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[0:00] All right, I'm going to call to order this meeting of the Vice City Council at 531. Can we have a roll call please?
[0:09] Council member Com, council member Garcia, council member Schwarz, mayor, pro-time front, mayor Mojoubi.
[0:19] Thank you. All right, public comment prior to closed session, this time is set aside to receive public comment on matters agendas for closed session only. Do we have any members of the public who are speak?
[0:30] I don't see any so we will move into closed session today we have conference labor negotiators
[0:38] pursuant to government code 549577.6 let's go
[0:50] we're going downstairs
[1:13] recording in progress all right let me call to order this open session of the
[1:22] There's a city council meeting at 6 o'clock.
[1:26] We'll begin today with a moment of silence as the weather keeps changing.
[1:32] But as always, remember that we cannot change the circumstances, the seasons, or the wind.
[1:38] But we can change ourselves.
[1:40] And let's hope that that change involves growth.
[1:42] Please join me at a moment of silence.
[1:58] Thank you.
[2:01] Let's start off with our pledge of allegiance.
[2:04] Council Member Schwarz.
[2:08] I mean for the page of Allegiance, ready to get a plate for you.
[2:28] Allison, can we have a couple please?
[2:31] Councilmember Kong.
[2:33] Councilmember Garcia.
[2:35] Councilmember Schwartz.
[2:36] Mayor Pro Temfort.
[2:38] Mayor Mojovi.
[2:41] And public comment.
[2:43] Notice to the public this time is set aside to receive public comment on matters not calendar
[2:46] on due agenda.
[2:47] When recognized, please stay your name and address for the record.
[2:50] And please let me your comment two three minutes under California law.
[2:54] we can't act on anything that's not in the agenda, but we'll definitely listen and encourage
[3:01] everybody to be involved. We have a few cards. First one up here is Beth Deeton.
[3:12] Come on up.
[3:19] I am here on behalf of the Michael Busoodoo Campaign. I see Michael is on the agenda he unfortunately
[3:24] was not able to make it tonight, but he did send a person with a statement and that's me.
[3:28] I live on 1828, Senator Lane in Bishop.
[3:31] Michael Masuda is, you probably know,
[3:33] running for Congress in California's Fifth District
[3:35] that covers all of our part of 12 counties,
[3:38] including, of course, in York County and Monroe County.
[3:40] It's over 24,000 square miles, the size of West Virginia.
[3:43] So it's a huge district.
[3:45] And all across the district,
[3:46] we're dealing with many issues
[3:47] ranging from wild fibers, fire insurance,
[3:50] healthcare costs and access,
[3:52] strictly small businesses, and mainstream economies.
[3:55] A demand or good paying local jobs,
[3:57] and households that are struggling to make it in the pace of rising costs.
[4:01] Meanwhile, in DC, that's not really top of the agenda most of the time.
[4:05] And these issues aren't being addressed, and it shows up here in our communities.
[4:09] Many people, including the other generations, are losing faith in our democracy and our ability to address these issues.
[4:15] Michael is an engineer and not a politician.
[4:17] He has a problem solver focused on bringing people together in a very divided time, so that we can tackle the challenges that we have in common.
[4:23] Michael grew up in the northern end of the street, in a small town in Ebony County.
[4:28] He spent nearly a decade as an electrical engineer, with most of that time working
[4:31] into Finn's research, developing new technologies to keep our troops safe from drones and
[4:35] missiles.
[4:36] He then became foreign affairs officer at the State Department, where he uses engineering
[4:40] background to inform our leaders on science, technology, and foreign policy into issues.
[4:45] He's running for Congress because he has two small children, a few or four-year-old son,
[4:49] and it's your real daughter, and he wants to pass on a country that respects their rights, treats
[4:53] them fairly, and creates opportunities for them to work hard and build lives of their own.
[4:58] He believes that local problems...
[5:00] Problems require local solutions and should be led by local leaders, and that we need a partner in Congress to bring our voices to DC, and bring our taxpayer dollars home to help address our local challenges.
[5:09] Our voices are important, which is why they're my pseudo-for-hongers campaign, which I would like to invite you to the moment of the area in the coming week.
[5:17] There's a couple of them, kind of the meat of why I'm standing up here.
[5:19] He is having a town hall, Thursday, September 3rd, 6 to 8 p.m. at the Bishop Senior Center
[5:26] on 6.82th Street. There will be refreshments and everyone invited to come and join in
[5:34] on the conversation. He will also, in a less formal capacity, be at the picnic with purpose
[5:41] the evening before, that's September 2nd, 530 to 730 p.m. that's just down at the Bishop's
[5:46] park, so super chill time to talk to them a little less formally. You can learn more about Michael,
[5:53] his positions, and upcoming events, including townhold details at the campaign so website,
[5:57] vote Masuda.com.com. So thank you for your time. Hope you see everyone at some upcoming
[6:02] events. Thank you. Next up, we have Joel Church,
[6:11] National Director of the California High School
[6:12] Right here.
[6:14] Hey.
[6:23] Good evening.
[6:24] My name is Joel Church, and I am the National Director, and I am here on behalf of California
[6:29] High School Radio.
[6:30] I want to thank City of Bishop for the support you have given us as state finals over
[6:35] the years.
[6:35] I think it came here in 05.
[6:40] Each year more than 300 rodeo contestants throughout California come to Bishop to our
[6:44] state finals.
[6:45] includes parents, siblings, the directors, the volunteers, and a significant number of people
[6:52] spending nearly a week here in Bishop.
[6:56] The reason I'm here tonight is that in recent changes to different entities into the community,
[7:01] including for our grounds and other things, the bills associated with holding our finals
[7:06] has increased tremendously.
[7:09] We understand that the costs are increasing everywhere and we certainly recognize that the
[7:16] background has expensive as its own. However, the size of the increases have created a
[7:22] financial challenge to our organization. We are a youth organization. We need to be mindful
[7:29] of what we ask our families to pay. Most travel hundreds of miles to be. To be here,
[7:36] willing horses and to express and the expenses of spending a week in Bishop.
[7:43] That is why I'm here asking the city of Bishop to consider increasing the financial
[7:48] contribution to CHSRA to offset these increases.
[7:54] No, no, last year we didn't ask for a contribution that was our fault.
[8:02] That comes in the increase we believe is an investment that comes back into the Bishop community.
[8:09] Funding helps to keep the finals here while the contestants and their family support Bishop businesses throughout their stay.
[8:20] We want to be in Bishop.
[8:22] We want to remain in Bishop.
[8:24] We want to call Bishop the home of the CHSRA, the California High School of Rodeo Association Finals.
[8:30] We value our relationship here. Thank you for your sport and for welcome our rodeo family's year after year and for your consideration for additional funding.
[8:41] Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for all you do.
[8:51] Basic text.
[8:59] I know Justin.
[9:01] Come along.
[9:05] Are you both going to keep a tonter three minutes together?
[9:07] Thank you.
[9:10] All right.
[9:12] I brought him along.
[9:15] Oh, I out this time.
[9:16] So in 2005, we were lucky enough to get the rodeo here.
[9:22] It was quite a milestone.
[9:24] My whole family was on the board.
[9:27] We had so many people here helping us and getting us here.
[9:31] and it's just multitude of money from the get-go. Last or this year over a million dollars,
[9:41] I you can check your tax rolls to the community in 10 days. And that one week,
[9:50] we do better than we do any other time of the season. And it's detrimental to try and keep them here.
[10:00] After all the construction, I had construction from January till June.
[10:06] Justin's had it from...
[10:09] I couldn't even believe it.
[10:10] I didn't even believe it.
[10:13] At one point it was on both sides where people had to go down all the way past Looney being turned left
[10:19] and then come down beautiful Warden Street.
[10:23] So, it's hard to get there, I don't know.
[10:25] It is. It's been a nightmare to at least. And we're just hoping that a contract can, you know, be processed and considered for next year. And that the city of Bishop will work with us. I think Joel has the cost of the ambience, the generators. And what was the other one. Three.
[10:50] please
[10:57] submit as yeah just so you have an idea if you have any questions
[11:01] Kerry has has Joel's information that those three were were massive to the
[11:11] association and you know the communities wonderful I mean they help with the
[11:17] buckles and everything and volunteers and people helping and but we need the
[11:23] business. So we're hoping that the city of Bishop will work with CHSRA. Both members
[11:30] old alumni.
[11:32] Well, that's been here more than half my life. Thanks. Yeah, I love it. Thank you.
[11:36] You know, thank you. Of course. Jessica Thanks.
[11:43] I'm Jessica Tech. My address is 1449 Cherry Tree Circle Bishop. I'm just here to support
[11:49] high school rodeo. My daughter high school rodeo as we love to see the finals here in
[11:54] shop and all of the support from our community and all of the people coming in to support
[11:59] high school radio. So we'd ask if you guys would continue to support that.
[12:03] For sure. Thank you.
[12:08] Next up, Rick Klug.
[12:18] Thank you Mr. Mayor and council members. Yeah, I live on rocking W.
[12:22] I usually don't remember to say that. And I'm just glad to be here. I mean, I got a lot
[12:26] of things on your agenda that is like, oh, I'd love to engage in conversation, but I tell
[12:30] stories. We don't have time for that. So, I don't have time for that. You don't have
[12:35] time for that. I don't have time for that. I would just like to pray over you if I
[12:39] may. Anyone who's willing, join me. Father, we just come before you and there's a
[12:44] lot on the agenda. There's good stuff. There's stuff that we might disagree
[12:49] about thinking about the high school rodeo and all of the businesses and what they've
[12:53] endured through the construction. Just Lord, thank you that we can do this together
[12:58] in a small community. We can differ and still respect each other, treat each other with respect
[13:04] in a small community. We just pray, Lord, for your grace, your hand on us, pray that you would
[13:10] give wisdom to our leaders, the City Council, the administrator, and the Department had grace
[13:19] and wisdom, ability to work with people, and that our people, Lord, we would come across with
[13:25] grace and wisdom ourselves for the good of this community and so yes we pray that before
[13:31] you with thankful hearts that we can we can even live here such a good thing and we
[13:37] pray this in Jesus name amen thank you. Thanks for it. Next public comment card is
[13:46] I can't gong for the Annual County Office of Ed.
[13:51] I'm going to do this correctly and give these to you.
[13:54] Thank you, too.
[13:58] Hi.
[13:59] Three minutes.
[14:00] Okay.
[14:00] Where do you live?
[14:01] I live on George Street.
[14:04] But I'm here in my Annual County Office of Education capacity.
[14:08] And I want to make sure that everyone in the community knows that for the last six months,
[14:13] Our Superintendent Barry Simpson and the Juvenile Justice Commission have given myself and my wonderful co-workers Serena.
[14:22] Money to create what we have decided to call the Community Compass.
[14:26] It is for families with children and grandparents with children and what it does is two things.
[14:34] First, we have categories of services and resources that everyone can use categories like utilities, food and thank you.
[14:47] It's because we've got our meetings.
[14:49] Dental and physical and mental health, utilities, a bunch of other things, and we have them all, all of the resources we've literally spent the last.
[15:00] Six months scouring and talking to people and holding meetings to get all of the resources with the correct phone numbers and the correct people as of today.
[15:08] Honnie, each one of the resources and people can just click on it and find what they need and whatever category they need.
[15:16] All of the schools by the end of this week will have the link on their school websites as well, so that for parents and families they can access it easily.
[15:27] The other part of this website is an up-to-date events calendar for, again, parents and families are our group.
[15:36] For example, our calendar has all of Amaka's food distribution days and times.
[15:41] It has county free library stuff. It has all of the things that are free.
[15:46] And then we have flyers that we upload.
[15:50] So, we have right now we have fall events, we had summer activities with all the pool hours and all the things that come with that as well.
[15:59] So, we hope you look at it, we really work on it.
[16:02] Please call me if there's you find a mistake, because that's what we're going to continue to do the whole time is make sure we have updated people and zone numbers and stuff.
[16:11] We've made it so that hopefully people can find the resources they need by just two clicks once they get on the website.
[16:17] So we have really great drop down menus with all the resources.
[16:22] So I hope you like it.
[16:24] Thanks.
[16:27] That's the end of my cards.
[16:29] Anybody else in the public wish to speak on matters not calendar on the agenda?
[16:37] I'm sure we'll have a future agenda on the California High School of Radio Association.
[16:45] Yeah. We will now move on to report on actions taken in closed session as required by law.
[16:52] No reportable action was taken.
[16:57] And so we'll move on to proclamations.
[17:00] We have three proclamations today.
[17:04] Our first one is Longa Radoo honoring the life and service of Judd Allen Simons.
[17:10] Um, who's going to be receiving this proclamation on his behalf?
