1 00:00:03,090 --> 00:00:32,250 This is for us, we continue as normal regardless of what is happening. So we're going to be here for the next couple of hours to really go through our budgets and really focus on our budget itself and each of them within each of the different departments. So before we begin, what I'd like to do is give a couple of housekeeping rules so that both council and residents are aware of 2 00:00:33,710 --> 00:00:36,730 how today's going to work and then I'm going to turn it over to town manager 3 00:00:36,730 --> 00:00:42,050 Harubin, who will give you more specifics about how today specifically will work. 4 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:49,010 So because we're on this type of setting, we are having a meeting going on. 5 00:00:49,050 --> 00:00:54,350 So for the council, when it is time or when you have a question or you'd like to 6 00:00:54,350 --> 00:00:59,590 speak, please raise your hands so that you can be recognized so that I ever want to be able to hear you 7 00:00:59,590 --> 00:01:06,570 because it does, it may get a little difficult to hear everyone if we're 8 00:01:06,570 --> 00:01:11,830 consistently talking. The way we're not speaking please put yourself under 9 00:01:11,830 --> 00:01:16,970 mute to prevent any feedback or noise from speaking or from happening. If you 10 00:01:16,970 --> 00:01:22,150 have to step away please turn that video off and then after each presentation I've 11 00:01:22,150 --> 00:01:26,470 opened the floor to discussion but I will go in the following order so I'll 12 00:01:26,470 --> 00:01:30,010 with Mayor Pro Tem, Bob Niples, and I'll go to Councilmember Sweet. 13 00:01:30,670 --> 00:01:35,470 Councilmember Dewey, Councilmember Osmond, and then I will end the discussion, and then 14 00:01:35,470 --> 00:01:39,110 we'll have one final discussion before we move on to the next department. 15 00:01:40,490 --> 00:01:46,890 With our residents, we will have the phone lines open, but they will only be open after 16 00:01:46,890 --> 00:01:53,390 each department has presented their actual report itself. 17 00:01:53,390 --> 00:02:02,210 We are asking that you focus your question to the presentation that's given at hand and please 18 00:02:02,210 --> 00:02:07,570 never possible. Please don't ask questions that were already previously asked. We're really 19 00:02:07,570 --> 00:02:14,210 trying to streamline that. We do have another way of doing, of accepting comments as well, 20 00:02:14,570 --> 00:02:21,250 and questions and that is through email. So Councilmember Dewey is graciously accepted to monitor 21 00:02:21,250 --> 00:02:28,210 or email, so if you have any emails, any questions or comments, we would highly encourage that 22 00:02:28,210 --> 00:02:42,550 you email her at a-do-e-w-w-y at burrwoodheightsnd.gov, again it's a-d-e-w-e-y at burrwoodheightsnd.gov. 23 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:48,190 And that will help us even with accuracy as well, so if you have any call in, I will do my best 24 00:02:48,190 --> 00:02:54,670 to repeat your question in hopes that I would get it accurate as an 25 00:02:54,670 --> 00:02:59,690 accurate as possible. The email is always better for us as well. We will take 26 00:02:59,690 --> 00:03:04,130 two ten minute breaks throughout this time. One, we will take it after the end 27 00:03:04,130 --> 00:03:12,850 of section two and then one at the end of section three. So the section two part 28 00:03:12,850 --> 00:03:17,550 is after the police department and then the section three is after the budget 29 00:03:17,550 --> 00:03:24,950 summary accepts. From there, after that second grade, when we start section 4, we will not be 30 00:03:24,950 --> 00:03:30,150 accepting any additional phone call. We will not be reading any additional emails, but the record 31 00:03:30,150 --> 00:03:38,470 will remain open until May 13th until it is loaded on by the council. Again, we still encourage you to 32 00:03:38,470 --> 00:03:44,470 email your comments and questions of councilmember Dewey. Of course, always email any of the council 33 00:03:44,470 --> 00:03:48,890 some members, but Councilmember Dewey is going to be really focused on all of those events. 34 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:57,470 Council, open the floor. Are there any additional comments, questions, anything that I may have 35 00:03:57,470 --> 00:03:59,330 missed before we begin or discussion? 36 00:04:04,690 --> 00:04:07,830 Here and then, what I am going to do is now pass it on to 37 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:14,150 town manager Rodbent who will give you a summary of how today will actually work. 38 00:04:16,970 --> 00:04:17,490 I'll 39 00:04:17,490 --> 00:04:18,550 Good morning, thank you, Mr. Mayer. 40 00:04:19,030 --> 00:04:21,050 I'm just a councilor. 41 00:04:21,270 --> 00:04:23,590 Cory, I'd like to talk a little bit about the budget. 42 00:04:23,770 --> 00:04:27,290 I just wanted to talk a little bit about the town's response 43 00:04:27,290 --> 00:04:28,990 and the contingencies that we've taken 44 00:04:28,990 --> 00:04:30,390 related to the coronavirus. 45 00:04:32,270 --> 00:04:35,270 Know that to a person, every one of our staff 46 00:04:35,780 --> 00:04:39,470 has been really working hard and vigilant and staying 47 00:04:39,470 --> 00:04:44,390 positive and really doing a fantastic job of just keeping 48 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:47,250 We've been telling operations going as best we can. 49 00:04:48,430 --> 00:04:52,970 It is a new normal and we've had to learn some new tricks, including Zoom. 50 00:04:54,330 --> 00:04:58,750 But our town offices, we have switched to, 51 00:04:59,390 --> 00:05:02,610 everything that can be done electronically should be done electronically. 52 00:05:03,370 --> 00:05:04,090 We're not closed. 53 00:05:04,850 --> 00:05:05,930 We're still taking calls. 54 00:05:06,630 --> 00:05:10,730 We've only had a couple people come in this week and I appreciate that. 55 00:05:11,290 --> 00:05:15,670 Same thing for a quiz station. If anything can be done electronically, we'd appreciate 56 00:05:15,670 --> 00:05:25,170 that you do that. I closed our playground. It was with Eddie Hart was not something I 57 00:05:25,170 --> 00:05:30,910 wanted to keep it open as much as I could. Lake Artemisia and the park and fanning parks 58 00:05:30,910 --> 00:05:39,990 are still open. But really be careful. This thing is not planned and you know, like you go 59 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:41,550 If you're going to do a car, if you're going to be out in public, 60 00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:45,710 seriously be 16 cars at least and wash your hands and be really careful. 61 00:05:46,650 --> 00:05:47,910 The senior center is closed. 62 00:05:49,050 --> 00:05:51,030 I miss seeing the seniors every day. 63 00:05:51,170 --> 00:05:51,970 Hope you guys are okay. 64 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:56,450 The police have been doing a great job of checking in with everybody. 65 00:05:57,230 --> 00:05:59,890 And if you've got some concerns, call. 66 00:06:01,370 --> 00:06:04,270 We really want to make sure that we know how you're doing because 67 00:06:05,410 --> 00:06:07,330 when we're really worried about anybody. 68 00:06:07,330 --> 00:06:11,170 But cash collection is continuing as normal. 69 00:06:12,370 --> 00:06:14,670 We take an opportunity while everything's 70 00:06:14,670 --> 00:06:18,630 been closed and making a little nicer out here. 71 00:06:19,690 --> 00:06:20,990 The seniors are going to like what they see, 72 00:06:21,170 --> 00:06:24,630 but we did paint those poles that they could play about. 73 00:06:25,810 --> 00:06:28,090 So the paint has been done, and the carvings 74 00:06:28,090 --> 00:06:29,510 have been done, but the senior center 75 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:31,390 and over here in town hall. 76 00:06:32,570 --> 00:06:35,850 So we're doing the best we can to keep things rolling 77 00:06:35,850 --> 00:06:46,190 and just, you know, give everybody, give yourself some space and be patient. We're gonna get through this, the best you can. 78 00:06:47,630 --> 00:06:54,650 And thank you to all the staff because, you know, we've got some folks that have been taking turns, you know, 79 00:06:54,790 --> 00:07:03,370 working in the office to sort of live in exposure, but, you know, we couldn't have had this virus business happen at a worse time 80 00:07:04,150 --> 00:07:08,310 because when it comes to the budget, everybody works double-time. 81 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:10,810 It works on the budget to get things done. 82 00:07:11,750 --> 00:07:13,470 And one of the things I wanted to point out 83 00:07:13,470 --> 00:07:16,790 is to start digging deep into the budget and recitations. 84 00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:20,430 And I'll talk more about it at the end when I talk about summary. 85 00:07:21,690 --> 00:07:27,090 But, you know, we look at this not only as a physical challenge 86 00:07:27,090 --> 00:07:31,250 for all of us, but we're also looking at it as a financial challenge. 87 00:07:31,250 --> 00:07:35,770 and some of the decisions that we made going into this, 88 00:07:36,970 --> 00:07:39,370 I don't know, Michelle, how many verses we went through, 89 00:07:39,690 --> 00:07:41,850 but Michelle and I, they're back for us, 90 00:07:41,950 --> 00:07:44,290 they'll eight non-cocked nine per several days 91 00:07:44,290 --> 00:07:48,330 working all day long and looking to do the best we can 92 00:07:48,970 --> 00:07:51,650 to preserve the services that everybody enjoys here, 93 00:07:52,890 --> 00:07:57,910 not raise the tax rate and seriously look at what's 94 00:07:57,910 --> 00:08:05,390 essential and what we can put off a little bit so we're sure that we're going to have a tax money coming in and again 95 00:08:05,390 --> 00:08:12,610 I'll talk a little bit more about the end at that at the end and please hold your questions related to that until after that 96 00:08:12,610 --> 00:08:22,190 presentation but bear in mind that the budget that I put together is a imposed budget and it is our 97 00:08:22,190 --> 00:08:29,870 recommendation to the council. The council has the ability once the budget is 98 00:08:29,870 --> 00:08:38,510 introduced to make changes. So the budget process in general, the budget is in 99 00:08:38,510 --> 00:08:44,010 ordinance. So just like any ordinance, it gets introduced and it has public 100 00:08:44,010 --> 00:08:49,830 hearings. And along the way, the council has the authority to make a motion to 101 00:08:49,830 --> 00:08:56,630 change the ordinance. That's how it works. Our fiscal year starts in July. Our biggest payments 102 00:08:56,630 --> 00:09:03,510 start coming in in October, right? In my mentioned, in October. So we always take into account 103 00:09:03,510 --> 00:09:08,590 that we've got a few wants that we need to flow on reserves because of the things that 104 00:09:08,590 --> 00:09:15,530 we want to go to come in. So that's keeping that in mind. All right, as far as today goes, I'm 105 00:09:17,250 --> 00:09:22,350 I'm going to go through the presentation for the administration and the one-third public 106 00:09:22,350 --> 00:09:29,310 works and Director Hollis and the folks of the face department, Chief Ansley, I can 107 00:09:29,310 --> 00:09:31,610 attend on her and talk about the face department. 108 00:09:32,410 --> 00:09:37,610 Then at the end of the week we'll do a summary so that we can sort of show you all the format 109 00:09:37,610 --> 00:09:39,750 that we've been playing with to get where we are. 110 00:09:40,950 --> 00:09:49,310 So, with that, I'm ready for the presentation for the PowerPoint for the administration. 111 00:09:52,950 --> 00:09:53,410 Mr. Mayor. 112 00:09:53,950 --> 00:09:54,170 All right. 113 00:09:54,630 --> 00:09:54,970 All right. 114 00:09:55,230 --> 00:09:55,610 Thank you. 115 00:09:55,850 --> 00:09:58,010 I have a question. 116 00:09:59,390 --> 00:09:59,990 Thank you. 117 00:10:00,050 --> 00:10:00,830 I'm sorry to interrupt. 118 00:10:01,210 --> 00:10:03,350 I believe we are having an audio issue. 119 00:10:03,530 --> 00:10:05,990 I've got an email that there is no audio input. 120 00:10:06,130 --> 00:10:06,350 Yeah. 121 00:10:06,430 --> 00:10:08,210 I'm trying to fix it. 122 00:10:08,490 --> 00:10:10,630 I just wanted to know if we could pause for a second. 123 00:10:11,070 --> 00:10:11,490 right. 124 00:10:14,070 --> 00:10:15,930 Okay I'm pausing 125 00:10:20,510 --> 00:10:25,410 and council 126 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:33,000 member do I have 127 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,680 Paula guys where did you have your hand up was it was it in the camera or was 128 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:43,480 it on the chat so I don't I think it's about the little blue thing pops up I just 129 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,600 wanted you to know we're gonna look for it the only thing I wanted to remind 130 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,700 folks is when we say we're not reading emails it doesn't mean like we're 131 00:10:49,700 --> 00:10:51,140 We're literally not going to read them all later. 132 00:10:51,340 --> 00:10:53,020 We're just not going to put them in the meeting. 133 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,140 It's no big deal. 134 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,940 But yeah, I was, I just did the Ray's hand feature show. 135 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,120 There shouldn't be a blue square on my picture. 136 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,120 And then also next to my name in the chat. 137 00:11:03,020 --> 00:11:06,680 I'll leave it up right now so you can see what I look like. 138 00:11:14,170 --> 00:11:15,010 Yeah, I don't. 139 00:11:17,430 --> 00:11:17,830 Yeah. 140 00:11:18,390 --> 00:11:18,790 What 141 00:11:28,580 --> 00:11:30,460 we saw in 142 00:11:34,980 --> 00:11:35,880 2017. 143 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:36,620 For what? 144 00:11:37,220 --> 00:11:40,380 It looks like there was another tab that had, OK. 145 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:42,720 So, Amanda, 146 00:11:44,850 --> 00:11:50,770 you said there was an issue with not being able to hear. 147 00:11:51,310 --> 00:11:59,930 I turned up in volume, are you at all able to listen in over streaming or is it just somebody 148 00:11:59,930 --> 00:12:01,090 who called you to say that? 149 00:12:01,430 --> 00:12:07,690 It was an email, I got to find them, I checked myself and she said she was trying to use both. 150 00:12:07,690 --> 00:12:08,230 Okay. 151 00:12:10,290 --> 00:12:25,650 Yeah, so all I did, it looks to me like volume is going out from what I can tell in the back, and I turned up the volume here because I like sitting next to the laptop to record what you're all saying. 152 00:12:27,370 --> 00:12:34,470 I'm not sure if that will fix it at this point and let me also, oops, what did I do here? 153 00:12:35,350 --> 00:12:39,070 I'll send them an email back saying, let us know if we can. 154 00:12:39,110 --> 00:12:40,090 Yeah, okay. 155 00:12:40,430 --> 00:12:43,710 Maybe it's the case that people need to do one or the other. 156 00:12:45,150 --> 00:12:48,990 It's almost like listening to the radio while you're calling into the radio station. 157 00:12:49,610 --> 00:12:58,130 I would say try watching her on your cable team B because we have an open zoom to other 158 00:12:58,130 --> 00:13:01,710 outside participants, other than the folks that are staffed from the council. 159 00:13:03,130 --> 00:13:03,250 Right. 160 00:13:03,670 --> 00:13:10,490 The audio issue should be related to the television, not all of us are on, so can he hear each 161 00:13:10,490 --> 00:13:10,790 other fine? 162 00:13:17,250 --> 00:13:17,810 Right. 163 00:13:17,810 --> 00:13:25,370 I did go to my computer to try to listen to it and I had a hard time hearing it. I thought I heard a very low and I'll go back and check again. 164 00:13:26,150 --> 00:13:30,870 Do you want me to open up the first item here on the agenda? 165 00:13:31,910 --> 00:13:32,050 Yes. 166 00:13:32,730 --> 00:13:32,990 Okay. 167 00:13:33,710 --> 00:13:39,580 The update is that the TV is working now, but nothing on streaming. 168 00:13:40,580 --> 00:13:41,600 Nothing is on screen? 169 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:48,220 nothing on the streaming. So the audio is now working on the TV side, but what you 170 00:13:48,220 --> 00:13:55,740 on our streaming version on our website. Oh, interesting. At least then hey that's something. 171 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:04,100 Well we did have, I'm not sure what was done with the carpeting and if there was anything that was 172 00:14:04,100 --> 00:14:11,220 maybe disconnected, it might be an issue with encoder maybe it was bumped into. That sometimes 173 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:19,560 has an issue. I think if we have the TV version fixed, I think that we could tell people 174 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:25,000 to go there rather than look at our streaming. It would be difficult for me to fix the encoder 175 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,800 if that's the issue for the streaming. 176 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:35,520 And isn't it the case that we always re-broadcast everything that's been on the TV's? 177 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:35,880 Yes. 178 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:43,600 the website afterward. Right, and I can usually make a copy of the B8 and the 179 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:53,880 recording for the TV and then upload it to streaming with voice. That's that's 180 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:54,440 to other. 181 00:14:55,460 --> 00:14:55,940 Yes, sir. 182 00:14:57,950 --> 00:14:59,970 So, the world will continue to evolve. 183 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,340 Whatever it is that we need to do, hopefully, you know, if we have issues in terms of hearing, you know, we can only do so much at this point. You know, I know that one of the comments were that, you know, even with the phone, we had to keep on open a little bit longer because there's a delay between the stream and the TV as well. So we'll have to, you know, play with that in case that the comments. 184 00:15:32,130 --> 00:15:35,550 Okay, I believe 185 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:39,410 are we ready to go back? 186 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:40,730 We can, yes. 187 00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:45,150 Just let me know if you want to move down the agenda. 188 00:15:46,330 --> 00:15:49,110 I'm looking for administration. 189 00:15:49,850 --> 00:15:50,430 We can take it. 190 00:15:50,930 --> 00:15:52,530 Okay, so that's okay. 191 00:15:52,890 --> 00:15:53,350 But 192 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,860 no, I can't see it. 193 00:15:57,220 --> 00:15:58,020 You can't see it? 194 00:15:58,980 --> 00:16:00,720 No, I'm going to be in chair again. 195 00:16:01,260 --> 00:16:03,400 Oh, okay. 196 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:12,940 I'm seeing that's on the big screen here and it's something all right let's see share yeah 197 00:16:15,180 --> 00:16:15,980 how 198 00:16:19,180 --> 00:16:19,820 about now 199 00:16:19,820 --> 00:16:28,060 here we go here we go we got it okay all right just the word about the administration and 200 00:16:28,060 --> 00:16:35,360 presentations from the departments in general so we are focusing our presentations on what we 201 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:46,620 call enhancements. That is anything that is over and above or cost work than we had last 202 00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:55,580 year. So those could be in some cases increases beyond our control or also including projects 203 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:01,980 some of which are already funded, some of which would come from the funding. So the 204 00:17:01,980 --> 00:17:09,120 The Administration Department is responsible for making sure that everything runs smoothly. 205 00:17:10,220 --> 00:17:17,880 We are the glue that kind of holds together all the internal services and works with the council 206 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,760 to make sure that everything in the council gets carried out. 207 00:17:22,460 --> 00:17:24,020 You can go ahead and change the slide. 208 00:17:25,020 --> 00:17:25,240 Okay. 209 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,280 So 210 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:34,900 this 211 00:17:37,780 --> 00:17:44,920 is just a talk about the staff that we have, so we have the chief executive officer, 212 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:51,240 financial officer, basically, you know, a conductor of a great sentry of employees, 213 00:17:52,180 --> 00:17:53,660 assistant to the town manager. 214 00:17:54,400 --> 00:18:02,760 This was a change that we made in a couple of the positions during the current fiscal year 215 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:11,480 just to make sure that there were more folks that were in an elevated position and just a administrative role. 216 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:18,160 So working on policies and other issues and we've also initiated some project traction this year. 217 00:18:18,380 --> 00:18:24,960 So then folks can see where we are and put together projects that the council has approved. 218 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:34,880 And also to separate out human resources functions from the treasure because the treasure has an awful lot of treasure work today. 219 00:18:35,940 --> 00:18:50,840 The treasure, as you know, helps Michelle Rodriguez who has helped me put this budget together and really done the heavy lift and tweaked all the numbers multiple, multiple times. 220 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,620 person who is conducting the show today. 221 00:19:00,220 --> 00:19:02,380 I'm not sure I want you to mention that. 222 00:19:03,180 --> 00:19:08,200 We have, you know, depending on the learns of your tricks this week, so far so good. 223 00:19:08,740 --> 00:19:15,180 A person also makes sure she prides in administrative support to putting the agenda together from the council 224 00:19:15,180 --> 00:19:21,940 and manages the elections and keeps track of all of the documents that are approved by the council, 225 00:19:22,340 --> 00:19:31,580 and urgent control, and also has started to do some tracking of agreements and contracts that are approved by the council, 226 00:19:31,900 --> 00:19:37,340 so that we can make sure that we're approving them in a traffic fashion. 227 00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:40,400 And then we have the public information aid. 228 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:48,420 That position is currently vacant, but we've identified someone who was young and talented 229 00:19:48,420 --> 00:19:53,560 at doing a lot of creative stuff, and I look forward to getting here in here, but now 230 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,120 it's not the time. 231 00:19:54,780 --> 00:19:59,460 So we will get her going as soon as we can go in next slide. 232 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:08,600 The role of the council is clearly different than the role of staff. 233 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:22,120 The town council's job is to look at the legislation and consider the legislation that we put in front of them and to give us advice on where they want to go with policies. 234 00:20:23,420 --> 00:20:28,280 Understand that that includes ordinances, resolutions, and some other things. 235 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:35,880 We operate in a system where on all basis, we'll take some time and discuss things through a work session. 236 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:43,160 So then we can get out of all the discussion out and then things after hearings of the necessary 237 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:49,000 the case of ordinances and then vote on them and read it down to each other. 238 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:55,020 The other pool of the council serves is to serve as the representatives of the town to 239 00:20:55,020 --> 00:21:02,660 elected officials from other jurisdictions and with that I wanted to mention that we do 240 00:21:02,660 --> 00:21:12,080 a do hold an annual legislative dinner and it's a great time for us to talk to the delegation 241 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:18,680 from the county and the state about the things that are important to us. Council members, 242 00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:26,960 sweet time, attended the bond bill session on Saturday and on the cell ago and we did receive 243 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:34,360 word that we are receiving the funding. It's not a whole amount that we ask for but we are 244 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:41,100 receiving the funding from the state and the cost of the town to replace those on the 245 00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:46,420 senior center town center bill. So that's great news and that's just so 246 00:21:49,550 --> 00:21:52,530 that is great news and 247 00:21:52,530 --> 00:21:59,590 how that is supposed to work. So our responsibilities are to look at the budget, to look at everything to 248 00:21:59,590 --> 00:22:06,490 do with financing, and that includes looking at finance policies and purchasing and how 249 00:22:06,490 --> 00:22:08,330 we spend that money throughout the year. 250 00:22:09,290 --> 00:22:15,970 Right now, you know, my instruction to staff has been, you're very close, you're really 251 00:22:15,970 --> 00:22:23,870 careful and how you're spending things that aren't purely operational, try and pull back 252 00:22:23,870 --> 00:22:24,490 if you can't. 253 00:22:24,570 --> 00:22:28,790 So, that's sort of where we are in relation to the virus, but that is our responsibility as 254 00:22:28,790 --> 00:22:30,110 as far as finance is concerned. 255 00:22:33,970 --> 00:22:37,710 Human resources, hiring, hiring, 256 00:22:37,970 --> 00:22:39,450 most of staff, employee benefits, 257 00:22:40,010 --> 00:22:42,670 employee compensation, personnel issues, 258 00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:44,710 all of those, all of them in the administration. 259 00:22:46,110 --> 00:22:48,970 And again, the table of televisitation 260 00:22:48,970 --> 00:22:50,870 and communication with social media, 261 00:22:51,970 --> 00:22:53,650 tracking of all the resolutions 262 00:22:53,650 --> 00:22:56,530 and paperwork and other responsibilities. 263 00:22:57,810 --> 00:22:58,490 Go ahead. 264 00:22:59,930 --> 00:23:00,490 All 265 00:23:02,890 --> 00:23:05,750 right, so I'll talk a little bit about the budget itself. 266 00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:10,970 We have included 2% cost of living increase. 267 00:23:11,790 --> 00:23:16,350 I'm not sure if that's actually going to keep up with the cost of living, but that is 268 00:23:16,350 --> 00:23:18,130 the number that we've included. 269 00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:28,370 Last year and in years previous, the town was able to do a 2% merit increase for employees 270 00:23:28,370 --> 00:23:35,370 who have been employed for at least a year as of the beginning of each fiscal year, this 271 00:23:35,370 --> 00:23:59,720 year in response to the virus, we have reduced that to one percent. So that is one of the 272 00:24:06,610 --> 00:24:09,210 So we're going to move to the next slide. 273 00:24:09,410 --> 00:24:10,350 Yes, please. 274 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:20,740 This budget enhancement is to actually take, 275 00:24:24,270 --> 00:24:26,110 actually codify it. 276 00:24:27,090 --> 00:24:34,070 Convocation is a process where all of your ordinances are grouped together by subject matter, 277 00:24:37,540 --> 00:24:39,820 put that together and 278 00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:47,690 this will allow them to be put in and over systematically, very 279 00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:50,210 common for cities and towns to have to service. 280 00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:57,010 And every time you do a change to your ordinance, they actually will make the change. 