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To the flag of the [clears throat]
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Morning everyone. Thank you for coming
today the September monthly meeting.

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Um
we will um

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first of all approve the minutes of our
last meeting and I think there was only

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one. Is that right?
Is there any uh additions or

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corrections?

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Does someone want to make a motion to
accept the August minutes?

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» I make the motion accept minutes.
August.

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» We have a motion. Is there a second?
I'll second that. I have a second. All

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those in favor say I. I.
>> I.

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Motion carries.
Um, we have the agenda.

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Does anyone have any additions to the
agenda?

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So, we want to make a motion to approve
the agenda.

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» So, move.
>> I'll second that. [clears throat]

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» We have a motion and a second for the
agenda.

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Um, all those in favor say I.
>> I.

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» I. Motion carries.
Um, we'll move into public comment

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period.
Um, we have one

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and I think it's Joey.
>> Yes.

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» Joke. Yeah.
>> Yeah.

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[snorts]
>> Morning.

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» Morning. Um, I guess I just wanted to
voice a concern over last month's uh

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meeting in regards to budgetary
recommendations, mainly bonuses giving

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to the sheriff and fire chief based on
performance. Um, I guess just notes is

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sheriff elected to do a duty and
grateful that we have a sheriff. um and

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in searching around just Google searches
or whatever in regards to uh that there

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are [clears throat] gray areas on
bonuses given and a way and stating that

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the wage possibly should be adjusted
instead of a bonus be given and then

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questioning where that bonus is coming
from if it's coming out of general fund

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or if it's coming out of emergency fund
whatever that is. Um, and also if it's a

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performance-based bonus, is there a form
of evaluation process that takes place

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to achieve to that? Um, and then in
regards to the fire chief,

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uh, the commissioners, I understand pay
the salary and he's governed by the

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board, fire board, which is elected. And
uh I spoke with the fireboard president

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and stated that there was no
communication in regards to uh

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performancebased bonus on their side and
um that there was not even any

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communication to them about in regards
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they should have been able to make that
recommendation or at least been included

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in the conversation.
And then also have a concern that the

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week of the presidential library opening
that two commissioners spent the week

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together at the Demor School which was
command center for law enforcement. And

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uh listening to the August 4th
recording, it was stated in that

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recording that um in deciding the
performance bases to be paid that they

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were staging that they were there
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evening and helped make decisions and
was just questioning in regards to that

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if there was decisions being made on
behalf of the county and state's

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attorney wasn't present was present but
there was no meeting notice, no minutes

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or anything of that. So those are my
concerns and thank you for your time.

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» Thank you.

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Is there uh anyone else? There's any
more. Okay.

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Thank you again.
Um we'll move into uh the next item

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which is uh Kevin Kessle.
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if you want to come forward.
>> Morning, commissioners.

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» Good morning.
>> So, I've got several questions and this

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is why I wanted to be on the agenda.
Have you guys done a performance review

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of said employees for the bonuses?

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Yes or no question is all I'm looking
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Not that I No.

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» Okay. [clears throat]
Because if you had, I wanted to know

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what metrics you used to justify it.
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[cough]

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» We didn't. So, we can't answer that.
>> Okay. You answer [clears throat] this

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one. Where in Century Code does it state
you can give an elected official bonus?

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cuz all I can find is you cannot. So I
would like to know where it does.

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» It's been done in the past. So that's
all um unless the state attorney wants

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to answer that. But uh
>> the me where it's been done in the past.

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» Um
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Don Heiser wasn't elected by people. Um,
I mean, I hate to go into names. I I got

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a few names that we gave bonuses that I
wasn't on the board with, but I mean, I

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heard about,
>> couldn't read about it cuz it wasn't in

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there and I don't want to touch base on
it because I'm all for stuff like that

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when a person goes and [clears throat]
sees what they do. So that's why same

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» considering the duties that were
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Jim, would you personally they work for
Hey Farms or Ranch, whatever you call

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yourself.
Would you personally write that check

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for that bonus? Yes or no?
>> What's that got to do with the county?

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» Yeah.
>> What's that got to do with the county?

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» Yeah.
>> Would you personally spend that money?

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That's that's what your job is right
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money. You made a decision to
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So I'm asking, would you write that
check out of your personal check

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checking account?
>> It's not This isn't personal. The the

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farm would be different than the county,
Kevin. So why would it be any different?

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If you personally wouldn't spend that w
money, why would you expect the

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taxpayers to?
>> Who said I wouldn't do it?

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» That's what I'm asking you. You're
telling me what's got to do with it. I'm

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asking you, would you personally spend
that money? I'm looking at the overall

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picture of what happened here with
Billings County.

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[clears throat]
>> It didn't answer my question. I asked,

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would you personally spend that money?
>> That's not a question I asked. I'm

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sorry.
>> Yeah. Just not going to answer it.

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» No. [clears throat]
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» Mr. Chairman, I got a question for
Jerry.

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» So, does it state incentive code you can
or cannot give a bonus to an elected

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official?

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There is, as been it's been alluded to,
there's a gray area on it. Salary

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adjustments are preferable. However, if
there is if it's discretionary

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and if it's in the discretion of the
board [clears throat] based upon there

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there are multiple ways to do it. The
board elected to do it through a

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one-time uh discretionary bonus. Um,
century code does touch on the board of

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county commissioners of the county made
by resolution increase the salary of any

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full-time county official
provided in the section if in the

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judgment of such board by reason of
duties performed the official merits the

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increase.
So applying that to the the bonus as

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opposed and and with with the bonus
there's obvious tax implications and

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things but the board does have
discretion to increase salaries uh if

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they so choose they chose to do it
through through the discretionary bonus

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subject to the emergency declaration
based upon the extensive amount of work

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that was outside of the normal duties of
the two county employees that performed

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the the work. Um, running emergency
management services and running the

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sheriff's department has its own set of
of criteria and and expectations.

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uh what we as a county faced throughout
not just July but for a year in advance

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of of this past July 4th um was in
excess of what any sheriff around the

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state has expected to plan for and as
well as the emergency management

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services with the uh fire EMS the rest
that's that's what

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has some basis in in the law to do it.
So, uh it's been done in the past where

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others uh in the county and county
officials have gotten increases in

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salary. Um the the bonus structure is
defined in century code for state

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employees,
not as clearly set forth for county

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employees.

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state employees have a [clears throat] a
very they actually have their own, you

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know, piece of the century code that
talks about, you know, setting it forth

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and and they're limited and capped, but
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again, I I I'm not going to get into
county versus state. Many more examples

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of state budget, I'm sorry, state
bonuses that have been awarded uh just

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within the last month, um approximately
a month. Um the believe it was the state

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investment board uh opted to give
hundreds of thousands of dollars of

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bonuses to its board. Um which the
attorney general said was was proper.

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But again, that's that's codified.
That's statutory. Uh the attorney

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general found language that said it was
proper and appropriate. So, I guess to

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answer the question, back to the
beginning,

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there are a couple ways to do it. Um,
the way that the the commission voted

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does not appear unlawful.
Um, but in their discretion, again, the

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board of county commissioners, if in the
judgment of such board, by reason of the

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duties performed, the official merits
the increase, it's not unlawful.

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Okay. Okay.
>> I have a question for you, then. Yes,

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sir.
>> So, [clears throat]

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did you ever attend, you know, cuz
you're on the fire department, right?

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» That's right.
>> Okay. So, did you ever attend any of the

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events down here that went on? Did you
go to any of the meetings during

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» I did not That is why it's a volunteer
fire department. I have time.

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» That's right. I'm just asking.
>> Yep. So, you don't really know what

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these what all of the individuals that
did do things do and so why

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» individually? No, I do not what they
know what they did individually.

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» If you don't know and you're asking
questions, that's fine. It's your right

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to do that. So,
>> but but we have a reason to believe that

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they were entitled to that. That's my
take.

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» Okay. Okay. And and if you uh
>> want to know how many meetings or how

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many things that were attended and and
taken care of after hours, there was

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lots there was city meetings, county
meetings that we went to Bismar several

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times met with the
>> government documented, right?

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» Huh?
>> It should be documented, right?

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» It is. Yeah.
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» So it it's there. So um
>> so they work some overtime hours.

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» That's what you're telling me, correct?
an exempt employee. The sheriff is both

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of the individuals you're referring to
are exempt. They don't get overtime.

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» They don't get overtime.
>> That's right.

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» Right.
>> Which means they have the luxury of

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taking time [clears throat] off when
other 40hour employees do not.

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To answer your second part of that, you
can adjust the salary. A bonus is not a

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salary adjustment
because if a bonus was a salary

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adjustment, the tax would be the same.
But a bonus is tax different.

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I just going from my personal experience
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» So that would be a
>> that's a huh?

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» That's a Jared question.
>> Any anytime anytime [clears throat] your

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paychecks are higher than normal in a in
a lump there there's more taxes taken

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out.
>> Mhm. [clears throat]

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» So bonuses are taxed at a different rate
than what your standard

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» that's not a salary adjustment. that
different if you did a salary adjustment

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then
>> that's different but you didn't you

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issued a bonus I'm not going to rebuke
you have the right to do the fire chief

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cuz he is not an elected official
I question is going to be the sheriff as

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an elected official am I not going to
deny that he probably had to work some

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hours yes but I'm also going to say Dean
you were around in 1988

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there's a lot of people worked a lot of
extra hours then that to me is more a

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natural disaster than the president
showing up.

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» I disagree with you.
>> Yeah, I disagree with that.

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» There's a lot at stake on a county side
when

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» there is a lot of liability on state
side. when we were sitting there that

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week when you have Secret Service and
the FBI and they don't even talk to you

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but on Thursday one of them finally did
and how wonderful Billings County was up

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to par and did this cuz if we would have
had a disaster it would have fell on us

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and it would have so in ' 88 you're
talking them fires I was assistant chief

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in 88 I'm pretty familiar with that so
when you're out there fire got away fire

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did this fire did that that's not a
national disaster ask what would have

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happened here if something would have
went on the day Trump was here. So

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that's where I'm going to divide the
two.

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» I understand where you're coming from
[clears throat and cough] because you

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can't control the fire and you got a lot
more control here. But I'm also going to

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say the Secret Service and the FBI, they
do this every day.

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» They do.
>> They do it every single day.

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» When they come and tell you how
wonderful Billings County did and what

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we did, we couldn't expect what people
we had. We had no control on that. We

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still had to plan this event as if what
was going to happen. That's right.

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» And we were I was thankful there wasn't
enough people around and it kind of went

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the other way just because of issues.
But we still had to go through this

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whole ordeal before and all the way up
to the time of the event. And when that

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day was over, I kid you not, it was a
big relief. Did you ask if you can get

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that cost back?
[clears throat]

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» That's my understanding is that's the
intent that the state is. It can be the

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intent
>> through the emergency declaration that

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the governor also issued.
[clears throat] The intent is to

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reimburse the county. The county between
the the secretary of the interior in his

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previous capacity as governor, other
individuals that were involved in

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setting this library up for the last
four or five years. There's been a lot

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of of planning and the state is not
going to let it fall just to the county.

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» You're right. And all I'm asking is um
the only thing I could find on it, so I

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want to know from the commission
[clears throat]

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is the only thing I can find on it is
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And I'm just curious,
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» What do you apply through?

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» Well, it it was applied for
That's right. We had to do it before the

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so the governor could make it a
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» Dees.
>> Yeah. Department of Emergency. So, so

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there was a million dollar set aside
>> Bill 10:18 to be specific.

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» So, dees is working on that. We actually
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9:30 9:30 or 10:30 a.m.
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» Okay. Which one of you guys is going to
be in that meeting?

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» I've been in the past one, so I'm sure
I'll be in the next one.

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» That's all I ask. Okay,
>> that is all I have gentlemen for now.

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Thank you.
>> Thanks.

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» Thank you, Kevin.

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» So, I'll do department uh reports after
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» and Julie is on 9:15. So,

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Good morning. Oh, wait. Wrong way.
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» Who decided to move the furniture?
>> Well, it's so you weren't blocking

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everybody over there.
>> It's working out. I think

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» Oh, good morning. Morning.
>> I just wanted to uh come in today to

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just uh bring some further attention to
the the minutes publication um process

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in the county. Um I I know I when you
visit with people I I'm curious I guess

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if you've heard people say that are
never published. I know they are but I

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also notice that there are gaps and you
try to keep up by reading the paper

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which I normally utilize the paper. Um,
but just in the last couple weeks, I

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just realized that there were probably
more gaps than than maybe you realized,

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maybe the office realizes, whether
intentional, unintentional, I'm not here

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to say, but um, I think some
accountability maybe as to getting these

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published timely and posted online
timely would be helpful. Um and just to

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bring that to everyone's attention um as
in century code obviously in 1113

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11-13-02
um the county auditor shall act as a

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clerical board of county commissioners
and keep an accurate record of the

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official proceedings of the board which
is stuff and according to NDACO other

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duties of a county auditor include
finding and storing copies of the

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official county newspaper which is
pioneer as county record as found on

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their website under which that
information I found on the NDAC website.

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Uh also on 11-11-37
of the center code proceedings of board

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of county commissioners to be published
an official newspaper when published the

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board of county commissioners shall
supply the official newspaper of the

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county. Although a complete report of
its official proceedings at each regular

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and special meeting no later than seven
days after the meeting at which the

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report has [clears throat] been
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Once they're approved, the following
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the publisher of the official newspaper
shall publish the report in the issue of

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the paper next succeeding the time of
its reception and shall file with the

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county auditor and at even a publication
executed in the prop report. So I I do

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know from experience with the change in
the newspaper ownership, it hasn't

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always been picture perfect um with
correspondence, but when things are

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published, there should be
acknowledgement of that publish

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publishing. Uh so I would think that
that would be something to be checked

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on. Um in 2024 was at one point when I
was looking for minutes that I noticed

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that there was an issue and I had
contacted the auditor's office at that

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time. Uh it was midappril and I couldn't
actually find minutes beyond January

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2024 either in the county pioneer or
online. So that's a that's January,

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February, March, April 3 months. I was
looking for February March which March

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also included a special meeting. um they
all would have been approved prior to

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April 18th when I when I inquired about
trying to find them. So the minutes

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ended up getting uh posted online
relatively quickly. Uh also I was told

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that the newspaper would be contacted to
follow up and obviously the emailing

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process of those minutes. Um but they
they were additionally uh published

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about a week later. Uh but that was
April. So you got February March minutes

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not being seen until the end of April.
Uh at that time my hope when in

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contacting the the auditor's office was
that they'd like to see the

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communication between the auditor's
office um obviously for your proceedings

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um and the newspaper that there would be
successful uh communication to ensure

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timely of the future publishing of
minutes and proceedings. Um also to

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bring to attention that online postings
aren't always immediate. Um you know a

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week but you know when it's a couple
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even since then, like I said, it was
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nonchalantly paying attention. But it
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year on the 31st of July, I was trying
to look up some zoning items and I

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pulled up my newspapers cuz I had quite
a few weeks left from prior and I found

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that the last official minutes as of
July, that's as of those newspapers were

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published from April and I could not
find May or June. and those should have

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at least been at some point published by
July 31st. Um, jumped online and again

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found that the issue of them not being
available online. Uh, so I contacted the

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auditor's office again to resolve it.
Uh, the online posting was just declared

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an office admission, but I mean you had
a couple months of minutes that weren't

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posted at all timely, which should be
easy to do online. um emails. I was also

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provided the emails to show the
documentation of the communication with

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the newspaper, which that was
appreciated, but they they just they

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weren't published for whatever reason.
Um one thing I noted in the emails was

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that the June minutes was entirely and
this is of this year. Um the June

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minutes email were entirely minutes
while the email containing May was kind

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of bundled in the board packet and it
didn't request publication. and the

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auditor did bring that to my attention
that it was fair and not requesting

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publication. But um so again a
communication problem. Um I I have other

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people have said recently in the last
few weeks when I've been visiting

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[clears throat] about county business
that they say well you can never find

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minutes in the newspaper which you know
you can easily say that if you're but I

