1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,360 Yes. 2 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,160 >> Yeah. So, essentially this is Robert's 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,240 purchases and Cory's maintenance and 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,720 purchases as well. It makes up that $13 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,960 million. 6 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,000 Um, so next slide, Adam is proposed 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 elementary school debt payments. We need 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,840 a loan to build these schools. We don't 9 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,760 have $55 million in reserve to build the 10 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,800 schools. We need a loan. So, I'll talk 11 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,519 about the detail of that later. $4.4 12 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:27,119 million. 13 00:00:27,119 --> 00:00:31,039 In my conversations with lenders, it's a possibility they want us to put 14 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:33,600 essentially a reserve fund in case of 15 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,680 non-payment and they want us to 16 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,520 potentially have about a $4.5 million 17 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,000 reserve fund established. 18 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,360 It's kind of like when, for example, 19 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,280 when I built my house, that construction 20 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,320 loan, the bank asked me to put a large 21 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,360 sum of money, $30, $40,000 into their 22 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,640 bank that they held that I couldn't 23 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,520 access until my loan was paid off. Same 24 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,160 concept. It's our money. they can't use 25 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,760 it, but they want to hold in reserve in 26 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,840 case we non-perform our loan. Not going 27 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:00,800 to happen, but that's part of the 28 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,280 unwritten process at the bank. I'm 29 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,600 working with them on that to hopefully 30 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,960 not have that, and I think I made 31 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:09,200 progress on that, but this is worst case 32 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:17,270 scenario. 33 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,479 I was asking a question about um can you 34 00:01:20,479 --> 00:01:22,240 tell me again what loan we're talking 35 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,080 about for the 36 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,240 >> for the Discovery Elementary and West 37 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,880 Tremont elementary school builds 38 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,640 >> total amount of that 39 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,040 >> about $55 million. 40 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,560 I'll have a slide on that. I'll go into 41 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,510 that detail at a later point here. 42 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,880 uh secure vestables. So HB84 back in 43 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,280 2003 required 44 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,280 uh school districts in any school really 45 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,680 to secure their front entrances called a 46 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,200 secure vestible, a place where they can 47 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,720 contain visitors that can't get into the 48 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,159 main part of the building without 49 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:57,200 verifying their identity uh and be 50 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,759 basically a secure area. Uh we have some 51 00:01:59,759 --> 00:02:02,079 schools that are challenging to to 52 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:03,680 construct those that require significant 53 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,840 capital investments. We're forecasting 54 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,560 about $2.6 million. We haven't designed 55 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,160 those yet. That's just our best guess 56 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,599 based on what we know might need to 57 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:13,599 happen. 58 00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:15,920 Um, security sewer preventive 59 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:17,680 maintenance. Right now, we're working 60 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,920 with our construction managers to 61 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:21,520 inspect all our sewer lines with a 62 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,920 camera, determine where they might be 63 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:26,800 failure points. And this is to fix those 64 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,680 failure points so later on during school 65 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,920 hours or in the future we don't have 66 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:33,280 broken lines. This is preventing the 67 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,959 maintenance. kind of like taking your 68 00:02:34,959 --> 00:02:36,239 car to the mechanic and have them do a 69 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:38,800 once over and check everything that 70 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,200 needs to be lubed or replaced, tires, 71 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,360 oil, uh, washer fluid, all those things. 72 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:44,319 That's what we're doing for our sewer 73 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:46,400 system to prevent that. Yes. 74 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,560 >> Does that amount does that amount 75 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,280 include um just finding out or does that 76 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,120 include the maintenance? 77 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,400 >> This is the repair. So, the finding out 78 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,680 we're doing right now in this fiscal 79 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,519 year with existing budgets. 80 00:02:59,519 --> 00:03:02,400 >> Okay. Thanks. 81 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,560 Um then next we have air conditioning 82 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,480 installation. Now I have detail on these 83 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,080 line items in different slides, but this 84 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,360 is an overview. Um $5.1 million to air 85 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,640 condition the remaining parts of our 86 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:14,080 school district. So every building has 87 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,400 air conditioning. We know that was a a 88 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,000 um priority for the public in our 89 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,840 surveys. So we're putting forward 90 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,959 existing capital funds to do that. 91 00:03:22,959 --> 00:03:25,040 Uh school bus purchases. So we refresh 92 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,599 our school bus fleet as buses age out. 93 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:30,239 Currently, we're doing about a million3 94 00:03:30,239 --> 00:03:35,519 to a million5 per year. So, this is that line item for that those purchases. 95 00:03:35,519 --> 00:03:36,959 Then, we take the older buses, we go 96 00:03:36,959 --> 00:03:39,280 sell them at auction. A lot of times we 97 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,319 get 8 $10,000 for a school bus. Not a 98 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:44,400 lot. We use them till they till their 99 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,560 maintenance costs more to operate than 100 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,920 it is for us to buy a new school bus. 101 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,840 A biggest thing on school buses, the 102 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,000 problem is emissions items. So, they're 103 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,159 all diesel vehicles. So, the diesel 104 00:03:56,159 --> 00:03:58,159 particulate filters and the diesel 105 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:00,799 exhaust fluid uh system are very costly 106 00:04:00,799 --> 00:04:02,319 to replace. So, when we get to that 107 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:04,239 point where we're looking at a 40 or 108 00:04:04,239 --> 00:04:06,640 $50,000 repair in parts, it's that time 109 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,000 to replace that bus. 110 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,920 Um, district vehicle purchases. 111 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,599 Currently, we don't have a plan for 112 00:04:13,599 --> 00:04:15,680 purchasing district vehicles as they age 113 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,600 out. And this is for what we call our 114 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,639 white fleet suburbans, vans, cars that 115 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:21,840 are used around our district to 116 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:24,000 transport students and staff for their 117 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,080 different responsibilities. Um, as I 118 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,120 mentioned earlier, we have some 119 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,759 suburbans that are 200,000 miles. That's 120 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:31,360 pretty that's pretty high for a vehicle 121 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,840 that depends on to transport students 122 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:36,400 around the state. So, as these age out, 123 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,720 we will buy new vehicles, sell the old 124 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,800 ones at auction, but this is a line item 125 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,880 to to purchase those as we need 126 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,950 throughout the year. 127 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,400 Um, Bay River High School improvements. 128 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,150 >> Oh, you have a question? 129 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,759 » I was just curious if that was the same 130 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:58,800 budget for the driver's ed cars or 131 00:04:58,800 --> 00:04:59,680 >> It could be. 132 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,400 >> Oh, yeah. 133 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,440 >> Yeah. So, we can um move driver's ed 134 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,919 cars into the fleet and buy new driver's 135 00:05:05,919 --> 00:05:08,479 ed cars. We try and use these vehicles 136 00:05:08,479 --> 00:05:09,759 as much as we can till they start 137 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:12,160 costing us money extra for maintenance 138 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,800 or we feel like they're unsafe. So, we 139 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,960 try and for our larger vehicles are 140 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,280 trucks that are in CTE or maintenance 141 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:21,600 vehicles, they're about 150,000 miles 142 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,600 that we start to move them on. Other 143 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,120 vehicles, the sweet spots right about 144 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,880 100,000 miles where they still have 145 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,120 decent amount of value, but they're not 146 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,400 starting to fall apart so much need 147 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,800 maintenance. 148 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,479 >> Just a question or an answer about 149 00:05:34,479 --> 00:05:36,479 driver's ed cars. We used to have a a 150 00:05:36,479 --> 00:05:39,440 state uh grant that brought about 151 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,960 $60,000 152 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,960 uh annually and that grant was 153 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,000 eliminated. And so we would buy about 154 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,080 two cars and kind of replace the oldest 155 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,320 two. And so that would be kind of the 156 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,880 rotation. So now that that's gone, then 157 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,199 we're going to have to find a way to run 158 00:05:57,199 --> 00:06:00,560 them, sell them, and use some general 159 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,950 funds to kind of help that. 160 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,230 12 161 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,759 13. 162 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:12,560 We're at 13. 163 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,160 >> Another thing about driver's ed vehicles 164 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,280 that they have some special equipment 165 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:18,000 inside them that about 10 to $15,000 166 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,560 extra for the passenger side brake and 167 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,680 things like that. There's other things 168 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,199 that go into those vehicles. 169 00:06:25,199 --> 00:06:27,600 >> I mean, I I learned to drive without the 170 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,520 passenger side brake, but I'm sure most 171 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,400 today they appreciate it. 172 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,280 All right. Um, playground budget again, 173 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:38,080 4,000 five $500,000 174 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,759 total expenditures and most these are 175 00:06:39,759 --> 00:06:46,390 onetime expenditures are $39 million. 176 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:57,120 » So, the high school, 177 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,639 >> we'll get to that. I have a slide for 178 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:02,070 that. 179 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,240 This is this is a we've not voted. 180 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,479 >> No, this is a proposal for us to 181 00:07:08,479 --> 00:07:10,240 discuss. 182 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:10,560 >> Right. 183 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:17,830 >> Yes. 184 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,199 » I think when I met with you the Bear 185 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:20,240 Ridge High School improvements haven't 186 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,840 been fleshed out yet, so that wasn't on 187 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,840 there. That probably is new for you. 188 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,000 >> And that's the same for all of us. 189 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,029 >> Yeah. 190 00:07:29,039 --> 00:07:30,960 So budgeted fund balances question mark 191 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,800 because we don't have a budget yet. When 192 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,240 we pass that budget in June, we'll have 193 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,960 a number there. Um estimated funding 194 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,280 balance based on this work here is $14 195 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,080 million. Remember we have $4.5 million 196 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,639 set aside for debt reserve. So really it 197 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:47,039 will be about $18 million. 198 00:07:47,039 --> 00:07:48,400 Um I'm I'm pretty sure that's what we'll 199 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,160 end up at. I don't think we'll have to 200 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,390 have that debt reserve. 201 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,840 So, our fund balance history in 2020, I 202 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,639 went back to there. $23.8 million is 203 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:03,520 what our fund balance was there. In 21 204 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,440 went to $31 million. What happened in 205 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,960 21? 206 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,759 We got a loan for Golden Spike. So, the 207 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:13,280 money got got deposited there. Um, so 208 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,800 that went up, but it's earmarked for 209 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,120 construction only. Then we built Golden 210 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,960 Spike and it went down to $17.5 million. 211 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,000 Golden Spike was a $15 million loan. The 212 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,720 $25 million build when you factor in all 213 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,960 what we call FFN fixtures, furnishings, 214 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,319 and equipment that goes inside the 215 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:32,240 building. All your school lunch stuff, 216 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,719 all your desk, your chairs, computers, 217 00:08:34,719 --> 00:08:37,519 um furniture in the office, all that. 218 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:40,719 And that total bill was $25 million. 219 00:08:40,719 --> 00:08:43,039 So, we did about $10 million out of our 220 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:48,070 regular fund balance and 15 from alone. 221 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:58,470 » Any other questions? 222 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,480 uh West Treemont, we're we'll be about 223 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,920 nine years later by the time we start 224 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,440 construction. 225 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,920 So, great question. So, that cost to 226 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,640 build that school um as designed in 2017 227 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:18,720 was $17 million. No, it's 20 2021 when 228 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,600 >> Well, I'm okay. I 229 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:22,959 >> Yeah, I'm trying to compare Westmont to 230 00:09:22,959 --> 00:09:25,519 Westmont then. Same building footprint, 231 00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:27,920 $17 million. Today, same building 232 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,720 footprint, $ 35 to $40 million. We're 233 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,080 not done with engineering yet because 234 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,600 engineering standards change. So, it's a 235 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,040 little that's a wild card we have to 236 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,680 deal with there. 237 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:40,000 Any questions? 238 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,320 Okay. 239 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,519 So our low point was 2022 17.5. Then we 240 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:47,120 started building fund balance as we go 241 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,760 through. Um 242 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,440 one of our bigger jumps right here was 243 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,839 due to there's a tax increase that was 244 00:09:55,839 --> 00:09:58,959 passed by the board in 2023. So we have 245 00:09:58,959 --> 00:10:01,760 a jump here about $4 million. There's a 246 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,200 bigger jump here. Um this mostly due to 247 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,640 construction projects that we that 248 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,240 didn't materialize and additional uh tax 249 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,160 funds mostly from our fee and loo and 250 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,640 other taxing our flat taxes that we get 251 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,240 that aren't part of the property tax 252 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,430 calculation. 253 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,800 So then we're going to end up 254 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,560 potentially 255 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:24,800 in end of this year end next year about 256 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,640 $14 million if we do all these projects. 257 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,399 really 18 million when you factor in the 258 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:32,160 debt service reserve, but I'm 259 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,680 forecasting for worst case scenario 260 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:40,310 here. You have any questions on this? 261 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,160 » Is there an amount we're supposed to 262 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,160 have recommended amount? 263 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,279 >> There's not. 264 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:46,720 And that's been a question 265 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,920 amongst business administrators across 266 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,079 the state asking what is your 267 00:10:50,079 --> 00:10:51,839 recommended policy? What is there a 268 00:10:51,839 --> 00:10:53,279 policy on your board for how much 269 00:10:53,279 --> 00:10:56,160 percentage of cost you have in here? And 270 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,959 there's not because 271 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:01,600 districts are usually doing construction 272 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,160 or maintenance projects across the year 273 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,680 and their maintenance schedule or 274 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:07,680 construction schedule may vary. So when 275 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:10,800 you sell a bond or you borrow money, it 276 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,480 goes into this fund. So it may look like 277 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,959 a huge balance like we had in 21 $31 278 00:11:14,959 --> 00:11:17,360 million, but half of that was earmarked 279 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,200 for construction. 280 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,839 So it's it's hard to have a recommended 281 00:11:21,839 --> 00:11:23,279 ongoing fund balance in this fund 282 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:25,839 because of that. We could break out to a 283 00:11:25,839 --> 00:11:27,680 different fund and sure we could have a 284 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:29,839 board target but there really isn't a 285 00:11:29,839 --> 00:11:31,600 standard across the state for that 286 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,040 target because this all depends on your 287 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,320 facility and maintenance needs. 288 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,320 >> Yes. Clarification talk about the need 289 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,920 for 290 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,920 the 5%. 291 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:42,720 >> Oh yes 292 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,279 >> I don't know if that's part of it. Um 293 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:47,680 yeah so the general fund balance so 294 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:49,839 operational fund that's basically that's 295 00:11:49,839 --> 00:11:52,079 what our mission is to teach kids all 296 00:11:52,079 --> 00:11:53,760 the funds that support that called 297 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,600 operation or fund 10 fund 10 298 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,560 the targeted balance by the various 299 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:02,560 organizations that I belong to 300 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:05,040 government finance office association uh 301 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,639 gazsby government accounting standards 302 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:09,360 board and various Utah public treasures 303 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,000 association 25% of operational cost 304 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,480 should be saved in the reserve 305 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,519 That's essentially three months 306 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:18,320 operational cost. Yeah. So three months, 307 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,480 one quarter. 