[0:00] according to
[0:04] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[0:08] republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:12] justice for all.
Okay, everyone's having a nice summer
[0:21] so far. Just got back from Philadelphia.
Spent the 4th of July right downtown
[0:27] Independence Hall. It's pretty cool.
Yeah,
[0:31] it was it was
>> it was over the top America. It was
[0:35] crazy.
>> I couldn't believe the things they were
[0:38] doing. They had all the revolutionary
people. They had flyovers. They had
[0:43] bands. I mean, it was just everywhere
you go. It was like,
[0:47] » it was great. It was great.
>> Saw the fireworks where we went to the
[0:51] Delaware where Washington crossed with
his army and they had a barge out there
[0:55] with the fireworks going off. So, we
watched it right at the I was like,
[0:59] "Wow, history is slow." Anyway,
>> okay. Has everyone looked at the bills?
[1:04] You need a minute still, Bernardet? Any
questions?
[1:06] » I've been asking questions.
>> You got you got any more?
[1:09] » No.
>> Okay. I'll approve of the bills.
[1:13] » I'll make a motion to approve the bills.
>> I'll second it.
[1:16] » Okay. All in favor? I oppose. All right.
Pass.
[1:23] » Okay. Um, approval of the June 10th
meeting minutes.
[1:28] » I'll make a motion to approve the June
10th meeting minutes.
[1:31] » I'll second in favor.
>> Opposed?
[1:34] » Passed.
Okay. Reports. Um, my report. Lots
[1:39] happened. Lots gone. So, um, I'll just
kind of go through the highlights. The
[1:45] grants, pretty much all of those are
still in, uh, there isn't really any
[1:48] moving, right, Courtney?
>> That's right. you know. So,
[1:53] um Joe and Courtney have been meeting uh
regularly on electric. So, I'll let them
[1:58] kind of update when it gets to Courtney
as to how that's going for our
[2:03] substation.
Um so, after the North Terra emergency,
[2:08] I and I called a meeting with the J
County Emergency Management. um invited
[2:14] uh Virgin Town Supervisor Ernie Haywood
uh Virgin Fire Department's uh deputy
[2:22] chief Gary and um
Courtney of course was here as well. We
[2:29] just discussed the emergency. We kind of
talked about like just the timeline of
[2:34] events, what occurred, what
[clears throat] happened over at Nortra,
[2:38] you know, who in the county declares an
emergency, just kind of getting some
[2:43] real good knowledge about how this all
works. Um, when an emergency is
[2:47] declared, how do we get notified? How
does the town get notified? How do our
[2:51] residents get notified? There was a lot
of concern from various residents in our
[2:56] community and business owners that they
weren't notified of a stay in place
[2:59] order. um that was issued by the Jennese
County Emergency Management actually was
[3:05] issued by the fire department and then
of course at the advice of Jennese
[3:10] County Emergency Management. So we
talked about that whole thing. Um
[3:16] what happened up at North Terra was
simply a ammonia leak that was quickly
[3:21] contained. There was a dispersement of
ammonia in the village. Um it was
[3:26] evidence of people who were out. You
could smell it. It was pretty
[3:29] overwhelming for a few moments. There
wasn't any um damage or or injuries to
[3:37] anybody, you know, at at the site, the
fire, first responders, any of those
[3:42] folks, any of our community residents.
Nobody nobody reported injuries or
[3:47] damage or anything. So, that's a great
thing. Um
[3:51] the stay in place order was issued and
basically
[3:57] um sent over social media. There wasn't
like a phone notification or an amler
[4:03] not notification, anything like that. It
was simply
[4:07] uh social media. Jennese County
Emergency Management has their web page
[4:12] and they issued it there. Um, Courtney
uh was alerted by the Burgeon Fire
[4:17] Department and our team here quickly uh
notified on our Facebook page and our
[4:23] website page
and uh that's kind of and then from
[4:28] there it was word of mouth really. Um
they came and they shut down a few areas
[4:34] of streets. They put up some you know
some fire department workers and I don't
[4:40] what do they call them? police or the
count fire
[4:43] » who closed off you know mostly on the
you know church street and those places
[4:48] over here going up towards North Terra
>> and just blocked off the area that was
[4:53] you know for safety. The you know their
big thing was making sure that something
[4:58] small like a release of gas can turn
into like a huge you know combustible
[5:05] because they have big tanks up there a
lot of a lot of ammonia and it could be
[5:08] very dangerous.
So, we talked about all that, what the
[5:12] response is. So, for notifications, I've
got that on my um on our agenda. I'll
[5:18] I'll kind of go into that as we get down
that a little bit.
[5:23] But the good news is there's some plans
in [snorts] the works. Um the next steps
[5:28] are for us to meet with Nortra. Uh we
believe that they have a piece to play
[5:34] in this that they should have some
notification of some type. They did have
[5:37] a little slight alarm system, some light
systems, but we're going to talk about
[5:42] how they can enhance that and what they
can do to help us if they're having
[5:47] emergencies like that. They did things
really well up there. Um Carlos and his
[5:51] team evacuated the the guys out of
there, the workers quickly. Um that was
[5:56] their first priority, which is really
nice. They did a great job. Um so
[6:01] overall um you know despite the
communication errors I think every went
[6:08] pretty well you know from the
communication from the town the village
[6:13] Jennese County Emergency Management Fire
Department staging areas that they set
[6:18] up the police departments that were here
state and local uh law enforcement. The
[6:22] communication was at least good overall
on our part. We wish there was a little
[6:28] more communication with our office which
lacked
[6:31] » so we talked about that
makes sense about right
[6:37] » anything to add okay
>> whatever we talk about with no for
[6:44] » notification or change or whatever it
ends up being would that also apply to
[6:50] » the industrial park so
>> or any other
[6:53] » so what we were told is that Norta is
the only plant that has the chemicals
[6:58] that would cause a community
endangerment.
[7:02] » Okay. The other facilities, it would be
internal like a fire within their
[7:05] facilities. Nothing could be released
into the community.
[7:09] » So, Nortra, because their ammonia is
used to quickly freeze vegetables.
[7:14] That's what it's used for. It's it's
chemical gas and in high doses, it can
[7:18] cause a lot of damage. Um, and uh no
other facility has those types of
[7:25] chemicals. That's what the county told
us.
[7:28] » So, us and is it Oakfield or Elbow that
have Oakfield?
[7:32] » Oak Oakfield.
>> So, there's two plants in the county and
[7:35] they're looking at now the county is
looking at notification systems for our
[7:39] areas
>> um for those and other areas outside of
[7:43] Burchin that might have, you know, other
facilities that are have those types of
[7:48] chemicals, but those are the two that
they're aware of.
[7:51] So, we wouldn't have to have a
notification system or a stay in place
[7:54] or anything like that for any of the
other facilities up there.
[8:00] So, that was a good question and I made
sure that was asked because we I was
[8:03] also concerned about that.
Make sense?
[8:07] » Yeah.
>> Okay. The one thing that was in our
[8:09] favor that day was the fact that the
wind was coming from the east,
[8:12] » right? That's exactly what they said.
>> It prevented it from blowing into the
[8:16] village.
>> Right.
[8:18] So there were other out of that came
other questions too like um
[8:23] what happens if a train blows through
[laughter]
[8:25] you know who's notifying CSX you know
that there's a huge ammonia leak and if
[8:29] you bring a train it's just going to
>> just whip it around
[8:32] » whip it around you know so it's like you
know
[8:35] » were there no trains during that time
>> there weren't there weren't but um so we
[8:39] talked about the chain of command on all
of those issues
[8:43] » you know that is so an event a declared
emergency other than me declaring ing an
[8:48] emergency, which I have the authority to
do. Um, we defer to the state and local
[8:54] officials. We defer to Jes County
Emergency Management. We defer to the
[8:57] fire department. If there was an
evacuation, the fire department and all
[9:00] of the other surrounding areas with
their assistance would come through
[9:04] doortodoor and do what they needed to
do, right? Um, that's extreme, you know,
[9:09] but it could possibly be something and
they're planning for it. You know, the
[9:14] other good thing is that the fire
department actually did um an exercise
[9:18] up at North Terra that Monday night. So
that that Monday night they did an
[9:23] exercise up with North Terra and then
Wednesday the emergency happened. So
[9:27] their folks were already like they just
been there. So they were it was it was
[9:32] it was awesome. [laughter]
>> So and they say they do that every year.
