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We'll start the meeting. We'll start the meeting. We'll start the meeting. We'll be in the borough chat in plain board for September 2nd.

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We'll pursue it through a farmer's deal from public meeting. Added with us that this meeting has been provided in published in the chat in courier on February 5th, 126.

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The office at which we're posted on the municipal policy board on the main floor of the municipal building in Palau, the commissioner borough secretary for secretary for a third on January 7th, 126.

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And that's a good goal of opening.

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Mayor Devesy.

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Here.

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Mathisen.

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Here.

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Mr. Zykes.

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Mr. Chairperson.

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Here.

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Mr. Keep.

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Mr. Robertson.

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Here.

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Sophie and Dr. Hall.

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Here.

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And we also have a committee.

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As our planner.

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Mr. Loughlin.

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As our attorney.

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And Mr. Bolder.

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Your all present.

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Thank you.

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At this time of his opportunity for public comment, for any member of the public, who wishes to make a comment on 90 that is not on tonight's agenda and now is our opportunity.

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Here in current, we will move on to adoption of minutes.

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We have minutes from the meeting of August 5th, 0.26, do I have a motion for those?

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How moved him?

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I moved him.

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Bruce.

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Second.

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Anyhow, is a favor?

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Right.

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In this meeting.

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Okay.

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Next up, we have two resolutions for approval.

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The first one is AJDN River Road.

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You all should have received a copy of this.

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That's exactly the same office.

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I think.

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There were several events.

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Nothing of substance as well as the board.

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We need to review any of the major issues of the approval that were received by the

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applicants attorney at our professionals, several of them were helpful corrections,

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several of those work without a good call additional details.

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So it's all in the approved by the Board of Professors.

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I mean, I think that's exactly how I recommend this to the Board.

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Thank you.

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Do I have a motion for resolution on application of 2601?

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So, did you call the one please?

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Do you want to?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Mr. Dalton?

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Yes.

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Mr. Harris?

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I wasn't too for the final vote, so am I.

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I want to go.

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But you were here on the...

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Did you vote on the...

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They on the vote.

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I'll do that right now.

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Sorry.

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That's okay.

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This is the...

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This is the...

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Sorry.

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Mr. Zai?

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I'm going to say both.

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Yes.

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the speaker in my desk, I'll go with us, man can.

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Fire, next one is PB20602-548-Channel LLC-548-Wind Street.

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This is, I think, what's your forward line in the back of the ambulance?

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No, there were a series of conditions, I think we've done a long pretty well.

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We've been doing regular routine tests during the year, and it's a lot of shows in the

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different categories, well, as we can flex in the end, and have

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repeated reviews of resolution of the law and so I recommend that

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I want the two to the board as well.

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That's it.

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I'm a motion of the fourth, let's pass it on.

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I'll move that.

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Second.

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Okay, now we move to our remaining agenda item. This is returning the application, PB260423 South, the state, owner LLC, and 33 South, the state, owner LLC, several lots of times by the state.

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Board, I don't know if that's that, Jason's in too well,

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the attorney for the applicant has indicated that

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applicant was here at August.

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Before the board, we didn't have much time to

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present that evening when we went through our

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contextual testimony at that time.

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So just to kind of refresh everybody's memory,

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this is an application for preliminary

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final major site plan approval for a 29 unit

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residential building to be located at the property.

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It's a project that's within the first third round housing plan and part of the settlement agreement with the borough.

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The application is fully conforming with the redevelopment plan requirements with the exception of a design labor for lighting from the main design standards within the ordinance.

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So, like I said earlier, we got into architectural testimony at the last meeting, we concluded

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that.

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There were some comments and some feedback that we got from the board with respect to

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the architectural design.

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So, the goal this evening, I'm chair of the board, I'm going to call up our civil engineer

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to start, because we can do any side testimony at the last meeting.

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We'll go through the civil engineering, then we'll go to traffic, we'll talk about access,

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parking and no life. And then I will bring back the architect as there were, I would say,

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three modifications that we made and I think any of them are major, but they were important

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comments that the board had that we were responsive to, specifically regarding placing a terrorist

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on one of the affordable units. And just some other aesthetic features that the board felt,

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we shouldn't incorporate into the project. So we'll go over that and then

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final witness to be our professional planner, but you know about it later in the evening.

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I can say and I believe my colleague who presented it the first meeting probably

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indicated this, we can comply with all the comments, set forth in your board professional

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letters, we'll have our witnesses state that as well on the record. So with that, I would ask

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not to share with your permission if I could call our site in junior, Eric Duluth with

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We have not sworn or qualified him yet, so we should do that.

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I'm a sir, would you raise your idea so I could administer your growth?

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You swear that the testimony in any evidence for work,

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except you're offered to the board in this hearing would be the truth.

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And nothing but the truth is helping out.

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I did.

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For a record, would you please maybe share full name,

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spelling the last name, and your business affiliation in the address.

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Thank you.

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So Eric Bulu, B-A-L-L-O-U.

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I serve as a partner at Insight Engineering, which is at 1955, Route 34, and Wall of Nutrition.

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Thank you so.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Council, you want me to just have Eric go through his qualifications for the board?

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I think so.

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And what she's familiar with, and what she's familiar with.

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Yeah, no.

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That's fine.

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I'll have you do it for the record.

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Eric, did you just give the board the benefit of your educational background?

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Licenses, how old and experience testifying as an expert in the state of New Jersey,

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course of oil and language support definitely. I have bachelor's degree for

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the University of Massachusetts. If I have lived in New Jersey longer than

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Massachusetts but that's where I started. I've done this over 30 years

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specializing in development and redevelopment projects across New Jersey. I

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haven't been had the pleasure of being qualified for this board. I have been

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qualified in adjacent towns, Morris town, East and over in Roxbury within the

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All right, and your license is current any good standing. That is correct. Okay, the board except Mr. Blue is an expert

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I'm safe that I'm just handsome gentlemen standing

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Next to me is just going to control the screen as an error test device, and that's okay.

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So, at the last time, at the last time,

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at the last time, there's a lot of discussion on the building.

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So, I'm going to provide what improvements are going to occur outside of the building.

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So, we'll sort of go by area, by area within the development. So, I know, when South of Saqab, our main frontage,

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We'll be replacing the curving.

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between the walkway and the curving.

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We have street trees and ground conferred.

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As well as we'll be doing on that walkway,

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there was comments last time

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where regards to the garage opening onto the walkway

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on Suspice Acav that we will add

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detectable warning surfaces on both sides of the sidewalk

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We're opening a curse.

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I know that was the Scott's.

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We are agreeing to that.

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I'm sorry Mr. Ruff.

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I didn't get the last phrase about the surface.

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I don't know.

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Also, it'll be 80 days.

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Detectable warning surface.

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Warning.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And then also a line of that.

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That sounds great.

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We'll also have lighting mounted to the building.

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for high to provide additional walkway lighting, as well, a long-south to say.

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When you walk further down south to say, to the northern end of that, that's where we have

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a park lab.

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So we have a 17 by 17 raised planner that's being proposed, approximately at sea height, so

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there'd be seating opportunities.

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That raised planter will have the same brick veneer matching up the building, and inside of

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large plants. There will also have ornamental trees and decorative planting. Around that we

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have the same pavers that you see in the parking lot today. They'll be paver material in that

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area creating a parklet at the end of the street there as anticipated within the zoning plant.

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And then we get to the northern side of the building. So this is where we're directly adjacent to the

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existing municipal lock.

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Same scenario, along that frontage that we have,

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the common area between our lock and there,

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again, we're replacing all of the curving,

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we're putting in six-volt white sidewalk.

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Again, there, we're gonna use pavers between the sidewalk

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and the curving, because that's what matches

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your design within the parking lot today.

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And then behind that, we still have opportunity

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for foundation plantings between the building

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and the sidewalk. Another improvement that we're going to be making along that edge is

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we're going to add two more lights, two more light fixtures along that edge. These light

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fixtures match the exact same fixtures that are within the parking lot. I think it's

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the chat I'm standard because we're also here at some admissible building. And just for

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the record to the exhibit or the plan that's on the screen was marked that the last

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meaning, I wanted to make sure there was the colored side line.

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Great.

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So when it comes to parking lot lighting,

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there's five different criteria to comply with for lighting.

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One of them is minimum light level, maximum to minimum light level,

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minimum to average light level, and maximum fixture height.

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So there's four criterias that we're fully compliant with.

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We are asking for a waiver to allow us to have

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average lighting level of 2.1 foot candles versus 1 foot candles. The reason why we don't

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meet that exact averaging, because we want to use the exact same fixture that's out there.

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We're looking very irregular if we've changed the fixtures. So we wanted to make sure that we had

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enough minimum lighting coverage as wide the average is slightly higher than prettier regulations.

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But overall, it'll look very similar to the lighting you have out there today.

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And the hours of those lights, since these lights will be part of the municipal lot system,

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the burrow will control those as they control all of the other lights,

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as far as when they're on and when they're off.

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As we go further down, we get to the loading area that was discussed at the last meeting.

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So, if there we had them in a joss mess, like the joss mess, the previous of the through

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burden counted United Way Project, there's three parking spaces, you can see three angled

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spaces adjacent to that loading area is.

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The original approval had those at 45 degrees.

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We've changed them to 60 degrees.

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We changed that angle to small slightly.

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reason we did that is if a vehicle was parked within that loading area that will allow cars to get in and out of those spaces without any conflicts

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So that's one of the adjustments we have for to create the loading area that was previously discussed.

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The great part about this project is that we talked about the street trees and the planting areas.

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So the overall result of that is that the project will actually decrease the overall impervious area by about 800 square feet.

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Further benefiting storm model will be right now, there's a lot of parking areas out there.

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So this considered motor vehicle surface, which is, in a sense, that simple turns

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is dirty and curvious.

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That we're actually decreasing by 19,000 square feet.

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Now, we're doing that is that, all of the parking for this project will be internal to

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the building.

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So a reduction of impervious, that will decrease runoff rates and flows.

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The decrease of motor vehicle surface will have a benefit for water quality from the project.

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Sanitary sewer, we did receive a will serve letter for the project, saying they can serve the project,

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and our connections will be made out to South Pacific Avenue.

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Similar, we also received a will serve letter for water.

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And again, those connections will also occur out to South Pacific Avenue within our frontage.

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And then as part of this project, of course we have to retain the boards of approval as one of the critical ones.

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But we also have outside agency approvals.

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So as part of this project we will obtain the Morris County Planning Board approval,

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which we have already received an exception for.

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So we have satisfied the county aspects.

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Then we have the Morris County soil conservation district.

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We submitted to them.

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They had a few comments, but I wanted to resolve any comments we have from the board at the

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same time at soil erosion, and it gets syrup and water permitting will also be required.

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As it's very clearly noted, our site is adjacent to the rail line, which is

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NJ Transit Property. So as part of this project, and as part of any projects that's directly adjacent

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to NJ Transit Property, we will have to obtain a temporary access permit to allow

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the construction methodologies adjacent to the train tracks. So that would be another approval,

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which is noted within the review ladder as well. So that gives you an understanding of

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other approvals besides the boards. All right, just just a couple of things, just a highlight

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before we conclude your direct. The lighting waiver is simply because we're using the

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part of this picture in the barrel parking lot. You know, seeing negative issues, it was a

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relates to that correct. We do not, especially since we meet four of the five criteria,

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I think the one criteria isn't as important as the other.

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So, okay.

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And the streetscape improvements that are required

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are way of the affordable housing agreement with the borough,

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where we need to include a minimum of 2,000 square feet,

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as well as certain features within those landscaping street trees,

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the park that we've complied with that correct.

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That's correct.

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And then all the zoning criteria,

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and I'll have the planar speed to this as well.

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But all of the bulk standards,

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standards as it relates to these, redevelopment plan, the applicant complies for the project

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complies. That's correct. And then you've had a chance to review Boswell's leather. I know we

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submitted a response letter to that. But can you just reiterate compliance with that letter, please?

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Yes. We were able to comply with the vast majority of all the comments already in our

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recent mission. And then the other comments are outstanding. We'll definitely be able to address

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that have inspired me of the resolution of compliance.

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Okay.

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I'm sure for this witness.

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Just to develop before you proceed further,

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is this generally going to cover the explanation

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through the board of what the details are for the encroachment

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on the barrel property?

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I understand that might be related to the certainly

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related to the board, it's not pretty too.

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Who's going to explain that encroachment,

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what's involved?

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What is it the engineer?

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What do you mean by encroachment?

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Just listen.

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Isn't there a sub-sort of encroachment

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or a drink with the barrel?

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And on barrel property?

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So, I mean, I can explain this, so the, the adjacent parcel, which is owned by the borough,

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the United Way has an approval to build on that site.

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Okay.

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We have a agreement with them to utilize the loading area.

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Okay.

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That's, that's on borough property now.

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It's going to be transferred to the United Way at some point,

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but it's borough property now.

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We have an agreement to use that word in space and we have to consent to do it and we have

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the borrowers consent as well to do it.

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So that's where the loading space is and that's where those three parking spaces are.

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In addition to that, scroll back up on the plane.

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The in our correct me from along the property line for the applicant. Okay

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Is right there. So as part of our settlement agreement with the virus, part of the negotiated housing settlement, we have to do street treat streetscape. That's what I was asking her before.

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We have a requirement to do a minimum of 2,000, but no more than 2,300 square feet of streetscape improvements there.

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that have to include and I can read you directly what it needs to include.

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Landscaping and street trees, hard scapes, sidewalk, lighting, benches, and approximately

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a 15 by 15 landscape parklet. So that is on the federal property and that is obviously

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negotiated and what the federal wanted as part of the agreement that we have with them.

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So that is pursuing to the terms of the settled exactly. I just think it's important to put

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that on the record and explain it through the boards and the board knows what that's all about

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I think you can see the best in front of any of the reviews I've seen, so I have a question.

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Yeah, the settlement agreement is, I think you guys have, or I can submit it if you don't have it.

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But yeah, that's where the encroachment onto the bottle property exists, and that's why I also adding that lighting fixture that we testified to

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comes into play because we had to add that lighting fixture, and we wanted it to be, um,

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because the exact fixture that the bottle uses, and that's why we had that slight design vapor.

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I think it's important to put down on the record, but I was quite confident that it was part of the

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settlement agreement, and the condition of the Board's Lewis, this project, for approval,

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that the terms of the settlement agreement, but for any amendments there, do it have to be comply.

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Of course.

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But I think it's important for the site of the presentation for the Board to understand exactly what that is.

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Yeah.

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That's right.

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And part of the settlement agreement, I'm glad you pointed up, was not only for the applicants

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to build the project, but also make these public improvements as part of the project as well.

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So all that being covered in the settlement agreement and the board is not pretty to that.

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And I'm not saying it's necessary.

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It's just important to lay that on the record.

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And then we can cover it appropriately in the research.

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Yeah, and we could also, I mean, if this is something the board would want.

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In our compliance document, we could just also indicate where we comply with the settlement agreement

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terms as it relates to the site of my items, just so you have it in your compliance set.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Tuba, I had a question.

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Sure.

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Some process.

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The testimony was that those three angled spots that are technically part of the

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program Academy of Labor Project are now being tweaked slightly, which makes sense.

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Just want to make sure that we're not writing any of the issues with their group site plan,

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whether we have to do any kind of amendments or whatever.

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Yeah.

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application, the United Way and the Burrow can sense it to it.

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I went over that with the, at that point with the Burrow's affordable housing attorney.

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And we went through that.

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So we are demanding that site plan to answer your question.

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So that, that is part of it.

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But I know we are going to do a set plan.

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That there a lot was included in the application.

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In this set we can correct.

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Yeah, and the redevelopment plan.

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So there were two ordinances that were adopted as it relates to the housing settlement, so one relates to the proposed building and then the other related to the public property, the post office property, I'll call it, in order to ensure that we were allowed to have the loading on that site.

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So that's why there were two amendments to two different ordinances as part of the process.

