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the minutes of this meeting. Alison, may I please have a roll call?
» Council members call here. >> Yes, here.
» Griffin >> here. Miy
» here. >> Olson
» here. >> We have administrator. Attorney
is by Zoom. Um, Director Portinsky, BJ Ber is by Zoom.
And Lieutenant Dexter. >> Okay. Uh, jumping right into it. We have
an workshop session on our Eagle Scout project carried from last month. Uh
Sigret Vindas is on Zoom. >> Yeah,
» this is for the concession stand snack chat rebank.
» Hello. >> Hi. How are you?
» Hi. Good, thank you. >> All right. Thanks for joining us. Um,
usually, uh, when we have a Eagle Scout project, uh, the potential Eagle Scout
takes us through the project itself, tells us a little bit about, um,
what they're doing with it, and then we ask, you know, sometimes there's some
questions from some council people that we uh, we ask at the end. Um, so that's
usually how we do it. Do you have something prepared to present us or
Um, I do have a slideshow that I had. I just need to pull it up. Sorry.
» Sorry. Is that going to show?
» She can share screen. Um, let's see. >> Um, do you guys have papers? Because I
think that I've been I've shared with different people. Um, I don't know if
you guys have any, but I >> think we had it last meeting though. I'm
not sure. It's in our packet now.
» Okay, we have I think we have a a binder here, which looks probably more
substantial than your um slideshow even is.
» You have one too? >> Yeah. Yeah. So, why don't you put this
down here between you two and then
» Okay. How about this? Why don't we start off while you while you're doing that?
Why don't you tell us a little bit in general what you're doing to the snack
shack and um give us a time frame.
We start there.
Oh, sorry. Can you hear me? >> Yes.
» Okay. Sorry about that. So, I was hoping to renovate the snack shack at Fairbin
Fields because um I have been a volunteer there for a long time. My mom
volunteered there all like as I was growing up. So, I got to see kind of and
I know the parts that work best and the things that don't work as well. So, I
was thinking there are different aspects. I don't know if you guys should
have pictures in the binder with you. >> Yeah.
» Um that depict different parts. So, one of them, the biggest part that I would
need the most approval on would be painting the floor. Um, the floor has
seen lots of wear and tear through the years and I was thinking that that could
be a good really big refresh for the whole space.
And besides that, it's more not necessarily maintenance, but kind of
smaller aspects of the space that just fixing those little bits could really
help with the overall like
how everything works together and how different volunteers can use the space.
So, one of them was there's a coffee station and for example underneath it's
a little bit untidy and I was thinking that maybe if we even just organizing
that small space could really help um sorry I'm not finding the words
but could really just help the volunteers when they're there and make
it run more smoothly. >> It would maximize the efficiency of the
operation while working there. said you said you were going to paint the floors.
Is that correct? >> Yes, there's a specific paint that
should also be in the binder somewhere. Um, a list of supplies that I would
need. I talked to a specialist and they said that the best paint for the type of
floor that it that it is would be the epoxy paint that is shown in the booklet
» with like the DPW. And I spoke with the DPW
» and they said that the best course of action would be to first paint remove
everything that's removable, which the one thing that can't be removed is the
sink and the refrigerator because the refrigerator is really heavy. So to move
it out of the doorway on its own is going to be very difficult. So, the plan
was paint everything around the refrigerator and then shift the
refrigerator over once the paint is dried and paint underneath.
» Is Nick here? >> Nick is here. Nick, come up for a
second. >> So, um she did meet with uh DPW
representatives and Nick um to go over the project ahead of time before
bringing it to the council and Nick can share uh some of the observations that
he had. Yeah, we we had met at the facility, took a look at the proposed
project, proposed improvements. Uh we definitely made some recommendations
about the type of paint and the type of flooring uh covering to use and uh you
know, we were in support of the the project. Um obviously there's some
details regarding logistics and scheduling and phasing and stuff, but uh
I think we can work through those with the applicant and uh and come to you
know the the appropriate action. what what type what type of support is needed
from DPW as far as the project goes? >> Um, I haven't seen the final proposal
yet, but uh I think it was basically just uh you know helping coordinate some
of the the the relocation of some of the stuff into maybe the garage and um that
was basically it. Um it wasn't it wasn't too much of a heavy lift for DPW.
» Great.
» Yeah. Um sacred. >> Yes. with this this um I love the way
you've organized the photos because you can it helps us identify sort of
stations and you've taken the time to really do that advanced planning to help
you make plans how to organize and how to tackle these sections understanding
your approach. >> Um I'm also I have used epoxy paint and
a restaurant renovation and it works very well and your plan is good and I'm
sure Mr. Kinski's already supported that. I would you say that most of these
other than the floor most of these other categories there's eight photos is it
mostly organization and hiding and >> well there's also um one of those
aspects would be building a first aid shelf. Um, I'm pretty sure that one of
the pictures shows it pretty clearly that in the corner near the entry
there's a fridge and that is where um the first aid usually just sits there
whether it's some of the ice packs that are usually there or just band-aids. And
that also happens to be the spot, one of the only like open areas where
volunteers can put their bags. So, the plan with that specific corner would be
to build a first aid shelf to be able to put the first aid items on and to also
attach hooks into the walls for volunteers to be able to have a
designated spot to put their bags or coats.
» Great.
» Um, might have one of them. Is there are there any costs to the burrow for this
project? >> No, because since this is an Eagle Scout
project, it will all be funded by the funding. Well, I will fund the project
by raising money. That's a part of the Eagle Scout project.
» Is there anything in the snack shack where like
um something used to be in service and it's broken down and it's being ripped
out and not replaced? Um,
no, I don't believe so. >> I think there was some um some tables
and some like appendages to the to the concession area that I guess we can
review at some point and see if they're still needed depending on how things are
organized. But uh generally speaking the the scope of work was to you know make
the make the space more safe uh more user friendly and uh the labor was going
to be provided by the scouts as part of their you know as part of the project as
well as the equipment and material. So it's it's really just the um uh the
scouts presentation as part of their project, the project management side of
the project and then ultimately fulfilling the execution as part of the
schedule and scope. >> I mean is there has there been any
objection to this project? Has any >> No, I do have a question. So it the
hooks on the shelf at cinder block I see. Is is is the DPW going to be there
to sort of help with the drilling into that because if you it's hard to patch
it if you do it wrong. Yeah, I'm not sure um the final layout, but uh we can
we can give some recommendations to the to the scout to make sure that they're
the appropriate height and using the appropriate, you know, anchor materials
so that it's it's not pulling away from the center block or make sure the
appropriate location makes sense. >> Yeah. Like not by growers.
» Yeah. And no electric or plumbing is being
» No, it's uh it's basically just uh I want to say cosmetics, but it's more
efficiency and operations type stuff. >> Sure.
» Just cigarette. Um I said this last time, but I know you weren't on, but I
appreciate all the organizational. I've worked in there a couple times and it
was definitely pretty disorganized. So I love what you're doing. The only thing I
ask is just that Nick does see the final plan before we move forward and
therefore yeah the big stuff. But well done. This was really thorough. So good
job. >> Is there a request for signage in there?
You know >> signage?
» Yeah. >> There should be in the booklet there
should be there's a specific page that should say
» that's signage for the items like first aid station. I need there's no there's
no information regarding Boral >> signals
if you're going to put up um signage just basically dedicating the Eagle
Scout project just connect with uh Burough Administrator York because
there's a standard there. >> Yeah, we I can coordinate that with you.
Just um they don't purchase any memorial signage um ahead of time. We can
coordinate that together. No, it looks like she found a problem and is offering
solutions that are simple and will make everyone's life easier. So, I'm all for
it. >> So, we have a motion.
» Motion to accept this plan to improve the Eagle Scout.
» Thank you, Nick. >> To improve. Thank you, Nick. Improve the
snack, the snack check. >> Second. All in favor?
» Anyone opposed? >> Congratulations.
» Congrats. >> Thank you. Thank you all.
Uh, next up we have a request to hold the annual color run on October 17th.
» It's going to be November 14th. >> It's now going to be on November 14th.
» It was mine. It's picked a long day. Picked up a long day. So,
» good. Is that a sat That's a Saturday. >> Yes. I love the color. I think it's
pretty fun. >> Great. I support it.
» Is it the same people that are running it again this year that did it last
year? Lisa by Tally is um has joined us by Zoom. She's handling it. She's taking
over. >> You have any questions? Ask for a
motion. >> She's Lisa.
» Hi. How are you all? >> How are you? I was getting ready to ask
for for a vote, but um thank you for putting this together and thank you to
the PTA. Uh great cause. Is there anything you want to add in before we
» uh No, the event will run similarly to uh years past. So, um nothing really
looking to change. We will have a couple vendors. I connected with Allison and DJ
about that. Um a couple local vendors, pliables and a um coffee truck that will
be stationed at the event and um donating a portion of their sales back
to the PTA. So, uh those vendors will be available. Otherwise, just similar to
what we've done in the past. It's just a fun run. Uh it's not a full 5K and a DJ
and just a fun family day. Are >> you doing all your advertising online?
» We are. Yes. I did I did wonder about signage. Um we haven't done it in the
past, but if it's a non-issue or if it's an easy enough thing to offer, we you
know, of course, we'd love to promote the event as well. But if you if you're
thinking about signage, um reach out to the broker, uh Allison. She could take
you through the process um to get to get it on agenda. I mean, it's not the uh
most difficult uh task, especially if you're looking for temporary signs for a
period of time. Um you know, but also if if you're going to advertise online,
that's great. And we can support you through the burrow in doing that.
» Yep. uh putting it on our um weekly >> very even weekly we uh we can put it in
the focus if you if you get it to us in time and we can put it on our social
media and the constant contact system. >> Oh, amazing. Thank you so much.
Wonderful. >> Just if you want to just email me that
information. My email is on the website. I'm the administrator. We can we can get
that up. >> Understood. Thank you so much.
