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Good evening everyone and

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welcome to the

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regular meeting of the

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Berlin City Council on September 28th.

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I'm Jared Felch. To

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my right are

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Brian D'Amico and Carl

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Weisel. To

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my left are Chris Gaywood and

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Flo Smith. Also with us is

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our City

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Administrator Vince

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Conti. I declare

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the meeting open. Are

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there any additions

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or changes to the

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agenda?

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Yes.

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sir.

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We are crossing out

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the protocols.

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Good.

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And there will be no

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decisions regarding the position of

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CFO today. Just

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a few updates.

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Good. Of course. Are there any

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comments from the

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public?

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OK. Discussion of the "

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Good Samaritan".

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If you want to come

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here, please, we

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would be happy to. It's

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nice

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to see you too. It's

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nice to see you too. We

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need to find a new

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chair. It looks like a

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child's.

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It's perfect for my height

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. Sorry.

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What is your name?

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Hatch. Hatch.

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Sorry.

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Luke Jackson.

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Welcome back. Yes, welcome back

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. Thank you

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for coming.

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You provided great

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information last

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time. Thank you for

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coming again. I'm

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sure there will be more

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Lukes here to

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talk about

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tax exemption. You

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all received a package of

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documents.

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Questions arose about whether

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they paid

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taxes. This

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information about what

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they paid was

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sent out. What would you

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like to add? I think

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we're at that

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stage, right? This is an issue that is

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currently on the

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agenda. Yes,

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do you have any more

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questions or

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information?

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Yes, the process from

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last month,

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I think, yes. Is there

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an answer?

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And they, you know, they

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pay their taxes on time now. The

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last bill was

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in mid-August, and

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based on the decision, we

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are determining the next

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steps for everyone at this

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point.

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You know, long

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story short. Yes. Um, if

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everyone remembers the

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story, right? Um,

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before

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the changes there, they

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came to talk

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about a potential

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pilot program to

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meet every year

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to discuss. Um,

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they didn't know

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about some of this

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information at the

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last meeting either.

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But again,

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there are protocols.

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Yes. If anyone

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wants to

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view them, they

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have been sent as well. Here, in

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short, is where

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we are now

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.

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Yes.

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I guess my question is

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: is this something that

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would interest

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the organization—

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implementing a pilot

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program instead of a

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full

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tax exemption?

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Make some

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payments in lieu of

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taxes.

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Hmm, I'm not sure

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exactly how this

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process works. But, you know

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, we are of course ready for

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any discussions

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and needs. I, you know,

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our main goal in all of

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this is to

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make sure that we

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can keep the

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property in good

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condition and address the

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maintenance issues

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that

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arise, including the

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facility improvements that the

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city of Berlin has asked us to make. We

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met with

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Mike, I think it

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was Mike and Joe,

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a few weeks ago to

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talk about,

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for example, our

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code snippet. This is one

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example of

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property improvements, which is important

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to us, but is nearly

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impossible when you are

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running an

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emergency shelter and doing

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constant repairs and

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maintenance.

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the use of the building

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, it is difficult to undertake

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such projects

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while paying

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full

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property tax.

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So, keep going.

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continue.

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So, just to

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answer your

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first question: what

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is our pilot

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project? I brought our

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pilot agreement,

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a copy of which I take and

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review whenever I

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can. And just

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a reminder for the council

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while he's here. In

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the past, previous

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boards agreed

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to meet

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with them annually and

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discuss their

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status and

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solvency.

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Yes.

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So, it was

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agreed upon then. This is

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recorded in

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the protocols. So

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theoretically it's still

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relevant for

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discussion today

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.

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Yes.

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And how many

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real estate properties are there?

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We now own

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shelters.

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And where exactly, because I'm

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trying to remember.

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Montpelier, Berlin,

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Barre City, and Barre in

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New England. We

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own properties in

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Berlin, Montpelier, and

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Barre City, and rent in

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South

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Burlington

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other cities offered you programs?

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Regarding taxes.

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Any other cities?

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We have been enjoying the

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exemption in Barre

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City for decades. I do

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n't...I would assume.

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Last year, our tax exemption

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was also renewed in Barre City

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. So, as

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part of our

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process of sending these

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forms to cities, Barre

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City was on the list, and

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Montpellier was on the list, too, because it's a

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recently acquired

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property.

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Right.

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Yes.

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So, in Barre Town, do you

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pay taxes?

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In Barre City—no.

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In Barre City, so you

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said Montpellier,

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Berlin and only Barre

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space in

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Burlington.

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Burlington.

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Ahem. So theoretically we

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could do this

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every year. If we

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were going to grant an

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exemption, it could

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be for 1 year. And

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then watch it?

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Or how often do you...

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We do it in Barre

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City.

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Well, it's definitely not every year

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in Barre City, but I'm not

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sure how often

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it happens. Maybe

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every 3 years.

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Of course.

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As I understood from the

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council meeting, it

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was presented as if

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yes, they

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would come to

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council every year to

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discuss what they

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could or could not

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afford. Regarding

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taxes.

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It would be more

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like a pilot

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program.

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This is

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instead of exemption

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from payment.

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This, this is

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correct.

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This makes a pilot

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program or

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tax exemption a kind of "

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middle ground," in

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my opinion.

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Yes.

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Of course? It's neither one nor the

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other, it's something in between.

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True.

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The Council tried to be The

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Council tried to be

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flexible and how did I

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interpret that then?

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What are the annual taxes

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?

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Sorry, I have this

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data. I Yes, I do

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n't have an exact number.

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Somewhere around 30 thousand.

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This is 30 something.

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30

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26 39 28. Does it seem true?

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I hope so. $32,639.28. And

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they can pay

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quarterly.

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Yeah, I think, you

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know, clarifying

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the process, you know,

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city policy

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versus a pilot

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program for cities

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that is set up by the

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state. So, I'm still, you

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know, figuring out the

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difference between city

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policy and the

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pilot program

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that we talked about

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earlier, which was a

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state program

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for cities.

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Oh, you mean the one the

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state pays?

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Yes.

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Oh, with

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Here's a look at the

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state pilot

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program, which

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differs from

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our own

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city

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property tax policy.

329
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This is good. Can I

330
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ask a question?

331
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I'm a little

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confused. That 32,000 and

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something you

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just mentioned, was that

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taxes? Are these both

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city and school

337
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taxes? And how is that

338
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different from a

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grant, which has to be

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voted on at the

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meeting, and I don't think

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it can

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include a

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school

345
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tax exemption at all.

346
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Right. So I'll have to

347
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look and

348
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see. I just

349
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got the resume. I

350
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don't know if that includes

351
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school taxes or

352
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not. Um, there is no

353
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tax distribution specified here. This is

354
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just a quarterly

355
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amount. I don't see a

356
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breakdown here.

357
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Yes, I I you know, or

358
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it's

359
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I I don't know. I

360
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don't have this

361
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information. Sorry.

362
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So, Fran, I'm sorry. Are

363
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you saying that this

364
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should or should not

365
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include school

366
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taxes?

367
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Well, I What Vince said

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, about this being the

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"middle ground" for

370
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Grange, is

371
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tax exemption. But, if I

372
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recall, they

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did it

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wrong the first year, and they

375
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were allowed

376
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to be exempt from

377
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school taxes,

378
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but that's not possible, because

379
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it's separate. You would

380
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have to

381
00:10:00,698 --> 00:10:01,501
contact the

382
00:10:01,501 --> 00:10:02,405
school board.

383
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A.

384
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I think it's required to

385
00:10:04,850 --> 00:10:06,002
consider any

386
00:10:06,002 --> 00:10:07,061
dismissal, if I

387
00:10:07,061 --> 00:10:08,252
remember correctly.

388
00:10:08,252 --> 00:10:09,512
But if you're talking

389
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about a pilot project,

390
00:10:10,773 --> 00:10:12,066
then I think that's a completely

391
00:10:12,066 --> 00:10:13,294
different story that I do

392
00:10:13,294 --> 00:10:16,953
n't quite understand.

393
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But the other thing is that

394
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for

395
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tax exemption there had to be

396
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a vote in the hall. And

397
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the decision was

398
00:10:24,533 --> 00:10:26,276
made, how often? I

399
00:10:26,276 --> 00:10:28,470
forgot how it is. 3 years, 5

400
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years, it doesn't matter, but for

401
00:10:29,924 --> 00:10:31,266
some reason it had to be a

402
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vote in the hall. And

403
00:10:33,662 --> 00:10:34,994
for a while the fire

404
00:10:34,994 --> 00:10:35,807
department

405
00:10:35,807 --> 00:10:36,830
That's right.

406
00:10:36,830 --> 00:10:37,929
also did this, but

407
00:10:37,929 --> 00:10:39,262
now they are part of

408
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the municipality.

409
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See if they have it.

410
00:11:01,253 --> 00:11:02,502
That would be in March,

411
00:11:02,502 --> 00:11:05,517
right?

412
00:11:05,517 --> 00:11:06,767
It would be a special

413
00:11:06,767 --> 00:11:08,083
vote, it would be

414
00:11:09,594 --> 00:11:10,723
No, it should have been it

415
00:11:10,723 --> 00:11:11,951
should have been in March,

416
00:11:11,951 --> 00:11:13,180
it should have been it should have

417
00:11:13,180 --> 00:11:14,120
been

418
00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,876
Yes, but okay. Yes, it's

419
00:11:15,876 --> 00:11:36,449
still an appropriation.

420
00:11:36,449 --> 00:11:41,547
This is inaccurate.

421
00:11:41,547 --> 00:11:42,636
I would probably advise

422
00:11:42,636 --> 00:11:43,787
us to get more

423
00:11:43,787 --> 00:11:44,659
information about the

424
00:11:44,659 --> 00:11:45,904
actual tax

425
00:11:45,904 --> 00:11:47,327
bill.

426
00:11:47,327 --> 00:11:49,415
What? Is there a breakdown of what

427
00:11:49,415 --> 00:11:50,598
it includes?

428
00:11:50,598 --> 00:11:52,493
Right. And

429
00:11:52,493 --> 00:11:53,634
the Process.

430
00:11:53,634 --> 00:11:54,697
as to

431
00:11:54,697 --> 00:11:55,959
where we should go

432
00:11:55,959 --> 00:11:56,657
if this needs to be

433
00:11:56,657 --> 00:11:57,521
put to a

434
00:11:57,521 --> 00:12:01,498
vote in the floor. Uh

435
00:12:01,498 --> 00:12:02,655
, and as for the

436
00:12:02,655 --> 00:12:03,953
education tax,

437
00:12:03,953 --> 00:12:09,431
where does it go next? So

438
00:12:09,431 --> 00:12:10,596
, and also, I think you

439
00:12:10,596 --> 00:12:11,870
might have a

440
00:12:11,870 --> 00:12:12,999
conversation with your

441
00:12:12,999 --> 00:12:14,383
organization about

442
00:12:14,383 --> 00:12:15,402
what we have for the

443
00:12:15,402 --> 00:12:16,786
pilot program, uh

444
00:12:16,786 --> 00:12:17,441
, and then we'll

445
00:12:17,441 --> 00:12:18,643
come back when

446
00:12:18,643 --> 00:12:19,735
we have more

447
00:12:19,735 --> 00:12:23,554
information. Sorry to

448
00:12:23,554 --> 00:12:24,594
continue.

449
00:12:24,594 --> 00:12:26,261
No problem. But

450
00:12:26,261 --> 00:12:27,276
I think it's good

451
00:12:27,276 --> 00:12:27,720
because

452
00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:28,925
presenting it

453
00:12:28,925 --> 00:12:29,590
gives you time to

454
00:12:29,590 --> 00:12:30,573
review it with

455
00:12:30,573 --> 00:12:31,944
your people. Was there a

456
00:12:31,944 --> 00:12:33,786
third?

457
00:12:33,786 --> 00:12:34,928
Sorry. Uh, to

458
00:12:34,928 --> 00:12:36,008
see a breakdown of what

459
00:12:36,008 --> 00:12:37,246
they're paying

460
00:12:37,246 --> 00:12:37,696
now.

461
00:12:37,696 --> 00:12:38,279
True.

462
00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:39,701
What do I mean?

463
00:12:39,701 --> 00:12:40,609
Education

464
00:12:40,609 --> 00:12:41,739
vs. education

465
00:12:41,739 --> 00:12:44,115
tax. What is the process

466
00:12:44,115 --> 00:12:45,322
if we need to go

467
00:12:45,322 --> 00:12:46,529
to a floor vote

468
00:12:46,529 --> 00:12:47,585
for

469
00:12:47,585 --> 00:12:49,931
tax exemption. Because it

470
00:12:49,931 --> 00:12:51,062
seems to me that if we

471
00:12:51,062 --> 00:12:51,918
wanted to make a

472
00:12:51,918 --> 00:12:53,110
dismissal, it should be

473
00:12:53,110 --> 00:12:53,905
put to a

474
00:12:53,905 --> 00:12:56,081
vote in the chamber.

475
00:12:56,081 --> 00:12:57,160
But as for the pilot

476
00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:58,370
program, we could

477
00:12:58,370 --> 00:13:03,493
solve it here. Uh, and

478
00:13:03,493 --> 00:13:04,253
also just

479
00:13:04,253 --> 00:13:05,267
having more

480
00:13:05,267 --> 00:13:10,812
conversations in the future.

481
00:13:10,812 --> 00:13:11,914
Uh, because if it

482
00:13:11,914 --> 00:13:13,147
comes to dismissal,

483
00:13:13,147 --> 00:13:14,153
and we have to

484
00:13:14,153 --> 00:13:14,769
hold a

485
00:13:14,769 --> 00:13:15,937
floor vote,

486
00:13:15,937 --> 00:13:18,670
it should be a

487
00:13:18,670 --> 00:13:19,756
town meeting.

488
00:13:19,756 --> 00:13:20,517
I understand.

489
00:13:20,517 --> 00:13:20,914
Yes.

490
00:13:20,914 --> 00:13:23,678
Or special fees.

491
00:13:23,678 --> 00:13:24,536
To have

492
00:13:24,536 --> 00:13:25,818
We have to set

493
00:13:25,818 --> 00:13:27,202
Yes.

494
00:13:27,202 --> 00:13:28,112
If you would like to

495
00:13:28,112 --> 00:13:29,393
clarify this issue,

496
00:13:29,393 --> 00:13:30,539
perhaps you can

497
00:13:30,539 --> 00:13:31,787
contact us and

498
00:13:31,787 --> 00:13:32,765
we will return this

499
00:13:32,765 --> 00:13:33,709
suggestion or

500
00:13:33,709 --> 00:13:34,720
recommendation

501
00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,529
based on this

502
00:13:35,529 --> 00:13:38,686
pilot project. I

503
00:13:38,686 --> 00:13:39,797
don't see anything here

504
00:13:39,797 --> 00:13:41,073
about voting on

505
00:13:41,073 --> 00:13:44,258
this. I don't know what it

506
00:13:44,258 --> 00:13:48,099
could be. I'm

507
00:13:48,099 --> 00:13:51,670
looking at Well

508
00:13:51,670 --> 00:13:52,866
, I think we

509
00:13:52,866 --> 00:13:53,870
need to study

510
00:13:53,870 --> 00:13:55,851
history.

511
00:13:55,851 --> 00:13:56,691
You filled out a

512
00:13:56,691 --> 00:13:58,022
state application, it

513
00:13:58,022 --> 00:13:59,073
says you, and

514
00:13:59,073 --> 00:14:00,123
then the evaluators

515
00:14:00,123 --> 00:14:01,279
recommended it,

516
00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:02,330
you know, they either

517
00:14:02,330 --> 00:14:03,695
recommend it or they don't,

518
00:14:03,695 --> 00:14:04,361
and then it's

519
00:14:04,361 --> 00:14:06,172
reviewed. Are

520
00:14:06,172 --> 00:14:07,011
we talking about a

521
00:14:07,011 --> 00:14:07,763
layoff or a

522
00:14:07,763 --> 00:14:08,901
pilot project?

523
00:14:08,901 --> 00:14:09,918
What are you looking at?

524
00:14:09,918 --> 00:14:15,599
Release.

525
00:14:15,599 --> 00:14:16,944
Okay, we need to

526
00:14:16,944 --> 00:14:17,680
clarify.

527
00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:19,942
Yes. I think so.

528
00:14:19,942 --> 00:14:20,494
Get

529
00:14:20,494 --> 00:14:21,370
confirmation of the

530
00:14:21,370 --> 00:14:23,319
story. And then we'll

531
00:14:23,319 --> 00:14:24,156
come back and

532
00:14:24,156 --> 00:14:24,831
continue

533
00:14:24,831 --> 00:14:27,324
the discussion. Good.

534
00:14:27,324 --> 00:14:28,846
Thank you for your time and

535
00:14:28,846 --> 00:14:29,856
patience, and maybe

536
00:14:29,856 --> 00:14:30,734
we won't have to

537
00:14:30,734 --> 00:14:31,320
ask you to

538
00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,032
come back.

539
00:14:32,032 --> 00:14:32,610
Good.

540
00:14:32,610 --> 00:14:35,400
But we'll see.

541
00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,529
Thank you, Luke.

542
00:14:37,529 --> 00:14:38,482
Yes, sir.

543
00:14:38,482 --> 00:14:39,023
Good.

544
00:14:39,023 --> 00:14:40,244
Thank you for coming.

545
00:14:40,244 --> 00:14:40,895
Thank you.

546
00:14:40,895 --> 00:14:41,815
Goodbye.

547
00:14:41,815 --> 00:14:43,228
We appreciate your work.

548
00:14:43,228 --> 00:14:54,526
You too. Good.

549
00:14:54,526 --> 00:14:55,365
Discussion and

550
00:14:55,365 --> 00:14:56,084
decision on

551
00:14:56,084 --> 00:14:57,253
repayment of loan for

552
00:14:57,253 --> 00:14:58,501
fire truck. So, this has

553
00:14:58,501 --> 00:14:59,609
already been discussed

554
00:14:59,609 --> 00:15:00,449
several times.

555
00:15:00,449 --> 00:15:01,769
Yes.

556
00:15:01,769 --> 00:15:02,654
Let's just

557
00:15:02,654 --> 00:15:03,476
look at the

558
00:15:03,476 --> 00:15:05,262
solution. Are

559
00:15:05,262 --> 00:15:07,421
we making decisions?

560
00:15:07,421 --> 00:15:15,657
Um, so the payment for the

561
00:15:15,698 --> 00:15:19,184
Quint fire ladder truck. The total amount

562
00:15:19,184 --> 00:15:21,398
due, taking into account the

563
00:15:21,398 --> 00:15:23,329
repayment period,

564
00:15:23,329 --> 00:15:28,585
is 84,833.74. Um, for

565
00:15:28,585 --> 00:15:31,936
that one. For

566
00:15:31,936 --> 00:15:34,179
the Pierce truck,

567
00:15:34,179 --> 00:15:37,143
the payout is

568
00:15:37,143 --> 00:15:47,679
63,728.31. For the same one. So, the

569
00:15:47,679 --> 00:15:49,026
loan dates were in, and I'm

570
00:15:49,026 --> 00:15:50,302
reading Kelly's notes

571
00:15:50,302 --> 00:15:51,684
because she couldn't be

572
00:15:51,684 --> 00:15:52,854
here, as I mentioned

573
00:15:52,854 --> 00:16:00,126
earlier. The interest rate

574
00:16:00,126 --> 00:16:01,547
on loans

575
00:16:01,547 --> 00:16:07,314
is 6.21%.

576
00:16:07,314 --> 00:16:08,433
Paid as of

577
00:16:08,433 --> 00:16:09,786
today, um, for the

578
00:16:09,786 --> 00:16:11,512
tower truck,

579
00:16:11,512 --> 00:16:12,584
um, interest

580
00:16:12,584 --> 00:16:14,450
is approximately

581
00:16:14,450 --> 00:16:19,405
2676. And for the truck—

582
00:16:19,405 --> 00:16:28,824
2016 with pennies. So,

583
00:16:28,824 --> 00:16:32,054
again, Joe, do

584
00:16:32,054 --> 00:16:33,349
you have anything, boss, you

585
00:16:33,349 --> 00:16:34,830
want to say about

586
00:16:34,830 --> 00:16:37,601
this? I

587
00:16:37,601 --> 00:16:39,427
suppose so.

588
00:16:39,427 --> 00:16:41,237
Of course. I mean,

589
00:16:41,237 --> 00:16:42,039
paying off

590
00:16:42,039 --> 00:16:43,242
loans is really the

591
00:16:43,242 --> 00:16:45,626
right thing to do.

592
00:16:45,626 --> 00:16:46,612
All I would

593
00:16:46,612 --> 00:16:48,091
ask is that the council

594
00:16:48,091 --> 00:16:48,888
consider the

595
00:16:48,888 --> 00:16:50,215
possibility when

596
00:16:50,215 --> 00:16:51,581
formulating the budget

597
00:16:51,581 --> 00:16:52,908
for next year, I

598
00:16:52,908 --> 00:17:00,740
believe 2027. Um, so

599
00:17:00,740 --> 00:17:02,134
we leave this

600
00:17:02,134 --> 00:17:02,970
expense line as is and

601
00:17:02,970 --> 00:17:04,050
direct it,

602
00:17:04,050 --> 00:17:05,165
perhaps, to CIP for

603
00:17:05,165 --> 00:17:06,349
the replacement of the next

604
00:17:06,349 --> 00:17:07,708
vehicle

605
00:17:07,708 --> 00:17:15,311
. You know, I tried to stick to

606
00:17:15,343 --> 00:17:16,572
the plan to

607
00:17:16,572 --> 00:17:17,413
buy a new

608
00:17:17,413 --> 00:17:18,610
rescue vehicle,

609
00:17:18,610 --> 00:17:19,742
since it's the

610
00:17:19,742 --> 00:17:24,021
workhorse of that department.

611
00:17:24,021 --> 00:17:25,297
I began to realize that

612
00:17:25,297 --> 00:17:26,104
we probably wouldn't

613
00:17:26,104 --> 00:17:27,045
see a new

614
00:17:27,045 --> 00:17:28,153
car at that

615
00:17:28,153 --> 00:17:29,464
station for a while

616
00:17:29,464 --> 00:17:35,060
. I think the board of

617
00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:36,200
commissioners, um,

618
00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,440
all parties should

619
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,747
accept the fact that

620
00:17:38,747 --> 00:17:39,720
if we buy

621
00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:40,994
used

622
00:17:40,994 --> 00:17:43,374
vehicles, our maintenance costs

623
00:17:43,407 --> 00:17:44,380
will remain

624
00:17:44,380 --> 00:17:48,396
high. Because

625
00:17:48,396 --> 00:17:49,721
whoever owned them in the first place has

626
00:17:49,721 --> 00:17:50,571
already

627
00:17:50,571 --> 00:17:51,794
squeezed all the juice out of them

628
00:17:51,794 --> 00:17:56,239
. That's all I

629
00:17:56,239 --> 00:17:58,612
wanted to say.

630
00:17:58,612 --> 00:18:00,401
2.3 years—that's how long it

631
00:18:00,401 --> 00:18:02,194
will take to pay off.

632
00:18:02,194 --> 00:18:16,885
Here it is.

633
00:18:16,885 --> 00:18:18,262
This is East Rise.

634
00:18:18,262 --> 00:18:19,188
OK.

635
00:18:19,188 --> 00:18:23,094
Yes.

636
00:18:23,094 --> 00:18:24,456
And we have the money for it, don't we

637
00:18:24,456 --> 00:18:25,463
?

638
00:18:25,463 --> 00:18:26,379
This is included in the

639
00:18:26,379 --> 00:18:27,703
department's budget

640
00:18:27,703 --> 00:18:28,528
.

641
00:18:28,528 --> 00:18:30,810
This is

642
00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:31,726
the money we

643
00:18:31,726 --> 00:18:33,767
transferred to the city.

644
00:18:33,767 --> 00:18:36,848
Yes.

645
00:18:36,848 --> 00:18:37,941
pay it off.

646
00:18:37,941 --> 00:18:38,689
Yes.

647
00:18:38,689 --> 00:18:40,538
It doesn't seem right, does it

648
00:18:40,538 --> 00:18:41,366
?

649
00:18:41,366 --> 00:18:45,924
Yes.

650
00:18:45,924 --> 00:18:47,587
high interest rates.

651
00:18:47,587 --> 00:18:48,581
These are very high

652
00:18:48,581 --> 00:18:49,308
percentages.

653
00:18:49,308 --> 00:18:50,114
Yes.

654
00:18:50,114 --> 00:18:51,217
You won't see the

655
00:18:51,217 --> 00:18:52,412
check there. You won't see the

656
00:18:52,412 --> 00:18:53,570
check there. Sorry, I

657
00:18:53,570 --> 00:18:54,460
know you're

658
00:18:54,460 --> 00:18:55,303
looking for it. You won't

659
00:18:55,303 --> 00:18:56,390
see any checks there.

660
00:18:56,390 --> 00:18:57,526
It's going to be, um

661
00:18:57,526 --> 00:18:58,873
No, I'm just looking

662
00:18:58,873 --> 00:18:59,119
at

663
00:18:59,119 --> 00:18:59,703
Okay.

664
00:18:59,703 --> 00:19:01,048
Good. I didn't know if you were

665
00:19:01,048 --> 00:19:01,829
looking for checks.

666
00:19:01,829 --> 00:19:03,663
No, no, no. Sorry. No,

667
00:19:03,663 --> 00:19:04,739
I was just looking, no,

668
00:19:04,739 --> 00:19:05,503
I just wanted

669
00:19:05,503 --> 00:19:06,579
to see what the

670
00:19:06,579 --> 00:19:10,089
offer said, and

671
00:19:10,089 --> 00:19:11,201
Yes, and these are high

672
00:19:11,201 --> 00:19:11,954
percentages.

673
00:19:11,954 --> 00:19:13,364
Yes, they are tall.

674
00:19:13,364 --> 00:19:17,947
OK.

675
00:19:17,947 --> 00:19:18,688
This seems like a

676
00:19:18,688 --> 00:19:19,970
financially sound

677
00:19:19,970 --> 00:19:21,285
decision, given

678
00:19:21,285 --> 00:19:22,566
the high interest rates, the

679
00:19:22,566 --> 00:19:23,881
fact that Joe

680
00:19:23,881 --> 00:19:25,129
explained everything clearly today, and

681
00:19:25,129 --> 00:19:26,276
that the funds are available,

682
00:19:26,276 --> 00:19:27,523
have been transferred to the city, and are

683
00:19:27,523 --> 00:19:33,364
sufficient. In

684
00:19:33,364 --> 00:19:34,523
today's economy, it's

685
00:19:34,523 --> 00:19:35,649
worth saving on

686
00:19:35,649 --> 00:19:36,872
high interest

687
00:19:36,872 --> 00:19:37,774
rates when you

688
00:19:37,774 --> 00:19:41,618
can. I

689
00:19:41,618 --> 00:19:56,240
recommend this.

