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Good evening. We're going to call to
order the uh September 9th, 2026 regular

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meeting of the zoning uh board of
adjustment for the township of Bernards.

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And the first item on the agenda is the
flag salute. May I ask you please stand

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if you can?

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United States
for its

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indivisible.

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In accordance with the requirements of
the open public meetings law, notice of

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this meeting of the board of adjustment
of the township of Burners was posted on

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the bulletin board in the reception hall
of the of the municipal building, Kier

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Lane, Basking Ridge, New Jersey. Was
mailed to the Burnersville News,

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Whippony, New Jersey, Curry Courier
News, Bridgewater, New Jersey, and was

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filed with the township clerk all on
January 8th, 2026. and was mailed

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electronically to all those people who
have requested individual notice. The

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following procedure has been adopted by
the Bernard's Township Zoning Board of

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Adjustment. There will be no new cases
heard after 10 p.m. and no new testimony

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heard after 10:30 p.m.

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» Uh, Miss Layman, would you uh do the
roll call, please?

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» Chairwoman Bowman
>> here.

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» Miss Dandrea,
>> here. Mr. Krauss

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» here.
>> Mr. Leazinski

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» here.
>> Mr. Lindamman

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» here.
>> Miss Pear

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» here.
>> Miss Silver

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» here.
>> Miss Trap

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» here.
>> Mr. Soi

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» here.
>> Mr. Quinn

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» here.
>> Mr. Schly

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» here.
>> And for the record, Miss Layman is

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present. Madam Chair, you have a quorum
and may proceed.

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» Thank you, Miss Slayman. Um, for the
approval of the minutes, were the July

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16th minutes circulated to everyone?
>> No, they were not. Okay, we can skip

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those. So, um, we'll hold those to the
next meeting. Um, the August 5th, 2026

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regular section session minutes. Um, do
we have anyone who's not eligible to

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vote on those?
>> Only three people can vote on them. Miss

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Dandrea, Mr. Krauss, and you?
>> Okay. Um, so did everybody have a chance

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to read uh the minutes? Does anybody
have any comments or concerns?

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Seeing none, we have one.
>> Would you like to make a motion? Um,

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so then all those in favor of approving
the minutes. Oh, do we have to make a

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motion?
>> I'll make a motion to approve as

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drafted.
>> And Miss

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» I'll second.
>> And Mr. Carlson and Mr. Andrea. All

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those in favor?
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» um Okay. So then the approval of the
resolutions, I think we have a similar

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» That's correct. for Allan it's only uh
Miss Dandrea, Mr. Krauss, Miss Par and

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and you madam chair
>> but for all of them um Miss Trap is

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eligible for the other four.
>> Okay,

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» she got here late that one.
>> Right. Okay. So then for the approval of

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resolutions we have Allan Steven and
Christy block 3302 lot 10 6 castle way

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ZB26-00006.

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Um, do we have a motion to approve that
uh resolution as drafted? Changes,

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amendments.
>> Motion to approve as drafted.

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» I was
okay. Sorry, Miss

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» Pear. No, it's okay.
>> Down when you said it the first time.

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» So, Miss Slayman,
>> Miss Dandrea,

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» yes.
>> Mr. Krauss,

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» yes.
>> Miss Pear,

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» yes. Chairwoman Bowman.
>> Yes.

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» Um and then for Rothbard Jared and Lena
Marray, block 4102, lot 14, 17, Wayne

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Terrace, ZB26-00003.
Motion to approve as drafted. Any

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amendments, changes?
>> I'll make a motion to approve as

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drafted.
>> Second,

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Mr. Andrea.
>> Thank you, Miss Andrea. Miss Layman.

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» Mr. Dandrea.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Krauss.
>> Yes.

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» Miss Pear.
>> Yes.

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» Miss Trap.
>> Yes. Chairwoman Bowman.

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» Yes.
>> Thank you.

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» Uh for Cox, Shaun R. and Katherine E.
Block 6303, lot 8 33 Feeasant Run Drive,

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ZB26-015.

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Motion to approve as drafted.
>> I'll make a motion to approve as

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drafted.
>> Second,

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» Par and Mr. Krauss.
>> Miss Dandrea.

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» Yes.
>> Mr. Krauss.

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» Yes.
>> Miss Pear.

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» Yes.
>> Miss Trap.

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» Yes.
>> Chairwoman Bowman.

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» Yes.
>> Thank you. Uh for Clayton, we have one

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edit. Um did we say that was on page
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» It was page nine. Uh
>> oh, paragraph 30. Item under small Roman

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numeral 2

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private
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I think this work.

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» Hold on. Slight technical difficulty.
Hang on.

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» Yeah, it was Rothart.
>> Okay.

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» Get through Clayton and then we'll go
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» Okay. So, Clayton.
>> Clayton's good. No issues with

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» Clayton. Kevin Owl and Lisa A. Block
1803, lot 12, 191 South Finley Avenue,

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ZB26 017.
Uh, motion to approve as drafted.

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» Motion to approve as drafted.
>> Thank you, Mr. Andrea.

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» I'll second that.
>> And Miss Par.

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» Miss Drea.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Krauss.
>> Yes.

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» Miss Pear.
>> Yes.

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» Miss Trap.
>> Yes.

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» Chairwoman Bowman.
>> Yes.

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» Thank you.
>> I'll just note um there was supposed to

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be a correction made to Rothbart. Um on
page nine item two sub item Roman

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numeral line three uh there was a
parenthesis around the letter P first

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line there or the third line I'm sorry
that and then on the fourth line in that

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paragraph
space between 30 and feet that just

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needs
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formally but the board could just make a
motion to amend that resolution.

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» Okay. Can I have a motion to amend the
Rothbard resolution?

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» Motion to amend
>> with the um typos, minor typos.

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» Typos changed.
>> Second.

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» And Miss Par. Mr. Kra and Miss Par.

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» Drea.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Krauss.
>> Yes.

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» Miss Trap.
>> Yes.

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» Chairwoman Bowman.
>> Yes.

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» No problem. Um, and then the last
resolution is the Gallow resolution,

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David and Alexandra, block 1902, lot 28,
20 Vorhees Drive, ZB26-016.

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Motion to approve as drafted.
>> Motion to approve as drafted.

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» Krauss.
>> Second.

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» Dandrea.
>> Dandrea.

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» Yes.
>> Mr. Krauss. Miss Pear.

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» Yes.
>> Miss Trap.

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» Yes.
>> Chairwoman Bowman.

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» Yes.
>> Thank you.

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» All right. Next on the agenda is the
completeness hearing for uh SIG CI Mount

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Ary LLC block 2401 lot 3 180 to 188
Mount Airy Road major subdivision bulk

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variances and Dvariances for conditional
use and F ZB25-035.

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Do we have anybody here from that
application? Uh seeing none and from Mr.

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Schl your memo they have um turned in
everything that was required at this

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time.
>> I said the board previously deemed this

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incomplete a couple times. The board
granted a couple waiverss. At this point

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um the applicant has submitted
everything that was not waved.

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» Okay. Anybody have any comments,
questions? Motion to application

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complete.

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I'll second
>> Dr. or Mr. Krauss.

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» Mr. Krauss.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. I'm sorry. Mr. Leazinski.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Lindamman.
>> Yes.

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» Miss Pear.
>> Yes.

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» Miss Silver.
>> Yes.

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» Miss Trap.
>> Yes.

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» Chairwoman Bowman.
>> Yes.

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» Thank you.
>> Um, thank you.

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Before

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we get into the meat and potatoes of the
meeting, um just want to note uh there

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were three applications on tonight's
agenda. 59, 87, and 93 South Finley

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LLC's.
Um we received uh communications to

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their attorney that they're going to
revise and resubmit their application.

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Uh they were seeking an appeal of the
zoning officer's decision and they're

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going to be resubmitting the application
as a just a request for variance relief.

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They did provide notice several months
ago, but based on the very nature of

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their application changing. Um, we're
going to require that they redo their

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notice appropriately for the the type of
relief being requested now instead of

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before. So, just want to note that if
anyone's here for those applications,

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the that's again that's the 59 South
Finley LLC, 87 South Finley LLC, 93

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South Finley LLC applications. It's not
going to be heard tonight. I think we're

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probably going to try to pick it up in
October. Joanne, correct me if I'm

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wrong. South
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» right,

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right.

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Okay.
Gotcha. All right. Just want to let only

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reason I bring it up. Just want to say
if there is any members of the public

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here for that. Uh the hearing on that's
going to be uh to be determined as at

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this point. So
>> is there an expectation

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» for work so we don't have to continue to

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» Okay.

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Um, okay. Are you finished?
>> Yeah, that's it. Just letting everybody

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know we're not hearing that tonight and
we don't need to carry it because it's

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good.
>> Um, and something I also ran past is

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should we do an um excuse of uh Miss
Herrera? So, can I get a motion to

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excuse the absence of Miss Herrera? She
did let us know beforehand that she

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wasn't able to make it this evening.
Motion to excuse the absence of Miss

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Herrera Silver.
>> I second.

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» Mr. Lazinski. Thank you.
Um, all in favor?

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» I.
>> Okay. Little housekeeping.

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» Yeah. Yeah.
>> And Miss Pur, you're going to recuse

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yourself for a moment.

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Uh so uh the next item on the agenda is
a hearing uh for the modification of

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condition of approval for P for PTAR
Paul G block6002 lot 51

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150 South Finley Avenue extension of
time to begin the project ZB25-015A.

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» Thank you chairman Bin. Um, we're here
to request an extension to our approved

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variance uh for another one-year
extension to do the

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our existing two uh twotory barn as well
as um regrading and putting block

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granite curving in our existing
driveway. Uh the request is really due

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to extensive health and rehab
requirements uh from me going through

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emergency surgery.
Um this has required a lot of extensive

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uh work uh six months to a year and my
focus has been to you know become um I

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would say mobile flexible and uh ability
and have an ability to get around

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starting with the surgery having 10
weeks can't even put any weight

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it's been and I'm still going through
the uh process So,

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» Mr. Pra, sorry to interrupt. Would you
mind just pulling the microphone a

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little bit closer to your your
>> Yeah, the audio is cutting in and out. I

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just want to Oh, I apologize. And I I
watch you guys on TV and I if it gets

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you frustrated when that happens.
>> I know. Exactly.

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» So, I hate to be that kind of a culprit.
>> You're good. Not your fault. It's all

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good.
>> So, essentially, that's the that's the

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basis of our request um is to allow us
to time to begin working on the project.

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Uh
well essentially we did working on the

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project and starting with just even
cleaning up the barn. You can't do it

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with while you're working on a ground in
terms of a bad angle

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as it relates to the variance. There's
no changes to the land development

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ordinance. There's no changes to the
approved

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uh September 3rd 2025 resolution.
One thing of the conditions have

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advanced is the requirement to get
approval from Bernard's Township Sewer

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Authority to uh hook the existing sewer
line from the barn to our existing sewer

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line. So that was approved in October
and we paid the um the hookup fee uh in

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November of this year. So there was work
already uh going on that we had intended

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to do. Um we have moved the project
forward with requests from uh to finish

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up the drawings and we've identified
three u contra licensed contractors

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where we'll you know be looking.
But with that said we're just asking for

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another year's extension of approved
variance as is.

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» I could have filed them under our name
and tried to start something but

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I have worked on it though.
>> Okay. So, I I believe um through Mr.

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uh letter. Uh he confirms that there
have been no changes to the zoning

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ordinance. Um and you have no changes
planned for the project um that wasn't

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otherwise presented uh through your and
approved through the resolution.

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Correct.
>> Ros, did you have a question?

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» Um just you said you had a contractor.
You haven't talked to a contractor yet.

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Do you know that's going to take a year
or do you know when you're going to

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start the project and then it's going to
take six months or just so we don't miss

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the year? You know what I you want to
>> we don't intent of this but answer the

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question.
>> Yeah, I have I have spoken directly.

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» We're hitting winter. That's why I'm
wondering, you know,

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» your company, you're going to hit the
year. That's all. Yeah.

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» Okay.
Um,

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» does anybody have any questions for Mr.
or Mrs. Paktar? Seeing none, any um Tom

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or Dave,
>> when does the one year start date? Is it

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as of today? Like when we approve this
or when is it

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» date of the original resolution?
>> September 3rd, 2023.

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» Okay. So, next year.
>> So, this would bring us to September

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3rd, 2027.
>> Not rushing it, but the year.

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Okay, great.
>> Um but that but that date is to commence

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construction, not to be finished
construction. To commence construction,

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» right? So um

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» yes, so we um we did circulate a uh res
any changes to that. The motion would be

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to grant the extension request excepting
the uh time to commence construction to

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September 3rd, 2027 and adopt the
resolution as draft.

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You want to repeat all that? You can
just say move.

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» So moved.
>> That works. That works. So Mr. Krauss

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and a second. Do I have a second? And
Miss Trap.

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» Miss Dandrea.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Krauss.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Leazinski.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Lindamman.
>> Yes.

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» Miss Silver.
>> Yes.

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» Miss Trap.
>> Yes.

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» Chairwoman Bowman.
>> Yes.

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» Thank you.
>> You'll say thank you for your time and

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the approval. Have a great rest of the
meeting.

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» Thanks.
>> Stay healthy.

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» Healthy.
>> I'm serious.

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» Uh, next on the agenda for completeness
and public hearing is Jennings Patrick

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and Lease, block 5303, lot 7, 178
Galloping Hill Road, Bulk Variances, and

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it's ZB26-024.
Are the Jennings here?

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Is she speaking on your behalf this
evening?

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» I don't know if I can swear in if she's
not at least.

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» I'll muddle through.
>> He's admonishing us right now. I don't

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know if you see that face.
>> Oh,

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» okay. Um, so I'm gonna
Good. You got a free hand. Okay. I'm

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going to need to swear the two of you in
as well as our two board professionals.

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All four of you could raise your right
hand. Oh, we got got an expert here,

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too. How many people do you have
testifying on your behalf? You got two

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two more witnesses. Okay. All six of
you.

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All six of you swear or affirm the the
testimony you're about to provide to be

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the truth, the whole truth, nothing but
Okay. And uh sir, madam, just introduce

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yourselves. Uh state your full name,
last name, and your address.

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» Fair. Patrick Jennings
178 Galloping Hill Road. You're in

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Basking Ridge.
>> Elise Jennings, 178 Galloping Hill,

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Basking Ridge.
Adeline

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assume the same.
>> Uh so do you want to tell us a little

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bit about why you're here?
>> Yes. So unfortunately back in um

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December after after Christmas we had a
uh a house fire uh that that started in

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our garage um and uh kind of destroyed
that that portion of the home that third

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of the home. Um rest of our home had uh
extensive smoke and heat damage

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throughout. Um we worked through with
our insurance company which is pretty

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much at a near end at this point. Um the
whole home is gutted. Um and we kind of

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were in a position to um say you know
want to make this our home where we stay

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here you know for the next couple of
decades. And we were

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crammed as it was. And so this is kind
of our opportunity to say let's let's

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add a little bit to it if we um

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» happened and was really
we were like you know

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moved here with we moved here with no
kids and this is our third five years

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ago and now we have

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» you got starting
>> so everybody is happy and healthy

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otherwise but you know obviously it's
been a really long nine months we are in

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a rental ambass but

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out of lemons is sort of what we're
right.

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Um so

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originally um the house was over in the
lot coverage.

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Um
know how it got to be over in lot

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coverage.
It it it it appeared to me when we when

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we purchased the home, it was like that
that the driveway is quite large and I

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presume that that was the the culprit.

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» Yeah. But we weren't even Yeah, we
weren't even privy to it. Um

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» when you started going for um the
permits and approvals.

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» Yeah. And the architectural design and
getting the

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that was the key.

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Okay. And did you add any changes when
you first bought the house that

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um does anybody have any questions for
Jennings

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or maybe if you're finished
professionals? Did you have a question?

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» Talk to your neighbors about this
project.

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» Yeah, they they all know the

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the house the way it is in a way too.
>> I I have one other question. Have you

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have you do you have or have you had any
issues water on the property like

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» So we we the only issue was was Ida and
after Ida Yeah. Everyone did. Exactly.

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and and we we put some French drains
around the backyard and hadn't had a

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problem since then.

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» Have you guys up here? The uh colorized
photographs that were submitted with

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you.

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» Either of you take these photographs?
>> I don't believe so.

