[2:03] and. [2:52] >> [2:54] good afternoon everyone. [2:56] My name is ed flynn. [2:58] District city council. [3:00] I am the chair of the boston [3:02] city council committee on city [3:02] services. [3:07] Today is AUGUST 31st 2026. [3:11] The exact time is 203. [3:15] This hearing is being recorded. [3:18] It is also being live streamed [3:20] at boston.Gov/city council dash [3:24] tv broadcast on xfinity channel [3:29] eight rcn 82 fios channel 964. [3:33] Written comments MAY be sent to [3:36] the committee email at sk dot [3:39] csv city@boston.Gov. [3:42] And will be made part of the [3:43] record and available to all [3:44] city councilors. [3:48] Public testimony will be taken [3:49] at the end of the hearing. [3:52] Individuals will be called on [3:54] in order in which they sign up [3:55] and will have two minutes to [3:56] testify. [3:58] If you are interested in [4:00] testifying in person, please [4:01] add your name to the sign up [4:03] sheet near the entrance of the [4:03] chamber. [4:06] When you walk in if you are [4:08] looking to testify virtually, [4:10] please email our central staff [4:14] liaison shane pack and shane [4:18] and dot pack@boston.Gov. [4:20] For the link and your name will [4:21] be added to the list. [4:22] Before I begin I do want to say [4:26] thank you to shane and ethan [4:27] for being here. [4:28] They're our city [4:30] council central staff and we [4:31] want to thank them for their [4:33] for their work and [4:33] professionalism. [4:37] Today's hearing is on docket [4:38] 0335. [4:41] in order for a hearing to [4:44] discuss accessibility issues in [4:44] boston city hall. [4:48] This matter is sponsored by [4:49] myself and city council erin [4:51] murphy who was referred to the [4:53] committee on FEBRUARY 11th, [4:54] 2026. [4:59] Today I am and I am joined by [5:01] city councilors in order [5:01] of arrival. [5:05] Councilor fitzgerald, city [5:08] council PRESIDENT Breadon, city [5:09] councilor louijeune. [5:11] At this time I do want to [5:13] acknowledge a letter of absence [5:15] I did receive from one of my [5:15] colleagues. [5:19] I'll read it into the record, [5:21] dear chair flynn. [5:23] MR. Clerk, city [5:24] council colleagues, I regret to [5:26] inform you that I'm unable to [5:27] attend this morning's committee [5:30] on city services on docket [5:33] 033135 order for a hearing to [5:34] discuss accessibility issues in [5:34] boston city hall. [5:38] I will follow up with [5:39] additional questions upon [5:42] reviewing my staff's notes and [5:44] watching the recording. [5:45] Please do not hesitate hesitate [5:47] to contact my staff with any [5:48] questions. [5:50] Sincerely, enrique pepen boston [5:52] city council district five. [5:57] I have the honor of introducing [6:01] two exceptionally um well [6:03] qualified advocates in the [6:05] disability community and worked [6:07] with both of them for a number [6:10] of years on accessibility [6:11] issues. [6:17] But before I ask both casandra [6:20] xavier and bill todd before I [6:22] ask them to give an opening [6:24] statement um, I do want to give [6:26] an opportunity to my city [6:28] council colleagues to provide [6:29] an opening statement. [6:32] I do want to give my colleagues [6:36] as much time as necessary, um, [6:37] for their opening statement. [6:39] I'm going to give I'm going to [6:41] give five minutes if if you go [6:42] over five minutes that's okay. [6:43] Continue going. [6:45] And I will not cut you off. [6:47] Let me start with [6:47] councilor fitzgerald. [6:50] Councilor fitzgerald you have [6:50] the floor. [6:52] Thank you very much chair. [6:53] I do appreciate it and I am [6:55] happy to be here for this [6:55] important hearing. [6:58] Uh, regarding accessibility, [6:59] uh, in and around boston city [7:00] hall but also just the wider [7:01] city in general. [7:04] Uh, and I think how we, uh, [7:06] show up, uh, for accessibility [7:09] in and around the property that [7:11] we manage here at city hall uh [7:13] should certainly be the [7:14] forefront and the leader of how [7:16] we, uh, provide accessibility [7:18] to the rest of the city if we [7:19] can't do it in our own [7:19] backyard. [7:20] Uh, it's going to be pretty [7:22] difficult for people to think [7:23] we can do it elsewhere in their [7:24] homes and in their [7:24] neighborhood. [7:26] So, um, I look forward to [7:28] learning a lot, uh, from both [7:29] cassandra and bill. [7:31] Uh, thank you for being here [7:31] today. [7:33] Uh, and for educating us on [7:35] what the problems that persist [7:37] uh, what some of the new [7:39] problems are, uh, and how we [7:41] can best learn and, uh, react [7:43] to what we're seeing out there [7:46] and, um, from you guys who are [7:48] living it every day, uh, [7:50] putting us in your shoes and [7:51] telling us what you need and [7:53] how best we can support you. [7:54] Uh, I think it's very [7:55] important. [7:56] So I thank you for taking the [7:57] time to be here. [7:58] Uh, and chair and I look [7:59] forward to both working with [8:01] the administration, uh, the [8:02] advocates and my colleagues, [8:04] uh, to make sure that we can [8:05] see sure that some of these [8:06] things are followed through on [8:07] to make life a little bit [8:08] easier for our residents. [8:08] Thank you. [8:09] Thank you. [8:11] >> council fitzgerald city [8:12] council PRESIDENT And [8:13] council PRESIDENT. [8:13] PRESIDENT. [8:14] You have the floor. [8:15] Thank you. [8:18] >> uh, councilor flynn, [8:18] mr chair. [8:21] Good afternoon, bill and [8:21] cassandra. [8:23] So nice to have you here. [8:27] Um, I'm this is an important [8:28] discussion just to evaluate [8:30] where we're at in terms [8:31] of accessibility, uh, in and [8:33] around boston city hall. [8:36] I know we've made incremental [8:37] improvements over the years and [8:38] it's an ongoing project. [8:39] We're not there yet. [8:42] Uh, so I'd love to hear your, [8:45] um, impressions, your [8:48] suggestions and hopefully we [8:51] can, uh, actualize, uh, some [8:53] of your suggestions and make [8:55] our city hall until the city [8:56] hall plaza on the environment [8:59] around, uh, here in government [9:01] center, uh, more accessible to [9:02] everyone and across the city. [9:03] So thank you for being here. [9:05] Thank you, council PRESIDENT. [9:07] Councilor louijeune, you have [9:07] the floor. [9:09] Good afternoon everyone. [9:11] I'm happy to be here. [9:13] Thank you to my colleague, uh, [9:14] councilor flynn for hosting [9:14] this hearing. [9:16] And I want to thank cassandra [9:17] and bill for being here. [9:18] We need to make sure. [9:20] Yes, cassandra are our policy [9:21] queen. [9:22] Thank you for being here and [9:23] our advocacy queen. [9:25] Um, it's important that we make [9:26] sure that the doors of city [9:28] hall are open to everyone and [9:28] that it's accessible. [9:30] We don't have a city for [9:31] everyone if we're not, uh, [9:32] remembering to bring the [9:33] margins and making sure that [9:35] those who have been [9:36] historically excluded from our [9:37] spaces and places that they are [9:38] centered. [9:39] And so I want to continue to [9:40] learn from all of you to think [9:41] about what we can do better [9:42] here in the city of boston and [9:44] work alongside the [9:44] administration and my [9:45] colleagues to make that [9:45] possible. [9:48] I think that was only 40s so [9:49] I'll I'll yield all my time [9:49] back. [9:50] Thank you. [9:52] Thank you, councilor louijeune. [9:55] I believe the americans with [9:56] disabilities act is arguably [9:58] one of the most important [10:00] pieces of federal legislation [10:00] on the books. [10:02] I filed this hearing order [10:05] because it is critical that we [10:06] make accessibility a top [10:09] priority for all in our city, [10:11] especially our seniors persons [10:12] with disabilities. [10:15] We know that over the years [10:16] boston city hall has made [10:18] improvements to ensure [10:19] compliance with the ada [10:21] american disability act and [10:22] improve accessibility for [10:24] persons with disabilities. [10:26] Some of these examples include [10:28] a new accessible entrance on [10:31] the second floor and a sloping [10:32] promenade in the city hall [10:36] plaza renovation in 2022, which [10:37] began under the leadership [10:40] of mayor marty walsh throughout [10:42] mayor janey's time and [10:43] completed a the mayor will. [10:46] There was also the installation [10:48] of a vertical lift at city [10:50] hall's third floor entrance to [10:51] the mezzanine area. [10:54] However, there is more work to [10:55] be done to improve [10:57] accessibility inside the [10:57] building. [10:59] Aging infrastructure continues [11:02] to limit accessibility in [11:04] certain areas such as the [11:05] broken escalators connecting [11:08] the second and third floor as [11:10] well as the halfway between the [11:13] second and third floor and city [11:15] hall labeled the third floor on [11:15] the north elevator. [11:18] As we all know, these elevators [11:19] have been down for quite some [11:21] time and it is important to [11:23] review access within other [11:24] parts of the building to ensure [11:26] those with disabilities can [11:30] fully access access all floors [11:32] departments meeting rooms when [11:33] they are in city hall. [11:35] Residents and neighbors tell [11:37] me it MAY be difficult and [11:39] confusing for them sometimes to [11:40] navigate city hall when they [11:42] are trying to obtain city [11:44] services, especially when they [11:45] have to reach multiple [11:46] departments. [11:48] They MAY come in from the city [11:50] hall plaza or congress street [11:51] from the garage area. [11:53] They MAY use the south [11:55] elevators to go to to go and [11:57] pay a ticket or get a birth [11:59] certificate on the second floor [12:02] while visiting a assessing on [12:04] third floor but with the [12:05] escalator down they have to [12:06] take the stairs to navigate [12:09] their way to find the north [12:10] elevator to get up to the tax [12:12] collection division or a [12:15] taxpayer assistance center in [12:18] that kind of half between the [12:19] mezzanine area on the third [12:21] floor and second floor. [12:23] It does sound confusing if [12:24] you're not familiar with the [12:25] building. [12:27] Last NOVEMBER I reached out to [12:29] commissioner shelton who [12:31] mentioned that the existing [12:32] escalators have been fully [12:34] decommissioned as they are [12:36] beyond repair, not [12:37] code compliant and no longer [12:39] considered to meet [12:40] accessibility standards. [12:42] He also mentioned that the city [12:43] is working to replace these [12:45] escalators with new stairs in a [12:48] fully accessible four stop [12:49] elevator. [12:51] And while the design phase is [12:51] ongoing. [12:52] But the. [12:54] >> timeline for construction [12:56] and completion remains unclear. [12:58] I also highlighted the safety [13:00] of the main staircase on the [13:00] third floor. [13:03] In my hearing order, the short [13:05] length of the bricks in the [13:07] reflective shine make it [13:09] difficult to see, especially [13:10] when you're walking down from [13:12] the fifth floor to the third [13:13] floor. [13:16] And while the current [13:18] guardrails help, I believe the [13:19] safety of these stairs need to [13:21] be enhanced to prevent people [13:24] from tripping and getting [13:25] serious hurt seriously hurt. [13:27] Many people know exactly where [13:28] I'm talking about where they [13:32] have um the podium for speakers [13:34] and the mezzanine level. [13:36] But right next to it is the [13:40] lift for the um for people that [13:41] are in a wheelchair so that [13:42] they can get up. [13:46] But I believe those stairs are [13:49] pretty dangerous if you fall [13:50] um, you'll literally fall the [13:52] whole flight off the stairs. [13:55] Um, I look forward to this [13:57] hearing to discuss these issues [13:57] . [13:59] Improving accessibility on the [14:00] second and third floor must be [14:01] a top priority. [14:04] And for nine years this is [14:06] probably been my number one [14:09] issue is how we ensure persons [14:11] with disabilities are treated [14:14] with respect and dignity and [14:15] that's something I'm going to [14:16] continue to work on. [14:18] Um we're honored to have [14:20] cassandra and bill and I do [14:22] want to give cassandra and bill [14:24] an opportunity to introduce [14:26] themselves, give an opening [14:29] statement and after that we [14:32] will go to questions from my [14:32] colleagues. [14:34] But I don't want to rush you so [14:36] I'm going to probably give each [14:39] person maybe maybe 12 minutes [14:42] and then and then after that [14:43] we'll go to questions. [14:46] So bill or cassandra who would [14:47] like to go first? [14:50] Uh I'm going first. [14:53] Okay bill, you're going first. [14:55] Just give me an opportunity, um [14:57] ,to set the timer. [15:01] Um, so bill, you have 12 [15:01] minutes. [15:02] Introduce yourself. [15:05] Give us a give us your [15:06] background. [15:07] What's important to you in [15:08] terms of a person with [15:09] disability? [15:11] Um, any recommendations that [15:14] you might have and, um, want to [15:15] say thank you to you, bill, for [15:16] your commitment to, um, civil [15:18] rights bill, you have the [15:18] floor. [15:20] Good afternoon. [15:23] Um, thank you for inviting [15:25] me to this hearing. [15:29] I have a long journey becoming [15:30] blind. [15:34] I was declared blind APRIL [15:37] 22nd, 2025. [15:43] I used to live in boston and I [15:46] recently moved to cambridge [15:48] because it's a brand new [15:50] building and an accessible [15:52] apartment. [15:54] And I want to thank the mass [15:55] commission for the blind for [15:59] helping me have this wonderful [16:01] place to live. [16:05] There are many issues facing [16:06] the city of boston. [16:09] They go beyond city hall. [16:13] I'm going to talk about one [16:16] of them that has become quite [16:18] frankly one of the most [16:22] important issues for me as a [16:23] person who is blind with low [16:26] vision and a senior citizen. [16:30] The lack of public bathrooms in [16:32] the city of boston. [16:33] The city should be ashamed [16:34] of itself. [16:39] The city it thinks that [16:40] bathrooms and fire departments [16:43] and police stations are public [16:43] bathrooms. [16:47] Firemen have told me they're [16:49] concerned because they don't [16:50] want people out digging in the [16:51] bathrooms when they have to [16:52] respond. [16:55] To a911 call. [16:59] The boston I spend most of my [17:01] time in the city now between [17:02] city hall and back bay. [17:07] The bathroom at the souvenir [17:09] concession store at the park [17:12] street closes at 4:45 P.M.. [17:16] If you don't know where the [17:17] other bathrooms are. [17:18] Good luck! [17:21] There is a temporary bathroom [17:22] just before you cross the [17:24] street to go to public gardens [17:24] . [17:29] I attended jaylen brown's [17:30] magnificent event yesterday. [17:33] Those bathrooms were closed for [17:37] regular maintenance per a [17:38] boston police officer. [17:40] Fortunately there were potter [17:41] parties there. [17:45] What happens if it's not [17:48] bathrooms closed walk down the [17:48] hill. [17:51] You just go to but you want to [17:54] go to the red line kind of go [17:55] back up the hill. [18:01] The city says that hotels are [18:04] considered public bathrooms to [18:06] all the hotels in the city know [18:07] that. [18:11] I also received information [18:12] that the city has a website. [18:14] For bathrooms. [18:16] Great. [18:17] But what if. [18:18] >> you are one of the more 2 [18:20] million international visitors [18:21] that come to the city and you [18:23] have a five year old child. [18:25] That needs a bathroom? [18:26] You're really going to look for [18:28] that website? [18:29] No. [18:31] This is a big concern. [18:35] Additionally, there are many [18:36] resources available. [18:39] Uh. [18:40] >> we'll briefly talk about. [18:41] a couple of them. [18:44] One is the carroll center for [18:45] the blind in newton. [18:47] I'm an alumnus. [18:50] That school transforms. [18:51] People's lives. [18:53] The other. [18:55] One is achilles international. [18:55] It's for. [18:57] >> athletes with disabilities. [19:02] Offices around newbury street. [19:03] You can find out more [19:04] information on the website. [19:07] City guides. [19:08] There are. [19:09] Many resources. [19:15] Available to people who um any [19:16] citizen anybody. [19:19] With sign any have a [19:19] disability. [19:21] But there's a. [19:24] Huge problem in the city [19:24] of boston. [19:25] There is. [19:29] No way for any person to find [19:31] out all the most magnificent [19:32] resources the city has. [19:34] Because every. [19:36] Department, every commission. [19:38] Has its own silo. [19:41] The question is. [19:43] >> what's the city going to do [19:43] about it? [19:45] A little background. [19:46] About me. [19:49] I am serving now my sixth year [19:51] on the city's eight strong [19:52] commission senior advisory [19:53] council. [19:54] So some of them. [19:55] >> are warmness of the. [19:57] Council, some for the blind. [19:59] Thank you to the school. [20:03] I am also a community [20:05] accessible monitor certified by [20:06] the state office. [20:07] On disability. [20:10] I don't. [20:11] >> have political power. [20:13] But I can tell you about. [20:15] things you need to improve. [20:18] The sandra. [20:19] >> is going to talk. [20:20] About city hall. [20:21] And the. [20:23] Infrastructure of the city. [20:27] We both know it's yeoman's [20:27] work. [20:31] Last thing couple. [20:31] Last things. [20:36] Anybody want any city [20:37] council staff wants to come to [20:38] the council on. [20:40] You can reach me. [20:41] Through council. [20:42] Funds office. [20:46] Happy to take you on a. [20:47] >> tour of this incredible [20:48] place. [20:50] The second. [20:51] Thing and the last thing. [20:53] >> is I've made. [20:55] This offer and no city [20:56] council has taken me up on [20:56] that. [20:57] It's all repeated again. [20:59] You want me to. [21:01] Come to your district walk with [21:02] you citywide? [21:03] Any place. [21:04] Any time. [21:07] Happy to be your tour guide. [21:08] We will both. [21:09] Learn from each other. [21:11] Once again. [21:13] Thank you for the opportunity. [21:16] To speak at this important [21:16] hearing. [21:19] Thank you bill. [21:20] Thank you for your testimony [21:21] for the important work you were [21:22] doing. [21:25] We're also joined by city [21:26] councilor brian were all city [21:28] council ben weber as well. [21:33] Um, cassandra and same with [21:33] you. [21:36] Um, I'm going to give you I'm [21:38] going to give you 12 minutes [21:41] but um, if you feel like you [21:43] need more time um, please take [21:43] it. [21:45] I will not cut you off. [21:47] Okay, but you have the floor. [21:50] Hello, everyone. [21:53] My name is cassandra xavier and [21:55] I'm a resident of the north [21:55] end. [21:59] I am a disability advocate and [22:01] I'm here once again to continue [22:05] the advocacy efforts for [22:08] residents of all backgrounds in [22:08] boston. [22:11] Um, my the thing I would like [22:16] to bring forward is the most [22:18] difficult part in that is the [22:20] concurrent street crossings. [22:25] That is incredibly important [22:28] that we address the issue [22:31] of concurrent street crossings [22:34] along with the already [22:37] concerning infrastructure of a [22:39] huge portion of the city the [22:41] street the concurrent street [22:42] crossings are incredibly [22:43] dangerous. [22:45] Now some of you MAY be [22:46] wondering what a concurrent [22:49] street crossing is and in the [22:52] most simplest terms concurrent [22:55] street crossings are is when [22:58] the vehicle and a pedestrian [23:00] can cross and drive at the same [23:00] time. [23:04] For some strange reason. [23:08] The