1 00:00:18,770 --> 00:00:27,950 All right. Welcome back to our regularly scheduled non-monthly zoning adjustments board meeting. 2 00:00:28,950 --> 00:00:43,090 It is 7 PM, so I will begin the meeting by our call to order of the August 13th Zab meeting. I'll start by reading our public advisory. 3 00:00:43,870 --> 00:00:48,450 This meeting will be conducted in a hybrid model with both in-person and virtual participation. 4 00:00:48,870 --> 00:00:52,630 The teleconference will be recorded as in-isab meetings recorded in all of the world's 5 00:00:52,630 --> 00:00:56,650 procedure and the coronal apply for zab meetings conducted by teleconference or video conference. 6 00:00:59,180 --> 00:01:04,800 To access the meeting remotely, join from a PC Mac, iPad, or other device, please use 7 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,420 the URL provided in the agenda. 8 00:01:06,980 --> 00:01:10,520 If you do not wish for your name to appear on the screen, then use a drop-down then you 9 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,040 click rename to rename yourself to be anonymous. 10 00:01:13,580 --> 00:01:16,240 To request to speak, use the raise hand icon 11 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,880 by rolling over the bottom of the screen. 12 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,640 To join by phone, dial the numbers provided 13 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,340 in the agenda and enter the webinar ID number 14 00:01:23,340 --> 00:01:24,820 also provided in the agenda. 15 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,240 If you wish to comment during the public comment 16 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,260 portion of the agenda, press star nine and wait 17 00:01:30,260 --> 00:01:32,000 to be recognized by the chair. 18 00:01:33,020 --> 00:01:35,440 All right, that was our public advisory. 19 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,080 Now, we're going to do our roll call vote 20 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,540 and an expertate communications. 21 00:01:40,780 --> 00:01:41,460 Thank you. 22 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,960 When I call your name, please state President 23 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:46,120 and disclose any expertate communications. 24 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:47,720 Commissioner Duffy. 25 00:01:48,460 --> 00:01:49,360 President Noxpertae. 26 00:01:50,380 --> 00:01:51,060 Commissioner Thompson. 27 00:01:51,940 --> 00:01:53,780 President Noxpertae. 28 00:01:53,820 --> 00:01:54,600 Commissioner Cramer. 29 00:01:55,300 --> 00:01:56,140 President Noxpertae. 30 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,660 Commissioner Allen. 31 00:01:58,340 --> 00:01:59,020 President Noxpertae. 32 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Commissioner Ruth. 33 00:02:01,140 --> 00:02:02,640 President Noxpertae. 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,220 Vice Chair Young. 35 00:02:04,820 --> 00:02:06,120 President Noxpertae. 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,020 and Commissioner Sanderson is absent. 37 00:02:13,210 --> 00:02:14,910 All right, thank you so much. 38 00:02:15,630 --> 00:02:18,710 Now our next item is our land acknowledgement statement, 39 00:02:18,830 --> 00:02:19,590 which I will read. 40 00:02:20,270 --> 00:02:22,570 The Commission recognizes that the community we live in 41 00:02:22,570 --> 00:02:25,010 was built on the territory of the Huchun, 42 00:02:25,230 --> 00:02:26,650 the ancestral and unseated land 43 00:02:26,650 --> 00:02:28,670 of the Chetinius-speaking Alana people. 44 00:02:29,230 --> 00:02:31,010 The ancestors and descendants of the sovereign 45 00:02:31,010 --> 00:02:32,470 were on a band of Alameda County. 46 00:02:32,690 --> 00:02:35,790 This landing was, and continues to be of great importance, 47 00:02:36,010 --> 00:02:38,370 to the Eloni tribes and descendants of the were on a band. 48 00:02:38,370 --> 00:02:42,390 As we begin our meeting tonight, we acknowledge and honor the original inhabitants of Berkeley, 49 00:02:42,690 --> 00:02:47,070 the documented 5,000 year history of vibrant community in the West Berkeley Shell mound and the 50 00:02:47,070 --> 00:02:49,990 alony people who continue to reside in the East Bay. 51 00:02:50,530 --> 00:02:54,170 We recognize that Berkeley's residents haven't continued to benefit from the use and occupation 52 00:02:54,170 --> 00:02:58,170 of this unseated stone land since the city of Berkeley's incorporation in 1878. 53 00:02:58,950 --> 00:03:02,390 As stewards of the laws regulating the city, Berkeley, it is not only vital that we recognize 54 00:03:02,390 --> 00:03:06,350 the history of this land, but also that we recognize the alony people and our present, 55 00:03:06,350 --> 00:03:09,130 members of Berkeley and other East-Bake communities today. 56 00:03:09,350 --> 00:03:13,430 The city of Berkeley will continue to build relationships with the least John tribe and 57 00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:17,210 create meaningful actions that uphold the intention of this land acknowledgement. 58 00:03:18,870 --> 00:03:25,700 All right, now we are moving on to public comment on non-agenda and informational items. 59 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:32,640 So how this works is, if you are here in person, you can approach Secretary Gong and ask 60 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:36,500 for a green card to queue yourself or in person public comment. 61 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:41,640 as I mentioned previously, if you're attending virtually, you can raise your hand to queue to provide 62 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:48,120 virtual public comment over Zoom. All right. With that being said, we will move to in-person 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:54,360 public comments of which we have one, and that would be from Philip Lim. So Philip, if you're here, 64 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,380 please approach the mic. 65 00:04:14,470 --> 00:04:19,550 Hello, board members. My name is Philip Lim. My name is Philip Lim. 66 00:04:20,730 --> 00:04:29,710 M like Martinez is filled with the NM and I oppose the construction project at 2-2-9-8 during 67 00:04:29,710 --> 00:04:30,270 a afternoon. 68 00:04:30,890 --> 00:04:32,410 I request you. 69 00:04:32,570 --> 00:04:34,270 Oh, I'm so sorry to interrupt you. 70 00:04:34,930 --> 00:04:36,850 I personally have made a mistake. 71 00:04:37,550 --> 00:04:42,390 Your comment was on consent item on the consent calendar. 72 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:53,370 So, you're currently in non-agendized items, so if I can actually ask you to hold your 73 00:04:53,370 --> 00:04:59,370 public comment until we get to that portion, I personally made a mistake and miss categorize 74 00:04:59,370 --> 00:04:59,850 your comment. 75 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,860 No foul. Yes. Thank you. 76 00:05:06,990 --> 00:05:17,830 So seeing as there are no in-person comments for non-agenda items, I'll go to Zoom. So if you have a comment on non-agenda items, please raise your virtual hand. 77 00:05:21,530 --> 00:05:24,390 Looks like we have one. So I will, 78 00:05:28,260 --> 00:05:34,100 all right, end-jones. I will now unmute you. Feel free to provide your comment. 79 00:05:35,460 --> 00:05:45,200 Hello, I'm actually wanting to comment on the proposal for the project at 3101 Sacramento 80 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:45,680 Street. 81 00:05:48,860 --> 00:05:48,980 So. 82 00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:51,240 We will get to that item shortly. 83 00:05:51,860 --> 00:05:52,200 Okay. 84 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,240 Thank you for your patience. 85 00:05:53,860 --> 00:05:54,760 All right. 86 00:05:56,630 --> 00:05:57,090 All right. 87 00:05:58,190 --> 00:06:05,110 Seeing as though we don't have in-person or virtual comments for non-agendized items, we can move 88 00:06:05,110 --> 00:06:05,690 right along. 