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probably came from either probably the
realtor or

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» Okay, I'll have him authenticate them
when he gets

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» Okay. Usually the applicants take them.
That's why I asked to figure save you

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guys second trip back up. Okay.
>> All right. Anything else you guys want

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to add?

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No pressure here. No pressure.
>> Baby, the birthday.

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» That's a lot. A
>> lot of pressure here.

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» I know, right? That's all we're missing.
>> All right, sir. I think I swore you in

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already. Uh name, business address, and
uh your profession. Uh, my name is

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William Scott. I'm a professional
engineer. Um, I am located at 146

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Somerville Road in Bedminster, New
Jersey.

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» Much. And, uh, would you mind giving the
board your uh, a little bit about your

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background, your professional
credentials?

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» Uh, I have a bachelor of science uh,
degree from the Clarkson University

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School of Engineering in New York. Uh, I
obtained my uh, professional engineers

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license in New Jersey in 2004.
I've had it in co standing ever since.

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Uh I have not appeared before uh this
board, but I've appeared before uh

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several dozen other boards throughout
central New Jersey. Uh many of the

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surrounding communities
>> that your license was still current in

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good standing.

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» Civil engineer.
>> Yes. Yes. Thank you.

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» Uh so I did uh meet with the Jennings at
the site at the beginning of the

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project. Uh I noted the house was fire
damaged and uninhabitable. Um they're

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working with Mr. Welish, the architect,
who you'll hear from shortly, uh to

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develop some plans for the house. And u
my job was to prepare the the site plans

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uh for the project.
Uh the project I'm going to be referring

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basically to sheet one of my plan set
for my testimony.

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That's the plan set dated uh 10th, 2026,
revised May 28th.

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Yes.
So as you look at that plan, the drawing

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to the left is the existing conditions
and demolition plan and the plan to the

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right is basically a um dimensional
proposed plan.

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Uh the proposed project uh encompasses
um additions to the front of the house

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uh which is an expansion of the existing
porch and the existing of a gazebo

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uh as well as the reconstruction of uh
the front walkway.

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Um the gazebo and all that is shaded in
the the light green color.

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The gazebo is situated forward from the
house from the front facade and you'll

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hear from the architect that was done
for aesthetic reasons. Uh but that does

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trigger a front yard variance. Um 75 ft
is required and 66.3 feet is proposed.

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Uh to the rear uh of the house there is
a proposed garage with second floor and

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then an additional uh second floor uh
addition towards the central portion of

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the the rear of the house. Along with
that there is a proposed gazebo.

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Uh you heard that the house uh the
project does currently uh exceed the

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impervious coverage.
Um I discussed with the the Jennings how

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important um block coverage is viewed by
the township. Uh so we met at the site

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again. We walked the site and we tried
to find areas that we could remove uh

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coverage.

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Uh if you look at the drawing to the
left uh of the driveway, you'll see that

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kind of L-shaped red hatched area. uh
that indicates an area of the um

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existing driveway that would be removed.
Uh the net result would be uh a decrease

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of coverage of 24 square ft.

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Uh also in the engineering memo uh it
was noted that we should be subtracting

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the um water surface of the pool from
the previous coverage calculations. Uh

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the water surface is approximately 600
square feet.

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» Thank thank you for that. That was
so the net result of the project right

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now is a decrease of coverage of 24
square feet.

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Uh to put this in context of of how much
you know over

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um that is
um we're coming in at 18.4%

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or 15% is allowed. So it's a overage of
3.4% for impervious coverage.

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Maximum permitted coverage is 15
>> 15.

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» All right. So, yeah, I've got to back
out the water surface then. So

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» purposes and coverage

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» backed out of what I converted.
>> I think what you're saying is if you

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take the pool surface and don't consider
it law coverage, you're at 18.4

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is considered as law coverage. You're at
19.83. Is that correct?

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» Right. We're at 19.8 proposed.
Um we are proposing a drywall and what

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I've done is if um proposed piping from
the uh roofs to the front of the house

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and the right side of the house. Um and
the thinking there is to bring um um

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a roof surface in excess of what the
overage of impervious coverage is to a

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dry well. So we're providing proper
treatment for that amount of imperous

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coverage.

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» But that's not showing on the plans,
correct? That I don't see the drywall.

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» Well, that would be on two. So that's
the grading plan.

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Yes, now I see it. Sorry.

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Do you have
pads under the air conditioner, air

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conditioning units? and the generator

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concrete pads

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» is included.
>> Yeah, I've included that within our

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calculations. Whether there's pads or
not, I'm not sure, but we always include

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that.
>> It is. It's in the 19.8 currently.

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Perfect. Thank you.
Uh we are proposing 16 uh evergreen

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trees to be planted on the site along
with um threeuous trees. Uh we are

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proposing removal of two trees that are
on the site that are in uh rather poor

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condition.

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So the uh just backtrack a little bit.
The gazebo at the front of the house is

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what is presenting the 66.3 foot front
yard setback. Correct.

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» Right. You you could see if you if you
flipped the gazebo 180 degrees, you'd

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comply with the front setback, but you
you'd lose that aesthetic of the as

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you'll see from the architect's plan.
It's a different look. And also the

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front of the porch is slightly
non-compliant at 74.8

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feet.
>> Now 75 is is uh wild is just behind the

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75
>> porch step comes out sticks out empty.

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So majority of the the facade of the
porch

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step comes forward.
>> Okay.

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Want to be clear what exactly is in
front of the setback line for purposes

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determining the relief here.
>> Yeah. So, as far as the expansion, it's

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it's the gazebo portion that's that's
coming forward.

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» That's what's driving. Okay. Thank you.

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» I'm a little confused. I'm sorry. um in
your

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existing lot coverage tabulation
drive and curve as 2935

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and then

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but if I'm looking at the plans
actually have reconstructed and then you

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have a new pavement section
now that decreases in some

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» well the the overall reduction to the
driveway results the net decrease of the

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the dry belt. So, what we're taking out
is larger than that portion that we're

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adding.
>> Where are you? I'm sorry. Where are you?

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» Open open the thing. And you can see
where the red is.

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» Okay. That was all driveway before.
Okay. Got it.

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» Oh, yeah.
That also audes

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neighboring property. So, we're pulling
that back uh to a conforming uh spot.

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» The proposed pergola also um I don't
want to flip through the pages. Um what

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is the pergola over?
>> Uh it's it's over uh this existing patio

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now. Uh and that patio would be
reconstructed.

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We need to just alter it for
construction purposes. And is that um

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open decking or is it um also like a
stone patio? Is it PA patio?

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» Yeah, it's it's a solid hardcape patio.
>> Solid hardcape. Okay.

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» And the pergola is retractable.
>> I believe it's like an open solid

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structure. Open roof. Okay.
>> Slats sort of a

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concrete slab.

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Well, it would be over the the patio.
Yeah. Yeah.

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Um, did you see anything else that you
could reduce the pavers around the the

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pool?

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» Uh, I we had a conversation at the
state. Um there was an area of

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um this pool surround um kind of the to
the right

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uh at the right rear corner of the house
where we thought we could probably clip

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off three or four feet. Um but we really
didn't think that

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it would be worth cutting patio and
altering it.

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» Out of curiosity, the uh the play area
in the rear yard, does that area count

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as lock coverage? And that's a question
in all the

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Yeah, I counted the the tie walls around
it, not the

436
00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:46,359
» not the mulch. Okay. Just wanted to be
clear if that's driving the number at

437
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,359
all. Okay.

438
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:58,400
evidence of a current water mitigation
system in the house adding new

439
00:40:56,319 --> 00:41:03,760
uh the roof trains to the rear of the
house do go underground. Um I'm not sure

440
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:08,560
um exactly where they terminate the
Jennings. So they did some type of

441
00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:13,200
modification to it. Uh that's why we we
took all of the roofs that that had no

442
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:17,040
piping that were discharging onto the
ground. We took them and are bringing

443
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:23,520
that into our drywall system now. The
front and the right side.

444
00:41:20,319 --> 00:41:26,800
» We're abandoning the existing under.
>> No, that would continue.

445
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:31,520
» That stays. But that's just the existing
part of the house. And then

446
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:36,000
» uh it's the it's the rear rear of the
house. The front existing portion didn't

447
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,000
have any um wasn't tied into that
system.

448
00:41:41,839 --> 00:41:49,160
Quinn, do you want to um want to touch
on anything in your report?

449
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,960
» My report I have a report dated

450
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,040
» September 2nd, 2020.

451
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:17,880
I noted that the

452
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:26,640
th000 square feet in exit
they're proposing an underground

453
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,000
that area can come out.

454
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:48,680
» Okay.
I have 18. I I have 234 square feet

455
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,200
per

456
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,560
But it's something that I noticed

457
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:20,680
So, so let me ask you, if the property
is really flat in the back, um, what do

458
00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:20,680
you do as far as storm water?

459
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:46,720
Yeah, the only the only area that I had
concern with was right where the

460
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:51,599
existing patio was. They put it up next
to the house flat. So we might want to

461
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:54,599
add a barrier a curb or something in
there.

462
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:24,000
effective improve.
>> And then I know you mentioned that the

463
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:27,440
roof drains are all going to the um to
the dry well. Correct. Everything is

464
00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:30,240
going to the dry well and the existing
system.

465
00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:33,440
» Um do we have any inlets in the back
that's collecting water that's bringing

466
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:39,880
it to the dry well? Is there any need
for that? It's all running properly

467
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,880
where it needs to go in your opinion.

468
00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:08,240
didn't see a door. You know, we walked
the whole site during the survey and

469
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:13,240
don't know where it is.
>> So, what they'll end up doing is what

470
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,240
they're showing now

471
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,720
property line.

472
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:26,800
But a lot of the new impervious coverage
is sort of going to the back corner of

473
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:31,359
the house opposite so opposite the
drywall. Is there any any concern in

474
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:35,359
that area but adding additional
impervious coverage in an area? So now I

475
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:40,760
feel like it all has to flow around the
house to the front and

476
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,760
» Okay.

477
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:10,599
They're improving the situation
>> driveway pulling the driveway off the

478
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,599
property like they're doing as a

479
00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:18,400
» you have any issue with Mr. um Mr.
Quinn's comments in his letter. You can

480
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:22,160
stipulate to all
>> No problem at all.

481
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,640
» I'm sorry. Did you
>> Oh, no. No. Okay.

482
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:32,920
My review memo dated uh September

483
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:42,520
number one talks about the setbacks
which we already reviewed

484
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,520
variance.

485
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:51,040
applicant realizes that if the board
does approve the

486
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:55,319
proposal, the uh the porch and the
gazebo, that would have to remain open.

487
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:09,839
Number three mentions the property is
about 2,000 square feet now and looking

488
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:16,000
at aerials going back many years.
Mentally both the patio and the driveway

489
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:19,640
were added and expanded over the years.
Been there before 198

490
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:25,480
coverage ordinance, but it looks like
that

491
00:48:27,359 --> 00:48:31,319
or so and then things start

492
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:42,079
five and six just provides numbers
regarding the coverage.

493
00:48:40,319 --> 00:48:48,599
Comment number seven talks about the
trees. Two trees are coming down and and

494
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:48,599
19 trees are

495
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:57,720
the house.
>> Yes. For

496
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,720
Yes.

497
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:04,599
Coming in number eight, if there's going
to be any exterior lighting, uh

498
00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:09,640
downward shielded.

499
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:18,760
» Yes, of course.
Comment number nine talks about partial

500
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,760
demolition and

501
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:27,280
» certainly partial demolition as is
presented

502
00:49:25,839 --> 00:49:32,040
partial demolition and then when they
get into it they find that oh we got to

503
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,040
take

504
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:38,040
take it too far to the point where the
zone

505
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:45,920
partial demolition structure,
then you'd need more variances than you

506
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:50,040
would
partial destruction.

507
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:58,720
» I'll let the architect address. I I know
the house is gutted now, so I guess it's

508
00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:02,960
it's kind of prepped for for work, so
you know, there's no

509
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,960
um I'll let the architect touch it.
Yeah.

510
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:17,240
11 deal with storm water and soil
erosion

511
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:17,240
of the um environmental commission's.

512
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,960
» Yeah, I read through that.
>> Sure.

513
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:25,079
» Yes.

514
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:36,319
» Thank you, Mr. Sly. Um we also had the
um the um environmental commission's

515
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:41,200
letter. Did you have a chance to look at
that as well?

516
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:46,880
» I did. Um we we discussed that we'd be
changing the void ratio uh as requested.

517
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:50,559
That's their comment three.
Um

518
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:54,640
with respect to how we came up with the
1840 square feet, uh that's their

519
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:59,200
comment too. So that's basically the
roof surface area that I can easily

520
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:01,599
bring uh towards the drywall from from
the front of the house and the right

521
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,680
side of the house.
>> Okay.

522
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:09,520
um
>> talked about the uh pool surface and the

523
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:13,119
drywall calculations and you'll work
that out through um the engineering

524
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:18,240
department.
>> Yes. And we'll certainly um utilize the

525
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:21,960
native species for any plant things that
are proposed there

526
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:34,559
» locked up. Is it flowing?
>> I have not Uh, you know, I I guess I'd

527
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,440
have to ask the Jennings if they've
noticed that it it hasn't been

528
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:42,720
functioning. I think I have a note on
the plan that it's the responsibility of

529
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:46,800
the of the contractor to to investigate
it. You know, if he's tying anything

530
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:50,319
into it to ensure that it's functional,
but I don't have any information on it.

531
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:56,160
I just know it goes underground and I
can't find the termination.

532
00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:59,160
No,
nothing.

533
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:06,240
You know, unless it's just a buried if
they put a dry oil in and just buried

534
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:11,920
it. I don't know.
>> Can we do a stipulation that the note

535
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:15,920
has to be on the plan? And
the note for the Yeah, the note that the

536
00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:20,400
contractor has to check to make sure
that there's a system that's either

537
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:26,440
working or tied into the drywall that's
proposed. Would the drywall have to then

538
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,440
increase in size?

539
00:52:53,839 --> 00:52:59,680
Yeah, we have that.
>> We can do that. Yeah. The only reason I

540
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:04,160
didn't really do that was, you know, I
didn't want to get into cutting the the

541
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:09,880
patio and putting piping under the
driveway, so I kind of isolated my work

542
00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:09,880
to the front end.

543
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:15,520
» Yeah.
Okay.

544
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,440
Oh yes.

545
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:31,119
» Okay.
>> And then would the drywall have to

546
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:33,520
increase or that that size and number is
going to be worked out with the

547
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:37,720
engineering department?
>> He's got now is probably larger.

548
00:53:38,319 --> 00:53:41,319
» Okay.

549
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:48,599
house that's equivalent to that area.

550
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,680
» We're going to make sure you don't have
a problem.

551
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:05,400
Oh, that's like a step above what you're
saying.

552
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,880
I was just going to tell them to grab an
area of roof

553
00:54:21,359 --> 00:54:27,839
that to the new drywall
happening in the back drywall area. They

554
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:32,960
don't have to touch
how it works. We don't know how big it

555
00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:37,520
sized if it was even formal.
They just grab enough roof area, some

556
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:42,160
which may go to the back that they can
just

557
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:45,160
then we know they've grabbed enough roof
area.

558
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:53,599
Otherwise, we're going to have them find
out what's back there. See what's back

559
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,839
there. Size what's back there. Is that
still working?

560
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:03,839
» But if the back if the existing one
isn't working, aren't they going to have

561
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:07,920
water backing up?
have water backing up now at some point,

562
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:11,839
right? That's why I'm saying there must
be, however, whatever they've got back

563
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,839
there, water must be directed to the
front.

564
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,480
All I'm concerned about is

565
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:29,079
that means grabbing some of the existing
house. So,

566
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:38,720
» no, no, I agree, but I'm looking at this
as so it's it's not entirely ground up

567
00:55:35,839 --> 00:55:43,520
new construction obviously but um do you
think that you can you can meet

568
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,839
» so that's the intent of what we were
what we were proposing is exactly what I

569
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:50,160
just indicated and what sections of the
roof you're taking

570
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:54,640
» okay
>> trying to avoid whatever's out there now

571
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:59,520
and assessing it and we don't need to do
that if

572
00:55:56,319 --> 00:56:01,440
» Right. Yeah. Yes. So you're good with
that?