281 00:24:57,850 --> 00:25:05,390 One of the great benefits of that is it will also be posted online, accessible through our 282 00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:09,950 through our website. That's 283 00:25:20,670 --> 00:25:25,750 a bit of a manual process. It has a $90-hundred-dollar 284 00:25:26,590 --> 00:25:31,770 initial cost to quantify what's already accrued and then an annual cost for 285 00:25:31,770 --> 00:25:34,490 the supplementation to be able to keep updating as we go. 286 00:25:36,130 --> 00:25:39,810 I think that's a good problem because we caused real quick. There's a lot of 287 00:25:39,810 --> 00:25:44,250 feedback or clicking or of some of the 288 00:25:47,610 --> 00:25:49,370 discussion it's about. It looks like there's 289 00:25:49,370 --> 00:25:51,610 three of us that are at 290 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:55,460 work 291 00:25:55,460 --> 00:25:56,940 concerned that it might interfere 292 00:25:56,940 --> 00:26:02,340 with the. Yeah, so I don't know 293 00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:05,520 if. Happy to let it just let me 294 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,500 know when you're in person. If you 295 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:09,500 could try to mute and see if that 296 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:12,560 improves 297 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,720 the other piece to it 298 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,040 that I'm looking at is it does 299 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,860 not look like we're recording I 300 00:26:23,860 --> 00:26:25,340 couldn't be wrong but I do not see 301 00:26:25,340 --> 00:26:26,880 the red dot that's saying we're 302 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,320 It would still be reported on the television. 303 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:34,800 Yes. 304 00:26:35,140 --> 00:26:36,760 It was a different recording system. 305 00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:37,780 So you can. 306 00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:43,080 The television broadcast not the Zoom program directly. 307 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:43,720 Yes. 308 00:26:44,020 --> 00:26:45,000 That's correct. 309 00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:51,000 We are recording through the system in the council chamber. 310 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:56,140 and then there's the zoom recording that's different and separate. 311 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,380 Perfect. Okay, thank you. Continue to have a minute. 312 00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:03,220 Next slide, please. 313 00:27:03,540 --> 00:27:06,620 Oh, wait a minute. 314 00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:27,780 Services is just increased from the company under audit. 315 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,320 There's nothing changing about it other than time goes by. 316 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,620 things get a little bit more expensive. So go ahead and change the next one. 317 00:27:42,370 --> 00:27:43,110 Health insurance, 318 00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:51,770 not just ours, but everyone's health insurance goes up a lot this year. This year, 319 00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:59,070 we are a member of the local government insurance trust, and we offer health insurance for all of 320 00:27:59,070 --> 00:28:04,890 employees, employees that are paid 321 00:28:16,860 --> 00:28:21,940 for by the town. What we have done is in 322 00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:26,230 the 323 00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:26,570 coverage, 324 00:28:44,140 --> 00:28:46,960 you know, that will show up in a budget spreadsheet that's online. 325 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,400 The insurance costs went up, or 326 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,980 I can't see, because I'm sorry. 327 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,320 So back up. 328 00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:02,060 The next one. 329 00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:02,740 It's 330 00:29:07,470 --> 00:29:07,910 not an increase. 331 00:29:08,090 --> 00:29:10,290 So we had this year that beyond our control 332 00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:11,770 is the 333 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,500 town participating for employees. 334 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,260 And it has gone up from 8.6%. 335 00:29:27,260 --> 00:29:31,960 The current fiscal year to 9.38%. 336 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,600 As you can see on the slide. 337 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,740 And that is a $29,500 increase. 338 00:29:38,420 --> 00:29:39,180 The next slide. 339 00:29:39,180 --> 00:29:40,020 a couple 340 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:50,360 of things that we propose to consider on 341 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,320 our c and all of the functions that we have. 342 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:23,760 Thank you for your time. 343 00:30:27,820 --> 00:30:34,640 Thank you for your time. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for your time. 344 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:40,860 needs to be replaced. They use it a lot, and it is an oldie-button duty. It has 345 00:30:40,860 --> 00:30:45,700 actual digital numbers that are made out of plastic that flip over. There's 346 00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:51,140 nothing modern about it. However, I will say that this is one of the 347 00:30:51,140 --> 00:30:58,500 expenses that we may want to consider improving as part of the closed 348 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:05,560 budgets for them to you but I would recommend that we hold off on pulling the trigger on it 349 00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:12,480 until January so there are some expenses that are not things that have to start 350 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:19,200 enhanced excuse me that have to start as a jar one and this is one of them and I would 351 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:27,500 encourage you to consider this but we would not spend the money in the project until we know for sure 352 00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:28,660 that we're in a good place. 353 00:31:29,420 --> 00:31:32,280 But the term, you know, related to the Catechon 354 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,380 is going to be active in this virus. 355 00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:35,080 Next one. 356 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,980 We have custodial services before our buildings, 357 00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:44,360 or all four of our buildings, I should say. 358 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,360 That contract expires the end of June, 359 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,840 so the end of our fiscal year. 360 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,020 Staffs in a great job of putting out 361 00:31:53,020 --> 00:31:56,380 requests for vids for custodial services, 362 00:31:56,380 --> 00:32:03,980 and as you would expect the price came in $2,000 more for the increase but I 363 00:32:03,980 --> 00:32:09,160 think it might actually get a little bit better service. The current service 364 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:14,300 that you have the way the contract was written with them and so specific to 365 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:21,700 every single thing that they do is delineated with the cost rather than you know 366 00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:29,680 please claim this room and that one. So that is $2,000 increase and that would be one that does 367 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:37,520 have to go into effect until I walk. So those are all and I think that's last slide for 368 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:44,960 all right. So those are all of the instruments. Everything else is basically state the same 369 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,500 for the administration department. So with that I'm going to turn it back over right now to the name. 370 00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:59,720 I think your time manager, Brad, at this point, I want to open up for discussion and I'm 371 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,000 going to start with Mayor Pratim Papua, make those any comments. 372 00:33:05,060 --> 00:33:06,800 I'm meeting myself so you can hear me, right? 373 00:33:08,260 --> 00:33:08,380 Yes. 374 00:33:08,980 --> 00:33:09,080 Cool. 375 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:17,060 One question I did have for Maria is on the Merit increase, and if that's compared to our 376 00:33:17,060 --> 00:33:19,880 surrounding neighbors, I know everyone's going through this problem right now. 377 00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:29,220 Our budget process is actually ahead of our neighbors, because your timeline is tighter 378 00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:30,480 than theirs. 379 00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:37,820 I have not consulted them, but typically everybody was doing two and two, and I have not 380 00:33:37,820 --> 00:33:44,120 consulted with the other communities to see whether they are on the same wavelength as 381 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,640 well as the proposals concerned. 382 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,920 Okay. Okay. 383 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,480 Everything else? I don't really have an issue with. I do think it's a good 384 00:33:53,480 --> 00:34:00,220 idea to hold off on the hares and the oven until January. It's probably important for 385 00:34:00,220 --> 00:34:05,820 all the residents to realize that since there's a delay in income tax filings, there's probably 386 00:34:05,820 --> 00:34:13,180 going to throw all of our taxes back in addition to the recession that's happening right now. 387 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:21,180 Other than that, I think it was a good presentation. I don't see anything overly controversial. 388 00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:27,050 Thank you so much. I can't remember so many comments. 389 00:34:32,170 --> 00:34:45,550 Not particularly on the presentation. It's very well done. I'm just looking at the second document with all the costs and everything. 390 00:34:45,550 --> 00:34:49,990 was going to see if we got any new quotes for the chairs. 391 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:54,640 To be honest with you, we didn't get any new 392 00:34:54,640 --> 00:35:04,240 quotes because those are really cheap kind of commercially available chairs that are used by a lot 393 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:12,280 of places that do catering but are not fancy. So would you go to anything and much more quality than 394 00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:30,360 I mean, those are functional and they'd be fine, but if you go far below that, you're going to get into something that's not of a commercial nature, and I wouldn't recommend that you go, you know, we have to do things that are commercial, because we're a commercial operation. 395 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:37,840 You know, you're running out of place to people that are using it at their own discussion. 396 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:47,580 I wouldn't go, I wouldn't go any less quality than Boyvada doing his research somewhere. 397 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,360 Right. Sorry, that. 398 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:57,800 In the $800 increase for audits, that's just like an increase in their building. 399 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:08,700 We're not asking for any services that we don't have, that's their increase over time 400 00:36:09,620 --> 00:36:10,540 for their services. 401 00:36:11,180 --> 00:36:11,500 Okay. 402 00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:13,500 That's it. 403 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,760 I'm done. 404 00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:15,840 All you in. 405 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,800 Thank you so much. 406 00:36:19,980 --> 00:36:21,160 Council Member Dewey. 407 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,960 Yes. 408 00:36:23,460 --> 00:36:28,800 First, I want to thank you for putting this together and thank the Administration Department 409 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,580 it for the flexibility and nimbleness, I would say, that they've had to show. So thank 410 00:36:34,580 --> 00:36:41,320 you all for that. Just a couple of additional things. Really, no questions as much as a 411 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:46,040 comment for me. So I definitely agree with this idea that for the chairs in the oven, 412 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:52,020 pushing those back until January at least. But I'm still, especially given the current 413 00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:57,640 situation, I'm almost in favor of doing the oven in January and then waiting on the chairs 414 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,060 and I feel like, you know, given the last few weeks' events, 415 00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:10,500 I've been sort of ranking everything in my head in terms of priorities, 416 00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:14,240 and as much as staffing those chairs is a pain in the behind, 417 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,240 and there are a little bit questionable on the conference room chairs are too. 418 00:37:20,140 --> 00:37:22,460 To me, given all the other things we have going on, 419 00:37:22,580 --> 00:37:26,180 I would personally be okay with saving the chairs until June, 420 00:37:26,740 --> 00:37:27,620 giving them their six months. 421 00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:36,860 If I may, Council Member, we had a technician come in and look at that oven, and he was 422 00:37:36,860 --> 00:37:43,400 so fascinated with it because he had never seen one that he prepared it for free. 423 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:52,000 And what he found was that someone, you know, unintentionally had moved the heat sensor, 424 00:37:52,820 --> 00:37:56,780 and it is now working much better than it has probably worked in the last 10 years. 425 00:37:56,780 --> 00:38:05,280 Well, that's comforting. I was sort of thinking of that as a safety issue, but it sounds like not something that they solid state that's better quality than something you're going to buy today. 426 00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:09,200 If you want to get that decision, I would almost encourage you to do it the other way around. 427 00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:10,740 Okay. No, thank you for that. 428 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,820 I'll prove the chairs because they're kind of funky. 429 00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:21,540 No, thank you for that information. I was thinking of it the other way with the oven being the scary emergency and the chairs being. 430 00:38:21,540 --> 00:38:32,120 I mean, you're not going to kill that of them, not seeing, you know, it's probably, you know, we probably asked a few years to it's life by it. 431 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,340 They just don't make them like they used to. They don't make them like they used to. 432 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,880 Thank you for that. I appreciate it. 433 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,480 You had a, you had a lot of comment too. 434 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:49,160 No, that was it. It was all jumbled together. Everything else made a lot of sense and it's in line with what we talked about. So I'll yield my time too. 435 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,880 Thank you. Thank you so much, Council Member Osmond. 436 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,780 Hello, everyone. 437 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:57,860 Good morning. 438 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,620 So, that was very nice. The Alvin works. Let's not replace the Alvin. 439 00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:07,220 The chairs, understanding that we can always change the budget. 440 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,000 We can leave them in the budget. 441 00:39:10,220 --> 00:39:13,440 And before January, we can determine whether we're going to use that line. 442 00:39:13,660 --> 00:39:18,020 The chairs, pending what we learned from the situation of the pandemic. 443 00:39:19,060 --> 00:39:21,320 question on the sanitation contract. 444 00:39:23,380 --> 00:39:26,880 Are there standards in place that are performance-based, 445 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:34,580 so that if every little thing that they do is not a line item that you pay for, then 446 00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:40,240 is there a performance standard and expectation that sort of a white glove test, you know, a written 447 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:44,740 performance-based standard that you can apply to tell them you haven't met the contract 448 00:39:44,740 --> 00:39:46,060 You got the meat contract? 449 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,960 Have you met Obama-doors? 450 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:51,260 Yes. 451 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,460 This isn't a town manager. 452 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,780 She's performance-based. 453 00:39:57,340 --> 00:40:01,340 They don't get paid unless they want this happy with the work that they get paid. 454 00:40:01,820 --> 00:40:07,000 Okay, so there's a statement that describes the procedure for getting... 455 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,740 I'm working on the contract right now. 456 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,360 And I have the option to put that in. 457 00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:12,120 We're not happy. 458 00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:12,980 You don't get paid. 459 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:13,880 Okay. 460 00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:19,440 If I was pretty fussy about things like that, I mean, this isn't our house, it's yours. 461 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:27,240 And we're going to make sure that this is the best shape we can make it so that she doesn't 462 00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:27,760 sign off. 463 00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:29,760 I don't sign off on a check ticket. 464 00:40:30,780 --> 00:40:31,080 Okay. 465 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,500 Well, if that works and they're willing to accept that kind of contract, great. 466 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,660 Otherwise, if they're a little hesitant about that, if there's any way that they bond and articulate 467 00:40:39,660 --> 00:40:45,680 what her performance level of standard is, performance-based contracts work really well for 468 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:52,340 genitorial services. An example, as you know, would be cut the grass, not two times a week, 469 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,660 but make sure the grass never grows above six inches. And then that way they determine the amount 470 00:40:57,660 --> 00:41:02,420 of time they have to cut it, and that's the difference to be prescriptive in performance-based contracts. 471 00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:06,700 And that's not this kind of contract. This is contract that says you come on Monday and 472 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:38,320 That's all I have I'll yield my time thank you so much. I will echo my sediments as well to the thanks for the entire administration department not only for this and putting the presentation together and for our wonderful treasure who kept on putting the numbers back and forth and back and forth, but also just for the rest of the day. 473 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:44,320 many and all the hard work that was put before us over these last several weeks as well. 474 00:41:44,780 --> 00:41:50,760 One thing I will say is that, you know, I'm in favor of everything that's here. Hearing that the 475 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:58,500 oven is now working properly, I do agree with town manager Brad Ben that I do believe that 476 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:05,160 we need to get those chairs before we do the oven piece because, you know, the town center, 477 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:10,940 There's a lot of activity that goes on up there and I think it would help enhance our 478 00:42:10,940 --> 00:42:11,540 town as well. 479 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,180 So, at this point, I'm in favor of everything that is here as well. 480 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,060 Council, I'm going to open it up to one final discussion if you do have any additional 481 00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:27,500 discussion points before I open the phone line or read any of the emails. 482 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,260 Please raise your hand so that I can recognize you. 483 00:42:35,530 --> 00:42:36,290 Council member, do it. 484 00:42:38,090 --> 00:42:44,850 Thank you. Just a quick reminder to folks that these have come before us at work sessions. 485 00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:49,630 So if anyone wants to look back, if there's an item that's an interest to you and you 486 00:42:49,630 --> 00:42:54,010 want to look back at the detail discussion we had, you have a few weeks ago at this point. 487 00:42:54,450 --> 00:42:59,130 I think late February and early March, those are on the website. So all of the information 488 00:42:59,130 --> 00:43:02,830 is there too. If you just want to see the other time we talk about it as background, I just 489 00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:08,090 Yeah, Mr. Mayor, if I may, thank you, Councilmember Dewey. 490 00:43:09,010 --> 00:43:17,850 When we discuss them in work sessions, we gain more paid work than is online attached 491 00:43:17,850 --> 00:43:24,650 to this agenda, but attached to each one of these enhancements is a form that staff 492 00:43:24,650 --> 00:43:26,450 is prepared justifying each one. 493 00:43:27,310 --> 00:43:31,610 So when you look at the agenda for today's meeting, you'll see now only the power points 494 00:43:31,610 --> 00:43:37,330 but you'll see what we call budget enhancements and that has the details about what would happen. 495 00:43:37,530 --> 00:43:40,230 We didn't buy it, and I'm going to put some money here so that's it. 496 00:43:41,570 --> 00:43:42,150 Thank you. 497 00:43:42,970 --> 00:43:43,910 Thank you very much. 498 00:43:45,630 --> 00:43:51,270 Seeing no other hands, Council Member Dewey, are there any emails that have come in before I open the phone? 499 00:43:51,930 --> 00:43:53,330 Yes, there is an email. 500 00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:59,610 From resident, this is Jody Culpa, and I'm room at TN Street asking about the co-cification, 501 00:43:59,610 --> 00:44:04,610 wanting to know how would that benefit the town, and could it be delayed until the next 502 00:44:04,610 --> 00:44:05,230 fiscal year? 503 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:14,020 Mr. Mann, so right now we have a town code that is not codified. 504 00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:24,400 So when we want to find out what the history of something is, literally someone is going through 505 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:35,640 In a lot of cases, minutes manually, there was a lot of improving legislation in the past that wasn't actually legislation that was written with the Toronto Council. 506 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,460 So there's a lot of scrambling around to find things. 507 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:51,960 The standard process is that something gets approved and gets put into a format that is there for history sake. 508 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:59,920 We don't have that right now, so it's a basic function of good government practice. 509 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,960 I'm kind of being put off. Sure, you've put it up for a long time already. You know, I'll understand 510 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:13,740 that you also have a clerk who, as at some point, I'm blessed, I'm going to retire. And before 511 00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:20,440 that happens, this needs to be put into a form that can be transferred from one person to 512 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:26,560 the other seamlessly without anyone trying to figure out what the last person did. So, it's 513 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:31,400 It's a best management practice that will just bring us up a lot of times. 514 00:45:31,540 --> 00:45:32,240 Can't be put off. 515 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,780 Sure, we've been putting it off for a long time. 516 00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:39,740 But I would encourage you to go forward and give this things right. 517 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,500 Okay, thank you so much. 518 00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:47,660 Council member, do any additional emails of this time? 519 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,020 No, just that one. 520 00:45:49,540 --> 00:45:49,720 Okay. 521 00:45:52,580 --> 00:45:53,020 So, 522 00:45:57,090 --> 00:45:58,230 with that, Mr. Mayor, 523 00:45:58,230 --> 00:46:09,230 I'm going to introduce House Goodwin, who is going to go through the presentation and enhancements for the co-compliance department. 524 00:46:09,690 --> 00:46:16,810 Before she does that, let me open the phone lines for any additional comments for administration before we move into my houses. 525 00:46:17,290 --> 00:46:17,610 That's okay. 526 00:46:17,610 --> 00:46:26,670 Okay, so the phone line is 30147495703014749570. 527 00:46:26,990 --> 00:46:27,450 In 528 00:46:38,140 --> 00:46:43,580 that maybe next time it'll be good to give the phone number, then read any emails. 529 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,960 That way, that delay can be taken care of, and we can put folks on hold for minutes we have to. 530 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,160 Good idea. 531 00:47:02,460 --> 00:47:04,940 3-0-1-4-7-4-9-5-70. 532 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,980 Can I just say this whole process reminds me of when you see people interviewed on the 533 00:47:15,980 --> 00:47:21,180 space shuttle or something, you know, you know, we're not floating around the air, but it 534 00:47:21,180 --> 00:47:25,240 seems like the same kind of communication with people just so far far away. 535 00:47:25,660 --> 00:47:26,020 Exactly. 536 00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:34,240 Okay, you're having no phone calls. We will move into code compliance. Good morning. 537 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,440 Ms. Goodwin. How are you today? 538 00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:38,140 Well, how are you? 539 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,760 Wonderful. Thank you so much. 540 00:47:40,220 --> 00:47:44,320 Good morning to everybody. Everyone is doing well and staying safe. 541 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,520 I'll go ahead and move right into our presentation for our advancement. 542 00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:54,780 just to start with our mission statement. 543 00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,140 So prior to itself, one adherence to doing our part 544 00:48:00,140 --> 00:48:04,280 in guarding the health safety and general welfare of the town 545 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,600 by monitoring and requiring compliance with property 546 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,260 building and environmental regulations that work by the town 547 00:48:12,260 --> 00:48:15,780 by French George County by the state of Maryland 548 00:48:15,780 --> 00:48:17,040 and federal requirements. 549 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,720 and go to the next slide please, all 550 00:48:24,110 --> 00:48:24,370 right. 