[0:12] Thank you.
[0:22] » No, that is not a sign.
[0:39] There's the best man here right there.
Shaking his
[0:43] best.
That's the hardest working man.
[0:57] » I know.
[1:01] » I'm ready for snow.
>> I think you're serious.
[1:07] » I'm very serious.
[1:11] Can't do that.
[1:30] Yeah.
[1:33] » All right. It's 6 o'clock. We'll call
the order.
[1:38] Guess he's not sharing.
>> Right. We real I just realized as I look
[1:43] down that that's not correct. Okay. So,
>> be real call.
[1:46] » Um, Alderwoman Payne
>> here.
[1:49] » Alderman Malone
>> here. Alderwoman Keith
[1:52] » here.
>> Vice Mayor Adams
[1:54] » here.
>> Alderman Johnson
[1:56] » here.
>> All right. Uh we can Alderwoman Keith,
[2:02] you don't want to lead us in the
prayers.
[2:06] » In the name of Jesus, dear heavenly
father, we come to you Lord in the only
[2:10] way we know how, asking you to please
forgive us for all of our sins. Lord, we
[2:14] thank you for your grace and your mercy.
Lord, we thank you for how you look
[2:18] beyond our many, many faults and you see
our needs. Oh, Father God, I ask Lord
[2:23] that you watch over each and every one
of us. Lord, keep us covered under your
[2:27] blood, the balance of our family, Father
God. Lord, you know all about us. You
[2:32] know what we all stand in need of. And
Lord, I lift up people that are
[2:36] grieving. I lift up Sister Sarah and her
family to you, Lord. Lord, I ask that
[2:41] you continue to bless them. Give them
the strength to get through what they're
[2:44] going through. And Lord, I lift up the
Taylor family to you. Please give them
[2:49] the strength, God. But Father God, we
need you. We can't make it without you.
[2:54] And Lord, I ask that you bless this
meeting. Lord, lead us in the directions
[2:58] that you would have us to go. And Father
God, I'll be so careful to give you all
[3:03] the glory, all the honor, and all the
praise. In Jesus holy name we pray. And
[3:09] everybody said, "Amen."
>> Amen.
[3:14] I pledge allegiance to [clears throat]
the flag of the United States of America
[3:18] and to the republic for it stands one
nation under God indivisible and justice
[3:24] for all.
[clears throat]
[3:33] » All right. First
[3:37] » item on our agenda is discussion and
action for approval of meeting minutes
[3:42] » for June 2nd and June 9th. So we'll open
up discussion now.
[3:51] » Any discussion?
[3:55] » Well, the one for June the second, I'm
just going to repeat it again. I don't
[4:00] think that there's enough information in
the meeting minutes. So, I know several
[4:05] of board members have comments that they
made under old and new business, but
[4:12] they're not in here other than saying
everybody welcome something. So,
[4:18] » do we know
[4:22] we have a motion to approve minutes?
[snorts]
[4:26] » I'll make a motion to approve.
I'll second.
[4:34] » Sure. Alderwoman Payne.
>> Alderman Malone.
[4:39] » Yes.
>> Alderwoman Keith.
[4:41] » Yes.
>> Vice Mayor Adams.
[4:43] » Yes.
>> Alderman Johnson.
[4:45] » Yes.
>> All right. That leads us to the first
[4:49] session of public comments.
Everyone's welcome to come up and get
[4:53] their three minutes.
[4:58] » [snorts]
>> My name is Sarah
[5:02] and I'm
[5:06] going to hand you
>> Yeah.
[5:25] » Thank you.
[5:31] tap on it.
[5:43] » Anyway, I'm going to hand you all some
flyers. The back to school bash is
[5:47] coming up for our community. It's a free
event and this is for kids all over the
[5:53] area. uh we are currently uh getting
sponsors. So even as an individual if
[6:01] you would like to sponsor the back to
school bash you're welcome to contact
[6:05] us. Um we do have quite a few sponsors
on board already and uh it's going to be
[6:11] a very successful uh community event and
we're looking forward to seeing all
[6:16] these little kids that needs school
supplies. It's very heartwarming when uh
[6:21] you see a lot of these kids come through
that really really need some things. So,
[6:27] and uh there's going to be free
haircuts. Uh Lil Caesars and Pony Plats
[6:31] is uh donating pizzas and they're going
to come out and serve. Uh we have a lot
[6:36] of volunteers already stepping up and uh
it's going to be a good event. So
[6:44] you all want to hand those out to them
up after church business.
[7:02] Just want to say I do appreciate um the
community and things that came out for
[7:07] Patriots Day. We had a storm. It's a
little after 2:00. Uh some things got
[7:14] pretty rough down there at the ball
field and uh one of the inflatables, I
[7:19] don't know if you all have noticed. Um
the wind picked it up and damaged two
[7:24] sets of bleachers down there at the ball
field or Patriots say. So, I'm I've been
[7:30] in touch with uh uh Steve McMillan and
everything. So, um we're going to be
[7:37] working on those bleachers and getting
them repaired and things like that. So,
[7:42] I'm just thankful nobody got hurt
>> and I know I was in contact with Christa
[7:47] and and Lori thanks about it. So, um,
but we appreciate the community that
[7:53] came out and, uh, I know Bless City
Elementary School raised a little bit of
[7:58] money for, um, their PTO program and
hopefully, you know, we can get together
[8:05] with the town this next year and make it
an even bigger event. So, we're looking
[8:10] forward to that.
>> Thank you.
[8:13] » Thank you.
[8:18] » Hello.
Hopson
[8:22] drive. You hear me?
>> Barely.
[8:24] » Barely.
>> Okay. I asked this question off the
[8:28] record last year, so I'm going to ask it
on the record this year. Why are we
[8:32] paying our public public's works
employees to weed eat citizens residents
[8:38] banks along Bluff City Highway here from
4489 down? They are weed eating
[8:46] private residents. Thanks. And I would
like to know why.
[8:54] » I can ask our public works director and
get back to you if you want to give me
[8:57] your contact information.
>> Yes, absolutely. Please. Um because if
[9:01] that's what our tax dollars are going
for, I have a big old bank donut, Ben.
[9:05] Donut. Um they they're welcome to come.
We eat mine.
[9:10] I'm just saying. and that's not what our
our tax dollars should be going for. Um
[9:14] my second question is there is an a
house about the 4489 location um they
[9:21] put up back on the hill three, four,
five years ago just sitting there just
[9:25] rotting. It's not even finished. Has
anybody questioned that? We're just
[9:29] going to sit there and let it rot. Um
[9:35] » again, if you want to give me your
contact information,
[9:37] » we'll be glad to. Yep.
>> Yes. And I can't stay the whole night.
[9:41] Okay. So, if I can do that now,
[9:46] » I'm not sure, but I do believe that they
weed it from the middle of the pipe, the
[9:52] middle of the road
50 ft.
[9:55] » They eat that whole bank down.
>> No, from the middle of the road up to
[10:00] » Well, I hope we don't have the middle of
the road. We the middle of the road,
[10:04] » but they can do that at my house, too,
and every other citizen within. a lot of
[10:09] state highway. I mean, she's talking
about on there, but it's also if you
[10:13] look like and I don't know on that one,
but normally if you look where telephone
[10:18] poles are, uh, that's the rightway. Uh,
and and basically on them, they do go
[10:26] even
at different things. There are some
[10:29] rightways is 5, 10, 15t on both sides of
the pole.
[10:34] » So, if I have a pole on my property,
they're going to tell when you get it.
[10:37] » Well, I'm not saying
I can't I can't commit to anybody. I'm
[10:40] just telling you that at most times that
when a lot of the stuff you'll see on
[10:44] the highway is um from a rideway,
you know, a city right away.
[10:52] » I do agree though that the right there
once you come around Dead Man's Curve,
[10:58] that area all the way down through there
really looks bad and it definitely needs
[11:04] to be cut back and
Take that down through there. Can some
[11:12] across the road over there as well?
[11:21] Anybody else want to make public
comments?
[11:27] All right, moving along. We got
discussion and action. The annual
[11:31] contract with First Tennessee
Development District for planning
[11:34] contract services.
We can begin the discussion now.
[11:40] » Did go ahead.
>> Sure. I can just bring that forward.
[11:43] Right now we use uh First Tennessee for
a number of items including uh planning
[11:47] commission and helping us with grants
and right now we I just utilize them a
[11:53] lot for the planning and zoning
questions that I have. As people come in
[11:56] with questions, I take down their email
address. Um I described this in an email
[12:00] to you guys actually. Uh, so then I
email our contacts, Connor and Daniel
[12:05] over at First Tennessee, and copy the
the person asking the question. And so
[12:10] that way as they talk back and forth, I
have the information, I'm getting the
[12:14] information, and I can um just kind of
keep track and make sure it's all closed
[12:17] out.
But we do use them quite heavily for a
[12:21] number for those items as well as um
they they help with reimbursements for
[12:25] our grants. So they upload all that
information, uh they upload those
[12:29] receipts, those everything. So they take
a lot off of my plate to be able to do
[12:32] all of that.
>> Well, what we've seen in the past with
[12:34] First Tennessee is if you don't push
them, they won't do anything. So I mean,
[12:39] if they're, you know, they're continuing
to do work for Bluff City.
[12:44] » Yes.
>> Then I'm fine with it. But if you leave
[12:46] them alone, they won't do anything,
>> right? And so I'm utilizing them as much
[12:50] as I can right now, especially with
planning and zoning questions because
[12:52] it's just something that I can hand to
them. That's what we pay them for. It
[12:56] takes it off my plate. Um, but then also
the grants. um I received now I'm on the
[13:01] systems to be able to see what is
uploaded and I will see them uploading
[13:05] reimbursements and things of that nature
for our grants.
[13:08] » How many grants are are there on there
that they upload and reimburse
[13:13] » for right now? I believe we are on three
that we get reimbursements for. Um but I
[13:19] have to double check that number. I just
see the emails come through saying it's
[13:23] been uploaded. So,
>> but it's not grant money that we got for
[13:26] the water plant. Correct.
No.
[13:29] » Okay. All right. That's a different
idea.
[13:32] » Does it pay for
And does it does it for sale?
[13:38] » I believe it is. Um because otherwise we
would have to hire someone to help with
[13:42] the planning and zoning questions. Um
alone, not to mention the grants and
[13:47] everything of that nature.
[13:53] » Well, we don't have any planning and
zoning meetings. We know that. Right.
[13:59] We're going to start increasing that.
What happened is the again the new
[14:03] Daniel and Connor, they're going to be
working with the planning commission.
[14:06] They want to go over that planning and
zoning ordinance to see what needs to be
[14:11] updated, any recommendations from the
board and the public and then work with
[14:14] them on updating all of those. Um, they
want to do that on a more regular basis.
[14:19] » Okay. But was that the one that we just
updated in like 2024?
[14:25] 2023 I think
>> 2023. Yeah. So that's the same one.
[14:30] » But there are recommendations especially
with tiny homes and things of that
[14:33] nature that are coming about that we
need to start incorporating. For
[14:37] example, I think we have a definition
for a tiny home but then it's not
[14:40] referenced anywhere in the actual
ordinance. So they want to start working
[14:44] with the commission on what what can be
updated. I would also like for those
[14:50] meetings, planning and zoning meetings
be uploaded to our YouTube to our
[14:55] website for that. Okay. Because they
haven't been okay. I can do that.
[15:00] » Now, this is just for planning and
development districts.
[15:07] We're asking tonight discussion action
annual contract for development. Are you
[15:12] talking about the whole contract with
First Tennessee?
[15:17] should be the whole contract that it
was. Yeah.
[15:22] » And the cost did do you remember the
cost done that year?
[15:26] » 13,000.
>> Yeah. And it didn't go up this year.
[15:30] » 1207.
[15:39] » Any more discussion?
[15:46] We have a motion to approve contract.
[15:54] » I'll make a motion to approve.
[clears throat]
[16:01] » I have a second.
[16:12] » All right. Uh, Alderwoman P. Yes.
Alderman Malone,
[16:16] » yes.
>> Alderwoman Keith,
[16:18] » yes.
>> Ald Vice Mayor Adams,
[16:20] » yes.
>> Alderman Johnson,
[16:22] » yes.
[16:27] » All right. Next item on the agenda is a
discussion and action for a consulting
[16:32] engagement agreement with Blackburn
Children's Instagal PLC.
[16:37] And open up uh the discussion now.
>> I need to know what it is. Meet you. So,
[16:44] » was that not sent in the email?
>> No, not that.
[16:48] » I sent it out, I believe, also last
week.
