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Good morning. Welcome to commissioners court meeting of tuesday,
July 7th, 2026.

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I hope everyone had a safe and restful 4th of july weekend. And I can't resist by saying in the opening go to your to go,
Especially in light of the

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announcement. I know the spurs came that close to getting a world championship and I'm
Extremely

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proud of their season. And but for today, it's go to your to go.

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all right. Absolutely. So with that who is c mr.

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commissioner calvert. You have opening prayer and pledge of allegiance. You have the
Floor. Thank you judge. I couldn't be happier to have father jimmy drinan here today.

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we didn't know that he would have a house that would be engulfed in a terrible accident
When we were choosing this particular date,

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but just wanted to say on behalf of a very grateful community,
So many people have said that they've been concerned about you,

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but you are doing great, and we want to thank you for taking time,
Especially after all the things that you've had to go through.

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so father jimmy drinan was born in hanau, germany,
The fourth of five boys raised by his single mother,

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agnes drinan, and maternal grandmother, cecil berry stringer.

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father jimmy has 65 godchildren. He has a deep appreciation for the universe and enjoys
Astronomy and stargazing.

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he is fascinated with the creative spirit of god,
Promotes the care of our environment, and loves animals.

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he was educated in san antonio independent school district,
Graduating from highlands high school in 1983.

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he attended san antonio college and graduated from southwest texas state university with a
Bachelor of arts and applied science.

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completed additional studies in indiana and language institutes in morelia and
Guadalajara,

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mexico. Attended assumption seminary and oblate school of theology,
Earning his master of divinity and being ordained a roman catholic priest.

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he graduated from the san antonio police academy and served with the san antonio police
Department for approximately eight years.

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from his love for the rich traditions of the catholic faith,
The example of his mother and his desire to serve police officers,

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firefighters and their families, and his continued hope to guide young people away from
Wrong choices into a safe and loving relationship with god.

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father jimmy drinan answered god's call to be a priest. He served as pastor of saint paul's parish for 12 years and saint joseph's catholic
Church,

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honey creek and spring branch, texas for seven years and is currently at saint margaret
Mary's parish.

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currently serving as pastor of saint margaret mary in san antonio. He's also chaplain to the chief of police, william mcmanus.

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he serves as well, now a former chief and will miss him,
Serves as spiritual director of the shields of christ acts team.

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these retreats provide an opportunity for spiritual enrichment,
Especially geared toward police officers,

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firefighters and emergency medical technicians. He's a leader of cops metro and as a board member of project quest,
Father jimmy drinan recently met with pope francis in tome,

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italy. He was a member of the u.s. Delegation of the industrial area foundation.

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this comprehensive meeting allowed father jimmy to receive the blessing of pope francis in
His ministry to first responders in the work of cops.

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metro. Father, we'd love to have you. If all would rise and join us in prayer.

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lord our god and creator of the universe. We pause for a moment this day and recognize the
Gift of the family of nations,

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the people throughout our world who helped create the mosaic that truly expresses your
Creative power.

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we also gather in a very unique way in the united states of america,
In the very shadow of 250

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years of independence and interdependence with the nations of our world.

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lord our god, we cannot celebrate these 250 years without first recognizing the people who
Were

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in this land before our immigrants arrived. We thank you for the rich tapestry of culture,

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of language, and of peoples in the native american communities across this great nation.

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we recognize that we build upon the greatness of these people,
Lord our god.

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we gather and we celebrate all that has been accomplished in the united states of america,

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the state of texas, and the county of bear. But we also recognize that there is a danger
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our nation and among our people to hide the scars of our history,
To pull from the

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libraries and schools books that tell of both tragedy and triumph.

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lord our god, our museums are being stripped of the truth,
And our people are being denied the

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opportunity to see where we have come from so that we might faithfully go towards our
Destiny,

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inspire our elected officials here in the county of bear across our state and nation to
Not strip our children,

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our teenagers, and our future of the truth of the pain that we have experienced as a
Nation.

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slavery abuses to native american peoples, oppression of women,
The denial of

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rights in the dignity of the human person. For we know as a nation,
When we are at our greatest.

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when we are able to face the scars of our past so that we might be healed and move into a
Future filled with

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promise. We recognize the history of bexar county and its contributions to the state of
Texas and the united states of america,

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and how we have, in a very faithful way within this county,
Risen up to address the greatest challenges that we

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face. We are not a people of fear. We are a people of hope who can look past the

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scars of our past so that we might create a future where injury will be no more.

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as we gather here together in this courthouse,
We recognize that there are members of bexar county

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who are being tracked down, detained, and being placed in warehouses across this state and
Nation.

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these abuses to our immigrant people are unacceptable.

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we know we are better than this. Inspire the county of bear to lead the state and the
Nation in addressing the

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challenges that we face. We pray that our elected officials here and across the united
States turn away from the

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dangerous words. We've done all we can. There is nothing more we can do,
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know in bexar county and in the state of texas,
That there is always more to do that we can place before ourselves

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goals that bring dignity to every single person.

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may the very challenges we face here in the bexar county courthouse with our judge and our
Commissioners

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always lift up the needs of our children to protect them from abuse,
Violence and neglect.

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may the decisions made here today always lift up the members of our bexar county sheriff's
Department and

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constables who work so hard in our community.

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these well-trained, well vetted men and women help guide the security of our county.

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lord our god, may the choices made here today inspire the city of san antonio,
The state of texas,

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and indeed the entire nation into a hopeful future where all people are recognized with
Dignity

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and respect and that we create a future of hope.

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lord, we pray your blessings upon our judge,
Upon our commissioners.

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inspire them to put our people first. All of our people,
Those born here and

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those who immigrate here, recognizing that no one of us is better than another,
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immigrants here in the world we live in. May this day be filled with hope as we

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reflect upon our painful past, the greatness of our nation,
State and county, and the hopeful

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future we all can create. This we ask in your name.

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you who live and reign forever and ever. Amen.

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thank you for that powerful prayer. Thank you very much. If you'll join us in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United states of america and to the republic for which it stands.

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one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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thank you very much. Thank you very much. All right.

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point of personal privilege. I have two commissioner clay-flores. You have the floor.
Thank you.

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judge. I just wanted to take a point of personal privilege to thank our county staff for
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america 250 show that was put on ken's here. And I know annalisa.

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is she here? She's also under parks. She was the point of contact.

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and I had gone over to mission county park the night before and saw her working.

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she even had her husband out there who's not a county employee. So,
Everyone was just working hard and it was I just got amazing feedback.

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this is of course, for the whole county, but it was in my precinct,
There was a drone show.

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if you weren't there, you missed out fireworks amusement rides,
Bubble party, live band, photo booth,

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face painting for the kids crafts. And it was over 5000 people with all the parks over
There and the parking lots on the street.

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so it was just really, really beautiful. Park and heritage staff worked this 22 team
Members.

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I also want to recognize facilities and av. So thank you so much for the work that you all
Do to commemorate 250 years of this country.

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so if you want to take a couple of minutes to say a few things,
Well, it was a great it was a really great event.

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the planning on this started back in april of 2025. Well, a whole lot of people put a whole lot into it.

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all the heavy lifting was done by annalisa. She even brings out her mom and dad to these
Events.

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so yeah, her husband got roped in. He's a fireman,
So he's in there working too.

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but it was a big, big team effort. But the the leading leading the charge was annalisa.

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so she really deserves a round of applause for that. So thank you.

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that's what happened when you put women in charge. So thank you so much. Annalisa. Is there anything you want to say?

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I just want to say thank you to my park staff and to the facilities as well. I couldn't have done it, you know, by myself.

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it takes a team to do this. So I appreciate everyone. So we really appreciate it. We've heard really great comments from the community and it
Was just really a beautiful show.

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very well done. So thank you for the aplauso por favor. Thank you. Let me let me say a few. Ken, lisa,
Let me just follow father jimmy's words

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and say this to county staff, to the public,
To my colleagues.

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when we have an opportunity to celebrate, when we have an opportunity to say thank you,
When there's an opportunity to express gratitude.

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let's take every opportunity to do so. And so I want to say thank you to my staff who put
This thing together

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along with the park staff. We gave you the allotment of money.

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but ken, because that was the big issue. And I understand we use taxpayer money,
But I think the use of taxpayer money for events like this.

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commissioner. Clay-flores. And thank you. Commissioner. Clay-flores for your leadership in
Precinct one.

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oh, by the way, it was in precinct one at mission county park in the south side.

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and so I just wanted to say thank you to all.

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it's been a pleasure working with you. And we will continue to work hard every day to make
Better,

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better. Thank you all very much. Let's give another round of applause for our staff.
Commissioner moody.

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judge, since you. Since you brought it up. I brought it up in reference to the prayer
Earlier and the money that was spent.

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taxpayer dollars. There is a lot of heartache going on in this country right now for for
For a lot of people.

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and so when we have the opportunities to celebrate the good things about this country,
We should.

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and seeing 000 people out there of all races,
Of all ages, of all backgrounds, something to bring us together to celebrate,

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just like the spurs is on the agenda later on. And the spurs is something else that brings this community together. Right now,
There aren't a lot of things that bring us together, so I'm so glad that we were able to

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do this. So thanks again. Thank you. Commissioner moody,
You have a point of order.

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point of personal privilege. Well, in keeping with the spirit of bringing us together as a
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as military city usa, and also thanking those who've given to our county.

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I just wanted to acknowledge. I don't believe they're here today,
But calvin henry and then austin craig harris from our bexar county military and veteran

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services, they recently went to the texas veterans commission conference.

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and calvin henry was recognized as the supervisor of the year for the state of texas.

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and austin craig harris was received the top veteran service officer award for the state
Of texas.

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so I know they're not here, but let's give them a round of applause. Well,
Commissioner moody,

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let me just say that's the reason why calvin henry should be here,
Because he would have gotten recognized and an opportunity to speak. But nonetheless,

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you have the floor. Sorry for that interruption. No I we have a great team over there that does a lot of work for our veterans here in our
Community.

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and I know they'll continue to do that, but we just wanted to highlight some of the awards
That they were able to take home from the veterans conference that they recently attended.

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thank you, judge. All right. Let's continue the business of the county. Today we got a lot of work to do. Item three,
Request the commissioners court identify items for the consent agenda for additional

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discussion and to approve remaining consent agenda items. I'll start with commissioner clay-flores. Any items to pull for individual consideration?

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nothing to pull. I'll wait for commissioner rodriguez. Commissioner moody. Commissioner calvert. Okay.

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commissioner rodriguez. He walked off on the wrong time. All right, we'll come back in case he does have any matters to pull.

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is there a motion? Move. Second. Motion by commissioner calvert.

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second by commissioner clay-flores. Any further discussion? All those in favor signify by
Saying aye.

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aye. Any opposed? Any abstention? Motion carries.

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and we'll reserve commissioner rodriguez's appearance and vote on that.

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all right. We need to do presentation item four presentation of ceremonial items.

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we're going to recognize 25 plus years of service and both come out of risk management.

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so I'm tying you up, pearl hathaway. Tina, do we want them separately?

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do you want to do it separately? All right. And then we'll have sylvia diaz after that. So
Pearl,

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you, your family, your colleagues. Oh my gosh. You brought you brought the whole department.

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so how's risk management going to be able to operate with all the people here? Tina, this is this is everybody on the ninth floor.

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oh, we have all of our parties together and stuff,
So. Well, come on. Everybody wanted everybody to get around.

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everybody step up. All right. Tina, you all right?

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I'm very happy to be up here talking about two really,
Really fantastic employees.

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first is pearl hardy. For 25 years, pearl has been a dedicated public servant,
Playing a vital role in administering the county's workers compensation

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program for more than 5000 employees. Throughout her career,
She has exhibited compassion,

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which I have seen personally, and dedication,
Ensuring that employees who experience workplace injuries recover timely,

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recover timely and receive good guidance and support through pearl's tenacity and
Attention to detail.

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bexar county has consistently met the strict reporting and claims administration
Requirements established by the texas workforce commission,

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protecting the county's compliance with state regulations. Last, but definitely not least, one of pearl's most important and cherished contributions
Is the chicken on the stick booth she has set up

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for the county. Pachanga for the past four years.

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so I'd like to thank you for your service, and I'm proud to have worked with you for the
Past 25 years.

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thank you. Thank you, tina, for your generous introduction.

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commissioner. I'm very grateful for all the opportunity the county has blessed me with.
Thank you for all the friendships that I've made along the way and the

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brilliant mentors that I've worked with. As you can see,
I come with a full house.

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but everyone and everyone else who has supported my career. Thank you, thank you. All right. Would you all come forward to take a

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picture and present you your 25 year pin? Pearl,
Come on up.

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bring your gang with you, please. You want to come in here or just your family?

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wow. Half the room. He's got this whole much more balance it,
Please.

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jennifer. Balance here. We got it. Y'all want to come in more?

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guys. Come on, pack it in, guys. Yeah!

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thank you guys. Thank you guys. Thank you. I didn't have anything.

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okay. Let me have the second employee, sylvia diaz.

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bring your. Is it the same group? Sylvia diaz,
You're next.

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so sylvia has contributed 35 years of dedicated service to bexar county as.

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and has served in several important and diverse roles.

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she started in 1991 as a pretrial investigator interviewing inmates for pr bond.

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she worked in community development on housing projects. She worked in the small, minority and women owned business department,
Keeping track of contracts and vendors.

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and finally, she came to the risk management and compliance department as a senior
Compliance analyst,

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where she works on insurance claims. And if you've ever received the email,
The annual email regarding the cybersecurity training is coming from,

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she's the one that she's the one that sent me that and gave me a warning that if I didn't,

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she's going to record her under, gave me a warning,
Achieved 99% compliance with that state legislation.

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so we're doing really well. So thank you for your service,
Sylvia, and it's been a pleasure working with you.

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thank you tina. Thank you. Good morning. My my speech is a little bit more different than
Pearls.

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good morning, commissioners and judge sakai. And to all the bexar county directors and
Managers and coworkers for this wonderful opportunity to be here.

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when I started working for bexar county, we were still using the dark green screens with
The fluorescent letters and manually typing,

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writing, and using using our in-house dewey decimal system like a robot.

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oh, murphy looking, you know, for clients or inmates or whatever we were looking up.

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bexar county has always provided the best education training programs for their employees
And created a smooth pathway for me to continue learning and growing in my career.

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while employed with bexar county, I raised a family,
Continued my education, earned two degrees,

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all while working here. And right now I'm not ready to retire.

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but I'm looking at the pot, the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

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so here we are in 2026 and 35 years later, I have been a part of this amazing workplace
And I have participated in creating new experiences for our employees.

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and now we're using artificial intelligence and cybersecurity and mr.

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smith and tina, thank you so much for helping create a better and improve bexar county
With our wellness program and our education programs.

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and. Veronica guevara thank you for being such a wonderful and caring director.

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thank you.

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so check with pearl.

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check your hands. Okay. Okay. Did I flip it? Well,
Thanks for the.

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commissioner. All right. That was our risk management department.

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thank you. And thank you for the keeping us in compliance with my training and
Certification.

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I do have to go on record that I was warned that I was going to get reported if I didn't
Do that training.

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so we have staff that hold us accountable. Commissioner rodriguez for purpose of record.

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I left the vote and the consent agenda. Do you want to register a vote?

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and is there any matters to pull? Nothing to pull,
Judge. I'm in favor of the consent agenda. Let the record reflect.

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it's unanimous vote. All right, let's do time. Certain. Barbara schaefer presentation. Discussion appropriate action regarding direction
To staff to explore the development of a crisis nursing program in bexar county,

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which can support the protection of children by providing a dedicated short term placement
Option for minors and families experiencing crisis to identify an

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appropriate procurement methodology, as well as potential qualified vendors related to the
Establishment of crisis nursery program at the next convened meeting of commissioners

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court. I'm honored to have barbara schaefer,
Former children's court administrator, now director of special.

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what director special. What is your title? Director of strategic planning.

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okay. And I believe we have the one and only yolanda valenzuela standing right behind you.

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yes. So, miss schaefer, you have the floor. Okay. Good morning, judge and commissioners, as judge said. Speak up.

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good morning. Okay. Good morning, judge and commissioners.

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as judge said, I'm barbara schaefer, director of strategic planning with the office of the
County manager.

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today I would like to discuss an opportunity to strengthen bexar county's child safety net
By exploring the development of a crisis nursery in our community.

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a crisis nursery is a prevention strategy that protects children,
Supports families, and provides an immediate resource for law enforcement,

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hospitals, and our courts. When families experience a temporary crisis,
When families experience crisis.

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these crises can be a tipping point to tragedy. A crisis nursery program can prevent that tragedy.

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today, I'd like to explain what a crisis nursery is,
What gap it can address and highlight a source of funding to establish one in bexar

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county. So what is a crisis nursery? A crisis nursery is a voluntary,
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program that provides short term care for children birth through age ten while their
Caregiver addresses an emergency.

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these emergencies can include medical hospitalization,
Mental health crisis, caregiver exhaustion,

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domestic violence, housing instability, and other unexpected events that temporarily
Prevent a parent from safely caring for their child.

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the key word here is temporary. Families are not giving up custody,
And children aren't entering foster care.

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instead, parents voluntarily seek help before their situation becomes severe enough to
Require government intervention.

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while children receive safe, nurturing care,
Parents are connected with community resources that help stabilize the family.

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that shift from reacting after harm occurs to preventing harm before it occurs is what
Makes this model so effective.

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the model itself is built around prevention and family preservation. First, a child receives immediate care in a safe and licensed environment.

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second, staff work with the family to understand what created this crisis.

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third, the family is connected with appropriate services in our community,
Whether those involve housing assistance,

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behavioral health treatment, substance use services,
Child care resources, and any other community support to the family may need.

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finally, once the crisis has been resolved, the child returns home safely.

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the goal goes beyond temporary supervision, and it expands to stabilizing the family so
They can remain together safely.

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crisis nurseries provide four primary services. The first is prevention. Intervening before neglect,
Injury or abuse occurs rather than responding after a tragedy.

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the second is deflection. Many of these situations we see today ultimately result in
Unnecessary involvement in child protective services and our court

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systems because they simply don't have another option. A crisis nursery offers a different alternative.

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the third is support. Children receive licensed,
Trauma informed care around the clock while parents stabilize their situation.

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finally, families receive referrals and connections to community resources,
So the crisis that brought them to the nursery is less likely to happen again.

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the crisis nursery doesn't replace any existing services. This program serves as a bridge between the family's immediate crisis and the community
Resources that help prevent the crisis from happening again.

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in many ways, this is one of the earliest forms of child abuse prevention because it
Addresses stress before stress becomes neglect.

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so why is this particularly important to bexar county?

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bexar county continues to face several significant pressures that increase family stress
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the risk of child maltreatment. Families continue to struggle with affordable child care,
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weekends and emergencies when traditional childcare isn't available.

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domestic violence continues to affect thousands of families each year,
Often leaving children caught in a situation where there is no immediate,

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safe caregiver. We see this all too often in our community.

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when law enforcement responds to a domestic violence,
Homicide officers must immediately determine where traumatized children can safely go when

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there is no immediate child centered option. Behavioral health crises and substance abuse
Disorders continue to place enormous stress on parents and caregivers.

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we regularly encounter situations where a parent experiences acute mental health crisis
Requiring hospitalization or an emergency room intervention.

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during these moments, children will still need a safe place to stay.

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housing instability and poverty further compound these challenges.

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according to recent data, more than 22% of children in bexar county live in poverty.

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14% of households earn below the poverty, the federal poverty level,
And nearly half of households do not earn enough income to consistently meet their basic

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needs. None of these issues alone caused child abuse or neglect.

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but when several occur simultaneously, a parent loses child care experiences and medical
Emergency faces eviction or suffers a mental health crisis,

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the risk increases substantially. A crisis nursery gives people another.

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it gives families another option before that crisis escalates.

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unfortunately, the data also demonstrates the magnitude of the child welfare challenges we
Continue to face in bexar county.

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the numbers on this slide underscore the prevalence of child abuse in our community.

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this is a hard slide to read. The most vulnerable of the children are those under the age
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these are children who are too young to protect themselves. Too young to ask for help, and often too young to be enrolled in child care programs where
Others might recognize signs of danger.

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the data also reminds us that in most cases,
The perpetrator is not a stranger.

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this tells us that if we want some different outcomes,
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ultimately, our goal is to prevent children from becoming victims in the first place.

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if prevention is our goal, it's important to understand why families choose to use crisis
Nurseries and what they are trying to address before the situation escalates.

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closing a critical gap. It's. It's important to understand why families seek these
Services.

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nationally, parents consistently report that they can use crisis nurseries because they
Are facing a temporary crisis,

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not because they no longer want to care for their children. These are parents who need
Help for a few hours or a few days while they address any of the emergencies that their.

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in their families, they enter treatment, escape domestic violence,
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or simply just to regain stability within their family network.

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a crisis nursery provides families with a safe,
Alternative place during that window of crisis.

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it allows them to ask for help before the situation deteriorates,
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in many ways, it removes the stigma for asking for help,
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occurs. Unfortunately, when a crisis nursery doesn't exist,
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it simply shifts to other public systems. So what is happening now?

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children may spend hours sitting in the back of a patrol car vehicle while officers search
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others remain in a hospital emergency department despite having no medical need or weight,

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and cps offices. Until placement can be arranged,
A law enforcement officer spending 2 to 3 hours trying to locate child care is an officer

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who isn't responding to calls for service. An emergency room bed occupied by a child
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a short term family crisis can quickly become a government systems issue,
Not because anyone has done anything wrong,

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but because there's no immediate alternative. This is the gap a crisis nursery is designed to fill.

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national data and research tells us what happens when families don't have this option
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when families don't have access to emergency,
They often make decisions they never intended to make.

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some parents reported keeping their children in an unsafe situation while they had no
Other option.

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we repeatedly see child death cases in the media where mom's boyfriend is the caregiver
And murders the child while she is working,

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or her boyfriend murders the child while she is working because she had nowhere else to
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others left children with caregivers they didn't trust. Some delayed seeking emergency medical care because they couldn't leave their children.

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others missed work putting their their employment at risk.

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and some ultimately requested foster care not because they wanted their children removed,
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a crisis nursery gives parents another option before desperation leads to a decision that
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when we compare today's system with the crisis nursery models,
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what is a crisis nursery? Children have a safe place. Within minutes, families receive coordinated services,
Parents receive education and referrals in our community,

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and children returned home when the crisis has stabilized. Instead of reacting to emergencies, we began preventing them from escalating.

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this isn't replacing existing services, it's connecting them.

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it becomes another tool that allows every agency to do its job more effectively.

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those operational improvements also translate into financial impacts for the county.

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that's not the right side. Sorry. I also want to emphasize that it's not only a child
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it's a fiscal issue. When a short term family crisis turns into a removal,
Multiple county systems become involved.

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law enforcement depends on ours. Locating placement,
Hospitals, providing supervision that isn't medical care.

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attorneys start to become involved in cases. Children enter the court process.

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each step increases cost. Every time we can safely prevent that escalation,
We reduce demands on multiple systems.

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this is why crisis nurseries are increasingly viewed across the country as both prevention
Programs and government efficient strategies.

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so how does this process work? A referral may come from law enforcement,
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nonprofit, or directly from a family in your precinct. In our community. The child arrives at the nursery,
Staff completes the needs and medical screenings,

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and child receives immediate care in a nurturing environment. Meanwhile, staff work with the caregiver to develop a service plan and connect them with
Appropriate resources.

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once the crisis has been resolved, the child returns home with a safe and responsible
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to better understand the need locally, we surveyed law enforcement.

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their responses were remarkably consistent. Agencies reported responding to well over 1000
Calls annually involving children during crises.

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the most common situations including arrest,
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when no caregiver can be located, officers describe transporting children to substations,
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or spending valuable patrol time attempting to locate relatives. These statistics become even more meaningful when we actually look at the situations
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on this slide are a few real world examples that illustrate why this resource is needed.

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these are not hypothetical situations. They reflect the type of cases our community
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in one case, both the mother and boyfriend were arrested during a traffic stop.

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there were no relatives available locally, so the child remained at the bexar county
Sheriff's office criminal investigation division until arrangements could be made.

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or a single mother who unexpectedly requires emergency surgery and has no one to care for
Her children.

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with the crisis nursery as a resource, the child would be safe.

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bexar county has a long history of investing in child welfare. For many years, the county provided funding to support cps family based safety services.

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caseworkers because commissioners recognize that strengthening families strengthens our
Community.

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as priorities evolved, the county invested in innovative programs within children's court,

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additional district attorneys, child abuse prosecutors,
And the child welfare board pilot program.

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these investments reflected something important bexar county has consistently chosen to
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not simply react when it comes to protecting our children.