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I can't do that, I can't say that all correctly.

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You had it right?

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It helped me follow.

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Yeah, no problem.

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No, I appreciate that.

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I sure release is another sliver of burrow property behind the building at the corner of the corner.

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The correct is that it's still burrow property, or is it going wrong?

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The burrow property in any way.

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Oh, that's not, I thought I saw it on the survey.

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But

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where is that drawing? Is that a link on the online content to the kitchen to find it?

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Is it able to?

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It's not as an exhibit at the last event.

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Question to on the white waiver.

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Do you have a sense of where the spillage is most significant?

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Just really at curiosity.

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So is that really so much of a spillage?

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It's the regards to the lighting intensity, the average of the lighting intensity.

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So it's not so it's the coverage, it's just that the averages are quite what the furrows requirement was for that one particular

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Can't the screening when the transformer, which is a very ocean of Holly, did you prepare plans to be planned?

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I did not, but the landscape, we have a landscape architect, my office that did prepare the plan.

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So I know that the direction was to screen it on, we have to keep one side open.

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But the direction was to screen it on three sides, but obviously we're open to suggestions on the plan species.

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Yeah, I don't like it as the weeds on Oregon, but I don't know if that particular species

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the quality has thorn assert, for at least, if it does, and that's not one that I would

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suggest being along the side of law for people who don't want to be in law theory.

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I agree, I don't believe it does, but we will ensure that it does.

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Yeah, just not so that we don't want there.

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Also, if there's a ball in it, shown in our ballers showing that areas where between the transporter

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and along the side of the building,

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would you speak to the purpose of that?

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Yeah, so I think we always place,

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it's really the results of the public utility companies

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that they always want to file their super-tech transformers

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in meters, so that's representative of the service utility

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requirements, that's why we do that.

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But along the building, part of it.

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Well, I defer to the end.

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So curious, we will agree to provide, I guess,

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followers as the necessary positive utility providers.

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So they feel that the ballard is not needed.

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We would be acceptable to not have them as well.

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Thank you.

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And then the last one, another is a lot of discussion

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last meeting on the architectural testimony

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regarding the solid that will face the burden kind of

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my way of project and something much

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of regulations, the pillars to sort of break that up

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in the garage level because you can't have windows, obviously.

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But it does appear that there is narrow landscape

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that you've been on for the United States property.

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What do you think possible to explore and support

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national bound now that we know what's happening in your

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law and what's happening on theirs?

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Sometimes landscaping in my further screen.

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That's the song?

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Yeah, so in the, we get into the details of the weeds.

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So right now the burden of county does have some shrubs

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align that edge, but we would agree to enhance those, to fill in more shrubs, align that

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common edge.

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I mean, it's a fairly narrow bed, but I think it's still, you can get something that

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has a little bit greater height, and that's if I have with that the side, so my help then.

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Thank you.

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I mean, if you were following the bird cutting in the waist, there was a dry,

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to the parking right of Birmingham in the right.

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That's correct.

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Yeah.

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I don't know if there's a building would be there anymore.

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Right.

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It's a totally different situation.

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I don't know if there's any ability to widen that landscape,

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strip along their length of the site that might be parking there

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and I don't really recall them.

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Yeah, we probably have to have side.

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We'd be encroaching onto their site.

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So we basically held the same edge of their approval.

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So we didn't propose any changes in the line that edge to respect that.

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Just make something to explore.

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Not trying to pose a crazy dirt.

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It does feel like an opportunity now that this is sort of getting filled in when we have grapes.

429
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I think.

430
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Okay.

431
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Thank you for that.

432
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Lights in Post Office Plaza are not currently working.

433
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There's an issue with Jersey Central Power and Light in the connection.

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So, I would recommend that Mr. Blue speak with our director, D.P.W. regarding the light

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which changed all the lights in the chat to LED.

436
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Sorry, you know, I don't know how that relates to, you know, your way of a request

437
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may or may not affect it.

438
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So, we did use an LED fixture for that.

439
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Okay.

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That same silent LED fixture file, I got a map.

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was not aware that the lights out there today were there some type of connection issue. There

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were working through a Jersey Central power in life. The other thing is we use photos cells

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on all of our lights so that that's what should probably be on. So it would be a true dust

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time, type of fetch, exactly, and also H2M, or you have reviewed the letter from H2M,

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the August 20th letter regarding water and sewer.

446
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Yes.

447
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Okay.

448
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So we'll address their comments as far as a wire and sewer can actually.

449
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To my knowledge, that's not a will-serve letter.

450
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I don't know that we've provided a will-serve.

451
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So we got a water letter from the Burrow Engineer, which is where we received it.

452
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Thank you.

453
00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:07,850
Not everybody's coffee.

454
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I love seeing that.

455
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Okay.

456
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Water letter from the state.

457
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But we definitely provide.

458
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Yeah.

459
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I've been in a question that's from more members for Mr. Blue and the Engineer.

460
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Any members of the public have a question for the engineer.

461
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A few questions.

462
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Just referencing the letter.

463
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The law is well-insured and they're doing 17, 12, 12, 16.

464
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There's some of the agreement does include the lighting,

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can't be all made for public law.

466
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Yes?

467
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That's good.

468
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Is there any concern with the location of food

469
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that is to, like, full-fictures,

470
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mean, it's implicit or curable?

471
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Distribibly, they may be set back,

472
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probably two and a half to the field up the curve,

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as well as eyeable of the strikes,

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so that they can protect it from legal monuments.

475
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So I think as long as we do the alignment, I feel comfortable with that.

476
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Because it's always the challenge was there, sort of a narrow area, and we felt there's probably most appropriate to have the burrow parking lights actually on the burrow property.

477
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So, it's something the Board may want to consider.

478
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It makes sense having the BIRL like some BIRL property,

479
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:56,540
but it could be subject to being able to manage.

480
00:31:56,900 --> 00:31:59,140
We're just going to be something that the BIRL would have to maintain.

481
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:05,300
Versus that they're set back further than it'd be on the private property.

482
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,720
And then, you know, the question of who's going to maintain those,

483
00:32:09,780 --> 00:32:11,360
I guess, would have to be the second.

484
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:12,700
It's the applicant.

485
00:32:19,140 --> 00:32:20,520
Oh, how does your case resolve it?

486
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:20,800
Yeah.

487
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:28,080
I'll say, because it's only a couple different locations, we could use wheel stops to make sure

488
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:34,100
the vehicles don't encroach further into beyond the stalls, and there's a couple locations to let

489
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:37,240
out a more protection that would be one option.

490
00:32:45,780 --> 00:32:50,920
So, right now, I don't show them on a pedestal, but we could elevate them on a concrete pedestal.

491
00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:06,280
It is correct, so we've, right, what's out there now, it's really not.

492
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,940
There's not a continuous sidewalk and it's not ADA accessible, so you're right.

493
00:33:09,940 --> 00:33:13,700
This is a uniform walkway, which will be basically

494
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:17,820
slightly above this six inch curve, the new

495
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:21,520
curve.

496
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,580
Yeah, that will not be the concept with our proposed

497
00:33:25,580 --> 00:33:28,020
at the all-level typical.

498
00:33:29,380 --> 00:33:31,460
So I'd say if you had room for the wheel stops,

499
00:33:32,020 --> 00:33:35,160
most of the many of you can pay the required parking away

500
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,440
from that might be good approach.

501
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,800
I have a question, but I didn't think that that's previously.

502
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,800
May I have a minute?

503
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:44,580
No, I'm not.

504
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:53,160
I'm the last meeting you talked briefly about the issue of risk to kids coming up the

505
00:33:53,160 --> 00:34:01,140
sake towards the store area and just wondering if the ADA client, treatment that you're

506
00:34:01,140 --> 00:34:06,140
going to respond to earlier or any other accommodation that's going to kind of address

507
00:34:06,140 --> 00:34:10,220
that exposure gives up by filling up, that's pretty potentially

508
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,060
conflicting with course, you know, they understand.

509
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:17,220
So we do have a traffic engineer that's going to be next.

510
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,300
I can address that, but there's more measures than just the

511
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:25,400
detectable warnings, which also an indicator system that the traffic engineer

512
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,460
can tell us about.

513
00:34:26,780 --> 00:34:29,180
So it's two different types of protection levels.

514
00:34:31,310 --> 00:34:32,770
So I'm a member of the public has a question.

515
00:34:33,050 --> 00:34:34,590
Please come up and say something.

516
00:34:34,690 --> 00:34:36,890
The name is carried, or if you can come to the mic,

517
00:34:36,890 --> 00:34:39,210
we need it for the recording.

518
00:34:40,290 --> 00:34:41,630
David, I address this as well.

519
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,200
The name is Karen Borough 49.

520
00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:47,440
You said that.

521
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,140
Fuller Avenue.

522
00:34:50,020 --> 00:34:50,880
This property.

523
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,040
Could you please tell me a little more?

524
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:52,300
Sure.

525
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,140
Bees and Boy.

526
00:34:53,460 --> 00:34:55,600
O-R-O-F-F.

527
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,140
Thank you.

528
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,800
Since this property is in historic district.

529
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:21,520
You know, three of the members of the Historic Preservation Committee are here tonight. We just want to be sure that this body gives due regard to the considerations and recommendations that were made, including landscape being ambient, lighting, and several other things. Just want to make sure that that is least considered as you go forward with this plan.

530
00:35:22,380 --> 00:35:22,800
Thank you.

531
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,940
Thank you for that.

532
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,820
Mr. Book, can you speak to how you respond to the HVC's letter?

533
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,900
Yeah, I believe with those issues.

534
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,520
Right, right.

535
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,160
So I guess, like, say, the light?

536
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:32,860
It's the architecture.

537
00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:36,720
So the light fixtures are compatible to the building architecture,

538
00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:39,060
so they blend with all of the same palette there.

539
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,420
And then the landscaping, you know, we're using native species

540
00:35:42,420 --> 00:35:43,640
and things of that nature.

541
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,260
So I feel that we're compliant with what they're requesting.

542
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,080
Our next.

543
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:58,640
Not actually.

544
00:35:58,960 --> 00:35:59,380
I'm sorry.

545
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:05,650
So one of the things to do

546
00:36:05,650 --> 00:36:14,950
is your realignment of the curve in the BCUW plan to make sure that you let up with that

547
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:21,590
a lot of five curve without the curve being in one. And here's showing that was I think

548
00:36:21,590 --> 00:36:29,950
five others. That being able to five others. But that actually shows us an E and

549
00:36:29,950 --> 00:36:36,870
on their plans, have he court-related with the 21 and the engineer for the 21 plans or?

550
00:36:37,070 --> 00:36:42,890
So we do have their plans, and that should have been, well, B&L if I asked to correct, because

551
00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:47,130
that was one of the comments that was supposed to be addressed within the review letter.

552
00:36:47,790 --> 00:36:54,330
So we're going to do the B&L as part of this project, and of course the review letter.

553
00:36:54,690 --> 00:36:55,470
That was the intention.

554
00:36:55,470 --> 00:36:59,850
And you're also modifying this mechanism as per changes as well.

555
00:37:00,030 --> 00:37:01,090
Yes, correct.

556
00:37:01,570 --> 00:37:04,390
Because right due to the changes of the angle of the stalls,

557
00:37:04,990 --> 00:37:09,790
then we have, I will say this and if they go first,

558
00:37:10,010 --> 00:37:14,470
we probably will coordinate with them to make the changes.

559
00:37:15,050 --> 00:37:18,570
Because then they would have the spaces, I don't know

560
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:23,570
much about timing, they may need those three spaces before we get

561
00:37:23,570 --> 00:37:25,230
to build those curve violence.

562
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:28,330
So we would coordinate with that, the bell for it

563
00:37:28,330 --> 00:37:30,210
to make the slight changes as needed.

564
00:37:32,190 --> 00:37:33,610
So one of the questions is for you

565
00:37:33,610 --> 00:37:36,910
is if you're doing the applicant is doing all

566
00:37:36,910 --> 00:37:40,250
site improvements is a site plan as far as for that.

567
00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:43,310
Yeah, we said that earlier, but we're

568
00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:46,050
mentioning that site, we're mentioning their plan

569
00:37:46,050 --> 00:37:48,710
for the loading area and the parking

570
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:51,390
that we were proposed at the park and entering.

571
00:37:54,590 --> 00:37:56,150
And it's my point with the coordination

572
00:37:56,150 --> 00:38:01,870
is we don't want them to put in their island's wrong, then I have us rip them out and redo them.

573
00:38:02,010 --> 00:38:04,530
So that's why we want to coordinate to get it done once.

574
00:38:04,910 --> 00:38:05,950
Yeah, let's say.

575
00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:14,880
Well, I don't know if it's you or the traffic engineer, but I was thinking about facing current

576
00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:16,220
constructions.

577
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,640
You can show them randomly obstruct the existing sidewalk on top of the state and there's

578
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,920
not a sidewalk on the other side.

579
00:38:22,060 --> 00:38:27,840
So is there, like, a phasing plan that could, we could, we could, we could, we could do as a

580
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,820
of approval. This happens a lot. I think we could do a phasing plan

581
00:38:31,820 --> 00:38:34,560
and coordinate it with your police department and the administrator

582
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,780
just to make sure that you're saying that there's access in those areas.

583
00:38:40,020 --> 00:38:43,380
So, yeah, I think that's a good idea to do a traffic control plan as a condition

584
00:38:43,380 --> 00:38:44,120
ever for a moment.

585
00:38:44,420 --> 00:38:44,620
Thank you.

586
00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:50,100
Now, with respect to the lighting, you've been given the waiver for the

587
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:53,780
like trespass. I believe testimony, the last meeting was there going to be some

588
00:38:53,780 --> 00:38:57,380
I'd like to honor them with the building, which I've also required

589
00:38:57,380 --> 00:39:04,820
a way of under 165-78 if you want to see, just because, you know,

590
00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:08,040
the lighting is being directed about the heart now.

591
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:10,020
So just good.

592
00:39:12,090 --> 00:39:15,430
Yeah, I was, at back end, let me have the architect address that,

593
00:39:15,570 --> 00:39:19,110
because I think that was his testimony, I think his testimony was a way

594
00:39:19,110 --> 00:39:21,850
that was not required, but he's coming back so I can have him

595
00:39:22,770 --> 00:39:23,370
Do

596
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,980
you think else the engineers?

597
00:39:31,580 --> 00:39:33,240
I just have a question.

598
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:33,800
I'm sorry.

599
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:34,760
I'm sorry.

600
00:39:35,180 --> 00:39:36,900
The H2M letter.

601
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:41,400
So my understanding that you agreed to address the business.

602
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:44,900
That you agreed to comply with their request.

603
00:39:45,620 --> 00:39:49,340
So we agree from the connection points and things of that nature.

604
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,200
We fully agree.

605
00:39:50,660 --> 00:39:57,800
The one thing that was emitted from that letter is that there was no credit given for the existing development on the property.

606
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,960
So one thing we are definitely going to discuss with...

607
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:09,860
And that was getting credit from a connection fee stand point for the existing development. But as far as the technical connections were all good, the connection fees is where we're going to have another discussion with them.

608
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,680
You know, you have to wait for the gate, but you have a physical stop sign on all of this space in the back of the sky.

609
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:49,680
I think we, I mean, the police department commented that they didn't have any recognition with it, but if the board feels, if that's an extra layer of protection,

610
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,080
I don't think we would have an issue with it at all.

611
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,780
So, it's interesting.

612
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:00,380
Okay, so we're going to take a look.

613
00:41:01,780 --> 00:41:03,540
The next one, this is our traffic engineering.

614
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:12,540
It's a clinic with Dolmethin V. So he has not the so often testified yet, so we do the swear

615
00:41:12,540 --> 00:41:13,540
command and call for it.

616
00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:15,460
Thank you, Councillor.

617
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,720
You ready, sir?

618
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,080
I'm ready.

619
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,240
Do you swear that the testimony in any evidence or exhibit you offer?

