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Try it again.

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Thank you. We're going to try this again.

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Good evening, Bensalem, and welcome to the Policy Committee meeting.

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I am your chair, Rachel Fingles, and we are here to discuss some of the latest and

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greatest on policy news.

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All right. So,

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announcements to the audience.

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Our meetings are videotaped and available on the district's website.

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There is public comment. There is no one here, so we're not going to have any

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public comment, at least not this time. And we're going to move on.

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We're actually going to skip ahead to Policy 707, Use of School Facilities.

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tabled this item last month. Mr. Allen was asking for a change to

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allow people to submit rental forms more than nine months in advance because our

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policy specifies that it should be not more than nine months in advance, but we

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recognize that there are occasions and events where decisions need to be made prior

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to that. So, we're

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going to open up the policy, but I also wanted

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Leanne Hart to comment on this because was this your-

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I don't have a specific comment up front, but I figured since it would end up back

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for business, I would just come and save the back-and-forth time.

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Fair enough. All right. So,

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the provision we were looking at specifically,

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Dr. Cohen, do you remember where in the policy it is?

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It's what I'm looking for, ma'am.

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Just looking myself.

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Yeah, I think so.

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Okay, thank you.

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It's under right Application Process.

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Mm-hmm.

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Second paragraph down, "Application should be made."

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Yes. So when we tabled this, we tabled it to come up with some new language.

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Were you able to do that this month?

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So I did not have an opportunity to talk to Mr.

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Steffy yet to see if there were some issues about extending the timeframe beyond

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the nine months. Remember there was some conversation about

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certain areas that they would rent, like athletics.

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Do they know how far out they're going to be able to provide the gym usage and that

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type of stuff? I know ICAP is one that rents a lot of stuff.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I think that that was part of the issue, but he was tied up with some other

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facility things, and I wasn't able to get that for him yet at this point.

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All right.

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But there is something else on here that we added that also does need board

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attention as well.

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And that, I believe, is in green.

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Yeah, I didn't see any colors yet.

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What I found was if I make a draft on it, so it's actually underlined.

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It's number 14 towards the bottom.

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If we put it in draft-

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... for some reason,

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it gives you one chance, and then for whatever reason, when I try to re-edit it

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again, it doesn't let me do it in green.

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It does this-- When I do my editing in the policy section, it's in green, but when

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I save it, it underlines it for some reason.

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Okay.

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So it's almost like you have to get everything right the first time.

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Almost a green underline, actually.

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Yeah. It just

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doesn't make it easy to see. And this has to do with some devices that were

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apparently set up-

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... in one of the buildings, and-

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Pyrotechnics

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... we don't want that to be done in it.

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All right. So

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of course, I

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obviously have no issue with this, with one exception that I can think of off the

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top of my head, but I think this language provides for it, which is that in the

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event that somebody wanted to use something like that, they would be able to seek

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authorization. And the only thing I can think of at the moment that

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could happen is, for example, a show, a play, or a musical where on occasion you're

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going to see some really basic pyrotechnics.

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And that's if there's money to do that, which usually there's not.

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But just as long as there's a provision.

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I don't think we usually go past fog machines.

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No, I don't think we do either, but you know what? The sky's the limit.

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We don't know. We don't know what we're doing this year with pyrotechnics, so

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probably nothing, but-

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I believe the last paragraph, it's underlined, makes mention that-

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... you can waive it with authorization from the superintendent, board approval-

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... that sort of thing, yeah.

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Okay. Well, I don't have a problem with this language.

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The only thing I do, I want to go back to the first issue, and my thought is

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really as follows, which is that we can put the language in to change,

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we can put in exception language for the nine-month rule with the understanding

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that it's going to be case by case, and just because you can apply doesn't mean

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you're going to get approved. I don't think it's necessary for us to

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cross every T and dot every I with what could potentially happen, because this

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isn't going to just allow people to do it. This language allows them to apply.

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That's it.

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And I think one of the questions I had, too, was is there a set amount of months

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you're looking? If it's not nine months, is it 12, a year? Is it a year and a half?

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I don't know how far out people look to book.

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Well, the problem comes in where we need to have something, I don't know if it has

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to be bold, can't be neon lights, whatever.

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Can't be pyrotechnics.

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Because, definitely not pyrotechnics, which should also include stuff on the

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grounds, on dry grass when you're lighting off your fireworks, but whole separate

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topic.

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I can understand the need to want to advertise and get everything ready,

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but they need to understand, just because they advertise and they have something

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ready, if the schools have something, and we can't accommodate them, you're going

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to have to scramble and find something.

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Maybe that needs to be a separate signature that they sign off on.

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If you're more than that far out or whatever, and yes, I acknowledge

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that this is a

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preliminary approval until we're closer and can-

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So here's what I think we-

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Because it would then keep them from another outside organization getting there

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first when the nine-month window opens.

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But if a school thing comes up, then it does.

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So I think what we should actually do is create a form that is special for rental

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requests that go outside of the typical nine months, and that form should have very

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specific language that says that you are assuming a risk

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by asking for this date if we give it to you, because at the end of the day,

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we can cancel your event for school purposes,

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period. And that's something that they will sign.

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When they apply, they will have to sign that.

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And if they don't sign it, they don't get the rental.

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I think that is the absolute protection. It's very explicit.

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And then when they sign it and they hand it in, they need to be given a copy.

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And so they're not guaranteed. I understand you're putting a $500 deposit down or

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whatever it is, but you're still not guaranteed to have the venue on that specific

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date-

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... because it's 16 months down the road-

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... or whatever it is.

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Right. Now, I think that being said, if you're going to put a deposit down and we

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have to cancel the event, you're going to get your deposit back.

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That's for those rentals that when we have to cancel on them, not the other way

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around.

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So I think regardless of what Mr. Steffy says, which is still in complete deference

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to him, we can put this together.

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I think that what we should do is attach the form to the policy,

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and it can be on the website. And if people come in to apply in person, it should

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be at the desk.

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And again, it's just for those that are looking to reserve something outside of the

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nine months.

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Well, there are certain things we know roughly when any shows are going to be held

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at the high school. We know roughly when Snyder's

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is renting out for their fall fling, or there's certain things we know.

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Right. Yeah, for sure. We know approximately when middle schools are going to have

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concerts at the high school, and when the high schools are going to run their

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concerts, and when the shows are. We know these things.

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So for the most part, it's probably not going to be an issue.

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I think it's good. I don't know that, Mr.

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Steffey, you'll have one issue or another if it doesn't make a difference, if you

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booked it 12 months out and then something else comes up and the school needs to

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call that person back and say, "Sorry, this came up." You signed the form.

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It was never a guarantee.

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Right.

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But I'll run it by him.

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Yeah, and I think that what should happen to be really thorough is that you make

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the copy, and you give it to the person when they apply, and you send an email with

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the form so that it exited a footprint for it.

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Yep. Yes, just right away.

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So we need some language, which I'm happy to work on.

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We're really talking about maybe a sentence in the policy, and then the form

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itself. Is that something you can put together?

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Do you want me to put something together?

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I'll work with Mr. Steffey-

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... on the form, because obviously they have one already, and maybe we can just

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tweak the one they have-

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... and then have two separate forms, A and B, or one and two, whatever.

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Absolutely.

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Six months or nine months beyond nine months.

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Yep, absolutely. Okay, great. And if we could have...

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Is there a group that is waiting for this to pass? That's what I'm not sure of.

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I haven't heard any of that.

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Okay. I'll ask Mr. Allen if he's aware of people who are waiting for this, because

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I'm not inclined to rush it through unless somebody is waiting on it.

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And what I'll say publicly is if there is somebody or a group that is looking to

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rent and they need that exception, this is a publicly available

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conversation. They can check our system, and they can feel free to come to

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us to see if this is something they can take advantage of.

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Even if we don't pass it yet, we can consider it.

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Super.