Do >> I have a motion to
» motion to approve Colorado for 2026? >> Second.
» All in favor? I. >> Anyone opposed? All right. Thank you.
» Thank you all. Have a great evening. >> You too. Uh, next up we have Fair
Baseball as a banner request. Fairfield 4. Are you presenting?
» I really don't have anything. I was just standing here on board told me to come
by and see what happen. So, so tonight we're hearing on there was a request
made a few months ago to approve banners that are on Farad Field 4. Um,
you know, we we we've been in contact with Fairan Baseball uh on on a
uh another solution as well that we we offered to them. We haven't heard back
from them positive or negative on that. I think they asked for some more time,
but in the meantime, there was the ask to be put on the agenda. Um, so we're
not >> the banner up. We're not doing this, but
that So, [clears throat] this is obviously a very
long story that I don't think we need to go into detail on many months in the
making, but the signs that are up right there now on the outfield wall are the
signs that Ferry Baseball applied to put out permanent. Those are the those
that's what we would be discussing today. What do you mean permanently?
» In other words, um, >> I can direct my question to my
» for permanent sign placement of a banner that's already up.
» Sure. >> During baseball season
» and when what and >> on the on the basically what we're
asking for is them to be more visible because you can't see them right now.
They're all way on the outfield fence. >> We just said my question first. The
banner is up. >> Banners are up on the outfield.
» Baseball season ends. >> Baseball season's over. That's what I
thought. >> Well, actually, no. Well, we have fall.
So, fall starts in September. >> Okay.
» So, it kind of runs from say March till October, November.
» November. >> Yeah. Yeah. March till November.
» So, the banners that are up, you want permission to leave them there until
October, November. Is that we've >> Right. So right now we have a which is
separate from this issue but right now we have an agreement with you for only
one field to put our advertising banners to raise money for fairs and baseball in
the outfield. Okay. Certain amount. Um we have them out there now. We used to
have them for the last two and a half years right on the back stop of the same
field. We were asked to take them down this
year and move them to the outfield. Then we were asked to take them down from the
outfield until this issue was resolved and then
we're allowed to put them back up in the outfield again till this issue is
resolved further. So tonight I thought what was going to happen was the
original banners that we get are just allstar banners for our our all-star
teams that win specific um district championships, sectional
championships within the state of New Jersey.
» More than one banner. >> We have we have a few now. Well, I I
know the banners that you stack. >> There's three banners, but different
different accomplishments on each one per age group of of the last couple
years for our baseball teams. >> This is about three banners.
» This is three banners in total right now.
» But it could be moving forward more if they win something.
» If we keep winning, we we obviously get more banners. These banners are
» when we keep winning. >> When we keep winning,
» they're g these banners are given to us. We don't make them. They're given to us
as in by Little League of America. >> Exactly. So when we this is only when we
win little league tournaments. So at the end of every wreck season
» you form an all-star team and if your all-star team goes a certain distance
» you know you get a but only if you reach certain certain thresholds districts
sectionals states regionals and then on to Williamsport in Pennsylvania which is
happening right now. >> That's happening now. Right.
» Correct. So, you know, it's quite an accomplishment for our little town. But
those are the banners that we had right outside the dugout and they had the
names of the kids that were on the team. So,
» three of those, >> right?
» And you'd like permission to leave them up through fall ball, which
» during baseball season, they come down in the winter.
» I'm going to say November. Is that accurate? Yeah,
» it's good to be specific. >> Okay. Thank you, Mike.
» Are the kids names all fair? >> No. So, we we have um we're in a little
league with five towns because we don't have enough teams to make a little
league. If we did, we wouldn't have a little league. So, we have Rumson, Fair
Haven, um Shrewsbury, Red Bank, and Little
Silver. >> And do all the towns get a banner?
» If they win, but the Allstars, when Allstars comes about at the end of our
rec, they divide the town. So, it's Rumson and Fair Haven play in an
all-star team. Shbury, Red Bank, and Little Silver play in another one.
And then the kids play together from those towns on one all-star team and the
other team they call it two little two river league east and west
» and then they go from there. >> The sign that they give you has the
kids' names. >> They have the kids' names.
» Mike, do they mostly practice at Fair Haven? Are they practicing also at
Rumson? >> Both.
» They practice them. >> Does Rumson get one also or just
» They do. They just don't put them up. >> It's not that they're not allowed to,
it's that they just don't put them. >> Okay.
» They don't have a great spot for them. We have a nicer facility where people
kind of walk by. So >> So you're asking not to put the signs up
where they currently are. That was just sort of a I guess an agreement for the
time being, but you're asking to put them back where on the back stop.
» Well, well, >> but I think moving forward, I think this
is a bigger issue, right? Or the longer term solution or discussion that he's
hoping for because it was a temporary solution to have them moved and but in
the outfield, >> correct? So, we're looking to find out
if they win again, what's going to happen? Like what's the what what is our
plan moving forward? Like what's the >> Yeah. So, the tonight they told me to
come here because I had been involved in this from the beginning. I thought that
what Joe had explained to me which is the Joe Grogan who's the president of
Fair Haven Baseball now. He had said you were going to vote on tonight. I thought
the banners that we were given um our championship banner that we were given
from Little League, you either going to vote on those to accept them or not. And
if not, you had an iteration of your own that you were going to present and then
I was going to bring that back to Fair Haven and see what they want to do.
» So I I can talk on that. That's mainly correct except for the point of it's
hard for us to vote on something that wasn't really um accepted by Fair
Baseball, right? So they're not going to push or sign on you,
» right? So that that's what they were saying. I guess it was the initial vote
on the original signs. If that's a no, then they have to talk to that and then
talk to baseball. >> I wanted to put this on the agenda, but
we didn't hear back from Fairman baseball. Um, you know, I heard it was a
divided response to it. >> Oh, okay.
» So that's the feedback that we got. So I said, well, it's a divided response. I
made um it clear that I was going to put the original application which was for
the current signs on the agenda um for us to make a decision. Now listen, we
could extend the temporary signs. We can vote to enforce the
current ordinance which is they're not approved right now. We can approve for
the signs instead. We could take a few different turns on this issue. Um you
know the only everything you said I agree. The only question I had is I was
under the impression Rumson doesn't allow signs.
» They do not allow signs. >> Yeah. Rums does not allow signs.
» I don't think it's a matter of them just not putting it up. They don't allow
signs at all. Um just just for the uh for the discussion because
um you know we talked about the scout signage earlier tonight as well with
cigarette. Um I don't know Allison if you want to put it up on the screen. Can
you? So, we we thought this was a good
solution. We're willing um you know, obviously we need we would need approval
from everyone and we would need approval appro approval from Fairman Baseball on
the final design as well, but this we thought did a very good job celebrating
the team accomplishments. Um and that's what we saw it as a team
accomplishment and uh can I talk a little bit about the team? I want to be
clear sort of where I stand. So, thank you for volunteering and sharing
doing what you do for the kids. So, I love the idea of celebrating a team. Um,
I think back to my alma mater and I think about the championship the year
kind of that's it. Um, I don't love kids names. Um, for a couple of reasons. The
primary one is when you say it's an all-star team, there's kids who Romson
that means that some kids who didn't make the team and a Rumson kids name.
It's sort of I don't want to I don't want to cause a parent to
» which was the original complaint. >> That was the original complaint. Yeah.
So that that's where I'm going. Um it's obviously telling their kid, but I would
be I would be most comfortable with just like celebrate the team. I think that's
simplest to avoid all that noise. Um whether it's there or perceived or gets
to us or not. I think that's the cleanest um celebration team. That's
that's my I want to be totally open with you.
» Okay. >> I also one one other thing I I throw
which I was about to go to is um when there were signs existing for the scouts
that were up and we came up with the new design obviously we'd have to talk to
the finance committee and burough admin and CFO but the bureau was willing to
pick up the cost to replace those signs with the new version um just so it
wasn't an expense for fairs and baseball. um you know we can't do that
allowed I'll I'll write a check for for that myself
» replace it. >> Yeah. So I listen I I think this is
starting and uh Councilman Cole has brought up and I think it's something we
do need to visit a signed standard. I think this would be sort of a step in
the right direction and it would give the the kids because I heard that from
some of the parents that you know the kids would suffer. We give them the
opportunity to always come back and see that banner still on that outfield
fence. Um and we make it big enough obviously with writing like this because
you can see um if you go see you know Loop and all these you can see that
[clears throat] they write their names big and I think you would even admit
right now it's not doing justice for those banners on the outfield fence. You
can't really read what's out there. >> A design like this we think will
» Yeah. Like like I said again, it's really going to be something that the
board has to bring to the baseball parents. Again, they're the ones that
are going to decide this. I'm kind of just in between because I've been here
since day one dealing with it. >> Um
the only thing Well, so just one one thing you have to consider if you're if
you're talking about picking up the tab for this,
» it might be something you have to pay for an additional one every year.
» Yeah. >> So
you guys are pretty confident in your which I love.
» Well, this is this is the thing because it doesn't cost Fair Haven Baseball a
dime now. They give >> you understand
that inject. >> Well, can I can I just say one more
thing? So, this this one was put together for the for the I was under the
impression that one of the banners was a little bit more
» accomplishing away from what the other
» This is definitely the one we got the most push back. So, something that we
sort of discussed maybe for the second banner was the same sort of look, but it
would say, and I I don't know what the actual championship was for the other
two, but it would it would look like that and then instead of having its own
banner, it would say 2024 9U, you know, diamonds white or what
whatever it is. um 2023 and sort of like you see in the high school where if you
see short conference tournament champions 1984, 1987, 1989 um obviously
we'd have to find out from our sign vendor how we accomplish that but that
might be a way to do it where you're just adding
block lettering and quite truthfully I mean if someone wins the big one I'm I'm
sure um we'll find a way to get another >> Yeah. I mean, if you think that this is
something that could be an added to sign where you cuz we wouldn't want you guys
to remake a sign every year. And again, as long as as long as Fair Haven
Baseball and the the parents and the baseball parents are are okay with it
and then you guys can come to an agreement, that's what the the message
I'll relay. >> The only thing I'll say is the messaging
I got was these accomplishments were so extremely amazing.
