1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:08,840 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,840 for which it stands, one nation under God, 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,960 indivisible, with liberty 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,960 and justice for all. 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,680 » City Council, City 6 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:29,480 Tuesday, May the 12th, 2016, 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,640 All members Rod. 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,360 » Yeah. >> Butch. 9 00:00:32,279 --> 00:00:33,520 » Here. >> Donna. 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,760 » Here. >> Let the record show that all members are 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,760 Quorum's present to conduct business. Pursuant to statute, this meeting is 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,720 being recorded Participation in the meeting was consent recorded and 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:48,120 included cast of the recorded meeting on 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,120 YouTube channel. 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,600 All right. Review and approval of previous month's 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,320 minutes from April the 13th. I'll make a motion to approve. 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,440 » Motion by Second >> I. 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,440 » Johnny. >> Yep. 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,440 » All right. Any discussion? Seeing none, those in favor signify by 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,160 saying aye. >> Aye. 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,160 » Those opposed, no. 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:14,560 » Uh the fund and appropriation reports are in your packet. The bank wrecks are 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,640 on the table. Um 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:24,480 We have started getting money again from Trex, which that's the 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:29,600 tax refund any unpaid utilities, court cost, or anything out of general. 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:34,360 So far in utilities, we collected $6,000. 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:38,600 Uh $53. 46 cents. Court's been $2,300 and $95 out of general. 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:45,120 So, so that's getting some money back from unpaid bills for the city, so 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:49,680 it's good to do. Um Other than that, we're just kind of 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,640 rolling through the months until next month when we get settlement to see 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,560 where we're going to be at on that. Other than that, everything's looking 32 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,880 about where it's typically at. 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:05,080 Uh I Um there is an ordinance in your 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:12,200 packet. It's the This is to clear up some appropriations 35 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:16,120 and an additional for the CC money 36 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:19,840 one spot to get that paid. The original number Thomas had was for 37 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:24,680 about $200,000, but when he did budget, we only got 195, 38 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,840 so we need an additional 5,000 for the short 39 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:32,320 And then some from the MBH restricted 40 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:36,040 construction over to MBH restricted CC and G 41 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:41,480 uh $2,375. And then there's $1,877. 42 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:45,080 We're going to split that between the at a meeting today. 43 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:51,200 I'll get that squared away with the match totals for the CC and G. So, when 44 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,200 that comes in pay that. 45 00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:56,880 » is to clean that up so we can get our match straight before Armstrong 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,480 starts to send us You need an 47 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:05,320 » Yep. >> I'll make motion to approve ordinance 48 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,320 5-2-2026. 49 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,640 » I'll second. >> Motion by Blair, second by all in favor 50 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,720 of the discussion. All in favor, say aye. Seconded by 51 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,560 Senator Knight. Those opposed, say no. 52 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:19,080 The sign is now. >> Okay, please, so I can get that cleared 53 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,080 away tomorrow. 54 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,560 » Mayor? >> Mhm. 55 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,480 » While we have a dead moment, uh I think some of the uh 56 00:03:28,519 --> 00:03:35,320 others may not be the uh the 57 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:39,959 the board approached the property trust to help getting land out 58 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,600 and uh I just the voting 59 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:48,040 Trout wants to go help him with the park. 60 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:51,880 And it'll be a nice donation. >> Yeah, so I'll I'll kind of 61 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,560 fill in a little bit of blanks there for what Wally's talking about. So, 62 00:03:54,280 --> 00:04:00,840 after the board and I have been discussing 63 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,840 redoing what we call Kiddieland 64 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:12,920 and this fenced-in area right here. A lot of the equipment is dated. Uh this 65 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:17,239 big piece is actually about 30 30 35 years old. I actually played on it when 66 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:21,347 Um so um park board 67 00:04:19,239 --> 00:04:23,400 » He was 14. >> [laughter] 68 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,000 » Uh no, it's actually my son's age as a matter of fact, but 69 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,898 » No, man. I got pictures of going down the slide 2 years ago. 70 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,760 » Yeah. >> [laughter] 71 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:35,160 » So um yes, it's it's coming out here to the city hall. 72 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:39,120 So uh Donnie and I were discussing the board about about 73 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:41,919 redoing the Kiddieland area. Um 74 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:46,200 so it's all about doing it and with money that we already have in our books, 75 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:49,400 there are two I'm going to buy two new I'm going to call them big pieces. 76 00:04:47,919 --> 00:04:54,240 They're probably somewhat comparable in size to this. Uh 77 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:57,760 our guys uh in order to save a a great big sum of money are going to rearrange 78 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,960 this stuff here. Put in those two new pieces 79 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:04,360 uh cuz they have to be assembled and those companies charge about $6100 to 80 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,200 assemble them, so just save the save some money on that. 81 00:05:05,919 --> 00:05:11,080 We're going to do that and then some of these loose things we may redistribute 82 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:12,840 over here, so we're going to clean that up 83 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:15,280 uh pretty well. 84 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:19,280 So uh the it's basically about 50/50 split. 85 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:22,120 The pieces were about 10,000 apiece, 10 12,000 apiece. 86 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,160 So >> [cough] 87 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:29,200 » it'll be a good deal. Probably later this year once we order 88 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,800 the pieces and get them here and we get the date set and all that stuff, so 89 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:36,600 Wally, I do appreciate uh appreciate that and also while you're kind of on 90 00:05:34,919 --> 00:05:38,520 topic uh >> More? 91 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,560 » Well, it's something you guys already did but it's started. So, if you if you 92 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,200 go out to the north side the 93 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,480 basketball court resurfacing is underway. 94 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Uh Trollbonds paid for the electrical work that will be done shortly 95 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,760 thereafter. Mike Sinclair is doing that really the electrical line. 96 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:05,360 The resurfacing is being paid from 97 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:09,080 two different places. We are paying for half of it and Knox County, Indiana 98 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:12,640 Economic Development Corporation is paying for 10,000 of it. I got I did 99 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,760 that a couple meetings ago. So, we're going to pay it and then they'll 100 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:19,240 reimburse us 10,000. So, um 101 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,400 Once the asphalt's finished, then they got to have some nice information. 102 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,480 So, I talked to Dr. Kirkwood the other day, 103 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,720 who some of you may recall back in the '90s. 104 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,320 I started that effort to raise the money. 105 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,080 years old 106 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:46,680 Yeah, Trialbank is going to highlight the Bob Fell Christian 107 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,280 That's uh It'll be good. Good stuff. 108 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,400 Uh all the money I got I wanted to talk 109 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:58,280 about that. Kind of mention to you um Going back to Mayor Blake here's the 110 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,400 transition. Uh he had reached a verbal agreement 111 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:06,800 with Bicknell Manor, Lincoln Drive, on trash they were paying the city about 112 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:10,800 $100 a month to cover trash. I was that goes back 12 years. 113 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,200 Um they just kind of continued to pay that. When stickers went up, I 114 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,040 approached Carol, the administrator there. 115 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,600 So, I said, you know, if I need to increase on this, so what I had Donnie 116 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:24,040 do over the period of April, they counted 117 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:28,200 how many bags they pick up in a day at two collection points. 118 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:32,160 They took a count. We averaged that with 119 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,520 63 bags on the average multiplied by $9.50. 120 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,960 They did not hesitate. 121 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,400 Who who's the administrator down there? Donnie Anderson. 122 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:56,360 » He'd been there I think she told me 12 years. 123 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:00,080 And I'm like, that's uh >> I don't know so they didn't pass it on. 124 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,920 » Questions? >> On finance 125 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:14,320 » Uh next we have Ms. Lauren Am I saying that right? 126 00:08:12,919 --> 00:08:18,000 Lauren, okay. I was trying to make it French. 127 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:22,440 So uh if you'll go ahead and Uh 128 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,840 So she has uh requested from us a lot that we bought on the commissioner's 129 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:29,960 sale that's next to her newly purchased house. I will go to the big board 130 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:36,000 show you where that is and then I'll let her uh tell the story. 131 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:38,159 » Um I own lot 69 and 70 and my house is sitting 132 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:40,719 in the middle of the two properties. It would make a nice addition. 133 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:52,600 » So this is this is on May Boulevard. This house here is a newly built one 134 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:57,640 that you guys bought. Uh this lot um lot commissioner's sale this is 135 00:08:54,480 --> 00:09:02,680 either no place or right at 500 Um they've shown interest in it. 136 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,720 They want to make their yard bigger. I I bought it maybe. 137 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:10,160 Uh nobody nobody else is beating on my door for it. Uh 138 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:15,120 cost from the commissioner's sale and the 139 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:19,400 Everything associated with 1,703 65. 140 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,120 That's what we got in it. >> I'll make a motion to 141 00:09:20,839 --> 00:09:26,080 approve that. >> Motion by Roger, second by Johnny. Any 142 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,680 further discussion? Seeing none, let's hear the staff saying aye. 143 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,200 » Aye. >> Those no? 144 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,200 I'll be in time. 145 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:37,000 » I didn't hurt at all. >> I thought it'd be less than 3%. 146 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,480 All right. Uh the 147 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,200 » Ashley, you're next. 148 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:52,640 So, Ashley has approached me about the property 149 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:55,800 for herself. One of these three lots here on the 150 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,200 street. Do you know which one you prefer? 151 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:02,920 » The middle one. >> The middle one. Okay. 152 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,400 So, I got together with her what our process is, which is why she's here 153 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,840 today. Uh getting 154 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,920 what she has to give all of us to finance the stuff. So, go ahead. 155 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,360 » There I don't see there's there's two 156 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,400 different I do. 157 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:23,280 » I think you missed that in the packet. >> Oh, sorry. 158 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,280 » You got it. A four-bedroom. 159 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,880 And I'm going to have the kids living in it. 160 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:32,000 » Thomas, can you open >> I do. Yes. 161 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,600 » There's two layouts here. There's one for a three-bedroom and one for a 162 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:38,520 four-bedroom. Um 163 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:42,480 The only difference is in where the um front door is. So, if the front door 164 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:46,880 needs to face the road, it'll be a three-bedroom. If it's not required to 165 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:51,720 face the road, it'll be a four-bedroom. Um there's a copy of the lot list. It's 166 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:56,600 at King and Miller. It's the middle lot, the one that I highlighted. 167 00:10:53,880 --> 00:11:01,400 Um on there you will see the conditional approval from the Home Loan Place. 168 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:06,440 Um showing that I am approved for the loan 169 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:12,200 for either one of the houses. Um 170 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:17,680 and now that it's done, it's all set. >> I feel like I'm 171 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:20,920 Somebody help me. I know I dealt with a similar outfit on one we did 172 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,640 I'm trying to figure out how to >> They've done numerous homes here. 173 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:28,440 » They're probably >> It's [music] Klein Homes in Evansville. 174 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,560 » You talked to Nicole about the financing yet? 175 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,680 » Um I'm I wanted to make sure I get the land before 176 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:38,000 I move forward with that cuz if I can't get the land 177 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,000 I can't go 178 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:48,240 » So you're not taking the corner off? >> No, 179 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,240 it's the one in the middle. 180 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,080 » You could get another one. >> Well, 181 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,760 if at some point I haven't sold it I might 182 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,360 try to get another one. So I have a dog that likes to run 183 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,400 and eventually if if you know 184 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,360 they haven't sold them every time I can try to get another one. 185 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:18,280 » They're they're four empty lots Thomas. 186 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,920 » So it would be the lot street. 187 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,240 » Uh yeah, this is highlight here so this 188 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,520 this is only one. Joining me. 189 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,120 Yeah, we we built those those three pieces right there. 190 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:35,400 What was it? Those were block elimination. 191 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:38,520 We've had those for probably eight years. Number 27 since we've had those 192 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:43,280 for nine years. They were three lot houses there. 193 00:12:40,839 --> 00:12:45,920 Some we got commission. Uh we sell those 194 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,640 These would be the price on these because these were not commission so 195 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:56,600 these were This would be 2500. 196 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:02,400 » Based on what you guys have done in the past. 197 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,400 » I'll make a motion to sell. 198 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:09,080 » That is lot number 47 in East Side addition. I've got a 199 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,920 motion by Robert. By Johnny first. 200 00:13:10,839 --> 00:13:14,839 Seeing none. Saying aye. 201 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:15,839 Going down. Thank you. 202 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:17,520 Thank you. >> Thank you. 203 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,640 » Be in touch with me. I need to be talking about a couple other deals. 204 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:24,000 Make probably make my life communicate 205 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:28,000 » That's perfect. >> Thank you. 206 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,000 » Don't worry. That makes sense. 