[0:08] Good evening everyone and welcome to the Bladensburg town of Bladensburg. That is [0:13] council work session for Monday, July 13, 2026. Thank you for joining us [0:18] whether you're watching online or took the time to brave the heat and join us [0:23] in person. Glad to have you here. We are now called to order. The next item on [0:28] the agenda for today is the approval of the agenda. Is there a motion to [0:33] approve? >> I so move. [0:35] » Moved by council member Dixon. Is there a second? [0:37] » Second. >> Seconded by council member McBride. Any [0:41] corrections or amendments to the agenda before calling the vote? Hearing none. [0:47] All in favor? Let it be known by the saying of I. [0:50] » I. Any nays? The eyes have it. The agenda is approved as presented. [0:57] Next on the agenda, we'll move down to the approval of meeting minutes for [1:01] Monday, June 8th work session. Is there a motion to approve? [1:10] » Not all at once. So moved by Council Member McBride. Is there a second? [1:16] » I second. >> Second. Oh, thank you. Seconded by [1:19] Council Member Dixon. Any corrections or comments regarding the um the minutes [1:27] hearing? None. I'll call for the vote. All in favor, let it be known by the [1:30] saying of I. >> I. Any naysay? The eyes have it the [1:35] meeting minutes for June 8th are approved. Tonight, we don't have any [1:39] items under unfinished business. So, we'll proceed into new business, [1:44] beginning with item E regarding 52nd Avenue update. and I'll turn it over to [1:49] the town administrator at this time. All >> right. Uh good evening, mayor and [1:53] council. Uh before I jump in, I just wanted um to uh take note. Uh obviously, [2:00] you can see our finance director uh is not here this evening. Um he had a [2:04] family emergency come up this afternoon um which required him to um uh to to [2:11] head out a little bit early. Um but he uh just wanted me to make sure everybody [2:17] uh was aware and um when we get to the council uh meeting portion of the [2:23] evening um I'll just share a couple of updates from him. Um so uh with that [2:29] noted uh the next topic is 52nd Avenue update. Um unfortunately this afternoon [2:35] it was made known that um SHA was going to be unavailable to come this evening. [2:42] Um, so that does alter our uh plan a little bit, but I did want to provide um [2:49] a few updates to council about where we are um since our last conversation on [2:55] June 8th um which stemmed from uh a pretty robust meeting um back in May [3:01] with SHA. Um just a a very brief overview for um those that might be [3:07] watching. Um this uh part of the street is or was part of a pilot project um a [3:16] few years ago or a couple of years ago. Um we're now at a point trying to [3:21] determine what the best path uh moving forward is and turning uh it was [3:26] temporarily turned into a one-way uh road. There was a substantial amount of [3:31] work that needed to be done just to maintain it. Um, I I want to take a a [3:36] moment to um thank our team and SHA for a tremendous effort um that took place [3:46] starting last Thursday, July 9th, um and then continued on Friday, July 10th, and [3:52] then continued today on July 13th of a joint cleanup um along 52nd uh Avenue. [3:59] they uh brave the heat and uh realigned barriers. Um thank you to SHA for um [4:08] coming back out on Friday and putting up uh the the flexi [4:13] um uh what am I trying to think of? [4:19] » Flexibles. Thank you. Um which which look fantastic. Um they cut down a [4:24] tremendous amount of shrubbery removed that uh trash [4:29] um was was collected. Um and just this afternoon I was driving up there and I [4:35] saw a number of uh of people walking that road again. Um and so uh I I just [4:43] wanted to say thank you um to our team and to SHA um for making that joint [4:48] effort possible. Um it really was uh much needed and and I know that the [4:55] residents in that area uh truly appreciate it and anybody that traverses [4:59] that road. Um so next point uh we shared with SHA um a draftou [5:08] um and and for transparency. One of the things that we were calling for and that [5:14] I think we heard loud and clear from the joint uh meeting was um while this is a [5:20] stateowned road um to get us to um the point of redesign and effectuating [5:30] um the permanent transition to a one-way road. We're about 2 years out. Um so [5:35] what is the plan um moving forward? And uh I think we're kind of at a crossroads [5:41] of do we uh remove the barriers completely or do we um continue with [5:46] this program while we're trying to um uh await the final design. Um [5:55] so I think while there are a number of [6:01] different um options, one of the things that we used as a starting point was uh [6:07] quarterly joint cleanups. I think we saw how effective they were. Um after [6:12] speaking with Derek last week after he reviewed the draftou, [6:18] um I know that their team is is spread pretty thin. Um there was some concern [6:23] about um whether or not that would be feasible. Um I think Pernell would agree [6:29] one of the things that was u most beneficial um and something that we are [6:34] desperately in need of um are some of the equipment um that they have. And so [6:40] um I think we're still trying to hammer out what those details will be exactly. [6:45] Um but I think the effort um this past week shows that there is um [6:53] there are some opportunities to work together to move forward. Uh so we don't [6:57] know exactly what that will look like. We hope to have a draft um response from [7:01] them over the next couple of weeks. It's with their in-house attorneys right now. [7:06] Um so you know that's something that we're going to continue to hammer [7:10] through over the next several weeks um to bring back to you. Um, but just [7:15] wanted to give you guys kind of an update on uh where we were, the effort [7:19] that um both teams, the town and the state uh made and and figuring out um [7:26] what the next steps will be as we as we move forward. [7:32] » Thank you for that update. And um after you let me know they couldn't make it, I [7:37] want to confirm Senator Augustine said he will plan to come to that next [7:41] meeting when SHA is here. So, um, and he was glad to hear that there's been [7:46] progress with conversations. So, I think having him as part of that in September [7:51] will be really helpful. But any comments or questions from the council before we [7:55] move on? Council member Dixon. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Brian, did they [8:01] mention when will be ready? >> Yes. So, um, it long before September. [8:08] Um, so they are it's with legal right now. he hopes to have a draft back um to [8:13] us within the next uh couple of weeks. Um so we'll we'll look over it. Um [8:19] definitely we'll update council uh since we have our retreat coming up. Hope to [8:23] have some updates by then. Um I think the benefit also of um unfortunately [8:29] this being pushed back but um one of the benefits is uh they also hope to have a [8:35] 30% complete design to present to council as well um of of the redesign of [8:41] 52nd Street in September. So um we'll kind of hopefully have a a two for one [8:47] then. >> Thank you. [8:49] » Absolutely. >> Council member Brown, you had a comment [8:52] or question. >> Uh thanks. I was going to ask the same [8:54] thing about theou and hopefully we can, you know, get it in time enough to [8:59] review and look over it and make our comments and stuff. But yeah, [9:04] » absolutely. I'm uh pushing uh I did make it clear when our retreat was, so really [9:10] trying to have uh something for us to uh respond to uh by then. So [9:17] agreed, >> that is all