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No 4 p.m.

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Will everyone please silence your cellphones and will the clerk please read the Senator Byron Bear Open Public Meetings Act.

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In accordance with Section 5 of the Senator Byron Bear Open Public Meetings Act, adequate notice of this meeting has been provided in the annual notice schedule, which contained the time date and location of this meeting.

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Copies of which notices were forwarded to be official county newspapers to with the Harold news and the record and a copy of which was posted on the bulletin board in the Bergen County Justice Center

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and administration bill the one Bergen County Plaza Hackensack New Jersey and file with the office of the Bergen County Court.

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Thank you. Will the clerk please call the roll.

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Commissioner Marté.

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Commissioner Ortiz.

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Commissioner Sullivan.

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Vice Chairman Tonelli.

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Chair Pro Tempore Voss.

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Here.

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Commissioner is there.

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Chairwoman Emerson here evidence of a quorum is present will you please join me for

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the pledge of allegiance and remain standing for a moment of silence and we

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pause for a moment of silence, we want to honor the life and memory of Frank Kiernan, a truly

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remarkable man who dedicated his 95 years to family, community and service.

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Frank was a proud veteran, a founding member of the H&E Telephone Federal Credit Union, and

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paid in full life member and past commander of the Rochell Park American Legion post 170.

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He was a devoted husband to Carolyn for 63 years, a loving father, grandfather, and great

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grandfather, and a friend to all who knew him.

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Frank's legacy of kindness, integrity, and compassion continue to live on in the countless

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lives he touched. As at this time, let us join together in a moment of silence to reflect

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on his extraordinary life and the enduring example he leaves behind.

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Thank you.

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I now move that we open the commissioners meeting to the general public. Do I have a second?

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Second. All in favor.

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I oppose, say nay, unanimously approved.

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We will now have the hearing of the general public for those members of the public who would

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like to participate during the public comment.

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Please fill out a sheet to be recognized if you haven't done so.

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Would the Councillor please explain the process by which the public will be recognized?

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Thank you, Chairwoman.

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If you have filled out one of these sheets when you recognize, speak by the Chairwoman,

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Please come to the podium, state your name, spell your last name, you have three minutes to speak.

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I'll let you know when your time is up.

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And we think we know why a number of you are here, happy to have you all.

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Our county administrator, Tom Dutch, has a statement to read.

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Thank you very much. Madam Chairwoman, Vice Chairman Tenelli, commissioners, ladies and gentlemen of the public.

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I would like to take a few moments to clarify some of the misinformation that is currently circulating regarding the county's consideration of a possible telecommunications tower in the Ramapoe Valley County Reservation.

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First and most importantly, no decision has been made by the county executive, the Board of County Commissioners, or the administration to approve or construct any tower in the Ramapoe Reservation.

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As the park has seen a significant increase in visitation and trail use, we have long recognized

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that the lack of reliable cell services, one of the biggest public safety challenges we face there,

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especially when it comes to loss or injured hikers or emergency response personnel unable to reach dispatch.

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Earlier this year, the county was approached by a private entity interested in the possibility

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of constructing a telecommunications tower at no cost to county taxpayers.

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And we felt it was prudent to explore options that could improve coverage and reliability

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for visitors and for first responders.

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The only action that has been taken to date was the approval of a non-binding memorandum

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of understanding to allow for due diligence and for further evaluation.

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The adoption of that memorandum of understanding is not an endorsement or a statement

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of support for the project.

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It simply allows the county to evaluate the proposal and it was advertised and considered

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publicly in accordance with New Jersey's public private partnership law and the Open Public

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Meetings Act.

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To reiterate, the county has not approved any project, has not filed any permit applications,

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and has not initiated any applications with the state.

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The county is committed to preserving open space and maintaining the character of the Ramapow

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Reservation.

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It is also important to note that the Ramapow Valley County Reservation is green acres in

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combered open space, meaning that any change in use would require a diversion permit

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from the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection and the New Jersey State House Commission.

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The site also lies within the Highlands Preservation Area, which would require additional

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review and approvals from the New Jersey Highlands Council.

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These processes are extensive and include multiple public hearings, environmental reviews,

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and state-level approvals before any project could ever proceed.

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We welcome the public's input and we appreciate the passion that so many have for protecting

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the Ramaphone Mountains.

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Once again, I would like to emphasize there is no proposal before the Board of Commissioners

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tonight.

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There is no vote scheduled or pending and no decision has been made to advance any project.

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Finally, both county executive Jim Tedesco and this Board of County Commissioners remain firmly

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committed to protecting Bergen County's open space and natural resources.

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Since 2015, the Tedesco Administration and Board of Commissioners have preserved nearly

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200 additional acres and allocated more than $148 million to support $649 projects throughout

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the county that acquire, protect and maintain open space throughout

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urban county. That record speaks for itself. Madam Chairwoman, thank you so much for

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giving me the opportunity. Thank you Mr. Dutch. We will now go to our public

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statements. We are going to start with Mr. Parrish, who I think is probably not on this topic.

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So we're back again to the legal resource center topic that's been dragging around for a few years.

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Three years it seems like.

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Right now, there's a nice size rule on the ground floor and the back and the courthouse

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that has a wall of books and a few big tables and some chairs and then there's an

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unbutement who the unbutement was there before but now I guess instead of just

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a little office she has that open space to work in what we don't have anywhere

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which I think is minimally necessary to have any sort of actual resource

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or some workstations, some printers, some copiers, and a subscription or two to the professional databases that provide all the legal citation because what those books is supposed to do is for people who have been to school and trained how to use them.

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There's a whole science to use in this novel.

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Therefore, people to come and manually look up things.

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They're usually put into use when the electronic searches don't

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provide any helpful citations.

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So for a beginner or a lay person or a member of the public

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to just go there and, oh, here's your books, you know,

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have, you know, have Adam, is not accomplishing all that much.

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it's these electronic subscriptions,

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which are much more important.

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But I just wanted to mention one more thing,

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because progress rates weights for no one.

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So there's a new nonprofit website that just opened,

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called NIM, and NYA-Y-A-M.org, which is a AI lawyer.

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And it doesn't just do contracts.

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I was playing around with it and I had to do a complaint in the birdy county special civil

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court and it acts sort of like a lawyer, they ask you questions, they answer the questions,

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and here's your document. So that's incredibly important for, again, a non-professional

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a way person to be able to use a platform like this, but to make it be a full-featured

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experience. Workstations, copyers, printers, and subscription to the professional database.

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And that's what I'm here asking for. I don't think it's a major expenditure.

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Okay. Okay, we will take it under advisement. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Okay. Next up, Jeff Tittle.

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Thank you. I don't know. Some people may remember me, but I'm

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Jo and I've been a long time, but I just want to give a brief

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bit of history. So 40 years ago, I was involved with Sierra

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Club. Sorry, 40 years ago, I was involved with Sierra

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Club and other groups, saving a lot of the land and around

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Oppos. And also, you know, helping getting the counties open

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based trust on the place which was a big battle under the previous administrations.

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And so, you know, you've done a good job for your parks.

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This is not going to be one of them.

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And the reason I'm saying that is that we have something in New Jersey called the Public Trust Doctor.

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Land does not belong to the government.

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It belongs to the people.

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Your job is to hold it and trust for us.

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If you allow a private firm to build a 500 foot tower that's twice as tall as the old

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Sheridan Crossroads, and by the way, my wife was a burden county planner for many years in your

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shit.

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That is a desecration of a sacred area with a roundup pose, and of that open space, and on your

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commitment that you have as a county for preserving and protecting those lands.

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It's a wrong tower in the wrong place.

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There are alternatives.

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No one says you shouldn't look to do things for cell service.

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If this is not about cell service, the purpose of this tower is so that some

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crater up in Toronto, or Montreal, can get a microsecond quicker in a deal down on Wall Street

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or at NASDAQ.

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That's the main purpose.

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They're trying to build these towers up and down the coast, but here they're picking

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a spot in the middle of the Ramapo reservation up on a hill in the middle of an area that

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has historic sites nearby, both Indian and Native American and Revolutionary War.

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It's in the middle of one of the most precious areas that Bergen County and New Jersey has the Ramapole Mountains.

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And so what I'm here to say is I know you haven't taken any steps, but this is the first time

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the public has a chance to really address you and say why this doesn't belong.

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And what I'm saying to you is this is violates the Highlands Act, the violates open space,

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we're going to, the State House Commission, you're going to have to come up with other lands,

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And, you know, we're going to fight that because it's not appropriate.

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More importantly, we've got to work and find alternatives because there are three towers in that area within a mile-led site.

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You should not be trading the open-space suburban county to a Wall Street Trail.

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You should protect that land for now and for future generations, which has been your told.

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We do not take public land for private purpose.

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We need to hold it dearly for the public for now and for future generations because that was the charge when that land was bought.

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And that land was paid for by the county and by green acres and everyone else.

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So thank you, but please let this go away because this is not right.

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The save of micro-second on a stock trade for a bunch of speculators in Canada is not appropriate for burden county to support.

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Thank you.

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Next up, Jodi Gofredo.

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JODI is on paper, G-O-F-F-F-R-E-D-O, high-tracy, high-dermane, everybody else, well I want to thank

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Jermane and Tracy for paying attention to Oakland to the to the dump situation. It shows that

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you guys really care about the environment. Nobody else here responded and Mary unit respond and

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from Moa. Oh, you were there. You were there. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You were there.

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You were there. It's Tom. That wasn't there. And Tom, you're up for reelection. Yeah, I'm sorry.

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I have a full time job. Okay. Well, well, Jenny. Okay. Finish your thoughts. Mary, you were there.