207 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:34,880 » Yeah, cuz we're going to >> I'm not going to lie. 208 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,880 » I had to call you. 209 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,800 » So, we got to wrestle with it. >> Yeah, yeah. 210 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,880 » Yeah, I did. >> Uh 211 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,400 next uh uh Put them chairs up. 212 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:53,040 Here for discussion. Uh first up, a rezoning change for 4607 213 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Pennsylvania Street. Uh which is uh you know, the head start. 214 00:13:55,560 --> 00:14:00,920 Uh recent Something like that. 215 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,920 I agree with them for that reason. 216 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:06,320 Well, you guys know the way that title is. 217 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,320 I don't know if it'll be a long way. 218 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:10,240 I didn't think that. 219 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:17,160 I got to go push it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in the Democratic 220 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:19,720 We're going to have to take I know both myself and the commission 221 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:23,354 » Oh, it. >> important stuff. 222 00:14:21,334 --> 00:14:23,354 » [laughter] 223 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:30,560 » So, uh This is uh first reading for just as a 224 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:34,200 rehash of the rules. So, on any rezoning request, it starts here at the first 225 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,120 reading. You guys refer to the comprehensive plan. The plan here is 226 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,440 that and then they make a positive and 227 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:44,960 negative recommendation. back here uh for a public hearing. Uh notice will 228 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:48,560 be mailed. Rich can interview various neighbors and neighbors can come up or 229 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:52,120 anybody have an opinion. Uh and you guys can sit here. 230 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,280 and tell them your story. Yes. 231 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,960 So, what do you need out of us today? Just a 232 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:03,240 motion to approve the I'll make that. 233 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:08,080 Question. So, we're sending it you know, to the 234 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:11,600 No, this is just I'll second that. Motion second. Any discussion? Seeing 235 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,320 none, let's pass it. All right, then. I Uh those in favor 236 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,839 We're going to have troubles. We're going to have We're going to have 237 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:20,040 troubles when we get back here. We're going to have troubles when we get 238 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,320 back here. There's nothing we can do on that. 239 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,280 We're going to have troubles. I'm not going to spend 240 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,000 will tell 241 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:40,920 » I will tell you Rich I talked to a couple of the residents who were right 242 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,920 there in the neighborhood 243 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:48,760 have valid concerns. residents in the community 244 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,000 also share strong concerns about the 245 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:56,640 and then the migrant housing. And so I've got to take those 246 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:59,960 in my in my head and you know based on kind of what these guys want to do. I 247 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:04,000 don't I can't speak to what they said. >> Yeah, for the record I don't have 248 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:08,320 anything against this family. >> I never said anything like that. 249 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,560 » Well, they said I didn't like Mexicans so I didn't want them there. 250 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,680 » Yeah. >> I wanted to 251 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:19,000 I wanted to try and be a daycare as you know. My only concern 252 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,000 if that can't happen 253 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:25,839 » I will you just so you're so aware it's originally where I had done this yet. 254 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,320 And I would Councilman Mullins and I have discussed 255 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,839 if we have here the the daycare possibility. Is that a tall order? It 256 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,360 is. I I believe that 257 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,320 I'm going to put out something on the internet probably within 258 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:43,160 probably this week. Engage community and participate 259 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:48,320 community forum but kind of interest there would be from 260 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,440 the community of partnering with the childcare here and talked about that 261 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:55,520 too. I did I have not spoken to 262 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:59,440 Superintendent Carson since community schools but I did talk to Mayor Lloyd 263 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:02,600 Archer. He explained to me uh they have they have a they have a 264 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,959 a situation with I believe they call it the Alice 265 00:17:03,839 --> 00:17:08,800 Learning Academy in Vincennes that was a partnership between the school 266 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,880 corporation the 267 00:17:10,199 --> 00:17:16,760 City of Vincennes and some other folks who kind of used that as a it's not 268 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:22,360 zero to five daycare but it's three to five and use 269 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,360 it as as a starting point 270 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:30,000 but that was funded in so corporation city of Vincennes Casey ID 271 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:40,080 but I'm interested to find out we have community members 272 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,200 part of that I have not talked to Casey ID 273 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:49,120 I do think corporation 274 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,040 a particularly important player on this for two reasons one the scenario just 275 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:56,960 described but two the other kind of hole that I 276 00:17:54,680 --> 00:18:02,120 see in the child care I is there's a lack of after school 277 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:20,440 » definitive I mean as the what you were saying 278 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,840 » So if I can if we get enough support my idea is that we would have a meeting 279 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,720 either here or at the school or something 280 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:29,000 » And the and the flip side of that if you don't I mean so what Richie's supposed 281 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:32,280 to do I mean going forward 282 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:36,480 » That's a good question. >> Whoever 283 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:39,800 wants to go first. >> This way 284 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:46,560 the other night said it's almost literally impossible 285 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:52,040 if you get all those players come together here in Vincennes 286 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,040 you get it done in there? 287 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,840 » You don't know till we've asked. We may strike I'll be very honest we may 288 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,840 strike out. I think we may we may absolutely strike 289 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:05,240 out. >> We got two against us right now. 290 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,640 » I agree. That would be the best thing for that for 291 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,400 » I agree but I mean child care there's nothing that anything 292 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,520 that's not needed in every community. >> But 293 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:16,000 » According to that lady last week when she knows 294 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,480 Now, I don't live down there. Okay? 295 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:34,880 But, people that I've talked to that do live 296 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:39,080 next to other ones, I have not talked to anybody down there. 297 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:42,280 They have not had Uh 298 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:46,120 That one down there, there's nobody lives there. 299 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:50,320 They live beside him. Correctly in the front of him. 300 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,760 Beside him. I did just that. 301 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,680 » The one directly in front >> The one in the 302 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,640 » in the front >> There's one house in 303 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,960 » There's one house in front, but that's it. 304 00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:03,000 » There's not a even a house straight in front 305 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,760 » It's just a >> The problem 306 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:10,840 » The problem is >> You're talking about 38. Most housing is 307 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,280 what? Eight, maybe 10. >> That's That's a 308 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,520 » That's on the side. >> Some things are bigger numbers. 309 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,760 It's a state for the building. >> Yeah. 310 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:21,840 » And the other thing is, when you don't have migrants 311 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,800 The rich Adam most bothers me with the question 312 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:28,920 » We don't have migrants there. on those lines with 313 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,160 a short term. to my guy whatever like that. We've got We can't deal with that 314 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,120 to Joe Blow. What's up? 315 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,960 Bring it up. >> because he's got to you know, he's got 316 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,600 to come back in there. You know, we still got to have that for 317 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:43,640 » You'll have work put in that Do you want your I mean 318 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,840 » I want to just >> Okay. 319 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,480 » Tony. >> Excuse me, Tony. And I and I do have 320 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,920 I'm right there. >> So, 321 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:57,440 » my guy You're telling me that we 322 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,520 and out of there in a year. We don't know who the 323 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,640 migrants are. We don't know. When the the migrants 324 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:08,080 start to be I mean, this guy is This guy 325 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,240 It seems some little cartel is there. These are These 326 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,920 » How do you know? >> Both of us are bad at the board. 327 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:14,400 We're all bad. >> We got to go. 328 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,120 » They all >> They got to go to council. 329 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,360 » They're bad. >> They don't 330 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,840 » You may have one. through and the 331 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,200 you'll have That's the difference between 332 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:29,960 same thing. >> Okay, so it's the third one. 333 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,800 Closest to Closest to the council member? 334 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:36,560 » directly by a 100 feet >> So, hit me. 335 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,560 » And you're okay. 336 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:42,320 » So, it's not just migrating, it's also the new people coming in. 337 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:46,200 » We've got kids all over the neighborhood and and that's 338 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:49,600 » We could back out of this deal, guys. This is still going to be way too 339 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,600 difficult. 340 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:58,800 » I have I have no clue what you >> We can't get that 341 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:02,760 » I I honestly don't know what in the world you could do with it. Other than 342 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:07,520 probably what you're talking about. But, just 343 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,720 Just saying that really bad to let this go without giving it a shot. 344 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,360 » I >> Give it a shot. 345 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,400 » I'm not worried about >> No, we can't 346 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,000 » I don't care about what the woman >> Pace said. I already found that one of 347 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,360 the >> hold on. We can loosen hold on. 348 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,680 » Give it a shot. >> That's 349 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,600 with Again, >> We won't be able to 350 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,800 » We won't be able to be able to know something next month. 351 00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:29,280 » I don't want to guarantee that. >> I mean, probably It's probably 352 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,960 » If If they're If Pace is willing to hang in there, loosen. 353 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,000 » I don't think they're going to find another buyer. 354 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,160 » I've committed to the >> daycare. So, 355 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,000 » Huh? >> We'll take the daycare. I've committed 356 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,000 to it. >> Excuse me, what? You're saying to me 357 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,720 you're willing to put the daycare in there and sell 358 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,960 » The purchase >> Well, now that's That's a part That's 359 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,000 » That's a pretty big component. >> Yeah. 360 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:53,000 » pretty big >> They pretty big part of 361 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,120 » That's the equal part. >> And 362 00:22:53,600 --> 00:23:00,800 » The only reason that works for us is for just different things and there's really 363 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,800 essentially no There's no way 364 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:06,640 » You don't got to make it happen to her. >> Seriously? 365 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,080 Wait, don't get a call call right now. >> So 366 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:14,760 » That's all that's but I mean they've got that would be there 367 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:18,280 They've got 100 square feet basically. 80 to 100 square feet per per guy or 368 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,120 whatever. >> I know I'm not a carpenter but how you 369 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,200 going to I mean you you said you didn't put them showers in. 370 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,280 I mean >> No, it's more one of the in the back 371 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,160 there where there's there's a men's women's dressing room. 372 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,800 The men's room You've got to have one 373 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,760 one stool for every We have 10 guys so there's more than 374 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:43,160 enough stools in there for like in that situation. And then there's that would 375 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:46,040 still only be five stools. And then for that for the women's shower the men's 376 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:51,000 shower room would be turned into a into a shower and 377 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:54,160 get a shower for 10 for 10 guys or that. >> But if you don't have room so you don't 378 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,320 mix the women and the men. >> There's no women. 379 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,360 » That that >> There's no women. 380 00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:59,360 It's all men. 381 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,360 No. No. 382 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,600 » You got water for 10 men? 383 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,480 » I thought you You don't need more than that. 384 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,760 » Yeah. >> I do also I want to have a couple 385 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,200 things. I did ask Cole 386 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,720 about obviously if this is your your zoning 387 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:20,280 change what he intends to do with that. I asked 388 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,280 Cole about we would be in a similar situation 389 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:27,760 with the child care care facility on the lot. He advised me not required for 390 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,840 zoning change. It will require a visit to zoning official issues. 391 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,640 We I want you guys to know about this 392 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,360 particular piece of land in case we go away so 393 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,200 someone says, "Well, you can make it a child care facility 394 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:46,120 a zoning change that does not come with town. It requires a zoning appeal so we 395 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:51,560 would we would be clean that. Uh I do want to just 396 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:54,640 partially stake in the audience kind of again kind of lay out the geography for 397 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,160 everybody. This is where it is. 398 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:05,200 Now, I'm going to overlay the zoning map. 399 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,520 So, I apologize if the color lines of these 400 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:15,120 colors are wrong. I apologize. This color that I believe to be a green 401 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,840 » Yellow. >> Yellow. Okay. I guess the green's over 402 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:23,320 there. All right. So, that's why I said that. Um this R1 is a zone. Minus this 403 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,280 little bit of commercial that's over there. 404 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:30,760 This is all R1 zoning, single-family use. Uh 405 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,960 kind of what you think it is. There's an R2 over here. Kind of 406 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:39,160 starting in the center core of town, south of downtown. Uh you could do 407 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,240 » Which is two blocks from where we're at. >> Uh 408 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:44,760 two and a half Yeah, yeah, two two and a half somewhere in there. 