1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,240 but there it is 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:14,000 calling to order the monday august 9th 2021 regular meeting of the 38th council 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:17,920 of the city of berkeley miss harold would you please call the 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:22,560 roll council member baker here council member blanchard here 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:26,400 councilmember mayor pro tem dean here council member gavin here 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:31,199 council member hennan here council member price here 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:35,840 mayor turbrack here our first order of business this evening 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:39,920 is the approval of tonight's agenda is there a motion to approve 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:44,079 so moved your honor support motion made by councilmember baker with support from 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:47,039 council member blanchard are there any changes or additions 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:53,360 okay seeing none miss harold would you please 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:56,879 call the role on tonight's agenda blanchard yes 13 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:03,840 dean yes gavin yes hennen yes price yes baker yes 14 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:07,840 turbric yes at this time please stand for the 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:12,960 invocation and remain standing for the pledge of allegiance with us this 16 00:01:09,439 --> 00:01:16,560 evening is pastor zach dunlap let's pray 17 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:20,400 good and loving god thank you for the opportunity to live 18 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:26,479 work worship learn pray grow eat shop and 19 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:29,119 make music in this wonderful community of berkeley 20 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:35,840 we come from many different faith traditions and belief systems yet we are 21 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:39,280 united in our pursuit of the common good may we truly look for the good in each 22 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:44,880 person may you grant us and our mayor and city 23 00:01:41,759 --> 00:01:48,960 council members wisdom and discernment to lead well 24 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:54,960 and may you empower us to set aside our differences and truly 25 00:01:52,880 --> 00:02:00,640 love our neighbors as ourselves 26 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,640 in the strong name of jesus i pray 27 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:15,599 of amen united states of america and to the republic for which it stands 28 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:21,640 one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for 29 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:21,640 all 30 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:34,879 all right we will now move to public comments and just as we did last time 31 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,840 please bear with me for a few minutes so i can 32 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:41,200 go through the process because we have a number of different folks with us today 33 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:46,400 possibly uh per our normal rules and procedures 34 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:50,080 uh you may comment on specific agenda items while they are being considered 35 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:54,800 and as we have done in the past at normal in-person meetings 36 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,840 council members still will not engage you in discussion but if your concern 37 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:02,959 needs to be addressed by a member of city staff please sign your name um on 38 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:06,720 the at the clerk's table there for those attending in person 39 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:10,000 you will have the opportunity to speak in just a moment you can simply come up 40 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:14,080 to the podium state your name and city of residence just as normal 41 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,599 for those attending virtually uh participants in the webcast can utilize 42 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,519 the raise your hand function by selecting manage participants on the 43 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:25,120 bottom of your dashboard and then select the more button in the bottom right hand 44 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,959 corner and our moderator will call your name and unmute you so that you can 45 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:32,640 speak when it is your turn if you have called in 46 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:36,159 please select star 9 or hit star 9 on your 47 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,599 phone that will put you in the queue and you will be announced by the last four 48 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,640 digits of your phone number when it is your turn to comment 49 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,680 again in the virtual environment you will have three minutes to speak and 50 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:49,840 once the three minutes are up you will be muted by the moderators 51 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:54,319 additionally we will read public comments that were emailed to the clerk 52 00:03:52,239 --> 00:03:57,920 prior to 5 pm today and we'll make sure that those 53 00:03:56,159 --> 00:04:00,720 electronic communications are part of the public record so we're going to do 54 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,040 this in in a couple turns here and we're 55 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,439 going to follow the same thing throughout the evening when it comes 56 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:08,560 time to comment on events so the first thing we're going to do is i'll open up 57 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,439 to anybody here for public comments again items that are not included on 58 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,959 tonight's agenda then i will ask the clerk if there are 59 00:04:12,959 --> 00:04:19,040 any email communications and thirdly we will go to our folks that are visiting 60 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:22,400 with us virtually make sense hopefully if not i apologize 61 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,840 all right uh we will now begin with those folks 62 00:04:23,919 --> 00:04:29,000 that are with us today in person 63 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:35,120 man i said all that thank you 64 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,120 thank you 65 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:41,360 so i'm uh a berkeley resident my name is jamie 66 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:44,639 stefanian bennett and i am here in support of the small business community 67 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:49,520 here as a resident not a business owner here 68 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:55,680 but specific to if i look at the agenda specifically is resolution number 69 00:04:52,040 --> 00:05:00,080 r27-21 and i wanted to state my support representing 70 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:05,680 a great deal of my neighbors colleagues and friends here in town to 71 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:10,800 voice my support of extending the temporary outdoor dining 72 00:05:07,759 --> 00:05:14,960 there has been a great deal of pride that we've had even throughout 73 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:19,360 covid by inviting friends and family members to these 74 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:24,240 outdoor spaces bringing people to town and we feel that 75 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:28,560 it will only help the efforts of the dda and other businesses to come into town 76 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:32,880 when they see berkeley act in such a progressive manner with the blood 77 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:39,199 sweat and tears that so many of our small business community have made to 78 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:43,840 stay in business let alone thrive and so we want our small businesses here to 79 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:48,639 thrive and i state my full unequivocal support of our small business community 80 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:51,360 thank you jamie um again we're talking about items that are 81 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,759 not covered on the agenda we will certainly get to that and i will make 82 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,280 sure that we started off with this one 83 00:05:55,199 --> 00:06:01,120 i i appreciate you about this coming up to the microphone thank you thank you 84 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:06,280 any other public comments for any other items that are not covered on tonight's 85 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:06,280 agenda 86 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:12,080 all right miss harold did you receive any email communications to be read into 87 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:16,560 the public record no i did not your honor okay thank you 88 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:20,800 miss mathis i will now switch over to 89 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,080 our hybrid version anybody virtually like to comment 90 00:06:22,479 --> 00:06:30,240 um i believe so steve if you want to unmute yourself you can go ahead 91 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:35,039 and get some more volume sarah oh can you guys hear me okay that's 92 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:39,600 better it's getting a little bit better okay 93 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:43,919 i'll adjust the volume over here steve if you have anything to say you 94 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,919 can go ahead and speak 95 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:53,919 okay thank you very much uh members of council and honorable mayor i'd like to 96 00:06:53,039 --> 00:06:56,800 uh correct a little something 97 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,479 that had transpired uh 98 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:05,280 prior to myself and paul 99 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,720 resigning from the zoning board of appeals 100 00:07:06,479 --> 00:07:15,840 we did have a conversation with you on the telephone subsequently it was said 101 00:07:11,919 --> 00:07:19,280 in that last pc meeting that that there were discussions ongoing with 102 00:07:17,919 --> 00:07:24,560 staff and uh and council people that is 103 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:28,160 absolutely not true i talked to six of the seven 104 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:33,919 that were seated at the time of the resignation they have not heard anything 105 00:07:31,039 --> 00:07:39,360 from anyone other than dennis hennan who contacted them and said if you have 106 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:43,599 anything you need information on please feel free to ask i don't know 107 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,240 what happened with that but 108 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:50,879 you know i it's it's very frustrating 109 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:55,039 we need to to get this out on the table 110 00:07:52,319 --> 00:08:01,120 and we need people to understand what happened this is a 111 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:07,759 learning opportunity if we don't take advantage of it it's really really silly 112 00:08:05,039 --> 00:08:11,919 and i know for a fact that a number of members of the planning 113 00:08:09,599 --> 00:08:16,960 commission are not very happy about this either what this kind of stuff does is 114 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:20,400 it really degrades the zba and the planning commission 115 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:26,680 and i just wanted to say that and get it out in the public thank you 116 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,680 thank you steve 117 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:35,519 miss mathis who's next um chief tim do you have anything to say 118 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:35,519 for 119 00:08:38,839 --> 00:08:43,680 today you're gonna have to go ahead and mute yourself there you go yeah there 120 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:50,080 you go um you know my comments as a 121 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:54,240 restaurant owner and seeing the conversations that have happened at 122 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:54,240 different meetings 123 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:57,920 and conversations i've had 124 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:06,080 with business owners so it's really comes down to a decision 125 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:10,399 of whether we want to be together as berkeley businesses 126 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:16,240 or if we want to 127 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:21,120 remain divided and kind of protect our acorns um but i think we need to 128 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:25,360 uh you know it's if this doesn't pass it's 129 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,160 really a vote for division 130 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:33,200 um and it's uh 131 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:38,959 it's out of fear if we are able to drive any sort of restaurant or retail 132 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:44,720 business to berkeley everybody wins i i just don't understand um 133 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:48,640 the opposition um we want businesses to succeed 134 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:53,600 and that's really my my two cents 135 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:57,920 is to commit to some growth for berkeley 136 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,839 thank you thank you thank you and again we will be 137 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,880 commenting on that agenda item later and there will be an opportunity for those 138 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:10,560 with us virtually as well to to be able to comment um while we're discussing 139 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:17,519 that item miss mathis who is next 140 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:19,839 that is all i see at this time mr mayor all right 141 00:10:20,079 --> 00:10:22,320 sure 142 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:33,279 cinder 2772 cummings i just wanted to put out the good news that we have 143 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:37,760 our silver medalist kate nye who will be one of our grand marshals at the cruise 144 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:41,279 fest parade we also are honoring 145 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:48,000 our first responders there's a family 146 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:51,920 in particular here in the city and also all of our public safety officers 147 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,440 so we're pretty proud about that 148 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:59,680 thank you cindy and thank you for being instrumental i know and making sure that 149 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:04,399 katie was available and here and would be able to participate so thank you so 150 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:09,279 much that's awesome anybody else 151 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,279 before we wrap up public comments 152 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:15,760 all right we will move on to our order of business 153 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,240 this evening first up is our consent agenda 154 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:23,600 miss harold would you please read the items on tonight's consent agenda 155 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:27,519 one approval of the minutes matter of approving the minutes of the 38th 156 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:33,279 regular city council meeting on monday july 19 2021 two warrant matter of 157 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,440 approving warrant number one three six five 158 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:40,800 motion number m-44-21 matter of approving to cast 159 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:45,120 berkeley's official vote for the fouling to serve as a trustee 160 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:50,800 on the board of trustees for the mml workers compensation fund directing the 161 00:11:47,839 --> 00:11:55,920 city clerk to send in a marked ballot vote for three incumbent trustees and 162 00:11:53,279 --> 00:12:00,320 first and two first-time trustees for a four-year term beginning october 1st 163 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:04,320 2021. thank you miss harold is there a motion 164 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:08,959 to approve tonight's consent agenda so moved support moved by council member 165 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:14,320 gavin with support from council member price are there any comments or changes 166 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,320 from council 167 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:21,440 are there any questions or comments from those that are with us in person 168 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,920 miss mathis anybody on the virtual side 169 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:34,959 not at this time sir thank you uh seeing no comments uh miss harold 170 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:41,839 would you please call the role on tonight's consent agenda dean yes gavin 171 00:12:38,399 --> 00:12:47,680 yes hennen yes price yes baker yes blanchard yes turbrack yes 172 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:52,079 we now move on to our regular agenda miss harold would you please read item 173 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:56,560 number one recognitions presentations matter of any 174 00:12:54,959 --> 00:13:00,959 recognitions or presentations from the consent agenda 175 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:05,839 seeing no recognitions or presentations from the consent agenda we'll move on to 176 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:11,200 item number two motion number m-45-21 177 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:16,079 matter of authorizing the berkeley berkeley orchestra association 2325 178 00:13:14,079 --> 00:13:20,959 catalpa drive berkeley michigan to conduct berkeley tag days 2021 in the 179 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:26,800 city of berkeley on friday october 8th from 4 p.m to 9 p.m saturday october 9th 180 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:33,680 from 9 00 a.m to 5 p.m and sunday october 10th from 9 a.m to 5 p.m 181 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:36,959 is there a motion to approve m4521 so moved support 182 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,839 motion made by council member hennan with support from council member 183 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:44,639 blanchard mr baumgarten uh that was mayor 184 00:13:42,639 --> 00:13:48,959 it's good to see this come back to us this application has been reviewed by 185 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:52,800 each of the appropriate departments as noted in the application packet 186 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:56,480 students will stand outside businesses and sing and play instruments 187 00:13:54,880 --> 00:14:00,240 they will have a bucket to collect donations and these funds these will go 188 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:04,000 to the purchase of instruments scholarships music uh support programs 189 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,920 and the like the reason this comes before council is because this does take 190 00:14:05,839 --> 00:14:11,760 place in the public's right-of-way uh that's it that's owned by the city uh so 191 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:15,920 they come every year and they're they're always very diligent about uh filling 192 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:18,399 out the proper paperwork and it's this item has been recommended by the 193 00:14:17,199 --> 00:14:21,680 departments that reviewed it for approval 194 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:27,440 thank you uh comments or questions for mr 195 00:14:23,839 --> 00:14:27,440 baumgarten from council 196 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:34,240 recruit all our stuff and everything looks good uh the insurance is up to 197 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:38,560 date and so everything looks fine figured if you were good with a jack 198 00:14:37,199 --> 00:14:42,560 we would be okay um other questions any other comments 199 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:46,720 as mr baumgarten as a manager mentioned we are certainly excited to see this 200 00:14:45,279 --> 00:14:51,199 able to come back as we've seen some other events slowly 201 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:55,519 but surely beginning to come back we saw last week we've got a few more coming up 202 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:59,279 in the following weeks as long as we can continue to do these 203 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:02,959 things safely it's good to see certainly 204 00:15:01,199 --> 00:15:07,680 any comments from anybody here or is anybody representing the 205 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,920 orchestra association today either here or virtually 206 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:19,600 no one here virtually nobody here virtually okay 207 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:23,480 well with that and seeing no additional comments uh miss harold then would you 208 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:29,600 please call the roll on m4521 209 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:34,639 gavin yes hennen yes price yes baker yes blanchard yes dean yes turbrack yes 210 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:42,079 we now move on to item number three please 211 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:46,079 motion number m-46-21 matter of authorizing the mayor to 212 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:51,120 execute a contract between smart and the city of berkeley for fiscal year 2022 213 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:55,199 for municipal credit and community credit funds in order to provide public 214 00:15:53,199 --> 00:16:01,800 transportation services for the period of july 1st 2021 to june 30th 2022. 215 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:06,320 is there a motion to approve m4621 motion to approve emotion approved 216 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:10,800 by council member baker with support from mayor pro pro-tem dean 217 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,639 mr baumgarten thank you mayor this is an annual item 218 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:18,079 that continues our contractual relationship with the with the smart 219 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:23,920 organization as noted in the the application or the 220 00:16:21,199 --> 00:16:28,720 memo from your recreation director these these services have been absolutely 221 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:31,199 crucial in the past uh 18 months or so as 222 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:35,600 sometimes our department has been the only ones that have been available to 223 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:39,680 take our most vulnerable populations to the get the groceries go the doctors off 224 00:16:38,079 --> 00:16:44,639 appointments that they uh that they depend on regularly so um smart uh 225 00:16:42,959 --> 00:16:48,160 annually gets this to us a little bit after our fiscal year so this year is uh 226 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:53,279 is no different there but we've uh had a long history of 227 00:16:50,079 --> 00:16:53,279 putting these to good use 228 00:16:53,519 --> 00:16:59,199 any questions for city manager 229 00:16:57,519 --> 00:17:03,279 mr comment that's mark blanchard i'd like to let people are watching know 230 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,959 that this is five 40 231 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:09,120 dollars that we get to provide this service so it's it's quite a significant 232 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:12,720 chunk of money and uh our parks and rec people put it through very good use to 233 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:15,360 ensure that our senior citizens can get where they need to get 234 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,000 and doctors appointments that sort of thing so it's 235 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:22,559 great to get the money and it's well used by our city yes incredibly well 236 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:27,919 used and and very important especially as we saw over the past year and a half 237 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:32,080 other councilmember price yes um mr baumgarten could you tell any 238 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:36,240 residents who might be hearing about this program tonight a little bit about 239 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:39,039 what they would need to do to make use of it 240 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,240 uh we have a fantastic parks and rec staff i would say that that should be 241 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:46,000 anybody's first call if they're interested making use of these wonderful 242 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,720 services dan mcmahon our senior services coordinator 243 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:52,000 would be a fantastic person to reach out to through the rec department 244 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,840 anybody there would be able to help them but dan mcmahon does a runnable 245 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:59,600 wonderful job of being our point person for each of these services 246 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:03,200 sometimes even going as far as being the driver of the day even 247 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:06,960 that's how involved he is uh with this program so uh that'd be my first thing 248 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,480 if anybody asked me that question i would say reach out to dan mcmahon he'll 249 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:14,960 get you signed up and even if something's not initially available they 250 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,679 make every stride possible to to make sure that you get the service that 251 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,559 you're looking for thank you absolutely 252 00:18:19,679 --> 00:18:25,039 thank you other questions or comments i feel like 253 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,760 this is a little early i know smart i think this is earlier than normal i feel 254 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:31,360 like it's like an october thing usually they're october late this time august 255 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,640 late yeah okay well let's make it happen earlier 256 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:38,640 um are there any comments or questions from anybody that is with us today in 257 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,640 person 258 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:48,559 ms mathis any virtual comments sure yeah we do have um mr mcmahon here 259 00:18:45,919 --> 00:18:51,840 if you'd like to hear from wow my apologies mayor oh boy 260 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,919 dan welcome 261 00:18:53,280 --> 00:19:00,559 good evening uh mr mayor members of city council as mr baumgarten said 262 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:06,559 um this is a contract that comes to you every year um we are