1 00:00:00,175 --> 00:00:01,165 Speed differentials. 2 00:00:01,165 --> 00:00:02,165 Be 3 00:00:02,495 --> 00:00:03,495 Sorry. That's okay. Between 4 00:00:03,495 --> 00:00:04,445 vehicles, 5 00:00:04,445 --> 00:00:07,125 some drivers obey the lowest posted speed while others 6 00:00:07,955 --> 00:00:10,045 feel it's unreasonable and simply ignore it. 7 00:00:10,395 --> 00:00:12,565 This disrupts the uniform traffic flow 8 00:00:12,565 --> 00:00:14,245 and increases accident potential. 9 00:00:15,085 --> 00:00:17,325 Traumatic in differences in vehicle speeds can lead 10 00:00:17,325 --> 00:00:20,565 to aggressive driving, tailgating, unsafe passing, 11 00:00:20,745 --> 00:00:23,365 and accidents associated with these conditions. 12 00:00:24,155 --> 00:00:26,165 Uniform predictable speeds provide 13 00:00:26,165 --> 00:00:28,845 for better accuracy when judging gaps in traffic, 14 00:00:28,895 --> 00:00:32,285 which is important for traffic entering from intersections 15 00:00:32,285 --> 00:00:34,325 and driveways and for pedestrians crossing the roadway. 16 00:00:34,835 --> 00:00:37,725 Furthermore, state directives recommend not placing more 17 00:00:37,725 --> 00:00:41,205 than 30% of drivers in violation of a posted speed limit. 18 00:00:41,555 --> 00:00:43,925 This recommendation is based on safety as well 19 00:00:43,925 --> 00:00:46,765 as the legal concept of imposing a speed trap, 20 00:00:46,935 --> 00:00:49,845 which can be deemed by the judicial system as unreasonable 21 00:00:50,105 --> 00:00:51,685 and therefore unenforceable. 22 00:00:52,465 --> 00:00:56,765 The 85% of percentile speed was measured near your driveway, 23 00:00:57,175 --> 00:00:59,245 which was at 1587. 24 00:00:59,245 --> 00:01:01,925 Route 17 B in bevel to be eight, I'm sorry, 25 00:01:01,925 --> 00:01:03,325 45 miles an hour. 26 00:01:03,895 --> 00:01:05,565 Where Dan, where is that exactly? 27 00:01:05,945 --> 00:01:10,205 The late, um, It's, it's by Sue. It's by Right. 28 00:01:10,275 --> 00:01:11,605 Someone had written us a letter 29 00:01:11,745 --> 00:01:14,525 and we forwarded it to the state with her recommendations. 30 00:01:15,795 --> 00:01:18,525 Well, it says It took over a year for them to respond. 31 00:01:18,635 --> 00:01:21,085 Yeah. If we have, we've had a couple more Go ahead. 32 00:01:21,085 --> 00:01:23,085 Follow up letters since then about the highway. 33 00:01:24,025 --> 00:01:27,325 So here's, there's, if we were to lower the speed limit, 34 00:01:27,465 --> 00:01:30,485 if they approve the lower speed limit under 30 as requested, 35 00:01:30,865 --> 00:01:33,925 it would put 95% of the drivers in violation. 36 00:01:34,375 --> 00:01:36,085 Based on the previous information. 37 00:01:36,465 --> 00:01:39,325 The current posted speed limit of 40 is appropriate 38 00:01:39,545 --> 00:01:40,685 for this section of highway. 39 00:01:41,625 --> 00:01:44,285 Ms. Taylor. That was her name requested in police, 40 00:01:45,105 --> 00:01:47,485 police presence and enforcement in this vicinity. 41 00:01:47,595 --> 00:01:50,165 Your letter is attached and has been sent to the local 42 00:01:50,225 --> 00:01:52,805 and enforcement professionals in the area. 43 00:01:53,565 --> 00:01:56,065 Troop F, which is the state troopers 44 00:01:56,165 --> 00:01:57,345 and the Sullivan County Sheriff. 45 00:01:57,445 --> 00:01:59,145 Yes. For their review in action. 46 00:01:59,145 --> 00:02:01,145 Further, you can request a variable 47 00:02:01,145 --> 00:02:02,425 message board through them. 48 00:02:03,365 --> 00:02:04,585 She also, excuse me, 49 00:02:04,585 --> 00:02:06,985 requested flashing lights be installed on warning 50 00:02:07,115 --> 00:02:08,705 signs in this vicinity. 51 00:02:09,055 --> 00:02:12,825 This type of system is a high level safety device reserved 52 00:02:12,825 --> 00:02:15,265 for high accident locations with known crashes. 53 00:02:15,685 --> 00:02:17,425 The most currently available three years 54 00:02:17,445 --> 00:02:19,065 of crash data were reviewed. 55 00:02:19,395 --> 00:02:22,465 There are no pedestrians related crashes within that term. 56 00:02:23,295 --> 00:02:25,625 However, highway improvements will be accomplished 57 00:02:25,645 --> 00:02:27,625 as a result of your express concern. 58 00:02:29,165 --> 00:02:32,985 Two new pedestrian warning signs will be installed on 17 B 59 00:02:32,985 --> 00:02:34,745 facing east and westbound traffic. 60 00:02:35,285 --> 00:02:37,625 The new signs will be located near the firehouse 61 00:02:38,005 --> 00:02:39,145 and across the street. 62 00:02:39,605 --> 00:02:40,905 The intent of these signs is 63 00:02:40,905 --> 00:02:42,625 to give the road user increased notice 64 00:02:42,645 --> 00:02:44,225 of the potential for pedestrians. 65 00:02:45,065 --> 00:02:46,345 DOT maintenance forces. 66 00:02:46,745 --> 00:02:49,505 Sullivan County Residency will complete the upgrade 67 00:02:49,605 --> 00:02:51,865 as their time and resources allow. 68 00:02:52,355 --> 00:02:53,785 Thank you for your interest in highway 69 00:02:53,885 --> 00:02:55,905 safety, yada, yada, yada. 70 00:02:57,035 --> 00:02:59,310 So the bottom line is they're gonna put a few more signs up. 71 00:02:59,310 --> 00:03:00,730 They're not gonna lower the speed limit. 72 00:03:01,195 --> 00:03:05,045 It's more than they've done in the past. Right. So, uh, but 73 00:03:05,045 --> 00:03:06,045 The same recycled letter. 74 00:03:06,315 --> 00:03:08,125 Yeah, but they added a little, they did some stuff. 75 00:03:08,625 --> 00:03:10,685 Uh, motion to receive and file. I'll 76 00:03:10,685 --> 00:03:11,685 Make a Motion. Lillian 77 00:03:11,685 --> 00:03:15,275 second by Ernie. All in favor? Um, 78 00:03:16,055 --> 00:03:17,835 And she has a copy of this. Yeah, 79 00:03:17,835 --> 00:03:18,835 I think she sent it to her. 80 00:03:18,945 --> 00:03:22,835 Yeah. Again, I had an opportunity to meet about a month ago 81 00:03:22,835 --> 00:03:24,555 with Matt who's here with us tonight, 82 00:03:25,015 --> 00:03:27,555 and at Assemblywoman Gunther's office with 83 00:03:28,095 --> 00:03:31,795 the people from DOT to do a complete review outside 84 00:03:31,795 --> 00:03:36,435 of this request for 17 BI was able to, uh, 85 00:03:36,485 --> 00:03:40,595 point out the hot spots, the, the traffic issues that a lot 86 00:03:40,595 --> 00:03:42,035 of people up and down 17 B. 87 00:03:42,095 --> 00:03:44,435 So they are reviewing the entire 17 B 88 00:03:44,895 --> 00:03:46,355 and maybe they'll make some improvements. 