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That's a little bit better there. I pray
that your day have been a blessed day

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all day long.
So, at this time, I will ask that you

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turn off all cell phones or put them
place them on silent. [clears throat]

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Excuse me.

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» I would I will now call this meeting of
the Betha board of commissions to order.

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The time is 602.

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The date is September [clears throat]
the 1st, 2026. At this time, we're going

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to have a roll call. Commissioner Jones
>> here.

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» Commissioner Whitehurst
>> here.

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» Mayor Promp Griggs
>> here.

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» Commissioner Lily
>> here.

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» Commissioner Conger [clears throat]
>> here.

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» Madame Clerk, we do have a quorum. At
this time, I would like for the board of

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commissioners to look at the agenda to
see if there's anything unethical or

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immoral on the agenda.

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There's nothing unethical or immoral on
the agenda that you see at this time.

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We're going to ask Mayor Promp Griggs to
lead us in our invocation.

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» Let us bow our heads. Father, in the
name of Jesus, we just want to say thank

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you for this day, a day that we never
seen before. We thank you that our

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[clears throat] circles and our families
have not been broken on today. We just

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like to say thank you. We ask that you
would give us um safe passage in this

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meeting that we would do as business as
men do in business and let us be well

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pleased with the outcome of our meeting
on tonight in Jesus name. Amen.

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» Amen.
>> Amen. At this time, we're going to ask

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one our very own our county
commissioner, Commissioner Mary Perkins

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Williams to lead us in our pledge of
allegiance.

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To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

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stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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At this time, I would [clears throat]
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if I have a motion to approve the
proposed agenda.

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» Mayor, if I can ask the board to
entertain adding an item under old

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business. I refer the first item. That
would be a report um from myself and

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representatives from the Pit County
Inspections Department regarding our

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condemnation process where we're we're
we're doing some condemnations to take

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down some dilapidated structures in
town. [cough and clears throat]

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» Okay. Do I have a motion that we add to
add the report for the Pit County

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inspection?
>> So move.

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» Okay. Motion made by Commissioner Lily.
Do I have a second?

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» A second.
>> Second by Mayor Pro Tim Greg. [snorts]

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All in [clears throat] favor right hand.
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Okay. And that was added to old
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» For number one.
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All right. At this time, do I have a
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» So move.
>> Okay. Motion made by Commissioner Lily.

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Do I have a second?
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» Second by Mayor of Commissioner Conger.
[clears throat] All in favor by raising

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your right hand.
Any opposed? Motion carried unanimous.

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Next to claim our attention will be item
E, our consent agenda. Do I have a

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motion to approve our minutes from the
special call meeting on July 14th, 2026

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and the minutes for the monthly meeting
August 4th, 2026?

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» So move.
>> Motion made by [clears throat]

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Commissioner Lily. Do I have a second?
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All in favor raise your right hand.

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Okay. Can we put them back up? Make
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Motion carry unanimous. The next thing
to claim our attention will be uh public

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comments.

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And uh first on our [clears throat]
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And we ask that you will you have five
minutes um to for public comments. And

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just to let you know uh public comments
provides an opportunity for residents to

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com comment on any item included on the
agenda or to address the town board on

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any matter related to the town of Bethl.
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we ask that you state your name and your
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All right. Good evening, friends. I'm
Trisha Workah. I live 213 Railroad

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Street here in Bethl. And I am here to
as a concerned resident about um

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planning and what we can do as a
community and you guys as a board can do

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to be proactive regarding weather events
that are we are [snorts] going to be

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just essentially having for the next few
years. Um, I don't know how many people

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follow weather patterns, but we're
walking into like an LU [clears throat]

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event, which we don't know how it's
going to treat the world. We we are

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looking at a lot of struggles um
globally from the impacts and I'm coming

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to you guys this week. We are under a
heat advisory and I know a lot of

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residents in this town don't have AC and
I'm asking what can we as a you guys as

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a board do? What can we as a community
do to take care of our residents who

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don't have AC, who don't have access to
cooling stations, who don't have access

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to ways to get out of the
life-threatening conditions that we are

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going to be under far more far more
regularly. And so, while we're only

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going to be under a heat advisory for a
few days this week, it is going to

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become a more regular thing. we will
have more heat extremes that are

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endangering lives. And I don't want
those heat extremes to be endangering

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lives in our community if we can if we
can prevent it. And so I'm coming to you

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guys to say, can we plan for that? What
can we do this week perhaps to take care

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of our residents who are going to be
struggling? What grants are available to

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help them get their houses up to where
they need to be done? But I am inviting

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you guys as a board to start doing these
things and researching this so we can

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make sure everyone in the community is
taken care of. There's this saying that

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it goes the average Roman, they didn't
know Rome was failing. It was just the

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local bridge went out one day and no one
ever showed up to repair it.

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» [clears throat]
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I don't want that to happen here in our
community where things need to be get

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done, get to take things need to be
taken care of and no one shows up to do

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it. Thank you guys for your time. Have a
wonderful evening.

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» Thank you. Next [snorts] up for public
comments, Mr. Jerome Brown and Miss

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Once again, we ask that you state your
name and your address.

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» Good evening. I'm Carolyn Mayo. Um, we
are the owners of Bethl Pharmacy, which

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is 7433 Main Street. Uh, Coffee Shop and
More, which is 123 West Railroad Street.

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Bethl Hardware, which is 7389 South Main
Street. Um, so,

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» and I'm Jerome Brown.
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» Um we're here this evening to present to
the board our project which is rule

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renewal. You're all aware of what we um
what our plan is for Bethl. And um just

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wanted to kind of give you an idea of
what the bigger picture is for Bethl in

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addition to all the rural areas that we
plan on going into. So the project name

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is called rural renewal and um it
represents where people eat, live, live,

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work, play and age. Those are those are
the social determinants of health. We're

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a healthcare company and what we
realized in rural areas is that um we

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need to rural areas need a better
quality of life and that's what our aim

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is. So, the pharmacy provides access to
medication. The hardware store provides

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um essential needs and tools that you
may need for your home. Um and so you

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don't have to drive 20, 30 minutes away
to get a screw that Mr. Brown always

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says. Um also the coffee shop provides
entertainment. Um and that's

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[clears throat] ne necessary for your
quality of life. Um the other things

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that we are planning in the future is
the grocery store in addition to a

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boutique that's behind the hardware
store. So all of those things affect a

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person's health and we are determined um
to pro promote and also build in rural

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areas. We're not just wanting to do a
stop or drivebys or um things that are

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not permanent, but we are planning on
remaining in Bethl and then going in

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other areas. So, Mr. Brown, would you
like to say anything before?

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» Yes, just a couple comments. So, the re
renewal strategy is a big thing now. As

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you may know, uh of the hundred counties
in North Carolina, 80 of them are rural.

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We're North Carolina have the second
largest rural area in United States next

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to Texas. You hear that? The second
largest rural area in United States next

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to Texas. So rural strategy and it says
um I can't read the back of my shirt,

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but [snorts] it said what does it say?
>> Rural renewal.

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» We believe
>> and we got to believe in Bethl. So we're

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passionate about this one in 2023
article written about Bethl um on

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national magazine. We can give it to you
all as well. So we're here for a long

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term. Um we're we want to do
transformation. You know, one of the

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things that I know Scott and the mayor
preach about is not coming make them

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stop but going forward. So it's a lot of
work. It's a lot of financial

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requirements for the work to make it
happen. We believe and we're doing it

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our own from that perspective. So rule
strategy will be having these t-shirts

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around whatever to market to sell
whatever. But rural renewal is what it

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all about. It won't make you all aware.
Nothing special about it. Just a mindset

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you got to start with first. my mind
feel differently then my body will act

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and my living condition will act so the
social determinance of health is a major

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item that they're trying to address in
the world and we want to do it here

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Bethl is the only town that has the
things in place soon to be a city and I

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told the government soon to be the
capital in a couple years [snorts] but I

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believe right mayor and Scott
>> that's right

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» so you got to believe it so that's the
mindset we have uh that miss Carol and I

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have it's great being here love it we
commute

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um four, five, six times a day and we
love it. My truck has 217,000 miles on

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it and it's only three years old.
>> Four years old, right?

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» She beats me about it but all the time.
But it's all Beth M. So that was it. I

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don't run out of time. Believe in the
strategy. As my t-shirt says, we say

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rule renewal starts in Bethl and we
thank you for your time and all the

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parties, all the cities, all y'all do
come by our place. We appreciate the

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business no matter what because if we
can keep that going, we can do more in

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Beth. We thank you all from our heart.
>> And one more thing is um the reason why

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we have on these two shirts is because
the we believe is all about community.

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It's not just Jerome and I that we
believe but we we are we have um

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providing all of these for the town for
the board so that you can be a part of

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what we're doing. It's not anything that
we're trying to do individually, but

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this takes the communities and we it
won't last unless the community believes

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in rural renewal. Um, and so that's why
we're wearing these. We'll have them in

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different colors. U, we'd love to see
the community put them on and wear them

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around town, wear them wherever you go
because we want to see change, not just

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as Mr. Brown stated and the mayor and
all of the board, it's just not a stop.

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This is renewing rule. Um the state does
have a program this rural health

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transformation program. It's about 50
200 million that they've received

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already. Um but anyway, this is this is
totally separate. So thank you for your

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» All right. Thank [clears throat] you,
Mr. Brown. Miss Miss Mayo

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rule renewal. That's all right.
Next to claim our attention is our

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public
>> Yes, sir.

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» our public hearing. And at this time,
we'll go into our public hearing. And

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I'll turn it over [snorts] to our entry
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» Yes. So, tonight we have the second
public hearing on our community

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development block grant applications.
This is the CDBG

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um- NR. NR stands for neighborhood
revitalization. We held the um last

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public hearing at your last meeting on
August 4th. Um so tonight we would

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invite anybody who has any comments
regarding the town submitting its second

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um application. The application will be
for the like amount of money that we did

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the first time, $950,000.
Um I believe our intent and Ben you can

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correct me if you want to come to the
podium. our consultant Ben Jones. Our

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intent would be to do four more
replacement homes, I believe.

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» Um, and [clears throat]
Mr. Jones has been um interviewing those

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who have asked to be contacted to see if
they might qualify to be considered by

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the the committee, the housing committee
that will be um making a selection,

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making a recommendation to the town
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Add anything else I may have missed?
>> Um, I I think you covered it, but um

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I'll just uh ditto it. Um, just like uh
our town manager said, this is our

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second public hearing. The applications
for the community development block

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grant are due on October the 13th, and
we are actively um working on surveys

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and identifying homes that will be
considered for the uh community

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development block grant program. The
town will be applying for the maximum

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amount, as he stated, $950,000.
and um

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» and that will consist of all housing
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» Okay. Uh are there any are there any uh
question from the board?

