[0:18] That's a thumbs up. All right,
proceeding. Good evening, everyone. We
[0:23] are here for our first of two budget
hearings uh to pass the 2627 fiscal
[0:30] budget. So, we'll call to order the
first meeting. I see 6:03 p.m. on
[0:35] September 8, 20, 2026. Uh, madame clerk,
would you please call the role for us?
[0:40] » Mayor Grove
>> here.
[0:41] » Vice Mayor Gonzalez here.
>> Commissioner Ansler, Commissioner
[0:45] Hunington here.
>> Commissioner Sam
[0:47] » here.
>> Mr. Mayor, you have a quum.
[0:49] » Thank you, Madam Clerk. Let's do the
pledge of allegiance, please.
[1:09] All right.
With this chair
[1:14] here,
[1:17] your budget for new chairs, Mr. Manager.
I'm just kidding. Okay. So, let's uh go
[1:22] ahead and move into our public comment.
We will start with public comment folks
[1:25] here in the log cabin and then we'll
move on to Zoom. Uh just as a reminder,
[1:30] public comment is uh three minutes per
speaker and please provide us with your
[1:32] name and address. Thank you very much.
[1:37] » I hate being short. Jamie Anderson,
11905 Northeast 11th place. I came
[1:43] tonight fully expecting to have to pitch
the 300,000 for the rec center uh
[1:48] playground equipment and then I looked
at the budget. I am so glad to see that
[1:56] in there. I mean, as few amenities as we
have, you have one that is so well used,
[2:01] such a focal point for the community to
have thought that it would have to be
[2:05] shut down when you had a shovel ready
project and you knew where the monies
[2:10] were from. Yes, it would have been
wonderful if we got the allocation.
[2:13] Well, life happens. Anyway, I hope that
stays in there and I hope we see that
[2:17] new equipment soon. Thanks.
[2:22] » Thank you.
Any others? Going once, going twice, up
[2:26] to Zoom. Do we have any on Zoom? Any
with Madam Clerk? See none. See none.
[2:31] Okay. All right. Very good. So, we'll go
ahead and close public comment at this
[2:34] time. Uh, any commission reply to public
comment before we move on?
[2:39] None. Hearing none. Okay. All right.
Very good. So, uh, let's go ahead and
[2:44] move into our ordinances as our
resolutions are empty for this evening.
[2:47] So, uh, John, just as a point of order,
uh, as a reminder for myself, I think I
[2:51] ask this every year. We the first we
will we will do the the we'll open the
[2:58] first ordinance item t did you expect
that I was going to ask this question?
[3:03] Yeah. Okay. So then yes one of you
>> under applicable Florida law um you must
[3:10] adopt the millage rate first before you
can adopt your final budget. However, as
[3:17] part of the mandatory consideration for
your millage rate is the budget. You
[3:23] know, without talking about the budget,
how do you decide how you're eventually
[3:27] going to get to your millage rate?
Unless, you know, you're you're pretty
[3:31] um as a group, you're pretty much okay
with your uh with the budget as it is
[3:37] being proposed that translates into your
existing millillage. Yes, the first
[3:42] order of business is to take up the
millillage. Um so what a lot of
[3:46] jurisdictions do and what this uh
village has historically done is you
[3:50] will read into um the record the
ordinance for uh the final millillage uh
[3:56] on first reading um t talk about it um
table it then read into the record the
[4:06] title of the ordinance uh on first
reading adopting the final budget
[4:11] discuss the budget and how it impacts
the millage rate. If there's anything
[4:15] that you may end up uh modifying in the
budget that would then again affect that
[4:20] millage rate, uh table the ordinance
uh uh for the adoption of the final
[4:27] ordinance, I mean, sorry, the final
budget
[4:29] » back to
>> and then go back and and uh take up and
[4:32] and uh vote on first reading of the
millillage ordinance and then
[4:38] » then go back to Got it. Okay, I I
remember. Thank you, John. One
[4:42] additional uh item
uh recent adoption of state statute by
[4:50] the Florida legislature because you are
proposing a uh increase in your
[4:55] millillage uh above roll back rate
there. It would have to be adopted by a
[4:59] four fifths um uh
>> right
[5:03] » oops
>> right
[5:05] » you don't need a a 40 because you're not
going above the 110% staying below it.
[5:11] So you need that purpose vote adopt both
uh items.
[5:17] » Understood. All right, John. Thank you
very much. So in that case, John, would
[5:20] you please read the or the first
ordinance uh on the record for us?
[5:23] » Yes, sir. The first ordinance is
ordinance number 2026-05
[5:27] entitled an ordinance to the village
commission of the village of Biscane
[5:30] Park, Florida, establishing and adopting
a final final millage rate and levy of
[5:34] advorum taxes for fiscal year 2026 2027
in the amount of 9.2 two mills for each
[5:40] $1,000 of assessed valuation upon real
and personal property within the village
[5:45] limits of the village of Biscane Park
which is 5.97%
[5:49] higher than the roll back rate of 8.6820
mills providing for an effective date.
[5:55] » Okay, thanks John. Do I have a motion
and a second to move the ordinance into
[5:58] discussion? Yeah, I I make a motion to
approve the orders 20265
[6:03] adopted final merit rate
2026 27 first reading.
