[2:03] it's
[2:04] our
[6:12] Harry Bergman
[6:15] is now joining
[6:18] ... Mr Deputy Mayor we are live streaming and recording
[6:23] the Mayor is currently at a Roman delegation but will
[6:26] be joining the meeting a little bit later grasses councillor
[6:30] Sampson
[6:31] thank you Madame clerk with that this is the specialty
[6:34] of council of public meeting for January twenty fourth it's
[6:38] one PM so this is the call to order with
[6:41] that I will turn it back to the clerk for
[6:42] the traditional territory acknowledgement on work
[6:48] we would like to begin our meeting by recognizing the
[6:50] First Nations matey and in what peoples of Canada there's
[6:54] traditional stewards of the land the municipality is located within
[6:57] the boundary of treaty eighteen region of eighteen eighteen which
[7:01] is the traditional land of the honest and I'll be
[7:04] honest only and when that wind up people's
[7:09] thank you Madame clerk will not take a moment of
[7:11] reflection
[7:24] thank you with that ... and quickly take the council
[7:27] member tenets place
[7:30] certainly Mr Deputy Mayor each member could please respond present
[7:33] when their name is called councillor hope
[7:37] councillor mattress tops
[7:46] councillor mattress tops
[7:57] I see that she's join the meeting maybe having technical
[8:02] issues yes we do need councillor Metso's for corneal we
[8:06] ...
[8:08] all I want I'll go down the list and come
[8:11] back thank you okay councillor Sampson as I mentioned is
[8:15] that a delegation will be joining a bit later
[8:18] as as mayor so whatever else you're your own
[8:22] I'm present thank you
[8:25] councillor mattress sauce
[8:31] you muted Andrea
[8:39] councillor mattress tops
[8:41] can you hear can you hear us
[8:49] councillor mattress tops
[8:56] councillor matter stops
[8:59] your muted
[9:04] I'll use I'm just said I'm speakers not working
[9:07] okay so let me just a moment here you see
[9:10] I can
[9:11] so perhaps
[9:14] in the bottom right corner Andrea if you're able to
[9:17] go down
[9:20] to the sound fair and and turn the sound on
[9:31] okay M. councillor matched up is going to restart the
[9:33] computer so just wait a moment Mr Deputy Mayor
[9:37] thank you create I will just ... woods because for
[9:39] a moment before we continue okay great thank you and
[9:43] I will watch for her to to me trying
[9:59] Mr book when I see the join the meeting now
[10:02] three to the comments by telephone
[10:04] and on the computer
[10:07] right now here on the computer
[10:11] okay so you can hang up the telephone
[10:14] can you hear me the okay
[10:18] can you hear me through the computer Lancaster
[10:22] is now exiting
[10:27] Berkman
[10:28] can you hear me through the computer
[10:35] Mr workmen
[10:37] can you hear me through the computer now
[10:48] your mics open Mr Bergman I've just tested just saying
[10:51] hello
[11:00] you had joined the meeting
[11:02] three times I just removed the one connection Mr Deputy
[11:06] Mayor thank you Mr Brookman
[11:11] can you hear me Mr recommends it's not your hand
[11:13] if you can hear me
[11:19] I'm going to send an email thank you
[11:22] and we're just waiting for council match subsystem for the
[11:25] public from where to catch myself restarted technical issues ...
[11:32] we do have a tendency councillors hope your arm and
[11:34] myself and we're just waiting on that councillor not a
[11:37] substitute for
[12:13] councillor matter subs can you hear us now
[12:18] yes thank you now I can hear you okay that's
[12:21] great thanks so much Andrea okay Mr Deputy Mayor I
[12:24] will do another role to ensure of ... just another
[12:27] world right from the start thank you councillor whole present
[12:32] councillor mattress tops present
[12:35] councillor Sampson the Mayor so wherever are absent they will
[12:38] join the meeting a little bit later councillor your own
[12:41] present and and Deputy Mayor boarding L.
[12:45] present thank you in this my apologies for the delay
[12:49] and ... we're ready to start
[12:52] thank you ... we now will want to the approval
[12:54] of the agenda it's recommended the agenda of January twenty
[12:57] fourth twenty twenty to be approved as circulated including any
[13:01] items and added to this agenda ... can I remove
[13:05] and second for that motion to get on the floor
[13:06] placed
[13:09] some of them thank you zero thank you moved by
[13:13] councillor your M. second recount circle ... medlar keep make
[13:16] all that will
[13:20] could you please vote for affirmative for me man clerk
[13:23] will they re open he scrapped thank you I will
[13:26] thank you
[13:31] that was closed
[13:34] motions cared for nothing with all attendance favorite boarding affirmative
[13:37] thank you counsel with that we moved to a for
[13:41] declaration of pecuniary interest and generate for their up
[13:44] no in accordance with misspoke conflict of interest act and
[13:47] the temperature bylaw twenty one dash seventy six sorry twenty
[13:50] twenty one dash seventy six council members must pirate statement
[13:53] of the interest and its general nature with the clerk
[13:56] for inclusion on the registry are there any declarations for
[13:58] this agenda today
[14:01] seeing none of any do arise from the conversation please
[14:04] alert the clerk with that is one away PM we're
[14:08] gonna move into the public meetings
[14:11] under the authority of the missile Oct twenty twenty one
[14:14] in accordance with materials municipal freedom of information and protection
[14:17] of privacy act the corporation the town of blue mounds
[14:20] wishes to inform the public that all information including opinions
[14:24] presentations reports and documentation provided for about a public meeting
[14:29] for public consultation or the public process are considered part
[14:32] of the public record this information may be posted to
[14:35] the town's website and or made available to the public
[14:38] on its request note not pertinent shall be granted for
[14:42] members of the public to provide verbal comments in response
[14:45] to the subject nature of the public meeting is commentator
[14:48] must be limited and speaking to no more than ten
[14:50] minutes at the public meeting a specialist time shall be
[14:54] permitted at the direction of the chair comments will address
[14:57] only those matters that are directly related to the matters
[14:59] for which the public meetings are being held
[15:03] note written submissions received written submissions received by the clerk
[15:06] prior to one PM noon the Friday before the schedule
[15:09] public meeting will be circulated and included in the record
[15:13] of the out of the public meeting all written submissions
[15:16] received in response to a public meeting notice
[15:19] whether received before or after public meeting will be circulated
[15:22] to council for their information in accordance with the town
[15:26] it in accordance with the public meeting comments policy PLLC
[15:30] Ward fifteen dash Europe you will be considered prior to
[15:33] decisions on this matter to which the public meeting is
[15:36] being held
[15:38] we have for today
[15:40] B. one this is a public meeting regarding a site
[15:43] specific zoning bylaw amendment for the property located at one
[15:47] oh seven Hoover late
[15:49] the application process the applicant the application proposes to rezone
[15:54] the subject lands from the open space ... S. own
[15:57] into the residential zone R. one one to prevent single
[16:01] detached residential uses
[16:04] the public meeting is an opportunity for members of the
[16:06] public to learn more about the proposed development the moderate
[16:10] the moderator will keep the meeting in order and allow
[16:12] the applicant the public and members of council to speak
[16:15] and ask questions
[16:16] remember no decisions are being made at this meeting is
[16:19] simply an opportunity to learn and provide feedback please be
[16:22] advised that you must
[16:24] make in writing request if you wish to receive a
[16:26] notice of the decision of council on this proposal
[16:30] person or public body would otherwise have an ability to
[16:34] appeal the decision of council in the blue mountains to
[16:37] the Ontario land tribunal
[16:40] but the person public body does not make oral submissions
[16:42] the public meetings or make written submissions to council before
[16:45] the bylaw is passed the person public body is not
[16:47] entitled to appeal this decision
[16:49] they also may not be added as a party to
[16:52] the hearing of an appeal before the tribunal and less
[16:55] in the opinion of the tribunal there are reasonable grounds
[16:58] to do so
[17:00] so with that Madame clerk I. S. return to you
[17:03] for public comments received ... into your office
[17:08] thank you Mr Deputy Mayor I confirm that notice of
[17:11] this public meeting was given in accordance with the planning
