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[laughter]
All right. Um

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8:30. Uh this is a meeting for the burn
distance review board. We have a quorum

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this morning and uh order the business
meeting. Our first item is approval of

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minutes from our July 15 meeting.
>> Mayor.

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» Yeah. If if I could [clears throat]
before we go into the order of business

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meeting and go through the approval of
minutes and property review and new

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properties, [laughter]
there's enough new people here in the

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audience. I guess if it's okay, I'd just
like to make a couple [clears throat]

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editorial comments before we get
started. So, appreciate everyone being

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here. Um, just to make sure that we're
all on the same page as we start our

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discussions. The nuisance review board
was established two years ago and this

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group
that meets once a month is responsible

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for reviewing complaint forms that have
been submitted to the city for

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consideration and to be addressed. So
that's what this board every member has

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been established to do. So our job as
individuals on the nuisance review board

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is to sit in a meeting [clears throat]
kind of be the I guess mediators of

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neighborhood concerns and issues and to
review those you know complaint forms

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that have been submitted. So that's what
we've all been requested to do this

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board and that's what we're going to do
this morning. We have, I would say, a

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record number of properties to review
today. So, this meeting is going to take

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a little bit of time. It's going to take
a little bit of patience. And what I

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hope we will do is that I hope we'll
methodically and compassionately

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go through each of these properties,
discuss them, and with deser discernment

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come up with what the right
recommendation as a nuisance review

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board would be.
So, that's kind of what I want to just

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throw out there to set the stage for the
meeting even before we get into any of

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the property reviews. Um so so mayor one
one question I would have an addition

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before we get started you know as we go
through the properties I think in the

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past you know as we've gone through
property by property

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you know if there's anyone in attendance
that has input on that property

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I think it's fair for them to provide
their input at that point in

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[clears throat] time while we're
discussing

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not not after we've made a decision,
while we're making the discussion, while

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we're having the dialogue. So, that that
would be a suggestion I would have. I

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know with the last meeting, we did that
with one of the properties and I thought

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it worked effectively. So, anyways,
that's my soap box and my two cents

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before we get going. So, thank you for
listening. Okay. Um, [laughter]

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so
are we I [clears throat] think we I

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don't think we approved the minutes.
>> No, I I jumped in before that. I would

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make a motion we approve the July 15th
burn nations review board meeting

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minutes as presented.
>> Okay. So, there's a motion on the floor.

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Is there a second?
>> I'll second it.

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» Second by Cal. All in favor signify by
saying I.

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» I post same sign.
Okay. Um the next item on the agenda is

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property review. Um that is previous
properties that that have had complaints

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filed against them. Um and
our first property is u

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753 North Carolina Street.
Um [clears throat]

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there are photos there from July and
August.

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Um,
so going back to the last meeting,

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[clears throat]
I believe, which was on July the 15th,

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we just approved meeting minutes limits.
So at that meeting, we were going to

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send a grass and weed letter. Um, and I
believe we we say in the review of

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properties documentation we have in
front of us that that was sent via

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certified mail on July the 16th.
So my question, no one's currently

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living in that property. So where do we
send it? Did we send the water bill to a

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another address that
>> it goes to where their um property taxes

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go? They're outside Decator in the
country.

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» Okay. So that's where they get their
water built also then I'm assuming.

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» Yeah.
>> Okay. And that's where we would have

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sent the certified letter.
>> Mhm. [clears throat]

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» So do we do we know that they received
it? Did we have

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» Yeah. The receipt.
>> Okay. So they received it. Um, and for

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the grass and and weed letter, they were
given the normal 10 days to remediate.

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And
I don't know, in my opinion, it doesn't

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look like they've remediated. [laughter]
>> Well, if that was sent mid July, we're

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in mid August now. And it's rained a
lot.

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And I would say this looks pretty normal
for being cut. And then we've received a

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lot of rain and
my yard grew a lot in this past week. So

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I don't know if you can say this is a
month's worth of growth or did they mow

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it and this is a couple weeks worth of
growth.

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» Okay.
>> Hard for me to tell.

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» Yeah.
Then from a I guess from a process

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perspective,
I mean would we have checked them 10

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days after
they would have received the letter so

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that we know what it was on July the
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» Ron, is this the is the owner Vicky
Ellis?

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» Yeah,
>> I think you talked with her. You

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mentioned you talked with her a number a
number of weeks ago.

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» She was at one of our meetings
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» So she owns she owns this letter.

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» So So to Chief Taylor's, you know,
point.

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» I don't know whether it was in good
shape 10 days after the certified letter

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arrived in [clears throat] July or not.
So, I guess we can't really say yes or

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no on that for sure.
>> I would think that I would bet on it

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that it was weeks before.

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» So, what
>> you handle it the way you think is best,

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but this is not just happened in the
last two weeks.

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What what I would recommend since we've
been down this road with them before

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that we send another grass and weed
letter certified

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and that we
>> follow up at 10 days and if it has not

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been remediated then we take steps to
remediate like we would normally do. And

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I guess the other thing I would
recommend when we add some sort of cover

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letter to these letters that we mail
out, we seem to get better response

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because we tell them specifically what
the issue is and the concern is in the

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case of this one.
They're not from burn. They're not

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living in the property. So they need to
make sure they're mowing when they're

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working on the property. When they come
down to do their construction work, they

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need to mow, you know, just like they
were living in it. So that that would be

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my motion. And I think we need to need
need to send them another grass and weed

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letter and we need to also include some
sort of cover letter that hey

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you need to take care of your property
not living.

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» What would be the time [clears throat]
>> on a on a grass and weed letter? It's

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always they got 10 days to remediate.
So, we send out mowing letters that are

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five days,
>> which I'm fine with five days.

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» So,
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» if I would say if it's just mowing, if
it's over the 8 in, normally we have

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police go out and measure. If it's over
the 8 in, we send a mowing letter

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» and then we follow up in five. If they
haven't mowed it, the city can either

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mow it or we can pay someone to
>> and maybe the reason why it wasn't

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checked up was it wasn't a mowing
letter. It was a business letter.

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» Yeah. those we stay on top of and check
up with and then we invoice them for if

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we would do that.
>> I think that would be a better solution

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for this because it's a shorter time
period. There's better followup for more

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followup. [laughter] So, I would alter
my motion to sending a mowing letter by

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certified mail to the owner um and then
follow up on it and if it's not

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remediate. the other things that we've
talked to them about as far as keeping

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the yard and stuff cleaned up while
they're working on the property in the

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backyard. They're doing that. It's the
front yard that is on Jefferson Street.

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It just doesn't look very good and it
needs to be tended to better and they

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don't live there. So, they need to be
more responsible on making it happen on

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a regular basis. At the bottom of the
pictures that went with the letter last

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time, we put grass seeds mowed weeds on
the entire property. Both front yard,

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sidey yards, backyard, and behind the
garage all need trimmed. This was sent

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with the letter, too.
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» So, with the pictures
>> and I'm okay sending the pictures with

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the pictures that we have with the
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» I'll make that motion.
>> Excuse me. So, we're saying within 10

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days this has to be mowed. Five days.
>> Perfect.

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» Because we're doing a mowing letter,
>> not a nuisance,

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» versus a letter from the nuisance
ordinance.

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» Okay.
>> Where we've always used 10 days as the

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norm.
>> Okay.

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» So, it's actually a shorter time frame
than we did last time.

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» Okay. So, we have we have a motion and a
second. All in favor signify by saying

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I.
>> I oppose. Same sign.

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» Okay. The next um property is 306
Winridge.

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Um
he was issued a

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[cough and clears throat] $100 fine on
July the 20th

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and he stopped in and

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said that he couldn't pay the fine.

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So,
um I said, "Well," I said, "It's up to

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you whether you paid it or not." Um he
said, "Well, if I don't pay it, they'll

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issue a warrant for my arrest."
Um, [clears throat] and I said, "Well, I

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don't know if that exactly happens, but
anyway, he just said he couldn't pay it.

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He's dealing with a lot of a lot of
issues. His dad's sick. Um,

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he's had multiple reasons for
not being able to pay it." Um, so I I

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said, "Well, it's it's a fine that is
due and you owe the fine." and um and he

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walked out. So,
>> and when was this, Greg?

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» It was um
>> when he came in.

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» It was the day the fine was due. He came
in. It was right after Swiss stays that

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Monday.
>> Yeah.

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» After Swiss,
>> right? It was right after Yeah, it was

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right after Swiss stays.
>> So, what [clears throat] what follows

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this situation?
Um what what I would like to interject

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this property
even from our last meeting if you look

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at the two pictures
um Greg I think you mentioned to him at

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one point in time
maybe getting just a little better

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organized with what you have on your
front porch

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and he definitely has attempted to do
that. It's all kind of up by the front

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door where it used to be kind of all
over the place in the backyard. Um, they

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have worked on some of the vegetation. I
mean, you know, hauling away some of the

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stuff that they've cut down would be
helpful, but they've cut some stuff

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down. And if you remember right, they
had several vehicles that it took a

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while for them to get removed. They did
get removed. Um they had an unsafe

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vehicle um sitting in front that was up
on jacks that we asked them to make safe

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and get remediated. They did that. Um so
from where this was six months ago, they

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have made strides.
>> So what are you suggesting, Ron? Yeah,

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[clears throat]
>> I'm suggesting at this point I'm not

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sure
what more we want to push for.

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I mean, I drove by this property last
night and it's it's not half as bad as

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it was six months ago. So, I'm not
I guess would I like to see more

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progress?
Yeah. But under the circumstances,

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I'm not sure
what what the next step would be.

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[clears throat]
>> How does the

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» fine the fine is still there,
>> right? The fine is still a record. We

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can turn that into the state,
>> which means if there's a tax refund, we

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can attach that. But I think what you're
saying is other than that still hanging

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out there, um there's been progress.
So if there's no progress, then what's

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your next step?
>> I if there isn't any progress, you can

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keep assessing fines that you may not
collect right away.

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» But yeah,
>> at what point do we put a lean on the

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home?
>> We don't have that capability,

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» but we do have a capability of
attaching, like I said, through the

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state. We can attach tax refunds, those
kind of things.