i am happy to 263 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:11,120 report that we are running our services in full capacity at this time 264 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:16,799 that means doctors appointments grocery stores uh hair salons you know the works 265 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:22,000 we run monday through friday uh 8 30 till about 4 pm each day 266 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:26,799 you can make an appointment by calling the rec center 267 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:31,280 at two four eight six five eight three four seven zero between the hours 268 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:36,320 of nine and eleven thirty um to make an appointment for those 269 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:40,960 rides uh our boundaries are eight mile to sixteen mile lasser to john r so 270 00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:43,200 that's just a little bit more information 271 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:47,280 um to uh 272 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:50,480 miss price's question earlier so again our phone number is 273 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:58,000 seven 248-658-3470 and uh we will do everything that we can to help you out 274 00:19:56,799 --> 00:20:01,039 and get you to and from your appointments and 275 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:06,960 um i cannot thank our drivers enough uh 276 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:10,080 james dunlap and tim renaud they've been working throughout this pandemic and 277 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:15,840 they deserve the most praise i can offer they are 278 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:20,720 both in the senior um demographics so they are not only 279 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:26,320 out there doing great work but they're also putting their uh 280 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:31,440 their selves in at risk um we are still uh requiring masks as we are public 281 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:35,520 transportation um so when you're riding you just have to wear a mask and 282 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:39,440 give us a call again if you if you need any assistance 283 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,559 well thank you dan if we knew you were uh here which i probably should ask 284 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:47,120 before if you were with us today i wouldn't have made mr baumgarten pretend 285 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,120 to say all those nice things about you 286 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,440 do you want to give out your personal cell phone too for everybody i heard you 287 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:57,760 give up no i'm just kidding dan i'm i'm just kidding there's a question 288 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:03,679 thank you your honor um how far in advance would someone have to call to 289 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:09,039 reserve a ride absolutely we do suggest at least a two day uh in advance to 290 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:13,120 for us to provide time to get the drivers their schedules uh however we do 291 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:17,039 allow people to call months in advance if you have an appointment in december 292 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:22,000 call now and we can get you on the schedule uh 293 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:25,600 for then we do ask for two days as i said but if you have something further 294 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,159 down the line we are more than willing to get those on the books for you at 295 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:33,520 this time thank you 296 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:37,840 any other questions or comments for mr mcminn 297 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:41,200 no all right well dan thank you for being with us this evening to answer 298 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:45,440 some of those questions and to provide some additional context and recognize 299 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,960 the drivers we've internally spoken about that so i 300 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,799 am very glad that you were able to to mention them and thank them 301 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:57,640 for the work that they've provided any comments from anybody else 302 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:09,039 uh seeing no additional comments uh miss harold would you please call the roll on 303 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:15,760 m4621 hennen yes price yes baker yes blanchard yes dean yes gavin yes turbrac 304 00:22:13,679 --> 00:22:20,320 yes we now move on to item number four 305 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:25,360 please miss harold motion number m-47-21 306 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:29,200 matter of authorizing hubble roth and clark for professional design and 307 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:33,120 engineering services related to the kenmore slash cornwall road 308 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:38,000 reconstruction and water main replacement project at a cost not to 309 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,000 exceed 310 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,559 three 149 311 00:22:39,679 --> 00:22:45,039 three dollars and seventy cents funding has 312 00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:48,240 been allocated in the road millage and water service accounts 313 00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:55,960 313-938-821-0 and 592-536-821-000 314 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:05,520 is there a motion to approve m 47-21 motion to approve 315 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,440 support abortion approved by council member blanchard with support from 316 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:13,840 council member baker mr baumgarten uh legos mayor as we 317 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,720 talked about way back in 2018 where we asked voters 318 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:21,679 for their support and putting a substantial investment in our roads 319 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:24,880 they would see both small patches medium patches and large and full 320 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:28,559 reconstructions we have done 321 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:32,960 the first of those two and now we are bringing to you the the scope and tasks 322 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:37,919 involved in doing the third category as well so in this situation it would be 323 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:41,520 the uh kenmore kenwall kenmore and cornwall 324 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:45,600 uh sections as outlined in your in your packets 325 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:49,120 there's also a uh the full scope is including your packet as well as the 326 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:53,520 individual tasks and project thresholds as well so as you can see with us in 327 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:58,320 person is derek schuler and roland alex our dpw director as well as our 328 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:02,000 engineering partner mr schuler mr alex good to see you this evening i will turn 329 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:06,240 it over to you thank you thank you mr baumgard mayor and city council so 330 00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:10,720 before you tonight is our recommendation for the next phase i guess what we call 331 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:13,600 year three 2022 which is a 332 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:19,039 road and water main reconstruction project similar to harvard back in 2017 333 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:23,039 a half mile section so and i'm joined by roland alex vice 334 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:27,520 president from hrc uh selecting the next road is 335 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,600 took quite a bit of time and what we did is we took the paiser road rankings as 336 00:24:29,679 --> 00:24:35,679 well as the water main rankings and working closely with hrc 337 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:40,559 put those together and identified basically our half dozen 338 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,400 worst half-mile segments which are shown on the map that we 339 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,840 provided to council just to let everybody know what those 340 00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:53,440 roads were that's wiltshire west of woodward two sections of bacon 341 00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:58,240 cumberland north of 12 mile harvard east of coolidge and then the cornwall 342 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:02,880 kenmore section as well so those were the six that rose to the top 343 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:07,360 and ultimately we selected kenmore and cornwall because it had the most water 344 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:12,080 main breaks over the last five years also consumers energy is going to be 345 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:15,200 replacing the gas main this fall on that street so that's a significant factor as 346 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:18,799 well so we've we've settled on that street 347 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:22,640 that'll be our next half mile segment with your approval 348 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,000 design takes several months we're hoping to bid this out during the winter months 349 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:29,360 and then have construction start next spring 350 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:35,520 the estimated construction cost is around 2.5 million dollars so 351 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:39,919 a significant expenditure will be using road millage funds as well as water main 352 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:43,679 funds to fund that so i'm happy to answer any questions you 353 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:47,440 have i'm sure there's a few roland and i can answer those 354 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:51,919 uh mr schuler just to compare the scope as you mentioned 2017 harvard project 355 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:56,640 what is the difference in the cost four years later 356 00:25:53,279 --> 00:26:01,679 i think it's really just increased in cost per se it's a very similar segment 357 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:04,559 we're doing the exact same things we do have a little bit more in there 358 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,080 for replacing any lead service lines that we 359 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:12,000 encounter so there's a little bit addition there 360 00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:17,679 but by and large it's the same scope of work uh it'll be sidewalk new road and 361 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:21,360 new eight-inch water main questions for mr schuler mr alex 362 00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:25,600 councilmember baker oh thank you honor thank you guys for bringing this to us 363 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:29,679 tonight and for your diligence in identifying where the the trouble spots 364 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,799 are on our city streets and doing the best we can to prioritize and make these 365 00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:38,159 tough decisions limited resources i think this was a good deciding uh 366 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:42,559 decision approach that you took um looking ahead obviously you gave us a 367 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:47,039 a rough time frame uh of when you know obviously ground 368 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:50,400 isn't going to be broken anytime soon but 369 00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:54,559 looking ahead to when we approach those uh those times could you just share with 370 00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:57,679 us a little bit about the communication that will take place with the residents 371 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,559 that will be affected either directly or indirectly 372 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:03,679 how we communicate with them and keep them abreast of timing so this 373 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:08,000 communication question and secondly the notion of trees so as i recall on the 374 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:12,480 harvard project which i think was a great success a lot of the um 375 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:17,039 the the wonderful trees along that road were unfortunately taken as part of that 376 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:20,320 uh project do we anticipate any kind of 377 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:24,320 you know similar considerations for trees this time so communication with 378 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:28,399 residents and trees sure thank you i'll go ahead and start with the trees um 379 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:31,200 trees are going to be a big issue for us and and we're going to make every 380 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,320 attempt to save trees we're going to follow the same 381 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:38,559 i guess procedure that we used for harvard which was to 382 00:27:36,159 --> 00:27:42,559 work with the engineers to identify the locations where we needed to have the 383 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,720 arbors look at the trees ultimately the arborist is going to look at all the 384 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,320 trees and we're going to make a decision about 385 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:53,200 what can be saved and what has to be removed there are going to be 386 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:56,399 constraints whether it's elevations size of easement those are sort of 387 00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:59,600 things that are going to come into play obviously the health of the tree also 388 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:04,000 but we're going to work closely with them to identify what can be saved and 389 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:08,159 what unfortunately cannot and we'll communicate that to everybody 390 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,120 i am happy to say that with the harvard project one of uh 391 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,360 i guess one of the things that we're proud of is we were able to plant more 392 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:19,360 trees ultimately than were removed we did have to remove some trees with 393 00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:22,799 harvard but we were able to plant more we've got a lot of big trees on the 394 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:26,080 north side and we're going to make every attempt to try to save those but we're 395 00:28:24,399 --> 00:28:28,720 going to have constraints we're going to have grading constraints 396 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:32,480 this is going to be all new concrete curb and gutter we need to make sure 397 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:36,720 that the right-of-way drains towards the road so we need to 398 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:40,640 hrc looking at elevations to make sure that we've got the proper elevation 399 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:44,720 ultimately but trees are going to be a big story in 400 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:48,080 this and i and i suspect after hrc gets going on design we'll be having several 401 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,360 meetings to determine you know where we're going can we shift 402 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,880 the road a little bit to save some trees you know i'm perfectly willing to 403 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:58,399 entertain that option obviously there's trees on both sides but you know can we 404 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,480 do some things to try to save trees we're more than willing to try to do 405 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,559 that communication wise 406 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:08,320 i don't know if many remember but on the harvard project we had a 407 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:12,080 meeting on the street in the fall i'm certainly 408 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:16,559 not opposed to doing that again it was pretty well attended 409 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:21,440 we deliver resident notices working closely with hrc regularly there were 410 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:25,679 several notices delivered with harvard at least a half dozen i suspect we'll be 411 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:29,360 doing the same thing encouraging residents to look at their 412 00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:33,360 own utilities beforehand it obviously makes sense to to look at your own lines 413 00:29:31,679 --> 00:29:36,960 before we come in and tear up the right-of-way so that'll be one of the 414 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:40,799 key things that we focus on as well so there will be many opportunities for 415 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:45,039 communications getting email addresses having that that meeting on site is if 416 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:49,440 folks want to attend as well as distributing the flyers so a lot more to 417 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,080 come and and really that communication plan 418 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:56,000 starts pretty quick so we'll be looking to get that going as soon as possible 419 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,640 because some of these things can take some time right 420 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,760 thank you thank you 421 00:30:00,159 --> 00:30:05,039 councilmember blanton thank you your honor i noticed we're going from a 422 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:09,760 six-inch wire line to an eight-inch water line is this going to tie into the 423 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,880 part on the webster where we came off the new coolies line to make that a 424 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,640 complete circuit which is something we've been talking about for years it is 425 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,919 it is and so we're going to upsize this main which will help us with fire flows 426 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:23,440 we're also going to be doing a little bit of water main work along webster so 427 00:30:21,919 --> 00:30:27,200 we're going to pick up where we left off last time and extend that water main to 428 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:31,600 the west and connect in with the new eight inch main 429 00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:36,000 thank you i just want to make sure that the residents understand that this is 430 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:39,840 being funded by both the infrastructure bond that we passed and their water 431 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:44,640 bills because some of their water bills go into a fund and the fund is used for 432 00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:48,000 fixing water main breaks and hopefully in the long term replacing the water 433 00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:53,200 main so we don't have to fix the water main breaks so 434 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,399 that's it thank you thank you 435 00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:02,399 additional questions councilmember hennan yes uh i have two questions after 436 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:07,039 my treat question was taken the first is you know this is an area 437 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:11,360 that we've had some historic basement flooding so is there anything in this 438 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,600 project that will help mitigate that in the future 439 00:31:12,399 --> 00:31:16,080 so we'll be um 440 00:31:14,399 --> 00:31:19,760 this section does have uh as far as i know all full restricted 441 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,159 covers so we'll be maintaining that i will say that 442 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:27,200 um the existence of the curb and gutter 443 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:30,559 section here is pretty well non-existent and we have roads that several roads 444 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:36,080 that have that as well so i think we'll be able to more efficiently store water 445 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:39,519 in the road section without it having to extend 446 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:43,279 into folks front yard so i think that's a positive with that we're going to make 447 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:47,760 sure that the line is structurally lined as we always do and 448 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:51,760 maintain those restricted covers hrc suggested and i think it's a great idea 449 00:31:49,919 --> 00:31:55,679 that we explore a green infrastructure alternative here as well 450 00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:59,200 so we're excited about that i don't know where that's going to end up for us 451 00:31:57,679 --> 00:32:02,159 but we're looking at the triangle there in the middle section to see if we can 452 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:06,320 incorporate some type of green infrastructure again i appreciate hrc 453 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:09,760 suggesting that i think it's a great idea we'll see where it ends up but that 454 00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:13,200 might be another way of assisting with the stormwater 455 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,640 and the other question i have is 456 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:22,559 it comes to me frequently and there's often a conception that uh concrete 457 00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:27,440 lasts longer and you know is more of value so why is it that the city you 458 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:32,159 know uses asphalt on many of our roads sure so we view asphalt 459 00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:35,679 for residential applications as the preferred method and and the main thing 460 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,039 that comes up for me at least is that you're able to 461 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:43,200 you know mill and overlay that surface after it reaches its life expectancy 462 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:47,840 very easily and cost effectively which concrete you've got to do full depth 463 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:51,440 replacement on that on a very similar life span so 464 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:55,600 we're very happy with how harvard has held up i would encourage anybody to 465 00:32:53,519 --> 00:33:00,480 take a look the road has done very well it is an extremely beefy cross section 466 00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:05,679 meaning it's very thick there's a deep stone base course with that hrc 467 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:09,120 recommended and it's held up very well so we're very happy with that section i 468 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,399 do think it is in the long run the best alternative for 469 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,919 berkeley thank you 470 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:21,039 mayor pro tempting thank you i'm i was really happy to see the um 471 00:33:18,159 --> 00:33:25,760 green infrastructure the potential for you know the storm water retention so 472 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:30,320 kudos to you roland and your team for bringing that up i do have a question 473 00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:35,039 about the lead service lines how do so are you testing every home 474 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:38,960 um to see if there's lead or do you know going into it do you have 475 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:42,320 an idea of which ones might be you know unfortunately we don't have a 476 00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:46,080 great idea of this you know we have old water service cards that give us some 477 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:50,240 information on the city side but that's not always the case on the private side 478 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:54,799 so i think what we're going to have to do is do a little bit of exploration 479 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,919 at the stop box which is near the curb to determine how many of those that we 480 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,799 have and then react from there so it's going 481 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,240 to take you know a little bit of exploratory work to determine how many 482 00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:09,839 lead services that we have thank you 483 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:13,520 uh mr alex you're with us this evening normally i see you in your basement um 484 00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:17,839 thank you for for being with us any anything you'd like to add um on the 485 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:20,800 project um not really i do love coming to berkeley meetings because derek does 486 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,480 such a great job of explaining the project and 487 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:29,200 i only get softball so no i think they're did a great job but 488 00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:32,879 it is exciting for the community to be investing in your infrastructure 489 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:36,079 you know if you're not putting money towards your roads towards your sewers 490 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,359 towards your water mains they're only going to continue to deteriorate and 491 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:44,000 somebody's going to have to pay that bill in the future so kudos to 492 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,359 the council for being proactive in the residence recognizing that it's a need 493 00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:50,320 that needs to be addressed now and not just kick down the road like so many 494 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:55,040 communities do so i have nothing else though thank you 495 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:57,839 thank you uh for being with us um and i think what mr schuler said a few minutes 496 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,560 ago is important if you haven't seen harvard or driven on harvard to to get a 497 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:06,320 sense of what it looks like now there's certainly a stark contrast and 498 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:10,000 in general a lot of that is the curbs and the gutters that are not super 499 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:14,560 existent on many of our roads anymore not at least a lot of them um and that 500 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,520 as mr schuler mentioned higher curbs are not going to hold that water there 501 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:22,480 instead of creeping up through front lawns and sidewalks hopefully 502 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,359 certainly not on its own going to help but just 503 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:29,200 the contrast and how the road looks and travels 504 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:32,640 