308 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,399 Uh that is consistent of what people 309 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:24,639 preach in personal finance. Have three 310 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:27,680 months of expenses saved. Uh for us 311 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:30,320 that's about $32 million. 312 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,160 Uh we ended last year in the general 313 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,440 fund, not listed here, but in the 314 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,000 general fund about $28 million. Pretty 315 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,959 close to that target. Of that $28 316 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:41,360 million, some is earmarked for various 317 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,079 things. For example, we have $3.9 318 00:12:44,079 --> 00:12:48,399 million and we call uh it's a a reserve 319 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:52,079 account the board selects and and funds 320 00:12:52,079 --> 00:12:56,480 $3.9 million. The limit of that is 5% of 321 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,160 your expenditures. We have about 3.9% in 322 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,639 there. This year, if we want to as a 323 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:04,880 board, we can dedicate additional funds 324 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,440 to get to that max 5% in the operations 325 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,079 fund. Other things in there that are 326 00:13:10,079 --> 00:13:13,600 earmarked are uh funds for we call 327 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,079 retirement liabilities about $4.5 328 00:13:16,079 --> 00:13:18,560 million. There's additional funds for 329 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,880 other other dedicated projects such as 330 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,360 curriculum adoptions. We have dedicated 331 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,920 funds for personal uh development in 332 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,240 there. So we have various dedications, 333 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,720 but we have about $12 million in there 334 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,920 that's not earmarked for future 335 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,320 spending. That is just capital savings 336 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,000 for sorry operational savings for when 337 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,760 we have those needs because we know what 338 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,760 our state funding is going to be every 339 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,800 year. Our local funding kind of es and 340 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,320 flows 341 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,720 depending on the payment rate of taxes 342 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,880 in our county. Our county has about a 343 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,079 94% payment rate that's been coming down 344 00:13:54,079 --> 00:13:56,800 in recent years as high as 96. So that 345 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,480 affects how much local money we have 346 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:04,480 coming in. Also uh all our flat fees in L those up e and flow with the 347 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,440 economy we have a recession and we have 348 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,279 consumers not buying vehicles and 349 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:10,959 trailers and all those things that's 350 00:14:10,959 --> 00:14:13,440 going to go down. So we have a fund 351 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,040 balance to take care of those 352 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,240 uncertainty in local tax flows. Also our 353 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,240 federal government at times cuts funding 354 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,680 or redistributes funding or we have 355 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,360 funding decline for different reasons. 356 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,399 For example, in title one, it's based on 357 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:31,120 poverty rates in our county. Those rates 358 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,320 are declining. The 2020 census, our 359 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,199 poverty rate was 9% in our county. The 360 00:14:37,199 --> 00:14:38,959 most recent census data came out on for 361 00:14:38,959 --> 00:14:42,800 2024 year was 6%. So, we had 3% decline 362 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,279 in poverty rates in our county. That 363 00:14:45,279 --> 00:14:48,639 equated to a $250,000 cut in Title One 364 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:52,000 funds. So we have these local savings to 365 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,519 account for those uncertainties that 366 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:57,600 happened throughout the over the years. 367 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Uh questions. 368 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,800 Okay. 369 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,509 Uh questions on fund balance history. 370 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:10,240 Okay. 371 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,519 Uh let's talk about our proposed 372 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:13,040 purchases. So we talked about district 373 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,560 vehicles. We're going to replace older 374 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,120 vehicles to reduce maintenance costs. Uh 375 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,560 school buses. Again, we're going to 376 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,279 replace 18 vehicles on a perox schedule. 377 00:15:21,279 --> 00:15:24,079 Um, buses are a long lead item. We have 378 00:15:24,079 --> 00:15:27,920 some buses that we ordered in 2024 379 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,560 that have not been delivered yet. 380 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,040 We're still waiting on them. 381 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,639 So, that's why we have maintained this 382 00:15:34,639 --> 00:15:36,160 budget here to periodically order buses 383 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,199 so we know when they come in, they're 384 00:15:37,199 --> 00:15:41,120 available for use because they're not a common item. They're not like F-150s 385 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,279 that you build millions a year. They're 386 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:44,880 but not quite custom order, but it takes 387 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,959 a while. is only a few manufacturers, 388 00:15:46,959 --> 00:15:49,360 mostly Bluebird and International make 389 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,759 buses and so there's only two 390 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:54,320 manufacturers and it's it's a longer 391 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,949 time to get these buses 392 00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:00,560 um secure vestable. So here's the detail 393 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,560 on that. Uh with Corey uh and DWA, our 394 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,560 construction manager, we estimated what 395 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,240 we're going to have to do, what we need 396 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,519 to So we need about uh 100,000 for Bay 397 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:15,120 River High School. We need about uh 398 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,240 $500,000 for Box Elder High School and 399 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,519 Box Elder Middle School. It's about $2 400 00:16:21,519 --> 00:16:23,440 million because right now the office is 401 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,079 way down the hall. So to move that and 402 00:16:26,079 --> 00:16:27,759 pro and create additional space for 403 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:29,759 secure vestables in front will take some 404 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:34,079 funds. Um Corey is here to talk about 405 00:16:34,079 --> 00:16:35,839 this if we have questions on that for 406 00:16:35,839 --> 00:16:44,949 Corey. 407 00:16:44,959 --> 00:16:47,440 Uh not for this state is the state 408 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,040 funding helping because they're 409 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:49,920 mandating. 410 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:58,150 >> No. 411 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,639 » And how long are we thinking that will 412 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:03,600 take? We well this if we approve these 413 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,640 projects that depends on the capacity of 414 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,959 local contractors we would have to go 415 00:17:08,959 --> 00:17:10,559 through especially for the middle school 416 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:13,280 design process architects be involved 417 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,559 and go through that process. It's a 418 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:15,919 smaller design process but we still have 419 00:17:15,919 --> 00:17:17,839 to go through that process. The deadline 420 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:20,880 for having these in place is 2034. 421 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,880 They gave us a long lead time notifying 422 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,079 hey we're not going to help you with 423 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:26,559 these construction costs. So please plan 424 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:29,039 on them. And so that's again part of our 425 00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:30,320 capital balance is a plan for these 426 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:35,510 long-term construction projects. 427 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,960 » We would like to do it sooner than 428 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:37,919 later. 429 00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:40,320 >> Yes. Yes. Yes. There are some safety 430 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,799 concerns that we like to address so not 431 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:44,000 everybody can just walk in the building 432 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:53,830 and not be noticed. 433 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,120 » Yes. Yes. But it is a 434 00:17:57,120 --> 00:18:00,000 >> it is. 435 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,799 And this is uh I'm not sure what year 436 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:04,480 this building was designed to melt, but 437 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,720 I know it was decades ago that this was 438 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,720 not even a consideration. 439 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,039 My my son goes to Weber High and they 440 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:13,039 have the same problem. They you walk 441 00:18:13,039 --> 00:18:14,480 into that school, they have a secure 442 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,720 vestible, but the office is way far away 443 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,880 and you walk into a giant courtyard that 444 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,120 spoken hub. So for them to secure it in 445 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:22,559 a meaningful way would be difficult as 446 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:24,480 well. So, we're not unique to the 447 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,640 problem that to comply with the law, 448 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,160 it's going to take significant amounts 449 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,789 of money. 450 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:35,679 Uh, oh, I can go back to this one here. 451 00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:37,360 Sewer maintenance. Those are our 452 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:40,400 estimates. We don't based on a 453 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,320 historical cost and expenditures, for 454 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,960 example, the fix the lake view problems 455 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,840 about $120,000 this year. We don't know 456 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,200 what we're going to find. These are just 457 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,840 ballparks of what we think we might need 458 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,320 and we'll know better about that um 459 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,880 probably closer to July. Cory, 460 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,600 >> hopefully it's just 461 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,520 >> okay. 462 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,240 Well, that's basically July. 463 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,990 >> Okay. July. 464 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,720 » Questions on the maintenance? 465 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:11,440 Yes. 466 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,000 >> Just that 467 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,520 >> is that like you in addition to what we 468 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,840 are expend. 469 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,679 >> Yes. So, we fixed the what was broken, 470 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:21,120 but we didn't fix what could break in 471 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:24,789 the future. 472 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:27,280 » Uh, air conditioning of the $5.1 473 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,240 million. Here's our breakdown. 474 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,240 Um, you can see Bear River High School 475 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,400 is the biggest cost. We have the 476 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,360 equipment. Um, I'm not We bought it 477 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:40,320 during the pandemic, but we didn't have 478 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,440 funds or or I wasn't here. I don't know 479 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:44,799 why we didn't install, but I know that 480 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:47,919 funding was an issue back then. And so 481 00:19:47,919 --> 00:19:50,480 that's an estimate there and know we 482 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,919 haven't gotten very far on that one. So 483 00:19:51,919 --> 00:19:53,679 we're estimating about $5.1 million for 484 00:19:53,679 --> 00:19:56,240 all these projects. Caveat is we don't 485 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,760 have to dedicate all these funds in this 486 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,720 year. We have we can have some timeline 487 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,080 to do that, but that would be a priority 488 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,400 the board establishes. 489 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,549 >> This year we already 490 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:10,080 the current one we're in. We decide we 491 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,919 dedicated 1.5. This is in addition to 492 00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:15,510 that 1.5. 493 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,360 So really that 1.5 will roll over to 494 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:18,320 this year because we're not going to get 495 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,720 it done this year. So that 1.5 will come 496 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,520 back into the fund balance. 497 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,960 It's not part of this. 498 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,320 >> And when we approve that, we just 499 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,200 decided we take a chunk that line item 500 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,400 when we approve that 501 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,600 one or two. 502 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,120 >> Yep. Yep. 503 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,919 >> The 1.5 was only for the middle school 504 00:20:37,919 --> 00:20:40,000 at the time for this year. These are 505 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,990 additions to those. 506 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,159 Yes, this but this is a need here that 507 00:20:46,159 --> 00:20:47,360 we're going to earmark for those things 508 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:49,280 and we'll keep on rolling that forward 509 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,960 according to the board priorities of 510 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,799 when which schools to prioritize and 511 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:57,510 when to do those schools. 512 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,720 Uh playground upgrades $500,000. Here's 513 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,799 a rationale. Replace older playgrounds 514 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:05,360 that pose a safety hazard. Time to time 515 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:06,799 students get injured when a playground 516 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:10,000 fails. Um broken bones sometimes we want 517 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,159 to prevent that. They're very old in 518 00:21:12,159 --> 00:21:13,760 some places. They're not big enough. 519 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,880 They're antic spaces. We know we have an 520 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,080 overcrowding issue in a lot of 521 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,480 elementary schools. And contributing to 522 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,000 that is our playgrounds don't have 523 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,679 enough space for kids to spread out and 524 00:21:23,679 --> 00:21:25,919 it creates behavior and other incidences 525 00:21:25,919 --> 00:21:28,240 where if we expand our playground spaces 526 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,000 and put newer, more modern playgrounds 527 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,440 in there that hopefully will alleviate 528 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,960 some of those issues. But with the new 529 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,960 playgrounds, do we just on wood chips or 530 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,000 are we getting like the 531 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,360 >> pour in place? 532 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:43,200 >> Does that mean the rubber thingy? 533 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,320 >> Yes. 534 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,240 That is this new standard for 535 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,120 schools. 536 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:48,640 >> Heidi, do you have something to add to 537 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,200 that? 538 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,799 Did a really great job of summarizing 539 00:21:52,799 --> 00:22:00,390 it. 540 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,720 Okay, we do have 250,000. 541 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,320 >> Is your mic on? I think your mic's off. 542 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:06,480 I 543 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,200 >> think we have 250,000 in the budget 544 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,520 annually for ADA playgrounds. So, we are 545 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,919 working through that. Really good news 546 00:22:13,919 --> 00:22:16,080 to hear. There's 500,000 for this summer 547 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,080 to get started on projects because there 548 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,159 is a major discrepancy between the 549 00:22:20,159 --> 00:22:23,200 playground spaces that we have available 550 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,600 um the year and the quality and just the 551 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,360 availability of space to play at North 552 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:29,200 Park and McKinley when you compare it to 553 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,840 Sentry or Discovery or Hton Spike or 554 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,320 Garland. Many of our elementary schools 555 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,200 have a separate play space for our our 556 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,799 younger elementary students and our 557 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:40,320 upper elementary students. And in 558 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,440 addition to that, some of our 559 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,919 playgrounds also have a kindergarten 560 00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:45,520 preschool playground and an ADA 561 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,679 playground. At both McKinley and North 562 00:22:47,679 --> 00:22:50,480 Park, there's genuinely one little 563 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,000 playground that's smaller than the 564 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,760 center of this space that all 650 kids 565 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,000 get on at one time. And those are really 566 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,799 outdated and old. So that's the initial 567 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:03,520 intent here is to begin with those two 568 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,320 playgrounds and update and expand 569 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,919 increase so that we have less of those 570 00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:10,000 safety hazards to repair some of the 571 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,799 broken stuff. Um make it so that they 572 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:15,760 have a space to separate the K2 and 35 573 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,840 students. That's something we've heard 574 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,640 many many concerns about and 575 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,320 frustrations from our school community 576 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,159 councils and parent communities in both 577 00:23:24,159 --> 00:23:25,919 of those areas over the last three to 578 00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:28,400 four years. So, I think that it's 579 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,600 something that they've really been 580 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,600 pushing for and promoting. This next 581 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,080 year, the ADA playground is being 582 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,880 allocated to um Century Elementary 583 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,440 um because they hold ESY there and they 584 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,960 have functional skills. We've been 585 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,520 alternating north and south end. We're 586 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,080 considering the next one going in that 587 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:54,470 you learn based off of me. 588 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,080 » They'll be started this summer. It 589 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,600 sounds like they won't be able to be 590 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,950 done, right? 591 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,000 » For the ADA of 500 or in addition to 592 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,640 500. 593 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,760 >> Neil's saying in addition, 594 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,760 >> in addition, we wrote a new line item. I 595 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,440 want to say in March or February, I 596 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,120 can't remember which month. We have too 597 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,000 much fun together. 