1 00:00:02,159 --> 00:00:11,360 All right. Uh we are now in the public hearing portion of our council meeting. 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:17,440 So this is uh public hearing for bylaw 15-25 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:21,600 uh MD big horn and town of Canmore IDP amendment. 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:25,800 Can I please get a motion to open the public hearing for bylaw 15-25? 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:33,920 Uh councelor Smith has that. All in favor? Thank you. Motion is passed. I 6 00:00:31,519 --> 00:00:38,000 want to welcome everyone uh here today. Public hearing procedure sheets have 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:43,760 been being provided in the agenda center on the MD's website. Pursuant to bylaw 8 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:49,780 11-25, an amendment to the procedural bylaw, the public may now also attend 9 00:00:46,239 --> 00:00:52,239 public hearings via Microsoft Teams. [clears throat] 10 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:57,440 Instructions were provided on the public notices posted in the newspapers as well 11 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:01,600 as the MD's website. If you are attending by Microsoft Teams while 12 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:05,439 listening to the presentations, your microphones must be muted. If you wish 13 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,799 to speak, you must raise your virtual hand and wait until you are called upon. 14 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:13,119 Then you can activate your microphone and your camera must be turned on. This 15 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:17,040 public hearing is being held to hear proposed bylaw 15-25 16 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:21,200 being a bylaw to amend the intermunicipal development plan for the 17 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:25,040 town of Canmore and the municipal district of Bigor number 8 in accordance 18 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:30,799 with the municipal government act chapter M-26 19 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:34,479 RSA 2000 as amended. In a public hearing, council must hear from any 20 00:01:32,479 --> 00:01:38,159 person, group of persons, or person representing them who claims to be 21 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:42,880 affected by the proposed bylaw or resolution and who has complied with the 22 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:46,880 procedures outlined by council. I may also hear from any other person who 23 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:50,799 wishes to make representations and whom council agrees to hear. There are a few 24 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:54,720 housekeeping items I would like to go over. If you will be speaking tonight, 25 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:59,280 please make sure to start by stating your name. Uh please make sure your 26 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:03,200 phone is silenced and just letting everybody know that this meeting is 27 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:07,040 being livereamed on YouTube and a recording of the stream is available for 28 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:10,879 future viewing. Administration will introduce the 29 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:15,920 proposed bylaw. Counselors will then be given the opportunity to ask questions 30 00:02:12,959 --> 00:02:20,239 of administration. Uh the applicant which is usually 31 00:02:18,861 --> 00:02:24,400 [laughter] we don't have an applicant to speak. 32 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:29,599 Councilors will be given an opportunity to ask questions of administration. We 33 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:33,840 will then hear from the public wishing to speak in favor, in opposition, or 34 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:37,519 with a neutral position of proposed bylaw 15-25, 35 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:42,160 starting with the public present in the room, followed by the public wishing to 36 00:02:39,519 --> 00:02:45,519 speak via Microsoft Teams. Whether speaking in favor, opposition, or 37 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,200 neutral, people speaking on their own behalf may speak for a maximum of five 38 00:02:47,519 --> 00:02:53,440 minutes. People speaking as a spokesperson for a group or petition may 39 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:56,879 speak for a maximum of 10 minutes. Counselors will be given an opportunity 40 00:02:54,959 --> 00:03:01,040 to ask questions after each speaker concludes. At no time will disrespectful 41 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:04,959 comments or questioning of anyone's integrity be allowed. Council is then 42 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:09,200 provided a last opportunity to ask relevant questions of administration on 43 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:13,040 the proposed bylaw and then the public hearing will be closed. I will remind 44 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:17,040 everyone that once the public hearing is closed, no further oral or written 45 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:22,000 submissions will be received on proposed bylaw 15-25. 46 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:26,360 May we now have the introduction of the proposed bylaw from MD administration. 47 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:34,560 Thank you. Um I'm here today to present uh bylaw 1525, Jenny Caspar. It's 48 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:39,120 manager of planning and development services. Uh so this is the town of 49 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:42,560 Canmore and the MD of Big Horn uh intermunicipal development plan 50 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:48,319 amendment. So in February and March of 2020 um the 51 00:03:46,239 --> 00:03:52,640 town of Canmore and the MD of Big Horn uh adopted the intermunicipal 52 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:58,239 development plan. Uh at the MD it was under bylaw 209. 53 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:02,959 So the purpose of the uh intermunicipal development plan is to guide land use uh 54 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:06,879 planning on lands bordering uh both municipalities. 55 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:11,360 So focus areas include environmental consideration, utility servicing, 56 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:16,639 transportation corridors, and future land use. And also it includes a 57 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:21,919 collaboration framework, so referral and decision-making processes and dispute 58 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:26,639 resolution. Section 631 of the municipal government 59 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:32,479 act uh outlines the requirements for preparing and amending uh an IDP. 60 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:37,199 uh it is a statutory document which must be uh adopted by bylaw and a public 61 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:44,960 hearing must be held in accordance with section uh 692 of the MGA. 62 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:49,040 So the intermunicial intermunicipal committee committee is a formal body 63 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:52,400 which is established to oversee collaboration between the 64 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:58,160 municipalities. uh it consists of representatives from 65 00:04:54,400 --> 00:05:04,240 both town of Canmore and MD of Big Horn and it meets regularly to review all 66 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:10,320 agreements between the town and the MD. So at the uh at a recent meeting uh they 67 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:15,039 identified several updates uh for the intermunicipal development plan. The 68 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:19,840 first update being a update to figure one which is the overview map. The 69 00:05:17,919 --> 00:05:26,560 second is the addition of figure three which shows the IDP plan areas and the 70 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:33,199 third being um requested separately by the town administration uh which was a 71 00:05:29,039 --> 00:05:37,639 text amendment to section 1.4 plan goals and that was to add the word facilities. 72 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:44,240 The figure one overview map is here. On the left hand side, you'll see the 73 00:05:42,479 --> 00:05:48,400 current map. And on the right hand side, you'll see the amended map showing the 74 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:54,320 area south of Highway 1A as the additional uh IDP area that was added 75 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:59,039 and referral area. And this is uh figure three, which is map two, which is the 76 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:05,199 new map showing that area south of Highway 1A. So the pink area shows the 77 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:09,639 notification area and the yellow area shows the the plan area. 78 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:19,919 The text amendment in section 1.4 uh is shown in red text below. So I'll read 79 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:24,880 out uh section 1.4. So uh it is to ensure long-term compatibility of future 80 00:06:22,479 --> 00:06:29,360 land use within both municipalities. That includes the consideration of 81 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:34,080 transportation corridors and facilities, steep creeks and other waterways, 82 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:41,160 resource extraction activities, utility corridors, historic resources, and 83 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:41,160 environmental matters within the area. 84 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:49,520 So, the bylaw was circulated um to various internal and external 85 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:53,800 departments for comment, and that was a 30-day circulation period. 