1 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:26,160 That's a thumbs up. All right, proceeding. Good evening, everyone. We 2 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:32,480 are here for our first of two budget hearings uh to pass the 2627 fiscal 3 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:38,879 budget. So, we'll call to order the first meeting. I see 6:03 p.m. on 4 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:41,200 September 8, 20, 2026. Uh, madame clerk, would you please call the role for us? 5 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:43,600 » Mayor Grove >> here. 6 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,800 » Vice Mayor Gonzalez here. >> Commissioner Ansler, Commissioner 7 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,239 Hunington here. >> Commissioner Sam 8 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,800 » here. >> Mr. Mayor, you have a quum. 9 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,520 » Thank you, Madam Clerk. Let's do the pledge of allegiance, please. 10 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:17,799 All right. With this chair 11 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:17,799 here, 12 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:23,920 your budget for new chairs, Mr. Manager. I'm just kidding. Okay. So, let's uh go 13 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:27,920 ahead and move into our public comment. We will start with public comment folks 14 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:31,680 here in the log cabin and then we'll move on to Zoom. Uh just as a reminder, 15 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:36,840 public comment is uh three minutes per speaker and please provide us with your 16 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,840 name and address. Thank you very much. 17 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:46,000 » I hate being short. Jamie Anderson, 11905 Northeast 11th place. I came 18 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:51,119 tonight fully expecting to have to pitch the 300,000 for the rec center uh 19 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:59,119 playground equipment and then I looked at the budget. I am so glad to see that 20 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:04,079 in there. I mean, as few amenities as we have, you have one that is so well used, 21 00:02:01,759 --> 00:02:07,840 such a focal point for the community to have thought that it would have to be 22 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:11,520 shut down when you had a shovel ready project and you knew where the monies 23 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,840 were from. Yes, it would have been wonderful if we got the allocation. 24 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:21,800 Well, life happens. Anyway, I hope that stays in there and I hope we see that 25 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:21,800 new equipment soon. Thanks. 26 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:28,560 » Thank you. Any others? Going once, going twice, up 27 00:02:26,959 --> 00:02:32,879 to Zoom. Do we have any on Zoom? Any with Madam Clerk? See none. See none. 28 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,760 Okay. All right. Very good. So, we'll go ahead and close public comment at this 29 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:39,640 time. Uh, any commission reply to public comment before we move on? 30 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:45,440 None. Hearing none. Okay. All right. Very good. So, uh, let's go ahead and 31 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:50,000 move into our ordinances as our resolutions are empty for this evening. 32 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:54,720 So, uh, John, just as a point of order, uh, as a reminder for myself, I think I 33 00:02:51,760 --> 00:03:02,480 ask this every year. We the first we will we will do the the we'll open the 34 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:07,280 first ordinance item t did you expect that I was going to ask this question? 35 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:14,080 Yeah. Okay. So then yes one of you >> under applicable Florida law um you must 36 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:20,480 adopt the millage rate first before you can adopt your final budget. However, as 37 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:25,680 part of the mandatory consideration for your millage rate is the budget. You 38 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,879 know, without talking about the budget, how do you decide how you're eventually 39 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:34,879 going to get to your millage rate? Unless, you know, you're you're pretty 40 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:40,080 um as a group, you're pretty much okay with your uh with the budget as it is 41 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:43,680 being proposed that translates into your existing millillage. Yes, the first 42 00:03:42,239 --> 00:03:48,159 order of business is to take up the millillage. Um so what a lot of 43 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:53,680 jurisdictions do and what this uh village has historically done is you 44 00:03:50,560 --> 00:04:02,879 will read into um the record the ordinance for uh the final millillage uh 45 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:09,280 on first reading um t talk about it um table it then read into the record the 46 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:13,760 title of the ordinance uh on first reading adopting the final budget 47 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:18,160 discuss the budget and how it impacts the millage rate. If there's anything 48 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:24,160 that you may end up uh modifying in the budget that would then again affect that 49 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:28,800 millage rate, uh table the ordinance uh uh for the adoption of the final 50 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,919 ordinance, I mean, sorry, the final budget 51 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:36,240 » back to >> and then go back and and uh take up and 52 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:40,720 and uh vote on first reading of the millillage ordinance and then 53 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:46,479 » then go back to Got it. Okay, I I remember. Thank you, John. One 54 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:52,880 additional uh item uh recent adoption of state statute by 55 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:57,759 the Florida legislature because you are proposing a uh increase in your 56 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:02,720 millillage uh above roll back rate there. It would have to be adopted by a 57 00:04:59,919 --> 00:05:04,160 four fifths um uh >> right 58 00:05:03,759 --> 00:05:08,880 » oops >> right 59 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:15,360 » you don't need a a 40 because you're not going above the 110% staying below it. 60 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:18,800 So you need that purpose vote adopt both uh items. 61 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,680 » Understood. All right, John. Thank you very much. So in that case, John, would 62 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,960 you please read the or the first ordinance uh on the record for us? 63 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:29,199 » Yes, sir. The first ordinance is ordinance number 2026-05 64 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:32,400 entitled an ordinance to the village commission of the village of Biscane 65 00:05:30,479 --> 00:05:38,080 Park, Florida, establishing and adopting a final final millage rate and levy of 66 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:43,600 advorum taxes for fiscal year 2026 2027 in the amount of 9.2 two mills for each 67 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:47,120 $1,000 of assessed valuation upon real and personal property within the village 68 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:53,360 limits of the village of Biscane Park which is 5.97% 69 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:57,039 higher than the roll back rate of 8.6820 mills providing for an effective date. 70 00:05:55,759 --> 00:06:00,720 » Okay, thanks John. Do I have a motion and a second to move the ordinance into 71 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:06,560 discussion? Yeah, I I make a motion to approve the orders 20265 72 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:11,120 adopted final merit rate 2026 27 first reading. 73 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:16,160 » Can I make an um I'm sorry an intervening motion to table it so we can 74 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:20,039 move into discussion for the budget first. 