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That's was our whole issue.
>> Uh just a little refresher, I believe it

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was the meeting before July, which would
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» that we all agreed and I think we voted
on it that it would be a reoccurring

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item.
>> I recall that we did the same thing

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» and it wasn't in October [clears throat]
and I think the minutes reflect that the

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city agreed to do it and now it isn't in
January again. I I talked Larry I talked

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Larry you had you and I talked about
this a little bit but uh what was we

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there was an explanation why was it left
off the agenda?

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» Well so I guess my understanding is the
city's waiting for more information to

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give to us. So and a quick thing we
can't really discuss this but I think we

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can we can I think we can do this on the
agenda but quickly what we want to do on

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the proposed agenda. So the last agenda
item is explain we need to start

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thinking about what we need to discuss
as a committee and make sure that we all

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agree that these are items we need to
put on the agenda so we can discuss. We

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don't need to take up the city's time
with them to research things to put to

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panned out. We just need to be able to
talk about them. So, if there's nothing

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the city has new, we still need to be
able to discuss it. Um, but having So, I

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guess as far as this agenda item go,
having more in the minutes, if we've

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asked for it several times, we would
like to see that. I I agree with that.

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So, I think the proposed agenda item, we
can probably talk about this a little

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bit more,
>> right? I think we'll put it on for item

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six to put it on the agenda.
>> Propose we do that. right now. I think

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what might what has been brought up
[clears throat] is the fact that we

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thought that we were supposed to get
some sort of report in our hands

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[snorts] and that hasn't been done and
it I I recall the same thing that we

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[clears throat] should have gotten at
least a report if it was available. So

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is I guess the question at hand is
should the should the meeting notes I

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think the meeting notes need to be re
relooked at and up draw up to date to

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make sure that they're correct.
And then [clears throat] if there is a

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report available, we need to get a
recopy of that report to read

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» you feel like.
>> So we can discuss that further in item

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six, but for item one um we just need to
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meeting's minutes.
>> Well, can we take a vote to that?

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» I that's the issue is the minutes are
incorrect.

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» Um one of the issue with the minutes.
>> All right. I'm gonna ask for approval of

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the minutes and if we approve them,
they'll be done with them. If not, they

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don't get approved, then we'll have to
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[clears throat]
>> If we don't approve them, if we don't

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approve them, they'll have to be for for
reasons, right? We'll have to come up

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with the reasons why. And Mike and we've
already he's reiterated already what why

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we're not going to approve them if
that's the case. And then we just need

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to have them re revamped, I suppose,
right?

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Well, I think um one of the things
[clears throat] that we need to look at

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is is they're not I think the I'm not
sure the minutes are wrong as they're

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just incomplete. And in the past, we
weren't I don't believe we were able to

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modify incomplete. You had to you had to
say this was incorrect or I needed to

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make sure to clarify. So, it's Randy
talking, right?

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» Yeah. Uh yeah.
>> Okay. Okay. So, Randy, I think the issue

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is is is I I can agree with you in that
we we did discuss certain things and

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certain things were not in the minutes
as clear as they should be, but since

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it's even harder on the minute on the
video to try to go through is probably

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unless you have something that you can
state to say we would want this changed

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to that's what I believe we've done in
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» I have a compromise
>> probably just as easy to to approve it.

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Now, if you've got a comment and you say
you want to go to section such and such

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and you want to add that, that's
probably the best way and we can say we

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can approve the minutes based on these
changes because if we ask them to go

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back and modify it, it's going, you
know, there's really you're you're going

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to have to try to meet with the city to
to try to figure out how to do it. Um,

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and to my knowledge, that hasn't been an
easy task. So I think the easiest thing

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to do would be to say add your comments
to the agenda and ask it to be approved

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with those comments. That's right reason
I interrupted the approval process.

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» Well, I have a compromise
if I could. Um

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I I'm willing to accept the meeting
minutes. Um, but I would I I know last

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time you guys allowed us to speak a
little bit about the effluent study on

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another agenda item. And if we could do
that and if we could also

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uh have a vote on apply on making it a
reoccurring item on the agenda so we can

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be kept informed. Do that today.
>> I think I'd do that on six.

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» Yeah, [clears throat and cough] if we
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don't have to change the minutes.
>> Well, to me it looks like it was we did

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that last time,
>> right?

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» Oh, it was done
>> the way the way it reads even

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» it was already been done, but the city
doesn't recognize it for some

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[clears throat] reason.
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» Well, let's let's Okay, we need to then
I think what we need is a motion.

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» We can bring this up as agenda item on
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» as long as we can talk about it.
>> And [clears throat] we won't be able to

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talk about it today because it's not on
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» Well, we did it last meeting. Well, they
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have kind of circumvented the rules a
little over there.

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» Well, I think we allowed it to on your
report. It was part of the uh

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» I think we can get to it in the water
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» Yeah. I mean, I think we could talk
about it. I mean, we did last time and

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you guys allowed it. Director St. If we
can do it, we should be able to do it

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underneath the water.
>> Sure.

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» The water report
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» under item number three. Correct.
>> All right. Let's do that. I'm good. I'm

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for that, guys. Ready?
>> Okay. Well, let's have a motion then to

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approve the meetings for [clears throat]
October 1st, 2025.

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» I'll second.
>> All right.

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All those in favor? I
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» I
>> opposed.

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» I
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All right. Passes with all all committee
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» All right. Let's move on to uh item
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[clears throat] possible action for the
utilities 5-year capital improvements

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plan.

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Hello, Angela Maninan, budget manager.
In the packet was the 5-year capital

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improvement plan for utilities. It
hasn't changed since the last time we

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met. Um, we're going to a rate study
which will address cash flow and see how

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much funding is available. So really
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knowing what the rates are going to be
and how much cash we'll have, we really

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have no new information on the 5-year
CIP. But happy to answer any questions.

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» Um I have a question about
[clears throat] under uh under the

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budget here underwater. We have the
vector truck replacement underwater. Is

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that the correct spot for that?
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» Yes, we have two two vector trucks. One
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That's what that's kind of what I
looking through all the different budget

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items. That's what I was wondering, but
I just want to make sure.

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» So, you just have them assigned to each
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» That is Yeah, even though it is one.
>> I understand. I follow.

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» Yep.
>> Okay, I'm good with that. Um,

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I also wanted a little bit of a
clarification on the on [clears throat]

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the uh list station upgrades proposed
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uh 2030 and 2031.
We each got basically a half 500 $5

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million I guess on each one of those
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and is that those are just estimate? I'm
sure those are just estimates. Best

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estimate you can come up with. But, uh,
is there any way that we could upgrade

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one before the other? Are there any
priorities that going to make that move

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up?
[clears throat]

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» Yes, correct. We're working on lift
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» Okay.
>> And then we'll get to the other two. And

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one of the things that I'm diving into
and looking at is a separation of we

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need to do our study our procurement
study year onement year two year three

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construct right or redesign.
>> Okay. That

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» and so there will be I got to I'm diving
into and looking at that.

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» Yeah. Because so then that could be a
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that to probably 2029
>> a little earlier. Yep.

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» Yeah. And then [clears throat] I guess
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funding of those both at the same time.
Is that I mean is they're both failing

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at the same time. I mean is that you're
going to combine that into one project

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or how's that going to how do you think
that eventually will work?

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» And that that is where part of
[clears throat] where I'm looking at and

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it's one of the things we we try to
separate it where we're not doing big

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projects like that.
>> Right. So hopefully we can do a study

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procurement year and then while we're
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three then we can start doing a
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» Refresh my memory. Where's lift station
3 compared to one? Is it they in are

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they working together like one pumps of
three?

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» Yeah. So you got all the way Pacifica's
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» Um you got one over by one's down the
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» Nevada Way and and Boulder City Parkway,
>> right? Uh, three is um, no, excuse me.

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Four was off of Woodacre by Keys. Threes
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» At Pacifica.
>> Yep.

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» Okay. So, three goes to one.
>> It does. And then

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» So, three needs to be done looked at
first and then one capacities

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» and one's newer than the other two. The
other two [clears throat] been around

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for a while.
>> All right. Well, I'll leave that up to

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that. I just be I I like the idea of
looking at that. So, okay. I'm happy

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with those. Anybody else?

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» Any other comments?
>> Yeah, I've got a comment. Um just so I

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think um we just need to make sure. So I
I believe in the study we're looking at

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possibly up to 10 years of financials.
And so I think with the financials we

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we'll see. I think what you were saying,
Howard, also that what I'm hearing too

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is because we look at fiscal year 30 and
fiscal year 31 and those are really

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heavily loaded and so we're going to
have to go a year or two out especially

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in [clears throat] the study so we know
how much can be pushed out. So that

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would be and then the other thing is is
we might in the study make sure that we

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can if there's anything that's in
planning or something can get shipped

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around so we can move substation 4. You
know, that's where some of these things

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like we made a motion so sort of
relating to the minute to also we made a

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motion to that what we felt would be a
good idea for for substation 4 and

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nothing was said anything was said about
that in this package. So it's going to

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be part of the rate project I assume but
um and we'll talk more about how often

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we meet and do that in a minute but
these are there's a lot of data that we

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have to go through. We just have to make
sure we figure out how we get to it.

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» Okay.
Any other comments?

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» All right.
>> Thank [clears throat and cough] you.

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» All right. Thank you. All right. Let's
move on to item three. Uh update from uh

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acting utilities director PO Dctor
regarding water and power consumptions.

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This is for information only.
>> [clears throat]

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» C
>> could I make a comment real quick before

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you start? I I looked at my package. I
didn't have anything on power. Did you

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mean to not put anything out? It was
just on water

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» on the graphs or on
>> Yeah,

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» Josh. I'm just There was a There was a
link in the staff report. There's a

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link.
>> Did I miss the link?

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» Yeah, the link The link was
>> The link [clears throat]

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» Holly is able to pull it up if um if you
want.

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» No, that's all right. I just thought I
wanted to make sure it was me then.

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Yeah, it's right it's right down here on
>> Okay, I missed that. Thank you.

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» All right. Uh Gary Poenixter, public
works director, acting utilities

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director. Give you a quick u overview of
the uh

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for the uh excuse me, the demand. So, we
got the electric demand decreased uh

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38.5%
from 40.61 61 megawws in September 2025

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to 2498 megawatts in October 2025.
November's peak demand further declined

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to 2405 megawatts represented 3.7
decrease in October. These reductions

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are typical as the cooler months
temperatures occur during the winter

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months. Our water deliveries continue to
decline throughout all fall months.

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September 25 decreased by 22.7
compared to September 24 followed by a

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17.5
decrease in October 25 and 11 decrease

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in November 25. Uh water deliveries in
2025 were nearly 4% lower and than the

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prior year and these reductions are
attributed to cooler weather and the

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city's ongoing conservation e efforts.
Um now so part of number three is

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discussion item. I know you mentioned on
the affluent side. Um, and

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we could it is for this is more
offormational on item three, but we want

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to give a quick where we're at.
>> Yes. So, for the item, uh, you want to

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discuss, uh, Randy?
>> Yes.