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» Yes, I have a question. um the houses or
the properties that were chosen last

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year, do you have any idea when those um
construction will begin on those?

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» I I currently uh don't have an estimated
timeline. So, um the best I can give you

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is just kind of an update of where we're
at. So, in June of this year, we

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submitted um all of our documentation to
the state that they've requested and um

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essentially started a comment period for
them to review. Um they've exceeded that

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amount of time and we're just waiting on
them to respond. And um I've followed up

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with them on two occasions already. Um
they responded recently and just said,

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"Thank you for your patience. We're
working on it." And um so really we're

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just waiting on them and as soon as we
get their approval then we'll be full

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steam ahead.
>> So Commissioner White, just to repeat,

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we've we've submitted all the paperwork,
all the documents. You've taken all the

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actions. Um we're waiting for their
environmental reviews like Ben is saying

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and it's in [clears throat] their hands.
As soon as we get that clearance, we'll

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be be ready to roll and
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» Yeah. Essentially what we're waiting on
from them is um we the request for

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release of funds. So, we've done the
environmentals, we've done [snorts] all

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the compliance plans, we've sent it all
in, and we've said, "Hey, we've done it

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all. Do you agree? If so, we want to
start spending our money." And so, we're

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just waiting on them to agree and say,
"Yes, you've got release of funds." And

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then, as soon as we have that, then we
can start doing uh, you know, asbestous

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inspections and surveys and all the
things and then take the house plans to

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the residents so they can pick their new
house and um, and then bid it out, put

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it out to a contractor. So soon as we
get that, I mean, it'll just be a maybe

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a month or two turnaround before we have
a contractor selected.

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» So you're going to bid it out to a
single contractor or more than

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» it'll be a open bid process. So we will
um advertise it in the newspaper and

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we'll [clears throat] also direct
solicit um known contractors that work

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on these grant programs. probably a bid
list of um you know six or seven

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contractors that I've worked with
throughout the past and then obviously

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any other local contractors are invited
if they would be interested in bidding

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then they can request a a bid.
>> Ben, can you clarify? Will each house be

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a separate bid? A contractor won't bid
one price on all four houses, but you

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you'll have a separate price for each
house.

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» Correct. Yes, sir. We'll put them all
out together, but each [clears throat]

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house will be its own line item and a
individual contractor could win each

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house.

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[clears throat]
>> Are there any other question from the

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board? Okay. At this
>> I was just going to ask about that the

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housing selection committee. I know we
talked about it a little bit the last

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time, right? Uh
uh is that committee and I know we have

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some information in here about the size
of it.

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» Is that pretty much uh in place in stone
for that committee?

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» We have not formulated the committee
since we had the one we had last year

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for the first application. And again, on
that one, it was the mayor, myself at

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the time, um, Miss Griggs before she got
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» and Miss Margaret Witherspoon.
>> Witherspoon.

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» We had a a citizen in the last board
meeting who said they'd like to be on

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it. Um, [clears throat]

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» Miss Hall,
>> Mary Hall. Yeah, Mary Hall. And um if

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the board is satisfied with that group,
do the documents say that I appoint that

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committee or does the board appoint
them?

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» I would have to review them. I think
it's pretty it's not really a

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necessarily a board appointed thing. I
mean, you could appoint the committee.

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It's
>> okay.

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» It's just however the town wants to
handle it.

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» If the board's comfortable with that, we
we will go forward with with those

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people unless you've got additional
people you would you would like to be

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appointed to it. We like to keep it kind
of small to be manageable if possible.

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[clears throat]

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» So if somebody comes forward you will
consider them.

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» Sure.
>> Okay.

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» For the committee.
>> Yes.

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my well I would say this would sort of
be my concern because the committee

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would only be uh the town officials
>> keep in mind the committee will make a

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recommendation we'll come back to you as
a board you will then vote on whether

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you agree with
the the houses being selected both for

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the the four primary houses and three or
four alternates that we might have. So

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ultimately you you as the town board
will

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stamp the approval of that list.
So there's just advisory.

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So we'll come back. I think we were
projecting October 6th the next meeting.

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» Does the well does the committee
actually go out to inspect the

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properties? How does that work?
>> Mr. Jones does the in-depth review of

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each of the houses. He takes pictures.
He then provides a think last time we

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had a packet of photos, pictures printed
out about an inch thick. He then reviews

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each of those houses with the committee
and um I guess if we needed to go out we

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» So he will go out and do all the
inspections and things.

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» Yeah. He literally goes in the house,
correct?

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» Yeah. Yeah. We've been working on that.
We've [clears throat] been here probably

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three or four days already and um we
just have another probably another day

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or so to work through um trying to get
through the rest of our our list. Um but

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yeah, we'll present we'll put all the
photos together in a in a document

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whether like a PDF and whatnot and then
present it to the board. They're able to

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review the photos of the homes and then
also the applications that has the

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demographic information, the age of the
resident, the number of residents, and

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so forth.

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» I'd like to say um can I Yeah. All it's
not just the board that's on that

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committee. We do have residents
>> that are on that committee.

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Correct. Any

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other question for
Mr. Jones from the board? At this time,

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we we'll open it up to the public. Uh is
there any question you have?

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» Come to
>> If you come to the podium, please, and

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state your name and your address.

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My name is Mary Hall and I'm the one
that wants to be on that board with

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them. So when he said he he got a list
and he's already started.

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» Could you Could you state your address
for us please?

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» Oh Mary Hall 3535 Smith Street, North
Carolina 27812.

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I just want to know how do you pick the
people that's on the list that he say

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he's been going to look at or whatever
cuz somebody here I don't know. I'm on

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the board to help make a decision. So, I
want to know how it start from the

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beginning. How do you decide who's on
that list that we're voting to make a

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decision on?

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» Are you saying the list of names that he
will give the committee?

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» Yes.
>> So, originally starts with

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people.
>> Ben, can you come to the podium? So,

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televised.
>> Yeah. So, it um just essentially the way

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it's working in Bethl right now is uh
any resident who feels that they meet

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the criteria of the grant um which would
mean that they own their home, they live

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in their home, they're they're they meet
the income requirements and their home

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is real property and that they have
obviously apparent need for repair.

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they've been able to come to town hall
and the town's been keeping a running

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list of people and then we've received
that list and we've reached out to

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contact all those people. Um I think we
have a few that we'd like to contact at

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this point and um we've reached out to
them. Um if we don't get answers, we

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leave messages and then the ones that we
that answer us um we set up a time to

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come to their home to view their home
and to complete a survey. And then once

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we've completed that, those surveys will
be uh presented to the housing selection

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committee and then they will review
those surveys and the photographs of the

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home. And
>> but that's not not that not cutting you

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off. That's not what I was asking. I was
just asking about the list.

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» How do the people that's on the list be
aware of how to get on the list? I

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haven't heard anybody mention it. I was
at the last meeting.

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» Was it mentioned [clears throat] before
the meeting?

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» 45 people on the list. [snorts] So they
>> Yeah, we've had a lot of people sign up.

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We've advertised in the paper both of
these public hearings. We've posted it,

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I believe, on our website. Um we've
announced it here during during the

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board meetings. Um the CDBG in our
program is not a new new thing for

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BETHL. This is this should we've had a
lot of people throughout the year who

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who have called in to inquire, hey, when
are you going to do it again? Can I get

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my name on the list? Um the purpose of a
public hearing, advertising for a public

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hearing is to allow people to come ask
questions like like yourself. the the

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bottom line of what the process Ben goes
through and then the committee and

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ultimately the board is to determine
hopefully those homes, those residential

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structures in the most need based upon
low and moderate income threshold that

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that need this. Not that they want it,
but they truly need it.

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» Okay. Well, I'm satisfied. I just wanted
to know if I'm going to be on the board.

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I want to know what I'm dealing with.
Thank you.

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» You're welcome.
Yes, ma'am. Could you come to the

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podium, please?

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» Carolyn Mayo again. Um, the address, you
need the address.

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» Yes. 7433 Main Street, Bethl Pharmacy.
And um, and this question is regarding

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to Bethl Hardware, 7389 South Main
Street, Bethl. Um, to the board and to

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um, what's your name again?
Then as far as um any new bids coming in

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to build, are you accepting for
construction or the developers? How

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what's that process like? And then the
second thing is um is there a

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requirement to use any of the vendors
here in Bethl, for instance, Bethl

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Hardware for some of the flooring? Um
you know, anything like that? Is there a

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process or requirement to use some Bethl
um small businesses?

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Keane, you want to make rent a judgement
on that?

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» Well,
I mean the purpose of public hearings

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um is a little large and widespread. I
would it's my opinion that we just um

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answer this cont
[snorts]

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it's it's sort of all part and partial.
>> Yeah. The only reason I ask is because

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we're mixing public hearing from 26
grant and now we're asking questions

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about 25 grant. Um but uh no, there's
not a requirement for them to purchase

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materials at any particular um vendor.
Um but any local contractor um maybe if

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you have um contractors that purchase
from you guys regularly, they would be

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invited to bid and um
[clears throat and cough] and you know

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they could reach out and get a bid
package and then but I'm sure that just

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naturally it being so convenient that
the contractors probably will um reach

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out and buy material from you that they
can buy.

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» Yeah. Thank you.
Is there any other question

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[clears throat] from the the audience?
If there's no other question, we'll now

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close this. The public hearing is now
closed.

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Okay. Thank y'all so much. At this time,
we'll proceed on to the old business and

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and first up we going to ask u I'mma
turn it over to the manager and he's

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going to straight from there.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor, board members. So

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tonight we want to just make a brief
report regarding the um process of which

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the board has authorized and sanctioned.
We I think probably two years ago you

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set aside a sum of money out of the fun
[clears throat] balance to condemn

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vacant dilapidated properties in town
and it's taken us a while to um get that

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program rolling. But we've identified
well over a dozen structures and there's

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probably those are just residential.
There's quite a few non-residential

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structures as well. But we have started
the process. The town of Bethl contracts

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with Pit County inspections, Pit County
government for all of our inspection

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needs. That also includes the the
process to condemn properties that are

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dilapidated and need to be taken care of
through that process. So, we've done two

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two properties so far. Um, we've gone
through two two different public

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hearings. We have representatives from
the P County Inspections Department

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here, Steve Allen and Renise Keys. Um
the first one um is the structure here

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on Railroad Street, 191 Railroad Street.
Um that one has been condemned and they

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have been given 60 days to um um Steve,
you want to come come up? I don't want

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to misspe here, but that has been
condemned. They did take out a

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demolition permit. Um their intent is to
demolish it. If they don't demolish it

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within 60 days at then thereafter at
some point the town will then have the

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authority sir
>> to do what it needs to do to bring the

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house down. The sharks are down.
>> Yes, sir. All right. So, I'm Steve

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Allen. Um I'm going to put 1717 um East
Fifth Street to West Fifth Street,

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Greenville. Um,
if I'm not mistaken, 191 um, Railroad

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Street, which is down the street, has
been given a fact of finding from the

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hearing that states that they will be
have till October 30th was the last

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Friday of the month to um, be actively
working on the house to tear it down.