[17:13] act and in response comments have been received
[17:17] council has received the comments in their entirety and what
[17:19] I'm reading right now is just a summary of those
[17:22] thing comments from the county of great given that the
[17:25] uses existing and all new development or change of use
[17:28] is proposed county staff have no significant concerns with the
[17:32] subject application it is recommended that further comments be received
[17:36] from the conservation authority regarding the proximity to to Georgian
[17:39] bay from Kerry Eagleson I am writing to you to
[17:43] support the rezoning application I do have several questions that
[17:46] I would like answered how did the zoning get changed
[17:50] in two thousand eighteen why is it taking so long
[17:52] to correct this problem this is clearly an error and
[17:55] should be corrected immediately the machine of the zoning amendment
[17:59] in the first place from don rate over the years
[18:03] construction of new built around our property and the associated
[18:06] grading changes that was recommend
[18:09] the surrounding lots have significantly raise the ground level and
[18:12] has resulted in an increase in stormwater runoff through our
[18:15] property increased lot ... run walk run up is now
[18:20] joining
[18:22] in an increasing groundwater level the current zoning of the
[18:25] applicant's property being open space does indicate some thoughtful planning
[18:29] for stormwater control my rezoning back to residential the township
[18:34] will in effect removal planning opportunity for stormwater controls in
[18:38] this area and continue to ignore the effects on our
[18:40] property we respectfully request that the township insurers that in
[18:45] rezoning this land the effects of storm water and increased
[18:48] groundwater on our property ... adequate adequately mitigated and that
[18:52] there will be no negative impact where property due to
[18:55] this application and that's it ... Mr chair
[19:00] thank you ... with that I will take it to
[19:03] ... staff to start and then and into council
[19:12] our presentations are planning service development one of seven who
[19:16] were lane ... who's gonna walk us through this
[19:21] ... ... ... I'm going to walk through ... Walker
[19:25] this presentation ... throughout the
[19:28] you wanna call it dawned on me my name's Alexander
[19:30] Graham planner to for the for the town
[19:34] ... so as with that the ball is that this
[19:36] is a public meeting for site specific zoning bylaw amendment
[19:40] for one oh seven moved away
[19:43] our next slide please clean up
[19:46] ... this is that in general information that the application
[19:49] ... the property is owned by Gordon felt heavy and
[19:52] then she did consent ... the town of the blue
[19:55] mountains is actually the applicant missed eight on the order
[19:58] detail will be ... provided on that aspect a little
[20:01] later on the presentation
[20:04] the property is located walk Devin Booker lane which is
[20:06] in the general secretary of AMPA down area ... and
[20:11] the property in question is about twelve hundred square meters
[20:13] in size
[20:15] and next slide please
[20:18] I'm in terms of the application to protest ... there's
[20:22] a few major milestones ... at this point we are
[20:24] at the public meeting stage ... and before there's a
[20:28] decision made by council and there's any bylaw considered by
[20:31] council ... following today's staff are going to complete a
[20:34] more detailed review of the application including the comments received
[20:38] ... as well as throughout the planning documents
[20:43] I think I just
[20:46] they have lost the presentation that
[20:50] critically ill go back to the tournament yeah something's up
[20:53] here there we go thank you thank you
[20:56] 
[20:59] staff more than ... prepare reports council ... at this
[21:03] at this point that specific date is undetermined ... but
[21:06] just to highlight there's no decision being made today today
[21:09] is ... the intent of today's is that the pain
[21:12] comments from the public and and council at this application
[21:18] next slide please
[21:21] aerial photo of the subject lands um provide a little
[21:24] bit of contacts of where where the property is that
[21:27] you can tell ... the areas yeah I know the
[21:31] ... generally consider that low density residential uses characterized a
[21:36] single detached dwelling units there has been some ...
[21:41] some redevelopment of this area where number these properties have
[21:45] have undergone a new constructed ... with single detached dwelling
[21:50] units
[21:52] next slide please
[21:56] by the subject property is located within the residential recreational
[22:00] area designation of the town's official plan ... B. R.
[22:03] A. designation is a settlement area ... is generally comports
[22:08] residential uses ... thought of their to you just for
[22:12] a recreational amenity in the area
[22:16] next slide please
[22:20] um so the current zoning on the subject property as
[22:23] open space or the ... Aspell ... and not zone
[22:27] category I'm no buildings or structures that permitted and no
[22:31] residential uses are permitted hence the work pants are the
[22:35] purpose for the zoning in on that
[22:38] our next slide which will provide more detail on that
[22:42] aspect
[22:44] so formally this part of this property was zoned R.
[22:49] street with a small portrait of open space along need
[22:52] this provides both David garden bay there is an amending
[22:55] bylaw is in that and nineteen ninety two ... which
[23:00] rezoned
[23:02] property in order to increase the size are result of
[23:05] the land ... and I was under the former colony
[23:08] bylaw bylaw eighty three forty of the township of calling
[23:12] with ... and not ours rezone permitted a single detached
[23:16] residential dwelling unit ... and it was under those zoning
[23:20] provisions that the existing structure was built ... and and
[23:25] and that at that time did conform with those that
[23:28] those previous felony provisions
[23:31] 
[23:33] at the end of the passing of the new comprehensive
[23:35] zoning bylaw and twenty eighteen ... being brought down about
[23:39] twenty eighteen fifty five on this property was rezoned into
[23:43] the open space ... completely into the open space owned
[23:47] allegory ... and at that point the single detached dwelling
[23:51] unit on the lands ... became a legal non conforming
[23:54] use
[23:56] ... at the at this time ... it's proposed that
[24:00] the entirety of the land be rezoned back to the
[24:04] R. one dash one zone in order to recognize the
[24:07] existing dwelling unit and use of the land ... and
[24:11] which is constructed with all the neighboring properties have basically
[24:15] just to put it back into that that residential zone
[24:17] category and I should note that no new developments is
[24:21] proposed that the part of this application it simply to
[24:25] put it back into the original phone category under bylaw
[24:28] eighty three forty ... in doing so would that take
[24:31] away that legal nonconforming use that it would just become
[24:34] a legal conforming yes
[24:39] and that's the ... the summary of a staff presentation
[24:43] hopefully that provides ... some appropriate context so it's it's
[24:47] from the fact that
[24:49] thanks Travis ... with that I will open up to
[24:52] my council colleagues for questions or comments ... doesn't have
[24:56] any questions or comments for Travis at this time
[25:02] that way of thinking ... they're out Travis I'm just
[25:05] gonna ask one so I hate use what housekeeping issue
[25:08] because this is only as the anything but housekeeping but
[25:10] is this
[25:12] is this really more administration than it is change
[25:18] our
[25:19] ... ... I I would jobs the fact that it
[25:22] is exactly that it's more of an administrative ... attraction
[25:26] of that of that building map ... rather than than
[25:30] any actual physical change on the property
[25:33] thank you ... with that there's ... make colleagues have
[25:38] any other questions for Travis
[25:42] and Madame clerk you have ... you have gone through
[25:44] all the ... public comments correct
[25:48] that's correct Mister chair and I confirm that and no
[25:50] one has registered to speak at today's public meeting
[25:55] thank you ... with that I believe we can close
[25:58] off B. one Madame clerk
[26:01] that's correct Mister chair thank you thank you with that
[26:04] we ... we have three more on the agenda today
[26:06] ... B. two which is a public meeting revisions to
[26:11] the sale or other deposit deposition of land policy that's
[26:15] P. O. L. C. or zero seven zero two
[26:19] what is being proposed staff are recommending repealing replacing the
[26:22] current sailing deposition of land policy P. O. L. C.