75 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,039 » Well, so 76 00:06:21,199 --> 00:06:24,160 » is that >> that's what I meant to table it so that 77 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:28,160 we can >> we don't we motion do we have to approve 78 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:31,600 it before we table it? No, you >> Okay. So, we can motion to table it 79 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,600 » discussion and you can take the public comment on the 80 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,360 » Well, that's what I was I was just going to get to the public comment portion of 81 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,479 it. Yeah. >> Okay, cool. Got it. All right. Thank 82 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,360 you. So, we had a motion on the floor for to approve the ordinance or move to 83 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,520 discussion. Is there a second? >> Second. 84 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:48,479 » Okay. Uh is there any public comment on the ordinance before we discuss and or 85 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:54,080 table here or in Zoom? Going once, going 86 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:58,840 twice. Seeing none. Okay. Now, I think now I think you're good. Sure. 87 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:05,440 » Make a motion to table ordinance 202605 adopt by Mr. 88 00:07:05,039 --> 00:07:08,240 » Second. >> Okay. All in favor of tableabling the 89 00:07:07,039 --> 00:07:09,360 ordinance to move on to the second ordinance. 90 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,599 » I >> I Okay, great. All right. So, John, 91 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:18,000 would you please read the second ordinance for us? 92 00:07:15,599 --> 00:07:21,840 The second ordinance uh is ordinance number 2026 93 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,440 on first reading entitled an ordinance the village commission of the village of 94 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:30,240 Miscane Park Florida adopting a budget for fiscal year 2026 2027 for the 95 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,880 village of Main Park Florida providing for conflict scrimmers errors 96 00:07:31,599 --> 00:07:35,599 severability and providing for an effective date. 97 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:38,560 » John thank you. Do I have a motion and a second to approve the ordinance? 98 00:07:37,039 --> 00:07:44,800 » I make a motion to approve ordinance adopting FY 2627 final budget meeting. 99 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:48,880 Second. >> Okay. Is there any public comment on 100 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:53,840 this ordinance either here or on Zoom? Going once, going twice, hearing none. 101 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Okay. So, uh we'll talk about the second ordinance first before we move back in. 102 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:02,800 Um so, uh Mr. Manager, before we move into it, and Paul, I don't know if you 103 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:09,759 have any anything to add on it, but are there any changes? Uh you handed out um 104 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:15,360 uh the summary beforehand. >> Um Mr. Mayor, if I could. Sure. So, um, 105 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:20,080 just to give you a brief introduction and then I'll turn it over to Paul and 106 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:23,599 he'll he'll talk about both ordinances tonight. You're you're going to make two 107 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:29,120 decisions. What our millage rate should be and then the first reading our of our 108 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:33,599 budget. So, uh, we're asking you to set the millage of 9.2. 109 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:40,000 Uh, we have consistently lowered the millillage each year. We're lowering it 110 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:45,760 this year from 9.3 to 9.2. That's our suggestion. Also they um are we're 111 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:49,839 asking we had two budget workshops already. Each department made a 112 00:08:47,839 --> 00:08:55,680 presentation of their budget. During those two uh two days of uh budget 113 00:08:53,680 --> 00:09:02,000 workshops each of the directors came forward uh presented their budgets. Uh 114 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:08,240 you had back back and forth questions. Um and as a result uh if you look at the 115 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:16,480 budget summary I know it's it's very small to look at but on the screen if 116 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:24,560 you look at it so in 20 20 uh 2021 uh the uh the village uh had in in 117 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:31,120 revenues we had an increase from 2020 2022 to 2027 we had an increase in 118 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:34,120 revenues of of approximately 1 million $570,296 119 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:41,519 increase in revenue. And in the expan expenditures, 120 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:49,240 uh actually uh there's a difference in 2022 to 2027 and expenditure is a 121 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:49,240 difference of 1,24,669 122 00:09:50,800 --> 00:10:02,120 uh from 2022 to 2027. So there's a we're we're actually going to have a 123 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:02,120 surplus next year of $59,661 124 00:10:02,399 --> 00:10:12,000 as the uh uh difference. Now Paul's going to talk to you a little bit about 125 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:17,680 our where we are with our reserves now u and our emergency reserves and also on 126 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:23,519 our our um operating reserves and what our recommendations for those two uh 127 00:10:20,959 --> 00:10:29,760 reserves are. But financially, I think you're really in a good shape and for I 128 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:35,760 haven't in and the village I haven't seen this in a in a a long time and I 129 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:42,720 think it's a a testament to this board and what your um your direction has been 130 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:47,360 to to the administration and keeping our our our budget down. So with that, I'll 131 00:10:44,959 --> 00:10:53,120 turn it over to Paul to make a a brief introduction, a brief presentation about 132 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:55,680 both the uh illustrate in our first reading of the budget. 133 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,959 » Thanks, Al. >> You're up, Paul. 134 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:03,920 » Thank you. Yeah, these uh these sheets go a little 135 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:08,320 small uh when you try to put a lot of information and you may remember the uh 136 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:13,120 state changed the law where you have to have uh 5 years comparative budget up 137 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:17,279 there at all times. So, that's one of the reasons why the the budget looks the 138 00:11:14,959 --> 00:11:23,519 way it does is because of the statute uh that they they added. Uh so like the 139 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:27,279 village manager said uh this is again and I I hate to be so positive because 140 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:32,480 nobody believes me but uh this is an exceptional uh beginning of a year end 141 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:37,680 of a year uh type of budget meeting. Uh, all good news. When if you can see on 142 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:42,000 the the chart that's on the screen now, if you go to the projected endofear 143 00:11:40,079 --> 00:11:48,079 balance, I believe it should be right right around 1.3 million, and that's 144 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:54,079 expecting about $230,000 for the next uh two months of bill paying. Uh that 145 00:11:51,600 --> 00:12:00,000 that's a little complicated, but it's a very large uh balance, and it has to do 146 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:04,399 with a lot of funds uh through your CIP, through everything. But the point is 147 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:10,240 that that's really money that you have available to you to transfer into the 148 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:15,440 future. Moving over the 2027 budget that the manager has and his staff have 149 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:20,639 developed for you. Uh it has a built-in $500,000 surplus. 