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Whoever had dreams. Oh, yikes. Hope he's okay. I have

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dreams that I'm in this building, that stairs are collapsing

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at some clients. Can you hear me now?

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Which I have had ever since 2013. Yeah, that was

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a little. Can you hear me out there? We do?

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Louder, okay? Sure enough. Check one shooting.

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More louder. Cutting surgery. How about now? Welcome, everyone, to

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today's Boulder County Parks and open space advisory committee meeting.

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We've reached our start time. These meetings are held hybrid

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via in a hybrid format via zoom webinar in just

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a moment, I will start the webinar. Please note that

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it takes typically about 30 seconds for zoom to bring.

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Members of the public into this session as attendees. Just

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a friendly reminder to all PosTC members, presenters and public

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speakers, please make sure within two inches of the microphone

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when speaking. This helps us ensure, when we maintain an

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accurate public record. Members of the committee. Are you ready?

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Yes. Recording in progress. All right, we are recording. And

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you could start whenever. All right. Welcome, everybody, to the

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Thursday, January 26, Parks and open Space advisory committee meeting.

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My name is Janet George and I'll be chairing tonight.

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Our past chairman. Is pretty happy. But with that, I

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will start by saying I want to give a big

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thank. You to our past chairman, Tony Lewis, who actually

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did more than a year. For a variety of reasons.

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And covered for me at the last meeting, too, so

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thanks a bunch. Tony, you can be a hard act

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to follow. All right. Yeah, let's do a round of

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applause. All right, so that was our call to order.

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The next thing is our roll call. So trace baker.

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Excused, Carol Byerly. Excused, Janet. George, I'm present. Christine Johnson.

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Present. Vicky Lawrence, present. Tony lewis here. Joan lutz here.

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And John White here. All right. Derek Turner. Oh, Derek

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Turner. How does that. Thanks to her. All right, next

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agenda item is approval of the monthly minutes from last

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month. Did everybody read them? Do I have a motion?

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Christine johnson. I did not. Get the mentioned organization chart?

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Did anyone else. Joan. Lots. Pose, act. No. First got

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done. I think Vicky Lawrence Posak, I think some of

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us got it in our notebook because we're new. All

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right. Renata, can we get that? Okay. I have a

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question. Hi, this is Vivian. Parks and open space. Are

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you talking about the new. Organization. I sent that during

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the last meeting in an email. But I can resend

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it. Christine. So you didn't get it. Okay, I'll. Get

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it to you. Thank you. It's still in its rough

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form of just the big block. Yeah, and I searched

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for your name, and I didn't see it. Yeah, it

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doesn't. Have an EMC. No, I mean from you. Oh,

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okay. I searched my trash, okay? Is that different than

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this one? Yeah, it's blue. It's a real rough draft.

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Kind of sketch down. Yeah, I got a blue one

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in. This one. Yeah. Okay. All right, so it's in

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our email or about to be in christine's case. Thank

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you. In that case, I don't have a problem with

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the minutes. All right. Do we have anyone want to

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make a motion to approve them? So moved. So moved.

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Second. All right, let's do a vote on approving the

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minutes as they are written. All in favor? Aye. Now

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that I said I sent a correction to Renata, there

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is a grammatical error. But nothing of substance. Okay. All

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right. But otherwise. I. I'm sure Renata will make that

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change. She's got it. Thank you. For that, John. All

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right. Minutes are approved with the correction that John has

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asked for. Presentations. Our first presentation will be the Cliffside

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property acquisition. And Tina Burkhart will be doing that. And

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just an interesting note on this is that even though

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it's a property acquisition, it's information only. It's not one

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that we are making a recommendation on because of the

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funding source. Because of the funding source, and I suspect

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we'll hear some more about that? Yes. Okay. Good evening.

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My name is tina burker. Land officer supervisor. So I'm

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excited to talk to you about this Cliffside acquisition, but

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first, I'd like to read our land acknowledgment for much

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longer than parks and open space's history of stewarding open

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space, the land in this community has been important. To

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american indian, urban, native, indigenous and other cultural communities that

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continue to live here. We are making meaningful changes to

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how we do our work that includ. Include them, incorporate

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the perspectives, and honor their land stewardship. Legacy parks and

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open space operates within modern legal constructs of landownership to

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Stuart Boulder county open space and accomplish these efforts on

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behalf of our community. As I mentioned, I'm here to

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provide you the details of our proposal to acquire fee.

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Title property to approximately 53 acres of vacant land for

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its appraised value of $1.16. Million. The Cliffside property is

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located northeast of Lions. That red circle is the general

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area of the property. It is located on Stone Canyon

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Road and adjacent to the county south down Indian Mountain

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open space property. And it is bordered on two sides

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by county open space. The Neil property to the north

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and as I mentioned, the southbound indian mountain property to

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the east and BLM land is to the south. Acquisition

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of this property would complete open space acquisition efforts on

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the west side of dow flat. What are you seeing?

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You're seeing that one? Okay. Here is a closer view

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of the parcel. That road. On the east side there

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is Stone Canyon Road. The property has an address of

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1810 Stone Canyon road and is located about one and

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three quarter miles north of Highway 36. It is owned

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by Cindy and David Johnson. The property did have a

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residence, but it was burned. In the stone canyon fire

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and has since been cleaned up and is now vacant.

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This acquisition will be paid for with conservation trust fund

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or state lottery dollars, and that purchase price of one

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point. $16 million for the 53 acre proceed. Includes one

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development. Right. And all minerals. The photo that you're looking

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at here is looking mostly south. And the road you

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see. There is Stone Canyon Road. Here. Is an aerial

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of the property. It looks very brown. But you can

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see the driveway and where the residence was sort of

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right below. The red pin there. And that's where the

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residents once stood. And you can see the burn scars.

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Kind of above that, which is actually to the east

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because it's north is to the left and then further

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east. Is a whole row of relatively steep cliffs, hence

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the name. Here's a nice winter shot. I think this

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is looking northwest from the property. And then this view

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is from the property, looking uphill and east, and you

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can see the edge of the residence that used to

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be. There prior to closing. A phase one environmental assessment

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report will be completed to confirm that no environmental hazards

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exist on the property. And I'm going to go through

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our comp plan designations next. But there's. A nice photo.

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So the Cliffside property has several comp plan designations. The

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first is it's entirely in the Rabbit Mountain. Rabbit Mountain

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Environmental conservation area. And the entire property is in a

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high biodiversity area with a b one score of outstanding

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significance. In the northwest portion of the property lies in

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an agriculturally, archaeologically sensitive area. And we have a few

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more designations. The property is entirely in the rabbit mountain

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natural area, and most of the property on the west

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side contains significant agricultural lands of local importance. So this

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property is currently used for private passive recreation. As I

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mentioned, there used to be residence. On there. As for

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future uses, the property could be managed as part of

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the rabbit mountain complex. But since it lies on the

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west side of indian mountain, it could also be managed

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as a separate property if the county were to decide

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to use it as part of its land restoration. Efforts

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with a native tribal nation like the adjacent south town

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indian mountain property. This property will be closed to the

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public. Is it? And I'm happy to answer any questions

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that you might have. All right. John, go ahead. John

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white. Is there an open space map online? Because I

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went up to the site today and looking around. And

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all I have is the big county open space map

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and. I was trying to figure out where it fits.

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Here are awesome. They're perfect. But when I try to

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zoom in on. Is there a way to zoom in?

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Yes. This might be out of my knowledge base, but

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there isn't. A public, online, web based county open space

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map where you can, I believe, put in different open

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space parcels, and it's a gis map, and we have

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our whole gis team. Here. Go ahead. Good evening. Janice

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Wisman, real estate division manager. I'll just chime in and

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add. That properties that we bring to you are not

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going to be on the public map until after we

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go. To this meeting and then also to the hearing,

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and then close on the property, and then they'll be

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added to the map, so you will never be able

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to find them on the county's website until we've closed,

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yeah. But. It said in your description. It said it's

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between this open space property and this BLM. I was

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just trying to figure out where it fits. Right. And

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so the maps that Tina is referencing that are online.

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You can zoom in on those. There's an interactive map

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that you can do probably best. On from a computer

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to get a more easy description of what you're looking

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at, but you could do it on a phone. As

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well. I'll do it on the computer. Thanks. Okay. Thank

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you. I'll get Christine next. Christine johnson poseack I'm wondering.

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About the severity of the fire. And any possible impacts

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to the plant community. And the rest of the site.

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one environmental assessment and presumably. We'll discover anything that might

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have happened. It's my understanding, though, that. The residents and

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where the fire was. That's been cleaned. And cleaned up

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as much as it can be. And I don't know

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how far. What it did to the rest of the

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property, but again, We'll hopefully find that out next week.

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Thanks. Vicky. Vicky Lawrence Posek. My question is, why is

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this being paid for by lottery funds? What's the difference

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what has made the payment method for this? So this

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is just my curiosity. Different. It's to preserve the flexibility

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of future use of the property. If this property were

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to be part of the county's new efforts of land

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restoration. To give it to a native tribal nation that

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is not an open space use. And so if we

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use conservation trust fund dollars, Then we can keep it

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in open space, but we have more flexibility down the

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road as to what to do with the property. Thank

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you. All right. Tony. Tony lewis. Thanks, Tina, for the

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presentation. The total amount is. 1.16, right? I'm just

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trying to understand. So the acre fee is 20,121, which

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gets you to 1000. And 60,000. The mineral rights are

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100,000. So that all adds up. It says. One building,

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right? At a million 60. But the billing, right, is

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just contained within the acreage, correct? It is. It's just

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two ways of looking at how to value a property.

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We tend to look at properties from a per acre

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value, but also per building right value. And iterate somewhere

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close. In this case, there was an appraisal done, and

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that was. A number. Okay, so it's one in the

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same, in essence. I'm curious. And this may be a

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Janice question. With the building, right? Does that just remain

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intact? For as long as it's conservation land, trust land,

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and now pos land. Once this deal is done. There

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it goes. Hi. Janice Wisman again. I think I'm understanding

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your question, but if I don't. Get it. Refine it

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for me. Okay. So the county does acquire the building

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right with the property. It doesn't sit on the property

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anymore because it's no longer usable there, but. The county

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still holds that building, right? We do not give that

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building right back to any other land. We don't move

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it somewhere else. So it's not technically there and usable

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anymore because it's now open space and. It's not usable

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elsewhere because it's open space, but the county owns and

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buys. That interest from the private landowner, which removes it

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from the possibility of having a house on it. Also

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because the county has purchased the property itself. Tell me,

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Louis Posek, is that always the case, Dan? But.

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It's no longer officially attached to that property and usable.

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Why? Because. We don't put houses on open space, but

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we do. Put residences. Times. Whole other conversation about the

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caretaker residents that we've done once. That was a property

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that was acquired with the idea of putting a residence

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on it. This is about open space. And buying property

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and removing the building rights from them. They're still in

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the county's. Asset. And the value of the asset is

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still there, but. It's not dedicated to that property anymore.

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It's been lifted as a possibility. And is that always

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the case with every open space purchase? And. Is that

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department policy or. Is that superseded by some other. Regulation

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or statute or, like, why? Because it relates to. All

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of the properties that we purchased with sales tax and.

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So that's the law, that when we buy something for

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sales tax, it has to be. Set aside for an

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open space use. And then the policy and practice part

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of it is applied. If we buy something with CTF,

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money, Conservation trust fund money or general fund money, which

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is very, both of those are very rare. So is

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it possible to purchase those properties? With Conservation Trust fund.

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Or general op money and keep the building permit intact.

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So general fund money, yes. General ops money, no. Ops

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and capital are different. This is capital. Okay? If we

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had general funding allocation from the board to acquire a

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piece of property, then, yes, we could do something different

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if we programmatically in department policy wise decided to do

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that. But our internal policy and our practice to keep

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our open space program intact is to treat every property

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essentially as open space, regardless of whether we're using those

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other sources and we've only done those other sources a

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handful of times over the county's 50 years of having

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a department. Okay? Not to go too far down. This

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rabbit hole. Sorry. Trying to understand. On an ag purchase.

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Let's say this was an ag property, 53 acres. And

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it had one building. Right. Does that automatically also expire

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on that property but is still held by the county.

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It could be usable if we felt that we needed.

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But that's where you get into the nuance that we've

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talked about over months and months with the lawyers about

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how you need to actually have the house on the

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property. Rather than just the building. Right. In order to

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use that building. Right. So. You have to then rehab

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the house and make it into what's livable for a

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tenant. Because we're not in the business of buying houses

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or providing housing. We're in the business of acquiring open

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space and acquiring housing that goes with a piece of

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property that we have to buy can be used for

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open space purposes, or it can be carved off and

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sold. Which we've done many, many times, where we felt

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like we didn't need the house. Okay. Thank you very

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much. It helps. Yeah. I think I still have questions

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that we can talk. About later still about policy versus

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sales tax language versus. Trying to figure the bottom line

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to think about is if we use sales tax for

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it, it's legally not going to be usable there. And

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then if we use these other funds, which I say

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we've only done a small handful of times. That's a

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possibility that's where the bright line is. Great. Thank you.

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Thanks. All right. Derek. Derek Turner. I guess I'm curious

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about the funding as well. Is there a pool of

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trust fund money that. Was allocated to the county. Is

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this a grant that's been applied for? This. Janice whiskeman

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again. I'll just stay up here. So the Colorado lottery.

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Has obviously proceeds from the lottery program. 50% of that

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goes to great outdoors Colorado and gets allocated out on

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a grant making basis for all the things that great

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outdoors Colorado. Goko does if you're familiar with that. The

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other 50%? Is allocated. Around the state. By municipality and

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county, so all the governments get a share of that

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money based on a per capita basis, so that gets

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divvied up that way. The county's allocation is around $515,000

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a year, and we typically have saved that for things

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we can't use sales tax money for, so it builds

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up over time. At the end of last year, the

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balance was just under $4.7 million. And then each year,

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The Office of Financial Management budgets that $515,000 for us

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to use if we want to. And then when we

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need more, we just ask for a budget amendment, which

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is what? We're doing in this case. Thanks. Because we

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have the fund balance. Okay. I am curious a little

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bit about the. I understand it's information only because of

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the funding source. I wasn't aware that that's kind of.

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If that's in. The bylaws or otherwise. Just a policy.

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It feels like this is an open space use. And

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is certainly relevant. To the program. But maybe just a

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knit to pick. That. We only actually give recommendations if

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it's open space dollars. Is that Janice Wisman again? That's

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correct, because that's in the sales tax language that it

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set up the relationship. For the advisory committee to do

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is give recommendations for use of sales tax funding. It's

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particularly important, as you know, when we. Have a disposition

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which is a carve off for road widening or utility

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taking or something like that. There's a specific section that

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requires. That. So we do that, and that's why we

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bring you everything that we're going. To spend sales tax

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money on. And then we're here now because we want

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you to. Know about these other things. We do something

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similar when we get a donation? And we did get

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a donation of a conservation easement interest this month, and

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Heidi is going to tell you about it because she's

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our acting director tonight, so we want to tell you

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about those as well. But it streamlines the process significantly.

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For us to be able to work quickly on these

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real estate timings. To do the deals and get those

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things done quickly. Without having to time it so that

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we can wait for the next POSAc meeting. This particular

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one. We haven't closed one yet, but sometimes we might

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have to do that really fast and. So that's why

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we have. A practice of bringing these to you as

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information items. Thanks. Final evaluation. Well, I guess maybe a

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change of subject, because. I remember, I think. At either

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a previous meeting. Wanting to know a little more about

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the preamble and the Boulder county's commitment. To working. With.

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Native, indigenous and other cultural communities. And you mentioned the

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potential future possibilities for list land. I remember hearing the

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same thing about haystack. Mountain. I would love sometime maybe

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later this year, this winter, to have a presentation on

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that subject information. Only. Just to tell us a little

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more about maybe what you're thinking about. As an aside,

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I've heard through some folks that I know that work.

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In this field that Boulder county recently hired somebody who

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I hear is really fantastic at tribal consultations. And I

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don't know. If we could hear from her, that would

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be great. Janice whispering again, I'll give you a nutshell

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today and say that absolutely at some point, we could

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give you an update. It is on a slow roll,

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though, because it took the county quite a while to

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find this. Person. Her name is Karen Wilde, and she's

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been on the job for maybe just a few weeks.

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She works directly. In the office of county administrator. And

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very closely for the board. And the board is just

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starting to. Consider how it might do land restoration, which

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is the phrase that we're using right now. Because. It's

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not land reparations. Reparations usually is about cash, so we're.

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Trying to differentiate that, and we are starting to do

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things like this where this property happens. To be adjacent

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to what's technically called south down because that's the precursor

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to CMax, which was the owner at the time. That

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we got the property, but it's known as indian mountain,

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and it is very important. To all of the tribes

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that used to be here, and so there are some

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restrictions on use. For that. We can't have the public

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there, but we can allow the tribes. And native american

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use to happen. So the board right now, our commissioners.

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They're just getting started on what does this look like

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and how would we do this? And so what you've

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heard about. I know Derek is the Haystack Mountain property.

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Because that's an iconic landmark, not just for those of

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us who are here now, but to those who were

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here for eons before us. And so the question. Has

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percolated to the point where. Not only has Karen been

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hired to work on tribal relations in general, but one

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of her projects and it's only one of her projects

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is going to be helping the county develop a strategy

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for this land restoration process. And I'm going to be

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involved in that to the extent that. They need. Our

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real estate assistance. Tina's already helped me so far because

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she went to a meeting. When I was on vacation.

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So the two of us are going to be involved

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in that? We have barely gotten started working on that.

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We have no idea what the commissioners might want to

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do for direction on that. There's been no conversation yet

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with the full board. So whether we be ready to

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do something this fall or maybe, perhaps by. Your next

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retreat or sometime next year. I just don't know it's

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going to. Take a long time because Karen is wonderful

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as she is. There's only one person and she's got

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all kinds of other things. She's doing for the travel

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relations effort that the county is making. Thank you for

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that update. That's really helpful. All right, Posac. Any more

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questions? Vicky, did you have one? Pretty much. What? Okay.

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Very good. All right. Thank you. Do we have anybody

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in house that wants to make a public comment? See

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no one. Do we have anybody online that wants to

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make a comment? Yeah. Those on the zoom call. If

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you would like to make comments on the current agenda

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item. Please use the raised hand feature so we can

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call on you. I don't see any raised hands. All

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right. Postac any more discussion? Last chance or questions? All

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right. Thank you. Thank you very much, Tina, great presentation.