551 00:48:25,130 --> 00:48:28,530 Co-compliance staff consists of my fellow director, 552 00:48:29,330 --> 00:48:33,010 a full-time focal client officer two, Ms. Tammy Demby, 553 00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:36,550 and a focal client officer one Ms. Zelda Bell. 554 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,320 The client has several functions, 555 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,980 but just to go over the most prominent, 556 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,160 first would be our rental properties. 557 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,060 We have about 250 rental properties in the town currently. 558 00:48:52,060 --> 00:48:57,920 We inspect the properties at least once yearly, just to ensure that they are maintaining 559 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:03,960 safety and sanitation standards as our ordinance is, for insurance and county code, and 560 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,660 the international community maintenance standards. 561 00:49:07,980 --> 00:49:15,420 We also issue permits for a building right away, a roll-up dumpster and temporary storage for 562 00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:16,160 properment, 563 00:49:21,490 --> 00:49:26,810 licensing, we accept applications and issue business licenses for our talent 564 00:49:26,810 --> 00:49:27,250 businesses. 565 00:49:28,190 --> 00:49:33,810 In the property standards, we survey the town regularly and charge that to administer 566 00:49:33,810 --> 00:49:39,510 a fair and comprehensive compliance program amongst our residential, rental and commercial 567 00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:45,790 town properties to correct violations and hopes of enhancing property and community values. 568 00:49:45,790 --> 00:49:46,990 For 569 00:49:49,480 --> 00:50:17,300 zoning matters, code monitors, properties, for zoning violations that are forced by the county, we present to the town council and give recommendations in support of or not for variance requests and then we forward those recommendations will report the council's recommendations to the county board of appeals and then last but not least, we also process and keep track of personal property taxes for business. 570 00:50:18,740 --> 00:50:21,500 So moving on to the next slide. 571 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:28,940 So code is recommended a discontinuation of the VAM program, in short we've seen an 572 00:50:28,940 --> 00:50:34,820 extreme decrease in ridership over time, we just feel that the funds that have been 573 00:50:34,820 --> 00:50:39,900 allocated for the VAM program in the past would be of better use to the department elsewhere. 574 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:48,480 This would be a cost increase of $2,000 and would actually cover 5 out of 6 of the departments 575 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,840 enhancement requests for fiscal year 2021. 576 00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:58,350 So, just to give a bit more background about call of bus and how we arrived at this recommendation 577 00:50:58,890 --> 00:51:05,970 as we all know, call of bus provides local transportation services primarily to the town seniors 578 00:51:05,970 --> 00:51:11,810 and persons with disabilities, due to a decrease in ridership, we had transferred the VAMV 579 00:51:11,810 --> 00:51:13,130 utilize for call of us. 580 00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:20,170 We was alone to bring about in 2018 and then was transferred in 2019 because they had 581 00:51:20,170 --> 00:51:21,530 a much greater need for it. 582 00:51:22,070 --> 00:51:25,790 And they co-contain you to perform call of us services using our department view pool. 583 00:51:27,090 --> 00:51:32,570 Within the last year, we had just one resident who was using the call of us service. 584 00:51:33,110 --> 00:51:39,590 She was using it once or twice a month, and she no longer resides in the town, and then 585 00:51:39,590 --> 00:51:44,470 since that time, which was in December, when she left, we have had any other requests 586 00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:45,790 for her ride. 587 00:51:46,070 --> 00:51:48,330 So, we're really not operating the program. 588 00:51:49,610 --> 00:51:53,310 When we do acknowledge that there would be a need for alternatives. 589 00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:58,130 So, you know, there's Metro Bloss, there's the Bloss that's operated by Prince George County. 590 00:51:59,030 --> 00:52:04,750 There's metro access and there are buildings via program which provides free and low-cost 591 00:52:04,750 --> 00:52:11,070 cab services and then of course there's always our ride sharing services like Uber and 592 00:52:11,070 --> 00:52:19,270 Lyft which provides services 24 seconds so again just in summary we feel the funds would 593 00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:26,730 be a better use to the department in other areas as the all of us programs not all can call 594 00:52:28,980 --> 00:52:37,060 That's that. We can move to the next slide. Our first enhancer request is for network and software. This would be for 595 00:52:37,060 --> 00:52:46,740 Compate for the renewal to use the Compate for this year. Compate is extension database, extension to the 596 00:52:46,740 --> 00:52:53,200 department's functions. We store reports and information for our rental properties. We create our rental and business licenses. 597 00:52:53,200 --> 00:53:05,040 We manage our property maintenance cases, create records of all our permits, and also use it now to keep track of our personal property taxes. 598 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,720 It's our primary method of record storage and communication. 599 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,360 So the software cost for this year is approximately $9,800. 600 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:20,140 dollars in a $3,000 increase from last year, and this covers the cost of the 601 00:53:20,140 --> 00:53:24,940 software license fee renewal, maintenance for all the modules and detracting, 602 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:30,320 and co-comptages has an increase in their cost for the program, and then we also 603 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,540 have the additional module that we requested for personal property tax that's 604 00:53:34,540 --> 00:53:35,980 caused the cost to go up a bit, too. 605 00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:42,850 Having an enhanced request for training and 606 00:53:42,850 --> 00:53:47,390 tribal, we're combined on this slide, but all Coast staff needs additional training. 607 00:53:48,270 --> 00:53:53,250 That training would include meetings of the Code Departments, Training Classes, 608 00:53:53,590 --> 00:53:59,050 professional works, some of the events we've filled would be valuable due to take place 609 00:53:59,050 --> 00:54:05,290 outside of just our local area, excuse me, so that's where we included that request for 610 00:54:05,290 --> 00:54:06,150 a tribal fund. 611 00:54:06,930 --> 00:54:07,650 It's a proper cost. 612 00:54:07,790 --> 00:54:10,110 We have to go out a little further for those training events. 613 00:54:11,530 --> 00:54:17,710 This training, of course, will help us to become more knowledgeable and effective, better 614 00:54:17,710 --> 00:54:23,990 understanding of safety, and just make us better equipped to perform our job function. 615 00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:31,210 This enhancement would include costs for training and study materials, books, workbooks, 616 00:54:31,890 --> 00:54:39,430 flashcards, especially in pursuit of certification for personal maintenance, and housing 617 00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:45,270 inspection certification which is issued through the International Code Council. So the total cost 618 00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:55,970 for training $2800 that's an $800 increase from last year and then $550 for travel which is an 619 00:54:55,970 --> 00:54:59,170 increase as it wasn't included in the budget for fiscal year 2020. 620 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,680 So next we have to request 621 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:12,720 access for uniform. All closed staff needs uniforms for two full-time staff and one part-time 622 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:19,140 uniforms. We fill our essential for safety, identifiability, just professionalism and 623 00:55:19,140 --> 00:55:26,760 cohesiveness. Total cost for uniforms that we gather through quotes with on-dee visa buy and 624 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:35,320 from other online retailers at $750. That's a $250 increase from the previous year and that cost 625 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:42,820 would include a uniform shirt, pants, an appropriate safety boot or shoe and jacket, as well 626 00:55:42,820 --> 00:55:47,080 as embroidery cost for those items and replacement has necessary. 627 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:56,460 And then last and finally, also combined, our vehicle expenses co-recently acquired an additional 628 00:55:56,460 --> 00:56:01,020 vehicle. It's the 2008 Dodge pick-up that came down from public works. 629 00:56:03,180 --> 00:56:04,600 The vehicle is going to be 630 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,560 operated full-time, so we are, of course, 631 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,820 anticipating there will be an additional need 632 00:56:09,820 --> 00:56:10,840 for gas and oil. 633 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,360 So total costs for gas and oil for $200.00. 634 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,820 That's the $300 increase from last year. 635 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,820 And I'm also going into the, 636 00:56:18,940 --> 00:56:22,780 excuse me, anticipating a need for preventative maintenance 637 00:56:22,780 --> 00:56:25,420 for this vehicle in addition to the one we already have. 638 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,580 And so we're asking for an increase of $100.00, 639 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,220 total costs of $200.00 for preventative maintenance. 640 00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:34,480 and that is global. 641 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,080 Thank you very much. 642 00:56:39,740 --> 00:56:41,400 Council, I'll open up for discussion. 643 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,200 I'll start with Mayor Bertel and Popponeckless. 644 00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:45,520 All right. 645 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,400 So my understanding from your presentation 646 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,060 and from what you presented in the past, 647 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,040 he's seen what a home is. 648 00:56:53,620 --> 00:56:56,680 Not great with math, which I'm not into it. 649 00:56:56,700 --> 00:56:58,520 The only real increase is the complaint 650 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,720 is the rest sort of. 651 00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:04,740 Right, kind of balances out the regulation of the event. 652 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:05,160 Yep. 653 00:57:06,860 --> 00:57:07,180 All right. 654 00:57:09,420 --> 00:57:15,220 Do you I'm curious to hear views get you see good value and 655 00:57:15,220 --> 00:57:16,100 compete for you? 656 00:57:17,260 --> 00:57:20,080 I mean, I played with any of the other softwares out there. 657 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,360 I haven't worked with any of the other softwares. 658 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,060 I like Conte. 659 00:57:25,180 --> 00:57:30,860 It has its part, but I will say that their team is very active 660 00:57:30,860 --> 00:57:37,040 they quit to respond and to help us work through the issues that we have with it. 661 00:57:37,580 --> 00:57:40,300 It's now functioning on our iPads, so that's great. 662 00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:46,880 So I mean, I like to call it the Compute Program and they are working in one enhanced in 663 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:47,240 a software. 664 00:57:47,500 --> 00:57:53,640 They have Compute 2.0 that they're going to roll out in the near future, so we have a release 665 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,220 issue with them. 666 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:54,980 I like the program. 667 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:55,880 Thank you. 668 00:57:57,420 --> 00:58:06,840 If I can add to that, I have used other softwares, and most of the other ones that I've 669 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:15,000 used are really designed for much bigger code operations than we are in our custom. 670 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,500 Literally, they take our forms and create the screens out of them. 671 00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:28,360 and the value that is compared to our size would be hard to justify. 672 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:36,580 So the beauty of Concave is they're designing a system that they do customize for us 673 00:58:36,580 --> 00:58:42,140 but the basic part of the program, you know, you're not starting from scratch 674 00:58:42,140 --> 00:58:47,240 customizing the whole thing. So they're a little more geared to our size 675 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,980 than something like trackator track wise. 676 00:58:52,780 --> 00:58:57,960 Okay, that's one of everyone's happy with it and sees the value and I'll be okay with 677 00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:58,580 the increase. 678 00:59:04,180 --> 00:59:04,460 Okay. 679 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:05,500 Thank you so much. 680 00:59:05,580 --> 00:59:10,700 I was just waiting for Mayor Hertz and Bob Naples to turn on mute because I didn't know 681 00:59:10,700 --> 00:59:11,440 he had anything else. 682 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,400 Next up is Council Member Sweeney. 683 00:59:17,930 --> 00:59:22,890 I just want to kind of echo what Jason's at about the call of us 684 00:59:23,690 --> 00:59:25,330 kind of equaling out 685 00:59:26,290 --> 00:59:32,650 Or being like a net neutral or the rest of them and yeah, I don't really have anything 686 00:59:32,650 --> 00:59:36,820 I'll do them that to ask so all you 687 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,760 Thank you so much council member doing 688 00:59:41,260 --> 00:59:48,200 Thank you. Yeah, you know, I agree with that. I think that's important to know sort of the way this particular 689 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,880 departments, items are leveling out but I also think it's one of those that we've talked 690 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,520 about in the before in terms of actually budgeting for what we're spending. 691 00:59:57,780 --> 00:59:59,980 So things like fuel that we need to. 692 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,760 I think it's important that we are trying to account for that stuff in the budget as much as possible, just in terms of accuracy and all that good stuff. So I think with all that said, in addition to getting that feedback on how concrete is working, the fact that it's now working on the iPads, I don't have any issues on the items here. Thank you. Thank you so much, Council Member Osmond. I think it's good that the dropping of the man will provide funds to support the other and 693 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:45,040 enhancements. I would just note that with the circumstance, with the pandemic, that maybe we certainly have to revisit the idea of travel and so that we can let that ride in the budget, but then reassess it for the end of the world. And I would ask that you know, the one that you know, in actions will do. 694 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:52,220 I would encourage you to let the conferences decide whether the conferences can be held. 695 01:00:52,220 --> 01:00:55,560 They're all going to be relying on states of emergency. 696 01:00:56,860 --> 01:01:03,160 All of the conferences that were to be held this spring have already been canceled. 697 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:08,800 So, you know, I can rely on the state of emergency to decide whether a conference is safe to be held. 698 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,140 It's probably the best way to go. 699 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,380 You know, the police conference was canceled. 700 01:01:13,620 --> 01:01:20,020 I'm going to bet that your MML conference in Ocean City will probably cancel that soon. 701 01:01:20,020 --> 01:01:23,700 But they're not going to hold those conferences if it takes an emergency 702 01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:24,060 effort. 703 01:01:25,220 --> 01:01:25,720 Understood. 704 01:01:29,740 --> 01:01:30,800 I don't have anything further. 705 01:01:31,660 --> 01:01:31,840 All right. 706 01:01:32,140 --> 01:01:32,440 Thank you. 707 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,760 I really have nothing more to add regarding this. 708 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,290 I think everything is putting self-explanatory. 709 01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:47,840 I'll let you answer my question in terms of whether or not the connectivity and the communication 710 01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:58,000 that was a concern at the beginning, so the fact that that's working, I'm happy about 711 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:08,540 that. So I'm pretty pleased in terms of that overall with your presentation, so I really 712 01:02:08,540 --> 01:02:15,740 have no questions or comments or concerns about that. At this point, I'm going to open up one last 713 01:02:15,740 --> 01:02:22,680 time for council. I know that we do have a couple of comments that I'll get to, but right now, 714 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,960 I see councilmember sweep having his hand up. You want to make a sweep? 715 01:02:28,060 --> 01:02:29,900 Oh yeah, I just wanted to echo 716 01:02:30,740 --> 01:02:36,380 kind of what Maria was saying about like letting conferences kind of cancel and just the importance of 717 01:02:36,380 --> 01:02:42,700 having that in the budget, even, you know, the one that we're going to approve it may because it's a lot 718 01:02:42,700 --> 01:02:48,380 easier you know if this once this clears up just to go forward with the 719 01:02:48,380 --> 01:02:54,540 monies and the budget as opposed to the new sort of this like hold on it until 720 01:02:54,540 --> 01:02:57,420 a later date so that's all. 721 01:02:59,810 --> 01:03:02,810 Okay thank you so much. Two comments that came 722 01:03:02,810 --> 01:03:12,610 from our chat itself one was how many commercial license do we have and did we 723 01:03:12,610 --> 01:03:20,070 get several quotes on uniforms to find the best price. 724 01:03:22,850 --> 01:03:24,350 I'm sorry, I'm not forgetting mine. 725 01:03:24,770 --> 01:03:31,810 Let me answer that question directly with staff when she sends it to me again. 726 01:03:31,950 --> 01:03:36,150 I don't think that that question was meant for the entire council is from the staff member. 727 01:03:36,730 --> 01:03:39,970 And I don't think it is related to this code presentation. 728 01:03:45,860 --> 01:03:53,200 And the question related to uniforms, we get the uniforms largely from the same place 729 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:59,260 of the police departmentals and the organization where we buy them is the same place like 730 01:03:59,260 --> 01:04:06,360 where the firing ranges and all Prince George County is buying their uniforms there. 731 01:04:06,580 --> 01:04:09,260 I can't imagine you're going to find a cheaper radio or else. 732 01:04:09,260 --> 01:04:10,200 Okay. 733 01:04:12,340 --> 01:04:21,160 Thank you so much. One final open for the discussion for council before we open 734 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,140 emails and bookmarks. 735 01:04:26,380 --> 01:04:31,580 Okay. Hearing none. While council member do is looking at our email, 736 01:04:32,220 --> 01:04:43,560 our phone number 301-474-9570-301474957070. Council member do we any email? 737 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,800 else for code. No, no. Okay. 738 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:56,740 Thank you so much. The online is open 3014749570. And for the record 739 01:04:56,740 --> 01:05:00,900 again, the email is adoe, so adoewe. 740 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:03,860 And 741 01:05:20,180 --> 01:05:21,160 we will 742 01:05:25,770 --> 01:05:37,430 move on to the Public Works Department and their budget enhancement and presentation. 743 01:05:40,890 --> 01:05:41,650 Thank you. 744 01:05:42,330 --> 01:05:42,690 Thank you. 745 01:05:44,190 --> 01:05:45,670 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 746 01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:53,130 The mission of the Public Works Department, shown in the screen, is one of those that it 747 01:05:53,130 --> 01:05:55,610 would be really obvious that they do their job. 748 01:05:56,970 --> 01:06:04,730 Everything that has to do with a direct service that's provided to every home in this town 749 01:06:05,530 --> 01:06:10,570 on more than a weekly basis comes from your public works department. They're picking up your 750 01:06:10,570 --> 01:06:16,950 trash, they're picking up your yardways, it snows, they're handling the snow, anything to 751 01:06:16,950 --> 01:06:22,990 do with trees that fall on the roadway, anything with the public right away, those are your folks. 752 01:06:23,430 --> 01:06:29,310 And they're out there, they do a fantastic job. So that's what they do. 753 01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:33,960 This is a little bit 754 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,160 They're more on their mission and sort of the areas where they work, streets, sidewalks, 755 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:45,900 curb, gutters, vegetation, their monographs, and flowers are the kin. 756 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:52,840 All of your town events, they're the folks that do, don't notice because they're in there 757 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,460 before you can set things up and put things away when you're done. 758 01:06:58,140 --> 01:06:58,720 The 759 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:11,940 organization chart made a little bit of a change, maybe that's a perfect thing to see right now. 760 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:13,820 A little bit of a change this year. 761 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:30,360 We had advertised for to fill the position of the director who retired and frankly we weren't getting the quality of applicants that we should have to run that department. 762 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,900 largely because we're an office law operation and we're not able to offer the 763 01:07:35,900 --> 01:07:41,960 type of salary that was fitting up the job description. So I appreciate the 764 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,880 counsel's approval to look at that in a little different way so we're looking at 765 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:53,720 someone who has a public administration background and could manage a public 766 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:58,720 works department as well as they could, could department or something else, someone 767 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:06,160 who's really going to rally the folks that are down there, work on all the personality 768 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:14,020 issues, work on all the administrative issues, you know, it's a vital function and I have 769 01:08:14,020 --> 01:08:22,240 to give a shout out right now to Rosalie Jones who has been really helping me out with the 770 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:28,400 She's a part-timer right now. She's working at home and she's learning some new tricks this week, too 771 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:34,440 But she's been doing a heck of a job to keep things running administratively 772 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,140 This weekend and last weekend, particularly so thank her for that 773 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:45,960 Know that the change to go into administrative manager does you some savings? 774 01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:51,760 We have a number of positions in this department 775 01:08:52,240 --> 01:09:15,080 We keep those positions now posted as openings constantly because it is a piece of the type of workers that are really valuable to everyone and it's a really competitive world out there, maybe not right at this moment, but we have always a need for CDL drivers. 776 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,600 You know, I understand we're a little bit different, 777 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,260 and I'm a public work department. 778 01:09:20,060 --> 01:09:22,880 I need to know that when people have sent it to your house, 779 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,880 I would be like, what happened in the comments? 780 01:09:25,540 --> 01:09:29,260 So we do a background check and there's a balance 781 01:09:29,260 --> 01:09:32,780 between whether we've got something with the right skills, 782 01:09:33,260 --> 01:09:34,320 whether we've got the right time. 783 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:39,900 So we will pursue, again, the best people that we possibly can, 784 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:41,740 but we'll often have openings. 785 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,420 So we use a lot of temps. 786 01:09:43,420 --> 01:09:45,140 So, all right, next slide. 787 01:09:49,580 --> 01:09:51,660 All right, so now look at budget enhancements. 788 01:09:52,340 --> 01:09:55,900 We have a vehicle replacement fund, as you know, 789 01:09:56,820 --> 01:10:01,020 and vehicles that are proposed and as funded to be purchased, 790 01:10:01,700 --> 01:10:04,580 are being purchased to the vehicle replacement fund. 791 01:10:04,900 --> 01:10:09,120 So this is long-term planning that the council has been doing financially 792 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:14,900 to fund fees, vehicles, made a little bit of a change on this vehicle 793 01:10:14,900 --> 01:10:24,520 That's in front of you. The truck is in rough shape, but the truck itself is in rough 794 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:31,920 shape, but the dump body is in great shape. Whoever has a four-sided-by-stain steel dump 795 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:39,160 body, did you favor? So this is just for the replacement of this truck itself. This is a really 796 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:45,780 and poor truck as part of your concern and just a note about the way your financing for 797 01:10:45,780 --> 01:10:52,340 these are done and relationship issues related to your audit, you cannot move the vehicle replacement 798 01:10:52,340 --> 01:11:00,240 fund for some other purpose. It is in the budget to be used to be able to replace and you 799 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,540 can't use it for operations. So the next one 800 01:11:05,750 --> 01:11:13,410 is for a new garbage truck, refugees 801 01:11:13,410 --> 01:11:20,010 available, use it for recycling also. It replaces, well, the water replaces a 802 01:11:20,010 --> 01:11:24,590 bit of a nest number here. It's actually replacing a much older vehicle because 803 01:11:24,590 --> 01:11:31,830 the 2016 that is in line to be replaced will still remain part of art fleet. So in the 804 01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:36,690 In case of these really heavy vehicles, you put them in as a replacement, but you actually 805 01:11:36,690 --> 01:11:43,010 keep them so that you have four operable vehicles at any time. 806 01:11:44,410 --> 01:11:51,170 I believe the picture at the bottom is our new truck that has just been built for us 807 01:11:51,170 --> 01:11:57,730 that you approved last year, note that there is not a parking lot of trash truck sitting 808 01:11:57,730 --> 01:12:04,010 in some way. When you approve a purchase and we go through the process of buying it, 809 01:12:04,290 --> 01:12:08,110 never building that truck for you. So the bottom, the picture at the bottom is your 810 01:12:08,110 --> 01:12:14,590 new truck, the new 22. That should be here and hopefully that next few, next few weeks 811 01:12:14,590 --> 01:12:21,010 and happy giving it a very ride if you want to check that out when it's done. We have gone 812 01:12:21,010 --> 01:12:28,970 to putting car tippers on the back of all these trucks, as you know during this current 813 01:12:28,970 --> 01:12:35,470 fiscal year, we're actually going for it. We had the funding and we've gone with recycling 814 01:12:35,470 --> 01:12:41,170 toners for all the residences, upping our game as far as the recycling goes and being 815 01:12:41,170 --> 01:12:50,410 in a much better shape in terms of eliminating injuries to our staff. As we get this truck 816 01:12:50,410 --> 01:12:55,970 market line will be in better shape to in some cases actually have folks be able to 817 01:12:55,970 --> 01:12:57,310 use towers for the trash. 