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» Um, we plan on, uh, meeting with you
guys individually to educate you on this

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whole process and the history of it. Um,
but as far as any updates, there aren't

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any. We were like, like we told you last
time, we received the report from uh

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SNWA. We um sent our feedback back to
them and we are just awaiting to see

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what's next. Uh I I followed up with um
SNWA uh recently in December to get any

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updates and I haven't heard anything
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what's next in this process.
>> When did you send the re the your your

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comments out? Do you know how long ago?
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last week of December
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had already been sent out I thought in
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» Are you saying are you saying the
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» the comments for the cost estimates?
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when did I follow up? Uh we receive I
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that.
>> Yeah, I think it was he had said they

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had already sent back. So
>> No, no, they weren't sent back. We

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didn't receive anything back from
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» Correct.
>> I was just wondering the time frame of

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that. You sent it to them before October
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» I think it was around
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don't remember the exact date.
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or near October or
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sent our comments back to SNWA.
>> Is there any reason why we can't see the

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report or the comments? I mean,
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technical report.
>> Is that a decision you made or they

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made? Is that a decision
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releasing the reporting report or is it
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to see it until it until the comments go
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complete is to my knowledge with all the
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much about at all other than what was in
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Stubix told us but he wasn't real uh I
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relay all that information because it's
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» Correct. Uh once we meet with you guys
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that further as far as sharing the
report and everything. Okay? But we need

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to for now um we're not going to share
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individually, we can talk about that
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» So it's something you don't want to
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share with us. That's
>> we want to make sure we have all the

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right information. Um and we're getting
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we will we're going to put a timeline
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individually if to discuss it more
there's been no direction of not sharing

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it it's more [clears throat] on the
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that is put out there is correct.
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» so we'll we'll we'll be informed on
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if somebody asks we can disseminate some
of that information now that you're

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assured that we got the correct
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» We want to make Yes. Correct. And we
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» that is that would be our goal.
>> Great. Yeah, that would that would I

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would like that.
>> I got to put a timeline together and and

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dive into this stuff and we'll go from
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» Any uh
>> I I have a few more comments on that if

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I could.
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» Um again, I I might be wrong on some of
this stuff, but uh I did a little

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research and uh if I'm wrong, please
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just a short statement

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because this is a a project that's near
and dear to my heart. Um, I've done a

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little research on the cost of the SNWA
turf reduction program and water saved.

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And SNWA put out about $40 million in
2024 to save the equivalent of

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approximately 400 million gallons of
water a year, the amount Boulder City

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dumps in the desert every year. I would
like to know what the study says of ways

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to fix this problem. That is build a
pipeline to Henderson for treatment or

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build a treatment plant in Boulder City,
etc. Whatever that the other um reasons

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are. And the cost so a comparison can be
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reduction program is borne by all SNWA
customers. Asking BC residents to bear

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the cost of any improvements to our
treatment system and not spread the cost

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to all customers seems unreasonable
since we are a small slow growth town

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that doesn't get growth income from
increased users. And by correcting our

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problem, we would save the equivalent of
water that SNWA customers spend $40

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million a year on the turf reduction
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offers offered to pay for and build a
pipeline to ship this water to Henderson

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several years ago and our city council
and mayor with some opposition rejected

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that offer because of concerns of the
pipeline making water available to the

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Elorado Valley and therefore opening the
door for housing in that area. I was

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surprised at the time that some kind of
deal or agreement could have been made

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to prevent this pipeline from starting a
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of the Elorado Valley. A person can draw
their own conclusions why this subject

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is not something that the city or SNWA
likes to talk about or move forward in a

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reasonably quick time frame. Yet, we
continue daily to dump over a million

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gallons of water into the desert instead
of coming up with a way in a reasonable

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time frame to treat and gain credits for
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And again, that's kind of why this is
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I've been following it for a long time
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kind of uh to me kind of disturbing that
we continue to do it. That's why I want

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to become informed and that's why a lot
of people ask me about this and I don't

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have a lot of answers which I think I
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» the fact that we're going to talk about
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» Any questions on the water power?
>> Um I' [clears throat] I'd like to see

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can we have a a table similar table to
your water to the water use to with the

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wastewater flow
>> those a link just Yeah.

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» Yeah. a link would be fine. This shows
the same set of graphs here because I

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think it's important that everybody
understand the amount of differences

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between water use and waste water that's
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so that we can see so you guys
understand the different how much water

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is used for irrigation purposes and how
much is used for consumptive use. I I

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have a I did a little research on that,
too. And I do have a couple things that

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I came up with. Um,
uh, BC disposes [clears throat] in the

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desert about 1.2 million gallons a day
or 4 acre feet a day. That is basically

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residential and commercial down the
drain. And again, if I'm wrong on these

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figures, please let me know. Uh,
landscape and evaporation are extra.

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That comes out to about 400 million
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disposed in the desert. In July, 10% of
our daily usage water goes down the

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drain. Of course, that's our high usage
month, highest. In January, 33% of daily

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[music] usage water goes down the drain.
So, that's probably our least amount of

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uh of uh water use outside of the drain.
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» How much how much did you say was going
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Well, I I I only took July and January.
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of what we use goes down the drain and
could be recycled. I mean I I've done

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the looks at that myself and if you look
at the numbers where if you look at

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monthly flows I did it for like year
2023 but the numbers show that we use

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about roughly about 100 gallons per
person per day which isn't which is what

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should be expected from wastewater
wastewater generation anywhere from 80

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to 100 gallons per person per day. So
those number that's that's what I'm want

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to show. That's why we need to look at
how much do we generate and how much is

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used as irrigation purposes. So I want
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part.
>> Well, that that kind of shows in our

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peak month,
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going to use a heck of a lot,
>> a whole bunch of water,

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» right? And then can you trim that or
whatever? That's going to be the

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discussions I think on what you can do
to reduce those those peaks and from

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June through September. That's Those are
the those are the real real high months.

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You would hope you could somehow keep
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October, November would look like would
be a goal. And that's that's going to

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have be a big mindset of change people's
ideas. Clean green Boulder City is going

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to have to be modified, things like
that. So that's a whole cultural issue

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that's going to have to be changed.
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» well I think if you don't
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the process here. So I think this that
this helps with this agenda item I think

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as we go through. So and we'll get to
the rate and we'll get to the um to the

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agenda item and try to figure more
things out. But there again this is just

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there's a lot of data that we have to
understand and go through just to

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understand for future stuff but also for
the this rate process so we can get the

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best understanding and work for the
future and get the future aligned in the

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most efficient way we can. So we need to
look at water um who's using what how

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much we're being charged for etc. We
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Gary, I it's a question. Do we do we
know how we're falling in with the in

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the budget for the power? Are we online
or have we um how is the power cost this

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year? Do you have any idea or Josh that
are we in sh good shape or or did we or

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are they up a little bit again?
>> No, it's market prices. the as far as

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the power prices, those are
predetermined by SSEA like um we we pay

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what's budgeted for the fiscal year and
we pay we pay what was budgeted. As far

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as the budget versus actual on our usage
um I can get those numbers but I don't

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have them presently because SSEA they
lost a lot of personnel so their

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reporting has been delayed.
>> Oh great that's something we definitely

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need for the rate process. we need to.
So I guess what I'm back to make sure

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I'm saying is we got water, we got power
and we have sewer and all those things

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or we have to understand and so one more
thing we can't really discuss this issue

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but I'm just going to make a comment
just like you did Randy in that one of

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the reasons that there was a problem
with the we need to talk about this more

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that's why we have to have a agenda
item. One of the problems with the

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Henderson one was most of us understood
there was at least a million dollars at

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least a million dollars a year in the
future that had to be paid to to

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Henderson to to uh um
work with the water. Sorry for lack of a

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better word um for them to to to uh
process the water. So those are one of

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the things but that's why it's
important. So, and so in the agenda item

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and and numbers on numbers our last item
again, we want to talk about we're going

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to have to have additional meetings
because there's just so much data to go

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through that we you sort of need to
think about maybe people need to go back

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and figure out, okay, how long is this
going to take just to talk about these

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different items? You're talking about
water, you're talking about power,

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you're talking about sewer. Each one of
them has its own time frame and each one

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has a needs to be fully vented. Well,
needs to be discussed in the rate

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process.
>> I think you as you mentioned, let's get

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that properly agendaized and bring it up
at a future

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uh meeting whether we schedule a special
meeting once we have all the correct

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information.
>> Yeah, we we need to look at we need to

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see the report. You know, I I think
we're flying blind if we don't have to

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report. So,
>> Right. Right. But I think what I'm

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saying here as far as this
[clears throat] agenda item going, we're

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we're seeing a certain amount of data
with water and power and but with this

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rate process, we need this is an
opportunity to try to get a better

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understanding of what like Ry's trying
to get out in the sewer, but we need

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that in power. We need that in water. We
need to understand how things are

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shifting. So, um, the reason I'm using
this agenda item is because we're

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talking about water and power. Now,
we're going to have to put it probably

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in another agenda item in another
meeting, but it's not going to be You

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can't have one meeting to discuss what
everybody's talking about now.

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So, I'm sorry. We'll push that off till
later. You're correct, Gary.

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» Well, we have to. So, all right. Any
other comments?

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» Um, I have a few. Um

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» um we talked about last meeting about um
this uh new peak power usage increase

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that Nevada Power put through. Um and we
were supposed to discuss it at the last

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meeting. I talked about at the beginning
and I just totally spaced it out. So I I

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don't know how much you know about it.
uh

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» to see what Josh
>> uh I I it would be nice if we got a kind

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of an overview from you guys just a
quick overview on how how they do it and

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if it's something that we can do or is
that something we could discuss on this

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agenda item?
>> Uh we can discuss it on this agenda

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item, but I don't have enough
information at this time to discuss it.

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I remember when we talked about it last
time, we were supposed to talk about it

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again, but there just hasn't haven't
been any updates with it at this time.

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So there there's not much to talk about
and I'll have to dig into it a little

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bit more.
>> Do you guys know much about it or

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» I personally don't know much about it as
of now. I I know I know of it but I

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don't know it at a deep level.
>> So maybe we can discuss it next meeting.

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» So what are we doing there for what?
>> Can you can you repeat that again Randy?

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What what you're Nevada Power? It was in
the newspaper and that's where I got my

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information that uh Nevada Power has a
new program where they're going to

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charge uh a fee for peak usage. The
higher your peak usage is, the more

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they're going to charge you. It's going
to be a search charge of some sort. And

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a lot of people were against it. Um, and
I just wondered I I understand why

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they're doing it because they cost them
so much for peak usage and they want to

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try to reduce it uh and try to force
their customers to be more cautious when

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they turn on their washing machine and
their dishwasher at 12 in the afternoon

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in July. So, I understand it, but I
didn't it didn't give a lot of detail.

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And of course, I I wonder if it would be
a good thing for Boulder City as a

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utility to do the same thing. So, I just
wanted a little more information on it.

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Uh uh if it's feasible for Boulder City
and uh um what you guys thought about

405
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,640
it. So, that was
>> Yeah, like I said, we don't have much

406
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,559
information on it right now because um
we're our own utility. We don't do uh

407
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:40,640
necessarily what uh Envy Energy does,
but we are about to go through a rate

408
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,600
study and throughout that process. Um
we'll we'll be left with a lot of

409
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,880
options and maybe that might be an
option.