[9:35] they go up and they do like a um just a
a practice a drill, you know, go through
[9:41] their facilities, see where everything
is, you know, so it it just worked out
[9:45] really well.
>> So, I have reached out to uh Carlos and
[9:49] I I can't pronounce the other guy's
name, but and just send him an email
[9:52] say, "Hey, we'd like to just meet and
they they're going to get some times
[9:55] back together for me."
>> Um and we I'll have another discussion
[9:59] with them and just kind of go through
the same questions and things like that.
[10:03] And and Ernie's on board with us. He
They have a part to play as well. The
[10:08] town
>> Mike, what about the CSX trains?
[10:13] » Yes,
>> I remember years ago we had a chlorine
[10:15] leak, I believe. We had to evacuate the
village.
[10:19] » Yeah, we talked about that as well. So,
um
[10:23] » we we discussed it, Joe, but we didn't
finalize it. So, what they did say is
[10:27] that it's it's Jennese County Emergency
Management would notify CSX of anything
[10:32] that they needed to shut down trains
for.
[10:35] » Okay.
>> But that's always the biggest fear is
[10:37] some type of derailment here, you know,
um what would occur, you know, because
[10:41] there's oil and gas and all those kinds
of things on those things,
[10:46] » you know. So, um
>> that's like a different kind of
[10:50] » that's a different kind of emergency.
That's extreme. um you know and in in
[10:55] the event of that I'm assuming they
would we would add all state resources
[10:58] would be here you know and that type of
a thing but you know I don't
[11:03] » you still need a call system
>> yeah yeah so and I'll get to that there
[11:06] is we have a plan
[11:10] um I did I spoke with a lot of residents
about it um some of the businesses here
[11:15] locally sent and I want to thank the
village office staff because they were
[11:20] fielding calls and people walking in
although is a stay in place order. We
[11:25] still had folks, you know, wandering
around and coming in and trying to get
[11:28] their information, but the office did
take some calls that were not so
[11:33] friendly. Um, and they handled it with
professionalism and Renee and Barb and
[11:37] Courtney did a great job. Fielded about
20 25 calls, 30 calls. Um, I actually
[11:42] kept the office open till 8:00 that
night.
[11:45] » Um, I staffed it. I was here. Um, I took
several calls and met with people as
[11:50] they came in if they came in. Uh the
sheriffs were right out front um
[11:54] directing people away. So that was just
something that I felt was necessary for
[11:58] that night. Um
>> you can call us if you need help.
[12:02] » Yeah. Yeah. It was one of those things I
just you know it was just learning you
[12:06] know.
>> Oh yeah.
[12:07] » Um and and that is basically I did talk
to Bob as well. I said in in these types
[12:13] of situations as elected officials, it
would be very nice if you folks could
[12:18] reach out and just say how can I help?
what can I do?
[12:22] » Um, we had a situation where there were
people calling complaining instead of
[12:26] offering assistance
>> and that doesn't make it easy,
[12:30] especially when they either work for us,
you know, or they're part of our
[12:33] governmental system. Um, really, please
just offer your assistance and see what
[12:39] you can do. Reach out and you might not
even get to notice. You know, I don't
[12:43] know if either of you were noticed other
than social media.
[12:45] » I was at work, right? And I got a text
from my neighbor at like right
[12:49] » 5:30 p.m.
>> Right. Yeah. I didn't know anything
[12:52] about it.
>> So, I just stayed at work
[12:54] » for another hour or two before I came
home.
[12:56] » And my wife called me at 37, can I come
home now? I said, "Sure."
[13:00] I said, "Come home on Friday."
[laughter] No.
[13:05] Um, so anyway, we're working on a plan.
Uh, once I meet with North Terra, I'm
[13:10] planning to just do a little write up.
You know, this is all the events. This
[13:13] is all we did. This is what occurred.
This is kind of where we're at. um
[13:16] that'll be sent out.
Um summer concert series, you guys all
[13:21] know that. Um
I've also met with the village office
[13:26] staff to discuss our social media
applications. Um
[13:31] just looking at what we post after this
incident, what we use and uh other
[13:37] possibilities out there. We just talked
overall about, you know, where we're
[13:40] posting, how we're posting, who's
posting, what our policies are, what our
[13:45] legalities are. There are a lot of
legalities, believe it or not. Some of
[13:49] them like, do you keep comments on? Do
you keep comments off?
[13:52] » Um, is that restricting free speech? Is
that not, you know what I mean? All of
[13:55] that stuff has to be discussed with the
municipality, right? We're not just
[13:58] someone, you know, guy in our basement
posting stuff. We're we are legally
[14:03] responsible for our speech, right?
So, we're we've reached out to some
[14:08] attorneys. We've got policy books. We're
looking at it all. But the bottom line
[14:12] is I want to have an improved social
media presence in the village of Burge.
[14:17] I think our systems are archaic. Um, and
our office staff are now empowered to do
[14:23] a lot more, especially with our summer
concert series, our our, you know,
[14:28] farmers market, all the things we're
doing. I want to get this out to the to
[14:33] the public and get people invested and
get likes and follows and all that good
[14:36] stuff. And Rene's taken that bull by the
horn and she's on it and she's creating
[14:42] things and doing things and it's looking
great. So, if you aren't following the
[14:45] village Facebook page or the website,
please do so. We're linking Facebook
[14:51] also to Instagram. Um, we've had younger
people ask for that. Um, and we're
[14:56] looking at perhaps other ways, social
media, that we can capture some of the
[15:00] younger, [clears throat] excuse me,
generations because they don't use
[15:04] those, they don't use the babies we use.
>> So, [clears throat] that's all in the
[15:10] works as well. In addition, uh, my last
comment there, I there was some power
[15:15] outages in the in the village um over a
long weekend. You guys experienced them.
[15:20] There were probably two, if not three
after that high wind event on a
[15:26] Thursday. Um, and I was unable to post
on our social media. So, that kind of
[15:31] got me. I was wanting to put things out
pretty much immediately like, hey, this
[15:35] is going on. It's like night, you know,
we're aware, you know, we contacted, you
[15:39] know, our electrical crew. They were
coming in, they were working, they were
[15:42] looking for it, but I want the folks to
know because, you know, if you have
[15:45] cellular data, you can still follow and
that's where everybody goes, right? So,
[15:49] I wanted posts to say, "Hey, we're
working on it. We're aware, you know,
[15:52] because I'm seeing complaints, you know,
on social media. Why? Why does this keep
[15:56] happening on me?" So, um, that's another
reason we allowed all of us to have
[16:02] access to be able to post. I would only
post in an extreme emergency, that type
[16:07] of a thing, you know, to get a quick
quick message out. Luckily, that night
[16:11] Barb reached out to me and like, "Hey,
do you want me to post anything?" And
[16:14] she did. You know, she was posting for
me, she was setting it all. So, it
[16:17] worked out really nice. So, um, but I
don't expect the office staff to be, you
[16:21] know, at night back in call 24/7 if
things are going on. So, um, as a result
[16:27] of that electrical thing, you know,
we've enhanced some of our ability to
[16:32] let the community know what's going on,
just so you're all aware. And if you
[16:35] ever need something posted as well,
you're welcome to reach out and, you
[16:39] know, clarify us and we'll get things
out there or if you think something
[16:42] should be posted, you know, or you want
something to be more posted or something
[16:46] like that. Courtney, that phone number
that we hear for electrical outages, is
[16:50] that that a waste of money now at this
point? Is it being utilized?