598 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,720 >> When we do 250,000, if we split up 599 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,559 between the two playgrounds and then the 600 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:21,200 board in place itself is about 60,000, 601 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,080 that would leave like 60,000 worth of 602 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,520 equipment. And that is not very much. 603 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,559 It's like one climb on object without 604 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:34,000 slides or space. So 250 between the two 605 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,679 schools just would not provide them with 606 00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:37,520 very much. Yeah. I just wanted like the 607 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,960 context for me. I was like, "Oh, 608 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,360 $250,000 state-of-the-art playground." 609 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,200 But it's it's really not. And when you 610 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,480 split it between two schools and the 611 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,279 pour in place is really an upfront 612 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:49,679 expense for the safety. 613 00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:52,720 I think for context, the Discovery the 614 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,039 new playground at Discovery Elementary 615 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:59,200 ADA compliant is about $165,000. 616 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,080 They're expensive. They're needed and we 617 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,919 need to make them safe and have adequate 618 00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:05,279 space for all our students because 619 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:06,559 recess is a really important part of the 620 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:15,269 elementary experience. 621 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:23,669 an explanation. 622 00:25:23,679 --> 00:25:27,360 » So the poor in place, we have a member 623 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:28,720 on his way and I want to let him know 624 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,039 that he can still come. It's clay is on 625 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:34,640 his way. The poor in place is a risk 626 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,360 issue. It prevents a lot of injuries, 627 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:39,360 serious injuries from falls. The wood 628 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:42,080 chips in the winter time they freeze and 629 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,760 they're hard as rock and they fall and 630 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,080 they hurt people. They often maintained 631 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,120 uh on a regular basis. Astro turf or the 632 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:52,320 turf artificial turf it sometimes gets 633 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,000 wear patterns and wears out fast and has 634 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,159 to be reconditioned. Pour in place 635 00:25:56,159 --> 00:25:57,840 really is the most cost effective at 636 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,760 reducing um uh injuries and being 637 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:12,310 longlasting. 638 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,149 other questions on playgrounds. 639 00:26:16,159 --> 00:26:20,470 Okay. 640 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,159 Uh Boxeller High School. 641 00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:27,120 Um actually, let's skip this for now cuz 642 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:30,240 Clay Tus, vice principal of Box High, is 643 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,919 on his way. 644 00:26:31,919 --> 00:26:34,240 >> Sorry, Bear River High. I'm sorry. Uh so 645 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,240 let's skip these right here. Let's go to 646 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,830 the elementary. 647 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,279 All right. So, construction plans 648 00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:46,720 discover expansion 12 classrooms, 649 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,400 eight are general ed classrooms. These 650 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,919 will eliminate the two portables that we 651 00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:52,159 already have there. Um, we have a 652 00:26:52,159 --> 00:26:54,320 preschool and we have special space as 653 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:59,190 well. Is that accurate, Cory? 654 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,269 » Okay. 655 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:05,520 » Oh, sorry. Net eight, but net of eight 656 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,960 when we take in the portables. 657 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,679 >> Yes. 658 00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:09,760 >> Okay. So, 10 general classrooms, 659 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,840 preschool classrooms, special ed 660 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,960 classrooms. We're going to take some of 661 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,559 our special ed students from other 662 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:16,880 locations that are have a high burden 663 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,520 for special ed, move them over to the 664 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,919 Discovery Elementary to spread out that 665 00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:24,000 population and allow students to attend 666 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,600 closer to the neighborhood schools where 667 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,360 possible. 668 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:28,880 Um, we're going to add additional gym 669 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,159 space because you can't have eat lunch 670 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:34,480 and have gym at the same time. And so we 671 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,000 don't have enough space for that. And so 672 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,520 we're adding additional gym space for 673 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,520 that purpose. So we can separate our 674 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,320 lunchtime from our PE time at and have 675 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,559 them run at the same time. 676 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:46,799 Um additional playground area as well. 677 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:48,240 We're going to have a playground area go 678 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,039 to the north into the field right there. 679 00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:52,240 Not the whole field, but a portion of 680 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,640 Davis Park will become play space for 681 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,240 these students. again with our our um 682 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,399 our aim to increase play spaces, have 683 00:28:00,399 --> 00:28:01,840 adequate spaces for students and 684 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,159 adequate playground uh equipment ADA 685 00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:06,000 compliant for those students that need 686 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,600 that. Um this will add between 180 to 687 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,919 200,000 students. Sorry, not thousand 688 00:28:11,919 --> 00:28:16,159 200 students 180 to 200 students 689 00:28:16,159 --> 00:28:18,960 um total capacity questions on 690 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,600 discovery. 691 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,279 Uh not listed here is we're air 692 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,039 conditioning the building. So, as part 693 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:26,399 of this project, the old part of the 694 00:28:26,399 --> 00:28:27,520 building will receive air conditioning 695 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,200 as long as well as the new part. 696 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,480 Um, cost is about $15 million total 697 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,080 cost. Yes, 698 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:44,159 >> I remember being in there with like the 699 00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:48,159 questions about um updating the 700 00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:50,159 >> controls, 701 00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:53,440 >> fire alarm. Yes. Fire, fire and air 702 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,000 conditioner controls. Yes. 703 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,840 >> Yeah. 704 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,840 Uh, one thing we didn't see coming when 705 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,240 we designed this building, um, this 706 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,840 building doesn't have fire sprinklers in 707 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,480 it. It wasn't required in 1994 when it 708 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,559 was built, now required. So, we're going 709 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:10,080 to have to have fire protection in the 710 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,159 new building and the old building. So, 711 00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:12,960 we're going to have to sprinkle the 712 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,000 whole building. So, that's additional 713 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,080 cost that we weren't con considering 714 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,840 when we started the design process and 715 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,559 RFP process. 716 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:21,760 So we'll bring the whole thing up to 717 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,360 standards including secure vegetables as 718 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,520 well. 719 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,679 Uh West Traymon I think we're about 30 720 00:29:27,679 --> 00:29:40,710 classrooms. Cory is that 721 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,640 » compare? 722 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,799 So, Golden Spike Elementary is 104,000 723 00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:48,799 square ft 724 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:51,200 and this Fremont Elementary would be 725 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,960 85,000 square ft. So, it's about 20,000 726 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,200 square ft smaller. Um, we are about 34 727 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,440 classrooms. 728 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,880 Um, it's one story. 729 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,600 We we have done modifications to the 730 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,240 2017 design so that it is more suitable 731 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,919 for 732 00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:17,120 um some of our populations that need 733 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,679 special accommodations 734 00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:22,320 and as I think I mentioned before also 735 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,760 additional office spaces for admin and 736 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,399 counseling. 737 00:30:28,399 --> 00:30:31,039 Garland is approximately 738 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:33,120 73,000 739 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,200 square feet, I think. So, it's about 740 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,880 10,000 square feet bigger. And back to 741 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,799 Discovery, 742 00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:44,000 that addition is 28,000 square ft. The 743 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,360 current building is 53,000 ft. So, it's 744 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,679 going to put Discovery square footage 745 00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:52,320 somewhere between 746 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,039 the um Garland North 747 00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,279 about 85,000. 748 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:03,110 >> Where's our math teachers? 749 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:21,190 » Somewhere around 80,000. 750 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,000 the middle core or the middle common 751 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,559 areas that they use for 752 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,200 support staff that is not counted as a 753 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,960 classroom. 754 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,919 >> So in these 34 classrooms there's also 755 00:31:33,919 --> 00:31:36,640 support space uh there's conference room 756 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,399 space there's instructional training 757 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:40,080 space. So, we're just talking about 758 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,360 actual student instructional spaces in 759 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,200 that 34 number. 760 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,120 >> Um, one of the things too I just want to 761 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,960 point out with Golden Spike versus 762 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,120 Tmont. Golden Spike will have more 763 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,600 seating for students in the cafeteria. 764 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,600 We'll have more gym seating. So, Golden 765 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,320 Spike is 259 students per cafeteria. 766 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,799 Tmont is 281. The dining or the gym is 767 00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,519 490 seats at Golden Spike, but at Tmont 768 00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:08,960 it will be 624. And then the medium shel 769 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,840 is bigger because we just realized that doesn't work for the number of 770 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,399 students. So those common areas are 771 00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:18,159 going to be bigger to accommodate the 772 00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:21,440 size of the school. 773 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,519 And if you've been in Golden Spike 774 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:25,760 Elementary 775 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,640 and you've been in the Garland Fielding 776 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,279 through Mount Creek Design, 777 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:34,159 this West Tmont Elementary really is a 778 00:32:34,159 --> 00:32:37,120 blend of those two as far as the 779 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,919 classroom wings are, how they function, 780 00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:43,120 and where the gym cafeteria 781 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,000 is kind of connected. It's kind of a 782 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,070 blend of those two designs. 783 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,039 Other questions on West Trmont on the 784 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,600 building design timeline, anything like 785 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,630 that? 786 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:04,549 Okay, 787 00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:06,000 let's talk about the the construction 788 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,399 loan here. So, we have three uh banks 789 00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:12,240 that are helping us out here and we have 790 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,679 three because we need separation of 791 00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:15,279 duties. 792 00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:18,240 So, Zans is our municipal adviser. Uh we 793 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,840 have a contract with them for them to 794 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,399 advise us on these types of scenarios, 795 00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:26,480 borrowings, uh loans, financing. uh they 796 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,360 provide the financing detail every year 797 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,080 for our loans. They're actually the 798 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,279 trustee on our loan for Golden Spike and 799 00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:38,240 also our uh general obligation loan as 800 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,039 well because they are advisor. They 801 00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:43,600 can't be that's new in the past two 802 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,519 years. We signed a contract with them. 803 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:48,480 So when they loaned us funds for Golden 804 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,880 Spike, they are not our adviser. So they 805 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,399 cannot issue us a loan because that'll 806 00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:54,799 be a conflict of interest as an adviser. 807 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:58,240 So they're advising us on this. Bank of 808 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,640 America is our underwriter. In an 809 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,919 advisory capacity, Zans um put out a 810 00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:05,440 solicitation 811 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,280 to various underwriters, other banks for 812 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,359 this project. Um there were three that 813 00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:15,119 responded. Um 814 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:18,079 Bank of America gave us the best terms 815 00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:19,839 between the underwriting, the bond 816 00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:23,359 council fees, and we call the spread. So 817 00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:26,480 spread is the distance between the a the 818 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,599 average market rates called MMD, 819 00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:32,639 municipal market data and that is 820 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:34,879 calculated every day on every loan out 821 00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:38,639 on government debt. Uh mostly state and 822 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:40,800 local government debt. 823 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,679 And so their number of basis points they 824 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,919 wanted to cover the cost of this loan. 825 00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:49,040 Underwriting legal fees was the lowest 826 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,800 amongst the three people who responded, 827 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,800 three banks who responded to this loan. 828 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,879 So they are the winner on basis of a 829 00:34:54,879 --> 00:34:59,359 cost. The Zans Bank also analyzed uh 830 00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:02,160 past performance experience with um 831 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,440 school financing uh deals in the past 832 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,040 and determined that Bank of America in 833 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,440 addition to the cost was the most 834 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,200 experienced and provide us the best 835 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,720 experience for securing this loan. 836 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,680 uh US Bank will be our trustee 837 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,240 because uh Zans can't be the trustee and 838 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,520 when you borrow usually have a third 839 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,440 party that's not the same party doing 840 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,960 the lending as the trustee to receive 841 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,920 the funds and distribute the funds. So 842 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,109 they'll be our trustee on this deal 843 00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:34,800 uh the underwriting and the trustee 844 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,280 part. 845 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,910 >> Okay. So the underwriter 846 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,079 » separation of duties, separation of 847 00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:47,589 conflict of interest. 848 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:50,960 » Okay. So Z is our adviser. 849 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,440 >> So they're like our I I'll compare us to 850 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,359 a mortgage loan. They're our loan our 851 00:35:55,359 --> 00:35:57,920 mortgage officer. Now, when you go get a 852 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,240 mortgage, you generally they have, 853 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:03,839 unless you buy from a in-house bank like 854 00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:06,160 Wells Fargo, Right Mortgages, but you go 855 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,760 to an independent mortgage officer, they 856 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,040 get mortgages from various different um 857 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,160 banks. And so, Bank of America is our 858 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,000 mortgage officer. They're going to look 859 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,520 at our financials. They're going to look 860 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,440 at our credit rating. They're going to 861 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,440 assess our creditworthiness. They're 862 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,560 going to say, "Based on this, here's 863 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,240 your risk and here's what we can get you 864 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:25,839 in the market." So they're going to 865 00:36:25,839 --> 00:36:29,359 guarantee us a certain amount of yield 866 00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:32,480 or proceeds from this loan. 867 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,119 If and so that's that's where they're 868 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,240 coming from. US Bank is a trustee. So 869 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,240 back to mortgages, 870 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,160 generally the person the bank that you 871 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,480 borrow your mortgage from is not who you 872 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,640 pay your mortgage to. The third party 873 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,359 serer. So US Bank is the third party 874 00:36:49,359 --> 00:36:51,440 serer. They'll collect the funds and 875 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,200 distribute the funds and ensure 876 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,440 compliance with the loan requirements 877 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,440 and also with any federal or state 878 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,440 reporting requirements as well. 879 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,800 Currently, Zans acts as the trustee for 880 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,599 our golden spike loan and also for our 881 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:09,200 general obligation bond loan. 882 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,280 >> Which one? 883 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,430 >> Bank of America. 884 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,040 » And we chose them based on experience 885 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:23,829 and on total cost. 886 00:37:23,839 --> 00:37:29,430 Yes, Stephanie. 887 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,280 » Um, I just curious the 4.44% 888 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,079 interest, 889 00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:34,640 >> correct? 