1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,160 by Commissioner Perry. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,960 » Our dear heavenly father, we come before this time grateful for the many 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,400 blessings thou has blessed us with. We're indeed grateful for this moisture 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:16,800 that we're receiving at this time. We ask that you continue to bless us 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,560 with the moisture we need to continue to take care of the needs that we have here 6 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:22,320 in Box Elder County and here in the state of Utah. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,280 We pray that thy spirit will be with us this day in this meeting that we can 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:30,840 do those things that thou would have us do, that we can listen and be open and 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,920 be able to learn and and understand and be able to make the decisions that thou 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,280 would be blessed and move forward with. And we 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:40,200 ask you to please bless and watch over those who are serving our country 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:44,280 and keeping us free and especially those who serve us locally in in the law 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,760 enforcement and fire and EMS that they'll be protected from harm and that 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,240 they'll be blessed for their efforts and the 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:54,040 things they do to keep us all safe. And we ask you to bless those who are in 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,640 special need of blessings from thee that stand in need of that that thou can 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,800 bless them and help them in their time of need. And we ask for these favors and 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,680 blessings and say these things in Jesus Christ's name. 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,000 » Amen. >> We will have our Treasurer Shawn 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,040 Thornley lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:12,440 » Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:19,120 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:26,080 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,080 justice for all. 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,760 » Thank you, Shawn and Lee. We appreciate that. 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:35,640 Um I need a motion to approve uh the 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,800 minutes from April 8th, 2026. >> I'll make a motion we approve the 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,960 minutes from April 8th, 2026. >> Second. 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:45,760 » We have a motion by Commissioner Perry and a second by Commissioner Bingham. 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:49,800 All in favor, say I. I. Thank you very much. 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,600 Okay, administrative review, reports and future agenda items. 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,560 Uh Commissioner Bingham. 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,760 » Uh I I >> Mr. Perry. 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:03,440 » Nothing at this time. >> And I have nothing as well. 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:07,080 » Okay, very good. Uh former agenda items? 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,479 Commissioner Perry? >> Nothing. 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,800 » Commissioner Bingham? >> Nope. 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,720 » Okay, very good. Uh 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,880 Mark emergency management issues. >> Nope. 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:20,600 » None? Okay, very good. Thank you. Um 41 00:02:17,959 --> 00:02:25,840 Box Elder County employee recognition. Um 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:29,440 we have chosen Ann Hansen. She has done 43 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,880 We have thrown some curve balls at her the last 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,360 few months that have been extremely hectic and so we really appreciate Ann 45 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:40,640 and all that she does for our county. So, if she would come up to receive this 46 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,640 award. 47 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:10,320 » Just so everybody knows Ann Annie is our county civil attorney and because of 48 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,680 that she has to deal with the commission as much as our county attorney does and 49 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:17,000 so we every time we have an issue or problem, we throw it to Annie and we 50 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:20,320 call Steve but then we really throw it to Annie and so she just ends up with a 51 00:03:18,519 --> 00:03:23,200 lot of the problems that we that we create or have happened from the 52 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,560 commission. So, we just really feel strongly that 53 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:30,080 she had does goes way above and beyond to help the county out. So, thank you. 54 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,360 » And the commissioners are hard on her because usually we you know, it's like 55 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,720 last minute things where we've done something and say, "Ann, what do you 56 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,200 think?" And she's like, "Oh my goodness." 57 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:43,680 So, we truly appreciate our attorney's office. Annie is she's awesome and she's 58 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:48,080 hard working and willing to help wherever we need her. So, thank you so 59 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,959 much, Ann. It's well deserved. Okay, 60 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:54,640 um ARPA and LATCF 61 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,720 and uh Sheryl Ann Arson's going to come and visit with us for a minute. 62 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:10,720 » Sherlene Larson, County Auditor. Um, the Sheriff's Department had approached me 63 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:15,959 about an additional $5,000 for same radio situation to make them all 64 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:20,560 communicate with each other and asked if they could get another 5,000 in the 65 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:26,120 LATCF funding. And so that's I'm bringing it to you. 66 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:30,480 » Okay. I'd make a motion that we approve the expenditure of the additional $5,000 67 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:33,560 for the handheld radio encryption. Um, out of the LATCF fund. 68 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:39,240 » Second. >> We have a motion from Commissioner Perry 69 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:43,600 and a second from Commissioner Bingham for fund usage 70 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,480 for $5,000 for a handheld radio encryption. 71 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,919 Uh All in favor? 72 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,600 » I. >> I. 73 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,760 » Motion [clears throat] passes. Thank you very much. 74 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:56,800 » So, could we have Commissioner Perry explain why we have to do that? 75 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:00,120 » Well, yeah, I mean we can have the Sheriff's office do it as well, but 76 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:04,280 yeah, what happened is um because of the split between the radio 77 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,919 the the because of some of the agencies that are on a different radio system, in 78 00:05:05,919 --> 00:05:10,840 order for our folks to be able to communicate what we had to do is change 79 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:14,880 and have some of our radios encrypted so that we can communicate effectively with 80 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:18,960 Brigham City, Tremonton, and Perry back and forth. And so this is 81 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,800 kind of what we have to do if we're going to make sure that public safety 82 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,160 can communicate with one another. So, it's we may have some more expenditure 83 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,480 before we're done because we are going to have to figure some things out and 84 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,919 work with some of our fire departments and EMS folks possibly in the future. 85 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:36,160 Right now, fire department luckily I don't have to be encrypted like law 86 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:39,200 enforcement does, so. >> Yeah, it was the it was the change that 87 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:44,000 Brigham City Tremonton, Garland, and and Perry did. 88 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,400 So, it's also that we we have to do this so that we can all communicate properly 89 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:51,200 and safety for our citizens as well as our 90 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,200 officers. 91 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:58,480 » Sherilyn, I'm glad you're still here. >> Right off the accounts receivable, old 92 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:03,560 fire billings. >> So, each year when our auditors come in, 93 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:08,120 we review our accounts receivable and there have been 94 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:12,760 four accounts that have been on since well before my time and 95 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:17,600 maybe even before Tom's time before me, but there's three account These are all 96 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:21,760 related to fire and they used to bill for 97 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:25,640 um call outs on fire to the owners of property or the people that caused the 98 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:30,640 fires. And so, we've got four that 99 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:36,360 as far as we can find any history on a date before 2013. 100 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:40,440 And the biggest one being a Whirly Bird Helicopters. 101 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:43,640 That's for 6,242, but it's our understanding they've gone 102 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:48,440 out of business and we've been able to reach anyone to ever get payment. So, 103 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:53,000 we're asking um that we can clear those off as a bad debt 104 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:57,240 going forward. And I reached out to Kevin who is our fire marshal and he 105 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,240 agreed. 106 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:03,680 » I'd make a motion that we allow our auditor to write off those account 107 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,754 receivable on the old fire billings. >> Second. 108 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,680 » We have a motion by >> [snorts and clears throat] 109 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:12,560 » Commissioner Perry and a second by Commissioner Bingham to 110 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:16,080 write off old fire billings. Uh is there any further discussion? If 111 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:20,120 not, all in favor? >> Aye. 112 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,120 » Aye. Motion passes. Thank you. 113 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:26,040 Updated consolidated fee schedule resolution and Sherilyn's going to 114 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:33,760 discuss that one with us as well. >> So, this is uh mostly related to the 115 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:38,680 updates to fairground fees along with some changes for the recorder's office 116 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:43,600 that they were required to update their fees as well. So, we're doing a few 117 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:48,720 updates to the fee schedule. This was very much done in coordination with 118 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:54,680 Annie and Jan. So, if you have further questions about that fee schedule and 119 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:59,000 the resolution, um you can ask who knows the answers. So. 120 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,240 » Okay, very good. Need a motion. 121 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,920 » So, one of the things I noticed we are going to where we're not going to be 122 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,680 using cash transactions. We're trying to going to make sure we're using credit 123 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,880 card transactions and and other electronic transactions to keep a better 124 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:17,040 tracking mechanism. >> I'm assuming that's part of the contract 125 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,240 also that you'll be looking at. >> Right. 126 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:24,800 » That's on the agenda that does state that we will do that online and e-checks 127 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,640 make it so they don't get charged a fee to do that. 128 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:32,479 » Perfect. >> Yep. I'd make a motion that we adopt the 129 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,400 resolution 2609 for the consolidated fee schedule. 130 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,360 » Second. >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry 131 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:41,560 and a second by Commissioner Bingham to adopt [snorts] 132 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,760 the consolidated fee schedule resolution for the fairgrounds. 133 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:46,200 If there's no further discussion, all in favor? 134 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,839 » I. >> I. 135 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,680 » Motion passes. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. 