1 00:00:35,110 --> 00:00:38,990 Welcome to our regular town council meeting for Tuesday, September 1st. I am 2 00:00:40,370 --> 00:00:44,490 Oh, okay, you're okay, I'm sorry I put on that microphone. 3 00:00:45,730 --> 00:00:46,310 That's better. 4 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:47,150 That's better again. 5 00:00:54,770 --> 00:00:56,390 Started with a couple of comments. 6 00:00:58,930 --> 00:01:01,950 I see a few people joining us online today. 7 00:01:02,450 --> 00:01:04,550 If you're online and would like to make a comment, 8 00:01:04,650 --> 00:01:06,590 please put your name in the chat. 9 00:01:07,170 --> 00:01:08,150 That'd be much appreciated. 10 00:01:09,350 --> 00:01:12,270 And since I can't see it, if anybody's there, maybe Brick, 11 00:01:12,350 --> 00:01:14,930 can you see if anybody in the room wants to make a public comment? 12 00:01:17,050 --> 00:01:17,490 We'll 13 00:01:19,700 --> 00:01:24,100 give it just a hot second here to see if anybody online wants to make a public comment. 14 00:01:26,220 --> 00:01:27,920 Not immediately seeing anyone. 15 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,580 We've got gypsies with handrails. 16 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,820 Okay, handrails, I can see that. 17 00:01:34,740 --> 00:01:35,820 Okay, hey, go ahead, Jim. 18 00:01:36,780 --> 00:01:39,840 Thank you, Josh, and thank you to all members of the council. 19 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,780 I know that this kind of work this year is harder than it looks from here. 20 00:01:45,780 --> 00:01:55,320 I have a concern I wanted to share, and mainly it has to do with the leadership at the state 21 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,720 level, regardless of anyone's party or affiliation. 22 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:08,180 I was very concerned a few months ago, up in Boxelder, or the last little while, I think 23 00:02:08,180 --> 00:02:14,940 everybody knows what I'm talking about, the state cut a deal with the corporation over water 24 00:02:14,940 --> 00:02:22,920 and the actual county commission didn't know anything about it until the last minute, 25 00:02:22,940 --> 00:02:27,760 and at that point they had enough. They really didn't have any say that there was nothing they could really do. 26 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:37,980 And what I'm thinking, I look around and I'm seeing a lot of water issues across not only the west, 27 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,360 but across the country and maybe even the world. 28 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:51,160 And our own position here is that we have a divided governance or a divided management on our water. 29 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:57,100 And I think it's time that we really start considering that as a town. 30 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,140 And it won't be long. 31 00:03:01,540 --> 00:03:06,540 I don't think before someone tries to play off one entity against another the way these things were. 32 00:03:06,540 --> 00:03:14,140 In any case, I think our water is going to be a lot more secure and a lot safer if we 33 00:03:14,140 --> 00:03:22,220 are to unify the entities that are controlling our water and unify them under the town council. 34 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:28,360 We have an educated, not to say mature electorate. 35 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,760 We have a good turnout on the boat. 36 00:03:31,460 --> 00:03:33,140 We seem to be solving problems. 37 00:03:33,140 --> 00:03:36,940 The council has proven itself. It's not going to go away tomorrow or next year. 38 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:44,920 And actually it seems to be one of the stronger town councils and stronger entities in the region to me. 39 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:52,380 But I think it is a weakness just from looking at it from the outside. 40 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:58,020 And that's not to put any reflection on anyone who is on either the water board or the council. 41 00:03:58,780 --> 00:04:05,320 these are upstanding people who all care very deeply about our water in this town 42 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:10,620 and how important it is they're needless to say there's you know they're the 43 00:04:10,620 --> 00:04:15,680 people of highest integrity and I and I trust that if the Council and the 44 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:23,060 Water Board were to come together and and recognize that we are stronger as a 45 00:04:23,060 --> 00:04:38,740 unified town and a unified voice over our water, you know, with regard to our water, that we're just going to be stronger and better able to resist the trials that will come. 46 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:52,820 I believe so that's my spiel. Thank you very much for listening and I hope you all have a good meeting and thank you. 47 00:04:52,820 --> 00:04:59,500 Thanks, Jim. I really appreciate your comments. I'll just go on the record now, say this mirror 48 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:01,360 will never sign an NDA with the data center. 49 00:05:04,260 --> 00:05:06,520 But I think, you know, closer to home, you 50 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,440 have some really dollar points. And I think there's some really good collaboration happening 51 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:17,380 now between the town and the water board. And I think that the future is bright for that 52 00:05:17,380 --> 00:05:22,880 relationship. And we'll obviously have to see what happens as time goes on and we continue 53 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:28,720 of those conversations. I don't see anybody else with their hand up or anyone else name in 54 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:36,020 the chat and I'm guessing nobody else there so I'll go ahead and close the public comment period. 55 00:05:37,620 --> 00:05:42,240 And we'll turn to the portion of the meeting where we talk about approval of minutes. 56 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:49,260 I wanted to propose a slightly unconventional thing which is to revisit some minutes we talked 57 00:05:49,260 --> 00:05:55,960 about last time and it's mostly because when we're doing those minutes I forgot to raise an issue 58 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:05,060 that I had written down my notes and want to be kind of careful about these days and that is the 59 00:06:05,060 --> 00:06:12,440 minutes from the 4th of August and it's in the section where we were talking about voting on the 60 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:19,980 contract for maintenance services, and the minutes say that I abstain because of a conflict 61 00:06:19,980 --> 00:06:25,040 of interest, and I just wanted to be really clear, I did not say that I had a conflict 62 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,260 of interest. I do not have a conflict of interest. I said I was conflicted. I was probably 63 00:06:30,260 --> 00:06:36,040 a poor choice of reverse just because it's close to conflict of interest, but I did not 64 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,760 say I was a conflict of interest. I was not announcing a conflict of interest. I have no monetary 65 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:47,340 or other interests in it so I'm hoping you all will be okay with one more 66 00:06:47,340 --> 00:06:51,200 clarification in those minutes to say you know if you want to say I'm 67 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,260 conflicted that's the exact words I used I just want to make sure that was 68 00:06:55,260 --> 00:06:58,700 clear because there's really technical definitions on the state level of 69 00:06:58,700 --> 00:07:01,560 conflict of interest that we really want to be careful about all 70 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:06,470 right so 71 00:07:10,410 --> 00:07:12,210 that's 72 00:07:12,210 --> 00:07:16,050 the first set of minutes I guess those are the only minutes we really need to go 73 00:07:16,050 --> 00:07:21,130 back on. We'll work on our future minutes at a future meeting. That's right. We didn't 74 00:07:21,130 --> 00:07:22,390 put any other minutes on here, right? 75 00:07:24,570 --> 00:07:30,410 The 18th. Josh, I'm sharing my screen. Can you just verify that you're okay with, or 76 00:07:30,410 --> 00:07:35,750 everyone's okay with the jala or the August 4th, you noted that he expressed he was conflicted 77 00:07:35,750 --> 00:07:38,310 with the issue or how would you like that stated? 