[26:26] O. R. zero seven zero two two include revisions that
[26:29] will make the process clearer and more efficient the revised
[26:33] draft policy and supporting process supports council's direction not to
[26:37] consider any request to sell town owned waterfront property staff
[26:41] are suggesting there were land as been identified as road
[26:44] allowance street lane way fairly or is of the sizes
[26:50] deemed not to be building lot actually registered on title
[26:54] and there shall be no future requests for building permits
[26:56] or vacancies considered for subject lands because it because of
[27:00] it being acquired from the town to protect the overall
[27:04] feel and character of the local area the current policy
[27:07] allows for exclusions for land formerly used for railway lines
[27:12] staff suggested that this reference to be removed and the
[27:14] land that was formerly a railway line in most cases
[27:18] is currently with alignment of the Georgian trail
[27:21] for the exception of the sections of the trail that
[27:23] have an existing realignment staff recommend that no sale of
[27:27] these lands that be part of the former railway line
[27:30] shall be considered for potential disposition or surpluses for the
[27:33] foreseeable future town staff recommend a process where twice a
[27:38] year consideration may be brought forward to consider land surplus
[27:42] with the purpose
[27:44] being to dispose of land from the town's current land
[27:47] inventory
[27:54] we cannot start by about employers as a without interacting
[27:58] with the clerk
[28:00] thank you ... I just wanted to make mention that
[28:03] notice of this public meeting has been given in accordance
[28:06] with our notice policy in response comments have been received
[28:10] I confirm that all the comments received were circulated to
[28:13] council in their entirety and what it I'm reading right
[28:15] now is just a summary of those seen comments
[28:19] I'm Paul Graham and Sally leopard we are in support
[28:22] of the provision to prohibit the sale of publicly owned
[28:25] let owned waterfront lands being road allowances etcetera the town
[28:29] has a scarcity of publicly accessible waterfront lands considering the
[28:33] extent of our shore line thus protecting the what the
[28:36] lands we have is vital the town is encouraged not
[28:40] only to protect the lands we all but to develop
[28:42] a water front acquisition policy in order to take advantage
[28:45] of extending public access to the waterfront when opportunities arise
[28:50] thank you for the opportunity to provide our comments from
[28:53] John roar with respect to the public meeting to be
[28:56] held on January twenty fourth at one PM I have
[28:59] two questions with two parts as they relate to adjoining
[29:02] owners that have joined town owned lands described as a
[29:06] stopped up non traveled road allowance that may be deemed
[29:10] surplus these may have been stopped up and close but
[29:13] it joined both residential and employment lands currently my driveway
[29:18] and garage is at the end of a stocked up
[29:21] non traveled road allowance stopped up stopped up post op
[29:26] motion is also stopped off close our motion to in
[29:31] two in a row allowance on the other side the
[29:34] services access to employment lands the full length of my
[29:37] property adjoins a non traveled road allowance my driveway has
[29:41] utilized this non travel road allowance since the nineteen fifties
[29:45] as a provides access to my garage which is at
[29:48] the end of the non travel grow allowance question number
[29:52] one eight with the surplus lands be considered a joining
[29:57] to commercial lands where the residential I'm traveled road loan
[30:00] stoppage is located where employment or I see I land
[30:03] begins and B. what guidelines are are being discussed that
[30:08] prevented commercial purchaser from acquiring surplus lands in a residential
[30:13] zone and
[30:14] using them as an access road to the employment lands
[30:17] question number two
[30:19] eight I have been steward of the land since I
[30:22] moved to the area in two thousand fifteen what liabilities
[30:26] what I face if the appraised value of this land
[30:28] is deemed unaffordable and another purchases that being if another
[30:33] purchases this property when I lose my access to my
[30:36] driveway and garage thank you for taking the time to
[30:38] respond to my questions from Allison mackenzie as an adjoining
[30:43] landowner to a possible disposition of a road allowance I'm
[30:47] wondering about the possibility of a first right of refusal
[30:49] to purchase this land I would also like to ask
[30:52] whether the flow chart included in this file is representative
[30:56] of how things are going to proceed in the future
[30:58] alright this is the past flowchart and Mister chair ...
[31:01] Heery Burkman also provided comments Mr Bergman is on the
[31:05] line so I will leave it to Mr Bergman to
[31:08] provide those comments you may be having some technical ...
[31:11] difficulties with the sound that we'll see if you can
[31:13] provide those comments or questions thank you Karina Mr Bergman
[31:17] can you hear us
[31:20] you can you hear me now go to your telephone
[31:23] it's just big through the phone there you go
[31:27] no that's that's worse
[31:30] maybe in your microphone on the computer Mr Bergman
[31:40] while he's doing that Mister chair ... if you wanted
[31:44] to go to the town presentation Shawn Everett CA ...
[31:47] he has a presentation
[31:49] to provide where we owe to the public actually all
[31:51] right ... thank you so with that ... Mr Brookman
[31:55] well your figure that out where to go to R.
[31:58] C. A. O. Sean Everitt Sean Doherty
[32:03] thank you at Deputy Mayor aboard you know
[32:08] if you can go to the next slide yeah
[32:11] so just a bit of an overview of how we
[32:14] got here ... we broader brought forward a ... ...
[32:18] report in November first of twenty twenty one I would
[32:21] line ... the ability for us to move for with
[32:24] this public meeting ... which shall over the Christmas break
[32:28] identified the January the twenty fourth is being ... today
[32:32] being that the date for the public meeting next light
[32:37] as you can see the
[32:42] public notice in the approval process ... we've all the
[32:44] required public notice ... ... process ... with some additional
[32:50] time being provide it and ... looking towards ... report
[32:55] coming back to council ... with follow up to this
[32:59] public meeting ... that would be at anticipating February the
[33:02] fifteenth and if all goes well and we're able to
[33:06] provide the information for council we would see the ...