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So for next month, when it comes to this policy, we're going to see a form, and

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we're going to see the language in the policy. Those are the two goals.

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Does that cover everything for 707?

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The other thing on there was

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removing the prohibition on political group rentals.

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have you been to this meeting to discuss that yet?

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No.

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All right. Why don't you talk about that?

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So I've looked it up, and most of the districts in

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our area don't have any specific language that I can find that allows or

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prohibits it.

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There's no mention of political use or political groups or partisan

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activities, nothing like that. Except for,

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let me see, where is it?

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Central Bucks doesn't allow it, and Bristol Township specifically does allow it,

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which I thought was interesting. So

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category H is where it is for Bristol Township.

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And really most of their policy surrounding it is that attendance of any district

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students or employees is purely voluntary.

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So most of their outlining of it has less to do with the actual event and more to

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do with the impact on students and

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employees.

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Okay. So are you suggesting that we have language that--

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Do we take language out that says we can't, or do we put language in that says we

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can?

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I would think remove the

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part that prohibits it.

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Okay.

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I don't think we're going to end up with a lot of requests for this, and we can

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always still take it case by case. We don't approve everything that comes before

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us. But if there's

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a group that wants to use the auditorium for a meeting and they want to pay us.

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So they would be

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essentially class seven.

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Yeah.

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So the people who don't get any waivers, don't get any-

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Correct

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... exceptions.

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Now, Heather, I know you don't want to see a bunch of political activity on school

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grounds.

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If it's a monthly meeting or something like that, that's inside and

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it's classroom or auditorium,

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I don't really care.

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Which I think is where-

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If we're filling out the stadium, and there's signs on and all over, I don't want

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it to look like the school is supporting one way or the other.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I don't want to leave it too vague.

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Mm-hmm.

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Because then you get down to the chance of it not being consistent.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then that'll become its whole thing because we all know how it is here.

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Right.

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And I'm just trying to keep consistency when it comes to anything, especially-

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Okay

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... when it's politically charged. I'll go there, I'll say it, I don't care.

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No, that's fine. Yeah, that makes sense.

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No. So the way Bristol has it, the part that they have that addresses

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that, well, it

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does not talk about not being allowed to use the stadium or anything.

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So we could carve that out if we want.

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But it says, where is this? It does say, "All contending candidates or parties are

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given equal opportunity in the use of the facilities in accordance with the

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district's rules governing such use." Which basically says you can't pick one or

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the other. Then after that,

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and I guess this part is, too, it does clarify that it can't be during school

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hours,

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the attendance part.

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And then it just is very clear about which set of fees they are paying.

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Okay.

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The partisan political meetings, which is what is in there, if it's just a meeting,

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I honestly don't care.

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And from what I know of surrounding districts and things I've been to, that is the

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majority of the use cases is that that's a place where you can have a meeting

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because there's seating already available.

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Okay. Yeah.

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So I think that

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because things are so contentious here at times,

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it might make some sense to have some language that

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says that it's permissible,

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but under certain circumstances, like you mentioned, it can't be during school

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hours. There can be absolutely no political solicitation with any other person

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who is in the building for any other reason.

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And maybe something like with posted signage, because that would be different,

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because then you're making it part of district property, even if it's just for a

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small time.

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So maybe no signage.

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No posted signage.

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Yeah.

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And that if you leave anything, you risk not being given the rental again.

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And that way, everybody has an opportunity.

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It's an opportunity for us to bring in some money, but it's also

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this is not going to be a political game, and anybody who abuses it will lose the

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privilege and will ruin it for everybody.

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So I'm okay with that conceptually. We just need some language.

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So do you want to shoot me over the Bristol?

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Yeah. I used that new notes feature on the agendas and saved everything,

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so

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I'll just copy-paste. I don't think I can share those.

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That'd be cool.

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I'm just going to copy-paste into an email.

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Great. Awesome.

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So the proposal is to strike prohibited activities number eight.

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Make it more clear.

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Yeah.

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It wouldn't be prohibited, right?

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Right. So strike it with an outline, but instead of just-

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Just frozen

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... omitting it completely, we will define what is allowable.

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Yeah. So permissible use.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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Because

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we might as well take their money.

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We don't want any 1,500 people political rallies out on the-

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No

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... outside of the school.

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No, we're not doing a political rally.

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No.

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You've sent me a message, and I've sent them.

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The day after, somebody forgets a sign, it's like, "You need to go pick this up."

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Okay.

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After an election.

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Everybody's guilty of that. It's awful.

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And I was going to say, Addison sent me the picture, and then I texted you.

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Is there any thoughts of limiting

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locations that they can rent? Is it indoor usage only?

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Is it-

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Yeah

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... strictly indoor, no football stadium, no front lawn of Snyder, no-

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Yeah. I think that's-

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Technically, we're not, football stadium is a varsity field, and we shouldn't be

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renting it anyway, but...

331
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Yeah, no, indoor I think. Yeah.

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Does that cover?

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Mm-hmm.

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Okay.

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I'm going to go back in the hall.

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Okay. You're dismissed.

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There you go.

338
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All right. So let's hop to

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number four on the agenda, which is Policy 122, extracurricular activities.

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So this one is on. We have not spoken about this before, but

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when I was going through policies for something else, I came across extracurricular

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activities, and there was a line in it

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under authority, where the board shall maintain the program of extracurricular

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activities at no cost to participating students.

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And so there is a nominal fee-

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Mm-hmm

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... at this point that we're looking to charge for athletics and activity fees.

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And so I think the board needs to address that.

349
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I don't think we've collected, right?

350
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We haven't collected anything because we don't even have the ability to do it.

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Electronically we have, and I can't tell you how many families actually brought in

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cash yet.

353
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Okay.

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And some people were doing that.

355
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Okay. Well, thank you to those-

356
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Yeah. Some parents were on it.

357
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Okay.

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Me too. Now, I can't tell you if they were for the Chromebook or for the activity

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athletic fee, but there's been some collection. That's correct.

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We have policies that are rolling changes during the school year that affect.

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So I think we should

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change it so that it's-

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Current

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... yeah, so that it's current and so that it's consistent with the letter that

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went out. So I think minimal is an appropriate word to use,

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because it's not specific and-

367
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Yeah. I wasn't sure what the future would hold, right? Is it always 40?

368
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Does it go down to 25? I don't know. You know what I mean?

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And so we don't have to continue to go back and forth and change the policy.

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The pricing is in the student handbook, and that would get updated and changed

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every year, right? So.

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I think that we should, however, include language that

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does carve out what to do if you can't afford it.

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I think it would be a good idea to have that in there,

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so that people have access to that information,

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and that's actually for the student handbook, which may get a facelift

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anyway. That might be a good thing to include, to have those

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instructions in the handbook as well, so that it's not just in policy where no

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one's really looking, but is in something that is getting touched by more hands.

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Does that seem fair?

381
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Yes.

382
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Are you good with that, Heather? Okay.

383
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And as a side note, your green and red did show up just fine on this one.

384
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Because he got it right the first time.

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That's because I did it the first time.

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So now, if I go back and add the language about people unable to afford

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the fee and the methods to

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go around that, it

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might come up underlined.

390
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Yeah, I'll let you know.

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Okay.

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That was easy.

393
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Thank you.

394
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Yeah. Thank you.

395
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You're welcome.

396
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Oh, no. All right.

397
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So I want to get into the longer conversation, but I think we should possibly-- I

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know 220 and-

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So can we look at 220 and just talk about that one real quick?

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Yep.

401
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And so 220 has been on for quite a while.

402
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Mm-hmm.

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And that was back in February. The board chair at the time requested this to be put

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on because you'll remember around February is where high schools were having some

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walkouts-

406
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Yeah

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... and some protests, right? And so she wanted to take a look at student

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expression to see where we were and what our rules were.

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And so

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I don't know that there's anything that needs to be updated with the policy.

