[0:09] Everybody stand
alone
[0:28] for all.
[0:40] better.
[1:06] Um we are we are approving this review
um meeting minutes from May 26, June 1st
[1:16] and June 8th that will be posted. Um I
vote proof select word minutes for those
[1:22] dates.
>> Second.
[1:23] » Any questions?
>> None. All in favor
[1:35] » state of Sar W. Rabbit.
>> Yeah.
[1:48] » I the only one signing this or they
signing this or
[1:51] » I think you're the only
>> I think one area for signature.
[1:57] So we did review this. We have talked to
[2:03] we should be okay
[2:11] as well as the library. We check with
them
[2:21] estate.
[2:25] All in favor?
[2:46] All
[2:59] right.
[3:21] I don't know. I don't
[3:28] » know.
Asking for closed captions to be on
[3:33] talking about.
>> Okay.
[3:35] » Do you
>> Oh, yeah. You can turn them on. See up
[3:39] top
>> little
[3:42] » Did you see it though?
>> Nope.
[3:44] » You go over to
>> me.
[3:51] » Go to more.
>> There it is.
[3:54] There. That's it.
>> That's it.
[4:02] » 385.
No.
[4:05] » What? What's the main phone number?
A484279
[4:11] extension 206
[4:18] 42
[4:23] » 206
[4:28] I sent you um so it's it's at the top
box the correspondence with legal in
[4:35] regards to
[4:49] We will now appoint uh we're looking to
appoint Kathy Sneltzer to the cultural
[4:54] council for the term September 8th, 2026
through June 30th, 2029. Is there
[5:00] anybody here from the cultural council?
I think Kathy might I don't know that
[5:06] » it might be.
[5:11] » Well, she can unmute.
>> She can unmute. I think
[5:21] » I could be wrong. Maybe it's not her.
>> Yes.
[5:31] » No.
They're not
[5:36] » approve
[5:40] to to the um cultural council.
>> She's the only one that has different
[5:45] dates than the rest of them.
>> She does three years. The rest of them
[5:50] are one year.
>> The cultural counts are set up for three
[5:55] years.
[6:00] » Second.
[6:09] The only one don't bundle would be
Karina. I think she has to abstain from
[6:13] hers.
[6:28] planning
the community development coordination
[6:32] group.
[6:38] I think we can turn
[6:43] folks feel it's a real benefit. I got a
feeling they're
[6:49] extend
[6:59] Everyone's
[7:03] James Bland Raymond
Jennifer Gerard
[7:08] Adam Dolby
Gates
[7:13] Community.
[7:25] because you still have to um appoint her
in
[7:30] » you have to appoint her. She just has to
[7:40] chart
to as the chair of the select as the
[7:46] community development coordination
group. Second
[7:56] » and I have
Thank you.
[8:02] » Yeah.
[8:46] Okay.
[8:52] » Will these folks have to uh
Yep.
[8:56] » Yes. Everybody has
[9:05] um Doris does that
once these are signed. I keep it as a
[9:11] tool for me, but I give Doris and that's
her tool through on the rest of what
[9:16] they're
[10:08] We'll come up with a fancy signature.
[10:21] you approve for
payments with the payroll is
[10:29] that correct?
>> Yes. Um I don't have it yet. So I'll
[10:33] have you guys come in and sign tomorrow
maybe
[10:37] and then we'll just make a motion next
week, next meeting.
[10:47] That's it for those types of action
items. The rest is new business. Um so
[10:52] first on the
[10:58] » um
I talked to Adam earlier join us.
[11:12] All right. So, let's talk about cell
phon.
[11:40] » I know. speaking. They was talking his
personal
[11:46] jam-packed with messages and
[11:54] » I don't
[12:11] Yeah,
>> people that have
[12:16] » n the problem I'm having right now is
Mary said she can't hear anything.
[12:21] » I tested the speakers when I started it
and it said
[12:27] » I don't know.
Mary says she can't hear.
[12:31] » Mary, can you hear me?
[12:35] » Is connecting to audio. It might be a
Mary thing.
[12:38] » Okay.
Hold on.
[12:42] » How about whoever see us?
>> I don't know.
[12:46] » Enough.
[12:52] » She said she could hear us just then.
I'm asking her. Was it enough?
[13:04] » Well, she can read the captions, right?
>> Yeah. She said she's good. Okay.
[13:09] Um so let's you know so from the
feedback I heard was
[13:28] » um well can I just it's not about I
don't mind either right but I think that
[13:34] if you're going to do it we shouldn't do
it for the person we should do it for
[13:38] the position. So, if you know, if it
makes sense that select board members
[13:42] have phones, which I kind of think it
does, you know, you guys should have
[13:46] your personal phones and then your
phones for business. Um, if you guys
[13:51] think that makes sense, I think you
should probably make a list of the
[13:55] positions that make no sense. I mean,
I'll be the first one to tell you. I
[13:58] don't mind, right? But moving forward,
the next county administrator might want
[14:04] their own. Yeah,
that would just be my only and funding
[14:10] wise, we could write an article for
special town meeting that we're going to
[14:14] inevitably have in the spring um for
funding. So,
[14:18] » right,
>> it's up to you guys to decide who to
[14:20] identify.
>> Who else? I mean, that's
[14:26] think Nicole.
>> Um I think anybody who uh you know is in
[14:31] is is handling any sort of maintenance
with the town, right? Like so perhaps
[14:36] you know if we get
that position filled for maintenance
[14:45] » fire department has
[14:50] » just 911 and
>> okay
[14:53] » inspections it's through Adam
>> so
[15:01] comes in through
get dispatched.
[15:06] » So over the radio.
>> Over the radio, but we also get it on
[15:10] our phones.
Have a tap in place.
[15:18] » It would make sense to have a department
head phone,
[15:21] » right? The fire chief would have a
phone. Um, you know, I know police
[15:26] chief, she has a phone, but we pay
through that through our half of what we
[15:32] pay to Chester.
highway water. Um, you know, like I
[15:38] said, a maintenance
[15:44] » building maintenance. You definitely do
that.
[15:47] » Right. Right.
>> I know. I mean some folks don't like to
[15:51] carry two phones but there's others that
do
[15:57] their personal phone
[16:01] because what would happen like
[16:06] one of them would
[16:12] » they already do yeah handles that that
>> for them but we pay you know half
[16:19] » so Okay.
[16:26] » Well,
>> I mean,
[16:30] » no.
[16:36] » Maybe
>> you know, highway, water, building, and
[16:41] fire.
[16:45] » Oh, Christina, how did I forget her?
>> Everyone does. It's okay. Um, [laughter]
[16:54] » board member feels they would like to
have one and we have it in the budget.
[16:58] » So again, I would I would h I would
suggest that the board, you know, decide
[17:03] what roles could make sense for it.
Whoever says they want one, that's fine.
[17:09] There's it's there. If you want it, we
can sign you up for it. If they don't
[17:12] want it, that's fine, too. But the next
person may. So, let's not do it, you
[17:16] know, over again.
The only thing that concerns me about
[17:22] Dana is getting
>> there should be a lot of things that
[17:25] concern you about me.
[17:30] » Oh, yeah.
>> All right.