86 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:08,560 Um and it was also advertised for two consecutive weeks as per the municipal 87 00:07:07,039 --> 00:07:13,360 government act in the Rocky Mountain outlook, the Cochran Eagle and the 88 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:19,120 Albertan newspapers. Uh, so it was also posted on the MDFA court website and 89 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:24,479 social media platform and we did receive one public hearing submission received 90 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:28,720 prior to the submission deadline um containing questions or concerns and 91 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:34,160 that submission was including in included in the council package. Um, as 92 00:07:31,919 --> 00:07:38,240 a brief summary, the submission had several questions outlining 93 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:42,560 clarification on why these specific areas were included in the IDP 94 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:46,960 amendment. questions regarding the public engagement process and 95 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:53,240 leaseholder involvement in the IDP process. So as I mentioned the full 96 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:53,240 letter is in the council package. 97 00:07:54,400 --> 00:08:00,599 Uh that concludes the presentation and I am available for questions. 98 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:10,919 Thank you. Are there any questions for administration? 99 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:10,919 Go ahead deputy reef. 100 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:19,440 So [clears throat] I'm looking at the text section and just just have a quick 101 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:27,120 question when I read it the first time and if you leave out the facilities it 102 00:08:23,599 --> 00:08:30,879 talks about corridors, steep creeks, waterways, 103 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:37,279 resource extraction, utility corridors, historic resources, 104 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:44,800 environmental matters within an area. It kind of gives you the image of 105 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:51,680 a place um places like corridors, features, geographic features 106 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:58,399 um and yet we're adding facilities. So how does that adding facilities from a 107 00:08:55,680 --> 00:09:01,399 municipality's point of view change things? 108 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:20,640 Yeah. Through through the reef to councelor Tuza. Um it's it's kind of a 109 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:25,040 catchall for any development that could be considered in that area. So as it 110 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:29,040 stands, transportation corridors and facilities. So that can include any sort 111 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:33,720 of buildings or developments in that area. Okay. 112 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,720 » Thank you. 113 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:45,680 Thank you. Um just to build off of that, um 114 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:50,839 like how is facilities defined? I I don't know that uh 115 00:09:51,440 --> 00:10:00,000 where where did this come from? This was uh recommended by town of Canmore 116 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:03,519 administration as an addition to the um IDP. 117 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:07,720 And I don't believe facilities is defined, but I can check the document. 118 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:40,839 through the reve I don't see a definition in the document okay 119 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,519 I'm not sure 120 00:10:55,360 --> 00:11:02,880 where that came from. Go ahead, Deputy Real. 121 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:11,600 Would it be fair to say that the changes we're seeing here today um speak to 122 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:17,720 notification of the municipalities when development takes place in the 123 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,720 highlighted areas 124 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:25,440 » through the reef? That is correct. Um the changes you see today are including 125 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:32,480 that area in the IDP plan area and also in the referral area. So um this is to 126 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:36,640 capture any future development permit or area structure plan so on and so forth 127 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:42,240 applications within that area. They'd have to be circulated to the town of 128 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:47,279 Camar for comment. >> Thank you. 129 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:51,519 » And then I think we're copying each other's questions here. Uh my next 130 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:55,839 question is uh what differentiates between the plan area and the 131 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:59,279 notification area? I've always just thought this was more about 132 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:04,200 notification. What's the difference on the map 133 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:11,440 uh to the reap the plan area is where the development um could potentially 134 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:17,519 occur and the referral area is the referral um boundary. Um so similarly 135 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:22,800 around the hamlet of dead man's flats there's a plan area um which indicates 136 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:30,839 where um applications could be proposed and then the referral area is the uh 137 00:12:25,839 --> 00:12:30,839 larger area of circulation. 138 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Thank you. 139 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:46,519 There any other questions? 140 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:57,519 » Go ahead, councelor James. >> Um, yes, thank you. Um, 141 00:12:55,519 --> 00:13:04,240 I might be just overthinking of it. Thinking it, so I'm going to keep this 142 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:11,839 really basic. on page um on the figure three map two. Um could you please help 143 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:14,839 me understand what uh notification area means? 144 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:30,959 Um so the pink area would be notifying um any land owners within that pink area 145 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:37,399 of uh the any development proposed within the plan area. So that's the 146 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,399 referral boundary area. 147 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:48,800 Uh why would we not be referring to the other side of the highway when it's 148 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:56,600 adjacent lands? 149 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,600 Why would that area only 150 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:04,160 the plan area is adjacent to the highway? Why would we not be notifying 151 00:14:01,839 --> 00:14:07,160 on the other side of the highway as well? 152 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:28,000 So, so in this case if an application is received within that area we would 153 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:32,000 notify it is an IDP area. So notifications get sent between town of 154 00:14:30,079 --> 00:14:37,279 camour and empty of big form. So typically what happens is we would 155 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:41,920 notify the town um and then they would have their own circulation process and 156 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:46,639 list that they would follow. Um I'm going to also flip to that section of 157 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:50,199 the IDP um so that we can get more information on that. 158 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:39,040 So section three of the IDP goes over our application referral process. Um so 159 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:43,199 it is very specific. So the initiating municipality is the municipality that 160 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:48,320 has jurisdiction over the lands for which an application has been made. So 161 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:53,839 in this case the MD of big horn if it's within our boundaries we have 162 00:15:49,759 --> 00:15:57,519 jurisdiction over that uh application in responding the responding municipality 163 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:01,440 is the municipality that shares the boundary with the initiating 164 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:06,720 municipality. So all new area structure plans, 165 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:12,079 amendments to MDPs, a ASPs of the initiating municipality that may affect 166 00:16:09,199 --> 00:16:16,480 lands within the IDP plan area or notification area shall be circulated 167 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:21,279 for comment by the initiate initiating municipality to the land owners and 168 00:16:18,959 --> 00:16:27,279 responding municipalities administration as required in the MGA and as identified 169 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:32,399 in the initiating municipality statutory plan policies. It goes on to conceptual 170 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:36,320 schemes. So on all new conceptual schemes or amendments to conceptual 171 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:41,839 schemes, redistricting and subdivision applications within the IDP plan area of 172 00:16:39,279 --> 00:16:45,600 the initiated municipality shall be circulated for comment to land owners 173 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:49,120 and the responding municipalities administration. 