certainly is what we want to see every road if in an ideal world we'll be able 505 00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:35,599 to do that obviously we can't so we're trying to plan these roads every four to 506 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:39,200 five years when we have the opportunity we have funds we can save 507 00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:42,800 to to make a project like this happen but it is very exciting when it does 508 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:46,960 happen and especially once we're able to complete this as was mentioned there 509 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:50,800 will be a lot more conversation as we get closer to what the process 510 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:54,240 actually looks like and the timelines and certainly the trees is going to be 511 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:58,960 an important part of what we do moving forward this is the first step to having 512 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:06,160 hrc get cracking right okay any comments from anybody 513 00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:06,160 that is with us in the audience today 514 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:15,680 ms mathis any comments uh with those visiting with us virtually today 515 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:22,079 i'm seeing no hands raised at this time okay 516 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:27,760 well seeing nobody else thank you both for being with us and miss harold would 517 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:33,119 you please call the roll on m4721 price 518 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:38,880 yes baker yes blanchard yes dean yes kevin yes kennen yes turbric yes 519 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:47,040 we now move on to item number five please on tonight's agenda 520 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:50,960 motion number m-48-21 matter of approving the appointments to 521 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:57,760 the zoning board of appeals is there a motion to approve m 48-21 522 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:01,040 so moved support promotion made by councilmember hannah with support 523 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:04,800 council member blanchard mr baumgarten thanks mayor you have four 524 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,920 appointments for you before you this evening 525 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:12,000 two alternate members to the zba as well as two regular full members 526 00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:15,440 the two alternates this evening are mark reilly 527 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:19,440 for a term would expire next year july 1st 2022 528 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:24,480 and next the other alternate is joanne sir with an appointment expiring uh july 529 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:29,599 1 of 2024. uh your next two are full members uh 530 00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:34,400 kevin wilner as a regular member with the term expiring of 2023 as well as 531 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:39,680 eric mcdonald who previously served as an alternate being promoted if you will 532 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:45,680 to a full regular board appointment expiring 20 july 1 2024 so that is the 533 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:49,839 slate before you this evening thank you 534 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:53,119 questions or comments from council on our volunteers this evening 535 00:37:54,560 --> 00:38:01,359 well certainly we all want to thank them for their service as we've talked about 536 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:05,119 in the past um you know the volunteers in these boards and commissions advisory 537 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,720 boards are certainly the backbone of much of what we are able to do up here 538 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:13,040 as council members it's incredibly important and these folks continue to to 539 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:18,480 give their time and talents um to our community and we are incredibly grateful 540 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,800 any comments from anybody with us this evening 541 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,280 miss mathis you know what's coming 542 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:32,079 not at this time sir not at this time all right well i want to thank all four 543 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:36,480 of them as i mentioned for uh volunteering their time and their 544 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:39,520 talents for our community and i'm sure they're all on pins and 545 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:44,480 needles right now waiting to see if they get approved so miss harold would you 546 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:54,160 please call the roll on m4821 baker yes blanchard yes dean yes 547 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:56,400 gavin yes hennen yes price yes turbric yes 548 00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:05,599 we now move on miss harold to item number six please 549 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:11,440 resolution number r-27-21 matter of extending r-20-20 550 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:16,240 for temporary outdoor slash seating and outdoor sales and 551 00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:19,920 service areas and to allow temporary enclosures in the outdoor areas in 552 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:27,119 response to covet 19 closures and restrictions 553 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:30,880 is there a motion to approve r2721 so moved 554 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:35,440 support motion made by mayor pro-tem dean i heard council member blanchard as 555 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:39,839 well as three other people mr baumgarten i think mayor 556 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,440 coburn still remains uh part of our daily lives here as you can probably 557 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:48,400 tell even if every day when you look at the news or even this evening with those 558 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,760 of us um you know still in the situation where there were masks for personal 559 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:55,119 protection that translates into people's 560 00:39:53,440 --> 00:40:01,119 apprehension to hurriedly rush back indoors and be close 561 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:05,839 to one another be under the same roof and so what we're suggesting for council 562 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,480 this evening is a continuation of the actions that they have taken up to this 563 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,800 point which would be restrict the outdoor 564 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,280 dining restrictions that we have in our regular ordinance 565 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,240 um that would be 566 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:22,319 allowing those people to use parking lots or 567 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:27,200 their own space as well as the north robina north phillips south 568 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:32,160 griffith south thomas east dorothea right of ways owned by the city as well 569 00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:35,680 any of those are on the table for restaurants that are potentially 570 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:39,440 interested in taking advantage of that if they find that it would better suit 571 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:43,440 their restaurant or their operations to do so 572 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:48,079 in addition to that uh this particular ordinance now uh with 573 00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:51,839 this continuation uh city council or we're also administration is asking the 574 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:55,839 city council permission to study the feasibility 575 00:40:53,119 --> 00:41:00,240 of creating a public plaza at griffith on the south side of 12 mile this is an 576 00:40:58,319 --> 00:41:03,839 area that has been closed now for quite a while 577 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:08,400 we've gotten high marks people have remarked that they like the outdoor 578 00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:12,640 dining they like the visibility they like to see people 579 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:17,040 utilizing the space our own master plan in 2007 called for 580 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:22,400 public plaza to be created downtown it specifically said robina the city as you 581 00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:25,520 recall attempted that um it had limited success uh but one of the things that we 582 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,920 heard as part of the feedback was that it felt 583 00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:35,040 uh rushed and it didn't um didn't really have the public community embrace it 584 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:39,440 like we would have hoped uh so not so learning from from past uh feedback we'd 585 00:41:37,839 --> 00:41:43,200 like again the opportunity to study something that could be fully embraced 586 00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:46,079 by the community uh the city would be able to use it in 587 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,760 any of our departments including recreation 588 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:54,640 local community groups our chamber for various events 589 00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:56,880 uh local businesses uh even local groups even 590 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,040 people that have like the taste of berkeley could potentially go there i 591 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:03,359 think that's been part of the conversation at one point uh but any so 592 00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:07,200 anyway a public gathering place that has high visibility right in our in our 593 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,760 downtown are our heaviest trafficked areas this would be open for anyone to 594 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,680 use uh it wouldn't be dedicated to any one 595 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:17,440 particular business or use all the time so 596 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:20,800 um again if if not for our master plan calling for something 597 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:24,240 like this to be located downtown we wouldn't be asking for for this to even 598 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:29,599 move forward but it's a culmination of various events 599 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:34,319 that bring this before you this evening so with that uh our community 600 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:37,440 development director erin schlutto is has 601 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,880 authored the resolution as well as the memo you find then they see in your 602 00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:45,839 packet this evening outlining what a feasibility study for public plaza it 603 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:49,440 would look like as well as has her department is tasked with the 604 00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:53,119 administrative functionality of permitting the temporary use permits for 605 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,920 the outdoor dining so she is absolutely your content expert 606 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:59,760 here sir director schlutel we'll turn it over to 607 00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:03,520 you there anything you'd like to add to give us some additional context well uh 608 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,920 thank you uh good evening everyone the city manager outlined it really 609 00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:12,319 beautifully um the one thing i wanted to focus on is 610 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:15,520 the extension of this of this relaxation of the temporary outdoor dining 611 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:19,119 enclosures and stuff like that this is the longest one we've ever asked for and 612 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:23,119 the intent of that is to make sure that we have given ourselves enough time not 613 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:27,920 only to conduct the feasibility study and see if it works there not only with 614 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:31,280 the south griffith but um on a dorothy at coolidge as well but also to engage 615 00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:35,200 the public we really want to make sure that we have 616 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:38,560 the buy-in and the understanding and we have the input not only from the local 617 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:42,319 businesses that are in that area but the residents who will be impacted by this 618 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:46,880 type of closure as well there are a number of things that we we did and um 619 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,560 we really want to make sure that we we bring them to to our table we work with 620 00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:53,280 them we talk with them is there something that they have a concern with 621 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,839 that we didn't think about well let's let's look at that 622 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,200 um so extending this to the end of next year 623 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,480 will really give us an opportunity to do an in-depth community engagement 624 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,160 engagement strategy now that we're opening things back up and we can do 625 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:11,839 face-to-face engagement we also extended it that long to make 626 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:16,720 sure and build in uh time so that way we don't have to come back for an extension 627 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:19,680 from you so we can maybe we'll get this done in six months and we can come back 628 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:23,040 and say okay we're done this is the recommendation blah blah and then we can 629 00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:26,400 shorten this resolution but the intent is to not 630 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:30,640 extend it beyond this this end date of december 31st 2022. 631 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,680 additionally it will give us time to explore our ordinances all of our 632 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:38,079 ordinances currently right now with outdoor dining sales and service areas 633 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,920 is related is regulated by special land use approval now as i outlined in my 634 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:45,680 review letter uh review memo here it's that's a complex 635 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,880 thing and looking at it from a special land 636 00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:51,680 use perspective when there's seven members i'm sorry nine members of the 637 00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:56,319 planning commission who look at it first and make a recommendation and then city 638 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,079 council ultimately adopts it or approves it 639 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:02,000 if we were to make that an administrative function we really need 640 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:04,960 to make sure we look at the parking and the public 641 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,079 implications and the neighborhood impacts and those are all things that 642 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,440 are discussed in the public meeting so if we were to to look at making that 643 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:16,480 more of an administrative function we want to make sure we don't have any 644 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:20,160 unintended consequences due to that finally the feasibility that i mentioned 645 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,359 um so this would really give us the 646 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:26,800 opportunity to study this and and focus and make sure that this is uh this is a 647 00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:31,280 beneficial thing for the community in this area at this time 648 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:35,680 okay thank you uh because we've had 649 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:40,000 some very passionate members of our community already uh during our initial 650 00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:43,119 public comments i'm going to open it up to the residents that are here first in 651 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:48,079 person um to comment we'll go then to the folks 652 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:52,319 that are visiting with us uh via the hybrid model to talk to us as well and 653 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,520 then council will ultimately discuss but i want to give everybody that's here 654 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:58,480 that would like to speak an opportunity to speak first 655 00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:03,480 so if you're with us and you'd like to comment on uh the 656 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:07,839 resolution in front of us r2721 now is the perfect time 657 00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:14,920 can we do a second time 658 00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:22,000 uh mr sabanian bennett did speak during public comments i i feel like if people 659 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:28,839 did not remember that no anybody i mean no no no no anybody that's with us here 660 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,839 sorry i didn't mean that okay all right 661 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,720 hello mr mayor and city council i'm not i'm 662 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,960 not going to go to these meetings so i apologize for the informalness but um 663 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,359 i'm april macron and my husband steve and i have been doing business in 664 00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:48,640 berkeley in the corner greater than 12 miles since 2000 665 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,839 we love the berkeley community and have thoroughly enjoyed growing our business 666 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,880 here over the years we also own yellow door art market and 667 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:58,079 manage four apartments above our catching fireflies shop 668 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,359 we are glad the city offered unique options for businesses to survive during 669 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,400 these unprecedented times and we think berkeley common did a great job 670 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:08,000 transforming the street into an open eating area and have encouraged our 671 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:11,599 guests to dine there however we would like to see griffith reopen again this 672 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,119 fall we purchased our catching fireflies 673 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,800 building as a highly visible corner location with easy access at an 674 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:22,559 intersection with a traffic light closing griffith diminishes all these 675 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:26,000 advantages and devalues our property investment as we feel because corner 676 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:29,839 corner you know property investments are just more valuable than in the line of 677 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,880 street you know businesses um it's inconvenience for our team 678 00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:36,480 members customers and tenants not to have easy access to our delighted side 679 00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:40,319 street that directly borders our business we feel the many questions from 680 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:43,440 our guests over the past year inquiring when the street would reopen and we 681 00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:47,359 expressed it was a temporary sacrifice to help fellow businesses get through 682 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:50,880 crippling capacity limitations um berkeley common also purchased a 683 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:54,480 highly visible corner location with the easy access and intersection with the 684 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:58,559 traffic light this purchase did not include a 2 000 square foot outdoor 685 00:47:56,559 --> 00:48:03,040 patio which is roughly the same amount of space of their entire first floor 686 00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:06,240 between the wide sidewalk that borders griffith along the front of the building 687 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:10,079 at 12 mile we feel they would have adequate space for outdoor dining 688 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:13,599 options moving forward another concern is catching fireflies is 689 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:17,440 open seven days a week um ten to six month through saturday ten to 690 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:21,119 eight on thursdays and twelve to five on sundays it is frustrating that the 691 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,480 street closure is only used five evenings a week and more recently on 692 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,839 saturday afternoons and just very recently on sunday afternoons and let's 693 00:48:26,319 --> 00:48:32,400 not forget it can't be used when the weather is not cooperative either 694 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,280 i'm just curious has a study ever been done with the traffic patterns on 695 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:39,200 griffith i know having a business that borders 696 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:43,520 the intersection for the past 21 years many more patrons would benefit from 697 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:46,800 using that street to get through and easy access to all the stores in the 698 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,680 area i understand a recent survey also 699 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:53,200 pitched the street closure as a positive public space 700 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:56,160 um and that extended closure for 15 months would give them time to study 701 00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:59,760 this um i just think it's only reasonable for businesses and residents 702 00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:03,119 to know more specific actionable plans on what is going to be study before it's 703 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:07,359 passed i mean and and i'm just you know i'm 704 00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:10,720 curious about the survey results too i know a big survey was released i would i 705 00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:14,640 would be very interested in maybe the public postings of those um so everybody 706 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,160 has a better idea where everybody you know falls 707 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:21,119 on the spectrum for their opinion on this 708 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:24,160 and also for berkeley common i would imagine they would want to have that 709 00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:28,800 space open for a while it's not public space because it is to their advantage 710 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:32,319 you know having their um you know patio help help them but for example like how 711 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,839 would this be advertised as a public space since it's been only used by a 712 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:39,200 private business for the past year um is a birthday common good lend their 713 00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:44,880 host set up for you know patrons to enjoy like take out lunches from tlc or 714 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:48,079 cams or cottage injury in the day um how about when brooklyn commons open like 715 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:51,440 what percentage of and if they keep their tables there like what percentage 716 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,000 you know would be available for open availability it's just i feel there's 717 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:58,079 like a lot of really unanswered questions before we 718 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,920 just like sign off and let's do it you know 719 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,960 um these are just a few of the numerous 720 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:06,800 questions to be addressed before a closure extension 721 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:10,240 um and maybe if it's not studied as a public you know place what are the 722 00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:14,240 ramifications of one single business benefiting from a permanent closure of a 723 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:17,359 public street that's just even a longer list of 724 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,400 questions to be addressed but and on a safety note 725 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,839 since griffith has been closed for over a year many vehicles that travel along 726 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:27,520 the alleyway regularly has increased their speed 727 00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:31,520 and we've seen them zip right by you know and so that is a safety center for 728 00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:35,280 us for our customers across that path to enter or return from our shop um as well 729 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,800 as tenants who part directly behind our catching fireflies building 730 00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:42,319 and also the louder sounds coming from the outdoor eating area on a special 731 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:45,680 themed music nights um from or from busier weekend crowds you know are 732 00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:48,880 definitely a concern for our tenants and future tenants if griffith was to be 733 00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:53,359 permanently closed as we did not purchase a building next to a bustling 734 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:57,280 you know outdoor evening crowd so thank you for listening to my 735 00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:02,160 concerns and considering my business um because my building is by far the 736 00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:05,200 most impacted by the street closure i do have copies of my notes if you have any 737 00:51:03,839 --> 00:51:10,240 interest of having them i'm happy to pass them out if not that's fine too so 738 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,960 thank you april and i appreciate the email um 739 00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:22,559 as we move through um these these comments here i do 740 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:27,440 i have a request i do not want this to 741 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:30,559 get into various namings of businesses and back and forth between anybody that 742 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:35,280 is here um so 743 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:40,079 