» It's a big deal. >> I hear that.
» We didn't win one this year. >> Doesn't happen all of a sudden. you
know. So, I I don't think we're talking about an expense that's going to be so
great. And quite truthfully, like we paid for the scouts to replace them.
We're not paying for them going forward. That's a discussion I think we we'd have
to have. Yep. >> Okay. So, that's something that's got to
be >> um you you said there's three signs
» right now. Yeah. >> And uh what was for first year?
» 2024. >> So, it's 2023. I'm sorry. 23, 24, and
25. >> You have 23, 24, and 25. How long do you
normally uh keep put them up every year?
» We We put them up in March before the parade.
» No, I mean, how many years do you >> want them up?
» Would you want the signs up? >> I mean, if you again,
» okay, >> I've talked to Shane over in Rumson. He
told me something different than what Chris just told me. Now,
whatever. It is what it is. I can't speak for Rumson. That's what I've been
told. He's on the board with me at True River.
» So, True River Little League, I'm on the board with him. So, but I know that
Shrezberry has all their banners up. Little Silver does the same thing. Okay.
Red Bank would they don't have as many Crumbs in his whatever they are. But it
it's it's something that if you go to other baseball fields, they have these
banners that they all they put them up all along their fences all the time. I
don't know what the relationship with their town is and and what the rules
are. It's all different, right? Every town is different, but I mean, anybody
who's been in baseball and and >> can
» So's been in baseball, you can go to some of these facilities and you'll see
they have a different way of doing it. Some actually have very neat and tidy
placards when you walk into their municipal complex. So, it will swing,
you know, >> but they just have like stuff that's
just on one placer or you can just kind of take those little
» kind of like your your your names on your desk there. They come in and out.
They slide in, slide out. There's many options you can do.
» Can I ask you, you mentioned um that you want you would have to go back and talk
to the Fair Haven parents about the proposed change. I I'm just going to go
back to the board and tell them what we were talked about here and then they
would have to if you're taking a vote on the original science today. I don't know
if you're doing that but I have to basically report back to what your ideas
are. >> My question is do you consult other
Robson parents also because some of their kids are on that team right?
» They have their own banners. They have the same banners that our kids were.
they just don't put them up on their feet. So,
» so and and one thing I'd say is, you know,
I don't agree with personally I don't agree with R. I think that's too far for
the one side. I saw a Facebook post that came on my your feed or whatever it is
for Tin Falls yesterday. I guess they got some gray money. I want to find out
where that gray money came from, >> but to redo one of their fields. And in
the picture, they have similar signs like we do in the outfield fence. But if
you remember when you guys first came in, you asked for a certain amount. I
think we minimized the amount. If you asked for 24, we said, "Now we'll give
you 16." It was something like >> it was an agreement that we reuped. It
was 32 and you guys went down to >> we went down. Now Tinf Falls, you could
look at these and I'll try and find them and send them to you. Um, you look at
these posts, sign after sign after sign after sign. And personally, I thought
that's way too far on the other side. >> Yeah, I've seen it. I didn't feel
» I like how we're kind of balancing this and trying to find, you know, the right
aesthetic for our town. Recognize the kids without also inconveniencing
residents that are playing as well and might not feel the same way that, you
know, some other people do. I think this would be a a thoughtful solution.
Doesn't have to be exactly like that. That's I think why we asked for some
feedback from Fair Baseball as well. Um but that's that I that's kind of where I
stand. I I listen I have no problem personally um
if if the governing body wants to keep those temporary signs up until like the
next meeting when we get a little feedback that's fine. But I I don't see
the current signs as the long-term solution for the field. I just can I
just just one thing and I don't want to open up a canop because because I've
been doing this and started this whole science thing beginning. I just want
there are some inconsistencies in town that we the burough the the board would
just very much like to clear up. I'm sure Chris can probably speak to this
too. when we see agreements being made with like RFH with
interlocals, okay, and these are non- taxpaying people in our town and you
have a a a group of of board members in our town who are taxpayers who all the
baseball parents are taxpayers and we do the majority of the the majority I don't
want anybody to get mad as but say we do 50% of the work to maintain our own
fields Okay. And RFH can come in and they hang
banners. They hang pictures of the kids with
their names all over the tennis courts. And they can do seems like they can do
more to our tennis courts that they don't own because of an agreement that
was signed than we can do to our own baseball fields which we maintain. Pay a
ton of money for room. do whatever else you guys want to want us to want to call
it, we do it. >> So, I can address that. Okay. Um,
» so your baseball banners, whatever
approved, they were up for two and a half years. Tennis banners go up for two
or three weeks a year. Um, I would say that all of our taxpayers are paying
taxes into the RFA schools. We do have an interlocal agreement that gives them
the uh authority to put those up. Um as part of that agreement um they funded is
it half >> they they fund they fund half of the um
any of the improvements to the um tennis sports and they also do that 10 months
worth of maintenance to it. >> So I personally like I I thought of the
other side. >> So we do all those things too.
» Yeah. >> Yeah.
» All of them. >> Sure.
» So why should we not have the same rights?
» I hear what you're saying. Like I I hear what everyone's saying.
» That's the argument. That's that's one of the biggest sticking points of this.
» That's why I think there should be bigger conversation. I agree with the
interlocal. I also kind of go back to the sign standard. I feel like
» I think this is pretty and nice, but are we trying to just make everything
completely conforming and then but we are allowing like we're not going to
talk to them to RFH about the tennis signs. Like where where are we stopping?
Like I just I feel like we're really inconsistent. We're like picking on the
Eagle Scouts and we're picking on these guys. We're trying we're trying to be
consistent. And my answer where I was about to go was I was trying to think of
a single other sign in town that is brought in
and it becomes a permanent sign in our town. The only other one I could think
of was the baseball signs in the outfield with the advertisement signs.
We have obviously Derma Dreams comes in and Farmers Market comes in. They're
asking for signs for temporary amounts of time. This this this is the tennis
team puts up signs for a temporary amount of time. Um these signs are up
always. They're, you know, they're up on the fence. They're becoming a permanent
part of uh the beauty of our land and and to and by ordinance
» they are supposed to be approved. You know,
» I agree with the approving. I actually think that there's a solution here
because there's so much goodwill where everyone's trying
» there's definitely a solution >> fine.
» Yeah. >> And um
many times I've been in this position before and one of the typical responses
is to undertake a design guideline, >> you know, a revision of the ordinances
that allow certain things and then there's planners and designers that can
help you develop those guidelines. So it doesn't require a trip to council.
there's a manual and standards that set forth and can be administered by the
staff. I think a lot of us want to talk about doing that because we see the pain
point with the volunteers and our residents. We feel the pain point here.
I can identify with some of the things you're saying. I think all of us really
can. Um but we still have to think about the community as a whole. Um, and that's
and that's a lot to tackle on a one one night while we're here. So, we're sort
of reaching for solutions. >> No, 100%. I agree. I agree completely.
And listen, if this is this was finished and then I'm sorry,
» it's evidence that like our house is not totally in order because we're trying to
figure it out on the fly when there's an application. But I I I do know that at
least a bunch of us want to be able to talk about taking that step to sort of
get it figured out so that it doesn't require this complex trick of having
» I I agree. I agree. And listen, it I think there is a solution here. There's
there's not a demand. I mean, I I thought again you guys were just going
to vote on whether the original signs were even going to be considered. If
not, that was the plan. I had talked to Joe today. We got to go back and then
I'm sure you guys can come to some sort of an agreement. I'm sure something
» would love to hear from baseball like this because if it works for if it works
and it it's there through then it's all >> we don't we don't want to vote on this
and say no and then you walk away like they're not looking to celebrate what
was a really meaningful accomplishment. >> No, I think they knew that.
» That's why I brought it up tonight though.
» Yeah. No, no, they they knew that because Joe texted me that today that
what he said was they were going to vote on the original signs whether it was yes
or no. And then this was I hadn't seen this but they had mocked something up
which is fine. Listen to the reality is it's probably the baseball moms who are
going to have the most input on any of this stuff. That's 100%
» to hear from them. >> Yes. You have to think of the
conversation. >> Listen, you don't they're the ones that
stir the shift. Andrew knows it. I know it. Anybody who's coaches or does
anything on the board, they run everything from behind the scenes. Can I
ask you, are you are you looking just at Fair Haven 4? You're not looking at any
of the other >> That's it.
» You're just focusing on the four. >> Yeah, that's it. That's the only one we
even had an agreement to hang the the uh the fundraising manners on.
Do we have a um a to-do in front of us where we need to get through the
existing signs for some period of time? >> After we
remember we were arguing how long the period whether it was going to be three
years or one year. Do you remember what we settled?
» I want >> I just think it was to renew it every
year. >> Are you talking about the alphab?
So, this is it's a separate this is sort of like do we I think the idea tonight
is do we keep them up there until we have more of a discussion on this?
» That's that's up to the governing body. I
» will say yes. >> Say yes.
» They have to come down in October no matter we take them down. We have to
because they'll get destroyed in the winter. All of them.
» They all as I'm listening this I I was an athlete. I hope my kids to be
athletes and I know that seeing that banner how profound it is for a young
» uh child. So, this is my first time seeing this. I actually I do think it
looks great, but I know I definitely want to hear their perspectives from the
board. >> Um, but as I'm listening, I'm just
thinking of trying to find solutions. Uh, have you ever the Knights of
Columbus, would they hang those banners in the winter in there
» inside? >> Inside
» maybe. And maybe that could be a spot for those specific banners and then the
town could put this on the outfield. Just food for thought.
» Yeah, 100%. I never asked them about that, but maybe. Maybe.