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And, Janice, thanks for all the extra. Information. All right.

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Agenda item 4.2 is Asset Management System implementation progress report.

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And we'll have Christy given us the lowdown on this.

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And this is another information only item.

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Hi. My name is Christy Spielman. I am here to

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give you an asset management system update. I've been with

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Boulder county for a little over 18 months, and I'm

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here. Joined by both several other members of my team

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from the data solutions. So. I have an intern, Nolan,

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who's in the room here, and Meredith Williams, my supervisor.

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The manager for the data solutions team. We are part

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of the Strategics foundations team on the planning side. Of

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the organization. So I started my career as a GIS

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analyst. So, again, geographic information system. So you saw. The

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maps. It's all data. That is maps based. And now,

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over the years, I've pivoted to become an asset management

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system coordinator. And for an organization like Boulder county parks

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and open space, of course, it's necessary to show where.

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The stuff is that we manage. So it is a

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map based. So this journey began well before I was

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hired. In fact, I was hired. When it was realized

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that we needed an asset management system. There were many

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strategic planning efforts that happened starting around 2019. And then

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a needs assessment, and then in 2023, Was realized or

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end of 2022, that Public Works was also looking to

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acquire an asset management system. And so we joined efforts.

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And so the system that we are implementing now, we're

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doing it alongside our public works. Counterparts and with some

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help from it. But I am housed in parks and

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open space, and then I was hired at the end

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of 2023. To start the implementation process, identifying what assets

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we have. Starting to talk about asset management system kind

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of asset management principles. And starting the change management. And

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now we're in 2020. And so we spent all of

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last year unsiloing data, our geographic information system data classifying

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and configuring and starting the training, and then really 2025,

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we started training and using and tweaking and so this

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is going to be. A long journey, and we're going

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to grow with this system. So you'll see this. Bear

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section of the slide. You've probably seen it before of

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the strategic lenses that the department developed in 2021 as

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part of. Some strategic planning. And one of those. There's

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four. And you'll hear more about them from Tina in

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the next presentation. But one of the key ones was

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the maintenance backlog. And trying to focus on taking care

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of what we have. And part of that you'll see

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in the strategies here. Identify or inventorying what our assets

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are again, out there on the landscape, our fences, our

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gates. Our drive, our access roads and vegetation management areas.

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So an asset management system is very useful for that

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and then identifying standards and level of service, which is

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part of the outcomes, addressing gaps between existing and desired

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conditions. So having conversations about what our desired cond? Conditions

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are. How do we assess conditions and things like that?

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Are all supported by implementing this asset management system. So

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just to go back a step. And give the sort

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of global standard definitions of an asset is a thing

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or entity that has potential or actual value to an

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organization. And asset management. I love this definition, but it's

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the coordinated activity of an organization to realize value from

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assets. So it's everything that we do, really. Is a

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form of asset management. And, of course, the department has

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been coordinating our activities to realize value from assets since

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we began, but it's much harder to coordinate a department

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of 200. People than it is one of ten people.

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So we have reached a maturity level in a size

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where this. System of record. Is helpful. And so the

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00:32:24,953 --> 00:32:29,185
goal is that this will help us achieve. Our departmental

472
00:32:29,185 --> 00:32:34,385
mission and goals by strategically and proactively prioritizing and coordinating

473
00:32:34,385 --> 00:32:36,985
the work we do to assets that are efficient in

474
00:32:36,985 --> 00:32:41,065
ways that are efficient, cost effective, and minimally disruptive. To

475
00:32:41,065 --> 00:32:45,184
both the environment and the community. So that's just kind

476
00:32:45,184 --> 00:32:48,304
of the foundation of what we're trying to do with

477
00:32:48,304 --> 00:32:54,279
this asset management system. And. We're also building it to

478
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:59,024
be a system of record for the long term. So

479
00:32:59,024 --> 00:33:02,784
that means we're setting up, we hope, future employees of

480
00:33:02,784 --> 00:33:06,584
Boulder county parks and open space with information that will

481
00:33:06,584 --> 00:33:10,264
help them understand when roofs of our barns were last

482
00:33:10,264 --> 00:33:14,624
replaced and when garage doors may be in extra need.

483
00:33:16,046 --> 00:33:19,966
Of being replaced so that we can try to move

484
00:33:19,966 --> 00:33:24,846
to a more proactive approach to managing these things as

485
00:33:24,846 --> 00:33:28,766
opposed to reactive. As you know, reactive work can be

486
00:33:28,766 --> 00:33:34,366
extremely disruptive to everybody. Staff you. And so that's the

487
00:33:34,366 --> 00:33:37,395
goal too, is to try. To build a system that

488
00:33:37,395 --> 00:33:43,059
is transparent across the organization. So that everybody has more

489
00:33:43,059 --> 00:33:48,171
information and can start planning. And then this is just

490
00:33:48,171 --> 00:33:53,171
a quick slide showing the key components of every asset

491
00:33:53,171 --> 00:33:56,571
management system that I've ever worked with. I've now implemented

492
00:33:56,571 --> 00:34:00,211
four different ones. I've never gotten to choose the actual

493
00:34:00,211 --> 00:34:03,611
system. I've always been hired after it was chosen, but

494
00:34:03,611 --> 00:34:09,237
that's okay. It's all kind of the same. So one

495
00:34:09,237 --> 00:34:13,077
is identifying the assets, such as the Delonde barn, one

496
00:34:13,077 --> 00:34:16,957
of our favorite assets. Out there and then also identifying

497
00:34:16,957 --> 00:34:20,054
what are the activities that we do. Our tasks, our

498
00:34:20,054 --> 00:34:25,286
work, our activities. And then the other work orders. Everybody

499
00:34:25,286 --> 00:34:29,046
talks in terms of work orders, really, what work orders

500
00:34:29,046 --> 00:34:32,206
are? Collection of activities, right? Like, I'm going to this

501
00:34:32,206 --> 00:34:36,126
barn and I'm going to. Replace the roof and fix

502
00:34:36,126 --> 00:34:39,973
some boards here or whatever. It's a list of activities,

503
00:34:39,973 --> 00:34:44,613
and then requests are things that can be either internal

504
00:34:44,613 --> 00:34:47,773
or. External requests, and I'll talk about that a little

505
00:34:47,773 --> 00:34:52,490
bit in a second. And where we can gather input

506
00:34:52,490 --> 00:34:57,017
from others on work. That maybe we should try to

507
00:34:57,017 --> 00:35:03,986
work into our work plan. So Boulder county selected. A

508
00:35:03,986 --> 00:35:06,666
company when they were going through the selection process, they

509
00:35:06,666 --> 00:35:10,386
were looking at cartograph. You'll see the name there. Cardigraph

510
00:35:10,386 --> 00:35:14,346
has been around. Was established in 1994. It's. Been an

511
00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:19,055
industry standard leader. In geographically based asset management systems for

512
00:35:19,055 --> 00:35:23,055
local governments for 30 years. Over 30 years, they were

513
00:35:23,055 --> 00:35:27,988
purchased by Opengov, which provides. Whose mission is to provide.

514
00:35:29,453 --> 00:35:33,413
Software systems for local governments that are directly tailored for

515
00:35:33,413 --> 00:35:39,858
our unique challenges. So it's kind of confusing. And here.

516
00:35:40,961 --> 00:35:44,372
Is. A little sneak peek of some of the things

517
00:35:44,372 --> 00:35:47,772
that we have in our asset management system today. So

518
00:35:47,772 --> 00:35:51,918
this was just taken today. So kind of cool to

519
00:35:51,918 --> 00:35:56,953
see it all on a map there and then. The

520
00:35:56,953 --> 00:35:59,593
next few slides sort of give an overview of some

521
00:35:59,593 --> 00:36:03,553
of the assets that we have started. To identify and

522
00:36:03,553 --> 00:36:08,118
implement into the system. And. There's kind of, in geographic

523
00:36:08,118 --> 00:36:10,958
sense, we think of points, lines and polygons. So points.

524
00:36:12,363 --> 00:36:16,390
Are anything. Like our water structures or signs or an

525
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:20,902
obvious or tree sites, culverts. Things that are mapped using

526
00:36:20,902 --> 00:36:26,987
a point, lines, fences, access roads, dams and spillways. Actually,

527
00:36:26,987 --> 00:36:33,104
technically, culverts are lined. And then polygons or our container

528
00:36:33,104 --> 00:36:36,304
assets. And one of the beautiful things about this particular

529
00:36:36,304 --> 00:36:40,304
asset management system is as we mature, we will be

530
00:36:40,304 --> 00:36:44,371
able to. Give great reports on what are all of

531
00:36:44,371 --> 00:36:47,931
the assets at a farm lease and what eventually will

532
00:36:47,931 --> 00:36:52,173
have costs and condition. And really start to dig in

533
00:36:52,173 --> 00:36:55,373
and plan the work that we need to do to

534
00:36:55,373 --> 00:36:58,942
take care. Of what we have. Layer. On top of

535
00:36:58,942 --> 00:37:03,102
that are requests and work tasks that are also geographic

536
00:37:03,102 --> 00:37:06,462
in nature. So we can start to tell stories about

537
00:37:06,462 --> 00:37:10,342
where are we having to respond to graffiti more frequently?

538
00:37:10,342 --> 00:37:15,777
Are there. Anything that we can do to help mitigate

539
00:37:15,777 --> 00:37:20,862
that concern. And it's also geographic in nature and tied

540
00:37:20,862 --> 00:37:25,222
to the asset. And then finally, underneath all of that

541
00:37:25,222 --> 00:37:30,444
because. This is associated with our GIS data. We can

542
00:37:30,444 --> 00:37:34,644
see all of these things in relation to other geographic

543
00:37:34,644 --> 00:37:40,825
information. So, for example. Here's another map that is showing

544
00:37:40,825 --> 00:37:45,553
our cast projects. You'll see and hear more. About. This

545
00:37:45,553 --> 00:37:51,073
in Tina's presentation. And the red circles behind those are

546
00:37:51,073 --> 00:37:54,753
raptor nesting areas and. So now staff who are doing

547
00:37:54,753 --> 00:37:58,953
these projects can see them and plan accordingly to when.

548
00:38:00,647 --> 00:38:07,822
Their least. Disruptive to the natural environment as well. So

549
00:38:07,822 --> 00:38:11,062
very exciting to have this business intelligence in a tool

550
00:38:11,062 --> 00:38:16,281
that's used every day. The other really cool thing. For

551
00:38:16,281 --> 00:38:20,922
this system in particular. Especially compared to those I've implemented

552
00:38:20,922 --> 00:38:23,882
in the past, is that it is now being designed

553
00:38:23,882 --> 00:38:27,602
to be mobile first. So all of this information is

554
00:38:27,602 --> 00:38:31,482
available to field staff wherever they are, even. If they

555
00:38:31,482 --> 00:38:35,966
don't have cell service. They can take information offline. They

556
00:38:35,966 --> 00:38:41,814
can complete tasks and add photos and. I'm really. Actually.

557
00:38:43,197 --> 00:38:45,797
The first one is the raptor nest, the middle one.

558
00:38:48,531 --> 00:38:50,931
Is kind of hard to read it, but it was

559
00:38:50,931 --> 00:38:54,571
very useful to our ag team because it's showing oil

560
00:38:54,571 --> 00:38:59,458
and gas. Structures that are often in the middle of

561
00:38:59,458 --> 00:39:02,938
some of our properties. And so it's very helpful. We

562
00:39:02,938 --> 00:39:06,018
don't manage that data, but it's helpful to see where

563
00:39:06,018 --> 00:39:09,178
they are. And then the third one is showing the

564
00:39:09,178 --> 00:39:12,978
burn fire perimeter. The final fire perimeter for the stone.

565
00:39:12,978 --> 00:39:17,703
Mountain fire, so you can imagine. If we have a

566
00:39:17,703 --> 00:39:19,943
fire and there's an active fire and we start to

567
00:39:19,943 --> 00:39:24,143
get the information about the fire perimeters. We can display

568
00:39:24,143 --> 00:39:27,983
that in the map that's available to staff immediately and

569
00:39:27,983 --> 00:39:33,428
start to see right away what assets. Are in the

570
00:39:33,428 --> 00:39:36,348
path of that or that we need to start preparing

571
00:39:36,348 --> 00:39:43,872
for. So very important. For safety. Potentially too. Here's just

572
00:39:43,872 --> 00:39:48,184
to dig in a little bit deeper. So this is

573
00:39:48,184 --> 00:39:51,944
on our Barrett farm lease, one of the barns there.

574
00:39:51,944 --> 00:39:56,612
And so I just show this slide to show. How

575
00:39:56,612 --> 00:40:01,132
this team in particular had many spreadsheets. They knew their

576
00:40:01,132 --> 00:40:03,692
assets. It was all in their heads. They knew where

577
00:40:03,692 --> 00:40:07,692
they were. But we're trying to download all that information

578
00:40:07,692 --> 00:40:13,289
and. Again set up the future uses for success. And

579
00:40:13,289 --> 00:40:16,409
they really liked that they could start to put everything

580
00:40:16,409 --> 00:40:19,480
in one place. So again, this is a system of

581
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,118
record. We're keeping track of building structure information and the

582
00:40:24,118 --> 00:40:30,038
details about it. Who maintains. It and construction information. Access.

583
00:40:30,972 --> 00:40:34,452
And occupant information helpful to know where there are animal

584
00:40:34,452 --> 00:40:38,372
or pieces of equipment. Again, in times of emergency. And

585
00:40:38,372 --> 00:40:41,532
also helpful, we have some structures that aren't safe for

586
00:40:41,532 --> 00:40:46,183
staff. To enter for asbestos reasons. Or whatever it may

587
00:40:46,183 --> 00:40:50,987
be. And so we can put that here, too. Another

588
00:40:50,987 --> 00:40:54,587
example is here. You can see in the notes they

589
00:40:54,587 --> 00:40:59,947
posted a couple of links. This team uses drones to

590
00:40:59,947 --> 00:41:04,187
take kind of really detailed aerial imagery. And here is

591
00:41:04,187 --> 00:41:07,067
an example, one of those links takes you to this

592
00:41:07,067 --> 00:41:11,954
detailed aerial imag. Imagery, and this actually is very interactive.

593
00:41:11,954 --> 00:41:14,554
It's three d, and you can zoom in and. Fly

594
00:41:14,554 --> 00:41:18,274
around and see. So they use this to help figure

595
00:41:18,274 --> 00:41:23,248
out what kind of work needs to be done. And

596
00:41:23,248 --> 00:41:28,649
then this is an example. Where the team assessed this

597
00:41:28,649 --> 00:41:33,049
entire property, identified tasks or activities that needed to happen

598
00:41:33,049 --> 00:41:36,689
on several of these structures, bundled them together in a

599
00:41:36,689 --> 00:41:40,881
work order. Efficiently. They're taking care of all of the

600
00:41:40,881 --> 00:41:44,647
problems all at once, and we're keeping track of. When.

601
00:41:45,601 --> 00:41:48,521
One of the example was damaged roofing, and so we're

602
00:41:48,521 --> 00:41:57,535
keeping track of. Those things. So again. Just in

603
00:41:57,535 --> 00:42:01,935
2025, we're in this training using, we're in the middle

604
00:42:01,935 --> 00:42:05,975
of the heavy youth season right now, the field season,

605
00:42:05,975 --> 00:42:09,415
and in particular our signs and our weeds team. Are

606
00:42:09,415 --> 00:42:12,375
using this almost every day. We're going to learn a

607
00:42:12,375 --> 00:42:16,481
lot over the next several months. And our buildings and

608
00:42:16,481 --> 00:42:21,601
historic preservation are using it. Our trailhead operations team and

609
00:42:21,601 --> 00:42:26,845
agricultural infrastructure teams are harder because. They take care of

610
00:42:26,845 --> 00:42:30,365
many different types of assets, but they're starting to figure

611
00:42:30,365 --> 00:42:34,646
out how. To work this into theirs, and then. We're

612
00:42:34,646 --> 00:42:39,248
welcoming other work groups also, and eventually. We'll also have

613
00:42:39,248 --> 00:42:44,271
lots more reports and information coming out. So in the

614
00:42:44,271 --> 00:42:50,335
next twelve months. We hope. We expect to implement our

615
00:42:50,335 --> 00:42:54,899
trails and trail features. We have very good data about

616
00:42:54,899 --> 00:42:57,619
that in our GIS system, and we just need to

617
00:42:57,619 --> 00:43:00,819
implement this carefully into the asset management and do it

618
00:43:00,819 --> 00:43:08,357
right. We're hoping to inventory the fairgrounds assets. In coordination

619
00:43:08,357 --> 00:43:11,877
with Boulder county building Services, who are also implementing this.

620
00:43:11,877 --> 00:43:15,237
So it's great that we're building this knowledge base across

621
00:43:15,237 --> 00:43:19,461
the county of how to use this. And then we're

622
00:43:19,461 --> 00:43:25,061
exploring material management for our very innovative native seed collection

623
00:43:25,061 --> 00:43:28,807
and usage. I hope you get to hear about that

624
00:43:28,807 --> 00:43:35,114
someday. And then we will continue the journey. In identifying

625
00:43:35,114 --> 00:43:39,354
and building much more robust condition assessments and more monitoring.

626
00:43:40,875 --> 00:43:46,172
Activities. Adding replacement costs. So we've started to do that

627
00:43:46,172 --> 00:43:51,034
with our fencing. One key step is inventorying all your

628
00:43:51,034 --> 00:43:53,274
assets and knowing where they are. And so we're working

629
00:43:53,274 --> 00:43:59,173
through our fencing data. And then the work request workflows.

630
00:43:59,173 --> 00:44:03,484
So for those of you who. Management plan. Part of

631
00:44:03,484 --> 00:44:08,684
that was a request workflow. Even for external, that team

632
00:44:08,684 --> 00:44:12,604
already takes many requests, and so we're building that into

633
00:44:12,604 --> 00:44:19,130
our asset management system as well. And internal requests, too.