[17:20] Do you want to come up?
[17:25] No, you don't.
[17:31] This proclamation is honoring the life and service of Judge Allen Simmons.
[17:37] Simon, sorry.
[17:39] Whereas Judge Allen Simmons was raised in Bishop,
[17:43] and the Oman's Valley began serving his community as a teenage sheriff,
[17:46] cadet earned his emergency medical technician certification before age 18 and later completed
[17:53] Stanford's paramedic training program and.
[17:57] Whereas Judre turned home to bishop in 1989 and together with his father established Simon's
[18:04] emergency specialties later Simon's ambulance providing dedicated emergency medical services throughout
[18:11] Oh, and Sally for approximately 35 years.
[18:15] And we're as on their job leadership, Simon Sandblanc is
[18:19] strengthening local emergency response and donated thousands
[18:23] of hours to medical standby service at full-ball games,
[18:27] rodeos, parades, and other local events in.
[18:30] Whereas Jed taught local emergency medical technician classes,
[18:34] mentored generations of first responders,
[18:36] and continued his calling as a flight medic, ground medic, and mentor with Sierra
[18:42] Life Light, until his passing on June 28th, 2026, whereas Judd was a devoted husband and
[18:50] father who's skill, compassion, steadiness, under pressure, and selfless service, touch
[18:56] countless lives, and left an enduring legacy throughout Bishop and the Owens Valley.
[19:01] Now, therefore, in recognition of his extraordinary dedication and service, the Bishop City Council
[19:07] honors the life and legacy of Judd Allen Simons and extends its deepest condolences to his family,
[19:14] friends, colleagues, and all those whose lives he touched. In witness where I have,
[19:20] I Stephen Movi, mayor of the City of Bishop, California, have here on to semi-hand and
[19:25] caused the seal of the city of Bishop EFX on this 24th day, August 26th.
[19:32] Thank you. This would mean a lot to you, Ed.
[19:36] He just lived to serve as community hand.
[19:39] This was an honor for him.
[19:40] Ann Ripley and was an inspiration.
[20:24] Next up, we have another proclamation,
[20:31] because this is loading. Recognizing September is national recovery months.
[20:37] Do we have, who is this requested by crossroads? Crossroads? Do we have a representative from crossroads here?
[20:45] We
[20:52] just have a small group here.
[20:57] This is a platform too, we recognize a lot of what you're doing, but this is a platform
[21:04] to let the public know of what you guys up and up do.
[21:11] Anyone?
[21:13] I can share.
[21:15] You can share?
[21:16] You can share?
[21:20] Everyone's always talking and everyone's quiet.
[21:24] We've been up to quite a bit, we've been doing recovery housing, we've been giving support
[21:29] to people who've been criminally just as involved, we've been helping people in immediate
[21:34] crisis response and being able to show it for our community and kind of meet those needs
[21:38] for them right here in our town and so super proud of the work that's being done in honor to just
[21:45] stand with people that are up here and you know, to let people know that recovery is a beautiful
[21:50] thing, it's a beautiful process and that people do recover and I'm glad that we can all be
[21:56] part of that together and I don't know if Maria would like to share a few words to.
[22:02] Hi, my name is Maria Fierro. I am the Substance Abuse Cancer for Crossroads and I've worked in many
[22:08] places for many years and this is like the first time I have literally seen the whole person care
[22:16] method and how it works, but there's more to it if the culture that's involved in the way
[22:23] that they help the people, the people seem to be more willing and open, and willing to
[22:28] try new strategic methods of how to stay sober and have a successful life.
[22:36] Hi, my name is Eric. I currently live at the Silver Living House that Crossroads provides for
[22:42] community and I'm I'm not sober this week and nine months ago I was and nine months ago
[22:52] I was I was hopeless and I really didn't have any more to go and crossroads reached
[22:57] shatter hand for me and provided me a safe place to grow and really have a place to move
[23:04] in recovery and develop a program that really is allowing me to move back into the community
[23:09] in a really positive way.
[23:11] Thank you.
[23:19] Good.
[23:20] No one has to.
[23:21] Nobody has.
[23:24] We're definitely appreciative of all you are doing.
[23:31] It's a struggle going through every day.
[23:35] It's admirable that all of those who are recovering,
[23:39] like we're taking that that harder but more fruitful step because since they're not gonna say it
[23:48] um very extremely proud of each and every one of these men up here and the women that we have in
[23:53] our program because they are the ones who show up and they put the hard work in and they make the
[23:58] effort and they make all that happen in their accountable responsible and their amazing group of people
[24:04] and so I just want to acknowledge that especially for recovery month and they show up and
[24:09] volunteer and they give back to the community in ways that people have no idea that they're
[24:13] even doing. And so I'm really proud of all the hard work and that they made the choice to
[24:17] make those changes. So I just want to let you guys know that
[24:23] already. This proclamation is for
[24:26] National Recovery Month, which is September 2026, whereas National Recovery Month promotes awareness
[24:34] of substance use and mental health recovery and celebrates the millions of Americans who
[24:39] demonstrate that recovery is possible and
[24:42] whereas the city of Bishop believes every individual deserves the opportunity to live a healthy,
[24:47] meaningful and hopeful life and
[24:50] whereas we honor the courage and resilience of individuals in recovery and recognize their
[24:55] families, peers, health professionals, travel communities.
[25:00] Fake communities, employers, educators, first responders and organizations that support them in.
[25:07] Whereas access to compassionate, person-centered trauma-informed and culturally responsive prevention, treatment, and recovery services helps individuals and families heal and thrive.
[25:20] And whereas promoting understanding, reducing stigma and strengthening community support creates pathways to long-term recovery and reminds those facing substance use or mental health challenges that they are not alone.
[25:35] Now, therefore, in recognition of the courage of individuals in recovery and the contributions of those who support them.
[25:42] The Bishop City Council recognizes September 2026 as National Recovery Month and encourages residents,
[25:49] businesses, schools, and community organizations to support recovery, extend compassion,
[25:55] and celebrate the hope and healing that recovery brings. In witness where I've,
[25:59] I Stephen Mojove, you may have the City of Bishop California. Have your on to set my hand and
[26:03] us the Seal of the City of Bishop to be a fix this 24 days August 2026.
[26:46] Thank you guys for all your hard work and thank you keep it up.
[26:50] Thank you very much.
[26:51] Yeah.
[27:00] All right, we have one more proclamation recognizing August 31st as International Overdose Awareness Day in the City of Bishop.
[27:11] Assuming this is, again, from you guys, across for it.
[27:16] All right, this proclamation as Steven Jussette is for International Overdose Awareness Day, which is August 31st, 2026, whereas International Overdose Awareness Day is observed annually on August 31st,
[27:30] First, to remember those whose lives have been lost to overdose, support those who
[27:35] grieve and inspire action to prevent future deaths and...
[27:39] Whereas, every life lost to overdose is a profound tragedy affecting families, friends,
[27:46] and communities.
[27:47] And every person lost, deserves to be remembered with dignity and...
[27:51] Whereas, other those days are preventable.
[27:54] An education, early intervention, harm reduction, treatment, recovery support, and
[28:00] access to live-saving medication such as Nalaxon can save lives in.
[28:06] Whereas addressing substance use requires cooperation among health care providers, schools,
[28:12] public safety agencies, tribal communities, community organizations, families, and individual
[28:17] with lived experiences guided by compassion rather than stigma.
[28:23] And whereas the City of Bishop supports prevention and education for youth, access to
[28:28] saving resources and services that help individuals and families affected by substance use.
[28:35] Now, therefore, in remembrance of those whose lives have been lost and in support of those affected by the substance use,
[28:42] the Bishop City Council recognizes August 31st, 2026 as international overdose awareness aid
[28:48] and calls upon the community to support those who are struggling or in recovery and work together to prevent future overdose deaths.
[28:56] And witness where I've, I Stephen Mahovie, Mayor of the City of Bishop, have here on two
[29:00] set my hand in the field of City of Bishop to be a fix. This 24th day of August 2026.
[29:27] All right, moving on to Department of Head of Repyreds. We'll begin today with Fire Chief Brett Russell.
[29:32] Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Members of Council and Members of the Public couple of things to
[29:38] go over tonight. First and foremost, I want to get a huge shout out to the Public Works Department
[29:43] for all the hard work they're doing out there online street. They're out there putting in
[29:48] extremely hard work during the PQ hours of the day. Couple events. The database coming up on
[29:55] September 6th and our folks are really ramping this.
[30:00] There's a lot going on behind the scenes that they're setting up for, so I highly suggest and recommend you guys come out.
[30:06] Second to that is the 911 stair climb, and that'll take place, obviously, on 911.
[30:13] If you come by the fire station and have questions about either of those events, we have flyers and QR codes that can map everything out for you, so please feel free to come by.
[30:22] There's been quite a few questions specific to ISO, which is insurance service office, and the website currently is very risk.
[30:33] VER, ISK, we've had a lot of questions within the organization and a handful of questions to the commissioners about insurance rates going up, insurance getting canceled, et cetera.
[30:45] etc. After lots of pressing numbers, I finally got a hold of a human today and was able to get some
[30:52] clarification on where the Bishop Fire Department stands. And so the room knows it's a class
[30:59] 1 through a class 10, class 1 being the best. The city has a class 4, the rural area has a class 5,
[31:07] and it was a 59.444, so it was almost a class 4 for both the city and the rural.
[31:14] There's been a few things that we've done internally that we have a good chance of getting it to be a four in the city and in the rural area.
[31:21] There's some things that we need to provide to them as far as additional apparatus that we have purchased within recent months and years.
[31:28] And there's some things that the commission has done reaching out to the water districts to provide data that they actually do flow test and maintain their hydrants.
[31:38] And if I so was willing, there's a very good chance that we could have a double four,
[31:42] which is a huge thing for a department like ours.
[31:44] It was a lot of work that this organization put in to actually get it to actually be a four
[31:48] and a five within the city and the rural area.
[31:51] And if we can get it to a double four, that's definitely going to be the goal.
[31:54] But I do want to make it very clear that even if we had a class two rating,
[31:58] this is per them.
[31:59] It is still up to that individual adjuster to either up the price of insurance
[32:04] or cancel the insurance altogether.
[32:06] It does not have anything to do with the fire department,
[32:09] it doesn't have anything to do with us.
[32:10] We can do everything that we can within our organization,
[32:14] but it is not a reflection of the fire department.
[32:16] It's up to those gestures to actually either cancel or
[32:20] up the price or actually insure anybody.
[32:23] There's been a lot of talk about that.
[32:24] There's any questions from the public, specific to ISO and insurance.
[32:29] Council on the questions.
[32:32] I do.
[32:34] Chief, would it help with these questions and to educate the public if we were to
[32:42] provide some information about the recently approved Sun Zero?
[32:48] What?
[32:49] Sun Zero?
[32:52] The defensible space around homes?
[32:55] I think that would help their chances of maintaining insurance, but it's not guaranteed
[32:59] it's up to the adjuster.
[33:01] Correct, but, I mean, this is so recent, recently approved by the state that it will help everybody in our community to be informed.
[33:14] Yeah, I can't disagree with that.
[33:17] So I hope maybe because it's related to fire.
[33:20] And Sun Zero. So what in the world is Sun Zero?
[33:23] It's not grand zero.
[33:26] How far you set out new standards and the
[33:29] fanciful spaces around homes, especially?
[33:33] We're talking about home insurance.
[33:37] They are depending on where you live.
[33:41] Within zero to five feet, they should be nothing combustible.
[33:46] No plans, no wood fences, nothing.
[33:50] Within five to ten feet,
[33:51] they have other options, then to 20 feet I believe or to 100 feet for rural areas which we are in a rural area.
[34:03] So maybe share with the public what some zero actually means and what can we do to make our homes fire resistance.
[34:13] I would highly recommend going to the calfar website and getting a flyer so that you have all the specifics.
[34:18] I'm not familiar with that term, I've never heard it before.
[34:22] But yeah, the being a FireWise community helps everything you can do absolutely helps in the
[34:28] event of a wildfire.
[34:29] If you just go to Google and so it's called FireWise on Zero, you'll get all that information.
[34:35] Yeah, there was a new draft that was released this month on Zone Zero, and that's what is being referred to.
[34:46] Anything else, Chief?
[34:47] Last but not least, as always, huge thank you.
[34:51] and nothing but respect to our volunteers and paid staff for
[34:55] continuously going above and beyond the call of duty.
[34:58] That's all I got.
[35:00] That's all you appreciate it. Any other questions? No. All right. Please chief, Nater.
[35:07] Thank you, Mayor. Council member, members of the public. I just a quick update on what's we're working with on the police department side.