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Turn me in. You were there. Tracy, you weren't there that day, but you were there. I just

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want to say that this can happen. And Tom, shame on you. I'm getting Democrats to change our

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okay, next up, Ellie Gruber,

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and if you could, if I could, if I could, if I could just say something, then we all were in contact with the mayor, maybe just because we weren't there in that specific day, there's not me, we're not in contact with the mayor.

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So just, just want to put that out there.

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Thank you.

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Okay, and if you guys could spell your name and list your town, we'd appreciate it.

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Thank you. So, yes, Ellie.

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Hey, Ellie Gruber, G-R-U-B, I'm a resident of Richmond, but I'm speaking tonight from

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the League of Women Voters of New Jersey who asked me to speak tonight.

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And I want to say, first of all, before I speak for the League, you have been wonderful.

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You will protect open space.

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Richard has been the benefactor of so much of each Tracy.

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I know from a long time ago.

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You've been wonderful and we appreciate everything you've done.

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I think we have an amazing county.

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We have amazing county parks.

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And I always brag about them when we're so crowded that you've done a great job.

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The league is not an environmental organization.

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We're a public policy organization.

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which carefully examines both sides of any proposal.

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As you've said, the Highlands is one of the most unique,

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natural areas in New Jersey.

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It's a respite for residents who live in crowded Bergen County.

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Ramaporeg area is spectacular.

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The area is important for migration.

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It's home to many native and protected species.

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But we're alarmed that you're even considering

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listening to a proposal, to allow a communications tower solely for the benefit, real benefit

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of private entities. I know it seems like a gift, but it's not a gift because it's going

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to be a burden on everybody. And it's not only the tower itself, but in order to construct the tower,

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a road has to cut through, and I don't think it's possible to do it, more of our protected areas.

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We urge you just to discard this proposal.

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I know you say you want to listen to more about it,

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but you have to listen to the public.

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The time to cut it off isn't the beginning

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when the proposal just makes no sense.

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There are other sites that can be considered,

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as Jeff said,

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we understand you want more service if you do,

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and I know this proposal will allow you to attach

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some self-service to that tower,

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But you could put it in your pot, you could put it in other places.

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I've hiked there a lot, and I've used myself on.

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So I don't know why they say there's not enough self-service.

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We have a few open spaces in Birken County.

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I want to thank you, and I hope, I really hope you see this is just a small amount of people

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who are going to be very, very opposed to this proposal.

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So I urge you to say thanks, but no thanks.

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And thank you again for taking care of Richard.

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Thank you, Ellen.

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Before we continue, I'm going to let listeners to Nellie speak.

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Yeah, I just want to address the previous speaker.

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So as a former elected or an elected, you should know better than do

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and drive buys up on the day is making accusations about elected officials.

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Almost everyone up here spent time in Oakland.

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I got a personal tour from the mayor because I was so concerned about it.

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So because I didn't do the tour with you or I didn't contact you,

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that's not good enough, I'm very disappointed in your reaction tonight.

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No, but you're talking about my colleagues.

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We all, a lot of us have jobs, and we do the best we can, and we're at everything we need to be at, just because it's not when you were there.

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I take a fence that, in fact, he came up here and accused us, this is not caring.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Next up, Timothy McKenna,

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so if you would just say your name and your town,

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Timothy McKenna, MCKE and NNA. I'm with the New York Nature's E-Trail Conference in

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Maua or headquarters is right on the edge of the RIMPO reservation. As the other speakers

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have said, we think this is a bad proposal. Sure, sure.

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As Jeff said at the beginning,

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And as Mr. Duch said, the tower would go in green acres, land, also in the area designated

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by the Highlands Council, both of which would suggest to us that it's a bad idea to put

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it there.

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In addition, the work involved putting the tower up, cutting the road through the forest,

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and we know this from experience, because we build most of the trails in North Jersey,

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and Southern New York and if you cut a big road through and then open up the canopy to the

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extent it's going to be needed when you build this tower you're going to do significant.

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It's going to take a long time before that area recovers and finally I understand we understand

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the need for good cell service and hiking areas but again this is not as we understand anything

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like the cell service tower.

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It's for front running trades.

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So anyway, thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. McKenna.

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Brielle Olshan.

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My name is Brielle Olshan, OLS-H-A-N.

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I'm a resident of Norwood.

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I'm a resident of Norwood.

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Mr. McKenna, you can move it up a little bit.

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You can move it up, you can move it up, you can move it up.

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Thanks.

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Do you need me to start again?

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Yes, you can, if you want.

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Got it.

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OK.

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My name is Brielle Olsen, OLS-H-A-N, I'm a resident of Norwood, and I'm also the director

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of Strategy and Operations at the New Jersey Highlands Coalition and chair of the Norred

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Environmental Commission.

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We live in a beautiful county and state, thank you for your part in protecting and expanding

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on the open space that is held in public trust.

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I'm here in opposition of to the McKay Brothers cell tower proposed for the Ramapoe County Reservation,

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which is an inappropriate use of the public lands for private interest.

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These private interests are very clearly using public good for their own profit,

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though it's still clearly just an MOU.

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This proposal should not move forward, and if it does, it will face opposition every step of the way.

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The Ramapoe reservation is a critical and beloved park that I know I, I tend almost every day when I went to Ramapoe College.

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So thank you very much for your time and consideration.

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Take care.

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Thank you for your

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time.

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Dr. Emil Divido.

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Good evening.

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My name is Emil Divido.

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First name is spelled E. M. as in Michael I. L. E.

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Divido like Tommy and Danny.

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Not related.

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I've been the Director of Science at New Jersey Conservation Foundation for 36 years.

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Our organization, some of you, if you've been around long enough, I don't know, you may

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remember when Dennis Miranda of our staff 30, some of my years ago helped Bergen County

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get its own space trust fund going, you know, helped with the public advocacy for that.

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And you've obviously done an incredible job.

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The parks are incredible.

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I hiked the entire site today.

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I hiked up and down from Camp Yoppa.

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I hiked the entire length of the Gantuin pipeline,

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from the yellow trail that comes up the mountain.

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And it's just really unfortunate

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that we even have to be here talking about this.

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This is not a public compelling public need.

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If you need cell service, there are many ways to get self service on top of that hill without having to build a 500 foot tower.

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I saw a flock of palm warblers migrating through.

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At night they would be getting killed by the guywires for a 500 foot tower.

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It's a many threatened endangered species up on the mountain state threatened endangered species.

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See one waterways, wetlands.

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It's just a completely wrong place.

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So we're here to start building the public record, it's good that you haven't done anything

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except perhaps, you know, have some sort of a memorandum that allows you to listen to them,

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the private entity, but it just needs to stop and I can guarantee you that this coalition

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of groups and people will just get bigger and bigger, building the public record along

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the way so that if somehow this manifests itself into applications and, you know, the applications

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would have to be signed by Bergen County, you're the landowner, the applications to

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the Green Actress Program for a diversion, the applications to the State House Commission,

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the applications to the Highlands Council, land use for freshwater wetlands and flood hazard

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areas and all those things. We don't want anybody to think that this application is by some

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private party because, you know, somebody's going to, you know, have some gain.

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This is, this is you and you should just stop and we're going to build a public record.

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We're going to be there every step of the way and if we have to will litigate, we litigate

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it against the pennies pipeline and we won, we litigated it against the port authority

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of New York and New Jersey and we won, recently, you know, there's been green acres,

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the versions and we won on those and we will win on this one too.

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So you might as well just stop and not waste everybody's time.

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Thank you very much.

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What do you think?

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My name is Eric Israel, and I'm from the town table,

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Mama, Eric E. R. I. C. I. S. R. A. E. L.

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Like the country, and Mama, M. A. H. W. H.

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I'm just here. I'm not used to speak for boards like this.

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I'm a resident of Malaw for 20 plus years, we live close to the Remable Mountains, and we enjoy it so much that we decided to stay where we live right now.

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I just learned about the tower, which I think is devastating.

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It's not free.

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I'm from the public sector, sorry, the private sector, and I know how business works.

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So, when I heard in the opening that this was something that a private company wanted to do for the community for free, I am suspicious.

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I'm also forensic accountant, so forgive me to be a little bit critical about this.

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But I just want to say that everything I heard so far, I can't say it better than that.

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It doesn't belong here. It will, it will, it will not lead to value for the community here.

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And I may be other options. And I want just to keep it, leave it like that. I think you get my message.

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I'm definitely opposing this whole cell tower. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next up, Betsy Longendarfer.

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Did I do okay? Thank you.

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I'm Betsy Longendorfer, L-O-N-G-E-N-D-O-R-F-R, from Northfail, but I've been a resident of Bergen County

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for 40 years, including 30 years in Ridgewood, so I'm an avid hiker and cyclist, and I often

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bring people from outside the area, including a recent visitor from Australia, and they're always

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in how many wonderful parks we have and that's one of the reasons that we

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continue to stay here even though we're retired. Why would we go anywhere else?

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It's just a great place to live. Also a retired engineer and when I look at

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problem solving one of the things that you do is an engineer is first you look at

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your available solutions that exist already and only if they don't work do you

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go and start to consider some more crazier outbound type solutions. So in this case, if

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cell services really the problem that we're trying to solve, and there are other solutions

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as these point it out. They have three other towers in the area, and I'm sure there's other

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areas near there that would be suitable to. If that's really the reason why aren't they looking

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at that first. This got to be some-

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Other reason why they're looking to do a 500 foot tower on post reservation. So that's my take on the solution. So please take care of us. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Next up, T is real.

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And you're related. Are you?

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Yes, we are abstain and wife.

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Yes, we are abstain and wife.

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Yes, we are abstain and wife.

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Okay.

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My name is Starnia.

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T, N, J, A, Israel, ISR, A, E, L.

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Also like the country.

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And believe in mama.

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There's so much I would like to say about this, I'm a vivid hiker, also every day I go up.

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This is a highly protected area, as you have mentioned, right?