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I mean, I think there's two options.
You could either find them again

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or we could monitor the pro monitor the
progress to make sure it doesn't go the

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other direction. So, un those are my two
options, but maybe someone else has

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another option.
We can find him again. But I my thoughts

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are if he says he can't afford to pay
the $100, he won't be able to afford to

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pay the $200. So, but if he doesn't make
progress, we can find him again.

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» If it gets worse,
>> if it gets worse or if it gets worse,

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» starts again.
>> Go ahead, Dwight. You were going to say

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something. So, we've been living at this
for six months.

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» But you have to you have to remember
what it looked like six months ago. I

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mean, there was a car dug in the back of
the

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» truck
>> or a truck in the back of the yard.

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There was cars without tires on jacks in
the front. I mean,

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» a car without an engine.
>> This home is trying.

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» You have to remember also that that
place looked like that 20 years ago.

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Does he own the property?
>> His dad does.

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His father owns the property.
[clears throat]

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» We know this individual.
>> I I just know the guy that comes in.

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It's his son. But
>> had him several times.

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» Yeah.
Until we had until we had nuisance

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board.
There wasn't any complaint filed to the

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nuisance board, but that property looked
those vehicles that we asked him to

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remove that were removed. Those vehicles
were there 15 or 20 years ago because I

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remember driving past the property.
>> Would wouldn't wouldn't this violation

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have some effect on the owner of that
home?

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» Well, the owner is his dad is living in
there.

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» That's what I'm asking. Where does his
dad come in? He owns the property.

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» His dad is sick with cancer. So, the boy
is taking care of him.

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» I mean, who who was the fine levied
against? The homeowner.

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» Yeah.
>> The homeowner who the dad was who the

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fine was levied against.
The son comes in and reports

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what they've done and what they can or
can't do. So,

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» so I guess my question is if we let this
slide now, we're going to let it slide

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again next month.
>> If this picture looks just

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» I think we need to determine that if is
this something we can live with or is

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this something we need to keep pressing?
Are we happy with the progress we've

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made already, which is huge in my
opinion

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» and
Can the board take a vote

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on what to go what to pursue with it or
to leave it as is

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» and just monitor it?
>> What is your suggestion?

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» My suggestion?
>> Yeah.

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» Personally, I could live with this.
They've done a great job working with

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us.
>> Tim, if this was your next door

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neighbor, would you agree to let this
slide? If this was right,

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» say I probably would. Yeah.
>> Really?

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» See, I can't do that.
>> Yeah.

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» If you look at the pictures, if you
[clears throat] look from 714 to 8:18

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and take a close look at the front
porch,

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to me,
it looks the same. Probably they're

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using that for storage.
[cough and clears throat]

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They said their garage is full, so
they're storing their

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belongings out there underneath the
front porch.

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[clears throat]
>> You know, if all the residents of Burn

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did this,
[laughter]

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I don't know that we can that we can
just turn a blind eye and say, "This is

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okay. We'll let this one go." How many
more are we going to let go?

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Yeah. I don't think we can do it. I
really don't.

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» If you let one go, then you're gonna let
somebody else go.

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» Is this rubbish or is this stuff that
they belong that they own and

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cherish or need or
>> need the mower?

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» Need the mower. Yeah.
>> Mower could be in the backyard.

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We complain that it's in the backyard.
Then

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» I think it looks like he just mowed
though.

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» I think we just continue to monitor this
property.

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» If we're going to do something, we need
to look in the nuisance ordinance and

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find specifically
what they're in um conflict with.

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I suggest we decide what we're going to
do and let's move on.

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[clears throat]
>> Well, I guess I'll make just just so we

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all know how the motion process works.
Dave, keep us straight.

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» I do have a suggestion. Um, I'm working
with Kelly Amstead, so I'm putting

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together a spreadsheet of local
community members that are willing to

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possibly help with a situation like
this. Can we monitor at this time and

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then when I get the list, maybe put him
in contact with somebody like a church

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group or youth group that would be
willing to go over there and possibly

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work on these vines in the backyard um
to clean up the backyard a little bit

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more. The rubbish in the in the front, I
don't know what we can do about that. He

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obviously can't afford a storage unit if
you can't afford to pay the fine.

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» I think that's a good suggestion.
>> And I will be more than happy to put him

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in contact with somebody that would be
willing to help him, especially if his

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dad's ill and he's taking him to to
appointments. He probably doesn't have

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the time
>> or he might not even have a saw.

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» And I think there might be some groups
in town that would come in that

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situation.
>> Yeah. And we're working on getting a

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group and Kelly on on that idea. I think
it's a a great idea. I think that

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information probably needs to be
reviewed with the nuisance review board

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that this is [snorts] information that
we're going to include in future

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letters. Um, so that was the one
recommendation I was going to have on

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that. Um, I think it's a great idea.
We've talked about Neighborlink before.

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Neighborlink would be a great
organization to get reinvived. Um, it

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was great when it started. Um, but it
could use a little uh, you know,

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transfusion of energy. Um, so
[clears throat]

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I I would be fine based on what you're
saying. I'll make a motion, John, to

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your point and then we can see if we can
move forward. So, so my motion is

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I would like to see us monitor the
property at 306 Moon Ridge Trail for

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another month, make sure that it doesn't
go

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backwards,
and at the next meeting, if we have

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groups that are identified that could
help this

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owner, that we would include that
information in a communication to them.

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So that's my motion.
>> Could we include

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getting some help [clears throat] at
this point?

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» Not at this point because there is
>> Let's Let's consider that.

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» Well, I can send them the neighbor link
brochure that we have in our lobby

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» and send that to them and just put a a
handote in there telling them that we're

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working with
>> other council members to come up with a

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list. [clears throat]
>> We've done that before on a couple other

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properties. We've sent them the neighbor
link.

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» [clears throat]
>> Now,

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» you know what I have in common?
>> If they have a lot of stuff on the

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porch, it's been sitting there for a
year, they haven't been using it. So,

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why wouldn't you just get rid of it if
you're not using it? Um, sell some of

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it. That give them a little money or
just just get rid of their junk. Um, if

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they're not using it. that that's just
the common sense thing that they could

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do. Wouldn't cost them anything.
>> Ron, let's kind of just leave things

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look terrible.
>> Let's move on with

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» interjecting her her suggestion.
>> So, I will add your that point to my

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motion.
>> Okay.

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» And that's my motion
>> and I'm a second.

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» Okay.
>> Okay. We have a motion and a second. All

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in favor signify by saying I.
>> I post same sign.

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Okay. The next um property is 465 North
Broner Street. [clears throat]

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Um it's been going on for two years.

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two years that property um has
um

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we had had we had had a talk with the
owner and the owner said he was going to

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have a fence installed as of August
18th.

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And I've that fence is not up because
the fence company hasn't been down to

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put it up because I think they're busy.
they can't they just haven't been able

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to get here from what I understand
unless somebody else has something. Um

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so we're still waiting on that fence um
to be put up on that property. Um

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and [clears throat]

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the um he had
he had stopped in and had a talk with me

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after he got a warning letter and
I think I mentioned this last at the

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last meeting. He um
he is on disability. His wife

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was sick or had been hurt um and was off
of work for several months and she's

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back to work now. And so I told him at
that point in time if he could just

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[clears throat] make his things um
more orderly looking that that would go

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a long way with with our committee just
to have it look a little nicer. I don't

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know if he has done
um done that totally, but um

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[clears throat]

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that that was his comments to me when he
stopped in and I told him I think the

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committee would just appreciate
um

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seeing an effort on your part to make
things look a little more orderly and

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not not like a mini junkyard.
So

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he um
I thought he understood what that meant.

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He sounded like he did. So, but I know
the trailer

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um that this is his way of trying to
make money since he's on disability is

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to
um gather these items on a trailer and

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then take them someplace and sell them.
And um

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so that's why we see the trailer empty
sometimes and then the next week it's

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full again.
>> Shouldn't be a trailer on the property

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like that.

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» Half the time it's almost in the front
yard.

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» I don't know. We You know, we kicked
this thing down the street for two

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years. This came up in August of 24.
Here we are in August of 26 and nothing

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is changing.
>> Okay. So, let me interject.

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[clears throat]
>> I'm ready.

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» We had this discussion at the last
meeting when the owner was here. They've

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not been on the nuisance review board
list for two years. There was a window

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six, [laughter] seven months where they
addressed their first list of issues we

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had with them and they were off. So, we
can't say that they've been on for a

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continuous period. They've been on for
two periods.

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» At the beginning, it was it was the
front yard and we they addressed what we

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said,
>> right? So, that got addressed and then

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the second time it came up, it is the
scrap. It is the trailer. It is the

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backyard. And at the last meeting when
the owner was here,

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he said he told us, you can read your
meeting minutes, that the owner is

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buying or the renter is buying the
property [laughter] off of them on a

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land contract.
and he the owner had come up with an

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agreement with them that the owner would
the property owner would pay for a fence

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and then he would add that to the amount
that they owe on the house and both

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sides were agreeable to that. And what
we left the last meeting with is if they

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can get the fence up and like the mayor
said, make things a little more orderly,

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then they would address the things that
are in front of us. So here we are now

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at this meeting. The fence isn't done.
So, so my thought

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reviewing this and getting ready for
this meeting is I think the owner

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and renter need to be requested to come
to the next meeting and give us an

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update where they are one month from now
because I don't I don't know that we can

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take any other steps other than that
today.

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» Good suggestion.
>> Okay. Uh

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September the 20th of 2024,
newspaper clipping 465 Sprunger Street

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is addressed.
>> Proof is in the pudding.

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» Right.
>> So, aren't we a little tired of keep

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talking about 465 Sprunger Street? I'm
tired of it. [snorts]

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that how much longer are we going to
talk about this property and not really

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get to the issue?

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Are we just going to keep pushing this
thing down the road? [clears throat] I I

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I can't agree with this.
>> So to Ron's point though, it was on

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September 24, right? That's what you
just said.

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» September the 20th of 2024. Okay. It was
in the burn track week. Okay. Then it

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went but then that nuisance thing was
taken care of and they were were not on

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our list for a period of time until he
started scrapping and we had issues with

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the items that were back there by his uh
>> carport

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» uh carport. Right.
>> You told him put it in a fence.

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» Yeah. Okay. Right.
>> Okay.

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» So what's your suggestion, mayor? Excuse
me, John. So,

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» this came up.
>> Go ahead.