174 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:56,000 uh where an application for a development permit for a discretionary 175 00:16:52,320 --> 00:17:00,079 use is received within the plan area uh and an area structure plan or area 176 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:04,720 redevelopment plan has not been approved, the application shall be 177 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:08,880 circulated by the initiated municipality for comment to the responding 178 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:15,439 municipalities administration. Um and then it goes on um to the 179 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:19,520 responding municipalities response um that it should focus on municipalities, 180 00:17:17,679 --> 00:17:26,640 infrastructure, roads, utilities, drainage, off-site impacts. Um so so 181 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:31,600 these are the parameters for the for the notifications in section 3.2 of the plan 182 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:37,120 area. So it does spell it out a lot better than just the map would. Um but 183 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:46,840 the main the main point being that they're adding this area to the IDP um 184 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,840 plan area and referral area. 185 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:55,480 » Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions for 186 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,480 administration? 187 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:08,720 Um, I had one more question just under page 513 bylaw 1525 referrals. There's 188 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:16,520 internal and external. Uh, was there a requirement to notify 189 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,520 the lease holders in the external 190 00:18:16,559 --> 00:18:24,280 division of this? Uh there is no requirement to notify lease holders 191 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:33,160 » is and that's from the MGA or how how do we know that 192 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:44,880 it's not identified in the IDP or in our in in MD of Acorn's land use bylaw. It's 193 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:48,960 also not not identified. Typically you would notify the land owners. In this 194 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:55,799 case, the land owner was notified being the province. Um, and then it's up to 195 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:55,799 them to notify their lease holders. 196 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:03,840 Okay. Thank you. Any other questions for 197 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:09,360 administration? Sorry. Go ahead, councelor. 198 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:15,440 » Thank you. through the reef questions about again I'm just 199 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:22,720 I don't want to dwell on this too much but the notification area you mentioned 200 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:27,679 that this was to notify if anything was to 201 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:36,240 happen on this area you mentioned to notify uh black days arc but it's 202 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:42,400 outside of this notification area um the area that is listed here says Bo 203 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:48,559 Valley Wildland Provincial Park. Is there any 204 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:51,880 dwellings, structures, residents in that area that 205 00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:03,039 » so through the reef to councelor Fitz Morris, there is a dwelling within the 206 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:08,000 yellow plan area but not in the provincial park. Okay. 207 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:19,559 clarification to dwellings. >> And you said uh 208 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,559 if anything 209 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:29,120 if a request comes in for discretionary uses, what about permitted uses do we 210 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:33,200 need to and what permitted uses are in that area 211 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:39,919 » through the reef to councelor Fitz Morris. Uh, the IDP section 3.2 only 212 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:43,840 references discretionary use. Uh, it doesn't reference permitted use, but I 213 00:20:41,919 --> 00:20:48,600 can look up permitted uses in that district if you bear with me one moment. 214 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,840 uh through the reef to councelor Fitz Morris. Uh the forestry district lists 215 00:21:26,159 --> 00:21:33,039 several permitted uses. So I'll read them out here. Accessory buildings, 216 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:39,120 extensive agriculture, farm structures, logging, parks, shipping containers, and 217 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:43,120 signs, fence, and freestanding signs. Uh and also list several discretionary 218 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:46,400 uses. Um so let me know if you'd want me to run through those as well 219 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:53,440 » please. Okay. So the um accessory uses 220 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:59,760 discretionary uses are um accessory uses aggregate extraction uh intensive 221 00:21:56,159 --> 00:22:05,360 agriculture airport private airirstrip bed and breakfast campground cemetery 222 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:10,640 community garden outfitting and guiding communication 223 00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:16,400 towers and facilities. Dwelling factory built dwelling single detached energy 224 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:20,960 cons energy generation system small environmental education facilities group 225 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:26,880 care facility horicultural operation industrial work 226 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:31,679 camp commercial kennel livestock log sorting and transportation staging area 227 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:37,120 natural resource extraction natural resource extraction facility addition 228 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:43,200 public utilities and buildings recreation facilities ities, recreation, 229 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:49,760 staging area, remote group facility, sawmill signs, so awning, canopy, 230 00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:53,880 fascia, projecting, roof and wall signs and waste transfer site. 231 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:04,679 That is quite a list for uh Wildland Provincial Park. Thank you. 232 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:14,400 Go ahead, councelor Morris. >> There was one letter received that was 233 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,880 noted had questions. Were there answers to these questions 234 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:25,120 » through the reef to councelor Fitz Morris? We do we have prepared answer to 235 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:29,760 answers to these questions which we can either provide now or during the um 236 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:34,679 administration questions at the end of the public um hearing process. 