89 00:03:46,825 --> 00:03:49,555 Okay. So thank you Matt, for setting that up. Raymond. 90 00:03:50,615 --> 00:03:53,475 The interesting part is where they did the survey, 91 00:03:53,975 --> 00:03:57,435 if it would've gone to 15 96, 17 B, 92 00:03:57,645 --> 00:04:00,915 which is the white Lake firehouse, I used to write a quarter 93 00:04:00,915 --> 00:04:02,995 of a million dollars worth of tickets a year. 94 00:04:05,145 --> 00:04:08,855 Thank you Raymond. Alright. Uh, motion. I'm sorry. 95 00:04:08,855 --> 00:04:11,615 Motion to receive and file. Did we do that already? You did. 96 00:04:11,635 --> 00:04:14,015 We did. Okay. We did. Sorry, Brenda did that. Ready? 97 00:04:14,285 --> 00:04:18,655 Alright, Let's do one more. Uh, here's another one. 98 00:04:19,405 --> 00:04:20,775 This is an application. 99 00:04:22,465 --> 00:04:24,635 It's called Happy Family Farm Micro. 100 00:04:25,905 --> 00:04:28,925 And you know why it's gonna be a happy family farm? Yeah. 101 00:04:28,925 --> 00:04:32,205 They're, because they're looking for a notification 102 00:04:32,205 --> 00:04:36,445 of a micro business with retail authorization for 103 00:04:37,005 --> 00:04:38,565 marijuana cultivation and retail. 104 00:04:39,415 --> 00:04:40,765 Again, it's just a notification. 105 00:04:40,775 --> 00:04:43,165 We're not approving anything. It's a notice to us. 106 00:04:43,575 --> 00:04:46,845 Where, um, this one, I believe we looked it up today, 107 00:04:47,195 --> 00:04:50,205 it's on Happy Avenue near the, um, 108 00:04:51,735 --> 00:04:55,285 Happy, Uh, Sturgis, the old Sturgis farm. Okay. 109 00:04:56,205 --> 00:04:59,125 Possibly, yes. Somewhere around there. 110 00:04:59,125 --> 00:05:00,045 Somewhere around there. 111 00:05:00,045 --> 00:05:01,125 We weren't even hundred percent sure. 112 00:05:01,495 --> 00:05:03,285 Again, you know, we're not approving anything. 113 00:05:03,555 --> 00:05:04,555 Just getting the notice 114 00:05:06,335 --> 00:05:08,165 Every time I come to someone, 115 00:05:10,945 --> 00:05:14,885 we have a list on how many dispensaries we gonna have 116 00:05:15,025 --> 00:05:17,125 or just if everybody wants grow it 117 00:05:17,125 --> 00:05:18,125 And sell it. 118 00:05:18,195 --> 00:05:19,205 Yeah. I, you know what? 119 00:05:19,245 --> 00:05:21,285 I believe that the, the health department is the, 120 00:05:21,465 --> 00:05:23,645 is the agency that approves them. 121 00:05:24,105 --> 00:05:26,005 It has to be allowed, which it is 122 00:05:26,005 --> 00:05:27,245 allowed in the town of Bethel. 123 00:05:27,245 --> 00:05:28,365 Subject, a lengthy process. 124 00:05:28,365 --> 00:05:30,605 There's a lengthy process to go through. Yeah. 125 00:05:30,625 --> 00:05:31,805 But I mean, is there a limit? 126 00:05:31,825 --> 00:05:33,405 Are we gonna have one on every quarter 127 00:05:33,425 --> 00:05:34,425 Of a mile? I don't 128 00:05:34,425 --> 00:05:35,645 think they would approve something like 129 00:05:35,645 --> 00:05:37,605 that again, I don't think, I don't know for sure, 130 00:05:37,665 --> 00:05:38,765 but I don't know if all of these 131 00:05:38,765 --> 00:05:39,845 are gonna go through or not. 132 00:05:40,385 --> 00:05:43,405 Um, but we did receive a couple lately. Um, yeah, 133 00:05:43,405 --> 00:05:45,565 There was a, right, there was a moratorium for a year 134 00:05:45,565 --> 00:05:49,725 because there were so backlog and they rework their laws 135 00:05:50,225 --> 00:05:53,405 and that the window just open a 30 day window 136 00:05:53,425 --> 00:05:55,085 and that's why you're seeing them all at one. 137 00:05:59,595 --> 00:06:02,205 Hold on Angel. One second. One second. It's 138 00:06:02,205 --> 00:06:03,685 Full of all the information On. 139 00:06:03,755 --> 00:06:05,005 Alright, so just gimme one second. 140 00:06:05,465 --> 00:06:08,325 If we could, I'd like to add, uh, get a motion just 141 00:06:08,325 --> 00:06:12,325 to receive and file the notification by Vicky. 142 00:06:13,445 --> 00:06:15,885 I heard everybody, but both Bernie All in favor? 143 00:06:17,585 --> 00:06:18,645 And Andrew, you had a comment 144 00:06:18,985 --> 00:06:20,925 As I walked up, I realized this is not part 145 00:06:21,025 --> 00:06:22,205 of a budget discussion. 146 00:06:22,275 --> 00:06:23,445 Okay. So I 147 00:06:23,865 --> 00:06:24,685 That's cool. So yeah, 148 00:06:24,945 --> 00:06:25,945 So go ahead. I'll make 149 00:06:25,945 --> 00:06:26,605 it quick. Yep. 150 00:06:26,745 --> 00:06:30,125 So these, uh, anything cannabis related, will that be 151 00:06:30,995 --> 00:06:33,085 inclusive in the comprehensive plan? 152 00:06:33,145 --> 00:06:36,365 The new comprehensive plan? Is that where that all live? 153 00:06:36,905 --> 00:06:38,605 It could be, right? Could be. 154 00:06:39,225 --> 00:06:41,845 Uh, I mean right now it has to be. Um, 155 00:06:42,785 --> 00:06:44,125 So I talked some Yeah, go ahead. 156 00:06:44,325 --> 00:06:46,445 I talked to, is it, her name is Christine 157 00:06:47,225 --> 00:06:49,365 Or Christine Christie. Christine. C Right. 158 00:06:49,865 --> 00:06:53,285 She held up the paperwork, she said on about a quarter 159 00:06:53,345 --> 00:06:56,515 of the way through this enormous pile 160 00:06:56,535 --> 00:06:58,155 of papers from the state. 161 00:06:58,205 --> 00:07:02,075 Right. So I understand that she's like inundated 162 00:07:02,145 --> 00:07:03,155 with her job 163 00:07:03,295 --> 00:07:07,195 and also this new position of reading through all this code 164 00:07:07,195 --> 00:07:08,915 and trying to figure out how to write code 165 00:07:09,415 --> 00:07:12,835 and then also figure out how to enforce the code code. 166 00:07:12,835 --> 00:07:15,515 But I mean, this is coming in really quickly. 167 00:07:16,145 --> 00:07:17,235 Okay. Right. 168 00:07:17,515 --> 00:07:20,195 I know it's not part of the budget, that's all. I'm sorry. 