136 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:58,320 » Okay. We have uh a interlocal agreement number 137 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:02,800 26-15 between Box Elder County and the Military Installation uh Development 138 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:07,400 Authority, MAIDA, uh related to the Stratus project 139 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,640 area. Um Paul, 140 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,560 he's with MAIDA. If you can just tell us who you are and 141 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,839 we we'll get going. >> Thank you very much. Really appreciate 142 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:20,440 this opportunity. I'm Paul Morris. I'm the executive director and general 143 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:23,680 counsel for MAIDA. MAIDA, for those who don't know, stands 144 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:29,040 for the Military Installation Development Authority. It was created by 145 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:32,920 the Utah Legislature in 2007. I've been with the 146 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:35,920 MAIDA since 2008. Um 147 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:40,400 we're an organization and authority that was created specifically 148 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:44,760 uh for economic development with a military focus. 149 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:49,480 Uh the military is very important to Utah. 150 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:55,320 Um not just for our patriotic reasons, but because it is also an economic 151 00:09:52,640 --> 00:10:00,080 driver for the state of Utah. Uh people aren't aware sometimes that it rivals 152 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:04,080 the entire construction industry as far as the GDP annually over about $22 153 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:09,480 billion. Uh the Kem C. Gardner Institute does a 154 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:13,640 study every 3 years and uh it'll be even higher the next year. It employs it 155 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:18,520 rivals the whole construction industry for the whole state. The military rivals 156 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:23,840 it. But the but it employs more people than the military about 178,000 versus 157 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:28,520 we're talking about defense contractors and related military personnel. But it 158 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:33,800 pays about 30% more than the construction industry for the kind of 159 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:38,120 jobs that it has. So, I tell people that the state of Utah cares about the 160 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:41,680 military, but every county you down to Washington County and Juab County, we 161 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:45,960 should all care because the GDP is pretty significant that comes from the 162 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:50,160 military. Plus, we're all very proud Americans that we have such a incredible 163 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:54,320 military and a great presence here in the state of Utah. 164 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:58,560 MIDA has a seven has a seven-member board, five appointed by the governor, 165 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:02,760 one appointed by the speaker of the house, one by the president of the 166 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:08,600 Senate. Five of of the governor's five appointees, three must be local elected 167 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:14,280 officials from the at or near our project areas. And the highest or the 168 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:18,320 top revenue producing project areas always have to have permanent 169 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,000 appointee. The governor has to appoint somebody from the 170 00:11:19,839 --> 00:11:25,880 highest um revenue producing. MIDA has had great 171 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:30,920 success. We've I won't go through all of our projects, but we've uh by any 172 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:36,480 measure we have done very very well. At Hill Air Force Base for example, it 173 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:41,400 went from zero taxable value to 5,000 high-paying jobs that came from out of 174 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:47,240 state and now has about $600 million of taxable value. Um um along the 175 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:53,160 Hill Air Force Base that straddles the two counties down there. We have another 176 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:57,000 major project down in Wasatch County and that went from about $20 million of 177 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:00,680 taxable value to a little over $2 billion of taxable value and it'll 178 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:06,560 probably hit about four or five billion dollars of taxable value where we 179 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:10,120 support the morale, welfare, recreation. This specific of the way my data works 180 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:14,480 is we have to create a project area in 181 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:19,600 order to be able to do use the tools that the legislature gave us to help 182 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:23,760 both the state economic development generally, 183 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:28,720 help a local government, and also help the military. So, what is before you is 184 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:32,320 there was a group that came to the state of Utah and 185 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:36,160 they went to the governor's office of economic opportunity. It's going back to 186 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,520 the old name, governor's office of economic development, so GOED, as we 187 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,880 call it. And then they referred it because of the 188 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:47,320 military component of this data center and the kind of data center, 189 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,760 the hyperscale data center, and the military uses that would come from it. 190 00:12:49,633 --> 00:12:53,640 » [snorts] >> They referred it to my data. This was in 191 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:58,560 January, so we are working on it with the group. We get a lot of proposals 192 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:03,600 and we turn them down. Either they're not viable or they don't have a military 193 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:07,720 component. So, we hear a lot of things, but this one was unusual for both its 194 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:13,240 military and national security reasons as well as 195 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:16,560 its viability and economic opportunity it would bring. 196 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:21,520 Um they specifically focused on your county because you have some 197 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:25,600 several unique assets. One is the Ruby pipeline 198 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:30,960 where you it could generate power uh, a significant level and also because you 199 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:36,280 have redundant fiber. You have in the vicinity educated workforce, and we have 200 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:41,280 the universities and others that could could help 201 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:44,520 with the employment and and and such. So, when they looked at it, they 202 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:49,840 concluded Box Box Elder could be one of the best places in the entire country to 203 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:53,640 locate something like this. The interesting thing, and we we know 204 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:58,160 that this is a rural county, and we respect the rural nature of it. And some 205 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:03,320 of the things that we do in Wasatch County and that we do at Hill, we would 206 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:07,080 not propose to do here. We have Hill Northrop Grumman 207 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:11,080 uh, at Hill, and that's on 20 acres. It's 5,000 high-paying employees, which 208 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:15,800 is great in that area, but that wouldn't fit. That's not something that would 209 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:20,640 fit. But this seems to us, particularly given your interest and concern and need 210 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:24,560 about agricultural and wanted to keep that, that this is something that could 211 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:29,080 really work. When I look at it, and I've been at this economic development game 212 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:32,160 for 40 years and in in Utah. We're a governmental entity. We're not 213 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:37,480 quasi-governmental. So, there's no bonus program. We're I'm 214 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:43,600 here just to to do good for for the state and hopefully for you and for the 215 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:49,560 military. Um, but as I look at this, it seems to fit. It's one of the least 216 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:53,560 dense per acre as far as impact. It will have an impact. Probably several 217 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:58,360 thousand, not probably it'd have several thousand construction jobs, and once 218 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:02,280 those go away, about 2,000 permanent jobs that are high-paying jobs. 219 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:06,480 But it per acre, it's the least impactful of 220 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:10,880 what I've seen from commercial, industrial, and residential, but it's 221 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:16,080 the highest value per acre. It's a very interesting way that this could fit and 222 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:21,800 be compatible, dark sky compliant, out in a rural area, having ranchers and 223 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:24,800 grazing right next to its fence, um, 224 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:31,680 you know, low noise and and many ways very very very compatible 225 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:37,960 with what's going on. Okay, so how it works is we do not like to go MIEDA 226 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:41,720 where we're not welcome and wanted. So, we years ago went to the legislature 227 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:46,240 instead of we're going to have private land that's part of our project area in 228 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:49,320 addition to military land that we need the consent of the local government. 229 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:53,640 You're the local government because it's all all this is entirely contained 230 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:56,240 unincorporated county. So, we need your consent. 231 00:15:54,920 --> 00:16:00,240 And then number two, we need all the land owners consent. This is not like 232 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:05,880 assessments areas where you need 2/3 or 66%. MIEDA requires and I wrote the 233 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:09,680 legislation said I want it 100%. You want all the land owners 234 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,840 to say that yes, they would welcome and want to be part of a particular project 235 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,600 area. Um, the good news is we have the consent 236 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:21,320 of all of the land owners. This is about 40,000 acres spread between Locomotive 237 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:26,760 Alley, Hansel Valley, and then some near the freeway. All of the land owners have 238 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:30,960 signed the consent. And and are are supportive of what we're bringing here. 239 00:16:29,061 --> 00:16:34,920 [snorts] I have a letter from as a representative from one of their short 240 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:39,320 from one of the property owners. 241 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,320 Um, 242 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,680 uh, Jed Heaton. My name is Jed Heaton. I 243 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:49,520 have been working with the West Gen Co team for the last few months and teaming 244 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:53,520 um, and learning about the project and what it will be used for. I understand 245 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:57,839 the project and the need for power and computing for national security. Also, 246 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:02,560 the need for industrial manufacturing that is military focused. This location 247 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:06,480 was picked because of the gas pipeline and its location of large amounts of 248 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:10,839 flat buildable land. I signed the consent form for MIEDA and I'm will 249 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:15,280 and I am a willing participate in the project. I'm happy to have my land be a 250 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:20,439 part of it. And I think that's a representative of of the 251 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:26,199 of the of the landowners. Um the military 252 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:30,720 need. Um there is a desperate national security need to keep up with China and 253 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:34,840 other locations. We do not have the computing power 254 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:38,120 uh to do what needs to be done. It's and we don't have the power generally and 255 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:43,720 then we don't have the uh the computers that can um um 256 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:48,320 do the AI. Particularly, I'm focused on military and pentagon sorts of uses and 257 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:53,040 then of course there's the other uses. And we're talking a hyperscale data 258 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:58,840 center. Now, couple points. Data centers of the old have a bad reputation. They 259 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:03,240 call gobble up a lot of water. They use up your power and then and when 260 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:07,200 they're all built, they don't employ many people. 