237 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,840 Why don't we do it now? We're here now. 238 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:48,120 » Is there a page number? >> No. 239 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:56,480 So the first question um was with regards to were there any sight specific 240 00:23:54,240 --> 00:24:00,000 considerations taken into account when including these parcels in the amended 241 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:05,120 IDP um such as use access or environmental 242 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:08,799 considerations. Uh so administration is not aware of any sight specific 243 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:15,279 considerations that were applied. However, um such considerations would 244 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:19,440 typically include legal access um and minimal topographic and environmental 245 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:24,320 constraints that could support future development potential of a parcel. Uh so 246 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:28,400 many of the lands bordering the empty of Big Horn and town of Camour are quite 247 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:36,320 restricted in terms of topography and access. Uh question two kind of uh flows 248 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:42,080 into that. Um oh sorry, question one. I I skipped down 249 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:45,919 question one was above that. So there was clarification on why these two 250 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:51,360 specific parcels were included and whether any other areas or parcels were 251 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:55,840 considered as part of this review. Uh the the comment goes on to mention um 252 00:24:53,919 --> 00:25:00,880 that the existing MD of Big Horn and Rocky View County IDP map which reflects 253 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:06,400 the broader uh boundarybased planning approach as compared to a sightspecific 254 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:10,559 one. Uh so the IDP intermunicipal committee um as I mentioned regularly 255 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:15,200 reviews all of the agreements between the MD of Big Horn and the town of 256 00:25:12,159 --> 00:25:20,400 Camour when they were reviewing the IDP. Uh they noted several changes and 257 00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:24,320 updates to the IDP. Administration doesn't have information regarding the 258 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:29,840 specific discussions that occurred at that IDP committee um meeting uh and 259 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:35,600 whether other parcels were considered in the update. Um should the amendments 260 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:40,320 under this bylaw 1525 be approved, the new area identified under figure 3 um 261 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:45,600 will adhere to the application referrals process outlined under section 3.2 of 262 00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:49,919 the IDP. So that was the section I I had read out regarding the different 263 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:57,279 referral uh processes for each type of application. Regarding the Rocky View 264 00:25:52,400 --> 00:26:01,120 County IDP, um the plan area, I I'm just um guessing, but it could be much larger 265 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:05,360 due to the limited topographical constraints in the area as well as more 266 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:09,120 privately owned lands in these areas leading to more development potential 267 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:15,200 for the lands. Um so that tied into the second question 268 00:26:12,159 --> 00:26:20,960 which I had read first. Um and then the third question uh notes the um 269 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:24,880 long-standing lease holders. So there was um a statement that given the 270 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:29,279 presence of long-standing leaseold lands within the planning area, would it be 271 00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:36,000 appropriate for the language in the IDP to also reference lease holders? Um so 272 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:40,240 administration's response to that is that a future IDP update should the 273 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:44,480 intermunicipal committee pursue this could include an update to address 274 00:26:41,919 --> 00:26:49,919 leaseolder interests. Um although the amendments proposed under the current 275 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:54,320 bylaw 1525 um only currently relate to those three amendments that were 276 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:58,159 outlined by administration. Um should a future IDP update be pursued, lease 277 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:02,159 holders can become involved in the public and stakeholder engagement 278 00:26:59,679 --> 00:27:06,960 process um as well as the public hearing process. 279 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:11,120 Uh the final question was clarification on whether the original IDP engagement 280 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:17,600 practices were considered in this update. Uh including direct mail notice 281 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:22,480 to newly affected areas. Um it mentions section 1.5 appears to read as though 282 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:27,840 these parcels would have been part of the original direct mail openhouse and 283 00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:34,240 public hearing process. So just to clarify, section 1.5 of the IDP talks 284 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:38,480 about how the original IDP was prepared. Um and it involved oversight from the 285 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:42,480 inter intermunicipal collaboration committee, public and stakeholder 286 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:48,799 engagement through open houses, web pages, and communication in the local 287 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:56,480 newspapers as well as um direct mailouts and a public hearing. Uh so the proposed 288 00:27:52,000 --> 00:28:01,840 IDP amendments under this bylaw 1525 uh followed the plan amendment process 289 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:06,240 under section 4.1.1 of the IDP 290 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:13,360 um and were circulated both internally and externally by administration 291 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:17,919 um and uh they were sent to the land owner in this new area which is the the 292 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:24,399 province. So section 4.1.1 of the IDP policy 2 293 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:29,039 specifically states that if an amendment is recommended by the ICC so the 294 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:33,200 intermunicipal committee the recommendation shall be considered by 295 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:38,000 both councils to direct administration to initiate the IDP amendment. So this 296 00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:42,640 is in this is the case here uh the intermunicipal committee uh directed 297 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:49,200 town of camour and the MD of big horn to bring these forward um to their 298 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,200 respective councils for decision. 299 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:59,919 Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Deputy Ruza. Go ahead. 300 00:28:57,679 --> 00:29:06,480 So, based pardon [clears throat] me, based on the amendments to this document 301 00:29:03,919 --> 00:29:13,200 that we're looking at today, I just want to pass just a hypothetical. 302 00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:18,720 So, if a lease holder in the yellow on figure three, map two, 303 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:26,240 I'm assuming any lease holder of that area, if they wanted to develop a 304 00:29:21,679 --> 00:29:32,640 facility of any kind, how does this just if you could spell it out for me, 305 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:38,399 how this bylaw or this policy applies or the this sorry, the bylaw, how does this 306 00:29:35,679 --> 00:29:38,399 bylaw apply? 307 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:47,919 What are we getting at today? >> Yes. And so um administration would look 308 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:54,000 at the IDP and identify that it would be whatever type of application this is. It 309 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:58,000 would be within the um IDP plan area. Uh we would look to see what type of 310 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:04,640 application it is. So let's say it's a discretionary use development permit. 311 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:10,720 For example, policy three of section 3.2 2 states that um if it's not within an 312 00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:15,600 area structure plan or area redevelopment area, which it's not, um 313 00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:19,760 the application shall be shall be circulated by the initiating m 314 00:30:17,919 --> 00:30:23,679 municipality for comment to the responding municipalities 315 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:29,120 administration. So, we would um review the application, make sure that it's 316 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:34,559 complete, um we would send that to town of Camour's administration. They would 317 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:39,679 be able to circulate the application. Um and then comments would be collected and 318 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:44,559 then it would go through the uh MD of Big Horn's normal process. So uh 319 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:48,320 currently discretionary applications go to the municipal planning commission for 320 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:52,159 decision and it would follow along with that process for a development permit. 