620
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:26,800
I testify two before the planning board that the testimony reports will be the truth,

621
00:41:26,860 --> 00:41:28,020
and nothing but the truth itself.

622
00:41:28,420 --> 00:41:28,960
I do.

623
00:41:29,540 --> 00:41:31,640
For the record, would you give us your full name?

624
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,200
having the last name, your business affiliation and address.

625
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:37,380
Sure, my name is Douglas Polineak,

626
00:41:37,580 --> 00:41:40,820
P. is in Peter, O. L. Y. N. I. A. K.

627
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,940
I'm a senior project engineer with Dolan and Dean Consulting

628
00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:47,760
Engineers located at 181 West High Street in Summerville,

629
00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:48,180
New Jersey.

630
00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:49,700
Thank you.

631
00:41:49,820 --> 00:41:51,320
All right, does that like the previous one?

632
00:41:51,460 --> 00:41:53,280
This, if you give the board the benefit of your credentials,

633
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,760
education, background, licenses, health, and experience

634
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,160
testifying as a traffic engineer in the state of New Jersey?

635
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:00,120
Absolutely.

636
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,040
I have a Bachelor's of Science in Civil Engineering from Lee High University in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.

637
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,020
I acquired that degree in 1998.

638
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,420
I've been working to field of traffic engineering since that time.

639
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,780
I'm a licensed engineer in the State of New Jersey. My license is current invalid.

640
00:42:15,940 --> 00:42:18,200
I've been licensed for approximately the last 22 years.

641
00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:24,100
I've testified for over 120 municipal planning and zoning boards within the State of New Jersey.

642
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:28,480
And I was recently here for the A.J.D.M. application on Riverview.

643
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,200
I have a report except Mr. Funnier.

644
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:31,920
I have a report.

645
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:32,360
Thanks.

646
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,300
Thank you.

647
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:34,460
All right.

648
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,440
So Doug, your office prepared a traffic impact statement as a release to this project?

649
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:39,980
Yes.

650
00:42:40,380 --> 00:42:40,600
All right.

651
00:42:40,780 --> 00:42:45,300
So if you could walk the board through your findings as it relates to the trip generation and parking,

652
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,340
and you've heard some of the comments from some of the board members as it relates to the exit,

653
00:42:49,460 --> 00:42:51,340
and I'm sure any of you could address those as well.

654
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:58,700
I mean, from a traffic impact, an engineer perspective, a redevelopment for 29 residential units

655
00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:04,120
is a very light case when it applies to your trip generation during the peak hours in

656
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,240
bound and outbound movements.

657
00:43:06,620 --> 00:43:10,580
In fact, with the site being occupied previously by a Delhi and a liquor store and an

658
00:43:10,580 --> 00:43:15,440
auto body facility, this development gives an opportunity for the actual chance to reduce

659
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,440
peak hour traffic associated with this lot, but these two lots.

660
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:23,820
So, to review the potential traffic impacts of this site, and it's anticipated peak hour

661
00:43:23,820 --> 00:43:30,280
trip generation, our office prepared our March 16th, 2026 traffic impact assessment.

662
00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:37,300
Within that report, we use the Institute of Transportation Engineers' 12th edition of

663
00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:41,160
the trip generation manual to estimate peak hour traffic.

664
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,460
without just, so we encourage it for the record,

665
00:43:43,580 --> 00:43:45,960
I believe it's dated April 16th.

666
00:43:46,060 --> 00:43:47,260
Well, you're absolutely correct.

667
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:47,760
I have a question.

668
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,500
Okay, this one I've never, it was clear.

669
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:51,820
100% right, that's April 16th report.

670
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,860
Yeah, thank you.

671
00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:56,460
So we used the trip generation manual prepared

672
00:43:56,460 --> 00:43:59,060
by the institution, it's the two to transportation engineers.

673
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,980
We used multifamily housing low rise

674
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:04,560
without consideration of rail access,

675
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,540
which allows for a conservative analysis

676
00:44:06,540 --> 00:44:09,220
because the rail line in their station is

677
00:44:09,220 --> 00:44:13,720
approximately a third of my walk possibly even less from this development.

678
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:20,000
So when you run those numbers for 29 units, you find that during those peak hours,

679
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:23,240
the maximum inbound app on trips is about 15 trips.

680
00:44:24,260 --> 00:44:27,860
So like say, in the evening, which is our busy peak hour, you have nine entering vehicles

681
00:44:27,860 --> 00:44:30,020
and six exiting during that hour.

682
00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:33,920
Those are very low volumes for development.

683
00:44:34,580 --> 00:44:38,940
They equate to one movement into or out of this building, the parking lot.

684
00:44:39,220 --> 00:44:43,800
a parking garage every four minutes during that hour, which is negligible from an impact

685
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,420
perspective.

686
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,960
But in addition to that, the Institute of Transportation Engineers and the New Jersey Department

687
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:56,440
of Transportation Consider 100 peak hour trips as significant need of an analysis that could

688
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,360
determine if there's any off-site impacts with development.

689
00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:07,200
The site is going to generate about 15% of that volume, which basically demonstrates its minimal anticipated impact at the surrounding roadway network.

690
00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:16,440
Now, that doesn't even consider the fact that the subject property is currently occupied by a couple of commercial uses, Delhi and the liquor store.

691
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:24,080
So we did a quick analysis to determine what your generation potential those uses have on the site and compare it to which is proposed.

692
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:30,180
So, performing that analysis, we found that this site actually, with 29 apartments, good potentially do,

693
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,480
somewhere along the lines of 20 to 30 peak hour trips less than what the trip generation

694
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,980
potential is for the uses on site.

695
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:43,580
So, as I stated earlier, the development presents a unique opportunity to reduce traffic associated with this property.

696
00:45:44,620 --> 00:45:50,580
It shouldn't have, or will not have any newer adverse negative impacts to the surrounding roadway network.

697
00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:57,500
Also, as part of our report, we reviewed the site plan for the access, circulation and

698
00:45:57,500 --> 00:46:01,120
parking, as you heard from previous testimony,

699
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,920
the access will be primarily provided via

700
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:12,200
a new inbound and outbound driveway, which will have garage doors that will be replacing

701
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:20,760
in a solo or single vehicle access to the auto facility, which promotes or requires inbound

702
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:27,300
an outbound vehicles, a reverse maneuver, and also the driveway in between the two buildings

703
00:46:27,300 --> 00:46:30,040
that's currently in egress on the drive, it will be replaced as well.

704
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,760
The access will lead to the parking garage, which provides 56 parking spaces.

705
00:46:35,580 --> 00:46:41,020
Those spaces will be accessed via 24 foot wide, two way drive aisles, and the spaces will

706
00:46:41,020 --> 00:46:45,820
dimension 9 feet wide by 18 feet deep, and all those dimensions are consistent with

707
00:46:45,820 --> 00:46:50,740
industry standards and RSI of standards. As far as parking supply, the

708
00:46:50,740 --> 00:46:54,440
ordinance requires one and a half parking spaces per unit, which total is 44

709
00:46:54,440 --> 00:47:01,700
spaces. For the 29 units at that rate, we are at 56 parking spaces, which is about

710
00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:07,200
1.9 per unit, which exceeds the ordinance. So based on the ordinance and based on

711
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:14,200
proximity to the train station as well as busing opportunity in the area.

712
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:20,340
Since history there's more than sufficient parking associated with this project for residents as well as visitors.

713
00:47:22,580 --> 00:47:30,720
With respect to the driveway, there's been some discussions regarding safety, pedestrians and through a comedy that

714
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:36,180
to assist along with how you heard Mr. Blue had said that along the sidewalk, the applicant

715
00:47:36,180 --> 00:47:40,800
is agreed to put the detectable warning surfaces. Those are those truncated textured

716
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:49,920
pavement, which will notify pedestrians tactically, tactically, tactily. See that, that

717
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:56,300
there is a change in atmosphere. There's a driveway or a roadway. It'll also help with those

718
00:47:56,300 --> 00:48:05,400
If they have a visual assistance, in addition to that, a light identification will be mounted

719
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,180
to the building.

720
00:48:06,740 --> 00:48:13,100
It will be actuated and it will be triggered by the garage or the car exiting the site.

721
00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:19,680
It will basically indicate to the pedestrians on mistake that a vehicle will be exiting from

722
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:20,100
the garage.

723
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:27,940
So, those two items are proposed as well as a redesign to recess the garage as well to provide some additional

724
00:48:27,940 --> 00:48:36,100
sight lines for drivers and pedestrians and we're agreeable all such providing stop sign and stop bars was just mentioned so.

725
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:43,680
I think all accommodations have been made to ensure that, you know, there's an element of pedestrian safety and

726
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,940
notification that there is a driveway and traffic activity at this location.

727
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,980
And to me, I think it's actually, overall could be potentially an improved situation

728
00:48:51,980 --> 00:48:58,540
because we are removing the driveway that's associated with that autophacility and the

729
00:48:58,540 --> 00:48:59,040
egress driveway.

730
00:48:59,180 --> 00:49:03,600
That doesn't have any of the elements that we're proposing here with the lighting indication.

731
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:10,500
So overall, I think the site has been designed, certainly internally, with respect to

732
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:14,440
parking, quantity, dimensions, drive-out dimensions,

733
00:49:15,340 --> 00:49:18,220
with respect to traffic impact and volume,

734
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,000
and with respect to the treatments that are being taken

735
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,800
to assist with pedestrian vehicle,

736
00:49:26,940 --> 00:49:27,620
I was a conflict,

737
00:49:29,340 --> 00:49:31,180
but you know, Inter, thank you.

738
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,980
That's exactly the word I was looking for.

739
00:49:33,580 --> 00:49:35,320
I think this site has been designed well,

740
00:49:35,460 --> 00:49:38,480
and I think the location is appropriate for this site.

741
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:44,860
that thanks to just two follow-ups, the parking spaces. We obviously comply with the ordinance as

742
00:49:44,860 --> 00:49:49,500
really it's the number of spaces, but you have the opportunity to review the dimensions and the

743
00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:54,420
aisle widths in the parking areas in your professional opinion. Are they designed properly?

744
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,980
Absolutely, yes. Okay. We also comply with the number of EV, as well as EVA parking space.

745
00:50:00,270 --> 00:50:08,430
Yes, the plan has been revised to provide the sufficient number of EV spaces at 7, and there's say 1 EV 80 spaces as well.

746
00:50:08,430 --> 00:50:10,530
Okay. All right. Thank you.

747
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,440
It is my understanding that they will be assigned for you, it's yes.

748
00:50:21,820 --> 00:50:28,340
I think the testimony last time was that because there's an excess parking in the anticipation that there would be visitor parking available.

749
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,020
So, and that would be based on coordination with the management,

750
00:50:33,780 --> 00:50:35,700
against an advance they can pass or something.

751
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,840
Would they just park wherever there's an available spot?

752
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:40,920
I mean, sorry.

753
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:43,340
I think what would make the most sense,

754
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:49,480
would it lead a science basis to the obviously the people that are live in the building?

755
00:50:50,340 --> 00:50:53,180
And then you would assign the rest of the spaces as visitor spaces,

756
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,260
so people know where to park.

757
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,920
So to your point, people aren't just driving in.

758
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,840
when they're aware of the visitor space as you have, you know, if it's more, it's organized

759
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,340
in a way where you have people that live there, they know where they are, and then you have

760
00:51:04,340 --> 00:51:08,300
a visitor section, I think. Yeah, I thought you would be fine with that, that's what the board

761
00:51:08,300 --> 00:51:10,240
prefers. I think so. Thank you. Sure.

762
00:51:12,580 --> 00:51:17,360
I think these spaces, these are, as I understand, six spaces where they're located on,

763
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,320
I guess, the South wall, I guess, the train track wall, closest to the entrance to the garage,

764
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,740
the correct? Yeah, I believe so, yes.

765
00:51:23,900 --> 00:51:27,740
And the fire departments are using this, I know that generally they like them to be as close

766
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:46,880
I don't believe, and just let me know. I don't believe in it. I see the police, and I know I was going to see if I see a fire letter alone, sorry.

767
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:50,640
Yeah, between the police and the fire.

768
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,640
They're located where they should be.

769
00:51:52,700 --> 00:51:53,020
Yes.

770
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,900
This is the bottom line.

771
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:55,980
Last one.

772
00:51:56,460 --> 00:51:58,400
Question about the ADA spaces.

773
00:51:59,620 --> 00:52:04,180
There's one that's located what looks to be, because we move in.

774
00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:07,900
I guess that is an elevator for people moving in.

775
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:10,480
And it's right at the head of the ADA space.

776
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:11,600
And it's for the ADA space.

777
00:52:11,660 --> 00:52:13,360
Yeah, I think that's a city elevator, correct.

778
00:52:13,860 --> 00:52:17,680
Do you see any interesting issues with their gang instructions?

779
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:24,340
It's not ADA space, what we're working on, and have things, which is their potential to

780
00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:29,180
designate a place while you're moving in to have your stuff, basically, so you're not

781
00:52:29,180 --> 00:52:30,620
constructing an ADA spot.

782
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,440
Well, that is the path that is used from loading if there's a large vehicle to move stuff

783
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,160
into the building.

784
00:52:39,980 --> 00:52:46,080
I don't necessarily see a very often conflict of an ADA part space in a moving.

785
00:52:46,580 --> 00:52:49,120
So I don't know if that necessarily is something that needs to be a comedy.

786
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,920
This was the original before we saw that change of the...

787
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,220
I don't know how to describe it.

788
00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:12,120
But it looks to me if I'm really describing the trucks comedy.

789
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,840
This way and they pass in front of the building.

790
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,360
They come up by the post of the name reverse into this loading space.

791
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:19,780
Correct.

792
00:53:19,780 --> 00:53:21,280
And then they go out the other way.

793
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:21,800
That's correct.

794
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:28,060
Is there any issue now with this change of the angles of those three spaces?

795
00:53:28,060 --> 00:53:35,740
and that extend it, and sort of all, they're still enough room for the trucks to come in and come back.

796
00:53:36,020 --> 00:53:40,820
Yeah, I actually think I would testify that to your question, I was actually, we did not to improve that.

797
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:41,460
Right.

798
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:47,760
So this, which looks quite tight now, is alleviated by the change in that.

799
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:52,820
The angle of the partners' basis were changed to keep people backing up away from the loading.

800
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:53,320
Yeah.

801
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,960
To give it more breathing onto your point.

802
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:59,250
So they're going to come in one way.

803
00:53:59,510 --> 00:54:00,630
Yeah, those are what?

804
00:54:00,930 --> 00:54:04,050
Be back in and then they swing out and go around.

805
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:05,570
That's right, this one.

806
00:54:07,450 --> 00:54:08,290
I want to take a question.

807
00:54:08,690 --> 00:54:09,170
Thank you, sir.

808
00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:12,610
But I had, because I spoiled the word.

809
00:54:12,730 --> 00:54:14,870
I used this all the time to cut through in the way.

810
00:54:15,130 --> 00:54:15,670
Main Street.

811
00:54:16,290 --> 00:54:16,650
I don't know why.

812
00:54:16,830 --> 00:54:17,830
I think you asked for a second.

813
00:54:17,830 --> 00:54:18,350
I think you asked for a second.

814
00:54:18,510 --> 00:54:18,890
I think you asked for a second.

815
00:54:18,890 --> 00:54:18,970
You asked for a second.

816
00:54:18,970 --> 00:54:22,930
Did you see any issue with the other of the garbage

817
00:54:22,930 --> 00:54:29,270
of the box truck, making the turn sort of around the post office building and out of

818
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:29,870
ours way.

819
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:33,650
It's a little tight as you should make that little as turn.

820
00:54:34,930 --> 00:54:38,230
It's not shown, it's not shown as a movement when we start the election plan.

821
00:54:38,590 --> 00:54:42,150
But it would be basically like you keep going and pulling it to the north.

