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... Mr Deputy Mayor we are live streaming and recording

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the Mayor is currently at a Roman delegation but will

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be joining the meeting a little bit later grasses councillor

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thank you Madame clerk with that this is the specialty

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of council of public meeting for January twenty fourth it's

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one PM so this is the call to order with

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that I will turn it back to the clerk for

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the traditional territory acknowledgement on work

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we would like to begin our meeting by recognizing the

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First Nations matey and in what peoples of Canada there's

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traditional stewards of the land the municipality is located within

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the boundary of treaty eighteen region of eighteen eighteen which

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is the traditional land of the honest and I'll be

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honest only and when that wind up people's

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thank you Madame clerk will not take a moment of

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thank you with that ... and quickly take the council

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certainly Mr Deputy Mayor each member could please respond present

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when their name is called councillor hope

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all I want I'll go down the list and come

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back thank you okay councillor Sampson as I mentioned is

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that a delegation will be joining a bit later

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as as mayor so whatever else you're your own

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you muted Andrea

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can you hear can you hear us

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councillor matter stops

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in the bottom right corner Andrea if you're able to

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to the sound fair and and turn the sound on

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okay M. councillor matched up is going to restart the

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computer so just wait a moment Mr Deputy Mayor

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thank you create I will just ... woods because for

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a moment before we continue okay great thank you and

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Mr book when I see the join the meeting now

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three to the comments by telephone

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okay so you can hang up the telephone

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can you hear me the okay

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can you hear me through the computer Lancaster

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can you hear me through the computer now

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your mics open Mr Bergman I've just tested just saying

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you had joined the meeting

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three times I just removed the one connection Mr Deputy

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Mayor thank you Mr Brookman

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can you hear me Mr recommends it's not your hand

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if you can hear me

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I'm going to send an email thank you

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and we're just waiting for council match subsystem for the

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we do have a tendency councillors hope your arm and

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myself and we're just waiting on that councillor not a

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councillor matter subs can you hear us now

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yes thank you now I can hear you okay that's

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great thanks so much Andrea okay Mr Deputy Mayor I

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will do another role to ensure of ... just another

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world right from the start thank you councillor whole present

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councillor Sampson the Mayor so wherever are absent they will

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join the meeting a little bit later councillor your own

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present and and Deputy Mayor boarding L.

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present thank you in this my apologies for the delay

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and ... we're ready to start

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thank you ... we now will want to the approval

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of the agenda it's recommended the agenda of January twenty

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fourth twenty twenty to be approved as circulated including any

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items and added to this agenda ... can I remove

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and second for that motion to get on the floor

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some of them thank you zero thank you moved by

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councillor your M. second recount circle ... medlar keep make

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could you please vote for affirmative for me man clerk

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will they re open he scrapped thank you I will

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that was closed

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motions cared for nothing with all attendance favorite boarding affirmative

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thank you counsel with that we moved to a for

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declaration of pecuniary interest and generate for their up

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no in accordance with misspoke conflict of interest act and

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the temperature bylaw twenty one dash seventy six sorry twenty

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twenty one dash seventy six council members must pirate statement

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of the interest and its general nature with the clerk

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for inclusion on the registry are there any declarations for

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this agenda today

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seeing none of any do arise from the conversation please

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alert the clerk with that is one away PM we're

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gonna move into the public meetings

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under the authority of the missile Oct twenty twenty one

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in accordance with materials municipal freedom of information and protection

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of privacy act the corporation the town of blue mounds

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wishes to inform the public that all information including opinions

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presentations reports and documentation provided for about a public meeting

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for public consultation or the public process are considered part

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of the public record this information may be posted to

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the town's website and or made available to the public

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on its request note not pertinent shall be granted for

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members of the public to provide verbal comments in response

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to the subject nature of the public meeting is commentator

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must be limited and speaking to no more than ten

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minutes at the public meeting a specialist time shall be

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permitted at the direction of the chair comments will address

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only those matters that are directly related to the matters

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for which the public meetings are being held

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note written submissions received written submissions received by the clerk

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prior to one PM noon the Friday before the schedule

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public meeting will be circulated and included in the record

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of the out of the public meeting all written submissions

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received in response to a public meeting notice

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whether received before or after public meeting will be circulated

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to council for their information in accordance with the town

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it in accordance with the public meeting comments policy PLLC

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Ward fifteen dash Europe you will be considered prior to

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decisions on this matter to which the public meeting is

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B. one this is a public meeting regarding a site

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specific zoning bylaw amendment for the property located at one

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oh seven Hoover late

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the application process the applicant the application proposes to rezone

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the subject lands from the open space ... S. own

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into the residential zone R. one one to prevent single

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detached residential uses

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the public meeting is an opportunity for members of the

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public to learn more about the proposed development the moderate

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the moderator will keep the meeting in order and allow

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the applicant the public and members of council to speak

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and ask questions

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remember no decisions are being made at this meeting is

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simply an opportunity to learn and provide feedback please be

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advised that you must

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make in writing request if you wish to receive a

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notice of the decision of council on this proposal

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person or public body would otherwise have an ability to

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appeal the decision of council in the blue mountains to

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the Ontario land tribunal

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but the person public body does not make oral submissions

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the public meetings or make written submissions to council before

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the bylaw is passed the person public body is not

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entitled to appeal this decision

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they also may not be added as a party to

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the hearing of an appeal before the tribunal and less

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in the opinion of the tribunal there are reasonable grounds

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so with that Madame clerk I. S. return to you

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for public comments received ... into your office

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thank you Mr Deputy Mayor I confirm that notice of

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this public meeting was given in accordance with the planning

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act and in response comments have been received

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council has received the comments in their entirety and what

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I'm reading right now is just a summary of those

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thing comments from the county of great given that the

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uses existing and all new development or change of use

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is proposed county staff have no significant concerns with the

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subject application it is recommended that further comments be received

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from the conservation authority regarding the proximity to to Georgian

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bay from Kerry Eagleson I am writing to you to

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support the rezoning application I do have several questions that

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I would like answered how did the zoning get changed

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in two thousand eighteen why is it taking so long

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to correct this problem this is clearly an error and

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should be corrected immediately the machine of the zoning amendment

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in the first place from don rate over the years

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construction of new built around our property and the associated

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grading changes that was recommend

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the surrounding lots have significantly raise the ground level and

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has resulted in an increase in stormwater runoff through our

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property increased lot ... run walk run up is now

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joining

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in an increasing groundwater level the current zoning of the

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applicant's property being open space does indicate some thoughtful planning

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for stormwater control my rezoning back to residential the township

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will in effect removal planning opportunity for stormwater controls in

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this area and continue to ignore the effects on our

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property we respectfully request that the township insurers that in

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rezoning this land the effects of storm water and increased

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groundwater on our property ... adequate adequately mitigated and that

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there will be no negative impact where property due to

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this application and that's it ... Mr chair

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thank you ... with that I will take it to

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... staff to start and then and into council

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our presentations are planning service development one of seven who

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were lane ... who's gonna walk us through this

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... ... ... I'm going to walk through ... Walker

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this presentation ... throughout the

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you wanna call it dawned on me my name's Alexander

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Graham planner to for the for the town

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... so as with that the ball is that this

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is a public meeting for site specific zoning bylaw amendment

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for one oh seven moved away

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our next slide please clean up

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... this is that in general information that the application

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... the property is owned by Gordon felt heavy and

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then she did consent ... the town of the blue

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mountains is actually the applicant missed eight on the order

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detail will be ... provided on that aspect a little

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later on the presentation

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the property is located walk Devin Booker lane which is

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in the general secretary of AMPA down area ... and

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the property in question is about twelve hundred square meters

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I'm in terms of the application to protest ... there's

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a few major milestones ... at this point we are

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at the public meeting stage ... and before there's a

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decision made by council and there's any bylaw considered by

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council ... following today's staff are going to complete a

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more detailed review of the application including the comments received

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... as well as throughout the planning documents

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they have lost the presentation that

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critically ill go back to the tournament yeah something's up

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here there we go thank you thank you

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staff more than ... prepare reports council ... at this

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at this point that specific date is undetermined ... but

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just to highlight there's no decision being made today today

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is ... the intent of today's is that the pain

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comments from the public and and council at this application

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aerial photo of the subject lands um provide a little

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bit of contacts of where where the property is that

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you can tell ... the areas yeah I know the

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... generally consider that low density residential uses characterized a

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single detached dwelling units there has been some ...

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some redevelopment of this area where number these properties have

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have undergone a new constructed ... with single detached dwelling

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next slide please

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by the subject property is located within the residential recreational

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area designation of the town's official plan ... B. R.