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It's a pretty recent policy. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Well, we reviewed it in '23.

412
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So it's pretty up-to-date. I'm not sure that we had any particular issues

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back in February or March.

414
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Well,

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I don't know that we had an issue per se, but I think that what was happening at

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the high school was that students wanted to be able to express how they felt about

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a particular issue, and Principal Parr gave them that opportunity,

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but within

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limitations, right? And that's like it says here, limitations on student

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expression. So, a lot of people don't know this, but just because you have rights

421
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granted to you by the Constitution does not mean that those rights apply similarly

422
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or exactly the same when you are in school.

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Because you do not have, anybody who's not listening, which is everybody, you

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don't have the same rights in school that you do outside of school.

425
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That's not how it works.

426
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So you can't just walk into school and say, "Well, I have a First Amendment right."

427
00:25:04,812 --> 00:25:09,072
Yes, you do, but it is limited. You don't have a right to privacy in school.

428
00:25:09,132 --> 00:25:11,742
That is also limited. Your locker is our locker.

429
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You put something silly in that locker, we have the right to go in and look for it.

430
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And so, Principal Parr tried to put some reasonable

431
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limitations to ensure that the kids were as safe as possible, and that was good for

432
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some and not good for others. And people have the right to, whether they should or

433
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shouldn't, whether they are allowed to or not allowed to.

434
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Some of the kids left the grounds, and that was dealt with.

435
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But so I don't want to say there wasn't an issue because there was an issue.

436
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The question is whether or not this policy gives them the right and gives

437
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folks like Principal Parr the opportunity to allow them to have that moment.

438
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So I think it does do that.

439
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Obviously, you can't walk around saying hateful things.

440
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We're not going to tolerate that, so don't bother.

441
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But if you have a viewpoint on something, you're allowed to express it.

442
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I

443
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think this is okay. If I'm missing something, someone should certainly say so and-

444
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I think the students that followed Mr.

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Parr's option of going to the gym and they had their moment, were okay.

446
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There was no negative disciplinary issues or anything with those kids.

447
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Correct.

448
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If you left the building and left campus, then they were treated like every other

449
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student who happens to leave campus and may cut school that particular day, right?

450
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Right.

451
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And obviously, there becomes safety concerns when kids start to do that, right?

452
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Right.

453
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And so when you're in the building, we can keep you much safer than when you're

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outside the building walking down Humeville Road unaccompanied.

455
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Right.

456
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Freedom doesn't mean free from consequences.

457
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Well put.

458
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Everybody has the ability to make a choice whether or not there are consequences,

459
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like you said. So yeah, and I think that it's just important that when applying

460
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this policy, and this is really for administrators more so than anybody else, that

461
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we are giving everybody equal access to these opportunities so long as those

462
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messages that they want to send are appropriate and

463
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not In

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conflict with safety and well-being of students.

465
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So, yeah, I don't have any specific changes, but I'm always happy to entertain them

466
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if people want to bring it up again.

467
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Let's see. Okay. Video surveillance.

468
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Can we just move 122 off-

469
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Yeah

470
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... for next month? We'll get to-

471
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I think that's fine

472
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... the rest.

473
00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:55,560
Sorry, yeah.

474
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That's okay.

475
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Are you good with that, Adam?

476
00:27:57,150 --> 00:27:57,480
Thank you.

477
00:27:57,540 --> 00:27:57,780
Okay.

478
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Yeah, we don't have to do anything to it.

479
00:28:00,601 --> 00:28:04,650
Okay, great. So 709, video surveillance.

480
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Dr. Velasquez asked if

481
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we could have some

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language.

483
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See-

484
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So, yeah. Page four?

485
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That's page five.

486
00:28:48,090 --> 00:28:49,950
It should be number 10, but it came out as a...

487
00:28:52,801 --> 00:28:55,470
Yes, and I know there's a 12, too, which isn't there either.

488
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I like the language in 11 that was added.

489
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,310
Actually, I think it's technically supposed to be 10.

490
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,270
That is correct.

491
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:03,630
Yeah.

492
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,140
It is 10.

493
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It's just I know what happens when-

494
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We're just trying to-

495
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No, I-

496
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... provide for viewing.

497
00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:12,780
No, I like the language. It's good.

498
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That it's a case by case, and that nobody has the right to just come in and say,

499
00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:21,450
"Show me what happened in room 309."

500
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:28,051
Okay. And then parents/guardians or students directly involved in a particular

501
00:29:28,140 --> 00:29:32,640
disciplinary action, security, or life/safety incident.

502
00:29:34,590 --> 00:29:38,130
Yeah, and it limits the viewership. I think that makes sense.

503
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:39,390
Okay.

504
00:29:40,260 --> 00:29:43,260
So I would move this to a first read.

505
00:29:44,101 --> 00:29:44,821
I'm fine with that.

506
00:29:44,940 --> 00:29:45,301
Okay.

507
00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:46,830
Thank you.

508
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,611
Yeah. Thank you.

509
00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:54,210
I want to have a longer conversation about 4E,

510
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,190
so should we skip to 5A?

511
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,660
Because that's not going to be a super long conversation.

512
00:30:03,991 --> 00:30:05,220
Oh, sure. Absolutely.

513
00:30:05,340 --> 00:30:05,880
Yeah.

514
00:30:05,910 --> 00:30:06,150
Yep.

515
00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:08,700
What gave rise to this?

516
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:11,551
So, one second.

517
00:30:12,660 --> 00:30:13,020
Money.

518
00:30:13,470 --> 00:30:13,710
Okay.

519
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:19,380
So you might remember, last school year, I think Mrs.

520
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,160
Fernandez brought up advertising in school buses,

521
00:30:25,530 --> 00:30:28,440
probably at a business affairs or something, if I'm not mistaken.

522
00:30:28,530 --> 00:30:33,450
And so I was asked to see other districts that had

523
00:30:34,890 --> 00:30:39,150
policies for advertising in buses, and so it went to the solicitor and they did

524
00:30:39,210 --> 00:30:42,210
some policy work on it, and this is the draft.

525
00:30:42,810 --> 00:30:46,200
It is legal, we can advertise within a school bus.

526
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:48,361
Okay.

527
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:58,380
So

528
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,420
do we have an advertising committee?

529
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:09,750
We do not. So that's part of if we were going to do something like this, right?

530
00:31:09,870 --> 00:31:10,111
Mm-hmm.

531
00:31:10,170 --> 00:31:13,980
It's bigger than just the policy. Is there going to be a committee?

532
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,301
What committee's going to handle it?

533
00:31:15,390 --> 00:31:20,910
Should that be business affairs committee as opposed to advertising committee?

534
00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:23,040
How does that process also work?

535
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:26,700
I think that should fall under business because, A, they're collecting the money

536
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,890
for it, and B, that's where the buses report.

537
00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:32,130
Yeah, that makes sense. So-

538
00:31:34,890 --> 00:31:39,540
Yeah. So I would say we should strike advertising and put in business,

539
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,370
and

540
00:31:44,821 --> 00:31:47,400
all advertising fee shall be subject.

541
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,290
So it doesn't actually have fees in here, so how do we

542
00:31:53,460 --> 00:31:55,020
determine the fees?

543
00:31:56,551 --> 00:31:59,400
Because it says the superintendent can determine the fees, but how do we-

544
00:31:59,821 --> 00:32:00,720
All good questions.

545
00:32:00,810 --> 00:32:01,200
Yeah.

546
00:32:01,290 --> 00:32:02,130
All great questions.

547
00:32:02,340 --> 00:32:06,180
I would suggest we do something similar to my beloved policy-

548
00:32:06,210 --> 00:32:07,020
That's what I was going to say

549
00:32:07,051 --> 00:32:10,500
... 707. It's been the bane of my existence for 19 years now.

550
00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:16,170
I'm allowed to do that. So something similar to that, so that when it needs to be

551
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:19,170
updated, you're not updating the whole policy.

