1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:11,040 I'd like to welcome everybody to our city council meeting Tuesday, September 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:14,639 1, 2026 at 7 p.m. I hereby call this meeting to order. If everybody stand, 3 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:21,359 we'll do the pledge of allegiance for the flag salute. 4 00:00:17,119 --> 00:00:27,519 » Ready, begin. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:34,119 republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 6 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,119 justice for all. 7 00:00:36,559 --> 00:00:45,200 » All right. As far as our roll call, uh Mr. Rockwell, he is excused. He's not 8 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:50,239 able to attend and we have a vacancy. So that will take us right. And other than 9 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:56,000 that, we have a quorum for four. So, I'll take us right to our action item. 10 00:00:52,559 --> 00:01:02,079 We will do our council vacancy. We have two citizens who would like to do that. 11 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:07,439 Uh we have Mary Jones and Isabelle Gonzalez. 12 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:13,040 And we have uh so if you two would like to just come up and well, yeah, 13 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:16,960 somewhere towards the podium because we uh we got some questions. There's only 14 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:21,840 three questions. And uh 15 00:01:19,119 --> 00:01:27,439 we'll have uh Chief you start with question number one. He'll ask uh 16 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:33,040 » Okay, I'd love to answer the question. Yeah, here we go. Thank you for taking 17 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:37,439 care of me. What do you see the most three important 18 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:43,079 issues facing our city over the next year to 18 months and how would you help 19 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,079 to address them? 20 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:51,880 » Question. I love it. Did you want to go first? Okay. I say I'll rock paper 21 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,880 scissor for you if you want. Okay. 22 00:01:53,759 --> 00:02:04,719 I would say that as from the boardman uh goals that I can see in front of me, uh 23 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:09,759 a lot of people recognize that growth is the biggest challenge both in making 24 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:14,640 sure it happens but also trying to protect the residents desires that are 25 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:18,640 already here. And so it's a double-edged sword, right? We want growth. We want 26 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:22,959 the jobs. We would love the tax money. All of these things are good things, but 27 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:26,560 the flip side of that coin is the residents and their desire for a small 28 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:31,120 town and enjoying that feel of community, right? So that's that 29 00:02:28,959 --> 00:02:38,160 conflict, that tension that can be really hard to address. Um, how would I 30 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:43,440 address it? Well, I think having been here in Boardman for about 15 years, uh, 31 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,959 been raising my kids here, so I have kids that have been going through the 32 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:53,040 school district, so I and also being a small business owner who has at times 33 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:57,599 struggled in responsiveness from the city. I think I'm well adapted to 34 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:02,560 understand a lot of different perspectives. Um, so I don't know how I 35 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,720 would necessarily address it because the issue po pops up in a lot of different 36 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:11,360 ways. Um, so depending on whether we're talking about, you know, water or 37 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:19,440 electricity or power or internet like each one has its own conundrum. So, 38 00:03:16,239 --> 00:03:24,239 uh, hopefully with learning all sides, I would address it. 39 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:29,519 » Thank you. >> So, I kind of have similar answers. Um, 40 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:33,519 growth is the number one thing that I see right now. And it one thing that I 41 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:38,959 think is really important is that we want to grow and we want to improve and 42 00:03:36,239 --> 00:03:43,280 we want to be better, but we don't want to just build things and fix things just 43 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:49,120 because they're there. I want to plan, have an 44 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:53,840 idea, think about the future, think about our growth in kind of a 45 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:58,720 conservation kind of way. Not just spending money wherever we see fit, but 46 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:03,519 really conserving the money that we have now and thinking about the future. What 47 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:08,080 can we do now to fix fix now and what can we plan for in the future? Like we 48 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:12,239 were talking about the police station, that's going to be a 25 year project. 49 00:04:10,212 --> 00:04:18,000 [clears throat] you know, that is really setting us up for the future and 50 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:22,680 conservation of water, our electricity, um, and just the development of 51 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,680 Boardman. 52 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:32,000 » You want you can read it. >> Uh, Heather, would you like to ask the 53 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:36,639 second one? >> So, given the city's limited tax base 54 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:43,800 and budget, where would you prioritize increasing or reducing funding and why? 55 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,800 So, 56 00:04:44,479 --> 00:04:50,400 like we've talked about before with the water, increasing water and kind of 57 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:56,320 making that more as a cost because right now we're in a deficit and so I know 58 00:04:52,560 --> 00:05:02,560 that we're on a ladder to increase, but kind of operating that even just at cost 59 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:07,280 I think would be a huge difference. Um, and then prioritizing those cres dollars 60 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:14,880 because they are unpredictable. Um, as for reduced funding, I don't see 61 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:21,639 anywhere where we really should be cutting back on money. So, 62 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,639 that's important. 63 00:05:23,919 --> 00:05:31,919 Um, I will admit that I come into this not 64 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:40,400 knowing where Boardman has been spending its money. So I will fully admit that 65 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:47,080 without seeing having a better information. Um I can't really answer 66 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:47,080 this question. 67 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:56,720 » All right. The council sometimes must make decisions that are unpopular with 68 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:00,160 residents. How would you communicate those 69 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:07,199 decisions and respond to the community's concerns? 70 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:13,360 So one thing that I see a lot is that maybe the communication between what 71 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:16,800 we're doing here and what the people are understanding is not really 72 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:19,759 communicated. Um you know these are public meetings and a lot of people 73 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:24,800 don't come to them. So maybe it would be a good idea to put out little clips or 74 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:29,039 announcements at at the end of each meeting and be like, "Hey, this is kind 75 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:32,880 of what we talked about kind of like a after agenda like, hey, this is what we 76 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:35,680 talked about. This is kind of where we're going." Just for the people to 77 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:39,199 know and then that's really how you're going to get feedback is putting that 78 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:44,240 out there to those people. You know, nobody wants to, you know, I do this for 79 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:48,160 fun. People don't want to sit and watch a two hour, three hour Zoom meeting kind 80 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:52,319 of flip through where if we were kind of putting something out and saying this is 81 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,680 kind of what we talked about. These are the decisions that we're going to come 82 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,520 back to later on and if people want to come then they know that that's coming 83 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,080 up or that if they see a project that they're interested in that that's 84 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:06,240 something that they're going to keep their eyes on. And just kind of really 85 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:10,400 getting that feedback from what people want besides just the people that we see 86 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,400 every day and that are coming to these meetings. 87 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:22,319 Um, so the business my husband and I own is a mobile home park and that's 88 00:07:19,919 --> 00:07:29,039 relevant because quite frequently we make decisions that are wildly unpopular 89 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:36,240 and we get feedback. Um, and so the best way I found is 90 00:07:32,479 --> 00:07:40,960 you listen and people can if people have an easier time accepting what a decision 91 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:45,680 is if they feel like you really understand what they're saying and where 92 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:48,880 they're coming from. Um, that doesn't change your decision. Or maybe it'll 93 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:54,319 influence you moving down the road perhaps. Absolutely. And you should take 94 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:59,520 those into account. But uh once a decision, a policy has been enacted, 95 00:07:57,599 --> 00:08:03,599 that's the bottom line, right? This is where we are. Um and that doesn't mean 96 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:08,560 you and I can't work together to make changes, but at the same time, this is 97 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:16,240 where it is. So giving opport people an opportunity to be heard. Um often 98 00:08:13,599 --> 00:08:19,800 helps them feel like they've been seen at the very least. 99 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:29,840 » Well, thank you. It's always uh uh good to see people who are willing to step 100 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:35,839 into the firing zone. Um I re I uh commend you. I will say that this has uh 101 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:43,919 weighed heavy on me for the last couple weeks since I got the packet and uh 102 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:48,959 because I know both of you and that's what makes it tough. 103 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,040 you can [laughter] I don't need to arm wrestler for it. 104 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:58,240 It's not >> I'm just saying that it it it as a uh as 105 00:08:55,040 --> 00:09:03,519 a a person I'm the mayor, but as a counselor up here, um I think we're all 106 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:07,519 weighing um we're all humans. We don't like hurting people's feelings unless 107 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:15,839 you're other people who are just evil. But um 108 00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:20,800 we care about people's feelings and uh so it's been weighing heavy on me on 109 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:24,399 which way to go. Uh I know that since I've been doing 110 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:30,240 this for this is my sixth year we've I have 111 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:36,080 always weighed heavy on the individual who has participated in the council 112 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:42,160 meetings who has participated in uh attendance things like that. U being 113 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:50,720 on committees and things kind of like what your husband does. 114 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:56,720 And uh so for me um my vote is going to be uh 115 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:59,760 for Isabelle. >> Are we at that stage? 116 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:02,000 » Are we at that stage? >> Yeah, because there's no questions. 117 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,959 » Okay. >> We already asked her questions. 118 00:10:03,279 --> 00:10:07,120 » Not allowed to ask any additional questions. Oh, 119 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:10,560 » okay. >> Unless we ask them both. 120 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,200 » Exactly. >> But usually we go with just the three 121 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,079 questions. That was correct in that 122 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:24,399 » that is what we did the last time. You are correct. 123 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:27,600 » Prior to that I think when I was on the other side I think I had every counselor 124 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,480 ask a question. >> Oh yeah there was a stack of questions 125 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,839 back then. >> There were more than 126 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,839 » there was more than two candidates. That's fine. 127 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,240 » You did you can ask another question if you'd like. 128 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,160 » I think it was just Well, Mayor Kefir said no. 129 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:44,880 » No. >> Not asking any more questions. We 130 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:46,880 already have our three questions. Yeah. 131 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:51,440 » So, Mayor Kefir, would you like me to do a roll call vote? 132 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:55,839 » Yes, please. >> Okay. Councelor Hughes 133 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:58,640 » Gonzalez. >> Councelor Bombgartner 134 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:03,920 » Gonzalez. >> Councelor Profett Isabel. 135 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:09,040 Councelor Quus. >> Isabelle. 136 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:15,967 » And Mayor Kefir. >> But I appreciate you. I appreciate you. 137 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:17,987 » Yes, Mary. Thank you. [laughter] 138 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:26,000 » So, with that, we'll go right to the next part. Isabelle, we're going to 139 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:30,640 swear you in. >> Mayor Keeper, 140 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:36,320 » Mayor Kefir, we need to make a motion to appoint and then we can swear her in. 141 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:40,000 » We got to do that. >> We need to do that. Okay. I move to 142 00:11:38,079 --> 00:11:44,000 appoint Isabella Gonzalez as a council member for the remainder of the term 143 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:47,279 ending December 31st, 2026. >> Second. 144 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,079 » I got a motion in a second. Is there any discussion? 145 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,800 » All in favor say I. >> I. 146 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:59,120 » I. Any oppose? >> Okay. Now I can swear you in. 147 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:01,680 So after I swear you in, you get to uh choose your position. 148 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:06,320 » Or >> Yeah. The one that's open. 149 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:12,160 » The open one. We'll help him here. I'll give you my 150 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:15,560 copy and I'll have a copy and plus I need my castes. 151 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:29,760 » So, it's going to say I state my name. >> I state my name. 152 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:33,200 » Say your name. >> Okay. So, I will say I and then you'll 153 00:12:31,839 --> 00:12:36,800 just state your name. >> Raise your right hand. I, 154 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,160 » Isabelle Gonzalez, >> do solemnly swear that 155 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:45,800 » I will support the Constitution. >> No, you need to say repeat. So, you're 156 00:12:41,839 --> 00:12:45,800 gonna repeat after me. 157 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:51,279 » That was a good We'll start going. I >> Isabelle Gonzalez 158 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:55,040 » do solemnly swear that >> Do solemnly swear that 159 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:58,320 » I will support the Constitution and laws of the United States. 160 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:01,600 » I will support the Constitution and the laws of the United States. 161 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:06,000 » I will support the Constitution and the laws of the state of Oregon. I will 162 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,800 support the constitution and the laws of the state of Oregon. 163 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:12,399 » I will support the charter and the ordinances of the city of Boardman. 164 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:16,160 » I will support the charter and the ordinances of the city of Boardman. 165 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:19,920 » And I will to the best of my ability faithfully perform the duties of the 166 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:24,000 city council member of the city of Boardman. So help me God. 167 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:28,880 » And I will to the best of my ability faithfully perform the duties of a city 168 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:32,440 council member of the city of Boardman. So help me God. 169 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:42,120 You bet. Now, you can post it right there and we'll have your certificate 170 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,120 next. 171 00:13:52,240 --> 00:14:01,680 So, also for uh just a little notice, she's filling in 172 00:13:58,959 --> 00:14:04,680 and her term will end December 31st, 2026. 173 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:23,440 Committee report. Housing Advisory Committee. 174 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:27,839 » Okay, we have Mr. Wildfire is on. 175 00:14:26,079 --> 00:14:31,560 » Take it away, Nathan. >> You guys hear me? Okay. 176 00:14:32,079 --> 00:14:39,040 » Yes, we hear you. >> Yeah, give me a verbal. Thanks, Brandon. 177 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:44,480 All right. Hi, everybody. Um, since I last met you, our housing advisory 178 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:51,279 committee has met uh weighed in on your tax reimbursement uh incentive plan that 179 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:57,440 I've spoken to you about multiple times. Did the next iteration of the Colombia 180 00:14:53,600 --> 00:15:02,959 View master plan. Um and then also began work on the feedback we got from our uh 181 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:08,000 developer session where we invited about 12 different developers and land owners 182 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:12,639 to give some advice to the city on what what are some lowhanging fruit to 183 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:16,720 change. Um one of the things that I'm here to talk the primary thing I'm here 184 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:23,440 to talk to you about is timeline timeline for the development projects 185 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:28,160 within the Colombia View master plan. Um, I've been getting a lot of uh 186 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:34,560 questions from both committee members and staff and a few counselors. When 187 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:40,399 when do things have to happen in order for housing development to occur on the 188 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:46,320 Columbia View site? What are the important steps and what order they come 189 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:51,440 in? And so, a lot of people wonder about zoning changes. A lot of people wonder 190 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:56,399 about finalizing the plat plat. A lot of people wonder about when does the 191 00:15:52,880 --> 00:16:03,519 infrastructure work finish or um when do we surplus land that sort of thing and 192 00:15:59,839 --> 00:16:08,240 so uh Brandon asked me to come and give our advice from the housing advisory 193 00:16:05,759 --> 00:16:12,560 committee about how this might go and us as the missing middle housing fund who 194 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:18,639 are your housing adviserss. I invited Gary Reic. Gary wave. Uh I don't know if 195 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:25,839 anybody everyone can see Gary. Gary is our designer and architect helping to 196 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:30,880 lead the u the design for the Columbia View Master Plan. And so I wanted to 197 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:38,000 walk you through a few slides um that we have ready for you to illustrate uh the 198 00:16:34,399 --> 00:16:43,920 different u paths that we can go. You've seen some of these things um in plan 199 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,600 form. Can everyone see that? Give me a verbal. 