1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,160 We'd like to call to order the Planning Commission meeting for the villager Beverly Hills for Wednesday, June 24th, 2026. 2 00:00:07,540 --> 00:00:08,580 But do we call roll please? 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,600 Of course. Mr. Westreland. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,600 Here. Mr. Lord Russo. Mr. Copland. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,500 Mr. Erickson. Mr. Lucas. 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,140 Mr. Harper. Mr. Trust. 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:23,520 Here. 8 00:00:23,860 --> 00:00:24,580 Mr. Campbell. 9 00:00:25,540 --> 00:00:27,080 Perfect. We will call him. 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:27,820 Thank you. 11 00:00:27,820 --> 00:00:34,960 And we have, I'm looking for a motion because we've seen, we've heard from both Rob and Elizabeth about a excuse, the absence. 12 00:00:36,420 --> 00:00:37,520 Absence, absences, absences, absences. 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:38,890 She's speak today. 14 00:00:39,620 --> 00:00:39,920 We have a motion. 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,660 So we're looking for a motion. 16 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,640 I'll make a motion to excuse the absences of Ms. Erickson and Ms. Delard Russel. 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,260 Yeah, second. 18 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:47,200 Second. 19 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:48,740 On the favor say aye. 20 00:00:48,780 --> 00:00:49,060 Aye. 21 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Opposed? 22 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,480 Motion carries. 23 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,080 Fantastic. 24 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,800 We have a agenda in front of us. 25 00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:57,720 I'm looking for, for things in order and approval of the agenda as it's 26 00:01:02,130 --> 00:01:04,650 I have an option to have a second. 27 00:01:05,550 --> 00:01:06,450 All in favor say aye. 28 00:01:07,250 --> 00:01:07,710 Opposed. 29 00:01:08,190 --> 00:01:08,730 Motion carries. 30 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:10,050 Minutes. 31 00:01:10,250 --> 00:01:13,510 We have minutes from the May 27th, 32 00:01:14,430 --> 00:01:15,110 26th. 33 00:01:15,110 --> 00:01:16,430 Plank commission meeting. 34 00:01:18,390 --> 00:01:19,870 Before we make a motion. 35 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:26,350 I had a couple items on here that I wanted to confer about the 36 00:01:26,350 --> 00:01:32,790 square footage of the sign or the scoreboard for Detroit country day. 37 00:01:34,030 --> 00:01:47,590 So the confirming with Susie, the original sign was 589 feet. 38 00:01:47,950 --> 00:01:48,950 So in the first paragraph, 39 00:01:51,770 --> 00:01:55,190 589.5 square feet. 40 00:01:55,190 --> 00:02:03,750 So the reducing its size from 509 square point five square feet to 560. We confirmed that was correct. 41 00:02:04,090 --> 00:02:12,650 Yeah. And then that then that aligns with the motion then was for 560.09 square feet. 42 00:02:12,970 --> 00:02:14,690 So I'd like to make that as a correction. 43 00:02:16,820 --> 00:02:19,680 And if anybody else has any other corrections, please let me know. 44 00:02:20,860 --> 00:02:22,300 Or we can include that in a motion. 45 00:02:28,190 --> 00:02:35,270 I'm in the minutes, except the amended minutes with the 569 point, or 560 point nice, 46 00:02:35,470 --> 00:02:38,350 where a foot amendment proposed by the chair. 47 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:43,640 The 580, I was a original. 48 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,500 By the 89. 49 00:02:50,980 --> 00:02:51,280 And motion. 50 00:02:52,340 --> 00:02:52,540 Second. 51 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,720 On the favor say aye. 52 00:02:57,020 --> 00:02:57,760 Those opposed. 53 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:58,720 Motion carries. 54 00:03:01,270 --> 00:03:01,510 All right. 55 00:03:01,690 --> 00:03:02,830 You can move when you're right along. 