690
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,970
I am making a motion

691
00:19:57,970 --> 00:19:58,811
to pay off

692
00:19:58,811 --> 00:20:00,492
the debt owed on a

693
00:20:00,492 --> 00:20:02,470
2008 Pierce fire truck

694
00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:04,102
in the amount of

695
00:20:04,102 --> 00:20:06,031
$63,728.31 to

696
00:20:06,031 --> 00:20:08,980
Eastrise Credit Union. And also

697
00:20:08,980 --> 00:20:11,225
for a 2001 Pierce fire truck

698
00:20:11,225 --> 00:20:12,460
with a 100-foot

699
00:20:12,460 --> 00:20:14,706
platform in the

700
00:20:14,706 --> 00:20:18,524
amount of $84,833.74 to

701
00:20:18,580 --> 00:20:21,488
Eastrise Credit Union.

702
00:20:21,488 --> 00:20:23,864
I support. Everyone who is

703
00:20:23,864 --> 00:20:24,400
"in favor"?

704
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,637
By.

705
00:20:25,637 --> 00:20:28,043
Who is "against"? Thank you very much

706
00:20:28,043 --> 00:20:28,616
.

707
00:20:28,616 --> 00:20:36,984
Thanks, Joe.

708
00:20:36,984 --> 00:20:38,195
Let's move on to a review

709
00:20:38,195 --> 00:20:39,065
and discussion of

710
00:20:39,065 --> 00:20:40,184
the position of

711
00:20:40,184 --> 00:20:41,710
CFO.

712
00:20:41,710 --> 00:20:42,694
So, we had

713
00:20:42,694 --> 00:20:44,707
several candidates. Um

714
00:20:44,707 --> 00:20:45,856
, we did two

715
00:20:45,856 --> 00:20:47,831
interviews. We

716
00:20:47,831 --> 00:20:49,065
reached out to the other

717
00:20:49,065 --> 00:20:50,099
two of the

718
00:20:50,099 --> 00:20:51,929
top four. One

719
00:20:51,929 --> 00:20:52,839
has already accepted another

720
00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:55,061
offer. Um, and the

721
00:20:55,061 --> 00:20:56,256
other one didn't respond

722
00:20:56,256 --> 00:20:56,947
to follow-up

723
00:20:56,947 --> 00:20:58,142
emails or

724
00:20:58,142 --> 00:20:59,368
phone calls

725
00:20:59,368 --> 00:21:01,192
to the number on the resume.

726
00:21:01,192 --> 00:21:02,146
Um,

727
00:21:02,146 --> 00:21:03,898
no return calls. We

728
00:21:03,898 --> 00:21:05,145
recently received

729
00:21:05,145 --> 00:21:06,357
another resume, which is

730
00:21:06,357 --> 00:21:09,966
currently under review.

731
00:21:09,966 --> 00:21:10,693
Um, so my

732
00:21:10,693 --> 00:21:11,675
recommendation is

733
00:21:11,675 --> 00:21:13,021
probably to postpone

734
00:21:13,021 --> 00:21:14,701
it for another week.

735
00:21:14,701 --> 00:21:15,535
We'll see if

736
00:21:15,535 --> 00:21:16,711
additional resumes come in

737
00:21:16,711 --> 00:21:17,821
. It would be a good idea to

738
00:21:17,821 --> 00:21:18,827
interview

739
00:21:18,827 --> 00:21:19,780
at least three,

740
00:21:19,780 --> 00:21:20,626
if not four,

741
00:21:20,626 --> 00:21:21,581
people. And then

742
00:21:21,581 --> 00:21:22,546
make a better

743
00:21:22,546 --> 00:21:23,891
decision about what

744
00:21:23,891 --> 00:21:26,332
stage we are at. And what should

745
00:21:26,332 --> 00:21:28,873
we do next? So

746
00:21:28,873 --> 00:21:31,409
we won't, uh We didn't

747
00:21:31,409 --> 00:21:32,503
get the result we expected with all the

748
00:21:32,503 --> 00:21:33,215
resumes we

749
00:21:33,215 --> 00:21:34,774
received

750
00:21:34,802 --> 00:21:35,810
. So, I

751
00:21:35,810 --> 00:21:37,048
think we shouldn't

752
00:21:37,048 --> 00:21:38,460
rush. A little

753
00:21:38,460 --> 00:21:40,004
longer. This is my

754
00:21:40,004 --> 00:21:41,389
recommendation.

755
00:21:41,389 --> 00:21:44,160
Reasonably. So, some did

756
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,399
n't. Sorry, some didn't

757
00:21:45,399 --> 00:21:46,722
respond to

758
00:21:46,722 --> 00:21:48,207
One responded. I wasn't

759
00:21:48,207 --> 00:21:49,262
interested anymore. He

760
00:21:49,262 --> 00:21:50,688
found another job.

761
00:21:50,688 --> 00:21:51,660
Another didn't

762
00:21:51,660 --> 00:21:52,507
answer

763
00:21:52,507 --> 00:21:53,731
a call at all, leaving a

764
00:21:53,731 --> 00:21:54,923
voicemail, or an

765
00:21:54,923 --> 00:21:56,084
email

766
00:21:56,084 --> 00:21:57,088
asking if

767
00:21:57,088 --> 00:22:00,537
they were still interested. And

768
00:22:00,537 --> 00:22:01,909
we sent By the way, to

769
00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:03,211
those who were selected for an

770
00:22:03,211 --> 00:22:04,547
interview, we also

771
00:22:04,547 --> 00:22:05,708
sent a letter of

772
00:22:05,708 --> 00:22:07,045
congratulations: they say,

773
00:22:07,045 --> 00:22:08,312
congratulations, you passed the

774
00:22:08,312 --> 00:22:10,963
first stage. We

775
00:22:10,963 --> 00:22:12,165
will contact you

776
00:22:12,165 --> 00:22:13,126
to schedule an

777
00:22:13,126 --> 00:22:15,880
interview. So, three

778
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,368
tries—and, you know, we

779
00:22:17,368 --> 00:22:19,346
move on. We

780
00:22:19,346 --> 00:22:25,104
will not wait. So,

781
00:22:25,104 --> 00:22:26,224
here's the news.

782
00:22:26,224 --> 00:22:27,174
Is the vacancy still

783
00:22:27,174 --> 00:22:27,997
posted?

784
00:22:27,997 --> 00:22:29,601
We're

785
00:22:29,601 --> 00:22:31,059
actually going to

786
00:22:31,059 --> 00:22:32,189
update it this

787
00:22:32,189 --> 00:22:34,224
week. Let's give it a week,

788
00:22:34,224 --> 00:22:35,580
see what

789
00:22:35,580 --> 00:22:36,686
stage we're at, and then

790
00:22:36,686 --> 00:22:41,135
take a break. We'll add

791
00:22:41,135 --> 00:22:42,425
this to the agenda

792
00:22:42,425 --> 00:22:43,650
again when we have

793
00:22:43,650 --> 00:22:45,009
something new for you.

794
00:22:45,009 --> 00:22:46,732
Next steps.

795
00:22:46,732 --> 00:22:47,774
Thank you.

796
00:22:47,774 --> 00:22:51,203
So, So, that's it.

797
00:22:51,203 --> 00:22:52,636
Thank you. Do you have any

798
00:22:52,636 --> 00:22:53,242
questions?

799
00:22:53,242 --> 00:22:53,647
No.

800
00:22:53,647 --> 00:22:54,225
Good.

801
00:22:54,225 --> 00:22:55,167
Thank you for

802
00:22:55,167 --> 00:22:56,451
Would you like to go another

803
00:22:56,451 --> 00:22:57,611
way or what?

804
00:22:57,611 --> 00:23:00,113
But no, I think it's

805
00:23:01,564 --> 00:23:02,271
smart to wait and see what other candidates come up with.

806
00:23:02,271 --> 00:23:03,569
OK. Then let

807
00:23:03,569 --> 00:23:04,853
the fun begin

808
00:23:04,853 --> 00:23:04,986
.

809
00:23:04,986 --> 00:23:06,953
Mhm. E

810
00:23:06,953 --> 00:23:08,135
Solid waste.

811
00:23:08,135 --> 00:23:09,222
Schedule of upcoming

812
00:23:09,222 --> 00:23:10,275
board meetings and

813
00:23:10,275 --> 00:23:13,488
discussions/decisions.

814
00:23:13,488 --> 00:23:14,933
So, your packages

815
00:23:14,933 --> 00:23:16,342
have three schedules, for three

816
00:23:16,342 --> 00:23:17,454
months: October,

817
00:23:17,454 --> 00:23:22,218
November, and December.

818
00:23:22,218 --> 00:23:23,591
It lists meetings

819
00:23:23,591 --> 00:23:26,557
that have already been scheduled.

820
00:23:26,557 --> 00:23:27,785
Meetings that are not yet

821
00:23:27,785 --> 00:23:28,628
scheduled

822
00:23:28,628 --> 00:23:32,082
need to be added. So

823
00:23:32,082 --> 00:23:37,396
, we have a few, right? I would like to

824
00:23:37,428 --> 00:23:38,608
schedule interviews with the

825
00:23:38,608 --> 00:23:39,692
top three

826
00:23:39,692 --> 00:23:40,648
candidates for the

827
00:23:40,648 --> 00:23:44,738
board site. This is again

828
00:23:44,738 --> 00:23:45,948
if the

829
00:23:45,948 --> 00:23:50,108
council so desires. I would

830
00:23:50,108 --> 00:23:50,958
advise that we will not be

831
00:23:50,958 --> 00:23:51,447
able to

832
00:23:51,447 --> 00:23:52,329
coordinate

833
00:23:52,329 --> 00:23:53,309
all

834
00:23:53,309 --> 00:23:55,693
three one after the other.

835
00:23:55,693 --> 00:23:58,273
Of course.

836
00:23:58,273 --> 00:23:59,422
I assume it

837
00:23:59,422 --> 00:24:00,571
will be three separate

838
00:24:00,571 --> 00:24:01,928
meetings, probably 1

839
00:24:01,928 --> 00:24:02,973
hour each, so they

840
00:24:02,973 --> 00:24:04,296
can go online and

841
00:24:04,296 --> 00:24:05,480
present their

842
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,396
proposals to the council. I

843
00:24:09,396 --> 00:24:10,609
think we have three

844
00:24:10,609 --> 00:24:11,860
very interested,

845
00:24:11,860 --> 00:24:13,987
good companies. You've

846
00:24:13,987 --> 00:24:14,750
all seen

847
00:24:14,750 --> 00:24:16,009
the information and stuff

848
00:24:16,009 --> 00:24:16,720
, so Yes

849
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,123
.

850
00:24:18,123 --> 00:24:19,344
We need to choose

851
00:24:19,344 --> 00:24:20,598
dates and times, whether some

852
00:24:20,598 --> 00:24:21,787
, none, or all of

853
00:24:21,787 --> 00:24:22,678
you want to

854
00:24:22,678 --> 00:24:23,768
attend this

855
00:24:23,768 --> 00:24:24,758
presentation, and I will

856
00:24:24,758 --> 00:24:25,913
schedule those

857
00:24:25,913 --> 00:24:28,303
meetings immediately. So, this is

858
00:24:28,303 --> 00:24:31,923
one series of meetings.

859
00:24:31,923 --> 00:24:32,815
We need to

860
00:24:32,815 --> 00:24:34,191
set dates for

861
00:24:34,191 --> 00:24:35,641
something perhaps more

862
00:24:35,641 --> 00:24:36,906
important, namely

863
00:24:36,906 --> 00:24:38,170
budget meetings, with a

864
00:24:38,170 --> 00:24:39,546
tentative date of

865
00:24:39,546 --> 00:24:42,278
January 11. We need to

866
00:24:42,278 --> 00:24:44,093
hold a final

867
00:24:44,128 --> 00:24:45,498
budget approval meeting

868
00:24:45,498 --> 00:24:48,019
no later than January 11th.

869
00:24:48,019 --> 00:24:49,252
So the first meeting is

870
00:24:49,252 --> 00:24:50,418
already scheduled, and

871
00:24:50,418 --> 00:24:51,720
again, if you

872
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,851
want to wait and

873
00:24:52,851 --> 00:24:53,948
see how it

874
00:24:53,948 --> 00:24:54,839
goes, we don't

875
00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:55,593
have to

876
00:24:55,593 --> 00:24:56,690
set a schedule

877
00:24:56,690 --> 00:24:57,821
tonight,

878
00:24:57,821 --> 00:24:59,192
of course, but the sooner the

879
00:24:59,192 --> 00:25:01,500
better. This will be

880
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:04,827
October. We have little

881
00:25:04,827 --> 00:25:05,881
time, and we wanted to

882
00:25:05,881 --> 00:25:07,207
get a lot done

883
00:25:07,207 --> 00:25:09,373
before the start of the year. So

884
00:25:09,373 --> 00:25:10,318
this is the second series of

885
00:25:10,318 --> 00:25:11,509
meetings, right? This is

886
00:25:11,509 --> 00:25:12,529
the schedule for budget review and

887
00:25:12,529 --> 00:25:13,665
approval

888
00:25:13,665 --> 00:25:14,636
. Now I think the

889
00:25:14,636 --> 00:25:15,531
first meeting has already

890
00:25:15,531 --> 00:25:16,128
been scheduled,

891
00:25:16,128 --> 00:25:17,105
let's see how it

892
00:25:17,105 --> 00:25:18,278
goes. I broke everything down

893
00:25:18,278 --> 00:25:19,499
into parts, okay

894
00:25:19,499 --> 00:25:20,517
? We

895
00:25:20,517 --> 00:25:21,565
will cover most of it at the first

896
00:25:21,565 --> 00:25:22,619
meeting. A lot of

897
00:25:22,619 --> 00:25:23,870
this is pretty simple. The

898
00:25:23,870 --> 00:25:24,862
main issue of the

899
00:25:24,862 --> 00:25:27,051
first meeting will be the

900
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,310
road maintenance budget. Everything else is

901
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:29,366
councils, commissions, and

902
00:25:29,366 --> 00:25:30,737
city administration

903
00:25:30,737 --> 00:25:31,591
. We have already

904
00:25:31,591 --> 00:25:32,715
discussed the issue of

905
00:25:32,715 --> 00:25:33,812
salaries a little. So, we

906
00:25:33,812 --> 00:25:34,869
know what

907
00:25:34,869 --> 00:25:36,266
stage we are at.

908
00:25:36,266 --> 00:25:37,296
Everything is clear with this question

909
00:25:37,296 --> 00:25:38,391
. This

910
00:25:38,391 --> 00:25:39,481
shouldn't take

911
00:25:39,481 --> 00:25:41,424
long. And then,

912
00:25:41,424 --> 00:25:42,602
next will be...we'll

913
00:25:42,602 --> 00:25:43,486
probably

914
00:25:43,486 --> 00:25:44,664
look at the police

915
00:25:44,664 --> 00:25:47,896
and the fire department separately.

916
00:25:47,896 --> 00:25:48,803
But after that,

917
00:25:48,803 --> 00:25:49,930
there will be the fire

918
00:25:49,930 --> 00:25:50,963
service, the police, and

919
00:25:50,963 --> 00:25:51,840
then the

920
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,061
capital investment program

921
00:25:53,061 --> 00:25:54,188
, which will require a

922
00:25:54,188 --> 00:25:54,782
long

923
00:25:54,782 --> 00:25:57,434
discussion.

924
00:25:57,434 --> 00:25:57,837
Yes.

925
00:25:57,837 --> 00:25:59,539
OK. There are things that,

926
00:25:59,539 --> 00:26:00,765
depending on the course

927
00:26:00,765 --> 00:26:01,811
chosen by the council,

928
00:26:01,811 --> 00:26:03,218
will likely have to be

929
00:26:03,218 --> 00:26:04,480
cut, trimmed,

930
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,878
or postponed. I think we

931
00:26:06,878 --> 00:26:08,077
will have to make

932
00:26:08,077 --> 00:26:09,087
several, I won't say "

933
00:26:09,087 --> 00:26:09,939
tough", but

934
00:26:09,939 --> 00:26:11,139
difficult decisions to

935
00:26:11,139 --> 00:26:12,338
balance the budget

936
00:26:12,338 --> 00:26:13,884
and make it as

937
00:26:13,916 --> 00:26:14,706
stable as possible.

938
00:26:14,706 --> 00:26:15,107
Yes.

939
00:26:15,107 --> 00:26:16,354
And be sensible about

940
00:26:16,354 --> 00:26:17,483
it. You know, there are

941
00:26:17,483 --> 00:26:18,730
some other things we

942
00:26:18,730 --> 00:26:19,541
want to start

943
00:26:19,541 --> 00:26:20,789
planning a conversation about,

944
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:23,219
right? Regarding the office

945
00:26:23,219 --> 00:26:24,446
space and that

946
00:26:24,446 --> 00:26:26,968
property. So,

947
00:26:26,968 --> 00:26:27,732
Yes.

948
00:26:27,732 --> 00:26:30,168
All of this matters. Er

949
00:26:30,168 --> 00:26:34,957
...So, from a

950
00:26:34,957 --> 00:26:38,910
planning perspective, I'll give the

951
00:26:38,910 --> 00:26:40,062
floor to you. I don't know

952
00:26:40,062 --> 00:26:40,914
how much the council wants to

953
00:26:40,914 --> 00:26:41,585
discuss this

954
00:26:41,585 --> 00:26:42,489
tonight and

955
00:26:42,489 --> 00:26:43,419
decide, and how much

956
00:26:43,419 --> 00:26:44,374
we want to postpone

957
00:26:44,374 --> 00:26:44,888
until later.

958
00:26:44,888 --> 00:26:45,898
I have to go.

959
00:26:45,898 --> 00:26:47,019
Of course. Of course,

960
00:26:47,019 --> 00:26:47,898
you all have your own lives

961
00:26:47,898 --> 00:26:48,642
outside of this

962
00:26:48,642 --> 00:26:49,563
place. You'll probably

963
00:26:49,563 --> 00:26:50,518
want to look at

964
00:26:50,518 --> 00:26:51,401
some of your personal

965
00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:52,851
charts. And so on.

966
00:26:52,851 --> 00:26:53,392
So,

967
00:26:53,392 --> 00:26:53,853
I

968
00:26:53,853 --> 00:26:55,327
want to focus. I

969
00:26:55,327 --> 00:26:58,777
want one or two

970
00:26:58,777 --> 00:27:00,448
about Thursday.

971
00:27:00,448 --> 00:27:02,400
Yes.

972
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,983
week 4 degrees

973
00:27:05,983 --> 00:27:07,212
report today

974
00:27:07,212 --> 00:27:08,357
about Wednesday. I can

975
00:27:08,357 --> 00:27:09,683
send it out tomorrow.

976
00:27:09,683 --> 00:27:10,906
The meeting has been rescheduled and

977
00:27:10,906 --> 00:27:12,130
we are still within the

978
00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:13,332
24-hour deadline.

979
00:27:13,332 --> 00:27:14,675
If it's possible, we

980
00:27:14,675 --> 00:27:16,157
could. I would be very

981
00:27:16,157 --> 00:27:17,330
grateful. I have things coming up for

982
00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:18,228
Thursday evening

983
00:27:18,228 --> 00:27:19,480
that

984
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,735
I can't cancel.

985
00:27:20,735 --> 00:27:21,855
I have no problems,

986
00:27:21,855 --> 00:27:22,917
any option suits me

987
00:27:22,917 --> 00:27:24,221
. Wednesday

988
00:27:24,221 --> 00:27:27,688
or Friday.

989
00:27:27,688 --> 00:27:28,776
Wednesday suits me

990
00:27:28,776 --> 00:27:30,067
better than Friday.

991
00:27:30,067 --> 00:27:31,776
So it's Wednesday.

992
00:27:31,776 --> 00:27:32,644
So we can

993
00:27:32,644 --> 00:27:33,651
gather here on

994
00:27:33,651 --> 00:27:35,172
Wednesday. What, what

995
00:27:35,172 --> 00:27:36,533
time period will that

996
00:27:36,533 --> 00:27:36,965
be?

997
00:27:36,965 --> 00:27:38,302
You tell me. What

998
00:27:38,302 --> 00:27:39,141
suits you?

999
00:27:39,141 --> 00:27:41,273
I can on Wednesday at 6:00.

1000
00:27:41,273 --> 00:27:42,114
This is the postponement of the

1001
00:27:42,114 --> 00:27:43,075
first budget

1002
00:27:43,075 --> 00:27:44,066
meeting from Thursday

1003
00:27:44,066 --> 00:27:45,038
back to Wednesday.

1004
00:27:45,038 --> 00:27:46,152
is tomorrow.

1005
00:27:46,152 --> 00:27:47,175
This should be the third

1006
00:27:47,175 --> 00:27:48,070
Wednesday, as

1007
00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:49,785
originally announced.

1008
00:27:49,785 --> 00:27:56,708
after sunset 6:30

1009
00:27:56,708 --> 00:27:59,483
Yes. 7:00, is that better?

1010
00:27:59,483 --> 00:28:01,203
Can we just Oh.

1011
00:28:01,203 --> 00:28:02,441
But that's the only thing

1012
00:28:02,441 --> 00:28:04,632
we're talking about. It's not like

1013
00:28:04,732 --> 00:28:05,631
I know, but I

1014
00:28:05,631 --> 00:28:07,038
hate starting

1015
00:28:07,038 --> 00:28:07,960
meetings at 7:00.

1016
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,236
Yes.

1017
00:28:09,236 --> 00:28:10,495
Why can't you, why are you

1018
00:28:10,495 --> 00:28:14,488
here tonight?

1019
00:28:14,488 --> 00:28:17,228
Ahem.

1020
00:28:17,228 --> 00:28:19,170
7:00 is fine for me.

1021
00:28:19,170 --> 00:28:20,354
too, because it gives us

1022
00:28:20,354 --> 00:28:21,538
time for dinner and we

1023
00:28:21,538 --> 00:28:22,548
can still

1024
00:28:22,548 --> 00:28:26,046
stay. So

1025
00:28:26,046 --> 00:28:27,074
No, we will not

1026
00:28:27,074 --> 00:28:28,244
delay.

1027
00:28:28,244 --> 00:28:29,998
Who knows. But Wednesday is

1028
00:28:29,998 --> 00:28:31,188
definitely a good time for me,

1029
00:28:31,188 --> 00:28:32,348
and I'll be flexible with whatever

1030
00:28:32,348 --> 00:28:33,241
time

1031
00:28:33,241 --> 00:28:33,907
most people choose.

1032
00:28:33,907 --> 00:28:34,953
it. I just

1033
00:28:34,953 --> 00:28:37,490
need time. 7:00? 7:00?

1034
00:28:37,490 --> 00:28:39,842
Wednesday 7:00?

1035
00:28:39,842 --> 00:28:40,876
This is what I hear from

1036
00:28:40,876 --> 00:28:41,572
most people.

1037
00:28:41,572 --> 00:28:42,515
I, I am.

1038
00:28:42,515 --> 00:28:43,531
7:00?

1039
00:28:43,531 --> 00:28:44,118
Karl?

1040
00:28:44,118 --> 00:28:47,175
I might be here.

1041
00:28:47,175 --> 00:28:48,149
Physically, are we

1042
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:52,210
in agreement?

1043
00:28:52,210 --> 00:28:53,315
Good.

1044
00:28:53,315 --> 00:28:54,833
Um, it's a tough time of year

1045
00:28:54,833 --> 00:28:56,642
for me, that's all. This is

1046
00:28:56,642 --> 00:28:57,628
, oh my god.

1047
00:28:57,628 --> 00:28:59,292
Time to act.

1048
00:28:59,292 --> 00:29:00,773
The phone is breaking

1049
00:29:00,773 --> 00:29:01,215
, and

1050
00:29:01,215 --> 00:29:02,100
I know that, and my family

1051
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:02,717
can't

1052
00:29:02,717 --> 00:29:03,576
agree on what we're

1053
00:29:03,576 --> 00:29:04,408
doing, so I haven't

1054
00:29:04,408 --> 00:29:05,427
contacted you, and

1055
00:29:05,427 --> 00:29:06,366
I'm sure it's too

1056
00:29:06,366 --> 00:29:07,440
late, so I won't

1057
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,050
bother you.

1058
00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:09,145
Uh, I, you know, have

1059
00:29:09,145 --> 00:29:10,536
evenings and weekends.

1060
00:29:10,536 --> 00:29:11,457
Well, I would.

1061
00:29:11,457 --> 00:29:12,502
You can work

1062
00:29:12,502 --> 00:29:13,309
in the evenings, right?

1063
00:29:13,309 --> 00:29:14,049
We're going to

1064
00:29:14,049 --> 00:29:15,131
meet on Saturday,

1065
00:29:15,131 --> 00:29:15,915
so we can

1066
00:29:15,915 --> 00:29:16,791
It's not uncommon

1067
00:29:16,791 --> 00:29:17,979
to work in the evenings.

1068
00:29:17,979 --> 00:29:18,885
I understand that when it

1069
00:29:18,885 --> 00:29:19,985
comes to

1070
00:29:19,985 --> 00:29:21,280
family, it's not worth even

1071
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:21,801
thinking about.

1072
00:29:21,801 --> 00:29:22,490
Got it.

1073
00:29:22,490 --> 00:29:23,844
Stop thinking.

1074
00:29:23,844 --> 00:29:24,494
OK.

1075
00:29:24,494 --> 00:29:27,248
Wednesday evening.

1076
00:29:27,248 --> 00:29:28,289
Um, do we want to

1077
00:29:28,289 --> 00:29:29,439
schedule any

1078
00:29:29,439 --> 00:29:30,392
other meetings?

1079
00:29:30,392 --> 00:29:31,683
I would like to if we

1080
00:29:31,683 --> 00:29:33,906
can. Um, I'd like to

1081
00:29:33,906 --> 00:29:35,116
talk about

1082
00:29:35,116 --> 00:29:37,347
Monday the 12th. Because

1083
00:29:37,347 --> 00:29:39,193
now we have a

1084
00:29:39,224 --> 00:29:39,840
second

1085
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,258
public hearing scheduled for this day.

1086
00:29:42,258 --> 00:29:42,983
Should we

1087
00:29:42,983 --> 00:29:43,741
cancel these

1088
00:29:43,741 --> 00:29:46,651
public hearings?

1089
00:29:46,651 --> 00:29:47,404
Should we

1090
00:29:47,404 --> 00:29:48,420
schedule them as the

1091
00:29:48,420 --> 00:29:49,469
first public

1092
00:29:49,469 --> 00:29:51,812
hearings? But if we

1093
00:29:51,812 --> 00:29:52,668
do, we

1094
00:29:52,668 --> 00:29:53,708
need to have a

1095
00:29:53,708 --> 00:29:54,381
meeting between

1096
00:29:54,381 --> 00:29:55,513
today and

1097
00:29:55,513 --> 00:29:56,463
this date. What

1098
00:29:56,463 --> 00:29:57,551
decision will the

1099
00:29:57,551 --> 00:29:57,958
council make?

1100
00:29:57,958 --> 00:29:59,361
I suggest we postpone

1101
00:29:59,361 --> 00:30:01,625
this.

1102
00:30:01,625 --> 00:30:02,298
That is, if

1103
00:30:02,298 --> 00:30:03,548
the wording is incorrect

1104
00:30:03,548 --> 00:30:04,738
, what's the point?

1105
00:30:04,738 --> 00:30:05,445
Right.

1106
00:30:05,445 --> 00:30:06,924
Yes, it will be the same.