321 00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:56,720 There's obviously a different process for depending on what type of 322 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:01,200 application. >> Thank you. 323 00:30:59,679 --> 00:31:06,320 Just to follow up from that question then, um, would it be any different if 324 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:09,960 it was a permitted use versus a discretionary use? 325 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:20,960 It doesn't appear that section 3.2 has uh any um uh 326 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:25,520 policies for permitted uses. So, it wouldn't apply. It doesn't mean that 327 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:28,320 administration wouldn't send that application, but it's it's not in the 328 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,559 IDP. >> So, if some if if a permitted use was 329 00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:35,520 applied for, we would still have to notify. We wouldn't have to because it's 330 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,399 permitted. >> We wouldn't have to. 331 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,679 » But if a discretionary use was applied for, we'd have to notify. 332 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,399 » Correct. >> Okay. Thank you. 333 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:53,200 » Go ahead. Go ahead, counselor Jane. >> Um, thank you. So then that information 334 00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:59,519 is sent to the town of Canmore and it's their responsibility to notify the 335 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:04,720 individual land holders um 336 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:10,000 north of the highway etc in the area or would they be notified? 337 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:14,480 » Uh correct. Um the through section 3.2 um states that we'd send it to the 338 00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:17,880 municipalities administration and then they would circulate 339 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,440 Any further questions? 340 00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:35,440 Thank you. If there's no more questions for 341 00:32:33,919 --> 00:32:39,360 administration at this time, we will now move on to the members of public who 342 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,880 wish to speak to the proposed bylaw 15-25. 343 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:47,279 Please raise your hand if you wish to speak and when called upon a reminder to 344 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:51,600 state your name and if your position is in favor, neutral or opposition. You 345 00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:56,640 have five minutes to speak as an individual or 10 minutes to speak as a 346 00:32:53,840 --> 00:33:01,279 spokesperson for a group. Council will also have an opportunity to ask each 347 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:04,480 member of public uh questions after your presentation. 348 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,480 Please raise your hand if you wish to speak. 349 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,480 Go ahead. Yeah, you can come and have a seat right here. 350 00:33:58,159 --> 00:34:08,800 and it is um where I was born and raised and it's very personal. So the timing of 351 00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:16,240 this seems very odd to have these two parcels just signaled out. Um, on the 352 00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:21,599 presentation it did say, and it's just a very minute detail, but it did say 353 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:27,520 December 24th for the Rocky Mountain Outlook. It was December 25th that it 354 00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:36,240 came out. Um, and I would just like clarification on 355 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:42,480 how so the while the province does own uh the affected lands, there's only two 356 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:52,000 affected lands that are um noted in this new amended map. And I 357 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:56,879 really appreciate the MD for um how they advertised it because I feel compared to 358 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:04,160 the town of Camour, it was very clear, transparent, and I I really appreciate 359 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:11,359 the transparency there. Um I would just like to know clarification on how the 360 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:19,119 province was notified. Um and then for the figure three, the notification area 361 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:26,240 on the yellow part um in the town of Camour, it directly borders on a piece 362 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:31,040 of property that is noted as FD, so future development 363 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:36,720 within the town of Camar. So, I'm just wondering why 364 00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:43,760 if these lands were missed, why were we not considering other lands? So, that's 365 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:50,000 my only comment cuz directly across from the yellow 366 00:35:45,520 --> 00:36:00,280 is um a large parcel that's also crown land that is zoned CWFD 367 00:35:54,720 --> 00:36:00,280 or maybe not CW but future development. 368 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:06,280 Thank you. Um, are there any questions? 369 00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:15,599 Can I just confirm with you? I don't know if you can see it from here, but is 370 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:19,920 it just like this parcel of land? 371 00:36:17,359 --> 00:36:24,960 » Yeah, just directly. Yeah, directly across. 372 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:31,839 » Okay. But not the whole green. Um, so directly across there is a parcel that 373 00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:38,320 is zoned FW or sorry FD, future development. But everything, if I may 374 00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:42,800 just kind of Sorry, I guess you guys can't really see 375 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:49,119 this, but everything just up in here is all kind of that wildland park, but 376 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:54,400 directly across from the um the parcels that are mentioned is 377 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:57,839 zoned future development >> and it but it's still leaf or crown 378 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:03,760 land. >> Well, it's the same as right 379 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:08,000 » as the two parcels that are being being included now. 380 00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:12,079 » Yeah. >> Go ahead, Deb. 381 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:17,320 » Thank you. I have a question for administration. 382 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,320 So, 383 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,680 » u corrected again. I need that once in a while. 384 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:34,960 » Go ahead, councilors. I have a question. The area you're 385 00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:40,480 referring to across the road, is that the area known as Indian Flats? 386 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:44,720 » I'm I'm not sure. >> The open area if we're talking in 387 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:49,920 between uh the the industrial building and then 388 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:53,839 would be the road to the Alpine Club. Is that the area? 389 00:37:51,200 --> 00:38:01,040 » There's actually three parcels in that area. So, one of the parcels 390 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:07,599 um starts at the top of that map. I'd have to look up the town of Cameron, but 391 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:12,880 it starts like right up into this corner. It was the old um Transla 392 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:18,160 building and then that goes directly and it borders right onto the yellow area. 393 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:24,800 So, my question is just if we're including the yellow area, why would we 394 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:32,960 not include future development? And then this was previously zoned um natural 395 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:39,440 area and it just recently got reszoned to the forestry district. So 396 00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:45,119 I'm just confused as why we're not considering everything that's cuz if you 397 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:48,960 look at the the map there, it looks very undeveloped. 398 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:54,000 So why are we not considering other things in the town of Camour? And I'm 399 00:38:50,640 --> 00:39:02,720 also confused just as the pink area because why would we not be notifying 400 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:07,599 other areas like I'm just confused and there was a question asked for 401 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:12,160 clarification on the notification area and the plan area but so that 402 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:16,880 notification area would just be to the province. 403 00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:22,000 So so the lease holders have no rights here. They weren't notified about this 404 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:29,640 change and they wouldn't be notifi and the land 405 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,640 Yeah. 406 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:38,760 the land the land holders across the tree wouldn't be notified either. 407 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:46,720 And in in my submission, it just shows like a highlighter where it's like you 408 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:51,440 highlight both sides of the map. Let's do the notification. Let's be fair. 409 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:56,560 Let's be transparent. But this to me just says we're gonna signal out two 410 00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:04,960 properties that have a similar family history. 