[6:09] » Can I make an um I'm sorry an
intervening motion to table it so we can
[6:14] move into discussion for the budget
first.
[6:16] » Well, so
[6:21] » is that
>> that's what I meant to table it so that
[6:23] we can
>> we don't we motion do we have to approve
[6:25] it before we table it? No, you
>> Okay. So, we can motion to table it
[6:29] » discussion and you can take the public
comment on the
[6:32] » Well, that's what I was I was just going
to get to the public comment portion of
[6:34] it. Yeah.
>> Okay, cool. Got it. All right. Thank
[6:36] you. So, we had a motion on the floor
for to approve the ordinance or move to
[6:40] discussion. Is there a second?
>> Second.
[6:41] » Okay. Uh is there any public comment on
the ordinance before we discuss and or
[6:46] table
here or in Zoom? Going once, going
[6:50] twice. Seeing none. Okay. Now, I think
now I think you're good. Sure.
[6:59] » Make a motion to table ordinance 202605
adopt by Mr.
[7:05] » Second.
>> Okay. All in favor of tableabling the
[7:07] ordinance to move on to the second
ordinance.
[7:08] » I
>> I Okay, great. All right. So, John,
[7:12] would you please read the second
ordinance for us?
[7:15] The second ordinance uh is ordinance
number 2026
[7:20] on first reading entitled an ordinance
the village commission of the village of
[7:22] Miscane Park Florida adopting a budget
for fiscal year 2026 2027 for the
[7:28] village of Main Park Florida providing
for conflict scrimmers errors
[7:31] severability and providing for an
effective date.
[7:33] » John thank you. Do I have a motion and a
second to approve the ordinance?
[7:37] » I make a motion to approve ordinance
adopting FY 2627 final budget meeting.
[7:43] Second.
>> Okay. Is there any public comment on
[7:46] this ordinance either here or on Zoom?
Going once, going twice, hearing none.
[7:51] Okay. So, uh we'll talk about the second
ordinance first before we move back in.
[7:56] Um so, uh Mr. Manager, before we move
into it, and Paul, I don't know if you
[8:00] have any anything to add on it, but are
there any changes? Uh you handed out um
[8:06] uh the summary beforehand.
>> Um Mr. Mayor, if I could. Sure. So, um,
[8:13] just to give you a brief introduction
and then I'll turn it over to Paul and
[8:17] he'll he'll talk about both ordinances
tonight. You're you're going to make two
[8:21] decisions. What our millage rate should
be and then the first reading our of our
[8:26] budget. So, uh, we're asking you to set
the millage of 9.2.
[8:31] Uh, we have consistently lowered the
millillage each year. We're lowering it
[8:35] this year from 9.3 to 9.2. That's our
suggestion. Also they um are we're
[8:43] asking we had two budget workshops
already. Each department made a
[8:47] presentation of their budget. During
those two uh two days of uh budget
[8:53] workshops each of the directors came
forward uh presented their budgets. Uh
[8:58] you had back back and forth questions.
Um and as a result uh if you look at the
[9:06] budget summary I know it's it's very
small to look at but on the screen if
[9:10] you look at it so in 20 20 uh 2021
uh the uh the village uh had in in
[9:21] revenues we had an increase from 2020
2022 to 2027 we had an increase in
[9:28] revenues of of approximately 1 million
$570,296
[9:34] increase in revenue. And in the expan
expenditures,
[9:39] uh actually uh there's a difference in
2022 to 2027 and expenditure is a
[9:45] difference of 1,24,669
[9:50] uh from 2022 to 2027. So there's a
we're we're actually going to have a
[9:57] surplus next year of $59,661
[10:02] as the uh uh difference. Now Paul's
going to talk to you a little bit about
[10:07] our where we are with our reserves now u
and our emergency reserves and also on
[10:14] our our um operating reserves and what
our recommendations for those two uh
[10:20] reserves are. But financially, I think
you're really in a good shape and for I
[10:27] haven't in and the village I haven't
seen this in a in a a long time and I
[10:32] think it's a a testament to this board
and what your um your direction has been
[10:39] to to the administration and keeping our
our our budget down. So with that, I'll
[10:44] turn it over to Paul to make a a brief
introduction, a brief presentation about
[10:50] both the uh illustrate in our first
reading of the budget.
[10:54] » Thanks, Al.
>> You're up, Paul.
[10:57] » Thank you.
Yeah, these uh these sheets go a little
[11:01] small uh when you try to put a lot of
information and you may remember the uh
[11:06] state changed the law where you have to
have uh 5 years comparative budget up
[11:11] there at all times. So, that's one of
the reasons why the the budget looks the
[11:14] way it does is because of the statute uh
that they they added. Uh so like the
[11:20] village manager said uh this is again
and I I hate to be so positive because
[11:25] nobody believes me but uh this is an
exceptional uh beginning of a year end
[11:29] of a year uh type of budget meeting. Uh,
all good news. When if you can see on
[11:35] the the chart that's on the screen now,
if you go to the projected endofear
[11:40] balance, I believe it should be right
right around 1.3 million, and that's
[11:44] expecting about $230,000 for the next uh
two months of bill paying. Uh that
[11:51] that's a little complicated, but it's a
very large uh balance, and it has to do
[11:56] with a lot of funds uh through your CIP,
through everything. But the point is
[12:01] that that's really money that you have
available to you to transfer into the
[12:06] future. Moving over the 2027 budget that
the manager has and his staff have
[12:12] developed for you. Uh it has a built-in
$500,000 surplus.
