[0:04] I'd like to welcome everybody to our
city council meeting Tuesday, September
[0:07] 1, 2026 at 7 p.m. I hereby call this
meeting to order. If everybody stand,
[0:13] we'll do the pledge of allegiance for
the flag salute.
[0:17] » Ready, begin. I aliance to the flag of
the United States of America and to the
[0:24] republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:30] justice for all.
[0:36] » All right. As far as our roll call, uh
Mr. Rockwell, he is excused. He's not
[0:42] able to attend and we have a vacancy. So
that will take us right. And other than
[0:47] that, we have a quorum for four. So,
I'll take us right to our action item.
[0:52] We will do our council vacancy. We have
two citizens who would like to do that.
[0:59] Uh we have Mary Jones and Isabelle
Gonzalez.
[1:03] And we have uh so if you two would like
to just come up and well, yeah,
[1:10] somewhere towards the podium because we
uh we got some questions. There's only
[1:15] three questions.
And uh
[1:19] we'll have uh Chief you start with
question number one. He'll ask uh
[1:25] » Okay, I'd love to answer the question.
Yeah, here we go. Thank you for taking
[1:30] care of me.
What do you see the most three important
[1:34] issues facing our city over the next
year to 18 months and how would you help
[1:39] to address them?
[1:43] » Question. I love it. Did you want to go
first? Okay. I say I'll rock paper
[1:47] scissor for you if you want. Okay.
[1:53] I would say that as from the boardman uh
goals that I can see in front of me, uh
[2:02] a lot of people recognize that growth is
the biggest challenge both in making
[2:07] sure it happens but also trying to
protect the residents desires that are
[2:12] already here. And so it's a double-edged
sword, right? We want growth. We want
[2:16] the jobs. We would love the tax money.
All of these things are good things, but
[2:20] the flip side of that coin is the
residents and their desire for a small
[2:24] town and enjoying that feel of
community, right? So that's that
[2:28] conflict, that tension that can be
really hard to address. Um, how would I
[2:33] address it? Well, I think having been
here in Boardman for about 15 years, uh,
[2:41] been raising my kids here, so I have
kids that have been going through the
[2:44] school district, so I and also being a
small business owner who has at times
[2:49] struggled in responsiveness from the
city. I think I'm well adapted to
[2:55] understand a lot of different
perspectives. Um, so I don't know how I
[3:00] would necessarily address it because the
issue po pops up in a lot of different
[3:04] ways. Um, so depending on whether we're
talking about, you know, water or
[3:08] electricity or power or internet like
each one has its own conundrum. So,
[3:16] uh, hopefully with learning all sides, I
would address it.
[3:21] » Thank you.
>> So, I kind of have similar answers. Um,
[3:27] growth is the number one thing that I
see right now. And it one thing that I
[3:31] think is really important is that we
want to grow and we want to improve and
[3:36] we want to be better, but we don't want
to just build things and fix things just
[3:41] because
they're there. I want to plan, have an
[3:47] idea, think about the future, think
about our growth in kind of a
[3:52] conservation kind of way. Not just
spending money wherever we see fit, but
[3:56] really conserving the money that we have
now and thinking about the future. What
[4:00] can we do now to fix fix now and what
can we plan for in the future? Like we
[4:06] were talking about the police station,
that's going to be a 25 year project.
[4:10] [clears throat] you know, that is really
setting us up for the future and
[4:14] conservation of water, our electricity,
um, and just the development of
[4:19] Boardman.
[4:26] » You want you can read it.
>> Uh, Heather, would you like to ask the
[4:30] second one?
>> So, given the city's limited tax base
[4:33] and budget, where would you prioritize
increasing or reducing funding and why?
[4:40] So,
[4:44] like we've talked about before with the
water, increasing water and kind of
[4:47] making that more as a cost because right
now we're in a deficit and so I know
[4:52] that we're on a ladder to increase, but
kind of operating that even just at cost
[4:59] I think would be a huge difference. Um,
and then prioritizing those cres dollars
[5:04] because they are unpredictable.
Um, as for reduced funding, I don't see
[5:10] anywhere where we really should be
cutting back on money. So,
[5:18] that's important.
[5:23] Um,
I will admit that I come into this not
[5:29] knowing where Boardman has been spending
its money. So I will fully admit that
[5:36] without seeing having a better
information. Um I can't really answer
[5:43] this question.
[5:50] » All right. The council sometimes must
make decisions that are unpopular with
[5:55] residents.
How would you communicate those
[5:58] decisions and respond to the community's
concerns?
[6:02] So one thing that I see a lot is that
maybe the communication between what
[6:09] we're doing here and what the people are
understanding is not really
[6:14] communicated. Um you know these are
public meetings and a lot of people
[6:18] don't come to them. So maybe it would be
a good idea to put out little clips or
[6:23] announcements at at the end of each
meeting and be like, "Hey, this is kind
[6:26] of what we talked about kind of like a
after agenda like, hey, this is what we
[6:31] talked about. This is kind of where
we're going." Just for the people to
[6:34] know and then that's really how you're
going to get feedback is putting that
[6:37] out there to those people. You know,
nobody wants to, you know, I do this for
[6:42] fun. People don't want to sit and watch
a two hour, three hour Zoom meeting kind
[6:46] of flip through where if we were kind of
putting something out and saying this is
[6:50] kind of what we talked about. These are
the decisions that we're going to come
[6:54] back to later on and if people want to
come then they know that that's coming
[6:57] up or that if they see a project that
they're interested in that that's
[7:01] something that they're going to keep
their eyes on. And just kind of really
[7:04] getting that feedback from what people
want besides just the people that we see
[7:08] every day and that are coming to these
meetings.
[7:15] Um, so the business my husband and I own
is a mobile home park and that's
[7:19] relevant because quite frequently we
make decisions that are wildly unpopular
[7:24] and we get feedback. Um, and so the best
way I found is
[7:32] you listen and people can if people have
an easier time accepting what a decision
[7:39] is if they feel like you really
understand what they're saying and where
[7:42] they're coming from. Um, that doesn't
change your decision. Or maybe it'll
[7:47] influence you moving down the road
perhaps. Absolutely. And you should take
[7:50] those into account. But uh once a
decision, a policy has been enacted,
[7:57] that's the bottom line, right? This is
where we are. Um and that doesn't mean
[8:01] you and I can't work together to make
changes, but at the same time, this is
[8:06] where it is. So giving opport people an
opportunity to be heard. Um often
[8:13] helps them feel like they've been seen
at the very least.
[8:19] » Well, thank you. It's always uh uh good
to see people who are willing to step
[8:25] into the firing zone. Um I re I uh
commend you. I will say that this has uh
[8:33] weighed heavy on me for the last couple
weeks since I got the packet and uh
[8:41] because I know both of you and that's
what makes it tough.
[8:46] you can [laughter]
I don't need to arm wrestler for it.
[8:50] It's not
>> I'm just saying that it it it as a uh as
[8:55] a a person I'm the mayor, but as a
counselor up here, um I think we're all
[9:00] weighing um we're all humans. We don't
like hurting people's feelings unless
[9:05] you're other people who are just evil.
But um
[9:09] we care about people's feelings and uh
so it's been weighing heavy on me on
[9:18] which way to go.
Uh I know that since I've been doing
[9:22] this
for this is my sixth year we've I have
[9:28] always weighed heavy on the individual
who has participated in the council
[9:32] meetings who has participated in
uh attendance things like that. U being
[9:39] on committees and things kind of like
what your husband does.
[9:44] And uh so for me um my vote is going to
be uh
[9:53] for Isabelle.
>> Are we at that stage?
[9:58] » Are we at that stage?
>> Yeah, because there's no questions.
[10:01] » Okay.
>> We already asked her questions.
[10:03] » Not allowed to ask any additional
questions. Oh,
[10:06] » okay.
>> Unless we ask them both.
[10:10] » Exactly.
>> But usually we go with just the three
[10:13] questions.
That was correct in that
[10:16] » that is what we did the last time. You
are correct.
[10:19] » Prior to that I think when I was on the
other side I think I had every counselor
[10:26] ask a question.
>> Oh yeah there was a stack of questions
[10:29] back then.
>> There were more than
[10:32] » there was more than two candidates.
That's fine.
[10:34] » You did you can ask another question if
you'd like.
[10:36] » I think it was just Well, Mayor Kefir
said no.
[10:39] » No.
>> Not asking any more questions. We
[10:41] already have our three questions.
Yeah.
[10:45] » So, Mayor Kefir, would you like me to do
a roll call vote?
[10:49] » Yes, please.
>> Okay. Councelor Hughes
[10:54] » Gonzalez.
>> Councelor Bombgartner
[10:57] » Gonzalez.
>> Councelor Profett Isabel.
[11:02] Councelor Quus.
>> Isabelle.
[11:05] » And Mayor Kefir.
>> But I appreciate you. I appreciate you.
[11:11] » Yes, Mary. Thank you.
[laughter]
[11:19] » So, with that, we'll go right to the
next part. Isabelle, we're going to
[11:24] swear you in.
>> Mayor Keeper,
[11:28] » Mayor Kefir, we need to make a motion to
appoint and then we can swear her in.
[11:33] » We got to do that.
>> We need to do that. Okay. I move to
[11:38] appoint Isabella Gonzalez as a council
member for the remainder of the term
[11:41] ending December 31st, 2026.
>> Second.
[11:45] » I got a motion in a second. Is there any
discussion?
[11:48] » All in favor say I.
>> I.
[11:50] » I. Any oppose?
>> Okay. Now I can swear you in.
[11:55] So after I swear you in, you get to uh
choose your position.
[12:00] » Or
>> Yeah. The one that's open.
[12:03] » The open one.
We'll help him here. I'll give you my
[12:09] copy and I'll have a copy and plus I
need my castes.
[12:23] » So, it's going to say I state my name.
>> I state my name.
[12:27] » Say your name.
>> Okay. So, I will say I and then you'll
[12:31] just state your name.
>> Raise your right hand. I,
[12:35] » Isabelle Gonzalez,
>> do solemnly swear that
[12:38] » I will support the Constitution.
>> No, you need to say repeat. So, you're
[12:41] gonna repeat after me.
[12:46] » That was a good We'll start going. I
>> Isabelle Gonzalez
[12:50] » do solemnly swear that
>> Do solemnly swear that
[12:52] » I will support the Constitution and laws
of the United States.
[12:56] » I will support the Constitution and the
laws of the United States.
[12:59] » I will support the Constitution and the
laws of the state of Oregon. I will
[13:03] support the constitution and the laws of
the state of Oregon.
[13:07] » I will support the charter and the
ordinances of the city of Boardman.
[13:10] » I will support the charter and the
ordinances of the city of Boardman.
[13:14] » And I will to the best of my ability
faithfully perform the duties of the
[13:17] city council member of the city of
Boardman. So help me God.
[13:21] » And I will to the best of my ability
faithfully perform the duties of a city
[13:26] council member of the city of Boardman.
So help me God.
[13:34] You bet. Now, you can post it right
there and we'll have your certificate
[13:39] next.
[13:52] So, also for uh
just a little notice, she's filling in
[13:58] and her term will end December 31st,
2026.
[14:14] Committee report.
Housing Advisory Committee.
[14:20] » Okay, we have Mr. Wildfire
is on.
[14:26] » Take it away, Nathan.
>> You guys hear me? Okay.
[14:32] » Yes, we hear you.
>> Yeah, give me a verbal. Thanks, Brandon.
[14:36] All right. Hi, everybody. Um, since I
last met you, our housing advisory
[14:41] committee has met uh weighed in on your
tax reimbursement uh incentive plan that
[14:48] I've spoken to you about multiple times.
Did the next iteration of the Colombia
[14:53] View master plan. Um and then also began
work on the feedback we got from our uh
[15:00] developer session where we invited about
12 different developers and land owners
[15:05] to give some advice to the city on what
what are some lowhanging fruit to
[15:10] change. Um one of the things that I'm
here to talk the primary thing I'm here
[15:14] to talk to you about is timeline
timeline for the development projects
[15:19] within the Colombia View master plan.
Um, I've been getting a lot of uh
[15:26] questions from both committee members
and staff and a few counselors. When
[15:31] when do things have to happen in order
for housing development to occur on the
[15:37] Columbia View site? What are the
important steps and what order they come
[15:43] in? And so, a lot of people wonder about
zoning changes. A lot of people wonder
[15:48] about finalizing the plat plat. A lot of
people wonder about when does the
[15:52] infrastructure work finish or um when do
we surplus land that sort of thing and
[15:59] so uh Brandon asked me to come and give
our advice from the housing advisory
[16:05] committee about how this might go and us
as the missing middle housing fund who
[16:10] are your housing adviserss. I invited
Gary Reic. Gary wave. Uh I don't know if
[16:15] anybody everyone can see Gary. Gary is
our designer and architect helping to
[16:21] lead the u the design for the Columbia
View Master Plan. And so I wanted to
[16:27] walk you through a few slides um that we
have ready for you to illustrate uh the
[16:34] different u paths that we can go. You've
seen some of these things um in plan
[16:41] form. Can everyone see that? Give me a
verbal.