409 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Uh But most of that 410 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:52,200 most of that area down there down here on this 411 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:56,600 all around here is R1. I guess some R2 up here. This This is 412 00:25:54,080 --> 00:26:01,680 the commercial. Give you an idea is I kind of felt like given 413 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:06,240 most of this here is R1, I'm hesitant 414 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:12,640 hesitant for us to put drop R2 right in the center of that. Uh 415 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,200 » Even though it's two blocks away from where we are. 416 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,400 » Yeah, all the same. >> But even then up here, when you come up 417 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:23,160 here in this piece there are not any 418 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:27,280 multi-unit of housings up here that So, that but nobody's using it. 419 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,240 » Okay. >> So, I wanted to 420 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:33,040 » So, there's 25 30 cuz I'll say there's 20 20 TIs there. 421 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,600 That's 20 cars in the morning. That's 20 cars out in the afternoon. That's 20 422 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,240 cars in and that's 20 cars out. Or if we're 423 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,280 doing it the other way around. I'd say starting in the morning 424 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,600 the traffic in this 425 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:49,320 residential area. >> Yeah, well that was 426 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:51,840 Well, I guess I I'd say that that has been 427 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:56,760 I don't know. I don't have I don't have 428 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,760 lived down there for a while. Okay. 429 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:07,520 » And that's been Head Start since 1970. 4 430 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,560 And so the idea in my mind of traffic back and forth and they're traveling 431 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:14,880 kids to and from, I don't think it's a new development 432 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:17,760 The only guy in here that I know in this neighborhood that is Donnie. I mean, I 433 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,560 don't I don't know if you if you notice a lot of 434 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:25,680 traffic to to and from Head Start on the >> Yeah, there were a lot of cars. 435 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,680 » Yeah, I mean, yeah. 436 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,960 When you think with them? 437 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:38,720 Well, no, I'm just saying you got The traffic occurs when you think it would 438 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:38,720 occur there. 439 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:50,120 » And I imagine you'll have a lot of foot traffic 440 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,480 » When we going to know something definitive on this mirror? 441 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,520 » We I I'm willing to hang out a month or two. I'm sure Pace 442 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,520 » Well, I don't want this string on I don't this string on on you all the way 443 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,160 to the >> We got to do something sometime to give 444 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,480 it a shot. >> I mean, I I appreciate it. 445 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:17,560 » We'd just like to try >> back off and say we want to do something 446 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:20,440 hang on for a month or so. >> And we don't worry 447 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,560 » I'll come in after you. >> On the you ask 448 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,560 what We thought and when you said we that 449 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,720 includes me. And I'm saying this that if we can get a 450 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:41,720 daycare center and it's 451 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,880 it's happening that a daycare center will go in there 452 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:51,160 I'll be in favor of that. If not, I'm really open-minded about 453 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,440 what you're doing. I'm just going to say that I promise you 454 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:58,280 one way or the but daycare is my first priority. That 455 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,320 doesn't have to happen. We'll work towards 456 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,560 what you have there. So, if that helps, 457 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,520 your choice, that's >> I also think 458 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,800 you know, we start talking about about having a community meeting first 459 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,820 for this discussion, I think >> [clears throat] 460 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,280 » there's an opportunity to talk to anybody 461 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:24,720 to see to gauge what people think. 462 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,080 I don't know, maybe I'm a little naive. I just think it's going to be it's going 463 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,560 to be hard to I just want everybody to think it's 464 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,560 going to be 465 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,280 Everything positive there on the first bus back to Mexico 466 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:42,000 I've got within next Yeah. Yeah. I would say what I'm saying 467 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:45,320 is that there's a very >> Huh? 468 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,360 » Anytime we Anytime we have somebody that takes somebody to 469 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,880 jail that doesn't have have actual 470 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,680 citizenship documents, they're going to I mean, they're shipping people to 471 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,760 Russia. They're shipping people to China. 472 00:29:54,120 --> 00:30:00,640 » I think that's >> That's the racist 473 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:04,480 The reason they don't have passports >> I had I had a lot 474 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,480 truck 475 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,400 The trailer 476 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,840 Yeah, I I've never personally been out And that's the same 477 00:30:11,095 --> 00:30:15,320 » [clears throat] >> We got to get the police 478 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,720 for being called. That's what I'm talking about. 479 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,040 » That's the same guy. That's the same >> That's the same two guys. 480 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,920 » I mean, [laughter] the real The real problem I had 481 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,920 I mean, >> and 482 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,920 » making a lot of noise. 483 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,720 But, they were pretty good. >> But, they were there. 484 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,240 » They don't even >> No, but I brought them like like loose 485 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,160 for a couple months to >> The one we deal with the most is on 486 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,200 State Street. But, even there, they I think they have 487 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,200 kind of started to weed that out a little bit, 488 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,320 too. >> How many is in Oh, that's that's 489 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,640 completely That's That's 490 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,760 How long How long have you been since 491 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,920 you've been on track? 73? 492 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,440 » Probably. >> And 493 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,600 That's one consideration I've had. It is Let's get it back on 494 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,840 » Are you over stating what we're saying? 495 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,840 » No. 496 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,240 Not at all. 497 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,000 But 498 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,600 if 499 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,480 you're able to do this 500 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,200 if you're able to 501 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:50,760 I don't know why you would even do it. If I was standing there, I'd say 502 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,800 I'm out. >> I'll take period. 503 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,800 » I'm basically 504 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:03,102 I don't What? 505 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:05,200 » normal and it's worth it. >> [clears throat] 506 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:09,560 » I guess I spent the last 507 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:12,000 entire that's And that's we're looking 508 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,040 I'm in a community. I've owned the houses in Bethlehem for 509 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,880 27 years. And we've been a very good community 510 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,880 partner here. 511 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,960 That's another other things like And And it had been in town for years 512 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,920 and I would have I don't 513 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:33,200 know if I'd call uniform radio without gotten all the time. And the houses we 514 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:37,160 do have here is either there We've got 515 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:41,480 I own 30 units at 9:00 p.m. And so out of those four units probably about 25% 516 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,720 of them we got 10 units so the 25% of them is actually on section 8. I think 517 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,920 these these others are here. And I'd love to get a photo of people together 518 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,040 with the housing either one of those one of those 519 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,040 housing groups. And 520 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,600 the houses that are right next to the four other homeowner groups that 521 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,080 and let everybody take a seat and see who's got the ticket to those 522 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,120 those houses and those are belonging to those people. It's horrible. I don't 523 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,800 appreciate >> Reggie, we understand aggravation but as 524 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,920 I told you day one >> I'm happy to be in the group with you 525 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:17,480 » I mean You don't be mad at calling say you got 526 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,480 any ideas? 527 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,280 » That would be great >> And I'm just 528 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,760 we can't >> Yeah 529 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,560 » I don't want to sit there and rot And I don't know who 530 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,880 » That's the choice >> I mean I don't know how many apartments 531 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:35,360 you can make out of them You know, quite honestly I'd rather have 532 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,880 them your age too. I would the apartment deal 533 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:42,480 » Well, I mean it would be it would be highly it would 534 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:46,360 cost me a lot of money to get apartments to bust out of four by fives 535 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,680 So then now we're plumbing issues that we got to deal with 536 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,200 that try to get kitchens where they need to be, toilets and things all those 537 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:56,320 other things where they need to be. But what we want to do is 538 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,320 install right here where this 539 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,760 I would have to do that property so that saves a lot of money on making that 540 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:06,040 happen for the last >> And they could use the playground 541 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:09,639 » Yeah, yeah. I can slide down that >> I think that's private property 542 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,280 » It is not. No, Now there's 543 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:15,560 There's a suppression Probably should have put the cost so 544 00:34:13,879 --> 00:34:20,320 much to get it But they 545 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,320 You know I don't feel 546 00:34:20,653 --> 00:34:22,673 » [laughter] 547 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:29,560 » You got a lake? >> That is done That is agreed on 548 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:33,560 Debate on the re-zoning So now if they wanted to they could hold 549 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:37,919 they could hold the fire if they so chose to. go with it 550 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,800 Again, there's a great commercial operation down there. 551 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:44,240 15 years it's a I would probably 552 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,120 There's a lot of stuff that's going on that's down there. 553 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,679 » Anybody else? 554 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,400 Thank you, Rich. >> I've got somewhere else to go in about 555 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,040 15 minutes. >> Rich? Rich, go ahead and walk. 556 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,000 All right. Reports from department heads. Chief 557 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,000 Rowe. 558 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,120 » After you. 559 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:24,640 » Um Starting on the cleanup. I was spraying 560 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:29,080 and I have discussed, you know, we've had some 561 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:33,440 some areas that we've revisited. My understanding is for several years 562 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:36,120 uh I've been trying 563 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:40,680 to do some cleanup. 564 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,760 I was left with, you know, but it's one of those sayings 565 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:48,480 uh I discussed with the mayor is 566 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:52,280 hopping here and hopping there and going here and doing a little something and 567 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,360 trouble areas we need to stay 568 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:07,200 had some luck going on over there. Drove around another 569 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:12,760 some properties over by Donnie some problems 570 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,760 by sometime 571 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,560 give it a couple of pushes Jeff 572 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:26,040 taking an enormous amount of 573 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,040 junk out. 574 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:32,120 So far uh 575 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,120 And if we get stuck 576 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,680 my brother and some of them I know that asked for 577 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:48,640 lived with it for years give me a little talk. I mean, some of these places 578 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:56,040 you know, they may be perfect and a lot better than what they were 579 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:59,640 some of these others they're working that we have that we've got 580 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:06,840 certain kinds of of called junk vehicles 581 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,280 that have left. 582 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,640 I was reviewing that from some pictures that I took 583 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,760 uh last year. A lot of people didn't 584 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,760 realize there was and even the ward against it 585 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:25,320 and asking them and this you know, this is the issue. 586 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:33,960 A lot of people have voluntarily 587 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:37,080 some of their masses you know, many people 588 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,760 that you know, we're probably going to have 589 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,640 to you know, I'd rather clean up a few 590 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:45,040 places than a 591 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,680 uh in my time here 592 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,560 and I mean, I you know, I've been here a little over a year. 593 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,480 uh It's different because I go around 594 00:37:54,240 --> 00:38:00,720 taking pictures of everything. And 595 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:05,120 I go back and a lot of 596 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:10,520 and a lot of it is just purely the uh 597 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:15,960 cooperation of people who live here. Uh I mean, I'm not 598 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:18,760 you know, the vast majority of I'm not threatening to cite threatening to cite 599 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,800 them or anything like that. They voluntarily 600 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:26,400 took care. So, I think 601 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,400 the property owner on 602 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,160 Old Cole and >> And uh 603 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:34,600 » Maple and were most 604 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,880 But you know, there's there was 605 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:43,400 a main amount of trash that they had been 606 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:47,240 And I don't know Most of it looked like it was old. 607 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,920 Looked like a big pile. It was actually a lot of trash that they had burned 608 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,136 years over the years. 609 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:55,280 Uh >> [clears throat] 610 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,000 » And then they did that. I mean, it's all cleaned up. 611 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:01,080 I think they took 10 vehicles out of there. 612 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,200 Uh They took 613 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:07,080 » took >> I mean, he he he was hauling it out in a 614 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:12,640 a uh and I I was watching him on site and he 615 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:15,120 did he did about 10, 12 pickups at one site. 616 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,400 » It was Cole and Maple. >> Uh 617 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:24,240 He called it Cole and Maple. >> What is 618 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,240 It's the team right there. 619 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,160 That ain't Cole. >> Yellow yellow house on the corner. 