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today, we have another opportunity to continue that tradition. An existing child welfare funding is phased out for the case workers,
There is an opportunity to evaluate whether these resources could instead support an

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evidence based prevention strategy that addresses one of the largest gaps currently facing
Families.

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if implemented, we could also establish clear expectations for what we want that success
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so what would success look like for us? First,
Fewer children entering foster care simply because a family experienced a temporary

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emergency. Second, fewer unnecessary cps investigations when short term support would have
Resolved the issue.

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third, stronger families through connections to behavioral health,
Housing, child care and community resources.

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fourth, improved efficiencies for law enforcement,
Hospitals and our courts by allowing those systems to focus on their primary missions.

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most importantly, success means children remain safe while families receive help before
Crisis becomes trauma.

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that's exactly what prevention should accomplish. Based on the information presented today, staff is requesting one specific action.

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we are not asking the court to approve a crisis nursery. We are asking for your direction, specifically the approval for staff to explore the
Development of a crisis nursery for bexar county.

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this is an investment to strengthen public safety,
Improve system efficiencies, support families and most importantly,

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protect children before crises escalate. Judge and commissioners,
Thank you for your time today and for your continued commitment to children and families

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throughout bexar county. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Judge, I have comments. I'd also like to go ahead and make a motion for approval.

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motion by commissioner clay-flores. Second by commissioner rodriguez. Commissioner
Clay-flores. You have the floor. So first of all, I want to thank judge sakai. I know

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you've been working on this for a while, and so thank you for continuing to fight for our
Youngest community

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members. I have a couple of questions about the funding that we used to fund cps.

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correct? Yes, ma'am. And so that's where this funding is coming from. So it's it's not an increase to our general budget.

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correct. Tanya, is that correct? Correct. So some constituents have asked me about this.

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so now what's going to happen with the funding we used to support cps?

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are they still going to be able. I'm sorry. The state picked up their their they picked
Up.

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okay. Yes, ma'am. Wonderful. Something that you said in your presentation was really key.

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as I talk a lot about preventive health, preventive mental health,
Things we need to do.

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and you talked about preventive child abuse before it occurs.

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and sometimes it's not that parents are evil or they're intentionally trying to do
Something,

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but in desperation, it's not. It's not an excuse,
But it is one of the reasons that plays into it that sometimes out of desperation,

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they leave their kids in situations where they where they shouldn't. So I'm happy to
Support this.

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I'm really grateful for the work that you all have done on it. I also want to recognize yolanda, who's one of my constituents.

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so thank you for the work that you continue to do with with,
With children in our community.

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so happy to support. Thank you. Thank you judge.

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good morning barbara. Thank you for the presentation. And I know we had a chance to visit one on one recently about this in more in depth answer
Some questions I had.

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but I also want to chime in and thank judge sakai for his leadership on this obviously is
A common theme throughout your career,

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judge, in lifting up those most vulnerable, in particular families and children.

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so this is right in in line with that I wanted to ask barbara,
I guess more from an operational standpoint.

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so the, the the nursery would be operated, I guess by a,
By a partner, a, there'd be, I guess,

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an rfp process or something. Is that what you're proposing? Yes, sir. Okay. And in terms of those, I know there's a lot of providers in our community
That could step up and do this work.

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I know yolanda, my friend is involved with a lot of those and do you,
Do you anticipate that we'll have a lack of

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interest in folks wanting to partner up or, or more,
I guess probably more pointedly, it's going to be tough because of the probably the number

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of folks who are interested in helping with this work. You're familiar with some of those providers having been at the children's court for a
Number of years. Yes.

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but capacity wise, do you think there'll be enough folks that will step up to to partner
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absolutely. 100%. You know, one of the, I guess,
Recent headlines the last few years, particularly with respect to the lack of

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resources for those in cps care. You had kids sleeping in office buildings and office
Spaces.

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this is something that will help address some of those more acute needs. Is that right? Yes, sir. Okay. Well, I, you know,
I wanted to ask those questions.

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I know it's obvious to some of us who've worked in this space,
But for those that don't and maybe just read,

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read about you know, the crisis that's happening. These are, these are you know, individuals, families,
Young people who right now may be serviced by the children's shelter or some other

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provider. But, but again and as someone that long,
Long ago was on the board of the children's shelter.

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those are folks in our community who work every day to put themselves out of business,
Because they would hope that there's not a need for it,

358
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:48,280
but there's always going to be a need when you have the type of deficiencies that we have
In our community with respect to housing and poverty.

359
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:55,720
certainly the substance and mental health issues that you underscored are a common
Denominator oftentimes.

360
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:02,720
and so I think it it also highlights the fact that we've got work to do with respect to
Some of those core supportive services that that a lot of folks in our community

361
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need. So I know this is kind of just the beginning of the hard work.

362
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,480
we appreciate your your work on this. Barbara. Yolanda, thank you for stepping up. Sheriff and law enforcement,
I know you're already doing a lot of this work out there at child safe and other places.

363
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:28,680
so let us know what you need in terms of resources to,
To continue to, to make sure you know,

364
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:35,040
we are hopefully more proactive in preventing before it gets to law enforcement and to
That need.

365
00:46:42,330 --> 00:46:42,330
we have a lot of folks in our community, I think,
That want to be helpful. So thank you for your work on this, judge. I'm happy to be

366
00:46:47,090 --> 00:46:47,090
supportive. Thank you commissioner. Thank you.

367
00:46:52,450 --> 00:46:52,450
judge. Definitely supportive of the goal here,
But do have some, some questions and a couple concerns

368
00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:02,730
when the 1.6 million that is what has been dedicated in the past to paying the cps
Portion,

369
00:47:13,010 --> 00:47:13,010
is that correct? Yes, sir. Okay. So we haven't issued an rfp at this point,
Right?

370
00:47:18,770 --> 00:47:22,370
directing staff to go out and see what a proposal would be. So are we going to be directive in that rfp in terms of is this a fee for services,
The number of children,

371
00:47:31,290 --> 00:47:31,290
the number of bed nights that are being provided,
Or is it based on a current amount of staffing with a set

372
00:47:40,430 --> 00:47:42,830
capacity? Do we kind of know what that would be? Because obviously it could be a lot less than 1.6 million.

373
00:47:46,510 --> 00:47:46,510
it could be more than 1.6 million. Do we have a sense of that?

374
00:47:50,830 --> 00:47:50,830
no, sir. Not right. I'm sorry. Commissioners a point of order.

375
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:54,870
I'm going to object into this question. This is an issue dealing with legal issues and the
Requirements that the county have in these particular situations.

376
00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:04,470
and I do not wish to bind the staff with any statements that we're not prepared to answer
Today.

377
00:48:11,790 --> 00:48:11,790
larry, could I have your way in as far as my objection to the form of the question?

378
00:48:17,790 --> 00:48:17,790
so, judge, I think part of the direction that staff is going to bring back the procurement
Method.

379
00:48:24,510 --> 00:48:24,510
I think I heard rfp. We have staff has not decided that there's going to be the mechanism
That the the is going to be recommended to the court.

380
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:33,510
it may be there are other mechanisms that we might use to a select a vendor that are
Perfectly available.

381
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,000
so it may not be competitively procured. And I don't want the court to have that
Impression.

382
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:46,320
it's for the court to decide, but we're going to bring back some potential options at a
Later date.

383
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:52,960
okay. So I still don't understand. The objection then is that I think it was I think you
Were talking about an rfp,

384
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:00,480
but that that issue has not been decided at this point.

385
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:04,640
so I don't want you to have the impression that an rfp is the actual selection method.

386
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:09,280
that has not been decided. I think barbara is going to bring back methods. That's part of
The direction,

387
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:13,760
is that she will bring back a procurement method as part of the recommendation for the
Court,

388
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:19,920
and it may or may not be an rfp. If that's what the court decides,
That's fine, but I don't want the court to be under the impression no issue with the rfp

389
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:26,840
that was just referring to how we're going to solicit the real question.

390
00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:35,740
my objection is that it's not right for discussion. Okay, then I won't use the term rfp. But the point that I was trying to get at is that
Clearly there's different structures in how we would look at

391
00:49:45,740 --> 00:49:45,740
contracts and proposals from potential vendors and trying to understand,
Like how we scale that structure that in a way,

392
00:49:54,620 --> 00:49:54,620
whether that's based on individual children's service.

393
00:49:58,940 --> 00:49:58,940
total number of nights or total capacity of a facility.

394
00:50:04,220 --> 00:50:07,100
commissioner. Well, I don't understand the objection. Objection is, I'm objecting that it deals with legal consultation.

395
00:50:11,540 --> 00:50:11,540
if you want to have this conversation, I will put this on executive session and we can
Have a full throttle throated conversation on the questions you wish to ask,

396
00:50:19,620 --> 00:50:19,620
but not now. Is that an appeal to a parliamentarian on the objection?

397
00:50:28,220 --> 00:50:31,080
objection is noted. I'm ruling you out of order. Let's move on. Ask your next question. Okay. My point just being we should be thoughtful
About how we structure that and how we solicit that in order to

398
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:40,960
ensure that we're thinking about the cost long term for the county.

399
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:47,720
yes, sir. Go ahead. I'm sorry. So

400
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,000
do we know whether this is based on operational costs alone or capital costs and
Operational costs,

401
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,520
or is that unknown or is that going to be objectionable? I don't know if I can answer it. Yes I can. It'll likely be both,
Sir.

402
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:11,800
a mixture of programmatic and operational and costs that I'll need to to run the nursery.

403
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,000
okay. And I saw a lot of data here talking about the the reasons for use of the crisis
Nursery,

404
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:27,920
but not a lot in terms of length of stay. Do we have any data on that in terms of how
Often you know,

405
00:51:36,250 --> 00:51:36,250
are these overnights versus a few hours versus days versus weeks?

406
00:51:40,410 --> 00:51:43,850
I don't know, are there constraints on that front? At this time? No. Nationally, most are within a few days and some maybe a couple of weeks depending on
If a parent voluntarily

407
00:51:53,610 --> 00:51:53,610
enters detox, for example, and they have to stay for a week,
Then that child would stay for a week.

408
00:51:59,010 --> 00:51:59,010
so based on the need and the reason they're coming in would be the length of stay.

409
00:52:03,730 --> 00:52:03,730
okay. The. And the goal here between the

410
00:52:13,370 --> 00:52:13,370
cps versus the crisis nursery, what are the benefits,
I guess, in transitioning away from the cps services versus the crisis nursery?

411
00:52:23,050 --> 00:52:23,050
is it the flexibility that's there or is it it's the cps funding that we that we

412
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:32,630
allocated to cps was for caseworkers. So for salary and benefits.

413
00:52:38,430 --> 00:52:38,430
and so what we decided to do was to push back and say state,
You need to cover your own employees.

414
00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:44,790
and we're going to reprogram this to continue to,
To protect children and families, but in a different way.

415
00:52:50,830 --> 00:52:54,790
so the state has picked up those positions. They're paying for them. And so this allows us to innovate and put something together for the community.

416
00:53:00,950 --> 00:53:00,950
not just child welfare, but for those experiencing some type of crisis within their
Family.

417
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:06,790
does that answer your question, sir? So additional flexibility,
I think, in the utilization.

418
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:11,910
is that what you said? Yes, sir. Well, let me just bring one last,
Last concern as I was flipping through here.

419
00:53:23,110 --> 00:53:23,110
some of the items mentioned right when it comes to law enforcement,
When it comes to who could place a child,

420
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:31,240
right? Sorry, I'm trying to remember which slide it was on.

421
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:38,400
hospital law enforcement courts. Nonprofit partners or community self-referrals?

422
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:43,760
yes, sir. So obviously, I think the the biggest concern question would be around community
Self-referrals.

423
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:54,800
if you go back to slide nine, miss school work or job opportunity 9%,
You go back to slide seven.

424
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:03,560
education 3% parenting difficulties, 16% self care,
26% employment 29%.

425
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:11,880
my, my concern is just that those things can apply very broadly to hundreds of thousands
Of parents.

426
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:20,120
and as many of us probably here can attest to having been parents,
Right?

427
00:54:25,940 --> 00:54:25,940
like how do we not get overwhelmed and get in mission creep into like child care services
Versus this is

428
00:54:35,860 --> 00:54:35,860
a true crisis nursery. And we are screening to ensure that we are not being utilized in
The wrong way.

429
00:54:43,740 --> 00:54:47,220
yes, sir. And I think that will be one of the criteria that we look like. This is a voluntary 24 hour operation for emergency crisises,
Not something that could be referred or handled from

430
00:54:57,100 --> 00:54:57,100
8 to 5 by a nonprofit or a family that could,
You know, get on the housing list.

431
00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:03,700
it's, you've got evicted and now the kids have nowhere else safe to stay.

432
00:55:09,060 --> 00:55:09,060
I've seen that before where parents are like,
You know, we'll stay in my car, but I don't want my kids to live there.

433
00:55:16,340 --> 00:55:16,340
so until I can finalize and let commissioner.

434
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:21,880
let me add to that the flight of my experience and expertise.

435
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,440
the previous court and I'm not passing judgment on previous court. I do have a comment about the previous court,
But the commitment to family based service workers giving money to cps was total mission

436
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:38,240
creep. The county created its own cps caseworker units that was accountable to the county.

437
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:45,960
so I understand I respect your comment to miss shafer,
But I'm also giving you background as to why we are addressing that specific

438
00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:55,720
issue. We are moving away totally from mission creep,
And we are empowering parents who want help and don't have to turn to cps.

439
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,480
is that a correct statement, miss shaffer? Yes,
Sir. And is that based on my experience and your experience from children's court?

440
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:11,600
yes, sir. Thank you. Well, I appreciate the the background there.

441
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:16,760
I think the concern still would would exist when it comes to screening and making sure
That that we're utilizing the crisis nursery,

442
00:56:25,690 --> 00:56:25,690
the right people are getting the services they need. And it's not being abused by bad
Actors.

443
00:56:31,530 --> 00:56:31,530
right. And that's my biggest concern. I'm going to reserve judgment until we see the
Actual proposal and everything. But I think that that should just be,

444
00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:38,250
you know, front and center as we're thinking about going forward and how we can ensure
That that doesn't become a problem.

445
00:56:43,730 --> 00:56:43,730
yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I just wanted to one of your concerns,
Commissioner moody.

446
00:56:49,850 --> 00:56:49,850
so in reference to the previous court since I got here in 2021,
And when this every year when this item came,

447
00:56:59,210 --> 00:57:02,730
I was I every. Do you remember barbara I question yes,
Ma'am. Sir. Why? It's okay. I'm in a man's world. Why are we paying for cps caseworker?

448
00:57:10,570 --> 00:57:10,570
I kept questioning that and I was like, if we take it away,
Cps will cover it.

449
00:57:15,770 --> 00:57:15,770
and so I applaud judge sakai for finally doing that.

450
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:21,990
so I won't have the same question every year.

451
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:27,270
and so with that, again, it's not impacting our bottom line.

452
00:57:32,750 --> 00:57:32,750
and we are using that funds to directly help support prevention.

453
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:43,510
yes, ma'am. So I think I'm, I'm like, why didn't we do this before? Right. I mean, and I also want to ask miss venezuela,
If she wants to come forward and say a few words.

454
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:52,630
so you are really one of the local experts, not just locally. I know you've traveled to speak at different things,
Working with, with casa, working with child care world child welfare board.

455
00:58:02,190 --> 00:58:05,510
so do you have anything that you want to add,
If I may. Commissioner. Calvert. Ask for permission. Commissioner. Calvert. You have the floor. Then
I'll go to yolanda and the sheriff for comment.

456
00:58:12,030 --> 00:58:12,030
commissioner. Calvert. Thank you, judge, and thank you,
Barbara and yolanda, thank you so much for bringing this to us.

457
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:20,160
this is a very good thing. So looking at slide 13 I'm going to infer that there may be a
Universe

458
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:30,440
of approximately a thousand potential folks and children who would utilize this.

459
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:36,920
is that a safe assumption or I would say less than okay,
Sure.

460
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:41,360
I agree with you. It's less than, but the universe is somewhere a thousand or under.

461
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:45,840
okay. Talk to me about the because this is new to,
To, to me, it's not my area of expertise.

462
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:55,120
what are some of the benchmarks in terms of these types or benchmark locations where these
Types of nurseries are doing well?

463
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:06,560
the ones that we've studied and I've done site visits with their benchmarks are resolving
The crisis,

464
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:13,600
the amount of days it takes to do that, connecting those families with the right
Resources.

465
00:59:20,300 --> 00:59:20,300
because sometimes people just get into the wrong space and they don't come back for help.

466
00:59:25,260 --> 00:59:27,820
so we want to make sure that we can make that connection. And it's, it's real and it's positive and it's really impactful to the family.

467
00:59:32,580 --> 00:59:35,340
and, but where, where are these? I mean, where are these? Oh, saint louis. I did cleveland. There's california.

468
00:59:39,780 --> 00:59:39,780
we would be the first in texas. Talk to me a little bit about what are some of the local
Charities

469
00:59:50,300 --> 00:59:50,300
that may or entities that may want to participate in this particular opportunity?

470
00:59:57,420 --> 00:59:57,420
I haven't directly solicited or spoke to several funding sources,
But the foundation koronkowski,

471
01:00:06,340 --> 01:00:06,340
the camera peer foundation have always been such excellent supporters of child welfare
Initiatives that we'll be speaking to them so that there's continued funding for the

472
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:14,760
project later on. But I mean, the social service entities,
I think most of those are foundations that don't do direct services.

473
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,120
who who might be the universe of direct service providers? Who would open a nursery like that? I would think probably the children's shelter.

474
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:32,480
I think maybe the respite center, those those kind of people that are a little bit already
In the space.

475
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:40,080
well, I think that that helps me just kind of have a little bit more background.

476
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,920
it does sound like a very important gap that we're filling. So thank you for getting us in, judge. Thank you for helping to move this forward.

477
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:54,480
we appreciate it. Thank you so much. Thank you sir. Thank you. Yolanda.

478
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,520
sheriff, I would have called you, but yolanda got called. Okay. Yolanda I have been fighting child abuse for about 25 years now.

479
01:01:11,450 --> 01:01:11,450
I was with caza for 15 years as a vice president,
And I was on a child welfare board when you were one of our members for 14 years.

480
01:01:20,570 --> 01:01:20,570
16 years. And about to be put back on. I think it's on the next agenda to be on the child
Welfare board.

481
01:01:30,410 --> 01:01:30,410
I think to answer some of grant's questions,
This is before it gets to cps, this is prevention,

482
01:01:38,570 --> 01:01:38,570
this is before family based. This is before a motion to participate.

483
01:01:44,010 --> 01:01:44,010
this is before that. It's catching the issues prior.

484
01:01:50,170 --> 01:01:50,170
and once she starts getting those families coming in,
You know how word of mouth is this crisis nursery exists for

485
01:01:59,930 --> 01:01:59,930
this particular reason. They won't be afraid to walk in saying child protective services
Is going to rip our kids from us.

486
01:02:08,170 --> 01:02:11,190
we need some help right now with this, that and the other. We're stressing out because right now the stressors and I get phone calls.

487
01:02:16,270 --> 01:02:16,270
the man and the woman want to kill each other because they need clothes and shoes and
Everything for four kids school supplies.

488
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:22,150
it gets july as stressor time for these parents.

489
01:02:26,430 --> 01:02:26,430
and so it's just decreasing those stressors,
Preventing them from getting into child protective service system.

490
01:02:35,070 --> 01:02:35,070
because once you get in the child protective service system,
Even in family based, which is what the county paid for.

491
01:02:42,310 --> 01:02:42,310
it's hard, it's hard sometimes it's hard to get back out.

492
01:02:46,550 --> 01:02:46,550
right? And so what we, when I was on the child welfare board,
We started researching this,

493
01:02:52,790 --> 01:02:52,790
but it didn't look like there was funding. And then the talk stopped.

494
01:02:57,030 --> 01:02:57,030
and so it's highly needed in this community. I think bexar county has some of the highest
Need because of the child abuse and neglect

495
01:03:06,830 --> 01:03:06,830
that exists, which is the majority of child abuse that takes place.

496
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:12,520
it's the neglect. It's not the sexual abuse,
It's not the medical neglect.

497
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:17,640
it's the regular old neglect. We need this, that and the other.

498
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:21,960
we need counseling. The wraparound services are going to be tremendously important for
These families because they don't know where to go.

499
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:30,840
I could tell you a lot of places to go. Tommy will tell you,
I know all the agencies, justin also,

500
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:36,640
but I'm me. I'm in my home. These families don't know these agencies,
Right?

501
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:41,760
and if they walk in even to get two hours one day,
Whatever, they're going to walk away with a big old list of wraparound

502
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:50,960
services. You need school supplies, you need baby formula,
You need mental health treatment,

503
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,840
you need domestic violence. They're going to walk away with that. They're going to it's a win win. It's an investment in my mind.

504
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:02,320
and I, I, I wasn't here to speak, but that's what I have to say.

505
01:04:07,180 --> 01:04:07,180
thank you. Sheriff. Good morning, judge. Morning,
Commissioners.

506
01:04:11,740 --> 01:04:11,740
I could just attest to the fact as a as a career first responder that those who are most
Affected by all of these situations,

507
01:04:19,340 --> 01:04:19,340
domestic violence situations, crisis situations,
The most affected are the kids.

508
01:04:24,580 --> 01:04:27,980
and unfortunately, they're also the least in control of the situation. And so also as a first responder, I can attest to the fact that that's,
That's a very frustrating situation for a first responder to be in that situation where,

509
01:04:37,060 --> 01:04:37,060
you know, you've got to take care of this kid,
You know, that the emergency room isn't the best place to leave them.

510
01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:42,900
you know that the back seat of your patrol car is not the best place to change a diaper.

511
01:04:47,700 --> 01:04:47,700
you know that taking up a collection from your fellow officers to buy formula,
Baby food,

512
01:04:52,980 --> 01:04:52,980
diapers, whatever it is that that child needs in that moment isn't the most ideal
Situation.

513
01:04:57,140 --> 01:04:57,140
but it's all we got. And as first responders,
We do what we have to do to, to, to, to find the happy ending or as happy of an ending as

514
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:04,920
you can find in that situation. So absolutely,
I'm in full support of this and anything that I can do,

515
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:10,000
or the men and women of the bexar county sheriff's office can do to support this endeavor.
We're on board with it. So,

516
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:15,640
sheriff, let me and I want to appreciate commissioner moody's comments,
Because it's important that the focus of this project in regards to

517
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:25,600
that, if there is any debate over whether the county should invest in this program.

518
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:31,400
isn't this mission clarity to get law enforcement,
Specifically deputies, out of the social work that they have to do when they come to

519
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:41,440
a scene? Because unless cps is there or social services there,
Then.

520
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:47,560
and isn't that really the essence? What's our star program?

521
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:52,720
the mental health program that we bring mental health experts to a crime scene?

522
01:05:58,800 --> 01:05:58,800
smart, smart. Excuse me. That doctor guerrero's smart program that she works with you.

523
01:06:04,290 --> 01:06:04,290
isn't it that an extent. This program is an extension of that directive to what?

524
01:06:10,410 --> 01:06:13,970
instead of calling mission creek, this would be mission clarity. It gets deputies out of social work. Bring those children into a wraparound services that
Miss venezuela has expertise on as to what they're providing.

525
01:06:23,970 --> 01:06:27,570
is that really is that what you see with this program? Because I agree from accountability purposes.

526
01:06:31,210 --> 01:06:31,210
are we just creating another social service department of the county?

527
01:06:35,290 --> 01:06:35,290
and is it really going to be effective from your experience on the ground,
First responders dealing with the families in the most urgent,

528
01:06:44,410 --> 01:06:44,410
exigent circumstance? Is this program needed?

529
01:06:48,450 --> 01:06:48,450
absolutely. And it solves a lot more problems than than it could ever create.

530
01:06:53,050 --> 01:06:53,050
thank you. I have a just a final comment. If you don't know what I'm talking about,
You need to google this.

531
01:07:00,910 --> 01:07:00,910
a couple of months ago in may, there was a woman from the valley came up to san antonio.

532
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:08,950
her kids were burned. Her two little boys were burned.

533
01:07:14,550 --> 01:07:14,550
alive in her vehicle.

534
01:07:24,750 --> 01:07:24,750
so if someone doesn't think that we need this program for situations like that,
Maybe if this was already in place,

535
01:07:31,350 --> 01:07:33,870
maybe when I had continued to question why are we paying? Why are we using this money for cps? We had started this program earlier.

536
01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:38,630
maybe that woman. Could have dropped her kids off,
And those two little boys could have grown up

537
01:07:49,310 --> 01:07:49,310
to be contributing members of south texas. And that's what we're talking about.