[35:14] One of our main projects is obviously working on the unfunded mandated emergency medical dispatch that has to be in place by January 1.
[35:22] Um, we're working out the logistics on that.
[35:24] We have some very promising, uh, prospects to hopefully get that set up in the next couple
[35:30] months.
[35:30] So we can kind of work it out with the trial and error process before we actually have to
[35:35] fully implement it in January.
[35:37] We'll come for you with, uh, actual propositions in the next couple of council meetings once
[35:44] we get all of our figures together.
[35:46] Um, but we are, it is on the top of our priority list and we're working forward to that.
[35:51] We've also been working with the consultant to work on the start of our electrical upgrade that was
[35:56] approved in this fiscal year for the police department primarily our dispatch center so we can be more resilient and
[36:03] provide a constant redundant service for our community along with working with the
[36:10] the 911 Commission in CaloES on our complaint to the 911 Commission for our lack of redundancy in our 911
[36:18] system. It's not just for us, but it's, you know, county,
[36:21] mono county across the board. We're going to different options. Obviously, we're
[36:25] limited because we're at, but working with them, we did follow a formal
[36:29] complaint several months ago, and that's actually started to get the ball rolling.
[36:33] So that's helpful. Also working on quotes. We still don't have all of the men
[36:40] for more of a closed circuit camera network system to replace the flux system that's
[36:47] cancelled. It should all be removed shortly and getting our two new patrol vehicles.
[36:57] There you guys approved for this fiscal year. We've received them today. We still need
[37:01] a wait for our outfitting equipment. That's kind of been slow to get the stuff here, but
[37:06] there should be up and running in the next couple months. Once we get the stuff and install
[37:10] so hopefully by the end of next month we'll have those two new ones up and then we'll be
[37:16] Yes. Otherwise, I'd feel like I have any questions in the end of my report. Any questions
[37:23] for a tutor? I have a couple. Are you guys participating in this, in the sheriff's
[37:29] putting on the National Light Out and in all of October, in the group on this year?
[37:35] Oh, big fun. Oh, big fun. Sorry. That's not going to matter right now. I just didn't read
[37:39] it thoroughly. Yeah. They put out a flyer today. So that's why I was wondering. And then
[37:45] How is the Court of Code enforcement person coming along?
[37:50] Code enforcement?
[37:51] Where are you talking about?
[37:52] Parking and enforcement.
[37:55] Sorry, yeah.
[37:56] Parking and forth and forth and forth and forth and forth and forth.
[37:58] We're flying in that position.
[37:59] Like I said, we've had some little bit of issues with filling the job.
[38:03] It's hard to get someone part time to get through a whole law enforcement background.
[38:06] But it's mandated.
[38:08] We did do some other.
[38:09] I was doing my use, just to be able to start stuff off like a tattoo before and we're getting our personnel involved.
[38:15] We also purchased some electronic equipment that a reduce cost of a person so that we can go out and we can make
[38:24] be more efficient at doing it so we can be out and our patrol guys can do it.
[38:29] It's just that don't want always patrol guys doing it because they're a high cost and so cost effectiveness of what they're doing with their time.
[38:36] But if we're the meantime, we are using work working on using auxiliary stuff to be able to do a parking enforcement
[38:42] Because we have started the enforcement already so then we want to continue to at least keep it going in the meantime while we can get
[38:50] personnel
[38:51] Equipped to be able to do so
[38:53] Right, thanks
[38:56] Anything
[38:58] All right, thanks chief
[39:02] And
[39:02] Administration and city administrator Pam Fossard
[39:07] I just want to, you know, we often take time to thank the people who are doing the work for the city that are out in the public, and we're certainly grateful for them, but we are starting our annual audit, which makes me think about thanking all those people who help us run the business of running the city, the folks that pay the bills and run the finances, and so there's a, there's a team in the, in the, in the room next door, they'll be here for a few weeks, they're going to check all our things, make sure we're being good stewards of the,
[39:35] public's money and we're grateful for them and for the staff that helped them do that.
[39:41] In the theme of continuing, of doing a good job of running the business of the city,
[39:46] we're currently restructuring and having some pretty helpful and promising conversations
[39:53] on the reception of the community services department, and we'll be rolling those changes out soon.
[39:58] And I'm happy to report that
[40:00] And we're a gumino, our public works director, is back to work. She's in the office relatively regularly these days.
[40:08] And we're happy to have her back after her time out. And we're grateful that she's able to rejoin us. So thank you.
[40:18] Any questions for him? No. All right. Thanks.
[40:23] Move it on to consent calendar. Notice, so the public all matters under consent, consider routine by the city and we'll be acted on by one motion.
[40:30] Do we have any council discussion on consent?
[40:35] No, no.
[40:36] Any public comment on consent?
[40:43] I see none.
[40:44] Well make a motion.
[40:46] What's the second it?
[40:47] All right.
[40:48] We have a motion a second.
[40:49] Call for the vote.
[40:52] Council member Kong?
[40:53] Yes.
[40:54] Council member Garcia?
[40:55] Yes.
[40:55] Council member shorts?
[40:57] Mayor Pro Temfreight?
[40:58] Yes.
[40:59] Yes.
[41:00] The motion passes 50.
[41:02] All right.
[41:03] On to new business, our first item is a League of California City's resolution.
[41:15] Each year, as part of the Cal City's annual meeting, resolutions that guide the
[41:18] league's legislative efforts or governance are considered, at this year's annual conference,
[41:23] only one resolution will be presented to Cal City's members for consideration.
[41:27] Council Member Garcia will be attending the schedule's Cal City's General Assembly meeting
[41:31] and as registered as the City of Bishop's voting delegate.
[41:34] Council Member Freyne and Council Member Kong will also be attending the scheduled Cal Cities Annual Conference,
[41:40] and are listed as the City of Bishop's alternate voting delegates.
[41:44] Should Council Member Garcia be unable to serve as the city's voting delegate?
[41:49] We are asking the Council's direction to guide the city's voting delegate and alternate voting delegates,
[41:53] in voting on resolution number one, calling for a working group to consider a state constitutional amendment
[41:59] or other form of initiative to ensure final local authority over housing and land use
[42:04] decisions submitted by the City of Mariaeta.
[42:09] This resolution calls upon CalCities to convene a working group to evaluate the feasibility
[42:14] and potential framework of a state constitutional amendment or other statewide initiative
[42:19] that would ensure final local authority over housing and land use decisions.
[42:24] The proposed resolution does not establish specific constitutional language or endorse or
[42:29] endorse a particular initiative, rather it requests that CalCities form a working group to study
[42:34] and develop potential options.
[42:38] We're asking Council to provide the city's voting delegate
[42:41] and alternate voting delegates direction regarding the council's position on this resolution
[42:46] to be voted on at the California City's General Assembly meeting on Friday, September 25th, 2026.
[42:52] Okay. Any council discussion on this resolution. I mean we seem to keep hearing repeatedly
[43:04] that the state has just been changing zoning rules and all of that stuff and without
[43:12] to actually considering any local input, this seems, I mean, it doesn't necessarily do anything
[43:23] at this point, but it kind of seems to be getting the ball rolling in perhaps that direction.
[43:29] It would be nice that we would have some say, and it just seems like it's a step in the right direction.
[43:35] Yeah, I agree.
[43:37] So, I think, Karen, do you have, I mean, Jose, they're not in get me, so I'm just saying that.
[43:45] I mean, it's no, no, Dana, yeah, local control is what we are advocating for that.
[43:50] We have the final saying in land use and housing.
[43:54] Each year, there are at least a thousand bills that are discussed regarding reducing local control
[44:02] or state imposed requirements or regulations or restrictions on housing and land use.
[44:09] So asking for the working group in what can we do to gain more control, it's no
[44:15] brainer.
[44:16] Doesn't mean we're going to get it.
[44:17] No, I don't think we are.
[44:19] People talk to you.
[44:20] Yeah.
[44:20] Exactly.
[44:23] All right.
[44:25] I mean, a working group is there's no harm to a foul and asking for a working group.
[44:30] Yeah.
[44:31] I'm not a huge fan of changing the Constitution, but a working group I'm okay with.
[44:39] So do we have any public comment on this item?
[44:47] So I think the direction we're getting, giving our voting delegates to vote yes on this.
[44:51] Okay.
[44:53] Do we actually need to make, okay, now we've given direction.
[44:58] Direction taken.
[44:59] All right.
[45:00] Moving on to the next item, consideration of the city participation in supporting year-round commercial air service at the Eastern Sierra Regional Airport.
[45:09] Hello, again. We've discussed this previously.
[45:14] Recently, the group of folks that participate in air service plans around the area were notified by United Airlines for the small fee of $200,000.
[45:26] in addition to the other subsidy, but they could close the gap and provide you around air
[45:32] service. I brought this to you all to see if it's something you would like to participate in,
[45:36] I don't know, a month or so ago, and the direction was yes. Since that time, we have had
[45:42] conversations that ad hoc committee that meets with the chamber has met with Tony and the
[45:47] folks from the ad hoc from her team. There's two representatives from her board, and the chamber has
[45:54] also held their strategic mining sessions.
[45:56] So there has been quite a bit of discussion and collaboration amongst this.
[46:02] The Chamber, Tony and the Chamber have determined that they are able to at this point
[46:09] participate to the tune of $15,000 from B-tid funds to contribute to air service.
[46:16] So my recommendation going forward would be that we would contribute $35,000 from the city and make it a total sort of partner city of Bishop slash chamber of commerce visitor center contribution of $50,000.
[46:34] uh... my recommended funding source for this would be from the
[46:39] agreement the annual marketing agreement that is uh... had with the chamber of commerce
[46:45] which is to the tune of eighty five thousand dollars
[46:48] uh... they've heard reducing that agreement to fifty thousand dollars
[46:51] uh... and i have discussed with this with tony and and she is uh...
[46:57] amenable to this change as well
[47:00] We also have an ad hoc committee meeting coming up this Wednesday for that group.
[47:05] And if that is the direction I am given, then Tani and I will work together to come up with
[47:10] an agreement for the $50,000 that will include deliverables for what that will $50,000 will achieve
[47:20] as was discussed by the ad hoc members.
[47:27] I mean, I just want to add to that that at our ad hoc meeting, the members of the Chamber,
[47:38] including Tony were in full support of trying to close the gap and actually looking at how we
[47:49] could go about doing that in our working group.
[47:56] The sentiment in the room was that we want to have a meaningful contribution,
[48:04] but also, of course, keeping within our means,
[48:09] since of all of the entities that are contributing to this,
[48:14] are the ones with, perhaps, the, well,
[48:18] with definitely the smallest budgets around.
[48:21] One other thing that I kind of, and so,
[48:24] and we even brought this up at that meeting about
[48:29] how the city's finances are, like,
[48:32] we can't just print money, and they are finite,
[48:38] and at that meeting, we brought up that the most likely place
[48:43] that this would come from would be from those from from that marketing agreement because
[48:51] even tawny and the chamberboards were like, yes, this would be great for commerce and marketing
[48:58] in the community. So, I don't think anything that you've said come as a surprise to any of the
[49:12] show that we're both committed and together on this.
[49:16] One other thing that I would point out is not exactly a subsidy.
[49:22] It's a minimum revenue guarantee.
[49:26] If they actually reach the revenue caps, we might not actually have to pay out of it
[49:39] into this,
[49:42] if they actually do well and fill the planes,
[49:50] but yes, it's just a stating a commitment
[49:53] on our part to try to get to them. Is there anything else from those meetings?
[50:00] No, but I would like to add some my thoughts.
[50:04] Okay. If unless anyone else...
[50:06] No, you'll go ahead.
[50:09] I do think I would like to add a little bit more money to this contribution.
[50:15] Because I feel like we should be helping our constituents the way we help them with sidewalks or with any sort of other public service.
[50:26] This is a quality of life issue.
[50:29] And we definitely will see a bump in tourism
[50:33] with air service during Thanksgiving holiday.
[50:36] And I think a lot of tourists will use it,
[50:39] but also a lot of locals will use it as well.
[50:42] And I really do believe that some of that money
[50:45] should come directly from just our general fund
[50:48] and not just be-tid or marketing dollars.
[50:54] I have a question.
[51:01] Would this be an annual contribution or one time in the last time?
[51:10] Well, I think that's really up to you all.
[51:12] Budget every year, right?
[51:14] Yeah, but I just want to make sure we all know what we're getting ourselves into it.
[51:19] And I know, the answer to the question, but I wanted to ask.
[51:23] And since it's called minimum service or revenue, warranty, as Steven mentioned, we work
[51:32] to commit $100,000, but maybe we only have to give 75 because they did so well.
[51:38] And they don't need the 100 from us.