411 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:09,680 And that's my concern. But I also don't really have a concern about it being in 412 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:14,800 the IDP because I feel like it is a sensitive area and I do think that 413 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:18,599 council is more than capable of overseeing the development. 414 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:29,119 Thank you. I understand what where you're coming from with uh the area 415 00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:34,000 across the street from the 1A there. So, thank you for highlighting that to all 416 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:37,800 of us. That's important. Are there any other questions? 417 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:46,680 » Okay, thank you. >> Is there anyone else wishing to speak 418 00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:46,680 here today 419 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,480 and nobody online? Okay. 420 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:59,599 All right. It looks as though we do not have anyone else here to speak today. 421 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:07,240 Um, I'll now ask council if there are any final questions for administration. 422 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,240 Go ahead, Deputy Reef. 423 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:16,319 So, an issue was raised about if there was development on the north side of 424 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:22,000 Highway 1A in that green section on the map. And I'm going to say I'm going to 425 00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:28,160 expand that a little bit further all the way up to Harvey Heights. 426 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:32,280 So, in that green area, MD land, if we can pull the map up again, please. 427 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:54,880 Now, I realize this is a an agreement between Canmore 428 00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:59,760 and the MD, but the question was raised if there's development 429 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:05,000 north of the yellow highlighted area, and I'm going to say even all the way up 430 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,000 to Harvey Heights, 431 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:11,680 if there was an application that came to the MD, what is the MD's 432 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:17,920 responsibilities? Um because I think the question is why 433 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:23,119 was this yellow area highlighted? Why is notification area 434 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:27,880 and then what is the difference if there's development on the other side of 435 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,880 the highway? 436 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:37,359 » Uh yes, thank you. Uh Haley Gavin, the director of planning and development 437 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:43,599 services through uh to the through the reef to deputy reef ta. Um I think in 438 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:49,599 the bigger picture first of all that we need to 439 00:42:45,359 --> 00:42:56,079 um consider is this intermunicipal development plan already exists. So 440 00:42:52,720 --> 00:43:01,280 there was a um process that was undertaken several years ago to 441 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:08,160 determine between the two municipalities what the plan area was. [snorts] Now, it 442 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:12,960 primarily focuses in around uh Smith Creek, Dead Man's Flats over in that 443 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:20,640 area. Now, I guess to get to the crux of why this 444 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:25,520 particular land was identified and uh brought forwards in this way is because 445 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:30,480 I don't recall exactly when it was, but it was certainly before I started with 446 00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:39,680 the MD. there was talk of a um potential application 447 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:44,800 coming forwards in this particular area. Now, an application was never submitted 448 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:49,040 to the MD. So, I want that to be clear. We never received a development permit 449 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:54,720 application for that potential development that was being talked about 450 00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:59,839 coming to this land. We received a referral from the 451 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,760 government of Alberta which is the correct process. They received an 452 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:09,040 application. They refer to the jurisdiction which is the MD to get our 453 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:13,760 comments and thoughts on that particular application. somehow 454 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:19,520 um that potential application was that 455 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:25,440 information were shared far and wide and lots of people heard about it and I 456 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:29,599 guess when the town of Canmore I don't want to speak for them but I would 457 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:35,119 imagine when they looked at the IDP they were like oh if there's an application 458 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:39,280 in this area we're not mandatory to be notified they wouldn't be notified by 459 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:43,920 the province because it's not their jurisdiction it's ours. They wouldn't be 460 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:48,720 notified by us because it wasn't in the IDP. 461 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:53,680 So, could I sit here today and say, would me and my team, if we received a 462 00:44:50,960 --> 00:45:03,040 discretionary application, would we notify the town? Most likely. Do we have 463 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:09,520 to? No. So, this change mandates us to notify the town. And I will be clear 464 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:14,880 that us notifying the town is not us asking the town for permission. It's 465 00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:20,640 asking the town for their comments. Same as any other referral that we do to 466 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:27,040 Alberta transportation, Alberta parks, any other government government agency, 467 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:31,680 ministry, utilities, ATCO, uh uh the railway if that's applicable. We do 468 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:36,079 referrals to all manner of agencies. We collect their comments. Then when we 469 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:41,920 come to MPC, we provide a recommendation on an application and we show what we 470 00:45:39,839 --> 00:45:47,359 receive during the the circulation through the referral process. It doesn't 471 00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:51,280 mean that an application would get approved or denied based on those 472 00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:56,720 comments. It means that we have to consider those comments and we may add 473 00:45:53,599 --> 00:46:00,800 conditions to mitigate any concerns that were brought up. So I just want to be 474 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:07,880 clear on that. There's a very long- winded explanation, but I'm hoping that 475 00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:07,880 it answers your question. 476 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,680 Go ahead, Deputy. >> Thank you. I I should have brought that 477 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:19,200 up earlier and we could just kind of got to the point. Um, but I'm wondering if 478 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:26,480 we're all being just a tiny bit shortsighted in that 479 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:32,960 we should maybe extend that yellow area on MD. 480 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:39,760 um MD no on the MD property everything that's MD ordering Canmore 481 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:46,119 why we wouldn't treat it the same way and that we would simply notify them if 482 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,119 we've had applications for development 483 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:56,240 » uh through the reev uh to deputy reevor I guess the um position of 484 00:46:53,599 --> 00:47:02,640 administration on this uh particular amendment um we don't have any concerns 485 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:08,560 with it the way that it's been um requested. Um I think you know given 486 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:13,680 that we need both municipalities approval for this and my understanding 487 00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:17,920 is well I won't say that they have approved it but I I believe they may 488 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:23,280 have today. Um I I believe that moving forward with 489 00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:27,920 this amendment um would be okay, but I would also certainly suggest a more 490 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:33,359 