538
01:07:58,030 --> 01:07:58,030
two little boys were burning their car. And I just need you to sit with that and imagine.

539
01:08:06,330 --> 01:08:06,330
what must have been going on through a woman who gave birth to children and then did that.

540
01:08:14,330 --> 01:08:14,330
what kind of demons did she have in her head?

541
01:08:18,530 --> 01:08:18,530
that's why this program is important. Thank you for doing the hard work that we need done
Every day.

542
01:08:27,890 --> 01:08:31,210
any further comment? Hearing none, I'll call for a vote. All those in favor of the motion by commissioner clay-flores.

543
01:08:33,890 --> 01:08:36,890
second by commissioner rodriguez, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries.

544
01:08:39,490 --> 01:08:42,290
I want to report for the next meeting, miss shaffer. Yes. Got it. Okay. With the court's permission,
I want to advance and bring up an item out of order.

545
01:08:51,370 --> 01:08:54,970
I'm alerting the court, subject to objection. I'd like to take up item number 68. 68. It is a late file.

546
01:09:04,660 --> 01:09:04,660
could I have a motion in order that we do it now to consider all late.

547
01:09:09,580 --> 01:09:09,580
filed motions under 65, 66, 67,

548
01:09:18,820 --> 01:09:18,820
68. Motion by commissioner rodriguez. Second.

549
01:09:23,260 --> 01:09:27,180
second by commissioner clay-flores. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstention? Motion carries.

550
01:09:30,940 --> 01:09:30,940
I will now call up discussion and appropriate action.

551
01:09:36,060 --> 01:09:36,060
regarding approval of the letter amendment to the non relocation agreement between bexar
County and the san antonio spurs amending the non relocation agreement to authorize the

552
01:09:46,020 --> 01:09:46,020
san antonio spurs to play up to four regular season home games,
Including playoffs outside the frost bank center during each of the 26,

553
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:55,240
27, 27, 28 nba seasons and ratifying and reaffirming all remaining terms and conditions of
The agreement.

554
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:04,360
but at this time, I do have citizens to be heard,
And I'm taking you out of order so that you're not having to wait till this afternoon or

555
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:13,400
to the citizens to be heard. I'm going to allow I've got three signed up for 668,
And you have three minutes.

556
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:21,440
rebecca flores, you have the floor. And then I have elaine cummings,
And then I have susan strong.

557
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:29,320
I think she walked out. Rebecca. Then what about elaine cummings or susan strong?

558
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:38,640
and on lane, you have yielded your time. You can come up with susan,
But you have yield your time to susan strong,

559
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:45,120
or do you wish to take back any time. All right.

560
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,720
I will allow susan strong to proceed at this time. Good morning, judge sakai, and good morning,
Commissioners, and thank you for moving this up.

561
01:10:56,930 --> 01:10:59,210
really appreciate getting the rest of my day back. So I am here to speak against this amendment or this motion.

562
01:11:05,330 --> 01:11:05,330
I'm concerned that you're being asked to amend a public contract,
Giving up a valuable public right without any meaningful analysis of the cost to bexar

563
01:11:14,250 --> 01:11:14,250
county taxpayers, workers, and businesses. And what troubles me most is not the number of
Games that the spurs want to move out of the city.

564
01:11:22,370 --> 01:11:22,370
it's that there appears to have been no effort whatsoever to determine the value of what
The county is giving up,

565
01:11:28,930 --> 01:11:28,930
or to negotiate compensation for it. That is not how governments are supposed to negotiate
On behalf of their constituents.

566
01:11:37,490 --> 01:11:40,850
the agenda states that this item has no fiscal impact. That is not correct. The county may lose only a modest amount of hotel occupancy tax if
Games are moved,

567
01:11:47,370 --> 01:11:47,370
but it does lose hotel tax revenue. Stone planning.

568
01:11:51,610 --> 01:11:51,610
who is the spurs own consultant who performed the only economic analysis for the new
Arena,

569
01:11:58,110 --> 01:11:58,110
estimated that spurs games at the frost bank center and other events generate
Approximately 21,000 hotel room nights each year.

570
01:12:07,230 --> 01:12:07,230
that produces hotel occupancy taxes that pay for this arena.

571
01:12:11,630 --> 01:12:11,630
more importantly, the fiscal impact statement ignores the much larger impact on bexar
County residents,

572
01:12:17,550 --> 01:12:20,230
most of whom live in the city of san antonio. Using the spurs own economic study, each home game represents roughly 3.8 million in
Direct local spending for four games.

573
01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:29,750
that's $15.1 million. Total net spending per game is estimated at 5.5 million per game,
Or 22 million for the four games

574
01:12:39,870 --> 01:12:39,870
that spending supports arena employees, concessions workers,
Security officers, parking attendants,

575
01:12:45,950 --> 01:12:45,950
custodians, restaurants, bars, hotels, rideshare drivers,
Vendors and people on the east side who sell off site parking.

576
01:12:54,530 --> 01:12:54,530
the only benefit that they've ever gotten from the promised development around this arena.

577
01:13:00,010 --> 01:13:00,010
it also generates local sales taxes that support city services via ready to work and pre
K4k pre k4ssa.

578
01:13:08,930 --> 01:13:08,930
and those may be city revenues, but they benefit the same bexar county residents that the
Court represents.

579
01:13:15,770 --> 01:13:15,770
the spurs are asking for authority to relocate up to four home games each each season.

580
01:13:21,090 --> 01:13:21,090
that's 10% of their regular home schedule. So that's 10% of the income of arena workers
That is being lost by them moving out of the city.

581
01:13:31,970 --> 01:13:31,970
so if the home games generate jobs and economic activity,
That's fewer work opportunities for hourly employees,

582
01:13:40,090 --> 01:13:40,090
fewer customers for neighborhood businesses,
Fewer local tax revenues.

583
01:13:45,930 --> 01:13:45,930
and these losses are concentrated on working families and small businesses.

584
01:13:50,020 --> 01:13:50,020
while the benefits from this move flow elsewhere without any compensation.

585
01:13:55,620 --> 01:13:55,620
every relocated game means local sales tax revenue that is no longer generated in san
Antonio.

586
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:02,700
there is fiscal impact from allowing this, and it's not due diligence to claim otherwise.

587
01:14:08,780 --> 01:14:08,780
so before giving away negotiated public rights,
This court should know what local tax revenues will be lost.

588
01:14:15,220 --> 01:14:15,220
how many work hours and wages will be lost by arena employees and local businesses.

589
01:14:19,860 --> 01:14:19,860
what is the impact on hotel occupancy taxes that finance this arena still,
And what compensation,

590
01:14:26,820 --> 01:14:26,820
if any, is bexar county receiving in exchange for giving up these rights?

591
01:14:32,220 --> 01:14:32,220
I spent 26 years negotiating deals on behalf of the united states.

592
01:14:37,340 --> 01:14:37,340
in all of that time, I never saw a government agree to surrender a valuable contractual
Right without first determining its value and negotiating

593
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:46,920
appropriate compensation. Bexar county residents deserve representation,
Not hostages suffering from stockholm syndrome that they're going to leave.

594
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,040
there are all sorts of things to be negotiated here. You could pay. You could ask demand that the spurs pay the arena workers for the missed
Games.

595
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,640
make the county and city whole for lost tax revenue. Make the off site parking operators whole. Negotiate that the game moved to be a less
Profitable game.

596
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:15,280
you could even negotiate a rent increase. The current rent was negotiated in 2002 and has
Never been raised and is not adjusted for inflation.

597
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:23,760
that's equivalent. That's equivalent to $644,000 today.

598
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:28,200
that's a little over a quarter of a single 25% of a single game.

599
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:33,680
gate receipts that we're losing tax sales taxes on.

600
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:38,680
I respectfully ask that you postpone this item until the county prepares a transparent
Fiscal and economic mic analysis and negotiates fair consideration for this deal

601
01:15:48,370 --> 01:15:48,370
like any business partner would. Respectfully,
I believe this is your job.

602
01:15:53,690 --> 01:15:53,690
thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Come back into the court.

603
01:15:59,570 --> 01:15:59,570
rebecca flores. Rebecca flores. Well, if she shows,
We allow her to speak.

604
01:16:06,090 --> 01:16:06,090
I went out of order in order to bring up 68. So at this time,
Who's making the presentation?

605
01:16:13,370 --> 01:16:13,370
commissioner rodriguez. Not a presentation, judge,
But I wanted to ask bobby perez from spurs to come up.

606
01:16:22,530 --> 01:16:22,530
you heard some of the the concerns. Bobby. I also wanted to ask you to,
To reset a little bit the the discussion with

607
01:16:32,330 --> 01:16:32,330
respect to you know, how we got here because I think this is a kind of really just an
Amendment to what the previous agreement looked like,

608
01:16:42,290 --> 01:16:42,290
I think initially a few years ago it was for a game in austin,
And then obviously the international games came into play.

609
01:16:52,870 --> 01:16:52,870
I want to say, because of the spurs outstanding history in helping expand globally,
But it may have something to do with number one

610
01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:06,710
on the on the court as well and his presence. So if you could, because I think what you're asking for from us today is not a significant
Departure than what we've done over the past couple of years to

611
01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:16,630
kind of help the spurs expand market in different whether it's austin,
Whether it's international.

612
01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:23,430
so if you can just kind of reset the discussion a little bit,
So we're all on the same page, that would be helpful. Commissioner. Thank you, members of

613
01:17:29,110 --> 01:17:32,710
the court judge for your record, bobby pettit,
San antonio spurs. I will address mr. Owens comments because she's missed,
But I'll follow up with that and tell you why.

614
01:17:39,070 --> 01:17:39,070
so if we go back probably 2021 was the first time that we came to this court.

615
01:17:45,690 --> 01:17:45,690
it was a different court in 2021. And we first presented this item.

616
01:17:51,170 --> 01:17:51,170
the request was was twofold. Allow the spurs to play four games outside of their market
Outside of their home arena.

617
01:18:00,970 --> 01:18:00,970
the frost bank center and the court agreed. And the caveats were two one within 75 miles,
You can play two games.

618
01:18:10,050 --> 01:18:13,370
two. The other two games could be international. So since that time, if we backtrack. Last year we played two games out of the frost bank
Center.

619
01:18:19,690 --> 01:18:23,570
the year before that, three games and the year before that,
Three games. So there's never been more than four. You know,
Point number one.

620
01:18:28,210 --> 01:18:28,210
and the 75 miles is a league rule. It's an nba rule that is our territory and that's what
We use.

621
01:18:36,530 --> 01:18:36,530
but that allowed the austin games and then the international games.

622
01:18:40,780 --> 01:18:40,780
what we have seen going forward. And and thank you to the court.

623
01:18:44,940 --> 01:18:44,940
the sheriff was here earlier. All the bexar county sheriffs this playoff run,
We had an additional 23 games in

624
01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:58,220
at the end of the season. Our season didn't end on april 15th. Unfortunately, it ended the first week of june.

625
01:19:00,580 --> 01:19:00,580
not the way we would have liked to but very proud of our relationship with the county,
The coliseum advisory board,

626
01:19:09,060 --> 01:19:09,060
all the county sheriffs who really showed all those fans from new york how we treat people
And how san antonio does it the right way.

627
01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:17,100
commissioner clay-flores earlier talked about how sport and our brand really unified our
Community,

628
01:19:23,180 --> 01:19:27,180
and that was a really, really great example of that. The point being, commissioner, as we have evolved and we continue to evolve as a brand,
I a couple of data points

629
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:38,240
this last playoff run, just from a television market side,
Was the highest viewed nba finals series since

630
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:47,960
1998. And that puts san antonio in the spotlight for that period of time.

631
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:54,400
the social media views the number is staggering 15 billion views focusing,
Of course, the team we

632
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:04,240
played, but also san antonio. Everything san antonio has to offer and the san antonio
River walk.

633
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:11,520
the dollar value and stone planning is our consultant.

634
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:16,040
we hired mr. Stone to do an economic impact analysis,
And I'll call out.

635
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:20,520
the first thing that mr. Shaun missed is that scope of work was done within the last three
Years that counted lesser games at the frost bank center for the last three

636
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:30,440
years, and she did not recognize that. But I wanted to make sure that the court knew it
And that that economic impact analysis posted online

637
01:20:40,410 --> 01:20:43,930
and for the public to see and has been for at least a year. The other point that we wanted to kind of just call out in response to what she is saying
Is she missed the extra probably 10 to 12 home games as a

638
01:20:53,690 --> 01:20:53,690
result of this last playoff run, which was not insignificant for the community.

639
01:20:58,490 --> 01:20:58,490
all our staff, the cost of services, I'll just urine budget cycle right now.

640
01:21:04,930 --> 01:21:04,930
and you're looking that every day. All the additional sheriff's employees and staff,
All our staff.

641
01:21:12,570 --> 01:21:16,370
that's all at our expense. That's not on the on the county expense. That agreement is set up that all the additional operational expenses belong to the san
Antonio spurs and not the citizens of san antonio or bexar county.

642
01:21:24,490 --> 01:21:24,490
so just a couple of those highlights. Back to your question,
Commissioner.

643
01:21:30,490 --> 01:21:30,490
the court allowed for games with those two caveats in 21 renewed again in 23 when this
Court was convened,

644
01:21:38,750 --> 01:21:38,750
and we're asking for renewal again. The distinction is removing the 75 games in the
International piece.

645
01:21:46,230 --> 01:21:48,630
it's been reported that this is an increase in games. It's not. It's still four games. The item is captioned.

646
01:21:52,990 --> 01:21:52,990
it only applies to regular season games. So not playoff games.

647
01:21:57,390 --> 01:21:57,390
and it's basically reauthorizing what this court has already authorized.

648
01:22:03,510 --> 01:22:07,190
on several other occasions. So. So in a case. Thank you for that, bobby. In a case like this coming season,
For example, the flexibility for

649
01:22:17,230 --> 01:22:17,230
the spurs to play up to four games again, it's not guaranteeing that,
But it's up to us.

650
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:23,750
in this case. When the spurs, for example, are gone during the rodeo road trip.

651
01:22:31,070 --> 01:22:31,070
it allows you to work with the nba schedulers to potentially do a game or two in austin
During that time.

652
01:22:37,850 --> 01:22:41,730
so in a in a sense, breaks up that road trip. And then the other thing that's occurring, I think this next season is two games in
Europe,

653
01:22:48,690 --> 01:22:48,690
one in france and one in, I think the uk or nearby somewhere there.

654
01:22:53,570 --> 01:22:53,570
so, so I guess as you move forward and you work with the nba that's what the flexibility
Provides you is

655
01:23:03,570 --> 01:23:03,570
to work with the schedulers on filling those gaps,
Whether it's during the rodeo road trip or those international opportunities,

656
01:23:11,250 --> 01:23:11,250
which I think my sense is from what I've read,
The nba is making a concerted effort to potentially expand or

657
01:23:21,450 --> 01:23:21,450
have a maybe a sister league in those areas. So I think to your point,
And I'm, you know,

658
01:23:30,410 --> 01:23:30,410
I'm, pointing this out because it's a. Again,
It's been reported that that you're increasing the number of games or we're giving you a

659
01:23:39,660 --> 01:23:39,660
permission to increase the number of games, but it's actually the same up to the same
Number.

660
01:23:44,500 --> 01:23:44,500
I want to make that that clear. And it's for the next two seasons.

661
01:23:48,620 --> 01:23:52,420
obviously, you know, and I respect susan. She's a constituent of mine. I always appreciate listening to her great neighbor in river road.

662
01:23:58,420 --> 01:23:58,420
you know, I think we're going to have an opportunity,
As we all know, with the discussion on the potential new arena,

663
01:24:04,460 --> 01:24:04,460
to kind of hit the reset and figure out what is the path forward look like.

664
01:24:08,580 --> 01:24:11,780
but again, this is short term. It's the next two years. And again, it's essentially in line with what we've approved over the past few seasons.

665
01:24:16,820 --> 01:24:16,820
that is correct. That is correct. And I just would comment on the competition piece.

666
01:24:21,380 --> 01:24:21,380
that's not insignificant. We are required to remove out of the building for 30 days and
The opportunity to play games in austin,

667
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:33,040
texas, are able to help us manage the schedule from a competition standpoint. It proved some big benefit this season. Yeah,
And I remember being on the court back in 21 when we did the initial agreement,

668
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:43,560
the the calls and emails we got about the spurs kind of inching into the austin area and
The threat that that potentially

669
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:53,720
would cause. I would hope that at this point that is quieted down and there's a
Commitment,

670
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:00,680
and it's not just through what the voters approved in the venue tax,
But also what the city's doing,

671
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,240
also what the spurs ownership has committed to. And that is staying in san antonio, at least for the next 50 years,
Because I know we just celebrated 50 a few years ago.

672
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:19,440
so, so I, you know, I just wanted to make sure that we kind of level set a little bit.

673
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:25,000
I understand the concerns, but I also think the cost outweigh those concerns.

674
01:25:31,250 --> 01:25:31,250
excuse me? The benefits outweigh the concerns in terms of making sure that from a
Scheduling standpoint,

675
01:25:37,570 --> 01:25:37,570
you can remain competitive, but also that our fans and our community get what's best here
In san antonio out of our spurs.

676
01:25:45,450 --> 01:25:45,450
and I think it's a it's a two way street. So judge,
I know my colleagues have some questions.

677
01:25:52,650 --> 01:25:55,010
I want to go ahead and make a motion to approve this. Second, if I have and I have comments, mr. Rodriguez.

678
01:25:58,370 --> 01:25:58,370
second by commissioner clay-flores commissioner clay-flores you have the floor. So I am
Supporting this

679
01:26:08,290 --> 01:26:08,290
because it's not a change. It's still the four games.

680
01:26:12,330 --> 01:26:12,330
and as you and I have talked about before bobby,
This is also about international branding with international branding.

681
01:26:21,530 --> 01:26:21,530
it makes the spurs bigger and makes more people want to come to san antonio and spend
Their money here.

682
01:26:28,270 --> 01:26:28,270
and of course, they come spend their money. As you mentioned,
The hotel taxes and all that.

683
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:36,830
and so this is about more visibility. This is about marketing. This is about more branding. So I'm happy to support it.

684
01:26:40,630 --> 01:26:40,630
and like I said earlier during the playoffs and the finals,
It was just so wonderful to see this county come together.

685
01:26:50,110 --> 01:26:50,110
and lately, there's not a lot of stuff that brings people together.

686
01:26:55,390 --> 01:26:55,390
but the spurs did that. And so for me, that's worth it.

687
01:27:01,030 --> 01:27:01,030
I'm happy to support you commissioner. Just briefly,
I think it's kind of been said at this point,

688
01:27:09,190 --> 01:27:09,190
but just reiterating the point that it was four games before.

689
01:27:14,990 --> 01:27:14,990
it's four games in the amendment. And so that fact means that what it is the amendment is
Tax

690
01:27:24,370 --> 01:27:24,370
revenue neutral? It is frost bank center employee income neutral.

691
01:27:32,530 --> 01:27:32,530
and that doesn't take into account all the additional playoff games and hours that we're
Able to be worked there.

692
01:27:38,210 --> 01:27:38,210
so I'm I'm supportive. I think providing that additional flexibility has no impact
Whatsoever on tax revenue for the county and

693
01:27:48,010 --> 01:27:50,450
appreciate the the great season you guys had. Thank you commissioner. Okay. Thank you very much.

694
01:27:53,970 --> 01:27:53,970
bobby, I want to I didn't understand your first point of clarification on the on the on
The facts as presented by mr.

695
01:28:02,330 --> 01:28:06,050
strom. Can you say that one more time? I just want to make sure I hear you correctly. Thanks, commissioner. I probably wasn't very clear. David stone was a consultant we hired
To help the public discussions on the election cycle.

696
01:28:15,090 --> 01:28:15,090
and mr. Stone did an economic impact analysis on the number of games at the arena and
Their impact locally.

697
01:28:22,260 --> 01:28:25,860
he took the last three years and the last three years. This amendment was in place. And so mrs. Strong's argument was,
Hey, you're costing the community money.

698
01:28:36,820 --> 01:28:40,700
but she's actually incorrect because that was factored in in mr. Stone's report. Well, I think we. Okay. Thank you very much for the clarity.

699
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:45,100
I think that there there is it's hard for me as a numbers guy,
To argue that there isn't an economic impact on folks who are hired and

700
01:28:54,820 --> 01:28:54,820
other ancillary economic folks. I mean, I think that does need to be looked at.

701
01:29:03,620 --> 01:29:03,620
this also started, this amendment started at a time when,
Just to be frank, we weren't we didn't have wimby we weren't as strong of a team.

702
01:29:13,740 --> 01:29:17,140
and you know, I don't know if it had anything to do. It probably did with a with a with the negotiations between austin and san antonio.

703
01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:21,480
but let's just say that it was a time that was different for the spurs since we had so
Many winning seasons.

704
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:29,840
and, you know, the team was looking for an opportunity to expand market share.

705
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:35,920
now, I think that we are now at the top of the most watched teams in the league.

706
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:44,000
I think wimbiz jersey is amongst the top and and we are,
As you just mentioned, in the 15 billion range,

707
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:53,280
aren't we like the most watched team now? It's it's been exciting this year.

708
01:29:58,800 --> 01:29:58,800
yes sir. I can't I don't know if we are, but it the numbers are pretty high.

709
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:04,520
so we're up there for sure. So it's harder. It's harder for us to make an argument that
It's about expansion of market.

710
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:13,920
I mean you can certainly expand by being in theater if you will,
Are being abroad.

711
01:30:21,210 --> 01:30:25,130
how many does every nba team do such an agreement? So that, for example, if they're playing in mexico city or paris or whatever,
That there's the flexibility.

712
01:30:31,290 --> 01:30:31,290
how does this work for other nba franchises? I can't speak to everybody has a different
Agreement with their local municipalities or how they're structured is

713
01:30:41,170 --> 01:30:41,170
set up with their counties. But nba teams this summer,
Teams will play in or this fall will play in mexico city,

714
01:30:48,690 --> 01:30:48,690
the commissioner mentioned announced we will play a home game in paris,
France and a road game in london.

715
01:30:56,330 --> 01:30:56,330
and there's probably about five other teams. So I believe it's different for all teams.

716
01:31:01,050 --> 01:31:01,050
so every team has a some sort of clause as well,
I guess to I mean it's something to look into in terms of what what those those clauses

717
01:31:11,010 --> 01:31:11,010
are so that there's flexibility. So that's something I'd like to look at.

718
01:31:17,790 --> 01:31:17,790
we'll just start with the teams that have been in international games before,
Because obviously they had to have some sort of amendment to their contracts,

719
01:31:26,590 --> 01:31:26,590
I'm assuming, with the exception of la. I think la what did is their arena not 100%
Privately

720
01:31:35,910 --> 01:31:35,910
financed. So it may not matter. Los angeles clippers is 100% privately financed.

721
01:31:41,510 --> 01:31:45,390
the los angeles lakers share a facility with a few other teams. Okay, so it's not owned by the team, operated by the team.

722
01:31:48,230 --> 01:31:48,230
in the case of the clippers, they they can they are not in a municipal or county
Arrangement.

723
01:31:55,990 --> 01:31:55,990
okay. So it's it's hard for me to ignore community impact.

724
01:32:02,830 --> 01:32:02,830
I mean, that's why I'm here is to try to make an impact on the community.

725
01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:07,350
and I think it is a fair conversation that more folks in our community are having about
What is our benefit?

726
01:32:14,910 --> 01:32:14,910
what is our what is our community return? As you know,
I have said with

727
01:32:24,890 --> 01:32:24,890
pride that I had watched the spurs literally when I was on the sea of galilee,
Or when I was at one of the national committee for us-china relations

728
01:32:34,530 --> 01:32:34,530
meetings in chengdu, china. I couldn't believe that the spurs were playing on cctv.

729
01:32:40,210 --> 01:32:40,210
it was it was mind boggling to me, to be quite honest.

730
01:32:44,930 --> 01:32:44,930
so I think we have accomplished, and I think coach popovich has been integral in your
Management team,

731
01:32:51,010 --> 01:32:51,010
have been integral in the internationalization of our team.

732
01:32:55,730 --> 01:32:55,730
it's bound not only by the players but also obviously around the world in terms of
Viewership.

733
01:33:02,170 --> 01:33:02,170
but I do think that when you're talking about such sizable public investments,
Return and partnership has to be true partnership.

734
01:33:11,570 --> 01:33:11,570
and so I, you know, I, I don't have all the data in terms of these other arrangements in
Terms of some of the impact I think it

735
01:33:21,020 --> 01:33:21,020
deserves. It deserves research and we will work to do that research.