89 00:06:06,530 --> 00:06:09,930 So now we'll be moving on to our consent calendar. 90 00:06:10,410 --> 00:06:11,870 Thank you everyone for your patience. 91 00:06:12,450 --> 00:06:17,430 So our consent calendar has two items. 92 00:06:18,030 --> 00:06:19,990 The first one is 31.01 Sacramento. 93 00:06:20,990 --> 00:06:23,510 And the second one is 22.98 demand. 94 00:06:26,230 --> 00:06:31,530 So now we will move on to in-person public comments 95 00:06:31,530 --> 00:06:34,650 on any of our consent calendar items. 96 00:06:35,350 --> 00:06:35,910 So, 97 00:06:38,050 --> 00:06:38,930 we have one. 98 00:06:39,750 --> 00:06:42,710 Joel Vlim, please feel free to provide your comment. 99 00:06:47,940 --> 00:06:50,640 Before I begin, can somebody let me know 100 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,160 when I have about 15 seconds please feel free to interrupt me? 101 00:06:56,550 --> 00:07:00,330 My name is Philip Vlim, and my last name 102 00:07:00,330 --> 00:07:01,790 like Mark Spelte with Martinez, 103 00:07:02,670 --> 00:07:05,190 and I oppose the construction project. 104 00:07:05,190 --> 00:07:14,650 At 2 2 9 8 to Ant Avenue, I request the zoning adjustment board, D9, ZP, 2 0, 2 6, 105 00:07:14,910 --> 00:07:24,090 hyphen, 0 0 3 9, and I request the board, direct staff to commission and independent study 106 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,180 to answer the following question. 107 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:36,260 If the buildings at 2,298 and 2,303,000, 108 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,720 grant avenue, mean to Berkeley, 109 00:07:39,580 --> 00:07:42,840 what the mansions and the French Quarter of New Orleans 110 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:43,980 means to New Orleans, 111 00:07:46,410 --> 00:07:47,450 let me be fair to that. 112 00:07:48,730 --> 00:07:53,130 If the buildings at 2,298 and 2,303, 113 00:07:53,350 --> 00:07:57,990 grant avenue, mean to Berkeley, what the mansions and the French Quarter mean to New Orleans, 114 00:07:57,990 --> 00:08:05,470 If the answer to that question is, yes, then I don't think that there should be building 115 00:08:05,470 --> 00:08:09,310 on the site with a new apartment building, 116 00:08:11,910 --> 00:08:16,830 and also I request the board to walk on the 117 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:25,290 north side walk, the vancroft, and between Melvia and Shaddick and Pay attention to how 118 00:08:25,290 --> 00:08:33,590 for much of the length of the sidewalk walls, but the sidewalk. That is what the block of 119 00:08:34,770 --> 00:08:42,870 the south side walk where 2, 2, 9, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9 is training towards and I want to ask you if the 120 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:50,290 city, thank you. I want to ask you if the city wants that for its visitors and guests as an experience 121 00:08:50,290 --> 00:08:54,050 when they're going on to their destinations in Berkeley. 122 00:08:55,650 --> 00:08:58,250 And also, I cover this for health reasons, 123 00:08:58,750 --> 00:08:59,630 so you can have the generator. 124 00:09:00,270 --> 00:09:02,110 Clean the microphone later, thank you. 125 00:09:02,450 --> 00:09:03,790 Thank you so much for your comment, Pele. 126 00:09:04,870 --> 00:09:07,390 For those of us who just joined, we are currently 127 00:09:07,390 --> 00:09:10,810 on the public comment portion of our consent calendar. 128 00:09:11,270 --> 00:09:14,530 So if you have a public comment for any consent item, 129 00:09:14,970 --> 00:09:16,890 feel free to submit a green comment card. 130 00:09:18,190 --> 00:09:23,570 If not, then we will be moving on to virtual public comment on our consent items. 131 00:09:24,710 --> 00:09:26,330 So I'll return to M Jones. 132 00:09:27,630 --> 00:09:29,250 You should be able to speak. 133 00:09:30,170 --> 00:09:31,850 Hello, can you hear me? 134 00:09:32,730 --> 00:09:32,990 Yes. 135 00:09:34,030 --> 00:09:34,590 Yes. 136 00:09:35,190 --> 00:09:42,870 I live at 31.07 Sacramento Street, which is next door to the proposed construction site. 137 00:09:42,870 --> 00:09:46,850 On the other side of me at 31-21 is Creekwood Restaurant. 138 00:09:47,730 --> 00:09:52,170 The problem is that I am 66 years old. 139 00:09:52,910 --> 00:09:58,770 I have some limited mobility, so the parking has been a real struggle. 140 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:13,420 That's one thing. The other thing is that since this building has been up for sale, has become a graffiti, it's been influx of graffiti on the building. 141 00:10:14,540 --> 00:10:21,320 trash is being put out there in the new owners, whoever they are, are not coming over there and clean up. 142 00:10:21,820 --> 00:10:28,680 There's rodents. I've reported to the cold enforcement about the rodents. 143 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:37,840 There's a, if in fest wood rodents, I could see them running in my backyard along the wall every night. 144 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:46,980 And now, few days ago, there was a family of raccoons on my fence, so my question is about 145 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:53,440 are they going to have vector control coming there and do something and also the parking 146 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:59,800 situation? Is that something that the planning commission can address when they start this 147 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:00,260 construction? 148 00:11:03,790 --> 00:11:04,790 Thank you. 149 00:11:07,050 --> 00:11:09,830 Thank you. Thank you so much. I have some comments and responses 150 00:11:09,830 --> 00:11:12,930 some of those points, but I'll save that for our commission deliberation. 151 00:11:15,950 --> 00:11:19,490 So we have no more virtual public comments for our consent calendar. 152 00:11:21,730 --> 00:11:24,670 And I'm seeing there are no more imposing comments for our consent calendar. 153 00:11:24,730 --> 00:11:26,910 I'll move on to commission deliberation. 154 00:11:28,930 --> 00:11:35,090 So if you have any comments, that would be the time before we make a motion or vote. 155 00:11:38,630 --> 00:11:43,690 I'll take this opportunity to respond to some of the points you brought up Ms. Jones. 156 00:11:45,610 --> 00:11:55,670 So the purview of the zoning adjustments board is the review of permits for, you know, future work or, you know, uses for buildings. 157 00:11:57,110 --> 00:12:01,190 Your comments about, you know, the current state of the property are definitely concerning. 158 00:12:02,390 --> 00:12:06,290 Those would best be addressed by the city's code enforcement. 159 00:12:07,150 --> 00:12:14,410 And specifically, I know there is a point of contact in the city's health department for 160 00:12:14,410 --> 00:12:15,310 a vector control. 161 00:12:15,590 --> 00:12:18,550 I think there's one guy named Bradley Horkson there. 162 00:12:18,850 --> 00:12:22,150 He would be great to talk to, came to my apartment a few times. 163 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:26,110 So there's that. 164 00:12:26,110 --> 00:12:35,250 And then the other thing too, is we, yeah, this city Berkeley has, you know, pretty straightforward 165 00:12:35,250 --> 00:12:41,750 objectives standards about whether or not a structure provides parking, so with the applicants 166 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:48,590 doing is allowed by the city's standards, so that'll conclude my comments there. 167 00:12:52,390 --> 00:13:02,970 I'll make a motion to approve the consent calendar, including the modification to the revision 168 00:13:02,970 --> 00:13:06,830 into conditions of approval for $22.98. 169 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,120 All second. 170 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:15,660 You want to? 171 00:13:16,060 --> 00:13:17,280 Oh, if I did two of that. 172 00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:17,920 I do. 173 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:18,480 Yes. 174 00:13:20,220 --> 00:13:22,840 So this is for approval of the consent calendar, 175 00:13:25,220 --> 00:13:29,920 including the modifications to the conditions of approval for $22.98. 