200 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:51,519 » Yes. >> Okay, great. Uh so what you've seen 201 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:59,120 before is over here on the eastern side of the uh paper. Um this is Olsen Road 202 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:04,959 and this is where we would have a new public amphitheater that spills down 203 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:10,079 onto the new Fourth Street with public parking underneath 204 00:17:07,679 --> 00:17:16,880 uh retail that would be on this entire big mega block. So, you'd have retail on 205 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:21,439 the Olsen Road level and you'd have parking underneath and a big set of 206 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:25,360 steps that comes down to the uh plaza below. You've all seen images of this 207 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:30,559 before. [snorts] Over here on the far left, that's a 208 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:37,679 cottage cluster. So, a cottage cluster just means smaller homes arranged around 209 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:42,559 a central commons or green that is shared by all of the different uh homes. 210 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:47,600 They typically are a little bit smaller in size. They typically are sold for a 211 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:52,640 lesser price point than some of the things you see currently for sale in 212 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:56,960 Boardman. The intention is that they are starter homes, which we've heard again 213 00:17:54,799 --> 00:18:01,840 and again and again from this council and from the committee uh are things 214 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:07,039 that are lacking in Boardman. Up on the top on Boardman Avenue, the new vision 215 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:11,600 would be to have a series of town homes. We've shown you pictures of what those 216 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:17,280 might look like before. But those again would be home ownership and accessible 217 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:22,080 to uh middle-income families, folks that are again have buying their first house, 218 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:25,919 that sort of thing. A change that we're going to tell you 219 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:30,000 about today is that originally we thought this would be apartments. And so 220 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:34,240 as you kind of get towards the central core of the site, the buildings get a 221 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:39,840 little bit bigger. Maybe they're three-story walk up apartments. But 222 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:45,679 we've been hearing uh a lot of feedback lately from both committee members and 223 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:51,760 counselors uh that h home ownership ought to be the thing that we prioritize 224 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:59,919 along with senior housing. So these buildings here 6 7 and 8 9 10 225 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:04,640 12 13 14 we are reconsidering whether or not those could be uh home ownership 226 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:10,080 zones much like the town homes or maybe something different but a home ownership 227 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:14,240 option with this building 11 retained as sort of the senior housing piece that 228 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,400 empties right out onto the central commons. 229 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:23,840 So, we wanted to talk a little bit about the importance of planning. Uh, because 230 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:29,760 again, Brandon had said, you know, when do when do certain things have to happen 231 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:36,720 in order for us to get projects to just begin and then get across the finish 232 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:42,000 line? And the order of things matters. You have processes. You have not done a 233 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:48,400 master plan in your city since the main street master plan in the 80s, but you 234 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:52,960 do have these processes. We have one chance to get this right and grow the 235 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:58,240 right way. We just heard from your city council candidates about growth. That 236 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:02,960 was a primary issue I heard from uh both folks. How do we grow the right way is 237 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:09,440 something that the housing advisory committee talks about a lot. And for 238 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:14,720 them, the sense of place, the quality of the housing, something they can be proud 239 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:22,240 of, and the livability really, really matter. You have to get that right 240 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:26,720 before you begin to build. So, we want to do things that enhance your city and 241 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:32,960 make it better. You don't need to surplus your land 242 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:39,919 first. You don't need to update your zoning code. You don't even need to uh 243 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:45,440 finalize your plats in order to have a great plan in place. 244 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:48,640 The plan is the thing that is going to attract your development community. 245 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:54,080 Well, let's be real, some good incentives. But the plan is the thing 246 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:59,840 that ties it all together and creates this new sense of place in this section 247 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:06,320 of Boardman. Something that makes you stand out on the map. An RFQ stands for 248 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:10,559 request for qualifications. It's like a request for proposals, but you're just 249 00:21:08,159 --> 00:21:15,919 trying to see who's interested. Who would want to be a part of this plan? 250 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:20,400 Who would want to build cottage cluster homes? Who would want to build town 251 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:26,799 homes on Boardman Avenue? Who would want to build forale houses on a new central 252 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:33,520 green or central commons that goes to your new amphitheater? 253 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:39,440 I'm here to tell you that you want as many brains as possible around your 254 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:46,080 table in Boardman. And if you are very clear about your goals, 255 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:51,679 your incentives, your parameters, right? What they can't do, what you don't want. 256 00:21:49,679 --> 00:21:58,400 If you have clear timelines and clear tools, you will get responses. 257 00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:04,480 Don't forget, you have a housing fund. You own the land. You are putting in new 258 00:22:02,159 --> 00:22:12,240 infrastructure, streets, roads, sewer, water. Right now, you have a very 259 00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:18,559 attractive place to build. So, we are advising that you tell the world about 260 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:24,880 the opportunity you have and the vision that you have for Boardman and then see 261 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:29,840 who puts their hat in the ring. Our goal is to get these RFQS out in late 262 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:33,840 September after the next housing advisory committee meeting. We want them 263 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:39,520 to take a look at it before it goes out on the street. We want to bring the 264 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:45,200 final master plan back to this council in October. Uh for your comment, for 265 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:51,679 your endorsement, uh we have to talk about what the process is for you to 266 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:57,600 formally adopt a plan. That plan would of course show the vision, show the 267 00:22:54,080 --> 00:23:01,440 parameters, um, but also tell you about what it's going to cost to do these 268 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:05,840 public improvements. You have an urban renewal district right 269 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:10,000 there that can help bear some of the cost of that. Uh, but you're going to 270 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:16,240 need a phasing plan and an economic analysis. Does this plan actually work? 271 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:22,000 Does it bring the returns back to the city that you need after you invested in 272 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:27,360 the land? Does it actually build things that folks in Boardman and moving to 273 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:32,559 Boardman want and are willing to pay for? You can't just build things that 274 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:37,280 nobody actually wants to rent or buy. So, we have to be very, very thoughtful 275 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:41,760 about what we're proposing, how much it costs, and whether it meets your market 276 00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:48,799 conditions. And by the way, it should go without saying all of it has to be 277 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:54,159 additive of your sense of place, your character, your culture. That's why you 278 00:23:52,240 --> 00:24:01,200 have the housing committee and a city council to ensure that it all happens 279 00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:05,679 the right way. Up like bullet point one, the plats, and I'm going to show you uh 280 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:11,279 what those are in a minute. uh those would be updated in November reflective 281 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:15,919 of the plan you would adopt in October. You would choose development partners in 282 00:24:13,679 --> 00:24:20,720 December based on the responses you got back in October and November. 283 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:26,080 You would be updating your zoning code to actually allow you to build the 284 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:30,480 things you want to build in January, part of your comprehensive plan and 285 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:34,799 zoning code update. Meanwhile, the your chosen developers would be assembling 286 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:39,279 their project financing, finalizing deal terms with the city since again you own 287 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:43,840 the land. And then you would actually surplus the land at that point because 288 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:50,320 you know who's going to build what and when it gets warm, you start building. 289 00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:56,320 So this is, you know, what we have uh before you. The plat as they are being 290 00:24:54,080 --> 00:25:02,080 recorded right now don't necessarily account for this forale piece on the 291 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:06,720 south of Boardorman Avenue nor are is the plat quite big enough to 292 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:11,679 fit the cottage cluster we've been contemplating in the southwest corner of 293 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:16,880 the plan. So rather than rush the plats that we were uh that we planned eight 294 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:21,760 months ago before this plan was really that far along, uh we're going to get it 295 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:27,279 right and do it in November reflective of this plan. These are uh in the yellow 296 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:32,880 three zones where we're now reconsidering whether these are 297 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:37,200 apartment buildings or another flavor of home ownership. 298 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:42,080 Uh, I'm guessing the folks on Third Street are going to take a very keen 299 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:45,919 interest in what happens here. U, but there might be an opportunity to have 300 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:52,080 yet more home ownership, especially attainable home ownership, a product 301 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:56,159 that's often lacking in your uh, city uh, built here. Uh, Gary and I are 302 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:01,039 running the analysis on that and seeing if that makes sense uh, financially and 303 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:06,720 from a plan perspective. But this would then also reflect newer plats that you 304 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:11,919 would be updating. Your committee went through this uh at their meeting this uh 305 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:17,120 past month in August. The cottage cluster in the southwest corner would be 306 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:22,400 the first thing kind of off off to the off to the presses. uh for sale 307 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:26,880 attainable middle- inome pricing the you know starter homes is another word for 308 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:33,840 this again around a a central space that's shared two spaces per unit that's 309 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:39,919 parking uh we'd we'd send this RFQ out um late September to figure out who are 310 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:45,120 good cottage cluster developers across Oregon that would have an interest in 311 00:26:42,159 --> 00:26:49,520 your plan in your city and then we would set up a process by which you could 312 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:54,640 choose what are the best development partners and what's the best plan coming 313 00:26:52,080 --> 00:27:00,000 forward in accordance with what you want. Same thing up on Boardman Avenue. 314 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:04,320 It doesn't all have to be all at once. We've thought about a lot like do we 315 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:10,159 have multiple developers that have a common design playbook but could uh 316 00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:16,159 essentially lower your risk of putting all of your eggs in one basket and also 317 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:22,720 lead to a diversity of housing both product design style price points. So it 318 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:29,520 could be you know chunks of this could be different developers. Think of it 319 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:35,120 kind of like that. Similar timeline as before as the other ones. Um, and then 320 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:39,120 this is kind of what we're looking at here in the red circle. We think that 321 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:43,279 that could be sort of a signature building on the end of your central 322 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:48,240 commons. Something that really stands out and creates a sense of place. That 323 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:51,679 could be uh a senior housing um opportunity. could be more than just 324 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:56,000 that one building, by the way, for senior housing, but that's just the 325 00:27:53,600 --> 00:28:00,640 latest thinking. And then what we had shown previously as apartment buildings, 326 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:07,360 we're starting to wonder whether those could be again home ownership fronting 327 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:10,799 your central commons. Um the reason the original plan worked so well 328 00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:17,279 economically is that we are packing a lot of units into a smaller space which 329 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:21,600 generally brings a greater uh return for sale of land to the city. So we have to 330 00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:29,600 make sure that the city is making back its capital with whatever plan uh 331 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:34,559 ultimately gets proposed. Um, I've heard from a lot of you many, many times. We 332 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:39,440 know what we don't want in Boardman. We've seen what we don't 333 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:45,279 want. We don't want properties that are poorly maintained. We don't want 334 00:28:42,159 --> 00:28:51,600 properties that have bad design and fall apart too soon. 335 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:58,000 We want buildings and homes and sense of place that preserves and grows our 336 00:28:55,279 --> 00:29:02,240 character and is a place that the folks who already live in Boardman can be 337 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:07,120 proud of and your new neighbors moving in uh feel like they're the luckiest 338 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:13,279 folks in the world to have landed in your city. We know that. 339 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:17,200 So, this was the group activity we did as a housing committee last time. Um, 340 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:22,080 you can you'll see people's names in here like Bobby or Ricardo or Gary or 341 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:27,679 Mike or Brenda. These are some of the things that people um talked a lot 342 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:34,000 about. What's the right price point? Folks would love it if there were things 343 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:38,880 sold in the 300s in your city that that felt like a really really great design. 344 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:39,600 There is a trade-off. >> Yeah. 345 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:44,480 » Yeah. >> There's a trade-off, right, between 346 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:48,080 square footage and price. Um, unless you have extraordinary 347 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,840 subsidies, uh, it's very hard to meet certain price 348 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:56,799 points, especially in a place where there are few contractors, 349 00:29:53,919 --> 00:30:01,360 um, and shipping is high. Gary and I will tell you, we're building housing in 350 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:06,880 Newberg right now, so we know exactly how much it costs to build housing. 351 00:30:04,399 --> 00:30:12,000 Interest rates have a lot to do with the affordability and the cost. Um, and the 352 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,840 big question everyone keeps asking, why does it cost less to buy more in 353 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:20,640 Hermiston? So, we got to get to the bottom of that, right? 