573
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:06,480
» Yep. Yes.
>> Okay. Does anybody have any questions

574
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:12,000
for Mr. Scott?
Does anybody from the public have any

575
00:56:08,319 --> 00:56:19,359
questions for this witness?
>> Questions? Not comments, just questions?

576
00:56:15,359 --> 00:56:23,400
Okay. Um,
>> any questions for uh

577
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,240
I didn't

578
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:34,559
» Okay. Thank you, Mr. Scott.
Mr. Welsh, you want to come up to the

579
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:38,640
podium?
>> Hi.

580
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:45,440
» Not my first time over here. My name is
Ivon Welish. I'm a licensed architect in

581
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:52,480
the state of New Jersey since 2000 and
I've been building in Bask

582
00:56:48,960 --> 00:57:00,319
a long time. Well over 150 houses. I've
been here before twice and um

583
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:03,200
open any questions. Should I
>> licenses are current and in good

584
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:08,000
standing, sir? Okay.
>> Condition and sorry,

585
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:12,480
» that's okay. We'll accept you as an
expert. Um, do you want to tell us about

586
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:19,359
your design?
>> Um, to touch a little bit of what the

587
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:24,799
engineer had said, we are pretty much
keeping almost everything what we have

588
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:30,720
in the plans themselves. Whatever you
see in dash lines is what walls that we

589
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:37,359
dig out. whatever is back.
The floor plan is very easy to um you

590
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:45,760
know do one and the other um we are
increasing the overall area of the house

591
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:50,880
by about 1314 ft to 413
ft altogether. That's living space only

592
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:58,960
first and second floor not including the
basement attic is not being used. Um

593
00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:03,599
what we try to do is simply have a very
modern upto-ate

594
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:10,799
colonian if you will. You can still use
these ancient words. New sighting, new

595
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:14,720
windows, new roof, new homes,
everything. So from the outside it will

596
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:21,520
look like a brand new house. We're
adding a garage as you know. And we're

597
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:26,799
also heading a cover cl in the back of
our heartscape

598
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:32,240
hoping. We are also putting the zero.
That was a special request from the

599
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:38,319
owner. They love it. They love it too. I
understand that it's over the subject by

600
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:43,119
8.7 ft. But I believe it really will add
a lot to the way that the house looks.

601
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:48,960
The house is like turning a little bit
to the left. that puts it back

602
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:55,440
kind of an equal. You look from the
road, the cur is on. Of course, we could

603
00:58:53,359 --> 00:59:01,760
push it to the back. We really loses,
but the zippers usually they are in the

604
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:08,240
front a little bit more in the main body
of the house. Um, we don't have to put a

605
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:13,440
railing on the on the uh,
but on the zipper, it's more than 30 in

606
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:19,200
in a few spots. So, we do have to and
open the hook is open. It's like a It's

607
00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:26,960
like a dance stand, if you will. It's
open all sides, front, back, to sides.

608
00:59:24,319 --> 00:59:31,760
Uh the roof is a little bit steeper than
what it was before, and that will help

609
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:36,160
us with the water situation. It doesn't
go over the height restriction of the

610
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:39,200
house.
Description of the house itself, it was

611
00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:43,920
a four bedroomedroom. Uh it's going to
be six bedroom

612
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:51,680
my department. I know that they want to
have more kids. So they told me uh that

613
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:56,640
also the inner
plan of the house itself is a lot better

614
00:59:54,000 --> 01:00:02,640
than it was before
whatever whoever did it before. I'm not

615
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:09,920
criticizing it, but
back and now it's pretty much family

616
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:16,000
dinette kitchen in the back overlooking
the backyard which is really nice. Big

617
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:20,000
windows actually big windows all over
the house. All the windows are going to

618
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:27,119
be new. All the trim is going to be new.
Going to use part siding, no vinyl, no

619
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:29,839
wood is going to be practically zero.
And also the

620
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:37,680
questions.
>> How many rooms does the current house or

621
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,119
the existing house have? How many
bedrooms?

622
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:43,040
» Four.
>> Four. So, it's going from four to six.

623
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,359
And then bathrooms are
>> like six bathrooms, seven bathrooms,

624
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,040
something like that.
>> Uh, five.

625
01:00:46,319 --> 01:00:50,079
» Five bathrooms.
>> Five and a half.

626
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:54,480
» Okay. In the basement. Okay.
>> No. No. Half

627
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:59,599
» half in the basement. Okay. You think
this house is current state or new state

628
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:04,960
characteristic of the neighborhood? Like
our houses in the neighborhood this big

629
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:10,799
or as big as you're building it to or
are there newer houses, older houses

630
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:17,760
» in basket? It's an average
plus house.

631
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:23,760
I did Sherbrook and Ravenswood perfect.
And Ravenwood is all bigger, much bigger

632
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:29,359
than these. this sorry wood is pretty
much it depends excuse me but

633
01:01:26,799 --> 01:01:32,160
» in this on this block I'm saying
>> oh is it no

634
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:35,040
» it's not characteristic
>> the house on the block is no different

635
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:38,720
than the other
>> I'm sorry um maybe I'm asking the

636
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:43,680
question wrong the other houses on the
block if you look at the map are they as

637
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:48,240
large as this house are they older
houses that haven't been redone or

638
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:54,160
» I'm not sure the by square footage I
don't know exactly other houses are, but

639
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,720
they look pretty much the same.
>> Okay,

640
01:01:54,640 --> 01:02:02,319
» I agree that this house looks wider,
which is

641
01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:07,520
gives it more width. We made sure that
the garage, the new garage was to the

642
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:13,760
back, not the side. Also gave the
engineer more room to shrink it because

643
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:19,400
we knew the problem with the size of the
Imperial is not the house itself. So,

644
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:27,359
And it's going to be for like 40
>> 4113

645
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:31,880
» was the house.
>> Uh it was

646
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,880
» what is the current house?

647
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:43,760
» It was 2817 and now it's 4131. Sorry,
not 1331.

648
01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:49,040
The difference is 1314.
>> 3113 is

649
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:51,359
» No, no. Right now it's going to be 4131.
I'm sorry. Too many

650
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:58,319
» 31
>> and it was 28 2817. It's actually all on

651
01:02:54,319 --> 01:03:03,400
the plan to go to get it.
>> No

652
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,400
living space.

653
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:11,839
Uh I don't know about how much
>> Can you speak to the new walkway and the

654
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,319
driveway and what you're doing with
that?

655
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:18,720
» That's more the engineer.
>> Oh, that's more the engineer. Okay.

656
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:22,319
» Put the garage as much as we can to the
back to make the impact of the driver

657
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,880
lesser.
>> Okay.

658
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:29,760
» Cuz they still have the room to make the
turn and so they don't have to

659
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:35,280
» Gotcha. Okay.
>> We knew from day one that this would be

660
01:03:31,359 --> 01:03:40,000
the main hurdle this house.
Most of it is something that somebody

661
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:43,000
else did years ago and not sure why and
how.

662
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,599
got a couple housekeeping questions for
us. Sure.

663
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:52,160
» Uh the plan said that you have on the
easel over there, that's your plans that

664
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:52,960
are dated May 13th of 2026, correct?
Okay.

665
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,720
» Same plan.
>> Gotcha. Just making sure the dates line

666
01:03:54,319 --> 01:03:59,920
up. And then uh the photographs that we
got, did you take these?

667
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:04,559
» I took that the day I measured it.
>> Okay. And that was in uh May 14th, 2026.

668
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,480
» Oh my god.
>> Okay. And these photographs accurately

669
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,839
reflect what the house looks like in its
current condition?

670
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:14,799
» Yes, it does.
>> Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate

671
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,480
» you're adding three additional
bathrooms.

672
01:04:15,839 --> 01:04:20,240
» Yes.
>> Did that necessitate any changes to the

673
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:25,599
sewage infrastructure?
>> No. Normally it does only if you have a

674
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:30,720
septic. Then sometimes you have to
change the septic. But here it's all

675
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:36,200
sewer up city sewer. So we don't have a
problem with it. In other words, the

676
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,200
system accepts

677
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:41,760
» attic clean on here.
>> There is no attic clean. So

678
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,960
» we never do addict
>> everything. Okay. Is there what is there

679
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,280
access into this attic?
>> Yes, you have to have an access pool

680
01:04:46,319 --> 01:04:50,160
downstairs.
>> Pull downstairs.

681
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:54,000
» By law, you have to have it. If you have
a room in the attic, you have to supply

682
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:58,000
a plan.
>> Nothing will be done over there except

683
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,839
mechanics.
>> Not it's not

684
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:05,400
» not livable.
>> Not enough head room where someone could

685
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,400
come later and finish it.

686
01:05:22,319 --> 01:05:30,240
So, I'm I'm a little stuck because um
I'm not certain it is in character with

687
01:05:27,359 --> 01:05:35,520
the neighborhood. Um, we're going much
larger

688
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:39,839
uh than the other houses and um the
coverage is fairly significant.

689
01:05:37,839 --> 01:05:45,839
» I didn't say they're much bigger than
the others. I don't know. But

690
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:53,760
» looking at my experience with this town
building here for the last 3

691
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:58,559
four years, it's average maybe plus.
>> So I don't disagree that it's in

692
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:01,680
character with the township.
The question is, is it in character with

693
01:06:00,319 --> 01:06:05,240
the neighboring properties?
>> I believe it is.

694
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:13,119
» Are there other houses? If you have a
The last time I came here, it was many

695
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:17,440
years ago.
The customer wanted like a 4,200 foot

696
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:24,119
and it was actually he was eligible for
that. The whole neighborhood is between

697
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,119
by the library

698
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:33,119
and the whole neighborhood running was
anywhere between 1700 to 20.

699
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:38,720
The board said listen you're going to be
like Taj Mahal in the middle of nowhere.

700
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:43,680
So we had to even though it was within
what the law the lot right could stand

701
01:06:41,839 --> 01:06:49,119
we had to clean it down. But here I
don't think the difference if there is

702
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:53,119
any is so big that it's really visible.
I don't think so

703
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:57,520
because if you take the house right now
you look from the road the only real

704
01:06:55,280 --> 01:07:00,319
addition would be the gazebo not the
house itself.

705
01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:05,839
» Yeah. The is the most of the additional
coverage coming from the exterior and

706
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:09,359
the patio and things like that or is it
coming from the additional living space

707
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:14,079
that you're putting on? The real
addition to that would be the back where

708
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,839
the kitchen is and where the new garage
is.

709
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:20,880
» I see
>> that that's actually what what they see

710
01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:25,920
and I can see too they will need more
than three threec car garage in the

711
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:30,720
future. They're already big family and
they're going to be even bigger than

712
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:34,359
that. So and a three-car garage in this
town is not unusual.

713
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:44,559
Not aware of what the setback front yard
setbacks are for any of the

714
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:50,039
» pretty much the same as this one
>> within the 75 give or take couple.

715
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:56,160
» Let me rephrase
of any other houses in the neighborhood

716
01:07:53,520 --> 01:08:00,400
that would have a 60 roughly 65 foot
front yard setback.

717
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:07,200
» No, I don't. And I want to reiterate
that the only protrusion of that line is

718
01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:10,200
an open
open

719
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,240
» 6.3

720
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:18,599
8.7 ft into the front.

721
01:08:19,679 --> 01:08:26,799
» That with the exception front porch, the
front of the house is not changing in

722
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:28,640
size. all the additions.
>> Very little

723
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:32,440
» back rear corner.
>> You're right. Very little.

724
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:40,960
» I I I do believe that the addition of
the porch really softens the house. When

725
01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:44,239
you look at it, you see a big wall. Now,
it's going to be broken and with the

726
01:08:42,799 --> 01:08:50,560
columns, it's going to be segregated
into pieces. So, high is not going

727
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:55,799
anywhere too. But
I'm not sure.

728
01:08:52,799 --> 01:08:55,799
guessing.

729
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,920
» Yes.

730
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:04,920
» Okay. Because it looks like a lot of the
houses in that neighborhood.

731
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:12,359
» Well, hopefully they're all going to
become my clients.

732
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,359
» Once they see this

733
01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:24,560
impact, isn't really that much. The back
of the house is where the

734
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:28,239
than the new facade.
>> Isn't most of the square footage on the

735
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:31,920
second floor that's being added here?
>> Always like that. In most houses, the

736
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:36,239
second floor is bigger than the first
because you go over the garage.

737
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:39,679
» Sure. Are there other houses on this
street that have second floors?

738
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:44,719
» I'm not sure what the square footage of
the other houses is,

739
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:48,560
» but it's almost always like that. The
second floor is bigger than the first.

740
01:09:46,799 --> 01:09:52,880
» Or perhaps the Jennings now.
>> Sorry.

741
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:56,159
Please gota gotta come up. Got to get
the audio.

742
01:09:54,400 --> 01:10:01,920
» During the time of us living here, lot
three actually um got added a um

743
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:07,280
addition to above their garage. So a
caddy corner to our um home. There was

744
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:14,159
construction in the past two to three
years and they added an addition um and

745
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:18,320
additionally five um two houses down has
um about I would say bigger than ours. I

746
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:24,560
don't actually have that confirmation,
but it is a very large home on lot five

747
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:29,440
and then lot four um next to us. So, I
do know that both have um rooms above

748
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:34,960
their and then and then we're added to
while we live there. I don't know if

749
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:42,360
that's helpful.
>> Does anybody have a gazebo?

750
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,360
» That's the first.

751
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:52,159
» Yes, please.
I have two things actually. Um so we

752
01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:55,520
actually um in 2021 we lost a home that
we wanted to buy on Spencer Road and it

753
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:59,280
had this beautiful book gazebo and it
was ours and we were in attorney review

754
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:04,239
and during the craziness of 2021 we were
in attorney review and someone spooked

755
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:08,000
it away. Um at the time my mom was alive
and visited the home and it was what we

756
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:13,280
were going to purchase. Um, since then
my mom passed away of glyobblasto and so

757
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:18,239
she was in our home. Sorry. Um, she was
in our home um 178 Galving Hill and um,

758
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:22,080
I grew up with a porch and it was one of
those things that I always hoped that I

759
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:28,000
would be able to do and um, so she is no
longer with us but um, in the history of

760
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:32,560
the house we almost had and loved and I
had shown Mr.

761
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:37,440
um the gazebo. Um and also in the you
know honor of my mom personally um not

762
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:40,640
to bring that in but it's the truth. I
had said to him like if there's just any

763
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:47,600
way that we feel like it wouldn't be
such a um issue um could we at least try

764
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:50,800
to see if that was possible. So that's a
little bit of the personal side but also

765
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:55,840
the craziness of the market when we were
buying to hopefully be in this town. So,

766
01:11:54,080 --> 01:12:00,000
» ma'am, real quick, that the house you
mentioned on Spencer is that anywhere

767
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:06,320
close to this, I'm not familiar.
>> Uh, Spencer Road, um, Calvin Hill and

768
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:10,320
Lake Avenue connect Spencer. So, five
minutes,

769
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:14,159
» linear distance,
>> several several miles,

770
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,960
» a mile.
>> Okay.

771
01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:19,760
» It's not within your neighborhood.
That's okay.

772
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:22,800
» No, it's in the town. It's a mile away.
Yeah. No, sorry. But that was really

773
01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:28,000
where it came from.
>> Okay. Um Mr. Welsh, I got a question for

774
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:31,679
you. You're good now. Um
hearing, you know, I'm hearing concerns

775
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:36,560
from the board about the the gazebo. Is
there any way to rotate that structure

776
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:38,480
and push it further back into the
property?

777
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,320
» You can, of course.
>> Okay.

778
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:43,920
» I can't say no.
>> But that's the setback issue, not the

779
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:46,960
coverage issue. That wouldn't help. Like
I don't think anyone's objecting to the

780
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:50,560
setback. Like
>> Okay.

781
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:53,280
» I feel like board I don't know. I want
you saying for deliberations.

782
01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:57,920
» Okay. Okay.
>> I heard a lot of questions about I would

783
01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:01,360
want to say in most cases what you see
is the coming more to the front.

784
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:04,800
» I got you. I just
>> and I understand it's I just want to see

785
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,360
if that's a possibility. So then we
won't be able to talk about it.

786
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,760
» Anything is possible but I wouldn't do
it for the way it's going to look. It's

787
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:15,000
going to look like
>> I got you. Okay.

788
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:15,000
» Not not in place.

