[0:02] [laughter]
All right. Um
[0:06] 8:30. Uh this is a meeting for the burn
distance review board. We have a quorum
[0:12] this morning and uh order the business
meeting. Our first item is approval of
[0:18] minutes from our July 15 meeting.
>> Mayor.
[0:21] » Yeah. If if I could [clears throat]
before we go into the order of business
[0:26] meeting and go through the approval of
minutes and property review and new
[0:31] properties, [laughter]
there's enough new people here in the
[0:35] audience. I guess if it's okay, I'd just
like to make a couple [clears throat]
[0:40] editorial comments before we get
started. So, appreciate everyone being
[0:44] here. Um, just to make sure that we're
all on the same page as we start our
[0:49] discussions. The nuisance review board
was established two years ago and this
[0:56] group
that meets once a month is responsible
[1:02] for reviewing complaint forms that have
been submitted to the city for
[1:09] consideration and to be addressed. So
that's what this board every member has
[1:16] been established to do. So our job as
individuals on the nuisance review board
[1:21] is to sit in a meeting [clears throat]
kind of be the I guess mediators of
[1:28] neighborhood concerns and issues and to
review those you know complaint forms
[1:35] that have been submitted. So that's what
we've all been requested to do this
[1:41] board and that's what we're going to do
this morning. We have, I would say, a
[1:47] record number of properties to review
today. So, this meeting is going to take
[1:52] a little bit of time. It's going to take
a little bit of patience. And what I
[1:56] hope we will do is that I hope we'll
methodically and compassionately
[2:02] go through each of these properties,
discuss them, and with deser discernment
[2:08] come up with what the right
recommendation as a nuisance review
[2:12] board would be.
So, that's kind of what I want to just
[2:18] throw out there to set the stage for the
meeting even before we get into any of
[2:23] the property reviews. Um so so mayor one
one question I would have an addition
[2:30] before we get started you know as we go
through the properties I think in the
[2:36] past you know as we've gone through
property by property
[2:42] you know if there's anyone in attendance
that has input on that property
[2:48] I think it's fair for them to provide
their input at that point in
[2:53] [clears throat] time while we're
discussing
[2:56] not not after we've made a decision,
while we're making the discussion, while
[3:01] we're having the dialogue. So, that that
would be a suggestion I would have. I
[3:06] know with the last meeting, we did that
with one of the properties and I thought
[3:10] it worked effectively. So, anyways,
that's my soap box and my two cents
[3:16] before we get going. So, thank you for
listening. Okay. Um, [laughter]
[3:26] so
are we I [clears throat] think we I
[3:29] don't think we approved the minutes.
>> No, I I jumped in before that. I would
[3:33] make a motion we approve the July 15th
burn nations review board meeting
[3:37] minutes as presented.
>> Okay. So, there's a motion on the floor.
[3:40] Is there a second?
>> I'll second it.
[3:42] » Second by Cal. All in favor signify by
saying I.
[3:46] » I post same sign.
Okay. Um the next item on the agenda is
[3:52] property review. Um that is previous
properties that that have had complaints
[3:58] filed against them. Um and
our first property is u
[4:07] 753 North Carolina Street.
Um [clears throat]
[4:13] there are photos there from July and
August.
[4:18] Um,
so going back to the last meeting,
[4:23] [clears throat]
I believe, which was on July the 15th,
[4:27] we just approved meeting minutes limits.
So at that meeting, we were going to
[4:32] send a grass and weed letter. Um, and I
believe we we say in the review of
[4:40] properties documentation we have in
front of us that that was sent via
[4:44] certified mail on July the 16th.
So my question, no one's currently
[4:51] living in that property. So where do we
send it? Did we send the water bill to a
[4:58] another address that
>> it goes to where their um property taxes
[5:03] go? They're outside Decator in the
country.
[5:06] » Okay. So that's where they get their
water built also then I'm assuming.
[5:11] » Yeah.
>> Okay. And that's where we would have
[5:13] sent the certified letter.
>> Mhm. [clears throat]
[5:16] » So do we do we know that they received
it? Did we have
[5:20] » Yeah. The receipt.
>> Okay. So they received it. Um, and for
[5:25] the grass and and weed letter, they were
given the normal 10 days to remediate.
[5:35] And
I don't know, in my opinion, it doesn't
[5:38] look like they've remediated. [laughter]
>> Well, if that was sent mid July, we're
[5:43] in mid August now. And it's rained a
lot.
[5:47] And I would say this looks pretty normal
for being cut. And then we've received a
[5:54] lot of rain and
my yard grew a lot in this past week. So
[5:59] I don't know if you can say this is a
month's worth of growth or did they mow
[6:04] it and this is a couple weeks worth of
growth.
[6:09] » Okay.
>> Hard for me to tell.
[6:11] » Yeah.
Then from a I guess from a process
[6:16] perspective,
I mean would we have checked them 10
[6:20] days after
they would have received the letter so
[6:24] that we know what it was on July the
26th?
[6:33] » Ron, is this the is the owner Vicky
Ellis?
[6:37] » Yeah,
>> I think you talked with her. You
[6:40] mentioned you talked with her a number a
number of weeks ago.
[6:45] » She was at one of our meetings
>> twice.
[6:49] » So she owns she owns this letter.
[6:54] » So So to Chief Taylor's, you know,
point.
[6:59] » I don't know whether it was in good
shape 10 days after the certified letter
[7:05] arrived in [clears throat] July or not.
So, I guess we can't really say yes or
[7:10] no on that for sure.
>> I would think that I would bet on it
[7:17] that it was weeks before.
[7:22] » So, what
>> you handle it the way you think is best,
[7:25] but this is not just happened in the
last two weeks.
[7:29] What what I would recommend since we've
been down this road with them before
[7:34] that we send another grass and weed
letter certified
[7:39] and that we
>> follow up at 10 days and if it has not
[7:45] been remediated then we take steps to
remediate like we would normally do. And
[7:53] I guess the other thing I would
recommend when we add some sort of cover
[7:58] letter to these letters that we mail
out, we seem to get better response
[8:03] because we tell them specifically what
the issue is and the concern is in the
[8:09] case of this one.
They're not from burn. They're not
[8:14] living in the property. So they need to
make sure they're mowing when they're
[8:22] working on the property. When they come
down to do their construction work, they
[8:28] need to mow, you know, just like they
were living in it. So that that would be
[8:33] my motion. And I think we need to need
need to send them another grass and weed
[8:37] letter and we need to also include some
sort of cover letter that hey
[8:44] you need to take care of your property
not living.
[8:48] » What would be the time [clears throat]
>> on a on a grass and weed letter? It's
[8:53] always they got 10 days to remediate.
So, we send out mowing letters that are
[9:00] five days,
>> which I'm fine with five days.
[9:04] » So,
>> I mean, because
[9:05] » if I would say if it's just mowing, if
it's over the 8 in, normally we have
[9:10] police go out and measure. If it's over
the 8 in, we send a mowing letter
[9:14] » and then we follow up in five. If they
haven't mowed it, the city can either
[9:18] mow it or we can pay someone to
>> and maybe the reason why it wasn't
[9:23] checked up was it wasn't a mowing
letter. It was a business letter.
[9:26] » Yeah. those we stay on top of and check
up with and then we invoice them for if
[9:31] we would do that.
>> I think that would be a better solution
[9:35] for this because it's a shorter time
period. There's better followup for more
[9:40] followup. [laughter] So, I would alter
my motion to sending a mowing letter by
[9:47] certified mail to the owner um and then
follow up on it and if it's not
[9:54] remediate. the other things that we've
talked to them about as far as keeping
[9:59] the yard and stuff cleaned up while
they're working on the property in the
[10:04] backyard. They're doing that. It's the
front yard that is on Jefferson Street.
[10:09] It just doesn't look very good and it
needs to be tended to better and they
[10:16] don't live there. So, they need to be
more responsible on making it happen on
[10:21] a regular basis. At the bottom of the
pictures that went with the letter last
[10:25] time, we put grass seeds mowed weeds on
the entire property. Both front yard,
[10:30] sidey yards, backyard, and behind the
garage all need trimmed. This was sent
[10:34] with the letter, too.
>> Okay.
[10:36] » So, with the pictures
>> and I'm okay sending the pictures with
[10:42] the pictures that we have with the
letter.
[10:46] » I'll make that motion.
>> Excuse me. So, we're saying within 10
[10:51] days this has to be mowed. Five days.
>> Perfect.
[10:56] » Because we're doing a mowing letter,
>> not a nuisance,
[11:00] » versus a letter from the nuisance
ordinance.
[11:03] » Okay.
>> Where we've always used 10 days as the
[11:07] norm.
>> Okay.
[11:09] » So, it's actually a shorter time frame
than we did last time.
[11:15] » Okay. So, we have we have a motion and a
second. All in favor signify by saying
[11:20] I.
>> I oppose. Same sign.
[11:28] » Okay. The next um property is 306
Winridge.
[11:33] Um
he was issued a
[11:38] [cough and clears throat] $100 fine on
July the 20th
[11:43] and he stopped in and
[11:50] said that he couldn't pay the fine.
[11:55] So,
um I said, "Well," I said, "It's up to
[11:59] you whether you paid it or not." Um he
said, "Well, if I don't pay it, they'll
[12:06] issue a warrant for my arrest."
Um, [clears throat] and I said, "Well, I
[12:12] don't know if that exactly happens, but
anyway, he just said he couldn't pay it.
[12:17] He's dealing with a lot of a lot of
issues. His dad's sick. Um,
[12:24] he's had multiple reasons for
not being able to pay it." Um, so I I
[12:33] said, "Well, it's it's a fine that is
due and you owe the fine." and um and he
[12:39] walked out. So,
>> and when was this, Greg?
[12:44] » It was um
>> when he came in.