354 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:27,440 Diversity of options. Uh, what we hear again and again, um, we want multiple 355 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:33,919 choice. We don't want a cookie cutter unit that happens 100, 200 times in 356 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:41,440 Boardman. We want choice. We want to have um designs that can be 357 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:44,640 replicated but also seem unique and create a sense of place. The best 358 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:51,200 neighborhoods everybody on the committee has been to are places that have 359 00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:52,480 different buildings on each block. Um, 360 00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:55,279 » Nathan. >> Yeah, 361 00:30:52,880 --> 00:31:00,880 » Nathan, just the I just want to point out um the I I think that you're just um 362 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:05,760 summarizing what what people on the committee said, but that kind of sounded 363 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:09,679 like a contradiction, right? Because the reason the cookie cutters exist is 364 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:14,480 because it significantly lowers the cost. 365 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,559 » Nailed it. You got it. So, what do you do? 366 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:21,679 » Right. >> Right. So, that's that's our job. Our 367 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:27,120 job is to figure out how we can deliver homes at affordable prices while 368 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:33,039 preserving character and diversity. You you you nailed the trade-off. You nailed 369 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:39,120 it. Um you can create a variety of a look within a cluster but still have the 370 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:45,279 guts of a house be predominantly the same. Um and again, what are the 371 00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:51,760 incentives that the city can offer that help defay cost or time? Some of those 372 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:55,440 could be things like subordinating the cost of the land, like a developer 373 00:31:53,519 --> 00:32:01,840 doesn't actually pay you for the land until the homes sell. That's a that's a 374 00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:06,640 big incentive for a developer um that reduces their risk and increases their 375 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:12,720 ability to get financing uh but ultimately can help lower cost, right? 376 00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:18,080 You as a city can make loans. You can make investments. You can make grants 377 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:23,600 with your housing fund to help defay cost. You already are installing 378 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:29,360 infrastructure throughout a lot of this site. That's already a huge u defay of 379 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:35,852 certain costs. You have your urban renewal district which can help pay for 380 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:40,720 some of this pre-development work. [snorts] I'm going to keep going. You 381 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:47,279 guys are good readers. Parking. We talked a lot about parking. Uh rural 382 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:54,240 cities typically uh need two spaces per unit. When you start getting less than 383 00:32:49,919 --> 00:33:00,320 that, it becomes harder to sell your uh forale products. So, it's just more 384 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:05,600 common to have uh multiple places to put your car. 385 00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:11,120 for creating retail and park space, the parking demand just got bigger. I've 386 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:15,600 said this many times. Uh you've got to make sure you've got a way that you're 387 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:20,960 breaking even on your land. And by the way, some of the things that Gary is 388 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:26,399 proposing aren't actually possible with your current city code. So, your zoning 389 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:32,480 code has to be updated. That process is underway right now. You don't have to 390 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:38,480 have your code updated to tell developers about what you're updating it 391 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:44,159 to. You can get them excited about your plan and the opportunity to build in 392 00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:50,000 your city before you actually have your zoning codes completely finished. So, we 393 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:55,200 we would be an advocate for keep doing your process, keep updating your 394 00:33:51,679 --> 00:33:59,600 comprehensive plan and your zoning code. And then could this be an opportunity 395 00:33:57,919 --> 00:34:04,720 since there might be so much happening all at once to test out improvements or 396 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:10,399 streamlining or efficiencies with your permitting system. 397 00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:13,520 Okay, this is the the same slide from the very beginning and I'm going to 398 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:22,079 pause here because I asked Gary to join us to um to to reiterate why having a 399 00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:26,639 plan matters. If you don't know Gary, here's Gary Re 400 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:32,399 from Iris Design. >> I didn't I just unmuted myself. I 401 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:39,599 thought that might help. Um, you know, I was thinking uh earlier today um though 402 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:45,839 Nathan and I got officially under contract in April. We were working with 403 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:52,560 the city on the contract going back and forth between January and April, but we 404 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:56,879 were also huddling clear back in October about the prospect that this work might 405 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:00,160 be coming forward. And at that time, I got my hands on 406 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,800 what [clears throat] I think was an inrogress 407 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:09,599 document from Cascadia. Really well put together color. 408 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:17,119 I don't know, it might have had a 100 pages in it. Uh but one section in there 409 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:22,720 particularly was uh of interest to me and that was the four 410 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:27,359 um workshop community workshops that were 411 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:34,320 held through the summer. I think there were in total 7 or 800 people that 412 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:38,480 signed up in for those within those four workshops. 413 00:35:35,839 --> 00:35:44,079 And so there was a lot of listing in there about the comments about what 414 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:49,599 people wanted with their city. And I've worked with a lot of cities. I I came 415 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:56,160 from a great small town. I moved to a another great small town. I I know what 416 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:59,839 kind of ingredients it takes to make a place that people really want to stay 417 00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:06,880 in. And [clears throat] and so one of the one of the the uh notes in there was 418 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:11,680 kind of listing here's what here's what were people were quoting they were 419 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:17,280 wanting. And one of them forever more has is has uh has kind of been my 420 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:22,720 guiding light. And this person said I want Boardman to 421 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:27,040 be so nice and attractive that my kids will want to come back here after 422 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:32,240 college. if [clears throat] 423 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:37,119 that that sentence has been my inspiration, you know, right up to this 424 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:41,440 moment and and beyond. And so, you know, in the tools that I have in the 425 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:44,240 experience that I have, um, [clears throat] I could, you know, I 426 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:49,280 said long ago, I couldn't be more excited because I thought I I had some 427 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:54,480 experience that I could bring to this situation and make a difference. And so 428 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:58,480 in a way I kind of become part of Boardman 429 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:04,160 uh in a in a feeling of ownership and owning the kind of places I would make 430 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:07,119 if I wanted to live there. And so [clears throat] that's that's 431 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:12,960 what we've been doing over the last few months. And uh and we're getting close 432 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:18,480 to talking about, you know, what is what is phase one? What are the first pieces 433 00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:22,000 of the plan that get implemented? What might it look like? And we've 434 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:26,240 [clears throat] had those conversations, Nate and I, and others, 435 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:33,040 you know, within the last few days. And I So, I guess I would um leave you with, 436 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:38,240 not that I need to, you can come back and and ask me questions, but I'd leave 437 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:43,280 you with kind of a mantra of mine in doing this kind of work and seeing what 438 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:49,760 to do and what not to do. And I think what you'll always hear from me is do 439 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:56,160 something great first. The alternative is you do something 440 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:59,760 mediocre first and the rest of the community and and people that are 441 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:05,920 watching it from afar and from other communities that will be whatever you do 442 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:11,920 first is going to be a big message of the vision and and hope 443 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:15,160 that you have for in a way building this new town. 444 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:23,680 » So that was thanks Gary. Um, oh that's the end. So Brandon, I think one of the 445 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:29,680 things that you had wanted to make sure folks were comfortable with was the 446 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:36,400 notion that we would ensure that the plat are in uh concurrent with the the 447 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:42,400 current thinking on the plan. Is that right? 448 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:47,280 » Yeah. So um I I hope every because again I I I 449 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:51,440 become the middleman. I I get the I get the discussions that people come to me 450 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:57,280 and and I share that with Nathan and and I hope everyone is hearing the fact that 451 00:38:54,240 --> 00:39:00,800 people want homes to sell. He absolutely has addressed that. The other thing we 452 00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:05,760 talked about was abs having a clear timeline. Again, I get very frustrated 453 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:10,640 and I share my thoughts with Nathan because I I do I want it like let's go, 454 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:16,400 let's dig it. Um but also we need to make sure you guys 455 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:23,359 are okay with that process. So like he said the original plat which is not 456 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:29,359 complete yet we thought let's pull back so we can do it exactly how we would 457 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:35,520 then go surplus it. And if you're okay with that please understand that the 458 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:40,640 plat process it has to go to planning commission again 459 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:45,280 they approve it or don't and then there's a review process. Carla, don't 460 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:51,440 jump in. And then there's a review process and then it like the planning 461 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:56,960 commission has to approve this. I mean, it it takes a while and we have to have 462 00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:01,920 35 days to take it to the planning commission. So to our planning 463 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:07,839 commission. So there really is like set guidelines that take months to do, but 464 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:12,400 we just felt we needed to come back because the plat was we're going to have 465 00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:17,920 to go and replplat it anyway. So, if you're okay with that timeline and that 466 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:21,920 process, the hope is to have maybe a little more clear plat. I mean, do you 467 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,680 guys want the whole plat just like exactly how we're going to go and 468 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:30,160 surplus it, which puts a little more in the design? 469 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:34,079 » I jump in. Remember, like you don't have to slow down 470 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:41,520 just because you're going through this plat finalization process. You can still 471 00:40:37,359 --> 00:40:47,280 be telling the world what your plan is for the plat, what your plan is for the 472 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:51,440 zoning, and assemble the correct development partners, 473 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:55,440 their financing, their partners and investors. Like, it 474 00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:59,359 can all happen >> at the same time. 475 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:03,200 » Yeah. Don't don't think like if you're just because it takes a while to do your 476 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:07,839 plats and your zoning, that doesn't mean you hit timeout on everything else. 477 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:11,440 » Oh, no. Not by any means, but in order for us to surplus the property, it has 478 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,960 to go through the plat has to be approved. That's several months out. I 479 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:20,480 mean, I think right now Carl and I visited if we did it now, it would have 480 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:27,280 the plat would have to be a preliminary design by next week in order to make it 481 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:32,720 to the October meeting, then get it to the council or the county by December, 482 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:37,280 then we would surplus it by January. I don't think that's going to happen. So 483 00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:41,119 that's the process. We can't we cannot surplus it and sell it until it goes 484 00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:44,480 through the plat. But you're right, like all of this is still going to go on. 485 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:48,720 He's going to do the RFQ. >> You're not going to start building 486 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:53,119 anything in January anyway. So like, you know, if you found developers tomorrow, 487 00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:56,960 they wouldn't start building until the spring anyhow. So 488 00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:02,160 » yeah, but it does just take time. So if you like I just need some guidance like 489 00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:06,240 do you want the whole thing platted? So it is how hey this is how we're going to 490 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:12,800 sell it which will go back. >> I'm just going to say from me it's going 491 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:16,960 way too slow. Okay. And I'm just but I know that I'm goal oriented and I want 492 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:22,800 you know I got something on my list. I want to get it done. I've only been on 493 00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:27,520 the committee for a few minutes you know but it's too too slow. 494 00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:29,920 » And again that is like trying to help you. 495 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:34,079 » All I'm saying is let's keep it moving. Don't put any touch the brakes. 496 00:42:32,564 --> 00:42:39,760 [laughter] >> Yeah, I've been hounding Nathan from the 497 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:44,560 beginning about the details. Um because I want to put buildings on 498 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:47,839 the ground right away on the same page. Keep rolling. 499 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:53,839 » Absolutely. Please. >> I do want to work on that price point 500 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:56,560 though. I think 300 and 325 is too high. >> Yeah. 501 00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:01,119 » And I second that. Um I did a quick search um just on Windendemir and we 502 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:05,680 currently have seven properties for sale here in Boardman. All over,200 square 503 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:10,400 feet, threebedroom, two sometimes some three bathrooms, all have garages 504 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:14,480 between 300 and 330,000 seven. So we need to find a lower price 505 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:18,240 point because if there's seven properties for sale and we're looking 506 00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:21,880 for something for lower income, we need to be lower than that. 507 00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:31,200 » Cool. you're next in line. 508 00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:36,160 » Paul hears it from me every day. >> But but regardless, I I do think we need 509 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:40,880 to come back and just do make sure the plat is correct. 510 00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:44,960 » So because right now we would if they approve the plat as of right now, we we 511 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:49,040 are going to have to go and send it to a replat because we can't do the cottage 512 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:54,640 cluster. It's not sectioned out the way the housing is. It's just the top of 513 00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:57,920 north of Boardman Avenue. We want them to do them all along and it's not 514 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:03,440 platted like that. >> Yeah. And I think that was your question 515 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:06,480 was just, you know, like are we >> okay 516 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:11,280 » okay with doing that? And I am. >> I don't. Yes. 517 00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:17,359 » Sounds like the consensus is go for it. >> And you does that sound. 518 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:22,319 » I don't like it. >> The what? 519 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:26,960 » I don't like Yeah. I don't like the cottage clusters. 520 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:30,960 Um, I agree with the town homes. I think that if we're going to build town homes 521 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:36,160 and they're going to be $300,000, I'd rather buy a house. 522 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,680 So, if you're going to build the same square footage, same rooms, same 523 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,920 bedrooms. >> Y, 524 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,319 » nobody's going to want to buy that unless they absolutely have to live in 525 00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:47,599 Boardman >> because the houses that we currently 526 00:44:45,839 --> 00:44:49,520 have have lawns. >> Yeah. 527 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:54,560 » And they're on goodsized lots between the 300 and 330,000. Nobody's going to 528 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,960 want to pay that same price for a cottage. 