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All right, I'm going to call to order this meeting of the Vice City Council at 531. Can we have a roll call please?

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Council member Com, council member Garcia, council member Schwarz, mayor, pro-time front, mayor Mojoubi.

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Thank you. All right, public comment prior to closed session, this time is set aside to receive public comment on matters agendas for closed session only. Do we have any members of the public who are speak?

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I don't see any so we will move into closed session today we have conference labor negotiators

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pursuant to government code 549577.6 let's go

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we're going downstairs

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recording in progress all right let me call to order this open session of the

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There's a city council meeting at 6 o'clock.

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We'll begin today with a moment of silence as the weather keeps changing.

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But as always, remember that we cannot change the circumstances, the seasons, or the wind.

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But we can change ourselves.

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And let's hope that that change involves growth.

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Please join me at a moment of silence.

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Thank you.

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Let's start off with our pledge of allegiance.

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Council Member Schwarz.

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I mean for the page of Allegiance, ready to get a plate for you.

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Allison, can we have a couple please?

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Councilmember Kong.

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Councilmember Garcia.

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Councilmember Schwartz.

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Mayor Pro Temfort.

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Mayor Mojovi.

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And public comment.

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Notice to the public this time is set aside to receive public comment on matters not calendar

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on due agenda.

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When recognized, please stay your name and address for the record.

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And please let me your comment two three minutes under California law.

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we can't act on anything that's not in the agenda, but we'll definitely listen and encourage

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everybody to be involved. We have a few cards. First one up here is Beth Deeton.

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Come on up.

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I am here on behalf of the Michael Busoodoo Campaign. I see Michael is on the agenda he unfortunately

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was not able to make it tonight, but he did send a person with a statement and that's me.

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I live on 1828, Senator Lane in Bishop.

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Michael Masuda is, you probably know,

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running for Congress in California's Fifth District

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that covers all of our part of 12 counties,

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including, of course, in York County and Monroe County.

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It's over 24,000 square miles, the size of West Virginia.

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So it's a huge district.

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And all across the district,

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we're dealing with many issues

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ranging from wild fibers, fire insurance,

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healthcare costs and access,

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strictly small businesses, and mainstream economies.

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A demand or good paying local jobs,

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and households that are struggling to make it in the pace of rising costs.

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Meanwhile, in DC, that's not really top of the agenda most of the time.

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And these issues aren't being addressed, and it shows up here in our communities.

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Many people, including the other generations, are losing faith in our democracy and our ability to address these issues.

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Michael is an engineer and not a politician.

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He has a problem solver focused on bringing people together in a very divided time, so that we can tackle the challenges that we have in common.

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Michael grew up in the northern end of the street, in a small town in Ebony County.

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He spent nearly a decade as an electrical engineer, with most of that time working

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into Finn's research, developing new technologies to keep our troops safe from drones and

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missiles.

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He then became foreign affairs officer at the State Department, where he uses engineering

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background to inform our leaders on science, technology, and foreign policy into issues.

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He's running for Congress because he has two small children, a few or four-year-old son,

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and it's your real daughter, and he wants to pass on a country that respects their rights, treats

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them fairly, and creates opportunities for them to work hard and build lives of their own.

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He believes that local problems...

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Problems require local solutions and should be led by local leaders, and that we need a partner in Congress to bring our voices to DC, and bring our taxpayer dollars home to help address our local challenges.

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Our voices are important, which is why they're my pseudo-for-hongers campaign, which I would like to invite you to the moment of the area in the coming week.

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There's a couple of them, kind of the meat of why I'm standing up here.

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He is having a town hall, Thursday, September 3rd, 6 to 8 p.m. at the Bishop Senior Center

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on 6.82th Street. There will be refreshments and everyone invited to come and join in

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on the conversation. He will also, in a less formal capacity, be at the picnic with purpose

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the evening before, that's September 2nd, 530 to 730 p.m. that's just down at the Bishop's

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park, so super chill time to talk to them a little less formally. You can learn more about Michael,

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his positions, and upcoming events, including townhold details at the campaign so website,

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vote Masuda.com.com. So thank you for your time. Hope you see everyone at some upcoming

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events. Thank you. Next up, we have Joel Church,

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National Director of the California High School

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Right here.

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Hey.

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Good evening.

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My name is Joel Church, and I am the National Director, and I am here on behalf of California

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High School Radio.

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I want to thank City of Bishop for the support you have given us as state finals over

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the years.

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I think it came here in 05.

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Each year more than 300 rodeo contestants throughout California come to Bishop to our

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state finals.

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includes parents, siblings, the directors, the volunteers, and a significant number of people

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spending nearly a week here in Bishop.

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The reason I'm here tonight is that in recent changes to different entities into the community,

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including for our grounds and other things, the bills associated with holding our finals

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has increased tremendously.

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We understand that the costs are increasing everywhere and we certainly recognize that the

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background has expensive as its own. However, the size of the increases have created a

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financial challenge to our organization. We are a youth organization. We need to be mindful

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of what we ask our families to pay. Most travel hundreds of miles to be. To be here,

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willing horses and to express and the expenses of spending a week in Bishop.

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That is why I'm here asking the city of Bishop to consider increasing the financial

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contribution to CHSRA to offset these increases.

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No, no, last year we didn't ask for a contribution that was our fault.

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That comes in the increase we believe is an investment that comes back into the Bishop community.

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Funding helps to keep the finals here while the contestants and their family support Bishop businesses throughout their stay.

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We want to be in Bishop.

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We want to remain in Bishop.

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We want to call Bishop the home of the CHSRA, the California High School of Rodeo Association Finals.

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We value our relationship here. Thank you for your sport and for welcome our rodeo family's year after year and for your consideration for additional funding.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for all you do.

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Basic text.

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I know Justin.

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Come along.

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Are you both going to keep a tonter three minutes together?

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Thank you.

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All right.

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I brought him along.

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Oh, I out this time.

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So in 2005, we were lucky enough to get the rodeo here.

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It was quite a milestone.

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My whole family was on the board.

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We had so many people here helping us and getting us here.

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and it's just multitude of money from the get-go. Last or this year over a million dollars,

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I you can check your tax rolls to the community in 10 days. And that one week,

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we do better than we do any other time of the season. And it's detrimental to try and keep them here.

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After all the construction, I had construction from January till June.

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Justin's had it from...

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I couldn't even believe it.

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I didn't even believe it.

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At one point it was on both sides where people had to go down all the way past Looney being turned left

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and then come down beautiful Warden Street.

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So, it's hard to get there, I don't know.

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It is. It's been a nightmare to at least. And we're just hoping that a contract can, you know, be processed and considered for next year. And that the city of Bishop will work with us. I think Joel has the cost of the ambience, the generators. And what was the other one. Three.

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submit as yeah just so you have an idea if you have any questions

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Kerry has has Joel's information that those three were were massive to the

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association and you know the communities wonderful I mean they help with the

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buckles and everything and volunteers and people helping and but we need the

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business. So we're hoping that the city of Bishop will work with CHSRA. Both members

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old alumni.

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Well, that's been here more than half my life. Thanks. Yeah, I love it. Thank you.

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You know, thank you. Of course. Jessica Thanks.

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I'm Jessica Tech. My address is 1449 Cherry Tree Circle Bishop. I'm just here to support

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high school rodeo. My daughter high school rodeo as we love to see the finals here in

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shop and all of the support from our community and all of the people coming in to support

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high school radio. So we'd ask if you guys would continue to support that.

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For sure. Thank you.

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Next up, Rick Klug.

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Thank you Mr. Mayor and council members. Yeah, I live on rocking W.

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I usually don't remember to say that. And I'm just glad to be here. I mean, I got a lot

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of things on your agenda that is like, oh, I'd love to engage in conversation, but I tell

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stories. We don't have time for that. So, I don't have time for that. You don't have

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time for that. I don't have time for that. I would just like to pray over you if I

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may. Anyone who's willing, join me. Father, we just come before you and there's a

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lot on the agenda. There's good stuff. There's stuff that we might disagree

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about thinking about the high school rodeo and all of the businesses and what they've

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endured through the construction. Just Lord, thank you that we can do this together

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in a small community. We can differ and still respect each other, treat each other with respect

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in a small community. We just pray, Lord, for your grace, your hand on us, pray that you would

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give wisdom to our leaders, the City Council, the administrator, and the Department had grace

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and wisdom, ability to work with people, and that our people, Lord, we would come across with

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grace and wisdom ourselves for the good of this community and so yes we pray that before

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you with thankful hearts that we can we can even live here such a good thing and we

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pray this in Jesus name amen thank you. Thanks for it. Next public comment card is

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I can't gong for the Annual County Office of Ed.

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I'm going to do this correctly and give these to you.

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Thank you, too.

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Hi.

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Three minutes.

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Okay.

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Where do you live?

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I live on George Street.

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But I'm here in my Annual County Office of Education capacity.

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And I want to make sure that everyone in the community knows that for the last six months,

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Our Superintendent Barry Simpson and the Juvenile Justice Commission have given myself and my wonderful co-workers Serena.

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Money to create what we have decided to call the Community Compass.

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It is for families with children and grandparents with children and what it does is two things.

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First, we have categories of services and resources that everyone can use categories like utilities, food and thank you.

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It's because we've got our meetings.

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Dental and physical and mental health, utilities, a bunch of other things, and we have them all, all of the resources we've literally spent the last.

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Six months scouring and talking to people and holding meetings to get all of the resources with the correct phone numbers and the correct people as of today.

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Honnie, each one of the resources and people can just click on it and find what they need and whatever category they need.

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All of the schools by the end of this week will have the link on their school websites as well, so that for parents and families they can access it easily.

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The other part of this website is an up-to-date events calendar for, again, parents and families are our group.

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For example, our calendar has all of Amaka's food distribution days and times.

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It has county free library stuff. It has all of the things that are free.

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And then we have flyers that we upload.

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So, we have right now we have fall events, we had summer activities with all the pool hours and all the things that come with that as well.

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So, we hope you look at it, we really work on it.

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Please call me if there's you find a mistake, because that's what we're going to continue to do the whole time is make sure we have updated people and zone numbers and stuff.

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We've made it so that hopefully people can find the resources they need by just two clicks once they get on the website.

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So we have really great drop down menus with all the resources.

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So I hope you like it.

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Thanks.

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That's the end of my cards.

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Anybody else in the public wish to speak on matters not calendar on the agenda?

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I'm sure we'll have a future agenda on the California High School of Radio Association.

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Yeah. We will now move on to report on actions taken in closed session as required by law.

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No reportable action was taken.

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And so we'll move on to proclamations.

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We have three proclamations today.

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Our first one is Longa Radoo honoring the life and service of Judd Allen Simons.

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Um, who's going to be receiving this proclamation on his behalf?

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Do you want to come up?

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No, you don't.

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This proclamation is honoring the life and service of Judge Allen Simmons.

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Simon, sorry.

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Whereas Judge Allen Simmons was raised in Bishop,

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and the Oman's Valley began serving his community as a teenage sheriff,

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cadet earned his emergency medical technician certification before age 18 and later completed

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Stanford's paramedic training program and.

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Whereas Judre turned home to bishop in 1989 and together with his father established Simon's

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emergency specialties later Simon's ambulance providing dedicated emergency medical services throughout

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Oh, and Sally for approximately 35 years.

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And we're as on their job leadership, Simon Sandblanc is

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strengthening local emergency response and donated thousands

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of hours to medical standby service at full-ball games,

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rodeos, parades, and other local events in.

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Whereas Jed taught local emergency medical technician classes,

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mentored generations of first responders,

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and continued his calling as a flight medic, ground medic, and mentor with Sierra

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Life Light, until his passing on June 28th, 2026, whereas Judd was a devoted husband and

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father who's skill, compassion, steadiness, under pressure, and selfless service, touch

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countless lives, and left an enduring legacy throughout Bishop and the Owens Valley.

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Now, therefore, in recognition of his extraordinary dedication and service, the Bishop City Council

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honors the life and legacy of Judd Allen Simons and extends its deepest condolences to his family,

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friends, colleagues, and all those whose lives he touched. In witness where I have,

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I Stephen Movi, mayor of the City of Bishop, California, have here on to semi-hand and

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caused the seal of the city of Bishop EFX on this 24th day, August 26th.

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Thank you. This would mean a lot to you, Ed.

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He just lived to serve as community hand.

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This was an honor for him.

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Ann Ripley and was an inspiration.

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Next up, we have another proclamation,

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because this is loading. Recognizing September is national recovery months.

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Do we have, who is this requested by crossroads? Crossroads? Do we have a representative from crossroads here?

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just have a small group here.

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This is a platform too, we recognize a lot of what you're doing, but this is a platform

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to let the public know of what you guys up and up do.

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Anyone?

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I can share.

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You can share?

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You can share?

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Everyone's always talking and everyone's quiet.

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We've been up to quite a bit, we've been doing recovery housing, we've been giving support

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to people who've been criminally just as involved, we've been helping people in immediate

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crisis response and being able to show it for our community and kind of meet those needs

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for them right here in our town and so super proud of the work that's being done in honor to just

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stand with people that are up here and you know, to let people know that recovery is a beautiful

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thing, it's a beautiful process and that people do recover and I'm glad that we can all be

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part of that together and I don't know if Maria would like to share a few words to.

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Hi, my name is Maria Fierro. I am the Substance Abuse Cancer for Crossroads and I've worked in many

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places for many years and this is like the first time I have literally seen the whole person care

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method and how it works, but there's more to it if the culture that's involved in the way

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that they help the people, the people seem to be more willing and open, and willing to

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try new strategic methods of how to stay sober and have a successful life.

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Hi, my name is Eric. I currently live at the Silver Living House that Crossroads provides for

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community and I'm I'm not sober this week and nine months ago I was and nine months ago

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I was I was hopeless and I really didn't have any more to go and crossroads reached

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shatter hand for me and provided me a safe place to grow and really have a place to move

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in recovery and develop a program that really is allowing me to move back into the community

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in a really positive way.

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Thank you.

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Good.

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No one has to.

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Nobody has.

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We're definitely appreciative of all you are doing.

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It's a struggle going through every day.

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It's admirable that all of those who are recovering,

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like we're taking that that harder but more fruitful step because since they're not gonna say it

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um very extremely proud of each and every one of these men up here and the women that we have in

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our program because they are the ones who show up and they put the hard work in and they make the

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effort and they make all that happen in their accountable responsible and their amazing group of people

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and so I just want to acknowledge that especially for recovery month and they show up and

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volunteer and they give back to the community in ways that people have no idea that they're

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even doing. And so I'm really proud of all the hard work and that they made the choice to

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make those changes. So I just want to let you guys know that

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already. This proclamation is for

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National Recovery Month, which is September 2026, whereas National Recovery Month promotes awareness

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of substance use and mental health recovery and celebrates the millions of Americans who

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demonstrate that recovery is possible and

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whereas the city of Bishop believes every individual deserves the opportunity to live a healthy,

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meaningful and hopeful life and

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whereas we honor the courage and resilience of individuals in recovery and recognize their

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families, peers, health professionals, travel communities.

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Fake communities, employers, educators, first responders and organizations that support them in.

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Whereas access to compassionate, person-centered trauma-informed and culturally responsive prevention, treatment, and recovery services helps individuals and families heal and thrive.