[51:44] In theory.
[51:44] In theory.
[51:45] In theory.
[51:46] I mean, in theory that.
[51:47] And we have someone back there that can help us answer that question.
[51:49] Well, I think what I mean, I think the what would come down to at that point is the partners who are filling the gap would arm wrestle over who's giving what level of contribution, right?
[52:04] I mean, so in theory we, in theory we could be asked to provide less in theory, but it would at that point it would be a bit more of a discussion amongst the partners as to who's contributing what dollar amounts actually a clarification on that so there was this so United came back with the 200,000 and I know
[52:29] the airlines has been going around and talking to two different groups, has any other
[52:36] entity already committed?
[52:40] I do know that Mammoth Lake Tourism has increased their T-Bid contribution up to the
[52:47] maximum amount.
[52:49] I'm not going to get my numbers totally right here, but they were at like 42-ish percent and
[52:55] they can go up to 45.
[52:56] if the town mammoth lakes is willing to participate.
[53:01] I don't know if there has been any actual determination from the tribe or Mono County.
[53:10] I think the tribe is a little bit influx with the recent change in their counsel,
[53:15] so I think those conversations are ongoing.
[53:17] And the way, if I remember correctly, the way that these minimum revenue guarantees are structured is that it's kind of a tiered system, right?
[53:34] Like we use this pot first and then that pot and then that pot and so like, are we, do you know where we would be in the pot of money hierarchy?
[53:47] Well, at this point I think that the, a lot of the tiering is already set based on the revenue guarantee for the rest of the year.
[54:00] And so this is really like they're basically saying at this point $200,000 will close the annual gap.
[54:07] And so I think we're in that $200,000 discussion, just on that annual, you know, closing the gap on the year around service.
[54:17] So we're somewhere in that $200,000 neck of the woods.
[54:22] Right.
[54:23] I guess I would want, so we would be on the last year, like it would actually go through all of it and then go to $200,000 at the end.
[54:34] Yes. Um, okay.
[54:37] No.
[54:39] Oh, this guy.
[54:41] Someone wants to talk.
[54:42] This guy comes and interrupts me every time we talk about that.
[54:47] That foster man's lectures.
[54:49] And I might be able to help with with some of this.
[54:52] And we are still working on it.
[54:53] We are having meetings with some of the other partners.
[54:55] We don't have the structure down exactly yet.
[54:58] But generally we've.
[55:00] We've come pretty close to or have hit the cap every year. So we generally don't have money left over, but if we do, it's generally rolled over into the next year. And of course, your, your budget annually, so you could do whatever you want and participate at whatever level that you want. But generally, the subsidies don't go away. If we got to the point where we were saving a bunch of money, that's when we start looking at, okay, we had another route, we had another location, we had another carrier.
[55:27] So generally, we don't really save on the subsidy, it just rolls over into the next year or, like I said, we add other opportunities.
[55:39] No, no arm wrestling.
[55:42] Okay.
[55:43] Question?
[55:45] Comment.
[55:46] May not have questions.
[55:50] I do believe that our money from marketing agreement with the visitors.
[55:56] It should be used better if we use some of that for this minimum revenue warranty.
[56:09] 35, I mean, I'll be willing to give more out of that funding more than 35.
[56:17] Definitely, I also believe that T-Bid was created with intention to bring tourism.
[56:26] And we, everybody, have been, I mean, city council chamber, have been advocating for year-round service.
[56:34] And I do believe that the T-Bid in the future should be used more than $15,000 for this purpose.
[56:45] I don't know if a fixed amount or a percentage of TV should be dedicated for Apple funding.
[56:54] I agree with Karen short, that we could do better.
[57:00] We can do more than 50. How much more? I don't know.
[57:04] 25, 50, I don't
[57:21] think it's possible. Yes, I think we can handle that and I think we
[57:31] already to the community to give back to the community. So yes definitely I'm in support of
[57:41] the recommendation of minimum 50 but maybe maybe more whatever we can do 25 or 50 additional.
[57:51] I'm going to have to disagree. You can disagree with me. That's okay. I just wanted to say that.
[58:00] That's
[58:01] Good day, you're good.
[58:03] It seems to me that Karen's example is really great.
[58:07] She said, it's like sidewalks.
[58:10] If all of our sidewalks in the city bishop were pristine,
[58:16] and there weren't things to trip over,
[58:18] and there weren't big tree roots.
[58:20] Sure, maybe give more.
[58:22] But right now, I think that if we were looking at general fund dollars,
[58:27] The constituency would say, heck, I'll drive to LA.
[58:32] Let me have my sidewalk in front of my house look like it sidewalk should.
[58:37] So that's why I am perfectly happy with the 50.
[58:40] I think we should stay at the 50.
[58:42] Nothing's 35, but 50 with the 50 with the 50.
[58:46] Yeah.
[58:46] Yeah.
[58:47] I don't think that there's anything that preclude us from looking at it again next year.
[58:53] If, you know, if we didn't get to the 200 or some other funky thing happens, but
[59:00] We're basically agreeing whether we mean to or not. We're basically agreeing to do this every year.
[59:06] That's the way this works. And I'm just not willing to put more in less everything else in our town was great.
[59:15] I have one thing written down on my notes, which was again sidewalks.
[59:19] I mean, you took the words out of my mouth, I think, at this point, like, since it is
[59:27] the first time that we're contributing and like it is a trial period to see if we can close this
[59:34] gap and go in forward. I mean, I think I wouldn't be comfortable going into a deficit into the
[59:48] the general budget, at this point, especially since we arrived at this from conversations
[59:58] with the...
[1:00:00] I know the chamber is looking, or the visitor center is looking at, or discussing the possibility of increasing the be-tid amount, and a restructuring of the be-tid, but at present, I think they're capped at that 15,000 number, until those discussions are going forward of increasing that amount in restructuring.
[1:00:32] I have notes, may I?
[1:00:35] Okay.
[1:00:36] I'm going to be the rebel.
[1:00:37] I disagree with you.
[1:00:38] Most of you.
[1:00:40] All right.
[1:00:42] So, the 85,000, and I definitely want to support the report.
[1:00:47] 100%.
[1:00:47] I'll get that out there right here.
[1:00:50] But I don't think we should be reducing from the chamber in any way, shape, perform.
[1:00:55] So the 85,000 gets tourism into the city, into the county, into the surrounding areas.
[1:01:04] If you want to get a bump in tourism, why are we reducing the funds to bring people into the city?
[1:01:10] All right. So by taking 35,000 dollars, the contract that amount to the people that are basically are face into the public.
[1:01:20] That's four less shows that they're going to get to go to.
[1:01:24] Okay, so you own a bump in tourism, less people are going to know about Bishop because we're going to have less faces out there, so 12, 18 months down the road, less people are going to be coming here.
[1:01:36] Because they're not going to be out there representing Bishop.
[1:01:41] So we're going to have less tax dollars, less people coming here, so that's what you're going to get.
[1:01:46] I guess I would be interesting for me, completely to your point.
[1:01:49] And you're also, we're also, I mean, they're going to be laying people off.
[1:01:53] We're going to have less people doing, they're going to have less money.
[1:01:56] Let me just ask you, no, when we, when we spoke at the, at the actual meeting with
[1:02:05] Connie and with Chamber members, when you're talking about laying people off, she had said
[1:02:12] that of the current $85,000 that's going, there are $30,000 is actually going to
[1:02:17] employees and that and so we were coming up with a way to continue that. So it is not accurate
[1:02:24] to say that they're going to be laying people off over this.
[1:02:27] I'm not saying they are. I'm just theorizing because you're going to have less dollars going
[1:02:31] into the Chamber and the Visitor Center. Why are we reducing some of my contracts?
[1:02:36] I guess my question would be I first of you and I weren't not in this meeting where it was
[1:02:43] I've got some great of fun, but I wonder what if you, we feel to look at their advertising
[1:02:50] budget, what percentage of that budget, what actual dollar figures are used to advertise
[1:02:58] the airport,
[1:03:01] and is that near that $15,000 that we're talking about, is it,
[1:03:12] is it, is it
[1:03:13] I'm talking about the 35,000 that we're looking at.
[1:03:17] Dennis, everything.
[1:03:18] I heard you saying that's part of the city's money that we are now contributing
[1:03:21] instead of giving it to the chamber that they used for travel.
[1:03:25] They asked us.
[1:03:27] That's what it, that's where this came from.
[1:03:30] And that was our suggestion to take some of it.
[1:03:33] And of course they're going to say, I mean, they're not going to.
[1:03:35] I wasn't at the meetings.
[1:03:37] So I don't know what the whole thing was, but I just think it's a bad idea.
[1:03:41] I think I just want to remind all of us, I just want to say, the marketing content that we have.
[1:03:51] But we don't have one now, because it is right.
[1:03:54] But the marketing content, it's with the Visual Center,
[1:03:58] now with the Chamber of Commerce, the Chamber and the Visitors Center.
[1:04:01] No, it's both.
[1:04:03] The Chamber of Commerce manages the Visual Center with the contact,
[1:04:08] visitors in there. And the confusion part is that the same people manage both organizations.
[1:04:16] The visitors in there and the chamber of commerce. And the content is for marketing.
[1:04:25] That
[1:04:26] part of the that goes to employees, but it's not dedicated for travel shows is for general
[1:04:34] marketing.
[1:04:37] So I didn't think and a student said it was recommended by the
[1:04:44] Chamber that was a month we'll be fine. So I don't see the need to to find
[1:04:53] about it. We don't want to we're not going to be getting to the details of
[1:04:59] Like...
[1:05:00] The structure of the chamber and those sorts of things. In front of us right now is whether we want to contribute to this minimum revenue guarantee, if we're going to contribute how much, and then if we're going to contribute, where should those funds come from?
[1:05:25] Well, I think one of the things that I appreciate about Dennis is that he is very forward-looking.
[1:05:36] And I guess for me the idea is if we do this this one year and we notice a noticeable change in,
[1:05:46] or if they come to us and they say this is a bigger hit than we thought it was going to be,
[1:05:50] Then then we can look at it again for next fiscal year.
[1:05:55] I just think she was assumed that that was what is what will happen is not correct in my eyes.
[1:06:03] Well, here's the, I'm going to just go back to what Jose said, here's the contract right here.
[1:06:07] It says part of what the contract is travel and sports shows.
[1:06:10] It's right here in the contract I've written front of me.
[1:06:13] Sure.
[1:06:14] So I mean, if we wait a year and we're already down a year, it's going to take 12 months to 18 months to get it back to the travel shows to get these people back.
[1:06:24] I mean, I just, I mean, you can have a discussion about,
[1:06:29] I mean, I know we're not here talking about the chamber. I just don't think it's a good idea to take.
[1:06:34] I mean, away from that.
[1:06:35] It would be interesting to see an actual attribution like analysis on how much is actually coming from
[1:06:41] trade shows versus, like how much tourism is coming from trade shows versus other means
[1:06:49] of marketing, I mean, and so I don't know that that's, I guess, first question, do we
[1:07:03] want to contribute?
[1:07:05] Yes, and I would like some of that to be general fund dollars.
[1:07:08] How much are we looking at wanting to contribute?
[1:07:16] Well, if we added another 15, because I was thinking it would be fair, if we did, if we matched the, I always missed the B-tid and the T-Bid, those numbers, those things.
[1:07:28] But if we matched the T-Bid, out of our general fund dollars, which is a very modest amount out of our general fund, that would be 30 there.
[1:07:41] And then if we wanted to go with the marketing services agreement, you know, an additional 35.
[1:07:48] But you know, remember, the, the, the team ad markets, you know, the hotels.
[1:07:52] We still want to make sure that like all the businesses are getting represented through
[1:07:58] working with vis-à-vis a bishop. So we don't want to, you know, we want our entire business community
[1:08:05] to see the benefits of their marketing. So we want to make sure that we don't
[1:08:10] I got to take too much from it.
[1:08:12] I'm just not okay dipping into the general budget until I actually see these sidewalk projects that are happening.
[1:08:19] But we can't do nothing.
[1:08:21] We're not doing nothing.
[1:08:22] We're talking about it.
[1:08:23] No, no, no, no.
[1:08:23] We're talking 35.
[1:08:25] But we can't like hold all services until the sidewalks are done.
[1:08:30] I mean, that's just not.
[1:08:32] I mean, I mean, I don't know what I'm saying, like philosophically.
[1:08:34] We can use 15 out of our general fund that isn't part of the marketing services agreement.
[1:08:39] And, you know, projects that we've been wanting to see, all of us have been wanting to see, still will get done.
[1:08:45] It's not like we can't not do one thing.
[1:08:49] We can't wait for the sidewalks to get done until we move forward on all these other projects.