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Um, they're giving instructions not to
do one, two before a weekend or

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whatever. I need to see active uh
process. If at the time of day 30 or 61

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that they are not actively tearing it
down, then it will fall into Bethl's

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hands to uh um continue with the
condemnation and the demolition at their

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their speed, their their request orever
how fast they need to have it done. So

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that would be turned over. Our second
hearing um was scheduled. We had one

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last week for 190 Andrew Street. Um with
it

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we had a little bit of um kickback
because the homeowners are unable to be

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reached. One has passed away, one's in a
nursing home. So that one unfortunately

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we're going to start over since they're
not showing up. Hopefully in two weeks

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have an additional hearing from that to
make sure all our tees are crossed and

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do eye dotted. So we we are trying to
expedite um a lot of commendations. I

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think we had a list maybe 12 to 13. So
that is a process and thanks to the help

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of uh Scott, we are moving forward kind
of rapidly.

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» So we've we've given them a list of five
additional properties. Now that we've

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kind of nailed this process down, um,
and also we we intend to hopefully

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partner with the Bethl Fire Department,
those structures that we can burn for a

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training exercise for the Bethl Fire
Department and other departments they

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partner with for training exercises, we
will burn down. There may be some that

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are are located too close to an
adjoining structure that can't be burned

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down. In that case, you'd have to have
them to tore down, per se. But if

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they're burned down, um that'll save the
town substantial money. We will we'll

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have cleanup cost of the foundation and
any debris that's left after that

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burning. But we're hoping to stretch our
money and all the ones that we can burn

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down through a training exercise will
burn down. So this ball is rolling and

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um we are hopefully going to see some
properties cleaned up.

410
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» Yes, sir.
>> Thank you.

411
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:23,840
» So thank you. I don't know if the board
had any questions. [clears throat]

412
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:29,120
» Yes, I do. Is the list of properties
available publicly

413
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:32,640
» uh that that are are you're going to
seek condemnation of?

414
00:32:30,399 --> 00:32:37,440
» Yes, we actually have a like a fourpage
spreadsheet of um of properties. Not all

415
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:42,640
not all the ones we were condemned, but
there's condemnations on there. There's

416
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:47,279
junk um help me here, Linda. Junk
vehicles. There's ones with grass

417
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:50,880
issues. Forget all the categories of the
four.

418
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:55,200
» I had high grass, excessive bushes,
junk. as far as major rehab and tear

419
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,320
downs.
>> But yes, we have we had supplied that I

420
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,080
thought to the board about a year ago,
but we we need to update that because

421
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,519
it's been a year, but we'd be happy to
do that. And technically, that's a

422
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,000
public record if somebody want to see
it.

423
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,960
» Okay.
Thank you.

424
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:15,840
And if I can get this in and it might
need to be a a conversation for another

425
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:21,519
time, but like uh when I was talking to
people about the community development

426
00:33:18,399 --> 00:33:27,279
block grant and I was stopped by um some
people were living in homes. Do we have

427
00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:31,039
uh any type of uh minimum housing
standards like these people that are

428
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,919
renting homes to people?
Uh do we have anything in place for that

429
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,440
kind of thing?
>> We we do in the the town's code of

430
00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:43,039
ordinances. There's a whole whole
section on that.

431
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:45,679
» Okay. What we lack is truly a code
enforcement

432
00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:50,480
» falser
>> um to really bird dog all these issues

433
00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:56,640
whe there's a lot of things in the code
of ordinances that um unless it really

434
00:33:52,720 --> 00:34:02,159
comes pushed to shove that kind of just
go by get by whether it's a rooster

435
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:06,559
crowing that was one issue that I I took
on and it took a while of letters and

436
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:11,839
knocking on doors and talking to them
and then even finding

437
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:15,520
of a minimal fee, but they finally did
back their year get rid of that the

438
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:21,200
rooster that was causing a an issue to
the neighboring property owners. Okay.

439
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:26,800
» And if I may add to it, and this is I'm
going address this to the board as a

440
00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:30,639
board of commissioners, as you ride
through the community through the town,

441
00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:36,960
you will see these dilapidated
structures. You will see how your the

442
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:42,560
citizens in Betha are living. And if you
would make note of what you see, bring

443
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:48,399
it back to the manager and myself, and
we'll continue to do what we we've done

444
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:53,359
as far as putting together a a list of
of houses and just the overall condition

445
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:58,000
of how the community looks. Uh that
that's where we need you guys' help at

446
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:02,480
to because there's there's some that it
it that way it's [clears throat] still a

447
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:08,880
hard decision when you got to sit down
and look that okay well does this person

448
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:13,200
needs to need u say to be on this list
versus another person need to be on the

449
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:17,200
list and at the same time we've had
houses that's been here for years that

450
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:21,760
have should have been turned torn down
years ago

451
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:25,920
» and nothing really took place and so
we're We're we're beginning to move

452
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:30,320
forward. Not only do we have houses, but
we have buildings that need to be towing

453
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:36,560
down that we're trying to move forward
on. And um it's a it's a slow process

454
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:42,800
and sometime it can be a little painful
especially when you have a more than one

455
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:48,079
sibling that's I guess oversee the
property or whatever. But that that's

456
00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:51,760
where we at with that. Yes, sir. Um,
we've talked about a code enforcement

457
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:56,400
officer before, but we just never seem
to get around to um hiring one. Um, you

458
00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:59,839
know, Mr. What's his name?
>> M. Uh, Mr. Uman. [clears throat]

459
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,040
Mr.
>> Heyman. Yes. He, you know, he was a

460
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,839
sheriff's deputy.
>> Yes.

461
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:09,920
» And he would be very very suited for
that. But then that kind of died.

462
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:14,480
» Well, actually, I've spoken with him. It
hasn't died down yet. He just got to

463
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:20,079
» take some time to come up here so that
we can talk with the manager and then

464
00:36:17,359 --> 00:36:24,240
bring it to the board. Okay. Of what he
he wants to do.

465
00:36:21,839 --> 00:36:30,040
» It's also wrapped around budget
constraints too. How much

466
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,040
» I understand that. Yes.

467
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:40,560
» Are there any other questions in
reference?

468
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:43,119
Okay. All right. I'll let the manager
you move forward.

469
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:47,680
» Okay. So, the first formal item on old
business is a local work group for the

470
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:52,560
strategic economic development plan.
You've heard twice on this already where

471
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:59,119
you've adopted the um program documents
to do this. The um Department of

472
00:36:55,119 --> 00:37:03,599
Commerce is asking the town to appoint a
a small working group that would be

473
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:08,720
meeting for a limited time to work on
this. And you can see on the second page

474
00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:13,359
behind the the abstract the different
suggested categories of people. Um

475
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:17,920
internally we kind of brainstormed a
number of people that we thought could

476
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:22,640
serve on this. You'll see those names um
that could very well be added to if you

477
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:27,040
have other people that that you think um
should be considered. I do believe um

478
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:30,960
there were two names on here um Linda
that we said we weren't able to get up

479
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:37,680
with. Cassie Penland from um
packagecraft and was it Tim Goddard?

480
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:43,706
» It was Tim Goddard and Kevin Adams.
>> Kevin and Kevin Adams. Okay. But

481
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:46,640
everybody else was agreeable. Okay. Um
[clears throat]

482
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:51,119
I really need to get this ball rolling
with um Department of Commerce to kind

483
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,359
of get get this going. As you see on the
bottom of page two, it said workg

484
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:57,200
groupoup members should be prepared to
meet in person for several meetings at

485
00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:02,160
town hall about an hour and a half a
piece. participate in candid input and

486
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:07,440
information, participate in a 10 to 15
minute confidential online questionnaire

487
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:15,200
or phone video interview. So that will
hopefully help help them help us create

488
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:18,200
this plan for Bethl to to move forward.
can

489
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:31,359
I personally think it would be a good
idea and you know to have um

490
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:36,160
a couple of say teenagers or young
adults

491
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:40,000
um they're the future of
>> Bethl

492
00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:44,400
» and you know what is it that would what
would it take for them to want to stay

493
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:48,720
to bring their families back you know to
bring their families back to have their

494
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:51,520
families here. Um, just something to
think about.

495
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:55,359
» Any names you might suggest?
>> Uh,

496
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,520
I give me some time and I can probably
come up with a couple. Yeah.

497
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,160
» Okay.
>> So,

498
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:05,680
» would the would the board be willing to
maybe um, okay, this list and if there's

499
00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:09,839
other names you you may call in for us
to add those. I mean,

500
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,680
ultimately you would you'll adopt the
strategic plan. So, at the end of the

501
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:18,200
day, [clears throat and cough] it it's
the the board's plan for the town.

502
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:25,720
» Um, this is H1 in the agenda package on
the top.

503
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,480
H1

504
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:46,680
Andy, do you have an extra copy? Each
one.

505
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,240
Go ahead.

506
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:13,040
So you're saying uh to maybe approve
this this list as it is presented here

507
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:17,040
and then if it needs to be expanded.
>> Yeah, expand. We could then report back

508
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:22,040
to you on the next meeting if there's if
there were additional people that were

509
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,040
were added to it.

510
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:28,880
This is a very time limited group. Um
it's not like it's you know your

511
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,760
planning board that will go on year
after year after year.

512
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:42,079
» I'd make a motion in order to
approve the the list that's presented

513
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:46,480
here.
>> Okay. We have a motion uh to consider a

514
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:52,320
list of people to serve as a local work
group on the town's strategic economic

515
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:56,720
development plan. Mayor ask would that
also include any additional names the

516
00:40:54,240 --> 00:41:02,240
board may call in and suggest that
motion or or not?

517
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,440
» Uh yes sir. We could uh include that in
the motion.

518
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,640
» Okay.
>> Okay.

519
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,640
» Any additional people?

520
00:41:08,723 --> 00:41:14,400
[clears throat]
>> Okay. You heard the motion made by

521
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:18,800
Commissioner Jones. Do I have a second?
>> Second.

522
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:24,920
» Second by Mayor Promp Griggs.
All in favor, I raise your right hand.

523
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,920
» Mr. Mayor, I want to be on that group.

524
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:31,599
» Is there a problem with that?
>> Well, what it is, what we we're it's

525
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:36,480
[snorts] not a problem. What we're doing
is we are making a motion for the names

526
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:40,960
that's already here and then
>> uh later we add the names or consider

527
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:43,599
the people that's okay. They're being
brought forward.