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was curious. So, I I I got into the
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I went back to 2024. And I mean,
everyone, we can go back and go over the

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room, but I mean, I scoured those
editions two and three times a piece

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just to make sure I was not missing
anything. And in 21 meetings, and I did

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follow through on I went online through
the agenda center, printed them off for

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24, 25, and 26.
um went through and verified that they

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all had minutes attached to make sure
that they were a meeting that did have

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minutes. So then and so of 21 meetings
in 2024, seven of those were not

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published. Six of which were the last
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one special meeting that was considered
a a potential meeting, but there was

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never any verification online whether
that meeting occurred or not other than

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there were there's no minutes for it. uh
in 2024 or in 2025

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there were 24 meetings um noted but 13
of them were not published and of 16

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meetings so far in 2026 which I'm not
including the August minutes because

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they would be approved today so they
weren't available for publishing yet uh

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three were not published and one was
actually published twice which was like

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the biggest January one was published
two times uh so

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of the ones published and also Not all
of them are timely. Like I found August

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meetings published in December. Um
it's it's it's very spread and I I I

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watched some of the other county like
school board whatnot. Um yeah, there

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were some flip-flops too. So am I saying
this is all entirely on the county

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office? No. What am I saying? Is there a
communication problem to follow up and

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be sure that these things are getting to
the paper to the appropriate person at

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the paper who's supposed to be
publishing these? Um, and like I said, I

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work through them two or three times a
piece, and I'm I'm pretty confident in

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my numbers. Uh, I know they had some
email issues in the beginning of the

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newspaper, but at some point, I would
think it would make sense to ensure

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there's some sort of confirmation of
proceed proceedings by email. Uh, also

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there should be some invoicing for these
publications and I know they have they

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switched over an account and so that
might not be current but along with the

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invoicing should be the affidavit of
publication and that should all be filed

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in the county office because the county
newspaper is supposed to be filed. So

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there has to be at least some way with
the staffing of this office that people

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can make sure the dad gum minutes are
posted in the dad gum paper and they are

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online or published in the paper and
they are placed online. it it it

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shouldn't be. Some of these are showing
up well after the next following board

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meeting. Uh and some accountability is
what I'm asking for. Um I did notice in

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the emails that that I was forwarded to
show the in communication. Uh one I

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believe is for the newspaper reporter
and the other one is actually for the

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the editor and the person that handles
sales. So, I'm not sure if there's a

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problem there, but I'm pointing it out
so it's looked into so that the citizens

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don't have to keep coming and saying,
"Where are the minutes?" And then

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everybody is mad. You know, the citizens
aren't, you know, grumpy because the

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minutes aren't there. But this is real.
There's like what was it? I said 13 out

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of 24 meetings and 25 were not
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That's that's not a good number. Um,
also one suggestion, uh, I can find, uh,

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on on the the website I use a lot, uh,
and I don't know if it's just a certain

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protocol that it's not done this way,
but when I go to a special meeting, I

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can find the agenda, but I have to go
back to the regular meeting that it was

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approved with to find the minutes. And
so I guess I feel like if the agenda can

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be posted separately for every
individual meeting, could the minutes

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for each special meeting be posted with
that agenda line? Because if a person

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doesn't think to realize that they're
all uh approved in a group, I found that

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in the beginning until I found out where
they were, but you have to dig through

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regular meeting minutes to find special
meeting minutes where you know, so they

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have an agenda line for that meeting.
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» the post the those minutes could be
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Um but that's just a suggestion for ease
of of use of the person a person using

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the website. Um
we still have a high you know our our

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county paper even and there are people
that use it, people that don't, people

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that go online. Uh citizens are still
looking for the publication of the

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minutes and I think it's a high priority
to ensure that the county is providing

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access to them in a timely and
consistent manner. I'm sure there's some

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kinks to work out with the newspaper
staff, but until those kinks are figured

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out, the blame is falling on the county
and the auditor's office. So maybe there

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could be some investigation of why the
minutes aren't being published and I

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think that's warranted so that the
problem can be resolved so that people

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can see the minutes wherever they might
be. Um, also in regards to posting

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things, I know when I sat through
meetings, I was heard time and again

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that the redistricting information was
going to be held online on the website,

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but there's nothing on the website. You
can find the redistricting minutes, but

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you know, I can as soon as the burn ban
went into place, there's a hot button

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right there's a burn ban, but the
redistricting information when people

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said they didn't see maps, they say go
on the county website and you can't find

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it. And I know there was the process of
it being filed, but yet we had people

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looking for candidacy. So that they
wanted to know where the lines were. And

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I get that there's Facebook, but not
everybody's on that either. And that's

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not the county's official website. So I
guess if you have a website, can you

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make sure that something like that that
was an important topic for the county be

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put there so that people can find the
information instead of having to dig?

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» That's what I have for you.

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Thank you.
>> Yep.

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Marsha, [clears throat]
>> I just want to say thank you. I

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appreciate you bringing it up to me
because when you did back in July, I did

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correct that immediately. So, I do
appreciate it and anybody who reaches

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out for meeting minutes or anything that
the board receives, I can send it to you

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immediately. Um, I will work out the
kinks with the paper and I appreciate

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you bringing that up. So, thank you.
>> Um, like I said, I I don't think it's

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all one side, but I there has to be a
way to I

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I'm very particular in how I said
things. So, it's if it's specifically I

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mean, I wrote the paper, right? So, I
mean, it's here's my article. Here it

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is. And then when I didn't hear back, I
would check back. But, you know, that's

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just articles, you know, stories about
these are minutes. And it would think

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that there'd be some sort of receipt.
But the the differences in the emails I

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think is a problem and who's receiving
them. Um and yeah, if we're if we're

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collecting the county newspaper and
finding them, [snorts] I think we'd be

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checking to see to make sure of the
publication. So it's it's a it's a full

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package teamwork thing, but it all comes
back here. So it needs to be fixed here

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and find out where the communication
problem is. because I was very surprised

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last night as I scrolled through all
those papers and I kept like I I can't

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believe I mean there was there was one
month where it was or one year it was a

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2024 I believe
um

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like cut out it just it just gets
[clears throat] missed right like there

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was 2025 it was all in May elder in May
and June they weren't I I did not find

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them anywhere paper. March was missing,
February was missing, but end of 2024

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was the [clears throat] the complete end
of the year. I looked into January. I

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scoured all those papers and I ended up
in 2025.

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[clears throat] Uh November two, two
meetings, December, three meetings, and

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yeah, no publication in the Pioneer. And
like I said, it's it can be a two-way

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thing, but if they're not being seen,
somebody needs to question where the

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emails went. So, so thank you for your
time. Nobody has questions. I'll let you

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get back to business.
>> Thank you.

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» Thank you.

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» Good.
>> Okay.

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» I'm going to just make a real quick
comment. The the 24 and 25 issues and

416
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:12,399
things. I can't explain that.
Just as we've asked for

417
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:19,120
understanding from the people, from the
citizens, um, this summer was

418
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,640
unprecedented.
Um,

419
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,799
I've talked with Marca a little bit
about the minutes and things from June

420
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:31,600
and July. There were lots of extra
meetings between redistricting board,

421
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:35,679
etc. Um,
the the comments are well taken. things

422
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:40,559
should get on track now that it's been
brought to the attention. But with the

423
00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:45,519
the vouchers, the hundreds and hundreds
of extra bills to process, everybody was

424
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:52,720
stressed. It's not just in defense of
the sheriff's office or EMS or DEES. The

425
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:57,200
entire county was put to task and
everyone,

426
00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:02,240
and I'm I'm new to this position. I'm I
had very little to do with with any

427
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:05,840
planning and prep prior, but um I guess
just in defense of of what happened

428
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:10,559
through May, June, and July with the
election, the redistricting, the America

429
00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:14,399
250, all the extra vouchers, you know, I
I hope that we can all get on track as a

430
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:21,519
county and that everybody can work
together and and things will get back to

431
00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:24,720
normal soon. um because the divisiveness
it's it's just not wellreceived and it

432
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:30,640
doesn't make the county in my opinion
look great. Um so with that uh

433
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:34,320
everybody's on notice that we have to
get back on track. So that that's the

434
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:38,159
only thing I would say to that. But I I
have spoken with Marcia about the the

435
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:42,320
minutes and other things, but when you
have dozens of extra meetings throughout

436
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:47,200
the the very busy period of time, I
think that's where some of the more

437
00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:51,440
recent things um got lost in the
shuffle. But I I would be remiss if I

438
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:56,480
didn't say that as well. Uh because
we've asked again for consideration of

439
00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:01,200
of every other department, every other
person, commissioner and things.

440
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:06,880
Anyway, that that's all I have to say on
that. So,

441
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:10,799
» okay. [clears throat] Thank you. That
more or less summed it up what I was

442
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:16,799
going to say, too. It's just been a busy
uh year. So, [clears throat] so we'll

443
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:25,120
we're trying to move forward and and
we'll um get get back going here. So,

444
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:28,640
um with that, we'll move on to the
unless someone else has something.

445
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:36,559
Commissioners.
Okay. We'll move on to the um department

446
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:42,960
head reports and um
I don't have any order. So who uh wants

447
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:46,840
to start?
Okay, Dale.

448
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:55,440
» Good morning.
>> Good morning.

449
00:33:52,320 --> 00:34:01,519
» Uh I don't have too much this month. Uh
there will be a voucher in there from

450
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:06,399
Bobcat for a little more this month. I'm
going to trade in our room. I got a

451
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:11,839
pretty good deal on it. I talk with
Steve over it. So that'll be in there

452
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:17,119
for
$4,000.

453
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:22,673
There's any questions on that?
That's all I've got.

454
00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:22,673
» Thank you. [clears throat]

455
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:42,923
Thank you.
They told me I had to go first. So that

456
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:46,800
the longwinded one would be done first.
[clears throat] Morning, commissioners,

457
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:51,839
chairman. Um part of you is our report
for August. Again, we are seeing record

458
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:55,679
call numbers. um
can't say that it's directly tied to one

459
00:34:53,520 --> 00:35:00,000
or the other because it's all across the
board of what we're seeing and so um I

460
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:05,680
think it's just going to be a busy year
the way it looks. So, um we did on board

461
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:09,599
Holly Boltz yesterday. So, Holly Bolts
is our new paramedic. So, after 3 months

462
00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:14,240
of having that open spot, it is filled
and she on boarded well yesterday. Our

463
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,440
EMT course is set to start the end of
September. Currently, we have five

464
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:21,200
students. Uh if Cody takes it, we'll
have six.

465
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:25,760
He's just sitting back in the back of
the room. Uh the RHTP funding that I

466
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:31,520
talked to you guys about last month, we
did submit for two over $200,000 worth

467
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:36,320
of RHTP funding. Uh update was that the
state had approved it and it went to

468
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:40,960
CMS's office in Washington DC. CMS will
approve it and then we'll get notice of

469
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:45,280
if they accept all of it or not. Uh we
did request a new cotton load system, uh

470
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:49,520
two power stair chairs, five video
alerting scopes, and then 30 800 series

471
00:35:47,839 --> 00:35:54,480
radios to switch over to the siren
system. So hopefully we see some of that

472
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:58,240
money. Um some of it was a little bit
outside the scope of what the the grant

473
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:02,880
was entailed for, but the state
encourages us to apply for nonetheless.

474
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:07,520
And then the last is going to be the
crew housing. Dean and I went to

475
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:12,079
Madora's meeting on Tuesday night. Uh
they did approve it. the permit

476
00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:15,839
contingent upon Jared and Sandy getting
together and drafting a development

477
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:21,160
agreement. And so just looking for the
next steps that we want to take from the

478
00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:21,160
county level.

479
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:32,880
Okay.
So [clears throat] you have um

480
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:38,640
we talked about it last month. We got
some uh estimates or some costs of of

481
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:43,200
this crew quarters out of uh Can we go
over those again from um

482
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,440
» Watford City? Y
>> you guys have them in front of you or

483
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:51,200
not?
>> Yep.

484
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:56,160
So, we're looking at a quote of 327399
and that's for the two buildings uh the

485
00:36:53,680 --> 00:37:02,880
transport the crane and then setting the
buildings along with the um raised patio

486
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:06,400
and the metal roof structure to go over
top of it. So, what's not included in

487
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:12,079
that quote is going to be the
electrical, the concrete work to build

488
00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:17,119
the foundations, um any prep work, uh
the sewer from the back of the fire and

489
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:20,160
amless garage, water hookups and all
that stuff is still going to have to be

490
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,920
according to Jared bid out. So,
according to Jared, we are good to go

491
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:30,000
ahead and purchase these. Correct Jared
as they are real estate transactions.

492
00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:34,800
That's already built real estate and not
something that we would have to put out.

493
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:40,640
But the rest should be put out prepared.
>> So there is um

494
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:47,280
there is no
great uh guidance on point for the

495
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:53,440
issue. Um, I did reach out to the
Association of Counties director um

496
00:37:51,599 --> 00:38:01,040
posing the situation cuz at the last
meeting or or one of the last uh it was

497
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:05,920
the August meeting when this came up um
there's going to be two sets of crew

498
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:11,280
quarters. The cost exceeds the $250,000
threshold combined. However, it's not

499
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:15,280
deemed a new construction where bids,
labor, material bids for labor and

500
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:21,119
materials, etc.
are

501
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:26,079
relevant. Um and so in proposing you
know what my thoughts were to the

502
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:30,560
president or director of the association
of counties just asking for guidance

503
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:37,599
direction statutory interpretation
otherwise. Um,

504
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:42,240
essentially the feedback was uh another
case of first impression. Hasn't been

505
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:46,800
hasn't been really uh discussed before,
but um

506
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,680
it it would be it would be a
construction public improvement.

507
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:55,119
However, it doesn't necessarily follow
the strict uh definition of a new

508
00:38:52,240 --> 00:39:01,440
construction and it would be akin to
buying used equipment under chapter 24.

509
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:06,640
So because the the crew quarters exist,
they are they are used. Um they already

510
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:10,480
built uh there would be no purpose in
bidding out

511
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:16,000
something that's pre-existing building
that can be purchased. So anything above

512
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:20,079
and beyond that, you know, that meets
the threshold for for bidding the

513
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:24,880
projects if again if there's plumbing,
concrete, other things that may need to

514
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:28,079
be bid depending on how that shapes out.
Uh I've not yet heard from the city

515
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:33,599
attorney [clears throat] on a
development agreement. Um but ultimately

516
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:39,040
with all things considered because this
is uh it's an existing opportunity that

517
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:42,640
is going to not be available soon and
the county would be looking at spending

518
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:48,079
way more money to build something
equivalent. Um everything points to

519
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:52,400
being appropriate to purchase what
exists uh without going through the bid

520
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:56,960
process because there is nothing
equivalent.

521
00:39:54,240 --> 00:40:02,622
So that that was the the due diligence
and looking into it and it's kind of a

522
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,622
blend of the 4802.1 [clears throat]

523
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:09,359
along with some some common sense uh
that it's a pre-existing building. So um

524
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:13,119
again statute doesn't give me much
direction and the Aaron burst um

525
00:40:12,392 --> 00:40:18,240
[clears throat] felt that it was
appropriate to to do what the county

526
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:21,240
intends to do at least not unlawful
anyway.

527
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:29,920
» Okay. [clears throat]
So,

528
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:36,628
I attended the the [clears throat] city
meeting and and the uh excuse me, that

529
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:39,200
they're they're on the uh oh, we
[clears throat] have a little bit of

530
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:43,440
issue with or the city has a little
issue with sewer

531
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:48,640
um
lift station, I guess you'd call it, and

532
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:55,200
and they seem to maybe got that remedied
through their uh city uh [clears throat]

533
00:40:51,359 --> 00:41:01,119
engineer And so they made a motion if if
we want to move forward, they made a

534
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:08,400
motion to let us move forward.
And so um with this uh the building and

535
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:13,119
then uh that [clears throat] way we can
get started sooner than later because of

536
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:16,480
the purchase date. Uh you can explain
that.