634
00:44:19,130 --> 00:44:22,570
Where one team asks for work from another team again,

635
00:44:22,570 --> 00:44:27,101
often happens with the weeds team. So we're learning about

636
00:44:27,101 --> 00:44:30,861
that and then trying to build out more dashboards and

637
00:44:30,861 --> 00:44:38,489
reports. This slide right before I close for questions. Is.

638
00:44:38,489 --> 00:44:42,449
It's actually a slide that comes from cardigraph to just

639
00:44:42,449 --> 00:44:47,730
kind of illustrate. The stages. Of asset management system maturity.

640
00:44:49,417 --> 00:44:53,920
You see the initial stage? Is the scenario where work

641
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,560
orders are paper based and handled manually. There's no central

642
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:02,126
repository. Of assets. Maintenance is reactive and decisions rely on

643
00:45:02,126 --> 00:45:06,730
the experience of the staff. We certainly were in that

644
00:45:06,730 --> 00:45:11,703
kind of environment, and. We are now working through most

645
00:45:11,703 --> 00:45:15,791
of the things. In stage two. I would like to

646
00:45:15,791 --> 00:45:19,534
highlight. That star in stage three, where we are aligned

647
00:45:19,534 --> 00:45:25,950
with the organization's strategic initiatives and goals. Thank goodness. I've

648
00:45:25,950 --> 00:45:28,190
done this in the past where those didn't exist, and

649
00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:31,510
it's. Very hard to implement an asset management system. But

650
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:34,030
here we have clear goals. We have a clear mission.

651
00:45:35,339 --> 00:45:38,930
And. We are keeping us grounded as we go down

652
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:42,290
this journey to ensure that we are doing what is

653
00:45:42,290 --> 00:45:49,694
outlined in that. So here's another example of a GIS

654
00:45:49,694 --> 00:45:54,798
dashboard of our 2026 cast projects. Just to get ready.

655
00:45:56,238 --> 00:46:00,522
And I have any question. All right. Thanks, Christy. That

656
00:46:00,522 --> 00:46:03,802
was really informative. It looks like a pretty cool program.

657
00:46:07,698 --> 00:46:12,241
To work on. So with that postac, we got any

658
00:46:12,241 --> 00:46:16,021
questions? It looks like Vicky's got one, right? Away. Vic

659
00:46:16,021 --> 00:46:19,701
Lord's posac. Christy, thank you so much. And I especially

660
00:46:19,701 --> 00:46:23,762
appreciated being a raptor nest monitor for many years. That

661
00:46:23,762 --> 00:46:28,522
you're marking raptor nest sites. And will you continue with

662
00:46:28,522 --> 00:46:32,042
maybe other wildlife like. I can think of where the

663
00:46:32,042 --> 00:46:36,202
elk migrate to and wander around. Maybe burrowing owls, which

664
00:46:36,202 --> 00:46:40,159
maybe you consider those in the raptor sites? And the

665
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:42,919
other thing would be. I guess you talked about weeds.

666
00:46:44,516 --> 00:46:47,636
Anyway, I just appreciate that you're doing that, I think,

667
00:46:47,636 --> 00:46:49,636
because I know we've had problems in the past with

668
00:46:49,636 --> 00:46:51,716
people go in to work on an irrigation ditch or

669
00:46:51,716 --> 00:46:54,276
something, not realizing that they're within a boundary of a

670
00:46:54,276 --> 00:47:00,731
raptor nest, things like that. Yeah, to respond to that.

671
00:47:02,034 --> 00:47:05,234
As I stated at the beginning, asset management is really

672
00:47:05,234 --> 00:47:10,965
everything. And can be anything. And so the answer. Is

673
00:47:10,965 --> 00:47:14,605
absolutely. We can consider showing where our assets are in

674
00:47:14,605 --> 00:47:21,127
relation to. These other natural systems or animals. Movement corridors.

675
00:47:22,408 --> 00:47:23,968
We haven't done that yet, but we're going to be.

676
00:47:25,588 --> 00:47:30,104
Maturing every year on this. And especially as we make

677
00:47:30,104 --> 00:47:33,864
more teams across the department aware of how this can

678
00:47:33,864 --> 00:47:37,664
be helpful and create that transparency. We have data on

679
00:47:37,664 --> 00:47:43,199
that for sure. It's just built into this yet. Thank

680
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:47,831
you. More questions. Tony Christy. Thank you. What a great

681
00:47:47,831 --> 00:47:51,699
presentation. It's really exciting for those of us who like

682
00:47:51,699 --> 00:47:56,621
to manage assets. I'm curious, and you may not know

683
00:47:56,621 --> 00:47:59,541
the answer to this, but it feels like you've. Latched

684
00:47:59,541 --> 00:48:04,701
onto this Opengov system or. I'm sorry, the name cardigraph.

685
00:48:04,701 --> 00:48:09,252
Cardigraph. It feels like there should be some synergy or

686
00:48:09,252 --> 00:48:14,809
efficiencies. Of the county doing this. Am I wrong in

687
00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:18,582
thinking like you all are moving forward, but. Like our

688
00:48:18,582 --> 00:48:21,782
other entities within the county. Totally. So public works and

689
00:48:21,782 --> 00:48:26,327
parks and open space. When I started here at Boulder

690
00:48:26,327 --> 00:48:34,635
County. It was a siloed organization. And this is the

691
00:48:34,635 --> 00:48:36,915
first time I've worked for a county, and so maybe

692
00:48:36,915 --> 00:48:41,455
it's. The nature of counties? I don't know. And Covid

693
00:48:41,455 --> 00:48:45,420
didn't help that, right? Collaboration has been challenging for the

694
00:48:45,420 --> 00:48:49,402
last several years. So I think that all points to

695
00:48:49,402 --> 00:48:52,642
there was a desire to implement the system to help

696
00:48:52,642 --> 00:48:56,286
solve some of those problems. So I came in and

697
00:48:56,286 --> 00:49:00,181
did a lot of listening. And for example, I forgot

698
00:49:00,181 --> 00:49:03,581
to mention, but we have unsiloed a couple of data

699
00:49:03,581 --> 00:49:07,955
sets. They're simple little data sets. But the impact of

700
00:49:07,955 --> 00:49:10,852
doing this. Is going to be kind of a big,

701
00:49:10,852 --> 00:49:13,656
it's kind of a big deal. One of them is

702
00:49:13,656 --> 00:49:17,216
gates and passages. Seems. Oh, that's so simple. Why do

703
00:49:17,216 --> 00:49:20,576
you even. Map gates and passages. Well, in times of

704
00:49:20,576 --> 00:49:26,234
emergency. Actually, everybody cares about gates and passages. And when

705
00:49:26,234 --> 00:49:30,634
I started to explore, well, should we put public works.

706
00:49:30,634 --> 00:49:34,034
Gates and passages with parks and open space. Gates and

707
00:49:34,034 --> 00:49:36,514
passages. I mean, that's a gate. Like, how hard can

708
00:49:36,514 --> 00:49:40,616
it be to define what it is? When I talk

709
00:49:40,616 --> 00:49:44,576
to the Rangers about this, they were thrilled because having

710
00:49:44,576 --> 00:49:48,936
one authoritative data set countywide for the gates and passages

711
00:49:48,936 --> 00:49:53,043
is a really big deal for emergency response. And so

712
00:49:53,043 --> 00:49:57,596
we're doing that countywide. I have a counterpart in public

713
00:49:57,596 --> 00:49:59,996
works who also was hired, just like I was, so.

714
00:50:03,502 --> 00:50:06,662
We're coming at this with. A very collaborative spirit. We

715
00:50:06,662 --> 00:50:10,778
don't know any better. And then another example that I

716
00:50:10,778 --> 00:50:16,211
heard from trailhead maintenance staff in particular is culverts. We

717
00:50:16,211 --> 00:50:19,051
don't know who maintains these coverts that are right in

718
00:50:19,051 --> 00:50:21,571
the road. But then they wash out. We're the ones

719
00:50:21,571 --> 00:50:23,891
who see the problems all the time, and we don't.

720
00:50:23,891 --> 00:50:26,331
Know if we're supposed to fix them. Who's supposed to

721
00:50:26,331 --> 00:50:30,975
fix them? We don't know who maintains culverts. So we've

722
00:50:30,975 --> 00:50:35,611
unsiloed coverts with transportation. And the goal is that we

723
00:50:35,611 --> 00:50:41,094
can clearly identify who's responsible for which assets. Not a

724
00:50:41,094 --> 00:50:45,067
big deal until it is a big deal. Thanks. That's

725
00:50:45,067 --> 00:50:49,469
super helpful. Second question, and then I have one more.

726
00:50:52,563 --> 00:50:56,323
Can you pull up a piece of. Can you pull

727
00:50:56,323 --> 00:51:02,542
up. A specific property. Let's say it's an ag property,

728
00:51:02,542 --> 00:51:05,502
and look at the ag infrastructure on that. Property and

729
00:51:05,502 --> 00:51:09,378
the condition. Maybe in the future. The condition of the

730
00:51:09,378 --> 00:51:13,378
fields or of the crops. Yes. So this is going.

731
00:51:13,378 --> 00:51:18,065
To be a journey. And this system. I don't have

732
00:51:18,065 --> 00:51:21,545
a slide showing that yet. Maybe if I come back

733
00:51:21,545 --> 00:51:27,630
regularly. I'll make that a goal. But cardigraph. Is designed

734
00:51:27,630 --> 00:51:31,470
to do exactly that. The value of all those assets.

735
00:51:31,470 --> 00:51:37,019
And we're starting to explore integrating this. Through our lease

736
00:51:37,019 --> 00:51:42,212
auditing process. And kind of developing a process where before

737
00:51:42,212 --> 00:51:45,212
a leaseholder signs a new lease, we assess the condition

738
00:51:45,212 --> 00:51:49,612
of the assets. We clarify maintenance responsibilities because it gets

739
00:51:49,612 --> 00:51:55,521
complicated for agricultural properties in particular. And have that transparent

740
00:51:55,521 --> 00:51:59,681
and documented here so that we're all in agreement about

741
00:51:59,681 --> 00:52:05,868
that. And then do a post lease assessment. That's awesome.

742
00:52:05,868 --> 00:52:12,827
That's really great. Last question. Is this data and are

743
00:52:12,827 --> 00:52:17,517
these GIS layers available to the public? So the system

744
00:52:17,517 --> 00:52:23,842
itself, the asset management system, No. That's kind of by

745
00:52:23,842 --> 00:52:27,767
design because there are some sensitive things in here. Our

746
00:52:27,767 --> 00:52:37,009
cultural resource. Things. It's good that. There's certain sensitive information.

747
00:52:37,009 --> 00:52:41,650
Yes, absolutely. But we can take pieces of that and.

748
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:46,679
Some of our GS data can be shared publicly, and

749
00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:52,734
so we're starting to do that. Amenities are. A bench.

750
00:52:53,436 --> 00:52:56,832
We can. Trails. And I think as we get the

751
00:52:56,832 --> 00:53:03,054
trail infrastructure migrated, Into here, then we'll see more and

752
00:53:03,054 --> 00:53:06,826
more of that. And more maps. That's great. I guess

753
00:53:06,826 --> 00:53:09,786
I'd put a plug in for trying. To put as

754
00:53:09,786 --> 00:53:13,106
much of this into the public realm as possible, understanding

755
00:53:13,106 --> 00:53:15,106
there's some sensitive data that you don't want to do

756
00:53:15,106 --> 00:53:17,718
that way for sure. But some of it would be

757
00:53:17,718 --> 00:53:21,918
really helpful. Yeah. Part of this is a modernization of

758
00:53:21,918 --> 00:53:27,038
some of these information systems, including our GIS system. We're

759
00:53:27,038 --> 00:53:30,558
just going through a modernization period and then the goal

760
00:53:30,558 --> 00:53:35,077
is definitely to provide more resources to everybody. This one's

761
00:53:35,077 --> 00:53:39,426
for staff. But a light version of something like this

762
00:53:39,426 --> 00:53:42,987
for the public, too. Thank you very much. Any other

763
00:53:42,987 --> 00:53:47,393
questions? Pose act members. See none. I have a question.

764
00:53:49,043 --> 00:53:51,003
So going back to the raptor nest, and this might

765
00:53:51,003 --> 00:53:54,043
be an example of some other things. Too. But what

766
00:53:54,043 --> 00:53:57,523
I'd like to know is look and just glancing at

767
00:53:57,523 --> 00:54:00,443
it there's. The raptor nest, and they're buffered. And not

768
00:54:00,443 --> 00:54:03,781
all buffers are equal. Right. So there's a bit of

769
00:54:03,781 --> 00:54:07,821
technical knowledge in there. And so how does that get

770
00:54:07,821 --> 00:54:11,781
in. Is there a layer, a Gis layer somewhere that

771
00:54:11,781 --> 00:54:13,981
gets pulled in and then the other. Part of that

772
00:54:13,981 --> 00:54:19,933
question. Is. Is there frequent review from the wildlife staff

773
00:54:19,933 --> 00:54:22,053
to make sure that it's current and kept up to

774
00:54:22,053 --> 00:54:26,621
date. So none of this data that I've shown you

775
00:54:26,621 --> 00:54:30,787
today is mine. Right. It all comes from the wildlife

776
00:54:30,787 --> 00:54:36,387
staff. This is their data that they have requested creating.

777
00:54:36,387 --> 00:54:39,627
They wanted to create this base map so that staff

778
00:54:39,627 --> 00:54:44,534
who were doing work could see if. That they were

779
00:54:44,534 --> 00:54:48,494
close to or potentially planning to do this work during.

780
00:54:48,494 --> 00:54:52,534
And, of course, these raptor nesting areas. They have windows

781
00:54:52,534 --> 00:54:56,652
of time to stay away, and then. They open up

782
00:54:56,652 --> 00:54:59,652
again. Right? Like it's not all year. And so part

783
00:54:59,652 --> 00:55:02,012
of it is. Just to help in scheduling the work.

784
00:55:02,012 --> 00:55:04,492
And if I had zoomed in there, you would have.

785
00:55:04,492 --> 00:55:09,389
Seen labels that would have said. They're not all created

786
00:55:09,389 --> 00:55:12,189
equal, for sure. And some of them have different windows

787
00:55:12,189 --> 00:55:16,398
of time. When they're kind of off limits for different

788
00:55:16,398 --> 00:55:19,278
types of uses, and that is all identified. In the

789
00:55:19,278 --> 00:55:23,279
data and. That is all designed by the wildlife team.

790
00:55:25,405 --> 00:55:28,595
We are just messengers of their information. That's really cool.

791
00:55:29,768 --> 00:55:31,968
That somebody that wants to plan a project can look

792
00:55:31,968 --> 00:55:33,968
in there and zoom in and see the dates and

793
00:55:33,968 --> 00:55:38,252
everything. Yeah. Thank you. Good deal. John's got a question.

794
00:55:39,931 --> 00:55:43,451
Vicky and I both work with City of Lewisville for

795
00:55:43,451 --> 00:55:49,964
raptor monitoring. Is this something? That you're exchanging data with

796
00:55:49,964 --> 00:55:53,484
them, or is it just county? Sorry about rolling the

797
00:55:53,484 --> 00:55:58,844
eyes. I would presume so, but now. I'm not on

798
00:55:58,844 --> 00:56:02,604
the wildlife team. Okay, but I would presume so, yes.

799
00:56:02,604 --> 00:56:05,684
I mean. We work hard across all of Boulder county

800
00:56:05,684 --> 00:56:09,350
parks and open space to work with our partners. Thank

801
00:56:09,350 --> 00:56:16,569
you. Any more questions? No more questions. All right. Do

802
00:56:16,569 --> 00:56:19,529
we have any public comment? Anyone in the room? I

803
00:56:19,529 --> 00:56:24,730
don't see anyone. Do we have anybody online? Nick? I

804
00:56:24,730 --> 00:56:28,050
don't see any hands raised. All right, last chance for

805
00:56:28,050 --> 00:56:32,266
discussion or questions. Posak no. All right. Thank you. Christy.

806
00:56:32,266 --> 00:56:39,433
Great presentation. Great program. All right, next Agenda item 4.3

807
00:56:39,433 --> 00:56:45,486
is the 2026 capital and stewardship project. And we're going

808
00:56:45,486 --> 00:56:49,246
to see Tina Nielsen. Tina's back to give us the

809
00:56:49,246 --> 00:56:52,761
lowdown. On this one. And this is one where we

810
00:56:52,761 --> 00:56:55,481
need to make a recommendation to the Boulder county commissioners.

811
00:56:57,848 --> 00:56:59,248
I have no idea what that.

812
00:57:08,029 --> 00:57:13,231
Exactly. They come, they go. I might need a nick

813
00:57:13,231 --> 00:57:18,246
assist. Unplug that HDMI and plug it in again. Let's

814
00:57:18,246 --> 00:57:25,768
see what happens. A voice behind the curtain. That's right.

815
00:57:25,768 --> 00:57:29,056
Looks like maybe. I saw something different.

816
00:57:35,891 --> 00:57:41,255
Any other tricks, Nick? Yeah. I think you just got

817
00:57:41,255 --> 00:57:50,918
your displays set. To extend rather than mirror. Display settings.

818
00:57:50,918 --> 00:58:00,570
Okay? Very cool creator, though. Okay. How many of the

819
00:58:00,570 --> 00:58:05,420
space staff does it take to make it? Like the

820
00:58:05,420 --> 00:58:08,326
creator. I'll be fine. If I wanted to look at

821
00:58:08,326 --> 00:58:14,187
them. Yeah, I think I'll be fine. Good evening, Tina

822
00:58:14,187 --> 00:58:20,824
Nielsen. And. I am special projects coordinator. I work in

823
00:58:20,824 --> 00:58:25,302
the strategic foundations group. And I'm here tonight to talk

824
00:58:25,302 --> 00:58:29,582
to you about our 2026 capital and stewardship. Projects as

825
00:58:29,582 --> 00:58:33,534
I have been doing for very many years, annually. And

826
00:58:33,534 --> 00:58:36,734
as I always say, this is one of the favorite

827
00:58:36,734 --> 00:58:38,294
things I get to do when I come in front

828
00:58:38,294 --> 00:58:41,966
of you. Because. I get to show you all the

829
00:58:41,966 --> 00:58:44,526
cool things that are happening, many of them behind the

830
00:58:44,526 --> 00:58:51,351
scenes. That aren't necessarily visible. To. Our standard visitor. And

831
00:58:51,351 --> 00:58:54,451
it just makes me feel so proud and happy. That.