822
00:54:42,750 --> 00:54:43,310
To the north.

823
00:54:43,310 --> 00:54:43,350
To the east.

824
00:54:43,830 --> 00:54:45,650
It goes this way all the time.

825
00:54:46,070 --> 00:54:46,330
So.

826
00:54:49,570 --> 00:54:50,490
To the right.

827
00:54:50,770 --> 00:54:51,030
To the right.

828
00:54:51,310 --> 00:54:51,730
So.

829
00:54:52,350 --> 00:54:52,910
Yeah.

830
00:54:52,910 --> 00:54:59,970
That may be a difficult turn if it could be the truck is staged and it's spot to make that right turn.

831
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:25,720
Well, I was thinking more about the event. For example, a garbage truck is serving hours lane, and they might, I don't know if they would come in off hours lane for mainstream, if you would do that. So you would probably come through the parking lot, continue past this building, keep going into hours lane, it's a slight term. Is there any issue you foresee with a large truck making that maneuver? Do you understand what I'm saying?

832
00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:29,300
I mean, I mean, you're coming from Pasek.

833
00:55:29,420 --> 00:55:30,800
Coming this way?

834
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,640
Like, into the parking lot from the north of Pasek.

835
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:33,860
Yep.

836
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,900
And the truck would continue past your building, past the loading area.

837
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,560
So we're turning around around the Northern County Highway Project

838
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,520
to Bauer's Lane.

839
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,520
Is that an issue?

840
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,960
Making that little slight turn?

841
00:55:46,180 --> 00:55:46,680
I don't think so.

842
00:55:48,060 --> 00:55:49,840
This is sort of a pinch point,

843
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,560
but you still have about 20 feet, I think?

844
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,860
Yeah, I think as long as there's no obstructions

845
00:55:54,860 --> 00:55:56,520
if there wasn't a truck in the loading zone,

846
00:55:56,660 --> 00:55:58,100
I think it certainly could be doable.

847
00:55:58,720 --> 00:55:59,140
Just a question.

848
00:55:59,140 --> 00:56:02,700
Is the current drive being relocated

849
00:56:02,700 --> 00:56:04,880
on the south side of the post office?

850
00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:07,120
No, I don't think so.

851
00:56:07,780 --> 00:56:09,700
So there's more things now in the course.

852
00:56:09,820 --> 00:56:12,680
Yeah, this, but I mean, trucks go through there,

853
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,940
go through there all the time.

854
00:56:14,980 --> 00:56:17,000
Sounds of different track and trail of people.

855
00:56:17,260 --> 00:56:17,860
Yeah, too.

856
00:56:18,220 --> 00:56:19,760
The hardware stores, the factors.

857
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:21,200
OK.

858
00:56:22,060 --> 00:56:22,640
Thank you.

859
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:25,440
Anybody else?

860
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,660
And the board for the question,

861
00:56:30,820 --> 00:56:33,820
any members of the public have questions on traffic parking?

862
00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:53,710
The name is Maurice Gatley, GAT, E.L.Y. I reside at 45th South Pacific Avenue. I've resided there for 20 years.

863
00:56:54,690 --> 00:56:57,650
I'm still concerned about the traffic on South Pacific.

864
00:56:57,810 --> 00:57:04,010
Rush down, even though you say one every few four minutes in South Pacific's only two blocks long,

865
00:57:04,010 --> 00:57:08,990
The only way you get out of South Pacific is you got to go on tour across Main Street.

866
00:57:09,410 --> 00:57:12,950
There's a very long traffic light there, which is, there's a really set.

867
00:57:13,290 --> 00:57:16,370
So you keep the heavy east west traffic going and not doing so.

868
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:19,590
I have to swear to you because you're making a statement.

869
00:57:20,170 --> 00:57:21,810
We may have to address that in a minute.

870
00:57:22,270 --> 00:57:24,670
Okay. This is the part of the meeting to talk about questions.

871
00:57:25,230 --> 00:57:27,470
But you're, I assume you could ask a question, this gentleman.

872
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:32,410
This is the applicant's traffic expert, not in the address in the board, because that's where we are at the meeting.

873
00:57:32,410 --> 00:57:39,230
So you're making a statement and nothing critical about what you believe to be the conditions that is going to be on the road

874
00:57:39,230 --> 00:57:44,330
You swear that the testimony you're providing this hearing is the truth and nothing but the chase help you got it

875
00:57:44,330 --> 00:57:45,550
I certainly do that is

876
00:57:46,910 --> 00:57:54,490
And the other way to get out is to go on the fair mouth avenue either by a second street or by a

877
00:57:54,490 --> 00:57:58,310
Firehouse Plaza, which is also pretty heavily perfect during the rush hour

878
00:57:58,310 --> 00:58:03,610
So if you consider all of those things that you're really not expecting any backouts in traffic,

879
00:58:03,790 --> 00:58:06,690
I'm sorry I can't have a dude doing much of it.

880
00:58:10,340 --> 00:58:10,660
Yeah, sure.

881
00:58:12,380 --> 00:58:17,800
I mean, that's what we consider when we reviewed our trip numbers as part of our statement.

882
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:24,400
And if this were a vacant property, we'd be generating a handful of trips more than what is there

883
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,340
over a vacant property.

884
00:58:25,340 --> 00:58:31,180
However, it is an active site, which does he traffic similar to if not more so than what we're

885
00:58:31,180 --> 00:58:37,140
opposing, but even a war in an active site, it's a very low volume, and I wouldn't anticipate

886
00:58:37,140 --> 00:58:43,160
they're being any noticeable impacts at the light of Maine, or, you know, come here, towards

887
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:43,820
Firmham.

888
00:58:44,700 --> 00:58:48,720
It's actually likely that the park is a choice you want to improve in this lot, and not the

889
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:49,780
downed air to it.

890
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:50,740
Yeah, absolutely.

891
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,420
You're not going to have a retail component that's, you know, in and out.

892
00:58:53,580 --> 00:58:56,760
It's more of a consistent one-way flow during the mornings and evenings.

893
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,700
Anybody else from the public, question for the traffic?

894
00:59:07,340 --> 00:59:10,160
Next witness, I would like to recall Mr. Lawson.

895
00:59:10,540 --> 00:59:13,540
So he was previously sworn and accepted by the board,

896
00:59:13,660 --> 00:59:15,240
as the expert in the field of architecture.

897
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,760
And Mr. Lawson has already come back to just explain some of the modifications

898
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,940
that were proposing based on some of the comments that the board made that go last me.

899
00:59:25,380 --> 00:59:27,080
So, Michael, you, sir.

900
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,260
So you recognize you remain under oath to suit me.

901
00:59:29,420 --> 00:59:29,880
I do.

902
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,600
with record just if you're thinking your full name and your affiliation with the project.

903
00:59:35,060 --> 00:59:39,140
I might go loss in and I am a principal at the home hospital, I get some players and I was

904
00:59:39,140 --> 00:59:41,080
the project architect for this project.

905
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,900
Thank you. It's really nice and it's still good for my small.

906
00:59:44,140 --> 00:59:44,520
It is.

907
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:54,600
So thank you so much. We have three sheets of exhibit that I'd like to enter into the record.

908
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,320
Yeah, so we're up to, yeah, but we're up to A6, I believe.

909
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:08,340
So, if you want to do it all at one point. Yeah. So, if it's okay, we can call A6, consistent with three sheets and just indicate the date.

910
01:00:08,460 --> 01:00:10,320
Yeah, the date is obviously.

911
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:11,160
Thank you.

912
01:00:11,260 --> 01:00:11,600
Thank you.

913
01:00:14,730 --> 01:00:20,410
Those sheets are labeled A03, A08, and A12.

914
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:28,490
Three is a revision to the second floor plan.

915
01:00:29,150 --> 01:00:36,850
And the notation that is the revision is we did add a private small private terrace located right here for the two

916
01:00:36,850 --> 01:00:44,990
reportable unit in this location. It is set back from the railroad property line as well as in this location.

917
01:00:45,110 --> 01:00:49,090
It feels so it's appropriate and scaled appropriately for the two better reportable unit.

918
01:00:49,830 --> 01:00:52,970
So we did make that modification at the request of the board.

919
01:00:54,170 --> 01:01:01,510
The next item I'm going to move to AO8, which was a further discussion that we had about

920
01:01:01,510 --> 01:01:10,050
the railroad building side elevation, and if remember and recall before, we had had one

921
01:01:10,050 --> 01:01:17,250
consistent color of lap sighting along the existing train track area in the embankment.

922
01:01:17,470 --> 01:01:23,670
What we have done now is we've broken that space up into three sections, a lighter section,

923
01:01:23,830 --> 01:01:29,490
a darker section, and a lighter section, as well as based on comments from the boards.

924
01:01:29,490 --> 01:01:39,530
We have added areas of light colored lab sighting to indicate if a window could be there, it would be there to break down that massing a little bit more.

925
01:01:39,890 --> 01:01:46,850
I will remind the board based on the testimony before that there are some trees and vegetation that is located there.

926
01:01:46,970 --> 01:01:52,830
The advancement as well comes up to this existing tree track line that we've noted on the plans.

927
01:01:52,830 --> 01:01:58,330
So we do feel as though we've met the intentions that we talked about previously at the last

928
01:01:58,330 --> 01:01:58,650
here.

929
01:02:01,370 --> 01:02:06,130
And then the last item that I wanted to present tonight is H12.

930
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:12,110
And here is a modified perspective that shows that we have extended the Eaves.

931
01:02:12,850 --> 01:02:19,910
That was a comment from the HPC about extending those Eaves at the top of the building.

932
01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:25,470
That's located right here in these different areas where we do have the standing seam

933
01:02:25,470 --> 01:02:28,990
bell of Ruth and in that location we've extended the ease.

934
01:02:29,050 --> 01:02:31,590
Originally they were between two and four inches.

935
01:02:32,170 --> 01:02:32,590
I agree.

936
01:02:32,930 --> 01:02:38,630
They were not consistent with some of the other locations throughout the downtown.

937
01:02:39,090 --> 01:02:44,130
Now we've increased those to eight to 12 inches, which we think is more representative of

938
01:02:44,130 --> 01:02:46,930
some of the other areas of your downtown area.

939
01:02:46,930 --> 01:02:53,650
So, those are the different items that we had in terms of the free pieces that we talked about at the last hearing.

940
01:02:55,930 --> 01:03:07,470
And I believe just to remind the board in terms of the HPC letter, the request was to extend those roof leaves to 8 to 12 inches that we are doing.

941
01:03:07,810 --> 01:03:10,970
And we did include exterior lighting now on the building.

942
01:03:10,970 --> 01:03:20,030
To answer the question that was brought up by Mr. Bolio, we are adding lighting to the building.

943
01:03:20,350 --> 01:03:26,870
We added a few different petit lights on the ground floor, as well as we did add up lighting at the corner.

944
01:03:27,110 --> 01:03:36,910
But that up lighting to be consistent with your ordinance is actually shot towards the front peer and does not extend past that horizontal data at the top of the building.

945
01:03:36,910 --> 01:03:44,990
So, we do believe that we're meeting the intent of the zoning coordinates by not shining the light directly up towards the sky,

946
01:03:45,210 --> 01:03:50,730
but positioning them to the date, shining towards the building, and don't go past that horizontal data,

947
01:03:51,170 --> 01:03:54,530
which actually helps us with the extended Eve at the top of the building.

948
01:03:56,870 --> 01:04:00,390
I believe that covers most of the items that I wanted to bring up tonight.

949
01:04:01,350 --> 01:04:04,650
I'll just find it, Mr. Washington, to go over those minor modifications, doesn't it?

950
01:04:05,390 --> 01:04:10,190
I just have a quick question looking at that, maybe question, this is a question being used.

951
01:04:11,150 --> 01:04:17,530
The borough currently has public parking spacing along that side on the weather building.

952
01:04:17,710 --> 01:04:22,010
As you can in this picture, you can see two cars going off the side.

953
01:04:22,910 --> 01:04:26,450
But those public parking spaces are going to stay now.

954
01:04:26,450 --> 01:04:33,630
for that help, Mr. Gayden is concerned about traffic and stuff coming down here, people

955
01:04:33,630 --> 01:04:39,090
being able to see the difference. If there was no parking on that side, so there was much

956
01:04:39,090 --> 01:04:42,990
more obvious, because coming in and out of the garage.

957
01:04:43,850 --> 01:04:52,070
Yeah, I mean, I believe that those experiences, so to answer your question, we were, that's

958
01:04:52,070 --> 01:04:55,630
in the public right of us, so we can't eliminate, we have no rights or eliminate those spaces.

959
01:04:55,630 --> 01:04:56,550
Yeah, that's what it's like.

960
01:04:56,570 --> 01:04:57,510
But it's right, so you're right.

961
01:04:57,770 --> 01:04:59,970
So it would really get covered in body decision.

962
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:14,000
If they felt that those spaces needed to be removed. I would also say in terms of urban planning and a downtown or into area which we're in, you do want a parallel part in space against the sidewalk because they offer buffer in.

963
01:05:14,340 --> 01:05:26,980
And it's actually a traffic calming condition that a lot of urban planners use to actually contract it. So that you don't have a very wide roadway that people can move very quickly down.

964
01:05:26,980 --> 01:05:32,460
If you narrow that roadway, people will have an athlete slow their car down, and that actually

965
01:05:32,460 --> 01:05:34,240
makes it much more safer for pedestrians.

966
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,440
You know, it might be something beyond your control affirming, but see, it might be something

967
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:46,580
for the bird I look into is getting them sidewalk, kind of between fishing game and firehouse.

968
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:51,080
There's already kind of asphaltish pavement under the tracks on that side.

969
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,440
It's not an enormous distance.

970
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:54,720
It could maybe just be asphalt.

971
01:05:54,720 --> 01:06:01,780
I'm just not sure if it's why I'm going to look at that, but it may not be like a compliance sidewalk, but I'm going to pay back.

972
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,940
Why? I mean, there is sidewalk, I'm going to have a size so why would you?

973
01:06:05,020 --> 01:06:08,860
So that I know came up last game concerns about like kids walking from fishing game,

974
01:06:09,540 --> 01:06:14,900
and then they don't have to cross their own, like the one side is parking along the bike house.

975
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:15,820
And that's something like that.

976
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,060
I mean, like in the grass area.

977
01:06:17,140 --> 01:06:18,880
There would be walking in the street.

978
01:06:19,260 --> 01:06:19,780
What's next?

979
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,080
What's next?

980
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,540
Yeah, there's a problem.

981
01:06:27,780 --> 01:06:28,340
Yeah, there's a problem.

982
01:06:28,420 --> 01:06:29,380
Yeah, there's a problem.

983
01:06:29,380 --> 01:06:29,480
Yeah, there's a problem.

984
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:30,880
But just not really.

985
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:31,800
Can't not this happen.

986
01:06:33,140 --> 01:06:33,500
Control.

987
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,140
But do you know what I'd be talking about?

988
01:06:35,660 --> 01:06:35,860
Yeah.

989
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:36,200
The other one.

990
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,260
The parking space is just that once the power is

991
01:06:40,260 --> 01:06:42,620
a project goes up, we're going to lose a lot of parking spaces.

992
01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:46,180
So I don't think we want to be eliminating parking spaces downtown.

993
01:06:46,940 --> 01:06:48,480
Yeah, I was just thinking about it.

994
01:06:48,980 --> 01:06:49,640
You're right.

995
01:06:49,860 --> 01:06:50,960
It might cause a wrap-up.

996
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,480
People like, oh, I can really get down to the table.

997
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,360
I don't like to be very like, but I think that's what it looks like.

998
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,420
Which is what Susan, Susan's coming this way.

999
01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,400
I'm looking into that.

1000
01:06:59,940 --> 01:07:03,580
I was thinking more about to make that turn into the garot,

1001
01:07:03,660 --> 01:07:06,000
and because coming out, the garot is much more visible.