[12:46] » It was the day the fine was due. He came
in. It was right after Swiss stays that
[12:50] Monday.
>> Yeah.
[12:51] » After Swiss,
>> right? It was right after Yeah, it was
[12:54] right after Swiss stays.
>> So, what [clears throat] what follows
[12:59] this situation?
Um what what I would like to interject
[13:06] this property
even from our last meeting if you look
[13:11] at the two pictures
um Greg I think you mentioned to him at
[13:16] one point in time
maybe getting just a little better
[13:21] organized with what you have on your
front porch
[13:25] and he definitely has attempted to do
that. It's all kind of up by the front
[13:32] door where it used to be kind of all
over the place in the backyard. Um, they
[13:38] have worked on some of the vegetation. I
mean, you know, hauling away some of the
[13:44] stuff that they've cut down would be
helpful, but they've cut some stuff
[13:48] down. And if you remember right, they
had several vehicles that it took a
[13:53] while for them to get removed. They did
get removed. Um they had an unsafe
[14:00] vehicle um sitting in front that was up
on jacks that we asked them to make safe
[14:07] and get remediated. They did that. Um so
from where this was six months ago, they
[14:16] have made strides.
>> So what are you suggesting, Ron? Yeah,
[14:21] [clears throat]
>> I'm suggesting at this point I'm not
[14:25] sure
what more we want to push for.
[14:32] I mean, I drove by this property last
night and it's it's not half as bad as
[14:38] it was six months ago. So, I'm not
I guess would I like to see more
[14:47] progress?
Yeah. But under the circumstances,
[14:52] I'm not sure
what what the next step would be.
[14:58] [clears throat]
>> How does the
[14:59] » fine the fine is still there,
>> right? The fine is still a record. We
[15:03] can turn that into the state,
>> which means if there's a tax refund, we
[15:07] can attach that. But I think what you're
saying is other than that still hanging
[15:13] out there, um there's been progress.
So if there's no progress, then what's
[15:20] your next step?
>> I if there isn't any progress, you can
[15:25] keep assessing fines that you may not
collect right away.
[15:30] » But yeah,
>> at what point do we put a lean on the
[15:32] home?
>> We don't have that capability,
[15:38] » but we do have a capability of
attaching, like I said, through the
[15:41] state. We can attach tax refunds, those
kind of things.
[15:45] I mean, I think there's two options.
You could either find them again
[15:54] or we could monitor the pro monitor the
progress to make sure it doesn't go the
[15:59] other direction. So, un those are my two
options, but maybe someone else has
[16:06] another option.
We can find him again. But I my thoughts
[16:12] are if he says he can't afford to pay
the $100, he won't be able to afford to
[16:16] pay the $200. So, but if he doesn't make
progress, we can find him again.
[16:24] » If it gets worse,
>> if it gets worse or if it gets worse,
[16:27] » starts again.
>> Go ahead, Dwight. You were going to say
[16:31] something. So, we've been living at this
for six months.
[16:37] » But you have to you have to remember
what it looked like six months ago. I
[16:40] mean, there was a car dug in the back of
the
[16:44] » truck
>> or a truck in the back of the yard.
[16:47] There was cars without tires on jacks in
the front. I mean,
[16:51] » a car without an engine.
>> This home is trying.
[16:55] » You have to remember also that that
place looked like that 20 years ago.
[17:02] Does he own the property?
>> His dad does.
[17:06] His father owns the property.
[clears throat]
[17:08] » We know this individual.
>> I I just know the guy that comes in.
[17:13] It's his son. But
>> had him several times.
[17:15] » Yeah.
Until we had until we had nuisance
[17:19] board.
There wasn't any complaint filed to the
[17:24] nuisance board, but that property looked
those vehicles that we asked him to
[17:29] remove that were removed. Those vehicles
were there 15 or 20 years ago because I
[17:34] remember driving past the property.
>> Would wouldn't wouldn't this violation
[17:39] have some effect on the owner of that
home?
[17:44] » Well, the owner is his dad is living in
there.
[17:47] » That's what I'm asking. Where does his
dad come in? He owns the property.
[17:52] » His dad is sick with cancer. So, the boy
is taking care of him.
[18:00] » I mean, who who was the fine levied
against? The homeowner.
[18:04] » Yeah.
>> The homeowner who the dad was who the
[18:08] fine was levied against.
The son comes in and reports
[18:15] what they've done and what they can or
can't do. So,
[18:20] » so I guess my question is if we let this
slide now, we're going to let it slide
[18:26] again next month.
>> If this picture looks just
[18:30] » I think we need to determine that if is
this something we can live with or is
[18:37] this something we need to keep pressing?
Are we happy with the progress we've
[18:41] made already, which is huge in my
opinion
[18:45] » and
Can the board take a vote
[18:50] on what to go what to pursue with it or
to leave it as is
[18:55] » and just monitor it?
>> What is your suggestion?
[18:59] » My suggestion?
>> Yeah.
[19:01] » Personally, I could live with this.
They've done a great job working with
[19:07] us.
>> Tim, if this was your next door
[19:11] neighbor, would you agree to let this
slide? If this was right,
[19:16] » say I probably would. Yeah.
>> Really?
[19:20] » See, I can't do that.
>> Yeah.
[19:22] » If you look at the pictures, if you
[clears throat] look from 714 to 8:18
[19:28] and take a close look at the front
porch,
[19:32] to me,
it looks the same. Probably they're
[19:37] using that for storage.
[cough and clears throat]
[19:40] They said their garage is full, so
they're storing their
[19:44] belongings out there underneath the
front porch.
[19:48] [clears throat]
>> You know, if all the residents of Burn
[19:51] did this,
[laughter]
[19:55] I don't know that we can that we can
just turn a blind eye and say, "This is
[20:03] okay. We'll let this one go." How many
more are we going to let go?
[20:08] Yeah. I don't think we can do it. I
really don't.
[20:12] » If you let one go, then you're gonna let
somebody else go.
[20:16] » Is this rubbish or is this stuff that
they belong that they own and
[20:22] cherish or need or
>> need the mower?
[20:28] » Need the mower. Yeah.
>> Mower could be in the backyard.
[20:35] We complain that it's in the backyard.
Then
[20:37] » I think it looks like he just mowed
though.
[20:45] » I think we just continue to monitor this
property.
[20:51] » If we're going to do something, we need
to look in the nuisance ordinance and
[20:56] find specifically
what they're in um conflict with.
[21:08] I suggest we decide what we're going to
do and let's move on.
[21:13] [clears throat]
>> Well, I guess I'll make just just so we
[21:19] all know how the motion process works.
Dave, keep us straight.
[21:24] » I do have a suggestion. Um, I'm working
with Kelly Amstead, so I'm putting
[21:28] together a spreadsheet of local
community members that are willing to
[21:34] possibly help with a situation like
this. Can we monitor at this time and
[21:39] then when I get the list, maybe put him
in contact with somebody like a church
[21:42] group or youth group that would be
willing to go over there and possibly
[21:46] work on these vines in the backyard um
to clean up the backyard a little bit
[21:50] more. The rubbish in the in the front, I
don't know what we can do about that. He
[21:54] obviously can't afford a storage unit if
you can't afford to pay the fine.
[21:59] » I think that's a good suggestion.
>> And I will be more than happy to put him
[22:04] in contact with somebody that would be
willing to help him, especially if his
[22:08] dad's ill and he's taking him to to
appointments. He probably doesn't have
[22:12] the time
>> or he might not even have a saw.
[22:14] » And I think there might be some groups
in town that would come in that
[22:19] situation.
>> Yeah. And we're working on getting a
[22:20] group and Kelly on on that idea. I think
it's a a great idea. I think that
[22:29] information probably needs to be
reviewed with the nuisance review board
[22:35] that this is [snorts] information that
we're going to include in future
[22:39] letters. Um, so that was the one
recommendation I was going to have on
[22:43] that. Um, I think it's a great idea.
We've talked about Neighborlink before.
[22:48] Neighborlink would be a great
organization to get reinvived. Um, it
[22:55] was great when it started. Um, but it
could use a little uh, you know,
[23:00] transfusion of energy. Um, so
[clears throat]
[23:04] I I would be fine based on what you're
saying. I'll make a motion, John, to
[23:10] your point and then we can see if we can
move forward. So, so my motion is
[23:16] I would like to see us monitor the
property at 306 Moon Ridge Trail for
[23:22] another month, make sure that it doesn't
go
[23:27] backwards,
and at the next meeting, if we have
[23:32] groups that are identified that could
help this
[23:37] owner, that we would include that
information in a communication to them.
[23:42] So that's my motion.
>> Could we include
[23:46] getting some help [clears throat] at
this point?
[23:50] » Not at this point because there is
>> Let's Let's consider that.
[23:54] » Well, I can send them the neighbor link
brochure that we have in our lobby
[23:57] » and send that to them and just put a a
handote in there telling them that we're
[24:01] working with
>> other council members to come up with a
[24:04] list. [clears throat]
>> We've done that before on a couple other
[24:07] properties. We've sent them the neighbor
link.
[24:10] » [clears throat]
>> Now,
[24:11] » you know what I have in common?
>> If they have a lot of stuff on the
[24:16] porch, it's been sitting there for a
year, they haven't been using it. So,
[24:22] why wouldn't you just get rid of it if
you're not using it? Um, sell some of
[24:28] it. That give them a little money or
just just get rid of their junk. Um, if
[24:36] they're not using it. that that's just
the common sense thing that they could
[24:41] do. Wouldn't cost them anything.
>> Ron, let's kind of just leave things
[24:47] look terrible.
>> Let's move on with
[24:52] » interjecting her her suggestion.
>> So, I will add your that point to my
[24:58] motion.
>> Okay.
[24:59] » And that's my motion
>> and I'm a second.