410
00:29:43,919 --> 00:29:47,840
» Yeah, that might be something we could
talk about with the rate study. But I

411
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,919
think it'd be nice to know what they're
proposing so we can

412
00:29:50,399 --> 00:29:55,120
understand what we're up against.
>> Again, it's just what I read and it said

413
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,799
that they're if you use [clears throat]
so many kilowatt hours over a certain

414
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,399
amount, they're going to charge you a
sir charge every month on your bill.

415
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:08,159
» Some places have where if you go over
the peak or you get a demand, it it

416
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,240
applies to your entire bill for that
month or that time frame,

417
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,000
» right?
>> Which is can be devastating to people.

418
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:17,679
So,
>> you know, so I agree. We need to

419
00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:20,720
understand that.
>> Yeah, we talked about this a little bit.

420
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:26,320
So I think we're still in the power
brief. So we I can explain a little bit.

421
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:30,399
So with this consultant as Josh said
this is planned to discuss and I think

422
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:35,919
one of the consultants or it was
discussed but that demand might be done

423
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:41,039
but it's also discussed and that's what
this rate process will be high we need

424
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:45,200
to work with is that we might want to
say yes we need to do it in the future

425
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:49,200
but it is a little bit of a shock do it
right away. So we're going to do a rate

426
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:53,440
for this year, we'll do this rate. Next
year we'll do this rate. rate there

427
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:57,600
after that we'll do this and we'll see
what we can do or we can sort of say

428
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:02,240
let's push for conservation. And I think
that's what one thing we're trying to do

429
00:30:59,679 --> 00:31:07,440
is say okay here is try to get the
information out. Let's conserve. If the

430
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:13,039
conservation doesn't work and we're
because what's happening with our power

431
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:17,360
is is yeah during your heavy peak season
we're still buying on the market during

432
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:22,799
that time frame and that's killing us.
So if we can if we can get off that

433
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:27,760
market during that time or reduce that
that will help a lot. The second thing

434
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:31,679
is is if we can get conservation. So
there are ways around this, but again

435
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:36,000
I'm just going to keep emphasizing
there's a [clears throat] lot of data

436
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:40,720
that this committee needs to go through
to understand what is the best way to do

437
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:46,240
the rate. So cost you we're doing a cost
of uh

438
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:49,679
cost of service and then they're going
to look at the rate design and then

439
00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:55,039
they're going to say here's what uh
other municipalities here's what you can

440
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:59,440
do as a at cost and what can we do to
try to try to work things out but again

441
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:07,440
I'm sorry to repeat it but it's a lot of
data so we have to have time to be able

442
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:11,120
to discuss it to say pros and cons.
Yeah, I'll just make one more comment

443
00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:15,200
» if [clears throat] I could.
>> Some of these items should be on number

444
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,039
five, the rate study on we're still on
three.

445
00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:19,840
» Oh, you want to go to the rate study for
this?

446
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,360
» Well, if what we were just talking about
on

447
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,679
» Yeah. Yeah.
>> I don't know what your comment unless

448
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,760
your comments are about
>> uh

449
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,120
» the current consumption we just went
over.

450
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,440
» We can just cover it under.
>> No, this is Well, yeah, this I can I can

451
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,000
» I can comment. It's just a quick
comment. I can do it on the rate study.

452
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,600
» We're doing it in the rate study.
>> Okay.

453
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,159
» Okay.
>> All right. Any more items on

454
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:44,320
» one more thing?
>> Go ahead.

455
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:47,679
» Uh about uh um the refuge disposal, I
guess. Is is that appropriate on this

456
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:53,120
agenda item?
>> Um

457
00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:55,440
» if uh we can actually uh No, we need to
agendaize that. But

458
00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:00,480
» okay,
>> is it appropriate on any item or just on

459
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:03,039
number on number six for an agenda item
or

460
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,399
» probably number six?
>> Yeah, number six for utility for

461
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,519
upcoming meetings. if it's something you
want to put on there.

462
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:14,240
» Uh if it has to do with the contract,
no. If it has to do with uh

463
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:18,640
» just in general, I'm just curious about
what I read in the paper and what's

464
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:24,640
really true about refugees disposal and
about issues.

465
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:29,120
» Uh save it for six. Okay, great.
>> Okay, we'll close out item number three.

466
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:34,799
Agenda item number three. Now we're on
to agenda item number four. status up to

467
00:33:32,159 --> 00:33:40,679
date from utilities engineer Bill Grunig
on progress and developments of ongoing

468
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:40,679
capital improvement projects.

469
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:48,720
» Um who's filling in?
>> I'll fill in. Bill is um he's out sick

470
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:53,080
today. So I will
take that over one second.

471
00:33:53,143 --> 00:34:01,200
[clears throat] So,
for our ongoing projects, we don't have

472
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:06,320
um a ton of updates other than from from
what we had last meeting. Um what I will

473
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:11,040
say is in uh I have a couple key
highlights for some of our projects. Uh

474
00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:18,560
starting with let me look at electric.
So for E2301, the uh substation 3

475
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:24,960
rebuild, um that project is ongoing and
Burns and McDonald, one of our um one of

476
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:33,520
the subcontractors that CRC uses, they
um just finished about 30% design work

477
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:39,440
on that. Uh E2505 or E2305,
our meter upgrades, as you know, we have

478
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:44,960
an ongoing AMI pilot for our electric
meters. And this uh pilot project is

479
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:49,520
going very well and we are thinking of
adopting that adopting those meters and

480
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:52,240
upgrading them citywide. So there might
be a project for that in the future. It

481
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:55,359
probably
>> which number was that Josh?

482
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,560
» E2303 meter upgrades.
>> Oh 2303. Okay, that makes sense more to

483
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:03,880
me. Okay.
>> And for water uh W2301

484
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:14,400
20 Hold on. 231. Let me see. Yeah. So,
AR ARVM backflow replacement. So, we

485
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:22,359
replaced two ancient two 8 in over at uh
MUN with that one.

486
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:22,359
Um S2302 down to sewer.

487
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:29,680
So, re rehabilitate uh sanitatory sewer
mains. Uh Wilson Engineering, they're

488
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:34,480
doing a lot of work for us on this. Um
uh we just um paid a couple invoices for

489
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:37,480
them doing some of that work. and um
S2401

490
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:44,320
uh lift station 4 improvements um mount
mountain Pine is doing work uh is

491
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:48,079
ongoing on that right now and uh those
are like the key updates with these

492
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:52,000
projects everything else um there's no
significant updates of note on the rest

493
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:56,880
of them right now at this time
>> I do have I'll add on the water side uh

494
00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:02,160
we went out to uh bid for copper
services so we went out to three

495
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:07,520
different uh
bids we have two different contractors

496
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:12,800
that were awarded. Um, Asaw one, Acme,
two of them. So, that would they'll be

497
00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:15,920
uh they're already beginning. And uh
>> sorry, what was that for? I missed.

498
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,480
» Upper service replacement. Sorry, that
sounds better, doesn't it?

499
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,040
» Where where the street where they
replace it from the to the h from the

500
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:25,200
house meter.
>> Yeah, they'll put a new they'll the

501
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:29,520
trench down, the pothole down,
>> the ongoing one, right? get rid of the

502
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:34,320
old curb stop or corp, put a new one in,
run a new line, copper service to the to

503
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:39,800
the meter, and then at that time we
replace the meter if needed to an AMR.

504
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,800
So

505
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:49,280
» So Gary, was that um so we're getting
you've got did you say two or three

506
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:55,520
different contractors online for that?
>> Three projects, two contractors.

507
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:59,599
» Okay. And so is that going to um make
sure that we get the a the ARP or the

508
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:05,480
» AMR
>> the extra money

509
00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:05,480
» the paid used.

510
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,839
» Oh,
>> is that helping with that? Make sure we

511
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:14,320
get that money used.
>> Yeah, the that's all ARPA that was all

512
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:19,040
spent. This was
>> the ARPA fund that quite a bit of

513
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:22,640
meters. We finished those projects.
>> These are three new projects not ARVA

514
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:27,640
funded. Oh, okay.
>> I see. I see. Okay. Thank you.

515
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:38,960
» Okay. [clears throat and cough]
Any other comments from the committee?

516
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:44,320
All right. We'll move on from item four
to item five.

517
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:49,400
Agenda item number five is update of
utility rate study and overview of next

518
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,400
steps.

519
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,520
Josh.
>> All right. Josh is our man.

520
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:07,760
» So, for the uh utilities rate study, um
it just got approved at council uh last

521
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:10,720
night at their meeting uh with our
consultant that we selected, which we

522
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:16,079
told you about uh pre at the previous
meeting. So, the next steps um once we

523
00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:21,119
get the contract signed by um our staff
and uh FCS, uh we're going to have a

524
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:26,560
kickoff meeting. It'll be um at the end
of this month on the 29th. And once we

525
00:38:23,839 --> 00:38:31,520
um once we have the kickoff meeting, uh
Larry uh the appointed liaison for this

526
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,280
committee, he will be involved in that
as well. And once we have the meeting,

527
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:39,920
we'll go from there and continue
regularly provide you up updates. uh you

528
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:45,520
guys will uh have meetings with the
consultant as well as um is was in the

529
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:50,560
scope of work to keep you guys informed
and uh we've already started sending

530
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:55,480
them uh data. So that's that's all we
have for now as far as the rate study.

531
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,480
Any questions?

532
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:04,400
» One thing [clears throat] I noticed in
the in their proposal I I suppose this

533
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:10,960
is their proposal for the rate study. Uh
I was confused by the it I'm assuming

534
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:15,040
we're going to have a wastewater rate
study as well.

535
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,359
» Yeah, all utilities will be evaluated. I
think the

536
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:21,359
» it says it says that in other one spots
and then it goes and says they're

537
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,920
looking only at water rates. So I'm I'm
assuming it's um

538
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:28,000
» I'm assuming [clears throat] the water
rate wastewater rates and water rates

539
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,880
are mean are the same. But
>> no, they're not the same. But

540
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,480
» I know but I mean they're included in
the same type. I I think the confusion

541
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:38,720
is and we had uh some other people get
confused on this as well. The cost of

542
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:42,400
service isn't being done by all
utilities. The only uh utilities getting

543
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:46,160
a cost of service study, a full analysis
is electric and water landfill and

544
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,680
sewer. They're getting evaluated, yes,
but they aren't receiving a cost of

545
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,880
service study because it's simply not
necessary.