1002
01:07:06,420 --> 01:07:09,260
Because they're not aging through and looking at the house,

1003
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:10,120
because

1004
01:07:12,490 --> 01:07:14,330
I didn't record myself.

1005
01:07:14,530 --> 01:07:16,050
But I shout to you very much.

1006
01:07:17,970 --> 01:07:22,630
Mr. Lawson, do you have on the partial terrorist concepts?

1007
01:07:23,210 --> 01:07:26,350
What's the square footage of that area?

1008
01:07:27,690 --> 01:07:29,750
It looks like it's about six by ten.

1009
01:07:30,970 --> 01:07:34,550
Do you have a sense of some one of the ballpark on the mezzanine?

1010
01:07:34,570 --> 01:07:38,950
We know private terraces that are interior kind of how big they are.

1011
01:07:54,190 --> 01:07:59,730
And the reason for not going all the way to the edge of that area is because it's close to the train truck, is that?

1012
01:07:59,730 --> 01:08:00,910
Yes, it was a concern.

1013
01:08:01,790 --> 01:08:07,570
by applicant that, you know, there might be some things that might be thrown or those different things in that location.

1014
01:08:08,110 --> 01:08:11,110
So we wanted to make sure that that was pulled back from the dream.

1015
01:08:14,110 --> 01:08:16,310
So whether it be a wall or something separating.

1016
01:08:17,070 --> 01:08:23,770
There will be a pair of it, well, that reporting to inches, that is required by the link of code for ball protection.

1017
01:08:24,110 --> 01:08:31,710
So there will be something there that comes up to that reporting to each part, that's shown on the elevations, and you will get a seed concept.

1018
01:08:31,710 --> 01:08:39,930
I think you just fall down so I can see the area that's shown in the front of the white, which is proof.

1019
01:08:41,690 --> 01:08:44,010
I think you just had last time it's basically just white.

1020
01:08:44,170 --> 01:08:46,630
It's the same material as the top of the roof itself.

1021
01:08:47,190 --> 01:08:47,390
Yes.

1022
01:08:47,490 --> 01:08:53,210
Or would be held stone or those kinds of things that are common to be used on roof tops in those locations?

1023
01:08:55,250 --> 01:08:58,630
I don't know if there's any consideration for a surface that's maybe slightly more attractive,

1024
01:08:58,810 --> 01:09:00,290
if every had to be looking at an all the time.

1025
01:09:00,930 --> 01:09:08,070
We can do as we can do a pebble-roof area there, that can do a little rather nice and

1026
01:09:08,070 --> 01:09:09,150
increasingly maintained.

1027
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,580
Last week, because I wasn't here, but I wanted to give other folks the opportunity to ask

1028
01:09:18,580 --> 01:09:21,180
any questions on what's presented to mind.

1029
01:09:25,450 --> 01:09:26,290
Yeah, I did the first.

1030
01:09:26,930 --> 01:09:28,710
Are you going to ask about the rear facade?

1031
01:09:30,250 --> 01:09:30,990
Oh, yes.

1032
01:09:32,670 --> 01:09:33,870
It's not really a question.

1033
01:09:34,090 --> 01:09:34,810
It's more an opinion.

1034
01:09:35,050 --> 01:09:36,950
If you want to go to that, Mr. Lawson.

1035
01:09:37,370 --> 01:09:45,930
Um, I think the fake windows are worse, is my opinion, um, it feels like with the middle

1036
01:09:45,930 --> 01:09:50,150
different color that might be enough, combined with vegetation.

1037
01:09:50,850 --> 01:09:59,970
I want to reduce, um, I think that by just breaking down, um, having the, the kind of dark, light, dark light.

1038
01:10:01,780 --> 01:10:08,420
And it's enough that it's not like stripes. It's anything more than that it would be. It would feel too, too, too, too.

1039
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:16,300
I don't think I agree. But action, that's the process. I'm talking about the rear.

1040
01:10:16,420 --> 01:10:17,100
I got it also.

1041
01:10:19,380 --> 01:10:21,480
Yeah, no one's going to see me.

1042
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:23,400
Mr. Harris, we were talking about the United Wayside.

1043
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:23,920
Yes.

1044
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:35,520
So what we can do is a resolution of ions, we can remove these kinds of areas, and that would just be one consistent color on either side, but we'll obtain a darker color in the middle.

1045
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:36,120
Okay.

1046
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,520
Unless anybody feels differently.

1047
01:10:39,940 --> 01:10:41,060
What do you want us to go to the other?

1048
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:41,420
Yeah.

1049
01:10:41,700 --> 01:10:48,240
So the rare is it possible to do the same kind of variation inside and on that side.

1050
01:10:50,460 --> 01:10:50,700
Oh, okay.

1051
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:51,360
Great.

1052
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:56,640
So that you have bricks just so that you don't have them and notness.

1053
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:02,400
Didn't we talk about pro pulling that darker break along the bottom so that was right

1054
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:02,720
time?

1055
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:03,740
Yes, just something.

1056
01:11:03,860 --> 01:11:04,660
Yeah, just something.

1057
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:07,400
So that there's a consistency of that dark break.

1058
01:11:07,460 --> 01:11:13,760
You're saying time to take that dark break, that would be great.

1059
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:20,420
So just so that up here, we want the red break, yeah, we can extend it here instead of the

1060
01:11:20,420 --> 01:11:21,860
color-baby share, whatever that is.

1061
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,880
And that would extend all the way down and then, yes.

1062
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:31,980
I would prefer to keep it all the same because I think that if you've done what like a light color brick in the center

1063
01:11:31,980 --> 01:11:34,060
I think that feels like so yeah

1064
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:41,160
What we what you're saying is is that just to change the color of this being red brick instead of the the the

1065
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:41,840
See Bayes

1066
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:43,480
Is that a fair?

1067
01:11:44,020 --> 01:11:45,380
Yeah, that's a much better look

1068
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,500
If you're right

1069
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,640
And even then the balance creates at the top here what is the same

1070
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:21,760
That's what we're just changing

1071
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:25,720
stuff.

1072
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:27,240
Just what I make sure that we're wrong.

1073
01:12:27,260 --> 01:12:28,480
Yeah, and that's fun.

1074
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,940
Because what I was thinking more was changing the siding

1075
01:12:30,940 --> 01:12:32,540
on the apartment level.

1076
01:12:32,780 --> 01:12:35,840
But I think this is a better thing.

1077
01:12:35,860 --> 01:12:36,900
I just want to make it kind

1078
01:12:42,690 --> 01:12:43,850
of a little bit

1079
01:12:43,850 --> 01:12:47,490
neary about a board telling you to change colors.

1080
01:12:47,950 --> 01:12:49,510
Do you at least vet that

1081
01:12:51,650 --> 01:12:52,090
this could not have

1082
01:12:52,090 --> 01:12:53,850
not have a model with a whole red.

1083
01:12:54,230 --> 01:12:56,910
I think might not be the best thing.

1084
01:12:57,050 --> 01:12:58,350
I'm not a narcotap, I'm a millionaire.

1085
01:12:59,290 --> 01:13:01,390
So all one colors could for me,

1086
01:13:01,510 --> 01:13:02,270
but it may look silly.

1087
01:13:03,290 --> 01:13:08,370
In my professional opinion, looking at these different things, yes, it will feel a little bit more

1088
01:13:08,370 --> 01:13:14,450
monolithic, but we do only have one story. So I think I'm comfortable with the design aspects here

1089
01:13:14,450 --> 01:13:20,730
that changing it to maroon because we have them the lapsiding above, that brings in that tan component.

1090
01:13:21,310 --> 01:13:26,290
They still will not feel monolithic. I think it handles some of the concerns that some of the other

1091
01:13:26,290 --> 01:13:32,170
So, from an architectural opinion, I do not see that as a detriment to the overall design.

1092
01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:32,930
I don't know if you can.

1093
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,040
It's good, it's good.

1094
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:40,840
It's good to say that.

1095
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,760
I'm always talking about less manipulation.

1096
01:13:43,660 --> 01:13:44,840
I don't know if you can do that.

1097
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:45,860
Yeah.

1098
01:13:46,420 --> 01:13:48,040
For what it's good, I like that.

1099
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:57,010
That's why a lot of the times.

1100
01:13:57,330 --> 01:13:59,090
And we're happy to work with the board with the reason

1101
01:13:59,090 --> 01:14:01,590
that our contextual design, like this,

1102
01:14:01,830 --> 01:14:04,370
doesn't usually come under the board's part because it's so subjective.

1103
01:14:05,670 --> 01:14:08,750
But if that's a consensus, we're happy to work with the board on.

1104
01:14:08,750 --> 01:14:09,890
It's not making that change.

1105
01:14:11,890 --> 01:14:13,210
I'm not a bit of a super cool fellow.

1106
01:14:14,110 --> 01:14:14,770
I'm a good couple of people.

1107
01:14:14,770 --> 01:14:14,950
It's not a bad one.

1108
01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:18,250
I'm a good one.

1109
01:14:27,130 --> 01:14:28,130
I'm a good one.

1110
01:14:28,510 --> 01:14:29,010
I'm a good one.

1111
01:14:29,950 --> 01:14:30,330
I'm a good one.

1112
01:14:30,350 --> 01:14:31,190
I'm a good one too.

1113
01:14:31,470 --> 01:14:33,750
I like to do a little bit of one that everyone else in.

1114
01:14:42,130 --> 01:14:43,130
The last thing to do.

1115
01:14:43,690 --> 01:14:44,790
You touched about it a bit.

1116
01:14:45,110 --> 01:14:48,110
Last time, but I know we had a member of our PMW for the Asian

1117
01:14:48,110 --> 01:14:52,530
year, you just speak to degree the Whisture or able to incorporate

1118
01:14:52,530 --> 01:14:53,490
their pockets.

1119
01:14:53,810 --> 01:14:55,850
You're still fat the East and the East and the East and the East.

1120
01:14:55,850 --> 01:14:59,970
So like we committed to doing the easing.

1121
01:16:18,230 --> 01:16:19,650
I'm in terms of the landscape.

1122
01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:53,320
I'm the guest of the request to consider lower and you overall

1123
01:17:03,530 --> 01:17:05,850
understand some of the specifics on the

1124
01:17:11,900 --> 01:17:15,140
arc of the ground. I'm in, you know, psych, what about can you see

1125
01:17:20,580 --> 01:17:21,460
that we're not doing that?

1126
01:17:21,460 --> 01:17:22,260
If

1127
01:17:42,030 --> 01:17:48,650
private terrorists, there will be a railing around that private terrorists that will come up to about 36 to 42 inches.

1128
01:17:50,170 --> 01:17:55,050
The condensers that are located adjacent to that are 42 inches or lower.

1129
01:17:55,850 --> 01:17:58,730
So we do believe that you will be able to see those areas.

1130
01:17:59,190 --> 01:18:01,830
We can screen them as much as possible from the private terrorists.

1131
01:18:02,470 --> 01:18:07,270
But most likely because you don't want to have a six foot high fence or something like that,

1132
01:18:07,270 --> 01:18:09,810
you will be able to see them adjacent to your private terrorists.

1133
01:18:10,430 --> 01:18:14,710
And I guess it's not really, not really a different than sitting on a new debt next year,

1134
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:17,950
commonsor, essentially, in terms of sound also.

1135
01:18:18,750 --> 01:18:22,490
That's exactly right, but one of the things that I will say is that we have spread those

1136
01:18:22,490 --> 01:18:26,630
condensers out, and that works also for the logistics of the building.

1137
01:18:26,950 --> 01:18:28,810
You want to make sure that those runs are not as long.

1138
01:18:29,290 --> 01:18:33,450
So we're not looking at a very large amount of condensers in one single place.

1139
01:18:33,970 --> 01:18:38,890
And by large, I would mean 20 or so or something like that, that might, you know, you would

1140
01:18:38,890 --> 01:18:40,590
your home when they come on.

1141
01:18:40,990 --> 01:18:44,050
We don't think these would act just like your single family home

1142
01:18:44,050 --> 01:18:46,210
if you have one of these kind of condensers.

1143
01:18:46,670 --> 01:18:47,890
It's a low home.

1144
01:18:50,470 --> 01:18:52,810
OK, we still think that that's an amenity for these

1145
01:18:52,810 --> 01:18:54,090
for these units at the message.

1146
01:18:58,830 --> 01:19:01,330
Is there a generator proposed with a building?

1147
01:19:02,530 --> 01:19:04,490
Currently, no, there is no generator needed

1148
01:19:04,490 --> 01:19:05,470
for this building to be built.

1149
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,200
On sunny days, sound continuation.

1150
01:19:18,380 --> 01:19:19,940
You tested about it to the walls.

1151
01:19:20,340 --> 01:19:24,740
Did you, as your engineer, your voice expert, whoever

1152
01:19:24,740 --> 01:19:28,980
It is also with different vibrations from the train tracks.

1153
01:19:29,480 --> 01:19:32,560
They did a holistic review of this,

1154
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,180
and are proposing the construction condition

1155
01:19:36,180 --> 01:19:40,120
that may be utilizing within our building permit documents.

1156
01:19:40,860 --> 01:19:42,920
So they did look at all of those different items.

1157
01:19:43,580 --> 01:19:44,720
It benefits us

1158
01:19:46,860 --> 01:19:49,840
to make sure that there's no sound to doation.

1159
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:56,470
Hello, about 50 feet from the tracks.

1160
01:19:57,070 --> 01:19:58,810
And my name is Mary Almondo.

1161
01:19:58,810 --> 01:19:59,910
Check on the glasses sometime.

1162
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:19,580
The doors, so you have found last time that there are a static only, just a big fine, are the windows in the door or a glass, but the actual windows, and then clear, you won't be able to tell that there are windows too.

1163
01:20:19,580 --> 01:20:25,900
in space, I guess? Correct. So those windows made you view windows that open up into this

1164
01:20:25,900 --> 01:20:32,560
the areas of the open to above spaces, but they're not needed. So that's why we say that

1165
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:37,820
they are just access because you don't need them to be in like air qualifications or any of those

1166
01:20:37,820 --> 01:20:45,340
different things. But it would be nice in the top-lessing unit that you have a window at that location

1167
01:20:45,340 --> 01:20:46,600
where we make sense.

1168
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:47,600
That's good.

1169
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,540
I just want to do a boy like white or something.

1170
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:50,100
Of course.

1171
01:20:51,260 --> 01:20:54,300
What's the material of color of the garage door, itself?

1172
01:20:55,260 --> 01:20:59,900
Currently, we're thinking that it is matching the gas and metal,

1173
01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:02,680
so it would be that gray color charcoal color.

1174
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:04,140
Let me have it in other

1175
01:21:06,890 --> 01:21:07,150
room.

1176
01:21:09,290 --> 01:21:11,070
I think this is the last question.

1177
01:21:11,170 --> 01:21:13,730
I was kind of just curious about white overall

1178
01:21:13,730 --> 01:21:16,770
for the amenity space, which is your facing.

1179
01:21:18,030 --> 01:21:20,090
and also just the units themselves.

1180
01:21:20,890 --> 01:21:22,890
I think I was looking at the four plans,

1181
01:21:23,550 --> 01:21:25,390
and I'm not sure that they're 100% correct.

1182
01:21:27,170 --> 01:21:31,890
The last four plans, there's the two bedroom,

1183
01:21:33,230 --> 01:21:33,890
four in the winter,

1184
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:42,740
it's 10.

1185
01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:47,010
These are example

1186
01:21:49,890 --> 01:21:50,870
of a matter of several.

1187
01:21:51,190 --> 01:21:52,490
These are example units.

1188
01:21:53,030 --> 01:21:54,810
It's just on that particular unit,

1189
01:21:54,910 --> 01:21:57,130
which I think is the only, okay.

1190
01:21:57,330 --> 01:22:00,170
I guess it's the portable 945 square

1191
01:22:00,170 --> 01:22:04,930
But if it's on the corner of that, it's not the one that's supposed to be a train track.