818 01:12:58,310 --> 01:13:04,310 We're not looking to or proposing or suggesting that we purchased them but we will let folks 819 01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:09,810 know which brand they can buy and where they can buy them locally so that they can also 820 01:13:09,810 --> 01:13:10,970 be used for the trash. 821 01:13:11,210 --> 01:13:16,030 The towers have the advantage of having wheels and laying on top of them and you know for 822 01:13:16,030 --> 01:13:22,270 There are purposes also been in to being much better on the backs of our staff. 823 01:13:23,690 --> 01:13:24,530 Next slide, please. 824 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:37,700 This piece of equipment, we run one leak back in and when it went down this fall, everybody knew about it. 825 01:13:37,700 --> 01:13:45,320 So, this vehicle was actually in to be replaced quite some time ago, but for some reason that wasn't done. 826 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:54,100 Even though the funding sat in the bank and sat there couldn't be used for anything else, but vehicle replacement. 827 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:59,480 So, we are looking at getting that piece of machinery fixed. 828 01:14:01,020 --> 01:14:08,900 Collective leaves with a lead vacuum is the most labor-intensive, the most expensive way 829 01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:09,740 to collect it. 830 01:14:10,620 --> 01:14:17,460 But being as we're a small town and those are the expectations of the community, we are 831 01:14:17,460 --> 01:14:18,980 not proposing to change that. 832 01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:21,900 We're proposing to stay with this kind of equipment. 833 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,980 I do not want to keep the old machine. 834 01:14:25,540 --> 01:14:26,180 We have none. 835 01:14:26,180 --> 01:14:35,280 repairs to it. We'll look to sell that machine because it's dusty. You basically run a big fan 836 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:42,080 and that fan and all that machinery gets all full of dust and everything else. So it's a really 837 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:49,280 tough machine and like I said you know when it goes down. So this is to replace our current piece 838 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,760 to the point then, every two, three, two, three, two, three, two, three, two, three, 839 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:28,460 Funding from selling a piece of equipment goes back in to the equipment replacement fund. That's actually in your code somewhere. So, the piece of equipment will be a place car or a trash truck. You can sold that money by code. When it's back into that fund, to help offset any increases that happen a number of times or the adjustments that we have to make in the type of machine read, just natural place, especially in case of equipment like this, where you're putting it off. 840 01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:34,560 The replacement of the backhoe couldn't have come off this year. 841 01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:44,400 It was ready to be replaced this year because there's still more life in that piece of machinery 842 01:15:44,820 --> 01:15:48,800 and I think that the time frame that was put in your vehicle replacement fund was a little 843 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,140 bit too short for a piece of machinery like that. 844 01:15:51,140 --> 01:15:59,000 And I have not put that forward in front of you, both for fiscal purpose safety when you can't touch those funds. 845 01:15:59,700 --> 01:16:03,200 But because we're buying a couple of big pieces of machinery this year, 846 01:16:03,440 --> 01:16:08,220 and Lee's machine looks at guys like to call him Lee Bird and track track. 847 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:09,340 Next slide. 848 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:10,700 We'll go 849 01:16:14,350 --> 01:16:14,970 to the next slide. 850 01:16:14,970 --> 01:16:15,210 Yeah. 851 01:16:15,570 --> 01:16:16,290 All 852 01:16:19,460 --> 01:16:19,580 right. 853 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:31,180 So at some point, we started purchasing all our own tables and picket tables and tables 854 01:16:31,180 --> 01:16:39,980 and all of those sorts of things for our public events, events like burn on high-stay, national 855 01:16:39,980 --> 01:16:44,000 night out, and this picture on bottom right is where they've been stored. 856 01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:54,180 It's a little hoop house thing covered with a tarp that is far beyond its useful life. 857 01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:56,420 There's actually some mowers in there. 858 01:16:57,380 --> 01:17:02,960 What I'm proposing is to purchase, on a note I would call Connick's box. 859 01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:08,760 It might be using shipping containers and other public works programs that I've managed. 860 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:19,860 that are relatively inexpensive. We have with us this help talk to the folks of code in the county to find out what our requirements would be. 861 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,960 So we're proposing to buy, I don't want to get a used one per se, I want to get one that's pretty new. 862 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:35,020 But a different kind of container that's watertight. You can invest a lot of money and all that equipment and you need to be able to restore it. 863 01:17:35,020 --> 01:17:36,080 next slide. 864 01:17:38,930 --> 01:17:47,030 This fiscal year we were able to replace the overhead roll-up doors on the main 865 01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:54,110 public works building. I appreciate the Council's approval on that. This is just continuing on with 866 01:17:54,110 --> 01:18:00,530 that program. The current doors, so you've got your main public works building and then you have this 867 01:18:00,530 --> 01:18:06,510 little smaller building with your face and the property to the right of it, and that building 868 01:18:06,510 --> 01:18:16,450 is holding some equipment, but it's also holding your hazards and materials, storage, and 869 01:18:16,450 --> 01:18:25,370 the doors and insulation on that building are, well, if it was somehow a property, we'd be 870 01:18:25,370 --> 01:18:27,950 the issue of a code violation, don't look out, don't look. 871 01:18:29,790 --> 01:18:35,350 So something about it, I think it may have made you know, 872 01:18:35,470 --> 01:18:37,690 maybe a homemade job to install the doors there, 873 01:18:37,850 --> 01:18:39,970 but the doors and the tracks, the rolls on the tracks 874 01:18:39,970 --> 01:18:41,070 and the doors don't match. 875 01:18:42,230 --> 01:18:48,390 So it is more than several times that the doors just slump and 876 01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:51,630 fall all the way down the bottom and you have this huge gap where 877 01:18:51,630 --> 01:18:53,910 George is not covering the opening. 878 01:18:55,310 --> 01:19:01,470 So we are looking to request the view to place the overhead 879 01:19:01,470 --> 01:19:02,850 George for that storage building. 880 01:19:03,250 --> 01:19:04,250 We can go on to the next slide. 881 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:09,820 And this is what we talked about. 882 01:19:10,020 --> 01:19:12,720 I know Councillor Cumberstreet wanted us to look 883 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:13,860 in this grand insulation. 884 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,080 We have not found, I did not proposing this to you 885 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,260 to talk about what type of method we will use. 886 01:19:21,260 --> 01:19:25,460 we will work with the professional companies 887 01:19:25,460 --> 01:19:27,380 to find the best thing that they recommend, 888 01:19:27,380 --> 01:19:31,040 but this is the picture of the installation in that building. 889 01:19:34,140 --> 01:19:36,520 Clearly not really exciting anything. 890 01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:40,960 So this is probably well-intended 891 01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,740 that most of the themselves building installation 892 01:19:43,740 --> 01:19:50,320 is all far enough and it needs to be replaced next time. 893 01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:53,020 Oh, that's a good one. 894 01:19:57,390 --> 01:19:58,110 Let's see. 895 01:19:58,550 --> 01:20:01,170 All right, there we go. 896 01:20:01,770 --> 01:20:05,890 So, two weeks ago, we had the folks 897 01:20:05,890 --> 01:20:09,130 from a food scrap composting company 898 01:20:09,130 --> 01:20:11,030 come in and speak to you. 899 01:20:11,750 --> 01:20:14,230 This is sort of their minimum low service. 900 01:20:15,030 --> 01:20:19,690 The picture shown here is one that is a wrap-off in college park. 901 01:20:20,270 --> 01:20:23,090 So this is the cost for a wrap-off, 902 01:20:23,090 --> 01:20:30,830 They're probably actually being in the backyard here in town hall to be collected once a week for 35 gallon containers. 903 01:20:32,330 --> 01:20:35,430 And they don't provide the signs for free, they'll give us the graphics. 904 01:20:36,330 --> 01:20:40,230 The signs in the post and the little compost bags that people can take home. 905 01:20:40,930 --> 01:20:51,330 Residents will still have a choice to go through them for a subscription service if they want to pay themselves on their own or a collection at their home. 906 01:20:51,330 --> 01:21:19,090 But this is just a cost for a weekly collection, the model of this company uses is that folks start out by using the minimal level of service or drop-off and come location, and then you look over time how much you can increase that to see whether you can get to the point of marriage, 907 01:21:19,090 --> 01:21:22,270 a curbside collection, whether it be description-based, 908 01:21:22,490 --> 01:21:24,050 being the resident case for themselves, 909 01:21:24,690 --> 01:21:27,290 or through a service paid for by the town. 910 01:21:28,510 --> 01:21:33,630 The potential for reducing your waste 911 01:21:33,630 --> 01:21:36,770 through collecting key waste is enormous. 912 01:21:37,610 --> 01:21:40,910 You are a vigilance recycler. 913 01:21:41,470 --> 01:21:46,250 You will find that if you do no composting whatsoever, 914 01:21:46,250 --> 01:21:56,450 However, the majority of what you have left in your cash is probably plastic wrap that can't be recycled by anybody anywhere or food waste. 915 01:21:56,730 --> 01:22:00,230 So this is an opportunity to sort of plant that seed and see where it goes. 916 01:22:01,410 --> 01:22:05,590 $2,900, I think in an auction itself. 917 01:22:06,210 --> 01:22:09,550 It's nothing else in the value that education benefits people around. 918 01:22:10,730 --> 01:22:11,370 Next slide, please. 919 01:22:14,580 --> 01:22:23,760 Road Repair, you know, Michelle, Mother Sharp, Professor, thank you Michelle, we have reduced 920 01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,240 what we're looking to do in road work this year. 921 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:33,960 Then when we're saying road work, we mean curves, gutters, anything associated with the 922 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:39,360 roadway that needs to be done in the professional opinion of staff and contractors at the time 923 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:47,120 done, these funds are dedicated funds that come from the state, and the portion of the 924 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:52,080 tap to Z. You collect, there is a percentage of them that goes toward the road work. So 925 01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:57,680 that as a source of these funds, we are not looking to for this particular enhancement 926 01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:04,460 to cut into any of the reserves that you have in place for this type of infrastructure work. 927 01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:09,460 It's a little less than we've done this year, but I would say it's really important 928 01:23:09,460 --> 01:23:15,280 to keep up with that process because before you got behind, you got behind and then you 929 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:21,540 ended up looking at bonds in the past and, you know, if you've done a little every year 930 01:23:21,540 --> 01:23:25,140 and keep up with it, especially if you know you have a problem in one place, it's probably 931 01:23:25,140 --> 01:23:26,480 the best way to manage this. 932 01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:36,120 The list of streets here is not completely finalized because, honestly, I don't know that we would be able to do all of these. 933 01:23:36,300 --> 01:23:42,560 The list of streets is the size that it was before we dialed this budget back in the last couple of days. 934 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:49,880 There are also a couple of ones and two things around town that will get done out of this 935 01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:57,240 and by out of a little bit of a budget that is in the budget or top of work operation itself. 936 01:24:02,170 --> 01:24:08,230 This $30,000 is not coming from general funds. 937 01:24:08,230 --> 01:24:13,950 So this is coming from the Infrastructure Fund that you have set aside to do work of this 938 01:24:13,950 --> 01:24:14,310 nature. 939 01:24:15,130 --> 01:24:26,170 So this is a proposal for $30,000 to look at carrying out some of the initiatives that 940 01:24:26,170 --> 01:24:29,750 are included in the walkable type-by-pool task force. 941 01:24:31,450 --> 01:24:36,890 staff was set up to have a meeting all together to start going through all those 942 01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:42,930 recommendations individually, but then the virus came. And we ended up turning that 943 01:24:42,930 --> 01:24:47,830 meeting into the meeting for how we're going to respond to this. So we will get 944 01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:57,170 back at that, but it probably will be a few weeks. You know we have some concerns 945 01:24:57,170 --> 01:25:04,610 about actual speed close that were included in the proposal but so I will say that 946 01:25:04,610 --> 01:25:16,010 this proposal is not for anything specific other than poor items that are listed in that task force 947 01:25:16,010 --> 01:25:31,070 report that are low hanging troops and that may be lost. I'd love it. Yes, it is. Yes, that's what I'll turn it up to the name. All right. Thank you so much. 948 01:25:31,150 --> 01:25:36,170 Thank you, brother. I'll open for discussion at this time. We'll start with Mayor Bertam Papinicholas. 949 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:45,520 Can I hear you, Jason? 950 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,100 Mayor Richem, can you unmute yourself, please? 951 01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:48,520 Thank you. 952 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:50,480 It helps the client meet. 953 01:25:50,780 --> 01:25:51,020 Okay. 954 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,140 The quick question for you, on the leaf backing, 955 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,380 is that it is a very expensive piece of equipment 956 01:25:58,380 --> 01:26:01,620 and appears to be very manpower intensive. 957 01:26:03,660 --> 01:26:05,900 I wish we could have been able to ask this on the survey, 958 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,520 but we will have to get it, I think. 959 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,420 But can we start actually finding out 960 01:26:12,420 --> 01:26:14,580 How much value residents put in it? 961 01:26:15,260 --> 01:26:19,000 Because I know at least for those of us who live on Edmundston, 962 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,900 there's very hard for that leaf back in the pick up anything. 963 01:26:23,260 --> 01:26:24,860 And I'm wondering if there's other streets in town. 964 01:26:25,780 --> 01:26:31,560 That might be a similar situation where you just don't get value for it. 965 01:26:32,340 --> 01:26:33,460 We'd be happy to. 966 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:40,100 As you know, I mean changes to always programs in actually 16 towns 967 01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:50,820 of the time. One of the ones that I worked on was in Rockville, and another one in NAMPLUS, 968 01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:56,500 and we moved from the back of Maine to people bagging their leaves and that sort of thing. 969 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:04,820 That's the thing that I understand is that's the alternative. But we would be happy to, particularly 970 01:27:04,820 --> 01:27:09,820 when we're getting into, you know, actual each season of fall, collect some data for you, 971 01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:18,440 so we can give you some anecdotal information, at least about who's banging on, and who 972 01:27:18,440 --> 01:27:21,680 is relying on us to vacuum them up. 973 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:28,880 Um, and then just a couple of quick comments, um, it seems like we've done a lot of work 974 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:33,880 on that level of work's yard. I'm awfully concerned, I'm glad we're focusing on it now, but I'm 975 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,500 not fully concerned that we've overlooked 976 01:27:36,020 --> 01:27:38,320 of course building improvements, 977 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,740 and I mean that's because it's out of the way 978 01:27:41,740 --> 01:27:42,920 and nobody notices it, 979 01:27:43,140 --> 01:27:44,760 but I'm glad to see if we focused on it 980 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:45,600 the last couple of years. 981 01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:49,300 Hopefully, do you think that this is the end of that, 982 01:27:49,500 --> 01:27:50,820 or do you think there's a little bit more 983 01:27:50,820 --> 01:27:51,880 that we have to do next year? 984 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,120 I think there's probably a little bit more 985 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:55,240 you have to do next year. 986 01:27:57,340 --> 01:27:59,180 I think we've been facing ourselves 987 01:27:59,180 --> 01:28:01,380 and doing the worst of it first. 988 01:28:05,140 --> 01:28:14,340 Many times I've had some of my offices were departments and I can tell you that because they're not open to the public, 989 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:19,100 those folks end up sort of being the stepchildren, it's their part of the funding goes. 990 01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:33,100 There's some decisions that were made over time doing some things down there that have turned out to be more costly in the end. 991 01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:42,400 You know, the softens were not petted, so we just filled them in with plywood, there's some of those decisions that we need to catch up with. 992 01:28:43,180 --> 01:28:48,860 Right now, you know, I'm focusing on the building envelope and those properties. 993 01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:59,060 So, you know, what keeps the inside and the outside out, but trying not to do anything terribly costly all the time. 994 01:29:01,110 --> 01:29:07,130 And then finally, I'll admit I was a little skeptical of the composting idea, but I've really 995 01:29:07,130 --> 01:29:07,630 come around. 996 01:29:07,810 --> 01:29:09,890 I think it's a, this company has great model. 997 01:29:10,110 --> 01:29:15,710 I love the fact that they're local, I can go 10 minutes away and get it and a college 998 01:29:15,710 --> 01:29:18,410 park has implemented it, so I've got a need for the visit. 999 01:29:20,570 --> 01:29:21,450 I agree. 1000 01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:25,850 I think, well, residents might be a little concerned with this other program. 1001 01:29:25,850 --> 01:29:28,350 I think it'll pay for itself in tipping fees alone. 1002 01:29:30,450 --> 01:29:33,550 Okay, I'm very happy to see that with that. 1003 01:29:33,730 --> 01:29:34,770 I will yield my time back. 1004 01:29:36,070 --> 01:29:38,910 Okay, thank you so much, Council Member Sweet. 1005 01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,740 Yeah, thank you for doing that. 1006 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:50,800 I'm glad to see about the insulation even though 1007 01:30:00,500 --> 01:30:09,380 So for the shipping container that is replacing the shed, is that just one container? 1008 01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:35,760 We'll keep the wind in the rain out a little better than what we've got going on down there. 1009 01:30:35,780 --> 01:30:41,240 Yeah, and it also looks like it can be locked additionally as well. 1010 01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:42,280 Absolutely. 1011 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,720 Right now, there's no lock on the tent. 1012 01:30:46,660 --> 01:30:47,160 Right, yeah. 1013 01:30:47,300 --> 01:30:52,560 I mean, unless you can somehow get past the like tart that's just straight over the entrance 1014 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:53,940 of it. 1015 01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:54,220 Yeah. 1016 01:30:55,700 --> 01:31:10,460 But yeah, other than that, I understand what based on this kind of saying about the 1017 01:31:10,460 --> 01:31:16,140 leaf collection, but I know it's not, I'd be interested in seeing some of the data that 1018 01:31:16,140 --> 01:31:22,180 we collect in the fall as opposed to how many people are using it, and that sort of thing, 1019 01:31:22,180 --> 01:31:26,400 but I know and I can echo what Murray was saying that when it was down I was getting a lot of 1020 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:31,940 calls and emails of people like asking when it was going to be fixed where it was so it was 1021 01:31:31,940 --> 01:31:38,620 deaf and for people that I normally don't hear from so I think it's I think it's 1022 01:31:39,140 --> 01:31:45,180 life enough and it's a service that's popular in our town where I think we would have to keep 1023 01:31:45,180 --> 01:31:52,080 doing it or I would be in support of continuing it even though the maintenance of those can get 1024 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:59,340 pretty spendy. Yes, sir. But what boils down to is, you know, we put the leaves on the 1025 01:31:59,340 --> 01:32:04,980 container or the residents put the leaves on the container and it's a really popular 1026 01:32:04,980 --> 01:32:13,500 service. It would be difficult to change it right now. Yeah. But that's it for me. All 1027 01:32:13,500 --> 01:32:22,380 you and Claire. Thank you so much council member Dealy. Yes thank you. A couple of my questions 1028 01:32:22,380 --> 01:32:28,440 were answered sort of thinking through the big picture of the public works facilities and stuff. 1029 01:32:28,780 --> 01:32:34,140 I think overall for me it boils down to if we've got expensive equipment it doesn't do any good to 1030 01:32:34,140 --> 01:32:40,160 not take care of it and keep it safe and present it from the elements so you know I appreciate 1031 01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:45,000 the work to make sure that we're taking care of our stuff so it lasts so that 1032 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:50,680 all makes a lot of sense to me. The other thing I'll add on to is on just as 1033 01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,200 everyone knows I'm excited about the compost program. I've heard some good 1034 01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:58,580 comments, some positive comments from folks I've spoken to about that and one 1035 01:32:58,580 --> 01:33:04,400 thing I really appreciated about compost crews, model and presentation was 1036 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:09,580 they're sort of intentional steps program right like this idea that we're 1037 01:33:09,580 --> 01:33:11,660 going to start with a central location, 1038 01:33:12,180 --> 01:33:15,220 and they weren't advocating for us to immediately go 1039 01:33:15,220 --> 01:33:19,020 to some giant complex residential pickup thing. 1040 01:33:19,260 --> 01:33:21,800 So starting out really simple with the education, 1041 01:33:22,020 --> 01:33:24,980 and I think you're right, it's paying for itself 1042 01:33:24,980 --> 01:33:28,020 potentially in tipping fees once we get this up and going. 1043 01:33:28,480 --> 01:33:31,720 And from our neighbors in college, it happened really quickly 1044 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,100 as the participation increased there. 1045 01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,120 So I'm excited about that, and I want 1046 01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,180 to thank Tom Manager for giving that research 1047 01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:45,160 And I will say Council member doing it, but my attention is to sort of keep an eye on how 1048 01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:45,720 it goes. 1049 01:33:46,100 --> 01:33:46,420 Yeah. 1050 01:33:46,860 --> 01:33:56,260 If it's the case that it does ramp up faster than we expected, so more than what you're 1051 01:33:56,260 --> 01:34:00,500 but before right now, I will bring something back to you 1052 01:34:00,500 --> 01:34:05,860 to offset some of the to pay for expansion 1053 01:34:05,860 --> 01:34:06,920 or second look page. 1054 01:34:08,060 --> 01:34:08,580 Awesome. 1055 01:34:09,060 --> 01:34:11,400 Yeah, and just that reminds me that again, 1056 01:34:11,540 --> 01:34:13,840 we talked about this and if folks didn't tune 1057 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,560 into that meeting in College Park, 1058 01:34:15,860 --> 01:34:18,300 it was something like six to eight months 1059 01:34:18,980 --> 01:34:21,640 where they had really increased the number of bins 1060 01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,300 that they had because people were excited 1061 01:34:23,300 --> 01:34:24,440 and people were participating. 1062 01:34:24,440 --> 01:34:29,540 And when we talk about tipping fees, the bottom line is that when we take our trash to 1063 01:34:29,540 --> 01:34:35,860 where it goes, it costs more per pound of trash that we throw away than it costs to do 1064 01:34:35,860 --> 01:34:36,420 other things. 1065 01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:41,400 So when we see how much trash in our trash trucks, we can think a little bit more. 1066 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:42,040 Anyway. 1067 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:42,540 Thank you. 1068 01:34:43,220 --> 01:34:44,240 It's an avoided cost. 1069 01:34:46,870 --> 01:34:47,090 All right. 1070 01:34:47,170 --> 01:34:47,710 Thank you so much. 1071 01:34:47,810 --> 01:34:48,550 Council Member Osmond. 1072 01:34:50,250 --> 01:34:55,490 Back to what my fellow council members have said in the proposals that are presented 1073 01:34:55,490 --> 01:34:56,030 to us. 1074 01:34:56,370 --> 01:35:02,690 I think for me, the movement toward a more sustainable economy and for the environment 1075 01:35:02,690 --> 01:35:07,210 and for ourselves, I think the compost is in that direction of being more sustainable 1076 01:35:07,210 --> 01:35:13,270 and the idea of reducing tipping fees is great, which brings me to the sustainable question 1077 01:35:13,270 --> 01:35:17,990 for the least and whether it's vacuum or bagged, I have some simple questions. 1078 01:35:19,670 --> 01:35:26,550 Where are the leads, what happens to the leaves after they're vacuumed or bagged, is there 1079 01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:32,170 a cost that dispose of them or do we have a yard or work off of them, is my one question 1080 01:35:32,170 --> 01:35:40,350 because I think as we move toward a more sustainable way of being, I think the cost of the vacuum 1081 01:35:40,350 --> 01:35:42,130 it's using false fuels, et cetera. 