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And whereas promoting understanding, reducing stigma and strengthening community support creates pathways to long-term recovery and reminds those facing substance use or mental health challenges that they are not alone.

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Now, therefore, in recognition of the courage of individuals in recovery and the contributions of those who support them.

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The Bishop City Council recognizes September 2026 as National Recovery Month and encourages residents,

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businesses, schools, and community organizations to support recovery, extend compassion,

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and celebrate the hope and healing that recovery brings. In witness where I've,

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I Stephen Mojove, you may have the City of Bishop California. Have your on to set my hand and

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us the Seal of the City of Bishop to be a fix this 24 days August 2026.

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Thank you guys for all your hard work and thank you keep it up.

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Thank you very much.

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All right, we have one more proclamation recognizing August 31st as International Overdose Awareness Day in the City of Bishop.

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Assuming this is, again, from you guys, across for it.

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All right, this proclamation as Steven Jussette is for International Overdose Awareness Day, which is August 31st, 2026, whereas International Overdose Awareness Day is observed annually on August 31st,

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First, to remember those whose lives have been lost to overdose, support those who

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grieve and inspire action to prevent future deaths and...

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Whereas, every life lost to overdose is a profound tragedy affecting families, friends,

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and communities.

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And every person lost, deserves to be remembered with dignity and...

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Whereas, other those days are preventable.

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An education, early intervention, harm reduction, treatment, recovery support, and

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access to live-saving medication such as Nalaxon can save lives in.

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Whereas addressing substance use requires cooperation among health care providers, schools,

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public safety agencies, tribal communities, community organizations, families, and individual

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with lived experiences guided by compassion rather than stigma.

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And whereas the City of Bishop supports prevention and education for youth, access to

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saving resources and services that help individuals and families affected by substance use.

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Now, therefore, in remembrance of those whose lives have been lost and in support of those affected by the substance use,

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the Bishop City Council recognizes August 31st, 2026 as international overdose awareness aid

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and calls upon the community to support those who are struggling or in recovery and work together to prevent future overdose deaths.

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And witness where I've, I Stephen Mahovie, Mayor of the City of Bishop, have here on two

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set my hand in the field of City of Bishop to be a fix. This 24th day of August 2026.

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All right, moving on to Department of Head of Repyreds. We'll begin today with Fire Chief Brett Russell.

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Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Members of Council and Members of the Public couple of things to

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go over tonight. First and foremost, I want to get a huge shout out to the Public Works Department

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for all the hard work they're doing out there online street. They're out there putting in

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extremely hard work during the PQ hours of the day. Couple events. The database coming up on

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September 6th and our folks are really ramping this.

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There's a lot going on behind the scenes that they're setting up for, so I highly suggest and recommend you guys come out.

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Second to that is the 911 stair climb, and that'll take place, obviously, on 911.

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If you come by the fire station and have questions about either of those events, we have flyers and QR codes that can map everything out for you, so please feel free to come by.

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There's been quite a few questions specific to ISO, which is insurance service office, and the website currently is very risk.

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VER, ISK, we've had a lot of questions within the organization and a handful of questions to the commissioners about insurance rates going up, insurance getting canceled, et cetera.

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etc. After lots of pressing numbers, I finally got a hold of a human today and was able to get some

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clarification on where the Bishop Fire Department stands. And so the room knows it's a class

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1 through a class 10, class 1 being the best. The city has a class 4, the rural area has a class 5,

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and it was a 59.444, so it was almost a class 4 for both the city and the rural.

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There's been a few things that we've done internally that we have a good chance of getting it to be a four in the city and in the rural area.

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There's some things that we need to provide to them as far as additional apparatus that we have purchased within recent months and years.

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And there's some things that the commission has done reaching out to the water districts to provide data that they actually do flow test and maintain their hydrants.

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And if I so was willing, there's a very good chance that we could have a double four,

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which is a huge thing for a department like ours.

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It was a lot of work that this organization put in to actually get it to actually be a four

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and a five within the city and the rural area.

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And if we can get it to a double four, that's definitely going to be the goal.

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But I do want to make it very clear that even if we had a class two rating,

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this is per them.

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It is still up to that individual adjuster to either up the price of insurance

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or cancel the insurance altogether.

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It does not have anything to do with the fire department,

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it doesn't have anything to do with us.

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We can do everything that we can within our organization,

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but it is not a reflection of the fire department.

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It's up to those gestures to actually either cancel or

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up the price or actually insure anybody.

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There's been a lot of talk about that.

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There's any questions from the public, specific to ISO and insurance.

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Council on the questions.

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I do.

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Chief, would it help with these questions and to educate the public if we were to

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provide some information about the recently approved Sun Zero?

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What?

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Sun Zero?

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The defensible space around homes?

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I think that would help their chances of maintaining insurance, but it's not guaranteed

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it's up to the adjuster.

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Correct, but, I mean, this is so recent, recently approved by the state that it will help everybody in our community to be informed.

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Yeah, I can't disagree with that.

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So I hope maybe because it's related to fire.

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And Sun Zero. So what in the world is Sun Zero?

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It's not grand zero.

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How far you set out new standards and the

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fanciful spaces around homes, especially?

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We're talking about home insurance.

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They are depending on where you live.

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Within zero to five feet, they should be nothing combustible.

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No plans, no wood fences, nothing.

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Within five to ten feet,

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they have other options, then to 20 feet I believe or to 100 feet for rural areas which we are in a rural area.

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So maybe share with the public what some zero actually means and what can we do to make our homes fire resistance.

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I would highly recommend going to the calfar website and getting a flyer so that you have all the specifics.

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I'm not familiar with that term, I've never heard it before.

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But yeah, the being a FireWise community helps everything you can do absolutely helps in the

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event of a wildfire.

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If you just go to Google and so it's called FireWise on Zero, you'll get all that information.

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Yeah, there was a new draft that was released this month on Zone Zero, and that's what is being referred to.

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Anything else, Chief?

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Last but not least, as always, huge thank you.

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and nothing but respect to our volunteers and paid staff for

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continuously going above and beyond the call of duty.

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That's all I got.

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That's all you appreciate it. Any other questions? No. All right. Please chief, Nater.

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Thank you, Mayor. Council member, members of the public. I just a quick update on what's we're working with on the police department side.

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One of our main projects is obviously working on the unfunded mandated emergency medical dispatch that has to be in place by January 1.

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Um, we're working out the logistics on that.

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We have some very promising, uh, prospects to hopefully get that set up in the next couple

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months.

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So we can kind of work it out with the trial and error process before we actually have to

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fully implement it in January.

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We'll come for you with, uh, actual propositions in the next couple of council meetings once

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we get all of our figures together.

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Um, but we are, it is on the top of our priority list and we're working forward to that.

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We've also been working with the consultant to work on the start of our electrical upgrade that was

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approved in this fiscal year for the police department primarily our dispatch center so we can be more resilient and

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provide a constant redundant service for our community along with working with the

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the 911 Commission in CaloES on our complaint to the 911 Commission for our lack of redundancy in our 911

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system. It's not just for us, but it's, you know, county,

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mono county across the board. We're going to different options. Obviously, we're

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limited because we're at, but working with them, we did follow a formal

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complaint several months ago, and that's actually started to get the ball rolling.

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So that's helpful. Also working on quotes. We still don't have all of the men

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for more of a closed circuit camera network system to replace the flux system that's

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cancelled. It should all be removed shortly and getting our two new patrol vehicles.

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There you guys approved for this fiscal year. We've received them today. We still need

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a wait for our outfitting equipment. That's kind of been slow to get the stuff here, but

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there should be up and running in the next couple months. Once we get the stuff and install

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so hopefully by the end of next month we'll have those two new ones up and then we'll be

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Yes. Otherwise, I'd feel like I have any questions in the end of my report. Any questions

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for a tutor? I have a couple. Are you guys participating in this, in the sheriff's

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putting on the National Light Out and in all of October, in the group on this year?

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Oh, big fun. Oh, big fun. Sorry. That's not going to matter right now. I just didn't read

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it thoroughly. Yeah. They put out a flyer today. So that's why I was wondering. And then

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How is the Court of Code enforcement person coming along?

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Code enforcement?

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Where are you talking about?

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Parking and enforcement.

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Sorry, yeah.

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Parking and forth and forth and forth and forth and forth and forth.

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We're flying in that position.

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Like I said, we've had some little bit of issues with filling the job.

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It's hard to get someone part time to get through a whole law enforcement background.

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But it's mandated.

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We did do some other.

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I was doing my use, just to be able to start stuff off like a tattoo before and we're getting our personnel involved.

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We also purchased some electronic equipment that a reduce cost of a person so that we can go out and we can make

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be more efficient at doing it so we can be out and our patrol guys can do it.

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It's just that don't want always patrol guys doing it because they're a high cost and so cost effectiveness of what they're doing with their time.

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But if we're the meantime, we are using work working on using auxiliary stuff to be able to do a parking enforcement

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Because we have started the enforcement already so then we want to continue to at least keep it going in the meantime while we can get

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personnel

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Equipped to be able to do so

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Right, thanks

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Anything

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All right, thanks chief

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Administration and city administrator Pam Fossard

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I just want to, you know, we often take time to thank the people who are doing the work for the city that are out in the public, and we're certainly grateful for them, but we are starting our annual audit, which makes me think about thanking all those people who help us run the business of running the city, the folks that pay the bills and run the finances, and so there's a, there's a team in the, in the, in the room next door, they'll be here for a few weeks, they're going to check all our things, make sure we're being good stewards of the,

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public's money and we're grateful for them and for the staff that helped them do that.

440
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,320
In the theme of continuing, of doing a good job of running the business of the city,

441
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:53,320
we're currently restructuring and having some pretty helpful and promising conversations

442
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,540
on the reception of the community services department, and we'll be rolling those changes out soon.

443
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,960
And I'm happy to report that

444
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:07,660
And we're a gumino, our public works director, is back to work. She's in the office relatively regularly these days.

445
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:17,020
And we're happy to have her back after her time out. And we're grateful that she's able to rejoin us. So thank you.

446
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:22,820
Any questions for him? No. All right. Thanks.

447
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:29,840
Move it on to consent calendar. Notice, so the public all matters under consent, consider routine by the city and we'll be acted on by one motion.

448
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,340
Do we have any council discussion on consent?

449
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:36,280
No, no.

450
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,060
Any public comment on consent?

451
00:40:43,330 --> 00:40:44,350
I see none.

452
00:40:44,590 --> 00:40:45,530
Well make a motion.

453
00:40:46,590 --> 00:40:47,650
What's the second it?

454
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:48,250
All right.

455
00:40:48,610 --> 00:40:49,590
We have a motion a second.

456
00:40:49,770 --> 00:40:50,610
Call for the vote.

457
00:40:52,590 --> 00:40:53,450
Council member Kong?

458
00:40:53,790 --> 00:40:53,890
Yes.

459
00:40:54,270 --> 00:40:55,050
Council member Garcia?

460
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:55,670
Yes.

461
00:40:55,850 --> 00:40:56,710
Council member shorts?

462
00:40:57,590 --> 00:40:58,710
Mayor Pro Temfreight?

463
00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:59,170
Yes.

464
00:40:59,370 --> 00:40:59,590
Yes.

465
00:41:00,730 --> 00:41:01,930
The motion passes 50.

466
00:41:02,810 --> 00:41:03,310
All right.

467
00:41:03,310 --> 00:41:09,890
On to new business, our first item is a League of California City's resolution.

468
00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:18,560
Each year, as part of the Cal City's annual meeting, resolutions that guide the

469
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,940
league's legislative efforts or governance are considered, at this year's annual conference,

470
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,580
only one resolution will be presented to Cal City's members for consideration.

471
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:31,400
Council Member Garcia will be attending the schedule's Cal City's General Assembly meeting

472
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,020
and as registered as the City of Bishop's voting delegate.

473
00:41:34,020 --> 00:41:39,780
Council Member Freyne and Council Member Kong will also be attending the scheduled Cal Cities Annual Conference,

474
00:41:40,420 --> 00:41:43,240
and are listed as the City of Bishop's alternate voting delegates.

475
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,340
Should Council Member Garcia be unable to serve as the city's voting delegate?

476
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,540
We are asking the Council's direction to guide the city's voting delegate and alternate voting delegates,

477
00:41:53,980 --> 00:41:59,380
in voting on resolution number one, calling for a working group to consider a state constitutional amendment

478
00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:04,980
or other form of initiative to ensure final local authority over housing and land use

479
00:42:04,980 --> 00:42:08,200
decisions submitted by the City of Mariaeta.

480
00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:14,840
This resolution calls upon CalCities to convene a working group to evaluate the feasibility

481
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,420
and potential framework of a state constitutional amendment or other statewide initiative

482
00:42:19,420 --> 00:42:23,940
that would ensure final local authority over housing and land use decisions.

483
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,120
The proposed resolution does not establish specific constitutional language or endorse or

484
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:34,500
endorse a particular initiative, rather it requests that CalCities form a working group to study

485
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:36,500
and develop potential options.

486
00:42:38,940 --> 00:42:41,560
We're asking Council to provide the city's voting delegate

487
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:46,560
and alternate voting delegates direction regarding the council's position on this resolution

488
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:52,780
to be voted on at the California City's General Assembly meeting on Friday, September 25th, 2026.

489
00:42:52,780 --> 00:43:04,440
Okay. Any council discussion on this resolution. I mean we seem to keep hearing repeatedly

490
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:12,800
that the state has just been changing zoning rules and all of that stuff and without

491
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:23,220
to actually considering any local input, this seems, I mean, it doesn't necessarily do anything

492
00:43:23,220 --> 00:43:29,120
at this point, but it kind of seems to be getting the ball rolling in perhaps that direction.

493
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:35,220
It would be nice that we would have some say, and it just seems like it's a step in the right direction.

494
00:43:35,660 --> 00:43:36,300
Yeah, I agree.

495
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:44,040
So, I think, Karen, do you have, I mean, Jose, they're not in get me, so I'm just saying that.

496
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:50,220
I mean, it's no, no, Dana, yeah, local control is what we are advocating for that.

497
00:43:50,420 --> 00:43:53,520
We have the final saying in land use and housing.

498
00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:02,700
Each year, there are at least a thousand bills that are discussed regarding reducing local control

499
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:08,160
or state imposed requirements or regulations or restrictions on housing and land use.

500
00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:15,520
So asking for the working group in what can we do to gain more control, it's no

501
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,060
brainer.

502
00:44:16,860 --> 00:44:17,940
Doesn't mean we're going to get it.

503
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,080
No, I don't think we are.

504
00:44:19,340 --> 00:44:19,940
People talk to you.

505
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:20,620
Yeah.

506
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,260
Exactly.

507
00:44:23,180 --> 00:44:23,420
All right.

508
00:44:25,060 --> 00:44:30,100
I mean, a working group is there's no harm to a foul and asking for a working group.

509
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:30,620
Yeah.

510
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,780
I'm not a huge fan of changing the Constitution, but a working group I'm okay with.

511
00:44:39,940 --> 00:44:42,600
So do we have any public comment on this item?

512
00:44:47,060 --> 00:44:50,460
So I think the direction we're getting, giving our voting delegates to vote yes on this.

513
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:51,260
Okay.

514
00:44:53,260 --> 00:44:58,200
Do we actually need to make, okay, now we've given direction.