789
01:13:15,679 --> 01:13:26,600
It it actually is freestanding. The roof
is not even connected. But the the the

790
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,600
walkway is

791
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:35,920
» connected. The roof would
>> it's like that much apart. That's all.

792
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:39,679
But physically it's not it. I would say
wouldn't make my life easier if they are

793
01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:45,040
connected. So they're embracing and all
that. But

794
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:49,520
this is looking good. I think my opinion
>> then I am going to go back then are is

795
01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:53,520
your concern
uh with the gazebo character with the

796
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:56,000
neighborhood or is your concern Miss
Silver. Yeah.

797
01:13:54,080 --> 01:14:00,080
» Oh
concern with the gazebo I have a concern

798
01:13:58,239 --> 01:14:03,600
with the coverage amount that they're
requesting and so to me it's I'm

799
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:07,760
indifferent to whether it's coming from
the gazebo or their walkways or their

800
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:13,040
patio or whatever. I just feel like the
coverage amount is high and I don't have

801
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:18,159
an issue with the setback is what I was
saying because that's what's the gazebo

802
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:22,320
turning this way or that way to me makes
>> zero difference because I agree with him

803
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:26,960
that aesthetically it probably looks
better to come out towards the front and

804
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:31,800
I don't have a problem with that but I
don't know if other people have

805
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:31,800
different Okay

806
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:37,679
it's bigger

807
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,760
for structure.
>> Yeah.

808
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:46,880
» If there's in the backyard, which
typically they are, not in the front

809
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:49,440
yard in most neighborhoods. I don't know
exactly what you say,

810
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:53,679
» Carl. I would disagree with that. I
think there's many in my neighborhood

811
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:55,840
that have this exact design that I'm
just I'm just saying.

812
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,239
» I haven't seen, let's just say, I
haven't seen a lot in the front yard.

813
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:04,159
So, that's all I'm saying.
>> Yeah. I mean, I I'm just saying I don't

814
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:10,000
to me that part is not the issue. It's
just the impervious coverage.

815
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:14,400
» Can I ask a question? Does is anyone
concerned about the setback related to

816
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:19,719
the gaze?
>> I want to be clear. All right. I thought

817
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:19,719
that might have been a concern based on

818
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:28,719
» uh but I would agree that I have a
concern with the width of the house

819
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:32,560
because it's already getting bigger. Um,
I understand that most of the addition

820
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:37,120
is going to the back of the house and I
do understand that there's an

821
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:44,000
improvement with pulling the driveway
away from the property line. Um, so I

822
01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:48,239
see some benefits here. Um, but I'm
concerned with the character of the

823
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:54,719
neighborhood as we're going up in size
and then creating an element that's sort

824
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:58,679
of um very different from what this
neighborhood has.

825
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:09,040
Um,
I I mean I I don't see that as a problem

826
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:13,679
actually. I really don't. I mean I think
eventually since these all these homes

827
01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:19,360
were built so many decades ago. I think
in the next 30 years they're all going

828
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:23,040
to be renovated because um as you said
you said it yourself. I want to stay

829
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:28,800
here for 20 years. Let's be honest. They
all move in. Not all, but most move in,

830
01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:33,679
stay for 20 to 25 years, get that
education.

831
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:37,199
Okay? New families come in, they
renovate.

832
01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:44,000
It's happening in the hills now over and
over. So, I I think they're just the

833
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:47,679
first of many. That's how I look.
>> I agree to what you're saying, and it

834
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:51,600
happened to me many times. Elephants
like that. You do the first house and

835
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:56,640
then everybody, I never thought about
that. Maybe I should do something, too.

836
01:16:53,360 --> 01:17:03,280
Then I get phone calls
30, 45 years old, 30 years old and see

837
01:17:00,719 --> 01:17:07,120
it comes in waves.
One starts and the other one starts and

838
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:11,199
the other one in the next rate starts
and then within 10 years everything

839
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:15,040
looks a lot better.
>> Also

840
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:18,239
» just my also our taste changes and you
right

841
01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:22,719
» this could be this is a a fully sided
house. Good. But now the sighting is

842
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:26,719
going to be different and we're going to
have a skirt of stone on the bottom to

843
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:32,480
prevent hydration. I'm sure you know
what it is. Brown on the bottom and so

844
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:36,560
on. We are using very similar materials
but better.

845
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:40,960
People know, oh, I don't have to build a
new house. All I have to do is just I

846
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:45,360
don't want to say gingerbread it but
yes, gingerbread it and do this a little

847
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:51,360
bit, that a little bit and it's okay.
All we're doing bringing it few steps

848
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:54,719
forward without making a monster.
>> So, why don't we bring this back? Um,

849
01:17:53,199 --> 01:18:00,000
does anybody else have any questions for
Mr. Wellish?

850
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:05,120
Um, Mr. Quinn, did you have any
questions for Mr. Wellish?

851
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:09,120
» No. And Mr. Schlly,
>> question.

852
01:18:05,679 --> 01:18:09,120
» Do you have any further questions?

853
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:24,280
The roof is within the high limit if
that's

854
01:18:20,719 --> 01:18:24,280
» the engineer defraction

855
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:31,400
question.
>> That's what it was.

856
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:31,400
» Um that point, Mr. Welsh.

857
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:37,520
» Any more of the house going to need to
be torn down?

858
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:41,120
not going to be thrown down.
>> Not going to exceed partial.

859
01:18:38,719 --> 01:18:43,520
» Not at all.
>> We're using most of it.

860
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:47,679
» Okay.
>> I can't say percent 80 85 87 but most of

861
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,320
it.
>> You don't foresee any more demolition to

862
01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:57,040
the existing structure?
>> Not more than what I show.

863
01:18:53,440 --> 01:19:02,000
» Uh so earlier Mr. Wellish um Mr. Soies
was asking about the pictures and I saw

864
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:05,120
um somebody who appears to be with you
shaking her head yes and you shaking

865
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,719
your head no that you did not
>> I wasn't sure who took the picture but

866
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,960
it's me
>> that you did take these pictures um do

867
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:15,840
you know when you took these pictures
>> in the winter I can't say exactly what

868
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:19,840
day
>> I can find out but it's not like

869
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:27,840
» I asked you about him before you said
>> yeah it was May May something like that

870
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,840
» May 14th 2020 on

871
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:43,360
uh no the reason I was asking he was
shaking his head no

872
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:47,239
» I just wanted to be sure we had the
right answer to the

873
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:57,199
» looks like the the back right corner

874
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:05,920
by 10
to each side of the existing. Okay.

875
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:11,719
» What's the question?
>> I'm looking at drawing A3 and looking at

876
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,719
the framing plan.

877
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:20,640
» Showing 2x10 floor joist at 16, but are
existing. Is that what

878
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:23,440
» those are all existing? Okay. And you're
just supplementing those in the back

879
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:26,640
right corner.
>> Okay. All right. I

880
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:43,679
So um then I'm going to ask the question
um when we look at imperous coverage we

881
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:50,000
consider both water um how the water is
being um managed and we look at mass

882
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:53,840
with the gazebo we're adding a little
bit of mass not saying you have to get

883
01:20:52,000 --> 01:21:00,080
rid of the gazebo but if we're looking
at impervious coverage that's excessive.

884
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:06,960
Um, and not that you're over 20%, but
you are, you know, almost 5% over,

885
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:11,120
right, in impervious coverage. Um, plus
we have some additional mass. So, I

886
01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:17,880
would ask the question, is there
anywhere do you that you feel you could

887
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,880
cut back on imperous coverage?

888
01:21:18,719 --> 01:21:25,280
walked the property um with both of the
uh people that we hired, both the

889
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:29,199
architect and the engineer. And one of
the um areas that we looked to move was

890
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:32,960
actually around the pool. And because we
have three young kids, when we moved in

891
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:36,960
um they did not have young children, we
had a fresh company put one of those

892
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:39,120
fences like right near the pool. So when
we were looking at that, that fence is

893
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:42,080
not going anywhere. We have a
four-year-old, a three-year-old, and a

894
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:47,920
four-month-old. So, when we were looking
at places where the around the pool

895
01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:52,159
technically I think um could come in
because we have the fence as a safety

896
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:54,159
element, it it it's not something that's
going to be there for the next two to

897
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:57,440
three years. So, I think we could
probably relook at that instead of

898
01:21:55,679 --> 01:22:02,159
getting rid of the porch if we had to,
but it it does it does make it a little

899
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:05,360
bit more challenging because we have,
you know, the fence around our property

900
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:09,040
as well as the safety fence right
directly near the shape of the pool. So,

901
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:13,120
we were trying to find areas where it
would even make sense like to not have

902
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:15,920
grass right into a fence, right into a
pool. Do you see what I'm saying? So, I

903
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:21,600
just wanted to mention that that that
was a little bit challenging because of

904
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:26,080
our safety element we had put on. But I
>> What about the size of the patio?

905
01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:29,040
There's like a patio that's not part of
the pool, right? There's like a hardcape

906
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,560
area
>> that's actually going to become house.

907
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,360
So, that's
>> Oh, that's becoming house.

908
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:38,560
» Yeah. So that's why I was saying like
getting rid of some of that patio is

909
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,560
actually going to have structure on it.
>> I see.

910
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:44,560
» Is ultimately going to be smaller.
>> It's already going to be small.

911
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:48,480
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. That that's that's really the main

912
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:53,920
driver around you know chopping back
that driveway. I mean do love, you know,

913
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:58,320
being able to pull cars off to the side.
We really do

914
01:22:56,239 --> 01:23:01,880
by by kind of giving that up and and
presenting this as

915
01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:17,040
Yeah,
>> I'm worried about three kids in vehicles

916
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:20,800
and us. Look, I'm I'm worried about five
cars eventually. But yeah, I think if

917
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:27,000
that was going to win us what we've got
going, we could probably look at it. But

918
01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:27,000
I'm thinking about 15 years from now.

919
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:39,800
other than your house. The only area,

920
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,000
» right?

921
01:23:51,679 --> 01:24:01,960
And I'm just concerned of the We have a
large family. We have large SUVs pulling

922
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,960
out of the garage and really

923
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,840
Yeah. I mean, the two

924
01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:28,440
because we're struggling to try to come
up with some

925
01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:39,560
how much of that would be significant.
I I was looking at the number. If you do

926
01:24:35,199 --> 01:24:39,560
like 250 square feet,

927
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:46,000
» getting them closer to 19 than 20
though,

928
01:24:44,639 --> 01:24:48,719
» which I feel like we would be more
comfortable. I don't know about everyone

929
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:53,199
else, but I don't like being at 20.
>> Keep in mind, they're already less than

930
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:57,840
what they started with. they are, you
know, and and I appreciate that it was

931
01:24:55,920 --> 01:25:03,440
over, but we don't even know how it got
over and if anything was ever previously

932
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:09,920
Let the applicant continue to um look at
possibilities here. Um I think Miss

933
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:15,199
Silver has a valid point. Um
I understand that they're they've

934
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:18,360
like to I'd like to explore this a
little bit further.

935
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:23,520
» Talk about giving it a

936
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,920
That would work for me.

937
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:34,199
» I have a an attorney level idea.

938
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:42,880
» Those are always valuable.
>> So, the twotory garage edition

939
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:48,080
comes off the side of the house by seven
and 3/4 feet.

940
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:51,440
I know this probably requires some
extensive revisions, but could you like

941
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:54,960
shift
that so it's flush with the existing

942
01:25:53,520 --> 01:26:00,239
side of the house. That would reduce the
massing, but also reduce the uh

943
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,719
amount of coverage. I know it' be an
extensive rework, but I'm just trying to

944
01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:07,639
think of how you can trim down some
coverage and reduce the massing. That's

945
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,639
what I'm hearing.

946
01:26:09,679 --> 01:26:13,239
Drop it off here.

947
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:17,159
» Is less than 18.

948
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:25,520
Um, but I I but but you have also goes
here. I see. So it's it's a staggered.

949
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:29,120
That's what I'm saying. If you if you
moved it over a little bit more,

950
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:33,560
» you have you have an existing garage,
right? If you just lined it up with the

951
01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:33,560
existing bays.

952
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:40,159
» I'm just throwing it out there as a
possibility. You know, that's I don't

953
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:45,360
think it's deep enough. I would I I like
the idea and we've done it in the past

954
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:50,480
of giving a percentage that the board is
comfortable with and then you guys are

955
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:55,040
free to figure out what works within
that number and what doesn't. Um we

956
01:26:52,719 --> 01:26:59,440
don't want to design for you. Uh you
know the suggestions are are meant

957
01:26:57,199 --> 01:27:04,719
absolutely in goodwill to try to help
figure it out but ultimately it comes

958
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:08,800
down to your decision. um you know
there's a lot of there are a lot of

959
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:13,760
pavers there's a lot of pavement um and
there's some additional buildings so

960
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:16,760
a number that the board is comfortable
with

961
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:26,440
so 4% over I think the I think are we
typin within 4%

962
01:27:26,480 --> 01:27:33,840
» now they do have a slightly undersized
lot

963
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:37,320
» really
lot 18.96

964
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:47,800
» the lot size is the lot size and and it
all looks pretty uniform to me when I'm

965
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,800
looking at the areials

966
01:27:52,639 --> 01:27:57,960
» 19%
that gives them 7915

967
01:28:00,639 --> 01:28:03,440
out 32

968
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,920
If they if they cut

969
01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:28,880
I'm I look at I look at taking about
about 250 or 300

970
01:28:26,719 --> 01:28:35,520
bump out
get you close to 191 around that area. I

971
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:38,639
don't know exactly how closer to 19.
>> Can I just ask you to consider that when

972
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:42,000
we purchased the house, the previous
owners lived there a really long time

973
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:44,719
and I I'm under the impression that when
the driveway was put in right at the

974
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:49,199
property line, it wasn't necessarily
something they asked to do. So, I just

975
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:53,440
like I think it's something that
personal side you get used to. And so,

976
01:28:52,159 --> 01:28:57,280
obviously, our house burned down like we
did not inherit $10 million to do this

977
01:28:55,040 --> 01:29:01,440
renovation and like, you know, make our
new design. So, I just I just want to go

978
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:04,400
back to like the original time I stood
here and said like we're trying to make

979
01:29:02,639 --> 01:29:09,120
lemonade from lemons and we want to
comply as as well, but I think like

980
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:13,679
coming into this like we came into the
property with it over without knowing.

981
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:16,679
So, we're trying to also take that into
consideration.

982
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:40,920
19 and a half.
>> 19.

983
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:47,920
» The um the area that you're talking
about wouldn't cause any problems for

984
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:53,159
trucks backing out and
>> Well, I mean

985
01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:53,159
have

986
01:30:00,719 --> 01:30:08,560
our kids
about 15 years from now, you're not

987
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:14,280
going to have enough black.
>> Right. Understood.

988
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,280
» Three car garage.

989
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:32,840
Take out those. Uh
not going to get you much, but it might

990
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,840
be.

991
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:57,880
I'm just concerned about the safety of
the pool. No, I just

992
01:30:53,679 --> 01:30:57,880
» wanted to be safe, but I

993
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:15,040
there's a lot of pa between the house
and the the pool itself. So, I see I

994
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:19,600
think I see where the fence is. It's not
on

995
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:23,199
block wall. Assume the fence there.
>> I think she's referring to

996
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:36,440
And that got
>> 100 ft. What does that get you to? 19.4.

997
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:05,440
I'm just a little skeptical of the
patio. I'm willing to go on the

998
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:09,520
driveway. I'm just a little skeptical on
the patio, but I just am concerned about

999
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:14,880
the us having to give enough to meet a
percentage of a number that then impedes

1000
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:19,280
kind of closer to the garage than even
the the

1001
01:32:16,719 --> 01:32:24,639
new portion of the driveway would would
stick out. It obviously can't go further

1002
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:28,360
than than that. Um, and is that enough
square footage to

1003
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:38,040
professionals don't have

1004
01:32:41,199 --> 01:32:44,440
» they will

1005
01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:50,440
sure
>> sure

1006
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:59,679
uh let's take a fivem minute break. Why
don't we do that? You don't want to run

1007
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:06,120
into
>> You're in recess.

1008
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:06,120
currently in recess at 9:02.

1009
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,880
All right.

1010
01:43:33,679 --> 01:43:40,639
Um okay. Yes. So after speaking with my
architect, my engineer, we believe we

1011
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:45,280
can
previous coverage uh by taking out

1012
01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:50,600
driveway
narrowing the walkways in the front and

1013
01:43:47,440 --> 01:43:50,600
the back.