[16:55] » Well, Joe, I guess I would say that um
you know, the lineman
[17:01] can post information there if they want
to. They can post it, you know, but it's
[17:07] hard when you know they're, you know,
how long it takes them from to get from
[17:11] their house to here, right? So, if it
takes them, if they're even if they're
[17:15] home sitting there and they're ready to
walk out the door, it's going to take
[17:18] them 20 minutes to get here,
>> right? And in that 20 minutes, they've
[17:21] already received 20, 30 phone calls.
>> So, they don't even know what's wrong.
[17:25] So, do we want them to stop what they're
doing and make a recording and say, "We
[17:30] don't know what's wrong, but we'll let
you know when there is, you know, or go
[17:34] out and find out what's wrong." So, they
takes 20 minutes to get here. And how
[17:37] long is going to take them to assess the
problem and find the problem?
[17:40] » Yeah. Another at least 20 minutes,
right? So they are 40 45 minutes in
[17:45] before they know it's the problem is to
put it on there to let everybody know
[17:50] what they think that it's going to be.
And then you know then they you know
[17:54] they got to fix it and who knows how
long time it's going to take. So I I
[17:59] guess it to me that number should be for
times where we're going to be out for an
[18:06] extended period of time. If it's like a
a normal outage where oh crap a broker
[18:12] breaker flipped over here we got to go
whatever and send your out without power
[18:17] for an hour I don't really think that's
what the number is meant for because
[18:20] there's no way we can utilize it in that
time period. Um so you know if something
[18:26] happens with grid or we have a big ice
storm where we need to keep the people
[18:30] informed for you know a whole day or two
days of the power out. I think that's
[18:35] what that number is really best used
for.
[18:37] » Okay.
>> Um you know a lot of people say well I
[18:39] call the emergency number first. But
again you know their their first their
[18:44] first responsibility is to get in here
and assess the problem get it up and
[18:48] running first. I think the residents
would appreciate that but
[18:54] And this is a phone number that's listed
on the website or something.
[18:56] » Found the electric bill, I believe.
>> We do have it advertised in different
[19:00] places. And some people do know about
and call, but normally they just go
[19:04] right to the the personal number that's
listed and call directly.
[19:09] » Um, but you know, if that's something we
would want the lineman to do to just put
[19:14] every time, you know, before they leave
home be like, you know, we realize
[19:17] there's a power outage and we're
assessing the issue. Um, that will, you
[19:22] know, put put that into a you know
policy where it's case but again you
[19:27] know you don't know if power is going to
be out for an hour 15 minutes or 6 hours
[19:32] » and it was years and years before the
power like hadn't gone out
[19:36] » right
>> now
[19:38] » yeah I mean it seems to be a little more
frequent lately um this incident here
[19:43] seemed to be after the high winds a
branch or so what happens is a branch or
[19:47] a tree whacks that wire and it can trip
a breaker right and then uh they go
[19:52] » Oh they go reset the breaker and then
they may never know where that tree was
[19:56] because it's on the ground by then. You
know what I mean? Like it literally
[19:59] fell, hit the wire, then fell to the
ground and that trip once that wire gets
[20:03] whacked, it gets tripped. And we think
that happened two times in the village.
[20:07] So Eric or not Eric Nick went through
>> they literally did a visual of every
[20:13] line, you know, all weekend they were
here um and could not literally find
[20:19] anything that physically looked broken
or wrong.
[20:23] » So that was the result of that at this
moment, you know,
[20:26] » but there's some there's some way that
you guys know the power's out before
[20:30] someone calls, right? There's an alarm
out
[20:34] » goes out [laughter] and then one
>> power goes out.
[20:37] » Yeah. They get a notice.
>> When the power goes out in the
[20:40] substation, it it's got an auto dialer
on it.
[20:43] » Oh.
>> And u as long as it kicks out. Um
[20:51] but in that situation,
the power to that section didn't go out.
[20:57] Just the residential section went out.
North Terra stayed on because they're on
[21:02] two separate feeders, se two separate
main transformers.
[21:07] So they they didn't go out. So that
thing never called out. So that I called
[21:12] I called Nick and he got a hold of Matt
>> cuz he wouldn't know that. He wouldn't
[21:18] know it was out.
>> The
[21:21] residents are almost as fast as the auto
dialer.
[21:24] » That's wonder. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[21:26] » I've got calls at 2 three in the
morning. the power's out.
[21:29] » I get
>> call you directly.
[21:31] » Oh yeah.
>> I get I get call I get texts within
[21:34] minutes of the outage saying
>> you know what's wrong when this power
[21:38] couldn't come on like how how is it even
if we had people stationed here 24 hours
[21:44] a day sitting at the station. They
couldn't assess what's wrong that
[21:48] quickly.
>> Right.
[21:49] » Right. So it's just it's just what's
what happened when it come back on. Well
[21:54] it's been 10 minutes. Um,
>> yeah,
[21:57] » they had it on within hours. I mean, it
was it was pretty quick and then, you
[22:01] know, then it went off again on Sunday,
I think it was for an hour, maybe.
[22:06] » Something interesting. Courtney knows
about this. Akan is a municipal electric
[22:11] also. And Tom, the uh the leader there,
the foreman, he called and talked to
[22:18] Nick, okay?
>> He heard about us on the news and he
[22:21] said, "You know what, Nick? We had that
happen a few years back. We had an
[22:26] ammonia leak and it knocked our electric
out.
[22:29] » Oh,
>> something about
[22:31] » ammonia.
>> It's heavy and it gets around the
[22:33] insulators and
>> that was that weekend after.
[22:37] » That's interesting.
>> Well, that's when it went out. And we
[22:39] couldn't we we
>> and for it to go out how it did, it had
[22:43] to be a section from the from the street
to here and there was nothing no dead
[22:48] bird. No,
>> but that's where that ammonia was mainly
[22:53] going down because Huh?
>> My wife was walking down Gibson. She got
[22:57] a full width width of it going down
Gibson and that's where that station is,
[23:00] that section of line is that would kick
>> and he claims that it knocked their
[23:05] electric out.
>> Okay.
[23:07] » So,
>> that could have been that.
[23:09] » As crazy as that sounds, um they
couldn't find anything. So,
[23:14] » all right.
>> That's interesting.
[23:15] » Yep.
>> And it was it just hap I mean it's an
[23:19] odd thing that happened immediately
after
[23:22] » league. So,
>> yeah. and unexplainable at that.
[23:25] » This was like three days later.
>> It was. Yeah, it was that. Well,
[23:28] Thursday was
>> It wasn't that Thursday was the
[23:30] windtorm, was it?
>> So, one week later,
[23:35] right? Because the emergency was on
Wednesday. Was the windstorm on
[23:38] Thursday?
[23:41] » I don't know. I don't remember. Was it
Did it windtorm?
[23:45] » I think it did. It coincided with the
windstorm because we had people I had
[23:49] people asking me. I'm like, "We just had
a major windstorm on Thursday, guys." I
[23:52] mean, kind of shake,
>> you know. I know. We don't know exactly
[23:55] what it is, but you got to expect
there's something maybe possibly
[24:00] loosening up. We're getting 80 mph winds
or
[24:03] » we don't have We do a really good job of
tree trimming here.
[24:06] » Yeah. The infrastructure is great.
>> So, we keep a lot of stuff away from it,
[24:09] right?
>> But I can tell you from, you know, being
[24:12] where I live, there's so many dead ash
trees everywhere
[24:15] » that they're they're just going to keep
on falling. There's millions of these
[24:18] dead ash trees. There's one been sitting
on the wire up by the train tracks for
[24:23] like a year up in the town. The past
trees have been laying on it for a year.
[24:27] » They're still going to keep falling for
quite a long time and taking power out.
[24:31] » Not here in a village. We take care of
those, but outside of the village, it
[24:34] can affect our feeder lines and
definitely everybody else around the
[24:37] area.