620 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,960 » That ain't Cole. >> It's right there behind 621 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,800 » Randy Miller. >> This one. 622 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,240 » In other words, look that's that's another 623 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,800 » That's another one. >> Go down there. 624 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,760 » This one is >> That's where I'm 625 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:43,200 » I don't I don't know where all the guns >> Now 626 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:47,200 they had their stuff there. All right, those places that's owned out 627 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,920 of state by somebody in Florida. So, >> Anyway, 628 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:54,320 he is They're knocking down some of the 629 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:58,080 the brush I mean, there's mountains of trash. 630 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,520 » But is it to double the truck? 631 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,760 » It's across the street from the >> Okay. 632 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,600 » Bases >> Yeah, Bases would have been 633 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,920 » But it's right there in that But I just 634 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,160 » You know, that's just one, you know what I mean? And some of them 635 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:14,240 » That that one One behind Bases. 636 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,280 » Yes. >> Well, yeah. 637 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,160 » Well, it looks about I guess that ain't >> Well, then the one he's talking about 638 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,280 Bases. >> Which one are you talking about? 639 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:27,360 We are engaged with them as well. 640 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:32,560 They have taken out a lot of 641 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,560 of uh 642 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,800 They have They have treasured 643 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:45,400 They have taken out a lot. It's going to be a process. There's something there. 644 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,840 But I said that they're They have made some It's definitely in the positive 645 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,640 direction. >> Those folks 646 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,560 I mean an excavator there for 5 or 6 years ago. 647 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,920 » Right. >> So I don't know 6 years ago. And the guy 648 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,720 was sick and they were going to go and go and go and go and go and go and 649 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:09,400 The apple tree is not in the alley. >> I'd have to look. 650 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,200 I don't understand. I don't probably 651 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,400 » They They have been doing some >> They They have been doing some things. 652 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,000 I'm working over there and doing things and I'm 653 00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:24,960 I'm preparing myself for this situation where you got to come down with an 654 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,320 excavator or a backhoe. >> Yeah. 655 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,560 Good job. That's the same 656 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:38,360 No idea There I I got with the property owner. 657 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:45,240 I walked around I 658 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,240 photographed 659 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:51,800 There's this Every everything that that's grown up 660 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:56,600 and green or something you can uh it's grown up on top of 661 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,600 uh 662 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:03,560 They like I said Thus far they've done 663 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,560 They have done some good work. Get rid of 664 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:10,640 uh you know, several several trailer loads 665 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:14,520 of trash. Uh 666 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:17,600 They still have quite a bit of time. I mean 667 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:22,760 I don't know who's with them on the highway 668 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,760 down there. I mean that's going to be 669 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,600 They have 670 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,720 She's taken 671 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,200 at least two semi loads 672 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:45,640 and it's a lot better and she's happy. I mean 673 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,720 she actually happy that you know her yard's looking 674 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,840 better. >> Just need somebody to give her a push. 675 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,840 » If she can give her 676 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,680 » And you know that part of it you know she she has some 677 00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:01,720 some family members and and things she wants rid of those junk vehicles. 678 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,120 And they kind of you know they pressured us well I'll get rid of them for you. 679 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:12,000 It's her problem. >> I was I was the one working on the 680 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,920 couple couple complaints 681 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,600 I was on the office street and that kind of had 11 dogs. 682 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,920 Uh the neighbor called and asked me a question about the animals breeding 683 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,440 which are currently prohibited in our city ordinance but I have to figure out 684 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,720 if What do you have? 685 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,840 It fits the facts based on what we've been told. 686 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:36,280 That's what we've been trying to cooperate with 687 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:40,040 folks I think. They can call lots of other folks on some small small 688 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:44,800 stuff. >> More people are cooperating. 689 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,240 I mean I I think That's what I found. 690 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,920 You know 691 00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:57,080 You got a lot of people. It's always difficult. But 692 00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:03,520 you know one of the one of the things that I brought you know a lot of this is 693 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,520 on a contract to buy. 694 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,840 Well 695 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:11,320 that if I start writing tickets to the yellow 696 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:15,440 sign They don't care. I can write them as 697 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,920 many tickets as you know, they they have no intention of 698 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,240 is those can be put as a lien on that 699 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:27,160 property. And then they buy the property down the 700 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:32,000 road and they inherit that lien. And they're not even going to know, you 701 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:35,400 know, I was dealing with one lady I said, you know, 702 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,920 I wouldn't be dealing with you. I 703 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:44,040 but you're going to incur all of this when you eventually get the property. 704 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:48,320 And that was kind of a push. She was She wasn't even aware of that. Once I told 705 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,320 her that, 706 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:59,800 » Do you actually know anybody that ever dealt with those 707 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,800 and they actually got the deed? 708 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:18,720 » The unfortunate thing I've seen is 709 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:23,960 poor unfortunate people see those properties when they go online 710 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,960 they do these type of 711 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:30,040 and they look at these properties when they were well taken care of 712 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,840 and you know, I had one young couple that showed up here 713 00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:43,480 planning on moving in and they had sold their house. 714 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:46,320 And they had no idea, you know, 715 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:51,760 and then they ended up uh uh 716 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,760 uh buying 717 00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:01,880 » I think the old house on the street is that way. 718 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,600 » for a lifetime. But then they 719 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:09,840 they'll buy sell for 28,000 720 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:13,920 and then they'll buy it back for 10. 721 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:17,200 And they put back one car. We have to 722 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,240 Any any other questions or >> Let me ask a question, man. 723 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,360 » How are you with the Dollar General on Short Street? 724 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,560 Next to the Dollar General on Short Street. 725 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,880 » I'm sorry. >> The Dollar General on Short Street. Part 726 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,640 of the Short Street. >> Okay. 727 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,800 » To the house? >> The house? 728 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,000 » Left of the >> society. 729 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,760 » No, that's mine. >> No, you're beside my property. 730 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,760 » Yeah. 731 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:45,400 » You have another one right next to >> Wait, they have so much trash now 732 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,080 that it's between our >> No, that's illegal. 733 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,400 » It's flowing over there. >> Yeah. 734 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:56,680 Uh My answer to that is is I want to 735 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,680 want to clean up. 736 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,760 I gave 737 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:06,320 This this is what I, you know, I found is 738 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,320 is a business. 739 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,760 And clean it up a little bit after. 740 00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:18,440 problem. And it is really hard to tell if you clean up a little bit of junk. 741 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,840 And it is hard to tell when they start 742 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,400 adding to it. And you know, you clean it up 743 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,080 you know, it's clean. 744 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,920 And then most of the you know, I've seen a lot of 745 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:37,920 homes then they don't get cleaned up. 746 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,920 But I mean, if there's already 747 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:45,120 Clutter clutter begins to flow. And so 748 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,800 Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at. No, I have not gotten over there. 749 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,760 I mean, you have over there. 750 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:57,280 So that was a I don't want to say more pressing, 751 00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:59,720 but it presented itself as an opportunity where I could resolve the 752 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,280 issue. >> You're not Yeah, and you're not going to 753 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,160 be able to resolve this. They don't They don't 754 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,760 They don't care and they verbally have said that they 755 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,760 don't care. >> I mean we I mean we can definitely look 756 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:13,520 at this week. I think that's I mean but that's just, you know, I'm 757 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,640 not saying I'm I'm not saying I'm you know 758 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,120 » No, I understand. >> It's just trying to get 759 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,120 just trying to do 760 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:25,440 20 or 30 get the people 761 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:28,360 You know what I mean? And then Maybe I got nothing 762 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,840 Do you guys have any Do you guys have any Tom, do you want to 763 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,760 We got a few >> Thank you. 764 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,160 » This is Tom. Any other Any other questions? 765 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,080 Fire Mike. 766 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:45,640 We've had 42 runs already in the last month. 767 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:50,880 Uh I had the insurance guy come the other day. 768 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,880 I crawled around on the roof. 769 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:58,240 I went in the attic. Took a bunch of pictures. 770 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,240 I didn't get to talk to anybody after that. 771 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:04,400 But you know there's got to be a hole before they cover metal. 772 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:11,320 It depends on the metal what it blown back 773 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:14,720 and some of the screws or nails pushed back. 774 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:19,840 He said he found these spots where it looked like hail but most of it just 775 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,840 looked like damage. 776 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:25,840 So, the fire station is covered under a different policy than everything else 777 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,840 cuz 778 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:33,560 Good question. The guy that I found on the roof of all these other ones on the 779 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:38,000 fire station he said that Nobody said that to 780 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:41,080 But this guy told me that it was Nobody said that. 781 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:45,000 That's the insurance company covering all this. I don't know what the guy was 782 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,000 going to say. 783 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:52,640 So, the contractor said that the pitch it knocks off the granules so bad. 784 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:57,520 But the insurance company said well, unless it's actually hit and gets toward 785 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,520 the whole end. 786 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,680 We had water the other day. 787 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,520 Right here in my office doorway. 788 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:21,040 So, I'm assuming it went through the roof, through the middle of the wall, 789 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:25,200 and just come out around the corner. But you actually have a leak. 790 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:29,200 Somewhere down there. Yeah. I've I've seen them. Couple of 791 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:32,720 those. I've I've just wanted anybody else to have any comments from 792 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,440 Uh couple of other things that are out there. 793 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:47,095 » One question I'm having and you and if we can maybe come back to it after you 794 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:51,320 go through what you want to go through. >> [clears throat] 795 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:54,840 » I I kind of I just got contacted And I can set that up like I'm going to 796 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,920 set that contract requested about >> Yeah. 797 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,800 » that deal down there. >> Yeah, I I can have them come back to 798 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,800 talk about that. 799 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,000 » Okay. So, you go through what you want to go through. 800 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:08,240 » So, a couple of other things that are out there. 801 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,320 This is my piece here but we do have a couple of decent 802 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,880 problems high in the building. 803 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,320 Uh I know there was a little bit of water 804 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:19,440 left in a couple of pipes so they broke. Fixing that 805 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,640 should be up They got those One piece that's coming 806 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:26,400 in on Amazon and we got to get down by the weekend. 807 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:32,920 It's been there 5 years and big thing we've had to fix 808 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,320 Um The current Board of Works today, the 809 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:39,320 Board of Works approved the demolition of 12 West Third. For those of you who 810 00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:41,000 keep keep score, that's down by uh Jeff Nessel. 811 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:45,520 Uh it's bought by the the yellow sign 812 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:48,920 people equivalent. I say it. There's actually a wall laying in the back of 813 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,720 They had to sell off the tree that they had set up there. 814 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:08,680 Uh, we also upheld We also upheld 815 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:12,840 315 East First and 316 Place. I'm going to wait and I'm going to send 816 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:16,920 the property to the daughter. There's anything that she won't get out 817 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,920 of or wants to do with it. 818 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:23,400 Keep that in mind. We also approved clean up of a property 819 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,080 at Merlin and Kicks Miller. It's two vacant lots that we bought at the 820 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,840 commission sale. Has an old trailer on it and the 821 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:34,360 yard is covered because the neighbor next door 822 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:38,240 co-ops for their own use. Uh, so that will be one to have him show 823 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:43,720 up with the machine in the box and he scraps it all and makes it disappear. 824 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:46,880 So, Uh, that's all for today. Yeah, 825 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,880 they'll say 826 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,920 Miles will be returning on the 21st. That's the last day of school. They have 827 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,880 to do some curb work and some drainage by the school. 