150 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:25,040 Again, those are very positive things. The the basic, you've heard me say this 151 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:30,160 and I say it every time, the service level for the village has not been 152 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:35,360 impacted. yet you're able to produce this budget with with a substantial 153 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:42,959 surplus. And because of that and and dialogues we've with staff, we brought 154 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:47,279 back to you a 9.2 based millage budget, not the 93 that we had worked through 155 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:52,880 because it was very obvious that that was, you know, $40,000 156 00:12:49,839 --> 00:12:58,639 difference. It it just it would we we understood and and the manager directed 157 00:12:54,959 --> 00:13:03,200 us that uh is very likely you would want to lower the the rate. We're prepared to 158 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:08,880 go back to the 93 which is your maximum that you can consider tonight. Uh but 159 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:14,240 the 92 still produces uh excellent uh surplus. With that surplus 160 00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:20,160 uh and no changes to the service level, everything that you've spent during the 161 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:23,680 workshops is is intact. uh our one of our most prominent residents that comes 162 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:28,880 to all of our budget meetings made a comment uh that she was very happy that 163 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:33,920 the playground made it in there. I had no doubts that that was the direction 164 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:38,160 either. So I I don't know if people were other people were worried about it, but 165 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:42,880 the good news is it it is in your CIP. This is a tricky picture to give you, 166 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:46,959 but I so I'm keeping it simple. Just saying, look, you're you're rolling over 167 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:53,279 over a million dollars like we talked about into your reserve components. 168 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:59,120 You're keeping your CIP money uh that wasn't spent, moving that over. You're 169 00:13:55,680 --> 00:14:03,680 you're adding 300,000 to it. I will note that it's a little confusing because we 170 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:07,920 only spent 300,000 and that's no one's fault and we added in 300. So, it's it 171 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:13,199 looks like the same number, but it is not. We did expend uh we expect to 172 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:17,600 expend a total of about 300,000 this fiscal year, and that's not unusual with 173 00:14:15,519 --> 00:14:22,000 a CIP budget. And you can see the roofs going on. You can see the other projects 174 00:14:19,199 --> 00:14:27,920 are moving, but the payments lag quite a bit behind um contractually. So, with 175 00:14:24,959 --> 00:14:33,839 that said, uh I don't have a component of your financial condition uh to 176 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:38,480 complain about or criticize or to beg for. Uh, so I'm going to be very boring 177 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:44,880 in my my presentation. Uh, and that's good news. The the the last piece of the 178 00:14:41,199 --> 00:14:50,240 puzzle for you uh today is to determine how you want to handle the the reserves. 179 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:56,160 Uh, no matter what millage rate you pick, you're going to have a little over 180 00:14:51,680 --> 00:15:02,720 $5 million uh to to allocate at your discretion. Historically, you've been 181 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:07,279 looking at a 7030 splits uh 7525. you've had kind of that range 30% being in an 182 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,560 unassigned reserves meaning money that the manager 183 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:15,120 could come back to you and say hey we need to buy this here's where I want 184 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:20,399 it's not in the budget this is where we're taking it from and that's it's 185 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:25,680 like excuse the term it's a very large contingency basically uh for e not not 186 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:32,000 emergencies but more urgent unexpected expenses emergencies are defined in your 187 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:36,720 emergency reserve uh ordinance I believe It's an ordinance and in that ordinance 188 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:41,040 it identifies the emergencies that would qualify using it. So there's there's 189 00:15:38,399 --> 00:15:46,399 really not a lot of risk in loading up your emergency reserves. The the optics 190 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:50,399 of it are fantastic. Uh should you be in the 191 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:54,000 bonding world one day, these are the financial numbers that you're going to 192 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:57,839 require to get a good bond rating and and to be successful with a low interest 193 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:02,639 rate. That's what a bond rating does for you. It keeps your cost down. So, all 194 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:06,639 that said, uh I think in a in consultation with the manager that 195 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:12,000 there's a really nice number sitting in front of you uh that looks would look 196 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:16,800 fantastic and be very healthy of of putting your emergency reserves at a $5 197 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:22,399 million even and let the b the balance fall uh it's about $540,000 would fall 198 00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:27,839 into your unassigned reserves. Here's why. Your budget is proposed with a 199 00:16:25,199 --> 00:16:33,040 surplus of about 500,000. So that's going to be barring any operational 200 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:36,800 changes that come to light through the year, you're going to have a million 201 00:16:34,399 --> 00:16:40,079 dollars to at your discretion through the manager to to handle. And that's 202 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:44,399 that's kind of what I talked about the last meeting or at the last workshop. 203 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:50,560 That that's a very healthy number for this village. It's it's uh it's 20 Yeah, 204 00:16:47,199 --> 00:16:56,800 it's 20% of your operating budget ready cash. That's excellent. and and the the 205 00:16:53,839 --> 00:17:02,959 optics and the the philosophy, if you will, of having a an emergency reserve 206 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:08,160 of 5 million uh has tangible benefits. Uh all of the money will be all of your 207 00:17:05,679 --> 00:17:12,880 extra cash uh is always in a in the highest interest earning account that we 208 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,679 that we're allowed to use. You have two options now. One that have been 209 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:20,480 authorized. One of them is the state board account which is traditionally 210 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:26,240 what everyone uses be but because of the economy uh in saving or the rates are 211 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:31,280 high enough now that the banks are offering a qualified government savings 212 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:35,360 account which you opened up and have been operating in for four or five 213 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:40,240 months. I believe you authorized that at a meeting earlier this year. So all that 214 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:46,720 said I I think the picture is pretty clear to you. Uh 9.2 to millillage is 215 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:53,039 what I'm anticipating and I'm also anticipating the uh split be 5 million 216 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:57,600 in the balance uh between emergency reserves and unassigned and uh you know 217 00:17:55,919 --> 00:18:01,520 the balloon should fall right now and the band should start playing when when 218 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:05,760 you get to give a speech like that in this business. So thank you for for 219 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:11,039 working together. No balloons. I get it. 220 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:14,720 » Sorry, didn't anticipate it. It's not Paul. Thank you very much. Um, are there 