261 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:12,240 This is not that. This is a hyperscale compute. It is um 262 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:17,320 the latest technology is the power's usage is uh 263 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:21,240 is completely self-contained. 100% of the power will be generated off the Ruby 264 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:25,800 pipeline. It will not take uh one electron from the from the grid. 265 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:29,360 In fact, they believe that they'll eventually have excess power that 266 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:33,280 they'll be able to put back into the grid. 267 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:37,880 Um the water usage is minimal. The water that they're buying as part of getting 268 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:42,320 the land for both the cooling, it's not the evaporative cooling of old days. 269 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:46,960 It's uh it's circulated water that's reused. And the particular water has 270 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:51,080 brine in it. So, they're going to clean the water, use it for the cooling, and 271 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:55,480 then it will go back down into the aquifer and feed into the Great Salt 272 00:18:52,960 --> 00:19:00,480 Lake. So, I think it'll be a net gain to the Great Salt Lake. So, lower water 273 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:06,400 usage, self-contained on its power, and high high value. And then the last one 274 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:12,120 is the jobs. The jobs are are very high-paying jobs to run something this 275 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:16,680 mag- magnitude, scope, and scale. As far as the military use, I would like 276 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:20,640 to turn some time over to Colonel Owens. He is going to be the assistant adjutant 277 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:25,880 general for the National Guard, and he can describe why it's so important to 278 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,880 the military. Thank you. 279 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:36,560 » Commissioners, ladies and gentlemen, uh thank you for allowing me to address you 280 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,760 today. Um from a military standpoint, projects 281 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:47,360 like this matter. Our homeland is no longer a sanctuary. Our enemies have the 282 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:51,040 capability to touch us at home. So, national security has to be built 283 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:54,640 into our infrastructure from the start. Investments that strengthen energy 284 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:59,000 resilience and support critical systems help to ensure we're prepared for the 285 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:02,440 challenges ahead and are able to operate without interruption when it matters the 286 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:06,840 most. Thanks for letting me uh 287 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:10,240 address the the group today. Um 288 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:13,880 I can tell you that uh what the Mighty is doing here on the 289 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:18,520 national level as we compete against our enemies, China and Russia, um this is 290 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,320 going to help bridge those gaps, those capability gaps that we see well into 291 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,400 the future. Thank you. >> Will you just give your give your name 292 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,360 and stuff so we can have it on the record? 293 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:30,920 » So, my name is Andrew Owens. Um I'm a colonel in the Utah National 294 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:36,280 Guard. I serve as uh currently the director of the joint staff, and um in 295 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,720 June, I will be the assistant adjutant general army commander. 296 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:41,680 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 297 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,680 » Thank you. 298 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,760 » So, what you have on the agenda that's being discussed, I know you're not going 299 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,560 to vote on it today, but I wanted you just to say what the two different 300 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:57,760 things are. One is the consent. As I indicated, we needed double consent. You 301 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:01,520 have to consent as the uh land use authority, and then we needed the 302 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:05,560 landowners' consent. Uh is it that one's a simple resolution, 303 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:09,720 and the law says it has to be done by resolution. 304 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:16,560 Um the the second part is the interlocal agreement. So, as patriarch 305 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:20,680 as happy as we are to help the military, and we still needs to make economic 306 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:24,600 sense, okay? It needs to make economic sense for the state of Utah, and it 307 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:28,680 needs to make make sense for the military, and it needs to make sense for 308 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:32,320 you and the local government. And this one checks all of the boxes in an 309 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:36,240 incredible way. It's the biggest project I've ever been involved in. I've been in 310 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:39,960 a lot of big projects. Our entities had for a long time the number one and 311 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:43,360 number two economic develop- economic development projects for the 312 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:46,640 state of Utah. You could add both of those together, multiplying times 10, 313 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:50,640 and this is bigger than that. This is one of those once-in-a-generational 314 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:55,480 opportunities that we have. I happen to know of two states that would rather us 315 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,640 not do it. They'd rather us go slow and not figure it out because we're trying 316 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:02,720 to jump ahead of them. Right at this moment, there's things that are 317 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:07,880 happening, particularly on the power um the backlog of the power of 318 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:12,520 generators that are built. You've got many years out if you order today to get 319 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:16,520 the best technology. We have a unique opportunity to jump in front and 320 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:21,360 actually get some that are already allocated to an another state to have it 321 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:25,320 allocated to our state, and it's the best technology out there. It's the 322 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:30,840 number one for data centers. If we can capture that one, it's zero water 323 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:35,560 for the generators, zero. The other ones are low water. This is zero water. It's 324 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:38,840 all air cooled. And it's the lowest emissions out there. And so, we're 325 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:44,520 That's why we're working hard, not trying to push you, 326 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:49,120 not trying to push the state or my data or my board, except because we're aware 327 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:54,960 that there's a real competition because of the high value, low impact 328 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:58,320 comparatively that this brings. So, the So, but we got to make sure it makes 329 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:03,160 economic sense. So, what the interlocal agreement does is and we've done this as 330 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:08,200 Wasatch County with Hideout with the the different entities is we say, "Okay, how 331 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:11,480 are we going to be competitive?" So, some of the money that they're they're 332 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:16,520 going to generate the increase, a lot of that for the specifically the energy and 333 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:21,160 the data center has to go back into building water and sewer and storm drain 334 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:25,360 and roads and all of those sorts of things because we've 335 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:31,200 negotiated with the the developers 336 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:34,640 no requirement for un Box Elder County to subsidize you. 337 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:39,360 In fact, it has to be the opposite. You subsidize them. So, you have to put in 338 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:42,760 all the infrastructure and then dedicate it to the appropriate governmental 339 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:47,080 entity when that comes. So, we have a tax structure and MIDA 340 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:50,400 basically has two funds. You get a development fund that has certain 341 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,240 restrictions on how to use it. It's for development from that incremental 342 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,960 increase. The second one is municipal services 343 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:01,200 fund. And so, as we've looked at this, MIDA 344 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:05,280 has always liked to defer to the local government. You are the elected 345 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:08,760 official, so the better fund the better way for you to be funded is out of that 346 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:13,280 and use the other fund for the development and to the state of Utah and 347 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,920 to MIDA for the military. So, 348 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:22,120 that particular fund, municipal services, the way the law works is you 349 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:27,720 provide municipal services with that and then anything that's excess 350 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:31,760 you just use it however you want to. So, the proposal in this interlocal 351 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:35,640 agreement is that you would provide whatever municipal services you deem 352 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:39,160 appropriate. You don't have to give them more, don't 353 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:43,920 give them less, just what you would normally do for that 354 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:48,920 for the this kind of a development. And then, by default, anything that's 355 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:53,080 not needed for municipal services goes to the city or county that levies a 356 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:57,200 property tax. You're the only one that levies a property tax cuz this is 357 00:24:54,560 --> 00:25:01,840 entirely in the unincorporated county. So, therefore, you get that money. In 358 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:07,960 the agreement we're proposing that on the first phase, which is three 3 GW of 359 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:11,320 power, you will get a minimum of $30 annually. 360 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:16,480 And then when they've built this first phase out that we're describing, you'll 361 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:19,040 get $108 million annually. >> That's right. 362 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:24,200 Being a reporter, do you have any questions? 363 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:30,280 » Thir- $30 annually to the general fund and then $108 million annually 364 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:32,840 annually to the general fund with you deciding what's the best way to spend 365 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:37,160 that money. >> It goes back to [snorts] the taxpayer 366 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:40,520 for the last 20 years. >> What? Thanks, Tim. 367 00:25:38,612 --> 00:25:43,960 » [laughter] >> We'll we'll we'll look into that. 368 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:50,120 I appreciate this time. Um there's a lot I bore I could say, but I I don't want 369 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:54,920 to belabor it, but if you have any questions for me, I'd be glad to answer 370 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:58,520 them. Uh we have a board board meeting on Friday. And the reason we picked 371 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:02,400 Friday was because there were certain things that are happening nationally 372 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:06,760 where some decisions are being made about this this high-quality power. And 373 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:11,840 so, that's why we're having the board meeting on Monday to our Friday to 374 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:16,040 create the project area, to adopt the standards and guidelines that govern the 375 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:20,000 land use here, to make sure the agricultural uses are permitted, the 376 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:26,120 green belt continues on, there was going to be link leasebacks to 377 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:30,480 to the ranchers and such. Um and then we would adopt this inner our our side of 378 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:36,000 this interlocal agreement with you with such changes as your attorneys 379 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:39,160 um have that we need to make. And uh and then we would adopt the development 380 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:43,760 agreement with the with this particular group to incentivize them to do what we 381 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,880 need them to do in our our state and in Box Elder. Thank you very much. 382 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,800 » Hey Hey, Paul. Um >> Yes. 383 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:56,280 » Are you comfortable talking about um the upfront cost to the county. 