176 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:43,600 Thank you, Commissioner Allen, have the motion and Chair Vice Chair Young, have the second and I will call roll for your vote. 177 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,800 When I state your name, please tell me your vote, Commissioner Duffy. 178 00:13:49,420 --> 00:13:51,740 Yes. Commissioner Thompson. 179 00:13:51,740 --> 00:13:52,860 Yes. 180 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,580 Commissioner Claymer. 181 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:56,500 Commissioner Allen. 182 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:57,200 Yes. 183 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:58,520 Commissioner Ruth. 184 00:13:59,020 --> 00:13:59,140 Yes. 185 00:14:00,060 --> 00:14:00,840 Vice Chair Young. 186 00:14:01,460 --> 00:14:01,620 Yes. 187 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,360 Thank you. 188 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:04,440 All right. 189 00:14:04,700 --> 00:14:09,780 So the use permits for 2 to 98 grant in 3101 Sacramento have been granted. 190 00:14:09,780 --> 00:14:14,840 There's a 14 day appeal period after which the premise will be finalized. 191 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:17,060 All right. 192 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:18,620 Moving right along. 193 00:14:19,860 --> 00:14:28,420 We can go to our action calendar and we have one item there that would be the use permit 194 00:14:28,420 --> 00:14:35,280 for 29-74 Sacramento Street so first we'll have city staff's presentation. 195 00:15:37,810 --> 00:15:50,830 Good evening chair and members of the Zoning Adjustment Board. My name is Finals Stover and I'm an assistant planner with the Land Use Division. Tonight I will present a staff report for the use permit application for 2974 Sacramento Street. 196 00:15:53,360 --> 00:16:03,740 The applicant request is a use permit to authorize the intensification of an existing non-conforming use by allowing the processing of life poultry within the existing warehouse. 197 00:16:03,740 --> 00:16:10,380 The proposed process would allow a growing diverse community to purchase how large 198 00:16:10,380 --> 00:16:15,200 shaking for religious and alternative dietary needs and would occur within the residential 199 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,040 zone portion of the warehouse. 200 00:16:17,940 --> 00:16:23,500 No expansion of the building footprint or floor area is proposed, instead the project consists 201 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:26,780 of interior improvements to accommodate the proposed operations. 202 00:16:26,780 --> 00:16:27,920 The 203 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:40,420 applicant requests is, I'm sorry, the subject property is developed within it as it exists in the neighborhood market, the residential units and a accessory warehouse. 204 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:46,490 The property is a through lot with frontage on two public streets and as a result has two required front setbacks. 205 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,140 The market building is located entirely within the commercial zoning district. 206 00:16:53,140 --> 00:17:03,620 The Accessory Warehouse spans the commercial and residential zoning district boundaries with approximately 10% within the commercial district and 90% within the residential district. 207 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,480 The split zone configuration isn't existing condition of the property. 208 00:17:08,740 --> 00:17:18,000 The warehouse has historically preserved as a necessary structure to the market and contains features associated with prior meet preparations and historic activities. 209 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:26,180 The proposal would continue to use the existing warehouse while introducing more instances, 210 00:17:26,180 --> 00:17:29,240 operationally use within the buildings existing envelope. 211 00:17:32,510 --> 00:17:38,570 The applicant spent two years working with land use staff to assess the visibility of the proposed project. 212 00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:43,870 And on March 5th of this year, the use permit application was submitted. 213 00:17:44,490 --> 00:17:48,450 The application was deemed complete and assigned on March 27th, 2020. 214 00:17:48,450 --> 00:17:49,550 The 215 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:57,660 proposed processing activities would take place entirely indoors with a dedicated processing room. 216 00:17:58,140 --> 00:18:03,780 An interior wall would be constructed to separate the processing area from the remainder of the warehouse. 217 00:18:04,540 --> 00:18:08,980 No exterior additions or structural expansions are proposed as part of this application. 218 00:18:10,420 --> 00:18:16,220 As discussed in staff report, the project has been evaluated for consistency with the Brooklyn Municipal Code, 219 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:18,640 including the findings required for use permit 220 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,120 authorizing the intensification of a non-conforming use. 221 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,880 Staff also evaluated the proposed operational characteristics 222 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,500 and surrounding land uses and recommended 223 00:18:29,140 --> 00:18:32,200 conditions of approval intended to minimize potential impacts 224 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,460 on labor and properties. 225 00:18:35,660 --> 00:18:38,540 Based on the analysis, staff finds that the required use 226 00:18:38,540 --> 00:18:40,260 permit findings can be made. 227 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,560 With the standard conditions of approval 228 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,540 and the addition of use specific conditions of approval, 229 00:18:45,540 --> 00:18:51,220 Staff can close that the proposal will not be detrimental to persons or property or materially 230 00:18:51,220 --> 00:18:54,380 injurious to the use or development of adjacent properties. 231 00:18:56,260 --> 00:19:00,640 Accordingly, staff recommends that the zoning adjustment board finds the project categorically 232 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:06,820 exempt from secret, presumptive section 15301, at the SQL guidelines, and approve the request 233 00:19:06,820 --> 00:19:11,600 to use permit subject to the standard conditions of approval and the use specific conditions 234 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,260 contained in the staff report. 235 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,900 It's going to close my presentation. I am available for your questions. 236 00:19:20,620 --> 00:19:26,360 Thank you so much for your presentation. Now, always the time for any commissioner questions for staff. 237 00:19:35,150 --> 00:19:36,110 I have a question. 238 00:19:39,670 --> 00:19:45,670 Can you confirm that there are no windows on the warehouse area where the chickens will be processed? 239 00:19:46,090 --> 00:19:47,170 I can confirm that. 240 00:19:47,170 --> 00:19:56,890 And then can you also confirm that there's no new improvements to the HVAC or planning system that are required as part of this? 241 00:19:56,970 --> 00:19:59,970 At this time, there is that there will be improvements. 242 00:20:00,180 --> 00:20:10,620 For the most part, answered most of my questions, and I'm not that we were talking before the meeting, but we're all like fascinating. We have never seen this kind of project come. 243 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:18,320 So we had known, said the Berkeley Health and Environmental Health Division will license. 