1 00:00:02,408 --> 00:00:05,987 Basery committee meeting. We've reached our start time. These meetings 2 00:00:05,987 --> 00:00:09,107 are held in a virtual hybrid format via zoom webinar. 3 00:00:09,107 --> 00:00:11,416 I'm going to start the webinar now. To allow those 4 00:00:11,456 --> 00:00:16,512 who are attending online to join remotely. Please note that 5 00:00:17,253 --> 00:00:19,472 typically takes about 30 seconds for zoom to bring members 6 00:00:19,512 --> 00:00:23,837 of the public into this meeting. And a friendly reminder 7 00:00:23,938 --> 00:00:27,117 to all POSSAC members presenters and public speakers, please make 8 00:00:27,117 --> 00:00:30,557 sure you're within two inches of the microphone when speaking. 9 00:00:30,557 --> 00:00:33,987 This helps ensure we maintain an accurate public record. Members 10 00:00:34,808 --> 00:00:38,078 of the committee. Are you ready. We are ready. Thank 11 00:00:38,118 --> 00:00:47,754 you, Nick. Okay. Good evening everybody and welcome to 12 00:00:47,935 --> 00:00:52,154 the September 24th, 2026 meeting of the Boulder County Parks 13 00:00:52,194 --> 00:00:56,074 in Open Space Advisory Committee. I'm Trace Baker, chair for 14 00:00:56,095 --> 00:01:02,992 this session. We'll start with Roll Call. Trace Baker Present, 15 00:01:02,992 --> 00:01:10,272 Ariel Barbieri game is excused. Carol Byarley. Present Christine Johnson. 16 00:01:10,758 --> 00:01:18,577 Here. Lauren Kelso here. Vicki Lawrence. Present. Joan Lutz. Jeff 17 00:01:18,758 --> 00:01:25,262 Font. Pierre and John White here. Okay, thank you for 18 00:01:25,283 --> 00:01:31,694 the first topic. We will have staff present on the 19 00:01:31,715 --> 00:01:39,214 Sunshine fire protection district Eastment for a cistern for fighting 20 00:01:39,315 --> 00:01:45,054 fires. And this is a topic on which we will 21 00:01:45,094 --> 00:01:50,254 have to advise the County Commissioners. And therefore we will 22 00:01:50,294 --> 00:01:57,948 be accepting public comment. After the speaker and after POSAC 23 00:01:57,988 --> 00:02:04,522 discusses. So all years. Great. Hi everyone. I haven't been 24 00:02:04,522 --> 00:02:06,682 here for a while. So the new faces. My name 25 00:02:06,682 --> 00:02:09,082 is Aaron Clark. I'm a land officer with Parks and 26 00:02:09,122 --> 00:02:12,602 Open Space. And my job is to handle property rights 27 00:02:12,703 --> 00:02:15,162 and real estate stuff for the parks. So here's one 28 00:02:15,202 --> 00:02:18,842 of those items here to talk about Sunshine Fire Protection 29 00:02:18,882 --> 00:02:22,682 District Requests for an easement on the bald mountain open 30 00:02:22,783 --> 00:02:29,330 space property to place a firefighting cistern. Just bare bones. 31 00:02:29,330 --> 00:02:33,010 Sunshine fire protection does firework up in Sunshine Canyon in 32 00:02:33,010 --> 00:02:35,570 the Foothills directly above Boulder. Uh, they are in a 33 00:02:35,570 --> 00:02:39,330 project right now to install cisterns at importanttions in their 34 00:02:39,370 --> 00:02:42,690 service area. Uh, there's no hydrants up there. So you've 35 00:02:42,730 --> 00:02:46,130 got to get water from somewhere. Uh, so water's hard 36 00:02:46,130 --> 00:02:48,530 to come by when a fire begins. The idea is 37 00:02:48,530 --> 00:02:52,670 to give time, uh, if a fire should start, uh, 38 00:02:53,031 --> 00:02:55,330 give time to bring other water up, but still be 39 00:02:55,330 --> 00:02:58,210 able to respond to a fire quickly, keep it from 40 00:02:58,210 --> 00:03:02,530 spreading and becoming a wildfire. Uh, this helps local homeowners, 41 00:03:02,530 --> 00:03:04,930 but of course it also helps County Parks. We have 42 00:03:04,970 --> 00:03:08,530 no real need of a large fire here. Um, so 43 00:03:08,951 --> 00:03:11,970 how do we do that? We have a big cistern. 44 00:03:11,970 --> 00:03:14,530 Here's just a quick map. The green in the center 45 00:03:14,570 --> 00:03:17,890 is the bald mountain open space property. Sunshine Canyon Drive 46 00:03:18,311 --> 00:03:21,610 runs right through it. A little tiny red dot on 47 00:03:21,610 --> 00:03:26,210 the map is the proposed easement. It is 7 100ths 48 00:03:26,210 --> 00:03:31,084 of an acre. Um, so it's very, very tiny. I 49 00:03:31,105 --> 00:03:33,804 did a quick little closeup. You can see it's just 50 00:03:33,804 --> 00:03:39,324 a rectangle right along Sunshine Canyon drive. Um, uh, sending 51 00:03:39,425 --> 00:03:42,184 several homes, but also of course our open space. Uh, 52 00:03:42,305 --> 00:03:46,364 as I understand the district is interested in this location, 53 00:03:46,364 --> 00:03:48,444 not just because of the interval. It's at on the 54 00:03:48,484 --> 00:03:51,464 road, but also because of the topography, I guess, uh, 55 00:03:51,505 --> 00:03:53,804 the topography in this area is really difficult. And this 56 00:03:53,844 --> 00:03:56,044 is one of the few places that, uh, that really 57 00:03:56,145 --> 00:03:59,644 serves, uh, for what they're trying to do. Uh, this 58 00:03:59,665 --> 00:04:03,044 map is courtesy of the Sunshine Pro Pretection District. I 59 00:04:03,044 --> 00:04:05,644 just got this this morning. Uh, you can see three 60 00:04:05,745 --> 00:04:08,284 red dots. The one on the Northwest is an existing 61 00:04:08,705 --> 00:04:11,964 cistern, one of the southeast has also existing. And the 62 00:04:12,004 --> 00:04:14,604 proposed one is the big red dot right in the 63 00:04:14,644 --> 00:04:18,764 middle. And you can see it's nicely located. Uh, but 64 00:04:18,865 --> 00:04:21,004 they couldn't really put it any further east or south 65 00:04:21,105 --> 00:04:23,484 just because the topography just, just doesn't work for it. 66 00:04:24,708 --> 00:04:28,447 Uh, so again, uh, the request, they contacted us with 67 00:04:28,468 --> 00:04:32,287 a notice intent to acquire. And easement on bald mountain 68 00:04:32,287 --> 00:04:35,327 property for the cistern. This is a 40, 000 gallon 69 00:04:35,428 --> 00:04:41,087 cistern. Again, 7 100th of an acre and proposed value 70 00:04:41,108 --> 00:04:47,487 is 5, 000 dollars for this easement. Uh, Considerations here, 71 00:04:47,487 --> 00:04:51,247 certain enemies can condemn for public use, uh, five districts 72 00:04:51,247 --> 00:04:53,327 can't do that. So in situations like this, we prefer 73 00:04:53,428 --> 00:04:57,647 to cooperate instead of try to have a big fight. 74 00:04:57,647 --> 00:05:00,847 Um, through cooperation staff can work with the applicant to 75 00:05:00,948 --> 00:05:04,207 mitigate impacts. Make sure we at fair compensation and keep 76 00:05:04,247 --> 00:05:08,447 everybody out of a long, expensive and difficult court process. 77 00:05:08,447 --> 00:05:12,367 Uh, public notice was provided via publication in their choir 78 00:05:12,407 --> 00:05:15,647 newspapers and mailings to neighbors within 500 feet of the 79 00:05:15,647 --> 00:05:18,447 site. As of today, we have not received any comments 80 00:05:18,487 --> 00:05:22,847 from the Public regarding this application. Uh, Lee Parks support 81 00:05:23,188 --> 00:05:26,047 the disposition of this easement. I want to clarify in 82 00:05:26,047 --> 00:05:29,407 the, in the memo I was rushing. I think I 83 00:05:29,588 --> 00:05:32,607 may, an illusion that this was feed. This is, the 84 00:05:32,788 --> 00:05:35,707 fee transfer involved here. This is just an easement. Um, 85 00:05:35,988 --> 00:05:39,407 we support this and, uh, looking forward to any questions 86 00:05:39,588 --> 00:05:42,047 you have. I do have some folks here from the 87 00:05:42,087 --> 00:05:44,527 fire protection district. If you have any questions that I 88 00:05:44,567 --> 00:05:48,205 can't answer, uh, they're on hand to help. Thanks. Thank 89 00:05:48,245 --> 00:05:54,832 you Aaron POSEC. Do we have any questions? Vicky. Hi 90 00:05:54,853 --> 00:05:59,714 Aaron. Thank you so much. Um, I'm sorry. I've been 91 00:05:59,714 --> 00:06:02,914 gone. Vicky Lars with post accident. So have I. I've 92 00:06:02,914 --> 00:06:06,674 been having too much fun. So having grown up in 93 00:06:06,674 --> 00:06:08,994 the mountains up four mile canyon. I appreciate the need 94 00:06:09,015 --> 00:06:12,514 for water in places. Just had a curiosity. Do they 95 00:06:12,554 --> 00:06:14,434 prefer to put them on public land or do they 96 00:06:14,474 --> 00:06:18,034 make an effort to put them on private homeowner's land. 97 00:06:19,217 --> 00:06:21,596 How do, how do they're picking the spots that they're 98 00:06:21,596 --> 00:06:24,076 using other than you were saying geographically this was a 99 00:06:24,076 --> 00:06:26,956 better spot. Yeah. I think it's just the intervals and 100 00:06:26,956 --> 00:06:29,516 the topography. But if it's anything different, you can let 101 00:06:29,516 --> 00:06:39,387 me know. Salan curtain. I'm with the, uh, Sunshine 102 00:06:39,427 --> 00:06:42,747 Fire Protection District. We actually for the mic, please. Sure. 103 00:06:42,787 --> 00:06:45,707 Thank you. We can, uh, we've put all of our 104 00:06:45,968 --> 00:06:50,827 cisterns so far on private property. As Aaron had alluded 105 00:06:50,827 --> 00:06:54,187 to, we have a difficult time in the bottom part 106 00:06:54,187 --> 00:06:58,267 of our district because the road is falling. They're contour 107 00:06:58,288 --> 00:07:01,867 of a ridge. So we have a steep drop off 108 00:07:01,907 --> 00:07:05,027 on one side, a steep hillside on the other. So 109 00:07:05,248 --> 00:07:07,947 literally from the bottom of our district up until the 110 00:07:07,947 --> 00:07:11,867 four mile marker on Sunshine Canyon drive, we have no 111 00:07:11,968 --> 00:07:16,187 ability to put a fire cistern in. And once we 112 00:07:16,227 --> 00:07:19,607 get to the formal marker, we are into the, uh, 113 00:07:20,128 --> 00:07:26,005 Boulder County Parks and Open Space Bald Mountain. Area. So 114 00:07:26,626 --> 00:07:29,325 the only way we can get a sister is close 115 00:07:29,346 --> 00:07:31,645 to the bottom of our district as possible is to 116 00:07:31,645 --> 00:07:35,277 do that on bald mountain property. And how close are 117 00:07:35,277 --> 00:07:37,677 these to the road? Is there like a truck can 118 00:07:37,677 --> 00:07:39,277 just be on the side of the road and pump 119 00:07:39,317 --> 00:07:43,037 out of it? Uh, we have done the easement so 120 00:07:43,037 --> 00:07:46,477 that a truck can pull in perpendicular to the system. 