» Would it would it be possible for us to approve those banners through this
October >> and then you can or the members of the
fairy baseball can come back to us and give us their opinion on this.
» But I I >> I would like to see I would like to give
you that. Yeah, they have a meeting tomorrow. So, I was just going to tell
them how this went before you just the one thing I want to
bring up that hasn't come up here >> because he brought up something
important which was basically precedent is making sure that we're consistent in
every decision that we make. So why I also think and council I I hear what
you're saying but also you want to be consistent
» because if we allow anyone to put up what they want wherever they want to put
it and someone puts up something else somewhere
else that maybe you you end up in a position that you don't want to be in as
a municipality. So I'm just bringing that up. Um, someone's going to make a
motion. I thought >> I'll make a motion that we allow the
signs to stand as they are this year until October and that we revisit the
signage in see what baseball thinks about our
proposed. Sorry. >> Yeah. You let me know and I'll report
back. I'll get this. I think Joe already has this anyway.
» You can take it. >> Yeah. and then um I'll let them know and
then they'll they'll have to get some people together
» just to just to uh well why don't we vote first? Um all in favor?
» I >> anyone
um as it stands now they're good till October. If we don't vote though on a
[clears throat] new sign or on the existing signs they're not good for
until there's another >> I'll let him know tomorrow that they
have to actually get something together. get in touch with you. I don't know if
they're going to want to do their own mockup, present it to you guys,
» whatever the bouncing of ideas is going to be back and forth.
» Absolutely. >> And then go by October.
» Uh yes. Okay. I I understand that completely.
» And also just on our end on the science standards like what are our next steps
to be able to start to put something in place because I just feel like we're
just going to and I said this last time like we're just going to keep getting
ourselves. >> That's a communications committee. What
committee is that? It's planning and design.
» Yeah. I mean, it falls on it falls under a couple different committees. So,
» yeah,
» but I but I think we could um I agree like we've talked about it
enough. Um >> um we could workshop it, but I would
suggest if it's okay, can we talk about it maybe offline? Yeah,
» we get sort of a process that's because I think we probably want a professional
here to take his photo so we can look at what it could the product could look
like. Okay,
» I just don't want it fall on the way. >> No, I think it's that okay.
» Yeah, but planning is prime. >> Mayor, can we just make one
clarification? Just got a text from recreation director. Just want one
clarification. So when we say October, we're going through October 31st or
October 1st just only because their season doesn't go through November 1st.
Just so it's clear. We >> When does it go through?
» Uh November 1st it goes through. So we putting the signs through October 31st.
» Do you need a new motion to extend it to November 1st?
» October. >> So through October October it doesn't
even because that we can take them down. >> Whether the baseball season is going to
continue for another week or day from there that would be in playoff times by
that time, right? We might not even be home for that. It
might be all the way. So, >> so we'll we'll we'll I'll make sure that
Joe knows they're coming down October 31st. No later.
» Thank you. Thank you. >> I don't know if I can add one more thing
about the Snapchat because I didn't know. Not that it's going to I just want
to >> uh put it on. We're going to be on
public comment on agenda items only after the next thing. Save for that.
» Oh, I got one more thing. I got one second.
» Yeah, just hang out. Okay. I got One more. All right. Thank you, Mike. Uh,
next up is Bsentennial Hall landscape plan.
» Welcome back. >> Are you
» Is the tripod in the >> Yeah, I'll grab it.
» Thank you.
Is that it?
Think that's good.
Yeah, >> good evening. Um, uh, I don't know how
many of you have seen this plan in different format. Maybe you have.
» Um, >> is this updated from the last session?
» So, this is the none of it would have been the same plan you've seen seen
previously. Right. Right. So um so obviously this work is being taken in
conjunction with the uh architectural improvements that the historic
association is engaged in organizing. And so um uh I was asked out of a
landscape architect to um as you to uh help with the uh the landscape
improvements and um and so this plant represents um uh basically my
collaboration with the uh association members. And um the overriding concept
here was basically to create something that would be compatible with the
neighborhood while at the same time respecting um this um uh fairly
significant piece of architecture even though architecturally it's not um you
know not the Vatican or St. Paul's Cathedral, but it um but it really
warrants u being preserved. And certainly from a landscape standpoint,
there are a lot of different strategies that we could pursue. Um but we we don't
want to turn it into a a residential landscape. Um um and um um and so the
plan does not attempt at to include any foundation plantings, whatnot. Um the
the idea basically being that um um that it needs to be cleaned up, some things
removed, some things um added, but um we would really like the building to
present itself to the street in a in a slightly more um almost like reverential
way. um uh uh obviously it's not a religious or not providing religious
services now but uh but it it has that aura about it and and so uh we wanted to
um to respect that and so the the landscape from the the front plane of
the building out to Cedar um Avenue um the idea um is to uh actually uh uh
transplant uh the two holly trees that are currently growing in front of the
building. So, you actually can't even see about a third of the building. Um,
and so those would be those would be transplanted to the northern property
line, which is to the left on on this plan. Um, and um, uh, obviously there
there also two large oak trees um, adjacent to the sidewalk that that would
be um, those obviously would be retained. And um the idea being to
essentially to simplify um the landscape and um and to do um to make uh gestures
that are appropriate for the for the building uh while also perhaps providing
for um this the uh the site to allow for other sorts of activities. So for
example at the the back right hand corner that what's proposed there is a a
small paved uh um terrace. there would be an all weather um surface and it
takes advantage of what is a bit of lost real estate um uh in that that far back
back corner um and um and actually pushing both the north and the south
along the north south property lines pushing the bed lines back because over
time the English ivy and whatnot has kind of crept into the the lawn. So, um
if there were, for example, at some point, um interest in erecting a a tent,
um you would have a big enough area to to allow um that that sort of um
activity to um to take place. Um and um uh there's also well, I guess is more
part of the architectural um uh plan, but the the trash receptacles will now
be sort of stored behind behind the building. there's a generator, small
generator that will also be behind um the building. Um and uh so this plan
does does add a a brick walkway which is an extension of the existing uh walks uh
to gain access. Um and um from a horicultural standpoint um um anything
that we would be or the majority of what we would be um adding um would be native
plant material and um and that would take so there different different ways
that would be manifest on the plan. Um one is again to be respectful to the
neighbors since we have obviously a commercial building to the north but
residences to the uh on the other property lines. Uh uh the plan would is
suggesting that we would be adding some evergreen trees around around the uh the
perimeter. Um and um and and in conjunction with that um other um
ornamental uh plants, but I almost had hesitate to
use that that word because um the idea would be to take advantage of the
there's a tree canopy there now. So there's a lot of shade which will
actually limit the pallet of plant material that can be used. And uh the
intention is not to create like an arboritum or whatever. It's really a
matter of of accentuating um the uh the existing landscape that's there which is
basically canopy trees. Um and um um and also dealing with the the topography uh
which both to the uh the north and the east on this plan uh uh is somewhat
precipitous if you're familiar with the site that the the topography does fall
rather quickly. um in in both the northerly and easterly direction. So um
so we'll have to deal with um or part of the landscape application here would be
to ensure that um uh that we actually stabilize the ground. Right. Right now
there are some there's well there's a combination of uh of i the English ivy
some fina there's some native um uh the native grape vines that are growing o o
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o over things um and uh and so part of the
project would be literally just simplifying um the landscape and all of
this course is done with an eye toward toward maintenance. Um uh we all know
that there is no no maintenance landscape but uh but I think with the
the proper selection of of plants um uh essentially well as I understand now the
DPW is does the lawnmowing and so we would still have that as part of the the
the scope but um but the expectation would be that um that the ongoing uh
landscape would u probably require like seasonal like you know four times a year
someone would probably a crew of two or three people would have to walk through
with their pruning shears and and um do a little bit of neatening up. But um uh
but the expectation is not to create something that would uh would require a
great deal of um attention. The only place where there's anything that that I
guess you would say is an embellishment is immediately in front of the building
itself where the the ex the existing um brick uh patio is. Um the idea uh here
was again in keeping with trying to elevate how the building presents itself
to the road u um the plan is showing some low evergreens creating a couple of
plant beds that could have perennials um in them but but but both both of these
little little bed areas are smaller than the area that you're you're sitting. So
it's it's really something that could be quite quite manageable. Um uh so um I I
tell everyone I can draw you Versail Gardens if you want, but if it's not
going to get maintained, I'd prefer not to even get start that. Um and so um so
there would need to be a bit of an ongoing um attention to that that part
of it. But um um but it would not be other than mowing of the grass on a
weekly or bi-weekly basis, it would not require um you know hiring a full-time
gardener to to take care of this. Um um over time um uh with these sorts of
plantings and depending on how much sort of handing does go on, a lot of these
things will sort of take on a life of their own as you probably know. I think
if we uh select the right the right plants and especially in the areas where
I mentioned previously the northern and eastern property lines where the
topography falls off having some plants that actually um uh sort of um are
allowed to grow to their full potential actually would be advantageous. Um so in
all probability and we've spoken about the fact that um that with anything like
this um in all probability it would be useful for the neighbors to be um
introduced to the to the project uh before um too much goes on because
obviously it's it it is something that will um that the the visually the
landscape it would definitely change to for the better but um but it would be a
change and I know frequently um uh uh uh we don't want someone coming home from
work one and saying, "Oh my god, what have they done?" Um, and I think it's
it's all going to be a very very positive um uh improvement anyway. And I
think it'll it'll really fill in rather nicely with the uh with the neighborhood
and be a nice a nice compliment um without um without turning it into like
an institutional looking looking structure.
» Uh thank you. First of all, if I recall, you're donating your time as well.