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» This came up on December 20 of 24.
We talked about it February the 14th of

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25. This is ongoing.
>> So,

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» and again, and again on March the 21st
of 25 and here we are again with this

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property.
>> So, what what came up in February and

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March?
>> We've talked about this many times. What

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came up about
the property in 25 the the scrapping or

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was it the stuff that was in the front
yard?

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» Probably all the above.
>> I can't I would have to go through here.

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I've got it in here.
>> Well, I think I think the property first

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came up because of the stuff that was
parked in the front yard that he had

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garden tractors and stuff parked in his
front yard. They took care of that and

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then they were off our radar, so to
speak, because they took care of that

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complaint form and then there was
another complaint form filed

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[clears throat] on behalf of that
property with the stuff that was in the

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carport when he started scrapping.
>> I think there were several rounds,

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» but I don't know what the time frame.
>> I think there were several rounds about

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the front yard. Yeah.
>> And each time they they took care of it,

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then it happened again. And so, but but
in the end, but now there's it's not the

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front yard, it's the backyard. And so,
and I think what the what the board had

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told him is that if you build a fence
and put everything inside there, you're

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going to probably be okay. The fence
hasn't gotten built.

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So can we come to some sort of
[laughter] statement or conclusion at

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this point [clears throat]
to get

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» again back to making motions and seeing
whether there's a majority that wants to

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go with the motion.
I hear what you're saying, Dwight. I do.

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That's this is this property has been
discussed for a while. But

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» what do you what do you suggest, Dwight?
What do I suggest? I what I would

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suggest absolutely you got to go to the
pocketbook.

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» Money talks and all that other stuff
walks. You know, you get we've talked to

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the owner of the property and that owner
is just

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we all know it. So,
if this place was beside my property,

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I'd invite the man over over a cup of
coffee and let's talk about this. And

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what are we going to do? You have to
clean it up.

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Dave, if this place was beside your
place, you would absolutely have a fit.

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» I'd be talking to my neighbor.
>> Absolutely.

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» See what I could help do. But we've
talked to the owner,

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» but the city's not in that position.
Yeah.

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» You know, and the fence isn't that's a
band-aid. That's all it is is a

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band-aid.

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I I don't I don't know what the answer
is here, but we got to do something as a

420
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:24,320
board. We got to put some teeth in it.
I guess I guess I'm still going to go

421
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:32,720
back to our last meeting when the owner
was here and we gave them in our meeting

422
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:37,520
minutes the agreement that they could
proceed with the fence and then

423
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:43,359
hopefully that would resolve the
situation. The fence isn't there yet. So

424
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:48,640
the owner's not here. I don't know why
the fence isn't here yet. Um, but I

425
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,760
guess I'm just going to go ahead and
make a motion.

426
00:35:49,734 --> 00:35:59,760
» [clears throat]
>> My motion is that we send a letter to

427
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:07,440
the owner and to the renter
and request them to attend the September

428
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:14,400
um nuisance review board meeting with an
updated plan on when the fence is going

429
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:19,839
to be in place and what they are going
to do to

430
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:23,520
just address any issues we would have as
a board on their property. So

431
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,079
» second.
>> That's my motion.

432
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:32,400
» Let's let's move on it with a second.
>> Okay, we have a motion and a second. All

433
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:36,760
in favor signify by saying I.
>> I post same sign.

434
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:48,400
Okay. 866 West Van Beurren.
Um

435
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:53,680
shed has been relocated to the backyard.
Um, letter was delivered on July 16th.

436
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:58,320
Owner was to have the rubbish cleaned up
by 8:17.

437
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:04,079
Um,
and they've made progress on that

438
00:37:01,785 --> 00:37:10,400
[clears throat and laughter] property.
From what the pictures I see, all the

439
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:15,920
tires and the trash cans have been moved
away from that fence.

440
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:18,920
Um,
Anybody

441
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:26,240
else have any comments on this property?
We continue to monitor the property.

442
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:31,599
» I I think [clears throat] getting the
shed moved was huge. I know that wasn't

443
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:38,240
a nuisance review board matter. So,
Shannon, thanks for coordinating that

444
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:43,359
effort. Um the tires and rubbish that
are there in the 714 picture that we

445
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:50,079
specifically sent them the letter on
last time um are gone. It's hard to see

446
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:55,839
in the picture, but they're not there.
The one thing I did want to ask about um

447
00:37:53,359 --> 00:38:02,480
and looking at this property in a little
more detail than last night um the

448
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:07,280
trailer that's there um at one point
they had a trailer with no tires and

449
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:13,839
stuff on it. I think this is it, right?
>> No, I I think you describing that maybe.

450
00:38:09,839 --> 00:38:18,720
» Okay, so this this trailer to me and
maybe I couldn't see it. It's not

451
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,960
plated. It would need to be plated,
right, [laughter]

452
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,560
» to be legal.
>> Yeah.

453
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:28,000
» So,
>> I would like to send them a letter like

454
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:33,599
we've done to some of the other
properties and thank them for their

455
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:38,240
progress, but I would also like to still
send a I think junk vehicle is what we

456
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:44,240
would consider it because it's not
licensed.

457
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:51,920
send them a junk vehicle letter
and circle the the trailer. And Chief

458
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:57,520
Taylor, if if you want to check that
before we mail it to make sure my eyes

459
00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:02,240
aren't deceiving me, that would that
would be the only thing I would see that

460
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:06,160
they still need to do. and and we're
going to be we're going to be talking

461
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:12,079
about other vehicles coming up in the
meeting with not valid plates and things

462
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:16,560
like that. So, this can just be the
first one on the docket.

463
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:20,720
So,
I would make that as a motion.

464
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:25,359
» Okay, [clears throat] we have a motion
and a second.

465
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:29,000
» All in favor signify by saying I
post same sign.

466
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:38,320
» Okay.
Um,

467
00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:43,440
next property is 75 High Street.
A, um, rubbish and junk letter was

468
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:48,240
delivered on 716.
Property owner staff items removed by

469
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:53,200
7:26.
Um,

470
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:58,560
and looks like most of those items are
still there. So,

471
00:39:55,599 --> 00:40:05,440
um, do we send another letter with a
fine attached to it if it's not remedi

472
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:11,200
remediated in 10 days? Well, I I think
on this one, back to kind of the process

473
00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:18,800
that we had talked about a few meetings
ago and that I reailed to everyone

474
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:25,760
yesterday or the day before. Um the
first meeting we discussed the the

475
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:30,400
complaint form and then we send a letter
which that's happened. We're now at the

476
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:38,240
second meeting.
What I would suggest doing is we send a

477
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:43,920
another letter set, the same letter set,
and this one being the second iteration,

478
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:51,680
that an official warning citation be
added to it so that they know that the

479
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:57,680
next step is occurring
because I mean in looking looking at

480
00:40:54,160 --> 00:41:03,440
these items and looking at the ordinance
this morning, the vehicle that's on the

481
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:10,800
ground, doesn't have an engine, and it's
just sitting there. That is definitely

482
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:15,680
right spelled out in the ordinance, a
jump vehicle. The white vehicle, I don't

483
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:20,640
know if it's got a valid license plate
or not. If it doesn't have a valid

484
00:41:17,359 --> 00:41:26,640
license plate, then it also comes under
the junk vehicle ordinance. The red

485
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:33,599
truck is I believe what the gentleman
drives because it was not there last

486
00:41:29,359 --> 00:41:39,920
night. Um so it comes and goes. So the
other two are really what I think are in

487
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:44,960
question. So since they've made no
progress, they've not followed up to

488
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:48,160
tell us anything. Um we can also invite
them to the next meeting if they would

489
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:52,880
like to attend.
>> We need to [clears throat]

490
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:57,520
send a weed letter to
along with it. It looks like there's

491
00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:03,760
leads along the cars that are sitting
there.

492
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:12,079
That's that's fine, mayor.
>> Or a kind combination letter of sorts.

493
00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:16,319
So to keep John happy, that's I'll be
willing to make a motion to keep

494
00:42:13,569 --> 00:42:21,680
[clears throat] us moving forward.
Make a motion that we send a junk

495
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:30,800
vehicle, a junk and rubbish letter, and
a grass and weed letter with a warning

496
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:33,040
citation to the 705 High Street
property.

497
00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:35,119
» That's my motion. [cough]
>> You need a second?

498
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,040
» Yeah,
>> you heard it.

499
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:41,520
» Okay,
>> we'll move on. We got a vote yet, John.

500
00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:46,200
» We got today, John.
>> We got We got a vote yet, John. We have

501
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:46,200
a motion.

502
00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:51,040
[laughter]
>> For goodness sake.

503
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:56,880
» We have a mot. We have a motion in a
second. All in favor signify by saying

504
00:42:53,280 --> 00:43:01,680
I. I.
>> Okay.

505
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:07,599
Next item on the agenda is
>> Mayor. Can I ask a real quick question?

506
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:12,079
So, like on 705 High Street, when we
send these letters, we know

507
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:17,119
that we're sending them [clears throat]
to the owner that that they own the

508
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:20,319
property. I mean, if it would be a
rental situation, we would send them

509
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:24,839
both.
>> Okay.

510
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:24,839
Thanks.

511
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:32,720
That would be if the if the utilities
are going to a render and the property

512
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:35,839
unit is something right and it goes
above. [clears throat]

513
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:41,839
Okay.
>> Okay. The next um item on our agenda is

514
00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:46,640
our new properties or new complaint
forms

515
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:54,560
that have um
been sent in or dropped off.

516
00:43:50,400 --> 00:44:00,640
And the first one in on the property on
the new property review. The first

517
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:09,920
picture that we have is from two it's
either 256 or 266 Baltimore Street. And

518
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:16,400
the initial complaint was for a
um

519
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:22,960
vehicle in the alley. Um
and the

520
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:28,079
» truck vehicle has been removed.
Um

521
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:33,359
cuz it was a the complaint form talked
about a fire truck in the alley. That

522
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:40,480
that vehicle has been removed. However,
there are two other vehicles still in

523
00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:45,839
the alley that need to be uh removed um
from the alley. And

524
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:48,800
» I think there's a trailer, too. Trailer.
Yeah.