[12:18] Again, those are very positive things.
The the basic, you've heard me say this
[12:23] and I say it every time, the service
level for the village has not been
[12:27] impacted. yet you're able to produce
this budget with with a substantial
[12:32] surplus. And because of that and and
dialogues we've with staff, we brought
[12:38] back to you a 9.2 based millage budget,
not the 93 that we had worked through
[12:45] because it was very obvious that that
was, you know, $40,000
[12:49] difference. It it just it would we we
understood and and the manager directed
[12:54] us that uh is very likely you would want
to lower the the rate. We're prepared to
[13:01] go back to the 93 which is your maximum
that you can consider tonight. Uh but
[13:05] the 92 still produces uh excellent uh
surplus. With that surplus
[13:12] uh and no changes to the service level,
everything that you've spent during the
[13:16] workshops is is intact. uh our one of
our most prominent residents that comes
[13:22] to all of our budget meetings made a
comment uh that she was very happy that
[13:26] the playground made it in there. I had
no doubts that that was the direction
[13:30] either. So I I don't know if people were
other people were worried about it, but
[13:35] the good news is it it is in your CIP.
This is a tricky picture to give you,
[13:41] but I so I'm keeping it simple. Just
saying, look, you're you're rolling over
[13:45] over a million dollars like we talked
about into your reserve components.
[13:50] You're keeping your CIP money uh that
wasn't spent, moving that over. You're
[13:55] you're adding 300,000 to it. I will note
that it's a little confusing because we
[14:00] only spent 300,000 and that's no one's
fault and we added in 300. So, it's it
[14:06] looks like the same number, but it is
not. We did expend uh we expect to
[14:11] expend a total of about 300,000 this
fiscal year, and that's not unusual with
[14:15] a CIP budget. And you can see the roofs
going on. You can see the other projects
[14:19] are moving, but the payments lag quite a
bit behind um contractually. So, with
[14:24] that said, uh I don't have a component
of your financial condition uh to
[14:31] complain about or criticize or to beg
for. Uh, so I'm going to be very boring
[14:36] in my my presentation. Uh, and that's
good news. The the the last piece of the
[14:41] puzzle for you uh today is to determine
how you want to handle the the reserves.
[14:47] Uh, no matter what millage rate you
pick, you're going to have a little over
[14:51] $5 million uh to to allocate at your
discretion. Historically, you've been
[14:58] looking at a 7030 splits uh 7525. you've
had kind of that range 30% being in an
[15:05] unassigned
reserves meaning money that the manager
[15:09] could come back to you and say hey we
need to buy this here's where I want
[15:13] it's not in the budget this is where
we're taking it from and that's it's
[15:16] like excuse the term it's a very large
contingency basically uh for e not not
[15:23] emergencies but more urgent unexpected
expenses emergencies are defined in your
[15:28] emergency reserve uh ordinance I believe
It's an ordinance and in that ordinance
[15:34] it identifies the emergencies that would
qualify using it. So there's there's
[15:38] really not a lot of risk in loading up
your emergency reserves. The the optics
[15:43] of it are fantastic. Uh should you be in
the
[15:47] bonding world one day, these are the
financial numbers that you're going to
[15:51] require to get a good bond rating and
and to be successful with a low interest
[15:56] rate. That's what a bond rating does for
you. It keeps your cost down. So, all
[15:59] that said, uh I think in a in
consultation with the manager that
[16:04] there's a really nice number sitting in
front of you uh that looks would look
[16:09] fantastic and be very healthy of of
putting your emergency reserves at a $5
[16:13] million even and let the b the balance
fall uh it's about $540,000 would fall
[16:20] into your unassigned reserves. Here's
why. Your budget is proposed with a
[16:25] surplus of about 500,000. So that's
going to be barring any operational
[16:31] changes that come to light through the
year, you're going to have a million
[16:34] dollars to at your discretion through
the manager to to handle. And that's
[16:38] that's kind of what I talked about the
last meeting or at the last workshop.
[16:42] That that's a very healthy number for
this village. It's it's uh it's 20 Yeah,
[16:47] it's 20% of your operating budget ready
cash. That's excellent. and and the the
[16:53] optics and the the philosophy, if you
will, of having a an emergency reserve
[16:59] of 5 million uh has tangible benefits.
Uh all of the money will be all of your
[17:05] extra cash uh is always in a in the
highest interest earning account that we
[17:10] that we're allowed to use. You have two
options now. One that have been
[17:14] authorized. One of them is the state
board account which is traditionally
[17:17] what everyone uses be but because of the
economy uh in saving or the rates are
[17:24] high enough now that the banks are
offering a qualified government savings
[17:29] account which you opened up and have
been operating in for four or five
[17:33] months. I believe you authorized that at
a meeting earlier this year. So all that
[17:37] said I I think the picture is pretty
clear to you. Uh 9.2 to millillage is
[17:44] what I'm anticipating and I'm also
anticipating the uh split be 5 million
[17:50] in the balance uh between emergency
reserves and unassigned and uh you know
[17:55] the balloon should fall right now and
the band should start playing when when
[17:59] you get to give a speech like that in
this business. So thank you for for
[18:03] working together.
