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participation of all members of

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our community and

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encourage open,

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positive

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discussion, even

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when opinions

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differ.

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Please treat comments with

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respect

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focus on the

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issue rather than

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pointing fingers so

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we can work

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together productively and

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positively. And we

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started our

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meeting at 4:00 PM because

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we had conducted road

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checks on Banda,

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Mirsa, and Sugar Hill and

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heard from all the

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stakeholders.

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And now we are going to

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resume the meeting and

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continue the hearing

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on the roads, if

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necessary. Good.

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So, as you said,

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we visited Bundy,

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Mears, and Sugar Hill.

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Sugar Hill–this is just

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a clarification, it's a state. Um

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, it's just something that

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happened. It was

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discontinued many

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years ago. Then,

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during the construction of the

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Ancient Road,

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part of it was somehow

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reopened. So, these are

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discontinued small

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areas, so we're

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just repairing it

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because the state wanted us to

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do it. So, we're

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just making these

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adjustments. So, that's

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all there is. Um, Bundy, we

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talked to one of the

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owners of the sole

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proprietorship that lives

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on Bundy. And he, um, and

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they support us

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canceling the

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road. And, uh, there's some

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information about it, it's

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0.08 miles of

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third class road. And

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they have an annual, uh,

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annual

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highway construction grant that

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we get paid to take care

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of Bundy, which

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is

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$146.40. Our annual

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plowing and sanding costs

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are about

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$912. And to

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bring it up to

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standard, add

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some gravel and

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other things, it will be

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about $3,800.

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So, um, of course,

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the gentleman who lives

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on Bundy was in favor of the

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board of elections

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canceling

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the construction of Bundy. Uh

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, then we went to

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Mears and met a

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lovely couple who

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live on Mears, and it's 0.13

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miles of sixth-

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class road, and the annual

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state highway construction grant

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we get to

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maintain it is

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$237.90. And our

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annual

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plowing and

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sanding costs are

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$912.33. And again

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, to bring

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it up to full

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Class VI road standard, it would take

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about 2279. Erm,

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so Mr, uh, that nice

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couple we met

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on the Meersee, uh, they don't mind us

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stopping it, but they

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want us to

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keep the

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culvert

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down. There is another

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culvert

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on the road leading up

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Mears.

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Remember when there

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was a wooden road there

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? There is a culvert there

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. They

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will be there soon. Okay, this is where

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their

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easement runs

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to the camp. And uh, yeah,

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but they're asking us to

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support the one

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down the road. So,

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Sugar Hill

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was obviously just

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necessary, so the state

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is asking us to just

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stop building it again

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on this

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small lot.

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the turn, where it

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seems there's a sign just past

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So it's more of a

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household issue

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something random. So

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these are the things that

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obviously the Election

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Commission has, you know,

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within 60 days to

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put in

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writing, but

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I don't know if

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you want to just move

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on and deal with

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it tonight.

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else you have left to

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think about. Then I can

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issue an order.

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I think we can

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deal with this

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now.

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Yes. The

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Sugar Hill lines are

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light. This is the Oops that

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happened many years

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ago. Um, there's not even

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any question about

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that. Bundy...Bundi

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was...uh...

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Andrew...

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Andrew...Uh, no

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questions asked here. They...

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agree with that. Um,

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it's not a very good

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turn at the end of this

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road

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anyway, as far as I

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know, that would be

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obvious.

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n't lose it.

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think about this. And

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Mears Road, uh...yeah,

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anytime we don't have to

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park

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that big truck

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in that narrow

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driveway.

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Of course, it's not fun.

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photo that AJ sent of

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one of the trucks

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pulling out of the lot, and that

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was, um, on the Bundy

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last year, and we

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had to spend

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3,500 bucks on

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cable and Frontier

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to get them out. Hmm,

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Bundy and Mears

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Bundy. Oh.

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Yeah, but either they...

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Oh, they're all

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trucks with... So,

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um...

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And all the property owners are with

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us too.

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Yes, as long as you

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keep the

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culvert

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at the base... Do

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you have any questions? So, do

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you need a

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petition?

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We get...Yes,

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you need

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a petition to

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reclassify 0.08

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miles of Bundy, 0.13 miles of

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Mears, and 0.40 miles of Sugar

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Hill from Class III to...No,

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from...Never mind. Not from

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class III. From class III to...

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termination. Sorry.

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So it is proposed.

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Good. Everyone who is in favor?

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Good.

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Against? One more

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second.

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Sorry. Good.

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Oh, that makes sense.

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Yes. Good. Good. And I'll

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work on the letter and

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all that.

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Good. And now, uh,

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to approve the

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agenda, if there are any

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corrections or, uh,

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anything else?

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I don't have any, uh

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, additions.

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I propose to adopt

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the protocol.

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You know, I could

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add...No, I'm kidding.

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Yes. I think that's

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normal.

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Motion

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to approve the

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agenda. All in favor?

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Good. So now we

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move on to our

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meeting with Lee and

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Greg. Uh, Greg Hughes'

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fundraising task force

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has re-approved phases one and

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two as

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outlined in his

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presentation in the

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document package. The second

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phase will begin

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only after the town

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meeting. He also

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reaches out to the

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Vermont Community Foundation. He would like to

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get

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approval for the

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commitment form. This is not

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legally

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binding, but is a

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tool

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since the pool received

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the most votes. This is

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the project they

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plan to implement

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after the

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election board

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agrees. In

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the future, Greg

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plans to hold

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a presentation on

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pool options to

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the public. Greg is

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also willing to have the

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task force take on

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the task of finding in-

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kind work

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in the form of

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grants. He believes

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that construction of

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the pool will

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not begin until the summer of 2028

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.

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Do you have anyone else

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you're waiting for

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since we

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were asked to start 30

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minutes early? Okay,

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and I think that was...

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I tried to

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summarize our

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conversation so that everyone

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could...

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That's good. Hmm, I'm not

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sure how you

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want me to

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continue. I

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assume you've

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read our report,

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but if not, we could

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...I could go

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over and

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consider each of the

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five counts of the

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indictment. Or

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if not, we can

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accept it, and we

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can ask...I would be

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happy to hear

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questions and

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answers, if you would

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allow. I have

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no questions. I

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read this. I was

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very satisfied.

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Thank you very much for your

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work.

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Thanks, Dave.

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Yes. And I read it, and

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it's very detailed, and you

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outlined everything we

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need here. So, I'm

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pleased with everything

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you all presented.

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Thank you very much for your

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hard work,

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Greg.

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Thank you. Any other

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questions, problems,

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solutions, answers?

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Or...um...Um...so you

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saw...And it's similar to

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what was in our

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last one...

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actually, it was

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similar too. So we did

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a little more

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breakdown, but the contributions

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and other things are the same.

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One of the things

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we talked about, and I

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flagged it during

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our conversation over

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coffee. Congratulations on...Um...

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you know, the

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municipal

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capital fund contribution of

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about $100,000

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instead of $200, which would be,

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as you mentioned, a grant...

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what... what

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we have now plus...

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Baron 25,000. And other than

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that, it's all the same as what

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was

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filed on September 14th.

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They had 2 weeks to

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read it.

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So, and obviously, as

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you

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progress, you will

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need an electoral

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council. Did

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you need the Board of Elections

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to

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commit to

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this

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tonight, or is this something

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you can do

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later?

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Um...no, I think at

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this point we

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can just

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say it was

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distributed, I think.

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If you want to make a

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commitment, it would be

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right

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if it was with a protocol, I would

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say.

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And, um,

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this is something in...I'm currently

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applying to the Vermont

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Community Foundation. She

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said 10 or 15

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minutes to fill out

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the application, not exactly. Um,

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yes. Um, you

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get into it,

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they...they want a

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lot of information.

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But all of this is very similar

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to what we did. And

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one of the things would be that

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any money

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was approved. So

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probably if you

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had a request for

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that, I could

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present it in the

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applications.

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And, um, I mean,

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like you said, they

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should get what

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you got, right

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now. So I don't know

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if you guys are ready to

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do it at this

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point - allocate this

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money. A

420
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hundred thousand?

421
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Hmm. Yes.

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Um, just to

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avoid any

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confusion on my part

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, won't this affect the

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ability to

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use them? What is

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this? In

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kind you can't

430
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take, you can't

431
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take now until you

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actually

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sign.

434
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some natural

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help now. This

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is called pre- or

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post-award. Um

438
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, pre-award–this is

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money similar to what

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we spend on

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grant writing, with

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two rivers that

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will meet

444
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the requirements. The money we

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use to,

446
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um, conduct

447
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research will be

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eligible.

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So, even if it

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came from the

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Byrne Foundation to us for that hundred

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thousand, we will take it

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and make it part of

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our

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co-financing.

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We just need

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to be careful about

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when we take this

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money and how we

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use it.

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If you are going to

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do a pre-

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award distribution, it should

464
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be in your budget

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. But it's in our

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budget. And it has to be

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approved by the state.

468
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Good.

469
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You must

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tread carefully,

471
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especially with pre-

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awarding. We don't

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want someone to

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just come and

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do us a big

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favor with their

477
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excavator and

478
00:11:12,046 --> 00:11:12,847
dig a hole. This

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would cause

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problems.

481
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Good.

482
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I'm fine.

483
00:11:20,965 --> 00:11:22,142
So you want you to take

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this step of

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allocating this

486
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funding for...

487
00:11:26,970 --> 00:11:29,037
Oh yeah. I would, yes, I would

488
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let someone

489
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else.

490
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So you want to

491
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allocate existing

492
00:11:35,650 --> 00:11:36,639
money or the

493
00:11:36,639 --> 00:11:38,084
$100,000 that goes

494
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into the existing

495
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pool overhaul, which includes

496
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$25,000 for the

497
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shed package. That's all.

498
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Good.

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Second.

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00:11:47,852 --> 00:11:51,004
So it is proposed.

501
00:11:51,004 --> 00:11:52,908
Okay, everyone, who's in favor?

502
00:11:52,908 --> 00:11:54,004
Yes.

503
00:11:54,004 --> 00:11:55,050
Against?

504
00:11:55,050 --> 00:12:00,518
And MGM. And did you, um, have

505
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any questions about the

506
00:12:01,977 --> 00:12:05,081
form of commitment?

507
00:12:05,081 --> 00:12:06,080
It was well

508
00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,409
written. I just

509
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said.

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I was impressed that

511
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she was very

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detailed. It's all

513
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like: Yes, I have another

514
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one for your

515
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approval, I'm just

516
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working on it. This will be

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if we

518
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receive the money, the

519
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receipt. Let

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me send them

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00:12:26,193 --> 00:12:26,967
back, I will say that it

522
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will be used for

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public purposes and

524
00:12:28,536 --> 00:12:29,086
you have not received

525
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any proper

526
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use of the services

527
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and we are not providing you with

528
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legal

529
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advice.

530
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Yes, that's good. Perfectly.

531
00:12:35,745 --> 00:12:36,785
Thank you very much everyone.

532
00:12:36,785 --> 00:12:39,197
Thank you. Does

533
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anyone here have a

534
00:12:39,992 --> 00:12:43,907
question for Greg?

535
00:12:43,907 --> 00:12:44,730
No.

536
00:12:44,730 --> 00:12:45,312
Good. David

537
00:12:45,312 --> 00:12:46,961
, wait. We don't

538
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...Are you raising your hand,

539
00:12:48,384 --> 00:12:53,018
Anna? It looks like he's out

540
00:12:53,018 --> 00:12:53,157
.

541
00:12:53,157 --> 00:12:54,400
This is mine...No, mine...I'm

542
00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,721
just holding it in my

543
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mouth. I just want to

544
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congratulate Greg for his

545
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excellent efforts.

546
00:12:59,798 --> 00:13:01,659
Oh, okay. Great

547
00:13:01,659 --> 00:13:03,241
effort. Thank you

548
00:13:03,241 --> 00:13:05,011
for your wonderful efforts.

549
00:13:05,011 --> 00:13:06,044
Everything is fine.

550
00:13:06,044 --> 00:13:06,913
Yes. I just

551
00:13:06,913 --> 00:13:07,815
thought he

552
00:13:07,815 --> 00:13:08,926
raised his hand, so I

553
00:13:08,926 --> 00:13:09,808
wasn't sure.

554
00:13:09,808 --> 00:13:11,246
It's on my face

555
00:13:11,246 --> 00:13:11,383
.

556
00:13:11,383 --> 00:13:12,515
Well, thank you so much

557
00:13:12,515 --> 00:13:13,556
, Greg, for all

558
00:13:13,556 --> 00:13:14,536
your hard

559
00:13:14,536 --> 00:13:15,699
work and to the committee for

560
00:13:15,699 --> 00:13:16,893
all their hard

561
00:13:16,893 --> 00:13:17,903
work on everything

562
00:13:17,903 --> 00:13:18,883
they do to

563
00:13:18,883 --> 00:13:19,863
take care of this and get it

564
00:13:19,863 --> 00:13:20,858
started.

565
00:13:20,858 --> 00:13:26,230
We have to...Yes.

566
00:13:26,230 --> 00:13:27,064
Okay, now

567
00:13:27,064 --> 00:13:28,315
the meeting is open for

568
00:13:28,315 --> 00:13:28,989
public

569
00:13:28,989 --> 00:13:30,176
discussion of anything

570
00:13:30,176 --> 00:13:31,138
that is not on the

571
00:13:31,138 --> 00:13:32,101
agenda tonight

572
00:13:32,101 --> 00:13:34,757
.

573
00:13:34,757 --> 00:13:35,844
I would like to start

574
00:13:35,844 --> 00:13:36,897
online because I

575
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think, and I

576
00:13:37,883 --> 00:13:39,106
apologize, that David

577
00:13:39,106 --> 00:13:40,432
Alexander might be

578
00:13:40,432 --> 00:13:41,655
here to talk

579
00:13:41,655 --> 00:13:42,742
about the concerns

580
00:13:42,742 --> 00:13:43,796
about the flags in the

581
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cemetery. I'm not

582
00:13:46,342 --> 00:13:47,358
sure if I have the

583
00:13:47,358 --> 00:13:48,412
right person.

584
00:13:48,412 --> 00:13:49,444
Then I

585
00:13:49,444 --> 00:13:50,398
have a message on my desk to

586
00:13:50,398 --> 00:13:51,431
call someone back,

587
00:13:51,431 --> 00:13:52,464
and I think it might

588
00:13:52,464 --> 00:13:52,935
be you.

589
00:13:52,935 --> 00:13:53,323
Yes.

590
00:13:53,323 --> 00:13:54,373
Okay, okay.

591
00:13:54,373 --> 00:13:55,912
Yes, that was me. I...

592
00:13:55,912 --> 00:13:58,348
Oh, okay. Good. Good.

593
00:13:58,348 --> 00:13:59,533
A couple of times. I

594
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understand you are Teresa

595
00:14:00,733 --> 00:14:01,221
Kirby.

596
00:14:01,221 --> 00:14:02,667
Yes. Yes, sir.

597
00:14:02,667 --> 00:14:03,803
Yes, I called

598
00:14:03,803 --> 00:14:04,705
a few times and

599
00:14:04,705 --> 00:14:05,641
realized you were

600
00:14:05,641 --> 00:14:08,642
quite busy. I

601
00:14:08,642 --> 00:14:09,938
reviewed the

602
00:14:09,938 --> 00:14:11,202
meeting minutes and did not see

603
00:14:11,202 --> 00:14:12,498
where in the meetings

604
00:14:12,498 --> 00:14:13,795
my letter,

605
00:14:13,795 --> 00:14:14,896
which I sent to the

606
00:14:14,896 --> 00:14:18,076
election commission, was addressed.

607
00:14:18,076 --> 00:14:19,424
Yes, I sent it to

608
00:14:19,424 --> 00:14:20,591
Joan Marshall because

609
00:14:20,591 --> 00:14:24,029
she's the one who flies the

610
00:14:24,029 --> 00:14:25,058
flags. So I

611
00:14:25,058 --> 00:14:26,357
figured if you

612
00:14:26,357 --> 00:14:27,450
talked to her and

613
00:14:27,450 --> 00:14:28,476
she said you

614
00:14:28,476 --> 00:14:29,603
talked, then you

615
00:14:29,603 --> 00:14:30,984
guys talked. And

616
00:14:30,984 --> 00:14:31,968
I can add this to the

617
00:14:31,968 --> 00:14:32,924
next package of

618
00:14:32,924 --> 00:14:33,993
documents from the election

619
00:14:33,993 --> 00:14:35,068
commission. And I haven't had a

620
00:14:35,068 --> 00:14:35,715
chance

621
00:14:35,715 --> 00:14:36,946
to call you back, but

622
00:14:36,946 --> 00:14:38,085
I know you had

623
00:14:38,085 --> 00:14:39,131
concerns about

624
00:14:39,131 --> 00:14:40,054
the flags that you

625
00:14:40,054 --> 00:14:41,039
purchased but that

626
00:14:41,039 --> 00:14:41,850
were taken down.

627
00:14:41,850 --> 00:14:43,694
Yes. Yes, I spoke

628
00:14:43,694 --> 00:14:46,126
to Joan. She

629
00:14:46,126 --> 00:14:47,575
called me, and, uh

630
00:14:47,575 --> 00:14:48,579
, I just want

631
00:14:48,579 --> 00:14:49,693
to explain a few

632
00:14:49,693 --> 00:14:51,105
things, make sure

633
00:14:51,105 --> 00:14:52,443
I understand everything that

634
00:14:52,443 --> 00:14:56,744
happened here.

635
00:14:56,744 --> 00:14:57,915
As I understood it

636
00:14:57,915 --> 00:14:58,358
before, the

637
00:14:58,358 --> 00:14:59,625
American Legion

638
00:14:59,625 --> 00:15:00,702
always placed

639
00:15:00,702 --> 00:15:01,335
flags in

640
00:15:01,335 --> 00:15:02,506
cemeteries, and I was under

641
00:15:02,506 --> 00:15:03,773
the impression that

642
00:15:03,773 --> 00:15:05,008
this is no longer the case, and the city of

643
00:15:05,008 --> 00:15:06,053
Bethel is now purchasing

644
00:15:06,053 --> 00:15:06,750
flags for

645
00:15:06,750 --> 00:15:07,510
veterans in

646
00:15:07,510 --> 00:15:10,534
cemeteries. Is that

647
00:15:10,534 --> 00:15:11,372
correct?

648
00:15:11,372 --> 00:15:14,867
Yes, that's right, sir.

649
00:15:14,867 --> 00:15:16,952
Good. And as I

650
00:15:16,952 --> 00:15:18,399
said in my letter,

651
00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:19,846
I mean my

652
00:15:19,846 --> 00:15:20,774
father, Pearly

653
00:15:20,774 --> 00:15:21,590
Alexander, is

654
00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:23,712
buried there. He is a

655
00:15:23,712 --> 00:15:24,704
veteran of

656
00:15:24,704 --> 00:15:26,524
World War II. He

657
00:15:26,524 --> 00:15:27,164
fought on

658
00:15:27,164 --> 00:15:28,410
Guadalcanal, and, as

659
00:15:28,410 --> 00:15:29,691
he said, he went

660
00:15:29,691 --> 00:15:32,740
through hell there. And my

661
00:15:32,740 --> 00:15:33,573
great-grandfather, Henry

662
00:15:33,573 --> 00:15:34,739
Davenport, a

663
00:15:34,739 --> 00:15:36,039
Civil War veteran, is

664
00:15:36,039 --> 00:15:42,554
also buried there.

665
00:15:42,554 --> 00:15:43,887
He was a drummer

666
00:15:43,887 --> 00:15:45,220
and then he went back to the

667
00:15:45,220 --> 00:15:46,453
infantry, and because the

668
00:15:46,453 --> 00:15:47,653
Legion in the past,

669
00:15:47,653 --> 00:15:48,919
for the last 5-6

670
00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:49,986
years I think, there

671
00:15:49,986 --> 00:15:51,119
wasn't any money or there

672
00:15:51,119 --> 00:15:52,152
wasn't any time, so I

673
00:15:52,152 --> 00:15:53,085
bought my

674
00:15:53,085 --> 00:15:54,119
own flags every year and

675
00:15:54,119 --> 00:15:55,385
came around

676
00:15:55,385 --> 00:15:56,485
Remembrance Day and

677
00:15:56,485 --> 00:15:57,818
put up flags

678
00:15:57,818 --> 00:15:58,785
on my

679
00:15:58,785 --> 00:16:05,071
father's and great-grandfather's graves. And

680
00:16:05,071 --> 00:16:05,944
this year, in

681
00:16:05,944 --> 00:16:07,019
early May, I

682
00:16:07,019 --> 00:16:08,227
went up and saw

683
00:16:08,227 --> 00:16:09,436
that

684
00:16:09,436 --> 00:16:10,712
new flags were hanging on their graves,

685
00:16:10,712 --> 00:16:11,820
and I was very

686
00:16:11,820 --> 00:16:14,226
happy about that. But then, when

687
00:16:14,226 --> 00:16:15,429
I went back about a

688
00:16:15,429 --> 00:16:16,479
month later, all the

689
00:16:16,479 --> 00:16:17,157
flags in the

690
00:16:17,157 --> 00:16:18,361
cemetery were gone

691
00:16:18,361 --> 00:16:19,565
, and that confused me

692
00:16:19,565 --> 00:16:24,098
. I am also a

693
00:16:24,098 --> 00:16:25,468
Vietnam War veteran, and I

694
00:16:25,468 --> 00:16:26,727
believe that flags

695
00:16:26,727 --> 00:16:27,801
should be on

696
00:16:27,801 --> 00:16:29,208
veterans' graves 365

697
00:16:29,208 --> 00:16:30,282
days a year to

698
00:16:30,282 --> 00:16:31,689
honor veterans

699
00:16:31,689 --> 00:16:32,985
and the sacrifices they

700
00:16:32,985 --> 00:16:38,404
made. And, as I

701
00:16:38,404 --> 00:16:39,541
said, for the

702
00:16:39,541 --> 00:16:40,913
last 5-6 years I have

703
00:16:40,913 --> 00:16:42,481
been installing flags at my

704
00:16:42,481 --> 00:16:46,792
own expense. And

705
00:16:46,792 --> 00:16:48,041
I'm just curious

706
00:16:48,041 --> 00:16:49,291
what...I got

707
00:16:49,291 --> 00:16:50,541
the impression from Joan

708
00:16:50,541 --> 00:16:51,895
that perhaps she and her

709
00:16:51,895 --> 00:16:53,006
husband decided to

710
00:16:53,006 --> 00:16:54,186
take down the flags to

711
00:16:54,186 --> 00:16:55,575
keep them for another year,

712
00:16:55,575 --> 00:16:56,859
which obviously I

713
00:16:56,859 --> 00:17:03,175
disagree with. I told

714
00:17:03,175 --> 00:17:09,915
Joan that if there

715
00:17:09,915 --> 00:17:11,151
was a budget item to

716
00:17:11,151 --> 00:17:12,262
purchase flags

717
00:17:12,262 --> 00:17:13,220
for veterans in

718
00:17:13,220 --> 00:17:14,085
cemeteries, then

719
00:17:14,085 --> 00:17:15,042
perhaps the

720
00:17:15,042 --> 00:17:16,277
city taxpayers would be

721
00:17:16,277 --> 00:17:23,194
willing to do it.

722
00:17:23,194 --> 00:17:24,574
Also, uh, Joanna

723
00:17:24,574 --> 00:17:25,914
reminded me that I

724
00:17:25,914 --> 00:17:27,133
was the only one who

725
00:17:27,133 --> 00:17:28,554
complained, but, uh,

726
00:17:28,554 --> 00:17:29,894
one of the phone

727
00:17:29,894 --> 00:17:31,032
calls I

728
00:17:31,032 --> 00:17:32,290
made to the

729
00:17:32,290 --> 00:17:33,834
city clerk's office and, uh

730
00:17:33,834 --> 00:17:35,418
, I spoke to, uh,

731
00:17:35,418 --> 00:17:36,920
I think it was, uh,

732
00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,549
Pam? This is the one who

733
00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:42,704
said "Yes." And she

734
00:17:42,704 --> 00:17:43,975
said I wasn't the

735
00:17:43,975 --> 00:17:45,179
only one, she was

736
00:17:45,179 --> 00:17:46,250
approached on the street by

737
00:17:46,250 --> 00:17:47,387
other residents who

738
00:17:47,387 --> 00:17:48,056
were also

739
00:17:48,056 --> 00:17:48,758
concerned about

740
00:17:48,758 --> 00:17:50,063
the lack of flags

741
00:17:50,063 --> 00:17:53,003
. Uh, I just... I'm

742
00:17:53,003 --> 00:17:54,868
sorry. Let's...

743
00:17:54,868 --> 00:17:55,950
try a few

744
00:17:55,950 --> 00:17:57,006
different ways.

745
00:17:57,006 --> 00:17:57,894
We once

746
00:17:57,894 --> 00:17:59,111
exhibited them for a whole

747
00:17:59,111 --> 00:18:00,356
year. Some people

748
00:18:00,356 --> 00:18:03,214
considered it disrespectful.

749
00:18:03,214 --> 00:18:04,430
Then one time we

750
00:18:04,430 --> 00:18:05,231
took them down in

751
00:18:05,231 --> 00:18:06,415
November after

752
00:18:06,415 --> 00:18:07,568
Veterans Day so they would

753
00:18:07,568 --> 00:18:08,752
n't be in the snow all

754
00:18:08,752 --> 00:18:09,521
winter and

755
00:18:09,521 --> 00:18:10,449
put them back up in

756
00:18:10,449 --> 00:18:13,052
May. And so we

757
00:18:13,052 --> 00:18:14,428
tried it. Then

758
00:18:14,428 --> 00:18:15,654
we also removed them

759
00:18:15,654 --> 00:18:16,944
in October because you never

760
00:18:16,944 --> 00:18:18,169
know how much snow

761
00:18:18,169 --> 00:18:19,515
you're going to walk in. So it's

762
00:18:19,515 --> 00:18:20,716
really interesting because

763
00:18:20,716 --> 00:18:24,291
any veteran, and

764
00:18:24,291 --> 00:18:25,707
Joanna and her husband

765
00:18:25,707 --> 00:18:27,017
and their son served,

766
00:18:27,017 --> 00:18:28,115
even veterans

767
00:18:28,115 --> 00:18:29,532
seem to have a different

768
00:18:29,532 --> 00:18:31,345
perspective on it. And I

769
00:18:31,345 --> 00:18:32,647
always hesitate because I have

770
00:18:32,647 --> 00:18:35,800
n't served myself. And it's hard to

771
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,723
know what's

772
00:18:38,723 --> 00:18:39,785
best, because even,

773
00:18:39,785 --> 00:18:40,875
you know, even some

774
00:18:40,875 --> 00:18:42,024
veterans have different

775
00:18:42,024 --> 00:18:43,172
opinions on whether

776
00:18:43,172 --> 00:18:44,177
they should

777
00:18:44,177 --> 00:18:45,239
hang out in the snow all year round

778
00:18:45,239 --> 00:18:46,651
or take them off. Hmm, so of course it's

779
00:18:46,651 --> 00:18:48,052
nice

780
00:18:48,052 --> 00:18:49,708
to hear your opinion that 365

781
00:18:49,708 --> 00:18:50,812
days a year, and

782
00:18:50,812 --> 00:18:53,530
maybe that's something the

783
00:18:53,573 --> 00:18:55,147
election commission should think about. And

784
00:18:55,147 --> 00:18:56,081
we have a budget for

785
00:18:56,081 --> 00:18:57,116
flags, and, um, we

786
00:18:57,116 --> 00:18:58,117
started buying

787
00:18:58,117 --> 00:18:59,085
better ones so that they,

788
00:18:59,085 --> 00:19:00,253
you know, break, and

789
00:19:00,253 --> 00:19:01,221
then

790
00:19:01,221 --> 00:19:02,356
we use them in the summer on

791
00:19:02,356 --> 00:19:03,491
lawn mowers and

792
00:19:03,491 --> 00:19:04,785
other places. So we

793
00:19:04,785 --> 00:19:05,474
tried

794
00:19:05,474 --> 00:19:06,589
investing a little

795
00:19:06,589 --> 00:19:07,540
more money in

796
00:19:07,540 --> 00:19:08,920
higher quality flags.