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But regardless of that, we have a pipeline running through it. It has been recently widened.

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So, in spite of all these protections that are in place, this was possible to happen and why,

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because we were not standing up on the right time at the right time, and here we are for another

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project that needs to be in a preserved area, and it's in sync, it's totally in sync to do this,

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because it is foresight of our generation to leave a legacy for future generations with

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pristine forests, because they are the lungs of this world, of this state. There have been

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people in the past who have had a vision, they protected the palisades, they had beautiful

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presentations, and now look at what's on the stake right now in this country. We have to do everything

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we can to protect whatever we have left, because once we chop things, when we destroy things,

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It will not come back the same way it was, even the Earth that we stand on has microorganisms.

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All the trucks they go up there, bring all the organisms on the road, the birch trees are dying.

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It's terrible.

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We already used all the ash trees and every truck that goes up there brings germs, all kinds of microbes,

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and it's destroying the forest, and we have to do something we have to stop this.

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And I hope you're listening, I hope you can make a difference because

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what's your legacy for the future?

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Who is going to keep you responsible?

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Your grandchildren?

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Their children?

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Their grandchildren?

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How long will this go on?

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Right?

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Because there's a limit to what we can do in a forest before it breaks down to ashes.

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And we have to do everything in our power to protect it.

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And I have grandchildren, and I want them to see the ramapa reservation in all its grandeur and beauty, because we have the most unbelievable animals there, just this morning I saw a big turtle, right next to the river, right, wetlands, aquaver, highlands, and here we are with a pipeline and now maybe this stupid cell tower that will not serve us at all.

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It's because someone wants to make even more money than they already have and where is the limit to greed?

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Because no, there's it's not free and we are going to pay for it and all the animals the ramipo

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Lenape's it's their territory to we all it to future generations and everyone else to protect what we have and

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Thank you for

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your time.

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William Sistee.

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Good evening.

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William Sistee, S-I-S-T-I.

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Oakland, New Jersey.

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First, I'd like to thank the gentleman for the recap

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of what is happening prior to all this,

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so we kind of know where we stand.

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I'm just a citizen.

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I'm not part of any environmental group,

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but I saw this tracking on social media.

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I look closer to the mountains up there in Oakland.

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I think it's the Highland Territory, you focus on through all this work to get it designated

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such.

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I think it's remain as it is, you know, if you live in the Highlands area, it's hard

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to build a garage if you're in West Millford, never mind, a radio tower in Oakland,

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I did a Google map thing, there's enough stuff going up there, ready, there's a pumping,

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there's some sort of pumping charge station for a pipeline, there's fire roads, there's

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some power lines here and there. There's two other areas. There's the top of skyline dry. There's already one tower there.

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You can put another one and make it bigger if you want to. There's one there if you want to take that one down and make it bigger.

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Knock, knock, he can knock himself out. There's one on top of on Geiger Road in Mauwa.

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Overlooking where the Sheridan was. If you want to take that one down and put another one up there, it's already up there.

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or in the New York State, however, I mean, state pockets, right?

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Of course, on the backside of the chariot, or Tuxedo.

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There's, you know, other mountains up there if he needs to have something

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where he can communicate with Canada.

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There was some discussion about, you know, if it does get anywhere

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and you're being approved, I know it's a long way away.

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A lot of things have to happen.

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But just building a road up there.

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I mean, you can't use the bare swamp road bridge.

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That's an antique bridge.

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So I'll be in another road cut through to get up there to do some work.

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So consider it carefully, you have a lot of work ahead of you, the cell services nice,

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but hopefully won't get approved, but if it does, hopefully the county will get more than

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just cell phone service for the rental amounts, maybe a couple of hundreds of attending

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and I betrayed that goes through the tower,

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and you can buy some more land,

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or whatever you think would be better

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than just self-won service.

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And on a letter note, I'm most

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of part of the Oakland Communications Commission.

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I wanna thank you folks and Scott,

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Steven, for giving us the meetings,

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we re-brow a castes on our cable network.

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So it's a good way to get the word out

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what happens here.

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So again, thank you very much for your time.

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Thank you.

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Next up, Robert Schumaker.

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Robert Schumaker, I live in Blendard.

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And I'm 86 and I've been hiking,

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virtually every Wednesday for the last 40 years.

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I'm blessed.

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And I think I have the backwards about this.

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I actually happy,

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large parts of Harman do not have any cell phones.

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We're out there for adventure.

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You know, we can break legs, we can get my snakes.

446
00:37:20,670 --> 00:37:21,510
That's scary.

447
00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:23,270
That's nice to be out in nature.

448
00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:27,090
So I actually don't want any more cell towers or communications.

449
00:37:27,210 --> 00:37:29,570
I want the freedom to enjoy the woods.

450
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:36,710
So also, we have a mailing list of about 300 act of hikers.

451
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:38,810
I'm going to email them.

452
00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:42,050
I'll let no one is being considered by this Board of Commissioners.

453
00:37:42,930 --> 00:37:44,930
And honestly, I'm very disappointed.

454
00:37:45,250 --> 00:37:46,310
It's even not this far.

455
00:37:46,330 --> 00:37:48,010
I know you just have a man brand him.

456
00:37:48,170 --> 00:37:50,650
But this thing should be dead in the water.

457
00:37:50,650 --> 00:38:00,310
And they won, you know, have a Parkland agreement, we're not supposed to build in it, and this is just the opposite, and so I'm very disappointed in that regard.

458
00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:16,450
So I'm also going to do my best to publicize it in a local Glenrock publications, because I'm pretty sure people are not going to be in favor of taking Parkland and turning it into something for more profit for somebody in Wall Street.

459
00:38:17,170 --> 00:38:17,390
Thank you.

460
00:38:17,390 --> 00:38:18,570
Thank you.

461
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:26,380
Ten Barry.

462
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:38,920
Hello there, Chan.

463
00:38:39,460 --> 00:38:41,720
I don't like this bar as I used to.

464
00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:43,220
Okay.

465
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:46,180
I used to hike all those trails up in that area.

466
00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:52,260
I'm a former trustee of the New Jersey Highlands Coalition before that I was a reporter

467
00:38:52,260 --> 00:38:53,580
for the Bergen record.

468
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:59,380
And I covered the entire process of the curation of the New Jersey Highlands Protection

469
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:00,160
Act.

470
00:39:02,060 --> 00:39:05,900
This act is why they didn't want things like this being built.

471
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,020
On the other hand, the county that had a great job in this little tiny place in Tienak,

472
00:39:12,940 --> 00:39:15,840
Tienak Creek Conservancy was a dump.

473
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:22,420
And with volunteers and with the county parks department, it has been transformed.

474
00:39:22,980 --> 00:39:25,940
That's what we really love about what goes on in Bergen County.

475
00:39:26,060 --> 00:39:26,820
Thank you.

476
00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:29,640
Thank you to our

477
00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:39,830
bicyclist friends, Pat DeRoma,

478
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,620
Pat DeRoma, P-A-T-D-I-R-O-M-A.

479
00:39:53,580 --> 00:39:56,820
Today, I'd like to talk about an intersection in Oakland.

480
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:04,260
A recent article from NorthJersey.com titled Oakland Pedestrian Death raises questions for

481
00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:06,420
Bergen County amid hurdles to upgrades.

482
00:40:06,420 --> 00:40:13,320
I lighted some details about a July crash at the intersection of Oak Street and Remopo Valley Road in Oakland.

483
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,400
I would like to urge anyone who hasn't read the piece to please do so.

484
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,560
It contains a lot more information that I can cover in three minutes here.

485
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,680
But I did want to highlight a quote provided by the county spokesperson, Mr. Sands,

486
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,560
when an interview with Mr. Tedesco and Mr. Famier was requested.

487
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:44,640
The quote was the traffic signal at this intersection is equipped with pedestrian push buttons, pedestrian indications, and ladder crosswalk striping, and it was fully functioning as designed at the time of the accident.

488
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,220
There are a couple of things I want to unpack about this response.

489
00:40:48,820 --> 00:40:58,140
First, I agree that the intersection was functioning as designed as it was designed to enable cars to speed through with as little friction as possible.

490
00:40:58,140 --> 00:41:01,360
This puts pedestrians in cyclists at greater risk.

491
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:06,340
This is something that Chris, I and other advocates have been saying now for a while,

492
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:13,800
and it makes clear that the current design standards we are relying on are for our roadways are out of date and unsafe.

493
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,020
It highlights the need for the county to update these standards with a complete and green streets policy,

494
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:25,340
so that every time maintenance or repaying of a roadway is done, we have a toolkit that we can pull from

495
00:41:25,340 --> 00:41:28,140
to automatically apply proven safety countermeasures.

496
00:41:28,660 --> 00:41:31,620
That is infrastructure that has been scientifically studied

497
00:41:31,620 --> 00:41:34,620
and proven to improve safety for all road users.

498
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,800
Second, as noted in the article,

499
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,680
subsequently after this quote,

500
00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:42,160
the striping was not in fact a ladder pattern.

501
00:41:42,540 --> 00:41:44,920
And had in fact been a ladder pattern in the past,

502
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,320
but it was replaced with a simple double line pattern,

503
00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:49,480
which is less visible to drivers.

504
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,960
The fact that at some point in the recent past

505
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,980
maintenance was done on this roadway

506
00:41:54,980 --> 00:42:05,640
And this intersection was re-striped with a less safe pattern, yet again, reveals that the standards were lying on our outdated and unsafe, which again, we had a complete and green streets policy.

507
00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:08,940
This would be something that was automatically applied.

508
00:42:09,180 --> 00:42:19,140
We would get the updated safety such as the ladder striping, but we would also standardize many other safety improvements such as protected intersections,

509
00:42:19,140 --> 00:42:23,120
curb extensions, pedestrian islands, road diets, bike lanes,

510
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,720
centerline hardening, and the list goes on and on.