221 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:19,440 any questions for for Paul uh on the presentation you just provided to us? 222 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:23,039 » No, I just wanted to thank you for what you did on the budget. It was pretty 223 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:27,120 good. You know, with the work that you did, I'm very satisfied with it. 224 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:31,919 » The the duck in the pond understand duck in the pond analogy. We we look calm on 225 00:18:29,919 --> 00:18:36,000 the surface, but we're kicking like hell underneath the water. And so staff has 226 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:41,520 really worked hard. The manager's expertise is shining thankfully for all 227 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:45,280 of us. And you got what you need. You got what? This this village is is 228 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:49,440 clicking the way it should be. >> Thank you. 229 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:53,120 » I would ask one question, Paul. This handout we got this is the 9. This would 230 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:57,520 represent 9.2. >> That's the 92. I apologize. There's a 231 00:18:55,039 --> 00:19:00,960 there's the 93 lingering in the title was not edited. That's some my 232 00:18:59,679 --> 00:19:05,520 accountants are the best in the world, but they don't look at that line uh in a 233 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:09,200 when I ask them to send me something in in 10 minutes, that kind of thing. So, 234 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,960 my apologies, but yeah, that's the 92. I checked it. 235 00:19:09,679 --> 00:19:13,039 » That's what I figured. I just wanted to clarify that. 236 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:17,880 » I already sent them a note that by the way, when the budget's finished, fix 237 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,880 that. 238 00:19:17,919 --> 00:19:20,880 » This way. >> Yeah, it probably could have been 239 00:19:20,559 --> 00:19:23,760 printed. >> I think if we would put it this way, 240 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,840 you'll be able to see it much better. >> Yeah, in in landscape would have been a 241 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:32,039 little better. Uh I just turned my phone to the side so I can see it. 242 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:40,720 » So, but where's the difference coming from from the 9.2 to 9.3? So, as you as 243 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:46,400 you go down to the bottom three or four lines on that sheet, you'll see the uh 244 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:52,080 excess, which shows excess uh there's that's 245 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:56,320 where it comes from. So, you had a surplus in your budget and the 9 the 246 00:19:54,640 --> 00:20:01,200 only difference is the 92 and the 93 there's about $44,000 difference between 247 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:05,679 them in the surplus. So, you just subtract it from there. 248 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:10,799 So that's this is not in the agenda. The woodwork the 9.2. 249 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:13,799 » No, that was emailed out prior. 250 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,880 » I don't know if your mic's on, Commissioner. I'm having 251 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:23,360 » It's on. Sorry, it's better far away. >> Um, 252 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,000 » which one is this again? If I wanted to pick up, 253 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:30,159 » that one is not labeled, but it is the 92. The one today's handout at 254 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:32,400 » No, but I'm saying from the agenda. If I wanted to pick 255 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:36,480 » one of the agendas 93 >> and what's the name of it? Is it a 256 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,080 summary budget summary? >> Yes, that's the summary schedule. 257 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:44,400 » Thank you. >> Which is helpful because of the bottom 258 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:49,919 right corner gives you what you're dealing with. 259 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:56,559 » Okay, I see it. So instead of the 558 550 on excess, you have um 509. 260 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,320 » Correct. >> 66. 261 00:20:57,039 --> 00:21:05,919 » Yeah. So about 50,000. And which item, which line is being touched to get here? 262 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:11,919 » That excess line. That's the only one. >> Okay. So, you're basically 263 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:14,720 » the budget's unchanged. Just the surplus that you have at your discretion as I 264 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,400 was >> go into that saving. 265 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:22,080 » So, then you have a choice of how much of that you keep in an unassigned 266 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:25,039 category, which means it's not budgeted for anything, but it's readily available 267 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:30,880 without restrictions. >> Yeah. Then what you put into the 268 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,559 emergency roof emergency fund has restrictions. 269 00:21:31,919 --> 00:21:36,159 » Yeah. >> As you've adopted. 270 00:21:33,919 --> 00:21:40,080 » Yeah. >> And staff's recommending that you take 271 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,240 that allocation as 5 million and the balance 272 00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:46,480 » respective. Say it again. >> That you take that those allocations as 273 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:51,640 5 million in emergency reserve and the balance in an unassigned C category. 274 00:21:51,840 --> 00:22:01,039 » What percentage did we do last year? I believe it was 7030. 275 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:06,799 » You can see on the bottom >> like third or fourth column. Yeah, 276 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:09,520 » you'll see the two numbers there that >> those are the that's the balance. I 277 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:14,720 don't have the math right in front of me. And it changes a little bit because 278 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:19,039 as we actually finish the year, there's a new number. It it's never to the 279 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:24,159 penny. It can't be. We're projecting. Uh, so we force that percentage that's 280 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,760 in your ordinance or that when you adopt your final budget ordinance, you force 281 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:33,520 that percentage and that's what we will fit it to. You could this year if you 282 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:37,360 wanted to say like I said it in the resolution or the ordinance, excuse me, 283 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:42,960 5 million in emergency reserve and the balance in unassigned that we would 284 00:22:39,679 --> 00:22:48,559 accomplish that exactly that way. If you say percentage, we'll do a percentage. 285 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:51,880 But I I like the this the optics of the clean five. 286 00:22:52,400 --> 00:23:00,559 » Okay, great. >> A lot easier to remember, too. 287 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:04,080 » Certainly. Uh so I guess then uh really what's being proposed in front of 288 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,840 us is is what Paul's saying and what the manager is proposing. if we want to uh 289 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:13,280 if we want to put the 5 million into the emergency and put the rem the remainder 290 00:23:10,159 --> 00:23:17,200 into the unassigned um I guess outside of I mean outside of you know wholesale 291 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:21,039 changes to the budget that we have in front of us uh which I I don't 292 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:24,960 necessarily think we we we're dealing with this evening I think that's kind of 293 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:27,120 the critical decision if that this commission uh should be making right 294 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:31,120 now. >> Correct. In the in the net effect, if if 295 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:35,360 should you have an item that you decide to change between now and final reading, 296 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,880 it would just subtract the allocation to unassigned. 