1192
01:22:05,170 --> 01:22:05,410
Correct.

1193
01:22:06,030 --> 01:22:08,630
Because that one's only going to have windows on one track.

1194
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:15,250
But if you notice on that, we have sufficient amount of, like, it's, I think, 30-30-3D.

1195
01:22:15,550 --> 01:22:19,410
We know all that faces where it's the default housing.

1196
01:22:19,850 --> 01:22:22,950
Project two get three rooms.

1197
01:22:23,310 --> 01:22:26,470
So you're fed room, you're living room, and you're fed room.

1198
01:22:27,150 --> 01:22:27,490
All right.

1199
01:22:27,730 --> 01:22:27,950
Exactly.

1200
01:22:27,950 --> 01:22:36,090
And then just in terms of having looked at lighting on the roof amenities space as well as some of the interior

1201
01:22:36,090 --> 01:22:41,370
private areas was just to see if they're going to be lit sufficiently during the day.

1202
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:48,530
Yeah, I mean the building is not that large in terms of only being two stories above that old space.

1203
01:22:49,230 --> 01:22:54,670
So you will even though you have shadow being cast from the building into that space,

1204
01:22:54,670 --> 01:22:57,670
It's not like there's a six story building that you're going to create a came in the fact.

1205
01:22:58,110 --> 01:23:01,270
And that's something that we looked at when we created that courtyard space.

1206
01:23:02,050 --> 01:23:06,110
You don't want to make, you want to make sure that the height of the building is oriented towards

1207
01:23:06,110 --> 01:23:09,730
the amount of width of the courtyard. To make sure you don't have that came in effect.

1208
01:23:10,130 --> 01:23:14,050
And we did look into that as we were designed in the building to make sure that you did get that

1209
01:23:14,050 --> 01:23:19,590
a bit like into that space. Now, you're not going to get full sun in different areas,

1210
01:23:19,710 --> 01:23:24,590
especially during the winter months. But we do think that it's sufficient to get ambient

1211
01:23:24,590 --> 01:23:27,710
might get to those areas of each of those units.

1212
01:23:31,190 --> 01:23:33,230
I was a chance here, there's been a few questions.

1213
01:23:33,370 --> 01:23:35,250
Anyone else from the board or professionals?

1214
01:23:36,350 --> 01:23:37,290
Questions on architecture?

1215
01:23:38,030 --> 01:23:41,810
I have a question on the roof and the height of the wing.

1216
01:23:43,130 --> 01:23:45,830
When you did your selection of the hip-roof style,

1217
01:23:46,050 --> 01:23:50,350
you were able to use the middle roof height to

1218
01:23:53,390 --> 01:23:53,550
get

1219
01:23:53,550 --> 01:23:54,690
pick up the buildings.

1220
01:23:58,290 --> 01:24:02,530
What's the difference between that and adding instead of having

1221
01:24:02,530 --> 01:24:13,490
If you had a setback with war, how much higher would the building have been, and was that not an option or did you look at that?

1222
01:24:13,810 --> 01:24:24,780
So there were many options gone through during the settlement process of this project, including having a four story on this building.

1223
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:31,180
And it was the determination of the council and during that settlement agreement that a

1224
01:24:31,180 --> 01:24:34,980
three-story building allowing for a messaging was appropriate.

1225
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,960
And that three-story reading was accomplished by having those hip and cable roofs

1226
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,740
to hide what was happening in that visiting space.

1227
01:24:43,300 --> 01:24:48,940
If you take a look at the overall height, if you go from the actual grade to the overall height

1228
01:24:48,940 --> 01:24:51,900
of the building of a very top of those roof structures,

1229
01:24:52,660 --> 01:24:56,040
The building, if it was a four-story building, would not be much different.

1230
01:24:56,620 --> 01:24:59,980
But because this is a three-story building with a mezzanine and that...

1231
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:07,640
Through structure hides that top floor, it does feel more residential, it feels more in line with a lot of the other buildings that are within the burrow.

1232
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:12,320
So that was a lot of the back and forth that was occurring during the settlement agreement.

1233
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:22,560
Okay, understood. The burrow does have a lot of power at the side building, flat roofs, and we do have a new one with a setback floor.

1234
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,180
So it was for myself, how does it work?

1235
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,240
I wasn't familiar with what happened with the set of heroes.

1236
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:32,040
Those were all options that were on the table that, you know,

1237
01:25:32,380 --> 01:25:35,080
of this eventually became the settlement that occurred.

1238
01:25:35,980 --> 01:25:37,420
Right. And to me, you look at the building.

1239
01:25:38,260 --> 01:25:41,840
It has a high-up of horse story building in the end, anyway.

1240
01:25:42,740 --> 01:25:43,400
So, what happened?

1241
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:44,140
I was ready.

1242
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,220
My testimony is going to be that it's a three story plus a minute.

1243
01:25:47,460 --> 01:25:51,620
So, I don't disagree quite, but I think this is what we were.

1244
01:25:51,620 --> 01:25:54,880
I'll get back on the set of one agreement.

1245
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,400
Any other questions from board members before we go to the public?

1246
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,760
On this way, there's questions for the architect, sir.

1247
01:26:13,950 --> 01:26:23,450
I'm Jack Perrita, 39 Wooden Road, and also Chairman of the Historic Preservation Commission for the Burrow.

1248
01:26:23,690 --> 01:26:25,570
Just a few items.

1249
01:26:26,350 --> 01:26:26,990
Madam Chair.

1250
01:26:27,170 --> 01:26:28,190
I'm sorry to ask this, I'm sorry.

1251
01:26:28,910 --> 01:26:30,150
Can we just take a look at two minutes?

1252
01:26:30,150 --> 01:26:32,350
That's a great thing.

1253
01:26:32,490 --> 01:26:33,870
Sorry, I'm sorry.

1254
01:26:34,050 --> 01:26:34,470
Sorry.

1255
01:26:34,810 --> 01:26:34,930
I'm sorry.

1256
01:26:34,930 --> 01:26:35,770
Hold that thought.

1257
01:26:37,250 --> 01:26:38,150
Thank you.

1258
01:27:10,110 --> 01:27:10,290
Yeah.

1259
01:27:10,750 --> 01:27:10,990
Yeah.

1260
01:27:10,990 --> 01:27:11,350
You're not.

1261
01:27:11,690 --> 01:27:12,010
I'm not.

1262
01:27:13,150 --> 01:27:13,370
I'm not.

1263
01:27:13,630 --> 01:27:15,470
I'm not.

1264
01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:16,810
You're not.

1265
01:27:17,710 --> 01:27:18,370
I'm not.

1266
01:27:18,370 --> 01:27:18,530
I'm not.

1267
01:27:19,230 --> 01:27:20,630
It's a lovely one.

1268
01:27:20,770 --> 01:27:21,750
It's a lovely one.

1269
01:27:22,590 --> 01:27:23,290
I'm not.

1270
01:27:23,610 --> 01:27:24,270
I do.

1271
01:27:24,410 --> 01:27:24,710
Somewhere.

1272
01:27:42,190 --> 01:27:48,990
Yeah, I was one of the things that I had to make sure that they didn't want us to get caught, but they didn't want us to get caught.

1273
01:28:53,220 --> 01:28:57,640
So that's what I'm going to do.

1274
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:04,760
So that's

1275
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:13,300
what

1276
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:17,390
I'm going to do.

1277
01:29:17,390 --> 01:29:21,830
That's what I'm going to do.

1278
01:31:36,660 --> 01:31:45,060
One of the things we talked about was that our preservation commission meeting and we had some concerns about what was the use of standing seam.

1279
01:31:45,820 --> 01:31:51,800
roofing on the building. We didn't feel as a as a as a commission. We didn't feel like that was

1280
01:31:52,500 --> 01:31:53,460
kind of an appropriate

1281
01:31:54,340 --> 01:31:55,460
or contextual

1282
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,840
treatment to the building.

1283
01:31:59,580 --> 01:32:02,780
We asked that you consider not doing

1284
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:08,780
standing seam. It doesn't look like that's been considered or

1285
01:32:09,480 --> 01:32:13,080
revised at this point. So we did consider it

1286
01:32:15,230 --> 01:32:17,390
the way back and forth on that and

1287
01:32:17,390 --> 01:32:24,110
Ultimately, we made the decision that we thought that this was a better solution with the standing seam.

1288
01:32:24,190 --> 01:32:29,410
Metal work, we thought that it was a added architectural,

1289
01:32:31,930 --> 01:32:34,530
more architectural elements at the corners

1290
01:32:34,530 --> 01:32:40,470
and broke down the briefline for extensively, rather than just doing shingle in all different locations.

1291
01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:49,250
So we did take out into consideration in my previous testimony, I did elaborate that we thought

1292
01:32:49,250 --> 01:32:54,050
that this was the best solution for the building in terms of what we obtained was put

1293
01:32:54,050 --> 01:32:54,550
in the writing.

1294
01:32:55,030 --> 01:33:00,270
But we were then asking the board to write an information whether they agreed that the

1295
01:33:00,270 --> 01:33:03,030
same sentence seen the roof was the better solution.

1296
01:33:04,570 --> 01:33:14,510
It's asking that there was no comment back from the board that they disagreed with our interpretation and are what to keep this answer.

1297
01:33:14,770 --> 01:33:30,690
Okay, I'll just voice as a representative of the Preservation Commission, which is tasked with helping to determine applications and review applications for buildings that are going to reside in our historic district,

1298
01:33:30,690 --> 01:33:33,150
whether or not they kind of meet the standards,

1299
01:33:34,310 --> 01:33:35,670
but look at the design guidelines

1300
01:33:35,670 --> 01:33:37,690
that are appropriate for the world.

1301
01:33:38,550 --> 01:33:40,670
So that was one of our considerations.

1302
01:33:42,470 --> 01:33:44,750
Next item was, you've mentioned it,

1303
01:33:45,070 --> 01:33:45,950
you've designed lighting,

1304
01:33:47,830 --> 01:33:51,970
but I haven't seen a rendering of any sort

1305
01:33:51,970 --> 01:33:54,510
that describes what that exterior lighting looks like,

1306
01:33:54,650 --> 01:33:58,410
maybe you have a nighttime shot here.

1307
01:33:58,410 --> 01:33:58,990
So

1308
01:34:26,860 --> 01:34:28,100
as an exhibit that was added,

1309
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,200
the record that dictated that we were representing three different

1310
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:49,020
fixtures, two that were penned, essentially, likes that would be located along the face of the building going towards the parking lot, as well as a quarter of the building.

1311
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:56,100
And then, uplighting, we thought that that was a great suggestion by the HBC to have uplighting half the corners of the building on the burp pears,

1312
01:34:56,480 --> 01:34:59,760
and making sure that those were tilted towards the building since it didn't shine.

1313
01:34:59,760 --> 01:34:59,960
Let's do it.

1314
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:13,100
No issues with anything that you've described, those pictures don't offend me in any way.

1315
01:35:13,380 --> 01:35:29,980
And we just good to understand from a nighttime shot, what does the exterior lighting look like?

1316
01:35:29,980 --> 01:35:33,960
without seeing any kind of exhibit that displays it.

1317
01:35:36,660 --> 01:35:39,200
And I will also see that I don't like the fake windows

1318
01:35:39,780 --> 01:35:43,720
and the elevations facing the tracks.

1319
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:45,460
And that's definitely not.

1320
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,240
It's a lot of the plus and one quick follow-up.

1321
01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:53,200
Have you had any other projects where you've used the shingle

1322
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:57,920
to write next to the metal scene where you've been just trying to

1323
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,480
get a sense of how that goes together?

1324
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,860
We have used the standing C metal root as an accent.

1325
01:36:05,480 --> 01:36:06,620
Thank you very much.

1326
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,100
We have used that as an accent.

1327
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:12,180
I can't specifically tell you where we have.

1328
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,060
It doesn't come to mind very quickly.

1329
01:36:14,980 --> 01:36:19,320
But I know that we have used that as an accent where in other locations of that same building.

1330
01:36:19,780 --> 01:36:23,700
We've then used a shingle-sided for a similar condition that we have.

1331
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:28,980
We do think that this breaks down the building extensively and provides a hierarchy of the root

1332
01:36:28,980 --> 01:36:31,300
To make sure that the saddening scene medals have the corners.

1333
01:36:31,780 --> 01:36:33,720
And in those areas where we pop out the building.

1334
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,540
And that's how we're accenting on that group.

1335
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,660
We thought that it was a good, a great condition

1336
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,020
that really broke down to scale above the group.

1337
01:36:46,180 --> 01:36:47,480
Or questions from the public?

1338
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:52,700
One more question.

1339
01:36:53,100 --> 01:36:55,800
I'm going to can use choir of Viwe, you just said you had,

1340
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:56,620
I flipped the group.

1341
01:36:56,780 --> 01:36:59,060
Is all standing sitting sitting sitting sitting

1342
01:36:59,060 --> 01:36:59,740
in certain areas?

1343
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:01,340
It's only standing sitting in certain areas.

1344
01:37:01,500 --> 01:37:02,980
We kind of see it here.

1345
01:37:04,460 --> 01:37:05,060
The protection.

1346
01:37:05,900 --> 01:37:06,160
Sorry.

1347
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:13,320
A15 of the original submission, the area where we have just essentially that hit roof that kind of extends

1348
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:20,580
sense all the way around the building is a shingles roofing material, and then at the corner

1349
01:37:20,580 --> 01:37:25,640
as well as anywhere we have, we have like a bump out, we're accessing that way that standing

1350
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:26,660
scene metal material.

1351
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,420
It looks like it's the same color, but it's probably gone.

1352
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:35,820
But it's probably going to have more significant contrast.

1353
01:37:36,500 --> 01:37:42,000
We had presented materials before that showed what the metal was and what the

1354
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,320
single color was and we thought that they were complementary together.

1355
01:37:45,900 --> 01:37:48,590
Yes, we thought that the single was that's how the material was.

1356
01:37:49,340 --> 01:37:49,860
Or did you?

1357
01:37:49,940 --> 01:37:51,960
I believe that I did bring a big shingles.

1358
01:37:59,740 --> 01:38:02,300
We did present that and they were complementary.

1359
01:38:03,740 --> 01:38:07,980
not to be labored at the point, but in an engineer, I don't see certain things.

1360
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,890
What's the issue with the...

1361
01:38:12,890 --> 01:38:16,570
Because I've started issue with using standing scene versus Schinger.

1362
01:38:17,370 --> 01:38:20,410
What's trying to figure out what the objection is from this.

1363
01:38:22,620 --> 01:38:28,080
I guess what I can say is that the conversation that we have with HVC was more about

1364
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:35,900
that they thought that the standing scene model was not appropriate in the sort nature of the furrow sound tower.

1365
01:38:35,900 --> 01:38:42,560
But we thought that provided for a nice accent on this building that elevated that look.

1366
01:38:42,820 --> 01:38:44,380
It's a more expensive condition.

1367
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,980
So if we were to go to a single site and that's actually a less expensive condition for the developer.

1368
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:54,360
But the developer is committed to creating a high level architecture here and thought that this was a cook grid.

1369
01:38:54,580 --> 01:38:59,380
So there's no other examples of staying in the room in the barrel, necessarily.

1370
01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:03,300
I don't think that there are any that comes in the room.

1371
01:39:03,300 --> 01:39:08,860
on in some of the buildings with a man's sort of roof, they have other tile, right, or

1372
01:39:08,860 --> 01:39:09,280
slain.

1373
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:10,640
So,

1374
01:39:13,620 --> 01:39:18,180
there was a series of different ones, so this is a single roof on the Chattanova savings

1375
01:39:18,180 --> 01:39:24,960
and trust building, and then you have a more Mediterranean style that's on the tile here,

1376
01:39:25,180 --> 01:39:27,340
which is something that we did not want to go towards.

1377
01:39:27,340 --> 01:39:35,180
They're single, you know, on the jeweler's building here, on the library, they're single as well.