78 00:07:40,410 --> 00:07:44,270 I would just make conflicted on the issue to be fine. 79 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:54,120 I worked with Mr. Kellegerson on the fire department, I think a lot of him didn't know much 80 00:07:54,120 --> 00:08:00,320 about our new contractor and just didn't feel like I was in a position to go on it because 81 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,660 I was conflicted because of that, so I think that would be fine. 82 00:08:03,660 --> 00:08:03,720 Okay, 83 00:08:11,430 --> 00:08:18,410 so that is there and then we are editing, remove four conflict of interest, just 84 00:08:18,410 --> 00:08:26,150 viewing of stains, and then those are there, okay, and then let me share my screen for 85 00:08:26,150 --> 00:08:27,290 the August 18th. 86 00:08:29,270 --> 00:08:30,310 That's right, okay. 87 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:33,790 All right, there should be up there now. 88 00:08:36,860 --> 00:08:43,080 I didn't see any major changes and anybody else see anything they felt we needed to 89 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,740 clarify? Did not. No. No. 90 00:08:54,270 --> 00:08:58,450 Requested vote on, on mending the first set we just talked about 91 00:08:58,450 --> 00:09:06,750 and approving these minutes. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay, 92 00:09:06,890 --> 00:09:07,690 we'll have those two. 93 00:09:10,850 --> 00:09:14,790 I'm going to toss it to you to help update us on the emergency services 94 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:21,770 coordinator hiring process. Already. So they actually got quite a few applications for that role, 95 00:09:21,770 --> 00:09:27,410 which is really exciting. We ended up conducting three interviews with folks with really great 96 00:09:27,410 --> 00:09:36,430 experience and it was wonderful to talk with all of them. They had a variety of background 97 00:09:36,430 --> 00:09:41,770 experience and things that they could offer to the role. We ultimately did extend a job offer 98 00:09:41,770 --> 00:09:51,890 to Najoneva Gay. She has a significant experience with EMS as well as fire, including wildland fire. 99 00:09:52,970 --> 00:09:59,270 And so we're really excited to welcome her aboard. She will be starting next Tuesday, September 8th. 100 00:09:59,410 --> 00:10:07,770 And it is a part-time position, so my hope for her is that maybe she can sit in on a couple council meetings. 101 00:10:07,770 --> 00:10:12,670 a lot of her work will be conducted virtually and will do some onboarding between myself, 102 00:10:13,290 --> 00:10:19,690 Josh, and then the emergency services departments here in town. 103 00:10:20,410 --> 00:10:25,590 So I definitely want to welcome her, and I'm hoping that she can attend maybe virtually or in person next week. 104 00:10:26,250 --> 00:10:30,950 But I really thank everyone who did apply, who showed interest to ask great questions, 105 00:10:31,350 --> 00:10:35,970 because we had a fantastic pool of applicants to choose from and it was our decision. 106 00:10:35,970 --> 00:10:45,150 So her major focus to start out will be, of course, you know, getting to the new teams, 107 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:50,550 getting familiar with our, getting familiar with our systems and things like that. 108 00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:59,990 We do have the emergency kind of alert system and operations manual that we want her to go 109 00:10:59,990 --> 00:11:08,170 through and then wanting her to get familiar with, you know, wildland fire, wildland urban 110 00:11:08,170 --> 00:11:14,550 interface work and things like that. I would say, you know, she has a ton of experience 111 00:11:15,110 --> 00:11:21,170 but there will definitely still be areas that will help her in her career growth but it is 112 00:11:21,170 --> 00:11:28,070 fantastic because she already has a wide breadth of network throughout her jobs and then throughout 113 00:11:28,070 --> 00:11:34,910 the county. Anything to add Josh? Yeah I did want to add a couple things reiterate that 114 00:11:34,910 --> 00:11:40,150 it wasn't quite a tough decision because we had really really good strong candidates 115 00:11:40,150 --> 00:11:46,190 with a range of expertise and I was a really welcome thing to see. We didn't know how many 116 00:11:46,190 --> 00:11:52,310 candidates we'd get for this position so it's great to see folks interested. I want to make 117 00:11:52,310 --> 00:12:01,430 a particular note to the council we had and I asked his permission to to say to this but we had 118 00:12:01,430 --> 00:12:08,390 the actual fire chief from Mohawk reach out to us when he saw this position and actually 119 00:12:08,390 --> 00:12:16,450 interviewed for the role he was interested in helping us out and you know while we felt like 120 00:12:16,450 --> 00:12:23,570 Nezronin was the better fit for the role. We think we could really benefit from some 121 00:12:23,570 --> 00:12:29,770 advisory contract advisory services from TJ. He was really willing to help us 122 00:12:29,770 --> 00:12:35,190 out with his perspective of challenges with other rural fire departments in Utah, 123 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:40,490 emergency management planning. So I had a conversation with him actually just today 124 00:12:40,490 --> 00:12:46,110 and we'll kind of look into what that might look like but it may be that we 125 00:12:46,110 --> 00:12:52,350 use a little bit of our contracting budget to engage him in just helping out and jump 126 00:12:52,350 --> 00:12:58,730 starting our learning process on some things that he knows really well from his role as 127 00:12:58,730 --> 00:13:03,210 the fire chief up in the lab. Obviously, that's a full-time position. It was going to be difficult 128 00:13:03,210 --> 00:13:08,090 for him to be down in bluff on a regular basis, and there were a number of challenges with 129 00:13:08,090 --> 00:13:14,190 him feeling the role, but a great opportunity for us to perhaps work with someone going 130 00:13:14,190 --> 00:13:18,570 forward so I wanted you to either heads up that we're going to discuss that further with him 131 00:13:19,350 --> 00:13:22,930 obviously we'll stay within the budget parameters that the council has 132 00:13:23,770 --> 00:13:29,090 has approved and you know wouldn't go beyond that without coming back to the council for 133 00:13:29,090 --> 00:13:34,650 further budget guidance but it's pretty exciting to have some run of his caliber interested in 134 00:13:34,650 --> 00:13:41,930 helping us out and giving us some some support so maybe open it up just to the council if anybody 135 00:13:41,930 --> 00:13:47,730 has any questions where we're headed or about the hiring process and how it has unfolded so far. 136 00:13:49,870 --> 00:13:54,010 Thanks everyone for doing the interviews and working through that. 137 00:13:56,230 --> 00:14:01,510 I have heard a lot of good suggestions that I think that this person could implement into 138 00:14:01,510 --> 00:14:08,950 programs. So I would say that maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea just to throw some advisory ideas out there. 139 00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:15,430 You know, sort of committee wise or something, just to kind of come up with things that could 140 00:14:15,430 --> 00:14:22,170 help with this because, like I said, I've heard lots of good ideas thrown at me about things 141 00:14:22,170 --> 00:14:22,850 that could happen. 142 00:14:23,570 --> 00:14:26,390 So, that's great, Jen. 143 00:14:28,510 --> 00:14:34,390 Aaron and I will work on scheduling an initial meeting with Nojone and start thinking through 144 00:14:34,390 --> 00:14:38,470 kind of her work plan for the first, you know, 60, 90 days. 145 00:14:39,110 --> 00:14:43,690 but I think it would be really helpful for us to hear from council members on 146 00:14:43,690 --> 00:14:49,650 anything like that if you have ideas so if you'd like we could put this on the 147 00:14:49,650 --> 00:14:53,690 agenda for our work session our next meeting or I'd also just be happy to have 148 00:14:53,690 --> 00:14:58,810 you provide you know comments to me or Aaron and we can work that in as we 149 00:14:58,810 --> 00:14:59,350 Manager. 150 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:20,500 Getting up in the role. Do you have a preference over, you know, doing that in a working meeting versus providing direct feedback? I think a work session would be nice, just because I think it's nice to bounce ideas off of everybody in the group rather than, you know, I'm just, just kind of going one on one type of thing. So if we have time in a work session, I think that would be great. 151 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:30,820 Oh, I'll ask Aaron. You don't mind helping me remember to put that on for our next work session. We'll put it a little bit later in the agenda. 