511
00:42:27,060 --> 00:42:30,680
Intersections like this are unsafe and the versions of them exist all over

512
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,000
Burger and County. We obviously cannot fix them all overnight, but the easiest path to

513
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,420
making these safety improvements is to update our guidelines and make these

514
00:42:39,420 --> 00:42:42,840
infrastructure all improvements automatic whenever we do maintenance.

515
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,120
We can apply tools that we know will keep residents of Burger and

516
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,460
Thank you.

517
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,000
Next up, Rachel Hughes.

518
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:04,110
Hello.

519
00:43:04,910 --> 00:43:06,150
Hi, Rachel Hughes.

520
00:43:06,430 --> 00:43:08,450
H-U-G-H-E-S.

521
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:09,930
Thank you.

522
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:11,430
And what's down here?

523
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:12,230
I'm from Mala.

524
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:14,530
I am a private citizen.

525
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:16,410
This is not my area of expertise.

526
00:43:16,570 --> 00:43:17,670
I must say.

527
00:43:18,970 --> 00:43:21,670
I have lived in Mala for the past 10 years.

528
00:43:22,810 --> 00:43:29,090
And my understanding is that this tower is primarily to accelerate trades from Canada to Wall Street.

529
00:43:29,090 --> 00:43:35,530
I understand that there is a possibility of potential to add on a cell tower or a cell

530
00:43:35,530 --> 00:43:42,030
accelerant to that, but primarily it is for traits. Ironically, I actually work for a Canadian

531
00:43:42,030 --> 00:43:47,430
bank on Wall Street. And I'm here to assure you that there are no delays in trading.

532
00:43:48,430 --> 00:43:56,930
There's no interruption in trading, and I think that to increase the speed at the

533
00:43:56,930 --> 00:44:03,030
of our beautiful park land and open spaces is like both societally and

534
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:10,510
environmentally irresponsible. I'm also speaking as a mom. My neighborhood is

535
00:44:10,510 --> 00:44:15,510
attached to the Remapole Mountains. I walk there. I let my kids walk there. I

536
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:21,370
chose to live there because of its beauty and as my neighbor had mentioned

537
00:44:21,370 --> 00:44:26,070
before there is a pipeline there now. And you know on a very regular basis

538
00:44:26,070 --> 00:44:34,230
our private neighborhood is now over and with trucks and different people and strangers and

539
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:41,430
it definitely makes me, you know, it makes me hesitate to be out in the open. I'm a runner as well.

540
00:44:42,570 --> 00:44:48,430
So again, this is, you know, my personal stake in it. I can't, there's no way I can follow

541
00:44:48,430 --> 00:44:55,530
what everybody else has said because they have more information on this, but as a mom and as somebody

542
00:44:55,530 --> 00:44:59,570
who's raising her family in a neighborhood that is now consistent.

543
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,340
And there's a consideration for a tower to be put there. I just feel that there have to be more options.

544
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:15,420
From the limited research I've done, you know, towers don't have to be 500 feet.

545
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,160
So like, I'm still at a loss as to why it would even need to be that large.

546
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:27,200
Data towers, cell towers, they can be built onto existing towers as one of the gentlemen already said.

547
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:47,160
So, again, I'm just speaking in opposition, supporting building the public record, and again speaking from somebody who works on Wall Street, like, there's to do this, you know, to accelerate the trades. I mean, it's just, it's really, it's very irresponsible. So, hopefully you consider that. Thank you.

548
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,520
Thank you.

549
00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:57,100
Next up, Rosanne Steves.

550
00:46:01,110 --> 00:46:05,490
Thank you.

551
00:46:08,450 --> 00:46:11,570
I'm just here to echo what everyone else is saying.

552
00:46:11,790 --> 00:46:15,730
I live in Mawa in the same neighborhood that Rachel and a few other speakers.

553
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:18,990
And I'm just here for the same reason.

554
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:20,430
I do just one about this.

555
00:46:21,290 --> 00:46:21,590
Yes.

556
00:46:21,830 --> 00:46:24,650
We've just learned about this potential tower two days ago.

557
00:46:24,650 --> 00:46:27,410
And I think we would have had a much larger turnout

558
00:46:27,410 --> 00:46:29,650
had we had heard about it earlier.

559
00:46:30,570 --> 00:46:33,570
I think my biggest concern as well is just the size of this

560
00:46:33,570 --> 00:46:36,610
tower and not understanding the trading tower part of it

561
00:46:37,090 --> 00:46:40,810
as compared to the cell part in the emergency responding parts

562
00:46:40,810 --> 00:46:41,970
of it, I really understand.

563
00:46:42,670 --> 00:46:45,430
But as we all said as well, it could be a much smaller tower.

564
00:46:45,730 --> 00:46:48,230
So I think that's my main concern.

565
00:46:48,810 --> 00:46:52,870
I also had similar feelings to we're already in an area

566
00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:58,490
that's supposed to be a very quick, quiet, beautiful neighborhood, and we're already loads

567
00:46:58,490 --> 00:47:02,390
of trucks going up and down the neighborhood and whatnot for the pipeline and everything

568
00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:02,750
else.

569
00:47:02,770 --> 00:47:06,470
Every time you turn out of our neighborhood, you see more trucks going up in that area, and

570
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:10,690
it's just heartbreaking to see what could be potentially happening in that area.

571
00:47:12,330 --> 00:47:13,190
That's all I really have to say.

572
00:47:13,330 --> 00:47:13,910
Thank you, Rose.

573
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,360
Next up,

574
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,780
Brian Russo,

575
00:47:33,980 --> 00:47:35,320
hey, Brian.

576
00:47:35,420 --> 00:47:35,880
Hello everybody.

577
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:39,440
I'm Brian Russo, BRIN, are you SSO.

578
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,580
I live in North Heldin.

579
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,780
We're on the border of Oregon County.

580
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,160
I live there 45 years.

581
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,540
My parents are in Mawawa.

582
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:47,500
They've been there about 15 years.

583
00:47:48,060 --> 00:47:51,480
We go hiking up the reservation regularly.

584
00:47:51,480 --> 00:48:00,220
I have family that was in Gringwood, so I'm familiar with the man, so solidarity with the indigenous people who's land this was.

585
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:07,840
I am the co-chair of Climate Reality Project, which is an environmental organization, the New Jersey chapter, founded by Al Gore.

586
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:18,140
So I'm speaking on behalf of our members, we oppose this, mostly because it's public land and we're looking to sell it for private purposes.

587
00:48:18,140 --> 00:48:24,120
Now, living in North Held in my entire life, I've always had terrible cell phone service, and I

588
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,740
could tell you that the cell phone service over at Ramapone Reservation is just fine.

589
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,780
Most of the hikers, they go up the simple trail, they go up by the waterfall, and then there

590
00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:40,880
is the lake, so that's pretty much where everybody goes, and then there are much more trails

591
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,160
throughout, and I tell you that when you are on those trails, there is nobody else around,

592
00:48:46,380 --> 00:48:52,240
We are not looking at our cell phone, like the gentleman's set, so there's really no need for something like this.

593
00:48:52,820 --> 00:48:59,340
I work in an auto body, and let me just give you guys an explanation or an analogy that you may understand.

594
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,400
A few of a brand new vehicle, and your vehicle is perfect, and it looks great, it's nice and beautiful,

595
00:49:05,660 --> 00:49:12,420
and somebody puts a big dent in it, that debt is going to ruin the appearance of that vehicle.

596
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:20,320
So, you know, putting a 500 foot cell phone tower in the middle of preserved land, will destroy, you know, this land.

597
00:49:20,780 --> 00:49:26,780
There's just, there's no purpose for it. So, we're against it for many of the reasons that you've heard here.

598
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,420
There's really no benefit to the public good, and I'm hoping that you guys are going to recognize that.

599
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,500
And we're on this from being built. Thank you.

600
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:41,470
Paula Regoven,

601
00:49:50,780 --> 00:49:55,100
Paula Regoven, R-O-O-G-O-V-I-N, Tina.

602
00:49:56,180 --> 00:50:01,480
I'm speaking as the, on behalf of the Food and Water Watch North Jersey Volunteer Team.

603
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:09,480
This is the envelope for my mail-in ballot for the upcoming election.

604
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:18,760
I haven't voted yet because I'm waiting to see what you,

605
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:25,860
commissioners are going to do about this 500-foot industrial tower in the Ramapovali County

606
00:50:25,860 --> 00:50:31,920
Reservation, an area protected by green acres and the Highlands Preservation area.

607
00:50:32,220 --> 00:50:36,760
We want you to just to drop this proposal now.

608
00:50:37,860 --> 00:50:45,000
Don't pursue it any further, assure us that you're not going to continue with this proposal.

609
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:51,640
Many of us haven't filled out our ballots yet, but we vote.

610
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,880
Your track record on some of environmental issues many of us have brought before you is not

611
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,240
great.

612
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:04,540
In 2018, you refused to vote on a resolution opposing the metal lands frack gas power

613
00:51:04,540 --> 00:51:09,860
plant because it wasn't in Bergen County, even though we sang and you'll remember we sang

614
00:51:09,860 --> 00:51:14,600
blowing in the wind to you to remind you that pollution from North

615
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,940
Bergen would impact Bergen County. Recently, you refused to vote on a

616
00:51:18,940 --> 00:51:23,080
resolution to support the Climate Superfund Act in the state legislature.

617
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,520
Because it wasn't in your purview, as you said, as if flooding another climate

618
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,220
disasters aren't important to Bergen County residents. Now this proposed

619
00:51:33,220 --> 00:51:39,440
Ramapot Tower is in Bergen and is in your purview, and we are all concerned that

620
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:46,960
would even consider this tower and this very beloved land. This choice between Wall Street and

621
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:53,240
this is a choice between Wall Street and environmental justice. There was no excuse for even

622
00:51:53,240 --> 00:52:01,040
considering the tower. Six of us got arrested in April 2023. We were blocking the entrance to

623
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:08,240
the construction site of the TGP pipeline and compressor and west millford. It was in the highlands

624
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:11,140
an area protected by the Highlands Protection Act.

