1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:16,570 [Music] 2 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:26,880 Sorry. Thank you for the update. Uh Shannon, can we have a roll call, 3 00:00:23,039 --> 00:00:32,559 please? Councelor Leman here. Waller. Mayor Bondic here. Council, 4 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:37,760 uh, please stand if you're able and join me for the pledge of 5 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:44,079 allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and 6 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:50,800 to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with 7 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,800 liberty and justice for 8 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:59,120 all. Okay. Item four, agenda approval. Make a motion to approve the agenda. 9 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:03,199 Been a motion to approve the agenda as presented. 10 00:01:02,079 --> 00:01:06,680 There's been a motion to approve the agenda as presented. 11 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:26,119 regular. There's already a motion. So, you have 12 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:26,119 to Is that all right under your Yeah. 13 00:01:26,479 --> 00:01:30,280 Yes. We'll need a second. 14 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:38,119 So, we will There's been a motion and a second. We will add 15 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:45,600 on items 7 A and 7B. 16 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:49,880 uh the council meeting minutes from February and the PUC building update. 17 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:59,079 Any more discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? 18 00:01:53,960 --> 00:02:04,799 Opposed? Motion carries. Moving on to um consent 19 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,799 agenda. We have a motion to approve the consent. 20 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:16,640 Sorry. Have a motion and second to approve the consent agenda. Um any 21 00:02:13,959 --> 00:02:22,720 discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? I opposed. Motion 22 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:31,879 carries. Um consent agenda items. Uh item seven uh 7 to8 meeting minutes from 23 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,879 February. Mic, please. 24 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:38,959 All right. Um, the reason I had this called is there's a mistake because 25 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:45,760 councilman was here and he's not listed as being here present. February I was 26 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:49,959 gone. March of March. Oh, March. Did I say February? Sorry. March. 27 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,280 So there this correction 28 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:09,680 confused me too because usually we add it to the end of the meeting, right? We 29 00:03:07,519 --> 00:03:15,440 turned it we we changed that agenda uh in the past so we could uh um get right 30 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:21,440 to it versus waiting until the end while it's So do we have to make a motion to 31 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:26,720 approve? Yeah, we could make a motion to approve with the correction 32 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:31,400 support. Uh been a motion and second to approve the March minutes of the council 33 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:39,560 meeting. Uh is there any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? 34 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Motion carries. Uh 35 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:49,120 oh, that's what and I forgot to do that too. That we're all goofed up. That one 36 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:57,560 thing just I'll jump back to that in just a minute. So um good catch. Um uh 37 00:03:54,080 --> 00:04:04,159 then we'll move on to 7B for now. The uh DC building update. Councelor Ward 38 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:11,120 again. Okay. So, the reason I had this pulled is um I I guess I just have I 39 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:15,360 have a couple comments to make. It's I know this is really a mess trying to 40 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:19,840 find the title and all this and that and I think if this cannot be cleared up 41 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:25,280 within a couple months, I mean, he's been using this building for 18 years. 42 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:29,600 Um, only paying utilities as far as I understand, no rent. You say that 43 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:34,840 there's a lease here. So, is there a signed lease? And what did what does the 44 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,840 lease say? 45 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,120 Yeah. 46 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:49,919 Um, just that he uses those premises for and pays utilities. It's the lease is 47 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:54,160 it's a one pager and it's not. It doesn't fill the whole page. 48 00:04:52,080 --> 00:05:03,800 paragraph. Okay. And Kathy had stated that the roof is leaking. Um so who who 49 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,800 takes care of the maintenance on the 50 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:10,800 tenant has done that. He has done that. Um because I mean if this is going to be 51 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:16,960 dragging on for months then I think we need to start looking at having a lease 52 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:20,720 signed or some charging rent. So then if there is are things that need to be 53 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:26,600 fixed that we have some money to cover those 54 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,600 expenditures. So that's what I want. 55 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,560 Absolutely. And I agree with her. I 56 00:05:48,840 --> 00:06:00,440 got I'm sorry. then we need to look at another option of getting that's one on 57 00:05:55,759 --> 00:06:06,039 my objection to the building ever had a grant and and right now this is a very 58 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:12,240 unique situation right now what we have is the the PUC is leasing the building 59 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:17,759 to somebody for the cost of utilities even 60 00:06:13,639 --> 00:06:21,440 though it's a city-owned building but we don't have anything that shows that and 61 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:26,720 it appears that it's not on city land. So, it's 62 00:06:24,479 --> 00:06:30,880 and we know that we we've got pretty good now. We know it's not sitting on 63 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:34,319 city land. We're we're pretty sure now because I when I saw the picture, I 64 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:39,840 asked Jeff and he said, "No, this they're saying is accurate and it does 65 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:43,919 not. It's a tax forfeited land." Yeah. And I don't know where it's going 66 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:50,880 to shake out. I understand this sounds really odd, 67 00:06:46,919 --> 00:06:56,280 but I don't know how a lease on this a proper lease on this building will work 68 00:06:53,360 --> 00:07:02,400 or would work. It's it's not in our land. We got a 69 00:07:00,039 --> 00:07:05,759 problem. I mean, I understand about the rack and all that. We have problem, 70 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:08,479 right? And I'm going to get into we're getting into the weeds on discussion 71 00:07:07,039 --> 00:07:14,000 here of something that just needs to be that was reported to be vital. So, um I 72 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:18,720 assume that the ongoing uh work is being done and and hopefully 73 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:23,040 we'll have an update soon. So, talk 74 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:26,089 about speak again or [Music] 75 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:37,960 second. Have a motion and second to uh accept the report that was pulled. Uh 76 00:07:35,599 --> 00:07:44,000 any discussion hearing none. All in favor? opposed. Motion carries. Uh 77 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:49,919 jumping back to number six, we threw uh or I'm sorry, number five. Um it is 78 00:07:47,039 --> 00:07:54,240 sexual assault awareness month. Um and we have a mayoral proclamation here and 79 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:58,479 I apologize for goofing that up on the agenda. I'm not used to doing these in 80 00:07:55,919 --> 00:08:01,360 the beginning. So whereas sexual assault awareness month is intended to bring 81 00:07:59,919 --> 00:08:05,039 awareness to the fact that sexual violence is widespread and is a public 82 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:09,120 health concern for individuals, families, community members, and committ 83 00:08:06,879 --> 00:08:13,039 communities as a whole. Whereas child sexual abuse, exploitation, rape, and 84 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:17,199 sexual harassment impact all communities as seen by the national statistics. One 85 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:21,120 in three girls and one in six boys will be sexually violated by the age of 18. 86 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:25,280 One in five children is solicited sexually while on the internet. Onethird 87 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:29,280 of all sexual violence cases in north northern St. Louis County happened to 88 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:34,399 children 17 years and younger. Whereas in fiscal 2024, our local sexual assault 89 00:08:31,759 --> 00:08:38,800 program of northern St. County has worked with more than 391 primary and 90 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:42,399 secondary crime victims of sexual violence whom reside in the car 91 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:46,959 communities. The program has provided more than 12,700 documented trauma and 92 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:50,959 victim focus advocacy services with these crime 93 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:54,560 victims. Whereas staff, board members, and volunteers of our local antisexual 94 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:58,000 violence program, the sexual assault program of Northern St. County encourage 95 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,600 every person to speak out when witnessing acts of violence, however 96 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:06,480 small, to help survivors connect with community allies. Whereas we must work 97 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:10,560 together to educate, engage communities in sexual violence awareness and 98 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:15,040 prevention and to believe, listen, learn, and support its victims and 99 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:19,600 family members. Whereas a growing number of Minnesota leaders are committed to 100 00:09:17,279 --> 00:09:23,519 sexual violence prevention. And whereas all motans must be part of the solution 101 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:27,680 to eliminate crimes of sexual violence. Therefore, I as mayor of city of Lavik, 102 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:32,480 Minnesota, do hereby proclaim the month of April in the year of 2025 as sexual 103 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,080 assault. Uh, I don't believe we need 104 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:46,560 approval. All right, moving on. I'm going to close the regular council 105 00:09:43,839 --> 00:09:50,839 meeting and open it up for the nuisance hearing at 1809. 106 00:09:52,720 --> 00:10:01,000 First, I'll ask is there a representative of the property located 107 00:09:55,519 --> 00:10:08,160 at 102 or I'm sorry, 101 Second Avenue South. Um, there is not. 108 00:10:04,959 --> 00:10:12,360 uh council, the um in your packet there is 109 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:18,959 a letter that was sent to the property owner. Uh photographs that were taken um 110 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:23,880 and then prior to the meeting, the updated photographs were presented 111 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:30,320 uh as well as some photographs shown to all of us 112 00:10:26,959 --> 00:10:36,720 by the neighbor um that he took five minutes before coming here. 113 00:10:32,839 --> 00:10:36,720 So, does anybody have 114 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:46,560 any comments on the property? I just have one. This has been 115 00:10:44,079 --> 00:10:50,040 an ongoing problem since I've been on the 116 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:57,200 count and we need we need to take care of. I 117 00:10:55,079 --> 00:11:02,240 mean, I don't know what else to think. It needs to be taken care of. It's an 118 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:06,760 ongoing problem. Not saying she, but a lot of people do just enough to get by 119 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:12,000 and then it goes back right to where it was trouble 120 00:11:09,079 --> 00:11:17,040 again. And I' I've driven by this multiple times. 121 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:20,560 Oh, yeah. I know that place and it it needs to stop. 122 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:25,440 Well, there's a lot of properties in town that we can work on. Well, I know, 123 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:31,279 but higher priority than others. This is a frequent flyer. So, yeah, good. 124 00:11:28,959 --> 00:11:34,800 So, is that a motion? Yeah, please. A motion. We have a motion to abate. Is 125 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:39,600 there a second? I'll second. We have a motion and a second to abate the 126 00:11:36,959 --> 00:11:44,040 property at 101 Second Avenue South. Is there any discussion? 127 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:49,600 Hearing none. All in favor? Opposed. Motion carries. I will close 128 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:54,720 the nuisance hearing and reopen the council meeting at 129 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:59,279 1811. U item nine, presentations. There were no pre-registered presentations for 130 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:03,680 us. Um, and we'll move into mayor and council member 131 00:12:00,839 --> 00:12:06,680 reports. These are that's for Did you pre-register? 132 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,160 Well, we do public input at the for the open forum. 133 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:39,440 Um, I will allow it. Please go to the podium. Turn the microphone 134 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:48,880 on. We do generally have a Just click the the square big square button one 135 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:53,160 time. There you go. All right. Am I good? Yes. 136 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:59,200 All right. Uh so I represent the uh uh SD2 137 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:04,880 committee for the strategic plan having to do with economic development and 138 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:10,480 housing and uh the purpose of why giving this presentation now is because uh 139 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:18,320 developments have happened regarding the school sites. 