244 00:20:18,980 --> 00:20:27,600 Yes, and I was one of the things that we did check on within the two years. I spoke with staff in the Environmental Health. It is covered during their annual inspection. 245 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:28,860 Thank you. 246 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,640 is there any other such operation in the city? 247 00:20:39,420 --> 00:20:44,680 There is no other such operation in the city, which makes this particular project very important 248 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:51,100 to the applicants, and they are here tonight and can't assess why it's important to them. 249 00:20:58,150 --> 00:21:04,470 I wanted to ask besides the new interior wall that will be constructed, are there going 250 00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:11,550 to be any other improvements to the facility to aid in sanitation or containing the noise 251 00:21:11,550 --> 00:21:13,110 that might occur in the indoor space. 252 00:21:13,150 --> 00:21:19,070 The room will be soundproof, so we shouldn't hear anything additional to the everyday 253 00:21:19,930 --> 00:21:22,130 market's activities that they have. 254 00:21:24,020 --> 00:21:27,400 I'm sorry, you did have something else that I think I should address. 255 00:21:27,740 --> 00:21:30,560 I was just wondering about like sanitation facilities. 256 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,000 The sanitation discuss that with the applicant. 257 00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:41,600 He is going to increase service for garbage or refuse and they clean it every day. 258 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:56,100 is this action an essential function of the business like is this going to if this 259 00:21:56,100 --> 00:22:02,260 doesn't happen does the business is the business at risk that I would rather 260 00:22:02,260 --> 00:22:09,800 the applicant get into what I can say is that staff does see that there is a 261 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:15,440 potential for continuous sustainability for the community with this particular 262 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,220 activity 263 00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:22,710 and I know that it's not a condition of approval but do we have a 264 00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:26,710 of about how many chickens per week will be going through or just have big 265 00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:31,250 this facility would be? We don't have a very specific about how many chickens per week 266 00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:35,090 however there is a cap of 150 chickens per day at max. 267 00:22:43,570 --> 00:22:44,810 I have a question. Thank you for your 268 00:22:44,810 --> 00:22:51,470 presentation and just thinking this through because this is new for us too. I'd imagine regarding 269 00:22:51,470 --> 00:22:58,410 waste. The waste is it treated the same as any other like restaurant waste? I mean 270 00:22:58,410 --> 00:23:08,330 restaurants throw away meat, butchers throw away meat and I assume we have a method for that. 271 00:23:09,150 --> 00:23:14,110 Is there anything different about this because it to me doesn't seem so? 272 00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:21,210 What I will say is that live animals produce additional waste in what a restaurant or a normal 273 00:23:21,210 --> 00:23:29,670 grocery store would have the particular animal involved will have to be cleaned up. 274 00:23:29,790 --> 00:23:35,190 There's like in a restaurant or in a grocery store there's no waste from the actual animal 275 00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:42,530 as it's processed elsewhere. This is kind of encompassing processing the whole thing we will 276 00:23:42,530 --> 00:23:48,010 have to deal with additional waste but nothing that will be dangerous to the community. 277 00:23:48,010 --> 00:23:49,230 Yeah, thank you. 278 00:23:54,110 --> 00:24:04,910 Can you speak to sort of how you reached the determination that it's sort of an intensification of a current use versus sort of an entirely new use? 279 00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:20,030 I mean, I think on first glance, it seems sort of closer to a manufacturing process almost or a completely different process from, you know, a process that would involve, you know, processing already cluttered meat. 280 00:24:20,030 --> 00:24:29,690 So can you just speak to a little bit? Historically, Sacramento Market has, and it does have at this time a butcher shop, but historically, the particular shop has 281 00:24:29,690 --> 00:24:41,130 butchered its own meat in the back. It just wasn't alive when it reached the warehouse. In this case, the anticipation is the fact that the poultry will be coming into the shop life. 282 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:51,700 That is the only difference. They still have a butcher counter. They still butcher meat. They still cut it down. But in this case, it's just the beginning process to the 283 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:52,560 in process. 284 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,020 There are no more questions for CSTA. 285 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:04,860 That's one other question. 286 00:25:05,980 --> 00:25:08,400 What's which door will the chickens be coming in? 287 00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:12,280 Will be the one that's facing the apartment building in that parking lot? 288 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,140 Which is a loading, which is their normal delivery. 289 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:20,340 And the trucks will back into the loading zone as the trucks we do now. 290 00:25:21,060 --> 00:25:22,200 So no one will see the chickens. 291 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:31,580 Okay, and are they trying, or chicken is normally transported in like an open air truck or is it like a fully sealed bike, you know, each thing we like. 292 00:25:31,580 --> 00:25:35,100 Can it's a test to how they gonna get the chickens there. 293 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:42,640 Okay. 294 00:25:42,980 --> 00:25:44,000 Thank you so much. 295 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:47,300 We will now move on to the applicant's presentation. 296 00:25:56,580 --> 00:25:57,040 Good evening. 297 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:57,400 Good evening. 298 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:57,600 Good evening. 299 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:58,740 Good evening. 300 00:25:58,740 --> 00:25:58,820 Good evening. 301 00:25:59,280 --> 00:25:59,840 Good evening. 302 00:26:00,340 --> 00:26:02,100 Good evening. 303 00:26:05,580 --> 00:26:06,700 Good evening. 304 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:12,040 Before I talk about the proposal itself, I would like to share something that is very important to me personally 305 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,060 and to the way we operate our business. 306 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,680 As Muslims, we are taught by the Prophet Mohammad, the kindness to neighbors, compassion towards animals 307 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,600 and planting vegetation, our activity and faith. 308 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,640 The comfort and wellbeing of our neighbors is our utmost priority. 309 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,500 That is why we have considered our neighbors and every part of the planning. 310 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:39,100 For this project, we have thought carefully about how to maintain noise, odors, cleanliness and operating hours. 311 00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:42,920 We want to be a good neighbor, not simply a good business. 