121 00:07:46,477 --> 00:07:50,237 So perpendicular to the road. And also we're looking to 122 00:07:50,277 --> 00:07:52,797 put a larger cistern in here. It'd be 40, 000 123 00:07:52,818 --> 00:07:56,957 gallons, but we can actually pull engines off the road 124 00:07:57,138 --> 00:08:00,477 completely. Because in a fire emergency, you've got to have 125 00:08:00,818 --> 00:08:04,397 free access on the road for vehicles coming up and 126 00:08:04,397 --> 00:08:13,804 down the canyon. Great. Thank you. Um, Christine. Christine Johnson 127 00:08:14,145 --> 00:08:16,684 POSAC. I'm going to ask what I feel like our 128 00:08:16,684 --> 00:08:19,784 obvious questions, but I didn't quite know the answer. And 129 00:08:19,784 --> 00:08:22,924 so I'm sure other people are curious. I assume the 130 00:08:22,964 --> 00:08:26,444 reason that they're not above ground is because water freezes. 131 00:08:27,975 --> 00:08:34,034 Right. Um, and then I think the photos in the 132 00:08:34,034 --> 00:08:37,721 slideshow, Aaron, were really helpful. How are these filled? Are 133 00:08:37,721 --> 00:08:41,741 they filled by, by trucks? Or how are they filled? 134 00:08:41,741 --> 00:08:45,990 They're filled with trucks. Yeah. We have to have the 135 00:08:45,990 --> 00:08:50,618 water truck from town. As you can imagine, uh. Wells 136 00:08:50,959 --> 00:08:55,178 or precious comp commodity up there. So they're filled, they're 137 00:08:55,178 --> 00:09:02,701 filled by trucks. John. John White POC. With the picture 138 00:09:02,802 --> 00:09:05,981 here, um, I assume that this was just put in 139 00:09:06,242 --> 00:09:10,661 because there's, olders are treads here. What's just going to 140 00:09:10,661 --> 00:09:14,541 look like in a year just with three pipes and 141 00:09:14,642 --> 00:09:17,981 a big, uh, there's actually, um, it gets mounded over 142 00:09:18,021 --> 00:09:22,301 the tank. So there's actually about a two foot mound, 143 00:09:22,301 --> 00:09:25,484 uh, that's over the tank. And we, we of course 144 00:09:25,484 --> 00:09:29,804 have to revegetate and, uh, we do all the, all 145 00:09:29,844 --> 00:09:32,204 of what's required from Boulder County is if we were 146 00:09:33,025 --> 00:09:36,364 say building a structure, doing anything else. It's got to 147 00:09:36,364 --> 00:09:39,644 return to its natural condition. I think it's great. Thanks. 148 00:09:41,744 --> 00:09:47,834 Any other post - sac questions. This is Trey Baker, 149 00:09:47,834 --> 00:09:54,234 POSAC. We'll construction impact visitation at the Bald Mountain area. 150 00:09:55,693 --> 00:09:57,672 Well, as you can see from the picture, I mean, 151 00:09:58,093 --> 00:10:01,432 there is some impact, uh, especially the part, you know, 152 00:10:01,432 --> 00:10:06,872 the parking area light at the cistern. And, uh, you 153 00:10:06,872 --> 00:10:09,352 know, and then as I'd mentioned, we have to re 154 00:10:09,392 --> 00:10:12,872 - vegetate. So the site is restored. Do it's more 155 00:10:12,893 --> 00:10:16,372 natural condition. Yeah. But my question was more about, um, 156 00:10:17,133 --> 00:10:20,712 the, uh, you're a little bit downhill from the parking 157 00:10:20,733 --> 00:10:26,632 area for bald mountain. And so, um, access to the 158 00:10:26,733 --> 00:10:31,512 parking area, uh, limited during construction? No, no, it won't 159 00:10:31,512 --> 00:10:34,312 be impacted at all. So we are about two tenths 160 00:10:34,312 --> 00:10:37,512 of a mile from the parking area with the cistern. 161 00:10:37,512 --> 00:10:40,312 So it's far enough away. There'd be no, no impact. 162 00:10:40,312 --> 00:10:45,192 Okay. Thank you. Any more questions comments from POSAC. Nick, 163 00:10:45,192 --> 00:10:51,319 do we have anybody registered online. Yeah, thank you. Um, 164 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,179 for those on the Zoom webinar, if you would like 165 00:10:53,179 --> 00:10:56,939 to make comment, please use the raise hand feature so 166 00:10:56,939 --> 00:11:03,601 we can call on you. I don't see any raised 167 00:11:03,641 --> 00:11:06,561 hands for this agenda item. Do we have anybody in 168 00:11:06,582 --> 00:11:12,344 the, um, hearing room that wants to comment. Okay. I 169 00:11:12,384 --> 00:11:16,664 don't see anybody on the, um, in the hearing room. 170 00:11:16,664 --> 00:11:22,824 So, uh, may we have a motion for, um, approval 171 00:11:22,845 --> 00:11:30,240 to the, uh, County Commissioners. Carol Byarly POSCO move second. 172 00:11:32,437 --> 00:11:37,296 All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Posed. 173 00:11:37,296 --> 00:11:41,536 So this passes unanimously. So Aaron, thank you. And thank 174 00:11:41,536 --> 00:11:48,165 you for the, uh, volunteer fighter fighters there. Thanks very 175 00:11:48,165 --> 00:11:57,942 much. Okay. Our next 176 00:12:00,043 --> 00:12:08,359 topic will be, um, 2027 cast and open space. Uh, 177 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:13,319 cast projects. And, um, we are actually going to conduct 178 00:12:13,340 --> 00:12:19,719 this, uh, session of the, um, meeting in two parts. 179 00:12:19,719 --> 00:12:24,279 The first part today will be looking only at Sturge 180 00:12:24,319 --> 00:12:30,763 Shift Projects. And we will not vote tonight. Um, although 181 00:12:30,784 --> 00:12:36,323 we will have public discussion, um, then next week, I 182 00:12:36,323 --> 00:12:39,643 mean, next month's meeting, um, we will have a presentation 183 00:12:39,824 --> 00:12:45,483 on, uh, capital improvement projects. And then we will again 184 00:12:45,523 --> 00:12:51,096 have public comment, um, vote for the County Commissioners. So, 185 00:12:51,096 --> 00:12:57,170 uh, Zana, it's all yours. And please correct me if 186 00:12:57,191 --> 00:13:00,530 I mispronouncing your name. Uh, good evening, everybody. Um, my 187 00:13:00,570 --> 00:13:03,890 name is Jana Yermakov. I'm the resource planning division manager. 188 00:13:04,588 --> 00:13:07,367 Give us two seconds why we work through some technical 189 00:13:10,428 --> 00:13:11,847 trace. I may have a quick question about what you 190 00:13:11,887 --> 00:13:15,327 just said. Yes. Can you let me know, are the, 191 00:13:15,327 --> 00:13:16,687 any of the things the projects that are in front 192 00:13:16,687 --> 00:13:19,327 of us, none of those are considered capital projects. These 193 00:13:19,327 --> 00:13:21,807 are all stewardship. That's correct. So it's just like what 194 00:13:21,847 --> 00:13:24,767 we have in front of us tonight. We're talking about. 195 00:13:24,767 --> 00:13:26,607 And then we'll see a whole nother list of capital 196 00:13:26,647 --> 00:13:32,491 projects. And two separate. There will be one vote, but 197 00:13:32,491 --> 00:13:38,811 we will accept public comment for the stewardship tonight. And 198 00:13:38,811 --> 00:13:42,831 next month we will accept public for Capitol. And then 199 00:13:42,831 --> 00:13:45,631 we will vote on the whole package all at once. 200 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:50,299 All right. Well, I'm going to kick us off. Good 201 00:13:50,299 --> 00:13:52,539 evening POSAC. My name is Heidi Wagner and I'm the 202 00:13:52,579 --> 00:13:55,899 deputy of direct strategic foundations. And I just thought I 203 00:13:55,899 --> 00:14:01,739 would give a brief introduction here, um, welcoming Janna Yermakov 204 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,379 to her very first POSAC meeting. Welcome. As our resource 205 00:14:06,419 --> 00:14:10,539 planning manager. John has started with us about 11 months 206 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:15,353 ago. Um, we stole her from the feds. And she 207 00:14:15,454 --> 00:14:19,673 has done a fantastic job settling into a very complicated 208 00:14:19,774 --> 00:14:24,393 role, um, providing outstanding leadership to the teams of planning 209 00:14:25,134 --> 00:14:29,433 project management and design, IT and business analyst, uh, team 210 00:14:29,473 --> 00:14:34,373 and data solutions. And if you recall those of you 211 00:14:34,414 --> 00:14:37,673 that have been on POSC, uh, for more than one 212 00:14:37,713 --> 00:14:43,193 year, um, Tina Nielsen used to present our CAS projects 213 00:14:43,294 --> 00:14:48,233 every year. So Janna has bravely stepped forward to try 214 00:14:48,254 --> 00:14:51,513 to fill those very big shoes. And I'm delighted to 215 00:14:51,534 --> 00:14:54,713 introduce to you tonight, Jana. And she'll take it from 216 00:14:54,894 --> 00:15:00,313 here. And I'm here just to answer questions. Thanks, Heidi. 217 00:15:00,313 --> 00:15:04,153 All right. So, um, as was mentioned, this is part 218 00:15:04,254 --> 00:15:07,753 one of our Presentation for the Stewart Projects. And we'll 219 00:15:07,753 --> 00:15:15,921 bring the second half to you, uh, next month. So 220 00:15:15,961 --> 00:15:19,681 this is a for those that are new. A reminder, 221 00:15:19,681 --> 00:15:24,401 um, also, um, for, for everyone, um, what funding we're 222 00:15:24,441 --> 00:15:28,241 talking about. So CAS projects are designed to advance departmental 223 00:15:28,281 --> 00:15:32,801 goals beyond routine operations and normal operating budgets that consist 224 00:15:33,062 --> 00:15:37,041 of, um, of small target efforts that address maintenance backlogs 225 00:15:37,142 --> 00:15:42,401 while improving operational, planning and physical infrastructure needs. They include 226 00:15:42,742 --> 00:15:47,761 work on trails, facilities, agricultural infrastructure and conservation and maintenance 227 00:15:47,782 --> 00:15:52,961 projects. So they really consist of projects that are small 228 00:15:52,982 --> 00:15:57,521 projects under 250, 000 dollars that we'll be talking about 229 00:15:57,702 --> 00:16:01,761 today. And we also have capital projects, uh, that are 230 00:16:01,761 --> 00:16:04,641 over 250, 000 dollars that we will present next month. 