140 00:13:12,279 --> 00:13:24,760 Um, we all know uh that that uh the NTS borings have shown that we've got some 141 00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:29,920 brownfield uh sites on on each side and uh and we thought that that was just it 142 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:35,279 and that uh that somehow these were going to be 143 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:41,200 remedied. Well, as it turns out, the county is not going to remedy these. Uh 144 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:49,519 Patty and I were at a Brownfield conference in Virginia. Uh and uh it was 145 00:13:46,079 --> 00:13:55,519 councelor Wallard's assessment that the city needed to be to find a developer to 146 00:13:53,040 --> 00:14:03,160 buy the property in order to get to remediate the the uh uh brownfield 147 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:10,800 sites. Well, in some respects that is true, but I also know in from a person 148 00:14:07,199 --> 00:14:18,079 at the at the conference that the city can declare itself as a developer or buy 149 00:14:13,839 --> 00:14:24,000 the property period. So, not going into all the the weeds as uh the mayor has 150 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:28,160 said about some other issues here. I'm asking the council to give some 151 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:33,480 consideration to having special session just to talk about how we're going to 152 00:14:30,959 --> 00:14:40,880 how the city wants to handle this land. Uh and it really comes down to 153 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:44,240 some very basic questions. Number one, is the city interested in buying the 154 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:50,800 land? Number two is there are all kinds of 155 00:14:48,199 --> 00:14:55,959 ramifications of the city buying the land and what it's able to do. And the 156 00:14:54,639 --> 00:15:04,519 third point is is what kind of control does the city 157 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:11,120 want to have if it doesn't buy the land. So what councelor Waller 158 00:15:08,959 --> 00:15:17,920 uh Oral March and myself have put together along with uh Jeff is a 159 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:23,360 flowchart of all kinds of and it's exploded that it's it's actually gotten 160 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:28,160 quite large based upon looking at different options and this special 161 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:32,959 meeting would essentially look at this as kind of the basis for asking your 162 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:36,720 questions so that you'll be better informed. 163 00:15:34,079 --> 00:15:41,360 when it comes to making a decision about what you'd like to do with this 164 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:47,839 land. And the last point I'll bring up in context here is that what we thought 165 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:52,079 was going to be the case in that that the council or the city would get the 166 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:58,320 property or be offered the property or the city would reach out to the county 167 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:05,759 is no longer the case. the Supreme Court case uh that that was ruled a few uh a 168 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:10,839 couple years ago or just this past year indicated now that tax forfeit land 169 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:20,399 between 2016 and 2024 all must go to auction. So we don't 170 00:16:15,839 --> 00:16:24,079 have any first uh first dibs on that property. 171 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:29,920 I got this information last Friday. Chris Johnson who works for the county 172 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:34,880 and so uh I wanted to get this information out so that you can make a 173 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:38,880 motion hopefully make a motion or have a discussion about this special meeting 174 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:44,880 because I think we need to walk it through as part of what the council 175 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:49,279 needs and what we can provide as uh the SD2 committee to you and that's that's 176 00:16:47,279 --> 00:16:54,560 really our mandate there is to give to do the research. So that's all I have. 177 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,880 If there are any questions, uh happy to address 178 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:05,760 them. Thank you. Okay, moving on to mayor and 179 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:12,079 council member reports. Uh we will start council. Uh I don't have 180 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:12,079 anything 181 00:17:18,439 --> 00:17:25,039 councel with this. already mentioned about the depot being 182 00:17:22,799 --> 00:17:30,960 taxed forfeited land. There's other tax for land which is the school property. 183 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:37,039 Okay. We also Jeff found out not we Jeff found out about Aurora having tax 184 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:41,039 forfeited land. And so um we want to go to the county. We want to talk about 185 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:46,240 these pieces of land and incorporate the depot with that. And so he and I if you 186 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:50,960 me would like to work with Jeff on this tax forfeited land and see if we can get 187 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:55,840 it cleaned up. We believe after talking Jeff and I talking we believe we can 188 00:17:53,039 --> 00:18:01,760 have more of an influence if we combine all this tax forfeited land that is in 189 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:07,039 wavik and uh town of white and I can't remember was there one in white lakes so 190 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:11,919 we think we can do more if we group everything with the depot go to this 191 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:15,520 meeting and push it forward so I would like the council approval to work with 192 00:18:13,679 --> 00:18:20,880 Jeff on the tax for the land of the areas I mentioned above plus part of the 193 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:27,080 other citizens or council members groups in the other community to do that. 194 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:27,080 That's what I'm asking about. 195 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:33,440 I have no problem in the general consent. 196 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,640 Yeah, I'm fine with that. It's probably a good idea to get it bundled together 197 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:42,320 and get it done and over with and then we'll Yes. And don't expect miracles 198 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:46,720 here. Um this is government, but I give you a monthly report and let you know 199 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:51,000 how we Okay. just like I did with this last. Sounds great. 200 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:56,600 Is that all you had? 201 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:03,919 Sounds good. Councelor Waller. Okay. Last month we signed an agreement with 202 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:10,640 Wasabi East to provide services for the youth activities coordinator position 203 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:17,360 and I had asked how many biwic youth are served. Um and we didn't have an answer. 204 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:22,760 Well, I did ask Mark Gert and he cannot provide us with the number of by youth 205 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:28,559 that participate. Um, he did say that he provides Jeff with the report every time 206 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:32,760 they have a meeting. So, when was the last time you received a report? 207 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:48,320 It seems like it's been a while since we've had that information. Um, so I I 208 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:51,600 wasn't sure. I couldn't recall, but I he said in order to get that information 209 00:19:49,919 --> 00:19:56,880 about how many biologists, he would have to go through and like look at each 210 00:19:54,080 --> 00:20:02,799 person that signs up and and their address to get that. So, I just wanted 211 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:07,200 to give everybody an update on that. Um, okay. Okay. And then a citizen contacted 212 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:12,160 me wondering why Bowavic did not participate in the statewide tornado 213 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:17,559 awareness program on April 10th. The siren should have been activated at 1:45 214 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:23,320 and 6:45 and neither of them were. Who is responsible for that? 215 00:20:35,679 --> 00:20:42,799 Okay. Well, they were really upset because they said they had their family 216 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:49,400 ready at 6:45 to practice the drill and the sirens were activated. That's not 217 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,400 automatic. 218 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:25,600 Are you the emergency management director in town? 219 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,600 No. 220 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,480 Okay. Okay. 221 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:15,840 I can think of a lot better things to spend 20 grand on. I I guess it's just I 222 00:22:13,919 --> 00:22:20,159 mean it's supposed to be a statewide thing and if like Jeff if you normally 223 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:24,720 do it and you know you're not going to care if you could make somebody else 224 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:28,000 maybe do it. Um, I know at school we always all had to, you 225 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:38,640 know, um, and then I did want to say that when Dave spoke, um, as far as the 226 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:43,760 brownfield sites, you you have to have a developer in order to get funding that 227 00:22:41,679 --> 00:22:47,679 that's, you know, that that was what that was about. But then I just want to 228 00:22:45,679 --> 00:22:53,559 kind of know how does the council feel about having a working session on this? 229 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:59,120 Is it something we want to do or how do we feel about it? We want to 230 00:22:56,559 --> 00:23:05,480 set set a working session to discuss school sites and closing and 231 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:10,240 we we do have the on the council workshop agenda here coming up. There's 232 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:16,880 going to be a few other things on this one that are pretty time sensitive. So, 233 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:22,159 um I'm not opposed to a discussion on that near future. 234 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:29,200 Um, yeah, we'll just have to I think maybe discuss put it on his agenda for 235 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:34,880 next month. Okay. Because I guess I just don't want I mean I think the council 236 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:40,960 should all be on the same page. We should all have the same 237 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:44,200 like building. Thank you. 238 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:49,039 Uh, this isn't for discussion. I'm sorry. 239 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:53,480 I know in the past we've been used to an open public forum, but we don't do that 240 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,480 anymore. 241 00:23:53,540 --> 00:23:59,919 [Music] When Jeff and I work with the county, 242 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:04,400 we'll find out more about that. But she's absolutely right. We cannot get 243 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:07,960 funding if the developer comes in right now. As of right now, we cannot get a 244 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:13,600 grant for that unless we have a developer. So, I just want to make that 245 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:20,000 real quick. And I do have one more thing. Um Jeff, is the water wrap still 246 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:23,000 in the pit? Yeah, 247 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:31,880 it isn't. I don't know that if it's actually in the water, but it's down at 248 00:24:28,159 --> 00:24:36,159 the end of the excess road. Um Homes Recycling is going to come over 249 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:42,240 and take a look at see if they call it out for us. Because isn't the company 250 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:50,679 that aren't they responsible for removing that wrap or not? I thought 251 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,679 they were 252 00:24:53,200 --> 00:25:00,960 There you go. Now you're on. Oh, I got a battery signal here. So, oh, still 253 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:06,640 working. Yeah. So, um that was not in the agreement to remove it. Uh we kept 254 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:12,240 it in there in case something went wrong with the new one just so we weren't 255 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:15,760 completely okay. All right. Completely out of 256 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:23,480 water. Um with the understanding that we would then scrap it out at some point. 257 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,480 Sorry. Thank you. 258 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:32,960 Okay. Um so I'll move on to myself here. 259 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:38,880 Um, we definitely have an overall blight problem in town. Um, and I've been 260 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:42,559 saying the same thing and as I think everybody else up here has been uh 261 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:49,679 saying the same thing for a couple of years. Um, I did start looking at a uh 262 00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:55,760 more comprehensive blight ordinance. Um, I know uh attorney Mitten will be back 263 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:59,279 um shortly and we could probably, you know, meet in person on some of the 264 00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:04,480 suggestions that I have. But there is uh there's definitely a 265 00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:08,640 lack of, you know, pride in in your property and a definite lack of pride in 266 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:13,039 the community. I mean, I just looked over in the park and somebody's been 267 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:18,159 disassembling the flower garden and throwing the blocks in the middle of the 268 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:24,799 park. So, um I will get that taken care of probably this week. But, uh again, if 269 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:28,880 you see something, say something that goes above and beyond crime and 270 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:32,480 everything else. There's I mean it's it's an ongoing problem. So I think 271 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,000 let's all work together and get this town cleaned up because I think we're 272 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:39,120 going to have to uh get the rules a little more strict that way Ed doesn't 273 00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:45,919 have to keep coming here with the same problem over and over and over. Um we're 274 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:50,000 uh we're restarting the West Annex uh development committee. Uh we've added 275 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:56,720 some some other players and we'll be meeting later this um later this month. 