1 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:27,980 How are you going to do that? Research and pushing people until they get sick of it, which is currently actually why crystals at that meeting? So what? We can throw in birx and? Yeah, I do have to know. Yeah, because it is. I love that. Yeah. Please let me know. My slow time. Make it over there. Yeah. 2 00:05:31,620 --> 00:05:38,120 Can do like those traffic, like those like those little islands, those traffic islands. I love those. Got those in Chicago. 3 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:57,540 Good evening, everyone. It's 7 o'clock, so we're going to call the meeting to order of the Zoning Board Advisory Committee at 7 o'clock on Tuesday, September 18th. 4 00:05:57,580 --> 00:06:00,480 Would everyone please stand to say the Pledge of Allegiance? 5 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:00,820 to 6 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:12,600 the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation 7 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,680 under God in indiscipline with liberty and justice for all. 8 00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:25,390 Miss Anderson, if you would do roll call please. 9 00:06:25,690 --> 00:06:25,930 Certainly. 10 00:06:26,750 --> 00:06:27,930 Member Benedict. 11 00:06:28,330 --> 00:06:28,570 Here. 12 00:06:29,170 --> 00:06:30,130 Member Branch. 13 00:06:30,490 --> 00:06:30,650 Here. 14 00:06:31,130 --> 00:06:32,090 Member Krueger. 15 00:06:32,170 --> 00:06:32,350 Here. 16 00:06:32,970 --> 00:06:34,630 Member McDonald is absent. 17 00:06:35,550 --> 00:06:36,730 Vice Chair Sear. 18 00:06:36,930 --> 00:06:37,110 Here. 19 00:06:38,290 --> 00:06:46,210 member willner here and chair webby is absent so we can confirm that we do have a 20 00:06:46,210 --> 00:06:51,990 quorum correct the next thing on the agenda is the approval of of the agenda 21 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:57,330 so it has everybody had a chance to take a look at it I'll move to approve all 22 00:06:57,330 --> 00:07:05,150 right second awesome you can do a roll call vote yes or do we just you just 23 00:07:05,150 --> 00:07:05,990 All in favor. 24 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:06,810 All in favor? 25 00:07:07,410 --> 00:07:07,970 Aye. 26 00:07:08,610 --> 00:07:09,250 Any opposed? 27 00:07:10,750 --> 00:07:11,090 Okay. 28 00:07:11,310 --> 00:07:11,530 All right. 29 00:07:12,750 --> 00:07:17,130 Next is the approval of the minutes from August 10th, which was our last meeting. 30 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:20,050 Hopefully everybody's had a chance to look at them. 31 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:22,010 Does anyone have any corrections or updates? 32 00:07:24,740 --> 00:07:26,700 Someone want to move to approve them then? 33 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,100 So moved. 34 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:29,580 Oh, second. 35 00:07:30,060 --> 00:07:30,240 Great. 36 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:31,920 All in favor? 37 00:07:32,700 --> 00:07:33,080 Aye. 38 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,320 Any opposed? 39 00:07:35,740 --> 00:07:36,100 Okay. 40 00:07:36,100 --> 00:07:37,280 Okay, those are approved. 41 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,580 We do not have any old business, so we'll move on to new business, which is application 42 00:07:43,580 --> 00:08:05,580 number PBA-07-26, which is Ari's cheese steak at 3, 4, 4, 2, 12 mile road, parcel 04-25-07-385-036 and 25-07-385-037. 43 00:08:05,580 --> 00:08:14,380 The north side of 12-mile road between Buckingham Avenue and Oakshire Avenue is requesting a two-foot variance on parking space length. 44 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,280 Ms. Anderson, would you give us the information on the case? 45 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:20,040 Certainly. 46 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:28,760 Ari's cheese steak at 3442-12-mile road is requesting a two-foot variance on parking space length. 47 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:36,140 Berkeley City Code, Zoning Ordnance, Chapter 138, Article 14, Off Street Parking, 48 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Loading and Access Standards, Section 1404, Vehicle Parking Requirements, 49 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:50,080 1404, R13, Table 14042, Off Street Parking Layout for 60-degree parking 50 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:56,560 pattern, maneuvering lane width for one way is 20 feet. Parking space width is 51 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:02,360 nine feet and parking space length is 20 feet. The applicant, Ari Zarkin, 52 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:08,000 representing Ari's cheese steak at 344-212 mile is seeking a non-use 53 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,740 dimensional variance of two feet to allow for the parking space length of 18 54 00:09:13,740 --> 00:09:19,200 feet rather than the required 20 feet to permit the construction of a paved 55 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:25,080 parking lot. Currently the parking lot is non-conforming gravel parking lot on the 56 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:30,720 east side of the building. With the change in use, the parcels are required to be combined 57 00:09:31,090 --> 00:09:37,220 and the gravel parking lot is to be brought to current zoning ordinance, 1404R, and 58 00:09:37,220 --> 00:09:44,860 chapter 126 engineering design standards. The construction of the paved parking lot will 59 00:09:44,860 --> 00:09:52,000 bring a non-conforming parking lot closer to conformity as possible. 