552
00:32:19,650 --> 00:32:24,030
But as far as the advertising committee, would it make more sense to just have it

553
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,500
be the business committee? Like, don't even have a separate-

554
00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:29,340
Yeah

555
00:32:29,370 --> 00:32:30,000
... committee?

556
00:32:30,060 --> 00:32:30,480
Yes.

557
00:32:30,540 --> 00:32:30,720
Yep.

558
00:32:30,810 --> 00:32:31,260
I agree.

559
00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:37,321
And I

560
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:44,940
think we could do good things for the district.

561
00:32:45,810 --> 00:32:46,620
For example,

562
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,200
if we didn't have people that were necessarily using it for advertising space,

563
00:32:53,611 --> 00:32:58,111
we could be putting things in there, like reminders to kids about certain upcoming

564
00:32:58,170 --> 00:33:03,361
events or something like that. I don't want to spend a ton of money on this, but

565
00:33:04,801 --> 00:33:06,900
it may, on occasion, be a useful idea.

566
00:33:11,071 --> 00:33:14,790
Business is also going to have to figure out how much is it going to cost to put

567
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,480
the things up in the bus to hold the signage.

568
00:33:19,321 --> 00:33:24,900
Who's going to maintain the signage when you might have a child that

569
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,900
wants to affect it? Are we going to have to replace it at our

570
00:33:30,991 --> 00:33:33,870
cost? I'm not trying to be a downer, I'm just-

571
00:33:34,530 --> 00:33:34,680
Yeah

572
00:33:35,310 --> 00:33:39,120
... questions before we say, "Yes, let's take your money," and realize it's costing

573
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:39,330
us.

574
00:33:40,051 --> 00:33:40,590
Frankly,

575
00:33:42,660 --> 00:33:47,040
this is really a business policy that they have to piece together.

576
00:33:48,090 --> 00:33:53,130
We're here to make sure it makes sense and that it doesn't conflict with other

577
00:33:53,220 --> 00:33:53,910
policies.

578
00:33:55,049 --> 00:33:59,250
The first thing I was directed was, before you start talking about even attempting

579
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,480
to advertise in your bus, you need a policy on advertising in the bus because you

580
00:34:03,510 --> 00:34:07,351
never know who's going to want to jump on that and put up advertisements in your

581
00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:08,520
school buses with kids.

582
00:34:08,910 --> 00:34:08,971
Right.

583
00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:14,760
And you don't have a way to limit who's going to do that advertising, right?

584
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:21,361
Yeah. So I would say it could be as simple as SAT companies

585
00:34:22,620 --> 00:34:25,380
putting up an ad or something like that. Yeah, tutoring, something like that.

586
00:34:26,071 --> 00:34:30,660
So I would say that as a whole, I don't have a problem with the concept, but I

587
00:34:30,721 --> 00:34:34,200
think that only the business committee can evaluate whether or not this is a

588
00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:38,101
worthwhile endeavor. And I don't want them to go down a rabbit hole if they

589
00:34:38,130 --> 00:34:40,980
determine that the costs are going to outweigh the benefits.

590
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:42,900
Makes sense.

591
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:46,140
So I would kick it to them. Sorry, guys. Sorry, Leanne.

592
00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:47,760
And

593
00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:52,321
see what they think. It's just going to require some research.

594
00:34:53,971 --> 00:34:59,310
And on my copy, on every single page, I have this little thing covering up some

595
00:34:59,340 --> 00:35:02,520
words that says, "Policy saved. Content-"

596
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:04,500
I know, right? Okay.

597
00:35:04,530 --> 00:35:06,360
Yes. It's not your computer. It's on there.

598
00:35:07,410 --> 00:35:07,560
Yeah.

599
00:35:10,351 --> 00:35:10,920
Awesome. All right.

600
00:35:11,340 --> 00:35:14,280
So we'll pass it to, I'll let Mr. Sapp know, and we'll-

601
00:35:14,491 --> 00:35:14,640
Yeah

602
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,130
... pass it to business affairs and they can start taking a look at it-

603
00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:17,310
Yeah

604
00:35:17,340 --> 00:35:19,140
... and see how they want to roll it out.

605
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,880
Yeah, we don't even need to table it or anything.

606
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:26,160
I think we just take it off, and then if they want to pursue it,

607
00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:30,450
we just have to make sure the language is okay. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.

608
00:35:31,471 --> 00:35:34,050
All right. Yeah, thank you. All right, so-

609
00:35:34,110 --> 00:35:37,320
Might as well do a draft administrative regulations while they're at it, while

610
00:35:37,351 --> 00:35:39,930
they're doing the whole thing because you know there's going to be questions.

611
00:35:40,290 --> 00:35:40,620
Oh, yeah.

612
00:35:41,580 --> 00:35:42,210
Do it all.

613
00:35:43,471 --> 00:35:48,810
All right. So this is one that I've been itching to discuss

614
00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:54,840
for a while now. So, I appreciate all the attachments, first of all, and I

615
00:35:57,540 --> 00:36:01,620
like that you pulled the policies that are affected by these concepts.

616
00:36:01,770 --> 00:36:04,320
And just for the public, the

617
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,500
reason we are talking about this is because we want to make sure that our students,

618
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:16,650
our staff, our community knows that this is This is not the place to

619
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:18,721
come to spread your hateful messages.

620
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,320
If you have something hateful to say, do not say it on our grounds.

621
00:36:22,770 --> 00:36:27,991
Everybody has the right to a free, appropriate, safe, public education,

622
00:36:28,890 --> 00:36:34,170
and nobody should feel like coming to school is a place they can't feel free to be

623
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:36,420
who they are, no matter what that means.

624
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:43,140
So, if you go into policy 103, I was looking at some of the

625
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,130
additions, and I really appreciated a lot of them.

626
00:36:47,310 --> 00:36:52,050
I liked the bit on the top of the second page, "This district prohibits hate

627
00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:57,900
speech, bias-motivated conduct, and discriminatory harassment directed

628
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,250
toward an individual or group based on actual or perceived race, color, religion,

629
00:37:02,430 --> 00:37:06,960
ancestry, national origin, ethnicity, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity,

630
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:09,930
disability, or any other protected characteristic.

631
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,430
Such conduct is inconsistent with the district's commitment to providing a safe,

632
00:37:14,491 --> 00:37:17,820
respectful, and inclusive learning environment and may result in disciplinary

633
00:37:17,940 --> 00:37:18,390
action."

634
00:37:19,741 --> 00:37:23,971
So, I love that we have that language in there. I think it's really important.

635
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:30,601
I think that it sets the tone for what people can expect for their children in

636
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:34,110
these buildings and what staff can expect from each other,

637
00:37:36,030 --> 00:37:39,660
and no matter what level, so to speak, you're on.

638
00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:44,070
So I definitely like that language.

639
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,840
I think that was the only change to this policy, right?

640
00:37:49,290 --> 00:37:49,590
Yes.

641
00:37:49,980 --> 00:37:50,280
Okay.

642
00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:55,140
There is no specific PSBA policy on just hate speech.

643
00:37:55,620 --> 00:38:01,110
It's encompassed in, baked into other policies on discrimination or diversity.

644
00:38:01,620 --> 00:38:01,710
Right.

645
00:38:01,770 --> 00:38:03,390
There's stuff in personal computing.

646
00:38:03,870 --> 00:38:06,840
So, the last, I'm not trying to rush you through the rest of the policies.

647
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:07,530
No, you're good.

648
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,280
The last potential change is regarding hate speech handbook.

649
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,120
That is a newer add that I put on there today, and it's

650
00:38:16,620 --> 00:38:18,930
clips that I added into the handbook.

651
00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:25,050
And I tried to capture similar language,

652
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,580
but putting it under specific policies.