56 00:03:04,010 --> 00:03:06,990 Public comments and the items that are not on the public agenda, 57 00:03:06,990 --> 00:03:11,610 by here from the public, which to be heard, seen none when we were right along. Old business, 58 00:03:11,830 --> 00:03:19,270 we have none. New business. Sign permit. My big fat Schwarma. Three one two four three, 59 00:03:19,470 --> 00:03:22,070 Southfield Road. Suzie. 60 00:03:24,630 --> 00:03:28,450 I'm actually going to let Brian take Brian. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 61 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:33,990 Yeah, we decided that I would take the easy ones from now on. Make sure Suzie handles all the 62 00:03:33,990 --> 00:03:38,610 difficult ones. Now, yeah, thank you. Well, what you have before you this evening is a proposed 63 00:03:38,610 --> 00:03:44,150 wall sign for a new business going in the market fresh plaza just a little bit east and north 64 00:03:44,150 --> 00:03:48,530 of us here. I do have a review letter prepared for you. It should be in your gender packets. 65 00:03:48,810 --> 00:03:55,890 Our copies were also passed out. In short, everything that I had to review it for based on your 66 00:03:55,890 --> 00:04:02,250 ordinance standards was compliant. The only item I was seeking additional information was the 67 00:04:02,250 --> 00:04:08,750 spacing between signs, so in your ordinance, you have a requirement on multi-tenant buildings 68 00:04:08,750 --> 00:04:13,090 that there are at least 20 feet between wall signs of different tenants. 69 00:04:14,310 --> 00:04:19,330 However, if that is not met, planning commission does have the discretion to reduce that 70 00:04:19,330 --> 00:04:21,930 standard in instances where it cannot be met. 71 00:04:22,330 --> 00:04:30,290 This plaza in particular, I can't recall a single sign in here that has not received the use 72 00:04:30,290 --> 00:04:35,730 discretion for spacing. So, so part of that is a question and part of that is a statement. So, 73 00:04:35,970 --> 00:04:40,670 what I was hoping for was the petitioner as part of their presentation tonight to be able to 74 00:04:40,670 --> 00:04:46,790 inform you what spacing is from either side, one to the north, one to the south, and if it is 75 00:04:46,790 --> 00:04:52,230 deficient of the 20-foot standard, then the commission would have the ability to still grant that 76 00:04:52,230 --> 00:04:58,510 if you so choose if it meets the 20-foot on either or both sides, then it's compliant and you don't 77 00:04:58,510 --> 00:05:00,910 I have to worry about it. 78 00:05:01,110 --> 00:05:02,990 Okay, really all I have, but I'm happy to take any questions. 79 00:05:03,670 --> 00:05:04,970 Sure, thank you. 80 00:05:05,150 --> 00:05:07,650 Applicant I presume is here where you come up and give us your name 81 00:05:08,170 --> 00:05:11,890 and provide us maybe some information on the spacing of the sign 82 00:05:11,890 --> 00:05:13,510 to the adjacent businesses. 83 00:05:19,950 --> 00:05:22,530 There's Jonathan Rawls from LeBanway, sign company, 84 00:05:22,890 --> 00:05:24,010 on behalf of Big Peshwarra. 85 00:05:26,540 --> 00:05:30,040 Going out there measuring what's existing between the signs. 86 00:05:31,420 --> 00:05:40,280 This is a very late last 11-17 page of the packet, essentially to the self of the proposed new sign here. 87 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:50,620 It's going to be 17.5, linear feet, which is less than the 20 feet ordinance, and to the north of the sign is 15.5 feet. 88 00:05:50,700 --> 00:05:59,940 That's the proposed measurements, and you'll see that the existing measurements between the existing sign of some other tenants in the positive is 8.8. 89 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:09,800 feet, and to the north, between the Canine Couture and the Bev Tap House, you got 22 and 24 feet. 90 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:19,660 We did try some alternate designs and shapes and the way that there's a pole on the back wall that splits the property. 91 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:28,940 If we were to make it smaller, and we'd have to fit that 20 feet, it would significantly push the sign to one side of the unit. 92 00:06:29,820 --> 00:06:35,560 property, and whereas they have that, the whole suite for each of the both window coverage, 93 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:40,660 appears to be the best layout for what we can do with our logo. 94 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:44,340 Good. 95 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,180 Thank you. 96 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,860 Thanks for doing that. 97 00:06:49,380 --> 00:06:53,240 Any questions for the petitioner of Ryan from the Commission? 