515
00:44:58,740 --> 00:44:59,580
Direction taken.

516
00:44:59,900 --> 00:44:59,960
All right.

517
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,960
Moving on to the next item, consideration of the city participation in supporting year-round commercial air service at the Eastern Sierra Regional Airport.

518
00:45:09,580 --> 00:45:12,320
Hello, again. We've discussed this previously.

519
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:25,900
Recently, the group of folks that participate in air service plans around the area were notified by United Airlines for the small fee of $200,000.

520
00:45:26,820 --> 00:45:32,420
in addition to the other subsidy, but they could close the gap and provide you around air

521
00:45:32,420 --> 00:45:36,960
service. I brought this to you all to see if it's something you would like to participate in,

522
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:42,080
I don't know, a month or so ago, and the direction was yes. Since that time, we have had

523
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:47,380
conversations that ad hoc committee that meets with the chamber has met with Tony and the

524
00:45:47,380 --> 00:45:54,340
folks from the ad hoc from her team. There's two representatives from her board, and the chamber has

525
00:45:54,340 --> 00:45:56,800
also held their strategic mining sessions.

526
00:45:56,980 --> 00:46:00,820
So there has been quite a bit of discussion and collaboration amongst this.

527
00:46:02,180 --> 00:46:09,000
The Chamber, Tony and the Chamber have determined that they are able to at this point

528
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:16,120
participate to the tune of $15,000 from B-tid funds to contribute to air service.

529
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:34,820
So my recommendation going forward would be that we would contribute $35,000 from the city and make it a total sort of partner city of Bishop slash chamber of commerce visitor center contribution of $50,000.

530
00:46:34,820 --> 00:46:39,400
uh... my recommended funding source for this would be from the

531
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:45,220
agreement the annual marketing agreement that is uh... had with the chamber of commerce

532
00:46:45,220 --> 00:46:48,020
which is to the tune of eighty five thousand dollars

533
00:46:48,020 --> 00:46:51,880
uh... they've heard reducing that agreement to fifty thousand dollars

534
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:57,920
uh... and i have discussed with this with tony and and she is uh...

535
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,240
amenable to this change as well

536
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:04,800
We also have an ad hoc committee meeting coming up this Wednesday for that group.

537
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,660
And if that is the direction I am given, then Tani and I will work together to come up with

538
00:47:10,780 --> 00:47:19,340
an agreement for the $50,000 that will include deliverables for what that will $50,000 will achieve

539
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,640
as was discussed by the ad hoc members.

540
00:47:27,470 --> 00:47:38,130
I mean, I just want to add to that that at our ad hoc meeting, the members of the Chamber,

541
00:47:38,270 --> 00:47:49,550
including Tony were in full support of trying to close the gap and actually looking at how we

542
00:47:49,550 --> 00:47:53,510
could go about doing that in our working group.

543
00:47:56,190 --> 00:48:04,290
The sentiment in the room was that we want to have a meaningful contribution,

544
00:48:04,930 --> 00:48:09,090
but also, of course, keeping within our means,

545
00:48:09,530 --> 00:48:14,870
since of all of the entities that are contributing to this,

546
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:17,690
are the ones with, perhaps, the, well,

547
00:48:18,030 --> 00:48:20,170
with definitely the smallest budgets around.

548
00:48:21,250 --> 00:48:24,490
One other thing that I kind of, and so,

549
00:48:24,850 --> 00:48:29,330
and we even brought this up at that meeting about

550
00:48:29,330 --> 00:48:32,670
how the city's finances are, like,

551
00:48:32,830 --> 00:48:37,630
we can't just print money, and they are finite,

552
00:48:38,250 --> 00:48:43,850
and at that meeting, we brought up that the most likely place

553
00:48:43,850 --> 00:48:50,330
that this would come from would be from those from from that marketing agreement because

554
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:57,410
even tawny and the chamberboards were like, yes, this would be great for commerce and marketing

555
00:48:58,410 --> 00:49:12,290
in the community. So, I don't think anything that you've said come as a surprise to any of the

556
00:49:12,290 --> 00:49:16,790
show that we're both committed and together on this.

557
00:49:16,910 --> 00:49:21,910
One other thing that I would point out is not exactly a subsidy.

558
00:49:22,190 --> 00:49:23,510
It's a minimum revenue guarantee.

559
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:39,990
If they actually reach the revenue caps, we might not actually have to pay out of it

560
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:40,730
into this,

561
00:49:42,890 --> 00:49:48,390
if they actually do well and fill the planes,

562
00:49:50,410 --> 00:49:53,650
but yes, it's just a stating a commitment

563
00:49:53,650 --> 00:49:59,550
on our part to try to get to them. Is there anything else from those meetings?

564
00:50:00,270 --> 00:50:04,210
No, but I would like to add some my thoughts.

565
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:06,990
Okay. If unless anyone else...

566
00:50:06,990 --> 00:50:07,970
No, you'll go ahead.

567
00:50:09,450 --> 00:50:14,250
I do think I would like to add a little bit more money to this contribution.

568
00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:26,090
Because I feel like we should be helping our constituents the way we help them with sidewalks or with any sort of other public service.

569
00:50:26,090 --> 00:50:27,590
This is a quality of life issue.

570
00:50:29,110 --> 00:50:33,230
And we definitely will see a bump in tourism

571
00:50:33,230 --> 00:50:36,090
with air service during Thanksgiving holiday.

572
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:39,710
And I think a lot of tourists will use it,

573
00:50:39,830 --> 00:50:42,230
but also a lot of locals will use it as well.

574
00:50:42,690 --> 00:50:45,110
And I really do believe that some of that money

575
00:50:45,110 --> 00:50:48,330
should come directly from just our general fund

576
00:50:48,330 --> 00:50:53,230
and not just be-tid or marketing dollars.

577
00:50:54,990 --> 00:50:58,250
I have a question.

578
00:51:01,210 --> 00:51:08,490
Would this be an annual contribution or one time in the last time?

579
00:51:10,330 --> 00:51:12,610
Well, I think that's really up to you all.

580
00:51:12,610 --> 00:51:13,950
Budget every year, right?

581
00:51:14,370 --> 00:51:19,050
Yeah, but I just want to make sure we all know what we're getting ourselves into it.

582
00:51:19,210 --> 00:51:21,930
And I know, the answer to the question, but I wanted to ask.

583
00:51:23,770 --> 00:51:32,010
And since it's called minimum service or revenue, warranty, as Steven mentioned, we work

584
00:51:32,010 --> 00:51:38,550
to commit $100,000, but maybe we only have to give 75 because they did so well.

585
00:51:38,850 --> 00:51:40,510
And they don't need the 100 from us.

586
00:51:44,170 --> 00:51:44,690
In theory.

587
00:51:44,750 --> 00:51:45,210
In theory.

588
00:51:45,830 --> 00:51:46,050
In theory.

589
00:51:46,210 --> 00:51:47,010
I mean, in theory that.

590
00:51:47,010 --> 00:51:49,810
And we have someone back there that can help us answer that question.

591
00:51:49,810 --> 00:52:04,730
Well, I think what I mean, I think the what would come down to at that point is the partners who are filling the gap would arm wrestle over who's giving what level of contribution, right?

592
00:52:04,730 --> 00:52:29,990
I mean, so in theory we, in theory we could be asked to provide less in theory, but it would at that point it would be a bit more of a discussion amongst the partners as to who's contributing what dollar amounts actually a clarification on that so there was this so United came back with the 200,000 and I know

593
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:36,990
the airlines has been going around and talking to two different groups, has any other

594
00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:38,290
entity already committed?

595
00:52:40,050 --> 00:52:47,630
I do know that Mammoth Lake Tourism has increased their T-Bid contribution up to the

596
00:52:47,630 --> 00:52:48,630
maximum amount.

597
00:52:49,310 --> 00:52:55,590
I'm not going to get my numbers totally right here, but they were at like 42-ish percent and

598
00:52:55,590 --> 00:52:56,990
they can go up to 45.

599
00:52:56,990 --> 00:53:00,650
if the town mammoth lakes is willing to participate.

600
00:53:01,330 --> 00:53:09,970
I don't know if there has been any actual determination from the tribe or Mono County.

601
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:15,690
I think the tribe is a little bit influx with the recent change in their counsel,

602
00:53:15,730 --> 00:53:17,530
so I think those conversations are ongoing.

603
00:53:17,530 --> 00:53:33,950
And the way, if I remember correctly, the way that these minimum revenue guarantees are structured is that it's kind of a tiered system, right?

604
00:53:34,170 --> 00:53:46,270
Like we use this pot first and then that pot and then that pot and so like, are we, do you know where we would be in the pot of money hierarchy?

605
00:53:47,010 --> 00:53:59,450
Well, at this point I think that the, a lot of the tiering is already set based on the revenue guarantee for the rest of the year.

606
00:54:00,730 --> 00:54:07,030
And so this is really like they're basically saying at this point $200,000 will close the annual gap.

607
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:17,330
And so I think we're in that $200,000 discussion, just on that annual, you know, closing the gap on the year around service.

608
00:54:17,710 --> 00:54:22,510
So we're somewhere in that $200,000 neck of the woods.

609
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:22,830
Right.

610
00:54:23,690 --> 00:54:34,530
I guess I would want, so we would be on the last year, like it would actually go through all of it and then go to $200,000 at the end.

611
00:54:34,530 --> 00:54:37,370
Yes. Um, okay.

612
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:38,010
No.

613
00:54:39,490 --> 00:54:40,610
Oh, this guy.

614
00:54:41,050 --> 00:54:42,290
Someone wants to talk.

615
00:54:42,410 --> 00:54:46,530
This guy comes and interrupts me every time we talk about that.

616
00:54:47,850 --> 00:54:49,210
That foster man's lectures.

617
00:54:49,450 --> 00:54:51,750
And I might be able to help with with some of this.

618
00:54:52,110 --> 00:54:53,350
And we are still working on it.

619
00:54:53,370 --> 00:54:54,910
We are having meetings with some of the other partners.

620
00:54:55,130 --> 00:54:57,770
We don't have the structure down exactly yet.

621
00:54:58,330 --> 00:54:59,970
But generally we've.

622
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:27,540
We've come pretty close to or have hit the cap every year. So we generally don't have money left over, but if we do, it's generally rolled over into the next year. And of course, your, your budget annually, so you could do whatever you want and participate at whatever level that you want. But generally, the subsidies don't go away. If we got to the point where we were saving a bunch of money, that's when we start looking at, okay, we had another route, we had another location, we had another carrier.

623
00:55:27,540 --> 00:55:37,720
So generally, we don't really save on the subsidy, it just rolls over into the next year or, like I said, we add other opportunities.

624
00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:40,060
No, no arm wrestling.

625
00:55:42,260 --> 00:55:42,600
Okay.

626
00:55:43,420 --> 00:55:43,640
Question?

627
00:55:45,380 --> 00:55:45,680
Comment.

628
00:55:46,940 --> 00:55:47,960
May not have questions.

629
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:56,880
I do believe that our money from marketing agreement with the visitors.

630
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:07,440
It should be used better if we use some of that for this minimum revenue warranty.

631
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:16,360
35, I mean, I'll be willing to give more out of that funding more than 35.

632
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:24,720
Definitely, I also believe that T-Bid was created with intention to bring tourism.

633
00:56:26,580 --> 00:56:34,340
And we, everybody, have been, I mean, city council chamber, have been advocating for year-round service.

634
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:44,620
And I do believe that the T-Bid in the future should be used more than $15,000 for this purpose.

635
00:56:45,460 --> 00:56:53,280
I don't know if a fixed amount or a percentage of TV should be dedicated for Apple funding.

636
00:56:54,380 --> 00:56:59,780
I agree with Karen short, that we could do better.

637
00:57:00,060 --> 00:57:04,320
We can do more than 50. How much more? I don't know.

638
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:16,640
25, 50, I don't

639
00:57:21,470 --> 00:57:31,170
think it's possible. Yes, I think we can handle that and I think we

640
00:57:31,170 --> 00:57:40,010
already to the community to give back to the community. So yes definitely I'm in support of

641
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:50,390
the recommendation of minimum 50 but maybe maybe more whatever we can do 25 or 50 additional.

642
00:57:51,310 --> 00:57:57,190
I'm going to have to disagree. You can disagree with me. That's okay. I just wanted to say that.

643
00:58:00,470 --> 00:58:01,150
That's

644
00:58:01,150 --> 00:58:02,030
Good day, you're good.

645
00:58:03,590 --> 00:58:07,630
It seems to me that Karen's example is really great.

646
00:58:07,770 --> 00:58:10,130
She said, it's like sidewalks.

647
00:58:10,930 --> 00:58:15,690
If all of our sidewalks in the city bishop were pristine,

648
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:17,970
and there weren't things to trip over,

649
00:58:18,130 --> 00:58:19,770
and there weren't big tree roots.

650
00:58:20,450 --> 00:58:21,670
Sure, maybe give more.

651
00:58:22,090 --> 00:58:27,470
But right now, I think that if we were looking at general fund dollars,

652
00:58:27,470 --> 00:58:31,650
The constituency would say, heck, I'll drive to LA.

653
00:58:32,690 --> 00:58:36,830
Let me have my sidewalk in front of my house look like it sidewalk should.

654
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:40,530
So that's why I am perfectly happy with the 50.

655
00:58:40,670 --> 00:58:42,110
I think we should stay at the 50.

656
00:58:42,810 --> 00:58:46,310
Nothing's 35, but 50 with the 50 with the 50.

657
00:58:46,910 --> 00:58:46,950
Yeah.

658
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:47,130
Yeah.

659
00:58:47,710 --> 00:58:53,490
I don't think that there's anything that preclude us from looking at it again next year.

660
00:58:53,490 --> 00:59:00,930
If, you know, if we didn't get to the 200 or some other funky thing happens, but

661
00:59:00,930 --> 00:59:06,850
We're basically agreeing whether we mean to or not. We're basically agreeing to do this every year.

662
00:59:06,990 --> 00:59:15,230
That's the way this works. And I'm just not willing to put more in less everything else in our town was great.

663
00:59:15,370 --> 00:59:19,270
I have one thing written down on my notes, which was again sidewalks.

664
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:26,130
I mean, you took the words out of my mouth, I think, at this point, like, since it is

665
00:59:27,410 --> 00:59:34,850
the first time that we're contributing and like it is a trial period to see if we can close this

666
00:59:34,850 --> 00:59:48,450
gap and go in forward. I mean, I think I wouldn't be comfortable going into a deficit into the

667
00:59:48,450 --> 00:59:58,110
the general budget, at this point, especially since we arrived at this from conversations

668
00:59:58,110 --> 00:59:59,830
with the...

669
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980
I know the chamber is looking, or the visitor center is looking at, or discussing the possibility of increasing the be-tid amount, and a restructuring of the be-tid, but at present, I think they're capped at that 15,000 number, until those discussions are going forward of increasing that amount in restructuring.

670
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,460
I have notes, may I?

671
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:35,260
Okay.

672
01:00:36,060 --> 01:00:36,800
I'm going to be the rebel.

673
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,200
I disagree with you.

674
01:00:38,460 --> 01:00:39,280
Most of you.

675
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:41,000
All right.

676
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:47,200
So, the 85,000, and I definitely want to support the report.