152 00:15:30,820 --> 00:15:35,380 us if we don't have time for it, we can come back to it, but I think that's a great idea. 153 00:15:35,540 --> 00:15:35,900 Thanks, Jen. 154 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:48,340 Hearing nothing further on that, we want to introduce the next item. 155 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,020 As you recall, we've been discussing employee benefits policy. 156 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,100 We're not quite ready to move forward with the formal policy vote, which I anticipate will 157 00:15:57,100 --> 00:16:01,900 happen on our next regular meeting and some more discussion happening at our work session 158 00:16:01,900 --> 00:16:02,460 next week. 159 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:12,480 But I think we were all agreed that we want to be able to provide retirement services 160 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:20,580 benefits to our full-time staff, and in order to do that, Utah retirement services requires 161 00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:28,780 us to have a resolution from the board to move forward with starting that process. 162 00:16:28,780 --> 00:16:35,720 And so figure we didn't need to have an official final vote on the policy before we could get those wheels turning. 163 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,640 Obviously, we will have a formal policy really soon. 164 00:16:40,620 --> 00:16:48,840 But wanted to get this process going so that as soon as we have that policy in place, we can also have the benefits flowing. 165 00:16:50,020 --> 00:16:55,520 And we didn't need one for PHB, but we did need one from Utah Retirement Services. 166 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:01,200 So, if you saw on your packet, it's a very short agenda item, a very short resolution. 167 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,220 And I'd open it up for any questions or discussion on the resolution. 168 00:17:10,410 --> 00:17:11,210 Pretty straightforward. 169 00:17:11,790 --> 00:17:14,890 If there's 170 00:17:19,210 --> 00:17:23,630 no discussion on this, we'll go ahead and take a vote because this is a roadless solution. 171 00:17:23,630 --> 00:17:34,430 We need a roll call vote. So start with me. I'll say I and pass it to you, Britt. Hi, I'm going to 172 00:17:34,430 --> 00:17:38,370 abstain from the vote on this one because of my conflict of interest. 173 00:17:41,230 --> 00:17:41,890 Thanks, everybody, 174 00:17:42,070 --> 00:17:48,870 for participation. We'll say that passes on a four zero vote with one extension. 175 00:17:54,180 --> 00:17:54,780 Now we've got a 176 00:17:54,780 --> 00:18:00,080 couple of items from Michael and Michael. Welcome back to fluff. I wish I was there to you see 177 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:07,860 you in person that maybe I'll go ahead and buy you to come up and since I'm 178 00:18:07,860 --> 00:18:12,240 remodeled be a little bit harder to hear I'll let you guys kind of guide this 179 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,800 and if I have any questions I'll jump in but go ahead Michael and let's go ahead 180 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:29,280 and talk a little bit about the West Love Cottonwood Edition Chips and Wayne 181 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:39,040 rapid crush south to the portion of West Bluff that's gravel right now and it hasn't 182 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:55,600 been worked on since 2021 and so the Chimpsilat using biolitics crisis, we're looking at a 183 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:08,000 the limited amount of $100,000 and the plan is to get a proposal from contractors and 184 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:17,460 then go to the transportation, the county transportation board on the 21st and try to get a 50% 185 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:24,520 that matching with it, which make it work, party work. 186 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:31,180 So that's the proposal, preliminary proposal. 187 00:19:32,060 --> 00:19:33,020 Yeah, there it is there. 188 00:19:33,260 --> 00:19:35,440 So let me share my screen stuff of some line. 189 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,140 You can see, get oriented. 190 00:19:40,140 --> 00:19:42,680 Sorry, this is a very large file. 191 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:44,700 Okay, here we go. 192 00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:48,500 So you see locks, locks bar, 193 00:19:52,620 --> 00:20:06,120 locks bar, saddle, all those red lines today, gravel, six 194 00:20:19,090 --> 00:20:21,050 So this is sagebrush here. 195 00:20:23,970 --> 00:20:31,510 So sagebrush, we're talking about Fort Street to the end, this street to the end, and 196 00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:41,430 then six street to sagebrush, right there, and that one that extends down is an alley, 197 00:20:42,410 --> 00:20:46,870 So we wouldn't, we wouldn't do anything that would perhaps rate it. 198 00:20:47,210 --> 00:20:47,430 So 199 00:20:54,570 --> 00:20:56,210 the blue or existing asphalt? 200 00:20:56,810 --> 00:20:59,090 The blue is existing asphalt. 201 00:20:59,330 --> 00:20:59,470 Yes. 202 00:20:59,850 --> 00:21:01,690 And the red is gravel. 203 00:21:02,230 --> 00:21:02,370 Right. 204 00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:08,990 Now, from what I understand, Chip C among gravel is non-infective. 205 00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:10,030 No, no. 206 00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:14,670 As the process would be to stabilize the road base, 207 00:21:14,670 --> 00:21:23,810 and move the gravel, stabilize the road base with cement, with that cement house, that's 208 00:21:23,810 --> 00:21:32,010 the standard stabilization, and then two coats of chips in, and that's the front end 209 00:21:32,010 --> 00:21:35,510 approved the drainage, and that would be the process. 210 00:21:37,170 --> 00:21:39,510 It wouldn't go on top of these. 211 00:21:41,030 --> 00:21:44,130 Is that what they did in bluff four years ago? 212 00:21:45,030 --> 00:21:46,730 Is that what they did in bluff four years ago? 213 00:21:47,610 --> 00:21:48,270 Five years ago? 214 00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:51,870 Yeah, we did. 215 00:21:52,670 --> 00:21:55,010 Because the left over was done in my driveway. 216 00:21:56,950 --> 00:22:02,990 Oh, I think you're thinking of the debauchled top of Mulberry. 217 00:22:03,330 --> 00:22:04,610 Yeah, one of the chips you had when I got the thing. 218 00:22:06,050 --> 00:22:08,510 When they did the straight right behind here, 219 00:22:08,510 --> 00:22:12,310 I think it was supposed if I wasn't on the board at that point in time 220 00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:16,950 But I think remember listening to the meeting that they were calling it a chip seal type product 221 00:22:17,530 --> 00:22:21,210 Because they had chip sealed the ass or the driveway at Twin Rocks 222 00:22:22,090 --> 00:22:23,970 So who was that contractor? 223 00:22:30,110 --> 00:22:32,390 Pay for wrong. Yeah 224 00:22:33,290 --> 00:22:33,630 Sorry. 225 00:22:34,190 --> 00:22:34,650 Paveright. 226 00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:36,750 Paveright. 227 00:22:37,450 --> 00:22:38,130 Paveright. 228 00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:38,510 Yes. 229 00:22:39,070 --> 00:22:39,750 Paveright. 230 00:22:40,190 --> 00:22:40,350 Yes. 231 00:22:41,170 --> 00:22:44,770 So yes, I do think that that was what that was built for. 232 00:22:45,090 --> 00:22:55,830 For this particular project, we would be doing a bid process ensuring that the contractors are 233 00:22:56,270 --> 00:22:57,330 qualified to do the work. 234 00:22:58,170 --> 00:23:09,210 We know a lot of them in the area, so we'd have more of the formal submission and get cost estimates and make sure that they are qualified as well. 235 00:23:10,750 --> 00:23:17,690 Yeah, and, you know, it would be a lovely, like, the grand junction, the grand junction 236 00:23:17,690 --> 00:23:20,410 and that, or, you know, like, the grand junction. 237 00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:25,690 Well, not to name any names, well, we got a lot of folks, we got the role of X, we'll 238 00:23:25,690 --> 00:23:26,630 reach out to all of them. 239 00:23:27,770 --> 00:23:33,630 And then, Michael, so the reason that Michael's able to, like, provide estimates and everything 240 00:23:33,630 --> 00:23:43,610 is because Violetics, we did the Rhodes Analysis a year ago, two years ago. So Michael, can 241 00:23:43,610 --> 00:23:49,710 you just talk through the prioritization and where this project fell on the Violetics recommendations? 