i asked for your comments about your own personal perspective please and not uh 744 00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:43,680 any putting on the other businesses that may be involved in this just because 745 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,000 i i just don't want to get into a spot where people feel like they have to then 746 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:49,920 respond to everything or respond to something put anybody in an awkward spot 747 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,800 in a public meeting when we want to support all of our businesses here in 748 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:57,040 the community and certainly don't want to put pit anybody against each other so 749 00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:00,880 i just want to make that clear and i ask that in all of your comments kind of if 750 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,400 you can take that in consideration i would be very appreciative 751 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,559 cindy looks like you're coming out come on 752 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:12,800 cinda owner of the lunch cafe first i want to 753 00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:17,200 thank our city 754 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:24,079 and our council for making things v you've been very accommodating 755 00:52:20,319 --> 00:52:29,839 we had asked because the my building in particular went through a 756 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:34,559 sale during the middle of this pandemic and so there was a there's a new owner 757 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,599 and they have 758 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,160 a lot of employees and my 759 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:45,359 poor staff myself my old body 760 00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:48,160 running around in the back parking lot because we had carryouts 761 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:53,040 we worked through this entire pandemic 762 00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:57,599 only because of staff shortage have we had to cut our saturday hours because i 763 00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:02,160 think my staff would kill me if i made them off saturday but 764 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:05,599 i do want to thank you for that um it is 765 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:12,000 because you've been very accommodating and you have suggested oh well you can 766 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:18,240 do this you can close the street you can put 767 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:22,559 tables out in front and absolutely we can okay i don't have um 768 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,599 uh the accessibility 769 00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:30,720 of having to block off the back parking lot i 770 00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:34,800 don't have i didn't hear in the reading of this 771 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:39,920 you know the north side of griffith that we can you know put tables out 772 00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:44,480 there or anything else i 773 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:48,000 do have a wider portion of my sidewalk and 774 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:52,880 i can use i have two tables out there i need 775 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:58,800 more i guess and we all 776 00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:02,800 not naming any we all business owners have had to recreate 777 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:07,119 you either recreate or you lock your doors 778 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:12,000 and that's how it was and it's 779 00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:17,280 now i know that covet is not over mr hennen i do realize that firsthand 780 00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:22,960 um i'm just responding to that but um 781 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:27,680 we're moving forward we can't look back we're moving forward 782 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:32,440 and moving forward i love what common has done i think it 783 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:39,680 is great i 150 percent 784 00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:43,599 support any parklet any any area in the city that will 785 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:48,319 bring people downtown better our business structure 786 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:51,599 do any of it i think it is awesome i think it is great 787 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:56,400 um it definitely 788 00:54:53,680 --> 00:55:00,559 it's needed for sure um i know that the master plan states 789 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:06,640 robina um i would love i have had many 790 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:11,280 customers who have said oh could i take on on the nice days because yes people 791 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,400 want to eat outside can i take my lunch and can i go across 792 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:18,880 the street i'm sorry you can't you know that's 793 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:22,559 that's not ours okay it's not opened it's not open to 794 00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:26,559 the public so i guess what i'm 795 00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:33,599 saying for our cafe is that if we can have an open 796 00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:36,640 area and make it usable to everyone if you get a coffee down at 797 00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:40,160 the the other place that's down the street 798 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:50,480 and you want to go read a book i mean whatever it's to make it not 799 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:55,680 for one particular business you know i love you guys dearly as 800 00:55:52,559 --> 00:56:00,480 business owners and a restaurant and it's 801 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:06,160 it is this is not directed to it it's just let's make it let's 802 00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:08,480 let's be a family let's put it all together 803 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:12,319 and not 804 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:16,040 push people out thank you thank you cindy 805 00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:28,559 hello mr mayor city council um i own vitrine i'm not on 12 mile i do 806 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:33,520 not own a restaurant um the first time i saw this space my name is susan susan 807 00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:37,680 rogel sorry um the first time i saw this space we 808 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:42,640 were doing an interview for a ladies night out a long time ago 809 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:47,040 i had a business in ann arbor for years the second i laid eyes on it i said we 810 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:51,920 need this permanently it's dynamic it makes us competitive 811 00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:56,799 it's a outdoor space it's we should need more than one not just one 812 00:56:54,160 --> 00:57:02,319 i saw it as such a forward thinking space not in answer to the kovid um the 813 00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:06,240 code has taught us a lot and this is one of the many things that's taught us that 814 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:10,480 this is engaging and it's compelling and it makes the city very dynamic and 815 00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:15,599 instead of driving right through you're stopping and enjoying it i love this 816 00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:20,880 space the second i saw it i think we could do more you know with 817 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:26,400 it um who's using it and all those things are all those moving parts um i 818 00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:29,839 think it affects the city as a whole it makes us 819 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:35,119 extremely competitive and i i can't say enough about keeping 820 00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:39,280 this space and adding more i'm doing more not less 821 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:44,079 figuring out what our dear friends and and peers and these hard-working 822 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:46,400 well-meaning people find wrong with it and 823 00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:50,240 reacting if it's a speed issue how do other towns 824 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:55,200 that have done this well um 825 00:57:52,000 --> 00:58:00,640 you know react to slowing people down um if it's something about you know the 826 00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:04,400 time it is and the noise i will tell you in ann arbor um 827 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:07,599 that noise just makes it hip and happening and people really love that 828 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:12,720 you know what i mean it's it gets people out um 829 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:16,799 but so reacting to rather than fight or flight you know finding out what's wrong 830 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:21,040 with it and and fixing it and not only having just one but more than one 831 00:58:19,359 --> 00:58:25,520 so i just heard it was on the ballot and i thought i'd come and share thank you 832 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,520 thank you all 833 00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:31,040 uh mr superintendent bennett i i do not want to make you feel like you can't 834 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:37,040 come back up again if you wanted to comment again yes this time if you would 835 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:41,760 like to we're on it's the right time again i will double down on uh what our 836 00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:45,599 friend from vitrine said um a lot of families in the neighborhood 837 00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:49,280 directly behind get a kick out of coming down there 838 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:53,440 so i'm not just representing my personal opinion i said i would come on behalf of 839 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:56,799 a lot of the neighbors in the community obviously there's differing opinions on 840 00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:02,000 different things but i'm coming in support of 841 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:07,520 this specific extension while we do our due diligence to find do our research do 842 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:11,760 what we're supposed to um but again we hope to extend these types of things be 843 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:16,319 progressive not be afraid to be left behind let's make berkeley 844 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:23,119 unique and cool in a place where people want to move into and continue to deepen 845 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,119 our city thank you thanks 846 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:32,079 [Music] hi 847 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:37,119 i'm katie cutcher owner one of the three owners of berkeley common and um 848 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:42,240 i'm here to speak about the extension tonight as well as i i 849 00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:45,520 didn't really realize the other piece of this was on the agenda today i thought 850 00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:49,680 we were just talking about the extension not making this a permanent fixture 851 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:53,920 right now but i will touch on both subjects i first and foremost want to 852 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:58,480 thank council for being progressive saying yes when you could have said no 853 00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:02,480 it kept us in business this has been a challenging year for all 854 01:00:00,319 --> 01:00:08,079 my retailers and restaurants and personally mentally 855 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:11,920 everybody here sitting here together we are an inclusive business always have 856 01:00:10,319 --> 01:00:16,079 been always well we invested here for many reasons 857 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:19,359 because we are a community business never did i want anybody not to have 858 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:22,240 lunch in our space actually if anybody asks us i say hop 859 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,599 the fence and i will continue to do so 860 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:31,680 that going forward outdoor dining is imperative for 861 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:37,680 restaurants right now we are not moving uh the covet button 862 01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:41,359 for it's going to a different place a different phase we are masked up as of 863 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:46,319 tomorrow again we are not using our 864 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:50,000 indoor private dining uh event room because of coven it is just too 865 01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:54,400 dangerous we are operating an outdoor dining room 866 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:58,079 right now and i don't think it's a bad thing and i'm not ashamed of it and i 867 01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,880 think it's only brought business to the city 868 01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:04,319 every time somebody comes in and they can't get in whether it's restrictions 869 01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:08,720 or anything like that we tell them to go shopping and discover berkeley 870 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:14,640 and the feedback has i have never gone to this store before and we're coming 871 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:18,319 back so i hope that continues the other big part of this is the 872 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:22,480 relationships and partnerships we're developing with the other businesses in 873 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:26,319 town we're sharing ideas we're inviting progress together and we're promoting a 874 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:31,839 thriving downtown something that would be a shame to squash 875 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:35,920 it is code is open pandora's box the community support behind this project 876 01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:40,480 has been overwhelming positive can it be tweaked absolutely do we want to tweak 877 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:44,799 it with you one hundred percent uh do we want this community space one 878 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:49,280 hundred percent it has never been our idea just to benefit financially from 879 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:53,520 this space to be our own we serve on boards my sister and i 880 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:58,079 we live breathe eat berkeley and that's why we're here 881 01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:03,440 we want to see other things like this exist is this number one initiative 882 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:08,079 possibly could there be others i hope so we'll work very hard for that 883 01:02:06,319 --> 01:02:12,720 why we realize this is not everybody's shared vision we're asking for extension 884 01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:16,400 on these areas tonight and we invite an open discussion for anything more 885 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:19,839 permanently in the future this is just one step of many 886 01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:24,799 so this doesn't have to be definite or permanent or has to be so negative we 887 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:28,799 want to continue to be a good business in this area we want to be good 888 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:32,319 neighbors to all of our businesses um 889 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:36,799 and time of is of the essence so we ask you to approve this tonight for just the 890 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:41,280 extension the bigger discussion can exist at a later date thank you 891 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,280 thank you 892 01:02:47,039 --> 01:02:52,079 hello good evening i am chris gross 893 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:55,680 one of the three partners at berkeley common 894 01:02:53,119 --> 01:03:00,079 my sister spoke to most of the things i wanted to say 895 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:04,960 i guess i just wanted to add that first again i'll echo our appreciation 896 01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:07,520 um our business was saved by having this outdoor space 897 01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:11,280 um and second 898 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:15,200 it's been our intention and it will continue to be to to work as a team in 899 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:19,680 berkeley um and lit in the way we live and the way 900 01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:25,520 we run our business i think are the same we we want to project positivity and 901 01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:28,480 inclusion um we want to invite people in this 902 01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:32,400 having this outdoor space and this visibility has brought people 903 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:36,960 from outside berkeley i have all of the data because i have a 904 01:03:34,319 --> 01:03:41,760 system now to track that and there are people coming from 45 minutes and away 905 01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:45,200 to dying outdoors 906 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:48,480 because we had that available last winter when not many people did 907 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:52,000 and i i don't know if it'll be true but it i it very 908 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:56,160 well might be true that this winter is the same thing people will still want to 909 01:03:54,319 --> 01:04:02,480 eat outside and we are aiming to provide that um 910 01:03:59,359 --> 01:04:08,319 and i i i've heard um some of the concerns tonight and i'm i'm 911 01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:12,559 sorry i haven't heard those before but i think if we prove that's the whole 912 01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:16,480 reason to approve this extension is to be able to hear those concerns and 913 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:21,039 address them we want to be good partners we want to be good neighbors 914 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:25,119 and that's why we volunteer here work here live here 915 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:33,200 we're all in um and we are happy to partner up in any way 916 01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:36,240 and move forward as a city and bring people here 917 01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:39,559 thanks thank you chris 918 01:04:44,319 --> 01:04:51,039 good evening mike mcginnis interim executive director for berkeley's 919 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:56,079 downtown development authority and to the esteemed honorable local elected 920 01:04:54,240 --> 01:05:00,000 officials and public servants thank you for your leadership i wanted to you know 921 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:04,160 these do the your honor thing so i just want to lay it on thick 922 01:05:02,799 --> 01:05:09,039 on behalf of the entire mile stretch of 12 mile and 923 01:05:07,359 --> 01:05:12,880 the entire mile stretch of coolidge that falls within 924 01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:17,920 the downtown district authority footprint i want to encourage for the 925 01:05:15,359 --> 01:05:23,200 sake of allowing downtown berkeley to have that competitive advantage 926 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:26,880 regionally speaking and to not lose that i would hate for the multiple 927 01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:30,480 restaurants to have that competitive disadvantage 928 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:34,079 if it were to expire or lapse in just a matter of weeks so 929 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:37,760 i think that this has been a very instructive and helpful deliberation 930 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:42,480 this evening and that can continue beyond this evening and beyond this 931 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:47,760 chamber where we can make it as maximum benefit for all entities not solely 932 01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:52,000 restaurants and i look forward to the dda being at that table and being a part 933 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:55,760 of those conversations to make any decision 934 01:05:53,039 --> 01:06:01,599 with temporary or long term to make it the best bang for the buck and the best 935 01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:04,559 residual impact for our downtown and residents 936 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:10,000 i think the empirical and anecdotal evidence speaks to this temporary 937 01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:14,240 measure benefiting both the community overall but specifically our downtown 938 01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:19,440 corridors with that extension and so i just want to offer that perspective from 939 01:06:16,319 --> 01:06:24,160 what's been shared through the dda to you this evening thank you very much 940 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,160 thank you mike 941 01:06:29,839 --> 01:06:36,799 good evening everybody uh dan mccourt at 30 63 12 mile just a 942 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:40,960 couple buildings down from the griffith that we're discussing but 943 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:44,160 derek got out of here tonight before i got a chance to give him some major 944 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:48,240 props on uh dpw's handling of 945 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:52,640 the incredibly disgusting dumpster situation that we've got going on in the 946 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:55,039 back of that parking lot um tried for years and years and years and 947 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:59,200 the only reason i bring it up tonight is because many of us here tonight are part 948 01:06:57,119 --> 01:07:01,440 of that guilty party and i just want to now that we've got everybody in the same 949 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:05,680 room that we all get on the same page it's 950 01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:08,720 literally a rat not even a rat trap it's a rat haven 951 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:12,559 uh it got to the point where there was in several inches of rotting garbage 952 01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:15,520 along below the dumpsters themselves there's 953 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:18,640 three dumpsters in there we talked about maybe removing the brown one hopefully 954 01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:23,039 leaving more room we can't keep people from dumping 955 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:26,160 you know uh old restaurant supplies and things like that 956 01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:30,079 in the middle of the night but we can put our own garbage in our own bags put 957 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:35,359 those bags into the dumpster the way that it's supposed to happen 958 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:38,559 derek um has been instrumental in 959 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:43,359 his feedback and then getting that place cleaned out just uh this last week 960 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:46,319 but i challenge everybody that has a business here that uses that dumpster to 961 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:49,760 take your own garbage out on once in a while pick up the stuff with your 962 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:52,160 address on it and put it in the dumpster so 963 01:07:50,799 --> 01:07:56,400 that said um in talking about the outdoor dining 964 01:07:54,160 --> 01:08:00,720 in the space that we're looking at i've eaten everywhere as you can tell this 965 01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:03,839 doesn't happen by mistake um wonderful restaurants love berkeley live just a 966 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:07,200 mile away and 967 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:11,280 i'm all for eating outside i like eating i like eating outside 968 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:15,680 i wasn't super aware of the understanding as to what 969 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:19,679 this meant i i was thinking that this would be an open space where someone 970 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:24,400 could get something from a restaurant a cocktail and some dinner and walk over 971 01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:27,920 to the space and enjoy that space that to me seems like a city space that would 972 01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:31,839 be something that during the coke this was a great idea at the time it was the 973 01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:34,960 right idea at the time my concern is two things first of all 974 01:08:33,759 --> 01:08:39,440 safety right now 975 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:44,080 are the outdoor spaces being observed with inspections like our buildings 976 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:48,080 do they get looked at there right now there are extension 977 01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:53,679 cores running through puddles there are various things that would not pass if 978 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:56,799 the inspectors came into my building so safety first right we want to make 979 01:08:55,359 --> 01:09:01,040 sure that everybody is safe in doing this and enjoying themselves 980 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:05,120 while dining outdoors and the second is inclusion you know to 981 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:08,080 me if it's a city space it's a city street if you guys are going to make 982 01:09:06,719 --> 01:09:12,719 this decision and i don't envy your decision tonight 983 01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:17,359 the street i can see maybe a sidewalk being able to encompass that as your own 984 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:21,520 city street not so much if it's going to be a city street like that it should be 985 01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:25,199 open we shouldn't have to hop offense to enjoy something 986 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:29,199 on a city street that we all pay taxes for so we pay taxes based on the square 987 01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:32,719 footage of our building that's where we should own our business 988 01:09:30,799 --> 01:09:36,000 if we want to have the ability to do this we did this during covid it was 989 01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:40,480 great but i urge you to reconsider and and not 990 01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:43,679 extend the outdoor dining for the end of griffith anyway if you're 991 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:47,040 looking for an option moving forward my building will 992 01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:51,679 be available you can raise that 993 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:56,400 create a nice green space and not have to worry about a street so 994 01:09:53,920 --> 01:10:01,480 that's all thank you thank you we're not raising your building though 995 01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:01,480 sorry 