overseers of this does not [23:10] believe it is a concern that [23:12] needs to be fixed. [23:17] Now imagine your child or [23:19] yourself or someone you know [23:21] who's elderly or with a [23:23] disability trying to cross the [23:25] street and as they have the [23:29] right to cross a large vehicle [23:31] of any kind is also turning in [23:36] towards them thus leading to a [23:40] preventable serious accident or [23:40] tragic incident. [23:45] I was on the radio gbh talking [23:47] about this not too long ago and [23:49] how dangerous it is. [23:51] I really really believe that [23:54] needs to be fixed and along [23:56] with the concurrent street [23:58] crossings which I hope to have [24:00] some of you come see with [24:03] me one day would be the city's [24:04] infrastructure. [24:10] There are there's a lot of uh, [24:15] street curbs and sidewalks that [24:17] really need to be addressed. [24:21] Um, it's a lot of accidents [24:22] waiting to happen or have [24:25] already happened to a lot [24:26] of pedestrians and I've been [24:28] talking about this relentlessly [24:29] over and over. [24:31] Every time I come here. [24:33] Every person I've been [24:35] interviewed with by [24:36] news reporters it's been the [24:40] same exact concern [24:41] infrastructure of boston and [24:43] many other places need to be [24:45] corrected and addressed. [24:47] The concurrent street crossings [24:49] need to be addressed in [24:51] truncated domes need to be [24:52] corrected. [24:54] And if you're also wondering [24:56] what an in truncated dome is, [24:58] it is the little strips on the [25:00] ground at the end of the curb [25:02] that you could cross and there [25:03] are bumps on the ground. [25:05] It's not just for decoration. [25:07] It's for someone with a [25:08] wheelchair. [25:09] Someone who uses a white cane. [25:13] Uh rollerbladers and strollers [25:14] to know that they're on the [25:16] edge of the sidewalk so that [25:18] they are able to stand at the [25:20] end of the street safely. [25:22] Some of those in truncated [25:25] domes are broken and those need [25:25] to be corrected. [25:30] Um, and once again, my name is [25:31] cassandra xavier. [25:33] I am a disability advocate and [25:36] i live in the north end and. [25:39] Thank you for your time and [25:41] I'll hand the floor back. [25:45] Thank you. [25:46] >> cassandra. [25:49] Thank you for your testimony. [25:52] Thank you for your leadership [25:54] in advocating for persons with [25:56] disabilities here in boston but [25:58] also across the commonwealth as [26:00] a commonwealth of massachusetts [26:00] and we. [26:03] Have tremendous respect, um, [26:04] tremendous respect for you. [26:08] Um, I'm going to start with [26:09] councilor fitzgerald. [26:12] I'm going to give each city [26:14] councilor six minutes and if a [26:16] city council needs more time, [26:17] I'm not going to cut them off [26:19] and they can they can take the [26:19] time that they need. [26:21] But I'll give everyone six [26:22] minutes and then start with [26:23] council fitzgerald and [26:24] council breadon [26:26] council louijeune council we're [26:27] all councilor weber. [26:30] Um council fitzgerald you have. [26:31] >> the floor. [26:32] Thank you very much chair and [26:34] again thank you cassandra and [26:35] bill for your advocacy and [26:36] testimony today. [26:37] Um. [26:39] So just sort of going over what [26:40] what we just. [26:41] Heard I heard truncated domes, [26:44] concurrent signals, uh, [26:45] bathrooms around the city. [26:46] Um. [26:49] What else would you add to that [26:52] list that we think is and [26:53] without having to delve too [26:54] deep into any of that, I see [26:56] the look on on bill. [26:56] But if. [26:58] We really want to know right. [26:59] Like what are some of the [26:59] things that. [27:03] persist uh, that affect uh many [27:04] with disabilities? [27:04] Bill, why don't you go ahead [27:06] you could just start maybe you [27:06] can just rattle. [27:06] Some off. [27:07] I'm just. [27:08] Wondering what some of the [27:09] other ones that are pertinent [27:11] to what you think are you know, [27:11] what. [27:12] >> would you would prioritize? [27:15] I would oh my gosh I would [27:16] prioritize the concurrent [27:18] street crossings. [27:18] Yep. [27:19] Not just for myself. [27:21] There are many of us with all [27:24] kinds of backgrounds invisible [27:25] disabilities and very visible [27:25] disabilities. [27:28] Um we're outside. [27:32] We are active people or trying [27:33] to become more active out and [27:37] about and we should not have to [27:40] be in fear of our safety just [27:41] across the street. [27:43] You know, it is the most [27:45] disconcerting experience to be [27:47] someone who went through [27:49] numerous years of mobility [27:51] training for their white cane [27:54] and to have the right of way to [27:55] cross the street properly and [27:57] to still almost get hit by a [27:59] motorcyclist or a car. [28:01] That takes all of your skills [28:03] and training and it flushes it [28:04] right down the drain. [28:05] Concurrent street crossings [28:07] need to be addressed [28:08] immediately please. [28:08] Yep. [28:10] Understood. [28:11] >> so the truncated domes [28:12] concurrent signals? [28:13] Yes. [28:15] Uh, and anything else that. [28:16] >> you would. [28:18] Sort of that you come into, you [28:19] know, on a daily basis where [28:20] you say this is lacking in [28:22] terms of accessibility and [28:22] could be better. [28:24] Sidewalk infrastructure. [28:25] Yep. [28:27] >> you get your canes or your [28:29] mobility aid caught in the [28:31] crack of a ground or you twist [28:33] your ankle on a sidewalk where [28:36] there are missing bricks, you [28:38] know and that's just not cool. [28:40] Yeah I agree and this this is [28:42] not something again not for [28:42] anyone. [28:44] Not even an accessibility issue [28:46] uh, necessarily for those that [28:46] have any impairments. [28:48] But I mean this is for [28:48] everybody. [28:49] My guess. [28:49] It's everybody. [28:50] Right, mike? [28:51] >> I turn my ankle in a loose [28:53] brick all the time walking the [28:53] streets. [28:55] I completely I get it and I [28:55] should seek. [28:58] Someone deserves access to a [28:59] sidewalk without rolling their [29:00] ankle. [29:00] Yes. [29:01] >> understood. [29:03] >> it hurts. [29:04] I believe we built anything [29:04] then. [29:05] Yes. [29:08] >> to follow up on consensus [29:09] priority. [29:12] When I lived on west foxboro I [29:14] took a city employee for road [29:15] tire. [29:17] To walk center street. [29:19] And here's. [29:22] >> what you face on one side is [29:25] the latest equipment to cross [29:25] the street. [29:26] Some talk. [29:28] Some don't. [29:29] On the. [29:30] other side there's nothing. [29:34] On one side is a yellow tone [29:34] path. [29:36] On the other side there's [29:37] nothing. [29:39] You also have brown. [29:42] Well, folks, there's a reason [29:44] why I wear this yellow cap in [29:45] the city hall. [29:48] It's a reminder yellow is a [29:52] better color than brown or. [29:52] >> black. [29:53] For those tone pants. [29:53] Okay. [29:56] >> why does the city have [29:57] sewers? [29:58] But the curb cut outs. [29:59] ? [30:03] Blind people I know can lose [30:06] their came if they don't have [30:07] this ball. [30:09] If they have a regular stick [30:10] and it comes into the sewer. [30:13] No. [30:15] >> what are you going to do [30:16] about it? [30:17] When I was here in MARCH [30:18] talking about accessibility and [30:21] snow, the question for the [30:23] city's administration what are [30:26] your plans to make sure [30:28] sidewalks are more accessible [30:31] to everyone next winter storms [30:32] are coming. [30:33] Are you ready? [30:35] I offered a suggestion that not [30:39] one city council took me up on [30:40] create what I called the snow [30:43] upgrade briefly pay the kids. [30:47] The money goes not. [30:49] >> in an amazon card into a [30:49] bank account. [30:51] Now one. [30:53] City councilor approached [30:54] me afterwards. [30:56] That's embarrassing for the [30:56] city. [30:58] Council because it's. [30:59] >> going to happen again. [31:01] Snow doesn't go away. [31:03] cassandra's priority. [31:05] It's also my priority. [31:09] I walk all over back bay [31:11] downtown crossing city hall [31:11] class. [31:13] >> of the city. [31:14] Did a great job with copley [31:15] square park. [31:17] Much more accessible. [31:19] I'm usually there. [31:20] >> every tuesday and friday for [31:21] the farmers market. [31:24] It's a great place, it's more [31:25] accessible and I feel. [31:27] Safe from right. [31:29] So what's the city. [31:30] Going to do about snow removal? [31:32] It's coming just a few months [31:33] away. [31:34] What's the plan? [31:37] I asked the question and then [31:39] lastly mayor wolf, I've been [31:41] trying to speak to you for two [31:42] years in person about this. [31:44] And your. [31:45] >> staff has never responded. [31:49] Thank you. [31:50] Thanks, bill. [31:52] I'm sure you're not alone there [31:52] . [31:53] The truncated domes. [31:55] Uh. [31:56] They are going around and. [31:57] Repairing them now. [31:57] Right there is. [31:58] >> a federal lot to. [32:00] What I believe that was taking [32:01] place and so I know it's a [32:01] long. [32:03] Process but is it not? [32:03] Uh. [32:04] They're going around to try and [32:06] make them even on both sides. [32:07] >> of the road and. [32:08] Taking it piece by piece from [32:09] what I understand. [32:12] Uh, and as for the uh, the the [32:13] snow brigade. [32:14] Um, I think as. [32:16] Many councilors do here in our [32:16] own districts. [32:18] Uh, we do have a typical we try [32:20] to buy the kids ice cream if [32:21] they shovel out, uh, a [32:23] neighbor's sidewalk or a [32:24] hydrant, uh, or an elderly [32:26] neighbor or things of that [32:26] nature. [32:26] So. [32:28] Uh, we do what we can with. [32:29] >> what we've got, bill. [32:31] But I agree