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And we're recording. Good evening. And thank you for attending the August 27th meeting of the Parks and Open Space Advisory Committee meeting.

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My name is Trace Baker, and I'm Chair for this session. First, we'll start with roll call. Trace Baker, President.

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Ariel Barbieri.

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President.

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Carol Barley.

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President.

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Christine Johnson.

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Here.

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Lauren Kelso.

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Here.

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Vicki Lawrence is excused.

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Joan Lutz.

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And Jeff Odie.

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I do not see him here.

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John White.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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There are no topics on tonight's agenda requiring a decision

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or a recommendation of a decision by Posec, therefore we will not be accepting public input tonight.

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First topic, isn't it?

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Christine Johnson, I aren't the voting on the...

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We're not making a recommendation to the county commissioners.

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Ah, that we are voting.

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Yes.

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But we're not taking public opinion on that.

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So Jeff Audie did show up, so he is present.

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Okay, so our first topic is an information topic.

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An Natalie Springment is going to be rising us

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on the advisory board standardization

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in general public comment.

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It's all yours Natalie.

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Thank you, Ter.

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Good evening.

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My name is Natalie Springett,

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and I am the commissioner's deputy.

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I appreciate the opportunity this evening to present to Pozac.

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For some additional context, Boulder County boards and committees are overseeing by the Commissioner's Office,

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which is the department I run here at Boulder County and why I'm presenting on this topic to you all this evening.

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I will be speaking to the topic of the change in general public comment at Pozac meetings that was implemented in April 2026.

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Both are county continues to advance its strategic priority of good governance by regular

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revealing how county resources are used and identify opportunities to improve efficiency,

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consistency and clarity in county operations.

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Earlier this year, as part of the

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efficiencies work, the Commissioner's Office reviewed Post Act's meeting structure,

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agenda setting process and public comment practices.

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This led to implementing changes to post-acts meeting process including no longer having

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general public comment and instead allowing public comment on specific agenda items

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where recommendation to the BOCC is made.

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Having the recording act as the meeting minutes.

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Having agenda topics aligned with the areas of authority, listed in the Post Act by

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Laws, as well as setting a standard end time for meetings to allow for our staff to

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appropriately schedule their personal time.

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These process changes were presented to Post Act at the April 2026 annual retreat.

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Post Act's role is advisory.

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You all provide recommendations to the Board of County Commissioners on specific topics as outlined in your by-laws.

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These topics include open-space acquisitions and dispositions, capital improvement plans, management plans and policies.

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Historically, post-act did accept general public comment, and this has unintentionally created some confusion for the public.

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Members of the public often assume post that can act on broad issues, even those that fall outside of its advisory authority or belong to different departments.

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The Boulder County Commissioners offer two monthly public comment opportunities where the public can bring any issue directly to the elected officials who can act.

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The intention of the process change in April of limiting public comment to areas specifically designated within the POSAC by laws was to eliminate this confusion and to use county resources including staff time to address issues specifically within POSAC's authority.

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I am here this evening because POSAC has expressed interest in reinstating general public comment and the commissioners have heard this request.

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I am here on behalf of the Board and the Commissioner's Support Post Act, determining its own meeting structure with regards to in stating general public comment.

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Should Post Act want to include public general public comment at monthly meetings?

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Then this evening we would ask that Post Act take a vote on this item.

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If general public comment does return, in order to align with the efficiencies and

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consistencies that we are looking for use of county resources here, the Board of County

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Commissioners would like general public comment to be capped at 30 minutes per meeting

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with individual speakers limited to three minutes per their public comment time with no

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commissioners and myself would also request that Post Act meetings continue to adhere to the

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newly scheduled end time. Additionally, as listed in the memo, we have provided some suggested language

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for the chair of Post Act to state on the record when opening general public comment. The intention

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of that is to eliminate any confusion or lack of clarity to members of the public about what

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post that can and cannot act on and I will end my brief presentation this evening with gratitude

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for all of you as our post act members and also to our community members. Together, you all

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continue to contribute to informed and transparent decision-making processes. Thank you.

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Not only thank you, I post that thanks you and we also thank the county commissioners for a

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positive response to our concerns about the recent limitations from public input.

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I've got a number of questions, and I'm sure that other post-hack members will

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also before we take a vote.

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So the new structured limits each speaker to three minutes.

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the bylaws June 25th 2020 section 6.E say public participation will be limited to five

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and then minutes and in cases where there are many people of what requesting to speak.

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New structure that you're suggesting, desaps, I mean, that we need to change the bylaws.

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Thank you for that question, Chair. This would only apply to general public comment, so your post-second

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still welcome to follow those bylaws for those agenda or decision items, and that both

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of these five minutes, with allowing a full time on decision items, and three minutes,

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with no pulling of time for general public comment, aligns with the standards of our other boards.

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Thank you. So will the general public comment also include online comments, or do people have to be in the hall here?

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Thank you for that question, and I am going to answer that without having checked in with our streaming staff in the back,

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But I believe that this can be offered both virtually and in person for your meetings.

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Okay, thank you.

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And my understanding of both sacks authority defined under open space management plans and policies is actually quite broad.

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Because we generally have a plan to cover most of what we discuss here.

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So, you know, herbicide use, prairie dogs, eagles,

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those are all covered by plants is my interpretation

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of that correct.

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Yes, that is lined with my interpretation as well.

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OK, thank you.

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And during general public comment, if the Post Act

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chair deems a speaker's topic to be outside post-hax authority,

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can hear she terminate the speaker's time. For example, a number of times people will come

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in confusing county policy and city open space policy. So if somebody comes in and talks

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about city open space, can we lightly cut them off or should we let them continue for

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their three minutes and possibly freeze out somebody else? That would be at the discretion of the

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that chair, how to handle those instances, our request would just be that you apply that consistently

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throughout all the meetings you chair.

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Thank you.

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Something else that we discussed was relaxing the eight o'clock PM meeting termination time,

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if there are enough comments to exceed that limit.

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Did the commissioners discuss this request also?

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I believe that would actually align with the original intention and presentation to post-acts,

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where if you are in the middle of active public comment on a decision item, then the need to

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extend the meeting time for those very specific circumstances would be at the will of both the

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chair as well as the Parks and Open Space Director. Okay, but since we're moving general

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public comment to the end of the evening session, we're likely to run up against head

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eight o'clock limits so can we relax that one? The commissioners did not provide the ability

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to relax that. And time, I would be happy to discuss having more opportunity for post-act

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to determine if general public comment should go earlier in the agenda so that you don't

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run up against that. Okay, thank you. I appreciate that and please do check that out. Do we have

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any other questions from Posec?

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When people speak your name, please?

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John White, Posec.

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The people give public comments to us on things that we can't control.

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There were a bunch of people that we're talking about, open writing at the Fairgrounds.

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We couldn't control it.

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We don't want to waste their time if we're hearing comments about something that we don't control does this just go into the ether or did the commissioners get some feedback?

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I doubt they sit and watch all these.

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It's all 33 of the advisory committees.

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Is it?

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I don't want people to waste their time.

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I won't give them an opportunity to be heard.

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How does this get to the commissioners?

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Thank you for that question committee member way.

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Our ask would just be that if there are specific topics, that is very clear to you,

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sit within the BOCC's authority,

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then at the end of public comment, you provide that kind direction to them,

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so that they could attend either of the commissioners,

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monthly public comment sessions,

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and I just want to echo what you're bringing up is

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And one of the examples of where we've seen confusion occur.

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So, Carol.

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Carol Bireley-Poseck.

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Thank you for your presentation.

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I appreciate the desire to have equity and

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and similarity among all the advisory committees.

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But I would say that Poseck is not like all of the other advisory committees,

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Because Pozac is a statutory committee, it is attached to the tax that we love

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on people to pay for our open space and the idea and it even preceded the parks and open space department.

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The idea is that if we're going to tax people, we should have citizen input on how we spend that money.

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And so I don't think we are just any advisory committee.

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We have this responsibility, and it has money attached to it.

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And so I am distressed by the thought of limiting the public comment on these things because this is a big program.

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It's an important program, and it's using a lot of money that people have paid in their taxes and we should be able to hear their comments.

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And so can you please respond to my assertion that Posec is not like all of the other advisory committees?

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Thank you for that question committee member by early.

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Many of our advisory committees are created through voter approved ballot measures.

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And so there are a lot of similarities in how voter approved ballot measures have moved forward,

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including the formation of those advisory committees.

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So that would be something that we do have a lot of experience with in our boards and committees work.

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And so there are different levels of what advisory committees consider.

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A lot of the ones tied to these voter-provalent measures are there in order to ensure

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And then in a transparent manner. So while you're not similar to planning commission, you are similar to a handful of our other committees and boards that we do here have here at Boulder County.

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Okay, I'm still upset by the limit on public comment.

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I think it's exactly the wrong direction that we should be going in local government these days.

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There's a crisis in government in our country.

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And Boulder County is a progressive community.

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And I, that paragraph that was written,

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if I was chair, I would be embarrassed to read that paragraph.

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And tell people that, yeah, the comments, the comments, no, I'm talking about the paragraph

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that has been provided to us the three paragraph paragraph.

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We will now receive, I think it's bureaucratic, it's not friendly, and I would be embarrassed

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to say it.

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So, I guess you said that we had discretion to control these things, but I, this all feels punitive to me, Natalie.

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It feels punitive, and I don't understand why it's happening.

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Thank you for your feedback, Committee Member Byrly.

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I do want to be really clear on the record, and no way is this punitive.

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We at Boulder County are looking at all different ways to ensure that our county resources and staff time are used efficiently.

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And so we are looking at this in multiple function areas of the county.

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Our budget is greatly impacted.

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Our staff are experiencing layoffs.

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We are looking at operating cuts across the board.

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And in order to ensure that the staffing resources that we have available can meet all the needs of our boards and committees.

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While it's a difficult decision, it is a decision that I as the director of boards and committees stand by.

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So, thank you.

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Thank you, Natalie, before I pass it on, I just want to make a quick comment for the benefit of some of our newer members here.

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Several years ago, our past director, Theresa Loachy, made the comment during a public session that post-accus the voice of the people.

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And so I think as you will find the discussion here, we are asserting that interest in being the voice of the people, Christine.

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Christine Johnson, Posec.

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In your memo, you assert that people who are not able to make comments to Posec can make their comments directly to the BOCC,

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That's two half-hour periods per month, limited to 10 people each, and I feel like what's

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going on with Posec and what's going on with the BOCC is part of a general strategy to

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limit public input and the kind of public input that it receives and it looks like you're

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trying to control public input and the Board of County Commissioners and all staff serve

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the public and like Carol I this feels like an end run around the public and around public

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input and I have to find a concerning. I don't believe that we have had public input since

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we reconvened not once since after our six months off during the search for it

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a new director, and we've only had one opportunity for post-sec members to make comments.

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And I want to point out that we had three strongly worded letters that came in one from

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the former chair of Posec, objecting to what's going on.

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And when, essentially, when public feedback gets shunted to people writing to us through the

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portal, the only way that other members of the public can see that is with a core request.

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If I find correct, and that's another dampening on public discourse, I just want to point

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that we got really extensive letter from Tony Lewis, who was on Posec. I believe for six years was

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chair for two years. We also had comments from Wendy Sweet, former chair of the, I was

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get the acronym wrong, the Boulder Mount Michael Lines, one line from her, I'm concerned that

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POSAC and the public have had almost no opportunity to participate in developing this

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new management approach. Michael Barrow, I hope you have an eliminated the public invited

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to be heard segment of your regular meeting agenda, as this is an important tool for hearing

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what Boulder County residents have to say.

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Moreover, when we heard about the proposed alternate days thing,

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it was a faith accompli, and we did not have, we didn't have feedback into it,

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and then it went on to just be a boondoggle at the County Commissioner meeting,

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and if it had gone through post-SAC first, I think a lot of embarrassment for the commissioners

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would have been saved.

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I'd like to read a few snippets from Tony's letter because, once again, it's private

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because he's not here to speak because he's not allowed to speak.

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A plan to limit how much the public is allowed to say was decided without any input from

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the public or from post-ac.

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This is not scheduling fix.

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It's a bylaws rewrite smuggled in as a memo.

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You don't need a legal opinion to see what's obvious.

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You're overriding what the bylaws already provide for and doing it through a memo instead of an open process with notice in a real chance for post hack and the public to weigh in.

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I'll stop right there.

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Would you like to help me with that?

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I'm happy to grab one after the fact I just not at this exact moment.

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Thank you, committee member.

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In committee member Johnson, thank you for your feedback this evening. I do appreciate it.

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I do just want to provide a slight correction that the two commissioner public comment sections are an hour,

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and then a 90 minute session.

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That's, I read it directly from BOCC website, so maybe that needs to be updated.

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Thank you for letting me know that.

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The county commissioners do publish their e-mails as a trace-baker post-ac. They do publish their e-mails.

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I did e-mail one of the commissioners on a non-post-ac topic, and she did respond.

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So that's not totally a black hole. Jeff?

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Yeah, Jeff Addy Poseck, I guess my question is maybe for the more senior members of the committee here, since I'm kind of new.

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It seems like apologize for that.

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It seems like the impetus for the change is that at least like, you know, what I'm hearing from Natalie is,

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is that there are in previous iterations of POSAC,

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there's been an open public comment period where there's like a lot of commentary

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from members of the public that is not relevant to the business of POSAC,

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and that that is not a good use of kind of resources.

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I'm assuming that they're referring to the staff members,

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the kind of staff members who are here and I know I've heard from other members of the committee

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at our retreat and things that there have been sort of legendary meetings that went to

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midnight or whatever and so I guess I'm wondering like in the view of the more senior members of

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the committee has that been an issue that you're hearing a lot of commentary that is not relevant or

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but I guess like, how big a problem is that in your view?

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Trace Baker, post hack, this is my seventh year on post hack.

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I've been here longer than any of the other members.

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And in general, it's quite rare to have public comment

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outside of our jurisdiction as defined in Natalie's memo.

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you know, when I do hear that through, when I have heard those public comments, it generally has

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been confusion between city open space and county open space, but it doesn't have been very often.

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Sure. Carol, Bireley, pose a. When you're talking about legendary meetings, that would

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up weed control. And the weed control issue, and I'm a public policy walk, and the weed control

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issue was fascinating, because it was turned around by the public. And it was public comment,

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and Post Act was educated in that process, and the county commissioners changed their

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views but it took a year and it involved a lot of public comment and I thought that was

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good public policy and I see that other jurisdictions are catching up with us on our

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weed control thing. So you can't do this in 30 minutes or I think the whole pooling of

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comments is a good idea, because if neighbors think, and we've had others with some of the

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new land that we've got where the neighbors get involved, they can move things while they educate us

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and that takes time. But the pooling is very valuable because if there's someone who's really

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can get into the issues instead of them all repeating the same thing over and over again.

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So I don't think, I mean, a late night is, it's, I've been staff, I know it's hard to be late,

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but then public policy is arduous, and especially when there's an important issue.

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And so, so, and it can come and go, but that's what that's what the legendary thing is.

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And I saw it as really moving, moving policy in a healthy way.

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Thank you, girl.

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Jeff, any more?

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Well, I guess I'll just like play Devils.

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I had to get a little bit on the weed control issue because, I mean, I personally was

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also at, you know, Commissioner Town Hall that got sort of taken over by the weed control issue.

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And so there were other venues for people to show up and make their voices heard.

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I don't know if that's necessarily going to decide my voter or anything, but I thought that was worth pointing out.

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Thank you. Lauren.

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Sure. Lauren Kelso.

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Hi, Natalie. I think what occurred to me as I was reviewing all of this is just that all of this that we're actually talking about tonight.

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The boundaries, the schedules, the by-law references, sort of general himming in of these boards and commissions.

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I actually do feel quite understanding about what staff is up against and what

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are counties up against when it comes to our budget and also just the staff time that

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goes into these things.

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And as Carol said, these things can be incredibly time consuming and complex.