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residential uses ... thought of their to you just for

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a recreational amenity in the area

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um so the current zoning on the subject property as

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open space or the ... Aspell ... and not zone

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category I'm no buildings or structures that permitted and no

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residential uses are permitted hence the work pants are the

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purpose for the zoning in on that

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our next slide which will provide more detail on that

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aspect

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so formally this part of this property was zoned R.

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street with a small portrait of open space along need

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this provides both David garden bay there is an amending

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bylaw is in that and nineteen ninety two ... which

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rezoned

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property in order to increase the size are result of

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the land ... and I was under the former colony

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bylaw bylaw eighty three forty of the township of calling

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with ... and not ours rezone permitted a single detached

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residential dwelling unit ... and it was under those zoning

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provisions that the existing structure was built ... and and

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and that at that time did conform with those that

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those previous felony provisions

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at the end of the passing of the new comprehensive

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zoning bylaw and twenty eighteen ... being brought down about

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twenty eighteen fifty five on this property was rezoned into

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the open space ... completely into the open space owned

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allegory ... and at that point the single detached dwelling

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unit on the lands ... became a legal non conforming

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use

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... at the at this time ... it's proposed that

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the entirety of the land be rezoned back to the

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R. one dash one zone in order to recognize the

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existing dwelling unit and use of the land ... and

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which is constructed with all the neighboring properties have basically

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just to put it back into that that residential zone

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category and I should note that no new developments is

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proposed that the part of this application it simply to

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put it back into the original phone category under bylaw

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eighty three forty ... in doing so would that take

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away that legal nonconforming use that it would just become

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a legal conforming yes

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and that's the ... the summary of a staff presentation

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hopefully that provides ... some appropriate context so it's it's

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from the fact that

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thanks Travis ... with that I will open up to

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my council colleagues for questions or comments ... doesn't have

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any questions or comments for Travis at this time

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that way of thinking ... they're out Travis I'm just

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gonna ask one so I hate use what housekeeping issue

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because this is only as the anything but housekeeping but

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is this

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is this really more administration than it is change

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our

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... ... I I would jobs the fact that it

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is exactly that it's more of an administrative ... attraction

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of that of that building map ... rather than than

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any actual physical change on the property

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thank you ... with that there's ... make colleagues have

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any other questions for Travis

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and Madame clerk you have ... you have gone through

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all the ... public comments correct

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that's correct Mister chair and I confirm that and no

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one has registered to speak at today's public meeting

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thank you ... with that I believe we can close

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off B. one Madame clerk

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that's correct Mister chair thank you thank you with that

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we ... we have three more on the agenda today

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... B. two which is a public meeting revisions to

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the sale or other deposit deposition of land policy that's

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P. O. L. C. or zero seven zero two

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what is being proposed staff are recommending repealing replacing the

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current sailing deposition of land policy P. O. L. C.

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O. R. zero seven zero two two include revisions that

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will make the process clearer and more efficient the revised

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draft policy and supporting process supports council's direction not to

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consider any request to sell town owned waterfront property staff

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are suggesting there were land as been identified as road

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allowance street lane way fairly or is of the sizes

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deemed not to be building lot actually registered on title

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and there shall be no future requests for building permits

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or vacancies considered for subject lands because it because of

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it being acquired from the town to protect the overall

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feel and character of the local area the current policy

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allows for exclusions for land formerly used for railway lines

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staff suggested that this reference to be removed and the

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land that was formerly a railway line in most cases

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is currently with alignment of the Georgian trail

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for the exception of the sections of the trail that

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have an existing realignment staff recommend that no sale of

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these lands that be part of the former railway line

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shall be considered for potential disposition or surpluses for the

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foreseeable future town staff recommend a process where twice a

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year consideration may be brought forward to consider land surplus

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with the purpose

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being to dispose of land from the town's current land

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inventory

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we cannot start by about employers as a without interacting

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with the clerk

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thank you ... I just wanted to make mention that

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notice of this public meeting has been given in accordance

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with our notice policy in response comments have been received

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I confirm that all the comments received were circulated to

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council in their entirety and what it I'm reading right

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now is just a summary of those seen comments

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I'm Paul Graham and Sally leopard we are in support

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of the provision to prohibit the sale of publicly owned

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let owned waterfront lands being road allowances etcetera the town

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has a scarcity of publicly accessible waterfront lands considering the

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extent of our shore line thus protecting the what the

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lands we have is vital the town is encouraged not

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only to protect the lands we all but to develop

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a water front acquisition policy in order to take advantage

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of extending public access to the waterfront when opportunities arise

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thank you for the opportunity to provide our comments from

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John roar with respect to the public meeting to be

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held on January twenty fourth at one PM I have

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two questions with two parts as they relate to adjoining

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owners that have joined town owned lands described as a

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stopped up non traveled road allowance that may be deemed

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surplus these may have been stopped up and close but

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it joined both residential and employment lands currently my driveway

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and garage is at the end of a stocked up

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non traveled road allowance stopped up stopped up post op

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motion is also stopped off close our motion to in

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two in a row allowance on the other side the

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services access to employment lands the full length of my

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property adjoins a non traveled road allowance my driveway has

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utilized this non travel road allowance since the nineteen fifties

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as a provides access to my garage which is at

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the end of the non travel grow allowance question number

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one eight with the surplus lands be considered a joining

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to commercial lands where the residential I'm traveled road loan

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stoppage is located where employment or I see I land

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begins and B. what guidelines are are being discussed that

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prevented commercial purchaser from acquiring surplus lands in a residential

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zone and

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using them as an access road to the employment lands

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question number two

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eight I have been steward of the land since I

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moved to the area in two thousand fifteen what liabilities

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what I face if the appraised value of this land

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is deemed unaffordable and another purchases that being if another

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purchases this property when I lose my access to my

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driveway and garage thank you for taking the time to

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respond to my questions from Allison mackenzie as an adjoining

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landowner to a possible disposition of a road allowance I'm

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wondering about the possibility of a first right of refusal

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to purchase this land I would also like to ask

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whether the flow chart included in this file is representative

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of how things are going to proceed in the future

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alright this is the past flowchart and Mister chair ...

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Heery Burkman also provided comments Mr Bergman is on the

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line so I will leave it to Mr Bergman to

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provide those comments you may be having some technical ...

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difficulties with the sound that we'll see if you can

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provide those comments or questions thank you Karina Mr Bergman

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can you hear us

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you can you hear me now go to your telephone

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it's just big through the phone there you go

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no that's that's worse

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maybe in your microphone on the computer Mr Bergman

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while he's doing that Mister chair ... if you wanted

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to go to the town presentation Shawn Everett CA ...

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he has a presentation

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to provide where we owe to the public actually all

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right ... thank you so with that ... Mr Brookman

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well your figure that out where to go to R.

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C. A. O. Sean Everitt Sean Doherty

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thank you at Deputy Mayor aboard you know

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if you can go to the next slide yeah

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so just a bit of an overview of how we

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got here ... we broader brought forward a ... ...

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report in November first of twenty twenty one I would

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line ... the ability for us to move for with

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this public meeting ... which shall over the Christmas break

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identified the January the twenty fourth is being ... today

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being that the date for the public meeting next light

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as you can see the

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public notice in the approval process ... we've all the

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required public notice ... ... process ... with some additional

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time being provide it and ... looking towards ... report

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coming back to council ... with follow up to this

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public meeting ... that would be at anticipating February the

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fifteenth and if all goes well and we're able to

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provide the information for council we would see the ...

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of the March twenty eighth ... council are considering the

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recommendations from the March fifteenth committee of the whole next

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slide

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the key things that ... we want to identify through

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this ... public meeting is first that we already have

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an existing land disposition of Policy but thought it would

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be appropriate time to have of some ... ... revisions

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review completed ... we're seeing over the last number of

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years a definite intake ... opted to the number of

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requests for ... potential disposition of lands from a residence

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... council had made it very clear ... decision and

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recommendation ... for us not to for staff not to

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consider town water front properties as being surplus this ...

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... staff is moving forward with that same understanding that

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... water front access that would not be considered for

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... disposition of lands I think one of the key

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areas and and some of the comments received thus far

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to the public in regards to the road allowance in

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the streets and laneways and fire lanes ... there is

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a lot of work and I think some additional explanation

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that we're happy to provide through the follow up to

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the public meeting these are actually the areas that you

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know we're very interested in and having further discussions with

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council just to consider ... on our on a regular

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and very consistent basis how we deal with these ...