No balloons. I get it.
[18:07] » Sorry, didn't anticipate it. It's not
Paul. Thank you very much. Um, are there
[18:12] any questions for for Paul uh on the
presentation you just provided to us?
[18:17] » No, I just wanted to thank you for what
you did on the budget. It was pretty
[18:20] good. You know, with the work that you
did, I'm very satisfied with it.
[18:24] » The the duck in the pond understand duck
in the pond analogy. We we look calm on
[18:29] the surface, but we're kicking like hell
underneath the water. And so staff has
[18:34] really worked hard. The manager's
expertise is shining thankfully for all
[18:38] of us. And you got what you need. You
got what? This this village is is
[18:43] clicking the way it should be.
>> Thank you.
[18:47] » I would ask one question, Paul. This
handout we got this is the 9. This would
[18:52] represent 9.2.
>> That's the 92. I apologize. There's a
[18:55] there's the 93 lingering in the title
was not edited. That's some my
[18:59] accountants are the best in the world,
but they don't look at that line uh in a
[19:03] when I ask them to send me something in
in 10 minutes, that kind of thing. So,
[19:07] my apologies, but yeah, that's the 92. I
checked it.
[19:09] » That's what I figured. I just wanted to
clarify that.
[19:11] » I already sent them a note that by the
way, when the budget's finished, fix
[19:14] that.
[19:17] » This way.
>> Yeah, it probably could have been
[19:20] printed.
>> I think if we would put it this way,
[19:22] you'll be able to see it much better.
>> Yeah, in in landscape would have been a
[19:25] little better. Uh I just turned my phone
to the side so I can see it.
[19:32] » So, but where's the difference coming
from from the 9.2 to 9.3? So, as you as
[19:38] you go down to the bottom three or four
lines on that sheet, you'll see the uh
[19:44] excess,
which shows excess uh there's that's
[19:50] where it comes from. So, you had a
surplus in your budget and the 9 the
[19:54] only difference is the 92 and the 93
there's about $44,000 difference between
[19:58] them in the surplus. So, you just
subtract it from there.
[20:03] So that's this is not in the agenda. The
woodwork the 9.2.
[20:07] » No, that was emailed out
prior.
[20:14] » I don't know if your mic's on,
Commissioner. I'm having
[20:16] » It's on. Sorry, it's better far away.
>> Um,
[20:21] » which one is this again? If I wanted to
pick up,
[20:24] » that one is not labeled, but it is the
92. The one today's handout at
[20:28] » No, but I'm saying from the agenda. If I
wanted to pick
[20:30] » one of the agendas 93
>> and what's the name of it? Is it a
[20:34] summary budget summary?
>> Yes, that's the summary schedule.
[20:38] » Thank you.
>> Which is helpful because of the bottom
[20:41] right corner gives you what you're
dealing with.
[20:45] » Okay, I see it. So instead of the 558
550 on excess, you have um 509.
[20:56] » Correct.
>> 66.
[20:57] » Yeah. So about 50,000. And which item,
which line is being touched to get here?
[21:03] » That excess line. That's the only one.
>> Okay. So, you're basically
[21:09] » the budget's unchanged. Just the surplus
that you have at your discretion as I
[21:14] was
>> go into that saving.
[21:16] » So, then you have a choice of how much
of that you keep in an unassigned
[21:20] category, which means it's not budgeted
for anything, but it's readily available
[21:23] without restrictions.
>> Yeah. Then what you put into the
[21:27] emergency roof emergency fund has
restrictions.
[21:31] » Yeah.
>> As you've adopted.
[21:33] » Yeah.
>> And staff's recommending that you take
[21:38] that allocation as 5 million and the
balance
[21:41] » respective. Say it again.
>> That you take that those allocations as
[21:44] 5 million in emergency reserve and the
balance in an unassigned C category.
[21:51] » What percentage did we do last year?
I believe it was 7030.
[21:58] » You can see on the bottom
>> like third or fourth column. Yeah,
[22:02] » you'll see the two numbers there that
>> those are the that's the balance. I
[22:08] don't have the math right in front of
me. And it changes a little bit because
[22:12] as we actually finish the year, there's
a new number. It it's never to the
[22:16] penny. It can't be. We're projecting.
Uh, so we force that percentage that's
[22:22] in your ordinance or that when you adopt
your final budget ordinance, you force
[22:25] that percentage and that's what we will
fit it to. You could this year if you
[22:30] wanted to say like I said it in the
resolution or the ordinance, excuse me,
[22:35] 5 million in emergency reserve and the
balance in unassigned that we would
[22:39] accomplish that exactly that way. If you
say percentage, we'll do a percentage.
[22:45] But I I like the this the optics of the
clean five.
[22:52] » Okay, great.
>> A lot easier to remember, too.
[22:56] » Certainly. Uh so I guess then uh
really what's being proposed in front of
[23:02] us is is what Paul's saying and what the
manager is proposing. if we want to uh
[23:06] if we want to put the 5 million into the
emergency and put the rem the remainder
[23:10] into the unassigned um I guess outside
of I mean outside of you know wholesale
[23:15] changes to the budget that we have in
front of us uh which I I don't
[23:19] necessarily think we we we're dealing
with this evening I think that's kind of
[23:23] the critical decision if that this
commission uh should be making right
[23:26] now.