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But my takeaway was that we are missing the point entirely with this topic of 30 minutes

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of public comment or not. I think what we've done so far is the easy part and the hard part

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is figuring out how to facilitate and utilize advisory boards and public engagement processes

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in a way that's meaningful and beneficial and does build like good long-term policy.

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This department faces, you know, her wickedest problems in conservation, in agriculture, in recreation, in forestry, it is, it's what makes this department really important and the work that staff does so important and challenging and they get the, you know, they get to pleasure of face all of these forever while standing on a stage.

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So, you know, we commend you for that, but it doesn't make your jobs any easier to not have the public involved in that process.

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And I think that is what I would like the commissioners to hear through this process, which is that the reason we're having all these conversations is because people don't feel like

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The expert opinions and thoughts and feelings and way things that this program affects people is being sort of taken into consideration in the long term.

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And I think we need better tools around that.

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I think we need to find a productive and meaningful way to have our advisory boards and our public engage in these decisions.

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And so far, I just see frustration around anything that's hard.

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Anything that's hard, everybody just feels frustrated.

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And I think that comes from staff, I think it comes from the commissioners.

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I think it comes from the public and it comes from our advisory board.

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So, I am left feeling like kind of the public comment period can come or go.

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And we need a better system as a community for...

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Acleaning these really hard problems. I think that while staff is highly skilled and incredibly smart and the ones that are responsible for all of these outcomes, you aren't always felt really resource.

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You aren't always receiving all of the information, you probably need to be.

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And the commissioners always have priorities of their own. And that is what these advisory boards are for is to bring a broader scope to your work.

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So I guess all of that is to just say I think there's some really important tools I would

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like staff in the commissioners to consider when it comes to conflict resolution.

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I've seen tools that are really important for big heavy topics because they are going

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to come up forever for this department.

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I think there's some really important that deliberative democracies sort of model that I'm learning

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a lot about right now.

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I think it's really valuable.

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Well, I think there's just a lot of tools out there, and I'm not sure how I'm going to vote on all of this tonight, but right now I just feel like it lacks the complexity that this department deserves to just be talking about like who's going to get to talk for three minutes about what.

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So that's more comment.

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Of course, but I really appreciate the effort and the time you guys are putting in to try to make this all function, because I know it's not an easy time to do it.

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Are you?

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Yeah.

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Hi.

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Are you all about very, very deep?

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Thank you for saying all that.

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Great.

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And then I had a question.

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So if the, if Posec were to not approve this, what is the process?

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How does this come back to us?

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Is this the one and done?

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Is this an iterative process that like, you would come back with incorporating comments that

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have been made here tonight or how does that go?

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Thank you for that question.

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I do not have any additional direction from my board to bring any of this back for their

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reconsideration.

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Should you need that, I'm happy to ask them to watch this part of the meeting so that they

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And here are your comments.

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Directly, I wouldn't want any of that to be summarized

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for their understanding.

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And so from the direction I have for my board,

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it is I'm bringing forward this specific request today.

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And there's no next steps outside of that

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that I am directed to complete.

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Thank you.

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Oh, thank you.

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Anything more from Postsack?

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I'm sorry.

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But I'm, Carol Bireley, pose that.

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Correct me if I'm wrong.

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It sounded like the commissioner said that we can determine how we receive public comment.

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And that it's up to us, how we receive public comment.

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As long as it remains within the 30 minute time frame, aligns with the three minutes per person and no pulling time.

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And it here is to the eight minute end time as referenced in the memo in both in my comments.

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John.

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John White, both that.

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Why no pooling, that that seems to be an efficient use of time instead of a, that just

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seems to be somewhat optimal.

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Thank you for that question, committee member White.

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The reason is that that's a standardization across what are other boards who receive

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general public comment have in place, including the Board of County Commissioners, and that

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only refers to general public comment and does not make changes to your agenda public comment

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on specific decisions of advising the B.O.C.C.

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I have a question.

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Sorry.

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Lauren Kelso, one question that also occurs to me is like we've talked so much about public

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comment and one of the things that was also brought up earlier is just how our written comments

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are handled.

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Do you guys have experience with handling public the written comments processes that I've participated in for like big hard things?

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There's like a process of publishing them of sort of recognizing them of sometimes analyzing them and then providing feedback as a staff is the county.

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Do you guys ever have you considered other ways to handle your written comments, but doesn't just feel like it's going into a box?

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Thank you for the question committee member Kelso. I cannot speak to that on behalf of Parks and Open Space because we I have a specific process for how I handle the BOCCs.

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They're comments. Yes.

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Is it more complex than how we handle it at Parks and Open Space?

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I don't know if I would say it was more complex. I would say it was more responsive.

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it's more it's governed by more statutes and who could address that is that something that like

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Jason or staff could take on to sort of rework how we handle public comments or that have to

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kind of written comments or is that to come from that commissioners or if we wanted to change that

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my understanding is my understanding is that conversation would start with your parks and open space

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Director.

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A very little small trace-baker post-sac, the post-sac does have an agenda item where we

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may bring up anything that we want to that's not on an assigned topic for the night.

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As post-sac members, we can certainly bring up written comments that we see as dead Christine

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talk about Tony Lewis's extensive comment today. So that's possible, but it's still informal

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and there's no process as such. Thank you. Ariel. I follow a question. I guess my earlier question.

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If and said this were to be approved, is this how it's written forever? There's no changing. How would we

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about changing the 30 minute public comment for general public comment in the three minutes

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is would that have to be something that is brought kind of like this was today from the commissioners

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or is that something that we would have the authority to change? Thank you for that question.

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You as public would not have the authority to change that but I do feel that the commissioners are

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trying to be responsive to your asks.

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And so if that would be something you would be interested in,

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I would encourage you all as an advisory committee

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to write a letter to the BOCC so that they can respond

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similarly to how they're trying to respond this evening

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by having me present.

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Thank you.

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I see Jason came up to the front.

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Jason, do you have something

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to add to the discussion so far,

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which are the spot?

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Jason, the Director of Parks and Open Space.

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I was just getting a little closer, you know,

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a little closer to the conversation.

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I appreciate this discussion.

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I appreciate Natalie being here in communicating

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on behalf of the Board of County Commissioners.

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And I really appreciate your perspective

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and the discussion that we're having.

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Is, gosh, we're a lot of people and we work pretty hard in public comment as one area, but we also work with the public.

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So we are in constant communication with the public. People connected all levels of staff. We have a general, just even a general box.

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That general box gets hundreds of comments and submitted to that that we address every single month.

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So the avenues for engagement with the community are greater than bullsack and greater than the board of county commissioners.

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We are the people who are actually working on these issues and connecting constantly with our community.

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So I just wanted to make sure that, you know, these are the only avenues we are in direct conflict.

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That's the way to most directly I think get in touch with us and to be able to address issues that are on the minds of the people and residents of board our county.

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so I just wanted to emphasize that particular point. Thanks.

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Thank you, just Jason.

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Trace Baker, post-sac.

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We're not the only talk because tonight's agenda,

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so to help move things along a little bit.

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May we have a motion to reinstate public comment

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using the structure and language presented by Mr. Springnet?

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Summit.

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Do we have a second?

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second. Is there further discussion from post-sac?

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Okay, we have a vote then all those

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in favor of the motion is stated. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. So it looks like we haven't passed unanimously.

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I'm sorry. I actually did not say. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I don't. Okay. So, but we still have

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I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. So we have one descending

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vote so the motion does pass. So, thank you, Natalie. And thank

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everybody for your comments. And I think if we work to this structure and language and

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get some experience with it, and if it's not satisfied, I mean, it's satisfactory to the public

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or to us. We'll ask the commissioner to revisit it. Okay, thank you. Okay, so next up we have,

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and you can

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probably introduce yourselves before I find the, okay, so the next gender cultural resources management,

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a community centered approach.

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Good evening, post that. Justin Atherton Wood. I'm a supervisor

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of the cultural resources and planning work group. Tonight I have the honor and pleasure

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to introduce my colleague, Elizabeth Reels Brooks, who is our cultural resources specialist.

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I'd also like to introduce Dr. Becky Chavez, a rooted pathways leadership. Dr. Chavez is

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consultant and colleague and she's serving an important role also as a community connector in our

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shared endeavor to work with our local community and to expand the historical narratives

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are department stewards and shares. I'm also grateful to be here with you all today. I appreciate

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your service and your thoughtfulness in the engagement that you pride with us as staff and also with the community so really I appreciate you being here tonight

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So tonight we'll be sharing the important work that my colleagues here have been leading that's elevating our communities

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Latin and Chicano history and connecting that thread to our shared history

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around open space that we steward. I truly love the community center to approach that they're

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taking and the like belonging that they're creating. For folks in our community it's really

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something beautiful to be a part of.

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So to start off I want to begin with this maybe not so

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beautiful picture. This is the so-called barracks. It's an historic building that stands on the

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was taken in 2003 around the time that Parks and Open Space purchased this property.

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The building is just east of Costco and Longmont and right along St. Frank Creek at about

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119th Street. So you can kind of get visual picture of that kind of pastoral, right? Sometimes

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you see horses out there and the quick silver trail runs nearby. So over the years Parks

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is acquired many properties in conditions similar to this one, where the structures haven't

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been well maintained by the previous owners, you know, something typically is happening in

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their family or they're getting older and don't have the energy and interest that they

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ones have. So we, as the new owners and managers, have some decisions about whether or not

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to keep it kind of what level of restoration to potentially provide and also how we might use

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building or other cultural resources in alignment with our mission. So we literally have hundreds

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and hundreds of buildings like this one that we're always asking these questions about.

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So these barracks or last baracas in Spanish are just one example of the wide range of

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culture resources in our care. And as a planner and the department I have the role in helping

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to design and facilitate planning processes to inform decisions like how we're going to take care

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That's right, how are we going to take care of 100 of these and we're going to take care of 500 of these and then also to help communicate how places like

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Las Baracas are connected to our mission and why they're important places to preserve.

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So for many years, the emphasis of our department's cultural resources program has been rooted in compliance based cultural resources practices like historic

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risk or nominations as an example, and in sharing historical narratives that center

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themes like Euro-descendant Settlement, Landownership, Politics, and Industry.

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The document, sorry, the documentation pictured here in a slide concerning Las Baracas

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as an example of these practices, it was the tool that we as staff had at the time that

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we used to elevate the significance of Las Baracas within this paradigm.

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Or here, then the story that has this traditional academic approach. There's something more to surface, right?

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But we just didn't have the skill or awareness to really move toward a different outcome.

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So fast for it about 20 years from 2003 to 2024.

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war, and that's when this photo was taken of Las Baracas.

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A portion of the building was somewhat stabilized, and much of it had been removed from

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the landscape.

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Actually, this is about a third of the structure that was in the previous image.

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But the building actually was starting to stand for something more.

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It was starting to stand for a spirit of connection and belonging that we at Parks had

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a desire to cultivate with the community.

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As expressed through Chris, our cultural responsiveness and inclusion strategic plan.

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And it was about this time that Elisabeth joined our department as a cultural resources specialist.

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And as you'll see, she's brought tremendous skill and will to her work.

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And I honestly am like truly in awe of what she's done in her relatively short tenure.

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So I want to turn it over to her and Dr. Chavez to share their work about this building

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Lasparacas in the land on the creek and what it stands for in our community.

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And I'm just so grateful for the department and the county commissioners supporting the

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direction that we're going to help us understand the value that this building has for us

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00:46:41,470 --> 00:46:42,990
in this landscape, so with that,

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turn it over to you, Elizabeth.

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Thank you, Justin.

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Like Justin said, my name is Elisabeth Rios Brooks,

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and I'm the Cultural Resources Program Coordinator.

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And before I dive into Les Baracas,

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I figured we could all get on the same page

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around what even is a cultural resource.

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So according to the National Preservation Institute,

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it's more than just detangible.

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And what I mean by that is that it's more than just a place

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or an object or a building.

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It also encompasses the landscapes, the practices,

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and the stories and memories of people.

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Historically, when we talked about cultural resources and open space when I arrived, it was very

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much grounded in historic buildings and archaeological sites.

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And those are absolutely important and definitely a part of this work.

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And cultural issues has encompassed more than that.

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They include, like I said, all of these different intangible pieces.

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And so in that, I'm asking us to think about the tangible places and objects in conversation with the intangible because it is the intangible that gives these spaces meaning to all kinds of communities.

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So what I want to talk about here is that we're not replacing traditional preservation, traditional preservation absolutely has a role to play and has for a very long time.

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We're more so expanding it, and what I mean by that is that when I arrived, definitely the

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Parkside Open Space Foundation was around compliance, buildings in archaeological sites,

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00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,360
academic driven research, and established historical narratives.

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And the more I got involved, the more I started thinking about, what does it mean to put

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into practice policy 1.06 on anti-racism?

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What does anti-racism look like in the context of cultural resources?

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And so that led me to sort of thinking about how can we fold in and transform how we have worked on cultural resources historically.

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And so what you see is an adding on.

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So compliance that includes also community knowledge and oral histories as a part of very real evidence.

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Buildings and archaeological sites that also incorporate cultural landscape and lived experiences of the people that were actually there.

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And not just academic driven research, but community-based research and partnerships with the folks

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that have been on this land for a very long time, much longer than before when we just bought

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00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:14,540
the land. And lastly, yes, establish historic narratives. I have thousands and thousands of books on

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European settlement in my office. There are three on Latino history in Boulder County. And long

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actually alone 24% of long my identifies as Latino. And so within that I thought to myself

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how can I have thousands of books about one thing but what about other communities? They

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I know that they were part of open space. I know that they were here in Boulder County. And so

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that got me thinking about how do we tell broader and more inclusive histories on our parks and

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along.

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So when I started working here I realized that there was some what of like a

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disjointing that was happening. There was a siloing of people and stories, places,

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and things, and systems, and support. And what I mean by people and stories is we've

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done a phenomenal job in terms of community engagement, right? There are so many

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incredible programs that we do that support all kinds of folks. And that is one piece. And

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then we are also done an incredible, lots of incredible work when it comes to buildings and

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historic preservation and making sure that so many buildings that are historic and require a lot of effort

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are also kept up and we're talking about hundreds and then lastly those systems and support right

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leadership and then the money behind supporting this work. And so I came up with this graphic where I realized

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wait I think if we all worked together there might be something here around not just inclusion and

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siloing, but making sure that we're also taking that internally. So what I mean by that is if we're

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not able to work together and create an inclusive culture of belonging internally, how can we do

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that externally? When it comes to our cultural resources? And so what you see in the middle is stories,

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stewardship, and structure. I genuinely believe that these three are necessary in order to continue

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well beyond, once I'm out of parks and open space, I think that this is a lens, a system of accountability,

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where we can all support one another in being genuinely inclusive and how we do this work internally

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and therefore externally.

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So that brings me to resilient roots, our Latin-Chicano historic context study.

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And so when I started working at parks, it was like, okay, how do we tell these different stories?

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And my answer was, well, there's only three books written about it.

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What if we just went and asked people?

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And that is sort of where the Latin-inch kind of historic context that he emerged.

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Because it became really clear that there wasn't a lot of archives available that spoke directly to this.

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And so what we ended up doing was deciding that we were going to do some place-based history work,

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some place-based history mapping.

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And instead of deciding, well, I think this building may be important to this community.

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Going to the community and saying, hey, what spaces and places do you feel seen?

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Do you feel heard?

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Do you feel like you belong in unincorporated Boulder County?

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Guided by community voices and grounded in cultural stewardship. So, the insights, memories and perspectives of these folks have been essential to this work and deeply moving and so emotional and so beautiful and I'm so grateful for all of the community members that despite the difficult political moment that we're having especially for Latino community members still have the courage to share their stories.

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And with that, I will pass it to Dr. McKee.

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Hi, I'm Dr. McKee, I was a rooted pathway's leadership and for our approach, we make

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sure to center community participation by meeting people where they are, where they feel safe.

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They are the co-creators of what history is being told and how it is being told.