537
00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:19,680
» So um [clears throat] North Frontier
Companies is looking for an answer of

538
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:22,800
whether or not we're going to fund or
not. there's other people who are

539
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:27,760
interested in these buildings and so he
he doesn't want to keep holding on that

540
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:31,520
we're not too serious about
>> I would just like to point out from

541
00:41:29,359 --> 00:41:34,400
hearsay of other people building or
trying to do stuff in the door with the

542
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:38,240
development agreement how long it's
taken the process [clears throat] back

543
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:43,280
and [snorts] forth yes I haven't seen
firsthand just hearsay just so they

544
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:48,400
don't make you oh you got to upgrade
sewer now on your expense or something I

545
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:54,599
that's the only thing I want to point
out is how others have said I don't know

546
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:54,599
firsthand

547
00:41:54,640 --> 00:42:03,359
» and that is there is something to that
and so they discussed that the other

548
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:09,760
night and so um [clears throat]
we through the development agreement

549
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:11,760
which uh their attorney was going to you
guys have already discussed this once

550
00:42:11,359 --> 00:42:21,040
right
>> well I met with uh the city attorney on

551
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:25,359
last week Friday on other matters and
then I brought this to her attention. Um

552
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:29,599
I haven't heard from her since the
meeting on Tuesday night about the de

553
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:35,200
the development agreement. I understand
that there uh the city engineer has been

554
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:38,319
consulted. Um there's questions about
who is responsible for the lift station,

555
00:42:37,804 --> 00:42:42,319
[clears throat]
>> whether it's the foundation, whether

556
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:49,440
it's the city, whether it's the county.
um everybody's kind of been just

557
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:52,880
waiting for working together and
nobody's claimed responsibility for

558
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:57,200
whose it is is my understanding.
>> So the way it's sounded at that meeting

559
00:42:54,240 --> 00:43:01,440
and correct me if I'm wrong Dean but um
TRMF offered to give the city the

560
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:06,000
easement for the lift station and that
was all supposed to be drafted and done.

561
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:09,400
So the the TRMF is given access to all
that.

562
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,400
» Mhm.

563
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:17,280
» But to Steve's point, yeah, a
development agreement has implications.

564
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:22,319
Um obviously we have to make sure that
it's completely fair and right by the

565
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:27,599
county. But uh because EMS provides
services to the city, the city

566
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:32,560
should in all respects cooperate. It
sounds like they are. Um, and we'll get

567
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:38,000
as soon as I'm presented with a a
version of the development agreement.

568
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:41,680
Uh, I would say somewhat similar to uh,
you know, the development agreement for

569
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:45,359
the the library and other things, but
we'll need to go through there to make

570
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:50,000
sure that any foreseeable issues are
addressed before it's signed and then we

571
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:54,400
aren't spending a long period of time
waiting. But I I think uh it is

572
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:58,800
important to at least speak for those
buildings uh because again they they

573
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:02,800
will be gone sooner rather than later.
At the August meeting when we spoke

574
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,520
after the meeting concluded Kyle
Michaels and I made a phone call to him.

575
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,200
He said he would hold them through the
end of the month you know without

576
00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:14,160
offering them to anybody else. So it is
a

577
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:18,160
extinguishing or or uh
the time is short is what I'm trying to

578
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:22,960
say. So that that's the important part
is to to speak for them and say that the

579
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:26,160
county would would proceed
and whether they get moved right now is

580
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:30,680
a different issue. It's just so that
they aren't lost. Right.

581
00:44:31,775 --> 00:44:37,920
[clears throat] Talking with the city
council, uh they asked when we would

582
00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:41,599
like to see occupational date by and
when I said April 1st, they didn't see

583
00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:44,839
any issues with occupational date by
April 1st.

584
00:44:53,040 --> 00:45:01,920
We did ask Sandra Counz, the state
attorney or their city attorney, um

585
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:07,440
about the development agreement. It's
going to be coming this week, uh next

586
00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:11,440
week, whatever, right away. And didn't
figure it [clears throat] would take

587
00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:17,280
much to get it signed, get it. So, I'm
I'm half thinking that we might have to

588
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:21,760
agree to something today that we're
going to move forward or not move

589
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:26,000
forward and then we're going to have to
maybe have a special meeting once we see

590
00:45:24,319 --> 00:45:31,680
the development agreement what it's
going to cost so that we can't make a

591
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:39,280
motion on because we don't know what the
cost is. Could you do a a motion

592
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:44,079
contingent upon a proper development
agreement being provided or

593
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:48,560
» Sure. I I think
a a motion basically reflecting intent

594
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,920
to proceed I I think is fine. We don't
have the final numbers in place and the

595
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:56,880
development agreement would just be the
cooperation between the the two entities

596
00:45:54,640 --> 00:46:01,440
or three depending on how the foundation
if they're going to be included in it or

597
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:07,440
not. Um
but the the commission on the whole if

598
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:16,079
they want to move forward I think um
voting with the intent of proceeding

599
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:21,200
um should be fine. The the funds do seem
to be available. you know there was

600
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:26,800
additional earmarked funds um in each of
the budgets for you know dees and EMS um

601
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:31,839
and whether some additional has to come
out of the general fund and and there'd

602
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:34,839
be some budget u amendments that's to be
determined.

603
00:46:38,192 --> 00:46:46,480
[clears throat]
Okay. So um just to get with the budget

604
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:51,920
part, you have enough uh money to in
your budget for this year to

605
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:56,480
» So what I have in my budget if if our
budget continues to go as expected, I

606
00:46:54,079 --> 00:47:00,960
have 150,000 from the A250 since all
that came out of the emergency fund. And

607
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:06,319
we're probably looking at I'm returning
about 200,000ish.

608
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:09,359
Um, if we don't if we get this grand, we
don't have to purchase the C and all

609
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,680
that other stuff out of this year's
budget, we should have about 200,000.

610
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:19,880
So, that's about 350,000
that we should still have left in EMS's

611
00:47:15,839 --> 00:47:19,880
budget. Okay.

612
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:36,319
Then would we uh
if we move forward uh have to budget in

613
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:40,400
the 27 budget for the remainder the the
parts that we might have to bid out. Is

614
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,720
that what we're saying? Or is there more
money available?

615
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:50,480
Well, I think it would depend on how
fast they moved, but I also have the

616
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:55,680
8250 funds in there that that's at your
discretion. You saved here for the

617
00:47:53,200 --> 00:48:00,000
sheriff's office.
>> But if it's within 2027, you would just

618
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:03,280
have to have that as an amendment to the
budget.

619
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:07,599
» Okay? And we can still do that this
month.

620
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:12,640
» You could do it in the October meeting
because it's not going to affect the no

621
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:16,560
levy requirement. Um, we just probably
want it to be included in the final

622
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:20,079
budget just so that people are aware of
where it's going. [clears throat]

623
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,920
» And if we can get moving and get
concrete and implant and all that done

624
00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:28,720
yet this year, we have a good old
winter, we should we should be able to

625
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:33,528
get it together.
Just depends on what mother nature

626
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,528
decides to throw this [clears throat]

627
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,720
get more expensive next year.

628
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:46,400
Well, it's like I said last meeting, I'm
on board. I've seen these personally. I

629
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:51,200
think I think we're fools if we don't
because we're going to need them

630
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:54,400
visiting with Kyle in a year or two and
then it's going to cost us a lot of

631
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:58,319
money to hire a contractor to come in
and build something. I'm going to say

632
00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:02,319
probably fancier than these cuz that's
how it's going to be done. But these are

633
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:06,720
really nice units and I think they're
really cheap. So, if everything else

634
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:16,359
worked on the part of moving them down
here, I think we're would be wise to buy

635
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:16,359
these two and we would have our housing.

636
00:49:16,703 --> 00:49:24,160
[clears throat] Uh, Jim, is the intent
to buy them all redone or

637
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:26,880
» I I don't have my stuff. I forgot it.
>> Yeah. Well,

638
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,040
» the quote is to have them redone.
>> Yes.

639
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:34,000
» Okay.
>> And move, too.

640
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:39,839
» They're moving. moving was on on us on
the county. There is a quote for um a

641
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:46,640
moving truck inside of that
>> that we hired who his contractors um but

642
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:50,079
talking with Jim heard that from the
west that his guys could hook them up

643
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,960
and pull them down because he has the
trailer to do it.

644
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,960
» Yeah.

645
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:59,160
» Uh it's 2500 per building.

646
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,520
that's on that on this boat.

647
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:16,559
» I just think for the price and what
you're getting, it's it is rather

648
00:50:12,319 --> 00:50:20,640
reasonable. It is. They're nice units.
>> Just a note to make sure that if you do

649
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:25,359
move forward with this to make sure the
liability insurance is covered for those

650
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:29,839
buildings when they move them down.
Otherwise, it'd be under the contractor

651
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:33,394
that moved them. But
yeah, do you have cargo insurance?

652
00:50:31,374 --> 00:50:33,394
[laughter]

653
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:55,599
Okay. Well, is there any more questions
on this or any more concerns? Um,

654
00:50:52,000 --> 00:51:02,079
do we uh I guess it boils down to do we
want to move forward or don't we?

655
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:06,559
I I'm fine with this this deal. Um I
think it's going to be needed in the

656
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:13,119
future. Um
the city after Kyle explained everything

657
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:19,599
and and and we take care of the city.
Our ambulance takes care of the city and

658
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:23,040
they pay us to to
I don't know how much it is but uh over

659
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:28,079
200,000.
>> Yeah. A year.

660
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:33,520
And so we just need to keep it up and
and the fire department's going to I

661
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:36,960
think eventually need a room or two. And
so

662
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:41,680
um
that's my opinion, Steve.

663
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:48,000
» Yeah, I'm fine.
I'd move to approve the purchase of the

664
00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:51,440
two modular units for what's the number?
>> So it's a quote. Uh so there's still

665
00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:56,160
some stuff. Do you want to do a final
walk through next week? Would be welcome

666
00:51:53,760 --> 00:52:01,599
and do a final walk through. No. Yes.
Okay. Um with with the two units, one of

667
00:52:00,319 --> 00:52:04,960
the middle bedrooms is getting converted
to a laundry room and on the other

668
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:08,960
unit's getting converted into the office
space. And so he had concerns that he

669
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:13,280
didn't put the correct stuff into this
quote. He wanted us to come back up and

670
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:18,640
make sure that where we wanted the stuff
was correct with his quote. So the quote

671
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:25,280
right now is for 32739.
>> What was it? 327 399.

672
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:29,240
» And what was the company's name?
>> Next Frontier Company.

673
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:38,079
» And it'd be nice to have them do it
because he has a contractor there

674
00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:41,680
working on his where if we bring them
down here and do it, we would have to

675
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:46,640
sign a contractor
if you find one. And I don't know about

676
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:51,119
the price. he's given according to us a
break because his contractor is right

677
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:55,040
there stays there. So that's how we
started talking about having them just

678
00:52:53,119 --> 00:53:00,640
remodel what we needed what they needed
up there on these buildings. That way

679
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:04,880
it's just comes down and sits and you
won't have to f you know except for the

680
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,440
cement we have to do down here you know
but the buildings will be done

681
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:10,760
» the [clears throat] building and the
awning over.

682
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,960
» Okay. Well, [clears throat] we have we
have a motion on the table and then we

683
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:23,040
can do more discussion. Is there a
second to this motion

684
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:26,800
to purchase the two mod?
>> Okay.

685
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:30,800
» So, was that price going to change?
>> Possibly depending on if he has to move

686
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:33,920
» increase or decrease you
>> probably increase if he has to move

687
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,880
electric.
>> Did he give you a rough estimate?

688
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,720
Tell
>> he's got to do it. That's what the deal

689
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:45,920
is. That's what we approved.
Cuz

690
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:50,440
if they made a motion with up to
>> washer and dryer, he's looking at 3,300

691
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,480
» 3330.

692
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:05,760
» So if you made the motion of 328
or no, what' you say? How many?

693
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:09,839
» So it's 327 399 without So he included
this other thing. He came the other one

694
00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:14,160
for the electrical work. So electrical
work is not included in this which

695
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,359
doesn't mean we have to have it done up
there for electrical. We can use our

696
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,200
local electrical company too to do it
down there

697
00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:22,800
» and then that'll have to be bid out
anyway. [clears throat]

698
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:26,720
» That can be in on the bid on the other
stuff. Yeah.

699
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:32,200
» So like Steve said, maybe he'll do it
all for that price. If not, then maybe

700
00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:32,200
we'll have to do it down here.

701
00:54:32,417 --> 00:54:34,437
[clears throat]

702
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:42,952
» What? How can we say no [clears throat]
to you? Right.

703
00:54:40,932 --> 00:54:42,952
» [snorts]

704
00:54:44,319 --> 00:54:49,920
» Well, would it make more sense to, and I
don't want to interfere because there's

705
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:55,200
a motion on the table, but for
discussion purposes, to table the issue

706
00:54:53,359 --> 00:55:00,880
of of the price until we have a
development agreement and call a special

707
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:06,400
meeting to go over all of it at once or
so that Kyle can confirm that that the

708
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:10,559
county is moving forward, we should get
something in place or

709
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:16,559
um
increase the amount just to say, you

710
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:19,280
know, x amount not to exceed
whatever. But it's it's tough to

711
00:55:17,839 --> 00:55:23,200
estimate unless we know,
>> right? Unless we know. [clears throat]

712
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:26,319
» Yeah. But I don't I guess I like to keep
mine set like that because I don't want

713
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:32,079
to leave an open book and then he says,
"Oh, you guys have up to 350,000." Well,

714
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:38,520
hey, another 10,000.
So, we have a little bit of

715
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,520
way to go.

716
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:45,440
Okay.
So, it's still,

717
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:50,240
» huh?
>> Yeah, it's still Do you want to change

718
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:54,480
your motion or you want to leave it? I
like to leave it.

719
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:57,200
Okay,
>> I agree. I think you should leave it and

720
00:55:56,258 --> 00:55:59,520
[clears throat] see if they'll do it for
that and not We'll worry about it down

721
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:05,280
here.
>> Yeah,

722
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:10,079
» we'll see how big you are.
Well, I think you're shopping for

723
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:13,520
» I I agree with
>> Okay. That way we have something set.

724
00:56:12,633 --> 00:56:15,599
[clears throat and cough]
>> So,

725
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:19,440
» we have purchased the buildings and all
that. So, it's just a matter of

726
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:24,799
» and we're moving forward, too.
>> So, we have a motion. Is there a second

727
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,760
to the motion and the way it is?
>> I'll second.

728
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:31,960
» We have a second.
>> Now, do we have any more discussion?

729
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:45,280
Okay. All those in favor say I.
>> I. I. All those opposed say I.

730
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:49,200
Motion carries.
>> I have nothing else. Unless you guys

731
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:52,599
have any questions, concerns.
>> Thank you then.

732
00:56:52,720 --> 00:57:00,160
» Yep. Do you want to request that you can
get the case for

733
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:03,480
» you want or you want to wait till
development agreement

734
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:14,400
» at least get your bids. You don't have
to accept it.

735
00:57:10,799 --> 00:57:17,534
» They can approve that next meeting.
Well, [clears throat]

736
00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:24,559
I guess um
>> are we questioning are we throwing in

737
00:57:22,799 --> 00:57:28,240
the same [clears throat] when they come
out? We'll have to figure that out cuz

738
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:31,240
that's just
>> Yeah.

739
00:57:33,839 --> 00:57:43,680
So, who's going to draw up the plan
that's going to be bid out? So he has

740
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:47,200
the the foundations already drawn out to
fix

741
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:52,319
» and so we just need to get that from him
and then we can put it in the bid packet

742
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:57,359
and send it out.
>> Is that good? Will that work?

743
00:57:54,400 --> 00:58:01,839
» Yeah, we have a just a generic bid
process through the county. But if they

744
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:08,559
just put in the specs that they need for
it, um it can be published for 3 weeks.