good. Um, and we'll look [9:20] forward to that conversation coming up in September. But now for another [9:26] engaging conversation. Council member Blunt, it's over to the Port Towns bus [9:30] operations, which I know you are very passionate about. [9:35] » And uh, from the update in the packet, it sounds like there's been some [9:40] interesting conversations. It's really not the Port Towns bus anymore. It's [9:44] becoming more of the Bladensburg bus, >> but that's [9:47] » but you know, so I'll turn it over to the administrator for the update. [9:54] » It wasn't working, but I was like [9:59] something, but I couldn't say anything. So, [10:01] » it's all right. That's why we're here. You got You have the mic. [10:04] » Do you want to lead off? >> Your mic's not on, council member. [10:08] » No, actually, you you can start off and then I'll [10:11] » I'll push my way in. fill in the blanks. >> Yeah. [10:15] » Okay. >> All right. Sounds good. Um, so I think [10:19] uh the mayor kind of teed it up uh perfectly. This uh several years ago was [10:24] a joint effort collaboration um with all of the port towns. Um uh I think we're [10:30] on bus number two now. Um and it's kind of nearing end of life. Um [10:38] uh so it you know it it was a great uh collaborative effort. I think some of [10:43] the other towns um you know the the uh participation has decreased [10:48] dramatically. Um I think we were analyzing you know the last year or so [10:53] of ridership and it's about 90 95% uh Bladensburg usage. Um Kore Manor has a [11:00] resident or two that hops on. Um but it it is definitely um being utilized [11:07] heaviest by us. We do all of the coordination of the scheduling. Um we [11:13] house uh the the the bus. Um and really right now Commer Manor is really just [11:20] doing the administrative piece. Um and the two part-time drivers are on um are [11:26] on their payroll. Um so what we had a conversation about was uh understanding [11:33] those realities. Um does it still make sense for uh Kar Manor to um to to [11:42] administer this program? um or does it make more sense for uh Bladensburg to to [11:48] take full ownership of the bus of the two part-time personnel um and save uh [11:54] the 10% administrative fee that we are uh currently paying Comar Manor. um they [12:00] are um eager I would say um to have this kind of transition over um you know I [12:08] think one of the logistical pieces that we spoke about was um whatever the value [12:13] of the bus currently is um you know we could figure out a way to um to to [12:21] rectify th those payments um whether it's um with inkind rides for the comar [12:27] manner residents for x amount of months or until you know that uh value of the [12:32] bus is paid off. Um you know they're they're flexible there and and there's [12:37] some uh wiggle room. Um I think the other piece to this is it does give us [12:43] um even more flexibility about how we want to use the bus moving forward. Um [12:49] both scheduling um and we would still theoretically make it available to uh [12:55] the other Porttown communities. Um, but it it does give us more flexibility as a [13:01] community um to determine what and how we want to use it. Um, I think the other [13:06] side is um this this gives us a little bit of a runway. Um, I'd estimate we [13:12] probably have 12 to 18 months um of of life left in [13:19] that bus with um a few repairs here and there. Um, so thinking about, you know, [13:24] what do we want to do next? Um we did receive a grant um this year for um [13:32] replacement of a couple of vehicles. Unfortunately um I think we we might [13:36] have uh glossed over the fine print um and the uh stipulations around the [13:43] tonnage uh of the bus um that that we would have to purchase um would require [13:49] CDL um and would probably be bigger than than what we would actually need. Um, so [13:56] you know, we'll we'll go back to the drawing board on that. But this gives us [14:00] some runway and some flexibility. So, um, I bring it to council um, as as I [14:07] promised the the town manager. Um, I would do and and have this kind of [14:13] conversation and see where we want to go from here. [14:16] » Thank you for the update. And council member Blunt, if you would also chime [14:20] in, please. >> Yeah. Um, well, I was shocked to know [14:23] that we were paying them anything. Honestly, that's just I was I I was [14:28] shocked we were paying them anything. But the six the $60,000 maybe I'm not [14:33] understanding what is that used for. >> Can you speak to what that goes to [14:38] directly? >> Sure. Um, so that goes towards uh [14:42] predominantly the riders. Um we're essentially paying [14:48] we pay per rider right now even though it it comes back to us in a sense. Um [14:53] that also pays for maintenance gas um and for the uh the two part-time [15:00] drivers. >> But so Coma man doesn't pay for the [15:04] drivers. We pay for the drivers. >> Correct. [15:07] So, >> but what what money was [15:11] » Well, that's not all of the driver's salary, but that's the majority of it. [15:15] Yes. >> But we pay for that. [15:16] » Yes. >> And because they were administering [15:19] handling all the paperwork, right? >> That's where the administrative fee came [15:23] in that was paid to Kar Manor at the time. [15:27] This was, I think, before any of us got on the council. It's just that's how it [15:32] was set up. They would facilitate. You call that number, they schedule, they [15:37] are responsible for scheduling the rides to pick up the seniors and then they're [15:40] responsible for communicating with the drivers and scheduling them. I don't [15:45] believe we've ever had dispatch responsibilities. [15:47] » Well, we know we we didn't I just didn't know we was paying them a fee until I I [15:52] heard it. >> But also, the money that the residents [15:55] pay, where did that money go to? So that goes towards the the the ride [15:59] itself, but it's it's such a nominal fee, it doesn't actually typically cover [16:03] the overall cost of >> because per person we're paying what [16:08] » I think it's >> 30 or 40 per ride or something. Yes. [16:12] » So if they pay $2 or $3, it's not it's something, [16:16] » but it's not covering the full amount. >> And I guess maybe I'm still [16:20] understanding we're paying third. I guess if you look at how much it cost [16:24] like you as we said through co what we were paying for for the ride but it's [16:30] just the numbers just doesn't make sense to me at I just doesn't make sense I [16:36] mean so when they who collects the money >> so right now com men is collecting the [16:42] money as part of their administrative [16:46] process >> so they keep the money they keep that [16:50] money plus 10% %. >> So they're using that money to pay for [16:55] the bus drivers like their salary and for any maintenance um above and beyond [17:02] typically will have to go into our pockets if you know maintenance required [17:08] over a certain percentage or dollar amount. [17:11] » So >> that mean that drivers are basically [17:14] employed by Kar Manor. >> They are they're on Kar Man's payroll. [17:18] » Okay. And if Blad is >> Go ahead. [17:21] » Yeah. The 60,000. Okay. No, go ahead. Make it make sense to me. That's all. [17:25] » So, if we become the primary >> for the bus. [17:29] » Mhm. >> Are we going to be employing these [17:32] drivers? >> We would take that on as a [17:34] responsibility. Yes. >> And also, the bus is going to be [17:38] replaced within 12 to 18 months. Well, I think that's a guesstimation on the life [17:43] expectancy of the current bus, whether we decide to replace it, whether we [17:49] decide to discontinue the program altogether, whether we I think that's [17:54] kind of