312 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,220 We are proud to be a third generation business owners with deep roots in South Berkeley. 313 00:26:48,820 --> 00:26:52,100 My parents own Sacramento Market before my husband and I took over. 314 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,740 And my grandfather also owned a nearby store across from Longfellow Middle School. 315 00:26:56,740 --> 00:27:01,180 So serving our community has been a family tradition for generations. 316 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:09,060 Our customers trust us to preserve what they love while continuing to meet their changing needs. 317 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:16,200 And we want to honor that trust by offering something unique and in demand, which is fresh hello chicken. 318 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:20,860 We currently sell a variety of meat and fish that are meat counter. 319 00:27:20,860 --> 00:27:26,100 We are requesting approval to provide a particular type of chicken, fresh chicken, 320 00:27:26,420 --> 00:27:28,000 process according to the Halal method. 321 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,200 What is Halal cut chicken? 322 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,140 Halal is a religious way to prepare food. 323 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,540 The Quran tells us to eat meat, 324 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,180 as Halal and Bayib meaning pure. 325 00:27:39,940 --> 00:27:42,780 Eating Halal is a core part of Islamic practice, 326 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,960 intended to maintain physical and spiritual well-being. 327 00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:50,640 Halal cut chicken is chicken that has been processed according to Islamic rules. 328 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:56,060 First, the chicken must be alive and healthy, and then second, a prayer said, and the chicken 329 00:27:56,060 --> 00:27:56,680 is processed. 330 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,520 As Muslims, we can only eat meat as prepared in this way. 331 00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:06,640 The Halan method of preparing is very similar to kosher, and Halan and kosher go hand in hand 332 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,720 because it shares same fundamental similarities. 333 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,740 There's a great need for Halan and fresh chicken in our community. 334 00:28:15,620 --> 00:28:19,440 I grew up in Berkeley and have been at East Bay Residence in my whole life, so I understand 335 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,460 and have limited some of our food options can be. 336 00:28:22,540 --> 00:28:26,480 Frozen Halal Chicken is available and limited supply over here. 337 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,080 And the ones we do find are not fresh and have been packed 338 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,360 and frozen for weeks. 339 00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:31,760 And they're not the best quality. 340 00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:34,580 We get customers who ask for fresh, 341 00:28:34,580 --> 00:28:37,000 better quality chicken all the time. 342 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,160 Berkeley has an established and growing Muslim community, 343 00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:42,460 including the Berkeley Mastud and Mosque 344 00:28:42,460 --> 00:28:44,920 that is just four blocks down from our store. 345 00:28:45,940 --> 00:28:48,080 Customers who look for Halal, act and come 346 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,620 and ask for it after Friday, a prayer, and especially in Ramadan. 347 00:28:53,240 --> 00:29:00,340 Our proposal would greatly benefit these Muslim and immigrant families who otherwise have to travel outside of Berkeley to find fresh halal chicken. 348 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:07,360 Our customers want confidence that the chicken they purchase is prepared in a manner consistent with their beliefs and needs. 349 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:15,360 Providing this service locally gives them greater transparency about their food and where it comes from and how it was prepared. 350 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,240 We believe that transparency adds unique value to our community. 351 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,340 At the heart of this proposal is fading on food, the freedom for everyone to choose, 352 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,780 Our community, more choice, greater access and confidence. 353 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,040 For people who need fashion, hello, chicken, this would give them a local, regulated neighborhood 354 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:16,660 option. We are not building something new. We are using an existing warehouse, inside an existing 355 00:30:16,660 --> 00:30:22,740 neighborhood market. That served this community since it was built in 1949. I'm kindly 356 00:30:22,740 --> 00:30:27,860 asking for the opportunity to serve a community with fresh, hello, chicken. And the way that 357 00:30:27,860 --> 00:30:33,680 carefully controlled, respectful and compatible to our neighborhood. We are willing to work with 358 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,160 the city and comply with any reasonable conditions of approval in a way that still provides service 359 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,120 to Berkeley's diverse community. 360 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,520 Our goal is to add value and serve our community without making 361 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:52,860 changes that would negatively affect the customers who have supported us for so many years. 362 00:30:52,860 --> 00:31:01,240 Our proposal is limited in scale when operate indoors and will be subject to conditions set by city staff. 363 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:08,820 We kindly ask the Board to approve this request so that we may serve our community while protecting the surrounding neighborhood. 364 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Thank you for your time and consideration. 365 00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:20,010 Thank you so much. Now it's time for any commissioner questions for the applicant's presentation. 366 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,840 Commissioner Thompson. 367 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:42,820 It seems like the city would have a rule of some sort or is there not one that says that you can process me on this street in particular. 368 00:31:43,380 --> 00:31:45,440 There's no such thing. 369 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,400 That's the question for staff. Sorry. 370 00:31:48,780 --> 00:31:52,040 You know what? This amount of timing is off. Let's scratch that. I'll bring it up later. 371 00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:53,220 Sorry. 372 00:31:56,530 --> 00:32:05,470 I wanted to ask, so one of the conditions of approval is that there would be a maximum daily limit of 150 chickens. 373 00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:15,730 Of course, that's an upper bound. Would you be able to speak to how many chickens per day or per week at this point you're anticipating or planning for? 374 00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:23,610 So we want to do it by demand, so first when we start off is probably not going to be every day. 375 00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:27,150 Maybe two days a week, three days a week, and then depending on demand. 376 00:32:28,450 --> 00:32:32,750 Of course, one of the conditions is that the chickens cannot be there at night. 377 00:32:33,510 --> 00:32:37,310 So whatever comes in during the day has to be gone by night. 