832
00:58:55,402 --> 00:58:58,202
I get to help show off what we do. And

833
00:58:58,202 --> 00:59:01,082
I will also add to that a small caveat, and

834
00:59:01,082 --> 00:59:03,807
that is that. I'm like a big picture person. I

835
00:59:03,807 --> 00:59:05,927
know a lot, a little bit about a lot. Of

836
00:59:05,927 --> 00:59:08,367
things, but some of the projects I may not be

837
00:59:08,367 --> 00:59:11,807
able to answer deeper questions about and we do have

838
00:59:11,807 --> 00:59:14,247
other staff in the room. If you have questions I

839
00:59:14,247 --> 00:59:17,667
can't answer, I'll. Lean on those folks. And if there's

840
00:59:17,667 --> 00:59:19,427
a question that none of us can answer, we'll get

841
00:59:19,427 --> 00:59:22,871
back. To you, so just make sure. You don't feel

842
00:59:22,871 --> 00:59:25,431
like you can't ask questions. And this is very informal

843
00:59:25,431 --> 00:59:28,121
even. Though. We're looking for a recommendation tonight, but if

844
00:59:28,121 --> 00:59:31,401
you have questions as I go through, don't. Hesitate to

845
00:59:31,401 --> 00:59:35,057
just pipe up. So I want to start off with

846
00:59:35,057 --> 00:59:38,337
definitions. Just some of you are newer to this, and.

847
00:59:40,367 --> 00:59:42,047
Our processes have evolved quite a bit over the years.

848
00:59:43,913 --> 00:59:47,593
So, Catherine Stewardship. Or we call it cast. We're the

849
00:59:47,593 --> 00:59:52,081
land of acronyms. So what are they? Capital projects are

850
00:59:52,081 --> 00:59:56,281
large, discrete projects. Some examples from what we're looking at

851
00:59:56,281 --> 01:00:03,823
next year are. Accessibility improvements under. The Ada laws. Dam

852
01:00:03,823 --> 01:00:07,703
rehabilitation. New center pivots. They're large, they have discrete. They.

853
01:00:07,703 --> 01:00:13,318
Have a beginning. And stewardship, on the other hand. Are

854
01:00:13,318 --> 01:00:20,351
often maintenance and. Their maintenance that are projects that. They're

855
01:00:20,351 --> 01:00:23,511
big enough that they don't get covered by operational budgets.

856
01:00:25,949 --> 01:00:29,823
So working with the asset management program. We are over

857
01:00:29,823 --> 01:00:33,816
time working to right size. Our operational budget so that.

858
01:00:35,265 --> 01:00:38,465
The regular programmatic kind of maintenance can be covered on

859
01:00:38,465 --> 01:00:41,425
an annual operating budget, but I think there will always

860
01:00:41,425 --> 01:00:43,785
be some things that pop up that are just outside

861
01:00:43,785 --> 01:00:47,309
of those budgets, so. There'll probably always be a need

862
01:00:47,309 --> 01:00:50,991
for something like that in the cast budget. So, examples

863
01:00:50,991 --> 01:00:55,191
that I'll be showing you tonight are trail resurfacing, fence

864
01:00:55,191 --> 01:00:59,791
repair. And then sometimes we have some equipment, like new

865
01:00:59,791 --> 01:01:03,831
trail counters. And then another example of a maintenance project

866
01:01:03,831 --> 01:01:07,769
is a barn reboot, but that's. A big cost item.

867
01:01:09,407 --> 01:01:11,607
Those are the kinds of things that you'll see tonight.

868
01:01:14,604 --> 01:01:18,444
And then just a summary of the projects or the

869
01:01:18,444 --> 01:01:22,954
budget that we are proposing for next year. The county's

870
01:01:22,954 --> 01:01:28,407
share is a little over $9.8 million. We're able to

871
01:01:28,407 --> 01:01:31,367
leverage that with some grants and partnerships to a little

872
01:01:31,367 --> 01:01:34,167
over a million. Dollars, for a total of $11 million

873
01:01:34,167 --> 01:01:38,753
invested in these projects. And you can see. How these

874
01:01:38,753 --> 01:01:41,673
breakdown between the different work groups who are out in

875
01:01:41,673 --> 01:01:46,138
the field doing that work. Another way to look at

876
01:01:46,138 --> 01:01:51,413
them. Is the number of projects in each work group.

877
01:01:51,413 --> 01:01:54,133
So this is shown on this graph, and you can

878
01:01:54,133 --> 01:01:56,893
see that resource management and resource planning each have ten

879
01:01:56,893 --> 01:02:00,655
projects. Eight for recreation of facilities and five in the

880
01:02:00,655 --> 01:02:04,375
agricultural division, and I've also included those. Dollar amounts there

881
01:02:04,375 --> 01:02:09,712
again. So, again, you just heard from Christie about asset

882
01:02:09,712 --> 01:02:14,875
management. I'm so excited. To have. This new tool to

883
01:02:14,875 --> 01:02:19,107
help. Integrate us better. And you were asking questions about

884
01:02:19,107 --> 01:02:22,684
Silos and so on. And I'm so excited because one

885
01:02:22,684 --> 01:02:26,546
of the requirements we have. When we get to approving

886
01:02:26,546 --> 01:02:29,866
these projects is that the staff who are proposing them

887
01:02:29,866 --> 01:02:34,066
are required. To consult other disciplines. So, for example, if

888
01:02:34,066 --> 01:02:37,386
you're planning a trail maintenance project, you have to check

889
01:02:37,386 --> 01:02:39,866
in with wildlife and various others to see if there

890
01:02:39,866 --> 01:02:42,106
are any impacts that you need. To know about and

891
01:02:42,106 --> 01:02:45,226
having this visual in a much more of a powerful

892
01:02:45,226 --> 01:02:47,868
real. Time way. Is really going to just make that

893
01:02:47,868 --> 01:02:52,851
so much more impactful. And those consultations will be much

894
01:02:52,851 --> 01:02:59,076
easier. To have happen. So again, this just shows, kind

895
01:02:59,076 --> 01:03:00,956
of gives you, I don't expect you to read the

896
01:03:00,956 --> 01:03:03,516
labels on the right side of the screen, but I

897
01:03:03,516 --> 01:03:06,737
just wanted to give you that feel for. How these

898
01:03:06,737 --> 01:03:10,617
projects are distributed all over the county in our landscape.

899
01:03:12,340 --> 01:03:15,860
So how do we decide what projects are going to

900
01:03:15,860 --> 01:03:18,900
be on the next year? So we go through a

901
01:03:18,900 --> 01:03:23,734
process. And a lot of factors are considered, including readiness

902
01:03:23,734 --> 01:03:29,119
and funding. And management plan commitments and things like that,

903
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:33,996
but we also filter them through our strategic lenses. You

904
01:03:33,996 --> 01:03:36,116
saw a little bit from Christy about our maintenance backlog.

905
01:03:36,116 --> 01:03:39,396
Strategic lenses. But we've got these four lenses, which are

906
01:03:39,396 --> 01:03:47,184
cultural responsiveness and inclusion. Which. Are very intentional attempt to

907
01:03:47,184 --> 01:03:49,824
make sure that all of our visitors feel welcome and

908
01:03:49,824 --> 01:03:54,531
included. The resilience lens is really about sustainability. A lot

909
01:03:54,531 --> 01:03:57,331
of it has having to do with preparing for climate

910
01:03:57,331 --> 01:04:01,211
change and things related to that maintenance backlog is a

911
01:04:01,211 --> 01:04:07,111
big one because just. In the organizational evolution of our

912
01:04:07,111 --> 01:04:10,201
program. Early years, we bought bot bot, and then we

913
01:04:10,201 --> 01:04:12,241
built, built, built, and now we have a lot. Of

914
01:04:12,241 --> 01:04:15,049
stuff to take care of and. We're an asset management

915
01:04:15,049 --> 01:04:17,489
is helping us kind of figure out how to do

916
01:04:17,489 --> 01:04:20,830
that in a very cost effective way. And then last

917
01:04:20,830 --> 01:04:23,470
but not least at all, is safety. We want to

918
01:04:23,470 --> 01:04:25,830
make sure that our staff our visitors, our volunteers, and

919
01:04:25,830 --> 01:04:30,550
everyone is safe. And again, as we've evolved, we realize

920
01:04:30,550 --> 01:04:35,054
we have to be very intentional about that, so. That's

921
01:04:35,054 --> 01:04:37,534
always a filter. And you may notice that these are

922
01:04:37,534 --> 01:04:44,345
called 2025 strategic focus. Areas. This graphic was developed at

923
01:04:44,345 --> 01:04:46,625
an all staff meeting we had back in April of

924
01:04:46,625 --> 01:04:53,185
2021. The next five year period will be 2026, starting

925
01:04:53,185 --> 01:04:55,705
in 2026. So we will be updating this next year.

926
01:04:57,339 --> 01:04:59,539
These are very solid, but things may get tweaked a

927
01:04:59,539 --> 01:05:02,524
little bit. But because this is what we have now,

928
01:05:02,524 --> 01:05:05,324
this is what we use to plan our next year's.

929
01:05:05,324 --> 01:05:08,600
Projects. And here again, I just wanted to show you.

930
01:05:11,164 --> 01:05:13,124
Obviously, these numbers add up to more than the 33

931
01:05:13,124 --> 01:05:15,044
projects that are on the list because there's a lot

932
01:05:15,044 --> 01:05:18,284
of overlap. One project may tick more than one box,

933
01:05:18,284 --> 01:05:20,684
and as you can see, there's a huge overlap between

934
01:05:20,684 --> 01:05:24,931
maintenance backlog and safety, I think. That's pretty intuitive. Why?

935
01:05:24,931 --> 01:05:29,091
That might be. Resilience also has a pretty big overlap.

936
01:05:29,091 --> 01:05:32,851
With maintenance, backlog and safety. This year, we have eight

937
01:05:32,851 --> 01:05:36,011
projects that tick the inclusion box, which is a big

938
01:05:36,011 --> 01:05:38,331
jump over last year. There were two. A lot of

939
01:05:38,331 --> 01:05:42,520
our. Cultural relevance and inclusion projects show up on the

940
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,680
programmatic side of the things that we do. Like the

941
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,440
hikes that we lead, the events that we host and

942
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,220
things like that, they're. Now starting to show up. More

943
01:05:52,220 --> 01:05:54,260
in our capital project, so I'm going to talk a

944
01:05:54,260 --> 01:05:56,540
little bit about that more. As we get into it.

945
01:05:58,332 --> 01:06:01,675
So. I'm not going to talk about every single project.

946
01:06:03,243 --> 01:06:06,156
You've got the details in your packet. I'm just going

947
01:06:06,156 --> 01:06:09,116
to kind of do some high level overview and highlights,

948
01:06:09,116 --> 01:06:10,316
and then I'm going to talk a little bit more

949
01:06:10,316 --> 01:06:16,028
about those. Cultural relevance and inclusive projects, so. In agriculture

950
01:06:16,028 --> 01:06:21,348
and water division. Most of those projects address maintenance, backlog

951
01:06:21,348 --> 01:06:25,247
and resilience. So a lot of water projects. We're always

952
01:06:25,247 --> 01:06:28,687
trying to manage our water in a more sustainable way,

953
01:06:28,687 --> 01:06:32,543
a more efficient way. And so the new center pivots

954
01:06:32,543 --> 01:06:38,373
the dam rehabilitation. And the well development, which is also

955
01:06:38,373 --> 01:06:43,945
crossing over into wildlife management. But really, do. That continuing

956
01:06:43,945 --> 01:06:47,745
on fence repairs. We started doing a multimillion dollar fence

957
01:06:47,745 --> 01:06:52,185
repair project last year. And that's continuing this year, and

958
01:06:52,185 --> 01:06:57,983
that's really. About. Management of cattle and grazing and so

959
01:06:57,983 --> 01:07:01,383
on to make sure that the animals are where they're

960
01:07:01,383 --> 01:07:02,943
supposed to be and not where they're not supposed to

961
01:07:02,943 --> 01:07:06,490
be. And then you can see in that upper right

962
01:07:06,490 --> 01:07:09,850
hand photo, the Cushman property. And also the one below

963
01:07:09,850 --> 01:07:15,040
it. We have challenges on some properties with things like

964
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:19,384
prairie dogs. Or properties that haven't been well maintained over

965
01:07:19,384 --> 01:07:22,384
time. So the Cushman is one. That is taking a

966
01:07:22,384 --> 01:07:24,464
rest this year and we're doing the work so that

967
01:07:24,464 --> 01:07:27,064
when we lease it out again, it'll be fully productive.

968
01:07:29,379 --> 01:07:35,818
737. Then resource management division. Again, very heavily focused on

969
01:07:35,818 --> 01:07:40,258
resilience and maintenance backlog. So we have a couple of

970
01:07:40,258 --> 01:07:45,898
different wildlife fencing projects. One on the Mayhoffer property out

971
01:07:45,898 --> 01:07:49,738
East Lufthal Lafayette area. And that is to fence animals

972
01:07:49,738 --> 01:07:51,698
out of the riparian corridors. You can see in that

973
01:07:51,698 --> 01:07:54,771
upper right. Photo there and then one up at. Caribou

974
01:07:54,771 --> 01:07:58,968
ranch, which is to protect. Riparian area and what area

975
01:07:58,968 --> 01:08:03,288
from the moose, which population is really expanding up there

976
01:08:03,288 --> 01:08:07,140
and. They're big animals and they can really trample the

977
01:08:07,140 --> 01:08:11,161
area. We're continuing to do russian olive removal along Boulder

978
01:08:11,161 --> 01:08:13,841
Creek, and that's on the wheeler property on the eastern

979
01:08:13,841 --> 01:08:17,602
end of the county. And then, as you can see

980
01:08:17,602 --> 01:08:21,522
in the lower photo there of elk crossing us 36

981
01:08:21,522 --> 01:08:25,101
between bowler and lions. I think you've heard about this,

982
01:08:25,101 --> 01:08:29,262
but. We are continuing to plan for and hopefully implement

983
01:08:29,262 --> 01:08:32,902
a wildlife crossing on us. 36 at some point doing

984
01:08:32,902 --> 01:08:36,862
that closely in conjunction with CPW CDOT and the bikeway

985
01:08:36,862 --> 01:08:39,422
planning process. That's going on there. And then we have

986
01:08:39,422 --> 01:08:45,458
a couple of forestry projects for fuel reduction. And this

987
01:08:45,458 --> 01:08:49,654
is every year the forestry folks. Are out there planning

988
01:08:49,654 --> 01:08:53,658
and getting grant money. And the forest projects are almost

989
01:08:53,658 --> 01:08:59,613
always supported by grant money. They're almost always. Regional collaborations,

990
01:08:59,613 --> 01:09:02,293
and the idea is that with all the fire suppression

991
01:09:02,293 --> 01:09:07,866
that's happened since white settlement. We have. Very fire prone

992
01:09:07,866 --> 01:09:09,546
areas, and we're trying to get a handle on that.

993
01:09:11,446 --> 01:09:18,376
Recreation of facilities. Very intuitive here. They're focused a lot

994
01:09:18,376 --> 01:09:24,250
on maintenance, backlog and safety. And so there are trailhead

995
01:09:24,250 --> 01:09:27,530
upgrades this year happening at Rabbit Mountain runs through a

996
01:09:27,530 --> 01:09:32,458
preserve of rabbit mountain. We have some accessibility improvements also

997
01:09:32,458 --> 01:09:35,018
happening at the Rabbit Mountain trailhead, as well as at

998
01:09:35,018 --> 01:09:37,338
the good hue house which is at the Carolyn Homeburg

999
01:09:37,338 --> 01:09:41,618
preserve near Broomfield in the southeast corner. Of the county.

1000
01:09:43,305 --> 01:09:46,345
The Macintosh barn, which is at the Agricultural Heritage center,

1001
01:09:46,345 --> 01:09:51,311
will be rerouted this year. We've got some smaller projects,

1002
01:09:51,311 --> 01:09:55,608
including. Upgrading the fencing at the Kerr Community garden. That's

1003
01:09:55,608 --> 01:09:58,608
at the Harney Listoka property. Which is jointly owned with

1004
01:09:58,608 --> 01:10:04,392
Louisville and Lafayette right at that area. Where South Boulder

1005
01:10:04,392 --> 01:10:09,352
Road intersects with 95th street, and there's the community ballpark

1006
01:10:09,352 --> 01:10:10,992
there. And there's a whole bunch of stuff going on.

1007
01:10:10,992 --> 01:10:14,112
One of the things that's cool is there's community garden

1008
01:10:14,112 --> 01:10:19,120
right there. We're doing a whole series of restroom updates,

1009
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,880
and I know that Emily was here, not. Long ago.

1010
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:27,590
Giving you a big update on that. Servicing the flooring

1011
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:31,390
and the insides. And all this toward the goal of

1012
01:10:31,390 --> 01:10:37,860
making the maintenance more sustainable. And long lasting. There's some

1013
01:10:37,860 --> 01:10:41,420
bridge rejecting on the Nywat trails and then we do

1014
01:10:41,420 --> 01:10:45,220
have one playground, in case you didn't know, in Nywat

1015
01:10:45,220 --> 01:10:49,979
at the left hand valley. Grange. And this year they're

1016
01:10:49,979 --> 01:10:52,379
doing a resurfacing project out there, and next year, they're

1017
01:10:52,379 --> 01:10:56,817
going to put a new playground equipment. And then the

1018
01:10:56,817 --> 01:10:59,937
last thing is handheld lidar, which is a piece of

1019
01:10:59,937 --> 01:11:03,377
equipment used to take some of those pictures, like what

1020
01:11:03,377 --> 01:11:09,859
Christie showed you. Then. The fourth and last division that

1021
01:11:09,859 --> 01:11:14,493
does field work is resource planning. And many of those

1022
01:11:14,493 --> 01:11:20,236
projects are really focused on resilience. So planning. For disasters,

1023
01:11:20,236 --> 01:11:23,716
or recovering from disasters, or thinking about how do we

1024
01:11:23,716 --> 01:11:26,636
become more resilient to climate change and those kinds of

1025
01:11:26,636 --> 01:11:32,013
things. So I know you've had a field trip to

1026
01:11:32,013 --> 01:11:34,253
the hall to property to see the south St. Brien

1027
01:11:34,253 --> 01:11:37,373
Creek restoration project. That's the photo that you see there

1028
01:11:37,373 --> 01:11:40,373
and that's. An ongoing project, so there's more happening this

1029
01:11:40,373 --> 01:11:48,225
year. Another ongoing project. Is adaptive management. For St. Brain

1030
01:11:48,225 --> 01:11:52,545
stream restoration and fish Passage project. So there were two

1031
01:11:52,545 --> 01:11:54,745
projects that were done, several years ago, but there's a

1032
01:11:54,745 --> 01:12:00,440
lot of ongoing monitoring. And responding to any water events

1033
01:12:00,440 --> 01:12:02,840
that may happen so that we don't let things get

1034
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,800
out of hand again. So we have a budget set

1035
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:10,595
aside for that. Then the Howl Ditch diversion, which is

1036
01:12:10,595 --> 01:12:13,875
along Boulder Creek, and we're doing that in partnership. With

1037
01:12:13,875 --> 01:12:20,900
the city of Boulder utilities division. Is also. For Creek

1038
01:12:20,900 --> 01:12:24,500
health. There's also a fish passage element to that project.