797
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,365
So, hmm, maybe that's something the

798
00:19:10,365 --> 00:19:11,515
election

799
00:19:11,515 --> 00:19:12,812
commission really needs to

800
00:19:12,812 --> 00:19:14,177
think about. Do

801
00:19:14,177 --> 00:19:15,309
you know what other

802
00:19:15,309 --> 00:19:16,440
cemeteries in your

803
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,740
area are doing? Do

804
00:19:17,740 --> 00:19:18,958
they leave them there all year round?

805
00:19:18,958 --> 00:19:22,217
I think so.

806
00:19:22,217 --> 00:19:23,647
You know, I'm a

807
00:19:23,647 --> 00:19:25,756
Randolph native, and, um, I

808
00:19:25,793 --> 00:19:27,261
visit the East

809
00:19:27,261 --> 00:19:30,962
Randolph Cemetery quite often.

810
00:19:30,962 --> 00:19:32,504
My wife is buried there,

811
00:19:32,504 --> 00:19:33,507
and, um, the flags

812
00:19:33,507 --> 00:19:34,973
seem to hang there

813
00:19:34,973 --> 00:19:38,056
all year round. I know

814
00:19:38,056 --> 00:19:39,213
I've

815
00:19:39,213 --> 00:19:39,952
been to

816
00:19:39,952 --> 00:19:41,108
Randolph

817
00:19:41,108 --> 00:19:42,233
-East Randolph Cemetery a few times this summer and all the

818
00:19:42,233 --> 00:19:43,004
flags are still

819
00:19:43,004 --> 00:19:43,711
flying over the

820
00:19:43,711 --> 00:19:46,283
veterans.

821
00:19:46,283 --> 00:19:47,569
Well, sure, can

822
00:19:47,569 --> 00:19:48,618
I call around or

823
00:19:48,618 --> 00:19:49,870
have one of

824
00:19:49,870 --> 00:19:51,224
my staff

825
00:19:51,224 --> 00:19:52,036
call around and

826
00:19:52,036 --> 00:19:53,390
find out what people are doing

827
00:19:53,390 --> 00:19:54,371
in the neighboring

828
00:19:54,371 --> 00:19:55,657
towns and try to

829
00:19:55,657 --> 00:19:56,909
make sure that we're,

830
00:19:56,909 --> 00:19:57,992
you know, sensitive to

831
00:19:57,992 --> 00:20:01,161
everyone's feelings.

832
00:20:01,161 --> 00:20:02,490
Yes, because, as I said

833
00:20:02,490 --> 00:20:03,717
, for the last

834
00:20:03,717 --> 00:20:05,012
five or six years,

835
00:20:05,012 --> 00:20:06,034
I mean, I would

836
00:20:06,034 --> 00:20:07,364
come in May, and

837
00:20:07,364 --> 00:20:08,352
my

838
00:20:08,352 --> 00:20:09,716
father's and my great-grandfather's graves would still have the

839
00:20:09,716 --> 00:20:10,704
old

840
00:20:10,704 --> 00:20:11,829
flag from last

841
00:20:11,829 --> 00:20:13,192
year hanging, and I would replace it

842
00:20:13,192 --> 00:20:14,521
with a new flag that

843
00:20:14,521 --> 00:20:17,504
I bought. Uh, I mean

844
00:20:17,504 --> 00:20:18,637
, they used to be

845
00:20:18,637 --> 00:20:19,810
left there for a

846
00:20:19,810 --> 00:20:21,594
whole year. Yes,

847
00:20:21,594 --> 00:20:23,070
they left. Therefore.

848
00:20:23,070 --> 00:20:24,548
And, as I said, this is

849
00:20:24,548 --> 00:20:25,822
my opinion, this is my

850
00:20:25,822 --> 00:20:26,579
opinion.

851
00:20:26,579 --> 00:20:27,949
Well, thank you. And yes, I'm

852
00:20:27,949 --> 00:20:28,769
sorry I didn't

853
00:20:28,769 --> 00:20:29,815
call you, but I'm

854
00:20:29,815 --> 00:20:30,634
so glad you

855
00:20:30,634 --> 00:20:31,539
came

856
00:20:31,539 --> 00:20:32,641
tonight so we could

857
00:20:32,641 --> 00:20:33,768
talk. Sorry,

858
00:20:33,768 --> 00:20:34,826
but you know, I'll do a little more

859
00:20:34,826 --> 00:20:35,884
research

860
00:20:35,884 --> 00:20:36,779
on this and

861
00:20:36,779 --> 00:20:37,973
then we'll talk. Let

862
00:20:37,973 --> 00:20:39,128
the commission decide what

863
00:20:39,128 --> 00:20:40,931
they want to do.

864
00:20:40,931 --> 00:20:43,172
Good. Okay, I appreciate

865
00:20:43,172 --> 00:20:44,318
that, because yeah, to

866
00:20:44,318 --> 00:20:45,791
demolish them within,

867
00:20:45,791 --> 00:20:47,183
you know, about, a

868
00:20:47,183 --> 00:20:48,451
month after

869
00:20:48,451 --> 00:20:50,047
Memorial Day, uh, I think, you

870
00:20:50,047 --> 00:20:53,099
know, that's unacceptable to me

871
00:20:53,099 --> 00:20:55,507
. And, and plus

872
00:20:55,507 --> 00:20:56,668
, uh, you know, uh,

873
00:20:56,668 --> 00:20:58,217
now, uh, after

874
00:20:58,217 --> 00:20:59,726
the flags were gone, uh

875
00:20:59,726 --> 00:21:00,694
, on my

876
00:21:00,694 --> 00:21:02,010
next trip

877
00:21:02,010 --> 00:21:03,249
there, I put

878
00:21:03,249 --> 00:21:04,371
new flags on

879
00:21:04,371 --> 00:21:05,764
my father's grave, my

880
00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:07,235
great-grandfather's grave,

881
00:21:07,235 --> 00:21:08,629
and I also put

882
00:21:08,629 --> 00:21:09,829
one on Paul, uh,

883
00:21:09,829 --> 00:21:12,103
Amel Sr. He's

884
00:21:12,103 --> 00:21:13,082
another

885
00:21:13,082 --> 00:21:14,095
World

886
00:21:14,095 --> 00:21:15,411
War II veteran, and, uh, the family is a

887
00:21:15,411 --> 00:21:16,627
friend of my family,

888
00:21:16,627 --> 00:21:17,774
so I made sure to

889
00:21:17,774 --> 00:21:18,990
put one on

890
00:21:18,990 --> 00:21:20,623
his grave as well. And, uh,

891
00:21:20,623 --> 00:21:22,154
so...Well,

892
00:21:22,154 --> 00:21:23,674
thank you very much. And, uh,

893
00:21:23,674 --> 00:21:24,977
I have your number, so

894
00:21:24,977 --> 00:21:26,247
I'll be in touch with

895
00:21:26,247 --> 00:21:27,321
you so you can

896
00:21:27,321 --> 00:21:28,200
find out what

897
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:28,982
decision they're going to

898
00:21:28,982 --> 00:21:29,636
make.

899
00:21:29,636 --> 00:21:31,187
Okay, I appreciate that.

900
00:21:31,187 --> 00:21:33,672
Thank you very much. Thank you.

901
00:21:33,672 --> 00:21:35,626
Okay, thank you. Is there

902
00:21:35,626 --> 00:21:36,967
anyone else online

903
00:21:36,967 --> 00:21:38,062
who has public

904
00:21:38,062 --> 00:21:41,220
comments? Dana and

905
00:21:41,220 --> 00:21:43,864
Mel.

906
00:21:43,864 --> 00:21:45,034
Just listening.

907
00:21:45,034 --> 00:21:46,425
Okay, just okay.

908
00:21:46,425 --> 00:21:47,292
So, no one

909
00:21:47,292 --> 00:21:48,566
raises their hands. So,

910
00:21:48,566 --> 00:21:49,679
I guess you're

911
00:21:49,679 --> 00:21:50,355
okay with

912
00:21:50,355 --> 00:21:51,652
the comments. If

913
00:21:51,652 --> 00:21:52,526
you have public

914
00:21:52,526 --> 00:21:53,498
comments about... Please

915
00:21:53,498 --> 00:21:54,275
step up to

916
00:21:54,275 --> 00:21:55,376
the microphone so you

917
00:21:55,376 --> 00:21:58,276
can be heard.

918
00:21:58,276 --> 00:21:59,803
I'm Penny Penny Griffin

919
00:21:59,803 --> 00:21:59,952
.

920
00:21:59,952 --> 00:22:02,142
Yes.

921
00:22:02,142 --> 00:22:03,113
Um, my husband is a

922
00:22:03,113 --> 00:22:04,467
veteran and noticed that

923
00:22:04,467 --> 00:22:05,751
the flags were gone very

924
00:22:05,751 --> 00:22:07,104
early and, um, talked

925
00:22:07,104 --> 00:22:08,354
to Joanna about it and

926
00:22:08,354 --> 00:22:09,499
we think they

927
00:22:09,499 --> 00:22:10,783
should definitely be left on

928
00:22:10,783 --> 00:22:12,033
much longer than

929
00:22:12,033 --> 00:22:13,402
they were.

930
00:22:13,402 --> 00:22:14,304
Do you think

931
00:22:14,304 --> 00:22:14,960
they should

932
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,126
stay year-round?

933
00:22:16,126 --> 00:22:17,131
I mean, it's

934
00:22:17,131 --> 00:22:18,301
such a hard thing. I didn't

935
00:22:18,301 --> 00:22:19,213
serve, and then there are

936
00:22:19,213 --> 00:22:20,290
veterans who say,

937
00:22:20,290 --> 00:22:21,285
"We took them off one

938
00:22:21,285 --> 00:22:22,460
year in October." And people are

939
00:22:22,460 --> 00:22:23,526
upset because they

940
00:22:23,526 --> 00:22:24,155
weren't there for

941
00:22:24,155 --> 00:22:25,317
Veterans Day. But if it's

942
00:22:25,317 --> 00:22:26,299
really snowy,

943
00:22:26,299 --> 00:22:27,247
you know, then you

944
00:22:27,247 --> 00:22:28,501
walk around a pile of

945
00:22:28,501 --> 00:22:29,483
snow, and then it's

946
00:22:29,483 --> 00:22:30,601
disrespectful because,

947
00:22:30,601 --> 00:22:31,922
you know, in the spring you have

948
00:22:31,922 --> 00:22:33,140
broken flags?

949
00:22:33,140 --> 00:22:34,491
Like I'm not the right person...

950
00:22:34,491 --> 00:22:35,770
You know, I just don't

951
00:22:35,770 --> 00:22:37,627
know. If I were serving, I

952
00:22:37,627 --> 00:22:38,917
felt like I should have an

953
00:22:38,917 --> 00:22:40,173
opinion, but I don't

954
00:22:40,173 --> 00:22:41,647
. I don't know if I have the

955
00:22:41,647 --> 00:22:42,483
right to do this.

956
00:22:42,483 --> 00:22:43,976
Hmm, I would ask Fred

957
00:22:43,976 --> 00:22:46,232
on my behalf. As a

958
00:22:46,232 --> 00:22:47,147
veterinarian, I would

959
00:22:47,147 --> 00:22:48,342
let him...I would

960
00:22:48,342 --> 00:22:49,644
ask him what he

961
00:22:49,644 --> 00:22:50,131
thinks.

962
00:22:50,131 --> 00:22:51,068
Yes. He

963
00:22:51,068 --> 00:22:52,250
was upset.

964
00:22:52,250 --> 00:22:53,161
Yes.

965
00:22:53,161 --> 00:22:54,288
They left.

966
00:22:54,288 --> 00:22:55,884
Yes. Good. Well, that's

967
00:22:55,884 --> 00:22:57,064
good to know. We'll have

968
00:22:57,064 --> 00:22:58,132
to...Like I

969
00:22:58,132 --> 00:22:59,116
said, I'll check with

970
00:22:59,116 --> 00:22:59,875
other cities and

971
00:22:59,875 --> 00:23:00,775
see what they're

972
00:23:00,775 --> 00:23:01,862
doing.

973
00:23:01,862 --> 00:23:03,117
And I don't know, maybe it's

974
00:23:03,117 --> 00:23:04,373
worth asking a

975
00:23:04,373 --> 00:23:05,119
question here for

976
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,476
decision-making, because

977
00:23:06,476 --> 00:23:07,732
it's in this area...I

978
00:23:07,732 --> 00:23:08,818
mean, I don't

979
00:23:08,818 --> 00:23:10,107
think it should

980
00:23:10,107 --> 00:23:10,854
just be a way

981
00:23:10,854 --> 00:23:12,282
in...

982
00:23:12,282 --> 00:23:14,608
No, no, I know. I know.

983
00:23:14,608 --> 00:23:14,988
Yes.

984
00:23:14,988 --> 00:23:16,091
I called them and

985
00:23:16,091 --> 00:23:17,054
they had how much

986
00:23:17,054 --> 00:23:18,158
bread and I serve

987
00:23:18,158 --> 00:23:18,994
three cemeteries.

988
00:23:18,994 --> 00:23:20,266
Yes. No, we just...

989
00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:21,330
Yeah, it's just...

990
00:23:21,330 --> 00:23:22,059
It was a little

991
00:23:22,059 --> 00:23:22,830
unexpected.

992
00:23:22,830 --> 00:23:23,693
I tried a few

993
00:23:23,693 --> 00:23:24,656
different things and none

994
00:23:24,656 --> 00:23:25,620
were satisfying.

995
00:23:25,620 --> 00:23:26,121
Yes.

996
00:23:26,121 --> 00:23:28,075
but thank you. Thank you.

997
00:23:28,075 --> 00:23:31,128
Penny. Does anyone

998
00:23:31,128 --> 00:23:31,917
else have any public

999
00:23:31,917 --> 00:23:32,801
comments on

1000
00:23:32,801 --> 00:23:34,032
anything that is not on the

1001
00:23:34,032 --> 00:23:38,630
agenda?

1002
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:41,372
I'm Barb Nickerson. I am

1003
00:23:41,372 --> 00:23:42,670
concerned about the two rivers and

1004
00:23:42,670 --> 00:23:43,806
this new planning for

1005
00:23:43,806 --> 00:23:46,414
Redhill. I talked

1006
00:23:46,414 --> 00:23:47,914
about this with Teresa. I

1007
00:23:47,914 --> 00:23:49,139
talked about this with

1008
00:23:49,139 --> 00:23:51,433
Dana. And I know there

1009
00:23:51,433 --> 00:23:52,916
will be a meeting on Wednesday.

1010
00:23:52,916 --> 00:23:53,814
I cannot be

1011
00:23:53,814 --> 00:23:54,857
present. I would

1012
00:23:54,857 --> 00:23:56,088
urge the election

1013
00:23:56,088 --> 00:23:57,427
commission to please

1014
00:23:57,427 --> 00:23:58,586
visit it to

1015
00:23:58,586 --> 00:23:59,491
find out what

1016
00:23:59,491 --> 00:24:00,830
people are saying, because it's

1017
00:24:00,830 --> 00:24:01,900
not just me.

1018
00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:02,945
No.

1019
00:24:02,945 --> 00:24:04,356
I'm the only one who says anything about

1020
00:24:04,356 --> 00:24:05,892
it.

1021
00:24:05,892 --> 00:24:07,942
Yes. Uh, Denise and I

1022
00:24:07,942 --> 00:24:08,874
plan to

1023
00:24:08,874 --> 00:24:10,040
attend.

1024
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,200
I think you all

1025
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,142
should, because you

1026
00:24:12,142 --> 00:24:14,098
represent Bethel.

1027
00:24:14,098 --> 00:24:15,293
So get out there and

1028
00:24:15,293 --> 00:24:16,190
see what

1029
00:24:16,190 --> 00:24:18,317
happens. So

1030
00:24:18,317 --> 00:24:19,620
many people

1031
00:24:19,620 --> 00:24:20,554
have no idea. They are

1032
00:24:20,554 --> 00:24:21,618
changing what we

1033
00:24:21,618 --> 00:24:22,908
can do with our

1034
00:24:22,908 --> 00:24:24,102
property

1035
00:24:24,102 --> 00:24:25,199
using maps

1036
00:24:25,199 --> 00:24:26,557
they have taken from the sky.

1037
00:24:26,557 --> 00:24:28,126
Hmm.

1038
00:24:28,126 --> 00:24:29,632
And they don't tell us.

1039
00:24:29,632 --> 00:24:30,162
Yes.

1040
00:24:30,162 --> 00:24:31,364
So if you know

1041
00:24:31,364 --> 00:24:32,567
this is happening,

1042
00:24:32,567 --> 00:24:33,770
you can decide you

1043
00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:34,672
want to

1044
00:24:34,672 --> 00:24:35,909
do something, and suddenly you

1045
00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:37,212
find your own piece of

1046
00:24:37,212 --> 00:24:38,047
land in the wetlands

1047
00:24:38,047 --> 00:24:39,346
.

1048
00:24:39,346 --> 00:24:40,855
Right.

1049
00:24:40,855 --> 00:24:42,186
They can't just

1050
00:24:42,186 --> 00:24:43,352
change what my

1051
00:24:43,352 --> 00:24:44,484
land is without telling

1052
00:24:44,484 --> 00:24:45,280
me.

1053
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:45,966
Right.

1054
00:24:45,966 --> 00:24:47,031
They say, "Well, you

1055
00:24:47,031 --> 00:24:48,185
can look at the

1056
00:24:48,185 --> 00:24:49,326
maps." Well, all it

1057
00:24:49,326 --> 00:24:50,489
says when I

1058
00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:51,495
try to enter

1059
00:24:51,495 --> 00:24:52,721
my address is that

1060
00:24:52,721 --> 00:24:53,765
it is unavailable.

1061
00:24:53,765 --> 00:24:54,161
Yes.

1062
00:24:54,161 --> 00:24:55,500
So I don't know how to

1063
00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:57,051
do it. So,

1064
00:24:57,051 --> 00:24:58,310
send me everyone

1065
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:59,139
so I can get a

1066
00:24:59,139 --> 00:25:00,233
piece of paper from this

1067
00:25:00,233 --> 00:25:01,526
Two Rivers group that

1068
00:25:01,526 --> 00:25:02,587
says what

1069
00:25:02,587 --> 00:25:03,582
they're going to

1070
00:25:03,582 --> 00:25:05,804
do. Because they

1071
00:25:05,804 --> 00:25:08,285
just do it.

1072
00:25:08,285 --> 00:25:09,147
Right. And you

1073
00:25:09,147 --> 00:25:10,156
said you raised

1074
00:25:10,156 --> 00:25:11,014
your concerns with the

1075
00:25:11,014 --> 00:25:12,023
planning commission,

1076
00:25:12,023 --> 00:25:12,578
which is great.

1077
00:25:12,578 --> 00:25:13,493
I did it.

1078
00:25:13,493 --> 00:25:14,871
And I checked to see if

1079
00:25:14,871 --> 00:25:15,855
all the planning issues were heard

1080
00:25:15,855 --> 00:25:16,904
,

1081
00:25:16,904 --> 00:25:17,417
honestly.

1082
00:25:17,417 --> 00:25:19,021
But I talked to the

1083
00:25:19,052 --> 00:25:20,575
planning commission. Um, I

1084
00:25:20,606 --> 00:25:21,704
emailed

1085
00:25:21,704 --> 00:25:22,741
Dana and Tina and them to

1086
00:25:22,741 --> 00:25:23,718
see how

1087
00:25:23,718 --> 00:25:24,785
they feel about

1088
00:25:24,785 --> 00:25:25,853
this, because I know that

1089
00:25:25,853 --> 00:25:26,646
my understanding of the

1090
00:25:26,646 --> 00:25:27,836
regional plan

1091
00:25:27,836 --> 00:25:29,057
they're proposing

1092
00:25:29,057 --> 00:25:29,911
is a rollback

1093
00:25:29,911 --> 00:25:31,040
version of what

1094
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,158
we have now. So,

1095
00:25:32,158 --> 00:25:32,983
if the regional

1096
00:25:32,983 --> 00:25:33,663
plan they are

1097
00:25:33,663 --> 00:25:34,537
proposing is not

1098
00:25:34,537 --> 00:25:35,095
approved, we will be

1099
00:25:35,095 --> 00:25:35,848
left with the

1100
00:25:35,848 --> 00:25:36,794
regional plan

1101
00:25:36,794 --> 00:25:39,072
we have. And I know, as

1102
00:25:39,104 --> 00:25:40,296
you probably know, that once the

1103
00:25:40,296 --> 00:25:41,391
regional plan

1104
00:25:41,391 --> 00:25:42,551
is adopted, it will

1105
00:25:42,551 --> 00:25:43,743
still have to

1106
00:25:43,743 --> 00:25:44,935
go to the

1107
00:25:44,935 --> 00:25:45,709
state for review, but that

1108
00:25:45,709 --> 00:25:48,167
seems a little

1109
00:25:48,167 --> 00:25:49,696
uncertain.

1110
00:25:49,696 --> 00:25:51,253
Yeah, I don't think Two

1111
00:25:51,253 --> 00:25:52,473
Rivers necessarily

1112
00:25:52,473 --> 00:25:56,428
gets a fast and

1113
00:25:56,428 --> 00:25:57,662
hard contribution from

1114
00:25:57,662 --> 00:25:58,681
Learn. I think I

1115
00:25:58,681 --> 00:25:59,604
agree that

1116
00:25:59,604 --> 00:26:00,629
indefinite is a

1117
00:26:00,629 --> 00:26:01,792
term, I would say,

1118
00:26:01,792 --> 00:26:02,542
yes, definitely.

1119
00:26:02,542 --> 00:26:03,941
They are just people like

1120
00:26:03,941 --> 00:26:05,304
you and me making

1121
00:26:05,304 --> 00:26:06,172
these decisions.

1122
00:26:06,172 --> 00:26:07,025
Yes.

1123
00:26:07,025 --> 00:26:08,960
We didn't choose them.

1124
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,483
No. We didn't choose.

1125
00:26:10,483 --> 00:26:11,568
So I don't understand

1126
00:26:11,568 --> 00:26:12,587
why they can

1127
00:26:12,587 --> 00:26:13,608
seize power.

1128
00:26:13,608 --> 00:26:15,081
Yes, I don't know.

1129
00:26:15,081 --> 00:26:16,210
Of course, you could

1130
00:26:16,210 --> 00:26:17,140
say that, but we're

1131
00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:18,237
going to leave on

1132
00:26:18,237 --> 00:26:19,101
Wednesday, so I

1133
00:26:19,101 --> 00:26:20,431
talked to them. So

1134
00:26:20,431 --> 00:26:21,206
I tried behind

1135
00:26:21,206 --> 00:26:21,837
the scenes,

1136
00:26:21,837 --> 00:26:22,784
at least when you

1137
00:26:22,784 --> 00:26:23,530
got your

1138
00:26:23,530 --> 00:26:24,277
information and

1139
00:26:24,277 --> 00:26:25,324
talked to them.

1140
00:26:25,324 --> 00:26:26,864
Like, what's going on

1141
00:26:26,864 --> 00:26:28,385
? What's up with this? So, we're

1142
00:26:28,385 --> 00:26:29,717
meeting on Wednesday,

1143
00:26:29,717 --> 00:26:30,908
um, from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m., so

1144
00:26:30,908 --> 00:26:32,275
hopefully we'll be

1145
00:26:32,275 --> 00:26:33,221
, you know, better

1146
00:26:33,221 --> 00:26:34,268
informed.

1147
00:26:34,268 --> 00:26:35,188
Hopefully, or

1148
00:26:35,188 --> 00:26:36,425
at least we will provide you with

1149
00:26:36,425 --> 00:26:38,387
some information.

1150
00:26:38,387 --> 00:26:38,962
Good.

1151
00:26:38,962 --> 00:26:40,598
Thank you, Bert.

1152
00:26:40,598 --> 00:26:41,830
How are you? From

1153
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:45,442
6:00 PM to 9:00 PM.

1154
00:26:45,442 --> 00:26:47,409
Here. Yes.

1155
00:26:47,409 --> 00:26:49,229
Tell me your name.

1156
00:26:49,229 --> 00:26:51,052
Bill Hall. I'm a veteran,

1157
00:26:51,052 --> 00:26:52,350
and, uh, I think it would be

1158
00:26:52,350 --> 00:26:53,649
nice if the

1159
00:26:53,649 --> 00:26:55,065
flags were flown

1160
00:26:55,065 --> 00:26:58,790
year-round. But I

1161
00:26:58,790 --> 00:26:59,784
understand money,

1162
00:26:59,784 --> 00:27:01,256
budgets, etc., but, uh,

1163
00:27:01,256 --> 00:27:02,065
if the flag is

1164
00:27:02,065 --> 00:27:02,948
damaged,

1165
00:27:02,948 --> 00:27:04,052
toppled, or

1166
00:27:04,052 --> 00:27:05,045
broken, it

1167
00:27:05,045 --> 00:27:08,867
needs to be removed. And

1168
00:27:08,867 --> 00:27:10,204
I believe it should be

1169
00:27:10,204 --> 00:27:11,541
displayed all

1170
00:27:11,541 --> 00:27:12,404
year round.

1171
00:27:12,404 --> 00:27:14,263
Good. So it's my

1172
00:27:14,263 --> 00:27:15,758
business, okay? And so

1173
00:27:15,758 --> 00:27:16,469
it's not like, it's

1174
00:27:16,469 --> 00:27:17,458
normal, you don't

1175
00:27:17,458 --> 00:27:18,262
care if it's

1176
00:27:18,262 --> 00:27:19,251
buried in snow or

1177
00:27:19,251 --> 00:27:20,589
anything like that. It's not... I

1178
00:27:20,589 --> 00:27:21,876
just want to know what

1179
00:27:21,876 --> 00:27:23,196
disrespect is, because I'm

1180
00:27:23,196 --> 00:27:23,790
so afraid of making the

1181
00:27:23,790 --> 00:27:25,077
wrong choice

1182
00:27:25,077 --> 00:27:26,034
, the wrong

1183
00:27:26,034 --> 00:27:27,202
decision. But you're a

1184
00:27:27,202 --> 00:27:28,282
veteran and you don't

1185
00:27:28,282 --> 00:27:30,149
feel like it's

1186
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:31,463
me...the whole point is that

1187
00:27:31,463 --> 00:27:32,711
disrespect for the flag is

1188
00:27:32,711 --> 00:27:33,992
broken and lying on the

1189
00:27:33,992 --> 00:27:35,657
ground in the mud.

1190
00:27:35,657 --> 00:27:38,034
Yes, I agree.

1191
00:27:38,034 --> 00:27:39,420
The flag buried under the

1192
00:27:39,420 --> 00:27:40,356
snow...I can

1193
00:27:40,356 --> 00:27:41,396
understand that it's

1194
00:27:41,396 --> 00:27:42,783
disrespectful, but, you know,

1195
00:27:42,783 --> 00:27:43,996
we go back to

1196
00:27:43,996 --> 00:27:44,967
different wars where

1197
00:27:44,967 --> 00:27:46,319
the guys were out there, they

1198
00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:49,001
fought in the snow. I

1199
00:27:49,001 --> 00:27:50,177
mean, they were

1200
00:27:50,177 --> 00:27:51,353
there, you know, that's true

1201
00:27:51,353 --> 00:27:52,411
for the long

1202
00:27:52,411 --> 00:27:53,188
term.