1014
01:43:51,920 --> 01:44:01,440
That would that would get you guys to 19
>> that if that's what 300 reduced

1015
01:43:59,199 --> 01:44:02,719
» 19.13 was the number you said.
>> Okay.

1016
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:06,960
» Yes.
>> We were willing to give them the benefit

1017
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:10,440
of rounding up.
>> Yeah, I think that's

1018
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:17,080
» all right. Lot of lot of conversation
here.

1019
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:17,080
» All right. 19.13.

1020
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:31,880
» Yeah, I'm okay with that.

1021
01:44:52,159 --> 01:44:55,159
Anybody

1022
01:45:20,480 --> 01:45:23,520
from the public?

1023
01:45:34,719 --> 01:45:38,760
Yeah, let's do let's do that.

1024
01:45:52,159 --> 01:45:56,360
Go ahead and open up to the public.

1025
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:20,480
Hi, my name is Michael McName. I uh I
live next door at 172 Galloping Hill

1026
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:23,960
Road.
>> Want me to spell?

1027
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:30,800
» We're confirm that the testimony you're
about to provide to be the truth, the

1028
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:32,960
whole truth.
>> Yes. Uh, spell your last name for me,

1029
01:46:32,719 --> 01:46:42,400
Mr.
>> Mcnammy. MC Capital N like in Nancy. A M

1030
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:47,880
like in Mary. E E two E's at the end.
>> Would you mind just turning the mic up?

1031
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,880
Just

1032
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:51,719
» Michael McName

1033
01:46:53,760 --> 01:47:00,719
step back because the the audio is
getting like

1034
01:46:58,480 --> 01:47:03,280
» into it.
Okay.

1035
01:47:02,159 --> 01:47:06,000
» Okay. I'm sorry.
>> Micro Yeah, the microphone's very

1036
01:47:04,719 --> 01:47:11,679
sensitive. We just got to make sure the
audience pick up back.

1037
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:19,440
Uh re reason I'm here is uh we live next
door and uh in in looking at the the

1038
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:24,960
plans for for what's to be done on the
um existing conditions survey we

1039
01:47:22,719 --> 01:47:30,880
uncovered that we believe that there's
an encroachment

1040
01:47:27,199 --> 01:47:35,679
um some of which is being corrected by
the removal of the impervious

1041
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:40,560
uh
coverage in the driveways.

1042
01:47:38,239 --> 01:47:46,800
Um, at that point it's only a couple of
inches. Uh, as you go to the back

1043
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:55,440
there's a fence, a Rhode Island type
fence running along the a border that

1044
01:47:51,360 --> 01:48:00,400
appears using the um the graphic scale
here. It appears to be encroaching as as

1045
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:04,719
much as three feet at the far end. It's
a pie shape, very skinny pie shape.

1046
01:48:03,119 --> 01:48:11,320
We're talking about the lower right
corner here, the the southoutheast

1047
01:48:07,679 --> 01:48:11,320
corner of the property.

1048
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:20,880
On on the right, yes.
And um we're our concern is that we

1049
01:48:18,639 --> 01:48:25,440
would end up in adverse possession
situation at some point down the road.

1050
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:29,840
I'm surprised that when they bought the
property, that didn't come up in their

1051
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:33,880
survey. Um
but we would like that corrected.

1052
01:48:34,239 --> 01:48:41,840
question for
um does the fence

1053
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:46,080
variance of the fence right being
>> if you look on on on

1054
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:50,800
» sorry I'm not asking you ask
>> I'm sorry

1055
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:53,679
» not to be Dave fence needs to obviously
be on the propert is is there a very

1056
01:48:52,480 --> 01:48:56,239
like an ordinance requirement that
states

1057
01:48:54,400 --> 01:49:02,239
» binches is a setback for a fence
>> okay so technically they're have a

1058
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:07,480
non-conforming fence then that
Well, they have a non-conforming fence

1059
01:49:04,480 --> 01:49:07,480
uh

1060
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:11,679
» property. It's not like
>> I understand from from a zoning board

1061
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:14,679
perspective because at the end of the
day,

1062
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:21,840
» if you look at the scale there and and
the back end of the property, you'll see

1063
01:49:19,199 --> 01:49:25,360
there's I think it's two or three feet.
>> Understood, sir. At the end of the day,

1064
01:49:24,159 --> 01:49:28,400
that would be a dispute between you and
the property owner. That's not really

1065
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:31,679
for this kind of outside of our
jurisdiction.

1066
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:36,400
They are going to be moving parts of
defense out front.

1067
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:39,679
» Okay. But they're not touching
>> not touching it back there. No. So I got

1068
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:42,480
to I got to lawyers. Okay.
>> I'm not saying that. I'm just saying in

1069
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:46,679
general that's not something that we
have a lot of control over.

1070
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:51,159
» Applicant would be

1071
01:49:52,719 --> 01:49:55,960
» I'm sorry.

1072
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:59,000
Yeah.

1073
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:06,119
» Okay.
>> Thank you.

1074
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:06,119
» All right.

1075
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:15,280
» Jennings, would you mind coming back up
real quick just to address that? So, I

1076
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:19,679
correct me if I'm wrong, sir. I think I
heard you state that you guys would

1077
01:50:16,719 --> 01:50:23,280
agree to relocate that fence off of uh
the Mcamese property.

1078
01:50:21,119 --> 01:50:27,360
» Correct. And just to clarify, can't be
on the property line at six inches.

1079
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:31,639
Yeah, you you'll need to apply for a
permit for it.

1080
01:50:28,639 --> 01:50:31,639
» Uh

1081
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:39,639
want this uh

1082
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:48,520
fence to uhed
and approved as a pool fence.

1083
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:56,080
There's got to be six inches.

1084
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:11,119
Okay. All right. Well, you're agreeing
to relocate it to a conforming location

1085
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:14,520
on your property.
Varants needed.

1086
01:51:34,719 --> 01:51:42,840
Um, okay. Applicants here are seeking
two berries.

1087
01:51:39,119 --> 01:51:42,840
house. Uh

1088
01:51:43,440 --> 01:51:53,239
74.8 ft for the front step and the
porch. 75 ft is required. We're also

1089
01:51:48,719 --> 01:51:53,239
proposing a lot coverage ratio of 19

1090
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:34,040
mic isn't on. Does anybody want to kick
us off? Does anybody have any thoughts?

1091
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:42,080
» Uh person like
I drove this neighborhood and it looks

1092
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:48,159
like a neighborhood that was built
developers kind of a neighborhood

1093
01:52:45,119 --> 01:52:52,880
all have a similar pattern to them.
While this will not any longer be

1094
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:57,440
exactly the same as the houses in that
neighborhood,

1095
01:52:55,040 --> 01:53:02,400
someone has to be first if people want
to renovate neighborhood. So, I

1096
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:06,639
personally have no issue with the change
in house. I think it's going to add to

1097
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:11,360
the neighborhood. I think I love front
porches. I think dress the neighborhood

1098
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:15,159
up and I think it's going to inspire
other people to do

1099
01:53:16,480 --> 01:53:21,800
problem with this. I the 19.2% lock.

1100
01:53:25,599 --> 01:53:35,440
» Thank you, Miss Potar. Yeah, I I agree.
I think I like the idea of how it does

1101
01:53:32,719 --> 01:53:42,400
in fact change the front of the house.
It gives it character. It adds variety

1102
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:45,840
when you're looking at the house. Um, I
appreciate that aspect of it. To me,

1103
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:49,599
it's not just a cookie cutter kind of
kind of thing, you know, which could be

1104
01:53:47,119 --> 01:53:57,199
a re, you know,
so I actually do appreciate it and uh I

1105
01:53:54,000 --> 01:54:02,199
like what you guys are doing with it.
Does anybody else have anything to add,

1106
01:53:59,199 --> 01:54:02,199
thoughts?

1107
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:13,440
Um, so I was a little on the fence. Um,
I appreciate very much that you um took

1108
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:18,560
another look and were able to to pull
scale back just a little bit. Um, I do

1109
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:23,520
see some absolute improvements to the
property here with what you're doing.

1110
01:54:20,159 --> 01:54:27,840
You're pulling the um the the
uh driveway back off of the property

1111
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:33,360
line. Um, you've agreed to fix the fence
that you didn't even know was a problem.

1112
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:37,760
Um, uh, a lot of your improvements are
in the rear of the house. So, again, you

1113
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:41,520
know, I'm not looking at it this as like
it's some monster home. And I agree, the

1114
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:47,040
neighborhoods, you know, our
neighborhoods need to turn over. Um, I

1115
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:51,040
was very much on the fence. I'm still a
little bit on the fence with the gazebo.

1116
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:55,199
So, not because it's not lovely and it's
meaningful to you. Um, for me, it's more

1117
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:59,360
is it in character with the
neighborhood. I don't see a lot of

1118
01:54:56,719 --> 01:55:05,840
gazeos in front yards of houses. So for
me it's I'm a little challenged by it.

1119
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:10,639
Um but overall what I think you're doing
is an improvement and overall what I

1120
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:15,040
think you're doing is lovely. So um
again I appreciate everything that

1121
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:20,880
you've done here before us and um loved
the addition of our little uh witness

1122
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:25,199
here this evening. Um
uh but you know that's that's my

1123
01:55:23,119 --> 01:55:31,360
thought. Um so does anybody here want to
kick us off?

1124
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:37,760
Since I spoke, I guess I will. I I I
think I would see this as a It's not not

1125
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:45,400
a seat except for the fact that the
house was built before the current lock

1126
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:45,400
coverage restrictions were

1127
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:53,599
that purpose. I might say it's a
for the most part, it's C2. It's

1128
01:55:50,719 --> 01:55:56,679
improving the neighborhood. Um, and I
think it's

1129
01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:03,639
Um, so I would like to make a motion to
deem the

1130
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:08,520
draft a resolution memorializ

1131
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:13,639
all the stated stipulations and
conditions.

1132
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:26,760
Grant the relief requested by the
>> Are we C1 or N C2 or just C2?

1133
01:56:22,719 --> 01:56:26,760
» By humble legal opinion.

1134
01:56:27,199 --> 01:56:31,080
Heard any good planning arguments?

1135
01:56:56,400 --> 01:57:05,199
I I I got where you were going, but I
wasn't 100% sure either. So, thank you,

1136
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:10,199
Mr. Soies. Do we have a second? I will
>> Mr. Krauss. Do we have Miss Pear or Mr.

1137
01:57:07,199 --> 01:57:10,199
Krauss?

1138
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:13,360
» Mr. Krauss?
>> Yes.

1139
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:15,360
» Mr. Leazinski?
>> Yes.

1140
01:57:14,239 --> 01:57:18,080
» Mr. Lindamman?
>> Yes.

1141
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:19,280
» Miss Pear? Miss Silver,
>> yes.

1142
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:22,800
» Miss Chap,
>> yes.

1143
01:57:19,679 --> 01:57:27,280
» Chairwoman Bowman,
>> I'm gonna say no. Um, simply because I'm

1144
01:57:25,679 --> 01:57:30,960
just not sure about the character of the
neighborhood. Um, please don't take

1145
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:37,480
offense.
Um, but uh, you've passed and I wish you

1146
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:37,480
all the best.

1147
01:57:37,679 --> 01:57:44,119
» Yes. Is it good?
>> Thank you.

1148
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:53,760
near me.
>> I want to I want to see your

1149
01:57:52,719 --> 01:57:58,400
» see the ones near me. They're really
nice.

1150
01:57:55,440 --> 01:58:03,840
» Uh so next on our agenda is the
completeness and public hearing for Sue

1151
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:07,920
uh Kan Sue
um and Lee Pingi.

1152
01:58:06,239 --> 01:58:12,880
Um
and that is block 4103 lot 6 48

1153
01:58:11,119 --> 01:58:17,040
conquered lane. Bulk variance is
ZB26019.

1154
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:21,520
Did I say your names correctly?
>> Yes.

1155
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:28,080
» Good. Thank you. Um, welcome. You are
here joining us tonight

1156
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:32,080
uh for a one-story edition
like to tell us a little bit about Hang

1157
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:36,800
on. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
>> Apologies. I'm like all over the place.

1158
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:40,400
» Switching gears here. Lot lot of papers.
>> Okay. Um, I'll just quickly note the uh

1159
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:42,800
applicants did properly notice for this
evening's hearing. All the content was

1160
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:46,400
good. It was timely served and
published. Um, all the requisite content

1161
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:50,400
was included. So, the board has the
jurisdiction to hear the case in my

1162
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:55,360
humble legal opinion. Um, applicants, we
swear the two of you guys in as well.

1163
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:59,639
» All four of you swear or refer to the
testimony provided with the truth. the

1164
01:58:56,639 --> 01:58:59,639
whole

1165
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:16,760
my name is Chen Su uh 48 concord

1166
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:28,080
here. So uh
you can see you can see from the map uh

1167
01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:33,440
this is our house is 1962
I think the the the build. Yeah. Yeah.

1168
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:38,880
So so it's originally they have a onecar
garage and a little bit bigger than one

1169
01:59:36,239 --> 01:59:43,199
car then the other side like a storage
room kind of like that that kind of

1170
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:48,639
thing. So we want to expand it to make
it to fit the two become a twocar

1171
01:59:45,679 --> 01:59:56,000
garage. So in order to do that we need
to extend the length like 14 and a half

1172
01:59:52,239 --> 02:00:05,080
feet along the driveway. So that make we
uh request this variance to give us 40

1173
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:05,080
head back instead of 50

1174
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:13,199
here. So as you can see this is a corner
lot. So what we we want to build

1175
02:00:11,199 --> 02:00:19,440
actually the in the side lot because
this corner lot. So it's considered as

1176
02:00:16,719 --> 02:00:22,440
front yard. So that's that's created
this.

1177
02:00:23,199 --> 02:00:33,320
Okay. So um essentially we're looking at
um

1178
02:00:29,599 --> 02:00:33,320
10 feet or

1179
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:42,639
the front yard setback right Mr. um Mr.
Schlly

1180
02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:47,840
14.7 feet off.
No sorry 10 feet. So they're existing as

1181
02:00:45,119 --> 02:00:54,239
14.7 and they're going to proposed at 40
ft. Uh so we're 10 ft off and the side

1182
02:00:51,119 --> 02:00:58,599
yard set back
um we're going down to four feet

1183
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:03,239
» for the shed.

1184
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:17,159
Um, so we have some pictures in our
package.

1185
02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:25,360
» Did you take those? Can you tell us who
took those pictures?

1186
02:01:24,639 --> 02:01:31,639
» You have copies?
>> Yes.

1187
02:01:27,599 --> 02:01:31,639
» Can use these if you want to.

1188
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:38,760
» And who took these pictures?

1189
02:01:39,599 --> 02:01:43,639
too. And

1190
02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:58,320
» why don't you just use the package the
ones that are here?

1191
02:01:56,880 --> 02:02:01,280
» Use these if you want and just show
them. Yeah.

1192
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:04,320
» Yeah.
And did you take You said you took these

1193
02:02:03,119 --> 02:02:07,320
pictures. When did you take these
pictures?

1194
02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:14,400
couple of days before I submit the
application. May or something.

1195
02:02:12,639 --> 02:02:17,679
» Okay. So, about May.
>> Yeah.

1196
02:02:15,119 --> 02:02:20,679
» Of 2026.
>> Yeah.

1197
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:30,920
» Um and I we're looking at the garage in
the upper right hand picture.

1198
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:30,920
» Yeah.

1199
02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:43,880
I could see.

1200
02:02:47,679 --> 02:02:50,880
» So, all you're proposing really is to
take this

1201
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:54,080
» Yeah.
>> and create a

1202
02:02:51,920 --> 02:03:00,520
» Yeah. Make it wider and
>> bring it forward a little bit and create

1203
02:02:56,880 --> 02:03:00,520
a twocar garage.

1204
02:03:04,239 --> 02:03:10,800
you able to um look at Mr. Schlly's
review memo?

1205
02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:16,639
» Yeah.
>> Um Mr. Schlly, do you want to walk us

1206
02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:20,679
through your memo?
>> Oh, it's dated September.