1039
01:12:26,003 --> 01:12:28,843
And the city. Boulder is a funding partner as well,

1040
01:12:28,843 --> 01:12:34,363
in that the Prince Lake number one, Dan rehabilitation is.

1041
01:12:36,072 --> 01:12:38,192
A dam that is on a lake just upstream from

1042
01:12:38,192 --> 01:12:41,952
Erie, and this is another ongoing project, so. You're hearing

1043
01:12:41,952 --> 01:12:44,912
a familiar thing here. These are big, kind of multi

1044
01:12:44,912 --> 01:12:48,992
agency, multi year, complicated. Projects that involve engineering, a lot

1045
01:12:48,992 --> 01:12:56,008
of permitting, so they take time. The state engineer. Decided,

1046
01:12:56,008 --> 01:12:59,168
well, the safety standards change. And as a result of

1047
01:12:59,168 --> 01:13:04,705
that change, This dam is no longer. Meeting those requirements,

1048
01:13:04,705 --> 01:13:07,345
and it's a safety thing in case there's a big

1049
01:13:07,345 --> 01:13:10,625
water event, and the city of Erie is now downstream.

1050
01:13:10,625 --> 01:13:14,443
We wouldn't want. Some flooding event to affect those homeowners.

1051
01:13:16,757 --> 01:13:19,397
So that is in progress. And then, of course, Prairie

1052
01:13:19,397 --> 01:13:24,296
run at East Boulder Creek. Is in year three next

1053
01:13:24,296 --> 01:13:27,696
year with phase two design and permitting, and so that

1054
01:13:27,696 --> 01:13:30,296
is just ongoing. And it takes a chunk of money.

1055
01:13:31,744 --> 01:13:35,979
And it's again another big, complicated, multi year project. I

1056
01:13:35,979 --> 01:13:40,019
wanted to highlight this one project because this is by

1057
01:13:40,019 --> 01:13:42,939
far the most expensive project on the whole list and

1058
01:13:42,939 --> 01:13:49,508
figured you might have questions about it. I'm guessing you've

1059
01:13:49,508 --> 01:13:52,308
had the opportunity to have a field trip up there

1060
01:13:52,308 --> 01:13:54,348
and. You've heard a lot about it, but for those

1061
01:13:54,348 --> 01:13:58,240
of you who weren't around, for that. The cardinal mill

1062
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,120
is a property that. Well, it was a mill that

1063
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:08,047
was begun in the early 19 hundreds. Process mining from

1064
01:14:08,047 --> 01:14:15,829
a nearby mine until the early 40s. And then it

1065
01:14:15,829 --> 01:14:20,189
sat on vacant and unused, and has been unused since

1066
01:14:20,189 --> 01:14:26,401
that time. A neighbor purchased it. I believe in the

1067
01:14:26,401 --> 01:14:29,152
held it for a while. She did not have the

1068
01:14:29,152 --> 01:14:33,592
resources to do any rehabilitation, and ultimately we bought it

1069
01:14:33,592 --> 01:14:37,860
from her in 2003. We put over a million dollars

1070
01:14:37,860 --> 01:14:41,948
into the rehabilitation of this, including. Those various retaining rules

1071
01:14:41,948 --> 01:14:45,068
that you said everything was sliding down the hill. We've

1072
01:14:45,068 --> 01:14:48,508
had a water discharge permit there over the years, but

1073
01:14:48,508 --> 01:14:53,649
here again. The standards have changed. They've become stricter, and

1074
01:14:53,649 --> 01:14:58,859
we're now out of compliance. With the discharge permit. So

1075
01:14:58,859 --> 01:15:02,739
it's a quite complicated situation up there. I don't pretend

1076
01:15:02,739 --> 01:15:05,739
to understand it. All. I'm not working on this project.

1077
01:15:05,739 --> 01:15:08,379
But I do know that we are working with a

1078
01:15:08,379 --> 01:15:13,118
consultant to figure out the solution, and so. That's the

1079
01:15:13,118 --> 01:15:14,998
$4 million price tag for this year, and it will

1080
01:15:14,998 --> 01:15:20,732
be ongoing. That is our biggest capital project so far.

1081
01:15:20,732 --> 01:15:23,612
I do want to mention that when we did all

1082
01:15:23,612 --> 01:15:25,972
the rehabilitation work that we spent over a million dollars

1083
01:15:25,972 --> 01:15:28,452
on. More than half of that money came from the

1084
01:15:28,452 --> 01:15:33,709
state Historic Preservation fund. So we worked really hard on

1085
01:15:33,709 --> 01:15:37,840
that, and. It's on the. Mine tour. Haven't been up

1086
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,000
there. It's a really cool facility to see and. A

1087
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,853
great example. Of a kind of mine that used to

1088
01:15:43,853 --> 01:15:48,213
be common. In the western part of the county that

1089
01:15:48,213 --> 01:15:51,849
we still have. I want to step back and talk

1090
01:15:51,849 --> 01:15:58,616
a little bit more about those cultural resource. Resources projects

1091
01:15:58,616 --> 01:16:04,258
that we have eight of. In this upcoming. Budget. And

1092
01:16:04,258 --> 01:16:08,769
just to remind everybody, What is this cultural responsiveness and

1093
01:16:08,769 --> 01:16:13,562
inclusion lens? The goal being that we co create welcoming,

1094
01:16:13,562 --> 01:16:18,242
inclusive and responsive opportunities for marginalized and undisturbed populations especially.

1095
01:16:18,242 --> 01:16:23,248
But for everybody. Honestly, it's everybody. But the moment that

1096
01:16:23,248 --> 01:16:27,848
we are in today, With opportunity to reflect back on

1097
01:16:27,848 --> 01:16:34,088
the history. Of white settlement and of land being stolen

1098
01:16:34,088 --> 01:16:38,273
and all those things, and addressing the fact that. Our

1099
01:16:38,273 --> 01:16:42,192
visitors don't reflect the demographic. Of our population, especially the

1100
01:16:42,192 --> 01:16:47,596
hispanic latino population, so. It's been a very intentional effort

1101
01:16:47,596 --> 01:16:51,872
on our part to start to. Build those relationships. And

1102
01:16:51,872 --> 01:16:54,771
now, as I said earlier, Show up in our capital

1103
01:16:54,771 --> 01:16:59,165
budget. See some of the strategies have been called out

1104
01:16:59,165 --> 01:17:02,479
there. And so I want to just highlight a few

1105
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,879
of those things before I do. I'll show you how,

1106
01:17:05,879 --> 01:17:10,159
again, how these projects are distributed across the landscape. These

1107
01:17:10,159 --> 01:17:14,559
are just those projects that tick that box of cultural

1108
01:17:14,559 --> 01:17:19,135
responsiveness and inclusion. So one of them that is super

1109
01:17:19,135 --> 01:17:23,335
exciting is the Resilient Roots project, and this is a

1110
01:17:23,335 --> 01:17:28,415
project that our new cultural history specialist, Elisa Bethrios Brooks,

1111
01:17:28,415 --> 01:17:33,844
is leading, and it's really started. Actually in a collaborative

1112
01:17:33,844 --> 01:17:39,246
project with community planning and permitting department where they're. Doing?

1113
01:17:40,180 --> 01:17:43,021
A survey. Of what is out there on the landscape

1114
01:17:43,021 --> 01:17:47,981
that relates to latino populations and indigenous populations, and then

1115
01:17:47,981 --> 01:17:53,666
she's going to take a next step next year. In

1116
01:17:53,666 --> 01:17:58,870
a process that will facilitate a community led. Conversation and

1117
01:17:58,870 --> 01:18:06,286
research develop. Histories and ultimately. Recommendations that will guide. Future

1118
01:18:06,286 --> 01:18:09,726
acquisitions and stewardship and interpretation of these sites. So the

1119
01:18:09,726 --> 01:18:14,801
photo that you see here on the bottom. Is barracks

1120
01:18:14,801 --> 01:18:23,979
property. A little bit on the southeast lim. And the

1121
01:18:23,979 --> 01:18:26,979
photo above that is a newspaper clipping from the 80s.

1122
01:18:28,813 --> 01:18:31,173
When some work was done to document some of the

1123
01:18:31,173 --> 01:18:34,462
migrant labors and some of the issues. And things that

1124
01:18:34,462 --> 01:18:37,302
they were going through at the time. So Lisa Beth

1125
01:18:37,302 --> 01:18:40,703
is really digging into this. And it's going to be

1126
01:18:40,703 --> 01:18:45,590
fun to see where it goes. And then I did

1127
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:51,002
mention this already, but just highlight again. The EDA, the

1128
01:18:51,002 --> 01:18:59,079
federal law for accessibility. We had an audit done. And

1129
01:18:59,079 --> 01:19:00,519
so we're in year three of a four year process.

1130
01:19:02,038 --> 01:19:05,238
To do updates every year to address all the various

1131
01:19:05,238 --> 01:19:09,638
things from very minor to bigger things on our property.

1132
01:19:09,638 --> 01:19:12,798
So at the good few house and at Rabbit Mountain,

1133
01:19:12,798 --> 01:19:17,358
we're doing a better job of connecting our Ada parking

1134
01:19:17,358 --> 01:19:24,285
spots to restrooms. There's no elevation changes, there's no sharp

1135
01:19:24,285 --> 01:19:29,770
drop offs, so people can navigate more. Safely between. Our

1136
01:19:29,770 --> 01:19:33,347
facilities. And then there will be some other minor updates

1137
01:19:33,347 --> 01:19:36,867
to the restrooms and trailheads at the roadstroke consumer rabbit

1138
01:19:36,867 --> 01:19:41,812
bone. This photo just is an example of some of

1139
01:19:41,812 --> 01:19:44,812
the work that has been done in the first couple

1140
01:19:44,812 --> 01:19:50,096
of years. And then another one that's ongoing is sign

1141
01:19:50,096 --> 01:19:55,320
standards implementation. Those of you who have been around for

1142
01:19:55,320 --> 01:20:00,346
a while, you may remember. We had. A consultant hired

1143
01:20:00,346 --> 01:20:05,202
to help us rethink our whole sign plan. And they

1144
01:20:05,202 --> 01:20:08,882
came up with a manual. We shared that manual freely

1145
01:20:08,882 --> 01:20:12,954
with any other agency who. Wants to take advantage of

1146
01:20:12,954 --> 01:20:18,838
it. And we are implementing. About 500 new signs a

1147
01:20:18,838 --> 01:20:24,882
year. These are void finding regulatory warning and accolades. And

1148
01:20:24,882 --> 01:20:28,899
most of them are bilingual. And they use universal. Technology

1149
01:20:28,899 --> 01:20:32,902
so that it's very easy to understand. And you see

1150
01:20:32,902 --> 01:20:36,022
that list of properties that are on the up for

1151
01:20:36,022 --> 01:20:43,709
next year. Another really fun project. Is demonstration garden at

1152
01:20:43,709 --> 01:20:49,743
Walden Ponds. And photo is actually one that was just

1153
01:20:49,743 --> 01:20:54,382
installed last weekend. At the CSU extension office. They have

1154
01:20:54,382 --> 01:20:58,472
a demonstration garden out there at the fairground, and. This

1155
01:20:58,472 --> 01:21:00,386
is. An accessible raised bed so that somebody who's in

1156
01:21:00,386 --> 01:21:03,906
a wheelchair can navigate and do some planting and weeding

1157
01:21:03,906 --> 01:21:06,946
and maintenance and so on. So we're doing something similar

1158
01:21:06,946 --> 01:21:11,066
at Walden. I'm not sure how many of these, or

1159
01:21:11,066 --> 01:21:13,426
even if any of them will be accessible. They're still

1160
01:21:13,426 --> 01:21:15,986
working on figuring that out, but they're hoping that they

1161
01:21:15,986 --> 01:21:18,306
can find an Eagle scout will be willing to do

1162
01:21:18,306 --> 01:21:24,284
that. And that's what happened at CSU extension. I got

1163
01:21:24,284 --> 01:21:27,724
these photos just today from our dear friend Poria, who's

1164
01:21:27,724 --> 01:21:30,004
in the audience. Tonight, and he wanted me to mention

1165
01:21:30,004 --> 01:21:35,673
that he's developing. A video about this particular project, so

1166
01:21:35,673 --> 01:21:37,633
keep your eyes open for that. It'll be a fun

1167
01:21:37,633 --> 01:21:42,070
little story and. This will be right next to the

1168
01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:45,790
volunteer Naturals building out of Walt Punk, and it will

1169
01:21:45,790 --> 01:21:48,510
include a little trail that winds through it and some

1170
01:21:48,510 --> 01:21:53,180
interpretive signing. Bilingual. So inclusive in that way, and maybe

1171
01:21:53,180 --> 01:21:59,018
even inclusive on the accessibility metric as well. Okay, so

1172
01:21:59,018 --> 01:22:06,599
the same brain greenway planning. This is a kickstart, a

1173
01:22:06,599 --> 01:22:10,814
restart of a project. That was started many years ago

1174
01:22:10,814 --> 01:22:13,654
and then went on the back burner because the properties

1175
01:22:13,654 --> 01:22:20,507
weren't all acquired yet. It's St. Brand Greenway between. And

1176
01:22:20,507 --> 01:22:27,362
the intention is to restart. This with a very. Intentional

1177
01:22:27,362 --> 01:22:33,563
engagement effort. So we'll be bringing. In partners ideas and

1178
01:22:33,563 --> 01:22:37,163
perspectives that are maybe outside of the box. That is

1179
01:22:37,163 --> 01:22:43,431
a difficult planner's. Box. Which means going to communities. And

1180
01:22:43,431 --> 01:22:47,155
starting to create a field of ownership. And then helping

1181
01:22:47,155 --> 01:22:50,155
them feel like they really belong here and understanding what

1182
01:22:50,155 --> 01:22:53,635
they're looking for. Out of trail experience that would be

1183
01:22:53,635 --> 01:22:57,155
in that area. So this is just getting started next

1184
01:22:57,155 --> 01:23:00,035
year. And the funding is set aside for help with

1185
01:23:00,035 --> 01:23:09,746
facilitation. The care and link outlets. So Karen Lake

1186
01:23:09,746 --> 01:23:14,545
is at Pella Crossing. I'm in the hygiene area. And

1187
01:23:14,545 --> 01:23:17,905
there is an inclusive element to this project as well.

1188
01:23:17,905 --> 01:23:21,880
There's a clog outlet. And so. It's really mainly a

1189
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:26,320
maintenance backlog issue. However, there are people who use what

1190
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:31,080
we call OPDMD, which is other power driven mobility devices.

1191
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,920
I learned that when I worked on the bike policy.

1192
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,668
I learned to say it really quick. With that kind

1193
01:23:37,668 --> 01:23:45,290
of. Hack that our staff came up with. It's a

1194
01:23:45,290 --> 01:23:50,202
bunch of stones crossing. It's not very friendly. For users

1195
01:23:50,202 --> 01:23:54,653
of. Open. So the intention is to go in there

1196
01:23:54,653 --> 01:24:00,911
and do a right fix. Fixed debris problem. Lots of

1197
01:24:00,911 --> 01:24:05,759
fixed trail fluids, again accessible to all users. So that

1198
01:24:05,759 --> 01:24:11,783
brings me to the end of my presentation. Again. This

1199
01:24:11,783 --> 01:24:16,023
depiction of how these projects play on the landscape. As

1200
01:24:16,023 --> 01:24:19,343
you know, we are looking for a recommendation to the

1201
01:24:19,343 --> 01:24:25,384
county commissioners. Request later this year, I'd be happy to

1202
01:24:25,384 --> 01:24:30,991
transfer questions. All right. Thanks, Tina. Great presentation. You covered

1203
01:24:30,991 --> 01:24:37,181
a lot of ground. Very concisely, too. All right, Posac,

1204
01:24:37,181 --> 01:24:42,178
we got some questions. Jones. Joan, let's pose. AK and

1205
01:24:42,178 --> 01:24:46,368
I have a few questions. One was what your thoughts

1206
01:24:46,368 --> 01:24:50,248
are about funding from the federal government and FEMA that

1207
01:24:50,248 --> 01:24:54,728
may be contributing, given the uncertainty of some of that

1208
01:24:54,728 --> 01:24:58,408
funding. Yeah, thank you for asking. That's a really great

1209
01:24:58,408 --> 01:25:05,114
question. We do have some fema funding. Let me just

1210
01:25:05,114 --> 01:25:09,510
step back for a minute. We have an application in

1211
01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:12,070
for one of our projects. It hasn't been awarded yet.

1212
01:25:13,531 --> 01:25:16,572
So. This is one of those things. I'm not directly

1213
01:25:16,572 --> 01:25:19,172
involved in that project, so I'm not sure how well

1214
01:25:19,172 --> 01:25:21,172
I can answer it, but I know we're all aware.

1215
01:25:22,985 --> 01:25:26,486
Of. Yeah, please come up. We're all aware of. The

1216
01:25:26,486 --> 01:25:29,966
situation at the federal government? Yes, thank you. Good question.

1217
01:25:29,966 --> 01:25:35,535
Heidi Wagner, strategic foundation's deputy director. And yes, one of

1218
01:25:35,535 --> 01:25:39,175
our projects, the Prince Lake Dam project, is FEMA funded.