>> Correct. In the in the net effect, if if
[23:29] should you have an item that you decide
to change between now and final reading,
[23:33] it would just subtract the allocation to
unassigned.
[23:36] » Right. Right. Of course. And remind me
the what's the approximate number of
[23:41] that would be a
>> little over 500 560,000.
[23:44] » Okay. Got it.
>> Okay. Um if there's uh if there's no
[23:48] other questions from the commission, uh
>> question.
[23:51] » Oh, sorry,
>> Paul. This unassigned versus assigned,
[23:55] we set that every year. So it's a pot of
5 million in excess. If we say we're
[23:59] overzealous this year and we put 5
million flat and next year we decide
[24:03] there's going to be a big expenditure,
do we reset?
[24:05] » You can adjust it each year. Yes.
>> So it's lock it's only locked in
[24:08] reserves for one fiscal annually.
Correct.
[24:10] » And then so if we if we're overzealous
this year, we could always re come back
[24:15] next year.
And that was a very conscious strategy
[24:19] of this commission to to not have a
handcuff uh especially in the nature of
[24:24] this village where you had lots of
construction projects aspirationally set
[24:30] a set set in front of you. You have lots
of grants that come or go. You know, you
[24:34] had a lot of moving parts where and you
you don't have $80 million in reserves.
[24:38] So, that was a very agile uh intentional
thing to do and and I I wouldn't change
[24:44] it either. I I like that it gives you
that annual uh element. It gives you the
[24:49] restriction of what's in the emergency
ordinance, which is decent. You know,
[24:53] it's you picked it. Uh but you the the
flip of it is your operating budget is
[25:00] not very agile because if you had to
move a sign and you're not it's a small
[25:05] budget so it's not likely, but if you
had to move significant money from admin
[25:08] to public works or vice versa, that's an
ordinance. And so that's less, you know,
[25:15] agility and flexibility. So your
flexibility really lies in having an
[25:20] unassigned category at the bottom of
your budget. It's just how you're
[25:24] structured. And it makes sense. You you
have a lot of pieces. And your CIP kind
[25:27] of picked a lot of that up also
historically that that's gotten a lot
[25:32] cleaner and clearer to present that.
Okay, we have, you know, you're telling
[25:36] everybody what your projects are in the
CIP. You're not telling it because you
[25:41] don't know what they are in the
unassigned and that's healthy. I like I
[25:45] like that approach that has all the
parameters. It's got good separation of
[25:49] context in terms of use of funds. So
that it it this all this this checks
[25:54] every box in the finance director world.
>> Very good. Thank you very much, Paul.
[26:00] » Uh all right. So if there are uh no
additional questions on uh this part of
[26:04] the ordinance at this time, now we move
to table this one. Sean, sorry. You're
[26:09] going to butt in and stop me.
>> No, actually.
[26:11] » Okay.
>> The only the the significance of the
[26:14] discussion that that just took place is
with regard to uh or how it impacts and
[26:20] and is in section three of the ordinance
adopting the final budget. Uh
[26:25] historically or certainly last year, you
specifically put forward
[26:29] » percentages of of the the percentage,
right? So, you know, we just need to
[26:34] know between, you know, first and second
reading um whether or not that
[26:40] percentage changes or if you're going to
stay at the 70%
[26:44] um for purposes of of making sure that
the uh ordinance properly reflects your
[26:50] decision moving forward. So then so
based on the recommendation then
[26:53] wouldn't we be amending that language if
we if we are adopting what Paul and the
[26:58] manager are presenting to us. Wouldn't
we be amending that language to say 5
[27:00] million into emergency and remainder
into unassigned?
[27:05] » It's in the ordinance it's set forth in
in a percentage number.
[27:09] » Okay. So you can just give us the
percentage.
[27:11] » I'll work backwards for the percentage.
Yeah.
[27:13] » Okay.
>> Okay. I was going to suggest I feel more
[27:16] comfortable with just moving along how
we've been sustained a year over year
[27:20] because then whoever comes next can have
the history as to why we've done it and
[27:25] I think that would keep it clean. That's
my preference.
[27:28] » That sounds good.
>> Very good. I
[27:30] » have questions. So are we are we done?
Are you planning to jump into the next
[27:33] ordinance for approval? Is that the plan
or
[27:36] » So if there's visiting
>> Well, if there's no other questions on
[27:38] this one, then we would table this one.
We go back to the first one for 92.
[27:41] » Okay. So, I do have questions on the CIP
if we can um open that one. So, last
[27:47] budget workshop we talked about putting
money into the CIP for the
[27:53] » renovation,000 for the playground.
Correct.
[27:56] » So, that we're basically dipping into
our pockets and taking out 300,000 to
[28:01] use for this. Is that my correct
reading?