[16:52] » Yes. Um, and that is for helping us with
the CPA for the pre- audit that I
[16:58] discussed a few times before as well as
helping us kind of streamline a lot of
[17:02] our financial policies. What can be
brought online, what can be, you know,
[17:06] uh, uh, streamlined, what can be just
modernized. A lot of our systems are
[17:12] very antiquated. They're also going to
help us go through the books and help uh
[17:17] with the pre- audit, help with uh making
sure items are going to the right class
[17:22] lines and helping us understand if any
of these class lines can be shrunken or
[17:26] if they need to be expanded. Um for
example, like the heritage days and
[17:30] Christmas parade being separated out. Um
but also combining any class lines that
[17:35] may need to happen. They're just really
going to help us move forward and and
[17:39] start not fresh but move forward.
>> I uh will that also include the audit on
[17:48] Sharon Green? I mean it's my
understanding that when like a CMFO when
[17:52] a finance officer leaves retires
that for their benefit
[17:58] and to protect them that it does kick in
an audit.
[18:03] » I did mention that to MTAS. They said
that an actual quote unquote audit would
[18:08] make it look like we're kind of going
after her. But if we bring in a pre-
[18:12] audit to help close the books, that kind
of adds it kind of acts as that audit
[18:17] for her.
>> But it is the same thing. It will it
[18:21] Sharon Green is really the the line
separating. Um but it's auditing our
[18:27] books in total,
>> but it will include it.
[18:31] » Yes. Okay.
Uh, do you have a cost on that?
[18:36] » We It's I believe $200 an hour for an
associate.
[18:41] » Yeah, those are expensive. Um, but I
believe that in the long term it'll be
[18:46] worth it if we're going to hire someone
with less experience. Uh, because that's
[18:50] all that we could afford for less
experience for a new financial officer.
[18:53] » But now, we have not discussed that yet.
So, we're
[18:56] » Well, I know. But I'm saying
>> we're not sure we're going to go in that
[18:59] direction.
>> Well, right now we haven't had enough
[19:01] applica. We haven't had anyone with any
qualification like
[19:05] » we didn't advertise the CMF,
>> did we?
[19:09] » Yes,
>> we did.
[19:11] » Yes.
>> I thought it was a financial officer.
[19:13] » Well, it's a financial officer. Yes.
>> But they're different. Financial officer
[19:18] and a CMFO. Certified municipal.
>> Well, it's in there saying
[19:25] um that they would have to get their
CMFO. We may not be able to hire
[19:29] » Well, sending them to school. That's
what I'm saying. It's almost like we're
[19:33] putting a cart before the horse here
because
[19:36] » the board members have not yet decided
that we want to go that way.
[19:42] » I mean, I don't know.
>> Well, we have to hire a finance officer.
[19:48] Um, I put in the job description, we
would want someone with their CMFO
[19:53] certification, but for the pay that we
can afford that it would be someone
[19:58] probably with lesser qualifications.
Um, or they would have to we would have
[20:02] to send them to the CMFO training. Um,
but hiring a firm like this will help
[20:08] kind of prepare that office for this
person.
[20:12] » And how many months are we talking about
here?
[20:14] » We don't know yet.
How many people are coming in?
[20:19] » Excuse me. I didn't catch the right.
>> It's I believe $200 for an
[20:24] » I'm sorry.
>> 200
[20:26] » $200
>> an hour for an associate.
[20:31] » Um so we don't know um
>> how many hours a day, how many weeks?
[20:37] » And it's 400 for a partner, but they
when I spoke to them, they don't believe
[20:41] that a partner will need to be involved,
but they have to put the rate in there
[20:44] just in case.
>> Okay. So they're pro I mean I hate to
[20:48] ask have to ask these questions but are
they basically planning on coming in and
[20:53] working an 8 hour shift?
>> No no no no 4 hour shift and
[20:58] » we haven't discussed that part yet
because we we are trying to figure out
[21:02] what that you're even going to look at.
I can't let them look at anything to get
[21:06] an idea until we have an agreement with
them. Um so that's why and I it's one of
[21:13] those they will not be coming in full
time. They will be coming in a couple
[21:16] hours a week to start just to kind of
get an idea of what they're looking at
[21:20] and then I will bring forward any future
um plans with you to to the board for
[21:26] approval just because I don't want to
just start, you know, looking like I'm
[21:30] just spending all this money on an
auditing firm. I want to make sure that
[21:34] you are fully brought into the loop with
any findings and any recommendations
[21:38] they have.
[21:41] Well, basically the shared salary and
benefits give or take is about $90,000.
[21:49] So, as long as we don't have anybody in
that capacity where we're paying out a
[21:54] salary is that, you know, that's 450
hours of time. You know what I'm saying
[22:02] is so as long as we just don't get real
crazy with the amount of hours and stuff
[22:08] » and thing but so I mean if we don't
hurry by in July then we'll have you
[22:14] know a 12th of 90,000
>> right
[22:17] » give or take and then August end we're
having so it's two you know what I'm
[22:22] saying is so it's basically $1,500 a
week just for maybe 2,000
[22:28] uh that we can pay without getting into
a negative on the budget is where I'm
[22:34] getting from.
>> Yep.
[22:37] » So, as long as we, you know, got some
measured stick of that or what we have
[22:42] what we're what in return of what we're
getting, you know.
[22:49] » So, what you're doing is going back and
backtracking everything.
[22:54] » Not everything. It would be closing the
books for this year.
[22:57] » For this year.
>> Yep. for uh the fiscal year ending June
[23:01] 30th, 2026.
>> Just for this year.
[23:04] » Yep. And then um but you know, they will
help us find any misattributions. Um
[23:10] anything that was put in the wrong class
line that you know, not for bad reasons,
[23:14] but just if anything is needs to be
shifted around, they'll help us with
[23:17] that.
>> Um
[23:19] » to maybe straighten things out.
>> Yes. Straighten things out. Yep. And
[23:23] they'll help us better understand some
of our class lines as well. Okay.
[23:31] » And I can bring a monthly report to you
as to what they have found so far and
[23:35] you know keep you updated on all of that
because this is a big this is a big ask.
[23:39] I do understand we definitely we
definitely do need to be in in included
[23:45] in in those updates and when you start
let us know in those updates how many
[23:52] hours that they work that week. I mean
they can't even give us an idea of who
[23:56] they look
>> and well until we approve them probably
[23:59] that
>> mean but I know these are I was going to
[24:02] say blackford children's and are very
well known they're very good they may be
[24:07] a little more expensive but they're
going to be way more efficient
[24:11] » um so I I don't think you know we're
we'd be going with the wrong company or
[24:15] anything or that that's too high of an
ask on the hourly rate because that's
[24:20] » they did come highly recommended by MES.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they've been around
[24:24] for a long time
>> and it will be complete transparency.
[24:28] You will come back to the board and let
us know if there's anything that
[24:32] » Absolutely. No.
>> Yes.
[24:34] » Right. All right.
>> Like I said, this is one of those big
[24:38] items that I definitely want to make
sure you are kept in the loop on. Um
[24:41] because I think I think we'll see some
changes in the budget moving forward uh
[24:46] as as they dig around and they find
things and just how we can move things
[24:50] around.
>> First of all, this has to be taken care
[24:52] of, right? All
[25:01] right. Is there any more discussion?
[25:07] » I make a motion that we move forward
with this.
[25:12] » But but maybe something in there if
like Jerry says, we keep an eye on the
[25:18] cost situation.
>> Yes. I don't think any of us up here
[25:21] want to write a blank check.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[25:26] You you are you are billing me down
there. So, yes. Yes, you are absolutely
[25:31] correct.
>> Don't ever sign if you're not
[25:33] authorized. You could get in serious
trouble for that.
[25:36] » That I would like to make a motion for
the consulting engagement agreement with
[25:42] Blackburn Childerson and Stagall uh PLC
for auditing.
[25:48] » Do we have a second?
[25:52] I'll second it. May I get a vote?
>> Alderwoman Payne,
[25:57] » yes.
>> Alderman Malone,
[25:59] » yes.
>> Alderwoman Keith,
[26:01] » yes.
>> Uh, Vice Mayor Adams,
[26:04] » yes.
>> Alderman Johnson,
[26:06] » yes.
>> All right. And next item on the agenda
[26:10] is discussion and action of ordinance
2026-005.
[26:14] That's an ordinance as the town of Bluff
City's internet cyber security sensitive
[26:19] information policy and procedure. So we
can open up discussion now.
[26:28] So as you know we were hit with our
audit. Um we've been tagged in the audit
[26:32] a few times year after year on not
having a cyber security policy. I worked
[26:36] with MTAS on they sent me a draft one
from another town. Um, and I was able to
[26:42] kind of just pull that together, tweak
it to our town, and and change a few
[26:45] things because it included social media,
but we already have a separate social
[26:48] media policy, so I removed that. You
know, those sorts of things. Um, but I
[26:52] tailored it to our town.
[26:59] » I didn't see anything that jumped out.
Maybe go ahead.
[27:07] » Good to have you tonight. That's
awesome.
[27:10] » So I mean anybody else have any comments
on
[27:15] » I mean oh when when will we start it?
Now it's time to tell us when we are
[27:23] » well this is just the first start.
>> So this is
[27:25] » well I know but it gives us a I mean
that would be 10 days from now. So
[27:31] » I mean but is our altus ready to start?
>> Yes.
[27:36] » Okay. A lot of it is what I would call a
common sense policy of don't click on
[27:40] links, don't open attachments, don't
open emails from people you didn't
[27:44] expect an email from. You know, the the
basics that we already know, but just
[27:49] putting it in writing that our employees
will ensure that they really make sure
[27:52] that the uh the sorry policies are
followed here, those common sense
[27:59] policies. It also includes them making
sure and they know this, but again, it's
[28:03] not in writing. They haven't signed
anything. They know not to share
[28:07] information on residents with other
residents. You know, oh, we just saw Jim
[28:11] Bob come in and he couldn't pay his
taxes. You know, that sort of thing.
[28:14] They aren't telling other people that.
That's also part of the security and
[28:18] privacy policy is making sure they
understand they can't do that. It Yeah.
[28:22] But this is going to be paying water and
sewer and garbage online and also our
[28:30] property taxes.
>> The So, we are moving forward with that.
[28:34] that's going to be part of my report.
Um, but but LGC handles the cyber
[28:40] security portion of that.
>> But purpose, that's what it's for. This
[28:45] is
>> this is for just the general purpose of
[28:48] everything. Our laptops, our computers
that we use, any com any work cell
[28:53] phones um that they do not uh you know
click on links that they're not supposed
[29:00] to click on. They're not supposed to go
to sites that you know aren't for work.
[29:03] they, you know, those sorts of things.
And then also just remembering to keep
[29:06] privacy because we are dealing with
people's homes and their bills and
[29:10] things of that nature.
>> Did this one also include the changing
[29:15] of the email addresses to make sure was
that another
[29:19] » I didn't include that? No, because
that's just kind of one of those
[29:23] internal policies where I told everyone
>> I wasn't quite
[29:26] » do not use your Gmail the Buff City
Gmail accounts anymore. We that's they
[29:30] are they that they have all been
assigned.
[29:33] » Correct. Okay.
[29:37] » All right. Any more discussion?
[29:42] » Do we have a motion to approve the
ordinance?
[29:45] » I make a motion for the first reading to
approve ordinance 20265.
[29:51] » Do I have a second? I'll second.
We get a vote.
[29:57] » Older woman P. Yes.
>> Alderman Malone.
[30:01] » Yes.
>> Alderwoman Keith.
[30:03] » Yes.
>> Vice Mayor Adams.
[30:05] » Yes.
>> Alderman Johnson.
[30:06] » Yes.
[30:10] » All right. Moving on to the next item on
the agenda. Discussion. Action. Approval
[30:14] of draft employee handbook.
>> I would like to have a workshop.
[30:22] » Okay. To go over this. We I mean this is
new for I mean I've never seen an
[30:28] employee handbook until now. And Eric,
had you ever I hadn't. Harold, had you
[30:36] seen one in the past?
>> Mayor Wills gave me one years ago.
[30:39] » Years ago, Jerry, I'm sure you probably
have. Eric, you not not Eric, but then
[30:45] you probably have. But I I think it
would be beneficial to us as board
[30:50] members to kind of go over that a little
bit if if nobody else minds or if if or
[30:56] if other people agree with me.
They would like to have a workshop.
[31:02] » Have you have you uh or I guess redone
it?