>> Well, that's the first question. Is it
[24:39] us or is it somewhere outside of us? So,
that's the first thing we always ask,
[24:44] you know, and if it's and that's what
we'll post. Look, it's not it's not
[24:47] within the village. outside, you know,
so we'll get that information out there.
[24:51] We're talking about all those ways to
notify during those emergencies. So,
[24:55] it's good. You know, we're updating.
We're getting it brought up to 2026,
[24:59] we'll get our information out there
better. Um, and going back to the phone
[25:03] number thing, Joe, I I don't know if
it's I don't I don't think it really
[25:07] cost us anything. So to have it just in
case down the road something happens but
[25:12] you know in the f it might be you know
it might be outdated because of social
[25:17] media because that's what people look
>> and do people who know about it other
[25:20] than it being
>> there's a handful of people who do
[25:23] » I think if you're the type of person
that wants to do that you would look I
[25:27] would I never thought to look there
because I'm not
[25:29] » the numbers list
>> it's on electric bill it's on the
[25:32] website um years ago we did magnets and
we gave to everybody with important
[25:37] contact information and that number's on
there as well. So people who have those
[25:43] still on their on their on their
refrigerators have that there too. So
[25:48] there's there's
maybe a handful of people
[25:54] always fun people.
[26:01] » Would it make any sense to put on the
bill extended outages that number rather
[26:05] than
>> let's update that.
[26:07] » I think doesn't already said emergency
though.
[26:09] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. I mean
[26:11] » power going out it's not necessarily
emergency, right? So I guess we could
[26:14] word it differently.
rooms here. Extended holiday
[26:19] » extended extended. Yeah,
>> we'll look at that.
[26:23] » Uh farmers market kicked off really good
success. Um again, thanks to the office
[26:28] staff and park committee from planning,
coordination, hard work. Um the the
[26:33] Tavian was here. They put a nice article
in today.
[26:37] » So if you give a moment, read it. It's
really nice. Great pictures. Um lot of
[26:42] nice PR for farmers market. Nice picture
of Renee front and center. So, um, it's
[26:49] wonderful. Uh, I met with Joe, Courtney,
and Paul Osborne from Jennese County to
[26:54] discuss possible housing grants in the
village of Virgin and about an hour
[26:58] meeting about uh, state grant money
that's being released by the governor
[27:02] for improved housing throughout the
state. So, we talked about the reality
[27:07] of what that would look like and how to
access that and those types of things.
[27:13] Um Joe and Courtney, thank you for
meeting with the county of the sheriff's
[27:17] department. Um it's kind of a yearly
thing that's been going on in the
[27:21] village. Meeting with the sheriff's
talking about extra road patrols, our
[27:24] concerns in the village this year. It's
ebikes, um minibikes, kind of all over
[27:31] the place. Uh speed through the village.
Um
[27:38] » pretty much this.
>> Yeah, I did stress uh right tickets.
[27:42] Yeah,
>> you know, you don't want more tickets.
[27:46] » We want folks saying, "No, you're going
to be blue virgin, you're going to get
[27:49] that ticket." You want people to see
I was coming down from
[27:56] I call it Sugar Creek, but the 7-Eleven
coming down the village and I'm doing 34
[28:02] and there's two ebikes following me
right the whole way. Kids, no helmets,
[28:06] just the whole way down right into the
village. I turned, they kept going. I
[28:10] was like,
"What do you do?" And literally on the
[28:14] street right behind me. If I hit my
brakes, they probably ran into me. They
[28:18] followed me the whole way about 30.
>> They're everywhere.
[28:22] » Did you receive the uh info from the
sheriff? Not yet. About the bikes and
[28:27] the rules and regulations and what we
have to do to get it on our
[28:31] » Yeah. So, we can make some ordinances
and things like that. So we just ask
[28:36] them to if they see them talk to the
kids and people
[28:41] confiscate one if you have to
you know that word will spread so fast
[28:46] you know I think that's why we need the
we need
[28:50] » information so they can confiscate.
>> Yeah.
[28:53] » So we'll look at
um
[28:58] other than that that's it was it's been
a busy time. Any
[29:04] questions on my reporting?
[29:08] » Yeah, you've all read my report. So,
things roof repair the roof repair
[29:16] plant uh there.
Um roof's in good shape besides the the
[29:22] uh machines that blew off
putting the ventilation on it wasn't
[29:28] enough ventilation. So a lot of the
problem was moisture. We had some boards
[29:35] and back space.
[29:40] Now there's six of those spinning
on there.
[29:56] Off the agent was here this week. We got
really good turnout.
[30:02] Farmers market will also be out next
Tuesday. The farmer markets
[30:09] you know we got our farm market
[30:16] things like that. So I would go to
so
[30:23] well if I come there
[30:33] um should be in my course for quite some
time
[30:37] ended on May 31st. So uh work on to get
closed and all that
[30:46] there
programs began. Uh it's going really
[30:49] well. Um Natalie Hudson is the leader
[30:55] going well. I'm not getting anything
done.
[30:58] No work. No news. Just everything goes
on and every day I go get the lunches to
[31:05] school and drop them off to her. Great.
Well, so we got an average of 20 25 kids
[31:14] every day.
[31:18] The grant writers um Jesse County has
once again has the money for grant
[31:24] writing. Um
[31:30] side money on last year we used it for
joint comprehensive plan going forward
[31:38] that again
[31:46] was break down with us in town's
paying for it this year because we paid
[31:52] for it last year or if we're splitting
We we split the cost to have it
[31:58] resubmitted already
because we we submitted the grant
[32:03] application. It got turned down
[clears throat] and then we went half
[32:07] and half. I think 1,500 each.
>> Was that last year?
[32:11] » It was so they could resubmit it.
>> So that would be this.
[32:17] » So that's a different that's this grant
not the following grant which was these
[32:22] » for the comprehensive plan. Okay. So, I
guess that money is that's $5,000 to do
[32:28] other grants. If there's other grants
that um you guys can think of,
[32:33] » they do come through your emails every
once in a while. Other we'll see them
[32:36] out there. So, if you guys browse them,
see anything that you think is even
[32:39] interesting. Um send them my way. We'll
review them and if we think it's, you
[32:44] know, worth it, we'll propose it to you
guys.
[32:46] » We get a hold like Eric Weiss.
>> Okay.
[32:49] » See if there's any.
>> Right. Well, Eric White, Labella,
[32:53] » Jeff Smith, too. I know you know he's
been working on a grant for the match
[32:57] for the million dollar
infrastructure bicycle infrastructure
[33:02] grant. So, that might be easier.
>> Yeah, you guys streets are joining
[33:08] through
>> and I just I I just popped in my head
[33:11] just to you guys know we still haven't
got the bill for the project back here.
[33:16] » So, I don't know what's going on. I
mean, if they don't if they want to do
[33:19] it for free and never built it, then
hunky dory. Um, but uh time I talked to
[33:25] uh Eric Weiss about it, they just they
don't they haven't come to terms with
[33:31] the people, I guess.
>> Wow. Do you crew for stuff like that or
[33:35] you just wait? [clears throat]
>> Yeah, we have to come
[33:40] on,
[33:44] but
>> we get a purchase order.
[33:50] » I don't know. No, I don't I don't if we
did a purchase to
[33:53] » that was kind of an emergency,
>> right? Because we didn't expect to have
[33:57] to do all the well drilling and stuff.
But as part of the EFC funding, too, and
[34:03] changes things
>> part of the whole project. So I don't
[34:07] think we do numbers for a large project
like that
[34:11] [clears throat]
>> budget for last year or this year
[34:14] because now we crossed over.