1203
00:27:53,188 --> 00:27:54,236
Yeah, but it's nice to

1204
00:27:54,236 --> 00:27:56,006
hear your opinion, and

1205
00:27:56,006 --> 00:27:57,369
to say that, you know, I'm

1206
00:27:57,369 --> 00:27:58,558
saying that I had

1207
00:27:58,558 --> 00:27:59,538
someone

1208
00:27:59,538 --> 00:28:00,831
buried there, and I went to

1209
00:28:00,831 --> 00:28:01,916
visit them in

1210
00:28:01,916 --> 00:28:03,000
December because it was

1211
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,699
their

1212
00:28:03,699 --> 00:28:05,282
birthday. It would be

1213
00:28:05,282 --> 00:28:06,409
nice to see

1214
00:28:06,409 --> 00:28:07,150
the flag there, and I would

1215
00:28:07,150 --> 00:28:08,152
clear the snow.

1216
00:28:08,152 --> 00:28:09,938
Yes. Well, thank you. This is

1217
00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:11,148
really useful.

1218
00:28:11,148 --> 00:28:14,116
Thank you, Dale.

1219
00:28:14,116 --> 00:28:15,387
Chris, I know a guy

1220
00:28:15,387 --> 00:28:16,093
who runs the

1221
00:28:16,093 --> 00:28:17,506
veterans cemetery

1222
00:28:17,506 --> 00:28:18,503
in Randolph.

1223
00:28:18,503 --> 00:28:19,002
Hmm.

1224
00:28:19,002 --> 00:28:20,098
So let's see if

1225
00:28:20,098 --> 00:28:21,198
they do it.

1226
00:28:21,198 --> 00:28:22,589
Yes, that would be helpful

1227
00:28:22,589 --> 00:28:24,139
. Yes, just so you know.

1228
00:28:24,139 --> 00:28:24,528
Yes.

1229
00:28:24,528 --> 00:28:25,943
Wrong. That's right

1230
00:28:25,943 --> 00:28:26,084
,

1231
00:28:26,084 --> 00:28:27,557
and that's right, and that's beautiful.

1232
00:28:27,557 --> 00:28:28,890
This is a beautiful cemetery.

1233
00:28:28,890 --> 00:28:30,107
That would be good. I

1234
00:28:30,107 --> 00:28:31,049
know they are very

1235
00:28:31,049 --> 00:28:32,133
strict about the

1236
00:28:32,133 --> 00:28:33,275
rules about wreaths and

1237
00:28:33,275 --> 00:28:34,388
stuff because

1238
00:28:34,388 --> 00:28:35,601
my father was once buried there.

1239
00:28:35,601 --> 00:28:36,785
And if you don't get

1240
00:28:36,785 --> 00:28:37,970
there on the right day

1241
00:28:37,970 --> 00:28:38,577
, your wreath

1242
00:28:38,577 --> 00:28:39,306
will be left in a

1243
00:28:39,306 --> 00:28:40,441
huge pile. And

1244
00:28:40,441 --> 00:28:42,094
yes, my husband

1245
00:28:42,126 --> 00:28:43,229
went through it one year because

1246
00:28:43,229 --> 00:28:44,331
his mom had

1247
00:28:44,331 --> 00:28:45,799
something special there. He

1248
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:47,128
was there for a while.

1249
00:28:47,128 --> 00:28:47,916
He's like, "I

1250
00:28:47,916 --> 00:28:48,836
really should have

1251
00:28:48,836 --> 00:28:49,808
left when she

1252
00:28:49,808 --> 00:28:50,886
told me." "So, uh,

1253
00:28:50,886 --> 00:28:52,008
but that could be it,

1254
00:28:52,008 --> 00:28:53,190
I could also look

1255
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:54,206
at their website.

1256
00:28:54,206 --> 00:28:55,249
Or not do what

1257
00:28:55,249 --> 00:28:56,263
we're doing, but then there's

1258
00:28:56,263 --> 00:28:56,901
more

1259
00:28:56,901 --> 00:28:57,610
information.

1260
00:28:57,610 --> 00:28:58,709
Thanks, or, you know, I

1261
00:28:58,709 --> 00:28:59,898
could...I'll look

1262
00:28:59,898 --> 00:29:00,909
at their website too and

1263
00:29:00,909 --> 00:29:01,682
see, uh, that's a

1264
00:29:01,682 --> 00:29:02,674
good option.

1265
00:29:02,674 --> 00:29:03,599
Thanks.

1266
00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:04,769
Yeah, my dad

1267
00:29:04,769 --> 00:29:05,939
has

1268
00:29:05,939 --> 00:29:07,212
a flag at the cemetery in Barrie, and I think they'll

1269
00:29:07,212 --> 00:29:08,774
take it down before the winter.

1270
00:29:08,774 --> 00:29:10,042
Because when I go down there,

1271
00:29:10,042 --> 00:29:11,243
like, in April

1272
00:29:11,243 --> 00:29:12,377
or something, they're

1273
00:29:12,377 --> 00:29:13,951
not there. But we could

1274
00:29:13,951 --> 00:29:15,085
check out the

1275
00:29:15,085 --> 00:29:16,250
veterans' cemetery and, you know,

1276
00:29:16,250 --> 00:29:17,006
talk to the

1277
00:29:17,006 --> 00:29:18,108
veterans in this

1278
00:29:18,108 --> 00:29:19,375
town.

1279
00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:20,717
That's a great idea.

1280
00:29:20,717 --> 00:29:22,393
Thanks.

1281
00:29:22,393 --> 00:29:25,479
for your input.

1282
00:29:25,479 --> 00:29:29,052
Any other

1283
00:29:29,052 --> 00:29:30,164
public comments

1284
00:29:30,164 --> 00:29:31,184
on things that aren't

1285
00:29:31,184 --> 00:29:32,204
on the

1286
00:29:32,204 --> 00:29:33,805
agenda?

1287
00:29:33,805 --> 00:29:34,929
I'm Susan's neighbor again

1288
00:29:34,929 --> 00:29:37,261
. Uh, is there a

1289
00:29:37,261 --> 00:29:43,784
policy for

1290
00:29:43,784 --> 00:29:45,071
removing problem

1291
00:29:45,071 --> 00:29:46,293
trees along the road

1292
00:29:46,293 --> 00:29:47,516
that are definitely going to fall on the

1293
00:29:47,516 --> 00:29:51,828
road?

1294
00:29:51,828 --> 00:29:52,754
You could just

1295
00:29:52,754 --> 00:29:53,890
let AJ know, and

1296
00:29:53,890 --> 00:29:54,936
if he wants an

1297
00:29:54,936 --> 00:29:55,773
opinion, he can

1298
00:29:55,773 --> 00:29:56,490
talk to the

1299
00:29:56,490 --> 00:29:57,656
road worker

1300
00:29:57,656 --> 00:29:58,873
. He can talk

1301
00:29:58,873 --> 00:29:59,725
to the

1302
00:29:59,725 --> 00:30:00,737
arborist, Jeb.

1303
00:30:00,737 --> 00:30:01,288
Okay.

1304
00:30:01,288 --> 00:30:02,693
If you know, if...

1305
00:30:02,693 --> 00:30:03,990
" It's sick or something

1306
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:04,947
, so, well,

1307
00:30:04,947 --> 00:30:06,048
it's going to be on the

1308
00:30:06,048 --> 00:30:07,183
road right now, so

1309
00:30:07,183 --> 00:30:08,251
if you send

1310
00:30:08,251 --> 00:30:09,385
me a picture or an

1311
00:30:09,385 --> 00:30:10,680
address or something, I'll

1312
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,846
make sure he

1313
00:30:11,846 --> 00:30:12,497
gets...

1314
00:30:12,497 --> 00:30:14,245
Okay. Yes. OK.

1315
00:30:14,245 --> 00:30:14,562
With

1316
00:30:14,562 --> 00:30:15,524
pleasure.

1317
00:30:15,524 --> 00:30:19,081
Thank you, Penny.

1318
00:30:19,081 --> 00:30:19,932
Any other

1319
00:30:19,932 --> 00:30:23,699
public comments?

1320
00:30:23,699 --> 00:30:27,423
Good. Now we will

1321
00:30:27,423 --> 00:30:28,635
move on to item

1322
00:30:28,635 --> 00:30:29,584
one, the

1323
00:30:29,584 --> 00:30:31,516
city garage documents, uh, the

1324
00:30:32,367 --> 00:30:33,185
capital

1325
00:30:33,185 --> 00:30:34,069
construction decision, B,

1326
00:30:34,069 --> 00:30:34,986
a declaration of the

1327
00:30:34,986 --> 00:30:35,968
official intent of

1328
00:30:35,968 --> 00:30:36,688
the city of Bethel to

1329
00:30:36,688 --> 00:30:37,867
reimburse certain

1330
00:30:37,867 --> 00:30:39,144
expenses from the proceeds

1331
00:30:39,144 --> 00:30:40,388
of the debt up to

1332
00:30:40,388 --> 00:30:41,239
500,000 and see the

1333
00:30:41,239 --> 00:30:41,796
official

1334
00:30:41,796 --> 00:30:42,778
warning at the

1335
00:30:42,778 --> 00:30:44,087
special

1336
00:30:44,087 --> 00:30:48,440
Bethel city meeting. So,

1337
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,767
talk a little bit about

1338
00:30:49,767 --> 00:30:52,063
that. Um, let me

1339
00:30:52,063 --> 00:30:53,233
go to the right

1340
00:30:53,233 --> 00:30:54,037
page.

1341
00:30:54,037 --> 00:30:55,330
The suggestion is

1342
00:30:55,330 --> 00:30:56,587
to make a suggestion first.

1343
00:30:56,587 --> 00:30:57,487
Yes.

1344
00:30:57,487 --> 00:30:58,731
Make a suggestion

1345
00:30:58,731 --> 00:31:01,061
first.

1346
00:31:01,061 --> 00:31:12,117
Yes. Yes.

1347
00:31:12,117 --> 00:31:13,345
Secondly.

1348
00:31:13,345 --> 00:31:14,856
Good. Now we have a

1349
00:31:14,856 --> 00:31:21,562
discussion. Good.

1350
00:31:21,562 --> 00:31:23,312
So, obviously. So, the

1351
00:31:23,312 --> 00:31:24,752
first one is the resolution in the

1352
00:31:24,752 --> 00:31:27,380
package. Apparently, it's about,

1353
00:31:27,416 --> 00:31:28,679
you know, essentially, we

1354
00:31:28,679 --> 00:31:30,013
need to build a

1355
00:31:30,013 --> 00:31:31,347
new city parking garage,

1356
00:31:31,347 --> 00:31:32,225
about 8,800

1357
00:31:32,225 --> 00:31:33,559
square feet, and

1358
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:34,541
related

1359
00:31:34,541 --> 00:31:35,594
improvements, and we're

1360
00:31:35,594 --> 00:31:37,064
now at...3.5 million.

1361
00:31:37,064 --> 00:31:38,867
So, I will tell you that

1362
00:31:38,867 --> 00:31:40,231
we are not quite at the

1363
00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:41,941
3.5 mark. We are at the

1364
00:31:41,941 --> 00:31:44,226
3.4 mark, and there are some

1365
00:31:44,226 --> 00:31:47,830
changes. And, um, but if

1366
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:48,584
you weren't able to

1367
00:31:48,584 --> 00:31:49,698
watch the video

1368
00:31:49,698 --> 00:31:50,681
or go to the

1369
00:31:50,681 --> 00:31:53,074
open house, there's

1370
00:31:53,107 --> 00:31:56,582
drywall at the city garage. And in the 80s

1371
00:31:56,582 --> 00:31:57,674
or 90s, we were

1372
00:31:57,674 --> 00:31:59,009
getting, like in the

1373
00:31:59,009 --> 00:32:00,425
United States,

1374
00:32:00,425 --> 00:32:01,962
drywall from China,

1375
00:32:01,962 --> 00:32:03,217
which could contain

1376
00:32:03,217 --> 00:32:05,274
asbestos. So if we

1377
00:32:05,274 --> 00:32:06,335
pass the

1378
00:32:06,335 --> 00:32:07,157
asbestos test, then

1379
00:32:07,157 --> 00:32:08,013
obviously we will have to

1380
00:32:08,013 --> 00:32:09,380
do

1381
00:32:09,380 --> 00:32:11,598
asbestos abatement.

1382
00:32:11,598 --> 00:32:12,839
Another thing is, we are demolishing the

1383
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:13,913
existing city

1384
00:32:13,913 --> 00:32:14,786
garage, so we

1385
00:32:14,786 --> 00:32:16,061
are going to build

1386
00:32:16,061 --> 00:32:18,349
on the same site. So

1387
00:32:18,349 --> 00:32:19,373
hopefully they

1388
00:32:19,373 --> 00:32:20,200
won't find anything there

1389
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,092
when they

1390
00:32:21,092 --> 00:32:22,051
tear it down and

1391
00:32:22,051 --> 00:32:23,516
take away all the concrete.

1392
00:32:23,516 --> 00:32:27,738
So, the reason for the 3.5

1393
00:32:27,738 --> 00:32:28,970
is that

1394
00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:29,977
if they

1395
00:32:29,977 --> 00:32:31,395
find something under it or

1396
00:32:31,395 --> 00:32:32,701
if there is

1397
00:32:32,701 --> 00:32:33,933
asbestos cleanup, then that's

1398
00:32:33,933 --> 00:32:35,351
just the cost, which

1399
00:32:35,351 --> 00:32:37,156
is an unknown variable.

1400
00:32:37,156 --> 00:32:37,916
We have...5% for

1401
00:32:37,916 --> 00:32:38,849
unforeseen

1402
00:32:38,849 --> 00:32:40,024
expenses, but that

1403
00:32:40,024 --> 00:32:40,646
may not be

1404
00:32:40,646 --> 00:32:42,051
enough. We also

1405
00:32:42,051 --> 00:32:43,041
think we

1406
00:32:43,041 --> 00:32:43,744
may have

1407
00:32:43,744 --> 00:32:44,925
asbestos

1408
00:32:44,925 --> 00:32:46,388
sewer pipes. So we are

1409
00:32:46,388 --> 00:32:49,432
waiting for that. The other

1410
00:32:49,432 --> 00:32:50,336
thing is, I have

1411
00:32:50,336 --> 00:32:51,658
about

1412
00:32:51,658 --> 00:32:52,980
$100,000 in capital

1413
00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:54,232
funds in reserve to, you know,

1414
00:32:54,232 --> 00:32:55,449
use to

1415
00:32:55,449 --> 00:32:56,702
pay for things

1416
00:32:56,702 --> 00:32:57,641
like...I don't...We don't

1417
00:32:57,641 --> 00:32:58,615
pay, no

1418
00:32:58,615 --> 00:32:59,937
offense, Joe, but we

1419
00:32:59,937 --> 00:33:00,806
don't pay for

1420
00:33:00,806 --> 00:33:03,147
legal fees.

1421
00:33:03,147 --> 00:33:04,338
Over the next 30

1422
00:33:04,338 --> 00:33:05,590
years and with

1423
00:33:05,620 --> 00:33:06,789
interest. We do

1424
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:08,318
n't do that. This is advertising.

1425
00:33:08,318 --> 00:33:08,976
We are going to

1426
00:33:08,976 --> 00:33:09,659
pay for this from the

1427
00:33:09,659 --> 00:33:10,570
general fund.

1428
00:33:10,570 --> 00:33:11,366
Legal Services

1429
00:33:11,366 --> 00:33:12,337
will pay for this from the

1430
00:33:12,337 --> 00:33:13,407
general fund. Um, the

1431
00:33:13,407 --> 00:33:14,330
clerk of works or

1432
00:33:14,330 --> 00:33:15,483
someone who will manage the

1433
00:33:15,483 --> 00:33:16,175
photographers

1434
00:33:16,175 --> 00:33:17,156
will pay for it either from the

1435
00:33:17,156 --> 00:33:18,310
general fund or

1436
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:19,527
from that $100,000.

1437
00:33:19,527 --> 00:33:20,493
So I'm not planning on

1438
00:33:20,493 --> 00:33:21,529
putting, you know,

1439
00:33:21,529 --> 00:33:22,772
any tables or anything

1440
00:33:22,772 --> 00:33:24,118
crazy into this fund

1441
00:33:24,118 --> 00:33:25,819
. It will actually

1442
00:33:25,819 --> 00:33:27,015
just be a garage. And, um,

1443
00:33:27,015 --> 00:33:28,204
it's going to look like this...

1444
00:33:28,204 --> 00:33:29,424
If you look at the

1445
00:33:29,424 --> 00:33:30,613
city website, I

1446
00:33:30,613 --> 00:33:31,741
have some renderings that I

1447
00:33:31,741 --> 00:33:32,259
need to

1448
00:33:32,259 --> 00:33:33,462
post. And...It will be

1449
00:33:33,462 --> 00:33:34,584
essentially the same as what

1450
00:33:34,584 --> 00:33:35,707
you see

1451
00:33:35,707 --> 00:33:37,160
now, only newer.

1452
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,319
There will be an additional

1453
00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:39,093
compartment. If

1454
00:33:39,093 --> 00:33:40,188
you look from the front, there

1455
00:33:40,188 --> 00:33:40,928
will be an

1456
00:33:40,928 --> 00:33:42,035
additional compartment on the left.

1457
00:33:42,035 --> 00:33:43,417
It will be about

1458
00:33:43,417 --> 00:33:45,162
10 feet longer. Hmm,

1459
00:33:45,162 --> 00:33:47,936
that's all. We're going to have to

1460
00:33:47,969 --> 00:33:49,311
install a wall that's

1461
00:33:49,311 --> 00:33:51,658
going to be concrete, with, uh, an

1462
00:33:51,692 --> 00:33:53,033
epoxy-coated concrete block

1463
00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:54,274
in the middle, because we can't

1464
00:33:54,274 --> 00:33:55,754
sand it.

1465
00:33:55,754 --> 00:33:56,396
We have no

1466
00:33:56,396 --> 00:33:57,842
water supply. We

1467
00:33:57,842 --> 00:33:58,781
don't have a place to place a

1468
00:33:58,781 --> 00:33:59,967
bet. So

1469
00:33:59,967 --> 00:34:01,169
this is what we needed to

1470
00:34:01,169 --> 00:34:02,372
do to, uh,

1471
00:34:02,372 --> 00:34:03,273
meet those

1472
00:34:03,273 --> 00:34:04,382
criteria. Hmm, there

1473
00:34:04,382 --> 00:34:05,393
will be an office, a

1474
00:34:05,393 --> 00:34:06,437
bathroom, a

1475
00:34:06,437 --> 00:34:07,818
recreation room, which is new.

1476
00:34:07,818 --> 00:34:08,886
They don't have a

1477
00:34:08,886 --> 00:34:09,955
lounge. And then a

1478
00:34:09,955 --> 00:34:10,746
vault that they

1479
00:34:10,746 --> 00:34:11,660
can lock up, because

1480
00:34:11,660 --> 00:34:12,550
as you all know,

1481
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:13,415
this property has

1482
00:34:13,415 --> 00:34:14,486
been broken into before. So

1483
00:34:14,486 --> 00:34:15,683
, uh, we hope

1484
00:34:15,683 --> 00:34:16,641
things don't get

1485
00:34:16,641 --> 00:34:17,960
stolen. Uh, now

1486
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,212
we have...We'll call it a

1487
00:34:19,212 --> 00:34:21,502
mezzanine, very loosely.

1488
00:34:21,530 --> 00:34:22,606
You can only get to it by ladder

1489
00:34:22,606 --> 00:34:23,993
. And wooden. So

1490
00:34:23,993 --> 00:34:25,070
we'll have...a mezzanine

1491
00:34:25,070 --> 00:34:26,049
upstairs to make it

1492
00:34:26,049 --> 00:34:27,394
heavier. There will be

1493
00:34:27,394 --> 00:34:28,456
shelves so the guys

1494
00:34:28,456 --> 00:34:29,612
can store

1495
00:34:29,612 --> 00:34:30,948
parts there. Um, but it's all,

1496
00:34:30,948 --> 00:34:32,002
you know, radiant

1497
00:34:32,002 --> 00:34:32,960
heat, which is a little more

1498
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,174
expensive up front, but

1499
00:34:34,174 --> 00:34:34,812
will be more

1500
00:34:34,812 --> 00:34:36,026
cost-effective

1501
00:34:36,026 --> 00:34:37,048
in the long

1502
00:34:37,048 --> 00:34:38,140
run. Our

1503
00:34:38,140 --> 00:34:39,111
backup heating

1504
00:34:39,111 --> 00:34:40,196
is that we're

1505
00:34:40,196 --> 00:34:41,282
going to

1506
00:34:41,282 --> 00:34:42,424
reuse our

1507
00:34:42,424 --> 00:34:44,281
existing, uh, used fuel oil furnace

1508
00:34:44,309 --> 00:34:45,466
. So, we have already

1509
00:34:45,466 --> 00:34:46,183
dismantled the

1510
00:34:46,183 --> 00:34:47,305
underground fuel

1511
00:34:47,305 --> 00:34:48,381
tank. We installed a

1512
00:34:48,381 --> 00:34:49,196
new ground

1513
00:34:49,196 --> 00:34:50,170
fuel tank. We

1514
00:34:50,170 --> 00:34:51,638
did all of this. So, uh

1515
00:34:51,638 --> 00:34:53,098
, we'll have

1516
00:34:53,098 --> 00:34:54,225
better numbers too. These are

1517
00:34:54,225 --> 00:34:55,420
preliminary figures.

1518
00:34:55,420 --> 00:34:56,418
We hope that when

1519
00:34:56,418 --> 00:34:57,367
we announce the tender,

1520
00:34:57,367 --> 00:34:58,016
we have several

1521
00:34:58,016 --> 00:34:58,990
local contractors

1522
00:34:58,990 --> 00:34:59,964
interested in

1523
00:34:59,964 --> 00:35:00,711
parts of it. Er,

1524
00:35:00,711 --> 00:35:01,282
demolition,

1525
00:35:01,282 --> 00:35:02,298
construction...er,

1526
00:35:02,298 --> 00:35:03,187
concreting and

1527
00:35:03,187 --> 00:35:04,415
earthworks. So maybe

1528
00:35:04,415 --> 00:35:05,552
we'll see

1529
00:35:05,552 --> 00:35:06,700
some savings there.

1530
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:09,462
So, you know, it

1531
00:35:09,462 --> 00:35:10,856
needs to be done. It's

1532
00:35:10,856 --> 00:35:12,029
just life safety

1533
00:35:12,029 --> 00:35:13,255
at the moment. We

1534
00:35:13,255 --> 00:35:14,490
need to reinforce

1535
00:35:14,490 --> 00:35:15,835
one wall so it can

1536
00:35:15,835 --> 00:35:17,179
survive the winter, uh, in

1537
00:35:17,179 --> 00:35:18,523
the hopes that we just...

1538
00:35:18,523 --> 00:35:19,703
That's it. You know how

1539
00:35:19,703 --> 00:35:20,743
someone said, "Well, you

1540
00:35:20,743 --> 00:35:21,671
could sneak a

1541
00:35:21,671 --> 00:35:22,626
German Shepherd

1542
00:35:22,626 --> 00:35:23,667
through some holes in

1543
00:35:23,667 --> 00:35:24,679
..." a wall, or a cat,

1544
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:25,668
or something. “Um,

1545
00:35:25,668 --> 00:35:26,531
just so you know,

1546
00:35:26,531 --> 00:35:27,323
but if you want to

1547
00:35:27,323 --> 00:35:28,209
watch the video, there’s a

1548
00:35:28,209 --> 00:35:29,142
link to it on

1549
00:35:29,142 --> 00:35:30,107
our website. Um,

1550
00:35:30,107 --> 00:35:32,124
you can also see it

1551
00:35:32,151 --> 00:35:33,089
on Orcomedia, I think. Then

1552
00:35:33,089 --> 00:35:34,243
maybe not. In

1553
00:35:34,243 --> 00:35:35,232
any case, it is on

1554
00:35:35,232 --> 00:35:36,312
our website. So

1555
00:35:36,312 --> 00:35:37,080
you can

1556
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,052
see him there. And I

1557
00:35:38,052 --> 00:35:38,998
will upload some

1558
00:35:38,998 --> 00:35:40,298
draft documents.

1559
00:35:40,298 --> 00:35:41,082
We will have two

1560
00:35:41,082 --> 00:35:42,229
newsletters

1561
00:35:42,229 --> 00:35:43,175
regarding bonds.

1562
00:35:43,175 --> 00:35:44,875
The first will be on October 12,

1563
00:35:44,875 --> 00:35:47,141
Columbus Day. Um, and

1564
00:35:47,141 --> 00:35:47,795
the contractor, the

1565
00:35:47,795 --> 00:35:48,546
general

1566
00:35:48,546 --> 00:35:49,722
contractor who's

1567
00:35:49,722 --> 00:35:50,963
doing this, will be here

1568
00:35:50,963 --> 00:35:53,312
for that. And then

1569
00:35:53,312 --> 00:35:55,674
we'll have another one, um, on the

1570
00:35:55,674 --> 00:35:58,727
20th-28th. So, the 12th and the 26th

1571
00:35:58,727 --> 00:36:00,480
. Um, we're also

1572
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,864
going to put out a

1573
00:36:01,864 --> 00:36:03,412
little newsletter. Um

1574
00:36:03,412 --> 00:36:04,665
, yes, 6 cents per

1575
00:36:04,665 --> 00:36:07,334
tax rate. Um,

1576
00:36:07,334 --> 00:36:08,768
but I posted it

1577
00:36:08,768 --> 00:36:09,825
there, how many

1578
00:36:09,825 --> 00:36:11,882
cents it is every day, etc.

1579
00:36:11,882 --> 00:36:12,837
But, again,

1580
00:36:12,837 --> 00:36:13,733
you know, any

1581
00:36:13,733 --> 00:36:14,778
savings, because

1582
00:36:14,778 --> 00:36:15,286
we have, um,

1583
00:36:15,286 --> 00:36:16,063
design,

1584
00:36:16,063 --> 00:36:17,168
construction, and we have an

1585
00:36:17,168 --> 00:36:18,302
open book,

1586
00:36:18,302 --> 00:36:19,407
any savings that…”

1587
00:36:19,407 --> 00:36:20,613
comes back to us.

1588
00:36:20,613 --> 00:36:21,410
Any savings

1589
00:36:21,410 --> 00:36:22,353
occur during the

1590
00:36:22,353 --> 00:36:23,271
term of the contract, after

1591
00:36:23,271 --> 00:36:24,021
it is

1592
00:36:24,021 --> 00:36:24,697
put out to

1593
00:36:24,697 --> 00:36:25,655
tender. So, that

1594
00:36:25,655 --> 00:36:26,596
will reduce the amount of the

1595
00:36:26,596 --> 00:36:27,755
bond

1596
00:36:27,755 --> 00:36:28,913
eventually before we, you

1597
00:36:28,913 --> 00:36:30,108
know, get the

1598
00:36:30,108 --> 00:36:33,073
money. So, um, you know,

1599
00:36:33,073 --> 00:36:34,343
we... Another reason

1600
00:36:34,343 --> 00:36:35,691
we waited, well,

1601
00:36:35,691 --> 00:36:37,257
one of them is money.

1602
00:36:37,257 --> 00:36:37,669
We had

1603
00:36:37,669 --> 00:36:38,700
water projects

1604
00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:39,680
and other things to do, but

1605
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,917
we also have a

1606
00:36:40,943 --> 00:36:41,639
bond vote

1607
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:42,608
coming up. Uh, the

1608
00:36:42,608 --> 00:36:43,701
Church Street Bridge is

1609
00:36:43,701 --> 00:36:45,045
almost done. The city

1610
00:36:45,045 --> 00:36:46,309
hall is almost ready.

1611
00:36:46,309 --> 00:36:47,481
There is a water bond

1612
00:36:47,481 --> 00:36:48,651
that is almost ready.