384 00:26:52,800 --> 00:27:02,200 » Oh, yes. I That's a great point. Yes. So, they they proposed that they would 385 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:05,800 pay because there's about a 3-year leg a lag and that's 386 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:10,000 it's been a problem for me when I first started is you do all this work and you 387 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:14,280 have no money until the building's built and then finally the taxes start flowing 388 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:19,880 in and so we had that was always been a challenge is is to get to prime the pump 389 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,960 to make this thing happen. Well, um, 390 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:27,120 that you need some upfront cost cuz you don't want we don't expect they do not 391 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:31,680 expect you to subsidize them. And, and you came up with a number that 392 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,920 was more than I thought and they agreed to it and it's $16.2 393 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:40,080 million spread out over 3 years. So, on the when 394 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:43,720 they first get a building permit, that means construction workers are coming on 395 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:47,120 that first building permit, they pay you $5.2 million. 396 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:51,880 And again, you use it how you deem appropriate for providing services. The 397 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:57,160 next year, they pay another $5.2 million. The next year, they pay another 398 00:27:54,400 --> 00:28:01,920 $5.2 million and then by then the cash flow will start uh start coming in. So, 399 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:06,480 yeah, excellent point. >> So, the purpose of that is 400 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:12,240 we understand there's going to be added pressure on the sheriff's department, on 401 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:16,840 our fire department, on our EMS people. And so that's why we needed the funds to 402 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,000 to boost those different organizations so that we can provide the service that 403 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,120 we need to. >> Totally appropriate as well as roads and 404 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,440 infrastructure. Absolutely. >> Yes. 405 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,960 » And then I I did want to make one other point. In the interlocal agreement, we 406 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,400 always create we did this in our two other locations they've worked 407 00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:35,880 excellent. We create what's called a development review committee. 408 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:41,320 The executive director, my position or a designee, chairs that committee. The 409 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:46,600 other six members are all that you ask us to put. We ask for people like and we 410 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:51,560 recommend even a a landowner on there or the your planners, public works, your 411 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:55,440 fire people, the technical kind of people. Those are the ones that look at 412 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,360 all the subdivision, all the site plan, where are the roads going to go, where 413 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,880 are they building and they're the ones that have to approve that. And as six of 414 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:08,160 the seven are all people that you want to have on that on that board. And it's 415 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,920 worked out really well in Wasatch County and in our 416 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:15,560 Hill Air Force Base project. We've had We've had years of experience with them. 417 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,280 Works excellent. Thank you. >> Thanks, Paul. Thanks, Paul. 418 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,800 » Well, we are grateful for you folks being here today. I mean, that's one of 419 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:29,280 the things, you know, as this come before us and 420 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,560 there's been some hiccups in the road that's uh 421 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:36,320 caused us to want to slow down a little bit. One of the big things that that the 422 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:40,800 commission talked about was making sure that we involved um our folks in our 423 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:45,760 county, that our citizens had the opportunity to come and and hear what 424 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:50,240 this was about and and somewhat try to understand this. I I don't know how you 425 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:54,480 feel, but I remember when Paul came and they first talked to us, I felt like I 426 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:59,080 was drinking out of a fire hose and trying to digest all of this 427 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,480 so quickly and trying to understand this. 428 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:06,080 Um And so, that's why uh 429 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:10,360 these two items we're going to table today. But 430 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:15,280 one of the big things is we wanted you, our community and our county to be 431 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:20,440 involved. I I mean, this project looks exciting and the potential investment, 432 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:24,400 job creation sounds great. Um but we want to make sure this project's done in 433 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:30,480 the right way. We want to protect our agricultural heritage, maintain and we 434 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:34,400 want to maintain local control and uh and also address the concerns of our 435 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,280 residents. The commissioners and the county 436 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:41,640 attorney uh attorneys are taking time to fully review the interlocal agreement 437 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:46,640 and understand it. And uh so, that's why we're not ready at 438 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:53,000 this time to, um, to make a decision on the interlocal 439 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:56,920 agreement, uh, as well as, um, the resolution. 440 00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:00,320 Um, we just want to make sure that, uh, we're taking time to be thorough in 441 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:05,080 understanding everything and making sure that all of the players, uh, especially 442 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:08,840 the commission and our attorneys, all understand the project and understand 443 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:13,400 what we're doing. We don't want to just jump into something and down the road, 444 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:18,160 uh, have it come back to bite us in and and have a problem. And then just to 445 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:24,280 make sure that, uh, the property land the private property land owners that 446 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:27,120 are involved, uh, in this project are being taken care of. 447 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:32,360 That that we make sure that they understand and and are aware of the 448 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:37,680 impacts and those type of things, uh, which will, um, make sure that we're 449 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:41,480 strong in the future as well. So, um, I would just like to ask those 450 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:46,720 who, uh, have land in the project area that 451 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:51,520 are actually going to be, uh, impacted by this project, who are in favor to 452 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,520 raise your hands. 453 00:31:52,560 --> 00:32:00,000 Okay, those that have property in the impact area 454 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,000 that are opposed, raise your hands. 455 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,120 Okay. Very good. Um, 456 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,040 » How about all of us in the impact area that are 457 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,680 undecided [clears throat] because we need more information? 458 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:14,520 » Well, and that's the honestly that's the reason we're where we're at. Is we want 459 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:20,200 to make sure that that there's more information to you to you folks, so you 460 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:24,840 understand this project. And it's, like I say, the commissioners, um, 461 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:29,680 as we addressed this and went, uh, and had meetings, um, 462 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:33,320 I I I wanted to be able to understand it better as well, but most important thing 463 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:38,720 that the commission discussed and and visited about was making sure that our, 464 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:42,280 um, citizens had information. That they knew what was going on. And Paul, we 465 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:47,520 realize the urgency in those type of things, but again, um as we've 466 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:50,720 discussed, uh we just need some some time to digest some things. 467 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,160 » Mr. Chair, I just want to point out the fact that 468 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:57,080 the commission has not been sitting on this for months. Um this is as is 469 00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:00,200 pointed out, it it started or back in January, February. The commission has 470 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,480 only been made aware of it in the last couple of weeks, and so that's where 471 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,600 we're at at this point. We're trying trying to absorb the information at this 472 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:11,960 point, and that's one of the reasons the commission can't go forward today 473 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,960 with this particular resolution. So. 474 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:18,840 » Okay, very good. Um again, those of you who would like to make comments, please 475 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:23,520 fill out uh fill out the the uh forms. Um you we we 476 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:30,240 will give you an opportunity to speak as to this in our public comment period. Um 477 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:34,160 because of the might of the investors' sensitive timeline on this project, we 478 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:38,640 would like to notify the public that there will likely be a special set 479 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:42,560 county commission meeting to readdress the interlocal agreement and provide 480 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:47,360 consent before the next regularly scheduled commission meeting. 481 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:51,480 The meeting will be noticed at least 24 hours in advance as required by state 482 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,360 law. So. 483 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:59,800 Anyway, if you would like to speak to that, please fill a form out, and uh 484 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:04,120 we'll give you an opportunity in our uh public comment period. So, but we really 485 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:09,639 appreciate you being here. Paul, thank you, and Colonel, thank you for you guys 486 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:12,320 and and your time, and so. Okay, uh 487 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,399 » So so uh do we need a motion to 488 00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:17,960 » Yeah, we need a motion to to table the >> items 9A and 9B. 489 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:23,360 » Yep. >> I will make a motion that we table items 490 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,560 9A and 9B on our agenda today. >> We have a motion by Commissioner 491 00:34:24,399 --> 00:34:27,919 Bingham. >> I'll second it. 492 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,639 » And second by Commissioner Perry. If there's no further discussion, all in 493 00:34:29,879 --> 00:34:32,560 favor? >> I. 494 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,800 » Thank you. >> We have a different resolution that we 495 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,993 want to propose or not? >> What's that? 496 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:41,960 » Do we have another resolution that we >> [cough] 497 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:45,360 » So, yeah, if we could have Annie, we have a 498 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:49,080 resolution that we do want to talk about though in dealing with this. So, 499 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:55,399 » Um based off of the discussions that we've had that I've had with you on the 500 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,000 commission, um 501 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:03,800 you wanted to instead of passing consent by resolution during this meeting, um we 502 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:08,520 prepared a resolution that talks about the importance of the project, outlines 503 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:13,680 the details um that Mr. Morris has shared, and um 504 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:20,200 just extends the county's um intent to engage and to look into the full 505 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:25,840 benefits for the county along with um what other impacts and outcomes might 506 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:30,200 might come just to demonstrate that um your participation with MYDA on looking 507 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:33,960 into this project. And then that will get you through until 508 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,680 um you may be ready in the future to consent officially. 