it could be more [32:32] organized and substantial. [32:34] But again, uh, that is my time. [32:35] Thank you, uh, to both. [32:37] >> of you for your suggestions. [32:38] >> look forward to, uh, talking [32:39] in the future. [32:40] Thank you chair. [32:42] Thank you, [32:42] councilor fitzgerald. [32:47] Um, I do want to, um I do want [32:50] to acknowledge my city [32:51] council colleagues. [32:54] They did go on record in [32:57] support of my proposal on to [32:59] eliminate basically concurrent [33:02] street lighting several times I [33:02] believe. [33:05] But I do want to acknowledge my [33:06] colleagues for the important [33:08] work and leadership they have [33:09] provided on that issue. [33:11] Certainly we have more work to [33:13] do to try to convince the [33:14] administration that we need to [33:16] make a complete change. [33:18] I also want to acknowledge and [33:20] the council fitzgerald [33:22] mentioned it but um I do know [33:24] councilor worrell was active [33:28] and is active on trying to uh [33:30] continue to work with the city [33:33] administration on the street um [33:35] snow removal and we had a [33:37] hearing several months ago but [33:38] I think council all wants to [33:40] have another one over the next [33:41] month or two months. [33:44] Um, but let me go to the city [33:46] council PRESIDENT For six [33:47] minutes. [33:49] Um, council PRESIDENT Breadon, [33:49] you have. [33:50] >> the floor. [33:51] Thank you very much. [33:52] And, um. [33:57] I really the I share your [33:59] concerns about the concurrent [34:00] street crossings. [34:04] Um in and I feel that there's a [34:07] level of lack of enforcement [34:10] and safety challenges with [34:11] crosswalks in general. [34:12] Like I was talking to someone [34:14] recently in the last few weeks [34:16] about just the sheer number [34:18] of incidents like we've had [34:19] fatalities on crosswalks in [34:21] allston, brighton. [34:24] We have had near-misses and [34:28] injuries were uh drivers don't [34:28] stop. [34:29] They stop, they slow down. [34:31] They stop and and the person's [34:32] like three quarters of the way [34:34] across but they run the drive [34:35] on and then they clipped them [34:38] on the shoulder with the wing [34:39] mirror and breaker on. [34:41] That has happened in our [34:42] district. [34:45] So I think and the other aspect [34:47] just the demography the [34:48] demographics of our of our city [34:50] is we have an we have an aging [34:51] population. [34:53] Uh, as we get older we have [34:54] more mobility problems. [34:56] We have vision and hearing and [34:57] sensory issues that new folks [34:59] can speak to very well. [35:06] Um and it it seems to be that [35:10] our um, streets are not safe [35:13] for all road users and I think [35:17] it's really challenging like [35:19] how do we in terms of your [35:22] knowledge, bill and cassandra [35:24] of other municipalities maybe [35:26] either globally, nationally or [35:29] locally the people places where [35:30] they do things differently that [35:31] we might learn from. [35:33] Have you any any any thoughts [35:34] on that matter? [35:35] Yes. [35:37] >> the city. [35:40] Belongs as a member of the open [35:41] mobility foundation. [35:44] It has had. [35:47] Staff lead that organization. [35:50] The question. [35:51] >> is and I don't know the [35:52] answer. [35:53] . [35:54] What is the. [35:55] City doing to. [35:57] Use the technology. [35:58] That's open source. [36:01] To improve monitoring of. [36:05] Transportation and vehicles. [36:06] ? [36:09] >> for example, minneapolis has [36:10] been a pilot. [36:12] Program with. [36:15] Major companies like pps to [36:17] make sure the curb cut outs and [36:17] up. [36:21] Walked along times as far as. [36:23] What city councilor fitzgerald. [36:24] Said. [36:25] >> that class. [36:26] Action lawsuit said the city [36:28] had 23,000. [36:34] Miles sidewalks to fix those. [36:37] Curb cut outs, according to. [36:39] The settlement, the city only [36:44] has to fix 1600 a year in 2024 [36:48] to meet the goal 2025 the city [36:51] was proud it fixed over 1700 [36:52] folks. [36:53] Do the math. [36:55] How long is it going to fix [36:56] those 23,000. [36:58] And they'll. [36:58] Never all get. [37:01] Fixed because it's just going [37:03] to start over again. [37:04] The law changes. [37:07] I know city government moves [37:08] slower than. [37:09] Turtles. [37:10] >> but the city needs to move. [37:11] Faster because the. [37:13] >> world moves faster. [37:17] Getting feedback. [37:19] Hold on. [37:23] That feedback is coming. [37:24] Okay. [37:26] >> feedback on way. [37:28] Sort of question. [37:30] Is what are you going to do [37:31] about these sidewalks and [37:32] streets? [37:34] What are you going to do about [37:34] the trees and the roots? [37:38] Roots don't go down they go [37:38] out. [37:40] Like I. [37:42] Said happy to. [37:44] >> come any time any place to a [37:46] city council district and city [37:47] wide walk with. [37:48] >> me. [37:51] And also cassandra on MARCH 9th [37:53] hearing she saw the very [37:55] impactful video she made. [37:58] Anybody looked at it since it [37:59] was shown. [38:01] MARCH 9th 2026. [38:04] There's a lot the. [38:06] City can do but the problem is [38:07] it's all in silos. [38:11] I don't know how well city [38:12] agencies work together. [38:14] I'm an. [38:15] >> outsider, not an insider. [38:17] Thank you. [38:20] >> um. [38:24] >> in terms. [38:24] Of the. [38:28] The tactile pads or the the [38:29] truncated domes as they're [38:32] called, um it seems that some [38:34] of the the yellow ones which [38:38] are more visually on the um. [38:43] Yes accessible that very often [38:44] the materials are made in is [38:45] degrades very quickly [38:47] especially if it's been [38:47] exposed. [38:49] Is that something that you [38:50] folks are observing in your [38:53] travels like uh just the [38:56] comments that the the truncated [39:00] um pads deteriorate and [39:02] basically need replacement in [39:02] very. [39:03] >> short order? [39:04] Yes. [39:07] >> uh, speaking of in truncated [39:09] domes that need to be replaced [39:11] by the edward brooke [39:11] courthouse. [39:16] Um, there is a there is an inch [39:17] truncated dome that is [39:21] completely ripped off and it's [39:21] missing. [39:23] I don't know if they plan on [39:25] fixing it any time soon or if [39:27] it was taken off intentionally [39:27] . [39:30] Um, but. [39:33] That's a concern and I believe [39:34] that they should all be a [39:37] standard color like yellow for [39:40] easy visibility, for low vision [39:42] and for anyone that you know [39:46] needs to be able to see it at a [39:47] distance or up close to know [39:49] where to stand properly. [39:51] Um yeah. [39:53] Thank you. [39:55] >> that's that's my time. [39:57] I have a place to talk. [39:58] Two places to talk. [39:58] About the. [39:59] Follow up. [40:00] At the. [40:02] Corner of charles and beacon [40:03] street. [40:06] There's a fire hydrant right [40:08] where the curb cut out should. [40:09] Be as. [40:10] >> you cross the street from [40:12] charles to go to the public [40:13] gardens next. [40:15] And I saw this when I had [40:15] better. [40:17] Eyesight walk out the. [40:19] back bay commuter rail station. [40:21] Turn right to go down dartmouth [40:21] . [40:24] Street at the intersection. [40:25] >> of dartmouth and. [40:25] Stewart street. [40:27] Couple of years. [40:29] Ago there was no curb cut out. [40:31] I saw. [40:32] >> a mother. [40:33] Push a. [40:35] >> child in a wheelchair and [40:36] had to go up. [40:37] Stewart street. [40:39] In the street. [40:41] I actually got a phone call [40:42] from some consultants. [40:43] >> I couldn't figure. [40:45] Out who owns that curb cut off [40:45] . [40:48] I was told it was the mass [40:48] turnpike. [40:49] It still. [40:52] >> hasn't been fixed as of last [40:52] friday. [40:56] I hope no other mother has to [40:59] push a child in a wheelchair up [41:02] stewart street to wherever she [41:02] was going. [41:04] I think it. [41:05] >> was a doctor's. [41:05] Appointment because I. [41:05] Asked her. [41:09] >> that's just 1. [41:10] >> or 2 simple examples. [41:10] A fire. [41:15] Hydrant at a curb cut off and a [41:16] mother having. [41:16] >> to walk. [41:18] >> up stewart street because [41:19] there's no curb cut out there. [41:24] Make a thank you, bill. [41:25] Thank you, MISTER Chair. [41:28] Thank you, council PRESIDENT. [41:31] Um, councilor louijeune, you [41:31] have the floor. [41:32] Thank you. [41:34] >> and I want to thank you both [41:35] for your for your testimony, [41:36] bill. [41:37] i do want to take you up on [41:37] your offer. [41:39] Um, to walk through the [41:40] neighborhood. [41:42] Um, for me, I live on the [41:44] street and I want to thank the [41:46] council and they're not here or [41:47] they're not coming right to the [41:47] disability commission. [41:48] I know their staff. [41:49] Okay? [41:50] But I have been there. [41:51] They have been really gracious [41:53] and the administration has come [41:55] out to my street to really look [41:56] at the disability and [41:56] accessibility issues. [41:58] And so I think that we do need [41:59] to do more of that. [42:01] Um, I wonder and because [42:02] they're not here it's a [42:03] difficult question to ask. [42:06] Uh, we there are so many silos [42:09] where like regardless of the. [42:09] Issue. [42:11] >> especially when it comes to [42:12] the needs of folks who are too [42:13] often marginalized. [42:15] I'm wondering if anyone knows [42:17] whether the disability [42:18] commission right now has [42:19] meetings where they try to [42:20] bring everyone together where [42:23] the top where the issue is just [42:24] on accessibility and [42:24] disability. [42:27] Um, I'd. [42:28] >> like to speak about [42:29] commissioner councilor t. [42:30] >> uh. [42:32] They do yeoman's work. [42:33] They need to. [42:33] >> be. [42:35] Trained put up for. [42:36] >> major projects. [42:40] They have to