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We are just going in, taking their stories and leaving, where building relationships, staying

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present and centering trust in our work as much as we can.

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Honorary local history is the heart of this study.

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The Latin and Chicano communities in Northern Colorado

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have been a part of building our communities for generations.

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Yet, their stories have often been left out

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and treated as a footnote to history.

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So many of the people we've interviewed have told us

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I didn't think my story mattered.

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Through this study, their oral histories have lifted those stories

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helping and to include them in the historic narrative of Boulder County. They reminded us that

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we are the legacy of their hard work and resilience. Our small group of community connectors,

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individuals spanning multiple generations serve as our guides, leading us to people to connect

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with sites we didn't know about and sharing their own family histories and stories and experiences.

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We've also approached our tribal research through a new lens, intentionally searching out different perspectives on stories that have already been told.

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Our student research assistants looked at already recognized Boulder County Historic Landmarks to uncover the Latin A history connected to various schools and farms.

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And for a number of these sites, they found history of the Latin A community that wasn't included in the original applications.

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As more people have heard about this project, our relationships have grown into partnerships

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with organizations across the county, the state, and the nation.

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Latinos inherited to conservation, the Carnegie Library for a local history, and the

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Long Mountain Museum are a few that we have worked with.

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And we have uncovered stories about various sites across the county, and Las Baracas is

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our primary example.

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With that, let's go back to Las Baracas.

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And I want to tell you a little bit of the story,

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and a little bit about the people pictured here.

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So Las Baracas is the surviving remnant of a farm worker

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housing complex on what was once the Tanaka family's large

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agricultural operation near Longmont,

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have folks heard of the Tanaka's before.

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The Tanaka's were a Japanese-American farming family

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who expanded their operation after World War II

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and became major producers of vegetable and other crops

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in Boulder and Wild Counties.

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To house the seasonal workforce needed for this operation,

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and we're talking about 500 to 600 people,

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the Farm Use surplus military barracks from World War II,

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converting them into housing for agricultural workers.

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Over the following decades,

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the barracks became home to Mexican and Mexican-American migrant

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and seasonal farm working families

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who worked in the surrounding fields and packing operations.

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But the 1980s, Tonaka Farms had grown into a substantial agricultural enterprise around

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five more than 5,000 acres of land, and then, like I said, five to 600 workers.

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Those workers in the 80s raised concerns about housing and working conditions.

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These conditions became the subject of a federal lawsuit in the late 1980s.

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Families continued living at the site until the early 1990s, when residents and the

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were ultimately displaced in the farm operation was shut down in 1991.

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In 2003, two of the three remaining barracks were removed

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and Boulder County purchased it, but community advocacy

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held preserve one building, the one that you see pictured here today.

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Today, that surviving barrack now in Boulder County open space

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is an important physical connection to the intertwined histories

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00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,700
of Japanese American agriculture, Mexican and Mexican American farm labor,

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migration, housing, and community life in Boulder County. So I would like to share a little

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bit about these pictures on the top right corner. You see me and Becky and Juan and his wife,

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00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:23,360
Juan was a little boy who grew up at Las Barracas. Juan is also pictured on a tricycle in the bottom

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of the bottom picture and we had the privilege of talking not only with him but also his mom.

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On the couch, you'll see Margarita his mom and Juan laying down and that's actually inside

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of Las baracas.

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This type of information cannot be found in archives and the museums and libraries in

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Boulder County.

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That's because they live in Margarita's archive, they live in community archives.

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And what I love so much about these pictures is that they're so personal.

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Excuse me.

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00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:56,340
Carol Barley.

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00:57:56,660 --> 00:57:58,920
What do you mean by Margarita's archives?

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00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,820
Literally, the shoe box under her bed.

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,960
Okay, okay, that's it.

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00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:04,460
No problem.

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00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,240
Thank you for that's a great question.

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And so what I really love about the picture of actually

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Juan Langedown in that red bed is that Margarita tells the story

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00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,600
that this red bed was passed down from sort of apartments

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00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:23,240
apartment within the barrack for different kids to sleep on.

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As kids grew up, it just continued to be passed down.

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And that's a story that we have never heard before, right?

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00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:34,760
It's a glimpse into the lives of what Latino migrants at this time, farm workers, were experiencing.

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Their whole family talks about how they didn't know what they didn't have, that they were happy.

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And I love the picture again of him and the tries to go because they're at a party.

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They're having a party right outside Las Barracas, and you can see the Barracas just in the back.

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And so this is just one story of many that we haven't covered across Boulder County.

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And then the last picture on the bottom left is actually at Cinco de Mayo this year.

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We printed out pictures of Las Barracas and had kids color them in.

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Because there were so many kids and families that lived at Las Barracas.

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It only made sense to include kids today and ask them to reimagine what would it look like now?

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00:59:21,660 --> 00:59:25,220
There are places we drive past every day without a second thought.

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00:59:25,740 --> 00:59:31,540
I drove past Las Baracas, and a number of other Boulder County historic landmark sites, hundreds of times.

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Now, because of the study, I have the stories behind these places.

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We want to make sure that others don't just drive past them without a second thought, either.

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01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,060
Pointing out different places around Las Baracas on a map that we're meaningful to him.

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Later Elizabeth was able to walk through the sites with his parents, Magarita and Manuel, who added to his story.

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Juan, Grujogru, up near Las Barac, in and near Las Baracas, pointed out the small house his family lived in just west of the barracks.

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Where you can still see a pine tree, his dad planted when Juan's brother was born.

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01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,960
He shared a story about Envolzke, a forested area by the St.

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01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,940
Rains Creek where kids would go and fish and play in the water.

655
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:40,360
He took us across the highway when 19 took place where Diktonaka lived, and where there

656
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:41,920
were more barracks to house workers.

657
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:47,220
And he shared his favorite fishing spot on long the creek across from the water treatment plant.

658
01:00:48,860 --> 01:00:54,460
Where the water wasn't so safe, and he now wonders what might have been in it back then.

659
01:00:55,300 --> 01:00:59,100
There were also moments of fear that were a part of history.

660
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,520
As a child, one remembers people dying La Migra, immigration was near.

661
01:01:05,140 --> 01:01:09,820
He'd read and hide what the others, whenever they could find a place near the river, in

662
01:01:09,820 --> 01:01:11,700
a storage shed, in the dumpster.

663
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,440
I have known point for close to 30 years and never knew this part of history.

664
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:23,960
We often forget or were moving too fast to ask people about their experiences and what shape

665
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,100
who they are today.

666
01:01:25,900 --> 01:01:29,280
This study helped me learn more about my friend and his family.

667
01:01:29,780 --> 01:01:32,840
And I can definitely see how his experiences at Las Baracas

668
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,440
prepared him to be a fighter, fire fighter,

669
01:01:36,820 --> 01:01:39,160
serving the community he grew up in.

670
01:01:39,420 --> 01:01:41,760
And from the Archival work in oral histories,

671
01:01:42,380 --> 01:01:44,720
we were able to build a timeline of this history

672
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,040
which Elizabeth will share with you.

673
01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:51,920
So we wanted to make a timeline of what we've compiled.

674
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,040
And the Temacca is actually arrived in 1908.

675
01:01:55,100 --> 01:01:57,020
They didn't really settle in Canfield,

676
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,240
the area until the 1930s and start farming.

677
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,520
But I wanted to point out, we talked about the Temacca's arrival

678
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:04,560
in the 1930s.

679
01:02:04,700 --> 01:02:07,520
We talked about Mexican Mexican American families living

680
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,740
at Las Barracas by 1960, the federal lawsuit in 1988,

681
01:02:12,420 --> 01:02:15,460
the displacement of those families in eviction in 1991.

682
01:02:16,780 --> 01:02:19,020
2003, when Boulder County purchased it.

683
01:02:19,300 --> 01:02:21,480
And then, 2025, when I started working here.

684
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,060
and nominated the site to be an endangered,

685
01:02:24,220 --> 01:02:27,680
a Latinx endangered landmark through Latinos

686
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,620
and historic preservation.

687
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:36,000
And so we received and are now a part of that list.

688
01:02:36,540 --> 01:02:39,600
And that has given us such an incredible platform

689
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,240
on a national scale to shine a light on this space.

690
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:44,260
And what happened?

691
01:02:44,820 --> 01:02:46,300
I got contacted by a lot of reporters

692
01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:48,640
that it's talking about it as much as I could with anyone

693
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:49,920
who'd want to talk about it.

694
01:02:49,980 --> 01:02:50,880
If you ask anyone at work,

695
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,140
and nobody wants to hear about anymore.

696
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,160
And it was really so beautiful seeing on social media,

697
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,020
people would post some of the newspaper articles,

698
01:03:00,220 --> 01:03:02,160
and the comments would say, I grew up there.

699
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,240
I remember going there to visit my grandma.

700
01:03:04,860 --> 01:03:07,580
And it was so dozens and dozens of comments

701
01:03:07,580 --> 01:03:09,820
whether on Instagram or Facebook or other places.

702
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,040
And that's what I realized, whoa,

703
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,620
this is not just a building,

704
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,420
this is something so much more than that.

705
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,900
This is a landing place for a lot of families

706
01:03:19,900 --> 01:03:26,400
who actually stayed here, who continue to create their lives here, who have businesses here in

707
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:33,240
Longma and Boulder County. And it has been such a privilege to learn from them stories that I could

708
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:39,120
learn to know where else. And that's where we are today. We're continuing to do oral histories.

709
01:03:39,340 --> 01:03:43,660
I recently received a grant from the state to do an archaeological study of Las Paracas that

710
01:03:43,660 --> 01:03:48,180
will hopefully take place next year. And we're continuing to do that research and preservation

711
01:03:48,180 --> 01:03:53,660
So that we can make sure that these stories are continued to be told beyond just this.

712
01:03:54,140 --> 01:03:56,720
And the stories have definitely reached a national level.

713
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:01,820
I was at a conference in Chicago last week with Latinos in historic heritage conservation.

714
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,260
And there's a woman in Nevada who they have a barracks on their land.

715
01:04:06,620 --> 01:04:10,500
And we have similar Japanese and Mexican-American connections.

716
01:04:10,580 --> 01:04:12,540
And she's doing the work on her own.

717
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:17,800
And so the woman at LHC was like, oh my goodness.

718
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,340
I need to connect you to the people in Boulder County, because they're doing this work already.

719
01:04:21,580 --> 01:04:23,040
You could be such a wonderful resource.

720
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,340
So this is moving beyond just Boulder County.

721
01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:32,460
It's expanding to places that these stories, again, if you drive, drive around now,

722
01:04:32,460 --> 01:04:34,820
and you will see various kind of a lot of farms.

723
01:04:35,900 --> 01:04:39,540
So it's having an impact in a lot of places that we never even imagined.

724
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:48,240
And I just want to end by seeing sort of what I said in the beginning, which was cultural

725
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,300
resources are not separate from open space. They are part of what makes these landscapes

726
01:04:52,300 --> 01:04:57,900
meaningful. These are the stories, these are the people who I want to make sure we remember

727
01:04:57,900 --> 01:05:05,180
these and we make sure that we share on open space. I have a vision in which everyone feels

728
01:05:05,180 --> 01:05:09,580
welcome and like they belong in our parks and open spaces because we are telling stories that

729
01:05:09,580 --> 01:05:14,200
represent not just one community but multiple. Thank you.

730
01:05:17,770 --> 01:05:20,410
Thank you very much for a very informative

731
01:05:20,410 --> 01:05:24,490
of presentation, these are things that I did not know before.

732
01:05:24,730 --> 01:05:26,050
So I learned a lot, thank you.

733
01:05:26,250 --> 01:05:29,410
Do we have any questions or comments from post-ac?

734
01:05:31,340 --> 01:05:31,780
Lauren.

735
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:32,760
Yeah, Lauren.

736
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,500
So thank you all so much.

737
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,840
What a cool, this is, I've been wanting to hear more

738
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,900
about Las Badacas, because I've seen little snippets of it

739
01:05:40,900 --> 01:05:42,400
as you mentioned in the news and other things.

740
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:48,920
And I am really, I'm sort of inspired to think about in my work.

741
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:51,620
I'm sending out a lot of time thinking about agricultural housing

742
01:05:51,620 --> 01:05:59,120
for the future and I think I'm sort of inspired by what you all are doing here and capturing

743
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:04,980
those stories and what does it tell us for what the future of our open space lands can

744
01:06:04,980 --> 01:06:10,400
mean to families and people who work in agriculture. So I think there's so much to learn

745
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:17,260
here. I think there's I love the storytelling piece of all this. I am curious what's the output

746
01:06:17,260 --> 01:06:23,620
of where do we get to experience these stories and hear more?

747
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:29,680
I really appreciate that question because I love this part of oral history actually.

748
01:06:30,380 --> 01:06:32,180
So we're currently writing a historic context.

749
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,460
Not everyone wants to read a 300 pages story context I get it.

750
01:06:36,620 --> 01:06:41,180
And so actually an immediate output is we're also working with six college students

751
01:06:41,180 --> 01:06:44,520
and they're each creating scenes. Has anyone heard of a scene?

752
01:06:44,980 --> 01:06:50,700
Okay, it's basically like a small magazine that is really easily replicable, that you can drop in different places.

753
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,820
And they've each picked different stories, and I have had two students pick less barrakas.

754
01:06:54,940 --> 01:06:57,460
And they're each following a story in these little booklets.

755
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,540
We're going to drop those off at different libraries, cultural centers, and spaces around Boulder County.

756
01:07:02,540 --> 01:07:05,100
Because, you know, the fact that you can pick something up and just read, huh?

757
01:07:05,140 --> 01:07:09,520
To know about that is really powerful in a way that is really accessible.

758
01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:13,160
And I think beyond that, we're also doing a lot of presentations this fall.

759
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:17,160
This is sort of the first one kicking us off across Boulder County.

760
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:51,700
We'll be at the Museum of Boulder, maybe the Museum of Longline. Again, lots of spaces and places that are eager to hear these stories, and that's what I found from our beautiful community here in Boulder County. People really want to know. They're curious. And some of the comments like I was saying and in those posts were definitely like, I didn't know that was there. I drive past it every single day and I had no idea.

761
01:07:52,420 --> 01:07:58,280
I think a lot of your agricultural community here would be really interested in a lot of this too, so maybe we'll connect afterwards.

762
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:03,940
And I think a part of that too is listening to what the community wants to do with their stories.

763
01:08:04,540 --> 01:08:08,420
So it's not just us saying we're going to do this, but it's listening to them.

764
01:08:08,620 --> 01:08:13,820
And honoring of maybe we just paid last but not because make it beautiful and put a sign.

765
01:08:14,260 --> 01:08:16,120
Simple as simple.

766
01:08:16,700 --> 01:08:17,340
Simple as that.

767
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:18,380
Easy as that.

768
01:08:18,900 --> 01:08:20,340
Or something grander.

769
01:08:20,580 --> 01:08:24,340
But definitely we're not driving that they are going to be driving that.

770
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,560
And there have been many asks.

771
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,640
And I will leave it there.

772
01:08:30,050 --> 01:08:31,010
Thank you.

773
01:08:31,410 --> 01:08:31,430
Christine?

774
01:08:32,150 --> 01:08:33,670
Christine Johnson, post-sac.

775
01:08:34,070 --> 01:08:38,550
I'm going to make two points by telling a story.

776
01:08:39,430 --> 01:08:45,210
My story is that once upon a time was a teacher,

777
01:08:45,690 --> 01:08:50,590
and I was teaching mostly immigrant families.

778
01:08:51,830 --> 01:08:53,010
And in my master's degree,

779
01:08:53,010 --> 01:08:55,830
I had to do a personal family history.

780
01:08:56,010 --> 01:09:04,210
My personal family history has to do with farming in Northeastern, Colorado, and when I went

781
01:09:04,210 --> 01:09:08,910
way back, and I did, this is in Morgan County, which is very close.