828 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,800 Then they'll start the mill overlay there after. So, I suspect we'll see new 829 00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:02,720 asphalt mid-late June. Their contract date is 830 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,720 the 10th of July. 831 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:09,120 » Yeah, Mary talking about them houses. 832 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,720 Talking about that place that's grown over 833 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,560 on Bruceville Avenue. And I I mean 834 00:53:12,506 --> 00:53:15,800 » [clears throat] >> it's that 835 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:20,440 If If you're coming off of Bruceville Avenue, 836 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:23,880 you pass G. Smith's house on the left and you go on the opposite side of the 837 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:28,000 street. I mean there's there's brush and everything. It's all 838 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:30,920 » That's probably 217. We have a pending order with her. 839 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,800 Uh, latest inside. 840 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,960 » Uh, somebody lives in there? >> Uh, yeah. So, she 841 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,000 » Good in at Second Street. Turn a little bit to the right. 842 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,160 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 843 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:45,520 » So, >> So, we started that 844 00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:48,800 3 or 4 months ago. I think probably 845 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:52,160 we sent her a notice. In my opinion, the place needs to be flattened. 846 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,600 Um the lady who lives there, who is the owner of record, claims that she has an 847 00:53:54,120 --> 00:54:01,000 illness that prevents her from coming outside for an extended period of time. 848 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:06,920 Tom was actually very nervous. Uh I talked to Tom several times, and of 849 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,920 course the cardboard boxes, 850 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:13,280 where she has all her stuff I'm pretty sure there's no more mice. 851 00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:16,480 We need to get rid of them. So, I'm trying to figure out a way that I can 852 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:23,440 go to her house and grab her and get her out and, you know, throw somebody on the 853 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:27,880 street. This This This one's going to be difficult. But, to your point, Johnny, 854 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:32,160 we are engaged. >> Didn't some people clean that up? 855 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:35,080 Seemed like I had locked up there and Yeah. 856 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,920 » It was did for What was that tree growing out on the 857 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,840 somewhere around it up for 858 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:44,160 » Yeah. Well, and we got we got a lot 859 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:48,000 few years ago. This may be what you're talking about. 860 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:51,120 The front porch collapsed and stuff. I said, "Put the box in the yard." I had 861 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:55,640 guys getting it and they did it well. 862 00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:58,560 She has statements to me she was going to sell it or give it to 863 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:05,480 fantastic. Uh it'll be a long time 864 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,480 because I'm 865 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:11,600 I She doesn't want to leave. And 866 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:14,560 can't tear it down. >> We talked to her 867 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,720 » No, I don't >> Based on what 868 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,560 » And Tom corrected me I don't think >> I think she's 60. 869 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,840 » I I talked to her on the phone. She's She's competent. Like, it's 870 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:28,440 nothing nothing like that. She can make her own decisions. It's not 871 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:32,880 an issue like that. And she's 872 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,880 relatively intelligent. 873 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:39,520 Uh to your So, we're trying to figure out 874 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:43,160 » I can't tell you anything about this. >> No. 875 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:49,720 Limestone comes back we do have a small sinkhole. 876 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,720 Washington through there you'll see 877 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:56,480 more deep and wide and they're separated by limestone. 878 00:55:54,440 --> 00:56:00,760 What's limestone on which side of town? 879 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:04,240 That's on limestone. That's a pipeline. We're placing gas lines all over that 880 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,040 on our dime. 881 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:16,440 No, that's on the dial and they did that 882 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:16,440 when they were here last 883 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,920 They said send me a list of the ones you're going to do. Well, I sent them 884 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:27,040 and I accept that what they're doing over there because they're crossing in a 885 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,280 couple And they've actually been real good. 886 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,600 They've only they've potholed everything and really 887 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:36,120 been fair with what Well, they bored bored a lot of it. They 888 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,760 bored most of up and directional boring a lot of 889 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,440 I'm probably going to leave here and show up tomorrow. 890 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,280 I'm I'm I'm going to plan that ditch and I'm 891 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:49,680 trying to pull that up and They're they're getting 892 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:55,960 We're taking this all in. down 893 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:59,760 down there and actually the younger fish is down. 894 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:05,720 I'm actually I'm actually I'm actually I'm actually 895 00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:08,720 I'm going to take a around and put them on the truck. 896 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:15,840 I'm going to try to get paid for putting them on the truck. Yeah, okay. So, um 897 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,840 I'm trying to discover more things. 898 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,800 I'm actually breaking the news on this now. 899 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:25,640 All right, sounds good. No, cuz it's not Keep it to yourself. 900 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:33,080 I know I'm going to say it anyway. So, you all know that we did East 4th Street 901 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:37,600 made real pretty and it's fabulous and wonderful. 902 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:42,240 We have uncovered that there is a storm drain in that new street. 903 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,200 It would be about between fault and Thomas Street that's 904 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:49,000 about It's easy to find together. 905 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:52,360 Well, Lee and Donnie and I and and John have been trying to figure out the new 906 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,960 way to go. So, 907 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:03,600 it gets 50 ft past where the About one before 908 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,800 » Up the hill. >> Up the hill. 909 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,080 » Yeah. >> So, 910 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,080 » We're looking in here. 911 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:18,480 » 4th Street. >> Thomas Street, Fault Street. 912 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:22,640 Manhole right there. It drains into that manhole. 913 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:27,680 Water from up here comes into these into these pipes and manholes. This way 914 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,680 Following? 915 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,880 What we found out is when it heavy rains, you'd sit at this Fault Street 916 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,800 intersection and water would come up out of the 917 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,800 drains and 918 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:44,160 We opened the mess up with three three and a half stuck it all out and did it 919 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,800 and did it some more. Told my guys, I said, "Get down in this 920 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,000 man This manhole up here is new. 921 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:54,400 » The new one. >> Yeah, and it's new from here that way. 922 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,360 So, my heart already got down in this probably 923 00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:01,000 5 6 Got in, took the pictures. You can see 924 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:06,320 15 that there's the top the top of 925 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:11,080 down inside of it. It does flow It can flow a lot of water. 926 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:14,120 So, talked to John. He said, "You can rent for real." 927 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:19,960 We had an outfit come out with a robotic camera. They crawled up 15 ft from that 928 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,960 manhole is where it's at. 929 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:25,360 So, I don't have any reason to believe the current's doing well. 930 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:30,480 Cuz if they would have I'd have said, "Just tap tap on and go. 931 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,240 When it rains a little bit you don't notice 932 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:36,360 when we have heavy downpours of rain. I've sat here in my truck and watched 933 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,400 the manhole here at a half a block up just 934 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,240 pop and settle. 935 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,520 It comes cuz the water backs up that way. 936 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:48,480 » I don't know. >> Um 937 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,960 You can consider based on what Milestone has told me that 938 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:58,120 I don't think they can lie. We thought that maybe 939 00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:03,160 I mean I think it can be fixed that based on how the 940 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:06,360 » I think we should be >> I don't 941 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,800 John, I don't know about that one. What are you talking about? I'm like, "What?" 942 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,720 Milestone told me that the pipe burst and he basically described what you told 943 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,400 me and you told me one up. >> It's like a mole 944 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:21,800 » I have not gotten far in the weeds on it. It is is my preference. 945 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:24,160 » It may not be financially here. Like busy 946 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,040 and sit right on the road now. >> Right. 947 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,560 » But that's a big plus 948 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:33,920 new pipe and be able to pull the moving with it. 949 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:37,240 » I have not I I do not have any nerves >> It's a quick fix. 950 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:42,240 » It's a quick fix. I mean as far as >> I want to ask you, Robin, is that 951 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:46,680 » Depends on after that 15 ft. I mean if you're either one you know 952 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,960 » You dig up >> Huh? 953 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:54,040 If you dig up 15 ft and say, "Hey, we found it." 954 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,920 You look up 30 ft. 955 01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:00,120 But it could be worse. It could be 10 or 12 956 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,840 Oh yeah, it is. It's shallow in compared to the other 957 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:08,440 stuff we got to do. So I'm telling you this to say that 958 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:13,160 we're figuring it out. We do not have service is not impaired. On top we got 959 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,880 to see the John and I talked to you thought thought 960 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:19,800 the reason we were buying this time we put it down so we have a better base on 961 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:23,280 that. I'm telling you all this to say there 962 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,480 I'm really unpleasant conversation where I said we got to got to do it or 963 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,800 something. I just think Shelton should do it. 964 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:31,920 But I don't I don't have a better answer than that. 965 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:36,800 We've been we've been kind of Donny William and I've been working through 966 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,800 this month and a half. 967 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:51,240 I just I hate it because because I've seen it and we know that we 968 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,240 could have just fixed it. 969 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,640 And we've tried tried to do everything in our power to 970 01:01:55,720 --> 01:02:02,240 try to have this >> It's CIA here. 971 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:06,680 » They are doing the best. Great basketball court today. 972 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:09,960 » I'll add mine to that. >> Well, then you're going to be He's going 973 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,960 to go to school. 974 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,600 So, that's out there. 975 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:24,760 Um I'm on senior Myers. I believe you want to discuss something with us about 976 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,760 parking. 977 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:35,080 All of our guys are on Main Street. legally 978 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:43,320 Everybody moved on Dalton Street on our side of the road. 979 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,080 All of our employees are parking on Dalton Street. 980 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:52,160 » Right. >> I've got a 981 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:55,800 It's up here. New recovery placement and now we've got 982 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:58,880 a Might as well be it. 983 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:04,280 You had parked on your lot for extra gravel. 984 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,920 It's out. It's been parked there for about 10 days 985 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,760 and not moved. >> Park right there. 986 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,880 » They won't park anything on our side of the road. 987 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:23,600 Um Brian talked to No. >> Um Brian talked to this a little while 988 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:27,640 back. I I sent you guys an email that has the existing ordinance on file for 989 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:31,400 residential parking signs. That ordinance goes back to 1987. I do not 990 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:35,280 find it to be applicable in this situation because it talks about 991 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:39,240 residential family housing. And for situations where 992 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:42,440 a homeowner gets a sign and they buy and do not have any off-street parking, it 993 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:45,680 doesn't enter I don't I don't find it applicable in the situation I'm talking 994 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:49,800 about. >> The real issue is I mean our lot is just 995 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:54,040 big enough to spin our truck and trailer around in. 996 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:57,040 Um that's why we don't three weeks from having 997 01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:02,000 That traffic just number of traffic that's 998 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:05,120 will further complicate our guys being able 999 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:09,480 to >> Ain't that concrete across the road in 1000 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:14,320 between the building? Not only that concrete. 1001 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:16,480 » There's a piece of it >> In between it. 1002 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,160 » There's >> bad spot. 1003 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,880 » Done. >> There's bad in 1004 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,320 » Yeah, that's that's [clears throat] going to be 1005 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:26,920 » He was parking his employees next to that building where bricks may fall off 1006 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:30,160 and hit their car. >> I mean initially we were going to park 1007 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:33,760 on Reed Street. That's why we graveled the asphalt 1008 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:38,520 and then the asphalt. The problem is you can't get turned 1009 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,520 around down there. 1010 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,920 » They set a semi trailer there. >> No. 1011 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,280 » It's not a straight truck. It's a two and a half 1012 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,800 ton >> It's a It's a U-Haul truck. Remember it 1013 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,920 said over here? >> Yep. 1014 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:56,640 » And I have a And I need to look at it. I haven't had time to look at it, but we 1015 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:59,880 do have a notice that prohibits And the other the other complaint that I 1016 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:05,080 get against I have is we're spending a lot of money down on Main Street 1017 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:09,360 We also have a car turn turning into the sidewalk 1018 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:11,240 two nights now. Parking on the sidewalk. 1019 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,280 » Yeah, they were >> They're right in the middle of the 1020 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,200 sidewalk. >> They were unloading stuff in in that old 1021 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:20,480 Yeah, and I had >> I mean it's been there a bit, too. 1022 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,480 » Yeah. 1023 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:32,320 » No. >> So so 1024 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:35,160 You want some signs down there? >> Well, also 1025 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:40,320 the truck being where it's at, when we go to pull out 1026 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,320 on Elm Street, you can't see the truck. 