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... these types of properties where they may be a

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stopped up in close around on open road allowance or

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fire lane ... we feel that the municipality is in

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a position where we would like to get the clarity

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and consistency of how we deal with these on a

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regular basis ... and one of the key things in

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this goes back a number of years ago the protection

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of the Jordan trail is as critical and one of

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one of the things that we believe that should be

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in the disposition of land policy very clearly is that

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no areas within the Georgian trail will be considered a

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surplus in the future ... just for the clarity in

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and again the consistency for individuals who may wish to

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... make that request

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it would be ... very ... very handy for staff

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to be able to just clearly state that the lands

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that ... affect the Jordan trail would not be considered

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... the other key thing which is that we thought

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it was was a good idea was to be able

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to bring the council twice per year there the request

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for this positions of land so ... that way we

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could be doing in a very consistent and transparent ...

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method where ... council would be considering any disposition of

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land are as a group as opposed to one office

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the other one of us are very you know

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they're fine but for council to be able to take

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a look on a regular basis of any request in

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a very ... consistent manner I think would be very

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beneficial ... just when you start consideration are considering where

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potential lands could be declared surplus

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the next slide thank you grant ... the appraisals for

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specific types of land and we're very very clear that

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not these would not be for building a redevelopment properties

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we believe that there is the ... a benefit to

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getting appraisals done for our ... certain types of lands

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whether or not there be per per meter per square

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meter per ... that could be wrong allowances or we

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could just simply say this is this these these appraisals

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would actually create the minimum bets um so we were

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to go out and say you know this road allowance

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I don't run allowance that's been stopped up in close

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that it meets all the requirements as we went through

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a public process public consultation process we could just simply

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say based on the appraised value this is the minimum

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bid ... ... we have seen in the past where

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you know trying to do the appraisals as we go

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...

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it it it becomes very very ... time ... time

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management sort of gets thrown out the window because it

521
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is it is sometimes very hard from a timeliness to

522
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,610
get appraisals done so this would just allow us to

523
00:37:25,610 --> 00:37:29,050
move the process through from appraisal process the one key

524
00:37:29,050 --> 00:37:30,990
thing that I do want to make very clear through

525
00:37:30,990 --> 00:37:34,960
this disposition of land policy is that this is only

526
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,550
the process for council to be brought forward a recommendation

527
00:37:39,550 --> 00:37:44,810
to consider lands surplus this does not replace the public

528
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,900
consultation process so that's still process staff could come forward

529
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:53,800
to council and suggest three or four different piece of

530
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,270
the property is being concise being able to be considered

531
00:37:57,770 --> 00:37:59,440
for this position

532
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,510
if council so where's the would still require ... staff

533
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:06,890
would still require council approval to initiate the actual public

534
00:38:06,890 --> 00:38:10,540
consultation process so I know that there is a there

535
00:38:10,540 --> 00:38:13,980
is a fear that this would ... maybe replace that

536
00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:16,590
does not replace it all this just to simply allows

537
00:38:16,590 --> 00:38:19,520
us to get the subject matter in front of council

538
00:38:19,660 --> 00:38:22,930
if council wished to for most for staff to initiate

539
00:38:22,930 --> 00:38:27,620
the public process to then consider lands surplus dot public

540
00:38:27,620 --> 00:38:31,090
process would still take place and council with that and

541
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:33,310
with the benefit of hearing from the public and local

542
00:38:33,310 --> 00:38:36,120
residents of whether or not they believe it's a good

543
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:41,790
idea to sell land that process is still in place

544
00:38:41,790 --> 00:38:44,630
the next slide

545
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:47,840
so next steps is ... we we plan on on

546
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,640
receiving ... reviewing the public comments that have been received

547
00:38:51,940 --> 00:38:55,760
... and then provide a follow up report we've identified

548
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,830
February the fifteenth ... to bring up a follow up

549
00:38:58,830 --> 00:39:02,170
report back to committee the hall ... and some of

550
00:39:02,210 --> 00:39:05,350
the ... the comments that we've received to date R.

551
00:39:05,350 --> 00:39:08,660
one R. wanna thank the public for providing those ...

552
00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:11,870
they acted they have provided some good additional insight for

553
00:39:11,870 --> 00:39:15,090
staff to be able to go back and ... and

554
00:39:15,090 --> 00:39:18,830
review ... those comments and also provide the clarity that

555
00:39:18,830 --> 00:39:21,220
... the cap and that the public can council's looking

556
00:39:21,220 --> 00:39:25,590
for thank you for that

557
00:39:25,590 --> 00:39:27,580
thank you shot

558
00:39:27,580 --> 00:39:30,420
... with that before I go to the council and

559
00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:35,010
see if Mr Bergman is ...

560
00:39:35,010 --> 00:39:38,980
it is available for his comment

561
00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:42,160
can you run with you your

562
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,860
Mr back when are you able to hear style yes

563
00:39:46,860 --> 00:39:49,100
on the tele yes we can are you through the

564
00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:53,740
telephone that's great okay with apologies sorry ... I bought

565
00:39:53,740 --> 00:39:56,620
a new computer a week ago and I'm having trouble

566
00:39:56,620 --> 00:40:01,030
connecting to teams ... might sound ... I can see

567
00:40:01,030 --> 00:40:05,910
that ... I'm there ... video Weiss ...

568
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:10,420
I have no substantial ... issues with that what is

569
00:40:10,420 --> 00:40:14,750
proposed ... what I do note and I've sent a

570
00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:21,210
letter is that the official policy only does half of

571
00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:26,750
what the province intense and the province by the Municipal

572
00:40:26,750 --> 00:40:32,300
actors established that the municipality shall have an official policy

573
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:38,540
that deals with sales and other dispositions of land

574
00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:42,930
and if one looks through the existing policy

575
00:40:42,930 --> 00:40:46,840
dating back to two thousand and eight it only deals

576
00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:51,540
with sales it doesn't deal with other dispositions of land

577
00:40:51,930 --> 00:40:57,270
although which entitles sale and other dispositions of land ...

578
00:40:57,270 --> 00:41:03,100
I provided a ... a copy of the existing policy

579
00:41:03,530 --> 00:41:08,220
and ... I'm uncertain effect can be showing online and

580
00:41:08,220 --> 00:41:13,020
I will ... to show ... by color highlighting exactly

581
00:41:13,020 --> 00:41:18,330
what I'm referring to is is that possible

582
00:41:18,330 --> 00:41:20,410
Mr it

583
00:41:20,410 --> 00:41:23,900
thank you so the comments that that Mr Bergman's sent

584
00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:27,020
and they were circulated to council in their entirety we

585
00:41:27,020 --> 00:41:28,970
don't we have the policy here in front of us

586
00:41:28,970 --> 00:41:31,700
but we don't have is highlighted document in front of

587
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:36,020
us oh okay well alright then then we'll proceed so

588
00:41:36,050 --> 00:41:38,380
you can see the subject title on page one of

589
00:41:38,380 --> 00:41:42,620
sailing of the disposition of land ... the policy direction

590
00:41:42,650 --> 00:41:47,180
is the sale another disposition of land the application of

591
00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:50,750
the bottom line refers to the sale and other disposition

592
00:41:50,750 --> 00:41:54,850
of land but then when we had two pages to

593
00:41:54,850 --> 00:41:58,910
through the conclusion there are no more references to other

594
00:41:58,910 --> 00:42:02,580
dispositions of laughter it's all sales that's what happens if

595
00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:07,200
you sell ... the same with the current with the

596
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,910
proposed new policy ... it is called the policy for

597
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:15,140
the sale of and disposition of land but it only

598
00:42:15,170 --> 00:42:19,230
deals with sales and so one would ask for what

599
00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:23,580
is other disposition of land well it would include at

600
00:42:23,580 --> 00:42:27,830
least it would include a ... a license it would

601
00:42:27,830 --> 00:42:30,950
include a right of way it would include a permit

602
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,390
so there are so many ways that one can actually

603
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,890
... have a transaction with respect to lamb that is

604
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:43,290
not a sales so what is happening here is the

605
00:42:43,290 --> 00:42:47,510
town ... and I believe this happened sort of inadvertently

606
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:51,020
dating back to prior to two thousand and eight ...

607
00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:55,510
has only concerned itself with sales but you no one

608
00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:58,800
can the end and by the way I I don't

609
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:04,300
know offhand where to locate the registry of town owned

610
00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:07,600
lands according to this document it's supposed to be a

611
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,680
public document but when I go to the ... the

612
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,590
website I I can't locate it but the town owns

613
00:43:14,620 --> 00:43:19,840
land and road allowances and rapes and throughout the ...