782
01:09:09,810 --> 01:09:17,420
When I went way back, one thing that I learned is that Latinos have been in this part of

783
01:09:17,420 --> 01:09:23,560
Colorado for far, far, far longer than most people realize.

784
01:09:24,220 --> 01:09:33,340
So if you look back into the census information in the 1800s, 1880s, 1890s,

785
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,760
there's a lot of Latino farm labor.

786
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:41,880
And I think people need to know that.

787
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:51,180
And the other thing that I will say is that so I was interviewing my mother for this, as well.

788
01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:59,500
So my great, maybe one more great, grandparents immigrated from Scotland and homesteaded in Northeastern Colorado.

789
01:10:00,980 --> 01:10:09,560
And the stories she had to tell me, white families, multiple ethnicities, and, as you mentioned,

790
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:19,400
Japanese families as well, because of internment camps and World War II, everything is really woven together.

791
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:27,360
And I think that's something that people need to know is if you are forgetting about this part of our history,

792
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,200
you're forgetting about part of our shared history.

793
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:42,840
because my mom has told me stories about the migrant worker housing and more in Morgan County.

794
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:49,600
And I have looked up historical documents for that because I was really curious about how it

795
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:57,220
related to the families I was working with. So I really appreciate your presentation tonight.

796
01:11:01,620 --> 01:11:11,240
John White-Poseck. Is there plans to restore us by our house? I don't know if it would

797
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:18,200
conflict with the long-time museum, but make it a place where you go to out to a school

798
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:23,040
house and have somebody showing where it was like to be in a school house 1880.

799
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,220
What I will say is that you're not the first to say that.

800
01:11:27,540 --> 01:11:33,930
And I think it's, I don't know how much we can say, I just say that I'm working with

801
01:11:33,930 --> 01:11:34,390
the state.

802
01:11:34,690 --> 01:11:40,510
And the first step in the process of starting a planning process, a master plan, is to do

803
01:11:40,510 --> 01:11:44,110
this archeological survey, and the state has reached out, and they said, we want to support

804
01:11:44,110 --> 01:11:46,750
this all the way to the end, no matter where it goes.

805
01:11:47,330 --> 01:11:52,630
And so there are definitely lots of different bits and pieces that need to come first.

806
01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:59,910
And, you know, it is, you know, county, county land, and so I don't know, you know, what the rules are.

807
01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:13,550
Well, thank you. Thank you for this. It's just, I've asked for a while about this big hole of Latina, Latino, knowledge in Northeastern County.

808
01:12:13,550 --> 01:12:19,230
the Eastern County and we have all sorts of stuff about trails and mountains and restored

809
01:12:19,230 --> 01:12:27,370
planary stuff and you guys make my heart happy. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'll just

810
01:12:27,370 --> 01:12:38,190
that in answer to your query, Justin, Parks and Open Space, from my view from sort of a planning

811
01:12:38,190 --> 01:12:44,070
perspective, the foundational work that's happening right now will show up as we get into

812
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:50,750
our district level planning and influence, you know, how we're talking about what we're

813
01:12:51,770 --> 01:12:57,650
prioritizing district by district. So as a bigger framework, that's where I see things

814
01:12:57,650 --> 01:13:02,650
starting to intersect to get at the kinds of questions that you're asking. So in other words,

815
01:13:02,650 --> 01:13:07,750
kind of more to come, and also like the foundation that's being like through the historic

816
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:16,090
context, and just the work with community, we'll really launch us into something awesome,

817
01:13:16,110 --> 01:13:23,710
I think, when we get to Las Bracas in our district level planning, when we get to that area.

818
01:13:25,070 --> 01:13:25,490
Carol?

819
01:13:25,490 --> 01:13:25,790
Carol?

820
01:13:25,790 --> 01:13:26,430
Time for one more.

821
01:13:26,490 --> 01:13:26,990
You're certainly.

822
01:13:27,670 --> 01:13:29,110
I'm Carol Byley-Poseck.

823
01:13:29,210 --> 01:13:30,090
I'm a historian.

824
01:13:30,090 --> 01:13:38,430
And so this really warms my heart, and I'm remembering in the 1980s I used to take foreign visitors to Mount Vernon.

825
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:46,230
And they used to talk about hard George Washington grew tobacco, George Washington grew corn, George Washington head cattle.

826
01:13:47,110 --> 01:13:51,970
And I was looking for where the slave quarters were, and they had servants quarters.

827
01:13:51,970 --> 01:13:55,890
And the docents were ladies of Mount Vernon.

828
01:13:55,890 --> 01:13:57,310
They were called the ladies of Mount Vernon.

829
01:13:57,810 --> 01:14:02,190
And there were three little rooms where the servants would be.

830
01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:04,270
And this was just completely wrong.

831
01:14:05,130 --> 01:14:08,210
And now there are, but now the movement,

832
01:14:08,490 --> 01:14:09,350
it's been 40 years.

833
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:12,330
There's been a lot of history of what you've been to.

834
01:14:12,410 --> 01:14:15,810
What you're doing now, you are creating the documentation.

835
01:14:16,290 --> 01:14:20,110
And so they've gone back and they've created barracks

836
01:14:20,110 --> 01:14:46,510
And slave quarters, maybe you know about their project at Mount Vernon, and now there are tours of slave life on Mount Vernon, and that's not just architecture, that is changing the view of our founding fathers, and how the very nature of this country and who built it, and so, and so this has all kinds of layers, and it works my heart as well, so thank you.

837
01:14:48,290 --> 01:14:51,470
Trace Baker Post-Hack Liz with one quick quest.

838
01:15:00,140 --> 01:15:07,820
You use the phrase, Latinx, endangered landmark, is that a state or federal designation?

839
01:15:08,980 --> 01:15:15,340
So, it's a national designation, and it comes from, I'm going to message, Latinos in heritage preservation,

840
01:15:15,380 --> 01:15:28,060
in heritage conservation, which is a national organization that specifically is involved in trying to get more representation on the national register of Latino buildings.

841
01:15:28,060 --> 01:15:37,100
And the reason why, because less than 1% of buildings on the national preservation list, national register, are of people of color.

842
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,140
Okay, thank you very much. Anything else from Postag?

843
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:42,960
Okay.

844
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,040
Oh, John, or Jeff? Sorry.

845
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:50,760
Jeff, I just said one more sort of softball for you.

846
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:59,060
What, what, what, when during the course of your research, what, what surprised you that you

847
01:15:59,060 --> 01:16:05,780
found about the history of Latina, labor, and Colorado, and Brown, they're counting?

848
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:12,640
That they fed us that this is the community that fed Boulder County, and that that's a conversation

849
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:13,820
that needs to be had.

850
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,940
Okay, well thank all three of you very much for your presentation.

851
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:21,060
Thank you.

852
01:16:30,020 --> 01:16:36,720
For a final talk this evening, we'll be an update on the Prairie Rono open space.

853
01:17:17,260 --> 01:17:18,060
Excuse me one second.

854
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:20,560
Okay, great.

855
01:17:21,660 --> 01:17:21,820
Sorry.

856
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:29,120
Hello.

857
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:30,920
My name is Ovidabrod.

858
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,420
I'm a project manager for a full accounting part of the space.

859
01:17:34,540 --> 01:17:36,880
I work in a project management design work group.

860
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,320
And tonight, myself and my co-host, Chair Mary Olson,

861
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:48,200
are going to present and update on the implementation of the East Boulder Creek Management Plan

862
01:17:48,940 --> 01:17:55,480
and the newly created Pre-Runneldom space and just a little status update where we're out with that.

863
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,820
And then we'll take your questions at the end.

864
01:18:02,410 --> 01:18:03,650
Please hear a little bit.

865
01:18:06,150 --> 01:18:07,530
So, look at as an reduction.

866
01:18:07,530 --> 01:18:14,130
And it's fun to let you know that myself, Ovid, I'm Rotten and Mary Olson, are two of the

867
01:18:14,130 --> 01:18:15,190
leads on this project.

868
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:22,050
And it's being completed by an interdisciplinary team at Parks and Oms face of multiple

869
01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:24,070
different work groups.

870
01:18:25,310 --> 01:18:33,090
And we are being assisted by icon engineering, which is a design team of multiple different

871
01:18:33,090 --> 01:18:40,110
consultants and they are helping us to implement the East Board of Creek Management Plan.

872
01:18:41,170 --> 01:18:47,930
And for just a little reference for folks, this slide is a little bit of orientation of where

873
01:18:47,930 --> 01:18:55,730
Prairie Run is. It is in sort of the Eastern County near County Line just kind of north and west

874
01:18:55,730 --> 01:19:03,470
of the town of Eerie, and the property has two different sections to it.

875
01:19:03,850 --> 01:19:10,390
We have it laid on the map, we have called the southwest section on the bottom left and the

876
01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:17,350
north east section up on the right, and Boulder Creek, the eastern flanks of Boulder Creek

877
01:19:17,350 --> 01:19:22,870
and the county run right through the heart of the project and the property, and what we're

878
01:19:22,870 --> 01:19:24,850
part prayer and open space.

879
01:19:28,540 --> 01:19:31,240
And so the kind of a little bit of a background, East Boulder

880
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:40,400
Creek Management Plan was adopted by the Boulder County Commissioners in 2024. And the commissioners

881
01:19:41,980 --> 01:19:50,020
technically approved up to about $7.5 million to implement the management plan at Prairie Run

882
01:19:50,020 --> 01:20:14,680
and has a project management design work group and with with open space management we I've kind of broken the project or implementation of the management plan into four main design and construction projects, which will help us kind of retall the goals of the management plan we feel and we have a phase one and phase two projects.

883
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:40,220
In first one, these projects are trail edge trails and parts amenities and also stream restoration projects for a man now will go into each of these different trail edge amenities for the southwest section, the northeast section and border creek and coal creek will give you a little bit more deep background on what each of those in tail.

884
01:20:41,940 --> 01:20:46,520
But this is a, is it been a project that has a lot of collaboration with the town of Eriks?

885
01:20:46,900 --> 01:20:49,660
We do, but up to the town of Eriam multiple locations.

886
01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:53,660
We've developed one intergovernment agreement with them.

887
01:20:54,460 --> 01:21:00,220
Around trail connections and where there's some work on another one that hopefully

888
01:21:00,220 --> 01:21:06,000
help us figure out how we connect into the town of Eriopen space to the future bird trail,

889
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:12,940
which is a regional trail that's in development, multiple entities in the county, but I think

890
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:19,040
the community planning and permitting department is leading that effort, so that's a future

891
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:25,780
regional trail from Boulder to downtown Boulder to downtown area. Our goals are that we hope

892
01:21:25,780 --> 01:21:35,600
to complete this implementation in about seven years. You can start it in 2024 or so somewhere

893
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:44,920
in 2013, 2013 one time frame and with that yeah I think Mary is going to get into a little

894
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:52,320
bit more about the separate projects that we have going and I'll let her do that.

895
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:59,940
Good evening post that Mary Olson landscape architect with parks. Let me know if you can hear

896
01:21:59,940 --> 01:22:05,820
me. I'll try to get this thing down to my level. So, okay? Okay. All right, I get to talk

897
01:22:05,820 --> 01:22:12,800
about construction, which is pretty fun. The first section that, over that I talked about,

898
01:22:13,220 --> 01:22:19,980
the Southwest section is under construction, and we started work out there last fall. This

899
01:22:19,980 --> 01:22:28,880
is a $1.8 million construction project pretty hefty. Last, and I hope to complete it within

900
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:29,680
in the next couple months.

901
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:37,780
I am both south of Highway 52 and like Obesab that stretches east. In this phase, only two under

902
01:22:37,780 --> 01:22:44,740
19th Street, then in our second phase, we'll be closer to East County Line Road. So the yellow

903
01:22:44,740 --> 01:22:50,820
line is the trail that is fully constructed and then you can see some of our other priorities

904
01:22:50,820 --> 01:22:59,160
on the site. The purple polygons are wetlands or repairing zones that we are trying to take

905
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:05,560
of enhanced and protect. There has been a lot of fencing installed as part of this construction

906
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:14,160
project. We are managing public use with agricultural use so we have grazing on site and other

907
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:21,000
agricultural production on site that we really want to respect and maintain and separate those uses

908
01:23:21,620 --> 01:23:29,140
and a lot of that fencing is also to protect some of that repair and habitat and what then

909
01:23:29,140 --> 01:23:32,960
Is that the, the, the, the dotted yellow line? Is that Fencing?

910
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,160
Thank you. It's the orange line that's Fencing.

911
01:23:37,300 --> 01:23:39,840
The orange line is Fencing. It's not quite, quite, quite inclusive.

912
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:44,480
Inclusive of everything that other, but yes, that's the main Fencing that we've installed.

913
01:23:45,580 --> 01:23:55,080
And then the very thing to yellow dotted line that had south is one of the options that we may consider to connect to bird in the future.

914
01:23:57,860 --> 01:24:04,180
And that, so termination, I think I covered everything that's pretty much on that map.

915
01:24:06,830 --> 01:24:06,830
Okay,

916
01:24:11,940 --> 01:24:19,700
so construction progress, like I said, the soft surface trail is constructed and ready to go.

917
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:24,800
That's mostly recycled asphalt trail, a little bit of pressure finds once we get to the town of Eerie.

918
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,900
The trailhead is complete.

919
01:24:27,480 --> 01:24:32,440
We have a new electric entry gate that will open and close with sunrise and sunset

920
01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:37,040
are hours of operation that the rangers, I think, are very excited about.

921
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,180
Several benches on site.

922
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,840
We do have a new creek access point, that's what those stairs are.

923
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:51,000
They go down to the creek, just north of the trailhead, see a teeny tiny shade structure

924
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,360
with a bench under it, because this tends to be a quite

925
01:24:54,780 --> 01:24:58,200
oppressively hot site with not a lot of shade or refuge.

926
01:24:58,900 --> 01:25:01,480
That's kind of a little bit closer to the ear side.

927
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,620
A couple of pedestrian-aggreg crossing

928
01:25:05,620 --> 01:25:09,320
both one on one-on-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-one-team.

929
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:10,980
That one has a flashing begin.

930
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,200
You'll see in a minute.

931
01:25:14,500 --> 01:25:16,580
And then lots of culverts, some very large ones,

932
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,600
that you'll see in some future pictures here,

933
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:25,240
The remaining items, the big ticket item is the rest room, so we're about 90% through this contract.

934
01:25:25,740 --> 01:25:28,000
But the restroom has not been constructed yet.

935
01:25:28,380 --> 01:25:35,140
The vault has been installed, and we are ready to start that superstructure kind of starting at this week, so that's very exciting.

936
01:25:35,740 --> 01:25:41,340
And then once that's all buttoned up, we'll finish, re-vegetation, re-seeding, when the weather cooperates with us a little bit better.

937
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:46,820
We hope, and install all the signed faces on the poster that have mostly already been installed.

938
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:53,140
So I just have a few more construction pictures for you.

939
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,540
There's some work you can see on the left there.

940
01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:01,040
We put in a 60 inch culvert through the Boulder and Weld ditch.

941
01:26:01,260 --> 01:26:03,520
I had to do some water diversion there.

942
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:05,480
That was last fall.

943
01:26:06,220 --> 01:26:08,680
There's another branch that's actually in some shade.

944
01:26:09,060 --> 01:26:12,100
A lot of concrete work that happened that's on 119.

945
01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:20,480
it's a accessible ramp that links to that flashing beacon crossing and then finally a picture

946
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:22,060
of that electric gate.

947
01:26:26,250 --> 01:26:33,930
There's the fancy flashing beacon, fifth-seeing key-tall, you can see next to that is the

948
01:26:33,930 --> 01:26:39,470
paving machine that the contractor uses to lay down the asphalt, our staff have done similar

949
01:26:39,470 --> 01:26:41,610
work in the past on different sites.

950
01:26:41,610 --> 01:26:45,770
The culvert, I think that's one of the smaller ones, I don't think that's a 60-inch.

951
01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:48,990
That's a 60-inch.

952
01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:55,290
And then finally, you can see the restroom bulbs that's been in for a couple of weeks now.