525
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:54,560
» The car [clears throat] to the west of
the fire truck. The license plate was

526
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:59,680
20,023.
And as I went by yesterday, the fire

527
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,280
truck is in the yard,
>> right?

528
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:04,280
» In the front.
>> Yeah.

529
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:10,480
Well, on on this property,
[clears throat]

530
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:13,760
so we're we're talking about
basically alley rightway stuff, right,

531
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,119
Dave?
>> Yeah. Yeah. You can't block a public

532
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:22,211
way.
>> So So page four in the nuisance

533
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:26,400
ordinance talks about campers
[clears throat] and trailers and things

534
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:33,440
like that not being allowed to be parked
in a public way for more than 24 hours

535
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:36,640
in a 30-day period. So the trailer's
definitely

536
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:40,560
Well, the trailer's attached to the
truck. So

537
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:45,119
» what you're citing though is is like if
if it's parked on the side of the road,

538
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:51,280
but people can still get through when
you completely block an alley, then

539
00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:56,800
operational fire trucks can't get
through as well as utility workers.

540
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,760
That's what that's what
>> and it's been that way. I

541
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,800
» think you can only park in an alley like
that for like 15 years. It's just

542
00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:04,880
onloading and offloading.
>> Here are being blocked. That's the

543
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,839
thing.
>> It's been that way for months. And I'm a

544
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:15,359
little surprised
that the neighbors

545
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:21,040
haven't complained.
And you know some of the neighbors very

546
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:24,000
well, Mayor.
>> We haven't had a complaint form filed.

547
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:31,319
John,
>> that's cuz he's an elected official.

548
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:31,319
» I suggest sending a letter.

549
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:40,240
so much time. And
>> so, so this this property, we're talking

550
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:44,560
about it at the nuisance review board,
>> but is not nuisance ordinance specific.

551
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:49,280
» Yeah.
>> So, this isn't even honestly, this isn't

552
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,800
something that had to come to this
board.

553
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:55,520
» Yeah. It's it's really something that
the police department should just take

554
00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:03,119
care of.
>> So, I think out of this, what do we want

555
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:06,520
to say? We're gonna do
>> I can just

556
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:17,880
with that police department will address
this.

557
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,000
Okay.
>> [laughter]

558
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:40,240
» The next next property is uh 466
Baltimore Street,

559
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:44,079
which um has been on our radar before
for

560
00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:47,440
um
>> other other

561
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:52,079
» other issues that they addressed by
putting up a fence. And now this is a

562
00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:55,680
new complaint form
addressing

563
00:47:54,000 --> 00:48:02,160
some of the other things that have shown
up around the property that are of a

564
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:08,880
concerning nature.
So um [clears throat]

565
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:13,200
we had um I believe
um

566
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:17,359
three
three complaint forms filed on behalf of

567
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:21,083
this property.
Anybody

568
00:48:19,063 --> 00:48:21,083
[clears throat]

569
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:46,400
here? Anybody here that wants to provide
any comments on this property?

570
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:49,359
The less on that property are as tall as
the cars.

571
00:48:48,538 --> 00:48:53,920
[clears throat]
>> I mean, are they

572
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:57,200
» I walk I walk the streets
and it's just unbelievable.

573
00:48:56,398 --> 00:49:01,040
[clears throat]
>> Okay. I mean,

574
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:07,440
» so they have two cars that obviously
haven't been moved in months because the

575
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:11,760
weeds have grown up all around them.
>> Okay. And I guess this is a little bit

576
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:16,400
personal for us is we once lived in this
house back in the 80s,

577
00:49:14,319 --> 00:49:21,680
but I hope you guys don't think the
fence solved the problem

578
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:25,680
because you still see the junk on the
other side of the fence. There was even

579
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:31,040
a temporary shack behind the fence where
it looked like somebody might be living.

580
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:35,119
I mean, this place
of all the properties in burn, this was

581
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:39,200
to me
one that's just been sitting there for

582
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:44,960
several years. I can't even walk by it
without getting sick. I just

583
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:50,640
» Okay, I need to say a couple years ago
Tammy was here and she said she said,

584
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:56,079
"My goodness, that property looks
horrible in Colorado. If you would have

585
00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:02,000
a property like that, they would find
you right away." Well, you

586
00:49:59,279 --> 00:50:09,040
[clears throat] guys made them have a
bigger fence. They have

587
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:14,400
a lot of times seven cars. The whole
front's full of cars

588
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:18,720
» plus they have to park in the yard.
They have a trailer full of junk in the

589
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:25,839
yard.
But what what kind of bothered me was

590
00:50:24,169 --> 00:50:31,760
[clears throat]
two or three of the cars sitting on

591
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:38,800
outside of the sidewalk have license
plates that has has been expired for

592
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:47,839
four months and
you know and have weeds up three feet

593
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:53,040
around the cars. Now, [clears throat] we
complained over the years, but

594
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:58,880
[clears throat]
um and they did clean up a little bit,

595
00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:04,079
but so so what do you do? You still go
past and check or do you have to have a

596
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:09,520
complaint every time otherwise you won't
do anything about it? I mean, this is

597
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:14,079
like two years now. that's been
looking pretty bad.

598
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:18,960
And uh
so every time they do something

599
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:25,160
different, we need to complain or
nothing will be done. And it it kind of

600
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,160
bothered me

601
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:35,640
the the cars that have license plates
that are over overdue.

602
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,640
Um

603
00:51:35,839 --> 00:51:45,390
there's a couple of couple of people I
know really well. I have five kids. They

604
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:49,559
moved to burn from Fort Wayne
[clears throat]

605
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:49,559
and uh

606
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:55,720
she went to the grocery store and came
home and drove in the driveway

607
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:03,920
and the burn please came behind her and
said, "Hey, your sticker is over

608
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:08,480
overdue."
And so

609
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:13,839
they
it was in their driveway.

610
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:19,040
They brought a record, move the car
away, and so you can have your car back

611
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:25,599
when you get a sticker. [clears throat]
Well, there's people

612
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:33,440
in my joining block. There's at least
three or four cars sent out there with

613
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:38,000
expired stickers and nothing is
said about it.

614
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:44,240
So what's the difference between 11
years ago and now? We just don't

615
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:49,119
» back them up anymore or you know.
>> So Norville, I had I had a question I

616
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:58,079
want to interject here so we can get
your question answered. So

617
00:52:53,280 --> 00:53:05,301
chief on a expired license plate if it's
mobile and a police person sees them

618
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:10,800
county city state whatever they
[clears throat] would pull them over and

619
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:14,640
ticket them for an expired play
driving with

620
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:19,839
» operating
>> if something is parked we've had this

621
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:26,559
discussion before and I I think I just
want to re refresh refresh my memory

622
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:31,359
is it if it's parked,
you don't know whether they got the the

623
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:35,359
registration renewed and it's inside and
they just haven't put the sticker on. If

624
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:41,280
it's just sitting there, they're not
breaking the law from a state motor

625
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,400
vehicle perspective. Right.
>> Correct.

626
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:50,000
» But it's in a public
>> but what they but what they are they're

627
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:55,200
in conflict with the nuisance ordinance.
>> Yeah. So, now that this property has

628
00:53:52,720 --> 00:54:02,640
come up, like we've done in other
properties, we're going to need to send

629
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:08,160
them a junk vehicle notice that you have
to have current license plates on their

630
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:11,040
cars. So, that'll that'll be the step
one of the steps we take out of this

631
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:16,720
property here.
>> What I'm kind of thinking is

632
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:20,079
if you make them get a license plate, of
course, you got to have insurance. Well,

633
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:24,000
that's going to cost them a little
money. So, if it's sitting there and

634
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:28,079
they're paying
that money for a license plate, not

635
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:33,680
using the car, maybe they'll get rid of
it. Uh, that that's my thinking.

636
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:37,040
» And and on this
>> But if you don't do anything about it,

637
00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:41,200
they'll just leave it sitting there
forever.

638
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:47,280
And on this property, Norval would I'll
interject since we've had interactions

639
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:53,200
with the property owner before when the
fence was going up. [clears throat] Um

640
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:58,240
what we were told back then is that all
his vehicles are plated. He has

641
00:54:55,599 --> 00:55:02,079
registrations. Um so that's what was
said back then.

642
00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:05,760
» Well, they they were until March. Yeah.
Five months.

643
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:09,200
» So I
>> as far as we know, excuse me, we have

644
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:13,599
there only three people that live in
that house and most a lot of days

645
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:18,880
there's seven to nine cars all around
that house and in your yard. Do they

646
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:25,119
need that many vehicles and one doesn't
even drive. So

647
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:30,240
» I don't think there's any law as far as
number of vehicles person.

648
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:34,559
» I agree. I agree. still
>> but it does need to be plated if it's

649
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:39,200
» make them keep up on their license
plates. They might get rid of a few

650
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:44,079
» is my thoughts.
>> So So on the

651
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:50,240
» and the the other thing that I remember
was that any kind of junk or anything

652
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:53,839
needed to be within inside the fence.
Anything he collects needs to be inside

653
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:59,359
the fence.
>> There's a trailer outside.

654
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:03,599
There is, you know, they have a lot of
stuff.

655
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,760
It's right on the property line. And I
was talking to

656
00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:08,400
» Does the owner actually live there?
>> One of the neighbors and they said,

657
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:15,280
» "Yeah,
>> you know, we we live there 25 years and

658
00:56:12,319 --> 00:56:19,839
never have had a mouse problem. Now all
of a sudden we do." all that junk and

659
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:25,359
now,
you know, they can't prove it, but

660
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:29,680
there may be
>> and and and I'd say from the from the

661
00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:35,440
nuisance ordinance [snorts]
uh standpoint, one of the main purposes

662
00:56:32,799 --> 00:56:42,160
of it is for public safety, dealing with
rodents, dealing with that that's what

663
00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:45,760
the the collection of junk,
the the rodent issue is is a big part of

664
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:48,640
why
>> one of the bracketers your intention.