890 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,480 >> That's that's the rate we're getting for 891 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,079 this loan. 892 00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:40,560 >> Well, this is quoted on April 1 or about 893 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,440 April 1st. 894 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,599 >> The quoted amount. How how does that 895 00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:46,079 compare to the loan that we could have 896 00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:49,280 had had it not been 897 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,640 Great question. 898 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,359 >> It's probably about the same because the 899 00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:55,280 middle of February is when that process 900 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,160 stopped. We still had a series of 901 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,800 meetings to hold legally before we could 902 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,800 have went out for the loan. We would 903 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,480 have been seeking the same that dollar 904 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,400 amount at this same time right now. 905 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,000 Probably probably in the month of May is 906 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,920 when we would have sold bonds and we 907 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,960 probably would have been at the same 908 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,280 cost. So it it's not the interest rate 909 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,920 that we would have had this time would 910 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,680 not have any different because the time 911 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,320 we started that process in December, we 912 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,920 had zero idea there's going to be a war 913 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,520 in the Middle East. And that's what's 914 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,160 driving interest rates up right now is 915 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:33,910 the war in the Middle East. 916 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,280 » So we have these three banks. Yes. 917 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,760 Involved banks. uh this right here this 918 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,839 interest cost is total interest cost 919 00:38:43,839 --> 00:38:46,320 incurred. So what they they do in 920 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,079 accounting terms they amateurize or 921 00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:50,640 spread off the the cost of issuing the 922 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,680 this loan legal fees uh underwriting 923 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,079 fees credit check fees 924 00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:58,960 across the whole loan term and so the 925 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,920 fees are included in here. All three 926 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,800 banks are included. 927 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,069 >> Correct. 928 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:10,160 » All three are included in the 4.4 929 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,280 interest and in the 4.4 million annual 930 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:13,839 payment. 931 00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:16,400 >> Correct. 932 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,440 >> Is there a way to break them out so we 933 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:19,760 know? 934 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,760 >> Yes. I didn't display that here, but the 935 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,320 total the cost of issuing this loan are 936 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,160 about uh $170,000. 937 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,320 legal costs, underwriting costs, credit 938 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,040 check costs, cost of going to of of 939 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,440 doing all the research. That's what 940 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,599 those costs are. And those are spread 941 00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:38,800 across the life of the loan. We call 942 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,760 them amortized costs. So, we issue a 943 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,440 certain amount to each period of the 944 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,640 loan in each year. So, they get their 945 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,079 money up front, but we pay it back 946 00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:49,680 overtime. 947 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,520 And that's the that's the requirement of 948 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,200 the underwriter. The underwriter pays 949 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,880 all those fees up front for us, and they 950 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,839 get their money overtime back. Other 951 00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:03,040 questions on this process? 952 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,320 >> So, how does this differ from what we 953 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,390 were looking at? 954 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,320 » Uh, it's not a bond and bond rates have 955 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,920 better slightly better interest rates. 956 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,839 It used to be between a general 957 00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:20,960 obligation bond and this type of loan, 958 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,560 there would have been a half percentage 959 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,280 point difference or 50 basis points. 960 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:31,440 that is narrowed to 25 to 30. So the the incentive to seek a general 961 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,880 obligation bond and all that process 962 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,200 goes with it is kind of out the window 963 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,520 because a lot more compliance costs and 964 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,520 timeline to get this type get a general 965 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,240 obligation loan. where this right here 966 00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,079 can be done much quicker and the 967 00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:45,920 additional cost for the risk the banks 968 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,440 incur is much less because a general 969 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,839 obligation is a guaranteed amount 970 00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:54,400 secured by property taxes earmarked only 971 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,640 to repayment of that loan through the 972 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,880 collection of property taxes 973 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,560 underwriters and banks see that as the 974 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,359 most secure form of government debt 975 00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:05,839 because earmark for that and can only be 976 00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:08,160 used for that purpose. This is being 977 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,599 funded by general property tax receipts. 978 00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:13,839 There's not a specific area earmark for 979 00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:16,400 that. So they view that as more risky. 980 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,480 Essentially, if we wanted to, we could 981 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,119 not pay this back and keep our money. 982 00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,520 And so that's why they have a higher 983 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,079 interest rate to account for that risk. 984 00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:27,839 It's kind of like getting a home equity 985 00:41:27,839 --> 00:41:31,200 loan versus a first mortgage. Your first 986 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,440 mortgage is always first repayment and 987 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,960 has a lower interest rate than a home 988 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,030 equity loan. 989 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,359 So the general obligation fund is that 990 00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:44,319 the same as the lease revenue fund? No. 991 00:41:44,319 --> 00:41:46,560 So how is this different from the least 992 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,000 revenue fund? 993 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,079 >> Uh this is a direct lending product to 994 00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:51,920 us. Uh doesn't go through the lease 995 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,319 revenue process. It doesn't have the 996 00:41:54,319 --> 00:41:56,000 same resolutions. It's not a separate 997 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,480 legal entity. In this case, the building 998 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,000 authority for lease revenue bond that 999 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,560 takes it out. So this is a a direct loan 1000 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,920 product. 1001 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,000 So really the difference in the is in 1002 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,560 the legal details of how it's secured 1003 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:18,870 and what is allowed 1004 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,200 as far as how it affects us. There's not 1005 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,160 much difference. I mean there might be a 1006 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,839 talking basis points. So each basis 1007 00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:28,480 point is 01%. 1008 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,319 So there might be five to seven basis 1009 00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:32,319 points difference between this and a 1010 00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:34,800 lease revenue bond. Again, a lease 1011 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,920 revenue bond doesn't have a dedicated 1012 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,839 funding stream because it's not 1013 00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:39,280 generally not voted and approved by the 1014 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,800 taxpayers for a separate myab on your 1015 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,200 taxes. It's funded out of existing tax 1016 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,390 receipts. 1017 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,359 » So with this route, who actually owns 1018 00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:53,359 the buildings? It will there will be we 1019 00:42:53,359 --> 00:42:54,560 essentially it will be like a lease 1020 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,240 revenue where there's a entitlement to 1021 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:02,240 the underwriter Bank of America that we 1022 00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:04,000 lease back from them till the loans paid 1023 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,520 off. It's the same thing with Golden 1024 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,359 Spike. Golden Spike is a is a ground 1025 00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:11,119 lease from Zans and that the we make 1026 00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,839 lease payments to Zans. They hold title 1027 00:43:13,839 --> 00:43:16,640 to it. No different than when you buy a 1028 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,720 car dealership with a loan. the 1029 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:20,640 dealership has a lean on that title. You 1030 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,839 can't sell that that car until your lean 1031 00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:26,720 or your loan is satisfied. So, this is 1032 00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:29,920 no different that we already operate. 1033 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,040 >> How many buildings the past 10 years 1034 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,160 have built using this finance option? 1035 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,319 >> Um, 1036 00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:42,720 Golden Spike and 1037 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:44,960 >> Fielding are the two ones that I'm that 1038 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,079 I know right now that we have 1039 00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:48,319 outstanding. Those are two outstanding 1040 00:43:48,319 --> 00:43:50,400 debt right now. So, general obligation 1041 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,160 bond, which is we used to expand high 1042 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,240 schools back in 2008, is one of our 1043 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,640 loans, and that was a 30-year loan. Um, 1044 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,480 Fielding was also, I think, a 20-year 1045 00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,599 loan. We're going to pay that off this 1046 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:01,359 year. Last payment is this year. And 1047 00:44:01,359 --> 00:44:04,720 then Golden Spike as well. 1048 00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:08,079 >> Like, elementary, Sunrise High School, 1049 00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:09,599 >> those were all fun with existing build 1050 00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,599 uh capital reserves. 1051 00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:13,200 >> The difference between that is the cost 1052 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,200 of building was much less than it is 1053 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,510 today. Other 1054 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,589 questions? 1055 00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:27,520 » Um, I guess my question is this. 1056 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,440 When we 1057 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,560 um received a petition um of 8,000 1058 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,240 people asking us not to go out and do 1059 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,560 this kind of a loan. 1060 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,160 To me it looks like that this is 1061 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,800 the same kind of kind of a finance 1062 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,119 vehicle kind of like a horse of a 1063 00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:49,440 different color. So what are we 1064 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,319 interpreting that the people ask us with 1065 00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:55,760 that petition? 1066 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,640 >> I would say from my perspective as the 1067 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,560 business administrator and financial 1068 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,880 adviser of the board if you will the 1069 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,280 difference here is the amount and the 1070 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,960 projects. 1071 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,040 Um leader I would say the district 1072 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,839 leadership feels that these elementary 1073 00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:14,400 projects are a must need now given the 1074 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,000 growth we've seen from our demographer 1075 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,920 that's forecasted given the building uh 1076 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,839 developments we know are coming and 1077 00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:23,280 given the overcrowding we have in our 1078 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,440 current buildings right now don't feel 1079 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,200 like we are at a luxury of waiting an 1080 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,040 additional 18 months or more to secure 1081 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,680 financing by putting on the ballot begin 1082 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,599 construction we feel this is a need that 1083 00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:40,000 we must address now, not in 18 months. 1084 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,920 So that's I say that's the rationale for 1085 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,400 proposing this and going forward with 1086 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,280 this. 1087 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,680 >> I see that the rationale and and I'm not 1088 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,520 saying I disagree. I'm asking 1089 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,480 specifically the financing vehicle part 1090 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,200 of it. 1091 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,359 Oh, it looks like we're we're going out 1092 00:45:59,359 --> 00:46:01,280 to get financing, which I think the 1093 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,319 petition was asking us not to encumber 1094 00:46:04,319 --> 00:46:06,079 the residents with that kind of a 1095 00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,720 long-term debt. 1096 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:11,520 We're going out with another horse of a 1097 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,920 different color to encumber the 1098 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,880 residents. Again, we're not encumbering 1099 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,119 the residents for any additional funds 1100 00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:20,640 that aren't already secured by local 1101 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,480 property taxes. This is within our local 1102 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,880 property tax budget. I understand that 1103 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,920 there's a public uh opposition to our 1104 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,400 financing. I feel that we have that what 1105 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,560 we were seeking before actually not have 1106 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,440 almost a third 55 million versus 140 1107 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,680 million and red restricted it to 1108 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,839 elementary projects only which has been 1109 00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:43,520 a concern of the residents that has 1110 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,520 expressed to us through the different 1111 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,560 surveys we did and community feedback. 1112 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,160 So yes, it's a different financing 1113 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,560 different different color, but it's it's 1114 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,520 done to address the needs we have right 1115 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,200 now. 1116 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,480 So, would it be possible to um again go 1117 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:09,359 back to the residents and ask them in a 1118 00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:12,160 voted question, I guess, if they would 1119 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,400 support these projects and do it with a 1120 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,680 general obligation bond, which puts the 1121 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,720 power back in the residents rather than 1122 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:24,640 us going forward with these. I'm not 1123 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,480 saying that the projects aren't needed. 1124 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,079 My question is only the funding 1125 00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:29,599 mechanism. 1126 00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:34,720 Um I I just feel like that although we 1127 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:38,640 feel that they're needed, um 1128 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,960 we are I think legally required to 1129 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,560 represent the residents and I think 1130 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,240 they've told us in a couple of different 1131 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,160 ways that they don't want this kind of 1132 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,880 obligation. So I'm just wondering if we 1133 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,319 might be 1134 00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:56,240 stepping over a line that we are 1135 00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:59,119 supposed to represent them first. 1136 00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:00,880 >> So I will answer it in a few different 1137 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,240 ways. First of all, 1138 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:06,079 >> the first question is could we go to a 1139 00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:08,880 voted question on these projects and 1140 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,440 this amount and a and a geo bond 1141 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,520 government bond is possible by the vote 1142 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,599 of the board in by August to approve a 1143 00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:21,520 ballot question for the financing of 1144 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,440 these projects. That is an option the 1145 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,640 board has. By doing so, the soonest that 1146 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,680 we would have the go-ahad from the 1147 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,240 voters would be in November. And then 1148 00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:34,880 we' go through that process again if 1149 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,359 it's through a lease revenue process to 1150 00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:41,200 start the resolutions again. We have our 1151 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,920 we really have like close to 90 days of 1152 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,400 legal requirements to be able to start 1153 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,400 that lease revenue bond process again. 1154 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,119 So that puts us into February before we 1155 00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:53,760 can even go out for the loan and go 1156 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,920 through the underwriting process. We 1157 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,839 probably wouldn't have funds until this 1158 00:48:57,839 --> 00:48:59,599 time next year going through that 1159 00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:02,630 process. 1160 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,240 » General obligation bond will be an 1161 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:08,079 additional not 1162 00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:09,680 >> Yeah, that's what I wanted to say was 1163 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,720 you said general obligation bond. So, in 1164 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:14,480 order to pay for that, it would have to 1165 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,119 be an additional tax 1166 00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:22,000 um a lease revenue bond, which was um 1167 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,920 which failed or you know, they had the 1168 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,079 signature stop that. And so, anyway, 1169 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:29,599 >> yeah, I'm sorry. I should have said in 1170 00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:32,240 that formula that we could roll back the 1171 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:36,079 taxes, roll back the taxes. 