[31:08] » Yes. So what it was uh I worked with the
HR d uh coordinator for MTAS. His name
[31:13] is John Grubs. uh and he took our
current employee handbook that is
[31:17] woefully outdated from I think 2007 and
I had gone through and tagged and
[31:23] flagged and I know Miss Roberts did as
well. So I went you know through her
[31:27] edits as well and and made sure that
those were updated also took our
[31:30] ordinances that had passed you know
holidays things like that and I worked
[31:35] with Mr. Gross. He took all that
information and then al took all of
[31:39] those changes that we recommended but
also just brought up to date language
[31:44] federal and state language into the
employee handbook that are normal HR
[31:48] practices.
>> Mr. Bry, were you involved with that?
[31:52] » Yes.
>> Okay.
[31:54] Are you the keeper of the ordinances and
the resolutions?
[31:58] » No, I'm not.
>> Okay.
[32:01] I'd like to see at least a list of what
it was and what it's changed to.
[32:05] » Yeah. What you have,
>> right? Yeah.
[32:07] » Because I know you sent us a list of the
old one,
[32:10] » the draft.
>> I sent that was sent out a couple times.
[32:13] Yep.
>> But I can send it out again.
[32:15] » It's kind of confusing. [laughter]
>> Um, but I can So, the reason I
[32:20] originally didn't include the the the
old one was because he took it and he
[32:25] didn't just make line item edits. It was
a complete overhaul and just rewrote it.
[32:31] But [clears throat] I can I can print
off It was too large to send in an
[32:34] email. So I can just print off a copy of
the old handbook to hand to you if you
[32:38] want to look at it.
>> Well, I picked up a copy. You made me a
[32:42] copy. But is there a way that you can
highlight it in color what was changed
[32:48] from the old to the new words?
>> I I can try. It'll take me a bit of time
[32:53] because I'm working on a few other
items, but yes, I can.
[32:56] » I mean, we don't want to cause you if if
it we just knew what the highlights of
[33:00] it were.
>> But that's what I mean. It was such a
[33:02] huge overhaul like moving things around
in sections that but I can try to go
[33:07] through and do that.
>> The one you sent that's the new version,
[33:10] » correct?
>> Okay. I thought that was
[33:12] » I thought that was the old one.
>> And you got that one here. You got the
[33:16] new version.
>> Okay. Well, that's a little we need to
[33:18] look at it. But
>> Right. I can print off copies of the old
[33:21] one if you would all like to
>> seen it. But that's what Yeah, that's
[33:25] what she had to do for me was print off
an old copy.
[33:28] » Yep. I can do that.
>> All right. Does that mean we want to
[33:31] table this to another time or
>> let's play or can we set a date for
[33:35] work?
>> How you feel? How's everybody else feel
[33:38] about it? You want to proceed on this or
do we want to table it and do it another
[33:42] time?
>> I just remove it from the agenda if
[33:44] you're not going to vote on
>> Can we go ahead and set a a date for a
[33:51] workshop?
Can we do that, Mr. Pro?
[33:55] » We just do that.
>> Sure. Or you could have it when you have
[33:58] your monthly work session.
>> Okay. That would be the 28. That's the
[34:02] last Tuesday of the month.
>> I'm good for that. Is everybody else
[34:07] with that?
>> I'm fine with that.
[34:09] » I'm fine with that.
>> I'm great with that. And let's go ahead
[34:12] and get the ball rolling on it.
>> So, do I have a motion to remove this
[34:15] item from the agenda?
[34:20] » I'll make a motion to remove it.
Second it.
[34:23] » Get a vote, please.
[34:29] » Olderwoman Paige,
>> yes.
[34:31] » Alderman Malone,
>> yes.
[34:34] » Alderwoman Keith,
>> yes.
[34:35] » Vice Mayor Adams,
>> yes.
[34:37] » Alderman Johnson,
>> yes.
[34:38] » All right.
>> Can I make a motion that we have this
[34:44] workshop, the last year of this month?
>> Yep. I wrote it on here to and I'll put
[34:49] it in the minutes as well.
>> So we we don't have to do a motion in a
[34:52] second.
>> Yeah,
[34:55] » I just got to make sure it's on the
agenda.
[34:57] » Fantastic.
>> All right. Next item, discussion and
[35:00] action. Pressure washing credit on
utility bill.
[35:03] » So there is no action with this because
I had a few other questions that I
[35:06] wanted the board to kind of clarify
before uh we move forward with drafting
[35:11] an ordinance. It was recommended by Mr.
Roberts. And um actually when I spoke to
[35:17] the mayor about it, she had the same
recommendation. So it was actually kind
[35:20] of funny um that
we we send uh public works employees out
[35:26] to check the meter before and then again
after at the end of the pressure
[35:30] washing. Um but my question is should
that should the person try to schedule
[35:35] that for a weekend because then that
would only be during business hours
[35:38] Monday through Friday. If they want to
do it on the weekend, do we charge them
[35:42] a call out fee?
>> My god.
[35:44] » Well, but that's the thing. We're asking
people to come in to,
[35:49] » you know, on out of normal work hours to
to do something like that. So, or,
[35:56] » you know, we we take an average of what
they were versus what, you know, what
[36:02] their average bill is versus what we see
for an an increase for that month. I'm
[36:07] good with that as well. Um, it's just I
want to make sure we have that decided
[36:12] before I draft an ordinance.
[36:16] » I don't know. Should we give a certain
gallon amount credit?
[36:20] » Oh, two or
>> I don't know. I was trying to think of,
[36:25] you know, how we could, you know, not
pay public works to go out,
[36:29] » right? And pull them away from a project
if it's during the business day.
[36:33] » That's the right way. I mean, the right
way to do it, but we we are down to not
[36:37] many works and that's extra trip out
there and then the trip after that.
[36:42] » Yeah, it would be pulling during the
work hours it would be pulling them from
[36:45] a project and then during outside work
hours it would be pulling them in to
[36:50] come in to work outside.
>> Can we look at it from
[36:53] » calculation? But that's what I mean.
Yeah, I can look at how much water it
[36:57] would take for like a 2000
time of how many gallons if you come in
[37:04] and fill out the form that you're having
pressure wash again or we could also do
[37:09] the the normal average of the previous
five months or something like that,
[37:14] didn't they? I know Sandy would kind of
>> question.
[37:17] » Has it been a problem with this in the
past?
[37:20] » I've not heard it at I've been to a
couple of meetings here. I've never
[37:23] heard a problem about it. So, you're
trying to invent a problem. Is that what
[37:27] you're trying to do?
>> No, they've never allowed it.
[37:32] » We're trying to get people
in their house.
[37:36] » Yeah, we've never allowed.
>> Yes, they do.
[37:39] » If I may say something,
>> if I may say something, Jerry, I mean,
[37:46] » they won't be.
>> I think they can hear me. and you can
[37:53] » what I was going to say is uh we know
people are struggling the water bill and
[37:59] I will say this I just got my water bill
I'll use myself as an example my water
[38:05] bill it's $138
if you know where I live my house the
[38:11] size of my house and to have that my
house pressure washed and then on top of
[38:16] this $138
It's ridiculous. It is ridiculous. So,
[38:22] there's got to be some kind of solution.
Not only for myself, if you don't do it
[38:26] for me, do it for the citizens. Give
them a break.
[38:30] » It's not necessarily the the the water
usage.
[38:34] » It's the sewer. It's not going into all
that water's not going into the sewer.
[38:40] » Our water rates in this town are not
bad. Our sewer rates are through the
[38:44] roof.
>> It's the sewer. So if you're going to
[38:46] pressure wash your house and you're
going to be still charged sewer rates,
[38:50] that is not fair. That is not right.
>> I agree. But
[38:55] » how many how many problems have you had
with that with the citizens? I mean,
[39:00] they come down and say, "I did this or I
filled the pool up or something."
[39:04] » You just said, "Well, we don't solve
it." And it was handled.
[39:07] » Exactly.
>> Miss Wells handled it that way.
[39:10] » She sure did.
>> Huh?
[39:12] » Miss Wells cut it out. She cut out.
>> Have you checked Have you checked with
[39:17] what? And I think there is a solution
that we can do to do something. I mean,
[39:23] give the people
>> if they want to clean their houses
[39:27] though, that only makes both sense.
>> And if you can't pressure wash your
[39:30] house and your house get all dirty, then
you're ready to run and send somebody up
[39:33] there to condemn it or something. People
want their property looking nice. We
[39:37] want our town looking nice.
>> Yes, we do.
[39:39] » So, the original suggestion still plays.
The only difference is If you want to do
[39:43] it on a weekend, public works would go
out on Friday and read on Monday. And
[39:49] then you would take the difference in
the average from an average weekend
[39:54] prior to that and subtract that
difference out. And then that'll give
[39:58] you your amount. Instead of doing it for
a singular day, you just have to upsize
[40:04] it for a Monday and a Friday.
>> I think that could work.
[40:08] » You're just creating more work for the
girls and dogs. They're they're I
[40:12] understand the job they're busier and
rascal to begin with.
[40:15] » Yeah.
>> So you create create more like five
[40:20] bills
>> and just kind of do the adjustments that
[40:24] way.
>> I guess so. Again, this was just brought
[40:27] forward because I wanted clarification
on what you wanted to see for the
[40:31] calculation or how to handle it moving
forward and then we'll implement the
[40:34] policy. I just wanted to know before I
drafted an ordinance and that we have to
[40:38] change it. a mayor. I may please. Uh I
contacted three, four or five
[40:46] have a phone book u housewashing people
and asked them if they when they you
[40:52] know there's no certain thing cuz every
house is different but you know you got
[40:55] an average of 1500 2,000 square foot
house
[41:00] one story or two
and most of them said between 3 to 500
[41:05] gallon some's less occasionally it might
be a little more but but that falls
[41:10] pretty much in the thing. He said now
that the washing now is just not a spray
[41:16] with a hard nozzle and spray wash and
stuff because that'll do so much damage.
[41:21] He said most of all the things gone to a
soft wash deal which uses probably less
[41:27] water and and type on it. So, and he
said, one of them said, "Well, my wife,
[41:34] if I use too much of water, said she
tells me water bills gone crazy." He
[41:38] said, "I got two tanks. One's 100, one's
a 300 gallon." And so, most time I only
[41:43] come I fill back at the house. And so,
most time it's u only once or twice a
[41:48] week that I actually had to use a water
from the house, you know, to fill ours
[41:52] up. So yeah, I think you know if you
want to take an average
[41:58] water thing and tell them if they
get a credit for so many gallons, if it
[42:04] goes over their uh limit. So as long as
in my case I don't use a lot of water.
[42:10] So if I don't go over the 2,000 gallons,
then I wouldn't get any limit. But if
[42:15] I'm over 2,000 gallon, my limit for the
thing and use 2,300 gallon, I get 300
[42:21] gallon limit. So I go back to the
original thing. If I use 3,000 gallons
[42:26] and then I still get 300 gallons off the
thing or 400 or 500, whatever you sign,
[42:33] but I mean that was a thing. And
everyone everybody I talked to was into
[42:37] commercial house wash and they pretty
much said that was the point, you know,
[42:43] because sometimes homeowners would, you
know, just run a hose and just leave the
[42:47] hose laying in the yard while they're
doing it, you know, and and and use a
[42:52] lot of water. And then some good bad
persons doing washing, they bring a
[42:57] 500gallon tank empty. They fill it up,
wash your house, and then fill it up
[43:02] again before they leave, you know,
>> and that had to be one time. So the guy
[43:07] probably used 600 6 700 gallon, which
normally probably use 300 gallon. You
[43:11] know,
>> I would be comfortable with an allowance
[43:14] of 500 gallons.
>> I'm right there with you. I mean, once
[43:18] once a year, yes. one time come fill
your form out, you know,
[43:24] put a gallon number on it, but that'll
that'll save the that'll save the girls
[43:27] in my office and it'll save public work
and no math.
[43:31] » And no math
>> and I created wonderful spreadsheets to
[43:35] calculate the adjustments. Well,
[laughter]
[43:38] well, I think this is even better than a
calculation, but we just all agree.
[43:43] » 500 gallons
>> and they've got 500 gallons cuz a lot of
[43:49] people like to do their sidewalks as
well. So,
[43:52] » I did my driveway.
>> Your driveway.
[43:56] » I have concrete.
>> Yeah. I mean, I used to do my driveway.
[44:00] And it's pretty driveway.
>> We don't even wash our car.
[44:05] » We need to write it up. I mean,
>> I'm I'm honorable. I mean, this is just
[44:12] for the citizens,
>> but I think we need to make it the
[44:15] easiest we can.
>> Yes.
[44:17] » On public works in administration.
>> I do too. Agreed.
[44:20] » Let's not set any more work on the uh
women in the office
[44:24] » or for the people for public works.