the decision point, but one that we don't have to necessarily make [17:58] tonight, but that's, you know, the medium-term [18:02] discussion that that will have to be had. And I think the benefit is we can [18:07] get better control over these rides because honestly by us not having the [18:13] dispatch piece of it, we don't know what's being used, how many trips until [18:18] the administrator gets the bill, reviews everything, and is signing off on them. [18:23] And I just think it goes back to something council member Blunt, you said [18:26] a couple years ago, which was we should be more strategic and say on this day, [18:32] this is where the bus goes. on this day, it goes here because it's wasteful [18:37] » to have two or three people on there and taking it here, there, and everywhere [18:42] and racking up those per person fees. I think [18:45] » we have to cut back. We've talked about budget constraints. We can't afford to [18:49] keep doing this. And when you look at the number of people being served, [18:53] there's other things that could be done with that money. And remember, you even [18:57] brought up Uber. What if we did um what do you call them? Uber passes. Instead [19:03] of that, I think another option is, and like you said, we've got time to figure [19:08] out the next step, but another option is we have transportation companies right [19:12] here in the business park. We could easily contract with them to say twice a [19:16] week, we need you to handle senior rides. [19:20] » And then we're not dealing with vehicle maintenance. We're not dealing with [19:24] part-time employees, payroll expenses, and all the rest. and they're [19:28] professionals at this. So we and they're great when we use them for town events. [19:32] So I feel like we could explore that. >> So my ask would be council member Blunt, [19:39] » if you wouldn't mind working with the town administrator on this to put [19:43] something together to say based on what you see [19:47] » at the senior, you know, resident level, what is appropriate in terms of what [19:52] this service could be? >> And I did do that already. [19:55] » Okay. I know that um the the trans the senior transportation would take them [19:59] anywhere they need to go within Prince George's County and that's free. [20:04] » So it's not I mean they're not losing there. They can have transportation [20:08] there. >> Um [20:10] » except for they do want to go to go to the casinos and stuff. I'm I'm against [20:14] it. I'm against it. So that's just me. I'm against them going gambling. That's [20:18] just me though. But I I rather I rather go your route [20:24] because Emerson House that bus can pull up in front of Emerson [20:30] House. >> Drop one person off, turn around and [20:34] come back and drop two off then go back come back at Emerson House about seven [20:37] times. Make it make sense. It doesn't make sense to me. And I know Coa Mana do [20:42] wants no control of at all. >> I kind of heard him say, "No, y'all take [20:46] it over." I got I heard that come out of the administrative mouth um self. So my [20:51] thing I think is I like the other other way cuz we don't have to pay that [20:54] $60,000 can be be used for something else. [20:58] » And council member Blunt I don't know if everyone caught it but the other service [21:02] that she mentioned is the bus. >> The bus is the one free goes all across [21:08] the county. So to your point, even if we have to scale back this resource, we're [21:13] not leaving the seniors without because that's already a service that [21:18] » mic mayor mayor Mike. >> Sorry, Mr. Gray. [21:24] » I didn't push the button hard enough. My apologies, but I was just um tagging on [21:29] to say what council member Blunt mentioned was a service called the bus, [21:33] which is prevalent in Prince George's County. So if we have to reduce services [21:37] with this formerly called Porttown's bus, at least there's still a service [21:42] available to the seniors and that's actually free whereas with ours it's [21:46] subsidized. They pay a few dollars and the town pays the rest. [21:49] » So um >> I agree. I totally agree with um going [21:55] the route with Mayor James in terms of contracting someone which cost less [22:01] » and not only that looking at replacing the bus 10 to 12 to 18 months. [22:08] » What is the bus going to cost? That's another thing. Can the town afford a new [22:11] bus right now? >> I just don't think they should even try [22:15] » or the you can get a grant too. And the fetal brought this up before in terms of [22:21] your question about the replacement. So we did get the MEA grant for um an [22:27] electric bus, but it it's a there it's a formula. So it doesn't cover everything. [22:33] It covers up to what is it the cost of what a combustion engine bus would be? [22:39] » I never quite that. The fine print. >> Yeah, the fine print. It's 75% of the [22:45] additional cost of an EV. So, let's say a traditional bus cost 100,000, let's [22:51] just for conversation sake, and an EV bus cost $200,000. [22:57] » The grant would pay the 75,000, which is 75% of the difference. So, the town [23:02] would still be on the hook for $125,000. >> Um, so beneficial in some respects, but [23:09] also, but we also found out other fine print pieces. um the categories of buses [23:16] that are available. It's really looking at larger vehicles that um require CDL [23:21] licenses and both public works and the current bus drivers that we have right [23:25] now don't have CDL licenses. >> Okay. We really don't want to leave the [23:28] seniors stranded or anything like that. We want to make sure you know that we're [23:32] providing services to the residents of Bladesburg, but at the same time we want [23:38] to be careful how we are spending. >> Right. [23:41] » Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, [23:43] » and as you said, we don't want to leave them without services, but the bus is [23:47] there and >> they're not out of service because they [23:50] a lot of metro access and also it takes them wherever they want to go. I mean, [23:54] so they're they're not left out of any services at all. And that's the good [23:58] thing about >> the transportation now. [24:02] » I I just get get rid of it. I mean honestly get just that's just what I'm [24:07] saying because I can't understand that 60,000 and they're paying and then he [24:11] doesn't well >> I know co man co man probably listening [24:16] they don't want to pay for nothing >> I agree [24:19] » I'm just sorry I had to say >> I think yeah [24:22] » I'm sorry I just had to say it okay council member hold on council member [24:26] Brown and then back to >> she was waiting for a bit yeah thank [24:31] thanks but but yeah because we we've been talking about this for for a while [24:35] and it's like make it make sense you know but and probably initially when you [24:39] know when the agreement you know came into place it it did it didn't make [24:44] sense but now because um as we had discussed before it's like you know you [24:50] have a companies here and and they have different size buses and you know you [24:55] know we one and I don't know if you if we will talk about that too but one week [24:58] we may need the big bus and next week we may may need only a 10 passenger bus I [25:03] mean just having that flexibility you know, working with the with the with [25:06] the company that that's their business. It's what they do. So, that makes sense. [25:11] And like you said, we're not leaving the um our seniors. We're not leaving them, [25:15] you know, stranded or whatever without transportation, [25:18] » you know. Absolutely. you know, and then and it [25:22] would provide, you know, provide better service, you know, you