344-212-mile recently 60 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,560 went before the planning commission for a site plan review for the construction of the parking 61 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:02,520 lot. The planning commission approved the project for the parking lot with reductions in required 62 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:09,200 number of parking spaces and several landscaping waivers and requested a variance to the zoning board of 63 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,960 appeals on the parking space link provided all that planning commission information is in your 64 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:15,380 package. 65 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,660 For a variance to be approved by the zoning board of appeals it shall meet the 66 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:28,540 standards of Section 138-1704 of the zoning ordinance based on findings of facts. 67 00:10:28,900 --> 00:10:33,240 We request the zoning board of appeals to determine if they are unique characteristics 68 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:38,260 of the property and the applicant demonstrated a practical difficulty in order to grant 69 00:10:38,260 --> 00:10:39,480 a non-use variance. 70 00:10:40,060 --> 00:10:42,160 Questions for approval and denial were in your package. 71 00:10:43,950 --> 00:10:45,130 Thank you. 72 00:10:45,290 --> 00:10:49,210 Does anyone have any questions for Miss Anderson? 73 00:10:53,400 --> 00:11:00,720 open it to the applicant or he is not here with us this evening. He was unable to make it but 74 00:11:01,620 --> 00:11:06,200 he is not required to be here so we can proceed. Okay. 75 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,900 We I guess we can discuss it next. 76 00:11:12,820 --> 00:11:14,020 Pardon me? 77 00:11:14,020 --> 00:11:15,360 Is there any public comment? 78 00:11:16,900 --> 00:11:19,200 No, I'm sorry, yeah, there is one. 79 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,020 There was one. 80 00:11:20,220 --> 00:11:20,420 Okay. 81 00:11:20,780 --> 00:11:20,940 Yeah. 82 00:11:22,300 --> 00:11:23,620 I could pull it out. 83 00:11:24,340 --> 00:11:28,560 I might have it handy, hold on one minute. 84 00:11:32,730 --> 00:11:40,990 It was from Gary Foster, basically on the public hearing notice for the application. 85 00:11:41,690 --> 00:11:44,050 Do I need to read the whole application? 86 00:11:44,330 --> 00:11:44,650 No. 87 00:11:44,650 --> 00:11:46,150 No, no, you can just read what you wrote. 88 00:11:47,330 --> 00:11:50,490 Gary Foster, three, three, seven, six, 12 mile, 89 00:11:51,210 --> 00:11:52,950 said he had no objection. 90 00:11:53,310 --> 00:11:54,810 Good luck to Ari's. 91 00:12:02,460 --> 00:12:04,680 Any questions, any comments? 92 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:05,760 What are you guys thinking? 93 00:12:06,860 --> 00:12:09,600 So I understand like the requirement is 20 feet. 94 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,540 20 feet seems a little bit longer than most standard vehicles, 95 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:15,540 but that would allow for maneuvering in that space. 96 00:12:16,260 --> 00:12:18,460 Do we have other examples where there is an 18 foot 97 00:12:18,460 --> 00:12:23,140 length throughout the city or where we might have an example of that taking place. 98 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,840 So I would say a lot of your, our current ordinance requires 20 feet for your parking 99 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:39,660 length, 9 by 20, and when there's restriping done on a lot of the current parking lots, 100 00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:42,380 a lot of them are not 20 feet. 101 00:12:42,380 --> 00:12:48,340 So, 18 feet is still very reasonable, but our ordinance requires 20. 102 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:55,380 With the parking lot portion, it's a 40-foot wide lot. 103 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:02,180 And the maneuvering aisle, we feel, is more important to have that maneuvering aisle 104 00:13:02,180 --> 00:13:04,040 at the required 20 feet. 105 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:08,540 And then with the fact that there's the two-foot buffer from, you know, that they have to 106 00:13:08,540 --> 00:13:13,700 have a block set to not be up against the building, that's where the parking 107 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:22,460 length would be reduced at 2 feet to 18 to accommodate at least a parking lot 108 00:13:22,460 --> 00:13:27,000 there. Gotcha and this is also a proposed burial restaurant so the idea isn't 109 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,680 that people are spending a whole lot of time. I'd imagine most of the cases this 110 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:35,460 would not be a full lot even if and if it was people might wait a minute or two 111 00:13:35,460 --> 00:13:43,640 before it becomes available. Okay. It would never have any business there. I mean you're 112 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:54,020 not going to meet the new zoning department. So nothing correct. My only question, because I was 113 00:13:54,920 --> 00:14:01,760 I was looking at like the aisle width, which would say it's 20 feet. Like a ram crew cab is 20 feet, 114 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,540 a Lincoln navigator is 18 and a half feet. So even the larger vehicles are gonna 115 00:14:06,540 --> 00:14:13,080 fit