1207
02:03:23,119 --> 02:03:32,159
One is is just
corner lot

1208
02:03:28,159 --> 02:03:36,800
house. um
Aces Conquered Lane to the north which

1209
02:03:34,719 --> 02:03:40,560
is
primary front yard as opposed to the

1210
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:45,920
secondary front yard which is really the
side of the house and uh functions in

1211
02:03:43,679 --> 02:03:49,880
that way and that's the direction the
applicant's proposing to

1212
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:54,119
house will effectively move 14

1213
02:03:54,639 --> 02:03:57,760
back where 50

1214
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:07,280
Number three just requires a
clarification on the architectural plans

1215
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:13,080
overhang that existsing.
You're proposing to continue that along

1216
02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:13,080
the new addition.

1217
02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:21,360
» That's your proposal that
>> front of the house.

1218
02:04:19,679 --> 02:04:25,920
» Yes. But underneath there's no
foundation. That's why I didn't put on

1219
02:04:23,599 --> 02:04:31,760
the that uh
all planned there.

1220
02:04:27,119 --> 02:04:35,880
» Okay. But but you're willing so it's all
>> higher front of the new

1221
02:04:37,679 --> 02:04:43,280
» comment number four is just to clarify
the dimensions of the of the shed. I

1222
02:04:41,599 --> 02:04:46,239
believe it's actually 10 x 12. Is that
correct?

1223
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:49,199
» Yes.
>> It's it's 8 by 12.

1224
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:52,199
» 8 by 12. 8 by 12.
>> Yeah.

1225
02:04:53,840 --> 02:05:01,119
Number five is just the not have a lot
coverage problem here.

1226
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:05,760
» However, the calculations on the plan
just need to be cleaned up a little bit

1227
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:09,920
for the zoning off.
>> There's no as far as you're you're under

1228
02:05:08,239 --> 02:05:14,000
your maximum coverage. You're not
proposing so much coverage that you

1229
02:05:12,159 --> 02:05:18,800
would require be required to do so
management. um

1230
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:23,360
heads up that you'll have to clean up
the calculations and so on.

1231
02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:25,520
» I will use this version the the one I
give to

1232
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:30,040
» Yeah. Know I I saw that there's there's
a couple little things, nothing major.

1233
02:05:33,199 --> 02:05:43,719
» Number six, uh you're not removing any
trees. It looks like

1234
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:43,719
not right.

1235
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:51,639
comment number seven. You you'll need to
show on the plan when you submit for

1236
02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:51,639
your permit.

1237
02:05:52,239 --> 02:06:00,400
» Yeah,
>> you'll have to uh quantify that.

1238
02:05:55,760 --> 02:06:07,440
» Yeah, it's about 500 square feet.
500 and 2500 is less.

1239
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:08,480
» That'll the engineering department will
review that.

1240
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:12,080
» Okay.
>> Um it's something you'll have to do even

1241
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:18,239
if you didn't need a variance. We have
to know that if if you if you hit 2500

1242
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:21,239
square feet, you'll have to provide soil
erosion

1243
02:06:25,199 --> 02:06:34,239
eight. uh as part of your your
permitting um work within the Battle

1244
02:06:32,320 --> 02:06:38,000
Hill Road rightway which is your plan
shows that you will be just maybe you

1245
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:42,480
won't end up being
>> I I don't

1246
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:45,920
» be aware that if you uh
right now it shows your driveway will be

1247
02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:51,040
expanded a little bit in the rightway
area. You can certainly trim that back

1248
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:55,960
touch the right of way and it'll be less
paperwork and

1249
02:06:52,480 --> 02:06:55,960
» Yeah. Yeah.

1250
02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:02,760
Mr. Quinn

1251
02:07:09,599 --> 02:07:12,599
one

1252
02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:23,480
Right.

1253
02:07:40,639 --> 02:07:47,679
» I will I will just maintain the existing
driveway because I just draw line there.

1254
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:52,000
» Yeah. Yeah. Because otherwise you're
going to be in the town for a permit.

1255
02:07:53,679 --> 02:08:00,440
I I had some I had some issues with the
scaling on the plan.

1256
02:08:01,280 --> 02:08:07,280
Went through that with Dave and the
engineer.

1257
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:10,280
Had some problems with some of the
scaling.

1258
02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:17,560
That would take care of

1259
02:08:19,520 --> 02:08:25,000
Also note that your impervious cover
calculations seem to improve

1260
02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:32,960
right away.
Three, four or five impervious cover

1261
02:08:30,159 --> 02:08:36,440
calculations that'll be
before you go back.

1262
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:42,119
That's common is typical topography.

1263
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:19,199
Mr. Quinn. Um, and then we have the
environmental uh commission's review

1264
02:09:15,199 --> 02:09:26,000
letter dated June 22nd, 2026.
um plan calculation for coverage in

1265
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:28,239
chart F amount is different for coverage
know that what's that's in reference to

1266
02:09:27,679 --> 02:09:33,199
I don't
>> that's in reference to the the issues

1267
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:39,440
with the coverage calculations that
>> okay so um

1268
02:09:37,679 --> 02:09:42,639
uh the environmental commission notes
that due to the site and surrounding

1269
02:09:40,719 --> 02:09:48,079
topography stormwater best management
practices should be given you're not

1270
02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:52,320
over an impervious coverage here so um
And do you have any issues with your

1271
02:09:49,599 --> 02:09:57,199
water? Any flooding on the property? Any
issues right now with where water is

1272
02:09:53,920 --> 02:10:02,079
going? Um,
that settles two and three.

1273
02:10:00,320 --> 02:10:05,360
Uh, due to the age of the existing
dwelling, the environmental commission

1274
02:10:03,599 --> 02:10:09,440
would like the applicant to be aware for
the potential for inground tanks, lead

1275
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:13,760
paint, and asbestous. Just just take
proper precaution during any if you're

1276
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:19,119
demoing any of the walls or anything or
digging into the ground.

1277
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:24,560
Um, and then they're also asking that
you consider recycling, repurposing, or

1278
02:10:21,119 --> 02:10:30,480
gifting any um of the material that is
demolished from the property. Try to

1279
02:10:27,360 --> 02:10:36,880
repurpose or recycle.
Um, do you have any issues with the

1280
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:39,920
environmental conditions letter?
Um, oh, did you speak with your

1281
02:10:38,719 --> 02:10:44,719
neighbors? Did you speak with any of
your neighbors about this about your

1282
02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:48,960
proposed new garage?
>> I have no issue. Nobody's had nobody has

1283
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:51,920
any problems with it. Um, does anybody
have any questions?

1284
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:56,480
» Another one just because I want to make
sure it's really you said no trees were

1285
02:10:54,239 --> 02:11:01,040
coming but
on the side here

1286
02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:05,920
» I sure it's not much of a tree but
>> very it's unhealthy is very small. So

1287
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:08,880
» it it's fine. Just just make sure for
the record we know you've taken down

1288
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:13,360
» okay one.
>> Thank you. And besides that that's also

1289
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:15,440
one small like this tall.
>> Yeah the little bush. Yeah, that's fine.

1290
02:11:15,119 --> 02:11:19,599
But just
>> Okay, we're relocated.

1291
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:23,280
» That's okay. It's just you want to make
sure that you're accurate when you're

1292
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:27,520
saying that you are taking down a tree.
>> Yeah. Thank you.

1293
02:11:24,719 --> 02:11:31,599
» By the way, I planned like maybe 20
trees on my yard.

1294
02:11:29,199 --> 02:11:34,960
» Yeah. Looking at this, I don't think
that's a problem to take that one down.

1295
02:11:33,199 --> 02:11:37,760
» So, one tree would be removed. Yeah.
>> With the Okay.

1296
02:11:35,679 --> 02:11:42,239
» Yeah. this
slide

1297
02:11:40,159 --> 02:11:48,679
size of the diameter of the
>> if it's under six inch caliper diameter

1298
02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:48,679
it doesn't count

1299
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:57,480
» I know that
>> you're just relocating

1300
02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:57,480
» it would have to be like this big

1301
02:11:59,199 --> 02:12:02,840
» to replace

1302
02:12:06,159 --> 02:12:10,840
plan is to relocate this tree.

1303
02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:16,280
» Not the tree.

1304
02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:23,040
» As part of the permit process, you'll
have to identify it if it's more than

1305
02:12:21,040 --> 02:12:27,320
six.
Measure the diameter of the trunk.

1306
02:12:27,679 --> 02:12:34,800
Mark it on your plan. And the
engineering department keeps track of

1307
02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:40,159
the trees removed.
within a certain number of years.

1308
02:12:38,639 --> 02:12:43,159
Have to do anything right now with this
one.

1309
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:49,880
» Four feet high.

1310
02:12:57,520 --> 02:13:05,199
» Does anybody have any questions? M
>> on the shed. Is the shed built on a

1311
02:13:03,119 --> 02:13:12,679
concrete pad?
I don't think so. I don't know.

1312
02:13:09,679 --> 02:13:12,679
» Probably

1313
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:18,639
hogs go under.
>> I see. So,

1314
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:23,280
» because it was on a concrete pad that
would be difficult to move. So, uh is

1315
02:13:21,119 --> 02:13:27,560
there a reason you don't want to move it
back 10 feet uh to 10 feet?

1316
02:13:33,599 --> 02:13:41,520
I think maybe 20 years more than 20
years old because I recently I just

1317
02:13:38,079 --> 02:13:46,000
changed the roof.
>> Is that old?

1318
02:13:43,679 --> 02:13:48,560
I open the zoo
is

1319
02:13:47,599 --> 02:13:52,520
» 20 years old.
>> Okay. I also changed it.

1320
02:13:52,880 --> 02:13:59,440
I also asked my neighbor about this shed
in here.

1321
02:13:58,079 --> 02:14:01,040
» So you discuss the shed with your
neighbor?

1322
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:07,079
» I ask them. Yeah.
>> Okay. Good. before they move in. Before

1323
02:14:03,040 --> 02:14:07,079
we move in, it's all

1324
02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:13,719
applyation and

1325
02:14:17,840 --> 02:14:26,320
like you have some trees that are kind
of streaming.

1326
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:31,760
Uh it's a huge pine tree but just uh
before I submit this application a storm

1327
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:35,400
just uh
right now is totally

1328
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:48,360
but right now it's a lot of bush.
>> Oh okay bushes bushes are

1329
02:14:44,719 --> 02:14:48,360
» and underneath is

1330
02:15:09,760 --> 02:15:13,320
house. House

1331
02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:31,119
this case
>> as a side.

1332
02:15:28,239 --> 02:15:34,880
» Yeah. If if this was if if Battle Hill
Road was a sideyard as it functions, the

1333
02:15:33,440 --> 02:15:39,360
setback would be 30 feet because the
applicant would be going closer to the

1334
02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:39,360
property line.

1335
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:52,639
It would be compliant.
>> It would be compliant. Yes. Even with

1336
02:15:50,880 --> 02:15:54,800
» if it was a sideyard, but we're counting
it as a front yard.

1337
02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:59,280
» Okay.
>> There was a front yard by virtue of

1338
02:15:57,599 --> 02:16:00,800
» And this is the house, not the shed. We
jumped.

1339
02:15:59,840 --> 02:16:02,960
» We're talking about the house.
>> The house, not the shed.

1340
02:16:01,679 --> 02:16:05,920
» I just wanted to
>> clarifying because we jumped from one

1341
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:10,800
subject to the next.
>> Yes. Um,

1342
02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:15,119
back to the shed. I would assume if
there are any issues with the neighbors,

1343
02:16:12,239 --> 02:16:22,400
you could just screen it trees or um
some shrubs if you know, right? If any

1344
02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:26,239
neighbor had any issues um that so that
I don't really have any comments. Does

1345
02:16:24,079 --> 02:16:31,280
anybody else have any questions or
comments for Does anybody from the

1346
02:16:28,159 --> 02:16:38,080
public have any questions? Um do you
want to give us a summary? I

1347
02:16:34,639 --> 02:16:41,120
» I'll take a stab at it. Um
yeah, there was no public.

1348
02:16:40,240 --> 02:16:50,439
» Thank you.
>> Um okay, two variances. Uh one back of

1349
02:16:44,880 --> 02:16:50,439
the uh principal dwelling by virtue of

1350
02:16:54,399 --> 02:16:58,120
head sideyard setback.

1351
02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:05,160
Um as far as conditions go,

1352
02:17:10,880 --> 02:17:14,760
Oh, I'm sorry. June 22nd.

1353
02:17:17,920 --> 02:17:23,280
» Um, and I didn't ask you. Did you have
anything else you wanted to add? I

1354
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:28,479
should have asked you first before we
summarized. Did you have anything else?

1355
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:33,679
Okay. Um, seeing none. So, uh, does
anybody want to kick us off?

1356
02:17:30,639 --> 02:17:38,880
» Um, sure. Um, I'm not really seeing any
negative impacts here. Um, I think it's

1357
02:17:36,800 --> 02:17:47,280
an improvement to the house to add the
twocar garage. Um, so I'd be in favor of

1358
02:17:43,679 --> 02:17:52,319
approving it. Um, I don't know what
others think, but I don't I don't see

1359
02:17:49,040 --> 02:17:56,399
any negative impact here.
>> Is is that a is that a motion brewing?

1360
02:17:54,639 --> 02:17:59,439
» I can do the motion if you if everyone
agrees.

1361
02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:04,880
» Is that a motion?
>> Okay. Um, so I would make a motion to

1362
02:18:02,240 --> 02:18:12,080
deem the application complete and ask
our board attorney to draft a resolution

1363
02:18:08,000 --> 02:18:19,040
um approving the um set setback
variances that have been requested

1364
02:18:15,040 --> 02:18:23,519
um and that it include all of the um
conditions that our um experts have

1365
02:18:21,920 --> 02:18:29,000
stipulated
um and grant the relief requested by the

1366
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:29,000
applicant.

1367
02:18:30,639 --> 02:18:41,280
garage and then C2 for the
>> Oh, I wasn't thinking C1, but that's

1368
02:18:38,559 --> 02:18:44,880
Is it a hardship here? Uh, in your
opinion,

1369
02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:51,120
» you argued that the corner lot
>> and

1370
02:18:46,880 --> 02:18:57,519
Battle Hill Road was 5yard
side of the house is aligned with

1371
02:18:54,800 --> 02:19:00,559
a garage edition here. That's on those
grounds. It could be argued that yes, a

1372
02:18:59,679 --> 02:19:04,160
C1.
>> Okay. Then yes,

1373
02:19:02,319 --> 02:19:09,359
» argued that
>> I agree with our board attorney on it

1374
02:19:06,639 --> 02:19:16,920
being a C1 and C2
>> and I will go ahead and second it. Thank

1375
02:19:12,160 --> 02:19:16,920
you, Miss Trap. Miss Silver, Miss Trap.

1376
02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:19,920
» Krauss,
>> yes.

1377
02:19:18,960 --> 02:19:21,519
» Leazinski,
>> yes.

1378
02:19:20,479 --> 02:19:23,280
» Mr. Lindamman,
>> yes.

1379
02:19:22,240 --> 02:19:24,559
» Miss Pear,
>> yes.

1380
02:19:23,599 --> 02:19:26,240
» Miss Silver,
>> yes. Miss Trap.

1381
02:19:25,760 --> 02:19:27,840
» Yes.
>> Chairwoman Bowman.

1382
02:19:27,439 --> 02:19:31,120
» Yes.
>> Thank you.

1383
02:19:28,319 --> 02:19:36,120
» Good luck with your project. Thank you.
>> Sorry. Who seconded that motion?

1384
02:19:32,639 --> 02:19:36,120
» Miss Trap.

1385
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:45,240
» Thank you.

1386
02:19:46,960 --> 02:19:53,359
» We uh
>> Yeah.

1387
02:19:50,880 --> 02:19:58,800
» Come on. We're gonna
>> All right. So, next on the agenda is

1388
02:19:55,920 --> 02:20:04,080
Kokoinski. Gregory.
Oh, I'm sorry. Gregory Kokoinski and

1389
02:20:01,120 --> 02:20:10,080
Amanda Hawkstein.
>> Did I get it right? Thank you. Uh, and

1390
02:20:07,040 --> 02:20:16,600
that's block 4102, lot 5. Let me make
sure I'm reading the right. Uh, 28

1391
02:20:11,840 --> 02:20:16,600
Lexington Road, bulk variance, ZB26-02.

1392
02:20:16,640 --> 02:20:19,760
» Yes, correct.
>> Welcome.