[1:08:54] But I think it's a deeper issue than that.
[1:08:58] You know, I frankly think we shouldn't do anything new that's not in the budget until we get some extent.
[1:09:04] But even if we don't say that,
[1:09:09] the idea that
[1:09:13] what we're saying is we want to start at a higher rate using money from general
[1:09:19] funds but then we've promised that right that's like in my eyes that's like given giving a
[1:09:28] kid $10 for his first tooth and then by the time he's lost his six tooth you're given him you
[1:09:34] know, $25. That it worries me that we're setting a precedent here that we, that it's not
[1:09:40] a, something that's continual that can work well down the line.
[1:09:44] This is like a one time, it's a one time mask. We can always re-evaluate for like future strategic
[1:09:51] planning. Yeah, but I know I know it's not a one time mask for like this one time, but like
[1:09:55] we can evaluate on maybe having some of the T-Bid funds.
[1:10:00] Support this more heavily in the future. Like the where the money comes from can be, this is, you know, an ask that wasn't budgeted. We didn't think about it in our strategic planning. It wasn't something that we were asked to consider until it wasn't an opportunity that was present at that time for sure.
[1:10:17] Well, and I think just in the way that Jose said, if we give 100,000, we can get maybe the only
[1:10:22] these 75 pets that it plainness can be, that the money just rolls back in there.
[1:10:27] It's not like it's going to come back to us if other people have more money, or if, you know,
[1:10:33] for some reason that everything is just, you know, super packed all the time.
[1:10:37] I love air service. I think it's a fabulous thing, and I have plenty of people who want to come
[1:10:42] visit for Halloween and there's no flies, but yeah I just it just seems like a big amount
[1:10:52] to throw out there right off the bat.
[1:10:55] Yeah, what amount are you proposing?
[1:10:56] This is an additional 15 just to match the T-bid.
[1:10:59] It's got a total of 50.
[1:11:01] Is that 65?
[1:11:04] Okay, what?
[1:11:05] So she's wanting, she's wanting our 35, plus that it, if 35 from the, from the marketing budget,
[1:11:11] plus an additional 15 from General Fund, plus the be-tid.
[1:11:15] So let's not talk about the be-tid amount.
[1:11:19] We're just talking about what the city has control over.
[1:11:21] So you're advocating for 50.
[1:11:25] From the city.
[1:11:26] From the city.
[1:11:26] Sure.
[1:11:27] Like in this next year,
[1:11:34] what are you advocating for?
[1:11:37] I didn't have a number in mind.
[1:11:39] But do you want else to come from general fund?
[1:11:45] Well, actually, let's hear from the public.
[1:11:48] Any public comment on this item?
[1:12:01] Yeah.
[1:12:06] Right.
[1:12:08] So in our meeting, we had last week in regards
[1:12:12] to the budgeting and our working group,
[1:12:17] we did discuss the increasing,
[1:12:18] going to the T-bit members,
[1:12:21] and increasing that per the percentage that is in the contract.
[1:12:25] And then as we had talked about on the ad hoc, the 15 is what we can do max at the
[1:12:30] T-bit, and then I think it's very generous.
[1:12:33] Or we have talked about how we can move funds and re-budget some certain things.
[1:12:38] And so I think it's a win-win situation for both a chamber and the city for the 50,
[1:12:45] that we agreed upon at the ad hoc.
[1:12:46] So, and that was agreed upon from it coming from the marketing budget with the chamber.
[1:12:55] So the decision makers were present.
[1:13:01] So, yeah.
[1:13:02] Good job.
[1:13:05] I'm going to come up.
[1:13:10] Stay your name.
[1:13:11] So, Allison, can I add it to the record?
[1:13:12] Thank you.
[1:13:13] I'm a board member for the chamber.
[1:13:16] I'm not sure that all the players have voiced all their participation yet.
[1:13:22] amounts. Is that correct? Like if man is tourism is given money. So I don't know how much money
[1:13:28] is needed at this point. So maybe this may be a bit of a return to we get all the parties
[1:13:35] involved with all their commitment if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. Well I think that may be true,
[1:13:43] right? But there's sort of,
[1:13:48] I don't see why we can't say okay we're willing to contribute whatever.
[1:13:51] This dollar amount of this group says and then, you know, the airlines folks can come back and say,
[1:13:56] all right, we're still $50,000 short, let's keep digging, right?
[1:14:01] It's I think we have to take somebody else to take a step forward and come up with a
[1:14:04] amount. That's, that's where I'm coming from is.
[1:14:06] Not appreciate that. So,
[1:14:13] yeah, they're, they're still working on that, but yeah,
[1:14:18] any other
[1:14:18] members of the public? I mean, we could do, um, just 15 out of general fund, even though
[1:14:27] the marketing services agreement is general fun, but pretending that it's not, and just do.
[1:14:32] But it's added.
[1:14:32] Committed general funds from a budget that we're not doing into our budgeted dollars.
[1:14:40] But we could take some of the money.
[1:14:43] You know, just keep the marketing services agreement.
[1:14:46] You know, minus 15,000.
[1:14:49] And so they have a bigger marketing services agreement.
[1:14:55] So it's keep it at 50, but shuffling that dollars around.
[1:14:59] We can do that.
[1:15:01] But, you know, this was, I mean, since 2015, people have been saying, we want air service. We got there. And now, people are saying, we want your round air service. And I just, you know, I hear people are so psyched on it. It is something that they, it has improved the quality of life for so many people. It helps with our economy. I'm, you know, I just think that it's a, no brainer.
[1:15:29] I understand that. I mean, I also think we have other things to that people have been asking for longer than air service.
[1:15:40] And I mean, I think this is, since this is a one-time ask, like, I don't want to,
[1:15:52] Like, because essentially this is where I were talking about having a recurring expenditure, I'm not, I'm not in a place where I think we should be committing future councils to a lot more, and so I would still advocate that we do that we
[1:16:13] The future accounts are going to change until we hear back from the other parties that were
[1:16:20] involved that have been asked to contribute.
[1:16:25] How do we one of this make this, is this a stop direction or action item?
[1:16:40] So I'm going to make a motion to authorize the city of Bishop, participate in the regional
[1:16:45] effort to secure your round airline service through a $35,000 annual contribution taken from
[1:16:54] the marketing budget.
[1:16:56] I'll second that.
[1:16:58] Alison, we have a motion a second.
[1:17:04] That's a member con.
[1:17:06] Council member Garcia?
[1:17:07] Council member shorts?
[1:17:10] Yes.
[1:17:11] Mayor Pro Temfroynt?
[1:17:14] Mayor Mojouvi.
[1:17:14] Yes.
[1:17:15] motion passes for the one.
[1:17:19] Next up, resolution is establishing timed parking zones and permit parking zones pursuant
[1:17:26] to section 10.28.1040 of the Bishop Municipal Code.
[1:17:31] Good evening Mayor and Council.
[1:17:34] As you know, the city initiated the parking study to evaluate our parking demands and see what
[1:17:42] strategies would better manage parking in downtown.
[1:17:47] So the data was collected on parking in 2024,
[1:17:52] and analysis showed the overall sort of class of parking
[1:17:55] over 900 spaces on the highest observed occupancy.
[1:18:01] However, certain areas still experience limited
[1:18:05] availability during peak times, yet parking is generally available within five to two minutes walk.
[1:18:16] Based on the data collected, the public survey, public workshops, and two week common period
[1:18:23] was all materials available in city website. The following strategies are proposed for the parking
[1:18:30] implementation plan. So the first strategy is designating four employee parking locations within
[1:18:40] less than five minute walk of downtown core businesses. This areas would allow parking
[1:18:46] for beyond two and three hour limits, but prohibit overnight parking. The second strategy
[1:18:55] proposed is to establishing two-hour parking from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. in areas that reached 9-200
[1:19:06] percent occupancy based on the study with no parking from midnight to 6 a.m.
[1:19:15] This strategy ensures that our highest demand and highest parking that need highest turnover
[1:19:23] have more availability of parking.
[1:19:27] The third strategy involves a short street parking
[1:19:30] lot, increasing daily time parking availability for high school users, employees,
[1:19:35] and events by restricting overnight parking.
[1:19:40] The overnight parking would be established in the
[1:19:47] available at the city hall and those parking lot will be available for visitors to live
[1:19:57] their car for a few nights.
[1:20:00] It would not be a long term parking as I called it on the maps. We already have long term parking in CRS Street, where you can reserve parking for up to six months.
[1:20:11] This is more intended for visitors to live cars overnight.
[1:20:15] And then lastly, fleet parking, the city is open to providing some parking spaces on a agreement base to local businesses.
[1:20:27] and this will be handled on case-by-case basis.
[1:20:33] Following the implementation of this parking implementation plan,
[1:20:39] the next steps would involve creating a user-friendly map,
[1:20:43] that shows all the changes, creating a website page,
[1:20:49] designing way-finding signage,
[1:20:53] and installing new parking duration signage,
[1:20:57] the new Park Indian Ocean Signage 20 State to be installed in October and the way finding
[1:21:04] signage is planned to be completed by the end of the year.
[1:21:09] The Parking Permit Program and the fees would be brought in 2027 to avoid administrative
[1:21:16] burden of changing permits at the end of the year.
[1:21:21] So, the staff recommends adoption of the resolution established and timed and permanent parking zones,
[1:21:29] pursuant to sections 10, 28, 140 of the Bishop Municipal Code and directing staff to implement the
[1:21:37] parking study recommendations listed in the Exhibit A and Implementation Plan Maps. Thank you.
[1:21:50] any questions?
[1:21:53] I have a question. Um, I,
[1:21:59] anyone who knows me knows I'm
[1:22:00] basically challenged, so I apologize in advance. Um, though a lot, um, on a
[1:22:08] academy and Warren, that lot is not looking at any changes. Academy, no. Okay.
[1:22:16] it will remain three hours. Yeah.
[1:22:21] Okay. I have a question. So regarding like the permit parking
[1:22:25] for employees, do you have a plan on how we're going to manage that? Like is it going to be
[1:22:31] X amount of employees get X amount of like one business gets this many.
[1:22:36] Parking permits based on how many employees they have and then how long is the permit?
[1:22:42] And is it like a sticker or a hang tie or how are we going to facilitate all of that?
[1:22:46] at the start we were going to start just by designated locations for employees to park
[1:22:52] and letting them know that's that's the place that they can park there's no permit they just have to park there
[1:22:59] yeah
[1:23:00] and they don't technically have to but they have if they don't and they risk having to move their car every three hours
[1:23:05] or they're encouraged to park there yes okay got it okay yes okay it's not like a
[1:23:10] permit system. Okay. And then I wasn't clear exactly on the 6 p.m. or the midnight to 6 a.m.
[1:23:21] areas. Is that all the areas in town? I was confused by that.
[1:23:28] Essentially what the goal is
[1:23:29] to not have overnight parking in these lots. So okay. That's the, you know, the sign tends to
[1:23:36] imply oh, you know, two hour parking from six to six. And then there will be an additional
[1:23:41] verbizion there that says no overnight parking, but we did have some concerns about
[1:23:45] businesses that are open late and maintaining some of those restrictions during the
[1:23:52] evening or early morning hours even.
[1:23:57] So I think the employee part of
[1:24:00] can should be my permit only. Not open. So my concern. I concern there is just
[1:24:09] administrative burden. Yeah. Well, and even if we had thousands of employees who could handle
[1:24:15] the administrative burden, how do you stop people who are no longer working there from using
[1:24:21] those parking spaces, right? I mean, that there's a lot of, oh, that person got fired yesterday,
[1:24:25] it's yank this sticker off their car. Yes. I mean, it isn't administrative burden. And there are plenty
[1:24:32] of lots. There are some lots that are going to be tighter than others that are sort of going to
[1:24:36] encourage to be employee only. But for example, the lot behind us where, you know, people
[1:24:42] park like that, that can be sort of longer term, not time limits, and we'll encourage employees
[1:24:47] to park there. We'll be monitoring overnight. There's certain times now that people who are
[1:24:53] parking overnight go into the PD and get a permit so that the PD knows to not tow them after
[1:24:58] a certain amount of time.
[1:25:00] But yeah, the goal is to not be completely out there monitoring. I mean, the employee lots are not convenient to lots. They're not the lots right outside the doors of the businesses where the goal is to clear those lots so that shoppers and eaters and folks who are running in and out can get to those spaces.
[1:25:21] And that's why I think the permit only will allow PD to identify vehicles that have
[1:25:29] allowed to be there and versus those that are not, can be, but somebody else will be
[1:25:36] part there for longer than allowed.