242 00:23:53,270 --> 00:24:06,190 So this was scheduled to be done, a projection to be done, well, I don't have the 23rd, 243 00:24:07,390 --> 00:24:18,050 but the 23rd would include doing the Chimpsil process to fall all the streets in doubt the way they looked at. 244 00:24:18,670 --> 00:24:27,530 And so in terms of like why this project would be a priority versus other other items can talk through your process on that as to why this one is a good one for this year. 245 00:24:28,110 --> 00:24:34,190 Yeah, well, you know, this part, you know, like I said before, this part of town has got a very 246 00:24:34,190 --> 00:24:44,950 little attention, mostly attention to the area. And so I just felt like it was time to improve 247 00:24:46,050 --> 00:24:50,810 Westport. And, you know, and again, this is a proposal. 248 00:24:54,770 --> 00:25:01,010 Yeah, because we had the large project that went through this past year, over on Second 249 00:25:01,010 --> 00:25:08,790 East and Black Locust, you've had work going on, Cottonwood, you've done some stuff over 250 00:25:08,790 --> 00:25:16,870 here on Mulberry as well as some stabilization on Fifth, I think, and by the school. 251 00:25:17,670 --> 00:25:30,790 and then of course we took on, these are new so we just took all of these on, you guys were all here for that, and so yeah, this Southwestern corner hasn't received much attention. 252 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:50,640 Oh, she probably should be here, if not, let me know, call it. 253 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,740 So, you know, just called back to Violetics. 254 00:25:54,980 --> 00:25:59,480 You know, they asked the manager to prove along the streets 255 00:26:09,580 --> 00:26:16,760 We have been able to raise 1.2 million for the high-way improvement project, like 256 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:42,540 and if I understand right from previous conversations, if we do the GF seal on those roads, we get more funding for roads for the next year as well. 257 00:26:42,540 --> 00:27:00,600 Well, yeah, that's the other benefit, you know, a gravel road is weighted too, but you know, in terms of a dispersion, annual dispersion, a road is weighted as five, so it's a big difference. 258 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:12,040 We haven't gotten our final final this person from UW or 2020, just go to UW in 2026. 259 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:22,000 But that should indicate to us what kind of benefit we got from doing the recycle glass pool. 260 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,020 because 261 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:31,300 we lost and you might recall with the downbills 3.3 miles with this command. 262 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:34,580 Right. 263 00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:42,470 So Michael, a couple of questions and comments here. 264 00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:50,010 I am certainly in favor of fixing up the streets over there on the west side. 265 00:27:50,010 --> 00:27:56,570 And I do think that like rather than wishful thinking that we're going to win the lottery 266 00:27:56,570 --> 00:28:01,870 for 3.5 million like we just have to go through like how much can we do with the budget 267 00:28:01,870 --> 00:28:07,030 we have this year and like yes we will apply for grants where we can but like you know 268 00:28:07,030 --> 00:28:10,830 per small town and we just need to be thoughtful about how we spend our money. 269 00:28:11,890 --> 00:28:19,290 My thinking is that I really like to see us develop kind of a prioritization list that 270 00:28:19,290 --> 00:28:22,090 that the council can discuss as a matter of policy. 271 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:28,820 We can do that. 272 00:28:30,780 --> 00:28:33,920 You know, one street or a few streets at a time 273 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,200 and really think about like what are our major priorities? 274 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,120 What's in the most need? 275 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,800 What's the biggest bang for the buck, those sort of items? 276 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,420 So while I think we should go ahead and move forward with this now, 277 00:28:46,660 --> 00:28:49,500 I'd rather for the kind of the rest of the year's budget 278 00:28:51,060 --> 00:28:53,800 work on some sort of prioritized list. 279 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,700 so we can be thinking about the projects in relation to each other. 280 00:28:59,020 --> 00:29:02,660 I have a hard time saying, well this is a great project, of course it's needed. 281 00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:05,520 But how does that compare to the other needs of the town 282 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:11,360 and how we all have to maybe be prioritizing those funds? 283 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,680 And I know that's not an easy process, but I think it would be really helpful 284 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:20,820 for the Council to see kind of a list of the top five or the top ten projects 285 00:29:20,820 --> 00:29:29,100 And I was to be able to think about, okay, how do we want to sequence them with the limited funds that we have over what time frame. 286 00:29:29,340 --> 00:29:40,020 So I'd say, go ahead with this for now and let's try to do more of a prioritization process so we can add a little more of a list on. 287 00:29:40,020 --> 00:29:59,730 I have a question and I want to know how six west is going to what we're going to do with six west to make sure that we don't have an issue with this. 288 00:30:01,390 --> 00:30:11,630 I'd hate to approve this project to get money for it, and then be slapped with a lawsuit or something like that, because I don't feel like we've ever really settled the Six West issues. 289 00:30:11,630 --> 00:30:19,510 just says the one of the by the by the the alley well the corner the alleyway half the street 290 00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:26,920 as far as you know I mean I think we have differing I think there are differing opinions 291 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:32,020 out there that I don't think have ever really been resolved and I just you know I would I 292 00:30:32,020 --> 00:30:40,180 would hate to see something come down and happen and we pave something that is an hours or 293 00:30:40,180 --> 00:30:45,940 Or, you know, I would just like to see some resolution to this 6th-last issue as two boundaries. 294 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,920 I was not getting any pressure on it. 295 00:30:49,820 --> 00:30:51,300 Oh, okay. 296 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,860 Yeah, Jim, I think that's a really good point. 297 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:08,120 And my suggestion would be that either we aid contact the potential, the land orders that would be of 298 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:16,700 potential conflict and get their sign off or we wait on that particular zone as you know we're 299 00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:23,720 in the process right now potentially hiring or rehiring legal counsel and one of the projects 300 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:30,200 we want them to work on is kind of resolving the major serving inaccuracies that are on the west 301 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:36,020 side of town and what would be needed to fix that. I don't think it's a big deal for most of the 302 00:31:36,020 --> 00:31:39,020 streets over there, but that sixth wet is one where it is. 303 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,660 So I think we would want to either A, have something in writing that the landowners 304 00:31:43,660 --> 00:31:49,200 involved are okay with it happening, or B, we wait until we can get a little more 305 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:57,460 official final, you know, resolution on that particular issue. 306 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,980 And I've got some thoughts of how we might go about doing that, but we really need to work 307 00:32:02,980 --> 00:32:06,240 with an attorney to make sure that it all works out well, I think. 308 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:06,900 I 309 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:22,400 think we have some, you know, I think we have some overall weird spots in town to do 310 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,700 with roads that I think that if this year we really want, you know, I mean, we could, 311 00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:30,960 we could really take it up and kind of clear up a lot of things. 312 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:38,200 I know that the, where Mulberry splits off is kind of a weird spot and I think Cecilia has 313 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,900 some weird issues and I think there are a few that if we just kind of focused on 314 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:45,600 clearing up some road issues that it would be really beneficial. 