1613
00:36:48,651 --> 00:36:49,956
So, the fire truck,

1614
00:36:49,956 --> 00:36:51,161
so one of the fire

1615
00:36:51,161 --> 00:36:52,437
trucks is almost ready.

1616
00:36:52,437 --> 00:36:53,494
So we

1617
00:36:53,494 --> 00:36:54,381
will of course look for

1618
00:36:54,381 --> 00:36:55,644
budget cuts

1619
00:36:55,644 --> 00:36:56,735
to offset

1620
00:36:56,735 --> 00:36:58,242
the price. At the moment,

1621
00:36:58,242 --> 00:36:58,916
this is the

1622
00:36:58,916 --> 00:36:59,831
highest level

1623
00:36:59,831 --> 00:37:00,722
we could reach, we have

1624
00:37:00,722 --> 00:37:01,493
gone as

1625
00:37:01,493 --> 00:37:02,408
far as

1626
00:37:02,408 --> 00:37:03,467
possible. So, just

1627
00:37:03,467 --> 00:37:04,677
wanted to let you know.

1628
00:37:04,677 --> 00:37:05,433
So, if you have

1629
00:37:05,433 --> 00:37:06,264
any questions about

1630
00:37:06,264 --> 00:37:07,247
this, I'll

1631
00:37:07,247 --> 00:37:08,230
answer them.

1632
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:09,067
Um, other than that, we'll

1633
00:37:09,067 --> 00:37:10,036
just move on to

1634
00:37:10,036 --> 00:37:10,586
signing the

1635
00:37:10,586 --> 00:37:11,463
documents. And you

1636
00:37:11,463 --> 00:37:12,318
will vote on

1637
00:37:12,318 --> 00:37:13,428
the bond on November 3rd

1638
00:37:13,428 --> 00:37:14,111
, when you

1639
00:37:14,111 --> 00:37:15,222
vote for

1640
00:37:15,222 --> 00:37:17,158
state offices, your

1641
00:37:17,187 --> 00:37:18,012
state ballot...to be

1642
00:37:18,012 --> 00:37:19,151
mailed to you,

1643
00:37:19,151 --> 00:37:20,290
but you will need to

1644
00:37:20,290 --> 00:37:21,059
vote

1645
00:37:21,059 --> 00:37:21,771
in person to

1646
00:37:21,771 --> 00:37:22,682
vote on the

1647
00:37:22,682 --> 00:37:23,451
bond, or

1648
00:37:23,451 --> 00:37:24,390
ask Pam for an

1649
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:26,538
absentee bond.

1650
00:37:26,538 --> 00:37:28,118
Justin, who's online?

1651
00:37:28,118 --> 00:37:29,307
Justin, okay.

1652
00:37:29,307 --> 00:37:30,557
Hello, Justin.

1653
00:37:30,557 --> 00:37:33,325
Hey, I'm just

1654
00:37:33,325 --> 00:37:34,135
glad we're

1655
00:37:34,135 --> 00:37:35,275
building this, whatever it is

1656
00:37:35,275 --> 00:37:36,205
, but I'm a little

1657
00:37:36,205 --> 00:37:37,375
concerned that

1658
00:37:37,375 --> 00:37:38,275
we don't have enough

1659
00:37:38,275 --> 00:37:38,815
money for the

1660
00:37:38,815 --> 00:37:39,865
contaminated soil

1661
00:37:39,865 --> 00:37:40,885
that will be under this

1662
00:37:40,885 --> 00:37:42,981
building. I actually

1663
00:37:42,981 --> 00:37:44,259
did a couple of garages

1664
00:37:44,259 --> 00:37:45,642
for the state, uh, we were

1665
00:37:45,642 --> 00:37:47,535
part of the projects.

1666
00:37:47,535 --> 00:37:48,694
Each time, it cost

1667
00:37:48,694 --> 00:37:49,508
over a million

1668
00:37:49,508 --> 00:37:50,761
dollars to remove the

1669
00:37:50,761 --> 00:37:51,858
contaminated soil,

1670
00:37:51,858 --> 00:37:52,892
transport it to

1671
00:37:52,892 --> 00:37:53,926
Coventry, bring in

1672
00:37:53,926 --> 00:37:54,709
new soil, and

1673
00:37:54,709 --> 00:37:55,837
re-compaction

1674
00:37:55,837 --> 00:37:57,114
it. And I mean, these are the

1675
00:37:57,114 --> 00:37:58,070
last two

1676
00:37:58,070 --> 00:37:59,234
jobs I've done

1677
00:37:59,234 --> 00:38:00,279
for the state, these are what

1678
00:38:00,279 --> 00:38:01,594
we had to do.

1679
00:38:01,594 --> 00:38:02,686
So a hundred, a hundred thousand

1680
00:38:02,686 --> 00:38:03,813
dollars is just not

1681
00:38:03,813 --> 00:38:04,735
enough to

1682
00:38:04,735 --> 00:38:05,486
take care of the

1683
00:38:05,486 --> 00:38:06,681
contaminated soil

1684
00:38:06,681 --> 00:38:07,500
that I almost

1685
00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:08,115
guarantee

1686
00:38:08,115 --> 00:38:09,446
is under this

1687
00:38:09,446 --> 00:38:10,778
building if it was a

1688
00:38:10,778 --> 00:38:12,041
city garage for 50, 60, 80

1689
00:38:12,041 --> 00:38:13,373
years, however long

1690
00:38:13,373 --> 00:38:14,771
it lived. there.

1691
00:38:14,771 --> 00:38:15,615
There's oil there, there's

1692
00:38:15,615 --> 00:38:16,655
all sorts of things that

1693
00:38:16,655 --> 00:38:17,726
have gone through this

1694
00:38:17,726 --> 00:38:18,993
concrete and are being absorbed

1695
00:38:18,993 --> 00:38:20,256
into this soil. And every

1696
00:38:20,256 --> 00:38:21,422
particle needs to be

1697
00:38:21,422 --> 00:38:22,781
gotten rid of. I

1698
00:38:22,781 --> 00:38:24,007
mean, I watched

1699
00:38:24,007 --> 00:38:25,034
...I don't even know

1700
00:38:25,034 --> 00:38:26,292
how many dump trucks...

1701
00:38:26,292 --> 00:38:27,551
it delayed the work for

1702
00:38:27,551 --> 00:38:28,876
probably about 9

1703
00:38:28,876 --> 00:38:30,002
months while they

1704
00:38:30,002 --> 00:38:31,294
took dump truck after dump

1705
00:38:31,294 --> 00:38:33,091
truck out of the facility.

1706
00:38:33,091 --> 00:38:33,998
Yes.

1707
00:38:33,998 --> 00:38:35,075
It could be a lot of

1708
00:38:35,075 --> 00:38:36,063
money, and I'm just

1709
00:38:36,063 --> 00:38:37,141
concerned that

1710
00:38:37,141 --> 00:38:38,278
we're just, you know,

1711
00:38:38,278 --> 00:38:39,446
it's going to be a lot of money

1712
00:38:39,446 --> 00:38:40,464
, let alone

1713
00:38:40,464 --> 00:38:41,716
building a building.

1714
00:38:41,716 --> 00:38:42,433
Yes. You are not

1715
00:38:42,433 --> 00:38:43,846
wrong. I

1716
00:38:43,846 --> 00:38:45,138
mean, it's...You're

1717
00:38:45,138 --> 00:38:46,229
right. There are some

1718
00:38:46,229 --> 00:38:48,452
unknowns. We

1719
00:38:48,452 --> 00:38:49,754
are going to do

1720
00:38:49,754 --> 00:38:50,926
some

1721
00:38:50,926 --> 00:38:52,248
soil testing. We know

1722
00:38:52,248 --> 00:38:53,495
we did this many

1723
00:38:53,495 --> 00:38:54,774
years ago when Gary

1724
00:38:54,774 --> 00:38:56,021
Slack was still a roadmaster

1725
00:38:56,021 --> 00:38:58,385
. We had a

1726
00:38:58,385 --> 00:38:59,624
leak in the tank and

1727
00:38:59,624 --> 00:39:00,418
we had...They

1728
00:39:00,418 --> 00:39:01,656
dug it out and they

1729
00:39:01,656 --> 00:39:02,355
did all the

1730
00:39:02,355 --> 00:39:03,562
soil tests

1731
00:39:03,562 --> 00:39:05,356
and took care of it. We

1732
00:39:05,356 --> 00:39:06,500
simply removed our

1733
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:07,674
underground tank

1734
00:39:07,674 --> 00:39:08,880
and tested it all

1735
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,281
. We didn't have any soil

1736
00:39:10,281 --> 00:39:11,484
that we had to

1737
00:39:11,484 --> 00:39:12,520
aerate or

1738
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,745
do anything with. with. The good thing for

1739
00:39:14,745 --> 00:39:15,762
us is that if there

1740
00:39:15,762 --> 00:39:16,660
was contaminated

1741
00:39:16,660 --> 00:39:17,588
soil there, we could

1742
00:39:17,588 --> 00:39:18,725
leave them in place

1743
00:39:18,725 --> 00:39:19,922
and cover them with a tarp

1744
00:39:19,922 --> 00:39:20,580
because we have

1745
00:39:20,580 --> 00:39:21,578
enough space there.

1746
00:39:21,578 --> 00:39:22,544
We might be able to

1747
00:39:22,544 --> 00:39:23,617
do that so we don't

1748
00:39:23,617 --> 00:39:24,637
have to take them to

1749
00:39:24,637 --> 00:39:25,710
Coventry, depending on

1750
00:39:25,710 --> 00:39:26,354
what they

1751
00:39:26,354 --> 00:39:27,320
find, of course,

1752
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,520
Justin. But it is

1753
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,161
certainly possible.

1754
00:39:32,161 --> 00:39:33,016
We tried to

1755
00:39:33,016 --> 00:39:33,741
remove all

1756
00:39:33,741 --> 00:39:35,057
obstacles, but yeah, we'll

1757
00:39:35,057 --> 00:39:36,374
find out, and, you know,

1758
00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:37,032
we'll just have

1759
00:39:37,032 --> 00:39:39,007
to...We'll have to

1760
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,237
deal with it. And if it

1761
00:39:41,237 --> 00:39:42,414
all works out that way, and if

1762
00:39:42,414 --> 00:39:43,282
we have to have a

1763
00:39:43,282 --> 00:39:44,986
second

1764
00:39:45,017 --> 00:39:46,256
bond vote or something else

1765
00:39:46,256 --> 00:39:47,464
happens, and this is what

1766
00:39:47,464 --> 00:39:49,568
will happen. But I'm going to be

1767
00:39:49,568 --> 00:39:50,337
cautious,

1768
00:39:50,337 --> 00:39:51,220
mostly

1769
00:39:51,220 --> 00:39:52,680
optimistic, and, um,

1770
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,024
but, um, but I appreciate

1771
00:39:54,024 --> 00:39:55,331
your thoughts, because yeah,

1772
00:39:55,331 --> 00:39:56,598
you know, we could

1773
00:39:56,598 --> 00:39:57,827
find Goff there,

1774
00:39:57,827 --> 00:40:00,298
Justin. I don't know.

1775
00:40:00,298 --> 00:40:03,245
So thank you, and that we will have

1776
00:40:03,245 --> 00:40:04,334
another

1777
00:40:04,334 --> 00:40:04,911
meeting with

1778
00:40:04,911 --> 00:40:05,872
the contractor soon, and I will

1779
00:40:05,872 --> 00:40:07,153
definitely have

1780
00:40:07,153 --> 00:40:08,468
this conversation with him. So

1781
00:40:08,468 --> 00:40:14,055
thank you.

1782
00:40:14,055 --> 00:40:14,959
Any other

1783
00:40:14,959 --> 00:40:15,683
comments,

1784
00:40:15,683 --> 00:40:16,544
suggestions?

1785
00:40:16,544 --> 00:40:17,657
Yes, you want me to

1786
00:40:17,657 --> 00:40:18,831
help you get

1787
00:40:18,831 --> 00:40:19,774
three and a half

1788
00:40:19,774 --> 00:40:20,630
million and still

1789
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:21,299
have...I started

1790
00:40:21,299 --> 00:40:22,048
saying we

1791
00:40:22,048 --> 00:40:22,904
could save a

1792
00:40:22,904 --> 00:40:23,406
million. It

1793
00:40:23,406 --> 00:40:24,826
will be so. It will be, I

1794
00:40:24,826 --> 00:40:26,138
was hoping I was

1795
00:40:26,138 --> 00:40:27,486
at level 2.8 and then I

1796
00:40:27,486 --> 00:40:28,692
posted a request for

1797
00:40:28,692 --> 00:40:30,004
proposals at level

1798
00:40:30,004 --> 00:40:31,488
2.1 and I knew which one?

1799
00:40:31,488 --> 00:40:34,034
2.8. And then it's just the

1800
00:40:34,034 --> 00:40:35,252
price. Honestly, it's

1801
00:40:35,252 --> 00:40:36,097
just the cost of

1802
00:40:36,097 --> 00:40:37,122
everything. Nothing will

1803
00:40:37,122 --> 00:40:38,357
be destroyed. Large

1804
00:40:38,357 --> 00:40:39,689
metal building. Um

1805
00:40:39,689 --> 00:40:40,957
, so we did one

1806
00:40:40,957 --> 00:40:41,691
of the things

1807
00:40:41,691 --> 00:40:42,820
Dave is looking at. I

1808
00:40:42,820 --> 00:40:43,730
gave him the data

1809
00:40:43,730 --> 00:40:44,828
today because

1810
00:40:44,828 --> 00:40:45,550
he works on

1811
00:40:45,550 --> 00:40:46,957
committees. Reduce what

1812
00:40:46,957 --> 00:40:48,126
we need

1813
00:40:48,126 --> 00:40:49,288
for the service. We

1814
00:40:49,288 --> 00:40:50,463
currently have 100

1815
00:40:50,463 --> 00:40:51,870
amp service. They were talking

1816
00:40:51,870 --> 00:40:53,183
about 400, 600, 800, you know,

1817
00:40:53,183 --> 00:40:54,641
can we reduce

1818
00:40:54,641 --> 00:40:55,516
that? And here's Dave

1819
00:40:55,516 --> 00:40:56,613
looking at it. The data

1820
00:40:56,613 --> 00:40:57,389
just came in

1821
00:40:57,389 --> 00:40:58,655
today. I think he

1822
00:40:58,655 --> 00:40:59,293
understood.

1823
00:40:59,293 --> 00:41:00,497
Yes, he understood.

1824
00:41:00,497 --> 00:41:00,868
Emm.

1825
00:41:00,868 --> 00:41:02,343
The other is CBES.

1826
00:41:02,343 --> 00:41:02,929
Yes.

1827
00:41:02,929 --> 00:41:04,260
We asked them and they

1828
00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:05,524
said yes, they

1829
00:41:05,524 --> 00:41:06,789
could use

1830
00:41:06,789 --> 00:41:07,920
CBES, but the governor

1831
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,686
said no.

1832
00:41:08,686 --> 00:41:10,136
Yes, that's right. That's another thing

1833
00:41:10,136 --> 00:41:11,347
we

1834
00:41:11,347 --> 00:41:12,020
talked about.

1835
00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:13,124
Yes, this is an energy

1836
00:41:13,124 --> 00:41:13,822
standard for

1837
00:41:13,822 --> 00:41:14,956
commercial buildings

1838
00:41:14,956 --> 00:41:16,090
, so this will be a topic for

1839
00:41:16,090 --> 00:41:17,863
discussion with them. And these are

1840
00:41:17,863 --> 00:41:19,137
obviously the numbers

1841
00:41:19,137 --> 00:41:20,481
they use,

1842
00:41:20,481 --> 00:41:21,721
from garages,

1843
00:41:21,721 --> 00:41:23,099
projects like this, or, you know,

1844
00:41:23,099 --> 00:41:24,304
talking to a few

1845
00:41:24,304 --> 00:41:26,177
contractors. The tender has

1846
00:41:26,177 --> 00:41:27,530
not yet been held. So

1847
00:41:27,530 --> 00:41:28,465
we hope

1848
00:41:28,465 --> 00:41:29,338
to see some

1849
00:41:29,338 --> 00:41:30,385
savings. And it's just like

1850
00:41:30,385 --> 00:41:31,385
we do with

1851
00:41:31,385 --> 00:41:32,414
all our other

1852
00:41:32,414 --> 00:41:33,664
bonds. It's 3.5, just like

1853
00:41:33,664 --> 00:41:34,684
when we did

1854
00:41:34,684 --> 00:41:36,011
water projects

1855
00:41:36,011 --> 00:41:37,202
, we do the same thing,

1856
00:41:37,202 --> 00:41:38,358
meaning the vote

1857
00:41:38,358 --> 00:41:39,447
says it

1858
00:41:39,447 --> 00:41:40,502
will be reduced

1859
00:41:40,502 --> 00:41:41,522
through, you know,

1860
00:41:41,522 --> 00:41:42,577
savings during the

1861
00:41:42,577 --> 00:41:43,699
project or other

1862
00:41:43,699 --> 00:41:44,841
funds. If someone

1863
00:41:44,841 --> 00:41:45,891
wants to donate,

1864
00:41:45,891 --> 00:41:46,761
you know, a million

1865
00:41:46,761 --> 00:41:47,780
dollars for us to

1866
00:41:47,780 --> 00:41:48,980
build a city

1867
00:41:48,980 --> 00:41:50,689
garage, we'll take it.

1868
00:41:50,689 --> 00:41:52,244
So, um, that's how we

1869
00:41:52,244 --> 00:41:53,623
got there. Basically,

1870
00:41:53,623 --> 00:41:54,622
you know, I was really wishing

1871
00:41:54,622 --> 00:41:55,747
for a

1872
00:41:55,747 --> 00:41:57,034
reality, to be honest.

1873
00:41:57,034 --> 00:41:57,725
And I was trying to

1874
00:41:57,725 --> 00:41:58,748
support 2.8, which I

1875
00:41:58,748 --> 00:41:59,771
think we can

1876
00:41:59,771 --> 00:42:00,849
afford, which we

1877
00:42:00,849 --> 00:42:01,928
can do, but I

1878
00:42:01,928 --> 00:42:02,730
can't, you know,

1879
00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:03,798
build it for...

1880
00:42:03,798 --> 00:42:05,041
And remind you, if we...

1881
00:42:05,041 --> 00:42:06,317
see

1882
00:42:06,317 --> 00:42:07,393
if you'll share,

1883
00:42:07,393 --> 00:42:08,669
for example... a table, but

1884
00:42:08,669 --> 00:42:09,812
it's sold out to 2.8,

1885
00:42:09,812 --> 00:42:11,122
or we don't have that

1886
00:42:11,122 --> 00:42:11,592
number.

1887
00:42:11,592 --> 00:42:12,914
I don't think so. No,

1888
00:42:12,914 --> 00:42:13,894
because I just

1889
00:42:13,894 --> 00:42:14,514
tried to

1890
00:42:14,514 --> 00:42:15,819
go back to that

1891
00:42:15,819 --> 00:42:16,995
to see what I

1892
00:42:16,995 --> 00:42:18,202
think we can

1893
00:42:18,202 --> 00:42:19,247
afford, and

1894
00:42:19,247 --> 00:42:20,357
then with the 3. you know, with

1895
00:42:20,357 --> 00:42:21,597
this 3.4 something, I

1896
00:42:21,597 --> 00:42:22,870
can't remember right now, but, um, I

1897
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:23,849
looked at his

1898
00:42:23,849 --> 00:42:24,535
numbers, Dave

1899
00:42:24,535 --> 00:42:25,514
looked at his

1900
00:42:25,514 --> 00:42:26,787
numbers, and obviously we're

1901
00:42:26,787 --> 00:42:27,603
hoping

1902
00:42:27,603 --> 00:42:28,517
to see some

1903
00:42:28,517 --> 00:42:29,725
savings because that's

1904
00:42:29,725 --> 00:42:30,639
just the upfront

1905
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:31,912
cost of construction

1906
00:42:31,912 --> 00:42:33,778
. So I wanted to have some

1907
00:42:33,778 --> 00:42:35,070
extra

1908
00:42:35,070 --> 00:42:36,290
wiggle room with my

1909
00:42:36,290 --> 00:42:37,223
budget, but

1910
00:42:37,223 --> 00:42:38,192
obviously I

1911
00:42:38,192 --> 00:42:39,376
like something,

1912
00:42:39,376 --> 00:42:41,386
hopefully I won't have to

1913
00:42:41,421 --> 00:42:42,785
spend a fortune, and, um, and

1914
00:42:42,785 --> 00:42:44,113
like I said, the things

1915
00:42:44,113 --> 00:42:45,333
that were in their

1916
00:42:45,333 --> 00:42:46,768
room were, um, they

1917
00:42:46,768 --> 00:42:48,060
had $30,000 in

1918
00:42:48,060 --> 00:42:49,705
legal fees. What

1919
00:42:49,705 --> 00:42:50,902
we do with it, I wouldn't

1920
00:42:50,902 --> 00:42:51,979
predict, and

1921
00:42:51,979 --> 00:42:53,232
I don't need to. And

1922
00:42:53,232 --> 00:42:54,143
this is an AIA contract, so

1923
00:42:54,143 --> 00:42:55,129
we're just going to

1924
00:42:55,129 --> 00:42:56,140
review it and not

1925
00:42:56,140 --> 00:42:57,221
waste any time. So, there are

1926
00:42:57,221 --> 00:42:58,041
some things that we're

1927
00:42:58,041 --> 00:42:59,035
removing, like

1928
00:42:59,035 --> 00:43:00,030
if we're, you know, a clerk of

1929
00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:00,999
works, we're not going to

1930
00:43:00,999 --> 00:43:01,894
pay for it through

1931
00:43:01,894 --> 00:43:03,129
bonds. We've been paying

1932
00:43:03,129 --> 00:43:04,156
for some of this

1933
00:43:04,156 --> 00:43:05,284
for 15 years.

1934
00:43:05,284 --> 00:43:06,352
So, have we seen a

1935
00:43:06,352 --> 00:43:07,793
breakdown of who...

1936
00:43:07,793 --> 00:43:10,123
No, probably not yet, no.

1937
00:43:10,123 --> 00:43:10,776
Data.

1938
00:43:10,776 --> 00:43:12,405
Yes, because yes, we

1939
00:43:12,405 --> 00:43:13,406
need data.

1940
00:43:13,406 --> 00:43:14,356
Yeah, about...Yeah,

1941
00:43:14,356 --> 00:43:15,179
that would certainly, yeah,

1942
00:43:15,179 --> 00:43:15,873
put that in the

1943
00:43:15,873 --> 00:43:16,900
next package and, um,

1944
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:17,851
well, and like I said,

1945
00:43:17,851 --> 00:43:18,725
they were all just

1946
00:43:18,725 --> 00:43:19,599
preliminary, and, um,

1947
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:20,447
but we obviously

1948
00:43:20,447 --> 00:43:21,115
needed to

1949
00:43:21,115 --> 00:43:21,809
move forward,

1950
00:43:21,809 --> 00:43:22,451
obviously we

1951
00:43:22,451 --> 00:43:23,325
need to move

1952
00:43:23,325 --> 00:43:24,482
forward with the

1953
00:43:24,507 --> 00:43:25,491
bond vote. Once

1954
00:43:25,491 --> 00:43:26,193
it is passed

1955
00:43:26,193 --> 00:43:27,028
they will be able to

1956
00:43:27,028 --> 00:43:27,687
afford it, we can't

1957
00:43:27,687 --> 00:43:28,499
let them

1958
00:43:28,499 --> 00:43:29,333
start until we

1959
00:43:29,333 --> 00:43:30,307
have the money. So it's kind of

1960
00:43:30,307 --> 00:43:31,609
, you know, how the

1961
00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:33,213
process goes. Do

1962
00:43:33,313 --> 00:43:34,442
you really have other

1963
00:43:34,442 --> 00:43:35,774
numbers on this matter?

1964
00:43:35,774 --> 00:43:36,995
No, I need to

1965
00:43:36,995 --> 00:43:38,585
know, I know I have to.

1966
00:43:38,585 --> 00:43:39,256
honestly,

1967
00:43:39,256 --> 00:43:39,873
keep

1968
00:43:39,873 --> 00:43:40,866
selling these assets

1969
00:43:40,866 --> 00:43:41,886
for $3.5, I

1970
00:43:41,886 --> 00:43:42,799
mean I can't

1971
00:43:42,799 --> 00:43:43,846
say that's

1972
00:43:43,846 --> 00:43:44,952
good enough. I mean

1973
00:43:44,952 --> 00:43:45,860
...Okay, so I

1974
00:43:45,860 --> 00:43:46,712
trust you, I'll buy the

1975
00:43:46,712 --> 00:43:47,182
assets.

1976
00:43:47,182 --> 00:43:48,062
Yes, I'm just saying that

1977
00:43:48,062 --> 00:43:48,942
because we need

1978
00:43:48,942 --> 00:43:49,506
them

1979
00:43:49,506 --> 00:43:50,183
signed right

1980
00:43:50,183 --> 00:43:51,672
now to move to the

1981
00:43:51,694 --> 00:43:52,191
bond vote in

1982
00:43:52,191 --> 00:43:55,117
November. 3rd. Um, there's a

1983
00:43:55,117 --> 00:43:56,022
legislative

1984
00:43:56,022 --> 00:43:57,280
process that we

1985
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,421
have to go through,

1986
00:43:58,421 --> 00:43:59,994
how many weeks does this have to

1987
00:43:59,994 --> 00:44:01,449
take, um, how many

1988
00:44:01,449 --> 00:44:02,982
weeks does this have to take

1989
00:44:02,982 --> 00:44:04,005
, um, what you, uh,

1990
00:44:04,005 --> 00:44:05,499
notice and all that stuff

1991
00:44:05,499 --> 00:44:07,711
, and what

1992
00:44:07,711 --> 00:44:08,599
you're asking is to

1993
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:09,965
put it all on

1994
00:44:09,965 --> 00:44:10,615
Dave's shoulders to

1995
00:44:10,615 --> 00:44:12,354
review... Well,

1996
00:44:12,354 --> 00:44:13,635
we just looked at the

1997
00:44:13,635 --> 00:44:15,021
preliminary cost, and

1998
00:44:15,021 --> 00:44:16,094
you're... Sorry, I didn't

1999
00:44:16,094 --> 00:44:17,411
include that in your

2000
00:44:17,411 --> 00:44:18,661
package... Um,

2001
00:44:18,661 --> 00:44:19,789
I'm not trying to be

2002
00:44:19,789 --> 00:44:20,735
complicated, but...

2003
00:44:20,735 --> 00:44:21,486
No, I'm just not

2004
00:44:21,486 --> 00:44:22,182
sure what

2005
00:44:22,182 --> 00:44:23,268
would change if you

2006
00:44:23,268 --> 00:44:23,897
saw that...

2007
00:44:23,897 --> 00:44:24,846
I think it would still

2008
00:44:24,846 --> 00:44:25,848
go to a vote,

2009
00:44:25,848 --> 00:44:26,582
people could...

2010
00:44:26,582 --> 00:44:27,135
It would still go to a vote

2011
00:44:27,135 --> 00:44:27,925
, and we

2012
00:44:27,925 --> 00:44:28,816
could... Sorry.

2013
00:44:28,816 --> 00:44:29,650
I have to

2014
00:44:29,650 --> 00:44:30,777
approve this again. I don't want to

2015
00:44:30,777 --> 00:44:31,879
go back.

2016
00:44:31,879 --> 00:44:32,909
No, and essentially the only thing

2017
00:44:32,909 --> 00:44:33,717
you're doing is

2018
00:44:33,717 --> 00:44:34,608
allowing this to

2019
00:44:34,608 --> 00:44:35,666
move forward to

2020
00:44:35,666 --> 00:44:36,797
go to a vote.

2021
00:44:36,797 --> 00:44:37,487
Right.