>> Yeah. And so I think we were always
[34:17] going to take that money out appropriate
fund balance because there wasn't any
[34:21] budget um and it would have had to come
out of the sewer budget and there's no
[34:25] money in the sewer budget to pay that
extra what $70,000 they quoted us. Um,
[34:30] so that was going to come out the
general budget. So we talked about
[34:35] unappropriated fund balance paying that,
but then they inflated it well over 70
[34:40] because they underestimated, you know,
how bad it was, even though we told them
[34:45] before they touched the ground that
that's what they were going to run into.
[34:48] Um, and suffering that first. Um, they
just didn't believe us and um, and what
[34:55] six balls around it, something like
that.
[34:59] So they were overund what 25,000 they
wanted something like that
[35:04] » to GPS all the coordinates now where all
the casings are. So
[35:09] 30 40 years from now when they got to do
it again
[35:15] [laughter]
>> cuz I remember they did it some 40 years
[35:18] back. I don't that's how we knew what
they were going to run into.
[35:24] » So that's just opinion on that.
I'm going to blame it on the old
[35:28] administration.
>> No news is good news on that one. Uh the
[35:32] other thing is the uh the u this
building the HBAC is uh 18 years old. Um
[35:42] really right now it's just the air
conditioning has been a problem. The
[35:45] furnace has seen okay. Um the air
exchangers out back. Um so um they've
[35:52] been twice this year they've came out to
fix it. Haven't been major things. um
[35:56] what they want to do maintenance on it.
Um clean things up, some of the
[36:01] connections that's 16, a little over
$1,600. Um so I guess the question is,
[36:06] do we want to just kind of do the
maintenance and see how long it takes us
[36:10] or do we want to get some quotes on what
it takes to replace that?
[36:15] » Is there some people find a grapple?
>> I doubt that.
[36:20] » Can we use beep funds?
>> Possibly. Some
[36:24] » some of them. I mean, you know, the beef
funds for that for rebate for a
[36:30] commercial or residential business is
like a thousand,000
[36:34] something.
>> I would personally I'd get the
[36:36] maintenance done and then start digging
into where where we can go from there
[36:42] long
>> term.
[36:45] » Are you recommending some some quotes
done?
[36:47] » Oh, yeah. I'm definitely, you know, get
the get the maintenance done and then
[36:50] start seeking quotes to, you know,
replace it, move forward. I agree.
[36:55] » Doesn't mean we have to replace it
immediately.
[36:58] » No, but at least you know where you're
going.
[36:59] » Yeah,
>> it's 18 years old. Probably a life what
[37:03] 20 years.
>> Yeah, it's got to be done with soon. But
[37:05] I mean, at least we can get some quotes
and some ideas.
[37:08] » Yeah. Get some quotes.
>> That's for this whole building or just
[37:11] the office space?
>> Uh these two spaces, the office and the
[37:14] boardroom space.
the one there's two furnaces and two air
[37:19] handlers that the lobby the boardroom
and then the back is done by one and
[37:24] then the other one is for the office and
all the offices is the second one.
[37:29] » How how soon does the maintenance have
to be done? It's just routine
[37:33] maintenance is what it is.
>> It's all working right now. Um so there
[37:37] are some things they recommend because
they feel like the last problems that
[37:43] were caused by the connectors and
things back there.
[37:47] » I just hate spending $1,600 if you get
some quotes and we're going to replace
[37:51] it if it's not something that needs to
be addressed immediately.
[37:56] » Who do we use?
>> Who do we use?
[37:58] » Triple O, but in a case of um
three.
[38:04] » Okay.
>> Yeah. You mean just to assess how bad or
[38:08] the necessity for the maintenance is to
begin with and then go from there? Do
[38:12] they recommend a full replacement or do
they say like
[38:16] » Loki did that you got another five years
on it or something like that?
[38:19] » Do we have routine maintenance done
every year?
[38:22] » We don't have yearly
but it turns out to be yearly that
[38:27] something goes breaks down the fix.
>> What budget would that come out of?
[38:33] » All three.
>> All three. Yeah.
[38:35] » All three. This this space has every
bill for this space has a percentage
[38:40] breakdown based on what it's being used
for.
[38:48] » What do you all want?
>> How long does it take to get quotes?
[38:59] » Let's do that.
Yeah, let's get some quotes
[39:03] » for a replacement and then we're going
to have to do the maintenance, but you
[39:06] know, if the if the cost is 4,000,
>> then we're going to spend 1,600 for
[39:11] maintenance.
>> Let's do the 4,000.
[39:15] » I'm sure it'll be much more just
I know. You never know.
[39:21] » So, that's okay.
>> That's what I got for now.
[39:24] » Um, do you guys mind updating where we
are in the substation?
[39:27] » Yeah, Joe. Uh we we meet every two
weeks. Uh we have a [snorts]
[39:33] webinar at national every two weeks.
>> Um the last meeting uh two big things
[39:40] that came out of or uh they looked at
the increase of the oxbow load
[39:46] u the projected load and uh they were
okay with that.
[39:50] » Okay.
>> So that was huge. Um,
[39:53] and u they're looking at the uh they
said they're uh going to be able to
[39:59] tweak their settings
a little bit which is what we need.
[40:04] » Okay.
>> Um our engineers been trying to get them
[40:08] to tweak it so it's not the so the
coordination isn't so tight
[40:12] » and they said there is room to do that.
So, they're hoping by this next phone
[40:17] call that we have with them that uh they
would have their their engineer would
[40:22] have the uh where they're at with that.
>> Okay.
[40:25] » Um and he said that uh the other thing
the third thing here is the uh
[40:33] um switching from the steel structure
there 345 feed coming in is currently
[40:40] connected onto our steel structure. the
sub. We need to get that off there and
[40:44] move it over to our new structure uh
which is a wood pole wood pole line. And
[40:50] they're uh they're okay with that, but
they're thinking that they're probably
[40:54] going to have to set a new pole because
they don't like the idea of their pole
[40:58] being as close as it is right now to our
pole. So, they've got their
[41:04] their end looking at that for
engineering how they want to where they
[41:07] want to set that new pole. So, we're
hoping by this this meeting coming up
[41:12] Thursday that uh
>> have an answer.
[41:15] » We'll have the answers and uh that's the
hold up right now. Uh we can't start any
[41:20] work inside that substation
>> until that power
[41:23] » site work until we get that power off
off the station and moved over. So, it
[41:27] completely kills that station so the
contractor can get in there and demolish
[41:32] everything in there.
It's going to take uh a substantial
[41:37] outage. um I would think on a Sunday
uh probably like 8 8 in the morning. Uh
[41:44] when this does happen, we don't have a
date yet when it's going to happen.
[41:47] We're still waiting for, like I said,
the coordination study
[41:52] um from National Grid.
>> We can't get into cold weather. So,
[41:55] » no, no, it should be.
>> Yeah,
[41:58] » it should be I'm thinking probably maybe
even in August.
[42:03] » Okay.
>> Late August, maybe. Okay. Uh but it's
[42:08] it's got to be coordinated with National
Grid uh and the New York Power Authority
[42:12] to make when when the systems all when
it's switched over, they have to come in
[42:17] and power authority that is and and hook
up all their new metering because right
[42:22] now it's going through the old state old
station. So they to get we've got all
[42:27] the new
all the new equipment in place and
[42:31] they've already come out and looked at
it all and it's set to go, but they have
[42:34] to tie it into the control house so that
when they switch the lines over, they
[42:39] can start metering, you know, the
village's usage. So it's it's going to
[42:43] be a coordinated effort here. Uh but uh
it's definitely probably be an eight
[42:48] hour outage. I would think things I
would doubt it. It's not
[42:52] » eight eight hours anyway. I'm just
>> Okay.
[42:55] » But uh again, that date has not been set
yet.
[42:58] » Okay.
>> And as soon as it is, we'll get that
[43:00] out.
>> Yeah.
[43:02] » Customers.
>> Okay.
[43:04] » So hopefully after our [clears throat]
next phone
[43:09] meeting with them, we'll have some more
answers for you.
[43:13] » Okay. Thanks, Joe.
>> Uh new cameras are up in the park.