thorough review because I feel like there's more to look at than just the 491 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:37,280 notification area um and whether how recent this discussion occurred. I was 492 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:42,480 not involved. I don't go to those meetings. So I don't know um exactly 493 00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:46,800 what was talked about but I think that you know in the policies of the IDP it 494 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:51,920 does say that the administrations can come forward um with some other 495 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:59,680 amendment suggestions and perhaps a more thorough review. Uh you will see uh when 496 00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:05,200 we uh go to the um RFD for the council decision we did receive other comments 497 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:08,880 of other changes that other um departments or agencies would like to 498 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:14,640 see. So I do think a more thorough review um is warranted to take a look at 499 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:21,920 what other amendments could occur. Uh but at this time administration you know 500 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:30,400 for essentially making a notification mandatory in this particular area is 501 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:36,160 sufficient at this point I would say. >> Go ahead Deputy. Thank you for that. And 502 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:41,760 I I think yeah, a thorough review is is warranted down the road. And I can 503 00:48:38,319 --> 00:48:46,240 sympathize with the lease holder. It they would almost feel like they're 504 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:51,119 being singled out for whatever reason. um based on what we're seeing here 505 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:55,920 today, whereas we could have maybe avoided this by 506 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,920 having that thorough review and saying, you know, looking at all of the MD 507 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:05,920 property that borders a community and when we should be notifying same as any 508 00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:09,319 other municipality that we border um similar agreements. 509 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:18,240 » Um sorry, I have a question just to kind of follow up with that. Do 510 00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:25,079 do the IDPS have an expiry date because I've heard they're coming due typically 511 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,079 across Alberta right now. 512 00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:34,559 » Go ahead what >> uh through the reef. Um I was going to 513 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:40,880 uh reference section 4.1.1 of the IDP and it does make reference to a a review 514 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:46,000 of the IDP four years after approval. So, I'm not sure if that was the date 515 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:51,119 you were looking at, but um to tag on to what um uh Haley was discussing, there 516 00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:57,280 are several ways that this document can be amended. Like I said, we are going by 517 00:49:53,359 --> 00:50:03,520 policy two of section 4.1.1, which is the IDP amendment is recommended by the 518 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:10,160 IC. Um it can also be an administrative initiated um amendment. It could be an 519 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:14,000 amendment for um by those other than the town or the MD, so by a member of the 520 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:18,079 public. And it can be a joint administration administrative review, 521 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,559 which is what I mentioned of the four-year timeline. 522 00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:28,800 And that four years is coming up pretty quick here. Is that 523 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:33,040 that's okay. 524 00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:39,599 Sorry. Oh gosh. Okay. 525 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:47,440 Are there any other questions? Sorry, Jen Mar. Go ahead, councelor Smith. 526 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:52,400 » Um, I have a couple of clarifications I need for this uh the discussion on 527 00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:56,240 notifications. Um, 528 00:50:54,640 --> 00:51:02,640 and it's that I don't understand the provincial portion of the notifications. 529 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:07,359 Do we know what their requirement is and their process? 530 00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:11,599 Like if we notify the province that we've got an application coming forward, 531 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:18,400 what do they have anything holding them to 532 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:22,640 um notifying their lease holders? Do we know that process? If we were going to 533 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:28,480 look into amendments, 534 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:33,359 is this something that we need through the reef to 535 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:37,680 councelor Smith? Um, I'm not aware of the provincial process for notifying 536 00:51:35,359 --> 00:51:41,760 lease holders. Um, during a comprehensive review of the IDP, it can 537 00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:47,640 certainly be looked into. I see no reason why it couldn't, but I'm not 538 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,640 aware of their process. 539 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:56,480 Go ahead, councelor. >> Okay, another one on notification. When 540 00:51:53,040 --> 00:52:05,119 we send uh notification to the town of Canmore um and we send it to them uh 541 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:12,240 uh as a referral for the area, um do they then notify businesses 542 00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:19,200 um uh residents, everyone in the area? Do we have to give them an extended 543 00:52:15,359 --> 00:52:25,520 amount of time so that um their residents and rateayers can be notified 544 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:31,280 within the MGA timeline? How does that process work 545 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:37,599 through the REAP to councelor Smith? Um the timeline is is identified in policy 546 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:41,119 six um which states 21 days. So the initiating municipalities administration 547 00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:46,000 shall provide the receiving municipalities administration with 21 548 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:52,000 days to respond to planning application circulations unless additional time is 549 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:57,200 needed. Um so that that aligns with our other circulations. So we would allow 30 550 00:52:54,319 --> 00:53:04,240 days typically if we were referring to um referring development permit 551 00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:10,599 applications for example or or um uh redistricting applications. So that 552 00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:10,599 aligns with our timelines for 553 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:22,160 » Yep. Wrapping my head around that one. Thank you, 554 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:29,119 » Councelor James. You had a question. >> Um yes, thank you and thank you for 555 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:35,520 um kind of that segue, Councelor Smith, on uh leaseholders. 556 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:41,119 um the grazing lease holder disposition often leaves the grazing lease owner 557 00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:46,800 holders with no notification when we do 558 00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:54,559 development permits in the rural areas. So I think some uh if there is some way 559 00:53:50,720 --> 00:54:00,960 that we can mechanize a process of know getting and finding out who those lease 560 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:06,079 holders are um in this area or municipallywide 561 00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:10,520 um would be would be helpful in uh notification process. 562 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:19,040 » Thank you. Um, are there any other questions for 563 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:26,079 administration? Um, I just had uh one more question that 564 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:30,040 came from our uh member of public. How was the province notified 565 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:38,160 » through the reef? The province was um we notified them by email. Uh, so they 566 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:45,599 received a similar notification >> and like who is it just like a general 567 00:54:41,359 --> 00:54:51,760 general alberta gov.AB? >> We do have specific um area managers for 568 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:54,559 this area. So So we do email it to the specific area. 569 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:58,359 » Okay. >> Manager. Thank you. 570 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:03,960 » All right. Are there any other questions? 