98 00:06:56,540 --> 00:07:03,600 I will add that in, I know I don't know if everybody's been here, but we have gone through various sign applications 99 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:10,280 and as Brian stated, we have, in the past, this commission has approved signings closest 100 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:16,620 into one foot primarily because of the width of the tenant spaces, there are about 101 00:07:16,620 --> 00:07:25,120 20 foot on center if I recall correctly, so it just they fall out. But in the past, the commission 102 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,140 is looked at kind of the fact that they're centered on the least space. 103 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,660 It seemed to make sense. So that's a little history over the commission has done in the past. 104 00:07:39,070 --> 00:07:42,970 And I appreciate Jonathan of providing some dimensions for clarity. 105 00:08:10,260 --> 00:08:19,880 Brian, I'm assuming that your hard copy information is consistent with what was written in the packet electronically. 106 00:08:21,140 --> 00:08:22,900 It should be, yeah, it did not change. 107 00:08:23,580 --> 00:08:24,700 Yeah, it was an update. 108 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,340 That's an update. 109 00:08:26,260 --> 00:08:29,900 I just do a quick review of it, but yeah, it definitely looks to be. 110 00:08:29,900 --> 00:08:30,540 This is the same one. 111 00:08:30,540 --> 00:08:33,100 The numbers match that yeah, we're good, Jay. 112 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,240 All right. 113 00:08:39,330 --> 00:08:39,350 Questions? 114 00:08:40,370 --> 00:08:41,150 Questions for anybody? 115 00:08:41,910 --> 00:08:43,530 Or am I being interested in emotion? 116 00:08:50,700 --> 00:08:56,880 I moved to approve the post sign ordinance with the sign dimensions, 117 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:03,180 not being 20 or with the exception including the exception that the sign is not 20 feet on each 118 00:09:03,180 --> 00:09:11,800 or does not meet the 20 foot dimension on each side and approve the permit as submitted. 119 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,910 I have a motion. Do I have a second? 120 00:09:15,660 --> 00:09:16,010 I'll second. 121 00:09:21,130 --> 00:09:23,490 I don't know, I do, I don't know, I don't favor here. 122 00:09:23,750 --> 00:09:24,310 I don't favor here. 123 00:09:24,950 --> 00:09:26,770 I post motion carries. 124 00:09:27,710 --> 00:09:28,270 Thank you very much. 125 00:09:28,490 --> 00:09:28,770 Good luck. 126 00:09:28,950 --> 00:09:30,150 Looking forward to some sandwiches. 127 00:09:30,810 --> 00:09:31,110 Thank you, guys. 128 00:09:31,130 --> 00:09:32,510 I had a great deal of one question. 129 00:09:32,890 --> 00:09:33,130 Yes. 130 00:09:33,450 --> 00:09:34,470 There are two questions. 131 00:09:35,850 --> 00:09:36,010 One. 132 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:36,790 What are the opening? 133 00:09:36,990 --> 00:09:38,490 Yes, there was a thing that was one. 134 00:09:38,890 --> 00:09:39,550 Do you know? 135 00:09:39,810 --> 00:09:40,330 Okay, Sam. 136 00:09:40,610 --> 00:09:42,330 I feel like before Fourth of July. 137 00:09:42,830 --> 00:09:43,110 All right. 138 00:09:43,630 --> 00:09:43,770 Wow. 139 00:09:44,010 --> 00:09:45,190 Oh, man, you're going to be in Busters? 140 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:52,550 You know, one thing we should have brought up is, so this is actually the current state of 141 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:52,690 things. 142 00:09:52,910 --> 00:10:01,850 It's the big red shawl part, but the window signage does exceed that standard in the ordinance 143 00:10:01,850 --> 00:10:03,890 for Windowsign Courage. 144 00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:09,290 So, tomorrow I'll give you a minute. 145 00:10:09,810 --> 00:10:12,590 Yeah, the ordinance does allow windows signs. 146 00:10:13,450 --> 00:10:14,170 It is exempt. 147 00:10:14,290 --> 00:10:16,790 It does not need a permit, so you don't need a formal approval. 