546
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:57,599
» Okay. Well, I think that's something we
want to determine. But yeah. Okay. All

547
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:02,480
right. I I guess that's how I was
misreading it then is that I was looking

548
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:07,119
for the wastewater study. Is that part
of that? That makes probably clears up

549
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,280
my cost my question and I'll read I'll
read

550
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:13,359
» Yeah, Howard
>> if I can help Howard that. So basically

551
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:17,920
what you've got you remember we're only
paying the one one rate for the sewer,

552
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,720
» right?
>> And so basically you're you're going to

553
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:27,680
determine how much we plan to do in the
future and that's where the SNWA is

554
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:32,800
going to be very important. And so right
now, unless you change that um rate into

555
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:36,000
something else, there's really no need
for a cost of service because it's just

556
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:40,320
like, okay, you're just going to break
it in. You're just going to that's where

557
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:44,720
you sort of do do a percentage of an
increase. Whereas the water and the

558
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:48,800
power, then there are several different
rate aspects. If you look at the the

559
00:40:47,359 --> 00:40:54,320
resolutions, you'll see, you know,
you've got different several different

560
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:59,760
rate designs and rate structures. And so
the cost of service then goes into all

561
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:02,400
that whereas the landfill and the sewer
doesn't need to. Does that make help

562
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:06,103
anymore?
>> I I understand what you're saying,

563
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:09,359
Larry. That's a good but a good point.
[clears throat] But I think I misread

564
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:15,040
what I think Josh cleared it up for me
what what I was looking at why I was

565
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:16,960
what generated my question. So
>> um

566
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:22,000
» right. But what it I think we want to
sort of go through the steps so in the

567
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:26,880
rates so we can so we want to we need to
do it somewhere in the middle minimally

568
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:30,560
we don't want to get at the end or the
draft report and say well do we

569
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:35,520
understand this data properly or can
they can we have some input so that's

570
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:41,040
where we as a committee in maybe either
discuss it a little bit here or at least

571
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:45,760
in the next one is okay are do we agree
when we might want to have another

572
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:51,440
meeting so instead of just an agenda
item. We need it we need probably one to

573
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:57,280
two additional meetings minimum
between now and uh July. So we got one

574
00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:01,119
in April and we need to see when they're
available and what the data is available

575
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:06,800
whether it's going to be a going to be
May March or May that we have at least

576
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:12,680
one more meeting and then we got to
figure out how we can go over a lot of

577
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,680
the data

578
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:22,040
» when so data collection is s is
scheduled for it looks like

579
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:29,200
data review Project initiation data
review. It looks like it's got like a

580
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:34,920
two or 3 week window here, but that's
kickoff financial plans, progress

581
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,920
meetings.

582
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:41,119
» Correct. And like I said, I've already
um they already sent me their data

583
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:44,720
request sheet like back in December,
like middle of December, and I've

584
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:49,359
already um collected a lot of the data
that they requested and sent it over to

585
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:53,680
them. uh still got a couple more things,
but by the time the kickoff happens,

586
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,200
they should have everything. And if not,
uh they'll we'll discuss it during the

587
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,359
kickoff and see what what else they
need.

588
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:04,720
» Yeah. I mean, there's no schedule on
this on their on page six of their um of

589
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:09,200
the schedule here. It doesn't even It
shows that we have eight meetings two

590
00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:14,000
per utility, but it doesn't have any SK
any estimated times because I'm sure

591
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:20,800
they're going to have to
that's this looks like it's about a two

592
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:25,599
and a half month program as far as
kickoff progress review getting all the

593
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:30,319
data together.
The cost of service analysis starts in

594
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:34,880
the middle of the third month or the
second month.

595
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:38,079
Oh, I I guess meeting I guess what I'm
getting back to is want to get back to

596
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:43,200
what Larry's suggesting is when we need
to set up these meetings. What's going

597
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:48,960
to trigger our our request for a meeting
so we can put something together.

598
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:53,280
» We plan to keep you updated in between
meetings and if needed we can at that

599
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:57,200
time we can schedule a special meeting.
>> All right. Larry Larry's going to be a

600
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,599
part of the this discussion. Correct. I
mean yes.

601
00:43:57,839 --> 00:44:03,040
» He's going to he's going to be active in
this. So, we're I guess we're going to

602
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:07,520
have to rely on you, Larry, to when
we're going to have to have a meeting.

603
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:10,720
Kind of appears to me.
>> Yeah. I guess I don't know if we talk

604
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:14,960
about here the next next agenda item,
but I guess what we'd have to assume.

605
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:18,960
So, okay, maybe Yeah, we I'll ask of the
next agenda item is how we how we get

606
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:23,599
that special meeting if it's not on one
of our meetings. Um because we'd have to

607
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:26,640
email or call the city would have to
contact everybody to say, "Okay, is it

608
00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:30,720
willing?" So, if we have a meeting
before

609
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:34,560
um April and we don't make the meeting
in this meeting, then we'll have to

610
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:39,119
figure out how that works. Um because
the biggest thing is is is that I'll be

611
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:43,040
involved. But like I said, with all this
data, we want to be able to discuss it

612
00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:48,319
and make sure that all the committee
members understand the data and

613
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:54,079
understand the pros and cons and how we
might want to push for them to look at

614
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:57,119
the the the rate data or what, you know,
how we would advise, put it that way,

615
00:44:55,839 --> 00:44:59,599
because that's what our job is. How do
we how do we best advise,

616
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,119
» right,
>> which direction we think it would be a

617
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:08,560
good idea.
Well, still I think it comes down to if

618
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:13,760
you're going to be directly involved
some to a I think that's going to maybe

619
00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:17,200
be one of our you're not you know when
we're when we're going to have to

620
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:21,920
trigger a meeting and I would say we're
have to anticipate something in March.

621
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:26,000
It sounds like to me if we if they can
get through their data and get what they

622
00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:29,599
need because February looks like they're
going to have that's probably going to

623
00:45:27,359 --> 00:45:35,040
be analyze time.
So I would suspect in March it' be our

624
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:39,119
next opportunity to
tentatively think about a meeting.

625
00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:42,880
» Right. So let's put
>> according to their schedule.

626
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:49,520
» Right. Right. Let's put let's look at
the next agenda item and say the agenda

627
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:55,440
and meetings. I think that has for both
areas. Is that do is that correct?

628
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,720
» What's that?
>> Yeah, that's correct.

629
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:03,200
So Josh, would you agree that the agenda
where we want possible agendas, we can

630
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,599
discuss the meeting at that agenda item
a little more too?

631
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,119
» Yes. Correct.
>> Okay. So we can discuss it among the

632
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:13,280
committee members. This one is more or
less okay. What do we think with the

633
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:17,520
rate process which is we're talking
about the meeting? So we all I think you

634
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:21,839
and I agree. What do the rest of the
committee think? Um how much discussion

635
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:26,400
do they think they're going to want to
have on the rates? I think what I think

636
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,520
that's this agenda item we can sort of
just say that

637
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:33,839
» yeah this agenda item is uh just for
information only. So um shouldn't be too

638
00:46:31,839 --> 00:46:38,800
much discussion here. Um I I gave you
the information uh the updates and the

639
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:45,319
next steps and if you guys have any
questions on that process and the next

640
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,319
steps I'll be happy to answer them.

641
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,720
» Okay. And I guess that's that's the key
issue we have to still after all these

642
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:55,680
years I'm still trying to make sure
because I thought so because when it

643
00:46:53,839 --> 00:47:00,400
says for possible action that's most of
the time we're going to vote if we're

644
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:07,599
just saying we want we
this is how we feel. We're not asking

645
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:11,680
for people's vote. We're just saying do
they think that's a good idea. So isn't

646
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:17,440
that still part of information or does
that have to be under an action item?

647
00:47:15,839 --> 00:47:21,119
Um, I think the things that you guys
have kind of veered off to should go in

648
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:26,000
the next agenda item. Uh, but like I
said, uh, for this item, uh, we've

649
00:47:23,839 --> 00:47:30,240
reviewed the race study process and the
next steps. So, any questions on that,

650
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:34,400
I'll be happy to answer.
>> Otherwise, um, I think we can have a lot

651
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:37,680
more discussion on the next agenda in
the next item.

652
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:42,880
» Okay. I'm just trying to make sure.
Thank you. I'm done then.

653
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:46,880
» Uh, just curious. I I'd have to look at
the schedule, but the next we're going

654
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,839
to have the meeting probably when the
first meeting to

655
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,680
» uh I believe April is the next official
UAC meeting

656
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,760
» for our meeting.
>> No, no, for for the city to meet with

657
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:58,960
the consultant. There's the first stage.
>> It's the 29th and 29th.

658
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,800
» 29th of January.
>> Yeah, that that's that's the kickoff

659
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:04,560
meeting.
>> Okay. And the second the second meeting

660
00:48:03,359 --> 00:48:07,760
is what now?
>> Uh we haven't discussed that yet. I'm

661
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,880
pretty sure we'll get the schedule and
everything during the kickoff of when

662
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:14,079
we'll meet with the consultant next. I
just wondered how far along in the

663
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:18,400
process we're going to be before our
next meeting, our our quarterly meeting.

664
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,800
» That's what I was looking at here. This
agenda.

665
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,960
» Yeah, I know it's on the agenda,
>> right? So, if you

666
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,160
» I don't have it in front of me
>> how attended that is. So, we just

667
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:30,880
» So, when does this when does the second
phase [clears throat] start?

668
00:48:27,359 --> 00:48:33,599
» Second phase phase two starts. Phase two
starts in mid January. Okay. So, we're

669
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,319
here.
>> So, we're into it go for three months.

670
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,160
» That's what I'm going to say. people by
the time they award the contract quick

671
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:43,760
how quickly they award the contract
they're already requesting data. It's

672
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:48,640
going to have to shift somehow in there.
>> So I know we have a lot of feedback for

673
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:53,599
things that would be included in the
rate study and since

674
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:58,400
it seems like we're 3 months down the
road and they're going to be well into

675
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:01,680
it by the time we give some input into
what we think they should some of the

676
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:06,240
things they should look at in the rate
study, right? like you know this peak

677
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:12,720
thing we talked about where if we could
have a way to encourage people to to not

678
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:17,280
use their washers and dryers in at 12 in
January I mean in July things like that

679
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:21,119
that's something that would be included
in the their study.

680
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:26,319
» Yeah. So with with the kickoff meeting
on the 29th, we'll have a better idea of

681
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:30,459
a timeline and the added meetings and I
think it was mentioned earlier at least

682
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:35,119
minimum of two extra meetings in between
[clears throat] to give plenty of time

683
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:39,839
to review the data, review where we're
going and meet back up uh during a

684
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,119
special meeting.
>> Yeah. So we'll have some input before it

685
00:49:41,839 --> 00:49:49,599
gets too far along.
>> Yeah. And individually we can uh we can

686
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:55,200
meet with you. we can uh also have a a
brief a briefing individually brief

687
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:58,400
individual briefing, excuse me. Um and
definitely keep you up to date in

688
00:49:56,559 --> 00:50:02,640
between. That is the plan. So great.
>> So everything really based is going to

689
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,839
be based on getting that January 29th
meeting scheduled.

690
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,240
» Yeah.
>> And what the schedule they'll come up

691
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:11,839
with after that and that'll give us some
definition of possible times for our

692
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,280
meetings.
>> I think that is I believe that is the

693
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:20,000
way to go is get that off. Larry is
going to have to be the one I think to

694
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,839
» trigger that for us for at least getting
us involved. So

695
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,119
» yeah.
>> All right.

696
00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:26,000
» We do not plan
>> I think I mean but anybody else thoughts

697
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:31,839
or concerns?
>> Sounds reasonable to me.

698
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:36,720
» Okay. Cool. All right.
>> Larry, anything from you

699
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:39,040
» on this agenda item? I'm good. Thank
you.

700
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:43,599
» All right. Anyone else?
>> And I'm corrected assuming we're not

701
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:49,839
going to talk about uh uh in this rate
study. They're not going to talk about

702
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:53,119
the refugees uh the refuge or the dump I
guess you'd say as a rate study.