614
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,000
is

615
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:28,080
its geographic boundaries and ... there are future developments ...

616
00:43:28,110 --> 00:43:34,080
both for the infrastructure and ... you know residential ...

617
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:39,810
in the prospect and the town can basically circumvent all

618
00:43:39,810 --> 00:43:45,170
these policies are for sale by simply leasing the lands

619
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,270
giving a right away over the lands giving a right

620
00:43:48,270 --> 00:43:51,800
to occupy the lands giving a license for the lands

621
00:43:52,060 --> 00:43:57,790
so in that regard ... this policy is is basically

622
00:43:57,820 --> 00:44:01,550
half good it doesn't cover half of what the municipal

623
00:44:01,550 --> 00:44:06,460
act says that it's supposed to cover and ... ...

624
00:44:06,460 --> 00:44:10,870
it's an easy oversight but there are too many transactions

625
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:15,800
that can possibly happen going forward ... for ... you

626
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,740
know such an oversight to be allowed to continue it

627
00:44:18,740 --> 00:44:20,580
also is

628
00:44:20,580 --> 00:44:25,230
strictly speaking in violation of the municipal act requirements I'm

629
00:44:25,260 --> 00:44:28,490
at a few comments that I did make ... in

630
00:44:28,490 --> 00:44:33,750
my letter with respect to what is proposed ... the

631
00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:39,850
... number one was the word ... best use ...

632
00:44:39,850 --> 00:44:44,380
as a modifier of fair market value ... I I

633
00:44:44,380 --> 00:44:47,020
I I I realize this is the thorny issue and

634
00:44:47,020 --> 00:44:50,720
it's very difficult ... but ... in one place the

635
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:54,900
proposed new policy says that they will be ... ...

636
00:44:54,900 --> 00:45:03,010
potentially requesting a best use fair market value appraisal well

637
00:45:03,010 --> 00:45:06,830
we'll be ... ... that that that will be an

638
00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:11,990
interesting challenge ... you know to obtain exactly that appraisal

639
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:17,310
I understand the the the complexity ... is there there

640
00:45:17,310 --> 00:45:22,770
is we're doing and the ... ... you know that

641
00:45:22,770 --> 00:45:25,820
the public benefit may be considered ... but in my

642
00:45:25,820 --> 00:45:29,860
letter I basically ask what is the best use for

643
00:45:29,860 --> 00:45:33,450
a piece of property that could potentially be a park

644
00:45:33,450 --> 00:45:35,930
or a beach is at a park or a beach

645
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,460
or is it a ... commercial subdivision

646
00:45:40,460 --> 00:45:45,060
and ... recently I was ... ... in ... southern

647
00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:48,270
Ontario town driving along and I noticed all these beautiful

648
00:45:48,270 --> 00:45:53,480
beach fronts and very expensive ... you know subdivision country

649
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,320
and ... and that thought that came to my mind

650
00:45:57,810 --> 00:46:01,580
... there is an out clause one G. of the

651
00:46:01,580 --> 00:46:06,890
procedures of the ... sorry clause one a of the

652
00:46:06,890 --> 00:46:11,950
procedures ... and that deals with requests and I believe

653
00:46:11,950 --> 00:46:15,140
it's just the sort of garbled for lack of a

654
00:46:15,140 --> 00:46:18,980
better description request may be received and considered twice per

655
00:46:18,980 --> 00:46:22,170
year and that it goes on to say formal requests

656
00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:25,120
will be submitted to the town via a formal request

657
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,130
for consideration

658
00:46:27,130 --> 00:46:35,430
by individuals groups and our corporations or number company now

659
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:38,910
... I I don't know what's meant by that does

660
00:46:38,910 --> 00:46:42,250
the town have corporations and a number company that can

661
00:46:42,250 --> 00:46:45,800
be making requests or is it just basically a a

662
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,420
clause that needs to be ... ... we worked hard

663
00:46:50,420 --> 00:46:54,410
because as it stands it sounds like the town's corporations

664
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:58,300
maybe making requests to buy town owned land but that

665
00:46:58,300 --> 00:47:02,640
doesn't make sense so ... just to a tiny issue

666
00:47:03,050 --> 00:47:06,310
and then the final thought I had was ... in

667
00:47:06,310 --> 00:47:11,110
the timing clause under proposed call us proposed policy clause

668
00:47:11,110 --> 00:47:16,090
one G. it refers depending council direction to to clear

669
00:47:16,090 --> 00:47:21,290
the town owned lands surplus staff may proceed with the

670
00:47:21,290 --> 00:47:25,550
disposition of town owned land and follow the process outlined

671
00:47:25,950 --> 00:47:29,870
and I I do believe that the intention is that

672
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:37,240
... council would direct before staff proceeds with the any

673
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:42,310
disposition ... so other than that ... might be ...

674
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,250
a better comments are in my letter and if you

675
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,950
can turn your attention when you have a chance to

676
00:47:49,950 --> 00:47:53,530
the color highlighted versions of the existing policy on the

677
00:47:53,530 --> 00:47:59,010
current policy you'll notice thank thanks means sale and you'll

678
00:47:59,010 --> 00:48:01,910
notice in those pages where they're at the highlighting is

679
00:48:01,910 --> 00:48:06,590
just paying there is no green meaning for other dispositions

680
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:10,240
so ... I'm available to my attorney questions you may

681
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:12,980
wish to ask

682
00:48:12,980 --> 00:48:16,320
thank you Mr Bergman ... during during the the public

683
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,940
section ... we'll take that take the notes in from

684
00:48:18,970 --> 00:48:22,980
from yourself and ... there's normally not back forth on

685
00:48:22,980 --> 00:48:25,170
the on the on the public comments section but I

686
00:48:25,170 --> 00:48:28,320
know I saw our CEO us writing notes as you're

687
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,150
going along ... for that process most definitely ... so

688
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:34,670
Sean if you wanna comment on that

689
00:48:34,670 --> 00:48:37,600
thank you W. more Deputy Mayor working out I wanna

690
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,330
thank ... misprint for forced comments I will ensure that

691
00:48:41,330 --> 00:48:45,200
those comments and the review of his document ... are

692
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,180
part of the ... report follow up report to the

693
00:48:49,180 --> 00:48:53,580
public being great points ... you know very helpful ...

694
00:48:53,580 --> 00:48:57,980
from from the perspective of of this sale as compared

695
00:48:57,980 --> 00:49:01,100
to the lease ... and the license in the right

696
00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:04,340
way comments so those ... those points will be ...

697
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:08,090
included in the next ... follow up report and ...

698
00:49:08,340 --> 00:49:11,030
... I would suggest that we may I may actually

699
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:13,630
retired at some point during the drafting of that report

700
00:49:13,630 --> 00:49:16,140
to ... Mr Bergman just to make sure that we're

701
00:49:16,140 --> 00:49:19,490
on the right page so ... very very very helpful

702
00:49:19,490 --> 00:49:24,020
comments are being received thank you

703
00:49:24,020 --> 00:49:25,980
yes thank you Mr Bergman the very very clear and

704
00:49:25,980 --> 00:49:28,980
concise comments and ... you know if if that's okay

705
00:49:28,980 --> 00:49:31,200
with you than I do the sale may reach out

706
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,680
to you well is drafting its report if that's alright

707
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,390
with you

708
00:49:35,390 --> 00:49:37,290
yes it is thank you

709
00:49:37,290 --> 00:49:39,660
thank you very much for your comments Mr Bergman boy

710
00:49:39,660 --> 00:49:43,070
were received ... with that man clerk I see councillor

711
00:49:43,070 --> 00:49:45,120
Sampson has joined the meeting if you want to reflect

712
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,860
that in the minutes

713
00:49:46,860 --> 00:49:48,930
and

714
00:49:48,930 --> 00:49:52,960
and with that ... I will go to the counsel

715
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,970
table for questions for Mister Everett ... before we go

716
00:49:56,970 --> 00:50:00,910
back to the other comments so with that ...

717
00:50:00,910 --> 00:50:03,750
council colleagues of my questions for

718
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:06,510
for Sean press CEO

719
00:50:06,510 --> 00:50:11,350
archer has presentation

720
00:50:11,350 --> 00:50:15,860
any comments relating to the the policy

721
00:50:15,860 --> 00:50:19,030
that we have in front of this

722
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:21,940
all right ... seeing none madam clerk of any public

723
00:50:21,970 --> 00:50:26,810
I'm sorry R. all comments have been received and read

724
00:50:26,810 --> 00:50:29,600
that's right ... Mr chair all comments have been read

725
00:50:29,810 --> 00:50:33,420
Mr Brookman provided his comments ... verbally so I did

726
00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:37,260
not read his his correspondence thank you

727
00:50:37,260 --> 00:50:39,370
thank you and Mister Berger that has been distributed to

728
00:50:39,370 --> 00:50:42,540
all staff as well as anybody's in writing

729
00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:45,200
so what that meant clerk I can close off ...