745
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:12,160
» Okay.
is that

746
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:15,280
» the only other addition which I'm not
familiar with. I'm going to throw it out

747
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:19,839
and see who knows more. But the only
other suggestion from the association of

748
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:24,000
counties was in bidding the rest of the
work to be done. There may need to be

749
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:29,200
some architectural sign off, you know,
for approvals and this and that. We may

750
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:33,920
need to add that to the RFP as well for
for an architect to say that

751
00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:37,920
everything's up to code and spec. And if
they wanted to work with an engineer to

752
00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:44,760
do that to get the big package together
and make sure that they have the right

753
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,760
language that would

754
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:52,799
» I think just giving them the direction
to work with an architect to

755
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:57,680
» like it's going to be expensive to bring
the architect in

756
00:58:54,400 --> 00:59:01,200
» engineer. Yeah.
But they I think it sounded like they

757
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:09,119
wanted that through the development
agreement as well to have an ar engineer

758
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:13,040
sign off on the design.
>> That could be I I wasn't at the meeting

759
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:17,040
with the city so I'm not sure what was
said and Sandy has not reached out to me

760
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:23,760
quite yet. So
>> well we also have like our county code

761
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:27,826
inspector that could do those
requirements.

762
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:30,720
» Yeah,
[clears throat]

763
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:34,240
we approved them last month for another
year. Yeah. Okay.

764
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,799
But do you [clears throat] want to see
what's in the development agreement in

765
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:42,720
case there's other little things that
need to be added? Then you put it all at

766
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,280
once.
>> You can get that all ready and start it.

767
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,319
But I don't know if you want to admit
it. Oh yeah, Casey. You got to there's

768
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:53,359
something that development agreement
that we do end up having to do. Then we

769
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:57,599
have to change it. Yep.
>> I think we're going to have to have a

770
00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:02,079
special meeting after the uh development
agreement is looked over and decided

771
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:05,200
upon. Okay.
>> I think he can get it all ready to go

772
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,480
his end, right?
>> Yeah.

773
01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:14,280
» Just might need to add to it.
>> And we're going to be 2 3 months behind

774
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,280
now.

775
01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:23,280
» Did you want to say no? Well, the only
thing I would say is having dealt with

776
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:30,400
the city on development agreements and
uh with the library,

777
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:37,359
uh if the city attorney is going to
uh put in the same kinds of clauses,

778
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:42,880
uh I would suspect that
on their side they're going to be asking

779
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:49,047
the county to assume a lot more
responsibility and liability than one

780
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:54,720
would expect for a project like this.
[snorts]

781
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:59,359
I would uh Mr. Chairman,
uh just encourage your states attorney

782
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:04,079
to get a hold of the proposed
development agreement

783
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:08,240
and you can take a look [clears throat]
at uh the existing development

784
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:12,799
agreements and all of the
indemnification requirements [snorts]

785
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:16,240
and bonding and everything else and
you'll get a pretty good idea what

786
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:21,200
you're going to be dealing with.
No, and I have reviewed the development

787
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:27,920
agreement prior um
and at least for the library's purposes

788
01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:31,680
and uh
that's that's a long story not for this

789
01:01:29,839 --> 01:01:36,079
discussion, but the point is well taken
that yes, we'll need to make sure that

790
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:42,319
that everything is fair and that there's
no undue uh liability or indemnification

791
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:47,359
on the county um if the city is going to
partner with us to get this done.

792
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:51,599
and and at the meeting they they'll
acknowledge that yeah we need the abence

793
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:56,512
service we're going to help move
forward. So I'm hoping that it's a

794
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:59,760
little bit better than before.
[clears throat]

795
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:04,319
So okay. So then I think we'll just
leave that alone then for now until we

796
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,880
get that development agreement. We
>> got it worked out and ready to go and

797
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,920
we'll have it for that next meeting.
>> All right.

798
01:02:07,359 --> 01:02:11,160
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

799
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:20,520
Uh who wants to go next? Uh, sorry.
>> A dean, are you okay?

800
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,720
» We had somebody else on the agenda,
right?

801
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:29,520
» Oh, we do at a certain time here.
>> Yeah. 9:45.

802
01:02:27,839 --> 01:02:32,880
» Oh, okay.
>> Went a little longer than

803
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,880
» So, is Ian here for the uh Dickson
Public Library?

804
01:02:33,839 --> 01:02:37,780
» I surely am.
>> Okay. Sorry about that.

805
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,720
» Oh, not a problem. I know this deal
[clears throat] with big stuff and I

806
01:02:39,359 --> 01:02:46,839
know you have no shortage of paperwork,
but I have a little more for you.

807
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,839
» Okay. Thank you.

808
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:51,119
» Sorry [clears throat] I didn't see your
>> Oh, not a problem at all.

809
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,920
Well,
>> good morning, commissioners. Thank you

810
01:02:52,319 --> 01:02:58,720
for having me. I won't take up too much
of your time. I know you're busy. Every

811
01:02:56,319 --> 01:03:01,839
year I do an annual report for the
various commissions that work in

812
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:06,160
partnership with the Dickinson Area
Public Library. And so, this is the one

813
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:11,520
here focused on Billings County. We
actually had a pretty good year in 2025.

814
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:15,119
Um, Billings County continues to
overachieve as far as library metrics

815
01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:18,559
go. You guys make us look really good
when we provide this report to the

816
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:23,599
state. So, thank you, Billings County
residents. Um, we we saw 12% increase in

817
01:03:21,839 --> 01:03:27,839
library card holders here for Billings
County residents. So, we're we're up to

818
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:30,799
341 active library card users. That
number is a little higher, but we're

819
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:35,920
only tracking the ones that have been
used in the year of the report. So,

820
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:42,079
2025.
Um, the bookmobile traveled 14,000 miles

821
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:47,440
this last year and 5,320
of them were here in Billings County.

822
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:52,720
One of the impressive stats I've got
here for you is 58% of the items that

823
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:58,799
circulated off the bookmobile. That was
about just shy of 3,000 items. 58% of

824
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:03,599
those circulated right here in Billings
counties. Our Billings County residents

825
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:06,720
seem to be making really active use of
that bookmobile and the books we've got

826
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:11,200
there at both Fairfield and the school
here. So

827
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:16,160
really exceptional numbers.
Similarly, digital circulation here for

828
01:04:13,839 --> 01:04:20,640
our Billings County residents is
exceptionally high. 62% of our

829
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:25,839
registered Billings County users utilize
services like coupon living. Uh it's

830
01:04:22,799 --> 01:04:29,039
ebooks, audio books, movies, comics, uh
things provided to Billings, county

831
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:34,079
residents at no charge that come with
that library card.

832
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:39,920
You guys are big consumers of that that
media and those books. Um many of these

833
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:44,000
cards are for children and so we've got
a highly literate population here. So

834
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:47,119
big readers, folks actively pursuing
that continuing education seemingly

835
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:52,240
outside of school. So it's really
exciting to see. I wish my numbers down

836
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:55,359
in Splat County looked quite so good.
So, and I know I'm going kind of fast,

837
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:59,200
but are there any questions on any of
the information I provided there for

838
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:02,400
you? Um, there is a broader report
there, too, if there is interest in more

839
01:05:00,799 --> 01:05:06,880
information, but I did try to confine
this to Billings County in the interest

840
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:10,640
of time. Um, it's a big 20page report we
provide to the state every uh every

841
01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:14,400
year, and I figured you probably didn't
want to go through every one of those

842
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:17,839
today.
>> It is kind of interesting statistics you

843
01:05:16,319 --> 01:05:22,880
provide there.
>> Yeah, like I said, you guys are very

844
01:05:19,839 --> 01:05:26,319
impressive every year. Um, it's really
awesome to see how much engagement we're

845
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:31,680
getting from the folks who are out here
utilizing the bookmobile. Um, it it our

846
01:05:29,839 --> 01:05:35,200
our bookmobile librarian, Becky, was
really excited when I put this together

847
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:39,039
and showed it to her before I came out
to talk to you guys. And I guess a

848
01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:45,200
little bit of broader information for
you um, as far as library governance

849
01:05:42,319 --> 01:05:49,680
right now. Um, we when I returned in
2024 to the Dickinson Area Public

850
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:54,559
Library, we did some outreach. We tried
to get a member of each of the counties

851
01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:59,119
onto our library boards. You guys have a
a louder voice. We just hadn't had one

852
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:02,559
for a long time. And presently the the
president of the Dickson area public

853
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:06,319
libraries library board is our Billings
County representative.

854
01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:13,680
She has been awesome. So, thank you guys
so much for foring us with

855
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:16,720
such a strong champion for the library.
Yeah, that's really what I have for you.

856
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:20,880
If there are any questions, I'd be happy
to feel them. Like I said, I know it's

857
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:26,319
fast pace, but I don't want to hold you
up another other way.

858
01:06:23,359 --> 01:06:32,960
» Well, thank you for that report. And uh
um I know we see the the the truck here.

859
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:36,640
I think it's the truck the bookmobile.
>> And it's once a week to both schools. Is

860
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,440
that how it is?
>> That's correct.

861
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:44,000
» That's right. Okay.
>> Well, I know it's been there for a long

862
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:48,160
time. So, our kids used it back, you
know. [clears throat]

863
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:51,520
» Yeah. We've got a we've got a stack of
library cards that we keep on hand for

864
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,640
everybody. [snorts] Becky knows all
those kids by name. It's pretty

865
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:59,680
impressive if you come in and see her at
work with them. It's it's kind of hard

866
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:01,520
work, honestly. It's it's great to see.
>> All right. Well, thank you then.

867
01:07:00,799 --> 01:07:06,039
» Thanks for coming.
>> Thank you for your time, guys. I

868
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,039
appreciate it.

869
01:07:06,331 --> 01:07:08,351
[clears throat]

870
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:18,599
» So, yeah. Go ahead, Neon.
Okay.

871
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,599
Morning commission

872
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,680
numbers.

873
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:44,319
So from August of 2025, we're at 144
calls for the month. August of 2026,

874
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:50,319
we're at 172 calls. So, we're up 28
calls from last August, just like EMS. I

875
01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:55,039
mean, we're seeing a a big increase just
from call volume. And uh I was just

876
01:07:53,520 --> 01:08:00,079
talking to Chris Blackwell here the
other night and he said they are at

877
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:04,799
100,000 visitors now at the library
since it opened in July. So, that's kind

878
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:10,960
of crazy. I don't think I certainly
didn't expect that, but uh um that was

879
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:17,240
kind of impressive to hear, I guess. I
don't know if anybody has any questions

880
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:17,240
on our report there.

881
01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:28,799
» I just had a couple of other things.
>> Okay, go ahead.

882
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:33,359
» Um, we should have all of our vouchers
in for the A250 event now. And I think

883
01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:37,520
we mentioned it earlier, but we'll be
meeting with the Northakota Department

884
01:08:34,799 --> 01:08:42,617
of Emergency Services on September the
14th to discuss reimbursement.

885
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:46,799
Um, so yeah, nice to have
[clears throat] one of the commissioners

886
01:08:43,759 --> 01:08:51,279
or whoever um attend. I know Dean,
you've done a lot of that before or

887
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:57,359
Jim's my portfolio holder or whatever,
but be nice to have, you know, one of

888
01:08:53,759 --> 01:09:01,359
the commissioners attend that. Um the
sheriff's office responded to a couple

889
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:07,359
of calls involving uh salesmen going
door todoor after dark and uh sounded

890
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:12,960
pretty suspicious. We investigated that,
found out that it was related to an

891
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:19,920
aerial photography company basically and
uh he was out knocking on doors uh you

892
01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:23,839
know 9:15 9:30 at night and kind of
startled some people which I could see

893
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:28,000
why. Um, but I reached out to the
company and talked to them and just

894
01:09:25,679 --> 01:09:32,080
suggested that they uh they make their
contacts during daylight hours. Um,

895
01:09:30,799 --> 01:09:35,199
anyway, it sounds like they're going to
do that. This is kind of the time of the

896
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:40,239
year. I guess I'll do that. But they
take pictures of homestead or farmsteads

897
01:09:37,679 --> 01:09:44,319
basically and then try and distribute,
you know, and sell basically the

898
01:09:41,759 --> 01:09:48,960
photographs. But, uh, it was funny. You
could just tell there was a big uptick

899
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:54,239
cuz, uh, they were out and about pretty
pretty strong there for a while.

900
01:09:51,440 --> 01:10:01,520
Um, the only other comments I guess I
would like to make uh in regards to

901
01:09:58,239 --> 01:10:08,480
whether you call it a bonus or exemplary
service or special act award or

902
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:14,080
whatever. Um, I too was a part of the
1988 wildfire effort and dealt with a

903
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:17,840
lot of these wildfires as a federal
wildfire uh firefighter.

904
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:21,920
I mean, there's nights that we didn't
get to go home. when we had to stay on

905
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:26,880
CS in the community center. But what I
would say is that that event is

906
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:32,480
relatively short-lived compared to what
this event was. The size, the scope,

907
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:38,320
it's different. Um, from the planning
efforts that went in from a year and a

908
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:42,080
half ago to where we're at. Um, there
was a lot of work and I'm not the only

909
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:47,679
one that did it. I mean, it was a team
effort. I mean, everybody put a lot of

910
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:52,719
time in. my staff, uh, Kyle Shockley,
Kyle Michaels, I mean, everybody stepped

911
01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:56,080
up. City Fire Department, I don't think
people realize the amount of work and

912
01:10:54,320 --> 01:11:02,134
effort that goes into an event like
that. and to basically be a part of a

913
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:05,840
situation where there's been
[clears throat] threats on the

914
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:10,000
president's life and to know that
basically throughout the event I'm not

915
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:14,239
going to take any credit for that that
we didn't have any of those issues or

916
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:17,920
whatever uh that crept up because I can
tell you I have a lot of sleepless

917
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:22,960
nights that came about it small
community I think that's why the secret

918
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:27,360
service the FBI all the partners took it
seriously and yeah it did cost a lot of

919
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:31,040
money and it was a lot of effort
But there was a lot of time and effort

920
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:38,239
that went into it. And going back to the
wildfires in 88. I mean, there was the

921
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:43,600
sheriff was uh given an award back then.
So, I guess my point now is what's the

922
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:49,600
difference now? I mean, why is it any
different than what uh has been done in

923
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:54,080
the past? And uh you know, yeah, I take
full responsibility as a sheriff, but I

924
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:59,040
can tell you there's a lot of extra work
that went in. I didn't ask for this

925
01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:04,960
event to basically happen, but you think
about it, it's a once in a-lifetime

926
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:08,480
event that took place 250 years. And uh
that was pretty impressive. That'll

927
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:12,400
probably go out as the pinnacle of my
career. Actually, thinking about that

928
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:16,800
and thinking about all [clears throat]
the people that we came in contact with

929
01:12:14,159 --> 01:12:20,000
in the end, people were safe. We had a
lot of heat related, you know,

930
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:25,520
emergencies or whatever that happened.
But uh you know we got a lot of

931
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:31,360
accolades from the Secret Service, the
FBI, BCI, I mean everybody that was

932
01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:35,920
involved to come into a small community
where the president actually spent the

933
01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:40,560
entire day and it was planes, trains,
and automobiles from the time that they

934
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:46,400
put down up at Painted Canyon, then
taking the motorcade into Midora, seeing

935
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:52,960
all the moving parts and yeah, you know,
it to the end uh I think it was very

936
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:58,159
successful and uh because if it didn't
go successful we would have heard about

937
01:12:54,640 --> 01:13:03,199
it and uh you know the buck would have
stopped right on my desk and that's fine

938
01:13:00,719 --> 01:13:08,880
I'll take the responsibility but um and
I also appreciate the fact that uh we

939
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:13,040
did have uh commissioners that were
engaged and wanted to be part of that or

940
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:17,520
whatever and there were no public
discussions there were no county

941
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:21,600
business or whatever that took place as
far as minutes being need to be kept

942
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:26,239
kept or whatever. They were just there
showing support, part of my portfolio

943
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:30,480
holder. I mean, they saw the early
morning, the late nights, uh sometimes

944
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:35,840
getting called out in the middle of the
night. Uh it was a lot. And and people

945
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:42,159
that are not part of it, they don't
understand. And uh and I wish you know

946
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:46,400
and I've heard throughout the community
that you know there's people that are

947
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:49,600
going out talking to people that you
know this all goes into Dean's

948
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:53,760
retirement. It didn't go into my
retirement. I mean it was basically a

949
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:57,520
onetime payment. I can show you my leave
and earnings statement if anybody would

950
01:13:55,199 --> 01:14:02,400
like to see it. It took up a lot of
taxes but that's but it's not about the

951
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:08,640
money. It's about the recognition. And I
want to say thank you to all of you guys

952
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:15,199
basically for the recognition of
allowing uh you know an event like that

953
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:18,080
to uh to support it to be part of it and
because we couldn't have done it without

954
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:22,719
everybody. I mean that's from the road
crew to everybody involved even Katie

955
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:26,159
was involved with the wheat crew and
some of the stuff that she had to do

956
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:33,440
with some of the early on with the
glamping. So definitely a team effort

957
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:38,800
and uh I'm proud of how it took place.
So and I'll defend it to the end. And uh

958
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:42,800
I also want to say I just want to make
one thing straight for the public

959
01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:48,000
record. Pat Ruml's taken a lot of heat
for stuff that's he had nothing to do

960
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:51,920
with. So from the food contract, I
signed it as a sheriff. I take full

961
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:55,840
responsibility for that. everything was
done in the light and I would be happy I

962
01:14:54,400 --> 01:15:00,480
would have been happy to answer any
questions that came in directly and we

963
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:04,880
could have avoided all the garbage that
happened in the the newspaper and

964
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:09,040
everything else cuz you know you only
see one side of the story and you don't

965
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:16,640
know all the facts but Pat had nothing
to do with that uh I uh you know I just

966
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:20,640
want to leave it there but uh I
appreciate everybody thank you

967
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:23,840
» thank you for [clears throat]
everythinging

968
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:29,199
Thank you.
>> And I I would make one addition, you

969
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:34,640
know, this this event was not over on
July 5th.