571 00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:09,920 Um, sorry. Well, you're going to get the 572 00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:13,280 next question. Is there anything that administration would like to clarify 573 00:55:12,373 --> 00:55:17,040 [laughter] from today's hearing? 574 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,960 » Haley, go ahead. >> Yes. Through the rings. Um, I'm just 575 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:25,760 going to pull up my screen again here and I don't want to get too far into 576 00:55:23,359 --> 00:55:30,880 these weeds because this is not our land use bylaw and not our land use 577 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:36,720 districts. So, preface with that, but I will share my screen here. 578 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:41,119 Uh just taking a look at this area uh on the town of Canour's uh land use 579 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:46,240 districts here. So there was a mention of a future development area. So I'm 580 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:53,119 assuming this parcel uh which is set back and not uh directly adjoining um 581 00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:57,839 the MD of Big Horn. So there are permitted and discretionary uses for 582 00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:03,200 that district. The ones along the front are industrial one and two. And then to 583 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:08,640 the far right hand side here is the conservation of wildsand district. Um 584 00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:12,880 and I can defer to Miss Casperitz to read out the permitted and discretionary 585 00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:19,680 uses for those two districts if council thinks that would be helpful. 586 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:24,240 » Sure. While we're on the topic >> thank you. So permitted uh uses within 587 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:29,280 that district are wildlife corridor and wildlife habitat patch discretionary 588 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:35,280 uses, accessory building and accessory uses two developments approved prior to 589 00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:39,839 third reading of bylaw 099. Um existing developments on a specific 590 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,839 site prior to third reading of bylaw 099. 591 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,000 very very few uses. 592 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:56,240 » And for the future development district, which is the district that the cursor is 593 00:56:53,599 --> 00:57:02,640 on right now, um the permitted uses are public utility, discretionary uses are 594 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:07,040 accessory buildings, uh uh extensive agriculture, intensive agriculture, 595 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:12,680 athletic and recreational facility, outdoor, campground, open space, public 596 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,680 building. 597 00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:21,040 Go ahead, Deputy Reef. >> Go ahead, Director Gavin. 598 00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:26,000 » And if I may, I just wanted to say this is from the town of Camel's interactive 599 00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:30,559 community map. So, I would assume that this is up to date and accurate. I just 600 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:35,680 want to disclaimer that in case the map has changed, but this is how it is today 601 00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:42,319 in real time. Thank you. >> Thank you. Go ahead, Deputy Reef Tus. on 602 00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:47,839 that little tiny patch of uh the last piece of green that we talked about. If 603 00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:53,480 there was a discretionary use applied for in that little who would get 604 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,480 notified? 605 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:05,079 I guess it falls on empty property. It's empty, isn't it? 606 00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:13,359 If I may through the reeve to deputy reeve you said the green piece you mean 607 00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:17,079 at the top here >> when you were just highlighting 608 00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:29,839 sorry yes there's and that one if would there be applications that come to the 609 00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:34,160 MD for those properties >> through the reef to the deputy reef both 610 00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:37,599 of those parcels are inside the town of Cour 611 00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:37,599 » oh they're in 612 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:50,960 Go ahead, councelor James. >> Would not would not our intermunicipal 613 00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:57,680 agreement have them notify us and then we would be responsible for distributing 614 00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:03,680 that notification such as they are >> through the reeve to councelor James. 615 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:08,119 No, because those lands are not inside the IDP plan area. 616 00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:12,280 » Gotcha. Thank you. 617 00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:06,559 I know maps are good. Yeah, we've got another question from councelor James. 618 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:14,400 Go ahead. Is it not in the MGA that any uh 619 01:00:10,319 --> 01:00:20,640 development within 1.5 kilometers of another municipality notification is 620 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:25,760 required >> through the reef to councelor James it's 621 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:32,920 1.6 six and that's only if you don't have an IDP and we have one that defines 622 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,920 the plan area 623 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:42,720 » and just to bring everybody back to when these IDPS were initially made we had to 624 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:49,839 do 13 of them. Uh we hired a consultant uh any IDP that we we asked for many 625 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:54,480 exceptions or exemptions uh from the province. We got a couple of 626 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:59,119 them, but not very many. And we didn't really understand what they were for at 627 01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:05,839 the time. It was just everybody has to do these. So, we hired a consultant. 628 01:01:02,319 --> 01:01:11,760 They kind of knocked them out and we got them done. And I think as we've started 629 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:18,960 to roll roll down the path here, we've understood where where their power is. 630 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:26,640 And uh I see their power as in providing a notification area. Um and that's 631 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:32,720 that's what I see it as. But I think it is important for us to review all of 632 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:37,040 them. Um if they've if they've all come or are close to that four year mark, 633 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:42,400 then we should be looking at those. But um this one was more challenging. And I 634 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:46,720 do remember back in the day we looked at areas that 635 01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:50,880 could we saw the potential for being developed and if we didn't see potential 636 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:55,920 for being developed um or it would not have an immediate 637 01:01:52,880 --> 01:02:01,920 impact to the MD um so like that higher up triangle um we kind of just kept it 638 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:07,040 out because we didn't really understand what the whole point of this was to 639 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:11,760 begin with. Um, so now that we understand it a bit more, I think 640 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:16,400 reviewing it in a way that we've talked about today would be important and we 641 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:22,000 should be looking at all of them cuz there there could be value in in doing 642 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:26,720 that with all of them. But um yeah, I think today was a really good 643 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:33,839 opportunity to uh dive into IDPs again and uh uh bring this back to the 644 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:36,799 forefront of uh what they mean to us. Um, is there anything else from 645 01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:40,880 administration that you'd like to clarify 646 01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:44,319 from today's hearing? Okay. 647 01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:48,640 Um, all right. We have now come to the end of the public hearing. I remind all 648 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:51,760 present that council will not accept any uh further written or oral submissions 649 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:57,440 on this matter once the hearing is closed. Councilors, is there any reason 650 01:02:54,079 --> 01:03:01,599 I cannot close the meeting? Seeing none, I now declare the hearing 651 01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:05,559 closed for bylaw 15-25. Thank you very much for coming.