677
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:47,960
100%.

678
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,560
I'll get that out there right here.

679
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:55,280
But I don't think we should be reducing from the chamber in any way, shape, perform.

680
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:04,120
So the 85,000 gets tourism into the city, into the county, into the surrounding areas.

681
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:10,400
If you want to get a bump in tourism, why are we reducing the funds to bring people into the city?

682
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:19,980
All right. So by taking 35,000 dollars, the contract that amount to the people that are basically are face into the public.

683
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,600
That's four less shows that they're going to get to go to.

684
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:35,600
Okay, so you own a bump in tourism, less people are going to know about Bishop because we're going to have less faces out there, so 12, 18 months down the road, less people are going to be coming here.

685
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,300
Because they're not going to be out there representing Bishop.

686
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,720
So we're going to have less tax dollars, less people coming here, so that's what you're going to get.

687
01:01:46,140 --> 01:01:49,980
I guess I would be interesting for me, completely to your point.

688
01:01:49,980 --> 01:01:53,260
And you're also, we're also, I mean, they're going to be laying people off.

689
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,240
We're going to have less people doing, they're going to have less money.

690
01:01:56,980 --> 01:02:05,620
Let me just ask you, no, when we, when we spoke at the, at the actual meeting with

691
01:02:05,620 --> 01:02:12,300
Connie and with Chamber members, when you're talking about laying people off, she had said

692
01:02:12,300 --> 01:02:17,680
that of the current $85,000 that's going, there are $30,000 is actually going to

693
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:24,980
employees and that and so we were coming up with a way to continue that. So it is not accurate

694
01:02:24,980 --> 01:02:27,120
to say that they're going to be laying people off over this.

695
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:31,520
I'm not saying they are. I'm just theorizing because you're going to have less dollars going

696
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,920
into the Chamber and the Visitor Center. Why are we reducing some of my contracts?

697
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:43,360
I guess my question would be I first of you and I weren't not in this meeting where it was

698
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:50,620
I've got some great of fun, but I wonder what if you, we feel to look at their advertising

699
01:02:50,620 --> 01:02:58,520
budget, what percentage of that budget, what actual dollar figures are used to advertise

700
01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:59,240
the airport,

701
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:08,980
and is that near that $15,000 that we're talking about, is it,

702
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:13,340
is it, is it

703
01:03:13,340 --> 01:03:16,340
I'm talking about the 35,000 that we're looking at.

704
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:17,940
Dennis, everything.

705
01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:21,340
I heard you saying that's part of the city's money that we are now contributing

706
01:03:21,340 --> 01:03:25,260
instead of giving it to the chamber that they used for travel.

707
01:03:25,660 --> 01:03:27,000
They asked us.

708
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,040
That's what it, that's where this came from.

709
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,220
And that was our suggestion to take some of it.

710
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,540
And of course they're going to say, I mean, they're not going to.

711
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,180
I wasn't at the meetings.

712
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,560
So I don't know what the whole thing was, but I just think it's a bad idea.

713
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:50,820
I think I just want to remind all of us, I just want to say, the marketing content that we have.

714
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:53,380
But we don't have one now, because it is right.

715
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:58,620
But the marketing content, it's with the Visual Center,

716
01:03:58,940 --> 01:04:01,600
now with the Chamber of Commerce, the Chamber and the Visitors Center.

717
01:04:01,780 --> 01:04:02,700
No, it's both.

718
01:04:03,380 --> 01:04:08,560
The Chamber of Commerce manages the Visual Center with the contact,

719
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:15,980
visitors in there. And the confusion part is that the same people manage both organizations.

720
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:23,640
The visitors in there and the chamber of commerce. And the content is for marketing.

721
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:25,940
That

722
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:34,280
part of the that goes to employees, but it's not dedicated for travel shows is for general

723
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,060
marketing.

724
01:04:37,820 --> 01:04:44,560
So I didn't think and a student said it was recommended by the

725
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:53,980
Chamber that was a month we'll be fine. So I don't see the need to to find

726
01:04:53,980 --> 01:04:59,540
about it. We don't want to we're not going to be getting to the details of

727
01:04:59,540 --> 01:04:59,980
Like...

728
01:05:00,210 --> 01:05:25,290
The structure of the chamber and those sorts of things. In front of us right now is whether we want to contribute to this minimum revenue guarantee, if we're going to contribute how much, and then if we're going to contribute, where should those funds come from?

729
01:05:25,290 --> 01:05:35,890
Well, I think one of the things that I appreciate about Dennis is that he is very forward-looking.

730
01:05:36,570 --> 01:05:46,530
And I guess for me the idea is if we do this this one year and we notice a noticeable change in,

731
01:05:46,770 --> 01:05:50,850
or if they come to us and they say this is a bigger hit than we thought it was going to be,

732
01:05:50,850 --> 01:05:54,470
Then then we can look at it again for next fiscal year.

733
01:05:55,070 --> 01:06:02,650
I just think she was assumed that that was what is what will happen is not correct in my eyes.

734
01:06:03,470 --> 01:06:07,530
Well, here's the, I'm going to just go back to what Jose said, here's the contract right here.

735
01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:10,790
It says part of what the contract is travel and sports shows.

736
01:06:10,930 --> 01:06:13,490
It's right here in the contract I've written front of me.

737
01:06:13,630 --> 01:06:13,690
Sure.

738
01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:23,850
So I mean, if we wait a year and we're already down a year, it's going to take 12 months to 18 months to get it back to the travel shows to get these people back.

739
01:06:24,690 --> 01:06:28,690
I mean, I just, I mean, you can have a discussion about,

740
01:06:29,610 --> 01:06:34,230
I mean, I know we're not here talking about the chamber. I just don't think it's a good idea to take.

741
01:06:34,390 --> 01:06:35,170
I mean, away from that.

742
01:06:35,170 --> 01:06:40,850
It would be interesting to see an actual attribution like analysis on how much is actually coming from

743
01:06:41,570 --> 01:06:48,410
trade shows versus, like how much tourism is coming from trade shows versus other means

744
01:06:49,670 --> 01:07:03,410
of marketing, I mean, and so I don't know that that's, I guess, first question, do we

745
01:07:03,410 --> 01:07:04,210
want to contribute?

746
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:08,470
Yes, and I would like some of that to be general fund dollars.

747
01:07:08,470 --> 01:07:13,190
How much are we looking at wanting to contribute?

748
01:07:16,980 --> 01:07:28,100
Well, if we added another 15, because I was thinking it would be fair, if we did, if we matched the, I always missed the B-tid and the T-Bid, those numbers, those things.

749
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:41,240
But if we matched the T-Bid, out of our general fund dollars, which is a very modest amount out of our general fund, that would be 30 there.

750
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:47,880
And then if we wanted to go with the marketing services agreement, you know, an additional 35.

751
01:07:48,140 --> 01:07:52,580
But you know, remember, the, the, the team ad markets, you know, the hotels.

752
01:07:52,860 --> 01:07:57,480
We still want to make sure that like all the businesses are getting represented through

753
01:07:58,220 --> 01:08:04,700
working with vis-à-vis a bishop. So we don't want to, you know, we want our entire business community

754
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,690
to see the benefits of their marketing. So we want to make sure that we don't

755
01:08:10,270 --> 01:08:11,950
I got to take too much from it.

756
01:08:12,210 --> 01:08:19,790
I'm just not okay dipping into the general budget until I actually see these sidewalk projects that are happening.

757
01:08:19,890 --> 01:08:21,050
But we can't do nothing.

758
01:08:21,450 --> 01:08:22,630
We're not doing nothing.

759
01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:23,310
We're talking about it.

760
01:08:23,310 --> 01:08:23,930
No, no, no, no.

761
01:08:23,950 --> 01:08:24,710
We're talking 35.

762
01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:30,710
But we can't like hold all services until the sidewalks are done.

763
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:31,690
I mean, that's just not.

764
01:08:32,450 --> 01:08:34,470
I mean, I mean, I don't know what I'm saying, like philosophically.

765
01:08:34,810 --> 01:08:39,090
We can use 15 out of our general fund that isn't part of the marketing services agreement.

766
01:08:39,610 --> 01:08:45,310
And, you know, projects that we've been wanting to see, all of us have been wanting to see, still will get done.

767
01:08:45,670 --> 01:08:49,310
It's not like we can't not do one thing.

768
01:08:49,530 --> 01:08:54,370
We can't wait for the sidewalks to get done until we move forward on all these other projects.

769
01:08:54,710 --> 01:08:58,090
But I think it's a deeper issue than that.

770
01:08:58,910 --> 01:09:04,070
You know, I frankly think we shouldn't do anything new that's not in the budget until we get some extent.

771
01:09:04,730 --> 01:09:07,110
But even if we don't say that,

772
01:09:09,010 --> 01:09:11,230
the idea that

773
01:09:13,790 --> 01:09:19,650
what we're saying is we want to start at a higher rate using money from general

774
01:09:19,650 --> 01:09:28,810
funds but then we've promised that right that's like in my eyes that's like given giving a

775
01:09:28,810 --> 01:09:34,670
kid $10 for his first tooth and then by the time he's lost his six tooth you're given him you

776
01:09:34,670 --> 01:09:40,710
know, $25. That it worries me that we're setting a precedent here that we, that it's not

777
01:09:40,710 --> 01:09:44,630
a, something that's continual that can work well down the line.

778
01:09:44,990 --> 01:09:51,030
This is like a one time, it's a one time mask. We can always re-evaluate for like future strategic

779
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:55,050
planning. Yeah, but I know I know it's not a one time mask for like this one time, but like

780
01:09:55,050 --> 01:09:59,890
we can evaluate on maybe having some of the T-Bid funds.

781
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:17,020
Support this more heavily in the future. Like the where the money comes from can be, this is, you know, an ask that wasn't budgeted. We didn't think about it in our strategic planning. It wasn't something that we were asked to consider until it wasn't an opportunity that was present at that time for sure.

782
01:10:17,020 --> 01:10:22,160
Well, and I think just in the way that Jose said, if we give 100,000, we can get maybe the only

783
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:27,620
these 75 pets that it plainness can be, that the money just rolls back in there.

784
01:10:27,860 --> 01:10:33,020
It's not like it's going to come back to us if other people have more money, or if, you know,

785
01:10:33,260 --> 01:10:37,020
for some reason that everything is just, you know, super packed all the time.

786
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:42,160
I love air service. I think it's a fabulous thing, and I have plenty of people who want to come

787
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:52,240
visit for Halloween and there's no flies, but yeah I just it just seems like a big amount

788
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,920
to throw out there right off the bat.

789
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:56,500
Yeah, what amount are you proposing?

790
01:10:56,940 --> 01:10:59,240
This is an additional 15 just to match the T-bid.

791
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:00,640
It's got a total of 50.

792
01:11:01,020 --> 01:11:01,640
Is that 65?

793
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:04,720
Okay, what?

794
01:11:05,220 --> 01:11:11,220
So she's wanting, she's wanting our 35, plus that it, if 35 from the, from the marketing budget,

795
01:11:11,220 --> 01:11:14,840
plus an additional 15 from General Fund, plus the be-tid.

796
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,380
So let's not talk about the be-tid amount.

797
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:21,600
We're just talking about what the city has control over.

798
01:11:21,780 --> 01:11:23,290
So you're advocating for 50.

799
01:11:25,060 --> 01:11:25,780
From the city.

800
01:11:26,060 --> 01:11:26,080
From the city.

801
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:26,240
Sure.

802
01:11:27,900 --> 01:11:31,500
Like in this next year,

803
01:11:34,620 --> 01:11:36,220
what are you advocating for?

804
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:38,640
I didn't have a number in mind.

805
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,820
But do you want else to come from general fund?

806
01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:48,080
Well, actually, let's hear from the public.

807
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,700
Any public comment on this item?

808
01:12:01,570 --> 01:12:01,690
Yeah.

809
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:07,140
Right.

810
01:12:08,440 --> 01:12:11,980
So in our meeting, we had last week in regards

811
01:12:12,780 --> 01:12:16,640
to the budgeting and our working group,

812
01:12:17,060 --> 01:12:18,120
we did discuss the increasing,

813
01:12:18,440 --> 01:12:21,080
going to the T-bit members,

814
01:12:21,540 --> 01:12:24,820
and increasing that per the percentage that is in the contract.

815
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:30,880
And then as we had talked about on the ad hoc, the 15 is what we can do max at the

816
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,900
T-bit, and then I think it's very generous.

817
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:38,680
Or we have talked about how we can move funds and re-budget some certain things.

818
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:44,820
And so I think it's a win-win situation for both a chamber and the city for the 50,

819
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:46,620
that we agreed upon at the ad hoc.

820
01:12:46,620 --> 01:12:54,100
So, and that was agreed upon from it coming from the marketing budget with the chamber.

821
01:12:55,020 --> 01:12:57,420
So the decision makers were present.

822
01:13:01,050 --> 01:13:01,270
So, yeah.

823
01:13:02,210 --> 01:13:02,650
Good job.

824
01:13:05,650 --> 01:13:06,350
I'm going to come up.

825
01:13:10,340 --> 01:13:10,940
Stay your name.

826
01:13:11,060 --> 01:13:12,460
So, Allison, can I add it to the record?

827
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:12,940
Thank you.

828
01:13:13,340 --> 01:13:15,080
I'm a board member for the chamber.

829
01:13:16,060 --> 01:13:21,600
I'm not sure that all the players have voiced all their participation yet.

830
01:13:22,260 --> 01:13:28,980
amounts. Is that correct? Like if man is tourism is given money. So I don't know how much money

831
01:13:28,980 --> 01:13:35,360
is needed at this point. So maybe this may be a bit of a return to we get all the parties

832
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:43,200
involved with all their commitment if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. Well I think that may be true,

833
01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:45,660
right? But there's sort of,

834
01:13:48,260 --> 01:13:51,300
I don't see why we can't say okay we're willing to contribute whatever.

835
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:56,440
This dollar amount of this group says and then, you know, the airlines folks can come back and say,

836
01:13:56,620 --> 01:14:01,080
all right, we're still $50,000 short, let's keep digging, right?

837
01:14:01,180 --> 01:14:04,820
It's I think we have to take somebody else to take a step forward and come up with a

838
01:14:04,820 --> 01:14:06,980
amount. That's, that's where I'm coming from is.

839
01:14:06,980 --> 01:14:08,080
Not appreciate that. So,

840
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:15,990
yeah, they're, they're still working on that, but yeah,

841
01:14:18,260 --> 01:14:18,980
any other

842
01:14:18,980 --> 01:14:27,660
members of the public? I mean, we could do, um, just 15 out of general fund, even though

843
01:14:27,660 --> 01:14:31,960
the marketing services agreement is general fun, but pretending that it's not, and just do.

844
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:32,980
But it's added.

845
01:14:32,980 --> 01:14:39,060
Committed general funds from a budget that we're not doing into our budgeted dollars.

846
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,060
But we could take some of the money.

847
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,440
You know, just keep the marketing services agreement.

848
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,840
You know, minus 15,000.

849
01:14:49,180 --> 01:14:52,440
And so they have a bigger marketing services agreement.

850
01:14:55,410 --> 01:14:58,010
So it's keep it at 50, but shuffling that dollars around.