736
01:33:28,700 --> 01:33:28,700
and so on that note, I don't have any reservation about abstaining on the vote today
Because I think that there needs to be a deeper look at

737
01:33:38,660 --> 01:33:38,660
the roi and what are the taxpayers getting in the loss of revenue.

738
01:33:44,100 --> 01:33:47,980
and so that will be my vote today. Thank you. Judge. Any further comment? Well, let me take all these comments together,
Bobby, and ask you this question.

739
01:33:57,020 --> 01:33:57,020
and it really has been asked. I just want to get clarity from me.

740
01:34:04,900 --> 01:34:04,900
in regards to commissioners calvert comments,
And I think they're on point. What is the return on investment or is that something you

741
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:11,800
have to take back and judge. Well, we'll get you those numbers.

742
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:16,080
I'm just trying to in a general way. Are we just.

743
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:21,120
it's just another handout to the san antonio spurs or is,
As I've heard, do we really have a partnership.

744
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:28,600
and if it is, what what what does the county get out of this particular motion other than
All the conversations we've had?

745
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:37,400
just tell me, what are we getting in return? Can you answer that question right now,
Judge?

746
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:42,600
I can give you some concepts that I think address what the commissioner has asked and what
You are asking.

747
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:48,520
I think the obligation of any, any partner with the public or otherwise is to use its
Brand,

748
01:34:58,480 --> 01:34:58,480
to use its employees, to use its staff to go out and do the right thing.

749
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:04,200
I think when you look at the history of the relationship between bexar county and the san
Antonio spurs,

750
01:35:10,140 --> 01:35:10,140
and I'll just draw a couple of highlights. You know I think commissioner probably a good
Point to go back and look.

751
01:35:16,220 --> 01:35:16,220
but we're talking about agreements that were developed 2829 years ago.

752
01:35:22,020 --> 01:35:22,020
the evolution of the agreements and the evolution of commerce has changed dramatically.

753
01:35:26,340 --> 01:35:26,340
but if we look at the small women minority owned business program that the county and the
Spurs partnered in 25 years ago,

754
01:35:34,340 --> 01:35:38,140
28 years ago, that was the creation of the current frost bank. That's right. Then at&t, then sbc center. Yes,
Sir.

755
01:35:41,860 --> 01:35:41,860
that dollar number a couple of years ago was $180 million to small entrepreneurs.

756
01:35:49,180 --> 01:35:49,180
that continues today. It started off at a very small component but now runs across all our
Organization for all our spending.

757
01:35:58,620 --> 01:36:02,220
and it's not required that it happens across all organizations. It was only required just at the arena when we had 70 employees when we started.

758
01:36:06,980 --> 01:36:06,980
today we have 500 employees and we procure businesses all over the place.

759
01:36:12,070 --> 01:36:12,070
I would say that is evidence of a partnership and a good deal and roi for community.

760
01:36:20,670 --> 01:36:20,670
the second thing I would point to is community impact.

761
01:36:25,670 --> 01:36:29,430
what we do on the community impact side and lots of companies do this. We're not special, but we go out every day. And whether there are financial donations to
The children

762
01:36:39,390 --> 01:36:39,390
of our community, whether it's through youth sports,
The 1000 to 2000 coaches we train every season for spurs,

763
01:36:47,630 --> 01:36:47,630
youth basketball or the things that we do at our soccer camps.

764
01:36:52,270 --> 01:36:56,070
I would say that is roi, and I would say it's incalculable. Sitting through the presentation that I just got to here earlier,
I was a member of the bexar county child welfare board probably 20 years ago,

765
01:37:03,550 --> 01:37:03,550
and probably one of the hardest volunteer positions I ever had to do.

766
01:37:08,410 --> 01:37:08,410
being on the other side of child and youth impact,
I think we create memories.

767
01:37:13,570 --> 01:37:13,570
some things that children will never forget. The spirit and community revelry that
Commissioner clay-flores talked about.

768
01:37:20,730 --> 01:37:20,730
people will not forget that we all have memories of what we did in 1999 or 2007,
Or what that championship time,

769
01:37:28,290 --> 01:37:28,290
or even last month where we were. That is roi.

770
01:37:32,890 --> 01:37:32,890
and yes, as an elected official, you have the obligation to do that.

771
01:37:37,170 --> 01:37:37,170
but also as an elected official and community partners,
We have the obligation to go out and do the next right thing.

772
01:37:44,890 --> 01:37:44,890
and that's what we've been doing for 50 years,
And we'll continue to do it for another 50 years.

773
01:37:51,130 --> 01:37:51,130
thank you. I'll call for a vote. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

774
01:37:56,050 --> 01:37:56,050
aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? One abstention.

775
01:38:01,050 --> 01:38:04,740
motion carries. I forgot to say one thing. Go,
Spurs! Go! All right. All right, let's get back to the regular agenda items.

776
01:38:12,780 --> 01:38:12,780
I believe we went through consent and there were no individual items pulled.

777
01:38:17,260 --> 01:38:17,260
correct. Kate. Oh, kate, didn't we have a correction to make or is that coming up on
Individual?

778
01:38:24,540 --> 01:38:28,340
that's on individual. Individual. Okay. Just know we. All right. We'll take agenda item number six filing for the record the following legal and
Administrative documents directing the criminal district attorney's office to take action

779
01:38:37,060 --> 01:38:37,060
if necessary. A through b seven approval of the commissioner's court minutes for tuesday,
June 23rd,

780
01:38:44,980 --> 01:38:44,980
2026. Motion by commissioner moody. Second by commissioner calvert.

781
01:38:52,980 --> 01:38:52,980
any further discussion? All those in favor signify by saying aye.

782
01:38:57,220 --> 01:39:01,020
aye. Any opposed? Any abstention. Motion carries. Communications from citizens to be heard. All right.

783
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:06,920
I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to pull up those that have signed up.

784
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:12,680
now, some have asked for individual, but that it may be the afternoon by the time we get
To y'all.

785
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:18,280
but if you wish to speak, I will give you an opportunity to speak at this time.

786
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:22,840
three minutes. First is lydia. Laos. Lydia, are you here?

787
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:30,520
lydia. Laos. I may well, if they come back in,
Please let me know.

788
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:36,840
I'll try to accommodate them as best I can. Shannon.

789
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:42,520
shannon. Shannon. Okay. Antonio. Diaz. Antonio.

790
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:50,600
diaz. And then diana. Arenas has yielded. Antonio.

791
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:55,680
diana, do you wish to yield to antonio? Where's diana?

792
01:40:01,140 --> 01:40:01,140
no. Okay. She's other shit. How are you? All right.

793
01:40:05,700 --> 01:40:05,700
antonio. Buenos dias. I'm here to speak on item

794
01:40:15,260 --> 01:40:15,260
64. And that would be on the jail. That is a considerable

795
01:40:25,060 --> 01:40:25,060
problem. Are you speaking about endangered youths and all that?

796
01:40:30,260 --> 01:40:30,260
I guess those would be future detainees or inmates at our county jails,
Should they survive.

797
01:40:37,940 --> 01:40:37,940
if they have all these emotional problems and poverty and lack of opportunity.

798
01:40:45,540 --> 01:40:45,540
there are at least double digit deaths at bexar county jail every year.

799
01:40:54,220 --> 01:40:54,220
miss rodriguez and I, with the approval of county commissioners and sheriff and

800
01:41:03,830 --> 01:41:03,830
elections office back in 2009 initiated a voter registration drive inside bexar county
Jail.

801
01:41:13,430 --> 01:41:13,430
in 2009 and 2010, which had never been done before.

802
01:41:18,470 --> 01:41:18,470
but that was to get the deputies there, the employees there and the inmates,
The detainees,

803
01:41:28,990 --> 01:41:28,990
to see themselves as human beings, to see themselves as citizens with rights,
Not as animals,

804
01:41:37,590 --> 01:41:37,590
not as caged victims, but as equal human beings,
Because most have not been convicted, most have not

805
01:41:47,510 --> 01:41:47,510
been to trial. They're simply there because they cannot make bail for one reason or
Another.

806
01:41:55,270 --> 01:41:55,270
and they are treated atrociously because to have double digits death every year,
Some within 24 hours of being

807
01:42:05,090 --> 01:42:05,090
there, it's atrocious. It needs to be addressed.

808
01:42:11,370 --> 01:42:11,370
I'm glad the sheriff was here for that. Chance for infants

809
01:42:21,930 --> 01:42:21,930
or small children to be cared for. But to me,
That is a

810
01:42:31,330 --> 01:42:31,330
prison state that we are creating in the west side.

811
01:42:36,970 --> 01:42:36,970
when it first started, it was going to be a small footprint.

812
01:42:42,050 --> 01:42:42,050
canal street was still open to the public all the way from commerce to martin.

813
01:42:47,730 --> 01:42:50,690
now you have it all blocked up. It's chained in. There is no public access to commerce street.

814
01:42:53,930 --> 01:42:53,930
it is a prison facility. It is no longer just a county jail.

815
01:43:00,140 --> 01:43:03,500
and I see that the footprint is to be increased. You have the two two deuce warehouse marked also to become some sort of jail.

816
01:43:11,660 --> 01:43:11,660
that is, again, something that really needs to be looked at in our westside becoming just
A prison state area.

817
01:43:22,020 --> 01:43:25,500
time has expired. Six minutes. Did you add the second one? Okay. Did he finish his six minutes? No. You got three more minutes.

818
01:43:30,700 --> 01:43:30,700
antonio and I also saw that we are sending our detainees or inmates,
Whichever you want to call to

819
01:43:40,540 --> 01:43:40,540
kerr county and burnet county. So more cost to our county so they can be housed there.

820
01:43:50,220 --> 01:43:50,220
somehow it seems that too many people are being arrested,
Whether it is because of homelessness houselessness mental

821
01:43:59,920 --> 01:43:59,920
issues. Since those clinics and state funding is cut for mental issues.

822
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:09,360
it seems jail is the only housing for an overpopulated county,
Supposed to be over 2 million now

823
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:19,920
and continuing to grow. And I see that I brought this up before continuing to just allow
Development to go wild

824
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:29,840
and uncontrolled growth in our county, in our city is not the way to go.

825
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:36,680
it does not give us more of a higher income from our taxation.

826
01:44:42,440 --> 01:44:42,440
it doesn't. We cannot keep up with it. It's just a dog chasing its tail.

827
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:47,800
that's just my comment on that. But death at the county jail,
And who knows how they're going to be treated at bernard

828
01:44:57,660 --> 01:44:57,660
county. At kerr county, with only paying $85 per per bed there.

829
01:45:03,580 --> 01:45:03,580
and how are the people from here going to be able to visit their relatives once moved over
There?

830
01:45:09,700 --> 01:45:09,700
should they be actual residents of bexar county?

831
01:45:13,820 --> 01:45:13,820
all these need to be taken into consideration for all these issues and to those being
Considered to be another annexation for the jail.

832
01:45:22,860 --> 01:45:22,860
it needs to be looked at. Too many deaths is very it's it's an eye opening situation.

833
01:45:29,940 --> 01:45:29,940
like I said, in 2009, 2010, there were 16 years ago we went because we had double digit
Deaths.

834
01:45:36,420 --> 01:45:36,420
then we're trying to get our county deputy sheriffs to look at the detainees,
At the arrested people there as human beings,

835
01:45:45,100 --> 01:45:45,100
and they themselves to have some inkling that they still have rights even though they're
Behind bars.

836
01:45:54,590 --> 01:45:54,590
and this double court system that is in place where someone that is detained also needs to
Be looked at.

837
01:46:03,950 --> 01:46:03,950
that is, to me, unconstitutional. But it's occurring here in bexar county.

838
01:46:08,590 --> 01:46:11,950
it's occurring here in texas. And I keep saying it. Texas is one of the most racist states ever constructed,
Especially the republic of texas,

839
01:46:17,870 --> 01:46:17,870
which much of it governance is still enforced upon us.

840
01:46:24,870 --> 01:46:24,870
thank you, sir. I think, lydia, did you get back lydia la force.

841
01:46:32,270 --> 01:46:32,270
why don't you come back? I'm giving you the opportunity to speak at this time,
Even though it's a agenda item.

842
01:46:37,670 --> 01:46:41,390
if you wish to speak at this time or otherwise,
You're going to have to continue to wait. So if you wish. Good morning, judge and county commissioners.

843
01:46:51,130 --> 01:46:51,130
thank you for letting me speak. My name is lee delos,
Founder of voices behind the cell and co-founder of san antonio.

844
01:46:57,490 --> 01:46:57,490
grieving mothers fight for justice. As a mother of julian,
Who was critically injured on july 27th,

845
01:47:03,570 --> 01:47:03,570
2020 and passed away on july 30th, 2020 because of organ donation,
I stand.

846
01:47:10,770 --> 01:47:10,770
I have dedicated my life to advocating for families affected by in-custody deaths.

847
01:47:15,330 --> 01:47:15,330
I stand here today to ask for greater transparency,
Accountability, meaningful, meaningful reforms and dignity for every person housed in

848
01:47:24,090 --> 01:47:27,890
bexar county jail. This. This discussion is far more. It's about far more than jail, overcrowding and facilities.

849
01:47:31,290 --> 01:47:31,290
it is about protecting human life. With 130 in-custody deaths during sheriff's javier
Salazar tenure.

850
01:47:38,770 --> 01:47:38,770
community deserves answers. Every person who enters the jail is in the custody and care of
The government.

851
01:47:47,130 --> 01:47:50,340
the constitutional rights do not end at the jail door. Today, I respectfully ask this court to make jail safety and transparency a priority by
Supporting the follow following reforms.

852
01:48:01,180 --> 01:48:01,180
adopting mandatory family notification policy requiring immediate notification when a
Person suffers a medical emergency,

853
01:48:09,340 --> 01:48:09,340
is hospitalized or dies while in custody. Preserve all surveillance video,
Body camera footage,

854
01:48:15,220 --> 01:48:15,220
radio communications, medical records, incident reports following any critical incident
Release public quarterly reports on in-custody deaths,

855
01:48:24,300 --> 01:48:24,300
serious medical emergencies, suicides, suicide attempts,
Staffing levels and corrective actions.

856
01:48:31,060 --> 01:48:31,060
establish a family liaison to communicate with families throughout investigation,
Process and short term reforms.

857
01:48:39,980 --> 01:48:39,980
increase medical and mental health staffing to provide 24 hour coverage and improve
Officer training and emergency medical response,

858
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:47,840
overdose recognition, suicide prevention, de-escalation and mental health crisis.

859
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:53,280
strengthen. Strengthen emergency response policies requiring ems activation whenever a
Detainee shows signs of medical

860
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:02,840
distress, conduct independent audits of detention operations,
Medical services, and compliance with state standards.

861
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:12,520
long term reforms require independent investigations of every in-custody death and
Critical incidents.

862
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:19,600
improve transparency through annual public hearings on jail operations,
Safety, staffing and compliance.

863
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:27,200
expand mental health treatment diversion programs and substance use services to reduce
Unnecessary incarceration and overcrowding.

864
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:37,360
modernize jail facilities while ensuring that any expansion prioritizes safety.

865
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:43,320
medical care, suicide prevention and humane conditions.

866
01:49:47,380 --> 01:49:47,380
as a military city, usa, we must not forget our veterans in custody and ensure they
Receive the care,

867
01:49:55,060 --> 01:49:55,060
treatment and dignity that they deserve. These are not expired and I'm sorry,
These are not political issues.

868
01:50:02,860 --> 01:50:02,860
these are human issues. Every number represents a son,
Daughter, mother, father, a brother,

869
01:50:08,260 --> 01:50:11,620
sister, or a friend. Thank you. Have a good day. All right. Let me go back and see if rebecca flores.

870
01:50:15,460 --> 01:50:15,460
did you return? Rebecca. All right. Pass. Shannon locke,
Did you return?

871
01:50:23,940 --> 01:50:23,940
shannon. Locke. Shannon. Locke. All right. I called your name.

872
01:50:29,580 --> 01:50:29,580
all right. Mark. Vojvodich and mark, you have I've.

873
01:50:36,460 --> 01:50:36,460
note 123456. I'll just call their names out. But I think they're all yielding time to you.

874
01:50:46,190 --> 01:50:46,190
so joe hernandez, joel hernandez, ashley martinez,
Dougan yi, lloyd brown,

875
01:50:56,230 --> 01:50:56,230
tyler faz, kent novak, and paul guma, are they yielding all the time to you?

876
01:51:05,430 --> 01:51:09,430
constable. They are, sir. All right, you have the floor. Dismiss the officers so they can get back to work. Sir,
Please.

877
01:51:13,150 --> 01:51:13,150
you're dismissed.

878
01:51:31,590 --> 01:51:31,590
good morning, judge commissioners. Basically just coming back to respond to some questions
That came up on a previous discussion.

879
01:51:37,150 --> 01:51:37,150
there's no actions today. Trying to fill in some blanks of a request that we made on the
Motorcycles in the previous commissioners court meeting.

880
01:51:47,410 --> 01:51:47,410
first of all, we had a misstatement on my part,
On the cost, and I wanted to clarify that although the costs of vehicles,

881
01:51:54,130 --> 01:51:54,130
the tahoe is still $84,410, that's fully outfitted.

882
01:51:58,650 --> 01:51:58,650
nothing adapted to it. Motorcycles are $51,683.

883
01:52:04,650 --> 01:52:04,650
that's fully outfitted and equipped. Of course,
The maintenance and operations costs were a factor,

884
01:52:10,370 --> 01:52:10,370
and that was a question that several people had presented. And we have a 60 month factory
Warranty on the motorcycles.

885
01:52:17,490 --> 01:52:17,490
the operations costs are lower than tahoe. So that's just not my opinion.

886
01:52:22,330 --> 01:52:22,330
if you look at the attachment a, this is basically a chart that shows the cost of the
Vehicles.

887
01:52:32,530 --> 01:52:32,530
and behind that are the actual cost analysis by department provided by fleet maintenance
For bmw motorcycle units,

888
01:52:40,580 --> 01:52:40,580
as well as for tahoes. We provided that so that we would actually have hard data to know
That we're talking about the same thing and that we are looking at a savings.

889
01:52:50,020 --> 01:52:50,020
the motorcycles are 38% costs, initial costs,
And they're fully outfitted with the costs that we stated and 15% lower in the cost per

890
01:52:58,940 --> 01:52:58,940
mile for operations. These numbers are derived again off of fleet maintenance cost
Analysis.

891
01:53:09,500 --> 01:53:09,500
we there were some concerns that we had that costs were going to run higher than they
Needed to be.

892
01:53:15,780 --> 01:53:15,780
upfitted. And the costs that we have quoted includes those upfitted motorcycles,
Plus an additional amount of money from our budget to cover some safety supplies that are

893
01:53:24,740 --> 01:53:24,740
necessary. The costs and the hearing that we had in the last court session was actually
Pretty accurate from by mrs,

894
01:53:32,500 --> 01:53:32,500
you did a good job on providing the accurate costs right off the top of your head,
But we did provide the fleet maintenance costs so that you'd be able to see them.

895
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:42,040
precinct three. Keep in mind, when we were talking about when we make operational
Decisions in precinct three,

896
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:47,520
it's because we see it from the street level and we see what happens on a daily basis and
The changes in precinct three,

897
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:52,920
and we try to respond to those. We are mindful of the fact that the principles that we
Abide by include the bexar county statement of financial policies,

898
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:01,200
section 41 a to d, which in summary, establishes the fees and costs that are related to
The cost of providing services,

899
01:54:08,480 --> 01:54:08,480
pursuing changes by legislative means, and collecting all fines and fees and revenue due
To bexar county.

900
01:54:14,480 --> 01:54:14,480
these are not mandated to by precinct three. They are bexar county policies and we
Institute them.

901
01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:21,160
we're not doing anything special. The money that we're talking about currently right now
Is existing in the precinct three budget.

902
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:29,240
one of the discussions was an assessment for the true cost. And I think those fleet
Figures show the true cost of these motorcycles on a lifetime costs,

903
01:54:37,340 --> 01:54:40,060
including lower maintenance and operations costs. And plus, the mentioning part of the discussion was from mr.

904
01:54:45,820 --> 01:54:45,820
robinson on liability and policies related to motorcycles in bexar county.

905
01:54:53,180 --> 01:54:53,180
to a large degree, I think he was correct, as he put it back in one of his last comments,
That that is a decision up to each constable to decide,

906
01:54:59,780 --> 01:55:03,140
making an operational decision of how to employ resources. The liability issue is perfectly aligned with the county,
But it's not a new thing.

907
01:55:09,020 --> 01:55:09,020
we have motorcycles here. The policy is the sheriff's office has for their motors.

908
01:55:14,780 --> 01:55:14,780
they've been operating for 20 years. So if there's a policy that needed to be made,
I think it would have been done probably 20 years ago.

909
01:55:21,820 --> 01:55:21,820
and there's no reason to have a policy to bind constables to on their possible use of
Motorcycles when we are the only precinct that have used them in the past and are asking

910
01:55:31,260 --> 01:55:31,260
to use them now to require us to be in agreement in each constable's office.

911
01:55:37,270 --> 01:55:37,270
kind of flies in the face of each elected official and the authority that they have to
Operate their, their,

912
01:55:41,790 --> 01:55:41,790
their precinct. I understood also that we had concerns that we wanted to look at
Addressing this during the regular budget.

913
01:55:49,710 --> 01:55:49,710
this is not a budget. This is not next budget discussion today.

914
01:55:54,230 --> 01:55:54,230
this is on the operations of the funds that we have in our budget now.

915
01:55:59,710 --> 01:55:59,710
there was a comment that was required that we had that they want to know that why we
Haven't coordinated with other constables and they haven't seen those things.

916
01:56:07,630 --> 01:56:07,630
it's not a factor in any way what other constables have for needs and their needs have no
Effect on us.

917
01:56:14,510 --> 01:56:14,510
each of us provides a separate budget. And we have those specific needs that we need to
Have.

918
01:56:20,870 --> 01:56:20,870
there's no reason to have a consensus between constables on anything.

919
01:56:25,310 --> 01:56:25,310
although I do have two letters up here that were listed in your section b from constable's
In precinct two and precinct four,

920
01:56:32,890 --> 01:56:36,890
supporting the use by constables in precinct three of motorcycles. They have different needs. We have different needs. We're just trying to get to that point
Where we're performing the best that we can with the resources we have,

921
01:56:44,490 --> 01:56:44,490
and offsetting costs to taxpayers and putting those costs back on the people who have
Violated the law.

922
01:56:49,810 --> 01:56:49,810
and the legislature has provided the solution to that,
Which is fines.

923
01:56:55,130 --> 01:56:55,130
there was some discussion that brought up what required to appear in their office,
Like in precinct three.

924
01:57:01,090 --> 01:57:01,090
there was a discussion, an out of cycle recently,
That they needed an investigator for their precinct that was out of cycle request.

925
01:57:09,210 --> 01:57:09,210
that was perfectly acceptable. But that's a need that I would not speak to,
To oppose because it's her business.

926
01:57:16,130 --> 01:57:16,130
precinct two's business. By the way, she needs more staff than what she's got now.

927
01:57:20,490 --> 01:57:20,490
she has one of the busiest precincts. Commissioner rodriguez and I hope that's addressed
Coming up in the future. There's also commissions that they're in the present budget.

928
01:57:28,690 --> 01:57:32,620
I don't want to tie the present budget to future requests. Those future requests will all be debated in due time.

929
01:57:35,980 --> 01:57:35,980
and we all, all precincts, all county departments,
Are going to have requests that are going to have an increase or some change.

930
01:57:41,820 --> 01:57:41,820
so I don't think it's really applicable to the discussions coming up in the future.

931
01:57:48,860 --> 01:57:48,860
also, one of the commissioners had mentioned that they were asking to develop that policy
And that she had had comments.

932
01:57:56,740 --> 01:57:56,740
rebeca clay-flores was the one who mentioned that she had been talking to her
Commissioner, her constable,

933
01:58:01,900 --> 01:58:01,900
and his her chief of staff, his chief of staff,
Regarding that they haven't had any discussions on the need for motorcycles or on my

934
01:58:10,020 --> 01:58:10,020
issue. I couldn't tell which one she was talking about,
Whether they were talking about their issue or ours.

935
01:58:14,860 --> 01:58:14,860
but again, precinct one. Precinct. Two, precinct four.

936
01:58:19,100 --> 01:58:19,100
they're all independent. They have no role in what I do in precinct three.

937
01:58:23,620 --> 01:58:23,620
that's between me and my lawful use of the expenditure of funds,
Personnel and resources.

938
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:34,560
they haven't requested motor units. Why would they have to have a policy that addresses
That? It's immaterial for precinct three that I didn't discuss this with constable tejeda or any
Other officials outside of precinct three.