169 00:07:20,415 --> 00:07:23,395 No problem. But, uh, we need to figure out 170 00:07:23,565 --> 00:07:24,635 where this is gonna live 171 00:07:24,735 --> 00:07:27,915 and how it's gonna be appropriately handled. 172 00:07:29,665 --> 00:07:31,475 Okay. So is it Like, I don't know. 173 00:07:31,475 --> 00:07:33,915 Alright, let me just try to Yeah. Clarify some of that. 174 00:07:33,965 --> 00:07:36,035 These are just notifications which may or may not happen. 175 00:07:36,035 --> 00:07:38,155 Yeah, yeah, yeah. However, uh, year ago 176 00:07:38,575 --> 00:07:42,075 or thereabouts, the towns had an option to either opt in 177 00:07:42,295 --> 00:07:43,715 or opt retail or opt out. 178 00:07:43,895 --> 00:07:45,475 The town of Bethel did not opt out. 179 00:07:45,615 --> 00:07:48,515 We, we opted in opt, we did not opt out. Sure. 180 00:07:48,535 --> 00:07:49,875 It would've been a, a vote. 181 00:07:50,035 --> 00:07:51,275 I think it was a public hearing you had to have. 182 00:07:51,615 --> 00:07:52,835 We did not do that. Yeah. 183 00:07:53,015 --> 00:07:55,555 So now that people are allowed to do it in the town 184 00:07:55,555 --> 00:07:57,755 of Bethel, but we do have zoning in the town of Bethel. 185 00:07:57,755 --> 00:07:59,235 Sure. So you can't just open up a store, 186 00:07:59,235 --> 00:08:01,155 even if the health department gives you approval 187 00:08:01,295 --> 00:08:03,475 and the cannabis board gives you approval. 188 00:08:03,735 --> 00:08:05,555 He can't just open up a store and 189 00:08:05,555 --> 00:08:06,835 It's too early to figure out where. 190 00:08:07,225 --> 00:08:09,555 Well, at the moment it's a retail use. 191 00:08:10,095 --> 00:08:14,195 So anywhere that the retail use is allowed, it restricts you 192 00:08:14,195 --> 00:08:15,595 to where retail use is allowed. 193 00:08:15,655 --> 00:08:17,435 Retail is not allowed in every district. Right. 194 00:08:17,495 --> 00:08:20,475 But you could do it in, in Lake is one 195 00:08:20,475 --> 00:08:21,835 of those commun CS district. 196 00:08:21,835 --> 00:08:24,035 Yes. It would be allowed. Yeah. 197 00:08:24,815 --> 00:08:28,035 But so the ones that we have, if I'm not mistaken, 198 00:08:28,135 --> 00:08:29,675 so we do have zoning for right now, 199 00:08:29,895 --> 00:08:32,475 absent any other thing that the health department does. 200 00:08:32,535 --> 00:08:35,235 We have zoning right now, the ones that are here, 201 00:08:35,295 --> 00:08:36,755 for example, the River Edge is an 202 00:08:37,075 --> 00:08:38,155 existing, it was a restaurant. 203 00:08:38,565 --> 00:08:40,995 Right. You know, so they would uh, 204 00:08:41,225 --> 00:08:43,155 they put would be allowed to sell, you know, 205 00:08:44,075 --> 00:08:45,435 Anything of the the, 206 00:08:46,575 --> 00:08:48,035 Uh, I will tell you, lemme tell you 207 00:08:48,035 --> 00:08:49,075 where we got 'em so far. 208 00:08:49,535 --> 00:08:51,955 We have one for tonight for the River Edge. Right. 209 00:08:52,015 --> 00:08:55,245 We have one for Java Love, which was an existing business. 210 00:08:55,245 --> 00:08:58,285 Yeah. Uh, Woodstock Oasis. Sure. 211 00:08:58,535 --> 00:09:01,805 Three don't, don't tell me, uh, the one tonight 212 00:09:01,865 --> 00:09:04,245 for Happy Avenue, which is a little complicated 213 00:09:04,245 --> 00:09:06,125 because that's uh, an ag district. 214 00:09:06,125 --> 00:09:07,925 So I'm sure they're okay to grow it. 215 00:09:08,245 --> 00:09:11,085 I don't know offhand if they can have a retail out. 216 00:09:13,015 --> 00:09:14,165 Maybe. I, I don't know. 217 00:09:14,165 --> 00:09:16,365 That's a question for the, uh, building department. Right. 218 00:09:16,365 --> 00:09:19,245 Whether you could actually sell what you grow. 219 00:09:19,805 --> 00:09:22,325 'cause it's retail use is not allowed in the Ag zone. Sure. 220 00:09:22,745 --> 00:09:24,125 So that, I'm not sure that's a 221 00:09:24,245 --> 00:09:25,285 question for the building department. 222 00:09:25,355 --> 00:09:28,165 Okay. And there was one one and Bethel Woods had one. Right. 223 00:09:28,175 --> 00:09:30,685 Which is allowed as a, as a business that's allowed, 224 00:09:30,755 --> 00:09:31,685 it's the only ones I know of 225 00:09:31,845 --> 00:09:32,965 so far, unless I missed a couple. 226 00:09:33,555 --> 00:09:34,805 Five. Five Five. 227 00:09:34,905 --> 00:09:36,205 And again, we have zoning there 228 00:09:36,205 --> 00:09:38,165 so you can't just throw it anywhere in town. Right. 229 00:09:38,665 --> 00:09:40,365 And one, we're not sure about the retail 230 00:09:40,625 --> 00:09:41,685 And we're not sure about that one in 231 00:09:41,685 --> 00:09:42,805 retail for growing only. 232 00:09:42,825 --> 00:09:44,685 We don't, these are, 233 00:09:45,405 --> 00:09:49,365 I understand that it's all new and code is not written 234 00:09:49,465 --> 00:09:52,725 and it's not even kind of a bullet on the regular. 235 00:09:53,625 --> 00:09:55,805 So I would say we're covered for now. Yeah. 236 00:09:56,025 --> 00:09:57,125 As far as not no zoning. 237 00:09:57,185 --> 00:09:59,165 We have some zoning that covers that we do. 238 00:09:59,625 --> 00:10:00,645 Um, and also one 239 00:10:00,645 --> 00:10:02,725 of the things is when we're talking about the budget, 240 00:10:03,545 --> 00:10:06,045 the marijuana sales is one of the only things, 241 00:10:06,225 --> 00:10:08,685 the only thing in New York State that gets sold 242 00:10:08,995 --> 00:10:12,045 with a local municipality gets either two 243 00:10:12,105 --> 00:10:16,365 or 3% of the sales tax outside of the county. 244 00:10:16,515 --> 00:10:18,885 Matt, I don't know if you know the number No, 245 00:10:19,065 --> 00:10:20,445 but it's either two or 3%. 246 00:10:20,645 --> 00:10:22,725 I read that. Yeah. But again, it's, you know, the state, 247 00:10:22,725 --> 00:10:24,445 the county does not share sales tax with us. 248 00:10:24,705 --> 00:10:26,645 So anything, I've never, you know, 249 00:10:26,645 --> 00:10:28,925 that's the only thing in New York state that they came up 250 00:10:28,925 --> 00:10:31,485 with, with their actual local municipality is allowed 251 00:10:31,485 --> 00:10:32,685 to get some of the sales tax. 252 00:10:32,895 --> 00:10:35,085 Right. So that's not a bad thing. It'll help our budget. 