297 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,840 » Right. Right. Of course. And remind me the what's the approximate number of 298 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,600 that would be a >> little over 500 560,000. 299 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:51,200 » Okay. Got it. >> Okay. Um if there's uh if there's no 300 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:52,320 other questions from the commission, uh >> question. 301 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:57,520 » Oh, sorry, >> Paul. This unassigned versus assigned, 302 00:23:55,120 --> 00:24:01,360 we set that every year. So it's a pot of 5 million in excess. If we say we're 303 00:23:59,679 --> 00:24:04,400 overzealous this year and we put 5 million flat and next year we decide 304 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,559 there's going to be a big expenditure, do we reset? 305 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:10,640 » You can adjust it each year. Yes. >> So it's lock it's only locked in 306 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,960 reserves for one fiscal annually. Correct. 307 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,400 » And then so if we if we're overzealous this year, we could always re come back 308 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:21,840 next year. And that was a very conscious strategy 309 00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:26,960 of this commission to to not have a handcuff uh especially in the nature of 310 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:32,159 this village where you had lots of construction projects aspirationally set 311 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:36,480 a set set in front of you. You have lots of grants that come or go. You know, you 312 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:42,400 had a lot of moving parts where and you you don't have $80 million in reserves. 313 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:46,480 So, that was a very agile uh intentional thing to do and and I I wouldn't change 314 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:51,440 it either. I I like that it gives you that annual uh element. It gives you the 315 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:56,159 restriction of what's in the emergency ordinance, which is decent. You know, 316 00:24:53,200 --> 00:25:03,200 it's you picked it. Uh but you the the flip of it is your operating budget is 317 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:06,720 not very agile because if you had to move a sign and you're not it's a small 318 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:11,600 budget so it's not likely, but if you had to move significant money from admin 319 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:17,919 to public works or vice versa, that's an ordinance. And so that's less, you know, 320 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:22,720 agility and flexibility. So your flexibility really lies in having an 321 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:26,080 unassigned category at the bottom of your budget. It's just how you're 322 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:30,080 structured. And it makes sense. You you have a lot of pieces. And your CIP kind 323 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:35,039 of picked a lot of that up also historically that that's gotten a lot 324 00:25:32,159 --> 00:25:38,880 cleaner and clearer to present that. Okay, we have, you know, you're telling 325 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,799 everybody what your projects are in the CIP. You're not telling it because you 326 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,880 don't know what they are in the unassigned and that's healthy. I like I 327 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:51,919 like that approach that has all the parameters. It's got good separation of 328 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:57,360 context in terms of use of funds. So that it it this all this this checks 329 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:02,240 every box in the finance director world. >> Very good. Thank you very much, Paul. 330 00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:07,520 » Uh all right. So if there are uh no additional questions on uh this part of 331 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:10,400 the ordinance at this time, now we move to table this one. Sean, sorry. You're 332 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,919 going to butt in and stop me. >> No, actually. 333 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:17,039 » Okay. >> The only the the significance of the 334 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:23,840 discussion that that just took place is with regard to uh or how it impacts and 335 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:28,240 and is in section three of the ordinance adopting the final budget. Uh 336 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:32,640 historically or certainly last year, you specifically put forward 337 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:37,760 » percentages of of the the percentage, right? So, you know, we just need to 338 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:42,159 know between, you know, first and second reading um whether or not that 339 00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:46,960 percentage changes or if you're going to stay at the 70% 340 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:52,480 um for purposes of of making sure that the uh ordinance properly reflects your 341 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:56,400 decision moving forward. So then so based on the recommendation then 342 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:59,200 wouldn't we be amending that language if we if we are adopting what Paul and the 343 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,480 manager are presenting to us. Wouldn't we be amending that language to say 5 344 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:07,600 million into emergency and remainder into unassigned? 345 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:10,400 » It's in the ordinance it's set forth in in a percentage number. 346 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:12,799 » Okay. So you can just give us the percentage. 347 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:14,559 » I'll work backwards for the percentage. Yeah. 348 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:18,640 » Okay. >> Okay. I was going to suggest I feel more 349 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:22,880 comfortable with just moving along how we've been sustained a year over year 350 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:27,200 because then whoever comes next can have the history as to why we've done it and 351 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,520 I think that would keep it clean. That's my preference. 352 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,240 » That sounds good. >> Very good. I 353 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,600 » have questions. So are we are we done? Are you planning to jump into the next 354 00:27:33,919 --> 00:27:37,200 ordinance for approval? Is that the plan or 355 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,679 » So if there's visiting >> Well, if there's no other questions on 356 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:44,080 this one, then we would table this one. We go back to the first one for 92. 357 00:27:41,679 --> 00:27:51,200 » Okay. So, I do have questions on the CIP if we can um open that one. So, last 358 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:56,000 budget workshop we talked about putting money into the CIP for the 359 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,399 » renovation,000 for the playground. Correct. 360 00:27:56,399 --> 00:28:04,080 » So, that we're basically dipping into our pockets and taking out 300,000 to 361 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:07,279 use for this. Is that my correct reading? 362 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:12,080 » Uh in a in a manner absolutely. uh you're using unassigned funds, you know, 363 00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:15,600 whether they were prior year or this year or current, you know, what it 364 00:28:13,919 --> 00:28:20,799 doesn't matter. Yes, you're moving that in, but you also expended about the same 365 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:26,559 amount of the CIP. So, you're you're basically reallocating the same level of 366 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:31,840 investment in your CIP consecutive years. That's one way to put 367 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:36,480 to look at it. And then if I go into the specific projects, I want to look into 368 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:42,320 page number four of the budget. There is a line 369 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:50,159 items of capital improvement plans. So the comparison is FY26 and then 20 uh 370 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:55,679 2027. So I I want to understand I uh the comparison. So, for example, the log 371 00:28:51,760 --> 00:29:03,120 cabin roof ADA has FY2026 $78,000 and it's proposed at $70,000. 