148 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:25,610 but it is limited to the lesser of 10 square feet total or 25% of window areas. 149 00:10:26,470 --> 00:10:30,090 So we don't have action. We didn't get dimensions, but eyeballing it. 150 00:10:30,330 --> 00:10:33,310 I'm pretty sure there's more than 10 square feet of. 151 00:10:33,350 --> 00:10:34,690 With those numbers smaller of 10. 152 00:10:34,890 --> 00:10:36,570 The lesser of the two, yeah. 153 00:10:37,250 --> 00:10:38,870 So that will need to be reduced. 154 00:10:39,090 --> 00:10:40,530 And I apologize, Mr. Chair and Commission, 155 00:10:40,690 --> 00:10:42,370 because we just talked about it before the meeting, 156 00:10:42,510 --> 00:10:44,310 and I completely blanked on that one. 157 00:10:44,310 --> 00:10:49,370 So that would be something that you will need to bring that into compliance with your client. 158 00:10:49,530 --> 00:10:51,470 I'm going to make sure that they adjust that accordingly. 159 00:10:52,130 --> 00:10:58,150 So I haven't seen the final ones yet, but I believe it's just going to be a row of the yellow text on top. 160 00:10:58,390 --> 00:11:02,270 Well, the villager on the bulls, the massive salids, that. 161 00:11:02,270 --> 00:11:03,250 Something like that. 162 00:11:04,110 --> 00:11:09,230 Something very similar to just text across top windows as far as I know how to see the final argument. 163 00:11:10,270 --> 00:11:12,050 I'll bring it up to them and let them know. 164 00:11:12,050 --> 00:11:12,430 Excellent. 165 00:11:13,170 --> 00:11:14,310 So, who keep getting? 166 00:11:15,110 --> 00:11:15,250 Awesome. 167 00:11:16,210 --> 00:11:16,350 Thank you. 168 00:11:16,590 --> 00:11:18,590 I guess it was in being an enforcement officer. 169 00:11:18,950 --> 00:11:19,730 Issues that. 170 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:21,550 And then also I assume this was temporary. 171 00:11:22,330 --> 00:11:22,350 Yeah. 172 00:11:22,350 --> 00:11:23,650 That's because it's coming soon. 173 00:11:23,650 --> 00:11:25,090 I wanted to make sure we brought it. 174 00:11:25,230 --> 00:11:26,010 I appreciate that. 175 00:11:26,030 --> 00:11:26,490 Thank you. 176 00:11:29,110 --> 00:11:29,650 All right. 177 00:11:29,850 --> 00:11:30,950 Thank you, brought that up, Susan. 178 00:11:32,290 --> 00:11:32,590 Okay. 179 00:11:33,150 --> 00:11:34,650 See, I can't even handle the simple ones. 180 00:11:35,690 --> 00:11:35,990 Brian. 181 00:11:36,670 --> 00:11:37,730 You're going to the bottom of the way. 182 00:11:37,750 --> 00:11:38,750 And you're not fired. 183 00:11:39,010 --> 00:11:39,270 I'm sorry. 184 00:11:39,590 --> 00:11:39,830 Thank you. 185 00:11:43,090 --> 00:11:43,510 Okay. 186 00:11:43,510 --> 00:11:49,010 I don't remember eight public comments seen that we had a link away from the public. 187 00:11:49,330 --> 00:11:52,510 We'll move on to Liaison comments in our Liaison's here. 188 00:11:53,570 --> 00:11:54,570 Mr. Gorman? Anything? 189 00:12:05,430 --> 00:12:07,090 Staff comments, Susie. 190 00:12:07,750 --> 00:12:08,430 You're welcome. 191 00:12:09,430 --> 00:12:17,970 So, as Mr. Gorman just mentioned, we are work go for a joint master plan kick off meeting 192 00:12:17,970 --> 00:12:27,170 with Village Council at our next meeting, July 22nd, so please join us. 193 00:12:27,290 --> 00:12:29,870 I think you said you're going to be traveling, unfortunately. 194 00:12:30,350 --> 00:12:32,230 I'll be here. Leave it to the next day. 195 00:12:32,810 --> 00:12:32,910 Yeah. 196 00:12:33,570 --> 00:12:34,770 All right. So much time. 197 00:12:35,170 --> 00:12:39,490 So exciting. That'll be our official kickoff to this. 198 00:12:40,490 --> 00:12:51,270 They already, the Giffleswebster, Joe and the team have already begun doing a review of the ordinance for that portion of it. 199 00:12:51,410 --> 00:12:58,230 I know they've already, you know, severely started diving into the documents that they're, that they're, that we're going to be updating. 200 00:12:59,710 --> 00:13:05,050 I have let them know that if they're going to have homework for you all to get it to me as soon as possible. 201 00:13:05,970 --> 00:13:13,050 But really, I guess I put your best creative thinking caps on and what you would like to see 202 00:13:13,950 --> 00:13:16,050 how you'd like the village to be. 203 00:13:16,870 --> 00:13:18,830 I've spent 15, 20 years into the future. 204 00:13:19,410 --> 00:13:20,330 Bring your best ideas. 205 00:13:20,770 --> 00:13:22,210 I have to bring bad ideas. 