[1:25:39] But I bet it would cost us like a hundred and a year to manage some sort of permits
[1:25:43] system. I mean, it would be a string. But okay, I mean, comment. But the point I think that
[1:25:52] you're getting at is how if you have this employee parking, how are you going to ensure
[1:25:58] that it was actually in those lots are employees on like on their shift or whatnot and just not
[1:26:08] to somebody who realized like,
[1:26:10] I could just park there for a couple of hours all day long.
[1:26:16] The hard thing is when we start looking at it,
[1:26:19] is the moment that we put burden on employee,
[1:26:23] that we want employees to want to park
[1:26:25] in those employee lots or the longer term lots.
[1:26:28] And if we start putting more hoops to jump through
[1:26:32] for them to do that, the less likely they are to do it.
[1:26:35] So the goal is to, and if it gets to having to be that way
[1:26:37] that we can reassess that.
[1:26:39] But our main goal is like, if we start enforcing
[1:26:42] the more or less block corridor, where we have the three-hour parking,
[1:26:46] so that we do have better flow of business
[1:26:49] than the employees will start to park into the city lot
[1:26:53] in the 12 hour loss behind the Elx and all of that.
[1:26:56] And that's started to already kind of work just off of that.
[1:27:00] It's just word of mouth and let them know
[1:27:01] and to work on the businesses that their employees know.
[1:27:04] It's already started to work that way.
[1:27:05] And I think jumping into a whole permit system, both staff costs, and then making employees
[1:27:11] have to jump through more chains to be able to park.
[1:27:13] We're not trying to be more strict through trying to be less restrictive and just kind
[1:27:17] of just ease the flow for businesses.
[1:27:21] And let's just be clear.
[1:27:22] A lot of the reason why this is coming about is at the request of business owners and the
[1:27:30] town corridor. By far. By far. They have been requesting that we start enforcing the time limits
[1:27:41] and looking at these employee lots. I actually don't know if anyone else had a person
[1:27:47] contacted me besides business owners requesting it. Some questions that I have are around the
[1:27:58] long-term lots. And so right now there's what are the existing long-term lots in the city.
[1:28:08] We have one existing long-term lot on CRS Street. And how does and what is long-term mean
[1:28:15] and how does somebody like go part there? So we have a fee that between 200 to 300 dollars
[1:28:23] for six months, and people get the permits at the police department, and the permit is valid for six months.
[1:28:32] Okay, and there are obviously regulations with those long-term lots about not having
[1:28:42] living out of an RV there in those sorts of things. Yes. And then in this new proposal,
[1:28:49] serious treat is still the only long-term lot. And then the other question is around the overnight
[1:28:57] lots. Currently, what are the overnight lots that exist? Are there any?
[1:29:07] Currently, we use, so kind of what's to put out there through the chamber through businesses is
[1:29:13] to come to the police department and this was standing long before I got there. They come to the
[1:29:17] They give their name and their vehicle description, plate number, and they park their into the city lot.
[1:29:24] And then, but there's no regulation on where to park.
[1:29:27] So CO Street Lot, those long-term parking lots are actually designated their numbered public works,
[1:29:32] as it nice and set up for them, that they, you know, I get space 31.
[1:29:37] You park your boat because you live in the Sierra Tour de Park right there, and you park your boat over there.
[1:29:41] That's the most common situation.
[1:29:45] Now, for like overnight, for if you're going to do a hike for five days, or you can do a
[1:29:50] bishop pass, or whatever it is, you come in and sound me there for five days.
[1:29:54] They park over there.
[1:29:54] It's unregulated on where they park, so then we have an event come up and they need to use that.
[1:30:00] parking lot, and we have a vehicle that's sitting there. We can't legally tow it. We already, you know, so then we have vehicles in the way.
[1:30:08] So, giving that and the fact that it's used by the school heavily and all of the businesses that we're trying to push all of our employees to park and we want them to have ample parking.
[1:30:17] The underused lot is the fire street lot. And so we were trying to figure out a way that and we'll come later with possible fees and charges or whatever.
[1:30:27] When it comes to the whole new schedule, to be able to get them to go over there, because we still want that.
[1:30:33] We just need to negotiate a better because the needs of the city and the uses of that lot of kind of...
[1:30:39] It's evolved a little bit, so we can take the burden off of that and put it on the foul or street lot for those.
[1:30:43] So we would essentially, for the overnight parking, we would still...
[1:30:56] to the PDE to get a like permit to be able to go there.
[1:31:04] Yes. Would those lots exclude short-term parking?
[1:31:15] No, no.
[1:31:17] All right.
[1:31:18] And then one other question I have is that the
[1:31:27] The within like a half a block of Main Street is when there's a lot of turnover.
[1:31:35] And I see that some of these streets on like when they're budding up against Main Street,
[1:31:45] we said that there were going to be no changes.
[1:31:51] I'm looking in particular to East and West Elm, where there were saying there are no changes, so what is it currently there?
[1:32:00] Currently East Elm doesn't have a parking limit. West Elm, I believe it's short-term parking in that section three hours.
[1:32:12] 3 hours. And so is there a reason why we wouldn't change East Elm to kind of match instead
[1:32:28] of having this like patchwork where one street like oh there's no limit but the next one
[1:32:37] and it's three hours and so on and so forth.
[1:32:44] We could change it, there are a lot of,
[1:32:46] the reason was the uses,
[1:32:48] there were a lot of hotels that have a lot of parking on site.
[1:32:55] The buses park on East Elm,
[1:32:56] on the street, right?
[1:32:58] Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of buses on East Elm.
[1:33:01] The park in the two, by those two hotels right there,
[1:33:03] by Google Springs.
[1:33:05] And so it would be difficult to make it short term, I think.
[1:33:08] If you did three hour parking and they parked over night or all day, I don't know how you would, where they would move to.
[1:33:19] Part of the complaints that I've heard from people in town, it's mainly West Elm Street and Main Street.
[1:33:28] And I guess, well, I'm sorry for interrupting, but I had a complaint from a hotel owner
[1:33:37] on East Elm, which there is one to three motels in one block section of East Elm.
[1:33:48] And there is frequently almost every single day you see commercial vehicles, old buses,
[1:33:55] part on the street, blocking sometimes, entrances to, I mean, one of these motels
[1:34:04] is not more than one. So, I don't, I think we have to, we should look closely at East
[1:34:17] and whether we want this open parking 24-7, and if we run all out overnight, parking
[1:34:29] there, then who, and then necessarily who, but just be cautious and ask these businesses,
[1:34:38] these motels, because they, he does affect their business.
[1:34:43] one of the buses are parking there because they're they're blocking it because there's no room there too many buses may be or wonder why
[1:34:50] maybe there's no place to park a bus
[1:34:54] yeah
[1:35:00] Would there, I guess, yeah, when we were looking at this parking study, we were mainly looking at passenger vehicles, I guess one question.
[1:35:07] And they're just parking, in the park?
[1:35:10] I mean, is part of this, should we actually, like, direct these sorts of large buses to, to park at a particular location?
[1:35:24] Because I mean, they're obviously dropping people off and then driving somewhere, right?
[1:35:28] And then necessarily buses, but like this construction commercial type vehicles that
[1:35:37] water tanks or some of the type of vehicles that they do park.
[1:35:42] I guess the question for me is, do we have areas surrounding driveways with little red on both sides of the driveways?
[1:35:51] to
[1:35:53] So the curves are marked red on either side of the driveway so people are not I don't think there are many curves on on East
[1:36:01] Tell me I guess the part the buses could park on the overnight parking lot that we're designated. No, yeah, yeah
[1:36:11] Could we make yeah, I think that would be
[1:36:15] be good because I don't I don't I don't know that I mean necessarily won't buses like
[1:36:21] blocking taking up all of the parking in a, because one bus will take up all the parking in a given street.
[1:36:30] I guess the question for me is, there's part of me that feels like we have to do this in pieces and I know pieces are terrible,
[1:36:39] because it's nice to get it all done at once, but there are, if you saw in our comments, there were a couple of comments about
[1:36:46] residential areas and RV's parking for months at a time and all of those pieces and so
[1:36:51] I feel part of me feels like the east and west-LM issues are more part of that piece of this than the
[1:37:00] commercial businesses piece and that maybe what we need to do is sort of look at it in a
[1:37:09] a whole picture way.
[1:37:11] Well, at least I can go ahead.
[1:37:12] No, wasn't going to say that, but help the business owners first by pushing, you know,
[1:37:21] doing that piece, getting the employees to where they are parking farther away and taking
[1:37:25] a little block or two walks of work, and then looking at big picture-wise at the residential
[1:37:33] areas.
[1:37:35] I don't think any of the discussion that we had was on here has to do with the
[1:37:41] With changing things on the residential area. Well, that's what I'm saying, but you're talking about you're talking about West Elm
[1:37:48] So at West Elm at Main Street at
[1:37:51] At Main that's not residential. That's the church and the
[1:37:56] Motel department complex
[1:38:01] church the church on one side and the sorry I'm I had a long day
[1:38:07] Okay, it's this next. You're talking about like dollar store street. Yeah, yeah, that's the long way of hell, Dorado bank. That's for us, bro. Oh, okay
[1:38:17] I was like I was I was confused. I was like, I wasn't like
[1:38:21] Yeah, that's okay. Okay, yeah, but a long day. Yeah, so this is the Dollar Tree. Yeah, and that all right, and so some of that for me
[1:38:30] When I was looking at this future date stuff with businesses
[1:38:35] Some of that on Grove that you're talking about is how many cars Mr. K has out there in about and and same
[1:38:44] And same and same with Rose Street right there's there's that place right there and a lot of those cars are cars that are sitting for extended periods of time
[1:38:54] And so that feels like something that that
[1:38:58] Yeah, I know off the top of my head how we deal with that as an issue because we don't want to impede their businesses
[1:39:03] but I hear you.
[1:39:07] One other question that I have is,
[1:39:11] where we are saying now, like three hours or less on all of these streets,
[1:39:19] like in particular, yeah, like pine and east pine and grow.
[1:39:26] West Grove,
[1:39:33] how isn't that in direct conflict with a resolution that we had a little while
[1:39:44] ago saying that food trucks don't need a permit to park in these areas?
[1:39:52] Sort of.
[1:39:55] And so we sort of in conflict that the food trucks have encroach me.
[1:40:00] Permit that allows them to have a little bit of different rules. Yes. Okay. And they come in and get those encroachment. Yes, sir. All right. Okay.
[1:40:11] Okay. That clarifies my confusion. And so I think I think the this seems reasonable, especially because this is going to be like, I guess one other question I have is how are we going to deal with the
[1:40:29] the complaints that have been brought up in the past, say around the BBC, the old Josephs
[1:40:43] about the patrons of the movie theater taking up all of their parking.
[1:40:49] So that's part of why the resolution is written in such a way that says whatever it says,
[1:40:53] I don't know if this parking lot is three hours or less or two hours or less, but there will
[1:40:57] This resolution will allow us to then go in and not have to designate the whole parking lot as one or the other.
[1:41:05] So there might be, right by the door of business, there's things are quick.
[1:41:10] That might be a 30 minute parking or 24 minute parking zone.
[1:41:13] And then a few spaces down where someone might park and go to lunch might be a two hour zone.
[1:41:19] And where somebody might go to get there.
[1:41:21] Um, hair done and need three hours or might be, so the, that lot in particular will contain
[1:41:28] um, a variety of parking choices, and so that you can sort of, sort of, sort of, all of those folks in a direct way.
[1:41:36] And it's flexible as businesses change.
[1:41:38] Yes.
[1:41:39] Yeah.
[1:41:39] It allows for flexibility.
[1:41:41] Yes.
[1:41:42] Yeah.
[1:41:43] All right.
[1:41:45] I don't think you're right.
[1:41:46] You're making public comments.
[1:41:48] Yeah.
[1:41:48] Yeah, I don't know, let's go.
[1:41:55] All right, I don't see any.
[1:41:56] All right, I'd like to make a motion to adopt
[1:41:58] the resolution established time parking zones
[1:42:01] and permit parking zones pursuant to section 10, 28,
[1:42:04] 140 of the Bishop Municipal Code and direct staff
[1:42:06] to implement the parking study.
[1:42:08] Recommended recommendations identified by Exhibit A.
[1:42:11] Take the note.
[1:42:13] Hey, Allison calls her up.
[1:42:15] Right, Council Member Kong.
[1:42:17] Yes.
[1:42:17] Councilmember Garcia. Yes. Councilmember Schwartz. Yes. Yes. Mayor Protem Froint. Yes. Mayor Mojovie. Yes.