529 00:44:55,359 --> 00:45:01,800 » Your kids can play in the backyard. You can let your dog out that you have a 530 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,800 fence, 531 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:08,480 » which I think is all good feedback for Nathan. But you were just asking about 532 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,440 » the plaid pl >> and again 533 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,160 » with consideration the square footage of the 534 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:18,000 lot too. >> Correct. And that that is the benefit 535 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:22,800 what has been discussed with the cottage clusters is because the purpose of those 536 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:28,160 in my mind again I agree to have it lower but because the like the homes are 537 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:32,960 closer together we're getting more on there so we can bring it lower and I've 538 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:39,119 heard 250 before um >> yeah I'm I'm $75,000 less around the 539 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:44,000 board to 100 grand less. >> That's what I think the cottage cluster 540 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:48,319 benefit would be. and um he put it up there on one of the charts, but uh Gary 541 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:52,960 told us about a gentleman who does cottage clusters in all kinds of sizes 542 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:58,079 and shapes and he doesn't do cookie cutter, but he does something that 543 00:45:55,119 --> 00:46:01,599 allows the guts to be the same and just changes the dormer or the, you know, 544 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:10,319 something on the outside to give it a different feel. Um and his name is Ross 545 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:14,560 Chapen, I think. So those are those were really beautiful designs that we saw 546 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,359 that this guy wrote a whole book about it. So 547 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:22,240 » yeah, and and ultimately when we talk about we bought the land for $4 a square 548 00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:26,480 foot. We are not trying to recoup any of the road costs which is like 4 million. 549 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:30,160 All of the road costs are going to come back through the urban renewal. So 550 00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:34,960 that's great. We really are trying to recoup the three million which should 551 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:42,720 help us with being able to sell that and have a lower price point. Cool. 552 00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:46,800 » Uh it might be helpful just to do some math. 553 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:54,400 So the about the cheapest you can create a house for right now in Oregon is about 554 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:59,920 175 uh bucks a square foot. That's about the cheapest. 555 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:05,119 Uh most are coming in much much higher than that. But let's just pretend you 556 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:12,640 could build it in Boardman for 175 bucks a square foot. and you want a 1,500 ft 557 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:19,920 house, that's already at $262,000 just there. That's not inclusive of land 558 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:25,440 or SDC fees or permitting or the cost of lending. That's just construction. 559 00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:31,280 So, you can see how the cost to just literally create a single 1500 ft home 560 00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:36,880 in today's economic realities gets you above 300 561 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:41,040 really fast. Now, there are ways that you can build homes for a lot less than 562 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:44,800 that, but they typically are the types of 563 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:51,040 homes that I've heard you all say you didn't necessarily want. 564 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:55,440 So, a thing that might um be helpful that I would offer to this council is we 565 00:47:53,520 --> 00:48:01,599 did a um we did like a developer 101 session 566 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:06,560 and we could do that with your local development community uh where we would 567 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:11,839 just do a workshop um for anybody on council that wants to 568 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:19,280 uh to just essentially have several of your local folks uh walk through how how 569 00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:25,359 they create a new unit and what their risk is and what their financing risks 570 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:30,240 are and what their costs are. Um because it it helps it helps create a shared 571 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:36,960 understanding of uh how do we get where we want to get and what are we willing 572 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:42,880 to spend to get there. Uh what what are we not willing to accept from a quality 573 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:46,640 or size standpoint? um 574 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:52,960 the product that you have right now, uh your seven houses, um we'd have to 575 00:48:50,319 --> 00:49:00,440 figure out why are they not selling? Why are they at that price point? We can dig 576 00:48:55,839 --> 00:49:00,440 in. That's that's what we do. 577 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:06,240 So my question is, you know, we're spending a lot of time 578 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:10,319 saying, you know, since we're the council, we get to decide sort of thing. 579 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:14,800 But what if a contractor comes in and goes, I'll build, but I'm not building 580 00:49:12,319 --> 00:49:19,200 any of that stuff. This is what I will build. Now, now what? 581 00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:24,160 » Well, you own the land, so you don't have to sell to anyone unless they build 582 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:27,680 what you want them to build. That would be part of your purchase and sales 583 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:33,040 agreement, right? As you sell your different parcels of land, you would 584 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:39,280 have in the actual sales agreement what a developer is agreeing to actually do. 585 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:42,240 Timelines, financing, you could stipulate price points. 586 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:46,880 » What I'm saying is what if there's nobody out there that wants to do what 587 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:52,160 we want? They're going to come back and say, "Hey, look, I I'll build for you, 588 00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:55,680 but you have to go this direction." You know, 589 00:49:53,440 --> 00:50:03,280 » then you'll have to make a choice. If no one wants no one wants to or can build 590 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:09,680 what you want, it won't get built. >> And um you mentioned something about 591 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:14,240 1500 square ft. Um most of us here that bought our first homes, it was 1,000 592 00:50:12,319 --> 00:50:19,200 square feet. It was a three-bedroom, one bath with a single car garage. That is a 593 00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:24,000 starter home. A 1500T home was the third house that I bought because I worked up 594 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:27,680 to that. So, a 1500 square foot home is not a starter home. 595 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:33,119 » Yeah, that that was just a math problem, but yes, I agree. 596 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:37,200 » Well, and and no, that's good direction. So, the direction is let's work on the 597 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:40,720 plat. We're good with the timing and price point needs to be below like 250 598 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,400 and >> under. 599 00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:46,319 » Okay. I think >> and and again, that's the guidance that 600 00:50:44,319 --> 00:50:51,040 the the housing committee needs to hear. That's what we need to hear and that 601 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:53,440 will take care of that. >> Cool. 602 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,319 Okay. >> Thank you, Nathan. 603 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,640 » You're welcome. >> Have any questions, 604 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:03,359 » comments? >> I was just going to suggest that if 605 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:08,319 Isabelle will look into the Ross Chapen. Uh he did a book called uh Pocket 606 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:12,720 Neighborhoods and he's got lots of pictures online 607 00:51:10,319 --> 00:51:17,280 that you can look at and you can see how he changed the homes and what he did and 608 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,960 what the pocket neighborhood benefit was. Anyway, 609 00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:27,920 » I know we're jumping ahead, but I have an idea for somebody for the housing 610 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:30,960 committee on our action items. >> And thank you too, Gary, for coming. 611 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:35,119 Appreciate that. >> Thanks, Nathan. 612 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:38,520 » Thank you. >> Thank you, Nathan. 613 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:45,280 All right, we're time for the public comment. 614 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:49,119 Public comment period is an essential part of our local government meetings 615 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:53,599 and our council takes community input into consideration. However, in 616 00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:57,680 observance of Oregon open meeting laws, this isn't the time for dialogue, but 617 00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:01,760 rather a time for us to listen to you. Our city manager will direct staff to 618 00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:07,760 follow up with you regarding your comments or questions. Anyone may speak 619 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:13,200 on any topic other than a matter in litigation, a quasi judicial land use 620 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:18,640 matter, or a matter scheduled for public hearing at some future date. Each person 621 00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:23,359 has three minutes to speak. Uh when your name is called, proceed to the podium 622 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:27,520 and speak clearly into the microphone. Begin [clears throat] stating by your 623 00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:31,680 name and address name and address and then express your view or offer your 624 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:36,240 suggestions in a courteous and considerate manner. Remember to direct 625 00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:41,599 all remarks and questions to the council through the mayor. It is not appropriate 626 00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:45,400 to address the audience or the staff. Is there anybody in 627 00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:51,680 person that would like to speak? >> My point where I can get to talk. 628 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,960 » This is your >> could be You're on the left. 629 00:52:53,839 --> 00:53:00,240 » Okay. >> Oh, for uh chamber. 630 00:52:57,119 --> 00:53:07,559 » Yeah, you're later. Yeah. Is there anybody online that would like to 631 00:53:03,839 --> 00:53:07,559 share any comments? 632 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:17,839 Okay. Having seeing none, uh we saw a public comment. You got an email from 633 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:23,920 Jonathan Tolman. I hope everybody had a chance to take a look and read at that. 634 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:29,880 There was a correspondence from the Oregon Rural Action. They sent 635 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,880 a letter. 636 00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:39,359 And then we have the Boardman Chamber of Commerce. It is your monthly report. Is 637 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:43,280 that where you would like to share? Yes, you are. It's your time. 638 00:53:41,839 --> 00:53:45,760 » So, in your packet, I think you guys have the August month. 639 00:53:45,359 --> 00:53:53,200 » Yes. >> Oh, yes. I'm on it. I can handle a mic. 640 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:58,319 Um, but I am going to give you the September one because I'm it's gonna 641 00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:02,640 just give you right there. Um, so the September one's a little different than 642 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:06,880 the August. Uh, so September I just we are going through growth zone. Uh, the 643 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:10,319 chamber has a chamber membership program that it used to be chamber master. It's 644 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:16,720 now growth zone. It's more of a user-friendly um online platform for our 645 00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:20,720 chamber management. And that being said though, if you had to login with the 646 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:24,400 other program, you have to create a whole new program. So, please go find 647 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:28,960 those emails. They coming through the newsletter. They're coming directly from 648 00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:32,720 us. They're we've sent them out numerous times. It's very important because if 649 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:40,640 you don't have that login, you won't be able to um register events, 650 00:54:36,319 --> 00:54:44,480 put on job postings, and uh and uh attend events and different stuff. So, 651 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:48,960 we need that really to be registered and create those accounts. Um, we have an 652 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:53,520 upcoming uh the other thing is we're working on is we're redoing the visitors 653 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:58,880 guide. So, our visitors guide will be coming out in January of 2027. This will 654 00:54:56,559 --> 00:55:01,760 be our guide that is going to go across the state of Oregon to the Travel Oregon 655 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:06,480 welcome centers. We're going to be printing about 20,000 of those guides. 656 00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:10,880 Our current guide is in the Travel Oregon already. We pay about $7,000 to 657 00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:15,680 place that across the state of Oregon. We use some county tourism dollars that 658 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:20,240 we request requested through a grant and that is to promote Boardman and Mororrow 659 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:25,200 County. Inside the guide is an opportunity to advertise your small 660 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:30,800 business and that is to be seen. We are using that as a relocation guide, an 661 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:37,280 adventure guide. Um we're actually promoting the um small 662 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:41,440 businesses to come here to add asset amenities to our housing so we can go 663 00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:46,640 handinhand with our housing with our amenities in our community so we can 664 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:49,599 offer more services and uh also just kind of spotlight our chamber members 665 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:53,920 and everything that they do plus our major events that bring in tourism as in 666 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:59,280 like the fishing tournament that we just held, the end of summer celebration and 667 00:55:56,240 --> 00:56:03,760 the um fourth of July. So, Fourth of July recaps that we received on some 668 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:08,880 data on that, we had a little over 2,000 people and through comm um interviews 669 00:56:06,799 --> 00:56:13,440 that we conducted during the day down there, the majority of the people that 670 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:18,000 stayed at the RV park came from Portland, Seattle, California, and 671 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:22,640 Washington deeper into Washington like Spokane side. So, that is a tourism. So, 672 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:27,040 if you are considering a tourist person, anybody that travels over 60 miles is 673 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:31,119 considered a tourist. So if you want to look at our employment, 30% of our 674 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:35,440 people that drive to Borman every day are tourists. So we get to track them as 675 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:40,880 a tourist. So um we're really trying to flip that script as well as bringing um 676 00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:44,559 62% of our employment comes from out of the area. We're really trying to flip 677 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:47,760 that and get that to be a little heavier on the percentage of living where they 678 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:52,720 work. And that is going handinhand with the development of homes plus retail 679 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:58,079 space and amenities to offer that. So if we can continue to promote our boardman 680 00:56:55,599 --> 00:57:02,400 a place to live and work and Mororrow County then that is working to meet our 681 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:06,720 needs as a chamber as well. So you'll see some funky advertising. Um we have 682 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:11,920 worked really hard with this company. It's called Lunar Cow. They are working 683 00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:15,440 to change their marketing. Um but we are doing majority of the marketing 684 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:20,000 ourselves to get people to place an advertisement in there. We just wrapped 685 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:24,640 up in a summer celebration. That was a big event. It actually ended up being a 686 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:28,160 bigger event than we had planned. Um we it was a night to celebrate the end of 687 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,839 summer celebration but also a time to recognize our fire department and police 688 00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:35,599 department and partnerships with what they are doing to provide services to 689 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:40,319 our community and get to know our police department. Uh we were able to partner 690 00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:45,440 with a couple local food vendors to provide free food and Telmuk came over 691 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:48,640 and provided free ice cream and as everybody can see that they were very 692 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:53,359 busy and they're going to actually revamp how they serve food serve next 693 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,839 year. Last year uh this next year they uh had a little miscommunication and 694 00:57:54,799 --> 00:58:00,079 didn't realize that they were only supposed to do like three ice creams and 695 00:57:57,359 --> 00:58:04,160 scoops but they did everything. Um so bless them for opportunity to providing 696 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:07,200 that. And then we also had the fishing tournament. fishing tournament was a 697 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:11,119 great success. Saturday was a little sketchy for our fishermen. Um I think 698 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:14,880 they kept our fire department very busy on top of everything else that was 699 00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:19,359 happening that day and recovery efforts had to take place even on Sunday. So um 700 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:24,799 but those guys came from all over the US as well and we had a great turnout. We 701 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:31,680 had 61 professional fishermen, 110 fishermen total. They came from all the 702 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:36,400 way from Texas to Nebraska to Canada, all over. They spent pretty much six 703 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:40,160 full days in our community and um reserve spaces in our RV park. So that 704 00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:44,720 was another great tourist opportunity which brought our community which also 705 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:49,119 they spent money at our um gas stations, our restaurants and our hotel years. And 706 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:53,760 we're going to be seeing an uptick in that. They are looking to host another 707 00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:58,720 super 60 next year which is another the next level of the tournament above what 708 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:02,480 they did this year. So there's a proam this year. Next year it's going to be a 709 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:08,799 super 60. It's one of their top six um pro events they're going to host here. 710 00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:14,319 Uh the winner bagged 20 lbs of fish on Friday, 20 pounds of fish on Saturday, 711 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:17,920 and 18 pounds of fish on Sunday. Even with the high winds, he