231 00:16:08,975 --> 00:16:11,754 And John, do I'm sorry, Lauren Kelso, POSAC. Do they 232 00:16:11,754 --> 00:16:14,894 share the same budget. Both of the Capitol and the 233 00:16:15,015 --> 00:16:18,754 stewardship projects. Are they both in that 1. 87? No. 234 00:16:18,754 --> 00:16:22,634 So the 1. 87 is the, is the cap, is 235 00:16:22,634 --> 00:16:31,734 the recurring stewardship. Budget. So this year we have, um, 236 00:16:31,855 --> 00:16:37,834 a budget proposed budget of 1. 69 million dollars and 237 00:16:37,935 --> 00:16:47,070 spread across five divisions. So we'll start with agriculture and 238 00:16:47,110 --> 00:16:51,669 water. Um, the comprehensive structure assessment for agriculture properties will 239 00:16:51,669 --> 00:16:58,549 hire contractor to survey approximately 260 buildings across multiple parks, 240 00:16:58,549 --> 00:17:02,229 agricultural sites to evaluate their condition and inform future decisions 241 00:17:02,650 --> 00:17:07,029 about demolition and maintenance. The second project is the contracted 242 00:17:07,050 --> 00:17:10,149 lethal control of prairie docs. Uh, it will fund a 243 00:17:10,170 --> 00:17:14,549 qualified contractor to conduct lethal control on roughly 100 acres 244 00:17:14,570 --> 00:17:19,109 of NPD designated agricultural properties across one or more sites. 245 00:17:23,845 --> 00:17:28,464 Our next division is natural resources and ENO. We for 246 00:17:28,464 --> 00:17:32,624 the purposes of this presentation. We put those into one 247 00:17:32,645 --> 00:17:37,744 slide because they're both under one, one branch. These projects 248 00:17:38,565 --> 00:17:42,544 improve ecosystems and watersheds by removing piece of trees, restoring 249 00:17:42,565 --> 00:17:48,704 floodplains and protecting sensitive beaver habitat for most impacts. They 250 00:17:48,725 --> 00:17:53,024 also expand wildlife monitoring through new technology strength and AVN 251 00:17:53,205 --> 00:17:58,483 research. Partnerships and support ongoing adaptive management of key restoration 252 00:17:58,523 --> 00:18:03,043 sites. In addition, the work includes digitizing historical media and 253 00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:11,227 updating outdated interpretive signs to improve public education. Um, real 254 00:18:11,248 --> 00:18:17,227 estate has one project for 50, 000 dollars all blue 255 00:18:17,488 --> 00:18:20,987 real estate files, uh, freeing up valuable space, reducing the 256 00:18:21,008 --> 00:18:25,547 risk of loss from damage and making documents accessible across, 257 00:18:25,547 --> 00:18:29,547 um, parks both in the office and remotely contracted vendor 258 00:18:29,568 --> 00:18:32,907 will remove scan and securely recycle or destroyed the physical 259 00:18:33,168 --> 00:18:39,467 files organizing all materials digitally by property. Excuse me. Carol 260 00:18:39,488 --> 00:18:45,981 Byrne. What is a blue file. It's blue. Hi Carol. 261 00:18:45,981 --> 00:18:49,101 Heidi Wagner. So this is a term that we use 262 00:18:49,141 --> 00:18:51,901 internally. And Tina's here if she wants to add to 263 00:18:51,901 --> 00:18:55,881 it. Um, but there are, we have actually in the 264 00:18:55,881 --> 00:19:00,061 building a huge room dedicated to these real estate files 265 00:19:00,082 --> 00:19:04,941 that have been gathered since 1975. And they're mostly blue. 266 00:19:04,941 --> 00:19:07,501 So we call them the blue files, but they're full 267 00:19:07,501 --> 00:19:11,721 of information that needs to be scanned and digitized. Um, 268 00:19:11,721 --> 00:19:15,661 so we can recycle that original paper file. So that's 269 00:19:15,661 --> 00:19:18,301 what this project's intended to do. Okay. Thank you. 270 00:19:26,625 --> 00:19:33,975 Uh, recreational facilities. These projects repair important facilities, including the 271 00:19:34,076 --> 00:19:37,415 walk garage hay barn and the historic Les Baraka's building 272 00:19:37,996 --> 00:19:41,495 while also updating hundreds of permanent signs across parks and 273 00:19:41,495 --> 00:19:45,815 open space areas. They improved property security and infrastructure through 274 00:19:45,916 --> 00:19:51,655 neofencing upgrade gates. Colvert replacements, trail resurfacing. And evaluating and 275 00:19:51,695 --> 00:19:55,815 retaining wall for needed repairs. They also strengthen environmental monitoring 276 00:19:56,316 --> 00:20:00,695 with a drone mountain, hyperspectral imaging sensor to better track 277 00:20:00,956 --> 00:20:09,200 vegetation, soil and water conditions. And lastly, resource planning. These 278 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,760 projects promote cultural equity by documenting marginalized community histories and 279 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,080 improving how cultural heritage is managed and open space lands. 280 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,320 They also strengthen operations by improving the agriculture divisions AMS 281 00:20:22,341 --> 00:20:27,520 workflows monitoring local water quality for cardinal mail and preparing 282 00:20:27,941 --> 00:20:35,646 for future creek restoration work. And those are the stewardship 283 00:20:35,686 --> 00:20:45,071 projects proposed for 2027. Any questions. Viking Lawrence POSAC. Yeah. 284 00:20:45,071 --> 00:20:46,591 Can you go back to the previous slide just because 285 00:20:46,591 --> 00:20:50,031 I have no memory. So why is the buffalo infrastructure 286 00:20:50,071 --> 00:20:54,911 plan have no money attached to it? The buffalo infrastructure 287 00:20:54,951 --> 00:20:58,191 plan is actually going to be a capital project request 288 00:20:58,372 --> 00:21:01,291 and we will present that at the October meeting. And 289 00:21:01,291 --> 00:21:04,591 is this around the rabbit mountain area? Yes. Okay. Thank 290 00:21:04,591 --> 00:21:10,553 you. Car. Carol Byerly. I was wondering why some of 291 00:21:10,654 --> 00:21:17,993 this in the regular budget, for example, the project permitting. 292 00:21:17,993 --> 00:21:20,793 That seems like permitting would be part of an ongoing 293 00:21:23,054 --> 00:21:25,833 line and not something that would just be added in 294 00:21:25,873 --> 00:21:34,299 one year. So because it's only 90, 000 dollars into 295 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,699 the market. Not sure if you have high DMOR to 296 00:21:38,699 --> 00:21:43,259 say to that. Thanks, Carol. So when a division exceeds 297 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,779 your normal operational budget, they often turn to cast for 298 00:21:46,819 --> 00:21:49,739 that additional funding. And so that's the case in this 299 00:21:49,739 --> 00:21:53,819 permitting request. Is that funding isn't available within the division's 300 00:21:53,859 --> 00:21:56,699 operational budget. So they have to ask for additional funds. 301 00:21:58,956 --> 00:22:04,919 Thank you. John. John, Mike Pozak, I have a questions. 302 00:22:04,919 --> 00:22:12,619 Um, invasive tree removal. Heard Granted move, uh, invasive tree. 303 00:22:12,619 --> 00:22:17,019 How do you figure out what to do when not 304 00:22:17,019 --> 00:22:19,115 to do. How do you pick a number of hundred 305 00:22:19,296 --> 00:22:24,298 grand. When you have a gazillion Siberian elms and Russian 306 00:22:24,298 --> 00:22:30,780 olives. We're going to let Stefan, Ryan Hol come up 307 00:22:30,820 --> 00:22:33,500 here. That is our deputy director of Land Stewart and 308 00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:36,940 answer that because there is a formula and a method 309 00:22:37,281 --> 00:22:39,980 that team goes through every year and all that. Sure. 310 00:22:39,980 --> 00:22:44,700 Uh, Stephen Reynold, um, deputy director of Land Stewardship. So, 311 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:48,780 um, the invasive weeds team identifies project areas. So they're 312 00:22:48,780 --> 00:22:54,755 looking at a certain project area. And targeting that section. 313 00:22:54,755 --> 00:22:57,955 And the size of the contract just depends on how 314 00:22:57,995 --> 00:23:00,435 many trees are in that location. So they have a 315 00:23:00,435 --> 00:23:03,635 specific area in mind that they're going to target. So 316 00:23:04,216 --> 00:23:07,075 it's not going to get all the trees on opens, 317 00:23:07,075 --> 00:23:12,515 obviously. Something that's every year you have. So here and 318 00:23:12,536 --> 00:23:15,315 there. So it depends. So we had a one property 319 00:23:15,355 --> 00:23:18,515 where we did like two and a half years or 320 00:23:18,555 --> 00:23:21,315 two years of projects, but it was a hundred thousand, 321 00:23:21,355 --> 00:23:23,555 100, 000, then 50. And so this is just another 322 00:23:23,736 --> 00:23:26,355 project in a different location. So we're trying to bite 323 00:23:26,395 --> 00:23:29,215 off a little bit at a time rather than, um, 324 00:23:29,496 --> 00:23:34,788 take funding away from other projects. Okay. Thanks. Before you 325 00:23:34,889 --> 00:23:39,268 go, Vicky Lawrence, what area is being targeted? So I 326 00:23:39,268 --> 00:23:41,508 don't know which one they're looking at for this project. 