509 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,760 » Okay. So, I [snorts] have 510 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:44,760 » Any motions? >> So, I have a motion. It's um amended. 511 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:47,640 It's an amended resolution 2610. Um it's a resolution of Box Elder County 512 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,840 Commission to engage with the Military Installation Development Authority on 513 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,800 exploring the opportunity to have a private land located in unincorporated 514 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,960 Box Elder County included in the Stratus projected area. And I would make a 515 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,600 motion to to pass that resolution at this time. 516 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:06,720 » Second. We have a motion by Commissioner Perry to pass resolution 2610 and a 517 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,720 second by Commissioner Bingham. >> The amended 2610. 518 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:14,840 » Excuse me, amended 2610. We have a motion by Commissioner Perry 519 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:17,280 and a second by Commissioner Bingham. If there's no further discussion, all in 520 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,000 favor? >> I. 521 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,000 » Okay, thank you. 522 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,000 Okay. >> [clears throat and cough] 523 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:29,960 » And number 10 on the community development, 524 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:34,985 Garland 300 South Corridor Preservation Fund request by Scott Lyons. 525 00:36:32,965 --> 00:36:34,985 » [clears throat] 526 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,755 » Thanks, Scott. >> Thank you. 527 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,775 All right. >> [cough and clears throat] 528 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:54,960 » First item is a quarter preservation fund request 529 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:59,160 by Garland City for the 300 South roadway between Main Street and 100 530 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:05,680 West. So, Garland is proposing to rebuild this 531 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:11,680 portion of roadway and as part of that they have requested of the cog and the 532 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:14,960 county commission funding out of the the local transportation quarter 533 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:21,240 preservation fund. This has been reviewed by staff. There's 534 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:25,640 a scoring matrix that it goes through. The minimum score required to be 535 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:30,360 considered for funding is 15 points and this project scored 15 points. 536 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:35,440 Uh it went to the cog for review and for 537 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:40,240 their decision. And the cog 538 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:46,880 decided they made a motion to fund the project. Um 539 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:51,040 the request the requested amount by Garland City was $295,318. 540 00:37:51,840 --> 00:38:00,840 That fund the current balance is just over $120,000 currently. 541 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:06,000 Uh so, the cog's motion recommended that it be funded up to $120,000. 542 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,600 Um I don't know if you have any questions on it 543 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,040 or if there's anything else you'd like me to cover. 544 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:18,120 » not for right-of-way? >> Correct. It's an existing existing 545 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:22,120 roadway that they wanted to improve. >> This roadway is not impacted by the 546 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,640 current inland port project that have up there, is that correct? 547 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,000 » Not that I'm aware of. >> Okay. 548 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:36,600 » Okay. I I'd make a motion that we approve uh 549 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:40,080 the Garland 300 South Quarter Preservation Fund request that's been 550 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,760 presented by Scott Lyons. >> Second. 551 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:46,960 » We have a motion to approve the Quarter Preservation Fund request by Garland 552 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,320 uh Commissioner by Commissioner Perry and a 553 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:53,360 second by Commissioner Bingham. Is there any further discussion? 554 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:57,200 All in favor, say I. >> I. 555 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,200 » Motion passes. Thank you. 556 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:04,720 » Next item I have is a Quarter Preservation Fund request by Willard 557 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:09,960 City. This one is for right of way acquisition. Uh the 558 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:15,880 total right of way acquisition cost is $60,400. 559 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:22,520 The city is proposing to contribute 25% of that, and they are requesting out of 560 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:30,360 the Quarter Preservation Fund $45,300. Um this project uh for for large cities 561 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:35,600 uh the minimum score required to be eligible for funding is 25 points, and 562 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:41,720 this project scored 37 points. So, it was well above the minimum. Uh this 563 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:48,560 project staff feels is exactly what this fund was established for. Um and this 564 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:53,800 one went to the COG as well, and the COG approved the request for $45,300. 565 00:39:54,520 --> 00:40:00,160 » Hey, I will make a motion that we approve Willard City's request for the 566 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:04,040 300 East Quarter Preservation Fund request of $45,300 567 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,480 for right of way acquisition. 568 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:11,000 » I'll second it. >> Have a motion by Commissioner Bingham 569 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:15,800 and a second by Commissioner Perry to approve Willard's request on the 300 570 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:19,400 East Quarter Preservation Fund. Uh 571 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:22,920 if there is no other um 572 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,720 if if no other comments, all in favor? >> Aye. 573 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,840 » Aye. >> Motion passes. Thank you. 574 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:31,720 » Uh next item is uh memorandum of understanding. 575 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:36,240 Uh we have it listed as agreement 2617. 576 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:40,880 This would be between the Box Elder County and the BLM 577 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:44,440 regarding the High Desert Trail. So, the High Desert Trail 578 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:50,840 um is a trail that extends from Washington County. So, basically the 579 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:56,320 southern point of Utah to uh Snowville, the northern point of Utah. Um 580 00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:02,600 and so, each county would participate in this MOU 581 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:07,120 between Box Elder County and the BLM as part of an environmental assessment 582 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:12,320 that the BLM does. Essentially, what the county does is say, "Here's your point 583 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:16,480 of contact um for any questions you may have as you are conducting your 584 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:20,920 environmental assessment, and that point of contact will assist you as needed 585 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:27,320 throughout that process." Um I anticipate for our portion of that, 586 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,800 it will be incredibly minimal. Our portion of the High Desert Trail through 587 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,720 Box Elder County is using existing county roads. 588 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:38,320 Um so, there would be no new trail cut through BLM land or anything like that. 589 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:43,120 So, uh but with that said, uh 590 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:47,680 we can either choose to be a cooperating agency through that process or we can 591 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:51,560 decline. They do require a reason for declination, but uh 592 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:59,840 anyway, so. >> I'd make a motion that we approve um 593 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:03,520 the MOU with the BLM in Box Elder County 2617 for the High Desert Trail 594 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:07,240 environmental assessment. We've been working on this project with the other 595 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,560 counties for quite some time, so I think it's necessary we continue to do that. 596 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,760 » Second. >> I have a motion by Commissioner Bingham 597 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:20,240 or by Commissioner Perry to approve Box Elder County and BLM MOU 598 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:24,160 number 26-17 for the High Desert Trail environment 599 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,040 and as second by Commissioner Bingham. If there's no further discussion, all in 600 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,040 favor say I. >> I. 601 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:34,680 » Motion passes. Thank you. >> Yeah. So, next item is a surplus 602 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:39,560 property request. Uh this came before you a few weeks back. An adjacent 603 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:44,920 property owner to a uh sliver parcel in Perry City 604 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:48,640 was interested in in acquiring that property. 605 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,640 Um 606 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,240 between now and then I've done a little bit of research and 607 00:42:52,869 --> 00:42:56,880 » [clears throat and cough] >> the 608 00:42:54,280 --> 00:43:03,720 the parcel is listed in our recorder's database as 0.06 acres in size. Um I 609 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:08,200 it looked larger than that on our web map, so I got in touch with the 610 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:11,400 recorder's office to and asked them if they could dig into it a little bit and 611 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:16,600 find out more information on this property. Um the pro the county obtained 612 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:20,160 possession of the property in via 613 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:26,400 tax deed in 1999. Um with that said, after consulting with 614 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:30,360 the recorder's office, their recommendation, they kind of dove into 615 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:37,480 it, went down a little bit of a rabbit hole, is that the if 616 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:42,320 if the property owner is interested in acquiring this, that a survey be done. 617 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,760 Um there's some conflicting property lines, deeds, and other things like that 618 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:52,480 in that area. Um otherwise, it is unclear enough that 619 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:56,360 if no survey is done that that the recorder's office 620 00:43:54,160 --> 00:44:02,240 would recommend that it not be surplussed. 621 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:07,160 » So, uh would the potential purchaser pay for that survey? 622 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:10,680 » Correct. If they want it done, yeah. >> So, we're kind of waiting for that to 623 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:14,480 happen type thing then? >> So, 624 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:17,960 yeah. I mean, I I I haven't spoken with them specifically about that yet. 625 00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:21,320 Uh discussed this with the recorder, I 626 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,840 think on Monday, um and then wanted to bring it before 627 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,000 you so that you could give us some direction there. If that is your 628 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,160 direction, then I'll get back to the landowner and let him know that that's 629 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:35,320 the direction that's what the county commission feels on this before starting 630 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,800 the surplus pro the surplus disposal process. 631 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,600 » So, because of the boundary issue, you don't know exactly how large the parcel 632 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,760 is? >> Correct. 633 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:47,560 Yeah. And I I know Chad's here. If you have 634 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:51,360 additional questions, he knows more about the specifics of it than I do 635 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:56,920 having, you know, his department and his background knowledge in in legal 636 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,920 descriptions and all of that. So, 637 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,080 » Do you want to come talk to us for a second, Chad, just to make sure I 638 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,200 I mean, right now I'm inclined to say if they want to have it assessed and come 639 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,240 or have it surveyed and come back, then I would be willing to possibly put it on 640 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,760 the surplus, but >> And I think the questions that were 641 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:16,520 provided in your packet as far as if we go to surplus, I think those can be 642 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:22,800 addressed at the time, like if the survey is done, 643 00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:25,560 right, then that can be addressed. >> So, Chad Montgomery, Box Elder County 644 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,800 Recorder. The 645 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:32,640 The issue is that the the acreage doesn't match the the legal description. 