528
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:46,319
» We're trying to make the motion for the
people the list that we have on the

529
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:53,359
list. Now,
>> that's what the motion

530
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:58,960
You were going to say something's gone.
>> No, [laughter]

531
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,280
I might last for words. I I I don't see
a problem with you being on the

532
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,480
committee. Um I don't know if
Commissioner Jones would want to amend

533
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:06,560
his motion to include you
>> or if we just deal with that afterwards

534
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,520
or
>> we can follow the lead. We can follow

535
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:14,880
the lead of the mayor.
>> Yeah, I think the the motion was to add

536
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:19,440
any additional ones. Right. The motion
is to approve the listing that we

537
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:23,520
already have selected and then at a
later time you can add the people. First

538
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:27,359
of all, you have to get the ones you
have to make the motion to approve the

539
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,119
ones that's already up here and then go
back.

540
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,720
» Right. So, this motion would allow you,
Commissioner Whitehurst, to call in and

541
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,000
recommend that Mr. Fred Whitehurst be
added.

542
00:42:33,359 --> 00:42:36,400
» Exactly.
>> This is my call, but let's go on with

543
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:42,960
this motion.
>> Thank you, sir. All right.

544
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,200
Okay. Uh [clears throat]
>> second.

545
00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:49,280
» The motion was second by Mayor Pro Tim
Griggs. All in favor by raising your

546
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:57,040
right hand.
>> Okay. Is there any opposed?

547
00:42:53,680 --> 00:43:02,079
Okay. No. Motion carry unanimous. Okay.
Mr. White, you make sure you call in.

548
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:06,240
» I called.
>> So, well, I we've already voted on it.

549
00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:07,200
So,
>> yes,

550
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:08,960
» that's good.
>> That's that's the end of the

551
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:13,680
conversation.
>> Yes, sir. Okay. But but [clears throat]

552
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:19,680
for the future because we we we get
presented just we get presented a list.

553
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:22,999
We I I guess somebody makes up the list.
>> Well well here here's what needs to

554
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:27,839
happen, right? Is just like
[clears throat] instant we call these

555
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:32,160
people and talk to them about being on
this on this list. And you know

556
00:43:30,859 --> 00:43:36,319
[clears throat] just because we get a
name, we need to make sure that's what

557
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:43,200
they want to do if they willing to serve
on on this planning board. And when when

558
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:48,160
they call in and at the same time to be
honest with you when we bring the names

559
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:53,599
be before the board we want to make sure
that you guys agree or this board agrees

560
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:57,880
that okay we are we are okay with the
names that's being presented to us

561
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:07,280
» because be honest with you we're living
in a time now that that people want to

562
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:13,240
be on things not so much to help but to
but to deter you from doing moving

563
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:13,240
forward with what you're trying to do.

564
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,839
[snorts]
>> You know, I'm just going to be honest

565
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:26,000
with you as as it is.
>> I have a question. Um, and the [snorts]

566
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:31,520
people, this I don't know if it's a
question or a suggestion, but the people

567
00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:35,839
that we appoint to these committees
should be people that attend town

568
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:40,960
meetings
that are interested in the town that

569
00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:45,440
just not know come in and got people in
the audience that are here all the time

570
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:48,440
and they never get a chance to uh
participate.

571
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:58,480
We have people that are here, faces that
we see are here all the time. And then

572
00:44:56,079 --> 00:45:02,960
it looks kind of funny and weird.
Somebody that never attends for year

573
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:07,800
after year.
That's just a comment.

574
00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:15,680
And and I I like to say this here, and
even though I don't have a vote on this,

575
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:20,640
I'm looking at the fact that we want
people to be on these boards that that

576
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:24,079
truly have an interest in the town of
Bethl

577
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:29,040
» and not just because, okay, the the
board is having a a selection of

578
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:32,880
somebody to be on the board, but we want
some people that's in the community

579
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:36,800
that's taking a look at the community
and and

580
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,800
don't mind putting some time into the
community.

581
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:42,079
» And when I say timing [clears throat]
into the community, I'm talking about

582
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,640
that goes through the community. And it
don't matter what side of the track you

583
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,440
I'm going to call it like it is,
>> right?

584
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:51,200
» That the fact of it is is that we want
people that's really looking out for

585
00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:54,400
both sides of the track.
>> Because we have been a divided

586
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:58,079
communities for too long. It's time to
come together. And when we want people

587
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:02,160
on these boards, considering that some
of these are uh go from one year to two

588
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,599
years to three years, that's a long time
to have a person up there that don't

589
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:09,280
really have an interest in Bethl, but
just sitting on on on the board. So, we

590
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:14,319
need people that really have an interest
in Bethl to see Bethl move forward and

591
00:46:11,839 --> 00:46:18,160
not become stalemate and and be
stagnant.

592
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,680
» And I'm going to leave that alone,
>> Mr. Mayor.

593
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:24,240
» Yes, sir.
>> If Jerome Brown's on that committee, I

594
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:28,422
want to be on that committee.
No sit.

595
00:46:26,401 --> 00:46:28,422
[laughter]

596
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:35,920
» Mr. Brown, [snorts] I'm gonna be joining
you.

597
00:46:34,262 --> 00:46:42,000
[laughter]
>> All right. Next, claim my attention.

598
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:46,960
» Okay. Next item is the 2026 CDBG NR
program documents. These are the

599
00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:54,640
required documents that the town is must
adopt in order to be eligible for um

600
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:58,079
applying for the the CDBG funds. These
10 documents are very similar to what we

601
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:01,040
went through a year ago or two years
ago, whatever it was, we we applied on

602
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:05,359
the first round.
>> So, it's recommended to approve the

603
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:09,359
documents as presented.
>> Okay. Have you heard the recommendation

604
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:16,480
of the manager? Do I have a motion to
approve the presented 2026 CDBG-

605
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,800
NR program application document?
>> Motion.

606
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:22,560
» Okay. Motion made by
>> everybody.

607
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:25,280
» Commissioner Lily. Do I have a second?
>> Second.

608
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:29,319
» Second by Commissioner Conger. All in
favor? I raise your right hand.

609
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,560
Any oppose?
Motion carry unanimous.

610
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,119
Okay, we're going to let the manager
continue to move forward.

611
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:46,400
» Okay, next item is a follow-up to the
planning board appointments. So, in your

612
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:50,640
last meeting on August 4th, you as a
board selected the um individuals that

613
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:56,000
you would like to serve on the planning
board. As a second step, the um code of

614
00:47:54,079 --> 00:48:01,760
ordinances, as you revised it in section
151, sets terms to those um planning

615
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:05,520
board members. And since you're starting
out, they would be staggered terms.

616
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:09,200
You'll have two individuals with a
one-year term, two years with a two-year

617
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:13,599
term, and three and three with a
three-year term. And then [snorts] once

618
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:19,200
these expire thereafter, they'll all be
three-year terms. So, I'm suggesting in

619
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:24,800
this abstract that in the the order in
which the names were selected, um you

620
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:30,240
had Jones, Blunt, Ibram, Cabara, Perry,
Adams, and Cox. Those seven names that

621
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:35,200
you just go, as you can see out
outlined, year one, Jones, year one,

622
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:38,640
Year one with Blunt, two years for
Ibram, two years for Cabrera, three

623
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:42,400
years with Perry, three years for Adams,
and three years for Cox. Remember the

624
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:46,559
Kevin Adams [clears throat] and Otis Cox
are the ETJ members. We've sent a

625
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:51,359
request to the county. They will be
considering these at their meeting on

626
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:57,800
September 14th, but um you can set the
the term subject to the county

627
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,800
commissioners appointing them.

628
00:48:58,079 --> 00:49:03,359
» Pardon me.
>> Read them again. The full list of names

629
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:06,880
or just the county commissioner ones?
>> Full list.

630
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:12,119
» County commissioner names. Okay. Kevin
Adams. Um and Otis Cox.

631
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:25,119
» Okay. Um you heard the the
recommendation from the manager. At this

632
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:32,880
time need a motion to set and approve
the terms in order in which each member

633
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:36,079
was selected as submitted in the aster.
>> Do we have a motion?

634
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:39,920
» I'll make if I make I'll make that
motion, sir.

635
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,119
» Motion made by Jones. Do I have a
second?

636
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,280
» Second.
>> Second by Commissioner

637
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:49,720
Lily.
All in favor by raising right hand.

638
00:49:49,839 --> 00:49:57,480
All right. Any opposed?
Motion carried unanimously.

639
00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:06,160
» Next, we'll move into item I of new
business and we'll let the manager

640
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:09,599
continue to lead off on that.
>> So, your first item under new business

641
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:14,240
is budget finance matters. You have a
series of budget amendments and I'll

642
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:18,720
read these off quickly. Um the fourth
budget amendment of the year is to

643
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:23,920
basically reappropriate the mural
project revenues from fiscal year 2526

644
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:30,640
that were unspent. Those will be going
into this year's budget fiscal year um

645
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:35,280
2627. That was a total of $21,000.
Budget number five creates the

646
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:38,640
professional services line item. At your
last board meeting, you selected Rivers

647
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:44,480
Associates to be the town's professional
engineer, setting aside $10,000 for

648
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:48,720
their needed services on an asne basis.
This takes $10,000 out of um fund

649
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:54,640
balance for these [clears throat]
services. Budget number six um

650
00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:59,280
reappropriates unspent funds again from
the last fiscal year into the new fiscal

651
00:50:56,559 --> 00:51:03,760
year. These were the remaining funds for
the stormwater utility rate study that

652
00:51:01,359 --> 00:51:09,920
Rivers Associates is working on. of the
40,000 was 5,121 that was still unspent

653
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:15,040
that they'll be billing us for. Budget
amendment number seven

654
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:21,200
establishes a budget account to account
for the revenues and expenses of our

655
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:26,640
first CDBG NR grant at $950,000.
Budget number eight um removes the

656
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:32,960
firetruck loan proceeds and appropriates
fund balance of $125,000 for the for the

657
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:37,520
firetruck purchase. Um, as you see noted
here, it says instead of internal loan

658
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:42,640
um, within the town, the town's auditor,
Greg Redmond, has suggested that the

659
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:48,000
town annually move back the two budget
appropriations within the fire

660
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:53,680
department, the 10,400 and 11,243.
Both of those were associated with um

661
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:57,440
increase in the rural fire tax to to the
the town's fund balance to repay this

662
00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:01,280
loan. There was really in talking to the
auditor, there was really no way to to

663
00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:05,280
set up a loan with an interest interest
rate. He just suggested at the end of

664
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:10,720
each year moving that back amount until
we pay ourselves back $125,000.