know, I I believe [25:26] to the to the residents and and then from a budget standpoint, yeah, it [25:30] would, you know, you know, take that that piece off of our books. Yeah. Off [25:34] of books for reduction and um and I think that's yeah, would be wise. But [25:39] although we're just kind of having a conversation about it right now, but [25:41] yeah. >> And one thing that you said, council [25:44] member, it kind of sparked a thought. um would it even be possible if we had some [25:49] sort of public private partnership with a transportation company? So we say [25:54] we've gotten this grant. Could we pass it through to them? So they pay the [25:59] difference toward the vehicle. So, we're essentially donating the 75,000, let's [26:04] say, >> and then they pay the difference because [26:07] it's helping their fleet regardless >> and giving them greater flexibility [26:12] because it is an EV and then work out some sort of contractual partnership for [26:17] X number of years and then we revisit it after that point. So, that's where I'm [26:22] going. Save the town money, you know, still be able to help the residents. We [26:26] don't want to give back grant money to the state because that you can get [26:29] dinged when you go to apply the next time. So, I don't want to lose that. But [26:34] maybe there's a path forward that just doesn't have us paying for this and, you [26:40] know, not using those resources more wisely. [26:43] » Yeah, cuz that fine print there's it does, you know, it's still costing the [26:47] town more more money. So, >> give us [26:52] » Council Member McBride, thank you for waiting your turn. [26:56] Thank you. Um, my only question is, so this is supposed to service the seniors [27:02] or does it can it service the different apartment complexes inside of [27:07] Leadensburg? >> If they're senior, [27:10] » as long as they're seniors, I mean, >> traditionally, Sean and Pernell, you're [27:14] going to have to help me, but I think it was more so geared towards seniors. [27:18] » Yes, it was. And um I think there may have been special [27:24] circumstances where if there was a town event and we needed transportation then [27:28] we could reach out and ask them to pick up people but the way it was set up with [27:32] the four towns back in the day was primarily for senior [27:36] » foren. Okay. >> Mhm. [27:38] » I had a question I'll hold. [27:41] » Okay. But you know like when I found out that they were not paying to get on the [27:45] bus it I was very upset. that I had to call call [27:51] Miss Blue. You know, y'all know I say I like to say names. Um, Miss Blue and let [27:56] her know why did this her senior club didn't think that they had to pay [28:01] » didn't Well, we was told No, I don't know who told y'all that cuz y'all have [28:05] to pay like everybody else cuz you're riding the bus because she was under [28:09] understanding by Ka Mana that they didn't have to pay. [28:13] » So, they start paying. >> I have a [28:17] Go ahead, council member Brown. Yeah, because it was under membership [28:21] » and um >> um and and you know to that point with [28:26] the council member McBry, you know, once we look at it and restructure it or [28:30] something, you know, it it may be able to like special events occasions and you [28:35] do put some modifications in there where it can kind of service, [28:40] you know, some of the other buildings in the town as well. This one. [28:45] » Yeah, that's going to be have to be really restricted because [28:48] » Yeah, >> I'm just saying. [28:53] » No, go ahead, Mr. Hall. >> That's that's like microphone be a [28:57] tricky thing. You can tell him no, but you can tell him. I mean, you know, so [29:01] that's I think that's why when it came out years and years ago, it was strictly [29:06] appointed to seniors. >> Makes sense. And Mr. Wood, [29:10] » well, I was just going to say so a couple of things. one, yeah, this would [29:14] have greater flexibility because when it was initially purchased, it was used, I [29:18] believe state money was used um and so the requirements and covenants around it [29:23] required that it be used predominantly for seniors. But when we purchased the [29:27] second bus, it was with local dollars and so there's greater flexibility and [29:34] those requirements no longer apply. Um, so if the town were to take over [29:39] ownership, we would be able to do with it as we desired. I I think there would [29:45] be a a desire to, you know, keep with some spirit. If the other communities [29:52] all of a sudden ridership spiked and they wanted, then then that um would [29:57] would be something to look at. Um, and then two, um, I think to the point that [30:01] the mayor made a while back about, um, Uber and other ride shares, um, I was at [30:07] a conference a few years ago, and I know that there are some communities that, [30:12] um, have done that and set up, um, various different structures with Uber [30:15] and and other types where, um, individuals over a certain age can get x [30:20] amount of dollars or an Uber will take you within x amount of miles of a [30:24] community for free or, you know, there's a number of different arrangements. Um, [30:28] so if that's something that the town wanted to look at, we wouldn't be uh the [30:32] first community to do that and they have an infrastructure set up to partner with [30:36] uh municipal organizations to set things like that up. So, just wanted to [30:40] » I know we we've been on this for a long time, but um they will have like a [30:44] setback because some Uber drivers do not help you with your packages and seniors [30:49] need help and I see they don't help with the wheelchairs, the walkers, they don't [30:53] help. They just it's it's crazy but it's up to the Yeah. So that's the only thing [30:59] I would say. >> So um Brian what if um Kar mana decided [31:03] to withdraw before we come to some conclusion [31:06] and >> my other part question [31:13] » and my other question is who covers the insurance for the bus? Is it the town or [31:18] Kar Manor? >> Uh currently Coar Manor covers the [31:22] insurance. um that's built into >> okay [31:25] » again all of it is kind of per rated based on usage. So [31:29] » there's the aggregate cost and then per ride it's broken down. So we're still [31:33] paying for a significant portion of the insurance. Um and to your first point if [31:39] commer I'm not saying they basically said that [31:42] they're walking away but they >> sounds that way. [31:47] » They basically said they're walking away. So um [31:52] yeah >> but are they paying for the insurance or [31:55] we paying for the insurance? >> So the insurance is uh so the insurance [31:58] is technically with com manner but >> the aggregate cost of the bus per year [32:04] is broken down per rider and so we're still paying for a significant portion [32:08] of the insurance. We're just paying it through the per ride cost. Right. [32:13] » Um so that's part of the 2,000 >> if I get that $60,000 still not making [32:17] sense to me. >> Yeah. So, I think we cuz we could talk [32:21] about this in circles. I think we're at the point where there's agreement that [32:25] we want to re-evaluate this because we don't think it's the best use of town [32:30] dollars. >> Getting it under the town's uh realm of [32:34] responsibility makes sense while we're figuring out with council member Blunt a [32:38] path forward. phasing it out is certainly an option given we have the [32:43] bus, but also um an option is pursuing the grant and possibility of partnering [32:51] with a local business to see if that's even possible. If the answer is no, then [32:55] we just have to send a letter to MEA saying we can't accept the grant, you [32:59] know, due