1172 00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:37,920 You know, we've heard you a couple of 1173 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,960 different times that this isn't what you 1174 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,680 wanted. We feel like that this is what 1175 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,839 we've heard that you do want because you 1176 00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:48,880 mentioned the surveys as 1177 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,480 this something that you would support 1178 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,800 financially. This is what we think that 1179 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,000 we heard you different but this is would 1180 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,960 you support a geo bond financial 1181 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,319 mechanism? So in addition to what I just 1182 00:50:02,319 --> 00:50:06,230 go ahead 1183 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:09,040 » I think everybody understands that yes 1184 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,000 that could happen that that question of 1185 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,359 course it could it would just it would 1186 00:50:13,359 --> 00:50:17,040 take the board to vote to do that right. 1187 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,839 So if it was a clarifying I mean we all 1188 00:50:19,839 --> 00:50:22,000 know that of course that is an option 1189 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,520 but it would take the board to vote to 1190 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,240 do that. 1191 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:28,720 >> I might just go I I might add a couple 1192 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,599 things. So when we start talking about 1193 00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:34,720 and I agree if we want to do a a survey 1194 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,880 about that question certainly if the 1195 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,359 board wants to do that uh I think one 1196 00:50:39,359 --> 00:50:43,040 thing that we need to note is that you 1197 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,960 know there's a lot of things from the uh 1198 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,960 2024 bond that changed. Uh there's a lot 1199 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,240 of things that based on that feedback we 1200 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:57,040 changed for the lease revenue bond 1201 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,680 option and what we're hearing and I hope 1202 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,400 that as you saw the presentation we're 1203 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,040 investing in Lake View North Park 1204 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,680 Middle. 1205 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,680 We have to extend the life of these 1206 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,559 buildings. You can also see the grades 6 1207 00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:19,040 through 8 92 is off the table. Now 1208 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,800 whether it ever goes back on the table, 1209 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,960 I do believe that that would be a vote 1210 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,359 of the people through a survey to say, 1211 00:51:25,359 --> 00:51:28,800 is that something you want to pursue? 1212 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,079 But the immediate need uh as we're all 1213 00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:34,480 hearing and as you look at the 1214 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,079 elementary 1215 00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:39,040 uh portables that keep coming 1216 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,280 um there is a need there and all other 1217 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,680 things have been put to the to the 1218 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,000 wayside for now and whenever that 1219 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,880 happens whenever there's an appetite I 1220 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,000 think we look at that but having a 1221 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,800 secure vestable at our three largest 1222 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,640 schools is a priority. Uh having AC in 1223 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,559 Bear River Middle a priority. Some may 1224 00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:05,920 say, well, why are you putting AC in a 1225 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,000 building? Well, because right now 1226 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,720 there's not a mechanism 1227 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:14,480 to secure a loan. But to Karen's point, 1228 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,640 if there needed to be a situation where 1229 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,359 we said, you know, we're going to roll 1230 00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:21,359 back and we're going to go for a 1231 00:52:21,359 --> 00:52:25,200 geobond, are you okay with, you know, 1232 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,960 these two projects that influence 1233 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:33,839 roughly a population of 600 students and 1234 00:52:33,839 --> 00:52:36,960 800 students? Um, so not a significant 1235 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,800 amount of our students are going to be 1236 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,240 affected by these two projects. if we go 1237 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:44,640 out to a general obligation bond. So, 1238 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,359 that would be interesting to see if the 1239 00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:49,839 people would vote for that if it didn't 1240 00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:52,480 affect Bear River Middle, Boxiller 1241 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,760 Middle, Lake View, uh, North Park. So, 1242 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,200 those are just some thoughts, but I hope 1243 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,240 that if anybody's watching or listening 1244 00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:02,800 that you hear that the plans that we've 1245 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,359 had have changed. 1246 00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:07,200 It's very significant that they have 1247 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,520 changed. They're not the same. we've 1248 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,520 pulled back and I think that means we 1249 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,359 have listened. We have listened and if 1250 00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:18,800 the people don't want us to go forward 1251 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,920 uh with any of these projects, I guess 1252 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,240 that's something we'll have to deal with 1253 00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:26,640 as well. So, that could be the question 1254 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,119 uh that you might ask. So, anyway, that 1255 00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:32,240 was just a a thought. Um, but I hope 1256 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:34,559 that we do know that we're not going to 1257 00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,359 put the initiative on the ballot for a 1258 00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:40,559 lease revenue bond in November based on 1259 00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:43,200 the signatures that were gathered. 1260 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,359 That's not going to happen. At least I I 1261 00:53:45,359 --> 00:53:47,359 got zero sense from the board that that 1262 00:53:47,359 --> 00:53:48,559 would be something where we're headed. 1263 00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:51,200 So, those are just some insights and 1264 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,599 thoughts, but I would love to hear the 1265 00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:56,559 rest. Um, I guess my thoughts on this 1266 00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:59,589 are 1267 00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:02,000 I'm hearing from my constituents now I 1268 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,520 know that we all represent different 1269 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,319 people that they are actually in support 1270 00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:08,079 of the school district building these 1271 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,240 buildings and moving forward and 1272 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:13,200 understand the financing is necessary 1273 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,040 and realize that we do not have 1274 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,440 a year to 18 months to put this off. And 1275 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,160 I think that um 1276 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,640 I think the longer we hold off, the more 1277 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,720 it's going to cost us and the greater 1278 00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:29,200 the needs are going to be. And just with 1279 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,960 this lake view situation, it's become 1280 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,319 really more apparent to me because when 1281 00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:36,559 you have a school with the sewer and the 1282 00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,559 restrooms and it was an inconvenience 1283 00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:40,640 for most students and they could 1284 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,559 survive, but there were some that was 1285 00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:46,480 actually uh inhibited their learning in 1286 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,680 a very significant way. And if we say we 1287 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,440 are here to educate all students and we 1288 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,599 do not provide facilities that are 1289 00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:54,880 appropriate for those students to be 1290 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,400 educated in, then we are not doing our 1291 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,800 jobs. And if that's going to cost us 1292 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,359 some money and I think we're with this 1293 00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:04,319 plan, we've shown we're putting sewer. 1294 00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:06,559 We we realize we don't have the money to 1295 00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:08,000 build all the buildings that we need. 1296 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,400 It's just a fact. But if we can use the 1297 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,480 buildings that we have and make them 1298 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,559 more usable for longer and prevent some 1299 00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:16,720 of those issues, then we are serving the 1300 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:18,400 needs of all of our students and not 1301 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,240 just 1302 00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:23,119 and even if it's only 2% of the students 1303 00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:25,280 that we're not serving because of these 1304 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,640 needs, that's 2% of our students. And 1305 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,640 there are and I would argue it's far 1306 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,880 more than that because of the we don't 1307 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,720 know the situations or the circumstances 1308 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:37,440 that every child is coming from. And so 1309 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,839 we have to have safe schools as we're 1310 00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:42,000 those secure best schools. We need to 1311 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,640 have functional schools and if we have 1312 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,559 to put in money and if and air 1313 00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:50,000 conditioning has been a a big push and 1314 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,599 people that I've talked to are like my 1315 00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:53,839 kids their elementary like we why don't 1316 00:55:53,839 --> 00:55:56,160 we have uh air conditioning in Lake View 1317 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,680 and you know because in the past we're 1318 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:58,720 like well we're going to replace Lake 1319 00:55:58,720 --> 00:55:59,839 View. Do we want to put that much money 1320 00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:01,040 into it? Well we're at the point where 1321 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,160 yeah we're going to have to keep using 1322 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,440 Lake View. So, we've got to put money 1323 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,720 into those things. But the from what I'm 1324 00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:09,200 seeing from cities and the growth that 1325 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,040 we're experiencing or potentially 1326 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,520 experiencing, we have got to be prepared 1327 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,440 and do everything we can to make our 1328 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,240 buildings last longer and then do what 1329 00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:21,520 we can now and not put it off 1330 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,680 until later. And so, I know that they 1331 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:24,960 gathered signatures. I know there are 1332 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,119 people that are very adamantly opposed 1333 00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:29,599 to our plans. the from the people that 1334 00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:32,319 I've talked to, they are actually 1335 00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:34,319 supportive of moving forward and they 1336 00:56:34,319 --> 00:56:36,319 want us to do something. They want us to 1337 00:56:36,319 --> 00:56:37,839 invest in our schools and our 1338 00:56:37,839 --> 00:56:50,870 infrastructure. 1339 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,520 » Again, I'm not opposed to projects. I'm 1340 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,240 just wondering with I think the way that 1341 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,640 the that we're legally supposed to move 1342 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,680 forward is based off of the we're 1343 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,400 supposed to represent the repres the 1344 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,960 residents. So I'm just wondering have we 1345 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,960 looked at other funding mechanisms? Have 1346 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,559 we looked at any grants or other options 1347 00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:14,880 for getting money? 1348 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:15,680 >> Um 1349 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,920 >> there are no grants available to build 1350 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,270 schools, 1351 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,880 » you know. Um, 1352 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,680 Julie was saying that the people she's 1353 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,839 listening to want it and I some of the 1354 00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:31,839 people I've heard want the elementary 1355 00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:33,920 schools. That's why I think that they 1356 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,000 would actually pass a bond. Um, but I 1357 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:43,280 think that we've got to go back and and Keith mentioned, you know, we've 1358 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,680 heard that from the the bond that didn't 1359 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,599 pass the people didn't want that. We've 1360 00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:49,440 heard from the signatures they didn't 1361 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,240 want that. What mechanism do the people 1362 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,880 have to tell us they don't want this? 1363 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,960 How do we how do we know that we're 1364 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,400 doing what we're supposed to legally do 1365 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,119 and that's represent residents because I 1366 00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:04,799 don't know that they have a mechanism to 1367 00:58:04,799 --> 00:58:07,520 come back and tell us don't want this. 1368 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,400 >> I want to say one thing here. What we're 1369 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,480 doing is legal. We've run it through our 1370 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,960 bond council at Chapman and Cutler. 1371 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,559 They've done the research. We are 1372 00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:18,000 allowed to do this. School districts 1373 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,680 have needs they have to address on a 1374 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,559 regular basis. I'll give you an example. 1375 00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:25,280 Earthquake in 2020 in Magna damaged a 1376 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,040 school in Grant School District they 1377 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,520 were unable to inhabit. They would not 1378 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,520 have been able to fix that school for 1379 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,599 the following school year if they were 1380 00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:35,680 not allowed to get a loan right then and 1381 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,599 there. That was an immediate need they 1382 00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:40,799 had. They could not have the luxury of 1383 00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:43,760 going out to the voters in a bond 1384 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,240 election to ask for the permission to 1385 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,160 get a loan. They had to address it then 1386 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,440 because they had a a school that would 1387 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,119 not be functional for a significant 1388 00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:54,559 amount of time if they did not. 1389 00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:58,160 >> Yes. I just would add 1390 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,680 I just I in the tree mountain end I just 1391 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,520 see 1392 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,720 how crowded they are and we also serve 1393 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,799 these kids to make sure that they have a 1394 00:59:08,799 --> 00:59:13,520 good place to learn which I I mean we 1395 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,119 talk about the portables how they're 1396 00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:16,319 nice because they have the air 1397 00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:18,319 conditioning but we're also running down 1398 00:59:18,319 --> 00:59:20,400 our buildings that we have currently 1399 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,280 because they're being over 1400 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,359 overused a good I don't know. But the 1401 00:59:25,359 --> 00:59:28,079 restrooms and just putting that added 1402 00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:32,240 pressure onto those buildings that 1403 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,760 I just I see 1404 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,319 that putting it out to 1405 00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:43,280 um the uh ballot would be really uh 1406 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,119 what's the word like they supportive. Um 1407 00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:50,160 somebody like said that they want that 1408 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,079 validating. can't be very validating for 1409 00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:54,720 the community to be able to say yes to, 1410 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,520 but in the back of my mind, well, what 1411 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,200 happens if they say no? And then what 1412 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,359 about all these kids that are also now 1413 01:00:03,359 --> 01:00:05,440 moving in? And and as we continue to 1414 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,880 grow, like I just feel like we're doing 1415 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,799 such a disservice 1416 01:00:08,799 --> 01:00:10,480 to the students that are there that this 1417 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,960 is impacting a lot. Um, you know, the 1418 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,440 new school comes in, Garland students 1419 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,359 that are going to fielding can now come 1420 01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:19,440 back to Garland. Kids that are getting 1421 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,839 bus from Thatcher can now go to the 1422 01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:23,680 closer school and now Garland kids can 1423 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,520 go to Garland and McKinley can fit in 1424 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,440 their school. It just doesn't seem like 1425 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:32,720 this is a a a want. It really does seem 1426 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,559 like a need and I just think we have an 1427 01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:40,799 obligation to these students to um make 1428 01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:44,559 decisions that are in our purview to 1429 01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:46,960 make sure that that happens. I don't 1430 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,160 know. 1431 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,319 >> That's I guess how I feel. I would add 1432 01:00:50,319 --> 01:00:52,799 that we did a democratic study. The 1433 01:00:52,799 --> 01:00:54,400 study came back and said over the next 5 1434 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,319 years over 5,000 households are planned 1435 01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:00,400 in new construction 1436 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,400 for our county. So if we were to go to 1437 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,839 the voters and wait till next year start 1438 01:01:05,839 --> 01:01:08,559 this process, this new school probably 1439 01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:11,200 would be functional, have students in it 1440 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,920 for 3 years. We're in the middle of a 1441 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,200 thick and grow cycle in 3 years. I feel 1442 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,799 like that if we wait that time, we're 1443 01:01:20,799 --> 01:01:23,359 going to have 15 more portables in the 1444 01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:26,559 north end than we have right now. 1445 01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:29,359 One consideration in our calculus to put 1446 01:01:29,359 --> 01:01:34,950 this plan forward. 