851
01:14:59,310 --> 01:14:59,970
We can do that.

852
01:15:01,140 --> 01:15:27,440
But, you know, this was, I mean, since 2015, people have been saying, we want air service. We got there. And now, people are saying, we want your round air service. And I just, you know, I hear people are so psyched on it. It is something that they, it has improved the quality of life for so many people. It helps with our economy. I'm, you know, I just think that it's a, no brainer.

853
01:15:29,390 --> 01:15:38,610
I understand that. I mean, I also think we have other things to that people have been asking for longer than air service.

854
01:15:40,270 --> 01:15:51,390
And I mean, I think this is, since this is a one-time ask, like, I don't want to,

855
01:15:52,090 --> 01:16:13,390
Like, because essentially this is where I were talking about having a recurring expenditure, I'm not, I'm not in a place where I think we should be committing future councils to a lot more, and so I would still advocate that we do that we

856
01:16:13,390 --> 01:16:20,050
The future accounts are going to change until we hear back from the other parties that were

857
01:16:20,050 --> 01:16:24,570
involved that have been asked to contribute.

858
01:16:25,610 --> 01:16:31,910
How do we one of this make this, is this a stop direction or action item?

859
01:16:40,730 --> 01:16:45,090
So I'm going to make a motion to authorize the city of Bishop, participate in the regional

860
01:16:45,090 --> 01:16:54,010
effort to secure your round airline service through a $35,000 annual contribution taken from

861
01:16:54,010 --> 01:16:55,910
the marketing budget.

862
01:16:56,310 --> 01:16:57,650
I'll second that.

863
01:16:58,650 --> 01:17:02,310
Alison, we have a motion a second.

864
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:05,460
That's a member con.

865
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:07,120
Council member Garcia?

866
01:17:07,980 --> 01:17:09,020
Council member shorts?

867
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:10,960
Yes.

868
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,020
Mayor Pro Temfroynt?

869
01:17:14,220 --> 01:17:14,980
Mayor Mojouvi.

870
01:17:14,980 --> 01:17:15,260
Yes.

871
01:17:15,260 --> 01:17:17,840
motion passes for the one.

872
01:17:19,580 --> 01:17:26,880
Next up, resolution is establishing timed parking zones and permit parking zones pursuant

873
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:31,620
to section 10.28.1040 of the Bishop Municipal Code.

874
01:17:31,940 --> 01:17:33,360
Good evening Mayor and Council.

875
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:42,020
As you know, the city initiated the parking study to evaluate our parking demands and see what

876
01:17:42,020 --> 01:17:46,200
strategies would better manage parking in downtown.

877
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:51,340
So the data was collected on parking in 2024,

878
01:17:52,540 --> 01:17:55,800
and analysis showed the overall sort of class of parking

879
01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:00,200
over 900 spaces on the highest observed occupancy.

880
01:18:01,620 --> 01:18:05,820
However, certain areas still experience limited

881
01:18:05,820 --> 01:18:15,000
availability during peak times, yet parking is generally available within five to two minutes walk.

882
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:23,120
Based on the data collected, the public survey, public workshops, and two week common period

883
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:30,940
was all materials available in city website. The following strategies are proposed for the parking

884
01:18:30,940 --> 01:18:40,860
implementation plan. So the first strategy is designating four employee parking locations within

885
01:18:40,860 --> 01:18:46,980
less than five minute walk of downtown core businesses. This areas would allow parking

886
01:18:46,980 --> 01:18:55,900
for beyond two and three hour limits, but prohibit overnight parking. The second strategy

887
01:18:55,900 --> 01:19:06,260
proposed is to establishing two-hour parking from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. in areas that reached 9-200

888
01:19:06,260 --> 01:19:14,580
percent occupancy based on the study with no parking from midnight to 6 a.m.

889
01:19:15,940 --> 01:19:23,040
This strategy ensures that our highest demand and highest parking that need highest turnover

890
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,560
have more availability of parking.

891
01:19:27,780 --> 01:19:30,300
The third strategy involves a short street parking

892
01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:35,000
lot, increasing daily time parking availability for high school users, employees,

893
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,920
and events by restricting overnight parking.

894
01:19:40,300 --> 01:19:47,820
The overnight parking would be established in the

895
01:19:47,820 --> 01:19:57,780
available at the city hall and those parking lot will be available for visitors to live

896
01:19:57,780 --> 01:19:59,480
their car for a few nights.

897
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:10,820
It would not be a long term parking as I called it on the maps. We already have long term parking in CRS Street, where you can reserve parking for up to six months.

898
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,500
This is more intended for visitors to live cars overnight.

899
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:27,820
And then lastly, fleet parking, the city is open to providing some parking spaces on a agreement base to local businesses.

900
01:20:27,820 --> 01:20:31,900
and this will be handled on case-by-case basis.

901
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:39,160
Following the implementation of this parking implementation plan,

902
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:43,240
the next steps would involve creating a user-friendly map,

903
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:48,360
that shows all the changes, creating a website page,

904
01:20:49,740 --> 01:20:52,800
designing way-finding signage,

905
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,980
and installing new parking duration signage,

906
01:20:57,100 --> 01:21:03,620
the new Park Indian Ocean Signage 20 State to be installed in October and the way finding

907
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,060
signage is planned to be completed by the end of the year.

908
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:15,260
The Parking Permit Program and the fees would be brought in 2027 to avoid administrative

909
01:21:16,860 --> 01:21:21,360
burden of changing permits at the end of the year.

910
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:29,880
So, the staff recommends adoption of the resolution established and timed and permanent parking zones,

911
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:37,000
pursuant to sections 10, 28, 140 of the Bishop Municipal Code and directing staff to implement the

912
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:45,600
parking study recommendations listed in the Exhibit A and Implementation Plan Maps. Thank you.

913
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,600
any questions?

914
01:21:53,900 --> 01:21:56,480
I have a question. Um, I,

915
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:00,580
anyone who knows me knows I'm

916
01:22:00,580 --> 01:22:08,220
basically challenged, so I apologize in advance. Um, though a lot, um, on a

917
01:22:08,220 --> 01:22:16,060
academy and Warren, that lot is not looking at any changes. Academy, no. Okay.

918
01:22:16,060 --> 01:22:18,380
it will remain three hours. Yeah.

919
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:25,340
Okay. I have a question. So regarding like the permit parking

920
01:22:25,340 --> 01:22:31,900
for employees, do you have a plan on how we're going to manage that? Like is it going to be

921
01:22:31,900 --> 01:22:35,720
X amount of employees get X amount of like one business gets this many.

922
01:22:36,420 --> 01:22:42,200
Parking permits based on how many employees they have and then how long is the permit?

923
01:22:42,300 --> 01:22:46,580
And is it like a sticker or a hang tie or how are we going to facilitate all of that?

924
01:22:46,580 --> 01:22:52,420
at the start we were going to start just by designated locations for employees to park

925
01:22:52,420 --> 01:22:58,360
and letting them know that's that's the place that they can park there's no permit they just have to park there

926
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:00,160
yeah

927
01:23:00,740 --> 01:23:05,760
and they don't technically have to but they have if they don't and they risk having to move their car every three hours

928
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,980
or they're encouraged to park there yes okay got it okay yes okay it's not like a

929
01:23:10,980 --> 01:23:21,240
permit system. Okay. And then I wasn't clear exactly on the 6 p.m. or the midnight to 6 a.m.

930
01:23:21,500 --> 01:23:25,880
areas. Is that all the areas in town? I was confused by that.

931
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,600
Essentially what the goal is

932
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:36,240
to not have overnight parking in these lots. So okay. That's the, you know, the sign tends to

933
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:41,000
imply oh, you know, two hour parking from six to six. And then there will be an additional

934
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:45,900
verbizion there that says no overnight parking, but we did have some concerns about

935
01:23:45,900 --> 01:23:52,160
businesses that are open late and maintaining some of those restrictions during the

936
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,040
evening or early morning hours even.

937
01:23:57,540 --> 01:24:00,080
So I think the employee part of

938
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:09,360
can should be my permit only. Not open. So my concern. I concern there is just

939
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:15,320
administrative burden. Yeah. Well, and even if we had thousands of employees who could handle

940
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:21,180
the administrative burden, how do you stop people who are no longer working there from using

941
01:24:21,180 --> 01:24:25,500
those parking spaces, right? I mean, that there's a lot of, oh, that person got fired yesterday,

942
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:32,340
it's yank this sticker off their car. Yes. I mean, it isn't administrative burden. And there are plenty

943
01:24:32,340 --> 01:24:36,180
of lots. There are some lots that are going to be tighter than others that are sort of going to

944
01:24:36,180 --> 01:24:42,580
encourage to be employee only. But for example, the lot behind us where, you know, people

945
01:24:42,580 --> 01:24:47,260
park like that, that can be sort of longer term, not time limits, and we'll encourage employees

946
01:24:47,260 --> 01:24:53,340
to park there. We'll be monitoring overnight. There's certain times now that people who are

947
01:24:53,340 --> 01:24:58,320
parking overnight go into the PD and get a permit so that the PD knows to not tow them after

948
01:24:58,320 --> 01:24:59,320
a certain amount of time.

949
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:20,420
But yeah, the goal is to not be completely out there monitoring. I mean, the employee lots are not convenient to lots. They're not the lots right outside the doors of the businesses where the goal is to clear those lots so that shoppers and eaters and folks who are running in and out can get to those spaces.

950
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:29,780
And that's why I think the permit only will allow PD to identify vehicles that have

951
01:25:29,780 --> 01:25:36,160
allowed to be there and versus those that are not, can be, but somebody else will be

952
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,580
part there for longer than allowed.

953
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:43,680
But I bet it would cost us like a hundred and a year to manage some sort of permits

954
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:52,180
system. I mean, it would be a string. But okay, I mean, comment. But the point I think that

955
01:25:52,180 --> 01:25:58,960
you're getting at is how if you have this employee parking, how are you going to ensure

956
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:08,540
that it was actually in those lots are employees on like on their shift or whatnot and just not

957
01:26:08,540 --> 01:26:10,860
to somebody who realized like,

958
01:26:10,940 --> 01:26:14,740
I could just park there for a couple of hours all day long.

959
01:26:16,340 --> 01:26:19,300
The hard thing is when we start looking at it,

960
01:26:19,380 --> 01:26:22,980
is the moment that we put burden on employee,

961
01:26:23,220 --> 01:26:25,440
that we want employees to want to park

962
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:28,360
in those employee lots or the longer term lots.

963
01:26:28,500 --> 01:26:32,140
And if we start putting more hoops to jump through

964
01:26:32,140 --> 01:26:34,680
for them to do that, the less likely they are to do it.

965
01:26:35,300 --> 01:26:37,940
So the goal is to, and if it gets to having to be that way

966
01:26:37,940 --> 01:26:39,460
that we can reassess that.

967
01:26:39,620 --> 01:26:42,480
But our main goal is like, if we start enforcing

968
01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:46,020
the more or less block corridor, where we have the three-hour parking,

969
01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:48,920
so that we do have better flow of business

970
01:26:49,980 --> 01:26:53,500
than the employees will start to park into the city lot

971
01:26:53,500 --> 01:26:56,240
in the 12 hour loss behind the Elx and all of that.

972
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,920
And that's started to already kind of work just off of that.

973
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:01,540
It's just word of mouth and let them know

974
01:27:01,540 --> 01:27:03,820
and to work on the businesses that their employees know.

975
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:05,380
It's already started to work that way.

976
01:27:05,380 --> 01:27:11,160
And I think jumping into a whole permit system, both staff costs, and then making employees

977
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,540
have to jump through more chains to be able to park.

978
01:27:13,820 --> 01:27:17,460
We're not trying to be more strict through trying to be less restrictive and just kind

979
01:27:17,460 --> 01:27:20,180
of just ease the flow for businesses.

980
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:22,400
And let's just be clear.

981
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:30,620
A lot of the reason why this is coming about is at the request of business owners and the

982
01:27:30,620 --> 01:27:41,020
town corridor. By far. By far. They have been requesting that we start enforcing the time limits

983
01:27:41,020 --> 01:27:47,500
and looking at these employee lots. I actually don't know if anyone else had a person

984
01:27:47,500 --> 01:27:58,220
contacted me besides business owners requesting it. Some questions that I have are around the

985
01:27:58,220 --> 01:28:08,160
long-term lots. And so right now there's what are the existing long-term lots in the city.

986
01:28:08,420 --> 01:28:15,100
We have one existing long-term lot on CRS Street. And how does and what is long-term mean

987
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:23,300
and how does somebody like go part there? So we have a fee that between 200 to 300 dollars

988
01:28:23,300 --> 01:28:32,260
for six months, and people get the permits at the police department, and the permit is valid for six months.

989
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:42,540
Okay, and there are obviously regulations with those long-term lots about not having

990
01:28:42,540 --> 01:28:49,100
living out of an RV there in those sorts of things. Yes. And then in this new proposal,

991
01:28:49,100 --> 01:28:57,940
serious treat is still the only long-term lot. And then the other question is around the overnight

992
01:28:57,940 --> 01:29:06,080
lots. Currently, what are the overnight lots that exist? Are there any?

993
01:29:07,140 --> 01:29:13,280
Currently, we use, so kind of what's to put out there through the chamber through businesses is

994
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:17,060
to come to the police department and this was standing long before I got there. They come to the

995
01:29:17,060 --> 01:29:23,620
They give their name and their vehicle description, plate number, and they park their into the city lot.

996
01:29:24,900 --> 01:29:27,240
And then, but there's no regulation on where to park.

997
01:29:27,380 --> 01:29:32,740
So CO Street Lot, those long-term parking lots are actually designated their numbered public works,

998
01:29:32,740 --> 01:29:36,500
as it nice and set up for them, that they, you know, I get space 31.

999
01:29:37,140 --> 01:29:41,940
You park your boat because you live in the Sierra Tour de Park right there, and you park your boat over there.

1000
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:43,420
That's the most common situation.

1001
01:29:45,260 --> 01:29:50,340
Now, for like overnight, for if you're going to do a hike for five days, or you can do a

1002
01:29:50,340 --> 01:29:53,960
bishop pass, or whatever it is, you come in and sound me there for five days.

1003
01:29:54,180 --> 01:29:54,700
They park over there.

1004
01:29:54,780 --> 01:29:59,980
It's unregulated on where they park, so then we have an event come up and they need to use that.

1005
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,960
parking lot, and we have a vehicle that's sitting there. We can't legally tow it. We already, you know, so then we have vehicles in the way.

1006
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:16,940
So, giving that and the fact that it's used by the school heavily and all of the businesses that we're trying to push all of our employees to park and we want them to have ample parking.

1007
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:26,260
The underused lot is the fire street lot. And so we were trying to figure out a way that and we'll come later with possible fees and charges or whatever.

1008
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:33,220
When it comes to the whole new schedule, to be able to get them to go over there, because we still want that.

1009
01:30:33,580 --> 01:30:39,140
We just need to negotiate a better because the needs of the city and the uses of that lot of kind of...

1010
01:30:39,140 --> 01:30:43,980
It's evolved a little bit, so we can take the burden off of that and put it on the foul or street lot for those.

1011
01:30:43,980 --> 01:30:56,240
So we would essentially, for the overnight parking, we would still...

1012
01:30:56,240 --> 01:31:04,220
to the PDE to get a like permit to be able to go there.