1107
00:30:06,924 --> 00:30:07,967
We need to do

1108
00:30:07,967 --> 00:30:09,011
it once and do it

1109
00:30:09,011 --> 00:30:09,814
right, whether it's

1110
00:30:09,814 --> 00:30:10,751
now, in six

1111
00:30:10,751 --> 00:30:11,735
months, or in a year.

1112
00:30:11,735 --> 00:30:12,664
We need to decide

1113
00:30:12,664 --> 00:30:13,618
what exactly we are proposing

1114
00:30:13,618 --> 00:30:14,229
before we

1115
00:30:14,229 --> 00:30:15,110
hold the next

1116
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:15,626
hearing.

1117
00:30:15,626 --> 00:30:16,314
Right.

1118
00:30:16,314 --> 00:30:17,391
I agree.

1119
00:30:17,391 --> 00:30:18,338
I don't want

1120
00:30:18,338 --> 00:30:19,387
to waste time on

1121
00:30:19,387 --> 00:30:20,030
fruitless

1122
00:30:20,030 --> 00:30:21,768
discussions again. We

1123
00:30:21,768 --> 00:30:22,924
need to prepare everything well

1124
00:30:22,924 --> 00:30:23,785
.

1125
00:30:23,785 --> 00:30:25,906
Put a rehearsal on the agenda

1126
00:30:25,936 --> 00:30:27,252
. Come on,

1127
00:30:27,252 --> 00:30:28,819
let's put it all together. So, let's

1128
00:30:28,919 --> 00:30:29,707
lay it out.

1129
00:30:29,707 --> 00:30:31,098
So let's put it off until the

1130
00:30:31,098 --> 00:30:31,491
12th.

1131
00:30:31,491 --> 00:30:32,446
Public hearings,

1132
00:30:32,446 --> 00:30:33,255
you have to hold a

1133
00:30:33,255 --> 00:30:34,237
regular meeting.

1134
00:30:34,237 --> 00:30:35,366
Right. I'm just

1135
00:30:35,366 --> 00:30:36,209
saying postpone the

1136
00:30:36,209 --> 00:30:38,343
public hearing.

1137
00:30:38,343 --> 00:30:43,358
My suggestion is to

1138
00:30:43,358 --> 00:30:44,483
hold a regular

1139
00:30:44,483 --> 00:30:45,211
meeting in

1140
00:30:45,211 --> 00:30:47,856
Riverton.

1141
00:30:47,856 --> 00:30:48,256
Yes.

1142
00:30:48,256 --> 00:30:49,750
This is a planned place.

1143
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:50,149
Yes.

1144
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:51,183
This is to

1145
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:52,466
update information

1146
00:30:52,466 --> 00:30:53,088
for them.

1147
00:30:53,088 --> 00:30:53,792
Yes.

1148
00:30:53,792 --> 00:30:54,855
Maybe we

1149
00:30:54,855 --> 00:30:56,048
could meet

1150
00:30:56,048 --> 00:30:57,180
next week.

1151
00:30:57,180 --> 00:30:59,068
At 6:00 p.m.

1152
00:30:59,068 --> 00:31:00,281
and

1153
00:31:00,281 --> 00:31:01,776
what it should look like

1154
00:31:01,776 --> 00:31:02,152
Yes.

1155
00:31:02,152 --> 00:31:02,992
At least we

1156
00:31:02,992 --> 00:31:04,168
have to discuss it. Yes.

1157
00:31:04,268 --> 00:31:04,981
and then I can

1158
00:31:04,981 --> 00:31:05,948
gather all the details.

1159
00:31:05,948 --> 00:31:06,317
Yes.

1160
00:31:06,317 --> 00:31:07,472
if it suits you

1161
00:31:07,472 --> 00:31:07,602
.

1162
00:31:07,602 --> 00:31:09,561
Yes.

1163
00:31:09,561 --> 00:31:10,659
Can you just

1164
00:31:10,659 --> 00:31:11,971
say that October 12th

1165
00:31:11,971 --> 00:31:13,170
will be in Riverton?

1166
00:31:13,170 --> 00:31:13,567
Yes.

1167
00:31:13,567 --> 00:31:14,282
Right.

1168
00:31:14,282 --> 00:31:14,798
Yes.

1169
00:31:14,798 --> 00:31:15,826
This is to

1170
00:31:15,826 --> 00:31:16,960
provide residents with

1171
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,166
the information we

1172
00:31:18,166 --> 00:31:20,277
promised them in June.

1173
00:31:20,277 --> 00:31:21,525
Um, we have some

1174
00:31:21,525 --> 00:31:22,940
updates, and others we do

1175
00:31:22,940 --> 00:31:25,237
n't yet. But we are doing our

1176
00:31:25,237 --> 00:31:26,159
best, we

1177
00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:27,247
promised to provide them with

1178
00:31:27,247 --> 00:31:28,202
an update, so we

1179
00:31:28,202 --> 00:31:29,487
feel it is necessary to

1180
00:31:29,487 --> 00:31:32,276
do so. And I don't

1181
00:31:32,276 --> 00:31:33,373
know if you saw

1182
00:31:33,373 --> 00:31:34,637
the meeting, uh, the meeting

1183
00:31:34,637 --> 00:31:35,933
last time, but we'll

1184
00:31:35,933 --> 00:31:36,731
also be

1185
00:31:36,731 --> 00:31:37,429
looking at

1186
00:31:37,429 --> 00:31:38,759
holding meetings

1187
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:40,055
in different locations around the city

1188
00:31:40,055 --> 00:31:42,832
. So not just Riverton

1189
00:31:42,832 --> 00:31:44,049
, but other locations, we will

1190
00:31:44,049 --> 00:31:45,298
be contacting the UVM branch

1191
00:31:45,298 --> 00:31:46,387
to see if

1192
00:31:46,387 --> 00:31:47,572
we can hold a

1193
00:31:47,572 --> 00:31:48,564
meeting on Barre-

1194
00:31:48,564 --> 00:31:49,850
Montpelier Road as well.

1195
00:31:49,850 --> 00:31:50,513
Good.

1196
00:31:50,513 --> 00:31:51,761
In your office? I

1197
00:31:51,761 --> 00:31:53,089
don't know if I can.

1198
00:31:53,089 --> 00:31:54,080
We still have a meeting that week on the

1199
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,125
15th, right

1200
00:31:55,125 --> 00:31:56,578
? Right.

1201
00:31:56,578 --> 00:31:57,272
Thank you.

1202
00:31:57,272 --> 00:31:58,455
I am grateful for that.

1203
00:31:58,455 --> 00:31:59,542
At that meeting, we

1204
00:31:59,542 --> 00:32:00,405
still have a

1205
00:32:00,405 --> 00:32:01,492
meeting on the 15th as well

1206
00:32:01,492 --> 00:32:02,373
. On the

1207
00:32:02,373 --> 00:32:03,473
15th?

1208
00:32:03,473 --> 00:32:04,774
Yes, this is a pre-election

1209
00:32:04,774 --> 00:32:05,388
meeting.

1210
00:32:05,388 --> 00:32:06,653
Oh, this is the Civil

1211
00:32:06,653 --> 00:32:07,165
Affairs Council.

1212
00:32:07,165 --> 00:32:08,260
This is the Civil

1213
00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:08,756
Affairs Council.

1214
00:32:08,756 --> 00:32:09,325
Yes.

1215
00:32:09,325 --> 00:32:10,048
True.

1216
00:32:10,048 --> 00:32:11,470
It's not...Well, it's...Well, it's

1217
00:32:11,470 --> 00:32:12,597
all together, yeah.

1218
00:32:12,597 --> 00:32:13,516
But not for

1219
00:32:13,516 --> 00:32:14,688
Well, well, I...That's good to

1220
00:32:14,688 --> 00:32:15,685
know. I'll put that on the

1221
00:32:15,685 --> 00:32:16,514
calendar when I put it together

1222
00:32:16,514 --> 00:32:17,490
so you're

1223
00:32:17,490 --> 00:32:18,032
right.

1224
00:32:18,032 --> 00:32:18,946
also had this as a

1225
00:32:18,946 --> 00:32:19,503
reference.

1226
00:32:19,503 --> 00:32:20,807
Mhm. This is great.

1227
00:32:20,807 --> 00:32:21,781
I'll just write "

1228
00:32:21,781 --> 00:32:22,783
Civil Affairs Council."

1229
00:32:22,783 --> 00:32:24,053
October 15?

1230
00:32:24,053 --> 00:32:25,500
And that too starts

1231
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:25,905
at 6:00.

1232
00:32:25,905 --> 00:32:27,778
p.m. OK.

1233
00:32:27,778 --> 00:32:28,611
Agreed.

1234
00:32:28,611 --> 00:32:29,407
So, I

1235
00:32:29,407 --> 00:32:30,480
thank you, Brian.

1236
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,256
Please. I have

1237
00:32:31,256 --> 00:32:32,289
a suggestion:

1238
00:32:32,289 --> 00:32:33,384
schedule a

1239
00:32:33,384 --> 00:32:34,478
budget meeting every

1240
00:32:34,478 --> 00:32:35,563
two weeks. If you don't

1241
00:32:35,563 --> 00:32:36,752
need it, you don't

1242
00:32:36,752 --> 00:32:38,321
need it. Maybe on

1243
00:32:38,321 --> 00:32:39,516
Wednesday, a week

1244
00:32:39,516 --> 00:32:40,856
when there are no meetings of

1245
00:32:40,856 --> 00:32:42,159
our elected council,

1246
00:32:42,159 --> 00:32:43,715
or on Thursday, or

1247
00:32:43,715 --> 00:32:44,780
We did one

1248
00:32:44,780 --> 00:32:45,505
first.

1249
00:32:45,505 --> 00:32:46,866
Maybe we'll start on the 21st

1250
00:32:46,866 --> 00:32:47,843
or 22nd, and then

1251
00:32:47,843 --> 00:32:49,204
hold them every

1252
00:32:49,204 --> 00:32:50,181
two weeks on a

1253
00:32:50,181 --> 00:32:51,444
schedule. Or we

1254
00:32:51,444 --> 00:32:52,524
keep it free

1255
00:32:52,524 --> 00:32:53,400
in case

1256
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,275
these

1257
00:32:54,275 --> 00:32:54,872
meetings are needed.

1258
00:32:54,872 --> 00:32:56,291
All of the above.

1259
00:32:56,291 --> 00:32:57,122
Until January.

1260
00:32:57,122 --> 00:32:59,928
Yes, I'll plan it. I'll

1261
00:32:59,928 --> 00:33:01,027
plan it.

1262
00:33:01,027 --> 00:33:02,049
Well, I mean

1263
00:33:02,049 --> 00:33:02,965
they can be on

1264
00:33:02,965 --> 00:33:03,853
our calendar

1265
00:33:03,853 --> 00:33:04,960
when we are free. We won't

1266
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,970
announce

1267
00:33:05,970 --> 00:33:07,037
them in advance,

1268
00:33:07,037 --> 00:33:07,794
well, until a week before the

1269
00:33:07,794 --> 00:33:08,764
meeting. So we

1270
00:33:08,764 --> 00:33:09,614
can always

1271
00:33:09,614 --> 00:33:10,888
cancel them if they are not

1272
00:33:10,888 --> 00:33:12,736
needed.

1273
00:33:12,736 --> 00:33:14,223
But you're holding...We'll

1274
00:33:14,223 --> 00:33:15,832
probably leave

1275
00:33:15,832 --> 00:33:16,576
at 7:00 too, right?

1276
00:33:16,576 --> 00:33:17,913
No, because it will get dark

1277
00:33:17,913 --> 00:33:18,736
earlier.

1278
00:33:18,736 --> 00:33:20,036
That doesn't mean I'm not

1279
00:33:20,036 --> 00:33:20,970
interested.

1280
00:33:20,970 --> 00:33:22,535
That's right. He works

1281
00:33:22,535 --> 00:33:23,314
in the light.

1282
00:33:23,314 --> 00:33:24,494
So working in the dark

1283
00:33:24,494 --> 00:33:25,838
is the next budget.

1284
00:33:25,838 --> 00:33:26,396
Well,

1285
00:33:26,396 --> 00:33:27,583
so the next

1286
00:33:27,583 --> 00:33:29,123
budget meeting is on

1287
00:33:29,123 --> 00:33:32,585
Thursday, October 22nd. Uh

1288
00:33:32,585 --> 00:33:34,348
, yes, or yes. If

1289
00:33:34,348 --> 00:33:35,307
you... If we want to

1290
00:33:35,307 --> 00:33:36,407
choose... I'm just saying

1291
00:33:36,407 --> 00:33:37,507
we choose evening

1292
00:33:37,507 --> 00:33:38,726
. I don't know which evening is

1293
00:33:38,726 --> 00:33:39,831
best for everyone.

1294
00:33:39,831 --> 00:33:40,588
It doesn't matter.

1295
00:33:40,588 --> 00:33:41,698
And then, perhaps,

1296
00:33:41,698 --> 00:33:42,659
alternate them.

1297
00:33:42,659 --> 00:33:43,801
I never work on

1298
00:33:43,801 --> 00:33:44,766
Sunday evenings.

1299
00:33:44,766 --> 00:33:46,569
Okay, I, well, I'm free

1300
00:33:46,569 --> 00:33:46,716
.

1301
00:33:46,716 --> 00:33:47,949
My idea is to have

1302
00:33:47,949 --> 00:33:49,213
them every week, starting

1303
00:33:49,213 --> 00:33:50,320
on the 21st, so we can

1304
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,522
split them up: on the first one

1305
00:33:51,522 --> 00:33:52,786
we'll look at roads,

1306
00:33:52,786 --> 00:33:53,640
and you mentioned

1307
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,557
fire service,

1308
00:33:54,557 --> 00:33:55,189
police, and

1309
00:33:55,189 --> 00:33:56,576
capital expenditures. I

1310
00:33:56,576 --> 00:33:58,436
think if we

1311
00:33:58,436 --> 00:33:59,679
Roads to...roads to

1312
00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:00,255
Wednesday. On the

1313
00:34:00,255 --> 00:34:02,618
30th, I know. I know.

1314
00:34:02,618 --> 00:34:03,947
So, it will be this

1315
00:34:03,947 --> 00:34:05,339
week, well, Wednesday.

1316
00:34:05,339 --> 00:34:06,220
Yes.

1317
00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:08,014
But if we start on

1318
00:34:08,014 --> 00:34:09,717
the 21st and look at

1319
00:34:09,717 --> 00:34:11,190
firefighters on the 21st,

1320
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:14,780
police on the 28th, and capital expenditures on November 4th,

1321
00:34:14,826 --> 00:34:16,679
then we can't

1322
00:34:16,718 --> 00:34:18,057
hold a meeting on the 4th.

1323
00:34:18,057 --> 00:34:19,531
November 4th?

1324
00:34:19,531 --> 00:34:20,715
It's election night,

1325
00:34:20,715 --> 00:34:21,483
I think. Uh

1326
00:34:21,483 --> 00:34:22,357
, yes.

1327
00:34:22,357 --> 00:34:24,046
November? Yes, I think so

1328
00:34:24,046 --> 00:34:24,696
. Uh

1329
00:34:24,696 --> 00:34:27,351
, third? Third. That would be

1330
00:34:27,451 --> 00:34:28,643
Tuesday the 3rd.

1331
00:34:28,643 --> 00:34:29,321
Sorry.

1332
00:34:29,321 --> 00:34:30,018
Right.

1333
00:34:30,018 --> 00:34:30,715
Sorry.

1334
00:34:30,715 --> 00:34:31,165
No,

1335
00:34:31,165 --> 00:34:32,441
on your calendar.

1336
00:34:32,441 --> 00:34:38,273
This is an election. It's up to you.

1337
00:34:38,273 --> 00:34:39,155
Regarding our

1338
00:34:39,155 --> 00:34:39,760
Wednesday nights, do we

1339
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,290
propose

1340
00:34:40,290 --> 00:34:41,298
meeting weekly

1341
00:34:41,298 --> 00:34:42,055
instead of every

1342
00:34:42,055 --> 00:34:42,811
other week?

1343
00:34:42,811 --> 00:34:44,206
I suggested every week.

1344
00:34:44,206 --> 00:34:45,115
Uh, we could have

1345
00:34:45,115 --> 00:34:46,409
meetings on the 21st

1346
00:34:46,409 --> 00:34:47,783
and the 28th. Consider

1347
00:34:47,783 --> 00:34:48,703
firefighters on the 21st,

1348
00:34:48,703 --> 00:34:49,868
police on the 28th, and then

1349
00:34:49,868 --> 00:34:50,911
skip 2 weeks

1350
00:34:50,911 --> 00:34:52,138
due to election night and the

1351
00:34:52,138 --> 00:34:53,180
busy first

1352
00:34:53,180 --> 00:34:54,346
week of November, and

1353
00:34:54,346 --> 00:34:55,481
move on to the 11th for

1354
00:34:55,481 --> 00:34:56,677
capital expenditures

1355
00:34:56,677 --> 00:34:58,871
. But at least, you

1356
00:34:58,871 --> 00:35:03,520
know, it would allow us

1357
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,293
to start the

1358
00:35:04,293 --> 00:35:05,595
discussion sooner rather

1359
00:35:05,595 --> 00:35:06,896
than later, and it would be less

1360
00:35:06,896 --> 00:35:08,233
likely that

1361
00:35:08,233 --> 00:35:09,429
things would drag on, and it would be

1362
00:35:09,429 --> 00:35:10,660
better to make

1363
00:35:10,660 --> 00:35:11,820
our deadline of

1364
00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:12,489
January 11th than to

1365
00:35:12,489 --> 00:35:13,755
meet in a

1366
00:35:13,755 --> 00:35:17,288
week.

1367
00:35:17,288 --> 00:35:18,716
I agree to that. I

1368
00:35:18,716 --> 00:35:19,565
mean, December could

1369
00:35:19,565 --> 00:35:20,436
be...It would be great

1370
00:35:20,436 --> 00:35:21,285
if we could make it in

1371
00:35:21,285 --> 00:35:22,303
November. We do

1372
00:35:22,303 --> 00:35:22,874
n't have it. That's

1373
00:35:22,874 --> 00:35:26,940
right.

1374
00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:28,390
So, my thought is, do

1375
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:30,054
we want to meet on the

1376
00:35:30,054 --> 00:35:31,633
21st, 28th, 4th, and 18th,

1377
00:35:31,633 --> 00:35:32,487
just to

1378
00:35:32,487 --> 00:35:33,895
reserve it

1379
00:35:33,895 --> 00:35:35,559
in case we need a

1380
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:37,137
full review of the entire

1381
00:35:37,137 --> 00:35:41,031
budget?

1382
00:35:41,031 --> 00:35:43,345
That's right. Stop, stop. What

1383
00:35:43,345 --> 00:35:45,971
So, the 21st, the 28th and the 4th.

1384
00:35:45,971 --> 00:35:46,711
So, let's say:

1385
00:35:46,711 --> 00:35:47,736
police, firefighters,

1386
00:35:47,736 --> 00:35:48,862
capital expenditures.

1387
00:35:48,862 --> 00:35:49,732
I'll just say it: a

1388
00:35:49,732 --> 00:35:50,828
budget meeting.

1389
00:35:50,828 --> 00:35:52,238
Right. And then on the 18th,

1390
00:35:52,238 --> 00:35:53,648
do a full

1391
00:35:53,648 --> 00:35:54,218
inspection. The

1392
00:35:54,218 --> 00:35:56,970
21st, the 28th, and the 4th?

1393
00:35:56,970 --> 00:35:58,396
Do we want the 4th or the 11th,

1394
00:35:58,396 --> 00:35:59,710
since we'll all

1395
00:35:59,710 --> 00:36:01,212
be here on Tuesday

1396
00:36:01,212 --> 00:36:02,437
night?

1397
00:36:02,437 --> 00:36:04,130
Election night—3rd. I do

1398
00:36:04,130 --> 00:36:05,553
n't mind. I'm

1399
00:36:05,553 --> 00:36:08,028
fine with that.

1400
00:36:08,028 --> 00:36:09,490
I...I mean, it's

1401
00:36:09,490 --> 00:36:10,776
not like I have a

1402
00:36:10,776 --> 00:36:11,940
personal life.

1403
00:36:11,940 --> 00:36:13,287
Although I think I might

1404
00:36:13,287 --> 00:36:14,455
be away. I

1405
00:36:14,455 --> 00:36:15,392
may be away

1406
00:36:15,392 --> 00:36:16,405
next week, but

1407
00:36:16,405 --> 00:36:17,648
that's okay. Uh,

1408
00:36:17,648 --> 00:36:18,825
let's do the 4th.

1409
00:36:18,825 --> 00:36:19,839
Yes, I just realized

1410
00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:20,904
that this looks like my

1411
00:36:20,904 --> 00:36:22,503
Good. Let it be the 4th.

1412
00:36:22,503 --> 00:36:23,783
But the 11th one is missing.

1413
00:36:23,783 --> 00:36:25,068
Budget meeting on the 4th.

1414
00:36:25,068 --> 00:36:25,761
What is our...What is

1415
00:36:25,761 --> 00:36:26,427
Tuesday's

1416
00:36:26,427 --> 00:36:27,598
Yes. What...What is our

1417
00:36:27,598 --> 00:36:28,358
start time?

1418
00:36:28,358 --> 00:36:29,615
6:00 PM when we get

1419
00:36:29,615 --> 00:36:30,519
to that time. The

1420
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:32,618
4th starts at 6:00 p.m.

1421
00:36:32,618 --> 00:36:34,484
Yes. And before that, it was

1422
00:36:34,484 --> 00:36:36,147
7:00 PM in October.

1423
00:36:36,147 --> 00:36:38,399
I'll put up the 21st at 7pm

1424
00:36:38,399 --> 00:36:42,338
and then the 28th on the website.

1425
00:36:42,338 --> 00:36:43,245
Thank you.

1426
00:36:43,245 --> 00:36:44,244
It's called

1427
00:36:44,244 --> 00:36:45,559
compromise, I guess.

1428
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:46,649
Okay, so

1429
00:36:46,649 --> 00:36:48,089
I'll do everything I can

1430
00:36:48,089 --> 00:36:49,175
. I will do everything I

1431
00:36:49,175 --> 00:36:49,636
can.

1432
00:36:49,636 --> 00:36:50,518
Will this meeting be

1433
00:36:50,518 --> 00:36:51,060
recorded?

1434
00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:51,581
They will be

1435
00:36:51,581 --> 00:36:52,180
public.

1436
00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:52,710
Yes, these will be

1437
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:54,474
public meetings.

1438
00:36:54,474 --> 00:36:55,123
Yes, they will be

1439
00:36:55,123 --> 00:36:55,678
public.

1440
00:36:55,678 --> 00:36:56,418
I understand that these are

1441
00:36:56,418 --> 00:36:57,479
public meetings. I'm

1442
00:36:57,479 --> 00:36:58,624
just curious, is this

1443
00:36:58,624 --> 00:36:59,520
...is this more than

1444
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,780
usual, right? So, is the

1445
00:37:00,780 --> 00:37:02,347
4th hour free?

1446
00:37:02,347 --> 00:37:02,735
Yes.

1447
00:37:02,735 --> 00:37:04,121
And they will be invited. They

1448
00:37:04,121 --> 00:37:05,022
will be invited.

1449
00:37:05,022 --> 00:37:06,895
Thank you.

1450
00:37:06,895 --> 00:37:07,668
And then

1451
00:37:07,668 --> 00:37:08,969
What is the 4th number when

1452
00:37:08,969 --> 00:37:10,167
we work another

1453
00:37:10,167 --> 00:37:10,507
day? The

1454
00:37:10,507 --> 00:37:12,272
18th is a full

1455
00:37:12,272 --> 00:37:13,450
budget review.

1456
00:37:13,450 --> 00:37:14,466
Are we okay? I

1457
00:37:14,466 --> 00:37:15,717
was going to Okay, yeah,

1458
00:37:15,717 --> 00:37:16,358
that's good. We

1459
00:37:16,358 --> 00:37:17,222
may have to

1460
00:37:17,222 --> 00:37:18,133
hold another one, but

1461
00:37:18,133 --> 00:37:19,074
that's because the next one is... Are

1462
00:37:19,074 --> 00:37:19,976
you sure we'll

1463
00:37:19,976 --> 00:37:21,070
be ready by

1464
00:37:21,070 --> 00:37:21,417
then?

1465
00:37:21,417 --> 00:37:22,703
Well, even if not, we

1466
00:37:22,703 --> 00:37:23,791
can skip to

1467
00:37:23,791 --> 00:37:24,823
December, but

1468
00:37:24,823 --> 00:37:25,182
AND it's

1469
00:37:25,182 --> 00:37:26,423
right before

1470
00:37:26,423 --> 00:37:26,972
Thanksgiving.

1471
00:37:26,972 --> 00:37:27,617
And unless we

1472
00:37:27,617 --> 00:37:28,613
use the 18th

1473
00:37:28,613 --> 00:37:29,698
to consider something

1474
00:37:29,698 --> 00:37:30,285
else, like

1475
00:37:30,285 --> 00:37:31,457
capital investments

1476
00:37:31,457 --> 00:37:33,422
or something like that, then we

1477
00:37:33,451 --> 00:37:34,898
can only do something new in December.

1478
00:37:34,898 --> 00:37:36,112
Let's set it

1479
00:37:36,112 --> 00:37:37,394
for the 17th at 7:00, if everyone

1480
00:37:37,394 --> 00:37:38,642
agrees, simply because

1481
00:37:38,642 --> 00:37:39,857
it will be the final

1482
00:37:39,857 --> 00:37:41,037
assembly and will probably

1483
00:37:41,037 --> 00:37:42,251
take longer. Do

1484
00:37:42,251 --> 00:37:43,963
you mean the 18th

1485
00:37:43,963 --> 00:37:44,107
?

1486
00:37:44,107 --> 00:37:46,424
What? The 18th. Did I say a different

1487
00:37:46,424 --> 00:37:47,499
date? I meant Sorry

1488
00:37:47,499 --> 00:37:48,530
. I meant the

1489
00:37:48,530 --> 00:37:49,889
18th. Thank you. Do

1490
00:37:49,889 --> 00:37:51,486
we start at 6:00 or

1491
00:37:51,486 --> 00:37:52,793
7:00 on the 18th? At 7:00.

1492
00:37:52,793 --> 00:37:53,947
Why don't we start at

1493
00:37:53,947 --> 00:37:54,740
7:00 on the 18th?

1494
00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:56,126
6:00 6:00

1495
00:37:56,126 --> 00:37:56,894
just because I

1496
00:37:56,894 --> 00:37:57,787
think this is going to take

1497
00:37:57,787 --> 00:37:58,754
longer and we need a

1498
00:37:58,754 --> 00:37:59,945
break. Well, but we

1499
00:37:59,945 --> 00:38:01,133
still have We are not limited in

1500
00:38:01,133 --> 00:38:02,318
time. We still have I

1501
00:38:02,318 --> 00:38:03,322
mean, we still have

1502
00:38:03,322 --> 00:38:04,182
December, so it doesn't

1503
00:38:04,182 --> 00:38:04,814
have to

1504
00:38:04,814 --> 00:38:05,732
end that

1505
00:38:05,732 --> 00:38:06,205
night.

1506
00:38:06,205 --> 00:38:07,449
No, I just wanted to

1507
00:38:07,449 --> 00:38:08,520
outline it for

1508
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,407
now.