653
00:38:29,851 --> 00:38:31,320
Okay. And,

654
00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:36,420
yeah, so I was looking at this earlier, and I like what's on page one,

655
00:38:37,980 --> 00:38:43,890
the electronic devices one. So this is just an overall question because

656
00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:49,110
I know this is an issue all the time, which is, if it's on an electronic device and

657
00:38:49,110 --> 00:38:50,340
it belongs to a student,

658
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,601
when is it grounds for

659
00:38:55,890 --> 00:38:59,880
the school to get involved? Because obviously they're not supposed to be on their

660
00:38:59,910 --> 00:39:02,940
phones during school, but let's say they go home, and they start posting about a

661
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,210
kid, and let's say it's a racist comment.

662
00:39:06,690 --> 00:39:10,650
Do we have the authority and ability to do something about that?

663
00:39:12,721 --> 00:39:18,300
So, we do. It depends how much of the disruption occurs

664
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,670
throughout the school day within the building, right?

665
00:39:23,221 --> 00:39:26,550
But there are limitations to what the school can do, right?

666
00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:26,610
Right.

667
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,839
So if middle school kids are going home, and they're on the phone, and they're

668
00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:34,860
inappropriately texting or putting stuff on Instagram or whatever they're using

669
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,910
today about each other,

670
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,040
does it ultimately spill over in the building the next day? Possibly, right?

671
00:39:41,101 --> 00:39:41,250
Mm-hmm.

672
00:39:42,930 --> 00:39:46,620
Some of those instances, depending on the level of it, is where we'll start to get

673
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,570
the SRO involved because the police obviously have different level of gaining

674
00:39:51,690 --> 00:39:54,570
access to students' devices than a principal does, right?

675
00:39:54,601 --> 00:39:54,960
Sure.

676
00:39:56,310 --> 00:40:00,601
All right, so basically, let's say Sally goes home.

677
00:40:00,660 --> 00:40:03,810
She sees something terrible about her on Instagram. She comes in.

678
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:05,491
She goes to the guidance counselor.

679
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,210
Is that considered a disruption in the school day?

680
00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:13,620
You might not be able to answer this question-

681
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,370
Great question

682
00:40:14,610 --> 00:40:17,910
... but I think, I'm just trying to get a feel for it.

683
00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:26,310
I don't know that it would be a substantial enough disruption to the school

684
00:40:26,370 --> 00:40:27,360
process, right?

685
00:40:28,650 --> 00:40:28,860
Mm-hmm.

686
00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:32,460
I think it would be an issue where the administrator would then need to get

687
00:40:32,491 --> 00:40:34,290
involved and see.

688
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:41,070
Obviously, if that student went to the counselor and was claiming that this other

689
00:40:41,130 --> 00:40:46,980
kiddo was harassing them or doing, they would probably then volunteer their device

690
00:40:47,070 --> 00:40:50,610
to show. I'm assuming this is a personal cell phone.

691
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:50,820
Sure.

692
00:40:50,910 --> 00:40:53,940
If it's on the Chromebook, that's a school device, then it's different.

693
00:40:54,030 --> 00:40:54,180
That's different.

694
00:40:54,180 --> 00:40:56,940
It's completely different, and we'll be able to pull whatever we need to pull,

695
00:40:57,060 --> 00:41:00,480
right? But we have had instances of those as well.

696
00:41:01,140 --> 00:41:01,410
And,

697
00:41:02,670 --> 00:41:08,491
depending on once that victim shares that information with our

698
00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:14,430
counselor or administrator, then they have access to the full thread, and then it

699
00:41:14,491 --> 00:41:18,480
becomes an issue depending on what kind of comments are being made or if there's

700
00:41:18,510 --> 00:41:21,930
threats, and then again, it could be SRO involvement as well.

701
00:41:22,770 --> 00:41:24,420
All right. So if I'm looking at-- Oh, go ahead.

702
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:31,440
237, you can see, so I missed putting in policy

703
00:41:31,620 --> 00:41:34,410
237, electronic device. It wasn't even in the handbook.

704
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:36,810
So that's why I have this on here.

705
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:36,991
Mm-hmm.

706
00:41:37,110 --> 00:41:40,500
Electronic devices. This policy was adopted to support an educational environment.

707
00:41:40,741 --> 00:41:46,170
So I put that piece in, but also the language underneath it as well,

708
00:41:47,460 --> 00:41:48,330
which would be new.

709
00:41:48,601 --> 00:41:48,810
Mm-hmm.

710
00:41:49,410 --> 00:41:53,430
And that, again, I tried to tie the hate speech piece, right?

711
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,120
I tried to kind of thread it through different policies throughout the course of

712
00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:58,380
the process here.

713
00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,640
All right. So I

714
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,260
have a question. If you go to page five, it has...

715
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:10,410
Wait, hold on. Yeah, page five. It has level two, it has level three major

716
00:42:10,471 --> 00:42:15,270
offenses, and they're both identified as major offenses.

717
00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:16,800
Is there a level one?

718
00:42:17,851 --> 00:42:19,080
There is a level one.

719
00:42:19,140 --> 00:42:19,410
Okay.

720
00:42:19,860 --> 00:42:24,780
But I did not list hate speech or bias-based harassment under level one.

721
00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:28,860
So what is level one compared to these? Is it less offensive?

722
00:42:29,221 --> 00:42:29,730
It is less.

723
00:42:29,851 --> 00:42:29,910
Okay.

724
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:32,040
Level one is a minor, not a major offense.

725
00:42:32,221 --> 00:42:32,640
Okay. All right.

726
00:42:33,930 --> 00:42:35,221
All right, so-

727
00:42:36,540 --> 00:42:41,399
There was some conversation in cabinet if I should put hate speech, bias-based

728
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:43,050
harassment in level one as well.

729
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,860
I just, I didn't do it yet. You can-

730
00:42:59,730 --> 00:43:05,520
Okay. Sure, okay. So, just because you don't have the microphone, the

731
00:43:05,550 --> 00:43:08,790
conversation we just had was that hate speech

732
00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:13,440
and bias-based harassment is not appropriate for level one because it's more

733
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:17,310
serious than take the gum out of your mouth or take your hat off.

734
00:43:19,471 --> 00:43:25,320
So basically, by putting it in level two and level three, we're saying that

735
00:43:25,380 --> 00:43:28,260
we're not treating this like you don't get a slap on the hand.

736
00:43:28,741 --> 00:43:30,900
There is not a slap on the hand situation.

737
00:43:32,820 --> 00:43:38,491
And that all of the consequences listed under levels two and three, they

738
00:43:38,580 --> 00:43:44,221
start with as little as detention and go up from there to Saturday

739
00:43:44,310 --> 00:43:49,620
school, in-school suspension, restitution/restoration, loss of privileges, police

740
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,280
referral.

741
00:43:54,150 --> 00:44:00,000
Is there any way, and maybe the answer is no, but is

742
00:44:00,030 --> 00:44:01,500
there any way to

743
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:08,040
basically clearly identify if you're found in violation of...

744
00:44:09,060 --> 00:44:13,351
What I don't want to do is say that some hate speech is not as bad as others.

745
00:44:13,770 --> 00:44:17,580
Obviously, there's always going to be some merit to some insults are worse than

746
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,360
others, but I don't want anybody thinking that...

747
00:44:23,370 --> 00:44:28,770
I think that the kids and the staff, and no one is excluded from this,

748
00:44:29,550 --> 00:44:35,310
need to understand that this is bad behavior that

749
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,440
will be punished. We would love to have everything be a learning experience, and

750
00:44:40,471 --> 00:44:46,410
hopefully it will be, but there can't be, again, like it was with my

751
00:44:46,471 --> 00:44:52,020
daughter, "Well, we had him write an apology letter, and he's really sorry." Oh, is

752
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,741
he? Is he sorry he got caught? What are the consequences?

753
00:44:58,260 --> 00:45:01,260
So I don't know if there's more teeth we can add to this.

754
00:45:01,471 --> 00:45:05,700
I'm not necessarily suggesting that we need to. I just don't know.