to financial constraints, we can't keep our commitment and just again [33:05] move forward with consolidating this down and collapsing the service cuz it's [33:09] just extremely expensive. >> So I think that's where we are in terms [33:13] of when you send us the summary from the meeting, there's agreement that we [33:18] cannot continue. >> It's not you, it's us. [33:23] So, I'll draft up um >> a formal process with comar manner about [33:29] how we're going to execute this um and bring that before it would have to go [33:35] before both councils. >> Thank you, Council Member Blunt for the [33:38] last word. >> I like the um the idea that you said [33:44] because for the lack of not saying anything else, [33:48] we done with that process. Let's do something. Let's just do something new. [33:54] We done with that. >> I agree. [33:57] » Yeah, I agree. There was a a higher demand at the time. That demand just [34:01] isn't there anymore to justify the cost. So, yeah, we have young seniors who are [34:06] driving themselves around and they're walking through the community and all of [34:10] that. So, we have to get with the times. >> All right. So, speaking of getting with [34:15] the times, PAL's project poster presentation is next up on the agenda. [34:20] Um I'll turn it over to you town administrator Wood. [34:24] » Yeah. So um they have been making their way around the port towns. They were [34:29] supposed to come up to us next. Um they the boards have well they they've [34:35] disappeared. We'll we'll find them. Uh not from us. Uh they were recently with [34:39] Cottage City. Um but are you guys familiar with the PAL project that took [34:44] place? Um I guess was last semester, so last [34:50] spring. Um and some of the designs um for the Porttown communities. [34:57] Uh maybe not. Okay. So, uh a recap of what the PAL Project is um and and what [35:02] they do. So, the PAL Project um is a partnership with the University of [35:07] Maryland um and they work with undergrad and graduate students um on a number of [35:13] different uh projects. Right. So um towns, municipalities, yep, all across [35:19] um uh the state can submit uh to um for the PAL project for them to do any [35:27] number of things. Um it can be um something like we had they can do [35:34] engineering, they can do um statistical analysis, budget breakdowns. Um and they [35:40] have students work on these projects throughout um throughout the semester. [35:45] Um each project typically costs um about $10,000. [35:50] Um and part of that goes towards the cost of executing the project, whether [35:55] they need to purchase data sets, if there's travel required for the [35:59] students, whatever they may be. Um and then part of that goes to offset the um [36:03] administrative uh cost for their adviser whether that's um a professor or or [36:08] whomever it may be. Um, one of the projects that um was grant funded um [36:14] last year was the uh placemaking and design for uh the Port Towns communities [36:21] um at different um I guess you could say uh prominent locations um in in each [36:29] community that connected each of each of the communities. So, uh, for us, we had [36:34] a couple of different bridges. Um, and so what it was was, um, thinking about [36:40] how do we denote these this as a Porttown community. Um, and so, uh, they [36:46] designed, uh, these kind of beautiful pocket parks with, um, similar colors [36:51] of, uh, yellow, orange, purple, and blue, I believe it was. Um, and each [36:57] community had a slightly different design and a different location, but it [37:00] created the through line that these were all Porttown communities. Um, there's [37:04] some beautiful renderings that are on posters that we were supposed to get [37:08] tonight. Um, unfortunately, they're not here. Um, but the the reason that it's [37:13] also um kind of timesensitive is um we received uh grant funding again um from [37:23] from the state. Um and part of what uh BCC was looking at was do we want to [37:32] invest some of those dollars um into the next phase of um this placemaking and [37:39] and and these designs which would be kind of the engineering aspect of it um [37:44] and and understanding what the fabrication uh of these types of pocket [37:49] parks um would cost. We know that each one would be, you know, north of [37:54] probably $100,000, but this would be the next step in that in that process. Um, [37:59] and so >> h [38:06] so um you know that PAL's project would probably be a little bit more uh [38:12] expensive, closer to $30,000. Um but again, it's grant funded um and would [38:18] kind of be the through line. there's quite a bit of interest in it. Um so [38:22] what I would propose is for the visuals to you to actually be able to see um [38:27] what was done by these young people which was quite impressive um is to [38:32] bring that to uh to the retreat. Um so that you guys will be able to see that. [38:37] Um each town is kind of talking about the elements that they liked, what they [38:42] may not like. Um, and so that will go into the input um, as we prepare the [38:47] next PAL's uh, request for this fall. >> Hopefully, [38:53] » thank you for that overview. Any questions or comments for the town [38:56] administrator? >> I think we look forward to seeing the [39:00] visuals at the retreat. Council member Dixon. [39:04] » Thank you, Madam Mayor. in regards to this um pilot project. [39:08] » Mhm. >> Um what services the town has to offer? [39:11] Does it has to provide public works, public safety or anything like that? [39:16] » Nope. >> Okay. [39:17] » Um completely. So the next phase would be completely done by um the students. [39:22] Um this would be uh for us is actually in a in a public location already, [39:27] something that we already take care of. Um this would just be a redesign. [39:31] » How is this how is this figure determined? [39:35] the $30,000 or the >> the Yeah. [39:41] » Uh that's not in the packet. I think what you're looking at is for the Hamlet [39:45] Woods project. The next item, >> we're not there yet. Sorry. [39:49] » Sorry. I think >> almost there. Almost there. A couple [39:51] more items. [39:55] » Yes. Yes. We will we will get to that. >> All right. Um, [39:59] » so if there are no more questions, we can drop down get closer to it under [40:04] town managers report. >> Yep. [40:07] Um, yeah. So, we can just we can jump down [40:11] to that. Um, >> Oh, yeah. [40:12] » So, so the pilot program um there's a briefing in your packet there. [40:19] Um, so the Hamlet Woods project um >> that's the one I was starting. [40:24] » Yeah. So this has been one that has been um ongoing for a number of years now. [40:31] Um I think they originally came to the town almost this time last year with a [40:36] proposal um for payment in lie um just to rehash this is uh 59 units of um [40:45] workforce housing um that will be available um and Sean correct me if I'm [40:50] wrong but they're going to be ready end of or mid August [40:54] » mid August um actually I wrote through the property today they're probably I'd [40:58] say 85% complete Um they're working on the last section [41:02] and mid August is when their final grand opening is supposed to be. [41:08] » Okay. Um so they are um well on their way and and well past uh substantial [41:15] completion at this point um which is very exciting. This gives a breakdown of [41:19] kind of where the funding came from. There's been um significant investment [41:24] from the state, from the county uh and private dollars. Um what they were [41:29] looking for is um essentially a payment in lie of taxes. Um they received um a [41:38] similar deal or structured a similar deal with the county um which was [41:43] essentially a 