625
00:52:11,540 --> 00:52:13,980
We warned against pollution of the reservoir

626
00:52:13,980 --> 00:52:18,140
and possibly sparks from the compressor causing a wildfire.

627
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,860
Four of us were convicted tragically last summer,

628
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:25,200
an 18-year-old firefighter was killed in a wildfire

629
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,220
just short ways away from this compressor.

630
00:52:29,340 --> 00:52:33,480
We and lots of other people will do civil disobedience

631
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,260
if you continue to consider this project.

632
00:52:37,260 --> 00:52:45,220
And in favor of Wall Street investors, are you commissioners willing to destroy protected

633
00:52:45,220 --> 00:52:45,960
parklands?

634
00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:53,600
Wall Street investors can make money by sending messages a few millions of a second faster.

635
00:52:54,180 --> 00:52:58,640
This is a real betrayal if you continue with this project.

636
00:53:04,450 --> 00:53:08,670
So, Paul, my only thing is if I knew you were going to bring a list of the three things that

637
00:53:08,670 --> 00:53:12,770
really worked, you explained why we didn't do what we did and we didn't take action.

638
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:16,730
I would have made a list of all the things that we've done, especially in my 13 years

639
00:53:16,730 --> 00:53:21,470
here, to preserve open space and what we've done with open space, there's a way more

640
00:53:21,470 --> 00:53:25,590
things that we actually did than just the three things that you're saying that we didn't

641
00:53:25,590 --> 00:53:27,730
participate in that we're out of our purview.

642
00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:32,070
So if you're going to do a list, you should also be mindful of the things that we did

643
00:53:32,070 --> 00:53:33,270
do to preserve open space.

644
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:41,030
This board is the one that made the open space of full penny after a voter's wanted it to go to a full penny and the other administrations were afraid to do it

645
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:50,190
So we've done everything we could we could to this point to preserve open space you have one topic and then you come up and salt us with three things that we're out of our purview

646
00:53:50,190 --> 00:53:54,930
Next time please give me a heads up so I can make the list of all the things that we've accomplished while we're sitting here

647
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,980
Usually usually no

648
00:54:06,370 --> 00:54:07,170
Chris Noel

649
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:19,970
Good evening, Chris Null, NWELL, Fort Lee.

650
00:54:20,970 --> 00:54:23,510
I actually know many people in the room tonight,

651
00:54:23,590 --> 00:54:26,430
and I stand in solidarity with them against this tower.

652
00:54:27,490 --> 00:54:29,230
Please just kind of off at the beginning,

653
00:54:29,490 --> 00:54:30,930
save your time in administrative fees,

654
00:54:32,270 --> 00:54:34,990
and just stop it before it goes any further.

655
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:38,970
And so I wanted to also talk about the E-Bike ban

656
00:54:38,970 --> 00:54:40,410
in Santa Barbara County Park,

657
00:54:40,610 --> 00:54:43,290
and I'm going to urge you to scrap that ordinance.

658
00:54:45,070 --> 00:54:47,350
Bands don't work, and they're not fair.

659
00:54:48,210 --> 00:54:51,210
I was in the center of the county park on Saturday morning running,

660
00:54:52,010 --> 00:54:57,350
and there were maybe about 40% of the cyclists were on e-bikes in the park,

661
00:54:57,670 --> 00:55:00,590
and so clearly there are e-bikes cyclists riding in the park,

662
00:55:00,970 --> 00:55:03,230
and they're all riding at very reasonable speeds,

663
00:55:04,070 --> 00:55:07,610
and so they actually was possible for them to get a summons.

664
00:55:08,550 --> 00:55:13,150
You know, while there were cyclists on acoustic bikes,

665
00:55:13,150 --> 00:55:15,530
You know, right beside them are going faster.

666
00:55:16,510 --> 00:55:24,830
So this is obviously a huge issue that's just beyond one park or, you know, any bands in county parks.

667
00:55:25,730 --> 00:55:35,330
At easy ride, we have municipalities and police departments contacting us almost daily now about the issue of e-bikes in the towns.

668
00:55:35,330 --> 00:55:42,810
And actually, I'm going to be engaging in a discussion in Closter in two weeks with the police

669
00:55:42,810 --> 00:55:48,110
department and Council and parents, and in Creskill Police Department found out about it,

670
00:55:48,110 --> 00:55:53,070
and they want to do something. And I have a meeting with the Bogota Council and Police Department

671
00:55:53,070 --> 00:55:57,770
tomorrow to talk about this kind of thing, and I was in North Hale in today actually talking

672
00:55:57,770 --> 00:56:03,990
with the mayor and the Chief of Police, and they want to send some one of the police officers

673
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:06,710
to the closer meeting to see what we're going to talk about there.

674
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:12,230
So the thing is, though, I mean, a lot of the focus, what we can do on this very small

675
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:17,550
level is related to education and enforcement, and that's really not enough.

676
00:56:18,310 --> 00:56:23,170
And these municipalities are considering ordinances, but these things won't solve it.

677
00:56:23,250 --> 00:56:25,390
We can't solve it, I mean, it's on a municipal level.

678
00:56:25,870 --> 00:56:32,770
So we need state regulations regarding sales of these things, and registration of e-models.

679
00:56:33,730 --> 00:56:39,990
Which you can advocate for, you know, whether you consider that in your purview or not.

680
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:44,270
But the biggest, the best solutions are infrastructure.

681
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:49,670
So people, e-bike riders and e-scooter riders are vulnerable road users.

682
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:51,730
They need safe places to ride.

683
00:56:52,330 --> 00:56:56,130
And so that's where the local safety action plan comes in

684
00:56:56,130 --> 00:56:59,810
and a complete and reads complete and green street policy for the county.

685
00:57:00,330 --> 00:57:01,930
And so we need these things to happen.

686
00:57:01,930 --> 00:57:08,130
The local safety action plan, by the way, you know, I don't know what the status is of it and

687
00:57:08,130 --> 00:57:12,810
North Jersey transportation planning authority completes technical assistance program.

688
00:57:13,050 --> 00:57:14,430
I should have used an acronym there.

689
00:57:14,990 --> 00:57:20,010
Is open now and we can cite the local safety action plan.

690
00:57:20,110 --> 00:57:23,990
We're going to apply for it in four lead, but it's not out, so we can't cite it.

691
00:57:24,370 --> 00:57:27,970
Okay, so also I hope you all read Colleen Wilson's article.

692
00:57:27,970 --> 00:57:33,090
It's an amazing insight into what's happening internally in the county and the

693
00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:38,730
cowlessness and like it just kind of revealed some negligence, a negligent attitude.

694
00:57:39,590 --> 00:57:40,190
Whoops.

695
00:57:40,930 --> 00:57:42,570
That really isn't acceptable.

696
00:57:42,850 --> 00:57:44,010
So thank you very much.

697
00:57:44,510 --> 00:57:45,230
Thank you Chris.

698
00:57:48,730 --> 00:57:49,890
Brian Scanlan.

699
00:57:57,350 --> 00:57:59,590
Feel a little like I'm in high school.

700
00:57:59,590 --> 00:58:11,090
I pulled up to recite, before the School of Administration, Brian Scanlan, with an ISEA in LAN, and your Waikov.

701
00:58:11,230 --> 00:58:19,490
I'm Waikov, former mayor and councilmember, mayor and councilmember, proud graduate of Emerson Junior, senior high school.

702
00:58:20,150 --> 00:58:22,510
I've come to oppose this tower.

703
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:28,650
We, my wife and I use, my wife and I use Ramapow reservation very frequently.

704
00:58:29,290 --> 00:58:34,750
I'm really sorry that you opened the door to this by signing this memorandum.

705
00:58:35,370 --> 00:58:39,410
When Tom was reciting the list of things that you've done for parks,

706
00:58:39,470 --> 00:58:44,270
you failed to mention the many thousands, tens of thousands,

707
00:58:44,270 --> 00:58:50,430
if not hundreds of thousands of people that use Ramapo reservation every year, maybe that should

708
00:58:50,430 --> 00:58:51,490
be added to the list.

709
00:58:52,210 --> 00:58:58,590
The other thing I want to say is that I just get the sense that you guys have never met

710
00:58:58,590 --> 00:59:03,130
a fossil fuel project that you didn't like.

711
00:59:04,030 --> 00:59:10,710
And I point out, as others have the Tennessee Gas Pipeline, which goes right through that area

712
00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:16,170
right past Ramapo College, you had every right to pass a resolution against that.

713
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:22,430
And my theory is the reason you didn't was because you were under a lot of pressure from

714
00:59:22,430 --> 00:59:28,710
the labor unions, because they wanted those temporary jobs, building that, fracked gas

715
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:34,470
compressor, compressor station in West Millford. You could have come again out against that.

716
00:59:34,610 --> 00:59:40,490
But you didn't. You could come in favor now of the Climate Superfund Act, but you won't

717
00:59:40,490 --> 00:59:48,190
do that either. It is in your purview and it does create good union jobs and it also will

718
00:59:48,190 --> 00:59:54,230
be a benefit to the taxpayers of Burton County because they will see their taxes reduced

719
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:59,970
by those funds. So please pass a resolution in favor of the climate superfluous.

720
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:12,920
Finally, with regard to this tower, I know maybe you want the leasing revenue. In addition to cell phone service. As people appointed out, there's other ways to get cell phone service.

721
01:00:13,380 --> 01:00:29,080
But if this tower does go through and because you've opened the door and we've seen it with the Tennessee gas pipeline and with other projects across the state, whatever the local officials pass, the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection,

722
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,780
and the Highlands Council rubber stamps.