[17:34] » You know, like
>> it happens now. It's okay.
[17:37] » You know, you don't
know.
[17:40] » That's okay.
>> That's okay. That's what I'm here for,
[17:43] right? Like that's, you know,
>> No.
[17:47] Well,
>> yeah, true. It's okay. That's not a
[17:50] conversation we need to have right now.
I think that the board should just
[17:53] decide it makes sense that certain
positions have cell phones. And if you
[17:58] would like, I can draft an article for
the upcoming town special town meeting
[18:02] that would reflect that.
>> Yeah.
[18:03] » And you guys can take a look at it how
it's worded. And I my suggestion would
[18:08] be to word it as, you know, we want this
fund for these positions. Whether
[18:12] somebody wants the phone or not, that's
up to them. Um but we would also have a
[18:17] policy that would have to go along with
it.
[18:19] » Oh, absolutely.
>> To Steve because in business there's
[18:24] normally it organization manag
[18:45] All right. So, I agree. You know, let's
go ahead and
[18:49] um
[18:52] » do it.
[18:56] Okay. I vote
[19:04] » to to
[19:10] Christina to draft an article for
special town meeting to fund phones for
[19:15] identified department heads.
[19:27] Second
question
[19:33] on that.
[19:36] » Okay. So, let's discuss um
big heated discussion in town around the
[19:45] timing of this meeting our meetings. Um,
I would say that, you know, I received
[19:52] feedback,
[19:56] you've received feedback,
folks that feel that the timing of this
[20:01] is not
good for them because if they work, they
[20:05] can't get here any
[20:15] decision that this was going to cause
this level
[20:18] concern never even in my mind that it
would or probably would not have changed
[20:24] it frankly because disrupting
the town is not
[20:32] the
rightver
[20:46] Where are we at?
[20:50] » Where folks are complaining about coming
in at six.
[20:56] » You've got feedback you said, right?
>> Yeah, I I've gotten feedback and
[21:08] I don't know
four, five, six. I mean, we used to have
[21:13] them at seven that became way too late,
you know, especially things we have on
[21:20] our show. I don't know. I
six
[21:28] years.
>> I just know that as you can tell right
[21:31] now, not too many show up because most
of them are working. That's the
[21:35] feedback. And I know that we are
concerned about, you know, when we do
[21:40] have them at 6, we don't have people
show up. But if it's on the agenda and
[21:44] there's something that they want to
>> want to look at, then we should give
[21:48] them the opportunity to come here
>> and and not ask them to take a day off
[21:52] of work so that they can attend a 4:00
meeting.
[21:56] » So I I I think think we should go back
to circle
[21:59] » and we can also like have our executive,
>> right?
[22:07] to keep the peace and to
>> it's some kind of normality event.
[22:11] » I'm not catching this. Sorry.
>> 6 o'clock. Yeah.
[22:14] » Yeah. But what did you say about
executive sessions?
[22:19] » Instead of, you know, attaching that
which seems to keep us a lot later. We
[22:23] just pick a different day for executive.
>> Is there any reason you couldn't do
[22:26] executive session first so that you can
meet earlier?
[22:30] Well,
>> any day. We can do it any
[22:36] » I mean two days you'd have to come in
but if you had your meeting at 4 and did
[22:40] executive session just a suggestion
>> we could
[22:44] home at 9:00 at night
>> right
[22:48] » but I think six you know unless it's
like we had our department meeting of
[22:52] course that was longer we had everybody
here
[22:57] that was three hours but I mean a normal
one usually lasts an hour
[23:02] So
>> yeah
[23:07] and an executive
[23:14] » are we going to get feedback
we vote to change now get people calling
[23:20] and saying it's a better
>> I have not heard anything about legging
[23:24] at four
>> once you change it you will
[23:27] » well of course but I mean the majority
want want it back at six so they can
[23:32] have the opportunity to come up or visit
us.
[23:34] » Yeah.
>> Instead of taking time off of work.
[23:38] » I I make a motion to the meeting back to
six o'clock.
[23:42] » Okay.
>> And the executive meetings will be at
[23:46] our discretion.
>> That way there you don't have to tie it
[23:49] in at 4:00 on Monday. You can have it on
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
[24:02] Okay, perfect.
[24:18] » What about the 700,000? Adam's supposed
to be joining.
[24:27] All right, we're gonna discuss uh the
firehouse
[24:32] building.
Let's just talk about it for a second.
[24:40] » So, has been doing some work on this.
I've been doing some work.
[24:48] Um, and
to get back to the residents and give
[24:55] them an update as to what occurred with
the last project team that did a lot of
[25:01] work to get us to where we are right
now. We didn't get it over the finish
[25:06] line of what was needed to be done, but
we at least got to the point where
[25:10] they've done a lot of reviews of
different locations.
[25:15] » So, there is something that we can
[25:20] The next step is to get to
[25:28] » you select the space and then
we need
[25:39] this as to when we're gonna get back
where we are.
[25:47] I personally feel and I know there's
some negative feedback on this but I
[25:52] think
[25:55] voted for
[25:59] towns people about when did we change it
from the highway firehouse to just the
[26:04] firehouse
[26:09] at one point but it never got
[26:13] changed by town vote.
So I think that we have to present it in
[26:19] such a way that it's still the highway
and the firehouse and let town people
[26:22] kind of
>> but um both sites that we've kind of
[26:28] landed on as possible
and accommodate both
[26:34] should we go down that
um so I'm willing to work on
[26:41] the engineering
[26:48] What do you guys think
to have a really it's anformational
[26:54] meeting? We're not going to be on
>> I no I would
[27:02] need to have in order to form
an opinion on what they how they want to
[27:10] move forward.
[27:13] just
[27:16] on meeting we're going to talk about
having both
[27:23] or one or the other. I mean
when it comes comes right down
[27:31] bigger project the more expensive it's
going to be the longer wait
[27:37] it's going to be so
>> [snorts]
[27:43] » this. It's going to have to be either
firehouse
[27:47] department.
If we do both then everyone
[27:53] knows
[27:57] you know and you're not
[28:02] » 8 to 10
[28:14] » that's what it was
>> tent type things And what's the story on
[28:21] that?
>> The tent themselves.
[28:25] » Yeah, you can cover all the equipment.
>> So you're talking anywhere from 250,000
[28:33] » but you can't that's not heated, no
electric.
[28:37] » I understand that.
>> There was no foundation,
[28:39] » right?
>> But you your concern is protecting the
[28:43] equipment.
So that would that would help us out in
[28:50] such a way that uh we could push for
just the firehouse for now or
[28:56] » that would just be storing equipment.
>> Yeah.
[28:58] » You know, everything we have in town is
sitting outside and it's all getting
[29:03] weathered.
[29:09] » That would solve that. But then again,
we have a building at the highway
[29:13] department. Having Jason come in two
years ago now when Jen came in when we
[29:19] had the the building inspector check it
out.
[29:23] » We have cracks on the wall. The the
actual cinder blocks are crumbling on
[29:27] the foundation.
It it's it is in disarray. We already
[29:32] replaced the whole front of the building
uh before I started. So that must have
[29:36] been six or seven years ago. Am I right
on the
[29:39] » 2015
>> 2015 we had to take the front of the
[29:44] building apart and put the new structure
on it.