[1:42:25] The motion passes 5-0. Okay, next up, the Mending Resolution number 2026-05 to revise certain
[1:42:32] commercial water and sewer classifications rates. Well, again, as you all know, we did
[1:42:39] water rate study to increase the rates on water and sewer for our city residents that was long
[1:42:46] overdo and hadn't been done a long time, we rolled those rate changes out, defective July
[1:42:53] first, and in the rollout, the folks that were doing the data input and realized that there
[1:43:00] were some corrections that needed to be made.
[1:43:04] So this resolution changes a few things, probably not as many things as the public has
[1:43:12] concerns about, but this is what we are able to change at this point based on our ability to
[1:43:20] with the rate study and the two 18 hearing. So, this would move churches and meeting halls from
[1:43:26] category B to category A. Grocery stores that do not have any food prep in them or a need for a
[1:43:32] gross grease trap would move from category B to category A and it eliminates the fee for closed
[1:43:38] businesses.
[1:43:41] Again, we've looked at this. We know you've heard the comments and thoughts about it
[1:43:45] and in consultation with our legal team. These are the changes we are able to make at this time.
[1:43:55] I guess one question I have is, does this address some of the concerns that got brought up to us
[1:44:04] about like a commercial building usage.
[1:44:08] It does not.
[1:44:11] We took an imperfect way of charging for these services
[1:44:20] and adopted a different imperfect way of adopting a user.
[1:44:24] We knew it was going to be imperfect because we don't
[1:44:27] have meters to see how to have actual usage numbers.
[1:44:34] So the prop to 18 materials indicates that we charge on a square-footage basis, and so there is no mechanism by which staff or the council without additional action that we don't know what that looks like at this point can make any changes.
[1:45:00] Even if somebody has a building that they're only using half of it, there's we don't have a mechanism to reduce their rates based on that because our metric was square footage.
[1:45:13] I see.
[1:45:14] But my understanding was that the prop to 18 was specifying an upper limit.
[1:45:23] That is true.
[1:45:24] An upper bound and so there is wiggle room there
[1:45:35] implementing that.
[1:45:37] Well, there's wiggle room with regard to what the rates we charge, but there is we don't
[1:45:44] have any way of checking the mechanism, right?
[1:45:49] We don't have a way of saying, well, you only use half of your building,
[1:45:53] so we're going to charge you half the rate.
[1:45:55] That is, that's not something we can do on a case by case basis.
[1:45:59] And I can let Dean can certainly jump in here,
[1:46:01] because it is a very legal process.
[1:46:06] So, yeah, I was going to add some bumpers to this,
[1:46:09] but Council Member Mojave, Urban Ayer Mojave,
[1:46:10] went right into it.
[1:46:12] We looked at this hearing that some of the complaints in some of the issues and we actually
[1:46:16] kind of surgically decided how much we could go and how far we could go.
[1:46:21] The administrative changes is what I'm going to call what's proposed before you tonight is
[1:46:26] not making any fundamental changes to the mechanism by which the rates are charged.
[1:46:33] It's not increasing any of the rates that are charged or it's not reclassifying groups
[1:46:38] so that it would result in it increase to those groups.
[1:46:40] So that's about as far as administrative, you can go, but the actual mechanism by which you calculate the rates and certainly the rates themselves other than operating within the window that you know you have are the limits for this.
[1:46:56] Now, if there's direction to the staff to maybe implement this and then bring back to the council a larger overview picture in terms of what the options would be.
[1:47:05] That's a deeper legal discussion in terms of how far we get away from the 218 or the water rate study,
[1:47:12] and how valid that is as we get out in time would give us the options that the sort of nuclear
[1:47:19] options, if you will, in terms of blowing things up or completely re-vamping or modifying it on
[1:47:27] the things that we need to do within the 218 context. We can bring that back. This is sort of the
[1:47:32] biggest bandage that we could put on the issues that we're identified?
[1:47:36] Um,
[1:47:39] okay. Um, can, can I ask if, because, I mean, this in perfect system came about because we don't have any visibility until to water usage, right?
[1:47:54] Is it the kind of thing that, instead of waiting five years and then trying to install
[1:48:02] water meters on everything that we could try to do something like that, which is a state
[1:48:10] requirement and everything that we could try to do something like that in a piecemeal fashion
[1:48:14] and prioritize commercial businesses first and get, and then would we still have to go back to the 2018 process as meters get installed to make that more equitable.
[1:48:39] You would, but it would be a fairly chaotic and almost unworkable
[1:48:45] ordinance to start charging
[1:48:48] certain meters by this usage and by this mechanism and others
[1:48:52] Through another mechanism. There's nothing wrong with the city implement phasing implementation of water meters
[1:48:59] But the transition over to we're now going to base water rates on usage
[1:49:04] literally could just not be done in a okay we're gonna start with you 50 over here
[1:49:09] I don't have a separate whole tax rate and process for you for a larger city
[1:49:14] It might be doable with a really complicated ordinance, but for bishop. I just don't think it would be manageable if it's legal
[1:49:22] Can I have a
[1:49:25] sample of what type of businesses we're actually talking about that will move from category B to a
[1:49:35] It would just be churches and meeting halls and any grocery stores that do not prepare
[1:49:41] food and are not required to have a grease trap.
[1:49:44] That's the main change.
[1:49:46] That's the only change.
[1:49:46] There's only change.
[1:49:48] And not having a fee for closed businesses.
[1:49:51] Those are the only changes that we can implement without further exploration into the
[1:49:58] 2018 process.
[1:50:02] Thank you.
[1:50:07] Any public comment?
[1:50:18] Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'm Tyler. I live on the academy. And I think that these proposed changes are great, and they should be done. Thank you.
[1:50:32] Okay.
[1:50:34] So my comments, I mean, I like the changes, but I think that I'd like to personally go back and see how we can fix
[1:50:45] just the sudden increases to the small businesses where you're talking to the lady that own the salon.
[1:50:54] Like two and a half times increase for her probably with her fixed income customers,
[1:51:00] where she's on a fixed revenue, it makes it incredibly difficult for her to run her business.
[1:51:06] You know, I mean, in my, like I said, when we were rolling this all out, my personal water
[1:51:11] billing sewer bill went up six and a half times. So we went from June, $165 a month to
[1:51:19] July over $1100 a month. Like that's a punch in the face and I knew it was coming. So I mean,
[1:51:25] see these people that weren't paying attention to it, they weren't looking at the notice,
[1:51:29] is that weren't coming to the meetings and you know I mean I'm part of the group that's going
[1:51:34] down because we don't have the prepared food like Bishop Beverage Center they don't even have
[1:51:38] a public restroom and they don't use part of their square footage so I'm sure there's one
[1:51:42] up like six and a half seven times as well so those are the ones that we're backing up but like
[1:51:48] we had I thought we did a really good job when we were looking at the residential we looked at a
[1:51:54] We took a lot of time making sure that we didn't impact the residential people, you know,
[1:52:00] that's why we only went up 20 or 25%.
[1:52:02] But when we're talking at 2x increase all the sudden for all the commercial businesses,
[1:52:08] it really is a lot for all of the commercial businesses in town to try and deal with.
[1:52:14] And I'm ashamed of myself that I didn't speak up more when we were all in through it.
[1:52:19] I think like I just glossed over it as well. I didn't speak up enough when we were all in this out and I for one would like to go back and just revisit
[1:52:26] If we need increases absolutely and I mean, I don't have a problem going from $165 to $500, but doing it in up from
[1:52:37] Zero to a hundred miles an hour is tough on any business and the expenses are also high, right?
[1:52:43] I mean, it's tough for any of us as expenses all go up. I think it's very revisited to some degree
[1:52:49] I don't know if we just a pretty involved process, but I think, yeah, I mean, that makes sense to me that we should revisit it.
[1:52:57] I'm not opposed to revisiting it, just because I think, yeah, we went from one system that wasn't great to another system that's not great.
[1:53:08] But there are businesses out there that I've heard from that actually have lower costs.
[1:53:15] Yeah, some of the restaurants, some of the restaurants because because you look at their tables versus their square foot right and so we just have to be mindful that as much as it's a messy system we got to we got to make sure that we're not, you know
[1:53:32] We've already, excuse my language. We've already screwed over some people. So I want to go back and fix it so that we've we go and screw over the other people.
[1:53:40] I think, well, yeah, but I think we can do that and be mindful of that because
[1:53:48] I mean, when was the last time that these rates were ever changed 10 years ago and so, yeah,
[1:53:55] I mean, I agree that like these changes within what we can do are fine and we should do them
[1:54:06] And we should reconsider the commercial rates that we're set at a future time.
[1:54:19] I mean, it shows how we're, it shows how weird the rates were and how bad these are.
[1:54:25] Yeah, that if we're looking to write size, so to speak, the rates that business is saved money with the new rates like how bad were they'd be for
[1:54:36] Right, you save money with the new rates. It just doesn't make any sense
[1:54:40] I mean good for them. Somehow. I'm all for that
[1:54:46] I want your tainted motion
[1:54:48] I'll make a motion
[1:54:52] Just say so move
[1:54:55] Some of the approval of our resolution.
[2:00:00] So we're looking for a job. Just a little bit more stability in that sense. And lastly, it also helps with recruitment and retention. I've hired a lot of city managers and a lot of city administrators, and sometimes it's really hard to recruit for a city administrator, because people experience know what they're coming into and they're coming into that limbo position, knowing that, you know, some of the people I'm supervising are going to be directly supervised by my boss. And so it does, it does actually open up when you're recruiting for that position.
[2:00:28] And many people will not apply for city administrator positions because they say, I won't do that if I can't run my team and the city.
[2:00:36] So with that, I'll submit to that.
[2:00:38] Let me point this out lastly.
[2:00:43] I've seen some written comments in terms of that this action by the council and tonight is just direction to bring it back to you with the appropriate resolutions and documents.
[2:00:53] But I saw some writing suggesting that somehow this takes away from the voters.
[2:00:58] The opportunity to put who they want to in office and they have the two have nothing to do with each other.
[2:01:04] There are five elected city council persons in this city and there's one elected city treasure.
[2:01:09] This moving to a city manager form of government changes nothing to who the electives are appointed to the public.
[2:01:18] And if the public is upset with the elected as who they've hired in their city administrator, then that's the way that conversation goes, and then we go backwards from there. So with with that I'll submit.
[2:01:29] I guess to first I guess let's let's talk about council clarifying questions.
[2:01:38] Does anybody have any, any clarification, sir?
[2:01:44] Nope.
[2:01:45] I think you're explain that really well.
[2:01:48] Okay.
[2:01:49] Shall we hear from the public?
[2:01:53] Any public comment?
[2:02:03] Bishop's small for a reason.
[2:02:05] And I'm glad that we're not like 80% of other cities.
[2:02:12] Man, Council, I'm Tyler Beatle, I ask you not to move forward with this change to the Council
[2:02:19] Manager form of government.
[2:02:21] Right now, the elected Council appoints the city administrator and key officers.
[2:02:27] This gives residents a direct line of accountability through the people they vote for.
[2:02:33] The proposed change would give an undelected city manager the power to hire and fire police
[2:02:37] chief city clerk and most staff, the council will mainly only be able to fire the manager.
[2:02:47] I believe that level of authority should stay with the elected officials, so the public
[2:02:51] can hold decision-makers accountable.
[2:02:54] This idea was considered in 2019 and not adopted and for good reason.
[2:02:58] Please keep this current structure that maintains a clear transparency and accountability
[2:03:05] to the voters.
[2:03:07] Thank you.
[2:03:11] Council discussion?
[2:03:14] Oh, yeah.
[2:03:21] Jeff Griffiths, Edward Streep.
[2:03:25] I remember Rick Pucci explaining to me the difference between a manager, style of council
[2:03:34] and administrator, style of council.
[2:03:37] And Rick's point was, it's always functionally the same that if you're administrators really good, they're keeping everybody in line anyways.
[2:03:47] But during my time, the reality is the person who has day-to-day interaction with those department heads is the head staff person you have in the city or the county.
[2:04:00] And when you're expected to give a performance evaluation of department heads that you don't work with on a daily basis,
[2:04:11] you don't give the most complete performance evaluation to those people.
[2:04:16] You don't have the knowledge to be able to give them exactly what they need.
[2:04:20] And then in cases where there's dissension amongst the ranks, you can have a department head who goes over the head of the city manager and appeals directly to the city council and it just messes everything up.
[2:04:37] I think there's a reason that 95% of cities have gone to this.
[2:04:40] I think we should have gone to this a long time ago and I support this change.
[2:04:45] Thank you.
[2:04:46] Jeff, can I ask you a question with your supervisor hat on?
[2:04:51] Sure.
[2:04:51] How does it work at the county?
[2:04:53] So the county has administrator form of government.
[2:04:58] Counties get a little bit more complicated.