723
01:00:33,420 --> 01:00:35,680
So you guys are in the driver seat here,

724
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,640
but if you go through with this and the thing gets built,

725
01:00:39,180 --> 01:00:42,300
I want each of your names up on the top of that tower

726
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:44,840
in one foot high letters,

727
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,020
so that everybody can see who's responsible for it.

728
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,680
Just don't do it, and as Paul has said,

729
01:00:51,180 --> 01:00:54,140
close the door now, thank you.

730
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,340
Mary Walsh,

731
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:17,410
so I want to reiterate

732
01:01:17,410 --> 01:01:35,590
What Jeff Tittle said about all the good stuff that you have done, because you saved overpacked park from infrastructure and one of two of my colleagues and I went into the Ramapoe before the pipeline was put in.

733
01:01:36,710 --> 01:01:43,030
And between the three of us we got 150 signatures an hour against the pipeline.

734
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:52,190
regrettally the thing moved forward but I just thought it was curious when somebody said

735
01:01:52,190 --> 01:01:59,230
there was no cell service in the Ramapoe because this is a titanium elbow which resulted

736
01:01:59,230 --> 01:02:09,230
from falling about two hours up the mountain, a hiking partner called the Park Service,

737
01:02:09,230 --> 01:02:14,890
you know, the park department, the ambulance, 15 minutes later, I was in the ambulance.

738
01:02:15,790 --> 01:02:18,370
So I can attest that there is cell service there.

739
01:02:21,090 --> 01:02:28,270
Three different cell phone companies have assured on the public that they are, and these are

740
01:02:28,270 --> 01:02:34,430
the major ones, are providing a hundred percent cell service in this area, depending on

741
01:02:34,430 --> 01:02:42,010
What you read, read, it could be four cell towers, it could be 13, you know, it's the number

742
01:02:42,010 --> 01:02:47,270
is not secure, but there definitely is cell service in there.

743
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:55,020
So I thought I would save you some time by calling the Green Acres Compliance Officer for

744
01:02:55,020 --> 01:02:55,720
Berking County.

745
01:02:55,780 --> 01:02:59,420
I spoke with her yesterday, and I copied down what she said.

746
01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:12,300
She said, there has to be a compelling public need and significant public benefit for the diversion that would be to put up the tower.

747
01:03:13,580 --> 01:03:19,700
If there is a reasonable, feasible alternative, then the county has to go with that.

748
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,100
So I know you'll do the right thing. Thank you.

749
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,680
Next up, Robert Moss.

750
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:47,560
Good evening, Robert Moss. I live in Bloomfield. I've been involved in green acres issues since about 2010

751
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:55,920
I just have very sketchy notes here like many people just found out about this. I'm juggling things trying to look up stuff about this

752
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:00,240
One of the things I notice the McCay people or their lawyers

753
01:04:01,020 --> 01:04:03,420
seem to be

754
01:04:03,420 --> 01:04:05,080
pushing this thing like

755
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:12,040
There's a lot of things we can do that will make this easily flow through the diversion process,

756
01:04:12,380 --> 01:04:13,740
the State House Commission, and so on.

757
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:18,940
For example, the lease, 19 years and 11 months.

758
01:04:19,460 --> 01:04:22,100
I don't know who, and I don't even want to explain it.

759
01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:25,200
I think many people don't realize why that number was chosen.

760
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:27,420
Sorry, I will explain it.

761
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:31,080
This came up with Mountain Broadcasting way back and around 2000

762
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:37,920
in over towards Sparta that was not cells back then that was a television station.

763
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,080
The lease was 19 years and 11 months.

764
01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:46,360
It had a renewal clause, which said,

765
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,860
Oh, the state, this is state land.

766
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:50,420
The state can renew,

767
01:04:53,210 --> 01:04:55,290
I'm sorry, how did this work now?

768
01:04:56,310 --> 01:05:00,150
Oh, the tenant can renew the lease if the state doesn't need the land.

769
01:05:00,150 --> 01:05:04,990
Now, this is a tower sitting in the middle of a wildlife management area surrounded by woods.

770
01:05:05,930 --> 01:05:15,310
The states, and this would apply to the county here, the managing the state or the local government entity,

771
01:05:15,490 --> 01:05:25,510
whichever it is, has no legitimate interest in just putting stuff in a wooded area that's under Green Acres protection,

772
01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:31,090
particularly in an existing tower. So of course, the state in that case, the county here,

773
01:05:31,330 --> 01:05:37,390
is not going to be able to say they need the existing building. So the tenant would then say

774
01:05:37,390 --> 01:05:42,190
if the contract is written this way, the tenant would just say, oh well, since you don't need this

775
01:05:42,190 --> 01:05:48,130
space here, I'm going to renew automatically for then you've gone over the 20 years and the requirements

776
01:05:49,070 --> 01:05:55,510
for a lease of greater than 20 years, 20 years or greater, are more stiff than requirements

777
01:05:55,510 --> 01:05:58,310
for less than 20 years, which is where that number comes from.

778
01:05:58,630 --> 01:06:01,950
I don't remember the details, again, I'm juggling stuff, you don't want to know everything,

779
01:06:02,110 --> 01:06:08,330
I'm juggling, found out about this like during the weekend, but that's one example.

780
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:16,190
McKay, as far as I'm concerned, is handing people a load of corn as what they said in Joseph

781
01:06:16,190 --> 01:06:18,250
in the technical or dream code.

782
01:06:20,070 --> 01:06:21,510
What else we might have?

783
01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:23,350
Oh, the public private partnership.

784
01:06:24,010 --> 01:06:28,690
There's nothing in the Green Acres regulations or any Green Acres law that gives that

785
01:06:28,690 --> 01:06:30,870
fact that it's a public private partnership.

786
01:06:31,710 --> 01:06:34,970
Any weight, as far as whether this should be approved or not.

787
01:06:35,210 --> 01:06:37,250
That's something they just threw in.

788
01:06:40,490 --> 01:06:41,990
And so on.

789
01:06:42,250 --> 01:06:43,250
I think I'll leave it there.

790
01:06:43,250 --> 01:06:47,710
Second everything I heard tonight. I came in light everything I heard tonight about the tower

791
01:06:47,710 --> 01:06:53,610
I quite confident I could second or approve of everything that was said about the tower before I got here

792
01:06:54,190 --> 01:06:54,670
So

793
01:06:54,670 --> 01:07:01,190
You know Ronald Rhett with me was Ronald Reagan just say no. Oh, I'll let I'm just say no. Okay. Thank you

794
01:07:01,190 --> 01:07:01,670
That was name

795
01:07:01,670 --> 01:07:02,810
He's quote, and everybody

796
01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:09,870
Next up, Shinnas

797
01:07:11,010 --> 01:07:15,170
are human now I'm not I'm mask green or less name sorry

798
01:07:22,790 --> 01:07:23,690
hi my name is

799
01:07:23,690 --> 01:07:31,130
Shena's S. H. H. H. A. N. E. Z. Last name is Archimond. A. R. J. U. M. A. N. D.

800
01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:37,940
T. Nick. I'm here to talk about the tower that everybody's talking about the

801
01:07:37,940 --> 01:07:42,460
infamous tower and the environmental impact we all live in the same county.

802
01:07:42,940 --> 01:07:46,660
We all we the same air it's not like the air doesn't stop. Oh wait this is

803
01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:51,940
the commissioners house is not going to stop there, right? So it's whatever happens that

804
01:07:51,940 --> 01:07:56,420
happens to all of us and we're all going to go through it together. Clearly they're

805
01:07:56,420 --> 01:08:03,880
environmental impacts that people spoke about and they're also impacts to the community

806
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:11,380
and their health impacts as well as cost impacts too. When we talk about a tower like that

807
01:08:11,380 --> 01:08:15,240
that goes up, you know, how much power is it utilizing?

808
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,240
I mean, there are a lot of questions that we need to ask,

809
01:08:18,700 --> 01:08:20,540
is it 40 megawatts of power?

810
01:08:20,660 --> 01:08:25,000
Is that equal to, you know, 40,000 homes of electricity?

811
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,020
What are we talking about in terms of cost?

812
01:08:27,180 --> 01:08:30,160
And then when we talk about the impact of the water,

813
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,940
and the environment really needs to consider all

814
01:08:33,940 --> 01:08:35,540
of these factors as we look at this.

815
01:08:35,540 --> 01:08:39,480
I just want to remind one thing, and I was reading up on this

816
01:08:39,480 --> 01:08:47,140
In 2018, when the burden county purchased 18 acres of land for $1.35 million for, from the

817
01:08:47,140 --> 01:08:53,140
burden county open space preservation trust fund to expand the Ramapo Valley County Reservation,

818
01:08:53,980 --> 01:09:00,380
it consists of wetlands and open fields that are potential nesting habitats for wood

819
01:09:00,380 --> 01:09:06,040
and bog turtles, both are listed as threatened species by federal life authorities.

820
01:09:06,780 --> 01:09:12,820
Now, at that time, Bergen County Executive to Desco at that time was quoted saying this

821
01:09:12,820 --> 01:09:17,620
addition to one of Bergen County's most popular parks is an investment in the quality

822
01:09:17,620 --> 01:09:22,100
of life for current and future generations of Bergen County residents.

823
01:09:23,460 --> 01:09:30,880
And at that time, Tom Selman, as was a chairman, and he was quoted saying, people moved

824
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:35,180
to and stayed in Bergen County for the quality of life and acquiring and preserving

825
01:09:35,180 --> 01:09:41,340
in additional 18 acres for the Ramapore Reservation is a protection and demonstration of those

826
01:09:41,340 --> 01:09:49,700
values. So I think we need to really do what we can to protect those values. So thank you.