>> Yes.
[44:27] » We can set the amount 500 gallons and go
with it.
[44:34] » Okay. We need to make a motion to remove
that since we're not doing action.
[44:41] » Does it not have action?
>> It has action on here.
[44:45] » Yeah. I make a motion to propose
allowing 500 gallons of water for the
[44:52] residents of Love City for pressure
washing credit on the utility bill.
[44:58] » We would need to do an ordinance.
>> Yeah. So, I'm so I'm taking minutes and
[45:03] and notes. So, I drafted all that. I'll
have I'll work with uh Mr. Fry and Sarah
[45:10] to draft an ordinance for you guys. We
can discuss it at the um the work
[45:15] session at the end of the month for a
vote on
[45:17] » good
>> in August.
[45:19] » Can I say something, Vice Mayor? Also, I
guess before people uh pressure wash,
[45:24] they need to kind of let you know when
they get ready to do it or
[45:28] » if they want to grant it, they're going
to
[45:30] » fill out a form for it.
>> So, just like with filling their pool,
[45:34] they can notify us after
>> afterwards. Yeah. Just to let you know,
[45:39] I believe in keeping receipts. Do you
need a video or pictures or anything
[45:43] like that?
>> No, because we'll be able to see on
[45:47] their bill if there was a spike or not.
And then so what we typically do is with
[45:51] these adjustment requests, including
even fixing leaks, we wait another month
[45:55] to make sure the bill has come back down
and that this they didn't ask for, you
[45:59] know, oh, we fixed the leak and then it
wasn't really a fixed leak. They they
[46:03] just are running high. So very good.
>> Now, this wouldn't
[46:11] [laughter]
>> uh this would be an adjustment on the
[46:14] water and the sewer.
>> No, just
[46:16] » No, just the water.
>> Just water. No, just sewer.
[46:19] » Oh, just sewer. I'm sorry. Sewer. I said
it backwards
[46:25] » to where they wouldn't have to pay for
sewer because it doesn't go into the
[46:28] sewer.
>> Do we have a motion to table this item
[46:33] on the agenda?
>> Make a motion to remove it.
[46:37] » You have a second.
>> I'll second it.
[46:40] » Get a vote.
>> All right. Alderwoman Payne.
[46:43] » Yes.
>> Alderman [clears throat] Balone.
[46:45] » Yes.
>> Alderwoman Keith. Yes.
[46:48] » Vice Mayor Adams.
>> Yes.
[46:49] » Alderman Johnson.
>> Yes.
[46:51] » All right.
>> All right. Next item on the agenda is
[46:55] the report for the town attorney. Mr.
>> Alderman Malone, I'm going to answer
[46:59] your question. You asked it last month.
I've got the uh delinquent tax list and
[47:04] it's a little over $72,000
>> from last year's.
[47:08] » Last year's
[47:14] report.
>> All right.
[47:18] our town manager, if you want to go over
your reports, tell us what's next.
[47:22] » Sure. Um,
pull up my reports now.
[47:31] So, budget and strategic planning. In a
recent email, um, I mentioned to you
[47:35] that one item was mistributed by the
former mayor. Um, that was found
[47:40] yesterday afternoon as I was working
with chief on um, his budget, his
[47:44] portion of the budget. he actually came
into my office to strike down, I believe
[47:48] we cut out an additional $80,000 from
the police budget and that's when we
[47:52] realized what was happening. Um, and I
wanted to be fully transparent with you
[47:56] when I had that finding. Um, however,
that also makes me question a lot more
[48:01] with our budget obviously and that's why
I'm looking forward to the audit for the
[48:05] pre- audit to come in uh for them to
close the books and have a look at
[48:08] everything. However, that also means
that from this point forward, um, our
[48:14] public work, Mr. Moltry and Chief and I
have all agreed. We already wanted to
[48:18] have more of an understanding of what
was being attributed to what class line
[48:23] because it kind of they made
recommendations, but I noticed some
[48:26] things weren't quite lining up. We are
going to very diligently
[48:31] track every single item that goes out of
our coffers to make sure that it is
[48:36] attributed to the correct class line.
Well, we want that as well.
[48:39] » Well, right and that's what we want to
present to you. I know that has not been
[48:43] presented to you in the past and that is
something I want to give you guys. Um,
[48:47] it might be there might be a bit of a
delay, you know, by a month or so when
[48:50] we do that, but it's to make sure that
you guys are fully aware and it was
[48:54] actually recommended by the auditors
that we do something similar to this and
[48:58] so I want to move forward with that.
It's going to be a little painful, a
[49:02] little stressful, but I think in the
long run it will be better with that.
[49:05] That means the 28 budget, the next
budget is going to be almost a clean
[49:10] slate. We aren't going to be able to
look at the past budgets to make a
[49:13] comparison because we're we're just kind
of going really line by line to make
[49:18] sure everything is in the right line.
Um, and it's again, it's going to be a
[49:23] little bit more diligent, a little more
painful, but I think in the long run, it
[49:26] will set us up for success moving
forward um to have a better idea of
[49:29] where everything is going. But does that
mean that we're going to be waiting on
[49:34] all this or are we going to go ahead and
do the uh redo an ordinance and the
[49:40] appropriations
because we know we've got to get our 20
[49:44] 2026 27 budget completed.
>> Right. So right now I'm going to make it
[49:51] as perfect as possible based on our
workshop discussions.
[49:55] » And then also um based on this finding I
have to move some things around. Like I
[50:00] said, I have to move that payment back
over to the drug fund and take the items
[50:03] that we were going to pay for out of the
drug fund, put them back in the general
[50:06] fund. That is a bit of a swap. Uh, but I
think that, you know, between that and
[50:12] the salary changes that we discussed and
things of that nature, I'm going to get
[50:16] it as perfect as humanly possible,
knowing that there are going to be some
[50:21] some things that may not line up, but I
will bring those to you as we move
[50:25] forward. Like I said, every month will
be in accounting. It might be a month
[50:28] off, but it will be a full accounting
each month.
[50:31] » That means that our 2026 2027 budget is
going to be way off.
[50:37] » It may be off. Yes.
>> Okay. Well,
[50:39] » um, and I do want to prepare you for
that.
[50:41] » I mean, it's going to take a long time
to get it approved. Is the Tennessee
[50:46] controllers's office okay with that?
>> Well, no. I so like I said I'm going to
[50:50] get it as perfect as I can for you based
on the knowledge that I have but as we
[50:54] go through the budget year I will have
to bring to you possibly some changes to
[51:00] the budget
>> for the appropriations if we do through
[51:02] the okay that's fine
>> y um so I just want to prepare you for
[51:07] that because realizing now if we found
that one item I think that's the tip of
[51:12] the iceberg
>> I think that would be
[51:14] » everything has to be a comment for
>> oh what's that Everything has to be
[51:19] account. Well, you just lose my
>> Oh, yeah.
[51:22] » Yeah. Everything is accounted. Yes. It's
just whether it's in the correct class
[51:25] line. Yes. That So, to be clear, no, I
don't believe there was any stealing of
[51:30] funds. I do not believe anything like
that. I think they were just put in the
[51:33] wrong class lines and put in the wrong
areas. That's 100% what I mean.
[51:38] » Yes.
>> Okay. I just want to make that very
[51:40] clear. I am not making any accusations.
Oh, but there was but there was
[51:44] something I noticed in your project list
and I hate to jump here, but it does go
[51:49] to what you were talking about for the
August. We give our employees their
[51:55] raises in August, but I read something
in there today that it wouldn't be until
[52:00] April.
>> No, we can go over that later when I go
[52:04] through that part of the project list,
but we discussed this at the work
[52:07] session.
>> Yeah, we did. But but we didn't I I know
[52:10] I didn't agree or even give a nod that
it would be okay to move it to April.
[52:17] They need to be getting their money in
August. Period.
[52:20] » Right. I'll go over that portion because
that that's not I I think there was a
[52:25] miscommunication there. I miss Yeah.
>> Okay. Well, we we cleared that.
[52:31] » Okay. So, um
[52:35] let me see.
As stated in the budget in the budget
[52:39] work session, uh there are a number of
post-it notes on my wall to address our
[52:42] maintenance plan. We have a maintenance
plan that needs to roll into a strategic
[52:45] plan because we have items like to
meters, sewer pumps, pavement, um the
[52:50] pavement plan, of water tank issues,
vaccines for public works, like all of
[52:54] those are on a measured time frame that
they need to be addressed. And I want to
[53:00] make sure that as we move forward with
strategic plans and maintenance plans
[53:03] that we are accounting for those that we
we are ready for them when they come up.
[53:07] Um and not that it's a sudden it's a
sudden hit. Um I'm also working on
[53:12] emergency plans with Bristol Bluff City
and the city of Bristol because we
[53:16] utilize their services and we found out
from this storm this weekend that we
[53:21] weren't the only ones that went out.
they also went out and when they went
[53:25] out we were feeling some pain from it in
our systems and so we need to make sure
[53:30] moving forward that we have a plan in
place with them. Um but again that's
[53:34] going to be part of a strategic plan in
in the future.
[53:37] » What about generators?
>> That's part of what to be addressed in
[53:41] the strategic plan.
>> Okay.
[53:44] » Um trainings in the employee handbook.
We already went over that. Uh some of
[53:49] these uh trainings that we had included
bullying, harassment, and driving
[53:53] safety. Those were recommendations by PE
partners. They were online classes. The
[53:58] public works employees came in, utilized
our computers while our staff was
[54:02] learning how to use the new business
license software around one other
[54:05] computer. Um also, you received a copy
of our cyber security policy and we'll
[54:10] be able to then start training on cyber
security practices as well.
[54:16] our Bluff City consumer confidence
report. You'll see on the table here, we
[54:19] have our water uh our water quality
report that was submitted on June 5th, I
[54:26] think, and it's usually uh due June
30th. So, we were happy to get that out
[54:31] weeks early off our plates on, you know,
on the good with TEK job postings. So,
[54:38] our finance officer posting has yielded
just seven results, but only but and and
[54:43] one already withdrew because of the pay
requirements. And it's not like it was
[54:47] slightly off where I could have possibly
begged and bartered. It it was a
[54:51] significant pay difference. Um, so I'm
working on steps between internal
[54:55] training. We have some people trained
some internal people trained on cutting
[55:00] checks to help us with that and but I am
telling them class lines. You know, we
[55:04] are we are working on how to make sure
that is a
[55:08] a checking balance within our our system
and then also that CPA firm coming in. I
[55:14] believe that we have a good handle on
the situation. Um also the public works
[55:18] labor general laborer position is
currently on hold during due to the
[55:22] water treatment plant operator position
that we discussed before. Uh that is
[55:27] something that needs to happen. We are
being dinged on it on the sewer survey
[55:32] or on the sanitation survey. And while
we've been dinged on it years and years,
[55:37] we are finally coming to a point where
they are going to give us a deadline.
[55:40] They are going to give us a time frame.
We don't know what it is yet. They
[55:43] haven't submitted their report, but they
did give us that fair warning. So, I
[55:46] want to make sure we start posting that
job as soon as possible to get that in
[55:50] there. So,
>> but that possibly be next year.
[55:54] » I mean, if they tell us we have to hire
one within six months, but we really do
[55:57] need one now. Uh, you know, Allan, Mr.
Moltry is is doing a lot of the work up
[56:04] there right now and we need to free him
up to be able to do his other work and
[56:10] overseeing other projects throughout
town. This is taking two positions that
[56:14] otherwise are unfilled and making
[clears throat] it one position. It
[56:17] saves on benefits. It saves on um on
training and things like that. Saves on
[56:23] uniforms. Saves Plus it lightens the
load for Mr. Moltry. lightens load for
[56:28] myself because that water report should
have been done by the water treatment
[56:32] plant operator, but it was Mr. Moltry
and I doing it. So, you know, things
[56:35] like that. It has a larger rather than
just the water
[56:39] » on that one. I also do not think you're
going to I think you're going to find
[56:43] that you're not going to get a water
treatment plant operator for the price
[56:48] that you have in mind.
>> All I can do is put it out there, see if
[56:52] it works, and if it doesn't, I come back
to the board for an increase in that
[56:55] salary. Um, but I need to start posting
it now to see what I can get.
[57:03] Then smoking at the ball fields. I
updated you on the bi-weekly reports.
[57:08] Um, TVA reached out to us about a
complaint and because it is federal land
[57:12] that TVA leases out to us. We do have to
follow TBA rules regarding smoking in
[57:17] the ball fields. They it has to be
enforced. Now, that's not Wells Park.