327 00:23:41,508 --> 00:23:44,542 So I'd have to check with Joe. I can answer 328 00:23:44,542 --> 00:23:48,622 that stuff. Um, so they are looking at the thousand 329 00:23:48,803 --> 00:23:53,222 rain corridor, um, from the A frame to CMIX. So 330 00:23:53,222 --> 00:24:00,219 that's just northwest of hygiene. And then they're working on 331 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:04,539 CoalCreek on the East Boulder Creek or Prairie Run site 332 00:24:04,579 --> 00:24:08,539 on the northeast quadrant. So they did work already on 333 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,979 East Boulder Creek and now shifting to CoalCreek on that 334 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:18,778 property. Thank you. Next, uh, you have the last Barakas 335 00:24:18,818 --> 00:24:22,924 building overall. I probably shouldn't ask this since we're about 336 00:24:22,924 --> 00:24:25,484 to go and look at the place. How much of 337 00:24:25,484 --> 00:24:27,364 that's going to be restored and is it going to 338 00:24:27,364 --> 00:24:30,284 be restored enough? Is it just to keep the place 339 00:24:30,324 --> 00:24:35,084 standing or is it enough to open it for visitation. 340 00:24:36,515 --> 00:24:39,434 Um, I'll probably have to get back to you. And 341 00:24:39,434 --> 00:24:42,494 then I don't think it's to the point where actually 342 00:24:42,534 --> 00:24:48,174 open to visitation, but it is improvements to prevent further 343 00:24:48,214 --> 00:24:51,257 degradation. And I can add a little bit to that, 344 00:24:51,257 --> 00:24:53,977 John. So what we want to do is make it 345 00:24:53,977 --> 00:24:56,617 safe for staff to enter the building. So that does 346 00:24:56,638 --> 00:25:01,097 require those structural improvements and the asbestos abatement. And so 347 00:25:01,198 --> 00:25:05,897 if it will be open to the public is a 348 00:25:05,937 --> 00:25:10,864 future conversation, we're not there yet. Okay. Yeah. Um, AM, 349 00:25:10,864 --> 00:25:15,544 what's that? We got a bunch of questions on here 350 00:25:15,565 --> 00:25:20,221 that I sure. Burst. So it's, um, it's related to 351 00:25:20,322 --> 00:25:25,581 our asset management system. Um, it is the system that, 352 00:25:25,581 --> 00:25:31,021 um, that runs the software that runs, um, asset management 353 00:25:31,061 --> 00:25:37,631 system for the county. Okay. Um, trail resurfacing. 354 00:25:42,523 --> 00:25:45,967 The reused asphalt. I've seen that a lot on the 355 00:25:45,988 --> 00:25:50,287 sides of the roads, um, but I don't know. I've 356 00:25:50,287 --> 00:25:54,447 seen that on like hiking trails. Is that something it's 357 00:25:54,447 --> 00:25:59,114 safe when you're far away from our road. We're going 358 00:25:59,114 --> 00:26:02,554 to let Jarrett handle that question. Sorry. We're not trying 359 00:26:02,594 --> 00:26:04,954 to drive you guys crazy. That's why they're here. Okay. 360 00:26:05,295 --> 00:26:08,634 Yeah. John, uh, Jarrett Roberts, community, amenities deputy director. Yeah. 361 00:26:08,634 --> 00:26:10,554 Thanks, John. Otherwise, we're just sitting back there waiting for 362 00:26:10,575 --> 00:26:14,714 questions. Um, we have used recycled asphalt in a number 363 00:26:14,714 --> 00:26:17,754 of places for our trail system. It is actually like 364 00:26:18,415 --> 00:26:20,154 old roads that have been ripped up and then ground 365 00:26:20,194 --> 00:26:22,234 up into little pieces. Right. And it has a little 366 00:26:22,234 --> 00:26:24,714 bit of the residual stuff that helps make road stick 367 00:26:24,754 --> 00:26:28,034 together. And that helps the asphalt actually stick together. So 368 00:26:28,034 --> 00:26:30,234 we tend to use it in places where there's sever 369 00:26:30,274 --> 00:26:33,694 grades and we've had washouts. We got a lot of 370 00:26:33,694 --> 00:26:35,514 feedback from the public when we first put it in 371 00:26:35,615 --> 00:26:38,634 because it looks pretty different. But after a month or 372 00:26:38,674 --> 00:26:42,154 two, um, through wind and dust blowing over, it blends 373 00:26:42,175 --> 00:26:44,714 in very naturally. And you probably have walked on a 374 00:26:44,714 --> 00:26:47,521 number of trails and just haven't noticed it. We don't 375 00:26:47,521 --> 00:26:51,681 have to worry about chemicals from the asphalt. The reports 376 00:26:51,862 --> 00:26:54,401 that we had have shown, um, we have a couple 377 00:26:54,422 --> 00:26:56,481 reports. We've been trying to get more, more data on 378 00:26:56,481 --> 00:26:58,561 this, but what we have so far, show, there's not 379 00:26:58,582 --> 00:27:06,976 leeching. Okay. Thank you. Anybody else in POSC. Uh, let's 380 00:27:07,016 --> 00:27:11,649 see, let's go with Joan next. Joan Lot's POSAC. And 381 00:27:11,649 --> 00:27:13,269 I just wanted to say that I'm glad to see 382 00:27:13,370 --> 00:27:19,832 the most fancy. The most unseen at caribou because the 383 00:27:20,093 --> 00:27:24,632 moves have really done a number on the willow car. 384 00:27:24,632 --> 00:27:28,605 And there are some interesting plants in there. Just where 385 00:27:28,645 --> 00:27:31,405 the moose can't get. So I think it's a great 386 00:27:31,405 --> 00:27:38,631 idea. Vicky. Lawrence POC. I have a question about the, 387 00:27:38,631 --> 00:27:44,910 um, cardinal mill water quality. And there's, um, the 90, 388 00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:51,550 000 dollars for that ongoing testing or is this something 389 00:27:51,550 --> 00:27:55,070 that's hoping to sort of mitigate the problem long terms? 390 00:27:55,070 --> 00:27:56,910 Is this a one - time fee? Is this just 391 00:27:57,091 --> 00:27:58,910 every year we're going to be paying 90, 000 dollars 392 00:27:59,091 --> 00:28:03,470 for this? This test, this water quality testing is intended 393 00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:09,470 to, um, test the water after the recent construction has 394 00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:13,710 been completed that allowed us to terminate the permit at 395 00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:16,670 cardinal mail. So we wanted to continue the water testing 396 00:28:17,091 --> 00:28:21,550 to demonstrate that the improvements that we have made. What 397 00:28:21,550 --> 00:28:25,354 kind of impact that they have had. And we expect, 398 00:28:25,354 --> 00:28:28,474 we don't expect this to be necessarily ongoing. So we're 399 00:28:28,474 --> 00:28:30,394 going to see how it's going to be for the 400 00:28:30,434 --> 00:28:34,600 first year and then make a decision afterwards. Okay. Vicky 401 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,200 Lawrence again. I just remember sometime in the last year 402 00:28:38,461 --> 00:28:41,160 there was a huge amount of money that went to 403 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,280 the Cardinal mill because of the water. And so I 404 00:28:44,541 --> 00:28:47,960 guess I don't fully understand what has happened there if 405 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,120 that has been mitigated and you're just testing to be 406 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,080 sure the mitigation has been effective or if this is 407 00:28:53,120 --> 00:29:00,857 sort of an ongoing issue. Thanks Vicky. So the project 408 00:29:01,118 --> 00:29:05,817 is concluded. It's been mitigated. And this is Flow Up 409 00:29:06,158 --> 00:29:11,417 monitoring to ensure the improvements were working. Okay. Excellent. Thank 410 00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:13,177 you. That's, that's really good to hear. I was afraid 411 00:29:13,278 --> 00:29:16,697 this was something we were going to be doing forever. 412 00:29:16,697 --> 00:29:21,837 We were too. Any other questions comments. Okay. So, uh, 413 00:29:22,038 --> 00:29:25,963 Jeff. Uh, Hey, Jeff Adi POC. Um, so first one 414 00:29:26,003 --> 00:29:28,843 is just a clarifying question because I'm kind of new 415 00:29:28,843 --> 00:29:33,883 to this. So we are hearing about stewardship projects tonight. 416 00:29:35,087 --> 00:29:37,786 And then next month we're going to hear about capital 417 00:29:37,807 --> 00:29:42,026 improvement projects. And then we're going to make a recommendation 418 00:29:43,087 --> 00:29:47,460 as a group for all those projects together. Is that 419 00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:51,620 correct? Am I understanding that correctly? That's correct. Okay. And 420 00:29:51,660 --> 00:29:58,260 so we're really just like voting yes or no on 421 00:29:58,681 --> 00:30:07,148 the whole group. That's correct. Okay. All right. Um, I 422 00:30:07,169 --> 00:30:11,788 have a couple of questions about, uh, the lethal control 423 00:30:12,449 --> 00:30:16,108 prayer dogs, uh, I assume that means prairie dogs are 424 00:30:16,108 --> 00:30:20,846 going to be killed in the process. Of controlling them. 425 00:30:20,846 --> 00:30:25,894 You're correct. Yes. Okay. Why. So I'm going to call 426 00:30:25,915 --> 00:30:35,824 on Stefan. About that. Too. Hello again, Stephan Reynold, 427 00:30:35,824 --> 00:30:39,024 Deputy Director of Land Stewardship. Um, so we actually have 428 00:30:39,445 --> 00:30:43,664 a, um, prairie dog management plan. Um, that was developed, 429 00:30:43,664 --> 00:30:47,184 uh, with a lot of public input. And we identified 430 00:30:47,365 --> 00:30:49,824 a lot of different areas. And the areas that we're 431 00:30:49,864 --> 00:30:55,504 talking about here are called NPDs. No prairie dog areas. 432 00:30:55,504 --> 00:30:59,415 And there are on our agricultural releases. And so we're 433 00:30:59,455 --> 00:31:02,935 trying to make sure that our, um, the prairie dogs 434 00:31:02,935 --> 00:31:08,082 aren't doing damage to our agricultural releases. Okay. So I 435 00:31:08,082 --> 00:31:12,242 guess it's a protective measure for agricultural lessees so that 436 00:31:12,423 --> 00:31:15,602 prairie docs aren't heating their crops and so forth. That's 437 00:31:15,642 --> 00:31:19,202 correct. Um, and we do have usually, it's in December. 