970
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:38,000
Um the the multiple agencies and crews
for the county that that cleaned up the

971
01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:43,440
school, cleaned up the grounds, did
everything else. [laughter] I can't

972
01:15:39,679 --> 01:15:47,280
speak to certain aspects of it, but the
county is not still not done. We're

973
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:51,280
sitting here in September now. There are
still

974
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:54,960
things being followed up on through the
federal government that involved the

975
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:59,440
sheriff's department. There's still
things that took place during that week

976
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:03,679
that are still being dealt with and
addressed. So, it's not just July 5th

977
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:07,280
got here, Monday we went back to normal.
Um, the sheriff's department's been

978
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:11,520
involved with the federal government and
and agencies dealing with things because

979
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:15,600
of what took place in those 7 to 10 days
around here. it it I you know can't say

980
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:19,360
any more than that about it but it's not
that it was just over and done and and

981
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:23,280
we all went back to it. There's there's
the reimbursement, there's more

982
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:28,719
meetings, there's um [clears throat]
there's getting all the the vouchers

983
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:33,520
submitted. So, and and I know very
little about the the hours follow up,

984
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:38,800
but I I know that it took, you know,
quite an effort to to clean up cuz that

985
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:43,840
the the command center that the school
uh

986
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:47,679
allowed for was was quite impressive. Um
but that took a lot of time to to get

987
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:52,480
back to normal, to get it in shape, for
for school to begin. So, um but that's

988
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:57,679
just the followup since you know in the
last throughout the rest of July and all

989
01:16:54,719 --> 01:16:57,679
the month between us.

990
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:09,593
Okay. [clears throat]
Yeah, I I'd like to add a couple things.

991
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:12,159
Um the uh that event was very well uh
[clears throat]

992
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:17,040
I guess you'd call it planned and
planned in advance. There was a lot of

993
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:26,640
planning going on to to make this event
safe and uh a successful event and and

994
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:31,600
getting to where uh uh commissioners
were at this. I was asked by my

995
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:36,448
portfolio holder Kyle to be there. I was
also on the fire department doing fire

996
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:40,400
department things and
>> [clears throat]

997
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:47,199
» uh part of that crew. So, you know, I
was uh

998
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:51,679
I wasn't there in a commissioner uh um
part of it and there was no meetings,

999
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:58,880
there was no anything. We we attended as
much as we could, helped when needed. Um

1000
01:17:54,640 --> 01:18:02,080
that's just part of the deal. Um
there was there I don't see anything

1001
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:08,320
wrong with what how [snorts] that shook
out. So, um, we had a very successful

1002
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:13,440
deal and we're going to try to finish up
here in September, I hope. And

1003
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:17,840
hopefully, uh, we get some, uh, the
governor sees everything we've done,

1004
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:22,960
which he has, and we're going to go out
and meet with him on, uh, I think it's

1005
01:18:19,679 --> 01:18:27,880
September 14th, so try and get this kind
of all done and cleared out.

1006
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:36,719
All right. Anything else?
All right. So, do we want to move to

1007
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:41,800
Stacy or another department? Stacy, are
you ready?

1008
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,800
» What?

1009
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:53,080
» I mean, there isn't anybody here.
>> No, there you're the Misty Hayes, which

1010
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:53,080
she isn't here yet, but

1011
01:18:53,280 --> 01:19:00,000
» Okay. You want to do it now? Yeah, sure.
>> Huh?

1012
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:02,640
» I didn't expect that.
>> What's that? said she's going to be done

1013
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,600
in 10 minutes.
>> Oh, well, we'll time you. We'll time

1014
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:09,239
you.
>> We're going to time you

1015
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,000
» actually

1016
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:39,600
Okay. So, this is the report from August
20th. We have three um applications on

1017
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:44,000
the agenda. Application for a major
subdivision, a preliminary plot for

1018
01:19:42,159 --> 01:19:48,800
Little Missouri second subdivision.
There's a um timber frame signs that

1019
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:55,040
would need a variance, and then John
Shrock has an application for a

1020
01:19:51,040 --> 01:20:01,040
temporary um condition use for RB.
And so the Madora Foundation, they're

1021
01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:06,480
working on a subdivision west of town.
We've been reviewing this for um a few

1022
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:10,719
months now. There's seven lots total.
This is still preliminary. So I'm just

1023
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:15,360
going to just introduce you to the
project because the final plat would be

1024
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:19,360
on the agenda for September and then you
guys would review and approve the final

1025
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:24,400
plat.
But for the most part, they're splitting

1026
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:28,880
up the existing uses at the campground.
And then the fire haul is on its own

1027
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:36,000
parcel. The city pool is on its own
parcel. And then there's three four

1028
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:43,199
three other parcels. And one is for the
um rodeo arena and then two lots would

1029
01:20:40,719 --> 01:20:47,520
be available for development, but
there's no plans right now. And so the

1030
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:52,320
zoning board approved the preliminary
plat as continue as presented and then

1031
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:58,640
they'll continue on with the final plat
that cleans up all of the plants

1032
01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:05,280
documentation. And then
so the Madora Foundation down by the

1033
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:11,520
golf course application 2026-34
would need a motion and approval for

1034
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:16,239
today. Um they're planning to put the I
know like ranch entrance signs like

1035
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:21,199
heavy timber frame entrance signs over
the the ranch at bully pulpit um

1036
01:21:18,496 --> 01:21:26,080
[snorts] event barn that one was
basically approved as presented because

1037
01:21:23,679 --> 01:21:32,960
it's not within our county rightaway but
where bully pulpit is we have a

1038
01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:38,239
120 foot rightway on either side of
Bible camp road and where they want to

1039
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:47,480
put the timber frame sign is within to
county's right away. And so it's about

1040
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:47,480
30 feet or so into the rideway. It's

1041
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:58,199
approximately
or 77 ft or so from the center of road.

1042
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:07,920
So this is what the entrance signs look
like. you know, they're just heavy

1043
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:13,840
timber frame at the top and then post at
the bottom and then um variance has been

1044
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:17,280
requested for
something.

1045
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:23,760
» How come they don't just go further onto
theirs then? Uh they looked at it and

1046
01:22:20,719 --> 01:22:28,639
like where
>> it's pretty hard because uh they showed

1047
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:34,000
us and I drove down there too cuz you're
going to get uphill a little bit more

1048
01:22:30,639 --> 01:22:38,560
and then where the road that goes to the
>> uh to the side parking you know

1049
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:43,760
» they'll be in that road already. They'd
have to move that road too. So, do you

1050
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:48,232
know where I meet going east? They have
a little extra parking.

1051
01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:53,760
» This slide shows like where it would
[cough] be like it's about 120 ft or so

1052
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:57,120
from the middle of Bible camp road. And
then um there's that rough

1053
01:22:55,440 --> 01:23:01,920
» it would be right before the main
parking area of parking lot. And so they

1054
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:08,320
want to put the post like basically in
the ditch. And you know our normal

1055
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:12,320
rideway for for roads is 75 ft on either
side. And then so [clears throat]

1056
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:17,040
because of the train around here, we got
120 ft for this project, but this is

1057
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:22,719
kind of a flatter area, too. It's not
part of the the hills, but they just did

1058
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:27,840
120 ft through the whole sweep.
>> So, question for Jared. What happens

1059
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:32,080
someone hits that steel that wood sign
versus a breakaway stop sign far as

1060
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:36,320
liability?
>> That came up in planning and zoning.

1061
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:41,120
Okay. Um,
>> we can only be so big. Well,

1062
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:45,120
» it can only be so big. I mean, that's
for the rightway. So,

1063
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:47,600
» yeah, the the likelihood
and and there is indemnification

1064
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:50,320
language in there.
>> Okay.

1065
01:23:48,639 --> 01:23:54,239
» And Stacy's got a copy. She'll give me
that. But, um, they assume full

1066
01:23:52,560 --> 01:24:00,159
responsibility. The problem with a
breakaway sign is is that type of a

1067
01:23:57,440 --> 01:24:03,440
structure. You hit that and then
>> Well, I get that. I just didn't know

1068
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:05,520
liability wise. Yeah. I It can't be
that.

1069
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:08,159
» They have the indemnification language.
They take responsibility for All right,

1070
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:12,320
that clarifies.
>> So like our ERW applications for

1071
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:16,719
construction at the rightway, it has all
that language in it and but it

1072
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:22,400
references approaches and so it's
basically like um the condition is to

1073
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:27,199
approve with the condition that um that
the application to construct within the

1074
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:31,280
rightway. Whenever the word approach is
used, we would just replace it with the

1075
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:36,000
sign. And they they realize that cuz our
application is more geared for like the

1076
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:40,960
coaches, but we have other construction
within the rightway too. And so I

1077
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:49,000
highlighted the areas and orange on the
application that cover [clears throat]

1078
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:49,000
the construction here and you know

1079
01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:00,480
that answer your question.
>> Yeah. Okay.

1080
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:08,880
Okay. Is there anything else or
>> No, not with this application. It would

1081
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:12,400
just be approved with the the condition
>> with the condition.

1082
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:16,320
» Yeah. Cuz the the application on there
has several conditions. So, we don't

1083
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:19,560
need to list everything, but it's just a
matter of

1084
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:24,480
» Well, does everyone
>> referencing the

1085
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:30,400
» understand everything? Then you're good.
Uh you're good. Someone want to make a

1086
01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:34,159
motion to accept this uh
um permit?

1087
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,600
I don't see the number again now.
>> I put it up on the screen.

1088
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,679
» Okay,
>> I'll make that motion.

1089
01:25:36,719 --> 01:25:40,639
» Oh, yeah. There we go.
>> I'll second it.

1090
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:45,040
» Have a motion in a second. Is there any
more discussion on it?

1091
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:50,400
» All those in favor say I.
>> I.

1092
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:53,400
» I. Motion carries.
>> Okay.

1093
01:25:54,239 --> 01:25:57,360
» Oh, yeah.

1094
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:29,120
Okay. Other application on the agenda,
Esador, John, and Irene Shrock. They

1095
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:34,080
purchased um three lots in Frank's Creek
subdivision on the south end of that

1096
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:38,239
subdivision and they have an application
to build a shop with living quarters and

1097
01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:43,360
then during the construction of the
home, they requested to live in their RV

1098
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:49,360
until um they're able to live in the
house. And so this is a conditional use

1099
01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:53,760
application. Um,
oh, we have it in our ordinance that,

1100
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:59,040
you know, you can live in an RV up to
one year while you're constructing your

1101
01:26:55,280 --> 01:27:04,320
home. Um, and so the zoning board
approved

1102
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:09,280
this one um with the condition that it
would just be for for up to one year

1103
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:14,320
during the the house. So there and they
have their application filed for their

1104
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:17,679
house and so they'll be starting
relatively soon. they have their sewer

1105
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:25,600
and water application and so that will
probably go in first. Um well they get

1106
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:31,199
the utilities and everything to start
the house.

1107
01:27:28,639 --> 01:27:36,400
So that's what we just
condition to allow the RV temporary

1108
01:27:33,679 --> 01:27:39,280
living quarters for.
>> So [clears throat] do we have to make a

1109
01:27:37,679 --> 01:27:44,040
motion for that?
>> We do approve the conditional use.

1110
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:49,600
All right.
So,

1111
01:27:48,159 --> 01:27:54,960
» so I'll just tell you what I wrote
instead of switching it over. 826-39

1112
01:27:53,199 --> 01:28:00,560
was the application. John and Irene
truck conditional use permit with the

1113
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:05,719
condition of one year
>> of living in a motor home or whatever

1114
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,719
» while constructing.

1115
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:12,480
» Yep. Okay.
>> I'd make that motion. Okay. We have a

1116
01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:17,199
motion. Is there a second?
I second it.

1117
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:19,600
» Second. Any more discussion? All those
in favor say I.

1118
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:23,719
» I.
>> I. Motion carried.

1119
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:32,719
» Um the other thing that we've been
discussing too from the last over the

1120
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:39,679
last few months are the data centers and
the discussion at the meeting was to

1121
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:44,000
propose a one-year moratorum for data
centers. I don't see us, you know,

1122
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:50,480
getting any requests for a data center
within a year's time, but this gives us

1123
01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:56,000
a buffer to um get the ordinances in
place. Um there is a major transmission

1124
01:28:52,800 --> 01:29:00,276
line that's going to be constructed real
soon south of us in Slope County through

1125
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:03,440
like Hettinger County
>> [clears throat]

1126
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:10,080
» um slope county goal county and on west
that's like a 500 and some odd

1127
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:14,159
um kilovolt transmission line and
usually whenever you have the large

1128
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:20,960
transmission line
maybe in the hunt for a data center but

1129
01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:24,511
right now I don't see that happening. I
mean it's but you never know what the

1130
01:29:22,719 --> 01:29:28,480
future is unfolded. So Jared said he
[clears throat] would he would work on a

1131
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:35,239
resolution for a one year moratory but
it's it's a fairly common practice

1132
01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:35,239
whenever you have like something

1133
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:43,920
as big as you want to do it right the
first time around but right now we don't

1134
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:50,400
have any requests so we do have the time
there's other counties like

1135
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:53,920
Mercer and Orton area and where the The
transmission lines are heavy and the

1136
01:29:52,239 --> 01:29:59,360
power generation is heavy. They're
getting the requests right now.

1137
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:07,480
So, I don't think we'll get them, but
we'll at least have time to work on it.

1138
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:07,480
That'll be coming up to you guys.

1139
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:14,960
» So, the zoning board made a motion,
right?