665
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:15,040
So in effect, that's what that budget
amendment would do. Um budget number

666
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:21,280
nine
um moves $10,000 from contracted

667
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:26,720
services from law enforcement um to the
skiff project. We had a couple um change

668
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:31,040
orders on the back room renovation for
law enforcement as well as town staff

669
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:36,000
that we needed um some additional money
on. There were funds within the law

670
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:39,599
enforcement budget that I had basically
over budgeted anticipating a higher

671
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:44,640
increase being requested from the
sheriff's office for the contract

672
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:49,680
renewal. Um these expenses that we are
trying to cover on change orders is we

673
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:54,000
had had to tap a sewer line into
Railroad Street to service that that

674
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:57,599
room for water and sewer. We had
exterior window wrapping on all the

675
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:01,920
windows on the exterior of the building.
Um the sidewalk out front had to be tore

676
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:06,480
up to do the sewer line and we had a
town hall door replacement. So again,

677
00:53:03,839 --> 00:53:12,240
that moves $10,000 out of that that line
item into um the skiff line item. skiff

678
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:17,359
is the overall budget code that we paid
for the project out of. With that, those

679
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:22,000
are the the budget amendments.
>> Okay. Before I ask for a motion, I want

680
00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:27,680
to ask the town attorney being that we
have six budget of adjustment that's

681
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:30,559
needed and I need a motion. Can I just
make a motion for all six to be

682
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,800
approved?
>> Um the managers just read off all

683
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:39,760
» the the town manager I think did a
really good job explaining it. it if if

684
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:43,280
it would uh ultimately be up to to the
board, but if the board consents, I

685
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:47,280
think it would be appropriate to have
one motion. Just make sure the motion

686
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,559
identifies the budget in the budget
number so it's clear. One vote for all

687
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:54,240
all budget amendments.
>> Okay.

688
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,400
» Such as budget amendments four through
through nine.

689
00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:01,520
» There you go. That that's that. Just
make sure it's in the motion. Yes, sir.

690
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:07,920
So, at this time, do I have a motion
uh for budget amend to approve budget

691
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:14,319
amendment number four through nine?
>> I make a motion that we

692
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:18,000
adopt the budget amendments from four to
nine.

693
00:54:16,319 --> 00:54:21,520
And I make a motion that we go ahead and
do it.

694
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:24,160
» Okay. Motion made by Commissioner Lily.
Do I have a second?

695
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:30,640
» Second.
>> Are there any any questions?

696
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:35,520
If no question. Okay. The motion with
the second by Commissioner Conger. Is

697
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:38,312
there any question for the manager?
There's no question for the manager. Do

698
00:54:37,657 --> 00:54:43,440
[snorts]
[clears throat] all those in favor by

699
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:47,599
raising your right hand.
Okay.

700
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:54,640
Any oppose?
Motion carry unanimous. Thank you.

701
00:54:52,240 --> 00:55:00,160
Next to claim our attention will be the
resolution honoring Dorothy Le Dorothy

702
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:04,240
Leathers Harold.
So this is an item I think the entire

703
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:09,920
board was um emailed on this requesting
that the town develop some type of

704
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:15,839
letter rec resolution proclamation.
We've done a resolution, gathered this

705
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:21,680
information from the family um um from
the details they provided us and dumped

706
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:26,960
it into a little tool called AI and um
spit out a a proclam a resolution that

707
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:30,000
we then further um edited and created
this for your consideration. I'd be

708
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:36,280
happy to read it if you like or you can
just adopt it.

709
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:36,280
» Wish you as a board

710
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,880
adopted.
Okay.

711
00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:51,520
» Okay. At this time, do I have a motion
to adopt the resolution honoring Dorothy

712
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:54,000
Leather's Harold on the occasion of her
100th birthday?

713
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,760
» So moved.
>> Motion made by Mayor Pro Tim Griggs. Do

714
00:55:56,240 --> 00:56:01,040
I have a second?
>> Second.

715
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:06,480
» Second by Commissioner Conger. Is there
any discussion?

716
00:56:02,799 --> 00:56:12,160
All in favor by raising your right hand.
Any opposed? Motion carry unanimous.

717
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:17,040
Thank you. Next to claim our attention
will be the departmental reports and

718
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,359
we're going to let the the manager
continue to take the lead.

719
00:56:19,183 --> 00:56:22,640
[clears throat]
>> Okay. So your first report is your

720
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:26,240
monthly town's public safety report from
P County Sheriff's Office who provides

721
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:32,240
law enforcement on behalf of the town of
Bethl. You can see in the last column of

722
00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:37,440
this report for July of 2026, the last
month reported. Um, in terms of violent

723
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:41,760
crimes, no murders, no sexual assault,
no robbery. You did have one regular

724
00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:46,880
assault. Under property crime, one
burglary, no larenies, no autotheft, and

725
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:52,000
one arson.
On the next page, you can see calls of

726
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:56,519
calls for service day of the week. Um,
this month looks like Tuesday was

727
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:59,760
probably the the oddly enough one
[clears throat and cough] is days

728
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:05,839
compared to a weekend.
And those I'll have on that report. On

729
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:13,440
the next item, item B is your financials
for um July 31st through July 31st. This

730
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:18,400
is the first month of the fiscal year,
first month of 12. And this would be for

731
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:22,480
the first 31 days of the month. You can
see that our revenues, we've collected a

732
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:26,960
whopping 2% of our revenues, but
obviously we're just beginning the year

733
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:30,319
um per se. on expenditures. The overall
expenditure we've spent about 10% of the

734
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,559
budget.
>> On your cash balance report, you can see

735
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:39,960
the overall
um total cash balance is 2,827,740.36.

736
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:46,720
That includes, you know, both your
Southern Bank checking account, your

737
00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:52,559
North Carolina Capital Management Trust
Fund, um as well as the the other funds

738
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:57,280
that we have monies in such as the this
the skiff. We are anticipating uh

739
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:02,559
$197,000
coming to us from the state to reimburse

740
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:07,200
us for our RTG, that's the rural
transformation grant expenditures. We

741
00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:11,760
had to spend those funds first. The I
believe all of those funds were spent

742
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:15,440
spent on this on Smith Street Park. So
when those funds come in, we'll be able

743
00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:20,960
to add those to this total cash balance
and get us back up over three million.

744
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:24,280
» And with that, we could have a motion to
adopt that.

745
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,359
Do I have a motion to approve the
financial report?

746
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:33,680
» So move.
>> Okay. Motion made by Commissioner Lily.

747
00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:36,400
Do I have a second?
>> Second.

748
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:41,975
» Second by Mayor Pro Tim Griggs. All in
favor by raise your right hand. [snorts]

749
00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:45,920
Any oppose? Motion. Unanimous.
[clears throat]

750
00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:51,760
» Okay. Your next board meeting date is
Tuesday, October 6th. Um, one other item

751
00:58:49,839 --> 00:58:56,720
to mention. I've been asked to announce
that the um right now the tenative date

752
00:58:54,880 --> 00:59:03,040
of the town's Christmas parade will be
1212 26 December 12th and I've been

753
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:06,960
asked to um put a call out for parade
volunteers. If anybody be willing to

754
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:12,400
assist with the parade if you would
contact town hall and talk to our clerk

755
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:17,040
or deputy clerk. We would um appreciate
any help we could get. The the town does

756
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:22,720
coordinate this event on behalf of the
the the residents in the town. So we we

757
00:59:19,839 --> 00:59:25,359
need your help if if possible.
>> And [clears throat] Mr. Mayor, that's

758
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:30,160
all I have.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Next up to

759
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:34,400
uh for our departmental report, we're
going to ask our commissioner Lily to

760
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:40,799
put on his fire chief hat and talk to us
about the fire department.

761
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:44,319
» All right. Let me start off with um
saying I like to thank the sheriff

762
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,760
department because we've had some calls
here lately with trees down and

763
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:52,799
everything else and they've came out and
helped us direct traffic or whatever we

764
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:57,839
need to do. So, make sure you send it
back. We thank them for that. I haven't

765
00:59:55,119 --> 01:00:02,559
got a fire department report for actual
cause. Uh it's my fault. I was trying I

766
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:08,559
was doing so much other stuff I didn't
get it. But just to let you know, 21106

767
01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:14,160
is still got air problems. Uh hadn't got
the guy to come fix it uh at this time.

768
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:18,240
Uh so we're having to pump it up with
the air hose that we have at the station

769
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:24,319
before the truck can even leave the
building. Uh it's been worked on twice

770
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:28,319
already. Um and it has not been fixed
and I've got somebody else getting ready

771
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:33,599
to work on it. So hopefully they're
fixed. Also, [clears throat]

772
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:38,400
I brought it to um the town manager that
the air conditioner in the office area

773
01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:43,599
and the bathrooms has quit. It's totally
gone. Um we're trying to keep it cool

774
01:00:41,359 --> 01:00:48,799
enough with the new mini split we put in
the meeting room. It's doing a good job,

775
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:53,200
but in order to keep it cool enough, we
can't do anything with the restrooms. Um

776
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:56,640
so, if you happen to go to the fire
department, try to use the restroom,

777
01:00:54,480 --> 01:01:00,160
it's going to be hot. Uh we're sorry
about that. So hopefully we'll be able

778
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:05,599
to take care of that in in the upcoming
future. Um the daytime guys are doing a

779
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,720
great job. They're keeping their station
clean. They're keeping their trucks

780
01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:15,119
clean. Everything's up to par.
Everything is uh been checked and ready

781
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:22,559
to go. Also to remind you that we do
have our ISO coming up June. Um and that

782
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:26,720
is going to be a big uh uh big meeting.
Uh I was told that the gentleman is

783
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:31,920
going to retire and they're doing a
trainee. Uh he will be here in June and

784
01:01:29,839 --> 01:01:35,839
they're going to be checking us for top
to bottom. They haven't done that the

785
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:40,079
last two times because it's always been
the same guy doing it. So he pretty much

786
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:45,040
knows us. He pretty much knows the
station what we got which with this year

787
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:53,520
we will have some much needed equipment.
Hopefully uh uh we fly out the 22nd of

788
01:01:49,839 --> 01:01:57,599
September to go to is it
>> Okala?

789
01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:02,880
» Yeah. Florida. Uh there will be four of
us going out. Uh the mayor, I mean the

790
01:01:59,839 --> 01:02:06,160
town manager would be flying with us.
And what that does, we go down and do

791
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:10,640
the final inspections on the fire truck.
If we see any scratches, any blooms on

792
01:02:08,319 --> 01:02:14,880
it, if they hadn't got something put in
the right spot, then we'll write it up.

793
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:20,240
They'll change it before it ever comes
to us. Once it gets to Rocky Mount, um

794
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:24,720
then we'll get the equipment off the old
truck. We'll take it over. Then they'll

795
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:30,400
put it on for us. Um and then hopefully
by later part of October, middle part of

796
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:35,040
October later, then it will be here at
our station and then we'll take

797
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:40,319
ownership of it at that time. Um so
everything's looking good. Um again, um

798
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:43,599
we do have some issues going on right
now at the station, but other than that,

799
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:48,400
everything's
best we can.