438 00:31:19,202 --> 00:31:22,802 We have a, um, prairie dog stakeholders meeting and you're 439 00:31:22,823 --> 00:31:24,862 more than welcome to join and learn a little bit 440 00:31:24,862 --> 00:31:29,274 more. Okay. Um, just out of curiosity and the development 441 00:31:29,295 --> 00:31:34,234 of that, uh, management plan were non - lethal methods 442 00:31:34,495 --> 00:31:39,713 of prayer dog control explored. Yes. There are a lot 443 00:31:39,713 --> 00:31:43,653 of that strictly regulated by CPW. Um, and so we 444 00:31:43,674 --> 00:31:45,653 actually have to get permission to be able to move 445 00:31:46,634 --> 00:31:49,733 prairie dogs. Um, and so we do relocate prairie dogs 446 00:31:49,773 --> 00:31:53,244 when we can. Uh, but it's, it's not as simple 447 00:31:53,265 --> 00:31:57,573 as just moving them. Okay. I mean, I guess just 448 00:31:57,573 --> 00:32:01,253 to clarify the budget is allotted to lethal control prairie 449 00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:03,493 dogs. So does that mean some of them will be 450 00:32:03,994 --> 00:32:09,973 relocated where possible or like budgeted specifically for killing Prairie 451 00:32:10,013 --> 00:32:13,173 dogs. So, so this budget is specifically for hiring contractors 452 00:32:13,213 --> 00:32:16,453 to do that work. Um, but our internal teams and 453 00:32:16,493 --> 00:32:20,373 crews will do relocations. We will do, uh, fencing trying 454 00:32:20,373 --> 00:32:24,373 to keep prairie dogs in areas where prairie dogs should 455 00:32:24,394 --> 00:32:29,733 be. Um, and stop them from moving onto our NPD 456 00:32:29,773 --> 00:32:35,217 areas. So the other efforts involved. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate 457 00:32:35,238 --> 00:32:39,377 it. Uh, Stefan, trace speaker POSAC, but these other efforts 458 00:32:39,638 --> 00:32:42,657 will come under a different budget. So those other efforts 459 00:32:42,838 --> 00:32:46,257 are covered under our normal operating budget. Okay. Thank you. 460 00:32:47,238 --> 00:32:56,486 Okay. Christine. Lauren. So I 461 00:32:56,486 --> 00:32:59,366 think, um, my question is a little bit more broad 462 00:33:00,107 --> 00:33:04,999 about these cast projects. Um, I know that you all 463 00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:09,039 have faced budgetary cuts in other places this year. So 464 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:12,759 how are you, how does the caste budget work within 465 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:16,119 that larger budget? And does the cast budget shrink? These 466 00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:19,319 are all very wonderful and important looking programs, but since 467 00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:21,719 you all are having to consider other cuts to your 468 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:25,959 general operating, how do you make that decision? Yeah. Thanks 469 00:33:25,959 --> 00:33:29,879 for asking great question. So the cast funding comes from 470 00:33:30,460 --> 00:33:35,239 126, our sales tax. And it is a yearly allocation 471 00:33:35,239 --> 00:33:39,839 that's part of our base budget. And this year, as 472 00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:44,279 you know, the commissioners have been looking at our 101 473 00:33:44,780 --> 00:33:49,959 general fund budget. So while 126 is not a part 474 00:33:49,959 --> 00:33:53,319 of that. We are of course being conservative and thoughtful 475 00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:58,339 with that budget. However, this is an existing allocation, um, 476 00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:01,399 and available for our use in 27. And you do 477 00:34:01,580 --> 00:34:04,679 sort of see that, I guess, with some teams basically 478 00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:08,399 saying this doesn't fit into our general fund budget. So 479 00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:10,599 they're starting to allocate some of that cast funding as 480 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:14,119 they need to to fill gaps. That's right. Most of 481 00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:16,199 our. So they can sort of use it if they 482 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,879 need to for general operating. Yes. So it fills gaps 483 00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:23,639 in division budgets, um, but most of our divisions are 484 00:34:24,140 --> 00:34:28,519 funded operations are funded through 126 sales tax as well. 485 00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:33,299 We do receive funding from 101, the general fund. But 486 00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:36,759 it's usually not a large part of a division's operational 487 00:34:36,799 --> 00:34:41,749 budget with some exceptions. Thanks. Thank you. John. Did you 488 00:34:41,749 --> 00:34:46,051 have another Lauren? Do you have anything more. Not at 489 00:34:46,051 --> 00:34:53,631 this time. Okay. Christine. I wanted to, Christine Johnson POSAC. 490 00:34:53,631 --> 00:34:57,871 Another question for Jared. And I think John mostly covered 491 00:35:00,212 --> 00:35:03,071 questions that came from a member of the public, Kate 492 00:35:03,071 --> 00:35:06,751 Rowe, about item number 19. And it was questions about 493 00:35:08,052 --> 00:35:12,431 the recycled asphalt. Um, but a couple of the questions 494 00:35:12,452 --> 00:35:18,031 that she had were, um, whether if you do end 495 00:35:18,031 --> 00:35:22,431 up using recycled asphalt, if, um, leads to increased water 496 00:35:22,452 --> 00:35:26,751 shedding, which could increase erosion off the surface of the 497 00:35:26,791 --> 00:35:31,951 trail. And if, uh, you end up with chunkier pieces, 498 00:35:31,951 --> 00:35:36,431 which make it harder for people with accessibility, um, issues. 499 00:35:45,576 --> 00:35:49,395 Hey, Jarrett Roberts Community amenities deputy director again. Um, yeah, 500 00:35:49,395 --> 00:35:51,795 and I read through the email on Tuesday and it's 501 00:35:51,896 --> 00:35:53,715 a balance for us, um, we have a lot of 502 00:35:53,736 --> 00:35:56,755 different trail materials ranging from natural dirt that we just 503 00:35:56,755 --> 00:36:00,915 dig up to crusher, fine to, the stabilized crusher find 504 00:36:01,016 --> 00:36:03,995 that is stuffed mixed into it, recycled asphalt. We have 505 00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:06,345 concrete. And so our trails team is trying to apply 506 00:36:06,526 --> 00:36:09,785 the right to the right job. We're not out there 507 00:36:09,825 --> 00:36:12,505 using recycled asphalt everywhere. We're using it where we think 508 00:36:12,686 --> 00:36:16,105 it works the best. Um, the trade - off is 509 00:36:16,145 --> 00:36:18,265 if we put road base or some of the other 510 00:36:18,526 --> 00:36:22,265 more natural materials in very steep sections, then they tend 511 00:36:22,265 --> 00:36:24,905 to wash out. Um, I was thinking as I was 512 00:36:24,945 --> 00:36:27,945 reading that email right after the martial fire, we went 513 00:36:27,945 --> 00:36:30,745 out on the metal like trail. And because all the 514 00:36:30,785 --> 00:36:33,625 vegetation had burned down, you could actually look at in 515 00:36:33,625 --> 00:36:36,505 the field and you could see this area where the, 516 00:36:36,505 --> 00:36:38,585 the road base, I just washed out. And there was 517 00:36:38,585 --> 00:36:41,605 almost this alluvial fan going out of, of sediment. And 518 00:36:41,605 --> 00:36:43,305 if you think about the impact there, it was pretty 519 00:36:43,345 --> 00:36:47,545 huge. Uh, switching over to recycled asphalt in that situation. 520 00:36:47,545 --> 00:36:49,465 We've had no problems. And that was an area that 521 00:36:49,646 --> 00:36:52,665 had walked out many, many times. We were spending 10, 522 00:36:52,665 --> 00:36:55,225 000 plus dollars a year replacing it. Um, and so 523 00:36:55,646 --> 00:36:58,505 that's the right application of that. Um, there are trade 524 00:36:58,505 --> 00:37:01,545 - offs. We haven't seen a ton of issues with 525 00:37:01,585 --> 00:37:03,545 it being large and junky. If you get the right 526 00:37:03,726 --> 00:37:06,505 recycled asphalt, it's the same as getting roads. You need 527 00:37:06,505 --> 00:37:08,505 to get the right material. Um, but we haven't seen 528 00:37:08,505 --> 00:37:12,025 that. I can forward anyone is interested. Their reports that 529 00:37:12,025 --> 00:37:13,945 we looked at in the past that talk about leaching 530 00:37:13,985 --> 00:37:15,865 and things like that. And, and we're very open to 531 00:37:16,126 --> 00:37:19,225 getting new information. But for what we've seen, um, most 532 00:37:19,246 --> 00:37:23,385 of the binding material washes off during the actual asphalt, 533 00:37:23,385 --> 00:37:24,585 like in the road phase. And then by the time 534 00:37:24,606 --> 00:37:27,225 it's ground up, we're not seeing as much of that. 535 00:37:27,225 --> 00:37:30,245 Um, but again, we're open to learn and grow. But 536 00:37:30,245 --> 00:37:32,025 it is, is one tool in our toolbox, not the 537 00:37:32,025 --> 00:37:36,493 only tool. Thank you. That's a super, super complete answer. 