206 00:13:22,530 --> 00:13:23,390 Bring your ideas. 207 00:13:26,390 --> 00:13:29,630 There is a speaking of public meetings. 208 00:13:29,630 --> 00:13:38,410 We will also have a opening open house for the Beverly Road, Beverly Southfield Road intersection study. 209 00:13:39,270 --> 00:13:41,990 We did receive funding back at the end of 2020 210 00:13:45,860 --> 00:13:49,720 to conduct the study at that intersection. 211 00:13:50,420 --> 00:13:52,380 And how can we improve safety? 212 00:13:53,220 --> 00:14:02,220 Slow speeds down is our way we can improve ridership for the smart line that runs down Southfield Road. 213 00:14:02,220 --> 00:14:12,440 So the first part of the study, or at least the public engagement portion of the study, was an online survey, that was done at the beginning of the year. 214 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:19,920 This is the second component of that study. 215 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:28,820 So, open house on Tuesday, July 14th, from 6.30 to 8. 216 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:42,480 There won't be a formal presentation, but we will have staff and consultants here with boards with the data that we've collected so far, as well as four different design concepts that they've put together. 217 00:14:44,340 --> 00:14:49,540 Really, I think you guys should have all received an email for me, maybe even two. 218 00:14:49,660 --> 00:14:53,120 I was having some technical difficulties, so if you got multiples for me, sorry. 219 00:14:54,260 --> 00:14:59,960 But please share widely with everyone you know in Beverly Hills or even... 220 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:09,180 Travelers of Southfield Road in the intersection. We want to get a lot of feedback on these designs. 221 00:15:09,900 --> 00:15:22,800 And really the information we gather at the open house will be used to further refine the report that then goes to council and a formal presentation will be made to council that a date to be determined at this point. 222 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:34,900 So, and we're really hoping to narrow down with the comments what will be our preferred alternative for the redesign of that intersection. 223 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:43,020 So, road commission is where we've been keeping them well informed of the process and like what we've been talking about. 224 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:51,080 And I think that there equally is interested to see what has been crafted thus far. 225 00:15:51,080 --> 00:16:01,120 So we've got some good buy-in from them, and let's say I think that may be it, but let's open up my reports. 226 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,260 Big Fashmama, as you know, opening very, very soon. 227 00:16:07,060 --> 00:16:10,720 Oh, since we had some questions at the last meeting about some other goings on. 228 00:16:11,060 --> 00:16:16,800 So the Beverly Park place structure is underway that what was there is go along or there. 229 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:23,220 Under construction, so it's approximately an eight-week timeline to get that all 230 00:16:23,220 --> 00:16:27,240 buttoned up. I know it's been alone a long time coming, but 231 00:16:28,060 --> 00:16:34,140 Should be really fantastic outcome when we're done. I've already started pestering the director 232 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,720 Public works to 233 00:16:37,540 --> 00:16:43,590 And how we're gonna have a ribbon cutting if you will or an initial play. So we'll find more details on that one 234 00:16:44,630 --> 00:16:51,210 Paving work is expected on Pierce, Kirkshire, and Burwood for the duration of the summer. 235 00:16:52,610 --> 00:16:58,350 There's also going to be some additional sidewalk work that's going to be starting. 236 00:16:58,690 --> 00:17:04,600 Probably late until I really August, and that will also run through the remainder of the construction season. 237 00:17:05,810 --> 00:17:10,890 We're making a pretty good effort to keep that the construction page on a village's website up to date. 238 00:17:10,890 --> 00:17:12,550 So check that out. 239 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:15,850 And then the other major project that's happening 240 00:17:15,850 --> 00:17:17,190 is actually not ours. 241 00:17:17,470 --> 00:17:18,670 And that is an closure. 