1447 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,799 » Um, if I remember right, the uh 1448 01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:43,839 the survey that came back from the 1449 01:01:43,839 --> 01:01:46,079 what's the paper again? demographer 1450 01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:49,839 >> demographer I think we are up 190 1451 01:01:49,839 --> 01:01:52,400 students in five years which if you 1452 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,160 spread that out it's like one student 1453 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,599 per classroom so we do have growth but I 1454 01:01:57,599 --> 01:01:59,359 don't know that it's overwhelming growth 1455 01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:01,440 per the demographer not the per the 1456 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,760 demographer so the other thing I'm um 1457 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,200 again stressing is that I I don't know 1458 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,280 that anybody would say that these 1459 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,040 projects don't need to be done just 1460 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,799 saying that the financing mechanism 1461 01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:19,599 looks a lot like we're just trying to go 1462 01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:22,960 around, but they us not to. I don't know 1463 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,359 if that's crossing any lines that maybe 1464 01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:28,079 we wanted to consider. Um, I've had a 1465 01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:31,520 lot of phone calls since the newspaper 1466 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,440 article came out a couple weeks ago. I 1467 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,040 don't take the newspaper, but I've had a 1468 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,119 lot of phone calls saying that in an 1469 01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:40,160 interview with Keith um that he 1470 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,640 acknowledged that we need to build 1471 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,799 trust. Like again, I haven't read the 1472 01:02:44,799 --> 01:02:46,079 article, just what people have been 1473 01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:50,160 telling me. So, if we want to do that, 1474 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,240 I'm just wondering, is this the best way 1475 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,839 to do that or is it it might be better 1476 01:02:55,839 --> 01:02:58,160 in the long run to build trust for 1477 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,839 future projects to go back and get their 1478 01:03:01,839 --> 01:03:04,000 um input and help them to feel like that 1479 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,599 they're a vested part of this. 1480 01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:10,319 >> I would say that's um a board discussion 1481 01:03:10,319 --> 01:03:12,240 item. Us as leadership are putting forth 1482 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,480 a plan that we think addresses our needs 1483 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,559 educationally. we feel this is the best 1484 01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:20,079 way to address them in the near term. 1485 01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:21,520 >> So speaking to that Karen because I 1486 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:22,799 thought about that a lot. I thought are 1487 01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:24,799 we going against the will of the voters? 1488 01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:26,720 Is this number one it's not illegal. I 1489 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,400 don't think we are doing anything that's 1490 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,640 out of line out of step in any way shape 1491 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,000 or form. I think what we have is an 1492 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,839 obligation to to our students and to our 1493 01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:37,839 residents and to go forward in the best 1494 01:03:37,839 --> 01:03:39,359 way we can. So I don't think it's a 1495 01:03:39,359 --> 01:03:43,200 legal matter at all. But secondly, 1496 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,200 one of the things that I consider as a 1497 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,640 board member is I am a representative of 1498 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,200 the people, but that doesn't mean I 1499 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,640 listen to the loudest or that I I have 1500 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,960 to, you know, like there they did gather 1501 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,039 signatures, but that was still not the 1502 01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:00,880 full percentage of the county. We know 1503 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,640 the bond failed at a significant rate. 1504 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,960 Yes. So, we went and reworked it. But as 1505 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,799 a representative, 1506 01:04:06,799 --> 01:04:08,640 I feel like they're putting trust in us 1507 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,880 to look at the data, look at the 1508 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,559 solutions, look at what we need to do, 1509 01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:14,319 and make the best decision possible. I 1510 01:04:14,319 --> 01:04:16,640 see Tom's here, Tom Peterson. He's my 1511 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,039 representative in the state legislature, 1512 01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:21,760 and I don't necessarily 1513 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,760 know all the decisions that they make 1514 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,200 and what they're doing, but I know he's 1515 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,599 representing a large group of people and 1516 01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:30,000 he has to, but I also trust that he's 1517 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,079 doing his homework. like when he goes to 1518 01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:33,760 vote on something, he's looked at it and 1519 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,280 said, "Is this what is best for the 1520 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,280 majority of the people for the purpose 1521 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,039 that it is?" And I think that's our role 1522 01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:40,799 as board members. I don't think our role 1523 01:04:40,799 --> 01:04:42,480 is to go out and take a poll every time 1524 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,000 somebody we're going to do something and 1525 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,920 say, "Are you okay with spending this 1526 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,119 money this way? Are you okay with us 1527 01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:49,039 spending money that way?" I think ours 1528 01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:50,640 we take the feedback and they say, "Yes, 1529 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,640 we support these projects and we say, 1530 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,200 okay, this is how we have ability to do 1531 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:56,799 that." And then we move forward in that 1532 01:04:56,799 --> 01:04:59,280 way. And so one of the things that I 1533 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,880 think that when we talk to the public 1534 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,240 about this, I think we need to be really 1535 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,079 clear that it's not that we're not 1536 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:06,160 listening to you, it's that we are 1537 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,559 trying to do what you want us to because 1538 01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:09,920 I've heard people say we want the 1539 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,520 elementarymentaries, we want those 1540 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,920 things, but hold off until we approve it 1541 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,039 in a certain way. And I just think 1542 01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:17,280 that's actually costing us more money 1543 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,400 and actually 1544 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,400 depleting trust with the rest of the 1545 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,000 community that the people that, like I 1546 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,119 said, the people that I've talked to, 1547 01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:26,559 they're just like, "My kids are 1548 01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:29,200 suffering. How come my 1549 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,599 for example like Golden Spike new school 1550 01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:33,520 and they had something there and they 1551 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:34,960 had like different dance team like I 1552 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,039 think it was literacy night and they had 1553 01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:39,039 different dance companies or different 1554 01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:41,200 performance groups come and perform and 1555 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,839 her kids go to Lake View and they went 1556 01:05:43,839 --> 01:05:46,319 and performed there. just like 1557 01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:48,880 how is that fair that my kids have to go 1558 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,240 to this school without even enough 1559 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,960 bathrooms and then other kids have to go 1560 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,880 here and at the same thing how come my 1561 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,640 kids are all crowded into this space 1562 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,960 where this school has plenty of of space 1563 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,039 and room available and we're trying and 1564 01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:03,920 I think we have to consider the whole we 1565 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,160 need the space we're trying to make 1566 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,280 things right for us and obviously we 1567 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:10,880 have older buildings and we can't just 1568 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,880 build everything new but I think the 1569 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,119 public is asking us to do what is best 1570 01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:17,359 with the money that we have in the way 1571 01:06:17,359 --> 01:06:19,280 the best we can. And this is our this is 1572 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,599 our option. We don't have a huge 1573 01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:22,880 business coming in. In fact, any 1574 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,160 business that does come in, we don't get 1575 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,280 the taxes for a long time. You know, we 1576 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,799 don't have we have a different 1577 01:06:28,799 --> 01:06:31,359 demographic. We know that. But we are a 1578 01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:33,359 community and we are trying to do what's 1579 01:06:33,359 --> 01:06:37,359 right as a community to benefit 1580 01:06:37,359 --> 01:06:40,480 our students and our community in the 1581 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,960 best way we know how. And so when I look 1582 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,079 at it this way, I don't think we're 1583 01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:45,680 going behind anybody's backs. We're 1584 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,000 being very open and saying we need this 1585 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,799 done. This is the option we have and we 1586 01:06:50,799 --> 01:06:52,880 need to move forward because any weight 1587 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,640 is actually costing us more. And I was 1588 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,000 sending I don't know if they pass it 1589 01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,599 with just that particular thing on the 1590 01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:01,280 bond because it's only affecting small 1591 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,640 groups of people and and maybe the Lake 1592 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,160 View parents are like, well, I'm getting 1593 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,799 nothing out of this. like they could be 1594 01:07:08,799 --> 01:07:13,200 upset and and so I don't know I said too 1595 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,119 much but that's what I'm thinking. 1596 01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:17,280 >> I guess that's where my my biggest 1597 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,119 question lately has been is like if 1598 01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:20,559 we're going to take everything to the 1599 01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:22,400 ballot then what am I doing here? Like 1600 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,079 why am I sitting why am I doing all this 1601 01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:25,760 homework to figure out if this is a good 1602 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,880 idea if we should just put it on the 1603 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,960 ballot? I I guess that's just been my I 1604 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:37,430 don't understand. 1605 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,760 So just the political culture, the 1606 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,559 climate that we've been in for the past 1607 01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:47,839 years, I just think over and over again 1608 01:07:47,839 --> 01:07:50,400 that we live in a representative 1609 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,520 republic, not 1610 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,240 people vote for representatives, not 1611 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:57,839 only 1612 01:07:57,839 --> 01:08:02,799 we don't go by popular opinion. We don't run by 1613 01:08:02,799 --> 01:08:05,200 we don't sway and make decisions based 1614 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,079 on popularity in the moment. We we study 1615 01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:10,799 things out and we we are elected to 1616 01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:13,359 choose to do what is best. I think we 1617 01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:15,359 say we've said this a lot but this board 1618 01:08:15,359 --> 01:08:17,440 has said we want to get the biggest bang 1619 01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:20,560 for the buck. We're trying to spread out 1620 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,719 the funds that we have that we receive 1621 01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:26,960 in the best way possible to affect the 1622 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:32,000 most students possible. and teachers and 1623 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,560 that just keeps coming back to me. Um to 1624 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,480 run a poll and to run 1625 01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:40,960 a questionnaire whatever every single 1626 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,600 for all these decisions 1627 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,560 isn't what our 1628 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,199 that's not how our government runs. I 1629 01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:52,239 have just I have not had someone talk to 1630 01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:54,719 me and say I want you to give my taxes 1631 01:08:54,719 --> 01:08:57,600 back. I have had a lot of people say to 1632 01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,319 me, "What are you going to do with it? 1633 01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:01,679 You've got it. What are you going to do 1634 01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:04,560 with it?" And some of those names were 1635 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,400 on the petition. I'm just And I've also 1636 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,560 had people say, "I signed that petition 1637 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,000 because they told me you were raising my 1638 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,120 taxes again." So, the petition bears 1639 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,759 weight with me. It's important. I 1640 01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:21,199 listen. I'm listening. I but there were 1641 01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:23,040 people on that that signed that petition 1642 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,359 for all different reasons. Not just 1643 01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:28,719 saying I think I would dare say that 1644 01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:30,719 it's the vast minority that signed that 1645 01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:32,640 petition to say we don't like the 1646 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,719 funding mechanism you're using. I know 1647 01:09:34,719 --> 01:09:37,839 some did. I know some did. But people 1648 01:09:37,839 --> 01:09:39,359 signed that petition for all different 1649 01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:43,279 reasons. For spite a huge amount for 1650 01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:44,960 spite because they were angry about 1651 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,520 their taxes. that what I'm hearing now, 1652 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:52,239 even from that email that I forwarded to I think all of you from the the Tree 1653 01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:54,159 Mountain groups that represent four 1654 01:09:54,159 --> 01:09:56,159 quarters of Tree Mountain, they don't 1655 01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:57,199 want to know if they're getting their 1656 01:09:57,199 --> 01:09:59,199 taxes back. They want to know, are you 1657 01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:01,120 looking for growth? What are you doing 1658 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,719 with our money now that you've got it? 1659 01:10:02,719 --> 01:10:06,480 What is your plan? And so, personally, 1660 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:08,960 I'm not willing, and this isn't a vote. 1661 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,239 We're not taking a vote tonight. This is 1662 01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:12,239 a discussion. I'm not willing to say 1663 01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:15,199 let's give the taxes back because it 1664 01:10:15,199 --> 01:10:17,920 wastes time. It wastes money and we have 1665 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,480 we're rethinking and we're reusing and I 1666 01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:23,280 think we're trying to use this money 1667 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:24,960 to get the biggest bang for our buck for 1668 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,000 the most people. So 1669 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:32,470 that's 1670 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:34,480 um I'm not suggesting that we take a 1671 01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:38,320 poll on everything. Um, I think that 95% 1672 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,120 probably 98% of our decisions we make 1673 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,760 and we do the best we can to represent 1674 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,719 the people. Um, I'm just saying that 1675 01:10:46,719 --> 01:10:49,280 we've had this 1676 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,560 kind of a question with the bond with 1677 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,679 the petition on this question. I think 1678 01:10:55,679 --> 01:10:58,320 that it might be worth going back to the 1679 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,480 people on that. I'm not saying that the 1680 01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:02,560 projects aren't good projects. I'm just 1681 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,320 saying that I think that the people have 1682 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,800 kind of said, "Okay, on this one we want 1683 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:14,000 to be able to have some input." That's all I'm saying. Um I know that um 1684 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,480 we've heard that some people are getting 1685 01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:18,320 phone calls saying that they support 1686 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,239 this and like I said, I've had some that 1687 01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:21,840 say, "I would definitely support 1688 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,600 elementary schools and you know, the 1689 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,560 security issues." So that's why I'm a 1690 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,040 believer that if we rolled back the 1691 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,239 taxes, give the public the opportunity 1692 01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:35,360 to be invested in it, I think we have a 1693 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,520 very good public, I think that they 1694 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,199 would see that these are needs and I 1695 01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:40,640 think that they would actually vote for 1696 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,600 that geo bond, which um I think would be 1697 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,960 the right way to do it. But just a side 1698 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,560 note, I have also had a member of my 1699 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,120 community come and tell me that their 1700 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,920 neighbor is now selling her blood twice 1701 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,480 a month, be able to pay for increased 1702 01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:01,360 taxes. So, I don't know what everybody 1703 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,440 out there's doing, but I know that this 1704 01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:05,600 is hurting some people. And so, I'm just 1705 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:13,270 wondering if there's a better way. 1706 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:18,390 » Thank you. Thank you for that. 1707 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:19,920 Danielle, did you have anything you want 1708 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,880 to add to any of this? 1709 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,800 All right. Is there any other 1710 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,960 discussion? Directors, do you have 1711 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,760 anything for us? 1712 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,080 Wisdom, director, superintendent, you'd 1713 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,880 like to share? 1714 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,080 >> Oh, yeah. 1715 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,320 >> No, I I think we've had this 1716 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:39,280 >> this discussion. 