[43:18] » Okay. How's the new system working?
>> Great. It's a very good system.
[43:24] better clear pictures and we can zoom in
pretty good back there compared to the
[43:28] old big foot cameras we had. So most of
the part is covered good
[43:36] cameras
and the cellular system was installed.
[43:41] So we should be able get on and see live
footage and review
[43:47] great pass footage without going up to
the bar standing in the back the
[43:52] bathroom. So I just sit there my
computer do it.
[43:55] » Nice. Very nice.
>> [clears throat]
[44:00] » Sounds good. We've actually diverted a
few vandalism attempts through the
[44:04] cameras. So
>> Oh, why didn't you talk through those?
[44:06] » Yeah, we found some people who did some
things and I went and talked to them and
[44:10] Courtney talked to them. So used but
>> we were able we were able to find the
[44:15] building.
>> Yeah, we were able to divert something.
[44:17] So
>> Courtney, do you have just a question on
[44:20] yours on the roof repairs? We got the
money in the budget to handle that or
[44:26] » I mean fix it or ruin the the
>> Well, I know it's got to be fixed, but
[44:32] I'm saying where's the money? Are we
have to take it out of our fund balance
[44:37] or
>> There's no fund balance in there. So,
[44:39] we'll have to do we'll put it in the
budget line and um do a budget transfer
[44:43] or
something like that to cover it.
[44:47] » I thought we had money in the store that
we could tap into.
[44:49] » There's there's a there's a little bit
of
[44:52] Yeah,
we can
[44:55] » put under buildings and then do a budget
transfer from contingency of that line.
[45:01] » Okay.
[45:04] » Okay. Any other questions for Courtney
or I
[45:09] busy month?
>> Yeah. I don't know the other roof that's
[45:12] on top of the office in the garage and
that's a like a tar rubber roof with
[45:19] flat with a stone on it. When that
starts to go,
[45:23] which it hadn't been repaired a number
of times in the last couple years,
[45:28] how do we go about that with all that
gravel on top of the road?
[45:34] And that just like shoveling all
[45:39] that's pretty old, too.
>> I'm trying to think what year that was
[45:42] put on.
>> Upstate roofing put that on. Okay. When
[45:45] » I was superintendent,
>> that's a long time.
[45:51] 12, 15, I don't know, 20 years ago.
>> That's up here. It's It's part of the
[45:59] sewer plan.
>> Oh, where the office and his office and
[46:03] the garage door is.
>> Let's shut that off and put the new
[46:08] rubber me down and put the stone back on
it.
[46:11] » Yeah.
[46:14] Okay. Any other questions? Okay. CO
report. Take a peek if you have any
[46:21] questions.
[46:26] » No questions.
[46:31] » Yep.
>> Make a motion to approve the officer's
[46:34] reports.
>> Second. Anybody?
[46:37] » Second.
>> Okay. All in favor?
[46:40] » I opposed. Okay. Passed.
Okay. Uh plaque presentation
[46:49] of concerns.
>> Oh, where? Oh, trustee concerns. Sorry,
[46:52] I it doesn't have something written on
it.
[46:56] » Okay, we'll start with Bernardet.
Anything on trustee concerns?
[46:59] » Uh no, I was just going to um ask
questions about the electric, but we
[47:03] talked about it.
>> Great.
[47:06] » Sure.
>> Um no concerns. I just want to say how
[47:10] beautiful downtown looks, the flags, the
flowers.
[47:13] » [clears throat]
>> Courtney
[47:15] may thank you.
>> All the guys. Yeah. Outstanding. Looks
[47:20] beautiful.
Todd,
[47:24] » um just u you know, I know we talked
about the ebike thing and I I I sent you
[47:28] that list of regulations you put on the
village website there. It's just I think
[47:33] we need more awareness for the parents
um of what's going on with these ebikes
[47:38] and all racing down the street doing
wheelies and obstructing traffic. It's
[47:43] it's it's got to come to a stop.
>> Yeah, I'll put a lot I'll put them in my
[47:46] newsletter for sure.
>> So, it was interesting to see some of
[47:51] there were some comments on the that
notice and a lot of them were
[47:55] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[47:56] » were
>> not were were negative, I guess.
[48:01] best way to say it. There were a lot of
>> on what notice the social media?
[48:03] » So, we sent up we sent out uh basically
a standard New York State ebike policy.
[48:10] » Um that just warned, you know, just you
got to be 16 to ride them, wear helmets,
[48:15] follow the rules of the road, you know,
anyone under 16, it's illegal to ride
[48:19] them on the road. You know, they could
be confiscated. those kinds of things,
[48:24] you know, just the rules, you know, just
awareness and, you know, there was
[48:30] just with that awareness, people were
like, you know, mind your own business
[48:34] and, you know, um, don't tell us what to
do or freedom, you know, the whole
[48:39] thing, you know. So,
>> there were some good comments, but, you
[48:42] know,
>> it's just it's just very interesting,
[48:46] you know, but you're right. It is
parents responsibility for 16 and under.
[48:49] Um,
>> you know, they're the ones buying these
[48:52] ebikes for the kids.
>> Yeah.
[48:54] » Yeah.
>> So, I'll put another I'll put a notice
[48:57] out there and we'll we'll rescend it.
We'll resend more updated ones. And that
[49:02] was another thing, you know, about
meeting with the sheriff's about that
[49:05] policy.
>> There's
[49:08] the the sheriff's um
[49:13] the sheriff's hands are tied a little
bit because there's no real standard.
[49:16] There's no law per se. It's policies
that are out there and each municipality
[49:21] can make their make their own policies,
right? So, we don't right now have any
[49:26] and that's what Joe was asking Courtney
about is that
[49:29] » the sheriffs were supposed to send us
some information about guidance of maybe
[49:35] setting standards or policies for the
village and what we would want to do and
[49:39] how far do we want to go with it and
things like that. You know what I mean?
[49:42] I'm not trying to restrict, you know,
people. I just want people to be safe,
[49:46] you know,
>> be aware.
[49:48] » Yeah. And when me and Joe met with them,
you know, this is something that's
[49:50] happening in every it's everywhere.
>> And, you know, and it's very hard for
[49:54] them, like you said, it's very hard for
them to do it because there's
[49:57] regulations, but also the reg state
regulations are, you know, based on
[50:01] speed and design and and these different
things. So, how can a police officer in
[50:06] a car look at a bike and be like, he
can't do that because that one is over
[50:10] this amperage. And so, but this one's
less than that amperage. So, it's you
[50:15] know, so he's so they have to try to
keep up with different models so they
[50:18] can like having how can you possibly
>> become an ebike expert to enforce the
[50:24] law
>> down the road. I see the state
[50:27] » having some [snorts] laws. I mean, it's
it's across the state and as they get
[50:32] bigger and more fast and I mean these
things go 40, 50, 60 miles an hour, you
[50:37] know,
>> you go through the tape there
[50:39] everywhere. You know what I mean? So,
it's it's just not unique here. It to me
[50:43] it's making parents and people aware of
>> What about adding a bike?
[50:49] » Oh, jeez. Well, we cut down into the
main roads.
[50:53] » So, the main roads are owned by the
state. So, 19 Buffalo are owned by the
[50:56] state. We couldn't do it in 237. They're
not our roads. We can only do it within
[51:02] » the side streets. And I don't wide
enough.
[51:04] » That's not That's not the problem,
[snorts]
[51:06] you know. The problem is,
>> you know, the main roads here.
[51:11] And just a side note is I've been here
16 years, which is
[51:15] » long, but not terribly long, but it's
long enough to have seen a half dozen of
[51:20] these type of situations with different
things,
[51:22] » right? And they all come and go, whether
it's ebikes, dirt bikes, dirt bikes, or
[51:28] just regular bicycles or skateboards or,
>> you know, there's always these things.