1509
00:38:09,407 --> 00:38:10,270
No, no.

1510
00:38:10,270 --> 00:38:11,530
We call it a full

1511
00:38:11,530 --> 00:38:12,859
budget review, but

1512
00:38:12,859 --> 00:38:13,642
we may

1513
00:38:13,642 --> 00:38:14,426
need an

1514
00:38:14,426 --> 00:38:15,686
extra day for

1515
00:38:15,686 --> 00:38:16,882
CIP. I mean, there's a

1516
00:38:16,882 --> 00:38:18,055
lot of Yes, in

1517
00:38:18,055 --> 00:38:19,441
this CIP we need to

1518
00:38:19,441 --> 00:38:20,173
go through.

1519
00:38:20,173 --> 00:38:20,849
Just as a

1520
00:38:20,849 --> 00:38:22,785
reminder.

1521
00:38:22,785 --> 00:38:23,823
We have a personnel

1522
00:38:23,823 --> 00:38:26,434
policy. Let's

1523
00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:27,398
review the

1524
00:38:27,398 --> 00:38:28,570
addition we

1525
00:38:28,570 --> 00:38:29,930
made.

1526
00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:30,509
Uh,

1527
00:38:30,509 --> 00:38:31,662
which we haven't read yet

1528
00:38:31,662 --> 00:38:32,559
because I haven't received

1529
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:33,809
any feedback on

1530
00:38:33,809 --> 00:38:35,211
it. Uh, and then it's

1531
00:38:35,211 --> 00:38:37,449
ready for signing. We have a

1532
00:38:38,207 --> 00:38:39,163
traffic ordinance coming up, for which

1533
00:38:39,163 --> 00:38:40,175
we also have to

1534
00:38:40,175 --> 00:38:40,849
hold two

1535
00:38:40,849 --> 00:38:42,080
public hearings.

1536
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,831
Uh, finish this.

1537
00:38:43,831 --> 00:38:46,264
is the 26th. You have the first one.

1538
00:38:46,264 --> 00:38:47,383
Yes. But this is during a

1539
00:38:47,383 --> 00:38:48,025
regular

1540
00:38:48,025 --> 00:38:49,186
board meeting.

1541
00:38:49,186 --> 00:38:50,248
Right. So,

1542
00:38:50,248 --> 00:38:51,356
again, my

1543
00:38:51,356 --> 00:38:52,714
question is: you know, I

1544
00:38:52,714 --> 00:38:54,072
know you don't want

1545
00:38:54,072 --> 00:38:55,502
more meetings, but

1546
00:38:55,502 --> 00:38:56,502
do we want to

1547
00:38:56,502 --> 00:38:58,207
split them up? Uh,

1548
00:38:58,207 --> 00:39:00,672
make meetings

1549
00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:02,175
shorter? Maybe, I

1550
00:39:02,175 --> 00:39:02,821
don't know.

1551
00:39:02,821 --> 00:39:03,516
I think you should

1552
00:39:03,516 --> 00:39:04,305
add public

1553
00:39:04,305 --> 00:39:04,815
hearings to the

1554
00:39:04,815 --> 00:39:05,743
regular

1555
00:39:05,743 --> 00:39:06,052
council meeting.

1556
00:39:06,052 --> 00:39:07,308
Good. Good. I

1557
00:39:07,308 --> 00:39:08,404
will continue this. I'll

1558
00:39:08,404 --> 00:39:13,641
continue with this then. This is in

1559
00:39:13,641 --> 00:39:14,963
I will be on I will be Yes,

1560
00:39:14,963 --> 00:39:16,178
let's arrange a

1561
00:39:16,178 --> 00:39:18,073
night shift. I will

1562
00:39:18,073 --> 00:39:19,957
slow down. I

1563
00:39:19,957 --> 00:39:20,840
will slow down with

1564
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,164
updating the resolutions,

1565
00:39:22,164 --> 00:39:24,045
maybe until winter.

1566
00:39:24,045 --> 00:39:24,449
Yes.

1567
00:39:24,449 --> 00:39:25,904
Right. And then we

1568
00:39:25,904 --> 00:39:26,785
will talk about

1569
00:39:26,785 --> 00:39:27,918
additional meetings

1570
00:39:27,918 --> 00:39:28,522
regarding

1571
00:39:28,522 --> 00:39:29,894
those resolutions. Let's

1572
00:39:29,894 --> 00:39:30,619
finish with

1573
00:39:30,619 --> 00:39:33,879
budgets.

1574
00:39:33,879 --> 00:39:35,230
This is where we are now, and

1575
00:39:35,230 --> 00:39:36,507
after that—so,

1576
00:39:36,507 --> 00:39:40,580
okay. Hmm, what did I

1577
00:39:40,580 --> 00:39:41,571
miss?

1578
00:39:41,571 --> 00:39:42,545
So,

1579
00:39:42,545 --> 00:39:43,912
you said something else.

1580
00:39:43,912 --> 00:39:45,259
Sorry. You said

1581
00:39:45,259 --> 00:39:45,999
...there was another

1582
00:39:45,999 --> 00:39:46,996
meeting that you

1583
00:39:46,996 --> 00:39:47,637
mentioned.

1584
00:39:47,637 --> 00:39:49,366
Well, there is...What did I say? Oh,

1585
00:39:49,366 --> 00:39:51,455
three meetings for

1586
00:39:51,491 --> 00:39:52,613
website interviews.

1587
00:39:52,613 --> 00:39:53,664
Yes. Do

1588
00:39:53,664 --> 00:39:54,243
we want

1589
00:39:54,243 --> 00:39:55,144
to schedule them

1590
00:39:55,144 --> 00:39:58,228
tonight?

1591
00:39:58,228 --> 00:39:59,541
I would like that. I would like to

1592
00:39:59,541 --> 00:40:00,819
participate

1593
00:40:00,819 --> 00:40:02,097
, and have you thought about day

1594
00:40:02,097 --> 00:40:03,750
or evening?

1595
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:04,919
At the discretion of the council. I

1596
00:40:04,919 --> 00:40:06,047
warned all three

1597
00:40:06,047 --> 00:40:07,118
that it would likely be an

1598
00:40:07,118 --> 00:40:07,992
evening meeting,

1599
00:40:07,992 --> 00:40:09,119
as I expected

1600
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:10,021
most of the

1601
00:40:10,021 --> 00:40:10,754
board members would want

1602
00:40:10,754 --> 00:40:12,027
to join. There is

1603
00:40:12,027 --> 00:40:14,286
great interest in this. Um,

1604
00:40:14,286 --> 00:40:15,878
but yeah, I...I work

1605
00:40:15,878 --> 00:40:25,857
at the will of the council, so.

1606
00:40:25,857 --> 00:40:26,572
They

1607
00:40:26,572 --> 00:40:27,704
will probably last about an

1608
00:40:27,704 --> 00:40:28,569
hour for this

1609
00:40:28,569 --> 00:40:29,176
meeting.

1610
00:40:29,176 --> 00:40:30,267
I estimate it's

1611
00:40:30,267 --> 00:40:31,712
probably an hour. I'll

1612
00:40:31,712 --> 00:40:32,777
probably schedule an

1613
00:40:32,777 --> 00:40:34,083
hour and a half in Teams,

1614
00:40:34,083 --> 00:40:34,390
but will

1615
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:35,499
you put it before

1616
00:40:35,499 --> 00:40:36,331
our regular

1617
00:40:36,331 --> 00:40:37,330
board meeting like

1618
00:40:37,330 --> 00:40:39,642
we did today?

1619
00:40:39,642 --> 00:40:40,804
This is more on your

1620
00:40:40,804 --> 00:40:41,996
part.

1621
00:40:41,996 --> 00:40:42,927
I don't want to

1622
00:40:42,927 --> 00:40:43,892
do that because this isn't

1623
00:40:43,892 --> 00:40:44,890
exactly a public

1624
00:40:44,890 --> 00:40:46,481
meeting. The other two

1625
00:40:46,481 --> 00:40:47,494
companies could

1626
00:40:47,494 --> 00:40:48,347
join.

1627
00:40:48,347 --> 00:40:49,239
Okay, yes.

1628
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,157
I would like to see

1629
00:40:50,157 --> 00:40:51,229
more, you know, for the

1630
00:40:51,229 --> 00:40:52,034
presentation.

1631
00:40:52,034 --> 00:40:54,217
Special meeting.

1632
00:40:54,217 --> 00:40:54,824
Can this be done

1633
00:40:54,824 --> 00:40:55,230
in a closed

1634
00:40:55,230 --> 00:40:55,651
session?

1635
00:40:55,651 --> 00:40:56,400
We could hold a

1636
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:56,813
closed session.

1637
00:40:56,813 --> 00:40:57,603
No, no, no, but I don't

1638
00:40:57,603 --> 00:40:58,082
know how it

1639
00:40:58,082 --> 00:40:58,782
happens.

1640
00:40:58,782 --> 00:41:00,056
Well, we can't have a

1641
00:41:00,076 --> 00:41:00,844
full meeting unless it's

1642
00:41:00,844 --> 00:41:01,592
announced. It

1643
00:41:01,592 --> 00:41:02,882
will be announced.

1644
00:41:02,882 --> 00:41:03,896
Well, yes, but you can't

1645
00:41:03,896 --> 00:41:05,023
not invite people

1646
00:41:05,023 --> 00:41:05,896
if it's a public

1647
00:41:05,896 --> 00:41:07,296
meeting. You don't...you don't

1648
00:41:07,296 --> 00:41:08,113
We...we'll have to...

1649
00:41:08,113 --> 00:41:08,931
we'll have to...we'll have to

1650
00:41:08,931 --> 00:41:09,727
go

1651
00:41:09,727 --> 00:41:10,257
into closed

1652
00:41:10,257 --> 00:41:10,986
session, like you

1653
00:41:10,986 --> 00:41:11,374
said.

1654
00:41:11,374 --> 00:41:11,742
Yes.

1655
00:41:11,742 --> 00:41:13,152
For this, so I think

1656
00:41:13,152 --> 00:41:13,939
we could.

1657
00:41:13,939 --> 00:41:14,651
So, we could

1658
00:41:14,651 --> 00:41:15,437
hold a closed

1659
00:41:15,437 --> 00:41:16,248
session during the

1660
00:41:16,248 --> 00:41:17,132
regular session if you

1661
00:41:17,132 --> 00:41:17,552
want.

1662
00:41:17,552 --> 00:41:18,447
Start with a closed

1663
00:41:18,447 --> 00:41:19,343
session and move on

1664
00:41:19,343 --> 00:41:19,924
to a regular

1665
00:41:19,924 --> 00:41:21,423
meeting? That's what

1666
00:41:21,423 --> 00:41:22,195
I'm just wondering if

1667
00:41:22,195 --> 00:41:23,109
we could do

1668
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:23,912
interviews with them.

1669
00:41:23,912 --> 00:41:24,752
Conduct interviews with them

1670
00:41:24,752 --> 00:41:25,461
.

1671
00:41:25,461 --> 00:41:25,853
Yes.

1672
00:41:25,853 --> 00:41:27,121
Recommendation—before

1673
00:41:27,121 --> 00:41:27,956
each of these

1674
00:41:27,956 --> 00:41:31,467
budget meetings. An

1675
00:41:31,467 --> 00:41:34,848
hour before.

1676
00:41:34,848 --> 00:41:36,032
Stand still.

1677
00:41:36,032 --> 00:41:37,345
I wouldn't recommend

1678
00:41:37,345 --> 00:41:40,272
it. But I was looking at a

1679
00:41:40,272 --> 00:41:41,368
week in October,

1680
00:41:41,368 --> 00:41:42,601
actually the following

1681
00:41:42,601 --> 00:41:43,833
week, you know.

1682
00:41:43,833 --> 00:41:45,142
That's what we're going for.

1683
00:41:45,142 --> 00:41:47,820
week. Yes. I was thinking of

1684
00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:48,973
just doing them,

1685
00:41:48,973 --> 00:41:50,222
even if it meant

1686
00:41:50,222 --> 00:41:51,119
doing more than

1687
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:52,273
one presentation

1688
00:41:52,273 --> 00:41:53,554
per evening or all three in

1689
00:41:53,554 --> 00:41:54,291
one evening with

1690
00:41:54,291 --> 00:41:57,022
intervals. Um, or one every

1691
00:41:57,022 --> 00:41:58,695
night.

1692
00:41:58,695 --> 00:41:59,961
But I think this would be a

1693
00:41:59,961 --> 00:42:01,131
good week to have

1694
00:42:01,131 --> 00:42:01,943
them and get the

1695
00:42:01,943 --> 00:42:03,124
process started.

1696
00:42:03,124 --> 00:42:04,043
I don't...I'll try to

1697
00:42:04,043 --> 00:42:05,027
schedule all

1698
00:42:05,027 --> 00:42:06,391
three on the same day. It won't be

1699
00:42:06,391 --> 00:42:07,391
easy, but

1700
00:42:07,391 --> 00:42:08,480
we'll see how

1701
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,510
badly they want to

1702
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:10,641
get this job.

1703
00:42:10,641 --> 00:42:12,063
What is the approximate time of

1704
00:42:12,063 --> 00:42:13,476
each presentation?

1705
00:42:13,476 --> 00:42:13,864
You...

1706
00:42:13,864 --> 00:42:14,776
I'll say they'll

1707
00:42:14,776 --> 00:42:15,719
probably take

1708
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:16,793
at least an hour.

1709
00:42:16,793 --> 00:42:18,065
I was thinking about an hour.

1710
00:42:18,065 --> 00:42:19,833
Well, you know what? I'll tell

1711
00:42:19,833 --> 00:42:21,672
them they have an hour.

1712
00:42:21,672 --> 00:42:23,222
And not a minute more.

1713
00:42:23,222 --> 00:42:24,716
Yes, that's all.

1714
00:42:24,716 --> 00:42:26,473
So, if we do

1715
00:42:26,473 --> 00:42:27,780
this on Wednesday the 7th,

1716
00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:34,106
starting at 5:00 p.m.

1717
00:42:34,106 --> 00:42:35,430
I'll bring the pizza.

1718
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:37,091
Starting at 5:00 PM on

1719
00:42:37,091 --> 00:42:38,400
our website.

1720
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,599
Don't forget about it.

1721
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:42,379
I'll bring the pizza.

1722
00:42:42,379 --> 00:42:43,404
Presentations.

1723
00:42:43,404 --> 00:42:44,464
It's like a

1724
00:42:44,464 --> 00:42:45,254
steak dinner.

1725
00:42:45,254 --> 00:42:46,537
Do you think it will take an

1726
00:42:46,537 --> 00:42:47,114
hour?

1727
00:42:47,114 --> 00:42:48,425
I think it will take

1728
00:42:48,425 --> 00:42:50,084
three. I think a couple of them

1729
00:42:50,084 --> 00:42:53,955
will take...

1730
00:42:53,955 --> 00:42:55,960
So you're saying 6:00 PM?

1731
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,109
That's what you said.

1732
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:58,176
We agreed to start

1733
00:42:58,176 --> 00:42:58,523
at 5:00 PM.

1734
00:42:58,523 --> 00:42:59,458
Oh, at 5:00 PM?

1735
00:42:59,458 --> 00:43:00,873
From 5:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.

1736
00:43:00,873 --> 00:43:01,524
Giving them 45 minutes is

1737
00:43:01,524 --> 00:43:02,254
enough, but...

1738
00:43:02,254 --> 00:43:03,274
I'm counting on you. Do

1739
00:43:03,274 --> 00:43:04,108
you want me to give

1740
00:43:04,108 --> 00:43:05,141
them 45 minutes, Tony? I...I

1741
00:43:05,141 --> 00:43:06,189
can tell them about 45

1742
00:43:06,189 --> 00:43:07,540
minutes. I'll tell them about

1743
00:43:07,540 --> 00:43:08,195
30 minutes.

1744
00:43:08,195 --> 00:43:09,221
Well, the only thing is...I just

1745
00:43:09,221 --> 00:43:10,116
...we really want to

1746
00:43:10,116 --> 00:43:10,800
ask all

1747
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,695
the questions at the end,

1748
00:43:11,695 --> 00:43:12,748
so it might delay the

1749
00:43:12,748 --> 00:43:13,227
process.

1750
00:43:13,227 --> 00:43:14,784
Their presentations. What do

1751
00:43:14,784 --> 00:43:16,086
you say, Karl?

1752
00:43:16,086 --> 00:43:17,456
I was going to say...I

1753
00:43:17,456 --> 00:43:18,038
was going to

1754
00:43:18,038 --> 00:43:19,409
suggest starting

1755
00:43:19,409 --> 00:43:20,642
at 6:00 PM, because our

1756
00:43:20,642 --> 00:43:21,807
meetings usually

1757
00:43:21,807 --> 00:43:22,938
start at 6:00 PM

1758
00:43:22,938 --> 00:43:24,274
if companies can

1759
00:43:24,274 --> 00:43:25,405
do that, and I

1760
00:43:25,405 --> 00:43:26,741
like 45 minutes

1761
00:43:26,741 --> 00:43:27,563
and 15 minutes for

1762
00:43:27,563 --> 00:43:28,797
discussion, but that's

1763
00:43:28,797 --> 00:43:30,165
just my suggestion. It

1764
00:43:30,165 --> 00:43:31,961
just seems to me that

1765
00:43:31,961 --> 00:43:33,623
it's 7:00 PM, 7:00–8:00 PM, and 8:

1766
00:43:33,623 --> 00:43:34,844
00–9:00 PM. That's why I

1767
00:43:34,844 --> 00:43:36,011
said we should

1768
00:43:36,011 --> 00:43:36,890
start at 5:00 PM.

1769
00:43:36,890 --> 00:43:37,866
If we're going to

1770
00:43:37,866 --> 00:43:38,870
do all three in

1771
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:39,874
one evening, I thought

1772
00:43:39,874 --> 00:43:40,755
we'd break it up.

1773
00:43:40,755 --> 00:43:41,435
You were going to

1774
00:43:41,435 --> 00:43:42,511
try to do

1775
00:43:42,511 --> 00:43:43,878
all three in one evening.

1776
00:43:43,878 --> 00:43:45,246
The best approach for the

1777
00:43:45,246 --> 00:43:46,404
council, in my opinion, from what

1778
00:43:46,404 --> 00:43:48,183
I hear.

1779
00:43:48,183 --> 00:43:48,736
Good.

1780
00:43:48,736 --> 00:43:49,727
Yes, we can

1781
00:43:49,727 --> 00:43:50,307
do that.

1782
00:43:50,307 --> 00:43:51,880
7th at 5:00 p.m.

1783
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,170
Yes, at 17:00 on the 7th.

1784
00:43:54,170 --> 00:43:55,097
So this is a face-to-face meeting

1785
00:43:55,097 --> 00:43:56,140
?

1786
00:43:56,140 --> 00:43:56,555
No.

1787
00:43:56,555 --> 00:43:57,831
Okay, so it's all through

1788
00:43:57,831 --> 00:43:59,076
Teams, so you don't even

1789
00:43:59,076 --> 00:44:00,326
have to come.

1790
00:44:00,326 --> 00:44:01,253
Oho.

1791
00:44:01,253 --> 00:44:02,490
No need, John, don't

1792
00:44:02,490 --> 00:44:05,103
give them ideas.

1793
00:44:05,103 --> 00:44:06,257
Why? You don't

1794
00:44:06,257 --> 00:44:07,492
need my background

1795
00:44:07,492 --> 00:44:10,972
noise, do you? Just

1796
00:44:10,972 --> 00:44:14,240
turn off the microphone. Oh,

1797
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:17,797
great.

1798
00:44:17,797 --> 00:44:18,486
I don't

1799
00:44:18,486 --> 00:44:19,723
like it. I don't

1800
00:44:19,723 --> 00:44:21,140
like attending

1801
00:44:21,140 --> 00:44:23,143
meetings like at DRB. It's

1802
00:44:23,143 --> 00:44:24,297
very difficult to be on

1803
00:44:24,297 --> 00:44:25,621
the screen and not in the room

1804
00:44:25,621 --> 00:44:26,319
.

1805
00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:27,561
They are all about the schedule

1806
00:44:27,561 --> 00:44:28,185
on the website.

1807
00:44:28,185 --> 00:44:29,367
So, oh, you

1808
00:44:29,367 --> 00:44:30,686
mean the speakers?

1809
00:44:30,686 --> 00:44:33,730
Yes.

1810
00:44:33,730 --> 00:44:35,163
7th at 5:00 for all

1811
00:44:35,163 --> 00:44:36,819
three websites.

1812
00:44:36,819 --> 00:44:37,795
This is the 7th.

1813
00:44:37,795 --> 00:44:38,889
Time in October.

1814
00:44:38,889 --> 00:44:40,617
It will be at 5:00 p.m.

1815
00:44:40,617 --> 00:44:43,821
Yes. And I'll bring the pizza.

1816
00:44:43,821 --> 00:44:44,956
I have a small

1817
00:44:44,956 --> 00:44:46,331
burger. That is, I can

1818
00:44:46,331 --> 00:44:47,623
bring a burger to

1819
00:44:47,623 --> 00:44:48,567
Again, this is an

1820
00:44:48,567 --> 00:44:49,845
alternative. I have to

1821
00:44:49,845 --> 00:44:51,156
work with them

1822
00:44:51,156 --> 00:44:54,696
to get things sorted out.

1823
00:44:54,696 --> 00:44:58,652
So, okay. I

1824
00:44:58,652 --> 00:44:59,678
will check everything, try to

1825
00:44:59,678 --> 00:45:00,673
confirm it, and

1826
00:45:00,673 --> 00:45:01,824
then send

1827
00:45:01,824 --> 00:45:03,006
you these three completed

1828
00:45:03,006 --> 00:45:06,383
documents again for your review.

1829
00:45:06,383 --> 00:45:07,792
And we are holding December

1830
00:45:07,792 --> 00:45:07,929
.

1831
00:45:07,929 --> 00:45:09,306
And we are holding December

1832
00:45:09,306 --> 00:45:09,442
.

1833
00:45:09,442 --> 00:45:13,008
Like, okay. OK.

1834
00:45:13,008 --> 00:45:14,303
We want to target

1835
00:45:14,303 --> 00:45:15,631
No, we

1836
00:45:15,631 --> 00:45:16,661
will not do anything with the

1837
00:45:16,661 --> 00:45:18,818
charter change right now.

1838
00:45:18,818 --> 00:45:20,120
Right, while we're

1839
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,234
talking about changing

1840
00:45:21,234 --> 00:45:22,441
my note. I'm not

1841
00:45:22,441 --> 00:45:23,205
going to

1842
00:45:23,205 --> 00:45:24,258
put up with this.

1843
00:45:24,258 --> 00:45:25,540
We'll do it later, we'll

1844
00:45:25,540 --> 00:45:26,638
set a date.

1845
00:45:26,638 --> 00:45:27,976
You could leave

1846
00:45:27,976 --> 00:45:29,462
We could consider the

1847
00:45:29,462 --> 00:45:30,901
26th if we're ready.

1848
00:45:30,901 --> 00:45:31,851
next time

1849
00:45:31,851 --> 00:45:32,917
No, let's just

1850
00:45:32,917 --> 00:45:34,023
leave it at that. So,

1851
00:45:34,023 --> 00:45:34,582
we'll have a

1852
00:45:34,582 --> 00:45:35,141
transportation

1853
00:45:35,141 --> 00:45:36,088
ordinance there, and then we

1854
00:45:36,088 --> 00:45:36,869
could do

1855
00:45:36,869 --> 00:45:37,611
Oh, this is a public

1856
00:45:37,611 --> 00:45:38,255
hearing on the

1857
00:45:38,255 --> 00:45:38,874
transportation

1858
00:45:38,874 --> 00:45:39,622
ordinance. Never

1859
00:45:39,622 --> 00:45:40,841
mind. I thought it was a

1860
00:45:40,841 --> 00:45:42,249
public hearing.

1861
00:45:42,249 --> 00:45:43,427
Give me directions

1862
00:45:43,427 --> 00:45:44,895
for tomorrow. Next

1863
00:45:44,895 --> 00:45:47,539
step. That's all I have

1864
00:45:47,539 --> 00:45:48,889
at the moment regarding the

1865
00:45:48,889 --> 00:45:53,015
schedule. What is it?

1866
00:45:53,015 --> 00:45:54,009
Well, nothing else

1867
00:45:54,009 --> 00:45:55,039
uses that

1868
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:56,473
room on those evenings. I

1869
00:45:56,473 --> 00:45:57,233
didn't look at the

1870
00:45:57,233 --> 00:45:57,962
calendar.

1871
00:45:57,962 --> 00:45:59,327
Um, yes, there probably is something

1872
00:45:59,327 --> 00:46:00,692
, but I'll have to

1873
00:46:00,692 --> 00:46:02,022
move them to another

1874
00:46:02,022 --> 00:46:04,332
room. Let me

1875
00:46:04,332 --> 00:46:05,758
see.

1876
00:46:05,758 --> 00:46:06,748
We can always

1877
00:46:06,748 --> 00:46:07,801
go to New

1878
00:46:07,801 --> 00:46:11,751
Orleans.

1879
00:46:11,751 --> 00:46:16,104
All of them, the ball and the alley. There are

1880
00:46:16,104 --> 00:46:21,019
plenty of places there.

1881
00:46:21,019 --> 00:46:21,746
We just need to

1882
00:46:21,746 --> 00:46:22,383
warn you

1883
00:46:22,383 --> 00:46:23,423
in advance, right?

1884
00:46:23,423 --> 00:46:24,647
Yes.

1885
00:46:24,647 --> 00:46:27,155
OK. Board review and

1886
00:46:27,155 --> 00:46:28,199
approval of

1887
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:29,271
award upon request

1888
00:46:29,271 --> 00:46:30,924
for proposals regarding

1889
00:46:30,953 --> 00:46:32,611
staff compensation.

1890
00:46:32,611 --> 00:46:33,826
Okay, some of you

1891
00:46:33,826 --> 00:46:34,590
have responded to the

1892
00:46:34,590 --> 00:46:35,458
posted

1893
00:46:35,458 --> 00:46:37,852
suggestions. Again

1894
00:46:37,852 --> 00:46:38,957
, this is something we

1895
00:46:38,957 --> 00:46:40,169
wanted to try to

1896
00:46:40,169 --> 00:46:41,274
complete by the 1st of the

1897
00:46:41,274 --> 00:46:42,344
year if we

1898
00:46:42,344 --> 00:46:44,754
could. My

1899
00:46:44,754 --> 00:46:46,119
recommendation to the board at

1900
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:47,029
this time is

1901
00:46:47,029 --> 00:46:48,324
to award this request

1902
00:46:48,324 --> 00:46:49,234
for proposals to

1903
00:46:49,234 --> 00:46:52,783
MGT. And

1904
00:46:52,783 --> 00:46:53,729
accept their

1905
00:46:53,729 --> 00:46:54,530
offer,

1906
00:46:54,530 --> 00:46:55,840
invite them here and

1907
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,313
start working. And

1908
00:46:57,313 --> 00:46:58,559
we should get

1909
00:46:58,559 --> 00:46:59,872
theirs based on that,

1910
00:46:59,872 --> 00:47:01,118
we should get

1911
00:47:01,118 --> 00:47:04,378
their presentation and

1912
00:47:04,378 --> 00:47:05,503
proposal either by

1913
00:47:05,503 --> 00:47:06,458
the end of the year or

1914
00:47:06,458 --> 00:47:07,789
right after the New

1915
00:47:07,789 --> 00:47:09,472
Year. Because we delayed

1916
00:47:09,472 --> 00:47:10,556
it on our end,

1917
00:47:10,556 --> 00:47:11,675
probably for almost 2

1918
00:47:11,675 --> 00:47:13,782
weeks. So, but right

1919
00:47:13,782 --> 00:47:14,714
now most of

1920
00:47:14,714 --> 00:47:15,647
their schedule

1921
00:47:15,647 --> 00:47:16,579
shows that they

1922
00:47:16,579 --> 00:47:17,760
can provide it to us

1923
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:18,568
by the end of the year,

1924
00:47:18,568 --> 00:47:19,407
maybe after

1925
00:47:19,407 --> 00:47:21,549
talking to them. Also.