276 00:26:54,559 --> 00:27:01,840 There's the growing list of fire hydrants that I would like the PUC to 277 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:06,960 address unless that's as far as I know that's the publicities commission's 278 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:12,240 responsibility and uh I mean you've got two bagged up right here. I mean if 279 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:15,760 we've got a fire at city hall or the pavilion I mean we've already got a 280 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:20,159 problem or councelor Ny's house for that matter um that needs to be taken care 281 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,279 of. So Jeeoff you want to get to the PC and get that taken care of? I'd 282 00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:28,320 appreciate it. Yep. And then we'll discuss the PC. Okay. I can't make it to 283 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:32,360 PUC meetings. I've got my union meeting and Legion meeting that night on either 284 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:38,960 side of it. So, um uh thanks to Snowcross Racer Levi 285 00:27:36,159 --> 00:27:43,440 Leval for throwing a great uh event up at Giants Ridge uh this weekend. Very 286 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:47,360 well attended. Hopefully Tai wasn't too terribly 287 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:47,360 busy. 288 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:55,840 Um I went home early. Um, no, it was it was a it was a great day. Um, 289 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:01,279 administrator Jacobson and I took the uh bus down to the Rams Day on the hill. 290 00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:06,960 Um, Rams executive director Paul Peltier set up a bus um set up meetings with all 291 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:10,559 of our legislators and uh you know that was probably my seventh trip to the 292 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:14,960 capital this session and it was by far the most well organized 293 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:19,840 uh well done out of all of them and we ended with the Ranger party at Seni. So, 294 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:25,679 uh, turned out really well. Had a really great chance to to not only connect with 295 00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:30,000 some other area, um, administrators and elected officials, but talk to our 296 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:36,600 elected officials down at the at the capital. It was it was really good. 297 00:28:32,679 --> 00:28:42,799 Um, so, uh, in in in conjunction with I was unable to make 298 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:48,320 it to that, uh, Brownfield presentation. Um and uh thankfully councelor Wallard 299 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:51,039 agreed to cover that as well as councelor Neim covered the east range 300 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:59,200 cap meeting. All happened to be on the same day that I had an appointment. Uh 301 00:28:54,559 --> 00:29:04,960 but uh since then I we've met with IT RB um to talk to the agency about how they 302 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:09,960 can help us out um with some of our projects in town and some of our bigger 303 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:15,440 projects and the brownfield development and whatnot was 304 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:18,600 discussed and I also discussed a few things with Sean Haney from Northband 305 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:24,240 Group from an East Range Powers perspective and uh you know he sent a 306 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:27,520 contact to us uh through ARDC on that as well. So, we've got more to follow on 307 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:33,240 that. It's all kind of in the works. That's uh that's all it's all good 308 00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:40,640 things coming. So, and then on that same note, the uh the SD2 group did come up 309 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:46,679 with a um a statement on housing based on their 310 00:29:43,159 --> 00:29:52,159 um you know, based on the the group's work this uh this last year and 311 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:56,799 realizing that a steering committee has a hard time with uh obviously like 312 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,399 supporting housing developers and everything else. It's meant to be, you 313 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:04,320 know, the strategic plan is meant to be a council 314 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:09,520 action issue. So, u the statement from that group was SD2 wants housing for 315 00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:13,600 families, workforce housing, and affordable and senior housing. Housing 316 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,120 should include garages. Special financing should be made available 317 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:23,200 through government agencies. And that was their um official statement to the 318 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:28,080 council. And uh it just kind of got overlooked uh first quarter. this this 319 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:31,919 and I have not been uh part of that group and councelor Waller has taken my 320 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:38,960 spot. So, um and that I believe is all I have on 321 00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:43,600 the mayor's report. So, uh moving on to number 10, old business or I'm sorry, 322 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:49,200 number 11, old business. We have none. And moving on to new business, first 323 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:53,320 reading of ordinance uh 435, managing flood planes within the city of Bav. 324 00:30:53,840 --> 00:31:00,880 And I know we did we covered this at the agenda meeting. Uh this is something 325 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:08,480 that we need to adopt as the updated flood plane after last year's uh uh 326 00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:13,399 after last year's incident. So I would entertain a motion to have the first 327 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:17,600 reading. I'll make the mot I'll make the motion to do the first 328 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:22,760 reading. Uh it's been moved and seconded to hold the first reading of the 329 00:31:20,399 --> 00:31:29,039 ordinance 435. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? 330 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:32,399 I opposed. Motion carries. So if somebody makes a motion to dispense with 331 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,960 the reading, otherwise I'm going to start reading. So 332 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:44,080 I'll second. We've got an attorney. We've got a 333 00:31:41,679 --> 00:31:49,120 motion and second to uh dispense with the reading of ordinance 435. Is there 334 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:54,640 any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. Uh 335 00:31:52,720 --> 00:32:00,360 we'll have a second reading and we'll tack that on to the um special meeting 336 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:06,159 at the end of the month. Uh item B, resolution 202512, authorizing a 337 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:10,919 grant application to the Department of Iron Range Resources. 338 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:18,399 I'll make a motion. Uh it's been moved and seconded 339 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:23,679 to approve the uh resolution 2025-12. Any discussion? Um I I do have a 340 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:32,559 question. Okay, so we have this money. Are there other grants we can apply for 341 00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:32,559 and use it as a match or not? Yes. 342 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,600 U we'll continue to go after bonding bill money, which doesn't really bring 343 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,760 in the match all that much other than we're building up an existing project. 344 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:51,159 Um we could potentially go after Ir funds and uh USDA uh sorts. 345 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:58,519 Is there any more discussion hearing? None. Uh roll call. 346 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:58,519 Shannet 347 00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:05,120 I resolution 348 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:14,080 passes. Uh item 12 C resolution 202513 authorizing a grant agreement with the 349 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:18,960 Minnesota Department of Transportation Vocal Road Improvement Program. 350 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:22,279 I'll make a motion. We have a motion and second to approve 351 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:26,960 resolution 2025-13. Is there any discussion? I'm 352 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:35,440 just wondering are is there any assessments to the homeowners after No. 353 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:41,600 Is there any other discussion hearing? None. 354 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:45,240 Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Resolution passes. 355 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:55,519 Item 12D, approval of the amenities coordinator contract change. I'll make a 356 00:33:52,799 --> 00:34:00,760 motion to approve. Uh, it's been moved and seconded to 357 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:06,320 approve the updated amenities coordinator contract. Any discussion? 358 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:09,320 Yeah. Um, has Larry reviewed this contract? 359 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,199 [Music] 360 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:21,030 I'm sorry, Larry. Can you say that one more time? 361 00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:21,030 [Music] 362 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:37,599 No objection. Okay. Um, another thing was there are no office hours listed. 363 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:41,919 um that was discussed and the uh the office hours have 364 00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:44,879 been at the host discretion based on what the needs are because the host 365 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:49,760 knows the needs more than the people sitting at this desk. Okay. Should that 366 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:55,800 be stated in here? I don't I don't believe so. Okay. And 367 00:34:53,200 --> 00:35:04,320 then Pardon? I did. She's always done a good job 368 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:10,400 in she does has to go to her doctor. She always and that's what I was going to 369 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:16,520 ask like she previously always she's real good about okay and then it didn't 370 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:22,000 say anything about having the insurance previously some they always 371 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:28,400 had to carry the home had to carry insurance. Did I read the 372 00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:32,480 I didn't see it anywhere in here. Larry, did you see anything about them carrying 373 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,800 the insurance? I did not. 374 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:48,560 I missed it. You know what? I read the amenities one and not the camp. Yeah, it 375 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:54,079 was removed from the campground because it's not in the amenities contract. 376 00:35:52,480 --> 00:36:02,200 wasn't the amenities one. It was in the amenities one, but it wasn't 377 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,200 uh Did we have it in the 23? 378 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,839 I I would think it 379 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,760 was. So I believe 380 00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:24,520 well I mean because that's something that was still 381 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:35,200 um so I believe we can I don't remember who made the motion I made the motion 382 00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:39,680 but we can and I can update a version and find that but we can find that cross 383 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:46,400 from previous contract. U it's it's number five in the amenities 384 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:53,359 um contract. I think if we amended to add number five from the 385 00:36:48,359 --> 00:36:58,240 amenities contract to the new contract. I think if you offer I'm going to offer 386 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:02,640 friendly amendment to do that with number five. I see you have to update 387 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:07,119 the mayor signature line. So I will update both of those. I was going to 388 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:13,839 mention that next. Um is your does is the friendly amendment. 389 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:18,960 Okay. Is there any more discussion? Thank you for 390 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,960 hearing none. All in favor? Go ahead, Larry. 391 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,960 highly 392 00:37:43,630 --> 00:37:46,709 [Music] 393 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:59,359 advis before you sign anything. Oh, and there I'm sorry, there was one more. I I 394 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:04,480 just had some edits here. Um on number two on the contract it says city agrees 395 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:11,040 to pay the campground host as and for such services pursuant to this contract 396 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:15,200 32,000 payable monthly. Well to me that sounds like you're going to pay her 397 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:20,160 $32,000 monthly and it should be in monthly installments or something like 398 00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:22,880 that. I I would just word that a little bit different I 399 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:29,160 guess. And um 3a 400 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:35,440 Just just put a slash between at and in camp off of 401 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:48,280 daily. It's just a typo between and and gets used by campus and get used by 402 00:38:43,839 --> 00:38:48,280 campus. So there just a couple 403 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,920 and yeah kind of had chicks there. Yeah. 404 00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:14,119 That's an interesting question there. I just it was there's a 405 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:19,079 lot of miscommunication. So, 406 00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:27,200 um it was done by several people. 407 00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:34,160 Um and so I recommended from now on that the uh campground 408 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:39,599 coordinator, it's the three of us that do it and no outsiders until we bring it 409 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,599 to the 410 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,560 council. question asked early,000. 