315 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:54,680 Yeah I agree because you know the second street was surveyed, second street was almost all the way up. 316 00:32:55,620 --> 00:32:55,740 Right. 317 00:32:56,060 --> 00:32:56,560 Right. 318 00:32:57,140 --> 00:32:58,400 And the markers were there. 319 00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:58,860 Yep. 320 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,340 And the last time I wrote I didn't see it. 321 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,900 So I agree with you. 322 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:10,980 there may be one mark on the, so that would be the east side. 323 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,140 Yeah. 324 00:33:13,660 --> 00:33:13,840 Yeah. 325 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:20,360 So I agree that should be checked out because right now there's a sign that says dead end. 326 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,360 It's not a dead end. 327 00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:22,040 Right. 328 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,640 Wait on second. 329 00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:24,820 Second. 330 00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:27,460 Did you come off, come off from Mulberry? 331 00:33:28,060 --> 00:33:28,880 You don't want the second? 332 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:29,300 Yeah. 333 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,600 The property only had a sign that says dead end. 334 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,340 which is confusing. 335 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:34,800 Yep. 336 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:36,460 That sign should be back. 337 00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:39,940 Oh, yeah. 338 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,860 Well, Michael, we should talk to the landowner about that sign. 339 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,340 As you know, working on those sort of issues around town 340 00:33:50,740 --> 00:33:52,540 to work on misleading signs. 341 00:33:53,580 --> 00:33:56,900 But I would just suggest as it relates to working on these issues, 342 00:33:57,180 --> 00:33:58,640 we've got issues all around town. 343 00:33:58,820 --> 00:34:01,560 We take a somewhat holistic approach to them 344 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:08,300 And but like if we wait until every one of these issues is done to do road maintenance in our town, it might be a long time 345 00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:21,900 so I don't think we should do that but rather than get you in the middle of those issues, either A, we can talk about talking to the landowners involved in this particular case, or we can just hold off on that. 346 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,600 I don't think it'll be forever, but I don't think it'll happen in six months. 347 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:33,100 We're having like is not an easy process to get a court order to have things corrected. 348 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,500 And so, and certainly we have other things going on as a town, so it's going to take us 349 00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:43,800 a minute to have those discussions and want to do it in a way that honors all the property 350 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,440 owners involved and make sure everybody's on the same page, so it's going to take a little 351 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,780 bit of work and I don't want to hold up you doing good work on the town on behalf of that. 352 00:34:52,780 --> 00:35:02,440 Yeah, I mean, you know, that particular street according to biobatics is a, you know, got a value of 13,630 dollars. 353 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,580 Okay. 354 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,860 Well, thank you. 355 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:20,240 We also have the discussion of spring weeds. Can you tell us what you're thinking about that? 356 00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:27,620 Yeah, so I'm sorry I missed it. 357 00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:38,240 So I got reports over on rapper brush that goat heads are beginning to appear in the right 358 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:46,360 of ways, probably because of the summer, there was any water from the drain down into the 359 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:46,660 cages. 360 00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:56,280 And so suggestion was made that this is a good time to spray that crop of goat heads and 361 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,260 I mean, 362 00:36:12,340 --> 00:36:17,320 I have two jobs that I got from the county. 363 00:36:17,420 --> 00:36:21,240 The county comes down every spring, you know, over by the library. 364 00:36:22,540 --> 00:36:25,900 And so that's the question. 365 00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:33,620 Being a cyclist, I like the idea of spraying for go-hats because that's the only way that 366 00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:36,600 I know to really knock them back. 367 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,820 And how many use the go-hats do I look before I'm caught in the corner? 368 00:36:42,730 --> 00:36:47,630 I mean as long as they're not, I mean if they've already gone to seed, then spraying them, 369 00:36:47,730 --> 00:36:49,390 I mean it would kill it, but it wouldn't. 370 00:36:49,570 --> 00:36:52,170 Right, so that's why right now it's kind of the idea to talk to them. 371 00:36:52,190 --> 00:36:55,270 Yeah, and if you're just popping up right now, then I say, yeah, I'll spray them. 372 00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:56,870 Yeah, I think I have to do spring. 373 00:36:57,490 --> 00:36:57,610 Yep. 374 00:36:58,670 --> 00:37:00,050 Okay, mindful spring. 375 00:37:00,610 --> 00:37:00,910 Yeah. 376 00:37:04,070 --> 00:37:05,550 Well, I'll chime in here. 377 00:37:05,970 --> 00:37:09,370 I think spring is a freaking waste of time and money and effort. 378 00:37:10,170 --> 00:37:15,390 I've been channeling my inner Ed Dobson for a long time 379 00:37:15,390 --> 00:37:18,210 and being a warrior on goads on my property. 380 00:37:18,610 --> 00:37:23,130 And there's no way you can spray unless you're spraying 381 00:37:23,130 --> 00:37:27,910 almost every week of the year for the summer and you're going to get co-heads like 382 00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:32,530 they come back every time there's any rain like we would have to have somebody 383 00:37:32,530 --> 00:37:36,510 out there literally every week all summer long if we wanted to catch 384 00:37:36,510 --> 00:37:43,350 co-heads and I should as heck don't want spray around my property around my dogs 385 00:37:43,350 --> 00:37:47,870 around the kids that play at my house and so I think it opens up a big can of 386 00:37:47,870 --> 00:37:54,750 worms, where you're both wasting money and time and causing potential effect on people's 387 00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:55,570 private property. 388 00:37:56,370 --> 00:38:02,110 I look for us to look into this further, but no town that I've ever lived in is the 389 00:38:02,110 --> 00:38:06,950 town responsible for that park strip out in front of your house or what ab you. 390 00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:15,190 Somehow you're expected that the town is going to take care of the weeds in front of your 391 00:38:15,190 --> 00:38:15,550 house. 392 00:38:15,550 --> 00:38:40,270 And I just think it's not likely that we can ever do a good job with that, and we would certainly need to pay our maintenance person a lot of money to be just going around town spraying all the time, which I'd much rather have them spend time and after doing something other than going after the goat heads that I don't think it's going to be successful spraying because you just have to be on it all the time. 393 00:38:40,910 --> 00:38:45,850 And I know it really sucks to do it because I'm out there in the heat all the time. 394 00:38:46,250 --> 00:38:54,670 I wish I could burn them, but we got a burn band in place, but it's just, it's not successful 395 00:38:54,670 --> 00:38:57,970 to spray one or two times, you'd have to be spraying all summer. 396 00:38:59,030 --> 00:39:04,650 And I just think the town is no way the town could take on keeping go heads off of people's 397 00:39:04,650 --> 00:39:07,750 properties they need to get to work in front of their houses. 