665
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:54,640
» Yeah.
>> I just see the town of Burn becoming a

666
00:56:51,280 --> 00:57:01,520
salvage place for these junk viewers.
Okay. Make you put a fence up. You still

667
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:06,799
have the property is crap. You know, I
just don't understand why we can't do

668
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:12,880
something about that. I mean, if it was
in other areas of burn like was

669
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:19,040
mentioned, they wouldn't allow it.
So, I I I just don't like to see our

670
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:25,680
town go downhill.
>> And and another thing, we got a small

671
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:29,760
community and we drive around.
It's not Fort Lane. We're not talking

672
00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:35,839
about Slair
15 miles away. But

673
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:40,720
line of vision. Well, it's line of
vision to everybody that lives here. All

674
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:46,079
you got to do is walk go down the
street. You can look. Oh man, that's a

675
00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:52,720
junk place. That's a junk place. Now, we
were we were thinking about getting a

676
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:56,880
smaller house
because she wouldn't have to go up

677
00:57:54,559 --> 00:58:03,359
steps. Well,
that first house we're talking about,

678
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:08,720
there's a bunch of junk. Uh, now, am I
going to buy a house right beside a

679
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:11,280
junkyard? Probably not.
So it makes it it

680
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:15,119
» makes our
>> the line of vision

681
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:21,119
» means
nothing and burn it because it's in a

682
00:58:18,319 --> 00:58:24,400
line of vision of everybody is what I'm
saying.

683
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:28,640
» But can I just say like if you are going
to resell and you're a neighbor and it's

684
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:32,079
in your line of vision then file the
complaint. I think this is a great

685
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,880
committee and I think it's important
that we have it.

686
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:38,799
» That's what we do right. That's our
thing. You guys are doing it right and I

687
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:41,359
appreciate that. I think I think when we
do it for our own neighborhood and we

688
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,960
take care of our own neighborhood, it's
not going to be a big problem. But so I

689
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:49,680
think you guys are doing it right and I
think you're right to file a complaint.

690
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:56,880
I don't think that everyone in the world
should. We don't burn is not an HOA.

691
00:58:53,920 --> 00:59:00,160
And so preferences versus safety. I
think that's why this board is

692
00:58:57,839 --> 00:59:03,599
important. We we've lived there since
1974 and I've never seen it as bad as

693
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:08,400
what it is now.
>> Well, it's pervasive. I'm just gonna

694
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:13,119
tell you it's pervasive in my opinion.
We live here back in the 80s and it was

695
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:19,119
striking at least on the north part the
north side of Water Street in these

696
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:24,000
areas. Um there there other places I
agree but

697
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:27,520
it is definitely different. I'll just
say that if everybody's happy with that

698
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,599
that's your that's what you guys have to
decide.

699
00:59:28,319 --> 00:59:33,440
» What do you mean on the north side of
Water Street? I'm just saying up on that

700
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:36,640
area, the north side of water in that
neighborhood,

701
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:41,119
» that there are a number of homes that
are that are are not kept up. That's

702
00:59:39,839 --> 00:59:47,520
what I'm saying.
>> So on on 466 Baltimore Street,

703
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:54,240
» I think we've had some good discussion.
We've had input from neighbors. Um we've

704
00:59:51,680 --> 01:00:02,640
talked about some of the things that we
know probably need a a letter sent on.

705
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:10,559
I think we definitely need to send a
junk vehicle letter which will address

706
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:17,920
any vehicles that are not plated.
We need to send a junk rubbish letter

707
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:25,200
which I think from the pictures you can
circle the trailer in the front yard and

708
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:30,799
consider that. You can also consider the
stuff along the west side of the garage

709
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:37,119
to be junk and rubbish. That's on the
next page with your picture.

710
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:41,599
And we can send him a Weeden's Education
letter [clears throat]

711
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:46,240
um with what's there by the garage and
back and address anything on the

712
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:50,480
property with with that letter. So, I
think those three letters

713
01:00:48,391 --> 01:00:55,040
[clears throat] were appropriate to
>> I need to also These [laughter] people

714
01:00:52,640 --> 01:01:00,240
need to be fine. I mean, we've addressed
this problem before and they just

715
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:03,680
continue and continue
>> these

716
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:07,680
» to leave their house in just a
>> so to these instances for the whole

717
01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:14,000
city.
>> For these instances, this is the first

718
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:18,559
time these items are in front of the
nuisance review board. So what we talked

719
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:24,799
about earlier is a complaint form is
filed the first time they get a letter

720
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:30,079
saying that this is what you need to
address. I think Dave brought it up at

721
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:35,760
the last meeting. Due process was the
term that I believe Dave used. So the

722
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:40,880
due process is they get time to address
their issue. If they don't have it

723
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:45,119
addressed at the next meeting, they're
going to get a warning and eventually

724
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:51,119
they're going to get fined.
So, but unfortunately that's the process

725
01:01:48,319 --> 01:01:56,160
flow that the nuisance review board has
discussed and has agreed to. So, that's

726
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:59,280
that's that's the practice that we're
adhering to right now.

727
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:04,960
» And one of these times, maybe we could
invite the owner join us here at the

728
01:02:02,319 --> 01:02:09,599
meeting.
>> He's down here.

729
01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:13,760
» I put the I put the time and date of our
next meeting at the top of the letter.

730
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:15,920
The last time he was here, John, he
>> wanted you to go to coffee with him.

731
01:02:15,507 --> 01:02:18,079
[laughter]
>> That's right.

732
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:22,000
» Is that right?
>> Is that right where Trace is?

733
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,079
» That's right.
>> He's been here.

734
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:27,079
» Yeah. In the evening.
>> Yeah.

735
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:35,760
» And And if we get to the point after the
next meeting, if he's not addressed his

736
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:41,040
things and for the next meeting we need
to do it at night, I'm okay with that.

737
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:44,160
We talked about having these once in a
while in the evening. So I'm okay with

738
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,799
that.
>> So what do we need?

739
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:50,480
» So that's my motion.
>> I'll second it. Let's move on.

740
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:57,640
» We got a vote.
>> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I.

741
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:57,640
» I. Same sign.

742
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:13,480
» Okay. The next property on the
list is 1335 Hendrick Street.

743
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,480
Um,

744
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,480
» please deliver

745
01:03:33,359 --> 01:03:36,359
» 133500.

746
01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:41,319
» It's the last page.
>> Last page.

747
01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:56,039
But [laughter] going forward, these are
in different

748
01:03:50,799 --> 01:03:56,039
» I think Kelly's Kelly's g

749
01:03:56,079 --> 01:04:05,119
» it is in the back. I'm just saying maybe
if we go through the properties in the

750
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:12,480
order the pictures are since we just got
these point forms this morning it's

751
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:21,280
easier just to follow the picture.
Let's go back to industry street.

752
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:27,920
Who owns this residence? Anybody know?
>> Not sure. Android

753
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:32,240
couple different people.
>> Anybody have a neighbor that we could

754
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:38,240
that would help us focus where this is?
Anybody know who lives nearby?

755
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:43,440
» Well, 1335 Henrik Street. If you want to
know where it is in town, you go down

756
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:48,720
past the girls softball diamond. Keep
going [clears throat] south. Go past the

757
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:57,559
road. It that culdeac all the way at the
end. It's about one or two houses back

758
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:57,559
from the culdeac east in the east side.

759
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:09,760
So this
we sent them a grass and weed, right?

760
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:15,359
police delivered that and a copy of the
junk vehicle ordinance on July 16th, but

761
01:05:13,359 --> 01:05:19,760
we didn't talk about this property at
the last meeting. So that this this is

762
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:24,000
the first time. So,
>> right,

763
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:29,839
» they need to officially
get a junk vehicle letter because

764
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:32,559
several of their vehicles are not
plated. You can see that.

765
01:05:32,010 --> 01:05:38,880
[clears throat]
And then there's tires and other things

766
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:45,280
which I would consider junk rubbish.
So I think we need to send them

767
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:47,440
» Well, we need to send them the letters.
>> We didn't we did already. Oh, this is

768
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:52,480
new.
>> This is new. The police the police was

769
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:55,200
taking I think a grass weed letter.
>> That's right.

770
01:05:52,960 --> 01:06:01,280
» But at the time they just handed them
say, "Hey, this this is also something."

771
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:09,280
» But our board never considered it. This
is our first. So I think we need to send

772
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:14,799
those two letters. That would be
>> that would be my motion.

773
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:17,760
» The cross letter again too.
>> Does it need it?

774
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:22,880
» There's weeds around the vehicles.
>> Yeah. Then send all three of them.

775
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:29,359
» So a junk vehicle letter, junk and
leverage letter, and grass and

776
01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:32,079
» Yeah. Grass and weed letter.
Okay. [clears throat]

777
01:06:29,839 --> 01:06:36,559
» So that's that's my motion.
>> Is there a second?

778
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:43,400
» Second.
>> All in favor signify by saying I

779
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:43,400
» I post same sign.

780
01:06:51,266 --> 01:06:57,119
[laughter]
>> Okay. Um, I think we're at

781
01:06:55,200 --> 01:07:03,960
I'll go back to the pictures and we'll
try to find a complaint form later. 355

782
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,960
Columbia Street.

783
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:12,720
There was a complaint filed for a
trailer parked on the sidewalk with no

784
01:07:09,619 --> 01:07:18,480
[clears throat] license plate. So,
my guess is that's a police

785
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:23,200
» junk vehicle.
>> A junk vehicle.

786
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,599
I'll make that motion. I'll make that
motion. Send them a junk vehicle.

787
01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:29,200
» Okay, [clears throat]
>> I'll second it.

788
01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:35,920
» Okay, we have a motion and a second to
send 355 Columbia a junk vehicle letter.

789
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:40,280
All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. Both same sign.

790
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:52,319
Next address is 424 compromise which may
also be

791
01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:58,720
um 500
North Harrison Street.

792
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:03,280
I think the complaint the complaint form
was listed as 500 block of Harrison.

793
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:09,839
» Yeah.
>> But this is the actual address is on

794
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:15,119
compromise their mailing addresses. And
I think this is the same thing. There's

795
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:19,440
there's a there's an RV
>> and RV and the trailer

796
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:22,159
» doesn't have license plates. So, I think
>> Well,

797
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,560
» it has a license plate. It's expired.
>> It says the license plates are current.

798
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:27,920
So,
>> I went by there last night. It's got a

799
01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:32,000
2027 license plate on it
>> on the camper.

800
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:36,080
» That would make this a non-issue.
>> Yeah.

801
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:40,880
» Make a motion to move on.
>> The trailer. Are we doing anything with

802
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:45,799
the trailer though? It did. It says
camper trailer on city property.