[16:44] » Yes.
>> Okay, great. Uh so what you've seen
[16:48] before is over here on the eastern side
of the uh paper. Um this is Olsen Road
[16:56] and this is where we would have a new
public amphitheater that spills down
[17:01] onto the new Fourth Street with public
parking underneath
[17:07] uh retail that would be on this entire
big mega block. So, you'd have retail on
[17:13] the Olsen Road level and you'd have
parking underneath and a big set of
[17:18] steps that comes down to the uh plaza
below. You've all seen images of this
[17:24] before. [snorts]
Over here on the far left, that's a
[17:28] cottage cluster. So, a cottage cluster
just means smaller homes arranged around
[17:34] a central commons or green that is
shared by all of the different uh homes.
[17:40] They typically are a little bit smaller
in size. They typically are sold for a
[17:45] lesser price point than some of the
things you see currently for sale in
[17:50] Boardman. The intention is that they are
starter homes, which we've heard again
[17:54] and again and again from this council
and from the committee uh are things
[17:59] that are lacking in Boardman. Up on the
top on Boardman Avenue, the new vision
[18:04] would be to have a series of town homes.
We've shown you pictures of what those
[18:08] might look like before. But those again
would be home ownership and accessible
[18:14] to uh middle-income families, folks that
are again have buying their first house,
[18:20] that sort of thing.
A change that we're going to tell you
[18:23] about today is that originally we
thought this would be apartments. And so
[18:28] as you kind of get towards the central
core of the site, the buildings get a
[18:32] little bit bigger. Maybe they're
three-story walk up apartments. But
[18:36] we've been hearing uh a lot of feedback
lately from both committee members and
[18:42] counselors uh that h home ownership
ought to be the thing that we prioritize
[18:48] along with senior housing. So these
buildings here 6 7 and 8 9 10
[18:56] 12 13 14 we are reconsidering whether or
not those could be uh home ownership
[19:02] zones much like the town homes or maybe
something different but a home ownership
[19:07] option with this building 11 retained as
sort of the senior housing piece that
[19:12] empties right out onto the central
commons.
[19:16] So, we wanted to talk a little bit about
the importance of planning. Uh, because
[19:21] again, Brandon had said, you know, when
do when do certain things have to happen
[19:26] in order for us to get projects to just
begin and then get across the finish
[19:33] line? And the order of things matters.
You have processes. You have not done a
[19:39] master plan in your city since the main
street master plan in the 80s, but you
[19:44] do have these processes. We have one
chance to get this right and grow the
[19:51] right way. We just heard from your city
council candidates about growth. That
[19:55] was a primary issue I heard from uh both
folks. How do we grow the right way is
[20:01] something that the housing advisory
committee talks about a lot. And for
[20:06] them, the sense of place, the quality of
the housing, something they can be proud
[20:11] of, and the livability really, really
matter. You have to get that right
[20:18] before you begin to build. So, we want
to do things that enhance your city and
[20:24] make it better.
You don't need to surplus your land
[20:29] first. You don't need to update your
zoning code. You don't even need to uh
[20:36] finalize your plats in order to have a
great plan in place.
[20:43] The plan is the thing that is going to
attract your development community.
[20:47] Well, let's be real, some good
incentives. But the plan is the thing
[20:51] that ties it all together and creates
this new sense of place in this section
[20:57] of Boardman. Something that makes you
stand out on the map. An RFQ stands for
[21:03] request for qualifications. It's like a
request for proposals, but you're just
[21:08] trying to see who's interested. Who
would want to be a part of this plan?
[21:13] Who would want to build cottage cluster
homes? Who would want to build town
[21:18] homes on Boardman Avenue? Who would want
to build forale houses on a new central
[21:24] green or central commons that goes to
your new amphitheater?
[21:30] I'm here to tell you that you want as
many brains as possible around your
[21:36] table in Boardman. And if you are very
clear about your goals,
[21:43] your incentives, your parameters, right?
What they can't do, what you don't want.
[21:49] If you have clear timelines and clear
tools, you will get responses.
[21:54] Don't forget, you have a housing fund.
You own the land. You are putting in new
[22:02] infrastructure, streets, roads, sewer,
water. Right now, you have a very
[22:07] attractive place to build. So, we are
advising that you tell the world about
[22:15] the opportunity you have and the vision
that you have for Boardman and then see
[22:21] who puts their hat in the ring. Our goal
is to get these RFQS out in late
[22:27] September after the next housing
advisory committee meeting. We want them
[22:32] to take a look at it before it goes out
on the street. We want to bring the
[22:36] final master plan back to this council
in October. Uh for your comment, for
[22:42] your endorsement, uh we have to talk
about what the process is for you to
[22:47] formally adopt a plan. That plan would
of course show the vision, show the
[22:54] parameters, um, but also tell you about
what it's going to cost to do these
[22:59] public improvements.
You have an urban renewal district right
[23:03] there that can help bear some of the
cost of that. Uh, but you're going to
[23:08] need a phasing plan and an economic
analysis. Does this plan actually work?
[23:14] Does it bring the returns back to the
city that you need after you invested in
[23:18] the land? Does it actually build things
that folks in Boardman and moving to
[23:24] Boardman want and are willing to pay
for? You can't just build things that
[23:29] nobody actually wants to rent or buy.
So, we have to be very, very thoughtful
[23:34] about what we're proposing, how much it
costs, and whether it meets your market
[23:39] conditions. And by the way, it should go
without saying all of it has to be
[23:45] additive of your sense of place, your
character, your culture. That's why you
[23:52] have the housing committee and a city
council to ensure that it all happens
[23:57] the right way. Up like bullet point one,
the plats, and I'm going to show you uh
[24:03] what those are in a minute. uh those
would be updated in November reflective
[24:08] of the plan you would adopt in October.
You would choose development partners in
[24:13] December based on the responses you got
back in October and November.
[24:18] You would be updating your zoning code
to actually allow you to build the
[24:22] things you want to build in January,
part of your comprehensive plan and
[24:27] zoning code update. Meanwhile, the your
chosen developers would be assembling
[24:32] their project financing, finalizing deal
terms with the city since again you own
[24:37] the land. And then you would actually
surplus the land at that point because
[24:41] you know who's going to build what and
when it gets warm, you start building.
[24:47] So this is, you know, what we have uh
before you. The plat as they are being
[24:54] recorded right now don't necessarily
account for this forale piece on the
[24:59] south of Boardorman Avenue
nor are is the plat quite big enough to
[25:04] fit the cottage cluster we've been
contemplating in the southwest corner of
[25:08] the plan. So rather than rush the plats
that we were uh that we planned eight
[25:14] months ago before this plan was really
that far along, uh we're going to get it
[25:19] right and do it in November reflective
of this plan. These are uh in the yellow
[25:25] three zones where we're now
reconsidering whether these are
[25:29] apartment buildings or another flavor of
home ownership.
[25:35] Uh, I'm guessing the folks on Third
Street are going to take a very keen
[25:39] interest in what happens here. U, but
there might be an opportunity to have
[25:43] yet more home ownership, especially
attainable home ownership, a product
[25:48] that's often lacking in your uh, city
uh, built here. Uh, Gary and I are
[25:54] running the analysis on that and seeing
if that makes sense uh, financially and
[25:58] from a plan perspective. But this would
then also reflect newer plats that you
[26:03] would be updating. Your committee went
through this uh at their meeting this uh
[26:09] past month in August. The cottage
cluster in the southwest corner would be
[26:14] the first thing kind of off off to the
off to the presses. uh for sale
[26:20] attainable middle- inome pricing the you
know starter homes is another word for
[26:24] this again around a a central space
that's shared two spaces per unit that's
[26:29] parking uh we'd we'd send this RFQ out
um late September to figure out who are
[26:37] good cottage cluster developers across
Oregon that would have an interest in
[26:42] your plan in your city and then we would
set up a process by which you could
[26:46] choose what are the best development
partners and what's the best plan coming
[26:52] forward in accordance with what you
want. Same thing up on Boardman Avenue.
[26:58] It doesn't all have to be all at once.
We've thought about a lot like do we
[27:02] have multiple developers that have a
common design playbook but could uh
[27:07] essentially lower your risk of putting
all of your eggs in one basket and also
[27:13] lead to a diversity of housing both
product design style price points. So it
[27:20] could be you know chunks of this could
be different developers. Think of it
[27:25] kind of like that. Similar timeline as
before as the other ones. Um, and then
[27:33] this is kind of what we're looking at
here in the red circle. We think that
[27:36] that could be sort of a signature
building on the end of your central
[27:41] commons. Something that really stands
out and creates a sense of place. That
[27:45] could be uh a senior housing um
opportunity. could be more than just
[27:50] that one building, by the way, for
senior housing, but that's just the
[27:53] latest thinking. And then what we had
shown previously as apartment buildings,
[27:58] we're starting to wonder whether those
could be again home ownership fronting
[28:03] your central commons. Um the reason the
original plan worked so well
[28:09] economically is that we are packing a
lot of units into a smaller space which
[28:13] generally brings a greater uh return for
sale of land to the city. So we have to
[28:19] make sure that the city is making back
its capital with whatever plan uh
[28:25] ultimately gets proposed. Um, I've heard
from a lot of you many, many times. We
[28:32] know what we don't want
in Boardman. We've seen what we don't
[28:36] want. We don't want properties that are
poorly maintained. We don't want
[28:42] properties that have bad design and fall
apart too soon.
[28:47] We want buildings and homes and sense of
place that preserves and grows our
[28:55] character and is a place that the folks
who already live in Boardman can be
[28:59] proud of and your new neighbors moving
in uh feel like they're the luckiest
[29:05] folks in the world to have landed in
your city. We know that.
[29:11] So, this was the group activity we did
as a housing committee last time. Um,
[29:15] you can you'll see people's names in
here like Bobby or Ricardo or Gary or
[29:19] Mike or Brenda. These are some of the
things that people um talked a lot
[29:25] about. What's the right price point?
Folks would love it if there were things
[29:29] sold in the 300s in your city that that
felt like a really really great design.
[29:37] There is a trade-off.
>> Yeah.
[29:39] » Yeah.
>> There's a trade-off, right, between
[29:41] square footage and price. Um, unless you
have extraordinary
[29:46] subsidies,
uh, it's very hard to meet certain price
[29:50] points, especially in a place where
there are few contractors,
[29:53] um, and shipping is high. Gary and I
will tell you, we're building housing in
[29:58] Newberg right now, so we know exactly
how much it costs to build housing.
[30:04] Interest rates have a lot to do with the
affordability and the cost. Um, and the
[30:10] big question everyone keeps asking, why
does it cost less to buy more in
[30:13] Hermiston? So, we got to get to the
bottom of that, right?
[30:18] Diversity of options. Uh, what we hear
again and again, um, we want multiple
[30:24] choice. We don't want a cookie cutter
unit that happens 100, 200 times in
[30:30] Boardman. We want choice.
We want to have um designs that can be
[30:37] replicated but also seem unique and
create a sense of place. The best
[30:43] neighborhoods everybody on the committee
has been to are places that have
[30:47] different buildings on each block.
Um,
[30:51] » Nathan.
>> Yeah,
[30:52] » Nathan, just the I just want to point
out um the I I think that you're just um
[30:58] summarizing what what people on the
committee said, but that kind of sounded
[31:03] like a contradiction, right? Because the
reason the cookie cutters exist is
[31:07] because it significantly lowers the
cost.
[31:10] » Nailed it. You got it. So, what do you
do?
[31:15] » Right.
>> Right. So, that's that's our job. Our
[31:19] job is to figure out how we can deliver
homes at affordable prices while
[31:24] preserving character and diversity. You
you you nailed the trade-off. You nailed
[31:29] it. Um you can create a variety of a
look within a cluster but still have the
[31:35] guts of a house be predominantly the
same. Um and again, what are the
[31:42] incentives that the city can offer that
help defay cost or time? Some of those
[31:48] could be things like subordinating the
cost of the land, like a developer
[31:53] doesn't actually pay you for the land
until the homes sell. That's a that's a
[31:58] big incentive for a developer um that
reduces their risk and increases their
[32:03] ability to get financing uh but
ultimately can help lower cost, right?