[33:10] of the March twenty eighth ... council are considering the
[33:12] recommendations from the March fifteenth committee of the whole next
[33:16] slide
[33:19] the key things that ... we want to identify through
[33:22] this ... public meeting is first that we already have
[33:25] an existing land disposition of Policy but thought it would
[33:29] be appropriate time to have of some ... ... revisions
[33:34] review completed ... we're seeing over the last number of
[33:38] years a definite intake ... opted to the number of
[33:41] requests for ... potential disposition of lands from a residence
[33:46] ... council had made it very clear ... decision and
[33:50] recommendation ... for us not to for staff not to
[33:54] consider town water front properties as being surplus this ...
[34:00] ... staff is moving forward with that same understanding that
[34:04] ... water front access that would not be considered for
[34:07] ... disposition of lands I think one of the key
[34:10] areas and and some of the comments received thus far
[34:13] to the public in regards to the road allowance in
[34:16] the streets and laneways and fire lanes ... there is
[34:19] a lot of work and I think some additional explanation
[34:21] that we're happy to provide through the follow up to
[34:24] the public meeting these are actually the areas that you
[34:27] know we're very interested in and having further discussions with
[34:30] council just to consider ... on our on a regular
[34:34] and very consistent basis how we deal with these ...
[34:38] ... these types of properties where they may be a
[34:40] stopped up in close around on open road allowance or
[34:43] fire lane ... we feel that the municipality is in
[34:46] a position where we would like to get the clarity
[34:48] and consistency of how we deal with these on a
[34:51] regular basis ... and one of the key things in
[34:55] this goes back a number of years ago the protection
[34:57] of the Jordan trail is as critical and one of
[35:00] one of the things that we believe that should be
[35:02] in the disposition of land policy very clearly is that
[35:05] no areas within the Georgian trail will be considered a
[35:09] surplus in the future ... just for the clarity in
[35:12] and again the consistency for individuals who may wish to
[35:16] ... make that request
[35:18] it would be ... very ... very handy for staff
[35:21] to be able to just clearly state that the lands
[35:24] that ... affect the Jordan trail would not be considered
[35:28] ... the other key thing which is that we thought
[35:31] it was was a good idea was to be able
[35:34] to bring the council twice per year there the request
[35:37] for this positions of land so ... that way we
[35:41] could be doing in a very consistent and transparent ...
[35:44] method where ... council would be considering any disposition of
[35:49] land are as a group as opposed to one office
[35:52] the other one of us are very you know
[35:56] they're fine but for council to be able to take
[35:59] a look on a regular basis of any request in
[36:02] a very ... consistent manner I think would be very
[36:05] beneficial ... just when you start consideration are considering where
[36:09] potential lands could be declared surplus
[36:14] the next slide thank you grant ... the appraisals for
[36:17] specific types of land and we're very very clear that
[36:20] not these would not be for building a redevelopment properties
[36:24] we believe that there is the ... a benefit to
[36:28] getting appraisals done for our ... certain types of lands
[36:32] whether or not there be per per meter per square
[36:36] meter per ... that could be wrong allowances or we
[36:39] could just simply say this is this these these appraisals
[36:43] would actually create the minimum bets um so we were
[36:46] to go out and say you know this road allowance
[36:49] I don't run allowance that's been stopped up in close
[36:52] that it meets all the requirements as we went through
[36:55] a public process public consultation process we could just simply
[36:59] say based on the appraised value this is the minimum
[37:02] bid ... ... we have seen in the past where
[37:06] you know trying to do the appraisals as we go
[37:10] ...
[37:12] it it it becomes very very ... time ... time
[37:17] management sort of gets thrown out the window because it
[37:19] is it is sometimes very hard from a timeliness to
[37:23] get appraisals done so this would just allow us to
[37:25] move the process through from appraisal process the one key
[37:29] thing that I do want to make very clear through
[37:30] this disposition of land policy is that this is only
[37:34] the process for council to be brought forward a recommendation
[37:39] to consider lands surplus this does not replace the public
[37:45] consultation process so that's still process staff could come forward
[37:49] to council and suggest three or four different piece of
[37:53] the property is being concise being able to be considered
[37:57] for this position
[37:59] if council so where's the would still require ... staff
[38:03] would still require council approval to initiate the actual public
[38:06] consultation process so I know that there is a there
[38:10] is a fear that this would ... maybe replace that
[38:13] does not replace it all this just to simply allows
[38:16] us to get the subject matter in front of council
[38:19] if council wished to for most for staff to initiate
[38:22] the public process to then consider lands surplus dot public
[38:27] process would still take place and council with that and
[38:31] with the benefit of hearing from the public and local
[38:33] residents of whether or not they believe it's a good
[38:36] idea to sell land that process is still in place
[38:41] the next slide
[38:44] so next steps is ... we we plan on on
[38:47] receiving ... reviewing the public comments that have been received
[38:51] ... and then provide a follow up report we've identified
[38:55] February the fifteenth ... to bring up a follow up
[38:58] report back to committee the hall ... and some of
[39:02] the ... the comments that we've received to date R.
[39:05] one R. wanna thank the public for providing those ...
[39:08] they acted they have provided some good additional insight for
[39:11] staff to be able to go back and ... and
[39:15] review ... those comments and also provide the clarity that
[39:18] ... the cap and that the public can council's looking
[39:21] for thank you for that
[39:25] thank you shot
[39:27] ... with that before I go to the council and
[39:30] see if Mr Bergman is ...
[39:35] it is available for his comment
[39:38] can you run with you your
[39:42] Mr back when are you able to hear style yes
[39:46] on the tele yes we can are you through the
[39:49] telephone that's great okay with apologies sorry ... I bought
[39:53] a new computer a week ago and I'm having trouble
[39:56] connecting to teams ... might sound ... I can see
[40:01] that ... I'm there ... video Weiss ...
[40:05] I have no substantial ... issues with that what is
[40:10] proposed ... what I do note and I've sent a
[40:14] letter is that the official policy only does half of
[40:21] what the province intense and the province by the Municipal
[40:26] actors established that the municipality shall have an official policy
[40:32] that deals with sales and other dispositions of land
[40:38] and if one looks through the existing policy
[40:42] dating back to two thousand and eight it only deals
[40:46] with sales it doesn't deal with other dispositions of land
[40:51] although which entitles sale and other dispositions of land ...
[40:57] I provided a ... a copy of the existing policy
[41:03] and ... I'm uncertain effect can be showing online and
[41:08] I will ... to show ... by color highlighting exactly
[41:13] what I'm referring to is is that possible
[41:18] Mr it
[41:20] thank you so the comments that that Mr Bergman's sent
[41:23] and they were circulated to council in their entirety we
[41:27] don't we have the policy here in front of us
[41:28] but we don't have is highlighted document in front of
[41:31] us oh okay well alright then then we'll proceed so
[41:36] you can see the subject title on page one of
[41:38] sailing of the disposition of land ... the policy direction
[41:42] is the sale another disposition of land the application of
[41:47] the bottom line refers to the sale and other disposition
[41:50] of land but then when we had two pages to
[41:54] through the conclusion there are no more references to other
[41:58] dispositions of laughter it's all sales that's what happens if
[42:02] you sell ... the same with the current with the
[42:07] proposed new policy ... it is called the policy for
[42:11] the sale of and disposition of land but it only
[42:15] deals with sales and so one would ask for what
[42:19] is other disposition of land well it would include at
[42:23] least it would include a ... a license it would
[42:27] include a right of way it would include a permit
[42:31] so there are so many ways that one can actually
[42:36] ... have a transaction with respect to lamb that is
[42:39] not a sales so what is happening here is the
[42:43] town ... and I believe this happened sort of inadvertently
[42:47] dating back to prior to two thousand and eight ...