803
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:55,040
» Okay.
>> And the trailer itself

804
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:58,159
» is a trailer.
>> The trailer itself is a non-expiring

805
01:08:57,279 --> 01:09:02,400
plate too.
>> Okay.

806
01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:07,040
» Okay. So then Yeah. So then this is no
action needed.

807
01:09:03,759 --> 01:09:10,719
» Yeah. Unless it's unless next month it
hasn't approved. But you can see the you

808
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:13,839
can see the plate
>> in the picture. It's just hard to see

809
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:18,640
because it's on the left side under the
table

810
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:21,359
in that square.
>> I was like,

811
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:24,400
» that's what I would like.
>> Yeah, there is.

812
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:27,400
» Oh, it's over there. Yeah, [laughter]
>> there.

813
01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:33,108
Okay. Um, [clears throat]

814
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:38,880
next property is 505 North Broner
Street.

815
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:47,759
So qu question on this one.
So it says in our package a towing

816
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:53,359
warning letter and hedge letter were
both delivered on July 16th.

817
01:09:50,799 --> 01:10:00,520
So that must have come from some other
city entity. Where where did those come

818
01:09:55,679 --> 01:10:00,520
from? Like the water department or

819
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:08,080
» so
that was Yeah.

820
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:11,920
water utility department.
>> So is the

821
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:15,040
» what the issue what the issue is is
they're parked over at the shut off

822
01:10:13,679 --> 01:10:19,920
valve is
>> and they were being put on the shut off

823
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:23,520
list and they've been asked to move the
vehicle multiple times and they haven't

824
01:10:22,178 --> 01:10:29,440
[clears throat]
>> this this is this is that's not a

825
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:32,320
nuisance ordinance issue, is it?
>> No, it's it's police

826
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:37,679
» water utility
>> water. Yeah, it's not even ours.

827
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:42,960
I mean, as far [laughter] as how they
get the car moved, how do they get the

828
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:44,880
car? That would be up to the city on
that.

829
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:48,640
» I think that's why we brought it to the
new center [clears throat] because they

830
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:52,560
haven't communicated us communicated to
us that it's inoperable.

831
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:58,960
» So, which would be a junk vehicle,
>> right? and the the the um hedge right

832
01:10:56,159 --> 01:11:04,719
there along the alleyway. When I go to
take the pictures, the mirror on the

833
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:08,800
Explorer rubs the hedges cuz they're
encroaching on the alleyway.

834
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,880
So that's why I had a picture of the
hedges.

835
01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:13,360
» I'm trying to think the hedge probably
in right away.

836
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,760
» Yeah,
>> but I'm saying whose hedge is that to

837
01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:20,239
trim?
>> Probably the cities.

838
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:24,320
» It might be ours if it's in our
rightway.

839
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:28,159
» [clears throat]
>> I'd have to look at.

840
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:32,960
» So you're you're saying they said they
can't move it because it's in an inco.

841
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,239
» It might be plated, but it's they said
it's in a

842
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:38,719
» Yeah.
>> So that's why they brought it.

843
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:44,000
» Yeah.
>> And this has happened numerous times

844
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,760
because I think the police have had to
go there a few times

845
01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:50,560
» just
>> to address this issue. Not to address

846
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:54,480
the park card, but while they talked to
the homeowner that they just wanted me

847
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:59,239
to be there, someone wanted to get out
of control.

848
01:11:56,239 --> 01:11:59,239
» Yeah,

849
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:08,945
» I think I think you could give a junk
vehicle

850
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:12,120
letter based on their statement that
[clears throat] it's inoperable.

851
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:18,840
» The bottom right picture, is that a
motor home? back end of a motor home.

852
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:27,719
» You know who that is?
[clears throat]

853
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,719
Here we go again.

854
01:12:28,159 --> 01:12:38,000
» Back back back to the car. [laughter]
So, are they needing are they needing

855
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:44,080
the water shut off or we just know that
it's there and we know that it can't be

856
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:48,719
inhibited? So numerous incidents they've
been delinquent on their water bill

857
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:52,880
which has caused us to have to because
we can't shut off the water because the

858
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:59,440
vehicle is on top of it. So we've had to
send the water department along with a

859
01:12:54,880 --> 01:13:03,920
police officer to their home
saying we need payment.

860
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:08,800
We have sent a letter telling them it
needs move.

861
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:14,320
Um they've come in and paid. Um, so
we've dropped needing to tow the

862
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:19,360
vehicle. Um, but it was addressed to us
last time we went that it was inoperable

863
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:22,800
and they cannot move the vehicle and
it's been there. I think we had a

864
01:13:20,719 --> 01:13:25,800
picture from November of 25.
>> Yeah.

865
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:34,560
» Might that be Larry Springer?
>> No, it would be the home to

866
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:40,640
» the neighbor. Okay. I mean, we can send
them a junk vehicle

867
01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:42,640
notice from this board if we want to.
>> Yeah.

868
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:47,440
» Because it's inoperable.
>> I'm I'll make that motion.

869
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:56,280
» I'll second it.
>> Okay. We have a motion in a second to

870
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:56,280
send a junk vehicle letter um to5

871
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,199
North Brunner Street.

872
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:07,239
All in favor signify by saying I
>> I post same sign.

873
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:14,560
Um okay
506er

874
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:18,960
street
complaint was filed for rubbish and junk

875
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:22,880
in the yard and trailer. This is the
first

876
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:25,880
uh complaint form we've received on this
property.

877
01:14:29,679 --> 01:14:36,640
And I I might add, if you drove
[clears throat] by, you would see the

878
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:42,080
grass around the home would be probably
8, 10, 12 inches high, too.

879
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,400
» It's recently mowed.
>> Grass was mowed [clears throat] last

880
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:47,280
night.
>> I drove by.

881
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:52,719
» Okay.
>> It's been wet. [laughter]

882
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:59,760
Okay.
>> I guess my question on the rubbish and

883
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:07,440
junk, what are we what are we
considering junk and rubbish?

884
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:13,679
I know the trailer is a trailer that I
believe the the renter it's a renter in

885
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:20,560
a landowner is my understanding on this
property uses that for pressure washing

886
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:27,920
jobs when he gets them. [clears throat]
Um there's a car and a trailer

887
01:15:25,447 --> 01:15:31,719
[clears throat] but
trailers aren't rubbish.

888
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:53,199
Sounds like a business. Is it zoned for
a business

889
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:56,199
or is this a a residential
plan?

890
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:04,120
I'll let Shannon [clears throat] and
Dave answer that. I think I know the

891
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,120
answer.

892
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:11,760
» It's a It's a rented property.
>> Um I don't have the zoning map in front

893
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:15,360
of me, but I would say it's residential.
>> Me, too.

894
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:19,440
» I mean, I'm sure it's either an R1 or an
R2. Just

895
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:25,707
» pretend this property is right beside
your doororker

896
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:27,727
to the south, you know.
>> [snorts]

897
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:43,040
» Is that a washing machine or what is
that? What is that [laughter]

898
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:45,920
» on the on the trailer that it's a
pressure washing?

899
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:48,960
» No, you see in the dump
>> right there. What's that?

900
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:52,560
» Oh,
>> that's empty now. Is that correct?

901
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:57,040
» Yeah, that's empty now.
>> That's empty now. that trailer is.

902
01:16:55,199 --> 01:17:01,760
» Yeah, I went by last night just to look
at everything that Kelly went so I could

903
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:07,360
look and that's 8:15 last night and it's
empty.

904
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:11,600
» I don't know if he got rid of stuff. I
don't know. Could be in the garage. You

905
01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:17,199
know,
>> the the vehicles north of the garage

906
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:23,760
door. Is that something we
can deal with or

907
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:26,480
» the vehicle on the trailer?
That's up the

908
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:29,440
» Is that PL?
>> The one that's on the trailer. I have no

909
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:33,920
idea.
>> Yeah, that's a car. You know, the

910
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:38,239
trailer went down the alley.
>> I mean, I I think that would be the

911
01:17:35,679 --> 01:17:43,120
question. So, that's whether it's on a
trailer or on the ground that's not

912
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:48,000
plated. That's an issue.
I mean, like we've done on the others,

913
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:53,360
if if if we want to make a a motion to
send a junk vehicle notice based on that

914
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:59,120
card,
we can, but maybe the chief can check it

915
01:17:57,199 --> 01:18:02,480
out before we actually mail the letter
and make sure that

916
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:05,920
» he can make a motion that if it's not if
he checks it out and it's not plated to

917
01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:11,840
send a jump vehicle.
I'll I'll make a motion that we send a

918
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:19,600
jump vehicle letter to the uh property
owner and renter at 506 Sprunger Street

919
01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:23,600
uh based on Chief Taylor's assessment of
the license plate situation. I'll second

920
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:30,000
that.
>> Okay, we have a motion and a second. All

921
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:34,144
in favor signify by saying I oppose.
Same sign.

922
01:18:32,124 --> 01:18:34,144
[laughter]

923
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:44,880
Okay, next property is a complaint on
365 North Jefferson filed for a truck

924
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:47,920
parked along
Jefferson's three without dated 2025

925
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:53,080
plates.
>> So that truck's no longer there.

926
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,080
» Okay.

927
01:18:55,040 --> 01:19:02,480
I [laughter]
looked last night and this morning it

928
01:18:58,159 --> 01:19:07,600
was not there after pictures were taken.
So I guess in

929
01:19:06,159 --> 01:19:10,769
in in this situation
>> he's operating normal. He could be

930
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,789
caught.
[laughter]

931
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:21,080
» You have to speak up. Yeah.
[laughter]

932
01:19:16,719 --> 01:19:21,080
» He's not parked. He's on the run.

933
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:29,040
» So on so on this since we're not going
to meet since we're not going to meet

934
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:34,719
for a month,
what can we do if the vehicle

935
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:39,199
coming back.
>> I believe Lieutenant Amstrads has talked

936
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:43,520
to this gentleman and told him we can't
park it on the street with the expired

937
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:47,120
license plate.
>> So, he took care of it.

938
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:53,199
» So, you think it's been addressed?
>> Yeah. Okay. So, then no action at this

939
01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:57,560
time. If it comes up again at the next
meeting, so be it.

940
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:09,520
» Okay. Um, [laughter]
next one is 766 North Jefferson Street.