was able to. He 712 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:22,160 was a local guy out of Tri Cities. And then our amateur guy was one of the guys 713 00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:27,280 from the local area as well. So, it was exciting to see that. But, um and then 714 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:33,839 we had the kids fishing thing event on Sunday. We had 210 kids come down and 715 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:37,119 get free rods and reels. And then the pro fishermen that were not 716 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:42,559 participating in the championship sat and tied um hooks on and put worms on. 717 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:46,160 And we had a slew of kids that come down. They've never fished a day in 718 00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:51,200 their life. Got to sit out on the dock. And I was I did not realize this, but 719 00:59:48,799 --> 00:59:55,520 our little dock, you throw it in the and you're going to catch a fish like this 720 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:58,240 fast. And so the pros were having fun down there. So they went back and 721 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,440 actually we ran out of worms and ran out of stuff to support the kids. So they 722 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,280 ran back to their boats, pulled out their private stuff and used their 723 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:09,599 personal stuff to support the kids and sat right there and took the hooks and 724 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:14,640 took the fish off the hooks and it was a great day of um getting the next 725 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:18,960 generation into fishing. And then our next upcoming event is our third quarter 726 01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:24,079 lunchon which is on September 16th. that is going to be uh our gu our title 727 01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:29,200 sponsor is uh Lamb Weston and then we will have Brian Nelson with Amazon 728 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:34,960 coming and speaking about Amazon's impact in the region and then uh AI 729 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:40,000 rescue resources which is a connection with uh Chief Hughes as a business that 730 01:00:37,359 --> 01:00:45,760 he has which is offers AI services for answering phones and kind of automating 731 01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:50,400 your um upfront office space to alleviate that upfront work to allow for 732 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:54,720 staff to be a little more efficient behind the scenes and not answer the 733 01:00:52,960 --> 01:01:00,720 crazy phone calls and get rid of the robot calls. Uh just a quick recap on 734 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:04,480 the or touch on the candy crawl registration is open for the Halloween 735 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:10,160 event at state center on Saturday the on Halloween day and uh we continue just to 736 01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:15,119 achieve our uh mission of visibility, voice and value for boatman. So any 737 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:19,280 questions for me? That's a lot. But we are in the midst of revamping a lot of 738 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:26,480 things. So, please follow our social media pages and uh watch for emails 739 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:29,680 because uh changing in uh invoicing and the program has been a big change. And 740 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:33,200 we're also going to be updating our website and our website will be able to 741 01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:36,319 be translated here pretty soon as a click of a button as well. So, we're 742 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:40,400 excited about that. >> I do have a comment something about the 743 01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:46,000 end of summer. Mhm. >> Um, our end of summer's kind of almost 744 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:52,400 becoming it's a really nice thing, but it's I think it's starting to overshadow 745 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:59,920 the main purpose of what that >> beat what that event is. it's always 746 01:01:54,880 --> 01:02:07,680 been for the first responders and uh it's kind of a catch 22 747 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:12,720 and so I would I would like to see it at in a positive way is how do we 748 01:02:10,799 --> 01:02:18,640 incorporate all the stuff we do but still not 749 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:24,720 overshadowing the first responders. >> Yeah. And so my um I spoke in links with 750 01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:29,680 Chief Hughes and Chief Stokco about that regarding that same concern. And that 751 01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:33,599 was actually kind of a transition of new staff not understanding the event 752 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:37,520 completely, but also the park and wreck uh making changes on me that I was not 753 01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:41,040 aware of of where they were placing the equipment. I was not aware that they had 754 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:45,040 decided to stick everything in the parking lot. And that was a conversation 755 01:02:42,799 --> 01:02:48,400 that I will be having again with George re um regarding the placement of the 756 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:52,160 police department and the fire department's equipment and be in the 757 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:57,040 front and center. Um I just assumed that was my fault far um fault on assuming 758 01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:00,559 that that they were not going to be placed near the stage where we could 759 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:04,799 have a spotlight on them. So that will not happen again and uh staff is very 760 01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:08,880 aware of the changing the direction that needs to go. that that's more of just 761 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:11,280 the uh positive feedback to get back because 762 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:15,680 » No, I agree. >> Um, 763 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:18,160 » everybody enjoys going down there. I mean, 764 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:23,760 » having the opportunity to have another fireworks display, that's pretty cool. 765 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:27,760 » And uh just remembering to not overshadow and that that was really 766 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:31,280 » Yeah. And we have some fun things that we're going to offer next year for our 767 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:35,599 uh end of summer celebration and Fourth of July that will actually make a bigger 768 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:38,400 impact on thanking people and doing things a little cooler and a little 769 01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:42,160 different. So >> very cool. 770 01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:46,799 » I thought it was a great I don't know what other people thought be able to 771 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:51,119 have the food vendors thought that was a unique kind of different swing and that 772 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:54,640 was kind of cool. We like the food vendor idea because they were able to 773 01:03:52,960 --> 01:04:00,640 just come in and serve, but we by splitting them up and spacing them out, 774 01:03:56,799 --> 01:04:03,119 it actually split the food lines up a little bit more and allowed people to 775 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:07,359 get through and get their food a little bit better. Uh, and that was just 776 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:11,440 working with them as first time trying to do that and trying to the food is 777 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:16,799 covered, the cost of the food is covered and we're like, how do we provide free 778 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:20,720 food and you keep track of how that and we can reimburse you for that? It's been 779 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,880 a real learning process for everybody. >> I bet that was because there was one 780 01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:28,079 vendor that was like trying to get people to come. Come come in by coming 781 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,000 in by I was like, "Oh, >> yeah. 782 01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:34,880 » Must be a tally." >> Yeah, there was a tally. Yes. Yes, there 783 01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:36,799 is a tally. So, we don't know. It's a little open-ended at the moment. It's on 784 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,799 a trusty. >> That was kind of a unique twist to it, 785 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,200 but >> Yeah. But it was allowed. 786 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:46,000 » Good. Good thing. >> Perfect. Yeah. And we allowed the option 787 01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:49,760 of the snow cones and ice creams to kind of hopefully alleviate the pressure on 788 01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:53,119 tie, but that still did not happen. Everybody wants their tie ice cream. So, 789 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,920 any other questions? >> You didn't go early. You didn't get it 790 01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:58,319 or you had to wait a long time. >> A long time. Yeah. So, thank you very 791 01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:01,680 much. >> Thank you. 792 01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:04,640 » Did you want to share with BCDA too? >> Love to share. I just saw it was a 793 01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:10,319 report in there and I didn't get to share. So, uh that is exciting news 794 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:17,920 where we are right now. We are finally at 30% construction conceptional design 795 01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:23,280 for this the new retail um facility and um from here you guys might be able 796 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:28,160 to see it but that is the conceptional design of where we are on the building. 797 01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:33,119 It has a really really cool concept. It's really modern. We're going to keep 798 01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:36,960 it to the um modern industrial vibe that we have with the Sage Center and the 799 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:41,760 Neil Early Learning and the BMTC um facility down there. And this is going 800 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:48,480 to be 20,000 square feet, two stories. It has um 75% tenant lease uh intend to 801 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:52,640 lease on it already. We will have additional four spaces for incubator 802 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:59,520 buildings that we are going to work on getting them started at below uh um 803 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:03,599 average rental rates. And over a fiveyear slide, we'll ri we'll move them 804 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:07,920 and by the end of five years at the lease into that, they will get to the 805 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:11,440 real market value lease. And then hopefully by then we have our second 806 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:15,760 building built and we can move them over to a full-time position into the other 807 01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:21,280 building and then we can bring in the next um retail space in there. This is 808 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:26,319 uh looking to be a really cool building and it's exciting. Uh it's a big feat 809 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:29,760 for our nonprofit board for Boardman Community Development Association, but 810 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:33,920 it's a very good use of our enterprise zone dollars to reinvest back into 811 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:37,760 Boardman and provide that. Uh the other thing is our home buyers incentive. We 812 01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:42,880 don't have that many um applications left and we are just in August and homes 813 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:49,200 are buying are selling faster than we can imagine. Uh so but uh part of my 814 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:53,359 work is going out and talking to developers and and saying to people we 815 01:06:51,359 --> 01:06:58,079 got to get down below that 300 thou 300,000 threshold. And that is a big 816 01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:01,680 conversation. I continue to recruit developers. I just spoke with two 817 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:05,440 developers this last week actually that have um similar projects in other 818 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:09,920 communities that they're coming to meet and look at um opportunities here in 819 01:07:07,359 --> 01:07:15,119 Boardman and they have uh ways of utilizing state dollars and federal 820 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:21,039 dollars that they are awarded to invest in Boardman to buy down the cost of a 821 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:25,119 home so the upfront cost is not costing costing the buyer as much and they 822 01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:29,039 recoup those recoup those costs over a 10-year plan. It's a pretty cool 823 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:32,799 concept. It's newer. Um, but this is comes as the developer that has these 824 01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:37,280 opportunities. And this is something he has. And so he is actually gonna be 825 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:42,480 coming to Boardman here soon. So I hope he can be maybe part of that project and 826 01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:49,680 uh get those home values down to that 250 275. And they are looking to be 827 01:07:45,359 --> 01:07:54,720 about 900 ft to,000 ft homes, which is where you guys I I believe is also 828 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:58,960 workforce affordable homes. And then the pickle ball court is 829 01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:02,799 exciting. Uh we're removing removing the location of that. It's going to be in a 830 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:06,400 space where we have more amenities where we can actually have bathrooms support 831 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:11,520 with the basketball court and the existing play structure and be able to 832 01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:15,359 house and host uh pickle ball tournaments here. 833 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:20,080 So that's mainly what we're focusing on right now. I say that's just mainly 834 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:25,920 those are two big large projects plus our home buyers incentive and then 835 01:08:21,839 --> 01:08:25,920 everything else. So any other questions? 836 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,359 Thanks, Tori. >> Thanks. 837 01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:39,880 » All right, we're down to our uh consent agenda. 838 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:47,759 Anybody have any questions or comments about our consent agenda? 839 01:08:45,679 --> 01:08:51,839 » I move to approve the consent agenda as presented. 840 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:55,920 » I'll second. >> A motion, a second. Is there any 841 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:58,239 discussion? All in favor say I. 842 01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:02,400 » I. I. >> Any oppose? [clears throat] 843 01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:08,799 » All right. Action items. Ordinance 14-2026, 844 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:13,920 an ordinance amending the Boardman municipal code to amend Title 8 health 845 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:18,960 and safety. >> So again, we're just going to keep 846 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:22,159 bringing these municipal code updates. We're just trying to make them cleaner, 847 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:28,480 more concise. We're trying to make it more streamlined, you know, more 848 01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:36,560 consistent with the law. Um, uh, chapter or title 8 or whatever it's Yeah, title 849 01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:42,880 eight. Um, it is like city well we oversee these. This is like uh what our 850 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:50,359 um community engagement would you know enforce and this is our code. So any 851 01:09:46,799 --> 01:09:50,359 questions or 852 01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:58,560 I move to approve the reading by title only of ordinance 14-2026, 853 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:02,400 an ordinance amending the Boardman municipal code to amend title 8 health 854 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:06,960 and safety. >> Second and a motion and second. Is there 855 01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:08,880 any other discussion? >> All in favor say I. 856 01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:14,400 » I. >> I. Any oppose? 857 01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:19,920 A staff member reads the title. Ordinance 14-2026, 858 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:26,280 an ordinance amending the Boardman Municipal Code to amend Title 8 Health 859 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,280 and Safety 860 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:35,120 » and adoption. >> I move to adopt ordinance 14-2026, 861 01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:40,000 an ordinance amending the Boardman Municipal Code to amend Title 8 Health 862 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:45,360 and Safety. >> Second. Got a motion, a second. Does 863 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:47,440 anyone have any discussion? All in favor say I. 864 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,080 » I. >> I. Any oppose. 865 01:10:51,679 --> 01:11:01,760 All right. So we will go to ordinance 15206. 866 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:07,120 An ordinance amending the Boardman Municipal Code to amend Title 10 867 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:10,400 vehicles and traffic. >> Perfect. 868 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:15,600 So what this really does is it this is 869 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:20,960 distinct to hey the PD covers this the city 870 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:26,960 covers that. So we're really trying to make it clear 871 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:31,840 and that is basically the title 10 vehicles and traffic PD will oversee 872 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:36,800 that. Um again they're able to run the plates. some of these things are going 873 01:11:33,679 --> 01:11:42,760 to be a little more consistent to them having better resources. 874 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,760 So, 875 01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:50,080 I move to approve the reading by title only of ordinance 15-2026, 876 01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:54,800 an ordinance amending the boardman municipal code to amend title 10 877 01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:57,440 vehicles and traffic. >> I'll second that. 878 01:11:55,679 --> 01:12:02,000 » I got a motion in a second. Is there any discussion? 879 01:11:59,679 --> 01:12:05,920 » All in favor say I. I. >> Any oppose? 880 01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:11,520 » Staff member. >> Uh, ordinance 15-2026, 881 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:18,360 an ordinance amending the Boardman Municipal Code to amend Title 10 882 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:18,360 vehicles and traffic. 883 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:24,960 » I move to adopt ordinance 15-2026, an ordinance amending the Boardwin 884 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:27,920 Municipal Code to amend Title 10 vehicles and traffic. 885 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:31,360 » And I'll second. >> We got a motion in a second. Any 886 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:36,000 discussion? All in favor say I. I. 887 01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:40,679 » I. Any oppose. All right. Go to resolutions. 888 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:51,400 » Resolution 22-2026. A resolution declaring city of Boardman 889 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:51,400 personal property as excess. 890 01:12:51,520 --> 01:13:02,440 » Yep. This is a PD card of 2021 Ford interceptor. 891 01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:02,440 uh chief would have any more details 892 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:08,560 other than we just go through the process. 