[25:02] » Okay.
>> Okay. We have a motion and a second. All
[25:05] in favor signify by saying I.
>> I post same sign.
[25:18] Okay. The next um property is 465 North
Broner Street. [clears throat]
[25:30] Um it's been going on for two years.
[25:36] two years that property um has
um
[25:44] we had had we had had a talk with the
owner and the owner said he was going to
[25:49] have a fence installed as of August
18th.
[25:54] And I've that fence is not up because
the fence company hasn't been down to
[25:59] put it up because I think they're busy.
they can't they just haven't been able
[26:03] to get here from what I understand
unless somebody else has something. Um
[26:08] so we're still waiting on that fence um
to be put up on that property. Um
[26:16] and [clears throat]
[26:19] the um he had
he had stopped in and had a talk with me
[26:26] after he got a warning letter and
I think I mentioned this last at the
[26:36] last meeting. He um
he is on disability. His wife
[26:44] was sick or had been hurt um and was off
of work for several months and she's
[26:51] back to work now. And so I told him at
that point in time if he could just
[26:57] [clears throat] make his things um
more orderly looking that that would go
[27:03] a long way with with our committee just
to have it look a little nicer. I don't
[27:10] know if he has done
um done that totally, but um
[27:18] [clears throat]
[27:21] that that was his comments to me when he
stopped in and I told him I think the
[27:25] committee would just appreciate
um
[27:30] seeing an effort on your part to make
things look a little more orderly and
[27:36] not not like a mini junkyard.
So
[27:43] he um
I thought he understood what that meant.
[27:49] He sounded like he did. So, but I know
the trailer
[27:54] um that this is his way of trying to
make money since he's on disability is
[27:59] to
um gather these items on a trailer and
[28:04] then take them someplace and sell them.
And um
[28:09] so that's why we see the trailer empty
sometimes and then the next week it's
[28:13] full again.
>> Shouldn't be a trailer on the property
[28:16] like that.
[28:20] » Half the time it's almost in the front
yard.
[28:23] » I don't know. We You know, we kicked
this thing down the street for two
[28:28] years. This came up in August of 24.
Here we are in August of 26 and nothing
[28:35] is changing.
>> Okay. So, let me interject.
[28:38] [clears throat]
>> I'm ready.
[28:39] » We had this discussion at the last
meeting when the owner was here. They've
[28:46] not been on the nuisance review board
list for two years. There was a window
[28:52] six, [laughter] seven months where they
addressed their first list of issues we
[28:58] had with them and they were off. So, we
can't say that they've been on for a
[29:05] continuous period. They've been on for
two periods.
[29:09] » At the beginning, it was it was the
front yard and we they addressed what we
[29:13] said,
>> right? So, that got addressed and then
[29:16] the second time it came up, it is the
scrap. It is the trailer. It is the
[29:22] backyard. And at the last meeting when
the owner was here,
[29:28] he said he told us, you can read your
meeting minutes, that the owner is
[29:33] buying or the renter is buying the
property [laughter] off of them on a
[29:38] land contract.
and he the owner had come up with an
[29:43] agreement with them that the owner would
the property owner would pay for a fence
[29:50] and then he would add that to the amount
that they owe on the house and both
[29:56] sides were agreeable to that. And what
we left the last meeting with is if they
[30:03] can get the fence up and like the mayor
said, make things a little more orderly,
[30:10] then they would address the things that
are in front of us. So here we are now
[30:14] at this meeting. The fence isn't done.
So, so my thought
[30:21] reviewing this and getting ready for
this meeting is I think the owner
[30:27] and renter need to be requested to come
to the next meeting and give us an
[30:33] update where they are one month from now
because I don't I don't know that we can
[30:40] take any other steps other than that
today.
[30:43] » Good suggestion.
>> Okay. Uh
[30:47] September the 20th of 2024,
newspaper clipping 465 Sprunger Street
[30:55] is addressed.
>> Proof is in the pudding.
[30:59] » Right.
>> So, aren't we a little tired of keep
[31:02] talking about 465 Sprunger Street? I'm
tired of it. [snorts]
[31:07] that how much longer are we going to
talk about this property and not really
[31:13] get to the issue?
[31:18] Are we just going to keep pushing this
thing down the road? [clears throat] I I
[31:21] I can't agree with this.
>> So to Ron's point though, it was on
[31:28] September 24, right? That's what you
just said.
[31:31] » September the 20th of 2024. Okay. It was
in the burn track week. Okay. Then it
[31:37] went but then that nuisance thing was
taken care of and they were were not on
[31:43] our list for a period of time until he
started scrapping and we had issues with
[31:50] the items that were back there by his uh
>> carport
[31:56] » uh carport. Right.
>> You told him put it in a fence.
[32:00] » Yeah. Okay. Right.
>> Okay.
[32:04] » So what's your suggestion, mayor? Excuse
me, John. So,
[32:08] » this came up.
>> Go ahead.
[32:10] » This came up on December 20 of 24.
We talked about it February the 14th of
[32:18] 25. This is ongoing.
>> So,
[32:21] » and again, and again on March the 21st
of 25 and here we are again with this
[32:28] property.
>> So, what what came up in February and
[32:31] March?
>> We've talked about this many times. What
[32:34] came up about
the property in 25 the the scrapping or
[32:40] was it the stuff that was in the front
yard?
[32:42] » Probably all the above.
>> I can't I would have to go through here.
[32:47] I've got it in here.
>> Well, I think I think the property first
[32:52] came up because of the stuff that was
parked in the front yard that he had
[32:55] garden tractors and stuff parked in his
front yard. They took care of that and
[33:00] then they were off our radar, so to
speak, because they took care of that
[33:04] complaint form and then there was
another complaint form filed
[33:07] [clears throat] on behalf of that
property with the stuff that was in the
[33:13] carport when he started scrapping.
>> I think there were several rounds,
[33:16] » but I don't know what the time frame.
>> I think there were several rounds about
[33:19] the front yard. Yeah.
>> And each time they they took care of it,
[33:23] then it happened again. And so, but but
in the end, but now there's it's not the
[33:29] front yard, it's the backyard. And so,
and I think what the what the board had
[33:33] told him is that if you build a fence
and put everything inside there, you're
[33:37] going to probably be okay. The fence
hasn't gotten built.
[33:41] So can we come to some sort of
[laughter] statement or conclusion at
[33:46] this point [clears throat]
to get
[33:48] » again back to making motions and seeing
whether there's a majority that wants to
[33:55] go with the motion.
I hear what you're saying, Dwight. I do.
[34:01] That's this is this property has been
discussed for a while. But
[34:07] » what do you what do you suggest, Dwight?
What do I suggest? I what I would
[34:13] suggest absolutely you got to go to the
pocketbook.
[34:18] » Money talks and all that other stuff
walks. You know, you get we've talked to
[34:23] the owner of the property and that owner
is just
[34:28] we all know it. So,
if this place was beside my property,
[34:39] I'd invite the man over over a cup of
coffee and let's talk about this. And
[34:43] what are we going to do? You have to
clean it up.
[34:48] Dave, if this place was beside your
place, you would absolutely have a fit.
[34:52] » I'd be talking to my neighbor.
>> Absolutely.
[34:55] » See what I could help do. But we've
talked to the owner,
[34:58] » but the city's not in that position.
Yeah.
[35:01] » You know, and the fence isn't that's a
band-aid. That's all it is is a
[35:07] band-aid.
[35:11] I I don't I don't know what the answer
is here, but we got to do something as a
[35:15] board. We got to put some teeth in it.
I guess I guess I'm still going to go
[35:21] back to our last meeting when the owner
was here and we gave them in our meeting
[35:28] minutes the agreement that they could
proceed with the fence and then
[35:35] hopefully that would resolve the
situation. The fence isn't there yet. So
[35:41] the owner's not here. I don't know why
the fence isn't here yet. Um, but I
[35:47] guess I'm just going to go ahead and
make a motion.
[35:49] » [clears throat]
>> My motion is that we send a letter to
[35:54] the owner and to the renter
and request them to attend the September
[36:04] um nuisance review board meeting with an
updated plan on when the fence is going
[36:11] to be in place and what they are going
to do to
[36:16] just address any issues we would have as
a board on their property. So
[36:23] » second.
>> That's my motion.
[36:24] » Let's let's move on it with a second.
>> Okay, we have a motion and a second. All
[36:30] in favor signify by saying I.
>> I post same sign.
[36:38] Okay. 866 West Van Beurren.
Um
[36:45] shed has been relocated to the backyard.
Um, letter was delivered on July 16th.
[36:52] Owner was to have the rubbish cleaned up
by 8:17.
[36:56] Um,
and they've made progress on that
[37:01] [clears throat and laughter] property.
From what the pictures I see, all the
[37:07] tires and the trash cans have been moved
away from that fence.
[37:13] Um,
Anybody
[37:19] else have any comments on this property?
We continue to monitor the property.
[37:23] » I I think [clears throat] getting the
shed moved was huge. I know that wasn't
[37:28] a nuisance review board matter. So,
Shannon, thanks for coordinating that
[37:33] effort. Um the tires and rubbish that
are there in the 714 picture that we
[37:41] specifically sent them the letter on
last time um are gone. It's hard to see
[37:46] in the picture, but they're not there.
The one thing I did want to ask about um
[37:53] and looking at this property in a little
more detail than last night um the
[37:58] trailer that's there um at one point
they had a trailer with no tires and
[38:04] stuff on it. I think this is it, right?
>> No, I I think you describing that maybe.
[38:09] » Okay, so this this trailer to me and
maybe I couldn't see it. It's not
[38:16] plated. It would need to be plated,
right, [laughter]
[38:19] » to be legal.
>> Yeah.