[57:22] It's just the ball fields. Um, and so
they we are working with them. They are
[57:27] going to try to get us some signage to
put up there regarding TVA rules so that
[57:30] we can we can further point point that
out.
[57:35] As for our monthly reports, um, the
police department issued 164 citations,
[57:41] 64 warnings, 34 and uh had 34 arrests.
We had zero DUIs for the month of June.
[57:50] And then we also only had 23 accidents.
[57:56] Uh you will also notice, sorry I I'm
thinking back, we also held the DUI
[58:01] training here uh a few weeks ago and
that was great for you know local law
[58:05] enforcement to come and see our facility
but also you know again providing a
[58:09] service to the larger group. It larger
community. It's really nice to see that
[58:14] we're able to do that and and help out
in general. Um, and it just it's just
[58:18] nice to to be a part of that.
>> Our public Oh, I'm sorry.
[58:23] » I just had a question here.
>> Sure.
[58:24] » Our scientations were down.
>> Yes.
[58:28] » Half almost from 300 to 164.
>> Was that because had one less patrolman?
[58:33] » Well, we actually had surgery.
>> Yeah. Sorry. Surgery. We actually had
[58:38] two out. We had one that's had some
surgery and we had one that's had left.
[58:44] My thought was just everybody abiding by
the law. Yeah,
[58:50] » I want to live in that world.
>> How naive are you down there? It has
[58:54] been down for the last few months. I I
I've noticed that.
[58:58] » Yeah, we've had
>> You got to get back on that.
[59:00] » Yeah, I just don't want to live cuz I
want to ride 150 tickets. [laughter]
[59:08] » Jim Watson.
>> Yeah.
[59:13] » [laughter]
>> I have to get my grip.
[59:16] » Careful. We're very close to having
quotas. [laughter]
[59:20] » Let's not go much there.
>> But uh let's not go much further.
[59:27] » Okay.
>> Conspiracy theorist will be down here
[59:28] with foil hats.
>> Oh, I'm joking. These people better make
[59:33] a joke every now and then. So, our
public works department today as part of
[59:37] that EPA technical assistance grant, uh,
Walpert is down here conducting GIS
[59:42] mapping of our storm water, you know,
doing additional mapping of our storm
[59:46] water. They believe that they will have
that all completed by August and then
[59:52] they will have a development plan of
alternatives. That's what it's called,
[59:55] but it's really their suggestions and
recommendations for all of our systems,
[59:59] sewer and wastewater or storm water. Um,
they should have those in October.
[1:00:06] Um, our water treatment plant pumped out
an average of 239,000 gallons per day.
[1:00:12] The average tank level was 40 almost 46
feet and the maximum level was about 53
[1:00:19] and 1/2 ft. We have the contracted work
happening at the water treatment plant.
[1:00:23] We have Morin Craig here tonight to kind
of give you more updates on that. And we
[1:00:29] we anticipate a scheduled shutdown to
begin in two weeks because the water has
[1:00:34] to be offline. So, we'll be direct
buying directly from Bristol Blood City.
[1:00:37] Um, it we know it'll cause an increase,
but at the same time, it's necessary so
[1:00:42] that they can they can make those
upgrades that are needed out of the
[1:00:46] plant.
Our distribution system had six water
[1:00:49] leaks during the month. Um, four of
which were lateral line leaks and two
[1:00:53] were at the corporation stops.
And so, if you also see our our crews
[1:00:59] had to go out because it's never just a
water leak, right? they have to go out
[1:01:02] do make the fix to the water leak, but
then also sometimes that includes
[1:01:06] tearing up a road. So then they have to
refill the road and it's never just a a
[1:01:12] water leak.
So then we have our sewer system. So for
[1:01:18] the month of June, we did not have any
overflows, but I will be open with you
[1:01:23] that we did have one last this past
weekend because again that was
[1:01:28] a list of issues that had all the the
red buttons went off at once. So not
[1:01:34] only did we not have we didn't have
power to our pumps. So yes, the
[1:01:39] generators did great. However, Bristol
was also down. So we are not sure that
[1:01:45] even if we were pumping if they
pumping as well to take on our stuff.
[1:01:51] That that's why I want to work on an
emergency plan with them because when I
[1:01:56] found that out, I immediately emailed
Crystal and went, "We need to talk about
[1:02:00] this because even if our system is
working and theirs isn't,
[1:02:05] » it doesn't do any good."
>> Then they would need a generator.
[1:02:08] » Well, right. And that's what I want to
make sure that we are all on the same
[1:02:12] page with an emergency plan. Um but even
so again this entire area I think
[1:02:17] everyone saw power went out everywhere
>> every everywhere. Um and it wasn't just
[1:02:24] a flicker and then it went out. It just
>> shut off and so also with Bristol Bluff
[1:02:28] City their water they had trouble
getting water out as well and we were
[1:02:34] unable to purchase any water from them
for a bit. Did we need to
[1:02:38] » we got we got low in our tank but it not
to the point of notifying needing to
[1:02:43] notify people to boil water or anything
to of that nature but it was low and it
[1:02:47] was
>> as it hit about um in the 20s the the
[1:02:54] tank hit the somewhere in the 20s is
when it started we were able to start
[1:02:57] buying again. I was texting Alan in the
moment as the water started to come back
[1:03:02] up thankfully. But again, reaching out
to Bristol Blood City to get an
[1:03:06] emergency plan in place because if their
system their system fried out as well
[1:03:12] that impacts us that impacts our town.
So I want to make sure that we are that
[1:03:17] we have a plan in place beyond just hey
guys boil your water. Bristol does I
[1:03:24] mean like I say you might have fried out
or could have been a malfunction stuff
[1:03:29] » but they do have a generator at this
thing here because when they put it in
[1:03:33] years ago like it test it every Friday
it would come on
[1:03:37] » and people would come fire department
said there's black smoke coming down the
[1:03:40] building down there and the fire
department go down there and there was a
[1:03:43] generator going through the cycle. So
after about 10 or 12 calls and we quit
[1:03:48] going down checking out the generator
but so [laughter] so we got word out but
[1:03:52] they do did have a generator in that
building.
[1:03:54] » Yeah. Now will the generators be placed
in into in such a manner
[1:04:00] » by maybe a company that knows what
they're doing where it automatically
[1:04:05] kicks on the generator kicks on.
>> Yeah. Yep. So that's one of those where
[1:04:10] we would because that is you know that
just happened. We're going to start
[1:04:15] pricing that out. Again, part of the
strategic plan, the maintenance plan,
[1:04:18] and capital asset. Okay.
>> Okay.
[1:04:24] Um,
let's see the streets department. Uh, I
[1:04:29] updated you in the bi-weekly report. We
met with Summers Taylor. We did a tour
[1:04:33] of Bluff City. The gentleman said that
he was born and raised and still lives
[1:04:36] in Elizabethton, and he had never been
to downtown Bluff City before, so it was
[1:04:40] very exciting for him. Um, but we drove
around he saw some roads that he, you
[1:04:46] know, thinks are pretty easy to work
with. We showed him the the priority
[1:04:49] roads that we want to work on. And so,
as we are now part of the project is for
[1:04:55] me to go around or us to go around and
measure out all of the streets to make
[1:04:59] sure we can give them uh some numbers so
that we can get an actual good estimate.
[1:05:05] But the plan, the initial thought on the
plan is the roads that are already the
[1:05:10] the the water, sewer, storm water lines
are all fixed, all ready to go. Focus on
[1:05:15] those first and then while they're
working on those, we work on our lines
[1:05:19] on other priority roads and then they
come in behind us and repave and just
[1:05:23] kind of continue some of that process.
Um, but we we need to know what that
[1:05:28] would look like dollar-wise before we go
and
[1:05:30] » it's going to be a lot of dollars.
>> It will.
[1:05:34] We need it.
>> We need it. Yes.
[1:05:36] » I mean, every time we post something on
Facebook page, our town of Glass City
[1:05:41] Facebook page, I don't know if you all
read them or not, but it's always water
[1:05:46] and sewer. I mean, is it always our
roads?
[1:05:49] » Yep. They do not like it.
>> Um, so then also our parks department. I
[1:05:56] have worked on the forms for people to
use Wells Park and that's because uh you
[1:06:03] know we need to make sure a that they're
not holding as harmless for or uh
[1:06:08] holding let me rephrase there's a whole
harmless agreement for them that if they
[1:06:14] injure themselves down at Wells Park
that they can't come after us but that
[1:06:17] also they agree to certain things such
as cleaning up your confetti afterwards
[1:06:21] and and if you don't we will you know
have to not allow you to rent again or
[1:06:26] something of that nature. Um, but I do
want to make you guys aware that that
[1:06:30] form is complete. I'll send it out for
you for us to for you to agree to before
[1:06:34] I start implementing it. But I would
like to implement it starting August 1.
[1:06:40] Uh, vehicles, our public works trucks
travel 2,000 miles. Uh the two trucks
[1:06:45] that were ordered are due to arrive in
August, which will lead to a mileage
[1:06:49] increase, but uh hopefully overall
um it it will be great for our team
[1:06:55] because, you know, right now it's
running a little rough for them with
[1:06:59] trucks.
[1:07:02] Um onto our administrative department,
the general fund is at 2.9 million. The
[1:07:08] sanitation fund is 65,000. special
police fund which is the item that we
[1:07:12] discussed earlier um that is at 17,000
the debt service fund is 112,000 sinking
[1:07:19] fund is 3,000 and the water sewer is at
359 thou 359,000
[1:07:24] that um I did mention that
uh first Tennessee has submitted
[1:07:30] requests for reimbursements on some of
those federal grants we are due to
[1:07:33] receive some of those back however
because the federal fiscal year ends
[1:07:37] September 30th I would anticipate most
of those payments will start to come
[1:07:41] through in August and September because
they're closing out their books before
[1:07:45] you know everything um their new fiscal
year starts. Um and then also oh
[1:07:52] so also our team is working on
developing new internal policies and
[1:07:56] procedures and I just want to give you a
highlight of some of those. For example,
[1:08:02] we're keeping up to make sure that we
are up to date our employee files. I
[1:08:06] notice some items are missing from some
employee files. small things, W4s, you
[1:08:11] know, their their exemptions, that sort
of thing. But I want to make sure we
[1:08:13] have that all and that we're in full
compliance with any audit that may come
[1:08:17] up. Um, and then also discussing, I said
that we are working on the fund lines,
[1:08:24] fund lines, um, for the police
department and public works. We have
[1:08:29] gone through and create and drafted them
out for our guys to hold on to. So that
[1:08:34] way when they then
[1:08:38] do a purchase accounting form, they are
giving the class line that each item
[1:08:42] belongs to. So they are the ones working
within their budget. They are the ones
[1:08:46] telling us where it needs to be
attributed to. Um because they know
[1:08:50] better than I would know. I can see a
coupling and go, I I don't know if
[1:08:54] that's water, if that's sewer, if that's
a truck. I don't I don't know what that
[1:08:57] is. So they're the ones who will be
doing that for for me. Um,
[1:09:04] also as we move forward, you know, this
has been my first year here. It's been a
[1:09:09] lot. It's learning what needs to come up
next. And then, oh, we should have done
[1:09:12] that, you know, a month ago. I am
starting to create a calendar with the
[1:09:17] dates for this is just 2026, but as we
move forward, I'm adding the dates the
[1:09:23] 2027 calendar, so I know that I can
reverse engineer, backtrack, and and
[1:09:27] know what start dates I need to work on.
Um, so for example, the PE partners that
[1:09:32] safety grant that's opened up. I've
started working on that that but that I
[1:09:37] added it to the 2027 calendar as well so
that way we can I can make sure to look
[1:09:41] out for it for next year. So these are
small things but they're going to make
[1:09:46] us more efficient moving forward. It's
just I it's it's a lot to take in and a
[1:09:51] lot to move forward with. So I thank you
for your patience as you deal with me.
[1:09:57] I'm trying to figure this all out in my
first year here. Um, as for our projects
[1:10:03] list,
[1:10:09] » there it is. Okay. So, you did want
updates on the consent order regarding
[1:10:13] the item.
>> I do. Yes.
[1:10:15] » Yep.
>> And and as well as the garage fun
[1:10:18] station because they did get that notice
of violation against them up there as
[1:10:22] well,
>> right? Um, so I'm working with Allan on
[1:10:25] that information. But as for the sewer
project across the street, the team did
[1:10:29] start digging to get the sewer line
replaced. However, I did send you photos
[1:10:33] of the roots that were there. They were
very large. Um, and unfortunately very
[1:10:38] alive. And so the moment that chainsaw
hit it, it just gums up. It stops. It
[1:10:43] doesn't do anything. So our guys had to
rent uh larger equipment. However, also
[1:10:47] looking at it, they realized that
manhole, and I know Austin can speak
[1:10:51] more to this, but the manhole looked
like it was handmade.