242 00:17:19,150 --> 00:17:22,150 The repaying of 13 miles, a South field 243 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:25,610 to evergreen that's a South field, a city of Southfield 244 00:17:25,610 --> 00:17:26,110 projects. 245 00:17:27,190 --> 00:17:30,810 So I know we've met with this week. 246 00:17:32,210 --> 00:17:34,690 I'm hoping that that means that Southfield 247 00:17:34,690 --> 00:17:36,690 is going to put some information on their website. 248 00:17:37,870 --> 00:17:42,170 And I do know that they're intending to send out physical 249 00:17:42,170 --> 00:17:44,890 maillers to the affected residents. 250 00:17:45,570 --> 00:17:50,570 I'm not entirely sure what their timeline is for that, but I would 251 00:17:50,570 --> 00:17:55,030 expect for that project to, again, last further remainder of the 252 00:17:55,030 --> 00:17:55,710 construction season. 253 00:17:56,550 --> 00:18:00,750 So that's, I think, is all that I have at this moment, please, 254 00:18:00,930 --> 00:18:03,850 like I said, sure, widely on that open house for us. 255 00:18:05,170 --> 00:18:06,370 Okay, great. 256 00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:07,670 Thank you. 257 00:18:07,770 --> 00:18:09,450 It brings us to commissioner comments. 258 00:18:09,910 --> 00:18:10,790 Charlie, would you? 259 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:12,510 And how the dear thing go? 260 00:18:13,550 --> 00:18:15,870 So I was not present at that meeting. 261 00:18:16,090 --> 00:18:24,610 Apparently we had about 200, about 200 residents and other interested individuals show up. 262 00:18:26,270 --> 00:18:31,850 I believe that there's going to be at least some additional discussion at Council coming up. 263 00:18:31,850 --> 00:18:38,870 You know, there was some discussion at the last meeting, I didn't, yes, please. 264 00:20:20,250 --> 00:20:21,130 This is crazy. 265 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:40,500 I have three funds in my back yard right now. 266 00:20:40,780 --> 00:20:42,020 We had one here, we had one here. 267 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,120 I don't know if it was two mothers and one gave up the funds. 268 00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:54,600 I think 269 00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:59,350 it's just up. 270 00:20:59,550 --> 00:21:00,730 We went and picked in with 271 00:21:21,660 --> 00:21:22,720 more properties. 272 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,400 We went with like permitting, we were going to collect. 273 00:21:25,540 --> 00:21:27,190 We had a few hundreds of properties during the year season. 274 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,700 I've got a day in our 275 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:34,550 name. 276 00:21:35,150 --> 00:21:35,230 Yeah. 277 00:21:35,290 --> 00:21:35,650 Two days. 278 00:21:35,690 --> 00:21:38,970 I think we used to go to police and we wanted to start shooting. 279 00:21:39,250 --> 00:21:40,390 We didn't hire them. 280 00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:43,750 They came in and they joined us out to the way they were last year. 281 00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:48,310 It's a couple of years ago that there's a lot of danger in communities. 282 00:21:49,250 --> 00:21:51,770 So, the most rational place is to use a guy in the winter. 283 00:21:53,030 --> 00:21:55,630 They do make them, they make them here, so they come, so it's 284 00:22:00,390 --> 00:22:01,230 hopefully something like 285 00:22:01,230 --> 00:22:02,990 double sevens that we 286 00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:29,980 need to be on top of it, understand what we're saying. 287 00:25:04,130 --> 00:25:06,390 Mr. Garden and then the next day of disappears 288 00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:25,400 weren't my eye at that, everybody for a long time. They weren't affected in this year. 289 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,800 Am I everybody's affected? 290 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:09,760 That's what I found as my house as well as that. It seems like they come back here after a year now, and they feel it's a safe place to birth and then have fun. 291 00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:11,700 And now they're always in my yard. 292 00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:14,400 And I'm in the middle of this subdivision, right? 