Correct. I want to um make sure everyone understands that. very appreciative. Um,
obviously an amazing job. My a few questions. My the I think the concerns I
have are the same as they were the last time we discussed it. Um, is just the
impervious surfaces that we're adding like you said in the back corner, just
to fill the space. I guess my question is, are we doing it just to do it? Um,
are we better off maybe just with with just the shrubbery back there um for
drainage reasons? Um, and then I think he said there was a brick walkway behind
this well that >> I think those are the two things that I
I'd probably reference and just ask the question whether they were necessary for
the plan and maybe they are maybe there's an idea about you know um you
know the theming that we want to put on there and how we want to use those
spaces that I'm not aware of and maybe they're fantastic. And then you touched
on the maintenance that was my other concern. I didn't know if Nick had been
um you know spoken. Yeah. If he was consulted about if he was raped. Uh it's
obviously what I hope. Um as far as because you know DPW I know you s I'm
sarcastic with the botanical gardens but we did lose a bunch of those trees and
some of the things that are there and it's something every time we put more in
we got to you got to worry about taking care of them. Um, and then the other
thing I want to point out is you talking about the tree county, you just said we
want to maximize the tree county, right? Correct. Yeah. You don't need a study
for that. That's a great idea. Um, that's all I have. I mean, I I I love
it. It looks beautiful. I just want to make sure um, you know, there's a reason
we're putting in that back corner that makes sense for Fair Haven. Um,
» like placemaking. I think that, you know, we always talk about this race
talks about a lot. It does give it just something like I walked around with my
dog. I would have sat there for a few minutes. like I
» it does add something, but it of course if it makes sense with drainage like
obviously that's a big thing. Um but I the the pathway in the back I do think
is good because when we were there for love where you live day the garbages are
on the side and I know that your intention was to make it so the garbages
can go in the back and so it does give them like a flat surface to be on
because they kind if you go there now they're like very visible on the right
side. So I think that's not a bad thing. You say we're talking about putting
garbages in the back corner on the circle.
» No, no, no. >> I see the P.
» Can I uh add a couple points to round out what Stephen has put on offer for
council? Um so this plan has been um presented to the historic preservation
commission and endorsed there the shade tree commission and also supported there
and the um facilities committee met with me Nick and Rich
I think um I don't think you were there at that meeting but we did talk about
the components that were being put forward by uh ghosting park and they
proposed bringing putting a cans to back which I agree with by ordinance we're
not supposed to be able to see them on the street anyway so they should be back
there um and uh the dedicated bicycle rack there were a couple of things that
were um cons part of the list of work that the local government is planning to
do to improve the building and the site and this landscape plan um uh
come included it so it so that it is all cohesive
where for example I'm sorry I left on where for example the architect um
proposed a concrete pad chain link fence around the trash um at the facilities
committee meeting it was discussed by the engineer and our head of DPW that it
it it's a little was little overkill and that continuing the brick walk and doing
a landscape border to to close was just a more appropriate design response to
the problem that was being solved with maybe just two big
» the back right corner. What's the thing in that? So that it's very interesting
and I what I would say for council is when you go to look at that site
what this plan will feel like compared to what it feels like now
it's easy to not understand how much of the property is not part of how we use
the site now because from the outside edge of that circle that you can see
that's at the line at the lawn it all drops away and there was a a compost
area in a farm that you know the neighbors just sort of you know it
looked neglected and unused and and uh they didn't see a property line and so
you know those things happen. So this would essentially reclaim and capture
what is the public space that >> could that be stone dust or like you
know you remember we once talked about a parking lot that was like sort of y
» impervious and it had but it had brick in it also to give some stability.
» Yeah. I I'm going to let Stephen, but I'll just tell you a dry set brick is
also it >> there needs to be a dream future
component in that corner whether we leave it the way it is or do something
to recapture a useful space for our community and and I'll let Stephen
address it. But the only other thing I wanted to add is there at the facilities
committee meeting it was discussed whether or not we need a sprinkler
system and we want to go ahead and incorporate sprinkler system that way.
you know, mostly it's has to do with the lawn, but a drip line in the the buffer
will help to ensure healthy growth and you know, so it's a it's a little extra
expense, but it's probably it's a smart uh it's a smart move to ensure that
things, you know, well, your GP is important. I just want to be consistent.
We were with the tennis fors, you know what I mean? We were thinking about
putting the asphalt path and and we ended up going with the stone dust. You
could talk about that. Yeah, the um there are a lot of well two things. One
is and we may have discussed previously the principal generator of storm water
run is obviously the building itself and and so the the roof leaders do go into
the ground. I guess we don't know exactly
» on either side of the building >> there are dry wells there to my
knowledge that they're they're actually operating. I mean what I've driven by
when it's raining I don't see any waterfalls coming along off of uh cloud
gutters or whatever. So that seems to be working. With regard to that the uh that
actual patio area, we haven't actually selected a paver or whatever for that.
But there are um pavers that are specifically made to serve the same
purpose as so-called orus asphalt, which you you probably had seen. There are
these really dramatic um uh demonstrations of that where fire trucks
will take a 4 inch fire hose and shoot water onto porous asphalt and it
literally won't go more than 10 ft. It just dis because there's so much pore
space in the asphalt. Well, there are pavers that are made to serve the same
purpose. They have about a 3/8 inch joint and you actually put the
equivalent of stone dust in that joint. Um, and so I would expect that this
patio area would actually not generate and it would become its own dry well if
you would. It has a porous base under it.
» That would be awesome. Uh, Nick, just one question. Does this water He just
said we don't know where it goes. Does it go towards Colonial? [laughter]
» No, it is nowhere near
» I appreciate the question. Can I ask a couple questions? Um I I also had the
same question about stone dust for the path around the building as well as in
that back right hand corner. Are you proposing to put benches back there? Um
there there is interest and once the landscape is developed um and we'd
actually hope that this would become part of the sort of fair haven green
space if you would and that perhaps people would want to go and spend time
there and so so we would expect that there probably would be benches um in
several locations around the perimeter where you get literally sit in the shade
of of a tree and and sort of just enjoy the the quiet. So, you mentioned uh
mowing the lawn as part of the maintenance plan. So, all of all of
these new plantings and landscaping designs that you're proposing,
who is expected to maintain it? Do you expect the burrow to maintain it or do
you have volunteers that are going to do this? Well, yeah, like I I I mentioned
what the initial installation definitely requires a bit of attention, but but
ongoing I would not expect it to be something that would have to be done on
a uh you >> mentioned four times a year,
» right? Something like that would probably be be certainly would be
necessary. Yeah, that's what that that's I mean our property
» because these are not going to be plants that that you would need to go out and
shape into like little green meatballs or anything
mulched and >> yeshm
» do they take water better than or that's standard watering the first year year
and a half? >> Um I think well we would expect that
there there would be a um a drip irrigation system for the for the new
plantings. So for the first year or two that would be that would
» that factored into the cost of all of this?
» Yeah. >> Yeah.
» As part of the investment. Do we do you have an idea of how much all this
» um I'm in the process of of developing that? But I don't have one for you
tonight unfortunately. >> Is the storm association covering that
cost the landscape? It's not the burrow. >> Yeah. But we'll let you from what I
understand. >> The maintenance is going to be the
burrow. The initial installation and the tree landscaping and stuff.
» Just if we had been maintaining this prop property for the last 20 years,
we'd be in the situation anyway if we'd have to maintain it. So like it's any
other burough property. Now we're actually going to make it look standard.
So >> you know, we're adding one or
» definitely I mean it's going to add it, but this is
» a burden on DPW. I don't want that to happen. And I I have one last question.
At your last presentation, I think you mentioned a vegetable garden.
» Did you talk about that? >> The um uh there were some members of the
historic association that thought that and it's still on the plan to the north
here on the plan. >> Right. Right. So that that that's sort
of lingering on the plan. Um but I think that's probably not as high a priority
as as as it was. Okay.
» I don't know how crazy I see a liability there.
» And and other people. So the discussion and it is lingering.
It's just a it's a placeholder for a thought. It doesn't have to happen. It
can happen. It could go in be removed. It's not a is not a permanent but it
could also not go in ever you know but [clears throat] the the thinking was and
correct me where I might be off at least is the president historic association
can talk about it. There was conversation about historic gardens and
the herbs and things that were grown and used in households
in back in the day. And would it be interesting to have programs that tied
in with our history and be able to grow those herbs or medicinal plants and
flowers um to incorporate into some educational program.
» It was more of an educational tool.
» Yeah. And perhaps you could get the girl scouts or the boy scouts and that could
be something that they work on. >> And we could use
a really strong. Is this is this an issue with someone eating burrow
produced product and they have some sort of
» sides?
Well, >> there's always the liability that
[clears throat] >> I love the idea.
» We're not are we selling it? Are we giving it away?
» I don't know what like we said. That's a lower. It sounds like that's a lower
» on the drawing as raised bed which should be collapsed and remove or
it's easy to install after the fact. We can even just move that discussion to
down the road and just come back to it later to see if it's still something
that has merit. I mean at some point there probably maybe there will be
historic images on display and some to a certain extent there are maybe there
will be cuts and maybe maybe that'll have a place but maybe things go in a
different direction and it doesn't have a place but it could be added later with
Google. >> Yeah, I just two more points. one um at
the shade tree commission we did talk about how he his pruning plan and I
really love his approach to pruning where it's kind of taking some out slow
like in pieces so that you can see what does maybe bloom after things that might
have looked like they were dead before can actually have life. So I loved that
approach and we were talking about how do we like
» maybe as a burrow also take that approach on more projects. The second
thing is when I went over there the other day it really does go down. I
didn't realize how steep it was. So, I think that's the big thing for me is
just the safety of that and making sure that that really is stabilized. I have
to suspect that that's going to take a little bit more of the money. Like I
think that might be costly a little bit is the stabilization of that. But that's
just me as a person. >> I want to say garrison or something.