996 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:07,440 any additional comments from folks that are here before i go to our folks that 997 01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:14,560 are with us virtually can i have some clarification 998 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:20,080 what aaron presented okay what you're voting on is 999 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:25,199 the continued closure of griffith avenue 1000 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:27,600 south of 12 mile for 1001 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:34,400 only no no no no we're voting on the temporary restrictions that are in 1002 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:39,120 multiple places right now that anybody has access to that happens to be one of 1003 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:42,719 those locations griffith that is under this ordinance right or this resolution 1004 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:46,000 right now that's why it's come up it's it's not really what the conversation is 1005 01:10:44,719 --> 01:10:50,000 about it's a part of it the conversation's about extending the 1006 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:52,960 restrictions extending for all businesses across berkeley under the 1007 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,840 ordinance correct okay earn the resolution yes 1008 01:10:56,480 --> 01:11:01,360 okay so we'll look we will 1009 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:04,880 we will council has a lot of questions and i think it's going to clarify a lot 1010 01:11:02,719 --> 01:11:08,159 of what you you are asking right now again i want to give everybody an 1011 01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:12,800 opportunity to comment first based on the feedback that we've heard um and 1012 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:15,920 then we will obviously deliberate and we have certainly questions of our own uh 1013 01:11:14,719 --> 01:11:19,520 that i think are going to go a long way to helping to maybe clarify some of the 1014 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:22,560 questions that have come up recently is that fair if not you can come back up 1015 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:25,600 don't worry i'm not going to not going to say you can't come up anymore 1016 01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:35,440 i do know because i am a resident of the city 1017 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:38,880 um the traffic on beverly 1018 01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:45,040 people know that griffith is closed 1019 01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:49,920 and it is a four-way stop um 1020 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:52,640 no it's not it's not 1021 01:11:51,199 --> 01:11:55,840 people blow that stop sign 1022 01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:03,920 multiple times a day night doesn't matter so it's that's a concern 1023 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:07,040 for me there's been accidents there i know that i appreciate that feedback's 1024 01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:10,320 in you that's not something that necessarily we hear about all the time 1025 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:14,560 but i can promise you that we do know a department um right there across the 1026 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:19,600 street that would love to monitor that area if it does in fact 1027 01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:23,040 what's happening what you mentioned okay miss mathis let's go to the folks that 1028 01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:27,199 are with us virtually here so we can allow them to to get their comments on 1029 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,440 i know we had one already he's certainly welcome to come back again 1030 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:40,560 tim you're welcome to speak yep yeah i think i you know although i said 1031 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:45,360 it at the wrong time because i thought i was uh late so um i'm not gonna repeat 1032 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:48,640 myself i think we've been yapping 1033 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:53,440 long enough um just um 1034 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:58,400 that's it thank you for the opportunity certainly 1035 01:12:55,040 --> 01:13:02,400 miss mathis who else who's next there's no one else at this time 1036 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:06,320 all right so mr baumgarten and director salute i'm 1037 01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:10,719 going to throw it back over to you just for a minute um we're going to again 1038 01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:16,719 clarify exactly what we're doing today what what this ordinance r27 and our 28 1039 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:20,800 i believe i think it's our 28 right right after yes okay what those 1040 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:23,360 ordinances do and why it seems that we're having two conversations at once 1041 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:28,159 here okay yes i'd be happy to address so the 1042 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:32,400 resolution before you this evening is a continuation of the resolution that has 1043 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:34,800 been effect in effect since june of last year 1044 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:40,239 with the inclusion of the temporary enclosures which we brought about i want 1045 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:44,560 to say october november of 2020 for the winter months so really 1046 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:47,520 the context of the feasibility study was just to give context of why we're going 1047 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:51,440 this late but it is an extension of the resolution 1048 01:13:49,679 --> 01:13:56,320 that would allow outdoor dining in private parking areas where special land 1049 01:13:53,600 --> 01:14:01,360 use approval has not been granted yet in municipal parking areas 1050 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:05,840 in on the residential side streets where um and it's the four of them are listed 1051 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:08,640 in um in the ordinance but it's uh south griffith north 1052 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:13,440 sorry apologize north robin at 12 mile north 1053 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:18,400 phillips at 12 mile south griffith at 12 mile south thomas at 12 mile and 1054 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:21,520 eastworthia at coolidge now we put these in the resolution after careful 1055 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:25,199 consideration with uh with the city manager as well as with the former dda 1056 01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:28,480 director and those were the areas that we thought might be 1057 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:34,239 more utilized because there's a congregation of either restaurants or a 1058 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:38,719 large swath of retail businesses that could use it for their outdoor sales or 1059 01:14:36,239 --> 01:14:43,280 service areas so it wasn't just intended for this one this one location 1060 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:46,480 however this one location is the only one that has been utilized we haven't 1061 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:49,199 received any any real interest from from any of the other 1062 01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:52,640 ones now if someone were interested and wanted to 1063 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:55,600 pursue that by all means we're more than happy to look at this or if there's 1064 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:59,440 another intersection that that might work we can talk about that as well 1065 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:03,440 there has been some interest at eastworthia coolidge but it just never 1066 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:08,480 kind of came to fruition so the the resolution before you is just 1067 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:11,040 that extension to allow that which has been happening for the past year to 1068 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:15,520 continue and like i said we we put the 1069 01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:19,440 as we've gone along we've put an end date on them um sometimes it was for six 1070 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:23,600 months sometimes it was for three months this one is the longest one only in the 1071 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:27,199 sense that um hopefully by the end of 2022 1072 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:31,360 most of or all restrictions will be over and done with and we'll be into a 1073 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:34,480 new phase but also to really look at this space 1074 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:38,400 and and see if that's something that we would want to do east cool or the 1075 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:42,560 coolidge space griffith but the resolution before you is just to 1076 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:47,280 extend that which is already in place right we are not voting on 1077 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:50,880 potentially griffith permanently closing that is not what we are talking about 1078 01:15:48,719 --> 01:15:53,920 today we are we do want to study which is what director schlutel mentioned give 1079 01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:59,600 us some time to actually study if that would make sense as a public plaza 1080 01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:03,120 but this is not a vote on up or down on griffith that is not what we're trying 1081 01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:05,679 to accomplish today we're trying to we're discussing 1082 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:10,320 potentially using those restrictions that director mentioned that apply to 1083 01:16:08,159 --> 01:16:14,000 various places in the community a number of different businesses are taking 1084 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:17,600 advantage of some of the uh relaxed 1085 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:21,360 guidelines right now where normally a special land use would have been 1086 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:25,199 the typical process to try to make it easier for folks to continue operating 1087 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:30,320 especially not knowing when this covet is going to 1088 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:33,440 allow us to to resume eating inside comfortably in 1089 01:16:31,679 --> 01:16:36,560 close quarters with some other folks that is the primary concern i did not 1090 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:40,960 want this to get into a specifically griffith conversation 1091 01:16:38,719 --> 01:16:44,719 although i also am not stifling anybody's comments or 1092 01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:48,560 communication because i think it is important especially as we do talk about 1093 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:51,280 this in the future and what is a public plaza there what does that public plaza 1094 01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:54,960 look like how would folks have access to it i 1095 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,440 guess i kind of in speaking with the city manager earlier we kind of envision 1096 01:16:56,719 --> 01:16:59,920 it maybe something similar to what we have 1097 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:03,840 for park right now if somebody wants to run out of park for something they can 1098 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:09,280 sign up we have a you know sign up at some point and there are probably some 1099 01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:13,040 fees associated with renting and for a small time period that space but it 1100 01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:15,920 would also just be open city space so if somebody does grab some food somewhere 1101 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:19,679 and wants to go and eat they could certainly do that 1102 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:26,800 at any time but again that's a further down the road kind of conversation 1103 01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:29,520 that fair clear ish maybe council i'm going to open it up to us 1104 01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:33,040 because i know there are a lot of questions as well that we have 1105 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:37,440 and i want to give everybody the opportunity to 1106 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:41,280 discuss those right now council member price 1107 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:45,360 yes director chaluto i wanted to thank you and your team for all the 1108 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:49,920 information around this proposed extension 1109 01:17:47,679 --> 01:17:52,960 i wanted you to speak too if you could a little bit about the 1110 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:57,280 survey that you put out to area residents and how they felt like they've 1111 01:17:55,679 --> 01:18:01,280 been impacted by this 1112 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:04,960 closure so far yes that's a great question thank you so 1113 01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:08,800 um let me go back in time just a little bit 1114 01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:12,960 so when we were going to do the first the first closure and the first 1115 01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:17,199 temporary relaxation of our ordinances for 1116 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:21,760 outdoor dining we did put out one survey and it was for those business property 1117 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:26,000 owners that were on griffith one block south of that intersection so it just 1118 01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:30,480 went down to beverly and then east and west of griffith so it was a very small 1119 01:18:28,719 --> 01:18:34,159 survey pool now overwhelming people liked it blah blah 1120 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:37,520 this time given that we are looking at the possible well first of 1121 01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:41,199 all i wanted to ask how things have been impacting them in the past year 1122 01:18:39,679 --> 01:18:44,719 would they like this to continue would they like it to be a public plaza we 1123 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:49,600 opened it a little bit more broadly and so that area went out much broader so we 1124 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:52,320 went one block north of of 12 mile 1125 01:18:52,719 --> 01:19:00,239 two blocks south of no i'm sorry two blocks north of 12 mile two blocks south 1126 01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:05,920 of of 12 mile and then gardner to robina so we had a much much larger swath of of 1127 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:11,440 residents who who could participate mailed it out to 448 business owners 1128 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:16,400 property owners residents occupants etc and we received 365 responses in that 1129 01:19:14,239 --> 01:19:20,560 survey so overwhelmingly we had people say that 1130 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:27,920 they've reacted felt very positively about the closure over the past year 1131 01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:32,320 49.86 percent 182 responses felt that the the griffith closure has impacted 1132 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:35,199 them very positively there were about 10 questions here we 1133 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:40,239 were trying to keep it as broad as possible again this was just the first 1134 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:43,040 of many community engagement efforts and if this had skewed wildly the other way 1135 01:19:42,159 --> 01:19:47,920 we would be having a different conversation right now but 1136 01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:53,600 we had a lot of people say that they would be interested in um discussing how 1137 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:57,520 this could be extended either seasonally or permanently um most people that 1138 01:19:56,080 --> 01:20:00,960 responded did not want to see it returned to the former configuration of 1139 01:19:59,440 --> 01:20:06,800 the two-way stop uh immediately they the numbers 1140 01:20:04,719 --> 01:20:12,159 kind of speak from sorry yes oh i just could you clarify you said um 1141 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:17,600 49 said it impacted them very positively what were the other options like 1142 01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:21,440 very negatively negatively neutral hadn't really noticed positively or very 1143 01:20:19,679 --> 01:20:25,120 positively okay so it was on a scale of one yeah okay so it wasn't just very 1144 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:29,120 positively or negatively just right we tried we tried to yeah try to give them 1145 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:34,760 a little bit more and then you said 49 very positively and then how many about 1146 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:43,600 positively neutral yeah positively was 11.51 percent so about 42 people neutral 1147 01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:48,320 uh 25.48 93 people negatively 4.93 18 persons 1148 01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:51,679 very negatively 8.22 which is about 30 persons thank you so much for clarifying 1149 01:20:50,239 --> 01:20:54,560 that okay um 1150 01:20:52,639 --> 01:21:00,000 so in addition to some of these questions of you know would you like to 1151 01:20:56,480 --> 01:21:03,120 see it as a temporary seasonal um and or permanent 1152 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:05,840 like i said things were very positive we even 1153 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:09,760 included a question of how many times you visited berkeley common in the last 1154 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:14,239 year just to kind of get a gauges of the people who did respond were they 1155 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:17,679 frequent visitors here or not just to give a little bit more context and then 1156 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:23,280 we did open it up for any additional thoughts comments concerns questions or 1157 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:28,480 anything and the number of responses we've received was 1158 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:33,679 well over 240 not to mention we also noted that if you wanted to include your 1159 01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:36,960 email address on this to receive updates excuse me please do so and we'll make 1160 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:40,080 sure to keep you updated on how things progress in the future and this will be 1161 01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:43,840 a really good email blast list for when we start doing 1162 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:48,800 the community engagement uh component of this if if we continue moving forward so 1163 01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:51,840 um this has been a really good gauge as to how people have been feeling over the 1164 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,960 past year and also where they want to go in the future 1165 01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:59,040 that's fantastic thank you for being proactive with communicating with the 1166 01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:03,120 residents um before we have to make this decision 1167 01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:06,080 additional comments still looking this way so i'll stay over 1168 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:11,040 here in case there's already if not i'll turn the other way okay all right i 1169 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:13,679 guess i'll come over to this side councilmember henning 1170 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:17,120 yeah and just to 1171 01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:22,159 do some summation there that was 86 percent of people thought were neutral 1172 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:24,400 or some form of positive with the change with a 1173 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:30,239 pretty large sample size so i mean 1174 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:34,480 that number speaks a lot to me so 1175 01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:39,679 so i do support the extension i have two modifications that i want to see um 1176 01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:45,840 and the first is i do think we need to be charging rent at this point this is 1177 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:51,360 any place that we have um not just griffith any place we have 1178 01:22:48,639 --> 01:22:57,679 uh private use of public property uh we're past the acute phase of covid um 1179 01:22:54,480 --> 01:23:02,400 and there's uh but there are still issues and so i do think um 1180 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:07,520 that it does let's say even the playing field uh if 1181 01:23:04,639 --> 01:23:14,000 we start to charge rent and the second place second item is 1182 01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:18,560 where we do close publicly close close public roads i do think we should carve 1183 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:24,880 out a part that is clearly public access that 1184 01:23:22,159 --> 01:23:28,320 anyone can use it's it's clearly marked as such uh so we can start to see 1185 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:34,320 um the public plaza aspect of it so we're 1186 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:38,080 we're experimenting you know we're getting data on the 1187 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:42,159 experimentation on that part as well you know while we have these other things 1188 01:23:40,239 --> 01:23:46,840 so those are the two things that i'd like to see 1189 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,840 added to this 1190 01:23:51,679 --> 01:23:53,920 okay 1191 01:23:54,080 --> 01:24:01,040 anything we're here no okay any other comments or as we make our way back here 1192 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:05,280 mr m may i address the second point um so yeah the part of 1193 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:08,880 the community engagement strategy and the reason for this extension is to 1194 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:14,719 really look at the programming of that space so if we were to to look at that 1195 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:18,159 area as a public plaza how can we ensure that this is done 1196 01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:22,159 correctly that brings everybody here that they they now know that this has 1197 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:25,840 transitioned from that which it was to what it will be in the future and making 1198 01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:30,159 sure that that is done where there's not any any ambiguity in 1199 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:34,320 it whatsoever so while it'd still be a place where people could you know go get 1200 01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:38,320 a sandwich and come over here making sure that they understand that there's a 1201 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:42,239 clear demarcation from from a private use to a public use and 1202 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:47,040 that'll all be part of the the feasibility study the design of it the 1203 01:24:44,159 --> 01:24:49,920 programming of it these were things that we noted that weren't done at the robina 1204 01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:53,440 plaza and that's why maybe reasons why it 1205 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:58,800 didn't didn't flourish is we want to make sure that we we correct those 1206 01:24:55,040 --> 01:25:01,040 mistakes if we do this going forward okay 1207 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,639 councilman baker oh thank your honor thank you 1208 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,600 for this information for bringing this back 1209 01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:10,400 to us and i want to thank everybody for their comments and thoughts uh tonight i 1210 01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:15,440 know this specifically for before us now is just 1211 01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:18,639 the extension but it's it's easy to get into the dialogue about the broader what 1212 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,440 ifs and could be especially into your point about the 1213 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:24,480 robina issue some of the comments we've received here 1214 01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:28,800 in the short term looking at the barricades and everything it feels like 1215 01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:32,960 a disaster zone if you're going by there and there's all sorts of great safety 1216 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:37,120 reasons why we have those barriers and all the kind of protective things 1217 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:41,440 because folks you know if they haven't been in town in a while they might just 1218 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:46,000 hit turn signal and try to pop in there so not to not to get into the the 1219 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:49,600 closure conversation but just to help paint the picture 1220 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:54,560 if if any of these properties or other spots were 1221 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:57,840 eventually deemed to be to be closed it would actually be 1222 01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:01,440 closed at the street you'd have like on street parking so it would just be an 1223 01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:03,920 extension of whether it's coolage or 12 mile 1224 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:07,199 and it would be there would be no way to turn in 1225 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:10,080 because it would actually be sealed off and it would actually just continue the 1226 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:13,360 street there'd be additional parking we'd gain parking in those kind of 1227 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:16,480 scenarios and and then to your point there'd be 1228 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:20,560 proper signage we'd we'd amend the wayfinding that's been put in place uh 1229 01:26:18,719 --> 01:26:24,320 to indicate that this is a public facility and then to the comment that 1230 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:27,840 was made earlier it would just be rented out as needed for specific events just 1231 01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:31,840 like you could rent out jc park or anything like that now 1232 01:26:29,440 --> 01:26:34,960 now back to the the the temporary extension 1233 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:38,239 a lot of it does hinge first on the the kovid right 1234 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:42,239 because cove is right in the middle of this 1235 01:26:39,679 --> 01:26:46,480 title even of of what we're doing here so certainly since the delta thing is 1236 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:50,480 going crazy right now uh i think we need to to keep that bigger picture in mind 1237 01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:55,120 and i'm glad that we were reminded again that this is more than just one 1238 01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:58,159 one intersection uh and secondly um the notion of so i'm going to come back to 1239 01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:03,440 you with the timing question again uh when do we imagine um there's additional 1240 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:08,239 conversations and studies continuing and i uh like my colleague i applaud the 1241 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:12,239 proactive