755
00:45:05,790 --> 00:45:10,320
I know there's a topic under this that you mentioned, or I think it says something

756
00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:12,630
about comparing it to the surrounding districts.

757
00:45:12,690 --> 00:45:15,420
Did you have an opportunity to see what other folks are doing?

758
00:45:15,690 --> 00:45:16,741
I did, and

759
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,340
they're using the existing policies.

760
00:45:21,090 --> 00:45:26,310
I think there's some concern to put too detailed in-

761
00:45:26,460 --> 00:45:26,670
Mm-hmm

762
00:45:30,675 --> 00:45:35,415
Yeah. I think that's the concern is I don't know that we're going to be able to

763
00:45:35,445 --> 00:45:38,265
necessarily cover every possible-

764
00:45:39,045 --> 00:45:39,255
Sure

765
00:45:39,346 --> 00:45:44,355
... you know what I mean? That making a comment to this person equals X number of

766
00:45:44,445 --> 00:45:47,385
days suspended or something. You know what I mean?

767
00:45:47,476 --> 00:45:50,955
I think that was kind of the rub.

768
00:45:51,375 --> 00:45:54,435
So, I mean this without any disrespect-

769
00:45:54,616 --> 00:45:54,795
Oh, thank you

770
00:45:54,795 --> 00:45:57,915
... but can you tell me why? Because I just want to understand

771
00:45:59,985 --> 00:46:03,405
what the hesitation is in doing that.

772
00:46:03,825 --> 00:46:06,015
About anything.

773
00:46:07,545 --> 00:46:10,846
Yeah. Well, I think the language that talks under bullying, right?

774
00:46:11,025 --> 00:46:11,295
Mm-hmm.

775
00:46:12,855 --> 00:46:16,395
That includes slurs, derogatory language symbols.

776
00:46:17,175 --> 00:46:20,085
I feel like that kind of encompasses every possible-

777
00:46:21,525 --> 00:46:23,805
Oh, I'm sorry. I don't mean the kind of speech.

778
00:46:23,955 --> 00:46:29,325
I'm saying, if we determine that you have used hate speech in

779
00:46:29,385 --> 00:46:33,585
school and you have offended another student, or you have done something to harm

780
00:46:33,645 --> 00:46:35,355
them in that way,

781
00:46:36,675 --> 00:46:39,555
this is what happens to you. You get a three-day suspension.

782
00:46:40,185 --> 00:46:45,226
Is there some kind of problem with having what I guess would be considered a

783
00:46:45,255 --> 00:46:46,366
mandated punishment?

784
00:46:47,745 --> 00:46:47,925
Well,

785
00:46:50,895 --> 00:46:53,295
I'm not aware that we mandate any specific-

786
00:46:53,415 --> 00:46:53,476
Okay

787
00:46:53,476 --> 00:46:55,875
... discipline issue with any specific punishment.

788
00:46:55,995 --> 00:46:56,085
Okay.

789
00:46:56,116 --> 00:47:00,285
That's kind of why we have those broken down into level one, level two, and level

790
00:47:00,315 --> 00:47:05,025
three offense. And it gives some latitude to the building administration, right?

791
00:47:05,325 --> 00:47:11,175
So you can end up in a level two major offense, insubordination, defacing school

792
00:47:11,235 --> 00:47:15,315
property, and end up with a detention, a Saturday

793
00:47:16,875 --> 00:47:20,355
school. You could end up with one day out-of-school suspension or up to five days

794
00:47:20,415 --> 00:47:24,915
out-of-school suspension. It gives that latitude to the building admin.

795
00:47:25,935 --> 00:47:30,346
I'm not aware of anything that says it automatically equals X, short of

796
00:47:31,485 --> 00:47:34,035
violating board policy and end up in expulsion, like you get-

797
00:47:34,035 --> 00:47:34,755
Sure

798
00:47:34,755 --> 00:47:35,625
... a weapon or something.

799
00:47:35,655 --> 00:47:35,895
Sure.

800
00:47:35,955 --> 00:47:36,765
Right. Yeah.

801
00:47:36,825 --> 00:47:39,495
Okay. That's fine. I just wasn't sure.

802
00:47:40,275 --> 00:47:41,235
And I understand. You

803
00:47:45,075 --> 00:47:46,455
are concerned about

804
00:47:48,705 --> 00:47:53,535
something happening in one location and someone being disciplined in a certain way.

805
00:47:53,775 --> 00:47:54,015
Right.

806
00:47:54,075 --> 00:47:59,775
And a similar incident happening in another location being disciplined differently,

807
00:47:59,985 --> 00:48:00,226
right?

808
00:48:00,405 --> 00:48:00,645
Right.

809
00:48:00,705 --> 00:48:01,096
Sort of.

810
00:48:01,185 --> 00:48:06,855
Yes, and I guess the question is, can we provide or do we provide

811
00:48:07,065 --> 00:48:11,415
training or guidance as to how to assess

812
00:48:13,335 --> 00:48:17,175
each situation? Because look, it's not a secret that different buildings handle

813
00:48:17,235 --> 00:48:22,215
different things differently. And it's not because anyone's trying to be

814
00:48:22,275 --> 00:48:24,675
inconsistent. It's just the nature of the beast.

815
00:48:25,305 --> 00:48:30,765
So I don't want some schools to be easier on kids than others.

816
00:48:30,825 --> 00:48:32,775
I think everything should be handled the same.

817
00:48:32,895 --> 00:48:34,005
So do we have,

818
00:48:35,265 --> 00:48:37,815
and I know I'm asking you guys for a lot of work, but I just think this is really,

819
00:48:37,846 --> 00:48:40,815
really important. Do we have ARs that we can pull?

820
00:48:41,415 --> 00:48:43,665
Do we have trainings that we can give?

821
00:48:43,694 --> 00:48:49,395
And I know there's already not enough time for that, but what can we

822
00:48:49,485 --> 00:48:49,846
do

823
00:48:51,255 --> 00:48:57,135
to bring this issue up to our administrators and our staff to reinforce these

824
00:48:57,195 --> 00:49:02,715
concepts, to let them know that this is now in here, this is serious, this isn't

825
00:49:02,775 --> 00:49:05,385
something we say sorry for and move on from?

826
00:49:06,765 --> 00:49:08,445
So I guess that's really the question.

827
00:49:08,715 --> 00:49:13,035
When it comes to teeth, it's great to have it, but it doesn't mean anything if we

828
00:49:13,065 --> 00:49:14,355
don't do something about it.

829
00:49:14,415 --> 00:49:17,685
Right. We've given the administrators the ability to discipline it.

830
00:49:17,745 --> 00:49:21,885
The question is, do they exercise that ability, I guess, is what you're saying.

831
00:49:22,096 --> 00:49:22,305
Right.

832
00:49:22,785 --> 00:49:24,255
And is it consistent?

833
00:49:24,915 --> 00:49:28,785
Is it consistent, and are there certain violations that warrant

834
00:49:30,495 --> 00:49:36,435
escalating the issue up the chain in terms of not because everybody needs

835
00:49:36,465 --> 00:49:41,265
to be handheld, but in an effort to make things as consistent as possible.

836
00:49:41,625 --> 00:49:47,505
Does that make sense? If there's an issue and a principal says, "All right, well,

837
00:49:47,596 --> 00:49:52,545
I feel like I should handle it this way, but let me check with DO because I don't

838
00:49:52,575 --> 00:49:55,155
know how it's being handled across the board."

839
00:49:57,616 --> 00:49:59,955
Dr. Minnich, do you have any thoughts on that?

840
00:50:05,265 --> 00:50:10,575
I was scanning a neighboring district's student handbook expectations and

841
00:50:10,605 --> 00:50:13,305
responsibilities, and I haven't gotten all the way through it yet.