939
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:44,120
presenting a budget item to commissioners court. The constables are each. The subject matter experts of their.

940
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:49,800
their precinct and. They should be consulted. And they should. We should be getting back to that period where we have some trust between
County commissioners court and the other elected officials that are taking care of the

941
01:58:58,160 --> 01:58:58,160
duties and the officers that they are elected to. We don't involve ourselves in other
Precincts.

942
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:04,360
the the the liability issue for vehicles, the operators and risk management functions are
Identical to those motorcycles that bexar county sheriff's office has and has had for 20

943
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:13,040
years. So I don't really see that a policy is necessary in that area.

944
01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:18,280
when we're talking about this disproportionate effect on a population or certain people.

945
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:28,340
that's a valid concern. And we looked into that as well. You have a copy. Number one, we do a little bit different.

946
01:59:31,460 --> 01:59:31,460
if you look at this little flier, this is what we hand out when we do every traffic
Citation. This is handed back to them with a copy of the citation in their driver's

947
01:59:38,060 --> 01:59:38,060
license. And it gives them a lot of information that they may not have already had about
How they can handle the citation,

948
01:59:43,300 --> 01:59:43,300
how they can appear in court, what options they have besides paying.

949
01:59:48,500 --> 01:59:48,500
we have it in english and spanish, and we have a fine schedule on the back.

950
01:59:52,660 --> 01:59:52,660
we also go back to the fact that of this money that is collected by bexar county in the
Past three years in this current year to date,

951
02:00:02,660 --> 02:00:05,700
we've collected $1.6 million in fines this year. Last year was 20 million, 20.5 million. 17 million in the year prior and 15.2 million
Prior to that,

952
02:00:11,860 --> 02:00:11,860
about $54 million in that time period for the current court.

953
02:00:16,140 --> 02:00:16,140
54 million. 19 million of. That is the part that bexar county receives.

954
02:00:20,820 --> 02:00:20,820
we also have if that is an issue, we've also watched what the protections are for these
Citizens who can't afford these costs.

955
02:00:30,230 --> 02:00:30,230
we don't make an excuse for at least I hope we're not making an excuse to commit criminal
Acts because of poverty or indigency.

956
02:00:38,470 --> 02:00:41,430
we have other mechanisms that can be applied there. In the class c court that we have in jp court,
There's many protections for people who are unable to pay for whatever reason.

957
02:00:48,510 --> 02:00:48,510
they can have a payment plan. They can participate in community service if they are unable
To do physical community service or that kind of area.

958
02:00:55,750 --> 02:00:55,750
they can provide services and there's no jail time for these class c misdemeanors.

959
02:01:00,110 --> 02:01:03,870
so we're not going to be populating the jail and we have alternatives to it. It's one of the very basic tenets of society is that people abide by the lowest level of,
Of behavior in a society are laws.

960
02:01:14,110 --> 02:01:14,110
they morals can be higher. Other things can be normal,
But laws are necessary for the society to exist.

961
02:01:18,790 --> 02:01:18,790
and it's an implied understanding with everybody participates,
Whether they're a billionaire or somebody who's down in the poverty level,

962
02:01:25,490 --> 02:01:28,210
which we have 14.5% of poverty in bexar county. I understand that, but we have protections in place for them in the court systems.

963
02:01:33,970 --> 02:01:33,970
bexar county doesn't set the fines that's set by the state legislature,
And it's at the discretion of each of the each of the judges and courts.

964
02:01:44,450 --> 02:01:44,450
basically, the same people that may be disproportionately affected are also within that
Population that are going to participate in 47,000 crashes per year in bexar county,

965
02:01:53,570 --> 02:01:53,570
190 plus fatalities and tens of thousands of serious bodily injury.

966
02:01:57,810 --> 02:01:57,810
so we're protecting everybody by enforcing these laws and trying to reduce those
Accidents.

967
02:02:02,690 --> 02:02:06,490
those fines and fees are not our choice. They're from the legislature. The same rules apply to a violator. But remember,
They have these different plans and protections.

968
02:02:10,770 --> 02:02:10,770
the judges are looking out. They're required by law to do an indigency viewpoint and check
And see if they can afford or cannot afford to pay the fines and all that

969
02:02:20,650 --> 02:02:20,650
goes before anything else. They're not committed to jail.

970
02:02:25,350 --> 02:02:25,350
in short, they have operating short guards, safeguards for the executive and law
Enforcement and judicial sides of these processes and how they work.

971
02:02:32,030 --> 02:02:32,030
one example within the court system is using data from fy 25 for fines and court costs.

972
02:02:36,230 --> 02:02:36,230
jp one wave $394,000 for indigent. Jp two waived $9,289.

973
02:02:43,390 --> 02:02:43,390
jp three waived 3589 jp four wave $26,000. And I don't want to tie the court up,
But I do

974
02:02:53,310 --> 02:02:53,310
want to kind of go through a quick summary. When we have the item e on the back side,
We've gone through that before.

975
02:03:00,350 --> 02:03:00,350
when we are allowed to manage our precinct over a period of 17 years or time,
We make a better decision than staff does because we have tens of thousands of hours

976
02:03:10,270 --> 02:03:10,270
in precinct three. So that's something to be considered,
Including what we have for the losses.

977
02:03:16,910 --> 02:03:16,910
we also have on this. We had requested to use unspent salary funds,
Which is not an unusual request in bexar county.

978
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:24,440
the item d was how we calculated that that figure.

979
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:28,600
and it comes out literally for. We have that for several years all the way through.

980
02:03:33,160 --> 02:03:33,160
the current year is $186,658, which is more than enough to cover the request that will be
Coming.

981
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:38,880
we've had up to 300,000 that we've had to turn over in the past years,
And $253,000 in the year prior to that.

982
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:51,200
this proposal that we are going to be proposing later on is a summary. It still makes sense financially for the county in offsetting the costs of law enforcement
To those who violate the law,

983
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:56,520
rather than putting the burden on taxpayers. There are safeguards to those who may be
Financially or disparately affected,

984
02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:02,480
and I hope I provided those facts. We have two judges on the court,
Plus other court members hear legal advice all the time for mr.

985
02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:10,320
robertson. So I think that they're aware of these safeguards that are in presently
Alternative in our budget,

986
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:15,640
analysts had suggested was to use unexpended fleet acquisition funds,
And also an alternative that hasn't been explored.

987
02:04:22,420 --> 02:04:22,420
that will be is that we can use transportation code 542402 funds,
Which authorizes the use of traffic fine revenue to fund capital costs,

988
02:04:30,380 --> 02:04:30,380
personnel or maintenance, or to defray the cost of an expense of county traffic officers
Or to enforce laws and regulation use of highways.

989
02:04:46,580 --> 02:04:46,580
let's see.

990
02:04:56,820 --> 02:04:56,820
okay. I think it's back to work now. My apologies for hitting that.

991
02:05:00,980 --> 02:05:04,260
basically we're looking to only ask for funds in this. Next ask is for funds that are already allocated to my office in this budget.

992
02:05:08,660 --> 02:05:08,660
but there are alternatives I just mentioned. Motorcycles are not new to precinct three or
Bexar county.

993
02:05:13,820 --> 02:05:13,820
if you wanted a policy, the timing does seem a little bit off when it's proposed only for
Precinct three or at the time we request motorcycles.

994
02:05:21,190 --> 02:05:21,190
the equipment, training and all that exceeds the current training that are provided to
Motor officers in bexar county.

995
02:05:26,790 --> 02:05:26,790
the cost factors favor motorcycles by a wide margin.

996
02:05:31,390 --> 02:05:31,390
the incidental revenue, as authorized by the legislature,
Offsets budget shortfalls, and those savings can be fund to other precincts or other

997
02:05:37,510 --> 02:05:41,230
critical services that face cuts or being abolished. We're trying to be good citizens, corporate citizens in bexar county,
In precinct three, by making sure we cover that.

998
02:05:47,310 --> 02:05:47,310
this is also a further step in building trust between the court and constables and
Permitting them the full operational control of their offices,

999
02:05:53,910 --> 02:05:57,270
which is what the design was by the texas constitution. We all have a lane to be in. It's a tough. You have a.

1000
02:06:00,270 --> 02:06:00,270
you have to manage 5400 officers or employees in multiple departments from everything from
Building maintenance,

1001
02:06:08,390 --> 02:06:08,390
fleet maintenance, roads and bridges. We would ask you to rely on the people that have
That knowledge firsthand on the lowest levels,

1002
02:06:15,970 --> 02:06:15,970
which we'll be presenting later on in august,
Preferably on a new a, c, f, and I hope this information provided some fill in and some of

1003
02:06:25,290 --> 02:06:25,290
the questions that came up. And if there's any other questions at a future date,
Let me know and I'll be happy to take care of the research and present it to you.

1004
02:06:35,650 --> 02:06:38,690
thank you. Okay. Point of personal privilege only. Commissioner, please. Well, appreciate you. You coming?

1005
02:06:42,290 --> 02:06:42,290
and I appreciate this. Especially exhibit a laying out the answers,
I think, effectively on the costs associated with the motorcycles,

1006
02:06:51,370 --> 02:06:51,370
35 to 40% less for that motorcycle versus the tahoe.

1007
02:06:55,610 --> 02:06:55,610
I support you bringing this back for a fair up or down vote by this court.

1008
02:07:00,450 --> 02:07:00,450
I think you've effectively answered the questions that the court previously voiced,
So thank you.

1009
02:07:07,450 --> 02:07:07,450
all right. That concludes citizen be heard. Was there any citizens that signed up that I
Did not call your name.

1010
02:07:13,470 --> 02:07:13,470
hearing none. Let's move on. We'll go to individual items.

1011
02:07:17,910 --> 02:07:17,910
court. Let me alert you. I intend to call those individuals that are not part of
Executive.

1012
02:07:26,550 --> 02:07:26,550
unless y'all indicate that you wish to hold back on any of them.

1013
02:07:31,430 --> 02:07:31,430
but and then we will. If we finish those, we will then close for executive.

1014
02:07:41,710 --> 02:07:41,710
I'm proposing we eat lunch during executive as we did last time,
And that we continue executive session in the in the

1015
02:07:51,350 --> 02:07:51,350
courtroom with our lunch and subject to counsel and those people that are asked to be part
Of executive.

1016
02:07:59,430 --> 02:08:02,710
and then we should be able to come out and close the meeting. If there's no objections, that's what I intend to do.

1017
02:08:05,670 --> 02:08:05,670
and so I'm alerting the public that we will take up those items that are not part of
Executive.

1018
02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:12,320
there are a lot of items that are going to be discussed and executive could take an
Extended period of time with those discussions.

1019
02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:21,440
so in my case, I need help. I understand 58 is not part.

1020
02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:27,960
so are we prepared to take 58 up staff? Judge 57 is not part of executive as well.

1021
02:08:37,320 --> 02:08:37,320
57 yeah, it's not on there. So I think it starts with 57 okay.

1022
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:46,760
so is that is that correct statement. All right. Let's take up 57 then. I thought it was executive but I'll pull it back.

1023
02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:51,920
it's discussion appropriate action regarding approval of following actions relating to
Bexar county out of county jail services contracts, a authorizing bexar county judge to

1024
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:00,880
execute a proposed first amendment to the interlocal cooperation agreement between bexar
County and kerr county for the purpose of reviving the expired agreement,

1025
02:09:10,220 --> 02:09:10,220
extending its term through june 24th, 2026, and direction to staff to place executed
Agreement on the next available commissioners court agenda following

1026
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:20,100
execution for ratification and record filing purposes,
And to be authorizing bexar county judge to execute

1027
02:09:29,780 --> 02:09:29,780
execute a proposed first amendment to the interlocal interlocal cooperation agreement
Between bexar county and burnet county for the purposes of reviving the expired agreement,

1028
02:09:39,580 --> 02:09:39,580
extending its term through june 24th, 2026, and direction to staff to place the executed
Agreement on the next available commissioners court agenda following

1029
02:09:49,380 --> 02:09:49,380
execution for ratification and record following filing purposes,
And c authorizing the county auditor to pay past due

1030
02:09:59,020 --> 02:09:59,020
fy 26 invoices. And I believe we have corrected amounts that I'll ask kate to put on
Record once the first amendment to the interlocal

1031
02:10:08,830 --> 02:10:08,830
cooperation agreements is approved by each kerr county and burnett county.

1032
02:10:14,470 --> 02:10:14,470
kate, what are the corrected amounts to the respective counties?

1033
02:10:18,750 --> 02:10:18,750
yes, judge, we are making a correction to the dollar amounts for 57.

1034
02:10:22,830 --> 02:10:22,830
see, the dollar amount for kerr county should reflect 383,165,
And the dollar amount for burnett should

1035
02:10:32,670 --> 02:10:32,670
reflect 1,183,224 and $0.17. Did everybody get those

1036
02:10:42,470 --> 02:10:42,470
amounts or do we need to repeat them? All right.

1037
02:10:49,030 --> 02:10:49,030
sheriff. Sure. Well, you all will be pleased to know that we're down to zero population in
Both of those facilities.

1038
02:10:56,590 --> 02:10:59,350
but we do. If y'all have any questions regarding the contracts. I brought chief jansen up here. He's our resident expert on that topic,
But we're just basically paying past due invoices that are owing.

1039
02:11:08,090 --> 02:11:10,610
and those counties are expecting payment. Correct,
Sir. Yes, sir. Okay. And to and to clarify it, it was at $65 a bed,
Correct?

1040
02:11:18,290 --> 02:11:18,290
yes. Okay. I know we met we met earlier to talk about all the questions I had.

1041
02:11:23,610 --> 02:11:23,610
so thank you for taking time for that. And I'm glad to know that there are zero inmates
Outside of bexar county right now.

1042
02:11:31,730 --> 02:11:35,370
so I know as a summer goes, there's different things that happen. There's some recon, some construction that we're we're doing some electrical work.

1043
02:11:40,490 --> 02:11:40,490
but I'm glad that this has finally happened. So hopefully we can keep it as low as
Possible.

1044
02:11:44,690 --> 02:11:44,690
thank you. All right. Is there a motion? All right,
Commissioner moody.

1045
02:11:53,450 --> 02:11:53,450
so clearly I assume that based on the the actual build amounts underneath.

1046
02:12:00,730 --> 02:12:00,730
see that? That's just from the unused capacity that we have had in those two counties
Based on what the contracted

1047
02:12:10,190 --> 02:12:10,190
beds versus what was actually utilized. Is that correct?

1048
02:12:15,230 --> 02:12:15,230
so I'm sorry one more time, commissioner. Well,
Because we we had budgeted for was it 4 or 4.5.

1049
02:12:23,110 --> 02:12:26,230
okay. And we're obviously coming in underneath that right now. So those were just beds that were contracted but not utilized.

1050
02:12:31,430 --> 02:12:31,430
we didn't put an inmate in that bed to get the $85 invoice.

1051
02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:38,470
well, I mean, up to this beginning of june we had inmates there.

1052
02:12:42,790 --> 02:12:42,790
but yeah, all the inmates are now gone. And so with this paid invoice will be paid up all
The way.

1053
02:12:48,390 --> 02:12:48,390
and maybe this is a county staff. So the, the combination of the total cost thus far
Versus what we had budgeted

1054
02:12:58,070 --> 02:12:58,070
for, how do those compare? So. I believe we budgeted 4.5 million.

1055
02:13:06,320 --> 02:13:09,640
and I think at the end of this it will be 3.8 million. Okay. Just off the top of my head somewhere,
Those were the ballpark numbers that I was aware of too.

1056
02:13:15,280 --> 02:13:15,280
and so obviously that's, that's a good thing. We haven't utilized as many bed nights as we
Had expected to.

1057
02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:23,920
and I think after our previous conversation that we asked for and drove here,
We have kind of brought those numbers down

1058
02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:34,320
with those surrounding counties and try to minimize the utilization of those outside bexar
County beds,

1059
02:13:41,200 --> 02:13:41,200
which is a win for bexar county. And I appreciate the efforts on that front because it's
Saving taxpayer dollars.

1060
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:46,680
it's helping with our budget going forward. I do think though,
That, that and this will relate to a couple other agenda

1061
02:13:56,520 --> 02:13:56,520
items that are forthcoming with 63 and 64. But,
You know, we are still obviously spending tax dollars.

1062
02:14:06,100 --> 02:14:06,100
I don't think anybody believes that. We're not going to have to utilize these contracts
Going forward,

1063
02:14:11,380 --> 02:14:15,020
because we don't have the capacity and space today. So just highlighting again that, you know, 3.8 is better than 4.5 and a lot better than $7
Million

1064
02:14:25,060 --> 02:14:25,060
spent in this regard, but it's still $3.8 million that come from taxpayers.

1065
02:14:31,140 --> 02:14:31,140
so over the mid to long term, the problem still exists.

1066
02:14:36,100 --> 02:14:36,100
we're doing a good job in the short term, I think of trying to,
To, to manage this and minimize it.

1067
02:14:41,700 --> 02:14:45,540
but we can't look the other way over the mid to long term. I know we had the head of the jail commission,
Previous head of the jail commission for the state of texas here.

1068
02:14:51,460 --> 02:14:51,460
and talking about the growth in bexar county and what the expectations are in 2040.

1069
02:14:57,140 --> 02:14:57,140
and depending on what you assume the incarceration rate is,
That'll be 5500 to 6000 inmates.

1070
02:15:05,310 --> 02:15:05,310
and clearly, we'd need hundreds, if not up to a thousand additional beds in order to to
Accomplish that task.

1071
02:15:14,230 --> 02:15:14,230
when when our county has grown that much. So I hope as we we cover these other items,
We can continue to dive into these these issues that are pressing and are

1072
02:15:24,030 --> 02:15:24,030
clearly county responsibility. But that's all I have on this side.

1073
02:15:29,670 --> 02:15:29,670
any further comment questions? Is there a motion?

1074
02:15:33,790 --> 02:15:37,710
and I think we have to take it. Larry. Three three motions. So yes, judge, I just want to say on the corrected amounts,
Can you add up to the amount the corrected amounts because there's they were just

1075
02:15:45,670 --> 02:15:48,510
submitted to the auditor's office for review. So we want to say up to the amounts the corrected amounts if we can add that to the
Motion.

1076
02:15:53,750 --> 02:15:53,750
any objections on the amendment of 57 c for the correct amounts and include the language
Up to those set amounts.

1077
02:16:03,490 --> 02:16:06,170
can cate read those amounts again? All right. Let's let's get 57 c locked down. Let us put the specific amounts and the specific
Language as recommended by counsel.

1078
02:16:15,050 --> 02:16:15,050
yes, judge. So 57 c should reflect authorizing the county auditor to pay past due fy 26
Invoices up to the amount of

1079
02:16:24,170 --> 02:16:24,170
383,165 for kerr county, and up to the amount of

1080
02:16:30,650 --> 02:16:30,650
01,183,224 and $0.17 for burnet county. That's the motion.

1081
02:16:39,730 --> 02:16:39,730
so who moved? I make that motion by commissioner rodriguez,
Second by commissioner moody.

1082
02:16:47,210 --> 02:16:47,210
any further discussion? So what we're going to take up,
What are we going to take up.

1083
02:16:51,370 --> 02:16:53,970
what was the motion. Well, we kind of went backwards. Okay. We did 57 c. Okay. Let's do. We're doing 57. C is it clear on the record,
Mr.

1084
02:16:59,550 --> 02:16:59,550
robertson? We're taking up 57. C with the corrected amount and the corrected language as
Moved by commissioner rodriguez,

1085
02:17:07,270 --> 02:17:09,870
second by commissioner moody. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

1086
02:17:12,390 --> 02:17:12,390
aye. Any opposed? Any abstention? Motion carries.

1087
02:17:16,670 --> 02:17:16,670
can I have a second motion for 57 b and we'll go backwards.

1088
02:17:21,910 --> 02:17:21,910
so moved. Motion by commissioner rodriguez, second by commissioner moody.

1089
02:17:26,470 --> 02:17:26,470
any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

1090
02:17:31,030 --> 02:17:34,710
aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. We will now take up 57 a. Is there a motion? So moved.

1091
02:17:38,030 --> 02:17:41,070
motion by commissioner rodriguez, second by commissioner moody. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

1092
02:17:44,990 --> 02:17:48,150
aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries. Thank you all. And so, mr. Leo carrera, do you have what you need to take care of our
Bills with our neighboring counties.

1093
02:17:57,200 --> 02:17:57,200
and would you also express our appreciation for their cooperation?

1094
02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:02,600
and thomas, obviously will be coming back on any new contracts that will be considered.

1095
02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:09,760
is that correct? All right. Tell me. So. 58 kate,
What are we going to do on presentation discussion.

1096
02:18:17,720 --> 02:18:21,280
appropriate action regarding approval of amendment to administrative policy. 8.1 procurement of goods, commodities, equipment,
Information technology, professional personal services,

1097
02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:27,200
maintenance and construction. Are we moving forward on that?

1098
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:35,040
thomas judge, I think we'd like to defer this item.

1099
02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:43,720
we need to work a few administrative items on the background. So we'll continue to work with the purchasing agent. So are we tabling or we're just
Pulling it.

1100
02:18:48,080 --> 02:18:48,080
oh we'll table it recommending tabling motion by commissioner calvert,
Second by commissioner calvert to table any further discussion.

1101
02:18:57,420 --> 02:18:57,420
all right. We got everybody on 58, which is procurement of goods,
Communication equipment,

1102
02:19:03,900 --> 02:19:03,900
information technology, professional and personal services,
Maintenance and construction.

1103
02:19:09,100 --> 02:19:11,340
but it was going to be presented by mr. Galloway. So I'm sorry for table 59. No, I just we're bringing 59 is not being brought up.

1104
02:19:19,780 --> 02:19:19,780
it's 58 tabling 58. Yeah. Right. So who did I have a motion from?

1105
02:19:25,340 --> 02:19:27,980
that was commissioner. Calvert. And who second. And second by commissioner rodriguez. Any further discussion?

1106
02:19:30,860 --> 02:19:30,860
hearing none. All those in favor of the motion to table item 58 signify by saying aye.

1107
02:19:36,260 --> 02:19:36,260
aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries the table.

1108
02:19:42,220 --> 02:19:42,220
and can I get a sense or feedback, thomas or mr.

1109
02:19:46,260 --> 02:19:49,140
galloway, will this be on the next agenda or. We just don't know at this time. Judge, I believe we can have this ready by the next
Court.

1110
02:19:54,470 --> 02:19:54,470
I would encourage. I want this issue wrapped up,
Please.

1111
02:19:58,910 --> 02:19:58,910
and commissioners, I think y'all's input is important on this particular agenda item.

1112
02:20:04,870 --> 02:20:08,430
all right. 59 discussion appropriate action authorizing purchase. Agent to advertise a request for proposal to combine inmate video visitation support
Services,

1113
02:20:15,190 --> 02:20:15,190
public coin and inmate phone services as requested by the bexar county sheriff's office.

1114
02:20:19,590 --> 02:20:19,590
mr. Galloway, good afternoon, commissioners. I am gregory mayor county.

1115
02:20:27,430 --> 02:20:27,430
miss mary beth stolte from bcit, who's worked tirelessly on this agenda item.

1116
02:20:36,230 --> 02:20:36,230
this one is the the inmate video visitation support services and public coin and inmate
Phone systems,

1117
02:20:43,310 --> 02:20:43,310
which was a combination just reminding the court for context,
A combination of two services that we've combined into one firm scope of work.

1118
02:20:51,530 --> 02:20:51,530
there was multiple changes to the scope of work during the process of building this rfp,
And we are now ready to move forward requesting the court's support in moving

1119
02:21:01,410 --> 02:21:01,410
this rfp forward. We're glad to take any questions or concerns that you may have regarding
This particular agenda item.

1120
02:21:09,210 --> 02:21:09,210
commissioner. Calvert. Does this include the tablets I see in the first page,
It has it in the scope of work,

1121
02:21:18,050 --> 02:21:22,010
but if you want to address it does. It does. Yes,
Sir. Go to the mic, please. Can you elaborate a little bit more about the tablets and in terms
Of how many and what the

1122
02:21:32,570 --> 02:21:35,810
I don't actually have the numbers off the top of my head. I know that the, the bcso was looking at innovations maybe in,
In the, in the environments for,

1123
02:21:44,490 --> 02:21:44,490
for the inmates. So I believe that the tablets were looking to be made available for for
Future use in that

1124
02:21:54,550 --> 02:21:58,390
they are one in each kiosk. I believe there are 64. Okay, y'all can have this discussion. You're talking to mike or pull to the side.

1125
02:22:02,350 --> 02:22:02,350
so commissioner there were six, I believe. And don't hold me to these numbers,
But we will get you for.