953
01:26:58,060 --> 01:27:01,740
So, expected outcomes with this construction, obviously the trail.

954
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:07,120
The trail will be open to hiking, biking, equestrian use, and no dogs.

955
01:27:09,820 --> 01:27:15,460
major connection to the town of Eory, great open space access for folks in Eastern Boulder County,

956
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:19,420
which was something that was really missing from our open space portfolios who were really

957
01:27:19,420 --> 01:27:28,100
excited to have. This is a start point, and then Northeast will continue that goal. Lots of

958
01:27:28,100 --> 01:27:36,080
protection of repairing habitat, all of that livestock, and I wrote fencing to continue support

959
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,620
agricultural operations on sites.

960
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,440
So that is where we're at.

961
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,200
We're almost complete.

962
01:27:44,700 --> 01:27:46,400
And that will be over into the public by the end of the year.

963
01:27:46,420 --> 01:27:48,080
That is our goal.

964
01:27:49,380 --> 01:27:50,040
And then.

965
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:50,320
Sorry.

966
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,120
I have a quick question.

967
01:27:51,340 --> 01:27:51,520
Lauren.

968
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:55,240
So do you, what's the agricultural use on those properties?

969
01:27:55,380 --> 01:27:56,260
Primarily live stock.

970
01:27:56,860 --> 01:27:57,280
Primarily.

971
01:27:57,860 --> 01:27:59,060
And some.

972
01:27:59,940 --> 01:28:01,900
There's some alpha being grown.

973
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,080
I'm not sure what other operations in terms of.

974
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,940
Yeah, Bob and I are brought in.

975
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:13,840
It's mainly at Cropland, on the eastern half, east of the Bolero wild ditch, and then it's

976
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:18,690
grazing on the western half, Cropland's mostly feed, it appears.

977
01:28:20,940 --> 01:28:25,960
But the same tenant for almost the whole properties, it's been great to collaborate with

978
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,560
him and our Ag staff on all of that work.

979
01:28:30,510 --> 01:28:37,150
Okay, so sort of next steps, moving beyond the southwest section, is the design of the northeast,

980
01:28:37,970 --> 01:28:46,750
I'm going to say cluster and so the notion of the east section where we'll have a whole host of other amenities along with the Creek Restoration.

981
01:28:47,150 --> 01:28:52,590
So I'm going to talk about sort of the built environment and then ODI will talk about the Creek Restoration.

982
01:28:52,930 --> 01:28:59,270
So we just received 90% designs for this section.

983
01:28:59,270 --> 01:29:05,650
And this section is at the intersection of Penocia and East County Line Road, so North and

984
01:29:05,650 --> 01:29:09,110
East of the South West Cluster.

985
01:29:11,690 --> 01:29:17,110
We are hoping to wrap up that design by the end of the year as well, and then we'll move

986
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:26,310
into permitting and then finding money to build it all the way by 2028 for 930.

987
01:29:26,890 --> 01:29:35,990
So this map in the bottom right of the slide, which I know is a bit hard to read and it's very busy, but all the big fat lines of the proposed trails.

988
01:29:36,550 --> 01:29:45,450
So trails around a lot of former gravel pits that are now ponds and then, of course, older creek runs through the north section of the property.

989
01:29:46,190 --> 01:29:52,490
And then you can see down at the right-hand corner that's the link back into eerie.

990
01:29:52,950 --> 01:29:58,310
So folks can go from here into the eerie trail system and then back to self-worth cluster.

991
01:29:58,810 --> 01:29:59,970
Ultimately, that'll be about five.

992
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:08,340
There are some exciting things coming to this one. We have a nature exploration zone that is proposed to be

993
01:30:08,340 --> 01:30:14,300
right down by the creek. That's that second map at the bottom. It's fully accessible. It has a bunch of

994
01:30:14,300 --> 01:30:25,200
little exploration paths and little hoppable things for kids and adults to play on. We're very excited about that.

995
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:31,920
education outreach staff is thrilled that this is something we can incorporate into our property.

996
01:30:35,100 --> 01:30:40,100
And then we'll have kind of our standard facilities. It'll be a large picnic shelter, a

997
01:30:40,100 --> 01:30:46,520
rest room, kiosk, parking lot, of course, and a fishing peer closer to the trail. The trail

998
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,240
had the trail. It is down here by, you know, she wrote.

999
01:30:55,030 --> 01:30:57,030
All right. And then one, a couple other

1000
01:30:57,030 --> 01:31:03,670
amenities that we're proposing. This is a design for a bird blind. That's up closer to the

1001
01:31:03,670 --> 01:31:10,930
creek a little bit and a very small pond that will not have public use on it. This property

1002
01:31:10,930 --> 01:31:20,130
has pretty special and unique and diverse bird habitat. We are really trying to protect that

1003
01:31:20,130 --> 01:31:25,870
and educate users about that. So this space is going to be the center of that. There's also

1004
01:31:25,870 --> 01:31:27,670
going to be a little bit further from here,

1005
01:31:27,770 --> 01:31:29,190
there'll be a bird spotting scope.

1006
01:31:29,610 --> 01:31:32,010
So folks can see the hernery that's out there

1007
01:31:32,870 --> 01:31:36,950
and other, for the prey that are out there.

1008
01:31:37,230 --> 01:31:43,190
So it is held very dear to the hearts of our wildlife staff.

1009
01:31:44,090 --> 01:31:46,990
And this bird blind should be a, it's a very unique spot

1010
01:31:46,990 --> 01:31:49,950
to see a lot of the action that happens on Kenosha,

1011
01:31:50,270 --> 01:31:53,610
the main pond without, while giving space

1012
01:31:53,610 --> 01:31:56,430
to that very unique habitat.

1013
01:31:59,550 --> 01:32:03,610
I think I already mentioned the fishing pier.

1014
01:32:03,670 --> 01:32:10,990
We have a lot of proposed access points both to Boulder Creek and to the Ponds.

1015
01:32:13,030 --> 01:32:17,350
So we are are going to allow, if some of you remember from the Mansion Plan, we will allow

1016
01:32:17,350 --> 01:32:22,130
pedal boarding and belly-boating, which is really exciting.

1017
01:32:22,450 --> 01:32:24,590
It's not an opportunity we have at very many of our properties.

1018
01:32:28,170 --> 01:32:28,310
Let's see.

1019
01:32:28,670 --> 01:32:34,570
And then I guess the last thing I wanted to say is I think, as Obadiate touched upon,

1020
01:32:36,090 --> 01:32:41,390
both all of these projects have included a lot of internal collaboration.

1021
01:32:41,710 --> 01:32:45,490
We couldn't do this without all of our staff that has contributed to this project.

1022
01:32:46,090 --> 01:32:51,530
field staff that are going to take care of a lot of this stuff or critical to the dialogues

1023
01:32:51,530 --> 01:32:57,250
that we have and then just the unique opportunity this gives staff to educate the public

1024
01:32:57,250 --> 01:33:04,650
and welcome the public in a sort of a new location for Boulder County Open Space.

1025
01:33:05,650 --> 01:33:09,830
So I'll hand it back to Odaia for a quick restoration unless you have questions.

1026
01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:11,130
I have a question.

1027
01:33:11,930 --> 01:33:12,010
Okay.

1028
01:33:12,010 --> 01:33:13,490
This is John Lye of Poseck.

1029
01:33:13,810 --> 01:33:15,170
The Northeast Corp.

1030
01:33:15,250 --> 01:33:16,670
The property is Col Creek.

1031
01:33:17,250 --> 01:33:20,230
Are you going to connect trails to Col Creek Trail?

1032
01:33:20,750 --> 01:33:21,010
Second.

1033
01:33:21,010 --> 01:33:21,110
Second.

1034
01:33:21,190 --> 01:33:22,390
I have to go down through.

1035
01:33:22,470 --> 01:33:23,550
You have to go through.

1036
01:33:23,790 --> 01:33:25,430
You're going to connect to the Col Creek Trail.

1037
01:33:25,650 --> 01:33:25,950
Okay.

1038
01:33:27,270 --> 01:33:28,230
Thank you.

1039
01:33:30,820 --> 01:33:32,060
John, let's pose that.

1040
01:33:33,220 --> 01:33:35,240
I was only way the bottom two.

1041
01:33:35,420 --> 01:33:39,260
The four inches of the bird blind is open to bird view.

1042
01:33:39,260 --> 01:33:47,760
is that to protect it from flooding somewhat or and also whether in the future the ponds,

1043
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,540
the hopper ponds could be something other than rectangular.

1044
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:53,640
Although I'm sure we don't have

1045
01:33:53,640 --> 01:34:02,140
the money. Oh, but I brought in, I couldn't help answer those. So yes, so the burblind and the majority

1046
01:34:02,140 --> 01:34:07,340
of this property and infrastructure we're going to put in it are within the Boulder Creek flood

1047
01:34:07,340 --> 01:34:13,520
way. For not even the floodplain but the floodway and so we've worked extensively with our

1048
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:18,740
community planning and permit and staff and the floodplain program coordinator for the county

1049
01:34:18,740 --> 01:34:24,760
to determine what can and can't go in in the floodway. The original management plan

1050
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:31,800
talked about a picnics shelter right out by the creek but that's not safe or a good idea

1051
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:38,920
I mean, I don't want you need a floodpand regulations as it's a shelter with a roof and we can't be sheltering people in a floodway.

1052
01:34:40,300 --> 01:34:46,140
So the, so the bear blind is more like a fence that doesn't have a roof.

1053
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:51,500
Most people probably use to bear blinds that, you know, you're fully hidden and you're just looking through a little crack.

1054
01:34:52,100 --> 01:35:00,280
This one's going to be something different and we did a little research with our, our origin education style and our landscape architects that we've hired and Mary

1055
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:05,420
And our building staff and this is going to be open on the bottom.

1056
01:35:05,980 --> 01:35:08,640
So a bit more open in the middle and have that upper area.

1057
01:35:09,180 --> 01:35:12,220
So flood waters can pass through the bottom of it.

1058
01:35:12,260 --> 01:35:17,060
If they come up and it's not really a shelter where you're taking refuge, I guess,

1059
01:35:17,340 --> 01:35:18,940
so it's allowable in a flood way.

1060
01:35:20,300 --> 01:35:22,040
And so yeah, I think that answers that question.

1061
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:24,360
And then what was it to say?

1062
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,640
Well, you know, with the rectangular shape of the ponds

1063
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,400
and whether, you know, in the future there could be some

1064
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:36,120
grading so that it wouldn't be just like, you know, cut down like a

1065
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:39,980
tape. We all hope it's so that that be a variety of my

1066
01:35:39,980 --> 01:35:46,680
plans and into it. Yeah, sorry. We looked into it and number

1067
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:51,120
things won't mean the water where it's laws and Colorado or

1068
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,880
kind of the main, but just for not doing that. Right now, they're

1069
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,680
just abandoned gravel ponds and they don't really have any

1070
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:04,900
descriptive water rights to them and we've been informed by, you know, by the water

1071
01:36:04,900 --> 01:36:09,920
rights attorneys and our water rights staff or water staff that, you know, expanding that

1072
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:16,840
footprint or changing it could potentially open the county up for just inquiries or even

1073
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:23,380
lawsuits, potentially from downstream water rights owners and users that we've maybe impacted

1074
01:36:23,380 --> 01:36:28,900
there water rights by changing the surface area of those pond where they may have smaller or

1075
01:36:28,900 --> 01:36:34,600
made them bigger. So we could do that, but it would open up potentially canterworms. It might not

1076
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:41,300
even be a problem, but it was decided by the older actor Trees Glocky to not foresee that at this time.

1077
01:36:41,580 --> 01:36:46,640
What if you didn't change the surface area on the sauna, but you just changed the configuration

1078
01:36:49,430 --> 01:36:55,470
even, yeah, that, again, it kind of just opens up potential for more inquiries in the future

1079
01:36:55,470 --> 01:37:02,410
and, you know, had a cost of accounting potentially so right now we're going to go with it as they are, but there are,

1080
01:37:02,450 --> 01:37:08,370
and there's a lot of staff that's interested in potentially changing the configurations, opening some of those walls,

1081
01:37:08,670 --> 01:37:13,150
maybe doing more wildlife habitat improvements in there and things like that, because they're,

1082
01:37:13,150 --> 01:37:16,590
some of the sterile shape right now. I mean, they're kind of bathtubs.

1083
01:37:17,190 --> 01:37:22,730
We are and we already have started planting around the pond, so perhaps that will...

1084
01:37:22,730 --> 01:37:27,470
Good. So often they're in a little bit, but yeah, that's something that we...

1085
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:35,000
This plan, but staff has already started to do and will continue doing to do prior to implementation.

1086
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:37,240
Thank you.

1087
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:37,560
Lord?

1088
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:44,600
I just have a quick question. I'm Lauren Kelso. I'm curious about the electric gate thing. Is that a new thing?

1089
01:37:44,900 --> 01:37:49,200
And really, I'm curious that if you park in there and you get stuck, you'll be able to get out.

1090
01:37:49,340 --> 01:37:49,480
You'll be able to get out.

1091
01:37:49,480 --> 01:37:49,820
You'll be able to get out.

1092
01:37:49,820 --> 01:37:50,140
You'll be able to get out. You'll be able to get out.

1093
01:37:50,380 --> 01:37:50,700
You'll be able to get out. You'll be able to get out.

1094
01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:53,180
You'll be able to get out. You'll be able to get out.

1095
01:37:53,180 --> 01:37:55,980
Not that I would, after hours.

1096
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,300
Yeah, so Trace Baker Post Act and it's the power fails.

1097
01:38:03,420 --> 01:38:06,060
Well, we get to call our candidate and he rangers.

1098
01:38:06,820 --> 01:38:07,340
Exactly.

1099
01:38:07,340 --> 01:38:09,720
We'll have that phone number right on the gates.

1100
01:38:11,580 --> 01:38:12,860
That is the plan.

1101
01:38:14,530 --> 01:38:14,830
Thank you.

1102
01:38:15,030 --> 01:38:20,250
But yes, it is a new, this is a test pilot, so we'll see how it goes.

1103
01:38:21,990 --> 01:38:27,930
Christine Johnson Post Act, I am appreciating the update and

1104
01:38:29,870 --> 01:38:33,390
recalling some of the agonizing things that we

1105
01:38:33,390 --> 01:38:38,570
agonized over and I'm looking at you, Carol, like I'm happy that

1106
01:38:38,570 --> 01:38:46,210
there's not going to be dogs there and I'm happy that you are talking to us

1107
01:38:46,210 --> 01:38:53,290
about benches and shade because those are the things that came up and I'm

1108
01:38:53,290 --> 01:39:02,410
that you're talking about protection of riparian habitat. And I did wonder, is the bird

1109
01:39:02,970 --> 01:39:07,810
blind? I suppose the answer is going to be yes. Is that going to provide sufficient

1110
01:39:07,810 --> 01:39:23,270
buffering between the birds and the people? Because the distances were a critical issue in the

1111
01:39:24,970 --> 01:39:29,110
So if you can, I remember all those circles, but not perfectly.

1112
01:39:30,010 --> 01:39:37,850
Yes. So it is, it was, um, our wildlife staff is comfortable with it. I'll say that.

1113
01:39:38,070 --> 01:39:44,130
They had a lot of input on it. And there's a teeny, tiny pond that sort of separates the

1114
01:39:44,130 --> 01:39:51,170
birdblind area, then the pond, then the connocia habitat. So they really felt that that distance

1115
01:39:51,170 --> 01:39:59,670
was adequate. Can you indicate on that map where the blind is? Do you see my marker right there

1116
01:39:59,670 --> 01:40:04,930
by the North Pond? Yeah, and it's to look at, looking into the North Pond, so it would

1117
01:40:04,930 --> 01:40:13,030
be facing to the South East Pond, surrounded by trees, and between the North Pond and the

1118
01:40:13,030 --> 01:40:21,150
Kenosha Pond, which is a big one. I was thinking on the other, it's on the other side of

1119
01:40:21,150 --> 01:40:23,030
There's also that there were the rookery.