1082 01:35:42,830 --> 01:35:45,570 You know, it's not a sustainable solution. 1083 01:35:45,710 --> 01:35:46,890 It's maybe some others may be. 1084 01:35:47,530 --> 01:35:49,270 And then the other question about what happens 1085 01:35:49,270 --> 01:35:53,130 to the liauses, could the bags be something 1086 01:35:53,130 --> 01:35:55,710 that would be delivered to residents upon request? 1087 01:35:56,370 --> 01:35:59,310 And would that cost less than operating and maintaining 1088 01:35:59,310 --> 01:36:00,590 a meat vacuum? 1089 01:36:01,630 --> 01:36:02,750 I have an answer to that. 1090 01:36:03,230 --> 01:36:05,490 I'll answer your last one first. 1091 01:36:06,130 --> 01:36:09,170 For the town that provide bags to people, 1092 01:36:09,170 --> 01:36:14,410 probably cost more than this machine. Most of the bags are made by stone 1093 01:36:14,410 --> 01:36:21,450 container and the craft paper, they're pretty expensive. So, now again, you just 1094 01:36:21,450 --> 01:36:25,930 can move in the cost of one type of container being a back-and-trip to a 1095 01:36:25,930 --> 01:36:31,470 different kind of container being the bag. So, that's sort of the balance. We 1096 01:36:31,470 --> 01:36:37,770 take our leaves and our yard waste to accounting, to simply, and they are 1097 01:36:37,770 --> 01:36:44,050 windrowing them and turning them at the silliest managed by a Maryland Environmental Service, 1098 01:36:44,530 --> 01:36:54,010 which is a quasi-state organization, and all that material is bed and bagged and sold 1099 01:36:54,010 --> 01:36:54,670 as leaf girl. 1100 01:36:56,130 --> 01:36:59,770 So, when you buy leaf row, which is great stuff, by the way, anybody's going around there. 1101 01:37:00,430 --> 01:37:06,070 When you buy leaf row, you get back the stuff that you put in, and so that's what happens 1102 01:37:06,070 --> 01:37:10,970 So it's a pretty close-loop sustainable operation. 1103 01:37:12,810 --> 01:37:15,210 If you were to look to do it yourself, 1104 01:37:15,930 --> 01:37:18,270 it is very hard to permit. 1105 01:37:19,990 --> 01:37:24,270 It's very hard to get a permit to do composting yourself, 1106 01:37:24,670 --> 01:37:28,710 but we'd be particularly hard here because of our watershed 1107 01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:31,450 and because of all the setback in requirements 1108 01:37:31,450 --> 01:37:33,990 and stormwater drainage issues, 1109 01:37:34,690 --> 01:37:38,870 I don't bet that we even have a place in town on a qualifying. 1110 01:37:40,030 --> 01:37:47,070 Ideally, your food waste and your yard waste would be composted together. 1111 01:37:47,390 --> 01:37:50,410 That's the future. That is the future. 1112 01:37:50,910 --> 01:37:54,710 Despite what the salespeople for the compost crimson said, 1113 01:37:54,910 --> 01:37:59,410 that is the future. And anybody who sites an operation 1114 01:37:59,410 --> 01:38:01,430 that's only going to do yard waste right now 1115 01:38:01,430 --> 01:38:08,110 and now you are going to stand to these gaps and lose the sight of what their options are. 1116 01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:10,570 So it would be really hard for us to do ourselves. 1117 01:38:11,310 --> 01:38:15,370 We do get compost back because we use it. 1118 01:38:16,190 --> 01:38:21,370 When the folks are going to do the throughout collection, 1119 01:38:22,390 --> 01:38:26,470 I will work with them to negotiate and get some of that material back 1120 01:38:26,470 --> 01:38:28,210 so we can use it for our own town. 1121 01:38:32,570 --> 01:38:39,190 So it sounds like there's a closed-loop system that's managed in the leads and I like that. 1122 01:38:39,670 --> 01:38:46,370 And we get some form of discount on the rebind and the stuff back from them or we just get 1123 01:38:46,370 --> 01:38:48,070 it prepared because we gave them the leads. 1124 01:38:48,710 --> 01:38:49,190 How does that exchange? 1125 01:38:50,510 --> 01:38:52,790 We give it to them. 1126 01:38:53,130 --> 01:38:56,510 We pay a minimum amount for it. 1127 01:38:56,510 --> 01:39:02,670 It's, you know, we get truckloads of it that we meet for the folks with the vegetable garden. 1128 01:39:05,250 --> 01:39:07,110 What we pay is nominal. 1129 01:39:07,750 --> 01:39:12,390 It's less than paying for tipping fees at the winds of the garbage. 1130 01:39:12,930 --> 01:39:16,610 No, it's less than paying for bags and stuff that you're going to buy the same materials from home. 1131 01:39:17,050 --> 01:39:18,750 Oh, okay, I was misunderstanding. 1132 01:39:18,750 --> 01:39:28,910 So the stuff that we buy at, the ready-made bags of ever grown or whatever it's called, they buy the truck hood. 1133 01:39:29,610 --> 01:39:30,030 Okay. 1134 01:39:30,550 --> 01:39:31,490 We'll get a dump truck shop. 1135 01:39:32,130 --> 01:39:32,410 Okay. 1136 01:39:32,730 --> 01:39:32,870 All right. 1137 01:39:33,010 --> 01:39:33,290 Thank you. 1138 01:39:33,630 --> 01:39:34,630 No further questions. 1139 01:39:34,830 --> 01:39:35,030 I'll tell you. 1140 01:39:35,610 --> 01:39:36,090 Thank you. 1141 01:39:36,530 --> 01:39:37,390 Thank you so much. 1142 01:39:38,890 --> 01:39:41,450 You know, I'm just going to add to my council members. 1143 01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:46,850 I think, again, everything is very reasonable, just like Mayor Bertrand Papinecola said. 1144 01:39:46,850 --> 01:39:51,090 I was a little concerned about the compost piece, 1145 01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:53,490 but as I thought about it further 1146 01:39:54,070 --> 01:39:58,130 and saw really what College Park was doing 1147 01:39:58,130 --> 01:40:01,470 and how effective it was in College Park, 1148 01:40:01,590 --> 01:40:04,870 I was very, I'm really excited at this point 1149 01:40:04,870 --> 01:40:06,870 to see how that works with our town. 1150 01:40:07,850 --> 01:40:10,490 So I'm really in favor of that as well. 1151 01:40:11,590 --> 01:40:15,630 You know, again, really working to get public works 1152 01:40:16,850 --> 01:40:23,730 facilities and you know really up to date I think is very extremely important as 1153 01:40:23,730 --> 01:40:31,810 well and I really appreciate the walkable biteable recommendation that was 1154 01:40:31,810 --> 01:40:35,750 added into this presentation I think that's it's very reasonable but I think 1155 01:40:35,750 --> 01:40:43,270 it's I think it's very important as well with it so with that I have no no 1156 01:40:43,270 --> 01:40:49,350 concerns about it at all at this point. I'm going to open up the Florida discussion one last 1157 01:40:49,350 --> 01:40:53,150 time before we check emails or phone calls. 1158 01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,960 Okay, here you're in none. The phone number is 1159 01:40:59,960 --> 01:41:09,860 going to be 3014749570 while you're making your call if you have any. Councilmember Dewey are there 1160 01:41:09,860 --> 01:41:17,120 any emails. Yes, thank you. There is one email comment again from Jody Copa 1161 01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:21,660 Eddie on Ruitan Street and it was a comment on a question just segment a lot 1162 01:41:21,660 --> 01:41:26,720 of people rely on the leaf vacuum including seniors that can't bag them or 1163 01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:30,840 afford to hire someone to do it. So it was just a comment about the question on the 1164 01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:37,260 police. Thank you so much. 3-0-1-474-9570. 1165 01:41:39,480 --> 01:41:41,140 I really feel like we need to come to 1166 01:41:41,140 --> 01:41:44,160 a pretty good. I just treasure Rodriguez. 1167 01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:58,920 And at this point we will move on to the 1168 01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:04,660 last budget presentation that we have, and that is the police department. Before 1169 01:42:04,660 --> 01:42:11,400 we begin, Chief Anselick, I just want to just say thank you to your department and 1170 01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:17,520 to you for everything that you are doing to keep our town and our residents safe and 1171 01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:22,860 all the updates that you have for us. I think it's, you know, times like this are really 1172 01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:30,600 stressful to a lot of people and what your department is doing, we couldn't be any more proud 1173 01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:35,220 of you and your department for what you're doing to keep our town safe. So we thank you for that. 1174 01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:40,520 Thank you, Mayor. And then again, like you said, we're in this together. So we'll get through 1175 01:42:46,870 --> 01:42:50,890 Okay, I think we are ready for the Police Department's presentation. 1176 01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:55,000 Lieutenant Onger, 1177 01:42:58,580 --> 01:42:59,120 hello. 1178 01:42:59,460 --> 01:43:00,420 Everybody can hear me? 1179 01:43:01,820 --> 01:43:02,500 Yeah. 1180 01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:03,500 Good morning. 1181 01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:08,320 So we'll just start off with our mission statement as you can see here. 1182 01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:15,260 The Burrow Heights Police Department is dedicated to providing a law enforcement service established 1183 01:43:15,260 --> 01:43:20,500 by the Municipal Charter town ordinance in the Maryland law. 1184 01:43:20,500 --> 01:43:26,640 All the services are provided professionally with the best possible value for tax dollars spent. 1185 01:43:27,420 --> 01:43:34,260 The driving force of the BHPD stems from a firm commitment to be professional, innovative, 1186 01:43:34,860 --> 01:43:43,920 self-evaluate, responsive, motivated by dedication to duty to the residents, merchants and visitors of Burma Heights. 1187 01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:45,300 next 1188 01:43:47,380 --> 01:43:53,320 slide just shows our staff and current chain of command kind in a linear 1189 01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:59,580 fashion obviously chief of police at the top directly under him is administrative 1190 01:43:59,580 --> 01:44:05,860 his administrative assistant mercy around also our clerk next is me obviously 1191 01:44:05,860 --> 01:44:12,380 second command under me is currently corporal crowds detective recent 1192 01:44:12,380 --> 01:44:13,740 promoted to detective. 1193 01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:19,300 Troll commander Sergeant Rooney followed by all the officers 1194 01:44:19,300 --> 01:44:21,160 on that fall under him. 1195 01:44:22,100 --> 01:44:26,360 In addition to that, we also have public safety aid program 1196 01:44:26,830 --> 01:44:32,140 and intern programs that are headed by Clark Morales 1197 01:44:32,140 --> 01:44:34,520 and Corporal Crafts. 1198 01:44:38,350 --> 01:44:40,750 We all just like to talk briefly about some 1199 01:44:40,750 --> 01:44:44,730 of the major programs and events that we dedicate 1200 01:44:44,730 --> 01:44:49,430 to our citizens and business owners of the town, most of you are familiar with 1201 01:44:49,430 --> 01:44:51,650 National Night Out, how that we do. 1202 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,240 We've done cocoa with the pogo, senior citizen appreciation lunch ins. 1203 01:45:07,380 --> 01:45:28,700 We also offer training to some of our local merchants and businesses, i.e. active shooter trainings. We've conducted a couple of those for folks in the past. We also work on public service announcement videos. We just recently finished one with off server Fino. 1204 01:45:28,700 --> 01:45:33,680 in regards to April being women's month. 1205 01:45:35,220 --> 01:45:37,840 We've also held multi-cultural events, 1206 01:45:38,380 --> 01:45:41,740 like I said previously about our PSA program 1207 01:45:42,260 --> 01:45:43,560 in our intern programs. 1208 01:45:44,220 --> 01:45:46,160 Like I said, these are just a few that we create 1209 01:45:46,780 --> 01:45:49,800 and we certainly dedicated management for, 1210 01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:52,180 like I said, our residents and business owners of it. 1211 01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:56,820 Moving on, we're just going to roll right into 1212 01:45:56,820 --> 01:46:04,080 our enhancements for 2021. First one being the new Ford hybrid police 1213 01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:08,520 interceptor. I think you're going to start seeing more of these being utilized 1214 01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:14,040 by police departments. You're going to slowly see them trickling out. It is a 1215 01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:20,600 hybrid. So what that means is it uses both gas and electric power. Now where it 1216 01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:29,660 really is beneficial to us in the town is at slow speeds when it's idling is 1217 01:46:30,140 --> 01:46:35,400 personally using the fuel so it's hard to see on the slide but you can see it 1218 01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:39,500 it's available online as well if you go to Ford's website you can see the 1219 01:46:39,500 --> 01:46:46,140 breakdown versus regular fuel versus a hybrid and you can see roughly the big 1220 01:46:46,140 --> 01:46:51,020 number is it'll save you about 930 gallons of fuel a year as to make it. 1221 01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:54,020 So the 1222 01:46:54,020 --> 01:47:00,060 total cost for that is $50,800. That would be fully equipped, marked, light, 1223 01:47:00,440 --> 01:47:03,700 siren, all the stuff that's that we need. 1224 01:47:06,500 --> 01:47:07,900 We can move on to the next one. 1225 01:47:10,480 --> 01:47:14,600 Something we think is important for the police department. This is something 1226 01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:19,240 we're asking. It's a new enhancements, a new, it would be a new budget-prime item. 1227 01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:25,420 And that is second language pay or Spanish language pay benefit. 1228 01:47:27,020 --> 01:47:33,140 The work that went into prior to is, and I don't know if everyone has it, but Clark 1229 01:47:33,140 --> 01:47:40,940 Rallis contacted other police departments in the area and we compiled a spreadsheet 1230 01:47:40,940 --> 01:47:45,640 to just compare and look at what other agencies are doing. 1231 01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:53,460 We think it's beneficial to us, we think it's a great hiring tool, and we also think it's 1232 01:47:53,460 --> 01:47:56,320 going to help us, you know, as far as retention. 1233 01:47:58,740 --> 01:48:07,100 More and more, right now we have two employees, obviously, that we have Verfino, who speaks 1234 01:48:07,100 --> 01:48:12,480 two languages that we have, sort of Morales, who speaks Spanish, and I can tell you, we 1235 01:48:12,480 --> 01:48:13,780 their services a lot. 1236 01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:20,000 It's I think as far as Spanish-speaking folks I think it's 1237 01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:25,700 more and more moving into Burbank Heights and I just think it's something that's 1238 01:48:25,700 --> 01:48:26,860 necessary in need. 1239 01:48:35,510 --> 01:48:42,470 Asking for replacement body arm obviously you know these 1240 01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:46,830 best-state lives they can certainly prevent fatal injuries due to firearms and 1241 01:48:46,830 --> 01:48:55,990 or knives and these are replacement vests. If you didn't know the vests do expire they 1242 01:48:55,990 --> 01:49:04,230 have an expiration date mainly because the just due to break down the Kevlar wears out 1243 01:49:04,230 --> 01:49:12,150 over time just because of sweat, just the elements it just breaks down the capability 1244 01:49:12,150 --> 01:49:19,110 of the Kevlar. In the picture you can kind of see two different styles. Those of 1245 01:49:19,110 --> 01:49:24,150 these are worn by our officer. The one on the left is typically worn under the 1246 01:49:24,150 --> 01:49:28,650 uniform shirt and the one on the right is typically worn over top of the 1247 01:49:28,650 --> 01:49:33,430 shirt and the one on the right, obviously you can attach items that are 1248 01:49:33,430 --> 01:49:39,170 necessary so it alleviates some of the weight when one officer's hips. So it's 1249 01:49:39,170 --> 01:49:42,870 It's just really reference for our officers how they would like to wear them. 1250 01:49:43,450 --> 01:49:48,550 But roughly they are about $1,000 a piece, so we're looking to replace, like I said, two 1251 01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:48,870 of those. 1252 01:49:50,510 --> 01:49:51,230 So we can move them. 1253 01:49:55,290 --> 01:49:59,710 The next enhancement would be one time purchase of kind of in order here. 1254 01:50:00,830 --> 01:50:05,150 Portable radios, what we use in the left, that's what officers wear on their hips. 1255 01:50:06,590 --> 01:50:14,290 The Saturn picture is a new radio for the new vehicle that is the radio that goes inside 1256 01:50:14,290 --> 01:50:20,690 the car and then also for the far right you can see an MBT mobile data terminal. 1257 01:50:21,470 --> 01:50:28,570 Obviously we all know the vehicle is the officer's office and that computer is important 1258 01:50:28,570 --> 01:50:31,570 to be able to do their job when they're out on the road. 1259 01:50:31,570 --> 01:50:40,290 And obviously the radius we know is that vital tool that's our line of communication that's our safety for our officers. 1260 01:50:41,330 --> 01:50:45,850 That is a cost of $12,000 combined, you know, for all three. 1261 01:50:53,420 --> 01:51:00,520 Locality pay, if you didn't know, we already offer that to officers who reside within five miles of the town. 1262 01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,580 It's an existing line item. 1263 01:51:03,580 --> 01:51:05,580 we're just asking for an increase. 1264 01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:10,740 Our newest officer, if you didn't know, he lives within 1265 01:51:10,740 --> 01:51:16,480 five miles, so he is privy to that benefit. So that's where we have to just raise that 1266 01:51:16,480 --> 01:51:23,080 line. By $2,400, so you can receive the locality pack. And obviously that's a big benefit 1267 01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:27,880 having folks that live close to Birmingham Heights. And that's just great, a lot of times 1268 01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,220 need, etc. 1269 01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:40,900 I don't want to align with that. Our newest officer typically all our officers typically 1270 01:51:40,900 --> 01:51:49,480 do a year of probation and after that year of successful probation is an automatic promotion from 1271 01:51:49,480 --> 01:51:58,840 private to PFC and that's at a cost of $1,300 for our newest officer upon the complete successful 1272 01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,420 probationary period. 1273 01:52:09,820 --> 01:52:14,720 We are looking to replace the neighborhood bus trailer. If 1274 01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:22,160 you don't know, the current trailer is dilapidated. It's, you know, falling apart. It's 1275 01:52:22,700 --> 01:52:28,020 leaking, you know, it has roof leaks. Things that shut up in our opening things, that 1276 01:52:28,020 --> 01:52:32,540 clothes are really closing the way they should. So we're looking to replace that with just a 1277 01:52:32,540 --> 01:52:38,920 newer model of the picture you see is it's slightly shorter trailer. It's also 1278 01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:44,620 that it comes to a beam in the front. The replacement would be about five to about 1279 01:52:44,620 --> 01:52:52,040 six thousand dollars. In addition to that the new trailer would have lights on the 1280 01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:58,020 outside. I believe it has more options for electricity, spots for generators, 1281 01:52:58,020 --> 01:53:03,620 et cetera, something that I think would just be more useful when we need it. 1282 01:53:09,480 --> 01:53:14,960 And the last thing I'd like to talk about is the public safety taxing district. 1283 01:53:15,480 --> 01:53:16,440 What is it? 1284 01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:22,260 You can see here it's just a special public safety taxing district, it's an area within 1285 01:53:22,260 --> 01:53:28,880 the corporate limits of the town of Irving Heights, it's created by town ordinance, and it's 1286 01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:33,420 It's designed to enhance police fire protection and rescue services. 1287 01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:36,840 This isn't something new, this is already existing. 1288 01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:42,640 What we're asking to do is just take some of that money and put it in other areas 1289 01:53:43,180 --> 01:53:45,480 where we think it would be more beneficial. 1290 01:53:46,860 --> 01:53:53,580 If you move on to the next slide, you can just kind of see where we're looking to move some of that money. 1291 01:53:54,500 --> 01:54:01,720 Previously, I was kind of the officer in that, you know, assigned to that area, a political 1292 01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:07,900 press, like I said, has taken my position on that, or working on meetings and stuff with 1293 01:54:07,900 --> 01:54:14,980 the merchants and the business owners, who are directly affected by this tax, and where 1294 01:54:14,980 --> 01:54:20,700 we think it's useful, but obviously, do use a convention and training, we think it's essential 1295 01:54:20,700 --> 01:54:26,620 to get the technical grass trained up as a detective so we think that money can be really 1296 01:54:26,620 --> 01:54:34,380 beneficial in those areas, gas is oil, we don't know what gas prices are going to do right 1297 01:54:34,380 --> 01:54:39,500 now they're super low but we just like to be safe and anticipate you know many rise to that 1298 01:54:40,060 --> 01:54:40,500 area, 1299 01:54:42,730 --> 01:54:49,350 the remaining money going in capital outlet can be used for equipment different tools and 1300 01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:54,210 And then obviously, whatever's left is people were thrown into uniforms just to help 1301 01:54:54,210 --> 01:54:58,290 with costs in regards to uniforms and equipment. 1302 01:55:01,500 --> 01:55:09,140 That is the end of our slideshow or budget presentation and I yield my time to the floor. 1303 01:55:09,980 --> 01:55:11,080 Thank you so much. 1304 01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:11,880 We appreciate it. 1305 01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:15,720 We'll open a discussion starting with Mayor Bratana Poppanoeklos. 1306 01:55:16,980 --> 01:55:17,760 All right. 1307 01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:24,450 What question did I don't remember, and this is either one for Chief Lieutenant 1308 01:55:24,450 --> 01:55:29,870 Onger, maybe Maria, how much more expensive is a hybrid versus a standard 1309 01:55:29,870 --> 01:55:30,730 transmission? 1310 01:55:35,370 --> 01:55:37,550 The data do I go and answer that there. 1311 01:55:39,910 --> 01:55:42,890 You know I don't I don't recall 1312 01:55:42,890 --> 01:55:48,710 I don't have anything in front of me, but it's it's I know looking back at last 1313 01:55:48,710 --> 01:55:53,150 last year's budget it was significant. Last year's budget we were looking at the Dodge 1314 01:55:53,750 --> 01:56:00,330 the ragas and I know compared to those it was maybe about $8,000 difference. I want to 1315 01:56:00,330 --> 01:56:08,010 set or is it going to be slightly more expensive but I'm sorry I don't have the number to 1316 01:56:08,010 --> 01:56:14,490 try me but I'm sure I can get that to you. I don't remember the exact number but I do 1317 01:56:14,490 --> 01:56:21,790 You know that the style of driving that's done in town, not necessarily 1318 01:56:21,790 --> 01:56:25,970 commuting, but in town, perfectly suited to the way a hybrid works. 1319 01:56:26,450 --> 01:56:30,150 You know, when you apply the brakes to recharge the battery, if you're doing 1320 01:56:30,150 --> 01:56:33,970 the top of no driving, this is what those are made for. 1321 01:56:34,470 --> 01:56:38,310 And I don't remember the exact price, but we'd be happy to get that for you. 1322 01:56:38,850 --> 01:56:43,970 I was nearly curious because as much as an underpoint out, we're going to 1323 01:56:43,970 --> 01:56:48,230 say money on the back end with gas, I was just wondering how quickly that price 1324 01:56:48,230 --> 01:56:54,670 difference would pay for itself. My guess is two to three years. That's probably 1325 01:56:54,670 --> 01:56:58,170 what I would guess is, but we'd be happy to do that research if you want. 1326 01:56:58,750 --> 01:57:04,090 Cool. It's just a thing that I was interested in, especially, but I agree that 1327 01:57:04,090 --> 01:57:09,190 hybrids are much more suited for the type of stuff we do in town. I know I've 1328 01:57:09,190 --> 01:57:12,930 heard both chief and the number I think in the past 1329 01:57:12,930 --> 01:57:17,270 complained that you have to drive the other cars on the 1330 01:57:17,270 --> 01:57:20,230 highway really not family change. 1331 01:57:21,330 --> 01:57:23,870 So I'm glad to hear we're going to Hyberts. 1332 01:57:24,110 --> 01:57:27,130 I am interested in getting a number eventually on how 1333 01:57:27,130 --> 01:57:27,830 quickly to pay. 1334 01:57:29,330 --> 01:57:32,850 Second language pay I know is increasingly becoming 1335 01:57:32,850 --> 01:57:38,170 important in the community. I'm glad to see that we are offering 1336 01:57:38,170 --> 01:57:44,510 benefit I think it makes it much more competitive with other towns and I would 1337 01:57:44,510 --> 01:57:48,730 finally just like to point out that even though it sounds like we're adding a 1338 01:57:48,730 --> 01:57:52,330 lot of stuff to the budget because we're not buying a second car I believe our 1339 01:57:52,330 --> 01:57:55,430 budget is lower this year. My understanding correct? 1340 01:57:56,990 --> 01:58:05,010 Tech of ES. Okay. Cool. I will yield my time back. Okay, thank you so much 1341 01:58:05,010 --> 01:58:05,690 count them up personally. 1342 01:58:10,290 --> 01:58:15,170 I would also like to express my gratitude for coming up with the 1343 01:58:15,170 --> 01:58:21,490 second language pay. I think that is a really great thing. I don't have, I think we got it at 1344 01:58:21,490 --> 01:58:28,930 a previous work session, like what other towns around us are offering their employees first 1345 01:58:28,930 --> 01:58:37,490 second language, but I don't have it. So this like $2,500 per person per year is about on like an average 1346 01:58:37,490 --> 01:58:46,450 really area. I can actually go to that council. However, as you know that some other agencies 1347 01:58:46,450 --> 01:58:51,470 or allied agencies are paying less than what we're recommending. However, their starting 1348 01:58:51,470 --> 01:58:57,270 pay is tremendously more than what we're starting on our clerk. 1349 01:58:59,970 --> 01:59:10,130 And then is there some sort of like fluency test or something like that to get the second 1350 01:59:10,130 --> 01:59:12,490 language pay or how is that to turn? 1351 01:59:13,770 --> 01:59:19,390 Yes, the town manager and myself will discuss that in regards to certain type of qualification. 1352 01:59:22,510 --> 01:59:26,870 And then I guess like this is probably an obvious question if I put one and two together, 1353 01:59:27,070 --> 01:59:29,110 but this is like her second language. 1354 01:59:29,390 --> 01:59:34,890 So someone was fluent in a language, like in a different language that maybe wasn't 1355 01:59:34,890 --> 01:59:35,350 Spanish. 1356 01:59:35,650 --> 01:59:40,290 Like friends who are Portuguese or something would that, they would then be eligible for the 1357 01:59:40,290 --> 01:59:41,530 second language as well. 1358 01:59:42,450 --> 01:59:47,330 That could be for a further discussion, but right now Spanish is the most criminal language 1359 01:59:47,330 --> 01:59:50,570 which we are utilizing our Florida police officer. 1360 02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:16,200 Also, if you don't speak Portuguese, say, resolution, Spanish. So, she's trilingual, or I like to call it polyglot. But that, but right now we're going to just be focusing on the Spanish abilities. 1361 02:00:16,740 --> 02:00:20,780 Oh my God, it's a really fun word. Thank you for the second. 1362 02:00:23,260 --> 02:00:27,200 But yeah, that's all I've 1363 02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:31,160 got on you. Thank you so much, Council Member Dewey. 