941
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:14,719
Believe this is the first time a
complaint has been filed on this

942
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:22,520
property for weeds and junk vehicles.
>> First time currently it's been once

943
01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:22,520
before quite a while ago.

944
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:29,520
» He mowed last night.
>> He mowed last night.

945
01:20:27,679 --> 01:20:35,040
Again, some of these people haven't been
able to mow because of how wet

946
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:38,320
everything's been. Um, but
>> and the plates are current.

947
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:41,199
» Plates are current. Okay.
>> I do [clears throat] see tires.

948
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:44,880
» Yeah, I was
>> with the whole West Nile. I mean, I feel

949
01:20:43,679 --> 01:20:48,239
like that should definitely be
addressed.

950
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:51,600
» That can be that can definitely
>> You want to make a motion, Cal, that we

951
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:55,679
send him a junk rubbish letter?
>> Unless you want to. [laughter]

952
01:20:53,606 --> 01:21:00,800
[gasps] I'll make a motion to send a
junk rubbish letter.

953
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:04,480
» And you have a second.
>> Thank you.

954
01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:08,239
» Okay, we have a motion and a second
recording so [laughter] you can use it

955
01:21:06,719 --> 01:21:12,400
when you need it.
>> We have a motion and a second to send

956
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:15,199
the junk rubbish letter to 766
Jefferson. All in favor signify by

957
01:21:14,159 --> 01:21:19,960
saying I.
>> I same sign.

958
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:29,159
Um, next one is 806
North Street.

959
01:21:31,199 --> 01:21:37,920
» This vehicle doesn't have a plate. Um,
and there are

960
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:42,719
um
I guess the complaint is only about the

961
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:46,480
car and the fact that it's facing the
wrong direction.

962
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:49,199
So,
Kim, is this something you can check out

963
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:52,679
or
>> Yeah.

964
01:21:49,679 --> 01:21:52,679
» Okay.

965
01:21:54,239 --> 01:22:03,280
» I guess my question is,
>> shouldn't we still send a junk vehicle

966
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:09,679
letter? It'll be good. [laughter]
>> I'll make a motion that we send a junk

967
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:16,960
vehicle letter to 806 North Jefferson
Street uh along with the photograph of

968
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:21,679
this silver or gray car. [clears throat]
>> Is that the correct address of where

969
01:22:18,639 --> 01:22:25,679
this car belongs to? Because it's
>> it's sitting in front of the bear lot.

970
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,280
» It is sitting in front of lot. So, it
wasn't

971
01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:32,880
» I believe there is.
>> Okay.

972
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,880
» We'll let you know.

973
01:22:33,167 --> 01:22:35,187
» [laughter]

974
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:43,040
» Okay, that's that's that's my motion.
>> Is there a second?

975
01:22:42,159 --> 01:22:48,560
» Yes.
>> All in favor signify by A9. I

976
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:52,719
» That was a motion by Ron and a second by
Tim,

977
01:22:50,639 --> 01:22:55,600
I believe.
>> I do have a question though. Would that

978
01:22:54,159 --> 01:23:03,040
be parked in the wrong direction?
Wouldn't that be illegal

979
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:05,760
in a warrant a a ticket?
Cuz this [clears throat] isn't the only

980
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:08,719
vehicle that is parked
>> the wrong way.

981
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:12,239
» No, we've given out warnings for that
before. And typically people don't park

982
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:15,239
the right way.
>> Okay.

983
01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:32,827
» Okay. Um Next one is um 517
East Main Street. [clears throat]

984
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:44,000
Have you heard anything from
>> I'm not in contact with him.

985
01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:48,560
» Who lives at that residence?
>> This This is the property on East Main

986
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:52,000
Street we've been tracking for a while.
They're the ones with the building

987
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:54,080
permit right across from AMS
Construction. Oh,

988
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:58,639
» they were gonna
>> they were supposed to build a garage.

989
01:23:56,480 --> 01:24:02,800
» They came to us a while back with an
inter with an interpreter and they were

990
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:06,639
going to have a garage built by what?
October.

991
01:24:04,639 --> 01:24:12,880
» Yep.
>> So on on this property, my question,

992
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:16,560
Shane, you haven't heard from them.
So

993
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:20,880
would would you like to reach out to
them or do we want to request them to

994
01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:24,560
come to the September meeting for a tax?
>> Have a report.

995
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:27,440
We sent a letter in June,
>> right,

996
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,760
» that just reminds them of what they're
to do,

997
01:24:28,719 --> 01:24:34,480
» right?
>> And if you look at the east end of the

998
01:24:32,639 --> 01:24:40,639
home, you'll find they they're
continually adding items on the east

999
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:45,440
side of their home.
So, I have I have a feeling that I'm not

1000
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:51,840
sure the garage can handle everything
that is on that property, but any we'll

1001
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:57,280
take it from there. And so my opinion is
is that they would have it built by the

1002
01:24:55,120 --> 01:25:04,080
fall. We're not going to meet again
until September, middle of September.

1003
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:11,120
I mean, if they're not started by then,
it's not going to be done in fall. So I

1004
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:16,639
I think we need to send them a letter
and ask them to come to the September

1005
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:18,719
meeting and give us an update.
>> That's my motion.

1006
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:22,080
» You got it.
>> Second. Yeah,

1007
01:25:19,679 --> 01:25:24,960
» Dwight. This is Dwight.
>> Dwight got a second on this motion by

1008
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:29,840
going along.
>> Motion by Ron and a second by Dwight.

1009
01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:38,800
All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. Same assignment.

1010
01:25:34,239 --> 01:25:45,040
Okay. Next one is 1046 Mil Pond Road.
Complaint was filed by

1011
01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:49,040
uh in reference to a trailer parked in
the [clears throat] driveway.

1012
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:56,080
um
too close to a fire hider

1013
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:59,760
which I believe was measured
and

1014
01:25:57,679 --> 01:26:03,600
is far enough away according to state
guidelines.

1015
01:26:00,719 --> 01:26:05,120
» Yeah. The law is 15 ft, isn't it? Go
ahead, Greg.

1016
01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:13,199
» Yeah. Yeah.
>> Okay. At at the time of the complaint,

1017
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:17,920
the trailer was about 18 [snorts] in
from the fire hydrant. So now he's Yeah.

1018
01:26:15,679 --> 01:26:21,199
So, it was parked it was parked on the
south side of the driveway then.

1019
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:25,120
» Okay.
>> And and we haven't been able to

1020
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:31,280
determine whether
>> the fire hydrant

1021
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:36,719
um that ruling pertains to
if you're parked on the street, blocking

1022
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:40,159
the fire hydrant or or what. There's no
definitive

1023
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:45,199
law that says [clears throat]
it's parked on the street or in a

1024
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:50,000
driveway, but they they've moved it and
it's not

1025
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:54,320
» I would think for future reference
purposes,

1026
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:59,679
it would be good to know. The way I
understand it, looking at this picture,

1027
01:26:56,639 --> 01:27:03,040
you can't park on the street in front of
the fire hydrant,

1028
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:06,800
» right? the driveway. I don't think the
driveway has anything to do with the

1029
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:11,520
fire act.
I mean, I'm not chief of the fire

1030
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:17,760
department, but that's the way I would
think that the state ordinance is set up

1031
01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:24,800
curbage because the fire department can
pull up and attach even if the driveway

1032
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:30,800
is completely full. But again, I'm just
speculating. Didn't the complaint form

1033
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:35,840
also mention
uh line of sight backing out of his

1034
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:38,239
driveway? He can't see the street.
>> I went down and pulled into his

1035
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,639
driveway.
>> Yeah.

1036
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:44,320
» And I could see down the old Colonial
Drive.

1037
01:27:42,719 --> 01:27:50,639
So
he has plenty of sight. And And I maybe

1038
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:54,880
that was when [clears throat] it was
closer on the other side.

1039
01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:59,440
» It was Tim. Okay. I think when
>> I can see that

1040
01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:02,800
» when the moved it now, you can see
>> when the RV would have been on the left

1041
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:07,199
side of the driveway, [cough]
that would have been more of an issue.

1042
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:11,760
And that's that's where it was at one
point. So, I think the neighbor has

1043
01:28:09,679 --> 01:28:18,639
listened to their neighbor
>> and has tried to satisfy the on the

1044
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:25,120
north side of the driveway.
>> So, there's no action in this forward on

1045
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:32,000
this move. Okay. Then we have um I think
the last one is

1046
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:36,880
166 Brian Street.
I don't know if we have a an form for

1047
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:41,440
that, but
we had a neighbor that came into lobby

1048
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:44,880
and
this property was still kind of a

1049
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:51,199
monitor property is kind of keep an eye
on it. the last time it was discussed

1050
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:56,239
about the camper. He still is thinking
that there's someone living in that

1051
01:28:52,639 --> 01:29:00,080
camper and he's also concerned with um I
believe it's the blue vehicle. When I

1052
01:28:58,239 --> 01:29:04,159
went and took pictures yesterday, it was
parked correctly, but at times it's

1053
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:09,320
facing to the south on the wrong side of
the street and he was concerned about

1054
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,320
that as well.

1055
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:16,080
and the weeds and stuff around the fence
area.

1056
01:29:14,686 --> 01:29:22,800
[laughter]
The camper does have the bump out on it

1057
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:27,199
out still, but you can't tell if there's
you couldn't tell if there's lights on

1058
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:32,239
in the evening or not. And just a
background, this camper was communicated

1059
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:36,800
to us that someone was living in it at
one time and then when we had reached

1060
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:43,679
out again, they had said that they were
not living in it anymore but remodeling

1061
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:50,320
it and that's why the bump was out. So I
don't know, maybe the police can monitor

1062
01:29:47,679 --> 01:29:57,040
activity to I don't know. I don't know
what we do to

1063
01:29:53,199 --> 01:30:01,719
see if living in it. window.
Of course, it's so

1064
01:30:03,157 --> 01:30:11,760
[clears throat] on the camper.
>> We don't have any clue whether it's

1065
01:30:08,159 --> 01:30:19,280
plated, right? So, I mean, we could send
a jump vehicle notice and say,

1066
01:30:16,639 --> 01:30:24,880
"Show your registration." It it needs to
have a valid license plate. Even if it's

1067
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:28,480
parked on priv private property, it
needs to be plated,

1068
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:33,120
» right?
>> Yeah.