[42:51] has only concerned itself with sales but you no one
[42:55] can the end and by the way I I don't
[42:58] know offhand where to locate the registry of town owned
[43:04] lands according to this document it's supposed to be a
[43:07] public document but when I go to the ... the
[43:10] website I I can't locate it but the town owns
[43:14] land and road allowances and rapes and throughout the ...
[43:19] is
[43:20] its geographic boundaries and ... there are future developments ...
[43:28] both for the infrastructure and ... you know residential ...
[43:34] in the prospect and the town can basically circumvent all
[43:39] these policies are for sale by simply leasing the lands
[43:45] giving a right away over the lands giving a right
[43:48] to occupy the lands giving a license for the lands
[43:52] so in that regard ... this policy is is basically
[43:57] half good it doesn't cover half of what the municipal
[44:01] act says that it's supposed to cover and ... ...
[44:06] it's an easy oversight but there are too many transactions
[44:10] that can possibly happen going forward ... for ... you
[44:15] know such an oversight to be allowed to continue it
[44:18] also is
[44:20] strictly speaking in violation of the municipal act requirements I'm
[44:25] at a few comments that I did make ... in
[44:28] my letter with respect to what is proposed ... the
[44:33] ... number one was the word ... best use ...
[44:39] as a modifier of fair market value ... I I
[44:44] I I I realize this is the thorny issue and
[44:47] it's very difficult ... but ... in one place the
[44:50] proposed new policy says that they will be ... ...
[44:54] potentially requesting a best use fair market value appraisal well
[45:03] we'll be ... ... that that that will be an
[45:06] interesting challenge ... you know to obtain exactly that appraisal
[45:12] I understand the the the complexity ... is there there
[45:17] is we're doing and the ... ... you know that
[45:22] the public benefit may be considered ... but in my
[45:25] letter I basically ask what is the best use for
[45:29] a piece of property that could potentially be a park
[45:33] or a beach is at a park or a beach
[45:36] or is it a ... commercial subdivision
[45:40] and ... recently I was ... ... in ... southern
[45:45] Ontario town driving along and I noticed all these beautiful
[45:48] beach fronts and very expensive ... you know subdivision country
[45:53] and ... and that thought that came to my mind
[45:57] ... there is an out clause one G. of the
[46:01] procedures of the ... sorry clause one a of the
[46:06] procedures ... and that deals with requests and I believe
[46:11] it's just the sort of garbled for lack of a
[46:15] better description request may be received and considered twice per
[46:18] year and that it goes on to say formal requests
[46:22] will be submitted to the town via a formal request
[46:25] for consideration
[46:27] by individuals groups and our corporations or number company now
[46:35] ... I I don't know what's meant by that does
[46:38] the town have corporations and a number company that can
[46:42] be making requests or is it just basically a a
[46:45] clause that needs to be ... ... we worked hard
[46:50] because as it stands it sounds like the town's corporations
[46:54] maybe making requests to buy town owned land but that
[46:58] doesn't make sense so ... just to a tiny issue
[47:03] and then the final thought I had was ... in
[47:06] the timing clause under proposed call us proposed policy clause
[47:11] one G. it refers depending council direction to to clear
[47:16] the town owned lands surplus staff may proceed with the
[47:21] disposition of town owned land and follow the process outlined
[47:25] and I I do believe that the intention is that
[47:30] ... council would direct before staff proceeds with the any
[47:37] disposition ... so other than that ... might be ...
[47:42] a better comments are in my letter and if you
[47:46] can turn your attention when you have a chance to
[47:49] the color highlighted versions of the existing policy on the
[47:53] current policy you'll notice thank thanks means sale and you'll
[47:59] notice in those pages where they're at the highlighting is
[48:01] just paying there is no green meaning for other dispositions
[48:07] so ... I'm available to my attorney questions you may
[48:10] wish to ask
[48:12] thank you Mr Bergman ... during during the the public
[48:16] section ... we'll take that take the notes in from
[48:18] from yourself and ... there's normally not back forth on
[48:22] the on the on the public comments section but I
[48:25] know I saw our CEO us writing notes as you're
[48:28] going along ... for that process most definitely ... so
[48:32] Sean if you wanna comment on that
[48:34] thank you W. more Deputy Mayor working out I wanna
[48:37] thank ... misprint for forced comments I will ensure that
[48:41] those comments and the review of his document ... are
[48:45] part of the ... report follow up report to the
[48:49] public being great points ... you know very helpful ...
[48:53] from from the perspective of of this sale as compared
[48:57] to the lease ... and the license in the right
[49:01] way comments so those ... those points will be ...
[49:04] included in the next ... follow up report and ...
[49:08] ... I would suggest that we may I may actually
[49:11] retired at some point during the drafting of that report
[49:13] to ... Mr Bergman just to make sure that we're
[49:16] on the right page so ... very very very helpful
[49:19] comments are being received thank you
[49:24] yes thank you Mr Bergman the very very clear and
[49:25] concise comments and ... you know if if that's okay
[49:28] with you than I do the sale may reach out
[49:31] to you well is drafting its report if that's alright
[49:33] with you
[49:35] yes it is thank you
[49:37] thank you very much for your comments Mr Bergman boy
[49:39] were received ... with that man clerk I see councillor
[49:43] Sampson has joined the meeting if you want to reflect
[49:45] that in the minutes
[49:46] and
[49:48] and with that ... I will go to the counsel
[49:52] table for questions for Mister Everett ... before we go
[49:56] back to the other comments so with that ...
[50:00] council colleagues of my questions for
[50:03] for Sean press CEO
[50:06] archer has presentation
[50:11] any comments relating to the the policy
[50:15] that we have in front of this
[50:19] all right ... seeing none madam clerk of any public
[50:21] I'm sorry R. all comments have been received and read
[50:26] that's right ... Mr chair all comments have been read
[50:29] Mr Brookman provided his comments ... verbally so I did
[50:33] not read his his correspondence thank you
[50:37] thank you and Mister Berger that has been distributed to
[50:39] all staff as well as anybody's in writing
[50:42] so what that meant clerk I can close off ...
[50:45] B. two thank you to all the people that have
[50:49] responded and I just wanna make sure that ...
[50:52] M. weather's questions and comments to come in that staff
[50:56] and I know that is this ... just want to
[50:57] say that they will be they will be addressed and
[50:59] sent back out to ... when when people did ask
[51:01] questions part as part of their correspondence to the proper
[51:04] department will reach out a business six years ago greetings
[51:08] it's good is one but the comment there think you
[51:10] ... with that amount of parking not sure if that
[51:14] matters here yet so I can continue on to be
[51:16] three ... with the addition of our councillor Sampson
[51:20] ... B. three is revisions to the corporate hiring of
[51:23] employees policy peel L. C. O. R. zero seven zero
[51:28] six what is being proposed staff recommended repealing replacing the
[51:33] current hiring of employees policy P. O. L. C. O.