730
00:50:45,630 --> 00:50:49,300
B. two thank you to all the people that have

731
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:52,040
responded and I just wanna make sure that ...

732
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,130
M. weather's questions and comments to come in that staff

733
00:50:56,130 --> 00:50:57,680
and I know that is this ... just want to

734
00:50:57,980 --> 00:50:59,840
say that they will be they will be addressed and

735
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,960
sent back out to ... when when people did ask

736
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,600
questions part as part of their correspondence to the proper

737
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,220
department will reach out a business six years ago greetings

738
00:51:08,310 --> 00:51:10,060
it's good is one but the comment there think you

739
00:51:10,730 --> 00:51:14,190
... with that amount of parking not sure if that

740
00:51:14,190 --> 00:51:16,610
matters here yet so I can continue on to be

741
00:51:16,610 --> 00:51:20,590
three ... with the addition of our councillor Sampson

742
00:51:20,590 --> 00:51:23,520
... B. three is revisions to the corporate hiring of

743
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:28,350
employees policy peel L. C. O. R. zero seven zero

744
00:51:28,350 --> 00:51:33,460
six what is being proposed staff recommended repealing replacing the

745
00:51:33,460 --> 00:51:36,080
current hiring of employees policy P. O. L. C. O.

746
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,450
R. zero seven zero six to include revisions that will

747
00:51:39,450 --> 00:51:43,800
provide efficiencies to the current recruitment and selection process recommendations

748
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,640
and revisions will include updates to employee status definition to

749
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,470
provide more clarity on permanent temporary and seasonal employment types

750
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:56,540
additional statement on legislative requirements under the human Ontario merry

751
00:51:56,540 --> 00:51:58,950
parkland

752
00:51:58,950 --> 00:52:03,240
is now exiting and accessibility for Ontarians with disabilities act

753
00:52:03,350 --> 00:52:07,000
twenty oh five and how the town complies with the

754
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,440
integrated standards regulation removing barriers Director current process upon hire

755
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,980
additional statement the unionized positions we posted in accordance with

756
00:52:15,980 --> 00:52:18,290
the collective agreement

757
00:52:18,290 --> 00:52:22,340
and for updates job posting and advertising timelines requirements that

758
00:52:22,340 --> 00:52:24,910
incorporate new strategies and flexibility to allow staff to be

759
00:52:24,910 --> 00:52:29,180
more responsive staffing needs they can in that consistently changing

760
00:52:29,180 --> 00:52:32,260
and competitive labor market

761
00:52:32,260 --> 00:52:36,320
so with that man clerk ... I will have any

762
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,850
comments been around with that bit been received from the

763
00:52:38,850 --> 00:52:42,200
public thank you Mr chair I can permit notice of

764
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,750
this public meeting was given in accordance with the town's

765
00:52:44,750 --> 00:52:49,080
notice policy in response no comments have been received and

766
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,500
Serra trainer of the manager of HR is here to

767
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:54,460
provide a presentation

768
00:52:54,460 --> 00:52:56,390
welcome Sir and thank you all turn the Mike over

769
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:58,580
to you for your presentation

770
00:52:58,580 --> 00:53:01,610
thank you and good afternoon and so you can go

771
00:53:01,610 --> 00:53:06,100
to next slide please greener thank you so ... in

772
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:09,310
terms of where we are today following direction from council

773
00:53:09,310 --> 00:53:12,770
at the twenty nine November twenty ninth meeting and stuff

774
00:53:12,770 --> 00:53:16,540
about the draft hiring employees policy to this public meeting

775
00:53:16,540 --> 00:53:20,310
to receive comments as required under the town's noticed policy

776
00:53:20,830 --> 00:53:23,390
and next slide

777
00:53:23,390 --> 00:53:26,760
thank you so this just gives an overview of the

778
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,830
process we've taken today to ensuring adequate notice of the

779
00:53:29,830 --> 00:53:33,560
public meeting has been provided and from this meeting that

780
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,910
timeline by which will report back to committee and council

781
00:53:36,910 --> 00:53:43,450
the recommendations and implied that we received next please

782
00:53:43,450 --> 00:53:47,770
all right so I'm next couple slices give ... overview

783
00:53:47,770 --> 00:53:52,120
of the prize River I'm sorry revised revisions to the

784
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,520
policy and we'll go through all that is it a

785
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,050
provisions but I'll just highlight it use the staff are

786
00:53:58,050 --> 00:54:03,930
recommending strength strengthening the language regarding legislative requirements on the

787
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,690
Ontario human rights code in accommodating employees and accessibility through

788
00:54:07,690 --> 00:54:11,630
the recruitment process as well as updating some definitions to

789
00:54:11,630 --> 00:54:15,140
provide a bit more clarity regarding employment status ... we've

790
00:54:15,140 --> 00:54:19,210
also enhanced our internal process for hiring managers to initiate

791
00:54:19,210 --> 00:54:23,860
the recruitment process uniforms ... we've also added some language

792
00:54:23,890 --> 00:54:28,030
... just around the improper influencing our permanent selection decisions

793
00:54:28,030 --> 00:54:30,810
and that's with just within the consequences for non compliance

794
00:54:30,810 --> 00:54:32,380
section

795
00:54:32,380 --> 00:54:35,480
in the next slide please all right so most of

796
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,360
the recommended revisions are around job posting and advertising of

797
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,250
positions and really the intent is to incorporate new strategy

798
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,930
and the bucs ability to allow staff to be more

799
00:54:46,930 --> 00:54:51,440
responsive and nimble to developing conditions while ensuring ... a

800
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,440
fair consistent and transparent hiring process and what is very

801
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,220
much at competitive labor market

802
00:54:58,220 --> 00:55:01,090
the some of those suggest revisions include reducing the number

803
00:55:01,090 --> 00:55:02,060
of

804
00:55:02,060 --> 00:55:05,630
business days a position would be posted for so from

805
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:09,070
ten to five business days ... and there would be

806
00:55:09,070 --> 00:55:12,820
still that option or if the hiring manager to extend

807
00:55:13,210 --> 00:55:16,470
our that post hosting if they felt it was necessary

808
00:55:16,750 --> 00:55:21,740
... allowing for temporary contract contracts of any duration to

809
00:55:21,740 --> 00:55:25,180
be posted internally first and that would just give her

810
00:55:25,180 --> 00:55:29,590
employees priority consideration for these opportunities so to promote career

811
00:55:29,590 --> 00:55:33,880
development cross training assists with succession planning and provide opportunity

812
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,430
for employees to take on some special work assignment

813
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:40,250
and another suggest revision and again in an effort to

814
00:55:40,250 --> 00:55:44,350
promote employees from within and retain our greats

815
00:55:44,350 --> 00:55:47,840
yeah if a temporary position becomes permanent so whether that

816
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,800
be through the budget process or ... incumbent not returning

817
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,850
from a leave of absence an employee in a temporary

818
00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:56,620
role would be placed in a permanent position with out

819
00:55:56,620 --> 00:56:01,630
of competition subject to acceptable performance ... and the director's

820
00:56:01,630 --> 00:56:03,460
approval

821
00:56:03,460 --> 00:56:07,510
and next slide please

822
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:10,750
so those there again just some overview an overview of

823
00:56:10,750 --> 00:56:13,940
some of the proposed revisions and in terms of next

824
00:56:13,940 --> 00:56:18,340
steps ... doppler view public comment that we received I

825
00:56:18,340 --> 00:56:22,330
had to date ... and any suggestion that we received

826
00:56:22,330 --> 00:56:26,390
from council during this public meeting hi as well including

827
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:28,550
some of the comments that we did receive at the

828
00:56:28,550 --> 00:56:31,910
November twenty third street home meeting as well and then

829
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:35,390
the report will be brought forward February fifteenth committee of

830
00:56:35,390 --> 00:56:37,000
the whole meeting

831
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,040
addicts thank you and all of minutes any comments or

832
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,860
questions that

833
00:56:41,860 --> 00:56:43,410
council may have

834
00:56:43,410 --> 00:56:46,420
thank you Sir ... for the presentation with that ...