1219
01:25:40,938 --> 01:25:46,000
And. We were concerned about that funding being withdrawn, but

1220
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:51,829
after lots of emails and conversations with the state, We

1221
01:25:51,829 --> 01:25:56,934
believe we will still be reimbursed as promised. We did

1222
01:25:56,934 --> 01:26:00,534
have a very thoughtful conversation and decided to go ahead

1223
01:26:00,534 --> 01:26:06,143
and proceed. That project. Has actually already been awarded and

1224
01:26:06,143 --> 01:26:09,423
is going to kick off in August. So the funding

1225
01:26:09,423 --> 01:26:13,063
that you're seeing for 26 is just to finish the

1226
01:26:13,063 --> 01:26:17,121
project. So once. We're done with the project, we will

1227
01:26:17,121 --> 01:26:21,841
file for that reimbursement. It actually. Comes from the state,

1228
01:26:21,841 --> 01:26:25,681
who then gets it from FEMA. So the hope is

1229
01:26:25,681 --> 01:26:29,801
that process will still continue, but if not, we understand

1230
01:26:29,801 --> 01:26:33,968
that. We might be holding the bill. Does that help?

1231
01:26:36,637 --> 01:26:41,490
Yes. It was Joan. Sorry, Joan. You'd ask the question?

1232
01:26:41,490 --> 01:26:46,044
Yes, that's very helpful. And then I was also going

1233
01:26:46,044 --> 01:26:49,604
to just have a comment on the Walden demonstration garden,

1234
01:26:49,604 --> 01:26:54,229
which I've already passed on to Amanda Hanfield. In that.

1235
01:26:55,759 --> 01:26:59,239
With native Zurich and firewise plants. I think they should

1236
01:26:59,239 --> 01:27:03,399
all be native. I was a registered landscape architect, and

1237
01:27:03,399 --> 01:27:06,439
I can tell you, just in my lifetime, plants from

1238
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,319
other countries or areas that we thought would be compatible.

1239
01:27:10,684 --> 01:27:14,364
Nature finds a way to reproduce, and so I just

1240
01:27:14,364 --> 01:27:18,764
think there's lots of native zoo. Plants. There's lots of

1241
01:27:18,764 --> 01:27:26,050
native firewise plants too. And then the only other question

1242
01:27:26,050 --> 01:27:31,248
was if you could explain more about. The amount required

1243
01:27:31,248 --> 01:27:36,168
for the wildlife crossing planning, it seems like the 600,000.

1244
01:27:37,775 --> 01:27:41,295
Is just for planning. It just seems like a large

1245
01:27:41,295 --> 01:27:45,814
figure, and maybe you could explain that more. Yeah. Again,

1246
01:27:45,814 --> 01:27:46,934
this is going to be one where I'm going to

1247
01:27:46,934 --> 01:27:53,249
have to defer. Heidi Wagner. So it's large because. It's

1248
01:27:53,249 --> 01:27:57,369
planning, but it's also conceptual design work. So right now

1249
01:27:57,369 --> 01:28:01,608
there is a bikeway being planned along 36. In the

1250
01:28:01,608 --> 01:28:04,888
same corridor that we're looking for the wildlife crossing to

1251
01:28:04,888 --> 01:28:10,875
be placed so between boulder. And lions. And that effort

1252
01:28:10,875 --> 01:28:14,075
is well underway. And so in order for us to

1253
01:28:14,075 --> 01:28:17,606
integrate with that effort in a timely manner. We need

1254
01:28:17,606 --> 01:28:20,672
to get on board. With a conceptual design for the

1255
01:28:20,672 --> 01:28:25,392
wildlife crossing, and so that funding is not just to

1256
01:28:25,392 --> 01:28:28,512
plan and talk about it, but it's also actually for

1257
01:28:28,512 --> 01:28:32,392
the design consultant and all the associated work. And potentially

1258
01:28:32,392 --> 01:28:37,272
start on, hopefully, on what we'll need for our permits.

1259
01:28:37,272 --> 01:28:42,607
Thank you. Vicky. Vicky Lawrence Posek. First of all, I

1260
01:28:42,607 --> 01:28:44,407
had two questions, but now I want to follow. Up

1261
01:28:44,407 --> 01:28:50,356
on what you just were telling us, Heidi. So, just

1262
01:28:50,356 --> 01:28:55,797
out of curiosity, this is an overpath for wildlife. That's

1263
01:28:55,797 --> 01:29:01,057
correct. Okay. And would that be an overpass over the

1264
01:29:01,057 --> 01:29:05,334
bike path as well? That's what we're trying to consider

1265
01:29:05,334 --> 01:29:08,934
design. And I have to caveat my previous answer. Yes.

1266
01:29:08,934 --> 01:29:12,014
We are hoping it will be an overpass. That is

1267
01:29:12,014 --> 01:29:14,894
our preferred design, but we might need to go with

1268
01:29:14,894 --> 01:29:19,500
an underpass, just depending on how all the design. Work

1269
01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:22,540
shakes out. Thank you. So I have two other comments

1270
01:29:22,540 --> 01:29:26,395
from earlier on. As far as the cardinal mill and

1271
01:29:26,395 --> 01:29:32,129
the water discharge, that is not meeting standards there. I

1272
01:29:32,129 --> 01:29:36,889
assume, but I'm just asking that the county has sought

1273
01:29:36,889 --> 01:29:40,329
out other funds from. I don't know EPA or boulder

1274
01:29:40,329 --> 01:29:46,263
water is impacted by that at Barca Reservoir. Are there

1275
01:29:46,263 --> 01:29:49,103
other sources of funding that are looking, that you're looking

1276
01:29:49,103 --> 01:29:52,383
at for helping with that payment? Yes. Thanks for that

1277
01:29:52,383 --> 01:29:57,085
question. Funding is tight right now. The federal government is

1278
01:29:57,085 --> 01:29:59,125
usually who we would go to for something of this

1279
01:29:59,125 --> 01:30:05,623
magnitude. We are applying for a brown filled grant. That

1280
01:30:05,623 --> 01:30:08,983
is really the only thing, as of now that we

1281
01:30:08,983 --> 01:30:13,027
have identified. As potentially being a funding source for us

1282
01:30:13,027 --> 01:30:16,387
as a support source. We are continuing our conversations with

1283
01:30:16,387 --> 01:30:19,027
the state, and we're also hoping that they might give

1284
01:30:19,027 --> 01:30:22,427
us additional guidance or heads up. On any funding they

1285
01:30:22,427 --> 01:30:24,987
might be providing. But if you know the state picture

1286
01:30:24,987 --> 01:30:29,400
as well, It is pretty dry there, but we're hopeful

1287
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:34,200
for brownfield. So are we under some kind of restriction

1288
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,560
or alert or red flagging or something from the EPA

1289
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,560
or something about this. Or are we just being sort

1290
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,960
of proactive in saying we know that this isn't. Great.

1291
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:43,360
So let's try and clean it up now. Or is

1292
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:47,252
it something that should be. Put off when perhaps. Federal

1293
01:30:47,252 --> 01:30:49,732
funding might be available again. Yes. So it's not the

1294
01:30:49,732 --> 01:30:54,985
EPA. It's actually the state of Colorado. Who updated their

1295
01:30:54,985 --> 01:30:59,320
standards. And when they did the update, we were out

1296
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:03,904
of compliance, and so. They gave us a deadline to

1297
01:31:03,904 --> 01:31:09,522
become compliant. Which, after some preliminary work and analysis on

1298
01:31:09,522 --> 01:31:12,522
our part, we realized we were not going to make.

1299
01:31:12,522 --> 01:31:15,959
That deadline due to the complexity of the site. And

1300
01:31:15,959 --> 01:31:19,559
the conditions and all of the infrastructure work required to

1301
01:31:19,559 --> 01:31:23,079
become compliant and ask them for an extension which they

1302
01:31:23,079 --> 01:31:27,401
granted, which is right now, march of 27. Okay. Thank

1303
01:31:27,401 --> 01:31:30,201
you. And I have one further sort of more of

1304
01:31:30,201 --> 01:31:33,441
a comment. I'm out. Of Carolyn Holmberg all the time

1305
01:31:33,441 --> 01:31:36,521
on a regular basis. And I bike out there and

1306
01:31:36,521 --> 01:31:38,761
I had to laugh when you showed that picture of

1307
01:31:38,761 --> 01:31:42,921
the infrastructure improvement there, which was really awesome for handicapped

1308
01:31:42,921 --> 01:31:45,361
people. There's a lot great about it. And they put

1309
01:31:45,361 --> 01:31:51,065
up one hoop. To lock bikes to. I bike out

1310
01:31:51,065 --> 01:31:53,905
there now, I don't stop there. And admittedly, maybe their

1311
01:31:53,905 --> 01:31:55,865
thinking is that nobody's going to stop and lock their

1312
01:31:55,865 --> 01:31:58,945
bike there, which may be the case, but. I can

1313
01:31:58,945 --> 01:32:01,505
envision that people would come there to meet other people

1314
01:32:01,505 --> 01:32:03,665
and go walking or to come and stop and go

1315
01:32:03,665 --> 01:32:06,265
birding and they might want to lock their bike up,

1316
01:32:06,265 --> 01:32:10,505
and I brought. That attendant to the attention of Michelle

1317
01:32:10,505 --> 01:32:12,665
Durant, who brought it when she was out there with

1318
01:32:12,665 --> 01:32:14,265
me one time, and she brought it to the attention

1319
01:32:14,265 --> 01:32:17,065
of somebody else, and so they've now put up two.

1320
01:32:17,065 --> 01:32:20,105
But just in the future, I think we need to

1321
01:32:20,105 --> 01:32:24,025
consider that biking as ebikes become more and more available

1322
01:32:24,025 --> 01:32:26,945
and popular, that biking is going to really become a

1323
01:32:26,945 --> 01:32:29,664
substitute for a lot of automobile travel. And that we

1324
01:32:29,664 --> 01:32:32,144
really needed to provide infrastructure for that as we're doing

1325
01:32:32,144 --> 01:32:35,808
new building. All right, John, do you have a question?

1326
01:32:35,808 --> 01:32:44,971
When you had John White poseack. When you showed the

1327
01:32:44,971 --> 01:32:52,102
map. Of. The casp map. Of inclusivity projects. It looked

1328
01:32:52,102 --> 01:32:58,812
like almost nothing. In east longmont, east lafayette. Places. Where?

1329
01:33:00,144 --> 01:33:05,530
I would imagine that's where most Latino. Residents are going

1330
01:33:05,530 --> 01:33:13,645
to live, it looks like. There's nothing. So what this

1331
01:33:13,645 --> 01:33:19,640
map is showing? Is where the Ada projects are, the

1332
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:22,920
signage that's being installed next year, so it doesn't show

1333
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,840
everything we're doing, okay, but it's showing those things that

1334
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:29,520
are happening that we're proposing to do next year, but

1335
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:33,454
there's going to be something with. Inclusivity in the east

1336
01:33:33,454 --> 01:33:35,934
part of the county. Well, to the extent we have

1337
01:33:35,934 --> 01:33:38,774
properties out there. Most of the properties that we own

1338
01:33:38,774 --> 01:33:42,359
in the eastern part of the county are agricultural. They're

1339
01:33:42,359 --> 01:33:46,322
not so much the recreational. I'm thinking. What would our

1340
01:33:46,322 --> 01:33:49,362
most eastern park be? I think it's Carolyn Homeberg. Preserved.

1341
01:33:49,362 --> 01:33:53,122
Well, maybe the Harnestoka property, which is right at the

1342
01:33:53,122 --> 01:33:59,347
intersection of. Rabbit Mountain is fairly far east, but it's

1343
01:33:59,347 --> 01:34:03,027
kind of getting into the foothills there's. Nothing right around

1344
01:34:03,027 --> 01:34:08,780
long. Crossing is pretty close. East wise.

1345
01:34:13,077 --> 01:34:18,470
Long one has a fair amount of infrastructure. In Lucille,

1346
01:34:18,470 --> 01:34:21,270
Lafayette, obviously as well. And we do have some jointly

1347
01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:30,296
owned properties. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions, Tony?

1348
01:34:32,663 --> 01:34:38,492
Tony. Louis. Thanks, tina. For the detailed presentation. I have

1349
01:34:38,492 --> 01:34:43,301
a couple of questions. One is. When this is submitted.

1350
01:34:44,632 --> 01:34:49,472
If post recommends to the board of commissioners that it

1351
01:34:49,472 --> 01:34:52,392
be approved. Do the commissioners go line by line do

1352
01:34:52,392 --> 01:34:57,195
they look at question? General buckets or do they go

1353
01:34:57,195 --> 01:35:00,355
line by line? Okay, so here's how it's. Organized in

1354
01:35:00,355 --> 01:35:04,849
the budget request. We have a $2 million line item.

1355
01:35:04,849 --> 01:35:09,449
So the projects that are $250,000 or less are lumped

1356
01:35:09,449 --> 01:35:13,449
together in that $2 million line item. Anything that's over

1357
01:35:13,449 --> 01:35:18,343
$250,000 gets its own light item, so. They are looking

1358
01:35:18,343 --> 01:35:22,423
more closely at the larger, more complicated projects, the multi

1359
01:35:22,423 --> 01:35:27,005
year projects and that's. The way it's been designed. In

1360
01:35:27,005 --> 01:35:29,685
the past, we've always brought a similar presentation to this,

1361
01:35:29,685 --> 01:35:32,845
to them so they could see everything, but they have

1362
01:35:32,845 --> 01:35:36,779
a lot on their plates. And just starting last year,

1363
01:35:38,388 --> 01:35:41,691
That. Is not happening anymore. So of course, if they

1364
01:35:41,691 --> 01:35:45,540
want it, we'll go and talk to them. But. They

1365
01:35:45,540 --> 01:35:47,580
don't necessarily see as much detail as you all are

1366
01:35:47,580 --> 01:35:52,873
seeing. Okay. Thank you. That's super helpful. The Cushman reveg.

1367
01:35:54,824 --> 01:35:59,549
Why is it in such poor shape? Well, great question,

1368
01:35:59,549 --> 01:36:02,589
and I think the AG staff would probably be able

1369
01:36:02,589 --> 01:36:05,869
to answer that much better. Than I could. It's partly

1370
01:36:05,869 --> 01:36:09,349
because of the location and what the pressures are in

1371
01:36:09,349 --> 01:36:13,583
that. Area. And we have long term. Well, we had

1372
01:36:13,583 --> 01:36:17,183
a long term lessee there who just didn't. Keep up

1373
01:36:17,183 --> 01:36:23,092
with his responsibilities despite. Every kind of encouragement. And whatever

1374
01:36:23,092 --> 01:36:25,812
they could think of whether it was a characteristic. And

1375
01:36:25,812 --> 01:36:29,689
so finally, he just didn't. Get renewed. And then we're

1376
01:36:29,689 --> 01:36:32,449
left with what's there and we're trying to do. It

1377
01:36:32,449 --> 01:36:34,889
differently and better going forward. I think that's my question

1378
01:36:34,889 --> 01:36:39,393
because I've been out there. And it's devastated. And with

1379
01:36:39,393 --> 01:36:42,873
a long term lessee like that, what is the stick?

1380
01:36:42,873 --> 01:36:46,714
What stick do we have? Besides non renewal. That's it.

1381
01:36:46,714 --> 01:36:51,052
The biggest one. Really? I mean, again. I know you're

1382
01:36:51,052 --> 01:36:55,787
not egg staff. Yeah, I don't see anybody. I'm just

1383
01:36:55,787 --> 01:36:58,667
curious if there. I mean, it seems. Like a very

1384
01:36:58,667 --> 01:37:06,173
binary thing. And it's difficult at times to deciding that

1385
01:37:06,173 --> 01:37:09,733
season whether somebody is managing that land well. Or not,

1386
01:37:09,733 --> 01:37:12,697
and. It just seems to me that there should be

1387
01:37:12,697 --> 01:37:16,575
more tools. For parks and open space staff to use

1388
01:37:16,575 --> 01:37:19,655
with the lessee. Then, like, you're renewed. Or you're not

1389
01:37:19,655 --> 01:37:25,338
renewed. If that land management. Isn't actually occurring. What I

1390
01:37:25,338 --> 01:37:27,578
can say about that. Tony, I agree with you and.

1391
01:37:30,055 --> 01:37:33,735
Partly it's a cultural issue, and so some farmers are

1392
01:37:33,735 --> 01:37:37,530
more eager to adopt new and different practices. And we

1393
01:37:37,530 --> 01:37:39,810
rely so heavily on our farmers. We call them our

1394
01:37:39,810 --> 01:37:42,490
partners in conservation, because we certainly don't have the staff

1395
01:37:42,490 --> 01:37:48,158
capacity to care for all those ag properties. So. It's

1396
01:37:48,158 --> 01:37:51,478
a delicate balance, and you can imagine for the AG

1397
01:37:51,478 --> 01:37:57,564
staff. Who? Have those relationships with the farmers. They want

1398
01:37:57,564 --> 01:38:01,237
them to be trusted friends. So it's a little bit

1399
01:38:01,237 --> 01:38:05,153
of a. I know it's hard. I get that. We're

1400
01:38:05,153 --> 01:38:06,153
working really hard on that. I can tell you that

1401
01:38:06,153 --> 01:38:08,513
much. But I don't. Know exactly where we are, but

1402
01:38:08,513 --> 01:38:12,753
I know we're working on providing incentives and even grants

1403
01:38:12,753 --> 01:38:15,753
for more soil health programs to take a little bit

1404
01:38:15,753 --> 01:38:19,673
of the risk away and help farmers maybe try newer.

1405
01:38:22,168 --> 01:38:25,789
Things that they haven't done before and so on. Okay.

1406
01:38:27,453 --> 01:38:30,984
Doesn't make me happy, but okay. Since we're on farming.

1407
01:38:30,984 --> 01:38:34,360
No, I will highlight that as something that. 'd be

1408
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:37,320
great. Maybe have a conversation with Mike or somebody around

1409
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:42,334
that, right, since we're. On the topic of egg. The

1410
01:38:42,334 --> 01:38:44,614
cost of a center pivot, of putting a center pivot

1411
01:38:44,614 --> 01:38:47,614
in is high, right? It's a lot of money, and

1412
01:38:47,614 --> 01:38:51,666
I'm just curious. The lessees don't seem to share in

1413
01:38:51,666 --> 01:38:57,958
that cost. So we're putting 250,000 into a center pivot

1414
01:38:57,958 --> 01:39:03,812
or whatever. That's actually. Correct. You. The way it works.