[51:36] R. zero seven zero six to include revisions that will
[51:39] provide efficiencies to the current recruitment and selection process recommendations
[51:43] and revisions will include updates to employee status definition to
[51:47] provide more clarity on permanent temporary and seasonal employment types
[51:52] additional statement on legislative requirements under the human Ontario merry
[51:56] parkland
[51:58] is now exiting and accessibility for Ontarians with disabilities act
[52:03] twenty oh five and how the town complies with the
[52:07] integrated standards regulation removing barriers Director current process upon hire
[52:12] additional statement the unionized positions we posted in accordance with
[52:15] the collective agreement
[52:18] and for updates job posting and advertising timelines requirements that
[52:22] incorporate new strategies and flexibility to allow staff to be
[52:24] more responsive staffing needs they can in that consistently changing
[52:29] and competitive labor market
[52:32] so with that man clerk ... I will have any
[52:36] comments been around with that bit been received from the
[52:38] public thank you Mr chair I can permit notice of
[52:42] this public meeting was given in accordance with the town's
[52:44] notice policy in response no comments have been received and
[52:49] Serra trainer of the manager of HR is here to
[52:52] provide a presentation
[52:54] welcome Sir and thank you all turn the Mike over
[52:56] to you for your presentation
[52:58] thank you and good afternoon and so you can go
[53:01] to next slide please greener thank you so ... in
[53:06] terms of where we are today following direction from council
[53:09] at the twenty nine November twenty ninth meeting and stuff
[53:12] about the draft hiring employees policy to this public meeting
[53:16] to receive comments as required under the town's noticed policy
[53:20] and next slide
[53:23] thank you so this just gives an overview of the
[53:26] process we've taken today to ensuring adequate notice of the
[53:29] public meeting has been provided and from this meeting that
[53:33] timeline by which will report back to committee and council
[53:36] the recommendations and implied that we received next please
[53:43] all right so I'm next couple slices give ... overview
[53:47] of the prize River I'm sorry revised revisions to the
[53:52] policy and we'll go through all that is it a
[53:54] provisions but I'll just highlight it use the staff are
[53:58] recommending strength strengthening the language regarding legislative requirements on the
[54:03] Ontario human rights code in accommodating employees and accessibility through
[54:07] the recruitment process as well as updating some definitions to
[54:11] provide a bit more clarity regarding employment status ... we've
[54:15] also enhanced our internal process for hiring managers to initiate
[54:19] the recruitment process uniforms ... we've also added some language
[54:23] ... just around the improper influencing our permanent selection decisions
[54:28] and that's with just within the consequences for non compliance
[54:30] section
[54:32] in the next slide please all right so most of
[54:35] the recommended revisions are around job posting and advertising of
[54:40] positions and really the intent is to incorporate new strategy
[54:44] and the bucs ability to allow staff to be more
[54:46] responsive and nimble to developing conditions while ensuring ... a
[54:51] fair consistent and transparent hiring process and what is very
[54:55] much at competitive labor market
[54:58] the some of those suggest revisions include reducing the number
[55:01] of
[55:02] business days a position would be posted for so from
[55:05] ten to five business days ... and there would be
[55:09] still that option or if the hiring manager to extend
[55:13] our that post hosting if they felt it was necessary
[55:16] ... allowing for temporary contract contracts of any duration to
[55:21] be posted internally first and that would just give her
[55:25] employees priority consideration for these opportunities so to promote career
[55:29] development cross training assists with succession planning and provide opportunity
[55:33] for employees to take on some special work assignment
[55:37] and another suggest revision and again in an effort to
[55:40] promote employees from within and retain our greats
[55:44] yeah if a temporary position becomes permanent so whether that
[55:47] be through the budget process or ... incumbent not returning
[55:50] from a leave of absence an employee in a temporary
[55:53] role would be placed in a permanent position with out
[55:56] of competition subject to acceptable performance ... and the director's
[56:01] approval
[56:03] and next slide please
[56:07] so those there again just some overview an overview of
[56:10] some of the proposed revisions and in terms of next
[56:13] steps ... doppler view public comment that we received I
[56:18] had to date ... and any suggestion that we received
[56:22] from council during this public meeting hi as well including
[56:26] some of the comments that we did receive at the
[56:28] November twenty third street home meeting as well and then
[56:31] the report will be brought forward February fifteenth committee of
[56:35] the whole meeting
[56:37] addicts thank you and all of minutes any comments or
[56:40] questions that
[56:41] council may have
[56:43] thank you Sir ... for the presentation with that ...
[56:46] the floor is open to the council colleagues for questions
[56:50] for our human resources department in relation to this new
[56:53] policy change
[56:56] are there any questions for Sir
[57:02] not seeing any site just of it jabber quick when
[57:04] ... I assume that ... because there the tighter competitive
[57:08] market and a lot of these changes are being made
[57:10] and ... I assume that ... from people you compete
[57:13] against are making similar changes
[57:18] but it hasn't been a discussion within the HR network
[57:22] but again we are trying to really justify their own
[57:25] process then and where we can be more competitive responsive
[57:29] ... at was really ... weren't an internal process soliciting
[57:33] feedback from hiring interested to make these recommended changes
[57:37] good to know thank you ... without announcing any other
[57:40] questions ... Madame clerk over you any that would close
[57:45] the public comments correct that's correct Mister chair no additional
[57:49] public comments regarding agenda item be three
[57:52] thank you with that we can close off the three
[57:55] and ...
[57:57] as I have not seen the merit believe still a
[58:01] conference I will continue on with B. for madam clerk
[58:05] ...
[58:07] with regard to your vision substantial bylaw at twenty twenty
[58:11] one seventy six as it relates to timelines associate with
[58:13] the release of agendas what is being proposed the blue
[58:18] mountains council will be holding a public meeting to receive
[58:20] comments on the proposed changes of the procedure bylaw twenty
[58:23] twenty one dash seventy six as it relates to timelines
[58:26] associated with the release of objectives number one move the
[58:31] timeline for the release of agendas to Monday at three
[58:33] PM one week in advance of the meeting from the
[58:36] current Wednesday at three PM five days in advance of
[58:39] the meeting
[58:41] to move the deadline for submission of correspondence or a
[58:44] deputation request to Friday at nine AM ten days in
[58:48] advance of the meeting from the current Monday at nine
[58:51] AM one week in advance of the meeting
[58:54] and number three is move the deadline for submission of
[58:57] correspondence or deputations following the release of an agenda to
[59:01] Wednesday at twelve noon five days in advance of the
[59:04] meeting my current Friday twelve noon three days in advance
[59:07] of the meeting
[59:09] doesn't close changes ... without Madame clerk will turn it
[59:11] over to you for public comments received
[59:15] thank you Mr chair notice of this public meeting was
[59:18] given in accordance with the town's notice policy in response
[59:21] to comments have been received the first being a from
[59:25] the ... communications advisory committee ... their motion is as
[59:30] follows where's the committees what supports the earlier release of
[59:34] gender and agenda items and where's the public has been
[59:37] following the existing agenda released process for the last ten
[59:40] years the communications advisory committee recommends that the deadline to
[59:45] provide deputations any correspondence from the public remain the same
[59:49] being Monday at nine AM
[59:51] and from Blue Mountain ratepayers association this is from Terry
[59:55] Keller I read the comments now I'm Terry Keller in
[1:00:00] my comments on behalf of myself and the Blue Mountain
[1:00:02] ratepayers association I am currently on that board we support
[1:00:06] the proposal to move the release of the agenda as
[1:00:09] from Wednesday to the Monday being seven days before the
[1:00:12] meetings this move will give ratepayers who may have an
[1:00:15] interest or concern with an item on and that any
[1:00:18] agenda and earlier opportunity to research research and prepare however
[1:00:23] the proposed date for the submission of correspondence or deputation
[1:00:27] if the taxpayer is to respond to a concern remains
[1:00:30] at forty five hours after the agendas publication and our
[1:00:34] experience forty five hours is not adequate to research consult
[1:00:38] and to prepare proper response members of committees of the
[1:00:42] blue route repairs Association have always struggled with and sometimes
[1:00:45] fail to meet the short timeline would it be possible
[1:00:48] to have the deadline at nine AM on the Friday
[1:00:51] prior to the meeting
[1:00:53] as volunteers we have neither managers nor staff to handle
[1:00:56] the work and so we must budget our time many
[1:00:59] interested citizens have working families and often the research and
[1:01:02] preparation must be accomplished in the evenings we feel that
[1:01:06] this would encourage more more participation by taxpayers worth both
[1:01:11] working and retired the process can be intimidating and the
[1:01:15] average citizen it made it takes time to find out
[1:01:18] what the process is and to work through it participation
[1:01:21] in a democracy is everyone's right and this is just
[1:01:24] the role should allow that participation to be easy and
[1:01:27] achievable please consider this recommendation as it comes from the
[1:01:30] extensive experience of art association and that's it Mr chair
[1:01:36] thank you Madame clerk and thank you to the communications
[1:01:39] the treasury committee as well as ...