1126
02:22:06,750 --> 02:22:06,750
in fact, I think there's 64 kiosks and each one should have the tablet,
Which would be 64 tablets.

1127
02:22:11,910 --> 02:22:11,910
I don't know if they buffered in extras for damages or these things.

1128
02:22:17,710 --> 02:22:17,710
yes, sir. Commissioner moody. Well, I'm glad to see this this item make it back to court.

1129
02:22:26,510 --> 02:22:26,510
the intent and the background here was obviously trying to save the county money by
Offering the ability to bundle these

1130
02:22:35,830 --> 02:22:35,830
services for both the phone and the, the video services.

1131
02:22:41,830 --> 02:22:41,830
correct. Yes, sir. As we've discussed with that,
You know, intent coming from, from the court.

1132
02:22:49,960 --> 02:22:49,960
and, and the idea here would be that as you go forward trying to provide that flexibility,

1133
02:22:56,920 --> 02:22:56,920
whether it's bundled or the individual services in a partnership for their solicitation.

1134
02:23:04,200 --> 02:23:04,200
so I hope we can provide as much flexibility there as possible in order to ensure that you
Know,

1135
02:23:11,440 --> 02:23:11,440
we, we have vendors at the lowest cost to the county that,
That are effective in providing those services.

1136
02:23:18,080 --> 02:23:21,640
yes, commissioner. Commissioner rodriguez thank you. Judge. Mr. Galloway I know I think the current vendor is,
I think on a month to month or some extension.

1137
02:23:29,920 --> 02:23:29,920
what is your proposed timeline for this? Rfp no longer than six months.

1138
02:23:36,880 --> 02:23:39,960
we're going to do the 30 days post. Post and post. Once we receive the approval we'll close that down.

1139
02:23:42,820 --> 02:23:42,820
we'll start the evaluations of the actual proposals and then move forward with the
Recommendation,

1140
02:23:47,820 --> 02:23:47,820
bringing that back to commissioners court with the overall scores and the recommendation
Of the vendor,

1141
02:23:55,020 --> 02:23:55,020
which meets the best value. So I think I think you said no,
No more than six months.

1142
02:24:01,740 --> 02:24:01,740
is that what you said? Okay. So by the end of the calendar year I don't want to hold you
To that,

1143
02:24:06,540 --> 02:24:10,060
but your, your aim is to have some recommendation to the court. Absolutely. Okay. Thank you. Judge. Anything else?

1144
02:24:13,580 --> 02:24:13,580
yeah. Quick question. So in the meantime, is there a contract month to month?

1145
02:24:19,620 --> 02:24:19,620
yes, commissioner. Yes, ma'am. So it already expired and we're just renewing month to
Month. We have. We brought that I believe it was last commissioners court to extend.

1146
02:24:29,020 --> 02:24:29,020
so that's the one that was extended. Okay. All right. Thank you. No further questions. Any
Other comments?

1147
02:24:33,860 --> 02:24:33,860
questions? Hearing none. All those in favor that I get a motion on the floor.

1148
02:24:39,180 --> 02:24:39,180
I need a motion. All right. Motion by commissioner calvert.

1149
02:24:47,710 --> 02:24:47,710
second. Second by commissioner rodriguez. And we're item 59,
Correct?

1150
02:24:52,830 --> 02:24:55,230
all right. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed?

1151
02:24:58,830 --> 02:24:58,830
any extension. Motion carries. All right. I believe the next individual that does not fall
In executive is 65.

1152
02:25:09,350 --> 02:25:09,350
is that correct? 56. 056. Yeah. No, that's an executive.

1153
02:25:17,430 --> 02:25:17,430
okay. So I'm pulling up. 65 then we'll go to 66 and then we'll go to

1154
02:25:27,230 --> 02:25:27,230
67. I believe we will then break for lunch, but we'll continue with executive.

1155
02:25:33,270 --> 02:25:33,270
so just letting staff know you may have you may be eating lunch or you may be asked to
Come in executive.

1156
02:25:39,170 --> 02:25:39,170
so please confer with staff as to who may be needed for executive session.

1157
02:25:45,610 --> 02:25:45,610
so taking up item 65 discussion appropriate action regarding and we have approved late
File.

1158
02:25:51,650 --> 02:25:51,650
correct. Yes. So discussion appropriate action regarding approval of request by
Commissioner tommy calvert to appoint the following individual to the listed board of

1159
02:25:58,530 --> 02:25:58,530
commissioners. Vacancy for the term specified appears to be sheriff civil service
Commission.

1160
02:26:03,530 --> 02:26:03,530
peter vice chair commissioner. Calvert. I'd like to move approval of the applicant motion.

1161
02:26:09,490 --> 02:26:11,970
second by commissioner. Second by commissioner. Second by commissioner rodriguez. Any further discussion? I support this.

1162
02:26:16,650 --> 02:26:19,610
I'll call for a vote. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstention? Motion carries.

1163
02:26:23,370 --> 02:26:23,370
we'll now take up late file 66866 a. And corrected in the written agenda.

1164
02:26:32,810 --> 02:26:36,650
it's listed as 68 so I'll just note the correction. It's discussion appropriate action regarding approval request by commissioner justin
Rodriguez and his name needs to be corrected.

1165
02:26:44,390 --> 02:26:44,390
little typo rodriguez precinct two to appoint the following individual to the listed board
And commission for terms specified.

1166
02:26:51,350 --> 02:26:51,350
also for civil service commission. Michelle robledo.

1167
02:26:55,910 --> 02:26:55,910
is there a motion motion to approve? Judge with the correction to my first name spelling
There.

1168
02:27:02,910 --> 02:27:02,910
second. All right. The motion with the corrected spelling of the name which is very
Fundamental.

1169
02:27:10,110 --> 02:27:13,390
thomas. So let's not let's not have that happen again. All right. All right. And second by commissioner clay-flores.

1170
02:27:16,550 --> 02:27:20,470
all those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed any abstention. Motion carries. Last for individual and then we'll go to executive is 67.

1171
02:27:28,390 --> 02:27:28,390
that has been approved. I believe that needs to also be corrected in the number 67 a
Discussion appropriate action regarding approval,

1172
02:27:36,480 --> 02:27:36,480
execution of professional services agreement between bexar county and bexar county
Hospital district.

1173
02:27:41,240 --> 02:27:41,240
dba university health for the county to contribute $1,257,654 in general funds to identify
And provide mental health support,

1174
02:27:51,000 --> 02:27:51,000
to divert persons from incarceration and to facilitate treatment and continuity of care
Upon release into the community.

1175
02:27:59,200 --> 02:27:59,200
doctor guerrero. Yes. Thank you, judge. Commissioners,
This is just to approve the contract for the work that the that university health has been

1176
02:28:07,280 --> 02:28:07,280
doing in the gia, which calls for mental health screenings and then mental health
Assessments under the 1622 process.

1177
02:28:14,760 --> 02:28:17,040
they've been doing this work since october 1st. And so this is just codifying that work. All right.

1178
02:28:21,040 --> 02:28:21,040
any questions, commissioner rodriguez? I'll make a motion to approve judge. But quick
Question doc.

1179
02:28:25,920 --> 02:28:25,920
so this is part of the intake. Is that right.

1180
02:28:30,760 --> 02:28:30,760
yes. So the screening and I guess any assessment done for health reasons is now being done
By university health or it's been done

1181
02:28:40,620 --> 02:28:40,620
by university health. So this is just covering that contract.

1182
02:28:45,540 --> 02:28:45,540
has it been not quite a year or. No. It's been since october 1st since they took over
Operations.

1183
02:28:50,980 --> 02:28:50,980
yes. Okay. Great. Motion to approve. Motion by commissioner rodriguez.

1184
02:28:55,540 --> 02:28:58,940
I'll second that. Thank you for meeting with me earlier. Or was it last week, last week to discuss some of the questions I had about that?

1185
02:29:02,900 --> 02:29:02,900
so let's push forward. Thank you. Thank you,
Commissioner moody.

1186
02:29:07,900 --> 02:29:07,900
just a couple questions. So you said october 1st was when took took the reins there.

1187
02:29:14,900 --> 02:29:14,900
yes. Was there background or reasoning for. Obviously it's been what,
8 or 9 months now?

1188
02:29:22,860 --> 02:29:22,860
yeah. So originally this is budgeted for $4.8 million.

1189
02:29:27,180 --> 02:29:27,180
in previous years that encompassed not just the mental health assessments,
But diversion work and some other programs that were being conducted by chcs.

1190
02:29:38,080 --> 02:29:38,080
we wanted to offer a period of transition with chcs to hash out some of the other pieces
Of that contract that excluded the mental health assessments.

1191
02:29:46,560 --> 02:29:46,560
that took several months, and we were not able to come to terms with them.

1192
02:29:50,600 --> 02:29:50,600
and so we kind of had to wait a few months so that we would know kind of what we were able
To budget for,

1193
02:29:55,480 --> 02:29:58,720
just the mental health assessment piece. Okay. And is anybody from here? They're not. Yeah,
We, we've been back and forth, but because the fluid nature of the agenda

1194
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
today, they had some other meetings they had to attend to at okay.

1195
02:30:14,960 --> 02:30:14,960
obviously it's probably a broader discussion with leadership,
But I guess a question to county staff again,

1196
02:30:22,800 --> 02:30:22,800
is that the medical health assessments and health

1197
02:30:32,330 --> 02:30:32,330
care that's provided within the jail. Is there any reimbursement policy with for any of
The medical care they provide our

1198
02:30:42,290 --> 02:30:42,290
inmates? It's not a contract within my department.

1199
02:30:48,090 --> 02:30:48,090
I defer to county staff. I believe we have a contract with us for that.

1200
02:30:53,850 --> 02:30:57,170
okay. And yeah, for medical care. I don't think we pay for that. Okay. I guess I've never seen that come across in court.

1201
02:31:03,490 --> 02:31:03,490
I think that's an old, old contract. I don't have a copy,
But I could do the research for you on that.

1202
02:31:09,170 --> 02:31:09,170
what? What contract do you mean? You mean a contract directly with us?

1203
02:31:15,290 --> 02:31:15,290
what my point that I'm trying to get at is the,
The traditional medical care versus mental health care and whether we are paying for for

1204
02:31:24,810 --> 02:31:24,810
one, but not the other, because we've talked a lot in this court about mental health care
Is medical care,

1205
02:31:32,790 --> 02:31:32,790
right? Why are we differentiating the two? That's that's the point of my question.

1206
02:31:37,470 --> 02:31:37,470
oh, well, keep in mind that the us is the county hospital.

1207
02:31:41,870 --> 02:31:45,710
so I think their specialty is medical care, not necessarily mental health care. We have a local mental health authority. We don't have a contract with us there.

1208
02:31:51,190 --> 02:31:51,190
they were created pursuant to an election and they're taxed.

1209
02:31:55,590 --> 02:31:55,590
the residents are taxed for that care that they provide,
That indigent care, which includes detainees in the mostly.

1210
02:32:04,150 --> 02:32:07,990
and I think they cover all that care. There's not a contract for that. Well, it's it's funny that you're mentioning the mental health authority,
But at the same time,

1211
02:32:12,350 --> 02:32:12,350
we're utilizing now going forward for those mental health care services in the jail,
I think it's something we can take up offline directly with.

1212
02:32:21,230 --> 02:32:21,230
but I just think it's something we should, we should explore in conversations going
Forward.

1213
02:32:26,830 --> 02:32:30,760
well, you have to understand the specific responsibilities of those entities. Us has a duty. The mha does not necessarily have that specific duty as far as the vis a
Vis the jail.

1214
02:32:38,400 --> 02:32:38,400
so you have to keep their actual responsibilities in mind when you're considering those,
Because us has a specific obligation to treat

1215
02:32:48,440 --> 02:32:48,440
indigent persons in bexar county because they are supported by tax revenue.

1216
02:32:52,680 --> 02:32:52,680
so just keep that in mind that their specific obligations are very different.

1217
02:32:58,120 --> 02:32:58,120
so they're funded by the mha is funded by the state,
Whereas the us is funded directly with tax dollars of people living in bexar county.

1218
02:33:06,040 --> 02:33:06,040
so just there's a quite a bit of reasoning behind why they do what they do and how they do
It.

1219
02:33:13,920 --> 02:33:13,920
so just part of the record, I think fundamentally,
Historically, we've looked at mental health care separate from physical health care,

1220
02:33:23,200 --> 02:33:23,200
but those lines are going away. So anyway, it's worth a future discussions.

1221
02:33:32,380 --> 02:33:32,380
thank you for your comments. I do doctor. To understand the contract and we had a brief
Discussion from a legal perspective,

1222
02:33:42,380 --> 02:33:42,380
but just in functionality and what it means. And we've had comments today public comments
About how services are delivered at the jail or lack of services.

1223
02:33:52,740 --> 02:33:52,740
and so we need to be very careful with this as we look at the whole process and regards to
How things are handled at the jail.

1224
02:34:01,860 --> 02:34:01,860
and I think, mr. Roberson, you will have that discussion in executive,
But I want to focus in on what we're doing today.

1225
02:34:10,260 --> 02:34:10,260
this agenda item focuses on the expert screening for mental health,
Behavioral health, and intellectual and developmental

1226
02:34:19,860 --> 02:34:19,860
disabilities, often called the id patients or people incarcerated because of their
Disability.

1227
02:34:26,720 --> 02:34:26,720
is that correct? Yes, although it is covered under a separate contract with acog.

1228
02:34:32,280 --> 02:34:32,280
but for this specific to mental health services and there is some level of substance use
Screening that is also performed by staff.

1229
02:34:38,560 --> 02:34:38,560
so the purpose of this agenda item for purposes of payment to us,
Is to the

1230
02:34:48,040 --> 02:34:48,040
result of the programs to identify individuals at jail intake who are eligible for
Relevant diversion programs.

1231
02:34:55,880 --> 02:34:55,880
correct? Yes. And we know that what 6000 people who come to the jail each year,
I mean, they're coming in and out and they're probably duplicated with

1232
02:35:05,840 --> 02:35:05,840
people that come continue to go in and out. Only a fraction is eligible for diversion
Programs,

1233
02:35:12,480 --> 02:35:12,480
correct? Yes. So it's very crucial that this program be very succinct,
Concise in order to truly create a diversion

1234
02:35:22,250 --> 02:35:22,250
program for people at the jail. Correct? Yes.

1235
02:35:26,290 --> 02:35:26,290
and this is backed up not because of what you or the court wants,
But this was a recommendation by doctor testa and the report we continue to rely

1236
02:35:36,130 --> 02:35:36,130
upon on the gia, which is the old magistrate's system.

1237
02:35:40,530 --> 02:35:43,930
and you've heard comments about that in regards to how. So this ultimately streamlines screenings, enhances diversion.

1238
02:35:49,050 --> 02:35:49,050
is that a correct statement? Yes. And I want to go on record even though they're not here.

1239
02:35:55,770 --> 02:35:55,770
but is editor barnes for his leadership in university health.

1240
02:36:00,210 --> 02:36:00,210
and we have ongoing discussions on how the operations at the jail are happening,
Even at this time.

1241
02:36:06,890 --> 02:36:06,890
correct? Absolutely, yes. And I also want to thank you,
Doctor andrea guerrero, for your leadership with the bexar county public health

1242
02:36:13,570 --> 02:36:13,570
department. Although we have we've had this discussion of mental health and medical
Support.

1243
02:36:22,910 --> 02:36:26,430
the reality is we're dealing with the same person. And so what we have found and what we're hoping to accomplish at some point is the
Integration of all those services so that all these services don't live in

1244
02:36:36,350 --> 02:36:36,350
silos, which creates gaps. And, and sometimes people fall into gaps and they don't get the
Services they need because the systems,

1245
02:36:44,950 --> 02:36:48,430
the silos, the bureaucracies don't talk to each other. Is that a true statement? Yes. It has been an issue in the past and has been cited as a
Barrier.

1246
02:36:53,390 --> 02:36:53,390
yes. So what would you say succinctly today? Short sentence here,
Mr.

1247
02:36:58,430 --> 02:36:58,430
doctor. I know you like to explain it. What are you trying to accomplish through the
Public health department in regards to to the issues there at the jail?

1248
02:37:07,590 --> 02:37:07,590
without getting to any specifics. Give me an overall high level statement specific to this
Contract.

1249
02:37:16,110 --> 02:37:16,110
the critical finding that you spoke about with doctor testa's evaluation was,
The recommendation that medical care and mental health screening and assessment

1250
02:37:26,120 --> 02:37:26,120
be brought under one provider specifically to address gaps in communication,
Siloed services,

1251
02:37:32,400 --> 02:37:32,400
because it would create a more efficient process so that folks would have greater access
To mental health assessment and then subsequently diversion and appropriate care once they

1252
02:37:41,080 --> 02:37:41,080
leave the jail. All right. Any further discussion?

1253
02:37:45,520 --> 02:37:45,520
who who moved on this one? Motion by commissioner rodriguez.

1254
02:37:50,360 --> 02:37:50,360
second. Second by commissioner clay-flores. All those in favor of the motion to signify
Saying aye.

1255
02:37:54,720 --> 02:37:54,720
aye. Any opposed? Any abstention? Motion carries.

1256
02:37:59,000 --> 02:37:59,000
one more time. Staff is there. I believe we have concluded all those items except for
Those that will be discussed in executive.

1257
02:38:07,520 --> 02:38:07,520
before we do that, let me alert staff that we have councils that are on retainer

1258
02:38:17,180 --> 02:38:17,180
and they're getting paid to sit here. I believe we have two agenda items that have that
Dynamic.

1259
02:38:22,380 --> 02:38:22,380
so I'm going to ask larry, in regards to executive,
Can you kind of line them up and tell me which ones we need to.

1260
02:38:29,820 --> 02:38:33,700
but I would like to get the lawyers out of here so that I can stop the clock. Sorry, bill, but yeah, I really I want to be have be compensated,
But I need you in those.

1261
02:38:41,540 --> 02:38:41,540
I need the legal advice and not you there. So,
Larry, can you give some direction before we close for executive speaking of mike.

1262
02:38:53,260 --> 02:38:53,260
what was that item 7070. Yes. Oh, okay. Got it.

1263
02:39:02,940 --> 02:39:02,940
let me now take up item seven. I need I need a okay.

1264
02:39:09,340 --> 02:39:09,340
70 is pursuant to section five. 51.0725 deliberations regarding contract being negotiated
A to deliberate business and financial issues

1265
02:39:19,320 --> 02:39:19,320
related to negotiated development agreement. Similar document proposed to be negotiated
Between bexar county,

1266
02:39:24,160 --> 02:39:27,280
texas political subdivision and coliseum advisory board. San antonio livestock exposition, inc., a texas nonprofit corporation related to the
Redevelopment revitalization of the freeman coliseum complex grounds and facility

1267
02:39:37,120 --> 02:39:40,160
so long as. Before convening the closed meeting one. The court votes unanimously that deliberation in an open meeting would have a detrimental
Effect on the position of the commissioners court negotiations with third persons and two.

1268
02:39:49,440 --> 02:39:49,440
the attorney advising the court issues a written determination that deliberation in an
Open meeting would have a detrimental effect on the position of the court in negotiations

1269
02:39:57,640 --> 02:40:00,880
with third persons in regards to agenda item 70. Can I have a motion? Motion by commissioner calvert.

1270
02:40:05,360 --> 02:40:09,280
second by commissioner clay-flores. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Do we have a unanimous vote for you, mr. Robeson.

1271
02:40:18,490 --> 02:40:18,490
I don't know. Yes. Are you

1272
02:40:28,730 --> 02:40:28,730
participating in the vote? Yes. Okay. So you haven't been addressed.

1273
02:40:33,370 --> 02:40:33,370
all right. All right. So let me also put in the record.

1274
02:40:39,290 --> 02:40:41,250
the court will now convene executive session. Executive session items may be discussed and act upon appropriate and open session
Pursuant to section 55107.

1275
02:40:47,530 --> 02:40:47,530
one of the texas texas government code executive session will be held for consultation
With the courts attorney for advice regarding a pending or contemplated litigation or

1276
02:40:56,810 --> 02:40:56,810
settlement offers and the matters of ledesma and guerrero versus bexar county and gonzales
Versus bexar county be a matter in which the duty of the attorney to the governmental body

1277
02:41:05,890 --> 02:41:05,890
of the texas disciplinary rules of professional conduct of the state bar of texas clearly
Conflicts with chapter 551 of the texas government code.

1278
02:41:13,430 --> 02:41:13,430
specifically one legal issues related to requests by the bexar county appraisal district
For bexar county to intervene in pending litigation related to a suit filed by bcd

1279
02:41:23,670 --> 02:41:23,670
alleging a failure by certain housing finance corporations operating bexar county to
Maintain tax exemptions required by texas law to.

1280
02:41:31,550 --> 02:41:31,550
legal issues related to the receipt of a notification of appointment of a court
Coordinator and demand for release of funds by judges of the two 25th and two 85th

1281
02:41:39,390 --> 02:41:39,390
district courts, as well as consideration of the potential staffing resources needs of the
Remaining 12 civil district court judges.

1282
02:41:46,190 --> 02:41:46,190
three legal issues related to collective bargaining agreement with the deputy sheriff's
Association of bexar county entered into pursuant to chapter 174 of the local government

1283
02:41:54,590 --> 02:41:54,590
code for legal issues related to the redevelopment renovation of south beach pavilion
Facility located at fort sam houston joint base san antonio

1284
02:42:04,390 --> 02:42:04,390
in support of the defense health agency. Five legal issues related to processing or
Housing of detainees at the bexar county detention center and pending cases

1285
02:42:14,520 --> 02:42:14,520
naming bexar county or bexar county sheriff in his official capacity as a defender.

1286
02:42:20,600 --> 02:42:20,600
I believe we have taken up the matter in regards to the coliseum advisory board.

1287
02:42:25,720 --> 02:42:25,720
san antonio livestock exposition and the vote is the court has voted unanimously.

1288
02:42:30,760 --> 02:42:30,760
so at this time, the time is 1151. The court is open.

1289
02:42:35,880 --> 02:42:35,880
court is closed. Larry, who do you want in regards to certain agenda items?

1290
02:42:43,840 --> 02:42:43,840
so we're going to do first we're going to do 71st david council from the houston lawyers.

1291
02:42:53,920 --> 02:42:57,080
and then we're going to do the judges second. Then we're doing the judges. And who needs to be in there beside you?

1292
02:43:00,480 --> 02:43:00,480
so, judge, I'm going to request that each commissioner chief of staff be included in the
Conversation,

1293
02:43:05,680 --> 02:43:05,680
not in the conversation, but to actually observed successful policy on the court.

1294
02:43:10,740 --> 02:43:13,460
I think this issue they should hear this conversation. Which item? The. The. 225282. No. The. What what what?

1295
02:43:23,740 --> 02:43:23,740
he said they're contacting her to come down. Okay.

1296
02:43:30,860 --> 02:43:30,860
okay. Well, then I'm putting this.

1297
02:43:44,380 --> 02:43:44,380
I know we're going to. Let's let's take let's take those that we get a vote on.

1298
02:43:49,540 --> 02:43:49,540
so what. 61, 62, 6061, 62, 63, 64.

1299
02:43:57,780 --> 02:43:57,780
6056. 60. One. 64.

1300
02:44:14,640 --> 02:44:14,640
you know, I, I, I know, I know. Which.

1301
02:45:02,040 --> 02:45:05,130
time is 2:21 p.m. We're back in open session. I believe we're going to take some action on certain items and we'll see.

1302
02:45:08,570 --> 02:45:08,570
so let me pull up item 63. And then I'm going to follow that with 64.

1303
02:45:18,890 --> 02:45:18,890
so. Mr. Roberson. 63 I believe was

1304
02:45:28,770 --> 02:45:28,770
discussed in executive. Was there going to be any action to take.

1305
02:45:34,410 --> 02:45:34,410
and his staff prepared to make any recommendations to the court on 63?

1306
02:45:40,330 --> 02:45:40,330
no, judge. I think we're clear. I think we'll bring an item back for august 4th meeting.

1307
02:45:46,850 --> 02:45:50,730
okay. So there's a discussion on a motion to table. So we can just drop that item judge or just drop it.

1308
02:45:53,250 --> 02:45:53,250
just drop it. All right. 63 is dropped. All right.

1309
02:45:58,330 --> 02:45:58,330
what about item 64. Is there a motion. Judge,
I'd like to make a motion to table 64.

1310
02:46:06,830 --> 02:46:06,830
I think there's been some discussion about bringing this back.

1311
02:46:11,590 --> 02:46:11,590
august the or some version of this. August 4th is our next meeting.