1140
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:20,080
» Well, we just did a second
motion because we're not

1141
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:24,400
» come from here, right? Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, we wouldn't. Yeah, we don't put

1142
01:30:21,679 --> 01:30:29,760
the motion on at the board or just kind
of like a recommendation

1143
01:30:26,719 --> 01:30:32,719
to do this at the county level.
>> Jared, did you want to address that a

1144
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:39,040
little? [clears throat]
>> Yeah, I need to communicate with other

1145
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:45,600
uh states attorneys around the state.
Namely, I was directed to Lad Ericson um

1146
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:49,600
who's done quite a bit of work on data
centers and moratoriums. I I don't think

1147
01:30:47,440 --> 01:30:54,639
it's a pressing issue to get a moratorum
in place today. Um I don't have the

1148
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:58,719
language ready and and without any
permits being applied for and any intent

1149
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:05,040
to develop.
As long as you know it was well uh the

1150
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:09,760
timing was good by Stacy to bring it to
the planning and zoning commission. Now

1151
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:14,239
the county commissioner is aware uh we
can start to draft that language for in

1152
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:19,040
the event that
some development looks to come into the

1153
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:25,520
county. But uh
I a one-year moratorum

1154
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:29,920
sounds like a lot of of a lengthy period
of time but again there's there's a lot

1155
01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:36,880
that goes into it. the information
regarding data centers and ordinances,

1156
01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:41,360
you know, regarding them is pretty much
new to the other parts of the state that

1157
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:46,480
are actually facing development. So, we
still have some time, but we'll work on

1158
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:50,880
that and and get that in place for an
appropriate amount of time until proper

1159
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:56,960
ordinances are in place.
you know, be better to have it in place

1160
01:31:54,239 --> 01:32:01,199
before we get somebody knock on the door
because then it would look like we're

1161
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:04,960
trying to stop that project where it's
like we don't have any [clears throat]

1162
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:10,239
specific projects. So that a good thing
for us right now, but if you have a

1163
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:14,000
project like applied digital comes and
says, "Hey, we want to put a data

1164
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:17,440
center."
So we don't have any companies. So right

1165
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:21,400
now it's like within the next few months
is the time to do that.

1166
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:30,400
Okay. So, any more discussion on that or
nobody wants to do nothing yet, right?

1167
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:36,639
Till we get more information from Jared
also and you. So, we'll we'll be at

1168
01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:43,199
we'll keep this in the zoning deal. So
that's all I have for them. We didn't

1169
01:32:38,639 --> 01:32:48,719
have any ARW applications and um
>> for the project um for the aerial

1170
01:32:46,639 --> 01:32:54,719
photography [clears throat] project that
it's all in place and um

1171
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:59,400
they'll come out in like mid October or
early October and do a flight after

1172
01:32:59,440 --> 01:33:04,520
that's progressing.
>> Okay.

1173
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:26,040
Okay. Thank you, Stacey.
>> Um 10:30. Uh Misty,

1174
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:26,040
you're on the next.

1175
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:32,639
» Good morning, commissioners. And um Rob
Schilling, Deputy Ranger, is here with

1176
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:36,239
me as well today. Um, just wanted to
give you kind of some regular updates.

1177
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:41,840
We haven't been here in a few months, so
fair amount has happened in the last few

1178
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:45,679
months and always things going on. Um,
just wanted to start a little bit by

1179
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:49,760
mentioning the North Plains Connector
Transmission line project. That's the

1180
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:56,239
project Stacy was referring to. That is
the transmission line that is um south

1181
01:33:53,280 --> 01:34:02,159
of Billings County. So it does cross
portions of Slope County and Golden

1182
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:07,920
Valley counties and portions of Forest
Service lands in Slope County. So um

1183
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:14,080
that project is moving forward. The
notice of availability for the final EIS

1184
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:22,080
was um posted to the Federal Register
last week, August 28th. And so um we are

1185
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:26,639
um nearing the end of that process. The
North Dakota Public Service Commission

1186
01:34:24,159 --> 01:34:31,280
had hearings yesterday and today for
that project as well. And so that's been

1187
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:36,960
an opportunity for folks to come in and
express concerns. They will be um they

1188
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:43,440
would need to provide uh approval for
that project to proceed forward. Project

1189
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:48,560
starts over um near center. There's
actually two pieces of it um that tie

1190
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:55,679
into um substations on that side and
then it goes into um basically to coal

1191
01:34:52,480 --> 01:35:00,080
Montana. So ties into um power lines
there. The intent of that project as

1192
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:05,360
it's been described to us is to connect
the the east and west grids. Um as you

1193
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:09,600
know in in years past there have been
issues um with if [clears throat] one

1194
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:14,800
part of the grid fails there's not a way
to back feed across. So that's the

1195
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:20,880
intent of the project is to connect the
two. Um we've not heard any specific

1196
01:35:18,639 --> 01:35:26,400
things in relation to data centers for
that project, but as Stacy mentioned,

1197
01:35:23,679 --> 01:35:33,520
obviously if a power lines present, that
could facilitate other activities. Um it

1198
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:39,280
would not it we would likely have our
decision um by the end of October of

1199
01:35:36,639 --> 01:35:44,719
this year. And what they indicated is
that we would be finishing permitting

1200
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:50,320
into 2027 and likely construction would
not start until 2028

1201
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:54,560
if the project's approved. So no direct
effect to Billings County, but certainly

1202
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:59,840
a neighbor for sure
>> and not too far away. Um wanted to

1203
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:03,760
briefly mention the Buffalo Gap Road.
things are moving forward and my

1204
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:09,040
apologies for the uh miscommunication
and confusion we had on the the

1205
01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:14,159
alignment and getting the surveys going.
Um, I think we had assumed that um,

1206
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:19,199
things were moving forward and and um,
Rose was waiting for us to provide

1207
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:22,639
approval and and so I I apologize for
that miscommunication, but I think

1208
01:36:20,719 --> 01:36:28,239
things are moving forward and so as soon
as we get the archaeological and

1209
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:32,639
hydraological surveys back from them, we
have completed the wildlife surveys and

1210
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:37,360
the botney surveys and so we would be
ready to to issue a decision as soon as

1211
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:40,960
we get that information and the final,
you know, engineered alignment. from

1212
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:44,880
them. So, I think things are moving
forward for us to to get that decision

1213
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:50,880
yet this fall, assuming we get all the
reports in.

1214
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:54,639
Um, wanted to briefly mention the Arts
Across the Prairie project. Again, this

1215
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:59,199
is not a direct impact to Billings
County, but it's just over the line in

1216
01:36:56,639 --> 01:37:05,440
Golden Valley County. And so just as a
reminder, this is the proposed art

1217
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:12,400
installment that will be um between the
railroad and old highway 10 um just into

1218
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:18,880
Golden Valley County. So um just west of
Madora here. Um that project is moving

1219
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:24,560
forward. Um the county is working with
the um North Dakota Arts Council on

1220
01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:29,199
preparing the um approaches and getting
the parking lot ready. I don't think the

1221
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:31,920
art will be installed maybe till next
season, but um that one is moving

1222
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:37,199
forward.
>> What is the art again? Sorry.

1223
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:43,199
» It is it is a kind of a rocklike
depiction of a bison is basic. And then

1224
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:47,199
they the they did have um what they call
tile workshops where members of the

1225
01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:54,800
community can come and create a tile
that will go on on the sculpture itself.

1226
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:58,080
So, it'll be a large I don't know it's
12 to 14 feet high.

1227
01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:01,520
» 16 or 18.
>> Yeah.

1228
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:06,800
» Yeah. It's it's going to be tall. Um and
it's basically three pieces

1229
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:12,320
um [clears throat] of sculpture and then
there will be a parking area um where

1230
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:15,679
people can pull in. So, not not big like
Enchanted Highway, but pretty good

1231
01:38:14,480 --> 01:38:21,040
sized.
>> And it's rock instead of metal. Um,

1232
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:26,560
well, yeah, it'll be rock or like a
metal with some concrete cover.

1233
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:30,719
» Yeah,
>> if you guys are curious about it, I have

1234
01:38:28,159 --> 01:38:35,040
pictures of it. I mean, it looks like a
really funky fun and then there's

1235
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:41,978
another piece and then there's a
platform that people kind of stand on.

1236
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,978
» Yeah. [snorts]

1237
01:38:44,719 --> 01:38:53,600
Um we we are seeing some oil and gas
leasing occurring. So you may be aware

1238
01:38:51,119 --> 01:38:57,760
um we receive expressions of interest
for leases or federal leases that have

1239
01:38:55,840 --> 01:39:04,560
that are associated with forest service
surface. Um we have been responding to

1240
01:39:01,119 --> 01:39:10,000
those and we had a few so in the last
sale that were in Billings County and a

1241
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:14,000
few that are in the upcoming sale that
are in Billings County as well. and we

1242
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:20,000
are seeing those leases sold. So, just
an awareness for you. Those are mostly

1243
01:39:17,119 --> 01:39:26,719
in the north tier of of Billings County
and into Mackenzie County. So, kind of

1244
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:30,480
that that north township or so, but just
an awareness for you all that there does

1245
01:39:28,639 --> 01:39:36,239
appear to be some potential interest
there and and we are seeing those those

1246
01:39:33,199 --> 01:39:40,800
leases sold at pretty good prices. And
um so whether that means we'll have

1247
01:39:38,719 --> 01:39:45,199
development or not is always a question.
Sometimes leases are purchased as

1248
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:49,280
specula speculative and they're not
developed. Sometimes they're developed.

1249
01:39:47,199 --> 01:39:52,960
But I just wanted to make you aware that
you know this is probably the last two

1250
01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:57,679
quarters are the first times we've been
seeing active sales in Billings County.

1251
01:39:55,119 --> 01:40:03,199
So
>> yeah, that's it. That's like the rough

1252
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:06,320
draft.
>> Yeah, that's pretty Yeah, that's pretty

1253
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:11,600
cool. So, it's kind of concrete, but
it's mostly metal panels that are um

1254
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,639
rusted.
>> Yeah.

1255
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:16,639
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1256
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:21,539
» But the tile tile work, so it's like
Yeah. They'll be all posted on

1257
01:40:19,519 --> 01:40:21,539
[laughter]

1258
01:40:25,119 --> 01:40:32,159
our sacross aquarium. If you guys don't
know, it's like each region. There's

1259
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:37,679
eight regions in the state and so each
region has like a large scale art

1260
01:40:35,440 --> 01:40:42,600
installation and so our area was
selected.

1261
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,600
So

1262
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:48,400
» okay
>> so um so yeah just on the leases again

1263
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:53,040
just wanting to make you aware that we
are seeing some potential interest in

1264
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:59,199
Billings County. Nothing specific as far
as development at this point, but but

1265
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:03,840
like I say, it's this has most recently
been, you know, active leases being

1266
01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:09,719
sold, which
at least indicates interest.

1267
01:41:06,719 --> 01:41:09,719
Um,

1268
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:16,800
I wanted to give an update on travel man
our travel management plan. So, we did

1269
01:41:14,639 --> 01:41:24,239
finalize the maps for the proposed
action actually yesterday. day before

1270
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:28,080
yesterday, Tuesday. And so, um, we we
have a proposed action that will be

1271
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:35,199
ready to take to the public here very
soon. Our plan is to, um, issue a draft

1272
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:40,560
environmental assessment, EA, and the
proposed action maps for the public to

1273
01:41:37,440 --> 01:41:44,159
provide comment on. Um, that will be an
official public comment period. We're

1274
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:50,719
we're planning for the end of September
to have that release out there. Um, I

1275
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:55,360
will uh provide a copy of the maps to
you and to the grazing association so

1276
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:58,880
you can see those. Um, the county and
and any member of the public and the

1277
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:03,920
grazing associations will have
opportunities to provide comments,

1278
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:07,760
additional comments on things that that
you have concerns about or have interest

1279
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:12,960
in or whatever during that comment
period and really up until the time that

1280
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:18,239
we issue our decision. Right now we are
looking to potentially have a final

1281
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:24,080
decision as early as January. Could be
um later into March depending on if we

1282
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:29,119
have um a number of comments and if we
have folks that would file an objection

1283
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:33,119
under our objection process. But um I
think we're very near to the end which

1284
01:42:31,119 --> 01:42:37,760
we are excited about and I hope you guys
are excited about too cuz we've put a

1285
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:43,040
lot of effort into it and and we
appreciate all the effort that that you

1286
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:47,920
all and and the staff have put into
providing us input and helping us work

1287
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:52,159
through the processes and talking about
section lines and all of those things.

1288
01:42:50,480 --> 01:42:57,280
So, I think we're going to have a pretty
good product that we can put out there

1289
01:42:53,840 --> 01:43:03,040
for the public to take a look at here in
the next couple weeks.

1290
01:42:59,679 --> 01:43:09,520
Um, and then also kind of connected to
that, but not is um you may have seen

1291
01:43:05,679 --> 01:43:14,800
the notice of intent for the Forest
Service to change the travel management

1292
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:19,920
rule. And I want to be very clear that
that's a very separate process from what

1293
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:25,679
we're doing. That is a national rule and
that is a national process that they

1294
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:34,000
announced last week. Um
that process will is um modifying how we

1295
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:38,960
would make travel management plans.
Our current travel management plan that

1296
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:44,880
we're working on is um under the current
rule. We anticipate our plan will be

1297
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:52,560
completed prior to the release of the
proposal the proposed changed rule.

1298
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:56,560
Um from what we know now we believe our
plan will be in compliance with the new

1299
01:43:54,400 --> 01:44:01,360
rule and and my understanding is the new
rule they are specifically writing in

1300
01:43:59,199 --> 01:44:06,639
some things acknowledging section lines
and some other things that that I think

1301
01:44:03,679 --> 01:44:11,280
we've already taken into account in our
process. So, um there is a comment

1302
01:44:09,199 --> 01:44:14,960
period open for that right now for the
notice of intent for that rule. You're

1303
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:22,239
welcome to make comments on that as
well. Um but it shouldn't really affect

1304
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:27,600
our our plan. We've gotten approval to
continue with our plan um while they

1305
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:31,280
begin the process for that change in the
rule. So, and we don't we

1306
01:44:30,387 --> 01:44:35,040
[clears throat] don't anticipate that
we'll have to start over or do a bunch

1307
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:41,280
of changes based on that that rule
change. So, um,

1308
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:46,080
and then the last thing I had on my list
was fire restrictions. Um, I think

1309
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:51,600
you're aware we do have what we call
stage one fire restrictions in place.

1310
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:57,280
That does prevent um, campfires in
dispersed areas. Um, it it does

1311
01:44:54,400 --> 01:45:03,119
currently allow campfires in developed
campgrounds. Um, we have been talking

1312
01:45:00,719 --> 01:45:07,760
about and and reviewing in the last
couple of days about potentially

1313
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:13,040
changing that to include restrictions on
campfires period, you know, in including

1314
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:18,960
in campgrounds. We and I would expect
we'll make a decision on that in the

1315
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:22,880
next day or so. Um, and then as always,
we're monitoring conditions and we

1316
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:27,040
recognize that while some places are
getting some spots of rain, that doesn't

1317
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:31,040
seem to be widespread and it's not
getting everywhere. So, we recognize

1318
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:36,719
there are places across all of the
counties where it still continues to be

1319
01:45:33,199 --> 01:45:40,880
very dry and where fires are a concern.
So, as as things progress, if we

1320
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:46,840
continue to stay this dry, then we may
look to do something additional yet this

1321
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:46,840
fall as well.

1322
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:54,000
» Okay. [clears throat]
>> Any questions?

1323
01:45:50,719 --> 01:46:00,080
» Yeah, Mr. Chairman, um,
could I ask Misty a question? If we had

1324
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:04,320
Senator Hovind asked me to attend a
meeting about two weeks ago, we had a

1325
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:08,960
meeting in Dickinson with Senator
Hovind, the grazing associations,

1326
01:46:07,983 --> 01:46:16,080
[clears throat] and the chief of the
forest office. And the

1327
01:46:14,159 --> 01:46:23,239
what I what I think the commission
should understand

1328
01:46:18,639 --> 01:46:23,239
is that um

1329
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:32,159
the let's see if I can find it
the rule

1330
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:38,113
proposed rule I messed you correctly if
my memory is wrong basically presumes

1331
01:46:36,148 --> 01:46:45,040
[clears throat] in the last sentence
[snorts] that all roads roads are going

1332
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:51,840
to the presumption is that they will be
open and there is a specific reference

1333
01:46:48,594 --> 01:46:56,000
[snorts] to the roads in uh Billings
County or not Billings County

1334
01:46:54,639 --> 01:47:01,360
» North Dakota I think
>> western North Dakota is what it's

1335
01:46:58,719 --> 01:47:09,040
» so uh it was a very productive meeting
and I think that uh there is going to be

1336
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:13,920
some requirement really that that the
commission get involved I think is as

1337
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:17,840
that proposed rule gets going. But I
thought it was one of the more

1338
01:47:15,199 --> 01:47:24,480
productive meetings that we've ever had
on the travel plan. The roadless rule

1339
01:47:20,239 --> 01:47:28,800
has been resended. So, and and what
you're saying, Misty, is your last

1340
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:32,080
submission
is under the existing travel plan.