835
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:50,700
the floor is open to the council colleagues for questions

836
00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:53,420
for our human resources department in relation to this new

837
00:56:53,420 --> 00:56:56,440
policy change

838
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:02,030
are there any questions for Sir

839
00:57:02,030 --> 00:57:04,420
not seeing any site just of it jabber quick when

840
00:57:04,420 --> 00:57:08,110
... I assume that ... because there the tighter competitive

841
00:57:08,110 --> 00:57:10,230
market and a lot of these changes are being made

842
00:57:10,270 --> 00:57:13,500
and ... I assume that ... from people you compete

843
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:18,660
against are making similar changes

844
00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:22,100
but it hasn't been a discussion within the HR network

845
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:25,950
but again we are trying to really justify their own

846
00:57:25,950 --> 00:57:29,230
process then and where we can be more competitive responsive

847
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,390
... at was really ... weren't an internal process soliciting

848
00:57:33,390 --> 00:57:37,520
feedback from hiring interested to make these recommended changes

849
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,950
good to know thank you ... without announcing any other

850
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:45,730
questions ... Madame clerk over you any that would close

851
00:57:45,730 --> 00:57:49,320
the public comments correct that's correct Mister chair no additional

852
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,570
public comments regarding agenda item be three

853
00:57:52,570 --> 00:57:54,640
thank you with that we can close off the three

854
00:57:55,170 --> 00:57:57,690
and ...

855
00:57:57,690 --> 00:58:01,710
as I have not seen the merit believe still a

856
00:58:01,710 --> 00:58:05,430
conference I will continue on with B. for madam clerk

857
00:58:05,460 --> 00:58:07,420
...

858
00:58:07,420 --> 00:58:11,270
with regard to your vision substantial bylaw at twenty twenty

859
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:13,890
one seventy six as it relates to timelines associate with

860
00:58:13,890 --> 00:58:18,020
the release of agendas what is being proposed the blue

861
00:58:18,020 --> 00:58:20,730
mountains council will be holding a public meeting to receive

862
00:58:20,730 --> 00:58:23,560
comments on the proposed changes of the procedure bylaw twenty

863
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,490
twenty one dash seventy six as it relates to timelines

864
00:58:26,490 --> 00:58:31,190
associated with the release of objectives number one move the

865
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:33,870
timeline for the release of agendas to Monday at three

866
00:58:33,870 --> 00:58:36,600
PM one week in advance of the meeting from the

867
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,640
current Wednesday at three PM five days in advance of

868
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,020
the meeting

869
00:58:41,020 --> 00:58:44,500
to move the deadline for submission of correspondence or a

870
00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:48,270
deputation request to Friday at nine AM ten days in

871
00:58:48,270 --> 00:58:51,330
advance of the meeting from the current Monday at nine

872
00:58:51,330 --> 00:58:54,740
AM one week in advance of the meeting

873
00:58:54,740 --> 00:58:57,690
and number three is move the deadline for submission of

874
00:58:57,690 --> 00:59:01,330
correspondence or deputations following the release of an agenda to

875
00:59:01,330 --> 00:59:04,530
Wednesday at twelve noon five days in advance of the

876
00:59:04,530 --> 00:59:07,700
meeting my current Friday twelve noon three days in advance

877
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:09,000
of the meeting

878
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,950
doesn't close changes ... without Madame clerk will turn it

879
00:59:11,950 --> 00:59:15,500
over to you for public comments received

880
00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:18,100
thank you Mr chair notice of this public meeting was

881
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:21,630
given in accordance with the town's notice policy in response

882
00:59:21,780 --> 00:59:25,530
to comments have been received the first being a from

883
00:59:25,610 --> 00:59:30,440
the ... communications advisory committee ... their motion is as

884
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,330
follows where's the committees what supports the earlier release of

885
00:59:34,330 --> 00:59:37,660
gender and agenda items and where's the public has been

886
00:59:37,660 --> 00:59:40,970
following the existing agenda released process for the last ten

887
00:59:40,970 --> 00:59:45,140
years the communications advisory committee recommends that the deadline to

888
00:59:45,140 --> 00:59:49,060
provide deputations any correspondence from the public remain the same

889
00:59:49,090 --> 00:59:51,820
being Monday at nine AM

890
00:59:51,820 --> 00:59:55,590
and from Blue Mountain ratepayers association this is from Terry

891
00:59:55,590 --> 01:00:00,430
Keller I read the comments now I'm Terry Keller in

892
01:00:00,430 --> 01:00:02,860
my comments on behalf of myself and the Blue Mountain

893
01:00:02,860 --> 01:00:06,890
ratepayers association I am currently on that board we support

894
01:00:06,890 --> 01:00:09,460
the proposal to move the release of the agenda as

895
01:00:09,460 --> 01:00:12,440
from Wednesday to the Monday being seven days before the

896
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,260
meetings this move will give ratepayers who may have an

897
01:00:15,260 --> 01:00:18,040
interest or concern with an item on and that any

898
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,920
agenda and earlier opportunity to research research and prepare however

899
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,840
the proposed date for the submission of correspondence or deputation

900
01:00:27,060 --> 01:00:30,190
if the taxpayer is to respond to a concern remains

901
01:00:30,190 --> 01:00:34,110
at forty five hours after the agendas publication and our

902
01:00:34,110 --> 01:00:38,520
experience forty five hours is not adequate to research consult

903
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,070
and to prepare proper response members of committees of the

904
01:00:42,070 --> 01:00:45,670
blue route repairs Association have always struggled with and sometimes

905
01:00:45,670 --> 01:00:48,810
fail to meet the short timeline would it be possible

906
01:00:48,810 --> 01:00:51,200
to have the deadline at nine AM on the Friday

907
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,380
prior to the meeting

908
01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:56,880
as volunteers we have neither managers nor staff to handle

909
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,670
the work and so we must budget our time many

910
01:00:59,670 --> 01:01:02,920
interested citizens have working families and often the research and

911
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,800
preparation must be accomplished in the evenings we feel that

912
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,140
this would encourage more more participation by taxpayers worth both

913
01:01:11,140 --> 01:01:15,110
working and retired the process can be intimidating and the

914
01:01:15,110 --> 01:01:18,420
average citizen it made it takes time to find out

915
01:01:18,420 --> 01:01:21,630
what the process is and to work through it participation

916
01:01:21,630 --> 01:01:24,220
in a democracy is everyone's right and this is just

917
01:01:24,220 --> 01:01:27,240
the role should allow that participation to be easy and

918
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,780
achievable please consider this recommendation as it comes from the

919
01:01:30,780 --> 01:01:36,850
extensive experience of art association and that's it Mr chair

920
01:01:36,850 --> 01:01:39,860
thank you Madame clerk and thank you to the communications

921
01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:42,880
the treasury committee as well as ...

922
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,790
Terry and ... the PMR A. for their comments without

923
01:01:45,790 --> 01:01:50,800
a water bacteriophage station Madame clerk thank you Mr chair

924
01:01:51,220 --> 01:01:54,080
so I have a small presentation just to go over

925
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,180
the proposed changes

926
01:01:56,180 --> 01:01:59,770
I'm on the second slide you'll see um we received

927
01:01:59,900 --> 01:02:02,540
a direction from council to move forward with the public

928
01:02:02,540 --> 01:02:06,830
meeting at today to ... provide ... to allow the

929
01:02:06,830 --> 01:02:09,530
public an opportunity to provide their comments in response to

930
01:02:09,530 --> 01:02:12,410
the proposed changes

931
01:02:12,410 --> 01:02:15,550
the next slide shows of the public notice and approval

932
01:02:15,550 --> 01:02:20,860
process we received that ... council direction we advertised on

933
01:02:20,940 --> 01:02:24,920
in the newspaper and on the town's website we ...