253 00:10:35,525 --> 00:10:38,685 'cause we have a lot of people that are a lot, a lot 254 00:10:38,685 --> 00:10:41,685 of entities that are not paying their fair share Right. 255 00:10:41,705 --> 00:10:44,085 To the town. Right. So we might as well get whatever we can. 256 00:10:44,365 --> 00:10:46,085 I think so. Right. We agree. 257 00:10:46,235 --> 00:10:48,645 Yeah. So, but we will keep an eye on that, um, 258 00:10:48,905 --> 00:10:50,325 to make sure it doesn't get outta hand 259 00:10:51,465 --> 00:10:53,085 Get, I'm sorry. 260 00:10:53,425 --> 00:10:55,405 That's okay. But I get your point. 261 00:10:55,405 --> 00:10:57,085 Alright, thank you very much. 262 00:10:57,785 --> 00:10:59,645 Um, well let's do this, let's do, uh, 263 00:10:59,885 --> 00:11:01,445 comments from the board and then we'll open it up 264 00:11:01,445 --> 00:11:03,165 for more public comment from the audience. 265 00:11:03,905 --> 00:11:04,905 And Lillian, 266 00:11:06,115 --> 00:11:08,535 It is very, very nice to see all 267 00:11:10,165 --> 00:11:11,695 here from the government list. 268 00:11:12,575 --> 00:11:14,295 I a few from Monticello. 269 00:11:14,975 --> 00:11:17,415 I don't know if anybody is from anywhere else, 270 00:11:18,155 --> 00:11:21,495 but it's very nice to see you at our town board meeting. 271 00:11:22,315 --> 00:11:25,335 Um, I hope you're enjoying your government class 272 00:11:26,315 --> 00:11:28,815 and I hope the three of you don go to college. 273 00:11:29,095 --> 00:11:31,615 I know one because he's my favorite boy. 274 00:11:32,875 --> 00:11:35,975 So that young man is the nicest young man 275 00:11:35,975 --> 00:11:38,135 and he works at McDonald's now 276 00:11:38,955 --> 00:11:42,415 and his stomach wine, then he works with his father. 277 00:11:42,965 --> 00:11:45,295 Yeah. He worked in the, at McDonald's 278 00:11:45,295 --> 00:11:50,095 and then he works at my, so we go there. 279 00:11:52,725 --> 00:11:54,265 Very, very nice to see. 280 00:11:55,615 --> 00:11:58,345 It's very important that you get involved in government. 281 00:11:58,895 --> 00:12:03,705 Very important. And I hope you all succeed in life. 282 00:12:04,635 --> 00:12:05,765 Have a good time in college, 283 00:12:05,945 --> 00:12:07,325 but make sure, keep your grades up. 284 00:12:08,395 --> 00:12:11,605 Okay. Thank you. Especially you my little man. 285 00:12:12,615 --> 00:12:15,085 Thank you Lillian. Anna comments? Vicki? 286 00:12:15,475 --> 00:12:18,845 Yeah, I just wanna say, um, this is the last budget 287 00:12:19,545 --> 00:12:23,005 I'm gonna be working on and uh, it is really nice 288 00:12:23,005 --> 00:12:24,365 to see so many people out. 289 00:12:24,485 --> 00:12:26,605 I, I don't remember such a lively discussion 290 00:12:26,625 --> 00:12:29,205 of a town budget, um, in years. 291 00:12:29,985 --> 00:12:32,085 And it is, it's really wonderful to see 292 00:12:32,185 --> 00:12:33,485 so many people, so interested. 293 00:12:33,745 --> 00:12:37,005 Um, and I really, I really mean that I, I hope more 294 00:12:37,005 --> 00:12:39,125 and more people get involved, um, 295 00:12:39,875 --> 00:12:43,645 because I've had the pleasure of working with this board 296 00:12:43,745 --> 00:12:47,525 and, and this gentleman right here who will start tomorrow 297 00:12:48,645 --> 00:12:50,325 probably working on next year's budget. 298 00:12:50,355 --> 00:12:53,005 Yeah. Once I get this in, he'll get all the papers out 299 00:12:53,025 --> 00:12:54,125 and start working on it. 300 00:12:54,145 --> 00:12:57,445 And, and he's been a wonderful, wonderful, um, 301 00:12:58,065 --> 00:13:01,805 budget officer, class supervisor for so many years. 302 00:13:02,345 --> 00:13:05,325 And as you can see, we have come a long way where we used 303 00:13:05,325 --> 00:13:08,405 to be so much with so much debt to the point 304 00:13:08,405 --> 00:13:11,205 where I believe right now, um, the highway department, 305 00:13:11,785 --> 00:13:15,405 we don't have any, no bonds, any bonds, anything. 306 00:13:16,545 --> 00:13:18,245 And, and that doesn't just happen. 307 00:13:18,705 --> 00:13:20,485 That's a lot of careful planning 308 00:13:21,025 --> 00:13:23,165 and there's been a lot of careful planning over the years. 309 00:13:23,465 --> 00:13:26,485 And Dan, it has been my pleasure to work 310 00:13:26,485 --> 00:13:28,085 with you on these budgets over the years. 311 00:13:28,185 --> 00:13:29,805 So I thank you for that very much. Likewise. 312 00:13:29,865 --> 00:13:32,685 And again, I thank everybody for coming out tonight. 313 00:13:32,715 --> 00:13:34,645 This has been a pleasure to, 314 00:13:34,785 --> 00:13:36,365 to see everybody so interested in it. 315 00:13:36,585 --> 00:13:37,725 So I thank you all 316 00:13:38,665 --> 00:13:41,965 and, uh, I can't say I'll miss working on the budget, 317 00:13:42,425 --> 00:13:47,125 but, uh, uh, this has been, um, a great experience tonight 318 00:13:47,305 --> 00:13:48,685 and I want to thank you all for coming. 319 00:13:49,135 --> 00:13:50,525 Thank you. Uh, Lillian, you had, 320 00:13:50,905 --> 00:13:52,285 I'd like to say one more thing. 321 00:13:52,885 --> 00:13:56,885 I don't know how we're gonna get along without she, 322 00:13:57,435 --> 00:14:00,885 when I first came on the town board, she helped me so much. 323 00:14:01,865 --> 00:14:05,725 She is just a wonderful, wonderful person 324 00:14:06,225 --> 00:14:08,795 and she knows a thank you. 325 00:14:10,445 --> 00:14:12,595 Thank you, Lillian. I agree. Thank you, Lillian. 326 00:14:12,595 --> 00:14:14,435 Thank you Vicki. Uh, Bernie. 327 00:14:14,905 --> 00:14:17,195 Okay, well I hope this isn't my last budget, 328 00:14:17,735 --> 00:14:22,715 but, uh, I, uh, I just want 329 00:14:22,715 --> 00:14:26,075 to comment that the, uh, Robbie's doing a good job. 330 00:14:26,385 --> 00:14:30,605 He's, uh, he's been on, on the job every day of the week, 331 00:14:30,825 --> 00:14:32,005 uh, early in the morning 332 00:14:32,945 --> 00:14:35,845 and I hope he don't fall asleep on the way home. 333 00:14:38,625 --> 00:14:41,485 But anyway, uh, a lot of stuff's getting done 334 00:14:42,225 --> 00:14:45,485 and uh, I know he's, uh, he did a lot 335 00:14:45,485 --> 00:14:49,325 of black topping this year and, uh, just did a good job. 336 00:14:49,465 --> 00:14:53,045 The roads, uh, the roads really show it. 337 00:14:53,435 --> 00:14:57,575 It's, uh, it's nice. People are happy. Thank you Rob. 338 00:14:57,925 --> 00:15:00,535 Alright, thanks Bernie. And Billy comments, 339 00:15:01,475 --> 00:15:03,855 Uh, CBH quiet last couple months? 