893 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:14,560 » Yeah, this is one of our surplus uh well, it wasn't surplus, but it's going 894 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:18,560 to cost about $11,000 to replace a transmission in it and therefore it's 895 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:23,360 not worth the investment. This is one of the vehicles we were going to rotate out 896 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:28,960 anyway. Uh, so it's been parked uh over at uh the fire department for 897 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:36,640 a while uh just because we're out of space. Um so uh any questions? I the 898 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:41,280 intention would be uh uh to donate it to uh Stanfield Police Department. Uh their 899 01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:46,480 mechanic thinks he can fix it for less. So 900 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:50,320 » I move to approve resolution 22-2026, a resolution declaring city of Boardman 901 01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:52,640 personal property as excess. >> Second. 902 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:58,960 got a motion and a second. Do you have any discussion? 903 01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:05,080 » Can I confirm who who gave that second? >> Okay. Thank you. 904 01:14:01,679 --> 01:14:05,080 » Council member, 905 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:11,360 » all in favor say I. I. >> I. 906 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:17,400 » Any oppose? All right. So, resolution 907 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,400 23-2026, 908 01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:27,199 a resolution adopting the 2015 water system master plan and the 2021 909 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:34,520 wastewater facilities plan. >> Uh, Carla will have a better 910 01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:34,520 explanation. Carla, are you still there? 911 01:14:36,159 --> 01:14:48,640 » Yeah, I'm still here. Um so explanation would be um historically the city has 912 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:52,400 not um adopted the various uh plans. Um I talked with Mike a little bit about 913 01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:57,440 this. I think he's probably dropped off, but um the city hasn't historically 914 01:14:55,040 --> 01:15:04,480 adopted them because the city hasn't um gone out to seek um grants or loans to 915 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:09,679 fund infrastructure. So the um need to adopt them for grant purposes or loan 916 01:15:07,679 --> 01:15:15,440 purposes was not evident. The city self-funded. Um what got missed in that 917 01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:21,360 is that they also provide a factual basis um for how public facilities are 918 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:25,440 um managed um what kind of plans you have 919 01:15:23,679 --> 01:15:29,840 what kind of projects are in those plans those types of things. So with 920 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:36,560 comprehensive plan update um these just provide a factual basis um as an adopted 921 01:15:33,679 --> 01:15:42,320 document for the the comprehensive plan to um rely on. They don't become a part 922 01:15:39,679 --> 01:15:47,840 of the comprehensive plan. Um they just provide a factual basis of of what's 923 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:53,360 there. As you well know, we're working on adopting um not only replacements for 924 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:57,840 these two plans, but a number of other kind of public facilities plans. Many of 925 01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:03,199 them are well underway and will probably be in front of you sometime later this 926 01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:07,120 fall. Um, but that would not be timely for the work we're doing on the 927 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:11,400 comprehensive plan. So, glad to answer any further questions you might have. 928 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:19,320 » All right. Ready for a motion. 929 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:31,440 I move to approve resolution 24-2026, a resolution establishing oops, adopting 930 01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:37,120 the 2015 water systems master plan and the 2021 wastewater facilities plan. 931 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:42,880 » I'll second that. >> Got a motion, a second. Does anyone have 932 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:50,159 any questions for Carla regarding this >> minor correction resolution 23-2026? 933 01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:50,159 » Thank you. 934 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:57,520 Okay, hearing none. All in favor say I. >> I. 935 01:16:54,719 --> 01:17:02,719 » Any oppose? >> Okay, thank you. 936 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:08,000 » You bet. Thanks, Carla. Resolution 24-2026, 937 01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:13,679 a resolution establishing an animal impoundment feed and repealing prior 938 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:18,800 resolution setting such fees. So just the quickest summary is we're 939 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:24,960 trying to re recoup all the costs associated with transporting and taking 940 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:31,280 care of the animals. That's like gas. That's the time of our employees. 941 01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:37,120 So that's what is before you 942 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:41,199 » move to approve resolution 24-2026 a resolution establishing an animal 943 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:45,840 empowerment fee and repealing prior resolutions setting such fees. 944 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:50,719 » I'll second that. >> I got a motion and a second. Any 945 01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:53,920 discussion? I have some discussion. I think we need to be really careful with 946 01:17:52,239 --> 01:17:58,800 this. Uh I get it, but I think we should be 947 01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:04,719 really careful. uh 948 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:09,840 that we're just not going to be a small town community that tries to help people 949 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:13,679 find their dog or their animal. I mean, we have people who don't take care of 950 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:20,239 their animals and then we have people who do take care of their animals. And I 951 01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:25,520 I just hope that we're not going to be money mongers and just like because 952 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:28,719 there are people that won't pay and they'll just say, "You took my animal." 953 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:33,760 Okay. Well, I'm just not going to get it back. And I think that's a negative way 954 01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:39,360 to go at it. I I get there's a financial cost, but I've already talked to Mr. 955 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:47,159 Hammond about this, but uh I think we need to uh pass this, but I just hope 956 01:18:43,679 --> 01:18:47,159 that there is 957 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:54,640 don't know what the right word. I don't think grace is the right word, but I 958 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:59,440 hope that we we still work with people to 959 01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:05,840 who are responsible people to get their animals back. That's all. And I'd like 960 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:09,600 to piggy back on what Mayor Kefir said, and it's something that we've discussed 961 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:14,080 also that if the animals are properly identified, that the code enforcement 962 01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:19,280 person make every effort to get that pet back to their owner before transporting 963 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,600 them to a facility. Now, if that animal's out all the time, 964 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:26,320 » there go >> and they become a problem, then that's a 965 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:31,440 different situation. But I I do think every effort should be made to return 966 01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:35,600 the the pet that's properly identified to their owner. 967 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:41,320 » And I I think that's what this rail is all about is basically the ones that 968 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,320 aren't responsible. 969 01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:52,719 » So any pet that isn't identified is going to the pound or going to 970 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:59,120 Haristston to the veterary clinics that hold them. Is that correct? 971 01:19:55,360 --> 01:20:04,480 No. So, you guys are talking about two separate things. This is just an 972 01:20:00,719 --> 01:20:11,679 empoundment fee. Totally different. >> You're talking about a process. The 973 01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:16,080 current process is you you get the dog, and this is again, this is based on 974 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:21,040 code. You get the dog, you take them directly to Hermiston, 975 01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:24,800 and then after you've dropped the dog off in Hermiston, you would contact 976 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:30,640 them. That is exactly how the code is. So what you are mentioning is you would 977 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:35,040 like to change the code because again this is when we talk about these things 978 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:40,400 that we're doing like we we have to go and it I don't 979 01:20:37,679 --> 01:20:44,480 want to go and interpret a law. So our code says this we need to do the 980 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:49,040 code. If the code doesn't make sense well then let's change the code which is 981 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:54,640 what we're doing. So, if if that's some direction that you as the council would 982 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:56,719 like uh the city to do is is update the process, that's what you're talking 983 01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:01,440 about. >> I I think I'm a witness to the accepted 984 01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:05,600 practice is to return the dog to the existing owner if it can be identified 985 01:21:03,679 --> 01:21:11,280 when the code enforcement officer collects it. So, that's the current 986 01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:18,080 practice or was the current practice. It >> it absolutely was the current practice. 987 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:19,679 it and it was a um it was u uh 988 01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:23,280 » individual's choice >> correct individual's choice it was not 989 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,800 based on code >> okay 990 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:30,880 » I think that if we do I think we should change the code then to 991 01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:34,800 » which is something we I mean again this is something that we can look at doing 992 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:38,640 but right now the current code is because we've looked at it it it is like 993 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:43,360 you take the dog in it's not going and finding him or anything like that 994 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:51,360 » and and this resolution Brandon, just to clarify, was specifically to recoup the 995 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:53,600 cost of gas and the staff that is taking >> correct 996 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:56,000 » the the um pet. >> Correct. 997 01:21:54,159 --> 01:22:01,520 » And we'll come back at a later time with that rate because it doesn't say here 998 01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:06,639 what that fee is going to be >> for for purpose reasons because the rate 999 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:10,480 like the mileage rate changes the >> different per person. 1000 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:14,000 » Correct. Yep. generally. 1001 01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:17,280 No, it's I mean it's pretty much but the mileage rate the reimburseed mileage 1002 01:22:15,679 --> 01:22:21,840 rate changes. I don't know how often that does but like we do increases to 1003 01:22:20,239 --> 01:22:27,600 salaries and things like that. >> I think the consent I don't think 1004 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:30,880 there's a problem with the the policy that we're trying to do here. I 1005 01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:34,000 think we're concerned about >> which is yes a different matter. 1006 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:39,920 Correct. I hear you need to address that. Yep. I hear you. 1007 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:42,800 » Any other discussion? Okay. All in favor say I. 1008 01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:46,120 » I. >> Any oppose. 1009 01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:54,320 All right. My computer died, so I'm going off of the thing here. 1010 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:58,880 » Okay. So, we're uh update bank bank signers. 1011 01:22:56,639 --> 01:23:04,560 » Um now that you have appointed a new counselor, we need to remove um Karen 1012 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:10,400 Pedigrew from the accounts and add uh councelor Gonzalez. 1013 01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:14,800 I move to update the account signers and custodians on the city of Boardman 1014 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:19,440 accounts at Banner Bank and money market account at the bank of eastern Oregon by 1015 01:23:16,639 --> 01:23:23,520 removing Karen Pedigrew and adding Isabelle Gonzalez. 1016 01:23:21,679 --> 01:23:27,520 » Second that. >> Do I have any discussion? 1017 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:31,360 All in favor say I. >> I. 1018 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:35,679 » I. Any oppose? We'll go to appoint a housing advisor 1019 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:40,480 committee member. I think we already already have a an idea. [laughter] 1020 01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:42,159 » Yeah, I moved to a point. It was all acknowledged to 1021 01:23:41,679 --> 01:23:46,480 » a nominee >> housing committee. 1022 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,320 » All right, we'll do this the quick confession. 1023 01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:52,639 » I could second that. >> Yes, we have a second. Is there any 1024 01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:55,520 discussion? How about the nominee? Do you have any discussion? 1025 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,040 » No. [laughter] >> Welcome. 1026 01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:00,400 » You're willing, right? >> Willing. 1027 01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:08,480 » Yeah. Thank you. We appreciate it. All in favor say I. I. I. Any oppose? 1028 01:24:04,639 --> 01:24:12,320 Okay. Uh, appoint Cres 2 member. I've been uh putting some thought to this. 1029 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:15,040 » I would like to be on it. >> And uh 1030 01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:18,080 you what? >> I would like to be on it. 1031 01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:22,960 » Yeah, but you didn't let me finish. >> I'm sorry. 1032 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:29,120 » Cuz now I maybe not vote for you. >> Maybe not. 1033 01:24:23,679 --> 01:24:35,600 » No. Uh I my thought process was uh was to nominate Brenda Profit just for the 1034 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:41,679 fact that she's been uh attending and been on a uh 1035 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:46,480 she's been on Chris 3 or Chris 3. I do believe she's been on some as alternate. 1036 01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:53,440 I think she would be a good person to put on it when I think she can make the 1037 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:58,239 meetings. Um, and so, um, that was going to be my nomination was to put you as a 1038 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:04,560 Cres 2 member. >> Thank you, Paul. 1039 01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:08,520 » I move to appoint Councelor Profett as the member of Cres 2. 1040 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:14,800 » I'll second that. >> Okay. Got a motion and a second. Is 1041 01:25:12,639 --> 01:25:19,440 there any additional uh discussion? 1042 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:22,239 All in favor say I. I >> I 1043 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:25,239 » Any oppose? >> Thanks. 1044 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:36,320 » BCDA pickle ball leaves. >> So, um, as the BCTA chair alluded to, we 1045 01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:40,400 are, you know, we've talked about moving it. We just need to make it official. 1046 01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:45,840 The old lease was for the old piece of land. So, all we did was the wording is 1047 01:25:43,440 --> 01:25:51,080 basically the same thing. All we did is move the location to behind the 1048 01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,080 fieldhouse. 1049 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:56,960 » I move to approve city manager Hammond to sign the pickle ball court property 1050 01:25:55,679 --> 01:26:00,159 lease agreement with the Boardman Community Development Association. 1051 01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:04,239 » I'll second that. >> Okay, I got a motion and a second. Is 1052 01:26:01,679 --> 01:26:06,320 there any other discussion? All in favor say I. 1053 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,440 » I. >> I. 1054 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:14,159 » Any oppose? All right. League of Oregon Cities 1055 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:23,199 Legislative Priorities. So there is a list of 27 priorities. Um 1056 01:26:20,159 --> 01:26:29,520 in the packet I gave like there's the whole document. 1057 01:26:25,199 --> 01:26:36,320 I then summarized that document and then the one in front of you are 1058 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:42,639 just a few suggestions. Those are things that uh we as city staff felt. Um but 1059 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:46,000 we're only needed to choose five. >> Five. You need this right now. 1060 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:51,199 » We do. >> I've lost my pin. 1061 01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:56,400 » We cannot do it by secret ballot. So, what I can do is I can do a roll call 1062 01:26:53,120 --> 01:27:01,280 and you can give me your votes by number if that would work and that would be an 1063 01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:04,320 easy way to tally. >> What's the blue? 1064 01:27:02,480 --> 01:27:07,440 » The blue are my recommendations from city staff. I'm sorry I didn't clarify 1065 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:11,600 the blue, >> but yeah, that's that's things that have 1066 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:17,679 come up. We as city staff, those are things that we felt are a priority. But 1067 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:20,679 again, I highlighted seven, eight. 1068 01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:37,040 » Do you want to start with me? I'm allowed seven or eight. 1069 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:42,159 » Five. >> Five. 1070 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:44,239 » Five. Yep. And Amanda will note. >> Okay. 1071 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:49,199 » Which one to vote for? >> Councelor Profett. Well, I'm going to 1072 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:54,719 take my five from the eight that Brandon has here. So, I would like number six, 1073 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:58,040 number seven, number nine, 1074 01:27:58,719 --> 01:28:05,760 number 24, and 1075 01:28:03,679 --> 01:28:09,000 number 26. Thank you. 1076 01:28:12,239 --> 01:28:22,760 else ready to go. I'll go uh 6 7 9 10 and 24. 1077 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,199 » Thank you. 1078 01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:36,840 » Same. >> You want the same as councelor Hughes? 1079 01:28:32,639 --> 01:28:36,840 » 67 9 10 and 24. 1080 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:44,239 I can go next. >> Okay. 1081 01:28:40,639 --> 01:28:48,560 » 7 9 24 and 25. 1082 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:56,239 » Thank you. >> Okay, I'm ready. 1083 01:28:50,000 --> 01:29:02,719 » Um 6 7 9 24 and 25. Okay. And Mayor Kefir? 1084 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:06,960 » Uh 679. Uh yeah, let's see. 679. Is that what I 1085 01:29:05,679 --> 01:29:11,840 put? So far, yes, 1086 01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:15,560 » I'm writing it down. >> 67 9 1087 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,400 24 and 25. 