[29:51] » I was going to say is that I think you
should do theformational session if you
[29:55] decide to do anything other than joint
fire and highway. My suggestion would be
[29:59] and I think legal would agree that you
have to do another vote.
[30:02] » Yes.
>> Because the original vote was for both.
[30:05] So to move forward at all You need to
know what the how the town wants the
[30:09] money spent.
>> I could we could do could do like a
[30:14] presentation of it combined and then
separate.
[30:18] » We'd have to have
>> we do
[30:32] » we never really got to final because we
never got to the design phase. Well,
[30:38] that's thing is we we have to have
something to present people and they're
[30:44] gonna they're want to know
[30:54] the people to get us to where we need to
go.
[30:58] » Yeah.
[31:02] » And we're either going to have to and I
I'm looking at, you know, possible
[31:07] part of that. But
what the project was supposed to get to
[31:12] the point of here's what we found to be
your options for putting this thing and
[31:18] the second part of the project that town
has already paid for and here's what
[31:23] that's going to cost based on the design
that we have created and then there was
[31:27] going to be a vote. We got to the point
of
[31:31] determined these are the spots that it
could go to and we took out the highway
[31:38] without informing them all that we did
that. That's at least that's what I'm
[31:43] hearing. That's what people are saying.
Some people, you know, it's like it's I
[31:48] can't say it's everybody,
>> but but the thing is is that the
[31:52] firehouse is going to be far more
injured than the highway garage. Okay.
[31:58] So,
what what we need to do is uh if we're
[32:04] we're going to do a presentation,
we have we have to have a location for
[32:09] both
putting it out where the salt ship that
[32:14] would work fine for the highway
department.
[32:18] But in the center of town, you want the
fire department because everything's
[32:24] spread out. Okay, we got a fire up
by Otis. We got a fire over on Eagle
[32:32] Hill Road.
>> I didn't mean to interrupt you, but Ray
[32:34] and I were actually just talking about
this. If you want to
[32:39] » That was a concern about the center of
town and
[32:42] » having it up at the salt shed. That's
where the plans I seen I seen design
[32:47] plans. I dug the pits for the engineer
so they could end up putting a building
[32:53] up there for the share joint fire
highway.
[32:56] » What? Yes, that was the last I heard at
that point. I seen plans for it. It
[33:00] looked good.
We could end up having the station also
[33:06] in town. That was a big thing. I
remember everyone saying the the
[33:11] highway, the fire department's going to
be way too far out there. You go to
[33:15] Russell, they got multiple stations. You
go to Chester, they got multiple
[33:18] stations. We can keep the majority of
our apparatus in town and have storage
[33:24] for let's say tanker that you don't use
every single time there's a call
[33:29] » in the facility. Let's say if we did put
a salt yard, we can still go with those
[33:34] plans and still have a building that
would be jointly shared between the
[33:39] highway and fire.
>> And didn't you you were talking about
[33:42] response times?
>> Yes. So on top of that, no one ever said
[33:47] to the town, "Hey, hop on a bus and
let's show you something and actually
[33:53] show them, okay, the response time from
CH from 58 Chester Road to the center of
[33:58] town versus coming here to this station,
having to squeeze less than 2 feet in
[34:04] between two trucks, put your boots on,
put your gear on, open up the doors
[34:09] manually, and creep out the door.
Otherwise, you're taking the mirrors off
[34:13] the truck and one of the trucks, not
just the mirrors, but you can rip the
[34:17] whole side of the truck and take the
front of the the, you know,
[34:20] » the whole pump. Yeah.
>> Which has happened before. And to prove
[34:25] it to the people so they can end up
seeing, wait, this does make sense.
[34:29] We've had two open
[34:35] fire department.
I don't
[34:39] people actually went
All right. So, to get their a bus like
[34:46] you said and bring them to the different
locations,
[34:50] I don't know. Yeah. I I I don't know if
that would work or not to get them to
[34:55] come look.
>> When you have that town meeting and you
[34:58] have all those people that are there to
say yay or nay for what they're voting
[35:03] for, that's the crowd that you need to
end upating on. The point is the leaders
[35:09] of the the people who are doing the
work, right? The people who are there,
[35:12] right? You have right, he's on the fire
department and he's the highway
[35:16] superintendent. He's saying that he
thinks and he's a resident. He's saying
[35:20] that he thinks that that's a positive
thing. I think that's that's what people
[35:25] need to hear to make their own
decisions. Not something they think you
[35:29] want to hear, but
>> he does both jobs, right? And he's
[35:33] saying
>> it's doable. It's feasible. I think they
[35:36] that people need to hear it from the
people in leadership in the community
[35:43] » because if we start throwing numbers out
and they hear different numbers that
[35:47] we're saying it might scare them when we
have the facts right out right that's
[35:53] when we end up saying okay these are the
solid numbers that we have here's the
[35:56] designs
yeah
[36:05] have to put the numbers together real
[36:21] is it's been so long talked about it's
like beating a dead horse. The horse is
[36:25] dead already from
2016 all the way up to 23. the residents
[36:32] don't want to hear it anymore because
yes, you have some that want to go for
[36:36] it, some that don't, and then obviously
people in between that just create
[36:41] chaos. So, having someone that's can
speak to the residents and actually show
[36:48] them the differences and have something
set up. I know you're saying open houses
[36:52] cuz I remember when Dave had an open
house at the highway garage when he was
[36:55] here. Very few, maybe a handful of
people showed up, but I didn't see him
[37:01] talking to the residents. I didn't see
him actually interacting with him and
[37:05] saying, "Come up to check out the
garage." You know, that that is one
[37:09] thing that
myself I could say I could probably pull
[37:13] in a good crowd in this town to have
them come up and check out. No,
[37:17] honestly, and the department
>> I never even heard about the open
[37:20] houses.
>> I didn't
[37:24] mean
>> Mary putting in the paper like we could
[37:27] definitely have a a barbecue up there
and we could probably pull most of the
[37:31] taxpayers in town there.
[37:38] » Yeah.
[37:46] Not everybody get
right out there saying open house.
[37:52] » I'm out of
>> Can I call you back?
[37:56] » You know people when they go by the
firehouse they see the number one in the
[38:01] bay or out front. [snorts] Maybe if you
took videos and watch it coming out with
[38:05] inches of spare. Same thing. go around,
take pictures inside and put it on the
[38:10] YouTube so the town residents have no
reason why they say they can't see it.
[38:14] » Yes.
[38:21] » So, I understand that you're you're
getting all of this information and then
[38:25] you're going to take it to the town and
everything like that. Could you just do
[38:28] like anformational session?
>> Okay.
[38:32] » Yeah.
>> Oh, no. Absolutely. No, but you know
[38:36] what I mean? And then that way people
can bring up their grievances and all of
[38:41] their points of well, you know, and if
they want to, they be like, "Okay, next
[38:47] week we're going to have an open house.
If you have any questions or if you have
[38:52] any anything, come down and take a look
for yourself. See how little bit of
[38:57] space you've got to squeak these trucks
out of, you know? Come and see the walls
[39:02] that are literally falling down.