293 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,620 It's just a small, do some chasing, 294 00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:51,080 I think that was Charlie? 295 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:52,320 Here, 296 00:26:58,300 --> 00:26:59,000 we used it to me. 297 00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:04,260 I do have, I don't know if anybody had seen the news item this past week and about 298 00:27:04,260 --> 00:27:04,680 Birmingham. 299 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:06,180 That's the party. 300 00:27:06,740 --> 00:27:07,700 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 301 00:27:07,940 --> 00:27:12,140 So I know that, you know, that was just different taken again. 302 00:27:12,620 --> 00:27:17,340 You know, that's our kind of, you know, our goal on our side is we've got to 303 00:27:17,340 --> 00:27:25,620 think about the unknowns, and I never imagined that renting a pool was a potential revenue source 304 00:27:25,620 --> 00:27:31,800 for somebody, but, you know, just to think about it, and I did, I was looking for a place 305 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,120 to meet up with some friends, a local establishment, I stumbled across somebody who rents 306 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:43,400 out their backyard as a bar area. So, and that was over, and I think I live on your plymet. 307 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,740 And it was just these kind of things and then I saw the story about the pool that people are being 308 00:27:48,740 --> 00:27:54,260 creative and how to maybe provide some income at their property. 309 00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:00,020 So just we have to, you know, we kind of fall into the things that we do and what we're accustomed 310 00:28:00,020 --> 00:28:04,440 to and what we really need to challenge ourselves to think outside of the box and what those potentials 311 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,940 might be out there. 312 00:28:10,260 --> 00:28:16,200 theoretically. You know right and I we've talked about this the guest that I can see. I know 313 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,220 I don't know what I'm trying to do with you. I don't know what I'm doing today's feeds on. Um, you know 314 00:28:21,220 --> 00:28:28,000 after talking with the ego council we've taken the stance that short terminals are not permitted within 315 00:28:29,020 --> 00:28:36,580 the existing zoning right you can't use your you can't use homes in the residential districts 316 00:28:36,580 --> 00:28:40,240 as a commercial artist, right? 317 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,740 I'm using it as something other than a single-family poem, 318 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:48,180 which is essentially when you're renting it as a short-term rental, 319 00:28:48,980 --> 00:28:50,740 you're not really using it as a home-reusing 320 00:28:50,740 --> 00:28:54,660 and as more of like a hotel motel kind of stay. 321 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,280 And so after consulting with legal, you know, 322 00:28:58,940 --> 00:29:03,180 she felt it was, we were within our rights, I guess, 323 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,440 to not allow short-term rentals, so we've already actually sent out 324 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:13,900 communications several months ago, saying, hey, now get off to the short-term 325 00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:22,260 rentals that have been known to us. That seems to have stopped. Did that stop? 326 00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:24,720 Good. 327 00:29:28,610 --> 00:29:33,530 So that's, I mean, I think that as we go forward with the zoning 328 00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:38,530 amendments and updates that we're going to do. I mean, there's an opportunity, obviously, for us 329 00:29:38,530 --> 00:29:46,690 to strengthen what we have, make it abundantly clear that's a no-go. Cover ourselves for these very 330 00:29:46,690 --> 00:29:51,750 weird, odd circumstances of renting your pool, renting your backyard. I mean, we're not going 331 00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:57,030 to be able to capture all of those things, but I think paths on the right track when he says 332 00:29:57,030 --> 00:29:58,910 we have to think out of the box for these things. 