» I don't know. So stabilize it. >> Well, you know the rule with things like
that steep topography number one is don't touch it if you don't have to. Um
and walls are expensive. >> Yeah. um if you're going to terrorist
because once you get started with that it's yeah that that corner the uh the
northeast corner there um um number one it's not obvious that your property line
extends literally within six feet of that building
» and there's a little little chain link fence that they have um and um it is
over a six foot grade change >> um it's almost a oneonone or 45 degree
slope um coming up um at at this corner So, uh, right now it has vines and
things on it and so, uh, when some of the initial cleanup gets done, um, we
should really tell who's ever doing that stay off of that until the last moment
so we can really see what we have to have to deal. Fortunately, we're not the
plan doesn't direct any new storm water, let's say, in that direction. So,
there's nothing that we would need to do to that would destabilize
that. Um, but we'd want to make sure that that long term, you know, that it
takes care of itself. So, um, >> great. Well, thank you for all these.
Yeah. >> Um, what's the ask here? Are we putting
this by the introduction or are we voting on this now? Like, what's where
are we at? >> Procedurally, that's why I mentioned
that it's been to all the other, you know, suspic
Well, there's pieces. Oh, sorry. >> It, you know what it is? It's It just
seems like we're not in agreement on it.
I think you're saying on the final >> on the final
» um you know this the second time I was at I was at the first presentation it
correct me if I'm wrong it seems like it was this you know the same presentation
but we haven't there hasn't been any changes there hasn't been any motions
made to accept and say like you know remove the vegetable garden or anything
like that so you could technically you know put it on by motion and put some
sort of conditions on it. >> I'll put I'll put a motion to accept
this plan so we can move forward but maybe take out the vegetable vegetable
garden. >> Do we need Allison? Do we need a
introduction and a adoption for this or no? Because it's
going to be what might be it's going to be expensive, right?
» We're not paying for it. >> We're not paying for it.
» Just a motion. >> Yeah. possible. Right.
» I'll second it. >> What are we The one question. What are
we exactly improving? >> I The only the only reason I asked is
because I heard I heard stone dust. I you know
» I I personally >> we talked about porous surface
potentially like what exactly >> porous surface. I prefer the stone the
personally the brick just so it's consistent with the look of what we
have. >> Um but porous is very important. maybe
no ve vegetable garden and make sure it's you know stable and all the storm
water you know root requirements are part of it
» and that we approve historic association to pay for it is that the other piece of
it do we have to say that >> um
» do you know if that has to be >> well the historic association is already
um already presented they're paying for the project so maybe what I mean if you
wanted to put a stipulation in that this project would be um conducted with no
cost to Burrow, you could put that in the motion. I think that'd be fair to
say. >> Is there like a list of this is what's
in the project like based like you have the picture obviously and you discussed
it. You you have a very great knowledge of it which I heard, but is there a list
of these, you know, this is the landscaping that's going in. We're
putting in 80 linear feet of, you know, so we know what we're
» Yeah. We don't uh we don't have an official sort of uh bullet pointed.
That's my That's my only thing is you you did a great presentation, but like
we're approving more of a concept in my opinion. I I'd like to just like
» a material sheet. >> Well, a material exactly what we're
doing and we come in and we literally we know exactly what we're approving. I
don't I'm not hearing any push back. >> No,
» I think this is supported >> n at least 90% by each.
» Can we say we introduce it next with the condition or
» I don't even think we need to introduce it. I think I I'll we'll put it right
back on to vote on it. But then at least we know exactly what we're voting on. We
are changing the burough >> landscape,
» but >> pretty substantially.
» But what we have to understand is there is a cost to the burrow. So just so
everyone's clear and it's not to to put the project,
» you know, to bed. It's >> there will be ongoing maintenance that
is performed by the burough. So the resolution would right put it by way of
resolution. That's something we should have this
whole time. >> Yeah.
So, >> well, we're doing
» but this this would be >> Well, no, we're really we should have
been because it's overgrown and >> but I I think it you know a resolution
should encompass that there will be maintenance that's required of the DPW
workers to >> and that's an expense that will be borne
by the burrow >> by by the burrow. Right. I'm not I'm not
saying that should be the the term here. I'm just saying that it's something that
we'd have to put out there. >> It's going to be a deterrent. I think we
need to know what we're approving specifically as a governing body and
also know what those um obviously an idea of what those costs will be. I
think we already do know, but um >> I still like the vegetable garden.
» Listen, [laughter] if if that's if that's put on there, but
at least we know we're voting on that right now. I don't know what we're
voting on. Exactly what plant and what >> I listen
» yeah like what's being removed what's being
» yeah I think how much extra footage we're getting what's native and what's
not native we you know >> what's being
» Can I ask Nick can you ask Nick can we ask you a question what like in your
opinion how much extra work do you think this is going to be
» uh generally speaking uh obviously the addition of sprinkler system and a you
know soaking hose around the perimeter plantings There's additional cost
associated with the water um for for the landscaping and then also uh any
operational type of the sprinkler has to get damaged or broken have to get
replaced and you know repaired >> blowing out the system
» um and then winterizing the system in the in the in the fall and winter then
startup associated with that as well. uh you know obviously there's existing lawn
mowing that happens uh in and around the facility um as discussed most of the
plantings that I guess are being discussed are native plants so hopefully
they don't need to be replaced or um much pruning or much attention needed to
them on a on a weekly or monthly basis is kind of hopefully you kind of plant
it you let it live and then it receds itself on an annual basis uh with there
could be some costs associated with, you know, maybe there's a species that
didn't take it didn't work and have to it has to be replaced or amended at some
point in the future. >> Um, you know, square footage wise, um,
you know, mulch, obviously right now the the the perimeter is is is the way it is
because of the steep slopes. There's hesitation to do any type of work. You
know, the ivy is obviously not native, but it it's a good form of
slope stabilization there. So, >> we didn't really go into treating it or
pulling it out because we didn't want to cause unintended consequences to the
neighbor without, you know, a solution to kind of mitigate those things. Um,
» could we leave the ivy? Could we leave the ivy in that especially in the back
corners? Is that something that's possible or is that screw up everything?
It might actually be best to as much as we don't really like the ivy, but there
are times when it's the right ground cover. Yes.
» The the only thing that um I was confused on Nick, you said a sprinkler
system. I thought you said a slow drip. Is are those two different things?
» I always drip like with a hose that would just
» that would be for the border where the >> Yeah. I didn't know if there was a
discussion about, you know, sprinkling the lawn area and then a soaker hose in
the landscape beds. I thought that was maybe what it would be that I didn't see
an irrigation plant. >> Okay.
» Is is there underground sprinkler systems being put in?
» Yes. >> Yeah,
» there are. >> I think that's what they were initially
discussing earlier. >> I was I was I was against the
» curious.
Pardon me. Are you replacing water? >> Um well any lawn work would be dependent
upon uh how much um disturbance uh resulted from the the planting or
construction activities. And so um in all probability we would just um seed
over the existing lawn. Soding the entire property would be sort of
prohibited costwise and is really not actually even necessary. Um, but having
a drip irrigation system for the plantings is really if you're investing
in plants that first year is um I mean >> you all know you try to go out and water
all your trees or whatnot. Um it's it's it's a cost effective way of it's an
insurance policy on your plants. Um >> so um but you're correct. There's a uh a
cost just for the water. The uh drip systems of course are the most efficient
because they're not throwing they're delivering it where where you need it.
Um >> drip systems work for grass.
» Pardon me. >> Can drip drip systems work for gr for
lawn or just >> No, it would just be for the just for
the shrubs. Yeah, the lawns would have to have the popup.
» So that's a good example. Like I just don't think we even knew what we were
going if we can get a list of everything that's being done for this project. It
goes back on agenda. Our next meeting is three weeks. Alison
» September 14th. September 14th. I'm assuming there won't be any huge issues,
but at that time we couldn't really look at it. Um,
» let's confirm Steve can generate that and because we were also trying to
» No, I'd be happy. >> No, no, Mayor the 14th police swearing
in that night too. Said it's going to be a long meeting just to
» but what we can do is have as um it's really it's a
» it'll be in our detail and stuff like that. So it'll be available. Is there is
there >> I think what you're saying is important.
Um and I just want to give some context though because I think for me we've been
talking about this on the historic side of things for years. So I'm like I guess
I'm a little eager to get it done because it has been kind of just fixing
up bsentennial hall in general. So but I think what all your points are important
and that's a good thing for us to see before we
» Is there a timing issue on getting the plants in the ground? Yeah.
» Is this a spring thing now based on the timing? um um anytime you know
traditionally um September 1st until snowfall is our prime time. So we would
like to move this forward. >> Let's say we gave approval. I'm talking
to everyone here. Um you know is this something that the does this go to bid?
I mean they're paying for it themselves. I I'm trying to figure out timing though
like do I need to rush to put this on a meeting when we might have a very long
night. Um, or could I put it on a meeting two meetings from now? I just
want to make sure I'm moving the right. >> We need to get this moving as soon as
possible to get the the trees that need to be eliminated eliminated and get what
we need to get in the ground before it gets too.
» That's what I'm saying. We're trying to do this for the fall.
» Yeah. This has been going on. >> So, so our plan right now is to put it
on the next meeting. Assuming that we get that list and it gives us time as a
group to look at it, we'll um it'll be back on workshop, right, Alison? Or or
would you put it in a different >> It could go if we're doing a resolution
just to bullet point by this, it's being maintained by this.
» No, but the problem >> we do that then there's going to be
there might be some items that they take out of the
» we can workshop it and list a resolution and if nobody agrees then we resolution
» that sounds great. Good to go. >> Thank you so much. Thank you.
» Appreciate it. We'll move forward. >> All right. Uh, next up, that was a very
long minute. Mike, come on. Back up. Public comment on agenda items only.
» Yeah, I'm just wanted to make a couple. I did not know that Secret was going to
make that presentation, but I think it's a good thing. Just two suggestions.