703
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,440
» Landfill.
>> The landfill. I was trying to think of

704
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,720
the right term.
>> Landfill is included.

705
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:00,960
» Uh that's those rates going to be
discussed also. They are, aren't they?

706
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:05,040
» Yes.
>> The uh it the landfill itself we

707
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:09,760
overlooked, not the contract the
contractor that we have. That's a that's

708
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:16,160
» so they'll look at the rates. the rates
>> the rates will be studied and ways of of

709
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:19,200
I guess uh
fixing a system that might be a little

710
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:23,599
broken or something like that. They're
going to talk about ways of of of of

711
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,760
getting more income [clears throat] or
getting a reasonable amount of income.

712
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:31,839
That that'll all be talked about in the
>> utilities were included in the in the

713
00:51:29,839 --> 00:51:34,839
study or are included in the study
scheme.

714
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:43,839
» All right. Any more question? Any more
discussion on item number five?

715
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:48,640
All right, we'll close that out. And now
we'll go to item number agenda item

716
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:53,280
number six for possible action
discussion. Discuss potential agenda

717
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:55,870
items relative to revenue requirements
of the utility for upcoming meetings.

718
00:51:55,215 --> 00:52:00,920
[clears throat]
[snorts]

719
00:51:57,359 --> 00:52:00,920
» All right. Open.

720
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,480
» Well, we do we do have a have an agenda
item for the

721
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:10,480
» utility study. That's going to be
automatic, right?

722
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,440
Until this is done, we'll have one on
every agenda.

723
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:18,319
» Correct. Yep. [clears throat]
And then we also wanted to make sure

724
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:22,000
that the SNWA studies on there.
>> Well, no. I guess you're talking we're

725
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:24,160
not going to do that on the agenda
because we're going to have a separate

726
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,119
meeting for that. Correct.
>> Well, I think we should have it. I still

727
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,760
think we should have as an agenda item.
>> Oh,

728
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:31,040
» no. I think you're right. But No, I
think we

729
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:34,000
» Oh, if that's
>> We want it as an agenda item.

730
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:38,880
» We already agreed to that.
>> Yes. Yes. I mean that's

731
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:41,680
» our request was not needed to so we need
to make sure that's on there's no

732
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,599
information is that something
>> even yeah even if there's no information

733
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:49,520
» so we'll have a meeting between now and
the next meeting so we become informed

734
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:55,520
and then we're going to have an agenda
item every meeting until this issue is

735
00:52:52,079 --> 00:53:00,720
resolved just to talk about I I don't
know what you want to discuss in an open

736
00:52:57,359 --> 00:53:03,359
meeting as far as details since we'll be
all informed at the next meeting

737
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,720
» right
>> uh was it just be an update from the

738
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:11,040
time we have our little meeting between
you guys and then the next regular

739
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:14,160
meeting here. Is that what it'll be
encased in that? Uh you follow me?

740
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,359
» No.
>> Okay. So, we're going to we're going to

741
00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:23,760
get all up to speed in another month or
two, right? With a separate meeting

742
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:26,480
» on the effluent and then
>> on the

743
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,680
» on the effluent
>> and

744
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:34,319
» the the goal is to bring it back to you
on that. That would be but I believe it

745
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:39,760
also and correct Josh called help me out
on here and I apologize I'm diving into

746
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:43,359
a lot of this new information for me um
but I believe it does have to go to does

747
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:49,119
it have to go to council
>> first? So so in other words this

748
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:54,720
compromise of us having a meeting and
becoming informed is going to take away

749
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:58,160
the requirement to have a reoccurring
agenda item. Is that correct?

750
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:03,839
» Correct. I
>> because you don't want to get false

751
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,040
information out in this meeting. Uh I'm
still

752
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:09,119
» I think we
>> because we are going to have progress

753
00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:14,000
between the time we talk about this in a
special meeting and the next utility

754
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:19,599
meeting. There's going to be progress
there. And if we don't discuss it and

755
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:23,280
don't and you don't tell us of the
progress, then we're kind of out in the

756
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:28,240
dark again. You see what I mean?
>> Well, hold.

757
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:34,640
I'm going to confuse here. it we an item
we we had in our last meeting in October

758
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:37,520
we had SNWA effluent reuse item should
appear as a reoccurring item on the

759
00:54:36,319 --> 00:54:40,960
agenda.
>> I think that's what we want. I want

760
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:45,119
» that's what we want but it looks like
the city I think we should ask we we

761
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:49,280
we're committee.
>> Okay.

762
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:53,280
» Well, I' I'd like to input again why we
because maybe I misunderstood you why

763
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:58,880
you don't want it on the agenda
reoccurring. If you guys want a a vote

764
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:03,119
to put it on the agenda, like by all
means, like like you just said, Howard,

765
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:05,760
» we can we can do that.
>> Mike's already pointed out, it is we

766
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:08,160
did.
>> We already did it, but we could do it

767
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:10,640
again.
>> Correct.

768
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:17,200
» A restate. [laughter]
>> I think we should Okay. Okay. I I need a

769
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:24,400
motion then on restating that we want a
reoccurring meeting re an SNWA reffluent

770
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:26,480
reuse item to reoccur monthly or each at
each meeting

771
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,440
» at least a status report.
>> Yeah, just just we'll just put it on so

772
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:34,720
we can discuss whatever
>> a status report of of

773
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:39,839
» let's discuss this really quick before
we put the motion down. I got to make

774
00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:43,839
sure which way we're doing it. But um so
what we want is there's two things I

775
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:48,160
want to bring up to the fact and it's so
Howard, I'm going to I guess I'll ask

776
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:53,680
bluntly. Are you going to are you
thinking about reapplying

777
00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:57,839
um for another pos another uh three
years for this committee?

778
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:02,720
» I didn't realize I could, but I will.
Yes, I will.

779
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:05,359
» If it was allow if it's allowed, I will.
I know there's a lot.

780
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:10,480
» So what the reason reason I bring that
up is that April would be your last

781
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,319
meeting and my last meeting if we don't
get reappointed,

782
00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:17,920
» right?
>> And so you have the wealth of the

783
00:56:14,799 --> 00:56:23,599
knowledge of this sewer issue.
>> And so we want to use your knowledge to

784
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:29,200
discuss this among the committee and
we're only advising. So if we have

785
00:56:26,799 --> 00:56:32,640
certain facts we can discuss then we
need to be able to discuss it not just

786
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:37,760
an update
>> we need to be able to discuss it. So

787
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:41,280
April is a very important time just in
case some reason you and I don't get

788
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:44,799
reappointed.
>> Right. Right.

789
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:48,480
» And so those are the facts that we have
to make sure everybody understands. So

790
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:52,720
that's why it's important to understand
how it's written as an agenda item.

791
00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:57,920
Well, first off, that it gets to be an
agenda item and how what and what

792
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:01,119
freedom we have to discuss the agenda.
We don't want to be into rumors or

793
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:05,760
anything like that, but we need to be
able to say, can we get on a similar

794
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:09,760
page with all five committee members to
understand

795
00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:10,880
what's what the facts are that we
understand?

796
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,319
» Well,
>> and then if we don't understand it,

797
00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:15,280
because we we are advising the council.
So,

798
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,720
» right,
>> minimally it has if it goes to the

799
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,599
council, it's got to come back to us
before the council finalizes it.

800
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,839
» Right. Exactly.
>> So, the more data we can discuss early,

801
00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:27,280
the better off we are.
>> But,

802
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:32,880
» and if we're going to keep these
meetings down below 3 hours, you have to

803
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:36,799
have be able to discuss things as they
come along, not just, oh, here it is.

804
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:40,880
We're going to we're making the decision
the next council meeting. So, what do

805
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:46,720
you guys think? But the key part to that
to me is that we don't even have the

806
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:51,839
report. And without having a report,
we don't have any facts or even what

807
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:58,000
» it's all inu. It's all it's all been
rumors on what what could be out there.

808
00:57:54,160 --> 00:58:01,520
We're working off a whole data
>> injection wells and all kind of other

809
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:05,440
» the city council has agreed to have a
special meeting to inform us of

810
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:10,559
everything they know. Correct.
>> I mean everything you can share with us

811
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:13,680
details and Has basically has the report
has the report that you've already

812
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:16,799
commented on
>> has the city council seen that report?

813
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:21,520
» No.
>> All right. So, none of us have seen that

814
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,200
report. No one's seen that report.
>> So,

815
00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:27,599
» but you're going to share as much info
as you can with us.

816
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:31,839
» Once we get comments, our comments get
replied to and we know we can get it to

817
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:36,720
council.
>> But what's holding that all up?

818
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:40,160
» We just reached Josh just reached out to
him again. SNWA.

819
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:41,599
» I mean, this has been going on for what,
three years?

820
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,920
» Three years. Yeah.
>> We don't manage them.

821
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,920
» I understand. So, we're trying to work
with them. But

822
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,079
» I mean,
>> I mean,

823
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:52,799
» we we were right there with
>> I mean, if we don't have I mean, in the

824
00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:57,520
first time we did get a report or a some
sort of status update from SNWA. There

825
00:58:54,880 --> 00:59:03,599
were absolutely no costs involved in
that report. That's one of the things we

826
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:08,799
asked for is what is the cost of each
proposed solution. There were at one

827
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:12,720
point I think almost up to five or six
different solutions and there were

828
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:17,599
absolutely no costs involved with each
one of those and there are I'm telling

829
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:23,119
you there's going to be significant cost
in anything we look at because even if

830
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:27,599
we just pump it over to Henderson you
know they're not going to give up

831
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:32,319
a million and a half gallons of water
capacity in their plant for nothing

832
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:38,079
because that takes that takes away
15,000 people from their advanced from

833
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:41,680
their buildouts. So that's going to cost
somebody something.

834
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:48,160
» But it's like Randy said that the
>> but even everything

835
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:52,799
» the SNWA will be gaining the advantage
of getting that water put back in. So

836
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,839
everybody should be paying for it. There
shouldn't be a Boulder city

837
00:59:54,079 --> 01:00:00,000
» and what's you know I'd like to
understand what the dollar what almost

838
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:06,319
to me it almost has to come back to us
as what is the dollar

839
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:14,480
per gallon or million gallons of return
flow how much is that what is that cost

840
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:18,559
to SNWA what's that benefit to SNWA
what's the benefit to the city citizens

841
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,160
here is it worth it
>> well

842
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,040
» right now right now we're just pushing
it out to the

843
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:27,520
» All you have to do is look at how much
money they're spending to [music] do

844
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:30,319
turf replacement. Right. And and I
agree.

845
01:00:27,839 --> 01:00:36,079
» And according to director Stubitz,
>> they have estimates the city is has

846
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:39,760
estimates that they're sending to SNWA
on how much it'll cost

847
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:44,000
» for these six or four or whatever
measures to correct this. So the the

848
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,319
figures are out there right now. We just
don't have access to it.

849
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,640
» Right. Right.
>> So we're going to reel things back in on

850
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:53,440
on
>> I agree. But you realize what we're what

851
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:56,319
we're what we're not getting and we're
sitting up here

852
01:00:54,240 --> 01:01:00,960
» and we don't have the information.
>> Oh, I don't think so. You guys got the

853
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:05,200
Joe said he had the information. He said
that they came up with estimates

854
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:10,960
» and it was comments back. So, if we
supply information that is not fully um

855
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,920
I haven't I haven't read it. I haven't
looked at it.