372 00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:08,760 What What does that mean? Do we need double the investment? What What are we 373 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,760 repeating this? 374 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:15,279 » I wouldn't be able to speak to how the budget allocation went like what how the 375 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:19,440 expenses are going. Maybe the manager knows off the top. I don't So again, I'm 376 00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:25,120 comparing FY2026 to FY 2027 for capital improvement plan. 377 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:30,240 » Some of some of those expenses we've already um we've already made in this 378 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:36,559 fiscal year. >> No. So that's not what I asked. So 379 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:42,159 adopted budget fiscal year 2026 for the log cabin. We had assigned $78,000. That 380 00:29:40,399 --> 00:29:45,039 project is ongoing and ready to go. Right. 381 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,520 » Yeah. that you have not financially been hit with all 382 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:51,120 » I got a quick look at it off the commissioner's tablet and and you've 383 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,399 only spent 5,000. >> Yes. 384 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:58,320 » So the rollover to be exact could have been maybe a thousand or so more. 385 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,559 » So it's just the difference between what's already hit the the accounting 386 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:08,720 system versus what's projected to be spent on the project. Okay, 387 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:16,320 » got it. So for example, the log cabin lightning here was $9,000. 388 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:18,399 so far spent. It was approved $50,000 in 2026, 389 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:24,720 » right? >> The difference will be $41,000, but we 390 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:29,120 have $50,000 allocated for 2027, >> right? 391 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:35,679 » So why are we having more? This is a question for the manager then. 392 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:39,760 » Yeah, I wouldn't know without looking. >> I didn't I didn't get that. Commission, 393 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,399 » is there a way you can uh put on screen the budget so we can all be looking at 394 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,360 the same stuff? >> That's the IP PDF. 395 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:52,320 » I'm looking at the it's called the capital project Fund FY27. That's the 396 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,039 the agenda today. >> Okay. So, what was your question again, 397 00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:59,039 Commissioner? >> So, if you go to page four, you're going 398 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:04,960 to see there's three columns. Year to date, which is what we've spent on that 399 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:11,840 project. Then you have fiscal year 2026 which is what we've approved and then 400 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:19,760 proposed is fiscal year 2027. So if we are we had already approved for 401 00:31:16,399 --> 00:31:26,000 this fiscal 50 grand for the cabin lighting why are we proposing what looks 402 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,960 to be additional 50 here you understand what I'm saying anybody 403 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:34,799 » not yet I I >> okay just I'll take 404 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:39,279 we go I'm good yeah >> because I think the the rest applies to 405 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:44,640 all of them um to your point I think it's more what has hit the books versus 406 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:49,080 uh what hasn't. But it looks like it's a duplicate. Like we haven't done 407 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,080 anything. 408 00:31:49,919 --> 00:31:58,000 » And you're on the lighting. Yeah. So you have a 50,000. So 409 00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:00,080 the allocation isn't as critical as the total amount. 410 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,600 » Okay. >> You follow me? 411 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:06,559 » Right. Yes. >> So you're asking 30 grand extra to put 412 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:11,919 into this project somehow. >> Not necessarily. uh the the allocations 413 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:18,880 can will change as the bills start coming in and the accounting person who 414 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:22,399 would pick the amount of money just smoothed it out a little bit because the 415 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:26,880 invoicing isn't really clear when we get it. So the at the the point of it is 416 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:30,720 that it doesn't matter as much as we're not saying we're shorting or or giving 417 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:35,279 more money to one of these line items. It's the total amount of money that will 418 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:37,679 be move that will move over into CIP. >> No, that's what I'm saying. So you 30 419 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:41,679 about 30. >> It's not a smooth It's not an exact 420 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:46,480 number if that makes sense. In the invoicing how much of it was designed, 421 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:51,760 how much of it is pre-order? We didn't pull it apart. 422 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:57,519 » Okay. My my bottom line was that we're asking 20 for 2027. You're asking 423 00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:02,159 $30,000 extra based on the just the bottom line more or less. that that that 424 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:08,159 30,000 the only re the only difference in that is how much of an invoice was 425 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:13,039 paid or not paid. So it's it's slightly higher. Yeah. I think the playground 426 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:16,559 might have been was only 300. 427 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:23,200 I don't I don't think we're actually asking for 30,000 more. Um I think the 428 00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:27,519 projects got became more clear if that makes sense. it. I guess on paper it's 429 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,320 30,000 more compared to prior year, but it has to do with how much was spent. 430 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:35,919 » That helps with my second question, which is we've we've talked about all 431 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:40,320 these projects besides the um the rec center uh specifically. So, Issa, I know 432 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:46,240 it's ready to go. For what I've heard, it's like ready to go into um bidding 433 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:50,320 process, right? The the whole park. What are we getting for 330? 434 00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:55,679 What's the village going to get? What's the what's included in there? 