[1:01:42] Terry and ... the PMR A. for their comments without
[1:01:45] a water bacteriophage station Madame clerk thank you Mr chair
[1:01:51] so I have a small presentation just to go over
[1:01:54] the proposed changes
[1:01:56] I'm on the second slide you'll see um we received
[1:01:59] a direction from council to move forward with the public
[1:02:02] meeting at today to ... provide ... to allow the
[1:02:06] public an opportunity to provide their comments in response to
[1:02:09] the proposed changes
[1:02:12] the next slide shows of the public notice and approval
[1:02:15] process we received that ... council direction we advertised on
[1:02:20] in the newspaper and on the town's website we ...
[1:02:24] received correspondence interest in response being two comments
[1:02:29] ... if the depending on on how many comments are
[1:02:33] received to date I'm hoping to provide a follow up
[1:02:36] report to the public meeting ... to the committee of
[1:02:39] the whole meeting on February the first
[1:02:42] and recommendations from February first maybe the whole will be
[1:02:45] considered by council on February the fourteenth
[1:02:49] she was gonna do a short overview of the proposed
[1:02:52] revisions
[1:02:54] so
[1:02:55] the proposed revisions are the deputation requesting correspondences are to
[1:03:00] be included on the council committee the whole agenda must
[1:03:02] be received by the clerk's office by nine AM on
[1:03:05] the Friday being ten days in advance of the subject
[1:03:07] meeting
[1:03:09] council committee the whole agendas are released by three on
[1:03:12] the Monday prior to accounts or committee of the whole
[1:03:14] meeting this will be our one week in advance of
[1:03:17] the meeting
[1:03:19] following the recent release of the agenda as the public
[1:03:21] will have until noon on the Wednesday evening five days
[1:03:24] in advance just a minute Deputy shore Custer correspondence in
[1:03:28] response to any matter that's included on the agenda on
[1:03:30] an agenda at the in the council or committee of
[1:03:33] the whole
[1:03:35] the revised council committees will agenda is released by the
[1:03:38] end of the day Wednesday five days in advance of
[1:03:41] the kit councillor committee of the whole meeting
[1:03:45] and on the following the next page I've done a
[1:03:47] bit of a a summary just to show the current
[1:03:50] in the proposed deadlines
[1:03:53] what you'll see is an example of the deadlines as
[1:03:56] it relates to the January thirty first council and February
[1:03:59] first committee of the whole meeting so the first bulleted
[1:04:02] item ... the so anyone that wants to appear as
[1:04:06] a deputation earth provide comments or correspondence to council of
[1:04:11] the current deadline is Monday January twenty fourth at nine
[1:04:14] AM the proposed deadline would go to the Friday January
[1:04:17] twenty first at nine AM
[1:04:20] the council committee the whole package is released the current
[1:04:23] deadline is Wednesday January twenty six the proposed deadline would
[1:04:28] be Monday January twenty fourth
[1:04:32] once that packages released ... that often he also will
[1:04:36] be aware of the public will receive a package and
[1:04:40] they'll say ... I would like to submit deputation request
[1:04:43] or correspondence in response to an item that's included on
[1:04:46] the agenda so that deadline will move from the Friday
[1:04:49] immediately before the meeting to the Wednesday being five days
[1:04:53] in advance from the from the current three days in
[1:04:56] advance
[1:04:58] and then the revised agenda including all additional deputations and
[1:05:02] correspondence currently the deadline if it's released by end of
[1:05:06] day Friday now we'll go to Wednesday January twenty six
[1:05:10] days that
[1:05:13] I believe rob since
[1:05:16] is that question
[1:05:19] yeah really just just your summary amount parking then we'll
[1:05:21] go to council sense okay thank you ... and next
[1:05:25] steps counts ... staff will review the public comments and
[1:05:28] council's comments and bring forward at a follow up report
[1:05:31] for council consideration if it fits council's desire we will
[1:05:36] pass that a by law to amend the procedural
[1:05:40] I can answer any questions
[1:05:42] thank you Madame clerk ... I believe that should be
[1:05:45] February first twenty twenty two cal football sorry thank you
[1:05:50] no problem ... with that I will turn it over
[1:05:52] to the counsel table and I can sense and because
[1:05:55] it's virtual end up near ... Bravo at
[1:05:59] yes thank
[1:06:00] you're going up so what would be the fix them
[1:06:03] to the point that Terry raise I guess it would
[1:06:06] be going back to the Friday is that is that
[1:06:08] the fix it would fix the concerns done so and
[1:06:13] thank you through you Mr chair so concern raised by
[1:06:17] Keller implement ratepayers association was this the span of time
[1:06:21] between when the package goes out so currently the package
[1:06:25] goes out on the Wednesday and anyone wanting to submit
[1:06:28] a correspondence or deputation in response to an item on
[1:06:31] the agenda what would have until the Friday so that
[1:06:34] would be from Wednesday at potentially three and tell Friday
[1:06:39] at noon so what I'm proposing is is moving those
[1:06:42] dates back two days old the package what Monday they
[1:06:47] would have until Wednesday noon so ... Mr Keller is
[1:06:51] asking if we could continue the deadline being a Friday
[1:06:56] so they would have until from Monday when the package
[1:06:59] is released so the Friday at noon to provide that
[1:07:03] additional deputation there or correspondence to be added to ...