856
01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:13,040
» Oh, really?
>> Yeah.

857
01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:14,160
» Wow.
>> So,

858
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,680
» yeah,
>> it is something that has to go to

859
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:22,079
council, too. and it's something I'm
going to check in on a little further

860
01:01:20,319 --> 01:01:27,119
and I can get back to you. But we do
need to get back on track and it is

861
01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:33,520
something we're going to look
just to clear something up um on the

862
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:37,280
rate study. Our the focus was the
electric and water because as Randy

863
01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:43,839
mentioned the different classes the
different um uh structure has a lot more

864
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:48,720
structure than our landfill and our and
so the f the rate study is a focus on

865
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:54,000
our electric and water and Randy I know
I just want to thank you for being a

866
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:58,960
part of that selection committee is that
>> what was in depth on the landfill

867
01:01:57,119 --> 01:02:05,119
co it wasn't we're not doing the cost of
service on it but on

868
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:08,319
the rate study itself.
>> Okay. So Gary, this is Larry. So Larry,

869
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,400
I'm sorry asking.
>> Sorry.

870
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:14,559
» No problem.
>> So I believe with the landfill is be

871
01:02:12,319 --> 01:02:17,760
similar to the sewer is that you you
need to figure out what the overall

872
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:20,880
costs are. And that's I think they were
trying to look at like a fiveyear but I

873
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:25,920
think it was possible 10 year financial
study out of that. Then you need to

874
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:30,480
figure out the revenue requirements and
then you figure out are the I I I'm not

875
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:36,319
sure if this rate study was going to
suggest I think they they will a basic

876
01:02:34,319 --> 01:02:42,319
let's say that they say that we need to
do something more than just the rate we

877
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:50,400
have um for right now we have sewer um
the rate study uh h the landfill has two

878
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:54,559
three aspects to it um and then you
would say that so I believe it's going

879
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:59,200
to be looked at but not into the major
depth. But I believe they they would

880
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:02,960
have alternatives and if it's some basic
requests, I don't think that's going to

881
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:09,040
have a problem to make sure that they do
that um with with the with the sewer and

882
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:13,079
landfill.
Does that did I say that right?

883
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:20,960
» Yeah, that's correct, Larry.
>> So, does that say G is that what you're

884
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:24,240
» Thank you. So, I just wanted to clear
that up. So,

885
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:27,599
» so I think but I think but the key
issues we're asking for and that's why

886
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:32,319
this this agenda item always gets
complicated is because we're asking for

887
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:36,640
to be able to discuss issues. We're
asking for things on agenda items and we

888
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:40,799
al so we've got I guess we have like
this today we're doing I think we're

889
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:46,799
doing four things we're doing okay can
we have it on the agenda item um and

890
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:51,839
then we go to how is the agenda item
going to be defined we need to make sure

891
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:56,960
we can discuss it so if an update
doesn't allow us to discuss it then we

892
01:03:53,760 --> 01:04:00,880
have to say for possible action um that
way we can discuss it and if we did make

893
01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:03,839
a motion just to say do we all agree
that we're on the same page page if

894
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:09,280
that's what it takes for a possible
action we need to have that stated and

895
01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:15,200
then and then so maybe it is only three
then we need to say okay I think we can

896
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:20,240
still do this on this one do we have um
do we have need another meeting to go

897
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:23,440
over it so what we're trying to do is
we're just trying to understand make

898
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:28,319
sure we understand the facts so there
are certain facts out there with the

899
01:04:25,359 --> 01:04:33,520
sewer issue that has should be there
from when we ask for the request from

900
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:38,640
there So not not the data that we're
waiting on, but the data that we knew

901
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:42,960
for sure that you know we requested just
to have two two things. Well, can you

902
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:46,480
tell us is the Henderson being
considered again? Maybe is that

903
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:51,200
something we could tell? So in the
individual ones there are data I think

904
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:56,079
you could share with us individually to
say this is what we do know. The other

905
01:04:54,319 --> 01:04:58,960
information the council hasn't received
yet. We haven't. But there is a little

906
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:03,599
problem. We need to work with that too
because if we're advising the council, I

907
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:07,440
don't understand why we can't see it if
even if we have to make a declaration

908
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:12,559
that we're not going to share it that
we're going to we need to advise the

909
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:16,480
council. So sometimes we need to see it
either before or at the same time. So

910
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:22,440
that that's where I'm confused on some
of this issue also with when it comes to

911
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,440
the agenda and meetings.

912
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:30,400
So, so as you have before, put it
request if you're requesting it to put

913
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:33,839
on the agenda. In the meantime, I'll get
some more information and I'll have to

914
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,000
get back to you guys.
>> Then we'll have a special meeting. I

915
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,559
appreciate
>> and

916
01:05:36,319 --> 01:05:42,640
» yeah, I I think the reason we're pushing
back is we're just hoping that we can do

917
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:48,000
it sooner or later because it does
relate to the rates and so if if SNWA

918
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:52,000
drags their feet, it doesn't get to the
council and nothing happens before the

919
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:57,039
rate process and we can't discuss it
before the rate process, it's another

920
01:05:53,760 --> 01:06:01,839
factor that just doesn't get resolved.
That's why we're pushing back so hard.

921
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:06,640
» Yeah. We just want to make sure there's
not misinformation out there. Uh as

922
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:11,520
mentioned there's different directions
that were recommended. We those might

923
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:16,079
change. We don't know. Um so that is
something that before it gets any

924
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,720
misinformation is put out there. We need
to make sure it's correct. So we'll have

925
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:22,720
to get back to
>> I think we were

926
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:26,720
» right because I think the minimum we'd
like to do maybe that if we could do it

927
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:31,359
before April is just can we get the
committee members on the same page. So

928
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:36,960
if the if you were willing to say this
is the information that we had before

929
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:41,599
the new committee members came on
minimally would that be because you the

930
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:45,200
information that's public. So that's the
type of thing minimally that we could we

931
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:51,039
could then we could discuss that okay
this is the information we knew going

932
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:54,559
into the study. Um can we talk about
that? See I think that's what we're

933
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:58,720
pushing back for just in case um you're
saying well we don't have that much

934
01:06:55,599 --> 01:07:03,920
data. You do have the data that we went
into the study with.

935
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:07,920
» Correct. So, if you want to put it on
the agenda, uh, we'll go from there.

936
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,559
» Well, we had a motion.
>> Okay.

937
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:14,960
» Well, is again, do we need a motion or
not? It's already been requested.

938
01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:16,720
But do we need to clarify what we're
requesting?

939
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,240
» I think we should clarify it and make
another motion.

940
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,240
» I think so, too. I
>> I can make it or you can make it.

941
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:26,880
» Go ahead.
>> Okay. I make a motion that um we uh have

942
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:32,799
a reoccurring item on the effluence
study where we uh are told progress or

943
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:38,799
lack of progress and we have uh can ask
questions and get answers

944
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:42,480
um that we might have of the process and
uh does that cover it?

945
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,920
» Does for me
>> just to make sure we put for possible

946
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,160
action. I think for possible action
needs to be

947
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,720
» okay
>> and for possible action.

948
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:55,359
» Okay. for possible action.
>> I don't think action would be taken on

949
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:58,160
it would be discussion.
>> I I'm kind of confused on the action

950
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,720
part. I mean we're gonna
>> Can we say discussion or and action or

951
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,520
just have to do
>> I mean all we do is make recommendations

952
01:08:02,319 --> 01:08:07,119
right to the city.
>> Yeah. But if we [clears throat] don't

953
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:12,000
have the complete information and if we
are bringing something that's to discuss

954
01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:14,960
I don't know if there would be
necessarily any action taken on it.

955
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,480
» So we have
>> Okay. So just make see here's what

956
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:24,159
here's what I'm trying to clarify Gary
and Josh you can help me. So in this

957
01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:32,799
last agenda item on the rate update it
was for update only for update only. Um

958
01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:38,000
now then and so I didn't know how many
options we had. If we can say for

959
01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:41,040
discussion that's fine but we were sort
of shut down on the last one with the

960
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:45,440
rate because well here's what I have to
offer. We really don't we're not

961
01:08:43,759 --> 01:08:49,600
supposed to discuss it on this item
because we didn't it's an update only.

962
01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:53,839
That's what I'm trying to avoid. So if
actions inappropriate that's okay but

963
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:57,400
there has to be some way we can discuss
it action.

964
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:05,920
» So the because we've been this has
happened for six years. This happens to

965
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:09,839
us quite often is that we get to the
agenda we think we can talk and then

966
01:09:08,239 --> 01:09:14,159
it's like well no it wasn't written that
way and this is all you can do. So, all

967
01:09:11,839 --> 01:09:18,799
I'm asking is that we can make sure it's
written in a way that we can discuss it.

968
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:24,719
» So, you're talking about two motions.
One one to uh get an update and the

969
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:27,199
other one to ask questions. Is that
something we would need to

970
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,440
» No, no, no. It should it should be one
agenda item.

971
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,799
» Yeah, we can just say update and
discussion and that'll be fine.

972
01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:35,199
» We can just do it like I said.
>> You can just say update and discussion

973
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:37,440
and that'll be fine.
>> It's fine.

974
01:09:35,759 --> 01:09:40,480
» Discussion. How about a discussion and
possible action if you that's an action

975
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,520
but
>> I I I don't I'm confused about what what

976
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:46,159
an action means.
>> Yeah. Let's I mean

977
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:50,239
» so what what are you saying Josh?
>> We can just say update and discussion

978
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:53,040
» and that allows us to freely ask
questions and discuss it without

979
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:57,440
» correct
>> whatever we're told we can we get a

980
01:09:55,679 --> 01:09:59,840
report on.
>> Knowledge anyways.

981
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:04,400
» Correct. But [snorts] no no I mean if it
if we're told it's what can we discuss

982
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:08,560
only what we're talk told about? You can
discuss what's on the agenda and a four

983
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:14,320
possible action is if the body is going
to make a motion and a direction or some

984
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:16,239
type of action on it, but it has to be
within your scope,

985
01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:20,320
» right?
>> But you absolutely if it says update and

986
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:23,600
discussion, you can discuss it. You just
can't make a direction, right?

987
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:28,800
» And for instance, like when you're
talking about this rate study, at that

988
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:32,800
point there there would be no motion to
be made because it's already been

989
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:36,000
approved by the city council,
>> right?

990
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:39,920
to to complete what's in within that
agreement that scope of work has already

991
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:44,719
been approved.
>> All right.

992
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:48,480
» Right. But Tammy on that case it's that
so we weren't talking about a motion. We

993
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:52,640
were just trying to say okay even if we
were just saying do everybody does

994
01:10:50,239 --> 01:10:57,600
everybody on the committee agree with
this concept. So that's we weren't

995
01:10:54,880 --> 01:11:03,360
asking for a motion on on the rate
process. We were asking for a for the

996
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:08,560
race consultant. We were asking for just
an understanding as the committee

997
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:14,159
understand what we believe needs to be
done in the next couple steps and that's

998
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:17,840
so that's a discussion. So the action
would be that's where I'm confused just

999
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:21,760
to make sure we're on the same page.
>> She was just giving an example.