1088 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:27,000 Is that everybody? 1089 01:29:40,719 --> 01:29:48,800 So the selected priorities are number six administrative procedures act 1090 01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:54,320 reform, number seven public meetings law clarity, number nine full funding and 1091 01:29:51,679 --> 01:30:01,400 streamlining for housing production number 24 infrastructure funding and 1092 01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:01,400 number 25 water reuse. 1093 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:11,040 that satisfy that. >> There is now another action that we will 1094 01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:16,440 need to take for you to >> vote on that. 1095 01:30:12,239 --> 01:30:16,440 » Yes. Authorize him to vote. 1096 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:24,639 » I move to authorize city manager Hammond to submit the council's top five 1097 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:28,639 legislative priorities elected by the council to the League of Oregon Cities. 1098 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:33,679 » Second. >> Motion and second. Any any discussion? 1099 01:30:32,159 --> 01:30:37,560 All in favor say I. >> I. 1100 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,560 » Any oppose? 1101 01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,639 Financial report. 1102 01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:50,800 » Thank you. Um in front of you we have our first month of the fiscal year 2026 1103 01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:56,880 2027. And um it is also uh the payouts for our 1104 01:30:54,719 --> 01:31:00,719 quarterly payments um such as the building department which is always the 1105 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:04,159 the very large payment that goes out and it makes our financials look like really 1106 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:07,360 lopsided um because we have one month of income 1107 01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:14,159 coming in and you know three months worth of these agreements going out. So 1108 01:31:10,639 --> 01:31:18,719 they had a total of $88,44 um that were dispersed to the 1109 01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:24,320 surrounding jurisdictions. Um, I've listed those there for you. Um, those 1110 01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:29,120 vary every single month. I mean, every single quarter. Um, usually in the 1111 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:34,480 warmer months there's more construction going on and that tends to be the months 1112 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:39,280 that we uh disperse out more. Um, but just depends on what developers 1113 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:45,840 contractors are doing. Um, availability of employees. So, um, for our reserve 1114 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:51,679 funds, um, our general reserve didn't have any projects. um our water reserve 1115 01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:57,360 fund. Um we still have some projects going on. Um and we've listed those 1116 01:31:55,040 --> 01:32:01,920 there for you. Um finishing up some of ours that are still got 1117 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:05,440 uh retainage payments to be paid out because we're waiting for them to fully 1118 01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:09,440 complete the projects. So you'll kind of see sporadically some of those last 1119 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:15,920 payments coming through. Um such as South Main Street. Financially, we have 1120 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:19,199 not closed out that project. Um, but you know, 99.9% 1121 01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:23,600 of the job, you could say, uh, construction-wise is done. Uh, but on 1122 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:29,120 the books, we still have some of that left. So, you'll still see that once we 1123 01:32:25,679 --> 01:32:34,239 get that closed up. Um, and we get the sign off from Anderson Perry that, you 1124 01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:39,120 know, everything has been done. So, it's it's a an assurance that the project is 1125 01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:44,080 actually complete when we finalize the payments. 1126 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:49,600 Um, does anybody have any questions for >> I just have a comment. Um, on behalf of 1127 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:54,239 Boardman Fire, I just wanted to thank the city for having this partnership 1128 01:32:51,440 --> 01:32:58,400 because without this partnership, then our fire marshall position wouldn't 1129 01:32:56,480 --> 01:33:05,199 exist and we're the only we have the only paid fire marshal in the county. 1130 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:08,400 So, anyways, thank you. >> Thank him for the work that he does for 1131 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:11,400 you. Any 1132 01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:17,159 other questions or comments for Marta? 1133 01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:23,400 » Okay. Uh, city manager report. 1134 01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:33,280 » I was just wanting to, you know, take a moment of silence is as there was no 1135 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:37,600 comments from Karen [laughter] to Marta because that is I mean that is 1136 01:33:35,679 --> 01:33:40,560 right. This is the first time >> I think so. 1137 01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:46,400 » Good grief. >> Um, okay. If you 1138 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:52,080 have any questions, let me know. The report is before you. Um, I I I really 1139 01:33:50,000 --> 01:34:00,639 want to emphasize um there is a great 1140 01:33:55,199 --> 01:34:07,520 deal of painful, laborious effort, painstakingly 1141 01:34:03,199 --> 01:34:13,040 day in day out. that goes into making sure that your packet is given a week in 1142 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:20,239 advance. So, I I just so appreciate everyone who 1143 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:26,239 reads the packet prior because we that is an absolute investment. We have been 1144 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:30,880 committed. Um, just for the record, I'll be out of town 1145 01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:36,000 at the end of September. I'm doing a family trip. 1146 01:34:33,199 --> 01:34:41,920 Amanda has several trainings. So, in order for us to like get a packet 1147 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:47,440 out the week in advance, it's like going to be done next week. So, 1148 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:50,639 please just make sure you're reading through the packet. If you have any 1149 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:55,280 questions, let me know. But we really do, it's a week. We want you guys to 1150 01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:59,840 have plenty of time to invest and read and study. So, you're coming into this. 1151 01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:05,440 So, again, thanks for all those that take the time. Um, 1152 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:10,560 » I do appreciate the links because some of them were like 383 pages, some were 1153 01:35:08,159 --> 01:35:12,239 61 pages, and that would be like an a thousandpage document. 1154 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:16,000 » Yeah, >> if it was all in one. 1155 01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,600 » Absolutely. It's much easier to get to with the links. 1156 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:22,560 » Yes. >> And I appreciate having it a week in 1157 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:26,080 advance, even if I can't get to it on the day that it was delivered. 1158 01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:30,480 » Yeah. But but again, yeah, you guys are all busy, but we hope that within that 1159 01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:32,639 week that you guys have time to look it over. 1160 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:34,800 » Yeah, we used to sometimes not get it until Tuesday of the meeting. 1161 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:38,960 » Yeah. >> So, we're we're grateful 1162 01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:44,480 » even if we don't get to read the whole thing. 1163 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:51,199 » Um so, we'll go right into it. Um let just so what everyone 1164 01:35:48,639 --> 01:35:54,440 every every month we will have some kind of munic 1165 01:35:54,719 --> 01:36:01,760 um the next thing I'm thank you for the input it looks like we need to have some 1166 01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:05,520 kind of animal control in the process in there and that's great because that is 1167 01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:11,199 the fe I mean I need that feedback that should be how I'm doing my work um title 1168 01:36:08,480 --> 01:36:16,400 10 that's the last thing that we've been discussing chief stoko 1169 01:36:13,679 --> 01:36:21,760 um presented a noise ordinance and it is in your 1170 01:36:20,239 --> 01:36:28,320 packet. Do you was there any input on that? Is 1171 01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:32,400 there is that going in the right direction? Stephanie, is Stephanie still 1172 01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:36,320 here? >> She's online. Okay, Stephanie's 1173 01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:39,600 listening to >> Okay, 1174 01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:44,080 » so >> the only comment I had, and I brought 1175 01:36:41,679 --> 01:36:49,600 this up when I talked to you, was, "Is that really our most pressing thing that 1176 01:36:46,239 --> 01:36:57,520 we need to work on?" That was my is it an issue? Yeah. Uh, but is that out of 1177 01:36:55,280 --> 01:37:02,320 all the things that we have going on in our community, what is that really the 1178 01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:06,800 one that we really need to address first? 1179 01:37:04,639 --> 01:37:11,440 » That was my only question. Okay, I'm not saying whether it was right or wrong. 1180 01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:13,520 That was my question. >> And this comes 1181 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:18,880 » because I didn't see anything about speeding. I haven't heard anything about 1182 01:37:17,119 --> 01:37:21,920 uh uh what what else has people been 1183 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:25,760 barking about? >> Well, I I do have a police chief 1184 01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:28,080 question. >> That that was my only comment. 1185 01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:34,080 » Yeah, >> but go ahead. Go ahead, Chief. 1186 01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:38,000 » So, Chief, obviously DUIs are getting Yeah. getting worse and worse. Is there 1187 01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:42,639 um what course of action is are you taking 1188 01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:47,199 for that? So to answer your question, I in I 1189 01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:52,159 didn't get an opportunity to explain this earlier, but we had just in this 1190 01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:58,639 last month alone, the last 30 days, we had 12 DUI arrests. So that's an average 1191 01:37:54,560 --> 01:38:04,719 of three a week, which is ridiculous. Um, we have increased our emphasis on 1192 01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:07,440 DUIs. So if you're driving around and there's a 1193 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:11,600 reason to stop you, they're going to find a reason to stop you. So don't 1194 01:38:09,199 --> 01:38:17,840 break the law. But I would really encourage you not to drink and drive. So 1195 01:38:14,159 --> 01:38:22,560 um yes, we have done increases in uh uh emphasis patrols. Uh to answer the 1196 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:26,080 mayor's question on speed, speeds controlled by Oregon revised statute. 1197 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:30,800 Has nothing to do with the city ordinance. So there's really nothing to 1198 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:36,639 address there. Um we do do emphasis patrols for speed. Uh we can't be 1199 01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:40,880 everywhere all the time. And uh we do issue tickets. I think if you look at 1200 01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:47,119 the report, I don't have in front of me, but I'm sure there was like 60ome 1201 01:38:43,440 --> 01:38:51,960 citations issued for the month. Um, so speed continues to be a problem. 1202 01:38:52,239 --> 01:38:59,760 I don't want to feel like I was attacking you or that I because I've 1203 01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:04,719 seen your posts on Facebook trying to address it and I've seen the attacking 1204 01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:09,840 come to you. Um, so I appreciate everything that you're trying to do. I 1205 01:39:06,719 --> 01:39:14,400 do that. That was I just wanted to reiterate that I mean everything because 1206 01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:21,760 I've talked to a couple officers about the DUIs on what you know where is it 1207 01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:28,000 happening? Is it really people who are going to establishments and coming out 1208 01:39:24,239 --> 01:39:33,360 and uh I think the consensus was that wasn't really the problem. It's coming 1209 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:38,400 from home. people are partaking at home and then leaving or they're getting off 1210 01:39:36,239 --> 01:39:45,199 work and they're buying a beverage and they're cracking it open at nine o'clock 1211 01:39:41,119 --> 01:39:50,800 in the morning and going home. So, uh it's a tough problem. I I don't have a 1212 01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:57,199 problem with discussing uh dealing with the noise because I remember in the 1213 01:39:53,679 --> 01:40:01,760 early 2000s when certain individuals I think that was before you but that uh we 1214 01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:06,560 had individuals who had really loud cars and that was an issue that we had to 1215 01:40:04,239 --> 01:40:08,560 deal with as well. So, 1216 01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:13,280 » I think it's barking dogs right at the moment. 2 a.m. barking dogs 1217 01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:17,880 » been let out to go potty and then won't be let back in in a timely way. 1218 01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:27,600 » I think and I think that my comment um to you Brandon was just um you know when 1219 01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:31,679 you think about the officer's time, right? is that the best use of their 1220 01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:38,560 time um dealing with complaints about noise versus you know the safety and and 1221 01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:44,960 um I think that's where where I was coming from um when I made similar 1222 01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:50,880 comments I think to Mayor Kefir. I guess I would hesitate to call 911 1223 01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:55,840 because the neighbor's dog is barking habitually at 2 a.m. I would I would 1224 01:40:54,159 --> 01:40:58,320 still have a trouble calling about that. I'd rather call during the day and say, 1225 01:40:57,119 --> 01:41:01,360 "Hey, this is a problem in my neighborhood. Could you send extra 1226 01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:05,840 patrols?" >> I I I don't think it's barking dogs that 1227 01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:10,480 we're dealing with. We're deal the the bands that are literally in people's 1228 01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:14,159 backyards at at 2 in the morning still rocking and rolling. Correct. 1229 01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:17,760 » Are they inside the city? >> Yes, they are inside the city. 1230 01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:24,080 » All right. Yeah. >> So my margarita 1231 01:41:21,119 --> 01:41:29,679 » I always thought that we had a time that was a quiet time and I was told that we 1232 01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:33,520 didn't and I there are other cities that have that. 1233 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:37,360 Um so >> we have a lot of lot of things that we 1234 01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:42,639 got to tackle. >> So if I could I try to try to address 1235 01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:48,639 all of the comments and concerns. So, uh, no offense, I I didn't take it as as 1236 01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:55,280 as as you were pointing fingers. So, um, but, uh, we have to address all of these 1237 01:41:51,520 --> 01:42:00,960 issues, not just one. And the officers are getting all kinds of calls. I I 1238 01:41:57,679 --> 01:42:08,080 actually had to, uh, cover some calls last Saturday night. So, um, we had five 1239 01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:13,280 noise complaints all that night alone. One of them was a 1240 01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:18,159 repeat offender after we told them that they needed to quiet down. Um, during 1241 01:42:16,159 --> 01:42:23,600 that, we also had other calls. We had a head-on collision um in which uh 1242 01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:27,119 fortunately nobody got hurt, but we were dealing with that at the same time as 1243 01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:33,119 other complaints. So, yes, we have to prioritize our calls. Um, with the 1244 01:42:30,639 --> 01:42:38,480 barking dogs, if you don't call when it's happening, it's pretty tough for us 1245 01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:43,280 to do anything. Okay? So, you don't have to call 911. you can call the 1246 01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:48,800 non-emergency dispatch number and the officer if they're not on another call 1247 01:42:46,159 --> 01:42:54,000 will go take care of that or uh we have a method in place that the city has a 1248 01:42:51,199 --> 01:43:00,560 call out or whatever for their their folks. So all calls will get addressed 1249 01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:05,440 all complaints have to be addressed at some point in in in some form or 1250 01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:10,880 fashion. So we we will take care of those. We prioritize the calls as they 1251 01:43:07,679 --> 01:43:14,880 come in. So, a barking dog call and a DUI, 1252 01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:17,520 it's gonna get put on the back burner, >> of course. 