within that. My only question was is because again, I live there. The sidewalk, 116 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:18,920 if memory serves me correctly, the sidewalk is adjacent immediately adjacent to 117 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:24,700 where the parking lot is gonna be. Is there any kind of barrier or separation from 118 00:14:24,700 --> 00:14:30,920 the parking lot to the actual sidewalk? So if somebody's pulling out, there's 119 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,860 not necessarily a vehicle pedestrian conflict, 120 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,000 because that space is only 40 feet. 121 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,080 That is a good question, 122 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,020 and that would have been addressed at planning commission. 123 00:14:45,860 --> 00:14:47,780 I would want to check on that, 124 00:14:47,780 --> 00:14:49,680 that could always be some form of, you know, 125 00:14:49,940 --> 00:14:52,060 this condition as far as making sure. 126 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,420 I would imagine there's the parking blocks, 127 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,960 the planning commission did do wave-off, 128 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:23,640 Members, in regards to some of the landscaping, which is sometimes, you know, some of the buffers that go around the parking lot, but the planning commission is able to deviate from the requirements, which were some of the parking requirements could be 15%. So they allowed that. And then some of the landscaping was also, 129 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:31,380 but I would imagine some parking blocks, you know, would be there and that wouldn't take up. 130 00:15:31,380 --> 00:15:36,980 At the end of the day, I'm not sure that that's a material issue for me, but that was the curiosity. 131 00:15:36,980 --> 00:15:50,260 I had just knowing that space, the way that I do is that because of the vehicles backing up there could be a could be an issue with safety in that in that sidewalk area. 132 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:56,480 Yeah, and also there is no parking along that sidewalk area. It would just be by the building. 133 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,660 So there would be no part of it as you're indicating that now. 134 00:16:01,460 --> 00:16:06,860 They should have plenty of room with the 24-while maneuvering. 135 00:16:07,020 --> 00:16:10,120 That's why there's the maneuvering aisle is 20 feet. 136 00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:15,780 I do think I agree that I think it would be a good stipulation to have, 137 00:16:16,060 --> 00:16:18,680 that there would be some sort of barrier to the sidewalk there. 138 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:19,220 I don't know. 139 00:16:19,220 --> 00:16:21,960 I mean, is that something we really, I guess, really not part of? 140 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,180 Yeah, that would be through the planning commission. 141 00:16:25,180 --> 00:16:29,200 if the planning commission had required it then that would be you know through the site 142 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:37,980 plan of the planning commission okay so they did they did approve their layout okay yeah I do 143 00:16:37,980 --> 00:16:50,420 have a question about there based on their drawings of the site could the back three spaces be longer 144 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:59,140 There's going to be a grass area to meet the requirements for behind the building. 145 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,160 Yeah, yes. 146 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,860 And then there's the dumpster there too. 147 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,120 Do you know the expected use of the grass space? 148 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,040 It's the requirements of the peruvial space. 149 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:22,140 Yeah, that's how there's a single bike rack and behind the building as well. Is that VIP parking for employees? 150 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:30,340 Well, it's probably part of the requirements for the site plan to have a park to have a bike rack 151 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,560 It's interesting that it's not in front of the building though. I don't think there there's not room really 152 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,800 He's pretty much right up to the sidewalk. It's right on the side 153 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,300 Well, yeah, it's right where Hartfield is so you would be like right on the side 154 00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:46,060 Okay, it has to be on his properties. 155 00:17:46,380 --> 00:17:46,880 That's okay. 156 00:17:47,020 --> 00:17:47,680 I understand. 157 00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:51,000 Any other questions or comments? 158 00:17:53,140 --> 00:17:55,980 I'll go through the standards, the five standards. 159 00:17:56,740 --> 00:17:57,260 Of course. 160 00:17:57,940 --> 00:17:59,560 Let me go back to that. 161 00:18:00,340 --> 00:18:02,340 And we'll review the five standards. 162 00:18:03,380 --> 00:18:04,240 Excuse me. 163 00:18:04,980 --> 00:18:06,520 First, let's see. 164 00:18:08,610 --> 00:18:09,530 In the minimally. 165 00:18:10,050 --> 00:18:12,630 The need for the variance is due to unique circumstances 166 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:14,770 or physical conditions of the property. 