378 00:32:37,850 --> 00:32:40,530 So it's totally going to be based on demand. 379 00:32:42,980 --> 00:32:44,040 Thank you. 380 00:32:49,220 --> 00:32:53,000 This was somebody else's question, but I'm going to ask it. 381 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:59,360 If you could describe how the chickens are delivered, I mean, I've probably seen trucks 382 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:05,560 of chickens on the freeway, but what is the containment like and what would be, and then how 383 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,560 is it transferred from the truck into the building? 384 00:33:08,020 --> 00:33:13,280 It would be a closed truck, and the truck would completely come inside, so the back has like 385 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,280 an unloading area, like a garage kind of, and that's where it would be, so it would 386 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:23,360 completely park inside, close the garage and then take them out. Yes. 387 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,260 All right if there are 388 00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:36,940 no more commissioner questions for the applicant, we can move on to public comment. 389 00:33:41,410 --> 00:33:42,630 All right so we'll 390 00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:50,270 start with in person public comment. First we'll begin with Howard S. 391 00:33:57,580 --> 00:33:59,360 I live in the neighborhood about 392 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:07,760 walk away. I'm a nice Jewish boy. I didn't know anything about the Hallala thing. I like 393 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,920 this place. The front is always clean. The prices are low, lower than Berkeley, 394 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:21,540 low, which is about eight blocks away. I use the, I go to the meat counter. I know the guy, 395 00:34:21,940 --> 00:34:27,660 I get my hamburger specially made. My daughter just brought me an air fryer. I'm going to 396 00:34:27,660 --> 00:34:33,380 make chicken McNuggets, maybe they're going to even taste better now. These are good 397 00:34:33,380 --> 00:34:41,040 people. This market is so important to the area. The nearest places to buy food are 398 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:51,020 liquor stores on either side or you walk to Berkeley bowl. So the idea that somehow he's 399 00:34:51,020 --> 00:34:54,700 going to be able to do this is not a good thing for the neighborhood. 400 00:35:03,860 --> 00:35:23,940 Hi, thank you so much. My name is Andy or Andrea Grace. I live about three blocks away from the Sacramento market. I've watched as this family has taken over and turned it into a really thriving grocery outlet for the people that live in the neighborhood including the seniors who live just a couple blocks away who can walk there. 401 00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:34,300 As our previous commenter said, Berkeley Bowl may not only be physically inaccessible, but maybe financially inaccessible as is whole foods, which are the two closest grocery stores. 402 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:40,860 So anything that contributes to the economic prosperity of this store, I think benefits the whole neighborhood. 403 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:44,040 I've watched it on the come up in the last couple of years. 404 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:52,820 I really love to be able to go there and shop kind of like a European every day or two as opposed to going to do a big shop at one of the big stores. 405 00:35:52,820 --> 00:35:55,920 as much as I love Brooklyn, but don't get me wrong. 406 00:35:56,620 --> 00:36:00,860 But their meat counter and their fresh produce, 407 00:36:01,620 --> 00:36:03,840 they have been unequaled in the quality 408 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,900 that they like to bring. 409 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,500 And I think if anything, when it comes to animal husbandry 410 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:10,600 and rights, which is very important to me, 411 00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:13,900 a small operation like this can be more attentive. 412 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,780 And certainly, the whole designation 413 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,820 is a part of that, like we can be more attentive 414 00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:26,780 to the rights and the needs and the spiritual experience of the animals that we're processing 415 00:36:26,780 --> 00:36:34,720 because the people that I live around eat meat and fresh chicken will be great for our community 416 00:36:35,380 --> 00:36:41,140 and so will the economic prosperity of this family who have done a great job of maintaining a 417 00:36:41,140 --> 00:36:46,200 wonderful source of grocery for my neighbors and myself. Thank you. 418 00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:50,190 Thank you. Thank you so much, 419 00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:52,510 next up we have Margaret O. 420 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:06,860 Hi everyone my name is Margaret O'Woo Sue I go by Mimi I'm actually not a 421 00:37:06,860 --> 00:37:15,220 Berkeley native my partner J.R. is here and I started coming out to Berkeley around three years ago 422 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:22,880 and Sacramento Market has been just a staple of my experience as it leads to just 423 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,680 getting healthy food quickly and then getting snacks through the kids that are in our lives. 424 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,880 But I actually just wanted to share more of a personal testimony as to why this is so important to me. 425 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:42,180 My family is from Ghana in West Africa and they immigrated in 1988. We identified as Christian 426 00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:49,420 and culturally allowed chicken. It's so important to the food or cuisine. Specifically, our soups 427 00:37:49,420 --> 00:37:54,140 students and all of that. And when we were in the Bronx, New York, we had access to 428 00:37:54,140 --> 00:37:59,860 a loud chicken and we were able to eat food from our cuisine and it was wonderful and then 429 00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:05,160 we moved to a southern Michigan, a town called Pilsdale that you probably haven't heard of. 430 00:38:05,540 --> 00:38:12,560 And it was so hard to get a loud chicken and that just impacted the access that we had to 431 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:18,520 have in food that reminded us of home. And so when I was speaking took a loud one of the 432 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:27,600 owners of Sacramento Market, and he told me about him bringing life chickens into Sacramento 433 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,700 Market and having a lot of chicken, I was just so elated as someone who was looking to 434 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:38,260 transition out here, just thinking that this would be something that would be accessible to 435 00:38:38,260 --> 00:38:44,740 me, is something that is so important. And so I know that they've spoken to the ways that 436 00:38:44,740 --> 00:38:52,440 this is home from our religious perspective, also just culturally, it's important. And just the 437 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:59,860 institution, as it stands on its own, is a staple. So I just wanted to offer that. Thank you. 438 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:08,040 Thank you so much. Next up, we have someone who was just mentioned, J.R. 439 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,820 She probably said 440 00:39:18,820 --> 00:39:26,200 better than