50% reduction um in their overall tax rate um and they have now [41:50] come to the town asking for or proposing something similar. Um [41:56] what we have before us is um two different options. Um what was proposed [42:02] by um HT Woods was essentially $500 [42:09] per unit. Um and so sorry, let me back up a little [42:14] bit. So looking at the assessed value, um and this folds into uh the [42:20] recommendation that I that I have. Um these are based on 2023 numbers and so [42:26] it was estimated that the project would be assessed at approximately almost $8 [42:30] million $7,972,000. [42:34] Um what that was proposed was again 500 [42:39] unit or $500 per unit um a as a pilot with an escalator of uh 2% [42:49] um at the 110 20 and 30 year mark. Um what [42:56] we countered at or what we're proposing to counter at is a 600 unit uh dollar [43:03] per unit uh starting threshold um with the same escalator. Um and so it [43:09] essentially breaks down to um the structure that they had with the county [43:13] is about a 50% reduction. Um they're asking for essentially the same thing [43:18] from the town. uh the numbers that are proposed here are closer to 43% [43:24] reduction um which is still fairly favorable. Um and the reason I think [43:29] there's um value in what the town is proposing is it goes back to the [43:36] original assessed value dollar that these numbers are generated off of uh [43:41] which are 2023. We all know that the assessed value since 2023 has gone up [43:46] significantly more. Um we estimate that the value is probably closer to $10 to [43:52] $12 million at this point. Um which would if we were to restructure this [43:56] deal in today's terms would dramatically increase the per unit cost um versus [44:02] what you see here. So a 43% um structured deal um is still um I [44:12] think better than if they were to go out and do a market assessment today. Um, [44:16] and even if they even if we agreed to 50%, it would still probably be higher [44:20] than um than what we're proposing here. Um, [44:25] so that's the the broad strokes of it. Um, Suelan uh and part of the reason [44:30] that this took a year to uh get to this point is um Suelan had to dig through uh [44:38] the state uh code to find where we would be able to actually do this. um the [44:45] language that was used at the county level was specific to the county um and [44:48] did not allow municipalities to set up a pilot program. And so um there was a [44:54] great deal of digging that was involved um and and obviously with a number of [44:59] other things that were um on our town attorney's plate. Um this kept getting [45:04] pushed back, but um we did eventually find it or she did eventually find it. [45:09] Um so that's what's here before you. Um there is [45:14] a little bit of a clock um given the the uh status of the project at this point. [45:20] Um but I wanted to bring this up for conversation and discussion and then um [45:27] we would use that as the final framework and again um with a desire not to push [45:33] this off to um September. um if we had the final framework, if this is what [45:39] council was okay with, we would draft this and do a final vote um at at the [45:44] retreat if that's something that council wished to do. [45:49] » So, thank you for that overview of the pilot project. Council, any comments or [45:55] questions regarding the um proposed payment? [46:00] » I have a question. >> I have a few, but I'll let Go ahead, [46:03] Council Member Dixon. Thank you, Madame Mayor Brian. Um, in [46:08] regards to [46:11] um what happen if a if a property sold to [46:16] another owner, how would how would that affect um the pilot? Would it be does it [46:22] does the pilot still stay in effect? >> Great question. Um that would be [46:27] language that would be included in the contract. Typically, it stays with the [46:30] property, not the owners. um in in my experience [46:34] » and this is a full 30 years, right? >> Correct. [46:38] » Okay. And did you mention how how does the 600 unit deter figure determined? [46:44] Did you mention that how it was determined? So, the $600 unit, $600 per [46:52] unit, um to be honest, was determined uh before I got here, but it is essentially [46:58] it the idea behind it was um to kind of find a middle ground between what um [47:05] what Hamlet Woods was proposing um which was 50% um reducing it but still [47:12] allowing the project to go forward. Um and I think at the time when it was [47:15] originally proposed um they had built their financial model around receiving [47:20] um a certain level of of uh relief in [47:25] taxes. And so um yeah, so this I think is that attempt at meeting the middle [47:31] ground. >> So council member, this is to tag on to [47:35] that. So when they came to the meeting a year or two ago, they were specifically [47:39] advocating for more financial support from the town. Um, we did not agree to [47:46] that. We said we could be open and discuss what the town could do, but they [47:50] were trying to get their financing together. So, the numbers you see here [47:54] about how their financing is stacked through Prince George's County Housing [47:58] Investment Trust Fund loan, all those things, those loans that you see in the [48:02] um first paragraph >> that those are the things that they [48:05] worked on to line up their financing. Okay. And then in going to the county, [48:10] the county passed legislation CR--036 2023 giving them authority to also give [48:18] them that 50% tax relief. And so given that the county the county's budget is [48:25] not Bladensburg's budget, so we cannot afford a 50% you know reduction in that [48:31] revenue um from taxes. I think what veto and Mr. would put together here [48:38] compromising saying we can't go as low as 500. We could potentially consider [48:43] 600 per unit because now our services have increased. This is a rental. Sorry, [48:50] my sinuses are on 1,000 right now. >> The um services that the town is [48:56] offering are now what they cost two or three years ago. That's one. Number two, [49:01] we're now doing apartment rental inspections that are led by code [49:04] enforcement. That is another level of service that we're providing. Typically, [49:09] whenever there's multifamily housing in the town, cost for service for public [49:13] safety goes up. Same thing for emergency services for the fire department. So, [49:19] the reason we can't go as low as what they're asking for in this first column [49:24] » is because those services come at a cost to us [49:28] » and we can't provide them at a deficit. And so I think and veto you know he's [49:34] good with these numbers. Mr. Tanelli I think and Mr. Wood did a good job of [49:38] saying what we can do is offer you 10 or 2% for years 1 through 10. We can go up [49:45] to 3% for you know years 11 through 20 and then the escalation would be 4% for [49:51] years 21 to 30. And then they just broke out. Here's what we would get over the [49:56] 30 years on our formula versus their formula. Our formula, yes, they would be [50:03] paying 1.5 almost 1.6. >> Mhm. [50:07] » But when you look at the services that they're getting over 30 years, it more [50:12] than justifies us coming in at that rate to negotiate. [50:17] Does that sort of help? >> Thanks. Mhm. [50:20] » And and the other absolutely everything that the mayor said and typically these [50:24] are these are agreed to at the outset. And so that's why you see all the [50:29] breakdown of where they're receiving the dollar amounts because normally this [50:34] kind of looks more like a credit enhancement agreement. Um and so that [50:38] helps with the lending on the private side to see that um government entities [50:43] are are backing this project. So, um I