1717 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,360 >> Yeah, we've had it several times and I 1718 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,120 appreciate it. It's so important for us 1719 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:47,040 to really understand try to understand 1720 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,520 I appreciate this time. Does anyone feel 1721 01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,080 like we need to keep 1722 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:56,550 >> here? Yeah, I'll hand 1723 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,280 » um I just wanted to say after I don't 1724 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:00,880 remember which meeting it was, but we 1725 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,560 did have a lot of the members that were 1726 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,600 really pushing the petition um and 1727 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,159 really advocating to get that signed. A 1728 01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:10,000 member from the community up north that 1729 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,920 lives kind of by me. I don't know this 1730 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,679 individual very well, but after one of 1731 01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:15,440 the board meetings where they came to 1732 01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:18,320 listen about what we were doing, um this 1733 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,560 individual, she stopped and stayed at 1734 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,480 the end when the board went into close 1735 01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:25,360 session and she spoke very strongly and 1736 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,000 adamantly about the fact that as she was 1737 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,560 gathering those votes, she felt like the 1738 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,159 people really wanted to see West 1739 01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:34,560 Traymont and built that that that area 1740 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,239 really strongly feels that it needs 1741 01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:38,960 done. And I I just wanted to speak 1742 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,440 because to that because as you said, I 1743 01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:43,600 do think that a lot of people signed the 1744 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,120 petition for a lot of different reasons 1745 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,440 and we can't really speak to what that 1746 01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:49,760 reason was, but I just thought it was 1747 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,600 worth noting that that individual who 1748 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,520 was listening to a lot of people and 1749 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,679 really pushing that petition felt like 1750 01:13:55,679 --> 01:13:57,600 we really do need to move forward with 1751 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,640 Traymont. And I I've gone back and forth 1752 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,600 on this a lot. And I just don't know how 1753 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,520 to meet the needs of the students in 1754 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,440 elementary school without doing 1755 01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:10,640 something. It's it's not fair what we're 1756 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,480 doing in our title one schools to those 1757 01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:14,320 kids. And it is our three title one 1758 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:15,920 schools that are seeing the most amount 1759 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,880 of impact. They're the ones with less 1760 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,960 playground space. They're the schools 1761 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,280 with less flexible space in their 1762 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,159 classrooms. We we don't have those same 1763 01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:32,480 problems at ThreeMile Creek. And it it's a big difference for those kids in 1764 01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:34,800 our most impacted schools that that see 1765 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,880 the hardest things day in day out. And 1766 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,880 this has been a problem that we've had 1767 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,040 for four years since I've been in my 1768 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,520 position. A big fear about the building 1769 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,120 and construction that's going in in 1770 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,120 Tmont and how that's going to impact the 1771 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,840 schools. and we've been limping along 1772 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,320 for a really long time doing all that we 1773 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,400 can to make do and do without and 1774 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,520 support the kids. And I I do genuinely 1775 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,159 believe that the majority of the 1776 01:15:02,159 --> 01:15:04,159 community does understand that something 1777 01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:06,560 has to be done for elementary schools. 1778 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,480 And that's just what I wanted to add as 1779 01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:10,320 the elementary assistant superintendent 1780 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:14,080 since that's what we're discussing. 1781 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,480 Ultimately all this information as we 1782 01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:18,640 think about the different that are shown 1783 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,159 to us tonight ultimately so as we have 1784 01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:24,560 action items 1785 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,560 to approve contract 1786 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:33,199 I know the help me here the construction 1787 01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:35,440 what is the name of that construction 1788 01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:37,040 management 1789 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,760 the action item on Wednesday right 1790 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,760 that's that's a vote so we just if you 1791 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,760 at that meeting decide no this is not 1792 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,480 the way I want to move forward then 1793 01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:52,000 that's when you go right um and then we 1794 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,440 reate things 1795 01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:56,320 >> can we propose a brief restroom break 1796 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:57,760 for a few minutes here before our next 1797 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,590 topic 1798 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,360 » 8:30 1799 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:19,830 reconvene that's that's good 1800 01:16:19,840 --> 01:23:34,390 Oh no. 1801 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,480 I didn't get to ask what you thought 1802 01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:39,510 about. 1803 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,880 » I should have asked 1804 01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:51,990 >> the facilities. 1805 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:53,840 » Oh, before we go to facil 1806 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,280 >> Clay, would you join us up here? 1807 01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,159 >> We're next to Cory. He doesn't bite. 1808 01:24:00,159 --> 01:24:01,679 >> And Mr. Gilmore, I think you were up 1809 01:24:01,679 --> 01:24:06,709 here, too. 1810 01:24:06,719 --> 01:24:08,880 » Now, I just I want to clarify the 1811 01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,120 facilities 1812 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:15,040 committee was shown this two months ago. 1813 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,080 >> About that. Yeah, 1814 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:17,679 >> about two months ago. Part of it. I 1815 01:24:17,679 --> 01:24:20,080 don't even think all of it. And and this 1816 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:24,080 is just a way to There's a problem. 1817 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:24,560 >> Yes, 1818 01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:30,550 >> there's a big problem. 1819 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,520 » Um, so we need a solution. This is one 1820 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:34,800 solution, correct? 1821 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,199 >> That's correct. It's a proposal from the 1822 01:24:37,199 --> 01:24:39,600 facilities leadership of how we can fix 1823 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:40,880 some problems we see. 1824 01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,400 >> All right. And this solution wasn't 1825 01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,560 built by the facilities board members 1826 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:45,440 committee, right? 1827 01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:46,000 >> Correct. 1828 01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,360 >> But but we were shown it months ago. 1829 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:55,910 >> Yeah. 1830 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,040 » And I'll lean on Corey here to correct 1831 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,800 me on size if they're wrong. Is this the 1832 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,960 right size of Boxelder High? 1833 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,360 >> 51. I'm close. 1834 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,920 >> All right. This is the size of Boxelder 1835 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,480 High. As we can see by the text here, 1836 01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:13,199 it's actually 51 acres. 1837 01:25:13,199 --> 01:25:16,719 Look how spread out it is. We have the 1838 01:25:16,719 --> 01:25:20,000 Let's see if this doesn't work here. 1839 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,840 Um, here we go. We have the NAT right 1840 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,159 here. We have the baseball and softball 1841 01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:29,440 up here. Then we have the uh football 1842 01:25:29,440 --> 01:25:32,560 field. We have the CT area, the main 1843 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,639 part of the building. Then we have 1844 01:25:34,639 --> 01:25:36,320 parking back here, additional practice 1845 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,520 fields, uh down here at tennis courts. 1846 01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,320 We're pretty well spread out. 1847 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,199 Now, when we get to Bear River, 1848 01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:47,040 we're at 29 acres. Is that accurate, 1849 01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,440 Cory? 1850 01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:51,120 And 1851 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,120 see if this is going to work here. We 1852 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,480 have softball next to baseball. We don't 1853 01:25:56,480 --> 01:25:58,800 have a lot of parking. And those sports 1854 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,120 happen in the same season. Here we have 1855 01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,159 the track and lacrosse actually lacrosse 1856 01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:06,320 happens in the springtime. All four of 1857 01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:07,920 those sports happen the same time and 1858 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,360 sometimes we have home events for all 1859 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,199 four sports. There's not a lot of 1860 01:26:11,199 --> 01:26:13,840 parking and space back here. 1861 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,440 We have a practice field up here that 1862 01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:17,440 also doubles as a parking lot during 1863 01:26:17,440 --> 01:26:19,679 spring for our different athletic 1864 01:26:19,679 --> 01:26:22,400 events. Um seminary building we don't 1865 01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,400 quite own yet, but we don't have parking 1866 01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,280 up there. And then I go across the 1867 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,840 street. We have parking over here. And 1868 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,520 then we have the NAT over here and more 1869 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,159 parking. But what happens is, and we 1870 01:26:34,159 --> 01:26:35,360 can't really see this on my picture 1871 01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,560 here, I apologize. Along these roads up 1872 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,199 here on 14 north, students park on both 1873 01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:43,040 sides of the roads because we have 1874 01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:47,040 adequate parking. Down here in between 1875 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,280 the Bear Center and the CTE building and 1876 01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,199 the main building, we have buses running 1877 01:26:51,199 --> 01:26:53,840 back here to pick up students. We have 1878 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,639 buses running in front here to pick up 1879 01:26:56,639 --> 01:26:59,360 students. And over here we have student 1880 01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,120 parking over here that students cross 1881 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,760 right here and create a massive traffic 1882 01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,159 jam on Main Street. Same thing up here. 1883 01:27:06,159 --> 01:27:09,120 They cross over here. We have a parking 1884 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,719 problem. We have a space problem. 1885 01:27:12,719 --> 01:27:14,080 >> Going to be built. 1886 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:15,600 >> Okay. Um I'll get to that. 1887 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,120 >> Okay. It's not anywhere there. 1888 01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,040 >> Uh it it is it is. But I I think my 1889 01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:22,080 visual better illustrates it. Well, our 1890 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:23,679 parking problem creates a student safety 1891 01:27:23,679 --> 01:27:26,560 problem. Now to the north here, we own 1892 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,560 land across the street, but it's not 1893 01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,320 really safe to have kids crossing that 1894 01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,000 main road on a regular basis for 1895 01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,120 parking. Um, it also requires 1896 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:36,639 significant 1897 01:27:36,639 --> 01:27:38,320 um amount of construction to get it 1898 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,510 there. 1899 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,639 So, here's our bus loading zones behind. 1900 01:27:44,639 --> 01:27:47,280 We load uh some special ed students, but 1901 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,840 we also load in front as well. And this 1902 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,480 is morning and afternoon that happens. 1903 01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:54,320 There's about 35 buses that come to this 1904 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,000 area on a daily basis each morning, each 1905 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,880 afternoon. It's a lot of bus traffic and 1906 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,400 a lot of student traffic mixed with 1907 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,400 buses. A lot of traffic on Main Street 1908 01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:03,679 that gets backed up for students 1909 01:28:03,679 --> 01:28:07,120 crossing back and forth and buses. We 1910 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,960 really think that we need to alleviate 1911 01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:14,390 this in some form or fashion. 1912 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,239 So, we went through a design phase as 1913 01:28:16,239 --> 01:28:18,400 part of the RFP authorized about this 1914 01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,600 time last year to redesign this campus 1915 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,159 to the intent was to allow 9th graders 1916 01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:26,080 to come up with the high school. So, 1917 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,600 this is what the redesign looked like. 1918 01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:30,800 Let's see if I can get this to work 1919 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,400 better here. So, proposal is to purchase 1920 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,639 a seminary building, which we are going 1921 01:28:36,639 --> 01:28:38,560 to be doing, and we would extend have 1922 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,400 extended this building up through here. 1923 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,080 Now, that we're no longer building this. 1924 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:43,679 For the time being, this would area 1925 01:28:43,679 --> 01:28:45,040 right here, the semary building become a 1926 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:48,400 parking lot next year in August of 27. 1927 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:49,360 Probably be available for us to 1928 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,679 construct a parking lot. 1929 01:28:51,679 --> 01:28:52,960 Here's a new seminary building right 1930 01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:54,960 here, right across the street. We traded 1931 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,840 land size for land size for them to have 1932 01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,080 this building over here. 1933 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,280 And so we need to create a parking 1934 01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,600 entrance right here for parking to come 1935 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,520 in the back side of the auditorium 1936 01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,080 because Main Street is a UD do road. UD 1937 01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,320 do will not authorize another curb cut 1938 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:13,920 to allow traffic in from this side over 1939 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,920 here. So, we're going to have to come in 1940 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,320 down through here to put parking in 1941 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,400 here. 1942 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,840 And then here's a potential moving of 1943 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,120 the base of the softball field because 1944 01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,199 we want to create the practice field, 1945 01:29:29,199 --> 01:29:31,920 make that a so a parking lot for 1946 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,000 students and for buses. buses would come 1947 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,000 in around the perimeter of the field of 1948 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,199 the of the parking lot, but line up for 1949 01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:41,840 um students to board them. That removes 1950 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:45,600 them from behind here 1951 01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,199 and in front of the school where we have 1952 01:29:47,199 --> 01:29:49,440 lots of traffic already. And in the 1953 01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:51,600 center would be student parking during 1954 01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,679 school time and event parking for 1955 01:29:53,679 --> 01:29:55,360 different events we have at the high 1956 01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,000 school. Doing that, we need a practice 1957 01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:02,320 space. So the softball field will become 1958 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,480 a practice field and then the softball 1959 01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:07,440 field move over here. In doing so, that 1960 01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:10,080 alleviates spring sports congestion back 1961 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,480 here and people trying to get out on 1962 01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:14,800 Main Street from behind the school. It 1963 01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:16,239 would be moved over here. They could 1964 01:30:16,239 --> 01:30:17,840 park in an auditorium parking right here 1965 01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,080 and exit out that way. They could park 1966 01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,320 over here and exit this way or down Main 1967 01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,560 Street easier and wouldn't create so 1968 01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,320 much traffic behind the school during 1969 01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:30,070 events. 1970 01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,719 So this is what it looks like. 1971 01:30:32,719 --> 01:30:34,719 Add parking remove and it also removes 1972 01:30:34,719 --> 01:30:36,639 all the student parking from the roads. 1973 01:30:36,639 --> 01:30:38,480 We wouldn't allow any student parking on 1974 01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:40,320 the roads anymore. Creates a safety 1975 01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,320 issue. The speed limit on that road up 1976 01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:45,360 there 14 or north is pretty quick and we 1977 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,360 we'd hate to see an accident like that 1978 01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:49,120 involving a vehicle. Either students 1979 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,120 backing out because they pull in or 1980 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:52,560 students trying to cross the road or get 1981 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,800 in their vehicle. It's just a a risk 1982 01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,040 that we think we need to address um 1983 01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:00,320 sooner than later. 1984 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,280 So, natory parking lot changes. Samurray 1985 01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:04,480 is going to start construction this 1986 01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:07,440 summer, probably August or September. Um 1987 01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:09,360 and then we need to access drive the go 1988 01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,080 here to the back parking lot and extend 1989 01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:13,600 potential expanded parking lot on the 1990 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,199 new softball field if we choose to do 1991 01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:17,760 that. But we do need to create this 1992 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:21,199 parking access drive uh this summer to 1993 01:31:21,199 --> 01:31:22,719 bring in there. It can be it can be a 1994 01:31:22,719 --> 01:31:24,880 temporary drive not be permanent but 1995 01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,280 this is part of this plan to be allowed 1996 01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,760 to gain access back off of 1400 north 1997 01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,440 into the natoran parking 1998 01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:33,840 >> yes 1999 01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,040 >> this was the slide for that 2000 01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:42,070 >> yes 2001 01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,910 » north of the 2002 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,520 » any other questions so far 2003 01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:54,229 >> what what are they right 2004 01:31:54,239 --> 01:31:56,239 What are they using that area right 2005 01:31:56,239 --> 01:31:59,350 there? 2006 01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,239 » Right now that's a practice field or 2007 01:32:02,239 --> 01:32:04,719 >> middle school. 2008 01:32:04,719 --> 01:32:13,510 So 2009 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,560 » they have adequate PE space north of the 2010 01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:18,480 building and even north of this there's 2011 01:32:18,480 --> 01:32:20,239 still a fairly good chunk 2012 01:32:20,239 --> 01:32:22,400 >> right that grass area is not used for 2013 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,280 medical middle school anything right now 2014 01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:26,880 right 2015 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:34,390 >> rarely it's not needed for PE space 2016 01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,719 uh practice field changes. So the 2017 01:32:36,719 --> 01:32:38,239 current softball field will become the 2018 01:32:38,239 --> 01:32:42,320 practice field next to tennis courts. Um 2019 01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,040 eventually we would if we use the 2020 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:46,480 current design we've invested in for 2021 01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:48,800 this high school. We would take down the 2022 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,120 CTE building 2023 01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,239 uh right here and build a new space here 2024 01:32:54,239 --> 01:32:56,560 and this will all become parking. And I 2025 01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,000 forgot to mention we also have tennis 2026 01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,840 back here. So tennis is another spring 2027 01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,080 sport. So we have five spring sports 2028 01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,000 potentially that are occurring on this 2029 01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,719 29 acres that most high schools have 2030 01:33:06,719 --> 01:33:09,920 double the space. 2031 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:13,440 >> Neil about that CT 2032 01:33:13,440 --> 01:33:17,360 >> that CT is that CT building and changes 2033 01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:18,320 down the road 2034 01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:21,520 >> down the way. Yes. Yeah. We're using 2035 01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,000 existing design that we worked on for 2036 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,400 the expansion as a basis of how we can 2037 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,360 improve access and parking at the build 2038 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:34,229 at this campus. 