1312
02:46:17,310 --> 02:46:17,310
it's the fourth. August 4th. So I make a motion to table it to august 4th.

1313
02:46:21,470 --> 02:46:25,190
second. All right. There's a motion second. Any further discussion? Yes. Table commissioner. Moode. There's many items here.

1314
02:46:32,710 --> 02:46:32,710
as we said in the the background on the slide,
We had a conversation regarding some of the challenges and opportunities

1315
02:46:42,910 --> 02:46:42,910
regarding facilities at the jail, diversion strategies and many other items back in april.

1316
02:46:52,070 --> 02:46:52,070
that was, was sought for many months. I thought it was a good discussion.

1317
02:46:56,550 --> 02:46:56,550
and as I was going to highlight today with item 64 we had some goodness come out of that,
Including the understanding that the applewhite facility

1318
02:47:06,680 --> 02:47:06,680
was not being utilized the way it could because they didn't have prescription meds.

1319
02:47:12,880 --> 02:47:12,880
from that conversation, we actually were able to successfully start moving individuals
Over into the applewhite facility,

1320
02:47:19,560 --> 02:47:19,560
just highlighting the value of having that discussion.

1321
02:47:24,640 --> 02:47:24,640
but we didn't cover everything, which is why,
First of all, we want to come back and have this discussion today.

1322
02:47:31,600 --> 02:47:31,600
highlight the applewhite success. Get an update on laurel ridge,
Which we've had our friends from strack here waiting for five hours,

1323
02:47:39,600 --> 02:47:39,600
six, six hours now, as well as to to cover the previous studies,
Which would be great review for this court.

1324
02:47:49,960 --> 02:47:49,960
the strategic studies we paid for spent a quarter million dollars on.

1325
02:47:54,520 --> 02:47:54,520
regarding the meadows study doctor testa's study.

1326
02:47:59,000 --> 02:47:59,000
the sash study, which would be of great value to this court as we go into an august
Session

1327
02:48:09,500 --> 02:48:09,500
and hopefully get more towards alignment on what potential solutions are available.

1328
02:48:14,180 --> 02:48:14,180
but I would challenge, you know, this court to identify what those strategic
Recommendations from meadows are that are in this powerpoint that we were going to

1329
02:48:24,180 --> 02:48:24,180
discuss today. So we would know what some of those recommendations that are on the table
As we go forward and direct staff to bring something back in august.

1330
02:48:36,220 --> 02:48:36,220
there's many slides here with recommendations from those studies that we paid for,
Some of which have been implemented,

1331
02:48:43,500 --> 02:48:43,500
some haven't been implemented. But without that knowledge,
What, where, where are we going to go forward from here?

1332
02:48:54,660 --> 02:48:54,660
I'll just bring up one more point because obviously the,
The die has been cast here politically.

1333
02:49:01,200 --> 02:49:01,200
but the unfortunate thing is we were asked a couple of weeks ago to to go up and testify
In the state

1334
02:49:10,320 --> 02:49:10,320
legislature before committee. And it was an opportunity.

1335
02:49:16,160 --> 02:49:16,160
and, you know, there was there was a desire for me to go.

1336
02:49:21,800 --> 02:49:25,320
I could talk about, you know, need for mental health beds. I could talk about opportunities for regional psychiatric hospital.

1337
02:49:29,600 --> 02:49:29,600
there are a lot of things I could talk about,
But we don't have a strategy and a game plan on that front.

1338
02:49:35,600 --> 02:49:35,600
and without having these open discussions, whether that's in a work session,
Whether that's in open court or whether that's in task force behind the scenes,

1339
02:49:43,960 --> 02:49:43,960
we don't know what we're advocating for. I can't go and advocate if I don't know what our
Strategy is.

1340
02:49:49,840 --> 02:49:49,840
so I'll leave it there. I hope we can have a productive discussion in august.

1341
02:49:56,610 --> 02:49:56,610
this has taken too long. I'll call for a vote.

1342
02:50:02,130 --> 02:50:02,130
all those in favor of the motion to table 64 signify by saying aye.

1343
02:50:08,330 --> 02:50:08,330
aye. Any opposed? Any abstention? What was that?

1344
02:50:15,850 --> 02:50:15,850
motion carries. Motion. What's that? Oh, yes.

1345
02:50:20,010 --> 02:50:22,210
we do have some citizens be heard. Let me call you up. Give you an opportunity. Understanding. We're bringing this all back in august.

1346
02:50:26,610 --> 02:50:26,610
so I just want to be fair with you. I also want to put on record alerting county.

1347
02:50:32,970 --> 02:50:32,970
let's make this a time certain so that people don't have in light of and I'll be honest,
I wasn't aware that people were being summoned.

1348
02:50:42,650 --> 02:50:42,650
and I'm going to be real blunt. This is process of communication.

1349
02:50:47,050 --> 02:50:47,050
had I known we have professionals there who spent five hours,
I would have brought this up earlier and we would have been able to tell them this

1350
02:50:55,910 --> 02:50:55,910
morning. Either you could stay at this time certain or you could leave or we're coming
Back.

1351
02:51:04,270 --> 02:51:04,270
so with all due deference to my colleagues, I would ask for better communication to better
Help us understand the needs.

1352
02:51:13,750 --> 02:51:13,750
and also, pursuant to executive session advice of counsel,
We've been asked to please be very careful with these

1353
02:51:23,230 --> 02:51:23,230
particular issues, and we're going to have a full,
Robust discussion on august the 4th.

1354
02:51:30,350 --> 02:51:30,350
the people want to walk off the dais, I understand,
But then they can't hear me, can they?

1355
02:51:36,830 --> 02:51:36,830
and that's the problem. So let me just make it real clear that the court.

1356
02:51:44,670 --> 02:51:44,670
yeah. So noted. You're off the dais. So let me be very clear as the as the a county judge
And larry

1357
02:51:54,520 --> 02:51:54,520
roberson, I have the ability to help the court with this agenda,
With the discussions and

1358
02:52:04,280 --> 02:52:04,280
to help staff so that the staff has direction as to how they're to proceed.

1359
02:52:11,680 --> 02:52:11,680
is that inherently in my authority, or am I overstepping my authority by asking and
Supporting a motion to table?

1360
02:52:23,360 --> 02:52:26,880
I think that was the motion that was made judge and the court voted on it. So there's nothing inherently improper with that.

1361
02:52:31,960 --> 02:52:31,960
thank you. All right. Evan, is it marcus? Marcus,
Do you wish to speak at this

1362
02:52:41,800 --> 02:52:45,520
time or do you wish to come at the august meeting? Go ahead. You have three minutes. It's my first time,
So please excuse me.

1363
02:52:51,580 --> 02:52:53,980
commission court. Thank you for hearing me out. I am a custodial parent of a 12 year old who is five foot six and a half and 190 pounds.

1364
02:52:59,420 --> 02:52:59,420
he's an autistic child that is that's delayed.

1365
02:53:05,060 --> 02:53:05,060
he also has been abused and sexually assaulted three times.

1366
02:53:09,980 --> 02:53:09,980
so besides his explosive behaviors, now he has these new problems to cope with.

1367
02:53:14,740 --> 02:53:14,740
I have become his punching bag for years for this,
For what the state offers, for reporting and seeking help for such incidents.

1368
02:53:23,300 --> 02:53:23,300
you get bexar county sheriffs with guns out,
Guns drawn out at a mental health crisis instead of a smart team.

1369
02:53:31,820 --> 02:53:31,820
then they will arrest your child and tell you that their hands are tied up.

1370
02:53:39,060 --> 02:53:39,060
hours later, the juvenile detention center asks,
Why is your child there and he should be at a hospital.

1371
02:53:47,020 --> 02:53:47,020
meanwhile, cps closed cases. Not looking into it and ignores not just you,
But others calling.

1372
02:53:55,760 --> 02:53:55,760
for acog and c, c, c, c, s or 211. They will tell you that it's not any of their business.

1373
02:54:03,600 --> 02:54:03,600
did you call cps? Did you call the police? After checking all their boxes,
They will tell you.

1374
02:54:09,240 --> 02:54:09,240
they will tell you that there's nothing that they can do. You also get also told bad
Things.

1375
02:54:16,440 --> 02:54:19,680
you must be mistaken. That can't be. That's not right. Do you have the documentation of our long conversations?

1376
02:54:24,360 --> 02:54:24,360
then then when they ask you such documents, then when you ask them for such documentation,

1377
02:54:29,800 --> 02:54:29,800
there's answers. Was I. We can't do that. It's a legal thing.

1378
02:54:35,400 --> 02:54:35,400
and, or you need to go online and get an application and then not get it.

1379
02:54:41,720 --> 02:54:41,720
after that, they will start questioning you slash me,
Why you called cps or bexar county while violating your rights.

1380
02:54:50,370 --> 02:54:50,370
telling you it could have happened anywhere. You can't protect your child everywhere from
Everything.

1381
02:54:59,290 --> 02:54:59,290
the moment you get upset and you start reporting them for violating your rights and them
Telling you such things,

1382
02:55:06,650 --> 02:55:06,650
you'll get a letter of being labeled as hostile,
Intimidating, not keeping staff safe as backlash following the suspension of your child

1383
02:55:15,850 --> 02:55:15,850
services. Then you'll get cps knocking on your door,
Investigating the moment someone makes a report.

1384
02:55:23,090 --> 02:55:23,090
you slash me. A lawyer costs $4,500 $10,500 as a retainer.

1385
02:55:31,890 --> 02:55:31,890
that's not happening. I can't afford that. The local help is already overwhelmed.

1386
02:55:37,250 --> 02:55:37,250
just for everybody. These organizations are corrupt,
Lacking integrity and dishonest, and they're structurally biased.

1387
02:55:46,710 --> 02:55:46,710
I am asking you to hold them accountable by providing more training.

1388
02:55:50,830 --> 02:55:50,830
stop. Stop them when they're acting poorly and providing them with more resources and not
Closing things down like laurel ridge and other facilities.

1389
02:56:00,870 --> 02:56:00,870
h. H. S health and human services manages most of most of these programs,
And they should be more involved.

1390
02:56:09,190 --> 02:56:09,190
that is all. My name is evan mattis. Thank you.

1391
02:56:25,230 --> 02:56:25,230
good afternoon. My commissioner is gone. Mr. Murray.

1392
02:56:32,630 --> 02:56:32,630
oh. That's okay. I'm just joking. Well, we need a mental health facility for autistic
Mentally challenged people with behavioral disorders.

1393
02:56:41,790 --> 02:56:41,790
when a person has a behavior episode and the police are called.

1394
02:56:46,450 --> 02:56:46,450
the police take them to jail where they mistreated by guards because they don't know how
To work with them in any training.

1395
02:56:53,450 --> 02:56:53,450
there's only one living center in san antonio,
And this individual san antonio, said assisted living center.

1396
02:57:00,050 --> 02:57:03,410
and it takes years before you can get accepted. Only one place for so many kids like my grandson.

1397
02:57:08,410 --> 02:57:12,170
my grandson is 21 years old, weighs 200 pounds. Five. Seven. He can beat the lights out of me,
But he doesn't come.

1398
02:57:16,810 --> 02:57:16,810
he doesn't have the comprehension. And I noticed that a lot of people and police officers,

1399
02:57:21,650 --> 02:57:21,650
they don't comprehend that this ability, that he has a behavioral disorder,
He's not crazy.

1400
02:57:27,330 --> 02:57:27,330
he's not a drug addict. And he's not a sex offender.

1401
02:57:31,850 --> 02:57:31,850
he doesn't kill anybody anyway. So laurel ridge is closing.

1402
02:57:37,770 --> 02:57:37,770
so it would be good if they can open the place for for kids like my grandson,
Because we don't have nothing.

1403
02:57:45,100 --> 02:57:45,100
just just half of it. Because I know you have a place for a mental health,
The regular mental health,

1404
02:57:51,380 --> 02:57:51,380
but mine is not is different. If you don't, if you don't know what I'm talking about,
I invite you to come to my house and spend the day with me,

1405
02:58:00,380 --> 02:58:00,380
or go visit the facility, which is a new brantford street and as a as a mother,
Grandmother and guardian of the boy,

1406
02:58:10,420 --> 02:58:10,420
I have witnessed the police abuse firsthand. My grandson and I've been abused by the
Police,

1407
02:58:20,220 --> 02:58:23,580
and I know I've been coming to talk to you so many times. I talked to even the governor. And there's only 13 hospitals for kids with severe
Disabilities,

1408
02:58:32,220 --> 02:58:32,220
like my grandson. And when he was incarcerated,
He's one of the 3 to 5 year olds.

1409
02:58:39,020 --> 02:58:39,020
so he's not right. He needs to go to a place like texanna is in houston.

1410
02:58:44,040 --> 02:58:44,040
they have a place over there and they have a building for growth and a building for growth
For boys.

1411
02:58:49,040 --> 02:58:52,960
and over there they trained them with medicine,
With everything. So when they go over there, they can send them to a group home because a group homes,
You have to check on them because they're nothing but a fraud

1412
02:59:03,160 --> 02:59:03,160
group. Homes make about 5 to $6000 for each child,
And that is a rip off.

1413
02:59:10,520 --> 02:59:14,400
and I thank you so very much. You have any questions? My number is there. And and I hope you I hope things will change because I'm not talking
For me,

1414
02:59:22,440 --> 02:59:26,000
mr. Rodriguez. Mr. Rodriguez, I'm not talking for me. I'm talking for all of them. You know me forever.

1415
02:59:28,760 --> 02:59:30,840
I've been coming to you since you were in austin. So please, I'm talking for many kids, not just mine.

1416
02:59:36,360 --> 02:59:36,360
thank you very much. Thank you, miss wilson. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. And god
Bless your grandson. I just want to professional courtesy,

1417
02:59:46,250 --> 02:59:46,250
I think. Judge nita, are you you've asked to sign up,
Or is she.

1418
02:59:50,970 --> 02:59:54,730
is she here? Do you wish to speak at this time? I have not called it up, but if you. If you're on a time,
You're free to talk or I'll call.

1419
02:59:59,450 --> 03:00:02,730
I'll call it up when we address agenda item 60. But that's we're not doing that right now. 60 minutes 60 is next.

1420
03:00:09,690 --> 03:00:09,690
oh. No, I'm trying to accommodate. So if you need to get back,
I'm giving you.

1421
03:00:15,290 --> 03:00:15,290
but otherwise let me wait for you to call. We'll call the agenda item.

1422
03:00:19,930 --> 03:00:19,930
all right, all right. She might. Yeah. Let's let's go back to 56.

1423
03:00:26,450 --> 03:00:26,450
right. Well, let me just let me call up agenda item number 56.

1424
03:00:32,290 --> 03:00:32,290
presentation discussion appropriate action regarding the south beach project,
Including a submission or pro offer.

1425
03:00:39,430 --> 03:00:39,430
letter by bexar county city of san antonio concerning the redevelopment renovation of
South beach pavilion facility located at fort sam houston joint base san antonio in

1426
03:00:48,710 --> 03:00:48,710
support of defense health agency operational objectives,
Military medical readiness and the continued enhancement of joint base san antonio as the

1427
03:00:57,430 --> 03:01:01,430
nation's largest, most complex military medical market. The letter offers $25 million in improvements to joint base san antonio,
Fort sam for the core and shell renovation of the south beach

1428
03:01:10,950 --> 03:01:10,950
pavilion to serve as the future home of the defense health agency.

1429
03:01:16,150 --> 03:01:16,150
10 million of which will be funded by the county,
10 million by the city and 5 million in state of texas grants.

1430
03:01:23,790 --> 03:01:23,790
the submission of the pro offer letter is the first step towards project implementation,
Be.

1431
03:01:30,190 --> 03:01:30,190
direction to staff to move forward with bexar county as lead entity project director
Related to the redevelopment renovation of the south beach pavilion facility

1432
03:01:40,050 --> 03:01:40,050
located at fort sam houston joint base san antonio,
In support of the defense health agency and authorizing the facilities management director

1433
03:01:48,130 --> 03:01:51,890
to prepare project delivery plans for court review. Mr. Curry. Thank you. Judge dan curry, director of facilities for bexar county,
And I always appreciate you reading the motions for me at a time.

1434
03:02:01,450 --> 03:02:04,530
you don't need to repeat it. I will not. Let's move. So in the efforts of time, I'll give you a little bit of background.

1435
03:02:08,010 --> 03:02:08,010
the south beach pavilion. South beach pavilion is located on jbsa fort sam houston.

1436
03:02:13,050 --> 03:02:16,450
it's 130,000 square foot building built in the 1930s. It's had numerous different functions, whether hospital,
Dormitory, other things.

1437
03:02:20,930 --> 03:02:20,930
and recently the rest of that quad has been developed into administrative offices in
Support of other agencies for the military mission.

1438
03:02:28,610 --> 03:02:28,610
it does require upgrades and modernization for future use.

1439
03:02:33,500 --> 03:02:33,500
so again, there was an effort through the city and the county to provide some needed
Funding to get that project off the

1440
03:02:43,300 --> 03:02:43,300
ground. The end goal of this would have dha consolidate some of their leases and bring
Additional staff up to 650 to that site,

1441
03:02:51,940 --> 03:02:51,940
generating some economic impact for sure. So the funding and grants summary is this.

1442
03:02:57,020 --> 03:02:57,020
the city of san antonio is offering $10 million,
Just like we were offering $10 million.

1443
03:03:02,180 --> 03:03:02,180
the city of san antonio was successful in march in receiving a grant from the state of
Texas for $5 million.

1444
03:03:07,940 --> 03:03:07,940
there is another open enrollment for that grant application in september that the county
Plans to submit their own to try to obtain an additional $5 million for the original $30

1445
03:03:17,660 --> 03:03:17,660
million commitment. So right now, our proffer offer to the jbsa is the 25 to 30 million,
Not to exceed at least 25,

1446
03:03:27,060 --> 03:03:30,580
up to $30 million in improvements on the on the campus. So just a quick update. Efforts to date, we've done through pre-design.

1447
03:03:34,240 --> 03:03:37,160
this project has kind of been in the background for a little while. We grabbed the old plans that we had. We validated the scope of work.

1448
03:03:41,080 --> 03:03:44,160
we did the threat assessment on the basis required by base staff. We coordinated with their civil engineering division,
And we developed a really good cost estimate and what the scope of work is going to be for

1449
03:03:49,680 --> 03:03:49,680
this project. So there'll be two phases. The first one is the core and shell,
Which basically get the outside of the building ready,

1450
03:03:55,560 --> 03:03:59,000
fully restored to historic standards and ready for the finish out. Phase two will be fully borne by dha, so they'll pay for the finish out,
Which means the sheetrock,

1451
03:04:06,040 --> 03:04:06,040
the carpet, floor tile, all those other things,
Including furniture and moving costs.

1452
03:04:11,800 --> 03:04:11,800
there are other requirements on the base. As you know,
There's something called the unified facilities criteria and threat assessment levels,

1453
03:04:18,120 --> 03:04:18,120
which when you're on a military base, building construction is wholly different than
Commercial construction.

1454
03:04:23,120 --> 03:04:23,120
we believe we have a good handle on that. So the proffer is technically an offer of a gift
Of construction.

1455
03:04:29,930 --> 03:04:29,930
so the county is offering to do $25 million in construction to a facility on jbsa fort
Sam.

1456
03:04:37,770 --> 03:04:37,770
we have to provide this offer letter jointly with the city and the county,
And it will go up to jbsa command staff.

1457
03:04:45,250 --> 03:04:45,250
and then once the command staff accepts that offer,
Since it's over $750,000, it'll go for congressional approval at the in washington,

1458
03:04:53,930 --> 03:04:53,930
d.c., we have all those kind of paths lined out.

1459
03:05:00,450 --> 03:05:03,570
and so again, we're executing the proper first here. We're providing it to the city of san antonio,
Hopefully for action in august. And then it'll it'll go on its way to those federal

1460
03:05:09,250 --> 03:05:09,250
entities. So again, we're asking today permission to to submit have the county judge sign
That proffer letter so we can provide it to the city for its next

1461
03:05:19,410 --> 03:05:22,650
step, and then offer it to jbsa for confirmation. And b, allowing the county to be the project lead on the project,
Which will allow me to work in the background and bring you guys back.

1462
03:05:29,830 --> 03:05:29,830
agreements and plans and commissioners court,
Hopefully in august so we can get a good path forward. Are you asking for a motion just on

1463
03:05:37,550 --> 03:05:37,550
I need it on a and b, a and b move for approval and and any objection to merge those two
Agenda items.

1464
03:05:44,270 --> 03:05:44,270
put them please put it back on as long as no other commissioner has an objection.

1465
03:05:48,510 --> 03:05:48,510
what's that? As long as no other commissioner has an objection to either a or b,
Any objection on the merger of a and b as one joint motion?

1466
03:05:55,910 --> 03:05:55,910
hearing none, we have a motion by commissioner rodriguez,
Second by commissioner clay-flores the other way.

1467
03:06:01,870 --> 03:06:01,870
sorry. Commissioner clay-flores and second by commissioner rodriguez.

1468
03:06:07,470 --> 03:06:07,470
I stand corrected. Any further discussion? Commissioner moody?

1469
03:06:13,950 --> 03:06:13,950
well, dan, I just want to thank you for all your work on this because I know this has been
A long time coming and this is unique,

1470
03:06:20,470 --> 03:06:20,470
the work that's being done. But this is a huge value add for our community.

1471
03:06:25,470 --> 03:06:29,330
just at this facility likely 600 additional day jobs. But this is also a key that could potentially unlock hundreds more day jobs as we continue
To expand our military medicine presence here.

1472
03:06:37,850 --> 03:06:37,850
so I just want to make sure you understand how much we appreciate your work on that and
The rest of the team.

1473
03:06:48,130 --> 03:06:48,130
I hope we can get this other 5 million from the state of texas this fall.

1474
03:06:52,410 --> 03:06:54,690
but regardless, we'll go forward with the 25. If we can't. And you know, I had the opportunity to meet with assistant secretary,
Department of war for health affairs,

1475
03:07:03,730 --> 03:07:03,730
keith bass at the facility here a week ago and a week or two ago.

1476
03:07:09,850 --> 03:07:12,970
and he's, he's very much still supportive of the project. There's other leaders in the pentagon behind this project,
But we needed to show traction.

1477
03:07:17,570 --> 03:07:20,970
we needed to show we were making movement. And we are with this proffer letter. So I'm excited to support and we'll continue to try to move this project forward.

1478
03:07:25,860 --> 03:07:25,860
thanks. Thank you. Yes, commissioner. Thank you,
Commissioner, for your work.

1479
03:07:31,620 --> 03:07:31,620
and, dan, I just wanted to touch base on the owner's rep here.

1480
03:07:36,900 --> 03:07:36,900
were they originally procured by the army or were they procured by the city and the county
Or.

1481
03:07:43,220 --> 03:07:45,620
so that's just one of the ideas we have. Commissioner. We're not bringing forward the authority to execute any agreements today.

1482
03:07:49,780 --> 03:07:49,780
so we can, we can definitely make sure that you're comfortable with whatever that
Procurement process is.

1483
03:07:55,220 --> 03:07:55,220
we know that if we're going to select more than likely select someone to represent us on
This project day to day to make sure that it goes properly and to coordinate with those

1484
03:08:03,180 --> 03:08:03,180
federal requirements. And I think there's an opportunity for dha to,
To use that same firm,

1485
03:08:10,980 --> 03:08:10,980
but again, it's, it's totally up to them. My only inquiry was really related to whether
What was the experience working on a military facility?

1486
03:08:19,260 --> 03:08:19,260
I mean, obviously there has to be background and security checks just to make sure.

1487
03:08:24,360 --> 03:08:26,600
so I don't know if you know that information. Well, so when we bring an agreement back to you,
It'll have justification on why we selected them.

1488
03:08:31,720 --> 03:08:31,720
and again, we wouldn't recommend somebody that just,
You know, joe blow off the street.

1489
03:08:35,840 --> 03:08:35,840
they're going to have to have the credentials and the requirements and the engagement on
This project specifically to make sure that we deliver a good project. So,

1490
03:08:44,440 --> 03:08:44,440
dan, let me put on the record for those electeds or department heads looking at me going,
Judge,

1491
03:08:51,200 --> 03:08:51,200
I just wanted some positions today. And you know,
You're given $10 million away and it's not giving it away for for one.

1492
03:09:00,240 --> 03:09:00,240
and I want to make that point very clear. This is a capital project.

1493
03:09:04,360 --> 03:09:04,360
so it comes out of a specific budget that doesn't come out of general revenue.

1494
03:09:08,960 --> 03:09:08,960
correct miss tina? Yes. And so understand that we're not making a binary decision today
Going,

1495
03:09:15,880 --> 03:09:15,880
oh well, buildings over people or employees or services.