[51:34] There's always something new. It's
>> kind of fad
[51:36] » and then, you know, then we react to it
and pass a legislation and five years
[51:40] down it like,
>> you know, it's it's a it's a reactive
[51:44] kind of thing to a problem. But
>> in the end, it just kind of fad dies
[51:49] out. We're on to something else like
that.
[51:52] » And I do chat with the kids out there. A
lot of them congregate up by my house,
[51:56] guys. Just don't be drying them on the
streets, you know. I'll look out for
[51:59] you. Look out for me. Okay. Okay. You
know, so I mean, we're having
[52:02] conversations with them up there. I do
go up to the park, chat with the kids up
[52:05] there as well, you know, just take it
easy through the streets, keep my senior
[52:10] residents happy,
you know, and they're good. They're
[52:13] good. But they have questions. Well, can
we ride them on the road or sidewalk?
[52:17] And I'm like, I don't know. [laughter] I
don't know, you know. So, just things
[52:22] like that. I don't even know, you know.
>> I don't know where the parents are. And
[52:25] I'm, you know, I'm going up and down
Buffalo Street at 1:30 in the morning.
[52:28] » Yeah.
>> Up and down. Up and down. 1:30 in the
[52:31] morning. We're the parents of these
kids.
[52:33] » Yeah.
>> They're not that quiet.
[52:34] » Oh, they're not that quiet.
>> Well, the the day I sent that thing to
[52:37] Mike, a friend of mine had sent it to
me. I watching these two guys. I was in
[52:41] my front yard. They came off a Buffalo
Road down Rochester Street right down
[52:45] the middle of the road and there's this
one of those speed sensors right in
[52:48] front of my house and they they they
stop at 40 miles an hour and these guys
[52:52] went past that thing and it wouldn't
even go off.
[52:55] » They go right down the middle of the
road. No helmets, just going like a you
[52:59] know, going to bed out of hell.
>> Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Some
[53:02] getting hurt will be will be, you know,
the next
[53:06] » electric, but they're still they're
noisy. They're still noisy.
[53:09] » You can hear them when they're going
down the street.
[53:11] » Yeah.
>> Especially at night when everything's
[53:13] quiet, trying to sleeping. A window open
>> up and down and all that.
[53:19] » Okay. Any other trustee concerns?
Okay.
[53:24] All right. Now, new business, right? All
right. First thing first, uh I have a
[53:29] plaque presentation for Joe.
This is for his service as mayor.
[53:36] Um and how many years of service in the
village, Joe?
[53:42] » 32.
>> I don't Well, I started in 1990.
[53:47] » 1990
>> and I retired 2018.
[53:52] Yeah.
So 28 years been on the board as a
[53:57] trustee and then mayor. So
>> trustee
[54:00] » 28 30 34
35 years
[54:04] » 35 years I invited his wife and kids and
they all wanted to come but you were
[54:08] totally said I don't want you here. This
is grandson over to the library for
[54:14] some. Yeah, this [laughter]
>> believe me I I do appreciate.
[54:19] » So either way, here you go, Joe.
>> That's beautiful.
[54:22] » Presented to Joe M. What's the M?
>> Martin.
[54:25] » Martin uh Shenino in recognition of his
dedication, dedicated service, and
[54:30] outstanding leadership to the village of
Virgin. Your commitment and vision have
[54:34] made a lasting impact on the entire
community. With gratitude and best wish,
[54:37] best wishes 2026.
Stand up in front of the
[54:45] » side.
>> Did you guys match on purpose, too?
[54:47] You're out.
>> I maybe Yeah. [laughter]
[54:55] » Tilt it down just the hair. Joe,
>> good.
[54:59] » Have a glare.
>> Yep.
[55:00] » All right. Good job. [applause]
>> Thank you very much.
[55:06] Let me just say it was an honor to serve
as mayor. It really was. And uh
[55:13] to serve with the board members. Thank
you for all your support. And uh I can't
[55:20] thank Courtney enough.
>> Right.
[55:22] » Um Mike, you'll find out how valuable
this guy this guy is.
[55:25] » And uh I couldn't have done what I did
without Courtney. So and uh and the
[55:30] office staff and the employees. Courtney
was always memory in here.
[55:37] I just want to say thank you.
>> Nice.
[55:38] » Thank you, John.
>> Oh, thank you.
[55:40] » Thank you, John. That's a long service.
Still going. So,
[55:43] » very nice. Thank you. I'm glad I can
continue to serve.
[55:47] » Yeah, that's very thankful for that.
>> I gave you the box if you wanted it. If
[55:52] not, we can toss it. But there you go.
>> Beautiful. Thank you so much.
[56:00] » Okay.
[56:03] So notification system, I I pretty much
updated you on where we are, but just
[56:08] the the outcome of notifications. The
county emergency management system off
[56:13] or services also had uh questions posed
to them about notifications like when
[56:19] emergencies are declared, how are how's
the community notified, especially if
[56:23] it's a stay in place or how people know,
you know? So they use all the tools they
[56:29] can. They ask their partners like us,
the village and the town to also use all
[56:34] the tools we can. Um we talked about
where the failures were in the
[56:38] notifications. Um you know it was a
little delayed the information getting
[56:43] to our village staff, a little delayed
getting over to the town. Um it was
[56:48] declared but nobody knew what that meant
other than just stay you know. So we're
[56:53] like okay what does all that mean? So
people were concerned. And they were
[56:57] like, you know, I'm out in the yard with
my kids and I nobody told me, you know,
[57:01] and I could that was dangerous, you
know. Yeah, you're right. So, we talked
[57:06] about an alert system at Noera, a noise,
a light, but there were also negative.
[57:14] There's pros and cons of all of that.
You know, if an alarm goes out over
[57:17] there, is it a evacuate? Is it stay in
place? Is it a fire? You know, we don't
[57:24] know. So, we're talking about ways to
enhance all of those notifications. The
[57:28] county does have a a plan. It's called
uh phase one and it is a
[57:37] localized
uh notification system to cell phones.
[57:42] It's it pings a specific area. So, it
could ping a onem radius around the
[57:49] village of Virgin or perhaps include
part of the town or wherever they wanted
[57:53] to. they could go two miles, five miles,
however long or big they needed to go.
[57:57] » Um, they've been working with phase one
for a while on developing the system.
[58:02] Uh, Tim Jagger is reaching out to them
and uh getting phase one into place and
[58:10] we're going to do a test um in the
village and possibly the town um in
[58:17] either what they say September, October,
right? So there's first responders month
[58:22] month or something like that or what is
it called? Something like that.
[58:25] » Yeah. Yeah.
>> It's it's like a first responders month
[58:28] or so we're going to do it during that.
It's awareness month basically for you
[58:32] know change your batteries all those
kind of things in you. So, we're gonna
[58:35] we're gonna target uh with in
coordination with them to, you know, set
[58:40] up
train to set up a radius and we'll put
[58:46] alerts out to the village and it's going
to come across as an Amber alert or
[58:50] something like that. It would be a loud
there's a
[58:53] » there's an emergency declared in your
area, please go to social media.
[58:56] Basically, something like that.
>> That' be great.
[58:58] » I would suggest that they use a
different tone than the Amber Alert
[59:01] because when I hear that, I just dismiss
it. That's crazy,
[59:05] » right? So, whatever phase one uses,
that's what we'll use. I we'll we'll try
[59:09] it, test it, um and go from there. So,
then
[59:14] » then we'll have that uh then we'll have
discussions about how that went. Um
[59:19] we'll alert the community, ask for
feedback. Um the problem with that whole
[59:23] thing, everything will have a problem is
that if you're at work in Rochester,
[59:26] you're not in the pain area, you know.
So,
[59:29] » Oh, so it's only with the location of
the phone at that time.
[59:31] » Correct.
>> Oh, yeah. Interesting. He did say though
[59:33] that if if people travel into the zone
then they get
[59:37] » you would get it as well. Right. So it's
it's zone located.
[59:41] » So it's you know your phone your phone
entering in and out type thing.