1393
02:20:18,560 --> 02:20:22,800
Madam chair, before I swear everybody
in, I'll just note that the applicants

1394
02:20:21,120 --> 02:20:26,319
did provide adequate notice for this
hearing. Uh everything checked out. It's

1395
02:20:25,040 --> 02:20:32,240
good in my legal opinion. The board is
jurisdiction here and decide the case.

1396
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:35,520
So notes version. Let me swear uh the
applicants in as well as uh their

1397
02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:37,840
engineers.
>> All five of you can raise your right

1398
02:20:36,880 --> 02:20:41,680
hands for me. Thank you very much. To
all five of you swear or from testimony

1399
02:20:39,359 --> 02:20:44,319
about the truth, the whole truth.
>> I do.

1400
02:20:42,080 --> 02:20:47,120
» I do much. Uh state your names and
addresses for the record.

1401
02:20:45,439 --> 02:20:50,240
» Sure. My name is Gregory Kokazinski.
live at 28 Lexington Road in Basking

1402
02:20:49,040 --> 02:20:55,680
Ridge.
>> Um, Amanda Hawking, 28 Lexington Road,

1403
02:20:52,640 --> 02:20:59,680
Basking Ridge. Sorry, I'm so close.
>> Microphone's weird.

1404
02:20:56,960 --> 02:21:04,560
» I'm sorry. Find that right balance.
>> Exactly.

1405
02:21:02,319 --> 02:21:07,840
» So, uh, you want to tell us a little bit
about why you're here?

1406
02:21:05,920 --> 02:21:13,520
» Yeah, no problem. Uh, so we moved to
town nine years ago, bought our house,

1407
02:21:10,479 --> 02:21:16,240
had a beautiful pool, patio. Very long
story short, the pool started the

1408
02:21:15,040 --> 02:21:20,160
concrete in the pool started chipping
away at the end of last season. So, we

1409
02:21:18,640 --> 02:21:24,880
knew that it was time to resurface the
pool. And with resurfacing the concrete

1410
02:21:22,560 --> 02:21:28,560
pool, then all the pavs had to come up
from around the pool. And if we were

1411
02:21:27,200 --> 02:21:32,080
doing the paviors up by the pool, we
were going to do the pavers that we

1412
02:21:29,520 --> 02:21:35,439
already had down by the house as well.
So, we started doing this work. I got a

1413
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:39,840
call from the zoning department
essentially saying, "Hey, you need a

1414
02:21:37,439 --> 02:21:44,399
permit for this." which I didn't realize
knowing we were just like essentially

1415
02:21:42,160 --> 02:21:49,920
redoing. I didn't realize what was going
on. We're first-time homeowners. So,

1416
02:21:46,560 --> 02:21:53,040
obviously put a stop on it immediately,
hired an engineer, like went the whole

1417
02:21:51,439 --> 02:21:56,319
nine, went in for the permit, and then
when we applied for the permit, we were

1418
02:21:54,560 --> 02:22:01,760
told we were already over on our
coverage, that we don't have coverage of

1419
02:21:58,560 --> 02:22:06,720
18%. We actually had already had 19.83
when we moved in. So now we're just sort

1420
02:22:04,880 --> 02:22:10,319
of back at square one trying to figure
out the project trying to So we're just

1421
02:22:09,280 --> 02:22:13,760
trying to make our backyard a little
nicer, trying to put in some new brick,

1422
02:22:12,319 --> 02:22:18,080
make it a little bigger. We've already
tried uh to pull back on the coverage in

1423
02:22:16,800 --> 02:22:22,000
existing places where we already have
it. We have a shed in the backyard that

1424
02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:25,760
we'll get rid of. Uh a couple other
spots around the house that we're trying

1425
02:22:23,359 --> 02:22:30,399
to trim back on,
but that's more or less where we're at

1426
02:22:27,200 --> 02:22:34,880
right now. We're not trying to come for
some crazy percentage. We just want to

1427
02:22:33,040 --> 02:22:39,640
make it a little nicer and a little
bigger. And that's more

1428
02:22:39,760 --> 02:22:43,319
» who took these photographs.

1429
02:22:45,359 --> 02:22:49,680
» Oh, okay. Uh, our landscaper, Scott
Parker.

1430
02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:51,439
» Okay. And do you know approximately when
you were

1431
02:22:50,080 --> 02:22:54,720
» I would assume in April.
>> Okay. And uh these accurately depict the

1432
02:22:53,760 --> 02:22:57,760
subject property.
>> Yes.

1433
02:22:55,120 --> 02:22:59,840
» Yes.
>> I had to talk to your neighbors about

1434
02:22:59,120 --> 02:23:03,760
the project.
>> Yes. So, uh, the Rothbards who were just

1435
02:23:02,399 --> 02:23:08,080
approved for their variants, they live
right behind us. We've talked Yeah. Uh,

1436
02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:11,120
» so we've been talking a lot about
varants.

1437
02:23:08,880 --> 02:23:15,840
» Yes. And both neighbors on both sides
and across the street, no problems.

1438
02:23:13,040 --> 02:23:19,280
Everybody's on board. Some people did
threaten to come as like a rooting

1439
02:23:17,200 --> 02:23:22,840
section, but they they stayed home.
>> Lucky for them.

1440
02:23:22,880 --> 02:23:25,880
Um,

1441
02:23:26,800 --> 02:23:32,560
» so you're essentially you've essentially
been sort of reconstructing what was

1442
02:23:30,720 --> 02:23:37,600
already there. Yes. When you purchased
the house. Um, all right. So, does

1443
02:23:34,960 --> 02:23:40,479
anybody have any questions?
>> Um, we're going to motor this along.

1444
02:23:39,439 --> 02:23:44,479
Does anybody have any questions?
>> You didn't do any work yet. It's just

1445
02:23:42,160 --> 02:23:47,200
» No, we we started doing work in April
and that was when I got the call from

1446
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:50,479
somebody in the zoning department.
>> This is asis. It's a I mean that's

1447
02:23:49,200 --> 02:23:52,479
» that's what it was before we started the
work.

1448
02:23:50,880 --> 02:23:54,399
» Oh, and you so you took up some of the
of the papers already. Okay.

1449
02:23:54,080 --> 02:23:57,200
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

1450
02:23:55,840 --> 02:24:01,520
» So, is it correct that you're I'm
looking at this your existing was

1451
02:23:59,840 --> 02:24:05,200
» 20
>> I I don't I didn't know where that

1452
02:24:02,880 --> 02:24:08,960
number came from because the initial
>> the initial word I got from the town

1453
02:24:07,520 --> 02:24:11,600
when we applied for the permit was that
you're already at 19.83.

1454
02:24:11,200 --> 02:24:14,560
» Okay.
>> So, I don't know where the 20.54 came

1455
02:24:14,080 --> 02:24:20,359
from.
>> Okay. And then your proposed is 19.81.

1456
02:24:17,359 --> 02:24:20,359
81.

1457
02:24:27,600 --> 02:24:31,800
» Okay.
>> Oh, okay.

1458
02:24:32,800 --> 02:24:36,240
» They're all off on this chart for some
reason.

1459
02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:40,319
» Yeah.
>> So, why don't we um if you're going to

1460
02:24:38,880 --> 02:24:47,000
Why don't you come on up? You can even
sit at that

1461
02:24:42,399 --> 02:24:47,000
um chair right there and participate.

1462
02:24:48,800 --> 02:24:57,960
question or was that
>> engineer Mr. Galler

1463
02:24:54,560 --> 02:24:57,960
and uh

1464
02:24:58,240 --> 02:25:07,040
» sure um can everybody hear me? Um it's
Anthony Gallerano with the firm of

1465
02:25:03,680 --> 02:25:16,520
Harbor Consultants. Uh I'm a licensed
engineer, licensed planner since 1988.

1466
02:25:10,880 --> 02:25:16,520
My uh education uh is a bachelor

1467
02:25:20,000 --> 02:25:29,680
Um since then I have testified
throughout the state on various uh

1468
02:25:26,720 --> 02:25:36,920
I also provide uh consulting services to
various boards and municipalities

1469
02:25:32,240 --> 02:25:36,920
uh in the capacity of engineer and

1470
02:25:40,080 --> 02:25:45,600
um I was planning on doing both uh
talking about going through the site

1471
02:25:44,000 --> 02:25:50,720
plan, you know, the plot plan first and
then just finishing up with the barrel.

1472
02:25:49,359 --> 02:25:52,160
» You said your license is in good
standing.

1473
02:25:51,200 --> 02:25:59,600
» Yes, still.
>> Thank you. We will accept you as an

1474
02:25:54,160 --> 02:26:02,319
expert. Thank you. Um,
want to Is there anything else that you

1475
02:26:01,359 --> 02:26:07,120
want to add before we
>> Fine, Tony K,

1476
02:26:04,640 --> 02:26:11,120
if you could just because you picked it
up. You were giving some.

1477
02:26:08,960 --> 02:26:13,920
» Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just just real
quick. I don't want to take away this

1478
02:26:12,319 --> 02:26:18,319
time, but just this is our you know plan
that was submitted to the uh to the

1479
02:26:15,600 --> 02:26:22,160
board and um we we were retained after
the work was already started. Um

1480
02:26:20,319 --> 02:26:26,080
fortunately the contractor did have the
before pictures. So before that work was

1481
02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:32,399
started we actually had pictures
document what was there but um

1482
02:26:28,640 --> 02:26:35,920
fortunately there was a 2017 survey that
the applicant had from when he bought

1483
02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:41,520
the property. So we have a good snapshot
of what was on the ground u before the

1484
02:26:39,200 --> 02:26:47,040
work was started. Uh we then went out
and did a supplemental survey and up on

1485
02:26:44,160 --> 02:26:51,439
the top um left of the of the of the
plan is the um kind of the asbuilt

1486
02:26:50,080 --> 02:26:55,600
what's there now. This is kind of the
work in progress. We went out and we

1487
02:26:53,359 --> 02:27:00,560
surveyed what was on the ground just to
establish um what the the coverages are.

1488
02:26:58,880 --> 02:27:08,479
And then on the top right is what the
applicant is proposing um which is uh

1489
02:27:05,920 --> 02:27:14,960
continue to finish the work uh complete
the papers uh and um again that's why

1490
02:27:12,880 --> 02:27:20,080
they're here asking for the variance. Um
they are planning to remove the shed and

1491
02:27:17,760 --> 02:27:24,479
some of the existing sidewalk uh in
order to help you know mitigate the the

1492
02:27:22,240 --> 02:27:28,080
additional
moving a shed removing some existing

1493
02:27:26,560 --> 02:27:32,240
sidewalks
uh and then again to help uh get bal

1494
02:27:30,560 --> 02:27:37,760
balance.
So um just to get into the numbers um

1495
02:27:35,760 --> 02:27:43,760
again there was a question about what
the uh

1496
02:27:39,840 --> 02:27:48,880
coverage were. So we we um actually
forgot to include the uh the pool pad,

1497
02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:54,080
the pump pad for the pool, the generator
pad and the air conditioning pads. So

1498
02:27:51,840 --> 02:27:59,040
that actually add it adds an additional
55 square ft. So um the numbers are a

1499
02:27:57,840 --> 02:28:04,399
little different than what we had on the
plan but if we look at the pre-existing

1500
02:28:01,600 --> 02:28:10,560
conditions what was there what we
documented in 2017

1501
02:28:07,120 --> 02:28:16,399
uh the impervious coverage was 7,399
square ft which equated to n equates to

1502
02:28:13,439 --> 02:28:23,840
19.97%.
uh what's there now with the work that's

1503
02:28:18,479 --> 02:28:29,120
in progress uh equates to 7,666
square feet of total impervious which is

1504
02:28:26,399 --> 02:28:32,880
2069%
and what we're showing as the proposed

1505
02:28:31,439 --> 02:28:41,760
with everything being removed and
adjusted is 7,397

1506
02:28:36,640 --> 02:28:46,080
square ft uh which equates to 19.96%
when um we were first retained

1507
02:28:44,560 --> 02:28:50,880
» we were going for the 26 Well, I'm I'm
I'm going to get there. So, um when we

1508
02:28:49,439 --> 02:28:54,479
were first retained, the first thing we
did, we we put our plan together,

1509
02:28:52,640 --> 02:28:59,200
submitted it to the zoning officer, we
weren't aware either that uh we know it

1510
02:28:56,960 --> 02:29:04,080
was over the 18%. Uh but we weren't
aware that um apparently there was no

1511
02:29:01,439 --> 02:29:09,040
record of previous permits. Um so, when
they bought the property in 2017, this

1512
02:29:06,479 --> 02:29:12,399
is what was there. Um you know, nobody
had any idea whether were permits or

1513
02:29:10,720 --> 02:29:16,720
not. Most people don't don't know that
and really don't know what their

1514
02:29:13,600 --> 02:29:23,200
coverage is. Um, so then that's why we
we we submitted the app.

1515
02:29:20,080 --> 02:29:27,840
Um, looking at the um the pictures,
looking at the style of the pavers, the

1516
02:29:25,280 --> 02:29:31,680
amount of weathering, I my estimate is
they're probably at least 30 years old.

1517
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:35,120
Um, just looking at the style, looking
at the way they're weathered. I we've

1518
02:29:33,520 --> 02:29:40,240
done a lot of these. I've seen a lot of
papers over the years. Kind of get a

1519
02:29:37,280 --> 02:29:45,200
feel for the age of how old they are.
Um, so I know we submitted the

1520
02:29:43,200 --> 02:29:48,720
application, we to the zoning officer,
we're trying to match what was there.

1521
02:29:46,880 --> 02:29:53,920
That's what ended up in the application
here tonight. Um, looking back and

1522
02:29:51,760 --> 02:29:59,040
discussing it with the applicant. They
would like try to keep what's on the

1523
02:29:55,760 --> 02:30:04,720
ground, which is the 20.69%.
Um, again, I I kind of pushed them to do

1524
02:30:02,319 --> 02:30:10,640
the 19.96. I was trying to just match
what was there, but since they were

1525
02:30:06,560 --> 02:30:17,120
coming here, I you know, we maybe just
um percentage. So uh you know it's it's

1526
02:30:13,600 --> 02:30:26,240
18% is permitted what is upon
pre-existing 19.97 they would

1527
02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:32,720
average it would be 20 uh 69%. So it's
um you know less than a 1% percent

1528
02:30:30,319 --> 02:30:36,479
increase in the cover.
um

1529
02:30:34,319 --> 02:30:40,479
the the physical characteristics of the
site, the everything drains from the

1530
02:30:38,560 --> 02:30:45,439
back to the to the front. So all the
runoff goes from the back of the

1531
02:30:41,920 --> 02:30:51,280
property and runs out uh into Lexington.
Um there's no runoff either currently or

1532
02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:56,720
proposed that would go on to any
um actually the uh they're taking

1533
02:30:53,120 --> 02:31:02,000
actually some runoff from the adjoining
pre-existing runoff pattern. It is what

1534
02:30:58,800 --> 02:31:05,680
it is. Um there's no um proposal to
really regrade the property. The grades

1535
02:31:04,000 --> 02:31:12,240
are stay
uh just the disturbance is really just

1536
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:17,280
limited to around the pool and
area in the rear.

1537
02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:24,479
So which lends itself to the uh you know
leads into the variance. Um obviously

1538
02:31:20,000 --> 02:31:30,560
it's a it's a C2 variance. Um
from the negative criteria standpoint we

1539
02:31:26,960 --> 02:31:30,560
really don't see any impact.

1540
02:31:31,600 --> 02:31:39,080
um run
property. Uh there's no trees being

1541
02:31:36,080 --> 02:31:39,080
removed.

1542
02:31:40,640 --> 02:31:47,760
Patio actually in the rear, you know,
it's kind of tucked in behind the house,

1543
02:31:46,000 --> 02:31:52,359
the garage, so it's really not even
visible. Um it's

1544
02:31:53,600 --> 02:31:57,880
fielded on or screened on

1545
02:31:58,080 --> 02:32:06,160
um so again I I don't I don't see that
having having any negative impact uh

1546
02:32:03,439 --> 02:32:11,840
from the uh positive criteria. This is
really a I call it a modernization of

1547
02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:18,800
the property. Um
significant uh aesthetic improvement

1548
02:32:15,359 --> 02:32:23,520
favors uh coming in with newer um new
papers, modern papers,

1549
02:32:21,760 --> 02:32:29,439
papers have come a long way since the
90s, you know, as far as styles, colors,

1550
02:32:25,840 --> 02:32:33,680
textures, uh and it selection then today
there's like a million different styles

1551
02:32:31,359 --> 02:32:39,120
and patterns, colors that you you can
pick.