1013
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:12,280
Yes. Would those lots exclude short-term parking?

1014
01:31:15,340 --> 01:31:16,020
No, no.

1015
01:31:17,900 --> 01:31:18,220
All right.

1016
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:25,500
And then one other question I have is that the

1017
01:31:27,480 --> 01:31:34,660
The within like a half a block of Main Street is when there's a lot of turnover.

1018
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:44,640
And I see that some of these streets on like when they're budding up against Main Street,

1019
01:31:45,060 --> 01:31:51,260
we said that there were going to be no changes.

1020
01:31:51,260 --> 01:31:59,540
I'm looking in particular to East and West Elm, where there were saying there are no changes, so what is it currently there?

1021
01:32:00,180 --> 01:32:12,380
Currently East Elm doesn't have a parking limit. West Elm, I believe it's short-term parking in that section three hours.

1022
01:32:12,380 --> 01:32:28,760
3 hours. And so is there a reason why we wouldn't change East Elm to kind of match instead

1023
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:37,760
of having this like patchwork where one street like oh there's no limit but the next one

1024
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,140
and it's three hours and so on and so forth.

1025
01:32:44,100 --> 01:32:46,840
We could change it, there are a lot of,

1026
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:48,180
the reason was the uses,

1027
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:52,800
there were a lot of hotels that have a lot of parking on site.

1028
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:56,920
The buses park on East Elm,

1029
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:58,200
on the street, right?

1030
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,140
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of buses on East Elm.

1031
01:33:01,420 --> 01:33:03,460
The park in the two, by those two hotels right there,

1032
01:33:03,540 --> 01:33:04,380
by Google Springs.

1033
01:33:05,740 --> 01:33:08,500
And so it would be difficult to make it short term, I think.

1034
01:33:08,500 --> 01:33:15,500
If you did three hour parking and they parked over night or all day, I don't know how you would, where they would move to.

1035
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:27,800
Part of the complaints that I've heard from people in town, it's mainly West Elm Street and Main Street.

1036
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:37,520
And I guess, well, I'm sorry for interrupting, but I had a complaint from a hotel owner

1037
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:48,020
on East Elm, which there is one to three motels in one block section of East Elm.

1038
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:55,520
And there is frequently almost every single day you see commercial vehicles, old buses,

1039
01:33:55,520 --> 01:34:04,220
part on the street, blocking sometimes, entrances to, I mean, one of these motels

1040
01:34:04,220 --> 01:34:17,520
is not more than one. So, I don't, I think we have to, we should look closely at East

1041
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:29,740
and whether we want this open parking 24-7, and if we run all out overnight, parking

1042
01:34:29,740 --> 01:34:37,760
there, then who, and then necessarily who, but just be cautious and ask these businesses,

1043
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:42,060
these motels, because they, he does affect their business.

1044
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:50,260
one of the buses are parking there because they're they're blocking it because there's no room there too many buses may be or wonder why

1045
01:34:50,260 --> 01:34:52,880
maybe there's no place to park a bus

1046
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:54,640
yeah

1047
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:07,020
Would there, I guess, yeah, when we were looking at this parking study, we were mainly looking at passenger vehicles, I guess one question.

1048
01:35:07,020 --> 01:35:09,560
And they're just parking, in the park?

1049
01:35:10,380 --> 01:35:22,320
I mean, is part of this, should we actually, like, direct these sorts of large buses to, to park at a particular location?

1050
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,800
Because I mean, they're obviously dropping people off and then driving somewhere, right?

1051
01:35:28,940 --> 01:35:37,840
And then necessarily buses, but like this construction commercial type vehicles that

1052
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:42,440
water tanks or some of the type of vehicles that they do park.

1053
01:35:42,940 --> 01:35:51,700
I guess the question for me is, do we have areas surrounding driveways with little red on both sides of the driveways?

1054
01:35:51,700 --> 01:35:52,500
to

1055
01:35:53,980 --> 01:36:01,140
So the curves are marked red on either side of the driveway so people are not I don't think there are many curves on on East

1056
01:36:01,140 --> 01:36:11,660
Tell me I guess the part the buses could park on the overnight parking lot that we're designated. No, yeah, yeah

1057
01:36:11,660 --> 01:36:14,660
Could we make yeah, I think that would be

1058
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:21,120
be good because I don't I don't I don't know that I mean necessarily won't buses like

1059
01:36:21,900 --> 01:36:29,120
blocking taking up all of the parking in a, because one bus will take up all the parking in a given street.

1060
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:39,270
I guess the question for me is, there's part of me that feels like we have to do this in pieces and I know pieces are terrible,

1061
01:36:39,470 --> 01:36:46,890
because it's nice to get it all done at once, but there are, if you saw in our comments, there were a couple of comments about

1062
01:36:46,890 --> 01:36:51,790
residential areas and RV's parking for months at a time and all of those pieces and so

1063
01:36:51,790 --> 01:37:00,430
I feel part of me feels like the east and west-LM issues are more part of that piece of this than the

1064
01:37:00,430 --> 01:37:09,570
commercial businesses piece and that maybe what we need to do is sort of look at it in a

1065
01:37:09,570 --> 01:37:11,150
a whole picture way.

1066
01:37:11,170 --> 01:37:12,230
Well, at least I can go ahead.

1067
01:37:12,250 --> 01:37:21,250
No, wasn't going to say that, but help the business owners first by pushing, you know,

1068
01:37:21,330 --> 01:37:25,030
doing that piece, getting the employees to where they are parking farther away and taking

1069
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:33,050
a little block or two walks of work, and then looking at big picture-wise at the residential

1070
01:37:33,050 --> 01:37:33,790
areas.

1071
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:40,860
I don't think any of the discussion that we had was on here has to do with the

1072
01:37:41,440 --> 01:37:47,320
With changing things on the residential area. Well, that's what I'm saying, but you're talking about you're talking about West Elm

1073
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,280
So at West Elm at Main Street at

1074
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:56,900
At Main that's not residential. That's the church and the

1075
01:37:56,900 --> 01:37:58,540
Motel department complex

1076
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:07,580
church the church on one side and the sorry I'm I had a long day

1077
01:38:07,580 --> 01:38:16,600
Okay, it's this next. You're talking about like dollar store street. Yeah, yeah, that's the long way of hell, Dorado bank. That's for us, bro. Oh, okay

1078
01:38:17,260 --> 01:38:21,060
I was like I was I was confused. I was like, I wasn't like

1079
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:30,520
Yeah, that's okay. Okay, yeah, but a long day. Yeah, so this is the Dollar Tree. Yeah, and that all right, and so some of that for me

1080
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:34,060
When I was looking at this future date stuff with businesses

1081
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:44,860
Some of that on Grove that you're talking about is how many cars Mr. K has out there in about and and same

1082
01:38:44,860 --> 01:38:54,280
And same and same with Rose Street right there's there's that place right there and a lot of those cars are cars that are sitting for extended periods of time

1083
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,320
And so that feels like something that that

1084
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:03,160
Yeah, I know off the top of my head how we deal with that as an issue because we don't want to impede their businesses

1085
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:07,100
but I hear you.

1086
01:39:07,100 --> 01:39:11,460
One other question that I have is,

1087
01:39:11,940 --> 01:39:18,100
where we are saying now, like three hours or less on all of these streets,

1088
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:26,320
like in particular, yeah, like pine and east pine and grow.

1089
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:27,860
West Grove,

1090
01:39:33,210 --> 01:39:44,090
how isn't that in direct conflict with a resolution that we had a little while

1091
01:39:44,090 --> 01:39:50,170
ago saying that food trucks don't need a permit to park in these areas?

1092
01:39:52,620 --> 01:39:53,780
Sort of.

1093
01:39:55,180 --> 01:39:59,920
And so we sort of in conflict that the food trucks have encroach me.

1094
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:09,460
Permit that allows them to have a little bit of different rules. Yes. Okay. And they come in and get those encroachment. Yes, sir. All right. Okay.

1095
01:40:11,060 --> 01:40:29,220
Okay. That clarifies my confusion. And so I think I think the this seems reasonable, especially because this is going to be like, I guess one other question I have is how are we going to deal with the

1096
01:40:29,220 --> 01:40:41,260
the complaints that have been brought up in the past, say around the BBC, the old Josephs

1097
01:40:43,460 --> 01:40:48,620
about the patrons of the movie theater taking up all of their parking.

1098
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:53,420
So that's part of why the resolution is written in such a way that says whatever it says,

1099
01:40:53,420 --> 01:40:56,380
I don't know if this parking lot is three hours or less or two hours or less, but there will

1100
01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:05,360
This resolution will allow us to then go in and not have to designate the whole parking lot as one or the other.

1101
01:41:05,580 --> 01:41:10,340
So there might be, right by the door of business, there's things are quick.

1102
01:41:10,980 --> 01:41:13,560
That might be a 30 minute parking or 24 minute parking zone.

1103
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:18,840
And then a few spaces down where someone might park and go to lunch might be a two hour zone.

1104
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,380
And where somebody might go to get there.

1105
01:41:21,380 --> 01:41:28,420
Um, hair done and need three hours or might be, so the, that lot in particular will contain

1106
01:41:28,420 --> 01:41:36,060
um, a variety of parking choices, and so that you can sort of, sort of, sort of, all of those folks in a direct way.

1107
01:41:36,500 --> 01:41:38,280
And it's flexible as businesses change.

1108
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:39,100
Yes.

1109
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:39,520
Yeah.

1110
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:41,040
It allows for flexibility.

1111
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:41,960
Yes.

1112
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:42,860
Yeah.

1113
01:41:43,700 --> 01:41:45,540
All right.

1114
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:46,520
I don't think you're right.

1115
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:47,700
You're making public comments.

1116
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:48,660
Yeah.

1117
01:41:48,660 --> 01:41:54,900
Yeah, I don't know, let's go.

1118
01:41:55,140 --> 01:41:56,320
All right, I don't see any.

1119
01:41:56,620 --> 01:41:58,920
All right, I'd like to make a motion to adopt

1120
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,100
the resolution established time parking zones

1121
01:42:01,100 --> 01:42:04,060
and permit parking zones pursuant to section 10, 28,

1122
01:42:04,260 --> 01:42:06,480
140 of the Bishop Municipal Code and direct staff

1123
01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:08,000
to implement the parking study.

1124
01:42:08,420 --> 01:42:11,200
Recommended recommendations identified by Exhibit A.

1125
01:42:11,820 --> 01:42:13,080
Take the note.

1126
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:14,700
Hey, Allison calls her up.

1127
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:16,700
Right, Council Member Kong.

1128
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:17,300
Yes.

1129
01:42:17,300 --> 01:42:24,720
Councilmember Garcia. Yes. Councilmember Schwartz. Yes. Yes. Mayor Protem Froint. Yes. Mayor Mojovie. Yes.

1130
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:32,820
The motion passes 5-0. Okay, next up, the Mending Resolution number 2026-05 to revise certain

1131
01:42:32,820 --> 01:42:39,940
commercial water and sewer classifications rates. Well, again, as you all know, we did

1132
01:42:39,940 --> 01:42:46,300
water rate study to increase the rates on water and sewer for our city residents that was long

1133
01:42:46,300 --> 01:42:53,480
overdo and hadn't been done a long time, we rolled those rate changes out, defective July

1134
01:42:53,480 --> 01:43:00,500
first, and in the rollout, the folks that were doing the data input and realized that there

1135
01:43:00,500 --> 01:43:03,880
were some corrections that needed to be made.

1136
01:43:04,300 --> 01:43:12,980
So this resolution changes a few things, probably not as many things as the public has

1137
01:43:12,980 --> 01:43:19,600
concerns about, but this is what we are able to change at this point based on our ability to

1138
01:43:20,260 --> 01:43:26,120
with the rate study and the two 18 hearing. So, this would move churches and meeting halls from

1139
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:32,740
category B to category A. Grocery stores that do not have any food prep in them or a need for a

1140
01:43:32,740 --> 01:43:38,000
gross grease trap would move from category B to category A and it eliminates the fee for closed

1141
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:38,760
businesses.

1142
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:45,740
Again, we've looked at this. We know you've heard the comments and thoughts about it

1143
01:43:45,740 --> 01:43:53,400
and in consultation with our legal team. These are the changes we are able to make at this time.

1144
01:43:55,800 --> 01:44:04,360
I guess one question I have is, does this address some of the concerns that got brought up to us

1145
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,380
about like a commercial building usage.

1146
01:44:08,260 --> 01:44:09,020
It does not.

1147
01:44:11,660 --> 01:44:19,200
We took an imperfect way of charging for these services

1148
01:44:20,220 --> 01:44:24,840
and adopted a different imperfect way of adopting a user.

1149
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:27,760
We knew it was going to be imperfect because we don't

1150
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:33,720
have meters to see how to have actual usage numbers.

1151
01:44:34,300 --> 01:44:58,740
So the prop to 18 materials indicates that we charge on a square-footage basis, and so there is no mechanism by which staff or the council without additional action that we don't know what that looks like at this point can make any changes.

1152
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:11,520
Even if somebody has a building that they're only using half of it, there's we don't have a mechanism to reduce their rates based on that because our metric was square footage.

1153
01:45:13,580 --> 01:45:14,740
I see.

1154
01:45:14,740 --> 01:45:23,260
But my understanding was that the prop to 18 was specifying an upper limit.

1155
01:45:23,300 --> 01:45:24,040
That is true.

1156
01:45:24,300 --> 01:45:33,800
An upper bound and so there is wiggle room there

1157
01:45:35,940 --> 01:45:37,600
implementing that.

1158
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:44,980
Well, there's wiggle room with regard to what the rates we charge, but there is we don't

1159
01:45:44,980 --> 01:45:49,480
have any way of checking the mechanism, right?

1160
01:45:49,660 --> 01:45:53,680
We don't have a way of saying, well, you only use half of your building,

1161
01:45:53,700 --> 01:45:55,200
so we're going to charge you half the rate.

1162
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:59,420
That is, that's not something we can do on a case by case basis.

1163
01:45:59,700 --> 01:46:01,740
And I can let Dean can certainly jump in here,

1164
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:05,980
because it is a very legal process.

1165
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:08,520
So, yeah, I was going to add some bumpers to this,

1166
01:46:09,460 --> 01:46:10,980
but Council Member Mojave, Urban Ayer Mojave,

1167
01:46:10,980 --> 01:46:12,440
went right into it.

1168
01:46:12,440 --> 01:46:16,760
We looked at this hearing that some of the complaints in some of the issues and we actually

1169
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:21,200
kind of surgically decided how much we could go and how far we could go.

1170
01:46:21,980 --> 01:46:26,980
The administrative changes is what I'm going to call what's proposed before you tonight is

1171
01:46:26,980 --> 01:46:32,640
not making any fundamental changes to the mechanism by which the rates are charged.

1172
01:46:33,180 --> 01:46:38,180
It's not increasing any of the rates that are charged or it's not reclassifying groups

1173
01:46:38,180 --> 01:46:40,860
so that it would result in it increase to those groups.

1174
01:46:40,860 --> 01:46:55,520
So that's about as far as administrative, you can go, but the actual mechanism by which you calculate the rates and certainly the rates themselves other than operating within the window that you know you have are the limits for this.