1378
01:39:36,220 --> 01:39:42,320
So we've got to use the metal seam route more as a back side piece to access that corner and to elevate the design.

1379
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:45,940
Like it would be a lot of shingle if you went all single.

1380
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:48,300
It's a big plant.

1381
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,240
I guess my only concern is how they go together.

1382
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:53,760
So it's an accessible.

1383
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:59,960
And we agree, and that's why we made sure that they were complementary and really the tones of those web

1384
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:06,840
The great chiecle tile and the great vettel panel really worked together.

1385
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,740
Anybody else? What's your comment?

1386
01:40:17,580 --> 01:40:18,700
We can go to the point.

1387
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:21,260
Michael can just stay if you have questions.

1388
01:40:21,900 --> 01:40:23,800
Thank you.

1389
01:40:23,820 --> 01:40:24,180
Harold.

1390
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:25,420
All right.

1391
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:28,360
Then our final witnesses are our professional planner.

1392
01:40:51,940 --> 01:40:52,940
We may have an idea.

1393
01:40:52,940 --> 01:40:53,600
That was fun.

1394
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:05,800
Playing this,

1395
01:41:08,290 --> 01:41:21,070
the shingle was exhibit A5, which is a darker tone shingle that matches the renderings that we have provided, and then A4 was the metal roofing material, which is a darker.

1396
01:41:21,430 --> 01:41:24,790
That is very compatible we thought with the video rushing.

1397
01:41:25,970 --> 01:41:26,730
Of course it is.

1398
01:42:02,750 --> 01:42:09,410
So was a slate considered, and all the other materials similar to that?

1399
01:42:09,410 --> 01:42:17,650
We did look it's like, unfortunately, that was not an option that we were willing to, to advance the further bit.

1400
01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:18,550
Just looking at

1401
01:42:21,620 --> 01:42:21,700
that.

1402
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:22,040
Councillor.

1403
01:42:22,620 --> 01:42:23,480
Thank you.

1404
01:42:23,660 --> 01:42:24,140
Thank you.

1405
01:42:24,260 --> 01:42:24,340
Thank you.

1406
01:42:24,340 --> 01:42:24,540
Thank you.

1407
01:42:24,540 --> 01:42:24,720
Thank you.

1408
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:25,600
Thank you.

1409
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:26,020
Thank you.

1410
01:42:26,020 --> 01:42:26,720
Good evening, sir.

1411
01:42:26,860 --> 01:42:28,220
I wanted to administer your role, please.

1412
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:32,580
You swear that the testimony and any activity, excuse me.

1413
01:42:32,820 --> 01:42:34,540
Any evidence or exempt you offered the board.

1414
01:42:34,620 --> 01:42:35,800
This hearing would be the truth.

1415
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:36,940
I don't think about the truth.

1416
01:42:36,940 --> 01:42:38,580
I do it.

1417
01:42:38,700 --> 01:42:42,720
For our record, please give us your full name, spelling the last name, and your business

1418
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:43,480
affiliation.

1419
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:44,580
Please.

1420
01:42:44,580 --> 01:42:52,280
John, Tikina, Ties, and Thomas, AI, Kays, and Kelly, I, and isn't Nicholas, I'm a principal

1421
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:57,860
of all things planning and development at 900 Main Street in Belmore, New Jersey.

1422
01:42:58,360 --> 01:42:58,820
Thank you.

1423
01:42:59,500 --> 01:42:59,820
Thank you.

1424
01:42:59,980 --> 01:43:00,140
Thank you.

1425
01:43:00,140 --> 01:43:00,380
Thank you.

1426
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,940
Thank you.

1427
01:43:03,940 --> 01:43:07,280
Hi, I'm a licensed player in the state of New Jersey.

1428
01:43:07,780 --> 01:43:10,980
I have been like a piece of my studies at Rutgers University in 1992.

1429
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:17,800
I've spent the last 33 years doing this, testifying for planning and zoning boards around

1430
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:18,900
the state and across the country.

1431
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,140
I'm half out and it's just like this.

1432
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:27,200
Additionally, early in my career, on the first five years or so, I was the planner of record

1433
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:32,480
for the National Register of Historic Districts in Ocean Grove and Planefield, New Jersey.

1434
01:43:32,480 --> 01:43:42,080
And I was the author of the land development ordinances and historic preservation ordinances in both national register communities.

1435
01:43:42,480 --> 01:43:48,420
I've appeared before more than 210 boards around the state, and my license is current and good standing.

1436
01:43:48,900 --> 01:43:49,900
All right, well the board is up.

1437
01:43:50,060 --> 01:43:50,440
It's good.

1438
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:51,140
Okay.

1439
01:43:51,820 --> 01:43:57,900
So John, if you could just before we get started some foundation items, you visited the site in the surrounding area.

1440
01:43:58,540 --> 01:43:58,560
Yes.

1441
01:43:59,020 --> 01:43:59,320
Okay.

1442
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:00,600
You've also reviewed the plans.

1443
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:01,340
Yes.

1444
01:44:01,340 --> 01:44:10,260
Okay, and you've had a chance to review the redevelopment plan and any applicable items as it relates to the housing element of fair share plan as it relates to this project.

1445
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,220
Yes, the adopted ordinance and the settlement agreements.

1446
01:44:13,220 --> 01:44:21,980
Okay, if you could just speak to a conformance with that plan and also speak to the one design layer that we have in connection with the application.

1447
01:44:22,820 --> 01:44:32,260
So, this was a project that resulted from the fourth-round challenge in settlement process.

1448
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:35,680
The borough entered a settlement agreement with the developer.

1449
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:40,080
And part of that agreement was the adoption of the B4AH district.

1450
01:44:40,620 --> 01:44:44,680
In the downtown, a specifically provided for the 29 units that are proposed,

1451
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,560
specifically provided for three stories and 42 feet,

1452
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:55,100
to the midpoint of the roof. Provided for the height measured from a specific point on a property line

1453
01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:59,980
along South Pacific Avenue, specifically provided for exclusions from-

1454
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:12,920
On that height, for mechanical things and rooftop equipment. This also provided for a appropriate parking ratio of 1.5 spaces per unit, inclusive of any electric vehicle credit.

1455
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:18,700
The ordinance further provided for maximum lock coverage and building coverage at 100%.

1456
01:45:18,700 --> 01:45:26,380
provided for yard buffer as a zero feet for garage oil with a 24 feet standard parking

1457
01:45:26,380 --> 01:45:34,800
9 by 18 compact parking unit by 16 provided for six bicycle spaces being required and required

1458
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:42,800
the specific streets gate improvements we've talked about on South Pacific and along the post office

1459
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:51,220
parking lot and then finally provided for a lead silver level of design but did not require

1460
01:45:51,220 --> 01:45:56,840
us to spend the quarter of my dollars to go get the plaque this took on the wall. Most importantly,

1461
01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:03,560
it provided for 15% inclusion or housing development including a $63,000 payment made to the

1462
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:12,500
affordable housing trust fund for the fracturing unit. Specifically provided for the affordable

1463
01:46:12,500 --> 01:46:17,520
to two-bedroom units, one which is low-income, one which is moderate income, and one

1464
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:22,520
three-bedroom unit that is moderate income, that further provided for building sizes that are

1465
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:32,400
consistent with the uniform housing affordability controls, better known as UAC, and you have the

1466
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:38,340
requirements also to talk about things such as materials for the building, materials for the units,

1467
01:46:39,020 --> 01:46:40,860
where the units can be located, et cetera.

1468
01:46:41,620 --> 01:46:43,540
And I believe the board is already certain correctly

1469
01:46:43,540 --> 01:46:47,440
that the building is compliance with the UAC requirements.

1470
01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:50,560
Well, the setbacks, et cetera, are all being met.

1471
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:54,960
The buildings on the property, which is a good thing.

1472
01:46:55,340 --> 01:46:57,180
Parking is provided, actually, a little bit extra

1473
01:46:57,180 --> 01:46:59,880
parking is provided, so I think it would be appropriate

1474
01:47:00,540 --> 01:47:04,240
to, as we said, to assign some spaces for the units.

1475
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:10,600
and then assign some spaces for assigned some spaces for visitors.

1476
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:17,860
Ironically, 900 main street, my office is a building that my family is pleased to build.

1477
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:23,500
It's actually a 30 unit apartment building in downtown Belmore.

1478
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:33,600
We have 45 parking spaces, so 1.5 per unit, and I'm happy to report that we have 39 residents and 36 cars.

1479
01:47:34,100 --> 01:47:40,740
There are every day, so the 1.5 is a number that actually works and works very well.

1480
01:47:40,940 --> 01:47:46,860
So, sorry, John, the European special opinion the African has complied with all the redevelopment

1481
01:47:46,860 --> 01:47:49,520
plan requirements as well as the housing plan requirements.

1482
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:50,720
Yes, that is correct.

1483
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:55,200
All right, and then can you just be to the one design waiver that we have as relates to the lighting?

1484
01:47:55,600 --> 01:48:02,320
Certainly, so we do require one design waiver from the maximum permitted average lighting level,

1485
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:04,200
of one foot calendar required.

1486
01:48:04,820 --> 01:48:09,180
We're providing 2.8, as a factor, as Mr. Blue testified

1487
01:48:09,180 --> 01:48:12,600
of the lighting fixture matching the borough fixture.

1488
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:17,520
And also the fact that it is somewhat of a public parking lot,

1489
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:19,700
and we think that having that parking,

1490
01:48:19,980 --> 01:48:22,460
having that parking lot lit, the way we have

1491
01:48:22,460 --> 01:48:24,280
is an appropriate lighting design.

1492
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:27,780
This is a design exception in your ordinance,

1493
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:31,720
as you know, standard for granting exception,

1494
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:33,540
It's been a little different for your variants.

1495
01:48:34,180 --> 01:48:36,400
There's three findings for the board.

1496
01:48:36,540 --> 01:48:39,920
First of all, that the request is within the board

1497
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:42,220
site plan review powers.

1498
01:48:42,540 --> 01:48:44,180
Secondly, that the request is reasonable.

1499
01:48:45,060 --> 01:48:47,660
And third, the little enforcement would be in practical

1500
01:48:47,660 --> 01:48:48,820
or somewhat of a hardship.

1501
01:48:49,340 --> 01:48:51,600
Again, this exception is sought again

1502
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:53,760
to have a little extra light there.

1503
01:48:54,740 --> 01:48:59,080
That is not excessive to 0.8 is not a high number,

1504
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,060
certainly not a high number for a parking lot.

1505
01:49:01,060 --> 01:49:09,300
typical retail parking lots are to define it five and above, so 2.8 is certainly not overly

1506
01:49:09,300 --> 01:49:13,820
lit, if you will. And it is a very small area, so it's hard to kind of spread everything out

1507
01:49:13,820 --> 01:49:21,320
enough to get the average down to one. And again, we're kind of limited by our fixture to be able

1508
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:26,740
to match that fixture, kind of throws off a lot of light, which makes sense for a fixture that is in

1509
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:32,980
really in the public right away. And in that public parking lot. So we do think that

1510
01:49:32,980 --> 01:49:37,880
it is appropriate. And we don't believe that having the additional light, I mean negative

1511
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:43,420
impact on our neighbors. Again, it's a public parking lot on ourselves. And we don't think

1512
01:49:43,420 --> 01:49:45,300
it's going to have a negative impact on your plan.

1513
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:50,140
All right, so your opinion meets the standard under section 51 of the municipal line. Yes, it does.

1514
01:49:50,540 --> 01:49:52,460
All right, that's all I have. I'm not in church.

1515
01:49:53,220 --> 01:49:59,260
Thank you. Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Any questions from the public for the plan?

1516
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:02,920
Thank you. Thank you.

1517
01:50:05,220 --> 01:50:13,480
Thank you. Yeah, that would conclude our case in chief. I mean, do you want us to public comment before I sum up?

1518
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:20,800
Okay, so that. Thank you. And now at this time, if any members of the public have any comments that they would like to share, this is your opportunity.

1519
01:50:28,660 --> 01:50:40,660
Thank the Board. But it's time, thank the Board of HBC members of the public. We've had a, I know, we've only been from this Board twice, but there's been a lot of meetings to work on this project over.

1520
01:50:40,660 --> 01:50:43,340
or maybe two years, or maybe even longer.

1521
01:50:44,060 --> 01:50:45,820
So the floor professionals and the bar professionals

1522
01:50:45,820 --> 01:50:47,860
have been very helpful in this process.

1523
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:51,460
So through it all, that's why we have a conforming application

1524
01:50:51,460 --> 01:50:53,620
that complies with the redevelopment plan,

1525
01:50:53,740 --> 01:50:56,680
complies with housing plan, it complies with settlement agreement.

1526
01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,360
This is the exception of that one minor waiver

1527
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:00,720
for the lighting.

1528
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:03,780
I wrote down, I know there were things

1529
01:51:03,780 --> 01:51:05,260
that we incorporated into the plan,

1530
01:51:05,480 --> 01:51:06,740
and the exhibits between the first meeting

1531
01:51:06,740 --> 01:51:08,980
in the second meeting, but the whole point

1532
01:51:08,980 --> 01:51:13,820
the site find processes, even though we're permitted to use, even though we comply with all these standards,

1533
01:51:14,420 --> 01:51:21,800
is to see if there's any other reasonable conditions or other factors that we can make the project improve as a result of the site find process.

1534
01:51:22,440 --> 01:51:28,200
So the process really worked perfectly. So if you look at the conditions that we've just talked about this evening,

1535
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:34,580
and I'm sure Mr. Walker has some of them written down too, but I have the landscape screening around the transformer,

1536
01:51:34,580 --> 01:51:41,620
possibly removing the power if the utility company permits it, more landscaping on the burden

1537
01:51:41,620 --> 01:51:48,300
county in a way, side if that's achievable, doing a traffic control plan with your police

1538
01:51:48,300 --> 01:51:55,420
department during construction, providing the stop sign and the stop bar by the access point

1539
01:51:55,420 --> 01:52:01,220
in addition to the items. We already testified to, as a result of the discussions we've had,

1540
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:09,620
identifying the visitor spaces versus the resident spaces from the parking area, providing

1541
01:52:09,620 --> 01:52:13,160
that, I think, what Michael was saying, based on what the chair was indicating, that

1542
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:19,520
table still on the roof area, that some of the residents might look down upon removing the

1543
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:20,060
fake windows.

1544
01:52:20,340 --> 01:52:24,020
I think that was the consensus of everybody on the back of the building.

1545
01:52:24,020 --> 01:52:30,440
I think we also had getting extending the red brick around those

1546
01:52:30,440 --> 01:52:34,980
phasasas as we felt about it. So I just probably not see it over 10

1547
01:52:34,980 --> 01:52:38,840
conditions that we discussed due to the process and that's exactly what it's

1548
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:43,840
what the process is for. So I think we put on a case that demonstrates that we

1549
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:47,160
men are the standard for cycline approval. We have the standard for the one

1550
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:51,040
design labor. We obviously agree to comply with your remaining board

1551
01:52:51,040 --> 01:53:02,660
professional comments. So with that, Madam Chair, members of the board, I would respectfully request that the board grant the application has presented for preliminary and final cyclone with the one designed way for them to be requested.

1552
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:03,920
So thank you very much.

1553
01:53:04,440 --> 01:53:04,780
Thank you.

1554
01:53:04,980 --> 01:53:07,660
So did you have any other

1555
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:11,100
side of the work standards?

1556
01:53:11,860 --> 01:53:21,300
I'd like to suggest as we had the practice of the board involved all of the relevant and two meetings. First, I want to thank Council for outlining additional conditions.

1557
01:53:21,300 --> 01:53:26,300
I've been trying to take notes and think I was on page four, so I think you had about

1558
01:53:26,300 --> 01:53:31,800
eight, I had three or eight miles, but I think our practice of discussing conditions

1559
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:33,600
before we close for board discussions.