evaluate 217 city [42:41] buildings for accessibility. [42:45] Thousands of miles of sidewalks [42:45] . [42:46] And you got to figure out. [42:49] she told me who owns the [42:49] sidewalk? [42:51] >> who owns the bridge? [42:53] I think it's really complicated [42:53] . [42:56] And when you're looking at road [43:00] diet I was told you have [43:01] federal, state and city laws. [43:04] They conflict with each other [43:04] on many. [43:06] Levels and that. [43:08] >> was from the project manager [43:10] who managed the road diet [43:12] program and a project from west [43:13] roxbury. [43:17] Thank you. [43:19] >> I'm happy to speak to [43:19] afterwards. [43:20] Thank you. [43:22] Thank you for taking me up on [43:23] my offer for the commissioners [43:23] team. [43:24] That's great work. [43:27] They need more people and they [43:28] need better budget, more money. [43:31] Thank you. [43:32] >> thank you bill. [43:35] Um, either casandra or bill on [43:36] the issue of general [43:37] accessibility on the issue [43:39] of uh, concurrent street [43:39] crossings. [43:40] Are there examples of cities [43:41] who are doing it? [43:43] Um or doing. [43:45] Uh. [43:47] >> accessibility in ways that [43:47] we need to. [43:50] Copy or model or examples that [43:51] you've seen in other places [43:52] because you don't have to raise [43:53] a hand the light source. [43:56] So accessibility concerns [43:58] should always be. [44:01] It should be prioritized. [44:05] Oftentimes whenever an [44:06] accessibility need is brought [44:08] up to the forefront. [44:10] Um or is at least attempt to it [44:12] is always an afterthought. [44:15] you know, I always remind [44:16] everybody at some point you're [44:19] going to many of us will become [44:22] older and we will develop [44:23] disabilities by age. [44:26] So right now many of us can [44:26] avoid. [44:29] Those cracks in the road if [44:31] we're walking in a really fast [44:32] speed. [44:34] But sooner or later maybe 20 to [44:36] 30 years you MAY not have the [44:38] same agility or quickness that [44:40] you once did in the past and or [44:43] at some point anyone can become [44:45] a part of the disability [44:45] community. [44:47] Uh no one is exempt from [44:50] acquiring a disability not even [44:50] 20 minutes from now. [44:54] So whenever these things are [44:57] being whenever construction and [44:58] reconstruction of certain [44:58] places. [45:00] Are is is happening. [45:04] Accessibility should always be [45:06] woven into these things. [45:09] You know it's a compliance [45:12] thing and I'm going to keep [45:13] repeating it over and over and [45:15] over until we see it happening [45:15] . [45:17] And I'm also. [45:18] Open to. [45:19] Some further discussion after [45:21] this hearing as well with [45:22] anyone. [45:23] Thank you cassandra. [45:25] Other areas in the city that [45:27] you think are like the most [45:28] problematic, the most difficult [45:31] ,the most inaccessible for our [45:31] residents here. [45:35] Oh my gosh I can list one [45:35] of the many of them. [45:40] Um along common ave in the area [45:41] by the area where they have the [45:45] elephant standing those streets [45:48] or those blocks on the uh, [45:49] commonwealth area. [45:52] a lot of them do not have apps [45:54] buttons and that's shortened [45:56] for audible pedestrian signals. [45:59] Those are incredibly dangerous [46:00] street corners. [46:03] Um, and I believe that is where [46:05] someone had unfortunately [46:09] passed away because of lack of, [46:10] you know, the audible [46:11] pedestrian signals and the [46:12] street crossing signals. [46:15] And that is also where the [46:17] concurrent street crossing [46:19] issue is also heavily noticed [46:20] as well. [46:21] Okay. [46:23] >> um. [46:25] I'm not qualified to talk about [46:25] other. [46:27] Cities but the problem. [46:28] With cassandra said. [46:30] I don't know who said it. [46:31] But everybody. [46:33] >> in the world has a [46:33] disability in waiting. [46:36] Just of don't know when it's. [46:36] >> going to show up. [46:39] I do not know. [46:43] Till 2015 that I had an [46:45] isolated disease called my kill [46:48] generation of any of the city [46:48] councilors. [46:50] Talk to all the doctors at [46:52] mount sinai or doing research. [46:54] For doctors. [46:55] Who are teaching. [46:57] Students that the college of. [46:59] Optometry you want to. [47:00] >> meet them. [47:02] Come and see me. [47:03] I'll introduce you to talk to [47:04] ross at the normal. [47:05] College of optometry. [47:07] Amazing woman. [47:08] Amazing doctor. [47:10] Amazing research is still here. [47:11] That's just. [47:13] One example. [47:14] >> of my journey. [47:18] Thank you. [47:20] um, I wanted to follow up on [47:21] something that you stated [47:22] earlier. [47:23] Bill and I want to read it just [47:26] to make sure that I, um. [47:29] Uh, just to make sure that I [47:29] got it right. [47:30] I think when you were talking [47:33] about the issue of public [47:35] bathrooms, you were stating you [47:39] stated that hotels in the city [47:40] of boston or is it in the [47:41] commonwealth of massachusetts [47:44] that they are by right by law? [47:45] Public? [47:45] No. [47:45] Okay. [47:47] I just wanted to clarify what [47:48] the what you stated. [47:48] Okay. [47:51] >> I filed the complaint with [47:53] 311 about the lack [47:54] of bathrooms. [47:55] I received. [47:56] The form letter from crystal [47:58] with cautions office. [47:59] It stated. [48:03] It to the. [48:05] City considers public bathrooms [48:06] and hotels. [48:08] What are you going to do. [48:10] Parts for public bathroom? [48:11] Yeah. [48:13] >> I use the bathrooms, said [48:15] the company fairmont hotel a [48:17] lot because it's a shorter walk [48:19] than going to the library. [48:20] And what happens if the library [48:22] is close at 5:00 and you got a [48:24] five year old kid who needs to [48:25] use the bathroom? [48:26] They're not going to look at [48:27] the websites. [48:29] They're not going. [48:29] >> to look at wayfair. [48:31] That's in the letter that I [48:33] perform whenever I receive. [48:36] I recognize the person across [48:38] the commission team has human [48:38] work. [48:42] i can't talk about what other [48:43] cities do. [48:43] I only know. [48:44] About boston. [48:46] I'm just beginning to learn [48:46] cambridge. [48:48] It's a. [48:49] >> fascinating journey. [48:50] Come on. [48:51] Come and join me. [48:55] You'll find out what it's like [48:57] to become blind in the city [48:57] of boston. [49:00] Sometimes it's amazing, [49:01] sometimes it's hilarious. [49:02] And some. [49:04] Times this christian just says [49:05] it's tight. [49:07] Rome dangerous to navigate [49:08] these streets. [49:10] And we're. [49:11] >> in better shape than some [49:12] other cities. [49:15] My mobility husband's from [49:15] mexico. [49:16] Jesus christ. [49:18] Is where he lives. [49:18] Oh my GOD. [49:21] Good thing she has sights. [49:23] . [49:25] >> so is the city. [49:28] Going to move slow or is it [49:30] going to move fast and be [49:30] careful. [49:34] You've got over 200 million to [49:35] 2 million visitors that come [49:37] here every year from across the [49:37] world. [49:40] We've got a great example for [49:40] world cup. [49:42] They're coming. [49:43] Back folks. [49:44] What are you going to do to [49:46] make sure they know about [49:46] accessibility in in this [49:47] wonderful city? [49:49] That's the question. [49:51] I don't have the answers. [49:54] Well thank you. [49:56] Thank you for your, uh for your [49:57] time and your testimony. [49:59] I started my day today at the [50:00] national braille press. [50:03] Um, and I just know that it's [50:04] important that we do everything [50:06] that we can for, um. [50:09] Uh uh, all of our communities [50:10] here especially those. [50:13] Who are living and trying to [50:14] thrive with disabilities. [50:15] So thank you for your [50:16] testimony, bill. [50:17] Um. [50:19] >> and to you, cassandra and [50:20] for everyone at the national [50:20] braille. [50:21] >> press for. [50:22] The work that they do to make [50:23] sure accessibility is a real [50:24] thing for everyone. [50:25] Later I'd like to hear about [50:25] it. [50:28] And by the way, if any city [50:30] city councilor my go to find [50:32] links to come and see it talk [50:33] to me. [50:35] Brian the ceo will welcome you [50:36] with open arms. [50:38] Thank you. [50:40] Thank you. [50:42] >> thank you, [50:46] councilor louijeune and, um, [50:48] next up is councilor. [50:50] We're all just stepped out. [50:53] Um, one thing I do want to [50:53] mention I'll go. [50:56] I'll go to council whether I [50:57] visited the carroll center for [50:59] the blind several years ago. [51:02] Uh, serving all ages in all [51:04] stages of vision loss. [51:07] But talking to bill and [51:07] cassandra. [51:10] Um, I plan to do a visit [51:12] sometime in OCTOBER and would [51:13] like to invite all of my [51:15] colleagues if they are able to [51:15] join us. [51:16] I'll give. [51:18] And I'll give people plenty [51:18] of notice. [51:21] Um, but I think cassandra [51:22] cassandra is going to join [51:23] me and ride over with me. [51:24] Yeah. [51:25] >> over to newton. [51:26] Then we're going to go to one [51:28] of those ice cream places after [51:29] I think so, yeah. [51:30] Oh, my. [51:32] >> uh my colleagues are, um, [51:33] welcome to join us. [51:35] Um, next up is council weber. [51:36] Council weber. [51:37] You have the floor. [51:39] Okay. [51:40] >> thank you very much. [51:40] Uh. [51:42] Nice to see the panelists. [51:45] Um, uh, and I see bill. [51:47] But cassandra, like bill was [51:49] talking about, you know, he, [51:51] uh, other cities and you know, [51:52] he knows what's going on here. [51:55] Uh, is there is there another [51:57] city you know, in the country [51:58] somewhere else that we should [52:01] be looking to for, you know, [52:03] how to approach these issues as [52:03] somebody? [52:07] Uh, other cities that we [52:07] should. [52:11] Look into for like I would say [52:17] minneapolis minneapolis has uh [52:20] ,very how do I say? [52:26] They can be an example of how [52:26] to. [52:27] Make sure. [52:32] A city can be as accessible as [52:34] possible, especially the [52:36] southeast minneapolis area. [52:39] Uh, audible pedestrian signals. [52:46] Um, a lot of infrastructure [52:47] accessibility in many ways. [52:50] But it has been a while since I [52:51] had last visited minneapolis. [52:56] Um, but when I went there I [52:57] found it to be pretty cool. [52:58] Like well. [52:59] >> not. [52:59] cool but. [53:00] >> like. [53:01] Be accessible because I was [53:04] there at a training center for [53:07] the blind at the time and. [53:08] It was. [53:11] Pretty easy to navigate. [53:15] And though every city is not [53:18] perfect but I kind of was [53:21] wishing that minneapolis and [53:21] massachusetts could trade. [53:24] Resources in a way. [53:26] Mhm. [53:27] >> if that answers. [53:28] >> your yeah yeah. [53:29] No that's that's good. [53:31] Uh I have the I don't know if [53:31] the. [53:35] Current former the city [53:36] councilor for minneapolis on on [53:36] speed dial uh we. [53:37] Were in. [53:39] >> touch during this. [53:42] Tour so uh I can I can give him [53:43] a call and and see what they're [53:44] doing there. [53:45] Great. [53:45] Uh, yeah. [53:45] Bill. [53:47] City council member to [53:48] interrupt you since you're [53:49] going to make that phone call. [53:52] Minneapolis is one of the [53:54] cities that runs pilot projects [53:56] for the open mobility [53:57] foundation that I mentioned [53:57] earlier. [53:58] I want. [53:59] >> to ask. [54:00] >> him or. [54:02] Her what their involvement is [54:05] with the military foundation. [54:06] It's a nonprofit. [54:08] In cities. [54:10] Across the world belong. [54:12] To it and that includes. [54:13] Boston, massachusetts. [54:16] Good question to ask them. [54:18] Thanks for bringing. [54:19] >> up minneapolis. [54:20] oh yeah. [54:21] Minneapolis is one of those [54:22] special cities for me. [54:23] Mhm. [54:24] >> okay yeah I've been there. [54:26] Uh I went to law school in iowa [54:27] so took some trips up to [54:29] minneapolis is really [54:31] interesting city and uh yeah I [54:32] can't wait to reach out. [54:35] Um uh so I guess cassandra, you [54:37] also mentioned uh, concurrent [54:40] lighting and as the chair [54:41] mentioned, you know, we filed [54:42] uh resolution I think at least [54:44] one that you know, we we voted [54:46] in favor of of getting rid [54:48] of them in the city and the [54:50] reason why one of the reasons [54:52] why I support it is because [54:53] right in my district on hyde [54:55] park ave uh, where I think you [54:57] you made your video this winter [54:59] and tower uh, glen ingram was [55:01] killed by a bus on a concurrent [55:03] light and and so he was [55:04] crossing in a green a couple [55:05] of years ago. [55:07] Um, I mean, we heard from the [55:08] chief of streets we asked him [55:10] the I think I think the chair [55:12] asked him about concurrent [55:13] lights and I think the response [55:16] was if we if we did a blanket [55:17] concurrent light ban across the [55:19] whole city, it would cause a [55:21] lot of a lot more traffic, a [55:23] lot more, you know, a lot [55:24] of some insurmountable issues. [55:25] Is there I guess my question [55:28] for you is is there a way to do [55:30] it in a targeted way where we [55:32] create zones where there's no [55:34] concurrent lights or are you [55:36] just thinking would you just [55:38] want you know, the entire city [55:40] just to ban them from one side [55:40] to the other? [55:43] My thing is I would ask this [55:45] person what do they think is [55:48] more important the safety of a [55:48] person. [55:50] On the street. [55:55] Walking around or a car stuck [55:55] in traffic? [56:00] You know the person they just [56:02] need a couple of seconds extra [56:03] to cross the road. [56:05] The car could always get to [56:08] their destination a lot faster [56:08] than a person. [56:12] So it's like I mean I've never [56:14] I've never driven in my life [56:14] before. [56:16] I've always been living with [56:17] blindness and deafness together [56:18] . [56:21] So I don't know what the [56:23] urgency is to be behind the [56:27] wheel and want to rush through [56:28] even with someone trying to [56:29] cross. [56:31] I've always been the pedestrian [56:35] but maybe some of the most [56:39] active or highly um trafficked [56:41] spots in the city could have no [56:45] concurrent street crossings and [56:47] as it might just get rid of it. [56:48] >> just get rid of it. [56:48] Okay? [56:49] >> just just take it out. [56:50] Yeah. [56:50] Take it out. [56:51] Okay. [56:51] It's okay. [56:52] They can stand in the traffic [56:54] light a little bit longer. [56:55] They have air conditioning in [56:55] their car. [56:57] They have a heater in their [56:57] car. [56:59] The pedestrians are exposed to [57:00] the heat and the cold. [57:00] They'll be fine. [57:02] So sounds good. [57:03] Uh. [57:04] And I just take. [57:04] >> it off. [57:04] Yeah. [57:05] >> okay. [57:06] >> bill, you got your hand up. [57:07] You know. [57:09] >> as a person who used to be [57:10] able to drive. [57:13] And I. [57:14] Lived on one spot street and [57:15] now I'm. [57:17] Just watching center street, I [57:19] think to myself I used to drive [57:20] on that road. [57:20] What am I. [57:22] >> what am I crazy? [57:23] Okay. [57:25] And that's that's before and [57:26] after the road diet. [57:29] So since you brought it up, how [57:31] about doing a pilot project in [57:31] west roxbury? [57:33] You've already got road diet. [57:34] You still got problems. [57:38] I know it's still a big issue [57:39] for you as a city councilor, [57:41] but you got the bike riders who [57:43] are here in full force and then [57:44] . [57:44] >> MARCH. [57:47] Pick a neighborhood, pick a [57:48] street. [57:49] What they're don't. [57:52] Pick the street he wants to do [57:52] the pilot. [57:52] Project is. [57:55] It's dangerous out there. [57:57] You know. [58:01] The question is how many [58:02] fathers are going to get killed [58:04] with a stroller with a three [58:07] year old and I'm and I know I'm [58:08] being very blunt and very [58:08] direct. [58:09] How long. [58:11] >> is it going to take for [58:12] another adult to get killed on [58:14] the streets of summer street in [58:14] west roxbury? [58:16] That happened a few years ago. [58:18] I almost got killed crossing. [58:19] Center street. [58:21] A few years ago when I still [58:22] had I was not legally blind. [58:26] how many deaths? [58:28] It's a kind of take for that [58:31] person to wake up and have a [58:32] pilot project. [58:34] And I know I'm in your face and [58:37] I'm being direct I don't care I [58:38] don't want another person to [58:39] get killed on the streets [58:42] of boston because you got [58:43] concurrent things. [58:45] You got drones that don't work [58:47] about lighting on one side [58:48] there's a button on the other [58:49] side there's nothing. [58:52] I've walked center street from [58:53] roach brothers all the way to [58:55] the fight in the hospital more [58:56] than once. [58:58] I live about a mile away. [59:00] You want to come on a walk with [59:02] me to center street anytime, [59:02] anyplace? [59:05] Okay, I think thanks, but I see [59:06] my time is up. [59:08] I just have one quick follow up [59:09] bill. [59:10] This is free for you. [59:12] Uh, and I waited till my time [59:14] was up, so we just a short and [59:15] I'll try not to. [59:16] Be long. [59:18] Well, no, not yet, but just I [59:20] know you'd be advocated for [59:21] accessibility at the libraries [59:21] . [59:22] I can. [59:23] Answer that question more. [59:24] Okay. [59:25] >> but what. [59:26] >> I will tell you is ask [59:27] kristen mccosh that question. [59:29] Okay. [59:31] >> so it's something we need to [59:32] follow up on. [59:32] Yeah. [59:33] >> you want to have a [59:34] conversation with me later? [59:34] Absolutely. [59:36] >> let's go to the west roxbury [59:37] library someday. [59:39] and let's go to the. [59:42] Central library and read all [59:44] you city councilors read what's [59:46] on the library's website today [59:46] about accessibility. [59:50] You might be surprised what it [59:52] says good and bad. [59:55] That's an issue. [59:57] I will tell you this. [59:59] The library's trying to improve [59:59] it. [1:00:02] I'm really working hard at it [1:00:03] but they've had pitfalls. [1:00:05] You're going to spend the [1:00:05] money. [1:00:07] It always comes down to the [1:00:07] money. [1:00:10] Is the city going to give the [1:00:12] boston public library the money [1:00:14] to be the best library in the [1:00:15] world too? [1:00:17] Well, I suggest you take a look [1:00:18] at what seattle does. [1:00:21] Seattle has approximately the [1:00:23] same size population as the [1:00:23] city of boston. [1:00:26] Both cities are under 700,000 [1:00:27] and residents. [1:00:33] Okay. [1:00:34] >> okay. [1:00:34] Yeah. [1:00:34] Thanks, bill. [1:00:35] You're welcome. [1:00:37] Look forward to seeing you in [1:00:38] west roxbury and, uh. [1:00:38] Um. [1:00:40] I still cruise the streets [1:00:41] of center street at least once [1:00:42] a month. [1:00:44] Yeah, well, uh, send me a text [1:00:46] message when you're there on [1:00:47] me on the street. [1:00:47] Um, okay. [1:00:49] Uh, thanks a lot, chair. [1:00:51] Thank you. [1:00:52] Council member. [1:00:54] I'll also take take six [1:00:55] minutes. [1:00:55] Um. [1:00:59] I'll set the clock now for [1:01:00] myself as well. [1:01:05] Thank you, bill and thank you. [1:01:08] Uh, cassandra for again for [1:01:09] being here for the important [1:01:11] testimony you are providing but [1:01:14] also your incredible leadership [1:01:17] on civil rights issues. [1:01:19] Supporting persons with [1:01:21] disabilities and supporting our [1:01:22] seniors. [1:01:25] Ensuring our open spaces spaces [1:01:26] throughout the city [1:01:28] commonwealth are accessible. [1:01:32] Disability rights are civil [1:01:32] rights. [1:01:34] Um. [1:01:41] Cassandra, I know you spoke [1:01:42] eloquently at the beginning [1:01:45] about concurrent street [1:01:47] crossing lighting and we [1:01:50] continue the conversation and I [1:01:53] agree with everything you said [1:01:55] both with both the pedestrian [1:01:57] and the vehicle can't have the [1:01:59] right of way at the same time. [1:02:03] It's it's really to me it's [1:02:06] really about respect for the [1:02:07] pedestrian respect for the [1:02:09] person with disability, respect [1:02:12] for our senior citizens or a [1:02:13] parent taking their little kid [1:02:16] across the street in the in the [1:02:16] crosswalk. [1:02:17] Um. [1:02:25] So on that note I, I was at a [1:02:27] location and there was a there [1:02:29] was a guy that was driving a [1:02:32] car and he had on new york [1:02:35] license plate and he was making [1:02:37] the turn at the same time when [1:02:38] people were trying to cross. [1:02:40] Him and. [1:02:44] He he almost missed them. [1:02:47] He was about 1ft or 2ft away [1:02:48] from the person in the [1:02:49] crosswalk. [1:02:52] And I said to him, um, you [1:02:53] know, you have to let the [1:02:54] people by cross. [1:02:57] He said he said to me he didn't [1:02:58] know me. [1:02:58] I didn't know him. [1:03:00] He said, well why do you have [1:03:02] but the light he had the right [1:03:04] of way which he does have the [1:03:04] right of way. [1:03:07] Um he said I have the right. [1:03:09] And I said, well, you do have [1:03:11] the right of way but so does [1:03:12] not the pedestrian. [1:03:15] And he said, well this is my [1:03:16] first time here. [1:03:17] How do I how do I know that. [1:03:17] Mhm. [1:03:19] >> well now he knows but. [1:03:21] But now he knows that's that's [1:03:22] right but what about someone [1:03:25] else that doesn't know the city [1:03:26] that doesn't know that [1:03:30] particular intersection and [1:03:32] they're they're they're making [1:03:34] the right turn at the same time [1:03:35] pedestrians are crossing. [1:03:38] Um but it's really not that [1:03:40] person's fault because they [1:03:41] really don't know the [1:03:42] neighborhood. [1:03:44] They don't know the lighting [1:03:45] and I'm not I'm not here to [1:03:46] blame anybody. [1:03:49] But why can't we come together [1:03:50] ? [1:03:53] Acknowledge that it is a public [1:03:55] safety problem that we have in [1:03:56] the city. [1:04:00] And if the if they're not going [1:04:02] to make change here at city [1:04:04] hall, I do believe we might [1:04:06] have to make change in the [1:04:07] court system. [1:04:09] Absolutely because I don't [1:04:11] think I don't think the chief [1:04:12] of streets is going to make the [1:04:12] change for us. [1:04:14] I've asked them a bunch [1:04:14] of times. [1:04:16] My city council colleagues have [1:04:17] asked them as well. [1:04:18] They're not going to make the [1:04:19] change. [1:04:20] um. [1:04:23] >> but but do you think we can [1:04:23] bring this to court? [1:04:25] That's my question. [1:04:27] Um, I would like to ask one [1:04:28] question first. [1:04:28] Sure. [1:04:29] Go ahead. [1:04:30] Is the chief of street even [1:04:31] from boston? [1:04:35] Like do they live in the [1:04:36] perimeters of the area to even [1:04:38] see this themselves? [1:04:40] I think I think every [1:04:42] department head is required to [1:04:43] live in the city. [1:04:43] Okay, good. [1:04:49] And then the other part is yes [1:04:51] it needs to be escalated to a [1:04:51] higher level. [1:04:54] We've already tried everything [1:04:55] we could to reason with them. [1:04:58] We've done the best we could to [1:05:00] reason to make sure the [1:05:02] pedestrians are safe, but they [1:05:06] don't want to, you know, make [1:05:09] that simple gesture to be like [1:05:09] okay, cool. [1:05:11] Pedestrians are important too. [1:05:13] And not just the drivers. [1:05:14] Yes. [1:05:18] So without any further just [1:05:19] just let's just go to the next [1:05:20] level with it. [1:05:23] Yeah I am concerned the longer [1:05:25] we wait the likelihood that [1:05:27] there could be another accident [1:05:27] . [1:05:29] We want to stop that. [1:05:30] That's exactly right. [1:05:31] You're exactly right. [1:05:33] We want to stop it before it [1:05:33] gets worse. [1:05:36] And what happens if it's a [1:05:38] child in the crosswalk? [1:05:40] Um, what happens if it's a [1:05:41] senior citizen? [1:05:43] What happens if it's a person [1:05:44] in a wheelchair? [1:05:46] What happens if it's anybody? [1:05:48] it's a preventable situation [1:05:51] that could have been avoided [1:05:53] and that needs to be addressed [1:05:54] immediately. [1:05:55] Like as soon as possible [1:05:56] hopefully before the end [1:05:59] of this year to take them to [1:06:01] court for it if if it's even [1:06:02] possible. [1:06:06] And if possible me and bob can [1:06:08] go along and certainly well to [1:06:08] the court. [1:06:09] Yeah. [1:06:11] Yeah. [1:06:13] Let's go to court and make sure [1:06:15] you know pedestrians lives [1:06:16] matter to. [1:06:18] Yeah I agree I don't I don't [1:06:20] think anyone really wants to go [1:06:20] to court. [1:06:22] I think that's our last option [1:06:22] . [1:06:24] But I don't like you cassandra [1:06:25] . [1:06:28] I don't want to wait until an [1:06:29] accident happens again. [1:06:33] Um, I know there have been [1:06:34] several deaths in the city [1:06:35] of boston because of this. [1:06:36] Yeah. [1:06:37] Um. [1:06:39] >> concurrent jurisdiction, [1:06:40] street lighting related issue. [1:06:45] Um, but my time is almost up. [1:06:50] Um, let me let me just ask one [1:06:51] final question. [1:06:52] I'm going to I'm going to shut [1:06:54] off the, um, the clock in one [1:06:54] second. [1:06:55] It's about two. [1:06:56] It's about one. [1:06:56] Um. [1:07:00] So one issue that I've I've [1:07:04] focused on along for a while is [1:07:07] the lift for peop for people in [1:07:10] wheelchairs on the on the third [1:07:12] floor the entrance to the third [1:07:14] floor on city council. [1:07:17] Um the plaza area when you're [1:07:20] going in where the bricks and [1:07:21] you go through the security and [1:07:24] you kind of go around uh past [1:07:25] the elevators in there's the [1:07:27] lift that will bring you up to [1:07:29] the mezzanine with it's a lot [1:07:31] of kind of civic events. [1:07:34] I don't believe that area is [1:07:37] necessarily accessible to [1:07:38] persons with disabilities. [1:07:39] Yes, we do have a lift. [1:07:45] Um, but it can be challenging. [1:07:48] I know, I know many people have [1:07:51] not used the lift um, for for [1:07:55] various reasons but I am [1:07:56] uncomfortable at that [1:07:58] particular area of city hall [1:07:59] and I love I love this building [1:08:01] but I am uncomfortable with [1:08:04] that part of the building [1:08:06] because I feel it is not [1:08:08] accessible to persons with [1:08:10] disabilities and seniors. [1:08:10] Mhm. [1:08:13] Seniors also trying to walk up [1:08:16] the stairs coming from the [1:08:17] third floor senate plaza. [1:08:18] Very challenging. [1:08:21] Very very difficult. [1:08:23] Also the hand railings if you [1:08:25] notice the hand railings are [1:08:27] kind of awkward and they're [1:08:30] almost in the center the center [1:08:33] of the of the brick stairs. [1:08:34] They're not laid out properly [1:08:35] and in my opinion. [1:08:37] I do want us to. [1:08:42] Study on how we can make it [1:08:42] more accessible. [1:08:45] But bill I think you wanted to [1:08:46] speak and want to give you the [1:08:47] opportunity because I'm I'm out [1:08:48] of time. [1:08:49] But bill, you have the floor. [1:08:53] I actually visited the third [1:08:54] floor last friday. [1:08:57] There's a wonderful volunteer [1:08:58] is only there on fridays. [1:09:00] His name is jerry. [1:09:02] He probably knows the building [1:09:03] better than all of us. [1:09:05] according to one of the [1:09:07] volunteers that was there [1:09:07] today. [1:09:10] He did bring me to the lift. [1:09:13] He said you just have to have [1:09:15] security or volunteer help you [1:09:16] to open it to go on. [1:09:18] I didn't do it. [1:09:20] So I can't address them. [1:09:21] I will talk about the railings [1:09:22] across the city hall. [1:09:25] I brought that up when we did [1:09:26] the walkthrough earlier this [1:09:26] year. [1:09:29] A lot of the rail, all the [1:09:30] railings, a rectangle. [1:09:34] Why not have a round look? [1:09:37] Are canes easy to handle? [1:09:40] Now there is a problem with [1:09:42] city hall and it looks [1:09:42] beautiful. [1:09:47] The stairs are nice and shiny [1:09:47] foyer. [1:09:49] I think they are dangerous now [1:09:50] that I'm legally blind but to [1:09:52] my side people dangerous from [1:09:56] the beginning even more so I [1:09:59] think I walk very slowly up and [1:10:00] down those stairs and I can [1:10:03] demonstrate to you folks how I [1:10:04] was taught at the college [1:10:05] center for the blind by a [1:10:06] wonderful mobility trainer [1:10:07] named augustine. [1:10:09] Yeah, I'm giving him a plug. [1:10:12] He saved my life a number [1:10:13] of times recently through his [1:10:16] training and I can demonstrate [1:10:19] to you after this how I was [1:10:23] taught to navigate crosswalks [1:10:25] that don't have these systems. [1:10:28] It's very interesting to watch [1:10:30] the traffic stop because [1:10:31] of what I was taught. [1:10:33] All the railings in this [1:10:35] building need to be changed [1:10:37] very expensive but they'll be [1:10:39] safer for the seniors who come [1:10:41] to this building actually [1:10:41] anybody. [1:10:42] mhm. [1:10:45] Because they're not rectangle [1:10:46] round you know round. [1:10:51] I will in closing thank [1:10:53] commissioner mccosh because she [1:10:55] and I she addressed a very [1:10:56] serious question I had about [1:10:57] the new