[1:10:56] In what year, we do not know. So, with
that, we had to buy a pre-cast one
[1:11:01] because the the
a pre-cast one is, you know, a pretty
[1:11:06] standard one, right? But this pre-made
this handmade one was not up to
[1:11:11] standards. So, we just went ahead and
ordered a new one. But because that
[1:11:16] takes a few weeks for them to cast and
bring in, we put a small pause on the
[1:11:20] project. Because as Allan wanted to do
the lines and then the manhole and he's
[1:11:26] realizing with that root intrusion, he
needs to reverse those. So he needs to
[1:11:30] do the manhole and then lay the new
line, the new piping to fit to the
[1:11:34] manhole.
[1:11:39] » Yes. Thank you. I was like, I know it
begins with Yes.
[1:11:46] Um, so but public works, they still have
faith in their staff to be able to get
[1:11:50] this done. It's just going to be smaller
portions. It's going to be a little bit
[1:11:54] longer. But these guys collectively have
the experience to do it. It they just
[1:11:58] haven't done it at this scale before.
Um, and so Allan is really confident
[1:12:03] that his team can do it even if they
have reservations because you know with
[1:12:07] any new project you you can get a little
nervous. So, uh, but he he is full faith
[1:12:11] in his team.
Um, we have our water meter upgrades.
[1:12:16] We are currently in the need, we need to
purchase about another 120. We have 32
[1:12:22] that will be focused on repeated
needs. Uh, you know, every month we read
[1:12:28] our meters. Sometimes we have to reread
the meters. The ones that are coming up
[1:12:31] every month, month after month that we
have to reread, those are the ones we're
[1:12:35] going to focus these new meters on. And
then we will start focusing on ones that
[1:12:40] are are fine. um but just need to be
upgraded.
[1:12:46] Our boardwalk and pavilion again those
have been that has been um
[1:12:50] [clears throat]
[1:12:54] some of the projects have been kind of
put on the back burner because they are
[1:12:57] busy working on other projects around
town. However, if we could get the parks
[1:13:02] and recreation committee going, that
would be wonderful because then they can
[1:13:05] start coordinating volunteer events and
we have the waiver for our volunteers um
[1:13:10] to be able to go in and do some work
over there. [snorts]
[1:13:14] Our public works reorganization after
budget discussions, a reorganization
[1:13:18] will move forward. Oh, she
Well, I'll come back to that one because
[1:13:23] I was going to discuss some of the the
performance reviews.
[1:13:28] um the public works gate. It was
mentioned at the budget workshop that I
[1:13:32] reach out to btees about getting a new
meter down at the actual gate um to to
[1:13:38] get that get power to the gate so it
it's no longer just open and close
[1:13:42] manual. Um and BTE I I've already
reached out to them. They're going to go
[1:13:47] out and look at it to see what can be
done. So I'll give you an update on that
[1:13:51] when it comes out. Paving already
discussed. I'm working on street
[1:13:55] measurements. If you see a crazy woman
walking around with a little measuring
[1:13:58] wheel, that's just me boppinging along
getting my steps in for the day. Um,
[1:14:03] salt shed that has been put on pause
because again,
[1:14:07] staff is working on other projects right
now, but it is agreed that they will get
[1:14:10] back to it in the fall.
[1:14:17] Um, so on the administrative side, we
have a coordinated workspace platform
[1:14:22] that has been worked into the budget
this year. part of that, you know, as I
[1:14:28] work with Chief and Allen on our budget
items, those real detailed line items,
[1:14:33] rather than sending a spreadsheet back
and forth, it would be better to have it
[1:14:36] kind of, you know, in the cloud so we
can all access it and also other forms,
[1:14:41] other policies, other procedures for
people so that we don't have to print
[1:14:44] everything off. It can be up there. They
can just read it. Um so I want to bounce
[1:14:49] back to the public works reorganization
[1:14:53] after the budget discussions
reorganization will move forward the
[1:14:57] August performance reviews. We will be
having August performance reviews. So,
[1:15:01] it was my understanding with the with
the budget discussion was that everyone
[1:15:06] and and please correct me if I'm wrong,
is that everyone would get the 3% base
[1:15:13] increase this year just because it's
easy for the budget, but then in April
[1:15:18] they will have another performance
review and that's where this comes into
[1:15:21] play where that will be more of the
merit-based
[1:15:25] review and the pay increase will be
subject to board approval.
[1:15:31] starting July 1 in the next budget. So
that way it gives you guys a more solid
[1:15:36] number for salary um for that next
budget. With that, we are also handing
[1:15:44] we're we're going to utilize the August
review, the one next month to our
[1:15:48] advantage to say this is your job
description. This is what I expect to
[1:15:52] see out of you come April. Because I
think some of these guys, they haven't
[1:15:55] seen their job description since they
were first hired 10 years ago. So going
[1:15:59] that back over that with them at the
performance review say this is what I
[1:16:04] expect out of you come April
and then that's where the
[1:16:08] performancebased review will happen and
then every year from there on it will be
[1:16:11] in April so that we can again account
for those merit-based increases in the
[1:16:16] next budget.
>> So what kind of a raise will they then
[1:16:19] turn around and get in April?
>> Well it won't be until July. The actual
[1:16:24] dollar amount won't be until July, but
it will be subject to board approval
[1:16:28] with the budget.
>> But the mean that would mean we have
[1:16:33] done the budget then for 28.
>> Okay. Go.
[1:16:37] » Yep. So that way it gives you guys a
better idea of salary.
[1:16:41] » You have a couple of months before we
>> I like that idea. I do like that idea.
[1:16:45] » Yep. And I think I think it's it's
better for employees to have that merit
[1:16:48] base, too. Um it it's an incentive. Um,
but it everyone will still get an
[1:16:53] increase. It's just a matter of how
much.
[1:16:54] » I vacasillate on that.
It causes me to lose sleep over that
[1:17:00] because Oh, you could be going down a a
whale on that one.
[1:17:07] So,
>> and you do the evaluations?
[1:17:10] » Well, the directors will be doing the
evaluations.
[1:17:13] » How about the ones that work at the
pleasure of the board?
[1:17:16] » You do my evaluations.
>> Okay. because we've never had before. I
[1:17:20] I knew that, but I was
>> Oh, when we did that, we will be
[1:17:25] evaluating you in office,
>> I believe. So, I do not
[1:17:29] » Well, she's not the only one that works.
>> All right. Well, when they
[1:17:34] » So, what I can do is um I can work with
you on that process as well and possibly
[1:17:38] I do the review because I work with them
dayto day, but then I bring it to you.
[1:17:42] » Okay.
>> Um so that you can you can also see.
[1:17:45] » Okay.
>> Will we get everybody job prescriptions
[1:17:49] to work.
>> Yeah, I think that would be a good idea.
[1:17:52] » Good. Good.
>> And we will be doing our evaluation of
[1:17:57] you this time alone, Mr. There's no no
need for Mr. Al to come in.
[1:18:02] » I have no idea to be honest with you.
>> I prefer not to have him come.
[1:18:07] » Okay.
If I may say something, uh,
[1:18:13] I don't know how you feel, but I can
truly say that MEST was there when I had
[1:18:18] nobody here to help me or stand with me.
And, uh, I'm not using this as a cuss
[1:18:24] word, but I mean, I went through I went
through and if I didn't have Mr. Aner
[1:18:29] guidance to help me through, you know,
only God knows if I keep it here today.
[1:18:35] » Good party. But I think that's up to
you. Well, he is he is a good tool, but
[1:18:41] uh also he has been involved and he has
been helping Christo a great deal,
[1:18:49] » but I think it's time now
>> we are ready for this and so we do not
[1:18:54] understand what you're saying.
>> There's other people with tasks that we
[1:18:57] can bring in.
>> So there's other people with impass that
[1:19:00] can it doesn't have to be
>> and I can understand what you're saying
[1:19:04] but let me tell you something. I don't
forget the ones that was there for me.
[1:19:12] » And he was
helped me out on a few occasions.
[1:19:17] » Oh, you for talking to him.
>> He's helped me.
[1:19:21] » Yep.
>> So then also town hall security,
[1:19:25] identification, and time sheets. Uh
again, this has been integrated into the
[1:19:29] next budget. So that way we can get more
security here or better security here.
[1:19:33] Like I said, we can deactivate a badge.
we can't deactivate a key. Um, so I
[1:19:38] would like to have badges for employees
to be able to come in and it will also
[1:19:41] automatically disarm the alarm, you
know, things like that. So it will kind
[1:19:45] of streamline that for for everyone. Uh,
that is also subject to grant partial
[1:19:50] grant reimbursement through PE partners
and that grant opens on July 27th. So I
[1:19:55] will be submitting for that as well or
figuring out how I can I can work that
[1:19:58] to our advantage.
27 budget, we've already had our work
[1:20:02] one works shop. I would like to have
another workshop based on the ED edits
[1:20:07] I'm going to be making. Um, we can
discuss that later. I already discussed
[1:20:12] with you that my calendar that I've
developed, storm emergency and operation
[1:20:16] plans, I mentioned that with the city of
Bristol. Employee manual upgrades, we
[1:20:21] discussed that. Uh, the general
contractor and mechanic needs,
[1:20:26] that one, it's frustrating to be honest
with you. Um, I received multiple
[1:20:31] estimates, but now as we start to look
at it, it's just not it's not feasible
[1:20:36] for some of these. So, I think we I need
to just piece it out and then bring you
[1:20:39] the estimates and then we make a
decision. And I will do that for our
[1:20:42] next for our August board meeting
because it's just we need to get this
[1:20:46] done and I'm I'm tired of it sitting on
my to-do list. So, um you know, Mr.
[1:20:52] Moltry and I did discuss a few items
around here that could be worked on as
[1:20:56] rainy day projects because we do know
some rain is coming up. and they won't
[1:20:59] be able to mow. They won't be able to
work on the project. So, we do have some
[1:21:03] items kind of a honeydew list, so to
speak, for them to come in and work on.
[1:21:09] » And I suggested some items because Wells
Park is not on high priority on that,
[1:21:16] but I provided you I gave you some
there's some things that can be done in
[1:21:22] cooler weather,
>> right? So, I'm talking about actual like
[1:21:25] rainy rainy view.
>> Yeah, it can be inside, but I'm still
[1:21:30] looking further ahead
>> for the fall. Absolutely.
[1:21:34] » Possibly winter time.
>> Yep. So,
[1:21:36] » and I think in the past it's just been a
lot of whack-a-ole with projects and as
[1:21:41] we start to move forward, we can start
actually planning out these projects and
[1:21:44] I'm really excited for that. So, um that
is my report.
[1:21:49] » All right. Before we move much further,
uh, do we have a motion to approve the
[1:21:54] financial report?
>> Make a motion to approve the financial
[1:21:58] approach.
[1:22:03] » Town Manager, may we get a vote?
>> Yes.
[1:22:06] » Uh, Alderwoman Kane,
>> yes. Alderman Malone,
[1:22:10] » yes.
>> Alderwoman Keith,
[1:22:12] » yes.
>> Vice Mayor Adams,
[1:22:13] » yes.
>> And Alderman Johnson,
[1:22:15] » yes.
>> All right.
[1:22:17] » All right. Moving on. report from Selma
County District 5 commissioners. Don't
[1:22:22] see Mr. Glover or Mr. King here. So,
we'll move right on to the board of
[1:22:25] mayor and alderman comment.
>> So, she didn't put on distinguished
[1:22:29] guests, but we do have Mr.
>> Mr. Well, actually, he gives us updates,
[1:22:36] so I don't distinguish guests. Not
really. Welcome back. We have missed
[1:22:41] you.
>> You ready for me now?
[1:22:43] » Sure. Go right ahead.
>> Good deal. Um, so, uh, Chris had asked
[1:22:50] me to come tonight and, um, give some
updates on, um, the ongoing work at the
[1:22:55] water treatment plant and, um, the sewer
project here across the street. Um,
[1:23:00] since she already touched on the sewer
project, I'll start with that one. Um,
[1:23:05] really every everything she said, you
know, is that Alan has sent me shop
[1:23:09] drawings of the the manhole. Um, I guess
he's just awaiting the manhole as as it
[1:23:15] has been ordered. Okay. So just awaiting
the manhole per the consent order,
[1:23:20] corrective action plan and
implementation schedule. That work is
[1:23:23] set to be complete July 24th. If if
that's not doable, let me know and I'll
[1:23:30] contact TEC to let them know that the
schedule [snorts] needs to adjust.