work that's already been done with the with the studies that have been 1242 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:15,760 put in place can you describe not even to pin you down to specific 1243 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:18,960 dates or anything but the general sequence or the kinds of conversations 1244 01:27:17,679 --> 01:27:22,560 that we'll have to get a better feel for how this space 1245 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:26,320 could be used to benefit the entire community 1246 01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:29,920 yeah so i've i've started unofficially putting out some feelers with a couple 1247 01:27:27,679 --> 01:27:32,560 planning firms that that i know just to get an idea of what a 1248 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:37,199 feasibility study would cost for for those two spaces that i mentioned um 1249 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:42,639 have started to brainstorm a little bit with our communications uh guru mr 1250 01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:46,400 mathis on ways that we can bring people together and talk about it 1251 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:49,920 as you know we had a really robust community engagement strategy planned 1252 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:53,040 for our master plan which didn't come to fruition so now maybe we can use some of 1253 01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:57,120 those ideas to do this but it would involve 1254 01:27:55,679 --> 01:28:00,239 meetings with the residents it would involve meetings with the business 1255 01:27:58,239 --> 01:28:03,360 owners because there concerns and their viewpoints are very very different so we 1256 01:28:02,159 --> 01:28:07,360 need to make sure that we've we've looked at everything 1257 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:11,280 secularly but then you know comprehensively together 1258 01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:15,679 so those are the kinds of things we want to do the survey was a good a good start 1259 01:28:13,679 --> 01:28:19,040 and i imagine we'll probably do another one of those because it gives people the 1260 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:22,080 opportunity to do it from the comfort of their own home they don't have to leave 1261 01:28:20,719 --> 01:28:25,600 they don't have to go out and they can also maybe be a little more honest about 1262 01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:29,679 what they're feeling rather than a face-to-face conversation but certainly 1263 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:32,000 this is not the only like i said it's not the only way we're going to be doing 1264 01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:35,520 this there's going to be a lot more face-to-face conversations 1265 01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:38,080 once we get into a little bit more of the 1266 01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:41,600 what would you like to see component design component and if we have a 1267 01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:45,280 conceptual then and i'm just brainstorming here but um you know then 1268 01:28:43,679 --> 01:28:48,080 there's opportunities for bringing people into that space and showing them 1269 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:51,920 renderings and say which one do you like better do you like this better what 1270 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:56,080 about this um and really making it so that the community is is more or less 1271 01:28:54,159 --> 01:29:00,719 designing this they're helping us design and telling us what they want to see so 1272 01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:04,239 that's that's really kind of where i my thought process is coming from 1273 01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:07,920 great thank you that makes a lot of sense and uh and i'll just wrap up my 1274 01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:12,239 bit here again to kind of reinforce some of the comments that we heard from folks 1275 01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:15,440 uh to ensure that the here and now is is safe certainly we don't want to you know 1276 01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:19,440 trip hazards uh and i too you guys know i'm a big fan 1277 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:23,520 of speed limits right there's a reason we have those things and they are 1278 01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:27,440 important and stop signs even more so uh so whatever um so this is my request 1279 01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:31,199 whatever we can do to ask our friends across the street uh to help keep an eye 1280 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:35,520 on that and find some ways to instrument that just to um to let folks know that 1281 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:38,639 it's not a thoroughfare right it's meant to stop signs of there for all the right 1282 01:29:37,199 --> 01:29:43,120 reasons and we want to make sure people stay safe and and obey those so 1283 01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:45,600 so thanks again for folks for bringing those up to our attention so we can 1284 01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:48,880 address those councilmember blanchard thank you your 1285 01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:52,480 honor i'd just like to say that i think that what berkeley commons has done it's 1286 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:56,639 been very good for the city brought us a lot of business both to the restaurant 1287 01:29:54,560 --> 01:30:00,320 and for the retail i think it's a good thing i think we need to need to move 1288 01:29:58,719 --> 01:30:05,040 forward i think our feasibility study would be a good thing there is one other 1289 01:30:02,639 --> 01:30:08,560 thing that we have thrown out feelers about but not had any response and that 1290 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:11,760 are social districts uh royal oak is institute social 1291 01:30:10,159 --> 01:30:15,360 districts and that's something that we could think about but 1292 01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:19,760 we need businesses to come to us with some ideas to help out so if some of the 1293 01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:22,480 businesses think that they have a good case or a good 1294 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:25,920 idea on what we could do to implement a 1295 01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:30,639 social district in addition to what we're doing now 1296 01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:34,800 that could be an improvement so i think the feasibility study is good we 1297 01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:38,000 need to get more public access space but 1298 01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:40,880 what berkeley commons is doing right now i think is helping us out a lot and 1299 01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,920 getting people into the city and getting them 1300 01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:46,719 through there safely so thank you for what you've done and let's think about 1301 01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:50,880 the other part of it as a social district maybe later on if we can find a 1302 01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:54,560 way to do that successfully in our city thank you 1303 01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:58,719 thank you um aaron i could read this or you can read it either way i just again 1304 01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:02,320 try to keep this on the the resolution that we're talking 1305 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:05,360 about i know there's there's a larger thing that continues to come up uh 1306 01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:10,159 potentially for the future in our community but again there are one two 1307 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:13,120 three four five six seven eight nine plus the five that you mentioned there 1308 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:16,639 are a number of different things that this 1309 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:21,440 resolution continues to provide um you know if allowing the use of 1310 01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:24,320 private parking spaces you know up to fifty percent of their current lawful 1311 01:31:22,719 --> 01:31:28,159 usable space or by thirty percent of the existing parking area temporarily adding 1312 01:31:26,719 --> 01:31:31,679 or expanding outdoor dining or seating sales and service areas not encroaching 1313 01:31:30,159 --> 01:31:35,840 or obstructing fire lanes you know obviously being respectful of the noise 1314 01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:39,600 and then if there's a municipal lot you know up to 25 percent of the municipal 1315 01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:42,400 parking area may be used available there are a number of other businesses that 1316 01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:46,480 are taking advantage of these things and have been taking advantage of them 1317 01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:50,880 the conversation today has seemed to center around just one particular 1318 01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:55,280 instance but there are far more that we are talking about 1319 01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:58,800 and in speaking with colleagues in other communities especially after the past 1320 01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:04,960 year outdoor dining outdoor dining access 1321 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:08,320 i don't see that going away even if 1322 01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:13,600 hopefully soon covet is something that is behind us i don't see a need or a 1323 01:32:10,719 --> 01:32:16,880 desire for outdoor dining to just vanish that's not happening actually we're 1324 01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:19,840 seeing a number of communities close to us going 1325 01:32:18,719 --> 01:32:23,360 in the opposite direction which is something that i think we need to 1326 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:26,320 certainly be available and open to as well 1327 01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:28,880 because that's what people want and that's what businesses are going to need 1328 01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:32,480 to be able to offer to continue to be competitive is to have some of those 1329 01:32:30,239 --> 01:32:35,679 spaces to me that is the most important part of 1330 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:40,239 continuing the temporary ease of these restrictions 1331 01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:43,040 today that is what is most important for me 1332 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:46,480 the griffith opportunity 1333 01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:49,679 i think as a public space in a public plaza and maybe its own little social 1334 01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:53,440 district where you know anybody who's out and about can 1335 01:32:51,440 --> 01:32:57,120 enjoy that spot certainly private businesses can also enjoy that 1336 01:32:55,360 --> 01:33:00,480 spot or rent it out by perming or however we're going to figure that out 1337 01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,880 if we decide to go that way in the future permanently 1338 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:07,600 those are going to be ongoing conversations 1339 01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:11,120 but under this that intersection is one of the five 1340 01:33:09,679 --> 01:33:15,280 where anybody else again could have applied and hadn't yet to utilize one of 1341 01:33:13,199 --> 01:33:19,280 those spaces that would be able to continue now my question for you miss 1342 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:24,800 luto is if we do approve this and it's continued up through december of 2022 1343 01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:30,719 when does it become our public plaza for us to program and 1344 01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:36,719 try out and really study and feasibility and all of those things versus where 1345 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:40,960 it's kind of seen right now as it's only for one particular space 1346 01:33:39,199 --> 01:33:45,199 well a lot of that comes down to the once the feasibility study is done and 1347 01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:48,719 we've engaged the public and and if there's buy-in we'll bring those results 1348 01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:53,440 and we'll bring all that feedback back to you and how we want to do this 1349 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:57,360 it wouldn't be a start and stop on a saturday and then this is now a public 1350 01:33:54,960 --> 01:34:00,400 plaza there would be a transitional component 1351 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:03,520 i'm assuming i haven't quite gotten that far as to how to roll that out but there 1352 01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:07,760 would be a point of the use can continue as a private 1353 01:34:05,679 --> 01:34:11,760 outdoor dining space until this day and then the programming in the plaza would 1354 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:16,400 be ready to go um you know shortly thereafter 1355 01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:21,280 but leading them up so that way the the business can 1356 01:34:18,639 --> 01:34:26,880 acclimate can get their their last um the last hurrah i guess you want to 1357 01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:30,080 call it um so that way they can um make their arrangements on all of the 1358 01:34:28,639 --> 01:34:33,280 the investments they've done on their on their side all right so then i have a 1359 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:38,159 legal question for the attorney if that is the case 1360 01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:42,000 and the resolution as written i mean it just says you can apply at 1361 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:46,639 this space and now it basically says this through december of 2022 do we have 1362 01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:49,520 to add any language 1363 01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:52,080 in here to 1364 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:55,199 you know be again as transparent as possible with everybody involved and not 1365 01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:58,840 to just call one day and say hey you were on let's use somebody else you were 1366 01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:04,080 at east north ian coolidge well guess what we're taking this over now and they 1367 01:35:02,159 --> 01:35:09,199 say no you approve this to december of 2022 you don't have any access to it 1368 01:35:07,119 --> 01:35:12,560 would we have to change the language or put anything in here to give us that 1369 01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:17,920 ability other than we take the resolution out i think you already have 1370 01:35:14,719 --> 01:35:22,320 i mean they're right right uh uh further down in that resolution it says 1371 01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:27,040 it is further resolved that the city council 1372 01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:32,080 reserves the authority to modify shorten or lengthen the duration terms and 1373 01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:37,040 conditions of this resolution as the council deems reasonable and 1374 01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:39,840 appropriate under the circumstances that is something we've carried over from the 1375 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:46,480 prior resolutions recognizing that 1376 01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:51,600 facts and circumstances do change and the council is making this as a 1377 01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:56,960 temporary accommodation but as we become 1378 01:35:54,719 --> 01:36:00,400 more informed as i said circumstances change 1379 01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:03,280 council wants that to have that ability to either 1380 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:06,320 backtrack or move in a different direction so 1381 01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:09,520 um it's a long answer to your simple 1382 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:13,920 question i i i just feel like we seem to have found 1383 01:36:11,440 --> 01:36:17,440 ourselves in a lot of uh a lot of places where there's some gray area let's see 1384 01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:20,159 and we end up having people in robes having to tell us i can't say that 1385 01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:24,560 people i can't say people won't either applaud 1386 01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:28,400 or or complain if council goes in a different direction 1387 01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:31,119 but you are reserving the authority to do that and that is a very general 1388 01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:34,560 question it's certainly not it was it was directed at the people at east or 1389 01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:37,199 thea and coolidge first of all uh just to make sure that if something changed 1390 01:36:36,159 --> 01:36:41,840 because my goal is to make that a public plaza 1391 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:46,639 yes as soon as expediently as soon as possible and feasibly possible given 1392 01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:51,119 what we want to have um just because i think it would be such 1393 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:55,360 a good benefit for the entire community and then look at potential other places 1394 01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:59,760 back to dorothea again that's my goal yes i am in favor of 1395 01:36:57,440 --> 01:37:02,400 expending these restrictions or easing of these restrictions right now for 1396 01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:07,280 everybody else especially with what's going on and delta coming back and 1397 01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:11,119 hitting more waves but also keeping our eye on what the future could look like 1398 01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:15,600 and at least having a timeline i'm not big on 1399 01:37:12,639 --> 01:37:15,600 approving things 1400 01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:20,880 there with a lot of ambiguity because 1401 01:37:19,199 --> 01:37:23,600 if i if we don't know when the next steps are happening i feel like that's 1402 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:27,760 what can create a lot of consternation and 1403 01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:31,199 anger and questions in our community and i don't want that to happen here what's 1404 01:37:29,679 --> 01:37:34,719 that make sense councilman baker oh thank you honor just to kind of build on 1405 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:38,239 that and kind of get right back to just kind of the the obvious point that i 1406 01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:41,840 think we drive by often and you've pointed out here uh if someone at one of 1407 01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:46,719 these other locations or somewhere else in the city was interested in 1408 01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:50,560 uh taking advantage of of this and leveraging it to to 1409 01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:54,239 bolster their business especially as we get into this thing 1410 01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:57,760 at risk of just being completely obvious about it what would how would they go 1411 01:37:55,440 --> 01:38:02,400 about contacting you uh and what would you um ask of them to bring 1412 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:06,080 in terms of uh like if they did want to do the you know something on coolidge or 1413 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:09,360 something like that how would they get a hold of you and and 1414 01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:12,239 what kind of materials might you suggest that they bring again just to kind of 1415 01:38:11,119 --> 01:38:15,600 ensure that we're broadening the conversation here tonight 1416 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:22,159 yeah certainly so uh you can call me here at city hall 248 658 3329 um you 1417 01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:26,800 can email me but we have an application a permit application available online 1418 01:38:24,719 --> 01:38:31,040 it's for the temporary outdoor dining closures and it very specifically says 1419 01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:34,480 where you're looking to do your outdoor dining sales service areas whether it's 1420 01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:37,920 on a sidewalk cafe whether it's in a municipal private lot or if it's on one 1421 01:38:36,159 --> 01:38:40,880 of those intersections you know we haven't had any one except 1422 01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:43,520 for this one here but 1423 01:38:42,159 --> 01:38:46,239 you know we would need a site plan showing exactly where everything is 1424 01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:50,080 going to be what type of barricades you're going to do we have to work with 1425 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:53,119 uh the road commission of oakland county if it's on 12 mile because that's a 1426 01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:57,040 county road work with them and get a traffic control 1427 01:38:55,199 --> 01:39:00,239 order from the department of public safety so there are a number of things 1428 01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:04,159 that need to go into it but if certainly if anyone is interested take a look at 1429 01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:07,600 our our website for the application and feel free to reach out to me 1430 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:10,960 at city hall and my email address and we can walk through all the steps 1431 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:13,840 thank you and just to kind of put folks minds at ease when you you mentioned a 1432 01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:17,280 lot of very important requirements there that are all um completely valid and 1433 01:39:15,440 --> 01:39:20,719 understandable uh it almost sounds arduous is it actually as daunting as it 1434 01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:23,199 sounds or like when you say site plan could they just come in with like a 1435 01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:26,320 sketch and a kind of a thing or does it have to be an official 1436 01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:29,520 no it doesn't have to be signed and sealed by an architect or anything but 1437 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:34,960 just showing where the building is where the spaces are what type of um uh 1438 01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:38,719 barricades you're planning on using to separate especially if it's on the 1439 01:39:37,199 --> 01:39:42,880 one of these residential streets we want to make sure that there is a clear 1440 01:39:41,199 --> 01:39:48,080 and very identifiable blockade from from the 1441 01:39:46,480 --> 01:39:51,280 traffic area to to the pedestrian area and where the 1442 01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:54,719 patrons will be sitting so we want to make sure that that is very very clear 1443 01:39:52,639 --> 01:39:57,679 for everybody so making sure that that is um 1444 01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:00,719 is understood and there last year there were a couple of people who submitted 1445 01:39:59,119 --> 01:40:04,800 this and was like no that that's that that doesn't quite work that's not safe 1446 01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:07,440 enough we you know try doing this over here oh yeah sure we'll we'll do that 1447 01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:11,040 we'll use those materials cool no problem but just making sure that 1448 01:40:09,119 --> 01:40:14,639 something is safe and not just having a velvet rope um across it wasn't you know 1449 01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,440 didn't wasn't enough so we want to make sure 1450 01:40:16,159 --> 01:40:20,560 that there is something that that is very clear and and 1451 01:40:19,199 --> 01:40:24,320 not permanent but a little bit more permanent than a velvet rope right so 1452 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:27,679 yeah any of those questions can be directed to me and we can walk through 1453 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:31,280 all of those steps together certainly if it's a a private parking area or 1454 01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:34,800 municipal parking area or sidewalk those are a little bit easier to to do 1455 01:40:33,440 --> 01:40:38,719 when you get into the side streets with the traffic control orders and rcoc and 1456 01:40:37,199 --> 01:40:41,920 all the signage that needs to be done there's a lot more to it 1457 01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:45,440 so i would encourage anyone who's interested to contact me and we can walk 1458 01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:47,520 through all those steps together thank you 1459 01:40:47,679 --> 01:40:54,800 thank you erin you mentioned the programming component 1460 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:57,440 do you envision that happening during that 1461 01:40:56,159 --> 01:41:01,600 feasibility study period if we approve this 1462 01:40:59,679 --> 01:41:07,440 extending the closure do you envision that programming being part of that 1463 01:41:05,119 --> 01:41:10,719 time frame yes i do okay you know we would be working with parks and rec we'd 1464 01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:13,760 be working with um the dda we'd be working with the school 1465 01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:17,679 district we'd be working with any other local organizations to make sure that 1466 01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:20,719 really this is program within within an inch of its life to make sure that we 1467 01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:25,760 have a lot of engaging activities and things 1468 01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:30,960 to bring the public to this space um so that way they they do know that it is a 1469 01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:34,400 public a public area that that's a big component to make sure 1470 01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:37,360 it's done and and the maintenance and and the the routine cleaning and all 1471 01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:43,119 that stuff that that goes in hand in hand with all of this perfect um because 1472 01:41:39,679 --> 01:41:43,119 that really was i think a 1473 01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:51,440 a a ball drop if you will on robina i think that to your point earlier that um 1474 01:41:48,719 --> 01:41:55,280 those things weren't as robust as they as they could have 1475 01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:58,560 been so i'm glad to hear that that's the thinking now so thank you 1476 01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:03,840 councilmember hammond um 1477 01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:07,760 before we approve tonight i would just like to get the pulse of the rest of 1478 01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:12,239 council if you know if we approve tonight 1479 01:42:09,679 --> 01:42:16,560 is there interest at the next meeting considering 1480 01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:20,639 modifications that require rent and considering some clearly identifiable 1481 01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:25,840 public space where we have these closures 1482 01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:29,199 i think first i want to ask director saluto 1483 01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:34,400 how long would it take for us to i mean i i assume on the rent or fee structure 1484 01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:37,920 we probably would default to what we are using maybe in some other places in the 1485 01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:41,600 city but in terms of the the additional steps 1486 01:42:40,239 --> 01:42:46,159 granted we don't have another meeting for a little while is that enough time 1487 01:42:44,480 --> 01:42:49,199 to come back and talk a little bit more about what 1488 01:42:47,440 --> 01:42:53,040 this next step with