[32:09] You as a city can make loans. You can
make investments. You can make grants
[32:14] with your housing fund to help defay
cost. You already are installing
[32:21] infrastructure throughout a lot of this
site. That's already a huge u defay of
[32:27] certain costs. You have your urban
renewal district which can help pay for
[32:32] some of this pre-development work.
[snorts] I'm going to keep going. You
[32:38] guys are good readers. Parking. We
talked a lot about parking. Uh rural
[32:43] cities typically uh need two spaces per
unit. When you start getting less than
[32:49] that, it becomes harder to sell your uh
forale products. So, it's just more
[32:56] common to have uh multiple places to put
your car.
[33:02] for creating retail and park space, the
parking demand just got bigger. I've
[33:09] said this many times. Uh you've got to
make sure you've got a way that you're
[33:12] breaking even on your land. And by the
way, some of the things that Gary is
[33:18] proposing aren't actually possible with
your current city code. So, your zoning
[33:24] code has to be updated. That process is
underway right now. You don't have to
[33:29] have your code updated to tell
developers about what you're updating it
[33:35] to. You can get them excited about your
plan and the opportunity to build in
[33:40] your city before you actually have your
zoning codes completely finished. So, we
[33:48] we would be an advocate for keep doing
your process, keep updating your
[33:51] comprehensive plan and your zoning code.
And then could this be an opportunity
[33:57] since there might be so much happening
all at once to test out improvements or
[34:02] streamlining or efficiencies
with your permitting system.
[34:07] Okay, this is the the same slide from
the very beginning and I'm going to
[34:11] pause here because I asked Gary to join
us to um to to reiterate why having a
[34:18] plan matters.
If you don't know Gary, here's Gary Re
[34:24] from Iris Design.
>> I didn't I just unmuted myself. I
[34:28] thought that might help. Um, you know, I
was thinking uh earlier today um though
[34:37] Nathan and I got officially under
contract in April. We were working with
[34:43] the city on the contract going back and
forth between January and April, but we
[34:48] were also huddling clear back in October
about the prospect that this work might
[34:54] be coming forward. And at that time, I
got my hands on
[34:59] what [clears throat] I think was an
inrogress
[35:01] document from Cascadia.
Really well put together color.
[35:08] I don't know, it might have had a 100
pages in it. Uh but one section in there
[35:14] particularly was uh of interest to me
and that was the four
[35:20] um
workshop community workshops that were
[35:24] held through the summer. I think there
were in total 7 or 800 people that
[35:31] signed up in for those within those four
workshops.
[35:35] And so there was a lot of listing in
there about the comments about what
[35:40] people wanted with their city. And I've
worked with a lot of cities. I I came
[35:46] from a great small town. I moved to a
another great small town. I I know what
[35:53] kind of ingredients it takes to make a
place that people really want to stay
[35:57] in. And [clears throat] and so one of
the one of the the uh notes in there was
[36:04] kind of listing here's what here's what
were people were quoting they were
[36:08] wanting. And one of them forever more
has is has uh has kind of been my
[36:14] guiding light.
And this person said I want Boardman to
[36:19] be so nice and attractive that my kids
will want to come back here after
[36:24] college.
if [clears throat]
[36:28] that that sentence has been my
inspiration, you know, right up to this
[36:34] moment and and beyond. And so, you know,
in the tools that I have in the
[36:38] experience that I have,
um, [clears throat] I could, you know, I
[36:42] said long ago, I couldn't be more
excited because I thought I I had some
[36:47] experience that I could bring to this
situation and make a difference. And so
[36:52] in a way I kind of become part of
Boardman
[36:56] uh in a in a feeling of ownership and
owning the kind of places I would make
[37:01] if I wanted to live there.
And so [clears throat] that's that's
[37:05] what we've been doing over the last few
months. And uh and we're getting close
[37:10] to talking about, you know, what is what
is phase one? What are the first pieces
[37:15] of the plan that get implemented?
What might it look like? And we've
[37:20] [clears throat] had those conversations,
Nate and I, and others,
[37:24] you know, within the last few days. And
I So, I guess I would um leave you with,
[37:30] not that I need to, you can come back
and and ask me questions, but I'd leave
[37:35] you with kind of a mantra of mine in
doing this kind of work and seeing what
[37:40] to do and what not to do. And I think
what you'll always hear from me is do
[37:46] something great first.
The alternative is you do something
[37:51] mediocre first and the rest of the
community and and people that are
[37:58] watching it from afar and from other
communities that will be whatever you do
[38:03] first is going to be a big message of
the vision and and hope
[38:09] that you have for in a way building this
new town.
[38:15] » So that was thanks Gary. Um, oh that's
the end. So Brandon, I think one of the
[38:21] things that you had wanted to make sure
folks were comfortable with was the
[38:26] notion that we would ensure that the
plat are in uh concurrent with the the
[38:34] current thinking on the plan. Is that
right?
[38:37] » Yeah. So um
I I hope every because again I I I
[38:45] become the middleman. I I get the I get
the discussions that people come to me
[38:49] and and I share that with Nathan and and
I hope everyone is hearing the fact that
[38:54] people want homes to sell. He absolutely
has addressed that. The other thing we
[38:59] talked about was abs having a clear
timeline. Again, I get very frustrated
[39:03] and I share my thoughts with Nathan
because I I do I want it like let's go,
[39:07] let's dig it. Um
but also we need to make sure you guys
[39:13] are okay with that process. So like he
said the original plat which is not
[39:19] complete yet we thought let's pull back
so we can do it exactly how we would
[39:26] then go surplus it. And if you're okay
with that please understand that the
[39:32] plat process it has to go to planning
commission again
[39:37] they approve it or don't and then
there's a review process. Carla, don't
[39:43] jump in. And then there's a review
process and then it like the planning
[39:48] commission has to approve this. I mean,
it it takes a while and we have to have
[39:54] 35 days to take it to the planning
commission. So to our planning
[39:58] commission. So there really is like set
guidelines that take months to do, but
[40:05] we just felt we needed to come back
because the plat was we're going to have
[40:09] to go and replplat it anyway. So, if
you're okay with that timeline and that
[40:14] process, the hope is to have maybe a
little more clear plat. I mean, do you
[40:20] guys want the whole plat just like
exactly how we're going to go and
[40:23] surplus it, which puts a little more in
the design?
[40:27] » I jump in. Remember, like you don't have
to slow down
[40:32] just because you're going through this
plat finalization process. You can still
[40:37] be telling the world what your plan is
for the plat, what your plan is for the
[40:44] zoning, and assemble the correct
development partners,
[40:49] their financing,
their partners and investors. Like, it
[40:53] can all happen
>> at the same time.
[40:57] » Yeah. Don't don't think like if you're
just because it takes a while to do your
[41:01] plats and your zoning, that doesn't mean
you hit timeout on everything else.
[41:05] » Oh, no. Not by any means, but in order
for us to surplus the property, it has
[41:10] to go through the plat has to be
approved. That's several months out. I
[41:13] mean, I think right now Carl and I
visited if we did it now, it would have
[41:18] the plat would have to be a preliminary
design by next week in order to make it
[41:23] to the October meeting, then get it to
the council or the county by December,
[41:30] then we would surplus it by January. I
don't think that's going to happen. So
[41:35] that's the process. We can't we cannot
surplus it and sell it until it goes
[41:39] through the plat. But you're right, like
all of this is still going to go on.
[41:42] He's going to do the RFQ.
>> You're not going to start building
[41:45] anything in January anyway. So like, you
know, if you found developers tomorrow,
[41:51] they wouldn't start building until the
spring anyhow. So
[41:54] » yeah, but it does just take time. So if
you like I just need some guidance like
[41:59] do you want the whole thing platted? So
it is how hey this is how we're going to
[42:04] sell it which will go back.
>> I'm just going to say from me it's going
[42:09] way too slow. Okay. And I'm just but I
know that I'm goal oriented and I want
[42:15] you know I got something on my list. I
want to get it done. I've only been on
[42:19] the committee for a few minutes you know
but it's too too slow.
[42:25] » And again that is like trying to help
you.
[42:27] » All I'm saying is let's keep it moving.
Don't put any touch the brakes.
[42:32] [laughter]
>> Yeah, I've been hounding Nathan from the
[42:36] beginning about the details.
Um because I want to put buildings on
[42:41] the ground right away on the same page.
Keep rolling.
[42:45] » Absolutely. Please.
>> I do want to work on that price point
[42:49] though. I think 300 and 325 is too high.
>> Yeah.
[42:54] » And I second that. Um I did a quick
search um just on Windendemir and we
[42:59] currently have seven properties for sale
here in Boardman. All over,200 square
[43:03] feet, threebedroom, two sometimes some
three bathrooms, all have garages
[43:07] between 300 and 330,000
seven. So we need to find a lower price
[43:13] point because if there's seven
properties for sale and we're looking
[43:15] for something for lower income, we need
to be lower than that.
[43:23] » Cool.
you're next in line.
[43:27] » Paul hears it from me every day.
>> But but regardless, I I do think we need
[43:33] to come back and just
do make sure the plat is correct.
[43:39] » So because right now we would if they
approve the plat as of right now, we we
[43:43] are going to have to go and send it to a
replat because we can't do the cottage
[43:46] cluster. It's not sectioned out the way
the housing is. It's just the top of
[43:52] north of Boardman Avenue. We want them
to do them all along and it's not
[43:56] platted like that.
>> Yeah. And I think that was your question
[44:00] was just, you know, like are we
>> okay
[44:03] » okay with doing that? And I am.
>> I don't. Yes.
[44:07] » Sounds like the consensus is go for it.
>> And you does that sound.
[44:13] » I don't like it.
>> The what?
[44:20] » I don't like Yeah. I don't like the
cottage clusters.
[44:24] Um, I agree with the town homes. I think
that if we're going to build town homes
[44:28] and they're going to be $300,000, I'd
rather buy a house.
[44:34] So, if you're going to build the same
square footage, same rooms, same
[44:38] bedrooms.
>> Y,
[44:40] » nobody's going to want to buy that
unless they absolutely have to live in
[44:43] Boardman
>> because the houses that we currently
[44:45] have have lawns.
>> Yeah.
[44:47] » And they're on goodsized lots between
the 300 and 330,000. Nobody's going to
[44:52] want to pay that same price for a
cottage.
[44:55] » Your kids can play in the backyard. You
can let your dog out that you have a
[44:58] fence,
[45:02] » which I think is all good feedback for
Nathan. But you were just asking about
[45:06] » the plaid pl
>> and again
[45:09] » with
consideration the square footage of the
[45:12] lot too.
>> Correct. And that that is the benefit
[45:16] what has been discussed with the cottage
clusters is because the purpose of those
[45:20] in my mind again I agree to have it
lower but because the like the homes are
[45:26] closer together we're getting more on
there so we can bring it lower and I've
[45:30] heard 250 before um
>> yeah I'm I'm $75,000 less around the
[45:37] board to 100 grand less.
>> That's what I think the cottage cluster
[45:40] benefit would be. and um he put it up
there on one of the charts, but uh Gary
[45:46] told us about a gentleman who does
cottage clusters in all kinds of sizes
[45:50] and shapes and he doesn't do cookie
cutter, but he does something that
[45:55] allows the guts to be the same and just
changes the dormer or the, you know,
[46:00] something on the outside to give it a
different feel. Um and his name is Ross
[46:06] Chapen, I think. So those are those were
really beautiful designs that we saw
[46:12] that this guy wrote a whole book about
it. So
[46:15] » yeah, and and ultimately when we talk
about we bought the land for $4 a square
[46:19] foot. We are not trying to recoup any of
the road costs which is like 4 million.
[46:24] All of the road costs are going to come
back through the urban renewal. So
[46:28] that's great. We really are trying to
recoup the three million which should
[46:32] help us with being able to sell that and
have a lower price point. Cool.
[46:39] » Uh it might be helpful just to do some
math.
[46:44] So the about the cheapest you can create
a house for right now in Oregon is about
[46:50] 175 uh bucks a square foot. That's about
the cheapest.
[46:56] Uh most are coming in much much higher
than that. But let's just pretend you
[47:01] could build it in Boardman for 175 bucks
a square foot. and you want a 1,500 ft
[47:08] house, that's already at $262,000
just there. That's not inclusive of land
[47:15] or SDC fees or permitting or the cost of
lending. That's just construction.
[47:23] So, you can see how the cost to just
literally create a single 1500 ft home
[47:29] in today's
economic realities gets you above 300
[47:34] really fast. Now, there are ways that
you can build homes for a lot less than
[47:39] that,
but they typically are the types of
[47:42] homes that I've heard you all say you
didn't necessarily want.