435 00:33:53,679 --> 00:33:57,919 commission. We'll we'll get you that information between first and second 436 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:02,320 read. >> Okay, great. So because I think that was 437 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:06,320 going to be the key question for me is like either we're increasing the total 438 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:11,200 amount on capital improvement plan year on top of the 300 that we were 439 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:14,399 allocating and then the commitment of what are we telling people that next 440 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:19,359 year is going to happen in the rec center and I'm curious what about so but 441 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:24,079 I'm okay with having that information again my two questions isa are going to 442 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:28,240 be what are we buying and are we going to do them next year so because we know 443 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:32,159 it didn't happen this year we didn't get the funing ing, you know, for it. We're 444 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:36,800 pulling out from the pocket. We're going to make this happen. What are we 445 00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:42,480 promising? I'm not clear on that. Um, so hopefully for the second approval, we're 446 00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:47,119 good. Um, and then yeah, I guess just fine-tuning what that means on the 447 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:50,800 bottom line. Yeah, I I we'll give you a a breakdown as when we pull together 448 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:55,760 everything, but there's there's more information moving around because when 449 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:59,440 you get the first bill for design, for instance, if you look the second to last 450 00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:05,200 line on there, the project support management, that shows all of the funds 451 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:08,880 were spent and there's nothing budgeted for the rest of it. That isn't actually 452 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:13,599 accurate because there's a percentage of the project management spent each time. 453 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:17,839 So that to to divide that up to to anyone's like to a pure satisfaction is 454 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:22,160 to take six projects and make them agree. It's not going to happen uh 455 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:28,160 easily. The it's really the bottom line. Uh so you added $300,000 to this but you 456 00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:30,960 spent $358. The difference between them is the 30 or so you're looking at. 457 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,240 » Got it. >> Yeah. 458 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:38,880 » Understood. That was my main question and I think I'm clear now. 459 00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:43,680 » Righty. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you, Paul. And thank you, Isa. Um, okay. 460 00:35:41,839 --> 00:35:46,160 Um, if there are no other questions on the ordinance, uh, at this time, let's, 461 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,839 uh, go ahead. >> I do have one question. 462 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:52,000 » Yeah, sorry. Go ahead. >> Uh, just a comment that we can get fixed 463 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:57,760 between first and second reading. If we open up the parks and wreck budget, uh, 464 00:35:55,359 --> 00:36:00,560 object code 49, I'll give you the page number in one second. 465 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,440 » 49. >> Uh, page 14, it's the arts and culture 466 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:09,040 board events. Those dates that we have there, just for transparency, those 467 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,320 don't equate to Fridays. there. I think those were last year's dates that just 468 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,160 got copied and pasted if for anybody who's looking at that. 469 00:36:13,359 --> 00:36:17,200 » Oh, I see. >> Just maybe fix those dates between first 470 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:21,119 and second reading because that's Friday, October 10th is it's not a 471 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,920 Friday and Sunday, December 14th is not >> I got that noted. Thank you. 472 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:28,320 » So, just that's just little things I noticed that maybe we can just for 473 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:32,000 transparency uh sake. >> All righty. 474 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,680 All right. Thanks, Commissioner. Um anything else? I don't want to cut 475 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:42,160 anybody off. Okay. Um All right. So then uh do I have 476 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:44,960 a motion to table uh ordinance 2026-06? >> Make a motion to table. 477 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,480 » Second. >> Okay. All in favor? 478 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:52,240 » I >> I Okay. And do I have a motion to reopen 479 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:58,079 ordinance 2026-05? >> Make a motion to reopen ordinance 265 480 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,680 adopted by minutes. >> Second. 481 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,119 » All right. All in favor? >> I I 482 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:06,320 » I Okay. Are there any um Well, we didn't have a discussion on this. We tabled it, 483 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:10,400 but are there any discussion points on the the millage the proposed millage 484 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:14,720 rate before we um call for a role? >> Yeah, I just have a comment. Uh this is 485 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:19,839 for you Paul. So when I was reading this or for John, I don't know who takes 486 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:24,480 this. Uh it says whereas the village commissioner of the village risk and 487 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:27,920 park received the certificate of taxable value on real and personal profit from 488 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:35,200 the Miami day county property appraiser who certified the gross taxable value 489 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:41,520 for operating purposes to be 4.7. Isn't that um the the the gross taxable value? 490 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:46,880 Shouldn't that be the whole amount of like the 513 million 491 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:54,079 and then what you actually are showing is the gross revenue that you're living 492 00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:57,920 at at 9.2. >> Okay. Uh I'm trying to figure out what 493 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,160 you're describing here. >> Looking at the ordinance. 494 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,440 » I don't have the ordinance in front of me, but go ahead. 495 00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:05,520 » Okay. >> I have I'm going to read it to you 496 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:12,160 » detail in front of me. The wording says um John you have it with you. It says um 497 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:16,160 whereas on the first paragraph, the village commission of the village of 498 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:20,720 Biskin Park received the certificate of taxable value on real and pro and 499 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:26,800 personal property from the Miami Day County property appraiser who certified 500 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:33,760 the gross taxable value for operating purposes to be 4.734 501 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:38,079 629 which is the the budget that we have ultimately. But shouldn't there be 502 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:47,200 because I think that this is actually the gross advalorum there will levy at 503 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:51,520 9.2. It's not the taxable value. I don't know what I read and I remember 504 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:55,280 we passed in July that the talkable the the total taxable value was around 514 505 00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,240 million. >> It is 514. Correct. 506 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,640 » Right. So it it shouldn't shouldn't this be the 514? 507 00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:07,040 » I can't see the ordinance so I'm not going to be able to answer you. I just I 508 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:13,680 let John clarif the numbers get flipped out of the right slot. 509 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:16,800 » I drafted the ordinance I left it blank for staff to insert the appropriate 510 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:22,079 numbers. >> Okay. 511 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:28,079 » So you to your point commissioner um the gross tax taxual value um certified by 512 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:31,760 the property appraisers the number that we will put in there. That number is 513 00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:38,480 currently incorrect. >> I will get with um um staff uh certainly 514 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:41,440 before um first and second reading to put in the correct number if this is not 515 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,200 the correct number. >> Just check on that poll that the number 516 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:52,800 at the end of a day is the taxable amount and not the leave at 2 point uh 517 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:59,359 9.2. That's my only comment. So it it to your point it should match 518 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:05,599 up with whatever was the number that was inserted into the resolution ex uh 519 00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:11,200 establishing the tenative millage rate uh and we will double check that. 520 00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:12,480 » Okay. Thank you. That's it. >> Mr. Mayor. 