1120
01:40:23,310 --> 01:40:25,010
Yeah, so that's where the rookery is.

1121
01:40:25,170 --> 01:40:27,830
And then Obadiya can point to where we will have the birdings

1122
01:40:27,830 --> 01:40:32,250
spotting scope, and that is quite a ways away from anything

1123
01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:34,570
on the north side of the creek.

1124
01:40:34,790 --> 01:40:37,250
My person is where the spotting scope is, and it's mainly

1125
01:40:37,250 --> 01:40:40,670
oriented to the northeast to look at the rookery.

1126
01:40:40,810 --> 01:40:42,950
And you're the great view of it right where it's going to go.

1127
01:40:42,950 --> 01:40:43,790
And you're still here?

1128
01:40:44,110 --> 01:40:44,850
There's still there.

1129
01:40:45,190 --> 01:40:45,790
Yeah, yeah.

1130
01:40:45,790 --> 01:40:47,190
Well, while you're doing the construction.

1131
01:40:48,090 --> 01:40:52,530
I also hope they're still laying out after, that's the plan.

1132
01:40:53,990 --> 01:41:00,970
And just, we had, for folks who were new to post-ac, we had a whole, did we have two

1133
01:41:00,970 --> 01:41:09,610
site visits there, and it was quite involved in those ponds, the question about the ponds,

1134
01:41:10,330 --> 01:41:16,030
we asked about the ponds, the last thing that I will say is I really, really appreciate

1135
01:41:16,030 --> 01:41:25,470
the effort towards accessibility to be trying to include all members of our community in their

1136
01:41:25,470 --> 01:41:28,490
access to open space.

1137
01:41:29,370 --> 01:41:30,450
Sorry, thank you.

1138
01:41:30,490 --> 01:41:31,270
Thank you.

1139
01:41:31,450 --> 01:41:33,870
Any more questions, comments from Post-Hack?

1140
01:41:36,190 --> 01:41:40,550
Well, I'm really looking forward to the completion of this, and I'm so happy that East County

1141
01:41:40,550 --> 01:41:47,550
also get some decent sized open space, and I can't wait to write my back out there.

1142
01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:49,510
Let me do.

1143
01:41:49,830 --> 01:41:51,390
I know what I saw as more things, right?

1144
01:41:51,570 --> 01:41:53,010
Yep, a little bit more to go if you want to.

1145
01:41:53,450 --> 01:41:54,010
Okay, sorry.

1146
01:41:54,090 --> 01:41:54,570
Oh, means.

1147
01:41:54,970 --> 01:41:55,810
Yeah, yeah.

1148
01:41:56,770 --> 01:42:01,530
So as Mary said, all right, but who would one of us set it, but this we have four different

1149
01:42:01,530 --> 01:42:10,530
projects that we've ever developed being to kind of come this whole implementation of the

1150
01:42:10,530 --> 01:42:15,610
projects. And so I'll speak a little bit about those. I'm going to have to answer any questions

1151
01:42:15,610 --> 01:42:22,270
afterwards as well. So Boulder Creek is our first stream that we're doing some stream

1152
01:42:22,270 --> 01:42:30,730
restoration. And it's pretty interesting if the bottom map here, Mary pointed out all the trails

1153
01:42:30,730 --> 01:42:36,570
and everything around the lake and those bonds and the infrastructure. But a long board of

1154
01:42:36,570 --> 01:42:43,970
If you can kind of, we are going to do some restoration along here to complete kind of,

1155
01:42:43,970 --> 01:42:49,550
it's going to be, we're going to go ahead and kind of hand in hand.

1156
01:42:50,490 --> 01:42:54,950
Some of the work will restore and size Boulder Creek in this area.

1157
01:42:56,230 --> 01:43:02,130
And all of the hopes to minimize excessive erosion and allow for episodic erosion to

1158
01:43:02,130 --> 01:43:08,410
channel complexity and more habitat development in the area. This also allows to increase

1159
01:43:08,410 --> 01:43:12,210
fun playing connection during frequent STEM of storm events.

1160
01:43:14,590 --> 01:43:16,030
And this work will also protect

1161
01:43:16,030 --> 01:43:22,050
the future trail and recreational amenities that we're developing in the area. And it'll also

1162
01:43:22,050 --> 01:43:27,890
we're tying in, as Mary mentioned, a couple more creek access points. So all in all have three

1163
01:43:27,890 --> 01:43:33,150
designated areas to access the creek right now. The banks are extremely vertical in place.

1164
01:43:33,150 --> 01:43:39,470
and we'll save some of that because that is good habitat for a lot of different bird species

1165
01:43:39,470 --> 01:43:47,350
and other types of animals, but we're also providing access points for to get down the

1166
01:43:47,350 --> 01:43:54,370
creek with steps and little access trails, designated two of them to the east of the main nature

1167
01:43:54,370 --> 01:44:00,790
discovery zone which will have the accessible access. These plans are in design phase right now.

1168
01:44:00,790 --> 01:44:07,970
We later next month, we expect to get the 90% designs and help to finish design by the end of

1169
01:44:07,970 --> 01:44:16,470
2026 and commence permitting at 2027 in conjunction with the permitting for the Northeast

1170
01:44:16,470 --> 01:44:17,490
cluster amenities.

1171
01:44:18,190 --> 01:44:26,210
We have about a year or so of permitting to do on those from Float Plane permitting with FEMA to

1172
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:33,580
sort of like Army Corps engineer permitting while life endangered species, Chippo, historic

1173
01:44:33,580 --> 01:44:38,780
preservation, stuff like that. So we've got about a year worth of permitting and we do hope

1174
01:44:38,780 --> 01:44:46,080
to regore it now. It's just to maybe start construction in 2028 but that kind of depends on

1175
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:57,520
funding funding and permitting and funding we are looking into grant funding and we have staff

1176
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,600
go-co, or fly for some go-co grants.

1177
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:10,440
Some grants. We are also in this area talking about collaboration with the Mahai flood district who funds a lot of

1178
01:45:10,440 --> 01:45:19,460
stream improvement projects. So there are a partner just down upstream of this on the how ditch project. You may have heard of that project before.

1179
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:29,220
It's not constructed yet, but there's a potential and we're working to collaborate with them. And that would be a memorandum of understanding and idea to do that.

1180
01:45:29,220 --> 01:45:35,620
So moving forward on that, that's our kind of our schedule.

1181
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:39,000
I guess it touched on some of this.

1182
01:45:39,700 --> 01:45:43,500
The project hopes to provide sustainable pre-design,

1183
01:45:43,820 --> 01:45:45,800
preserve the high quality habitat we do have,

1184
01:45:45,860 --> 01:45:50,840
and increase aquatic habitat and activity along this reach of pre-creak.

1185
01:45:52,630 --> 01:45:57,350
Next, I'll talk about the coal creek, which I look better maps.

1186
01:45:58,090 --> 01:46:07,450
Cole Creek's administration is another design project, and it's currently in design and we're about at a 60% design level.

1187
01:46:07,630 --> 01:46:16,990
Coming again in the middle of the early September with the hopes of completing the final design that after the beginning of the year, maybe in February of 2027.

1188
01:46:16,990 --> 01:46:20,310
And this is a little bit longer lead item projects.

1189
01:46:20,810 --> 01:46:25,010
It's not tied into the infrastructure and the new trail ahead and trails.

1190
01:46:26,010 --> 01:46:28,530
So we end with them we need funding for this as well.

1191
01:46:28,890 --> 01:46:33,890
So we're looking at permitting in 27 and 28 and possibly funding.

1192
01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:38,470
Possibly construction as soon as 2029, but it's a big ask.

1193
01:46:38,930 --> 01:46:42,910
So we've got goals, we're ambitious, we'll see where we can get some of that stuff.

1194
01:46:42,910 --> 01:46:51,250
I mean, Cole Creek, if you can see on my map, it's a fairly, it's a turner and a little

1195
01:46:51,250 --> 01:46:51,510
funky.

1196
01:46:51,550 --> 01:46:52,390
That's not north.

1197
01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:54,070
Yeah, it's not right.

1198
01:46:54,510 --> 01:47:00,610
So the bot that big road right there, that's county line road, you know, Boulder Creek

1199
01:47:00,610 --> 01:47:02,270
coming in.

1200
01:47:02,350 --> 01:47:06,350
So right behind that all that word, and verbiage is where the trail had, and everything

1201
01:47:06,350 --> 01:47:10,230
where there's point now, it's going to be, so that's Boulder Creek down to the confluence

1202
01:47:10,230 --> 01:47:18,170
of Coal Creek and Boulder Creek and then on the far left is Kenosha Road so we're talking

1203
01:47:18,170 --> 01:47:22,850
some stream restoration and not whole stretch from Kenosha Road which is beginning to

1204
01:47:22,850 --> 01:47:31,750
counting on space to the confluence with Boulder Creek. Again this would be to restore deep

1205
01:47:31,750 --> 01:47:36,630
land size and highly erotable Creek Coal Creek is very highly erotable. See some of these

1206
01:47:36,630 --> 01:47:43,210
cut bank photos here, where hope is to do a little more flip-length and activity again.

1207
01:47:44,550 --> 01:47:49,430
And, sorry, Obeday, Lauren Kelso, before you could move off of that side, what causes

1208
01:47:49,430 --> 01:47:55,450
that kind of, why does it, what causes that, what do you do to address it, what do you

1209
01:47:55,450 --> 01:47:56,690
do to address it?

1210
01:47:56,770 --> 01:47:57,630
That's very question.

1211
01:47:57,630 --> 01:47:59,790
So, number factors,

1212
01:48:02,470 --> 01:48:11,150
this is probably mostly caused by high rates of water and over the years

1213
01:48:11,150 --> 01:48:16,250
the creek has been channelized in a sense by the uses around it.

1214
01:48:16,430 --> 01:48:20,010
We have agricultural fields that cut right up to the edge of it on one side.

1215
01:48:20,090 --> 01:48:27,230
We had gravel mining historically on the west side, like Kenosha pond, so we developed

1216
01:48:27,230 --> 01:48:34,930
all that they, you know, the developers pushed in the creek, channelized it, they did the same

1217
01:48:34,930 --> 01:48:39,390
with Boulder Creek. So they've kind of, you know, so I've had in that natural swing

1218
01:48:39,390 --> 01:48:45,390
loss that you see in a lot of the plains, creeks that are flowing left and right over

1219
01:48:45,390 --> 01:48:51,730
large areas, these this creek has been channelized. So let me do get big rain events. It

1220
01:48:51,730 --> 01:49:01,250
not be where to go but kind of down. So our hope is we can and it's a design is going to be

1221
01:49:01,250 --> 01:49:09,930
able to say where we have a section like this, not picture right there. We may be raising up the

1222
01:49:09,930 --> 01:49:14,610
channel beds over the length of the whole river while actually raising the channel up a couple of

1223
01:49:14,610 --> 01:49:21,810
feet by taking sediment off, say some of these banks, or we'll be benching the outside and opening

1224
01:49:21,810 --> 01:49:27,730
up more bench on the inside. So when the creek does flow at higher rates, it has a place to

1225
01:49:27,730 --> 01:49:34,330
spread out and not just in size and continue to go deeper. And in this area it's hard to see where

1226
01:49:34,330 --> 01:49:39,730
there's some big octopus that have pushed into that agricultural field at the county owns and

1227
01:49:39,730 --> 01:49:43,970
leases to folks and some of that field is falling in the

1228
01:49:43,970 --> 01:49:46,910
creek at a rate of like a foot of year in places.

1229
01:49:47,930 --> 01:49:56,190
So our goal is to slow down or hopefully stop that erosion in some of these places.

1230
01:49:57,630 --> 01:50:03,850
John Lutz-Poseric and isn't part of the problem that there's been development around this area

1231
01:50:03,850 --> 01:50:08,730
and that means more hard-paving more roads, more driveways, more hard rooftops,

1232
01:50:08,730 --> 01:50:16,670
And it comes off all of a sudden, and so it's more likely to incise itself to dig a deep

1233
01:50:16,670 --> 01:50:25,630
channel, whereas historically it would soak into the ground and slowly slowly flow down

1234
01:50:25,630 --> 01:50:26,250
the streams.

1235
01:50:28,070 --> 01:50:33,370
So, I guess, you know, things like retention and detention and, you know, storm gardens

1236
01:50:33,370 --> 01:50:38,790
and so on are all helpful things to slow that process down.

1237
01:50:39,350 --> 01:50:40,330
For sure.

1238
01:50:40,910 --> 01:50:46,770
And this is downstream of the town of Erie and there's been quite a bit of development

1239
01:50:46,770 --> 01:50:48,650
last 30 years in the town of Erie.

1240
01:50:49,250 --> 01:50:53,210
So, yep, and there are the upstream of our project town of Erie's working on a

1241
01:50:53,210 --> 01:50:58,350
really big flood control and water conveyance project that they hope to kick off

1242
01:50:58,350 --> 01:50:59,350
the next couple of years.

1243
01:50:59,810 --> 01:51:01,870
So, we're kind of tying into the end of that.

1244
01:51:01,870 --> 01:51:07,770
So hopefully the coal preclaw have a lot more room to move, even with all the urbanization.

1245
01:51:07,930 --> 01:51:10,090
That's occurring on the eastern flank of the county.

1246
01:51:10,690 --> 01:51:12,090
It's a great point to

1247
01:51:16,190 --> 01:51:16,190
me.

1248
01:51:16,270 --> 01:51:17,910
Any other questions on that last slide?

1249
01:51:19,230 --> 01:51:25,950
These are just a couple of different photos of the one on the top right is, you can actually

1250
01:51:25,950 --> 01:51:28,430
this is named in Herial of Coal Creek, currently.

1251
01:51:28,430 --> 01:51:36,690
That big oxpo I was talking about in the high field is right here, and this is basically

1252
01:51:36,690 --> 01:51:42,570
off like our Google imagery for the county that shows one point that was the map corridor

1253
01:51:42,570 --> 01:51:47,590
of the creek is the blue line, you can just see in the last number of years how it's migrated

1254
01:51:48,230 --> 01:51:57,070
to the right in some places, and it's moving, you know, it's not going to look for

1255
01:51:57,070 --> 01:52:01,750
the right. And then I'll order one of some of the tiny techniques that we could use that will

1256
01:52:01,750 --> 01:52:09,110
be constructed, you know, ripple pests in the creek, that can be somewhat armored to

1257
01:52:09,110 --> 01:52:13,990
help protect the work that we do, but then provide like fish passage and habitat.

1258
01:52:30,050 --> 01:52:55,170
And then this is just a picture from another similar project we've worked on before, where those are, um, that's actually a bank stabilization by engineering technique, um, where there's those are, those are called soil lifts, and that plan of a native plants, and typically have some sort of rock argument underneath them to help protect the bank, but then have vegetation, and I'm that will provide more habitat, natural components of the tree.

1259
01:52:58,310 --> 01:53:17,990
And that's about it, you know, just saying this boulder, you know, east boulder creek management plan and prayer and open space, you know, the, the, the plan came out with six major goals and, you know, our teams are working hard to, we think that the plan that we have will basically encapsulate all six of these goals.

1260
01:53:17,990 --> 01:53:20,990
I'm going to put them out there for you if you're interested in

1261
01:53:22,870 --> 01:53:24,510
having any questions about that.

1262
01:53:24,710 --> 01:53:27,050
We can definitely answer those right now.

1263
01:53:27,190 --> 01:53:28,110
I'll be here as long as you want.

1264
01:53:32,790 --> 01:53:35,470
Jason needs to speak, so we won't be here all night long.

1265
01:53:35,610 --> 01:53:36,430
Got to guess that question.

1266
01:53:36,810 --> 01:53:38,390
Anything more for post-ac.

1267
01:53:39,290 --> 01:53:40,230
Thank you.

1268
01:53:40,330 --> 01:53:40,510
Okay.