411 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:54,309 [Music] 412 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,440 Yep. It was 413 00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:08,800 Yeah. And I'm gonna have Jeff do that for you. It was 30 It was 32,000 for the 414 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:12,280 rest of the year. Not monthly, but the rest of the year. 415 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:22,280 Okay. Does that make sense? And so I'll make I'll get with Jeff and I will make 416 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:22,280 sure you get that red marking. 417 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:29,200 Oh, yeah. That's right. You're going to be okay. 418 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:35,200 Okay. I'll Yeah, Jeff and I can come in and talk to you about it. Okay. 419 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:39,280 Okay. Are you still comfortable with an approval on that, Larry? 420 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:44,800 Are you still comfortable with the approval of the updated language adding 421 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:50,760 in the insurance and fixing the 32,000 to be paid annually versus monthly? 422 00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:01,520 Can I make a suggestion? If we have our monthly work meeting, can we get it 423 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:05,359 approved then so we could just hold off on this and get it make sure it's 424 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:10,560 correct and that Larry reads it and we get it done right. Um because we have a 425 00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:15,720 motion and a second on the floor, I would ask that we vote it down and then 426 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,720 vote to take Yeah. 427 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:26,079 Um so we do have a motion and second. Uh is there any more 428 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,079 discussion? All in favor? 429 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,319 I don't want to influence any. 430 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:42,000 All right. watching and we will need a motion to table. I 431 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:46,000 make a motion to table this until we set our date for the work meeting and get 432 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:52,720 this taken care of appropriately. There is a motion to table. Does not need a 433 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:55,920 second and there's no discussion. So all in favor 434 00:41:56,119 --> 00:42:04,319 I motion carries. So Robert rules of order there. Uh review item 12E. Review 435 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:08,160 the updated joint powers agreement for police services. 436 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:11,839 Gilbert. Um staff recommendation was to direct the mayor administrator to meet 437 00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:18,400 with Gilbert officials and bring back a contract proposal for action. I would 438 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:22,480 like to um add to that recommendation and have the city attorney involved in 439 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,839 that as well. Anytime we're going to be doing contract work at this point, I 440 00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:28,839 would like to have city attorney as well. 441 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,920 Second Yeah, I'm 442 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:49,280 motion with Larry looking. Yes. Okay. There was motion in second. Is there any 443 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:55,440 discussion? Yeah. Um, okay. I I mean I am happy with the police protection or 444 00:42:52,160 --> 00:43:02,240 the service that we are getting, but I have had citizens in by contact me over 445 00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:08,400 the price. And I mean, we're going to be paying over $100,000 more a year and 446 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:14,560 they have suggested other options. And I'm just wondering if the 447 00:43:10,839 --> 00:43:19,440 council how you feel about checking to see if any other department would be 448 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:22,800 willing to provide service. If they are willing to provide service, what 449 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:30,319 services would they provide and what would they charge us? um then we have 450 00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:35,680 some research done whether or not I mean nobody else may even want to provide 451 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:40,480 service to us and and I do want to say I have been happy with the services that 452 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:44,920 we have been receiving from Gilbert but when you have people calling and 453 00:43:41,839 --> 00:43:51,640 emailing you and saying that this is just it's too much I mean it's what 400 454 00:43:52,839 --> 00:43:59,119 436 Yeah. So, I guess I want to know how the council feels about 455 00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:05,760 that if they want to check out our options or if we just want to renew this 456 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:10,319 contract. I can say firsthand St. Louis County is 457 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:14,240 not an option. Um, that's already been asked. Well, it's already been asked. 458 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,960 They don't they don't have the personnel and they don't it sounds like they don't 459 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:23,880 even have desire. Correct me if I'm wrong. Correct. So, when did this take 460 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,880 place? 461 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,480 when we did the discussion county 462 00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:47,240 I think it was during the last discussion on police 463 00:44:40,839 --> 00:44:47,240 service which yeah so is that so 464 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:54,720 I have double checked the dates I mean I I honestly I don't think there is 465 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:59,119 anybody else that would want to provide us service. But I just think if citizens 466 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:02,800 are asking that that you know if we could provide them with that information 467 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:07,160 that would be a good thing to do. But I don't know how everybody else on the 468 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,160 council feels. 469 00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:17,720 Oh all the feedback I've gotten has been uh Gilbert is a fantastic asset to our 470 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:22,880 community. Um and that's in conjunction with you know everybody else. And like I 471 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:26,640 said, I personally have I feel that we're getting a fair deal. I mean, 472 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:32,079 obviously we have to have a discussion with Gilbert at this time. Um, which is 473 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:39,359 what this directs, but I personally don't have any um reason or desire to 474 00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:43,359 look anywhere else. Not that I'm saying that it's, you know, I mean, we're we're 475 00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:48,560 probably not going to find anything cheaper than what we got, especially for 476 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:53,280 the level of service that we get. So all the feedback I've got has been very 477 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:59,520 positive for Gilbert PD. I I I think it's highly unlikely that another unit 478 00:45:55,119 --> 00:46:03,520 of government is going to um actively bid for the service like 479 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:13,200 uh like a construction crew or something like that or some of the other service 480 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:19,040 contracts we have. Um I think it's very unlikely that any of the other agencies 481 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:22,880 would would say well yes we would like we'd like provided well here's our lower 482 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:28,319 cost in order to to get you to come to us. 483 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:35,119 Um I think out of professional courtesy they would decline do that 484 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:39,319 and I'm pretty sure in that position we would 485 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:47,560 certainly go to and I just have 486 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:53,480 I feeling question I have when was the last contact? 487 00:46:52,319 --> 00:47:00,760 Uh 2017 Okay. And if I remember, help me 488 00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:07,839 out here. Um they are long overdue to have an 489 00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:13,400 increase. Is that not correct? because we've been slid into that was the last 490 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:18,800 cost increase as well 2017. So knowing that like I do I I understand 491 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:24,640 what you're saying. I understand what the citizens are saying but personally 492 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:29,920 um because of just because of that I have no trouble with police. I've never 493 00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:34,640 heard anything contrary to this. They do an excellent job except the cost and I 494 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:41,319 think they've been well worth the money. It's not 495 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,319 over as I know it 496 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:50,720 because that's just the proposed right now. Then you're going to 497 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:55,520 go meet with Gilbert and actually get the the finalized number, right? But 498 00:47:52,319 --> 00:47:59,760 that's the just Yep. And I think there's some movement on I mean we can discuss 499 00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:03,200 just the number itself um kind of the meanings of what some of the what they 500 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:07,040 have in here as far as actual rever reimbursements received. I think that 501 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:11,240 requires some clarification. So we both so both sides know what we're talking 502 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:15,200 about when we talk about those categories because there is some room 503 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,200 for 504 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:22,720 interpretation. Okay. Uh is there any other 505 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:28,000 discussion hearing? None. All in favor? I opposed. Motion 506 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:34,400 carries. Jeff and I will set that up shortly. 507 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:39,520 Okay. Um item 12F, approval of memorandum of understanding with uh 508 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:39,520 local 509 00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:47,119 49. We talked about the update in our agenda meeting. I'll make the motion. 510 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:51,119 There been a motion to approve the memorandum of understanding. Support. 511 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:56,000 It's been supported. Is there any discussion? So, this will be accepted. 512 00:48:54,079 --> 00:49:01,760 It doesn't have to wait until a new contract. Correct. 513 00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:07,280 Then my only question was is in here on the new one it says deal like minor and 514 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:15,400 major infractions like what's a minor what's a major what who determines that? 515 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:15,400 I think that's always a judge follow. 516 00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:26,400 Okay. Yeah. that gives us the that gives us the ability to decide 517 00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:29,359 that which is pretty standard. So, I'm sure there have been extended 518 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:36,680 conversations about what's minor and what's major um but without without a 519 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:42,400 very very long list up to discussion. Is there any more 520 00:49:39,319 --> 00:49:47,359 discussion hearing? None. All in favor? I opposed. Motion 521 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:51,440 carries. Item 12G, approval of the application number five for Boic 522 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,440 Recreation 523 00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:05,440 Area. This is the uh payment for the finish or the final payment 524 00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:10,079 for the uh or is this the final close to the final? One more to release the punch 525 00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:13,359 list items and the retainage and all that stuff. 526 00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:19,119 So, this is the second to last. I apologize. Yeah, there is still a 527 00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:24,640 $28,000 retaining. So, um, and there was no reason not to approve it. I'll make a 528 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:29,040 motion. Support. It's been, uh, moved and seconded to approve the pay 529 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:33,319 application for the campground projects. Is there any 530 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:41,480 discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. Uh 531 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:46,160 item 12 I approval of fire equipment 532 00:50:50,520 --> 00:51:01,280 purchase 12 approval of fire. Oh H did I say I 533 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:04,760 sorry item 12H approval of fire equipment purchase. 534 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:12,000 Uh it's two budgeted items and the fire chief uh went out and got two competing 535 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:16,400 quotes for those items and it's recommending that the items on the 536 00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:21,440 ultimate safety concepts or clarity safety equipment will be approved. I'll 537 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:26,119 make motion. It's been moved and supported to approve 538 00:51:23,359 --> 00:51:34,040 the fire equipment purchase. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? 539 00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:40,880 I opposed. Motion carries. Uh item 12. I got it right this time. Um uh you'll 540 00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:48,000 see an attachment from the uh McQueen emergency group along with um some 541 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:52,720 costing. Uh as everybody knows, the firetruck task force has been meeting 542 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:58,640 regularly and uh the fire department worked very hard on spec and Chief 543 00:51:55,559 --> 00:52:04,079 Mackey searched out some lease to own options and other things. Um, so if 544 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:11,200 there's any if there's not any discussion on this, I'm going to add 545 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:15,960 this to the uh the city council workshop that is denoted in item 12. 