842
00:50:13,755 --> 00:50:19,155
But in my experience, and forgive me if this was discussed, the difference between

843
00:50:19,366 --> 00:50:24,555
a level two or an escalation to a level three could also be repetitive behavior.

844
00:50:24,735 --> 00:50:24,915
Mm-hmm.

845
00:50:25,245 --> 00:50:28,755
If you do something once, yeah, it's horrific. We're going to do this.

846
00:50:28,846 --> 00:50:29,025
Mm-hmm.

847
00:50:29,265 --> 00:50:33,226
But if it's more than once and you've been warned, then we would escalate it to a

848
00:50:33,285 --> 00:50:38,385
tier three. I think that's a matter of the admin team sitting down, either getting

849
00:50:38,415 --> 00:50:43,065
the training or making a determination that these are a set of guidelines we would

850
00:50:43,155 --> 00:50:46,485
use, but obviously understanding that there is still the case-by-case

851
00:50:46,545 --> 00:50:50,685
considerations to be made, whether or not the student has an IEP, like all the-

852
00:50:50,805 --> 00:50:51,346
Oh, of course

853
00:50:51,405 --> 00:50:55,575
... those kinds of things. But yeah, I'm looking through somebody's now, and they

854
00:50:55,605 --> 00:50:58,455
have it broken down. It's 72 pages

855
00:51:00,105 --> 00:51:00,105
.

856
00:51:01,275 --> 00:51:01,726
Is there a

857
00:51:04,755 --> 00:51:08,325
place where these things are reported to DO?

858
00:51:08,775 --> 00:51:13,635
Do you have statistics on what's going on in the schools with regard to these types

859
00:51:13,695 --> 00:51:15,976
of issues or any kind of disciplinary actions?

860
00:51:16,665 --> 00:51:19,545
Yeah, I would think all of it's reported in Sapphire, and it's coded.

861
00:51:20,085 --> 00:51:20,596
Okay.

862
00:51:21,016 --> 00:51:23,445
Whatever the PIMS code is for certain offenses.

863
00:51:24,195 --> 00:51:25,185
It's a safe school report.

864
00:51:25,245 --> 00:51:28,096
And the safe schools report. Yeah, so we could definitely pull all that

865
00:51:28,155 --> 00:51:28,755
information.

866
00:51:28,965 --> 00:51:33,465
Because I'd be curious as to how these issues are being handled on a

867
00:51:33,495 --> 00:51:37,755
school-to-school basis, and I'm wondering if it's worth-- I'm sure there's a lot of

868
00:51:37,785 --> 00:51:41,205
things worth the time, but time is precious.

869
00:51:41,745 --> 00:51:47,175
But I'm wondering if in an honest effort to curb some of the issues in our

870
00:51:47,235 --> 00:51:53,175
schools, is it worth spending some time, maybe every two to three months, looking

871
00:51:53,235 --> 00:51:56,715
at the data and saying, "All right, how many incidents fall under this category,

872
00:51:56,744 --> 00:52:01,334
and how were they handled?" Because there might be a way to, instead of looking at

873
00:52:01,576 --> 00:52:06,465
a year and then going back and trying to recalibrate 10 months of data, maybe it

874
00:52:06,495 --> 00:52:09,856
makes sense to look at two to three months of data and then say, "All right, how

875
00:52:09,885 --> 00:52:15,135
are we doing with these issues, and how were they handled, and do we need to

876
00:52:15,195 --> 00:52:18,255
address how they're being handled because they're not being handled the same way?"

877
00:52:21,735 --> 00:52:23,085
I just think we've

878
00:52:24,346 --> 00:52:29,085
had so many issues, whether it's personal or you've heard about them, but everybody

879
00:52:29,145 --> 00:52:35,085
seems to have a story about behaviors that are based in hate speech, and there

880
00:52:35,145 --> 00:52:37,935
are kids who don't want to come to school because of it.

881
00:52:38,025 --> 00:52:43,785
And it's our job to make those kids feel like they can come to school

882
00:52:43,905 --> 00:52:49,455
not only to learn and to be social, but to feel comfortable and safe, and then to

883
00:52:49,516 --> 00:52:54,076
feel safe enough to tell someone, because that's always the hardest part, is to

884
00:52:54,195 --> 00:52:58,545
actually say it without fear of retribution or retaliation from their bullies.

885
00:52:59,445 --> 00:53:00,735
So, I

886
00:53:02,955 --> 00:53:05,356
think this is one of the most important things we can do for kids other than

887
00:53:05,745 --> 00:53:09,495
educate them academically is educate them socially and

888
00:53:10,995 --> 00:53:12,826
hold them to a standard that we

889
00:53:14,235 --> 00:53:15,795
would like to see in our community.

890
00:53:17,955 --> 00:53:22,576
So I don't know exactly what my ask is, but I do appreciate the additional

891
00:53:22,635 --> 00:53:26,596
language. If we wanted to integrate that into the student handbook, I know we

892
00:53:26,655 --> 00:53:31,905
have released it for the year, but can we make additions?

893
00:53:32,775 --> 00:53:36,076
We can revise it. We really don't print paper copies anymore.

894
00:53:36,195 --> 00:53:36,375
Sure.

895
00:53:36,435 --> 00:53:40,035
And in the handbook, we're able to revise it whenever we need to.

896
00:53:40,125 --> 00:53:44,055
So really, it's almost like this ongoing living document, to be honest.

897
00:53:44,145 --> 00:53:49,785
Okay. And which I love. Now, as a parent of a middle schooler and a high schooler,

898
00:53:50,205 --> 00:53:51,735
I didn't receive,

899
00:53:54,766 --> 00:53:57,885
I don't think I did. I don't think I received anything about a student handbook.

900
00:53:58,005 --> 00:54:02,835
The kids may have, but I didn't. So is there a way

901
00:54:03,555 --> 00:54:08,415
to-- There used to be, you get the handbook, and then you sign it, you received it,

902
00:54:08,415 --> 00:54:11,055
and you read it. Do we have that still?

903
00:54:11,175 --> 00:54:13,635
No, we took that away this past year.

904
00:54:13,935 --> 00:54:14,266
Why?

905
00:54:14,596 --> 00:54:17,865
Yeah. I think Dr. Velasquez felt that the buildings,

906
00:54:21,285 --> 00:54:24,915
they had to rip the page out, if I'm not mistaken, or sign something, and it

907
00:54:24,945 --> 00:54:25,335
became-

908
00:54:25,755 --> 00:54:25,875
So-

909
00:54:25,905 --> 00:54:27,135
... answered and unreturned

910
00:54:27,135 --> 00:54:28,545
... in tech times to come-

911
00:54:28,935 --> 00:54:29,025
Mm-hmm

912
00:54:29,055 --> 00:54:35,025
... what we're working on in our SEP is a way for parents to acknowledge,

913
00:54:35,145 --> 00:54:37,215
to have it linked in there electronically.

914
00:54:37,726 --> 00:54:41,025
They review it, and by clicking this button, I agree that I have read it.

915
00:54:41,085 --> 00:54:42,915
So that is coming. We're building that.

916
00:54:43,125 --> 00:54:43,125
Okay.

917
00:54:43,155 --> 00:54:46,965
Coming. So that may be why the paper, we're trying to address it.

918
00:54:47,055 --> 00:54:48,826
Great. That's fine. All right, so

919
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:52,959
Do you anticipate that this is something that we can achieve this year?

920
00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:57,009
I'm hopeful. We're doing a lot with-- It's all built into the whole rev track

921
00:54:57,069 --> 00:55:00,849
revamp of SEP. So I will double-check with my team, and I'll let you know.

922
00:55:02,589 --> 00:55:06,339
I think that the school board, and I don't want to speak for everybody, but I think

923
00:55:06,429 --> 00:55:12,009
I probably can speak for most people when I say that having a specific announcement

924
00:55:12,099 --> 00:55:16,629
letter or rollout of these changes in particular would be great.