1415
01:39:07,063 --> 01:39:09,063
Is, the less he's actually by the center pivot and

1416
01:39:09,063 --> 01:39:13,023
they get the funding from. The NRCS natural resource conservation

1417
01:39:13,023 --> 01:39:16,103
service. There's a grant program where they get reimbursed for

1418
01:39:16,103 --> 01:39:19,226
some of the cost of that. We put in the

1419
01:39:19,226 --> 01:39:24,917
infrastructure. Yeah. The power. If there's a reservoir needed or

1420
01:39:24,917 --> 01:39:28,037
whatever, and we bring power to power the center pivot.

1421
01:39:28,037 --> 01:39:34,093
We are also in the process. Of looking at buying

1422
01:39:34,093 --> 01:39:37,653
those centerpoints from the farmers, because since they have bought

1423
01:39:37,653 --> 01:39:41,493
them, so that then it becomes our, as the landowner,

1424
01:39:41,493 --> 01:39:45,622
our asset to take care of and maintain. But if

1425
01:39:45,622 --> 01:39:49,218
a farmer buys the center pivot. And they end their

1426
01:39:49,218 --> 01:39:50,698
lease and they leave. They can take that center pivot

1427
01:39:50,698 --> 01:39:53,818
with them if. They so choose if they've bought it.

1428
01:39:53,818 --> 01:39:58,144
So our cost is the infrastructure cost, which. Clearly remains

1429
01:39:58,144 --> 01:40:01,584
of the land. That's really helpful. Thank you. That's really

1430
01:40:01,584 --> 01:40:06,931
helpful. Last question. Maybe the last question. I mean, the

1431
01:40:06,931 --> 01:40:14,570
cardinal mill chaps my ass, to be honest. $4 million

1432
01:40:14,570 --> 01:40:18,901
out of our budget. That's crazy. This is not you,

1433
01:40:18,901 --> 01:40:24,586
obviously. Yeah. It's just hard to imagine that we spent

1434
01:40:24,586 --> 01:40:28,746
$90,000 buying Cardinal mill. We put in a million dollars

1435
01:40:28,746 --> 01:40:31,706
to stabilize it, and now we have a $4 million

1436
01:40:31,706 --> 01:40:35,571
and counting. Right. This is not the end. This is

1437
01:40:35,571 --> 01:40:37,491
not even the beginning of the end. This is the

1438
01:40:37,491 --> 01:40:39,771
end at the beginning for how? Much money is going

1439
01:40:39,771 --> 01:40:42,931
to get popped into that property. And so it makes

1440
01:40:42,931 --> 01:40:46,942
me wonder. How good our environmental review was. Yeah, I

1441
01:40:46,942 --> 01:40:51,483
know. A CDPhe changed their standards. I get that. But

1442
01:40:51,483 --> 01:40:55,323
clearly gold, silver tongues and were all mine there. This

1443
01:40:55,323 --> 01:40:58,683
was not in. Oh, my goodness. Like, there's mine tailings

1444
01:40:58,683 --> 01:41:07,115
kind of issue. Acting director Wagner. Heidi wagner. I don't

1445
01:41:07,115 --> 01:41:10,235
know exactly the question in there, Tony, but not sure

1446
01:41:10,235 --> 01:41:15,374
there is one. I'm with you. The decision to purchase

1447
01:41:15,374 --> 01:41:21,478
Cardinal Mill. Was made by previous staff, and really what

1448
01:41:21,478 --> 01:41:25,776
they were looking at was the structure. And they placed

1449
01:41:25,776 --> 01:41:32,905
a high value on that historic structure. And. Asking them

1450
01:41:32,905 --> 01:41:38,587
that they've retired. And, hey, why did you purchase? And

1451
01:41:38,587 --> 01:41:41,187
there was also a combination of permits that happened at

1452
01:41:41,187 --> 01:41:43,547
the time of purchase. So there was a couple of

1453
01:41:43,547 --> 01:41:48,118
different permits and. We will have our project manager come

1454
01:41:48,118 --> 01:41:50,398
and talk to you about Cardinal Mill at a future

1455
01:41:50,398 --> 01:41:54,421
date. And give you some of these details. But let's

1456
01:41:54,421 --> 01:41:57,421
just say the discharge permits were combined, and it's actually

1457
01:41:57,421 --> 01:42:00,221
the combination. Of those permits that is coming back to

1458
01:42:00,221 --> 01:42:05,621
bite us, as well as how the drainage operates in

1459
01:42:05,621 --> 01:42:10,844
that watershed is incredibly complex. So we're handling more than

1460
01:42:10,844 --> 01:42:14,524
just the discharge from Cardinal Mill. It's just the. Whole

1461
01:42:14,524 --> 01:42:20,382
area has been mined. And you're right. We've already spent.

1462
01:42:21,974 --> 01:42:24,374
This year. I think we're getting close to 3 million,

1463
01:42:24,374 --> 01:42:27,995
and so. We are actively trying to work with the

1464
01:42:27,995 --> 01:42:33,742
state right now. On alternatives to those costs. Yeah, I

1465
01:42:33,742 --> 01:42:37,022
appreciate that. And I know this is a long issue.

1466
01:42:38,827 --> 01:42:42,497
Decisions made by other people as well. Thank you. Thank

1467
01:42:42,497 --> 01:42:46,286
you. It does lead to my last question. I'll stop.

1468
01:42:48,055 --> 01:42:51,632
Second to the last question. So I look at that

1469
01:42:51,632 --> 01:42:53,952
4 million and 3 million this year going out the

1470
01:42:53,952 --> 01:42:56,512
door. I don't see anything and I may have missed

1471
01:42:56,512 --> 01:42:59,272
it, so please tell me if I did any. Spending

1472
01:42:59,272 --> 01:43:02,912
on the fairgrounds. And there's two things around the fairgrounds

1473
01:43:02,912 --> 01:43:05,672
that concern me. One is. It's not clear to me

1474
01:43:05,672 --> 01:43:12,345
there's any plan. For the fairgrounds moving forward. There was

1475
01:43:12,345 --> 01:43:15,985
a plan. It costs too much. Everybody shelved it. There

1476
01:43:15,985 --> 01:43:19,385
is no plan that I'm aware of. And secondly, it's

1477
01:43:19,385 --> 01:43:22,225
kind of hard to believe that in this budget there's

1478
01:43:22,225 --> 01:43:26,825
nothing in the fairgrounds. Am I missing that? There's nothing.

1479
01:43:28,340 --> 01:43:30,820
In this plan. Fairground is actually a facility that is

1480
01:43:30,820 --> 01:43:34,660
maintained by the county, not by our department. It's maintained

1481
01:43:34,660 --> 01:43:37,580
by the facility, the county facilities department, so there's plenty

1482
01:43:37,580 --> 01:43:41,100
going on there that we don't even see. It doesn't

1483
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:44,701
get run through our budget. That's something we could probably

1484
01:43:44,701 --> 01:43:48,761
find out more and bring back that information. There's not

1485
01:43:48,761 --> 01:43:51,601
nothing going. Yeah, I'm sure there's something going on that's

1486
01:43:51,601 --> 01:43:54,241
good to know that it's not actually our budget I'm

1487
01:43:54,241 --> 01:43:57,761
curious around. The planning. Is that us or is that.

1488
01:43:57,761 --> 01:44:02,361
That was led by somebody in the architects division, but.

1489
01:44:02,361 --> 01:44:04,761
We were very closely involved in working with that. I

1490
01:44:04,761 --> 01:44:06,641
mean, Joe was. And do we know where that's going.

1491
01:44:08,405 --> 01:44:10,685
I haven't heard. Yeah, as far as I've heard, it's

1492
01:44:10,685 --> 01:44:13,845
just paused. For now because it was so expensive and

1493
01:44:13,845 --> 01:44:17,285
it wasn't a high priority for our decision. Makers. Yeah,

1494
01:44:17,285 --> 01:44:21,537
if we could maybe request. Just update on that? I'm

1495
01:44:21,537 --> 01:44:27,869
not sure it's Joe's update. It's probably somebody higher up

1496
01:44:27,869 --> 01:44:30,549
in one of the. Or either the county or pos.

1497
01:44:30,549 --> 01:44:34,427
But. He's done a great job managing it, but I'm

1498
01:44:34,427 --> 01:44:38,707
just curious about what's. The future of the planning around

1499
01:44:38,707 --> 01:44:41,347
the fairgrounds, given that it was too expensive. Got shelved.

1500
01:44:41,347 --> 01:44:47,253
And. Now it's just crickets. Thanks. Thank you. All right.

1501
01:44:49,214 --> 01:44:54,493
John, you got one? Yeah. John Wright. Pose, act. The

1502
01:44:54,493 --> 01:44:59,613
projects you've proposed. It seems like they all make sense

1503
01:44:59,613 --> 01:45:03,777
that are all required. But a $9 million price tag.

1504
01:45:05,985 --> 01:45:10,043
Is this something? That county commissioners are expecting. Was this

1505
01:45:10,043 --> 01:45:14,256
planned ahead of time? Or is this something where it's

1506
01:45:14,256 --> 01:45:20,628
$9 million out of. The blue. Sure spending $9 million

1507
01:45:20,628 --> 01:45:24,588
is one thing when it's within the planned context. If

1508
01:45:24,588 --> 01:45:30,825
it's out of the blue. That's a different issue. Yeah,

1509
01:45:30,825 --> 01:45:32,625
I think that's a pretty simple one to answer. Good.

1510
01:45:34,331 --> 01:45:38,411
$2 million line item that I was explaining in response

1511
01:45:38,411 --> 01:45:42,027
to Tony's earlier question. That's been in our budget for

1512
01:45:42,027 --> 01:45:44,331
as long as I can remember. And I took this

1513
01:45:44,331 --> 01:45:47,612
over more years ago than I care to admit. I

1514
01:45:47,612 --> 01:45:49,572
would have to divulge my age to tell you that.

1515
01:45:51,628 --> 01:45:57,349
But, yeah, they always expect that. The projects that are

1516
01:45:57,349 --> 01:46:01,749
the larger dollar amounts, they are aware of those because

1517
01:46:01,749 --> 01:46:06,841
they're all ongoing, and they're all continuing. I think, almost

1518
01:46:06,841 --> 01:46:09,481
without exception, I could be wrong. There might be one

1519
01:46:09,481 --> 01:46:16,185
or two. But I believe. They're all certainly the cardinal

1520
01:46:16,185 --> 01:46:19,651
water quality. They're well aware of that. And the Prince

1521
01:46:19,651 --> 01:46:22,251
Lake, the prairie run, the Howl ditch, the heron Lake.

1522
01:46:22,251 --> 01:46:24,051
So a lot of these like, for example, prairie run.

1523
01:46:25,576 --> 01:46:31,805
Had. A very thorough planning process. And then. A very

1524
01:46:31,805 --> 01:46:36,977
thorough. Public input. And hearing and. Yeah, we don't have

1525
01:46:36,977 --> 01:46:40,739
to go there. But they're well aware of that, and

1526
01:46:40,739 --> 01:46:44,819
so they understand and agree with those priorities. So those

1527
01:46:44,819 --> 01:46:47,779
things are, and they're also all funded. And I fail

1528
01:46:47,779 --> 01:46:51,296
to mention this, I'm just realizing. They're all funded out

1529
01:46:51,296 --> 01:46:54,016
of our sales tax, our open space sales tax. So

1530
01:46:54,016 --> 01:46:57,494
it's. Not as though. They're having to take something out

1531
01:46:57,494 --> 01:47:00,334
of the general fund and take it away from a

1532
01:47:00,334 --> 01:47:03,214
different department within the county. This is all the money

1533
01:47:03,214 --> 01:47:07,454
that has been dedicated for open space purposes. And so.

1534
01:47:09,069 --> 01:47:12,869
We want to justify them and show why they're important

1535
01:47:12,869 --> 01:47:15,429
and they're a high. Priority now, but it is the

1536
01:47:15,429 --> 01:47:18,829
money that is voted on and approved for open space

1537
01:47:18,829 --> 01:47:26,219
purchases, so. You're expecting. Our. Based on what we think.

1538
01:47:28,879 --> 01:47:32,136
You're doing a good job, which I do. But what's

1539
01:47:32,136 --> 01:47:36,856
the reason? If it's something that's expected, what's the reason

1540
01:47:36,856 --> 01:47:41,708
for asking. We still have to go through the budget

1541
01:47:41,708 --> 01:47:45,137
process and. They have to approve it so that it

1542
01:47:45,137 --> 01:47:48,297
can be, the budgets can be set up and there's

1543
01:47:48,297 --> 01:47:50,497
all this stuff that happens behind the scenes through the

1544
01:47:50,497 --> 01:47:53,537
finance division, where all the tax money goes and so

1545
01:47:53,537 --> 01:47:56,737
on. So they still have to appropriate it, and then

1546
01:47:56,737 --> 01:47:59,017
we have to set up our budgets within oracle and

1547
01:47:59,017 --> 01:48:01,777
all those things. So that's just how it goes. It's

1548
01:48:01,777 --> 01:48:07,606
the way the county process works. Thank you. Derek, did

1549
01:48:07,606 --> 01:48:15,028
you have a question? I did. Okay, well, then we'll

1550
01:48:15,028 --> 01:48:18,563
go to Christine and we'll come back, okay? I appreciate

1551
01:48:18,563 --> 01:48:22,976
Christine Johnson Poseack I appreciate. The questions about the federal

1552
01:48:22,976 --> 01:48:25,936
and state grants and about the cardinal bill, but something

1553
01:48:25,936 --> 01:48:30,440
that hasn't been asked. If we are fencing moose out.

1554
01:48:32,654 --> 01:48:38,042
I don't quite understand. Where are they going? And are

1555
01:48:38,042 --> 01:48:44,492
we pushing moose onto someone else? No. It's a smallish

1556
01:48:44,492 --> 01:48:49,311
area. Near the delon barn on Caribou ranch. There's a

1557
01:48:49,311 --> 01:48:53,321
big wet area there. The fen and so on. At

1558
01:48:53,321 --> 01:48:56,081
least. What I understand is our plant ecologists have expected

1559
01:48:56,081 --> 01:48:58,481
the cottonwoods to come back. That they're just not, because.

1560
01:49:00,996 --> 01:49:02,916
They are getting decimated by the moose, so they want

1561
01:49:02,916 --> 01:49:06,036
to give them a chance to get reestablished. Thank you.

1562
01:49:06,036 --> 01:49:08,596
That makes sense. Okay. I would imagine it might be

1563
01:49:08,596 --> 01:49:11,436
temporary fencing until they. Get out of reach of the

1564
01:49:11,436 --> 01:49:18,211
moose. Probably. Derek. Derek Turner tagging out to John's question.

1565
01:49:20,488 --> 01:49:23,456
And. We've had some long presentations about the budget process

1566
01:49:23,456 --> 01:49:26,816
at our retreat, and I hope that those continued? No,

1567
01:49:26,816 --> 01:49:32,713
I think that's great. As part of that, so. We're

1568
01:49:32,713 --> 01:49:37,193
voting to recommend that your budget submittal includes this package.

1569
01:49:38,668 --> 01:49:42,618
We're asking you to. Say that you approved. You've looked

1570
01:49:42,618 --> 01:49:46,598
at and approved. This package of capital and stewardship projects

1571
01:49:46,598 --> 01:49:51,238
and the broader parks and open space budget includes other

1572
01:49:51,238 --> 01:49:57,385
packages. Are those also coming? For a similar presentation. There's

1573
01:49:57,385 --> 01:49:59,465
various elements to the budget, and one of them is

1574
01:49:59,465 --> 01:50:05,983
personnel. Those aren't really the kinds of things we bring

1575
01:50:05,983 --> 01:50:10,244
to you. So. No, this is it. I'm sure we

1576
01:50:10,244 --> 01:50:13,284
could come back and explain how all these pieces fit

1577
01:50:13,284 --> 01:50:17,575
together and to create the puzzle. And I think we've

1578
01:50:17,575 --> 01:50:22,381
had some of those presentations in the last year. Teresa

1579
01:50:22,381 --> 01:50:25,741
is not here. I think she has mentioned bringing at

1580
01:50:25,741 --> 01:50:31,415
least the information. Presentation to say. Here's what we're submitting,

1581
01:50:31,415 --> 01:50:33,975
even if it's not. For a recommendation. I find that

1582
01:50:33,975 --> 01:50:37,535
to be super interesting. Yeah, and Heidi just whispered in

1583
01:50:37,535 --> 01:50:39,975
my ear. That Teresa is planning to do that. Great.

1584
01:50:41,545 --> 01:50:42,745
And then I guess the other thing that I would

1585
01:50:42,745 --> 01:50:48,194
find really interesting is. An update on here's last year's

1586
01:50:48,194 --> 01:50:54,381
cast projects. Here's how much we've spent here's. How much?

1587
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:59,865
Did you? Stick. Typically, I would expect that you're coming

1588
01:50:59,865 --> 01:51:03,500
under budget. Or pretty close, right? I mean, I guess.

1589
01:51:05,010 --> 01:51:07,050
You don't ever want to have money left over, right?

1590
01:51:07,050 --> 01:51:12,169
I guess it's different. Maybe. For your dedicated pool, but

1591
01:51:12,169 --> 01:51:16,289
something that is also the look back at cast projects

1592
01:51:16,289 --> 01:51:20,693
from last year. And how that. Yeah, absolutely. In the

1593
01:51:20,693 --> 01:51:22,773
past, we used to do this more towards the end

1594
01:51:22,773 --> 01:51:26,993
of the year, and I always included. Like an update

1595
01:51:26,993 --> 01:51:30,818
on how the current year had gone. We kind of

1596
01:51:30,818 --> 01:51:35,298
adjusted our timing with this to fit better with our

1597
01:51:35,298 --> 01:51:38,698
division's budgeting. Planning, but at the end of the year,

1598
01:51:38,698 --> 01:51:41,858
we always come and give an update for all the

1599
01:51:41,858 --> 01:51:45,218
accomplishments of the year. It's kind of wrapped together, and

1600
01:51:45,218 --> 01:51:49,187
so it doesn't necessarily pull out. The capital versus some

1601
01:51:49,187 --> 01:51:51,627
of the programmatic things and the operational things and so

1602
01:51:51,627 --> 01:51:54,482
on. But, yeah, we do do that. And if you

1603
01:51:54,482 --> 01:51:56,722
would like to see a little bit more specifically on

1604
01:51:56,722 --> 01:52:01,655
capital projects. We can certainly do that. Great. For my

1605
01:52:01,655 --> 01:52:08,311
continued going on, but. I sometimes would love to hear.