Obviously people who are coming to
[39:06] thatformational session are interested
and then they will come to the following
[39:14] open house and
you know get to see it firsthand.
[39:18] » I think that um
my my take is that most people that I've
[39:25] spoken with agree with having a new
firehouse. Okay, they do.
[39:30] » There's no doubt about it. People are
concerned with how much money it's going
[39:35] to cost. What's it going to do to their
taxes?
[39:37] » It's only going to go up.
>> Is what it is.
[39:39] » But the thing is is that if we don't
take care of it now, eventually it's not
[39:43] going to be a question.
>> I understand.
[39:45] » But I know. So it's like it's either you
spend the money now
[39:49] » or you wait till yours until it's even
more of a problem. possibly an emergency
[39:54] problem because we have no apparatus
because the building has literally
[39:57] crumbled and then you have to replace
all that apparatus.
[40:01] » Like a firehouse isn't a regular house.
Like it's a whole different kind of
[40:06] building and unfortunately it comes with
a price tag.
[40:11] » True. But in a town, you need a fire
department. And I get that like most of
[40:16] the time, we kind of get put to the back
of your mind like you don't think about
[40:20] us necessarily until you need us. And
then when you need us, you need us,
[40:26] » you know,
>> questions about it.
[40:28] » So it there's no way around the price
tag.
[40:32] » I'm opening this up to the
>> I also think that um people still don't
[40:36] know what the location options are.
>> No, I know we haven't, right? That's
[40:40] part of the communication that I mean
assault threat is one of them. Then was
[40:44] it behind the highway garage? Is it down
here on Russell Road? That is a lot of
[40:48] what people were concerned about partly
from what Ray was saying about the
[40:52] response time, but also where is it
going to be and what's what would the
[40:56] the price difference be once we get
there? But I think lots of people just
[41:00] say we don't even know what the options
are.
[41:04] feedback because remember the only time
this board gets to talk together is in
[41:09] this room in this meeting and you know
>> it's hard to do things like this. This
[41:14] is our only opportunity, right? Um, I'm
hearing a whole bunch of things that I
[41:20] take into put this presentation together
and
[41:26] probably October
sometime
[41:31] to have a session informational session
or even beginning in November
[41:40] and we would have to come back and have
sessions on, you know, we may have other
[41:47] information.
[41:54] I would like
[41:57] it's hard. So we're going to have
I think we have
[42:13] people are wearing the dog. People are
doing stuff they can't do during the
[42:16] week. What about a I know you you
earlier. What about 7 o'clock when
[42:21] people are back? They
>> easily
[42:26] have a session.
[42:35] » I challenged how
[42:40] execute
[42:45] what you just said, right? Where is that
space going to come from? How are they,
[42:49] you know, are they going to be open to
discussion? They feel like we dropped
[42:54] the ball.
>> We did
[42:56] » dropped the ball.
>> Multiple multiple generations of people.
[43:00] It wasn't just one board. It was many,
many, many. Right. If it's 2016, first
[43:05] time we start talking about it, that's
years.
[43:08] » Decisions were made. You just kept
beating around the bush. Not you.
[43:12] » I said no decisions were made. You guys
just kept beating around the bush. And I
[43:15] know it wasn't this board. I'm just
>> Yeah. Well, I I was on four different
[43:21] committees to to discuss this. And the
second committee, we actually came up
[43:28] with [snorts] plans because Steve Zak
was on it. He's an architect
[43:32] » and he drew up the building and
everything. We presented it to the board
[43:38] and the chair of the board accepted the
plans and put them in the basket.
[43:44] That was it.
So, you know, it gets very discourage
[43:48] discouraging. And I was on four of them.
I was on this last one, but I conceded
[43:53] my chair to another uh selectman because
I was out of town a lot
[43:59] » and uh it went to hell.
Well, and if you don't, you have to have
[44:06] the number one thing on a big project
like this is you have to have a leader
[44:11] that has passion for making sure that
the project comes to an end.
[44:16] » You can hire a project manager, which we
have to legally. You can hire an
[44:21] engineering team,
>> but you really need a leader that they
[44:25] are just constantly pounding people to
get things done on the project every
[44:30] way. looking at budget, looking at, you
know, everything. And that's something
[44:35] that we're going to have to figure out
who is that leader.
[44:39] And it can't be somebody, you know, I
mean, Adam is a great guy, but Adam is
[44:44] working full time.
>> This is a full-time
[44:49] focused person. So, that would be
something that we as a board should be
[44:54] looking figuring out who that should be.
>> It ain't going to be me. I'm too old.
[44:59] » It [clears throat] could be me. should
also be somebody that has construction
[45:02] experience.
>> Correct.
[45:04] » Correct. Right. Because they could be
looking out for the town in different
[45:08] ways. So, okay. So, but we're all game
to have anformational session.
[45:15] » Here's something that we haven't
considered.
[45:18] you have these um like the Butler
buildings and and that and
[45:26] I remember talking with the uh OPM
column way back when and after they
[45:34] built the building and that and they
actually used the architect at the steel
[45:39] building that they went with and they
they gave you know the shell. what do
[45:47] you want in the shelf and everything?
They came up with a price like that just
[45:51] just to get, you know, people at, okay,
this is what it's going to cost us. What
[45:58] do we add? What do we subtract? to get a
number for the
[46:01] » to get a number
[clears throat]
[46:04] » and they're all licensed architects and
engineers
[46:09] » and then you add on
[46:15] » at the very latest the second week of
November.
[46:19] » Second [clears throat]
got a number on that date.
[46:32] Friday the 13th. Oh god. [laughter]
[46:42] » No. Election was Tuesday the 3.
[46:48] [clears throat]
[46:52] » Friday.
[47:00] I'm good.
[47:08] » There are so many options that it's it's
insane that so many options
[47:15] building like TJ was saying that these
these companies will in you buy the
[47:20] building and they will construct it for
you. They'll put the plans out,
[47:24] everything, right? And they'll deliver
it.
[47:27] » Yeah.
>> I deliver it right to you. I remember
[47:30] and you were going to go.
>> Yeah.
[47:33] » But I
Yeah.
[47:36] » When when the project was going
[47:41] » I asked him I said, "How did you know
[47:46] and stuff like that?" He goes, "Well,
budget was out of control."
[47:49] » Yeah. So they
>> Oh, absolutely.
[47:54] » But we can learn from there.
[47:59] » I mean, they even have, believe it or
not, firehouses that you
[48:09] » Yeah.
[48:16] All right. Last thing.
[48:21] is that
[48:30] we are going to have
[48:33] school administration.
[48:40] Um
[48:43] TJ and I
[48:48] um she represents the western dark side
of the state. Um and she's coming in
[48:56] here with a team from a climate
climate background I think from the
[49:02] state level and she's coming to hear
about how our residents it's a talk it's
[49:07] a feedback session on best
>> and solar
[49:12] » and solar so it's to get feedback from
the residents about their feeling about
[49:19] best
um it's on the 19th
[49:24] Yeah. At 5:00.
Um
[49:33] this will be
[49:43] for the res.
[49:48] Um we may want to actually talk to Adam
to see
[49:54] fire department side as well as Jen
Gerard from Florida.