646 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:36,840 It's all based on lessers. As we drew the surrounding parcels, it 647 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:40,320 looks like the gap extends further north than what is actually shown on the web 648 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:44,520 map. Um because that's unclear, they come 649 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:48,160 from separate section corners, and they don't tie to each other. 650 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,920 It looks like the one to the north actually should be, if it's tied 651 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,920 properly, should be the road on the east side rather than 652 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,800 the west side. But, based on the description that's 653 00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:01,080 currently used from when it went to tax sale, 654 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:06,320 um it would be a much larger parcel and could cause some conflicts with other 655 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:09,880 landowners. And I don't think we want to create any issues with additional 656 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:13,360 landowners. And that's why we suggested that we 657 00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:18,080 have them get a survey for the particular parcel that they were 658 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,080 interested in for surplusing. 659 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,240 » Yeah, I think we I think we ought to wait to have a survey. 660 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,480 » Do we need a motion to that effect? Do you Would you like a motion to that 661 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,760 effect? >> Uh I don't know that you need a motion, 662 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,320 but uh >> direction from 663 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,200 » Direction that I think they have to have a survey before they can bring it back 664 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,040 before we can feel good about putting it for 665 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,240 » Yeah. >> Then we can vote on it. 666 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:39,240 » It's still Okay. 667 00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:39,240 » Thank you. Thanks, Chad. 668 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:48,360 » All right. So, my next item is the ordinance 649. This is a request for a 669 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:52,320 zoning map amendment in the Tremonton area. 670 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:55,520 More specifically, third ward area, if you're familiar with that. It's kind of 671 00:46:53,720 --> 00:47:00,640 southeast or sorry, southwest of Tremonton. 672 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:03,360 Um it's approximately 1,362 acres. 673 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:07,600 This one consisted of multiple landowners requesting that their 674 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:11,880 property in a joint application requesting that their property 675 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:16,080 uh change from unzoned to the agricultural heritage zone. 676 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:20,040 This went to the planning commission in March on March 19th. 677 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:24,880 Public hearing was held uh and the planning commission following 678 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:28,480 that public hearing process recommended approval to the county commission. 679 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:36,520 » Hey, I will make a motion that we approve ordinance 649 to rezone from 680 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:38,680 unzoned to ag heritage zone 1,362 acres. 681 00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:42,280 » I'll second it. >> We have a motion by Commissioner Bingham 682 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:49,000 and a second by Commissioner Perry to approve six number 649 rezone 683 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:52,480 um from unzoned to ag heritage zone as presented. Any further discussion? All 684 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,080 in favor say aye. >> Aye. 685 00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:00,680 » Okay, and then the final one, ordinance 650. This is 686 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:07,440 uh similar. This one is requesting to rezone 687 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:11,840 approximately 1,622 acres. This one's located in the Garland 688 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:17,440 and Riverside area. Similarly, that area zone is unzoned, 689 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:21,920 and this property owner is requesting that his property be rezoned to the 690 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:25,560 agricultural heritage zone as well. Um 691 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:30,440 and this one went to the planning commission in April on April 16th. 692 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:35,440 Public hearing was held, and the planning commission forwarded a 693 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,440 recommendation of approval. 694 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:43,480 » So, I will make a motion to approve ordinance number 650 to rezone from 695 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:46,920 unzoned to ag heritage zone, 1,622 acres in the 696 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,760 Garland Riverside area. >> I'll second it. 697 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:56,360 » We have a motion by Commissioner Bingham and a second by Commissioner Perry 698 00:48:52,000 --> 00:49:00,400 to appro- to approve number 650 rezone from unzoned to ag heritage zone as 699 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,080 presented. If there's no further discussion, all in 700 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,560 favor? >> Aye. 701 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:09,560 » Aye. >> Motion passes. 702 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,080 » And my final item will move to a future meeting. Thank you. 703 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,240 » Okay. >> Thanks, Scott. 704 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,240 » Thanks, Scott. 705 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:23,960 » Okay. Uh number 11 under fairgrounds is going to come and talk to us about uh 706 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:28,040 facility use agreement. Number 707 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,040 and number 26-12. 708 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:38,840 » This facility use agreement 26-12 um will update the agreement between Box 709 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:44,720 Elder County and Lola Baker, um often known as the boot lady, with 710 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:51,400 the rental of exhibit hall number three out at the county fairgrounds. Um it 711 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:56,280 updates the monthly amount um required for rent. Um 712 00:49:53,800 --> 00:50:02,520 and stipulates that the agreement expires in February of 2027. 713 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:08,160 Um in speaking with Lola, she is working on her new location and so 714 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:12,840 she will keep us in the county updated county commission updated on if she is 715 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:19,040 able to move before then or if she requires some additional time. 716 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,040 » Very good. 717 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,720 » So you need a motion? >> Yep. 718 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:27,640 » I'll make a motion we approve facility use agreement 26-12 719 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,920 fairgrounds building. >> I'll second it. 720 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:36,160 » We have a motion by Commissioner Bingham and a second by Commissioner Perry to 721 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:39,920 approve agreement number 26-12 as presented. Is there any further 722 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,840 discussion? If not, all in favor say I. 723 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,200 » I. >> I. 724 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,200 » Motion passes. Thank you. 725 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,400 » Are you ready for me on the next? >> Yes, I'm ready for the next one. 726 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,560 » Okay. >> Sorry. 727 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:03,600 » No, you're fine. On this next one, um the attorney's office has been working 728 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:09,120 in conjunction with um Commissioner Tyler, Jan with the fairgrounds, and 729 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:14,400 Sherlene in the auditor's office to update the current horse stall 730 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:20,760 rental agreement. Um once this is put in place, we'll be able to follow up with 731 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:25,640 the current um renters to if if they're willing and able to meet the new 732 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:29,680 requirements to renew um their agreement to continue. As of 733 00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:36,160 this time, just to update you on the status, they were given until I think it 734 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:39,680 was June 12th or right around there >> Right. 735 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:45,240 » in the original notice um to vacate. And so, as long as we're able to help them 736 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:50,000 renew this agreement before June 12th, um there should be no impact to them. 737 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:53,880 And then additionally, we're working with the others on special equipment 738 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:57,800 that's there at the grounds. But the updated agreement and it is very 739 00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:02,720 comprehensive, much longer than what we had in place before, just to cover the 740 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:07,400 liability of the county and to ensure that, um, both the renter and the county 741 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:11,240 are on the same page as to what's allowed in and what would is not allowed 742 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,240 in what would require special permission, um, through Jan or through 743 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,160 the commission. >> It looks like it's very similar to what 744 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:20,840 I noticed Cache County has something similar. Utah State has something very 745 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:24,600 similar. So it's basically protecting us similar to those folks as well. So 746 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:28,960 » It should. And in this agreement, that's where it removes the option for cash 747 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:33,960 payments on horse stall rentals, but does allow for not only the online 748 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:38,000 credit card payments, but also an e-check or an electronic checking 749 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:41,480 account option. So that hopefully that will be a fit for everyone. 750 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,720 » Great. Very good. I'd make a motion that we approve the 751 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,240 updated standard horse stall month-to-month rental agree- the form 752 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,000 agreement. >> Second. 753 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:53,280 » We have a motion by Commissioner Perry and a second by Commissioner Bingham to 754 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:58,360 approve the updated standard horse stall month-to-month rental agreement form as 755 00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:00,680 presented by Ann Hansen. If there's no further discussion, all in favor? 756 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,920 » Aye. >> Aye. 757 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,920 » Motion passes. Thank you, Ann. 758 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,800 Okay, Recorder's Office. Uh 759 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,080 Hi, Chad. >> Hello. 760 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:18,680 » You're going to talk to us about the Common Chain, uh, LLC agreement. 761 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:24,000 » Yes. Chad Montgomery, county recorder. So I'm here to talk 762 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:28,840 about, uh, the agreement 2613 with the company Common Chain LLC. 763 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:34,320 Um, this does two things for the Recorder's Office. Um, it'll it uses, 764 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:38,160 um, it's used as a backup. So we'll have a a 765 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:43,000 separate online issue so that when things happen, like 766 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:46,400 what happened in August, the the title industry will still have a second option 767 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:50,280 that's cloud-based to be able to still do their 768 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:53,960 um title searches and things and keep that economy moving. 769 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:58,880 Um so that was the biggest reason that we wanted to go with them. 770 00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:03,200 The second reason was to They provide They take all of our historical 771 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:06,800 documents that we now have scanned, and they will 772 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:09,840 using AI index all that information and put it in, which will significantly 773 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:14,320 reduce the cost to the county. Other 774 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:19,000 um An important thing to note is that other groups that 775 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:22,200 that can do this would cost the county a dollar per 776 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,960 document to do that, and with so many historical things that would be a huge 777 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:29,760 cost. The nice thing about this company is 778 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:34,720 that there's no cost to the county. Their Their money in this is all through 779 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:39,520 the title searches that they provide, and and any copies that are made from 780 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:44,240 that go back to the the county at the normal fee that we 781 00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:49,120 have in our fee structure. Um so with the fact it doesn't cost us any money, 782 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:53,440 we get all the benefit from that. That's and we get the backup option. 