167 00:18:15,890 --> 00:18:21,510 The need for the variance is not the result of the actions of the property owner or previous property owners. 168 00:18:22,550 --> 00:18:29,310 Strict compliance with the ordinance will unreasonably prevent the property owner from using the property for a permitted purpose, 169 00:18:29,950 --> 00:18:34,270 or will render conformity for those regulations unnecessarily burdensome. 170 00:18:35,590 --> 00:18:43,070 The requested variance is the minimum variance necessary to do substantial justice to the applicant as well as other property owners. 171 00:18:43,910 --> 00:18:47,670 And the requested variance will not adversely impact the surrounding properties. 172 00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:52,530 Those are the five standards that we need to look at for this case. 173 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:56,940 I think I'd be willing to make a motion. 174 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,560 All right. Do I need to open it up to the floor first? 175 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,600 You do. Yes. You do need to open to the public hearing. 176 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:08,900 Okay, so at 713 we're opening it up to the public if anyone has any comments 177 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,800 Seeing as there's no comments. We'll close that public 178 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:24,700 portion of the meeting and move on to a motion if you have it. Sure. I'm in the matter of PBA 07-26-344-2-12-Mile Road 179 00:19:24,700 --> 00:19:30,100 parcel 0-4-2-5-0-7-385-0-3-6, and 180 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:35,240 and 2507-385-037, motion to approve the requested variance 181 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,660 from Berkeley City Code's Zoning Ordinance Chapter 138, 182 00:19:38,900 --> 00:19:42,320 Article 14, section 14.02-2, table, 183 00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:44,760 vehicle parking requirements, 184 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,440 off-street parking layout of the city of Berkeley 185 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,640 city codes to grant a dimensional variance 186 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,180 to allow a two-fourth variance of the 18-foot parking space 187 00:19:53,180 --> 00:19:56,380 that does not conform to the applicable city code regulations 188 00:19:57,020 --> 00:19:58,420 based on the following findings. 189 00:19:58,420 --> 00:20:03,580 The need for the variance is due to unique circumstances or physical conditions of the property. 190 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:09,020 The need for the variance is not the result of actions of the property owner or previous property owners. 191 00:20:09,780 --> 00:20:13,340 Strict compliance with the ordinance will unreasonably spend the property owner 192 00:20:13,340 --> 00:20:19,500 from using the property for permitted purpose or will render conformity with those regulations unnecessarily burdensome. 193 00:20:20,020 --> 00:20:25,140 The requested variance is the minimum variance necessary to do substantial justice to the application 194 00:20:25,140 --> 00:20:27,780 and as well as to other property owners, 195 00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:31,480 and the requested variances will not adversely impact 196 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,840 the surrounding properties. 197 00:20:34,380 --> 00:20:34,960 I'll second. 198 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,840 Could we have a vote, please? 199 00:20:41,060 --> 00:20:41,820 Member Wilner? 200 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:42,780 Yes. 201 00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:43,700 Member Benedict? 202 00:20:44,140 --> 00:20:44,400 Yes. 203 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,060 Member Branch? 204 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:46,580 Yes. 205 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:47,760 Member Crude? 206 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:48,180 Yes. 207 00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:50,660 And Vice Chair Cere? 208 00:20:51,140 --> 00:20:51,260 Yes. 209 00:20:52,420 --> 00:20:52,880 Okay. 210 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:53,360 Welcome. 211 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,880 Okay, 212 00:20:57,260 --> 00:21:03,600 moving on to other business, it does not seem that we have any, so we will go to the 213 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,520 staff or Board Member Report. 214 00:21:07,540 --> 00:21:10,220 Let's see, so we still have an opening for an alternate. 215 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,580 We do have Curtis Row that will be joining us. He's getting everything sworn in and such, 216 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,180 so he should be able to join us the next time we need an alternate. Great. 217 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,000 in the packet was your community development monthly report for July. 218 00:21:27,580 --> 00:21:32,840 Clarence Black is with us as far as our council liaison. Welcome. 219 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,640 Thank you. 220 00:21:34,860 --> 00:21:39,900 Let's see next meeting October 12. Yes, we have a couple of cases, two cases. 