[1:23:34] » Yep, we'll do that.
>> Um
[1:23:37] » and so
>> I'm sorry.
[1:23:43] » Oh,
>> I can look that up. I believe it was
[1:23:45] what, two weeks ago?
>> I was going to say two weeks ago.
[1:23:48] » Okay.
>> Yep.
[1:23:51] » But yeah,
>> that's
[1:23:53] » if that schedule needs to push a little
bit, let me know and I'll I'll inform
[1:23:58] them that, you know, adjustment made to
our implementation schedule.
[1:24:01] » I'd say that'd be a safe bet.
>> Yeah.
[1:24:05] » To push it.
>> We'll check with Allen and confirm
[1:24:09] before
>> I would rather have a date in mind
[1:24:11] before we just say push it. I would like
to have a date. They're going to want to
[1:24:15] know exactly when
when it can be done when uh
[1:24:21] I said they'll be forgiving the first
time, but we need to be sure that we are
[1:24:25] » pretty spot on with the next one.
>> Um
[1:24:29] also, um other items towards that. Um
second notices on the private defect,
[1:24:38] uh the sewer private defect letters,
those those were sent out on the 29th.
[1:24:44] Um so final notices um should uh
schedule should adjust to go out July
[1:24:51] 29th and um that will close out those
two milestones. Um I also am um
[1:24:58] preparing to write the first quarterly
report required of the consent order. I
[1:25:02] think it has to go out next week. July
15th I think is the date on that.
[1:25:08] » Um
yeah
[1:25:11] fairly certain it's next week. I've got
it on my calendar, but first quarterly
[1:25:14] report will be sent out next week. Um,
so if y'all have any questions,
[1:25:20] » I actually have a question for Christa.
Christa, on those letters, you might
[1:25:26] want to explain a little bit more in
detail about the letters,
[1:25:29] » the private defect letters. So, um,
>> you won't smoke it.
[1:25:33] » Uh, so Mor and Craig went and did smoke
testing and where we found defects for
[1:25:39] on private property, we sent letters out
to those indiv to those homeowners to
[1:25:44] make fixes. Uh, and they were to come in
and notify us that they have fixed or
[1:25:48] submit a plan to fix. For example, I
will say this, Mr. Chase across the
[1:25:53] street, because that project across the
street impacts him, he came in, we
[1:25:58] discussed it. I said, "Just send me an
email that says basically once you fix
[1:26:01] your problem, I'll fix mine." So, you
know, we're being flexible in that
[1:26:06] regard because we know that it's not
just I mean I mean can't send much out
[1:26:11] that people don't hear about. So,
I'm not sure if the other board members
[1:26:16] were aware of or not, but they had 60
days
[1:26:20] » to to let us know.
>> Yeah. To let you know
[1:26:23] » and then uh
>> what your intent what their intentions
[1:26:26] were,
>> right? And it didn't have to necessarily
[1:26:28] be fixed within 60 days. It's what
>> delay your Yeah. What's your plan? What
[1:26:32] is your digit?
>> Yep. And some didn't get back to us and
[1:26:35] most did. We only had a couple what?
Four, I think I had to send out.
[1:26:40] » So, it not bad.
>> All right.
[1:26:43] » Yeah. Could you send me those? I don't I
don't
[1:26:46] » Oh, I didn't. Okay. I scanned them. I
just apparently didn't hit send. Okay.
[1:26:50] Yeah.
>> I will I will want to include those in
[1:26:52] the quarterly report. Um, I think you
have to send that they've got sent out,
[1:26:56] but if I have a copy of them, that'd be
great. Um, so I guess any other
[1:27:00] questions involving consent order,
anything?
[1:27:04] » What about the u I guess the survey or
the maps and stuff of all the water
[1:27:10] lines and stuff is supposed to
>> last year. Um, so the the funding by the
[1:27:17] funding
those projects are going to let's see
[1:27:23] there's there's the swig funding and
then there's other pot funding that
[1:27:27] they're off by a year. We're our goal is
to have those wrapped up by the end of
[1:27:33] September. So by the end of September we
hope to have now
[1:27:39] Yes. Yes. By the end of September, we
have to have the GIS mapping done, the
[1:27:44] cur uh the um asset management plan
complete, um capital improvement plan,
[1:27:49] and the rate study. Um the town already
has um a water model. So, some of these
[1:27:55] other municipalities have that as part
of their scope and that can push to the
[1:27:59] next year, but um the plan right now is
to have that stuff complete inclusive of
[1:28:05] the GIS mapping um by the end of
September.
[1:28:09] That's what we're pushing for.
>> Well, that includes some storm water
[1:28:13] drain stuff or is that different?
>> So, that includes the sanitary sewer and
[1:28:18] the water and all the pertinances of
relative to those two systems.
[1:28:24] » Yes. So, EPA
is doing the storm drain.
[1:28:31] » It's very exciting that we're having
this all happen.
[1:28:34] » It is. It is. if it's not a hope and a
promise and a let down.
[1:28:42] » So, uh, anything else regarding that
stuff and we can talk about water
[1:28:46] treatment plan otherwise?
>> Yeah, just go for it.
[1:28:49] » All right. So, um I emailed Jonah with
Eric um after receiving the request for
[1:28:56] my attendance and um kind of asked him
for an updated list of tasks that's been
[1:29:03] complete and a schedule of future um
work planned. And so completed to date,
[1:29:09] he has all major instrumentation, PLC,
valve, analyzer, and control panel
[1:29:15] submittals have been approved. Major
equipment, instrumentation, control
[1:29:19] panels, valves and analyzers, and field
devices have been procured and
[1:29:23] delivered. Electrical roughin at the
treatment plant is substantially
[1:29:28] complete, including conduit, cable tray,
junction boxes, junction boxes, and uh
[1:29:34] preparation for final device
terminations.
[1:29:38] Um instrument mounting location have
been field verified and installation
[1:29:43] layout's been completed and installation
materials staged and then shutdown is
[1:29:50] planning to be uh had been shutdown
planning has been completed um to
[1:29:56] minimize plant downtime. Um he gave me a
sequence to
[1:30:03] um
the shutdown sequence. It goes through a
[1:30:10] fiveweek sequence of
line items here. Um
[1:30:17] I can read them all off or I can just
read
[1:30:19] » clarify it's not going to be down for
five.
[1:30:22] » Yeah. Not consecutively at least to my
knowledge. I I just want before that
[1:30:26] question comes up, it will come down.
>> You saw my job, y'all. [laughter]
[1:30:31] » So, he he's got the schedule um of of
the work conducted within those five
[1:30:37] weeks and then um
the only thing Yeah, there it is. Um
[1:30:45] he's he's got the manual transfer switch
uh for the for the generator noted on
[1:30:50] here. um that equipment did have a
little bit longer lead time than the
[1:30:55] others. So um once once that equipment's
received um
[1:31:00] they'll complete that associated work as
well. Um so his final note here says the
[1:31:05] majority of the remaining work is
concentrated within the planned shutdown
[1:31:09] period and consists of field
installation, electrical integration,
[1:31:14] PLC checkout, startup, commissioning and
operation training. Um, we anticipate
[1:31:20] the work progressing in accordance with
this sequence. So, um, I can forward
[1:31:28] this to you, Kristen. You can distribute
to them if you would like, so they can
[1:31:33] read the shutdown sequence. It's
>> Well, it's two pages long, so
[1:31:39] » I can go through it, but
>> it's all [laughter] right, man.
[1:31:43] » So, just email it.
>> We'll peruse [laughter] it. Thank you.
[1:31:48] Um, but other than that, um, yeah,
that's that's where that one stands. We
[1:31:53] did have that, uh, I can attest to that
rough end meeting. We did have that last
[1:31:56] Thursday with I think it was Thursday
with Heric and Lord company and went
[1:32:01] through and everybody made sure that
they had their margin orders of where
[1:32:05] everything was to go and um,
it's progressing.
[1:32:09] » So, y'all have any questions on that
front?
[1:32:13] » Sounds good. Sounds like we're getting
closer.
[1:32:16] » It's getting there. It's getting there.
>> And you're working hand in hand with
[1:32:19] Allan Street over there.
>> Yes. Yeah. Um Yeah. I've I've reviewed
[1:32:24] the the submittal drawings. Um he's got
our plan.
[1:32:29] So,
[1:32:33] » all righty. Well, there's nothing else
for me.
[1:32:36] » Thanks, ma'am.
>> Thank you guys.
[1:32:38] » All right. Now, we can do the board of
mayor's alderman comments. Um I guess
[1:32:44] I'm on the top of the list, so I'll go
first. Thank you all for coming out.
[1:32:48] I think one good thing about tonight,
you can see a lot of progress, a lot of
[1:32:52] moving forward.
>> Um, and you know, seeing something that
[1:32:56] is planned for to be completed, you
know, almost a month ahead of time. Wow,
[1:33:02] that is so fantastic. So,
>> I think everybody's doing a great job
[1:33:06] and keep up good work. Thank you'all for
being
[1:33:14] » Hello everybody. It's good to see
everybody and u
[1:33:18] thank you for being here and it is truly
a blessing to hear my fellow board
[1:33:24] members with their strong powerful voice
especially standing up and speaking up
[1:33:29] for the people and wanting to do good by
the people. I appreciate that and I'm
[1:33:35] learning not to take anything or
anything for granted and when somebody
[1:33:40] do something good for me you know I
don't ever want to forget. So when you
[1:33:44] was talking about intest Michelle and
Mest was very very instrumental of
[1:33:50] helping me with my transition from mayor
to being able to run as alderwoman. So
[1:33:57] they were really good. So I'm thankful
for test and love city residents. I will
[1:34:05] continue to be a strong honest force for
the people. I'll continue to stand up,
[1:34:10] speak up and speak out for what's right.
if you need just a phone call away.
[1:34:16] Thank you.
[1:34:19] » Thank everybody for coming. I'm glad to
see some progress and everybody going
[1:34:24] forward. Seems like everybody's getting
involved or getting engaged in what's
[1:34:29] going on. Won't know what's happening.
So, appreciate everybody. Thank you.
[1:34:37] I want to thank the people that are
sitting here tonight in the audience and
[1:34:41] a big shout out to those who watch the
videos. So, we have far more of you all
[1:34:47] out there in YouTube land than we have
in the building here. So, and it appears
[1:34:55] as though the meetings are being posted
faster now, which will be which is great
[1:35:01] and greatly appreciated. And hopefully
this year uh we will roll in a new
[1:35:08] system, new audio and video system for
year for the people and instead of
[1:35:15] having to record with the camera over
here. So
[1:35:20] again, thank you and I do want to thank
my fellow board members and thank you
[1:35:24] Mr. Fry. Thank you, Kristen.
I think we we had a good meeting tonight
[1:35:31] and and and I love I really want to get
rid of that project list that that we
[1:35:37] have had for a long time. Be glad to see
that puppy burned when everything on
[1:35:44] there gets taken off of it. So, but I
guess and I'm not going to say slowly
[1:35:49] but surely because I do not have
patience. So, you know, so I know it
[1:35:56] takes time but Sometimes we can move
some of this stuff along.
[1:36:07] » I I do thank everybody for coming. I'd
like to see I'd like to see this room
[1:36:11] packed citizens. I really would,
>> you know, and giving, you know, giving
[1:36:15] us down the road%.
So,
[1:36:18] » um I I've I've watched past videos from
years and years ago, these meetings, and
[1:36:25] you know, Sometimes it's it's almost a
knockdown, dragout fight.
[1:36:31] » And I I've seen I've seen this board
change a little bit over the past year
[1:36:35] and a half and we still disagree on a
lot of things, but you know, we we're
[1:36:42] we're civil about it. You know, we make
our argument and I like seeing that. I
[1:36:47] really do. And that that's the only way
city is going to move forwards is if if
[1:36:52] we agree to disagree, you know, and and
work through it and give her strong
[1:36:57] opinion. Um, Christa, I think I think
you're doing a great job.
[1:37:03] » I think uh, you know, [sighs]
deep breath every once in a while, you
[1:37:08] know, get that option back, but I do I
think I think you're tackling a tough
[1:37:14] situation and believe you're going about
it.
[1:37:20] wasn't built today.
[1:37:26] » Thank you everybody.
[1:37:31] » All right, we're on the old business.
Any old business?
[1:37:37] » All right, now we're on the new
business.
[1:37:40] » Miss B, you got old business?
>> Old business. Business.
[1:37:43] » Go for it.