[38:21] » So,
>> I would like to send them a letter like
[38:26] we've done to some of the other
properties and thank them for their
[38:29] progress, but I would also like to still
send a I think junk vehicle is what we
[38:36] would consider it because it's not
licensed.
[38:40] send them a junk vehicle letter
and circle the the trailer. And Chief
[38:48] Taylor, if if you want to check that
before we mail it to make sure my eyes
[38:54] aren't deceiving me, that would that
would be the only thing I would see that
[39:00] they still need to do. and and we're
going to be we're going to be talking
[39:03] about other vehicles coming up in the
meeting with not valid plates and things
[39:09] like that. So, this can just be the
first one on the docket.
[39:14] So,
I would make that as a motion.
[39:19] » Okay, [clears throat] we have a motion
and a second.
[39:22] » All in favor signify by saying I
post same sign.
[39:30] » Okay.
Um,
[39:33] next property is 75 High Street.
A, um, rubbish and junk letter was
[39:40] delivered on 716.
Property owner staff items removed by
[39:46] 7:26.
Um,
[39:50] and looks like most of those items are
still there. So,
[39:55] um, do we send another letter with a
fine attached to it if it's not remedi
[40:01] remediated in 10 days? Well, I I think
on this one, back to kind of the process
[40:09] that we had talked about a few meetings
ago and that I reailed to everyone
[40:14] yesterday or the day before. Um the
first meeting we discussed the the
[40:21] complaint form and then we send a letter
which that's happened. We're now at the
[40:28] second meeting.
What I would suggest doing is we send a
[40:33] another letter set, the same letter set,
and this one being the second iteration,
[40:41] that an official warning citation be
added to it so that they know that the
[40:48] next step is occurring
because I mean in looking looking at
[40:54] these items and looking at the ordinance
this morning, the vehicle that's on the
[41:01] ground, doesn't have an engine, and it's
just sitting there. That is definitely
[41:07] right spelled out in the ordinance, a
jump vehicle. The white vehicle, I don't
[41:13] know if it's got a valid license plate
or not. If it doesn't have a valid
[41:17] license plate, then it also comes under
the junk vehicle ordinance. The red
[41:23] truck is I believe what the gentleman
drives because it was not there last
[41:29] night. Um so it comes and goes. So the
other two are really what I think are in
[41:36] question. So since they've made no
progress, they've not followed up to
[41:41] tell us anything. Um we can also invite
them to the next meeting if they would
[41:46] like to attend.
>> We need to [clears throat]
[41:49] send a weed letter to
along with it. It looks like there's
[41:54] leads along the cars that are sitting
there.
[41:59] That's that's fine, mayor.
>> Or a kind combination letter of sorts.
[42:07] So to keep John happy, that's I'll be
willing to make a motion to keep
[42:13] [clears throat] us moving forward.
Make a motion that we send a junk
[42:18] vehicle, a junk and rubbish letter, and
a grass and weed letter with a warning
[42:26] citation to the 705 High Street
property.
[42:31] » That's my motion. [cough]
>> You need a second?
[42:34] » Yeah,
>> you heard it.
[42:35] » Okay,
>> we'll move on. We got a vote yet, John.
[42:39] » We got today, John.
>> We got We got a vote yet, John. We have
[42:43] a motion.
[42:46] [laughter]
>> For goodness sake.
[42:49] » We have a mot. We have a motion in a
second. All in favor signify by saying
[42:53] I. I.
>> Okay.
[42:59] Next item on the agenda is
>> Mayor. Can I ask a real quick question?
[43:03] So, like on 705 High Street, when we
send these letters, we know
[43:10] that we're sending them [clears throat]
to the owner that that they own the
[43:14] property. I mean, if it would be a
rental situation, we would send them
[43:19] both.
>> Okay.
[43:21] Thanks.
[43:24] That would be if the if the utilities
are going to a render and the property
[43:29] unit is something right and it goes
above. [clears throat]
[43:33] Okay.
>> Okay. The next um item on our agenda is
[43:39] our new properties or new complaint
forms
[43:43] that have um
been sent in or dropped off.
[43:50] And the first one in on the property on
the new property review. The first
[43:56] picture that we have is from two it's
either 256 or 266 Baltimore Street. And
[44:05] the initial complaint was for a
um
[44:11] vehicle in the alley. Um
and the
[44:18] » truck vehicle has been removed.
Um
[44:25] cuz it was a the complaint form talked
about a fire truck in the alley. That
[44:30] that vehicle has been removed. However,
there are two other vehicles still in
[44:35] the alley that need to be uh removed um
from the alley. And
[44:43] » I think there's a trailer, too. Trailer.
Yeah.
[44:46] » The car [clears throat] to the west of
the fire truck. The license plate was
[44:52] 20,023.
And as I went by yesterday, the fire
[44:57] truck is in the yard,
>> right?
[45:00] » In the front.
>> Yeah.
[45:04] Well, on on this property,
[clears throat]
[45:07] so we're we're talking about
basically alley rightway stuff, right,
[45:13] Dave?
>> Yeah. Yeah. You can't block a public
[45:16] way.
>> So So page four in the nuisance
[45:20] ordinance talks about campers
[clears throat] and trailers and things
[45:24] like that not being allowed to be parked
in a public way for more than 24 hours
[45:30] in a 30-day period. So the trailer's
definitely
[45:35] Well, the trailer's attached to the
truck. So
[45:38] » what you're citing though is is like if
if it's parked on the side of the road,
[45:42] but people can still get through when
you completely block an alley, then
[45:49] operational fire trucks can't get
through as well as utility workers.
[45:55] That's what that's what
>> and it's been that way. I
[45:58] » think you can only park in an alley like
that for like 15 years. It's just
[46:01] onloading and offloading.
>> Here are being blocked. That's the
[46:04] thing.
>> It's been that way for months. And I'm a
[46:08] little surprised
that the neighbors
[46:12] haven't complained.
And you know some of the neighbors very
[46:18] well, Mayor.
>> We haven't had a complaint form filed.
[46:23] John,
>> that's cuz he's an elected official.
[46:27] » I suggest sending a letter.
[46:32] so much time. And
>> so, so this this property, we're talking
[46:37] about it at the nuisance review board,
>> but is not nuisance ordinance specific.
[46:44] » Yeah.
>> So, this isn't even honestly, this isn't
[46:47] something that had to come to this
board.
[46:50] » Yeah. It's it's really something that
the police department should just take
[46:54] care of.
>> So, I think out of this, what do we want
[46:59] to say? We're gonna do
>> I can just
[47:12] with that police department will address
this.
[47:27] Okay.
>> [laughter]
[47:28] » The next next property is uh 466
Baltimore Street,
[47:35] which um has been on our radar before
for
[47:41] um
>> other other
[47:44] » other issues that they addressed by
putting up a fence. And now this is a
[47:49] new complaint form
addressing
[47:54] some of the other things that have shown
up around the property that are of a
[47:58] concerning nature.
So um [clears throat]
[48:04] we had um I believe
um
[48:11] three
three complaint forms filed on behalf of
[48:15] this property.
Anybody
[48:19] [clears throat]
[48:38] here? Anybody here that wants to provide
any comments on this property?
[48:43] The less on that property are as tall as
the cars.
[48:48] [clears throat]
>> I mean, are they
[48:50] » I walk I walk the streets
and it's just unbelievable.
[48:56] [clears throat]
>> Okay. I mean,
[48:58] » so they have two cars that obviously
haven't been moved in months because the
[49:04] weeds have grown up all around them.
>> Okay. And I guess this is a little bit
[49:09] personal for us is we once lived in this
house back in the 80s,
[49:14] but I hope you guys don't think the
fence solved the problem
[49:19] because you still see the junk on the
other side of the fence. There was even
[49:22] a temporary shack behind the fence where
it looked like somebody might be living.
[49:28] I mean, this place
of all the properties in burn, this was
[49:33] to me
one that's just been sitting there for
[49:36] several years. I can't even walk by it
without getting sick. I just
[49:42] » Okay, I need to say a couple years ago
Tammy was here and she said she said,
[49:47] "My goodness, that property looks
horrible in Colorado. If you would have
[49:54] a property like that, they would find
you right away." Well, you
[49:59] [clears throat] guys made them have a
bigger fence. They have
[50:06] a lot of times seven cars. The whole
front's full of cars
[50:11] » plus they have to park in the yard.
They have a trailer full of junk in the
[50:17] yard.
But what what kind of bothered me was
[50:24] [clears throat]
two or three of the cars sitting on
[50:28] outside of the sidewalk have license
plates that has has been expired for
[50:35] four months and
you know and have weeds up three feet
[50:43] around the cars. Now, [clears throat] we
complained over the years, but
[50:51] [clears throat]
um and they did clean up a little bit,
[50:55] but so so what do you do? You still go
past and check or do you have to have a
[51:01] complaint every time otherwise you won't
do anything about it? I mean, this is
[51:06] like two years now. that's been
looking pretty bad.
[51:11] And uh
so every time they do something
[51:16] different, we need to complain or
nothing will be done. And it it kind of
[51:21] bothered me
[51:26] the the cars that have license plates
that are over overdue.
[51:32] Um
[51:35] there's a couple of couple of people I
know really well. I have five kids. They
[51:41] moved to burn from Fort Wayne
[clears throat]
[51:46] and uh
[51:49] she went to the grocery store and came
home and drove in the driveway
[51:55] and the burn please came behind her and
said, "Hey, your sticker is over
[52:00] overdue."
And so
[52:06] they
it was in their driveway.
[52:11] They brought a record, move the car
away, and so you can have your car back
[52:17] when you get a sticker. [clears throat]
Well, there's people
[52:22] in my joining block. There's at least
three or four cars sent out there with
[52:29] expired stickers and nothing is
said about it.
[52:35] So what's the difference between 11
years ago and now? We just don't
[52:42] » back them up anymore or you know.