340 00:15:04,435 --> 00:15:06,135 No, uh, no variances, parks 341 00:15:06,135 --> 00:15:08,895 and rec Sunday, we had a hall fun day. 342 00:15:08,895 --> 00:15:12,375 It was a good day. Chilly. But it worked out well. 343 00:15:12,715 --> 00:15:15,995 And, uh, the Christmas fed interviews will start soon. 344 00:15:15,995 --> 00:15:19,155 I'll keep you updated. Thanks for coming out everybody. 345 00:15:19,955 --> 00:15:23,585 Thank you, Billy. And we do, uh, comments from the public. 346 00:15:25,255 --> 00:15:26,705 Mary Ellen, it doesn't have to be about the budget. 347 00:15:27,125 --> 00:15:28,125 Oh, good. 348 00:15:30,495 --> 00:15:33,265 Okay. I have three items that I did wanna talk about. 349 00:15:33,525 --> 00:15:36,745 One was the sewer overflow on Lee Cole Road. 350 00:15:37,445 --> 00:15:39,985 Uh, apparently a bunch of buildings were built 351 00:15:40,605 --> 00:15:42,945 and, uh, they didn't hook up to the sewer 352 00:15:43,805 --> 00:15:47,305 and they were discharging into one of the local rivers. 353 00:15:47,845 --> 00:15:51,705 And DEC apparently has fined those people up 354 00:15:51,705 --> 00:15:53,865 to $37,000 a day. 355 00:15:54,705 --> 00:15:57,185 I don't know if they ever fixed anything, 356 00:15:57,725 --> 00:16:00,105 but my concern is if they were able to bill 357 00:16:00,965 --> 00:16:03,785 and didn't bother hooking up to the sewer plant 358 00:16:04,205 --> 00:16:06,305 and somebody would've been notified if they actually 359 00:16:07,605 --> 00:16:09,465 had hooked up to the sewer. 360 00:16:09,485 --> 00:16:11,705 So somebody, so I don't know how she got, 361 00:16:11,705 --> 00:16:13,505 they got certificates of occupancy 362 00:16:13,645 --> 00:16:15,185 and weren't hooked up to the sewer. 363 00:16:15,615 --> 00:16:17,305 Okay. That's one question. Go ahead. 364 00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:19,465 Um, um, I don't mean to interrupt you. 365 00:16:19,465 --> 00:16:21,465 Yeah, but I think the students have to be out by nine. 366 00:16:21,485 --> 00:16:23,265 Is that right? So if you would just come 367 00:16:23,265 --> 00:16:24,345 up, I'll sign your papers. 368 00:16:25,085 --> 00:16:26,945 All right. You have to be out by nine. Am I right or wrong? 369 00:16:28,655 --> 00:16:31,185 Okay. Mary Ellen, go ahead. I was gonna sign him over here. 370 00:16:33,335 --> 00:16:34,985 Mary Ellen, go ahead. I don't wanna stop you. 371 00:16:36,125 --> 00:16:36,625 No, it's not. 372 00:16:44,245 --> 00:16:46,505 Oh, Mary Ellen, that may be the Town of Liberty. 373 00:16:46,815 --> 00:16:50,665 They, the DEC sent a copy to our town. 374 00:16:50,725 --> 00:16:52,665 Why would they send to town if they 375 00:16:52,665 --> 00:16:56,865 didn't Liberty? 376 00:17:01,335 --> 00:17:02,465 They applied to Liberty, 377 00:17:02,745 --> 00:17:04,825 I believe half of their development. 378 00:17:04,825 --> 00:17:07,185 Mm-Hmm. And I think the other half counter, 379 00:17:07,495 --> 00:17:09,465 because BC identified 380 00:17:11,005 --> 00:17:14,145 Bethel hel Well, they sent a copy to Bethel. 381 00:17:14,165 --> 00:17:17,105 Why would they send a copy to Bethel? But they didn't. 382 00:17:17,105 --> 00:17:19,105 Right. They notified Bethel about the issue. 383 00:17:19,325 --> 00:17:20,585 All right. That should be looked into. 384 00:17:21,215 --> 00:17:22,265 Yeah. Sewer 385 00:17:22,505 --> 00:17:24,185 Districts have the Swan Lake. 386 00:17:24,635 --> 00:17:25,945 Right, right. That's right. 387 00:17:26,645 --> 00:17:28,945 But that's part of that Doesn't matter. 388 00:17:32,015 --> 00:17:34,865 They pay taxes to the Swan Lake Sewer District. 389 00:17:37,375 --> 00:17:38,275 I'm sorry Mary Ellen, but we 390 00:17:38,275 --> 00:17:39,235 gotta get 'em out. Yeah, that's 391 00:17:39,235 --> 00:17:40,235 Okay. I'm 392 00:17:40,235 --> 00:17:43,995 sorry. I heard the, Um, the problem is, of course, 393 00:17:44,055 --> 00:17:47,995 the discharge goes into a tributary of the screens 394 00:17:47,995 --> 00:17:51,485 that eventually go to the New York City water supply. 395 00:17:51,705 --> 00:17:53,765 So I think it would be nice. Yeah. 396 00:17:53,795 --> 00:17:57,885 They get the, um, the other question I have is, 397 00:17:58,225 --> 00:18:01,165 how exactly do we ensure 398 00:18:01,275 --> 00:18:04,485 that the building department knows of people 399 00:18:04,485 --> 00:18:06,845 who are building without permits? 400 00:18:07,845 --> 00:18:09,685 I had a neighbor who started working, 401 00:18:09,875 --> 00:18:10,965 they didn't have a permit. 402 00:18:11,465 --> 00:18:13,725 And when I called the building department, they said, well, 403 00:18:13,725 --> 00:18:14,925 you have to fill out a form. 404 00:18:14,985 --> 00:18:16,005 You have to complain. 405 00:18:17,445 --> 00:18:18,925 I know a lot of people aren't issued, 406 00:18:19,065 --> 00:18:22,365 aren't interested in complaining about their neighbors. 407 00:18:22,755 --> 00:18:26,285 Okay. And I would've thought that my phone call alone, 408 00:18:26,285 --> 00:18:27,605 phone would've been enough to get, 409 00:18:27,605 --> 00:18:29,005 someone could at least drive by. 410 00:18:29,105 --> 00:18:32,205 Not so far, it's down the road that someone would come by 411 00:18:32,205 --> 00:18:34,805 and CG there, or they could, I'm sure they would have a list 412 00:18:34,825 --> 00:18:37,125 of who's got permits and to look up an address 413 00:18:37,225 --> 00:18:38,845 and see whether there's a permit or not. 414 00:18:39,425 --> 00:18:43,325 Um, so, so the people next to me didn't have a permit. 415 00:18:43,915 --> 00:18:46,765 They, they finally went and got a permit. 416 00:18:46,915 --> 00:18:48,445 They haven't done anything on the house. 417 00:18:48,505 --> 00:18:50,725 Now they've lifted the house up in the air. 418 00:18:51,515 --> 00:18:53,805 There's no fence around it or anything. 