1552
02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:45,319
I think that the uh again the both
criteria are met. My opinion, I think

1553
02:32:41,760 --> 02:32:45,319
the balance system

1554
02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:52,840
And that's all I have as far as as
direct

1555
02:32:53,520 --> 02:32:56,880
fence around the pool and then around
the property.

1556
02:32:55,600 --> 02:33:00,960
» There is just a fence around the
property. There was there was a fence

1557
02:32:58,800 --> 02:33:04,000
around the pool originally when the
papers came up. The fence is no.

1558
02:33:02,319 --> 02:33:08,520
» Okay. So the black fence that we've seen
the pictures removed. Okay.

1559
02:33:10,240 --> 02:33:17,760
» Um and Mr. Quinn, do you see any need
for um

1560
02:33:15,200 --> 02:33:22,439
water mitigation measures here. I don't
think we have no

1561
02:33:35,359 --> 02:33:39,000
800 square ft.

1562
02:33:39,760 --> 02:33:45,080
Not over on effective impervious car.

1563
02:34:09,359 --> 02:34:12,359
Back

1564
02:34:12,640 --> 02:34:15,640
there.

1565
02:34:17,920 --> 02:34:20,920
Before

1566
02:34:25,280 --> 02:34:34,240
you go on in to that point, um
your numbers are are just a little bit

1567
02:34:32,640 --> 02:34:40,800
different from what you originally asked
and what you're asking now. So, does the

1568
02:34:37,439 --> 02:34:46,960
um proposed conditions plan that we're
looking at accurately depict what you're

1569
02:34:43,680 --> 02:34:51,520
asking for? Is that the 20.69 69 or are
we going to have a little bit more PA by

1570
02:34:49,359 --> 02:34:56,800
the patio by the house?
>> Yeah, it would be additional um like

1571
02:34:54,319 --> 02:34:59,800
what you see what what's in the existing
condition

1572
02:34:59,840 --> 02:35:09,280
on the proposed conditions is taking
back some of these papers.

1573
02:35:06,319 --> 02:35:15,359
That's what's what you see
basically look like um show an existing

1574
02:35:13,439 --> 02:35:21,319
condition.
I mean the papers some of the papers

1575
02:35:17,040 --> 02:35:21,319
around the pool weren't laid down yet.

1576
02:35:21,359 --> 02:35:27,880
Idea would be to finish pavers around
the pool and then keep

1577
02:35:28,319 --> 02:35:35,040
and then how about the walkway that's
proposed on your proposed plan? Would

1578
02:35:33,200 --> 02:35:38,800
you have that in addition to what's
showing on the existing condition?

1579
02:35:37,040 --> 02:35:43,040
» Yeah, they like to have that just to
connect the the patio to the to the pool

1580
02:35:40,960 --> 02:35:45,760
» and that's in the 20.6
>> that's already included. Yes.

1581
02:35:44,319 --> 02:35:50,560
» And what about the shed? Are you still
removing that or no?

1582
02:35:47,840 --> 02:35:52,720
» Are you still removing the shed?
Are you still proposing to remove the

1583
02:35:52,160 --> 02:35:58,359
shed?
>> Yeah. with the help get this across

1584
02:35:59,359 --> 02:36:06,560
» shown on the existing condition demo
plan as to be removed saying you're not

1585
02:36:05,680 --> 02:36:09,200
removing that now.
>> Well, they would like to keep

1586
02:36:07,760 --> 02:36:12,600
» we'd like to keep it and finish the work
at this point.

1587
02:36:13,040 --> 02:36:21,280
» We're going to remove that. Okay.
>> Step back is what you said. That's why I

1588
02:36:19,280 --> 02:36:26,840
asked if you wanted to keep that you got
>> No problem. Not removing these papers.

1589
02:36:33,040 --> 02:36:36,520
» Yeah. 20.7.

1590
02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:40,439
That's about 996.

1591
02:36:55,280 --> 02:37:03,399
» Oh yeah. Total square. Yeah. Total total
different.

1592
02:37:00,000 --> 02:37:03,399
Um they'reable.

1593
02:37:06,479 --> 02:37:14,120
60. It's 6,670
is allow

1594
02:37:11,120 --> 02:37:14,120
70,000

1595
02:37:15,439 --> 02:37:22,840
square feet,
>> but our typical threshold is for

1596
02:37:24,479 --> 02:37:29,960
» but again I would notice of that 800

1597
02:37:30,640 --> 02:37:35,560
square ft of effective impervious cover

1598
02:37:35,840 --> 02:37:41,000
wanted to make provides storm water
management.

1599
02:37:46,399 --> 02:37:54,280
» What What would that look like?
>> Uh um

1600
02:37:51,280 --> 02:37:54,280
» drywall.

1601
02:38:05,120 --> 02:38:10,479
I said a rain barrel.
>> Even better. That's great.

1602
02:38:09,359 --> 02:38:13,280
» Couple rain barrels.
>> I mean,

1603
02:38:11,200 --> 02:38:17,680
» like 30 or 35 gallons. So,
>> yeah. Yeah. Like to do with patios.

1604
02:38:15,840 --> 02:38:24,240
Patios is kind of a challenge to get the
water direct

1605
02:38:20,960 --> 02:38:29,560
in the past. Uh like on the low side of
the patio run an infiltration train.

1606
02:38:35,040 --> 02:38:40,960
Yeah, I can work that out with Tom and
we could work out those details.

1607
02:38:38,080 --> 02:38:44,600
» That sounds sensible in his case.
>> It might be over.

1608
02:38:47,680 --> 02:38:54,880
» A a concrete patio. Yes. But a paper
patio.

1609
02:38:51,680 --> 02:38:58,920
» Well, yeah. Initially, no, because they
have sand in between.

1610
02:39:04,479 --> 02:39:07,720
put that into.

1611
02:39:10,080 --> 02:39:19,439
» So Tom, do we want to um do you want to
finish your since we were on your your

1612
02:39:16,560 --> 02:39:24,640
uh memo anyway?
>> Talked about the discover Tony added the

1613
02:39:22,160 --> 02:39:29,600
pads that were talked about. Oh yeah,
and you actually I see

1614
02:39:30,560 --> 02:39:36,560
We're not going over whatever you give
us.

1615
02:39:33,680 --> 02:39:42,359
» Yeah, you got it.
>> Also, there's no there's I don't know if

1616
02:39:39,120 --> 02:39:42,359
has you

1617
02:39:46,880 --> 02:39:52,520
» aware that you may or

1618
02:39:54,080 --> 02:40:01,319
» No problem.
>> No problem.

1619
02:39:57,439 --> 02:40:01,319
Okay. God, that was

1620
02:40:05,920 --> 02:40:12,640
» okay. Um, can we be clear on what the
number is because we said 20.69 or 20.7.

1621
02:40:10,960 --> 02:40:18,840
Are you saying 20?
>> I was just rounding it up. I mean, I the

1622
02:40:14,720 --> 02:40:18,840
exact calculation was 20.

1623
02:40:24,080 --> 02:40:30,840
We'll take seven just to have a little
>> buffer

1624
02:40:27,280 --> 02:40:30,840
» little buffer room.

1625
02:40:31,520 --> 02:40:40,520
» Uh Mr. Schlly
>> like to address anything in your memo.

1626
02:40:49,439 --> 02:40:57,040
One point there is the uh excess
coverage is patio and at the pool and

1627
02:40:55,359 --> 02:40:59,680
the patio behind the house at some
point.

1628
02:40:57,520 --> 02:41:04,479
» Sorry.
>> I'm at number four. sure if there's

1629
02:41:00,880 --> 02:41:11,200
going to be any exterior lighting
and all that.

1630
02:41:07,680 --> 02:41:14,200
» Five, any trees removed?
>> No.

1631
02:41:16,960 --> 02:41:23,640
» Which
permitted the engineering

1632
02:41:37,359 --> 02:41:40,359
Yeah.

1633
02:41:54,640 --> 02:41:57,640
» Yes.

1634
02:42:02,160 --> 02:42:06,280
Edstein, do you have any questions?

1635
02:42:06,319 --> 02:42:10,439
» Edstein, do you have any comments?

1636
02:42:11,439 --> 02:42:19,840
» Is anybody sleeping in the background?
>> Um,

1637
02:42:18,080 --> 02:42:25,240
read all the stipulations in the in the
memos. And um, does anybody have any

1638
02:42:22,240 --> 02:42:25,240
questions?

1639
02:42:25,840 --> 02:42:34,479
Um before we go, not counting
deliberations, any comments? Um did you

1640
02:42:30,880 --> 02:42:39,200
have anything else you wanted to add?
>> No.

1641
02:42:36,479 --> 02:42:44,080
Um we get to go to a summary.
>> Yep.

1642
02:42:41,840 --> 02:42:49,520
» Applicants are seeking a
>> time out. I'm sorry. I had a question.

1643
02:42:47,200 --> 02:42:54,399
» How well screened are you in the back? I
see trees

1644
02:42:51,520 --> 02:42:57,960
into your neighbors properties. Uh,
let's see. The Millers,

1645
02:43:01,280 --> 02:43:08,000
» I don't know what that is.
>> Um, it's not it's not necessarily

1646
02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:11,439
required as as far as like trees. Um,
with pools, we typically look to have,

1647
02:43:10,399 --> 02:43:14,160
you know, privacy.
>> Oh, yeah. We we have hedges behind the

1648
02:43:13,439 --> 02:43:17,920
pool.
>> Okay.

1649
02:43:14,720 --> 02:43:22,120
» And then
for 14, there's hedges behind

1650
02:43:23,920 --> 02:43:26,920
Yeah.

1651
02:43:27,520 --> 02:43:31,720
» There was the shed was giving

1652
02:43:33,040 --> 02:43:37,840
» and there's like a row of of trees
between us and the Roth bars directly

1653
02:43:37,200 --> 02:43:39,920
behind us.
>> Okay.

1654
02:43:38,560 --> 02:43:45,200
» Yeah, not a problem if we have to put
something along the border of

1655
02:43:42,960 --> 02:43:50,080
» um
walked in the backyard and the trees in

1656
02:43:46,960 --> 02:43:52,640
the back my my recollection is they were
more

1657
02:43:53,520 --> 02:44:00,760
You're talking about the trees are
budding 14.

1658
02:43:56,160 --> 02:44:00,760
» Um budding 14. Yes.

1659
02:44:00,880 --> 02:44:04,000
» Massive trees.
>> Yeah.

1660
02:44:02,960 --> 02:44:08,600
» They're they're
>> I think I believe they're evergreen. I

1661
02:44:05,520 --> 02:44:08,600
don't think

1662
02:44:09,040 --> 02:44:14,399
» but it was somewhat open to some of the
other

1663
02:44:11,279 --> 02:44:18,000
» Okay. Um so maybe like in the area of
the shed consider putting some you know

1664
02:44:17,359 --> 02:44:20,960
» happily.
>> Sure.

1665
02:44:21,439 --> 02:44:27,520
something that's native to New Jersey
that what would thrive and maybe stay

1666
02:44:25,200 --> 02:44:29,200
green all year round.
>> Privacy in your neighbor's privacy.

1667
02:44:28,960 --> 02:44:32,000
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1668
02:44:30,399 --> 02:44:38,160
» Not looking for total screening, but
just create a semblance of privacy so

1669
02:44:34,479 --> 02:44:44,160
nobody's really looking in and
um that being said, any other questions

1670
02:44:40,479 --> 02:44:48,920
or comments? Not I seeing none. Um
sorry, Mr. Subieski, if you would take

1671
02:44:45,920 --> 02:44:48,920
back

1672
02:44:50,560 --> 02:44:56,680
One lot one variants being requested lot
coverage ratio

1673
02:45:14,000 --> 02:45:18,319
water management measures to mitigate
coverage exceedence.

1674
02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:32,200
200 square feet to cover 200 square.

1675
02:45:33,760 --> 02:45:39,560
Then the other condition landscape
screening

1676
02:45:45,120 --> 02:45:52,439
want to um comments, questions or no
questions comments kick us off.

1677
02:45:55,359 --> 02:46:03,439
Anybody want to make a motion? Somebody
want to make a motion?

1678
02:45:58,720 --> 02:46:07,760
» I can do it. Uh, I see this as a C2
variance and would like to make a motion

1679
02:46:05,600 --> 02:46:12,080
to deem the application complete and
direct the board attorney to draft the

1680
02:46:09,840 --> 02:46:15,080
resolution memorializing the variance
request.

1681
02:46:15,680 --> 02:46:19,600
» Grant the relief requested by the
applicants.

1682
02:46:18,399 --> 02:46:24,240
» I'll second.
>> Well done, Miss Trap and Mr. Krauss.

1683
02:46:23,200 --> 02:46:25,920
» Mr. Krauss,
>> yes.

1684
02:46:24,720 --> 02:46:27,359
» Mr. Leazinski,
>> yes.

1685
02:46:26,399 --> 02:46:30,160
» Mr. Lindamman,
>> yes. Miss Pur,

1686
02:46:29,279 --> 02:46:31,439
» Miss Silver,
>> yes.

1687
02:46:30,560 --> 02:46:33,040
» Miss Trap,
>> yes.

1688
02:46:31,840 --> 02:46:34,000
» Chairwoman Bowman,
>> yes.

1689
02:46:33,439 --> 02:46:36,560
» Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. Good luck.

1690
02:46:35,279 --> 02:46:38,560
» Thank you very much for your time
tonight.

1691
02:46:37,520 --> 02:46:43,359
» Good night.
>> Finish the project.

1692
02:46:40,319 --> 02:46:46,960
» Uh, next on the agenda,
uh, is the 2025 zoning board of

1693
02:46:45,359 --> 02:46:53,080
adjustment annual report and
recommendations. My recommendation is we

1694
02:46:48,960 --> 02:46:53,080
are going to kick that can.

1695
02:46:53,920 --> 02:46:58,080
» Um,
>> great report. Yeah,

1696
02:46:55,680 --> 02:47:03,040
» great report. Um, but I think we're
going to look maybe to address this at

1697
02:46:59,920 --> 02:47:08,560
another at the next meeting.
>> I'll be here.

1698
02:47:06,160 --> 02:47:11,760
» Um, did was anybody dying to talk about
that tonight?

1699
02:47:09,040 --> 02:47:18,160
» Any comments to mention tonight?
>> Um, no. I I just Sorry. I just have one

1700
02:47:14,960 --> 02:47:20,240
question though because sheds come up a
lot here.

1701
02:47:19,040 --> 02:47:24,960
» Yep.
10 feet off of the property line. For so

1702
02:47:23,439 --> 02:47:29,680
many people, that practically puts the
shed in the middle of their backyard as

1703
02:47:27,840 --> 02:47:33,600
opposed to trying to be on the side
where you want it out of the way and you

1704
02:47:31,600 --> 02:47:36,479
can enjoy your property space a little
bit better. I mean,

1705
02:47:34,720 --> 02:47:40,279
» that might be an excellent suggestion
for the annual report.

1706
02:47:41,120 --> 02:47:46,560
» There we go.
>> That we're going to discuss at the next

1707
02:47:44,240 --> 02:47:49,960
meeting. That's I just wanted to
>> or the next meeting.

1708
02:47:50,640 --> 02:47:54,960
Um, so do I have to say anything to
Carrie? We're just going to carry that

1709
02:47:54,160 --> 02:47:58,479
item.
>> Yeah, it's not a hearing or anything.

1710
02:47:56,880 --> 02:48:00,240
So, just whenever we get to
>> um,

1711
02:47:58,800 --> 02:48:03,359
» let's keep it on the agenda.
>> Other than Miss Trap's excellent

1712
02:48:01,840 --> 02:48:07,040
suggestion, do we have any other
comments from members?

1713
02:48:05,359 --> 02:48:11,120
» Comments from staff.
>> Do we have a motion to adjurnn?

1714
02:48:09,600 --> 02:48:18,439
» I'll make a motion to adjurnn.
>> I'll second it quickly. Octar and Miss

1715
02:48:14,000 --> 02:48:18,439
Trap. All in favor? I

1716
02:48:19,120 --> 02:48:22,120
question.