1027 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,120 » And that's why we leave 1028 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:07,160 Right. Right. I was thinking like if they wanted a designated employee 1029 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:10,000 » He can park that truck up there behind the old 1030 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:15,640 » I mean I was looking >> And I thought he could park it in there. 1031 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,640 » I mean you can't use the 1032 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:24,000 Oh, I can't back it in there. >> Well, he owns the building up 1033 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,760 the old Eagle building. 1034 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:32,600 » I I decided to do a couple of things and I I told Brian to come up and talk to 1035 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,200 you guys because if you 1036 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:38,320 if there was a a need to designate parking specifically for 1037 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,720 him and his employees, do you guys need to vote on it? 1038 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:45,640 » What do we need to do? >> Uh so, I mean you guys would need to 1039 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,400 I can draft We can draft an ordinance or you guys 1040 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,760 can vote. >> You know, to 1041 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,920 » to designate >> Look, he's it's probably better if we 1042 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:56,400 write it out specifically and say, "Hey, it's this this spot." 1043 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:03,120 » I'd say we get it done there. >> Me, too. 1044 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,120 » I've got one question. 1045 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:08,440 Um you would use if we if we do give you 1046 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:15,080 some parking Uh how late do you use the park 1047 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:19,480 can can you guys be out there in time the recovery needs it 1048 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:22,680 You know I mean I mean we can >> Well I mean I don't know how to answer 1049 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,920 that because we work late 1050 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:29,720 » Yeah most most of the time between 3 and 5 they're done 1051 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:32,200 Um I don't really know where all these vehicles 1052 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,960 understanding was these guys drive to 1053 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,920 where all these vehicles are 1054 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,631 I'm not sure if they're even what they're even 1055 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,920 I don't even want to know >> [laughter] 1056 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:54,120 » Can we do something like >> business working only between 1057 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,320 6:00 in the morning and 6:00 at night >> I got 1058 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,040 » I got an idea I have a thought 1059 01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,960 » I got notified of this pending issue 1060 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:06,840 we might bring this up and see if what the town wants 1061 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:09,480 if it can do um before we 1062 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:13,720 » It doesn't have to be an immediate fix 1063 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:16,120 we're just complaints we're 1064 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,160 out there on Main Street trying to get them off 1065 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:21,680 » get them on Main Street and they move back in and then I mean there's a good 1066 01:08:20,279 --> 01:08:25,120 number I should probably know this 1067 01:08:25,799 --> 01:08:31,400 » How many employees do you have to come in and park here every day? 1068 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,960 » Four every day >> Five 1069 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:41,480 » If I'm doing the math he didn't give a day off to you 1070 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:45,520 three other guys so >> I do freaking all of them so 1071 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:48,600 » Yeah one didn't drive four of them are there every day they 1072 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:52,920 didn't drive and then Josiah Mack is there and he's 1073 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:55,319 not so that's 1074 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,520 » I think in the short term what we could do because he showed me the live video 1075 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,960 where that truck is sitting in relationship to his place 1076 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,720 I think I have time to go down and try to 1077 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:09,600 obviously got a sight distance problem. Where people can't see the intersection. 1078 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:12,920 That's an issue. He can't come out of his place 1079 01:09:11,480 --> 01:09:17,440 smoke is coming from coming down off the street. 1080 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:20,440 We might be really curious if the lights on that truck are valid. 1081 01:09:25,759 --> 01:09:30,120 » What do they use that >> Like I said, it hasn't moved in the last 1082 01:09:29,480 --> 01:09:31,920 8 days. >> Is that a fact? 1083 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,120 » I've been here >> one down there. 1084 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:39,400 » I got to go put the junk out of the building up here beside the flower shop 1085 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,400 and then put it in 1086 01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:44,960 and he didn't want to answer. And I told you yesterday. 1087 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:52,359 There's no reason for that except tonight. 1088 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,000 » It's >> Really, if it was 1089 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,080 » it's going to be >> we wouldn't have a problem. I mean, 1090 01:09:55,360 --> 01:10:00,000 that's pretty >> three parking three 1091 01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:03,200 » Well, my my hope would be that we could 1092 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:07,080 I got to look at the short term to see if we got to get to the we got to go 1093 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:11,360 that route, but I got to >> same people are on the the argument I 1094 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:16,520 got when I approached them last time they had to park on our side because 1095 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:18,720 there's no cameras facing their side. >> I 1096 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:25,240 » What they're going to say >> Lots of cameras there or 1097 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:30,040 » Right. Yeah, I'm sure they'll >> How does that thing work? Somebody like 1098 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:32,880 paying them for them people to >> Right. 1099 01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:37,280 » I have no idea. I haven't seen very many 1100 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,200 I mean, that's that's but that's a >> That's what's wrong with 1101 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,280 » Huh? >> I haven't seen enough people or cars 1102 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,640 » That's actually >> Paul Apple's got a million dollars 1103 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,040 himself. >> We'll talk to 1104 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:51,520 » So >> pick a 1105 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,520 drive 1106 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:59,800 The Lord pick us up. >> Well, she usually he's on his side. 1107 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,800 » Yeah, but I mean, he can come and there 1108 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:07,000 » Is he in there or is he helping there? >> Is it 1109 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,360 » He's right by the limit. >> He's a chaperone, that's my 1110 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,720 understanding. >> For what? 1111 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:14,760 » Chaperone, somebody kind of watches over them and 1112 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,640 makes sure they're not >> He might be doing that in the 1113 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:26,080 » He told me he's never been in any alcohol or drugs. He said he's done 6 1114 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:29,720 months in rehab and he's trying to pay back everybody that helped him with his 1115 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:32,360 treatment. >> I don't know. 1116 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:37,080 » I can tell you just so we have it on record, I 1117 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:39,920 property had been closed uh 1118 01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:44,040 previously for its 1119 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:47,680 in uninhabitable conditions. Previous owners were using this rehab. I 1120 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:51,000 talked to Dr. Stewart at the sanitarium. 1121 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:53,320 Corrected all of the issues that caused that closure, so we're going to help 1122 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:58,040 this out. I also asked 1123 01:11:55,760 --> 01:12:00,760 the issues in that commercial zone. He said that he is committed. 1124 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:03,720 So about anybody else outside of here that 1125 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:07,280 I could, you know, try to make a kick out of this issue 1126 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,280 with this 1127 01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:14,560 Now, I will tell you it hasn't happened yet. 1128 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:18,280 Our department of law I know that 1129 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:22,080 previous rehabilitation place that was there we had law enforcement, fire, and 1130 01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:25,560 EMS calls there on a regular basis. >> But I've only been there once, so I 1131 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:30,240 I believe it was the US two shoes 1132 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:36,600 So I I I suspect that uh I could smell more than one vest that 1133 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,600 So I They were in a black minivan. 1134 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:42,240 » Now, it's us. >> And is he 1135 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,400 » What are you doing in a black minivan, Deacon? 1136 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:51,800 » What did he say? >> He probably said he 1137 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,800 Is that what he said? 1138 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:56,440 » As long as they stay on that side of the street, don't come over to my side. 1139 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:59,720 » Yeah, yeah. >> No. 1140 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,280 It's a prohibition chance. 1141 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:05,240 » All right. Anybody else on this >> We'll do what we can. 1142 01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:09,160 It's all right. >> I'll see if I can get them moved 1143 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,160 tomorrow. 1144 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,080 » I'm dying to do it. 1145 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,200 » All right. >> He is working back to his CD. He is uh I 1146 01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:20,640 think he's making good progress on 3rd Street. The waterline [clears throat] 1147 01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:23,520 stuff is finished. >> close to finish. 1148 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:28,640 » I had a few neighbor complaints that we've got to settle. We'll work through 1149 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,640 that. 1150 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:37,000 I do I'll go let's go back to uh John, are you 1151 01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:39,240 » I want to ask Mr. Dowdy some questions. >> Yeah. 1152 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:42,640 » Sir, what I mean that place down there in Pennsylvania 1153 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:46,560 down there. First of all, I mean 1154 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:49,800 that price that they're talking about, is that 1155 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:56,240 high And and second part of that was I mean 1156 01:13:53,560 --> 01:14:00,440 are you optimistic that you facilitate a deal to be made into that 1157 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:04,080 » Well, the 3rd Street is 1158 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:10,040 pretty high. alluded to it. 1159 01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,440 And I 1160 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:18,280 I couldn't make a deal at that price. What I'm doing, I can't. 1161 01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:22,440 Which Yeah, you can, 1162 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:28,520 So, it would have to be around the one you know, 175 1163 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:32,600 which is more of a fair market. fair market. Maybe maybe two and a 1164 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:36,120 quarter. That's the fair 1165 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,960 range. >> You know, she 1166 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,800 » for that piece of property. >> She said that Rich can't come off an 1167 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,120 offer. >> Yeah. 1168 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,480 » When I talked >> can't 1169 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,520 They're the ones that shot the price. shot the pride 1170 01:14:48,766 --> 01:14:53,240 » [clears throat] >> if they wanted more. 1171 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:55,600 Now she said they come up and >> offered her 1172 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,160 » It would have been 1173 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,720 » Yeah, they said they wouldn't even >> That's that's 1174 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,760 when you told me that that that was bothersome. 1175 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:09,200 » Yeah. Is that the place you feel is ready to 1176 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:13,720 go as like for day care facilities obviously 1177 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,280 if you go the other way you know 1178 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,080 » Yeah, I was I guess >> Yeah, the right 1179 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:21,520 » If I would take that it exceeds standards 1180 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:25,240 for purpose 1181 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,240 basically you know 1182 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:34,200 It's beautiful. I was in it probably 1183 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:39,280 within the last year. It's ready. 1184 01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:42,920 » Ready today? >> I don't believe it, but I've had six or 1185 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:48,400 eight women contact me and say they would volunteer 1186 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:50,640 a couple days a week. They want to pay They used to 1187 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:54,680 run a day care. >> I have a day care facility cuz she 1188 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:59,720 and the bottom fell out from under her. 1189 01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,720 » No, this is 1190 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:05,040 » She's willing. >> My phone number 1191 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:08,040 » We're going to buy the building. It's just uh 1192 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:11,920 » You don't want to pay 340. >> No, it's you can't make it work. 1193 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,880 I mean, that's like >> And I don't think they want a Richie 1194 01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:18,040 deal for 340. >> take your one 1195 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:21,120 » 25. This is kind of holding >> Well, and that's why I asked the 1196 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:24,800 question tonight and I to be fair, that's 1197 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:28,600 crazy not to write it that an offer. I mean, you should know that as an agent. 1198 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,760 » Well, and I would say this to the five of you. 1199 01:16:28,983 --> 01:16:33,640 » [snorts] >> Hang on. 1200 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:36,920 » You want to see the answers? >> What? Yeah. 1201 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:41,680 Hey. >> We need the trailer on Long Street and 1202 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:45,240 the big big truck off Long Street. I'm out. 1203 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:47,440 I'm out of town for a now, so >> Okay. 1204 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,120 » I know 1205 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,000 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 1206 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,400 » So 1207 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,640 » The one thing I would say to the 1208 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,280 Because you guys 1209 01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:42,840 you guys are in a position to relatively control what happens 1210 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:48,000 Because does their purchase agreement say 1211 01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:50,480 Is the the purchase agreement is not contingent upon the zoning change? 1212 01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:53,360 That's likely true at least to what we're hearing. 1213 01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:57,000 But a purchase agreement's effectiveness is only based on someone's willingness 1214 01:17:55,240 --> 01:18:01,520 to sue over it. And is Pace going to go you know, 1215 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:05,400 squeeze the juice and and go >> But they're already talking about how 1216 01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:08,880 they're strapped for money. >> But I think that the zoning controls 1217 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:12,520 this whole conversation. >> I don't think they're tied to any of it. 1218 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:16,840 » I Well, and and I think I think that's probably true. And I will say that 1219 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:20,120 I've said this privately to a couple of you 1220 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:24,160 that I think that even if daycare fails, whether it's us or somebody else if you 1221 01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:28,800 guys rezone this I think we'll regret it years from now. 1222 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:33,920 » Well, I I do I think all of us will have the same idea. If we can't 1223 01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:38,560 get a daycare are we killing a deal and watching it 1224 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:41,680 rot to the ground. Because 1225 01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:44,080 if nobody is going to use it, that's his way. 1226 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,560 » Well, do >> I believe 1227 01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:53,480 » reconfiguration of everything in there is all 1228 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,920 without tearing it >> What did you say? 1229 01:18:54,440 --> 01:19:01,520 » I was just going to say that they would have the like basis mind is on that 1230 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,520 that 1231 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:06,520 that >> Yeah. 1232 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:09,680 » If that is an impossibility they would sell it for something less 1233 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:15,040 than what I mean they're they're not going to operate it no matter what. So 1234 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,040 great reward 1235 01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:22,080 sale for 300 or quarter million taking that's going to sell for something 1236 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:24,840 rather than you know uh and if people are living there or doing 1237 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,160 whatever they do with it. >> Would they make an offer? 