>> So Norville, I had I had a question I
[52:46] want to interject here so we can get
your question answered. So
[52:53] chief on a expired license plate if it's
mobile and a police person sees them
[53:02] county city state whatever they
[clears throat] would pull them over and
[53:06] ticket them for an expired play
driving with
[53:12] » operating
>> if something is parked we've had this
[53:17] discussion before and I I think I just
want to re refresh refresh my memory
[53:23] is it if it's parked,
you don't know whether they got the the
[53:29] registration renewed and it's inside and
they just haven't put the sticker on. If
[53:33] it's just sitting there, they're not
breaking the law from a state motor
[53:39] vehicle perspective. Right.
>> Correct.
[53:42] » But it's in a public
>> but what they but what they are they're
[53:47] in conflict with the nuisance ordinance.
>> Yeah. So, now that this property has
[53:52] come up, like we've done in other
properties, we're going to need to send
[53:57] them a junk vehicle notice that you have
to have current license plates on their
[54:05] cars. So, that'll that'll be the step
one of the steps we take out of this
[54:09] property here.
>> What I'm kind of thinking is
[54:14] if you make them get a license plate, of
course, you got to have insurance. Well,
[54:18] that's going to cost them a little
money. So, if it's sitting there and
[54:22] they're paying
that money for a license plate, not
[54:26] using the car, maybe they'll get rid of
it. Uh, that that's my thinking.
[54:32] » And and on this
>> But if you don't do anything about it,
[54:35] they'll just leave it sitting there
forever.
[54:38] And on this property, Norval would I'll
interject since we've had interactions
[54:44] with the property owner before when the
fence was going up. [clears throat] Um
[54:49] what we were told back then is that all
his vehicles are plated. He has
[54:55] registrations. Um so that's what was
said back then.
[54:59] » Well, they they were until March. Yeah.
Five months.
[55:03] » So I
>> as far as we know, excuse me, we have
[55:07] there only three people that live in
that house and most a lot of days
[55:11] there's seven to nine cars all around
that house and in your yard. Do they
[55:16] need that many vehicles and one doesn't
even drive. So
[55:21] » I don't think there's any law as far as
number of vehicles person.
[55:26] » I agree. I agree. still
>> but it does need to be plated if it's
[55:32] » make them keep up on their license
plates. They might get rid of a few
[55:37] » is my thoughts.
>> So So on the
[55:41] » and the the other thing that I remember
was that any kind of junk or anything
[55:47] needed to be within inside the fence.
Anything he collects needs to be inside
[55:52] the fence.
>> There's a trailer outside.
[55:57] There is, you know, they have a lot of
stuff.
[56:01] It's right on the property line. And I
was talking to
[56:04] » Does the owner actually live there?
>> One of the neighbors and they said,
[56:07] » "Yeah,
>> you know, we we live there 25 years and
[56:12] never have had a mouse problem. Now all
of a sudden we do." all that junk and
[56:18] now,
you know, they can't prove it, but
[56:23] there may be
>> and and and I'd say from the from the
[56:27] nuisance ordinance [snorts]
uh standpoint, one of the main purposes
[56:32] of it is for public safety, dealing with
rodents, dealing with that that's what
[56:38] the the collection of junk,
the the rodent issue is is a big part of
[56:45] why
>> one of the bracketers your intention.
[56:47] » Yeah.
>> I just see the town of Burn becoming a
[56:51] salvage place for these junk viewers.
Okay. Make you put a fence up. You still
[56:58] have the property is crap. You know, I
just don't understand why we can't do
[57:04] something about that. I mean, if it was
in other areas of burn like was
[57:09] mentioned, they wouldn't allow it.
So, I I I just don't like to see our
[57:15] town go downhill.
>> And and another thing, we got a small
[57:21] community and we drive around.
It's not Fort Lane. We're not talking
[57:27] about Slair
15 miles away. But
[57:33] line of vision. Well, it's line of
vision to everybody that lives here. All
[57:38] you got to do is walk go down the
street. You can look. Oh man, that's a
[57:42] junk place. That's a junk place. Now, we
were we were thinking about getting a
[57:49] smaller house
because she wouldn't have to go up
[57:54] steps. Well,
that first house we're talking about,
[57:59] there's a bunch of junk. Uh, now, am I
going to buy a house right beside a
[58:05] junkyard? Probably not.
So it makes it it
[58:10] » makes our
>> the line of vision
[58:13] » means
nothing and burn it because it's in a
[58:18] line of vision of everybody is what I'm
saying.
[58:22] » But can I just say like if you are going
to resell and you're a neighbor and it's
[58:26] in your line of vision then file the
complaint. I think this is a great
[58:30] committee and I think it's important
that we have it.
[58:33] » That's what we do right. That's our
thing. You guys are doing it right and I
[58:36] appreciate that. I think I think when we
do it for our own neighborhood and we
[58:40] take care of our own neighborhood, it's
not going to be a big problem. But so I
[58:43] think you guys are doing it right and I
think you're right to file a complaint.
[58:46] I don't think that everyone in the world
should. We don't burn is not an HOA.
[58:53] And so preferences versus safety. I
think that's why this board is
[58:57] important. We we've lived there since
1974 and I've never seen it as bad as
[59:03] what it is now.
>> Well, it's pervasive. I'm just gonna
[59:05] tell you it's pervasive in my opinion.
We live here back in the 80s and it was
[59:10] striking at least on the north part the
north side of Water Street in these
[59:16] areas. Um there there other places I
agree but
[59:22] it is definitely different. I'll just
say that if everybody's happy with that
[59:25] that's your that's what you guys have to
decide.
[59:28] » What do you mean on the north side of
Water Street? I'm just saying up on that
[59:31] area, the north side of water in that
neighborhood,
[59:34] » that there are a number of homes that
are that are are not kept up. That's
[59:39] what I'm saying.
>> So on on 466 Baltimore Street,
[59:45] » I think we've had some good discussion.
We've had input from neighbors. Um we've
[59:51] talked about some of the things that we
know probably need a a letter sent on.
[59:58] I think we definitely need to send a
junk vehicle letter which will address
[1:00:05] any vehicles that are not plated.
We need to send a junk rubbish letter
[1:00:15] which I think from the pictures you can
circle the trailer in the front yard and
[1:00:21] consider that. You can also consider the
stuff along the west side of the garage
[1:00:28] to be junk and rubbish. That's on the
next page with your picture.
[1:00:33] And we can send him a Weeden's Education
letter [clears throat]
[1:00:38] um with what's there by the garage and
back and address anything on the
[1:00:43] property with with that letter. So, I
think those three letters
[1:00:48] [clears throat] were appropriate to
>> I need to also These [laughter] people
[1:00:52] need to be fine. I mean, we've addressed
this problem before and they just
[1:00:57] continue and continue
>> these
[1:01:00] » to leave their house in just a
>> so to these instances for the whole
[1:01:06] city.
>> For these instances, this is the first
[1:01:10] time these items are in front of the
nuisance review board. So what we talked
[1:01:16] about earlier is a complaint form is
filed the first time they get a letter
[1:01:22] saying that this is what you need to
address. I think Dave brought it up at
[1:01:27] the last meeting. Due process was the
term that I believe Dave used. So the
[1:01:33] due process is they get time to address
their issue. If they don't have it
[1:01:38] addressed at the next meeting, they're
going to get a warning and eventually
[1:01:43] they're going to get fined.
So, but unfortunately that's the process
[1:01:48] flow that the nuisance review board has
discussed and has agreed to. So, that's
[1:01:54] that's that's the practice that we're
adhering to right now.
[1:01:57] » And one of these times, maybe we could
invite the owner join us here at the
[1:02:02] meeting.
>> He's down here.
[1:02:05] » I put the I put the time and date of our
next meeting at the top of the letter.
[1:02:11] The last time he was here, John, he
>> wanted you to go to coffee with him.
[1:02:15] [laughter]
>> That's right.
[1:02:17] » Is that right?
>> Is that right where Trace is?
[1:02:20] » That's right.
>> He's been here.
[1:02:22] » Yeah. In the evening.
>> Yeah.
[1:02:28] » And And if we get to the point after the
next meeting, if he's not addressed his
[1:02:33] things and for the next meeting we need
to do it at night, I'm okay with that.
[1:02:38] We talked about having these once in a
while in the evening. So I'm okay with
[1:02:42] that.
>> So what do we need?
[1:02:44] » So that's my motion.
>> I'll second it. Let's move on.
[1:02:49] » We got a vote.
>> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I.
[1:02:53] » I. Same sign.
[1:03:01] » Okay. The next property on the
list is 1335 Hendrick Street.
[1:03:10] Um,
[1:03:18] » please deliver
[1:03:33] » 133500.
[1:03:36] » It's the last page.
>> Last page.
[1:03:49] But [laughter] going forward, these are
in different
[1:03:50] » I think Kelly's Kelly's g
[1:03:56] » it is in the back. I'm just saying maybe
if we go through the properties in the
[1:04:01] order the pictures are since we just got
these point forms this morning it's
[1:04:07] easier just to follow the picture.
Let's go back to industry street.
[1:04:15] Who owns this residence? Anybody know?
>> Not sure. Android
[1:04:24] couple different people.
>> Anybody have a neighbor that we could
[1:04:30] that would help us focus where this is?
Anybody know who lives nearby?
[1:04:35] » Well, 1335 Henrik Street. If you want to
know where it is in town, you go down
[1:04:40] past the girls softball diamond. Keep
going [clears throat] south. Go past the
[1:04:45] road. It that culdeac all the way at the
end. It's about one or two houses back
[1:04:52] from the culdeac east in the east side.
[1:04:59] So this
we sent them a grass and weed, right?