419 00:18:54,275 --> 00:18:55,485 They haven't done any work. 420 00:18:56,405 --> 00:18:58,605 Whatever dirt they dug up is washing into the lake. 421 00:18:59,805 --> 00:19:02,405 I, I don't know how the, you know, I don't know 422 00:19:02,405 --> 00:19:03,885 what the, I don't know. 423 00:19:04,465 --> 00:19:07,805 Is that okay? Is it not okay? I don't know. Okay. 424 00:19:07,945 --> 00:19:11,365 Um, the other question I have is, there's a house on, uh, 425 00:19:11,475 --> 00:19:15,445 lake Street that was built and looks abandoned. 426 00:19:15,595 --> 00:19:17,525 It's half built. And someone told 427 00:19:17,525 --> 00:19:18,605 me they never got a permit. 428 00:19:18,805 --> 00:19:20,605 I said, how did they build the whole house 429 00:19:20,745 --> 00:19:21,845 and never get a permit? 430 00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:24,445 That doesn't sound reasonable to me. 431 00:19:24,625 --> 00:19:29,255 So again, I don't know how, what the process is 432 00:19:29,395 --> 00:19:31,935 to make sure that the building department knows whether 433 00:19:31,935 --> 00:19:32,975 something has a permit, 434 00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:34,775 doesn't have a permit, or needs a permit. 435 00:19:36,405 --> 00:19:38,265 And the guy, the guy down the block from 436 00:19:38,265 --> 00:19:39,385 me renovated his house. 437 00:19:39,645 --> 00:19:42,505 He just put four steps on the, up to his front door. 438 00:19:43,105 --> 00:19:45,105 I personally know you need to have a railing. 439 00:19:45,285 --> 00:19:46,345 He doesn't have a railing. 440 00:19:46,345 --> 00:19:48,865 What am I supposed to be the one calling the 441 00:19:49,705 --> 00:19:50,665 building department and saying, 442 00:19:50,665 --> 00:19:51,865 how come he doesn't have a rail? 443 00:19:52,025 --> 00:19:53,705 I I don't do that. So, okay. 444 00:19:54,845 --> 00:19:56,465 That's, that's, that's your question. 445 00:19:56,585 --> 00:19:57,905 I don't know how that goes. Um, 446 00:19:58,005 --> 00:20:01,825 and the other comment I want to make was on 17 B, 447 00:20:02,525 --> 00:20:05,505 if we have more people walking on 17 B, we have 448 00:20:05,505 --> 00:20:08,505 to clear the shoulders because there's no way to walk. 449 00:20:08,795 --> 00:20:13,465 Right. On 17 b, when people are parking on 17 B 450 00:20:13,885 --> 00:20:15,105 and there's a lot of parking. 451 00:20:15,475 --> 00:20:18,545 Right. And I was told it's not legal. 452 00:20:18,815 --> 00:20:21,225 Well, that's not my job. 453 00:20:21,885 --> 00:20:25,425 So if we can't have the people, we're gonna have a ton 454 00:20:25,425 --> 00:20:26,545 of people walking there 455 00:20:27,485 --> 00:20:30,185 and there's no, they're gonna be forced into the street. 456 00:20:30,505 --> 00:20:32,425 I actually was driving home one day 457 00:20:32,565 --> 00:20:35,065 and everybody was parked on both sides of 17 B 458 00:20:35,065 --> 00:20:37,745 and that someone backed out another car 459 00:20:37,745 --> 00:20:38,905 came from the other direction. 460 00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:41,225 They almost hit me because that go around the car 461 00:20:41,225 --> 00:20:42,265 that was backing out. 462 00:20:42,845 --> 00:20:44,905 So, okay. Something gotta get, 463 00:20:44,915 --> 00:20:46,465 thank you. Thank you. Mary Ellen. 464 00:20:47,265 --> 00:20:48,765 Uh, comic Jonathan. 465 00:20:57,305 --> 00:21:01,855 I dunno, before I respond, uh, well, 466 00:21:04,275 --> 00:21:06,895 it would appear that everything I wanna talk about is 467 00:21:06,895 --> 00:21:07,855 something that Maryanne, 468 00:21:12,195 --> 00:21:15,775 uh, listen, what Mary Ellen is discussing is 469 00:21:15,935 --> 00:21:17,695 palpable and dangerous. 470 00:21:18,155 --> 00:21:19,935 And this town has to do better. 471 00:21:20,475 --> 00:21:23,495 The idea that she could call up and complain, 472 00:21:23,495 --> 00:21:26,215 or someone could compete money about our house being 473 00:21:26,215 --> 00:21:27,415 built illegally. 474 00:21:27,995 --> 00:21:32,135 And she's told that she has to fill out a form is outrageous 475 00:21:32,955 --> 00:21:34,135 and everybody knows it. 476 00:21:34,675 --> 00:21:37,295 We have got to be more, more proactive 477 00:21:37,595 --> 00:21:40,455 and enforce our zoning and enforce our code. 478 00:21:40,755 --> 00:21:43,895 And people should be afraid to put a back door in 479 00:21:44,035 --> 00:21:46,575 and isn't on the right engine for goodness sake. 480 00:21:46,735 --> 00:21:48,895 I mean, of course it's that hyperbolic, 481 00:21:48,955 --> 00:21:51,095 but I mean, this has been on here 30 years 482 00:21:51,115 --> 00:21:52,295 and this has been going on forever. 483 00:21:53,275 --> 00:21:55,615 It has to stop Supervisor Stern. 484 00:21:55,615 --> 00:21:56,855 You're terrific with the budget. 485 00:21:56,995 --> 00:22:00,095 You do all kinds of wonderful things. Make this your goal. 486 00:22:00,665 --> 00:22:02,855 Let's turn this down into a place 487 00:22:03,065 --> 00:22:05,135 where people are afraid to make mistakes. 488 00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:08,655 Let's turn it into a town where people are willing 489 00:22:08,675 --> 00:22:12,975 to follow the rules, follow the law with regard to building. 490 00:22:13,315 --> 00:22:15,055 So nobody has to make those kind 491 00:22:15,055 --> 00:22:16,855 of calls saying everyone's afraid. 492 00:22:16,975 --> 00:22:20,895 I, and this is not hyperbole. I heard it for decades. 493 00:22:21,515 --> 00:22:24,455 If I call on that guy, he's gonna burn my house down. 494 00:22:24,455 --> 00:22:26,135 Mm-Hmm. And I'm not being hyperbolic. 495 00:22:26,555 --> 00:22:29,095 We hear this all the time. This has to stop. 496 00:22:29,165 --> 00:22:30,495 This is the town of Ville. 497 00:22:31,165 --> 00:22:32,855 Look at the performing arts sector. 