800
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:54,319
» Any question from the board for
Chief Lily?

801
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:59,040
» Oh, one more thing. September the 19th
is our annual barbecue. We will be

802
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:02,880
selling barbecue chicken, um uh
potatoes, string beans, rolls, and

803
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:08,839
stuff. So
>> the date again

804
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,839
» se September the 19th se

805
01:03:10,528 --> 01:03:13,520
[clears throat]
>> time

806
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:17,440
» and we fly out that following Monday.
>> What time?

807
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:20,720
» Uh from 11 to 2 or 11 until we sell it
all. Hopefully we'll be able to sell 600

808
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:23,680
plates.
>> Uh we [clears throat] are selling

809
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:27,200
tickets. So if you want to pre-by you
can just get up with one of the people

810
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:32,079
in the fire department. we'll sell you
tickets or either uh you know we'll you

811
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,440
come to the station that day and pick
them up.

812
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:39,200
» How much are tickets?
>> Uh $12. [snorts]

813
01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:44,240
» I think that's what it was. Yeah, $12.
So, but uh other than that,

814
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:47,760
» that's a whole or half chicken?
>> That's a whole half chicken.

815
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:52,440
» Okay.
>> A whole half.

816
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,440
» A whole half.

817
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:58,160
» All right. Next to claim my attention,
we're going to ask at this time our town

818
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,680
attorney.
>> Can we do public works?

819
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:08,319
» Okay, we do public public works.
>> So, we have a public works report. Um,

820
01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:14,079
like to show you a quick video regarding
a a project we've been working on seems

821
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:18,079
like for forever.
This deals with Smith Street Park. As

822
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:24,559
you've may have seen, been out there,
the the walking trail was leveled,

823
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:28,400
graveled, compacted, then we've been
waiting and waiting and waiting for the

824
01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:33,440
asphalt.
>> And as of today,

825
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:38,640
» will that play, Lind, or is that just a
picture?

826
01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:44,400
» The [clears throat] asphalt. Okay, maybe
it's just a picture, but the asphalt

827
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:50,000
truck machinery crew is out there and
it'll probably take several days to do

828
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:53,799
that entire loop out there.
>> Maybe there's several pictures,

829
01:04:54,559 --> 01:05:02,000
but they're doing a great job. They did
a great job preparing the the path with

830
01:04:58,799 --> 01:05:07,119
the um the rock and having it compacted
and making sure that it is level.

831
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:11,440
And now we're going back with the the
asphalt. Once the asphalt is put down,

832
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:16,079
they will smooth the dirt along the
edges of the path, clean it up and seat

833
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:20,079
it. And um that phase of the work will
be done. We'll then we will then be

834
01:05:18,319 --> 01:05:24,799
installing all of the remaining
equipment that we have in storage,

835
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:29,359
whether picnic tables, trash cans,
exercise equipment, just the the

836
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:34,400
remainder of the um the improvements
that we've been long awaiting to to get

837
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:38,559
in the ground out there.
>> How Eight

838
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:41,559
8T.
>> Yes.

839
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,720
» Correct.

840
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,839
» Miss Hall, that walker trail is waiting
for you.

841
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,359
Thank you.

842
01:06:05,415 --> 01:06:07,435
[clears throat]

843
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:13,985
» All right. Next, we'll hear from our
town attorney. [clears throat]

844
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:22,000
Uh, thank you, [clears throat] mayor.
Um, I thought what I would do tonight

845
01:06:19,359 --> 01:06:26,079
would be make a report that would
supplement

846
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:31,079
the email I think that was in your your
packet. If I could, I'll start with

847
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:31,079
this.

848
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:38,359
Lawyers like our general statute. This
is

849
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,920
make me.

850
01:06:53,359 --> 01:06:56,920
» So, um

851
01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:05,599
in um in North Carolina,
like in most most states,

852
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:11,760
a municipality only has the authority
given to it by statutes approved by the

853
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:16,079
general assembly. So, you know, we can
only and there are a couple minor

854
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:23,039
exceptions. So we lawyers say there's
always an exception, but basically what

855
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:28,480
a town can do uh is um the it can use
the authority given it uh by statute

856
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:33,039
passed by the general assembly. So for
example uh and this one actually works

857
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:36,880
perfect on many different levels. What
I've given to to you tonight is 16 160

858
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:40,240
16A
>> Keen can for the for the benefit of the

859
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:44,640
audience, can we let them know we're
talking about the the former Gator issue

860
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:48,640
which is also known as a modified
utility vehicle.

861
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:52,720
» Thank you. That that's correct. Um, my
report tonight is that I mentioned to

862
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:58,079
add to that email and that email that I
sent to you dealt with the um, what I'm

863
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:03,599
going to call the gator issue or the
modified uh, utility vehicle some people

864
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:06,720
call side by side. Um, and I'm going to
get a little more into the history of

865
01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:11,119
it, but but thank you. That that's what
that's what I'm what I'm discussing. And

866
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:18,400
this particular statute that I've given
to you tonight um 168 300.6 Six uh it

867
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:24,719
says regulation of golf carts on
streets. So uh by way of an example you

868
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:30,640
can see the general assembly assembly
said that a city may by ordinance

869
01:08:28,239 --> 01:08:35,600
regulate the operation of golf carts on
any public street or road where the

870
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:41,040
speed is 35 miles per hour or less. And
under B, a an ordinance. By ordinance, a

871
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:46,400
city may require the registration of
golf carts, charge a fee, specify who is

872
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:51,839
authorized to operate, da da da. The
point is the the general assembly said,

873
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:56,319
you know, when it comes to golf carts,
we up here in Raleigh aren't going to

874
01:08:53,839 --> 01:09:00,719
pass a law that makes you have it or or
or says you can't have it. We're going

875
01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:05,279
to let the we're going to let the towns
decide if you want to have golf carts.

876
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:11,679
And if you do, you need to adopt an
ordinance regulating how you um allow

877
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:17,279
golf carts and what procedure a property
owner, a golf cart owner has so they can

878
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:25,279
operate on your streets. So that's what
the the the statute does. And um that

879
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:30,239
that statute was passed in 2009 and in
2010 uh the town of Bethl adopted his

880
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:35,120
golf car ordinance which is in chapter
75. So, one year later, we just like a

881
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:38,400
lot of towns did, we adopted a golf cart
ordinance that says if you want to put a

882
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:44,799
golf cart on street that here's the
things you've got to do. Um, so again,

883
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:49,040
it sort of shows you uh General Cy says
we're going to allow the towns to do it,

884
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:58,000
but you have to adopt an ordinance. Now,
as it relates to um um the current issue

885
01:09:54,080 --> 01:10:04,400
of side by sides or gators, um in the in
the email I sent you in September of

886
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:11,920
2020, this issue came up before um I was
a I was asked by the town to research

887
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:17,679
the issue. Um and uh I found when I did
my work in September of 2020 that in

888
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:23,520
June of 2020, the general assembly
enacted a session law which ultimately

889
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:30,320
became became a law whereby three
general statutes were amended to allow

890
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:35,719
ultimately the use of modified
um utility vehicles. And I've got

891
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:47,123
This is a copy of the session law. If I
could pass this out.

892
01:10:45,103 --> 01:10:47,123
[cough and clears throat]

893
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:15,679
I think [clears throat and cough]
and and you can see by this

894
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:20,159
this was a session law. Um and if I I
think it was yeah if you look to the

895
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:25,920
second page you see it was a approved in
June of 2020. And this session law

896
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:30,960
modified three general statutes
20-4.0127

897
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:36,560
0127 which is the definition of section
of of um chapter 20 and you can see it

898
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:42,640
added in a definition for a modified
utility vehicle and um se you see under

899
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:47,040
section two another general statute
20-8712

900
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:51,679
was also modified to allow you can see
it says many trucks and modified utility

901
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:58,320
vehicles this relates to fees that the
could be charged

902
01:11:53,679 --> 01:12:04,960
and under the last one 20-1 121.1
operation of low-speed vehicles, mini

903
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:08,880
trucks or modified utility vehicles. And
I I just give you this to show you that

904
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:12,239
this is when the general assembly said,
you know, we probably need to do

905
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:19,600
something about this idea of sideby-side
gators. And so in 2020, they they took

906
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:24,320
the the action needed to um allow those
vehicles to be used on public streets.

907
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:28,040
And if you'll allow me the very last
handout, I promise.

908
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:54,600
Yes, sir.

909
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:06,000
what I have now given you this is the
act this is the actual statute of 20-

910
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:10,080
121.1
is actually on the other sheet but it's

911
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:14,800
got lines and oh it's hard to read so
this is the more clear easier to read

912
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:18,719
version and and this is where I mean
I'll just read over some parts of it

913
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:23,840
says operation of low-speed vehicle mini
truck or modified utility vehicle on

914
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:27,920
certain roadways the operation of low
speed vehicles, mini trucks or modified

915
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:32,000
utility vehicles is authorized with the
following restrictions. Number one, if

916
01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:36,320
you read the second sentence, it says
the mini truck or modified utility

917
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:42,000
vehicle may be operated only on streets
or highways where the posted speed limit

918
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:46,640
is 55 miles per hour or less. So, you
can't put a gator out on the interstate

919
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:52,000
at 70 m hour. It's got to be 55 miles
per hour or [clears throat] less. If you

920
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:57,679
go to 2A, it says the modified utility
vehicles shall be equipped with shall be

921
01:13:55,280 --> 01:14:01,840
equipped with and you can see this is
that's a safety equipment. So in order

922
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:05,600
to put um I'm going just call it the
Gator that we all think we all know what

923
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:09,840
type of vehicle I'm referring to side by
side. In order to put that type of

924
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:13,040
vehicle on a town street, it must have
that following safety equipment. And it

925
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:16,880
makes perfect sense why the general
assembly says we don't want to put

926
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:19,679
something out there that's driving at 55
miles per hour or less if it doesn't

927
01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:24,800
have certain safety equipment. So you
you must have the equipment listed

928
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:30,400
there. Number three, a low-speed
vehicle, mini truck, or modified utility

929
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:35,440
vehicle shall be registered and insured
in accordance with and and that that is

930
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:41,840
the requirement where if you want to
operate a gator on uh public streets, it

931
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:48,080
must be registered with DMV and it must
have uh motor vehicle insurance.