[1:05:05] police delivered that and a copy of the
junk vehicle ordinance on July 16th, but
[1:05:13] we didn't talk about this property at
the last meeting. So that this this is
[1:05:17] the first time. So,
>> right,
[1:05:21] » they need to officially
get a junk vehicle letter because
[1:05:27] several of their vehicles are not
plated. You can see that.
[1:05:32] [clears throat]
And then there's tires and other things
[1:05:35] which I would consider junk rubbish.
So I think we need to send them
[1:05:42] » Well, we need to send them the letters.
>> We didn't we did already. Oh, this is
[1:05:46] new.
>> This is new. The police the police was
[1:05:50] taking I think a grass weed letter.
>> That's right.
[1:05:52] » But at the time they just handed them
say, "Hey, this this is also something."
[1:05:58] » But our board never considered it. This
is our first. So I think we need to send
[1:06:04] those two letters. That would be
>> that would be my motion.
[1:06:11] » The cross letter again too.
>> Does it need it?
[1:06:16] » There's weeds around the vehicles.
>> Yeah. Then send all three of them.
[1:06:20] » So a junk vehicle letter, junk and
leverage letter, and grass and
[1:06:26] » Yeah. Grass and weed letter.
Okay. [clears throat]
[1:06:29] » So that's that's my motion.
>> Is there a second?
[1:06:34] » Second.
>> All in favor signify by saying I
[1:06:39] » I post same sign.
[1:06:51] [laughter]
>> Okay. Um, I think we're at
[1:06:55] I'll go back to the pictures and we'll
try to find a complaint form later. 355
[1:07:00] Columbia Street.
[1:07:04] There was a complaint filed for a
trailer parked on the sidewalk with no
[1:07:09] [clears throat] license plate. So,
my guess is that's a police
[1:07:17] » junk vehicle.
>> A junk vehicle.
[1:07:21] I'll make that motion. I'll make that
motion. Send them a junk vehicle.
[1:07:25] » Okay, [clears throat]
>> I'll second it.
[1:07:26] » Okay, we have a motion and a second to
send 355 Columbia a junk vehicle letter.
[1:07:33] All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. Both same sign.
[1:07:42] Next address is 424 compromise which may
also be
[1:07:49] um 500
North Harrison Street.
[1:07:56] I think the complaint the complaint form
was listed as 500 block of Harrison.
[1:08:02] » Yeah.
>> But this is the actual address is on
[1:08:06] compromise their mailing addresses. And
I think this is the same thing. There's
[1:08:12] there's a there's an RV
>> and RV and the trailer
[1:08:16] » doesn't have license plates. So, I think
>> Well,
[1:08:19] » it has a license plate. It's expired.
>> It says the license plates are current.
[1:08:24] So,
>> I went by there last night. It's got a
[1:08:26] 2027 license plate on it
>> on the camper.
[1:08:30] » That would make this a non-issue.
>> Yeah.
[1:08:33] » Make a motion to move on.
>> The trailer. Are we doing anything with
[1:08:38] the trailer though? It did. It says
camper trailer on city property.
[1:08:47] » Okay.
>> And the trailer itself
[1:08:51] » is a trailer.
>> The trailer itself is a non-expiring
[1:08:57] plate too.
>> Okay.
[1:08:58] » Okay. So then Yeah. So then this is no
action needed.
[1:09:03] » Yeah. Unless it's unless next month it
hasn't approved. But you can see the you
[1:09:09] can see the plate
>> in the picture. It's just hard to see
[1:09:12] because it's on the left side under the
table
[1:09:15] in that square.
>> I was like,
[1:09:19] » that's what I would like.
>> Yeah, there is.
[1:09:21] » Oh, it's over there. Yeah, [laughter]
>> there.
[1:09:30] Okay. Um, [clears throat]
[1:09:33] next property is 505 North Broner
Street.
[1:09:39] So qu question on this one.
So it says in our package a towing
[1:09:46] warning letter and hedge letter were
both delivered on July 16th.
[1:09:50] So that must have come from some other
city entity. Where where did those come
[1:09:55] from? Like the water department or
[1:10:00] » so
that was Yeah.
[1:10:05] water utility department.
>> So is the
[1:10:09] » what the issue what the issue is is
they're parked over at the shut off
[1:10:13] valve is
>> and they were being put on the shut off
[1:10:17] list and they've been asked to move the
vehicle multiple times and they haven't
[1:10:22] [clears throat]
>> this this is this is that's not a
[1:10:26] nuisance ordinance issue, is it?
>> No, it's it's police
[1:10:31] » water utility
>> water. Yeah, it's not even ours.
[1:10:35] I mean, as far [laughter] as how they
get the car moved, how do they get the
[1:10:39] car? That would be up to the city on
that.
[1:10:43] » I think that's why we brought it to the
new center [clears throat] because they
[1:10:46] haven't communicated us communicated to
us that it's inoperable.
[1:10:50] » So, which would be a junk vehicle,
>> right? and the the the um hedge right
[1:10:56] there along the alleyway. When I go to
take the pictures, the mirror on the
[1:11:01] Explorer rubs the hedges cuz they're
encroaching on the alleyway.
[1:11:07] So that's why I had a picture of the
hedges.
[1:11:09] » I'm trying to think the hedge probably
in right away.
[1:11:12] » Yeah,
>> but I'm saying whose hedge is that to
[1:11:15] trim?
>> Probably the cities.
[1:11:17] » It might be ours if it's in our
rightway.
[1:11:22] » [clears throat]
>> I'd have to look at.
[1:11:25] » So you're you're saying they said they
can't move it because it's in an inco.
[1:11:31] » It might be plated, but it's they said
it's in a
[1:11:33] » Yeah.
>> So that's why they brought it.
[1:11:35] » Yeah.
>> And this has happened numerous times
[1:11:42] because I think the police have had to
go there a few times
[1:11:45] » just
>> to address this issue. Not to address
[1:11:48] the park card, but while they talked to
the homeowner that they just wanted me
[1:11:53] to be there, someone wanted to get out
of control.
[1:11:56] » Yeah,
[1:12:02] » I think I think you could give a junk
vehicle
[1:12:05] letter based on their statement that
[clears throat] it's inoperable.
[1:12:12] » The bottom right picture, is that a
motor home? back end of a motor home.
[1:12:19] » You know who that is?
[clears throat]
[1:12:24] Here we go again.
[1:12:28] » Back back back to the car. [laughter]
So, are they needing are they needing
[1:12:34] the water shut off or we just know that
it's there and we know that it can't be
[1:12:41] inhibited? So numerous incidents they've
been delinquent on their water bill
[1:12:46] which has caused us to have to because
we can't shut off the water because the
[1:12:50] vehicle is on top of it. So we've had to
send the water department along with a
[1:12:54] police officer to their home
saying we need payment.
[1:13:01] We have sent a letter telling them it
needs move.
[1:13:05] Um they've come in and paid. Um, so
we've dropped needing to tow the
[1:13:11] vehicle. Um, but it was addressed to us
last time we went that it was inoperable
[1:13:17] and they cannot move the vehicle and
it's been there. I think we had a
[1:13:20] picture from November of 25.
>> Yeah.
[1:13:26] » Might that be Larry Springer?
>> No, it would be the home to
[1:13:30] » the neighbor. Okay. I mean, we can send
them a junk vehicle
[1:13:38] notice from this board if we want to.
>> Yeah.
[1:13:41] » Because it's inoperable.
>> I'm I'll make that motion.
[1:13:45] » I'll second it.
>> Okay. We have a motion in a second to
[1:13:49] send a junk vehicle letter um to5
[1:13:56] North Brunner Street.
[1:14:00] All in favor signify by saying I
>> I post same sign.
[1:14:07] Um okay
506er
[1:14:12] street
complaint was filed for rubbish and junk
[1:14:17] in the yard and trailer. This is the
first
[1:14:20] uh complaint form we've received on this
property.
[1:14:29] And I I might add, if you drove
[clears throat] by, you would see the
[1:14:32] grass around the home would be probably
8, 10, 12 inches high, too.
[1:14:40] » It's recently mowed.
>> Grass was mowed [clears throat] last
[1:14:43] night.
>> I drove by.
[1:14:46] » Okay.
>> It's been wet. [laughter]
[1:14:50] Okay.
>> I guess my question on the rubbish and
[1:14:56] junk, what are we what are we
considering junk and rubbish?
[1:15:02] I know the trailer is a trailer that I
believe the the renter it's a renter in
[1:15:11] a landowner is my understanding on this
property uses that for pressure washing
[1:15:18] jobs when he gets them. [clears throat]
Um there's a car and a trailer
[1:15:25] [clears throat] but
trailers aren't rubbish.
[1:15:45] Sounds like a business. Is it zoned for
a business
[1:15:49] or is this a a residential
plan?
[1:15:57] I'll let Shannon [clears throat] and
Dave answer that. I think I know the
[1:16:01] answer.
[1:16:05] » It's a It's a rented property.
>> Um I don't have the zoning map in front
[1:16:09] of me, but I would say it's residential.
>> Me, too.
[1:16:13] » I mean, I'm sure it's either an R1 or an
R2. Just
[1:16:17] » pretend this property is right beside
your doororker
[1:16:22] to the south, you know.
>> [snorts]
[1:16:37] » Is that a washing machine or what is
that? What is that [laughter]
[1:16:40] » on the on the trailer that it's a
pressure washing?
[1:16:44] » No, you see in the dump
>> right there. What's that?
[1:16:47] » Oh,
>> that's empty now. Is that correct?
[1:16:51] » Yeah, that's empty now.
>> That's empty now. that trailer is.
[1:16:55] » Yeah, I went by last night just to look
at everything that Kelly went so I could
[1:16:59] look and that's 8:15 last night and it's
empty.