498 00:22:33,505 --> 00:22:38,055 We're about to build a new, uh, town board, uh, a town hall. 499 00:22:38,935 --> 00:22:41,375 I mean, I, I, I think I've said enough about that. 500 00:22:41,755 --> 00:22:44,845 Um, that really gets, okay. 501 00:22:44,865 --> 00:22:48,005 Anyway, um, I, I wanna address this idea about, 502 00:22:48,085 --> 00:22:50,805 I moratorium, I wanna not correct 503 00:22:50,985 --> 00:22:53,485 but clarify some things for Marya 504 00:22:53,485 --> 00:22:56,485 because she said, when we have this, um, planner, 505 00:22:56,705 --> 00:22:59,165 she decides where this is gonna go, where 506 00:22:59,165 --> 00:23:01,605 that's gonna marielle. 507 00:23:01,605 --> 00:23:03,765 The thing is, is that this is a community process. 508 00:23:04,585 --> 00:23:06,805 The comprehensive plan, by its very nature 509 00:23:07,185 --> 00:23:11,405 and the design of it, is that this isn't, this is a, uh, uh, 510 00:23:11,685 --> 00:23:13,365 a pla uh, an opportunity 511 00:23:13,365 --> 00:23:16,845 to have what's called vision sessions where this planner 512 00:23:17,145 --> 00:23:19,405 and a talent doing their job correctly. 513 00:23:19,775 --> 00:23:21,005 We'll have sessions 514 00:23:21,005 --> 00:23:23,245 where community members will come together, 515 00:23:23,625 --> 00:23:26,805 sit at various tables and talk about who do we wanna be 516 00:23:27,065 --> 00:23:30,365 and what do we wanna look like in 10, 20, 30, 50 years. 517 00:23:31,385 --> 00:23:33,165 One of those questions that might be asked is, 518 00:23:33,215 --> 00:23:35,565 where do we want, where do we wanna put dispensaries? 519 00:23:36,265 --> 00:23:37,845 Do we want dispensaries up 520 00:23:37,845 --> 00:23:41,245 and down 17 d Maybe we do, do we want them somewhere else? 521 00:23:41,485 --> 00:23:44,045 I don't know. But I know that one, 522 00:23:44,255 --> 00:23:46,285 maybe there's a place who, who knows. 523 00:23:46,285 --> 00:23:48,725 But the point is this is a really important thing 524 00:23:48,725 --> 00:23:49,845 in this comprehensive plan. 525 00:23:50,345 --> 00:23:53,405 And so, um, the other thing with regard 526 00:23:53,405 --> 00:23:54,885 to comprehensive plan, uh, 527 00:23:55,025 --> 00:23:58,205 and it worked for us last time, it wasn't easy to get, 528 00:23:58,225 --> 00:23:59,445 but we did have a moratorium. 529 00:23:59,985 --> 00:24:03,405 And a moratorium doesn't necessarily put an end to projects 530 00:24:04,435 --> 00:24:06,725 that are before the planning board during the pipeline, 531 00:24:07,265 --> 00:24:09,005 but the courts have ruled for a law. 532 00:24:09,345 --> 00:24:12,685 And it was ruled a long time ago that a, that a project 533 00:24:12,825 --> 00:24:15,165 for instance, could be before the planning board 534 00:24:15,865 --> 00:24:17,645 for several years in discussion. 535 00:24:18,145 --> 00:24:20,125 But if they don't have what they call, uh, 536 00:24:20,395 --> 00:24:21,965 significant instruction, 537 00:24:22,545 --> 00:24:25,045 if they don't have just the project's being considered, 538 00:24:25,045 --> 00:24:27,725 that doesn't mean that they're in the pipeline, so to speak. 539 00:24:28,035 --> 00:24:29,845 They have to have what's used, 540 00:24:29,845 --> 00:24:31,605 what's what's kind of in the trade. 541 00:24:31,635 --> 00:24:33,605 They say that of Mary Ellen. 542 00:24:33,605 --> 00:24:35,965 They say, you have to have bulldozers on the ground. 543 00:24:35,985 --> 00:24:39,125 You have to have made significant progress on the 544 00:24:39,125 --> 00:24:40,445 development of that land. 545 00:24:41,465 --> 00:24:44,485 And that came into a play that, you know, last night 546 00:24:44,485 --> 00:24:46,045 around when we had that moratorium. 547 00:24:46,275 --> 00:24:48,805 It's possible. And Dan, maybe you, you wouldn't mind, 548 00:24:48,805 --> 00:24:51,165 you would add, because you brought this up at another town, 549 00:24:51,165 --> 00:24:55,555 Morgan, you would, uh, explain what the last moratorium was 550 00:24:55,665 --> 00:24:57,755 with regard to five lots or more. 551 00:24:58,275 --> 00:25:00,475 I mean, there is a way to do this if it's the will 552 00:25:00,475 --> 00:25:02,915 of the town board and or the will of the people. 553 00:25:03,535 --> 00:25:05,595 And I would urge that we seriously consider this. 554 00:25:05,715 --> 00:25:08,275 I mean, I don't, I I, I don't think I've ever seen a time, 555 00:25:08,815 --> 00:25:10,395 uh, other than 2008, 556 00:25:11,065 --> 00:25:13,955 5, 6, 7 8 when Bethel Elizabeth being developed 557 00:25:13,955 --> 00:25:16,635 and everybody was speculating when there's been this many 558 00:25:16,635 --> 00:25:18,435 developments proposed. 559 00:25:18,505 --> 00:25:20,835 Certainly they're being proposed on a grander 560 00:25:21,015 --> 00:25:24,715 and larger scale, which is why I want to conclude by saying 561 00:25:25,225 --> 00:25:26,915 this is why I'm being very strong 562 00:25:26,915 --> 00:25:31,435 and advocating for water quality and watershed protection. 563 00:25:31,565 --> 00:25:33,395 Thank you for considering my remarks all night. 564 00:25:33,565 --> 00:25:35,555 Thank you for a wonderful discussion on the budget. 565 00:25:36,365 --> 00:25:38,675 Thank you. Thank you, Jonathan. Appreciate it. 566 00:25:40,135 --> 00:25:41,355 Um, comments, 567 00:25:47,045 --> 00:25:47,205 Samantha. 568 00:25:47,775 --> 00:25:48,845 Thank you. You're welcome. 569 00:25:49,695 --> 00:25:52,045 Thank you again. You're welcome. I'll make this break. 570 00:25:52,315 --> 00:25:56,765 Okay. How about we consider going forward 571 00:25:57,945 --> 00:25:59,765 the next plan 572 00:25:59,985 --> 00:26:02,445 or reconnect your budget, whatever it may be, 573 00:26:04,535 --> 00:26:09,375 enforcing a user fee, the tax exempt entities 574 00:26:09,485 --> 00:26:14,255 that are in the town of Bethel use water, sewer, 575 00:26:14,945 --> 00:26:16,775 roads and don't pay taxes. 576 00:26:17,715 --> 00:26:20,015 Is it fair? No. 577 00:26:21,405 --> 00:26:24,375 And there's a lot of them, whatever they are, 578 00:26:25,415 --> 00:26:26,665 including about the woods. 579 00:26:27,665 --> 00:26:31,525 So it would be nice to have a conversation about 580 00:26:32,405 --> 00:26:35,405 a user bait tacked onto every purchase 581 00:26:35,985 --> 00:26:39,205 or, I mean, this would be for a ticket sale 582 00:26:39,465 --> 00:26:41,445 for instance, about the woods. 