1364 02:00:33,580 --> 02:00:39,500 Yes, thank you. I don't want to add much more on the items already discussed, but I think 1365 02:00:39,500 --> 02:00:45,400 almost all of these are sort of either in the category of basic stuff and basic equipment 1366 02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:49,080 that we need, or we need to be able to retain and 1367 02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:52,040 compensate people in a way that makes us competitive so 1368 02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:55,100 we can have our talent in compared to our community. 1369 02:00:55,860 --> 02:00:58,420 So I think that all makes sense to me, although these 1370 02:00:58,420 --> 02:00:59,300 questions are all good. 1371 02:00:59,920 --> 02:01:02,400 The thing that it sort of stands out to me that I was hoping 1372 02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:05,380 to give an update on was the trailer, because I know we had 1373 02:01:05,380 --> 02:01:08,060 a discussion at a work session about that. 1374 02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:10,080 I know lots has gone on since then. 1375 02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:11,060 That was unexpected. 1376 02:01:12,340 --> 02:01:18,920 But I think sort of at that meeting, at least my takeaway was, for the trailer to make 1377 02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:19,260 sense. 1378 02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:24,420 We also at the same time have to think through the neighborhood watch, and if that group 1379 02:01:24,420 --> 02:01:29,360 at this point is able to function so that right now it makes sense to be investing in something 1380 02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:30,300 like that or not. 1381 02:01:30,780 --> 02:01:35,080 So I just wonder if I could get an update and maybe the update is that there is no update. 1382 02:01:37,020 --> 02:01:39,380 I can answer that, hopefully. 1383 02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:48,080 The neighborhood watch, I constantly communicate with mygadic, a lot of the items inside the 1384 02:01:48,080 --> 02:01:54,260 trailer right now, we basically take it and make the personal potential equipment for 1385 02:01:54,260 --> 02:01:54,800 our officers. 1386 02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:56,780 So when you listen to that a lot, we thank you. 1387 02:01:57,260 --> 02:02:02,940 They would watch the personnel for making sure that there are equipment there, that now 1388 02:02:02,940 --> 02:02:10,340 we are utilizing through this pandemic. But as far as moving on, that is something that we're 1389 02:02:10,340 --> 02:02:18,080 trying to have further conversation with the personnel from neighborhood watch as well as 1390 02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:25,080 off the crowds who is in charge of that force of the town manager. Right now, of course, 1391 02:02:25,080 --> 02:02:34,000 is very low percentage as far as membership, but I'm confident that as we move on later 1392 02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:39,760 in the future, hopefully, that we will people be interested in that program. 1393 02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:49,980 Mr. Mayor, if I can add to that, the piece of equipment that was brought up the first 1394 02:02:52,680 --> 02:02:59,860 not the right size and not exactly the right thing to be used practically. Now even sort 1395 02:02:59,860 --> 02:03:03,780 of moving where it was easy to move it but it's too long to make it around the corners 1396 02:03:05,060 --> 02:03:11,760 and you know I think there is an interest on the police department's part to make this 1397 02:03:12,360 --> 02:03:19,480 new piece of equipment one that has a little bit more tactical application so that if there 1398 02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:25,200 or in a situation where they need some support from some equipment, whether it's the equipment 1399 02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:31,180 that exists in there now or some other, that they have a good way to transport it 1400 02:03:31,180 --> 02:03:34,260 and a good way to store things that keeps it out of the web. 1401 02:03:34,740 --> 02:03:39,520 You know, the move to look into something that has lights on it and 1402 02:03:41,060 --> 02:03:46,220 you know, set up more functionally with the way the generator works is smart idea. 1403 02:03:47,300 --> 02:03:53,120 From the budgetary standard point, you know, thank you to Court of Harvard for asking 1404 02:03:53,120 --> 02:03:58,320 to go back and find what piece of legislation the Council actually asked that said that 1405 02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:04,260 the money had to stay within the compliance of funding was trailer. 1406 02:04:04,900 --> 02:04:10,640 So there was never really a piece of legislation that went along with it if there was no kind 1407 02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:11,140 of funding. 1408 02:04:11,140 --> 02:04:21,640 So the, what has been happening is that money that was not spent during the fiscal year 1409 02:04:22,100 --> 02:04:27,980 by the neighborhood watch organization was being put into the only dedicated account 1410 02:04:27,980 --> 02:04:35,060 that you have for the role over to purchase a trailer. 1411 02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:39,000 That amount of funding for our exceeds at this point, 1412 02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:42,540 the cost of the trailer that the police department is proposing to buy. 1413 02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:51,600 What I have proposed to the council is taking this trailer and putting it in the vehicle 1414 02:04:51,600 --> 02:05:00,580 maintenance fund schedule so that it has a non-useful life or a projective useful life, 1415 02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:03,960 something that you're monitoring the way that we have it with the current trailer. 1416 02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:10,320 and that you buy the trailer as specced out by the police department and all 1417 02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:14,500 work folks say obviously whoever's left the neighborhood watch but the remainder 1418 02:05:14,500 --> 02:05:19,260 of the funding because it's almost double what you really need to go back into 1419 02:05:19,260 --> 02:05:25,140 the vehicle the place that fund to be used towards other vehicles in the future and 1420 02:05:25,140 --> 02:05:31,160 that that rollover of the funding from funding not used by neighborhood watch 1421 02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:51,580 will discontinue. So this trailer becomes a piece of more equipment just like every other piece of little board put in the town, that becomes part of the vehicle replacement fund and the certain amount of money to put in the budget each year towards its replacement once it's used to light this up. 1422 02:05:55,040 --> 02:06:01,240 And I would like to add real brief, I will say the new, we received one of the hybrid vehicles 1423 02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:05,800 from last year's buzzer, we're still waiting on the second one for, it's obviously way 1424 02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:10,020 behind in the production of those vehicles because of the demand, but I will say the new 1425 02:06:10,020 --> 02:06:17,040 vehicle is already equipped with a hitch, which will make us able to move that trailer, which 1426 02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:17,420 is good. 1427 02:06:17,680 --> 02:06:22,580 Obviously in the past we hadn't utilized public works to help us move that around, so that's 1428 02:06:22,580 --> 02:06:24,880 and obviously another event that I just wanted to mention. 1429 02:06:28,300 --> 02:06:31,020 Thank you for that contact, I appreciate it. 1430 02:06:33,900 --> 02:06:35,540 Thank you for the council member. 1431 02:06:36,020 --> 02:06:36,980 No, that's it. 1432 02:06:37,540 --> 02:06:39,820 All right, thank you, council member Osmond. 1433 02:06:42,320 --> 02:06:46,020 Yes, thank you Chief, okay, no, you're on a big believer 1434 02:06:46,020 --> 02:06:47,440 in support of local policing. 1435 02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:50,080 The close to the police are, the community is better. 1436 02:06:50,600 --> 02:06:53,280 And so I appreciate your work in putting together 1437 02:06:53,280 --> 02:06:58,860 the advancements for the budget and support all of them. I do have a couple of 1438 02:06:58,860 --> 02:07:08,160 thoughts. The trailer for emergency preparedness, I've never quite understood when 1439 02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:13,540 the town first got that, why we had it and what's in it, but I believe in 1440 02:07:13,540 --> 02:07:17,980 emergency preparedness. So chiefly you said you're using equipment from that trailer 1441 02:07:17,980 --> 02:07:23,160 now. May I ask what specific equipment are you using from the trailer? There 1442 02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:28,380 There were several bloods, Tyvex soup, blankets, goggles. 1443 02:07:29,460 --> 02:07:35,180 We were able to put together equipment that a lot of police department was actually 1444 02:07:35,180 --> 02:07:40,100 waiting for Prince George's County to come up and replace or help them out. 1445 02:07:40,420 --> 02:07:46,500 So before we were waiting for the Prince George's County to supply us with some masks, we were 1446 02:07:46,500 --> 02:07:51,500 ever put together a package for all broadcasters for our co-personnel and 1447 02:07:51,500 --> 02:07:58,020 Burden Heights and some for the time manager and her personnel as well as some 1448 02:07:58,020 --> 02:08:04,580 other ally agency. As you know there's a lot of equipment in there that we can 1449 02:08:04,580 --> 02:08:11,780 use such as stretchers blankets first aid equipment so there was a lot of 1450 02:08:11,780 --> 02:08:16,140 useful equipment that we have taken from the trailer. 1451 02:08:17,600 --> 02:08:22,320 All right, that's good to know. Thank you, Chief. And so the replacement of that equipment 1452 02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:24,380 is that included in a bunch of announcements? 1453 02:08:26,780 --> 02:08:33,780 Actually, that would be with the neighborhood watch budget in itself that they're not 1454 02:08:33,780 --> 02:08:39,040 asking for any additional. But of course, they could use that budget that's there now 1455 02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:41,260 to replace what's been taken. 1456 02:08:42,360 --> 02:08:45,100 All right, and I think the idea of having it more tactical 1457 02:08:45,100 --> 02:08:47,760 small than with the lights to the generator as explained 1458 02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:51,400 to us during the work session was very positive. 1459 02:08:51,720 --> 02:08:54,980 So thank you again for your budget. 1460 02:08:55,540 --> 02:08:56,780 I have nothing further. 1461 02:08:57,140 --> 02:08:58,120 I support it. 1462 02:08:59,200 --> 02:08:59,880 I yield. 1463 02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:02,280 Thank you so much. 1464 02:09:03,360 --> 02:09:06,560 And you know, I really have no additional comments. 1465 02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:19,660 I think Councilmember Duane kind of hit everything that I was going to say and ask, you know, just that I'm in full support of all of it, you know, including the trailer itself. 1466 02:09:19,980 --> 02:09:25,340 So at this point, I'm going to open up one final discussion before we go to email and phone. 1467 02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:30,800 Are there any additional discussion items or discussion from the council? 1468 02:09:34,090 --> 02:09:46,290 Seeing none, again, the phone number is 30147495703014749570, while people are dialing 1469 02:09:46,290 --> 02:09:49,430 if there are any, how's the member, do we, are there any emails? 1470 02:09:50,810 --> 02:09:52,270 Yes, we do have an email. 1471 02:09:52,790 --> 02:09:58,170 This is three questions from Jody Kulpa, Eddie Onrootans Street, so I'll just read all 1472 02:09:58,170 --> 02:10:01,650 three, so that way, whoever wants to take them, can take in whatever order. 1473 02:10:01,650 --> 02:10:07,210 The first question is just clarifying if the language pay is one time or an 1474 02:10:07,210 --> 02:10:13,990 increase annually. That personal salary. Second question is, the last time best 1475 02:10:13,990 --> 02:10:17,490 were purchased, she thought they were through a grant. She wanted to know if 1476 02:10:17,490 --> 02:10:22,190 that was still possible. And finally, that trailer replacement will come from the 1477 02:10:22,190 --> 02:10:27,030 reserve fund, correct. So just confirming that. So if anyone could take those. 1478 02:10:30,190 --> 02:10:37,730 I could take the language you could take the other, the language would be an add-on, not just a one-time deal. 1479 02:10:39,690 --> 02:10:47,570 It's a benefit. I think that would be something of grateful use to retention and approval. 1480 02:10:51,940 --> 02:11:00,400 As far as the escot, I can tell you undoubtedly that at the police department we look and we try to utilize any 1481 02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:07,560 in all grants that are available out there. Just recently I was able to obtain it 1482 02:11:07,560 --> 02:11:13,340 but ran through the jet recently for additional body cameras so we do look at 1483 02:11:13,340 --> 02:11:18,880 that unfortunately we do not as far as this purchase for the best we do not have 1484 02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:23,400 a grant right now that's not to say that something's not you know won't be 1485 02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:27,860 available in the future but unfortunately right now as far as I know there's no 1486 02:11:27,860 --> 02:11:34,540 so grants available at the moment from Vess in the trailer replacement. 1487 02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:37,080 I don't believe that was already answered. 1488 02:11:37,500 --> 02:11:43,320 I think that was paid for or will be paid for by funds that were already there. 1489 02:11:45,580 --> 02:11:53,400 When there's a valic grants out there, definitely we would go out there and try to utilize that. 1490 02:11:53,400 --> 02:12:04,960 I mean, you've got a grant to train Australophena in the academy, we've got grants for the body cameras, and what else have we got in grants for? 1491 02:12:06,440 --> 02:12:12,820 We have the Secret Service grant that we get yearly, we will be on the task force. 1492 02:12:12,820 --> 02:12:16,600 So we drive this to see any type of grants. 1493 02:12:18,960 --> 02:12:21,520 Right now, let's see if we can see. 1494 02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:23,140 Thank 1495 02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:29,320 you so much. 1496 02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:31,480 At this point, we will open the phone lines. 1497 02:12:33,920 --> 02:12:35,160 301474-9570. 1498 02:12:47,720 --> 02:12:48,960 301474-9570. 1499 02:12:55,660 --> 02:12:55,700 Okay. 1500 02:12:56,260 --> 02:13:02,560 Hearing none, at this point, we have finished with our budget presentations 1501 02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:06,600 And at this time, we will be taking a 10 minute break. 1502 02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:10,760 Right now, it is 11.14, or we're going to break about 11.15. 1503 02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:15,300 Let's come back at 11.25 during this time. 1504 02:13:15,500 --> 02:13:19,280 If you could mute yourself as well as turn off your video 1505 02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:23,180 at this time, but we will return at 11.25. 1506 02:24:06,320 --> 02:24:14,080 I'm just going to do a quick check-in to make sure everyone is present of Mayor Pro-10, 1507 02:24:14,200 --> 02:24:19,020 Papa Nicholas. We'll do a sound check real quick. Mayor Pro-10, can you hear me? 1508 02:24:22,550 --> 02:24:22,910 Council 1509 02:24:22,910 --> 02:24:29,650 members, sweet. Looks like he's. I'm here. Wonderful. Thank you. Council Member Dewey. 1510 02:24:32,200 --> 02:24:37,760 Council Member Osmond. Here. Okay. And then we have the town manager brought that. 1511 02:24:40,260 --> 02:24:45,160 All right, and everyone else, welcome back. Thank you so much for being prompt with us. 1512 02:24:46,040 --> 02:24:54,980 Next up, we are at our budget summary. So right now, we're on the FY21 budget spreadsheet 1513 02:24:54,980 --> 02:24:59,740 as well as the proposed budget and the PowerPoint itself. 1514 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:05,380 So I'm going to turn this over to Town Manager Bruffett, who will give us additional information. 1515 02:25:06,020 --> 02:25:06,760 Thank you. 1516 02:25:07,100 --> 02:25:09,720 Clerk Harper, if you could put up the PowerPoint presentation. 1517 02:25:17,920 --> 02:25:18,160 Okay. 1518 02:25:18,600 --> 02:25:21,060 And this time, I want to make sure that 1519 02:25:21,880 --> 02:25:24,560 Treasure Rodriguez is with us. 1520 02:25:27,130 --> 02:25:27,770 He's in here. 1521 02:25:28,450 --> 02:25:28,730 Alrighty. 1522 02:25:29,630 --> 02:25:30,030 Okay. 1523 02:25:34,270 --> 02:25:35,530 A little bit of 1524 02:25:38,180 --> 02:25:42,720 recap of my experience here 1525 02:25:42,720 --> 02:25:52,610 the last year and a half or so when I started, you know, Michelle 1526 02:25:52,610 --> 02:25:55,510 I wasn't really working on building the budget. 1527 02:25:56,010 --> 02:25:59,190 It wasn't expected of her. 1528 02:26:00,470 --> 02:26:03,830 And I really want to acknowledge the heavy lifting 1529 02:26:03,830 --> 02:26:08,170 that Michelle has done not only just 1530 02:26:08,170 --> 02:26:11,770 to learn this process to put up with me, 1531 02:26:12,990 --> 02:26:19,430 but also to really make it so that these slides are 1532 02:26:19,430 --> 02:26:22,510 or something that everybody can see. 1533 02:26:23,170 --> 02:26:25,530 And we've got comparisons from one year, the other, 1534 02:26:25,710 --> 02:26:28,150 and some history and some sort of background. 1535 02:26:28,710 --> 02:26:30,530 I mean, there are a lot of things in sort of the purchasing 1536 02:26:30,530 --> 02:26:31,010 world. 1537 02:26:31,770 --> 02:26:33,390 We would kind of do it organically. 1538 02:26:34,710 --> 02:26:37,690 Now we had much more of a connection 1539 02:26:37,690 --> 02:26:40,730 between how people are spending money 1540 02:26:40,730 --> 02:26:42,350 and the budget that was approved. 1541 02:26:43,210 --> 02:26:45,030 We have more work to do on the front. 1542 02:26:45,030 --> 02:26:55,030 And you can work on your fiscal policies and processes for your entire life and never have 1543 02:26:55,030 --> 02:26:56,350 them be just what you want. 1544 02:26:56,850 --> 02:27:02,870 So there's always a lot of work to do, but we've, you know, a little bit of tweaks here 1545 02:27:02,870 --> 02:27:03,090 now. 1546 02:27:03,090 --> 02:27:04,230 We've had clean audits. 1547 02:27:04,770 --> 02:27:06,750 But I really want to say thank you, Michelle. 1548 02:27:07,630 --> 02:27:14,310 She and I were sent stuff back towards each other as late as 9 o'clock or 9'30 last 1549 02:27:14,310 --> 02:27:22,490 so we built a budget and then we toured part and we built it over again when all 1550 02:27:22,490 --> 02:27:28,650 those virus business started coming along. With that said, I'm going to go 1551 02:27:28,650 --> 02:27:37,470 through these slides and talk to you a little bit about our fall process and I'm 1552 02:27:37,470 --> 02:27:42,570 gonna ask that Michelle if you have something that you want to comment on or 1553 02:27:42,570 --> 02:27:49,530 something that we discussed and I just missed it, you know, jump in. So start with the first 1554 02:27:49,530 --> 02:28:00,770 slide, first of 13 here, just to give you a visual of the change in the revenue. Our 1555 02:28:01,090 --> 02:28:09,150 revenue for the general funds is going up by $60,000. Some of that is the increased property 1556 02:28:09,150 --> 02:28:19,890 evaluation, we do a constant yield budget here, so no real changes there, the increase. 1557 02:28:21,650 --> 02:28:28,330 And also, we'll say the smaller your town is, and the smaller your budget is, the more 1558 02:28:28,330 --> 02:28:30,290 any change makes a huge difference. 1559 02:28:31,070 --> 02:28:36,730 Whether it be a staff, if I'd only have one of somebody that does something really special, 1560 02:28:36,730 --> 02:28:40,010 So, if I work in a much bigger community, I might have five of those. 1561 02:28:41,010 --> 02:28:43,910 And I might be able to spare one and only have four. 1562 02:28:44,430 --> 02:28:47,550 Here, if you've only got one, you know, everything that everybody does, 1563 02:28:48,030 --> 02:28:53,570 and everything that we put in this budget, we look at it from zero-based, 1564 02:28:54,250 --> 02:28:58,830 meaning we look at it from starting from zero dollars. 1565 02:28:59,250 --> 02:29:03,450 What does it cost to provide the service that you, 1566 02:29:03,450 --> 02:29:11,690 One, we have to provide, one you want to provide, and one, you know, we'd love to if you could. 1567 02:29:12,190 --> 02:29:15,710 So we start from zero, and that's how we go with this budget. 1568 02:29:16,390 --> 02:29:28,170 And then we went back again over the last week and got really pussy and really prudent, and we reduced it more than you're, 1569 02:29:29,070 --> 02:29:30,810 than what you're seeing for the first time. 1570 02:29:31,470 --> 02:29:32,250 All right, next slide, please. 1571 02:29:36,510 --> 02:29:41,150 Okay, so here is your, the highlights for the spending. 1572 02:29:42,530 --> 02:29:49,510 We have kept it, you know, as close as we could. 1573 02:29:50,150 --> 02:29:55,290 So there's a $273,000 increase, and this is operating in capital. 1574 02:29:56,310 --> 02:29:58,490 Change of increases 7%. 1575 02:29:59,230 --> 02:29:59,630 Okay. 1576 02:29:59,630 --> 02:29:59,770 Okay. 1577 02:30:03,340 --> 02:30:30,340 This is a source of your funds. They don't change that much. We get some grants here and there, but the grants do not cover your operating expenses. During the course of this coming fiscal year, we will add a policy where anything that is comes in, we rent money. 1578 02:30:30,340 --> 02:30:37,040 actually have to be account for the budget and appropriate. Right now you've got grant funds 1579 02:30:37,040 --> 02:30:44,400 that come in and then you spend the grant funds to do the project but those funds should 1580 02:30:44,400 --> 02:30:52,080 follow through every part of your portfolio and your audit. So for example, we got $62,000 1581 02:30:52,080 --> 02:30:58,960 proof. There should be a process where you approve that as a member to your budget because 1582 02:30:58,960 --> 02:31:02,400 because you just increased your capital budget and your operating budget, which everyone 1583 02:31:02,400 --> 02:31:08,700 case may be, you need to improve that that is now part of your budget. So it's a, 1584 02:31:10,500 --> 02:31:16,180 most people just feel like a paperwork exercise, but it makes your audit a lot cleaner, because 1585 02:31:16,180 --> 02:31:21,480 the money's coming in and the money's going out, it should come through your operating 1586 02:31:21,480 --> 02:31:29,800 and capital. So that source of revenue is not listed here because that's not the way 1587 02:31:30,250 --> 02:31:36,440 your budget has been operating for the last 20 years. But you're going to start to see 1588 02:31:36,440 --> 02:31:42,520 us put some policies in place to get that one up to speak to. All right, next slide please. 1589 02:31:44,900 --> 02:31:50,380 All right, so here's your real estate taxes which is the lion share of the money that you're coming in. 1590 02:31:51,300 --> 02:31:58,880 You can see there is almost a $90,000 increase and that's a nice place to live, the 1591 02:31:58,880 --> 02:31:59,620 property is valuable. 1592 02:32:00,160 --> 02:32:00,560 There you go. 1593 02:32:01,380 --> 02:32:09,080 The percentage of what we get in through taxes is restricted specifically to road repairs, 1594 02:32:09,380 --> 02:32:14,800 road repairs include current better and whatever needs to be done associated with that road 1595 02:32:14,800 --> 02:32:21,860 So, when we go through and we look at funding, you know, part of, sort of, mental exercise 1596 02:32:21,860 --> 02:32:25,080 when we go through is the difference between restricted and unrestricted costs. 1597 02:32:25,740 --> 02:32:29,880 So, you have a certain part of your budget that, through taxes, it comes to you that it's 1598 02:32:29,880 --> 02:32:31,940 restricted to road rate repair. 1599 02:32:32,400 --> 02:32:36,500 You cannot, for any reason, use that money for anything other than what it's that's paid 1600 02:32:36,500 --> 02:32:36,820 for. 1601 02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:43,420 As you do a cash flow, okay, well, you can, because it's in the same bank account, sort 1602 02:32:43,420 --> 02:32:50,380 But when it comes down to what your decision-making process is, you can't decide to use road 1603 02:32:50,380 --> 02:32:53,760 rate repair money to pay something's out. 1604 02:32:55,180 --> 02:33:04,080 So those are the changes, $89,000, which you know in our budget is, you know, a good piece 1605 02:33:04,080 --> 02:33:04,360 of money. 1606 02:33:04,880 --> 02:33:05,620 Next slide please. 1607 02:33:08,870 --> 02:33:17,170 First of all, property tax, both of the uses of that, the restricting and non-restricted, 1608 02:33:17,170 --> 02:33:18,430 there's no change. 1609 02:33:19,010 --> 02:33:26,570 There's no change in that $220,000, $12,300, $20, exactly the same as last year, next 1610 02:33:26,570 --> 02:33:27,110 slide please. 1611 02:33:31,500 --> 02:33:34,660 These two, also, no change. 1612 02:33:35,800 --> 02:33:41,940 So income tax and your refuse and recycling fee, as you recall, we increase the refuse and 1613 02:33:41,940 --> 02:33:49,640 cycling fee a little bit last year. It is still not to the point where it covers your whole 1614 02:33:49,640 --> 02:33:55,000 roughies operation. You know, and that's something in the future you may want to consider. 1615 02:33:55,700 --> 02:34:01,500 Know that, you know, however you decide to finance it, you'll always have those base costs, so 1616 02:34:02,900 --> 02:34:10,460 you know, it doesn't make it so that you can change a whole lot in terms of what an individual person 1617 02:34:10,460 --> 02:34:18,080 So, you know, you always have some UV options that are actually probably more fair, so that 1618 02:34:18,080 --> 02:34:25,120 people that recycle paper may less, and that sort of thing, but right now, I think you 1619 02:34:25,740 --> 02:34:31,880 got a little bit more realistic, but you're still really far off as refugees and recycling 1620 02:34:31,880 --> 02:34:36,680 doesn't come close to paying for what that operation costs. 1621 02:34:37,540 --> 02:34:38,700 So that's the next slide, please. 1622 02:34:41,700 --> 02:34:42,640 License of permits. 1623 02:34:44,040 --> 02:34:46,920 Thanks for the hard work of Hollis Center staff. 1624 02:34:47,600 --> 02:34:53,860 You have caught up with some rentals that were operating 1625 02:34:54,520 --> 02:34:55,700 without licenses before. 1626 02:34:56,920 --> 02:34:59,240 Changes in some things in your town. 1627 02:34:59,520 --> 02:35:02,440 You've got more rental licenses than you had before. 1628 02:35:02,440 --> 02:35:06,520 We've got 18 new licenses, so that increases out a little bit. 1629 02:35:08,120 --> 02:35:12,260 The disposal rebate fee that has changed. 1630 02:35:13,040 --> 02:35:16,320 So not all, a lot of change in revenue there. 1631 02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:17,540 Go ahead and next slide. 1632 02:35:20,490 --> 02:35:21,250 Peace and fines. 1633 02:35:23,030 --> 02:35:27,170 The interesting thing about the fines going down is, 1634 02:35:27,290 --> 02:35:31,570 it's really just another one of those reality checks with the budget. 1635 02:35:31,570 --> 02:35:38,410 It certainly was no one's intention, but, you know, good work, 1636 02:35:39,210 --> 02:35:44,030 done by Michelle and auditors and figured out that $20,000 1637 02:35:44,030 --> 02:35:48,690 was actually being, that from the speed camera was actually being put 1638 02:35:48,690 --> 02:35:50,530 in as revenue twice in the past. 1639 02:35:51,270 --> 02:35:54,830 So part of it, if your budget changed this year, $20,000 1640 02:35:55,090 --> 02:35:58,650 was fixing that, was fixing that. 1641 02:35:58,650 --> 02:36:03,610 So somewhere along the line, it was being put in as revenue in two places. 1642 02:36:04,510 --> 02:36:08,430 So this is just tighten that screw and get on the poster. 1643 02:36:08,430 --> 02:36:09,490 It was realistic. 1644 02:36:10,170 --> 02:36:10,690 Is that right, Michelle? 1645 02:36:10,850 --> 02:36:11,330 Does that make sense? 1646 02:36:12,470 --> 02:36:12,770 Thank you. 1647 02:36:14,210 --> 02:36:15,970 It's just doing it all on you. 1648 02:36:16,110 --> 02:36:16,370 Good view. 1649 02:36:16,950 --> 02:36:17,130 All right. 1650 02:36:18,830 --> 02:36:19,630 Miscellaneous stuff. 1651 02:36:20,050 --> 02:36:20,570 Miscellaneous, correct. 