546 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:27,280 There's no motion. It's just discussion. So 547 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:32,240 you check it was just it was updated on for theformational purposes. So, but 548 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:36,160 that will be added to the to the workshop. 549 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:41,680 I guess the only thing I would say is I have not heard anything from any 550 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:46,400 citizens. So, I mean, if somebody has an opinion about if I want to buy a a new 551 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:50,680 fire truck, then they should be letting us know so we know how you're feeling 552 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:55,599 about this. And um Steve, I don't know if you 553 00:52:53,440 --> 00:53:00,480 wanted to say a couple of the reasons why we need this fire. 554 00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:04,640 Well, we're trying to avoid a 30% increase in homeowners insurance rates. 555 00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:11,359 Um, which we've already seen homeowners insurance rates going up. This should 556 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:16,480 actually bring our fire flow to a standard or what is the term I'm looking 557 00:53:13,359 --> 00:53:16,480 for? Firefighters. 558 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:23,359 Um, yeah, the fire flow you need us you need to hit that 3,000 gallons a minute 559 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:27,800 mark, which we don't have. So theoretically, you should even see a 560 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:33,640 decrease in your uh in your insurance. Well, we never see 561 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:40,079 a decrease. You'll see a less intrusive increase. Um we're also running a fire 562 00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:46,240 truck that is was deemed unsafe by OSHA in 563 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:52,319 1991. Um I was 10 years old then. So um that's that's just where we're at with 564 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:57,839 that entire fire truck process. So, um, and I mean obviously firefighter safety 565 00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:03,760 is is number one, but number two would be your homeowner's insurance rate. So, 566 00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:10,160 and just general discussion with local insurance agents, it is it is about a 567 00:54:06,359 --> 00:54:14,720 30% increase if you lose that that fire rating. So, um, just remember when you 568 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:18,319 call 911, the fire department comes. You call your insurance company, they fight 569 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:23,720 you, they fight you the whole way. So, and I have to back up Patty. The 570 00:54:21,359 --> 00:54:28,720 citizens need to speak up. You know, I mean, nobody says 571 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:33,119 anything and all of a sudden if your taxes go up to the fire truck and we 572 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:38,079 hear about it after the council, that's a little late. You need citizen input at 573 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:42,559 this workshop meeting. And I'm really stressing if you got questions, you need 574 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:46,720 to bring them. I would say before the work before the workshop. The workshop 575 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:52,240 is going to be a council workshop. It's not going to be a But you need to get 576 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:58,720 those comments in. Yes. I I will say on that front, um I have not had one 577 00:54:56,119 --> 00:55:02,480 person say do not buy a truck, but I've sure had I've had people from Woodlands 578 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:07,680 and Voyagers come and say if you need somebody to testify, we'll be the ones 579 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:12,880 there there to push this. And I know we even had a citizen from Voyagers um that 580 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:19,599 sat down with the fire department and helped inspect the truck. So there's a 581 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:24,480 um there's definitely a community uh favor or you know the community's in 582 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:30,800 favor for whom I've talked to. I've not gotten one I've got not got one bad um 583 00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:35,520 bad review on it. So and I'm saying that's fine. I'm playing devil because I 584 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:40,160 know how it works. It'll be the other side of the coin. It'll flip. And so I'm 585 00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:47,079 just saying I'd like citizens if they have concerns or they disagree, they 586 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:47,079 need to they need to speak up. 587 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:53,880 Okay. Is there any more discussion? Hearing none, we'll move on 588 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:59,680 to item 12J. Um discussion and action on 589 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:07,160 citywide cleanup. Um attached in your packet, you did see 590 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:16,000 um the old citywide cleanup um rules which uh were not followed. Um but we do 591 00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:21,040 spend a full week plus. It's about a week and a half now in the spring during 592 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:24,000 the busiest time. We're trying to get a campground ready. We're trying to get 593 00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:31,040 mowers ready. We're trying to get the town cleaned up for the summer. Uh we 594 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:38,000 tie up uh the every person on our public works crew for about a week and a half 595 00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:44,240 now. We also pay uh tipping fees at the dump. We rent a dump truck and I can 596 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:49,440 tell you because I've got friends that have done it. They bring in their stuff 597 00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:52,640 from out of town to their friend or relatives house in town and the citizens 598 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:59,200 of Aabi get to pay the bill for their stuff to go to the dump. Uh there's also 599 00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:03,760 been uh it's it's it's it create it's creating a blight problem now versus 600 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:08,960 solving it as the the pickers wait for the 601 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:13,440 free-for-all. Um and so the I I've spoke with the public works crew uh which you 602 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:16,640 know obviously they're you know they they'd rather not do it at all in the 603 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:21,920 spring and I said well we've got to do do some um and I would recommend that 604 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,520 we see 605 00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:30,640 We're, you know, we're looking at between tipping fees, rental equipment, 606 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:35,280 and if we're going to factor it in man hours that we use at our our rates, it 607 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:42,240 cost the citizens without equipment usage about 608 00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:47,200 $15,000. Um, in in in overhead to do this clean. 609 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:51,319 Um, and I would recommend personally and like I said after talking with the with 610 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:56,079 the public work crew about a efficient manner getting rid of demo materials 611 00:57:54,160 --> 00:58:01,440 which is on our rules anyway so I don't know why we've been picking them up but 612 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:07,200 uh I would recommend we do Monday brush Tuesday um tires off the rims and steel 613 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:13,440 and Wednesday appliances. Um, not the brush does have comes with a small cost 614 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:17,480 at the dump for a tipping fee. However, the other ones are also free and we can 615 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:23,599 get everything done for in three days versus a week and 616 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:26,400 a half. And it eliminates it eliminates all the blight that winds up in 617 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:30,240 everybody else's yard because they run through and pick and of course make a 618 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:35,839 mess out of the neatly done piles that people do put up. So, 619 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:41,200 so you still did want the furniture here? No, that's just the old one. 620 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:44,760 That's the old Yep. That is the uh that's the current. 621 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:52,160 Yeah. And like I said, it creates it's creating more of a blight problem than 622 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:55,680 itself at this point. And it's costing I mean, if you look at our next agenda 623 00:58:53,520 --> 00:59:00,799 item, we're talking about eight houses of senior recycling that take, you know, 624 00:58:57,839 --> 00:59:04,480 two hours twice a month because of cost. But then we're going to tie up our 625 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:08,400 entire crew paying for everybody else from out of town's 626 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:14,000 garbage. I mean, it's it's ridiculous what the cost is. Okay. So, it'll be 627 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:18,720 household appliances, tires, brush, 628 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:26,480 branches, not bagged up because we we know we wind we wind up with 629 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:32,480 um you know, bags full of dog feces and it's not what it's intended for. So, 630 00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:37,799 Okay. And how will we let the citizens know about this? We'll post it, put it 631 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:42,559 on the website, throw it on social media, you can put the paper. I'm sorry, 632 00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:46,400 Mary. What was what was your Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday break? Uh, I guess it 633 00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:50,599 doesn't matter the day of the week, but six foot lengths of brush um brush 634 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:58,160 branches and sticks. Uh, Monday, uh, Tuesday could be 635 00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:02,960 tires and scrap steel tires off the rim. uh because we can't throw away tires on 636 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:09,280 the rim because they gr they grind them. Um and then Wednesday would be 637 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:13,640 appliances. So, and I did have multiple discussions with the public works crew 638 01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:20,000 to make sure that would work for them as well. Everybody was in favor of that. 639 01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:26,240 So, we need a motion for this. I got a question. And then, okay, that's spring 640 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:29,280 kind of. What about fall? Anything? I would say we do the same in the 641 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:39,680 fall. So did want to say there is um a free 642 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:45,599 hazardous waste day um at the dump on May 8th from 10 to 2. So if people have 643 01:00:43,839 --> 01:00:51,040 paint and things like that, you can bring that out there for free on May 8th 644 01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:56,799 to Aurora. We can combine that latest county notice with our notice. Sure. 645 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:06,920 Is there any thoughts on that? That was just what I think it's a good idea. said 646 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:12,799 you got one day to brush the tires and I have 647 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:17,599 and I also did speak with the public works crew on scheduling and I was the 648 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:21,880 full four guy crew and they did say that the week of May 649 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:27,520 12th after um after 650 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,760 uh opening fishing and before Memorial Day 651 01:01:29,799 --> 01:01:34,319 should be a good week for 652 01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:41,440 I mean, I guess the demolition material, I mean, I see people that have 653 01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:45,920 demolition material sitting in their backyards waiting. And I just think if 654 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:51,040 you have a contractor or if you're doing demolition on your house, you should be 655 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:57,640 able to get rid of the the materials yourself. It shouldn't be up to the 656 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:57,640 city. All of us pay for that. 657 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:06,760 Is there is there a motion? I'll make the motion to do the support. 658 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:17,920 All right. There's been a motion in a second. Is there any more 659 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:24,640 discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? I opposed. I'm sorry. What was the 660 01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:28,280 selected week? Uh May 12th. Okay. Okay, item 12K, discussion and 661 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:34,319 action on senior recycling service. Um, I don't have any uh 662 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:38,960 thoughts on this. I do agree that it probably should be updated with the 663 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:45,839 people living there, but again, speaking with the public works group, it's about 664 01:02:41,359 --> 01:02:52,240 two hours twice a month. Um, does take up a lot of time and effort. However, 665 01:02:48,319 --> 01:02:56,960 there probably could be some some uh clean up of the of the list and making 666 01:02:54,240 --> 01:03:01,570 sure that we're, you know, making sure that uh Adam didn't buy his house and 667 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:07,040 there's a senior recycle can there and [Laughter] 668 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:11,119 he's I just know that you you purchased the house from someone you may have 669 01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:11,119 taken part in. 670 01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:18,640 If anybody has any thoughts, I'm going to say the seniors need to know about 671 01:03:16,799 --> 01:03:23,880 it. You like to add more people to Well, I 672 01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:28,079 want if they obviously but we we're healthy and we 673 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:33,839 take care of our own stuff. Okay. We don't wait for pickup and all that. We 674 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:38,599 do it I think I city services for twice in my whole life. But I'm just saying I 675 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:43,559 want to make sure that the seniors know about because I think there's some that 676 01:03:40,799 --> 01:03:50,200 don't know. But I could I could be wrong. And a notice of the utility bill 677 01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:57,440 that you know this is available for seniors 65 and older. I would assume 678 01:03:52,880 --> 01:04:01,599 that is 62 or 65. I think it was 55. Was it 55? 