398 00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:13,480 Maybe that's controversial to say, but am I up in any way? 399 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,900 I mean, I agree with your point. 400 00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:19,340 I think we all fight the same battle at all of our houses. 401 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,900 I mean, pulling out and removing them physically 402 00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:25,320 or when you can burn, burning them, 403 00:39:25,460 --> 00:39:27,000 when you can actually destroy the seeds. 404 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,700 But I mean, I don't know, it's tough. 405 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,920 Because this year we haven't had much moisture 406 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,200 and a little bit that we've had. 407 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,200 I mean, they're pretty opportunistic. 408 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:43,000 they pop up as soon as there's any moisture. I mean, if it's really bad and no one's gonna get 409 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:48,650 around to pulling it, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I definitely agree with your point. I'm like, 410 00:39:48,750 --> 00:39:56,590 we could spend a lot of money trying to control and with spray, but it continues going like it has 411 00:39:56,590 --> 00:40:03,410 this year without much moisture. I mean, we may, you know, one treatment might... I don't know. I just 412 00:40:03,410 --> 00:40:07,810 just you never know I mean we could spray it and it might kill all the new ones that 413 00:40:07,810 --> 00:40:12,670 have popped up right now but then you know maybe in two weeks we get another rain and 414 00:40:12,670 --> 00:40:18,950 then the next round comes up and then maybe rains again and we get another round so yeah 415 00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:25,010 I don't know it's co-heads are tough it's definitely it's seemingly never-ending problem 416 00:40:30,460 --> 00:40:34,720 I mean don't get me wrong I'd love for the talent to do whatever we can on goads like I'm 417 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:36,120 of I hate those things. 418 00:40:38,940 --> 00:40:41,640 And those of us that are out there fighting all the time, 419 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,220 I just think we're going to have to figure out 420 00:40:45,220 --> 00:40:46,560 something other that is prey. 421 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,840 And I don't know, I guess it's like if it's 422 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,860 a reasonable amount of money, it's a big precedent to set 423 00:40:54,860 --> 00:40:56,960 that we're going to go start spraying in front of people's 424 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,800 houses and the people call up and be like, hey, come 425 00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,940 spraying in front of my house. 426 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,840 And then I'm going to call up and say, don't 427 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,540 bring in front of my house like I really don't want you getting you know that 428 00:41:05,540 --> 00:41:10,380 stuff in my garden in my house and you know around around my property and I just 429 00:41:10,380 --> 00:41:13,200 think it's a can of worms it's a pretty difficult can of worms. 430 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,560 The only true way 431 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:26,120 I've ever seen to get rid of goat heads and we did it in our pasture up north close 432 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:31,040 to me. Yeah, because on my heads and knees out there the pasture well and if you pull 433 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,660 one big plant one seed falls and you miss it. I tried to catch them all but yeah you 434 00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:37,480 You can then go back and get that one. 435 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,100 Yeah, it wouldn't go. 436 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,520 Maybe the town donates some funding to some genetic research 437 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,780 where we can genetically modify the go-heads 438 00:41:46,780 --> 00:41:49,020 to not produce spiny seeds anymore. 439 00:41:51,460 --> 00:41:55,020 So I would be open to like what the county has done 440 00:41:55,020 --> 00:41:59,120 where it offers spray, like if a homeowner wants 441 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,180 to do that at their property and we want to cover that, 442 00:42:02,660 --> 00:42:04,640 like I'd be okay, then people are popping in, 443 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:10,400 they're doing the work and we're helping to facilitate. To me, that's different from us as a town 444 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,860 paying our contractor to go around, which they're not going to be able to get everything. So 445 00:42:15,860 --> 00:42:20,480 maybe that's a good alternative, is that people are concerned on their property and they don't, 446 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:26,180 you know, have access to do something with it, that we could support them in that way. And to me, 447 00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:33,460 that's a more reasonable kind of middle ground. What about areas where it's not, I mean, it might 448 00:42:33,460 --> 00:42:37,360 somebody's property but someone might not live there like someone probably owns the land but 449 00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:42,540 you know say someone's got a plot or there's not someone living their full time and you know 450 00:42:42,540 --> 00:42:47,820 weeds are just out of control and it's like affecting all the neighbors around like that's 451 00:42:49,180 --> 00:42:54,320 I mean I don't I don't think it's the town's possibility to fix their weed problem but just 452 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,160 just think about it. It seems like that becomes start to get into like the light and you know what I mean? 453 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,440 Yeah, I like kind of thing, but we haven't had to deal with any of this. 454 00:43:02,660 --> 00:43:03,240 Yeah, I've got it. 455 00:43:03,980 --> 00:43:08,580 Well, the county does have ordinances, for example, you know, saying that you have to take 456 00:43:08,580 --> 00:43:10,160 care of not just weeds on your property. 457 00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:17,920 The reality is, if you talk to Ed, you'll get a long sermon on this, but goads aren't actually 458 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,480 on the not just weed list at the county level. 459 00:43:23,340 --> 00:43:28,000 So I don't know if we could, as a town, have our own weed ordinance that says, hey, you 460 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,440 We have to kick her a weed and we do consider going to be a noxious weed. 461 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,120 It's a complex issue there. 462 00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:44,120 I mean, with to your idea, we could do it similar to like the mosquito abatement stuff where 463 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:50,920 we have, yeah, I mean, I don't hate that idea of just having some herbicide that people 464 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,480 could pick up. 465 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,560 I think that's a nice compromise. 466 00:43:54,560 --> 00:44:24,540 I might as I would like to add to that, we have a lot of town property that I think that if we could administer our town maintenance people to kind of focus on those areas, I know that along the old elementary school, the brick, whatever we're calling it these days, the go has can get quite, quite, quite bad and you know, I mean that's two pretty large size blocks along the roadway that we could take care of, certainly around this building and the grounds that are here around this area. 467 00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:31,520 around West Park, I think that if we could kind of make set an example of trying to take 468 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:37,360 care of town properties and providing with chemical or whatever for private residents 469 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,320 that I think that would be a nice gesture. 