2022
00:44:37,487 --> 00:44:38,614
So we can...I

2023
00:44:38,614 --> 00:44:39,742
certainly plan to

2024
00:44:39,742 --> 00:44:41,197
publish, you know,

2025
00:44:41,197 --> 00:44:42,330
all the data. We

2026
00:44:42,330 --> 00:44:43,547
published everything. I...

2027
00:44:43,547 --> 00:44:44,920
Sorry, I didn't include

2028
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,258
that in your package...

2029
00:44:46,258 --> 00:44:47,526
Um... And, uh, but like we

2030
00:44:47,526 --> 00:44:48,653
said, if... This is

2031
00:44:48,653 --> 00:44:49,639
just the upfront

2032
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:51,012
cost of construction

2033
00:44:51,012 --> 00:44:52,033
, just like we would

2034
00:44:52,033 --> 00:44:53,195
see government

2035
00:44:53,195 --> 00:44:53,900
spending on

2036
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:55,273
building a wall or

2037
00:44:55,273 --> 00:44:57,534
something. So,

2038
00:44:57,534 --> 00:44:58,666
Dave and I had

2039
00:44:58,666 --> 00:44:59,830
one meeting with them

2040
00:44:59,830 --> 00:45:01,654
when Dave wasn't there. And

2041
00:45:01,654 --> 00:45:02,910
then, as soon as they

2042
00:45:02,910 --> 00:45:04,165
go out to tender, they are

2043
00:45:04,165 --> 00:45:05,198
eliminated. We'll

2044
00:45:05,198 --> 00:45:06,342
see, you know,

2045
00:45:06,342 --> 00:45:07,737
what the cost will be, and

2046
00:45:07,737 --> 00:45:09,060
we can certainly

2047
00:45:09,060 --> 00:45:12,911
include all of that in there.

2048
00:45:12,911 --> 00:45:14,149
So, if you're not

2049
00:45:14,149 --> 00:45:17,404
okay with that, then we...

2050
00:45:17,404 --> 00:45:18,189
Basically,

2051
00:45:18,189 --> 00:45:18,952
well, I need to have a

2052
00:45:18,952 --> 00:45:19,859
special

2053
00:45:19,859 --> 00:45:20,975
meeting. I'm trying to

2054
00:45:20,975 --> 00:45:22,002
think because I have to...

2055
00:45:22,002 --> 00:45:22,930
It's basically not

2056
00:45:22,930 --> 00:45:23,756
to exceed.

2057
00:45:23,756 --> 00:45:25,023
That's exactly right. This should not

2058
00:45:25,023 --> 00:45:25,966
be exceeded.

2059
00:45:25,966 --> 00:45:27,074
That's fair.

2060
00:45:27,074 --> 00:45:27,465
Yes.

2061
00:45:27,465 --> 00:45:28,094
It's not...

2062
00:45:28,094 --> 00:45:29,332
I mean, I know

2063
00:45:29,332 --> 00:45:30,509
it's not very cheap

2064
00:45:30,509 --> 00:45:31,377
and you're doing your

2065
00:45:31,377 --> 00:45:32,554
best, but I just

2066
00:45:32,554 --> 00:45:34,097
...

2067
00:45:34,097 --> 00:45:36,532
Yeah. That's right, that...

2068
00:45:36,532 --> 00:45:38,000
Yeah, yeah, it's obviously

2069
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,212
the building itself, I

2070
00:45:39,212 --> 00:45:40,681
can tell you that, because I

2071
00:45:40,681 --> 00:45:42,149
remember it, and I guess

2072
00:45:42,149 --> 00:45:43,492
Dave does too. The

2073
00:45:43,492 --> 00:45:45,195
building itself...was over...

2074
00:45:45,195 --> 00:45:46,461
2.8 and some changes

2075
00:45:46,461 --> 00:45:48,164
just for the metal

2076
00:45:48,164 --> 00:45:50,121
building. They had...And

2077
00:45:50,121 --> 00:45:50,954
remember, these

2078
00:45:50,954 --> 00:45:51,787
costs...He...

2079
00:45:51,787 --> 00:45:53,069
talked to one or

2080
00:45:53,069 --> 00:45:54,094
two metal

2081
00:45:54,094 --> 00:45:55,216
buildings because,

2082
00:45:55,216 --> 00:45:56,434
again, this is just the

2083
00:45:56,434 --> 00:45:57,587
upfront cost of

2084
00:45:57,587 --> 00:45:58,425
construction.

2085
00:45:58,425 --> 00:45:59,808
This is not built. 2.8

2086
00:45:59,808 --> 00:46:01,812
for the building only. Is that

2087
00:46:01,812 --> 00:46:02,475
correct?

2088
00:46:02,475 --> 00:46:04,465
2.8 per building. No, and

2089
00:46:04,465 --> 00:46:05,404
it was built,

2090
00:46:05,404 --> 00:46:06,203
but it...Sorry,

2091
00:46:06,203 --> 00:46:07,119
built, but it

2092
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:08,249
wasn't a project. It wasn't,

2093
00:46:08,249 --> 00:46:09,307
um, and then he

2094
00:46:09,307 --> 00:46:10,178
had other things

2095
00:46:10,178 --> 00:46:11,088
included in there.

2096
00:46:11,088 --> 00:46:12,682
This is plumbing. This...This is the

2097
00:46:12,682 --> 00:46:14,152
building that...This is the

2098
00:46:14,152 --> 00:46:15,220
building that...

2099
00:46:15,220 --> 00:46:16,569
But this is not engineering.

2100
00:46:16,569 --> 00:46:17,970
This is not a project. This is not

2101
00:46:17,970 --> 00:46:18,602
permission.

2102
00:46:18,602 --> 00:46:20,369
This is 24,000 that we have to

2103
00:46:20,369 --> 00:46:22,968
pay to the state. It

2104
00:46:22,968 --> 00:46:24,144
wasn't the 30 he

2105
00:46:24,144 --> 00:46:25,393
allocated to, um, which

2106
00:46:25,393 --> 00:46:26,826
he allocated to, um, like

2107
00:46:26,826 --> 00:46:27,487
pork in

2108
00:46:27,487 --> 00:46:30,238
construction. It

2109
00:46:30,238 --> 00:46:31,726
wasn't, um, you know,

2110
00:46:31,726 --> 00:46:33,441
he was 30. He

2111
00:46:33,441 --> 00:46:35,246
had money for lawyers

2112
00:46:35,246 --> 00:46:37,272
and this and that. So, again

2113
00:46:37,272 --> 00:46:38,601
, it's not...So we

2114
00:46:38,601 --> 00:46:40,045
can certainly, um, you

2115
00:46:40,045 --> 00:46:40,766
know, you'll

2116
00:46:40,766 --> 00:46:42,134
meet with...and

2117
00:46:42,134 --> 00:46:43,007
you'll have all the

2118
00:46:43,007 --> 00:46:44,437
information and...everything.

2119
00:46:44,437 --> 00:46:45,476
So, it's just like any

2120
00:46:45,476 --> 00:46:46,710
other

2121
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:48,037
bond move. That's four

2122
00:46:48,037 --> 00:46:49,459
people to sign.

2123
00:46:49,459 --> 00:46:50,593
This is not to be exceeded, and

2124
00:46:50,593 --> 00:46:51,641
it does not mean that it

2125
00:46:51,641 --> 00:46:52,725
will be accepted. Your

2126
00:46:52,725 --> 00:46:55,218
vote will be counted.

2127
00:46:55,218 --> 00:46:55,649
So

2128
00:46:55,649 --> 00:46:56,931
I just wouldn't want to be

2129
00:46:56,955 --> 00:46:57,923
accused of being a

2130
00:46:57,923 --> 00:46:58,867
nonsense here

2131
00:46:58,867 --> 00:46:59,805
. That's all.

2132
00:46:59,805 --> 00:47:00,936
You don't accuse

2133
00:47:00,936 --> 00:47:02,006
because you don't know if it will be

2134
00:47:02,006 --> 00:47:03,333
accepted or not. And

2135
00:47:03,333 --> 00:47:04,283
we have a probable

2136
00:47:04,283 --> 00:47:05,519
construction cost

2137
00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:06,185
that we will have to

2138
00:47:06,185 --> 00:47:07,389
move

2139
00:47:07,389 --> 00:47:08,657
forward with, regardless of whether

2140
00:47:08,657 --> 00:47:09,576
it is

2141
00:47:09,576 --> 00:47:12,052
accepted. And that number,

2142
00:47:12,052 --> 00:47:13,361
you know, obviously, we're

2143
00:47:13,361 --> 00:47:14,777
hoping that it will

2144
00:47:14,777 --> 00:47:16,192
change, especially with

2145
00:47:16,192 --> 00:47:17,395
some local

2146
00:47:17,395 --> 00:47:18,563
contractors

2147
00:47:18,563 --> 00:47:19,730
bidding on

2148
00:47:19,730 --> 00:47:21,110
some of the work, but it's...

2149
00:47:21,110 --> 00:47:22,809
So we can...um...I would be

2150
00:47:23,429 --> 00:47:24,190
willing to go to a

2151
00:47:24,190 --> 00:47:25,240
special meeting, and

2152
00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:26,238
I would set aside more time

2153
00:47:26,238 --> 00:47:27,105
in the afternoon to go to a

2154
00:47:27,105 --> 00:47:28,076
special meeting

2155
00:47:28,076 --> 00:47:29,048
if everyone felt more

2156
00:47:29,048 --> 00:47:29,752
comfortable.

2157
00:47:29,752 --> 00:47:31,205
Of course. Absolutely.

2158
00:47:31,205 --> 00:47:32,308
We can...We can

2159
00:47:32,308 --> 00:47:32,989
do it.

2160
00:47:32,989 --> 00:47:33,517
Thank you for

2161
00:47:33,517 --> 00:47:34,518
calling.

2162
00:47:34,518 --> 00:47:35,546
I think it would be a good

2163
00:47:35,546 --> 00:47:36,524
idea

2164
00:47:36,524 --> 00:47:37,010
to describe it well as well.

2165
00:47:37,010 --> 00:47:37,703
then, if we do

2166
00:47:37,703 --> 00:47:38,604
n't do that, we'll have

2167
00:47:38,604 --> 00:47:39,298
to...We

2168
00:47:39,298 --> 00:47:40,223
need to...We have to...I

2169
00:47:40,223 --> 00:47:41,109
think I'm going to...

2170
00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:41,912
We have to...

2171
00:47:41,912 --> 00:47:42,761
vote on this

2172
00:47:42,761 --> 00:47:43,343
proposal first.

2173
00:47:43,343 --> 00:47:44,535
for a second. Let

2174
00:47:44,535 --> 00:47:45,222
me just...

2175
00:47:45,222 --> 00:47:45,992
We need to have a

2176
00:47:45,992 --> 00:47:46,723
landfill.

2177
00:47:46,723 --> 00:47:47,565
If no one else

2178
00:47:47,565 --> 00:47:48,455
goes this route, then

2179
00:47:48,455 --> 00:47:48,626
...

2180
00:47:48,626 --> 00:47:49,798
Okay, I said it

2181
00:47:49,798 --> 00:47:51,085
right here, the current

2182
00:47:51,085 --> 00:47:52,484
rating for the city

2183
00:47:52,484 --> 00:47:53,695
garage is

2184
00:47:53,695 --> 00:47:56,288
3.469658. That's why I'm looking for

2185
00:47:56,288 --> 00:47:59,181
3.5. And then, um, we... And

2186
00:47:59,181 --> 00:48:00,483
then, um, I'm just

2187
00:48:00,483 --> 00:48:01,823
trying to remember,

2188
00:48:01,823 --> 00:48:03,317
because the law requires that

2189
00:48:03,317 --> 00:48:04,810
we publish

2190
00:48:04,810 --> 00:48:12,601
it X days in advance. And

2191
00:48:12,601 --> 00:48:14,007
anyway, we

2192
00:48:14,007 --> 00:48:15,413
can postpone it

2193
00:48:15,413 --> 00:48:16,857
and then...And I'll do it

2194
00:48:16,857 --> 00:48:18,041
, or whatever,

2195
00:48:18,041 --> 00:48:19,336
if you don't have...We

2196
00:48:19,336 --> 00:48:20,506
have a proposal before us

2197
00:48:20,535 --> 00:48:21,566
that we

2198
00:48:21,566 --> 00:48:22,715
can vote on

2199
00:48:22,715 --> 00:48:23,805
, we can move

2200
00:48:23,805 --> 00:48:26,135
on. We don't...I

2201
00:48:26,135 --> 00:48:27,281
mean, we'll see

2202
00:48:27,281 --> 00:48:28,156
all these numbers.

2203
00:48:28,156 --> 00:48:29,141
You will see, and they

2204
00:48:29,141 --> 00:48:30,267
will all change, even

2205
00:48:30,267 --> 00:48:30,424
from the

2206
00:48:30,424 --> 00:48:31,580
other side, say

2207
00:48:31,580 --> 00:48:32,648
it's not so bad,

2208
00:48:32,648 --> 00:48:33,805
maybe not too much

2209
00:48:33,805 --> 00:48:35,027
. What if this...What

2210
00:48:35,027 --> 00:48:35,670
if this isn't

2211
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:37,759
enough? And this is a

2212
00:48:37,794 --> 00:48:38,573
bond vote.

2213
00:48:38,573 --> 00:48:39,829
We won't know if

2214
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:41,187
it's not enough until

2215
00:48:41,187 --> 00:48:42,546
November 3rd when the bond

2216
00:48:42,546 --> 00:48:43,904
vote is taken

2217
00:48:43,904 --> 00:48:45,229
because

2218
00:48:45,229 --> 00:48:45,942
we...they're not

2219
00:48:45,942 --> 00:48:47,232
going to move

2220
00:48:47,232 --> 00:48:48,047
forward until we

2221
00:48:48,047 --> 00:48:49,270
know...We have the

2222
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:50,595
money because we can't

2223
00:48:50,595 --> 00:48:52,473
. I mean, I

2224
00:48:52,473 --> 00:48:53,656
can pay for

2225
00:48:53,656 --> 00:48:54,947
certain things up front,

2226
00:48:54,947 --> 00:48:56,381
asbestos testing,

2227
00:48:56,381 --> 00:48:57,815
soil testing, etc., but I do

2228
00:48:57,815 --> 00:48:59,177
n't have, you know, I

2229
00:48:59,177 --> 00:49:00,323
have 100 grand. I do

2230
00:49:00,323 --> 00:49:01,626
n't have millions. So

2231
00:49:01,626 --> 00:49:02,777
they won't even

2232
00:49:02,777 --> 00:49:04,705
do anything until the

2233
00:49:04,734 --> 00:49:06,680
bond vote passes. Once the

2234
00:49:06,709 --> 00:49:07,662
bond vote is

2235
00:49:07,662 --> 00:49:08,443
passed, they'll

2236
00:49:08,443 --> 00:49:09,540
publish, you know,

2237
00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:10,696
to get quotes from

2238
00:49:10,696 --> 00:49:11,592
contractors, to

2239
00:49:11,592 --> 00:49:12,747
get some solid numbers,

2240
00:49:12,747 --> 00:49:13,628
um, roughly...

2241
00:49:13,628 --> 00:49:14,628
Okay, some of these

2242
00:49:14,628 --> 00:49:15,628
things have a pretty

2243
00:49:15,628 --> 00:49:16,485
long

2244
00:49:16,485 --> 00:49:17,733
lead time. You want

2245
00:49:17,733 --> 00:49:18,623
this thing

2246
00:49:18,623 --> 00:49:19,736
built in one

2247
00:49:19,736 --> 00:49:20,913
construction period,

2248
00:49:20,913 --> 00:49:22,153
we have to get started

2249
00:49:22,153 --> 00:49:23,581
. This should be in

2250
00:49:23,581 --> 00:49:25,905
progress. So, this...

2251
00:49:25,905 --> 00:49:26,587
is no

2252
00:49:26,587 --> 00:49:27,693
different from

2253
00:49:27,693 --> 00:49:28,962
how we did the, uh

2254
00:49:28,962 --> 00:49:30,311
, project. We did a

2255
00:49:30,311 --> 00:49:31,454
sidewalk project

2256
00:49:31,454 --> 00:49:32,939
costing $740,000

2257
00:49:32,939 --> 00:49:34,434
. And it was the same. We

2258
00:49:34,434 --> 00:49:35,463
did exactly that for

2259
00:49:35,463 --> 00:49:36,547
all those same water

2260
00:49:36,547 --> 00:49:38,324
projects. They all

2261
00:49:38,324 --> 00:49:40,737
cost 2.5, 2.8.

2262
00:49:40,737 --> 00:49:42,360
They were all estimated

2263
00:49:42,386 --> 00:49:43,343
construction costs. And if that's what

2264
00:49:43,343 --> 00:49:43,895
we

2265
00:49:43,895 --> 00:49:44,447
voted for

2266
00:49:44,447 --> 00:49:45,041
the bonds with, and not

2267
00:49:45,041 --> 00:49:45,806
to exceed that, it

2268
00:49:45,806 --> 00:49:46,655
can be reduced by

2269
00:49:46,655 --> 00:49:47,355
any

2270
00:49:47,355 --> 00:49:47,971
aid or...

2271
00:49:47,971 --> 00:49:48,913
whatever. So, we

2272
00:49:48,913 --> 00:49:49,944
did the same thing.

2273
00:49:49,944 --> 00:49:50,938
Regarding grants and

2274
00:49:50,938 --> 00:49:51,932
stuff, right? We

2275
00:49:51,932 --> 00:49:53,012
provide grants and

2276
00:49:53,012 --> 00:49:54,437
more or less do it,

2277
00:49:54,437 --> 00:49:55,423
but we didn't know

2278
00:49:55,423 --> 00:49:56,987
how much. Of course, 2.8

2279
00:49:56,987 --> 00:49:58,623
...we didn't know exactly

2280
00:49:58,623 --> 00:49:59,723
how many we...

2281
00:49:59,723 --> 00:50:00,767
I would say maybe

2282
00:50:00,767 --> 00:50:01,870
just vote

2283
00:50:01,870 --> 00:50:02,885
and see how it

2284
00:50:02,885 --> 00:50:03,785
goes before you

2285
00:50:03,785 --> 00:50:04,858
even go down that

2286
00:50:04,858 --> 00:50:07,231
road.

2287
00:50:07,231 --> 00:50:08,637
Good. Firstly,

2288
00:50:08,637 --> 00:50:09,810
because these numbers, I

2289
00:50:09,810 --> 00:50:10,635
mean, they

2290
00:50:10,635 --> 00:50:11,871
shouldn't exceed

2291
00:50:11,871 --> 00:50:12,067
...

2292
00:50:12,067 --> 00:50:12,930
Yeah.

2293
00:50:12,930 --> 00:50:13,915
So, if we don't

2294
00:50:13,915 --> 00:50:14,798
start, we're not

2295
00:50:14,798 --> 00:50:15,749
going to...We're

2296
00:50:15,749 --> 00:50:17,368
not going to get anywhere.

2297
00:50:17,368 --> 00:50:21,243
Yes. Good.

2298
00:50:21,243 --> 00:50:22,490
So, we have to

2299
00:50:22,490 --> 00:50:23,903
achieve this. That's

2300
00:50:23,903 --> 00:50:24,764
it.

2301
00:50:24,764 --> 00:50:26,122
makes me nervous, but I

2302
00:50:26,122 --> 00:50:27,445
know it's all a bluff,

2303
00:50:27,445 --> 00:50:28,153
right?

2304
00:50:28,153 --> 00:50:30,068
This is all a bluff.

2305
00:50:30,068 --> 00:50:31,006
Yes, we don't have

2306
00:50:31,006 --> 00:50:32,268
grant money, and

2307
00:50:32,268 --> 00:50:33,498
we have, as I said,

2308
00:50:33,498 --> 00:50:34,696
I have allocated about

2309
00:50:34,696 --> 00:50:36,016
100,000 in capital. So, it all

2310
00:50:36,016 --> 00:50:37,287
depends on us, and it

2311
00:50:37,287 --> 00:50:38,494
always had to be up to

2312
00:50:38,494 --> 00:50:42,033
us. You know, so we...And

2313
00:50:42,033 --> 00:50:43,453
we knew that...It's...60

2314
00:50:43,453 --> 00:50:44,998
cents on the tax

2315
00:50:44,998 --> 00:50:47,946
rate. This is not going away

2316
00:50:47,946 --> 00:50:49,716
. That would be less

2317
00:50:49,716 --> 00:50:51,475
than, you know, it seems like,

2318
00:50:51,475 --> 00:50:54,642
63 cents a day for a

2319
00:50:54,686 --> 00:50:56,767
$350,000 house. So, um, but

2320
00:50:56,767 --> 00:50:58,093
obviously we're going to be

2321
00:50:58,093 --> 00:50:59,124
looking at, you know,

2322
00:50:59,124 --> 00:51:00,487
budget cuts

2323
00:51:00,487 --> 00:51:03,912
to cover that. We have

2324
00:51:03,912 --> 00:51:04,931
everything we

2325
00:51:04,931 --> 00:51:06,097
talked about, and it's also

2326
00:51:06,097 --> 00:51:08,691
hard to wait. We have a

2327
00:51:08,691 --> 00:51:09,412
tight deadline

2328
00:51:09,412 --> 00:51:10,253
because...I actually

2329
00:51:10,253 --> 00:51:10,830
think we

2330
00:51:10,830 --> 00:51:11,792
need...If you don't

2331
00:51:11,792 --> 00:51:12,754
need to sign

2332
00:51:12,754 --> 00:51:13,667
this tonight,

2333
00:51:13,667 --> 00:51:14,340
we'll have to have

2334
00:51:14,340 --> 00:51:15,254
, like, a

2335
00:51:15,254 --> 00:51:16,167
special emergency

2336
00:51:16,167 --> 00:51:16,816
meeting, and you

2337
00:51:16,816 --> 00:51:17,706
might have to

2338
00:51:17,706 --> 00:51:18,595
sign this in 2

2339
00:51:18,595 --> 00:51:19,485
days because there are

2340
00:51:19,485 --> 00:51:20,014
very strict

2341
00:51:20,014 --> 00:51:20,927
standards on

2342
00:51:20,927 --> 00:51:21,432
how often that

2343
00:51:21,432 --> 00:51:22,394
happens, you know,

2344
00:51:22,394 --> 00:51:22,995
in this

2345
00:51:22,995 --> 00:51:25,585
surety room. So, um,

2346
00:51:25,585 --> 00:51:27,774
but...Okay, that's right

2347
00:51:27,774 --> 00:51:28,990
. So,

2348
00:51:28,990 --> 00:51:29,987
I don't know, so

2349
00:51:29,987 --> 00:51:31,064
anyway, and that's it, and

2350
00:51:31,064 --> 00:51:31,737
it shouldn't

2351
00:51:31,737 --> 00:51:32,726
exceed, and that's

2352
00:51:32,726 --> 00:51:33,990
Chris, it's the same,

2353
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:34,973
yeah, and that's the same

2354
00:51:34,973 --> 00:51:35,668
way we've been

2355
00:51:35,668 --> 00:51:36,593
moving forward...

2356
00:51:36,593 --> 00:51:37,172
every other

2357
00:51:37,172 --> 00:51:38,212
vote. We

2358
00:51:38,212 --> 00:51:39,281
always had a probable

2359
00:51:39,281 --> 00:51:40,378
construction cost

2360
00:51:40,378 --> 00:51:41,366
and we did, you know,

2361
00:51:41,366 --> 00:51:42,712
not to exceed it. So,

2362
00:51:42,712 --> 00:51:43,247
Chris,

2363
00:51:43,247 --> 00:51:54,321
similar thought.

2364
00:51:54,321 --> 00:51:55,511
Yes, it should be like that,

2365
00:51:55,511 --> 00:51:56,734
but we should also

2366
00:51:56,734 --> 00:51:57,797
publish it in the

2367
00:51:57,797 --> 00:51:59,186
official gazette. It

2368
00:51:59,186 --> 00:52:02,411
has to be far away, it

2369
00:52:02,411 --> 00:52:03,560
has to be, you know,

2370
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:04,858
X number of weeks

2371
00:52:04,858 --> 00:52:06,341
in advance, it has to be in the

2372
00:52:06,341 --> 00:52:07,541
newspaper. But, you know,

2373
00:52:07,541 --> 00:52:08,580
like I said, it's not a

2374
00:52:08,580 --> 00:52:09,674
big deal, I can

2375
00:52:09,674 --> 00:52:10,545
research all this

2376
00:52:10,545 --> 00:52:12,141
tomorrow. Okay, or me.

2377
00:52:12,141 --> 00:52:13,380
Sounds like

2378
00:52:13,380 --> 00:52:14,513
you have all three days,

2379
00:52:14,513 --> 00:52:15,788
maybe I'll see you

2380
00:52:15,788 --> 00:52:16,693
later.

2381
00:52:16,693 --> 00:52:17,531
We received

2382
00:52:17,531 --> 00:52:19,055
an offer, and one more thing, is there any

2383
00:52:19,055 --> 00:52:22,780
further discussion?

2384
00:52:22,780 --> 00:52:23,768
Everyone who is "in favor"

2385
00:52:23,768 --> 00:52:25,311
indicates by saying "I am

2386
00:52:25,311 --> 00:52:29,167
." I. Against or "no".

2387
00:52:29,167 --> 00:52:30,424
Okay, the offer

2388
00:52:30,424 --> 00:52:33,612
is accepted.

2389
00:52:33,612 --> 00:52:36,775
Perfectly. No. Everything is fine

2390
00:52:36,775 --> 00:52:41,413
. Everything is fine.

2391
00:52:41,413 --> 00:52:43,254
Yes, absolutely not, that

2392
00:52:43,254 --> 00:52:44,275
makes sense.

2393
00:52:44,275 --> 00:52:45,981
You have all the documents in the

2394
00:52:45,981 --> 00:52:46,694
folder.

2395
00:52:46,694 --> 00:52:48,184
I have all the things, yes,

2396
00:52:48,184 --> 00:52:49,675
you have and I had, yes,

2397
00:52:49,675 --> 00:52:50,818
I had, but yes.

2398
00:52:50,818 --> 00:52:52,221
But it's still better now that

2399
00:52:52,221 --> 00:52:53,203
you know,

2400
00:52:53,203 --> 00:52:55,359
trust me, you will too.

2401
00:52:55,359 --> 00:52:56,765
Yeah, oh, and so I put the

2402
00:52:56,765 --> 00:52:58,094
project milestones in here, that's

2403
00:52:58,094 --> 00:52:59,054
all.

2404
00:52:59,054 --> 00:53:00,590
Yes, it was in the package.

2405
00:53:00,590 --> 00:53:01,583
So okay, you

2406
00:53:01,583 --> 00:53:03,527
need to sign.

2407
00:53:03,527 --> 00:53:04,124
Here.

2408
00:53:04,124 --> 00:53:05,475
I'll just give you...

2409
00:53:05,475 --> 00:53:06,057
Okay.

2410
00:53:06,057 --> 00:53:07,116
Because you need to

2411
00:53:07,116 --> 00:53:09,416
sign this. From this

2412
00:53:09,416 --> 00:53:14,097
side. So yeah, so I'll

2413
00:53:14,097 --> 00:53:15,507
sign this together so

2414
00:53:15,507 --> 00:53:18,277
everyone can sign.

2415
00:53:18,277 --> 00:53:21,323
So...Excuse me, did you have

2416
00:53:21,323 --> 00:53:34,547
a question? Yes,

2417
00:53:34,547 --> 00:53:35,772
of course, and then we

2418
00:53:35,772 --> 00:53:36,998
did it...that's what

2419
00:53:36,998 --> 00:53:38,360
we talked about, and also I

2420
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,415
wanted to do it

2421
00:53:39,415 --> 00:53:40,300
in advance and

2422
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:41,628
pay for it with that money

2423
00:53:41,628 --> 00:53:42,445
, and also, uh,

2424
00:53:42,445 --> 00:53:43,963
asbestos removal. And

2425
00:53:43,963 --> 00:53:44,651
they were looking for

2426
00:53:44,651 --> 00:53:45,901
contractors to

2427
00:53:45,901 --> 00:53:47,198
give me names. They

2428
00:53:47,198 --> 00:53:48,359
already did the research

2429
00:53:48,359 --> 00:53:49,520
to get the numbers

2430
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,749
because I said so too.