783 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:56,400 That That's why I'm asking the commission to 784 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,240 go with this agreement with Common Ground. 785 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:04,640 » So I mean do they have any guarantees that in the event of a hack that their 786 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:10,680 cloud-based system will protect you? >> So it's a it's a completely separate 787 00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:13,680 thing, so we only we upload once a week. And so there's not a continual 788 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:17,320 connection there. >> network then. 789 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:21,160 » No, and so it's completely separate. So that's one of the things, and we had the 790 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:25,040 contract reviewed by the attorney's office, and they made sure that those 791 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:29,080 kind of things were the important things were included in that, but with that 792 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:34,160 separation where it's not a constant communication, if one or the other goes 793 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,200 down, it should not affect the other. And that was an important thing for us 794 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,200 as well. >> Yeah. 795 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:45,280 » Okay, well, I will make a motion that we approve the Common Chain LLC agreement 796 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,320 number 26-13. >> I'll second it. 797 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:53,600 » We have a motion by Commissioner Bingham Bingham and a second by Commissioner 798 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:57,920 Perry to approve the Common Chain LLC agreement number 26-13 as presented by 799 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,760 Chad Montgomery. If there's no further discussion, all in 800 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,400 favor say I. >> I. 801 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,640 » Motion passes. Thanks, Chad. Appreciate you. 802 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:13,120 All right, under the Treasurer's office, request of forgiveness on interest and 803 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:19,280 penalties for the unpaid property tax on parcel 05 804 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,280 0-53-01 805 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,320 09, Heather Murphy. >> Hi. 806 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:27,720 » How are you? You going to come Can you You want to come up? 807 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,080 » Sorry. >> Sean's going to come. 808 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:35,720 We just want to have you up there with us. 809 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,720 » Do you want all that papers? 810 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:44,520 Um Um my 2025 811 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,200 taxes just got done this morning. >> Yeah, tell us who you are. Yeah, we need 812 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:50,160 to know who you are. >> Hi, I'm Heather Murphy [clears throat] 813 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:53,520 and I used to live in Box Elder County a couple and while I was living here a 814 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,800 couple decades ago, my paternal grandparents passed away and 815 00:56:55,160 --> 00:57:01,520 instead of paying down my mortgage on my house, I decided to purchase a small 816 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:06,200 building on Main Street in Tremonton across from the old bell tower on the 817 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:11,320 same street that my dad was born on in 1940. It was a good thing I did buy that 818 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,840 um commercial building because the rent 819 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:18,840 from it has kept me and my five kids afloat when my husband left us 10 years 820 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:22,800 ago when my baby was youngest and I had no job or training. 821 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:28,360 I'm here today because I failed to pay my property tax on the building in 2022 822 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:32,760 through 2025. And 823 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:35,840 how in the world did I not notice that I didn't pay it? 824 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:42,080 I will tell you. Um 825 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:46,600 I went I remarried in 2022 and moved and failed to contact the tax collector 826 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:52,320 county to get my property tax bill address changed and so where I wasn't 827 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:58,240 receiving the notice I didn't notice plus I wasn't um 828 00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:02,440 at my my second husband was paying our taxes and 829 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:05,600 I didn't, you know, didn't notice that I mean 830 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:09,840 he was doing our taxes and he didn't notice that 831 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:14,560 we weren't paying and um and I was having a a lot of challenges 832 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:21,520 with my second marriage and at the beginning of 2025 I went 833 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,520 through a divorce and now I'm in the 834 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:27,680 process of rebuilding and taking full responsibility of my finances and tax 835 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:32,000 obligations again. As part of that I recently became aware 836 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:35,840 of the unpaid taxes while preparing my 2025 filings. 837 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:40,680 And I am working to get everything caught up as quickly as possible. 838 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:44,120 Since my divorce my income has decreased significantly which makes the 839 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:47,760 accumulated penalties and interest a much greater financial hardship at this 840 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,720 time. I take responsibility for not catching 841 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:54,440 this sooner and I'm committed to ensuring 842 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:59,200 that all future tax notices are properly received and monitored so 843 00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:02,680 this doesn't happen again. So given the circumstances specifically 844 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:07,160 the lack of notice due to the address change, the significant life transitions 845 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:12,280 of moving and getting married and all those things um and my current financial 846 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:15,680 hardship I I respectfully request that the county consider waving or reducing 847 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:18,200 the penalties and interest that have occurred. 848 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:26,040 » Sure. Sean, you want to tell us what the penalties and interest are that we're 849 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:30,880 talking about? >> Yeah. So this is I just to make clear 850 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:33,560 it's not a tax sale property. Uh 851 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:38,360 penalties and interest uh amount to a total of $1,005.35. 852 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:45,280 » Okay. And can you substantiate to me the fact that 853 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:48,400 we sent the letters out where we do we know if we were getting them getting 854 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:51,160 letters coming back to us or did they just 855 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,120 » Probably or else the person that was receiving them just threw them away, but 856 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,800 » Okay. >> Yeah, they were going to the wrong 857 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,960 address. >> So it is they were not getting to her 858 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,640 and that's so the >> Yeah, they weren't getting to her. They 859 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,120 had the wrong address on. They had the previous address, right? 860 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,960 » Okay. >> So Shawn, because you're saying it's not 861 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:10,000 a tax sale, that means we haven't reached 5-year limit? 862 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:14,240 » That's right. It's 4 years delinquent at this point. 863 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:18,400 » So I have a question for you. So if if we decide to 864 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,200 do away with the penalty and the interest, are you going to be able to 865 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:27,000 catch up on your taxes? >> Yes, I have a a HELOC that's a 8% 866 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:32,880 currently 8% interest rate and I will um pay that. I will get caught up today. 867 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,600 I will take use that loan to to get caught up. 868 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,640 » That's that's awesome. That's what I That's what I like to hear actually, the 869 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,120 fact you're going to catch up on your taxes. That's great. 870 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:42,000 » I'm really embarrassed. >> Well, that that is the fact you're 871 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:45,880 willing to to do what you've done to go out and get a HELOC to get take care of 872 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:48,080 your taxes is impressive. We sometimes don't always see that either, so I'm 873 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,520 impressed that you're willing to do that. With that, I would make a motion 874 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:57,280 that we do forgive the interest and penalties on the unpaid property taxes 875 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,280 for parcel 50-53-0109. 876 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:03,200 » I'll second that. >> We have a 877 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:07,920 motion by Commissioner Perry and a second by Commissioner Bingham to waive 878 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:12,760 the uh interest and penalties on the unpaid property tax on parcel 879 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,760 050-53-0109, 880 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:20,200 Heather Murphy, as uh presented. Is there any further 881 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,120 discussion? All in favor, say aye. >> Aye. 882 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:26,160 » Motion passes. Thank you. 883 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,160 » Thank you so much. 884 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:32,320 » Okay, request forgiveness on interest and 885 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:35,880 penalties for the unpaid property tax on parcel 031-25-0103, 886 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,320 Larry Stevens. 887 01:01:44,722 --> 01:01:46,742 » [snorts] 888 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:09,440 » Yes, it is. >> My name is Larry Stevens and I'm the 889 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:15,120 owner of this. My mother-in-law actually gave it to my wife. My wife has been in 890 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:20,160 the hospital for quite a big time now and I'm legally blind 891 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:23,760 and so I haven't had a uh 892 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:28,080 way to pay all these things and everything because of all the situations 893 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:32,000 anyway. Long story short is I was trying to wave that where I will pay the whole 894 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:36,840 amount. I just wanted to see if I could get the 895 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:40,520 wave the uh fees and the interest rate for it so I can come up with the rest of 896 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:44,000 the amount. I have the money for that but 897 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:48,640 » What is the penalties and interest, Shawn? Can you tell us that? 898 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:55,360 » Yeah. Um This is a tax sale property. 899 01:02:51,960 --> 01:03:01,480 And uh it's also a secondary residence which makes the taxes quite a bit higher 900 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:07,240 than a primary residence. The taxes uh well, the penalties and interest 901 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,240 combined are $3,374.47. 902 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,600 » How much are the taxes? 903 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:22,480 » You know, taxes are almost twice as much what they 904 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:26,840 of what they would be if it was a primary residence. So, the taxes the 905 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,840 total taxes owing for 5 years is $14,775.13. 906 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:36,920 » We do I live there about 6 months of the year. 907 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:39,880 So, we go back and forth and down there. Whenever we have to do 908 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,160 different situations. 909 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:46,240 » And the primary residence is in Clearfield, is that right? 