[28:04] » Uh in a in a manner absolutely. uh
you're using unassigned funds, you know,
[28:10] whether they were prior year or this
year or current, you know, what it
[28:13] doesn't matter. Yes, you're moving that
in, but you also expended about the same
[28:18] amount of the CIP. So, you're you're
basically reallocating the same level of
[28:23] investment in your CIP
consecutive years. That's one way to put
[28:28] to look at it. And then if I go into the
specific projects, I want to look into
[28:34] page number
four of the budget. There is a line
[28:39] items of capital improvement plans. So
the comparison is FY26 and then 20 uh
[28:46] 2027. So I I want to understand I uh the
comparison. So, for example, the log
[28:51] cabin roof ADA has FY2026
$78,000 and it's proposed at $70,000.
[29:01] What What does that mean? Do we need
double the investment? What What are we
[29:05] repeating this?
[29:09] » I wouldn't be able to speak to how the
budget allocation went like what how the
[29:13] expenses are going. Maybe the manager
knows off the top. I don't So again, I'm
[29:17] comparing FY2026
to FY 2027 for capital improvement plan.
[29:23] » Some of some of those expenses we've
already um we've already made in this
[29:28] fiscal year.
>> No. So that's not what I asked. So
[29:32] adopted budget fiscal year 2026 for the
log cabin. We had assigned $78,000. That
[29:40] project is ongoing and ready to go.
Right.
[29:42] » Yeah. that you have not financially been
hit with all
[29:45] » I got a quick look at it off the
commissioner's tablet and and you've
[29:49] only spent 5,000.
>> Yes.
[29:51] » So the rollover to be exact could have
been maybe a thousand or so more.
[29:56] » So it's just the difference between
what's already hit the the accounting
[30:00] system versus what's projected to be
spent on the project. Okay,
[30:05] » got it. So for example, the log cabin
lightning here was $9,000.
[30:12] so far spent. It was approved $50,000 in
2026,
[30:17] » right?
>> The difference will be $41,000, but we
[30:21] have $50,000 allocated for 2027,
>> right?
[30:25] » So why are we having more?
This is a question for the manager then.
[30:31] » Yeah, I wouldn't know without looking.
>> I didn't I didn't get that. Commission,
[30:37] » is there a way you can uh put on screen
the budget so we can all be looking at
[30:41] the same stuff?
>> That's the IP PDF.
[30:44] » I'm looking at the it's called the
capital project Fund FY27. That's the
[30:50] the agenda today.
>> Okay. So, what was your question again,
[30:54] Commissioner?
>> So, if you go to page four, you're going
[30:56] to see there's three columns. Year to
date, which is what we've spent on that
[31:01] project. Then you have fiscal year 2026
which is what we've approved and then
[31:08] proposed is fiscal year 2027.
So if we are we had already approved for
[31:16] this fiscal 50 grand for the cabin
lighting why are we proposing what looks
[31:23] to be additional 50 here you understand
what I'm saying anybody
[31:27] » not yet I I
>> okay just I'll take
[31:31] we go I'm good yeah
>> because I think the the rest applies to
[31:36] all of them um to your point I think
it's more what has hit the books versus
[31:42] uh what hasn't. But it looks like it's a
duplicate. Like we haven't done
[31:46] anything.
[31:49] » And you're on the lighting. Yeah. So you
have a 50,000. So
[31:54] the allocation isn't as critical as the
total amount.
[31:59] » Okay.
>> You follow me?
[32:00] » Right. Yes.
>> So you're asking 30 grand extra to put
[32:04] into this project somehow.
>> Not necessarily. uh the the allocations
[32:09] can will change as the bills start
coming in and the accounting person who
[32:15] would pick the amount of money just
smoothed it out a little bit because the
[32:20] invoicing isn't really clear when we get
it. So the at the the point of it is
[32:24] that it doesn't matter as much as we're
not saying we're shorting or or giving
[32:28] more money to one of these line items.
It's the total amount of money that will
[32:32] be move that will move over into CIP.
>> No, that's what I'm saying. So you 30
[32:37] about 30.
>> It's not a smooth It's not an exact
[32:39] number if that makes sense. In the
invoicing how much of it was designed,
[32:43] how much of it is pre-order?
We didn't pull it apart.
[32:48] » Okay. My my bottom line was that we're
asking 20 for 2027. You're asking
[32:54] $30,000 extra based on the just the
bottom line more or less. that that that
[32:59] 30,000 the only re the only difference
in that is how much of an invoice was
[33:05] paid or not paid. So it's it's slightly
higher. Yeah. I think the playground
[33:10] might have been
was only 300.
[33:15] I don't I don't think we're actually
asking for 30,000 more. Um I think the
[33:20] projects got became more clear if that
makes sense. it. I guess on paper it's
[33:25] 30,000 more compared to prior year, but
it has to do with how much was spent.
[33:28] » That helps with my second question,
which is we've we've talked about all
[33:32] these projects besides the um the rec
center uh specifically. So, Issa, I know
[33:38] it's ready to go. For what I've heard,
it's like ready to go into um bidding
[33:43] process, right? The the whole park. What
are we getting for 330?
[33:48] What's the village going to get? What's
the what's included in there?
[33:53] commission. We'll we'll get you that
information between first and second
[33:57] read.