1496
03:09:20,560 --> 03:09:20,560
this is a specific bucket that has been budgeted,
What, two, two budget years ago?

1497
03:09:26,090 --> 03:09:26,090
and we've been sitting on this and we've been working with the city of san antonio.

1498
03:09:30,490 --> 03:09:30,490
god bless them. But at the same time, we have not been able to move.

1499
03:09:35,090 --> 03:09:35,090
and I want to express my sincere appreciation to commissioner moody because he stayed on
Top of this.

1500
03:09:41,170 --> 03:09:41,170
we've had discussions with greater sac, we've had greater discussions with the city.

1501
03:09:46,450 --> 03:09:46,450
and. And what I want to put on record is we need to move it,
And I want to move it as quickly as we can,

1502
03:09:52,610 --> 03:09:52,610
because this is another game changer for our community.

1503
03:09:57,410 --> 03:09:57,410
and commissioner moody, let's make it real clear,
This is not moving the headquarters because I think that was a misunderstanding.

1504
03:10:04,690 --> 03:10:04,690
but this is a consolidation of services. And as I understand it,
In your world of military talk,

1505
03:10:12,370 --> 03:10:12,370
this is basically bringing some missions or some positions to this,
And they'll be medical compositions,

1506
03:10:19,390 --> 03:10:22,630
and presumably they will be high paying positions. And so what we lost in the consolidation of army north,
Army, south I think we're regaining a significant amount of

1507
03:10:32,950 --> 03:10:32,950
investment by and we have collaboration with the city and the state of texas.

1508
03:10:38,510 --> 03:10:38,510
so this is a win win for our community. Much like when we opened the meeting with the
Expansion of toyota,

1509
03:10:45,910 --> 03:10:49,870
I see this as an expansion and a general economic generator. Is that a correct statement, mr. Curry? Wholly accurate.

1510
03:10:53,110 --> 03:10:53,110
yes, sir. Commissioner moody, is there anything you want to add because you've been really
Involved in this and I appreciate your efforts there.

1511
03:11:00,830 --> 03:11:00,830
no, I mean, I think you you covered it. This is a great opportunity,
A great economic development opportunity.

1512
03:11:08,390 --> 03:11:08,390
we think about supporting joint base san antonio,
But it is bringing 600 high paying jobs here and the potential for more.

1513
03:11:16,830 --> 03:11:19,930
right. So I don't think 600 is the end of it. But we'll continue to advocate, I think san antonio and the military medicine we have here
Is a differentiator for our community.

1514
03:11:27,810 --> 03:11:27,810
so, mr. Curry, you have the end of the year to get things done or else figure it out.

1515
03:11:32,730 --> 03:11:35,690
we're going to we're going to run as fast as we can,
Judge. You got it. All right. There's a motion on the floor. All those in favor of the motion expressed by
Saying I,

1516
03:11:39,730 --> 03:11:39,730
I. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion unanimously carries.

1517
03:11:44,370 --> 03:11:47,890
all right. We're getting to it. 60 discussion. Appropriate action related to the receipt of a notification of appointment of a court
Coordinator.

1518
03:11:52,850 --> 03:11:52,850
demand for release of funds by judges of the two 25th to 85th district courts,
As well as consideration of the potential staffing and resource needs of the

1519
03:12:02,650 --> 03:12:02,650
remaining 12 civil district court judges. Review of operational staffing resources,
Consideration by the budget department and make proposed recommendations to

1520
03:12:12,130 --> 03:12:16,060
commissioners court. I'm going to allow judge neta,
If you would, mr. Guevara judge, you have the floor. And although we have time limits,
I probably let you go.

1521
03:12:26,820 --> 03:12:30,460
but don't we got other business. Okay. Judge,
I understand. Got it. All right. I don't I don't intend to be here very long.

1522
03:12:33,460 --> 03:12:33,460
keep it on the clock. But let the judge finish her thought or statement.

1523
03:12:37,540 --> 03:12:37,540
all right. Thank you for your hospitality. Honorable commissioners.

1524
03:12:41,700 --> 03:12:45,660
judge sakai, it's a pleasure to be here before you. I stand here today to respectfully request the funding necessary to support a dedicated
Court coordinator for my court.

1525
03:12:54,700 --> 03:12:54,700
the two 85th district court. I know judge sakai introduced me.

1526
03:13:00,180 --> 03:13:00,180
I am judge nadine ethell of the two 85th district court.

1527
03:13:04,940 --> 03:13:04,940
I believe in the principle honorable commissioners of one case,
One judge.

1528
03:13:11,220 --> 03:13:14,280
and pursuant to the supreme court's directives. I am now in full compliance. In fact, I have been for the last four months now.

1529
03:13:22,360 --> 03:13:22,360
I left and decided to operate my individual docket as of march 2nd of this year,
And I did so before the supreme court's

1530
03:13:32,120 --> 03:13:32,120
directives became effective on july 1st, because I knew that I could effectively manage my
Own docket because I had

1531
03:13:41,120 --> 03:13:41,120
complete confidence in my team in what we could accomplish together.

1532
03:13:47,480 --> 03:13:47,480
since march 2nd, I have been operating without a coordinator.

1533
03:13:52,360 --> 03:13:52,360
this is very difficult because my clerk is doing the job of a court coordinator on top of
Her duties as a district clerk.

1534
03:14:02,320 --> 03:14:02,320
those don't go away. And so she has been working overtime in the evenings and on the
Weekends.

1535
03:14:07,920 --> 03:14:11,360
and she does this out of loyalty to my court. It is high time. Honorable commissioners that she be compensated.

1536
03:14:16,730 --> 03:14:16,730
the government code gives me the authority to appoint a court coordinator.

1537
03:14:22,530 --> 03:14:25,250
and I have made my clerk the court coordinator. I am happy to say that that is who I have appointed.

1538
03:14:28,570 --> 03:14:28,570
she has earned it. And when I say that she has earned it,
I will tell you that I did review the clearance rates for the courts

1539
03:14:38,450 --> 03:14:38,450
of the civil district courts here in bexar county,
And I am proud to say that last I checked,

1540
03:14:44,250 --> 03:14:44,250
we ranked number one, surpassing all of the other civil district courts,
And that is without a court coordinator.

1541
03:14:53,130 --> 03:14:53,130
now, I believe that this clearly demonstrates that an individual docket can be more than
Successful.

1542
03:15:01,250 --> 03:15:01,250
we surpass the other courts. I ask you to consider what you would do if all of a sudden
You

1543
03:15:11,030 --> 03:15:11,030
lost your chiefs of staff, if you lost your executive assistants in all of the other
People that work for you.

1544
03:15:18,190 --> 03:15:18,190
because in one person, my clerk who I want and have appointed as coordinator,
She's all of those things rolled into one.

1545
03:15:29,030 --> 03:15:29,030
and I suspect that if you lost even just one of those essential personnel that you have
And you should have that,

1546
03:15:37,310 --> 03:15:37,310
that would be rectified immediately, if not sooner.

1547
03:15:42,350 --> 03:15:42,350
all I'm asking is that I receive the essential personnel that the court deserves,
And not be treated any differently than any of the individual courts here in bexar county.

1548
03:15:53,990 --> 03:15:53,990
I ask that the county compensate my clerk and that she go through the hiring process as
Necessary.

1549
03:16:02,950 --> 03:16:06,150
I believe that she's qualified. She's earned it. Like I said, she would meet the qualifications and to immediately vote to grant this
Court.

1550
03:16:13,930 --> 03:16:13,930
the two 85th. An individual dedicated court coordinator.

1551
03:16:19,210 --> 03:16:19,210
I thank, by the way, the deputy commissioner,
Thomas guevara, and his team for coming to my court.

1552
03:16:28,570 --> 03:16:28,570
they had an opportunity to review it and to observe,
And I appreciate all of their hard work.

1553
03:16:35,930 --> 03:16:35,930
so, commissioners, thank you so much. I ask that you appoint the coordinator.

1554
03:16:41,970 --> 03:16:41,970
thank you. Thank you. I want to correct he's a deputy county manager,
Not a commissioner.

1555
03:16:47,570 --> 03:16:51,050
I did, I did, I give him a raise or. Yes you did. I just wanted to correct the record. Thank you.

1556
03:16:54,090 --> 03:16:54,090
thank you so much. All right. Thomas, give us a report on behalf of the manager's office.

1557
03:17:02,090 --> 03:17:02,090
judge commissioners thomas guevara, office of the county manager.

1558
03:17:06,860 --> 03:17:06,860
again, this is this particular item is based on a request that we've received from the two
25th and two 85th civil district courts requesting an additional two court

1559
03:17:16,340 --> 03:17:16,340
coordinators following their withdrawal from the presiding court system,
Effective march 1st,

1560
03:17:21,700 --> 03:17:21,700
2026. As a. As a result, both those courts will independently manage their dockets,
Including case scheduling,

1561
03:17:28,700 --> 03:17:28,700
hearings and trial settings between june 12th and as early as this morning,
The budget office of bexar county information technology staff and myself.

1562
03:17:38,180 --> 03:17:38,180
we conducted an operational review of both these requests of this request.

1563
03:17:42,540 --> 03:17:42,540
I would like to thank both judge and judge nieto for their cooperation and time to meet
With the team and answer our questions.

1564
03:17:49,700 --> 03:17:49,700
as judge nieto mentioned earlier, she did invite us to observe her docket as she ran it.

1565
03:17:56,420 --> 03:17:59,860
so that was very helpful in our in our review. I would also like to thank civil district administration as well,
Judge jimenez and the team there for taking time to answer some of our questions,

1566
03:18:07,600 --> 03:18:07,600
as well as the district clerk office. Again,
Commissioners, we focus on the process staffing technology to include existing and

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03:18:16,800 --> 03:18:16,800
projected workloads, workflows, staffing responsibilities,
And resource utilization.

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03:18:22,880 --> 03:18:22,880
what we did not do is evaluate the judicial decision,
Their judicial decision making, their discretion or nor did we review their case

1569
03:18:32,480 --> 03:18:32,480
outcomes. So just again, a little background,
The civil district courts currently operate under a rotation system in which judges

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03:18:41,200 --> 03:18:45,000
alternate between the presiding and monitoring courts. They currently have two court coordinators overseeing that rotation.

1571
03:18:49,520 --> 03:18:49,520
the presiding court coordinator oversees the presiding docket,
While the civil jury assignments coordinator maintains the master docket for all jury

1572
03:18:56,840 --> 03:18:56,840
cases within the system. As of may of 2026, the presiding court coordinator manages an
Active caseload of approximately

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03:19:05,490 --> 03:19:05,490
67,000 cases, with about 4700 cases per court across those 14 civil district courts,
Reflecting a setting of 100

1574
03:19:15,290 --> 03:19:15,290
to 200 cases each day. Additionally, the civil trial settings coordinator handles around
800 settings,

1575
03:19:24,490 --> 03:19:27,290
trial settings, motions and dockets per month. And this is what we evaluated. The information we use to evaluate.

1576
03:19:31,770 --> 03:19:31,770
we obtained this information from the office of court administration.

1577
03:19:37,890 --> 03:19:37,890
so with the courts electing to opt out of the presiding system and now managing their own
Dockets independently,

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03:19:44,370 --> 03:19:44,370
each court will receive approximately 4700 active cases and will continue to receive new
Case filings as similar to the other civil district courts within the presiding system.

1579
03:19:55,010 --> 03:19:55,010
the decision results in the transfer of approximately 9400 active cases from the
Centralized presiding court system to these two courts.

1580
03:20:05,190 --> 03:20:07,790
meanwhile, the remaining 12 district courts will. Civil district courts will continue to function under the presiding system.

1581
03:20:14,390 --> 03:20:14,390
so in conclusion, after a thorough comparison of the current workload of the civil
District court coordinators and the proposed individual court coordinator position,

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03:20:23,950 --> 03:20:23,950
it indicates insufficient workload to justify creating an additional coordinator role for
Each.

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03:20:30,830 --> 03:20:30,830
so the data indicates that the workload in these cases is insufficient to justify existing
And relative to the existing resources in the civil district courts.

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03:20:40,990 --> 03:20:40,990
so staff will not be recommending to commissioners the additional court coordinators.

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03:20:46,190 --> 03:20:46,190
I'm available for any additional questions court may have.

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03:20:50,910 --> 03:20:50,910
commissioner rodriguez. Thank you judge. Thomas,
Let me ask a couple questions related to the the workflow numbers.

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03:20:59,830 --> 03:20:59,830
I know you said that they just reflected case numbers.

1588
03:21:04,570 --> 03:21:04,570
not necessarily dispositions, outcomes. Did any of the evaluation take

1589
03:21:14,490 --> 03:21:14,490
into account, I guess, the additional administrative functions that the courts are going
To be asked or have been asked to take on?

1590
03:21:23,770 --> 03:21:23,770
I think there's, there's some new july 1st reporting numbers.

1591
03:21:28,730 --> 03:21:28,730
did you take that into account in any of your evaluations at all for this particular
Request?

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03:21:35,250 --> 03:21:35,250
commissioner. No, that part we were evaluating the court coordinator job description and,
And workflow in that area,

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03:21:44,210 --> 03:21:44,210
what we have done and we just to be clear, we do have a separate request from the civil
District court administration for additional

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03:21:54,650 --> 03:21:58,090
staffing resources that does touch on that aspect. We aspect. We are still working with civil district court administration. Again,
I want to thank judge jimenez, ryan anderson, for taking time to meet with us,

1595
03:22:05,420 --> 03:22:05,420
to walk us through their resource requests to better understand there's,
Again, new requirements,

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03:22:11,860 --> 03:22:11,860
both from the the amendments from the texas supreme court,
As well as existing requirements from state from the state legislature.

1597
03:22:21,380 --> 03:22:21,380
so we're evaluating that at the moment, and we're looking to bring back a separate
Recommendation on that,

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03:22:28,820 --> 03:22:28,820
on that sense. So but for to focus on the two 25th and the two 85th,
We're looking at active caseload per court coordinator.

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03:22:36,180 --> 03:22:36,180
okay. Got it. Okay. Well, I don't want to belabor this.

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03:22:40,300 --> 03:22:40,300
I think that in, in the spirit of compromise and trying to get to a place maybe where we
Can,

1601
03:22:47,940 --> 03:22:47,940
we can all live with I'm going to make a motion judge to approve one court coordinator
Position to serve jointly the two 25th and the

1602
03:22:57,840 --> 03:22:57,840
two 85th judicial district court, with total compensation to include salary and benefits
Not to exceed $81,986.

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03:23:06,640 --> 03:23:06,640
the position shall be shared equally between the two courts and shall be subject to review
By the commissioners court during the subsequent budget cycle to evaluate its operational

1604
03:23:15,360 --> 03:23:15,360
efficiency, effectiveness and workload. I'll second.

1605
03:23:19,560 --> 03:23:19,560
there's a motion by commissioner rodriguez, second by commissioner clay-flores. Any
Further comments or questions?

1606
03:23:28,480 --> 03:23:28,480
so the budget department manager's office is recommending you made a

1607
03:23:38,480 --> 03:23:41,520
recommendation today? Yes, sir. And I apologize. I stepped out to personal business. Yes. But your recommendation was what?

1608
03:23:49,080 --> 03:23:49,080
no additional resources. No additional resources based on the active caseload currently
Being handled in regard to the request for a court coordinator

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03:23:58,980 --> 03:24:02,300
each for the two 25th and the two 85th. Yes,
Sir. You've indicated, and commissioner rodriguez has highlighted,
That there will be additional responsibilities imposed on all judges,

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03:24:11,460 --> 03:24:11,460
correct? Correct. And for the record, we have,
As I last remember, I don't think it's changed.

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03:24:17,820 --> 03:24:17,820
14 district court judges. Correct? Yes, sir. The current system and I believe this is a
Discussion in.

1612
03:24:25,780 --> 03:24:25,780
executive that perhaps the public may not. And I know the public does not understand the
Legal system,

1613
03:24:34,860 --> 03:24:34,860
but there appears to be maybe a misunderstanding that the presiding system has been done
Away with.

1614
03:24:40,820 --> 03:24:43,860
and that is not a true statement. Correct? That is correct. We actually have a presiding system. Yes, sir.

1615
03:24:47,140 --> 03:24:47,140
and it still runs the same way. Yes, sir. And as I understand it,
They have what two court coordinator type positions that assist.

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03:24:56,950 --> 03:24:56,950
12. Yes, sir. Okay. Understanding that the additional requirements may require some
Reporting requirements,

1617
03:25:06,430 --> 03:25:06,430
have you all had an analysis of whether it should be a court coordinator,
Or does it need to be somebody that would help do the tracking for that data

1618
03:25:16,430 --> 03:25:19,590
that's required of them by the texas supreme court? Understanding that the texas supreme court has done this by an administrative rule,
By the court,

1619
03:25:26,110 --> 03:25:26,110
and obviously, the texas supreme court oversees the entire state court system,
Being the district courts and county courts at law.

1620
03:25:34,390 --> 03:25:34,390
correct? Correct. Our initial findings would also recommend no additional court
Coordinators.

1621
03:25:39,990 --> 03:25:39,990
however, we do recognize, based on the needs for.

1622
03:25:45,510 --> 03:25:45,510
compliance reporting, other data requirements that we would continue to work with them to
Identify the appropriate resource resources necessary

1623
03:25:55,370 --> 03:25:59,170
to be in compliance so they could. The courts. I'm talking about the entire 14 judges will need additional resources in light of the new
Rules.

1624
03:26:06,730 --> 03:26:10,090
although it's not. It's your recommendation not be a court coordinator. So what would be an alternative? We are looking at the moment they're titled currently in
Our systems data tracking specialists.

1625
03:26:19,250 --> 03:26:19,250
we would look at something in that function role based on the job descriptions that could
Meet the requirements needed by the judiciary to be in

1626
03:26:29,250 --> 03:26:29,250
compliance, and for those report to handle those additional reports.

1627
03:26:34,170 --> 03:26:34,170
I see. So am I to understand this is a assessment y'all have made in real time at this
Time,

1628
03:26:42,970 --> 03:26:42,970
but that in light of some of the questions or comments that there'll be further assessment
And further discussions with the entire civil section.

1629
03:26:53,380 --> 03:26:55,980
that is fair. Yes. District courts. That's a fair statement. Yes, sir. But understanding. We have 12 judges still remaining and doing the same thing
That 14 judges do.

1630
03:27:04,300 --> 03:27:04,300
but we have two judges that now, in simple layman's terms,
Run their own docket.

1631
03:27:10,340 --> 03:27:10,340
correct. And they do not assist or help the presiding system.

1632
03:27:15,180 --> 03:27:15,180
or is that a thing that we need to get clarification at the next conversation?

1633
03:27:23,780 --> 03:27:23,780
do you understand what I'm saying? Yes, sir. My understanding is they would be operating
Separate from the presiding system unless I'm told otherwise.

1634
03:27:31,300 --> 03:27:31,300
that's my understanding. I'm just I'm talking to the judges and to the public.

1635
03:27:37,580 --> 03:27:37,580
we need to understand what the system is, because the existing system has a presiding
System built in that is always

1636
03:27:47,680 --> 03:27:47,680
performed. That's children's court, correct? We have child support courts.

1637
03:27:52,040 --> 03:27:52,040
it's a presiding system. We have many individual,
I think, and we run individual dockets.

1638
03:27:59,160 --> 03:27:59,160
now, I understand that two judges have pulled all their cases out,
But I want to know have they have those decisions.

1639
03:28:07,640 --> 03:28:07,640
and this is an instruction to you have those decisions impacted children's court.

1640
03:28:13,800 --> 03:28:17,560
child support court what the family violence. There's all these separate dockets. So this is a very complex,
Complicated process that we need to understand because

1641
03:28:27,400 --> 03:28:27,400
the civil district court system is not identical to the criminal district court system
Where they do have coordinators,

1642
03:28:34,520 --> 03:28:34,520
correct? Correct, correct. And as I understand it,
For 26 years, the criminal courts run and are and have to have support staff to

1643
03:28:44,560 --> 03:28:44,560
run their dockets. Correct. Under the old presiding system of 14 judges.

1644
03:28:50,900 --> 03:28:50,900
they were able to run a docket, their entire docket.

1645
03:28:55,540 --> 03:28:55,540
well, apparently right now with two, I would assume that was over a period of time.

1646
03:29:00,540 --> 03:29:00,540
right. So we need to keep this apples to apples,
Apples to oranges.

1647
03:29:05,700 --> 03:29:05,700
and we need further assessment. Is that your commitment to the judges here.

1648
03:29:11,060 --> 03:29:14,220
we're going to continue to talk. That is my commitment. Got it. So I believe there's a motion and a second.

1649
03:29:19,860 --> 03:29:19,860
is there any further discussion? Comment. If not,
I'll call for a vote.

1650
03:29:24,140 --> 03:29:24,140
and commissioner rodriguez, that was one court coordinator for the two district courts.

1651
03:29:30,780 --> 03:29:30,780
285225 is that correct? With the set salary? Yes.

1652
03:29:35,620 --> 03:29:35,620
and that's it. And understanding. We have other requests coming.

1653
03:29:40,860 --> 03:29:43,700
all right. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries.

1654
03:29:49,150 --> 03:29:49,150
y'all have a good day, judges. All right. I think we're getting to here.

1655
03:29:58,510 --> 03:29:58,510
60 one discussion. Appropriate action regarding settlement offer in the matter of gonzales
Versus bexar county.

1656
03:30:03,870 --> 03:30:07,150
mr. Robinson, is there a recommendation? Thank you. Judge. During executive. The court considered a settlement offer in the matter of julio
Gonzalez versus bexar county,

1657
03:30:12,310 --> 03:30:12,310
texas, in the amount of $25,000. Motion. Motion.

1658
03:30:17,750 --> 03:30:20,150
motion. Second. Motion by. Commissioner. Second. By commissioner clay-flores. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor
Signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstention? Motion carries 62.

1659
03:30:28,030 --> 03:30:31,310
discuss appropriate action pending litigation or settlement agreement. In the matter of ledesma guerrero versus bexar county.

1660
03:30:33,950 --> 03:30:33,950
is there a motion for mr. Robinson? What is the action?

1661
03:30:38,750 --> 03:30:38,750
thank you. Judge. During executive. The court considered another settlement offer in the
Matter of amanda ledesma and vincent guerrero versus bexar county,

1662
03:30:47,450 --> 03:30:47,450
texas, in the amount of $35,000. So moved. Second.

1663
03:30:51,650 --> 03:30:51,650
motion by commissioner rodriguez. Second by commissioner clay-flores. Any further
Discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye.

1664
03:30:58,610 --> 03:31:01,290
any opposed? Any abstention? Motion carried. Thank you. We cleared the dock. The agenda for today. I just we've been kind of going a little fast
Here at the end.

1665
03:31:07,130 --> 03:31:09,930
all right. Is there a motion to adjourn? Motion to adjourn. Motion by commissioner clay-flores. Second by commissioner rodriguez. Commissioner
Clay-flores, I'd like to adjourn in memory of cresencio castillo.

1666
03:31:18,170 --> 03:31:18,170
abigail lynne espinosa and fernando espinosa and laura marie espinosa,
Who just graduated from harlandale

1667
03:31:28,490 --> 03:31:28,490
a couple of months ago. Also in memory of montserrat martinez maldonado and bruce duane
Anderson of bon ami,

1668
03:31:36,290 --> 03:31:36,290
who worked at the somerset senior senior center.

1669
03:31:40,580 --> 03:31:40,580
commissioner. Moode. Commissioner. Calvert. I would like to move an adjournment for julie
Beth flatt.

1670
03:31:47,980 --> 03:31:47,980
parker. She I knew her, she is the mother of judge laura parker and son in law,
Doctor fred reagan.

1671
03:31:56,500 --> 03:31:56,500
granddaughter catherine raymond, spouse two I believe it was george parker,
An attorney.

1672
03:32:03,740 --> 03:32:03,740
and also, I don't know if we did this before raymond rogelio tejeda,
Who was part of the tejeda family and related to robert tejeda,

1673
03:32:12,260 --> 03:32:12,260
frank tejeda and was a very close friend of judge edmundo zaragoza.

1674
03:32:17,300 --> 03:32:17,300
his granddaughter, marissa cordova, continues to work here in bexar county as the court
Clerk in probate court one.

1675
03:32:24,980 --> 03:32:24,980
so I wish that to the family my sincere condolences on their loss.

1676
03:32:30,540 --> 03:32:33,260
all those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstention? Motion carries.

1677
03:32:36,180 --> 03:32:36,180
meeting adjourned. Thank you very much.