me, but I've lived in the neighborhood south Berkeley since 2012 I believe and I 441 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:32,140 got to go all as probably three, four times a week. I have a nine-year-old son, he loves going 442 00:39:32,140 --> 00:39:36,520 there, like sometimes if we want to get to get something, he's like not only a breakable, like 443 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,240 you want to go to the laws, and so I just want to see his story continue to thrive and succeed 444 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:47,820 and I believe that this offering allows him to continue to be successful going forward, so 445 00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:52,680 that's it. Thank you. 446 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,980 All right, that was all for our in-person public comments. We will now move to 447 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,220 So we will be moving on to, I believe it's zap deliberation now. 448 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:20,240 Actually, before that, we have, typically, the opportunity for the applicant to respond to any public comments that may have been voiced. 449 00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:30,320 So you can do that now if you wish, but there have been no adversarial public comments. So I'll still afford that opportunity to you if you would like to say any closing remarks. 450 00:40:39,860 --> 00:40:40,540 Thank you. 451 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:44,980 All right, now it is the time for commissioner deliberation. 452 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,640 So the floor is open. 453 00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:00,880 I moved to approve the project. 454 00:41:01,140 --> 00:41:02,220 I was surprised. 455 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,300 So fast. 456 00:41:05,140 --> 00:41:09,340 Yeah, I really appreciate the staff work on this. 457 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,820 Because as reading it, I had a list of questions in my mind. 458 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,300 And as I read through it, and the project specific conditions of approval, 459 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,860 It really like buttoned things up. 460 00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:23,760 I was like, oh, this is going to be crazy, and it wasn't. 461 00:41:23,980 --> 00:41:26,400 It was well organized in the article. 462 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,400 So, yeah. Thanks. 463 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:38,120 Yeah, I just, I want to second that in the level of care and consideration for our unique somewhat unique thing that takes time. 464 00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:44,720 And I also, yeah, I just appreciate that preparation. 465 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,140 It really helps with everything. 466 00:41:46,140 --> 00:41:52,140 And then I just want to say yay to neighborhood serving grocery because I think that's a really important thing. 467 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,120 Good presentation. 468 00:41:57,900 --> 00:42:01,400 It was very thorough and I appreciate the support. 469 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,240 I know I kind of sound like a melodramatic teenager, but as a vegetarian myself, 470 00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:13,260 I will probably abstain from the vote, but I do want to come and spend my money in your store. 471 00:42:13,260 --> 00:42:22,020 And I will come visit, I've driven by, and I want to come and buy some groceries, and I want to see your business thrive. 472 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:37,980 Even though I personally don't eat meat, and I, well, anyway, for my religious purposes, I don't do meat, but I do want to see it thrive, and I will be supporting you. 473 00:42:40,090 --> 00:42:48,190 I did want to share one piece of thought connecting this to another meeting we have recently. 474 00:42:48,810 --> 00:42:55,510 If you saw this kind of behaving a little squirmishly, the reason is because this is sort of an unusual type of application, 475 00:42:56,550 --> 00:43:08,330 which is ever quest to expand and existing legal non-conforming use, which is a whole bunch of jargon to say that our job typically is to look at the zoning map of the city. 476 00:43:08,330 --> 00:43:18,110 and then see what is allowed in that list of allowed uses within a zoning district and then review using those criteria. 477 00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:31,330 Here it's a request to expand a poultry processing use in an area that is residential to R3 side of the through lot. 478 00:43:31,330 --> 00:43:40,330 So we recently heard, I think the last request to expand an existing non-conforming use was the holistic therapy center on sixth street. 479 00:43:40,610 --> 00:43:50,150 I think similarly our process was, you know, it is a reasonable request to, you know, continue our expanding substantially similar use. 480 00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:56,410 So, you know, extending that, you know, I feel that I'm ready to support the item as well. 481 00:43:56,410 --> 00:43:56,750 So, 482 00:44:04,020 --> 00:44:05,240 then we take a vote with the motion. 483 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,660 Motion and a second, so we were discussing that. 484 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,460 And if there's no more discussion on the motion, 485 00:44:10,820 --> 00:44:11,700 then you vote. 486 00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:12,160 Cool. 487 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,400 We can take a roll call, though. 488 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,320 So we'll take a vote. 489 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,400 Here we have a motion from Commissioner Allen 490 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,760 and a second from Commissioner Duffy to approve this project 491 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,020 at $2.974 Sacramento Street. 492 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,740 When I call your name please state your vote. 493 00:44:29,060 --> 00:44:29,620 Commissioner Duffy? 494 00:44:30,660 --> 00:44:32,260 Mr. Thompson. 495 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,320 Epstein. 496 00:44:33,940 --> 00:44:34,820 Commissioner Cramer. 497 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:35,540 Yes. 498 00:44:36,380 --> 00:44:37,000 Commissioner Allen. 499 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,120 Commissioner Ruth. 500 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,000 Commissioner Quaver. Yes. Commissioner Allen. Yes. Commissioner Ruth. Yes. 501 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:14,580 Vice Chair Young. Yes. Thank you. All right. Congratulations. Your use permit has been granted. 502 00:45:14,780 --> 00:45:18,980 There will be a 14-day appeal period after which the permit will be finalized. 503 00:45:21,110 --> 00:45:23,790 All right. I believe that 504 00:45:23,790 --> 00:45:32,630 I believe that was all of our action items, only action item, 505 00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:41,650 it was, all right, so now we can move on to our design review committee report. 506 00:45:42,590 --> 00:45:47,950 If any member here wants to give an update on what's been going on with DRC, 507 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,340 yes, I'll get it together one second. 508 00:45:52,340 --> 00:46:04,400 So, does our review we met and we reviewed a property on print street, and I'll get the address in just one second. 509 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:14,640 It is 2330 print street. So, this is on the corner of print and telegraph. 