538 00:37:36,493 --> 00:37:41,763 And I just wanted that, um, email addressed. Thanks. To 539 00:37:41,763 --> 00:37:45,683 a question for you, go ahead, John. You said metal 540 00:37:45,723 --> 00:37:48,883 arc trail. Is that what, uh, was, oh, John White 541 00:37:48,984 --> 00:37:52,643 Bozak was used for Colton or is that, who is 542 00:37:52,643 --> 00:37:54,083 empty? Yes. So the metal arc, which goes up that 543 00:37:54,123 --> 00:37:56,803 hill right by Colton or Alpha Coldon, a Jared Roberts 544 00:37:56,843 --> 00:37:59,203 again, um, yeah, that used to be a crusher find 545 00:37:59,243 --> 00:38:02,563 material. We actually tried stabilized crusher vine. Stabilized is really 546 00:38:02,563 --> 00:38:04,163 good to a point. But then once it starts to 547 00:38:04,203 --> 00:38:07,683 break, we get these really big goalies that wash out. 548 00:38:07,683 --> 00:38:09,363 Um, and so we ended up replacing a good section 549 00:38:09,403 --> 00:38:12,003 of that with, um, with the recycled asphalt. And we 550 00:38:12,003 --> 00:38:13,683 did get a lot of comments at first that it 551 00:38:13,683 --> 00:38:16,003 looked like it looked like a road. And then again, 552 00:38:16,104 --> 00:38:18,803 as that dust and stuff covers it up, you almost 553 00:38:18,843 --> 00:38:24,826 can't tell now. Yeah. I've noticed that. Thank you. Um, 554 00:38:24,927 --> 00:38:30,450 okay. Vicky. Vicki Lawrence POSEC, Stephan. I'm sorry. I'm going 555 00:38:30,450 --> 00:38:36,530 to make you come up again. Um, sorry. I didn't 556 00:38:36,570 --> 00:38:40,210 get all my questions at once. Um, talk more about 557 00:38:40,391 --> 00:38:47,625 the lethal prairie dog control, one where and how. You 558 00:38:47,625 --> 00:38:52,105 don't know where. Yeah. It's Stephen Reynold again, deputy director 559 00:38:52,206 --> 00:38:55,525 Land Stewardship. So, um, I'm not sure where this, uh, 560 00:38:56,206 --> 00:38:59,225 the funding is in terms of which location they want 561 00:38:59,265 --> 00:39:03,225 this contract to do the work. Um, so I don't 562 00:39:03,246 --> 00:39:08,105 have that answer. Um, but again, I think if you 563 00:39:08,145 --> 00:39:10,425 really want to learn about how we do our prairie 564 00:39:10,425 --> 00:39:12,665 dog management, I really encourage you to come to our 565 00:39:12,686 --> 00:39:17,285 meeting in December because we go through the plan, all 566 00:39:17,285 --> 00:39:20,025 the stakeholders are there. Those that are, you know, want 567 00:39:20,065 --> 00:39:22,505 us to retain prairie dogs because we do as well. 568 00:39:22,505 --> 00:39:25,385 Um, our goal is to actually, um, have enough prairie 569 00:39:25,385 --> 00:39:27,785 dogs in the rabbit mountain complex that we can reintroduce 570 00:39:28,206 --> 00:39:31,305 the blackfooted ferret. So there's a lot of different areas 571 00:39:31,806 --> 00:39:34,025 where we want prairie dogs. And then the areas that 572 00:39:34,686 --> 00:39:38,265 for our leaseholders that we don't, um, the actual methods 573 00:39:38,305 --> 00:39:40,985 that we use, um, I can't speak to that because 574 00:39:41,406 --> 00:39:43,105 it's, it's, it's a gas and I don't want to 575 00:39:43,105 --> 00:39:46,265 mix up which one it is. Um, but they, they, 576 00:39:46,286 --> 00:39:50,025 they, they do, uh, use a perk machine and the 577 00:39:50,065 --> 00:39:54,565 gas gets pumped down into the prairie dog holes. And 578 00:39:54,565 --> 00:39:57,145 that's my understanding. I just want to be sure we're 579 00:39:57,185 --> 00:39:59,705 using anything that then becomes lethal up the food chain 580 00:39:59,966 --> 00:40:02,905 to predators. No, we don't do that. And I, I 581 00:40:03,166 --> 00:40:05,225 hear from a letter and I don't think that came 582 00:40:05,326 --> 00:40:07,145 to POSC. I think I got it somewhere else from 583 00:40:07,326 --> 00:40:13,145 Dana Bove about trapping out at Stearn's Lake. Now I 584 00:40:13,185 --> 00:40:15,225 monitor the Eagles out there. Haven't been out there to 585 00:40:15,225 --> 00:40:17,545 look where they're trapping. But I know that Prairie Dogs 586 00:40:17,545 --> 00:40:21,225 had been invading into the agricultural land. So I noticed 587 00:40:21,225 --> 00:40:22,825 a little bit off topic. Can you speak to that 588 00:40:22,926 --> 00:40:25,705 at all for me? Yeah. So I mean, the situation 589 00:40:25,966 --> 00:40:28,485 there is a little bit different. Right. So obviously, um, 590 00:40:28,686 --> 00:40:31,545 our Eagles do utilize prairie dogs as part of their 591 00:40:31,566 --> 00:40:34,745 food supply. And of course fish as well. Um, and 592 00:40:35,486 --> 00:40:38,185 in those situations, it's kind of difficult because we have 593 00:40:38,185 --> 00:40:41,385 to manage for multiple objectives. Right. And so we're looking 594 00:40:41,425 --> 00:40:45,305 at those locations and we're not getting rid of all 595 00:40:45,305 --> 00:40:47,465 the prairie dogs in that location. And that's usually not 596 00:40:47,646 --> 00:40:50,754 the right practice to do. Because the population is going 597 00:40:50,754 --> 00:40:53,074 to come back and it's, it's going to boom again 598 00:40:53,415 --> 00:40:55,474 unless you get rid of them all. Uh, but we 599 00:40:55,474 --> 00:40:57,114 don't want to do that because we don't want to 600 00:40:57,495 --> 00:40:59,874 take too much of the prairie dogs from the food 601 00:41:00,055 --> 00:41:04,434 source for those eagles. Um, but we also want to, 602 00:41:04,434 --> 00:41:07,634 uh, validate the issues our leaseholders are having on the 603 00:41:07,674 --> 00:41:10,274 land. And so it's a kind of a delicate balance. 604 00:41:10,517 --> 00:41:13,056 Okay. Thank you. And I am aware. I mean, there's 605 00:41:13,056 --> 00:41:16,576 a huge prairie dog designated area out there. And like 606 00:41:16,616 --> 00:41:20,016 I say, I know that they're impinging on the agricultural 607 00:41:20,037 --> 00:41:27,547 fields there. So thank you. Great. Thanks. Further, Joan. Um, 608 00:41:27,568 --> 00:41:32,027 so out at Batasso, the second, not the main parking 609 00:41:32,027 --> 00:41:34,507 lot, but the one that's a little northeast of there. 610 00:41:34,507 --> 00:41:39,467 I think there's a recycle, um, asphalt path leading from 611 00:41:39,568 --> 00:41:42,987 that parking lot. And it is deeper, but it's, it 612 00:41:43,168 --> 00:41:46,587 seemed fine to me as far as probably pretty smooth 613 00:41:46,688 --> 00:41:50,907 for even like wheelchairs. But I also wanted to ask 614 00:41:51,168 --> 00:41:57,147 whether there's any money in this cast projects for signage 615 00:41:57,168 --> 00:42:04,791 and or additional patrolling of the Tucker property. So that's 616 00:42:04,791 --> 00:42:08,231 not proposed for 27. Um, as you know, we do 617 00:42:08,271 --> 00:42:10,791 have work to complete up there, but that will be 618 00:42:11,692 --> 00:42:16,471 a separate, potentially a separate budget requests for additional patrol 619 00:42:17,292 --> 00:42:19,831 and then signage would be covered under, we have a 620 00:42:20,172 --> 00:42:25,431 line item in the directors budget, um, for property stabilization, 621 00:42:25,431 --> 00:42:28,791 emergent issues and so forth that would cover additional signage 622 00:42:28,812 --> 00:42:34,246 costs. Okay. Because I remember it was said that the 623 00:42:34,286 --> 00:42:40,566 number of unautarized trails has just grown so much in 624 00:42:40,566 --> 00:42:44,974 the past few years. So with every delay, we could 625 00:42:44,995 --> 00:42:53,750 have even more trails. Agreed. Anything else from POSAC. Okay. 626 00:42:54,171 --> 00:42:59,208 Recall. Recall, we're not voting on this one. So, um, 627 00:42:59,249 --> 00:43:05,468 so, um, public comments, is there, Nick, anybody registered to 628 00:43:05,649 --> 00:43:08,011 speak in person. Yeah, I'll just give a second for 629 00:43:08,011 --> 00:43:10,171 anybody on the Zoom webinar. If you want to make 630 00:43:10,211 --> 00:43:17,295 comments, use the raise hand feature. I'm not seeing any 631 00:43:17,396 --> 00:43:20,405 raised hand. Well, I think we're done with this topic 632 00:43:20,746 --> 00:43:30,735 then. Sohanna. Well, in the audience, yes, please. Thank 633 00:43:30,735 --> 00:43:35,295 you, Carol. Yes, yes, please do. And state your name 634 00:43:35,956 --> 00:43:37,855 an approximately where you live. You don't have to give 635 00:43:37,956 --> 00:43:45,655 your exact address. Uh, Kevin Williams. Martin Akers, Boulder student. 636 00:43:47,288 --> 00:43:49,907 Quick question. How did you guys come to the total 637 00:43:49,928 --> 00:43:53,267 of 50, 000 for files? Cause it seems like kind 638 00:43:53,267 --> 00:43:57,907 of a lot to me. Really this section is for 639 00:43:58,248 --> 00:44:00,867 Public Comment and we don't engage in a back and 640 00:44:00,867 --> 00:44:04,787 forth with the, uh, staff. But thank you for your 641 00:44:04,968 --> 00:44:08,547 question. Yeah. That's all I got. Don't mean to waste 642 00:44:08,547 --> 00:44:12,733 your guys'time. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. And 643 00:44:12,914 --> 00:44:15,975 I will be back next month. One second half. Okay. 644 00:44:16,015 --> 00:44:21,670 Thank you. Okay. So that is all of the staff 645 00:44:21,931 --> 00:44:26,870 presentations. We're going to receive today at Trace Baker POSAC. 646 00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:33,190 Do we have, um, any comments or questions from POSAC 647 00:44:33,611 --> 00:44:43,382 for items not on tonight's staff agenda. Christine. Christine 648 00:44:43,403 --> 00:44:49,222 Johnson POSAC. I just wanted to note that on the 649 00:44:49,403 --> 00:44:55,222 drought monitor with the university of Nebraska Lincoln, um, I 650 00:44:55,243 --> 00:44:59,062 checked it this morning. And a good chunk of Eastern 651 00:44:59,083 --> 00:45:04,902 Boulder County is now D4, the most severe, um, drought 652 00:45:04,942 --> 00:45:10,422 category. And that falls over a lot of, uh, agricultural 653 00:45:10,603 --> 00:45:15,542 land. And I look forward to, um, possibly in our 654 00:45:15,542 --> 00:45:22,822 retreat this winter discussing drought, further detail. Thanks. 655 00:45:26,788 --> 00:45:30,769 Lauren. Um, I guess Lauren Kelso, I think, um, one 656 00:45:30,809 --> 00:45:33,889 thing that I learned through this process to was just 657 00:45:33,889 --> 00:45:40,309 that they're drought resilience measures and capital projects. A lot 658 00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:43,489 of that stuff may come into the Capitol projects conversation, 659 00:45:43,489 --> 00:45:45,569 um, Christine. So I think that's another thing to kind 660 00:45:45,569 --> 00:45:48,369 of keep an eye out for, um, in our next 661 00:45:48,409 --> 00:45:54,913 month conversation. Thank you. Anything else from POSAC members on 662 00:45:54,953 --> 00:46:01,385 any topic. Okay. Well, thank you. Um, next agenda item 663 00:46:01,425 --> 00:46:03,225 is the director's update. 