[50:01] Anybody else that we would want to
definitely have
[50:05] water department
[50:14] » should be there.
[50:22] Yeah, absolutely.
[50:28] » All right.
[50:31] » What's the date on that?
[50:37] » It is.
So, I suspect we will not have a select
[50:42] meeting.
>> Well, um I was trying to schedule it. I
[50:47] thought the select board meeting would
be at 4. This would be from 5 to 6
[50:51] because it was before it was changed
back. So
[50:58] » would you be willing to do on Tuesday
on Monday?
[51:02] » Yeah. Okay.
[51:09] » I will not be here for that. Not that I
need to be. I'm just letting you know.
[51:13] » Yeah.
[51:22] Sorry, Jackie. What time did you say?
[51:32] Monday morning at 5.
[51:43] » Yes, that is for anything that Yeah.
[51:51] I'm good.
[51:56] » So, I have um we've been working a while
on getting
[52:02] contracts for the post office chimney
repair
[52:09] » and we were talking to
we were talking to Greenwood. They are
[52:15] on state contract. Um here are two
contracts signed off by accounting and
[52:22] by legal. One is for the um repairs to
the roof for this building and the other
[52:29] is for the chimney flashing repair at
the town at the post office. Both have
[52:36] their age
sheets attached there and they're good
[52:40] to go. um funding is there and so once
we get these signed I can send them back
[52:45] over to our contact at Greenwood and
hopefully get that all squared away
[52:50] before winter.
>> Adam's here.
[52:57] » Hey guys. Yeah, I can hear you
perfectly.
[53:02] » All right. So, this is for the roof and
the chimney.
[53:05] » Yes. Right.
[53:17] How much is uh shoot? Yeah, go ahead and
review them and then we'll vote.
[53:23] » I was looking for right here. 6,500
>> and that's for
[53:30] » that's for the post office
>> and 9,500 for the repairs to the town
[53:36] hall.
That thing that's been leaking forever.
[53:53] » Yeah.
[54:13] Yes, this is just a repair.
>> Yes, it's on a full new roof. I wish.
[54:18] » What's the date today?
>> Today is the 8th. September 8th.
[54:26] » The drainage.
>> It was quite expensive. Yeah. It was um
[54:31] but they but that they were supposed to
these are the things that they do that
[54:36] are covered under state contract. Their
services that allow them to do the
[54:41] drainage work is not covered under state
contract.
[54:46] » Yes.
Senator, right?
[54:50] » They they would bid on the project.
[54:54] » What we're talking about here is that if
you go back
[55:02] in the room and the guy showed me, you
know,
[55:10] one um and the cement back there is all
cracked and unsafe.
[55:16] Um It smells bad.
[55:46] two. Where's the other one? Where's the
other one?
[55:49] » This copy.
[55:56] Yeah.
Okay.
[56:25] Second
>> questions. All in favor?
[56:28] » I
[56:32] » we will scan those and give him a notice
to proceed.
[56:43] » Okay.
>> Received an email from Paul Dersk. Just
[56:48] a note to say the highway department
dressed Bula Land Road. Seems like it
[56:54] must have been done Wednesday and
eliminated the Oh, I think he meant
[56:57] addressed Bula Land Road and eliminated
the growing array of potholes that has
[57:03] developed in the last few months. It's
been well over a year since the road
[57:06] circus was last addressed and has held
up very nicely since then. Please convey
[57:10] our appreciation to the highway
department for their proactive efforts.
[57:15] Thank you.
Um
[57:20] [clears throat]
just we had discussed that something had
[57:23] come up last meetings um in relation
some questions about um voter
[57:30] registration.
Um we had looked into it. I put together
[57:34] just some information regarding
what you know filling out our strength
[57:40] census what that does you know where
certain notifications come from and what
[57:46] means what
>> um I think that it's important that we
[57:51] obviously address it looked into it
there was no ballot cast in the names of
[57:57] the people who were concerned um that
there may have been what it was was they
[58:01] were on the voter
um they've since been taken off the
[58:06] voter list because they verbally
requested to be taken off the voter
[58:09] list. Um and that's sort of where we're
at. I think um maybe Doris could pen a
[58:16] letter perhaps documenting that this was
our findings. Um
[58:22] and I do think that it deserves, you
know, a response to um Mr. and Mrs. I
[58:27] agree on some level um just to let them
know that that's not not the case.
[58:33] Definitely did look into it. Cath clerk
has not done
[58:38] anything
>> done a lot over
[58:40] » Well, I mean, you haven't done anything
wrong is what I'm saying. Not that you
[58:43] haven't done anything that it wasn't um
an error in
[58:51] um
[58:55] » Mr. Mrs.
The only
[59:00] was the information about the local
election.
[59:07] Actually, we didn't even send that to
her. We sent that
[59:14] as
[59:20] I contacted right. We were when she said
something I contacted her and said
[59:30] you
feel
[59:41] com
[59:52] So this clarifies that what you have
here, Christina. Do you think I should
[59:56] read this or do you think this is
something that
[1:00:00] » So um I don't know. So I I haven't
spoken with um Miss Gregory, but I I
[1:00:07] believe what she may have gotten was the
mailin vote thing that people get. Those
[1:00:11] don't come from town hall. They come
[clears throat] from the state. Um it
[1:00:16] doesn't, you know, and I can understand
why you would see that. And you know, if
[1:00:19] you're if you're registered somewhere
else, you have a question. I I
[1:00:22] completely understand. I do just don't I
I don't want it to go unanswered or
[1:00:26] unressed. I don't want the question
lingering in anybody's mind. You know,
[1:00:30] was there an issue?
>> Right.
[1:00:32] » Um so I appreciate and welcome any
questions, but I, you know, there was no
[1:00:37] issue on our end and I want to make that
make sure that that's clear. I don't
[1:00:41] want to step on any toes. I have no
problem putting a letter together for
[1:00:45] them. Um, I just wasn't sure what the
board wanted to do, what the town
[1:00:48] clerk's office wanted to do.
>> There was just a little bit of misp,
[1:00:54] » right?
[1:01:05] comction.
[1:01:16] Yeah.
[1:01:29] and said, "Okay, the list
[1:01:49] » [laughter]
[1:01:53] » We can talk about it, but sure that she
gets an answer back.
[1:02:00] » So, where did we land on that? Should I
I don't mind. I just want to know for
[1:02:05] sure because I don't
>> Yeah,
[1:02:14] » are you I can send it to town clerk
first.
[1:02:19] » Sure. I would if you want some extra
information, we'd be happy to provide
[1:02:23] it.
>> Thank you, M.
[1:02:29] » Oh, I'm sorry. if I can still make.
>> So, we had uh Paige Dolinsky has reached
[1:02:37] out to us a few times from um Senator
Paul's office uh after receiving a
[1:02:44] constituent inquiry about swimming at
Blair Pond. Um our master plan, our 2021
[1:02:50] open space and recreation plan
recognizes that there was residential
[1:02:54] interest and calls for continued
discussion with Springfield. uh it did
[1:02:59] not establish, you know, a process or
funding or anything. It's just that the
[1:03:03] conversation needs it interested in
having the conversation take place. Um
[1:03:09] I've been in correspondence with Paige
and Paige is saying that she is going to
[1:03:15] reach out to uh Springfield Water Sewer
Commission to see um if they're
[1:03:20] interested in having conversations about
this moving forward.