2431
00:53:50,749 --> 00:53:52,354
Let's use the 100

2432
00:53:52,354 --> 00:53:53,638
grand to, you know,

2433
00:53:53,638 --> 00:53:55,203
hopefully, figure out

2434
00:53:55,203 --> 00:53:56,648
, uh, you know, take down

2435
00:53:56,648 --> 00:53:57,611
some of the more

2436
00:53:57,611 --> 00:54:12,283
unknowns. So...Hey,

2437
00:54:12,283 --> 00:54:13,472
Dave. Dave.

2438
00:54:13,472 --> 00:54:14,517
What happened?

2439
00:54:14,517 --> 00:54:16,132
Do you want to sign? Yes.

2440
00:54:16,132 --> 00:54:17,957
Yes.

2441
00:54:17,957 --> 00:54:18,761
What is it?

2442
00:54:18,761 --> 00:54:20,207
I don't know, dude.

2443
00:54:20,207 --> 00:54:20,792
Good.

2444
00:54:20,792 --> 00:54:22,332
I understand you, dude.

2445
00:54:22,332 --> 00:54:22,981
Do you want to

2446
00:54:22,981 --> 00:54:24,054
move on?

2447
00:54:24,054 --> 00:54:25,598
Yes. Yes.

2448
00:54:25,598 --> 00:54:26,341
No.

2449
00:54:26,341 --> 00:54:28,389
Of course.

2450
00:54:28,389 --> 00:54:30,234
Good. Uh, number two on the

2451
00:54:30,234 --> 00:54:31,271
agenda for

2452
00:54:31,271 --> 00:54:32,457
tonight,

2453
00:54:32,457 --> 00:54:34,266
we have the

2454
00:54:34,295 --> 00:54:35,037
high-altitude

2455
00:54:35,037 --> 00:54:36,045
highway access policy table from the

2456
00:54:36,045 --> 00:54:37,389
last meeting. Uh, a

2457
00:54:37,389 --> 00:54:39,524
section on city responsibility has been added

2458
00:54:39,556 --> 00:54:40,641
.

2459
00:54:40,641 --> 00:54:41,907
That was a question for

2460
00:54:41,907 --> 00:54:43,238
Dave. And so, Dave,

2461
00:54:43,238 --> 00:54:44,345
you...I ended up

2462
00:54:44,345 --> 00:54:45,725
changing the words a little bit. Does

2463
00:54:45,725 --> 00:54:47,245
that suit you?

2464
00:54:47,245 --> 00:54:50,107
Good. Oh, sorry. Do

2465
00:54:50,107 --> 00:54:51,400
you have a suggestion?

2466
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:51,905
I propose

2467
00:54:51,905 --> 00:54:53,345
to approve a

2468
00:54:53,370 --> 00:54:54,254
highway access policy.

2469
00:54:54,254 --> 00:54:55,096
Second. Is

2470
00:54:55,096 --> 00:54:57,430
there still discussion? All in

2471
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:58,528
favor?

2472
00:54:58,528 --> 00:55:00,073
Yes.

2473
00:55:00,073 --> 00:55:00,646
Good.

2474
00:55:00,646 --> 00:55:04,100
Sign. Collect

2475
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:05,821
signatures. This is the last one.

2476
00:55:05,821 --> 00:55:09,951
Perfectly. Thank you. Oh.

2477
00:55:09,951 --> 00:55:11,618
Good. Good.

2478
00:55:11,618 --> 00:55:12,988
Can I just ask

2479
00:55:12,988 --> 00:55:13,980
a question? As

2480
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:15,167
for

2481
00:55:15,167 --> 00:55:18,112
permit requirements, you

2482
00:55:18,112 --> 00:55:18,876
don't actually

2483
00:55:18,876 --> 00:55:19,895
need to ask

2484
00:55:19,895 --> 00:55:21,073
the city to level or

2485
00:55:21,073 --> 00:55:22,092
resurface

2486
00:55:22,092 --> 00:55:23,015
your

2487
00:55:23,015 --> 00:55:26,144
driveway.

2488
00:55:26,144 --> 00:55:27,042
No person is

2489
00:55:27,042 --> 00:55:28,274
subject to

2490
00:55:28,274 --> 00:55:29,531
permit requirements.

2491
00:55:29,531 --> 00:55:30,693
First, install,

2492
00:55:30,693 --> 00:55:31,289
design,

2493
00:55:31,289 --> 00:55:32,392
construct, renovate,

2494
00:55:32,392 --> 00:55:33,554
or upgrade the covering of

2495
00:55:33,554 --> 00:55:34,717
any driveway or

2496
00:55:34,717 --> 00:55:35,920
entrance to a driveway.

2497
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,871
Oh, yes. Uh, no, we

2498
00:55:37,871 --> 00:55:38,967
usually...No, we're

2499
00:55:38,967 --> 00:55:40,064
usually pretty

2500
00:55:40,064 --> 00:55:41,738
flexible about that. Uh

2501
00:55:41,738 --> 00:55:41,912
,

2502
00:55:41,912 --> 00:55:43,160
I was a student...

2503
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,451
No, it's more for...uh,

2504
00:55:44,451 --> 00:55:45,549
you know, if someone is

2505
00:55:45,549 --> 00:55:46,809
obviously putting in a new

2506
00:55:46,809 --> 00:55:47,778
driveway,

2507
00:55:47,778 --> 00:55:49,005
doing a curb cut,

2508
00:55:49,005 --> 00:55:50,232
or yeah, they're building a

2509
00:55:50,232 --> 00:55:51,560
...fence or a building.

2510
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:52,450
It's clear that you

2511
00:55:52,450 --> 00:55:53,401
want to see them

2512
00:55:53,401 --> 00:55:54,559
if they're going to

2513
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:55,788
throw things in the ditch.

2514
00:55:55,788 --> 00:55:56,976
But no, we usually...

2515
00:55:56,976 --> 00:55:58,004
you know, if they're

2516
00:55:58,004 --> 00:55:59,160
redesigning or

2517
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:00,348
updating the coverage,

2518
00:56:00,348 --> 00:56:01,537
we'll stay

2519
00:56:01,537 --> 00:56:06,375
away. So, there

2520
00:56:06,375 --> 00:56:07,735
are multiple signatures on this package

2521
00:56:07,735 --> 00:56:09,086
. Have you done them all

2522
00:56:09,086 --> 00:56:09,780
?

2523
00:56:09,780 --> 00:56:13,513
Oh, no. No, thank you. Yes.

2524
00:56:13,513 --> 00:56:15,018
yes.

2525
00:56:15,018 --> 00:56:18,314
I'm watching you all the time. I'm

2526
00:56:18,314 --> 00:56:19,555
very sorry I

2527
00:56:19,555 --> 00:56:20,537
couldn't come.

2528
00:56:20,537 --> 00:56:22,240
Yes, I know.

2529
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:29,413
Two more.

2530
00:56:29,413 --> 00:56:30,554
Okay, number three,

2531
00:56:30,554 --> 00:56:31,917
fire department SOG-004,

2532
00:56:31,917 --> 00:56:33,096
general

2533
00:56:33,096 --> 00:56:33,906
safety rules for

2534
00:56:33,906 --> 00:56:35,342
vehicles

2535
00:56:35,342 --> 00:56:36,779
, including passengers

2536
00:56:36,779 --> 00:56:37,626
, with changes,

2537
00:56:37,626 --> 00:56:40,020
including bolding

2538
00:56:40,056 --> 00:56:42,397
point number six.

2539
00:56:42,397 --> 00:56:43,531
This is the only thing we are

2540
00:56:43,531 --> 00:56:45,103
changing in this SOG.

2541
00:56:45,103 --> 00:56:46,132
Proposal for

2542
00:56:46,132 --> 00:56:46,884
approval. Do

2543
00:56:46,884 --> 00:56:47,904
I have

2544
00:56:47,904 --> 00:56:49,294
any discussions?

2545
00:56:49,294 --> 00:56:49,999
Second. The

2546
00:56:49,999 --> 00:56:50,806
reason they're

2547
00:56:50,806 --> 00:56:51,424
going to

2548
00:56:51,424 --> 00:56:52,231
do this is because

2549
00:56:52,231 --> 00:56:52,854
it's...

2550
00:56:52,854 --> 00:56:54,055
No, it's okay.

2551
00:56:54,055 --> 00:56:55,252
it's that, um, they... the

2552
00:56:55,252 --> 00:56:56,239
fire department

2553
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,612
implements a program

2554
00:56:57,612 --> 00:56:58,705
that works with

2555
00:56:58,705 --> 00:56:59,691
the school where they

2556
00:56:59,691 --> 00:57:00,924
take kids from

2557
00:57:00,924 --> 00:57:02,016
school to...um, or

2558
00:57:02,016 --> 00:57:03,284
excuse me, from the fire

2559
00:57:03,284 --> 00:57:04,623
station to...school in a

2560
00:57:04,623 --> 00:57:06,304
fire truck. So that's

2561
00:57:06,304 --> 00:57:07,734
pretty exciting.

2562
00:57:07,734 --> 00:57:08,736
Uh, Josh is really

2563
00:57:08,736 --> 00:57:09,383
important in

2564
00:57:09,383 --> 00:57:10,647
community service.

2565
00:57:10,647 --> 00:57:11,679
When they get

2566
00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:12,768
a student of the month, right

2567
00:57:12,768 --> 00:57:12,896
?

2568
00:57:12,896 --> 00:57:14,363
Yeah, yeah, student of the month

2569
00:57:14,363 --> 00:57:15,683
and everything else they

2570
00:57:15,683 --> 00:57:16,554
do. Em.

2571
00:57:16,554 --> 00:57:17,997
Okay, so you want it.

2572
00:57:17,997 --> 00:57:19,125
And so, one of the things

2573
00:57:19,125 --> 00:57:20,254
that...So, they have SOG,

2574
00:57:20,254 --> 00:57:21,230
but it was a little

2575
00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:22,359
vague, so

2576
00:57:22,359 --> 00:57:23,580
we wanted to make sure to

2577
00:57:23,580 --> 00:57:24,882
include that in there. And we

2578
00:57:24,882 --> 00:57:26,069
also developed, um,

2579
00:57:26,069 --> 00:57:27,320
a thing that parents have to

2580
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:28,410
sign, you know,

2581
00:57:28,410 --> 00:57:29,693
giving people permission to

2582
00:57:29,693 --> 00:57:30,912
sign so their

2583
00:57:30,912 --> 00:57:32,750
kids can ride.

2584
00:57:32,750 --> 00:57:33,822
So someone from the school

2585
00:57:33,822 --> 00:57:34,831
will be waiting for them at the

2586
00:57:34,831 --> 00:57:35,967
fire station, and

2587
00:57:35,967 --> 00:57:36,661
then someone

2588
00:57:36,661 --> 00:57:37,702
will meet them at the

2589
00:57:37,702 --> 00:57:40,113
school. So.

2590
00:57:40,113 --> 00:57:42,417
I have a question, Adam.

2591
00:57:42,417 --> 00:57:43,508
Most likely.

2592
00:57:43,508 --> 00:57:44,947
Only if the city is there

2593
00:57:44,947 --> 00:57:46,670
.

2594
00:57:46,670 --> 00:57:47,813
Yes. Obeying

2595
00:57:47,813 --> 00:57:49,380
all traffic rules

2596
00:57:49,410 --> 00:57:50,314
will cause the truck to

2597
00:57:50,314 --> 00:57:51,264
malfunction. So,

2598
00:57:51,264 --> 00:57:52,305
you know, no one

2599
00:57:52,305 --> 00:57:54,841
will call.

2600
00:57:54,841 --> 00:57:57,728
Wait, children.

2601
00:57:57,728 --> 00:58:00,381
Yes. Yes,

2602
00:58:00,381 --> 00:58:01,317
okay, is there any more

2603
00:58:01,317 --> 00:58:03,859
discussion? Everyone who is in

2604
00:58:03,859 --> 00:58:06,923
favor? Okay, against?

2605
00:58:06,923 --> 00:58:08,041
Okay, number four,

2606
00:58:08,041 --> 00:58:09,159
Alan Greenberg would like to

2607
00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:10,278
be appointed

2608
00:58:10,278 --> 00:58:11,366
to the

2609
00:58:11,366 --> 00:58:12,273
social

2610
00:58:12,273 --> 00:58:13,520
services advisory board. We need

2611
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,300
a proposal

2612
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:18,073
for approval. Any other

2613
00:58:18,073 --> 00:58:21,468
discussions?

2614
00:58:21,468 --> 00:58:22,922
Three sides, one from

2615
00:58:22,922 --> 00:58:26,593
all, who is "in favor"?

2616
00:58:26,593 --> 00:58:28,782
No, everything is fine. This, um,

2617
00:58:28,782 --> 00:58:30,121
this...

2618
00:58:30,121 --> 00:58:36,427
The river has passed.

2619
00:58:36,427 --> 00:58:37,968
Paul Velli...um, Ms.

2620
00:58:37,968 --> 00:58:41,782
Susan Burgos. Is

2621
00:58:41,782 --> 00:58:43,133
Bennett here? So,

2622
00:58:43,133 --> 00:58:43,822
just

2623
00:58:43,822 --> 00:58:46,260
Bennett Law, no. Ahem. And

2624
00:58:46,260 --> 00:58:47,502
now Stan Payton

2625
00:58:47,502 --> 00:58:48,957
has retired.

2626
00:58:48,957 --> 00:58:50,147
Will Mel watch

2627
00:58:50,147 --> 00:58:51,011
him do it?

2628
00:58:51,011 --> 00:58:53,062
Um, no. No, Scott Putney

2629
00:58:53,062 --> 00:58:53,206
.

2630
00:58:53,206 --> 00:58:54,688
Scott Putney. Scott

2631
00:58:54,688 --> 00:58:55,858
Putney.

2632
00:58:55,858 --> 00:58:57,543
So, Paul, Scott Putney

2633
00:58:57,543 --> 00:58:59,452
, Sue Burgos...

2634
00:58:59,452 --> 00:59:02,478
Bennett Law...I think,

2635
00:59:02,478 --> 00:59:03,754
well, Stan Payton, but

2636
00:59:03,754 --> 00:59:04,888
he's not

2637
00:59:04,888 --> 00:59:07,000
doing it anymore. So that

2638
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,230
will be five, and then

2639
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:09,361
we have another lady,

2640
00:59:09,361 --> 00:59:10,558
Janine Daniels, who is

2641
00:59:10,558 --> 00:59:11,638
interested. She

2642
00:59:11,638 --> 00:59:12,596
just wrote a letter,

2643
00:59:12,596 --> 00:59:13,267
so she'll be in the

2644
00:59:13,267 --> 00:59:14,375
next one. I asked

2645
00:59:14,375 --> 00:59:15,230
Paul about it. He

2646
00:59:15,230 --> 00:59:16,037
said, "Oh, more

2647
00:59:16,037 --> 00:59:16,748
than I do, you know, you

2648
00:59:16,748 --> 00:59:17,133
see

2649
00:59:17,133 --> 00:59:17,918
Paul as

2650
00:59:17,918 --> 00:59:18,840
fuel for more

2651
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:19,784
people."

2652
00:59:19,784 --> 00:59:21,104
Yes, yes, because Stan

2653
00:59:21,104 --> 00:59:22,168
is finished. Yes.

2654
00:59:22,168 --> 00:59:22,739
Good.

2655
00:59:22,739 --> 00:59:24,273
So, yes.

2656
00:59:24,273 --> 00:59:25,275
They may have a

2657
00:59:25,275 --> 00:59:25,770
sixth one.

2658
00:59:25,770 --> 00:59:27,083
Maybe so. And

2659
00:59:27,083 --> 00:59:28,162
that suited him.

2660
00:59:28,162 --> 00:59:28,785
Yes, because sometimes,

2661
00:59:28,785 --> 00:59:29,509
for example, when it

2662
00:59:29,509 --> 00:59:30,383
comes to

2663
00:59:30,383 --> 00:59:31,381
the library, he has to

2664
00:59:31,381 --> 00:59:32,180
recuse

2665
00:59:32,180 --> 00:59:33,727
himself because he is on the

2666
00:59:33,752 --> 00:59:34,871
library board. So if

2667
00:59:34,871 --> 00:59:36,034
you have a few extra,

2668
00:59:36,034 --> 00:59:37,153
it makes things easier.

2669
00:59:37,153 --> 00:59:38,914
Yes, and he is also on the

2670
00:59:38,945 --> 00:59:39,447
theater board.

2671
00:59:39,447 --> 00:59:40,558
Theater, yes.

2672
00:59:40,558 --> 00:59:41,124
Good.

2673
00:59:41,124 --> 00:59:42,144
Some people wear

2674
00:59:42,144 --> 00:59:43,234
many hats.

2675
00:59:43,234 --> 00:59:44,558
Sorry, I didn't know.

2676
00:59:44,558 --> 00:59:47,892
That's true. Are

2677
00:59:47,892 --> 00:59:48,784
you ready?

2678
00:59:48,784 --> 00:59:50,096
Yes.

2679
00:59:50,096 --> 00:59:51,217
Number five, the City of

2680
00:59:51,217 --> 00:59:52,236
Royalton is asking for

2681
00:59:52,236 --> 00:59:53,562
Bethel's support on

2682
00:59:53,562 --> 00:59:55,907
their application for a

2683
00:59:55,941 --> 00:59:59,052
community building grant. Bethel allocated

2684
00:59:59,052 --> 01:00:00,196
a thousand dollars to

2685
01:00:00,196 --> 01:00:01,709
the medical center for

2686
01:00:01,709 --> 01:00:02,812
two thousand...at the

2687
01:00:02,812 --> 01:00:04,161
2026 town meeting

2688
01:00:04,161 --> 01:00:05,109
.

2689
01:00:05,109 --> 01:00:06,521
Royalton approved. We

2690
01:00:06,521 --> 01:00:07,806
voted. Ben

2691
01:00:07,806 --> 01:00:08,725
just interrupted

2692
01:00:08,725 --> 01:00:09,581
the vote.

2693
01:00:09,581 --> 01:00:10,103
Yes, everyone

2694
01:00:10,103 --> 01:00:11,457
voted "yes."

2695
01:00:11,457 --> 01:00:12,429
You can vote for

2696
01:00:12,429 --> 01:00:13,928
me.

2697
01:00:13,928 --> 01:00:14,525
Good.

2698
01:00:14,525 --> 01:00:16,076
Unanimously. No.

2699
01:00:16,076 --> 01:00:17,054
Ben interrupted.

2700
01:00:17,054 --> 01:00:18,399
Yes, we voted

2701
01:00:18,399 --> 01:00:18,534
.

2702
01:00:18,534 --> 01:00:19,271
Ben interrupted

2703
01:00:19,271 --> 01:00:20,439
the vote in the middle of

2704
01:00:20,439 --> 01:00:21,414
the vote.

2705
01:00:21,414 --> 01:00:21,802
Yes.

2706
01:00:21,802 --> 01:00:23,205
It was Jordan and Ben.

2707
01:00:23,205 --> 01:00:23,725
interrupted

2708
01:00:23,725 --> 01:00:24,246
the vote,

2709
01:00:24,246 --> 01:00:25,092
disrupting the vote

2710
01:00:25,092 --> 01:00:25,214
.

2711
01:00:25,214 --> 01:00:26,002
I think

2712
01:00:26,002 --> 01:00:26,849
he interrupted.

2713
01:00:26,849 --> 01:00:27,833
Uh, it's your turn,

2714
01:00:27,833 --> 01:00:28,531
Jordan.

2715
01:00:28,531 --> 01:00:29,499
So, Jordan made

2716
01:00:29,499 --> 01:00:30,198
a suggestion.

2717
01:00:30,198 --> 01:00:31,226
Yes. I supported her, and

2718
01:00:31,226 --> 01:00:31,769
then we all

2719
01:00:31,769 --> 01:00:32,672
voted "yes."

2720
01:00:32,672 --> 01:00:33,524
No, I just meant the

2721
01:00:33,524 --> 01:00:34,327
following.

2722
01:00:34,327 --> 01:00:34,865
Regarding this

2723
01:00:34,865 --> 01:00:36,088
next. Regarding

2724
01:00:36,088 --> 01:00:36,955
support for the

2725
01:00:36,955 --> 01:00:37,903
health center, you made

2726
01:00:37,903 --> 01:00:38,573
a proposal.

2727
01:00:38,573 --> 01:00:39,772
Yes, because we, um,

2728
01:00:39,772 --> 01:00:41,067
approved it at the

2729
01:00:41,067 --> 01:00:42,650
2026 town meeting

2730
01:00:42,650 --> 01:00:43,565
.

2731
01:00:43,565 --> 01:00:44,209
This is just a

2732
01:00:44,209 --> 01:00:45,134
continuation.

2733
01:00:45,134 --> 01:00:46,067
No, that's a different matter,

2734
01:00:46,067 --> 01:00:46,918
but Jordan made

2735
01:00:46,918 --> 01:00:48,812
the suggestion, but no one

2736
01:00:48,839 --> 01:00:49,791
talked about it for a second.

2737
01:00:49,791 --> 01:00:50,711
Okay, and this is not a

2738
01:00:50,711 --> 01:00:51,878
procedure. Do

2739
01:00:51,878 --> 01:00:53,354
we have a second or two?

2740
01:00:53,354 --> 01:00:54,321
Ben was the one who

2741
01:00:54,321 --> 01:00:55,056
supported.

2742
01:00:55,056 --> 01:00:56,327
Okay, so everything is

2743
01:00:56,327 --> 01:00:59,149
fine.

2744
01:00:59,149 --> 01:01:00,398
So, yes, this is what

2745
01:01:00,398 --> 01:01:01,868
the city of Royalton is doing,

2746
01:01:01,868 --> 01:01:03,227
um, and they asked for

2747
01:01:03,227 --> 01:01:07,256
your support, um,

2748
01:01:07,256 --> 01:01:08,515
you know, because they

2749
01:01:08,515 --> 01:01:09,603
want to move the

2750
01:01:09,603 --> 01:01:10,828
renovations; they want to

2751
01:01:10,828 --> 01:01:12,836
move the, um,

2752
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:13,754
dental health center to the

2753
01:01:13,754 --> 01:01:14,979
historic

2754
01:01:14,979 --> 01:01:16,000
Royalton Academy because

2755
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,225
they used to have one, as

2756
01:01:17,225 --> 01:01:18,314
it says. Here, a

2757
01:01:18,314 --> 01:01:19,188
converted

2758
01:01:19,188 --> 01:01:20,363
motorhome, and

2759
01:01:20,363 --> 01:01:21,327
they had a lot of

2760
01:01:21,327 --> 01:01:23,317
breakdowns. And so the city of

2761
01:01:23,317 --> 01:01:24,217
Royalton is simply

2762
01:01:24,217 --> 01:01:25,277
asking Bethel for

2763
01:01:25,277 --> 01:01:26,113
support, and I

2764
01:01:26,113 --> 01:01:27,141
wrote down that Bethel

2765
01:01:27,141 --> 01:01:28,040
allocated a thousand

2766
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,165
dollars at the city

2767
01:01:29,165 --> 01:01:30,225
meeting for a fitness

2768
01:01:30,225 --> 01:01:33,553
club. So you know the

2769
01:01:33,553 --> 01:01:34,463
voters have already

2770
01:01:34,463 --> 01:01:35,406
supported

2771
01:01:35,406 --> 01:01:36,986
Bethel before. So

2772
01:01:36,986 --> 01:01:40,313
they're just asking

2773
01:01:40,313 --> 01:01:41,579
you to send this

2774
01:01:41,579 --> 01:01:43,375
letter of support.

2775
01:01:43,375 --> 01:01:45,187
But the mobile home used to

2776
01:01:45,219 --> 01:01:46,364
come to the school so that

2777
01:01:46,364 --> 01:01:47,445
the children could

2778
01:01:47,445 --> 01:01:48,412
use it.

2779
01:01:48,412 --> 01:01:48,808
Yes.

2780
01:01:48,808 --> 01:01:49,840
Now they

2781
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:50,820
will have to

2782
01:01:50,820 --> 01:01:52,802
listen to me.

2783
01:01:53,932 --> 01:01:55,193
I suppose we should

2784
01:01:55,193 --> 01:01:57,374
take the children there. They simply

2785
01:01:57,374 --> 01:01:58,165
say it is on

2786
01:01:58,165 --> 01:01:59,016
hold for

2787
01:01:59,016 --> 01:02:00,232
repairs and it is unknown whether

2788
01:02:00,232 --> 01:02:01,114
it can be

2789
01:02:01,114 --> 01:02:04,417
restored. So they

2790
01:02:04,417 --> 01:02:05,282
say it's

2791
01:02:05,282 --> 01:02:06,146
located, it

2792
01:02:06,146 --> 01:02:06,744
says,

2793
01:02:06,744 --> 01:02:07,576
located

2794
01:02:07,576 --> 01:02:08,639
directly on a

2795
01:02:08,639 --> 01:02:09,903
local bus

2796
01:02:09,903 --> 01:02:11,166
line, which provides a

2797
01:02:11,166 --> 01:02:11,864
necessary

2798
01:02:11,864 --> 01:02:13,127
transportation accent

2799
01:02:13,127 --> 01:02:14,224
for residents without

2800
01:02:14,224 --> 01:02:15,554
transportation, and, um, yeah,

2801
01:02:15,554 --> 01:02:16,784
I would say it looks like

2802
01:02:16,784 --> 01:02:17,815
they're going to have to

2803
01:02:17,815 --> 01:02:18,879
get there by

2804
01:02:18,879 --> 01:02:19,643
public

2805
01:02:19,643 --> 01:02:20,906
transportation, or, um,

2806
01:02:20,906 --> 01:02:22,203
you know, parenting

2807
01:02:22,203 --> 01:02:25,163
or something. But

2808
01:02:25,163 --> 01:02:26,178
in any case, it's

2809
01:02:26,178 --> 01:02:27,248
up to me. I

2810
01:02:27,248 --> 01:02:28,385
just got this from

2811
01:02:28,385 --> 01:02:29,782
Royalton. I wouldn't

2812
01:02:29,782 --> 01:02:30,595
say...It's a pretty

2813
01:02:30,595 --> 01:02:31,286
good change

2814
01:02:31,286 --> 01:02:31,878
just because of the

2815
01:02:31,878 --> 01:02:32,717
convenience of

2816
01:02:32,717 --> 01:02:33,580
them coming to

2817
01:02:33,580 --> 01:02:34,271
Bethel and then their

2818
01:02:34,271 --> 01:02:34,912
parents just

2819
01:02:34,912 --> 01:02:35,775
signing "yes"

2820
01:02:35,775 --> 01:02:36,762
they can go to the

2821
01:02:36,762 --> 01:02:37,551
mental

2822
01:02:37,551 --> 01:02:38,266
health club and they

2823
01:02:38,266 --> 01:02:39,154
did it at school and

2824
01:02:39,154 --> 01:02:40,042
they didn't have to

2825
01:02:40,042 --> 01:02:40,782
worry about

2826
01:02:40,782 --> 01:02:41,522
transportation after

2827
01:02:41,522 --> 01:02:42,264
a few hours.

2828
01:02:42,264 --> 01:02:43,480
Yes, that's true.

2829
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:44,835
And now it will get

2830
01:02:44,835 --> 01:02:47,277
them there, which is. I don't

2831
01:02:47,277 --> 01:02:48,610
know how everyone feels about this

2832
01:02:48,610 --> 01:02:49,447
.