» Um, the soccer and baseball use the Snapchat the most, I think, during their
season. soccer for shoot. [clears throat]
» I think you guys might want to just touch base with the Steve Cop who I
think runs soccer and probably Fair Haven baseball
» just to go in there. I don't personally um baseball didn't use the Snapchat for
many years. When I took over, I opened it back up. I ran it for about two and a
half, three years myself. There's there is quite a bit of stuff. If if Cigar is
going to go into this and and move some machinery around, repaint the floors, I
I don't think there's that much that needs to be replaced as far as big
ticket items. Again, I also don't know who's responsible. I know Chris and I
have talked about this. I never got a clear answer about who's actually
responsible for the equipment in there. I fixed a couple of the machines myself,
got them working. The hot dog machine and pretzel machine are working now. Um
the refrigerator in there is enormous. It is definitely on its last legs. Okay.
Not that it has to be thrown away and replaced.
» If you're going to go through this process now, I think a couple things
should be looked at. Again, touch base with maybe soccer. They definitely use
that place every weekend, right? I don't know if baseball's going to continue to
use it. It's it's really up to them. If somebody has the initiative, they want
to do it, they'll do it. But generally baseball has it from March until
about the beginning of the summer. Well, I don't even think so. No, soccer takes
it back over, I think. >> Does it drive any revenue for baseball?
Like when you do it or not? >> It does. It does.
» It does. >> It It takes a lot, but um
there there's a lot of rusty tables in there. There's some machines that need
probably someone to look at. Like I would get a refrigeration guy in there
to look at that refrigerator and maybe just clean it up a little bit. It's
rusted to hell. All the tables are rusted to hell. There's a giant leak
under the main sink. So, she's going to put in the time to epoxy that floor.
» That leak's got to be fixed. >> Can I make a suggestion?
[clears throat] >> Um, in secrets process, she's an Eagle
Scout >> fan. I love that she's doing that.
» But, but what you're talking about could conceivably be too much for Scout
» 100%. But what Secret could do is interview these key leaders with the
group and then generate a report for council that would identify and maybe
get Nick to to run it by Nick too to identify.
» I'm not sure if DJ's still on but he's been coordinating with the other group
discussing all those those details. So maybe he wants to speak to that.
» Yeah, maybe too. Perhaps Sacred could identify those improvements or you know
maybe investments is a better word so we could consider investing over time
because I don't think we could do all of it at once.
» No, it's just just things to consider would help.
» But I think Mike you bring up a good point. Even the you know this the sink
leaking underneath that's something we can have DPW you know now we know about
we have DBW followup in our facilities. >> Yeah. you guys are going to be putting
in this kind of effort if DBW is going to move this stuff for her to have
access to do all these repairs and cleaning and organization.
» Yeah, >> might be time to get rid of some of that
stuff. >> And and there's a freezer. Fair Haven
Baseball bought like a thousand deep freezer that's sitting in the actual
garage right now. >> Maybe there's things that can be removed
there so you guys can move that into the space so everyone can use it and then
the garage has more space too because the BW utilizes the garage.
There are some things and I think a couple people that you should probably
talk to, especially soccer that may be able to help her with some things what
to look at because these are the people who use it the most.
» All right. Thanks guys. I'll talk about this on Wednesday. Thanks.
» Take care. >> Anyone else public comment on agenda
items only? >> Yes, I stand for fair. I just want to
know for new business introduction of ordinance. Is this the time to be
talking about that or wait? Yes, >> it's okay. So, I just had some questions
about the ordinance for the fire truck, which I
think is great that we have this $1.4 million in our coffers. I guess my
question is how long do we keep excess money that's been
left over from a previous bond? How long do we keep it in our own bank account?
» Are we paying interest? Are we paying interest on that money? Like some of
this is goes back to 2017. >> So $50,000 that we've had we borrowed in
2017. We're paying interest on it for nine
years. >> So we
» and then we're going to >> I can answer some of this and then jump
in. >> Okay. So literally just
» as as long Good question. As long as the bond deducting, we're paying interest.
Whether we have it sitting aside, we're also earning interest if it if it is
sitting as something, >> but whether we spend it or not, we're
paying interest. Um I think there's a legacy aspect to this um that has caused
um some of the accounts to build up longer than might be normal. Um it's
nothing nefarious or anything. It's just just they were sort of lingering. I
think administrator York has done a great job along with our CFO of
identifying it and cleaning it up. One thing that this is maybe news to some of
us, but one thing that's that Minister York and I picked about is maybe taking
some of the money and paying down the debt.
» Well, that was reduce the interest cost, >> right? We have an extra $5,000. Why not
just >> Yes, we're return and not pay interest
on it. >> It's it's not always an easy. So, when
you sell a bond, you make an agreement with the investor that you're not going
to um pay down the bonds early for a 10-year period.
» Okay? >> Typically, on our last deal, we
negotiate a seven-year lockout. Um but there might be other ways uh to
do it, which are a little more advanced, but but it's not impossible,
[clears throat] >> but that's something we're talking
about, right? >> Because some of these monies are not a
lot. $700,000 is a big chunk of change to be paying interest on. even if we're
getting interest, we're probably not getting what we're paying.
» Yeah, Bill, just and just to add to I mean, I've obviously been here almost
two and a half years now. There was a lot of cleanup that had to get done when
I did arrive. Um, and last year was towards the end of uh Councilman
Olsson's term as chair of finance council. We had this discussion about
going through all of the bonds and determine what money was still left.
Should money have been left in a bond from 2017? No, that's that's certainly
too long. So, there was a lot of cleanup that had to be made and Nancy and I
spent a good portion of this year going through it uh to find it. The fortunate
thing is we were able to find the funding out of these bonds to be able to
pay the fire truck without having to do permanent financing for us. That's a win
for everybody. And just adding on to what Councilman Olsson said too. Um and
I know Councilman Deelli who's the shared finance council, we've had the
conversation as well about it. Um to be able to use that other money to pay down
the debt and so a lot of that you those payments did not hit the tax roles. It's
another win for the taxpayers as well. So, I think we're making a lot of good
moves and with the support of the council.
» Great. Thank you very much. >> Thanks, Bill.
» Public comments.
I I came uh because I have some questions
and a few >> I'm Kathy Myum 91 Princeton Road and I
live on Princeton Road and I know you're thinking about ordinance 2026-11
and I'm home during the day and cars from the school actually don't haven't
parked on my street uh is my observation which I wanted to share. And I wondered
if um perhaps uh the uh Princeton Road could either be left off of the
resolution or if you're thinking that the kids will force be forcing
themselves to park further down that way. Also on Harvard Road, we've noticed
that they don't tend to park on Harvard Road either. is our observation when we
go around the block to walk the dog. Um so that's just food for thought.
» Mayor, do you want to add to it? >> Sure. So um
» so if >> so we have a so we have the chief's not
here tonight but Lieutenant Dra is here and we could just discuss um so going
back several months ago um we did put no parking on Cambridge and we did pretty
about a little over a week and what and the reason why we had the no parking
there was to determine will the students just not park on Cambridge or they're
going to park somewhere else. Um what happened when we did prevent the parking
on Cambridge, they did park on Princeton, they did park on Harvard,
they did park on Oxford and they do every day still park on Ruckers. That's
one of the other spots as well. So they did shift. Um the concern of why the
ordinance was presented in the way it is >> is because if we do restrict on those
streets, they are just going to shift down and park on those and then it push
it doesn't solve the problem. It pushes the problem to the other residents and
now they're having the same quality of life issue that the residents on
Cambridge are talking about and some of the residents on Ruckers. So that's why
it's included. Um, but again looking at it and I think the council when they
were addressing this looked at the most, you know, you know, non-restrictive way
to do it and rather than like Rumpson did two-hour parking or um or just not
having any parking at all, they did three-hour parking. So essentially, you
know, if you if you live in that house, you don't really have to move your car
until 10 10:00 a.m. because you have 3 hours it can be parked in that zone. And
if you go out during the day, like you come home at 12:05, you know, you don't
have to move your car either. So it's only 3 hours. You can't be parked there
for more than 3 hours. It's probably the least restrictive for anybody who's
there going on if they're concerned and >> right shifting the problem
» changed people's uh motus operandi I must say in great in in quite a big
fashion um from what their habits are in the
past not only for the people who live there uh some people uh have especially
live on corners they have two entrances to their homes and that kind of thing
and they they park. Right. I know my neighbor park has his
» and we're not preventing parking. I mean, you're still allowed to park on
the street. You just can't leave your car parked in the same location on that
street for more than 3 hours. >> Well, I understand.
» So, so my other my other >> it's only between 7 and 3.
» I understand. And people also have workers in their homes and things like
that who need parking. Um on our street they have nannies and other workers.
» That's why we didn't want to go to the permit system because of things like
that. >> I the one thing I'll say is every action
has a reaction, >> right?
» Move things around and it'll be a reaction to that, right? And we're going
to take that feedback and data and bring it back up here. And if we need to make
further changes or or um you know slice the apple,
» let me give you some other thoughts that mean very important to me. I was also
wondering about the amount of signage that's going to be placed and the
spacing of the signage >> in order to make the message.
» So I can answer that real quick. >> I'm very concerned about visual
uh site pollution and making the message clear without having lots of signs.
» We won't have any. So what so um we spoke with the prosecutor to determine
what was required for signage. Okay. >> Uh technically we don't have to put any
signage there as long as we advertise the ordinance. We are not required to
put any signage there for being forced. Um we did decide we probably should have
signage there so people are aware. So there will only be two signs on each
street or at the entrance. Ruckers will only have one because it's a culde-sac,
but all the other streets only have one at each entrance. So, there'll be the
least amount of signs possible. Again, because sign pollution was certainly a
concern for us. We did want to change the character of the neighborhood.
Again, we don't have to put any signs according to the prosecutor, but again,
so people are aware that the fair thing to do with the minimum amount. So, um
the entrances to the streets, so the most would be two on each.
» Perfect. >> Okay.
» Solves that problem. Kathy, one other thing because we care
about the same things you care about. >> Oh, right.
» But hopefully this forever, >> you know,
» this is what I would I had that also here, but I wasn't going to ask.