1926
00:47:21,549 --> 00:47:22,149
Good.

1927
00:47:22,149 --> 00:47:23,764
This is my recommendation.

1928
00:47:23,764 --> 00:47:29,884
What would the council like to

1929
00:47:29,884 --> 00:47:30,545
do?

1930
00:47:30,545 --> 00:47:31,534
I mean, I was the one I

1931
00:47:31,534 --> 00:47:32,497
thought about

1932
00:47:32,497 --> 00:47:33,534
when we were watching

1933
00:47:33,534 --> 00:47:33,917
Tak.

1934
00:47:33,917 --> 00:47:35,096
which is not what

1935
00:47:35,096 --> 00:47:36,798
you were looking at.

1936
00:47:36,798 --> 00:47:38,105
Again, they're not the

1937
00:47:38,105 --> 00:47:39,480
cheapest, but their

1938
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,753
package as a whole, their

1939
00:47:40,753 --> 00:47:41,716
presentation, and the

1940
00:47:41,716 --> 00:47:42,817
resources they're

1941
00:47:42,817 --> 00:47:43,780
going to

1942
00:47:43,780 --> 00:47:44,949
give us, I think it's the

1943
00:47:44,949 --> 00:47:46,119
best option

1944
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:50,303
for us. This is my opinion.

1945
00:47:50,303 --> 00:47:55,358
I agree with that. Are there

1946
00:47:55,358 --> 00:47:56,858
any other discussions?

1947
00:47:56,858 --> 00:47:57,924
No, I'm just looking

1948
00:47:57,924 --> 00:47:58,976
at the second option.

1949
00:47:58,976 --> 00:47:59,515
Good.

1950
00:47:59,515 --> 00:48:00,093
Second

1951
00:48:00,093 --> 00:48:01,190
Keep going, Karl.

1952
00:48:01,190 --> 00:48:02,269
company and look at the

1953
00:48:02,269 --> 00:48:03,384
weaknesses. That's

1954
00:48:03,384 --> 00:48:08,645
all. Ahem. I know I've

1955
00:48:08,645 --> 00:48:09,888
read them before, but I'm just

1956
00:48:09,888 --> 00:48:11,131
trying to remember.

1957
00:48:11,131 --> 00:48:15,187
OK. Good. Yes. I am

1958
00:48:15,187 --> 00:48:16,865
ready.

1959
00:48:16,865 --> 00:48:20,627
MGT.

1960
00:48:20,627 --> 00:48:21,596
I hate this

1961
00:48:21,596 --> 00:48:23,679
computer. I just can't get

1962
00:48:23,710 --> 00:48:24,470
the image to display.

1963
00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:25,637
I'm sure it's the

1964
00:48:25,637 --> 00:48:26,484
user's fault.

1965
00:48:26,484 --> 00:48:27,925
Um...Well, anyway

1966
00:48:27,925 --> 00:48:31,046
.

1967
00:48:31,046 --> 00:48:32,510
I propose to approve.

1968
00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:33,933
Yes, therefore, the proposal is

1969
00:48:33,933 --> 00:48:35,356
to approve the involvement of MGT

1970
00:48:35,356 --> 00:48:35,619
.

1971
00:48:35,619 --> 00:48:36,392
Award them a

1972
00:48:36,392 --> 00:48:37,040
contract.

1973
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,195
Give me a contract.

1974
00:48:38,195 --> 00:48:39,472
I propose to award.

1975
00:48:39,472 --> 00:48:40,044
based on

1976
00:48:40,044 --> 00:48:40,950
the results of a request for

1977
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:41,694
proposals (RFP).

1978
00:48:41,694 --> 00:48:43,267
Yes.

1979
00:48:43,267 --> 00:48:44,257
I support this

1980
00:48:44,257 --> 00:48:45,128
proposal.

1981
00:48:45,128 --> 00:48:45,935
Who is for it?

1982
00:48:45,935 --> 00:48:47,830
Ya.

1983
00:48:47,830 --> 00:48:50,190
Who's against? Thank you,

1984
00:48:50,190 --> 00:48:50,844
Vince.

1985
00:48:50,844 --> 00:48:52,222
OK. Thank you.

1986
00:48:52,222 --> 00:48:55,285
Here it is.

1987
00:48:55,285 --> 00:48:56,559
Okay, approval of

1988
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:57,489
all licenses,

1989
00:48:57,489 --> 00:48:58,867
permits, vouchers, and

1990
00:48:58,867 --> 00:49:00,963
applications. Did

1991
00:49:00,963 --> 00:49:02,326
you want to open this

1992
00:49:02,326 --> 00:49:02,461
?

1993
00:49:02,461 --> 00:49:03,238
No, you can

1994
00:49:03,238 --> 00:49:04,658
handle it yourself.

1995
00:49:04,658 --> 00:49:05,922
I just need

1996
00:49:05,922 --> 00:49:10,701
new glasses.

1997
00:49:10,701 --> 00:49:12,591
I propose to

1998
00:49:12,591 --> 00:49:14,836
approve

1999
00:49:14,836 --> 00:49:16,549
payroll 2707 for the

2000
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:18,794
period from September 6,

2001
00:49:18,794 --> 00:49:20,980
2026 to September 19,

2002
00:49:20,980 --> 00:49:22,811
2026, due on

2003
00:49:22,811 --> 00:49:24,879
September 23, 2026, in the

2004
00:49:24,879 --> 00:49:26,769
amount of $78,093.88

2005
00:49:26,769 --> 00:49:30,564
. Expense

2006
00:49:30,564 --> 00:49:34,066
warrant 27G06, checks number

2007
00:49:34,066 --> 00:49:37,568
26574-26616 and electronic

2008
00:49:37,568 --> 00:49:41,255
checks number 28-29 in the amount of

2009
00:49:41,255 --> 00:49:46,239
$315,928.35 cents.

2010
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,859
Expense order 27G07

2011
00:49:48,859 --> 00:49:50,790
with electronic

2012
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:53,548
checks number 33 and 34 in

2013
00:49:53,548 --> 00:49:55,824
the amount of $148,562.05

2014
00:49:55,824 --> 00:50:00,473
cents. Expense

2015
00:50:00,473 --> 00:50:03,351
warrant 27S04 with checks

2016
00:50:03,351 --> 00:50:06,667
number 4778-4786 in the amount of

2017
00:50:06,667 --> 00:50:09,925
$22,501.42 cents. I

2018
00:50:09,925 --> 00:50:13,182
support. Are

2019
00:50:13,182 --> 00:50:14,724
there any questions?

2020
00:50:14,724 --> 00:50:15,767
Can I ask

2021
00:50:15,767 --> 00:50:21,079
a question? Um, I've

2022
00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:21,954
noticed that we're

2023
00:50:21,954 --> 00:50:23,032
getting more of

2024
00:50:23,032 --> 00:50:23,840
these direct

2025
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:24,951
payments along with

2026
00:50:24,951 --> 00:50:26,299
checks, but aren't they

2027
00:50:26,299 --> 00:50:32,145
listed? So are

2028
00:50:32,145 --> 00:50:33,557
they separate? I

2029
00:50:33,557 --> 00:50:34,793
tried to listen

2030
00:50:34,793 --> 00:50:36,172
when you spoke, but do

2031
00:50:36,172 --> 00:50:37,550
you understand what I mean

2032
00:50:37,550 --> 00:50:37,686
?

2033
00:50:37,686 --> 00:50:38,217
Mhm.

2034
00:50:38,217 --> 00:50:38,901
So I'm just

2035
00:50:38,901 --> 00:50:40,062
trying to understand

2036
00:50:40,062 --> 00:50:40,776
where exactly we are

2037
00:50:40,776 --> 00:50:41,938
approving them. I

2038
00:50:41,938 --> 00:50:43,146
mean, they're all

2039
00:50:43,146 --> 00:50:44,486
electronic, right?

2040
00:50:44,486 --> 00:50:45,725
But this...so I don't know,

2041
00:50:45,725 --> 00:50:46,965
but they're not listed in the

2042
00:50:46,965 --> 00:50:48,393
general list.

2043
00:50:48,393 --> 00:50:49,148
I need to

2044
00:50:49,148 --> 00:50:49,991
check to

2045
00:50:49,991 --> 00:50:50,980
make sure I'm

2046
00:50:50,980 --> 00:50:52,027
right. Again,

2047
00:50:52,027 --> 00:50:53,642
she was supposed to be here tonight for

2048
00:50:53,666 --> 00:50:54,625
this. But

2049
00:50:54,625 --> 00:50:55,973
yes, I told you why it's

2050
00:50:55,973 --> 00:50:56,627
not there.

2051
00:50:56,627 --> 00:50:58,079
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

2052
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:00,884
Ahem. that direct payments

2053
00:51:00,884 --> 00:51:02,142
are included in the

2054
00:51:02,142 --> 00:51:04,071
total. That's why I started

2055
00:51:04,071 --> 00:51:05,357
explaining to him why

2056
00:51:05,357 --> 00:51:06,322
you don't see

2057
00:51:06,322 --> 00:51:07,350
some checks there, but

2058
00:51:07,350 --> 00:51:09,583
they are accounted for. Yes? In

2059
00:51:09,583 --> 00:51:10,769
general terms, but

2060
00:51:10,769 --> 00:51:11,549
I need to

2061
00:51:11,549 --> 00:51:12,854
confirm this. Ahem.

2062
00:51:12,854 --> 00:51:14,115
It looks like she might

2063
00:51:14,115 --> 00:51:15,525
need to add another

2064
00:51:15,525 --> 00:51:16,834
chapter. You would I

2065
00:51:16,834 --> 00:51:18,022
guess that's my

2066
00:51:18,022 --> 00:51:19,324
question. If you

2067
00:51:19,324 --> 00:51:20,473
want to see them

2068
00:51:20,473 --> 00:51:21,266
separately

2069
00:51:21,266 --> 00:51:21,921
Well

2070
00:51:21,921 --> 00:51:23,521
as a direct payment, yes,

2071
00:51:23,521 --> 00:51:25,923
not checks. Good. Yes.

2072
00:51:25,923 --> 00:51:26,827
We need to know what

2073
00:51:26,827 --> 00:51:27,895
they are in total

2074
00:51:27,895 --> 00:51:28,772
, and know where we are

2075
00:51:28,772 --> 00:51:29,485
approving them,

2076
00:51:29,485 --> 00:51:30,106
right?

2077
00:51:30,106 --> 00:51:31,271
Yes, I agree.

2078
00:51:31,271 --> 00:51:33,008
Perfectly.

2079
00:51:33,008 --> 00:51:34,594
Direct payment, indicated

2080
00:51:34,594 --> 00:51:36,403
separately. Without a warrant.

2081
00:51:36,403 --> 00:51:37,835
Chris, do you have anything?

2082
00:51:37,835 --> 00:51:38,581
Yes, that would be

2083
00:51:38,581 --> 00:51:39,189
ideal.

2084
00:51:39,189 --> 00:51:40,065
And that's clear.

2085
00:51:40,065 --> 00:51:41,308
Sorry. I didn't catch the

2086
00:51:41,308 --> 00:51:42,278
last part.

2087
00:51:42,278 --> 00:51:43,308
Say it again.

2088
00:51:43,308 --> 00:51:44,104
I said.

2089
00:51:44,104 --> 00:51:45,085
That made it harder

2090
00:51:45,085 --> 00:51:46,162
to swallow, didn't

2091
00:51:46,162 --> 00:51:48,576
it? This is a single payment,

2092
00:51:48,576 --> 00:51:49,499
right? This is not an

2093
00:51:49,499 --> 00:51:51,515
additional bill.

2094
00:51:51,515 --> 00:51:53,814
That $168,000?

2095
00:51:53,814 --> 00:51:54,439
Yes.

2096
00:51:54,439 --> 00:51:55,297
I believe this is the

2097
00:51:55,297 --> 00:51:56,012
last and

2098
00:51:56,012 --> 00:51:57,336
final one for now

2099
00:51:57,336 --> 00:51:58,468
.

2100
00:51:58,468 --> 00:51:59,712
Yes.

2101
00:51:59,712 --> 00:52:01,284
Behind that fence?

2102
00:52:01,284 --> 00:52:02,407
For that sidewalk.

2103
00:52:02,407 --> 00:52:02,804
Yes.

2104
00:52:02,804 --> 00:52:03,835
We'll talk

2105
00:52:03,835 --> 00:52:04,727
about this a little bit at the roundtable

2106
00:52:04,727 --> 00:52:05,190
.

2107
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:05,774
Good.

2108
00:52:05,774 --> 00:52:06,362
Also.

2109
00:52:06,362 --> 00:52:07,471
Good.

2110
00:52:07,471 --> 00:52:09,416
I support. Who is for it?

2111
00:52:09,416 --> 00:52:10,706
By.

2112
00:52:10,706 --> 00:52:12,424
Against?

2113
00:52:12,424 --> 00:52:13,558
We will discuss this at the

2114
00:52:13,558 --> 00:52:14,540
round table.

2115
00:52:14,540 --> 00:52:20,831
Good.

2116
00:52:20,831 --> 00:52:21,564
We may

2117
00:52:21,564 --> 00:52:22,233
have to

2118
00:52:22,233 --> 00:52:25,279
go back. Maybe

2119
00:52:25,279 --> 00:52:26,433
I should

2120
00:52:26,433 --> 00:52:28,702
say this.

2121
00:52:28,702 --> 00:52:29,650
Just as long as you

2122
00:52:29,650 --> 00:52:30,984
sign and write,

2123
00:52:30,984 --> 00:52:33,016
just a note.

2124
00:52:33,016 --> 00:52:34,277
You should look

2125
00:52:34,277 --> 00:52:35,507
at the details for them, because

2126
00:52:35,507 --> 00:52:36,704
this is the same company

2127
00:52:36,704 --> 00:52:37,804
that is still working on

2128
00:52:37,804 --> 00:52:38,289
replacing the

2129
00:52:38,289 --> 00:52:39,583
culvert

2130
00:52:39,583 --> 00:52:40,913
on Painter Pike North.

2131
00:52:40,913 --> 00:52:41,610
Got it.

2132
00:52:41,610 --> 00:52:42,683
They do both

2133
00:52:42,683 --> 00:52:43,190
objects.

2134
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:43,744
Good.

2135
00:52:43,744 --> 00:52:44,881
So, we don't want to

2136
00:52:44,881 --> 00:52:45,455
confuse them.

2137
00:52:45,455 --> 00:52:46,232
Yes.

2138
00:52:46,232 --> 00:52:47,111
And this should be

2139
00:52:47,111 --> 00:52:48,119
described in detail there.

2140
00:52:48,119 --> 00:52:49,388
This is actually very This is

2141
00:52:49,388 --> 00:52:50,722
very Pike North.

2142
00:52:50,722 --> 00:52:51,928
And Fisher Road.

2143
00:52:51,928 --> 00:52:52,317
Yes.

2144
00:52:52,317 --> 00:52:53,355
It was very

2145
00:52:53,355 --> 00:52:54,547
It was clear.

2146
00:52:54,547 --> 00:52:57,356
Yes.

2147
00:52:57,356 --> 00:53:00,780
Eh, a round table? There is

2148
00:53:00,815 --> 00:53:02,934
nothing for me today.

2149
00:53:02,934 --> 00:53:04,519
Chris?

2150
00:53:04,519 --> 00:53:10,806
Um, yeah, so in terms of

2151
00:53:10,806 --> 00:53:11,909
future spending by

2152
00:53:11,909 --> 00:53:13,184
cities with some of these

2153
00:53:13,184 --> 00:53:14,356
companies, I'll just

2154
00:53:14,356 --> 00:53:15,494
use PT Can as an

2155
00:53:15,494 --> 00:53:16,804
example, because that's one of the

2156
00:53:16,804 --> 00:53:18,148
most recent cases

2157
00:53:18,148 --> 00:53:20,320
.

2158
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:20,883
Mhm.

2159
00:53:20,883 --> 00:53:24,432
Ahem. We

2160
00:53:24,432 --> 00:53:25,749
spent, I think,

2161
00:53:25,749 --> 00:53:28,038
thousands of dollars in that process, right?

2162
00:53:28,038 --> 00:53:28,862
For

2163
00:53:28,862 --> 00:53:30,324
attorneys' fees and so on

2164
00:53:30,324 --> 00:53:30,946
.

2165
00:53:30,946 --> 00:53:32,427
It was a considerable amount.

2166
00:53:32,427 --> 00:53:33,552
So maybe it's worth

2167
00:53:33,552 --> 00:53:34,324
considering

2168
00:53:34,324 --> 00:53:35,578
further discussion

2169
00:53:35,578 --> 00:53:36,475
. Maybe not

2170
00:53:36,475 --> 00:53:37,894
necessarily

2171
00:53:37,894 --> 00:53:42,196
tonight, but think

2172
00:53:42,196 --> 00:53:43,323
about it for the future

2173
00:53:43,323 --> 00:53:44,064
when these things

2174
00:53:44,064 --> 00:53:47,889
come up again.

2175
00:53:47,889 --> 00:53:48,864
Maybe these people

2176
00:53:48,864 --> 00:53:50,132
should cover

2177
00:53:50,132 --> 00:53:51,075
our

2178
00:53:51,075 --> 00:53:54,350
attorney fees and all that.

2179
00:53:54,350 --> 00:53:55,338
Just part of

2180
00:53:55,338 --> 00:53:56,547
the business. Part of the

2181
00:53:56,547 --> 00:53:58,053
deal, I mean

2182
00:53:58,053 --> 00:54:00,349
. That's right. So it makes

2183
00:54:00,349 --> 00:54:01,291
sense.

2184
00:54:01,291 --> 00:54:02,626
This was, this was one

2185
00:54:02,626 --> 00:54:03,997
of my roundtables

2186
00:54:03,997 --> 00:54:04,344
, uh

2187
00:54:04,344 --> 00:54:05,883
Okay, continuing with this

2188
00:54:05,883 --> 00:54:06,023
.

2189
00:54:06,023 --> 00:54:08,004
Mhm.

2190
00:54:08,004 --> 00:54:09,105
Remind me, did they

2191
00:54:09,105 --> 00:54:10,368
need us to

2192
00:54:10,368 --> 00:54:11,663
act before they

2193
00:54:11,663 --> 00:54:12,829
bought the building, or were

2194
00:54:12,829 --> 00:54:14,092
we just doing it out of

2195
00:54:14,092 --> 00:54:16,158
politeness? Because

2196
00:54:16,158 --> 00:54:17,286
maybe we should

2197
00:54:17,286 --> 00:54:18,581
just say we

2198
00:54:18,581 --> 00:54:19,876
won't consider

2199
00:54:19,876 --> 00:54:21,066
it until

2200
00:54:21,066 --> 00:54:22,215
MGM. I actually

2201
00:54:22,215 --> 00:54:23,773
agree with that. Yes.

2202
00:54:23,773 --> 00:54:24,913
Yeah, I mean, I do

2203
00:54:24,913 --> 00:54:26,064
n't think it was about

2204
00:54:26,064 --> 00:54:26,849
wanting to pay a

2205
00:54:26,849 --> 00:54:27,830
lawyer to

2206
00:54:27,830 --> 00:54:28,856
look at it.

2207
00:54:28,856 --> 00:54:29,754
True.

2208
00:54:29,754 --> 00:54:31,370
Yes, I don't know for sure.

2209
00:54:31,370 --> 00:54:31,851
Ahem.

2210
00:54:31,851 --> 00:54:33,036
Yes, I'm not asking you

2211
00:54:33,036 --> 00:54:34,109
specifically. I'm

2212
00:54:34,109 --> 00:54:35,107
just curious.

2213
00:54:35,107 --> 00:54:36,007
They were considering

2214
00:54:36,007 --> 00:54:37,207
purchasing the

2215
00:54:37,207 --> 00:54:38,489
building and studying it.

2216
00:54:38,489 --> 00:54:39,551
Both they and they didn't, both

2217
00:54:39,551 --> 00:54:40,800
they and they didn't buy the

2218
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,369
building.

2219
00:54:41,369 --> 00:54:42,791
True. So, I

2220
00:54:42,791 --> 00:54:43,950
We sold it

2221
00:54:43,950 --> 00:54:44,592
So, but my

2222
00:54:44,592 --> 00:54:45,503
question is: why did we

2223
00:54:45,503 --> 00:54:46,441
immediately move on to having the

2224
00:54:46,441 --> 00:54:47,245
lawyer

2225
00:54:47,245 --> 00:54:48,290
do all this work

2226
00:54:48,290 --> 00:54:49,350
? If we did it

2227
00:54:49,350 --> 00:54:50,393
just for them because

2228
00:54:50,393 --> 00:54:51,490
they were studying the issue,

2229
00:54:51,490 --> 00:54:51,975
maybe

2230
00:54:51,975 --> 00:54:53,424
So we need, to

2231
00:54:53,424 --> 00:54:54,510
put a process in place. I

2232
00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:55,895
think that's the point.

2233
00:54:55,895 --> 00:54:56,411
Mhm.

2234
00:54:56,411 --> 00:54:57,061
Good.

2235
00:54:57,061 --> 00:54:58,237
And this, this should not

2236
00:54:58,237 --> 00:54:59,688
be at the expense of the city of

2237
00:54:59,688 --> 00:55:00,272
Verno.

2238
00:55:00,272 --> 00:55:00,979
you know.

2239
00:55:00,979 --> 00:55:01,544
True.

2240
00:55:01,544 --> 00:55:02,899
If there are costs

2241
00:55:02,899 --> 00:55:03,214
that

2242
00:55:03,214 --> 00:55:04,320
I, I will look at what is available

2243
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,458
for the process or what

2244
00:55:05,458 --> 00:55:06,469
best

2245
00:55:06,469 --> 00:55:07,107
practices exist.

2246
00:55:07,107 --> 00:55:08,032
I mean, I

2247
00:55:08,032 --> 00:55:08,957
understand they

2248
00:55:08,957 --> 00:55:09,697
want to know

2249
00:55:09,697 --> 00:55:10,652
in advance, but

2250
00:55:10,652 --> 00:55:11,963
okay. This will cost

2251
00:55:11,963 --> 00:55:12,686
us money.

2252
00:55:12,686 --> 00:55:13,483
Simple answer:

2253
00:55:13,483 --> 00:55:14,449
assume you

2254
00:55:14,449 --> 00:55:15,125
will pay

2255
00:55:15,125 --> 00:55:15,588
taxes.

2256
00:55:15,588 --> 00:55:17,893
Until then, yes. Or, you, if you want to

2257
00:55:17,893 --> 00:55:18,905
pay to have

2258
00:55:18,905 --> 00:55:19,644
our lawyer

2259
00:55:19,644 --> 00:55:20,319
look at it.

2260
00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:21,453
True.

2261
00:55:21,453 --> 00:55:22,890
Yes, something and, and

2262
00:55:22,890 --> 00:55:23,725
Looking at it from the

2263
00:55:23,725 --> 00:55:24,638
perspective of the best

2264
00:55:24,638 --> 00:55:25,469
interests of the city.

2265
00:55:25,469 --> 00:55:26,060
Perfectly.

2266
00:55:26,060 --> 00:55:27,205
Yes, I agree. I'll

2267
00:55:27,205 --> 00:55:28,176
show you, I'll take a look to

2268
00:55:28,176 --> 00:55:29,063
make some

2269
00:55:29,063 --> 00:55:29,710
Thanks.

2270
00:55:29,710 --> 00:55:30,741
something written on the

2271
00:55:30,741 --> 00:55:32,015
spot. So some

2272
00:55:32,015 --> 00:55:35,293
rules. That's great, and

2273
00:55:35,293 --> 00:55:36,546
then regarding the candidate

2274
00:55:36,546 --> 00:55:37,900
for the position of

2275
00:55:37,934 --> 00:55:38,950
CFO,

2276
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:40,169
maybe something can be

2277
00:55:40,169 --> 00:55:43,278
added there. Do they have

2278
00:55:43,278 --> 00:55:44,232
strengths in

2279
00:55:44,232 --> 00:55:45,339
investing our

2280
00:55:45,339 --> 00:55:46,354
money in places where

2281
00:55:46,354 --> 00:55:48,608
it can grow?

2282
00:55:48,608 --> 00:55:49,558
Yes.

2283
00:55:49,558 --> 00:55:50,709
there are time windows

2284
00:55:50,709 --> 00:55:52,149
when money could be

2285
00:55:52,149 --> 00:55:53,185
invested.

2286
00:55:53,185 --> 00:55:53,990
Certainly.

2287
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:55,157
We, we're just

2288
00:55:55,157 --> 00:55:56,491
looking into this right now. And you'll

2289
00:55:56,491 --> 00:55:57,459
see when we

2290
00:55:57,459 --> 00:55:58,579
talk about

2291
00:55:58,579 --> 00:55:59,427
budgets, we've already

2292
00:55:59,427 --> 00:56:01,194
made some changes.

2293
00:56:01,194 --> 00:56:02,326
As an example, 2 years

2294
00:56:02,326 --> 00:56:03,423
ago we received

2295
00:56:03,423 --> 00:56:04,767
interest and

2296
00:56:04,767 --> 00:56:05,935
budgeted about

2297
00:56:05,935 --> 00:56:08,050
$5,000 for interest.

2298
00:56:08,050 --> 00:56:09,161
Last year,

2299
00:56:09,161 --> 00:56:09,694
MGM.

2300
00:56:09,694 --> 00:56:11,306
77,000.

2301
00:56:11,306 --> 00:56:12,327
Yes.

2302
00:56:12,327 --> 00:56:13,423
it's pooling

2303
00:56:13,423 --> 00:56:14,620
money and moving to a

2304
00:56:14,620 --> 00:56:15,783
higher interest rate, um,

2305
00:56:15,783 --> 00:56:17,079
just a higher savings

2306
00:56:17,079 --> 00:56:17,711
rate.

2307
00:56:17,711 --> 00:56:18,096
Yes.

2308
00:56:18,096 --> 00:56:19,220
in order for this money to

2309
00:56:19,220 --> 00:56:20,164
be stored there.

2310
00:56:20,164 --> 00:56:20,549
Yes.

2311
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:21,560
We earned

2312
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,655
77,72

2313
00:56:22,655 --> 00:56:24,060
thousand more than

2314
00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:25,529
we earned before.