1652 02:36:21,750 --> 02:36:22,210 Thank you. 1653 02:36:22,630 --> 02:36:26,670 So in miscellaneous, we actually went down a little bit. 1654 02:36:26,670 --> 02:36:35,650 the last payment that comes to the town for the town's impact fee as you were 1655 02:36:35,650 --> 02:36:43,110 or the Cranball Station projects that has already come in so that shows to you 1656 02:36:43,110 --> 02:36:49,130 on the revenue side as $23,000 less than a prior year. Next slide. 1657 02:36:54,250 --> 02:36:55,990 Please aid that 1658 02:36:55,990 --> 02:37:04,450 That number doesn't come in in time for us to have the most up-to-faite number as far 1659 02:37:04,450 --> 02:37:12,070 as your budget goes, so we have opted to just leave that as they say, and we'll just accordingly. 1660 02:37:13,050 --> 02:37:21,410 Highway user revenue, you know, I got a little bit more change from that this year, it was $7,300 1661 02:37:21,410 --> 02:37:27,990 $100 and a paid and program might buy a manhole cover, but you know we'll take it so highway 1662 02:37:27,990 --> 02:37:35,350 easier fees. We dedicate those funds towards your road work including the current 1663 02:37:35,350 --> 02:37:39,470 gutter and everything associated with repair that road. Next slide. 1664 02:37:43,710 --> 02:37:51,350 Here are your budget enhancements that your staff just went over with you. Just put them 1665 02:37:51,350 --> 02:37:57,390 All down on paper, so you can have a look, understand that this is a total list. 1666 02:37:57,570 --> 02:38:05,850 Some of this money's already there because it's restricted funds, collected for a specific 1667 02:38:05,850 --> 02:38:10,570 purpose, vehicle replacement, being a big one. 1668 02:38:11,890 --> 02:38:13,450 Go ahead, next slide. 1669 02:38:17,560 --> 02:38:19,240 Public safety tax in district. 1670 02:38:19,980 --> 02:38:21,800 No huge changes there. 1671 02:38:22,480 --> 02:38:30,400 those are restricted funds, you know, we always have a discussion of how we put certain things 1672 02:38:30,400 --> 02:38:38,540 under that program but it's set up as a specific fund or a specific purpose, $2,000 change in 1673 02:38:38,540 --> 02:38:42,620 that program is not a big deal. Okay, next slide. 1674 02:38:46,360 --> 02:38:49,140 All right, so that sort of takes you through all the 1675 02:38:49,140 --> 02:39:08,460 The budget changes and well the enhancement service staff, you kind of went over a little bit of what the health insurance changes and how good part of that is going to be absorbed by some offsets that are going to come from staff. 1676 02:39:10,080 --> 02:39:19,000 You know one of the biggest sort of stock prices that the staff is taking is going from a 2% merit increase. 1677 02:39:19,000 --> 02:39:30,100 to 1% and it was a hard decision but that was probably the best way to offset that. 1678 02:39:31,200 --> 02:39:43,180 I don't know that we did a slide for it but I want to point out to you that one of the biggest things that we had talked about 1679 02:39:43,180 --> 02:39:48,880 We've got the course of the work sessions and over the course of last year with the use of fund balance 1680 02:39:49,940 --> 02:39:54,600 Fund balance and sometimes it's called free cash and the amount of money that you have left over 1681 02:39:54,600 --> 02:40:00,060 From one fiscal year and put it in the bank and you keep it there 1682 02:40:01,060 --> 02:40:09,620 To be used for rainy days water balance, you know as you've been doing here and balance the budget from the previous year 1683 02:40:10,980 --> 02:40:12,280 This year we 1684 02:40:13,180 --> 02:40:20,600 reduce the amount of money that you're using to balance the budget by almost 30% 1685 02:40:20,600 --> 02:40:29,120 it's the total is 57,977 people individually want to go look at the spreadsheet that was 1686 02:40:29,120 --> 02:40:34,340 implanted to be up to the spreadsheet as far as the presentation but we reduced it from 1687 02:40:34,340 --> 02:40:43,080 you know last year we spent $277,000 out of fund balance this year we reduced that 1688 02:40:43,080 --> 02:40:51,240 a $149 that. So we significantly reduced the amount of money that you're using to balance 1689 02:40:51,240 --> 02:40:59,940 the budget because you made a, well, twofold. One, you know, we kept the cost down to 1690 02:40:59,940 --> 02:41:07,180 bare minimum. And the other is that you did a reality check with the budget last year and 1691 02:41:07,180 --> 02:41:13,320 And you really looked at how we were actually spending the money that was in your budget. 1692 02:41:14,060 --> 02:41:15,640 We'll continue to do that. 1693 02:41:16,300 --> 02:41:20,000 There have been some cases where we've come back to you and said, okay, well, we have some 1694 02:41:20,000 --> 02:41:27,920 slack and salaries, and we'd like to use that to get the building made and stuff done. 1695 02:41:28,720 --> 02:41:34,900 We have made some changes around in the pro forma, the spreadsheet that you're going to see 1696 02:41:36,140 --> 02:41:44,980 more for tracking purposes. We have made a separate line item for the elevator just so that you could 1697 02:41:44,980 --> 02:41:51,520 specifically see how much money is going to enter the repairs and cost for that elevator. 1698 02:41:52,360 --> 02:42:03,020 It's a ticking time bomb that will need to be dealt with at some point. We may want to, you know, 1699 02:42:03,020 --> 02:42:06,680 We tried to look at it, see, maybe a Honda would work, 1700 02:42:06,820 --> 02:42:07,900 but obviously that didn't happen. 1701 02:42:08,700 --> 02:42:14,760 But you may want to look at it, and this isn't the year 1702 02:42:14,760 --> 02:42:15,920 start of a lot of new stuff. 1703 02:42:16,100 --> 02:42:17,940 But you may want to look at it next year, 1704 02:42:19,720 --> 02:42:24,260 and maybe you may either look at some other financing 1705 02:42:24,260 --> 02:42:27,320 or pay for it over time, but we weren't going to have 1706 02:42:27,320 --> 02:42:29,980 to do that out later one way or the other. 1707 02:42:29,980 --> 02:42:37,300 So, we have given the elevator, almost like we need to do that elevator name or something. 1708 02:42:38,000 --> 02:42:42,860 We've given that elevator its own separate line on them so that you can follow. 1709 02:42:43,520 --> 02:42:53,460 The other thing that you're going to find is that we propose you to start a vehicle replacement fund for police vehicles. 1710 02:42:53,460 --> 02:42:58,600 and what we've done and it's included in this budget is we've taken the 1711 02:42:58,600 --> 02:43:03,760 vehicles that you bought in this current fiscal year, this year 20 and just 1712 02:43:03,760 --> 02:43:11,160 the year 21 and started it from there. So figure out how many years those, I'm 1713 02:43:11,160 --> 02:43:19,140 giving you seven, seven, seven years, so each year, starting, you know, your 1714 02:43:19,140 --> 02:43:34,940 proposed year, as you add new police vehicles, you know, some money will be, it'll take you a while to catch up, but at least you're doing it without, you know, really significant expense. 1715 02:43:35,980 --> 02:43:45,950 So, that sort of where we are with the budget, I do have one more really short PowerPoint 1716 02:43:45,950 --> 02:43:49,830 show, but I wanted to talk a little bit about the schedule first. 1717 02:43:50,530 --> 02:43:55,890 As you know, you normally publish your budget in the April bulletin. 1718 02:43:57,790 --> 02:44:06,230 It was my decision, but I didn't think with everything that was going on that we were ready 1719 02:44:06,230 --> 02:44:16,010 so it is not in people's hold and as they normally have expected it, the code is not required to be published there, it requires it to be published. 1720 02:44:16,910 --> 02:44:25,590 So it is not in April, because we just weren't ready, this budget, Michelle's been not ahead with it. 1721 02:44:25,950 --> 02:44:30,330 This budget looked a lot different two weeks ago than it looks today. 1722 02:44:31,310 --> 02:44:34,990 It's not a behavioral one, but it will be, isn't it? 1723 02:44:35,330 --> 02:44:40,690 Yeah, it will be in future years when we get back to whatever the new normal is. 1724 02:44:41,210 --> 02:44:43,590 But we are planning to put it in the main one. 1725 02:44:44,030 --> 02:44:51,390 If we've gone ahead and published it, at the time that it needed to go, it wasn't wrong. 1726 02:44:51,850 --> 02:44:53,470 It wouldn't have been more you looking at today. 1727 02:44:53,470 --> 02:44:59,970 So, I made that decision to pull a plug on that until Michelle and I were... 1728 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,460 Comfortable with what we're giving you. You have, as you normally have, you have two budget hearings coming up. One, at introduction. And one of your, your adoption date will make 13. We will be pretty good at this Zoom thing by then, because that's how it's going to be. There definitely no public meetings of more than 10 people. 1729 02:45:29,460 --> 02:45:37,240 before May 15th and, you know, don't hold me back and see how long that's going to last. 1730 02:45:38,040 --> 02:45:40,380 But the schedule is up there for you to see. 1731 02:45:41,060 --> 02:45:43,380 The mayor is holding the record open. 1732 02:45:43,840 --> 02:45:51,860 So between now and May 13th, residents have the option to contact their council members, 1733 02:45:52,180 --> 02:45:57,360 either, you know, through their emails or through the town 1734 02:45:58,120 --> 02:46:04,060 to give us your opinion and let us know what they think. 1735 02:46:04,820 --> 02:46:11,400 And as we go along, again, I and Michelle put this budget together, 1736 02:46:11,580 --> 02:46:13,920 so it's really proposed as a town manager's budget. 1737 02:46:14,420 --> 02:46:18,920 But it is the policy of the council, 1738 02:46:19,300 --> 02:46:22,680 and it is the council's option to direct changes 1739 02:46:23,360 --> 02:46:25,160 and won't do what we're told. 1740 02:46:25,940 --> 02:46:30,340 However, a lot of things that just can't be cut, I'm going to let you know. 1741 02:46:31,320 --> 02:46:37,760 I want to, with that, we had put together three slides that talked a little bit about 1742 02:46:37,760 --> 02:46:42,960 our budget and savings position and person if you can switch to that one. 1743 02:46:44,240 --> 02:46:44,620 I'm not. 1744 02:46:51,300 --> 02:46:52,280 It's not really a thing. 1745 02:46:53,020 --> 02:46:53,480 Right. 1746 02:46:54,000 --> 02:47:00,880 I was unable to put that up with all the preparations this morning, so we do not have that 1747 02:47:00,880 --> 02:47:06,640 I can try to get it up in five minutes, and we can maybe take a break if you want to discuss it. 1748 02:47:06,700 --> 02:47:09,500 No, that's fine. Let me just discuss it. 1749 02:47:13,700 --> 02:47:18,140 After the tax, so that people can go back and look at it, 1750 02:47:18,620 --> 02:47:23,880 we'll go ahead and email it to, I should show you, go ahead and email it to the council. 1751 02:47:25,180 --> 02:47:34,680 So, as I've done in the past, what I wanted to just sort of do for you is tell you where 1752 02:47:34,680 --> 02:47:42,620 we are in terms of our fund balance and the money in the account and where I think 1753 02:47:42,620 --> 02:47:51,880 our position is, as far as going forward, Michelle, one of the most of our payments come 1754 02:47:51,880 --> 02:47:54,300 and follow to the county for taxes. 1755 02:47:55,680 --> 02:48:04,440 From real estate taxes or the biggest portion of the money comes around September but 1756 02:48:04,440 --> 02:48:05,340 more in October. 1757 02:48:06,140 --> 02:48:17,880 So if we're a federal budget and to my mind we need to be prepared to make it through 1758 02:48:17,880 --> 02:48:26,140 to September or October to make sure that the money that we anticipate coming in actually 1759 02:48:26,140 --> 02:48:31,340 comes in, then we need to know that we have enough money in the bank to get there. 1760 02:48:31,940 --> 02:48:37,460 And we have to do that on a normal basis, but this year, looking at it, I mean, people 1761 02:48:37,460 --> 02:48:44,940 are, you know, especially small business people, you know, I have a lot of people in that category 1762 02:48:44,940 --> 02:48:52,280 that mean a lot to me and they're really hurt right now you know we're all hurt for them if they 1763 02:48:52,280 --> 02:49:01,140 can't pay their taxes we don't have that revenue so that's why we really didn't propose up a 1764 02:49:01,140 --> 02:49:08,320 lot to you that's new this year but we we wouldn't be in a better position to know in October whether 1765 02:49:08,930 --> 02:49:14,360 some of the things that are sort of tangible items that we can give to us enhancements should 1766 02:49:14,360 --> 02:49:20,320 realistic we go forward or not because you know you're going to prove a budget but the money just 1767 02:49:20,320 --> 02:49:30,540 doesn't come in the money's not in the back. So we look at having monthly expenses about $225,000 1768 02:49:30,540 --> 02:49:39,900 So with that, you know, to get through, um, is this two months of temporary have here? 1769 02:49:40,180 --> 02:49:40,360 Yes. 1770 02:49:40,600 --> 02:49:44,880 To the end of September? 1771 02:49:45,360 --> 02:49:45,640 Yes. 1772 02:49:46,180 --> 02:49:46,320 Yes. 1773 02:49:46,540 --> 02:49:49,700 So to the end of September, it's about $1.5 million. 1774 02:49:52,360 --> 02:49:54,080 Um, am I saying that right? 1775 02:49:55,260 --> 02:49:55,820 Sure. 1776 02:49:56,760 --> 02:49:56,900 Okay. 1777 02:49:59,100 --> 02:50:05,960 So then you know we have to make sure that or we have that much that we need and then 1778 02:50:05,960 --> 02:50:14,560 if we took that out of what we have and we've got 2.3 million right now in the back. 1779 02:50:15,480 --> 02:50:22,020 So after we take into account what we need to get through the month of September we've 1780 02:50:22,020 --> 02:50:26,200 about $800,000 uncommitted. 1781 02:50:26,720 --> 02:50:31,720 So you're actually in a pretty good fiscal situation, 1782 02:50:32,320 --> 02:50:36,020 provided the air clears sometimes in October. 1783 02:50:37,440 --> 02:50:52,000 You're only taking from that $800,000 that isn't committed 1784 02:50:52,960 --> 02:50:57,740 to balance the budget using a free cash or fund balance. 1785 02:50:58,380 --> 02:51:01,260 So that's sort of how our decision-making process was. 1786 02:51:01,860 --> 02:51:04,780 You know, we know we need to get through the month of October, 1787 02:51:05,740 --> 02:51:10,460 but we're holding our breath on some of the expenses 1788 02:51:10,460 --> 02:51:15,360 to see that people could do what they need to do. 1789 02:51:15,660 --> 02:51:21,780 I think it moves us to sort of keep our eyes on 1790 02:51:21,780 --> 02:51:30,900 how things go. We give you a monthly status of the finances every month and pay attention to 1791 02:51:30,900 --> 02:51:36,180 where those numbers are, because trust me, you know, we've loosely go over stuff like this, 1792 02:51:36,440 --> 02:51:41,700 and you know, what you got an eye on. Especially this week. Especially this week. Yes, we've also 1793 02:51:44,360 --> 02:51:48,560 Any questions for me, anything that you think I've done the same thing, Michelle? 1794 02:51:49,780 --> 02:51:51,100 No, I think you're doing great. 1795 02:51:52,080 --> 02:51:56,580 I just want to comment, even though there are several projects that are on this project, 1796 02:51:57,120 --> 02:51:59,180 none of this is really all happening to lie one. 1797 02:52:00,440 --> 02:52:05,080 So, uncertainty is there of what's going to go on and lift this virus and everything going on. 1798 02:52:05,480 --> 02:52:06,680 You know, when are we going to be getting taxes? 1799 02:52:07,100 --> 02:52:09,820 Of course, income taxes are coming late because we have a later duty. 1800 02:52:09,820 --> 02:52:12,720 But not necessarily everything's happened throughout the one. 1801 02:52:13,220 --> 02:52:16,180 So as many of the costs in the projects that we have, 1802 02:52:16,380 --> 02:52:18,580 that we can refer to having late arm in here, 1803 02:52:18,900 --> 02:52:20,080 we're definitely going to be doing that. 1804 02:52:21,440 --> 02:52:23,880 And I think we've been doing that for the long run. 1805 02:52:24,180 --> 02:52:25,840 Not only this year because we have the pandemic, 1806 02:52:26,360 --> 02:52:28,020 but even during fiscal 20. 1807 02:52:28,480 --> 02:52:31,180 We've been monitoring the projects, checking to see if it's okay. 1808 02:52:31,800 --> 02:52:33,360 I remember the beginning of this fiscal year, 1809 02:52:33,420 --> 02:52:34,080 Director Hall. 1810 02:52:34,300 --> 02:52:35,980 He said, Michelle, can it start from a straight project? 1811 02:52:36,300 --> 02:52:36,840 No, you can't. 1812 02:52:36,840 --> 02:52:41,980 Ten is the money coming. No, it hasn't. And when they've started on the came in, I said, okay, we got the money 1813 02:52:41,980 --> 02:52:48,180 You could do your project. He's like, all right, I'll do it. You know, it's something that we are always constantly monitoring our project 1814 02:52:49,040 --> 02:52:52,580 Yeah, you're a proof of the budget doesn't doesn't grow money on trees 1815 02:52:53,620 --> 02:52:54,940 We we approved 1816 02:52:55,620 --> 02:52:58,340 Project to be paid for about out of the road fund 1817 02:52:59,100 --> 02:53:01,320 And the money that comes from highway user 1818 02:53:01,860 --> 02:53:06,760 I don't pull the trigger on that project and lay some of that contract until the money's in the back. 1819 02:53:07,880 --> 02:53:09,120 Because who knows? 1820 02:53:11,020 --> 02:53:14,740 My personal opinion is that government movement is doing a fantastic job. 1821 02:53:15,320 --> 02:53:19,140 The general assembly could go back and say, oh my god, we need to look at some of them differently 1822 02:53:19,140 --> 02:53:26,020 and change their mind on some of the money that they put forward and approved. 1823 02:53:26,020 --> 02:53:30,460 because they're wanting their approval that exists so that one isn't in their 1824 02:53:30,460 --> 02:53:37,020 bank so I think we're all sort of all kids in Needles to see what's that 1825 02:53:37,020 --> 02:53:43,620 happening. So thank you man. Thank you so much and before we open the 1826 02:53:43,620 --> 02:53:50,500 discussion I just want to echo town manager broadvents thank you to Michelle I 1827 02:53:50,500 --> 02:53:57,600 I know, you know, this is, you know, a budget is a working document, but whenever something 1828 02:53:57,600 --> 02:54:02,240 like this, the pandemic that we never thought was really going to get as bad as it did, and 1829 02:54:02,240 --> 02:54:07,500 the fact that you're spending countless hours with Town Manager Broadvin as well to get 1830 02:54:07,500 --> 02:54:13,880 this done, you know, we can't say anything more than kudos and thank you both to you and 1831 02:54:13,880 --> 02:54:19,540 Town Manager Broadvin, because I know you guys are really, really, really working countless 1832 02:54:19,540 --> 02:54:25,280 hours to get something to us that made sense, while even really focused in 1833 02:54:25,280 --> 02:54:29,720 considering the residents and the employees of the town. So thank you so much 1834 02:54:29,720 --> 02:54:34,420 to both of you for all of your hard work with this as well. Thank you Mr. Mayor. 1835 02:54:34,700 --> 02:54:37,180 I will add that Michelle was supposed to be on the cruise. 1836 02:54:39,550 --> 02:54:40,670 I got canceled last 1837 02:54:40,670 --> 02:54:46,050 minute. I was supposed to be enjoying the sun but there's been having so 1838 02:54:47,350 --> 02:54:49,950 Well, don't worry, we have Sun coming up one Sunday. 1839 02:54:51,980 --> 02:54:52,680 Thank you, man. 1840 02:54:53,120 --> 02:54:53,480 Thank you. 1841 02:54:53,980 --> 02:54:57,260 So with that, I'm going to open up the discussion to the council. 1842 02:54:57,260 --> 02:54:59,020 We'll start with Mayor Progett, Bob and Nicholas. 1843 02:55:00,980 --> 02:55:01,540 All right. 1844 02:55:04,400 --> 02:55:05,720 That was a good, good overview. 1845 02:55:07,600 --> 02:55:08,780 I really enjoyed it. 1846 02:55:09,460 --> 02:55:14,460 I'll be honest, the thing that keeps me up at night will be losing something like the highway user revenue, 1847 02:55:14,460 --> 02:55:21,740 which I know our general assembly tends to read like a little income bank, which would 1848 02:55:21,740 --> 02:55:30,770 obviously impact some of our road projects, but we have enough reserve there in case that 1849 02:55:30,770 --> 02:55:31,210 happens. 1850 02:55:31,210 --> 02:55:36,390 Would you say you want to, do you want to recall how much money is in that account? 1851 02:55:37,790 --> 02:55:39,930 In the infrastructure reserve account? 1852 02:55:40,410 --> 02:55:42,410 The one specific for road work. 1853 02:55:45,290 --> 02:55:46,690 I can't, but it's over 500. 1854 02:55:47,410 --> 02:55:49,750 Okay, so the answer is yes. 1855 02:55:50,590 --> 02:55:50,890 Okay. 1856 02:55:51,190 --> 02:55:52,350 We certainly could. 1857 02:55:52,950 --> 02:55:54,290 But that's not our preference obviously. 1858 02:55:54,950 --> 02:56:04,030 Yeah, and if we decided to do that, we will be calling back to you 1859 02:56:04,030 --> 02:56:10,970 because you not only improve the amount of funding, but you know, appropriation. 1860 02:56:11,450 --> 02:56:11,810 Right, right. 1861 02:56:11,970 --> 02:56:16,950 The tax you never had in appropriation was never part of your approval. 1862 02:56:17,190 --> 02:56:19,650 Board appropriation was never in your budget ordinance. 1863 02:56:20,550 --> 02:56:20,750 No. 1864 02:56:21,450 --> 02:56:21,690 Yeah. 1865 02:56:22,270 --> 02:56:26,070 So the source of funds is as important as how much. 1866 02:56:26,670 --> 02:56:26,910 All right. 1867 02:56:28,110 --> 02:56:29,850 Couple of quick questions. 1868 02:56:30,770 --> 02:56:37,530 Just doing back-to-the-on-world math as we have, after we take out what we use to balance 1869 02:56:37,530 --> 02:56:42,810 operating, the operating money that we took to balance the budget and the fund balance. 1870 02:56:43,290 --> 02:56:48,910 I think it'll be like $6.60. That's called $2.5 months. Can we foresee getting in the way 1871 02:56:48,910 --> 02:56:49,670 that long? 1872 02:56:54,290 --> 02:57:03,050 I don't think that was the right answer, I have a different child right now, no one knows 1873 02:57:03,050 --> 02:57:03,550 that answer. 1874 02:57:04,830 --> 02:57:12,510 I will tell you, for what it's worth, I am the Secretary for Maryland International 1875 02:57:12,510 --> 02:57:18,130 City County Management Association and those of us who are on that board are a constant 1876 02:57:18,130 --> 02:57:23,170 of communication, and those of us that are the town managers for North American 1877 02:57:23,170 --> 02:57:29,650 Georgia's County, we are in multiple times a day conversation about what 1878 02:57:29,650 --> 02:57:37,470 each of us are doing and decision-making process and that sort of thing. So we're 1879 02:57:37,470 --> 02:57:43,710 we're all working together to figure this out, you know, I've always been for 1880 02:57:43,710 --> 02:57:53,250 working with this, but yeah if I knew that answer, you'd know it already. Okay. So a couple 1881 02:57:53,250 --> 02:58:00,590 of other questions that I had, I was looking over the spreadsheet and I noticed, and I know 1882 02:58:00,590 --> 02:58:05,350 this question comes up and will come up so more I can anticipate it better off, I think. 1883 02:58:07,530 --> 02:58:14,150 Why does our income tax number never go up? I know the state uses the number, but we bring in 1884 02:58:14,150 --> 02:58:16,950 I mean, quite a bit more than we anticipate every year. 1885 02:58:17,930 --> 02:58:19,050 I mean, I happen this year. 1886 02:58:19,130 --> 02:58:21,950 I'm just curious why that number has never moved in three years. 1887 02:58:22,390 --> 02:58:22,710 I don't know. 1888 02:58:22,810 --> 02:58:24,210 Maybe it was that number, I don't know why. 1889 02:58:24,790 --> 02:58:25,170 Okay. 1890 02:58:25,970 --> 02:58:27,990 Yeah, we know that's not a number of weeks in, right? 1891 02:58:28,310 --> 02:58:28,530 Right. 1892 02:58:28,690 --> 02:58:30,990 There's another mistake it gives us, right? 1893 02:58:31,610 --> 02:58:31,890 Yes. 1894 02:58:32,070 --> 02:58:33,590 Come straight from the Alchemist's office. 1895 02:58:34,190 --> 02:58:34,330 Okay. 1896 02:58:35,210 --> 02:58:36,170 And go ask the comfortable. 1897 02:58:37,930 --> 02:58:39,810 They might keep something with sales. 1898 02:58:41,070 --> 02:58:41,510 Problem. 1899 02:58:42,550 --> 02:58:47,670 I'm pretty sure from that remember the funds come in, it trickles the answer, it can go 1900 02:58:47,670 --> 02:58:52,650 state, then the proportion that goes to county, and this is what's our little share of. 1901 02:58:53,830 --> 02:58:54,170 Okay. 1902 02:58:55,130 --> 02:59:03,370 I also noticed that there's only six months of spend on respiration, when do we close out 1903 02:59:03,370 --> 02:59:04,030 two, three? 1904 02:59:06,500 --> 02:59:07,160 What about what? 1905 02:59:07,580 --> 02:59:08,040 What about what? 1906 02:59:08,280 --> 02:59:08,480 I'm sorry. 1907 02:59:08,480 --> 02:59:16,500 When do we close out this quarter ending March 31st, so that we can add back to the spreadsheet? 1908 02:59:20,360 --> 02:59:25,600 This spreadsheet only has six months of data for this unit's budget. 1909 02:59:26,900 --> 02:59:35,120 Well, it's a lot easier for people to map it by half than it is anything else, but that's the reason why it's a normal practice. 1910 02:59:35,120 --> 02:59:37,160 So you just have to be a budget. 1911 02:59:38,360 --> 02:59:42,220 Whenever we pay all the bills for March, 1912 02:59:42,720 --> 02:59:47,000 so the numbers probably be in the vehicle. 1913 02:59:47,760 --> 02:59:47,940 OK. 1914 02:59:48,660 --> 02:59:48,760 OK. 1915 02:59:49,300 --> 02:59:51,020 I was just curious to you on my part. 1916 02:59:53,350 --> 02:59:53,610 All right. 1917 02:59:56,130 --> 02:59:56,690 I'm good. 1918 02:59:58,110 --> 02:59:58,790 Thank you. 1919 02:59:58,790 --> 02:59:59,630 I just got some numbers. 1920 03:00:01,680 --> 03:00:08,780 Thank you. Michelle, on the PowerPoint, you sent to our e-mail. I don't know if it's just 1921 03:00:08,780 --> 03:00:16,800 leave, but I don't. There's no information in it. It just has title slides. You have to 1922 03:00:16,800 --> 03:00:23,080 hit the open PowerPoint. That's what I had to do. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's working now. 1923 03:00:28,000 --> 03:00:34,840 We went through this last night and if you don't open it as a PowerPoint, they don't show up that way. 1924 03:00:35,060 --> 03:00:36,980 It just shows you like a preview file. 1925 03:00:37,680 --> 03:00:40,240 It just shows rectangles. 1926 03:00:41,000 --> 03:00:42,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1927 03:00:44,200 --> 03:00:50,040 I don't really have anything like burning questions that I have. 1928 03:00:50,040 --> 03:00:56,680 So, I'll yield my time and speak up if I have anything that I think are all looking at this red sheet. 1929 03:00:58,480 --> 03:01:00,520 Okay, thank you so much, Council Member Dewey. 1930 03:01:01,520 --> 03:01:06,180 Sure. I think, I think we've had a good question. 1931 03:01:06,400 --> 03:01:10,880 I don't have anything specific because there's so many unknowns. 1932 03:01:11,360 --> 03:01:18,900 So, I'm really understanding that what we're going to have to do is just keep our eye on the ball every month or a long time. 1933 03:01:19,760 --> 03:01:24,320 And we can make our best guess and look into crystal walls and that's what we're doing trying to be conservative. 1934 03:01:25,540 --> 03:01:27,900 You know, that's why we're not getting all fancy with stuff. 1935 03:01:28,300 --> 03:01:33,860 That's why we're not, you know, keeping a conservative mindset especially now is important. 1936 03:01:34,580 --> 03:01:38,660 So I just appreciate and call for us all to be looking closely every month. 1937 03:01:38,860 --> 03:01:43,500 And we have no idea about how long this whole virus situation is going to impact so many things. 1938 03:01:43,500 --> 03:01:49,340 So, the more we can stand top of it, then I appreciate all the hard work, but I guess together twice. 1939 03:01:50,420 --> 03:01:51,160 Not pleasure. 1940 03:01:52,200 --> 03:01:52,880 It'll be fun. 1941 03:01:54,400 --> 03:01:55,500 All right, thank you so much. 1942 03:01:56,040 --> 03:01:56,980 Council Member Osmond. 1943 03:01:58,100 --> 03:01:59,680 This was a very good session. 1944 03:01:59,860 --> 03:02:00,720 It was well organized. 1945 03:02:01,840 --> 03:02:03,940 My first experience was last year. 1946 03:02:04,660 --> 03:02:07,480 As I said in our work in session, I missed having lunch with everybody, 1947 03:02:08,480 --> 03:02:10,020 but considering where we are, 1948 03:02:10,020 --> 03:02:12,780 in trying to stop this spread of a virus. 1949 03:02:13,360 --> 03:02:16,320 This technology is actually proven to be successful. 1950 03:02:16,880 --> 03:02:21,100 So congratulations to getting this format put together 1951 03:02:21,100 --> 03:02:22,940 and for hosting it in this manner. 1952 03:02:23,680 --> 03:02:24,700 The only... 1953 03:02:24,700 --> 03:02:25,600 That's Carson's work. 1954 03:02:26,280 --> 03:02:29,420 Thank you, Carson, for figuring this out. 1955 03:02:29,640 --> 03:02:31,400 Because I was about to run away 1956 03:02:31,400 --> 03:02:32,980 at about 11 o'clock on Wednesday. 1957 03:02:34,420 --> 03:02:37,740 Carson did the head of the synonymous and I appreciate it. 1958 03:02:38,500 --> 03:02:44,520 Great, and I would say that conservative thinking that's gone into putting this buzz together 1959 03:02:44,520 --> 03:02:47,880 of Echo Council Member Dewey is a prudent. 