what the next phases are going to look like in terms of the 1489 01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:57,679 timeline of the overall yes yes yes 1490 01:42:55,679 --> 01:43:02,239 uh i mean is that okay with council to come back and want to take a quick yes 1491 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:05,360 if we do that i apologize but you're still looking to approve this 1492 01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:09,199 extension this evening and then just okay just wanted some clarification on 1493 01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:12,560 my nts yes we're looking to make sure that we have um some next steps and we 1494 01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:15,920 know what those next steps are potentially going to look like so that 1495 01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:19,920 we can continue these conversations as it relates to the other item 1496 01:43:18,159 --> 01:43:22,400 that is not that's a part of what we're talking about right now yes and that's 1497 01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:25,199 the sole point of what we're talking about right now you will be you'll be 1498 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:30,239 annoyed by how many emails you're going to get from me on timelines and and 1499 01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:33,600 materials and things to go over any other comments from council 1500 01:43:34,480 --> 01:43:39,520 final thoughts from folks that are with us 1501 01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:41,840 today before we vote 1502 01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:49,320 okay it is a gray area 1503 01:43:52,719 --> 01:43:58,719 the master plan states robina would it be 1504 01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:05,520 more feasible and just a suggestion i don't know 1505 01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:05,520 just me sitting here thinking um 1506 01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:14,159 the closure is already to september 30th correct 1507 01:44:11,679 --> 01:44:18,159 for berkeley commons well it's under the under the resolution for 1508 01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:20,960 everything yes okay would it be 1509 01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:25,679 clearer to 1510 01:44:22,719 --> 01:44:25,679 open that back up 1511 01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:33,280 take this feasibility study take it and do this study in the survey 1512 01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:36,000 and everything else on robino 1513 01:44:37,679 --> 01:44:45,040 start with that makes it a public area 1514 01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:49,280 you're not affecting tenants in the upstairs 1515 01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:53,440 that april owns okay you're not a fa because there's no 1516 01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:57,840 tenants there i know that i it's 1517 01:44:55,199 --> 01:45:01,760 just a thought so either way 1518 01:44:59,199 --> 01:45:05,440 if this gets approved that is a part of it obviously 1519 01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:08,480 because that's one of the areas that was identified in one of the places where 1520 01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:12,880 somebody applied and used and we have north rubin at 12 1521 01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:16,639 mile which had not been it was one of the areas that was 1522 01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:20,719 targeted as is a good potential for this nobody took advantage of that yet so 1523 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:23,920 for us to either way if this gets approved that is allowed to continue 1524 01:45:22,719 --> 01:45:28,400 regardless while we're studying the feasibility so we wouldn't be closing 1525 01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:33,040 one down to move one either because that's already an area that they could 1526 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:37,679 be in permitted by this so which you're talking about then 1527 01:45:34,480 --> 01:45:40,480 shifting what we have in here i'm personally 1528 01:45:39,679 --> 01:45:43,840 not going to recommend that we shift it now 1529 01:45:42,159 --> 01:45:48,239 just because this is how it's been and they've used it at this point 1530 01:45:46,239 --> 01:45:51,280 had it not been one of the initial places i think that's 1531 01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:54,560 a different conversation maybe we would have had that before 1532 01:45:52,639 --> 01:46:00,080 but i think we're kind of here now i'm personally loved to change that 1533 01:45:57,119 --> 01:46:03,840 um any other comments i would just like to follow up i mean 1534 01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:06,800 it's just the only reason why grip this is not considered to be a public space 1535 01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:10,080 is because berkeley common is only one that you 1536 01:46:08,239 --> 01:46:12,560 know one of the main restaurants that chose to take advantage of that which i 1537 01:46:11,440 --> 01:46:16,000 think is great i think they did a great job i mean i don't know if a public 1538 01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:18,960 space is awesome for them either because you're 1539 01:46:17,119 --> 01:46:22,239 going to lose your dining i mean part of the i mean i will say privatized you 1540 01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:26,480 know you know gusto goes a long way and they 1541 01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:30,560 are clear you know they're clearly showing that because they do they have a 1542 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:35,440 dynamic situation i almost rather personally i would rather have them have 1543 01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:38,719 a robust awesome restaurant open for lunch 1544 01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:43,119 you know you know lunches saturdays and sundays as opposed to public space 1545 01:46:40,239 --> 01:46:46,400 personally i mean it's a fellow business oh no no no i'm saying like long term it 1546 01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:49,840 could set up instead of a public space that's used periodically here and there 1547 01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:53,119 the loitering and i mean i know i don't want to be negative but i'm just like 1548 01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:57,360 i'm looking through my eyes my manager and i can hear it already as i say that 1549 01:46:55,280 --> 01:47:01,679 i would rather have a robust you know restaurant that's open you know 1550 01:46:59,920 --> 01:47:05,280 six days a week for lunches i mean personally i'm just saying i believe 1551 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:09,199 or not is because of the dynamics correct well right oh yeah i know saying 1552 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:12,159 long term i guess i would rather have i mean well the reality is 1553 01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:15,119 i mean if you guys could close it regardless i would rather have these 1554 01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:18,480 guys buy it and do what they do because they do a great job i mean if it's going 1555 01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:22,000 to be close that's just my opinion okay it is a public road we i mean that's the 1556 01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:25,280 issue you guys can sell stuff i don't know you guys make things happen right i 1557 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:28,480 don't know rent things okay i'm just saying preferably if it's going to be 1558 01:47:26,480 --> 01:47:31,920 closed regardless i have i would rather have these guys to do what they're doing 1559 01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:35,040 because i i would like it for that more so than just a in a public space but 1560 01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:39,199 that's my two cents all right so thank you april appreciate that 1561 01:47:37,119 --> 01:47:42,320 any final comments before i call for the vote 1562 01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:45,360 mike and then ms mathis i'm going to be 1563 01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:49,199 coming to you so if anybody is in the queue please we'll get them ready i just 1564 01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:53,600 want to say thank you to the berkeley residents who have been so resoundingly 1565 01:47:51,119 --> 01:47:57,520 supportive of the the small businesses in our downtown footprint i know that's 1566 01:47:55,520 --> 01:48:00,159 true beyond just the downtown borders but 1567 01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:04,560 centering that in this conversation as this is a temporary measure that will be 1568 01:48:02,239 --> 01:48:08,639 temporarily extended a little bit longer i want to thank the residents because 1569 01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:12,000 we're going to need you even more so to continue 1570 01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:15,280 that local support i think that's distinctly true for berkeley even more 1571 01:48:13,679 --> 01:48:18,320 than other communities that's already been helpful and just 1572 01:48:16,639 --> 01:48:22,800 want to celebrate that and thank the community's leaders because our downtown 1573 01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:27,280 businesses and the entire communities small businesses really need that 1574 01:48:24,719 --> 01:48:31,280 continued rallying as we meander and navigate all the obstacles that continue 1575 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:36,560 to rise for our small enterprises thank you 1576 01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,560 miss mathis 1577 01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:43,600 okay there is no one in the queue at this time 1578 01:48:42,239 --> 01:48:48,239 okay any last minute comments from council 1579 01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:51,679 members or clarifications or questions seeing none 1580 01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:54,719 miss herald um 1581 01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:58,880 go back to my numbers here please would you please call the role on r 1582 01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:02,639 2721 to get any temporary 1583 01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:09,280 easing of restrictions for outdoor dining in our community 1584 01:49:04,639 --> 01:49:15,840 blanchard yes dean yes gavin yes hennen yes price yes baker yes terbrak 1585 01:49:13,679 --> 01:49:15,840 yes 1586 01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:26,199 we now move to item number seven please resolution number r-28-21 1587 01:49:24,159 --> 01:49:30,960 matter of extending r-21-20 for temporary signage in 1588 01:49:28,639 --> 01:49:33,760 response to covet 19 coba 19 restrictions 1589 01:49:35,599 --> 01:49:40,719 anybody wants to see the end of the party here 1590 01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:44,320 this is part two we're going gonna have communications 1591 01:49:42,639 --> 01:49:48,159 sometimes those are entertaining sometimes not okay all right emotional 1592 01:49:46,639 --> 01:49:52,239 proof support 1593 01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:56,880 uh is there a motion to prove our 2821 motion by council member baker support 1594 01:49:54,159 --> 01:50:00,719 for mayor pro tem dean mr barman garden ms schluteau i'll let 1595 01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:05,760 you guys take it away this is the second part you are now talking to our uh 1596 01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:12,480 interim director of the dda as well as anybody that is with us virtually 1597 01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:16,480 here mr mayor along with the relaxation of outdoor dining across the community 1598 01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:18,960 we have also uh been relaxing some of the 1599 01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:23,119 signage requirements that go along with this in order to allow those that are 1600 01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:28,000 driving through a community or walking through any potential customer 1601 01:50:25,440 --> 01:50:33,520 can be alerted to businesses being open closed having different hours 1602 01:50:30,719 --> 01:50:39,280 having a sale any fantastic opportunity there is to dine shop or enjoy berkeley 1603 01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:43,920 we have allowed our our businesses to take advantage of uh some relaxed 1604 01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:49,040 ordinances it has not been uh largely used uh but it is uh something that we 1605 01:50:46,719 --> 01:50:53,520 would like to continue to offer um certainly as items change this would run 1606 01:50:51,440 --> 01:50:57,440 along parallel to the timeline that we've indicated for uh outdoor dining as 1607 01:50:56,000 --> 01:51:01,040 well right there's a follow-up to the item that we just spoke with in terms of 1608 01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:04,960 the timelines those are the same this is obviously focused on signs whereas the 1609 01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:10,960 first one was focused on outdoor dining and easing some of those restrictions 1610 01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:15,119 erin anything you'd like to add no uh this really just comes to you it 1611 01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:18,000 it it has gone in tandem with the outdoor dining so it only seemed right 1612 01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:22,320 that if we were going to extend one to extend the other so it comes before you 1613 01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:27,119 there hasn't been any issues problems concerns complaints from any residents 1614 01:51:24,480 --> 01:51:30,239 that i've heard or business owners so um you know if it continues to attract 1615 01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:33,040 people and bring people in and show people that we are open and we are a 1616 01:51:31,599 --> 01:51:35,920 vibrant community that's why it's before you this evening 1617 01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:40,639 okay miss mathis i'm going to come over to 1618 01:51:37,199 --> 01:51:44,000 you first do we have any folks um that would like to comment on this 1619 01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:52,000 not at this time sir not at this time okay mr mcginnis uh you don't have to 1620 01:51:50,639 --> 01:51:53,840 believe me you're just the only person outside of 1621 01:51:53,119 --> 01:51:58,159 that that is with us in person so you'll know 1622 01:51:56,480 --> 01:52:02,480 you're not compelled by any stretch but i do know that you also do like downtown 1623 01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:06,159 love signs all right thank you that was that was mike 1624 01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:09,280 mcginnis in case anybody could not see him he chose not to step up to the 1625 01:52:07,679 --> 01:52:12,159 microphone but he does project well enough 1626 01:52:10,159 --> 01:52:16,480 downtown loves signs council councilmember thank you your 1627 01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:19,520 honor and uh thank you again it is i just wonder how the conversation would 1628 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:22,080 have been if we put this one first instead of 1629 01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:25,679 at least they would have been aware that this opportunity so i think i have a 1630 01:52:23,599 --> 01:52:28,320 question and a request the question and you may have hinted at this 1631 01:52:27,440 --> 01:52:32,080 um how what's the uptake on on the extended 1632 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:35,520 uh sign 1633 01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:40,080 um ability and permissions do is there can you give us any kind of 1634 01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:43,679 sense as the degree to which um 1635 01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:47,679 the extension or the the relaxation of the of the ordinances have been utilized 1636 01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:51,679 thus far yeah they're really i'm sorry 1637 01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:56,159 only to say it's been slight so slight yes that's yeah there hasn't been nearly 1638 01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:59,520 as many um this was just more as a method to for people to do grand 1639 01:52:57,679 --> 01:53:02,480 openings and you know we are open or just yeah know that you're open and just 1640 01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:05,599 to let us know that we're open now that things have been open for quite some 1641 01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:09,520 time there really hasn't been a whole lot of um continued uh 1642 01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:12,719 need that's not the right word there hasn't 1643 01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:16,560 been a whole lot of people who have continued to do that so 1644 01:53:14,639 --> 01:53:20,159 it really was the the very beginning but given that things are 1645 01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:25,280 trending in another way we want to make sure that we continue to offer this as a 1646 01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:28,880 relaxed incentive for people to to advertise their businesses here in our 1647 01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:33,679 community in case that does happen in case it does hopefully not thank you 1648 01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:38,000 then my uh my request might be given our dynamic dda director here and and many 1649 01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:42,800 other fantastic folks that are here to help promote the city maybe there's a 1650 01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:45,920 way that we can provide some additional information or some 1651 01:53:44,159 --> 01:53:49,599 reminders or some ways to help let people know that this 1652 01:53:48,719 --> 01:53:54,159 is an option available to them they may 1653 01:53:51,280 --> 01:54:00,400 choose to make it covid related or just general hey we're here we're around and 1654 01:53:57,119 --> 01:54:03,920 get the word out it seems to me i am not a business owner in the city 1655 01:54:02,480 --> 01:54:07,679 but it seems to me that this kind of an opportunity to have the ability to put 1656 01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:12,320 additional signage out can only help right to raise awareness 1657 01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:15,199 to draw more folks into the city and so i guess i'm wondering if there's some 1658 01:54:13,599 --> 01:54:18,880 kind of way that we could put together just even a pamphlet or some kind of 1659 01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:22,960 resources so that 1660 01:54:20,159 --> 01:54:26,239 mr mcginnis and others can can help let folks know that this resource is 1661 01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:29,280 available to them don't count on it forever because it's a temporary 1662 01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:34,000 extension of the relaxation of the ordinances but 1663 01:54:31,599 --> 01:54:38,639 while it's here let's at least see if there is any long-term benefit to uh 1664 01:54:36,239 --> 01:54:41,920 to re-evaluating those ordinances uh down the road as well so i think that's 1665 01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:46,320 my request that really long and verbose but between mr mcginnis and the dda and 1666 01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:51,280 councilmember blanchard liaisoning to the chamber i think let's make sure that 1667 01:54:48,639 --> 01:54:54,239 we are reinforcing this message so that so that folks know so that all 1668 01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:57,520 of our businesses know is that fair can you handle that 1669 01:54:55,679 --> 01:55:02,239 i thought you could thank you also it is nice too that 1670 01:54:59,679 --> 01:55:05,840 there's no fees associated because i know if you have a sandwich 1671 01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:07,679 board and you want to put it outside it's 1672 01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:11,280 i don't know i'm not going to say a number because i don't know what the fee 1673 01:55:08,719 --> 01:55:15,520 is now but there's a fee for that so it has it is nice that that's been taken 1674 01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:19,520 away and i think probably to council member baker's point 1675 01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:23,280 many businesses may not know um that this has been relaxed that they can put 1676 01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:27,520 the signage out there aren't additional fees i mean you can't put it where 1677 01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:30,560 people are going to walk but you know all the information's there but 1678 01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:33,760 to your point getting the word out i think would be really helpful um because 1679 01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:38,080 people may not know especially if we had like some kind of i 1680 01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:41,679 don't know like a parade or something going down 12 mile 1681 01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:44,880 businesses could potentially just if they needed to i mean it seems like that 1682 01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:49,360 would be an art festival right street art fest that we just had and uh uh an 1683 01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:53,599 art bash that we're basically coming as well and there's certainly some 1684 01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:57,599 opportunities to raise um visibility with this yeah if folks do decide to do 1685 01:55:56,080 --> 01:56:00,960 that and i think that's our way of trying to get more folks to 1686 01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:04,960 take advantage of this if it's something that is makes sense to them 1687 01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:09,199 any other questions from council members on that this one is a little bit more 1688 01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:14,800 straightforward we're not talking about a potential road closure in the future 1689 01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:18,719 um okay well seeing no additional questions or comments 1690 01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:26,320 miss harold would you please call the role on our 28-21 1691 01:56:21,599 --> 01:56:33,760 dean yes gavin yes hennen yes price yes baker yes blanchard yes turbrac yes 1692 01:56:31,199 --> 01:56:37,599 uh would we now move on to item number eight please miss harold 1693 01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:41,280 matter of authorizing the city manager to sign the application for additional 1694 01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:44,560 service credit purchase for gina harold approving two years of additional 1695 01:56:42,719 --> 01:56:47,920 service credit this service credit purchase is allowed by the city of 1696 01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:52,760 berkeley merit system of human resource management section 1697 01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:52,760 1001.08 1698 01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:59,360 and meets all the requirements of the mers plan document 1699 01:56:57,520 --> 01:57:03,760 i feel like you will have to abstain on this 1700 01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:07,119 is there a motion to approve i'm 49 21. so moved support 1701 01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:12,000 motion made by councilmember price with support from council member gavin mr 1702 01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:16,560 baumgarten thank you mayor this is a pretty robust motion it does explain 1703 01:57:14,239 --> 01:57:22,400 sort of uh the internal logic behind this coming before you this evening 1704 01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:26,800 the merit system is uh it covers basically any of our employees that 1705 01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:32,080 aren't tied to a a different bargaining unit such as our maple dpw or 1706 01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:35,920 the police unions 1707 01:57:33,679 --> 01:57:39,280 so gina does fall under the merit system being an administrative 1708 01:57:37,679 --> 01:57:43,440 personnel this is adopted by council so this 1709 01:57:41,199 --> 01:57:47,280 benefit is not something that is just developed internally it is actually it 1710 01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:52,239 carries the weight of an action by council and gina is fully qualified 1711 01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:56,800 under those provisions to take advantage of this benefit that we offer 1712 01:57:55,040 --> 01:58:01,040 this does not come without some calculations the numbers 1713 01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:06,400 that you see within the memorandum attached are developed by our finance 1714 01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:09,920 director who works with mers on coming up with these per their calculations 1715 01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:13,920 and these costs are shared by both the employee as 1716 01:58:12,239 --> 01:58:18,320 well as the city itself we do find this benefit to be mutually 1717 01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:22,639 beneficial to both the employee and our overall financial health when it 1718 01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:26,960 comes to our retirement system so uh we like to see people take advantage of 1719 01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:32,239 this uh thankfully uh gina as far as i know plans to uh stick around for what 1720 01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:36,400 30 40 more years uh and we're lucky to have her uh 1721 01:58:35,119 --> 01:58:39,599 and hope that she has a long and fruitful career right here in berkeley i 1722 01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:43,760 do want to point out that in the memo from our finance director mark pollock 1723 01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:46,960 he does clearly say in here since gina is a long way from her 1724 01:58:47,679 --> 01:58:53,520 i retirement that was to you know push off us telling her not to leave any 1725 01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:56,560 earlier and i haven't even messed up yet i haven't called you miss mitchell as 1726 01:58:54,880 --> 01:59:00,800 far as i know at least once tonight so that also bodes well for us in the 1727 01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:04,400 future additional questions uh from council 1728 01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:08,400 we've seen a number of these obviously recently and 1729 01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:11,360 there are certain mutual benefits uh certainly we do not want to see anybody 1730 01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:15,440 leave our community who does a tremendous job but there are benefits on 1731 01:59:13,599 --> 01:59:19,360 both sides and and the contracts are structured in a way to allow this it's 1732 01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:23,440 our role as the final governing body to approve them which we have done in the 1733 01:59:21,119 --> 01:59:23,440 past 1734 01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:30,480 seeing no additional questions or comments 1735 01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:35,040 almost messed up on purpose that time miss harold would you please call the 1736 01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:42,840 roll on m4921 gavin yes hennen yes price yes faker yes 1737 01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:48,159 blanchard yes dean yes turbrack yes we have now reached 1738 01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:51,040 communications and i believe it is council member hannah's turn to go first 1739 01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:53,840 but i am going to start with council member gavin anyway so we can work right 1740 01:59:52,639 --> 01:59:57,440 around thank you your honor uh so planning 1741 01:59:55,440 --> 02:00:00,719 commission the main topic of discussion uh was proposed ordinance amendments on 1742 01:59:59,119 --> 02:00:04,800 a permitted locations for exterior appliance there were also 1743 02:00:02,639 --> 02:00:08,400 elections for chair vice chair and secretary and liaison appointments to 1744 02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:13,119 various boards as well so the next meeting will be tuesday the 1745 02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:17,840 24th at 7 pm and as i indicated last time the eac does not meet this month 1746 02:00:15,599 --> 02:00:20,639 but a