2315
00:56:25,529 --> 00:56:26,919
This is a huge amount. I mean

2316
00:56:26,919 --> 00:56:28,113
, with

2317
00:56:28,113 --> 00:56:28,878
Absolutely.

2318
00:56:28,878 --> 00:56:30,289
with growth and requirements,

2319
00:56:30,289 --> 00:56:30,850
so

2320
00:56:30,850 --> 00:56:32,223
Yes. We mentioned it to you

2321
00:56:32,223 --> 00:56:33,361
, so it's your

2322
00:56:33,361 --> 00:56:34,244
fault. We

2323
00:56:34,244 --> 00:56:35,391
looked into this after

2324
00:56:35,391 --> 00:56:36,382
you

2325
00:56:36,382 --> 00:56:37,497
mentioned it and found

2326
00:56:37,497 --> 00:56:38,365
some easy

2327
00:56:38,365 --> 00:56:39,511
ways to do it

2328
00:56:39,511 --> 00:56:40,680
right now.

2329
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,008
Yes, that's good. I am

2330
00:56:42,008 --> 00:56:42,793
wonderful.

2331
00:56:42,793 --> 00:56:43,824
And I'm sure there are more

2332
00:56:43,824 --> 00:56:45,037
complex banking

2333
00:56:45,037 --> 00:56:46,099
things we can

2334
00:56:46,099 --> 00:56:46,836
look into,

2335
00:56:46,836 --> 00:56:47,228
Yes.

2336
00:56:47,228 --> 00:56:48,551
but it was simple.

2337
00:56:48,551 --> 00:56:49,064
Yes.

2338
00:56:49,064 --> 00:56:50,267
We were able to do this immediately by

2339
00:56:50,267 --> 00:56:51,185
simply

2340
00:56:51,185 --> 00:56:52,294
moving to higher

2341
00:56:52,294 --> 00:56:53,465
interest rates with a

2342
00:56:53,465 --> 00:56:54,289
larger pool of

2343
00:56:54,289 --> 00:56:55,469
funds.

2344
00:56:55,469 --> 00:56:57,046
Yes. And this is huge

2345
00:56:57,046 --> 00:56:59,454
money. 77 thousand. I

2346
00:56:59,454 --> 00:57:00,796
mean, this is one of

2347
00:57:00,796 --> 00:57:01,998
our trucks.

2348
00:57:01,998 --> 00:57:03,208
Yes, that's right. I

2349
00:57:03,208 --> 00:57:04,228
mean, yeah, and we

2350
00:57:04,228 --> 00:57:05,171
should. You'll see

2351
00:57:05,171 --> 00:57:06,709
it. It will come up when we

2352
00:57:06,732 --> 00:57:07,223
talk about it.

2353
00:57:07,223 --> 00:57:08,151
Yes. Good.

2354
00:57:08,151 --> 00:57:09,230
started doing a little bit of

2355
00:57:09,230 --> 00:57:10,495
that. But is there anything

2356
00:57:10,495 --> 00:57:11,720
else? I am sure we

2357
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:12,521
can do

2358
00:57:12,521 --> 00:57:12,993
more.

2359
00:57:12,993 --> 00:57:14,653
Yes, I'm sure there is,

2360
00:57:14,653 --> 00:57:15,880
and Yes. Good.

2361
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,444
E I think it was

2362
00:57:19,444 --> 00:57:21,583
Yes. Thank you.

2363
00:57:21,583 --> 00:57:23,929
OK.

2364
00:57:23,929 --> 00:57:24,789
Well, I think this is a

2365
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:26,047
clarification on

2366
00:57:26,047 --> 00:57:26,510
who is

2367
00:57:26,510 --> 00:57:27,635
responsible for the

2368
00:57:27,635 --> 00:57:28,463
interceptive

2369
00:57:28,463 --> 00:57:31,637
parking here. I

2370
00:57:31,637 --> 00:57:32,922
think I sent

2371
00:57:32,922 --> 00:57:34,242
you a message about the

2372
00:57:34,242 --> 00:57:35,427
residents in our

2373
00:57:35,427 --> 00:57:36,577
parking lot, which I

2374
00:57:36,577 --> 00:57:37,829
believe is state-owned,

2375
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:38,946
but I don't know if there's

2376
00:57:38,946 --> 00:57:40,300
anyone we can

2377
00:57:40,300 --> 00:57:41,653
or should contact

2378
00:57:41,653 --> 00:57:42,973
about this

2379
00:57:42,973 --> 00:57:43,988
because it could be a

2380
00:57:43,988 --> 00:57:46,907
problem for the city.

2381
00:57:46,907 --> 00:57:48,650
Okay, I'll give you a name.

2382
00:57:48,650 --> 00:57:50,532
I'm sure there's a name.

2383
00:57:50,532 --> 00:57:51,677
We discussed this,

2384
00:57:51,677 --> 00:57:52,965
seeking the permission

2385
00:57:52,965 --> 00:57:54,588
we were expecting.

2386
00:57:54,588 --> 00:57:55,262
Yes.

2387
00:57:55,262 --> 00:57:56,498
What are the conditions there?

2388
00:57:56,498 --> 00:57:57,602
Fourth item on the

2389
00:57:57,602 --> 00:57:58,639
agenda,

2390
00:57:58,639 --> 00:57:59,108
Brede.

2391
00:57:59,108 --> 00:58:01,143
What?

2392
00:58:01,143 --> 00:58:01,976
Contact regarding

2393
00:58:01,976 --> 00:58:03,326
public parking.

2394
00:58:03,326 --> 00:58:05,321
Yes. I will find out for

2395
00:58:05,321 --> 00:58:05,688
you.

2396
00:58:05,688 --> 00:58:06,847
Thank you.

2397
00:58:06,847 --> 00:58:08,017
Can I go

2398
00:58:08,017 --> 00:58:09,523
back? I had another

2399
00:58:09,523 --> 00:58:11,458
one. And this

2400
00:58:11,458 --> 00:58:12,620
Can I ask you to

2401
00:58:12,620 --> 00:58:13,600
do more?

2402
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,227
Sorry. So, I

2403
00:58:16,227 --> 00:58:17,446
chatted with him a little bit

2404
00:58:17,446 --> 00:58:18,731
about the "

2405
00:58:18,731 --> 00:58:19,949
Welcome to Rowley" signs, and

2406
00:58:19,949 --> 00:58:21,267
his schedule has been a little

2407
00:58:21,267 --> 00:58:22,519
crazy the last

2408
00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:25,486
couple of weeks. And mine is

2409
00:58:25,486 --> 00:58:28,642
going crazy. We

2410
00:58:28,642 --> 00:58:29,589
will try

2411
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:30,808
to do something, but we

2412
00:58:30,808 --> 00:58:33,114
cannot guarantee anything. I will

2413
00:58:33,114 --> 00:58:34,932
do my best,

2414
00:58:34,932 --> 00:58:39,271
and this is a challenge. It will be e

2415
00:58:39,271 --> 00:58:39,850
We will just

2416
00:58:39,850 --> 00:58:40,892
have to cut

2417
00:58:40,892 --> 00:58:41,687
your salary.

2418
00:58:41,687 --> 00:58:43,211
I can go for it. Yes,

2419
00:58:43,211 --> 00:58:44,146
you can

2420
00:58:44,146 --> 00:58:46,380
fire me.

2421
00:58:46,380 --> 00:58:47,683
Fewer meetings for

2422
00:58:47,683 --> 00:58:48,030
you.

2423
00:58:48,030 --> 00:58:49,094
Anything you can

2424
00:58:49,094 --> 00:58:50,431
do, we appreciate.

2425
00:58:50,431 --> 00:58:51,335
Maybe I'll skip

2426
00:58:51,335 --> 00:58:52,390
a few meetings and

2427
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:54,918
order catering. No

2428
00:58:54,918 --> 00:58:56,442
, thank you, Chris.

2429
00:58:56,442 --> 00:58:57,840
I appreciate you and know

2430
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,808
you will do your

2431
00:58:58,808 --> 00:58:59,848
best within

2432
00:58:59,848 --> 00:59:01,307
your time.

2433
00:59:01,307 --> 00:59:04,034
Yes. That's all.

2434
00:59:04,034 --> 00:59:04,750
Thank you.

2435
00:59:04,750 --> 00:59:07,198
Sorry. Why does everyone

2436
00:59:07,198 --> 00:59:08,280
frown when it's

2437
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,916
my turn?

2438
00:59:09,916 --> 00:59:11,709
Carlo, no, it's fine,

2439
00:59:11,709 --> 00:59:15,725
Carlo.

2440
00:59:15,725 --> 00:59:17,042
So I don't know if this is

2441
00:59:17,042 --> 00:59:18,325
on your list, but

2442
00:59:18,325 --> 00:59:19,539
today or this

2443
00:59:19,539 --> 00:59:20,475
week I suddenly

2444
00:59:20,475 --> 00:59:21,758
thought about the

2445
00:59:21,758 --> 00:59:22,799
Turnpike payment and what's

2446
00:59:22,799 --> 00:59:23,978
going on, because I

2447
00:59:23,978 --> 00:59:25,018
thought the money

2448
00:59:25,018 --> 00:59:26,370
had to be spent

2449
00:59:26,370 --> 00:59:27,480
before...I thought there was a

2450
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:28,798
deadline for using

2451
00:59:28,798 --> 00:59:29,765
the funding.

2452
00:59:29,765 --> 00:59:31,039
This is next year.

2453
00:59:31,039 --> 00:59:32,053
What about the

2454
00:59:32,053 --> 00:59:32,447
culvert?

2455
00:59:32,447 --> 00:59:32,811
Yes.

2456
00:59:32,811 --> 00:59:33,801
No, everything is fine. Are

2457
00:59:33,801 --> 00:59:34,574
you sure?

2458
00:59:34,574 --> 00:59:35,294
Yes, a

2459
00:59:35,294 --> 00:59:36,022
culvert, yes. Yes,

2460
00:59:36,022 --> 00:59:37,037
sorry. I thought you meant another one

2461
00:59:37,037 --> 00:59:37,864
.

2462
00:59:37,864 --> 00:59:38,740
What about, um, is that

2463
00:59:38,740 --> 00:59:39,563
Richard Sanborn?

2464
00:59:39,563 --> 00:59:40,458
Is this correct?

2465
00:59:40,458 --> 00:59:41,576
Richard Sanborn, we're in

2466
00:59:41,576 --> 00:59:41,948
trouble.

2467
00:59:41,948 --> 00:59:42,931
Yes, we will have

2468
00:59:42,931 --> 00:59:44,253
problems. We have time

2469
00:59:44,253 --> 00:59:45,243
until, um, we're still

2470
00:59:45,243 --> 00:59:46,266
working, still

2471
00:59:46,266 --> 00:59:47,561
working with the state.

2472
00:59:47,561 --> 00:59:48,558
She was very

2473
00:59:48,558 --> 00:59:50,890
good. But from an

2474
00:59:50,890 --> 00:59:52,063
engineering perspective and due to

2475
00:59:52,063 --> 00:59:53,002
delays, we're

2476
00:59:53,002 --> 00:59:54,041
likely to have

2477
00:59:54,041 --> 00:59:56,920
problems with that. If there is

2478
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,807
no breakthrough by

2479
01:00:00,807 --> 01:00:02,171
the end of November,

2480
01:00:02,171 --> 01:00:03,320
significant

2481
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:04,815
progress will be made. We won't

2482
01:00:04,815 --> 01:00:05,970
be able to get another

2483
01:00:05,970 --> 01:00:07,172
sequel.

2484
01:00:07,172 --> 01:00:08,468
We already had three of them.

2485
01:00:08,468 --> 01:00:09,581
The fourth is usually an

2486
01:00:09,581 --> 01:00:10,467
unheard of thing.

2487
01:00:10,467 --> 01:00:11,673
Now if I push the

2488
01:00:11,673 --> 01:00:12,632
Well and

2489
01:00:12,632 --> 01:00:13,808
Berlin sides and work with the

2490
01:00:13,808 --> 01:00:14,868
city department

2491
01:00:14,868 --> 01:00:15,264
Yes.

2492
01:00:15,264 --> 01:00:16,520
maybe we can

2493
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:17,319
do it.

2494
01:00:17,319 --> 01:00:20,480
Yes. Yes, but I will have

2495
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:21,621
better information

2496
01:00:21,621 --> 01:00:24,724
after talking to her. I

2497
01:00:24,724 --> 01:00:26,401
think we have another

2498
01:00:26,401 --> 01:00:30,911
meeting the second

2499
01:00:30,911 --> 01:00:32,145
week of October.

2500
01:00:32,145 --> 01:00:33,508
So, what's the delay

2501
01:00:33,508 --> 01:00:34,693
on the engineering side? Does

2502
01:00:34,693 --> 01:00:35,882
n't this go on for

2503
01:00:35,882 --> 01:00:36,588
years?

2504
01:00:36,588 --> 01:00:37,054
Yes.

2505
01:00:37,054 --> 01:00:37,972
It's not that

2506
01:00:37,972 --> 01:00:38,582
difficult.

2507
01:00:38,582 --> 01:00:39,635
It, it, it

2508
01:00:39,635 --> 01:00:42,884
moves forward. It's

2509
01:00:42,884 --> 01:00:44,119
not, um, there were just

2510
01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:45,535
a lot of things in between that

2511
01:00:45,535 --> 01:00:46,660
happened and things didn't

2512
01:00:46,660 --> 01:00:49,740
go so well.

2513
01:00:49,740 --> 01:00:51,387
Mhm. We can

2514
01:00:51,387 --> 01:00:52,252
discuss this in more

2515
01:00:52,252 --> 01:00:54,789
detail later.

2516
01:00:54,789 --> 01:01:00,030
Good.

2517
01:01:00,030 --> 01:01:01,529
This is a risky object

2518
01:01:01,529 --> 01:01:01,668
.

2519
01:01:01,668 --> 01:01:05,522
Mhm.

2520
01:01:05,522 --> 01:01:07,660
Oh, never mind. I'm

2521
01:01:07,660 --> 01:01:11,827
done. I am everything.

2522
01:01:11,827 --> 01:01:12,748
Good.

2523
01:01:12,748 --> 01:01:16,766
Yes.

2524
01:01:16,766 --> 01:01:17,987
So, I have one

2525
01:01:17,987 --> 01:01:19,353
question, and it's one of

2526
01:01:19,353 --> 01:01:20,574
our favorites—the

2527
01:01:20,574 --> 01:01:24,942
sidewalk. Um,

2528
01:01:24,942 --> 01:01:26,294
actually, Mr. Schultz, a

2529
01:01:26,294 --> 01:01:27,334
representative from

2530
01:01:27,334 --> 01:01:28,652
Mr. Sanders' office, is

2531
01:01:28,652 --> 01:01:30,004
also in touch with us right now

2532
01:01:30,004 --> 01:01:30,975
, because he's

2533
01:01:30,975 --> 01:01:31,912
obviously very

2534
01:01:31,912 --> 01:01:33,264
interested in this

2535
01:01:33,264 --> 01:01:33,958
project and the

2536
01:01:33,958 --> 01:01:38,302
funding. And one

2537
01:01:38,302 --> 01:01:39,566
of the things that came out

2538
01:01:39,566 --> 01:01:40,733
of our meeting with

2539
01:01:40,733 --> 01:01:42,029
the state is that no matter

2540
01:01:42,029 --> 01:01:43,228
what we decide

2541
01:01:43,228 --> 01:01:44,297
at this late

2542
01:01:44,297 --> 01:01:45,496
stage, any

2543
01:01:45,496 --> 01:01:46,468
action will require an

2544
01:01:46,468 --> 01:01:47,732
extension of time

2545
01:01:47,732 --> 01:01:49,706
. So we are announcing this right

2546
01:01:49,706 --> 01:01:53,798
now. Um,

2547
01:01:53,798 --> 01:01:55,303
but there is interest,

2548
01:01:55,303 --> 01:01:56,657
the question is whether there are

2549
01:01:56,657 --> 01:01:58,162
other projects in which we would be

2550
01:01:58,162 --> 01:01:59,479
interested in

2551
01:01:59,479 --> 01:02:00,871
investing this money, this

2552
01:02:00,871 --> 01:02:01,886
1.6 million, that are

2553
01:02:01,886 --> 01:02:02,676
related to

2554
01:02:02,676 --> 01:02:03,655
pedestrian or

2555
01:02:03,655 --> 01:02:04,595
bicycle

2556
01:02:04,595 --> 01:02:06,025
infrastructure or

2557
01:02:06,025 --> 01:02:07,191
multi-purpose

2558
01:02:07,191 --> 01:02:14,023
paths. He

2559
01:02:14,023 --> 01:02:15,358
raised this question and

2560
01:02:15,358 --> 01:02:16,226
asked me

2561
01:02:16,226 --> 01:02:17,294
to ask the council if

2562
01:02:17,294 --> 01:02:18,361
they had any

2563
01:02:18,361 --> 01:02:21,126
ideas.

2564
01:02:21,126 --> 01:02:22,190
Yes, the initial

2565
01:02:22,190 --> 01:02:22,768
project.

2566
01:02:22,768 --> 01:02:23,990
Well, that's what we were

2567
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:25,240
talking about. Besides,

2568
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,138
I'll have to

2569
01:02:26,138 --> 01:02:26,917
go back and

2570
01:02:26,917 --> 01:02:28,055
see what

2571
01:02:28,055 --> 01:02:28,953
stage

2572
01:02:28,953 --> 01:02:30,121
the mall is at,

2573
01:02:30,121 --> 01:02:31,767
right? But it

2574
01:02:31,767 --> 01:02:33,108
was mentioned as one

2575
01:02:33,108 --> 01:02:35,859
of the projects.

2576
01:02:35,859 --> 01:02:37,265
Original.

2577
01:02:37,265 --> 01:02:37,972
Right.

2578
01:02:37,972 --> 01:02:38,809
Return to

2579
01:02:38,809 --> 01:02:39,521
the original.

2580
01:02:39,521 --> 01:02:42,247
That would be ideal.

2581
01:02:42,247 --> 01:02:44,111
Another option

2582
01:02:44,111 --> 01:02:45,835
discussed was a

2583
01:02:45,835 --> 01:02:47,660
3.8-acre trail.

2584
01:02:47,660 --> 01:02:48,790
From Burlington to

2585
01:02:48,790 --> 01:02:49,246
school.

2586
01:02:49,246 --> 01:02:49,641
Yes. Is

2587
01:02:49,641 --> 01:02:50,553
n't that right? Which

2588
01:02:50,553 --> 01:02:51,245
will require

2589
01:02:51,245 --> 01:02:52,245
significant funds due to the

2590
01:02:52,245 --> 01:02:53,168
bridge that needs to be

2591
01:02:53,168 --> 01:02:53,963
built over

2592
01:02:53,963 --> 01:02:54,987
wetlands.

2593
01:02:54,987 --> 01:02:56,239
Right. But this is

2594
01:02:56,239 --> 01:02:57,294
another potential

2595
01:02:57,294 --> 01:02:59,978
option.

2596
01:02:59,978 --> 01:03:01,293
I was thinking about this

2597
01:03:01,293 --> 01:03:02,719
because I have repeatedly

2598
01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:03,961
received calls

2599
01:03:03,961 --> 01:03:05,240
from residents regarding

2600
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:06,410
people walking

2601
01:03:06,410 --> 01:03:09,572
along Route 62.

2602
01:03:09,572 --> 01:03:10,700
Yes.

2603
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:15,954
And about the children

2604
01:03:15,954 --> 01:03:16,977
walking on the side of the

2605
01:03:16,977 --> 01:03:19,827
road. I understand that

2606
01:03:19,827 --> 01:03:21,302
this applies to people

2607
01:03:21,302 --> 01:03:23,069
walking, and

2608
01:03:23,069 --> 01:03:23,462
Yes.

2609
01:03:23,462 --> 01:03:24,554
Where do they go?

2610
01:03:24,554 --> 01:03:26,025
Yes.

2611
01:03:26,025 --> 01:03:27,896
But I've had residents call me

2612
01:03:27,929 --> 01:03:29,045
asking what we're

2613
01:03:29,045 --> 01:03:30,063
going to

2614
01:03:30,063 --> 01:03:31,147
do about it because they don't

2615
01:03:31,147 --> 01:03:32,197
want to see

2616
01:03:32,197 --> 01:03:33,051
little kids

2617
01:03:33,051 --> 01:03:34,760
getting into...

2618
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:35,803
They don't go to

2619
01:03:35,803 --> 01:03:37,126
school, right? Are they

2620
01:03:37,126 --> 01:03:38,744
just leaving? I

2621
01:03:38,744 --> 01:03:41,043
mean, I don't.

2622
01:03:41,043 --> 01:03:42,423
So, I was told that there

2623
01:03:42,423 --> 01:03:43,631
are those who go there with their

2624
01:03:43,631 --> 01:03:44,804
parents to school,

2625
01:03:44,804 --> 01:03:46,185
but there are also those who go

2626
01:03:46,185 --> 01:03:47,393
and then cross the

2627
01:03:47,393 --> 01:03:53,113
street to get to

2628
01:03:53,113 --> 01:03:54,304
Applebee's or something

2629
01:03:54,304 --> 01:03:57,077
else there. Ahem.

2630
01:03:57,077 --> 01:03:58,888
Yes, no, just curious

2631
01:03:58,888 --> 01:03:59,267
, because

2632
01:03:59,267 --> 01:03:59,668
Yes.

2633
01:03:59,668 --> 01:04:03,407
So, of course,

2634
01:04:03,407 --> 01:04:04,675
I think it opens up

2635
01:04:04,675 --> 01:04:05,944
possibilities if we

2636
01:04:05,944 --> 01:04:10,742
make a path there,

2637
01:04:10,742 --> 01:04:16,433
what is the school's position

2638
01:04:16,433 --> 01:04:17,702
on this in terms of

2639
01:04:17,702 --> 01:04:19,611
safety?

2640
01:04:19,611 --> 01:04:20,750
From what I understand

2641
01:04:20,750 --> 01:04:21,612
from previous

2642
01:04:21,612 --> 01:04:22,941
staff

2643
01:04:22,941 --> 01:04:24,223
who

2644
01:04:24,223 --> 01:04:25,306
worked on this,

2645
01:04:25,306 --> 01:04:26,358
conversations were ongoing with the school

2646
01:04:26,358 --> 01:04:27,474
and they were

2647
01:04:27,474 --> 01:04:28,590
very interested in

2648
01:04:28,590 --> 01:04:29,500
it. One of the

2649
01:04:29,500 --> 01:04:30,620
main reasons was that

2650
01:04:30,620 --> 01:04:31,741
it would provide

2651
01:04:31,741 --> 01:04:32,775
them with an escape route

2652
01:04:32,775 --> 01:04:34,038
in case of an

2653
01:04:34,067 --> 01:04:35,403
emergency. As far as I

2654
01:04:35,403 --> 01:04:36,659
understand, they don't have it right now

2655
01:04:36,659 --> 01:04:40,769
. They

2656
01:04:40,769 --> 01:04:41,801
also tried

2657
01:04:41,801 --> 01:04:43,092
to look into the future

2658
01:04:43,092 --> 01:04:44,060
so that if

2659
01:04:44,060 --> 01:04:45,995
young families moved into a

2660
01:04:46,028 --> 01:04:47,221
nearby housing estate, they would have a

2661
01:04:47,221 --> 01:04:48,512
safe walking

2662
01:04:48,512 --> 01:04:51,572
route to school.

2663
01:04:51,572 --> 01:04:52,881
Or on a bike, or

2664
01:04:52,881 --> 01:04:53,720
whatever.

2665
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:54,694
No, because the residents

2666
01:04:54,694 --> 01:04:56,016
were worried that if

2667
01:04:56,016 --> 01:04:56,956
we put a

2668
01:04:56,956 --> 01:04:58,348
path there, people would start

2669
01:04:58,348 --> 01:04:58,988
walking.

2670
01:04:58,988 --> 01:05:00,948
Yes.

2671
01:05:00,948 --> 01:05:01,927
from that area to

2672
01:05:01,927 --> 01:05:02,776
school, and then they will

2673
01:05:02,776 --> 01:05:04,082
walk along the school

2674
01:05:04,082 --> 01:05:06,966
paths, etc. Are there any

2675
01:05:07,002 --> 01:05:08,677
security issues there? So, I hear

2676
01:05:08,677 --> 01:05:11,767
it from both sides.

2677
01:05:11,767 --> 01:05:12,716
I...there was a lot of...

2678
01:05:12,716 --> 01:05:13,961
I understand there

2679
01:05:13,961 --> 01:05:15,041
was also a lot of

2680
01:05:15,041 --> 01:05:15,893
discussion about the

2681
01:05:15,893 --> 01:05:17,006
general safety of the

2682
01:05:17,006 --> 01:05:18,185
path that goes

2683
01:05:18,185 --> 01:05:19,396
through that wetland

2684
01:05:19,396 --> 01:05:21,387
area, right?

2685
01:05:21,387 --> 01:05:23,948
Yes.

2686
01:05:23,948 --> 01:05:25,081
This is definitely a

2687
01:05:25,081 --> 01:05:26,180
factor to

2688
01:05:26,180 --> 01:05:27,554
consider for people and

2689
01:05:27,554 --> 01:05:29,228
children.

2690
01:05:29,228 --> 01:05:31,695
Yes. I remember that, but I

2691
01:05:31,695 --> 01:05:33,094
also remember that there

2692
01:05:33,094 --> 01:05:33,968
was...it was an

2693
01:05:33,968 --> 01:05:35,226
extremely high

2694
01:05:35,226 --> 01:05:37,332
cost.

2695
01:05:37,332 --> 01:05:37,885
Ugh. I

2696
01:05:37,885 --> 01:05:39,303
don't know if we had an

2697
01:05:39,303 --> 01:05:42,091
official

2698
01:05:42,091 --> 01:05:43,245
I think, if memory

2699
01:05:43,245 --> 01:05:44,300
serves, from

2700
01:05:44,300 --> 01:05:45,059
one of those

2701
01:05:45,059 --> 01:05:46,147
meetings, the project was

2702
01:05:46,147 --> 01:05:47,335
completely rejected

2703
01:05:47,335 --> 01:05:48,621
because of

2704
01:05:48,621 --> 01:05:50,207
wetland procedures.

2705
01:05:50,207 --> 01:05:51,602
Well, I think it's partly

2706
01:05:51,602 --> 01:05:52,644
because of the cost of

2707
01:05:52,644 --> 01:05:53,797
going through this

2708
01:05:53,797 --> 01:05:54,521
process.

2709
01:05:54,521 --> 01:05:55,398
Yes, this very

2710
01:05:55,398 --> 01:05:56,350
process. Yes.

2711
01:05:56,350 --> 01:05:56,882
Ugh.

2712
01:05:56,882 --> 01:05:58,460
Yes. But...but you're

2713
01:05:58,460 --> 01:05:59,550
right. I think that's a

2714
01:05:59,550 --> 01:06:00,509
big part of the

2715
01:06:00,509 --> 01:06:02,052
problem.