221 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,600 I will not be here. So Kristen will be assisting on that. 222 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:53,600 that. November meeting is reserved for training through city attorney office for the ZBA. 223 00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:58,620 So we'll have a little training session for the November. We'll close out some stuff 224 00:21:58,620 --> 00:22:06,420 for the year to probably our 2027 calendar at that time as well. And as you all know, I 225 00:22:06,420 --> 00:22:14,420 sent over the packets through Google Drive, but also did the Civil Plus. So we're in the 226 00:22:14,420 --> 00:22:24,960 process of going to that program so I'll give you guys I don't know if you 227 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,520 have any questions when you went through it if you opened it through Google 228 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:36,960 Drive or if you tried to basically when you come to the city website and you go 229 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:42,620 under boards and commission and you pick zoning board you'll scroll down and you'll 230 00:22:42,620 --> 00:22:48,380 see as far as the meetings. And there is a section here that you can click on for agenda 231 00:22:48,380 --> 00:22:59,360 and minute portal. And then basically you would come, you would find your meeting, which 232 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:00,100 is the ZBA. 233 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:10,820 And when that uploads under here, you can go to the meeting files. And this will 234 00:23:10,820 --> 00:23:17,100 give you all your information as far as you know the agenda and then for the case it's got 235 00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:22,080 you know all the information as far as the different uploads that I provide you for the application 236 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:30,220 in the backup and the reports along with you know all the you know with planning you know anything 237 00:23:30,220 --> 00:23:36,400 that I provide to you will be under that section so we will all be navigating through this. 238 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:42,000 I will tell you that it's Council. It's been a game changer for us. It is made 239 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,640 life so much easier and not that Google Drive has not been good because a lot 240 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,800 of people use Google Drive at work and for other you know various things but 241 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:57,900 for us for just the transparency and the organization ability of it it's it's 242 00:23:57,900 --> 00:24:01,500 been outstanding. So if you have not had a chance to set up your civic 243 00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:06,020 plus account I highly recommend it. It's just it is just a really good one-stop shop 244 00:24:06,020 --> 00:24:11,900 for everything city related because you have access to everything so you know for example for you Jason 245 00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:17,300 if you sit on two for you sitting on on two boards I would say it's imperative because it's just 246 00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:22,380 going to be an easy place instead of jumping back and I don't know what platforms those boards use 247 00:24:22,380 --> 00:24:28,700 plus civic plus just going to make it very very easy for all of you so if you have not jumped in I would 248 00:24:28,700 --> 00:24:33,620 I would say go in and the beautiful thing about it is it's meant to kind of be played with because 249 00:24:33,620 --> 00:24:36,200 as you can't get in there and tweak some things 250 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,960 for your particular settings. 251 00:24:38,540 --> 00:24:39,780 So that's just my pitch for it. 252 00:24:39,940 --> 00:24:41,060 It's been amazing. 253 00:24:41,220 --> 00:24:42,480 I got a billion things going on. 254 00:24:42,740 --> 00:24:45,080 So trust me, going from a Google Drive to City Plus 255 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,100 for us just made my life a lot easier, so. 256 00:24:47,460 --> 00:24:47,820 That's good. 257 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,860 I mean, I used to, I used it this time. 258 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:50,980 I didn't have the log interview. 259 00:24:51,380 --> 00:24:53,960 No, I was just going to say, I checked with Rachel, 260 00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:59,140 our city deputy clerk, and she had said that you don't have 261 00:24:59,140 --> 00:25:01,820 to have any separate log in or anything. 262 00:25:01,820 --> 00:25:06,860 coming to the link I send you should you know bring you right to this or going 263 00:25:06,860 --> 00:25:13,360 through the website but Jason like you have that other here here's the 264 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:18,660 environmental one that's on there for today you know so all of their 265 00:25:18,660 --> 00:25:22,720 information would be on here as well if they're using it does not look like 266 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,560 they're using it at this time and I did I created a log but that's just me I'm 267 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,640 like you give me something to play with I'm gonna play with it I'm in there so I 268 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,000 I think I do have a sign in. 269 00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:32,860 I can't tell you what the difference is, 270 00:25:32,980 --> 00:25:34,440 but again, this is easier. 271 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,280 Yeah, it's super. 