[1:17:04] » I don't know if he got rid of stuff. I
don't know. Could be in the garage. You
[1:17:10] know,
>> the the vehicles north of the garage
[1:17:13] door. Is that something we
can deal with or
[1:17:20] » the vehicle on the trailer?
That's up the
[1:17:24] » Is that PL?
>> The one that's on the trailer. I have no
[1:17:28] idea.
>> Yeah, that's a car. You know, the
[1:17:30] trailer went down the alley.
>> I mean, I I think that would be the
[1:17:35] question. So, that's whether it's on a
trailer or on the ground that's not
[1:17:39] plated. That's an issue.
I mean, like we've done on the others,
[1:17:44] if if if we want to make a a motion to
send a junk vehicle notice based on that
[1:17:51] card,
we can, but maybe the chief can check it
[1:17:57] out before we actually mail the letter
and make sure that
[1:18:00] » he can make a motion that if it's not if
he checks it out and it's not plated to
[1:18:04] send a jump vehicle.
I'll I'll make a motion that we send a
[1:18:08] jump vehicle letter to the uh property
owner and renter at 506 Sprunger Street
[1:18:16] uh based on Chief Taylor's assessment of
the license plate situation. I'll second
[1:18:22] that.
>> Okay, we have a motion and a second. All
[1:18:26] in favor signify by saying I oppose.
Same sign.
[1:18:32] [laughter]
[1:18:36] Okay, next property is a complaint on
365 North Jefferson filed for a truck
[1:18:43] parked along
Jefferson's three without dated 2025
[1:18:47] plates.
>> So that truck's no longer there.
[1:18:50] » Okay.
[1:18:55] I [laughter]
looked last night and this morning it
[1:18:58] was not there after pictures were taken.
So I guess in
[1:19:06] in in this situation
>> he's operating normal. He could be
[1:19:09] caught.
[laughter]
[1:19:13] » You have to speak up. Yeah.
[laughter]
[1:19:16] » He's not parked. He's on the run.
[1:19:21] » So on so on this since we're not going
to meet since we're not going to meet
[1:19:26] for a month,
what can we do if the vehicle
[1:19:32] coming back.
>> I believe Lieutenant Amstrads has talked
[1:19:36] to this gentleman and told him we can't
park it on the street with the expired
[1:19:41] license plate.
>> So, he took care of it.
[1:19:45] » So, you think it's been addressed?
>> Yeah. Okay. So, then no action at this
[1:19:50] time. If it comes up again at the next
meeting, so be it.
[1:20:00] » Okay. Um, [laughter]
next one is 766 North Jefferson Street.
[1:20:07] Believe this is the first time a
complaint has been filed on this
[1:20:11] property for weeds and junk vehicles.
>> First time currently it's been once
[1:20:18] before quite a while ago.
[1:20:22] » He mowed last night.
>> He mowed last night.
[1:20:27] Again, some of these people haven't been
able to mow because of how wet
[1:20:31] everything's been. Um, but
>> and the plates are current.
[1:20:36] » Plates are current. Okay.
>> I do [clears throat] see tires.
[1:20:39] » Yeah, I was
>> with the whole West Nile. I mean, I feel
[1:20:43] like that should definitely be
addressed.
[1:20:45] » That can be that can definitely
>> You want to make a motion, Cal, that we
[1:20:50] send him a junk rubbish letter?
>> Unless you want to. [laughter]
[1:20:53] [gasps] I'll make a motion to send a
junk rubbish letter.
[1:20:58] » And you have a second.
>> Thank you.
[1:21:02] » Okay, we have a motion and a second
recording so [laughter] you can use it
[1:21:06] when you need it.
>> We have a motion and a second to send
[1:21:09] the junk rubbish letter to 766
Jefferson. All in favor signify by
[1:21:14] saying I.
>> I same sign.
[1:21:21] Um, next one is 806
North Street.
[1:21:31] » This vehicle doesn't have a plate. Um,
and there are
[1:21:35] um
I guess the complaint is only about the
[1:21:39] car and the fact that it's facing the
wrong direction.
[1:21:44] So,
Kim, is this something you can check out
[1:21:48] or
>> Yeah.
[1:21:49] » Okay.
[1:21:54] » I guess my question is,
>> shouldn't we still send a junk vehicle
[1:22:01] letter? It'll be good. [laughter]
>> I'll make a motion that we send a junk
[1:22:06] vehicle letter to 806 North Jefferson
Street uh along with the photograph of
[1:22:12] this silver or gray car. [clears throat]
>> Is that the correct address of where
[1:22:18] this car belongs to? Because it's
>> it's sitting in front of the bear lot.
[1:22:24] » It is sitting in front of lot. So, it
wasn't
[1:22:26] » I believe there is.
>> Okay.
[1:22:29] » We'll let you know.
[1:22:33] » [laughter]
[1:22:36] » Okay, that's that's that's my motion.
>> Is there a second?
[1:22:42] » Yes.
>> All in favor signify by A9. I
[1:22:46] » That was a motion by Ron and a second by
Tim,
[1:22:50] I believe.
>> I do have a question though. Would that
[1:22:54] be parked in the wrong direction?
Wouldn't that be illegal
[1:22:59] in a warrant a a ticket?
Cuz this [clears throat] isn't the only
[1:23:04] vehicle that is parked
>> the wrong way.
[1:23:06] » No, we've given out warnings for that
before. And typically people don't park
[1:23:11] the right way.
>> Okay.
[1:23:23] » Okay. Um Next one is um 517
East Main Street. [clears throat]
[1:23:33] Have you heard anything from
>> I'm not in contact with him.
[1:23:40] » Who lives at that residence?
>> This This is the property on East Main
[1:23:46] Street we've been tracking for a while.
They're the ones with the building
[1:23:49] permit right across from AMS
Construction. Oh,
[1:23:52] » they were gonna
>> they were supposed to build a garage.
[1:23:56] » They came to us a while back with an
inter with an interpreter and they were
[1:24:00] going to have a garage built by what?
October.
[1:24:04] » Yep.
>> So on on this property, my question,
[1:24:09] Shane, you haven't heard from them.
So
[1:24:14] would would you like to reach out to
them or do we want to request them to
[1:24:18] come to the September meeting for a tax?
>> Have a report.
[1:24:22] We sent a letter in June,
>> right,
[1:24:25] » that just reminds them of what they're
to do,
[1:24:28] » right?
>> And if you look at the east end of the
[1:24:32] home, you'll find they they're
continually adding items on the east
[1:24:37] side of their home.
So, I have I have a feeling that I'm not
[1:24:43] sure the garage can handle everything
that is on that property, but any we'll
[1:24:48] take it from there. And so my opinion is
is that they would have it built by the
[1:24:55] fall. We're not going to meet again
until September, middle of September.
[1:25:01] I mean, if they're not started by then,
it's not going to be done in fall. So I
[1:25:09] I think we need to send them a letter
and ask them to come to the September
[1:25:12] meeting and give us an update.
>> That's my motion.
[1:25:17] » You got it.
>> Second. Yeah,
[1:25:19] » Dwight. This is Dwight.
>> Dwight got a second on this motion by
[1:25:23] going along.
>> Motion by Ron and a second by Dwight.
[1:25:27] All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. Same assignment.
[1:25:34] Okay. Next one is 1046 Mil Pond Road.
Complaint was filed by
[1:25:41] uh in reference to a trailer parked in
the [clears throat] driveway.
[1:25:47] um
too close to a fire hider
[1:25:52] which I believe was measured
and
[1:25:57] is far enough away according to state
guidelines.
[1:26:00] » Yeah. The law is 15 ft, isn't it? Go
ahead, Greg.
[1:26:04] » Yeah. Yeah.
>> Okay. At at the time of the complaint,
[1:26:09] the trailer was about 18 [snorts] in
from the fire hydrant. So now he's Yeah.
[1:26:15] So, it was parked it was parked on the
south side of the driveway then.
[1:26:19] » Okay.
>> And and we haven't been able to
[1:26:23] determine whether
>> the fire hydrant
[1:26:27] um that ruling pertains to
if you're parked on the street, blocking
[1:26:33] the fire hydrant or or what. There's no
definitive
[1:26:38] law that says [clears throat]
it's parked on the street or in a
[1:26:42] driveway, but they they've moved it and
it's not
[1:26:47] » I would think for future reference
purposes,
[1:26:52] it would be good to know. The way I
understand it, looking at this picture,
[1:26:56] you can't park on the street in front of
the fire hydrant,
[1:27:01] » right? the driveway. I don't think the
driveway has anything to do with the
[1:27:04] fire act.
I mean, I'm not chief of the fire
[1:27:09] department, but that's the way I would
think that the state ordinance is set up
[1:27:15] curbage because the fire department can
pull up and attach even if the driveway
[1:27:21] is completely full. But again, I'm just
speculating. Didn't the complaint form
[1:27:27] also mention
uh line of sight backing out of his
[1:27:33] driveway? He can't see the street.
>> I went down and pulled into his
[1:27:37] driveway.
>> Yeah.
[1:27:38] » And I could see down the old Colonial
Drive.
[1:27:42] So
he has plenty of sight. And And I maybe
[1:27:48] that was when [clears throat] it was
closer on the other side.
[1:27:52] » It was Tim. Okay. I think when
>> I can see that
[1:27:56] » when the moved it now, you can see
>> when the RV would have been on the left
[1:28:01] side of the driveway, [cough]
that would have been more of an issue.
[1:28:04] And that's that's where it was at one
point. So, I think the neighbor has
[1:28:09] listened to their neighbor
>> and has tried to satisfy the on the
[1:28:14] north side of the driveway.
>> So, there's no action in this forward on
[1:28:21] this move. Okay. Then we have um I think
the last one is
[1:28:28] 166 Brian Street.