[47:47] So, a thing that might um be helpful
that I would offer to this council is we
[47:53] did a
um we did like a developer 101 session
[47:59] and we could do that with your local
development community uh where we would
[48:04] just do a workshop
um for anybody on council that wants to
[48:09] uh to just essentially have several of
your local folks uh walk through how how
[48:16] they create a new unit and what their
risk is and what their financing risks
[48:22] are and what their costs are. Um because
it it helps it helps create a shared
[48:28] understanding of uh how do we get where
we want to get and what are we willing
[48:32] to spend to get there. Uh what what are
we not willing to accept from a quality
[48:39] or size standpoint?
um
[48:44] the product that you have right now, uh
your seven houses, um we'd have to
[48:50] figure out why are they not selling? Why
are they at that price point? We can dig
[48:55] in. That's that's what we do.
[49:00] So my question is, you know, we're
spending a lot of time
[49:04] saying, you know, since we're the
council, we get to decide sort of thing.
[49:08] But what if a contractor comes in and
goes, I'll build, but I'm not building
[49:12] any of that stuff. This is what I will
build. Now, now what?
[49:17] » Well, you own the land, so you don't
have to sell to anyone unless they build
[49:21] what you want them to build. That would
be part of your purchase and sales
[49:25] agreement, right? As you sell your
different parcels of land, you would
[49:30] have in the actual sales agreement what
a developer is agreeing to actually do.
[49:36] Timelines, financing, you could
stipulate price points.
[49:40] » What I'm saying is what if there's
nobody out there that wants to do what
[49:44] we want? They're going to come back and
say, "Hey, look, I I'll build for you,
[49:49] but you have to go this direction." You
know,
[49:53] » then you'll have to make a choice. If no
one wants no one wants to or can build
[49:58] what you want, it won't get built.
>> And um you mentioned something about
[50:05] 1500 square ft. Um most of us here that
bought our first homes, it was 1,000
[50:12] square feet. It was a three-bedroom, one
bath with a single car garage. That is a
[50:16] starter home. A 1500T home was the third
house that I bought because I worked up
[50:21] to that. So, a 1500 square foot home is
not a starter home.
[50:26] » Yeah, that that was just a math problem,
but yes, I agree.
[50:30] » Well, and and no, that's good direction.
So, the direction is let's work on the
[50:35] plat. We're good with the timing and
price point needs to be below like 250
[50:40] and
>> under.
[50:41] » Okay. I think
>> and and again, that's the guidance that
[50:44] the the housing committee needs to hear.
That's what we need to hear and that
[50:48] will take care of that.
>> Cool.
[50:53] Okay.
>> Thank you, Nathan.
[50:55] » You're welcome.
>> Have any questions,
[50:58] » comments?
>> I was just going to suggest that if
[51:00] Isabelle will look into the Ross Chapen.
Uh he did a book called uh Pocket
[51:05] Neighborhoods and he's got lots of
pictures online
[51:10] that you can look at and you can see how
he changed the homes and what he did and
[51:15] what the pocket neighborhood benefit
was. Anyway,
[51:19] » I know we're jumping ahead, but I have
an idea for somebody for the housing
[51:23] committee on our action items.
>> And thank you too, Gary, for coming.
[51:29] Appreciate that.
>> Thanks, Nathan.
[51:32] » Thank you.
>> Thank you, Nathan.
[51:39] All right, we're time for the public
comment.
[51:43] Public comment period is an essential
part of our local government meetings
[51:47] and our council takes community input
into consideration. However, in
[51:51] observance of Oregon open meeting laws,
this isn't the time for dialogue, but
[51:55] rather a time for us to listen to you.
Our city manager will direct staff to
[52:00] follow up with you regarding your
comments or questions. Anyone may speak
[52:05] on any topic other than a matter in
litigation, a quasi judicial land use
[52:10] matter, or a matter scheduled for public
hearing at some future date. Each person
[52:16] has three minutes to speak. Uh when your
name is called, proceed to the podium
[52:20] and speak clearly into the microphone.
Begin [clears throat] stating by your
[52:24] name and address name and address and
then express your view or offer your
[52:30] suggestions in a courteous and
considerate manner. Remember to direct
[52:34] all remarks and questions to the council
through the mayor. It is not appropriate
[52:38] to address the audience or the staff.
Is there anybody in
[52:45] person that would like to speak?
>> My point where I can get to talk.
[52:50] » This is your
>> could be You're on the left.
[52:53] » Okay.
>> Oh, for uh chamber.
[52:57] » Yeah, you're later. Yeah. Is there
anybody online that would like to
[53:03] share any comments?
[53:09] Okay. Having seeing none, uh we saw a
public comment. You got an email from
[53:15] Jonathan Tolman. I hope everybody had a
chance to take a look and read at that.
[53:21] There was a correspondence
from the Oregon Rural Action. They sent
[53:26] a letter.
[53:30] And then we have the Boardman Chamber of
Commerce. It is your monthly report. Is
[53:37] that where you would like to share? Yes,
you are. It's your time.
[53:41] » So, in your packet, I think you guys
have the August month.
[53:45] » Yes.
>> Oh, yes. I'm on it. I can handle a mic.
[53:49] Um, but I am going to give you the
September one because I'm it's gonna
[53:56] just give you right there. Um, so the
September one's a little different than
[53:59] the August. Uh, so September I just we
are going through growth zone. Uh, the
[54:04] chamber has a chamber membership program
that it used to be chamber master. It's
[54:08] now growth zone. It's more of a
user-friendly um online platform for our
[54:13] chamber management. And that being said
though, if you had to login with the
[54:18] other program, you have to create a
whole new program. So, please go find
[54:22] those emails. They coming through the
newsletter. They're coming directly from
[54:26] us. They're we've sent them out numerous
times. It's very important because if
[54:30] you don't have that login, you won't be
able to um register events,
[54:36] put on job postings, and uh and uh
attend events and different stuff. So,
[54:42] we need that really to be registered and
create those accounts. Um, we have an
[54:46] upcoming uh the other thing is we're
working on is we're redoing the visitors
[54:51] guide. So, our visitors guide will be
coming out in January of 2027. This will
[54:56] be our guide that is going to go across
the state of Oregon to the Travel Oregon
[55:00] welcome centers. We're going to be
printing about 20,000 of those guides.
[55:04] Our current guide is in the Travel
Oregon already. We pay about $7,000 to
[55:09] place that across the state of Oregon.
We use some county tourism dollars that
[55:12] we request requested through a grant and
that is to promote Boardman and Mororrow
[55:18] County. Inside the guide is an
opportunity to advertise your small
[55:22] business and that is to be seen. We are
using that as a relocation guide, an
[55:27] adventure guide. Um
we're actually promoting the um small
[55:34] businesses to come here to add asset
amenities to our housing so we can go
[55:39] handinhand with our housing with our
amenities in our community so we can
[55:43] offer more services and uh also just
kind of spotlight our chamber members
[55:48] and everything that they do plus our
major events that bring in tourism as in
[55:52] like the fishing tournament that we just
held, the end of summer celebration and
[55:56] the um fourth of July. So, Fourth of
July recaps that we received on some
[56:01] data on that, we had a little over 2,000
people and through comm um interviews
[56:06] that we conducted during the day down
there, the majority of the people that
[56:10] stayed at the RV park came from
Portland, Seattle, California, and
[56:16] Washington deeper into Washington like
Spokane side. So, that is a tourism. So,
[56:20] if you are considering a tourist person,
anybody that travels over 60 miles is
[56:24] considered a tourist. So if you want to
look at our employment, 30% of our
[56:29] people that drive to Borman every day
are tourists. So we get to track them as
[56:33] a tourist. So um we're really trying to
flip that script as well as bringing um
[56:38] 62% of our employment comes from out of
the area. We're really trying to flip
[56:42] that and get that to be a little heavier
on the percentage of living where they
[56:46] work. And that is going handinhand with
the development of homes plus retail
[56:50] space and amenities to offer that. So if
we can continue to promote our boardman
[56:55] a place to live and work and Mororrow
County then that is working to meet our
[57:00] needs as a chamber as well. So you'll
see some funky advertising. Um we have
[57:05] worked really hard with this company.
It's called Lunar Cow. They are working
[57:09] to change their marketing. Um but we are
doing majority of the marketing
[57:13] ourselves to get people to place an
advertisement in there. We just wrapped
[57:17] up in a summer celebration. That was a
big event. It actually ended up being a
[57:21] bigger event than we had planned. Um we
it was a night to celebrate the end of
[57:26] summer celebration but also a time to
recognize our fire department and police
[57:29] department and partnerships with what
they are doing to provide services to
[57:34] our community and get to know our police
department. Uh we were able to partner
[57:38] with a couple local food vendors to
provide free food and Telmuk came over
[57:42] and provided free ice cream and as
everybody can see that they were very
[57:46] busy and they're going to actually
revamp how they serve food serve next
[57:50] year. Last year uh this next year they
uh had a little miscommunication and
[57:54] didn't realize that they were only
supposed to do like three ice creams and
[57:57] scoops but they did everything. Um so
bless them for opportunity to providing
[58:02] that. And then we also had the fishing
tournament. fishing tournament was a
[58:05] great success. Saturday was a little
sketchy for our fishermen. Um I think
[58:09] they kept our fire department very busy
on top of everything else that was
[58:12] happening that day and recovery efforts
had to take place even on Sunday. So um
[58:17] but those guys came from all over the US
as well and we had a great turnout. We
[58:21] had 61 professional fishermen, 110
fishermen total. They came from all the
[58:27] way from Texas to Nebraska to Canada,
all over. They spent pretty much six
[58:33] full days in our community and um
reserve spaces in our RV park. So that
[58:38] was another great tourist opportunity
which brought our community which also
[58:41] they spent money at our um gas stations,
our restaurants and our hotel years. And
[58:47] we're going to be seeing an uptick in
that. They are looking to host another
[58:51] super 60 next year which is another the
next level of the tournament above what
[58:56] they did this year. So there's a proam
this year. Next year it's going to be a
[59:00] super 60. It's one of their top six um
pro events they're going to host here.
[59:05] Uh the winner bagged 20 lbs of fish on
Friday, 20 pounds of fish on Saturday,
[59:11] and 18 pounds of fish on Sunday. Even
with the high winds, he was able to. He
[59:16] was a local guy out of Tri Cities. And
then our amateur guy was one of the guys
[59:20] from the local area as well. So, it was
exciting to see that. But, um and then
[59:24] we had the kids fishing thing event on
Sunday. We had 210 kids come down and
[59:30] get free rods and reels. And then the
pro fishermen that were not
[59:35] participating in the championship sat
and tied um hooks on and put worms on.
[59:41] And we had a slew of kids that come
down. They've never fished a day in
[59:44] their life. Got to sit out on the dock.
And I was I did not realize this, but
[59:48] our little dock, you throw it in the and
you're going to catch a fish like this
[59:53] fast. And so the pros were having fun
down there. So they went back and
[59:56] actually we ran out of worms and ran out
of stuff to support the kids. So they
[1:00:00] ran back to their boats, pulled out
their private stuff and used their
[1:00:03] personal stuff to support the kids and
sat right there and took the hooks and
[1:00:07] took the fish off the hooks and it was a
great day of um getting the next
[1:00:11] generation into fishing. And then our
next upcoming event is our third quarter
[1:00:16] lunchon which is on September 16th. that
is going to be uh our gu our title
[1:00:21] sponsor is uh Lamb Weston and then we
will have Brian Nelson with Amazon
[1:00:26] coming and speaking about Amazon's
impact in the region and then uh AI
[1:00:32] rescue resources which is a connection
with uh Chief Hughes as a business that
[1:00:37] he has which is offers AI services for
answering phones and kind of automating
[1:00:42] your um upfront office space to
alleviate that upfront work to allow for
[1:00:48] staff to be a little more efficient
behind the scenes and not answer the
[1:00:52] crazy phone calls and get rid of the
robot calls. Uh just a quick recap on
[1:00:58] the or touch on the candy crawl
registration is open for the Halloween
[1:01:02] event at state center on Saturday the on
Halloween day and uh we continue just to
[1:01:07] achieve our uh mission of visibility,
voice and value for boatman. So any
[1:01:12] questions for me? That's a lot. But we
are in the midst of revamping a lot of
[1:01:17] things. So, please follow our social
media pages and uh watch for emails
[1:01:22] because uh changing in uh invoicing and
the program has been a big change. And
[1:01:28] we're also going to be updating our
website and our website will be able to
[1:01:31] be translated here pretty soon as a
click of a button as well. So, we're
[1:01:34] excited about that.
>> I do have a comment something about the
[1:01:39] end of summer. Mhm.