272 00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:41,560 And it's supposed to, it should make my administrative 273 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,800 portion of it much easier as well, 274 00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:46,040 because right now I have to email this person. 275 00:25:46,060 --> 00:25:48,820 I have to email this person, email this group. 276 00:25:49,620 --> 00:25:50,180 And, apparently. 277 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,820 And she won't say it, but it is for, 278 00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:54,340 and really it was meant for us at the staff auction 279 00:25:54,980 --> 00:25:58,180 because staff was spending a lot of time on Google 280 00:25:58,180 --> 00:26:00,960 will drop me again. It's great, but we were really looking for a elected 281 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,360 teacher because what we do want to do. We want to give Kim back her time. We want to 282 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:08,760 give staff back their time. So having one repository regardless of boards and 283 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,400 everything. That's really what it is. Everything links to it. And it's the kind of 284 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,520 the transparency that we really have finally been looking for is just as a city 285 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,260 period where somebody can't just say, well, I don't like know if you can go and 286 00:26:20,260 --> 00:26:23,160 if you can go there, you can go there. And that's really well. 287 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:28,100 Yeah, Kim, would you show me where the minutes are on that please? 288 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,260 Oh, let's see. 289 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,260 I don't know why, but I couldn't find those. 290 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,840 So, and I could have not. 291 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,860 Oh, if you come here on this section, approval of minutes. 292 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,000 See here on the approval of minutes. 293 00:26:44,260 --> 00:26:46,300 I found the agenda, but I did not. 294 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,820 Oh, well, that, you know what? 295 00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:49,300 I'm sorry. 296 00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:56,520 that could have been me that not posting it correctly as I'm transitioning. So one of them had all the 297 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:02,700 documents in one piece. Yeah, I think right here if you go to the building packet. So that would 298 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:08,900 normally that would be a link. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, it was, it was just an omission. But it was, so 299 00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:14,660 the Google, the Google has the minutes, the Civic Plus doesn't, but the goal would be that she doesn't 300 00:27:14,660 --> 00:27:19,200 have to do a Google right it'll just all be sitting close and that way if there is a mistake 301 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,080 it's just one mistake and not it's here but not here I didn't know if I missed it missed 302 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,360 the link or where it was so I thought it was on there when I was checking through my 303 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:35,540 mouth he made a mistake but we'll flock our app yeah not necessary as I said as we're transitioning 304 00:27:35,540 --> 00:27:44,640 into this so it was pretty it was pretty simple but I guess I'm human first time yeah 305 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:52,160 So that's all I had to report on, so we'll turn it over to our liaison, Mr. Blatt. 306 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:58,920 So next council meeting will be at seven o'clock here in these chambers on 21 September. 307 00:27:59,660 --> 00:28:04,780 And then the only other thing that just want to put before your attention is Saturday. 308 00:28:05,420 --> 00:28:08,920 We have the touch of truck, which is going to be at the community center. 309 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,620 I don't know how many of you are aware that, okay, everybody is. 310 00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:16,900 So yeah, that is from 11 to 1 and it should be a great time. I think there's going to be a donut truck out there 311 00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:22,060 I'll be out there. So encouraging everyone from city staff to everyone serving on a board of commission 312 00:28:22,060 --> 00:28:26,700 Get out there and it's a wonderful event. It should be very exciting. That's all I have 313 00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:30,520 Any public comments? 314 00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:37,040 All right, then we'll adjourn our meeting tonight at 7.22 315 00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:46,300 23 on september 15. Motion to adjourn. Oh sorry I had to, sorry, willner support. 316 00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:47,820 All support. Sorry. 317 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,940 I'm still okay. All right just do the, we've got to do 318 00:28:56,940 --> 00:29:02,440 All in favor? Oh, sorry. All in favor of adjourning the meeting. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? 319 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,100 Nope. All right. We're adjourned. All right.