1269
01:53:41,030 --> 01:53:42,750
Obedaya and Mary, thank you very much.

1270
01:53:43,250 --> 01:53:43,470
Thank you.

1271
01:53:45,310 --> 01:53:49,070
Next item on the next topic on the agenda is

1272
01:53:53,110 --> 01:54:03,870
about topics that were not on the agenda tonight, and we have a few and remind everybody that we'd like to hear from Jason before eight o'clock.

1273
01:54:05,590 --> 01:54:05,830
So, Joan.

1274
01:54:06,390 --> 01:54:15,330
Joan, let's pose, and I guess in comments on the Tucker property, I walked out there last week and I was pretty shocked to see all the unauthorized trails,

1275
01:54:15,330 --> 01:54:22,630
including many that were paralleling other unauthorized trails, and it was hard to figure out

1276
01:54:22,630 --> 01:54:25,190
where the trail was because there were so many trails.

1277
01:54:27,570 --> 01:54:31,250
But besides the orchids mentioned in the August 18th memo,

1278
01:54:31,510 --> 01:54:33,510
I saw two other species in the forest,

1279
01:54:34,090 --> 01:54:40,650
good year of Longopolia, and also the Clustered Lady Slipper orchid,

1280
01:54:40,930 --> 01:54:43,470
and it's got a really cool flower,

1281
01:54:43,470 --> 01:54:48,510
And it is at least rare or at least unusual.

1282
01:54:49,970 --> 01:54:54,490
It was on a steep slope with rich soil and easily eroded

1283
01:54:54,490 --> 01:54:57,210
as so much of the area is.

1284
01:54:57,770 --> 01:55:02,090
And someone had built a site trail right next to the two orchids

1285
01:55:02,090 --> 01:55:06,530
undermining the rich soil that was supporting the orchids.

1286
01:55:07,370 --> 01:55:12,370
So, I'm glad that the commissioners voted to close almost all trails

1287
01:55:13,470 --> 01:55:39,190
temporarily while district planning is occurring before more damage occurs to the ecosystems and that there was talk about closing the trail from March to November and also putting in clear signage and other visible measures such as logs placed across the unauthorized trail network.

1288
01:55:40,170 --> 01:55:49,810
Understanding, of course, if this would require more money for more range or patrolling as well as signage and work to close other unauthorized trails.

1289
01:55:50,470 --> 01:55:56,370
Perhaps county lead warriors or wildlands, restoration volunteers could help with trail closure work.

1290
01:55:56,370 --> 01:56:05,530
I once worked with WRB, and they were working with a mountain by group to close unauthorized

1291
01:56:05,530 --> 01:56:11,430
trails in a different natural area, so that's another possibility.

1292
01:56:13,690 --> 01:56:18,530
And also regarding design, you know, when you have people just making their own unauthorized

1293
01:56:18,530 --> 01:56:22,610
trail, they're not following design standards.

1294
01:56:22,610 --> 01:56:31,630
So, honestly, with the exception of the wide road base, these trails are really not suitable for multi-use.

1295
01:56:32,210 --> 01:56:36,350
There are steven twisty in the forested area, and not built to standard.

1296
01:56:37,050 --> 01:56:38,750
And there's often little like distance.

1297
01:56:39,810 --> 01:56:46,910
So, at different times, I had six different bikers pass me all at high speed, because they're going down downhill.

1298
01:56:46,930 --> 01:56:48,890
They're going west to east.

1299
01:56:48,890 --> 01:56:54,770
And I had a jump into the forest each time to avoid being hit.

1300
01:56:55,330 --> 01:57:00,750
So ultimately, because they couldn't see me, you know, I had to listen for them.

1301
01:57:01,270 --> 01:57:06,730
So ultimately, a trail built to standards for slopes and sight distances,

1302
01:57:07,510 --> 01:57:13,970
and turning the radio would be great if it's decided there should be a permanent trail at the Tucker facility.

1303
01:57:16,190 --> 01:57:18,970
John White-Poseck.

1304
01:57:21,010 --> 01:57:31,430
The county commissioners' presentation surprised me about the Tucker property is that our

1305
01:57:31,430 --> 01:57:37,830
bylaws, the Poseck, provides a forum for public input regarding land acquisition

1306
01:57:37,830 --> 01:57:40,930
dispositions for management plans and policies.

1307
01:57:41,770 --> 01:57:50,470
I was really surprised that Jason and the county commissioners went out there and looked around

1308
01:57:50,470 --> 01:57:57,670
that are talking about management plans. Why wasn't post-ack and included in any of this?

1309
01:57:59,710 --> 01:58:06,010
We could have gone along. We could have gotten some. When you listen to commissioners'

1310
01:58:06,010 --> 01:58:12,290
Stalsman, she'd been talking to bike mountain bikers who are talking about they'd

1311
01:58:12,290 --> 01:58:21,970
love to help to sign the right type of path and close off, help close off the volunteers

1312
01:58:21,970 --> 01:58:23,370
with them.

1313
01:58:23,410 --> 01:58:24,210
I'm not surprised, you're right.

1314
01:58:24,210 --> 01:58:25,450
I'm not surprised, you're right.

1315
01:58:26,290 --> 01:58:32,610
This just seems to be something that should have gone through pose act first, instead

1316
01:58:32,610 --> 01:58:34,830
of directly to the county commissioners.

1317
01:58:34,830 --> 01:58:38,470
And is Pozac being sideline?

1318
01:58:40,030 --> 01:58:41,530
Yes, that's towards Jason.

1319
01:58:47,180 --> 01:58:51,060
Perhaps Jason can address that during the director's update.

1320
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:55,460
Well, I would, Carol, by early Pozac.

1321
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:58,900
I would just, I would support what John was saying,

1322
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:03,580
and I think it has to do with the multi-use issue as well.

1323
01:59:03,860 --> 01:59:05,660
And that's two issues this year.

1324
01:59:05,660 --> 01:59:14,740
And I did, I'm going to go back to Natalie's memo because I compared the two versions that she wrote and she,

1325
01:59:14,900 --> 01:59:23,640
we are, we are advisory on open space land acquisitions and then she added and dispositions.

1326
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:35,820
And so, disposition, I think speaks to these two issues, and I think it also speaks to our pivoting from purchasing someone's land to stewardship over the land.

1327
01:59:36,220 --> 01:59:43,640
And that puts Posec in a position to really help consider how do we protect what we have.

1328
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:53,040
And so I would say those two issues would come under the and dispositions responsibilities that Posec has.

1329
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:20,000
Here, hearing as well, and was, and I think, well, why didn't we get to go there and see what the problem is, because it's a big problem. And the commissioners don't know what to do. I mean, who knows what to do. So, we should be able to help, or at least absorb some of the stress. Thank you.

1330
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:20,820
Thank you, Carol.

1331
02:00:21,580 --> 02:00:23,260
Anybody else pose a Christine?

1332
02:00:23,740 --> 02:00:25,620
Christine Johnson, pose a.

1333
02:00:25,620 --> 02:00:30,740
I wanted to note that Dr. Tim Seastett and Dr. Robert

1334
02:00:30,740 --> 02:00:35,180
Brackenrich had a review paper published June 4th,

1335
02:00:35,340 --> 02:00:42,600
2026, issue of restoration ecology, a period-reviewed journal,

1336
02:00:42,940 --> 02:00:47,760
and it was looking at all the available research

1337
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:55,780
on cheat graphs and in dazzleflam in the Colorado front range, there's over 70 citations

1338
02:00:55,780 --> 02:00:58,640
for the paper, so I think it's pretty comprehensive.

1339
02:01:00,380 --> 02:01:11,400
A few findings from that, one thing that they were looking at was toxicity of in dazzleflam

1340
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:22,180
and its degradation and their mutagenicity, which was discussed in there, they also address

1341
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:30,440
chief grass and contribution to extreme wildfire, which they didn't find a link in Colorado.

1342
02:01:31,500 --> 02:01:40,440
And I just I think it's and they also addressed conflicts of interest in existing research.

1343
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:52,820
So, good stuff to have out there and to have all that research collected in one place to just go through.

1344
02:01:53,700 --> 02:02:01,300
And I just wanted to say, I really appreciate all of you on Posec, especially tonight.

1345
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:02,620
Thank you.

1346
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:05,940
Any other questions or comments from Posec?

1347
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:12,080
Okay, thank you, so let's move on to the director's update, Jason Suk.

1348
02:02:36,380 --> 02:02:37,640
Hi, good evening, Jason Suk.

1349
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:39,360
Director of Parks and Open Space.

1350
02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:43,000
I just want to thank everybody for tonight, the conversation.

1351
02:02:43,140 --> 02:02:51,560
I think the insight and discussion on, you know, the role of Post Act, the, you know,

1352
02:02:51,580 --> 02:02:57,320
how we communicate with the public, the importance of open space and the work that our team does,

1353
02:02:57,320 --> 02:03:12,800
as well as, you know, the rest of the one county government is, you know, fascinating and kind of at the center of what we're trying to do in local government. So I appreciate that open dialogue. I appreciate your perspective and what you're doing.

1354
02:03:14,740 --> 02:03:25,160
Let's see, I think there's a lot going on. This is an exciting time. We're kind of wrapping up, you know, that summer season, although it's like 100 degrees every single day. So I don't know about that.

1355
02:03:25,780 --> 02:03:29,420
but I really enjoyed, I think last week we had our seasonal picnic

1356
02:03:29,420 --> 02:03:34,220
to say thank you for the, you know, I guess over 100 seasonal workers

1357
02:03:34,220 --> 02:03:37,020
that we have, many of the continued working,

1358
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:40,840
but you know, just out there doing a lot of work, you know,

1359
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:44,860
while they can, on, on everything from museums and trails

1360
02:03:44,860 --> 02:03:49,260
and the sort yard to, you know, conservation easements.

1361
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:51,780
I mean, just everything we do, we have seasonals

1362
02:03:51,780 --> 02:03:53,240
and they're, you know, about half our workforce

1363
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:55,560
and doing incredible things.

1364
02:03:58,180 --> 02:04:07,360
We also were quite lucky to have the work, the Youth Corps, also wrap up, an amazing

1365
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:07,960
season.

1366
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:14,500
We had 12 teams, five from Parks and Open Space, five different municipalities, sponsored

1367
02:04:14,500 --> 02:04:22,080
teams, two down profits, and that was a total of over 100 core members, 27 team leads

1368
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:28,660
and staff, and together, you know, it was over 19,000 hours of work time, over 3,000 feet

1369
02:04:28,660 --> 02:04:37,700
of fence bill, 13,000 feet of fence road are repaired, 1,700 trees maintained, 100 rolling

1370
02:04:37,700 --> 02:04:43,000
dips and trails built, and that's just a few of the things, a lot, and I think probably most

1371
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:49,820
important was, you know, just kind of seeing youth and leadership in action, you know, what I

1372
02:04:49,820 --> 02:04:56,680
hope is maybe, maybe too sappy, but providing, you know, instaling, you know, this, this spirit

1373
02:04:56,680 --> 02:05:02,160
of public service and really cool to see just talented people working hard and learning

1374
02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:06,180
a lot and doing it in service of their community in a pretty cool place.

1375
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:10,820
We also had the fair, Boulder County Fair, my goodness.

1376
02:05:11,820 --> 02:05:17,040
We're still doing the numbers, but it definitely was over a hundred thousand visitors, demolition

1377
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:24,920
There will be carnivals, rodeos, 4-H, just incredible time.

1378
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:31,380
So much work goes into it from all the partners that we have at the Fairboard as well

1379
02:05:31,380 --> 02:05:37,580
as well as a lot of staff time and effort that kind of all focuses on that one event over

1380
02:05:37,580 --> 02:05:37,960
the week.

1381
02:05:38,120 --> 02:05:45,080
So that's pretty great and we're pleased to have another piece that I wanted to touch on.

1382
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:56,160
It was the August 4th, Janna Peterson presented to the Board of kind of commissioners on budget

1383
02:05:56,160 --> 02:06:02,200
reduction recommendations, a piece of that is as things that we've been considering in

1384
02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:08,800
the general fund to try to address the structural deficit, many of that touching programs

1385
02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:13,680
and even people that were integral to parks an open space.

1386
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:19,600
But we think we have a path forward to try to recommend

1387
02:06:19,600 --> 02:06:24,640
and put forward pieces that can help address that deficit

1388
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:28,060
and retain as much of the critical services

1389
02:06:28,060 --> 02:06:29,400
as we can provide.

1390
02:06:30,300 --> 02:06:33,780
And continuing moving forward on a fiscal,

1391
02:06:33,780 --> 02:06:43,760
sustainable path, but I did want to mention that. Tucker, you know, John, I agree completely

1392
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:49,800
with your assessment and I really appreciate the way that you put it. And, you know, the

1393
02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:55,540
orchids and the many other species, there's so much that's out there, it's a real jewel. And,

1394
02:06:56,360 --> 02:07:00,700
you know, from the wildlife values to kind of a lot of historical values as well as, obviously,

1395
02:07:00,700 --> 02:07:06,940
recreation it's an interesting one to try to balance and so yes we had a

1396
02:07:06,940 --> 02:07:13,140
work session I guess about a week and a half ago where we discussed and brought

1397
02:07:13,140 --> 02:07:20,920
forward at the commissioners request a plan to recommend a solution to try to

1398
02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:22,160
feedback and have that discussion.

1399
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:59,200
And so, this is where, you know, we are really focused kind of the backdrop to this is this district planning model that we've talked about a few times here, and specifically the first section of that, which is going to be what we're calling peak to peak, it's kind of that southwest chunk of Boulder County, including Netherlands and other areas nearby, where we're going to try to wrap up a lot of management actions into one, think about things which I'm really excited about at a landscape level.

1400
02:07:59,200 --> 02:08:04,100
So we can think about things like connectivity, you know, how do we balance these different

1401
02:08:04,100 --> 02:08:09,920
right values, from resource values, to recreation values, to, you know, you know, specific

1402
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:14,100
species in wildlife and all the other things that we're taking into account the less

1403
02:08:14,100 --> 02:08:14,960
agriculture there.

1404
02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:19,960
But that's a, you know, a piece of cultural preservation, many things, and thinking about

1405
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:27,300
it in a big picture so that we don't have to have, you know, each parcel, you know, balancing

1406
02:08:27,300 --> 02:08:41,720
everything. How can we do that at a broader scale? And so we're really focused on that. We're excited. I think in a number of days for, you know, I think even the RFP will go out for consultants for that.

1407
02:08:41,740 --> 02:08:56,740
We're moving forward on that process and looking for it's going to be a long and complicated one. And it's one that we're really excited to, you know,

1408
02:08:56,740 --> 02:09:04,440
focus on your expertise, on your connection to community, and in your good perspective, how do

1409
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:08,200
we think about this really important management plan moving forward?

1410
02:09:08,760 --> 02:09:16,720
So Tucker, I guess the way we're thinking about that from a legal perspective from an operational

1411
02:09:16,720 --> 02:09:21,660
perspective is what we're asking the commissioners to do is temporarily designate a trail,

1412
02:09:21,660 --> 02:09:24,180
which they are authorized to do.

1413
02:09:24,980 --> 02:09:26,720
Are they only ones I think they can do that?

1414
02:09:27,300 --> 02:09:30,140
I have the authority to be able to close pieces.

1415
02:09:30,380 --> 02:09:34,540
I took that authority when we had a goss hawk nest

1416
02:09:34,540 --> 02:09:38,480
that we identified at the Western Southwestern bit

1417
02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:39,760
of that property complex.

1418
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:42,320
And we close that to protect that species.

1419
02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:46,080
So those authorities, I have trail designation

1420
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:48,340
is one that the Board of County Commissioners have.

1421
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:51,400
The management plan in pieces, moving forward,

1422
02:09:51,400 --> 02:10:00,800
And that's the really complicated part, and the piece that we, you know, are excited to move forward on and deeply involve all of you.