>> Um, our end of summer's kind of almost
[1:01:42] becoming it's a really nice thing, but
it's I think it's starting to overshadow
[1:01:49] the main purpose of what that
>> beat what that event is. it's always
[1:01:54] been for the first responders and uh
it's kind of a catch 22
[1:02:03] and so I would I would like to see it at
in a positive way is how do we
[1:02:10] incorporate
all the stuff we do but still not
[1:02:16] overshadowing the first responders.
>> Yeah. And so my um I spoke in links with
[1:02:22] Chief Hughes and Chief Stokco about that
regarding that same concern. And that
[1:02:27] was actually kind of a transition of new
staff not understanding the event
[1:02:31] completely, but also the park and wreck
uh making changes on me that I was not
[1:02:35] aware of of where they were placing the
equipment. I was not aware that they had
[1:02:39] decided to stick everything in the
parking lot. And that was a conversation
[1:02:42] that I will be having again with George
re um regarding the placement of the
[1:02:47] police department and the fire
department's equipment and be in the
[1:02:49] front and center. Um I just assumed that
was my fault far um fault on assuming
[1:02:55] that that they were not going to be
placed near the stage where we could
[1:02:58] have a spotlight on them. So that will
not happen again and uh staff is very
[1:03:03] aware of the changing the direction that
needs to go. that that's more of just
[1:03:06] the uh
positive feedback to get back because
[1:03:10] » No, I agree.
>> Um,
[1:03:12] » everybody enjoys going down there. I
mean,
[1:03:16] » having the opportunity to have another
fireworks display, that's pretty cool.
[1:03:20] » And uh just remembering to not
overshadow and that that was really
[1:03:25] » Yeah. And we have some fun things that
we're going to offer next year for our
[1:03:29] uh end of summer celebration and Fourth
of July that will actually make a bigger
[1:03:32] impact on thanking people and doing
things a little cooler and a little
[1:03:37] different. So
>> very cool.
[1:03:39] » I thought it was a great I don't know
what other people thought be able to
[1:03:44] have the food vendors thought that was a
unique kind of different swing and that
[1:03:49] was kind of cool. We like the food
vendor idea because they were able to
[1:03:52] just come in and serve, but we by
splitting them up and spacing them out,
[1:03:56] it actually split the food lines up a
little bit more and allowed people to
[1:04:01] get through and get their food a little
bit better. Uh, and that was just
[1:04:05] working with them as first time trying
to do that and trying to the food is
[1:04:09] covered, the cost of the food is covered
and we're like, how do we provide free
[1:04:14] food and you keep track of how that and
we can reimburse you for that? It's been
[1:04:18] a real learning process for everybody.
>> I bet that was because there was one
[1:04:22] vendor that was like trying to get
people to come. Come come in by coming
[1:04:26] in by I was like, "Oh,
>> yeah.
[1:04:28] » Must be a tally."
>> Yeah, there was a tally. Yes. Yes, there
[1:04:32] is a tally. So, we don't know. It's a
little open-ended at the moment. It's on
[1:04:36] a trusty.
>> That was kind of a unique twist to it,
[1:04:38] but
>> Yeah. But it was allowed.
[1:04:40] » Good. Good thing.
>> Perfect. Yeah. And we allowed the option
[1:04:43] of the snow cones and ice creams to kind
of hopefully alleviate the pressure on
[1:04:47] tie, but that still did not happen.
Everybody wants their tie ice cream. So,
[1:04:52] any other questions?
>> You didn't go early. You didn't get it
[1:04:54] or you had to wait a long time.
>> A long time. Yeah. So, thank you very
[1:04:58] much.
>> Thank you.
[1:04:59] » Did you want to share with BCDA too?
>> Love to share. I just saw it was a
[1:05:03] report in there and I didn't get to
share. So, uh that is exciting news
[1:05:08] where we are right now. We are finally
at 30% construction conceptional design
[1:05:13] for this the new retail um facility
and um from here you guys might be able
[1:05:21] to see it but that is the conceptional
design of where we are on the building.
[1:05:26] It has a really really cool concept.
It's really modern. We're going to keep
[1:05:29] it to the um modern industrial vibe that
we have with the Sage Center and the
[1:05:34] Neil Early Learning and the BMTC um
facility down there. And this is going
[1:05:38] to be 20,000 square feet, two stories.
It has um 75% tenant lease uh intend to
[1:05:46] lease on it already. We will have
additional four spaces for incubator
[1:05:50] buildings that we are going to work on
getting them started at below uh um
[1:05:57] average rental rates. And over a
fiveyear slide, we'll ri we'll move them
[1:06:01] and by the end of five years at the
lease into that, they will get to the
[1:06:05] real market value lease. And then
hopefully by then we have our second
[1:06:09] building built and we can move them over
to a full-time position into the other
[1:06:14] building and then we can bring in the
next um retail space in there. This is
[1:06:18] uh looking to be a really cool building
and it's exciting. Uh it's a big feat
[1:06:24] for our nonprofit board for Boardman
Community Development Association, but
[1:06:27] it's a very good use of our enterprise
zone dollars to reinvest back into
[1:06:31] Boardman and provide that. Uh the other
thing is our home buyers incentive. We
[1:06:36] don't have that many um applications
left and we are just in August and homes
[1:06:40] are buying are selling faster than we
can imagine. Uh so but uh part of my
[1:06:46] work is going out and talking to
developers and and saying to people we
[1:06:51] got to get down below that 300 thou
300,000 threshold. And that is a big
[1:06:56] conversation. I continue to recruit
developers. I just spoke with two
[1:06:59] developers this last week actually that
have um similar projects in other
[1:07:03] communities that they're coming to meet
and look at um opportunities here in
[1:07:07] Boardman and they have uh ways of
utilizing state dollars and federal
[1:07:12] dollars that they are awarded to invest
in Boardman to buy down the cost of a
[1:07:18] home so the upfront cost is not costing
costing the buyer as much and they
[1:07:23] recoup those recoup those costs over a
10-year plan. It's a pretty cool
[1:07:26] concept. It's newer. Um, but this is
comes as the developer that has these
[1:07:30] opportunities. And this is something he
has. And so he is actually gonna be
[1:07:35] coming to Boardman here soon. So I hope
he can be maybe part of that project and
[1:07:40] uh get those home values down to that
250 275. And they are looking to be
[1:07:45] about 900 ft to,000 ft homes, which is
where you guys I I believe is also
[1:07:52] workforce affordable homes.
And then the pickle ball court is
[1:07:56] exciting. Uh we're removing removing the
location of that. It's going to be in a
[1:08:00] space where we have more amenities where
we can actually have bathrooms support
[1:08:04] with the basketball court and the
existing play structure and be able to
[1:08:08] house and host uh pickle ball
tournaments here.
[1:08:13] So that's mainly what we're focusing on
right now. I say that's just mainly
[1:08:17] those are two big large projects plus
our home buyers incentive and then
[1:08:21] everything else. So any other questions?
[1:08:26] Thanks, Tori.
>> Thanks.
[1:08:32] » All right, we're down to our uh
consent agenda.
[1:08:40] Anybody have any questions or comments
about our consent agenda?
[1:08:45] » I move to approve the consent agenda as
presented.
[1:08:49] » I'll second.
>> A motion, a second. Is there any
[1:08:53] discussion?
All in favor say I.
[1:08:57] » I. I.
>> Any oppose? [clears throat]
[1:09:00] » All right.
Action items. Ordinance 14-2026,
[1:09:06] an ordinance amending the Boardman
municipal code to amend Title 8 health
[1:09:12] and safety.
>> So again, we're just going to keep
[1:09:16] bringing these municipal code updates.
We're just trying to make them cleaner,
[1:09:20] more concise. We're trying to make it
more streamlined, you know, more
[1:09:24] consistent with the law. Um, uh, chapter
or title 8 or whatever it's Yeah, title
[1:09:32] eight. Um, it is like city well we
oversee these. This is like uh what our
[1:09:40] um community engagement would you know
enforce and this is our code. So any
[1:09:46] questions or
[1:09:52] I move to approve the reading by title
only of ordinance 14-2026,
[1:09:56] an ordinance amending the Boardman
municipal code to amend title 8 health
[1:10:01] and safety.
>> Second and a motion and second. Is there
[1:10:04] any other discussion?
>> All in favor say I.
[1:10:08] » I.
>> I. Any oppose?
[1:10:11] A staff member reads the title.
Ordinance 14-2026,
[1:10:17] an ordinance amending the Boardman
Municipal Code to amend Title 8 Health
[1:10:22] and Safety
[1:10:26] » and adoption.
>> I move to adopt ordinance 14-2026,
[1:10:33] an ordinance amending the Boardman
Municipal Code to amend Title 8 Health
[1:10:38] and Safety.
>> Second. Got a motion, a second. Does
[1:10:42] anyone have any discussion?
All in favor say I.
[1:10:46] » I.
>> I. Any oppose.
[1:10:51] All right. So we will go to
ordinance 15206.
[1:10:59] An ordinance amending the Boardman
Municipal Code to amend Title 10
[1:11:04] vehicles and traffic.
>> Perfect.
[1:11:08] So
what this really does is it this is
[1:11:13] distinct
to hey the PD covers this the city
[1:11:18] covers that. So we're really trying to
make it clear
[1:11:24] and that is basically the title 10
vehicles and traffic PD will oversee
[1:11:29] that. Um again they're able to run the
plates. some of these things are going
[1:11:33] to be a little more consistent to them
having better resources.
[1:11:39] So,
[1:11:43] I move to approve the reading by title
only of ordinance 15-2026,
[1:11:48] an ordinance amending the boardman
municipal code to amend title 10
[1:11:51] vehicles and traffic.
>> I'll second that.
[1:11:55] » I got a motion in a second. Is there any
discussion?
[1:11:59] » All in favor say I. I.
>> Any oppose?
[1:12:04] » Staff member.
>> Uh, ordinance 15-2026,
[1:12:09] an ordinance amending the Boardman
Municipal Code to amend Title 10
[1:12:14] vehicles and traffic.
[1:12:19] » I move to adopt ordinance 15-2026, an
ordinance amending the Boardwin
[1:12:23] Municipal Code to amend Title 10
vehicles and traffic.
[1:12:26] » And I'll second.
>> We got a motion in a second. Any
[1:12:29] discussion?
All in favor say I. I.
[1:12:33] » I. Any oppose.
All right. Go to resolutions.
[1:12:40] » Resolution 22-2026.
A resolution declaring city of Boardman
[1:12:46] personal property as excess.
[1:12:51] » Yep. This is a PD card of 2021 Ford
interceptor.
[1:12:58] uh chief would have any more details
[1:13:03] other than we just go through the
process.
[1:13:06] » Yeah, this is one of our surplus uh
well, it wasn't surplus, but it's going
[1:13:11] to cost about $11,000 to replace a
transmission in it and therefore it's
[1:13:16] not worth the investment. This is one of
the vehicles we were going to rotate out
[1:13:20] anyway. Uh, so it's been parked uh over
at uh the fire department for
[1:13:26] a while uh just because we're out of
space. Um so uh any questions? I the
[1:13:33] intention would be uh uh to donate it to
uh Stanfield Police Department. Uh their
[1:13:39] mechanic thinks he can fix it for less.
So
[1:13:43] » I move to approve resolution 22-2026,
a resolution declaring city of Boardman
[1:13:48] personal property as excess.
>> Second.
[1:13:53] got a motion and a second. Do you have
any discussion?
[1:13:56] » Can I confirm who who gave that second?
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:14:01] » Council member,
[1:14:06] » all in favor say I. I.
>> I.
[1:14:08] » Any oppose?
All right. So, resolution
[1:14:14] 23-2026,
[1:14:18] a resolution adopting the 2015 water
system master plan and the 2021
[1:14:24] wastewater facilities plan.
>> Uh, Carla will have a better
[1:14:29] explanation. Carla, are you still there?
[1:14:36] » Yeah, I'm still here. Um so explanation
would be um historically the city has
[1:14:42] not um adopted the various uh plans. Um
I talked with Mike a little bit about
[1:14:50] this. I think he's probably dropped off,
but um the city hasn't historically
[1:14:55] adopted them because the city hasn't um
gone out to seek um grants or loans to
[1:15:00] fund infrastructure. So the um need to
adopt them for grant purposes or loan
[1:15:07] purposes was not evident. The city
self-funded. Um what got missed in that
[1:15:13] is that they also provide a factual
basis um for how public facilities are
[1:15:19] um
managed um what kind of plans you have
[1:15:23] what kind of projects are in those plans
those types of things. So with
[1:15:26] comprehensive plan update um these just
provide a factual basis um as an adopted
[1:15:33] document for the the comprehensive plan
to um rely on. They don't become a part
[1:15:39] of the comprehensive plan. Um they just
provide a factual basis of of what's
[1:15:44] there. As you well know, we're working
on adopting um not only replacements for
[1:15:50] these two plans, but a number of other
kind of public facilities plans. Many of
[1:15:55] them are well underway and will probably
be in front of you sometime later this
[1:16:00] fall. Um, but that would not be timely
for the work we're doing on the
[1:16:05] comprehensive plan. So, glad to answer
any further questions you might have.