679 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:04,880 Oh yeah. And I'm talking about conversations with Pen Berts and Gene 680 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:10,359 Newton when I when I started here. There's, you know, there's, you know, 681 01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:10,359 you can tell where I am. 682 01:04:12,319 --> 01:04:20,720 I'd be on 55 people. So, you can put a notice in the utility bill saying that 683 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:25,839 we have this available at 55. No, not I think that I do too. Frankly, I kind of 684 01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:29,680 shocked that. I mean, we could do a senior cycle 65 and older with mobility 685 01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:36,160 issues, you know. You got mobility issues. 686 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:39,760 I think that would work. I don't know if we could. Can we do that, Larry? Is that 687 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:43,119 like, you know, we're trying to help out those 688 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:46,440 that need help. Is that allowed? I guess I don't know. 689 01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:57,359 Okay. And we just don't they got right. I 690 01:04:55,599 --> 01:05:01,200 can't walk under my back. What are you going to say? Go to the chiropractor or 691 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:06,000 something. Yeah. So, so then they should contact I can't remember the last time 692 01:05:03,359 --> 01:05:10,960 we purchased a bin or a receptacle. So, we'll have to look into what the options 693 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:16,400 are there. Right. Like I said, pan is probably about the last, right? So, um I 694 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:20,559 think it could I don't even know if we need to take any action. I think we 695 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:23,119 already have a program in place and I think if we 696 01:05:23,319 --> 01:05:31,559 uh I think if we fine-tune it, you know, administratively, I think it would be 697 01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:31,559 acceptable. 698 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:40,200 Okay. Is there any does anybody want want to take any specific action on it 699 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:45,920 or any more discussion? I can take a motion. Well, I was going to say if we 700 01:05:42,319 --> 01:05:51,119 just administrative if they administer that's fine. 701 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:55,280 Take it in place. Sure. Uh well, you want to make that a motion? 702 01:05:52,799 --> 01:06:01,440 Yes, I'll make that a motion. Okay. We have a motion in second to uh 703 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:06,960 um direct the administrator to uh put in place the senior recycle uh with the 704 01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:11,200 suggestions made this evening. Is there any 705 01:06:08,039 --> 01:06:16,920 discussion? Uh hearing none. All in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. 706 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:27,200 Item 12M. Um, oh, I'm sorry. 12 L. 12 L. I've had a hard time. There's just too 707 01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:34,400 many today. Um, discussion and action on the city brush file. In your packets, 708 01:06:30,799 --> 01:06:41,640 you did see the um the reasoning behind the the recent closure. 709 01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:48,359 Uh, and again, this is a a problem for for a lot of people. 710 01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:54,280 I've never I've never had anybody uh not complain about smoldering and 711 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:59,359 stinking out half the town with a burn pile. And for the amount of things that 712 01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:03,119 have been burned in that pile the last, you know, 3 years, I shouldn't be able 713 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:08,480 to look out this window and see a tree anywhere in town. Um, and you know, 714 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:12,480 talking to a few people, they figure about 80 to 715 01:07:09,799 --> 01:07:18,480 85% is from people out of town. We've got contractors that don't want to pay 716 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:26,160 the money to go to the dump, so they go, um, they just go dump at Boavic. So, 717 01:07:22,039 --> 01:07:32,240 um, and, uh, it's, you know, burning garbage is a problem. Minnesota statute 718 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:36,640 88.171 and county solid waste ordinance 45 both say, you know, burning of 719 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:41,960 garbage. Well, that's what we've got down there. The p the pile is still 720 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:49,359 smoldering and uh we are we're seeing garbage pile up in 721 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:53,839 there already. So, um leaves and brush, you know, in in plastic bags or you 722 01:07:52,319 --> 01:08:00,319 know, compost isn't supposed to be part of the brush pile. So, you know, it's 723 01:07:56,839 --> 01:08:05,160 it's we had to or not we is that, you know, city city staff made the decision 724 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:10,400 to close the brush bottle when there was a, you know, the 725 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:15,520 LP bottle that was put in there was kind of the last straw. So, as I can tell you 726 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:20,239 what, I don't I don't want to see our fire department light that brush pile up 727 01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:26,960 to burn it and a propane bottle blows off in there and kill somebody. 728 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:30,480 So, um, you know, I also personally have breathing problems from toxic exposure. 729 01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:34,159 So, I don't think anybody's going to convince me otherwise that we should be 730 01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:40,719 burning things on the edge of town, but I don't know what everybody else thinks. 731 01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:47,920 Well, I guess I especially if um to put a cap there, I'm sure he would um not he 732 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:54,920 would like that. And it has, like we said, it's, you 733 01:08:50,319 --> 01:09:00,159 know, had our tone covered in smoke many times. I mean, I like the file, but not 734 01:08:58,480 --> 01:09:04,759 that people because people are abusing it. I think it's something that's going 735 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,759 to have 736 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:12,080 I will say there's been some comments about staffing and I said, what do we 737 01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:16,480 do? Hire another person to monitor a free burn pile. I mean like that's we'd 738 01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:21,520 be better off paying for your tipping fees at the dump to get rid of the brush 739 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:26,560 be you know far cheaper. So I think it needs to be both and I I am 740 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:32,000 going to say it I think it's a shame that a few people for a lot of people 741 01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:37,799 and that's usually what happens. It's always just a few can't name them 742 01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:42,159 experiences. It's always a few and this is what's happening here. 743 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:46,560 And this isn't the first time it happened up at the rail track. It 744 01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:52,719 happens down at recycling. People are trying stuff. It happens all the time. 745 01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:55,840 And this has just got worse. And even I tested the smoke. So when I stepped out, 746 01:09:54,400 --> 01:10:00,159 they were burning. And I knew it wasn't this brush. 747 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:03,280 And I've already seen already because we closed it. Everybody's going on a 748 01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:07,440 snowmobile trail dumping all their stuff out there. So, you know, I mean it you 749 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:12,400 close that they're just going to bring it somewhere else and make a mess. You 750 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:16,239 know, it used to I saw it with that what happened out there because they're 751 01:10:13,679 --> 01:10:19,600 matches. I mean, we fire our guns off of hunting people and it happened out 752 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:24,480 there. I mean, I saw and you're absolutely right. And it's always just a 753 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:28,960 few. That's the problem. It isn't the majority. It's the few. And I don't I 754 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:33,920 don't have an answer to be honest about it. 755 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:37,440 The only other thing I was thinking is I mean if it's a possibility at all or 756 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:42,320 not, but there is kind of open space behind city garage. You could have like 757 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:45,120 a small brush pile set up there and then the city guys could haul it down to the 758 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:48,960 burn pile later on. So at least you could have a little bit of an idea 759 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:52,159 what's in it before you move it and then burn it. So it just be just strictly 760 01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:57,760 brush. You're going to have a spot for brush and then a spot for like say 761 01:10:54,440 --> 01:11:00,719 compost, climbing footings, leaves, one thing or another. So at least it's not 762 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:03,600 getting mixed. Like that's what everybody does down there. They just 763 01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:08,159 throw everything in the pile and then it burns and then the grass is smoldering 764 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:14,080 and making a mess. I mean that could be an option, you know? I don't know. 765 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:19,840 But it's an idea that at least, you know, you could still have burn pile and 766 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:26,159 have one and then but just move it to a different location later on. maybe. No, 767 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:31,719 it was in my idea at least. I know. They do accept compost right up the road as 768 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:39,040 well. Yeah. Um and I believe it's I think it's about $3 for a box of 769 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:45,600 Yeah. I I don't even think most towns burn anymore since all they all 770 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:51,159 chipper. Burning is just I mean for a for a civilized nation, I think burning 771 01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:51,159 things in town. That's just my 772 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:58,880 But it's currently closed. And I guess my my thought is is you know what we're 773 01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:03,120 going to do with that site down there. I do agree that they will have a problem 774 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:07,520 with with the uh the few dirt bags and I will call them dirt bags publicly that 775 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:12,480 are dumping stuff off the um off the snowmobile trails and anywhere else. So 776 01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:17,040 my hope is that we can maybe talk to DNR too about some 777 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:21,080 increased patrol around here because that's that's completely unacceptable. 778 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:29,280 Well, we have a problem and I don't I don't have a solution. Go to the 779 01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:32,800 recycling. People put their cardboard boxes. They can't even smatch them. They 780 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:39,440 just throw them in there. Would that take I mean, we got other citizens from 781 01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:46,120 other communities dump because they like we have a problem. And I don't think 782 01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:46,120 needs to be a dumping problem. 783 01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:51,760 We also have a uh when I went to throw some recycling, it's that same 784 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:58,800 mentality. I opened up the thing to drop in um you know, beverage containers, you 785 01:12:55,520 --> 01:13:02,480 know, milk jugs and all the plastic. And there's a like a plant rack in there. 786 01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:07,120 The whole rack just thrown right in the recycle bin because you didn't want to 787 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:10,719 throw out the garbage. And I don't know how you I don't know how you fix that. 788 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:15,840 And that the the recycling part of this is a it's a county service that just 789 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:19,040 happens to be within the city of Wavik. And Gilbert's already having the same 790 01:13:17,679 --> 01:13:23,920 problem at their recycling bin. Now they're blaming the citizens of Aavic 791 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:27,679 for putting cardboard in their um recycling. And they said, "Well, we've 792 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:32,760 never had cardboard recycling here." So it's not our people that are used to um 793 01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:37,440 throwing cardboard in. And so it's it's I don't know that there's a 794 01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:41,440 solution for for the few people that are, you 795 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:45,480 know, that are going to be they're going to be dirt bags no matter what. 796 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:53,080 Was there a motion? There there was not yet. 797 01:13:53,280 --> 01:14:02,600 So it did say discussion and action. I figured that way we could uh discuss it 798 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:02,600 before making motion. Discussing 799 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:14,239 I'm learning because then Larry yells at me if I don't follow the rules. Right. 800 01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:19,320 So, and as far as the motion goes, keep as far as any motion goes, keep in mind 801 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:23,719 that it is what is currently closed. So, you want to keep it closed or open 802 01:14:22,239 --> 01:14:30,440 it up. But the current status is it is closed. 