1960 03:02:48,520 --> 03:02:49,420 I like prudence. 1961 03:02:50,600 --> 03:02:56,400 I wanted to note, as we hear in the Federal Government, there's a big stimulus package 1962 03:02:56,400 --> 03:03:01,100 and I wanted to ask you to tell a matter of your broadband with all your excellent, extensive networks 1963 03:03:01,580 --> 03:03:05,340 and connections that you have from your years of public service. 1964 03:03:05,340 --> 03:03:09,420 as anything come out, either via MML or whatever, 1965 03:03:09,760 --> 03:03:14,340 as our analysis being done from the perspective 1966 03:03:14,340 --> 03:03:16,060 of local government of the stimulus 1967 03:03:16,060 --> 03:03:19,000 to see what changes may occur. 1968 03:03:19,360 --> 03:03:21,840 Like, obviously, the delay in the provision 1969 03:03:21,840 --> 03:03:25,820 to provide one's income tax right is one thing. 1970 03:03:26,120 --> 03:03:27,260 Do you know of any others, 1971 03:03:27,560 --> 03:03:29,400 and I'm sure you all are on top of it, 1972 03:03:29,500 --> 03:03:32,160 but if you could share anything about that stimulus, 1973 03:03:32,160 --> 03:03:33,200 I appreciate it. 1974 03:03:33,200 --> 03:03:42,040 I'd be happy to, as I get it, my focus next week is going to be on things of that nature 1975 03:03:43,160 --> 03:03:51,920 as well as some other timely issues that have been affected by, you know, just not being 1976 03:03:51,920 --> 03:03:53,220 able to operate normally. 1977 03:03:54,300 --> 03:04:00,840 So that is among my priorities for next year, you know, I've gone through processes where 1978 03:04:00,840 --> 03:04:09,020 we had to collect all kinds of information to get reverse of money back from FEMA, hurricanes 1979 03:04:09,020 --> 03:04:18,900 and blizzards. I suspect some of it may be similar to that. So, recuperation of cost 1980 03:04:18,900 --> 03:04:30,820 and chief hammer can I have talked, and I've talked to the books of fireworks about, you 1981 03:04:30,820 --> 03:04:33,800 comes out from the federal government, maybe from the state, 1982 03:04:33,980 --> 03:04:35,980 but the state's probably going to be a pass-through cost, 1983 03:04:37,120 --> 03:04:40,660 but we'll be digging deep to give as much of that as we can. 1984 03:04:42,120 --> 03:04:43,360 As I know, I think about it. 1985 03:04:43,940 --> 03:04:45,180 I'll keep you guys posted. 1986 03:04:46,020 --> 03:04:46,380 Excellent. 1987 03:04:46,600 --> 03:04:46,960 Thank you. 1988 03:04:47,140 --> 03:04:47,760 You're my time. 1989 03:04:49,360 --> 03:04:49,860 Thank you so much. 1990 03:04:50,160 --> 03:04:52,880 I really have nothing further to add on this. 1991 03:04:53,140 --> 03:04:55,520 I think everyone from the council has 1992 03:04:55,520 --> 03:04:57,200 really expressed their thoughts. 1993 03:04:57,200 --> 03:05:12,800 So at this point I'm going to open up the phone lines as well as the email 30147495703014749570 while the 1994 03:05:12,800 --> 03:05:18,820 phone is here and people are dialing. Councilmember Dewey, are there any email questions? 1995 03:05:20,200 --> 03:05:26,380 Yes, we have one question from Jody Colberti on Ruitans Street which was just clarifying that the 1996 03:05:26,380 --> 03:05:32,700 property tax rate will be kept the same and so the question word-for-word is will 1997 03:05:32,700 --> 03:05:37,700 the property tax rate be decreased to generate a constant yield or will it 1998 03:05:37,700 --> 03:05:40,740 be kept the same and result in an increase in property tax? 1999 03:05:41,860 --> 03:05:50,520 Have it answer that so there's no increase in property tax. We have absorbed 2000 03:05:50,520 --> 03:05:54,960 or internally, largely to be perfectly honest with you, 2001 03:05:55,120 --> 03:05:57,820 it was sort of the most of those increases your staff, 2002 03:05:58,440 --> 03:06:01,800 your staff, because you normally have been giving staff 2003 03:06:01,800 --> 03:06:08,560 a 2% merit increase, and we've reduced it to one this year. 2004 03:06:09,140 --> 03:06:11,680 Your health insurance costs have gone up, 2005 03:06:12,120 --> 03:06:16,840 and your staff has absorbed a good chunk of that cost. 2006 03:06:16,840 --> 03:06:25,760 two weeks ago we might have proposed that to you differently so no there is no 2007 03:06:25,760 --> 03:06:35,200 change in what we are asking the taxpayer to contribute but hopefully that 2008 03:06:35,200 --> 03:06:41,180 answers your question and thank you so much Ruby zero one four seven four nine five 2009 03:06:41,180 --> 03:06:43,220 seven zero and 2010 03:06:46,800 --> 03:06:49,800 Michelle are using injured people here 2011 03:06:52,430 --> 03:06:53,550 and he told me she would know. 2012 03:06:56,150 --> 03:07:03,310 It's for private sex and we're gonna be okay. It cannot be early, early, early enough for that 2013 03:07:03,310 --> 03:07:11,530 to happen for me. This isn't after this week. At this time, we are moving on to the fourth section. 2014 03:07:12,810 --> 03:07:23,030 I would recommend a five rather than a 10 minute break is that okay for everybody or would you prefer a 10 minute? 2015 03:07:26,990 --> 03:07:30,990 I'm seeing a five from council member Dewey. 2016 03:07:30,990 --> 03:07:32,810 So we'll take a five minute break. 2017 03:07:32,810 --> 03:07:41,190 Please mute and stop your video and we'll be back at 12-15. 2018 03:07:41,710 --> 03:07:42,450 Thank you. 2019 03:13:40,400 --> 03:13:41,720 just a reminder. 2020 03:13:45,260 --> 03:13:50,400 This time, this is the Council discussion, so while the record will be open for any 2021 03:13:51,220 --> 03:13:54,860 comments, questions, concerns, this would not be the time that we 2022 03:13:55,560 --> 03:14:01,680 recognize them at this meeting, but the record will be open until May 13th. So, any comments, any 2023 03:14:01,680 --> 03:14:07,420 questions that you have, please feel free to email or call any of the council members. 2024 03:14:08,580 --> 03:14:12,540 Our information is on the back of the bulletin as well as on the website, so 2025 03:14:12,540 --> 03:14:16,700 So, at this time, for council discussion, I will do the same thing. 2026 03:14:17,020 --> 03:14:22,700 It will be open to discussion, but I will start in the same order that we have done before. 2027 03:14:22,900 --> 03:14:25,240 So, I will start with Mayor Prattam, Papa Nicholas. 2028 03:14:26,580 --> 03:14:27,960 Where should you start with me, first? 2029 03:14:31,840 --> 03:14:34,060 What all do we think we need to discuss here? 2030 03:14:34,680 --> 03:14:37,280 I know we've had productive day of presentations. 2031 03:14:38,820 --> 03:14:43,100 I would discuss the budget enhancements for the last few months. 2032 03:14:43,100 --> 03:14:50,820 So I guess one of my questions that I have for this group is while we think we need to discuss at this point. 2033 03:14:54,190 --> 03:14:55,310 Maria, you're muted. 2034 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:29,760 What staff was hoping for was any, so this is a work session. You can't vote on anything or work session. However, work sessions are for us to educate you and you dedicate us. So if there's any, you know, guidance that you want to give us before we fine tune anything for its introduction on April 15th. 2035 03:15:29,760 --> 03:15:39,240 And now it's the time to sort of suggest what, you know, if you want to see option A, option B, that sort of thing, that's the best way to use this time. 2036 03:15:42,220 --> 03:15:46,580 Well, let's go to everyone else and we can come back to me if I have anything. 2037 03:15:47,660 --> 03:15:51,540 Okay, so I will go to council member suite with this route. 2038 03:15:53,640 --> 03:15:55,840 Jason just passing that on to me now. 2039 03:16:00,870 --> 03:16:09,150 I mean, I'm kind of in the same boat, I don't really have anything pressing to talk 2040 03:16:09,150 --> 03:16:09,410 about. 2041 03:16:09,550 --> 03:16:19,290 I kind of want to digest the spreadsheet a bit more now that we have it, just kind of 2042 03:16:19,290 --> 03:16:21,810 make sure that everything's going along well. 2043 03:16:21,810 --> 03:16:30,050 I think that, you know, in terms of what is being proposed in some of the presentations today, 2044 03:16:30,190 --> 03:16:38,980 there was nothing really that stuck out to me in terms of anything that, you know, was like, 2045 03:16:38,980 --> 03:16:44,380 well, I don't know if we really need that. I know that we have kind of discussed in a previous 2046 03:16:44,380 --> 03:16:50,800 work session, we have discussed like the chairs in the senior in the town center and the stove 2047 03:16:50,800 --> 03:16:55,780 over items like that but that sounds like it's kind of being taken here but my 2048 03:16:55,780 --> 03:17:00,260 off base on that or we just because we're just changing like a time table around 2049 03:17:00,260 --> 03:17:05,460 purchasing for that. That's that's the way I understood it was then we were 2050 03:17:05,460 --> 03:17:12,800 changing one of the recommendations was that we put a stove up a stove on the 2051 03:17:12,800 --> 03:17:25,120 year and the way the purchase of the chairs until the year and you know that's 2052 03:17:25,120 --> 03:17:32,220 fine but in the scheme of things in the size of your budget that's not gonna make 2053 03:17:32,220 --> 03:17:41,480 a difference yeah I have what happy to do yeah it's all good so yeah I mean it is 2054 03:17:41,480 --> 03:17:48,480 just some sort of clarification, so we had talked about the need to create like a police vehicle replacement fund. 2055 03:17:49,140 --> 03:17:56,400 And this project has been proposed to you, we have begun. 2056 03:17:58,140 --> 03:18:06,420 That spreadsheet, we've started to work on that spreadsheet and we'll get that to you in the next week or so. 2057 03:18:06,420 --> 03:18:12,940 or it's already done that's just didn't get online but we have begun to do 2058 03:18:12,940 --> 03:18:17,820 that. So every vehicle that you purchase beginning current fiscal year, fiscal year 20, 2059 03:18:18,940 --> 03:18:25,940 will go into a vehicle replacement program. So from vehicle that is proposed to 2060 03:18:25,940 --> 03:18:30,500 the purchase and this fiscal year that you're looking at, this fiscal year that 2061 03:18:30,500 --> 03:18:38,440 you're looking at includes one seven of the costs of that vehicle. So the spreadsheet that you use to 2062 03:18:38,440 --> 03:18:46,640 looking at has all of the other sea vehicles in it, it will be the same vehicle replacement 2063 03:18:46,640 --> 03:18:52,860 part. There is no separate, there will be no separate police vehicle replacement part that will be a 2064 03:18:52,860 --> 03:18:56,720 the town of Pearl finds a pretty good place for funds and the police 2065 03:18:56,720 --> 03:18:58,800 vehicles will be added to that fund. 2066 03:18:59,420 --> 03:19:01,080 Okay, I get it. 2067 03:19:01,500 --> 03:19:06,860 And that will be ready for us before this budget is approved or... 2068 03:19:07,400 --> 03:19:10,300 Well, the funding is already in this budget that you're looking at. 2069 03:19:10,660 --> 03:19:12,840 Right, put this friendship in the car. 2070 03:19:14,180 --> 03:19:14,300 Go. 2071 03:19:17,620 --> 03:19:20,760 It'll be a chart that has three vehicles in it. 2072 03:19:25,480 --> 03:19:27,520 Okay, I see that. Thank you, Michelle. 2073 03:19:31,060 --> 03:19:39,560 Okay. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's just speaking from, you know, what I've seen in everything. 2074 03:19:40,000 --> 03:19:48,680 I would encourage councils to really think hard and, you know, but forward money into updating the installation 2075 03:19:48,680 --> 03:19:51,500 and then some of the stuff in the public works yard, 2076 03:19:51,840 --> 03:19:56,220 I know Maria had said words that people 2077 03:19:56,220 --> 03:19:58,000 who work in government understand 2078 03:19:58,000 --> 03:20:00,100 which is that public works is not necessarily 2079 03:20:00,100 --> 03:20:04,160 publicly accessible or public facing yard. 2080 03:20:04,580 --> 03:20:07,780 So it typically kind of gets pushed down 2081 03:20:07,780 --> 03:20:09,980 because people are not interacting with it as much, 2082 03:20:10,100 --> 03:20:14,420 but the isolation has done issue ever since I've been 2083 03:20:14,420 --> 03:20:15,780 on council on this shed as well. 2084 03:20:15,920 --> 03:20:18,360 I mean, these are all things that have been pushed 2085 03:20:18,360 --> 03:20:23,460 for, and I think it's worth our time to invest in, you know, maintaining those facilities 2086 03:20:24,280 --> 03:20:29,720 so that our public works team can work more efficiently, and that their equipment is 2087 03:20:29,720 --> 03:20:33,400 not damaged by some sort of brick storm. 2088 03:20:35,820 --> 03:20:38,140 But other than that, I will yield my time. 2089 03:20:41,310 --> 03:20:42,990 All right, thank you so much, Council Member Dewey. 2090 03:20:44,130 --> 03:20:50,150 Sure, thank you. You know, comment on individual items, so I'll just sort of talk big picture. 2091 03:20:50,150 --> 03:20:56,870 First, I'll just quickly answer the last question that was asked by Jody about the rates 2092 03:20:56,870 --> 03:20:58,130 saying the same or changing. 2093 03:20:58,770 --> 03:21:00,810 She sent me an email, so I'm going to try to clarify. 2094 03:21:01,490 --> 03:21:03,350 We didn't quite answer it all the way. 2095 03:21:03,630 --> 03:21:04,370 I don't think so. 2096 03:21:04,450 --> 03:21:05,950 The rate is remaining the same. 2097 03:21:06,570 --> 03:21:11,730 So if property assessed property values increase, revenue is predicted to increase slightly and 2098 03:21:11,730 --> 03:21:13,190 that is on the power point. 2099 03:21:13,330 --> 03:21:18,170 The summary power point, age five, is where folks could see that, just to be clear. 2100 03:21:18,170 --> 03:21:23,470 So the rate is staying the same, so you see that page five in the summary column. 2101 03:21:24,550 --> 03:21:30,410 So for, you know, from my own perspective, I always go back to, this happened to me 2102 03:21:30,410 --> 03:21:36,570 last year too, the items that I see as, you know, ones that I maybe hold off on or skip 2103 03:21:36,570 --> 03:21:40,990 those tend to be the ones that come out of restricted funds, the things that I think we could 2104 03:21:40,990 --> 03:21:46,170 wait on a little bit longer, and so it makes it a little challenging, right, so things like 2105 03:21:46,170 --> 03:21:50,150 the cable, as much as I think that's a good thing, it could wait, but we also have restricted 2106 03:21:50,150 --> 03:21:56,330 funds for that. So there's stuff sort of in that category that I feel comfortable moving 2107 03:21:56,330 --> 03:22:01,470 forward with because of the source of funding. And then I've seen other things, what comes 2108 03:22:01,470 --> 03:22:06,770 to mind, we talked in a work session about the sort of police special, really it was called 2109 03:22:06,770 --> 03:22:11,570 a special escort vehicle basically, and I think that that's no longer being requested, so 2110 03:22:11,570 --> 03:22:17,330 sort of pared down the thing that I was most so thank you for mentioning that because I forgot to 2111 03:22:18,470 --> 03:22:23,310 but before we went to a couple days ago, there was a 60,000 dollars in worth of money. 2112 03:22:23,990 --> 03:22:30,130 Yeah and you know G-Fans were gonna talk about it, you know, the most important thing 2113 03:22:30,830 --> 03:22:37,250 to tell us right now in those police officers and you know you added an officer 2114 03:22:45,120 --> 03:22:51,000 So we didn't want to go out of that, so we took that vehicle out of it. 2115 03:22:51,800 --> 03:22:52,700 Yeah, that's great. 2116 03:22:52,900 --> 03:22:55,780 And so, you know, I saw that had sauce peering down. 2117 03:22:56,020 --> 03:23:00,740 I saw some things that come from a source of funding that make their situation a little different. 2118 03:23:01,120 --> 03:23:05,620 And other than that, from my perspective, the remaining things that I see are pretty basic things. 2119 03:23:05,620 --> 03:23:14,540 We're talking both first mess, we're talking keeping our buildings safe and our equipment maintained and that sort of stuff makes a lot of sense. 2120 03:23:14,940 --> 03:23:23,360 So other than, you know, what I mentioned before about us keeping our eye on the ball as things right now are a little flupy as I'm honestly. 2121 03:23:25,180 --> 03:23:28,000 I'm comfortable going forward as much as we can. 2122 03:23:28,000 --> 03:23:38,080 I think one of our goals to Council Member Dolly was to not sacrifice too much this year 2123 03:23:38,080 --> 03:23:39,300 to compromise next year. 2124 03:23:40,060 --> 03:23:47,640 So you know, if you discontinued funding and your vehicle replacement fund, or you didn't 2125 03:23:47,640 --> 03:23:53,600 fix the building that was leaking, then cost you more next time around. 2126 03:23:53,600 --> 03:23:59,780 So, um, you know, we took some of that off the table. 2127 03:24:02,400 --> 03:24:03,320 I appreciate that. 2128 03:24:03,920 --> 03:24:07,100 We got to think a big picture a little bit, but I thank you very much. 2129 03:24:07,280 --> 03:24:08,080 So I'll yield my time. 2130 03:24:09,680 --> 03:24:11,040 Thank you so much, Council Member Osmond. 2131 03:24:12,240 --> 03:24:13,140 Thank you, Mayor. 2132 03:24:14,220 --> 03:24:17,040 I just had three things I wanted to share, 2133 03:24:18,000 --> 03:24:21,980 not so much for discussion, but just to contemplate 2134 03:24:22,880 --> 03:24:27,360 In the military, we're trained on contingency planning, which means worst case scenario. 2135 03:24:28,580 --> 03:24:34,500 Not that it's ever fun to think like that, but I want to know that if there is a tremendous 2136 03:24:34,500 --> 03:24:40,400 unemployment for a long time, and incomes go down, income tax go down, we'll need to be 2137 03:24:40,400 --> 03:24:47,760 prepared to have our priorities for how we will adjust to budget threats that may be caused 2138 03:24:47,760 --> 03:24:52,060 by the pandemic and the economic aftermath. 2139 03:24:53,080 --> 03:24:55,540 So in terms of enhancement priorities, 2140 03:24:55,980 --> 03:25:00,680 in terms of operations in maintenance and services, 2141 03:25:01,000 --> 03:25:03,380 priorities, worst case scenario, 2142 03:25:03,680 --> 03:25:06,440 we may want to at some point have a conversation 2143 03:25:06,440 --> 03:25:10,360 about what is the most essential critical thing 2144 03:25:10,360 --> 03:25:12,000 that's happening with absolutely fund. 2145 03:25:12,820 --> 03:25:15,560 And then if we don't get funding, what will we not fund? 2146 03:25:15,560 --> 03:25:19,480 So that's just a thought to put in everyone's head, not a fun goal. 2147 03:25:20,960 --> 03:25:24,080 Now second, there's a thing in life we call it inflation. 2148 03:25:24,980 --> 03:25:32,200 And I noticed in this budget that the concave, the audit services and others are having a gradual increase in their price. 2149 03:25:32,840 --> 03:25:39,500 And there's many things that cause prices to go up for people who offer services for more money. 2150 03:25:40,940 --> 03:25:46,400 I don't know if one of the reasons for why those organizations are selling us services 2151 03:25:46,400 --> 03:25:52,520 at a higher rate, but one thing to consider is if they're going up at a rate that's higher 2152 03:25:52,520 --> 03:25:58,900 than the trending inflation rate, then that's caused for me to think about maybe looking 2153 03:25:58,900 --> 03:25:59,960 at other providers. 2154 03:26:01,120 --> 03:26:06,680 Of course, technically content is the right solution, and auditors you've been with with 2155 03:26:06,680 --> 03:26:09,840 a really long time that you don't like to change, 2156 03:26:10,080 --> 03:26:13,460 just to keep an eye on how the increase 2157 03:26:13,460 --> 03:26:16,160 is from organizations selling this thing to go up. 2158 03:26:16,520 --> 03:26:19,160 And if that's very far above the inflation rate, 2159 03:26:19,420 --> 03:26:22,540 then that means the marketplace may need 2160 03:26:22,540 --> 03:26:24,180 to be spoken with again, 2161 03:26:24,340 --> 03:26:27,320 and in terms of finding other providers. 2162 03:26:31,020 --> 03:26:34,800 The third thing is I just wanted to thank everybody, 2163 03:26:35,140 --> 03:26:36,860 again, for all their hard work 2164 03:26:36,860 --> 03:26:43,120 in putting this box together, the late hours, the recognition of the circumstances we face 2165 03:26:43,120 --> 03:26:48,940 with this pandemic. And it's been quite a pleasure to work with you all in the second 2166 03:26:48,940 --> 03:26:55,320 budget season. And one day we'll have that lunch again together. Are you? 2167 03:26:56,580 --> 03:27:00,640 Thank you so much. I will come back to Mayor Breton Copp and Nichols. 2168 03:27:01,320 --> 03:27:02,560 All right. Thank you. 2169 03:27:05,010 --> 03:27:08,650 I probably look like a lot of the same things that have been said. 2170 03:27:09,070 --> 03:27:14,650 One thing I will note is that a lot of the stuff that we've talked about being able to do without 2171 03:27:16,490 --> 03:27:25,850 like new chairs and oven language pay has been mentioned not in this session but previously 2172 03:27:25,850 --> 03:27:28,250 and buy some residence in common between them. 2173 03:27:28,410 --> 03:27:32,870 All this stuff represents such minuscule amounts of the budget. 2174 03:27:35,250 --> 03:27:39,150 For instance, both things that I've talked about are about $5,000. 2175 03:27:39,270 --> 03:27:41,110 That's a tenth of a percent of our budget. 2176 03:27:43,950 --> 03:27:51,430 So I understand that some folks may think that they can do without, and that's fine, but we 2177 03:27:51,430 --> 03:28:00,770 You also need to think about in a year or 18 months down the road, whatever recession 2178 03:28:00,770 --> 03:28:03,270 is caused by what's going on is going to be over. 2179 03:28:04,010 --> 03:28:09,390 Everyone is predicting that this will be a fast recession going in and a faster recession 2180 03:28:09,390 --> 03:28:13,370 coming out because the cause is literally a violence. 2181 03:28:14,830 --> 03:28:19,030 And it's not some structural inefficiency like previous recessions. 2182 03:28:19,030 --> 03:28:28,030 So I think I need to consider that right now we are probably okay, we just need to keep 2183 03:28:28,030 --> 03:28:35,630 an eye on it as a council and as a staff and be prepared to at various points during 2184 03:28:35,630 --> 03:28:36,270 the year. 2185 03:28:36,410 --> 03:28:41,590 Might want to set up a mid-year check-in, have a check-in and say September, October time 2186 03:28:41,590 --> 03:28:48,350 frame, do more check-in points to make sure that we are on the path that we expect as 2187 03:28:48,350 --> 03:28:56,550 much today, and be prepared to make more adjustments during the year. As opposed to necessarily 2188 03:28:57,170 --> 03:29:03,630 trying to cut back things now when we, as Maria says, and as I think we all know, we honestly 2189 03:29:03,630 --> 03:29:07,650 have no idea where we're going to be next week, little alone, pretty much. 2190 03:29:10,190 --> 03:29:10,830 That's my 2191 03:29:10,830 --> 03:29:12,490 That's my thing. I'll yield my time. 2192 03:29:14,130 --> 03:29:16,590 Thank you so much, Council Member Osmond, you had your hand up? 2193 03:29:21,050 --> 03:29:24,710 Yes, I did. I appreciate what Mayor Votem has just said. 2194 03:29:24,810 --> 03:29:29,790 And I wanted to say there's a phrase that I once heard in life that I think is an important phrase to think about. 2195 03:29:31,430 --> 03:29:34,290 Penny wise pound foolish. 2196 03:29:35,310 --> 03:29:44,130 And the concept of that cliche is that if you're more concerned about little pennies here 2197 03:29:44,130 --> 03:29:51,450 in there, you might be missing the bigger things. So, I don't believe one ought to be penny-wise 2198 03:29:51,450 --> 03:29:58,390 and pound foolish, I think, recognizing the proportions of dollars as they relate to each other. 2199 03:30:04,000 --> 03:30:29,980 Thank you. Thank you so much. My, really, my only comment in listening to everyone through this specific budget. One of the things that I've really noticed, even more so now was that our town manager, our treasurer, everyone that has their hands in their hands. 2200 03:30:29,980 --> 03:30:34,220 in the budget are so detail focused and detail oriented 2201 03:30:34,600 --> 03:30:37,380 and really monitoring very closely 2202 03:30:37,800 --> 03:30:43,220 that I feel very safe and secure with what they're doing. 2203 03:30:43,480 --> 03:30:45,160 So while Mayor Pro Tem is saying, 2204 03:30:45,420 --> 03:30:47,160 do a check-in in September, October, 2205 03:30:47,580 --> 03:30:50,660 I do agree with a check-in, 2206 03:30:50,940 --> 03:30:53,920 but I also know and I could probably speak 2207 03:30:54,460 --> 03:30:58,680 for town manager Robin that anything that comes up, 2208 03:30:58,680 --> 03:31:07,420 any changes, any necessary things that occur, we will find out before a particular meeting 2209 03:31:08,000 --> 03:31:16,580 would occur. And one of the things that I really and comforted in is the fact that 2210 03:31:17,500 --> 03:31:25,520 town manager, broadband as well as Treasurer Rodriguez, took the time even last night up until 930 2211 03:31:25,520 --> 03:31:32,380 to really look at our budget and really have those conversations with everybody to really 2212 03:31:32,380 --> 03:31:39,360 say, look, this is a situation that we need to address, and we're on the front end of 2213 03:31:39,360 --> 03:31:46,100 it. We're not on the back end of it. And I feel very confident, I feel very secure with 2214 03:31:46,100 --> 03:31:53,140 this budget. I'm not stressed in the least. You know, everything that everyone has said, 2215 03:31:53,140 --> 03:32:01,700 and I think is valid, appropriate as well as, you know, I think urban heights, you know, 2216 03:32:02,060 --> 03:32:09,040 I think we're in a very good place at this point. We're not knowing what is to come. I think 2217 03:32:09,040 --> 03:32:14,780 we've really done our due diligence and I know that we will continue to do our due diligence 2218 03:32:14,780 --> 03:32:21,040 with everyone that's in their particular and specific departments understanding where 2219 03:32:21,040 --> 03:32:26,480 we're at at this point. So, um, with that, I mean, everything that we talked about today, 2220 03:32:27,020 --> 03:32:32,560 um, you know, I'm really not concerned at this point about it. It's, you know, 2221 03:32:33,740 --> 03:32:38,500 it will come when it comes and we will, we will address it and deal with it as we need to, 2222 03:32:38,680 --> 03:32:43,920 or we're doing the best that we can with, with what we have and the information that we have, 2223 03:32:44,480 --> 03:32:50,060 and just as a reminder, to even our residents, keep in mind that the budget is still a working 2224 03:32:50,600 --> 03:32:56,880 document. It is very fluid and we go back in and out and I know town manager Rod 2225 03:32:56,880 --> 03:33:01,200 Ben and Trezer or Rodriguez will get it very closely to ensure that we're 2226 03:33:01,200 --> 03:33:05,660 right where we need to be so that we're not really playing catch up at that 2227 03:33:05,660 --> 03:33:11,860 point. So with that I you know again I think I think both of you and everyone 2228 03:33:11,860 --> 03:33:17,900 that's involved in this for keeping us really where we need to be in this time 2229 03:33:21,230 --> 03:33:27,330 at this point any further comments from the council from town manager 2230 03:33:28,690 --> 03:33:30,410 Tracer Rodriguez, any departments? 2231 03:33:30,890 --> 03:33:39,610 Mr. Mayor, if I may, I was going to ask with the mayor of council and staffs down just for a second after the 2232 03:33:43,770 --> 03:34:09,530 and just to remind folks that the record is open, you know, email councilmembers can have any thoughts on the budget, but you're going to have two hearings, one on April 15th, one on May 13th, and final vote from the council on May 13th, but those are your opportunities to, you know, 2233 03:34:09,530 --> 03:34:10,250 a little deeper. 2234 03:34:11,150 --> 03:34:13,410 Staff is certainly here to answer any questions for you. 2235 03:34:14,850 --> 03:34:17,530 The easiest way to reach me, so give me some time 2236 03:34:17,530 --> 03:34:20,630 to research your answer is if you would email me 2237 03:34:20,630 --> 03:34:23,650 and brought that up at www.feroantide.gov if you've 2238 03:34:23,650 --> 03:34:25,830 got a structural budget question. 2239 03:34:28,210 --> 03:34:30,530 Please let me know, and I'll give you 2240 03:34:30,530 --> 03:34:31,730 an answer as fast as you can. 2241 03:34:33,430 --> 03:34:34,670 Thank you for everybody. 2242 03:34:41,070 --> 03:34:45,150 And with that, we've come to the end of our budget session. 2243 03:34:45,150 --> 03:34:46,490 Do I have a motion to adjourn? 2244 03:34:49,300 --> 03:34:51,760 I'll give you a motion to adjourn this budget session. 2245 03:34:52,100 --> 03:34:53,040 I will second. 2246 03:34:53,620 --> 03:34:53,900 Okay. 2247 03:34:54,060 --> 03:34:55,200 And further discussion on it. 2248 03:34:56,320 --> 03:34:57,240 All those in favor? 2249 03:34:58,140 --> 03:34:58,500 Aye. 2250 03:34:58,980 --> 03:34:59,080 Right. 2251 03:34:59,700 --> 03:34:59,960 Aye. 2252 03:34:59,960 --> 03:35:03,540 We've got 10. 2253 03:35:04,520 --> 03:35:04,720 And we've gone. 2254 03:35:04,720 --> 03:35:05,360 Can we get more guys? 2255 03:35:05,680 --> 03:35:05,780 12. 2256 03:35:05,880 --> 03:35:06,080 13. 2257 03:35:06,380 --> 03:35:07,200 16 and 15. 2258 03:35:07,620 --> 03:35:07,740 16.