932
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:55,199
Once you meet these requirements, uh, as
set up by statute, um, you're able to

933
01:14:52,159 --> 01:15:00,880
operate a gator on any public street in
town, out of town, just has to be 55 on

934
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:04,640
a road posted 55 miles per hour or less.
Um

935
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:08,800
the the general assembly for whatever
reason I I can guess we could probably

936
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:14,080
all guess decided that when it comes to
a vehicle that has a larger engine can

937
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:19,920
go faster that they decided that they
weren't going to leave this to the town

938
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:24,320
to to adopt its own ordinance to control
that that vehicle on its streets. They

939
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:29,199
said, "We, the state, are going to
control the operation of a of a gator on

940
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:34,320
a public street." And as long as you're
registered with DMV and you you you

941
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:38,080
know, you you've gone through what you
need to through go through to get

942
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:43,600
registered and you have uh insurance on
the vehicle, you can operate on any

943
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:48,480
public road. Um,
I hope that helps. I I may have missed

944
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:54,800
my mark, but but I think I'm just trying
to sort of accentuate that golf carts,

945
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:57,760
drive slow, don't go so fast. General
Sim said, "We're going to let the towns

946
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:01,520
decide whether they want golf carts
driving around with you may have

947
01:16:00,162 --> 01:16:04,960
[clears throat] one golf cart or 300
golf carts riding around town. The town

948
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:10,239
can control that." But but a but a
vehicle that has this more powerful and

949
01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:13,280
and faster DMV, I mean, the the the the
general assembly said, "No, no, no.

950
01:16:11,679 --> 01:16:19,440
We're going to control that. keep that
with us at the state level. Um, be glad

951
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:22,320
to answer any questions you may have of
me.

952
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:27,199
» Question for the board.
>> I got one. Uh, and I've already asked

953
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:31,760
this one time and we talked about it,
but you know,

954
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:34,000
last time this was brought up in what
was it? 22

955
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:41,199
» 2020
>> 20. Um, the sub the owner of one of them

956
01:16:38,480 --> 01:16:46,159
went to DMV and it was classified by
CC's. Yeah.

957
01:16:42,719 --> 01:16:52,320
» And he said if it's 2400 and over, I
think they would do it 2400 and under,

958
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:56,239
they couldn't do it. So, and the ones
that we're actually pertaining to is

959
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:59,679
2400 cc's and under
>> under.

960
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:06,800
» So, I mean, you know, so they're not as
fast as they're not as big as the 2400

961
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:10,400
cc's and over. So, how does how
>> if you look at that session law I passed

962
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:15,120
out to you
>> when when this came up in 2020 and I was

963
01:17:12,719 --> 01:17:18,480
reading this um I think it was Tom Asbel
reached out to me says keen this has

964
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:22,719
come up do some research on it
>> and I was reading over when I found out

965
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:25,679
that here I was in September and the
general assembly had picked this up in

966
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:30,800
June just a couple months before I
thought that was rather timely but under

967
01:17:28,239 --> 01:17:34,640
the definition section under section one
if you notice right in the middle it

968
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:36,080
says an engine displacement greater than
2400.

969
01:17:35,679 --> 01:17:40,480
» Mhm.
>> So, when I read that, I mean, I I know a

970
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:44,960
little bit about engines, I thought,
well, that's a dag on big engine. If

971
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:48,560
it's got to be greater than 2400cc, I
that makes sense. In fact, I circled it

972
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:55,679
and put a big question mark around it.
But if you look, when they actually

973
01:17:50,159 --> 01:18:01,600
passed the law, this this um well um I I
I did not bring that with me. I do have

974
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:06,239
it in my my folder. Be glad to show you.
when they approve this actual definition

975
01:18:04,719 --> 01:18:12,640
that's in the current version of the
law, they took that 2400 out. There's no

976
01:18:09,679 --> 01:18:15,840
requirement. So, um I think they
realized the mistake they made that that

977
01:18:14,239 --> 01:18:19,600
that was for some reason they were
requiring a very large engine which made

978
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:25,040
no sense because most Gators I don't
think have the engine that size. So,

979
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:29,120
that 2400 requirement is no longer
there. It's not in the definition

980
01:18:26,719 --> 01:18:35,040
section. They they took they meaning the
general assembly took that out. So I I

981
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:39,120
mean um
my I I don't have a Gator. I think if I

982
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:42,719
went down tomorrow to the John Deere
place to buy one and said, "Hey, I want

983
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,520
to buy a Gator." They would probably
say, "Yeah, you go put it on the

984
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:48,239
street." And I would say, "Yeah." They
would set it up just like if I was

985
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:53,600
buying a new car that it would be
registered with DMV and everything would

986
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:59,679
be good to go and and and and would be
handled. If you have a a a gator today

987
01:18:56,719 --> 01:19:06,000
that you bought years ago, um I I spoke
um with uh Are you Mr. um Okay, Mr.

988
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:10,239
Harris? He and I spoke on the phone.
Hadn't met before, but I told him I

989
01:19:08,159 --> 01:19:15,360
thought that probably the thing to do
would be to to to contact the John Deere

990
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:19,199
dealership that he bought his vehicle
from and say, "Listen, I bought it a few

991
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:23,040
years ago, but I want to put it on the
street. what do I need to do to make

992
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:26,560
sure this thing will be registered with
DMV and find out what they say this

993
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:30,000
these are the things you need to do or
add to I think he's done most of them I

994
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:35,120
know he added on some additional
equipment that didn't come initially

995
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:39,040
with it but as long as you can get as it
says in the statute as long as you can

996
01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:42,320
get your vehicle registered
should be no issues and henceforth you

997
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:46,640
know you don't have to deal with the
town or the county or anybody it's just

998
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:50,800
DMV did I answer your question yes sir
okay

999
01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:56,199
Um, would you like to say anything Earl
or come to the If you do come up here?

1000
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:05,120
As far as I know at this time, we've
only received um three people that's

1001
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:11,199
actually got them that wants to ride
them. Um, one of them is Mr. Charles or

1002
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:16,880
Harris. Um, and he does a lot with his
more or less farming and stuff. And I've

1003
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:19,760
got two more that depending on what goes
on tonight, you know, whether or not

1004
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:25,600
they come back and try to get it
inspected. Um, one of them said that his

1005
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:28,560
is the bigger one. Um, and DMV said that
they would uh register that one.

1006
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:32,080
» Okay.
>> So, I hadn't heard on the other one yet.

1007
01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:37,120
I put a call out to him. So, at this
time, you know, I I don't know what

1008
01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:42,480
they're going to do, but I do know that,
you know, um,

1009
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:46,080
» he was the one I was talking about.
yesterday.

1010
01:20:44,435 --> 01:20:49,679
[snorts]
>> State your name and address.

1011
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:56,320
» My name is Charles. Harris Jr. I live at
3761 Ceil Street. Been here for about

1012
01:20:52,560 --> 01:21:00,880
five years. Uh getting back to you,
mine's a little bit older.

1013
01:20:58,719 --> 01:21:05,440
Uh they don't give me the numbers no
more for them. That's the only thing to

1014
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:10,239
get it registered at DMV. I done gone
through John Deere. Uh

1015
01:21:08,239 --> 01:21:17,440
» with numbers, you know what a VIN? No,
it's a it's they call it a certificate

1016
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:21,600
number and mine don't have it. Uh I got
I got the bill of sale and the

1017
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:27,600
restoration where I bought it like a
title. But mine my machine so old now

1018
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,760
the new ones is coming out where you
like you said if you go to today and buy

1019
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,120
one.
>> Yeah.

1020
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,360
» Yeah. They got it.
>> Yeah.

1021
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:37,360
» So that's where I'm in a that's where
I'm in a catch 22.

1022
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:41,040
» Did you Did you talk with your uh
dealer? I talked to him right after I

1023
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:45,199
got off the phone with you. Yes, sir. I
sit right there and called him and

1024
01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:48,880
talked to him and and he called me back
the next day and he said, "Ain't no way

1025
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:52,560
I can get you a number because they got
to have that number to go to DMV with

1026
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:58,560
it."
But that's where I'm at catch 22.

1027
01:21:56,480 --> 01:22:05,120
Well, I I'll be the first to admit I've
never dealt with this. I mean I mean on

1028
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:09,040
a on a on a you know here's a level
where somebody's actually trying to deal

1029
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:15,360
with it in town. Um I I would say as an
attorney that um I if if you meet the

1030
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:19,120
requirements in here it it should be
able to be it to me it doesn't make any

1031
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,520
difference whether the vehicle the gator
is one year old or 10 years old or 15

1032
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:25,360
years old.
>> I went back to John Deere with the thing

1033
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:31,360
I [snorts]
with the with the equipment I got on it.

1034
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:35,120
I spent the machine cost me $15,000
right to start with. Spent another

1035
01:22:33,167 --> 01:22:39,440
[snorts] $1,000 to put the safety
equipment on. It come with the seat

1036
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:45,360
belts and everything, but I didn't go
and add brake lights and stuff myself. I

1037
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:49,840
carried it back to the deal and spent
another $1,000 on it that had the brake

1038
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:54,639
lights and all that. So, if I ever
decide wanted to sell it, Yeah. get rid

1039
01:22:52,159 --> 01:22:58,320
of it. It ain't uh it ain't nothing that
I put on myself. just put backward to

1040
01:22:56,719 --> 01:23:02,000
deal
>> at at the time when he bought it. I I

1041
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:05,040
don't know exactly when you bought it,
but he said it was a few years ago. You

1042
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:08,560
couldn't legally ride them on the
street. So, it was it was not even an

1043
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:13,199
issue at that time. You know, that the
the dealers weren't thinking about what

1044
01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:19,760
do we need to do? So, the question is,
how do we get a vehicle that was sold

1045
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:26,000
pre um approval of use on public street
to get where DMV will register it? I

1046
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:30,560
mean, I I'm a I'm a I'm an optimistic
person by nature. There's got to be a

1047
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:36,800
way to get it to get DMV to register.
>> If you ain't got that number, you can't

1048
01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:39,520
you I've done talked to them. I've
talked to the dealer. I cannot get that

1049
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:43,520
number.
>> Did Did Have you talked to DMV?

1050
01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:47,199
» Yes. You got to have that number with
the You got to have the certificate

1051
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:51,120
number. When you when you buy the
machines, the new ones you buy today,

1052
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:56,480
they they prevent they provide you with
them numbers. Back when I would come,

1053
01:23:53,360 --> 01:24:01,199
can't get it. He's already called the
people at John Deere to see if they can

1054
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:04,560
get it. Can't get it cuz my machine's a
little bit older than what the new ones

1055
01:24:02,719 --> 01:24:10,639
are today
when it when I bought it. Well, I I'd be

1056
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:14,880
more than happy to talk to Mr. Harris
and see if if if there's anything I

1057
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:22,719
could do to help him. I mean, I on my
dime, not on your dime, but the I mean,

1058
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:27,040
uh, this is the put on my lawyer hat,
the the statute is clear. In order to to

1059
01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:31,120
get out on the street, you got to be
registered. And, um, I'm I'm I'm sure

1060
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:34,960
they're thinking about today moving
forward, that's not a problem. General

1061
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:39,120
Assembly wasn't thinking 10 years ago or
15 years ago. But but I'd be glad to

1062
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:43,199
talk with them to see what we can
possibly do because again, it makes no

1063
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:47,360
sense to me. If you've got everything
that the statute requires, which is on

1064
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:51,520
this page right here, you you should be
able to get it registered and and right

1065
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:58,080
on the street. I don't care whether it's
one year old or 15 years old. Um but

1066
01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:02,080
anyway, I I'll be glad to answer any
questions that you have of me.