521 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,680 » Yes. >> What I would um 522 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:24,320 » what I normally recommend uh I can't speak for my 523 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:29,760 that uh the language in um section one of the ordinance 524 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:35,119 just to read it verbatim into the record because that is what you know those are 525 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:40,240 the magic words that uh need to be stated on the record in order to comply 526 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:44,960 with statute is to roll back rate and that you are establishing ing the roll 527 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:52,320 back rate u at the percentage rate that is higher than uh your I'm sorry 528 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:59,119 proposed final millage rate uh is higher than the uh pullback rate in order to be 529 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:03,839 able to fund the proposed final budget. >> Okay. So you're asking what you're 530 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,880 asking me then to read section one >> um or I can read it for you all. 531 00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:10,400 » Sure. >> Okay. 532 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:15,920 » Go ahead. So, you know, if for purposes of compliance with the um um statutory 533 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:20,000 requirements um 534 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:25,680 proposed um or final proposed millage rate um on first reading uh is as 535 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:30,240 follows. The fiscal year 2026 2027 operating millage rate for the village 536 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:35,520 of Biscane Park is set at 9.2 two mills per each 1,000 of assessed value as 537 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:39,119 certified the Miami Miami Dade County property appraiser as shown on the real 538 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:44,400 and personal property assessment roles for the 2026 calendar calendar year and 539 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:48,319 which is 5.97% greater than the rolled back rate of 540 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:54,079 8.68.20 20 mills. And the reason for the 541 00:41:51,119 --> 00:42:00,880 proposed increase is in order to fund the um proposed uh final budget uh that 542 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:06,400 you previously discussed um and to arrive at that um budget number. 543 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,839 » Okay. Thank you very much, John. Um all right. So, if there is no further 544 00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:12,160 discussion on the ordinance, uh Madame Clerk, would you please call the role? 545 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,560 » Mayor Gro, >> yes. 546 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,880 » Vice Mayor Gonzalez, >> yes. 547 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,520 » Commissioner Amsler, >> yes. Commissioner Huntington. 548 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,440 » Yes. >> Commissioner Samra. 549 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,920 » Yes. >> Mr. Mayor, the 550 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,960 the ordinance is adopted on first reading. 5-0. 551 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:33,280 » Okay. Great. Thank you, Madam Clerk. All right. Do I have a motion and a second 552 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,440 to reopen the second ordinance 2026-06 first reading? 553 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,960 » Make a motion to reopen. >> Okay. We have a second. 554 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,400 » Second. >> Right. All in favor? 555 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,960 » I >> I All right. If there is no further 556 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:47,280 discussion on this ordinance, I will ask the clerk for a role on this ordinance. 557 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:51,280 Oh, sorry. >> I believe that um as as amended because 558 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,960 you all >> as amended. Yes. Thank you. 559 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:59,119 » I have one one more question on that I forgot to ask. Sure. 560 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:03,839 » Was anything established in relates uh in relation to the roads? 561 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:09,200 » Was that touch as to how are we going to treat roads? What sort of uh uh projects 562 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,839 going to start for that >> in this budget? No. Commissioner's 563 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:16,160 house. >> So, we're not touching roads at all. Um, 564 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:22,720 what was the money that was needed to do five roads that was command um addressed 565 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:26,319 during the freebie uh contract? Was it like you said five rows for 150 or 566 00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:30,040 something like that? Is that what we're looking into to fix? 567 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:37,040 All right. >> Okay. Thank you, Commissioner. Um, are 568 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,839 there any other questions before we call the role? 569 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,400 » No. >> None. Okay. Madam clerk, would you 570 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,960 please call the role on the second ordinance, please? 571 00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:49,040 » Mayor Grub, >> as amended, sorry. Yes. 572 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,200 » Vice Mayor Gonzalez, >> yes. 573 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,520 » Commissioner Amsler, >> yes. 574 00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:55,359 » Commissioner Huntington, >> yes. 575 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,720 » Commissioner Samra, >> yes. 576 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:03,760 » The item passes is adopted on first reading as amended. 50. 577 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,720 » Thank you very much, Madam Clerk. >> Uh, having no further business on this 578 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,520 agenda, I will ask for a motion to adjurnn. 579 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:13,200 » I make a motion to adjurnn. Second. Second. 580 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,040 » All in favor? >> I 581 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:20,200 » I. >> All right. Thanks very much, everyone. 582 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:20,200 We'll see you back here in two weeks. 583 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:26,400 » I I I found what you were talking about. It had LA It had last year's number in 584 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,599 it. It wasn't when when you sent it to me, it wasn't blank. So, I didn't I 585 00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:36,280 missed it. I just sent him a corrected one. 586 00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:36,280 » No, it's right. You were right. It's 54 587 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,920 hours. 588 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,680 » Yeah. Well, I mean, 589 00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:05,079 » I remember 590 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:20,119 One of them had 591 00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:39,920 us still with 592 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,440 Okay. 593 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,319 Commission meeting over 594 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,200 this one.