1253 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:23,280 » Um, I I hope I covered everybody's kind of 1254 01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:29,040 concerns. Um, what we did here is we tried to I took noise ordinances from 1255 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:34,320 several different cities. Um, I took ours, I took uh Oregon Revised Statute 1256 01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:38,400 and kind of try to combine it into an ordinance in which we can try to address 1257 01:43:36,719 --> 01:43:42,719 some of the concerns. So if you if you read down through that ordinance um 1258 01:43:40,480 --> 01:43:49,600 there was the talk about amplified uh noise uh engine revving tires spinning 1259 01:43:46,719 --> 01:43:57,119 horns defective or modified exhaust systems that type of thing. So it is 1260 01:43:51,920 --> 01:44:04,480 encompassed into this. Our current uh ordinance is very vague and extremely 1261 01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:08,560 difficult to try to enforce. Basically, we could arrest you for disorderly 1262 01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:14,320 conduct with just coming and talking to you the first time. Obviously, we want 1263 01:44:11,199 --> 01:44:19,119 to educate and uh have some ordinances. And so, I tried putting out a post uh 1264 01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:23,520 early on about some of the concerns that we're having, but it was very vague and 1265 01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:27,119 I had a lot of questions. So, uh that's when I went to the city manager and 1266 01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:31,119 said, "Hey, we need to come up with a resolution and try to define our 1267 01:44:29,199 --> 01:44:35,360 ordinance a little better than what it is." uh we're not trying to we're not 1268 01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:40,480 trying to say don't go out and have fun. We're we're simply not doing that. But 1269 01:44:38,239 --> 01:44:45,119 uh in a residential neighborhood, people also have the right to enjoy their their 1270 01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:53,119 home and their their property as well. So there has to be a 1271 01:44:49,119 --> 01:44:56,639 compromise uh on on both sides, but uh I do believe there's ways we can address 1272 01:44:54,800 --> 01:45:02,480 some of these concerns >> because I was uh I think I was talking 1273 01:44:58,639 --> 01:45:09,199 to Mr. happened earlier too uh about time of day. So if we 1274 01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:14,560 we were to limit the times well that has greater ramifications because the city 1275 01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:21,600 also has celebrations and so if we cancel things say okay uh can only be at 1276 01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:26,560 certain times then the city and other activities that we have also have to be 1277 01:45:24,719 --> 01:45:27,600 cognizant of that too. So other side it's like 1278 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:33,679 » that's >> just trying to think of you know 1279 01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:40,320 I noticed that it just said time of day but is when you put this together is 1280 01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:42,320 that the that's not the official one is it 1281 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:48,080 » we >> the one that we sent before you yes 1282 01:45:44,239 --> 01:45:54,560 would no I mean it's a it's a draft but it has an opportunity for temporary 1283 01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:58,880 noise ordinance allowances or exceptions >> there is at the authorization of the 1284 01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:05,119 city manager. But again, I would use extreme caution because what we can't do 1285 01:46:02,239 --> 01:46:09,840 is say Oregon revised statute, you don't matter. Um, and it does fall under 1286 01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:14,800 disorderly conduct and and some other things. What we would probably encourage 1287 01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:19,199 is if you're going to have that live music, uh, put it in a venue that's not 1288 01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:25,760 in a residential neighborhood. Yeah. >> Put it in in in a in a park or or an 1289 01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:30,639 event place. so that it doesn't cause that type of disturbance. Then the city 1290 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:35,920 manager can issue a permit allowing for certain hours to allow that to take 1291 01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:40,880 place. When when when we make a decision based on this, there's the totality of 1292 01:46:38,639 --> 01:46:45,840 the circumstances. So you got duration, the time of day, uh what type of noise, 1293 01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:50,159 how long, uh if it's been going on for four or five hours compared to an hour 1294 01:46:48,239 --> 01:46:52,960 or 30 minutes or whatever the case may be. There's a lot of stuff that comes 1295 01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:57,600 into this when an officer makes a decision. How far are we going to push 1296 01:46:54,960 --> 01:47:01,679 this and can we resolve it without it ending with somebody either getting a 1297 01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:07,679 citation or somebody going to jail? That's our last course. We always always 1298 01:47:04,639 --> 01:47:11,199 love would love to give a warning rather than issue a citation. 1299 01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:16,080 » I think there are parties around Boardman that are outside of the city's 1300 01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:21,199 purview that are loud enough to be heard anywhere in Boardman. 1301 01:47:17,679 --> 01:47:27,440 » So the Sorry. So, and and I recognize that that's a that's a factor. It's just 1302 01:47:25,199 --> 01:47:32,560 a part of I've always thought it was kind of a 1303 01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:36,159 part of living here. So, but >> um 1304 01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:41,440 » so to address that, uh I there was the same Saturday night, the same uh there 1305 01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:46,000 was a party out in the county and the county was called and they actually took 1306 01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:50,880 action on it as well. So they they kind of have similar noise issues, but it's a 1307 01:47:49,199 --> 01:47:55,440 little easier to do out in the county. >> Yeah. 1308 01:47:52,400 --> 01:48:03,040 And and the main concept like was there anything to change take away because the 1309 01:47:58,719 --> 01:48:06,480 the goal is let's talk about it and then again let's present it. I mean we're 1310 01:48:04,639 --> 01:48:10,080 trying to make and and we'll continue to make corrections and we can do that. 1311 01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:14,320 We're just trying to clean up some things. So the hope would be to present 1312 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:21,840 this next month. But was there anything that stood out that you're like, "Wow, 1313 01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:24,719 no." Or, "Where is this?" Anything? >> No. 1314 01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:27,840 » No. I'll probably just keep talking to you about it. 1315 01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:32,800 » Cool. All right. Okay. So, don't bring it to present next 1316 01:48:30,719 --> 01:48:34,719 time like for adoption. >> Bring it. 1317 01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:37,360 » Bring it. >> We'll see. 1318 01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:40,000 » And then good the way it is. Like 1319 01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:44,800 » anybody has a heartburn, they'll definitely bring it up to you. 1320 01:48:41,199 --> 01:48:48,719 » Cool. Um, mobile. Again, this is a mobile food vendor. We're not talking 1321 01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:55,679 pods yet. We're just talking mobile food vendor. Was there anything in there that 1322 01:48:52,719 --> 01:49:00,080 uh I know Heather has shared some stuff which was great. We addressed those 1323 01:48:58,719 --> 01:49:07,440 was >> also wanted to to bring up the 1324 01:49:04,159 --> 01:49:12,480 like special events. >> Yes. Did I not? So 1325 01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:18,080 » yes, we should talk about that. >> Yes, thank you. So the one thing that we 1326 01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:21,199 don't like this does not the mobile food vendor has nothing to do with the guy 1327 01:49:19,679 --> 01:49:26,719 selling watermelon or anything like that. We will define mobile food vendor 1328 01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:31,040 as a food truck. Um and the special events, Stephanie, did we have anything 1329 01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:35,760 about special events? I know we've talked about it because we do it right 1330 01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:40,239 now. I mean, right, they go down in the marina. they do other things and I 1331 01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:44,560 » I just >> there is a little bit of language uh 1332 01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:47,679 it's going to be right on your first page. I don't have it in [clears throat] 1333 01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:52,560 front of me right now but it says except special events. So under food 1334 01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:57,280 regulations mobile vendors for events are handled differently than your 1335 01:49:54,159 --> 01:50:02,560 typical mobile vendor. So they are inspected as standalone during that 1336 01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:07,199 event only. So you'll see them at fair or um maybe some of the chamber events 1337 01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:11,520 where they have to participate in those. But there is some language in there 1338 01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:16,000 where it says accept events. >> And and Stephanie, can you shine a light 1339 01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:22,800 on what you brought differently this time? 1340 01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:26,560 » Sure. So with this, I I tried to take in all of the conversation that we had 1341 01:50:24,480 --> 01:50:30,239 during the work session the one night. We sent out a preliminary. I think 1342 01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:35,600 Brandon sent it to each of you individually for your review. Uh some of 1343 01:50:32,719 --> 01:50:39,040 you gave us some feedback uh about specific issues. So I think what you're 1344 01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:45,600 seeing in front of you tonight would address um individual vendor units. And 1345 01:50:43,679 --> 01:50:50,320 the idea behind this would be that it would go I believe it's title five of 1346 01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:54,639 the municipal code kind of the same area where we have uh transient merchant 1347 01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:58,480 licenses and those sorts of things. And then the food pods themselves would be 1348 01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:05,040 something that would be in it in the development code. So, this one's going 1349 01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:09,199 to cover some regulations for individual units and things that could help 1350 01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:17,840 facilitate the uh opportunity for these units to 1351 01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:24,639 come in and be cited and have some safety area around them as far as fire 1352 01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:30,080 life safety, some parking, and then the possibility for some safe connections 1353 01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:34,239 should they need connection to water or electricity or even potentially our 1354 01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:42,159 sewer system. >> And then also bring up the the 30 the 1355 01:51:39,199 --> 01:51:46,320 tempor the three classifications. >> So we kind of followed a little bit of 1356 01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:52,239 what a couple of other jurisdictions did where it would be a temporary like a 1357 01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:55,599 type one is a a 30-day and then type two and type three going all the way up to 1358 01:51:54,000 --> 01:52:00,320 180 days with the intent of them being there temporarily. 1359 01:51:57,599 --> 01:52:05,599 um but no hour limitation. They could be open 24 hours a day if they wanted to or 1360 01:52:02,480 --> 01:52:11,920 anything like that, but more being a a temporary at that location. 1361 01:52:08,480 --> 01:52:16,480 And then the other piece of that then would be that I would really like for 1362 01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:21,920 you to consider tonight would be specifically what areas 1363 01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:26,560 uh I put just the zones. I think I did um commercial industrial what zones we 1364 01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:31,679 would like to see them in and maybe identify maybe it's not the tourist 1365 01:52:29,199 --> 01:52:35,800 commercial overlay or maybe it is or what you'd like to see with that 1366 01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:43,520 » that location. Yeah. >> Well, I do have a question then. So, 1367 01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:48,800 let's say the Sage Center was holding an event and wanted a mobile vendor. then 1368 01:52:46,239 --> 01:52:53,440 they just apply for a permit for that usage even though it's not 1369 01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:56,080 » it's a different process because it's like a special event thing. 1370 01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:58,560 » Okay. >> It has to be done through the health 1371 01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:03,960 department. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's something too. 1372 01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,960 » Correct. 1373 01:53:07,679 --> 01:53:11,560 That's a totally different 1374 01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:19,280 » anything any heartburn I mean fine you're fine 1375 01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:22,000 with the type one type two type three nothing like that 1376 01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:26,560 » gives them some direction when they want to come in with their mobile food truck 1377 01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:30,400 » sure >> and not be on a pod 1378 01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:36,119 » um I know >> I know they're well I I won't bring it 1379 01:53:33,119 --> 01:53:36,119 up. 1380 01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:45,440 We're not talking O do Stephanie, so don't say anything. 1381 01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:51,440 » Are they mobile? No. >> Yeah, that's something. Anyway, cool. Um 1382 01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:56,320 the one thing that will again, we'll just keep bringing stuff up. Um any 1383 01:53:53,760 --> 01:54:03,599 other input, please. Again, we'll do the animal thing. Amanda wrote that down. Um 1384 01:54:00,480 --> 01:54:09,679 uh and then the last thing that I wanted to share is just thank you. I I 1385 01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:14,639 it can be crappy in your position and and it's not like 1386 01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:20,400 people are breaking down the doors of city hall to come and run to be on 1387 01:54:16,480 --> 01:54:27,440 council. Um so I I really do appreciate what you do. Uh, I've I know that you 1388 01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:32,320 guys have the absolute utmost what is best for boredom at at heart and that's 1389 01:54:30,239 --> 01:54:35,679 exactly what it should be. And maybe that's not always aligned with what 1390 01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:39,760 everyone says or what I think or whatever, but that's what you guys are 1391 01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:45,840 choosing to do. And you set yourself out for those things and and and thank you 1392 01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:52,239 for doing that cuz um the the no one signing up is is way 1393 01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:56,400 scary to not have people be willing to run. So, 1394 01:54:53,360 --> 01:55:01,719 » well, and let's be honest, it's only one or two people that causes the most 1395 01:54:58,719 --> 01:55:01,719 grief. 1396 01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:05,560 That's all I got. 1397 01:55:07,119 --> 01:55:15,760 » All right, we're to the point where we have counselor comments. Any counselors 1398 01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:20,880 have some comments they'd like to share? >> I do. 1399 01:55:17,679 --> 01:55:28,239 » So, um I did want to just say I I don't think three questions is enough. 1400 01:55:23,679 --> 01:55:32,639 When we I'm looking at Mayor Kefir. um when we in when we interview candidates. 1401 01:55:31,119 --> 01:55:37,040 Um so I'll leave it at that. Um but I did 1402 01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:46,080 also want to share I had a training in Hermiston um recently and the trainer um 1403 01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:52,000 uh was there for two days and um I was talking to her and she um shared that 1404 01:55:49,599 --> 01:55:57,840 she was staying in Boardman and she said she was from like the 1405 01:55:53,840 --> 01:56:04,639 Portland area. Um and she said when um she goes out and does trainings um she 1406 01:56:01,599 --> 01:56:10,000 uh does not want to have to commute and she said but it was worth it you know 1407 01:56:07,599 --> 01:56:13,920 driving to driving from Boardman to Hermison. She said it just is very 1408 01:56:12,159 --> 01:56:17,920 relaxing. She really enjoyed being next to the river um and just spoke highly of 1409 01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:22,560 Boardman. So I just wanted to share that. 1410 01:56:19,599 --> 01:56:26,239 » Nice. >> Any other counselor comments? 1411 01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:36,880 Okay, I have a mayor comment. So, this is going to be an update. I uh met with 1412 01:56:34,639 --> 01:56:43,040 the county uh Mr. Jensen and I met with Lisa 1413 01:56:41,119 --> 01:56:54,239 from the port and myself and we talked about water and um Mr. Jensen is going 1414 01:56:48,719 --> 01:56:58,400 to be coming next month to present uh something 1415 01:56:56,080 --> 01:57:05,840 that the county would like us to do and we need to be ready to decide on that. 1416 01:57:01,599 --> 01:57:09,840 Um we talked about a lot of things and um 1417 01:57:07,679 --> 01:57:17,040 we're taking a lot of heat about this water and we're taking uh a lot of heat. 1418 01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:23,920 people are saying things that we are doing that we're not. And I think it's 1419 01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:29,520 important that we be ready to um go somewhere to be able to give the county 1420 01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:34,840 and the water consortium a decision on where the city stands. U 1421 01:57:35,119 --> 01:57:45,840 cities do not sell water to people who are not citizens 1422 01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:50,480 and it is not right. You mean citizens live in live inside the city? 1423 01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:52,880 » Not outside the city limits. >> Clarifying. 1424 01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:57,440 » Thank you for clarifying. >> Correct. 1425 01:57:54,560 --> 01:58:02,119 » So yeah, make sure I say it right. Uh because I have a lot of thoughts, Roman. 1426 01:57:59,119 --> 01:58:02,119 Um 1427 01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:11,280 » Whoa. >> And your phone's not about Siri like 1428 01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:18,040 commenting on what I'm saying. So, um 1429 01:58:13,679 --> 01:58:18,040 I think that the 1430 01:58:20,239 --> 01:58:25,639 sorry if my watch talks too. Um 1431 01:58:27,679 --> 01:58:37,040 I think that the Mr. Jensen was really pushing would like us to apply a pipe 1432 01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:44,000 that goes to West Glenn and uh I don't think that is probably 1433 01:58:40,239 --> 01:58:48,960 the right way to go uh because West Glenn is in the urban growth and anyone 1434 01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:54,639 who receives uh water outside of the city limits 1435 01:58:52,320 --> 01:59:01,280 probably would never want to come into the city limits. uh nor would the city 1436 01:58:57,599 --> 01:59:08,639 ever make someone do that. So out of all these things that uh are out there, I 1437 01:59:04,639 --> 01:59:14,719 think it's important that we remember that we have the boardman and citizens 1438 01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:20,400 water supply that we need to think about. 1439 01:59:16,239 --> 01:59:25,679 Um that's the number one. And number two is 1440 01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:31,440 anything that we do in if we were to go outside and enter our urban growth 1441 01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:38,080 boundary and try to help would only bring liability to the city. I think 1442 01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:42,159 that the county needs to build a water district 1443 01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:48,400 and they should probably think about that if they haven't. I'm a little 1444 01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:52,239 irritated that it's four years past 2022 and the water consortium finally decided 1445 01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:58,960 to come talk to the city of Boardman in 2026. But that's me. That's just me. Uh 1446 01:59:56,080 --> 02:00:04,320 I think it's should be clear that the city of Boardman is not trying to tell 1447 02:00:01,199 --> 02:00:10,080 people what to do. I think it's should be important that the people of the area 1448 02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:15,199 know that the city of Boardman has no interest in making people do things that 1449 02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:22,719 they don't want to do. So, uh, out of all of that rambling, uh, 1450 02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:27,440 next month, uh, Matt Jensen will probably be coming and talking to you 1451 02:00:25,599 --> 02:00:32,400 and expecting a decision on the direction that you would like to go as a 1452 02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:37,599 council. Uh I said I was only one person. I cannot make decisions for the 1453 02:00:34,719 --> 02:00:43,280 council but tried to give them some ideas of maybe what the council might or 1454 02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:49,280 might not be willing to do and he will do a presentation for us to decide. 1455 02:00:47,679 --> 02:00:54,863 Uh the other thing I'd like to share just 1456 02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:58,639 to councelor Quis is we can fix that. [laughter] 1457 02:00:56,639 --> 02:01:05,119 We can address that. Let's give them four questions. 1458 02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:08,560 » Yes. I just I just think um you know I I do think that these positions are 1459 02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:14,400 important, right? And they're not paid by the way. Um but they are they are 1460 02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:20,080 important and I want to have a good feel for the individuals and um like just the 1461 02:01:17,679 --> 02:01:23,760 basic question of what are what are the qualities that you would bring that you 1462 02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:30,080 feel like are the most important, right? Or that you would you know contribute, 1463 02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:33,920 right? um from either one because I think that that's where they 1464 02:01:31,599 --> 02:01:39,360 could really speak to what they can bring versus some of the 1465 02:01:36,239 --> 02:01:44,159 questions that were on here. So >> yes, 1466 02:01:40,239 --> 02:01:48,199 » we can address that. Thank you. Uh this meeting is adjourned.