1067
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:05,080
» Any other question for our town
attorney?

1068
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:12,360
Okay, if there's no question, thank you
so much.

1069
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:19,520
Okay, at this time, uh, Commissioner
Kong, you have anything?

1070
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:22,560
» No, just thank you for everyone for
coming out.

1071
01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:29,120
» Commissioner Lennon,
>> u Thanks for everyone coming out and

1072
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:34,719
everything you do for the community.
Please don't forget September the 19th,

1073
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:38,159
11 to 2 at the fire department. Um, also
I've said it at the last meeting and

1074
01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:45,199
I'll say it at this one before we close
out. Next year in December is Bethl Fire

1075
01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:50,159
Department's 100y year anniversary.
They've been here 100 years 100 years,

1076
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:53,600
excuse me. Uh, we are in process of
getting some stuff up. We're going to

1077
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:59,840
get some shirts made. Uh, we're going to
get some challenge coins made um and

1078
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:04,480
sell and and and all and uh to try to
help us pay for everything we're going

1079
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:08,639
to do. But uh we will have hot dogs,
hamburgers, basically like a open house

1080
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:12,400
at the fire department at the time.
Might be a little bit cool, but anyway,

1081
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:16,719
you never know what North Carolina
weather is going to bring. It could be

1082
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:21,679
80° in December. So, uh but anyway, I
think the date was December the 7th or

1083
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:26,639
the 9th. I'm not real sure on that, but
I will get back and let everybody know

1084
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:30,719
the exact exactly date. It would be on a
weekend when we do it. So, but anyway,

1085
01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:34,639
again, thanks for what everybody
everybody does and again, thanks to the

1086
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:40,719
sheriff department for helping us out
and u and just being there with us.

1087
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:43,760
That's all I got.
>> Mayor Pro Tim Griggs,

1088
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:49,360
» uh I just like to say I'd like to I'm
glad to see everyone come out. I'm happy

1089
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:53,360
to know that you're interested in what
goes on in your town. Whether everybody

1090
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:58,560
is for it or against it, I think
everybody has a voice. And keep coming

1091
01:26:56,719 --> 01:27:02,719
because it's not going to work unless
we're together. It'll work for you this

1092
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:08,080
time, work for somebody else the next
time. But just keep coming. Don't quit.

1093
01:27:05,199 --> 01:27:11,520
Keep hitting at it. Let us improve.
That's all I have to say.

1094
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:17,280
» Commissioner Whitehurst,
>> I got something to say this evening. I

1095
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:22,639
don't normally talk. Um, back in
January, a citizen raised the issue of

1096
01:27:19,679 --> 01:27:28,560
gbody parts.com. It was a mess down
there and it was an eyesore in our town.

1097
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:35,120
Um, the manager and the mayor contacted
the owner, Mr. Brian Weaver. He's out of

1098
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:40,639
Indiana now. And, um, I've known Brian
since he came to town in ' 07. We got

1099
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:45,520
together and
um, what are we going to do about it?

1100
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:50,880
Um, we're trying to clean this town. He
doesn't live here anymore, but he spent

1101
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:57,920
well over $150,000
to move those cars to clean that lot up.

1102
01:27:54,400 --> 01:28:02,880
Now, we've had a lot of volunteer help.
Um been down there cleaning the lot. If

1103
01:28:00,719 --> 01:28:08,639
you I wish you'd go by and see it. It's
looking like it should have. Um there's

1104
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:14,239
a couple of things going on there now.
And and if somebody's got a suggestion,

1105
01:28:10,639 --> 01:28:18,480
I'd appreciate it. We pulled 972 tires
out of that building. I don't know a

1106
01:28:16,239 --> 01:28:23,280
good tire from a bad one. They're
sitting out over Well, you'll see them.

1107
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:27,199
You can't miss them. If there's
anybody's interest in those tires for

1108
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:34,159
any reason at all, every tire that
somebody takes, I don't have to get

1109
01:28:29,679 --> 01:28:39,040
somebody to move. Also, there is a
probably a tractor trailer load of

1110
01:28:36,639 --> 01:28:44,080
furniture inside that building. It's
decent furniture and there's a point at

1111
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:51,280
which we're going to have to bring a
dumpster in. It's good furniture. If

1112
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:56,239
you're interested, please let me know. I
don't want any money for it. There must

1113
01:28:53,360 --> 01:29:02,800
be folks that we all know that could use
um dresser drawers or sofa or bed or

1114
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:07,679
something like that. And all we have to
do is go down there. we'll open the gate

1115
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:14,639
and if you bring you a tractor trailer,
you're going to end up all full of

1116
01:29:10,239 --> 01:29:20,000
furniture. But that is a man who he was
here. He got here in ' 07. He left about

1117
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:24,719
four years ago. And he cares about what
happens in Bethl. Now, he's a growler

1118
01:29:22,719 --> 01:29:29,360
just like a lot of us are, but he cares
about what happens in Bethl. And he

1119
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:37,199
spent a tremendous amount of money down
there to clean that place up. So, if you

1120
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:41,679
go by, you know, give me a thumbs up on
Facebook, would you? Okay. Thank

1121
01:29:40,232 --> 01:29:44,239
[snorts] you,
>> Commissioner Jones.

1122
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:48,800
» Well, I'm certainly glad to see
everybody out as well. And I I would

1123
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:53,120
just like to if you know, they say it's
bad when you start calling out names,

1124
01:29:50,239 --> 01:29:58,800
but Mr. Mr. Brown, Miss Mayo, for the
interest you've taken in the town and

1125
01:29:56,239 --> 01:30:05,199
investments here to
uh bring some life back to the town. We

1126
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:10,417
certainly appreciate that. So,
>> pray it all goes well for you.

1127
01:30:08,397 --> 01:30:10,417
[clears throat]

1128
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:18,560
» Okay. I guess it's up to me now. Okay.
Um, I just like to say thank everyone

1129
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:24,400
for continue coming out for your support
of me as mayor and support of this board

1130
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:28,560
of commissioners here. And as you go
through the town, you look around, you

1131
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:32,719
see things are
are looking up and we still have a lot

1132
01:30:31,199 --> 01:30:37,840
of people that really have an interest
in Bethl to bring things to Bethl. And

1133
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:44,400
all we have to do is just give them the
opportunity to come and and express

1134
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:50,320
their ideas with Bethl such as Mr. Brown
and Miss Mayo have done and uh Dr. more

1135
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:54,639
with the youth center over there and uh
Miss Miss Reese and and Miss Barbara

1136
01:30:52,800 --> 01:31:00,719
Flake from the library. They really have
a great interest in um uh promoting the

1137
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:04,560
library and stuff. So, we we we just
thank those all those people and anybody

1138
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:08,719
else that's coming to Bethl that's
trying to help Bethl to move forward and

1139
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:12,880
and continue to bring the community
together. Uh Miss Azora, she's done a

1140
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:17,520
great job on working on the buildings
over on Smith Street there. They they

1141
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:20,320
look fantastic on Barnhill Street there.
They're looking good. And hopefully we

1142
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:24,560
can get Smith Street looking like
Barnhill Street eventually and stuff.

1143
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:30,159
And so I just want to say thank each and
everyone for your support and and help

1144
01:31:27,679 --> 01:31:33,520
us as a community to continue to work
together and support one another and

1145
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:37,760
we're going to move continue to move
forward. We thank the sheriff department

1146
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:41,920
for what they're doing and and coming
throughout Bethl doing the patrolling

1147
01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:49,679
and everything. And we got all uh we got
uh first time with us here uh def uh uh

1148
01:31:45,440 --> 01:31:53,440
deputy Maloney with us to tonight and uh
she's getting a taste of Bethl. This is

1149
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:58,320
her first is it your first time coming
to Bethl as

1150
01:31:55,360 --> 01:32:02,400
» first contract. Okay. All right. And
having said that, we we thank everyone

1151
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:07,520
to just keep us in your prayers and and
and we still trying to get more and more

1152
01:32:05,440 --> 01:32:12,239
people in the rural area to continue to
come to the town because they may be

1153
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:18,080
just outside our ETJ. Whatever affects
the town um still affects them also. And

1154
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:21,920
if you notice, we still got uh new homes
that are study going up. And then just

1155
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:25,600
the overall look of the town is looking
better. We got the mural that's up on

1156
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:29,920
the the uh hopefully we'll have the
mental health center open real soon. and

1157
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:34,080
and things are happening around town.
Great things are happening. The Smith

1158
01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:38,000
Street Park uh that's being paved,
worked on constantly and eventually

1159
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:42,960
that'll be completed and stuff and we're
just moving from one project to the next

1160
01:32:40,239 --> 01:32:46,639
and we thank our town manager for all
he's doing and our town attorneys and

1161
01:32:44,719 --> 01:32:51,920
this board of commissioners for working
together to get things done. And having

1162
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:57,080
said that, um at this time, do I have a
mo motion to go into our close session?

1163
01:32:59,199 --> 01:33:06,480
I failed to mention uh earlier that we
do have a closed session per the statute

1164
01:33:04,159 --> 01:33:09,920
statute was mentioned in your um agenda
package. I think we've got uh we're

1165
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:13,520
going to have a personnel matter and
also an issue that we it relates to the

1166
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:16,639
attorney client privilege. Thank you,
mayor.

1167
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:21,840
» All right. So, having said that, um
we're going to close out. Do I have a

1168
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:26,080
motion to go into our
>> closing? Motion made by Commissioner

1169
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:28,880
Lily. Uh, do I have a second?
>> Second.

1170
01:33:26,639 --> 01:33:33,440
» Second by
>> Mayor Pro Tim Griggs. All in favor raise

1171
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:40,920
your right hand.
Motion carry unanimous. We thank y'all

1172
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:40,920
for coming and be safe out there.

1173
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,760
» Called you out, didn't I?
>> Huh?

1174
01:33:44,719 --> 01:33:48,800
» I called you out.
>> Do you guys have some kind of special

1175
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:51,520
love affair or something? What's up with
that?

1176
01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:54,080
» Must be my blessing. My son the bedroom.
He just moved out of my house.

1177
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:58,159
» Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah. I'm I'mma think y'all. Can I get

1178
01:33:56,159 --> 01:34:03,760
your number or you give me your name?
>> Oh, I'm at Yeah. So he needs that make

1179
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,760
life big, brother.