[1:16:15] » All right. Ready for a motion.
[1:16:21] I move to approve resolution 24-2026,
a resolution establishing oops, adopting
[1:16:28] the 2015 water systems master plan and
the 2021 wastewater facilities plan.
[1:16:36] » I'll second that.
>> Got a motion, a second. Does anyone have
[1:16:38] any questions for Carla regarding this
>> minor correction resolution 23-2026?
[1:16:47] » Thank you.
[1:16:51] Okay, hearing none. All in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:16:54] » Any oppose?
>> Okay, thank you.
[1:16:59] » You bet. Thanks, Carla.
Resolution 24-2026,
[1:17:05] a resolution establishing an animal
impoundment feed and repealing prior
[1:17:10] resolution setting such fees.
So just the quickest summary is we're
[1:17:16] trying to re recoup all the costs
associated with transporting and taking
[1:17:21] care of the animals. That's like gas.
That's the time of our employees.
[1:17:29] So
that's what is before you
[1:17:34] » move to approve resolution 24-2026
a resolution establishing an animal
[1:17:38] empowerment fee and repealing prior
resolutions setting such fees.
[1:17:44] » I'll second that.
>> I got a motion and a second. Any
[1:17:48] discussion? I have some discussion. I
think we need to be really careful with
[1:17:52] this.
Uh I get it, but I think we should be
[1:17:56] really careful.
uh
[1:18:00] that we're just not going to be a small
town community that tries to help people
[1:18:06] find their dog or their animal. I mean,
we have people who don't take care of
[1:18:11] their animals and then we have people
who do take care of their animals. And I
[1:18:16] I just hope that we're not going to be
money mongers and just like because
[1:18:24] there are people that won't pay and
they'll just say, "You took my animal."
[1:18:27] Okay. Well, I'm just not going to get it
back. And I think that's a negative way
[1:18:31] to go at it. I I get there's a financial
cost, but I've already talked to Mr.
[1:18:36] Hammond about this, but uh I think we
need to uh pass this, but I just hope
[1:18:43] that there is
[1:18:47] don't know what the right word. I don't
think grace is the right word, but I
[1:18:50] hope that we we still work with people
to
[1:18:57] who are responsible people to get their
animals back. That's all. And I'd like
[1:19:02] to piggy back on what Mayor Kefir said,
and it's something that we've discussed
[1:19:07] also that if the animals are properly
identified, that the code enforcement
[1:19:11] person make every effort to get that pet
back to their owner before transporting
[1:19:16] them to a facility. Now, if that
animal's out all the time,
[1:19:20] » there go
>> and they become a problem, then that's a
[1:19:24] different situation. But I I do think
every effort should be made to return
[1:19:28] the the pet that's properly identified
to their owner.
[1:19:32] » And I I think that's what this rail is
all about is basically the ones that
[1:19:37] aren't responsible.
[1:19:43] » So any pet that isn't identified
is going to the pound or going to
[1:19:50] Haristston to the veterary clinics that
hold them. Is that correct?
[1:19:55] No. So, you guys are talking about two
separate things. This is just an
[1:20:00] empoundment fee. Totally different.
>> You're talking about a process. The
[1:20:07] current process is you you get the dog,
and this is again, this is based on
[1:20:13] code. You get the dog, you take them
directly to Hermiston,
[1:20:18] and then after you've dropped the dog
off in Hermiston, you would contact
[1:20:22] them. That is exactly how the code is.
So what you are mentioning is you would
[1:20:27] like to change the code because again
this is when we talk about these things
[1:20:32] that we're doing
like we we have to go and it I don't
[1:20:37] want to go and interpret a law.
So our code says this we need to do the
[1:20:42] code. If the code doesn't make sense
well then let's change the code which is
[1:20:46] what we're doing. So, if if that's some
direction that you as the council would
[1:20:51] like uh the city to do is is update the
process, that's what you're talking
[1:20:56] about.
>> I I think I'm a witness to the accepted
[1:20:59] practice is to return the dog to the
existing owner if it can be identified
[1:21:03] when the code enforcement officer
collects it. So, that's the current
[1:21:08] practice or was the current practice. It
>> it absolutely was the current practice.
[1:21:12] it and it was a um it was u
uh
[1:21:18] » individual's choice
>> correct individual's choice it was not
[1:21:22] based on code
>> okay
[1:21:23] » I think that if we do I think we should
change the code then to
[1:21:29] » which is something we I mean again this
is something that we can look at doing
[1:21:33] but right now the current code is
because we've looked at it it it is like
[1:21:36] you take the dog in it's not going and
finding him or anything like that
[1:21:41] » and and this resolution Brandon, just to
clarify, was specifically to recoup the
[1:21:46] cost of gas and the staff that is taking
>> correct
[1:21:51] » the the um pet.
>> Correct.
[1:21:54] » And we'll come back at a later time with
that rate because it doesn't say here
[1:21:58] what that fee is going to be
>> for for purpose reasons because the rate
[1:22:03] like the mileage rate changes the
>> different per person.
[1:22:08] » Correct. Yep.
generally.
[1:22:12] No, it's I mean it's pretty much but the
mileage rate the reimburseed mileage
[1:22:15] rate changes. I don't know how often
that does but like we do increases to
[1:22:20] salaries and things like that.
>> I think the consent I don't think
[1:22:23] there's a problem with the the
policy that we're trying to do here. I
[1:22:29] think we're concerned about
>> which is yes a different matter.
[1:22:32] Correct. I hear you need to address
that. Yep. I hear you.
[1:22:37] » Any other discussion?
Okay. All in favor say I.
[1:22:42] » I.
>> Any oppose.
[1:22:46] All right. My computer died, so I'm
going off of the thing here.
[1:22:51] » Okay. So, we're uh update bank bank
signers.
[1:22:56] » Um now that you have appointed a new
counselor, we need to remove um Karen
[1:23:01] Pedigrew from the accounts and add uh
councelor Gonzalez.
[1:23:07] I move to update the account signers and
custodians on the city of Boardman
[1:23:12] accounts at Banner Bank and money market
account at the bank of eastern Oregon by
[1:23:16] removing Karen Pedigrew and adding
Isabelle Gonzalez.
[1:23:21] » Second that.
>> Do I have any discussion?
[1:23:26] All in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:23:28] » I. Any oppose?
We'll go to appoint a housing advisor
[1:23:33] committee member. I think we already
already have a an idea. [laughter]
[1:23:37] » Yeah, I moved to a point. It was all
acknowledged to
[1:23:41] » a nominee
>> housing committee.
[1:23:44] » All right, we'll do this the quick
confession.
[1:23:47] » I could second that.
>> Yes, we have a second. Is there any
[1:23:50] discussion? How about the nominee? Do
you have any discussion?
[1:23:53] » No. [laughter]
>> Welcome.
[1:23:56] » You're willing, right?
>> Willing.
[1:23:57] » Yeah. Thank you. We appreciate it. All
in favor say I. I. I. Any oppose?
[1:24:04] Okay. Uh, appoint Cres 2 member. I've
been uh putting some thought to this.
[1:24:10] » I would like to be on it.
>> And uh
[1:24:14] you what?
>> I would like to be on it.
[1:24:16] » Yeah, but you didn't let me finish.
>> I'm sorry.
[1:24:21] » Cuz now I maybe not vote for you.
>> Maybe not.
[1:24:23] » No. Uh I my thought process was uh was
to nominate Brenda Profit just for the
[1:24:32] fact that she's been uh attending and
been on a uh
[1:24:39] she's been on Chris 3 or Chris 3. I do
believe she's been on some as alternate.
[1:24:43] I think she would be a good person to
put on it when I think she can make the
[1:24:48] meetings. Um, and so, um, that was going
to be my nomination was to put you as a
[1:24:56] Cres 2 member.
>> Thank you, Paul.
[1:25:01] » I move to appoint Councelor Profett as
the member of Cres 2.
[1:25:09] » I'll second that.
>> Okay. Got a motion and a second. Is
[1:25:12] there any additional
uh discussion?
[1:25:17] All in favor say I. I
>> I
[1:25:19] » Any oppose?
>> Thanks.
[1:25:25] » BCDA pickle ball leaves.
>> So, um, as the BCTA chair alluded to, we
[1:25:34] are, you know, we've talked about moving
it. We just need to make it official.
[1:25:38] The old lease was for the old piece of
land. So, all we did was the wording is
[1:25:43] basically the same thing. All we did is
move the location to behind the
[1:25:48] fieldhouse.
[1:25:52] » I move to approve city manager Hammond
to sign the pickle ball court property
[1:25:55] lease agreement with the Boardman
Community Development Association.
[1:25:58] » I'll second that.
>> Okay, I got a motion and a second. Is
[1:26:01] there any other discussion?
All in favor say I.
[1:26:05] » I.
>> I.
[1:26:06] » Any oppose?
All right. League of Oregon Cities
[1:26:11] Legislative Priorities.
So there is a list of 27 priorities. Um
[1:26:20] in the packet I gave like there's the
whole document.
[1:26:25] I then summarized that document
and then the one in front of you are
[1:26:33] just a few suggestions. Those are things
that uh we as city staff felt. Um but
[1:26:40] we're only needed to choose five.
>> Five. You need this right now.
[1:26:44] » We do.
>> I've lost my pin.
[1:26:47] » We cannot do it by secret ballot. So,
what I can do is I can do a roll call
[1:26:53] and you can give me your votes by number
if that would work and that would be an
[1:26:58] easy way to tally.
>> What's the blue?
[1:27:02] » The blue are my recommendations from
city staff. I'm sorry I didn't clarify
[1:27:06] the blue,
>> but yeah, that's that's things that have
[1:27:09] come up. We as city staff, those are
things that we felt are a priority. But
[1:27:13] again, I highlighted seven,
eight.
[1:27:33] » Do you want to start with me? I'm
allowed seven or eight.
[1:27:36] » Five.
>> Five.
[1:27:38] » Five. Yep. And Amanda will note.
>> Okay.
[1:27:43] » Which one to vote for?
>> Councelor Profett. Well, I'm going to
[1:27:46] take my five from the eight that Brandon
has here. So, I would like number six,
[1:27:52] number seven,
number nine,
[1:27:58] number 24,
and
[1:28:03] number 26.
Thank you.
[1:28:12] else ready to go.
I'll go uh 6 7 9 10 and 24.
[1:28:22] » Thank you.
[1:28:28] » Same.
>> You want the same as councelor Hughes?
[1:28:32] » 67 9 10 and 24.
[1:28:37] I can go next.
>> Okay.
[1:28:40] » 7 9
24 and 25.
[1:28:47] » Thank you.
>> Okay, I'm ready.
[1:28:50] » Um 6 7 9 24 and 25.
Okay. And Mayor Kefir?
[1:28:58] » Uh 679.
Uh yeah, let's see. 679. Is that what I
[1:29:05] put?
So far, yes,
[1:29:10] » I'm writing it down.
>> 67 9
[1:29:15] 24 and 25.
[1:29:23] Is that everybody?
[1:29:40] So the selected priorities are number
six administrative procedures act
[1:29:46] reform, number seven public meetings law
clarity, number nine full funding and
[1:29:51] streamlining for housing production
number 24 infrastructure funding and
[1:29:57] number 25 water reuse.
[1:30:03] that satisfy that.
>> There is now another action that we will
[1:30:09] need to take for you to
>> vote on that.
[1:30:12] » Yes. Authorize him to vote.
[1:30:19] » I move to authorize city manager Hammond
to submit the council's top five
[1:30:22] legislative priorities elected by the
council to the League of Oregon Cities.
[1:30:26] » Second.
>> Motion and second. Any any discussion?
[1:30:32] All in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:30:34] » Any oppose?
[1:30:38] Financial report.
[1:30:43] » Thank you. Um in front of you we have
our first month of the fiscal year 2026
[1:30:49] 2027.