934
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,970
received correspondence interest in response being two comments

935
01:02:29,970 --> 01:02:33,390
... if the depending on on how many comments are

936
01:02:33,390 --> 01:02:36,290
received to date I'm hoping to provide a follow up

937
01:02:36,290 --> 01:02:39,140
report to the public meeting ... to the committee of

938
01:02:39,140 --> 01:02:42,150
the whole meeting on February the first

939
01:02:42,150 --> 01:02:45,300
and recommendations from February first maybe the whole will be

940
01:02:45,410 --> 01:02:49,080
considered by council on February the fourteenth

941
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,400
she was gonna do a short overview of the proposed

942
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,080
revisions

943
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,580
so

944
01:02:55,580 --> 01:03:00,480
the proposed revisions are the deputation requesting correspondences are to

945
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,790
be included on the council committee the whole agenda must

946
01:03:02,790 --> 01:03:05,270
be received by the clerk's office by nine AM on

947
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:07,830
the Friday being ten days in advance of the subject

948
01:03:07,830 --> 01:03:09,250
meeting

949
01:03:09,250 --> 01:03:12,340
council committee the whole agendas are released by three on

950
01:03:12,340 --> 01:03:14,540
the Monday prior to accounts or committee of the whole

951
01:03:14,540 --> 01:03:17,190
meeting this will be our one week in advance of

952
01:03:17,190 --> 01:03:19,000
the meeting

953
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,580
following the recent release of the agenda as the public

954
01:03:21,580 --> 01:03:24,290
will have until noon on the Wednesday evening five days

955
01:03:24,290 --> 01:03:28,150
in advance just a minute Deputy shore Custer correspondence in

956
01:03:28,150 --> 01:03:30,850
response to any matter that's included on the agenda on

957
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,160
an agenda at the in the council or committee of

958
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,360
the whole

959
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,840
the revised council committees will agenda is released by the

960
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,700
end of the day Wednesday five days in advance of

961
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:45,250
the kit councillor committee of the whole meeting

962
01:03:45,250 --> 01:03:47,680
and on the following the next page I've done a

963
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,580
bit of a a summary just to show the current

964
01:03:50,890 --> 01:03:53,320
in the proposed deadlines

965
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,400
what you'll see is an example of the deadlines as

966
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,340
it relates to the January thirty first council and February

967
01:03:59,340 --> 01:04:02,740
first committee of the whole meeting so the first bulleted

968
01:04:02,740 --> 01:04:06,430
item ... the so anyone that wants to appear as

969
01:04:06,430 --> 01:04:11,170
a deputation earth provide comments or correspondence to council of

970
01:04:11,170 --> 01:04:14,290
the current deadline is Monday January twenty fourth at nine

971
01:04:14,290 --> 01:04:17,890
AM the proposed deadline would go to the Friday January

972
01:04:17,890 --> 01:04:20,360
twenty first at nine AM

973
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,820
the council committee the whole package is released the current

974
01:04:23,820 --> 01:04:28,620
deadline is Wednesday January twenty six the proposed deadline would

975
01:04:28,620 --> 01:04:32,000
be Monday January twenty fourth

976
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,860
once that packages released ... that often he also will

977
01:04:36,860 --> 01:04:40,710
be aware of the public will receive a package and

978
01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:43,260
they'll say ... I would like to submit deputation request

979
01:04:43,260 --> 01:04:46,000
or correspondence in response to an item that's included on

980
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,940
the agenda so that deadline will move from the Friday

981
01:04:49,940 --> 01:04:53,920
immediately before the meeting to the Wednesday being five days

982
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,730
in advance from the from the current three days in

983
01:04:56,730 --> 01:04:58,300
advance

984
01:04:58,300 --> 01:05:02,240
and then the revised agenda including all additional deputations and

985
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,240
correspondence currently the deadline if it's released by end of

986
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,570
day Friday now we'll go to Wednesday January twenty six

987
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,970
days that

988
01:05:13,970 --> 01:05:16,090
I believe rob since

989
01:05:16,090 --> 01:05:19,350
is that question

990
01:05:19,350 --> 01:05:21,800
yeah really just just your summary amount parking then we'll

991
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,440
go to council sense okay thank you ... and next

992
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,270
steps counts ... staff will review the public comments and

993
01:05:28,270 --> 01:05:31,570
council's comments and bring forward at a follow up report

994
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:36,680
for council consideration if it fits council's desire we will

995
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,370
pass that a by law to amend the procedural

996
01:05:40,370 --> 01:05:42,950
I can answer any questions

997
01:05:42,950 --> 01:05:45,130
thank you Madame clerk ... I believe that should be

998
01:05:45,130 --> 01:05:50,630
February first twenty twenty two cal football sorry thank you

999
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:52,290
no problem ... with that I will turn it over

1000
01:05:52,290 --> 01:05:55,040
to the counsel table and I can sense and because

1001
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:59,120
it's virtual end up near ... Bravo at

1002
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,450
yes thank

1003
01:06:00,450 --> 01:06:03,560
you're going up so what would be the fix them

1004
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,080
to the point that Terry raise I guess it would

1005
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,520
be going back to the Friday is that is that

1006
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:13,570
the fix it would fix the concerns done so and

1007
01:06:13,740 --> 01:06:16,660
thank you through you Mr chair so concern raised by

1008
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:21,390
Keller implement ratepayers association was this the span of time

1009
01:06:21,590 --> 01:06:25,600
between when the package goes out so currently the package

1010
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,700
goes out on the Wednesday and anyone wanting to submit

1011
01:06:28,700 --> 01:06:31,550
a correspondence or deputation in response to an item on

1012
01:06:31,550 --> 01:06:34,870
the agenda what would have until the Friday so that

1013
01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:39,580
would be from Wednesday at potentially three and tell Friday

1014
01:06:39,610 --> 01:06:42,900
at noon so what I'm proposing is is moving those

1015
01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:47,260
dates back two days old the package what Monday they

1016
01:06:47,260 --> 01:06:51,830
would have until Wednesday noon so ... Mr Keller is

1017
01:06:51,830 --> 01:06:56,750
asking if we could continue the deadline being a Friday

1018
01:06:56,750 --> 01:06:59,780
so they would have until from Monday when the package

1019
01:06:59,780 --> 01:07:03,780
is released so the Friday at noon to provide that

1020
01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:08,390
additional deputation there or correspondence to be added to ...

1021
01:07:08,610 --> 01:07:12,310
to the package the concern I have with that

1022
01:07:12,310 --> 01:07:14,090
is that

1023
01:07:14,090 --> 01:07:17,730
when we receive the follow up visit deputies request a

1024
01:07:17,730 --> 01:07:21,890
follow up correspondence what happens is we receive that the

1025
01:07:21,890 --> 01:07:25,890
package goes out Friday afternoon it includes it could include

1026
01:07:25,890 --> 01:07:29,010
a number of deputations could include a number of number

1027
01:07:29,010 --> 01:07:32,560
of additional correspondences then

1028
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,910
eight trigger sometimes others wishing to provide additional comments and

1029
01:07:36,910 --> 01:07:40,320
when we meet on Monday morning at nine AM I

1030
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,560
monitor my my emails all weekend so that council has

1031
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,860
the most up to date information and comments in response

1032
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,950
so I do as council's aware I'm I'm often replying

1033
01:07:51,020 --> 01:07:54,540
over the weekend to provide council with that information because

1034
01:07:54,540 --> 01:07:57,760
there's no time on Monday morning before council meetings are

1035
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,930
meeting start at nine AM so that was something that

1036
01:08:01,170 --> 01:08:04,250
that ... Terry Keller had asked that that deadline continue

1037
01:08:04,250 --> 01:08:06,880
on the frock to the Friday

1038
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,600
I'm just so

1039
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,280
10

1040
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,960
just relation that the time frame we are was what

1041
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,810
date is it still the same amount of time it's

1042
01:08:16,810 --> 01:08:20,830
right for the public correct that's right okay ... follow

1043
01:08:20,830 --> 01:08:23,880
up robin and ... accounts here

1044
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:28,020
it ... yes ... just wanting whether you did the

1045
01:08:28,020 --> 01:08:33,080
old Canadian thing coming had yet made it Thursday

1046
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,370
yeah thank you very much the difference in the game

1047
01:08:36,370 --> 01:08:39,590
make everybody happy noted that not but I'll getting inside

1048
01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:43,780
it gives a little bit more time for the point

1049
01:08:43,780 --> 01:08:46,170
that Mr Callum was raising which is you know I

1050
01:08:46,170 --> 01:08:50,710
think people need the chance to do their research

1051
01:08:50,710 --> 01:08:54,520
and yet gives you a bit of time to recover

1052
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,210
from that ... because there's some things to deal with

1053
01:08:57,210 --> 01:09:01,470
on Friday on the business day not quite ...