Kristen, I think I might have mentioned
[1:37:46] it to you, but u only because I love
Christmas parade so good, but have you
[1:37:55] started or or as somebody that in the
office that might would take over
[1:38:01] ordering some of the new stuff that we
need up there on street.
[1:38:05] » So just this morning um I have worked
with one of with the new uh municipal
[1:38:10] clerk that's come on board. She will be
handling most of the purchasing. I still
[1:38:14] have to approve everything, but she will
be doing the research, not just for the
[1:38:18] Christmas parade, but for things for for
town hall, for public works, things like
[1:38:23] that. She's going to be handling that
from now on. Um, again, I still have to
[1:38:28] approve it, but taking that off my plate
of doing the research. Uh, yeah. So,
[1:38:33] yes, we are moving forward with that.
>> And and to research, I said several
[1:38:38] years ago, uh, I wanted a for blessed to
purchase a a tree,
[1:38:47] a Christmas type tree and plant it down
at Wells Park. And this was about four
[1:38:52] or five years ago. And I said, "Now, not
little, not a little 34 a gallon here,
[1:38:58] but something substantial
to where we could actually have tree
[1:39:02] lighting ceremonies down there. Decorate
our Christmas tree down there, a tree
[1:39:07] lighting ceremony, and do that at the
park. And then we that would be like
[1:39:14] maybe one get together that we could
have for the people of L City. And
[1:39:19] possibly that night we'd stand down
there and sing some Christmas songs and
[1:39:27] have hot chocolate and have some cookies
and and
[1:39:33] it and that had been everybody liked
that idea whenever I suggested it was
[1:39:39] standing out there in that audience, but
nobody [laughter] went nobody went out
[1:39:44] there and bought that tray. So, and
right now
[1:39:49] It's a pretty big sucker down there
right now. So, and then we do need some
[1:39:54] decorations on Main Street, down there.
And
[1:39:59] you know, I suggested a great big wreath
and just something plain and simple. And
[1:40:03] the big red boat.
>> Yeah.
[1:40:08] » And no bridge for Santa. Please, please,
please, please, please. Or not on a
[1:40:14] motorcycle. Please, please, please.
Please. What was that?
[1:40:18] » Please, please, please no branch on the
motorcycle
[1:40:22] branch for Santa.
[1:40:26] And I have also suggested that we do
build a Santa house and buy a Santa
[1:40:32] chair and then let the kids line up and
go in, buy a Santa chair, sit on Santa's
[1:40:40] lap,
and
[1:40:44] cut something. That's
for the kids.
[1:40:48] » I want it for the kids.
>> I think right there is a Christmas
[1:40:51] committee chairman.
>> Sounds good.
[1:40:55] » Well, I do love Christmas.
>> I do, too.
[1:40:58] » But this is for the people. I want this
for the people. What did you say down
[1:41:02] there about
>> I did not.
[1:41:05] » I nod [laughter] my head. I nod my head.
>> It had to have been Paul.
[1:41:10] » She's going to help a lot of her stuff
she was trying to get done last week.
[1:41:13] » I know. Now it's trying.
>> Well, that's it people. I mean, and I
[1:41:19] say it now and say you think it's funny
it's July,
[1:41:23] » but if we don't get it done now, it
won't happen.
[1:41:27] » All right. We got any new business?
>> Well, I do. It could be considered old
[1:41:33] is a charter.
>> Yep.
[1:41:36] » We need to work on that charter. If you
don't get anything done, I don't know
[1:41:40] how you would go about it. Maybe, you
know,
[1:41:43] where the mayor or whoever is mayor will
never be able to work as city manager.
[1:41:52] » Keep those separated
>> after.
[1:41:55] » Let's let let's get away from all that.
That will never be able to happen again.
[1:42:01] » After we can work
and like an updating of the charter
[1:42:07] » like once we get the budget done.
>> Yes.
[1:42:10] » And and that we dedicate that we
dedicate ourselves every month on that
[1:42:16] charter until we get it snapped into
place.
[1:42:20] » Do you think that we can go forward with
that anyway? Get that in there that I
[1:42:26] mean
>> we never know elections coming, right?
[1:42:29] » We got some You never know.
>> Yes,
[1:42:32] » things are things are going to change.
We know that and I do believe in a good
[1:42:37] way, but we want it. we are
uh mayor will never be able to work as
[1:42:45] manager. We worked hard to get that in
place.
[1:42:50] » And I think that um it can be done in
chunks to start right section. It can be
[1:42:55] done in large sections, right? Because I
don't think you can tackle the entire
[1:42:58] thing in one work session.
>> Oh goodness. But I think that if you
[1:43:01] work on it in chunks starting the um
the whenever the budget is passed that
[1:43:07] next work
>> we we could even we could even have two
[1:43:11] » I'm sorry
>> two but not
[1:43:13] » yeah let's stop putting back on and make
it happen.
[1:43:18] » Yep.
>> You know that's what's wrong now. We put
[1:43:20] things off and it never happened.
>> Right. We can have it as a standing
[1:43:23] section.
>> Yep. On the work session. Yep.
[1:43:25] » Okay.
But add another one so we can get it
[1:43:29] done. Like two in one month.
Like one week and then the next week.
[1:43:36] » Whatever it takes.
[1:43:40] » We've been trying to get that done for
two years now.
[1:43:44] » Any more new business?
All right, let's move on to the second
[1:43:48] session of public comments. Anybody
willing to come up?
[1:43:52] » Wait a minute. Your voice is not with
you tonight. She ain't got that excuse.
[1:43:54] » Well, you can go up first.
>> [laughter]
[1:43:58] » James Roberts, 231 Lake View Drive. I'll
be quick this evening. Um I just had a
[1:44:03] couple of questions. Um,
town manager, would it be possible for
[1:44:09] us to get uh, we're doing great putting
the agenda out, but would it be possible
[1:44:14] to get like whenever we have a meeting
where we're going to have discussion and
[1:44:17] action with ordinances or discussion and
action on anything that we could get
[1:44:23] some information put like page two, page
three, page 10 of the agenda. I don't
[1:44:28] know if you've gotten the opportunity
since you've been here to go to one of
[1:44:31] our county commissions uh yet. Some some
nights it's five pages, some nights it's
[1:44:37] 50. Don't expect to get that in the
weeds with it, but it would be nice to
[1:44:43] be able to have a little bit of prior
knowledge to make informed public
[1:44:47] comment or to ask questions uh if we
knew what was what was coming.
[1:44:52] » Sure, I can do that. Um, next is is if
the board's going to look at doing the
[1:44:58] uh the credit for the pressure washing,
I think whenever we're prepping for that
[1:45:05] workshop, we should also get a real
cost. Um, if the board's looking at
[1:45:10] since the number was turned around
tonight, I'm giving a credit of 500
[1:45:14] gallons, we need to figure out what that
equates to. And for one house, that's
[1:45:19] probably nothing. but then kind of get
an idea of say 30% of Bluff City washes
[1:45:25] their their house in the month of July.
What is that going to look like in
[1:45:30] actual dollars to the taxpayers here in
Bluff City whenever we uh have to fit
[1:45:36] the bill for that? Um and then my next
question is actually could be you but I
[1:45:42] think it's going to be more catered to
attorney Fry. Um believe we have some
[1:45:47] pending litigation against the city of
Love City. We haven't had any updates on
[1:45:51] that in some time. U I'm curious if you
could give us an update on that and if
[1:45:56] the newly uh discovered um
root structure that's definitely
[1:46:04] impacted our issue across the road. Is
that going to adjust our situation
[1:46:10] favorably at all in this or are we still
looking in a bad situation?
[1:46:14] » I can speak to that. So, we are actually
working working with Heron and McPeek on
[1:46:17] that lawsuit and they have actually
offered to come in and provide an update
[1:46:21] to the board on that. Um, so I can try
to schedule that for the next board
[1:46:24] meeting.
>> Now, is that going to be public or is
[1:46:26] that going to be an executive session?
>> I believe he offered to do it publicly.
[1:46:30] » Uh, it would be up to the attorney and
be up to Mr.
[1:46:34] » I can talk to Mr. McPeek, but he seemed
very open to doing it publicly.
[1:46:38] » Okay, great. Because I, as a taxpayer,
I'd love to kind of know where we're at
[1:46:42] on that. So,
>> is that the one across the road?
[1:46:47] » And that was it. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you, J.
[1:46:53] » I just got one thing. David Har 200.
Could we possibly put a entrance
[1:47:01] sign down here at Wales Park, you know,
where the parking area is? Put a exit
[1:47:08] only and an entrance only.
I I know it's marked on the ground, but
[1:47:12] these hillbillies do not see that. They
can't even use their
[1:47:15] » I saw it today, man.
>> They cuss by all the time down there.
[1:47:20] » Am I wrong? Have you ever seen it?
>> Yeah.
[1:47:21] » Oh, no. That's what I'm saying. I saw it
this afternoon when I was at the water.
[1:47:26] » People don't look down. Don't look down.
They look up. Could we do that?
[1:47:31] » I'm asking you to sit here.
>> Huh?
[1:47:34] » Sure.
>> Sure. Okay. I look forward to seeing it
[1:47:37] like the trucks I see running around
here. Oh, you're going to get me some
[1:47:40] trucks for them people to ride around in
the 1st of August, right?
[1:47:45] » In August. Not the first of August.
>> It's taken over a year to get a truck.
[1:47:50] » I could My my nephew could have sold you
three or four trucks at that time. 10 or
[1:47:55] 12. You think he should have been? Thank
you.
[1:48:00] » Anyone else?
>> See, I try to get your trucks, man.
[1:48:08] Good evening. I'm Michelle Roberts, 231
Lake View Drive. Just a couple of things
[1:48:13] I was thinking about. Um, so some
thoughts on the CPA. Um, it was kind of
[1:48:19] funny. I think one of the board members
said we don't want to write a blank
[1:48:21] check, which of course we don't. Um, so
I just have two recommendations perhaps.
[1:48:26] Um, $200 an hour. Our town manager can
spend up to $2,500.
[1:48:31] She can get about 12 hours out of that.
Maybe they can come in, take a look at
[1:48:35] some high level overview of some things
and give her a cost estimate. Or perhaps
[1:48:39] the board can come back and just set a
initial limit to give them some time to
[1:48:43] come in and look at it based off what
they see. They should be able to give
[1:48:47] you guys a cost estimate of what they
think it would cost. Might be a little
[1:48:50] bit easier to have that conversation.
Um, I also wanted to bring up that, you
[1:48:55] know, according to our charter, the town
manager or excuse me, not town manager,
[1:48:59] um, the town recorder and the CMFO, they
are appointed by the board. Their salary
[1:49:05] is always also set by the board. So,
that's up to the board to have that
[1:49:09] discussion. We haven't seen that
discussion happen. like to recommend
[1:49:13] that perhaps either in the next meeting
or do another workshop. You guys
[1:49:17] [clears throat] really need to look at
that especially if we're having a hard
[1:49:20] time with the current salary that's set
there. Um
[1:49:25] I also I know there's a lot of just when
it comes to um the reports from the
[1:49:29] police department, but I just wanted to
say that the police's job is not revenue
[1:49:33] generation. And I know we joke about it,
but I just want to give them the credit
[1:49:38] they deserve for the hard work they do
for our community because it's more than
[1:49:41] that. They do a lot of things that we
don't see and it's very dangerous at
[1:49:46] times. So, just want to give them that
credit where that credit's due. And then
[1:49:50] Christa, um, you brought up the employee
handbook. I have to tell you all it is a
[1:49:55] huge undertaking, especially when you
consider the difference in laws and
[1:50:00] policies from 2007 until now. Is a huge
difference. It's not just putting a
[1:50:05] bunch of things in a book and saying,
"Hey, we're done." She has to look at so
[1:50:09] many different points that are specific
to the criteria of the organization that
[1:50:13] she's running and then figure out which
ones actually apply to the employees
[1:50:18] here and then make certain changes to
that based off of how our organization
[1:50:23] runs here. It's a huge undertaking. I'm
surprised you got it to this point this.
[1:50:27] » So, I don't want to take credit for it.
We handed it off to MTAS and they did
[1:50:31] it. But yes,
>> still huge undertaking because you still
[1:50:34] have to review it and you know it has to
go through legal. There's a lot that
[1:50:38] goes to that process. So don't sell
yourself short. It is a huge
[1:50:41] undertaking. It is long long long
overdue. But thank you for your efforts
[1:50:45] on that. It will do wonders for our
employees and for our town. So that's
[1:50:49] all I have. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[1:50:51] » All right. Anybody else?
[1:51:06] There you go.