[1:03:37] the resilient master plan.
It it was for 2021 to 2027,
[1:03:46] that whole thing. And so what it is
typically um all cities and
[1:03:51] municipalities have them and it's like a
a wish list but it also has priorities
[1:03:56] in it. It also has you know if we could
do everything it's right here but also
[1:04:01] here's like where we should be paying
attention to this is what residents want
[1:04:04] this is what you know so it's a good
road map when board or whomever you know
[1:04:09] isn't sure what direction the town was
headed in four or five years ago. it's a
[1:04:15] good road mapap to go back and look at
it. Um, and when I did, yep, there was
[1:04:19] definitely information in on the open
space and recreation part of it and it
[1:04:24] was about, you know, there's interest in
having the conversation. So, somebody I
[1:04:29] don't know who reached out to uh Senator
Paul Mark's office and so they been in
[1:04:34] touch with me about it and so I've
followed up with them and that's kind of
[1:04:38] where we're at.
>> Absolutely.
[1:04:42] And there was a tradeoff
and uh the conservation
[1:04:49] board and the recreation committee we're
talking about putting a beach up on
[1:04:55] Blair Pond. [clears throat] And uh then
the offer came for uh Springfield Water
[1:05:02] to turn over
um Shepherd Farm to the town and uh
[1:05:11] conservation at the time thought that
was a better deal than beach at Blair
[1:05:16] Pond. So we bought Shepherd Pond and
when all said was done is all we got was
[1:05:22] all sprinkled water got was relief from
tax burden and uh can't really use the
[1:05:29] property because they put so many uh
conservation restrictions on it and that
[1:05:35] was uh I think Rosemary Arnold was uh
chair of the conservation committee at
[1:05:42] the time.
>> Oh.
[1:05:48] That that was a long time ago.
[laughter]
[1:05:49] » Okay. Well, maybe they would be open to
I don't know. But uh Paige uh Dolinsky
[1:05:55] from Senator Mark's office said that she
will reach out to see if they're open
[1:05:59] for consultation about it. We don't own
it. So there's you know we can only do
[1:06:03] so much.
[1:06:07] long time ago
[1:06:14] about because do we feel that the towns
the residents still feel strongly about
[1:06:19] it
get very involved in it or not and
[1:06:24] there's an expense associated with it
I'm sure it's not free
[1:06:28] » there going to be a big expense
>> so what would be the next logical step
[1:06:35] with
[1:06:37] I'm going to wait to hear back from
Paige. She said the current status on
[1:06:41] public swimming act um
>> she's going to clarify the current
[1:06:44] status on public swimming access and if
there is interest to continue the
[1:06:48] conversation with the town. So she's
going to reach out to the water
[1:06:52] commission. She said more to come. Enjoy
your read. So I'm waiting for a response
[1:06:56] from
>> coach.
[1:07:03] Well, I mean, I don't think they I think
they I think I made it clear. I know we
[1:07:08] don't have a plan,
>> but the convers for us to have a plan,
[1:07:13] you have to have the conversation.
[1:07:21] » Let's see what she says.
>> What else?
[1:07:27] » Greenwood.
Oh, was there seems to be an issue with
[1:07:31] uh gateway farm and pet the way the
invoicing had been submitted. They were
[1:07:37] putting all departments on one invoice.
It's getting cleared up, but I just
[1:07:41] wanted anybody to know. I think it
affects highway, COA,
[1:07:46] » cemetery, board of health, maybe not
COA, I can't it was it was
[1:07:52] um
>> because they're not
[1:07:53] » because they're not billing separately.
So there will be I believe we'll we will
[1:07:57] have
either two or three bills of prior year
[1:08:01] that we'll have on the special town
meeting from gateway and then two on the
[1:08:04] upcoming warrant that are of this fiscal
year.
[1:08:09] Um,
[1:08:14] there was
an AFLAC payroll deduction issue with a
[1:08:20] former employee, but um I believe
there's corrective action that was on
[1:08:26] the warrant through Kelly. Kelly cleaned
it up. So, um, Matt Perry from Highway,
[1:08:34] it looks like there was a year-end
reconciliation identified by Affleck
[1:08:38] payroll deduction that remained an
outstanding variance. So, I believe
[1:08:42] Kelly's got that all taken care of
and
[1:08:50] that was it. there were I know that
we're going to re try and review the um
[1:08:55] Burkhog versus Encore, but we need a
little bit more information on that. But
[1:08:59] Adam's here, maybe he can
>> chime in. And I know that I don't want
[1:09:02] to take up too much time, so if Adam
wants to
[1:09:07] » we'll do here
[1:09:16] on that.
So, let's talk about the fire engine
[1:09:20] because we talked about it before, but
we never really got to any kind of
[1:09:23] resolution. What are we going to do?
>> Um, and it's really,000
[1:09:34] just to keep it going until we get the
new one. Is that right?
[1:09:39] » Yeah. Um, by the way, the audio, oddly
from the select board cuts in and out
[1:09:46] really, really bad, but I could hear
Mary and Christina uh, unbelievably
[1:09:53] clearly. So, um, I'm not exactly sure
what that is. I don't know if that's the
[1:09:57] speaker in the middle picking it up or
if your mics aren't on or whatever. Uh
[1:10:01] anyway, um yes, the the sort of uh
uh cognitive uh load for us is
[1:10:11] we have to I I believe we should fix
engine one uh because it's going to be a
[1:10:16] minimum of two about two years before we
can get a new truck and get it in
[1:10:21] service.
Um, so it's about 15 grand to fix uh
[1:10:27] engine one's transmission uh to have it
completely rebuilt. Um, and then we that
[1:10:34] would give us some time to not have to
scramble and make uh a a rushed decision
[1:10:42] in terms of which type of truck
manufacturer
[1:10:46] options uh for a new one. uh as well as
potentially buy us a little bit of time
[1:10:52] if we have some clarity on direction for
station that kind of stuff. Uh so my
[1:10:59] suggestion at this point is we should
probably spend the money now to have the
[1:11:04] transmission rebuilt and then you know
with the assumption of we could take a
[1:11:09] few months maybe six or so to evaluate
options on the truck, figure out a
[1:11:16] long-term replacement strategy or
overall appar apparatus in the
[1:11:21] department in general. uh and then you
know give us some time to to move
[1:11:25] forward more diligently than quick
scramble make a $700,000 purchase and
[1:11:31] wait a year and a half for it to show
up.
[1:11:35] » You know the reason I want to bring it
up is I think you discussed that new
[1:11:40] engine
[1:11:43] capital.
>> Yep.
[1:11:47] So
[1:11:51] in the capital plan for next year make
sure that we're
[1:11:59] never got in there.
[1:12:15] I think I have enough but I my assump
nod your head because I won't be able to
[1:12:19] hear it particularly well. I'm assuming
you asked if I have the 15 in the
[1:12:23] budget.