[59:45] » It's not based on your home address
where that phone is.
[59:47] » No.
>> So we talked about that as well. Is
[59:50] there maybe a notification system where
people can register you know like I want
[59:54] even if I'm vacation Florida I want the
notification that there's an emergency
[59:58] in my home you know. So that also is
being proposed to phase one. So, it
[1:00:02] might be an option that we can also even
though we're not home or in that ping
[1:00:08] area because we live in that ping area,
we'll get a notice somewhere else. But
[1:00:11] you would have to actually register
physically as a resident or a person of
[1:00:15] interest, right? Makes sense, you know,
and I would want to know
[1:00:19] » about traveling. Hey,
>> 14.
[1:00:23] [laughter]
>> Yeah. They also said too is the downside
[1:00:26] to is not, you know, people turn off
their notifications,
[1:00:29] » right? you turn on. Yeah.
>> And if all the notifications are turned
[1:00:32] off, then you're not great. You're not
going to get it.
[1:00:34] » But I mean, whose
>> But we would put out aformational
[1:00:39] letter, you know, with that information.
If you turn your noises off, it's not
[1:00:42] going to work. If you're outside the
area, it's not going to work. You have
[1:00:45] to personally register to get them, you
know, that whole thing. We'll give them
[1:00:48] instructions. We'll try it. Um, but that
will solve, uh, I think the notification
[1:00:54] issue. Um, we did discuss getting our
own yearly subscription to a
[1:00:59] notification system that would have to
go to the tax base basically, but we're
[1:01:03] we're letting the county take the lead
right now.
[1:01:06] » Um,
so we're going to wait on their
[1:01:12] » um assistance and participation.
>> Make sense?
[1:01:15] » Yeah.
>> Do we still do like a like new resident
[1:01:20] packets or whatever we used to do or get
out?
[1:01:22] » Uh, we have a little card, but it
doesn't have
[1:01:25] like everything on it. We talked about
doing some sort of
[1:01:29] » um glad
>> there used to be new resident little bag
[1:01:33] of stuff.
Anyways, that would be something. We
[1:01:37] could have that in there. Yeah.
>> Or for them to see about the
[1:01:40] notification system too,
>> right?
[1:01:43] » I think it would be great if if we can
get it working properly and we can use
[1:01:46] it because they're they're also, like I
said, concerned about Oldfield. So,
[1:01:49] they're going to we're going to kind of
do it in conjunction.
[1:01:54] Um, so there'll be a lot of information
even by Jennese County Emergency
[1:01:58] Management to the community. This is
going on. This is happening, you know,
[1:02:01] so
>> everybody will be fully aware and
[1:02:03] they're taking the lead. We are we'll be
a partner. So,
[1:02:07] » makes sense.
>> Sounds good.
[1:02:09] » Okay. Um, resolution Courtney.
>> Uh, so this is a resolution for the
[1:02:16] uh joint comprehensive plan grant
application.
[1:02:23] requires a 15% match
half of which below the village
[1:02:31] 7 7.5%
match
[1:02:37] we did not get it last year but that the
conversation uh we met with staff from
[1:02:43] um
not sure what the it was called but the
[1:02:48] » New York state
>> yeah New York the the department who uh
[1:02:54] graded the grants pointswise. They they
were saying we're we were like so close
[1:03:01] and they couldn't they couldn't say it
they couldn't say it say it but they
[1:03:04] were emphasizing just how close we were.
>> It was just just
[1:03:10] very and so
>> Were they emphasizing that because
[1:03:12] there's something you can do to make the
next one go through? Yeah, there's a
[1:03:15] couple little things that they
feedbackwise that um do different um and
[1:03:21] they'll put us over and but they just
kept on saying I think we should I think
[1:03:26] we think you should reapply. You don't
need a lot of different change just need
[1:03:29] to reply. So there's a few little tweaks
in there that they're going to do. Um
[1:03:33] but besides that we have a really good
chance
[1:03:37] but it's something we need. Um it'll
take it'll be a long process.
[1:03:41] Comprehensive plan is not um like simple
and easy.
[1:03:46] » The [clears throat] last done under
Hannah
[1:03:49] back quite a while.
>> Yeah.
[1:03:55] » 2013 to update the
>> 2016. There's been so much change and so
[1:04:01] much, you know, movement that it's
outdated. And uh that's really supposed
[1:04:06] to be the world guide decision making of
>> what we do. And
[1:04:11] » having an updated one gives us a better
chance of getting grants for our future
[1:04:16] building progress and things like that.
So
[1:04:20] » all right, I'll accept a motion of
approval.
[1:04:24] » Okay.
>> Board questions. Make a motion that we
[1:04:26] uh accept resolution number 10 of 2026
support the submission of smart growth
[1:04:33] planning grant application by version.
[1:04:39] Um all in favor I
>> opposed.
[1:04:46] Now we have a fire department um member
Emily Hod
[1:04:54] who's just outside the village at
Johnson
[1:05:02] and would like to be um accepted.
>> What is the rule for where you have to
[1:05:08] live? Is there any rule?
>> Not
[1:05:14] » no. But you just have to be they want
you there in in an emergency.
[1:05:19] » So if you're
>> She literally lives just over the
[1:05:22] expressway
>> in it's considered church, but it's like
[1:05:26] right off the cut road there. So
>> but is you know comes to all the
[1:05:33] » departmental. I'll make a motion that we
uh approve uh Emily Hog uh as a member
[1:05:40] of the Virgin Fire Department.
>> I'll second that. Okay. All all in
[1:05:45] favor?
>> Any opposed?
[1:05:47] » Congratulations, Emily.
>> Thank you, Emily.
[1:05:50] » Yeah, Emily. It's nice to see that we
get the
[1:05:55] Deon sister. He's like the most like
basically he got um he got the award for
[1:06:00] like service most called fire department
of the year most like he got like three
[1:06:04] awards at the banquet
>> um and he lives
[1:06:08] » that is where she lives.
>> Yes [laughter]
[1:06:11] basically. Yeah.
He lives Yeah. They're just up that way.
[1:06:16] So yeah,
>> they're dedicated and so they probably
[1:06:21] want to go to these calls together.
>> Yeah, that'll be good.
[1:06:24] » Nice.
>> Okay. No old business, no privilege of
[1:06:26] the floor. So, we are Any other
comments, questions, concerns?
[1:06:32] » No.
>> Okay. Next month, folks, we are at the
[1:06:35] town. We are doing our joint meeting.
But I know you're on vacation.
[1:06:39] » Oh, yeah. That's on the 18th.
>> 18th. Yeah. So, we will not have our
[1:06:42] Wednesday meeting. It's a Tuesday
meeting over at the town.
[1:06:46] » Tuesday. August 18th.
>> August 18th at the town. We're doing a
[1:06:50] joint meeting.
>> What time is it at? It's
[1:06:53] » I believe it's seven. I believe it's
still made the farmers market until
[1:06:58] » Yes.
>> Dumb. We got We were out of here at
[1:07:02] 6:30.
>> Yeah. So,
[1:07:04] » so it'll be the town is going to do
their board meeting. We're going to do
[1:07:09] our board meeting, but there will be
opening presentations by both the fire
[1:07:12] department and uh county legislator
>> uh Christian.
[1:07:20] He's gonna just going to both do updates
of current status um of county and fire
[1:07:26] department
>> and it'll be recorded if I want to watch
[1:07:29] it
>> so I don't know if there
[1:07:34] » I will ask her
>> and
[1:07:38] » yeah we keep the our small yeah our
agenda I don't anticipate a ton for next
[1:07:44] month I'm really hoping for an easy
month and no talking to the news this
[1:07:48] month is [laughter] not right.
>> Okay. Um, accept the motion.
[1:07:54] » I'll make a motion that we adjourn.
>> I'll second. All in favor? I accept.
[1:08:01] Yeah, we've had a busy time.
>> It's been busy.