925
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:24,280
Maybe it's a letter from the superintendent saying that, "We have

926
00:55:24,369 --> 00:55:27,759
updated the student handbook, we have updated our policies.

927
00:55:28,269 --> 00:55:31,629
Here's where you can view them," with some hyperlinks.

928
00:55:32,379 --> 00:55:37,718
"If you have any questions, reach out to the board, reach out to the

929
00:55:37,778 --> 00:55:38,679
administration."

930
00:55:43,150 --> 00:55:45,190
I don't want this to be a quiet

931
00:55:46,629 --> 00:55:52,509
change. I want people to know that we do hear them when they say

932
00:55:52,569 --> 00:55:53,319
it's a problem.

933
00:55:54,879 --> 00:56:00,519
And this was not your fault at all, but I certainly was not heard. I was mollified.

934
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:04,539
So I don't want people to feel that way.

935
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:07,780
Is that something you think is reasonable, Heather?

936
00:56:13,780 --> 00:56:16,959
Maybe not within the next few weeks.

937
00:56:17,049 --> 00:56:19,599
No, no, I'm not saying-- No, I'm not suggesting that.

938
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:24,309
I just want anybody who might actually watch to understand that this

939
00:56:25,989 --> 00:56:28,869
will take some time to put together. That's all.

940
00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:33,309
Something important like this is worth doing slowly, methodically, and

941
00:56:33,369 --> 00:56:39,309
thoughtfully, and getting it as right as we can, and then being big enough

942
00:56:39,369 --> 00:56:41,530
to acknowledge when it can be improved upon.

943
00:56:41,589 --> 00:56:45,429
And I don't think there's anything wrong with making changes as necessary or as

944
00:56:45,759 --> 00:56:48,219
issues come up. I think that's fine. That's why we're here.

945
00:56:48,339 --> 00:56:51,280
All law is living, breathing, and changing.

946
00:56:52,209 --> 00:56:55,900
Unless you're a strict constructionist, but that's another story.

947
00:56:57,759 --> 00:57:02,949
So what I would actually love to see is for the resolution,

948
00:57:04,449 --> 00:57:08,410
we don't need to update it just yet, but once you find that you're coming to a

949
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:14,259
point where we're going to send that letter out, that

950
00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:19,089
is when I would want to see this resolution go up for vote on the board.

951
00:57:19,209 --> 00:57:24,039
Because the resolution can include some of the language we have here, but what I'd

952
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:26,440
like it to say is, "This is how we feel.

953
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:30,519
To that end, this is what we're doing differently, and this is what you need to be

954
00:57:30,579 --> 00:57:36,339
aware of." So, I don't know that we need to change the language right now, but that

955
00:57:36,429 --> 00:57:38,440
is, I think, how I see this rolling out.

956
00:57:39,609 --> 00:57:42,489
Will you take a look at the existing resolution and tweak, kind of-

957
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:43,780
Yeah. Absolutely.

958
00:57:44,019 --> 00:57:44,379
Perfect.

959
00:57:45,459 --> 00:57:50,619
So what I would say is, for the policies, I think we can start

960
00:57:51,579 --> 00:57:53,559
putting them on the agenda for reads.

961
00:57:59,289 --> 00:58:01,209
Actually, before we do that-

962
00:58:01,329 --> 00:58:01,690
Yeah

963
00:58:01,690 --> 00:58:07,119
... can you do me a favor, and after this meeting or this week,

964
00:58:07,809 --> 00:58:11,859
can you send these policies out to the board for review?

965
00:58:12,429 --> 00:58:15,190
I can, but not every one has an update to it.

966
00:58:15,219 --> 00:58:18,219
But I can send them all, or do you want me to only do the ones that have updates?

967
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,250
You can send all the policies that fall under this

968
00:58:22,569 --> 00:58:22,869
topic.

969
00:58:22,869 --> 00:58:23,289
Topic.

970
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:26,199
And I think you said there's one other that needs to be included, right?

971
00:58:26,709 --> 00:58:28,599
Did you say 237 or something like that?

972
00:58:28,780 --> 00:58:29,500
Uh...

973
00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:34,780
It might be easier to ask them to log into the personal agenda

974
00:58:36,009 --> 00:58:36,729
instead of-

975
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:38,319
Emailing them

976
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:38,859
... the board agenda.

977
00:58:39,759 --> 00:58:41,379
Yeah. Log into this instead.

978
00:58:41,709 --> 00:58:42,910
Yeah. Whatever works.

979
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:43,449
Yep.

980
00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:48,190
Yeah, but if you email them and tell them, maybe just put the hyperlink in there

981
00:58:48,250 --> 00:58:51,219
for the meeting or just say, "The meeting that occurred on so-and-so date.

982
00:58:52,569 --> 00:58:55,239
We're looking at 4E, take a look." Because

983
00:58:59,229 --> 00:59:04,150
people care about it, so they need to just be reminded to take a second.

984
00:59:05,799 --> 00:59:05,799
Yeah.

985
00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:10,690
And you're good with the language in 103, policy for discrimination,

986
00:59:10,750 --> 00:59:13,239
that was in green at the top of the page there?

987
00:59:13,299 --> 00:59:14,769
Yeah, I like that language.

988
00:59:15,250 --> 00:59:15,250
Yeah.

989
00:59:15,309 --> 00:59:19,660
I'm sure keener minds will have other ideas as well.

990
00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:24,219
I'm really open to anything anybody wants to suggest, but I

991
00:59:25,539 --> 00:59:30,280
just like that this is specific. You can't do this.

992
00:59:31,660 --> 00:59:33,250
And I really appreciate you working on it.

993
00:59:33,639 --> 00:59:34,329
Oh, thank you.

994
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,559
All right. Is there anything else to address tonight?

995
00:59:41,679 --> 00:59:43,839
I know that the agenda doesn't say so.

996
00:59:43,959 --> 00:59:48,549
I think we do need to keep working on the charter policy.

997
00:59:50,139 --> 00:59:53,139
I know that's not on the agenda, but that is something we have discussed.

998
00:59:53,229 --> 00:59:56,619
I got some notes from Karen on that.

999
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:58,569
So

1000
00:59:59,799 --> 01:00:04,419
that's not necessarily due at any point soon, right? There's no due date for that.

1001
01:00:04,479 --> 01:00:05,019
It is not.

1002
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:06,009
Okay. And when is-

1003
01:00:06,099 --> 01:00:06,609
Progressing.

1004
01:00:06,789 --> 01:00:09,609
And the charter renewal, we have some time for that.

1005
01:00:10,509 --> 01:00:11,019
Yes, ma'am.

1006
01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:13,569
Okay. All right. So then let's just...

1007
01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:17,949
Yeah, that came up because PSBA made some updates to the charter.

1008
01:00:17,979 --> 01:00:18,099
Right.

1009
01:00:18,429 --> 01:00:20,530
I believe it was the transportation piece, right?

1010
01:00:21,099 --> 01:00:24,669
You have to provide transportation, but it doesn't necessarily have to be the same

1011
01:00:24,729 --> 01:00:26,679
type of transportation that we provide.

1012
01:00:26,739 --> 01:00:26,889
Right.

1013
01:00:26,919 --> 01:00:31,299
So that's what prompted PSBA to push out a new policy, but since we have a charter

1014
01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:33,429
school in our district, it's pretty important.

1015
01:00:33,489 --> 01:00:36,039
If we're going to look at it, we might as well look at the whole thing.

1016
01:00:37,389 --> 01:00:39,639
Yeah, no objection from me. All right.

1017
01:00:41,019 --> 01:00:46,419
Well, we have public comment number two. I have no public comment cards.

1018
01:00:46,539 --> 01:00:52,269
I have no public to comment. So with that, I think we're going to adjourn the

1019
01:00:52,299 --> 01:00:54,129
meeting at 6:33 PM.

1020
01:00:55,389 --> 01:00:56,259
Thank you so much.