2833
01:02:49,447 --> 01:02:50,843
I don't know. It was a

2834
01:02:50,843 --> 01:02:51,899
request, and you have

2835
01:02:51,899 --> 01:02:53,219
as much information here as I do

2836
01:02:53,219 --> 01:02:56,526
.

2837
01:02:56,526 --> 01:02:57,981
It looks like they are apparently

2838
01:02:57,981 --> 01:02:59,036
writing a grant to

2839
01:02:59,036 --> 01:03:00,127
renovate

2840
01:03:00,127 --> 01:03:03,193
Royalton Academy. They don't

2841
01:03:03,193 --> 01:03:04,145
write a grant to

2842
01:03:04,145 --> 01:03:06,628
replace a van. So yes

2843
01:03:06,628 --> 01:03:07,227
.

2844
01:03:07,227 --> 01:03:08,369
So I don't know.

2845
01:03:08,369 --> 01:03:09,234
Then it's just

2846
01:03:09,234 --> 01:03:09,880
public.

2847
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,210
You can do it.

2848
01:03:11,210 --> 01:03:12,693
Oh, publicly. Or we

2849
01:03:12,693 --> 01:03:13,150
can

2850
01:03:13,150 --> 01:03:30,517
use, and

2851
01:03:30,517 --> 01:03:31,949
I definitely don't support

2852
01:03:31,949 --> 01:03:33,089
that. I said that this is a

2853
01:03:33,089 --> 01:03:34,281
big difference between what

2854
01:03:34,281 --> 01:03:35,303
was, but

2855
01:03:35,303 --> 01:03:37,918
now what is.

2856
01:03:37,918 --> 01:03:38,970
Maybe there is

2857
01:03:38,970 --> 01:03:40,148
no other choice.

2858
01:03:40,148 --> 01:03:42,156
Yes. And it's still

2859
01:03:42,156 --> 01:03:43,385
free, and it's,

2860
01:03:43,385 --> 01:03:44,502
you know, a

2861
01:03:44,502 --> 01:03:46,984
doctor's appointment. If it's a

2862
01:03:46,984 --> 01:03:48,199
regular

2863
01:03:48,199 --> 01:03:49,136
doctor's appointment, parents

2864
01:03:49,136 --> 01:03:50,246
should take

2865
01:03:50,246 --> 01:03:51,495
their child to, uh...

2866
01:03:51,495 --> 01:03:52,709
a doctor, a pediatrician, or

2867
01:03:52,709 --> 01:03:53,750
yes, or a pediatric

2868
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:54,302
surgeon.

2869
01:03:54,302 --> 01:03:56,052
You know what I know. Here's

2870
01:03:56,052 --> 01:03:57,963
what we got. So,

2871
01:03:57,963 --> 01:03:58,820
I guess the only

2872
01:03:58,820 --> 01:03:59,909
problem with something

2873
01:03:59,909 --> 01:04:00,635
like this is in a

2874
01:04:00,635 --> 01:04:02,659
wheelchair.

2875
01:04:02,659 --> 01:04:06,773
But it's convenient. But I

2876
01:04:06,773 --> 01:04:07,823
worked on it,

2877
01:04:07,823 --> 01:04:08,709
so when I

2878
01:04:08,709 --> 01:04:09,858
visited them, there was always

2879
01:04:09,858 --> 01:04:11,171
something wrong, but then

2880
01:04:11,171 --> 01:04:12,451
we worked on them

2881
01:04:12,451 --> 01:04:14,745
. Good. You know

2882
01:04:14,745 --> 01:04:15,999
what I mean about the

2883
01:04:15,999 --> 01:04:17,221
people who came in and

2884
01:04:17,221 --> 01:04:20,243
didn't come in at first.

2885
01:04:20,243 --> 01:04:22,161
I don't mind. Um, so

2886
01:04:22,161 --> 01:04:23,539
we have a proposal and a

2887
01:04:23,539 --> 01:04:24,583
friend. Is there any more

2888
01:04:24,583 --> 01:04:27,425
discussion? All those in

2889
01:04:27,425 --> 01:04:28,709
favor confirm by

2890
01:04:28,709 --> 01:04:30,034
saying "yes." Um, "

2891
01:04:30,034 --> 01:04:32,726
against"? Okay,

2892
01:04:32,726 --> 01:04:48,536
the offer is accepted.

2893
01:04:48,536 --> 01:04:49,746
Okay, number six

2894
01:04:49,746 --> 01:04:51,170
authorizes the

2895
01:04:51,170 --> 01:04:52,558
mayor to vote for

2896
01:04:52,558 --> 01:04:53,911
passive candidates

2897
01:04:53,911 --> 01:04:55,335
for the VLCT board of directors

2898
01:04:55,335 --> 01:04:56,616
and candidates for VLCT

2899
01:04:56,616 --> 01:04:57,862
on behalf of the election

2900
01:04:57,862 --> 01:05:00,318
board.

2901
01:05:00,318 --> 01:05:01,364
I can nominate a

2902
01:05:01,364 --> 01:05:02,411
candidate if

2903
01:05:02,411 --> 01:05:03,987
you want.

2904
01:05:03,987 --> 01:05:04,794
I support

2905
01:05:04,794 --> 01:05:05,797
the approval.

2906
01:05:05,797 --> 01:05:09,838
Second. Is there any more

2907
01:05:09,838 --> 01:05:11,246
discussion?

2908
01:05:11,246 --> 01:05:13,788
I'll just clarify, I have

2909
01:05:13,824 --> 01:05:16,853
n't actually heard anything about it. Is this something or

2910
01:05:16,853 --> 01:05:18,834
what? Good.

2911
01:05:18,834 --> 01:05:20,189
Because that's what they

2912
01:05:20,189 --> 01:05:21,395
just started. They

2913
01:05:21,395 --> 01:05:22,361
just sent out the

2914
01:05:22,361 --> 01:05:23,578
ballots this year.

2915
01:05:23,578 --> 01:05:25,084
They used to, uh,

2916
01:05:25,084 --> 01:05:27,402
do that. They either

2917
01:05:27,402 --> 01:05:28,229
vote at the

2918
01:05:28,229 --> 01:05:29,538
annual meeting or

2919
01:05:29,538 --> 01:05:30,801
they do it. So

2920
01:05:30,801 --> 01:05:31,440
now they

2921
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:32,654
send out newsletters

2922
01:05:32,654 --> 01:05:34,133
every two years. So I

2923
01:05:34,133 --> 01:05:35,339
thought now I have a

2924
01:05:35,339 --> 01:05:36,683
chance to find out

2925
01:05:36,683 --> 01:05:39,162
who the candidates are. And it's

2926
01:05:39,162 --> 01:05:40,018
not like I'm going to

2927
01:05:40,018 --> 01:05:41,182
run for

2928
01:05:41,182 --> 01:05:42,551
someone that one of my

2929
01:05:42,551 --> 01:05:44,179
plans was a no-brainer.

2930
01:05:44,179 --> 01:05:46,746
This would be an LLC.

2931
01:05:46,746 --> 01:05:48,792
yes.

2932
01:05:48,792 --> 01:05:49,267
They...

2933
01:05:49,267 --> 01:05:50,615
Passage is our insurance

2934
01:05:50,615 --> 01:05:51,929
company, and the verb

2935
01:05:51,929 --> 01:05:52,932
Passage refers to

2936
01:05:52,932 --> 01:05:53,900
another way of

2937
01:05:53,900 --> 01:05:55,215
indemnifying our

2938
01:05:55,215 --> 01:05:57,242
company. So, they

2939
01:05:57,242 --> 01:05:57,914
just...

2940
01:05:57,914 --> 01:05:59,079
Okay, I'll trust

2941
01:05:59,079 --> 01:06:00,174
you this time.

2942
01:06:00,174 --> 01:06:04,048
Good. Next

2943
01:06:04,048 --> 01:06:05,240
time you...Next

2944
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:06,465
time you...You should...

2945
01:06:06,465 --> 01:06:07,767
That's good. I...I just

2946
01:06:07,767 --> 01:06:08,634
found new

2947
01:06:08,634 --> 01:06:11,336
problems. Is

2948
01:06:11,336 --> 01:06:14,400
there still discussion? Everyone

2949
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:15,247
"in favor"?

2950
01:06:15,247 --> 01:06:15,859
I...

2951
01:06:15,859 --> 01:06:18,322
Against? Okay,

2952
01:06:18,322 --> 01:06:19,694
local

2953
01:06:19,694 --> 01:06:20,732
option tax, does the

2954
01:06:20,732 --> 01:06:21,621
board of elections want to

2955
01:06:21,621 --> 01:06:22,585
move forward with

2956
01:06:22,585 --> 01:06:23,697
putting the LOT on the

2957
01:06:23,697 --> 01:06:25,847
ballot at the

2958
01:06:25,884 --> 01:06:28,559
March 27th town meeting? Um...

2959
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:29,456
Can we...It

2960
01:06:29,456 --> 01:06:30,719
says "for

2961
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:34,713
discussion only." Um...and with

2962
01:06:34,713 --> 01:06:35,821
everything we have with the

2963
01:06:35,821 --> 01:06:36,964
city, with the water

2964
01:06:36,964 --> 01:06:38,930
bonds and the

2965
01:06:38,966 --> 01:06:39,966
garage bar bonds, I

2966
01:06:39,966 --> 01:06:41,360
think we should

2967
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,754
bring this up for consideration

2968
01:06:42,754 --> 01:06:44,871
.

2969
01:06:44,871 --> 01:06:47,149
I also agree. We have

2970
01:06:47,149 --> 01:06:49,034
many differences.

2971
01:06:49,034 --> 01:06:49,774
So let's

2972
01:06:49,774 --> 01:06:51,692
talk about it. Um

2973
01:06:51,692 --> 01:06:52,480
...Personally, I

2974
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:53,794
think I've talked to

2975
01:06:53,794 --> 01:06:55,042
a few people to

2976
01:06:55,042 --> 01:06:55,929
see what

2977
01:06:55,929 --> 01:06:57,242
happens in Royalton,

2978
01:06:57,242 --> 01:06:58,392
and, uh, at the next

2979
01:06:58,392 --> 01:06:59,344
town meeting,

2980
01:06:59,344 --> 01:07:00,527
talk to them and

2981
01:07:00,527 --> 01:07:01,413
see what

2982
01:07:01,413 --> 01:07:02,138
happens.

2983
01:07:02,138 --> 01:07:02,982
It was Ben's idea,

2984
01:07:02,982 --> 01:07:03,922
saying what if

2985
01:07:03,922 --> 01:07:04,670
people around us

2986
01:07:04,670 --> 01:07:05,635
accept it and we don't, and

2987
01:07:05,635 --> 01:07:06,575
then we wonder if

2988
01:07:06,575 --> 01:07:07,420
people are more likely to

2989
01:07:07,420 --> 01:07:08,360
come here to do

2990
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:09,277
business because we don't have

2991
01:07:09,277 --> 01:07:10,354
it? I

2992
01:07:10,354 --> 01:07:11,426
mean, Ben made a

2993
01:07:11,426 --> 01:07:12,241
valid point.

2994
01:07:12,241 --> 01:07:13,109
Let's see what

2995
01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:17,229
happens.

2996
01:07:17,229 --> 01:07:17,938
A vote

2997
01:07:17,938 --> 01:07:18,575
being put

2998
01:07:18,575 --> 01:07:19,260
forward, you don't

2999
01:07:19,260 --> 01:07:20,191
need to make a move

3000
01:07:20,191 --> 01:07:20,438
to

3001
01:07:20,438 --> 01:07:21,629
do it. Well, it's

3002
01:07:21,629 --> 01:07:22,786
just a discussion.

3003
01:07:22,786 --> 01:07:23,694
You don't even bring

3004
01:07:23,694 --> 01:07:25,193
it up for consideration. You essentially agreed by consensus

3005
01:07:25,213 --> 01:07:25,889
that you're not

3006
01:07:25,889 --> 01:07:26,392
going to

3007
01:07:26,392 --> 01:07:27,068
put it, I would just

3008
01:07:27,068 --> 01:07:27,609
say they

3009
01:07:27,609 --> 01:07:28,015
agreed

3010
01:07:28,015 --> 01:07:28,672
by consensus that they're not

3011
01:07:28,672 --> 01:07:29,078
going to

3012
01:07:29,078 --> 01:07:29,893
discuss it here.

3013
01:07:29,893 --> 01:07:30,728
This has been brought up for

3014
01:07:30,728 --> 01:07:31,293
consideration.

3015
01:07:31,293 --> 01:07:32,954
I don't...I don't...I don't think that's

3016
01:07:32,954 --> 01:07:33,570
...

3017
01:07:33,570 --> 01:07:34,760
Yes, it's been brought

3018
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:35,955
up.

3019
01:07:35,955 --> 01:07:37,032
Good. Now we

3020
01:07:37,032 --> 01:07:37,833
move on to the

3021
01:07:37,833 --> 01:07:40,642
city manager.

3022
01:07:40,642 --> 01:07:42,077
Uh, so in the package, uh

3023
01:07:42,077 --> 01:07:43,366
, you asked me

3024
01:07:43,366 --> 01:07:44,691
to print out individual whole

3025
01:07:44,691 --> 01:07:45,980
boards, so

3026
01:07:45,980 --> 01:07:47,540
here they are. So I asked if

3027
01:07:47,540 --> 01:07:48,770
you had any...Ideas,

3028
01:07:48,770 --> 01:07:49,590
feel free to

3029
01:07:49,590 --> 01:07:50,956
send me changes,

3030
01:07:50,956 --> 01:07:52,322
ideas or come to

3031
01:07:52,322 --> 01:07:53,586
me and discuss

3032
01:07:53,586 --> 01:07:54,970
it. Um, of course, it

3033
01:07:54,970 --> 01:07:56,203
was just my first

3034
01:07:56,203 --> 01:07:57,495
pass. So

3035
01:07:57,495 --> 01:07:58,734
please feel free to

3036
01:07:58,734 --> 01:07:59,697
edit or

3037
01:07:59,697 --> 01:08:00,730
add anything

3038
01:08:00,730 --> 01:08:01,735
you wish. Um, the

3039
01:08:01,735 --> 01:08:02,740
first one is actually

3040
01:08:02,740 --> 01:08:04,070
entirely about you. Um, the

3041
01:08:04,070 --> 01:08:04,869
second-eight,

3042
01:08:04,869 --> 01:08:06,083
obviously my rocks

3043
01:08:06,083 --> 01:08:07,202
are pushing up,

3044
01:08:07,202 --> 01:08:08,320
but the first one is for you

3045
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:09,151
guys to

3046
01:08:09,151 --> 01:08:10,270
visit these places

3047
01:08:10,270 --> 01:08:11,388
or make an appointment

3048
01:08:11,388 --> 01:08:12,666
to see

3049
01:08:12,666 --> 01:08:13,785
them so you understand

3050
01:08:13,785 --> 01:08:14,871
all the objects that you

3051
01:08:14,871 --> 01:08:16,738
control. Um, the

3052
01:08:16,738 --> 01:08:18,061
sidewalk project is supposed to

3053
01:08:18,061 --> 01:08:19,241
be completed in

3054
01:08:19,241 --> 01:08:21,654
October. Um, we

3055
01:08:21,654 --> 01:08:23,390
had some

3056
01:08:23,423 --> 01:08:24,701
traffic control issues, but

3057
01:08:24,701 --> 01:08:25,585
hopefully they've been

3058
01:08:25,585 --> 01:08:27,838
fixed. Um, they

3059
01:08:27,838 --> 01:08:29,100
flooded the wall, um, and

3060
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:30,397
you can see where the

3061
01:08:30,397 --> 01:08:31,729
sidewalk was flooded,

3062
01:08:31,729 --> 01:08:34,902
so let's move on.

3063
01:08:34,902 --> 01:08:35,974
Um, I sent

3064
01:08:35,974 --> 01:08:37,399
a postcard. Emme,

3065
01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:38,601
sculptor Penny from

3066
01:08:38,601 --> 01:08:39,464
Spaulding Park

3067
01:08:39,464 --> 01:08:40,512
provided information

3068
01:08:40,512 --> 01:08:41,652
regarding the

3069
01:08:41,652 --> 01:08:42,844
bond vote. This is everything that

3070
01:08:42,844 --> 01:08:43,322
belongs to

3071
01:08:43,322 --> 01:08:44,279
the household,

3072
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:44,926
so this will be

3073
01:08:44,926 --> 01:08:46,039
sent to the resident.

3074
01:08:46,039 --> 01:08:47,007
So, this is a small

3075
01:08:47,007 --> 01:08:48,582
leaflet, and when

3076
01:08:48,612 --> 01:08:49,612
the vote will take place, this is the

3077
01:08:49,612 --> 01:08:51,003
information. So, it's in

3078
01:08:51,003 --> 01:08:52,132
any capable

3079
01:08:52,132 --> 01:08:54,976
hands. And um, the road

3080
01:08:54,976 --> 01:08:55,941
team successfully

3081
01:08:55,941 --> 01:08:57,100
completed a three-day

3082
01:08:57,100 --> 01:08:58,065
training session on the

3083
01:08:58,065 --> 01:08:59,191
logging game. So

3084
01:08:59,191 --> 01:09:00,027
good that they

3085
01:09:00,027 --> 01:09:00,993
got some

3086
01:09:00,993 --> 01:09:02,704
pointers.

3087
01:09:02,704 --> 01:09:03,921
Richard and I had

3088
01:09:03,921 --> 01:09:05,367
our meeting with everyone

3089
01:09:05,367 --> 01:09:06,357
at Vision Elliot regarding

3090
01:09:06,357 --> 01:09:07,841
the design of Route 107

3091
01:09:07,841 --> 01:09:09,058
, where it was 90%. The good

3092
01:09:09,058 --> 01:09:10,321
news is

3093
01:09:10,321 --> 01:09:11,422
that the engineer who

3094
01:09:11,422 --> 01:09:12,523
was with us had to

3095
01:09:12,523 --> 01:09:13,625
pay an extra 12,400 to

3096
01:09:13,625 --> 01:09:14,758
inspect the facade of these

3097
01:09:14,758 --> 01:09:16,022
small houses and did

3098
01:09:16,022 --> 01:09:17,026
not find any

3099
01:09:17,026 --> 01:09:17,835
Dutch

3100
01:09:17,835 --> 01:09:19,268
artifacts. We are ready

3101
01:09:19,268 --> 01:09:21,039
to work. So, we are still

3102
01:09:21,039 --> 01:09:22,417
searching. The

3103
01:09:22,417 --> 01:09:24,048
likely

3104
01:09:24,048 --> 01:09:25,680
construction cost of this

3105
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:26,975
project

3106
01:09:26,975 --> 01:09:28,799
is still around

3107
01:09:28,799 --> 01:09:32,724
$885,900,000. And this

3108
01:09:32,724 --> 01:09:34,710
allows us to be in the

3109
01:09:34,748 --> 01:09:36,199
utilization program, meaning

3110
01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:37,154
we expect a 50%

3111
01:09:37,154 --> 01:09:38,070
forgiveness from the

3112
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:42,340
state board. So the

3113
01:09:42,373 --> 01:09:43,171
bond vote is currently

3114
01:09:43,171 --> 01:09:44,102
scheduled for

3115
01:09:44,102 --> 01:09:45,905
January. So once

3116
01:09:45,905 --> 01:09:47,068
that comes out, we'll have

3117
01:09:47,068 --> 01:09:48,197
a little more

3118
01:09:48,197 --> 01:09:49,532
information, but we're

3119
01:09:49,532 --> 01:09:50,250
90% ready to

3120
01:09:50,250 --> 01:09:51,642
design. So this

3121
01:09:51,642 --> 01:09:53,322
will be a signboard.

3122
01:09:53,322 --> 01:09:54,273
They are going to

3123
01:09:54,273 --> 01:09:55,319
dig right near

3124
01:09:55,319 --> 01:09:56,461
Christian Hill, at

3125
01:09:56,461 --> 01:09:57,602
the foot of

3126
01:09:57,602 --> 01:09:59,412
Cherry Hill Cemetery. That's where the

3127
01:09:59,412 --> 01:10:01,158
big board will be. And

3128
01:10:01,158 --> 01:10:02,466
obviously, we're boring,

3129
01:10:02,466 --> 01:10:03,663
you know, pretty much the whole

3130
01:10:03,663 --> 01:10:05,430
way. to, but not all the way

3131
01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:06,796
to the very center, to, uh

3132
01:10:06,796 --> 01:10:09,579
, Dandelion Acres.

3133
01:10:09,579 --> 01:10:10,738
We'll make another

3134
01:10:10,738 --> 01:10:11,762
cross, and then

3135
01:10:11,762 --> 01:10:13,092
we'll make all the connections

3136
01:10:13,092 --> 01:10:14,218
, uh, to the right of

3137
01:10:14,218 --> 01:10:15,220
it. So,

3138
01:10:15,220 --> 01:10:16,371
Dandelion Acres is the

3139
01:10:16,371 --> 01:10:17,218
end of the line.

3140
01:10:17,218 --> 01:10:18,733
Yes, that's right. And they

3141
01:10:18,733 --> 01:10:20,070
also have a well. So,

3142
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:20,886
they use

3143
01:10:20,886 --> 01:10:21,677
our services,

3144
01:10:21,677 --> 01:10:22,612
plus they supplement

3145
01:10:22,612 --> 01:10:23,600
it with their own well.

3146
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:24,665
So, these, you know, the

3147
01:10:24,665 --> 01:10:25,873
total cost of the

3148
01:10:25,873 --> 01:10:27,223
project will be

3149
01:10:27,223 --> 01:10:28,253
50% forgiveness, and with the

3150
01:10:28,253 --> 01:10:29,425
ordinance change,

3151
01:10:29,425 --> 01:10:30,562
you know, it's always

3152
01:10:30,562 --> 01:10:31,770
been a bond

3153
01:10:31,770 --> 01:10:32,907
vote for

3154
01:10:32,907 --> 01:10:34,221
everyone, but this time it's going

3155
01:10:34,221 --> 01:10:35,571
to be paid by

3156
01:10:35,571 --> 01:10:36,459
everyone, not just

3157
01:10:36,459 --> 01:10:37,921
the water users.

3158
01:10:37,921 --> 01:10:38,717
So, but we're

3159
01:10:38,717 --> 01:10:39,838
looking at this in

3160
01:10:39,838 --> 01:10:41,699
January. So, this is still the

3161
01:10:41,699 --> 01:10:42,779
same estimate of, uh, the

3162
01:10:42,779 --> 01:10:44,119
likely cost of

3163
01:10:44,119 --> 01:10:45,459
construction that we

3164
01:10:45,459 --> 01:10:48,161
have. So, but they are

3165
01:10:48,161 --> 01:10:49,346
improving their

3166
01:10:49,346 --> 01:10:51,092
project. Uh,

3167
01:10:51,092 --> 01:10:52,125
Richard and I also

3168
01:10:52,125 --> 01:10:53,491
had our every 5-

3169
01:10:53,491 --> 01:10:54,598
year

3170
01:10:54,598 --> 01:10:56,000
wastewater inspection on the 24th, uh,

3171
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,470
end of this month. I

3172
01:10:57,470 --> 01:10:58,388
made a mistake in the

3173
01:10:58,388 --> 01:10:59,149
data package as of the

3174
01:10:59,149 --> 01:11:00,040
February check

3175
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:00,770
this month.

3176
01:11:00,770 --> 01:11:01,800
The inspection went

3177
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:02,792
great. They are very

3178
01:11:02,792 --> 01:11:03,846
impressed with

3179
01:11:03,846 --> 01:11:04,733
Richard's proactive approach

3180
01:11:04,733 --> 01:11:05,842
to the system and our

3181
01:11:05,842 --> 01:11:07,044
communication. Um, they

3182
01:11:07,044 --> 01:11:07,972
said they were

3183
01:11:07,972 --> 01:11:09,056
way behind on

3184
01:11:09,056 --> 01:11:10,465
issuing permits. So

3185
01:11:10,465 --> 01:11:13,381
, Richard will submit his

3186
01:11:13,381 --> 01:11:14,684
permit, as he should,

3187
01:11:14,684 --> 01:11:15,953
on time, and then they

3188
01:11:15,953 --> 01:11:17,325
will send the letter, and we

3189
01:11:17,325 --> 01:11:18,560
will essentially continue to

3190
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:19,760
operate under our

3191
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:20,960
existing permit

3192
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,126
until the state, which

3193
01:11:22,126 --> 01:11:23,361
she said will take

3194
01:11:23,361 --> 01:11:24,984
some time. Um, but I

3195
01:11:24,984 --> 01:11:26,015
just want to

3196
01:11:26,015 --> 01:11:27,541
show it. So, um, the

3197
01:11:27,541 --> 01:11:29,051
other thing was also in

3198
01:11:29,051 --> 01:11:30,523
your

3199
01:11:30,523 --> 01:11:31,723
email that I

3200
01:11:31,723 --> 01:11:32,962
sent you, uh, my

3201
01:11:32,962 --> 01:11:33,621
contract

3202
01:11:33,621 --> 01:11:34,705
ends on

3203
01:11:34,705 --> 01:11:35,923
October 15th. I sent

3204
01:11:35,923 --> 01:11:37,060
you my contract, I

3205
01:11:37,060 --> 01:11:38,074
sent you my

3206
01:11:38,074 --> 01:11:39,328
existing contract.

3207
01:11:39,328 --> 01:11:40,854
So obviously, you know,

3208
01:11:40,854 --> 01:11:42,341
the numbers haven't changed, uh

3209
01:11:42,341 --> 01:11:43,867
, and that was about

3210
01:11:43,867 --> 01:11:45,791
2 years ago. So, uh, I

3211
01:11:45,791 --> 01:11:47,089
wasn't...I assumed

3212
01:11:47,089 --> 01:11:48,458
some of you had

3213
01:11:48,458 --> 01:11:49,405
never seen my

3214
01:11:49,405 --> 01:11:50,633
contract, and then

3215
01:11:50,633 --> 01:11:51,931
maybe some of you

3216
01:11:51,931 --> 01:11:52,790
had. I'm not

3217
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:53,851
sure. So,

3218
01:11:53,851 --> 01:11:55,032
just so you can see,

3219
01:11:55,032 --> 01:11:56,152
this is a document that we

3220
01:11:56,152 --> 01:11:57,403
usually sign.

3221
01:11:57,403 --> 01:11:58,274
Um, obviously

3222
01:11:58,274 --> 01:11:59,961
the salary is changing.

3223
01:11:59,961 --> 01:12:01,176
I don't plan on making

3224
01:12:01,176 --> 01:12:02,526
any changes to the

3225
01:12:02,526 --> 01:12:03,809
contract itself, uh, except for the

3226
01:12:03,809 --> 01:12:06,225
term. So, as we

3227
01:12:06,225 --> 01:12:07,562
discussed earlier,

3228
01:12:07,562 --> 01:12:08,762
I prefer... A

3229
01:12:08,762 --> 01:12:10,099
one-year contract, not a

3230
01:12:10,099 --> 01:12:12,860
two-year one. It's still all the

3231
01:12:12,860 --> 01:12:14,397
same, you know, 90

3232
01:12:14,397 --> 01:12:15,658
days

3233
01:12:15,658 --> 01:12:17,156
anyway, you know, so all the

3234
01:12:17,156 --> 01:12:18,732
same things, and I'm not asking for

3235
01:12:18,732 --> 01:12:20,193
anything...

3236
01:12:20,193 --> 01:12:21,326
I just have one

3237
01:12:21,326 --> 01:12:22,383
question about

3238
01:12:22,383 --> 01:12:23,663
one paragraph.

3239
01:12:23,663 --> 01:12:25,048
Good.