470 00:44:41,710 --> 00:44:42,750 I'm 100% on that. 471 00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:47,030 We should be living, you know, we should be showing and taking care of the town property 472 00:44:48,370 --> 00:44:53,670 and investing contract time, you know, from our contract means person to do that and totally 473 00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:54,430 make sense. 474 00:44:55,390 --> 00:44:57,550 So I'm very, very supportive of that as well. 475 00:45:09,490 --> 00:45:12,550 Any other discussion on this issue? 476 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:28,360 I guess if not, then Michael and Aaron, maybe we can talk about internally how to kind of make sure and move forward with providing folks some access for the weeds gray and making sure that we're taking care of the town properties. 477 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,280 We 478 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,180 might be able to get the herbicide 479 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:37,820 from the county. 480 00:45:38,180 --> 00:45:41,390 We'll make them die later this spring. 481 00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:45,970 You just pick it up from on there. 482 00:45:46,290 --> 00:45:46,450 Yeah. 483 00:45:47,070 --> 00:45:50,050 Can I ask one bit of clarification for item four? 484 00:45:50,730 --> 00:45:58,450 So due to the Sixth West concern, are we asking Michael to hold off until that is done? 485 00:45:58,450 --> 00:46:03,310 Or are you asking him to move forward with the rest of the project, not including Sixth West? 486 00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:04,410 What was the decision? 487 00:46:04,770 --> 00:46:07,930 I think move forward with the rest of the project and hold out. 488 00:46:07,930 --> 00:46:09,190 up, hold off on six left. 489 00:46:09,650 --> 00:46:09,730 Yeah. 490 00:46:10,290 --> 00:46:11,190 All of six left. 491 00:46:11,690 --> 00:46:13,630 So I have a very other street besides that one, correct? 492 00:46:16,490 --> 00:46:16,650 OK. 493 00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:17,690 All right, thank you for the question. 494 00:46:17,830 --> 00:46:23,850 My caveat on that is I think it'd be worth the conversation 495 00:46:23,850 --> 00:46:26,030 with the proper, you know, the involved proper owners. 496 00:46:26,690 --> 00:46:28,850 And if they're like, no, we don't want you to do that, 497 00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:30,310 then we just move forward without it. 498 00:46:30,410 --> 00:46:33,090 But if they are OK with us moving forward with it, 499 00:46:33,490 --> 00:46:34,530 I think that would be OK. 500 00:46:34,530 --> 00:46:40,970 Okay, so, and I'm happy to have that conversation if you're not, if you're not comfortable 501 00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:45,450 doing that, Michael, but I think it'd be worth while we're doing this project, at least 502 00:46:45,450 --> 00:46:49,290 to have that conversation, and if not, we just work on the rest of the project. 503 00:46:52,650 --> 00:46:58,430 And a quick search on the go-kits to eradicate, and they're looking like they can last in 504 00:46:58,430 --> 00:47:06,110 the soil for up to 10 years to see, and to get them you're gonna have to work five to six 505 00:47:06,110 --> 00:47:11,470 consecutive years to stop them in the best way is digging them up in the spring when the 506 00:47:11,470 --> 00:47:18,690 yellow thing forms and not till them in the ground because they had less to protect you. 507 00:47:18,910 --> 00:47:23,150 That's about to do in my house. I've for about five years of removing them, I've got them back 508 00:47:23,150 --> 00:47:29,010 significantly where I barely have any. Yeah. I'd like to see something like gopede days, 509 00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:33,470 so some like our burr days. You make like a festival a little bit and whoever brings them like the 510 00:47:33,470 --> 00:47:40,350 most go head that was cool yeah I want to see go head days that's a great idea 511 00:47:40,350 --> 00:47:45,770 a lot of that group that comes in in the spring yeah oh yeah that could be an 512 00:47:45,770 --> 00:47:52,170 AmeriCorps project yeah we should but yeah I think you make a big festival 513 00:47:52,170 --> 00:47:58,390 love it and then you know award a trophy and a you know most go heads pulled in a 514 00:47:58,390 --> 00:48:07,970 year on going. Yeah, on going. All right, we will, we will move forward. I'm all about the 515 00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:15,770 go day. That's a great idea. Yeah. Give us some competition. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Michael. 516 00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:21,290 Thanks, Michael. Thanks, Michael. Thank you, Michael. I can't remember what Danny Jocelyn did, but it was in, 517 00:48:21,530 --> 00:48:25,690 maybe it was in conjunction with the arts festival. I don't remember. Did you think that some kind of 518 00:48:26,610 --> 00:48:32,070 No, it was it was it was several years ago. No, no, no, it was a goat head 519 00:48:32,070 --> 00:48:41,890 competition and they just had to bring in, you know, yeah, it could have been 520 00:48:41,890 --> 00:48:47,010 important a year. I think it was more than a year ago, but yes, I think we're thinking 521 00:48:47,010 --> 00:48:48,170 of the same thing. 522 00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:54,590 I think it was a music festival or something 523 00:48:54,590 --> 00:48:54,790 that. 524 00:49:01,450 --> 00:49:10,550 Similarly, serious next agenda item. I wanted to gauge the council's thinking on 525 00:49:10,550 --> 00:49:19,390 this issue. So as you'll recall, we had a little bit of a briefing from Jeremy at the 526 00:49:19,390 --> 00:49:26,790 county on the proposed sales tax, 1% sales tax increase that would go to fund emergency medical 527 00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:35,530 services in the county and since then it has been formally put on the ballot by the 528 00:49:35,530 --> 00:49:40,790 county. I believe it's a proposition number seven is what it's going to be and so everybody's 529 00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:42,370 going to be voting on that this fall. 530 00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:50,940 Governments are not allowed to expend any money to support or 531 00:49:50,940 --> 00:49:59,980 proposed ballot propositions, but we are allowed to take a position, to essentially 532 00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:11,440 say we support or we oppose a ballot initiative as a formal position. There is no requirement 533 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:19,500 that we do so, it's just a statement that we do so, but we could as a body to take a position 534 00:50:19,500 --> 00:50:20,780 on the validation. 535 00:50:22,980 --> 00:50:27,500 I personally am very strongly in favor of it because I think our EMS services in 536 00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:36,340 the county are really underfunded and we need to support our EMTs and do everything we can. And 537 00:50:36,340 --> 00:50:43,340 this is a way where as a very tax-craft county that raising property taxes is very difficult 538 00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:48,780 that the burden of EMS services would primarily fall on visitors. 539 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:55,360 I understand that there are business owners that think that we can't just keep raising 540 00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:02,080 sales taxes indefinitely, but I personally think that most of our visitors are not going 541 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,400 to choose to like drive up the more out where the sales taxes are going to be even higher 542 00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:11,600 or something like that, rather than staying in bluff, they're just going to pay the extra 543 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,080 1% sales taxable should have been a primary EMS. 544 00:51:15,140 --> 00:51:16,980 I know not everybody agrees with me on that. 545 00:51:18,540 --> 00:51:21,620 What I wanted to just gauge is whether or not 546 00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:24,320 the council feels like you would be beneficial for us 547 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,900 to take a position on this issue if you'd rather stay out 548 00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:30,040 of it as a council. 