[laughter] >> Yeah, we will see. But
» yes, I know they want to get on the road and [clears throat] go
» their ways. >> I have a lot of the same concerns as you
and I still have them. Um, but I do know something has to happen.
» Yes. for I hope it's not too horror on you guys and maybe the school will come
up with their own solution which will eliminate all of this inconvenience for
our res. >> Oh yes.
» Yeah. Continue for those people on Cambridge or Rers. I know that's
terrible. >> Okay. Thank you for clarifying that.
» Thank you. Is there anyone else with public comment on agenda items only?
Alison.
» All right. We're going to move to approval of minutes July 27, 2026
special meeting. Do I have a motion to approve?
» Motion. >> A second.
» Alison, may I please have a roll call?
» Yes. >> Pot?
» Yes. >> Mi?
» Yes. >> Olson?
» Yes. Uh July 27th, 2026 executive session. Motion to approve.
» Motion second. >> Alison, may I please have a roll call?
Council on Miss Selling, yes. Cotch, >> yes.
» Yes. >> Uh July 27, 2026 regular meeting motion.
» Motion to amend. >> So I So I have a motion to amend. Um
it's on page eight, line nine. It says that um
» hello. >> So it's it's
» 27 page. It's the second start second paragraph. Council me has to step back
on this. There's something needs to be done. She refers to the mayor's comment
methodically debating this matter for five years and stated that this is the
first time she ever heard about this. And that is not what I said. I didn't
say this was the first time I ever heard about this. I said this the first time
we are debating this issue. And I think there's a big distinction there.
» So I'd like to make that change. >> I'll second that. Have you guys moved?
objection. [laughter] >> That's all I have. The motion to approve
or is that done? >> We need to do we need to we just approve
it with that change. Alison. >> Yeah.
» Motion to approve the amended minutes.
» Alison, may I please have a roll call? Council
» members call. >> Yes.
» Dell. >> Yes.
» Yes. >> Yes.
» Yes. make an important point where Allison who made the motion for the
special meeting. >> I know I did.
» Yeah, she wasn't there >> and I wasn't there. I think Elsa would
have flagged it if it was a sticking point. But that was me, Alison.
» Yeah, she made the council made the made the motion seconded.
» I did. >> And she wasn't at the meeting, didn't
vote the special meeting. So, should we redo that?
» Tell the executive the special meeting. >> Yeah.
So, I'd like to make a motion to approve the special meeting next.
» I'll second that. >> Please have a roll call.
» So, [clears throat] you're talking about the tan.
» Yes. >> Okay.
» One of the people special meeting.
» Wow. That was a good casual. >> I picked sens as soon as they did and
then she went to the next. I who thinks that
» so the quietest guys listening to good
» okay >> thank you uh next up old business
hearing and adoption of ordinances 2026-11
supplement burough code chapter 7 sections 15 and 20 have a motion to open
» motion >> a second
» all in favor >> anyone opposed anyone up here have
anything on this >> I think it's a great compromise
Um, you know, as we've all talked about, there's lots of push and pull on a lot
of these issues. We're trying to make the best of an imperfect situation. It's
not forever, hopefully. Um, so I really think it's we've all done a great job of
finding a counselor. >> Yeah. And one thing that I've said
before is that, you know, I have some concerns. Um, but I'm willing to try
this because something needs to happen. I just want to make sure that we are
looking at what's actually happening and evaluating it very regularly because it
is going to affect a lot of people in town.
» It is. >> Yes.
» Anyone in the public have anything on this?
Allison, anyone along? >> No.
» A motion to close. >> Second.
» Uh, all in favor? >> Anyone opposed?
Uh, do I have a motion to approve? >> Motion. Second. Alison, may I please
have a roll call?
» Hold on. Go back to who offered >> Betsy then Tracy.
» Council member. >> Yes. Sell. Yes. Cotch. Yes.
» Yes. Alson. >> Yes. Um and B administrator York. I
assume we're going to get notice over. Um,
» I already have a thing to >> Yeah, we're going to we're going to
we're going to email. We also send a certified as well.
» Can't claim that they didn't. >> We're certifying the streets
» like every street affected. >> Yeah. Okay.
» Yeah. But we're going to send the correspondence for the um ordinance that
was approved tonight to the school both email. We're also going to certify mail
as well. >> The residents aren't getting individual.
I'm sending it to at least the residents that attended the
last meeting. See, I think spread the word of it, but I don't think that I
think it's going to be in our social media. I
» I think that's not enough because this is a big change for every single person
on each of the college streets. I think it needs to be they need to get a letter
in their mailbox or something. This is a big change. I mean, as you said, it's a
lifestyle change. So, I think that we need to be better about getting it into
every resident. >> Why don't we discuss that in the
communications meeting? When's our next communications meeting? We don't
» I mean we could I mean if we're looking for postage and we want to we and want
to send a mailer to each house as well. We could certainly do that. I mean if
that's if that's what we do, >> you know, we want to if we want to pay
for postage and send it, we can certainly do.
» I'd be happy to help other we can just mail, you know, we did
postage on and mail it. >> That's it's something we'll need. Right.
» Uh, new business introduction of ordinances. Uh, 2026-12 bond ordinance
reappropriation for acquisition of new fire truck. Do I have a motion to
approve? Motion. >> Second.
» Alison, may I please have a roll call that was
» members?
Yes. >> Yes. Thank you. 2026-13
repeal ebike regulation ordinance. >> I think it just you maybe want to say
there's a state law. >> Yeah.
» And it's been superseded. >> Superseded by state law. It's a good
word there. Mayor [laughter]
» Alson, may I please have a roll call? >> Call.
Yes. Yes. >> Yes. Uh thank you. Uh, next up, consent
agenda resolutions 2026 175 through [clears throat] 2026-190.
Um, before I ask for a pin, does anyone want to separate it?
» I would like to. Um, can I separate it? 2026 180.
» I'd like to separate 179.
» Okay. Um, do you want discussion? Um, I just think I need to for me I need to um
» be separate. >> You can just abstain from whatever
resolution. >> I love good.
» Um, so I I don't know how that works then.
» I'll just be accept. >> Yeah.
» Okay. >> Um, and then 179 order.
» Oh, you guys love it. refusals. Okay. Um so how about this? Do
we do we need do we need three separate votes?
» No, we're going to do one for each of those. Okay.
» Um so we're talking 175 through 190. >> Um with a recusal from Brian on 179, a
recusal from Michael on 180. Um do I have a motion?
» Second. Uh Alison, may >> I please have a Council
members Cole, >> yes. Inelli,
» yes. Cut, >> yes.
» Yes. Also, >> yes.
» Uh, thank you. Department reports July 2026. Um, a motion to approve all of
those reports. Municipal clerk through municipal court. Motion with a Hardy.
Thank you. >> Second.
» All in favor? >> Anyone opposed? [laughter]
» Does anyone have any committee updates? >> That's nice. that's on there and I don't
notice it, I'll I'll be more prepared. >> So, we talked about in the in the
communications meeting that we would like to make sure that we're having
committee. So, we'll move forward if anyone does not mention anything. Don't
feel that you have to, but we'd love to hear what's going on in your committee.
» Sure. >> Thank you.
» Um, good to the burrow. Please stand identify yourself by clearly stating
your name and address for the record. Please observe time of three minutes.
Anyone with a burrow or public?
Welcome back though. Missed >> you.
» So on your >> name and address please.
» Answer if fairly. So on the consent resolution
2026-175 the title is [snorts]
interview for police chief. The first whereas says interview for patrolman
the therefore says police chief. So I'm just
matter. It is indeed for release. >> Do we need you? Don't need to revote on
that bill. >> Thank you, Bill.
» Anyone else? Would they go to the burrow the public? Alson, anyone on?
» No. >> How about fireman's fair? I know it's
not really us, but I mean it's kind of us. So, um, make sure you're
volunteering. Everyone in the fireman's here coming out. Very excited before our
next meeting. So, to see all that. >> Anyone else? Uh the historic association
is hosting its annual garden party. Um this year we'll be celebrating the 120th
anniversary of a bar pond and um honoring Chris Brennan on that same
spirit. Many people have seen his video which is wonderful. He's a really great
historical. Brunson Hill and it is a tremendous uh history that
really includes a lot of therapy. >> So this year it is 120 years of
» please get your GPS to the phone. >> September 26th.
» September 26th. Thank you. >> Anyone else?
» Um I would like to discuss potentially I think I'm going to reach out to all of
you now that um we have the Cambridge thing settled. I might want to send a
second email. We never a second letter. We never received um a response back
from the RBR board of education. Um and in our new rules, they still do have to
cross the street across Ridge Road. So, the safety concern still does stand and
it's something that I am concerned about. Um and we did not receive
response and I'm hoping that RBR sees that if there are kids that are going to
be crossing the road that they should be protected. So,
» did we um did we communicate that to the county?
» Yes. >> Okay.
» They received they received the letters. >> Um the other thing, just to correct the
record from the finance committee, there was a communication that went around the
town today saying that we had a tax rate of 1.427.
That's incorrect. That's last year's tax rate. Our tax rate this year is 1.395.
That encompasses um the schools, the county, everything. Um and our portion
of that for the [clears throat] municipality is 311.
That's the portion that 22% that we uh take care of. I also want to make it
clear that the finance committee is constantly meeting. We look over every
single line item consistently all the time. And the reason that sometimes we
do have to cut a service is just because of that because we have to fit it all in
the pot. Um that's what I got. >> Sure. There is a community solar event
through the green team and that is on September 13th.
» Thank you. >> Stop solar. Sorry.
» We do have an executive session tonight. >> So [laughter]
» I'm going to ask to uh No, we're going to go we're going to
go out into executive session. The time is 8:50. Do I have a motion?
[clears throat] >> Second.
» All in favor? >> Anyone opposed? Thank you.
Uh motion to close the meeting at 9:01 p.m.
» Motion second. >> All in favor?
» Anyone opposed?