1000
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:26,560
» Yeah. I was just given an example and
for the record I didn't say Tammy Mccay

1001
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:31,280
city clerk. So, I I I'm not even
understanding what I I'm not

1002
01:11:28,719 --> 01:11:35,760
understanding, Larry, what you're asking
to do with the rate study that was just

1003
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:41,199
approved by the city council. Are you
suggesting that this group would make

1004
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:45,280
changes to what's already been approved?
>> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's I

1005
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:49,280
never did that. I never said that during
this meeting at all. What I was saying

1006
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:53,840
is there's a lot of data. What I kept
repeating was there's a lot of data that

1007
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:58,000
we have to go for and when do and we
most we're pretty positive we need at

1008
01:11:55,600 --> 01:12:00,800
least one more meeting other than our
normal meetings.

1009
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:04,880
» Yeah, I heard that and that's that's not
an issue. Gary point Dexter can work on

1010
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:07,679
a meeting date
>> but

1011
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:11,440
» okay so those are we're okay. I'm not I
wasn't trying to be derogatory on on the

1012
01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:15,440
four, but it was and that's one thing
I'm just and and as the chairman too, I

1013
01:12:13,679 --> 01:12:20,159
greatly appreciate Howard doing this
today, but as as the regular chair, I'm

1014
01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:26,000
just trying to understand what we have
what we need to ask for. Um, so if it's

1015
01:12:23,199 --> 01:12:32,320
an update or it's discussion or action.
So I think there's three things. So if

1016
01:12:28,239 --> 01:12:36,400
we were to do a motion on like the the
working capital where we like we we

1017
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:41,360
would say we want to do something or we
advise something on the not working on

1018
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:45,120
the capital as an example then that
would be have to have an action. If

1019
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:48,960
we're just saying we want to discuss it
then we don't have to have an action but

1020
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:53,120
can we discuss it? Can we ask the
committee if they agree? Is that does

1021
01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:57,199
that have to have an action or is that
just a discussion? No, I mean you would

1022
01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:01,520
get that out of it just by the
discussion whether or not somebody's in

1023
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:04,560
favor of something or not. But but
Larry, outside of the meeting, we can

1024
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:07,360
work on the on the next meeting and I'm
happy to work with you regarding the

1025
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:12,000
language of the agenda.
>> Okay. Cuz cuz I guess what I'm

1026
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,520
» I'm sorry, Larry.
>> You're done, Larry.

1027
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,679
» I'm done.
>> Okay.

1028
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:21,760
» I'm done. I guess what I'm confused by
is that or how this all comes about is

1029
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:26,000
if we learn say we learn some
information in the report. We're we're

1030
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:32,400
listening or we have the report in front
of us and we wanted to discuss specifics

1031
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:37,040
like why is this if if we're whatever
one solution came up and it didn't have

1032
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:42,880
enough cost or we wanted explanation on
the cost. Can we ask those questions and

1033
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:45,920
get answers or do we have to make a
motion to get more information? How does

1034
01:13:44,719 --> 01:13:52,239
that pan out?
>> No, we we can just write the agenda

1035
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:53,920
title um the item to go over everything
that you're asking

1036
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:58,560
» because I almost feel like we're
handcuffed on what we can talk about and

1037
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:03,520
I want to and I don't want to delay it
to the next meeting. I'd like to get you

1038
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:08,000
know suggest they you know like we find
out something has costs or we don't have

1039
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:14,080
enough costs or whatever. How can we
direct that to be improved or added to

1040
01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:20,080
or whatever? I that's what I that's why
I want to be clear on

1041
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:25,520
what what we learn and what we feel is
an action or collectively come up with

1042
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:27,600
another solution or or more information
needed.

1043
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:32,159
» No, we we can make a four possible
action and if it's something that you

1044
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:35,679
feel strongly about as a body that you
want to make a recommendation to the

1045
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:39,840
council, then you can do that. It is a
recommendation. Okay.

1046
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:43,679
» And that's the judge. That's the motion
I made. You'll include that so that we

1047
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:48,480
could make a recommendation and vote on
it if we for instance feel like one

1048
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:52,239
solution to the affluent problem is
better than the other or that we

1049
01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:56,239
shouldn't have to pay for it. Uh we
should all SNWA should have to pay for

1050
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:59,040
it. Those kind of instances we can make
a recommendation.

1051
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:02,080
» Well, if that's something under your
scope, I need to go back and look at and

1052
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,120
see if that's something that is under
this body scope.

1053
01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:07,920
» Mhm.
and if we have the information that

1054
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,800
you're saying. So,
>> yeah, again, we've done that in the

1055
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:14,880
past. We've made recommendations and
we've voted on them and with an agenda

1056
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:19,280
item where we we're filled in on what's
going on and we ask questions and that's

1057
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:24,000
been pretty common if I recall in the
last year or and a half or so I've been

1058
01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:28,000
here is we've been able to do that, make
recommendations. We just want to make

1059
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:31,760
sure that the uh motion that I'm
carrying here allows us to to do that.

1060
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,800
» Yeah, I'll look into it.
>> Okay. So

1061
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:38,320
» yeah, Ty, one thing too and for the rest
of the committee, so I'm not trying to

1062
01:15:36,719 --> 01:15:42,159
push back too hard here, but just I
think to help clarify, one of the one of

1063
01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:47,040
the main scopes of this committee is is
the revenue requirement. And so if there

1064
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:49,679
are additional costs, that's a revenue
requirement. And that's what we would

1065
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:53,840
say is, hey, correct,
>> this looks to be that it would be a re

1066
01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:58,159
increase to the requirement.
>> I'm happy to bring that matter back when

1067
01:15:55,760 --> 01:16:02,960
it's been agenda. So if you want that as
a future agenda item, I I hear you

1068
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:07,199
» and it's been noted, but it's not really
up for discussion right now is in great

1069
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:11,679
detail like you're providing.
>> So okay,

1070
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:14,560
» is is so is my we make another motion?
>> I mean, is my motion okay?

1071
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:17,520
» Yeah, that's not Yes. Do we make another
motion or from what just

1072
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:22,320
» Yeah, you don't even need to make a
motion. This this item is regarding

1073
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:26,080
upcoming agenda items and I'm sure
either Josh or Gary has noted down

1074
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:29,120
» what items you're looking to be brought
forward

1075
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:33,600
» because I my feeling is after from the
discussion we've just had is that when

1076
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:38,640
this report is made available to us or
the information that whatever that we

1077
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:43,120
could freely discuss it I want to be
able to do

1078
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:47,520
» and we want to make a motion because
this is the third time and Josh said we

1079
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:50,640
could make a motion and we could appro
you

1080
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:53,120
And I've already made a motion so we can
continue on it. Right.

1081
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,760
» Well,
>> on the motion to

1082
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:59,520
» It sounds like we don't need a motion.
>> Well, again, I I

1083
01:16:57,679 --> 01:17:04,159
» It's not a motion. This this item that's
on here is upcoming agenda topics you

1084
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:08,159
would like to have for the next agenda.
>> Well, it's it's a motion is to have a

1085
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:11,360
recurring agenda item. Correct.
>> That's the motion.

1086
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:16,480
» It's not a motion. It's just a
discussion on upcoming agenda items.

1087
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:19,280
Yes. From what's being said, it's going
to be on there next time.

1088
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:23,600
» Oh, okay. Okay. So, we don't need that.
>> And if it's if it's in within the

1089
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:26,880
utility advisory scope on what your
duties are. Yes.

1090
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,080
» Okay. Why don't you resend that scope to
us?

1091
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:31,520
» I will.
>> So, we don't need a motion then.

1092
01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:33,360
» Should be on the agenda next.
>> All right. What was it? The other We had

1093
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,440
another item
>> if it's within your scope. Yes.

1094
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,480
» Okay. Okay.
>> Yeah.

1095
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:41,040
» Thank you.
>> What was our other thought we were going

1096
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:44,640
to put request? Um, well, I just Well,
first of all, I wanted to ask because

1097
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:47,600
there is a term out on committee
members, correct?

1098
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:51,440
» No, there [clears throat] is not.
>> Just uh uh we serve at the pleasure of

1099
01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:54,640
city council. No terms.
>> No, you have you have terms.

1100
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:56,560
» I thought there was terms. Uh what are
they?

1101
01:17:55,120 --> 01:18:01,280
» Well, I don't know off the top of my
head, but I'm happy to email it to you.

1102
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:04,480
» My question is we were talking about him
and having to be reuped. Well, how long

1103
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:07,679
have you been a
>> I think I've I thought I had the limit.

1104
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,560
I thought I was at the limit. That's
what I was saying.

1105
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:13,520
» It has a limit, but it's 12 years.
>> I haven't been on for 12 years.

1106
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,440
» Okay. Then you haven't Well, you know
the limit. Okay.

1107
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:18,320
» If it's at least if you know that for
sure. I haven't

1108
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:21,440
» I think I've been appointed.
>> You guys have threeear term limits, but

1109
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:25,280
I don't know when you were appointed. If
you were appointed to a full term, an

1110
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,040
expired term was a full term to start
with.

1111
01:18:25,679 --> 01:18:28,719
» Yeah. I'd have to go. I mean, we have it
all recorded.

1112
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,600
» My second term.
>> We have it all recorded in our office. I

1113
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:34,239
just don't know off the top of my head.
>> My second term.

1114
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:37,440
» If you haven't done 12 years, then you
>> Yeah, there can't be. We haven't been

1115
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:40,239
around that long yet. if it's a 12-year
limit. That's what I thought it was, but

1116
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:45,600
» Well, that's good to know.
>> So, Tammy, excuse me. I just searched it

1117
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:50,400
and it what it says is no. Members of
the utility advisory committee in

1118
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:53,280
Boulder City are not term limited. They
serve at the discretion of the city

1119
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,480
council,
>> but you but you hold terms. I I'll go

1120
01:18:55,199 --> 01:18:59,840
look and tell you what your terms are.
>> Yeah. Okay. Well, that's that's

1121
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:02,560
» this is a the members here will be
appointed to a three-year staggered.

1122
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:04,719
Yeah. Okay.
>> Threeear staggered, but I don't know

1123
01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:08,719
when you're
>> You're not kicked out. No,

1124
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:11,040
» but can we get back to discussing the uh
potential agenda items for the next

1125
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:15,360
meeting?
>> Yep.

1126
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:18,800
» So, we have one state of
>> reiterated.

1127
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:22,560
» Anybody else? Larry, would you did you
have one? Let me look at your notes,

1128
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:28,800
Larry.
I think the biggest thing was just again

1129
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:32,640
the uh so the do we need to uh so I
guess Tammy since you're here so if we

1130
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:37,760
want to request the
>> okay if we want so just we need just to

1131
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:43,120
understand if we can request I think we
can request a meeting special meeting

1132
01:19:40,239 --> 01:19:47,600
during the time frame I can request it
if I understand this stuff right um to

1133
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:52,000
request a special meeting and then the
city would put a email out to everybody

1134
01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:56,560
all the committee members, I believe.
So, as long as as Josh and Gary think

1135
01:19:54,800 --> 01:20:00,480
that's right, then then we would just
need to look after the kickoff meeting

1136
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:03,480
to what we want to do for the rate
process.