803 01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:34,920 Did we make motion to keep we could discuss it one more month 804 01:14:33,679 --> 01:14:40,880 if there's any solution for options and 805 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,880 then 806 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:53,280 closing it out? No, I'm not opposed to you know if we're gonna if we want to 807 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:56,880 explore some other options and and you know talk with our our public works 808 01:14:55,199 --> 01:15:01,600 crew. I I mean I really wish we had a giant fenced area that we could open it 809 01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:06,880 up. I mean we do have a a fence area at City Garage. I don't believe those 810 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:10,560 fences work anymore, but uh I know I believe Qu Lakes and I guess I'm not 811 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:14,239 sure because I've never been there, but sounds like they have a you know 812 01:15:12,159 --> 01:15:17,760 recycling and different and they call it a chipper but they've got separate piles 813 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:24,239 for everything but it's all behind a gate. Um, and in order to to do 814 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:29,600 something of that nature, it's it's, you know, obviously very costly. Yeah. 815 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:33,960 So, um, like I said, especially when you've got redundant services five, 816 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:41,280 well, that's I guess that's what bothers me that they would drive to a snowmobile 817 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:46,400 trail to dump it, but they won't drive to dump it, right? It's unbelievable. 818 01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:51,040 Yeah. There's a motion uh to Was that a 819 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:56,080 motion, Kathy? Well, I'll make a motion because I'm kind of stuck to be honest. 820 01:15:53,520 --> 01:16:02,679 So, I recommend I make a motion to keep up and if a solution comes up, we 821 01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,679 discuss the next. 822 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:10,560 Okay, there's been a motion and second. Is there any 823 01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:15,760 discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? I oppos. Motion 824 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:21,880 carries. Another discussion discussion and action on uh main street landscape 825 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,880 maintenance. 826 01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:30,159 Okay. Um so Jeff, the state, if I'm right, the 827 01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:33,960 state contracted with the people that are taking care of the plants right now. 828 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:39,199 Is that correct? Um right now is over. So they Yeah. So 829 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:45,120 they contracted with the people that took care of it the summer they were 830 01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:45,120 planted and last they had to keep 831 01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:53,440 um there's a through the establishment agreement. Um so they took care of it. 832 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:58,400 They replaced the dead ones. Now the now the cooperative maintenance agreement 833 01:16:55,360 --> 01:17:04,400 with us in mind is that uh all the maintenance is on our shoulders now. I 834 01:17:01,679 --> 01:17:12,640 thought we had until June. Did we receive I can check the end date, but 835 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:16,400 did we receive like a care plan for the plant? I thought that was part of the 836 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:20,880 contract and then that there would be like 3 in of mulch 837 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:25,360 um covering everything before we took over. 838 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:32,159 I know we're supposed to get a care plan. The three inches of a mouth 839 01:17:26,719 --> 01:17:38,600 doesn't ring a bell, but it could be a Did we get a care plan? 840 01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:38,600 No, not yet. 841 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:49,679 I don't know why I thought that was back in the spring 842 01:17:49,719 --> 01:17:56,800 and that'd be great. But I was under the impression it was year last year. 843 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:11,520 uh any you mentioned citizens being interested taking over or taking care of 844 01:18:07,719 --> 01:18:15,920 the area is that this talk or they interested um I don't know there was 845 01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:19,199 somebody that was interested somebody that was involved in the selection 846 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:24,640 process and was on the committee when we did all the all the choosing of the 847 01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:28,800 plans and the layout um and she has a lot of experience with that stuff. Um 848 01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:35,320 was going to check back with her if the council wants to wants to look at doing 849 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:41,440 a contract or paying somebody to do it um to get a proposal from here from her 850 01:18:39,239 --> 01:18:44,440 to take care of these during the growing season. 851 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:59,280 Okay. The other thought I had uh with the summer help, how could the 852 01:18:55,880 --> 01:19:04,400 other could one person be able to do that those areas? Be that sort of 853 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:09,920 responsibility for summer or is that unreasonable to I I think the the labor 854 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:15,760 and the watering and and stuff like that um could be done by 855 01:19:12,199 --> 01:19:19,440 uh done by a summer helper or labor. Um, the piece we're kind of missing or kind 856 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:23,360 of hoping for was the the gardening touch or the green thumb. These plants 857 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:26,480 were chosen because they're hardy. They the landscape architect knew they were 858 01:19:25,199 --> 01:19:29,040 going to be in a highway rideway. They're going to get they're going to 859 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:33,280 get salt on them. They're going to get sand on them. It's a cold area. All that 860 01:19:30,719 --> 01:19:36,960 type of stuff. Um, and this person actually was who we kind of got on our 861 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,440 committee to verify that yes, these plants are hardy enough to with stand up 862 01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:46,719 to the climate and everything like that. Um, so you know the difference between 863 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:50,320 somebody who's doing the labor on it to make sure they get enough gallons of 864 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:54,000 water and certain stuff is cut down versus somebody that actually knows how 865 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:58,320 to take care of the flowers and make them look nice. Okay. So if this 866 01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:04,840 person they might be consultant 867 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:18,960 I I think that would be an excellent idea could find somebody to teach you 868 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:23,120 know who work alongside it probably have to be a couple 869 01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:26,640 um I mean that's a it's a big job to take care of those plants and a lot lot 870 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:34,560 of people don't know like what's a what's a weed and what's not um us. 871 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:39,199 So, so I mean we do we do we do need somebody that knows about 872 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:44,760 plants and then like we don't have anybody to take care of the flower beds 873 01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,760 in the park either. 874 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:53,239 We did a a volunteer group last year. 875 01:20:53,840 --> 01:21:01,360 So, I mean, I I guess I would make a motion that we have to try to find 876 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:06,480 somebody to take care of the the landscape to contract. 877 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:10,159 Yeah. And to work alongside the, you know, summer use. And do you want to 878 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:14,960 include options for doing the stuff that's outside of the rightway that 879 01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:20,239 would be the plants that are by the local library and stuff like that? Those 880 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:24,960 in there? I Yeah, I guess. I mean, if they're willing. I mean, I'll take care 881 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,960 of the signs. 882 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:38,800 So, I think what we're looking for then maybe is a, you know, a proposal from a 883 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:48,760 person or landscape company um as to the rightway and then a, you know, an add-on 884 01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:55,600 for flower beds in uh in the park. Yeah. Okay. Is there a second? I'll make a 885 01:21:51,840 --> 01:22:01,600 second. We got a motion and a second to uh direct the attorney or I'm sorry, the 886 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:04,600 administrator to seek out a landscape maintenance person or company. Is there 887 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:11,040 any more discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? 888 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:16,199 I opposed. Motion carries. Um approval of summer public works summer helps. 889 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:28,960 Make a motion report. Okay, we have a motion second to approve the summer work 890 01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:34,679 hires. Is there any discussion? Yeah. Um my question is who will supervise the 891 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:46,000 uh will be somebody from public works. Um, most likely the foreman could be 892 01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:50,159 assigned to somebody else depending on what's going on that day or potentially 893 01:22:48,159 --> 01:22:57,440 this person that's might be in charge of the 894 01:22:52,760 --> 01:23:05,679 uh landscaping stuff. Um, there might be days when they're doing stuff uh for 895 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:11,040 um for the PUC and working on that stuff. And um there's a couple of uh 896 01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:14,120 fire department related projects that they have we'd have ever fire department 897 01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:18,960 kind of showing hybrid maintenance and painting 898 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:22,400 and stuff like that where it's where it's better to have the have the fire 899 01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:26,880 department directly involved on what they're looking for some kids to do some 900 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:32,960 more help to do. And do you know how old they are? Um I don't have exact ages. I 901 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:36,199 know one of them for sure is over the age of 18. 902 01:23:37,199 --> 01:23:44,880 I think they all can every other town around kids push. Oh, I thought you had 903 01:23:41,679 --> 01:23:48,920 to be 18. Do a rider to do a rider. 904 01:23:49,199 --> 01:23:56,480 Um, and then I guess I I would like to see a little 905 01:23:53,480 --> 01:24:01,280 more planning like a weekly schedule for them because this seems really like this 906 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:05,520 was not what I had in mind when I said I'd like to see a comprehensive work. 907 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:10,639 Hope that's coming close. We'll have the crew flush that out with more detail and 908 01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:15,600 also breaking it up into spring, summer, fall stuff. So, it's not only 909 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:20,239 identified, it's scheduled. And then when are they going to start 910 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:23,120 working? Um, it depends on their schedule. Um, so usually when school 911 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:27,360 gets out, I know the college kids are usually mid May and the high school kids 912 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:31,199 are a little bit later. Um, and we've got some of 913 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:36,400 both kind of accommodate their schedule if they've got a family vacation or 914 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:39,760 something going on. Um, same with the fall. They the college 915 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:47,600 kids end up going back first and high school kids. It just be nice to know the 916 01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:50,600 schedule so we know how many we've got working. 917 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:57,920 Okay. Yeah. The other thing I'm concerned about is uh painting the 918 01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:02,719 buildings because I've heard some complaints 919 01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:09,639 about painting that was done in in the city offices here. And if you're 920 01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:13,639 not good at painting, you should not inside. 921 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:18,400 I guess that I I kind of have to 922 01:25:19,480 --> 01:25:27,000 question or not, but I've seen some really bad paint jobs. So, I think 923 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:32,080 that's a good point. Um, speaking of st and I had my 924 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:38,880 grandchildren have paint where I knew if I had to straighten it up, I can do it. 925 01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:43,840 So, everybody has to learn, but you're doing public buildings. you want a nice 926 01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:48,159 job, you don't want someone have them be done, but they don't know how to paint 927 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:52,760 and and some of that will take some evaluation. But over the years, we have 928 01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:57,719 had some summer help with some skill levels that were pretty 929 01:25:55,360 --> 01:26:03,360 impressive in some so somebody could have been painting for 930 01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:07,280 years. Well, and that would be good to assess 931 01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:11,480 assess those skills. I mean there might be somebody here 932 01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:11,480 that's 933 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:20,320 okay there's been motion and second uh for discussion. 