1341
01:47:31,824 --> 01:47:33,440
[clears throat]
>> Yes.

1342
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:36,560
» But you think it's going to be
consistent with the proposed rule?

1343
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,159
» We do.
>> That I just referenced.

1344
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:41,920
» Yes.
>> Okay.

1345
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:46,560
Just for information for the commission.
>> Good. Yeah, I'm glad that you attend the

1346
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:50,239
grazing. Everybody attended. Yeah,
that's good. So,

1347
01:47:48,239 --> 01:47:54,960
» got one question for sure.
>> Is there any truth or can you comment on

1348
01:47:52,320 --> 01:48:00,159
the uh idea of a developed truck parking
lot with DOT by Fryberg?

1349
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:08,960
» So, at this point, we don't have a
formal proposal. Um DOT did reach out to

1350
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:14,880
us um to look at
an option for that. Um,

1351
01:48:12,639 --> 01:48:21,280
in the and I I'm trying to think about
the timing of this. So, in the last

1352
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:24,960
month, um, they have kind of we were we
were preparing to set up a meeting with

1353
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:29,679
them and the grazing association to
start having discussions around that.

1354
01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:32,719
They asked us to hold off on creating a
meeting because they're considering

1355
01:48:31,119 --> 01:48:39,280
other options and I don't know what
those are. So, we do not have a formal

1356
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:44,320
proposal and we um we have not been
doing any work on that until and if they

1357
01:48:42,639 --> 01:48:49,280
come back to us with something. Okay.
>> But they did they did reach out to us to

1358
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:54,400
talk about what the process might look
at like and

1359
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:58,480
see what the possibilities were. But we
but it sounded to me like they were

1360
01:48:56,080 --> 01:49:02,400
looking at other options which I would
be perfectly happy with.

1361
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:06,080
» Okay. an answer
>> and that was the application or not the

1362
01:49:04,639 --> 01:49:12,560
application but that letter that we
received a couple meetings ago

1363
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:15,440
» the potential idea
>> okay so well we'll just wait to hear

1364
01:49:14,639 --> 01:49:19,520
more yeah
>> when you when you hear more

1365
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:23,600
» yep as we get a proposal in then you
know we'll be reaching out and and

1366
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:28,480
working with you all and the grazing
association on on what that request or

1367
01:49:26,719 --> 01:49:33,280
proposal is but sure
>> at this point they asked us to to put

1368
01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:35,360
any kind of meeting or moving it forward
on hold until they explore other

1369
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:39,280
options.
>> Good. Okay. Okay.

1370
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:42,960
Lori,
>> may I ask a follow-up question to Missy?

1371
01:49:41,440 --> 01:49:47,440
So,
um, a little clarification, please, on

1372
01:49:45,119 --> 01:49:52,480
Forest Service named roads that are on
the travel management plan that may even

1373
01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:56,800
be an administrative use that sometimes
are on private property and sometimes

1374
01:49:54,320 --> 01:50:01,280
are public property. What is that
meaning with the new language about

1375
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:07,360
forest service roads will be open to the
public? So I to be honest for the new

1376
01:50:05,119 --> 01:50:12,960
rule I don't know exactly what that
means except our travel rule only

1377
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:17,840
applies to forest service administered
roads. We only have jurisdiction to to

1378
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:22,639
have roads be open that are forest
service roads or roads that we've

1379
01:50:19,679 --> 01:50:27,280
acquired easements for. So, if it's a
road that we put a number on at some

1380
01:50:25,199 --> 01:50:32,639
point that starts on Forest Service and
crosses private and ends on Forest

1381
01:50:29,199 --> 01:50:38,639
Service, that middle section would not
be included in the rule and would not be

1382
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:41,639
applicable to the rule.
>> Okay.

1383
01:50:42,159 --> 01:50:46,639
» Okay. Any other questions?
You're [clears throat] you're getting

1384
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:49,840
question today.
>> That's all right. I'd rather people ask

1385
01:50:48,639 --> 01:50:52,560
questions than
>> Well, thank [clears throat] you for your

1386
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:54,239
information then. Thank you for coming.
Thank you, Rob, too.

1387
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:58,320
» Thank you, guys.
>> All right, I think we'll take a break.

1388
01:50:56,841 --> 01:51:01,320
[clears throat] We're overdue on the
break.

1389
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:24,480
» Call the meeting back to order.
And uh I think we'll go into more uh

1390
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:28,880
department head reports. And uh
so Katie, do you want to go first? I I

1391
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:33,760
made a list now. So
>> Okay. Good morning. How are you guys?

1392
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:37,280
» So the weed board, a lot of our staff
went back to school. So it's just Jod

1393
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:40,960
and I. And then we have one seasonal
that's working a couple days a week when

1394
01:51:39,119 --> 01:51:45,119
they don't have class. So we're still
out spring. We're still behind from the

1395
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:48,800
high temperatures we had in July and
August. But fall's a really good time to

1396
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:52,320
spray the end of thistle and absent
wood. So if anyone's listening to the

1397
01:51:50,639 --> 01:51:55,840
minutes and still needs help spraying or
chemical, please get a hold of us

1398
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:59,199
because we would love to help you. And
so we're going to keep working on county

1399
01:51:57,360 --> 01:52:05,920
roads, spring for private land owners,
and then this service. Nothing too crazy

1400
01:52:01,599 --> 01:52:11,199
at the weboard. Any questions for me?
>> I think we're good. Thank you.

1401
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:17,639
» Um,
do you want to go?

1402
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:17,639
Whoever you're gonna go first

1403
01:52:40,159 --> 01:52:44,800
morning
to give you a brief update on our

1404
01:52:43,119 --> 01:52:50,880
projects, our guard rail improvement
projects and the CMC routes 3D they

1405
01:52:48,159 --> 01:52:55,920
completed the work. Um then there were
site three to side 3 to five that were

1406
01:52:53,199 --> 01:52:59,840
seated within just a temporary seated
window. So they [snorts] offered to do

1407
01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:04,639
it at their own cost to see if the grass
grows. So we're just waiting a little

1408
01:53:02,639 --> 01:53:11,119
bit for grass establishment prior to
final inspection on that project.

1409
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:18,239
The crushing jobs at Tim Arbor's pit. So
Fisher, they'll probably finish up next

1410
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:22,960
week provided they keep going and not
break down too much more. They've been

1411
01:53:21,440 --> 01:53:29,920
kind of been off and on breaking down,
but um we did send in progressive

1412
01:53:27,199 --> 01:53:35,920
estimate number one, the pay app. So
that was just an estimate amount.

1413
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:40,880
So once you get that signed, if you want
to give me a copy, um then I can get

1414
01:53:38,480 --> 01:53:45,760
that back to the contractor and then
after the question's completed, we'll do

1415
01:53:42,639 --> 01:53:48,719
a we'll fly the pile for a final.
>> So when you do that, you going to

1416
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:54,960
account for the clay that was all in
there far as the payment to armburst or

1417
01:53:52,239 --> 01:54:00,320
how does that work?
It's I mean we'll measure the pile and

1418
01:53:57,440 --> 01:54:06,000
that's what they'll get paid for for
final quantity because it's part of the

1419
01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:09,840
product I suppose as far as payment to
another landowner for clay and and

1420
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:12,560
tracking. So
>> but does it come from somewhere else

1421
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:14,800
though?
>> The clay.

1422
01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:18,800
» Yeah. If the clay is getting hauled in
from castles aren't Tim shouldn't be

1423
01:54:17,199 --> 01:54:22,880
getting paid for the clay that's hauled.
What I'm want to clarify,

1424
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:28,239
» I guess the last time we did it on the
moss or pit, I believe it was, we

1425
01:54:26,159 --> 01:54:33,119
subtracted the amount of clay.
>> We had some clay left over. We flew that

1426
01:54:30,719 --> 01:54:36,800
pile through the gravel pile
>> and then whatever clay we hauled in, we

1427
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:40,239
subtracted from the
>> Okay. All right. That's a good point.

1428
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:43,920
» Yeah. I guess I was thinking for the
contractor, we get paid their quantity.

1429
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:49,119
» Oh, I get that.
But then if you Yeah. If you're tracking

1430
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:53,119
the clay, we can you can subtract that
from.

1431
01:54:51,989 --> 01:54:55,760
[snorts]
>> So Bobby,

1432
01:54:54,000 --> 01:55:00,719
» was there a lot of clay used?
>> Yeah. No, in the first portion of the

1433
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:05,280
pit, the second portion here, they moved
into a different area and they haven't

1434
01:55:02,239 --> 01:55:09,520
been adding here as much. So it started
to straighten out, but it's a completely

1435
01:55:08,239 --> 01:55:13,400
different area of the pit. We didn't
know we needed to do it up.

1436
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:21,599
that move down to the Bobby Kis pit. So
Fisher Sand Gravel, they're doing that

1437
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:26,159
one as well and they've just planned to
move on over there once they're done

1438
01:55:23,199 --> 01:55:30,560
crushing it. Tim Arbor's pit, the
Thompson pit, we bid that project last

1439
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:35,360
month with wire construction being a
little bit bid at 28,000.

1440
01:55:32,639 --> 01:55:39,520
So, the notice award, um, I sent it to
you guys. You guys signed it and then I

1441
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:43,679
sent that back to the contractor along
with the contracts to start preparing.

1442
01:55:41,599 --> 01:55:47,280
So, when I get them back, I'll send them
back your way for signatures.

1443
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:51,360
» Yeah.
>> And I believe he's planning to start

1444
01:55:49,199 --> 01:55:56,159
that this fall. You know, Pat, he's
doing some other crushing for Pat. So,

1445
01:55:53,360 --> 01:56:00,119
kind of whatever whatever order you give
him, I think he would do it.

1446
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:11,679
And as far as the chips project, so that
one deal with Aztec contacted me a week

1447
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:16,560
or two ago and said they wouldn't be
here prior to September when to start.

1448
01:56:14,159 --> 01:56:22,960
Then they anticipated it'd probably be
not till September 15th till they could

1449
01:56:19,199 --> 01:56:26,639
get it completed. So I don't know if
you're familiar with chips seals, but

1450
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:30,480
typically September one is a good good
cut off date or you at least want to

1451
01:56:28,719 --> 01:56:34,639
have them started and ended shortly
after. That way it gives a proper cure

1452
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:39,360
time and it helps prevent stripping and
that kind of thing. So I visited with

1453
01:56:36,239 --> 01:56:44,960
Pat and the DOT um about about this
Aztec requested additional time or have

1454
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:49,679
it suspended for the winter. So, our
preference was to suspend it for the

1455
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:54,320
winter. Um, put together a draft change
order and sent them over to the change

1456
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:58,880
order would read that they could start
September

1457
01:56:55,840 --> 01:57:04,239
starting after May 15th and then after
June 1, LBS would start or if they

1458
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:08,480
started before that, LBS would start
whenever they they start whichever comes

1459
01:57:06,239 --> 01:57:16,080
to. So it's incentive to come and do it
early and then it's no additional cost

1460
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:20,159
versus the unit prices that were paid.
So it's unfortunate it had to carry over

1461
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:26,480
but I guess it does give time for the
trail project to finish up before the

1462
01:57:22,719 --> 01:57:32,360
chip seal out of that grading.
I just kind of want to let you know

1463
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:32,360
that's the status of the chip seal.

1464
01:57:32,639 --> 01:57:39,199
Is there any fine or d you know or what
do you call it since it wasn't completed

1465
01:57:36,639 --> 01:57:42,639
was that they should that they're
counterating.

1466
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:48,639
» So there's a you end up charging a
penalty with good damages.

1467
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:52,719
» Um so after this fall you won't charge
any because they they're outside of the

1468
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:57,280
window of being able to complete it if
it you know with the weather the time of

1469
01:57:54,800 --> 01:58:01,520
the year they're not allowed to so it's
hard to charge LEDs when they're not

1470
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:03,920
allowed to do the work. That's kind of
standard practice.

1471
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:07,440
» But the fact they could have came
earlier, that's what I'm saying.

1472
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:12,000
» Part of part of the reason they didn't
come also was the 4th of July. Okay.

1473
01:58:09,679 --> 01:58:15,040
» Around here, they had it scheduled in,
but in the notes we said this is a bad

1474
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:18,800
week to show up.
>> Yeah.

1475
01:58:15,599 --> 01:58:22,080
» It threw a scheduling conflict in.
>> That's why they didn't make it.

1476
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:27,360
» They did reach out shortly before the
4th and said, "Hey, it could get there

1477
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:30,800
like next week, but never never planned
ahead to schedule prejob or anything."

1478
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:34,692
and it was cutting it pretty close.
>> Okay.

1479
01:58:32,159 --> 01:58:39,360
» So, they will be charged LDS once
[clears throat] they start to till they

1480
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:46,159
complete the chip field. If it's between
May 15th or May 16th and June 1 after

1481
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:50,159
June 1, they would get charged every day
until they complete the chip.

1482
01:58:48,239 --> 01:58:53,040
» You see say LDS. What does that mean?
>> Oh, liquidated damages. It's a penalty,

1483
01:58:52,239 --> 01:58:54,960
I think.
>> Okay. You just I didn't know your

1484
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:59,199
acronym.
>> Yep. Sorry. It is a penalty. So they

1485
01:58:56,960 --> 01:59:03,040
will be charged some [clears throat]
it's just a matter of whenever they come

1486
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:07,840
to complete it the total amount there
there is time in the contract that was

1487
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:12,682
provided after the chip seal's completed
there's some time because there's cure

1488
01:59:09,679 --> 01:59:14,480
period before the striping so there's
[cough]

1489
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:19,280
they'll [clears throat] stop once the
chip seal's completed the LDS and if

1490
01:59:16,719 --> 01:59:24,320
they complete the striping the fog seal
the striping in a lot of time there

1491
01:59:21,599 --> 01:59:28,040
won't be additional LDS is how that'll
work Okay,

1492
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:34,639
» the 15th Street grading improvement
project. So, that update hasn't changed

1493
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:39,280
a lot. We submitted that environmental
document to the Forest Service and we're

1494
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:44,320
still waiting on them for final approval
on that.

1495
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:50,800
Our payment justification study. So, we
finalized the traffic data maps and then

1496
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:56,000
I I set up a meeting with Pat next week
just to go over the results and finalize

1497
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:59,480
the routes that we want to look into for
further consideration.

1498
01:59:59,679 --> 02:00:10,000
Um, then we got a couple of wish list
bridges. Also, the NDAC conference in

1499
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:15,520
October that meeting with the federal a
meeting with the DOT we could register

1500
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:18,880
yesterday. um them fill up really fast.
You know, as soon as you get the email,

1501
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:22,880
you're trying to call in and you're
already on hold. [clears throat] But we

1502
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:27,840
did get it scheduled for Tuesday at
10:15

1503
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:31,440
central time with the at the event
center there.

1504
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:34,560
» So, say those dates, say that date
again.

1505
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:39,840
» Okay. So, the conference is the 11th
through the 13th of October. The meeting

1506
02:00:36,719 --> 02:00:44,800
would be October 13th at 10:15 Central
time. I did email out uh [clears throat]

1507
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:48,000
an invite yesterday. I don't know if you
got it or not, but a calendar invite

1508
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:51,639
just to help
>> help remind you.

1509
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:59,679
» And then um
I guess one last thing I had was

1510
02:00:57,599 --> 02:01:04,960
Commissioner Rodney, you had you had
called and asked about looking at near

1511
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:10,159
Sully Creek and East River Road, that
intersection about the weed for guard

1512
02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:14,040
rail. So, I visited with Pat and I just
took a couple pictures.