664 00:46:20,638 --> 00:46:23,257 Hi, good evening. This is Jason Suk, Director of Parks 665 00:46:23,297 --> 00:46:28,057 in OpenSpace coming to you tonight in disguise. It's nice 666 00:46:28,057 --> 00:46:31,977 to be out of, you know, typical work clothes here. 667 00:46:31,977 --> 00:46:34,857 And, uh, actually get out onto our, our open space. 668 00:46:36,003 --> 00:46:39,247 And. It's great to be here with you tonight. Um, 669 00:46:39,668 --> 00:46:41,727 great question. So I just want to say first, great 670 00:46:41,727 --> 00:46:43,407 questions. And thank you so much for the discussion on 671 00:46:43,428 --> 00:46:50,131 the CAS projects. This is an interesting discussion because it's 672 00:46:50,131 --> 00:46:53,891 a small kind of peeling back the curtain on the 673 00:46:53,931 --> 00:46:56,291 complexities of the budget and these things. And I think 674 00:46:56,291 --> 00:46:59,811 I just want to emphasize that, um, I would say. 675 00:47:02,072 --> 00:47:06,611 We'll call it like 60 40 70 is of our 676 00:47:06,651 --> 00:47:09,571 funding is from that 126 sales tax fund. We do 677 00:47:09,611 --> 00:47:14,531 have general funds. Those are usually for non open space, 678 00:47:14,531 --> 00:47:16,831 uh, items that we take care of. So that's, um, 679 00:47:17,592 --> 00:47:21,311 things like, uh, the fairgrounds, things like youth core, um, 680 00:47:21,352 --> 00:47:23,971 things that are kind of typically outside of the open 681 00:47:24,011 --> 00:47:27,811 space arena that we are, you know, charged with overseeing, 682 00:47:27,811 --> 00:47:30,851 implementing and managing. And so the bulk of our work 683 00:47:31,432 --> 00:47:34,131 and, you know, much of our discussion here and your 684 00:47:34,131 --> 00:47:38,611 purview is on, uh, the 126 funds. And so some 685 00:47:38,611 --> 00:47:40,611 of those are capital projects. Some of those are these 686 00:47:40,632 --> 00:47:43,711 one time projects that we'll talk about next month, um, 687 00:47:43,711 --> 00:47:45,411 but the bulk of the budget is kind of in 688 00:47:45,411 --> 00:47:48,131 the operational and maintenance space when we're talking about different 689 00:47:48,152 --> 00:47:51,971 topics. They're coming with Presentations. You know, maybe some of 690 00:47:51,971 --> 00:47:54,371 them will be sort of on this list or a 691 00:47:54,371 --> 00:47:57,731 specific one - time projects or projects that last for, 692 00:47:57,731 --> 00:48:00,671 you know, a few different years, aka Capital Projects. But 693 00:48:00,671 --> 00:48:02,291 I would say most of our things that we're doing 694 00:48:02,392 --> 00:48:07,411 are kind of in our, you know, everyday operational maintenance, 695 00:48:07,411 --> 00:48:09,811 um, budget. And those are, that's kind of where the 696 00:48:09,832 --> 00:48:13,171 bulk of our, you know, our funds and attention is, 697 00:48:13,211 --> 00:48:15,331 is on. So just because you see something on this 698 00:48:15,352 --> 00:48:18,051 list, that's not, you know, that might just for one 699 00:48:18,051 --> 00:48:20,611 reason or another, it's come up as, you know, in 700 00:48:20,611 --> 00:48:23,251 this category, but it doesn't represent the whole of what 701 00:48:23,291 --> 00:48:28,451 we're doing, you know, or, or kind of represent the, 702 00:48:28,451 --> 00:48:31,091 you know, the entirety of the approaches that we're using, 703 00:48:31,091 --> 00:48:33,171 you know, trails, for example. Boy, we'll be doing a 704 00:48:33,171 --> 00:48:34,611 lot of trail maintenance and a lot of work there 705 00:48:35,112 --> 00:48:37,011 more than just the couple things that are on that 706 00:48:37,011 --> 00:48:40,451 list. So it's just something that I've been learning and 707 00:48:40,491 --> 00:48:43,171 still learning as I've, um, coming to this role in 708 00:48:43,171 --> 00:48:44,291 the last five months. And I just want to share 709 00:48:44,312 --> 00:48:49,144 them with you. We're in celebration mode in some ways. 710 00:48:49,144 --> 00:48:54,904 We are really looking forward to, um, on Sunday, the 711 00:48:54,925 --> 00:48:58,504 volunteer picnic. So I think you all may receive that 712 00:48:58,605 --> 00:49:03,144 invitation. Um, perhaps you're able to come, um, it'll be 713 00:49:03,144 --> 00:49:05,784 great to be able to interact with our many, many, 714 00:49:05,824 --> 00:49:10,024 many volunteers. I think we have 140 RSVPs. And those 715 00:49:10,205 --> 00:49:15,144 folks are incredible. Um, you know, it's like the bulk 716 00:49:15,144 --> 00:49:17,384 of our workforce. You know, they're out there. It's the 717 00:49:17,405 --> 00:49:20,984 community partnership that we really enjoy. And they're doing great 718 00:49:21,085 --> 00:49:26,184 work on a number of different topics sectors, uh, lines 719 00:49:26,184 --> 00:49:30,024 of work. And, you know, open space really couldn't be 720 00:49:30,045 --> 00:49:33,224 what it is today without, you know, the enormous effort 721 00:49:33,264 --> 00:49:35,624 of our community and our volunteers. So we're excited to 722 00:49:35,664 --> 00:49:40,645 celebrate them. Last week and this week, we had Walker 723 00:49:40,826 --> 00:49:45,285 Ranch School Days programs and over 200 school kids came, 724 00:49:45,285 --> 00:49:48,625 uh, which was fantastic. Wonderful to have them out. Um, 725 00:49:48,625 --> 00:49:53,165 we've got, uh, coming up on Sunday, October 4th. If 726 00:49:53,165 --> 00:49:56,085 you've ever dreamed of, you know, participating in like field 727 00:49:56,085 --> 00:49:58,485 of dreams now is your chance. Uh, we have the 728 00:49:58,586 --> 00:50:01,205 vintage baseball game. I don't know if you've ever seen 729 00:50:01,205 --> 00:50:03,685 this before, but I think you have to wear like 730 00:50:04,506 --> 00:50:08,085 baggy uniforms and really be out of part. So if 731 00:50:08,125 --> 00:50:10,405 you'd like to take part or even just witness and 732 00:50:10,445 --> 00:50:13,845 celebrate, um, that'll be at the Walker Ranch homestead on 733 00:50:13,885 --> 00:50:17,685 Sunday, October 4th. Uh, it's also autumn heritage day too. 734 00:50:17,685 --> 00:50:20,845 So a great celebration there and recognition of kind of 735 00:50:20,986 --> 00:50:23,605 the, you know, cultural role that Parks and Open space 736 00:50:23,645 --> 00:50:26,805 is playing. Um, to think about and, and, and preserve 737 00:50:26,845 --> 00:50:32,245 that cultural element cultural heritage and element last Thursday, we 738 00:50:32,426 --> 00:50:36,645 had our AG leaseholder appreciation dinner. We had over 40 739 00:50:36,746 --> 00:50:42,645 leaseholders come, um, one of the more, I guess, populated 740 00:50:43,226 --> 00:50:45,205 events with them in the last few years. It was 741 00:50:45,245 --> 00:50:47,765 wonderful for me to be able to see so many 742 00:50:47,805 --> 00:50:52,245 people, um, you know, share many conversations, learn, you know, 743 00:50:52,266 --> 00:50:55,605 as what you alluded to Christine, you know, learned about, 744 00:50:55,605 --> 00:51:01,185 um, their successes, the very difficult time. And, you know, 745 00:51:01,226 --> 00:51:05,025 I guess my takeaway from that is that, you know, 746 00:51:05,025 --> 00:51:09,845 we're, we've got close relationships and we're working together. And, 747 00:51:09,845 --> 00:51:11,925 you know, continue to be open to, you know, many 748 00:51:11,965 --> 00:51:15,605 conversations on, gosh, what's the path forward and a challenging 749 00:51:15,706 --> 00:51:20,085 time and really pleased that we have a unique way 750 00:51:20,186 --> 00:51:24,865 of stewarding our lands and, you know, producing food, you 751 00:51:24,865 --> 00:51:30,165 know, livestock, you know, Hey, in Alfalfa for our community. 752 00:51:30,205 --> 00:51:32,805 It's a, it's an incredible program and a unique way 753 00:51:32,826 --> 00:51:40,466 to engage with folks. Um, but it was great. Just 754 00:51:40,567 --> 00:51:42,866 a reference, I guess, maybe a kind of relative to 755 00:51:42,887 --> 00:51:44,706 this cast stuff. There's a few, you know, things that 756 00:51:44,706 --> 00:51:47,186 we're doing, you know, that don't fall on that arena. 757 00:51:47,186 --> 00:51:50,526 So for example, on the trailhead area, we are, uh, 758 00:51:50,967 --> 00:51:54,306 using volunteers to stain a restaurant that runs to a 759 00:51:54,306 --> 00:51:58,386 preserve. We've got fence and gate repairs all over the 760 00:51:58,426 --> 00:52:01,546 place at Hyle at Bold Mountain at Kirk Gardens. We 761 00:52:01,546 --> 00:52:05,406 have ADA concrete upgrades at the Good Hugh House. And 762 00:52:05,447 --> 00:52:10,706 bilingual sign replacements at Batasso Preserve at the Walker Ranch 763 00:52:10,746 --> 00:52:14,946 Loop Trail. We've got some step replacements and just continue 764 00:52:14,946 --> 00:52:17,746 to work on maintaining those trails there. Um, so the 765 00:52:17,786 --> 00:52:20,706 messages allowed a trail maintenance. And, you know, outside of 766 00:52:20,706 --> 00:52:24,946 the specific projects that come forward here, uh, today and 767 00:52:24,967 --> 00:52:33,594 next month as well. We've got, um, also demolition. We 768 00:52:33,594 --> 00:52:37,074 just completed the demolition of the walled and pond fishing 769 00:52:37,175 --> 00:52:41,154 pier. Um, that's been in great need for some time. 770 00:52:41,154 --> 00:52:45,874 And we're, you know, working to, you know, put it 771 00:52:45,874 --> 00:52:47,634 together. It's, I don't know if you've been there recently. 772 00:52:47,634 --> 00:52:50,914 It's kind of been taped off and it's falling apart. 