elevator. [1:11:00] There were buildings in the [1:11:02] city commercial buildings. [1:11:04] They don't have the button [1:11:05] panel anymore on the elevator. [1:11:07] Everything is video monitored. [1:11:10] Thank GOD for security when I [1:11:11] was doing work two years ago [1:11:14] when this he put area [1:11:16] commissioners was the cautious [1:11:16] response was wonderful. [1:11:19] She said I'm not going to quote [1:11:20] to paraphrase. [1:11:23] There will be no video monitors [1:11:24] in the elevators in this [1:11:25] building. [1:11:27] Thank you, commissioner mccosh [1:11:28] for being that clear. [1:11:31] Well thank you bill. [1:11:32] Thank you cassandra. [1:11:36] Um, my time is up. [1:11:40] I do want to give my colleagues [1:11:42] an opportunity if they want to [1:11:44] have a closing statement, but I [1:11:46] do want to give an opportunity [1:11:47] for cassandra and bill. [1:11:50] Um, give you the opportunity as [1:11:50] well. [1:11:52] If you'd like to give a closing [1:11:53] statement. [1:11:54] You're ready. [1:11:55] Um, first. [1:11:56] Let okay. [1:12:01] Let me ask, um, councilor weber [1:12:01] . [1:12:02] No. [1:12:02] I'm sorry. [1:12:03] I'm sorry. [1:12:04] Council shouldn't. [1:12:06] I'm going to give my colleagues [1:12:07] two minutes for closing [1:12:07] statement. [1:12:10] Um, and then and then I'm going [1:12:12] to give both of you, um, an [1:12:13] opportunity to give the closing [1:12:14] statement as well. [1:12:17] So council louijeune you have [1:12:17] the floor. [1:12:18] Thank you. [1:12:18] >> I'll be brief. [1:12:19] >> I want to thank you, bill, [1:12:21] for your advocacy and for being [1:12:21] here. [1:12:23] I want to thank you, of course, [1:12:24] cassandra, for all the work [1:12:25] that you do put your travel [1:12:26] fella to be the boss on. [1:12:27] Really appreciate it. [1:12:29] Um, and we obviously bill made [1:12:31] it clear cassandra made it [1:12:32] clear that the city has a lot [1:12:33] more work to do and look [1:12:33] forward to. [1:12:35] You know, it would be great to [1:12:36] hear from the disability [1:12:37] commission or from the [1:12:38] administration about their [1:12:39] efforts to see sort of where [1:12:41] they go down the street from [1:12:42] their perspective sort of why [1:12:43] we are lagging behind so much. [1:12:47] But um, I, I know like I stated [1:12:48] that even in my neighborhood on [1:12:49] my street there are [1:12:50] accessibility major [1:12:52] accessibility issues that I [1:12:53] want uh, to help solve in the [1:12:54] city. [1:12:55] So thank you for your work. [1:12:56] Uh, I want to give another big [1:12:58] shout out to the workers at [1:12:59] national bill press for all [1:13:00] that they do. [1:13:00] For. [1:13:02] >> uh, all of our communities [1:13:03] and especially those who. [1:13:04] Are blind. [1:13:04] Thank you. [1:13:06] Thank you. [1:13:07] >> thank you, [1:13:08] councilor louijeune. [1:13:12] I want to give council weber [1:13:14] the opportunity to give a [1:13:16] closing closing statement as [1:13:16] well. [1:13:17] Um. [1:13:18] Two minutes, consul weber. [1:13:18] Okay. [1:13:19] Thank you. [1:13:20] Thank you very much. [1:13:22] Uh, cassandra and bill, it [1:13:24] just, uh it's it's great to see [1:13:24] you here. [1:13:27] Uh, and I, you know, hope you [1:13:29] realize how much of a [1:13:30] difference your advocacy makes [1:13:32] for people in this city. [1:13:35] Uh, you know, it's like you you [1:13:36] really elevate this issue and [1:13:39] we talk about, you know, making [1:13:40] this a priority when we look at [1:13:42] all other kinds of issues. [1:13:44] I know you know myself and the [1:13:46] chair councilor louijeune my [1:13:47] other colleagues will be [1:13:48] thinking about you know, what [1:13:50] you have said today and what [1:13:51] you said in many other hearings [1:13:52] . [1:13:53] Uh, so I just you know. [1:13:54] Your hard work. [1:13:57] Is it's it's it's very valuable [1:13:59] in this city for people who [1:14:01] maybe can't even make it here, [1:14:02] uh, to speak up. [1:14:03] So I just want to thank you. [1:14:04] For for. [1:14:06] Being the folks who who. [1:14:07] You know, highlight this and [1:14:09] elevate this, uh, for us to [1:14:10] sort of taken. [1:14:13] To more with so, uh, I know we [1:14:14] have our marching orders and, [1:14:16] uh, just want to thank you for [1:14:16] being here. [1:14:17] Thanks, chair. [1:14:19] Thank you. [1:14:20] >> council weber. [1:14:25] I checked with, um, shayne. [1:14:28] Uh, we do not have any public [1:14:30] testimony, but before I give a [1:14:32] closing statement, I do want to [1:14:33] say thank you to shane and to [1:14:37] ethan for, uh, conducting, um, [1:14:39] organizing a very helpful [1:14:40] hearing. [1:14:44] Um, well, I'm going to I'm [1:14:45] going to hold off on my closing [1:14:46] statement. [1:14:48] I want to give, um, cassandra [1:14:52] and bill the opportunity to you [1:14:54] to go first and then I'll and [1:14:55] I'll kind of briefly conclude [1:14:56] after the after. [1:14:59] So bill or who would like to go [1:14:59] first. [1:15:00] Because I was. [1:15:01] >> in. [1:15:01] First place. [1:15:02] Okay. [1:15:03] Okay. [1:15:04] >> because cassandra, you have [1:15:05] the floor. [1:15:05] All right. [1:15:08] Um, I would like to say to [1:15:10] everyone thank you for taking [1:15:13] the time to invite us into this [1:15:18] space to, uh, have our voices [1:15:19] be heard. [1:15:19] Um. [1:15:22] >> I consider these [1:15:24] opportunities pretty rare and, [1:15:25] you know, great opportunities [1:15:29] to be heard to be a part of the [1:15:32] progress and advocacy [1:15:33] throughout the commonwealth [1:15:34] of massachusetts. [1:15:37] And it's been a long time [1:15:41] coming for a lot of us to, um, [1:15:44] speak on really important [1:15:45] situations. [1:15:47] Happening and we hope to [1:15:50] continue coming back for more [1:15:51] discussions. [1:15:53] And I hope that what we talked [1:15:56] about today also makes more [1:15:58] progress and we get what we are [1:15:59] looking for so that everyone [1:16:02] can navigate the commonwealth [1:16:03] of massachusetts safely and [1:16:03] comfortably. [1:16:06] Thank you cassandra. [1:16:07] Excellent testimony. [1:16:09] excellent closing statement. [1:16:12] Um, bill, you have the floor. [1:16:13] Thank you. [1:16:17] City council, for and for this [1:16:19] opportunity to come before the [1:16:19] council again. [1:16:23] And the most important thing [1:16:25] for me is I hope you listen. [1:16:28] I hope all the commission had [1:16:30] department heads also listen. [1:16:32] This is real time. [1:16:34] It's not facebook. [1:16:36] It's not instagram. [1:16:39] When I walk out this door and [1:16:42] head for the streets I have no [1:16:42] idea. [1:16:44] But the two of us will be [1:16:46] facing changes every minute. [1:16:50] I thank you for the opportunity [1:16:51] once again. [1:16:54] Any time any place in the city [1:16:55] the district. [1:16:58] Lastly mayor will you're also [1:16:59] invited. [1:17:00] I've been trying for two years. [1:17:02] Hopefully one of your staff [1:17:04] members will respond this time. [1:17:06] Thank you all. [1:17:09] Last thing I think to see is it [1:17:10] has a little secret. [1:17:11] It's a lot of fun. [1:17:13] I found incredible people over [1:17:14] the last six years. [1:17:16] Very lucky. [1:17:18] Wonderful support. [1:17:19] Thank you very much. [1:17:20] Thank you bill. [1:17:25] I'm going to give myself two [1:17:26] minutes as well. [1:17:30] First I want to say thank you [1:17:31] to my city council colleagues [1:17:35] for being here for their [1:17:38] important dialog and input that [1:17:38] they provided. [1:17:41] Excellent questions as well. [1:17:42] I want to say thank you to bill [1:17:46] and cassandra for your advocacy [1:17:47] and for being here as well. [1:17:50] And I think you testimony and [1:17:52] if testified before this [1:17:56] committee many times but it's [1:17:57] important for me it's important [1:18:01] for our colleagues to listen to [1:18:05] you, to hear from you, to [1:18:07] understand what you are going [1:18:09] through and through your life [1:18:11] experience, through your [1:18:11] testimony. [1:18:14] That makes us better count [1:18:16] better city councilors because [1:18:19] we can be more effective in [1:18:21] advocating for persons with [1:18:21] disabilities. [1:18:23] We know. [1:18:27] Disability rights uh, civil [1:18:27] rights. [1:18:29] There's more. [1:18:30] Work we need to do. [1:18:35] As a as a member of the [1:18:36] disability rights community, [1:18:38] I'm an active member of the [1:18:39] disabled american veterans. [1:18:40] Yeah. [1:18:43] >> I do want to say thank you [1:18:45] to you because what you are [1:18:48] advocating for is helping all [1:18:49] persons with disabilities [1:18:51] across the commonwealth, not [1:18:52] just yourself. [1:18:55] You are making life easier, [1:18:58] healthier and more accessible [1:19:00] to so many more people. [1:19:02] Whether they're older or [1:19:03] younger. [1:19:04] But you are setting the example [1:19:04] . [1:19:08] For a new generation of persons [1:19:11] with disabilities to advocate [1:19:14] on their behalf to ensure that [1:19:15] they are treated with respect. [1:19:17] They they are treated with [1:19:20] dignity because as we all know [1:19:24] ,disability rights uh civil [1:19:26] rights absolutely. [1:19:27] And we can't do enough for [1:19:29] persons with disabilities in [1:19:29] this city. [1:19:32] We have a lot more work to do [1:19:33] and I'm honored to work with [1:19:37] you to call you friends and [1:19:39] let's keep up the conversation [1:19:40] in advocacy as well. [1:19:42] Absolutely. [1:19:42] >> absolutely. [1:19:43] >> thank you. [1:19:44] >> thank you. [1:19:45] Thank you. [1:19:50] This this hearing on docket [1:19:52] 0335 order for a hearing to [1:19:54] discuss accessibility issues in [1:19:56] boston and boston is concluded. [1:20:00] Marvelous san.