2039 01:33:34,239 --> 01:33:37,040 Uh those are those slides. Um this is a 2040 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,840 brief overview. If you go back to the 2041 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,800 remember the initial slides um we're 2042 01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:44,800 proposing 2043 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,639 let me see I think it's four or 2044 01:33:48,639 --> 01:33:54,229 um 2045 01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:56,960 yeah I I don't want to misspeak uh $4 2046 01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,480 million for improvements. 2047 01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:02,000 >> Yes, 2048 01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,239 that's just estimate from architects 2049 01:34:04,239 --> 01:34:06,080 what it may cost. We don't have any 2050 01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:07,760 bids. This isn't even designed yet. This 2051 01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,239 is a rough stage one design of this 2052 01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:11,360 campus. We haven't gone through 2053 01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,679 engineering on this campus yet. And so 2054 01:34:13,679 --> 01:34:17,199 the engineering and design work uh civil 2055 01:34:17,199 --> 01:34:19,280 work has not been completed yet. We 2056 01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:20,320 haven't even gone down that route yet. 2057 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,320 We haven't invested in that. But this is 2058 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,880 where we're at so far with the uh high 2059 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,920 school plans. 2060 01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:29,280 >> Yes, Stephanie. 2061 01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:33,110 >> Are you 2062 01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:34,880 » Yeah, this is No, this is your time now. 2063 01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:36,719 I'm done with the presentation about the 2064 01:34:36,719 --> 01:34:38,320 but we can go back to the pictures. 2065 01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,080 >> I I don't know if this is a you question 2066 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,239 or you question but we just approved 2067 01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:45,199 doing the turf for 2068 01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:45,920 the 2069 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,960 >> baseball We'll also be doing it we'll 2070 01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,280 be doing it for the softball as well. So 2071 01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:52,880 this is a really good time to make that 2072 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,920 decision so that we're not undoing what 2073 01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:59,679 we just do. So making that plan 2074 01:34:59,679 --> 01:35:01,760 and so that would does does the money 2075 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,520 that we approved is that part of the 4 2076 01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:04,800 million or is that 2077 01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,679 >> no money? So that we approved a 2078 01:35:07,679 --> 01:35:11,360 receiving a donation for the purposes of 2079 01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,560 re of renovating the baseball field. We 2080 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:18,870 haven't approved that project yet. 2081 01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,520 » Yes. 2082 01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,600 >> The match funds are not included in 2083 01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,320 this. No, it actually if we include the 2084 01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,320 match funds that would be a $3.5 2085 01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:30,400 million, but that match is not part of 2086 01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:36,870 the budget that we're doing right now. 2087 01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:39,840 » As we've looked through these options 2088 01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,480 and I've talked with Neil, we want to be 2089 01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:44,639 clear that 2090 01:35:44,639 --> 01:35:48,000 the issues we are trying to solve are 2091 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,760 traffic, parking, and busing. 2092 01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:58,320 And in the process of this and doing the shuffling of things around to make a 2093 01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,600 better setup, there are some benefits 2094 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,000 that extracurricular activities will 2095 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,560 gain, but they are not the reason that 2096 01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,990 this is happening. 2097 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:14,719 It is a crazy cramped 2098 01:36:14,719 --> 01:36:19,600 campus that they are doing all they can 2099 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,800 to make it work. and it's just a 2100 01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,239 struggle all the time. I don't know if 2101 01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:27,520 you want to say anything else on that. 2102 01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,760 >> Yeah, I mean I agree. We're we're we're 2103 01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,639 basically doing everything we can do. Um 2104 01:36:32,639 --> 01:36:35,920 we probably have 35% of our students 2105 01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,159 right now that don't park in any parking 2106 01:36:38,159 --> 01:36:39,840 lot. They park on streets. They park 2107 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,760 across from where the practice football 2108 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:43,760 field is on both sides all the way down 2109 01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,920 the block all the way to the almost 2110 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:47,840 railroad tracks. We have people that 2111 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,400 park there. We have people that park um 2112 01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,639 between the niatorum and the parking lot 2113 01:36:52,639 --> 01:36:54,159 on the street all the way that way and 2114 01:36:54,159 --> 01:36:56,080 then on the north side all the way down 2115 01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,719 on that that piece every day come in the 2116 01:36:58,719 --> 01:37:01,040 winter time when there's a few uh snow 2117 01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:04,639 piles makes it even worse. Um the bus 2118 01:37:04,639 --> 01:37:07,840 thing behind the school is a huge issue. 2119 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,080 We have we have I think we have eight 2120 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,480 buses that go behind the school um 2121 01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:14,800 including our our um sped buses that 2122 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,280 have um the kids that that have to have 2123 01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:18,800 like wheelchairs and things. that's 2124 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,159 where they drop kids off. Um, we have no 2125 01:37:22,159 --> 01:37:24,000 choice but we have kids that have to 2126 01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,560 walk past in between those buses all the 2127 01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,639 time. There's they have to because of 2128 01:37:28,639 --> 01:37:30,960 where their school their classes are. 2129 01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:35,119 So, like Corey said, the real the real 2130 01:37:35,119 --> 01:37:37,600 problem is the parking and the access to 2131 01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,920 the school. In order to fix that, you're 2132 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,000 going to have to do some other things to 2133 01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,239 make sure that there's other that those 2134 01:37:44,239 --> 01:37:45,840 get moved to a certain place. It's a lot 2135 01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:47,360 like what happened with the baseball and 2136 01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,679 softball field at Bosel. In order to be 2137 01:37:49,679 --> 01:37:51,679 able to build those buildings there, you 2138 01:37:51,679 --> 01:37:53,760 had to relocate and in order to do that 2139 01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,159 sometimes you have to So yeah, I don't 2140 01:37:56,159 --> 01:37:58,080 know if there's any questions on on the 2141 01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,000 parking or just the congestion. Neil's 2142 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,800 not wrong. Um we actually have six 2143 01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:04,800 sports that would would be there. You 2144 01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,040 got baseball, softball, track, both 2145 01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:09,679 lacrosse, tennis, and then we have boys 2146 01:38:09,679 --> 01:38:12,560 uh uh soccer. We have generally 2147 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,440 baseball, softball, you know, a game on 2148 01:38:15,440 --> 01:38:18,239 the turf, tennis, a game in the gym all 2149 01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:20,880 in the same night. And and we have I 2150 01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,199 mean, we we've had a couple of instances 2151 01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:24,560 where, you know, we have some older 2152 01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,080 people that like to come to games. They 2153 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,400 have they literally have to walk from 2154 01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,080 all the way over here by the by the 2155 01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,520 junior high school all the way to the 2156 01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:32,400 back of the building because they have 2157 01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,800 nowhere else to walk. 2158 01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:38,960 >> Yeah. And I would say if you're um 2159 01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:40,719 wheelchair bound or have difficulty with 2160 01:38:40,719 --> 01:38:42,880 mobility, trying to get to the back of 2161 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:44,560 the softball field, the bleachers down 2162 01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,960 that gravel or cobblestone you call it 2163 01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:49,600 path is difficult. 2164 01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,199 >> I was just going to say I was at we've 2165 01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:54,239 only been in one game this year was a 2166 01:38:54,239 --> 01:38:56,639 softball game and I watched a woman in a 2167 01:38:56,639 --> 01:38:59,199 motorized wheelchair try to get from 2168 01:38:59,199 --> 01:39:01,520 where the stadium seats are behind the 2169 01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:03,440 softball field around to go to the 2170 01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:05,440 restroom. 2171 01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:08,800 I was really It was uncomfortable. It's 2172 01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:09,520 hard. 2173 01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,000 >> Yeah. 2174 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:17,109 I just wonder 2175 01:39:17,119 --> 01:39:20,790 for people to park 2176 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:22,960 » in the in the black areas but not 2177 01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:26,960 actually but yes in the parking area 2178 01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:32,390 highlight 2179 01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:34,000 » just go to the tennis courts 2180 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:35,280 >> tennis courts 2181 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:52,149 >> yeah so yes there areapost 2182 01:39:52,159 --> 01:39:57,600 Maybe grandparents would say 2183 01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:02,310 that's where I'm at. 2184 01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,639 » Do we have any questions about this 2185 01:40:04,639 --> 01:40:08,629 proposal idea? 2186 01:40:08,639 --> 01:40:10,159 uh this will be from existing capital 2187 01:40:10,159 --> 01:40:13,440 funds. So if and I don't mean to make 2188 01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:14,800 anybody sick here, but if we go back 2189 01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,639 here to the proposed budget, 2190 01:40:18,639 --> 01:40:20,560 it's within our existing capital funds 2191 01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:22,000 that we'd be using this for. We would 2192 01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,159 not be raising any additional funds to 2193 01:40:24,159 --> 01:40:27,750 make this happen. 2194 01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:29,920 Is that one of the line items or is that 2195 01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:33,520 >> Yeah, down here river improvements $4 2196 01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:35,600 million 2197 01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:39,199 >> and the vote is that is right. 2198 01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:42,639 >> So yeah, the process will be uh process 2199 01:40:42,639 --> 01:40:44,560 that superintendent works with me to 2200 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:46,159 develop a budget. He tells me what the 2201 01:40:46,159 --> 01:40:48,239 priorities are. We put the numbers 2202 01:40:48,239 --> 01:40:50,800 together in the budget book to publish 2203 01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:52,880 for the public to consume and all wells 2204 01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:56,159 the board and then in June we will have 2205 01:40:56,159 --> 01:40:58,320 a vote on what is going to be the 2206 01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:01,600 proposed budget. 2207 01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,560 So I the plan is to include that in the 2208 01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,400 budget for for the board to consider in 2209 01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:08,800 June. 2210 01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,280 >> Yes. 2211 01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:13,040 Uh 2212 01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:14,960 then we essentially have permission from 2213 01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:16,239 the board to start the construction 2214 01:41:16,239 --> 01:41:18,239 planning process to go through 2215 01:41:18,239 --> 01:41:20,960 engineering design and go get bids. I 2216 01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:23,119 wouldn't anticipate that happening being 2217 01:41:23,119 --> 01:41:25,679 starting construction before the fall, 2218 01:41:25,679 --> 01:41:28,080 possibly next spring on many parts of 2219 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,520 this. There's some parts we can do. 2220 01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,320 Parking lot's easy to do, but uh the 2221 01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:34,800 field moves and the other parts of it 2222 01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:37,600 would take more time. 2223 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:42,159 So, an immediate need would be access to 2224 01:41:42,159 --> 01:41:44,639 the Niatoran parking lot because right 2225 01:41:44,639 --> 01:41:47,199 now we have one access. It's on the 2226 01:41:47,199 --> 01:41:50,480 north and it's right where the new 2227 01:41:50,480 --> 01:41:53,840 seminary building would be built. So, 2228 01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,719 before next school year starts, there's 2229 01:41:56,719 --> 01:41:58,880 a non-negotiable that we have to have 2230 01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,520 access into that parking lot. Even if 2231 01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:05,360 it's just a roadbased road, those can be 2232 01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:09,600 difficult to push snow off of. And that 2233 01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,480 field between the Natorium and Bear 2234 01:42:12,480 --> 01:42:15,360 River Middle School is currently flood 2235 01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,040 irrigated. 2236 01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:18,880 So, there are some considerations that 2237 01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,840 we do need to deal with before students 2238 01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:23,760 are back in school next fall or 2239 01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:25,199 immediately because as soon as the 2240 01:42:25,199 --> 01:42:28,560 seminary as soon as the LDS church takes 2241 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:32,960 over that area, we lose our access. So, 2242 01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:34,000 we're going to have to do that in 2243 01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,480 conjunction with them fencing off that 2244 01:42:36,480 --> 01:42:37,040 section. 2245 01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:38,560 >> I would add that's probably the least 2246 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,119 costly part of this project. It's the 2247 01:42:41,119 --> 01:42:46,470 easiest to uh to do. 2248 01:42:46,480 --> 01:42:48,239 That's also going to take over 100 2249 01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:54,550 parking spaces 2250 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:54,960 building. 2251 01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:56,239 >> Yeah, that where they're putting the 2252 01:42:56,239 --> 01:42:58,320 seminary building that we have a ton of 2253 01:42:58,320 --> 01:42:59,600 parking right there that will take 2254 01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,080 almost all of that um because of the way 2255 01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:03,760 that they access that and the way that 2256 01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,159 they'll park on it. So, so again, we're 2257 01:43:06,159 --> 01:43:10,950 going from not very much to even less. 2258 01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,040 How many current per parking spaces do 2259 01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,440 we have right now versus how many will 2260 01:43:15,440 --> 01:43:18,880 we have if this is put through? 2261 01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:20,719 >> Are we talking about the seminary 2262 01:43:20,719 --> 01:43:23,760 portion or the whole project? 2263 01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,520 >> Um I don't have an estimate on that, but 2264 01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:27,040 that parking lot is a pretty large 2265 01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:28,320 parking lot. Let me see if I can read 2266 01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:34,480 that what it says. Uh 225 by 49. 2267 01:43:34,480 --> 01:43:37,840 So that's a large 200. It's a nearly a 2268 01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:39,280 football field long. 2269 01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:40,960 >> It's actually a little bit bigger. I 2270 01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,360 mean, as far as the whole thing, um 2271 01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:46,159 right now there's about 240 spaces in 2272 01:43:46,159 --> 01:43:48,719 the parking lot south of the natiatorum. 2273 01:43:48,719 --> 01:43:50,560 Um that goes all the way over towards 2274 01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,600 the um the middle school, that little L 2275 01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:57,840 space right there. Um we have about 2276 01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,880 180 spaces on the north side of the 2277 01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,400 natitorium. Um which that will take 2278 01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,040 roughly a 100 spots. Um, so then you're 2279 01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:08,800 looking at it, but I think it'll 2280 01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:09,840 actually take a little bit more than 2281 01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:11,280 that because of how you're going to put 2282 01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,199 the the access points in. I think 2283 01:44:13,199 --> 01:44:15,840 that'll actually take more parking await 2284 01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:18,159 as well. I'm pretty sure you're going to 2285 01:44:18,159 --> 01:44:20,239 get at least that much and most likely 2286 01:44:20,239 --> 01:44:23,040 more over here on the practice football 2287 01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:24,719 field. It's a bigger space than either 2288 01:44:24,719 --> 01:44:28,080 one of those two are. So, 2289 01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:29,760 >> yeah, you will lose Yeah. Yeah. Because 2290 01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:31,360 you will have the bus lanes that go 2291 01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:35,910 around. 2292 01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:37,199 Yes. 2293 01:44:37,199 --> 01:44:40,239 >> But also next to the tennis courts and 2294 01:44:40,239 --> 01:44:42,880 Oh, we get those. 2295 01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,440 >> Not yet. 2296 01:44:45,440 --> 01:44:48,639 >> It's just where like your 2297 01:44:48,639 --> 01:44:52,000 >> So we're looking at here some here. When 2298 01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:53,920 the seminary comes down, the seminary 2299 01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:56,400 will we will raise that and we will make 2300 01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,600 it a parking lot. So that's 2301 01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:01,280 >> Yes. 12 months out. Well, we haven't 2302 01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,440 decided students or staff, but we will 2303 01:45:03,440 --> 01:45:07,350 have parking. 2304 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:09,199 » My preference is in designing this is 2305 01:45:09,199 --> 01:45:12,000 that staff park behind the school only 2306 01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:16,400 and students park up here at the top 2307 01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:20,800 and across the road and over here. 2308 01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:22,719 >> So, if I remember right, you said that 2309 01:45:22,719 --> 01:45:25,119 this plan would have all parking 2310 01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:27,520 students and staff in a parking lot, not 2311 01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:28,159 on the street. 2312 01:45:28,159 --> 01:45:32,629 >> That's correct. 2313 01:45:32,639 --> 01:45:34,400 goal. I mean, it all depends on how many 2314 01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:37,119 kids drive to school, but that that 2315 01:45:37,119 --> 01:45:39,760 would that would go a long way. 2316 01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,400 >> Well, we we feel like current drivers 2317 01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:44,800 would all fit in this current system 2318 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:46,719 right now. 2319 01:45:46,719 --> 01:45:48,639 >> Current drivers would fit in. 2320 01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:51,760 >> Yes. I mean, if we have three 400 more 2321 01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:53,280 students in the future, that's another 2322 01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:56,950 conversation. 2323 01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:59,360 Well, if you listen to the Tree Mountain 2324 01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:00,639 City Planner minutes, they're looking 2325 01:46:00,639 --> 01:46:02,719 for big developments on Radio Hill. So, 2326 01:46:02,719 --> 01:46:04,400 I think it's more closer to reality than 2327 01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:08,709 we wanted to believe. 2328 01:46:08,719 --> 01:46:10,239 Any other questions on this or anything 2329 01:46:10,239 --> 01:46:15,030 we've talked about tonight? 2330 01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:16,400 » I think I'd turn it back over to board 2331 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:21,590 president. 2332 01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:23,360 » All right. I think we have reached the 2333 01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:34,550 end of our agenda. Anyone else? 2334 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:35,520 » Thanks everybody. 2335 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:37,920 >> Reminder 6 o'clock next Wednesday at 2336 01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,639 Young Intermediate for the uh reception 2337 01:46:40,639 --> 01:46:44,560 for the retirees and then starts 2338 01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:48,070 >> young intermediate 2339 01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:49,920 » the reception. 2340 01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:51,840 Is that what we call that? The reception 2341 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:55,990 open house. 2342 01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:59,199 That's what it says. Is it?