1238 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:30,520 » Would you make an offer? >> Even if you weren't going to put daycare 1239 01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,920 in there, you could make it where you could make it 1240 01:19:31,480 --> 01:19:36,320 » a residence >> I mean 1241 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,320 » turn into a residence 1242 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,520 » Whether he would or not, I doubt he would. 1243 01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:43,960 » But uh 1244 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:48,720 No, I mean it I I think the conversation starts at Pace and then whoever there's 1245 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:54,160 is held to I'll be glad to talk to 1246 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:58,000 » Well, they have to enrich and can't is not going to give them 340,000 1247 01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,640 before they're interested in talking to anybody 1248 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,560 » Yeah, I'm not sure. >> I mean or at least 1249 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,240 Cuz they're not >> They're not 1250 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:08,240 » They're not going to lower the price yet. 1251 01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,640 » to help community >> Well 1252 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:16,440 » They just up their butt up and took off. >> But I will tell you that 1253 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:21,280 when I became aware of the Josh, I'm sitting in her phone. 1254 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:24,400 Um when I became aware of an offer I previously did talk to the president 1255 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:28,760 of their They said Tuesday he had said 1256 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:32,280 I seem to remember telling you before you guys were taking a break 1257 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:36,880 something like private that you would call 1258 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,880 And I said, no. What? 1259 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:42,440 telling you you stand here sometime ago. I don't know what she 1260 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,520 but I was really really bothered by the fact that 1261 01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,920 I felt like they had the and they have clearly have 1262 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:53,160 the authority to sell it because it's theirs. 1263 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:53,160 Nobody was thinking about tomorrow or 1264 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:59,280 or the consideration of the fact that it's been for this year. 1265 01:20:57,535 --> 01:21:03,840 » [clears throat] >> And 1266 01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:08,000 if if somebody told me that the proposed use is going to be something other than 1267 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:12,800 what we've already talked about, it would maybe my my discussion 1268 01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:17,400 but I am convinced beyond any doubt that reason is not the right answer based on 1269 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,400 what we know. 1270 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:24,600 I bet that if we get a if we get a bunch of 1271 01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,600 members of the of the taxing 1272 01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:31,040 I speak from experience when I sold my building up here and we 1273 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:35,160 talked about it with you guys, too. 1274 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:40,720 And that's the problem they had when they did that. We were in that zone. We 1275 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:45,680 had some zoning in there for a grocery store. Okay? 1276 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:49,560 And we wanted to change it 1277 01:21:47,480 --> 01:21:54,880 to put apartments in there. But then it cost by the time we got the 1278 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:57,200 fire we got because you could have it with the grocery but you couldn't have 1279 01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:00,680 it with you couldn't have it with the with 1280 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:04,560 apartments with with the house. So the time we got that, it was just 1281 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:08,080 unbelievable and I mean I had an architect, we worked on everywhere we 1282 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:13,080 could, there was no way we could do that. So then we sold it to the church. 1283 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:16,440 Our partial came in it cost them 1284 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:18,880 fortune to get through that. Put it up. 1285 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:23,400 And then they said, "Well, the other churches don't 1286 01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:23,400 They grandfathered 1287 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:28,360 So if you've got to be really really careful here, you can't say Well, we're 1288 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,200 going to put a bunch of apartments in there because I'll tell you from my 1289 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,720 experience >> Yeah. 1290 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,920 » And we had a we had a big man right behind you. 1291 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:39,440 It made our prices a lot fairer than it would be somewhere 1292 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:44,360 that don't have I don't know what they got down there as far as size. 1293 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:47,000 I'm going to kind of tell Whatever you decide 1294 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:51,400 Speaking >> Is there a 1295 01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:55,200 » Any fire suppression in there? >> There is a 1296 01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:59,480 alarm system. Yeah, but there's a 1297 01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:05,560 If the attendance is heat the alarm goes off and calls 911. I do 1298 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:08,160 not believe that there is actual Frank, listen 1299 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,840 I don't believe that >> He said more than I asked. 1300 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,840 » That's why I said >> I don't think there'd be any more. 1301 01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:19,160 » I can't guarantee I can't guarantee you a state certified 1302 01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:23,600 uh pre-K center. Cuz there is a lot of red 1303 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:29,720 tape to go through now. What I can guarantee is a privately held day 1304 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,720 and actually 1305 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,600 » She sure made it sound horrible, didn't she? 1306 01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,560 » It it well >> I mean 1307 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:42,520 » But nobody could have burned >> burned that horse. 1308 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:47,040 » And it's difficult, but you don't have to. If I mean you have to you're going 1309 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:49,200 to take vouchers. And 1310 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,920 » That's that's child care money that the government had recently got from the 1311 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,120 government state budget committee to get. That's what he's talking about with 1312 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:58,400 the vouchers. >> Now 1313 01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:02,880 A lot cuz cuz my wife and I talked about this where she was in she's those who 1314 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:05,840 work in child development and all that. There were some of the rules and 1315 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:09,880 regulations that Ty talked about that aren't accurate. 1316 01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:13,520 But what he said it depends on what happened. 1317 01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:16,003 And like my I'm trying to give you the best example 1318 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,440 of one you could could think of. >> [clears throat] 1319 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:23,800 » My son was home. 1320 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,800 I had daycare in her house. 1321 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:31,960 Fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. Five days a week. 1322 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:35,160 She got money from S S I for for food and stuff like that. But she had to do a 1323 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:37,720 lot of stuff 1324 01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:47,000 stuff. And that's why C S R C has generally made the statement that 1325 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:49,440 it's hard for them because they they they say they lose them for 1326 01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,920 that. They just divide that stuff inside 1327 01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:55,440 there. Inside their universe. 1328 01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:57,960 But they are state certified. They do a lot of stuff. They get the bathroom. 1329 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:03,000 They do a lot of stuff. >> Benefits, payroll, everything's 1330 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:06,240 different with a larger corporation. >> I just feel like 1331 01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:21,800 I I just feel like even if 1332 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:24,800 I was trying I was trying to call Regions today. 1333 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:29,840 Regions can't set up an office and they told me everything they said here now 1334 01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:32,880 about arrested and they get 1335 01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:37,520 tossed out of here. That's probably all true. 1336 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:41,440 But I feel like that if that place becomes migrant 1337 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:45,240 housing, it's going to go over and get like 1338 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,240 regardless 1339 01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:51,720 Everything they made in here about the current migrants that are 1340 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,720 housed in Regions has 1341 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:55,600 are true. Because 1342 01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:59,320 as far as I can tell, law enforcement generally interact with 38 1343 01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:02,360 and it's different. It is it's not the same 1344 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:06,000 thing. >> If I don't put 38 of my 1345 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:08,920 my family members in one building, there's going to be issues. 1346 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:14,600 » But that's >> That's 100 square foot per per person. 1347 01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,600 One. 1348 01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:19,960 Dorm style, which is I get that. 1349 01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:22,560 But you're not that facility the square footage 1350 01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:27,600 So, you're not calculating kitchen, 1351 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:31,240 Now, all of a sudden we're 60 60 square feet. 1352 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:34,440 Now, I can >> Well, they're going to have to have a 1353 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:36,800 fire suppression and all that. >> I know. 1354 01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:39,600 » And how are you going to fit eight people in there? 1355 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:43,120 » I I I don't know. 1356 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:47,760 I I I don't My running hands are so small. 1357 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:51,080 » And he has no idea how they have eight people 1358 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,080 in a house 1359 01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:54,480 According to the rules 1360 01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:59,840 And he's got to have a fire job. >> It's It's 1361 01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:02,880 » I mean, that's not how it works. >> If that building said 1362 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:07,200 » And you told me Of course, if he's only allowed so many people, we wouldn't be 1363 01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:10,400 talking about this. And you said it was going to be here and it was uptown, they 1364 01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:13,320 could walk to the highway and all that, maybe. 1365 01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:16,720 That is as far into a residential neighborhood 1366 01:27:14,440 --> 01:27:19,720 as you can get. You need to meet me halfway. 1367 01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:24,560 If I want to Right here, too. 1368 01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:27,080 I passed some single family residences. And they're going to be 1369 01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,040 And this is Some of the same issue, but they're 1370 01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:32,400 going to be up and down all day all the time. 1371 01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:35,680 They're going to They're going walk up I mean, you have 1372 01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:38,960 40 or 30 something people walking back and forth to the grocery every store or 1373 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:43,640 whatever. They're going to go out there I mean, it's not innocent 1374 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:46,760 » They will like he's when you think about that 1375 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:51,960 there's no other room in that place to sleep. And that's like their 1376 01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:54,720 Their their common areas are going to be outside. They have to be. 1377 01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:59,120 They're going to be sleeping enough on the floor. 1378 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,600 If it didn't have to be 100 square 1379 01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:08,040 That's what it is, though. So, because That guy is just a You got to subtract 1380 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:11,600 out, like you said, the kitchens, the bathrooms, and the 1381 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:14,440 And and the bunk space, there's just not a lot of 1382 01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,040 but yeah >> You're forgetting all that other space. 1383 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,760 » I'm not forgetting. >> Well, I'm not. I'm just saying 1384 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:23,080 » I watched it. >> You can put 10 and 12 1385 01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,600 » What do you have? 35 by the 3800 >> Okay, that's 100 1386 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:29,680 » 10 >> 3800 like that. And so 1387 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:34,080 » This is how I calculate >> My whole point is if you use Well, if 1388 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:36,560 you use the place down for me The place will 1389 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:40,320 commune after they get done. >> Is that on the front porch? 1390 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:42,160 » It is not bad. I'll get them on it. She gets the point. 1391 01:28:41,480 --> 01:28:43,480 » I don't know. >> Mhm. 1392 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:46,360 » Is that probably >> Well, it's nice out when they're when 1393 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:49,680 those guys are here, we're working. It's It's 1394 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:53,920 » It's like it is outside right now. >> You know 1395 01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:57,320 » playgrounds like that. >> I mean I I I I I 1396 01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:59,480 » I just feel like it's >> I do. 1397 01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:02,840 I feel like it's the wrong way. >> Now, do I Am I going to sit here and act 1398 01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,800 like I got a solution if the daycare fails and 1399 01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,360 » Yeah. >> I don't. 1400 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:09,240 » Well, I mean that guy I left you guys here thinking 1401 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:15,480 it's very unlikely that a daycare is going to happen there. 1402 01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:18,560 If he sits still for 60 days he has a chance of 1403 01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:22,120 doing what he wants to do. That's the 1404 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:24,840 » Good thing The next question is I have 1405 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:29,280 paid. Well, they already have that first year. 1406 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:32,640 Now, is he going to go after them? Because he has the right to. 1407 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,960 » Well, yes, but if no one's going to let him 1408 01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:38,440 do what he wants to do, why would he want to buy it? 1409 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,440 » Right. 1410 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:43,320 » But >> And I would find 1411 01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:47,160 part of the zoning >> process requires two additional steps. 1412 01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,760 They require public hearings. One is in front of the area planning commission. 1413 01:29:48,747 --> 01:29:51,640 » [snorts] >> Which if you guys have don't formally 1414 01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:57,160 refer to the area planning commission, that doesn't happen yet. And the final 1415 01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:59,560 step is the last thing that ordinance. Which requires a public hearing 1416 01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:04,600 to appear. So, I mean we've not heard from 1417 01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:09,040 » I mean area plans could say no. Area plans could say yes, and then a bunch of 1418 01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:12,000 people come in here and yell at And you guys 1419 01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:14,720 still say no. You guys can say no. 1420 01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:19,000 Um But I'm sorry. From his perspective, 1421 01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:23,280 from her perspective, you know, why does he 1422 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:27,360 want to pay Drew go to area plans, and why does he want 1423 01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:30,120 to do all that, you know, like And why does he want to stir everybody 1424 01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:34,160 up if if you know now you're not going to 1425 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,920 That's I think that's what I said. He doesn't want to be sold No, but he and 1426 01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:40,880 Drew would just as well rather hear no tonight [music] than in two months. 1427 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:44,080 » But you know, why in the hell would you pay $341? 