827
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:01,700
Kirk Schockenberg from

828
01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:19,310
Bergen County. I'm from Pasea County.

829
01:10:21,290 --> 01:10:31,350
And Kurt Schneckenberg, SCH, NAK, ENB, ERG, Kurt, KURT.

830
01:10:34,010 --> 01:10:41,070
But I feel that the issue of the ramp up tower is so significant that I had to make

831
01:10:41,070 --> 01:10:44,450
the time to come up to Bergen County to say hello.

832
01:10:44,450 --> 01:10:50,910
I'm, I'm wearing, obviously, I got a hijacked for this.

833
01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:55,530
I'm wearing a free wolf, wound T shirt, it's very, it's very comfortable.

834
01:10:56,310 --> 01:11:00,790
But it's not appropriate where for the Bergen County Board of Commissioners.

835
01:11:01,310 --> 01:11:02,070
And I'm sorry.

836
01:11:03,330 --> 01:11:08,110
I used to be the guy on the side of the building and so on the satellite dishes.

837
01:11:08,110 --> 01:11:17,810
I'm a tech, I became a .NET programmer, and I pretty much am a .NET programmer.

838
01:11:18,810 --> 01:11:23,690
But before I was a .NET programmer, I used to install satellite dishes.

839
01:11:24,530 --> 01:11:28,170
And the name of the game is line of sight.

840
01:11:29,090 --> 01:11:37,070
You want line of sight from your building to wherever the entire west side of Manhattan

841
01:11:37,070 --> 01:11:44,870
one's line of sight to a tower and they're going to spit blood until they get it and they're

842
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:53,630
going to try to put towers up all around New Jersey for the benefit of New York. This tower

843
01:11:53,630 --> 01:12:00,450
is no different. It exists to benefit New York. It benefits the real estate scene.

844
01:12:05,650 --> 01:12:06,410
It's

845
01:12:06,410 --> 01:12:16,130
west side and hit the tower and then reflect the signal onward. So you'd have two dishes

846
01:12:16,130 --> 01:12:19,330
on the tower. One incoming one outgoing.

847
01:12:24,570 --> 01:12:26,650
I just feel that you as commissioners should

848
01:12:26,650 --> 01:12:33,830
know about that because why is this tower being built? It's being built because you're

849
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:41,950
New York City and New York City's needs are going to be overwhelming. They're going to

850
01:12:41,950 --> 01:12:45,530
constantly be chewing at Bergen County.

851
01:12:47,890 --> 01:12:51,250
You can't meet all of New York City's needs even if

852
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,860
you

853
01:12:57,860 --> 01:13:00,940
cities needs. Thank you. Thank you, sir.

854
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,880
Yes. Mrs. Nackenberg. I guess Ann.

855
01:13:20,980 --> 01:13:30,880
Ann, Ann, Ann, Ann, Ann, Ann, Ann, A-K-E, Ann, B-E-R-G. Okay. Hi there. I'm also

856
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:40,220
imported from Pasey County and it's worth the trip over to visit with you because we

857
01:13:40,220 --> 01:13:43,720
don't want this happening in our county or anywhere else across the state of New

858
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:44,300
Jersey.

859
01:13:46,620 --> 01:13:53,700
I appreciate the opportunity to be heard, posing this tower as a taxpayer and resident

860
01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:58,500
as state and New Jersey with a vested interest in proposed and protected open space.

861
01:13:59,060 --> 01:14:02,740
I'm here to tell you that this is not just a local Bergen County issue, it's actually

862
01:14:02,740 --> 01:14:06,700
a state issue, because if you make a bad decision here, if any of you make a bad decision

863
01:14:06,700 --> 01:14:11,820
here, it's going to reverberate throughout the rest of New Jersey as one developer after

864
01:14:11,820 --> 01:14:17,020
another looks at what you've done and uses it as leverage to promote one more bad proposal

865
01:14:17,020 --> 01:14:22,500
after another throughout the state. Do not let this be your legacy. Okay, you have an

866
01:14:22,500 --> 01:14:27,360
opportunity if you can nip this in the bud and save everyone a lot of time and effort you'll

867
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:31,460
be doing a public service, you'll save us time, you'll save your time, you'll save tax dollars

868
01:14:31,460 --> 01:14:37,800
because as you can see this is going to be severely opposed. Okay, and I speak from experience.

869
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:44,780
The public, and also the public does not need a 500 foot tower, and they certainly don't want one here.

870
01:14:45,700 --> 01:14:48,500
There's no public need existing for this at all.

871
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,620
What we need is nature and open space.

872
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,240
The pandemic taught us that.

873
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:58,500
There's environmental justice issues at play here.

874
01:14:58,760 --> 01:14:59,840
There is...

875
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:24,320
Organization of Public Land, industrialization of public land, special interest groups. Are you representing your constituents? Are you representing Wall Street investors? Please think about this. Before you go down the garden path into a brick wall with it. I don't understand why it's even being considered at all. I just heard about this.

876
01:15:27,780 --> 01:15:32,640
I'm trying to think that it's just bad. It's a very bad idea. And you're not doing anyone faith.

877
01:15:32,660 --> 01:15:44,300
anyone any favors? Are you actually, do you actually think that it's a good idea to put everyone

878
01:15:44,300 --> 01:15:51,640
through this? Do you actually think that public protected land that's, you're supposed to be the

879
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:57,740
protectors of. You were once called freeholders who landholders who were protectors of the land.

880
01:15:57,740 --> 01:16:04,780
Please do your jobs and protect the land that is already supposed to be protected.

881
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:06,160
Please do the right thing.

882
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:06,720
Thank you.

883
01:16:06,940 --> 01:16:07,580
Good night.

884
01:16:12,300 --> 01:16:19,580
It appears we have no more speakers, and so I move, we close the hearing to the...

885
01:16:19,580 --> 01:16:20,000
Excuse me.

886
01:16:21,140 --> 01:16:21,470
Chairwoman.

887
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:22,240
What's called?

888
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:22,480
All right.

889
01:16:22,860 --> 01:16:24,640
I'll second that close.

890
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:26,060
Very good.

891
01:16:26,060 --> 01:16:26,800
All in favor.

892
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:27,700
All right.

893
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,240
I just want to set the record straight.

894
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:36,910
You know, this phone is a computer of course, and I just check in my notes the first lady the council woman came and spoke

895
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:43,400
He responsibly. Yeah, yeah, I may not have been a demeaning, but I was represented there by my legislative aid

896
01:16:43,980 --> 01:16:48,240
Who gave me a full report on the this is the Oakland. This is nothing to do with the tower

897
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:52,840
This is the first lady talked about the Oakland issue in Oakland the dump in Oakland

898
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:57,920
I was represented there by Andrew walked in my legislative aid who gave me report and I also

899
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:05,620
got together with my commission friends that were there. So the problem is misinformation and that's the problem we have in this country right now

900
01:17:05,620 --> 01:17:11,520
People come up and just say what they want. Obviously we realized why that was said it's silly time

901
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:18,500
It's silly season this election time. So I just wanted to set the record straight and let everyone know that I was represented at that meeting

902
01:17:18,500 --> 01:17:25,940
And it was a very irresponsible statement without having the facts, but that seems to be what people do nowadays and I won't do things like that

903
01:17:25,940 --> 01:17:26,840
So thank you

904
01:17:30,710 --> 01:17:34,570
I, the last speaker, said to us, do our jobs.

905
01:17:35,770 --> 01:17:39,670
I will tell you that that is exactly what we're going to do.

906
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:40,810
Our jobs.

907
01:17:41,550 --> 01:17:46,070
And I grew up on that Saturday morning television that talked about knowledge being power.

908
01:17:47,390 --> 01:17:49,210
We have to do our due diligence.

909
01:17:49,790 --> 01:17:52,010
We have to open up this conversation.

910
01:17:52,810 --> 01:17:54,370
You said, do something else.

911
01:17:54,410 --> 01:17:55,750
You have other options.

912
01:17:55,750 --> 01:18:04,250
We have a federal government that is gutting funding to so many of our critical resources and our programs that affect those most in need.

913
01:18:04,770 --> 01:18:12,050
It's not like we can just pull other dollars out of our dairy air and fund the projects of magnitude to protect public safety.

914
01:18:12,590 --> 01:18:21,450
I am not and you know how committed I am, whether it has been styrofoam bands or joint services for densification or our

915
01:18:21,450 --> 01:18:35,410
This entire board standing up for rail to trails when you talk about our legacy, our legacy is going to be what we did the other day of cutting a ribbon on preserving additional open space in East Wutherford to expand Parkland in very dense areas.

916
01:18:35,670 --> 01:18:46,110
It is a park's master plan that has been the first in a generation to generations to focus on our long term strategic planning for how we're going to preserve open space.

917
01:18:46,110 --> 01:18:59,950
It is fully funding, open space dollars, day in and day out so we can continue to put a private plan that was held privately now into our public portfolio so we can have that air to breathe.

918
01:19:00,330 --> 01:19:16,090
We are all committed. I don't agree with you Brian and you and I have known each other a long time on the climate action plan and follow. I disagree with you too because we've been about doing what we can do actively not just passing a BS resolution and support of something that somebody else is doing.

919
01:19:16,090 --> 01:19:24,030
but taking action here to change our energy usage to make sure that we are looking to other alternative resources

920
01:19:24,030 --> 01:19:26,810
that we can preserve our environment for future generations.

921
01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:32,630
I can tell you that every single member on this board is committed to making sure that our environment is safe,

922
01:19:33,010 --> 01:19:36,190
that we are leaving this planet better for the generation that comes behind us.

923
01:19:36,750 --> 01:19:42,330
I want to know what this plan looks like so that I can then make an informed and educated decision.

924
01:19:42,330 --> 01:19:51,530
And we are not going to short-cut that, and I appreciate you all coming out here and making your voices heard that is what makes change.