[1:07:08] to the package the concern I have with that
[1:07:12] is that
[1:07:14] when we receive the follow up visit deputies request a
[1:07:17] follow up correspondence what happens is we receive that the
[1:07:21] package goes out Friday afternoon it includes it could include
[1:07:25] a number of deputations could include a number of number
[1:07:29] of additional correspondences then
[1:07:32] eight trigger sometimes others wishing to provide additional comments and
[1:07:36] when we meet on Monday morning at nine AM I
[1:07:40] monitor my my emails all weekend so that council has
[1:07:43] the most up to date information and comments in response
[1:07:47] so I do as council's aware I'm I'm often replying
[1:07:51] over the weekend to provide council with that information because
[1:07:54] there's no time on Monday morning before council meetings are
[1:07:57] meeting start at nine AM so that was something that
[1:08:01] that ... Terry Keller had asked that that deadline continue
[1:08:04] on the frock to the Friday
[1:08:06] I'm just so
[1:08:09] 10
[1:08:11] just relation that the time frame we are was what
[1:08:13] date is it still the same amount of time it's
[1:08:16] right for the public correct that's right okay ... follow
[1:08:20] up robin and ... accounts here
[1:08:23] it ... yes ... just wanting whether you did the
[1:08:28] old Canadian thing coming had yet made it Thursday
[1:08:33] yeah thank you very much the difference in the game
[1:08:36] make everybody happy noted that not but I'll getting inside
[1:08:39] it gives a little bit more time for the point
[1:08:43] that Mr Callum was raising which is you know I
[1:08:46] think people need the chance to do their research
[1:08:50] and yet gives you a bit of time to recover
[1:08:54] from that ... because there's some things to deal with
[1:08:57] on Friday on the business day not quite ...
[1:09:01] you know complete but I'm just gonna whether we might
[1:09:04] do a lot of the we've it to see if
[1:09:06] you could make that work if I can certainly include
[1:09:09] that in the fall of staff report most definitely thank
[1:09:11] you thanks Anderson thank you thanks Robert see I was
[1:09:14] going to suggest something you know ... if we allow
[1:09:17] the public little part time but you know so the
[1:09:19] nature not getting enough the emails from Karina well
[1:09:24] that's okay work part of the part of the job
[1:09:27] with that'll go to council your
[1:09:30] all those two things to keep in mind when we
[1:09:33] look talking about to access extending that particular time or
[1:09:37] giving it a little bit of flexibility ...
[1:09:42] one is most of the most important things that we
[1:09:45] do with me with the council have already been in
[1:09:48] front of the public for quite some time by the
[1:09:50] time they get to this stage
[1:09:53] so at that point I think
[1:09:56] particulate blue not rate payers may have had a head
[1:09:59] start on some of these things yes to boot the
[1:10:03] other party is there's always the day of the council
[1:10:07] meeting itself where they're allowed to add items to whatever
[1:10:12] their presentation would have normally being sold I'm not so
[1:10:16] sure that ...
[1:10:18] one it's as important
[1:10:22] to give them that much flexibility and I'm not saying
[1:10:26] not to I'm just saying that I'm not sure it's
[1:10:28] all that important because most of the really good stuff
[1:10:32] they we give them a lot more time
[1:10:35] to take a look at it then what does this
[1:10:39] kind of exercise really shelves
[1:10:45] thank you Jim your comments ... without over a concert
[1:10:48] hall the next in the queue ... counselor at yes
[1:10:52] thank you other P. Mayor I think that ... the
[1:10:55] ex so first of all I think would be ...
[1:10:58] suggestion of Thursday councillor Sampson suggestions sort of going down
[1:11:01] the middle it's a very good one because I do
[1:11:03] think the public is looking for more time so with
[1:11:07] forty five hours before forty five hours now we extend
[1:11:10] that on the proposal of weeks on that I think
[1:11:13] that that would be meaningful the public because ... there
[1:11:16] is a strategic time frame as well to make sure
[1:11:19] that your input is placed and and I do I
[1:11:21] do think it's important ... as part of the process
[1:11:26] that we that council here's what it needs to here's
[1:11:29] as soon as it can yeah ... so I think
[1:11:32] that that's the first thing second ... item for me
[1:11:36] ... Mr chair is for you to the clerk I
[1:11:39] believe that the community ... a communications advisory committee if
[1:11:43] you can bring forward their motion I believe that it
[1:11:46] does and that comes from citizens ... I am a
[1:11:49] member of that group and and so is our at
[1:11:52] the lake to Deputy Mayor our OP hotter ... so
[1:11:56] when that motion came forward ... I do believe that
[1:11:59] that's exactly the request as well would you want to
[1:12:01] just to ... confirm that ... madam chair I don't
[1:12:04] have the motion in front of me
[1:12:08] through you Mr chair I can read that again yes
[1:12:11] I read it verbatim where where is the committee supports
[1:12:15] the earlier release object of agenda and agenda items
[1:12:19] and where is the public has been following the existing
[1:12:22] agenda released process for the last ten years
[1:12:25] that the community communications advisory committee recommends that the deadline
[1:12:31] to provide deputations any correspondence for the public remain the
[1:12:35] same being Monday at nine AM
[1:12:41] oh okay all right so
[1:12:49] right so so the committee is looking for yes okay
[1:12:52] no I just wanted to confirm what the understanding was
[1:12:55] ... and as I said I do think that ...
[1:12:59] that that extra time is very meaningful to the public
[1:13:01] so and we are making a change when something is
[1:13:04] ten years ... establish we want to make sure that
[1:13:07] we give people time in and out to make a
[1:13:11] change and to be able to have more time to
[1:13:15] prepare their case so ... so great to hear all
[1:13:19] of the input and ... thank you Mr chair
[1:13:22] I think answer hope
[1:13:24] any other questions any other questions or comments from the
[1:13:27] floor
[1:13:29] no I'm I'm I'm
[1:13:32] I think the suggestions are are great and maybe Thursday's
[1:13:34] a great compromise that gives the public a little more
[1:13:36] time but also because the clerk time to do her
[1:13:38] job and then that it information and our ends as
[1:13:41] well ... so ... we'll leave that to Madame clerk
[1:13:44] because she will be bringing forth a staff report to
[1:13:46] ... cal first this only public meeting we have to
[1:13:49] go to cal and we still to go to council
[1:13:51] so the time for further discussion once we do that
[1:13:54] unplug settle public comments received during in relation to be
[1:13:57] for
[1:13:58] that said Mr chairman thank you for the comments she
[1:14:01] thank you with that we can close off our last
[1:14:03] public comment ... we move right into notice of meeting
[1:14:06] dates ... we have a council meeting January thirty first
[1:14:10] twenty twenty two town hall council chambers and virtual ...
[1:14:14] that we have a Cao meeting on February first twenty
[1:14:17] twenty two same ... virtual and online and council public
[1:14:22] meeting will be February seventh ... which will be virtual
[1:14:26] as well ... without that concludes our our for our
[1:14:30] four sections or public comments today thank you public for
[1:14:32] making all their comments and staff and counsel for the
[1:14:35] questions comments recommendations with that I will look for more
[1:14:39] that this council does not return at two eight PM
[1:14:43] to meet again February seventh twenty twenty two town hall
[1:14:46] council chambers or at the call of the chair cover
[1:14:48] mover to second place
[1:14:52] I will move Andrea councillor match such move that seconded
[1:14:56] by councillor local second councillor hope thank you moved across
[1:15:00] much of technical circle might clear to you for the
[1:15:02] vote
[1:15:08] thank you Mr chair the borders open
[1:15:11] that was closed
[1:15:16] that motion's carried five nothing thank everybody for your time
[1:15:18] today into the public and stuff very much appreciate it
[1:15:21] a good rest of the day
[1:15:24] thank you Mr Deputy Mayor