1423
02:10:01,700 --> 02:10:11,660
And the common regarding disposition, I think, disposition is actually generally the conveyance of a real property interest.

1424
02:10:11,660 --> 02:10:19,760
So, I think trying to, yeah, I guess this is more of a legal question, but a little less

1425
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:23,640
on the closure of trails, that's something that I can do, and in my authority, I can

1426
02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:30,240
close trails, I can close pieces of open space for public safety, for natural resource protection,

1427
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:31,540
a few other reasons.

1428
02:10:33,380 --> 02:10:37,420
We're soon taking that action on metal, large single tree area.

1429
02:10:37,420 --> 02:10:44,720
There's cattle there, and there's a couple months, but that provides a risk, that's an action that I'm able to take.

1430
02:10:45,100 --> 02:10:48,180
It's not a property disposition, so just wanted to make that clarification.

1431
02:10:48,440 --> 02:10:52,920
We get more better legal language if we need it, but that's the difference there.

1432
02:10:53,820 --> 02:11:02,290
And then back to a few things in our world that I wanted to touch on agriculture.

1433
02:11:04,030 --> 02:11:05,450
There's a lot going on there.

1434
02:11:07,350 --> 02:11:12,130
We've got drought response. We've got water management issues. There's daily tasks that our

1435
02:11:12,130 --> 02:11:19,010
water and ditch teams are dealing with. They've done just a tremendous job working on what's

1436
02:11:19,010 --> 02:11:24,430
a challenging situation. We talked about that last month. That work continues. The piece

1437
02:11:24,430 --> 02:11:29,810
that we didn't dive in too much and are all the actions that they take every day. Just thinking

1438
02:11:29,810 --> 02:11:34,790
about, hey, how do we better manage water? How do we better service the tenants and

1439
02:11:34,790 --> 02:11:39,970
these holders that we have, how do we think, picture today and then moving forward on what's

1440
02:11:39,970 --> 02:11:46,310
going to be continued water issues when we think about climate change and the overall uses.

1441
02:11:47,910 --> 02:11:49,550
And so it's big.

1442
02:11:49,730 --> 02:11:50,310
It's on our mind.

1443
02:11:50,510 --> 02:11:55,530
The fact that ditch water, in some cases, has gone already and in others, we've got maybe

1444
02:11:55,530 --> 02:12:00,950
a couple days left and so it's a big factor in something that we continue to work with

1445
02:12:02,750 --> 02:12:08,270
with, you know, the different commissions with ditch boards and in our tenants.

1446
02:12:11,290 --> 02:12:16,170
We, just today, I actually signed and closed the swag property.

1447
02:12:17,250 --> 02:12:20,170
So that is, some of that's been process I think for 20 years.

1448
02:12:21,690 --> 02:12:27,390
And, you know, a great piece of property from an agricultural hand actually, I think,

1449
02:12:27,390 --> 02:12:30,570
a wildlife and natural resource perspective, as well.

1450
02:12:32,190 --> 02:12:32,830
Yeah,

1451
02:12:35,230 --> 02:12:38,390
the shout to our rangers, just again to notice them.

1452
02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:40,950
They're taking calls on emergencies throughout the county.

1453
02:12:41,450 --> 02:12:43,710
These days, the heat-related emergencies are huge.

1454
02:12:44,430 --> 02:12:47,730
Small fires are happening that we're helping respond to.

1455
02:12:47,730 --> 02:12:49,570
And a very active bear season.

1456
02:12:49,990 --> 02:12:52,790
There have been bears and tents, bears and cars.

1457
02:12:55,150 --> 02:12:55,850
Yeah, difficult.

1458
02:12:55,850 --> 02:13:02,970
difficult and I won't even go into snakes that's something I'm attached to. We had the national

1459
02:13:02,970 --> 02:13:08,170
night out so hundreds of community members we were interacting with in different events in

1460
02:13:08,170 --> 02:13:15,310
NYWAD and Superior Alliance on Lasero many of the places, more as Rangers, you know, talks,

1461
02:13:16,370 --> 02:13:20,890
you know we're blessed to have that connection to the community and to be able to, you know,

1462
02:13:20,890 --> 02:13:23,330
talk and exchange there.

1463
02:13:24,290 --> 02:13:28,270
Yeah, the plan of college team has been doing a ton of work.

1464
02:13:28,350 --> 02:13:32,870
I won't go into details, but on their important piece, and I think we've got a presentation

1465
02:13:32,870 --> 02:13:34,510
Tito for you there soon.

1466
02:13:36,550 --> 02:13:38,730
Wildlife, elk management is a big one.

1467
02:13:38,970 --> 02:13:43,210
We started to prepare and coordinate the red hill, red hill, elk hunt, access for the

1468
02:13:43,210 --> 02:13:49,030
2026 season, including hunter scheduling and property access controls, we're leading design

1469
02:13:49,030 --> 02:13:52,210
and compliance work for major fish passage reconstruction projects.

1470
02:13:52,590 --> 02:13:54,570
We'll be talked about a little bit a little bit of that here,

1471
02:13:55,150 --> 02:13:57,310
but we've got a lot there going on.

1472
02:13:57,310 --> 02:14:01,070
On AVN program, we've got raptor data system upgrades,

1473
02:14:01,830 --> 02:14:04,430
improving nesting season closures and GIS integration

1474
02:14:04,430 --> 02:14:05,550
for raptor monitoring.

1475
02:14:06,250 --> 02:14:08,550
I think due to schedules, I think we're going to come

1476
02:14:08,550 --> 02:14:10,410
and talk to you in depth about raptors,

1477
02:14:10,490 --> 02:14:11,610
I think, perhaps a October.

1478
02:14:13,430 --> 02:14:16,490
Education, I was able to go to the,

1479
02:14:16,490 --> 02:14:22,470
on Tanya Kuma Familia event at Calwood, a month ago as a highest turnout ever, it's a fantastic

1480
02:14:22,470 --> 02:14:28,630
event that brings out Spanish-speaking Boulder County community members, it's multi-agency, many

1481
02:14:28,630 --> 02:14:34,310
NGOs are involved and Calwood just does a fantastic job reaching out to our Latina community

1482
02:14:34,310 --> 02:14:41,380
and it's a great event that can provide additional access to the outdoors and again it's

1483
02:14:41,380 --> 02:14:48,720
that love them outdoors with our entire community. And then we've also been doing a weekend

1484
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:53,600
trail head pop-ups with an emphasis on sharing the trail and don't spark a disaster messaging.

1485
02:15:00,020 --> 02:15:13,700
We're talking about, let's not start fires and let's think about how we share the trail in a way that is not the incidents that you're speaking of, but rather being conscientious from all users.

1486
02:15:13,700 --> 02:15:23,860
And then also we partnered with our CSU Extension staff to hold a land management for climate and drought preparedness workshop at the AG Heritage Center.

1487
02:15:24,880 --> 02:15:33,700
You know, it's a great team with extension and they do a lot not just on agricultural practices, but on water management as well.

1488
02:15:36,280 --> 02:15:41,300
Yeah, we've got a lot of trail repairs, I don't know if anyone's been to in you lightly, but it's great.

1489
02:15:41,880 --> 02:15:45,660
They've done a tremendous job with continuing step in retaining wall repairs.

1490
02:15:47,940 --> 02:15:55,920
And we've been able to install a lot of new signs and bilingual signs that are pretty much all across the county.

1491
02:15:56,240 --> 02:16:02,680
Now, we've done a tremendous job in that element of communication and happy with that.

1492
02:16:02,680 --> 02:16:09,920
And then looking forward, we've got, we've got Costa coming up in early October, good question.

1493
02:16:10,020 --> 02:16:11,900
Thank you, Carol, for the reminder.

1494
02:16:13,300 --> 02:16:17,680
We'd love to extend an invitation to you while we can coordinate on who might be available.

1495
02:16:18,600 --> 02:16:26,520
And we'd be happy to try to make that happen from our size in terms of subsidy or support for that.

1496
02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:32,200
So we can circle back on that and, you know, who's interested and who's available and try to coordinate

1497
02:16:33,060 --> 02:16:35,300
Co. So which is a three day

1498
02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:37,700
Colorado open space

1499
02:16:37,700 --> 02:16:45,120
Association conference for open space with different agencies and entities around around the state

1500
02:16:49,000 --> 02:16:53,620
Yeah, I think I'll stop there for now and

1501
02:16:54,360 --> 02:16:58,440
Again, I just wanted to say thanks to our staff for great presentations today

1502
02:16:58,940 --> 02:17:01,140
We're also brainstorming on good field trips.

1503
02:17:01,380 --> 02:17:02,780
We take your recommendations too.

1504
02:17:03,180 --> 02:17:08,120
We need to get out there and see a few things in, you know, out in the field.

1505
02:17:08,720 --> 02:17:11,580
And we look forward to engaging there.

1506
02:17:13,570 --> 02:17:14,190
Thanks so much.

1507
02:17:14,410 --> 02:17:14,950
Thank you, Jason.

1508
02:17:15,170 --> 02:17:15,910
Any questions?

1509
02:17:16,210 --> 02:17:16,650
Oh, John.

1510
02:17:18,210 --> 02:17:19,470
Thank you for the comment.

1511
02:17:19,630 --> 02:17:21,110
I've had a field trips.

1512
02:17:22,170 --> 02:17:24,050
This is John and he's also with the record team.

1513
02:17:24,230 --> 02:17:25,970
If he could please speak out directly to the microphone.

1514
02:17:26,330 --> 02:17:27,690
We appreciate it.

1515
02:17:28,050 --> 02:17:29,310
You think I'd go by now?

1516
02:17:29,310 --> 02:17:37,750
John White-Poseck. Thank you for your comment about the field trips. It's not just a perk.

1517
02:17:38,150 --> 02:17:42,750
It's something you find out amazing things that you're the part I'm just doing.

1518
02:17:45,810 --> 02:17:52,690
Plaining, we stored wood for building things. Things that we would never know about, but it's really valuable for it.

1519
02:17:54,170 --> 02:17:59,750
but you didn't answer the question about how come we didn't get fight into the tougher property.

1520
02:18:02,010 --> 02:18:06,130
So what is trying to communicate is it's not a management plan that we're designing.

1521
02:18:06,310 --> 02:18:07,870
The management plan is the peak to peak.

1522
02:18:08,690 --> 02:18:12,910
So this was a recommendation to the Board of County Commissioners to designate.

1523
02:18:13,890 --> 02:18:17,850
We'll call it temporarily just until the management plan is up.

1524
02:18:17,850 --> 02:18:28,090
to designated trails so that we can direct use, hopefully direct use on any area, that would

1525
02:18:28,090 --> 02:18:29,090
be acceptable to us.

1526
02:18:29,270 --> 02:18:29,650
It's temporary.

1527
02:18:29,910 --> 02:18:37,230
It's not going to have appropriate or it's not going to be the same level of trail that we

1528
02:18:37,230 --> 02:18:42,550
would see in the future once the management plan is approved, but we want to direct that

1529
02:18:42,550 --> 02:18:47,490
so that we can, you know, better channel folks there, understand, you know, the recreation

1530
02:18:48,450 --> 02:18:55,250
desire and use and then protect the wildlife that's there. So currently the property upon acquisition

1531
02:18:55,250 --> 02:19:05,070
was open. Disney does this open kind of during that COVID era, but in order to try to manage

1532
02:19:05,070 --> 02:19:10,990
some of these undesignate trails that are bumping up, you know, that we thought that that was the best

1533
02:19:10,990 --> 02:19:13,370
and that the board may designate a trail.

1534
02:19:13,970 --> 02:19:16,150
So our management plan is, you know,

1535
02:19:16,290 --> 02:19:19,250
that detailed process that we do look forward to

1536
02:19:19,250 --> 02:19:22,290
and then we'll entail kind of all the different,

1537
02:19:22,290 --> 02:19:23,750
you know, pieces that we're going to consider

1538
02:19:23,750 --> 02:19:25,790
and work very deeply with the community.

1539
02:19:26,270 --> 02:19:30,670
But to tackle the issue that Joan was describing,

1540
02:19:31,730 --> 02:19:33,790
you know, we have to manage the property

1541
02:19:33,790 --> 02:19:37,970
and the interim in this period in between management plan

1542
02:19:37,970 --> 02:19:41,970
and essentially acquisition of different parcels.

1543
02:19:42,810 --> 02:19:44,870
So that's where we are now.

1544
02:19:45,090 --> 02:19:47,930
So most properties we would typically close upon acquisition,

1545
02:19:48,090 --> 02:19:51,510
this one was unique, but that's, for example,

1546
02:19:51,590 --> 02:19:54,190
an action that is not, that's an action

1547
02:19:54,190 --> 02:19:55,450
that the department takes.

1548
02:19:57,260 --> 02:19:57,740
Christine?

1549
02:19:58,440 --> 02:20:04,580
Christine Johnson-Posak, piggybacking on both of those.

1550
02:20:04,820 --> 02:20:07,740
I'm wondering, and maybe I will literally

1551
02:20:07,740 --> 02:20:15,620
regret this. If it would be useful for us to have a driving tour of the mountain region,

1552
02:20:16,160 --> 02:20:22,740
or that region that is going to be in the first management plan. I like pictures all in a

1553
02:20:22,740 --> 02:20:28,880
van with our nose is pressed to the windows and someone yelling things out as we go. But better

1554
02:20:28,880 --> 02:20:36,220
than that. That sounds amazing. I'd love it. I'd love it. That's amazing. And then we can stop the

1555
02:20:36,220 --> 02:20:43,560
on occasion and check out to this place is I think that's great with with that area kind of on

1556
02:20:43,560 --> 02:20:49,240
the horizon to better understand it together and better showcase the kind of different properties

1557
02:20:49,240 --> 02:20:55,600
and the different things that are out there. Fantastic. Trace Baker, Potec and I certainly

1558
02:20:55,600 --> 02:21:04,060
would support Christine's suggestion too. Lauren? Yeah, Lauren Kelso. I just going back to your

1559
02:21:04,060 --> 02:21:08,920
about budget stuff that you guys are working through. What's the timeline? What's the

1560
02:21:08,920 --> 02:21:12,720
sort of, I'm sure I can find this online, so if you could just help me out though, how

1561
02:21:12,720 --> 02:21:17,940
when do you guys have to make, I saw the August 4th meeting, when do you guys have to sort of respond

1562
02:21:17,940 --> 02:21:24,040
to those, like, those requests? How is your timeline for making all those decisions? Is that all just

1563
02:21:24,040 --> 02:21:32,300
for the 20, 27 budget and, like, in that cycle? Yes. So you guys have a second. I don't give you

1564
02:21:35,920 --> 02:21:37,060
these dates pull them.

1565
02:21:37,220 --> 02:21:37,420
Totally.

1566
02:21:39,120 --> 02:21:46,080
So, on September 15th, I believe there will be an elected offices, they'll have a budget

1567
02:21:46,080 --> 02:21:50,800
hearing and discussion, a budget of a work session, although they'll be discussing and presenting

1568
02:21:50,800 --> 02:21:56,320
you know, their side, the last one was just for departments under the County Administrator

1569
02:21:56,320 --> 02:22:07,060
like us. I think on October or when the late October there will be a public hearing on the budget

1570
02:22:07,060 --> 02:22:12,080
and that will be an open one with common involved and I think that's around the time we're

1571
02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:59,000
Well, we'll need to be put in place. So that's the general schedule and in interaction. And so, you know, there's kind of internal processes in between there. And, you know, just trying to tee up, you know, some of the internal budget discussions for the future, but the big touch points are those. So I think, yeah, late mid October is the public hearing for the budget. That's the big one.

1572
02:23:01,960 --> 02:23:06,460
And yeah, September 15th, kind of the similar exercise would be elected offices.

1573
02:23:08,320 --> 02:23:08,800
Thank you.

1574
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:10,320
Any thing we're adjacent?

1575
02:23:12,200 --> 02:23:15,420
Well, thank you, Jason, then we are adjourned.

1576
02:23:15,600 --> 02:23:16,140
Thank you.