1428 01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:50,360 You build that. I don't understand that. And then I'm built 1429 01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:53,520 And when I asked him I didn't offer him that. I didn't offer him that. You 1430 01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:55,680 didn't tell him How many thousand square foot? 1431 01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:02,920 It's all 30,000 square foot. What do you What do you do with this one? 1432 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:07,400 30 Yeah, 30,000 square 1433 01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:09,160 30 Between 30 and 35, called You can make appointments out of it like you 1434 01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,360 would a doctor. I mean, it's just a basic It's your 1435 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:15,600 building. This is an open building. 1436 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:17,960 But I've got It's not really large really. 1437 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:21,440 Cuz it's got hallways and stuff to get to the classrooms and I don't mean it's 1438 01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:26,360 not as open as you think it is. But why is it not like your new city 1439 01:31:23,480 --> 01:31:31,000 hall? 70 October Look, it's 70. It's double that. 1440 01:31:29,480 --> 01:31:35,320 Which one would you put? 30 or would you put 35? No, it's 30. I don't know. 1441 01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,320 That's 1442 01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:43,120 We got some I'd say 30 38 if anything. 1443 01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:45,960 in a building. And this issue I said yes. 1444 01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:50,120 No matter what they are. There's a reason that you put multi-story, 1445 01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:52,960 multi-unit housing together in the same zone area. Like if you go to 1446 01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:55,760 Indianapolis, the reason all those things are together like that. You don't 1447 01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:58,120 put them in You don't drop them in the middle of a 1448 01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:00,720 subdivision out there by the lake somewhere. 1449 01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,720 Thank you. I'll report back on that comment. I'll 1450 01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,880 be here. >> Yeah, I hate to say this but my health 1451 01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:11,320 is not going to be able to let me stay in this long if we keep on this 1452 01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:13,480 same thing. >> Have you done everything else? 1453 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:17,360 » Yeah, I did. >> That's That's what I'm wondering. 1454 01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:20,880 Is there anything else we can handle a little bit quicker so you can go back to 1455 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:23,960 that if you'd like? >> The stand pipe. 1456 01:32:22,440 --> 01:32:26,760 » Have you heard back from the auctioneer? >> Still no. 1457 01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:30,760 » They thought they had them. >> Still no. 1458 01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:33,200 » Uh so John Craig on our meeting already had mentioned it. 1459 01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:35,640 I talked to him. I have not heard back back from him. He 1460 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:40,280 told me if I called him back really quick he would have made it. If I don't 1461 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:44,680 he didn't. I need to follow up on I haven't forgot. I also haven't forgot 1462 01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:47,640 about city hall. Uh the consultant needed 1463 01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:51,320 some more up-to-date numbers from Don which which I have. We can continue this 1464 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:54,440 stuff. I have to have the authorized maximum borrowing amount. 1465 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:58,640 We want to make sure we have that number. The numbers are close. 1466 01:32:56,360 --> 01:33:04,400 Uh Larry is showing that it's the birth of it is wildly because cost 1467 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:08,440 looks stupid right now. He's He's got it between the main and 1468 01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:11,560 then two three three the worst. That's not That's 1469 01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:16,080 everything. That's the That's all the lawyer, the the city work and all that. 1470 01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:18,000 That I mean that's the whole issue. So Uh 1471 01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:21,520 I haven't forgot what I wanted to say. >> Mayor, I I I got to interject and tell 1472 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:24,800 you I know I know a lot of 1473 01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:27,920 positive feedback about people who want to take this project on without the 1474 01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:31,960 public. People I talked to 1475 01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:35,600 text messages and stuff I get people I don't know who you're here talking to 1476 01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:40,840 but they're not happy. I'll say I see both sides. 1477 01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:40,840 Um 1478 01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:48,640 I understand that this building obviously has issues. 1479 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:52,080 I understand that a handicapped person you know, wheelchair for example, 1480 01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:56,200 can't go to the restroom here if they come to one of the meetings. 1481 01:33:54,160 --> 01:34:00,760 I understand that something else that 1482 01:33:58,480 --> 01:34:03,440 I mean, what's this going to do to people's property? 1483 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:06,040 » That's nothing. Because we're not going to use it as a 1484 01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:10,680 » And I I know you had an option there was an option in that that email you sent. 1485 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,440 And but I hadn't directly asked you at that 1486 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:15,840 specific direction. >> We're looking at this as a all in all 1487 01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:18,080 revenue pledge which means we can use any revenue 1488 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,600 available to the city whether it's income tax, existing property tax or 1489 01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:24,720 there's there is not going to be a new property 1490 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:29,240 tax levied on this to pay for it. We got to drive up to the solid waste 1491 01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:32,280 We could look at being able to pledge any our revenue making 1492 01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:35,080 So the property tax thing is a non-issue now. It really wasn't an issue to begin 1493 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,960 with but obviously we hadn't talked talked about 1494 01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:41,200 it about that. And really even before that Donnie when 1495 01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:43,880 we were talking about the property tax before a bunch of people weren't going 1496 01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:48,120 to see an increase anyway because there are tax caps. So this idea that folks 1497 01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,960 were going to see some outrageous increase in property tax wasn't true. 1498 01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:54,440 » Well, there's a lot of the 1499 01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:59,240 the propaganda machine out here. as well. But I'm I'm saying that 1500 01:34:56,640 --> 01:35:04,800 and and those that may be partaking in it and you know 1501 01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:09,440 but I didn't we hadn't discussed directly discussed with me that that the 1502 01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:12,520 option you were looking to go go through what you just said. 1503 01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:15,200 » the cleanest and the easiest Yeah, that's right. 1504 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:17,880 » the cleanest and the Well, I'm glad to know that's what 1505 01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:20,040 you're thinking. >> May it's still not that that much of a 1506 01:35:19,480 --> 01:35:24,320 building. >> I don't disagree with any of that. 1507 01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:26,240 » Yeah, yeah, totally. >> Well, that's what 1508 01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,960 » What are you going to have when you get done with this? 1509 01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:33,400 » That's what George I mean if you can take care of it as 1510 01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:37,280 soon as we take care of it as soon as we Canada as the next our next right step. 1511 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:40,840 You can build a half >> They're going to give you 130 for wood 1512 01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:43,360 for free. >> Why is it that 1513 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:47,480 » costly? Yeah, it's somewhere between $170 and 1514 01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:50,160 $200 a square foot for commercial finished space. 1515 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:55,480 » I mean you You know 1516 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:59,240 You know something that I don't? Say it now. 1517 01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:17,360 And they charge you to tell you that. 1518 01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,480 Hold on. 1519 01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:35,120 So it's So it's Yeah. 1520 01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:45,880 The times four, ain't that 800,000? And I'm I mean, you put a lot of 1521 01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:49,560 cabinets and cooking stuff in the house. I don't understand this is a 1522 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,000 I mean, it looks to me 1523 01:36:55,320 --> 01:37:02,840 2,000 square foot house, you can have this and you got 1524 01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:07,480 walls and stuff in the house 200,000, right? For 2,000 square feet. 1525 01:37:06,440 --> 01:37:10,200 So How do you know that 1526 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,560 You can do it. You just sold one. 1527 01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,760 Mayor, can you say you had 1528 01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:29,040 Uh so I've got to go back to the RDC next month to see what they're going to 1529 01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,040 do. 1530 01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:45,720 You You know, like but I mean, that's 1531 01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:49,720 That number would be a million. Commercial building, I think, you know, 1532 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:52,480 a million and a half stuck in my head that 1533 01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:54,400 That seemed like he built a lot of buildings. 1534 01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:57,000 » Yeah. >> Then he 1535 01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:59,040 come up with 2 million tonight like it ain't nothing. 1536 01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:01,640 » Well, some of that he's Some of that's got figured in for Cyborg. 1537 01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,040 » The >> The consultant and bond counsel 1538 01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,520 » That is >> Look at Look at Look at what the 1539 01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,680 Look at what we wouldn't have in their place. 1540 01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:10,760 » There is a smaller than what you're talking of. 1541 01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:11,960 » Yeah, they were over a million in that one. 1542 01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:16,360 » They were. >> And they paid the hell out of it sitting 1543 01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,360 there 3 years. 1544 01:38:16,440 --> 01:38:19,440 » Yeah, yeah. >> They was up on the roof and not drop 1545 01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:22,160 them You ever seen anything like 1546 01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:27,640 » So, you're you're talking about something that 1547 01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:28,680 through existing money 1548 01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,600 » Yes. >> Which would 1549 01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:35,120 » cut that into any matching grants we may get. 1550 01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,120 » Oh. 1551 01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:42,560 If I don't want to I don't want it to a point where we roads forget cutting into 1552 01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:46,200 East 4th Street down here. That's going to be some money. 1553 01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:51,800 I don't want to ruin that ability. Right now, we're in good financial shape. 1554 01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:57,720 We can handle whatever comes up. We can accept any grant that we can 1555 01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:02,280 be awarded. Use matching 1556 01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:02,280 I don't want to give all that up. 1557 01:39:02,440 --> 01:39:05,800 » I'll just second that. 1558 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:11,800 Um maybe we look at it and I don't know, maybe 1559 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:14,200 Is anybody talking about Grapevine Crossing? 1560 01:39:13,363 --> 01:39:15,760 » [laughter] >> That's why you laugh. 1561 01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,360 » But that's >> I I don't know if 1562 01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:20,280 » We need that. We need a >> I don't know if I want City Hall to be 1563 01:39:19,440 --> 01:39:22,360 in a barn. >> Huh? 1564 01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:25,680 » You guys want City Hall to be in a barn? >> A barn would make most of them happy. 1565 01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:29,560 » Yeah. >> I mean, Wylie's in a barn. Wylie's in a 1566 01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:34,680 big barn, I mean. >> No, but that's what you're having now. 1567 01:39:31,480 --> 01:39:36,560 » No, it's a nice place for 300,000. >> Huh? 1568 01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:40,120 » If you're having a big barn >> for 300,000. 1569 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:43,880 » The problem with this process is the fact that all the 1570 01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:46,320 Like the reason the street department was easy we had the cash, we had side 1571 01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:49,240 and didn't have to talk to the >> It's all those lawyers around by us. 1572 01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:52,720 » The problem is having having to borrow the money to finance the thing. 1573 01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:55,120 » That's where the surprises are. >> Cuz if you get rid of the bond counsel 1574 01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:57,520 and get rid of the consultant and all those people, like I just saved a 1575 01:39:56,480 --> 01:40:00,480 million dollars and I didn't have to try. 1576 01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:02,440 » A half a million? >> Are you Are you exaggerating right here? 1577 01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,960 » No. >> Okay. 1578 01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:08,360 » No. Cuz you're talking about 1579 01:40:06,440 --> 01:40:10,200 We All and I'm talking about those soft costs. 1580 01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:12,080 » The the >> debt debt issuance 1581 01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,640 » which >> fee to have the debt issue like 30,000 1582 01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:18,160 dollars. >> The bond counsel 1583 01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:20,080 » uh which is probably another 15 or 20, the consultant 1584 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:22,160 » It's probably It's more than that on the front end. 1585 01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:26,200 » It's probably more than that. Let me just go get the sheet. 1586 01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:28,880 I'm kind of doing this off my off of what I remember. 1587 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:36,280 He charged you a lot of your money in there. 1588 01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:40,120 » Yeah. >> The only one here he had for me 1589 01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:45,520 He's got side work on here between >> between 135 and 150. I don't know that 1590 01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:50,320 necessarily means that. >> But he had the general work description 1591 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:53,760 » between a million seven and 2.1, which is a pretty wide which is a pretty wide 1592 01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:59,240 berth. >> I need that job. 1593 01:40:55,600 --> 01:41:02,760 » State permitting fee between 1,800 He's also got a 35,000 dollar 1594 01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:07,600 contingency in here. The architect and engineering fees 1595 01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:11,400 between seven eight I got him to 50. that difference for his bond counsel 1596 01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:15,960 that salt water additional legal fee of 35 and 40 4,500, 1597 01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:19,880 renderings uh and then that gets you between a 1598 01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,880 million nine and 1599 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,800 » Yeah. >> You're really exaggerating right here. 1600 01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:27,080 » A half a million dollars. >> But if we don't have 1601 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:29,960 » to issue any debt >> Yeah. 1602 01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:32,800 » That's what it is. Like if I had If I had a million five cash 1603 01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:36,840 » cash today, we wouldn't have to talk to anybody. We could do it tomorrow. It's 1604 01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:41,000 because we have to borrow the money. That's what the problem is. And the 1605 01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:43,800 statute required a specific process for us to borrow money. 1606 01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:57,480 » And to your point, I don't disagree with what you're saying. Because I've I've 1607 01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:01,600 run that through my through my head a few I don't disagree 1608 01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,600 with that. 1609 01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:11,320 Yeah, and it will happen. 1610 01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:17,080 I don't want to give up your your concerns. 1611 01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:25,760 I'm not I'm not disagreeing 1612 01:42:28,555 --> 01:42:30,575 » [clears throat] 1613 01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:42,280 » But I I think those are all all It is No, you're you're not lying, but 1614 01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,280 it is tough, which 1615 01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:47,520 using an example 1616 01:42:52,791 --> 01:42:56,640 » [laughter] >> That's a That's a great example. 1617 01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:20,680 I don't want to give up on it, but I also I get it. 1618 01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:23,840 Why? >> I'm not I'm not 1619 01:43:24,440 --> 01:43:32,040 » 1.9 2.2 and a half tasted better 1620 01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:34,520 Yeah, it does. And I don't want to look at Larry and 1621 01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:38,400 say I know what he's talking about. He's been 1622 01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,400 » I'm sure he does. 1623 01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,200 » Good luck. 1624 01:44:27,767 --> 01:44:33,200 » [laughter] >> Yo. 1625 01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:33,200 » That's all that thing's good for. 1626 01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:10,360 » I remember when he helped us win a sectional, buddy. 1627 01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:18,960 » Yes, sir. Good old Good old days.