And um it is also uh the payouts for our
[1:30:54] quarterly payments um such as the
building department which is always the
[1:30:58] the very large payment that goes out and
it makes our financials look like really
[1:31:02] lopsided
um because we have one month of income
[1:31:06] coming in and you know three months
worth of these agreements going out. So
[1:31:10] they had a total of $88,44
um that were dispersed to the
[1:31:16] surrounding jurisdictions. Um, I've
listed those there for you. Um, those
[1:31:22] vary every single month. I mean, every
single quarter. Um, usually in the
[1:31:27] warmer months there's more construction
going on and that tends to be the months
[1:31:30] that we uh disperse out more. Um, but
just depends on what developers
[1:31:37] contractors are doing. Um, availability
of employees. So, um, for our reserve
[1:31:43] funds, um, our general reserve didn't
have any projects. um our water reserve
[1:31:48] fund. Um we still have some projects
going on. Um and we've listed those
[1:31:55] there for you. Um finishing up some of
ours that are still got
[1:31:59] uh retainage payments to be paid out
because we're waiting for them to fully
[1:32:03] complete the projects. So you'll kind of
see sporadically some of those last
[1:32:07] payments coming through. Um such as
South Main Street. Financially, we have
[1:32:11] not closed out that project. Um, but you
know, 99.9%
[1:32:17] of the job, you could say, uh,
construction-wise is done. Uh, but on
[1:32:21] the books, we still have some of that
left. So, you'll still see that once we
[1:32:25] get that closed up. Um, and we get the
sign off from Anderson Perry that, you
[1:32:31] know, everything has been done. So, it's
it's a an assurance that the project is
[1:32:36] actually complete when we finalize the
payments.
[1:32:40] Um, does anybody have any questions for
>> I just have a comment. Um, on behalf of
[1:32:47] Boardman Fire, I just wanted to thank
the city for having this partnership
[1:32:51] because without this partnership, then
our fire marshall position wouldn't
[1:32:56] exist and we're the only we have the
only paid fire marshal in the county.
[1:33:00] So, anyways, thank you.
>> Thank him for the work that he does for
[1:33:06] you.
Any
[1:33:11] other questions or comments for Marta?
[1:33:17] » Okay. Uh, city manager report.
[1:33:24] » I was just wanting to, you know, take a
moment of silence is as there was no
[1:33:30] comments from Karen [laughter]
to Marta because that is I mean that is
[1:33:35] right. This is the first time
>> I think so.
[1:33:38] » Good grief.
>> Um, okay. If you
[1:33:44] have any questions, let me know. The
report is before you. Um, I I I really
[1:33:50] want to emphasize
um there is a great
[1:33:55] deal of painful, laborious effort,
painstakingly
[1:34:03] day in day out. that goes into making
sure that your packet is given a week in
[1:34:10] advance.
So, I I just so appreciate everyone who
[1:34:16] reads the packet prior because we that
is an absolute investment. We have been
[1:34:22] committed. Um, just for the record, I'll
be out of town
[1:34:28] at the end of September. I'm doing a
family trip.
[1:34:33] Amanda has several trainings.
So, in order for us to like get a packet
[1:34:39] out the week in advance, it's like going
to be done next week. So,
[1:34:45] please just make sure you're reading
through the packet. If you have any
[1:34:48] questions, let me know. But we really
do, it's a week. We want you guys to
[1:34:53] have plenty of time to invest and read
and study. So, you're coming into this.
[1:34:57] So, again, thanks for all those that
take the time. Um,
[1:35:02] » I do appreciate the links because some
of them were like 383 pages, some were
[1:35:08] 61 pages, and that would be like an a
thousandpage document.
[1:35:12] » Yeah,
>> if it was all in one.
[1:35:14] » Absolutely. It's much easier to get to
with the links.
[1:35:16] » Yes.
>> And I appreciate having it a week in
[1:35:19] advance, even if I can't get to it on
the day that it was delivered.
[1:35:24] » Yeah. But but again, yeah, you guys are
all busy, but we hope that within that
[1:35:28] week that you guys have time to look it
over.
[1:35:30] » Yeah, we used to sometimes not get it
until Tuesday of the meeting.
[1:35:34] » Yeah.
>> So, we're we're grateful
[1:35:37] » even if we don't get to read the whole
thing.
[1:35:40] » Um so, we'll go right into it. Um let
just so what everyone
[1:35:48] every every month we will have some kind
of munic
[1:35:54] um the next thing I'm thank you for the
input it looks like we need to have some
[1:35:59] kind of animal control in the process in
there and that's great because that is
[1:36:03] the fe I mean I need that feedback that
should be how I'm doing my work um title
[1:36:08] 10 that's the last thing that we've been
discussing chief stoko
[1:36:13] um presented
a noise ordinance and it is in your
[1:36:20] packet.
Do you was there any input on that? Is
[1:36:26] there is that going in the right
direction? Stephanie, is Stephanie still
[1:36:31] here?
>> She's online. Okay, Stephanie's
[1:36:35] listening to
>> Okay,
[1:36:37] » so
>> the only comment I had, and I brought
[1:36:41] this up when I talked to you, was, "Is
that really our most pressing thing that
[1:36:46] we need to work on?" That was my is it
an issue? Yeah. Uh, but is that out of
[1:36:55] all the things that we have going on in
our community, what is that really the
[1:37:00] one that we really need to address
first?
[1:37:04] » That was my only question. Okay, I'm not
saying whether it was right or wrong.
[1:37:08] That was my question.
>> And this comes
[1:37:12] » because I didn't see anything about
speeding. I haven't heard anything about
[1:37:17] uh
uh what what else has people been
[1:37:20] barking about?
>> Well, I I do have a police chief
[1:37:24] question.
>> That that was my only comment.
[1:37:27] » Yeah,
>> but go ahead. Go ahead, Chief.
[1:37:29] » So, Chief, obviously DUIs are getting
Yeah. getting worse and worse. Is there
[1:37:36] um
what course of action is are you taking
[1:37:41] for that?
So to answer your question, I in I
[1:37:45] didn't get an opportunity to explain
this earlier, but we had just in this
[1:37:49] last month alone, the last 30 days, we
had 12 DUI arrests. So that's an average
[1:37:54] of three a week, which is ridiculous.
Um, we have increased our emphasis on
[1:38:02] DUIs. So
if you're driving around and there's a
[1:38:06] reason to stop you, they're going to
find a reason to stop you. So don't
[1:38:09] break the law. But I would really
encourage you not to drink and drive. So
[1:38:14] um yes, we have done increases in uh uh
emphasis patrols. Uh to answer the
[1:38:20] mayor's question on speed, speeds
controlled by Oregon revised statute.
[1:38:24] Has nothing to do with the city
ordinance. So there's really nothing to
[1:38:28] address there. Um we do do emphasis
patrols for speed. Uh we can't be
[1:38:33] everywhere all the time. And uh we do
issue tickets. I think if you look at
[1:38:38] the report, I don't have in front of me,
but I'm sure there was like 60ome
[1:38:43] citations issued for the month. Um, so
speed continues to be a problem.
[1:38:52] I don't want to feel like I was
attacking you or that I because I've
[1:38:57] seen your posts on Facebook trying to
address it and I've seen the attacking
[1:39:01] come to you. Um, so I appreciate
everything that you're trying to do. I
[1:39:06] do that. That was I just wanted to
reiterate that I mean everything because
[1:39:12] I've talked to a couple officers about
the DUIs on what you know where is it
[1:39:18] happening? Is it really people who are
going to establishments and coming out
[1:39:24] and uh I think the consensus was that
wasn't really the problem. It's coming
[1:39:30] from home. people are partaking at home
and then leaving or they're getting off
[1:39:36] work and they're buying a beverage and
they're cracking it open at nine o'clock
[1:39:41] in the morning and going home. So, uh
it's a tough problem. I I don't have a
[1:39:47] problem with discussing uh dealing with
the noise because I remember in the
[1:39:53] early 2000s when certain individuals I
think that was before you but that uh we
[1:39:59] had individuals who had really loud cars
and that was an issue that we had to
[1:40:04] deal with as well.
So,
[1:40:06] » I think it's barking dogs right at the
moment. 2 a.m. barking dogs
[1:40:11] » been let out to go potty and then won't
be let back in in a timely way.
[1:40:18] » I think and I think that my comment um
to you Brandon was just um you know when
[1:40:24] you think about the officer's time,
right? is that the best use of their
[1:40:29] time um dealing with complaints about
noise versus you know the safety and and
[1:40:35] um I think that's where where I was
coming from um when I made similar
[1:40:40] comments I think to Mayor Kefir.
I guess I would hesitate to call 911
[1:40:48] because the neighbor's dog is barking
habitually at 2 a.m. I would I would
[1:40:54] still have a trouble calling about that.
I'd rather call during the day and say,
[1:40:57] "Hey, this is a problem in my
neighborhood. Could you send extra
[1:40:59] patrols?"
>> I I I don't think it's barking dogs that
[1:41:03] we're dealing with. We're deal the the
bands that are literally in people's
[1:41:07] backyards at at 2 in the morning still
rocking and rolling. Correct.
[1:41:12] » Are they inside the city?
>> Yes, they are inside the city.
[1:41:16] » All right. Yeah.
>> So my margarita
[1:41:21] » I always thought that we had a time that
was a quiet time and I was told that we
[1:41:27] didn't and I
there are other cities that have that.
[1:41:31] Um so
>> we have a lot of lot of things that we
[1:41:36] got to tackle.
>> So if I could I try to try to address
[1:41:39] all of the comments and concerns. So,
uh, no offense, I I didn't take it as as
[1:41:44] as as you were pointing fingers. So, um,
but, uh, we have to address all of these
[1:41:51] issues, not just one. And the officers
are getting all kinds of calls. I I
[1:41:57] actually had to, uh, cover some calls
last Saturday night. So, um, we had five
[1:42:06] noise complaints
all that night alone. One of them was a
[1:42:11] repeat offender after we told them that
they needed to quiet down. Um, during
[1:42:16] that, we also had other calls. We had a
head-on collision um in which uh
[1:42:21] fortunately nobody got hurt, but we were
dealing with that at the same time as
[1:42:25] other complaints. So, yes, we have to
prioritize our calls. Um, with the
[1:42:30] barking dogs, if you don't call when
it's happening, it's pretty tough for us
[1:42:35] to do anything. Okay? So, you don't have
to call 911. you can call the
[1:42:40] non-emergency dispatch number and the
officer if they're not on another call
[1:42:46] will go take care of that or uh we have
a method in place that the city has a
[1:42:51] call out or whatever for their their
folks. So all calls will get addressed
[1:42:58] all complaints have to be addressed at
some point in in in some form or
[1:43:02] fashion. So we we will take care of
those. We prioritize the calls as they
[1:43:07] come in. So, a barking dog call and a
DUI,
[1:43:12] it's gonna get put on the back burner,
>> of course.
[1:43:15] » Um, I
I hope I covered everybody's kind of
[1:43:20] concerns. Um, what we did here is we
tried to I took noise ordinances from
[1:43:26] several different cities. Um, I took
ours, I took uh Oregon Revised Statute
[1:43:32] and kind of try to combine it into an
ordinance in which we can try to address
[1:43:36] some of the concerns. So if you if you
read down through that ordinance um
[1:43:40] there was the talk about amplified uh
noise uh engine revving tires spinning
[1:43:46] horns defective or modified exhaust
systems that type of thing. So it is
[1:43:51] encompassed into this. Our current
uh ordinance is very vague and extremely
[1:44:01] difficult to try to enforce. Basically,
we could arrest you for disorderly
[1:44:06] conduct with just coming and talking to
you the first time. Obviously, we want
[1:44:11] to educate and uh have some ordinances.
And so, I tried putting out a post uh
[1:44:16] early on about some of the concerns that
we're having, but it was very vague and
[1:44:21] I had a lot of questions. So, uh that's
when I went to the city manager and
[1:44:25] said, "Hey, we need to come up with a
resolution and try to define our
[1:44:29] ordinance a little better than what it
is." uh we're not trying to we're not
[1:44:33] trying to say don't go out and have fun.
We're we're simply not doing that. But
[1:44:38] uh in a residential neighborhood, people
also have the right to enjoy their their
[1:44:42] home and their their property as well.
So there has to be a
[1:44:49] compromise uh on on both sides, but uh I
do believe there's ways we can address
[1:44:54] some of these concerns
>> because I was uh I think I was talking
[1:44:58] to Mr. happened earlier too uh about
time of day. So if we
[1:45:05] we were to limit the times well that has
greater ramifications because the city
[1:45:11] also has celebrations and so if we
cancel things say okay uh can only be at
[1:45:19] certain times then the city and other
activities that we have also have to be
[1:45:24] cognizant of that too. So other side
it's like
[1:45:27] » that's
>> just trying to think of you know
[1:45:31] I noticed that it just said time of day
but is when you put this together is
[1:45:37] that the that's not the official one is
it
[1:45:41] » we
>> the one that we sent before you yes
[1:45:44] would no I mean it's a it's a draft
but it has an opportunity for temporary
[1:45:50] noise ordinance allowances or exceptions
>> there is at the authorization of the
[1:45:56] city manager. But again, I would use
extreme caution because what we can't do
[1:46:02] is say Oregon revised statute, you don't
matter. Um, and it does fall under
[1:46:07] disorderly conduct and and some other
things. What we would probably encourage
[1:46:12] is if you're going to have that live
music, uh, put it in a venue that's not
[1:46:17] in a residential neighborhood. Yeah.