think that was the original thought, but [50:48] they were still able to get the financing needed to to make this project [50:51] a reality. >> So, will the pilot will it cover the um [50:58] public safety and code enforcement? [51:03] » Over overall, >> yeah. [51:05] » No. >> No. Okay. [51:06] » No. But any new development >> typically doesn't. That's [51:12] » Yeah. when you're looking longterm, that's why you always want that balance [51:15] of businesses and and other things that are that are not going to drive up calls [51:20] for service um versus uh certain residential. [51:26] » Thank you. Back to you, Madame Mayor. >> Thank you. [51:30] » And just to clarify though, when you say it won't cover services, so with the [51:35] owner proposed amount, right, >> that would not be enough. No. to justify [51:41] » right >> the services that we would still have to [51:44] provide we'd be operating at a deficit. So at least [51:48] » we're coming in flat. It's not a revenue generator obviously but at least it [51:53] helps to cover those services for the apartment inspections annually any work [51:58] that has to be done by public works the public safety services that they're [52:02] going to get and even you know we contribute to the fire department to [52:06] help offset their expenses. And so ambulance runs, firet truck runs, all of [52:11] that. We're helping um to just cover ourselves with those investments. So, [52:17] » thank you so much. That will give the residents more clarity. Thanks. [52:21] » I think so. Um any other comments or questions from award two council [52:27] members? It's been a long time coming, so it's [52:31] good to see they're getting closer to actually completing the construction. [52:35] And I will admit, I snuck up in there uh curiosity. I had to see it. I was like, [52:41] it it's supposed to be ready this summer. Um and they're close. They're [52:45] close. So, I look forward to the um the grand opening. Um and then Mr. Wood is [52:52] so for this um for a formal vote from council. Do we [52:57] have this on the 7:00 agenda or do we need to amend it to add this for [53:01] approval or does it need to go back to Suellen first? [53:04] » No. Um, so there is uh specific language that Swellen and a couple of pieces that [53:10] Swellen and Veto are are finalizing. Um, so I pulled it from the 7:00 agenda. Um, [53:17] I have a draft resolution, but I want to make sure it's right. So, um, it will [53:23] come back before you. Um, but now that I know that this is exactly [53:28] what council is good with, we can memorialize that in the resolution. [53:34] And then the only challenge is I know they are very anxious to get decisions [53:39] sooner rather than later, but typically anything financial the council has to [53:43] vote on at the 7:00 p.m. council meeting. So [53:48] » that yeah, not unless we did a separate meeting, but that's why we don't do [53:54] financial decisions in the work session. It's always in the actual council [53:58] meeting. So, just want you to be mindful of that so we can figure out if there's [54:02] a separate meeting that we need to call. Even if it's via Zoom to resolve this, [54:08] we wouldn't be able to do it at a retreat. It would have to be a formal [54:11] meeting that's called to, you know, address that. [54:15] » Okay. >> And not a work session, an actual [54:18] » council meeting. Okay. >> Just want to mention that. [54:22] » Thank you. >> No worries. And while you're off mute, [54:25] did you want to touch on the next uh the previous item, the gloves up, guns down [54:30] grant? >> Oh, uh yes. Sorry, I skipped over that. [54:35] Um just wanted to provide council an update. Um we're really excited with the [54:40] progress. There was a kickoff in uh in June. Um there is a camp coming up in [54:48] the first week. >> Thank you. Yes. was like, "Wait a [54:53] minute. Blank dates are all Yeah. blurring together." Um, so, um, we know [55:00] that this has been, uh, a labor of love. So, a major thanks to the chief, to, uh, [55:06] Alicia who's been kind of spearheading it, to our our county partners and other [55:11] municipal partners, um, and merging this with, um, some, uh, funding that we [55:17] received from the state, uh, a grant for $78,000. [55:21] Um and for all of the volunteers um that are uh that have gone through the [55:27] fingerprinting process um to participate with our young people. Um just to give [55:33] an update, it will be uh twice a week um starting in I believe September. Um, and [55:41] we're hoping to have uh a total of I believe it's 80 young people. 40 people [55:47] for um great 40 people >> right now there's 19 signed up. [55:52] » Microphone chief. >> Uh yes, right now um there's 19 youth [55:58] that are signed up and there's six additional spots. So I think they're [56:01] doing 25. >> Oh, 25. Okay. Sorry. I was like 80 [56:04] sounds like a lot. Um 25. of half at the [56:12] um why am I blinking? I'm thinking stadium armory, but it's not stadium [56:16] armory. Um >> the Salvation Army. Thank you. Um and [56:21] the other half of the students um will be um at the county. Um the idea is that [56:27] uh obviously those that are specific Bladenberg residents um would able to [56:33] would be um here at the Salvation Army. Obviously, it's a little bit closer. Um, [56:39] and so we're excited about the progress that um that this program is making and [56:45] just wanted to know if there are any specific questions that council might [56:48] have um that we'd be able to to bring back and answer or any discussions. [56:53] » Perfect. Thank you for that overview. Chief First Corin, any additional [56:58] context you want to add to that? Yes, just that the uh boxing clinic is [57:04] going to be from the 27th to the 31st at the Salvation Army and then the year- [57:08] round program is going to start September 14th and run until June 30th [57:12] of 27. Um we're going to be using Prince [57:16] George's County Police Department District 3 as one location and over here [57:20] on Edmonston Road at the Salvation Army and then there's also a gym that we'll [57:24] be using for the program itself. Is the district three location Barlo [57:30] Road or is that okay? Got it. Any questions from the council council [57:34] member Brown? >> Thank you. [57:36] » So, uh, interim chief. So, give me those dates again. You said September the [57:42] » September 14th, 2026 through June 30th, 2027. That's that's the actual program. [57:47] » Ah, okay. >> The clinic starts uh next week. That's [57:50] going to be >> uh just the boxing clinic itself, but [57:53] the program runs a year long. >> Ah, okay. What are the age group, Chief? [57:58] » I'm not sure of what age it starts at. I know when we went for the kickoff at the [58:03] PAL program, there were really young kids up to I think up to 18. Um, so we [58:09] had the kickoff for this in the registration at the at the PAL boxing [58:13] program that the county had. >> What percentage of um young people from [58:18] Bladesburg signed up? Do you know? >> I don't know the percentage. [58:23] » Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? Council member [58:26] » BR in transportation, their parents will be responsible for transporting them. [58:32] » Yes, we're not transporting them. >> Okay. [58:35] » Uhuh. Council member Blunt, have you all had the pleasure to meet um Shirley [58:39] Lenn? >> That was my question. [58:42] » I haven't, but I know that that they've been in talks to have have him and some [58:47] others talk to the kids. I went on a tour of the uh Salvation Army, [58:52] » which I met the staff down there. It was nice. And then I went up to the gym [58:56] where they're doing it at and the guy that's running the gym seems like he's [58:59] perfect for for this to work with the youth. They have a lot of experience. [59:06] » Can we just be notified if there's Sugar Ray Leonard sightings or Keith coming to [59:12] a particular session? I felt something over here when that question was raised. [59:17] So, we need to make sure. >> I went to school with [59:21] » Okay. Gotcha. You know how old I am? Salvation Army. A big space for this. [59:27] Like the space is kind of [59:34] » Okay. >> Oh, my mic is on. [59:38] » You couldn't hear the chief, Mr. Gray? >> No. [59:41] » Chief, they couldn't hear you. Can you repeat the light? Can you repeat [59:44] everything or [59:49] » basketball bags and and the ring set up in there? [59:54] And that's just one of the couple locations. [59:59] » Exciting times and just look forward to the impact of giving kids an alternative [1:00:05] activity, something that's productive and teaching them not to resort to [1:00:10] violence in the street. just, you know, putting that energy somewhere [1:00:14] productive. So, look forward to being able to come and check it out once it [1:00:17] gets underway. Uh, at this time, [1:00:24] » so, um, Chief was saying there's a clinic coming up and then after that, [1:00:28] the actual session starts in September. Do you want to give those dates one more [1:00:33] time, Chief? >> Yes. The clinic is the 27th of this [1:00:36] month until the 31st at the Salvation Army. And then the uh the program itself [1:00:43] is September 14th, 2026 through June 30th, 2027. And the times for that 5:30 [1:00:49] p.m. to 7:30 p.m. >> So 27 in September. [1:00:54] » The the 14th of September through through June of June 30th of 2027. [1:00:59] » What's the time for this month? The 27th. [1:01:02] » The the 27th. Let me check. I have the uh [1:01:07] » it might be in the report because I think you had information about it in [1:01:12] your uh monthly report, Chief. >> Yes, I have the flyer. I'm just It's my [1:01:18] computer's not bringing it up. >> All right, we will get that information [1:01:22] to you. We're going to keep moving. Uh the next item is under financial [1:01:26] business for consideration for the council tonight is uh the decisions for [1:01:31] grant and scholarship program recommendation. So with that uh we'll [1:01:35] turn it back over to the town administrator. [1:01:38] » All right. I will not speak too much on this. Uh this is more for council. Um [1:01:45] and I believe there should be um an Excel spreadsheet in your binders. Um so [1:01:54] this is bringing back the conversation we had in June around [1:01:58] um a number of our grant applicants. Um and the recommendation from Rey was that [1:02:07] this year um the three applicants that applied for the uh educational [1:02:14] scholarship um did not necessarily meet the criteria. Um, so we could roll that [1:02:20] money into this pot, which would take the total uh amount available for um [1:02:28] grants and grants uh to $15,000 um which would leave us about $3,000 shy [1:02:37] of the total request um if all nine applicants were funded at approximately [1:02:43] $2,000. Uh, so we just did a little rubric um as [1:02:50] a conversational piece for you guys. Uh, and I will turn it over. [1:02:55] » So, we've been looking appreciate the rubric. Um, one thing [1:03:00] that I wanted to note is one of the groups, I know they scored a 3.7, but I [1:03:06] would consider um, swapping out GH with Good Intentions because Good Intentions [1:03:14] is based in the port towns. We did get to see their youth program in action [1:03:19] last year and they really made a huge difference in the lives of those [1:03:23] teenagers. I mean, things that we take for granted were very impactful for [1:03:27] them. Just thinking about when they took the kids out on the river and how many [1:03:31] of them grew up in this area and never even had been in that kind of experience [1:03:36] and got to see their community in a whole different way and opened up to the [1:03:41] sciences um through that connection with AWS. So I think that would be my [1:03:46] recommendation that we do Carrison um particularly given their support for [1:03:51] immigration issues and what some of our residents are facing. They're an [1:03:56] important partner. Anacostia Watershed Society, another great partner. Eco [1:04:01] City, it goes without saying, tremendous partner. Um, End Time Harvest [1:04:05] Ministries, which will allow us to touch the youth. We lead by example is helping [1:04:11] us touch the youth, but also older residents as well. And then, um, uh, [1:04:17] where is it? Good intentions. So that gives us one, two, three, four, five, [1:04:24] six. Am I good with my math or did we go [1:04:28] over? [1:04:32] » I think we're good. We needed six. [1:04:37] So, we're essentially swapping rank one and [1:04:44] seven on the um top sheet. [1:04:51] Does that putting it out there, but council, let me know your thoughts. [1:05:00] » I did hear some grumblings about the tiny print. I'm just saying. I'm just [1:05:04] the messenger. It was fine. [1:05:08] » I'm just the messenger. Don't shoot the messenger, Brian. [1:05:15] » I don't know who said it. Look, I don't know who said it. [1:05:22] » Heard through. >> I heard through the grape vine. Oh. Oh, [1:05:26] I'm sorry. It was both ways. I don't, Mr. Wood. I have no idea. I can neither [1:05:32] confirm nor deny. [1:05:35] Noted, mayor. Noted. Thank you. I will uh take that under advisement moving [1:05:40] forward. [1:05:56] » Thank you, Governor. That's exactly what I [1:05:58] » paper. I like it. It was very sustainable. Thank you, council member. [1:06:02] What? >> We're a green community. I'll do my [1:06:04] best. [1:06:11] » You want me to run them back one more time [1:06:14] » or you think you got them all? Okay. So, we've got Carrison [1:06:19] and then AWS [1:06:23] Eco City Farms >> End Time Harvest Ministries. [1:06:29] We lead by example and then good intentions foundation [1:06:40] » and the ones you didn't mention on that. >> Yeah. [1:06:44] » Because we we would have to pull money from somewhere else to be able to cover [1:06:48] all of them. Yeah. >> And we just don't have the funding. But [1:06:53] still we're doing more than we have previously. So still making a good [1:06:57] impact. She is. >> All right. Copy that. Thank you. [1:07:04] Thank you, Mayor and Council. So, I'll send that out and we'll notify [1:07:08] um the recipients and move forward >> and then in the 7:00 meeting, we'll just [1:07:14] need to do the formal vote. >> Yep. [1:07:16] » Sorry. Sorry, Mr. Gray. And we'll just do the formal vote in the uh 7:00 [1:07:22] meeting since it's a financial um decision of the council. [1:07:27] » Okay. for for the ones that didn't make it. We we have our discretionary funds. [1:07:32] Can we give money to the Okay, great. >> Oh, and speaking of, has there been an [1:07:38] allocation of the FY26 discretionary funds? Because if not, we need to do [1:07:43] that at the next meeting as well. >> Yeah, [1:07:48] » we Yes. >> So, [1:07:52] » yes. >> Okay. [1:07:54] » Yes. >> Okay. [1:07:56] Got it. All right, we will wrap this up quickly so we have time to prepare. [1:08:02] Um, any other comments or questions regarding the scholars, the grants? [1:08:07] Okay. All right. So, with that, we have come to the end of tonight's agenda. [1:08:11] Council, is there a motion to adjurnn? >> I move. [1:08:14] » Moved by council member Dixon. Is there a second? [1:08:16] » A second. >> Seconded by council member Blunt. Any [1:08:19] comments or questions before adjournment? [1:08:22] Hearing none, I'll call for the vote. All in favor, let it be known by the [1:08:25] saying of I. I. Any nays? The eyes have it. We're adjourned. And the time is [1:08:31] 6:40. Thank you.