[2:05:00] Just because you have elected Department heads and and then there's charter counties and there's so it does, it's not simple binary, but I was actually just talking with staff today how I wish we could move to more of a manager style.
[2:05:18] I believe Tomaro, I am giving performance evaluations to the environmental health director, and planning director, agricultural commissioner, and these are people like, you know, I work with these people on projects, I generally know what's going on, but I don't know the day-to-day interactions with their staff, are they complying with budget, you know, procedures,
[2:05:47] like all of the minutia that only dedicated manager administrator, head person, head staff person is going to do.
[2:06:00] And so I think if any of us are good at our jobs, we're leaning heavily on that person anyways,
[2:06:08] but they're the people who are actually doing the supervision on a day-to-day basis.
[2:06:12] And, like I say, if Pam isn't consulting you about whether somebody's doing a good job or whether somebody needs to be hired or fired,
[2:06:23] like Pam could get fired, any second or fourth Monday, the month.
[2:06:31] And she knows that.
[2:06:33] And that's why she's in that position, but it's just good governance.
[2:06:40] Thanks.
[2:06:40] Thank you, um, council discussion.
[2:06:45] I guess I'll start. Um, you know, I thought it was odd. I'll just say, you know, this is only my sixth year. Um, when I first got on, I thought, oh, I have to write this evaluation of our then fire chief. And I was like, okay, I don't know how he is doing right. I don't have people knocking on my door, telling me he's doing great. And I don't know how people knock on my door, telling me he's doing awful.
[2:07:12] As far as I know, he could be coming in four hours of late every day and I would never know those things.
[2:07:20] And as much as I'm a crazy control freak, I don't have the time with my job that pays the bills to be making sure he's clocking in on time.
[2:07:30] And those kind of things that, and so for me, the idea that someone will be there knowing those things and can come to us and say, hey,
[2:07:40] we got this issue, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then we could talk about it. I have no
[2:07:47] question in my mind that no one will be, no one that we formally
[2:07:55] supervised in that way, right, hired and fired would be fired without us all being
[2:08:01] consulted about it. I don't question that at all.
[2:08:06] So, so I think it's a good idea.
[2:08:10] I think it's no brainer.
[2:08:13] I compared to hiring or having a bulldog, but we're removed the teeth.
[2:08:20] So, you're a dog, you can bark, but you cannot bite.
[2:08:24] I like the words that either Jeff or Dean used.
[2:08:28] I mean, the city manager is the CEO.
[2:08:32] You know, where the chair, people of the board, right?
[2:08:35] We have controlling interest of whatever the company does, right?
[2:08:39] we want our CEO to control everything, right? I'm never going to be the systematic expert of
[2:08:47] said, you know, the public works, the police department, the fire department, you know, I can trip around
[2:08:53] and screw things up, but I'm not going to see the day-to-day, we have our own lives and different
[2:08:58] things that we have to do, right? From an accountability standpoint, we're going to hold the city manager
[2:09:04] accountable, we're going to hold the fire chief, we're going to hold the police chief, we're going to hold
[2:09:08] the Public Works Director accountable through our CEO.
[2:09:12] That's our role.
[2:09:14] Right up, you know, if you have the wrong person,
[2:09:17] then we hire the right person.
[2:09:18] That's our role as City Council people.
[2:09:21] That's where I sit.
[2:09:22] You know, I don't see it as a bad thing, you know,
[2:09:25] Tyler and we've seen some comments
[2:09:27] where people are worried about it.
[2:09:28] There's absolutely nothing different.
[2:09:30] Then there will be nothing different.
[2:09:32] If we were to appoint Pam, who's the City Administrator,
[2:09:37] today, city manager today, there would be nothing different for the public tomorrow than
[2:09:41] there is today. Absolutely nothing. It's just the fear of the unknown, and that's what it is.
[2:09:48] You know, when 460 plus cities are doing it one way, there's got to be something right with it.
[2:09:56] that really does. Well, I think one thing the public doesn't know is
[2:10:00] Is that we're talking basically about changing how three people are managed and supervised.
[2:10:08] That we don't have as a council anything to do with how the front office person does her job, but any age or anything else.
[2:10:18] We're talking about three people.
[2:10:20] Right. And somebody mentioned the city clerk like Pam controls the city clerk today.
[2:10:27] It doesn't. There's no difference. We don't kind of.
[2:10:30] I see the city clerk. I don't know why everybody's not.
[2:10:36] So, but like, and then when you you're right, that does say city clerk.
[2:10:40] And then then personally when I look also true of the city administrator.
[2:10:44] When I look at the speed of making a decision, if there was a really important decision that the city administrator would have.
[2:10:50] to make, you know, the brown act states that, I mean, the city administrator couldn't send us an
[2:10:56] email. They'd have to do it one on one or we'd have to have a special meeting. They couldn't
[2:11:00] react to something quickly. Yeah. As a city manager, they could react to something more quickly.
[2:11:05] They could make better decisions as it relates to the city. So to me, long story short, it's a
[2:11:11] good move. I think ultimately we are running like a city manager style government anyway. I mean,
[2:11:17] I meet regularly with Pam.
[2:11:19] I don't meet regularly with police and fire
[2:11:22] and public workstruct chiefs.
[2:11:24] I'm not really answering to the board.
[2:11:30] They go to Pam when they need budget decisions
[2:11:34] or personnel issues.
[2:11:36] It's not like they're presenting to us regularly
[2:11:40] as if they're, it's a separate board that we're managing.
[2:11:43] like with the board SDA that we're on, I can't imagine having the operations supervisors
[2:11:51] reporting to us, you know, it would be silly. You typically the board manages the CEO,
[2:12:02] they don't manage the whole executive team. And I don't think it's about a change in giving one
[2:12:09] on more power. I think it's about creating the system that is going to allow the our employee,
[2:12:18] one employee to do his or her work better, more efficiently, giving them the tools they need
[2:12:27] to do their work the best. And then the resolution or ordinance that we make, you can
[2:12:35] make it, however, whatever structure we feel is most comfortable.
[2:12:40] Oh, no, I'm sorry.
[2:12:43] No, no, please.
[2:12:44] I'm already talking twice.
[2:12:46] Oh, no.
[2:12:47] And this is coming about because like,
[2:12:51] to, we like to talk about like,
[2:12:55] people like to talk about like government waste and everything.
[2:12:58] And I think one of the big sources of government waste
[2:13:01] is like a lot of turn-on, turn-over.
[2:13:07] And so unfortunately, like everybody in this position,
[2:13:13] we're essentially volunteers.
[2:13:15] Like, we're not getting like giant paychecks.
[2:13:17] That's why we all have other jobs to actually pay the bills
[2:13:20] as we're talking about.
[2:13:22] And as Karen mentioned, yeah, we don't have regular check-ins
[2:13:26] with the departments.
[2:13:27] because we de facto end up like delegating a lot of that to our single point of contact,
[2:13:37] which is, which is the current city administrator. And so often times what the recourse
[2:13:47] we end up having with department heads is like, oh, we have a review and it's like, oh well,
[2:13:56] Okay, they're not doing a good job, it's fire them because we're not in a position to do any sort of performance improvement plan or like actually try to when we see things going off in a wrong direction like steering it properly into the right direction because people here just don't have that sort of a bandwidth.
[2:14:20] And when you end up in that position where our Boolean is like, okay, you're still employed or you're fired, that's just creates a lot of chaos and is not good for like streamlining and efficiency when it comes to running the city.
[2:14:41] And so, in many ways, like, we have kind of been operating in a manager sort of position.
[2:14:54] Like, a construct, it just hasn't been codified.
[2:14:57] And...
[2:14:59] And...
[2:15:00] I fully trust that if our manager wouldn't be hiring or firing somebody that we aren't in support with, but I'm actually curious, is there a kind of a hybrid option where the council hires, is more involved in hearing,
[2:15:30] has more of a say in the hiring of these main department heads, but it's explicitly clear that in the day to day,
[2:15:41] they're just reporting to the city manager.
[2:15:47] Of course, I mean, you could tell your city manager at that point that you would like to participate in the interview panel.
[2:15:54] I mean, so we can't put y'all five at the one time, but it happens all the time. So yes, I mean,
[2:16:01] input and hiring decisions that goes directly to her and she listens to that and take
[2:16:05] he or she listens to that, takes that into account, makes their decisions. But yeah,
[2:16:08] you could be, that would be a direct request to your manager that we would like to be involved.
[2:16:12] And so she'll come up with the way to have it done.
[2:16:15] Well, I think to Tyler's point, none of us, well, I can't speak for anyone. For me, none of this
[2:16:20] about me shirking my responsibility to the to the constituents. Come and complain that I'll go
[2:16:26] and complain to whoever I need to complain to. I mean, another that has changed, another that
[2:16:30] would change with this. I would still be as proactive as I am right now when things come to
[2:16:35] me. It just would be that Pam might have more ways to help with that than she does now.
[2:16:43] Yeah, exactly. So I think we do it. That's my direction.
[2:16:50] Do I have other nodding heads, yes? Yes, it's nodding. Yes, that's all we need. We'll bring it back with the formal documents. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, move it on to future agenda items.
[2:17:04] Let's start with Karen Schwartz.
[2:17:07] I don't have any.
[2:17:09] I don't have any.
[2:17:10] I don't have any.
[2:17:11] Jose.
[2:17:12] Nothing.
[2:17:14] Just the California State High School Radio Association.
[2:17:20] That was going to be one of mine and then the other one that I have is since it's a new school year.
[2:17:27] Will we actually be having a meeting with the students at it again?
[2:17:36] Okay.
[2:17:36] council and committee reports. Dennis. I got the official time for the hydrogen bus that's going to be coming this week on the 27th.
[2:17:46] It will be in mammoth on the 27th from 8 to noon. If any of you are up there not down here, it will be at the Bishop office at the airport from 1 PM to 5 PM. So if you want to come down about 2 o'clock, it's going to take a short little ride. So if you're there too, you can hang out on the hydrogen bus.
[2:18:03] I am lucky enough to be taking a trip to Reds Veto on the 28th at 9.30 in the morning on it, so that'll be kind of fun.
[2:18:13] 27th, 1 to 5.
[2:18:14] The 27th, 1 to 5.
[2:18:15] Don't they normally name their budget?
[2:18:18] It's 1 to 5 is the information that Jared sent me.
[2:18:22] Okay.
[2:18:23] Yeah, it's 2 o'clock.
[2:18:23] They're going to be taking off for a little trip today.
[2:18:28] Just a little bit.
[2:18:29] Does it has to name their budget?
[2:18:30] This is just a loner.
[2:18:32] This is just a test so we can take a look at it. This is not our budget.
[2:18:37] The Hindi.
[2:18:38] Don't my god. Don't go, don't go.
[2:18:41] No, no.
[2:18:42] No, no, let's not.
[2:18:43] Oh, it's not.
[2:18:44] Was it?
[2:18:47] A couple things.
[2:18:49] I have been in conversations with Senator Omeriel Baraglio.
[2:18:55] And Pam, I ask Nate and Pam and Ethan to put together some information on the projects that we have budgeted for this year, such as the 300,000 for the police department, this patch electrical resiliency or the upgrade we need to.
[2:19:18] We also have a $125,000 for fire protection in locker room improvements in $75,000 from the city for public safety building, modernization and expansion planning.
[2:19:33] So that it's about $500,000 and she has put a $500,000 911 upgrades request for this
[2:19:44] gear estate budget and hopefully she can get it approved and we should hear from that very
[2:19:52] soon.
[2:19:52] So that's, it's huge because we had funded this $500,000 this year, but it would...
[2:20:00] We can get 500 from the state. I mean, there will be money for us and 500,000 dollars that we can use for something else.
[2:20:11] So that's great news and more to come. Like I said, as soon as she knows if it is, if it has been approved, she will let us know.
[2:20:21] She wanted me to thank you, Pam, for sending her that information and to share this news with all of us.
[2:20:28] So that's green news.
[2:20:29] That's great.
[2:20:31] Are we traveling on Wednesday to Palmdale?
[2:20:36] I have a decimant and division meeting.
[2:20:39] Yeah, exciting.
[2:20:42] A decimant and division meeting before next month's conference.
[2:20:47] And now we're reporting on that to next meeting.
[2:20:50] Also, in that, it's being quiet as far as council meetings.
[2:20:58] Like Jose said, super quiet next in the next few days and weeks, it will not be so quiet.
[2:21:05] We have Eskog on Wednesday and Owen's Valley Groundwater Authority next week.
[2:21:12] Yeah, it was very quiet, nothing.
[2:21:14] Same here, it was pretty quiet.
[2:21:16] And so with that, I will adjourn this meeting until Monday, September 14th, 206.