1513
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:26,560
So, the the first one, this is at the
southeast side of the intersection. It

1514
02:01:24,480 --> 02:01:32,000
kind of drops off there. Um, and then
the second picture below kind of shows

1515
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:36,320
like the the vehicles are just taking
the corner really sharply. And then if I

1516
02:01:34,320 --> 02:01:41,199
suppose that they'd encroach upon that
drop off, maybe that was the area of

1517
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:47,119
concern. So recently the county put some
additional gravel on there and then

1518
02:01:43,679 --> 02:01:50,360
object markers to help delineate I guess
that intersection.

1519
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:56,560
So then when you're looking at if
guardrails warranted, you one thing to

1520
02:01:55,040 --> 02:02:03,280
look at is the clear zone distance. So
the clear zone is basically a safer coal

1521
02:01:59,199 --> 02:02:06,800
area that you can drive outside the the
driving lane, you know, if something

1522
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:11,599
happens. [clears throat]
So that varies depending on your speed

1523
02:02:09,199 --> 02:02:17,920
of your traffic, the amount of vehicles.
So the last page I put a table of clear

1524
02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:25,360
zone distances for reference
and then we fall under that that first

1525
02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:31,280
line. So basically for any slope than 4
to one, you need a 7 to 10 ft clear. So

1526
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:37,920
going around um
I guess this would be the second page.

1527
02:02:34,719 --> 02:02:43,280
The top photo kind of shows maybe the
worst spot going around that radius. The

1528
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:48,560
the distance there from the edge of the
road was about 12 ft max or 12 ft and

1529
02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:52,880
then it got wider after that. And then
going around the radius itself, you

1530
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:59,040
probably 20 feet or better. And they're
all most of them is around 10 to one or

1531
02:02:56,239 --> 02:03:06,080
flatter. It did get to about 5 to one.
Then you keep going to the west. So it

1532
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:10,960
it meets the criteria for you got enough
clear zone distance there. So I would I

1533
02:03:09,119 --> 02:03:15,679
guess my opinion from just taking a
little field visit it's not necessarily

1534
02:03:13,599 --> 02:03:19,679
warranted there based on the the
conditions now [clears throat] that you

1535
02:03:17,199 --> 02:03:26,080
know the speed the traffic and the
amount of clear zone distance you have

1536
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:29,199
but you got any questions on that or
hopefully I explained it a little

1537
02:03:28,159 --> 02:03:33,840
insight
>> No that's good thank you I I talked to

1538
02:03:31,599 --> 02:03:36,239
Pat about it already earlier and we just
wanted to get so that we

1539
02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:42,679
» Okay,
>> but if you got other spots What's that

1540
02:03:38,159 --> 02:03:42,679
when you look at it? Sure.

1541
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:48,360
» I don't know if you guys got any other
questions.

1542
02:03:49,599 --> 02:03:55,719
» I'm good. You guys good? All right.
>> Thank you. Thank you.

1543
02:03:57,040 --> 02:04:02,400
» All right. I'll try to make this quick
today for you guys. Um just want to give

1544
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:06,480
a couple status updates on a couple of
projects we're working with you guys on.

1545
02:04:04,159 --> 02:04:10,560
Um first one is the construction of the
shared use path on East River Road from

1546
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:15,119
the south end of Madora here all the way
to campground. Um Bronco Brothers has

1547
02:04:13,599 --> 02:04:20,159
completed all the earth work and the
gravel operations on that project. Um

1548
02:04:18,159 --> 02:04:25,440
wind construction will be coming in the
21st of September to be laying the

1549
02:04:23,119 --> 02:04:30,639
concrete for the sidewalk on that
project. Um they do have to do the

1550
02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:34,560
fabrication of the steel bridge that
won't get installed until April. um the

1551
02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:38,639
contract didn't allow for that time in
there, but they do plan on setting the

1552
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:44,000
pedestrian bridge in um April of next
year. So, that's just a quick skinny on

1553
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:51,440
that um project. The other project is
the Buffalo Gap Road extension. Um Missy

1554
02:04:47,599 --> 02:04:55,119
was giving your updates, but there we're
working with KJ on completing the

1555
02:04:53,119 --> 02:05:00,480
environmental studies on that. They have
completed their field work and they will

1556
02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:04,400
have their environmental or the wetland
and their cultural surveys down here in

1557
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:11,040
the next couple weeks and we will submit
that to the forest service. Um from

1558
02:05:08,239 --> 02:05:14,159
there um we'll proceed with survey and
final design. We still have to come

1559
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:20,400
forward with a task order to complete
that work along with that estimated cost

1560
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:25,280
um that each county would be varying for
that project. But that's in the

1561
02:05:22,639 --> 02:05:31,040
forecast. We still are still believe
it's very realistic that this project

1562
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:35,040
gets constructed in 2027.
>> Okay,

1563
02:05:32,800 --> 02:05:41,320
» that's all I really have for those two
updates on those projects. Billy wanted

1564
02:05:37,280 --> 02:05:41,320
to chill up here.

1565
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:52,560
» Uh yeah, good morning. I guess I want to
look at the shared use path project

1566
02:05:50,272 --> 02:05:55,679
[clears throat] with Gail today and want
to just take a minute to stop in here

1567
02:05:53,920 --> 02:06:00,480
and just say we appreciate working with
Billings County. Um we are doing a lot

1568
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:05,119
of work in the city of Madora right now.
Our municipal team is um so we we really

1569
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:09,440
are invested in this community. We want
to be part of Billings County in the

1570
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:13,840
future. Uh did want to extend an
invitation to you guys to go to supper

1571
02:06:11,679 --> 02:06:18,320
during the Association of Counties on a
Monday night. Gail will send you guys an

1572
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:24,000
email with some more information on
that, but um we would like to extend an

1573
02:06:21,119 --> 02:06:28,000
offer to you guys for um suffer on
Monday night during the association

1574
02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:33,760
counties. But otherwise um just wanted
to say, you know, we are

1575
02:06:31,360 --> 02:06:38,079
um again, you know, appreciative of the
opportunities to work up here and if

1576
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:41,599
there's anything else we can do, we'd
we'd be happy to help. And then two,

1577
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:45,599
just if you guys have any questions on
any of the projects that we're currently

1578
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:50,639
working on, please let Gail or myself
know.

1579
02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:53,760
» Thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you guys.

1580
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:14,560
So the crews have been hauling on East
River Road, Sully Creek, West River

1581
02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:19,760
Road, Franks Creek, cleaning cattle
guards. The milling got done on

1582
02:07:16,639 --> 02:07:23,280
Blacktail and on Bearfield pasture. Then
they've been helping out with fires as

1583
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:27,840
they arise.
Um, District One got their 724

1584
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:31,920
delivered.
I talked to

1585
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:35,920
Butler about the mowers the other day
and they're supposed to show up this

1586
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:41,199
month yet. I haven't heard a date. The
flex hitches are in, but the mowers have

1587
02:07:37,679 --> 02:07:44,079
not showed up yet.
The mouse pit wire finished

1588
02:07:42,933 --> 02:07:50,400
[clears throat] up crushing. He's got
some reclamation to do and then he'll be

1589
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:57,079
done with that. Moving to the next pit,
the overage pit. Canopic finished

1590
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:57,079
crushing. There's like 13,995

1591
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:08,000
yards that got put up there. There's
reclamation needs to be done yet on

1592
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:13,440
that, but that is crushed and measured.
The trucks are up for auction at Pipers

1593
02:08:10,719 --> 02:08:20,560
on the 24th of this month. You can see
the trucks online. They have them there.

1594
02:08:18,079 --> 02:08:26,159
See the 135th the dirt work and
graveling is done. There's fencing that

1595
02:08:23,199 --> 02:08:29,440
is going on yet and then the um
permanent seating needs done yet.

1596
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:32,440
There's temporary seating done but the
permani

1597
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:43,599
bridge is set to start towards the end
of October yet. There's some

1598
02:08:41,119 --> 02:08:48,320
complications with the DOT but they've
all been resolved. was still a goal end

1599
02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:53,679
of October.
And then the letter of intent was set to

1600
02:08:51,599 --> 02:08:58,280
goose neck for the lease tractors for
next year for three of them.

1601
02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:03,000
That's all I have.

1602
02:09:04,159 --> 02:09:12,119
Okay.
Thank you. Anything else? We're good.

1603
02:09:16,159 --> 02:09:22,719
Kyle Shock
in any questions.

1604
02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:27,880
» What does AA R stand for?
>> Abraction review.

1605
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:27,880
» Okay.

1606
02:09:28,079 --> 02:09:34,920
I didn't get that. Is that on the back?
Well, that's on the back. I didn't see

1607
02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:34,920
that.

1608
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:42,320
» Sorry. I'm trying to save paper.
No, I

1609
02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:46,360
» I was just trying to save paper by
printing it.

1610
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:46,360
» Okay.

1611
02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:57,920
» So, the fire band I just wanted to visit
a little bit. [clears throat] So, um the

1612
02:09:55,360 --> 02:10:00,000
uh Golden Valley County took theirs off,
right?

1613
02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:01,040
» Golden Valley County did. Yes,
>> they did.

1614
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:02,400
» They did.
>> Yeah.

1615
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:06,239
» Y
>> and then the Forest Service hasn't

1616
02:10:04,159 --> 02:10:10,880
indicated they're going to take it off
yet. Nope. They're actually indicating

1617
02:10:08,639 --> 02:10:14,159
to go further. Okay.
>> Put on stronger restrictions. We haven't

1618
02:10:12,639 --> 02:10:20,159
had any issues here, but Mackenzie
County has with the fire rings. People

1619
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:24,480
are like putting 10ft logs in there, let
them burn or falling out. So, we haven't

1620
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:29,360
had an issue. I know they have up north.
Um, so yeah, that's what kind of spurred

1621
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:33,440
them going in further. So, we had
received a email from Johansson last

1622
02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:38,079
week, I think, on all that. So,
>> Okay.

1623
02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:43,920
Okay.
So then we're okay. Everything is out.

1624
02:10:40,079 --> 02:10:47,760
That was my only question. I guess
I would comment to that. Part of the

1625
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:51,119
county is greened up. Part of it's not.
>> That is true. That is true.

1626
02:10:49,599 --> 02:10:56,920
» But you get Fryberg, it's green. You get
it by your place. It's

1627
02:10:52,719 --> 02:10:56,920
» orange. It doesn't take much.

1628
02:10:57,599 --> 02:11:01,079
» Any other questions?

1629
02:11:02,079 --> 02:11:05,840
» We're good. Thank you.

1630
02:11:07,599 --> 02:11:11,119
Yeah. Go. Are you leaving or you're
going to do some Huh?

1631
02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:15,119
» I'm going to head out.
>> Oh, I thought you going to give another

1632
02:11:12,400 --> 02:11:19,280
report. [laughter]
>> You want me to come up? [cough]

1633
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:25,280
Thanks, guys.
>> Yeah. See, and Juliana, no, she mustn't

1634
02:11:23,119 --> 02:11:29,119
have anything. Marca, do you have
something?

1635
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:34,719
» I just have a couple things. little um
have the monthly balance sheet along

1636
02:11:31,119 --> 02:11:42,239
with the treasur's cash summary report.
Uh there is a meeting that was scheduled

1637
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:48,159
uh for the county caucus um with all of
the southwest region commissioners

1638
02:11:45,679 --> 02:11:53,199
» at the New England Merkantile.
You guys went there before NDA meeting.

1639
02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:59,360
Um [clears throat] this is the Southwest
Association of County. It's not the

1640
02:11:54,800 --> 02:12:05,639
NDAC, but NDO NDAC will be there. Um, so
it's scheduled for September 14th at

1641
02:12:02,239 --> 02:12:05,639
6:00 p.m.

1642
02:12:05,679 --> 02:12:12,159
And they'll have a taco bar, so you'll
have to pay for it there then

1643
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:16,199
» at 6:00 p.m. in New England.
>> In New England at the merkantile.

1644
02:12:22,159 --> 02:12:29,520
So it it it's basically the same [cough]
[clears throat] thing going on that's

1645
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:32,400
but just different group or
>> it it's just all the county

1646
02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:36,239
commissioners. So you're going to caucus
and and come [snorts] up with u

1647
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:41,800
resolutions that you want to cover to
the

1648
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:41,800
» Okay, Scott was kind of

1649
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:51,119
done it before. Okay.
Um the only other thing is is if you

1650
02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:54,800
need hotel rooms for the uh Association
of Counties Convention, let me know. Um

1651
02:12:53,360 --> 02:13:00,800
we do have a block of rooms at the
Everspring again. And if you have not

1652
02:12:58,880 --> 02:13:05,360
registered already, you can register
online or if you want me to register for

1653
02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:13,199
you, just let me know of that, too.
uh we're getting ready to do our uh work

1654
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:18,159
on the general election um training of
election workers and things like that.

1655
02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:24,320
So um one change was made Rhonda King
can't do the November um election work.

1656
02:13:22,239 --> 02:13:27,320
So Jod Johnson is going to sit in for
her.

1657
02:13:28,122 --> 02:13:30,142
[clears throat]

1658
02:13:30,239 --> 02:13:34,760
» That's all I have right now.

1659
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:40,920
Do we have um

1660
02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:48,560
who is uh did did who turned in
petitions for the uh

1661
02:13:46,159 --> 02:13:53,599
» um for
the November election for district 4

1662
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:58,400
seat? Um it's a two-year term. There
were two petitions turned in. Uh one

1663
02:13:56,719 --> 02:14:03,360
with
Kevin Kessle and the other is Kyle

1664
02:14:01,199 --> 02:14:07,199
Shley.
And then

1665
02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:12,079
you know if you want to go through all
the federal and state races I can put

1666
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:14,480
them up on the screen but
>> nothing

1667
02:14:12,719 --> 02:14:20,679
» there is nothing nobody was turned in
for district five so that will be a

1668
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:20,679
complete write in race.

1669
02:14:22,400 --> 02:14:25,400
» Okay

1670
02:14:28,639 --> 02:14:35,560
you're good then. Thank you.
Um

1671
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:41,280
Jerry, do you want to do something?
[clears throat]

1672
02:14:38,320 --> 02:14:47,280
» I guess I don't have anything much in
addition. Um

1673
02:14:44,480 --> 02:14:52,960
quite a few little projects working on
social services

1674
02:14:49,199 --> 02:14:56,639
uh staying keeping me busy with uh some
of their things.

1675
02:14:54,960 --> 02:15:03,760
um
didn't have any major

1676
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:10,358
criminal fallout from the event. Um some
minor traffic things here and there uh

1677
02:15:06,880 --> 02:15:10,358
through July [clears throat]

1678
02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:16,560
work on that moratorum a little bit
further get get in communication dealing

1679
02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:21,679
with everything else I've spoken on
today. Um

1680
02:15:19,440 --> 02:15:26,800
there have been several individuals that
have reached out for guidance uh

1681
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:31,920
district 5 residents who would look to
run a writing campaign. The secretary of

1682
02:15:29,440 --> 02:15:38,960
state directed at least one of them uh
to me to look into incompatibility of

1683
02:15:35,679 --> 02:15:43,199
office type uh analysis.
um those individuals are fully aware

1684
02:15:41,599 --> 02:15:47,280
that it would be a ride- in campaign,
but they need additional information

1685
02:15:45,599 --> 02:15:52,400
that the Secretary of State was unable
to provide um just to determine if that

1686
02:15:50,239 --> 02:16:00,679
was if they're eligible [clears throat]
and appropriate. Um so yeah, just

1687
02:15:55,599 --> 02:16:00,679
keeping keep them busy. Okay.

1688
02:16:02,320 --> 02:16:14,000
» All right. Well, I don't know. Was there
any other uh anyone else I missed or

1689
02:16:09,280 --> 02:16:20,400
I think uh we're good to go to someone
wants to make a motion to adjurnn.

1690
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:27,040
I move to adjourn.
I'll second it. Meeting is adjourned.

1691
02:16:24,079 --> 02:16:27,040
Thank you all for