2716
01:06:02,052 --> 01:06:03,240
Let me propose an

2717
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,396
unconventional idea,

2718
01:06:04,396 --> 01:06:07,528
okay? On Route 62, there

2719
01:06:07,528 --> 01:06:08,531
's actually an

2720
01:06:08,531 --> 01:06:09,646
overly wide

2721
01:06:09,646 --> 01:06:11,020
emergency

2722
01:06:11,020 --> 01:06:16,772
stop lane there, right? Is it

2723
01:06:16,772 --> 01:06:18,051
possible or advisable

2724
01:06:18,051 --> 01:06:19,297
to install, say,

2725
01:06:19,297 --> 01:06:20,314
a fence that

2726
01:06:20,314 --> 01:06:21,626
would provide sufficient

2727
01:06:21,626 --> 01:06:22,873
width for walking and

2728
01:06:22,873 --> 01:06:23,955
preserve an

2729
01:06:23,955 --> 01:06:27,849
emergency stop lane?

2730
01:06:27,849 --> 01:06:29,124
strip. I

2731
01:06:29,124 --> 01:06:31,161
don't know if it's a state law. I

2732
01:06:31,161 --> 01:06:32,252
think it's a

2733
01:06:32,252 --> 01:06:33,258
state law that

2734
01:06:33,258 --> 01:06:34,125
prohibits

2735
01:06:34,125 --> 01:06:35,270
pedestrian access to

2736
01:06:35,270 --> 01:06:36,502
these highways. You have to

2737
01:06:36,502 --> 01:06:37,394
get permission from the

2738
01:06:37,394 --> 01:06:37,792
state.

2739
01:06:37,792 --> 01:06:38,280
They can

2740
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:39,078
ban as much as they

2741
01:06:39,078 --> 01:06:40,149
want. It still

2742
01:06:40,149 --> 01:06:41,226
happens. And they

2743
01:06:41,226 --> 01:06:41,906
don't enforce it

2744
01:06:41,906 --> 01:06:42,813
and

2745
01:06:42,813 --> 01:06:43,525
don't do anything about it.

2746
01:06:43,525 --> 01:06:44,366
Yeah, but I

2747
01:06:44,366 --> 01:06:45,123
mean we won't

2748
01:06:45,123 --> 01:06:46,105
get the permits

2749
01:06:46,105 --> 01:06:46,806
until they...they would have to

2750
01:06:46,806 --> 01:06:47,844
...We have to

2751
01:06:47,844 --> 01:06:48,629
...They would have to

2752
01:06:48,629 --> 01:06:49,695
do...I don't even

2753
01:06:49,695 --> 01:06:50,833
know if they can.

2754
01:06:50,833 --> 01:06:51,964
So, what can I

2755
01:06:51,964 --> 01:06:53,258
ask? I'm not saying

2756
01:06:53,258 --> 01:06:54,270
we can't ask

2757
01:06:54,270 --> 01:06:54,396
.

2758
01:06:54,396 --> 01:06:55,483
Yes, I was just about to

2759
01:06:55,483 --> 01:06:56,564
say that. I can

2760
01:06:56,564 --> 01:06:57,741
ask. By the way,

2761
01:06:57,741 --> 01:06:58,889
Eric is here today.

2762
01:06:58,889 --> 01:06:59,799
I guess we'll have a

2763
01:06:59,799 --> 01:07:00,819
meeting with the

2764
01:07:00,819 --> 01:07:01,895
state representatives next

2765
01:07:01,895 --> 01:07:02,998
, and that's something I can

2766
01:07:02,998 --> 01:07:04,203
ask them about. Maybe

2767
01:07:04,203 --> 01:07:04,951
with a little

2768
01:07:04,951 --> 01:07:06,011
help from Eric,

2769
01:07:06,011 --> 01:07:07,257
they'll consider this as a

2770
01:07:07,257 --> 01:07:08,472
viable option

2771
01:07:08,472 --> 01:07:10,408
. Here are three options

2772
01:07:10,408 --> 01:07:12,746
. Which we talked about tonight

2773
01:07:12,746 --> 01:07:14,869
.

2774
01:07:14,869 --> 01:07:16,247
Is there an option to involve

2775
01:07:16,247 --> 01:07:17,590
all three participants

2776
01:07:17,590 --> 01:07:18,265
together?

2777
01:07:18,265 --> 01:07:18,930
Of course.

2778
01:07:18,930 --> 01:07:19,926
You know.

2779
01:07:19,926 --> 01:07:20,576
Of course.

2780
01:07:20,576 --> 01:07:22,261
Having Eric, having

2781
01:07:22,261 --> 01:07:23,126
Let me

2782
01:07:23,126 --> 01:07:24,084
clarify, Eric...

2783
01:07:24,084 --> 01:07:25,227
Vince, you're

2784
01:07:25,227 --> 01:07:26,308
off the mic now,

2785
01:07:26,308 --> 01:07:27,390
but is there anything you'd

2786
01:07:27,390 --> 01:07:28,502
like to add or

2787
01:07:28,502 --> 01:07:29,836
say now? Your

2788
01:07:29,836 --> 01:07:31,304
thoughts?

2789
01:07:31,304 --> 01:07:32,091
Yes. Em. I

2790
01:07:32,091 --> 01:07:33,235
don't want to single you out,

2791
01:07:33,235 --> 01:07:34,379
but I will still single you out

2792
01:07:34,379 --> 01:07:34,509
.

2793
01:07:34,509 --> 01:07:36,004
No, don't worry. I, I

2794
01:07:36,004 --> 01:07:37,440
apologize, I'm sorry.

2795
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:38,244
I'm sitting here at the

2796
01:07:38,244 --> 01:07:39,541
dinner table. Thank you

2797
01:07:39,541 --> 01:07:40,701
for letting me

2798
01:07:40,701 --> 01:07:41,563
join at the

2799
01:07:41,563 --> 01:07:43,552
last minute. No, I'm

2800
01:07:43,552 --> 01:07:44,898
grateful you let me in

2801
01:07:44,898 --> 01:07:46,491
. My name is

2802
01:07:46,491 --> 01:07:47,485
Eric Schultz. I

2803
01:07:47,485 --> 01:07:48,686
handle

2804
01:07:48,686 --> 01:07:49,621
transportation issues for the

2805
01:07:49,621 --> 01:07:52,678
senator. I know that

2806
01:07:52,678 --> 01:07:54,097
this project has a long

2807
01:07:54,097 --> 01:07:55,233
history, and a lot of it

2808
01:07:55,233 --> 01:08:00,566
happened before me.

2809
01:08:00,566 --> 01:08:01,701
So I just ask you

2810
01:08:01,701 --> 01:08:02,867
to continue the work

2811
01:08:02,867 --> 01:08:04,032
and be open to

2812
01:08:04,032 --> 01:08:04,738
discussing

2813
01:08:04,738 --> 01:08:05,321
options for

2814
01:08:05,321 --> 01:08:06,425
using this

2815
01:08:06,425 --> 01:08:11,857
funding. Our

2816
01:08:11,857 --> 01:08:13,308
position is clear:

2817
01:08:13,308 --> 01:08:14,718
the senator put

2818
01:08:14,718 --> 01:08:15,505
himself at risk to

2819
01:08:15,505 --> 01:08:16,832
secure this

2820
01:08:16,832 --> 01:08:18,159
$1.6 million in

2821
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:22,096
funding. If

2822
01:08:22,096 --> 01:08:22,842
the term

2823
01:08:22,842 --> 01:08:24,072
expires—which is at

2824
01:08:24,072 --> 01:08:24,855
the end of

2825
01:08:24,855 --> 01:08:26,271
next September—

2826
01:08:26,271 --> 01:08:27,241
that $1.6 million

2827
01:08:27,241 --> 01:08:28,285
will return to

2828
01:08:28,285 --> 01:08:29,739
the Treasury, and we

2829
01:08:29,739 --> 01:08:31,043
won't be able to

2830
01:08:31,043 --> 01:08:32,497
redistribute it

2831
01:08:32,497 --> 01:08:36,706
within the state. So your

2832
01:08:36,706 --> 01:08:38,208
city, like the entire state,

2833
01:08:38,208 --> 01:08:39,209
will lose that

2834
01:08:39,209 --> 01:08:40,480
$1.6 million

2835
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:41,559
earmarked for

2836
01:08:41,559 --> 01:08:42,792
improving our

2837
01:08:42,792 --> 01:08:46,861
infrastructure. I

2838
01:08:46,861 --> 01:08:48,337
like what I

2839
01:08:48,337 --> 01:08:52,153
hear. Vince, can

2840
01:08:52,153 --> 01:08:53,457
you talk about that

2841
01:08:53,457 --> 01:08:54,623
third idea, which is

2842
01:08:54,623 --> 01:08:57,748
downtown? You can

2843
01:08:57,748 --> 01:08:58,444
just...

2844
01:08:58,444 --> 01:08:58,847
Yes.

2845
01:08:58,847 --> 01:09:00,368
Just give me...

2846
01:09:00,368 --> 01:09:02,514
Yes. So, it's in the

2847
01:09:02,514 --> 01:09:06,257
city center. It runs

2848
01:09:06,257 --> 01:09:07,479
along Highway 62, a

2849
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:08,740
small section of

2850
01:09:08,740 --> 01:09:09,961
state highway, the

2851
01:09:09,961 --> 01:09:11,380
intersection

2852
01:09:11,380 --> 01:09:12,759
we always talk about

2853
01:09:12,759 --> 01:09:14,336
near the school that leads to

2854
01:09:14,336 --> 01:09:16,768
Highway 62.

2855
01:09:16,768 --> 01:09:17,788
Yes.

2856
01:09:17,788 --> 01:09:18,703
That's what we're

2857
01:09:18,703 --> 01:09:19,682
talking about, along it

2858
01:09:19,682 --> 01:09:20,661
, and it also

2859
01:09:20,661 --> 01:09:21,923
connects to the road

2860
01:09:21,923 --> 01:09:23,869
to the mall.

2861
01:09:23,869 --> 01:09:25,262
So it runs

2862
01:09:25,262 --> 01:09:26,179
from the road to

2863
01:09:26,179 --> 01:09:27,536
the mall to the

2864
01:09:27,536 --> 01:09:28,967
intersection of Painter and

2865
01:09:28,967 --> 01:09:30,250
Bike North, right next to

2866
01:09:30,250 --> 01:09:34,273
Highway 62. As you just

2867
01:09:34,273 --> 01:09:35,076
heard from the council,

2868
01:09:35,076 --> 01:09:36,313
the biggest challenge

2869
01:09:36,313 --> 01:09:37,456
is getting

2870
01:09:37,456 --> 01:09:38,538
permission from the

2871
01:09:38,538 --> 01:09:39,744
state itself for something like this

2872
01:09:39,744 --> 01:09:41,681
.

2873
01:09:41,681 --> 01:09:43,278
This is considered a

2874
01:09:43,310 --> 01:09:44,881
limited access highway.

2875
01:09:44,881 --> 01:09:46,971
Got it. Got it.

2876
01:09:46,971 --> 01:09:48,046
There are very clear

2877
01:09:48,046 --> 01:09:49,444
rules about what is

2878
01:09:49,444 --> 01:09:51,788
allowed and what is not.

2879
01:09:51,788 --> 01:09:58,181
Yes. Yes. And if we

2880
01:09:58,181 --> 01:09:59,117
go back to the

2881
01:09:59,117 --> 01:10:00,288
original plan,

2882
01:10:00,288 --> 01:10:01,324
so to speak, to the

2883
01:10:01,324 --> 01:10:02,461
original scope of

2884
01:10:02,461 --> 01:10:03,431
this

2885
01:10:03,431 --> 01:10:04,535
mall project,

2886
01:10:04,535 --> 01:10:06,976
Vince, where do you think

2887
01:10:07,009 --> 01:10:13,930
this discussion is at now? Have

2888
01:10:13,930 --> 01:10:15,250
you talked to anyone

2889
01:10:15,250 --> 01:10:16,470
from the mall

2890
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:17,839
lately? And, I

2891
01:10:17,839 --> 01:10:19,155
mean, what do you

2892
01:10:19,155 --> 01:10:20,224
think about that?

2893
01:10:20,224 --> 01:10:21,324
So, since our

2894
01:10:21,324 --> 01:10:22,284
last conversation,

2895
01:10:22,284 --> 01:10:23,385
I haven't been able

2896
01:10:23,385 --> 01:10:24,486
to talk to anyone

2897
01:10:24,486 --> 01:10:25,574
at the mall yet.

2898
01:10:25,574 --> 01:10:27,422
Yes.

2899
01:10:27,422 --> 01:10:28,208
After our

2900
01:10:28,208 --> 01:10:28,897
last

2901
01:10:28,897 --> 01:10:29,815
discussion or

2902
01:10:29,815 --> 01:10:31,094
meeting with the state, I will

2903
01:10:31,094 --> 01:10:32,077
be contacting them

2904
01:10:32,077 --> 01:10:33,061
this week to

2905
01:10:33,061 --> 01:10:33,815
find a time to

2906
01:10:33,815 --> 01:10:34,799
discuss their

2907
01:10:34,799 --> 01:10:35,750
thoughts on that

2908
01:10:35,750 --> 01:10:36,504
initial

2909
01:10:36,504 --> 01:10:37,520
conceptual

2910
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:38,504
plan that was

2911
01:10:38,504 --> 01:10:39,783
proposed earlier

2912
01:10:39,783 --> 01:10:41,624
.

2913
01:10:41,624 --> 01:10:42,441
Of course.

2914
01:10:42,441 --> 01:10:43,698
And what stage are they at

2915
01:10:43,698 --> 01:10:45,699
now?

2916
01:10:45,699 --> 01:10:46,686
I just want to

2917
01:10:46,686 --> 01:10:48,228
point this out, because as I

2918
01:10:48,228 --> 01:10:52,869
understood it, we went

2919
01:10:52,869 --> 01:10:53,632
to the

2920
01:10:53,632 --> 01:10:54,670
sidewalk option because

2921
01:10:54,670 --> 01:10:55,677
we needed to

2922
01:10:55,677 --> 01:10:56,776
spend these funds,

2923
01:10:56,776 --> 01:10:57,600
they were supposed to be

2924
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,326
used this year.

2925
01:10:59,326 --> 01:11:01,997
This fall. And we wouldn't have had

2926
01:11:01,997 --> 01:11:02,867
time, because the

2927
01:11:02,867 --> 01:11:04,124
shopping center chose a

2928
01:11:04,124 --> 01:11:05,317
different option due to the

2929
01:11:05,317 --> 01:11:06,349
large number of

2930
01:11:06,349 --> 01:11:07,600
other projects. They

2931
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:08,619
said that now is not the

2932
01:11:08,619 --> 01:11:09,529
best time to

2933
01:11:09,529 --> 01:11:10,107
implement a

2934
01:11:10,107 --> 01:11:11,237
multi-use

2935
01:11:11,237 --> 01:11:12,345
trail. But this was the

2936
01:11:12,345 --> 01:11:13,573
initial option.

2937
01:11:13,573 --> 01:11:14,295
This is the best-case

2938
01:11:14,295 --> 01:11:15,259
scenario if we

2939
01:11:15,259 --> 01:11:16,404
can get back

2940
01:11:16,404 --> 01:11:16,826
to that

2941
01:11:16,826 --> 01:11:18,061
multi-use

2942
01:11:18,061 --> 01:11:19,209
path. It was about

2943
01:11:19,209 --> 01:11:20,236
her that we conducted

2944
01:11:20,236 --> 01:11:21,601
a survey. I

2945
01:11:21,601 --> 01:11:23,007
mean, at least in

2946
01:11:23,007 --> 01:11:24,435
my opinion. I speak

2947
01:11:24,435 --> 01:11:28,529
only for myself. This is something that has

2948
01:11:28,529 --> 01:11:29,744
already been considered

2949
01:11:29,744 --> 01:11:30,926
and we have already done this

2950
01:11:30,926 --> 01:11:31,822
research or

2951
01:11:31,822 --> 01:11:36,038
preliminary plan. But

2952
01:11:36,038 --> 01:11:36,988
we thought it was a

2953
01:11:36,988 --> 01:11:37,971
matter of

2954
01:11:37,971 --> 01:11:39,258
funding deadlines. So it's

2955
01:11:39,258 --> 01:11:40,650
nice to hear that we

2956
01:11:40,650 --> 01:11:42,989
might be able to.

2957
01:11:42,989 --> 01:11:44,121
Well, Eric, as we were

2958
01:11:44,121 --> 01:11:45,400
saying, I think it's

2959
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:46,852
still a problem, right?

2960
01:11:46,852 --> 01:11:47,995
In a meeting with the state,

2961
01:11:47,995 --> 01:11:49,024
we discussed that

2962
01:11:49,024 --> 01:11:49,739
any

2963
01:11:49,739 --> 01:11:51,282
future direction we take

2964
01:11:51,311 --> 01:11:52,083
will likely require an

2965
01:11:52,083 --> 01:11:53,197
extension of time

2966
01:11:53,197 --> 01:11:54,913
, if possible.

2967
01:11:54,913 --> 01:11:55,990
We are already at the finish

2968
01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:57,227
line, but we still need to

2969
01:11:57,227 --> 01:11:58,431
conduct an environmental

2970
01:11:58,431 --> 01:11:59,255
assessment and

2971
01:11:59,255 --> 01:12:01,994
design work. I

2972
01:12:01,994 --> 01:12:03,347
know you've already invested

2973
01:12:03,347 --> 01:12:04,464
time and money into your

2974
01:12:04,464 --> 01:12:05,682
design and concept,

2975
01:12:05,682 --> 01:12:06,967
but yes, it

2976
01:12:06,967 --> 01:12:08,117
looks that way, and besides,

2977
01:12:08,117 --> 01:12:08,726
nothing is

2978
01:12:08,726 --> 01:12:12,914
guaranteed. You

2979
01:12:12,914 --> 01:12:14,158
know,

2980
01:12:14,158 --> 01:12:14,897
extensions are not

2981
01:12:14,897 --> 01:12:16,140
guaranteed, but we will

2982
01:12:16,140 --> 01:12:17,114
certainly, if

2983
01:12:17,114 --> 01:12:18,189
we can get a

2984
01:12:18,189 --> 01:12:20,608
viable project that

2985
01:12:20,642 --> 01:12:21,851
your council agrees to, do

2986
01:12:21,851 --> 01:12:23,094
everything we can to

2987
01:12:23,094 --> 01:12:27,448
help you. And, as I

2988
01:12:27,448 --> 01:12:28,772
said, we really want to

2989
01:12:28,772 --> 01:12:29,995
keep these funds in the

2990
01:12:29,995 --> 01:12:31,320
state and put

2991
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,339
them to good use, and I'm

2992
01:12:32,339 --> 01:12:35,966
sure you do too.

2993
01:12:35,966 --> 01:12:37,191
Is the shopping

2994
01:12:37,191 --> 01:12:38,383
mall project...I don't

2995
01:12:38,383 --> 01:12:39,278
want to

2996
01:12:39,278 --> 01:12:40,503
embarrass anyone,

2997
01:12:40,503 --> 01:12:41,762
but do you feel

2998
01:12:41,762 --> 01:12:42,822
as a group that you would have a

2999
01:12:42,822 --> 01:12:44,047
consensus on the

3000
01:12:44,047 --> 01:12:45,239
initial scope of

3001
01:12:45,239 --> 01:12:46,167
work if everyone

3002
01:12:46,167 --> 01:12:49,725
agreed to it?

3003
01:12:49,725 --> 01:12:51,087
I'm not even sure if the

3004
01:12:51,087 --> 01:12:52,345
new members saw it.

3005
01:12:52,345 --> 01:12:53,789
Yeah, I saw the original

3006
01:12:53,789 --> 01:12:54,684
when it was

3007
01:12:54,684 --> 01:12:55,283
OK.

3008
01:12:55,283 --> 01:12:56,244
proposed.

3009
01:12:56,244 --> 01:12:56,939
Has the engineering

3010
01:12:56,939 --> 01:12:57,809
design

3011
01:12:57,809 --> 01:12:58,460
been completed yet?

3012
01:12:58,460 --> 01:12:59,242
planning

3013
01:12:59,242 --> 01:13:00,750
No, no, it was just a

3014
01:13:00,750 --> 01:13:01,586
concept.

3015
01:13:01,586 --> 01:13:02,675
We would get

3016
01:13:02,675 --> 01:13:04,539
more.

3017
01:13:04,539 --> 01:13:06,107
Well, actually, that's what I

3018
01:13:06,107 --> 01:13:07,519
was going to say: if

3019
01:13:07,519 --> 01:13:09,088
we move on, you

3020
01:13:09,088 --> 01:13:10,461
know, we just

3021
01:13:10,461 --> 01:13:11,952
spent 168,000 on something that we've

3022
01:13:11,952 --> 01:13:13,011
now

3023
01:13:13,011 --> 01:13:14,540
decided to give up

3024
01:13:14,540 --> 01:13:20,029
. If we do all of

3025
01:13:20,029 --> 01:13:21,103
this and don't get an

3026
01:13:21,103 --> 01:13:22,379
extension on

3027
01:13:22,379 --> 01:13:23,487
these funds, we

3028
01:13:23,487 --> 01:13:24,729
could be facing

3029
01:13:24,729 --> 01:13:25,837
another significant

3030
01:13:25,837 --> 01:13:26,374
amount of

3031
01:13:26,374 --> 01:13:27,381
design work, and to be

3032
01:13:27,381 --> 01:13:28,690
honest, that's a

3033
01:13:28,690 --> 01:13:31,475
little disconcerting to me.

3034
01:13:31,475 --> 01:13:32,403
Yes, that's a valid

3035
01:13:32,403 --> 01:13:33,759
point, and I know,

3036
01:13:33,759 --> 01:13:34,973
Eric, we talked

3037
01:13:34,973 --> 01:13:36,910
about that, right? To

3038
01:13:36,910 --> 01:13:38,208
find out if these

3039
01:13:38,208 --> 01:13:39,474
funds can be used for

3040
01:13:39,474 --> 01:13:40,545
planning and/or

3041
01:13:40,545 --> 01:13:45,386
design.

3042
01:13:45,386 --> 01:13:46,815
Well, you know, we have to take it

3043
01:13:46,815 --> 01:13:48,886
step by step.

3044
01:13:48,886 --> 01:13:50,080
We need to assemble a

3045
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,304
team, we need to

3046
01:13:51,304 --> 01:13:52,253
reach an agreement on the

3047
01:13:52,253 --> 01:13:53,820
project. Um, and all

3048
01:13:53,820 --> 01:13:55,288
I can say is

3049
01:13:55,288 --> 01:13:56,567
, you know, we, as I

3050
01:13:56,567 --> 01:13:57,960
said, our office

3051
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,014
wants the city to

3052
01:13:59,014 --> 01:14:00,520
use this money,

3053
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:01,498
wants it to

3054
01:14:01,498 --> 01:14:02,966
stay in the state, and

3055
01:14:02,966 --> 01:14:04,321
we'll do everything we can

3056
01:14:04,321 --> 01:14:05,450
to

3057
01:14:05,450 --> 01:14:07,172
help. So if

3058
01:14:07,172 --> 01:14:08,479
you want to get together and

3059
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:09,328
get everyone

3060
01:14:09,328 --> 01:14:10,504
involved, I

3061
01:14:10,504 --> 01:14:11,648
worked with

3062
01:14:11,648 --> 01:14:12,726
Vince quite a bit and he was very

3063
01:14:12,726 --> 01:14:14,000
helpful in getting

3064
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,046
people in from the state and

3065
01:14:15,046 --> 01:14:16,026
calling different

3066
01:14:16,026 --> 01:14:17,715
meetings. But if you

3067
01:14:17,715 --> 01:14:18,831
want to call,

3068
01:14:18,831 --> 01:14:20,199
you know, get everyone together

3069
01:14:20,199 --> 01:14:21,171
for a meeting, I'd be

3070
01:14:21,171 --> 01:14:22,575
happy to organize one

3071
01:14:22,575 --> 01:14:23,976
for you.

3072
01:14:23,976 --> 01:14:26,500
This is a great idea.

3073
01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:27,922
Yeah, and, um, just to

3074
01:14:27,922 --> 01:14:29,308
keep, I do, and to keep

3075
01:14:29,308 --> 01:14:30,469
everything, you know,

3076
01:14:30,469 --> 01:14:31,705
open, and if there are

3077
01:14:31,705 --> 01:14:33,090
any concerns,

3078
01:14:33,090 --> 01:14:34,438
let's discuss

3079
01:14:34,438 --> 01:14:35,861
them and make sure

3080
01:14:35,861 --> 01:14:37,022
everyone is, you know,

3081
01:14:37,022 --> 01:14:38,445
hopefully on the same

3082
01:14:38,445 --> 01:14:39,906
page about the project, I'd be

3083
01:14:39,906 --> 01:14:41,179
very happy to do that

3084
01:14:41,179 --> 01:14:44,280
. Um, what I would

3085
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:45,569
suggest or

3086
01:14:45,569 --> 01:14:46,823
what I would hope for is,

3087
01:14:46,823 --> 01:14:48,112
you know, to take, um, I don't

3088
01:14:48,112 --> 01:14:49,262
know if you want to

3089
01:14:49,262 --> 01:14:50,516
bring this up as an

3090
01:14:50,516 --> 01:14:51,735
agenda item for

3091
01:14:51,735 --> 01:14:52,536
one of your

3092
01:14:52,536 --> 01:14:54,700
next meetings.

3093
01:14:54,700 --> 01:14:56,160
It looks like you have

3094
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,556
a lot of work ahead of you. I, um,

3095
01:14:57,556 --> 01:14:58,950
listened to your meeting

3096
01:14:58,950 --> 01:15:00,332
here over dinner.

3097
01:15:00,332 --> 01:15:01,031
But, um, yeah,

3098
01:15:01,031 --> 01:15:01,857
discuss it

3099
01:15:01,857 --> 01:15:03,128
internally, like I said,

3100
01:15:03,128 --> 01:15:04,336
and all I'm asking

3101
01:15:04,336 --> 01:15:05,098
is to keep an

3102
01:15:05,098 --> 01:15:05,924
open mind and

3103
01:15:05,924 --> 01:15:07,005
let's try to

3104
01:15:07,005 --> 01:15:07,831
find a way to

3105
01:15:07,831 --> 01:15:08,975
keep that money in the

3106
01:15:08,975 --> 01:15:10,119
state, and, um, you know,

3107
01:15:10,119 --> 01:15:10,977
hopefully you

3108
01:15:10,977 --> 01:15:12,271
get, uh,

3109
01:15:12,271 --> 01:15:12,734
yeah.

3110
01:15:12,734 --> 01:15:13,779
something that will

3111
01:15:13,779 --> 01:15:15,976
benefit your city.

3112
01:15:15,976 --> 01:15:18,663
Therefore.

3113
01:15:18,663 --> 01:15:20,056
But, Eric, just to

3114
01:15:20,056 --> 01:15:21,381
follow up on that point,

3115
01:15:21,381 --> 01:15:22,775
I think it would be helpful for the council

3116
01:15:22,775 --> 01:15:24,169
to know that

3117
01:15:24,169 --> 01:15:25,423
some of that money,

3118
01:15:25,423 --> 01:15:26,748
if they wanted to,

3119
01:15:26,748 --> 01:15:28,142
we could put toward

3120
01:15:28,142 --> 01:15:29,361
design or

3121
01:15:29,361 --> 01:15:30,651
planning—if we were to

3122
01:15:30,651 --> 01:15:31,696
negotiate a

3123
01:15:31,696 --> 01:15:32,916
project with the

3124
01:15:32,916 --> 01:15:34,275
mall or with the state

3125
01:15:34,275 --> 01:15:35,634
, whether it's Lot 62 or the

3126
01:15:35,634 --> 01:15:39,632
mall, and we could reach an agreement.