>> Good nod. Okay. Um yes. Uh I I have it
[1:12:28] in budget but it's going to put me right
at the uh absolute threshold for the
[1:12:34] year. So, we'll have to either, you
know, do something with special town
[1:12:39] meeting whenever we do it or I just want
you guys aware that I'll obviously
[1:12:43] overrun the budget, uh, which I don't
normally do. So,
[1:12:50] » couple things. One is
when are we planning special meeting
[1:13:04] unless there's a pressing issue that
needs to take place before free cash is
[1:13:08] certified but I believe the assessors
are working to set the tax rate as early
[1:13:13] as possible.
So, she's got to
[1:13:18] » I think she already set the meeting date
for the tax rate. I think it was I don't
[1:13:22] remember.
>> I thought Yeah, I think she mentioned it
[1:13:24] last time, right? Yep. Last week.
>> Yeah.
[1:13:27] » Wow.
>> Um Michaela.
[1:13:30] » Michaela.
>> Yep. That's who would do it. The
[1:13:32] assessors have a meeting to set the
proposed tax rate.
[1:13:36] » Don't they have to wait for a lot of
other things to occur before they can
[1:13:39] set that tax rate?
>> No, it's preliminary taxes.
[1:13:43] » It's preliminary tax rate. And she had
mentioned trying to get it out so that
[1:13:46] it was in people's hands before
Christmas, I believe, was her line of
[1:13:51] thinking, but I might be remembering
incorrectly. Yeah.
[1:14:01] » Yes, correct.
[1:14:08] » Yeah, we hope that it's not. That's
always the the hope, but
[1:14:17] It was last year.
[1:14:25] » Um well, so those were different things
we were scrambling with at the end of
[1:14:28] the year last year.
[1:14:33] » It would have impacted the tax rate.
Yes.
[1:14:41] Um,
>> just to close out on on mine, sorry. Um,
[1:14:45] are we is are you guys in agreement that
we should spend the 15 and we're okay
[1:14:51] with me bumping up against the threshold
there or what do you want me to do?
[1:14:58] » I'm not getting you at all.
>> Talk about right now, Adam.
[1:15:02] » Perfect. Okay, thanks. Yeah, you don't
have to yell. I hear you perfectly
[1:15:05] clear, actually. So,
>> okay.
[1:15:17] » Uh, well, Adam said he has it in his
budget, although it would put him right
[1:15:21] up like, you know, there goes the rest
of his budget. So, where are you going
[1:15:26] to get it? That is a decision that needs
to be Well,
[1:15:30] » would this qualify?
>> Uh, that's that's up to the finance
[1:15:34] committee. You can absolutely ask, but
it's ultimately their decision.
[1:15:53] Oh. Uh, Jackie made a motion to approve
the repair of engine one.
[1:15:59] » Second.
>> Sorry, I couldn't hear it.
[1:16:02] » Yeah.
[1:16:05] » Is she voting?
>> Did you?
[1:16:07] » Yeah.
>> Did you vote?
[1:16:09] » Oh, she just asked if we had any
questions.
[1:16:11] » Oh, sorry.
>> That's okay. We
[1:16:13] » agree. I
>> They're all in favor.
[1:16:17] » Lovely. Thank you. I will keep the cost
as low as humanly possible while making
[1:16:24] sure we get the correct work done.
>> Procurement law.
[1:16:28] » What's that?
>> And you'll follow procurement law.
[1:16:31] » Do we have to for repairs? Does that
mean I have to go out and get multiple
[1:16:34] quotes?
>> Anything? Oh, yes. Adam, you know the
[1:16:38] answer to that.
>> Okay.
[1:16:43] » Now he can't hear me. [laughter]
>> Yeah. Sorry, you broke up. You were
[1:16:47] driving through a tunnel. Yeah. Okay.
I'll make sure I get multiple quotes.
[1:16:52] » You could just use a contract on state.
Never mind. Yep. Thank you.
[1:16:57] » Got it. Yeah, I got you.
>> Let folks know that we'll address this
[1:17:03] again.
We're have to do
[1:17:07] » uh the audio.
>> Jackie just wants everybody to listening
[1:17:10] at home to know that if you cannot if
you are one of the ones who are unable
[1:17:15] to hear her or hear any member of the
select board, we are aware of it. and we
[1:17:20] will continue to address it. We
apologize.
[1:17:27] » I can't dissect it.
>> Okay.
[1:17:30] » It actually works great if everything
you say Christina just relays. So, it
[1:17:35] might not speed up the meeting at all,
but you know, she can just keep doing
[1:17:39] all the talking. [clears throat]
>> Sign language works fine though.
[1:17:45] » [laughter]
>> You want to try moving the turtle
[1:17:48] closer?
>> Not the turtle.
[1:17:50] » Not the turtle.
>> Okay.
[1:17:53] » The turtle.
>> I wouldn't mess with it during a
[1:17:54] meeting. I would try it afterwards.
And do you guys need me for anything
[1:17:59] else other than tech support?
[1:18:05] » Oh, Jackie said she's You're in big
trouble. [laughter]
[1:18:10] » That's always implied actually. Yeah.
We're going to reach out regarding the
[1:18:15] difference between Encore and this uh
for COG bid for the Boston fire
[1:18:20] inspection thing
>> during the meeting today or you
[1:18:24] » No, I we'll reach out.
>> Okay. Well, all right. Perfect. Okay.
[1:18:28] » Thanks.
>> Thanks everyone.
[1:18:30] » Yeah.
[1:18:33] » Okay.
>> How you doing?
[1:18:36] » Uh short thing. I don't have much to go
over. Uh we had a holiday uh yesterday.
[1:18:42] So today I got all the uh accepted all
the bid tribulations for coco for our
[1:18:49] winter salt and or the winter sand and
horse sand. So we're all set on
[1:18:55] basically our winter materials that we
need for uh this coming winter.
[1:19:02] » We have much left from last year. I'm
just curious.
[1:19:04] » What do you mean?
>> Any sand left? You always stockpile it
[1:19:08] before the end of the year because
material goes up. You always have your
[1:19:13] your shed full.
>> So you're starting the year with a full
[1:19:19] sh.
>> Yeah. Start a year with a full shed.
[1:19:22] » Okay.
[1:19:27] » And it's already like purchase it. Yep.
>> It's all taken care of for last year.
[1:19:33] Okay.
[1:19:37] I ended up having a conversation
following up with our roller
[1:19:43] to see where the notice proceeded is
from the state so that we can end up
[1:19:50] issuing that to Woods so we can end up
getting the ball rolling on that.
[1:19:55] There's still nothing yet, but she said
by the end of the week or next week we
[1:20:00] should hear something. So, our roller
that we're renting went back to CN Wood.
[1:20:07] I ended up having a conversation with
them today. They're trying to charge us
[1:20:10] for a full month. Got that straightened
out because we turned it back in on the
[1:20:15] third. So,
>> the price should reflect what we
[1:20:19] actually used, you know, our time having
it, not
[1:20:23] » the excess. So, she was good with me on
that. Uh, the next thing that I ended up
[1:20:29] speaking with
Kristen on Friday was about this warp
[1:20:35] program.
>> Um, program
[1:20:38] » rap.
>> No, no, but I was talking with her about
[1:20:41] that.
>> What program?
[1:20:42] » Rap. W
>> W R A.
[1:20:45] » Yep.