1069
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:40,719
» So, as a starting point, I would like to
at least send them a junk vehicle notice

1070
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:44,000
saying that it needs to be plated
>> or proof of. Yeah.

1071
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:49,280
» Proof of registration.
>> Yeah.

1072
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:52,480
So, that's that's my motion.
There a second. [clears throat]

1073
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:57,760
» I'll second that.
>> Okay.

1074
01:30:54,239 --> 01:31:01,239
All in favor signify by saying I.
>> The same sign.

1075
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:15,040
Okay. The next item on the agenda
is a request to change the October

1076
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:20,000
meeting date from October 21st to
October 14th.

1077
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:26,800
due to some conflicts
during the regular scheduled week.

1078
01:31:24,159 --> 01:31:33,520
So, we're moving it up a week um in
October

1079
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:39,679
from October 21 to October 14th.
So, with with that in mind, if we change

1080
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:44,560
that date, then the letters all need to
say that the properties need to be

1081
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:46,880
resolved before that date
>> be the 13th

1082
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:50,000
» next month.
Oh yeah, I'm sorry. Never mind. We're

1083
01:31:48,639 --> 01:31:57,000
talking further out. [clears throat]
Yeah, we got September to get [laughter]

1084
01:31:53,679 --> 01:31:57,000
ahead of myself.

1085
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:04,000
» I'll make that motion.
>> Okay. Is there a second?

1086
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:09,679
» I'll second it.
>> Okay. We have a motion and a second to

1087
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:14,000
move October's meeting from October 21st
to October 14th. All in favor signify by

1088
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:19,600
saying I.
>> I. Oppose. same sign

1089
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:26,000
» on that October meeting. I mean, we can
decide at the next [clears throat]

1090
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:31,280
meeting, but that might be one we might
end up needing to do at night

1091
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:35,360
for a few of these individuals. So, just
keep that in mind. I would not be

1092
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:38,360
opposed to it.
>> Okay.

1093
01:32:39,440 --> 01:32:47,520
» Other issues?
>> Yes.

1094
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:53,199
805 West Main Street.
The pickup truck is parked on the

1095
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:58,000
sidewalk every day.
Every

1096
01:32:54,880 --> 01:33:00,719
corner of Portland and Yeah. corner of
Portland and Maine,

1097
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:04,480
» but not all day. Sometimes
>> not all day. But

1098
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:07,679
» I I know what you're saying, Dwight.
I've seen it there on the sidewalk, but

1099
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:11,920
I've also seen it in the driveway.
>> There's not sidewalk

1100
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:16,239
» over a lot of what parking.
>> There is not a sidewalk. It's over some

1101
01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:20,320
of what he's parking. Literally not a
sidewalk.

1102
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:22,880
» Well, that's not his fault.
>> He started parking there. His kids were

1103
01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:26,159
falling.
>> Yeah, there is a The concrete is

1104
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:31,120
» I think it's
>> it's up.

1105
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:35,520
» He didn't like dump mud. I mean, he
>> Yeah, I think there's sidewalk there.

1106
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:39,280
It's just been covered for years. So, I
say I've lived in that neighbor my whole

1107
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:46,560
life and I don't and that was my aunt's
house. So, I was there all the time and

1108
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:50,000
when I was a kid that was a mud spot.
So, I'm not saying there's not sidewalk,

1109
01:33:48,239 --> 01:33:54,480
but I know that where he's parking
there's not visible sidewalk that's even

1110
01:33:51,679 --> 01:33:58,159
being utilized. So, I'm not sure if it
like there are no kids trying to ride

1111
01:33:56,639 --> 01:34:00,880
their bikes over there or walk over
there or

1112
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:05,360
» Well, they can't because of the trim.
>> They can't because there's no sidewalk

1113
01:34:02,719 --> 01:34:08,880
» and just for kicks. Just for kids, I
grew up in that house.

1114
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:11,760
» That's That's amazing. You both have
good memories there.

1115
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:15,920
» Yeah, I have great memories there. And I
was there till I was a senior in high

1116
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:20,480
school, which was years ago. But there
is a sidewalk there.

1117
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:25,679
» Well, and I think on that from a decorum
perspective, we want to discuss it.

1118
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:28,400
» We should have a complaint form. We
should officially discuss it at the next

1119
01:34:27,679 --> 01:34:33,679
meeting.
>> I turned one in with a picture.

1120
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:39,040
» I had a picture of the truck.
>> Yeah. So it'll be on the next agenda.

1121
01:34:36,719 --> 01:34:40,960
» No, it's been on a few months ago.
>> Oh, we

1122
01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:44,560
» Yeah,
>> we discussed it. We have a complaint

1123
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:47,600
form on the sidewalk issue or the
trucking park is

1124
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:52,159
» we want to resurrect that complaint
form, then resurrect that complaint form

1125
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:57,520
and we'll take pictures and we'll
discuss it at the next meeting and

1126
01:34:54,560 --> 01:35:01,280
research, you know, what Trish is saying
and what what options there are.

1127
01:35:00,530 --> 01:35:07,360
[clears throat]
But for this board to take action, I

1128
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:11,120
wasn't prepared. So, yeah, I can't talk
speak to it

1129
01:35:08,719 --> 01:35:16,880
» like I could the other properties.
>> And another item I have, I got a call

1130
01:35:13,679 --> 01:35:24,000
Monday night
9:30 from a very prominent businessman

1131
01:35:20,639 --> 01:35:29,920
in burn. He said, "What's being done
with the antique mall?"

1132
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:32,000
He said, "It is deplorable."
Excuse

1133
01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:37,920
me.
>> So, last meeting

1134
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:42,719
somebody was going to contact the lady
that owns it in Bluffton.

1135
01:35:40,639 --> 01:35:47,040
Did that contact been made? Has that
been made?

1136
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:50,560
» I haven't called her, but I have I have
her number. I can call her.

1137
01:35:48,480 --> 01:35:55,120
» Yeah. Someone told me that she was
selling all of the or get trying to get

1138
01:35:52,639 --> 01:36:00,480
rid of all the things that were inside
and she was selling it and she was going

1139
01:35:58,239 --> 01:36:03,600
to sell it. So I don't know.
>> I'll call her report back at the next

1140
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:07,840
meeting.
>> Great.

1141
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:13,679
» Yeah. A number of people have mentioned
to me

1142
01:36:09,679 --> 01:36:16,719
the condition of that
building.

1143
01:36:14,719 --> 01:36:19,600
» I think it's a beautiful historical
building. I wish there would be a

1144
01:36:18,719 --> 01:36:24,080
complaint form.
>> Refurbish it.

1145
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:28,000
» Buy it and refurbish it and make it a
>> museum.

1146
01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:32,320
» Well, a complaint form on that building.
Everybody in Burnham will send it in.

1147
01:36:31,199 --> 01:36:36,480
» That's the main section. [clears throat]
Yeah.

1148
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:42,880
» Yeah. We'd be interested in knowing her
thoughts on the future of that building.

1149
01:36:40,159 --> 01:36:48,560
» Well, [clears throat] the mayor can
reach out. I I still think back to what

1150
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:55,440
I stated at the beginning of the
meeting. Our review board's job at these

1151
01:36:52,880 --> 01:37:00,800
meetings are to review complaint forms
that have been submitted and do what we

1152
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:05,600
did on many cases this morning, come up
with a action plan of what we're going

1153
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:09,840
to do. So that's what this review
board's job is. So

1154
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:13,760
» do we really need a complaint form on
that? I

1155
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:17,040
» that's the process.
>> It is. I mean, what else have we talked

1156
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:20,360
about today that there wasn't a
complaint form?

1157
01:37:20,719 --> 01:37:29,119
That's that's the official way and it's
not I'm not trying to be difficult but

1158
01:37:26,719 --> 01:37:33,040
that's the right way to do it.
>> The mayor will report next month.

1159
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,760
» You can report but then what are we
going to do?

1160
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:40,480
» Well, have to see what what the plans
are.

1161
01:37:36,480 --> 01:37:44,000
» Are we are we waiting for a motion to
retire this meeting?

1162
01:37:42,317 --> 01:37:48,239
» [laughter]
>> I haven't asked for one, John, because

1163
01:37:46,719 --> 01:37:51,920
we still have another item on the
agenda.

1164
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:55,920
» Board comments.
>> It says board comments. If you look at

1165
01:37:53,679 --> 01:37:58,880
your paper,
>> it's not line.

1166
01:37:57,440 --> 01:38:03,280
» Are there any board comments?
>> You can you can file a complaint with

1167
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:07,440
the city or there's forms in the
entryway. I'll get you one if you would

1168
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:11,440
like one. line of sight.
>> What I'm saying is

1169
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:14,000
» that line of sight thing that
>> that has not

1170
01:38:12,239 --> 01:38:18,159
» somebody was talking about
>> that has not been

1171
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:24,080
» it's a line of sight to everybody that
drives fast. So that

1172
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:27,040
» to me that's a very silly
thing to

1173
01:38:25,679 --> 01:38:31,920
» Are there any board comments
>> in writing? Okay.

1174
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:36,719
» Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion.
Okay. The one board comment I did want

1175
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:42,159
to make and I think everything's
everyone's aware of it. The updates to

1176
01:38:40,239 --> 01:38:48,480
the nuisance ordinance that have been
discussed at city council were discussed

1177
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:55,119
on August the 10th. Several of you were
in attendance. Uh those that ordinance

1178
01:38:52,239 --> 01:39:01,040
was introduced at that meeting and it
will be discussed again [clears throat]

1179
01:38:56,480 --> 01:39:08,400
on Monday night the 24th. Um and with
potential action being taken to adopt

1180
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:13,440
it. So just be aware of that and
nuisance for board members. We've shared

1181
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:15,920
the whole ordinance with everybody as we
said we would. So once it was

1182
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:19,840
introduced.
>> Yeah. Once it was introduced. So that

1183
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:22,840
was the one board comment I wanted to
make.

1184
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:28,960
» Okay. I entertain a motion to adjourn.
>> You have it.

1185
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:35,800
» Is [laughter] there a second? Second.
>> All in favor signify by saying I. I.

1186
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:35,800
» Oppos same sign.