925
01:19:51,610 --> 01:19:57,230
That is what makes store that these issues are continuing to be at the forefront of our and everyone's minds.

926
01:19:57,770 --> 01:20:08,490
But we will do nothing that is irresponsible for the residents of Bergen County, because all of us care, not just about our grandchildren, but about your grandchildren and about the generations that we leave behind.

927
01:20:08,490 --> 01:20:24,850
So, we are thinking about this, we are taking our responsibility beyond seriously, and every single day, I get up figuring out how we can continue to do better, how we can electrify our fleet, how we can make sure that we are doing more for our environment.

928
01:20:25,470 --> 01:20:31,450
So, I look forward to this ongoing dialogue, I look forward to you showing up not just here, but at the polls.

929
01:20:31,450 --> 01:20:55,350
And I will tell you that every single one of us will continue to earn your trust and your respect when it comes to all of this, because we are committed to being part of this movement that continues to move just, you know, how we continue to do our business here has these issues with the forefront of our mind. So thank you, Chairwoman. I apologize for my animation.

930
01:21:02,180 --> 01:21:06,760
We also just gave a million dollars for more open space and up a set of river.

931
01:21:07,180 --> 01:21:12,600
11 acres, which will be a bird sanctuary, so we are definitely committed to it.

932
01:21:12,820 --> 01:21:17,700
I appreciate everyone coming out tonight and educating us as we get educated as well.

933
01:21:18,020 --> 01:21:18,520
Thank you.

934
01:21:18,660 --> 01:21:25,160
Thank you for your input and again we have 10,000 acres of parkland of which we are very proud.

935
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:26,380
Thank you, Chairwoman.

936
01:21:27,940 --> 01:21:28,140
Okay.

937
01:21:28,780 --> 01:21:31,200
We are going to move on in our agenda.

938
01:21:31,220 --> 01:21:32,600
Give me a minute to break.

939
01:21:34,140 --> 01:21:36,520
I could look at our face.

940
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:38,480
Second.

941
01:21:39,220 --> 01:21:39,720
All in favor.

942
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:44,320
High, so.

943
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:45,820
High motion, second.

944
01:21:46,580 --> 01:21:49,040
We can vote for you.

945
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:50,400
Second, we can vote for you.

946
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:50,500
We can vote for you.

947
01:21:50,500 --> 01:21:51,060
All in favor.

948
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,580
High, right.

949
01:21:52,660 --> 01:21:52,780
High, right.

950
01:21:53,660 --> 01:21:53,900
Your hat.

951
01:21:53,900 --> 01:21:54,080
We.

952
01:21:55,620 --> 01:21:59,580
We will now review the resolutions to be voted on this evening.

953
01:21:59,580 --> 01:22:00,880
Mr. Clerk.

954
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:06,220
You have resolutions 1326-25-1411-25.

955
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:11,080
Do I have a motion to accept the resolutions as a consent agenda?

956
01:22:12,180 --> 01:22:12,980
Don't move, second.

957
01:22:14,060 --> 01:22:15,540
Okay, roll call, please.

958
01:22:15,980 --> 01:22:16,740
Commissioner Marte.

959
01:22:17,580 --> 01:22:18,320
Commissioner Ortiz.

960
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:18,900
Yes.

961
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:19,700
Commissioner Sullivan.

962
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:20,360
Yes.

963
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:21,220
Vice Chairman Tonelli.

964
01:22:21,900 --> 01:22:22,960
Chair Pro Temporabos.

965
01:22:23,480 --> 01:22:24,220
Commissioner Zer.

966
01:22:24,860 --> 01:22:25,180
Yes.

967
01:22:25,180 --> 01:22:31,180
numberosa. Yes. With seven yeses the consent agenda is approved. Are there any resolutions

968
01:22:31,180 --> 01:22:38,660
of non-consent, table, or code? They are none. Okay. We are moving on to our ordinances. First,

969
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:46,660
we have our first meeting ordinance. We have ordinance 25-42. Will the clerk read the ordinance

970
01:22:46,660 --> 01:22:53,160
by title only? Ordnance 25-42 is an ordinance establishing the speed limit along Nicarbaca

971
01:22:53,160 --> 01:23:00,760
road in the borough of Closer. May I have a motion to introduce ordnance 2542 as was read by the clerk.

972
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,520
So, Mo, roll call, please.

973
01:23:03,940 --> 01:23:06,540
Commissioner Marta. Yes. Commissioner Ortiz. Yes.

974
01:23:06,540 --> 01:23:09,140
Commissioner Sullivan. Yes. Vice Chairman Tonelli. Yes.

975
01:23:09,340 --> 01:23:11,060
Chair Pro Tempore Vos. Yes.

976
01:23:11,060 --> 01:23:12,120
Commissioner, is there? Yes.

977
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:13,820
Chairwoman Amarosa. Yes.

978
01:23:15,260 --> 01:23:19,900
With seven yeses, ordnance 25-42 was introduced and passes first reading.

979
01:23:19,900 --> 01:23:25,560
Next up, we will go on to our ordinance for second reading and adoption.

980
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,620
Will the clerk read the ordinance by title only?

981
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:38,680
Ordinance 25-41 is to rescind and replace the county of Bergen ordinance number 93-47 adopted November 3rd 1993 expanding

982
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:45,960
environmental law enforcement authority and providing additional financial resources for the responsibility set forth under the county

983
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,720
environmental health act.

984
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,080
This is the time fixed for the public hearing of this ordinance,

985
01:23:54,620 --> 01:24:00,620
which was introduced at the meeting of September 30th. Advertised as required by law,

986
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:06,880
together with the notice of hearing for this time, it has been posted on the County Commissioners

987
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:13,200
Bulletin Board and made available to the public. May I have a motion to open the hearing

988
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,900
on ordnance 2541 to the public.

989
01:24:16,900 --> 01:24:17,780
So, move.

990
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:22,300
All in favor.

991
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:23,620
All right.

992
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:23,940
Okay.

993
01:24:24,140 --> 01:24:27,700
Public hearing is open with a five minute time limit in effect.

994
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:31,120
Are there any speakers?

995
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,300
There are no speakers, gentlemen.

996
01:24:33,140 --> 01:24:34,040
Thank you.

997
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,660
May I have a motion to close the public hearing?

998
01:24:36,660 --> 01:24:37,220
Some have.

999
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:38,600
Very good.

1000
01:24:38,860 --> 01:24:39,420
All in favor.

1001
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:40,140
All right.

1002
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:45,400
May I have a motion to adopt ordnance 2539 and 2540.

1003
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,080
Some of us.

1004
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:48,740
Second, all in favor.

1005
01:24:49,300 --> 01:24:49,360
Hi.

1006
01:24:49,740 --> 01:24:51,500
roll call, please on final adoption.

1007
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:52,880
Commissioner Marte.

1008
01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:54,200
Commissioner Ortiz.

1009
01:24:55,020 --> 01:24:55,060
Yes.

1010
01:24:55,060 --> 01:24:55,760
Commissioner Sullivan.

1011
01:24:56,300 --> 01:24:57,040
Vice Chairman Tonelli.

1012
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:58,680
Chair Pope Tempo Ravos.

1013
01:24:59,700 --> 01:24:59,860
Yes.

1014
01:24:59,900 --> 01:25:00,180
Commissioner Zer.

1015
01:25:00,300 --> 01:25:00,720
Yes.

1016
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:01,440
Chairwoman Emerosa.

1017
01:25:02,500 --> 01:25:03,740
With 70 S's ordinance.

1018
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,240
Ordnance is 25-41 passes second reading and is adopted.

1019
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:08,680
Thank you.

1020
01:25:09,660 --> 01:25:13,940
This is now time for our Commissioner committee reports.

1021
01:25:17,230 --> 01:25:20,230
I'd like to make a motion to cancel reports.

1022
01:25:20,250 --> 01:25:21,630
Thank you.

1023
01:25:23,990 --> 01:25:25,230
All in favor?

1024
01:25:25,610 --> 01:25:25,790
Aye.

1025
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:26,550
Nay.

1026
01:25:26,710 --> 01:25:27,770
We're going to do a roll call.

1027
01:25:27,930 --> 01:25:28,490
You roll call.

1028
01:25:28,630 --> 01:25:29,790
Okay, roll call start.

1029
01:25:30,150 --> 01:25:30,730
Go ahead.

1030
01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:33,010
Commissioner Marte.

1031
01:25:33,690 --> 01:25:34,010
Yes.

1032
01:25:34,910 --> 01:25:35,610
Commissioner Ortiz.

1033
01:25:35,730 --> 01:25:36,030
Yes.

1034
01:25:36,370 --> 01:25:37,010
Commissioner Sullivan.

1035
01:25:37,250 --> 01:25:37,510
Oh.

1036
01:25:38,170 --> 01:25:38,950
Vice Chairman Tonelli.

1037
01:25:40,050 --> 01:25:41,030
Chair vote 10 for boss.

1038
01:25:42,970 --> 01:25:43,190
Commissioner.

1039
01:25:43,190 --> 01:25:43,390
Commissioner.

1040
01:25:43,670 --> 01:25:43,970
No.

1041
01:25:44,510 --> 01:25:44,750
Chairman.

1042
01:25:45,070 --> 01:25:45,650
Yes.

1043
01:25:48,860 --> 01:25:49,120
So.

1044
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:59,100
five yeses. So we are canceling. There being nothing further to come before this meeting.

1045
01:25:59,460 --> 01:26:01,440
I moved to adjourn. I need a second.

1046
01:26:01,700 --> 01:26:04,060
Second. Thank you. All in favor.

1047
01:26:04,540 --> 01:26:07,460
All right. We are adjourned.

1048
01:26:07,500 --> 01:26:08,880
At eight thirty five p.m.