1175
01:46:56,100 --> 01:47:05,940
Now, if there's direction to the staff to maybe implement this and then bring back to the council a larger overview picture in terms of what the options would be.

1176
01:47:05,940 --> 01:47:12,500
That's a deeper legal discussion in terms of how far we get away from the 218 or the water rate study,

1177
01:47:12,980 --> 01:47:19,340
and how valid that is as we get out in time would give us the options that the sort of nuclear

1178
01:47:19,340 --> 01:47:27,300
options, if you will, in terms of blowing things up or completely re-vamping or modifying it on

1179
01:47:27,300 --> 01:47:32,720
the things that we need to do within the 218 context. We can bring that back. This is sort of the

1180
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:35,800
biggest bandage that we could put on the issues that we're identified?

1181
01:47:36,440 --> 01:47:37,000
Um,

1182
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:51,580
okay. Um, can, can I ask if, because, I mean, this in perfect system came about because we don't have any visibility until to water usage, right?

1183
01:47:54,400 --> 01:48:02,840
Is it the kind of thing that, instead of waiting five years and then trying to install

1184
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:10,360
water meters on everything that we could try to do something like that, which is a state

1185
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:14,700
requirement and everything that we could try to do something like that in a piecemeal fashion

1186
01:48:14,700 --> 01:48:39,340
and prioritize commercial businesses first and get, and then would we still have to go back to the 2018 process as meters get installed to make that more equitable.

1187
01:48:39,340 --> 01:48:44,100
You would, but it would be a fairly chaotic and almost unworkable

1188
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,580
ordinance to start charging

1189
01:48:48,220 --> 01:48:52,840
certain meters by this usage and by this mechanism and others

1190
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:59,600
Through another mechanism. There's nothing wrong with the city implement phasing implementation of water meters

1191
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:04,720
But the transition over to we're now going to base water rates on usage

1192
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:09,480
literally could just not be done in a okay we're gonna start with you 50 over here

1193
01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:14,520
I don't have a separate whole tax rate and process for you for a larger city

1194
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:21,000
It might be doable with a really complicated ordinance, but for bishop. I just don't think it would be manageable if it's legal

1195
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:24,620
Can I have a

1196
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:33,000
sample of what type of businesses we're actually talking about that will move from category B to a

1197
01:49:35,180 --> 01:49:41,360
It would just be churches and meeting halls and any grocery stores that do not prepare

1198
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:44,120
food and are not required to have a grease trap.

1199
01:49:44,620 --> 01:49:45,900
That's the main change.

1200
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:46,860
That's the only change.

1201
01:49:46,860 --> 01:49:47,640
There's only change.

1202
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,940
And not having a fee for closed businesses.

1203
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:58,860
Those are the only changes that we can implement without further exploration into the

1204
01:49:58,860 --> 01:49:59,600
2018 process.

1205
01:50:02,260 --> 01:50:03,780
Thank you.

1206
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:08,320
Any public comment?

1207
01:50:18,210 --> 01:50:32,210
Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'm Tyler. I live on the academy. And I think that these proposed changes are great, and they should be done. Thank you.

1208
01:50:32,210 --> 01:50:32,630
Okay.

1209
01:50:34,870 --> 01:50:45,670
So my comments, I mean, I like the changes, but I think that I'd like to personally go back and see how we can fix

1210
01:50:45,670 --> 01:50:53,550
just the sudden increases to the small businesses where you're talking to the lady that own the salon.

1211
01:50:54,990 --> 01:51:00,890
Like two and a half times increase for her probably with her fixed income customers,

1212
01:51:00,890 --> 01:51:05,610
where she's on a fixed revenue, it makes it incredibly difficult for her to run her business.

1213
01:51:06,390 --> 01:51:11,950
You know, I mean, in my, like I said, when we were rolling this all out, my personal water

1214
01:51:11,950 --> 01:51:19,030
billing sewer bill went up six and a half times. So we went from June, $165 a month to

1215
01:51:19,030 --> 01:51:25,670
July over $1100 a month. Like that's a punch in the face and I knew it was coming. So I mean,

1216
01:51:25,730 --> 01:51:29,530
see these people that weren't paying attention to it, they weren't looking at the notice,

1217
01:51:29,530 --> 01:51:34,510
is that weren't coming to the meetings and you know I mean I'm part of the group that's going

1218
01:51:34,510 --> 01:51:38,630
down because we don't have the prepared food like Bishop Beverage Center they don't even have

1219
01:51:38,630 --> 01:51:42,910
a public restroom and they don't use part of their square footage so I'm sure there's one

1220
01:51:42,910 --> 01:51:48,450
up like six and a half seven times as well so those are the ones that we're backing up but like

1221
01:51:48,450 --> 01:51:54,110
we had I thought we did a really good job when we were looking at the residential we looked at a

1222
01:51:54,110 --> 01:52:00,170
We took a lot of time making sure that we didn't impact the residential people, you know,

1223
01:52:00,290 --> 01:52:02,110
that's why we only went up 20 or 25%.

1224
01:52:02,770 --> 01:52:08,270
But when we're talking at 2x increase all the sudden for all the commercial businesses,

1225
01:52:08,630 --> 01:52:14,470
it really is a lot for all of the commercial businesses in town to try and deal with.

1226
01:52:14,830 --> 01:52:19,370
And I'm ashamed of myself that I didn't speak up more when we were all in through it.

1227
01:52:19,370 --> 01:52:26,870
I think like I just glossed over it as well. I didn't speak up enough when we were all in this out and I for one would like to go back and just revisit

1228
01:52:26,870 --> 01:52:37,190
If we need increases absolutely and I mean, I don't have a problem going from $165 to $500, but doing it in up from

1229
01:52:37,850 --> 01:52:43,110
Zero to a hundred miles an hour is tough on any business and the expenses are also high, right?

1230
01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:49,350
I mean, it's tough for any of us as expenses all go up. I think it's very revisited to some degree

1231
01:52:49,370 --> 01:52:57,690
I don't know if we just a pretty involved process, but I think, yeah, I mean, that makes sense to me that we should revisit it.

1232
01:52:57,690 --> 01:53:08,270
I'm not opposed to revisiting it, just because I think, yeah, we went from one system that wasn't great to another system that's not great.

1233
01:53:08,630 --> 01:53:15,170
But there are businesses out there that I've heard from that actually have lower costs.

1234
01:53:15,170 --> 01:53:30,170
Yeah, some of the restaurants, some of the restaurants because because you look at their tables versus their square foot right and so we just have to be mindful that as much as it's a messy system we got to we got to make sure that we're not, you know

1235
01:53:32,210 --> 01:53:40,470
We've already, excuse my language. We've already screwed over some people. So I want to go back and fix it so that we've we go and screw over the other people.

1236
01:53:40,470 --> 01:53:48,070
I think, well, yeah, but I think we can do that and be mindful of that because

1237
01:53:48,630 --> 01:53:55,590
I mean, when was the last time that these rates were ever changed 10 years ago and so, yeah,

1238
01:53:55,590 --> 01:54:06,130
I mean, I agree that like these changes within what we can do are fine and we should do them

1239
01:54:06,130 --> 01:54:19,130
And we should reconsider the commercial rates that we're set at a future time.

1240
01:54:19,850 --> 01:54:25,030
I mean, it shows how we're, it shows how weird the rates were and how bad these are.

1241
01:54:25,030 --> 01:54:36,130
Yeah, that if we're looking to write size, so to speak, the rates that business is saved money with the new rates like how bad were they'd be for

1242
01:54:36,130 --> 01:54:40,270
Right, you save money with the new rates. It just doesn't make any sense

1243
01:54:40,270 --> 01:54:45,270
I mean good for them. Somehow. I'm all for that

1244
01:54:46,370 --> 01:54:48,150
I want your tainted motion

1245
01:54:48,970 --> 01:54:50,810
I'll make a motion

1246
01:54:52,700 --> 01:54:55,680
Just say so move

1247
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:59,800
Some of the approval of our resolution.

1248
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:28,840
So we're looking for a job. Just a little bit more stability in that sense. And lastly, it also helps with recruitment and retention. I've hired a lot of city managers and a lot of city administrators, and sometimes it's really hard to recruit for a city administrator, because people experience know what they're coming into and they're coming into that limbo position, knowing that, you know, some of the people I'm supervising are going to be directly supervised by my boss. And so it does, it does actually open up when you're recruiting for that position.

1249
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:36,080
And many people will not apply for city administrator positions because they say, I won't do that if I can't run my team and the city.

1250
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:38,560
So with that, I'll submit to that.

1251
02:00:38,980 --> 02:00:41,560
Let me point this out lastly.

1252
02:00:43,180 --> 02:00:53,420
I've seen some written comments in terms of that this action by the council and tonight is just direction to bring it back to you with the appropriate resolutions and documents.

1253
02:00:53,420 --> 02:00:57,920
But I saw some writing suggesting that somehow this takes away from the voters.

1254
02:00:58,460 --> 02:01:04,280
The opportunity to put who they want to in office and they have the two have nothing to do with each other.

1255
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:08,540
There are five elected city council persons in this city and there's one elected city treasure.

1256
02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:18,720
This moving to a city manager form of government changes nothing to who the electives are appointed to the public.

1257
02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:28,880
And if the public is upset with the elected as who they've hired in their city administrator, then that's the way that conversation goes, and then we go backwards from there. So with with that I'll submit.

1258
02:01:29,900 --> 02:01:38,960
I guess to first I guess let's let's talk about council clarifying questions.

1259
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:44,640
Does anybody have any, any clarification, sir?

1260
02:01:44,900 --> 02:01:45,080
Nope.

1261
02:01:45,180 --> 02:01:46,400
I think you're explain that really well.

1262
02:01:48,180 --> 02:01:48,360
Okay.

1263
02:01:49,300 --> 02:01:50,660
Shall we hear from the public?

1264
02:01:53,770 --> 02:01:54,610
Any public comment?

1265
02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:05,140
Bishop's small for a reason.

1266
02:02:05,540 --> 02:02:10,920
And I'm glad that we're not like 80% of other cities.

1267
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:19,080
Man, Council, I'm Tyler Beatle, I ask you not to move forward with this change to the Council

1268
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:20,320
Manager form of government.

1269
02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:26,500
Right now, the elected Council appoints the city administrator and key officers.

1270
02:02:27,100 --> 02:02:31,900
This gives residents a direct line of accountability through the people they vote for.

1271
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:37,980
The proposed change would give an undelected city manager the power to hire and fire police

1272
02:02:37,980 --> 02:02:44,520
chief city clerk and most staff, the council will mainly only be able to fire the manager.

1273
02:02:47,300 --> 02:02:51,640
I believe that level of authority should stay with the elected officials, so the public

1274
02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:53,860
can hold decision-makers accountable.

1275
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:58,180
This idea was considered in 2019 and not adopted and for good reason.

1276
02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:05,140
Please keep this current structure that maintains a clear transparency and accountability

1277
02:03:05,140 --> 02:03:06,140
to the voters.

1278
02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:07,920
Thank you.

1279
02:03:11,980 --> 02:03:13,560
Council discussion?

1280
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:16,560
Oh, yeah.

1281
02:03:21,270 --> 02:03:24,150
Jeff Griffiths, Edward Streep.

1282
02:03:25,630 --> 02:03:34,390
I remember Rick Pucci explaining to me the difference between a manager, style of council

1283
02:03:34,390 --> 02:03:37,110
and administrator, style of council.

1284
02:03:37,110 --> 02:03:46,550
And Rick's point was, it's always functionally the same that if you're administrators really good, they're keeping everybody in line anyways.

1285
02:03:47,430 --> 02:04:00,910
But during my time, the reality is the person who has day-to-day interaction with those department heads is the head staff person you have in the city or the county.

1286
02:04:00,910 --> 02:04:07,910
And when you're expected to give a performance evaluation of department heads that you don't work with on a daily basis,

1287
02:04:11,430 --> 02:04:16,430
you don't give the most complete performance evaluation to those people.

1288
02:04:16,870 --> 02:04:20,730
You don't have the knowledge to be able to give them exactly what they need.

1289
02:04:20,730 --> 02:04:37,310
And then in cases where there's dissension amongst the ranks, you can have a department head who goes over the head of the city manager and appeals directly to the city council and it just messes everything up.

1290
02:04:37,510 --> 02:04:40,870
I think there's a reason that 95% of cities have gone to this.

1291
02:04:40,870 --> 02:04:45,090
I think we should have gone to this a long time ago and I support this change.

1292
02:04:45,650 --> 02:04:46,810
Thank you.

1293
02:04:46,810 --> 02:04:51,170
Jeff, can I ask you a question with your supervisor hat on?

1294
02:04:51,510 --> 02:04:51,570
Sure.

1295
02:04:51,810 --> 02:04:52,650
How does it work at the county?

1296
02:04:53,670 --> 02:04:55,910
So the county has administrator form of government.

1297
02:04:58,130 --> 02:04:59,610
Counties get a little bit more complicated.

1298
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:18,400
Just because you have elected Department heads and and then there's charter counties and there's so it does, it's not simple binary, but I was actually just talking with staff today how I wish we could move to more of a manager style.

1299
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:47,920
I believe Tomaro, I am giving performance evaluations to the environmental health director, and planning director, agricultural commissioner, and these are people like, you know, I work with these people on projects, I generally know what's going on, but I don't know the day-to-day interactions with their staff, are they complying with budget, you know, procedures,

1300
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:59,060
like all of the minutia that only dedicated manager administrator, head person, head staff person is going to do.

1301
02:06:00,420 --> 02:06:07,200
And so I think if any of us are good at our jobs, we're leaning heavily on that person anyways,

1302
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:12,780
but they're the people who are actually doing the supervision on a day-to-day basis.

1303
02:06:12,780 --> 02:06:22,460
And, like I say, if Pam isn't consulting you about whether somebody's doing a good job or whether somebody needs to be hired or fired,

1304
02:06:23,020 --> 02:06:29,580
like Pam could get fired, any second or fourth Monday, the month.

1305
02:06:31,120 --> 02:06:32,600
And she knows that.

1306
02:06:33,560 --> 02:06:39,240
And that's why she's in that position, but it's just good governance.

1307
02:06:40,160 --> 02:06:40,340
Thanks.

1308
02:06:40,340 --> 02:06:43,900
Thank you, um, council discussion.

1309
02:06:45,990 --> 02:07:11,450
I guess I'll start. Um, you know, I thought it was odd. I'll just say, you know, this is only my sixth year. Um, when I first got on, I thought, oh, I have to write this evaluation of our then fire chief. And I was like, okay, I don't know how he is doing right. I don't have people knocking on my door, telling me he's doing great. And I don't know how people knock on my door, telling me he's doing awful.

1310
02:07:12,150 --> 02:07:18,530
As far as I know, he could be coming in four hours of late every day and I would never know those things.

1311
02:07:20,130 --> 02:07:30,310
And as much as I'm a crazy control freak, I don't have the time with my job that pays the bills to be making sure he's clocking in on time.

1312
02:07:30,710 --> 02:07:40,570
And those kind of things that, and so for me, the idea that someone will be there knowing those things and can come to us and say, hey,

1313
02:07:40,570 --> 02:07:47,990
we got this issue, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then we could talk about it. I have no

1314
02:07:47,990 --> 02:07:53,690
question in my mind that no one will be, no one that we formally

1315
02:07:55,250 --> 02:08:01,130
supervised in that way, right, hired and fired would be fired without us all being

1316
02:08:01,130 --> 02:08:04,390
consulted about it. I don't question that at all.