1560
01:53:34,180 --> 01:53:37,300
So we have a chance to interact with the app that's certainly would be helpful if the board

1561
01:53:37,300 --> 01:53:38,340
would allow that now.

1562
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:46,200
Yeah, the one thing that you didn't mention was the setting back in the garage, the exit.

1563
01:53:46,860 --> 01:53:49,520
Oh, because we already put that on the client side, I can see that side's fine.

1564
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:52,860
I said anything that we already had those on the updated exhibit.

1565
01:53:53,660 --> 01:53:56,600
The only thing we've got to have is on the place, even around the transformer.

1566
01:53:56,820 --> 01:54:00,080
I know that would where I was focused, but anywhere I'm on the sidewall,

1567
01:54:00,220 --> 01:54:05,920
I'm just not having the lack of a better term, critical things that will be sharp.

1568
01:54:06,380 --> 01:54:06,580
Yeah.

1569
01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:09,300
I think there were other Mollies shown in such a way.

1570
01:54:09,300 --> 01:54:09,980
That's fine.

1571
01:54:10,060 --> 01:54:10,300
Okay.

1572
01:54:10,900 --> 01:54:11,360
That's fine.

1573
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:12,160
Thank you.

1574
01:54:12,380 --> 01:54:14,380
I think we missed wheel stops.

1575
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:14,920
I didn't know.

1576
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:18,380
We only captured wheel stops on being...

1577
01:54:18,380 --> 01:54:19,260
not the rights.

1578
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:23,380
Okay, excuse me, I thought, I actually wrote wheel stop in Circle D and I did that because

1579
01:54:23,380 --> 01:54:24,500
I don't remember what it was for.

1580
01:54:24,940 --> 01:54:25,760
I had a record, so.

1581
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:27,540
I thought it was not.

1582
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:28,460
No stop still.

1583
01:54:28,540 --> 01:54:32,480
I thought it would be a repetitive, a defensive was that the devolence eventually worked as

1584
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:35,560
you just outlined, I won't repeat that.

1585
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:37,220
But there already know it.

1586
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:41,880
And they will have for a number of conditions to understand, to follow it.

1587
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:47,560
And one of them is that the site plan is proved in accordance with the plans of menace

1588
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:52,620
to the plants, statements during hearing, testimony in the experts, and subsequent amendments

1589
01:54:52,620 --> 01:54:53,740
required by the conditions.

1590
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:54,960
So I think we've got it.

1591
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:59,800
The pretty thorough, shall we say, I'm a perception that covers some, covers those issues.

1592
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:07,920
And so, it's because I'm myself here tonight with the set of four pages, 26. Anyhow, I'll go through it. Some of them are standard.

1593
01:55:10,180 --> 01:55:29,480
Just outline the first condition. The application is proof, and there's to be compliant with importance with deterrence conditions and requirements in the summer of the room and any amendments there too. The application is to obtain any all of the governmental equipment of criminals, utility, and other service providers.

1594
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:36,260
for the development and to be provided for the redeeming approval of the born in

1595
01:55:36,260 --> 01:55:42,040
generic. That would include the utility-winserv letters. There's going to be

1596
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:45,140
requirement that developers agree even though there's a settlement agreement

1597
01:55:45,140 --> 01:55:49,980
or redevelopment plan here. That'll be worth specific on the affordable set,

1598
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:53,500
the time and designation, etc, which we always have in our conclusion

1599
01:55:53,500 --> 01:55:58,100
evidence. The applicant has agreed that it stipulated to comply with the

1600
01:55:58,100 --> 01:56:00,820
in terms of conditions and requirements of the professional reviews.

1601
01:56:02,300 --> 01:56:05,180
We've talked about the parking wheel stops.

1602
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:09,360
The parking spaces are to be designated and allocated

1603
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,060
to the affordable housing tenants.

1604
01:56:11,780 --> 01:56:14,360
And the ones that are not so allocated or to be labeled

1605
01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:16,400
would signage for visitor parking.

1606
01:56:17,060 --> 01:56:19,120
Yeah, I think it was just to all the tenant, all the tenants

1607
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:20,740
that would be designed.

1608
01:56:21,260 --> 01:56:24,840
But yes, a sign that anything that's not would be marked

1609
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:26,420
is it a part of the community?

1610
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:27,380
Thank you.

1611
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:29,020
This question is that these are rentals.

1612
01:56:29,260 --> 01:56:30,720
Is there an additional fee for parking?

1613
01:56:30,860 --> 01:56:31,880
As I included in the rent.

1614
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:33,340
I can find that out.

1615
01:56:33,460 --> 01:56:34,220
I'm just going to want to say something.

1616
01:56:34,740 --> 01:56:35,580
Wait a second before.

1617
01:56:40,700 --> 01:56:43,760
He said it depends, but it could be either way.

1618
01:56:44,020 --> 01:56:44,700
I think so.

1619
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:46,140
Could you stipulate that the

1620
01:56:58,680 --> 01:56:58,920
information?

1621
01:56:59,140 --> 01:56:59,680
Not usually.

1622
01:56:59,960 --> 01:57:01,780
That would usually be covered in the dual vision.

1623
01:57:02,020 --> 01:57:02,240
Okay.

1624
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:04,520
We can negotiate that with the borrower as part of the developers.

1625
01:57:04,720 --> 01:57:06,340
I think we have done another part.

1626
01:57:06,700 --> 01:57:06,960
Yeah.

1627
01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:10,580
Well, we can discuss it with the affordable housing council

1628
01:57:10,580 --> 01:57:11,220
and the developers.

1629
01:57:12,100 --> 01:57:18,560
Just for the benefit of your client, I know you know this was to do all you'll negotiate it, but that's a standard provision

1630
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:24,100
Most of the communities in fact are all unfamiliar with as far as the inclusion are you answer the affordable units?

1631
01:57:25,860 --> 01:57:30,980
Just so that we're not being created for this necessarily required, but it's common.

1632
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:37,300
The applicant is to present an application to the burrow sign committee for the candidate signed.

1633
01:57:40,820 --> 01:57:44,760
The applicant is to provide bonding and we have a bonding clause that you're familiar with.

1634
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:46,060
But yeah, that's not an estimate.

1635
01:57:47,420 --> 01:57:50,460
The applicant is to provide, before again, a broad merger.

1636
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:52,900
The applicant is to provide the approval

1637
01:57:52,900 --> 01:57:54,800
and the jersey's transit for the encouragement.

1638
01:58:00,610 --> 01:58:02,530
Yeah, as the five team have a civil engineer,

1639
01:58:02,750 --> 01:58:07,470
whatever approvals are assigned also required by the rail company.

1640
01:58:07,910 --> 01:58:10,470
The applicant is to provide a phasing plan.

1641
01:58:10,930 --> 01:58:13,010
You've talked about this and was very helpful

1642
01:58:13,010 --> 01:58:16,010
when I was going to suggest it that the applicant is going

1643
01:58:16,010 --> 01:58:21,930
provide a traffic control plan and measures to be undertaken

1644
01:58:21,930 --> 01:58:25,630
at the expense of the outcome as approved by the Burl Police Department in the Burl

1645
01:58:25,630 --> 01:58:31,930
issue here. We've talked about the stop bar and the stop base. We've talked about the,

1646
01:58:31,930 --> 01:58:37,570
and I used to turn truckated this app with the warning area. That's correct. The

1647
01:58:37,570 --> 01:58:43,370
truncated domes. Yeah, that's correct. Truncated domes, domes, domes, domes.

1648
01:58:43,370 --> 01:58:46,890
and warning on the site plan H2.

1649
01:58:47,490 --> 01:58:51,110
The applicant is to provide it as bill plan prior to CO.

1650
01:58:51,970 --> 01:58:54,410
We talked about the stop sign and the stop bar.

1651
01:58:55,050 --> 01:58:57,610
We talked about the landscape, the amended landscape,

1652
01:58:57,610 --> 01:59:00,370
the plans required for the reviewing approval

1653
01:59:00,370 --> 01:59:02,990
to come to the things like shielding the compressor

1654
01:59:02,990 --> 01:59:04,490
and the other areas of property.

1655
01:59:05,110 --> 01:59:06,650
We covered the ballers as determined

1656
01:59:06,650 --> 01:59:08,450
if required by the utility provider.

1657
01:59:09,370 --> 01:59:11,590
We talked about the garage of our,

1658
01:59:11,590 --> 01:59:20,870
We talked about the formula cell in the lights, the wheel stops we've already covered, the facing plan will be required.

1659
01:59:21,610 --> 01:59:25,270
Yeah, the Gorages just was just the lighting, the lighting structure.

1660
01:59:25,990 --> 01:59:29,750
Yeah, well, I'm assuming that when we get to draft the W might be helpful.

1661
01:59:30,130 --> 01:59:30,830
I know you will.

1662
01:59:31,890 --> 01:59:35,030
We talked about the facing plan.

1663
01:59:35,290 --> 01:59:37,110
We talked about the parking spaces.

1664
01:59:37,110 --> 01:59:37,870
I

1665
01:59:40,810 --> 01:59:46,170
think that about a coverage of the engineer or plan I want to add supplement to other.

1666
01:59:47,090 --> 01:59:47,430
I don't know.

1667
01:59:48,290 --> 01:59:48,930
You got it?

1668
01:59:50,110 --> 01:59:50,710
Can't you do it?

1669
01:59:51,550 --> 01:59:52,050
Okay.

1670
01:59:53,650 --> 01:59:55,410
And thanks again for your help on that.

1671
01:59:55,490 --> 01:59:59,730
To approach taking care as far as your advancement of certain conditions.

1672
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:05,820
So I'm not going to helpful in the press. I'm going to just want to inform about the fire.

1673
02:00:06,260 --> 02:00:10,320
I'm sorry about the suppression in the stand-plates.

1674
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:11,140
In the stir rules.

1675
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:15,600
I had something about the fire department in the E.G.M.S.

1676
02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:18,180
Excuse me, there was one thing in my script, but we are.

1677
02:00:19,860 --> 02:00:25,580
We're mentioning that there's a resolution review required by the,

1678
02:00:25,580 --> 02:00:26,580
you can play with the neighbors.

1679
02:00:26,740 --> 02:00:28,220
You can do it with fire in the MASH.

1680
02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:32,360
I don't know if the fire has a lot of comment.

1681
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:37,780
I just want to confirm that the leads to MASH is fire suppression and the also decline

1682
02:00:37,780 --> 02:00:39,460
of fire suppression in the standpoint.

1683
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:46,800
So instead of bringing back the witness, I have NFPA 13, okay, stand pipes and every stairwell.

1684
02:00:47,860 --> 02:00:50,740
And a fully sprinkled by the voice, the leads face.

1685
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:51,660
Yes.

1686
02:00:52,780 --> 02:00:54,280
But thanks for letting that conclusion do.

1687
02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:58,060
and through the benefits of the applicant, we've had that in our other multis, and we do

1688
02:00:58,060 --> 02:00:59,920
all that, so I appreciate the duration of that.

1689
02:01:00,340 --> 02:01:01,920
I get an included thank you.

1690
02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:16,780
For members of the public, we get to lift deliberations.

1691
02:01:20,180 --> 02:01:24,340
We often, for more significant applications, get the board out there in the deliberate,

1692
02:01:24,540 --> 02:01:25,180
while we vote.

1693
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:30,260
Anybody want to share any thoughts on this application, not required, but welcome to view

1694
02:01:30,260 --> 02:01:30,740
by.

1695
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:36,200
I'll just take thank you for your cooperation, Mr. Development,

1696
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:41,460
use on the offices and as if applications, but you still, it became a little bit of a

1697
02:01:41,460 --> 02:01:46,020
negotiation as the best pipeline usually is, so thank you. I think we helped make it better.

1698
02:01:47,460 --> 02:01:52,520
I will entertain a motion to vote on this, to approve this application, subject to the

1699
02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:56,940
condition as the memory of our needs to walk on. I want to entertain that motion.

1700
02:01:57,560 --> 02:01:57,560
So,

1701
02:02:35,370 --> 02:02:43,070
guys, and I vote for not at the last meeting, but we vote slightly at the end of the day,

1702
02:02:43,070 --> 02:02:45,010
Thank you all.

1703
02:02:46,270 --> 02:02:48,150
Nothing else on the agenda.

1704
02:02:48,430 --> 02:02:52,530
I'm going to start asking, and what do we have on it?

1705
02:02:59,730 --> 02:03:00,850
The second is 2026.

1706
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:15,780
And the most likely we have the approval of the solution for this.

1707
02:03:21,910 --> 02:03:22,390
Okay,

1708
02:03:25,430 --> 02:03:26,250
it's fine.

1709
02:03:27,310 --> 02:03:29,890
All assumed that our meeting got locked over seven days on.

1710
02:03:30,250 --> 02:03:30,930
It's definitely on.

1711
02:03:32,450 --> 02:03:32,710
So.

1712
02:03:35,860 --> 02:03:36,620
And we're going to turn it.

1713
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:49,500
We'll just

1714
02:04:38,980 --> 02:04:49,600
visit on the first floor, the first floor, the third time he's done us back and went to the second floor, please.

1715
02:04:50,340 --> 02:04:53,560
He's the only one who's there up in the middle.

1716
02:04:54,460 --> 02:04:58,620
He's no longer practicing and now he wants to go back to the residential.

1717
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:11,100
That is being reviewed right now, by the end of the year. So we may not have an application, actually. We will kind of not assure it if we, but we'll probably want to get this resolution done.

1718
02:05:11,500 --> 02:05:20,000
So we can always, I feel it happens in assuming any of that works for everybody too, considering the quality, if it's only a resolution. Resolution of the good nets.

1719
02:05:20,180 --> 02:05:23,640
Didn't, didn't we have a full site plan on that? With other site work on the property?

1720
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:29,820
It's not too long and it's something with the gentleman at the wall front and switching back and forth and we have a full-site plan

1721
02:05:31,020 --> 02:05:35,280
This time, we do not submit a site. No, I mean, let's go. Yeah, it's been a while

1722
02:05:40,180 --> 02:05:41,080
Yeah, there's three

1723
02:05:41,700 --> 02:05:43,820
Yeah, because it was supposed to improve the spot

1724
02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:52,920
Well, we didn't have safe plan and you didn't have there's a lot of labor

1725
02:05:54,260 --> 02:05:57,480
You have to have data survey and you don't have to say the same thing.

1726
02:05:59,370 --> 02:06:01,470
We'll leave it at that until he comes.

1727
02:06:02,230 --> 02:06:03,090
I'm just going to be adjourned.

1728
02:06:03,330 --> 02:06:04,870
You know, a couple of administrative items.

1729
02:06:05,850 --> 02:06:07,210
Just to remind you, during the meetings,

1730
02:06:07,670 --> 02:06:08,870
to try to remember all of my phone,

1731
02:06:09,330 --> 02:06:10,490
because I was quite an eye-washing,

1732
02:06:10,850 --> 02:06:11,850
because you weren't here.

1733
02:06:12,210 --> 02:06:12,990
You might stand on.

1734
02:06:13,210 --> 02:06:13,590
You don't have any.

1735
02:06:13,910 --> 02:06:14,370
I know.

1736
02:06:16,490 --> 02:06:17,370
I know.

1737
02:06:17,710 --> 02:06:20,370
And then the other thing is please do respond to Vanessa,

1738
02:06:20,730 --> 02:06:22,010
which you know is about the form,

1739
02:06:22,150 --> 02:06:24,090
because we don't want her to have to call.

1740
02:06:24,090 --> 02:06:27,930
and how do we need that question answered.

1741
02:06:28,710 --> 02:06:30,990
So, reminder, thank you all.

1742
02:06:31,450 --> 02:06:33,110
Motion for adjourned.

1743
02:06:33,630 --> 02:06:35,230
I'll see you.

1744
02:06:35,470 --> 02:06:36,190
Hall of favor.

1745
02:06:36,970 --> 02:06:37,270
All right.

1746
02:06:37,330 --> 02:06:37,730
Thank you.