1137
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:13,199
» I think we're good with that.
Anything else? Anyone else got a action?

1138
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:18,000
» I I was thinking about
um putting something on agenda item

1139
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:21,600
about the U landfill like I talked
about. Um there seems to be a little

1140
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:29,760
controversy now flowing about the
landfill. I uh I I is the contract up in

1141
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:34,800
the next uh year or 6 months or
>> so it would be outside of what this

1142
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,640
committee would discuss if you're
talking about the contractor.

1143
01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:39,199
» Okay.
>> Yeah, that would be for council to

1144
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:46,000
» Okay.
>> But that but you can also say that that

1145
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:51,280
» has to do with the cost of the landfill.
So is that not part of our duties

1146
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:55,199
» as part of the rate study and what the
landfill operation is?

1147
01:20:53,120 --> 01:21:00,159
» Not the operation but the cost of the
operation.

1148
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:04,880
» Yeah. But the the contractor itself
within what uh the agreement between the

1149
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:08,400
city and the cont and the contractor
would not be.

1150
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:12,480
» No. No. But but
>> but if you have some other Sorry. Go

1151
01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:18,719
ahead. just just the amount that it cost
the city to to run the landfill or to

1152
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:21,840
have somebody run the landfill would be
part of our

1153
01:21:20,159 --> 01:21:26,080
» duties rate study.
>> Is that saying

1154
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:31,440
» um
>> I might have to get I'll have to look

1155
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:35,760
into my understanding is it would be if
to operate

1156
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:41,120
to what the city has operated in the
landfield. Yes. But then like so if

1157
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:45,760
we're putting new fence in any kind of
projects that are going out there

1158
01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:50,480
improvement projects and then also but I
but I understand what you're saying

1159
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:54,840
because that falls under that total cost
but that's something I'll have to get

1160
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,840
back to.

1161
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:06,320
» Yeah. My my reason for bringing this up
though is uh

1162
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:11,679
um
there is some controversy about uh

1163
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:17,760
people dumping things that aren't from
Boulder City and I know the contract is

1164
01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:22,719
probably kind of loose on that about the
con and so I I was just trying to get

1165
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:27,520
some information uh also on the
recycling program. Um,

1166
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,280
» if you'd like to meet individ like with
myself, we can schedule.

1167
01:22:28,719 --> 01:22:31,440
» Can I do that?
>> Yeah, that'd be great.

1168
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:35,520
» Okay. Yeah. I just have some questions
and I rather than putting it as an

1169
01:22:34,239 --> 01:22:40,080
agenda, I'm sure if I could talk to you
right now, I I just like the

1170
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:41,920
» Well, talking outside of this meeting.
Yeah, I got to do it outside.

1171
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:45,520
» Yeah, that would be great.
>> Okay. Thank you.

1172
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:50,960
» All right. Anyone else?
>> Well, then the last one,

1173
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:55,120
» sorry, the last one. So Gary, um, since
it got brought up a little bit more

1174
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:58,560
about what our scope is, do you think we
can talk about that during the rate to

1175
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:06,040
make sure it's in our scope or do we
have do we want to do a quick agenda

1176
01:23:00,639 --> 01:23:06,040
item to say let's just review our scope?

1177
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:13,600
» Well, Tammy's going to send us what our
scope is.

1178
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:16,560
U
Do you want to have that as an agenda

1179
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:20,719
item, Larry?
>> It's just a matter of discussion. So

1180
01:23:18,159 --> 01:23:25,840
again, do does the committee
understand are we on the same page as

1181
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:28,840
far as we see our scope goes?
>> Um

1182
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:41,679
let's well we could uh we could put on
review we could put on something like

1183
01:23:36,719 --> 01:23:46,320
review scope of of the uh utility
services

1184
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:51,440
uh committee the UA the UAC. We could
just say

1185
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:56,560
what is a discussion on s on scope of
the UAC or whatever.

1186
01:23:55,120 --> 01:24:00,480
» Yeah. I don't know if we want to do that
before the so be this item right before

1187
01:23:58,719 --> 01:24:05,280
the agenda or right before the raids.
That way we can sort of keep we can keep

1188
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:11,000
oursel in you know make sure that we're
understanding what we so we stay try to

1189
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,000
stay out of the weed.

1190
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:19,679
» Do we want to agendaize that? Yeah, we
general. I think we should.

1191
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:23,920
» Is that help, Gary, or is that getting
is that problematic?

1192
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:26,159
» No, I I think that that's good. Thank
you.

1193
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:30,719
» Yeah. Then we then we don't have any
discussion. We don't. If we do, we do.

1194
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:36,159
» Right. Right. Exactly.
>> All right.

1195
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:40,400
Anyone else?
Everybody good?

1196
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:44,320
» All right.
Looks like we're

1197
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:48,560
» so for the next so for the next agenda
we're going to include uh the recurring

1198
01:24:46,719 --> 01:24:52,800
the recurring items along with
additional items to discuss the rate

1199
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:55,120
study progress a fluent a feasibility
study and reviewing the committee scope.

1200
01:24:54,639 --> 01:24:59,199
Correct.
>> Correct.

1201
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:05,199
» Everybody good with that? Just just to
clarify when we're reviewing the the

1202
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:10,320
scope is we're going to
>> we'll get some more detail on on and

1203
01:25:07,748 --> 01:25:12,400
[snorts] a little breakdown of that. So
we have uh and that's what you guys are

1204
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,120
looking for.
>> I think so just so we know where our

1205
01:25:14,239 --> 01:25:18,400
limits are here.
>> Okay.

1206
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:22,320
» Or how we can put other agenda items on
for display.

1207
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:27,679
» Okay. All right. Would there be would
there be anything um that you that you

1208
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:31,920
all would want to remove from um the
next agenda because um you might want to

1209
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:36,400
talk about the rate study a little more
in depth and uh some of the recurring

1210
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:42,080
items there there just might not be um
many updates on such as uh like ongoing

1211
01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:48,320
projects or the 5-year capital plan or
um uh power and consumption updates. Uh

1212
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:52,719
those are usually um not a whole lot of
updates regarding those. So maybe you

1213
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:56,080
might want to take some of those off for
the next meeting and focus more on rate

1214
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:59,440
study. Just a suggestion.
>> I'd be willing to do that. As far as the

1215
01:25:58,639 --> 01:26:04,800
uh I [clears throat] don't know about
the uh the uh amount of electricity and

1216
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:07,760
water we use. I mean that's I always
find that interesting. But the other

1217
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:12,320
two, the capital improvement fund and
the um um what was the other one?

1218
01:26:11,199 --> 01:26:15,920
» Ongoing ongoing uh project
>> ongoing projects. Yeah. I' I'd be

1219
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:20,400
willing to forgo those for this next
meeting because of the length of the

1220
01:26:17,679 --> 01:26:23,840
meeting if you guys are okay with that.
>> Yeah, because if we talk we're going to

1221
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:26,960
be talking about those in detail in the
rate like I agree with Josh. Those could

1222
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,120
be
>> a ter.

1223
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:40,159
» What's a pleasure? What's a pleasure? Do
we want to take off item two and

1224
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:43,440
temporarily take off items two and two
and four? Or if you don't if you don't

1225
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:47,679
think we need to hear about the power
and water usage is that

1226
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:50,639
» I'm okay if you
>> I'd almost like to get the reports.

1227
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,440
» Yeah, if we just
>> I could still send the reports but if

1228
01:26:52,239 --> 01:26:58,080
you don't want it on the agenda.
>> Yeah, I think it'd be nice to get you

1229
01:26:55,440 --> 01:27:01,920
know it'd be nice to get the information
for two, three, and four. We don't

1230
01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:05,840
necessarily have to have them on the
agenda. Can we do that?

1231
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:11,199
» Of course. And that that information is
readily available on um uh the

1232
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:12,880
dashboards that I provided u many u
meetings ago.

1233
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:16,000
» Easy to get to.
>> I'm sure it is. But it's easy for you to

1234
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:19,920
get them.
>> That's with my problem as well.

1235
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:21,679
» I already missed the one because I
>> I couldn't see good enough.

1236
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:25,679
» Yeah.
>> Glasses on, glasses off.

1237
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:29,760
» We can uh blind uh send out an email.
>> I I'd rather have us, you know, big bold

1238
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:33,840
letters. There's the here's the
>> Okay. Because otherwise Yeah. I've I've

1239
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:38,960
been on that I haven't been on that
website for or that link for a while and

1240
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:43,280
it was not that
>> usually to be used first the last time I

1241
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,280
used it. It may have improved
>> because I haven't used it for a long

1242
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,880
time. So
>> no problem.

1243
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:53,600
» I think we're uh anything else on the
>> I think we're I think we're ready. So

1244
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:57,600
we're going to remove items
>> or just just for info. We don't have to

1245
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,360
» we want information on items two, three,
and four. We're going to take them off

1246
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,000
the agenda.
>> Not to discuss, right? We're going to

1247
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,760
take them off the agenda for the next
meeting.

1248
01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:06,400
» Well, I don't know if you take them off.
If you want the information or you just

1249
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,840
want to email us the information, can
you

1250
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,840
» I can email it to you.
>> Yeah, if you could just email then

1251
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:14,080
that'd be great.
>> We can take them off then.

1252
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:16,400
» But let's make sure we need them back on
when we need them.

1253
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,560
» Oh, yeah. Just for this next upcoming
meeting.

1254
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:22,000
» So, right. So, we'll make sure in the
following meeting they're back on

1255
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:26,719
possibly.
>> All right. Cool. Everybody ready for

1256
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:30,719
that? Does that make Sounds like we're
rolling to an end?

1257
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:36,719
Sounds good.
>> All right. I'm going to uh

1258
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:40,960
I'm going to move into the next level of
public comment. Each person will have

1259
01:28:39,199 --> 01:28:45,440
three minutes to speak at discretion of
the chair. Comments for during the

1260
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:50,320
public comment period. Agenda may be on
any subject

1261
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:57,600
that's that they want to discuss. So,
we'll open that up again right now. Uh,

1262
01:28:54,320 --> 01:29:01,320
please call in if you'd like to on phone
call would be 702-589-9629.

1263
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:12,040
That's a call in for the public comment
period after the meeting. Uh, a post

1264
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:12,040
meeting uh 702-589-9629

1265
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:19,520
and we'll wait a minute or so here to
see if anybody calls in. There is no one

1266
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:24,719
present in the chambers other than who's
here at this point. So,

1267
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:30,679
no comments from the gallery it looks
like at this point. So, please call in

1268
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,679
if you want to

1269
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:18,320
I think we're good. All right. Yep. We
just about a good minute there. Uh we're

1270
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:24,560
going No more public comment. Uh do we
need a motion for adjournment?

1271
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:27,840
» Ready, everyone? We're done. All right.
Me is ajourned.

1272
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,280
» Thanks. [clears throat]
>> Thanks a lot, Howard. Appreciate

1273
01:30:29,679 --> 01:30:33,520
» it. See you guys. Have a good trip,
Larry.

1274
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,600
» Thanks.
>> All right.