reminder about the bike corral that the 1747 02:00:18,719 --> 02:00:23,440 eac will host for the art bash that was already mentioned earlier on september 1748 02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:27,840 11th and a reminder if you'd like to 1749 02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:30,800 volunteer uh to staff the bike crowd you can contact me at ourgavin at 1750 02:00:29,199 --> 02:00:34,480 berkeleymich.net and we'll get you signed up and so the 1751 02:00:32,239 --> 02:00:37,599 next meeting of the eac will be on september 16th at 6 30. and that's all i 1752 02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:40,400 have thank you thank you and councilmember 1753 02:00:39,119 --> 02:00:44,960 hannah that was not a slight to you by starting there i just wanted to keep it 1754 02:00:43,119 --> 02:00:49,679 this way go ahead all right uh first with the zba i just 1755 02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:52,800 wanted to welcome our new members uh their next meeting is tomorrow august 1756 02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:57,679 10th 7 7pm and it'll be the continuation of 1757 02:00:55,440 --> 02:01:01,360 the case they already started hearing on a home edition 1758 02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:06,400 the tree board hasn't met since our next last meeting and but their next meeting 1759 02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:10,400 is scheduled for september 13th however i'm happy to report the city has 1760 02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:14,239 been awarded a four thousand dollar matching grant 1761 02:01:12,239 --> 02:01:19,360 from the michigan department of natural resources and this is going to allow us 1762 02:01:16,400 --> 02:01:24,960 to plant at least 25 additional trees this year in addition to the roughly 200 1763 02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:28,880 that were already scheduled to be added so and then finally i just wanted to 1764 02:01:27,119 --> 02:01:34,239 thank the members of the berkeley gardeners who put together the inaugural 1765 02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:38,880 garden walk on saturday it was well organized my wife and i we learned a lot 1766 02:01:37,119 --> 02:01:43,360 talking to the people looking at their gardens and got to see some really 1767 02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:47,599 beautiful things you know some hidden gems inside berkeley 1768 02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:51,920 thank you excellent thank you mayor pro tem thank you 1769 02:01:49,599 --> 02:01:56,560 um i have some fun parks and rec updates summerfest 2021 continues with an 1770 02:01:54,880 --> 02:02:01,440 outdoor movie in the park tomorrow tuesday august 10th at 7 p.m 1771 02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:06,880 this will take place at oxford park and our featured film is mighty ducks 1772 02:02:04,719 --> 02:02:11,440 ducks fly together gordon bombay who doesn't like a good triple d 1773 02:02:08,639 --> 02:02:15,520 um please bring blankets chairs or your and your picnic basket if you choose 1774 02:02:13,599 --> 02:02:20,560 uh cruise fest and dream cruise are august 20th and 21st respectively and we 1775 02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:25,280 have lots of fun in store the cruise fest parade begins at 6 30 p.m on the 1776 02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:29,360 20th bring your chairs and get a spot on 12 mile to watch the classic car parade 1777 02:02:27,440 --> 02:02:33,119 which goes from woodward to greenfield along 12 mile 1778 02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:36,000 then post parade activities we have musical entertainment you know because 1779 02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:41,280 the street's blocked off so why not take advantage of that musical entertainment 1780 02:02:38,159 --> 02:02:44,639 food vendors street dance party bouncers and new this year 1781 02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:47,440 parks and recreation is hosting another outdoor movie night in front of the 1782 02:02:46,159 --> 02:02:52,159 neighbor shop following the parade so 7 30 8 1783 02:02:49,760 --> 02:02:55,360 o'clock-ish they'll be showing grease so again just 1784 02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:58,480 pick up your chair and move it in front of the neighbor shop and enjoy another 1785 02:02:56,800 --> 02:03:01,840 um classic movie and then finally parks and recreation is 1786 02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:08,239 hosting an ice cream social in community park on 1787 02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:13,040 tuesday august 25th at 5 30 p.m pre-registration is not required to show 1788 02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:17,440 up and what a sweet way to end the summer thank you 1789 02:03:15,199 --> 02:03:20,400 thank you councilmember baker yes thank you your honor a couple quick updates as 1790 02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:23,679 well the downtown development authority dda board 1791 02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:26,560 meets this week's wednesday in two days time 1792 02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:31,040 uh and i'd certainly like to help congratulate all of the volunteers and 1793 02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:34,719 businesses and and residents and artists that came out this past weekend for the 1794 02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:38,639 uh the berkeley street art fest it was a fantastic time the weather ended up 1795 02:03:36,719 --> 02:03:42,080 working out pretty well for us and uh and i saw folks young and old having a 1796 02:03:40,480 --> 02:03:44,960 terrific time as i walked up and down and had a great time talking with 1797 02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:48,239 everyone and admiring the tremendous skill of what they brought to uh to the 1798 02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:51,360 city here with just little pieces of chalk it's 1799 02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:56,639 absolutely amazing uh and please visit downtownberkeley.org 1800 02:03:54,480 --> 02:04:00,480 to to learn more about what's going on in our beautiful in our beautiful city 1801 02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:04,000 here and upcoming events 1802 02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:07,360 historical committee meets tomorrow august 10th 1803 02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:11,040 in the conference room around the corner and they want to thank all the all the 1804 02:04:09,199 --> 02:04:14,639 folks residents that have been lining up to come in and visit the museum since it 1805 02:04:13,199 --> 02:04:19,360 reopened uh and uh you know because whether it 1806 02:04:16,639 --> 02:04:23,760 was your first time or a repeat visitor a splendid time was had by all 1807 02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:28,079 i know they're still trying to uh to be able to receive credit card payments i'm 1808 02:04:26,079 --> 02:04:32,639 not sure where that is in the process it's been a couple of months now 1809 02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:39,040 uh but hopefully they'll be able to expedite um the ability to make an 1810 02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:42,880 exchange of your money for items from that commemorate the city's history i 1811 02:04:40,639 --> 02:04:47,440 think it'd be a great exchange the technology committee meets next 1812 02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:50,800 week's wednesday august 18th and again just a friendly reminder that 1813 02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:54,480 although the city's website remains unsecure it's been several months as 1814 02:04:52,719 --> 02:04:58,320 well any financial transactions are conducted 1815 02:04:56,239 --> 02:05:01,280 through a third party so any financial information 1816 02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:06,239 like the upcoming ability to pay taxes online is done through a third party so 1817 02:05:03,679 --> 02:05:10,480 your information will not be at risk with the unsecured website 1818 02:05:08,719 --> 02:05:14,239 and finally it a quote from david cothrell here who 1819 02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:19,199 said doing the right thing isn't always easy 1820 02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:22,800 in fact sometimes it's real hard but just remembering that doing the 1821 02:05:21,199 --> 02:05:26,320 right but just remember that doing the right thing 1822 02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:29,360 is the right thing and i want to keep this quick 1823 02:05:28,079 --> 02:05:32,960 i want to thank all of the residents and folks here in 1824 02:05:31,119 --> 02:05:38,400 the city that have done the right thing and gotten the covet vaccine 1825 02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:42,159 we lead many of the cities in the state at a exceptionally high vaccination rate 1826 02:05:40,159 --> 02:05:45,440 which is fantastic it goes to 1827 02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:49,119 the care with which we have for ourselves and our families and our 1828 02:05:47,199 --> 02:05:51,360 neighbors and and our fellow residents here 1829 02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:56,079 uh and um for those who choose not to um i just 1830 02:05:54,159 --> 02:06:00,239 hope that it's not based on all the false information and and 1831 02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:04,159 misconceptions that are out there if anybody has any questions about um about 1832 02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:09,119 the vaccine it's its um ability to help protect uh 1833 02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:13,840 especially given the the new delta thing that's ripping its way through the 1834 02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:17,840 country uh it's it's on its way here and it's already been detected so whatever 1835 02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:20,960 we can do to help put your mind at ease and let you know 1836 02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:24,960 that to take care not only of yourself 1837 02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:29,760 but also again for your family for your loved ones for your neighbors for your 1838 02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:33,599 co-workers for the places that you go to uh here in the city and beyond uh please 1839 02:06:32,159 --> 02:06:37,119 do the right thing and help um because unlike many 1840 02:06:35,199 --> 02:06:40,639 decisions this isn't just an individual decision because your decision affects 1841 02:06:39,119 --> 02:06:44,880 everybody around you uh so thank you uh and let's continue to 1842 02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:48,079 do the right thing and and have berkeley lead by example with the tremendous 1843 02:06:46,639 --> 02:06:52,320 vaccination rate thanks thank you councilmember baker 1844 02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:57,520 councilmember price yes thank you mayor turbrack um like 1845 02:06:55,520 --> 02:07:02,560 councilmember baker i'd like to offer big thanks to everyone the berkeley 1846 02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:08,000 chamber city staff and all the volunteers who pulled off yet another 1847 02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:13,360 amazing street art fest on saturday my kids and i had a blast doing crafts 1848 02:07:10,639 --> 02:07:18,000 admiring the chalk art chatting with davidson their very 1849 02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:22,159 favorite artists in the whole world and reconnecting with so many members of 1850 02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:26,000 our community in the festive and fun environment 1851 02:07:23,599 --> 02:07:30,159 what a great way to showcase our coolidge businesses and the creative 1852 02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:34,960 spirit that drives berkeley forward bravo 1853 02:07:32,239 --> 02:07:39,679 and finally with covet cases on the rise and schools preparing to reopen i also 1854 02:07:37,520 --> 02:07:44,719 wanted to urge everyone who is eligible to receive the vaccine to get one 1855 02:07:42,159 --> 02:07:48,480 coveted vaccines are safe and effective and they will protect you your family 1856 02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:52,719 and our community thank you 1857 02:07:50,480 --> 02:07:55,920 thank you councilmember blanchard thank you honor i have a bunch i saw you run 1858 02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:59,840 down that thing last minute too i almost got you too soon uh 1859 02:07:58,079 --> 02:08:03,599 the daily tribute had the best of the best readers choice awards and a number 1860 02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:08,159 of our businesses were selected and i'd like to read them off 1861 02:08:05,199 --> 02:08:12,400 they were rated as one two or three berkeley or the best coney island was 1862 02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:18,079 berkeley a w best family restaurant number one was alex's berkeley best ice 1863 02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:22,000 cream number two clark's ice cream best lunch place 1864 02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:26,560 three third place was the lunch cafe best middle eastern lebanese restaurant 1865 02:08:24,079 --> 02:08:29,520 number one the original mr kebab in berkeley 1866 02:08:27,679 --> 02:08:36,000 best collision shop number two was berkeley collision best dentist dr 1867 02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:38,880 dr sarah ruddy best dry cleaners number two was janet 1868 02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:42,159 davis best eye doctor berkeley eyewear and 1869 02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:46,079 local sunglass company best tattoo parlor number three was 1870 02:08:43,679 --> 02:08:49,840 american pride tattoo and they were out at the 1871 02:08:47,599 --> 02:08:56,159 chalk fest giving tattoos to kids that was very interesting 1872 02:08:51,300 --> 02:08:59,840 [Laughter] our best veterinary clinic number three 1873 02:08:57,679 --> 02:09:05,199 was berkeley animal clinic best bike store number third place was d bicycles 1874 02:09:03,199 --> 02:09:08,639 best bridal store number one the wedding shop and number 1875 02:09:07,119 --> 02:09:11,119 two jenna and white so we got the wedding business pretty well taken up 1876 02:09:10,239 --> 02:09:15,199 here uh best candy store number two was 1877 02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:19,280 sydney bog suite essentials best gift shop and boutique two was 1878 02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:23,520 catching fireflies and three was yellow door art market 1879 02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:28,960 best jeweler number three was matt gross jeweler studio best resale shop was some 1880 02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:33,280 girl boutique that was every third place and the best 1881 02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:35,920 unique store three was the twisted shamrock 1882 02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:39,679 so we had a number of great businesses that showed up on that list and i'm 1883 02:09:37,760 --> 02:09:42,719 proud of all of them on my last minute notes we're making a 1884 02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:46,560 note that one thing nobody's talking about yet that i almost forgot is on 1885 02:09:44,719 --> 02:09:53,520 saturday we had the grand opening of pinspiration down on cartwheels a new uh 1886 02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:57,520 arts and crafts store so i take 20 years away mr mayor no that's 1887 02:09:55,280 --> 02:10:00,480 fine i i'm glad and i also like to thank the berkeley 1888 02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:04,480 chamber for their great efforts at the street rfs they did a great job 1889 02:10:02,719 --> 02:10:09,119 and i'd also like to thank berkeley american legion post 374 for honoring 1890 02:10:06,639 --> 02:10:13,040 public safety officer brian gather saturday in what we hope will be an 1891 02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:17,040 annual event honoring the public safety officer of the year 1892 02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:21,840 and my quote successful emergency management relies 1893 02:10:18,880 --> 02:10:25,599 upon experience and expertise leo bonzer 1894 02:10:23,679 --> 02:10:30,639 will you bring both thank you council member blanchard mr 1895 02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:34,079 baumgarten uh thank you samaras i want to remind everybody that our newsletter 1896 02:10:32,079 --> 02:10:38,000 comes out every month it is chock full of great information a couple of 1897 02:10:36,079 --> 02:10:42,880 highlights this month outside of my bad jokes are the clerk's office represented 1898 02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:47,760 by ms harold this evening did note that av ballot applications uh are being 1899 02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:50,400 mailed out to the permanent list this week 1900 02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:53,920 that is not to say the ballots themselves but if that's uh what you 1901 02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:57,040 would like to do if you'd like to vote in that way 1902 02:10:55,119 --> 02:11:00,400 that application makes you return that application in time so that you can get 1903 02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:04,719 that mailed to you as well very convenient uh 1904 02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:08,719 do it's uh fun to talk about election season until it actually gets here but 1905 02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:12,719 we're still in that fun phase right now before the the work associated that 1906 02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:16,000 really starts to ramp up next up our community development 1907 02:11:14,480 --> 02:11:20,239 department has boxes all throughout the city each 1908 02:11:18,639 --> 02:11:24,239 of our public buildings city hall the library the recreation department as 1909 02:11:22,079 --> 02:11:29,440 well as public works all soliciting feedback and information on our 1910 02:11:27,280 --> 02:11:33,119 draft master plan that's out for a 63 day period right now we only ask that 1911 02:11:31,599 --> 02:11:37,440 you get those comments back to us by september 23rd 1912 02:11:35,119 --> 02:11:42,960 but certainly take a chance read the documents understand the vision of the 1913 02:11:41,040 --> 02:11:46,880 collective vision of the community as told by you the the residents that 1914 02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:50,320 live here and that's how that's how we got to this point and that's how we will 1915 02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:54,639 proceed as well so there's still not plenty of opportunity 1916 02:11:51,679 --> 02:12:00,000 to to have your voice heard on that item and then uh last but not least the uh 1917 02:11:57,440 --> 02:12:04,560 not just us but other depa apartments or uh community groups 1918 02:12:01,599 --> 02:12:09,119 facilitates or uh the content that goes into that this document so you can read 1919 02:12:06,719 --> 02:12:12,880 wonderful information from the chamber as well as the dda 1920 02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:16,719 all sorts of fun fun information and the very last page gives a full listing of 1921 02:12:15,119 --> 02:12:19,679 all of the different meetings and stuff that come are coming up in the month of 1922 02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:23,360 august so keep in mind these are all public and 1923 02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:26,719 in-person meetings once again so we'd love to see you come by and see what's 1924 02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:30,719 happening not just at the council meeting but also the individual groups 1925 02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:36,560 that make this city wonderful so that's my only item mr mayor thank you mr 1926 02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:40,400 attorney uh mr mayor thank you uh nothing new to report this evening all 1927 02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:44,719 is well when you say that that is a good thing i 1928 02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:46,960 i appreciate that um 1929 02:12:45,679 --> 02:12:49,920 i have a number of things but you're going to sense a common theme because i 1930 02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:54,320 think just about all of them have been mentioned i do want to congratulate 1931 02:12:51,599 --> 02:12:58,400 brian gothard as the public safety officer of the year and i want to thank 1932 02:12:56,159 --> 02:13:00,480 the legion for putting that event together 1933 02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:04,320 um ike and and the crew just a tremendous 1934 02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:08,480 night for brian something that i think is going to continue in the future um 1935 02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:11,760 but recognizing the public uh public safety officers in our community for 1936 02:13:10,159 --> 02:13:17,280 what they do on a daily basis again these are true community police officers 1937 02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:22,320 many of the things um that the the chief was speaking about in his introduction 1938 02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:25,599 who has worse jokes than you might i add um 1939 02:13:23,599 --> 02:13:28,960 you know was was not just about the life saving and and the typical things that 1940 02:13:27,679 --> 02:13:31,920 we think about with public safety officers it was the times when brian 1941 02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:35,520 stopped and played basketball with some kids or just interacted with people 1942 02:13:34,079 --> 02:13:39,119 those are the things that really that people remember and that's that's how 1943 02:13:37,599 --> 02:13:41,520 they form their perception of our community it's not just if you do 1944 02:13:40,480 --> 02:13:44,159 something wrong they're here when you're doing things 1945 02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:47,119 that are right as well and they want to be here and are part of the community so 1946 02:13:45,840 --> 02:13:50,960 that was a great night certainly want to congratulate the 1947 02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:53,599 chamber it was the first real city-wide event we've had in about a year and a 1948 02:13:52,400 --> 02:13:56,800 half and it was 1949 02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:59,760 tremendous it went off without a hitch to have the event but also the 1950 02:13:58,159 --> 02:14:03,199 additional spacing this year i think also made other made folks feel more 1951 02:14:01,760 --> 02:14:05,599 comfortable and being able to walk around 1952 02:14:04,079 --> 02:14:09,199 you know hit hit some of the different booths and vendors there but also see 1953 02:14:07,280 --> 02:14:13,920 the chalk art and do it in a way that allowed folks to remain socially distant 1954 02:14:11,199 --> 02:14:19,280 and feel safe and comfortable out there um and as was mentioned pinspiration um 1955 02:14:17,119 --> 02:14:23,520 also with the ribbon cutting uh that day as well where community meets creativity 1956 02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:26,880 that is that is what inspiration is all about um and it's i imagine a place that 1957 02:14:25,599 --> 02:14:29,280 my children are going to want to visit quite frequently 1958 02:14:28,239 --> 02:14:33,679 um on the subject of 1959 02:14:31,119 --> 02:14:38,400 cutting ribbons vibe credit union on july 21st actually officially cut their 1960 02:14:36,560 --> 02:14:42,639 ribbon on their new branch it's not new but it if you have 1961 02:14:41,119 --> 02:14:45,840 driven past it certainly looks brand new and if you've been inside it is 1962 02:14:43,840 --> 02:14:50,000 definitely brand new a place that has not been changed in the 41 years that 1963 02:14:48,079 --> 02:14:53,679 i've been around this community has seen a significant change 1964 02:14:52,480 --> 02:14:58,079 and they they were able to cut the ribbon on the 21st it was relatively 1965 02:14:55,119 --> 02:15:01,520 small um there had some executives there and their board 1966 02:14:59,360 --> 02:15:05,360 of directors was there as well but on this wednesday they are doing an event 1967 02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:09,920 for the members um in the afternoon on wednesday and i've been told that there 1968 02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:12,480 is supposed to be ice cream there and if not 1969 02:15:10,719 --> 02:15:18,560 please go inside and ask to see tamara she will certainly 1970 02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:22,560 help you out um if there is not um also as mentioned cruise fest is 1971 02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:25,040 coming up the art bash is coming up before our next meeting as well has been 1972 02:15:24,079 --> 02:15:28,880 mentioned and hopefully another public safety golf 1973 02:15:26,639 --> 02:15:32,320 outing for the one that was unfortunately cancelled rather last 1974 02:15:31,360 --> 02:15:36,880 minute i mean and also again please remain 1975 02:15:34,480 --> 02:15:41,520 vigilant there are new cdc guidelines now even if you are fully 1976 02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:45,119 vaccinated recommending in public indoor settings when there's a lot of people 1977 02:15:43,280 --> 02:15:49,360 packed in a substantial or high transmission risk to please they 1978 02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:53,280 recommend wearing a mask also fully vaccinated people might 1979 02:15:50,960 --> 02:15:56,079 choose to wear a mask if they live with folks who are 1980 02:15:54,400 --> 02:16:00,400 immunocompromised or potentially at higher risk again this is coming back to 1981 02:15:57,920 --> 02:16:04,320 recommending now even vaccinated folks if they want to to continue to be as 1982 02:16:02,320 --> 02:16:08,079 safe as possible recommending that they continue to wear masks in those in those 1983 02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:12,000 settings and for schools 1984 02:16:09,679 --> 02:16:16,400 cdc recommends universal indoor masking for all teachers staff and students and 1985 02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:21,360 visitors to schools regardless of vaccination status and i say that as 1986 02:16:18,960 --> 02:16:25,440 well because school will be back before our next meeting and our district is 1987 02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:29,440 following those same rules that were announced just last week 1988 02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:35,040 that teacher staff students visitors everybody has to be masked regardless of 1989 02:16:32,639 --> 02:16:39,519 vaccination status and i think that is the correct decision uh superintendent 1990 02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:42,160 scott francis really his first you know big decisions getting really thrown into 1991 02:16:40,960 --> 02:16:45,920 the fire here but i do certainly support that decision 1992 02:16:44,399 --> 02:16:50,559 i don't know that he really could have made any other decision on him and the 1993 02:16:47,920 --> 02:16:53,679 school board and i do support that and i think it is the the correct decision for 1994 02:16:52,319 --> 02:16:58,160 all of our kids so they can safely return to school and actually have a 1995 02:16:55,439 --> 02:17:02,000 school year that is at least more in person and more like you know 1996 02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:05,120 school should be i think for all of the 1997 02:17:03,519 --> 02:17:08,319 students and to the teachers 1998 02:17:07,120 --> 02:17:11,280 another school year is already here summer flew by 1999 02:17:09,679 --> 02:17:14,800 thank you for your service and what you do 2000 02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:19,920 for all of our kids and and last year was especially difficult on educators um 2001 02:17:17,920 --> 02:17:24,160 a former educator sure but my wife is an educator still and i cannot imagine how 2002 02:17:22,160 --> 02:17:27,359 difficult it was for teachers to be making multiple sets of plans where 2003 02:17:25,679 --> 02:17:30,319 virtually are we in person and still trying to 2004 02:17:28,559 --> 02:17:36,719 educate the children to the absolute best of their ability in just absolutely 2005 02:17:34,319 --> 02:17:39,679 unforeseen and unbearable circumstances hopefully the school year certainly goes 2006 02:17:38,160 --> 02:17:42,719 better for them as well 2007 02:17:40,960 --> 02:17:47,760 and with that i will ask for a motion to adjourn 2008 02:17:45,120 --> 02:17:51,920 motion adjourn support motion to adjourn by council member baker with support 2009 02:17:49,519 --> 02:17:56,399 from council member hennen are there any questions no there are not perfect miss 2010 02:17:53,760 --> 02:18:01,200 harold would you please call the roll price 2011 02:17:57,359 --> 02:18:06,359 yes baker yes blanchard yes dean yes gavin yes hennen yes turbrac yes 2012 02:18:04,880 --> 02:18:13,240 the august 9th 2021 meeting of the 38th council of the 2013 02:18:08,960 --> 02:18:13,240 city of berkeley is adjourned 2014 02:18:23,910 --> 02:18:27,000 [Music] 2015 02:18:50,160 --> 02:18:52,240 you