1606
01:52:09,838 --> 01:52:11,318
We're six months into the year. How is the sales

1607
01:52:11,318 --> 01:52:15,802
tax collection going? With what you budgeted. Are we doing?

1608
01:52:15,802 --> 01:52:19,126
Pretty well. And I know at least at a year

1609
01:52:19,126 --> 01:52:21,126
end it would be nice to see, but I'm always

1610
01:52:21,126 --> 01:52:24,046
interested in seeing where we're at, with what we anticipated,

1611
01:52:24,046 --> 01:52:27,006
what we're collecting. I think that's kind of a pretty

1612
01:52:27,006 --> 01:52:30,086
standard thing that governments have to do. We have to

1613
01:52:30,086 --> 01:52:38,298
adjust. And finally. Project Pacific Prairie run year three, starting

1614
01:52:38,298 --> 01:52:44,015
the design. For phase two. Any updates on. What we

1615
01:52:44,015 --> 01:52:46,695
can expect to see for phase one this year. Heidi

1616
01:52:46,695 --> 01:52:50,545
is a perfect person to tell you more about. Heidi

1617
01:52:50,545 --> 01:52:55,696
wagner yes. So it's going well. I guess I can

1618
01:52:55,696 --> 01:52:59,296
share good news, bad news regarding the southwest cluster of

1619
01:52:59,296 --> 01:53:01,416
Prairie Run, which I think we had shared with you

1620
01:53:01,416 --> 01:53:04,256
previously that we were hopeful to open that section of

1621
01:53:04,256 --> 01:53:08,289
the property. By the end of the year. The bad

1622
01:53:08,289 --> 01:53:13,249
news is we don't anticipate achieving that deadline. But the

1623
01:53:13,249 --> 01:53:16,931
good news is. The reason that we are not going

1624
01:53:16,931 --> 01:53:19,891
to achieve it is because the county has recently updated

1625
01:53:19,891 --> 01:53:27,493
their procurement policies. And to be more inclusive, so. We

1626
01:53:27,493 --> 01:53:32,373
can hire minority owned businesses and have a process to

1627
01:53:32,373 --> 01:53:37,090
look for minority businesses in our contracting. Process. And prairie

1628
01:53:37,090 --> 01:53:40,349
run. Was selected to be the first one out of

1629
01:53:40,349 --> 01:53:44,252
the gate to use that process. So that's the good

1630
01:53:44,252 --> 01:53:49,066
news. So the bad news. It did set us off

1631
01:53:49,066 --> 01:53:51,506
of our timeline, but I can't think of a better

1632
01:53:51,506 --> 01:53:55,826
reason. So we do hope to have that opened instead

1633
01:53:55,826 --> 01:53:58,666
the first quarter of 26, and that would be the

1634
01:53:58,666 --> 01:54:03,087
southwest piece. We are currently underway with design on the

1635
01:54:03,087 --> 01:54:08,927
northeast cluster. It's actually headed towards 50%. Design already, and

1636
01:54:08,927 --> 01:54:13,670
so next year's funding is not really about design. It's

1637
01:54:13,670 --> 01:54:18,134
about the clomers and. All of the other permits that

1638
01:54:18,134 --> 01:54:23,446
we'll have to obtain. To start construction in 27. Great.

1639
01:54:23,446 --> 01:54:31,337
Thanks. Yeah. All right. Any more questions? Going? Gone. Actually,

1640
01:54:31,337 --> 01:54:33,857
I do have a comment and a question. I think

1641
01:54:33,857 --> 01:54:36,057
it's a pretty short question. And this is Janet. George

1642
01:54:36,057 --> 01:54:42,299
Posek. I better set a good example. So my comment

1643
01:54:42,299 --> 01:54:46,379
is as a frequent user of pella crossing, it's good

1644
01:54:46,379 --> 01:54:50,075
to see I've been watching. For several years now, at

1645
01:54:50,075 --> 01:54:53,628
least since the flood, and it reopened. So it's good

1646
01:54:53,628 --> 01:54:56,508
to see that it's getting fixed, and I'll be encouraged

1647
01:54:56,508 --> 01:54:59,428
to watch as that occurs in the next year or

1648
01:54:59,428 --> 01:55:03,116
so. So my question is, going on to the perimeter

1649
01:55:03,116 --> 01:55:07,516
fencing. I'm supportive. It's good. To see the perimeter fencing

1650
01:55:07,516 --> 01:55:11,636
getting done. There's a big need for that. My question

1651
01:55:11,636 --> 01:55:16,134
is. Is wildlife friendly fencing being used on the perimeter.

1652
01:55:16,134 --> 01:55:20,974
Fencing Colorado Parks wildlife has a fencing with wildlife in

1653
01:55:20,974 --> 01:55:24,334
mind, and I don't know if that's. What if that

1654
01:55:24,334 --> 01:55:26,894
kind of fencing. Is being used, and I would encourage

1655
01:55:26,894 --> 01:55:31,247
that that be considered. Yeah. I'm not 100% sure, but

1656
01:55:31,247 --> 01:55:34,302
I'm pretty sure they use the one. With the more

1657
01:55:34,302 --> 01:55:37,502
flexible wire on the top or on the bottom, like,

1658
01:55:37,502 --> 01:55:40,862
no barbs on the yeah, exactly. Okay. Yeah, exactly. That'd

1659
01:55:40,862 --> 01:55:44,711
be great. I'm saying it's based on conversations I've overheard,

1660
01:55:44,711 --> 01:55:48,471
so I can't. Guarantee that it may be different from

1661
01:55:48,471 --> 01:55:51,631
perimeter versus interior. I'm not sure, but we can come

1662
01:55:51,631 --> 01:55:53,819
back to you with that. It would be nice to

1663
01:55:53,819 --> 01:55:55,139
know because the old fancy and there's a lot of

1664
01:55:55,139 --> 01:55:58,459
old. Fencing. That's not that way. So it's great if

1665
01:55:58,459 --> 01:56:02,049
the news can be that. Way. All right, so I

1666
01:56:02,049 --> 01:56:06,438
don't see any public comment. Do we have nick? Do

1667
01:56:06,438 --> 01:56:11,766
we have anybody online? We don't have any hands raised,

1668
01:56:11,766 --> 01:56:15,191
all right? I don't think at this point we need

1669
01:56:15,191 --> 01:56:17,711
more discussion. There will be a chance after a motion

1670
01:56:17,711 --> 01:56:21,607
since we've got some new people here. So does anybody

1671
01:56:21,607 --> 01:56:23,767
want to make a motion? What we're going to motion

1672
01:56:23,767 --> 01:56:28,127
is recommendation to the Boulder county commissioners to prove the

1673
01:56:28,127 --> 01:56:34,124
proposed parks and oatmeal space. 2026 capital and stewardship projects,

1674
01:56:34,124 --> 01:56:38,344
as described in the memo. And as described by staff.

1675
01:56:39,633 --> 01:56:43,165
Is anybody ready to make that motion? I'll make the

1676
01:56:43,165 --> 01:56:48,343
motion. So moved. Anybody want to do a second? I'll

1677
01:56:48,343 --> 01:56:51,263
second. Okay, so we got a motion, and we've. Got

1678
01:56:51,263 --> 01:56:55,897
a second. Is there any more discussion? I don't see

1679
01:56:55,897 --> 01:57:01,017
any discussion. All right, so we're going to go to

1680
01:57:01,017 --> 01:57:04,537
a vote on what I just read all in favor.

1681
01:57:06,233 --> 01:57:10,633
All right, motion passes. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank

1682
01:57:10,633 --> 01:57:13,993
you, Tina. And again, thank you to our staff who

1683
01:57:13,993 --> 01:57:15,833
do all the work behind the scenes and who don't

1684
01:57:15,833 --> 01:57:20,930
get to stand up. Here and hear. Your positive comments,

1685
01:57:20,930 --> 01:57:26,212
but I'll pass them on point. All right. Again, I

1686
01:57:26,212 --> 01:57:28,692
don't see any public here, but the next agenda item

1687
01:57:28,692 --> 01:57:32,692
is public comment, period. For items not on the agenda.

1688
01:57:32,692 --> 01:57:34,452
No one's in the room. Do we have anybody online?

1689
01:57:36,142 --> 01:57:39,862
I'll give a second for anybody on the zoom call

1690
01:57:39,862 --> 01:57:41,782
to raise their hand if they would like to make

1691
01:57:41,782 --> 01:57:46,970
comments. I don't see any hands raised. Okay. Thank you.

1692
01:57:51,146 --> 01:57:54,746
Agenda. Item six is postac members comment period for items

1693
01:57:54,746 --> 01:57:58,065
not on the agenda. Do you have anybody want to

1694
01:57:58,065 --> 01:58:03,972
comment? Derek turner kozak. Popped into my head when I

1695
01:58:03,972 --> 01:58:09,145
was driving. On. I always forget what number it is.

1696
01:58:09,145 --> 01:58:12,945
Between Lookout and 52 on the road that goes north.

1697
01:58:12,945 --> 01:58:15,545
And south, where we just bought. I assume the county

1698
01:58:15,545 --> 01:58:21,056
commissioner is closed on that 79th. The property that we

1699
01:58:21,056 --> 01:58:25,704
talked about last month and. I know, right, that it

1700
01:58:25,704 --> 01:58:28,906
was going to be. Another facility. That county owns it.

1701
01:58:28,906 --> 01:58:31,226
Surrounded by city. I just couldn't help. That's. One of

1702
01:58:31,226 --> 01:58:36,306
the most spectacular views in our county. Traveled frequently. I

1703
01:58:36,306 --> 01:58:39,798
would love for the county to consider. Some way to

1704
01:58:39,798 --> 01:58:42,558
have a little stop there, like a rest stop with

1705
01:58:42,558 --> 01:58:45,758
a little parking lot and. A place to enjoy the

1706
01:58:45,758 --> 01:58:50,874
view and maybe be an opportunity for some interpretive. Sign.

1707
01:58:53,621 --> 01:58:57,650
Boulder county parks and open space. Just strikes me as

1708
01:58:57,650 --> 01:59:00,170
a place where I think it would be nice to

1709
01:59:00,170 --> 01:59:05,311
have some way to enjoy that spot. And. There's no

1710
01:59:05,311 --> 01:59:08,566
other with the city land being closed. I think it

1711
01:59:08,566 --> 01:59:13,530
provides an opportunity. Sure. Janice Whistman again. Hi, Derek. Thank

1712
01:59:13,530 --> 01:59:16,930
you for that suggestion. Just a reminder to all of

1713
01:59:16,930 --> 01:59:19,210
you that when we come here with a recommendation and

1714
01:59:19,210 --> 01:59:20,810
then we go to the board. Really? A couple of

1715
01:59:20,810 --> 01:59:24,450
weeks later to get their approval on acquisitions. There's still

1716
01:59:24,450 --> 01:59:26,770
a due diligence process and it takes a while to

1717
01:59:26,770 --> 01:59:29,570
close, and we have not yet purchased that property. Just

1718
01:59:29,570 --> 01:59:33,723
FYI. But it is going to happen this summer, we

1719
01:59:33,723 --> 01:59:37,083
hope. And then I'm happy to pass. That suggestion along

1720
01:59:37,083 --> 01:59:41,141
and we'll see. Where that might go, so thank you.

1721
01:59:41,141 --> 01:59:43,981
Thanks. And I'd second his idea. That's a great idea.

1722
01:59:45,190 --> 01:59:49,550
All right. Any more from Posec? I don't see anything,

1723
01:59:49,550 --> 01:59:56,954
so, moving on. It's director's update time, Heidi. All right.

1724
01:59:56,954 --> 02:00:02,354
Heidi Wagner, strategic foundation's deputy director. And I am not

1725
02:00:02,354 --> 02:00:05,754
Terese. She is. Enjoying some well deserved time off, so

1726
02:00:05,754 --> 02:00:08,914
I'm filling in for her tonight. Just a few. Updates

1727
02:00:08,914 --> 02:00:13,449
to share with you. Back to the real estate world.

1728
02:00:13,449 --> 02:00:18,078
Janice mentioned this earlier, but we received. A very generous

1729
02:00:18,078 --> 02:00:23,358
donation of a conservation easement for 136 acres west of

1730
02:00:23,358 --> 02:00:29,191
Gold Hill. It's valued about $1 million and. It is

1731
02:00:29,191 --> 02:00:33,155
a part of that four mile. Creek area, Bald Mountain

1732
02:00:33,155 --> 02:00:36,675
Environmental Conservation Area, if you're familiar with that. And it's

1733
02:00:36,675 --> 02:00:40,635
also a rare plant community, so we were delighted to

1734
02:00:40,635 --> 02:00:44,091
receive that very good news. Is that Easter west? Sorry.

1735
02:00:44,091 --> 02:00:46,371
Vicky Lawrence with Posac. Is that east of Gold Hill

1736
02:00:46,371 --> 02:00:49,711
or. West of gold. It's west. Bald Mountain is quite

1737
02:00:49,711 --> 02:00:52,671
always east. So I'm just confused. It's like the environmental

1738
02:00:52,671 --> 02:00:56,311
conservation area associated with Bald Mountain and four Mile Creek.

1739
02:00:58,188 --> 02:01:03,236
It's all big zone. And then I don't know if

1740
02:01:03,236 --> 02:01:07,436
anyone had a chance last weekend, but education and outreach.

1741
02:01:07,436 --> 02:01:10,596
Hosted animals on the farm at the ag Heritage center.

1742
02:01:10,596 --> 02:01:13,876
Did anyone get a chance to go. It was a

1743
02:01:13,876 --> 02:01:16,836
really neat event. The pictures that were shared with staff.

1744
02:01:17,965 --> 02:01:21,068
Were really meaningful. And there was a big crowd and

1745
02:01:21,068 --> 02:01:26,041
lots of volunteers. Participated, and we're at that very successful

1746
02:01:26,041 --> 02:01:29,895
event. And I believe they host it annually. Can I

1747
02:01:29,895 --> 02:01:34,117
tell something about that? Of course. Sorry. Jump in. But

1748
02:01:34,117 --> 02:01:37,677
trace was there. And trace, as you may know, Posec

1749
02:01:37,677 --> 02:01:40,437
member is also on the foundation. Board and the foundation

1750
02:01:40,437 --> 02:01:43,757
hosted a table. So Trace helped out to staff the

1751
02:01:43,757 --> 02:01:45,957
table and helped us. Set up and everything, so. Yay,

1752
02:01:45,957 --> 02:01:51,569
trace. We appreciate him representing all of you here. And

1753
02:01:51,569 --> 02:01:55,409
other happy news. I think this is a first, which

1754
02:01:55,409 --> 02:01:58,929
is why our agricultural division shared it. For an update

1755
02:01:58,929 --> 02:02:06,146
tonight. But one of our tenants, Dan Lisco, he hired

1756
02:02:06,146 --> 02:02:13,033
a drone company to seed Tef. And drones are becoming

1757
02:02:13,033 --> 02:02:17,067
more of a thing in agriculture. And we got, again,

1758
02:02:17,067 --> 02:02:20,147
some great pictures out there. And, of course, that permit

1759
02:02:20,147 --> 02:02:26,670
had to go through. Parks to approve the drone. But

1760
02:02:26,670 --> 02:02:30,074
it was quite successful, so. That was a story we

1761
02:02:30,074 --> 02:02:34,744
wanted to share. Another application of drone on our agricultural

1762
02:02:34,744 --> 02:02:39,454
lands. And then, as you just heard from Janet that

1763
02:02:39,454 --> 02:02:45,279
the commissioners did approve. The purchase that Derek and John

1764
02:02:45,279 --> 02:02:48,559
just mentioned, the range view property. They did approve it,

1765
02:02:48,559 --> 02:02:52,559
but as she, to reiterate, it has not closed yet.

1766
02:02:52,559 --> 02:02:55,879
And then, last but not least, have any of you

1767
02:02:55,879 --> 02:03:00,963
had the opportunity. To enjoy our first three episodes of

1768
02:03:00,963 --> 02:03:05,549
the Parks and open space podcast. Coria is no longer

1769
02:03:05,549 --> 02:03:11,001
here. But I have to tell you, he has done

1770
02:03:11,001 --> 02:03:16,570
an amazing job putting together. An incredibly professional podcast. And

1771
02:03:16,570 --> 02:03:21,170
he has posted it to every podcast platform as well

1772
02:03:21,170 --> 02:03:24,090
as uploaded a video to YouTube. So if you look

1773
02:03:24,090 --> 02:03:26,650
at our parks and open space YouTube channel, it is

1774
02:03:26,650 --> 02:03:30,050
there. Or you can look at Boulder county parks in

1775
02:03:30,050 --> 02:03:34,915
open space. On any of. The apps that you get

1776
02:03:34,915 --> 02:03:38,555
to your podcast on right now. Tina was our first

1777
02:03:38,555 --> 02:03:43,995
guest, followed by Therese, followed by myself. And we're going

1778
02:03:43,995 --> 02:03:47,595
to have future episodes to come. But the first three

1779
02:03:47,595 --> 02:03:50,355
are out, and I would encourage you to check those

1780
02:03:50,355 --> 02:03:53,315
out and share them with your networks. They're pretty neat.

1781
02:03:54,102 --> 02:03:58,270
And those are my updates. All right. Thank you. Thank

1782
02:03:58,270 --> 02:04:03,792
you, Heidi. Any questions, comments? Thank you for reminding us

1783
02:04:03,792 --> 02:04:09,013
of the podcast. Yes. Thank you, Janet. Great job. Thank

1784
02:04:09,013 --> 02:04:14,043
you, Derek. Great job. All right, well, we are adjourned.

1785
02:04:14,043 --> 02:04:16,363
And I got to have this hammer and do something.

1786
02:04:16,363 --> 02:04:18,923
With it. There we are. Good evening, everyone.