549 00:51:31,580 --> 00:51:34,240 So I'm not putting this up for a formal vote tonight, 550 00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:38,740 but wanted to just see where people's thinking was at on this 551 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,960 and see whether it's something we would want to think about voting on in the future 552 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,040 or if there's not an appetite then you know we've got other things to do but I 553 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,320 feel like it was at least worth a discussion. There are other municipalities and 554 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,420 governments in the county that are going to be taking positions. My understanding 555 00:51:58,420 --> 00:52:03,880 largely in favor and wanted to see where the left sits at that so would welcome 556 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,080 from any discussion from the council on what you think on that issue. 557 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,040 I'll speak to that. 558 00:52:10,220 --> 00:52:12,220 I'm a business owner who collects sales tax. 559 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:18,000 I was very impressed by Jeremy Hogard's presentation that he did with us. 560 00:52:18,220 --> 00:52:24,260 And the fact that he stated that 44% of our attract calls are tourist related at this point in time. 561 00:52:24,660 --> 00:52:29,460 And I think that's particularly true with the bluff EMS and the Southern EMS calls. 562 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,960 I know we have lots of accidents on the highway. 563 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,520 I know we have lots of things like that that are directly tourism related. 564 00:52:36,900 --> 00:52:41,920 I am in favor of the 1% sales tax for the EMS. 565 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,640 I think it's a money well spent and it's a value that's given to all of our tourists. 566 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:53,560 And I think that as a business owner, if I explain that this 1% sales tax increase goes directly to supporting EMS. 567 00:52:54,220 --> 00:52:58,720 And not some other idea that people aren't going to argue with that. 568 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:01,340 people want ambulance service when they need it. 569 00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:05,160 Yeah, I'm all for it. 570 00:53:07,420 --> 00:53:07,900 Yeah, same. 571 00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:15,310 Here's the last one. 572 00:53:15,570 --> 00:53:19,370 No, I was looking it up just quick as I could. 573 00:53:20,490 --> 00:53:20,810 And 574 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,060 does provide that, then we have to give equal time 575 00:53:39,060 --> 00:53:40,340 to those opposing it. 576 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,740 So anybody opposing it has to come down. 577 00:53:43,860 --> 00:53:43,940 Right. 578 00:53:44,180 --> 00:53:48,440 Give them time to tell us why they pose it before we come out 579 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,660 and make a brief statement saying, 580 00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:57,200 And I think that's fair. 581 00:53:58,720 --> 00:53:59,080 I think that's fair. 582 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,960 I think it'd be good to go. 583 00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:04,390 Your right. 584 00:54:04,610 --> 00:54:06,310 My understanding, the way I read the laws, 585 00:54:06,590 --> 00:54:09,710 if we're going to take a position which I want to engage 586 00:54:09,710 --> 00:54:10,470 if you want to. 587 00:54:10,970 --> 00:54:15,830 We would want to put it on an agenda and then invite 588 00:54:15,830 --> 00:54:20,110 the public to come and make any oppositional statements. 589 00:54:20,670 --> 00:54:21,110 So, 590 00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:25,770 and I think that would cover our bases. 591 00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:33,810 We would want to make sure we do that in the meeting where we vote on it as make sure 592 00:54:33,810 --> 00:54:37,530 that we provide that opportunity and put it out there on the agenda that if anybody 593 00:54:37,530 --> 00:54:38,990 wants to come in opposition. 594 00:54:39,830 --> 00:54:44,090 Of course, we would also let people make public comments to that effect at any meeting as 595 00:54:44,090 --> 00:54:45,950 we always do as well. 596 00:54:45,950 --> 00:54:46,610 Do 597 00:54:51,220 --> 00:54:55,840 I basically read the room that you all would be comfortable with us making that make it to make any statement? 598 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:03,360 Yeah, yeah, I think I think Gary's point is well taken, you know, I mean that 599 00:55:04,780 --> 00:55:10,220 That if there's anybody who is in opposition anybody in town, you know are our voting public or something 600 00:55:10,220 --> 00:55:15,340 I don't necessarily know that I want that input from outside of our voting public, but 601 00:55:15,340 --> 00:55:20,220 I don't know if there's any organization out there that's opposing it 602 00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:24,960 I haven't heard of anyone opposing it. 603 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:33,260 Yeah, Gary, I think it's generally for, you know, those rules are generally for larger 604 00:55:33,260 --> 00:55:38,420 ballot initiatives where there's organized opposition, which I'm not aware of any organized 605 00:55:38,420 --> 00:55:42,260 opposition, but I think you're just put it out there in case there's opposition. 606 00:55:42,460 --> 00:55:46,900 We don't know of that we have that opportunity for them to come forward. 607 00:55:47,380 --> 00:55:51,680 I think if we knew of organized opposition, we would want to make a specific invite to 608 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:56,540 those folks. And so I thought, you know, before we put this on an agenda for 609 00:55:56,540 --> 00:55:59,880 formal, though, I would reach out to Jeremy and just be like, hey, has any 610 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:05,320 group come forward with a formal opposition that we would want to invite and see 611 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,340 if he's heard of anything. But other than that, I think we could just put it on the 612 00:56:09,340 --> 00:56:12,820 agenda and they welcome and encourage people to come if they have opposition. 613 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:13,620 I like that. 614 00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:20,610 Okay. Well, I appreciate you all giving some guidance on that. We'll 615 00:56:20,610 --> 00:56:23,690 probably agenda that for our next regular meeting in two weeks. 616 00:56:23,690 --> 00:56:24,270 Erin, 617 00:56:31,010 --> 00:56:34,210 just since my voice is running out do you mind going through the looking ahead 618 00:56:34,210 --> 00:56:35,070 and other items? 619 00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:36,550 Yes. 620 00:56:37,650 --> 00:56:44,990 So, upcoming things for September include discussion in the work session and hopefully a discussion 621 00:56:44,990 --> 00:56:48,510 about the full written policy for the employee benefits. 622 00:56:49,350 --> 00:56:56,510 We did receive multiple responses to our legal counsel RFP, which is exciting. 623 00:56:56,510 --> 00:57:01,770 So Josh and I will be delving into those, comparing them, reaching out for any clarifying 624 00:57:01,770 --> 00:57:06,750 questions, or if we don't already know who they are, reach out and just say hi. 625 00:57:07,690 --> 00:57:14,310 Hopefully we would have that ready for discussion and vote during the regular meeting and middle 626 00:57:14,310 --> 00:57:14,990 September. 627 00:57:17,590 --> 00:57:23,290 Josh is putting together the housing consultant to RFP for you all to look over and we can 628 00:57:23,290 --> 00:57:24,010 get that issued. 629 00:57:24,010 --> 00:57:35,290 And then as a reminder, planning and zoning has requested a joint meeting just to talk about zoning code and zoning code changes for September 15th. 630 00:57:36,030 --> 00:57:50,090 So those are the big ones. Any initial questions, concerns? I know we've got some folks out next week that any other items or sneak peek stuff that you need. 631 00:57:53,250 --> 00:57:59,770 And then of course we've got the emergency services coordinator role duties and items that we'll add to the work session next week 632 00:57:59,770 --> 00:58:06,270 So those of you who are out if you have any thoughts send those to me directly and I'll make sure those are part of the 633 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:23,340 Ready all right here. No other items. We'll go ahead and consider us a terms. Thanks for putting up with me being on from the road and thanks to everybody for being there 634 00:58:23,340 --> 00:58:25,980 Yes, they've traveled yep. Thanks 635 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:32,760 It is 459 pm and we're turning everything on. 636 00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:36,300 All right, so you can hit that over the paper.