>> Okay, great. So because I think that was
[34:00] going to be the key question for me is
like either we're increasing the total
[34:04] amount on capital improvement plan year
on top of the 300 that we were
[34:08] allocating and then the commitment of
what are we telling people that next
[34:12] year is going to happen in the rec
center and I'm curious what about so but
[34:17] I'm okay with having that information
again my two questions isa are going to
[34:21] be what are we buying and are we going
to do them next year so because we know
[34:26] it didn't happen this year we didn't get
the funing ing, you know, for it. We're
[34:30] pulling out from the pocket. We're going
to make this happen. What are we
[34:33] promising? I'm not clear on that. Um, so
hopefully for the second approval, we're
[34:39] good. Um, and then yeah, I guess just
fine-tuning what that means on the
[34:44] bottom line. Yeah, I I we'll give you a
a breakdown as when we pull together
[34:49] everything, but there's there's more
information moving around because when
[34:53] you get the first bill for design, for
instance, if you look the second to last
[34:57] line on there, the project support
management, that shows all of the funds
[35:02] were spent and there's nothing budgeted
for the rest of it. That isn't actually
[35:07] accurate because there's a percentage of
the project management spent each time.
[35:10] So that to to divide that up to to
anyone's like to a pure satisfaction is
[35:16] to take six projects and make them
agree. It's not going to happen uh
[35:20] easily. The it's really the bottom line.
Uh so you added $300,000 to this but you
[35:25] spent $358. The difference between them
is the 30 or so you're looking at.
[35:30] » Got it.
>> Yeah.
[35:32] » Understood. That was my main question
and I think I'm clear now.
[35:37] » Righty. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank
you, Paul. And thank you, Isa. Um, okay.
[35:41] Um, if there are no other questions on
the ordinance, uh, at this time, let's,
[35:45] uh, go ahead.
>> I do have one question.
[35:47] » Yeah, sorry. Go ahead.
>> Uh, just a comment that we can get fixed
[35:50] between first and second reading. If we
open up the parks and wreck budget, uh,
[35:55] object code 49, I'll give you the page
number in one second.
[35:59] » 49.
>> Uh, page 14, it's the arts and culture
[36:03] board events. Those dates that we have
there, just for transparency, those
[36:07] don't equate to Fridays. there. I think
those were last year's dates that just
[36:10] got copied and pasted if for anybody
who's looking at that.
[36:13] » Oh, I see.
>> Just maybe fix those dates between first
[36:15] and second reading because that's
Friday, October 10th is it's not a
[36:18] Friday and Sunday, December 14th is not
>> I got that noted. Thank you.
[36:22] » So, just that's just little things I
noticed that maybe we can just for
[36:24] transparency uh sake.
>> All righty.
[36:30] All right. Thanks, Commissioner. Um
anything else? I don't want to cut
[36:33] anybody off.
Okay. Um All right. So then uh do I have
[36:37] a motion to table uh ordinance 2026-06?
>> Make a motion to table.
[36:44] » Second.
>> Okay. All in favor?
[36:46] » I
>> I Okay. And do I have a motion to reopen
[36:49] ordinance 2026-05?
>> Make a motion to reopen ordinance 265
[36:56] adopted by minutes.
>> Second.
[36:58] » All right. All in favor?
>> I I
[37:00] » I Okay. Are there any um Well, we didn't
have a discussion on this. We tabled it,
[37:04] but are there any discussion points on
the the millage the proposed millage
[37:07] rate before we um call for a role?
>> Yeah, I just have a comment. Uh this is
[37:12] for you Paul. So when I was reading this
or for John, I don't know who takes
[37:16] this. Uh it says whereas the village
commissioner of the village risk and
[37:21] park received the certificate of taxable
value on real and personal profit from
[37:26] the Miami day county property appraiser
who certified the gross taxable value
[37:31] for operating purposes to be 4.7. Isn't
that um the the the gross taxable value?
[37:40] Shouldn't that be the whole amount of
like the 513 million
[37:44] and then what you actually are showing
is the gross revenue that you're living
[37:49] at at 9.2.
>> Okay. Uh I'm trying to figure out what
[37:56] you're describing here.
>> Looking at the ordinance.
[37:58] » I don't have the ordinance in front of
me, but go ahead.
[38:01] » Okay.
>> I have I'm going to read it to you
[38:03] » detail in front of me. The wording says
um John you have it with you. It says um
[38:09] whereas on the first paragraph, the
village commission of the village of
[38:13] Biskin Park received the certificate of
taxable value on real and pro and
[38:19] personal property from the Miami Day
County property appraiser who certified
[38:22] the gross taxable value for operating
purposes to be 4.734
[38:31] 629 which is the the budget that we have
ultimately. But shouldn't there be
[38:36] because I think that this is actually
the gross advalorum there will levy at
[38:42] 9.2. It's not the taxable value.
I don't know what I read and I remember
[38:48] we passed in July that the talkable the
the total taxable value was around 514
[38:54] million.
>> It is 514. Correct.
[38:56] » Right. So it it shouldn't shouldn't this
be the 514?
[39:01] » I can't see the ordinance so I'm not
going to be able to answer you. I just I
[39:04] let John clarif the numbers get flipped
out of the right slot.
[39:10] » I drafted the ordinance I left it blank
for staff to insert the appropriate
[39:16] numbers.
>> Okay.
[39:17] » So you to your point commissioner um the
gross tax taxual value um certified by
[39:25] the property appraisers the number that
we will put in there. That number is
[39:30] currently incorrect.