3240
01:12:25,048 --> 01:12:27,952
This is...uh...Well,

3241
01:12:27,952 --> 01:12:28,692
we're

3242
01:12:28,692 --> 01:12:29,936
reusing this one,

3243
01:12:29,936 --> 01:12:32,075
so this might be what

3244
01:12:32,075 --> 01:12:33,419
we're doing. We don't

3245
01:12:33,419 --> 01:12:34,561
change all the time,

3246
01:12:34,561 --> 01:12:39,008
so...

3247
01:12:39,008 --> 01:12:41,682
Number six. You have an

3248
01:12:41,682 --> 01:12:42,873
electrician on

3249
01:12:42,873 --> 01:12:43,521
page eight.

3250
01:12:43,521 --> 01:12:44,659
I...Yes, we know the

3251
01:12:44,659 --> 01:12:46,123
electrician, Dave. All

3252
01:12:46,123 --> 01:12:47,253
the electricity went out

3253
01:12:47,253 --> 01:12:47,644
.

3254
01:12:47,644 --> 01:12:48,937
Yes, why is that? Do you

3255
01:12:48,937 --> 01:12:49,603
know?

3256
01:12:49,603 --> 01:12:51,217
I don't know.

3257
01:12:51,217 --> 01:12:52,551
It's...It's always your

3258
01:12:52,551 --> 01:12:54,612
opinion.

3259
01:12:54,612 --> 01:12:56,006
You mean...This is

3260
01:12:56,006 --> 01:12:56,473
...here?

3261
01:12:56,473 --> 01:12:57,771
No, okay, but

3262
01:12:57,771 --> 01:12:59,001
I marked it somewhere.

3263
01:12:59,001 --> 01:13:00,138
You know that's not what they

3264
01:13:00,138 --> 01:13:00,837
did.

3265
01:13:00,837 --> 01:13:01,983
No, I think Dave

3266
01:13:01,983 --> 01:13:03,057
suggested it. I think

3267
01:13:03,057 --> 01:13:03,726
he told me he

3268
01:13:03,726 --> 01:13:04,414
suggested it when

3269
01:13:04,414 --> 01:13:05,083
they were building it and

3270
01:13:05,083 --> 01:13:05,522
they didn't

3271
01:13:05,522 --> 01:13:05,986
listen to him.

3272
01:13:05,986 --> 01:13:06,813
Let's not be this way

3273
01:13:06,813 --> 01:13:07,576
...Let's not be

3274
01:13:07,576 --> 01:13:08,436
this way. I need to

3275
01:13:08,436 --> 01:13:09,375
calm down.

3276
01:13:09,375 --> 01:13:11,471
Dave, don't start

3277
01:13:11,471 --> 01:13:12,409
Dave. So,

3278
01:13:12,409 --> 01:13:13,377
anyway, there's something... You

3279
01:13:13,377 --> 01:13:14,322
want to discuss it

3280
01:13:14,322 --> 01:13:15,290
tonight, or

3281
01:13:15,290 --> 01:13:15,560
we...

3282
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:16,624
Actually, I guess you

3283
01:13:16,624 --> 01:13:17,443
and I can

3284
01:13:17,443 --> 01:13:18,367
discuss it. It's not a

3285
01:13:18,367 --> 01:13:19,219
big deal, but

3286
01:13:19,219 --> 01:13:20,122
it's an important one for me

3287
01:13:20,122 --> 01:13:20,999
because it's black and

3288
01:13:20,999 --> 01:13:21,952
white, and I don't think

3289
01:13:21,952 --> 01:13:22,654
it's right.

3290
01:13:22,654 --> 01:13:24,099
Perfectly. This is great.

3291
01:13:24,099 --> 01:13:24,999
We've been

3292
01:13:24,999 --> 01:13:25,942
through this before.

3293
01:13:25,942 --> 01:13:26,835
It seems like it was 2

3294
01:13:26,835 --> 01:13:27,834
years ago, maybe

3295
01:13:27,834 --> 01:13:28,912
Chris Jarvis and I

3296
01:13:28,938 --> 01:13:29,832
had the wording

3297
01:13:29,832 --> 01:13:30,568
wrong on

3298
01:13:30,568 --> 01:13:31,488
vacation, and we

3299
01:13:31,488 --> 01:13:32,487
acted like that for

3300
01:13:32,487 --> 01:13:33,328
a few iterations of the

3301
01:13:33,328 --> 01:13:34,353
contract, and finally

3302
01:13:34,353 --> 01:13:35,930
I think we just

3303
01:13:35,956 --> 01:13:37,008
read it correctly and thought,

3304
01:13:37,008 --> 01:13:38,209
wait a second. This

3305
01:13:38,209 --> 01:13:39,449
doesn't make sense. We

3306
01:13:39,449 --> 01:13:40,291
need to change

3307
01:13:40,291 --> 01:13:41,294
the wording. So,

3308
01:13:41,294 --> 01:13:42,587
I guess it's just that.

3309
01:13:42,587 --> 01:13:43,754
It's just...Well,

3310
01:13:43,754 --> 01:13:45,318
thank you. Yes, no, that's

3311
01:13:45,318 --> 01:13:46,554
good. So,

3312
01:13:46,554 --> 01:13:47,771
anyway, you guys

3313
01:13:47,771 --> 01:13:48,957
, we'll talk

3314
01:13:48,957 --> 01:13:50,205
about it later, and I'll put it on the

3315
01:13:50,205 --> 01:13:51,360
agenda for

3316
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,203
you guys at the

3317
01:13:52,203 --> 01:13:53,389
next upcoming

3318
01:13:53,389 --> 01:13:55,803
meeting.

3319
01:13:55,803 --> 01:13:57,090
Because we don't need to

3320
01:13:57,090 --> 01:13:58,553
sign this on the 15th.

3321
01:13:58,553 --> 01:13:58,953
We...

3322
01:13:58,953 --> 01:14:00,749
No, we will submit them by

3323
01:14:00,749 --> 01:14:02,316
October 29th. We will put this

3324
01:14:02,316 --> 01:14:03,706
on the agenda by the

3325
01:14:03,706 --> 01:14:05,212
28th. So, No, that's all

3326
01:14:05,212 --> 01:14:06,689
I have, if no

3327
01:14:06,689 --> 01:14:08,839
one has any questions.

3328
01:14:08,839 --> 01:14:10,349
I think

3329
01:14:10,349 --> 01:14:11,965
everything is fine. Are you

3330
01:14:11,965 --> 01:14:12,560
okay?

3331
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:13,027
Um,

3332
01:14:13,027 --> 01:14:13,944
okay.

3333
01:14:13,944 --> 01:14:15,479
Well, no, that was already...No

3334
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,372
, we'll give it to you somehow.

3335
01:14:18,372 --> 01:14:20,364
Good. Minutes of the

3336
01:14:20,364 --> 01:14:22,485
election

3337
01:14:22,485 --> 01:14:24,689
council meeting dated 09/14/2026. Are there

3338
01:14:24,689 --> 01:14:25,965
any corrections,

3339
01:14:25,965 --> 01:14:27,315
additions, anything that

3340
01:14:27,315 --> 01:14:31,831
needs to be changed?

3341
01:14:31,831 --> 01:14:33,222
Proposal to accept

3342
01:14:33,222 --> 01:14:35,286
this framework.

3343
01:14:35,286 --> 01:14:36,337
Second.

3344
01:14:36,337 --> 01:14:37,528
Who is "for"?

3345
01:14:37,528 --> 01:14:38,267
Yes.

3346
01:14:38,267 --> 01:14:40,725
Good. And we have other

3347
01:14:40,725 --> 01:14:41,944
posts here from

3348
01:14:41,944 --> 01:14:44,893
various meetings that

3349
01:14:44,893 --> 01:14:45,459
you can

3350
01:14:45,459 --> 01:14:46,341
view and

3351
01:14:46,341 --> 01:14:48,085
review. Are there

3352
01:14:48,085 --> 01:14:49,259
any other issues

3353
01:14:49,259 --> 01:14:50,531
that need to be brought

3354
01:14:50,531 --> 01:14:51,578
to the council's attention?

3355
01:14:51,578 --> 01:14:52,451
Let me

3356
01:14:52,451 --> 01:15:05,342
just...Okay. The name of the

3357
01:15:05,342 --> 01:15:06,645
council member at the far

3358
01:15:06,645 --> 01:15:07,785
table in the middle,

3359
01:15:07,785 --> 01:15:09,022
dark beard, light

3360
01:15:09,022 --> 01:15:10,152
blue. This is

3361
01:15:10,152 --> 01:15:12,385
Jordan Hero.

3362
01:15:12,385 --> 01:15:13,693
The gentleman to

3363
01:15:13,693 --> 01:15:15,111
his left in the baseball cap

3364
01:15:15,111 --> 01:15:16,129
is David, who

3365
01:15:16,129 --> 01:15:17,220
voted

3366
01:15:17,220 --> 01:15:18,675
4-1 in favor, with a dark

3367
01:15:18,675 --> 01:15:19,511
beard who

3368
01:15:19,511 --> 01:15:25,761
voted against. It

3369
01:15:25,761 --> 01:15:27,003
was actually 3-2,

3370
01:15:27,003 --> 01:15:28,508
so in response to

3371
01:15:28,508 --> 01:15:29,788
Darren

3372
01:15:29,788 --> 01:15:31,180
Macy's question, Ben Roberts and

3373
01:15:31,180 --> 01:15:32,648
Jordan Hero said

3374
01:15:32,648 --> 01:15:33,890
"no" and then, um,

3375
01:15:33,890 --> 01:15:35,095
Jed Scott, David

3376
01:15:35,095 --> 01:15:36,374
Eddy, Denise Gilman

3377
01:15:36,374 --> 01:15:40,999
said...yes. So that

3378
01:15:40,999 --> 01:15:42,024
helps you,

3379
01:15:42,024 --> 01:15:45,225
Darren? You

3380
01:15:45,225 --> 01:15:46,257
were called the worst,

3381
01:15:46,257 --> 01:15:47,521
dark beard, light

3382
01:15:47,521 --> 01:15:49,344
blue. Yes, thank you.

3383
01:15:49,344 --> 01:15:52,981
Okay, he's good.

3384
01:15:52,981 --> 01:15:54,018
Yes, he is

3385
01:15:54,018 --> 01:15:56,105
good now. I think so

3386
01:15:56,105 --> 01:15:58,933
. Yes, I don't see

3387
01:15:58,933 --> 01:16:00,397
anything else in the chat.

3388
01:16:00,397 --> 01:16:01,167
So we can

3389
01:16:01,167 --> 01:16:02,068
move on.

3390
01:16:02,068 --> 01:16:04,647
Thanks, Chris.

3391
01:16:04,647 --> 01:16:06,026
He doesn't have a beard.

3392
01:16:06,026 --> 01:16:06,785
What?

3393
01:16:06,785 --> 01:16:07,989
Yes, I have.

3394
01:16:07,989 --> 01:16:10,566
Wait, okay then.

3395
01:16:10,566 --> 01:16:11,354
I just want to

3396
01:16:11,354 --> 01:16:12,238
go back to

3397
01:16:12,238 --> 01:16:13,122
the comment about the

3398
01:16:13,122 --> 01:16:14,794
wood option.

3399
01:16:14,794 --> 01:16:16,442
Is this fair? I would

3400
01:16:16,442 --> 01:16:17,537
really like to see this

3401
01:16:17,537 --> 01:16:18,334
issue

3402
01:16:18,334 --> 01:16:19,563
raised at the town

3403
01:16:19,563 --> 01:16:21,712
meeting. Um, I'm not in favor of

3404
01:16:21,712 --> 01:16:23,046
taxing

3405
01:16:23,046 --> 01:16:26,203
people. But we must

3406
01:16:26,203 --> 01:16:27,413
be realistic. For

3407
01:16:27,413 --> 01:16:28,231
we are considering

3408
01:16:28,231 --> 01:16:28,844
the possibility of

3409
01:16:28,844 --> 01:16:29,984
levying a new, er,

3410
01:16:29,984 --> 01:16:31,094
public

3411
01:16:31,094 --> 01:16:31,649
works building, which

3412
01:16:31,649 --> 01:16:32,525
will cost us

3413
01:16:32,525 --> 01:16:34,657
sixpence. Good?

3414
01:16:34,657 --> 01:16:35,891
We are also looking at an

3415
01:16:35,891 --> 01:16:36,935
over-budget,

3416
01:16:36,935 --> 01:16:37,948
unless we are

3417
01:16:37,948 --> 01:16:39,214
planning to cut

3418
01:16:39,214 --> 01:16:39,942
services,

3419
01:16:39,942 --> 01:16:41,144
which I have not

3420
01:16:41,144 --> 01:16:42,315
heard of, which means

3421
01:16:42,315 --> 01:16:43,555
things are going wrong.

3422
01:16:43,555 --> 01:16:44,742
So, we're going to

3423
01:16:44,742 --> 01:16:45,830
add 6 cents to the

3424
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:46,589
potential

3425
01:16:46,589 --> 01:16:47,479
municipal

3426
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:48,766
building under construction

3427
01:16:48,766 --> 01:16:50,604
. We are also going to

3428
01:16:50,604 --> 01:16:52,217
add 3-4 cents. Uh,

3429
01:16:52,217 --> 01:16:53,448
when it comes

3430
01:16:53,448 --> 01:16:54,591
to our budget.

3431
01:16:54,591 --> 01:16:55,561
We also still

3432
01:16:55,561 --> 01:16:56,112
need to

3433
01:16:56,112 --> 01:16:57,406
make up for the

3434
01:16:57,406 --> 01:17:00,416
revenue shortfall after the

3435
01:17:00,909 --> 01:17:02,128
transfer

3436
01:17:02,128 --> 01:17:03,513
station was sold. And we also

3437
01:17:03,513 --> 01:17:04,068
need to

3438
01:17:04,068 --> 01:17:05,244
make up for some of the

3439
01:17:05,244 --> 01:17:06,323
revenue shortfalls

3440
01:17:06,323 --> 01:17:07,009
related to

3441
01:17:07,009 --> 01:17:08,185
water and

3442
01:17:08,185 --> 01:17:09,264
sewer, uh,

3443
01:17:09,264 --> 01:17:10,342
transfer, uh,

3444
01:17:10,342 --> 01:17:11,518
sorry, taxes and

3445
01:17:11,518 --> 01:17:12,792
penalties that we've been

3446
01:17:12,792 --> 01:17:13,871
putting on our

3447
01:17:13,871 --> 01:17:15,014
income statement for years

3448
01:17:15,014 --> 01:17:16,060
that we no longer

3449
01:17:16,060 --> 01:17:16,716
need.

3450
01:17:16,716 --> 01:17:17,104
Yes.

3451
01:17:17,104 --> 01:17:18,482
So, you know, if I do a

3452
01:17:18,482 --> 01:17:19,783
quick calculation, we

3453
01:17:19,783 --> 01:17:21,315
can add almost 12

3454
01:17:21,315 --> 01:17:22,487
cents. This is a significant

3455
01:17:22,487 --> 01:17:23,731
increase for this

3456
01:17:23,731 --> 01:17:25,840
city. I repeat once again

3457
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,389
, I am not a tax expert.

3458
01:17:28,389 --> 01:17:29,812
However, regarding

3459
01:17:29,812 --> 01:17:31,310
local tax, we have

3460
01:17:31,310 --> 01:17:32,771
already received data that

3461
01:17:32,771 --> 01:17:34,082
40% of the people who do

3462
01:17:34,082 --> 01:17:35,543
business in the city of Bethel

3463
01:17:35,543 --> 01:17:38,743
are Bethel residents.

3464
01:17:38,743 --> 01:17:40,496
60% are from outside this

3465
01:17:40,496 --> 01:17:45,447
area. Even if

3466
01:17:45,447 --> 01:17:46,836
you are, and, from the information

3467
01:17:46,836 --> 01:17:48,042
that has been circulated

3468
01:17:48,042 --> 01:17:49,505
among you, and also that

3469
01:17:49,505 --> 01:17:50,967
I have provided to the council, is that

3470
01:17:50,967 --> 01:17:52,137
unless you are doing

3471
01:17:52,137 --> 01:17:53,380
business worth

3472
01:17:53,380 --> 01:17:54,440
$10,000 or

3473
01:17:54,440 --> 01:17:55,719
more a year, which I

3474
01:17:55,719 --> 01:17:57,072
doubt

3475
01:17:57,072 --> 01:17:58,498
very few in this

3476
01:17:58,498 --> 01:18:01,864
city do, it is best to go. with a

3477
01:18:01,864 --> 01:18:03,223
local tax of

3478
01:18:03,223 --> 01:18:03,885
choice than

3479
01:18:03,885 --> 01:18:04,826
raising 100% of

3480
01:18:04,826 --> 01:18:06,115
taxes at their own

3481
01:18:06,115 --> 01:18:07,599
expense. OK?

3482
01:18:07,599 --> 01:18:08,729
The few people in the city

3483
01:18:08,729 --> 01:18:09,859
who spend over

3484
01:18:09,859 --> 01:18:10,990
$10,000 a year on

3485
01:18:10,990 --> 01:18:12,990
groceries probably can't

3486
01:18:13,019 --> 01:18:14,579
afford it. Right?

3487
01:18:14,579 --> 01:18:15,588
So it's not going to fall on

3488
01:18:15,588 --> 01:18:16,630
the shoulders of, well, you know,

3489
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:17,770
people on fixed

3490
01:18:17,770 --> 01:18:18,812
incomes, as much

3491
01:18:18,812 --> 01:18:19,984
, because yes,

3492
01:18:19,984 --> 01:18:20,863
some people on

3493
01:18:20,863 --> 01:18:22,035
fixed incomes

3494
01:18:22,035 --> 01:18:23,273
have to buy

3495
01:18:23,273 --> 01:18:25,476
things in the city. But

3496
01:18:25,476 --> 01:18:28,231
you know what? The difference is

3497
01:18:28,231 --> 01:18:29,215
that

3498
01:18:29,215 --> 01:18:30,169
they will get a 100%

3499
01:18:30,169 --> 01:18:31,302
increase in

3500
01:18:31,302 --> 01:18:32,376
rent or any

3501
01:18:32,376 --> 01:18:33,211
other of their

3502
01:18:33,211 --> 01:18:34,374
taxes or local

3503
01:18:34,374 --> 01:18:35,507
taxes if they have a

3504
01:18:35,507 --> 01:18:37,379
business. This isn't for you

3505
01:18:37,379 --> 01:18:38,457
guys, but it would be

3506
01:18:38,457 --> 01:18:39,242
good to see a

3507
01:18:39,242 --> 01:18:40,321
warning so

3508
01:18:40,321 --> 01:18:42,404
people can decide for themselves. It would

3509
01:18:42,404 --> 01:18:43,506
be a little different

3510
01:18:43,506 --> 01:18:44,370
if we heard that

3511
01:18:44,370 --> 01:18:45,085
things were going to

3512
01:18:45,085 --> 01:18:46,217
get worse, wouldn't

3513
01:18:46,217 --> 01:18:47,216
it? But now I haven't

3514
01:18:47,216 --> 01:18:48,067
heard that if we don't

3515
01:18:48,067 --> 01:18:49,023
plan to cut a

3516
01:18:49,023 --> 01:18:49,900
bunch of services this

3517
01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:50,936
year, it's quite likely

3518
01:18:50,936 --> 01:18:51,786
that our taxes,

3519
01:18:51,786 --> 01:18:52,557
including if the

3520
01:18:52,557 --> 01:18:53,407
bonds are

3521
01:18:53,407 --> 01:18:54,470
passed, we'll go up

3522
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:55,550
10 or 12 cents. That's

3523
01:18:55,550 --> 01:18:56,517
a lot of money on

3524
01:18:56,517 --> 01:18:57,516
the backs of

3525
01:18:57,516 --> 01:18:58,902
taxpayers. There is something to

3526
01:18:58,902 --> 01:18:59,658
think about.

3527
01:18:59,658 --> 01:19:02,176
Thank you, Chris.

3528
01:19:02,176 --> 01:19:03,571
Yeah, I think the only thing

3529
01:19:03,571 --> 01:19:04,827
I can add is that

3530
01:19:04,827 --> 01:19:06,048
I was there for

3531
01:19:06,048 --> 01:19:07,402
you. I've come full circle on

3532
01:19:07,402 --> 01:19:08,729
this. I didn't

3533
01:19:08,729 --> 01:19:10,157
want to do it, and

3534
01:19:10,157 --> 01:19:11,474
then I ended up where

3535
01:19:11,474 --> 01:19:12,938
you were, Chris, where it makes

3536
01:19:12,938 --> 01:19:14,354
sense. Well, let's

3537
01:19:14,354 --> 01:19:15,545
ask for outside

3538
01:19:15,545 --> 01:19:16,538
funds to help

3539
01:19:16,538 --> 01:19:17,729
offset what

3540
01:19:17,729 --> 01:19:19,778
we need to raise.

3541
01:19:19,778 --> 01:19:21,184
Hmm, but what I

3542
01:19:21,184 --> 01:19:22,798
finally realized is that the

3543
01:19:22,798 --> 01:19:24,453
business still

3544
01:19:24,453 --> 01:19:25,970
has to pay that 1%. I

3545
01:19:25,970 --> 01:19:27,000
mean, they

3546
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,186
can take it on themselves

3547
01:19:28,186 --> 01:19:29,965
, but whether

3548
01:19:29,996 --> 01:19:31,026
they get it

3549
01:19:31,026 --> 01:19:32,274
back or not, of course

3550
01:19:32,274 --> 01:19:33,397
it's nonsense, but

3551
01:19:33,397 --> 01:19:34,552
the perception, I think,

3552
01:19:34,552 --> 01:19:35,426
will be mostly

3553
01:19:35,426 --> 01:19:36,425
negative that we're

3554
01:19:36,425 --> 01:19:37,548
raising taxes

3555
01:19:37,548 --> 01:19:38,896
on top of that. I'm

3556
01:19:38,896 --> 01:19:40,193
not trying to say

3557
01:19:40,193 --> 01:19:41,263
that people are stupid, but

3558
01:19:41,263 --> 01:19:42,463
they just don't...I don't

3559
01:19:42,463 --> 01:19:43,306
think they'll

3560
01:19:43,306 --> 01:19:44,724
understand the connection.

3561
01:19:44,724 --> 01:19:45,985
We spent a lot of

3562
01:19:45,985 --> 01:19:47,280
time trying to

3563
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:48,576
figure this out, and I think

3564
01:19:48,576 --> 01:19:49,905
all people would agree

3565
01:19:49,905 --> 01:19:51,252
that we're adding...

3566
01:19:51,252 --> 01:19:54,163
Agree with the word. Yes.

3567
01:19:54,163 --> 01:19:55,087
And I think we

3568
01:19:55,087 --> 01:19:56,012
can do

3569
01:19:56,012 --> 01:19:57,300
more to attract

3570
01:19:57,300 --> 01:19:58,621
business without creating a

3571
01:19:58,621 --> 01:19:59,730
tax. If you

3572
01:19:59,730 --> 01:20:01,034
get...It's kind of like

3573
01:20:01,034 --> 01:20:02,078
reverse

3574
01:20:02,078 --> 01:20:02,863
psychology,

3575
01:20:02,863 --> 01:20:04,179
but maybe you're

3576
01:20:04,179 --> 01:20:05,522
right. I mean,

3577
01:20:05,522 --> 01:20:06,520
who knows? And that doesn't

3578
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:07,477
mean "never,"

3579
01:20:07,477 --> 01:20:08,766
so I don't know. So that's

3580
01:20:08,766 --> 01:20:09,887
definitely something. And if

3581
01:20:09,887 --> 01:20:10,844
anyone wants to bring

3582
01:20:10,844 --> 01:20:11,802
this back to the agenda

3583
01:20:11,802 --> 01:20:12,759
, you can, of course,

3584
01:20:12,759 --> 01:20:13,498
ask me.

3585
01:20:13,498 --> 01:20:14,564
Because it won't be

3586
01:20:14,564 --> 01:20:15,544
before the town meeting anyway.

3587
01:20:15,544 --> 01:20:16,957
Right. So something. Is that

3588
01:20:16,957 --> 01:20:17,937
true, but I, you

3589
01:20:17,937 --> 01:20:19,019
know, it's...hard to

3590
01:20:19,019 --> 01:20:20,105
know. We had...We did

3591
01:20:20,105 --> 01:20:20,957
n't have a 10-minute

3592
01:20:20,957 --> 01:20:21,690
discussion about this

3593
01:20:21,690 --> 01:20:22,517
at the town

3594
01:20:22,517 --> 01:20:23,535
meeting. We raised

3595
01:20:23,535 --> 01:20:24,564
four issues. Did

3596
01:20:24,564 --> 01:20:25,855
we break that, Chris?

3597
01:20:25,855 --> 01:20:26,610
I think someone

3598
01:20:26,610 --> 01:20:27,771
moved the article, the second

3599
01:20:27,771 --> 01:20:28,613
part of the article,

3600
01:20:28,613 --> 01:20:30,163
maybe a comment.

3601
01:20:30,163 --> 01:20:31,382
Yes, we can add

3602
01:20:31,382 --> 01:20:32,680
this to the warning.

3603
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,006
This will allow people...

3604
01:20:34,006 --> 01:20:46,849
Yes, that's right. Yes. Yes.

3605
01:20:46,849 --> 01:20:47,560
Well, we

3606
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:48,414
can certainly come back

3607
01:20:48,414 --> 01:20:49,245
to them when we

3608
01:20:49,245 --> 01:20:50,247
make warnings.

3609
01:20:50,247 --> 01:20:51,438
Yes, I think it's the

3610
01:20:51,438 --> 01:20:52,538
same argument. We'll

3611
01:20:52,538 --> 01:20:53,602
just step

3612
01:20:53,602 --> 01:20:54,799
aside and let them

3613
01:20:54,799 --> 01:20:55,864
decide that 3.5 is

3614
01:20:55,864 --> 01:20:57,073
okay. We'll just

3615
01:20:57,073 --> 01:20:57,895
step aside and

3616
01:20:57,895 --> 01:20:58,532
let them

3617
01:20:58,532 --> 01:20:59,142
decide whether

3618
01:20:59,142 --> 01:20:59,911
to tax

3619
01:20:59,911 --> 01:21:00,946
local options, rather than

3620
01:21:00,946 --> 01:21:01,444
just...

3621
01:21:01,444 --> 01:21:01,844
We can

3622
01:21:01,844 --> 01:21:02,645
come back to them

3623
01:21:02,645 --> 01:21:03,246
when... We're going

3624
01:21:03,246 --> 01:21:03,847
to see if

3625
01:21:03,847 --> 01:21:04,337
we issue a

3626
01:21:04,337 --> 01:21:05,375
warning. I

3627
01:21:05,375 --> 01:21:06,679
mean, no. This is

3628
01:21:06,679 --> 01:21:07,448
normal.

3629
01:21:07,448 --> 01:21:08,398
Yes, we don't need to

3630
01:21:08,398 --> 01:21:09,066
decide this

3631
01:21:09,066 --> 01:21:09,603
today.

3632
01:21:09,603 --> 01:21:11,162
Right. That's right.

3633
01:21:11,162 --> 01:21:15,426
But, yes. Yes. Oh, Joe, I'm

3634
01:21:15,426 --> 01:21:18,176
sorry. You said, "Oh,

3635
01:21:18,176 --> 01:21:22,726
okay. I'm back."

3636
01:21:22,726 --> 01:21:24,000
Everything is okay, right?

3637
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,304
I think so.

3638
01:21:25,304 --> 01:21:26,184
Proposal to

3639
01:21:26,184 --> 01:21:26,907
postpone

3640
01:21:26,907 --> 01:21:28,744
the meeting.

3641
01:21:28,744 --> 01:21:30,816
Good. All in favor. Good.

3642
01:21:30,816 --> 01:21:33,103
Thank you to everyone who

3643
01:21:33,103 --> 01:21:33,812
came.

3644
01:21:33,812 --> 01:21:35,500
Thank you. Thank you to everyone on the

3645
01:21:35,500 --> 01:21:36,934
line.