I don't know if we have a an form for
[1:28:34] that, but
we had a neighbor that came into lobby
[1:28:39] and
this property was still kind of a
[1:28:42] monitor property is kind of keep an eye
on it. the last time it was discussed
[1:28:46] about the camper. He still is thinking
that there's someone living in that
[1:28:52] camper and he's also concerned with um I
believe it's the blue vehicle. When I
[1:28:58] went and took pictures yesterday, it was
parked correctly, but at times it's
[1:29:02] facing to the south on the wrong side of
the street and he was concerned about
[1:29:05] that as well.
[1:29:09] and the weeds and stuff around the fence
area.
[1:29:14] [laughter]
The camper does have the bump out on it
[1:29:19] out still, but you can't tell if there's
you couldn't tell if there's lights on
[1:29:24] in the evening or not. And just a
background, this camper was communicated
[1:29:30] to us that someone was living in it at
one time and then when we had reached
[1:29:34] out again, they had said that they were
not living in it anymore but remodeling
[1:29:39] it and that's why the bump was out. So I
don't know, maybe the police can monitor
[1:29:47] activity to I don't know. I don't know
what we do to
[1:29:53] see if living in it. window.
Of course, it's so
[1:30:03] [clears throat] on the camper.
>> We don't have any clue whether it's
[1:30:08] plated, right? So, I mean, we could send
a jump vehicle notice and say,
[1:30:16] "Show your registration." It it needs to
have a valid license plate. Even if it's
[1:30:22] parked on priv private property, it
needs to be plated,
[1:30:27] » right?
>> Yeah.
[1:30:29] » So, as a starting point, I would like to
at least send them a junk vehicle notice
[1:30:37] saying that it needs to be plated
>> or proof of. Yeah.
[1:30:42] » Proof of registration.
>> Yeah.
[1:30:45] So, that's that's my motion.
There a second. [clears throat]
[1:30:51] » I'll second that.
>> Okay.
[1:30:54] All in favor signify by saying I.
>> The same sign.
[1:31:04] Okay. The next item on the agenda
is a request to change the October
[1:31:11] meeting date from October 21st to
October 14th.
[1:31:17] due to some conflicts
during the regular scheduled week.
[1:31:24] So, we're moving it up a week um in
October
[1:31:28] from October 21 to October 14th.
So, with with that in mind, if we change
[1:31:37] that date, then the letters all need to
say that the properties need to be
[1:31:41] resolved before that date
>> be the 13th
[1:31:45] » next month.
Oh yeah, I'm sorry. Never mind. We're
[1:31:48] talking further out. [clears throat]
Yeah, we got September to get [laughter]
[1:31:53] ahead of myself.
[1:31:59] » I'll make that motion.
>> Okay. Is there a second?
[1:32:03] » I'll second it.
>> Okay. We have a motion and a second to
[1:32:06] move October's meeting from October 21st
to October 14th. All in favor signify by
[1:32:12] saying I.
>> I. Oppose. same sign
[1:32:16] » on that October meeting. I mean, we can
decide at the next [clears throat]
[1:32:21] meeting, but that might be one we might
end up needing to do at night
[1:32:28] for a few of these individuals. So, just
keep that in mind. I would not be
[1:32:34] opposed to it.
>> Okay.
[1:32:39] » Other issues?
>> Yes.
[1:32:44] 805 West Main Street.
The pickup truck is parked on the
[1:32:49] sidewalk every day.
Every
[1:32:54] corner of Portland and Yeah. corner of
Portland and Maine,
[1:32:58] » but not all day. Sometimes
>> not all day. But
[1:33:02] » I I know what you're saying, Dwight.
I've seen it there on the sidewalk, but
[1:33:05] I've also seen it in the driveway.
>> There's not sidewalk
[1:33:09] » over a lot of what parking.
>> There is not a sidewalk. It's over some
[1:33:14] of what he's parking. Literally not a
sidewalk.
[1:33:18] » Well, that's not his fault.
>> He started parking there. His kids were
[1:33:22] falling.
>> Yeah, there is a The concrete is
[1:33:25] » I think it's
>> it's up.
[1:33:28] » He didn't like dump mud. I mean, he
>> Yeah, I think there's sidewalk there.
[1:33:32] It's just been covered for years. So, I
say I've lived in that neighbor my whole
[1:33:36] life and I don't and that was my aunt's
house. So, I was there all the time and
[1:33:42] when I was a kid that was a mud spot.
So, I'm not saying there's not sidewalk,
[1:33:48] but I know that where he's parking
there's not visible sidewalk that's even
[1:33:51] being utilized. So, I'm not sure if it
like there are no kids trying to ride
[1:33:56] their bikes over there or walk over
there or
[1:33:59] » Well, they can't because of the trim.
>> They can't because there's no sidewalk
[1:34:02] » and just for kicks. Just for kids, I
grew up in that house.
[1:34:07] » That's That's amazing. You both have
good memories there.
[1:34:09] » Yeah, I have great memories there. And I
was there till I was a senior in high
[1:34:13] school, which was years ago. But there
is a sidewalk there.
[1:34:18] » Well, and I think on that from a decorum
perspective, we want to discuss it.
[1:34:23] » We should have a complaint form. We
should officially discuss it at the next
[1:34:27] meeting.
>> I turned one in with a picture.
[1:34:31] » I had a picture of the truck.
>> Yeah. So it'll be on the next agenda.
[1:34:36] » No, it's been on a few months ago.
>> Oh, we
[1:34:40] » Yeah,
>> we discussed it. We have a complaint
[1:34:42] form on the sidewalk issue or the
trucking park is
[1:34:45] » we want to resurrect that complaint
form, then resurrect that complaint form
[1:34:50] and we'll take pictures and we'll
discuss it at the next meeting and
[1:34:54] research, you know, what Trish is saying
and what what options there are.
[1:35:00] [clears throat]
But for this board to take action, I
[1:35:04] wasn't prepared. So, yeah, I can't talk
speak to it
[1:35:08] » like I could the other properties.
>> And another item I have, I got a call
[1:35:13] Monday night
9:30 from a very prominent businessman
[1:35:20] in burn. He said, "What's being done
with the antique mall?"
[1:35:26] He said, "It is deplorable."
Excuse
[1:35:31] me.
>> So, last meeting
[1:35:34] somebody was going to contact the lady
that owns it in Bluffton.
[1:35:40] Did that contact been made? Has that
been made?
[1:35:43] » I haven't called her, but I have I have
her number. I can call her.
[1:35:48] » Yeah. Someone told me that she was
selling all of the or get trying to get
[1:35:52] rid of all the things that were inside
and she was selling it and she was going
[1:35:58] to sell it. So I don't know.
>> I'll call her report back at the next
[1:36:02] meeting.
>> Great.
[1:36:05] » Yeah. A number of people have mentioned
to me
[1:36:09] the condition of that
building.
[1:36:14] » I think it's a beautiful historical
building. I wish there would be a
[1:36:18] complaint form.
>> Refurbish it.
[1:36:21] » Buy it and refurbish it and make it a
>> museum.
[1:36:26] » Well, a complaint form on that building.
Everybody in Burnham will send it in.
[1:36:31] » That's the main section. [clears throat]
Yeah.
[1:36:33] » Yeah. We'd be interested in knowing her
thoughts on the future of that building.
[1:36:40] » Well, [clears throat] the mayor can
reach out. I I still think back to what
[1:36:46] I stated at the beginning of the
meeting. Our review board's job at these
[1:36:52] meetings are to review complaint forms
that have been submitted and do what we
[1:36:57] did on many cases this morning, come up
with a action plan of what we're going
[1:37:02] to do. So that's what this review
board's job is. So
[1:37:07] » do we really need a complaint form on
that? I
[1:37:10] » that's the process.
>> It is. I mean, what else have we talked
[1:37:15] about today that there wasn't a
complaint form?
[1:37:20] That's that's the official way and it's
not I'm not trying to be difficult but
[1:37:26] that's the right way to do it.
>> The mayor will report next month.
[1:37:31] » You can report but then what are we
going to do?
[1:37:33] » Well, have to see what what the plans
are.
[1:37:36] » Are we are we waiting for a motion to
retire this meeting?
[1:37:42] » [laughter]
>> I haven't asked for one, John, because
[1:37:46] we still have another item on the
agenda.
[1:37:50] » Board comments.
>> It says board comments. If you look at
[1:37:53] your paper,
>> it's not line.
[1:37:57] » Are there any board comments?
>> You can you can file a complaint with
[1:38:01] the city or there's forms in the
entryway. I'll get you one if you would
[1:38:04] like one. line of sight.
>> What I'm saying is
[1:38:09] » that line of sight thing that
>> that has not
[1:38:12] » somebody was talking about
>> that has not been
[1:38:15] » it's a line of sight to everybody that
drives fast. So that
[1:38:20] » to me that's a very silly
thing to
[1:38:25] » Are there any board comments
>> in writing? Okay.
[1:38:29] » Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion.
Okay. The one board comment I did want
[1:38:35] to make and I think everything's
everyone's aware of it. The updates to
[1:38:40] the nuisance ordinance that have been
discussed at city council were discussed
[1:38:45] on August the 10th. Several of you were
in attendance. Uh those that ordinance
[1:38:52] was introduced at that meeting and it
will be discussed again [clears throat]
[1:38:56] on Monday night the 24th. Um and with
potential action being taken to adopt
[1:39:04] it. So just be aware of that and
nuisance for board members. We've shared
[1:39:10] the whole ordinance with everybody as we
said we would. So once it was
[1:39:15] introduced.
>> Yeah. Once it was introduced. So that
[1:39:18] was the one board comment I wanted to
make.
[1:39:22] » Okay. I entertain a motion to adjourn.
>> You have it.
[1:39:26] » Is [laughter] there a second? Second.
>> All in favor signify by saying I. I.
[1:39:32] » Oppos same sign.