>> Yes.
[1:20:47] » Okay. Um, and in talks about that, how
we had the funding for the 161,000 I
[1:20:54] believe that Kelly were all talking
about, we got back.
[1:20:58] » So that's in our account right now on
our chapter 90 account. We're going to
[1:21:02] utilize it for the next upcoming year.
We're not going to chase going back
[1:21:07] previously. Let's just keep going
forward and not stepping back. So
[1:21:12] » decided that was the best uh course of
action for that. Then she asked if there
[1:21:17] was any projects or anything with um
with a winter recovery if we were
[1:21:24] interested in submitting anything. And
one thing that came to mind was the uh
[1:21:33] was that canopy.
>> Mhm. [clears throat]
[1:21:37] because chapter 90 covers the canopy
to end up having
[1:21:44] [clears throat]
the span building.
[1:21:47] » Now, this wouldn't be a heated garage.
Obviously, this isn't going to have a
[1:21:51] bathroom and running water or even
electric.
[1:21:56] » Protect the equipment.
>> This one's going to be a 67 by 80.
[1:22:01] » Okay. So I ended up speaking with her
and she ended up saying that it actually
[1:22:06] qualifies
for that program. So there's
[1:22:11] [clears throat] no commitment of the
town. There's no money that we have to
[1:22:15] put up front. So I Friday I just
answered the questionnaire and submitted
[1:22:22] the paperwork for this canopy.
>> So I already had all the quotes from
[1:22:26] source well from the three quotes. I had
all my paperwork sitting in this file
[1:22:32] ready to go as soon as I had time to end
up submitting this for chapter 90.
[1:22:40] Um
it's the total cost with the block
[1:22:44] foundation
is going to be $259,90.
[1:22:50] When she heard that number, she said,
"Go for it." Because all the
[1:22:54] applications that she's seeing that
people are putting in for projects are
[1:22:59] close to a million or higher. Um,
there's $20 million
[1:23:04] that's up for grabs. So, even if we get
a slice of that pie, knowing that I can
[1:23:10] end up combining this with chapter 90 so
that we can still have that funding in
[1:23:14] the chapter 90 instead of utilizing all
of it, it would be good. So,
[1:23:21] we'll end up seeing what happens.
What's your thoughts on I seen you?
[1:23:31] » Well,
>> this this would be you mean using that
[1:23:37] for the highway.
>> Okay.
[1:23:42] » When you said it, there's 20 million
that's sitting there that people can
[1:23:46] possibly get. It has to be directly for
like sand and salt
[1:23:54] stuff. Yeah. It cannot be
>> to build us a highway department.
[1:23:58] » It wouldn't happen. Um so that's this is
a sand and salt shed. That's what this
[1:24:04] is for cuz we had issues with ours. We
had Jason go up there. The back wall is
[1:24:09] starting to fall.
>> Yeah. Um, we put the blocks in there
[1:24:13] just so that we're not pushing on the
building so it collapses on the guys
[1:24:17] from when we get our loads of sand and
salt delivered. Right now, we have a
[1:24:21] buffer of about 15 ft on the back side
of the building that we cleaned all the
[1:24:25] way back to the post and then set mafia
blocks all the way. So, it's hollow
[1:24:30] behind it and we have the support so
we're not kicking the building out on
[1:24:34] the back cuz right now we had a
disconnect of what 4 in almost half a
[1:24:39] foot of the of the 12x 12s are rolling
back right now.
[1:24:53] different spot. I left that that spot
where they perk tested and where they
[1:24:59] did the site plans where the actual
>> safety complex would be. I chose a
[1:25:05] different location that's not being
utilized for anything on those plans.
[1:25:10] even the the fuel depot that they were
planning to put in up there were
[1:25:14] completely out of the space where they
ended up designating the fuel depot to
[1:25:18] be. So, okay,
>> I got all the quotes in or the paperwork
[1:25:22] in they requested. I ended up doing the
the uh 454 form that they requested and
[1:25:30] for some reason uh
[1:25:34] I don't know yet. She said, "No, no, she
she said actually it's going to I don't
[1:25:39] know an exact date, but she said it's
going to be towards the end of October."
[1:25:44] So, that's that's the turnaround, but
there's no exact date when they're
[1:25:48] actually going to send a letter. Um,
[1:25:53] what's the other part of this?
[1:25:57] » Any clue on how long it takes them to
something like that? Uh when I end up
[1:26:02] when I ended up uh having a conversation
with Brad Williams from Clearband, which
[1:26:07] has been working with me on the design,
they would come in with their crew. They
[1:26:12] build it once we end up setting up the
block. So
[1:26:16] we would I would end up working with
Jason. We' pull the proper permits that
[1:26:20] are needed. We would end up leveling the
surface, compacting the ground, setting
[1:26:24] the uh the mafia blocks, the 2x twox
blocks for the foundation. He comes up,
[1:26:32] okay it once he says that it's good to
their specs. They have everything
[1:26:37] delivered. They come up, put it up. It
takes two days for them to put the whole
[1:26:41] system up. I couldn't believe.
>> So they they got a good crew and that's
[1:26:45] all with the prevailing wage uh pay
already. All
[1:26:48] » included. All those blocks are all
cemented together and
[1:26:53] » nope. They come as 2 by 2x6. Yeah. And
then they lock in and then on the actual
[1:26:58] quote
they have the uh
[1:27:02] this is the quote for the whole thing.
They have the brackets for bracing each
[1:27:10] block together. So to lock it together,
that's basically uh would be part of it.
[1:27:16] He did have an estimate number for the
blocks, but at the same time, I called
[1:27:21] our local distributor that we end up
getting the blocks through, and I got a
[1:27:26] pretty good price on the amount that we
needed, and I add that into this packet
[1:27:31] that I submitted on Friday. So, we'll
see if we can actually come out on top
[1:27:35] with that.
[1:27:40] It's pretty much a
>> It's not really This week was a busy
[1:27:44] week. guys are working up on Shephard
Road on Lloyd's cleaning out the
[1:27:48] drainage on that hill.
Oh, and chap uh the Grand Central site.
[1:27:56] I had a conversation with Chester and um
Chester's secretary at the fair and
[1:28:03] middlefield secretary and they are also
having the same issue I'm having. So the
[1:28:09] packets that I end up putting together
for mass dot with the 454 and the
[1:28:14] preliminary estimate sheets, I scan it,
I put it, I try uploading it or dropping
[1:28:20] it on my computer and it doesn't upload.
So just like conversation with Dave
[1:28:24] Stokes, I end up making sure that I
submit it to him directly to his email
[1:28:29] » as the single PDF of everything. But
it's not just us that are having the
[1:28:34] problem. It's on the state end that's
actually having that issue. So Any
[1:28:42] questions for me?
[1:28:56] » Did you decide about the hours for the
meeting?
[1:29:02] [clears throat]
>> It's called Thank you.
[1:29:06] And we will have
[1:29:11] discussion.
[1:29:25] » Yes.
[1:29:29] » Do you want to do a roll call vote to
enter into executive session under the
[1:29:34] description on there? So you have the
description right
[1:29:55] yes not to reconvene
[1:30:02] trans says
[1:30:10] Thank you everybody.