3127
01:15:39,632 --> 01:15:40,869
I think that would make a

3128
01:15:40,869 --> 01:15:42,207
significant impression on this

3129
01:15:42,207 --> 01:15:44,448
council. Are

3130
01:15:44,448 --> 01:15:45,375
you now... We're not

3131
01:15:45,375 --> 01:15:46,666
talking about the money

3132
01:15:46,666 --> 01:15:47,957
you've already spent

3133
01:15:47,957 --> 01:15:48,530
?

3134
01:15:48,530 --> 01:15:50,631
No, no. We are talking

3135
01:15:50,631 --> 01:15:52,308
about 1.6 million.

3136
01:15:52,308 --> 01:15:54,059
Yes.

3137
01:15:54,059 --> 01:15:55,287
Can some of this

3138
01:15:55,287 --> 01:15:56,062
money, as we

3139
01:15:56,062 --> 01:15:56,967
discussed with

3140
01:15:56,967 --> 01:15:57,905
the state, also

3141
01:15:57,905 --> 01:15:59,780
be used for planning purposes?

3142
01:16:00,585 --> 01:16:01,870
Planning and design would

3143
01:16:01,870 --> 01:16:02,958
make a significant difference

3144
01:16:02,958 --> 01:16:03,619
.

3145
01:16:03,619 --> 01:16:04,265
OK.

3146
01:16:04,265 --> 01:16:04,933
Of course.

3147
01:16:04,933 --> 01:16:07,729
Yes. And this...

3148
01:16:07,729 --> 01:16:08,620
And I just want to

3149
01:16:08,620 --> 01:16:09,704
say that I think

3150
01:16:09,704 --> 01:16:10,882
the school is a very important

3151
01:16:10,882 --> 01:16:12,125
potential project

3152
01:16:12,125 --> 01:16:13,590
, but we're not yet far enough along to make

3153
01:16:14,896 --> 01:16:17,594
it a reality.

3154
01:16:17,594 --> 01:16:18,856
Especially considering

3155
01:16:18,856 --> 01:16:22,501
environmental permits.

3156
01:16:22,501 --> 01:16:23,647
And the thing is, I don't

3157
01:16:23,647 --> 01:16:24,727
know, given the

3158
01:16:24,727 --> 01:16:26,042
last vote,

3159
01:16:26,042 --> 01:16:26,986
how this will affect the

3160
01:16:26,986 --> 01:16:28,032
matter, whether this should

3161
01:16:28,032 --> 01:16:29,246
now be considered by the

3162
01:16:29,246 --> 01:16:30,258
entire supervisory

3163
01:16:30,258 --> 01:16:32,664
union.

3164
01:16:32,664 --> 01:16:34,157
I'm sure it is.

3165
01:16:34,157 --> 01:16:34,806
Of course, it will

3166
01:16:34,806 --> 01:16:36,071
have to, because now,

3167
01:16:36,071 --> 01:16:36,720
after that

3168
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,019
vote, it must

3169
01:16:38,019 --> 01:16:38,862
be approved by

3170
01:16:38,862 --> 01:16:39,966
a vote of all

3171
01:16:39,966 --> 01:16:40,683
five cities.

3172
01:16:40,683 --> 01:16:41,752
At the moment.

3173
01:16:41,752 --> 01:16:42,150
Yes.

3174
01:16:42,150 --> 01:16:43,246
So, maybe that

3175
01:16:43,246 --> 01:16:44,024
project has

3176
01:16:44,024 --> 01:16:45,262
been shelved for now, but the 62nd

3177
01:16:45,262 --> 01:16:46,500
is still

3178
01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:47,485
viable.

3179
01:16:47,485 --> 01:16:48,241
That's right.

3180
01:16:48,241 --> 01:16:48,866
And the original

3181
01:16:48,866 --> 01:16:50,972
concept is certainly still

3182
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:51,698
relevant.

3183
01:16:51,698 --> 01:16:52,077
Yes.

3184
01:16:52,077 --> 01:16:52,928
And if I

3185
01:16:52,928 --> 01:16:53,881
remember correctly, there weren't that

3186
01:16:53,881 --> 01:16:54,382
many

3187
01:16:54,382 --> 01:16:54,958
environmental

3188
01:16:54,958 --> 01:16:55,935
implications, at least

3189
01:16:55,935 --> 01:16:56,512
for one of the

3190
01:16:56,512 --> 01:16:57,464
design options. The

3191
01:16:57,464 --> 01:16:58,166
impact on

3192
01:16:58,166 --> 01:16:58,972
wetlands in

3193
01:16:58,972 --> 01:16:59,961
the initial design of the

3194
01:16:59,961 --> 01:17:01,028
multi-use

3195
01:17:01,028 --> 01:17:01,600
trail was

3196
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:02,556
minimal. So

3197
01:17:02,556 --> 01:17:03,588
hopefully it won't

3198
01:17:03,588 --> 01:17:04,108
happen... That

3199
01:17:04,108 --> 01:17:04,846
's right. ... a

3200
01:17:04,846 --> 01:17:05,872
serious obstacle

3201
01:17:05,872 --> 01:17:06,539
to obtaining

3202
01:17:06,539 --> 01:17:07,075
permits.

3203
01:17:07,075 --> 01:17:07,630
Good.

3204
01:17:07,630 --> 01:17:09,365
But I think that's the whole point of a

3205
01:17:09,390 --> 01:17:10,195
city center—

3206
01:17:10,195 --> 01:17:11,176
to make it

3207
01:17:11,176 --> 01:17:11,931
pedestrian-friendly.

3208
01:17:11,931 --> 01:17:13,022
Well, that was one of the

3209
01:17:13,022 --> 01:17:14,206
discussion topics

3210
01:17:14,206 --> 01:17:14,861
I wanted to

3211
01:17:14,861 --> 01:17:15,952
suggest, but

3212
01:17:15,952 --> 01:17:17,106
since it came up

3213
01:17:17,106 --> 01:17:18,322
tonight, I'd

3214
01:17:18,322 --> 01:17:19,475
really like to have a

3215
01:17:19,475 --> 01:17:20,629
meeting with the

3216
01:17:20,629 --> 01:17:23,665
mall. And find out

3217
01:17:23,665 --> 01:17:26,128
what their plans are. We, as a

3218
01:17:26,128 --> 01:17:26,969
city, have invested a lot

3219
01:17:26,969 --> 01:17:28,280
in

3220
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,188
making that entire

3221
01:17:29,188 --> 01:17:30,197
area our

3222
01:17:30,197 --> 01:17:33,127
city center.

3223
01:17:33,127 --> 01:17:33,800
You know, we were

3224
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,147
hoping they

3225
01:17:35,147 --> 01:17:36,317
would be built, and we

3226
01:17:36,317 --> 01:17:37,700
would like to understand

3227
01:17:37,700 --> 01:17:38,727
their position.

3228
01:17:38,727 --> 01:17:39,275
Yes.

3229
01:17:39,275 --> 01:17:40,359
And I would also like to

3230
01:17:40,359 --> 01:17:41,268
go to the

3231
01:17:41,268 --> 01:17:42,428
hospital, you know.

3232
01:17:42,428 --> 01:17:43,907
Yes.

3233
01:17:43,907 --> 01:17:44,476
Because we had already

3234
01:17:44,476 --> 01:17:45,782
discussed before

3235
01:17:45,782 --> 01:17:47,054
that they would help with a

3236
01:17:47,054 --> 01:17:48,360
certain construction,

3237
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:49,700
and I would like to know what's going on

3238
01:17:49,700 --> 01:17:52,945
with that plot.

3239
01:17:52,945 --> 01:17:54,230
I think now is the right

3240
01:17:54,230 --> 01:17:55,290
time for us as a

3241
01:17:55,290 --> 01:17:56,543
council to reach out

3242
01:17:56,543 --> 01:17:57,347
to these two

3243
01:17:57,347 --> 01:17:58,568
major

3244
01:17:58,568 --> 01:17:59,821
property owners in our

3245
01:17:59,821 --> 01:18:02,710
city. I think

3246
01:18:02,710 --> 01:18:04,062
we put a lot of effort into

3247
01:18:04,062 --> 01:18:05,042
getting this

3248
01:18:05,042 --> 01:18:05,921
appointment and

3249
01:18:05,921 --> 01:18:09,873
moving forward. And

3250
01:18:09,873 --> 01:18:10,945
then we had to

3251
01:18:10,945 --> 01:18:12,170
urgently move

3252
01:18:12,170 --> 01:18:13,149
this project to another

3253
01:18:13,149 --> 01:18:14,374
location because they weren't

3254
01:18:14,374 --> 01:18:19,525
ready to continue.

3255
01:18:19,525 --> 01:18:20,863
Therefore, I want to understand

3256
01:18:20,863 --> 01:18:21,833
their plans for

3257
01:18:21,833 --> 01:18:23,037
further development

3258
01:18:23,037 --> 01:18:24,275
and investment, because,

3259
01:18:24,275 --> 01:18:25,446
in my opinion, the city

3260
01:18:25,446 --> 01:18:26,516
has spent a lot of

3261
01:18:26,516 --> 01:18:27,821
time, effort, and money

3262
01:18:27,821 --> 01:18:30,158
on this.

3263
01:18:30,158 --> 01:18:31,257
Tell me, where would you

3264
01:18:31,257 --> 01:18:32,591
like to invite them?

3265
01:18:32,591 --> 01:18:33,640
Can I make

3266
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:34,558
a suggestion? I'm not

3267
01:18:34,558 --> 01:18:35,578
sure they will

3268
01:18:35,578 --> 01:18:36,749
publicly come to the

3269
01:18:36,749 --> 01:18:37,949
meeting to talk

3270
01:18:37,949 --> 01:18:39,062
about their plans. I would

3271
01:18:39,062 --> 01:18:40,279
advise the city, if

3272
01:18:40,279 --> 01:18:41,598
you want to meet

3273
01:18:41,598 --> 01:18:42,848
with them, in person or

3274
01:18:42,848 --> 01:18:45,099
otherwise,

3275
01:18:45,099 --> 01:18:46,501
no, I'm not saying, and I'm not

3276
01:18:46,501 --> 01:18:47,904
saying we should

3277
01:18:47,904 --> 01:18:48,325
have

3278
01:18:48,325 --> 01:18:51,765
Yes, no, I just

3279
01:18:51,765 --> 01:18:53,215
think there are conversations that are

3280
01:18:53,215 --> 01:18:54,322
worth having,

3281
01:18:54,322 --> 01:18:55,506
especially if we're

3282
01:18:55,506 --> 01:18:56,307
going to

3283
01:18:56,307 --> 01:18:57,338
invest 1.6

3284
01:18:57,338 --> 01:18:58,330
million plus

3285
01:18:58,330 --> 01:18:59,628
city spending in this

3286
01:18:59,628 --> 01:19:00,697
mall area

3287
01:19:00,697 --> 01:19:05,362
. Because, look,

3288
01:19:05,362 --> 01:19:06,233
let's be

3289
01:19:06,233 --> 01:19:07,353
honest, this is their

3290
01:19:07,353 --> 01:19:08,525
property. After all,

3291
01:19:08,525 --> 01:19:09,698
this is their territory where

3292
01:19:09,698 --> 01:19:10,689
we are laying this

3293
01:19:10,689 --> 01:19:11,862
multi-use

3294
01:19:11,862 --> 01:19:13,592
path. What is the

3295
01:19:13,592 --> 01:19:14,432
future of their

3296
01:19:14,432 --> 01:19:15,955
site? If we

3297
01:19:15,955 --> 01:19:16,864
went for it.

3298
01:19:16,864 --> 01:19:18,004
the city as a whole.

3299
01:19:18,004 --> 01:19:19,621
No, and I understand that.

3300
01:19:19,621 --> 01:19:20,296
Yes, we are

3301
01:19:20,296 --> 01:19:21,410
taxed too.

3302
01:19:21,410 --> 01:19:23,188
no, and I'm not saying no,

3303
01:19:23,188 --> 01:19:25,635
but we

3304
01:19:25,635 --> 01:19:26,465
When you have a

3305
01:19:26,465 --> 01:19:27,678
minute this week,

3306
01:19:27,678 --> 01:19:28,923
write to me, what

3307
01:19:28,923 --> 01:19:29,817
suits you, and we

3308
01:19:29,817 --> 01:19:30,966
will schedule a meeting

3309
01:19:30,966 --> 01:19:31,892
for you and me with the

3310
01:19:31,892 --> 01:19:32,690
management of the

3311
01:19:32,690 --> 01:19:33,839
shopping center, and

3312
01:19:33,839 --> 01:19:35,085
another with the management of

3313
01:19:35,085 --> 01:19:36,836
the hospital.

3314
01:19:36,836 --> 01:19:39,221
Two separate meetings.

3315
01:19:39,221 --> 01:19:40,305
Yes, I agree.

3316
01:19:40,305 --> 01:19:41,030
Yes, yes.

3317
01:19:41,030 --> 01:19:42,009
We will go there.

3318
01:19:42,009 --> 01:19:42,397
Yes.

3319
01:19:42,397 --> 01:19:43,282
And, uh,

3320
01:19:43,282 --> 01:19:43,681
Yes. to

3321
01:19:43,681 --> 01:19:44,815
get out of the cage.

3322
01:19:44,815 --> 01:19:45,226
Yes.

3323
01:19:45,226 --> 01:19:46,556
I just think we

3324
01:19:46,556 --> 01:19:47,521
all need to have a

3325
01:19:47,521 --> 01:19:48,753
common understanding.

3326
01:19:48,753 --> 01:19:49,331
Yes.

3327
01:19:49,331 --> 01:19:50,779
We

3328
01:19:50,779 --> 01:19:51,465
Of course.

3329
01:19:51,465 --> 01:19:53,005
No, I don't object.

3330
01:19:53,005 --> 01:19:55,591
evolve. We have

3331
01:19:55,591 --> 01:19:56,673
two fairly large

3332
01:19:56,673 --> 01:19:57,722
parts of the city that

3333
01:19:57,722 --> 01:19:58,803
belong to these two

3334
01:19:58,803 --> 01:20:00,848
entities. I think we

3335
01:20:00,848 --> 01:20:01,989
all need to act in a

3336
01:20:01,989 --> 01:20:02,667
coordinated manner,

3337
01:20:02,667 --> 01:20:03,839
wondering where we are

3338
01:20:03,839 --> 01:20:05,769
headed. So.

3339
01:20:05,769 --> 01:20:06,525
Yes.

3340
01:20:06,525 --> 01:20:07,920
What's going on with

3341
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:08,749
the hospital there?

3342
01:20:08,749 --> 01:20:10,181
Yes, I heard something.

3343
01:20:10,181 --> 01:20:11,221
They are not

3344
01:20:11,221 --> 01:20:15,051
MGM.

3345
01:20:15,051 --> 01:20:16,238
it's about it's

3346
01:20:16,238 --> 01:20:16,531
about

3347
01:20:16,531 --> 01:20:17,436
Yes, it's a complicated

3348
01:20:17,436 --> 01:20:18,870
question. Yes, but

3349
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:19,683
something worth

3350
01:20:19,683 --> 01:20:20,344
talking about

3351
01:20:20,344 --> 01:20:20,876
So it

3352
01:20:20,876 --> 01:20:21,720
won't hurt.

3353
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:22,341
I think it would

3354
01:20:22,341 --> 01:20:23,376
n't hurt to have

3355
01:20:23,376 --> 01:20:24,149
something to talk about.

3356
01:20:24,149 --> 01:20:24,513
Yes.

3357
01:20:24,513 --> 01:20:25,398
No, no, no, I'm not saying

3358
01:20:25,398 --> 01:20:26,381
you can't talk to them

3359
01:20:26,381 --> 01:20:27,270
. Ask

3360
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:27,769
if they want

3361
01:20:27,769 --> 01:20:28,509
to connect because they

3362
01:20:28,509 --> 01:20:28,990
once wanted to

3363
01:20:28,990 --> 01:20:29,675
connect their path,

3364
01:20:29,675 --> 01:20:30,341
or we talked about

3365
01:20:30,341 --> 01:20:30,914
connecting their

3366
01:20:30,914 --> 01:20:31,451
paths with other

3367
01:20:31,451 --> 01:20:31,987
paths further down the

3368
01:20:31,987 --> 01:20:33,122
road. So that's a different

3369
01:20:33,122 --> 01:20:33,563
topic.

3370
01:20:33,563 --> 01:20:34,345
Of course.

3371
01:20:34,345 --> 01:20:35,686
Um, I'm grateful you

3372
01:20:35,686 --> 01:20:37,054
came. It's really nice

3373
01:20:37,054 --> 01:20:37,573
to hear this

3374
01:20:37,573 --> 01:20:38,555
directly from

3375
01:20:38,555 --> 01:20:38,858
you.

3376
01:20:38,858 --> 01:20:40,231
Yes, thank you very much.

3377
01:20:40,231 --> 01:20:41,741
Yes, I'm glad. I'm

3378
01:20:41,741 --> 01:20:42,780
more than happy

3379
01:20:42,780 --> 01:20:44,177
to join in, um, when

3380
01:20:44,177 --> 01:20:49,326
needed. And as I

3381
01:20:49,326 --> 01:20:50,431
said, if there's

3382
01:20:50,431 --> 01:20:51,570
anything I can

3383
01:20:51,570 --> 01:20:52,910
help with, like

3384
01:20:52,910 --> 01:20:53,848
bringing other

3385
01:20:53,848 --> 01:20:54,652
partners to the

3386
01:20:54,652 --> 01:20:55,858
meeting or if I

3387
01:20:55,858 --> 01:20:57,031
can reach out to

3388
01:20:57,031 --> 01:20:57,868
my colleagues in

3389
01:20:57,868 --> 01:20:58,974
Washington on

3390
01:20:58,974 --> 01:21:00,046
any federal

3391
01:21:00,046 --> 01:21:01,084
issues that would be

3392
01:21:01,084 --> 01:21:01,855
helpful, please don't

3393
01:21:01,855 --> 01:21:03,161
hesitate to reach out

3394
01:21:03,161 --> 01:21:07,574
. And, um, yes, I would

3395
01:21:07,574 --> 01:21:08,840
encourage such

3396
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:10,720
meetings. And the last thing

3397
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,091
I'll say is: there's not

3398
01:21:12,091 --> 01:21:13,428
much leeway here in how

3399
01:21:13,428 --> 01:21:14,834
it's written,

3400
01:21:14,834 --> 01:21:15,889
but it's written in the

3401
01:21:15,889 --> 01:21:20,224
law. So the funds

3402
01:21:20,224 --> 01:21:20,875
should be

3403
01:21:20,875 --> 01:21:22,146
used

3404
01:21:22,146 --> 01:21:23,058
downtown, in downtown

3405
01:21:23,058 --> 01:21:24,003
Burlington, for

3406
01:21:24,003 --> 01:21:24,915
bike or

3407
01:21:24,915 --> 01:21:25,534
pedestrian

3408
01:21:25,534 --> 01:21:26,772
infrastructure, but

3409
01:21:26,772 --> 01:21:27,847
with that in mind, I would

3410
01:21:27,847 --> 01:21:28,564
advise you

3411
01:21:28,564 --> 01:21:29,183
to keep

3412
01:21:29,183 --> 01:21:30,063
an open mind and

3413
01:21:30,063 --> 01:21:31,008
maybe be creative

3414
01:21:31,008 --> 01:21:32,148
about how to

3415
01:21:32,148 --> 01:21:33,451
spend that money and

3416
01:21:33,451 --> 01:21:37,838
improve your city.

3417
01:21:37,838 --> 01:21:39,172
Perfectly. Thank you.

3418
01:21:39,172 --> 01:21:40,195
very much.

3419
01:21:40,195 --> 01:21:41,766
Thank you. I appreciate it.

3420
01:21:41,766 --> 01:21:42,552
Please.

3421
01:21:42,552 --> 01:21:43,287
We'll

3422
01:21:43,287 --> 01:21:43,960
talk again soon.

3423
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:44,932
Good evening.

3424
01:21:44,932 --> 01:21:46,218
Okay, good evening

3425
01:21:46,218 --> 01:21:47,027
. Thank you.

3426
01:21:47,027 --> 01:21:48,789
Sara. Take care of

3427
01:21:48,789 --> 01:21:50,568
yourself. That's

3428
01:21:50,568 --> 01:21:51,825
all I have for the

3429
01:21:51,825 --> 01:21:54,053
roundtable. Are there

3430
01:21:54,053 --> 01:21:55,131
any other questions for the

3431
01:21:55,131 --> 01:21:57,183
roundtable?

3432
01:21:57,183 --> 01:21:58,422
I wanted to ask about the

3433
01:21:58,422 --> 01:22:00,386
Perry Hotel. What is

3434
01:22:00,386 --> 01:22:01,399
the status?

3435
01:22:01,399 --> 01:22:02,324
Sold Out.

3436
01:22:02,324 --> 01:22:03,364
I know, but I wanted to

3437
01:22:03,364 --> 01:22:04,573
make sure because I didn't

3438
01:22:04,573 --> 01:22:05,715
hear anything from our

3439
01:22:05,715 --> 01:22:06,957
last conversation.

3440
01:22:06,957 --> 01:22:07,941
I don't know when they'll

3441
01:22:07,941 --> 01:22:08,516
start

3442
01:22:08,516 --> 01:22:09,528
construction or

3443
01:22:09,528 --> 01:22:09,875
anything.

3444
01:22:09,875 --> 01:22:10,997
No, I didn't expect

3445
01:22:10,997 --> 01:22:11,998
you to know, but everything has been going according to

3446
01:22:11,998 --> 01:22:12,908
plan since

3447
01:22:12,908 --> 01:22:13,696
our

3448
01:22:13,696 --> 01:22:14,828
last conversation.

3449
01:22:14,828 --> 01:22:16,085
No problems after

3450
01:22:16,085 --> 01:22:16,540
that.

3451
01:22:16,540 --> 01:22:21,051
OK. Thank you. Oh, that

3452
01:22:21,051 --> 01:22:22,210
was good news,

3453
01:22:22,210 --> 01:22:22,549
right?

3454
01:22:22,549 --> 01:22:23,488
good news.

3455
01:22:23,488 --> 01:22:24,359
Very good.

3456
01:22:24,359 --> 01:22:25,520
news.

3457
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,219
Yeah, I'm just me. No

3458
01:22:27,219 --> 01:22:28,800
, I mean, oh,

3459
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:29,944
never mind.

3460
01:22:29,944 --> 01:22:31,748
So, by the way, right?

3461
01:22:31,748 --> 01:22:33,144
If you notice a

3462
01:22:33,144 --> 01:22:33,832
skating rink here,

3463
01:22:33,832 --> 01:22:35,073
yes.

3464
01:22:35,073 --> 01:22:37,203
It's all raised up.

3465
01:22:37,203 --> 01:22:38,633
I didn't have any.

3466
01:22:38,633 --> 01:22:40,850
We hopefully saved a little

3467
01:22:40,887 --> 01:22:42,106
by moving the soil from

3468
01:22:42,106 --> 01:22:44,581
another place here.

3469
01:22:44,581 --> 01:22:45,955
To raise the level.

3470
01:22:45,955 --> 01:22:47,114
Again, not that

3471
01:22:47,114 --> 01:22:47,966
we want to

3472
01:22:47,966 --> 01:22:49,227
talk about the

3473
01:22:49,227 --> 01:22:50,557
skating rink project, but during

3474
01:22:50,557 --> 01:22:51,682
that discussion,

3475
01:22:51,682 --> 01:22:52,978
it seems that the

3476
01:22:52,978 --> 01:22:54,307
amount discussed was between 30 and 50 thousand

3477
01:22:54,307 --> 01:22:55,466
to do everything

3478
01:22:55,466 --> 01:22:56,728
right; but we did

3479
01:22:56,728 --> 01:22:57,819
it for free and

3480
01:22:57,819 --> 01:22:58,569
hopefully

3481
01:22:58,569 --> 01:22:59,387
saved on the

3482
01:22:59,387 --> 01:23:00,478
earthworks

3483
01:23:00,478 --> 01:23:01,908
near the city garage.

3484
01:23:01,908 --> 01:23:03,230
Great, I didn't know.

3485
01:23:03,230 --> 01:23:04,269
Yes, take a look when you go

3486
01:23:04,269 --> 01:23:05,393
out. It's

3487
01:23:05,393 --> 01:23:06,344
almost level with

3488
01:23:06,344 --> 01:23:07,296
the parking lot, and they're

3489
01:23:07,296 --> 01:23:08,680
not finished yet. That's it.

3490
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,161
Class, sounds good.

3491
01:23:10,161 --> 01:23:11,220
Oh, and those old

3492
01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:12,450
dangerous sides are

3493
01:23:12,450 --> 01:23:13,842
gone.

3494
01:23:13,842 --> 01:23:14,801
Good.

3495
01:23:14,801 --> 01:23:16,265
So. We live on.

3496
01:23:16,265 --> 01:23:21,475
Good news. OK.

3497
01:23:21,475 --> 01:23:22,608
Finished?

3498
01:23:22,608 --> 01:23:23,408
Ahem.

3499
01:23:23,408 --> 01:23:25,511
Yes. Yes, sir.

3500
01:23:25,511 --> 01:23:26,525
I'm done.

3501
01:23:26,525 --> 01:23:27,119
Good. Do

3502
01:23:27,119 --> 01:23:28,499
you have a question?

3503
01:23:28,499 --> 01:23:29,316
No.

3504
01:23:29,316 --> 01:23:31,298
Chris?

3505
01:23:31,298 --> 01:23:32,655
I'll probably

3506
01:23:32,655 --> 01:23:35,023
hold off for now. I don't want

3507
01:23:35,023 --> 01:23:36,235
my words to be

3508
01:23:36,235 --> 01:23:37,745
taken out of context again.

3509
01:23:37,745 --> 01:23:38,478
Got it.

3510
01:23:38,478 --> 01:23:39,060
Good.

3511
01:23:39,060 --> 01:23:40,521
I think I'll put it off until

3512
01:23:40,521 --> 01:23:41,401
later.

3513
01:23:41,401 --> 01:23:42,735
Yes, well, I'm

3514
01:23:42,735 --> 01:23:43,958
Yes, I'm fine.

3515
01:23:43,958 --> 01:23:44,564
OK.

3516
01:23:44,564 --> 01:23:45,638
Okay, okay.

3517
01:23:45,638 --> 01:23:46,471
No closed

3518
01:23:46,471 --> 01:23:47,600
meetings, right?

3519
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:48,457
No, no.

3520
01:23:48,457 --> 01:23:50,805
Yes, it's yours.

3521
01:23:50,805 --> 01:23:51,930
This is an option.

3522
01:23:51,930 --> 01:23:52,738
John. I

3523
01:23:52,738 --> 01:23:54,122
support.

3524
01:23:54,122 --> 01:23:55,012
Who is for it?

3525
01:23:55,012 --> 01:23:56,045
I.

3526
01:23:56,045 --> 01:23:57,497
Against? The meeting

3527
01:23:57,497 --> 01:23:59,080
is closed.