583 00:26:41,465 --> 00:26:45,725 And I don't know how that works, a conversation, a proposal 584 00:26:46,025 --> 00:26:48,165 to them in general. 585 00:26:48,785 --> 00:26:51,045 But I know in other 586 00:26:51,595 --> 00:26:56,205 tourism areas across the country, for instance, you go 587 00:26:56,265 --> 00:27:01,085 and you ski somewhere, you're paying a user de towards 588 00:27:01,275 --> 00:27:02,605 that town's taxes. 589 00:27:03,585 --> 00:27:04,925 If you go into a restaurant, 590 00:27:04,925 --> 00:27:07,725 you're paying a user fee in this tourism place. 591 00:27:08,395 --> 00:27:11,945 It's just a thought, small nominal fee. 592 00:27:12,325 --> 00:27:16,585 It could be one, $2, whatever it is, tack onto X. 593 00:27:17,085 --> 00:27:22,035 But it's something we need to help ourselves here. 594 00:27:22,295 --> 00:27:26,955 And we can't hold the weight of the town taxes 595 00:27:27,655 --> 00:27:29,875 on all of us taxpayers. 596 00:27:30,105 --> 00:27:33,155 Well, everyone else who's not paying taxes don't pay their 597 00:27:33,155 --> 00:27:35,075 fair share the fire department. 598 00:27:35,915 --> 00:27:39,155 I mean, you name it. So I just like for that 599 00:27:39,155 --> 00:27:42,155 to be considered going forward. Great. 600 00:27:42,685 --> 00:27:44,435 Thank you Samantha. Thank you. 601 00:27:44,845 --> 00:27:46,315 Thank you. Uh, 602 00:27:47,115 --> 00:27:51,705 comments a Joyce? 603 00:27:51,855 --> 00:27:53,225 Very agree. Okay. That's fine. 604 00:27:59,815 --> 00:28:04,095 I just wanted to mention that I had requested 605 00:28:04,915 --> 00:28:08,125 that the lights be prepared in the parking lot 606 00:28:08,315 --> 00:28:09,605 with a safety issue. 607 00:28:10,115 --> 00:28:11,245 This is the third time. 608 00:28:11,935 --> 00:28:13,925 Could you please have them fixed? Thank you. 609 00:28:14,145 --> 00:28:16,725 You're welcome. Um, just so you know, Joyce, 610 00:28:16,975 --> 00:28:18,765 after the last town board meeting, we, 611 00:28:18,815 --> 00:28:20,005 those are school lights. 612 00:28:20,005 --> 00:28:21,645 They're responsible for fixing up. 613 00:28:22,145 --> 00:28:24,885 We put the request in and they said they would get to it. 614 00:28:25,245 --> 00:28:28,445 I reminded them again, we're doing the best we can, 615 00:28:28,505 --> 00:28:30,285 but they, it is up to the school to fix those. 616 00:28:31,465 --> 00:28:33,885 Yep. No, I agree. And they assured me they would 617 00:28:33,885 --> 00:28:35,005 be fixed within a week or so. 618 00:28:35,595 --> 00:28:36,605 Okay. And they're usually pretty good 619 00:28:36,605 --> 00:28:37,645 when they tell us things like that. 620 00:28:38,435 --> 00:28:41,045 Okay. You work that, uh, Jonathan, sorry 621 00:28:41,045 --> 00:28:42,045 Guys. Uh, 622 00:28:42,045 --> 00:28:46,465 this Saturday, 3:30 PM at the parking lot 623 00:28:46,685 --> 00:28:50,785 of the, uh, mountain Lake Beach in Smallwood is the, uh, 624 00:28:50,925 --> 00:28:54,865 fourth annual Halloween, uh, children walk around the lake, 625 00:28:54,915 --> 00:28:55,985 their family, children. 626 00:28:56,645 --> 00:29:00,425 We have everyone shows up 32 tree tables 627 00:29:01,255 --> 00:29:03,145 with a fire truck leading the walk. 628 00:29:03,925 --> 00:29:05,425 Um, please come on out. 629 00:29:06,205 --> 00:29:08,745 All family members and children in Beville are invited. 630 00:29:09,565 --> 00:29:11,105 Um, we can tell you 631 00:29:11,105 --> 00:29:13,545 that there's gonna be some people scaring the children. 632 00:29:14,495 --> 00:29:17,185 There's gonna be some people scaring the parents probably. 633 00:29:18,005 --> 00:29:20,545 And we invite everybody to come. Police participate. 634 00:29:20,545 --> 00:29:22,465 It's a great event. Thank you. 635 00:29:23,245 --> 00:29:25,825 And thank 636 00:29:25,825 --> 00:29:28,265 you to the fire police. 637 00:29:28,835 --> 00:29:31,865 Thank you. Advance to the constable. 638 00:29:32,135 --> 00:29:34,305 It's a real town effort. Uh, I can't wait. 639 00:29:35,085 --> 00:29:36,465 Uh, hope everybody comes. Cool. 640 00:29:37,475 --> 00:29:42,205 Thank you. Um, announcement please. I'm sorry. 641 00:29:42,205 --> 00:29:43,965 With there comment. Did I miss something? 642 00:29:44,385 --> 00:29:46,765 Uh, uh, briefly check their planning 643 00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:47,925 and zoning board agendas 644 00:29:47,925 --> 00:29:50,805 and legal notices online for meetings and cancellations. 645 00:29:50,935 --> 00:29:53,525 There is a planning board this Monday, I think the sixth. 646 00:29:53,585 --> 00:29:55,485 Yes. Sorry, the sixth. Right? Not this Monday. 647 00:29:55,485 --> 00:29:58,365 Next Monday the sixth Pacific. Jonathan took care of that. 648 00:29:59,465 --> 00:30:02,325 Uh, suicide awareness Walker is 11 o'clock at the 649 00:30:02,325 --> 00:30:03,365 Bethel Senior Center. 650 00:30:03,625 --> 00:30:05,405 We haven't done it in three or four years. 651 00:30:05,785 --> 00:30:07,085 We stopped doing it for Covid, 652 00:30:07,745 --> 00:30:09,405 but we would encourage everybody to come. 653 00:30:09,415 --> 00:30:11,325 Let's have a good showing to. Really good event. 654 00:30:11,755 --> 00:30:12,765 Very important. Sunday, 655 00:30:13,345 --> 00:30:15,845 11 o'clock Senior center election day. 656 00:30:16,305 --> 00:30:17,445 All departments are closed. 657 00:30:17,585 --> 00:30:19,205 The polls are open from six in the 658 00:30:19,205 --> 00:30:20,245 morning till nine at night. 659 00:30:21,295 --> 00:30:23,945 Town departments are closed on the 10th for Veteran's Day 660 00:30:24,365 --> 00:30:26,345 and Veteran's Day Services. 661 00:30:26,405 --> 00:30:27,945 11. 11 at 11. 662 00:30:29,165 --> 00:30:32,265 And for other town board we discussed is 1115, 663 00:30:32,805 --> 00:30:34,705 the one meeting for November at seven 30. 664 00:30:35,685 --> 00:30:36,985 Um, thank you all for coming. 665 00:30:37,485 --> 00:30:40,185 Absent any other comments, I'll entertain a motion 666 00:30:40,205 --> 00:30:43,105 to adjourn motion by Vicky and Bernie. 667 00:30:43,205 --> 00:30:45,145 All in favor. You have a great weekend 668 00:30:45,205 --> 00:30:46,745 and nice h uh, Halloween weekend.