>> I will get with um um staff uh certainly
[39:35] before um first and second reading to
put in the correct number if this is not
[39:40] the correct number.
>> Just check on that poll that the number
[39:43] at the end of a day is the taxable
amount and not the leave at 2 point uh
[39:48] 9.2. That's my only comment.
So it it to your point it should match
[39:55] up with whatever was the number that was
inserted into the resolution ex uh
[40:03] establishing the tenative millage rate
uh and we will double check that.
[40:07] » Okay. Thank you. That's it.
>> Mr. Mayor.
[40:12] » Yes.
>> What I would um
[40:14] » what I normally recommend uh I can't
speak for my
[40:19] that uh the language in um section one
of the ordinance
[40:27] just to read it verbatim into the record
because that is what you know those are
[40:32] the magic words that uh need to be
stated on the record in order to comply
[40:37] with statute is to roll back rate and
that you are establishing ing the roll
[40:42] back rate u at the percentage rate that
is higher than uh your I'm sorry
[40:49] proposed final millage rate uh is higher
than the uh pullback rate in order to be
[40:56] able to fund the proposed final budget.
>> Okay. So you're asking what you're
[41:01] asking me then to read section one
>> um or I can read it for you all.
[41:06] » Sure.
>> Okay.
[41:07] » Go ahead. So, you know, if for purposes
of compliance with the um um statutory
[41:14] requirements
um
[41:17] proposed um or final proposed millage
rate um on first reading uh is as
[41:22] follows. The fiscal year 2026 2027
operating millage rate for the village
[41:27] of Biscane Park is set at 9.2 two mills
per each 1,000 of assessed value as
[41:33] certified the Miami Miami Dade County
property appraiser as shown on the real
[41:37] and personal property assessment roles
for the 2026 calendar calendar year and
[41:41] which is 5.97%
greater than the rolled back rate of
[41:46] 8.68.20
20 mills. And the reason for the
[41:51] proposed increase is in order to fund
the um proposed uh final budget uh that
[41:58] you previously discussed um and to
arrive at that um budget number.
[42:03] » Okay. Thank you very much, John. Um all
right. So, if there is no further
[42:07] discussion on the ordinance, uh Madame
Clerk, would you please call the role?
[42:11] » Mayor Gro,
>> yes.
[42:13] » Vice Mayor Gonzalez,
>> yes.
[42:15] » Commissioner Amsler,
>> yes. Commissioner Huntington.
[42:18] » Yes.
>> Commissioner Samra.
[42:20] » Yes.
>> Mr. Mayor, the
[42:23] the ordinance is adopted on first
reading. 5-0.
[42:27] » Okay. Great. Thank you, Madam Clerk. All
right. Do I have a motion and a second
[42:30] to reopen the second ordinance 2026-06
first reading?
[42:33] » Make a motion to reopen.
>> Okay. We have a second.
[42:36] » Second.
>> Right. All in favor?
[42:37] » I
>> I All right. If there is no further
[42:40] discussion on this ordinance, I will ask
the clerk for a role on this ordinance.
[42:46] Oh, sorry.
>> I believe that um as as amended because
[42:50] you all
>> as amended. Yes. Thank you.
[42:52] » I have one one more question on that I
forgot to ask. Sure.
[42:56] » Was anything established in relates uh
in relation to the roads?
[43:01] » Was that touch as to how are we going to
treat roads? What sort of uh uh projects
[43:07] going to start for that
>> in this budget? No. Commissioner's
[43:11] house.
>> So, we're not touching roads at all. Um,
[43:14] what was the money that was needed to do
five roads that was command um addressed
[43:18] during the freebie uh contract? Was it
like you said five rows for 150 or
[43:25] something like that? Is that what we're
looking into to fix?
[43:30] All right.
>> Okay. Thank you, Commissioner. Um, are
[43:35] there any other questions before we call
the role?
[43:38] » No.
>> None. Okay. Madam clerk, would you
[43:41] please call the role on the second
ordinance, please?
[43:43] » Mayor Grub,
>> as amended, sorry. Yes.
[43:47] » Vice Mayor Gonzalez,
>> yes.
[43:50] » Commissioner Amsler,
>> yes.
[43:52] » Commissioner Huntington,
>> yes.
[43:54] » Commissioner Samra,
>> yes.
[43:56] » The item passes is adopted on first
reading as amended. 50.
[44:01] » Thank you very much, Madam Clerk.
>> Uh, having no further business on this
[44:05] agenda, I will ask for a motion to
adjurnn.
[44:07] » I make a motion to adjurnn. Second.
Second.
[44:11] » All in favor?
>> I
[44:13] » I.
>> All right. Thanks very much, everyone.
[44:16] We'll see you back here in two weeks.
[44:20] » I I I found what you were talking about.
It had LA It had last year's number in
[44:24] it. It wasn't when when you sent it to
me, it wasn't blank. So, I didn't I
[44:27] missed it. I just sent him a corrected
one.
[44:30] » No, it's right. You were right. It's 54
[44:37] hours.
[44:45] » Yeah. Well, I mean,
[45:01] » I remember
[45:16] One of them had
[45:35] us
still with
[45:43] Okay.
[45:46] Commission meeting over
[45:52] this one.