1317
02:08:06,630 --> 02:08:08,210
So, so I think it's a good idea.

1318
02:08:10,260 --> 02:08:13,020
I think it's no brainer.

1319
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:20,260
I compared to hiring or having a bulldog, but we're removed the teeth.

1320
02:08:20,900 --> 02:08:22,840
So, you're a dog, you can bark, but you cannot bite.

1321
02:08:24,840 --> 02:08:28,600
I like the words that either Jeff or Dean used.

1322
02:08:28,740 --> 02:08:32,000
I mean, the city manager is the CEO.

1323
02:08:32,820 --> 02:08:35,640
You know, where the chair, people of the board, right?

1324
02:08:35,700 --> 02:08:39,400
We have controlling interest of whatever the company does, right?

1325
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:45,800
we want our CEO to control everything, right? I'm never going to be the systematic expert of

1326
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:52,880
said, you know, the public works, the police department, the fire department, you know, I can trip around

1327
02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:58,560
and screw things up, but I'm not going to see the day-to-day, we have our own lives and different

1328
02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:04,400
things that we have to do, right? From an accountability standpoint, we're going to hold the city manager

1329
02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:08,420
accountable, we're going to hold the fire chief, we're going to hold the police chief, we're going to hold

1330
02:09:08,420 --> 02:09:11,960
the Public Works Director accountable through our CEO.

1331
02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:13,700
That's our role.

1332
02:09:14,020 --> 02:09:17,240
Right up, you know, if you have the wrong person,

1333
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:18,440
then we hire the right person.

1334
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:20,960
That's our role as City Council people.

1335
02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:21,900
That's where I sit.

1336
02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:25,540
You know, I don't see it as a bad thing, you know,

1337
02:09:25,820 --> 02:09:27,460
Tyler and we've seen some comments

1338
02:09:27,460 --> 02:09:28,740
where people are worried about it.

1339
02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:30,280
There's absolutely nothing different.

1340
02:09:30,980 --> 02:09:32,380
Then there will be nothing different.

1341
02:09:32,860 --> 02:09:37,120
If we were to appoint Pam, who's the City Administrator,

1342
02:09:37,120 --> 02:09:41,860
today, city manager today, there would be nothing different for the public tomorrow than

1343
02:09:41,860 --> 02:09:48,040
there is today. Absolutely nothing. It's just the fear of the unknown, and that's what it is.

1344
02:09:48,180 --> 02:09:56,440
You know, when 460 plus cities are doing it one way, there's got to be something right with it.

1345
02:09:56,440 --> 02:09:59,980
that really does. Well, I think one thing the public doesn't know is

1346
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:07,980
Is that we're talking basically about changing how three people are managed and supervised.

1347
02:10:08,860 --> 02:10:18,100
That we don't have as a council anything to do with how the front office person does her job, but any age or anything else.

1348
02:10:18,180 --> 02:10:20,220
We're talking about three people.

1349
02:10:20,220 --> 02:10:27,160
Right. And somebody mentioned the city clerk like Pam controls the city clerk today.

1350
02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:30,380
It doesn't. There's no difference. We don't kind of.

1351
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:33,380
I see the city clerk. I don't know why everybody's not.

1352
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:40,440
So, but like, and then when you you're right, that does say city clerk.

1353
02:10:40,520 --> 02:10:44,400
And then then personally when I look also true of the city administrator.

1354
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:50,200
When I look at the speed of making a decision, if there was a really important decision that the city administrator would have.

1355
02:10:50,200 --> 02:10:56,540
to make, you know, the brown act states that, I mean, the city administrator couldn't send us an

1356
02:10:56,540 --> 02:11:00,820
email. They'd have to do it one on one or we'd have to have a special meeting. They couldn't

1357
02:11:00,820 --> 02:11:05,180
react to something quickly. Yeah. As a city manager, they could react to something more quickly.

1358
02:11:05,360 --> 02:11:11,840
They could make better decisions as it relates to the city. So to me, long story short, it's a

1359
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:17,840
good move. I think ultimately we are running like a city manager style government anyway. I mean,

1360
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:19,540
I meet regularly with Pam.

1361
02:11:19,700 --> 02:11:22,400
I don't meet regularly with police and fire

1362
02:11:22,400 --> 02:11:24,300
and public workstruct chiefs.

1363
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:29,940
I'm not really answering to the board.

1364
02:11:30,280 --> 02:11:34,060
They go to Pam when they need budget decisions

1365
02:11:34,060 --> 02:11:35,860
or personnel issues.

1366
02:11:36,060 --> 02:11:40,060
It's not like they're presenting to us regularly

1367
02:11:40,060 --> 02:11:43,840
as if they're, it's a separate board that we're managing.

1368
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:51,120
like with the board SDA that we're on, I can't imagine having the operations supervisors

1369
02:11:51,120 --> 02:12:01,880
reporting to us, you know, it would be silly. You typically the board manages the CEO,

1370
02:12:02,160 --> 02:12:09,320
they don't manage the whole executive team. And I don't think it's about a change in giving one

1371
02:12:09,320 --> 02:12:18,320
on more power. I think it's about creating the system that is going to allow the our employee,

1372
02:12:18,320 --> 02:12:27,140
one employee to do his or her work better, more efficiently, giving them the tools they need

1373
02:12:27,140 --> 02:12:33,740
to do their work the best. And then the resolution or ordinance that we make, you can

1374
02:12:35,080 --> 02:12:39,140
make it, however, whatever structure we feel is most comfortable.

1375
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:42,340
Oh, no, I'm sorry.

1376
02:12:43,540 --> 02:12:44,640
No, no, please.

1377
02:12:44,920 --> 02:12:45,680
I'm already talking twice.

1378
02:12:46,060 --> 02:12:46,380
Oh, no.

1379
02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:50,440
And this is coming about because like,

1380
02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:54,740
to, we like to talk about like,

1381
02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:58,240
people like to talk about like government waste and everything.

1382
02:12:58,780 --> 02:13:01,840
And I think one of the big sources of government waste

1383
02:13:01,840 --> 02:13:05,660
is like a lot of turn-on, turn-over.

1384
02:13:07,060 --> 02:13:12,420
And so unfortunately, like everybody in this position,

1385
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:14,200
we're essentially volunteers.

1386
02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:17,740
Like, we're not getting like giant paychecks.

1387
02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:20,520
That's why we all have other jobs to actually pay the bills

1388
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:22,320
as we're talking about.

1389
02:13:22,840 --> 02:13:26,820
And as Karen mentioned, yeah, we don't have regular check-ins

1390
02:13:26,820 --> 02:13:27,620
with the departments.

1391
02:13:27,620 --> 02:13:37,240
because we de facto end up like delegating a lot of that to our single point of contact,

1392
02:13:37,780 --> 02:13:47,580
which is, which is the current city administrator. And so often times what the recourse

1393
02:13:47,580 --> 02:13:56,300
we end up having with department heads is like, oh, we have a review and it's like, oh well,

1394
02:13:56,300 --> 02:14:20,140
Okay, they're not doing a good job, it's fire them because we're not in a position to do any sort of performance improvement plan or like actually try to when we see things going off in a wrong direction like steering it properly into the right direction because people here just don't have that sort of a bandwidth.

1395
02:14:20,140 --> 02:14:41,560
And when you end up in that position where our Boolean is like, okay, you're still employed or you're fired, that's just creates a lot of chaos and is not good for like streamlining and efficiency when it comes to running the city.

1396
02:14:41,560 --> 02:14:54,040
And so, in many ways, like, we have kind of been operating in a manager sort of position.

1397
02:14:54,480 --> 02:14:57,580
Like, a construct, it just hasn't been codified.

1398
02:14:57,580 --> 02:14:59,540
And...

1399
02:14:59,540 --> 02:14:59,980
And...

1400
02:15:00,660 --> 02:15:30,640
I fully trust that if our manager wouldn't be hiring or firing somebody that we aren't in support with, but I'm actually curious, is there a kind of a hybrid option where the council hires, is more involved in hearing,

1401
02:15:30,640 --> 02:15:40,400
has more of a say in the hiring of these main department heads, but it's explicitly clear that in the day to day,

1402
02:15:41,460 --> 02:15:46,540
they're just reporting to the city manager.

1403
02:15:47,960 --> 02:15:54,080
Of course, I mean, you could tell your city manager at that point that you would like to participate in the interview panel.

1404
02:15:54,080 --> 02:16:01,080
I mean, so we can't put y'all five at the one time, but it happens all the time. So yes, I mean,

1405
02:16:01,220 --> 02:16:05,080
input and hiring decisions that goes directly to her and she listens to that and take

1406
02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:08,340
he or she listens to that, takes that into account, makes their decisions. But yeah,

1407
02:16:08,460 --> 02:16:12,680
you could be, that would be a direct request to your manager that we would like to be involved.

1408
02:16:12,900 --> 02:16:14,560
And so she'll come up with the way to have it done.

1409
02:16:15,240 --> 02:16:20,160
Well, I think to Tyler's point, none of us, well, I can't speak for anyone. For me, none of this

1410
02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:26,580
about me shirking my responsibility to the to the constituents. Come and complain that I'll go

1411
02:16:26,580 --> 02:16:30,600
and complain to whoever I need to complain to. I mean, another that has changed, another that

1412
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:35,900
would change with this. I would still be as proactive as I am right now when things come to

1413
02:16:35,900 --> 02:16:41,960
me. It just would be that Pam might have more ways to help with that than she does now.

1414
02:16:43,080 --> 02:16:47,760
Yeah, exactly. So I think we do it. That's my direction.

1415
02:16:50,160 --> 02:17:03,180
Do I have other nodding heads, yes? Yes, it's nodding. Yes, that's all we need. We'll bring it back with the formal documents. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, move it on to future agenda items.

1416
02:17:04,620 --> 02:17:07,300
Let's start with Karen Schwartz.

1417
02:17:07,480 --> 02:17:08,620
I don't have any.

1418
02:17:09,560 --> 02:17:10,740
I don't have any.

1419
02:17:10,740 --> 02:17:11,240
I don't have any.

1420
02:17:11,380 --> 02:17:11,500
Jose.

1421
02:17:12,280 --> 02:17:12,560
Nothing.

1422
02:17:14,040 --> 02:17:17,680
Just the California State High School Radio Association.

1423
02:17:20,360 --> 02:17:26,440
That was going to be one of mine and then the other one that I have is since it's a new school year.

1424
02:17:27,160 --> 02:17:31,240
Will we actually be having a meeting with the students at it again?

1425
02:17:36,100 --> 02:17:36,120
Okay.

1426
02:17:36,600 --> 02:17:46,080
council and committee reports. Dennis. I got the official time for the hydrogen bus that's going to be coming this week on the 27th.

1427
02:17:46,260 --> 02:18:03,320
It will be in mammoth on the 27th from 8 to noon. If any of you are up there not down here, it will be at the Bishop office at the airport from 1 PM to 5 PM. So if you want to come down about 2 o'clock, it's going to take a short little ride. So if you're there too, you can hang out on the hydrogen bus.

1428
02:18:03,320 --> 02:18:11,440
I am lucky enough to be taking a trip to Reds Veto on the 28th at 9.30 in the morning on it, so that'll be kind of fun.

1429
02:18:13,580 --> 02:18:14,460
27th, 1 to 5.

1430
02:18:14,600 --> 02:18:15,840
The 27th, 1 to 5.

1431
02:18:15,940 --> 02:18:17,420
Don't they normally name their budget?

1432
02:18:18,980 --> 02:18:22,380
It's 1 to 5 is the information that Jared sent me.

1433
02:18:22,380 --> 02:18:22,560
Okay.

1434
02:18:23,020 --> 02:18:23,640
Yeah, it's 2 o'clock.

1435
02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:27,840
They're going to be taking off for a little trip today.

1436
02:18:28,160 --> 02:18:28,660
Just a little bit.

1437
02:18:29,180 --> 02:18:30,520
Does it has to name their budget?

1438
02:18:30,580 --> 02:18:31,520
This is just a loner.

1439
02:18:32,240 --> 02:18:36,180
This is just a test so we can take a look at it. This is not our budget.

1440
02:18:37,040 --> 02:18:38,000
The Hindi.

1441
02:18:38,360 --> 02:18:41,820
Don't my god. Don't go, don't go.

1442
02:18:41,940 --> 02:18:42,440
No, no.

1443
02:18:42,640 --> 02:18:43,580
No, no, let's not.

1444
02:18:43,580 --> 02:18:44,540
Oh, it's not.

1445
02:18:44,660 --> 02:18:46,160
Was it?

1446
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:48,500
A couple things.

1447
02:18:49,540 --> 02:18:53,660
I have been in conversations with Senator Omeriel Baraglio.

1448
02:18:55,700 --> 02:19:18,380
And Pam, I ask Nate and Pam and Ethan to put together some information on the projects that we have budgeted for this year, such as the 300,000 for the police department, this patch electrical resiliency or the upgrade we need to.

1449
02:19:18,380 --> 02:19:33,440
We also have a $125,000 for fire protection in locker room improvements in $75,000 from the city for public safety building, modernization and expansion planning.

1450
02:19:33,440 --> 02:19:44,540
So that it's about $500,000 and she has put a $500,000 911 upgrades request for this

1451
02:19:44,540 --> 02:19:52,000
gear estate budget and hopefully she can get it approved and we should hear from that very

1452
02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:52,580
soon.

1453
02:19:52,580 --> 02:19:59,980
So that's, it's huge because we had funded this $500,000 this year, but it would...

1454
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:09,360
We can get 500 from the state. I mean, there will be money for us and 500,000 dollars that we can use for something else.

1455
02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:20,220
So that's great news and more to come. Like I said, as soon as she knows if it is, if it has been approved, she will let us know.

1456
02:20:21,540 --> 02:20:28,200
She wanted me to thank you, Pam, for sending her that information and to share this news with all of us.

1457
02:20:28,200 --> 02:20:29,500
So that's green news.

1458
02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:30,560
That's great.

1459
02:20:31,960 --> 02:20:35,340
Are we traveling on Wednesday to Palmdale?

1460
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:39,220
I have a decimant and division meeting.

1461
02:20:39,560 --> 02:20:40,080
Yeah, exciting.

1462
02:20:42,400 --> 02:20:47,140
A decimant and division meeting before next month's conference.

1463
02:20:47,760 --> 02:20:50,160
And now we're reporting on that to next meeting.

1464
02:20:50,280 --> 02:20:55,020
Also, in that, it's being quiet as far as council meetings.

1465
02:20:58,520 --> 02:21:04,780
Like Jose said, super quiet next in the next few days and weeks, it will not be so quiet.

1466
02:21:05,080 --> 02:21:10,020
We have Eskog on Wednesday and Owen's Valley Groundwater Authority next week.

1467
02:21:12,400 --> 02:21:13,420
Yeah, it was very quiet, nothing.

1468
02:21:14,060 --> 02:21:15,520
Same here, it was pretty quiet.

1469
02:21:16,280 --> 02:21:21,400
And so with that, I will adjourn this meeting until Monday, September 14th, 206.