1054
01:09:01,470 --> 01:09:04,270
you know complete but I'm just gonna whether we might

1055
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,310
do a lot of the we've it to see if

1056
01:09:06,310 --> 01:09:09,310
you could make that work if I can certainly include

1057
01:09:09,310 --> 01:09:11,660
that in the fall of staff report most definitely thank

1058
01:09:11,660 --> 01:09:14,700
you thanks Anderson thank you thanks Robert see I was

1059
01:09:14,700 --> 01:09:17,170
going to suggest something you know ... if we allow

1060
01:09:17,170 --> 01:09:19,360
the public little part time but you know so the

1061
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:24,680
nature not getting enough the emails from Karina well

1062
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,760
that's okay work part of the part of the job

1063
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,340
with that'll go to council your

1064
01:09:30,340 --> 01:09:33,110
all those two things to keep in mind when we

1065
01:09:33,110 --> 01:09:37,700
look talking about to access extending that particular time or

1066
01:09:37,930 --> 01:09:42,420
giving it a little bit of flexibility ...

1067
01:09:42,420 --> 01:09:45,110
one is most of the most important things that we

1068
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:48,210
do with me with the council have already been in

1069
01:09:48,210 --> 01:09:50,590
front of the public for quite some time by the

1070
01:09:50,590 --> 01:09:53,470
time they get to this stage

1071
01:09:53,470 --> 01:09:56,390
so at that point I think

1072
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:59,310
particulate blue not rate payers may have had a head

1073
01:09:59,310 --> 01:10:03,000
start on some of these things yes to boot the

1074
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,860
other party is there's always the day of the council

1075
01:10:07,860 --> 01:10:12,860
meeting itself where they're allowed to add items to whatever

1076
01:10:12,860 --> 01:10:16,980
their presentation would have normally being sold I'm not so

1077
01:10:16,980 --> 01:10:18,670
sure that ...

1078
01:10:18,670 --> 01:10:22,960
one it's as important

1079
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,190
to give them that much flexibility and I'm not saying

1080
01:10:26,190 --> 01:10:28,790
not to I'm just saying that I'm not sure it's

1081
01:10:28,890 --> 01:10:32,280
all that important because most of the really good stuff

1082
01:10:32,970 --> 01:10:35,970
they we give them a lot more time

1083
01:10:35,970 --> 01:10:39,410
to take a look at it then what does this

1084
01:10:39,550 --> 01:10:45,880
kind of exercise really shelves

1085
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,880
thank you Jim your comments ... without over a concert

1086
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,290
hall the next in the queue ... counselor at yes

1087
01:10:52,290 --> 01:10:55,510
thank you other P. Mayor I think that ... the

1088
01:10:55,860 --> 01:10:57,780
ex so first of all I think would be ...

1089
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,650
suggestion of Thursday councillor Sampson suggestions sort of going down

1090
01:11:01,650 --> 01:11:03,620
the middle it's a very good one because I do

1091
01:11:03,620 --> 01:11:07,500
think the public is looking for more time so with

1092
01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:10,890
forty five hours before forty five hours now we extend

1093
01:11:10,890 --> 01:11:13,050
that on the proposal of weeks on that I think

1094
01:11:13,050 --> 01:11:16,060
that that would be meaningful the public because ... there

1095
01:11:16,060 --> 01:11:19,530
is a strategic time frame as well to make sure

1096
01:11:19,530 --> 01:11:21,790
that your input is placed and and I do I

1097
01:11:21,790 --> 01:11:26,040
do think it's important ... as part of the process

1098
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,280
that we that council here's what it needs to here's

1099
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,950
as soon as it can yeah ... so I think

1100
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:36,120
that that's the first thing second ... item for me

1101
01:11:36,150 --> 01:11:39,200
... Mr chair is for you to the clerk I

1102
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:43,770
believe that the community ... a communications advisory committee if

1103
01:11:43,770 --> 01:11:46,800
you can bring forward their motion I believe that it

1104
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,890
does and that comes from citizens ... I am a

1105
01:11:49,890 --> 01:11:52,460
member of that group and and so is our at

1106
01:11:52,460 --> 01:11:56,000
the lake to Deputy Mayor our OP hotter ... so

1107
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,040
when that motion came forward ... I do believe that

1108
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,090
that's exactly the request as well would you want to

1109
01:12:01,090 --> 01:12:04,080
just to ... confirm that ... madam chair I don't

1110
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:08,000
have the motion in front of me

1111
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,740
through you Mr chair I can read that again yes

1112
01:12:11,300 --> 01:12:15,090
I read it verbatim where where is the committee supports

1113
01:12:15,090 --> 01:12:19,480
the earlier release object of agenda and agenda items

1114
01:12:19,480 --> 01:12:22,170
and where is the public has been following the existing

1115
01:12:22,170 --> 01:12:25,910
agenda released process for the last ten years

1116
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:31,350
that the community communications advisory committee recommends that the deadline

1117
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:35,870
to provide deputations any correspondence for the public remain the

1118
01:12:35,870 --> 01:12:41,560
same being Monday at nine AM

1119
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:49,650
oh okay all right so

1120
01:12:49,650 --> 01:12:52,280
right so so the committee is looking for yes okay

1121
01:12:52,310 --> 01:12:55,040
no I just wanted to confirm what the understanding was

1122
01:12:55,070 --> 01:12:59,050
... and as I said I do think that ...

1123
01:12:59,170 --> 01:13:01,740
that that extra time is very meaningful to the public

1124
01:13:01,740 --> 01:13:04,000
so and we are making a change when something is

1125
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,550
ten years ... establish we want to make sure that

1126
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,050
we give people time in and out to make a

1127
01:13:11,050 --> 01:13:15,750
change and to be able to have more time to

1128
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:19,490
prepare their case so ... so great to hear all

1129
01:13:19,490 --> 01:13:22,600
of the input and ... thank you Mr chair

1130
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,940
I think answer hope

1131
01:13:24,940 --> 01:13:27,150
any other questions any other questions or comments from the

1132
01:13:27,150 --> 01:13:29,450
floor

1133
01:13:29,450 --> 01:13:32,070
no I'm I'm I'm

1134
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:34,630
I think the suggestions are are great and maybe Thursday's

1135
01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:36,650
a great compromise that gives the public a little more

1136
01:13:36,650 --> 01:13:38,270
time but also because the clerk time to do her

1137
01:13:38,270 --> 01:13:41,030
job and then that it information and our ends as

1138
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:44,240
well ... so ... we'll leave that to Madame clerk

1139
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,850
because she will be bringing forth a staff report to

1140
01:13:46,850 --> 01:13:49,610
... cal first this only public meeting we have to

1141
01:13:49,610 --> 01:13:51,230
go to cal and we still to go to council

1142
01:13:51,570 --> 01:13:53,760
so the time for further discussion once we do that

1143
01:13:54,020 --> 01:13:57,350
unplug settle public comments received during in relation to be

1144
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:58,590
for

1145
01:13:58,590 --> 01:14:01,970
that said Mr chairman thank you for the comments she

1146
01:14:01,970 --> 01:14:03,900
thank you with that we can close off our last

1147
01:14:03,900 --> 01:14:06,350
public comment ... we move right into notice of meeting

1148
01:14:06,350 --> 01:14:10,310
dates ... we have a council meeting January thirty first

1149
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:14,650
twenty twenty two town hall council chambers and virtual ...

1150
01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:17,100
that we have a Cao meeting on February first twenty

1151
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:22,820
twenty two same ... virtual and online and council public

1152
01:14:22,820 --> 01:14:26,220
meeting will be February seventh ... which will be virtual

1153
01:14:26,220 --> 01:14:30,320
as well ... without that concludes our our for our

1154
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,820
four sections or public comments today thank you public for

1155
01:14:32,820 --> 01:14:35,700
making all their comments and staff and counsel for the

1156
01:14:35,700 --> 01:14:39,600
questions comments recommendations with that I will look for more

1157
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,610
that this council does not return at two eight PM

1158
01:14:43,610 --> 01:14:46,620
to meet again February seventh twenty twenty two town hall

1159
01:14:46,620 --> 01:14:48,940
council chambers or at the call of the chair cover

1160
01:14:48,940 --> 01:14:52,900
mover to second place

1161
01:14:52,900 --> 01:14:56,220
I will move Andrea councillor match such move that seconded

1162
01:14:56,220 --> 01:15:00,130
by councillor local second councillor hope thank you moved across

1163
01:15:00,130 --> 01:15:02,350
much of technical circle might clear to you for the

1164
01:15:02,350 --> 01:15:08,070
vote

1165
01:15:08,070 --> 01:15:11,850
thank you Mr chair the borders open

1166
01:15:11,850 --> 01:15:16,100
that was closed

1167
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:18,700
that motion's carried five nothing thank everybody for your time

1168
01:15:18,700 --> 01:15:21,440
today into the public and stuff very much appreciate it

1169
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,570
a good rest of the day

1170
01:15:24,570 --> 01:15:27,790
thank you Mr Deputy Mayor