510 00:46:16,580 --> 00:46:33,640 It's to demolish three main buildings, including a two-story church that's sitting on the corner of Telegraph and Prince, and then there is a one-story school and a vacant commercial building. 511 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:41,320 So those would go away and then it would be replaced by three residential buildings that are each four stories high. 512 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,620 And these would be units for sale, not for rent. 513 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:56,760 So they also include, it's 23 town-home style units with two parking spaces each. 514 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:02,180 So there would be a row of garages that are going down print street. 515 00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:07,620 And there was a lot of objection on that design and whether, 516 00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:14,240 So, the builders are saying we want to attract people who are going to make this permanent 517 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:20,380 and most of the folks who are buying in this area want parking spaces and not to impose 518 00:47:20,380 --> 00:47:33,980 on the neighborhood and we got a lot of responses and we got a lot of input and feedback from 519 00:47:33,980 --> 00:47:41,640 the board and the community. So they're going to come back to DRC with some changes to it. 520 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:48,960 So we shall see, yeah, interesting project and we were we really liked the fact that it was 521 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:57,820 it was more permanent and not so tall. But that's been the biggest controversy with this. 522 00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:02,800 But the design looks great and we'll see what they come back with DRC again. 523 00:48:06,940 --> 00:48:14,780 Thanks. I feel like it's pretty rare that we see like units for ownership that are coming online, so that's cool here. 524 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,700 Everybody's like, what are we really gonna get that? 525 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:29,700 Yeah, I think it's on the DRC website. Let me see if it's there. 526 00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:39,200 I think it maybe. 527 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,520 So I think like we have a city like the next 528 00:48:55,980 --> 00:49:13,180 yeah, it was it was yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so the garages it's it's well, and yeah, yeah, and that was that was there was there was feedback about the apparent of it and just the fact that there's 529 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,980 You know, it looks unwelcoming when you get a row of garages. It says 530 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,640 go on by. And that's a neighborhood. There's a park next door of the 531 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:29,600 Halcyon Street community is a very they've got a community there and they didn't 532 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:35,720 want it disrupted. So the designers did say they would come back with some 533 00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:39,900 plans that they thought would kind of tie it together better. So we shall see. 534 00:49:44,610 --> 00:49:49,430 All right. Thank you so much for that update. After that we have correspondence and 535 00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:59,970 And there we have a link to an email from Stephen Siler regarding the 2021-28. 536 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:15,500 On what the city's disability access requirements are, because from what I read, it sounded like the city has this in place, but from an ethical viewpoint, we should do more to make less traffic or more accessible. 537 00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:22,160 I get to make it, yeah, that's, I'm answering my own question. 538 00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:23,200 Thank you. 539 00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:27,820 We, yeah, if we follow the requirement of the city, 540 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,420 that's what we require to follow, and that's our purviewist. 541 00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:33,220 Thank you. 542 00:50:38,060 --> 00:50:43,600 All right, so, I think next up are the last item that we have anything 543 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,440 done for it is staff announcements. 544 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,180 Yeah, so, staff announcements, we have one item. 545 00:50:51,180 --> 00:50:57,260 City Council is considering scheduling a special meeting on November 12th, 546 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:07,040 26, which is already scheduled with one of our regular Zab meetings for November, and so 547 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:16,280 I wanted to pull the Zab members for attendance if they could attend the meeting if it were 548 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,560 move to November 5th a week earlier. 549 00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:24,560 So I'm wondering if we could kind of take like an informal pull, like a head counter, a hand 550 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:32,320 count for those who are present here who might be able to attend the November 5th meeting. 551 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:38,260 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 552 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,340 Okay, yeah, and here on alternate. 553 00:51:39,940 --> 00:51:41,480 So, okay, so we've got five. 554 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:48,140 And I believe five would be a quorum, so I think we're good, and we will finalize that 555 00:51:48,140 --> 00:51:54,490 to November 5th. Thank you. Thank you. 556 00:51:58,410 --> 00:52:00,810 There have been some questions about a second, 557 00:52:01,150 --> 00:52:09,870 Zab meeting in August. Do we end resolved? I don't think there is a serious 558 00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:17,870 we're not going to move forward with adding a meeting in August. We do have really full 559 00:52:17,870 --> 00:52:24,550 agenda for September and October and there might have been some talk about adding a special 560 00:52:24,550 --> 00:52:32,390 meeting but so far we are not moving forward with that. Yeah. What do you know if we do consider 561 00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:34,670 more meetings in September or October? 562 00:52:42,670 --> 00:52:48,970 Okay so our next meeting will be September 10th and I can 563 00:52:48,970 --> 00:52:51,170 Now move to adjourn. 564 00:52:55,470 --> 00:52:55,650 Second. 565 00:52:58,190 --> 00:53:03,010 Yeah, I think so, technically. Okay, we have a second from Commissioner Cramer. 566 00:53:04,490 --> 00:53:10,830 Okay, great. So we have a motion from Vice Chair Young and second from Commissioner Cramer to adjourn. 567 00:53:11,550 --> 00:53:14,410 When I call your name, please state your vote. Commissioner Duffy. 568 00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:24,010 I'll say yes, but I also, it does feel silly. Sometimes I have to vote on closing the meeting, but I've been in part of that meeting is where we disagreed on closing the meeting and voting was very important. 569 00:53:27,890 --> 00:53:29,410 Thank you. 570 00:53:29,970 --> 00:53:30,550 Commissioner Thompson. 571 00:53:31,970 --> 00:53:32,530 Commissioner Cramer. 572 00:53:33,690 --> 00:53:34,350 Commissioner Allen. 573 00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:34,910 Yes. 574 00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:36,110 Commissioner Ruth. 575 00:53:36,270 --> 00:53:36,550 Yes. 576 00:53:36,990 --> 00:53:37,630 Vice-chair Young. 577 00:53:37,970 --> 00:53:38,230 Yes. 578 00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:39,230 Thanks.