773 00:52:50,914 --> 00:52:52,914 And so we're, we're glad to take care of it. 774 00:52:52,914 --> 00:52:59,166 And, um, look forward to that improvement. I wanted to 775 00:52:59,206 --> 00:53:02,286 note too that, uh, district planning. We've talked about that 776 00:53:02,467 --> 00:53:04,926 a lot. Uh, a lot of movement there. So we 777 00:53:04,966 --> 00:53:08,766 posted the RFP on the 18th of September. It'll close 778 00:53:08,867 --> 00:53:13,406 on the 16th of October. And we into space selecting 779 00:53:13,446 --> 00:53:16,506 the consultant and executing the contract itself by the end 780 00:53:16,506 --> 00:53:19,786 of this calendar year. And the kickoff and, you know, 781 00:53:19,786 --> 00:53:23,006 maybe January, February of 2027. And then the whole process 782 00:53:23,107 --> 00:53:26,206 starts there. So, um, you know, we're waiting on those 783 00:53:26,307 --> 00:53:31,006 consultants to figure out how we can, um, engage POSEC 784 00:53:31,267 --> 00:53:34,586 on and the community, um, to better engage and, um, 785 00:53:34,627 --> 00:53:36,686 kind of form those, those groups that we've been discussing 786 00:53:37,747 --> 00:53:43,546 and really looking forward to deeply, more deeply engaging. You 787 00:53:43,546 --> 00:53:45,646 all and the community in that planning process. It's going 788 00:53:45,646 --> 00:53:48,646 to be, uh, a good lift and a lot of 789 00:53:48,646 --> 00:53:51,006 work, but, uh, we're thrilled about it. I think the 790 00:53:51,027 --> 00:53:54,926 concept and then, you know, actually tackling the specific area 791 00:53:55,107 --> 00:53:59,057 for this peak to peak area. Excuse me, Jason. Yeah. 792 00:53:59,057 --> 00:54:01,777 And you're talking about the regional planning. That's right. Instead 793 00:54:01,777 --> 00:54:04,937 of the individual. That's correct. Yes. Parcel plan. Yes. So 794 00:54:04,937 --> 00:54:09,457 we're kicking off the consultant. Hopefully again signed in mobilized. 795 00:54:11,106 --> 00:54:13,385 Say end of the year slash early next year. And 796 00:54:13,385 --> 00:54:17,005 then beginning the detailed planning process specifically first for that 797 00:54:17,346 --> 00:54:23,565 peak to peak district. That's kind of, um, we'll call 798 00:54:23,565 --> 00:54:31,555 it hilly mountain ish southwest Boulder County. I think. Heidi 799 00:54:31,656 --> 00:54:36,535 might. Be greater in that area. Thank you. Um, and, 800 00:54:36,535 --> 00:54:38,775 uh, yeah, we're looking forward to get going on that. 801 00:54:38,775 --> 00:54:40,775 And what I'm most excited about, I think is kind 802 00:54:40,775 --> 00:54:44,775 of uniquely engaging POSAC to get your expertise work together 803 00:54:44,796 --> 00:54:48,535 with community and go forward from there. So we'll iron 804 00:54:48,535 --> 00:54:51,415 out that exact process as we move forward and, and, 805 00:54:51,415 --> 00:54:55,105 and bring the consultant on board. Um, and then finally 806 00:54:55,286 --> 00:54:59,025 at the fairgrounds, um, we're thrilled to have, uh, selected 807 00:54:59,046 --> 00:55:01,905 a contractor to begin work on replacing the exhibit building 808 00:55:01,926 --> 00:55:04,465 roof. This building is one of the most used buildings 809 00:55:04,566 --> 00:55:08,065 at the fairgrounds and the repair allows to continue events 810 00:55:08,105 --> 00:55:11,185 such as quilting shows, roller derpy events and much, much 811 00:55:11,185 --> 00:55:14,945 more, um, so we're looking forward to an improved roof 812 00:55:14,945 --> 00:55:19,197 there. And, uh, the work that'll begin. Sorry, Jason. I 813 00:55:19,197 --> 00:55:22,521 have a quick question about that. Lauren Kelso. When is 814 00:55:22,542 --> 00:55:25,401 that supposed to happen and will there be disruption to 815 00:55:25,422 --> 00:55:28,623 sort of services at the fairgrounds. I'm going to call 816 00:55:28,644 --> 00:55:32,223 my colleague Jarrett Roberts to help you out. Sheer it. 817 00:55:33,201 --> 00:55:39,941 Today's your day. Jared Roberts Community amend his deputy director. 818 00:55:39,941 --> 00:55:43,061 I should just add up front today. Um, we, we've 819 00:55:43,061 --> 00:55:45,221 been working with Public Works. Public works is another department 820 00:55:45,242 --> 00:55:48,261 that's actually running the contract. And then we have a 821 00:55:48,261 --> 00:55:51,221 vendor selected. We have what are called blackout dates that 822 00:55:51,261 --> 00:55:53,861 were built into the contract that the contractor has to 823 00:55:53,901 --> 00:55:57,541 work rounds. There's less disruption of services. Um, the plan 824 00:55:57,581 --> 00:55:59,941 is for them not to be working while quilt shows 825 00:55:59,941 --> 00:56:01,861 and other things are going on. Um, but I will 826 00:56:01,861 --> 00:56:04,181 say it's getting pushed close to the end of the 827 00:56:04,181 --> 00:56:06,181 year. So we're, we're hoping that they can get on 828 00:56:06,282 --> 00:56:08,021 it really quick and get in there and work in 829 00:56:08,061 --> 00:56:10,901 between events. Um, we do have time periods when a 830 00:56:10,901 --> 00:56:12,581 lot of the events are on weekends. And so they 831 00:56:12,581 --> 00:56:15,461 might be able to work Monday through Thursday and then 832 00:56:15,461 --> 00:56:17,861 have to like close up and make it passable for 833 00:56:17,901 --> 00:56:21,112 that little period of time over the weekend. Great. Thanks. 834 00:56:21,373 --> 00:56:23,672 I don't know much about quilting, but the Boulder County 835 00:56:23,693 --> 00:56:26,072 winter farmers market is one of my favorite things to 836 00:56:26,072 --> 00:56:29,512 do. So I know that happens there as well. Is 837 00:56:29,512 --> 00:56:38,088 that self - interested question. And then finally, um, I 838 00:56:38,088 --> 00:56:41,928 think, uh, Nick Kid sent out some information about an 839 00:56:41,928 --> 00:56:44,888 upcoming field trip to Las Barakas. We're looking forward to 840 00:56:44,928 --> 00:56:48,088 that. We also plan to organize this long awaited trip 841 00:56:48,109 --> 00:56:51,348 to, uh, to that peak to peak area. And, um, 842 00:56:51,709 --> 00:56:54,488 we'll providing more, we'll be providing more details when we've 843 00:56:54,488 --> 00:56:57,333 got that all teed up and put together. Yeah. And 844 00:56:57,333 --> 00:57:00,213 I think that's it from, from, from my side and 845 00:57:00,213 --> 00:57:04,213 updates, um, but welcome any additional comments or questions you 846 00:57:04,253 --> 00:57:11,439 might have. Uh, Vicky. Lawrence POSAC, Jason, I should have 847 00:57:11,620 --> 00:57:15,839 done this during POSAC comments. Can we get an update? 848 00:57:15,839 --> 00:57:17,519 At least I'm curious. And I don't think I've missed 849 00:57:17,519 --> 00:57:19,679 something. Can we get an update on the cardinal mill 850 00:57:19,780 --> 00:57:21,999 and what happened with water quality there and what they've 851 00:57:21,999 --> 00:57:24,879 done and what's been resolved. I would just like to 852 00:57:24,919 --> 00:57:27,439 hear what has happened with that because it was such 853 00:57:27,439 --> 00:57:31,819 a big issue last year. Yeah, absolutely. Um, so that 854 00:57:31,859 --> 00:57:34,279 doesn't happen now. Or necessarily need to happen now. I'm 855 00:57:34,279 --> 00:57:36,779 just saying in the future that that would be something 856 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,019 to be nice to have on our agenda, in my 857 00:57:39,019 --> 00:57:42,329 opinion. Absolutely. Well noted. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you 858 00:57:42,350 --> 00:57:49,712 for your interest. Anyone else from POSAC for Jason. Okay. 859 00:57:49,813 --> 00:57:55,813 Jason, thank you. Okay. So now, um, you may be 860 00:57:55,813 --> 00:58:01,173 aware that the County Commissioners have reinstated a period in 861 00:58:01,173 --> 00:58:08,053 which members of the public can comment on any topic, 862 00:58:08,053 --> 00:58:14,373 not necessarily limited to items on the agenda tonight. And, 863 00:58:14,373 --> 00:58:17,013 um, I know I thank the commissioners for, um, allowing 864 00:58:17,194 --> 00:58:21,093 that. I do have an introduction that I need to 865 00:58:21,274 --> 00:58:26,318 read. POSSAC will now receive general comment for up to 866 00:58:26,419 --> 00:58:31,478 30 minutes, which each speaker limited to three minutes. We 867 00:58:31,478 --> 00:58:34,718 ask that members of the public focus their comments and 868 00:58:34,758 --> 00:58:40,878 feedback on matters within POSAC's authority under its bylaws, including 869 00:58:41,139 --> 00:58:46,558 topics listed on tonight's agenda, open space LAND acquisition and 870 00:58:46,598 --> 00:58:52,798 dispositions, capital improvement plans and open space management plans and 871 00:58:52,838 --> 00:58:58,078 policies. If comments are made on matters outside of POSAC's 872 00:58:58,078 --> 00:59:01,918 authority, the committee will not be able to address or 873 00:59:02,019 --> 00:59:06,230 take action on those concerns. We encourage members of the 874 00:59:06,491 --> 00:59:11,990 public who wish to comment on matters outside POSAC scope 875 00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:16,310 to participate in one of the board of County Commissioners 876 00:59:16,411 --> 00:59:20,470 two monthly public comment sessions where those matters can be 877 00:59:20,651 --> 00:59:25,270 brought directly to the elected board. Thank you for participation 878 00:59:25,691 --> 00:59:29,990 and for helping us ensure that POSAC's time remains focused 879 00:59:30,030 --> 00:59:36,069 on matters within our established roles. So Nick, do we 880 00:59:36,069 --> 00:59:43,000 have anybody registered in the, uh, hearing room today. Haven't 881 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,280 seen any registrations come through. Do we have anybody in 882 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,240 the hearing room who wants to, uh, make a public 883 00:59:49,261 --> 00:59:55,218 comment. And I do not see any hands raised. Uh, 884 00:59:55,339 --> 00:59:58,900 next, do we have anybody online. Oh, wait a second 885 00:59:59,001 --> 01:00:04,291 for anybody online. To use the raise hand feature. I 886 01:00:04,291 --> 01:00:09,205 don't see any raised hands. Okay. Thank you. So that 887 01:00:09,626 --> 01:00:14,600 concludes all of our agenda items. So, uh, POSAC, thank 888 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,920 you for, um, your interaction with staff and staff. Thank 889 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,480 you for your presentation and answers. And we are adjourned.