934 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:26,320 No just one just one more and then trim you know that the student needs to be 935 01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:31,040 trained so they chopping their toe off their shoe off. Okay. Uh then or if 936 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:34,679 they've had experience, you know, people who can't have access 937 01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:43,120 and there so there's some organized uh safety training that I know last year 938 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:48,159 specifically targeted to the summer kids. So yeah, getting them in place in 939 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:51,760 April will give us May to get that uh get that train through our regional 940 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:56,080 safety group. Okay. Is there any more 941 01:26:53,480 --> 01:27:03,800 discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? I opposed. Motion carries. Uh 942 01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:10,400 declaration of surplus property item 120. There's a 2006 Ford ambulance 943 01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:14,880 that will be put on the surplus property. I'll make a motion. All right. 944 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:21,920 A motion and second to declare surplus property. Any discussion? Hearing none. 945 01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:26,960 All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries. Uh item 12P, accept resignations from 946 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:32,080 fire and ambulance department. Make a motion to accept support. Motion and 947 01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:34,440 seconded to support the resignations from the fire and ambulance department. 948 01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:39,480 Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? 949 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:46,960 I opposed. Motion carries. Uh 12Q schedule the uh city 950 01:27:44,239 --> 01:27:54,440 council workshop. Uh I have got written down in my notes to 951 01:27:49,679 --> 01:28:00,639 uh hold the workshop at 3:30 p.m. 42925. Uh there'll be a couple of items 952 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:05,360 from this agenda um that are going to go on there. We'll do the second reading of 953 01:28:02,239 --> 01:28:12,000 ordinance 435. We'll do the final update of the contract. Um, and we will, you 954 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:18,239 know, the things I had on my list were a discussion of the, um, information put 955 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:23,040 forth by the fire truck task force. Um, I know councelor Layman is on that, but 956 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:27,600 I would appreciate if the, uh, any, you know, at least another member or two of 957 01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:34,159 that group could could make it that day. Um, if not, we could also set up teams 958 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:36,679 meeting for that. And another item on that agenda is whether it be discussion 959 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:41,360 of the 960 01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:47,920 facilities assessment that was given by uh or not given by but sold to us 961 01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:52,560 by the other there may be a few other items added on such as you know we've 962 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:58,560 been discussing a capital improvement plan for public works equipment as well. 963 01:28:55,280 --> 01:29:03,760 Um that will be it will all dictate as how time progresses. I don't I don't 964 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:08,320 anticipate us being here until 9:00 p.m. So, uh, with the administrator and I, 965 01:29:06,159 --> 01:29:12,000 we'll we'll start to put an agenda together for that. Um, you know, as well 966 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:18,560 as a few of the other discussed items. So, you said April 29th at 3:30. At 967 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:23,760 3:30. Is that okay with everybody? Y, I did check with work schedules. See, 968 01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:27,639 you're the only work person. I'm on call for the ambulance that night, but maybe 969 01:29:26,639 --> 01:29:30,639 get somebody covered. 970 01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:38,360 Otherwise, you think I think I'm otherwise I'm good. 971 01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:49,080 So, there's no opposition to 330 42925. We will set that as 972 01:29:44,679 --> 01:29:49,080 our council workshop. 973 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:56,800 Okay, that concludes new business. Um, I'm going to open it up for open public 974 01:29:54,480 --> 01:30:03,679 forum. If you have anything, please uh head to the uh podium and turn the 975 01:30:00,159 --> 01:30:08,480 microphone. We do uh limit to five minutes. Yeah, just to further 976 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:14,880 clarification of the earlier statement here uh to uh councelor Wallard's point 977 01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:19,120 and uh councelor Nimi's point, I want to make sure that you understand one thing 978 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:26,800 and she and I seem to have a different opinion after coming from the Bronfield 979 01:30:22,639 --> 01:30:30,800 sites uh workshop pardon 980 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:34,920 Patty and I have a different view on this. 981 01:30:32,679 --> 01:30:40,840 Um yes indeed to remediate the brownfield sites 982 01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:46,159 the city should have a developer. The city can be a 983 01:30:43,719 --> 01:30:51,600 developer of the sites. That doesn't necessarily mean it has to develop the 984 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:56,000 sites to the fullest extent. It only means and it doesn't necessarily have to 985 01:30:53,679 --> 01:31:00,600 declare itself as a developer. The city can buy the 986 01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:05,440 land at that point. then the city can apply for these different 987 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:09,920 grants from deed and so forth. And that's where I got my information. So 988 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:15,840 you could make this, you could get the uh uh inference that Patty had uh and I 989 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:19,679 was at the meeting, Jeff was at the meeting, was sitting right next to me 990 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:24,800 that the only way to do this is getting an outside developer. No, that is not 991 01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:31,040 the case at all. Cities buy land all the time. for example, land that was over in 992 01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:37,440 uh in Aurora that they're g they're going to plat. So, but that 993 01:31:33,159 --> 01:31:44,159 property actually was uh I I believe it was bought and the city is platting the 994 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:48,960 land um and it can be designated as a developer and so forth. So, I just 995 01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:54,000 wanted to make that clear. And as far as the workshop is concerned, given the 996 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:58,040 extent that you have for all those items and so forth, I would ask you to look at 997 01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:04,159 having a separate workshop on this housing. It's more complicated than you 998 01:32:00,719 --> 01:32:08,000 think, particularly given what Kath with councelor Nimi said of wanting to put 999 01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:13,760 the school sites in with the rest of the property. I would suggest that you talk 1000 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:19,440 to Chris Johnson down at the county to find out the recent rulings that that 1001 01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:25,199 have been uh a result of the court case here. They should be a separate item 1002 01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:29,239 right here. These properties will all have to go up to auction irrespective of 1003 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:35,679 our wish to have done otherwise. So that's all I have to say 1004 01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:40,000 about that. I I housing is a huge issue, but I want to make sure that the 1005 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:46,320 developer definition is understood in a couple different ways. Thank you. 1006 01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:54,159 I guess I would say that I do agree that the city could be a developer, but I 1007 01:32:50,920 --> 01:33:00,159 just personally don't see our city having the staff or the knowledge to do 1008 01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:03,560 that. But I do agree that the city could be a developer. 1009 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:11,040 Okay. Is there anybody else that wishes to Mr. 1010 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:19,639 Sakovich? You must be happy with it. 1011 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:27,120 You know, we're talking about landscaping on the main street and that 1012 01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:31,679 again. There was an issue last summer came up about these plants that the 1013 01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:37,120 state planted that the corner of 8th Avenue and Highway 35 135. It's a 1014 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:41,920 traffic hazard. You people driving smaller vehicles can't see through it. 1015 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:47,199 One of our local residents took upon himself to solve the problem last year 1016 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:52,000 and got got in trouble. So what's going to be the city's plan on that? Is that 1017 01:33:50,159 --> 01:33:55,920 they're going to maintain the the tall bushes or keep that included? I think 1018 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:59,760 that's going to be included in our landscaping plan, but that will be 1019 01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:03,440 addressed. I will say that it is absolutely unacceptable for somebody to 1020 01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:06,480 go and start hacking down things that are not on your property. Well, I 1021 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:09,040 understand that, but like you know, right? That'd be no different than 1022 01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:12,239 grabbing a chainsaw and saying this tree in the park is wrong and cutting it 1023 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:18,000 down. You just can't. There's nothing wrong with that. 1024 01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,000 There's going to 1025 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:26,040 be disagree or probably disagree with you on that, but Okay. And we got two 1026 01:34:24,159 --> 01:34:31,600 main two areas on the main street. Why people why the city decided 1027 01:34:28,719 --> 01:34:38,080 to plant sod there? I have no idea. One's in front of TNT and V's in front 1028 01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:41,920 of the one right out here too in front of the park in front of the 1029 01:34:39,719 --> 01:34:47,199 gazebo and this parking lot. It's terrible. Okay. You know, you can plant 1030 01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:53,440 all the sod you want and people don't care. They want to walk on it. All it's 1031 01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:58,760 going to do is become a big mudp or mud mud pie. So, the city have any ideas and 1032 01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:05,120 plans on that? So, my thought was to uh fill those 1033 01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:08,000 areas in with concrete right here. Hang 1034 01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:13,560 on. My son checked to make sure I'm still alive. 1035 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:25,199 should be just hit the side button. I tried that. I can't find 1036 01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:29,440 it. Um, you know, like I said, my my desire would be to to pour concrete 1037 01:35:27,159 --> 01:35:36,000 there and I know that's going to come with a little bit of heartache because 1038 01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:40,639 and I I I I plan to hopefully get a hold of some MDOT officials as they are going 1039 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:45,120 to supposedly fix a few of our sites. You notice there's some sidewalk caving 1040 01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:49,920 directly across the street from us um right across from Bise where you know 1041 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:55,199 this the settling on their fix on the road was unacceptable. And then we you 1042 01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:58,320 know we requested last year they came back and said they are going to fix some 1043 01:35:56,639 --> 01:36:03,600 of that um some of that sidewalk mismatching and 1044 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:07,080 cracking. But it would be nice to fill those in with concrete. The problem is 1045 01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:11,679 is when you look at it down the sight line, you know, it's going to take a 1046 01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:16,880 little bit of work to make your concrete lay like this because it's the but um it 1047 01:36:15,440 --> 01:36:22,800 would be nice to put concrete and get rid of that. I don't know whose idea is 1048 01:36:19,639 --> 01:36:28,080 sidewalk sidewalks. There's two areas in town where different individuals have 1049 01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:32,280 damaged the sidewalks. One right across the street in the corner then across 1050 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:35,920 from the apartment buildings. Damn, I wish Danny Bear was 1051 01:36:34,719 --> 01:36:39,760 here because I pointed those out the last year. And who's going to be 1052 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:46,560 responsible for that damage? That's over two years ago now. Nothing's been done 1053 01:36:42,639 --> 01:36:51,679 on it. And both property owners have claimed responsibility for it. Um, and 1054 01:36:48,639 --> 01:36:56,800 they'll be responsible for the cost when when Midnight comes in and do the other 1055 01:36:53,360 --> 01:37:02,000 stuff, they'll have it in the contract. Okay. And then we can add to the uh 8th 1056 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:06,360 Avenue alleyway that a U-Haul truck completely destroyed because it's 1057 01:37:04,119 --> 01:37:11,480 mud. So right across the street from your 1058 01:37:08,480 --> 01:37:11,480 house. 1059 01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:20,080 Yeah, the alley behind you know from the storage units it's destroyed. 1060 01:37:17,679 --> 01:37:24,159 So okay, that's all I have this time. Huh? That's all I have. Okay, thanks 1061 01:37:22,159 --> 01:37:28,400 Ken. Anybody else? I'll wait. 1062 01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:41,520 the 8th Avenue alleyway um on the what is it the 100 block I guess that's 1063 01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:46,639 completely destroyed from that U-Haul truck cleaning out for that bank. So, uh 1064 01:37:45,119 --> 01:37:51,280 that should be their responsibility to fix that alley. And I I just noticed it 1065 01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:54,719 yesterday, so I haven't had a chance to uh I haven't had a chance to convey that 1066 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:57,760 to the administrator yet to put on the list. So, 1067 01:38:05,730 --> 01:38:08,780 [Music] 1068 01:38:09,199 --> 01:38:17,280 All right. If there is no more public comment, I will move to or I will 1069 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:23,960 entertain everybody's favorite motion toart. We have motion second to adjurnn. 1070 01:38:19,679 --> 01:38:27,460 Uh no discussion. All in favor? I [Music]