>> Put it in in in a in a park or or an
[1:46:23] event place. so that it doesn't cause
that type of disturbance. Then the city
[1:46:27] manager can issue a permit allowing for
certain hours to allow that to take
[1:46:32] place. When when when we make a decision
based on this, there's the totality of
[1:46:38] the circumstances. So you got duration,
the time of day, uh what type of noise,
[1:46:43] how long, uh if it's been going on for
four or five hours compared to an hour
[1:46:48] or 30 minutes or whatever the case may
be. There's a lot of stuff that comes
[1:46:51] into this when an officer makes a
decision. How far are we going to push
[1:46:54] this and can we resolve it without it
ending with somebody either getting a
[1:46:59] citation or somebody going to jail?
That's our last course. We always always
[1:47:04] love would love to give a warning rather
than issue a citation.
[1:47:09] » I think there are parties around
Boardman that are outside of the city's
[1:47:13] purview that are loud enough to be heard
anywhere in Boardman.
[1:47:17] » So the Sorry. So, and and I recognize
that that's a that's a factor. It's just
[1:47:25] a part of
I've always thought it was kind of a
[1:47:28] part of living here. So, but
>> um
[1:47:32] » so to address that, uh I there was the
same Saturday night, the same uh there
[1:47:38] was a party out in the county and the
county was called and they actually took
[1:47:43] action on it as well. So they they kind
of have similar noise issues, but it's a
[1:47:49] little easier to do out in the county.
>> Yeah.
[1:47:52] And and the main concept like was there
anything to change take away because the
[1:47:58] the goal is let's talk about it and then
again let's present it. I mean we're
[1:48:04] trying to make and and we'll continue to
make corrections and we can do that.
[1:48:08] We're just trying to clean up some
things. So the hope would be to present
[1:48:12] this next month. But was there anything
that stood out that you're like, "Wow,
[1:48:15] no." Or, "Where is this?" Anything?
>> No.
[1:48:22] » No. I'll probably just keep talking to
you about it.
[1:48:25] » Cool. All right.
Okay. So, don't bring it to present next
[1:48:30] time like for adoption.
>> Bring it.
[1:48:33] » Bring it.
>> We'll see.
[1:48:35] » And then
good the way it is. Like
[1:48:38] » anybody has a heartburn, they'll
definitely bring it up to you.
[1:48:41] » Cool. Um, mobile. Again, this is a
mobile food vendor. We're not talking
[1:48:46] pods yet. We're just talking mobile food
vendor. Was there anything in there that
[1:48:52] uh I know Heather has shared some stuff
which was great. We addressed those
[1:48:58] was
>> also wanted to to bring up the
[1:49:04] like special events.
>> Yes. Did I not? So
[1:49:10] » yes, we should talk about that.
>> Yes, thank you. So the one thing that we
[1:49:15] don't like this does not the mobile food
vendor has nothing to do with the guy
[1:49:19] selling watermelon or anything like
that. We will define mobile food vendor
[1:49:24] as a food truck. Um and the special
events, Stephanie, did we have anything
[1:49:29] about special events? I know we've
talked about it because we do it right
[1:49:33] now. I mean, right, they go down in the
marina. they do other things and I
[1:49:38] » I just
>> there is a little bit of language uh
[1:49:43] it's going to be right on your first
page. I don't have it in [clears throat]
[1:49:45] front of me right now but it says except
special events. So under food
[1:49:49] regulations mobile vendors for events
are handled differently than your
[1:49:54] typical mobile vendor. So they are
inspected as standalone during that
[1:49:59] event only. So you'll see them at fair
or um maybe some of the chamber events
[1:50:04] where they have to participate in those.
But there is some language in there
[1:50:08] where it says accept events.
>> And and Stephanie, can you shine a light
[1:50:13] on what you brought differently this
time?
[1:50:18] » Sure. So with this, I I tried to take in
all of the conversation that we had
[1:50:24] during the work session the one night.
We sent out a preliminary. I think
[1:50:28] Brandon sent it to each of you
individually for your review. Uh some of
[1:50:32] you gave us some feedback uh about
specific issues. So I think what you're
[1:50:37] seeing in front of you tonight would
address um individual vendor units. And
[1:50:43] the idea behind this would be that it
would go I believe it's title five of
[1:50:48] the municipal code kind of the same area
where we have uh transient merchant
[1:50:52] licenses and those sorts of things. And
then the food pods themselves would be
[1:50:56] something that would be in it in the
development code. So, this one's going
[1:51:01] to cover some regulations for individual
units and things that could help
[1:51:07] facilitate
the uh opportunity for these units to
[1:51:13] come in and be cited and have some
safety area around them as far as fire
[1:51:21] life safety, some parking, and then the
possibility for some safe connections
[1:51:26] should they need connection to water or
electricity or even potentially our
[1:51:32] sewer system.
>> And then also bring up the the 30 the
[1:51:39] tempor the three classifications.
>> So we kind of followed a little bit of
[1:51:44] what a couple of other jurisdictions did
where it would be a temporary like a
[1:51:48] type one is a a 30-day and then type two
and type three going all the way up to
[1:51:54] 180 days with the intent of them being
there temporarily.
[1:51:57] um but no hour limitation. They could be
open 24 hours a day if they wanted to or
[1:52:02] anything like that, but more being a a
temporary at that location.
[1:52:08] And then the other piece of that then
would be that I would really like for
[1:52:14] you to consider tonight would be
specifically what areas
[1:52:19] uh I put just the zones. I think I did
um commercial industrial what zones we
[1:52:25] would like to see them in and maybe
identify maybe it's not the tourist
[1:52:29] commercial overlay or maybe it is or
what you'd like to see with that
[1:52:36] » that location. Yeah.
>> Well, I do have a question then. So,
[1:52:41] let's say the Sage Center was holding an
event and wanted a mobile vendor. then
[1:52:46] they just apply for a permit for that
usage even though it's not
[1:52:51] » it's a different process because it's
like a special event thing.
[1:52:54] » Okay.
>> It has to be done through the health
[1:52:57] department.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's something too.
[1:53:00] » Correct.
[1:53:07] That's a totally different
[1:53:11] » anything
any heartburn I mean fine you're fine
[1:53:17] with the type one type two type three
nothing like that
[1:53:20] » gives them some direction when they want
to come in with their mobile food truck
[1:53:26] » sure
>> and not be on a pod
[1:53:28] » um I know
>> I know they're well I I won't bring it
[1:53:33] up.
[1:53:36] We're not talking O do Stephanie, so
don't say anything.
[1:53:42] » Are they mobile? No.
>> Yeah, that's something. Anyway, cool. Um
[1:53:48] the one thing that will again, we'll
just keep bringing stuff up. Um any
[1:53:53] other input, please. Again, we'll do the
animal thing. Amanda wrote that down. Um
[1:54:00] uh and then the last thing that I wanted
to share is just thank you. I I
[1:54:07] it can be crappy
in your position and and it's not like
[1:54:12] people are breaking down the doors of
city hall to come and run to be on
[1:54:16] council. Um so I I really do appreciate
what you do. Uh, I've I know that you
[1:54:24] guys have the absolute utmost what is
best for boredom at at heart and that's
[1:54:30] exactly what it should be. And maybe
that's not always aligned with what
[1:54:34] everyone says or what I think or
whatever, but that's what you guys are
[1:54:37] choosing to do. And you set yourself out
for those things and and and thank you
[1:54:42] for doing that cuz um
the the no one signing up is is way
[1:54:49] scary to not have people be willing to
run. So,
[1:54:53] » well, and let's be honest, it's only one
or two people that causes the most
[1:54:58] grief.
[1:55:02] That's all I got.
[1:55:07] » All right, we're to the point where we
have counselor comments. Any counselors
[1:55:11] have some comments they'd like to share?
>> I do.
[1:55:17] » So, um I did want to just say I I don't
think three questions is enough.
[1:55:23] When we I'm looking at Mayor Kefir. um
when we in when we interview candidates.
[1:55:31] Um
so I'll leave it at that. Um but I did
[1:55:35] also want to share I had a training in
Hermiston um recently and the trainer um
[1:55:41] uh was there for two days and um I was
talking to her and she um shared that
[1:55:49] she was staying in Boardman
and she said she was from like the
[1:55:53] Portland area. Um and she said when um
she goes out and does trainings um she
[1:56:01] uh does not want to have to commute and
she said but it was worth it you know
[1:56:07] driving to driving from Boardman to
Hermison. She said it just is very
[1:56:12] relaxing. She really enjoyed being next
to the river um and just spoke highly of
[1:56:16] Boardman. So I just wanted to share
that.
[1:56:19] » Nice.
>> Any other counselor comments?
[1:56:27] Okay, I have a mayor comment. So, this
is going to be an update. I uh met with
[1:56:34] the county
uh Mr. Jensen and I met with Lisa
[1:56:41] from the port and myself and we talked
about water and um Mr. Jensen is going
[1:56:48] to be coming next month to present
uh something
[1:56:56] that the county would like us to do and
we need to be ready to decide on that.
[1:57:01] Um we talked about a lot of things and
um
[1:57:07] we're taking a lot of heat about this
water and we're taking uh a lot of heat.
[1:57:15] people are saying things that we are
doing that we're not. And I think it's
[1:57:19] important that we be ready to um go
somewhere to be able to give the county
[1:57:26] and the water consortium a decision on
where the city stands. U
[1:57:35] cities do not sell water to people who
are not citizens
[1:57:42] and it is not right. You mean citizens
live in live inside the city?
[1:57:47] » Not outside the city limits.
>> Clarifying.
[1:57:51] » Thank you for clarifying.
>> Correct.
[1:57:54] » So yeah, make sure I say it right. Uh
because I have a lot of thoughts, Roman.
[1:57:59] Um
[1:58:03] » Whoa.
>> And your phone's not about Siri like
[1:58:07] commenting on what I'm saying. So,
um
[1:58:13] I think that the
[1:58:20] sorry if my watch talks too. Um
[1:58:27] I think that the Mr. Jensen was really
pushing would like us to apply a pipe
[1:58:34] that goes to West Glenn
and uh I don't think that is probably
[1:58:40] the right way to go uh because West
Glenn is in the urban growth and anyone
[1:58:47] who receives
uh water outside of the city limits
[1:58:52] probably would never want to come into
the city limits. uh nor would the city
[1:58:57] ever make someone do that. So out of all
these things that uh are out there, I
[1:59:04] think it's important that we remember
that we have the boardman and citizens
[1:59:12] water supply that we need to think
about.
[1:59:16] Um that's the number one. And number two
is
[1:59:22] anything that we do in if we were to go
outside and enter our urban growth
[1:59:28] boundary and try to help would only
bring liability to the city. I think
[1:59:34] that the county needs to build a water
district
[1:59:40] and they should probably think about
that if they haven't. I'm a little
[1:59:44] irritated that it's four years past 2022
and the water consortium finally decided
[1:59:50] to come talk to the city of Boardman in
2026. But that's me. That's just me. Uh
[1:59:56] I think it's should be clear that the
city of Boardman is not trying to tell
[2:00:01] people what to do. I think it's should
be important that the people of the area
[2:00:07] know that the city of Boardman has no
interest in making people do things that
[2:00:12] they don't want to do.
So, uh, out of all of that rambling, uh,
[2:00:19] next month, uh, Matt Jensen will
probably be coming and talking to you
[2:00:25] and expecting a decision on the
direction that you would like to go as a
[2:00:29] council. Uh I said I was only one
person. I cannot make decisions for the
[2:00:34] council but tried to give them some
ideas of maybe what the council might or
[2:00:40] might not be willing to do and he will
do a presentation for us to decide.
[2:00:47] Uh
the other thing I'd like to share just
[2:00:51] to councelor Quis is we can fix that.
[laughter]
[2:00:56] We can address that. Let's give them
four questions.
[2:01:00] » Yes. I just I just think um you know I I
do think that these positions are
[2:01:06] important, right? And they're not paid
by the way. Um but they are they are
[2:01:12] important and I want to have a good feel
for the individuals and um like just the
[2:01:17] basic question of what are what are the
qualities that you would bring that you
[2:01:21] feel like are the most important, right?
Or that you would you know contribute,
[2:01:26] right? um from either one
because I think that that's where they
[2:01:31] could really speak to
what they can bring versus some of the
[2:01:36] questions that were on here. So
>> yes,
[2:01:40] » we can address that. Thank you.
Uh this meeting is adjourned.