333 00:29:58,910 --> 00:29:59,410 so 334 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:10,940 We can certainly reconvene the short term rental subcommittee. We want it. It'll currently know if we need to 335 00:30:10,940 --> 00:30:17,980 based on the kind of activities that we're seeing or not, but I'm not opposed to it. If that's 336 00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:20,600 like to see it, you know, like to see that happen. 337 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,560 All right. 338 00:30:55,620 --> 00:30:59,960 So not like a long term, like, because that was the, there's, 339 00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:03,920 basically 31 day threshold, right? 340 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:22,400 I think everything else, right? 341 00:31:22,460 --> 00:31:24,180 It's the bad apples, then. 342 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,720 Yeah. 343 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,520 Destroyed. 344 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:26,760 Yeah. 345 00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:28,460 Destroyed the harvest. 346 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,820 One thing that's best to do is, 347 00:31:30,820 --> 00:31:33,720 I haven't even been able to, you know, be able to 348 00:31:41,150 --> 00:31:44,710 buy a set of house for themselves and call me back in the rest of the year. 349 00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:52,660 I'm just leaving the whole thing to 350 00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:58,870 do. 351 00:31:58,930 --> 00:32:05,150 When I think that, at least, you know, because we talk a little bit internally about, like, what would we do? 352 00:32:05,390 --> 00:32:10,910 This way, I had fun in Beverly Hills. I think we still would have considered this a short-term rental 353 00:32:11,770 --> 00:32:15,290 as because it's still that commercial activity. 354 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:28,860 like renting your pool, like renting your, like what they did in Birmingham, renting your pool as a commercial activity. 355 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,220 Right, like that to me is still a short term. 356 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:37,380 Is it, like I said, is there maybe areas that we can, can, 357 00:32:37,580 --> 00:32:39,760 should strengthen our audience language? Absolutely. 358 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,500 But I would still have interpreted that kind of instance to be a short term rental. 359 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:16,440 I'm looking forward to the joint meeting, talk about the master plan, I'm going to take up 360 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,640 the Jeff head provide its main information that was in our minutes from last month about 361 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,600 document commissioner. 362 00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:27,140 So just trying to get prepared for that discussion. 363 00:33:27,860 --> 00:33:34,780 Um, with that, I would look for a, oh, any correspondences. 364 00:33:35,740 --> 00:33:40,640 Um, no, we have, although we have, then our, our, our initials are saying that we are 365 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,500 attending the plan. 366 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,020 So, we're on our way to being official and special. 367 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:46,800 Fantastic. 368 00:33:47,260 --> 00:33:47,520 All right. 369 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,100 Then I look for a motion to adjourn. 370 00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:50,920 Motion to adjourn. 371 00:33:51,140 --> 00:33:51,480 Second. 372 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,340 Second. 373 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:52,960 On favor? 374 00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:53,900 Hi. 375 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:54,660 I'm opposed. 376 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,680 We'll see you in the next video.