910 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:48,360 » Primary I have in Clearfield. So. 911 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:51,960 » So, Mr. Stevens, do you >> there about 6 months a year. 912 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:56,040 » So, Mr. Stevens, you said that you you can take care of the the taxes without 913 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,200 the penalties and the interest? >> Yeah. 914 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,920 » And you can do that today? >> Well, it'll be 915 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,040 » Yeah, you can do it today. >> Can you do it today? Okay, you can do it 916 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:08,000 today. Okay, with that uh 917 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:11,800 agreement, I I make a motion that we um approve the request for forgiving on 918 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:17,680 interest and penalties for the unpaid property tax on parcel 031 919 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:20,160 -25-0103 for Larry Stevens. 920 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,760 » I'll second it. >> We have a motion by Commissioner Bingham 921 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:29,360 and a second by Commissioner Perry to approve the 922 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:35,400 uh removing removing the interest and penalties for the unpaid property tax on 923 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,400 parcel 050-53-0 924 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:41,360 No, excuse me. 031-25 925 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:47,120 -0103 Larry Stevens. All in favor, say aye. 926 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,800 » Aye. >> Motion passes. 927 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:52,400 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 928 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:58,004 » Thank you. Okay, under human resources 929 01:04:55,984 --> 01:04:58,004 » [clears throat] 930 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:03,440 » Jenica's going to come and visit with us for a few minutes. 931 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,400 About policy 28. 932 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:18,000 » Okay, so we are in need of a new policy. The state legislature passed a new law 933 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:20,920 that goes into effect on May 6th of this year 934 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:26,320 that states that we as an employer are not allowed to ask for an employee to 935 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:29,840 pay for a medical exam up front when it's work related. 936 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:34,920 We have to just automatically pay for it. We can't pay them, so we can't have 937 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:37,520 them pay for it and then reimburse them, which we have done with some in the 938 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:41,280 past, so this would just make it so that 939 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:45,520 effective today, we wouldn't do that practice anymore. We would just pay the 940 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,520 bills directly. 941 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:52,240 » So that that would become part of their benefit package or 942 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:57,200 » of already is, so um these are things like uh CDL medical cards or a fit for 943 01:05:55,240 --> 01:06:00,480 duty exam, which we already pay directly anyway. 944 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:04,920 Um we mostly have been reimbursing the medical cards for CDLs. 945 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:08,720 So that's where you're going to see the biggest impact, but we've already been 946 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:12,160 paying it, so this just means I can't have the employee pay up front and then 947 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,760 reimburse them. We just have to pay directly. 948 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:17,920 » Pay directly. >> Yep. We have two providers that are 949 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:21,880 contracted to do that already, so should be easy. 950 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:25,280 » I make a motion that we adopt policy 28 employee medical examinations. 951 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:29,360 » Second. >> We have a We have a motion by 952 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:33,080 Commissioner Perry to adopt policy 28 and second by Commissioner Bingham. 953 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,920 There's no further discussions. All in favor say I. 954 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:38,960 » I. >> Motion passes. Thank you. 955 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:43,880 » Thanks, Janet. Appreciate it. Okay, we're to the public comment period 956 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:49,240 of our meeting. Those wishing to make public comment shall sign the comment 957 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:54,040 roll and be responsible for the following rules outlined in the county 958 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:58,240 commissioner rules and procedures. Speakers will have one 3-minute 959 01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:03,440 opportunity to speak regardless of the number of items they wish to address. 960 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:08,320 Speakers shall address their comments to the county commission only. There is 961 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:12,280 This is a time to be heard. There will be no back and forth dialogue with the 962 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:16,800 commissioners. Speakers may file copies of the remarks 963 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:22,040 or supporting information with the county clerk. The county clerk will make 964 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:29,560 the information uh available to the county commission. 965 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,560 And we will start with 966 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,640 Kent Hyer. 967 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:52,800 » My name is Kent Hyer. Uh we are property owners in the Blue Creek area. 968 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:57,360 About 2,000 acres there and I came specifically because of Mayda. I didn't 969 01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:03,160 know what it was. Suddenly I heard about it this week and came to find out that 970 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:09,560 you only learned about it 2 weeks ago. So, it's not so confusing. 971 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:13,040 But, I'm concerned about three things. First, the amount of traffic this is 972 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:18,040 going to bring into the area because we are after all a rural area. And we're 973 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:23,319 talking about 2,000 employees that are going to have to travel up and down the 974 01:08:20,359 --> 01:08:26,839 Highway 84 to get to Hansel Valley unless they're living in Hansel Valley. 975 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:32,759 And that wasn't addressed in what he said about Mayda. Secondly, um the power 976 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:35,600 that's being used they say is coming from 977 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,359 the Rhu 978 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:41,480 pipeline? I don't even know what that is. 979 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,839 So, is that natural gas? >> Yes. 980 01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:47,319 » Okay. I thought as much. 981 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:51,279 So, [snorts] it will not raise our electrical 982 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:54,799 prices at all, which is great. Um the third thing when they talked about 983 01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:58,480 taking the briny water from the Locomotive Springs and cleaning it and 984 01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:04,279 using it for cooling and then putting it back in the aquifer. 985 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:10,040 Do we know how far the aquifer reaches? Does it reach out 986 01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:13,880 to Blue Creek from Hansel Valley? I mean, I've heard stories the aquifer 987 01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:18,240 reaches to um what was Thiokol, now it's whatever 988 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:22,759 it's called. But, I'm wondering if that's going to 989 01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:26,520 affect the aquifer or not. They talked about putting it into the 990 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:30,799 Great Salt Lake, which would be great to increase the water level there cuz it 991 01:09:28,440 --> 01:09:34,799 desperately needs to be maintained. But, those are the kinds of concerns I 992 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:38,799 had when I came to this meeting. At least I got some responses. I was 993 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:42,600 worried that it was going to be just a for-profit 994 01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:42,600 um 995 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:49,000 mining facility [snorts] not related to the government at all, 996 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:53,759 especially after I heard that one of the people from Shark Tank is involved in 997 01:09:51,720 --> 01:10:00,880 the project So, yeah, I just hope you consider 998 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:04,680 the people around the area, not just those immediately affected in Hansel 999 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,640 Valley when you consider what to do with the mine of project, okay? That's all 1000 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,640 I've got to say. >> Thank you, Kent. Appreciate it. 1001 01:10:09,733 --> 01:10:13,760 » [clears throat] >> Okay, Deanna Hardy. 1002 01:10:24,143 --> 01:10:26,163 » [clears throat] 1003 01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:31,720 » Okay. Deanna Hardy Brigham. 1004 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:35,160 The Box Elder Committee of Liberty is concerned that several times our 1005 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:39,600 comments have been incorrect in the County Commission meeting minutes. 1006 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:43,440 When we submit our com- comments in written form to the commission, 1007 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:47,600 a correction of the minutes of March 25th should reflect that our committee 1008 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:52,640 believes that zoning should only be implemented when a property owner is 1009 01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:56,480 doing something immoral or dangerous with their property. 1010 01:10:54,320 --> 01:11:00,520 In the minutes of March 25th, it only stated immoral. 1011 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:05,440 Commissioner Perry reported to the convention at the convention that the 1012 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:09,040 commissioners cut 4% from each county develop- 1013 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:13,680 each county department, but failed to inform the people of the large salary 1014 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:18,800 increases for elected representatives. The sheriff received 17,594 1015 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:22,120 increase for 2025 and 4,391 1016 01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:27,960 for 26. County attorney received 7,098 increase 1017 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:33,480 for 25 and 4,785 for 26. 1018 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:40,200 Judge, 6,388 increase for 25 and 4,308 for 26. 1019 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:47,160 The assessor, auditor, clerk, recorder, treasurer each received 4,840 1020 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:51,120 increase for 25 and 3,271 for 26. 1021 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:55,240 The citizens do not receive an increase in salary every year. 1022 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:58,160 They keep getting their money taken away every year. 1023 01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:01,840 The citizens' cries to our representatives not to raise taxes were 1024 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:05,800 ignored. The citizens have every right to protect 1025 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:10,160 their property by not paying tax increases that were not consented to by 1026 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:13,760 the governed. Grateful for all the citizens that 1027 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:16,080 stood, even if it was just for a little while. 1028 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:21,320 And for those citizens that are continuing to stand in resistance 1029 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:26,640 against the tax increases. Quote, "A every major increase in 1030 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:31,520 liberty in our country's history has been the result of people showing 1031 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:37,160 disobedience against bad laws. Disobedience is the true foundation of 1032 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:40,800 liberty." Henry David Thoreau. The citizens are being forced to turn 1033 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:45,600 over their hard-earned money so that elected representatives can have larger 1034 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:49,760 salaries and to fund unconstitutional socialist government programs. 1035 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:53,440 Our elected representatives are showing no respect or concern for their 1036 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:58,440 constituents. It was also reported county purchased an 1037 01:12:55,680 --> 01:13:02,720 ambulance at a reduced rate. Why is our county purchasing an ambulance? 1038 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:06,840 This should be the hospital's purchase and part of the free market system. 1039 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:10,960 The citizens are double taxed with being forced to pay into this service and then 1040 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:16,160 when the citizen actually use the service, they are billed at an enormous 1041 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:19,760 rate, which is a double taxation. Solution, restore the free market 1042 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:23,000 system. Commissioner Bingham reported that he is 1043 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:27,480 for property rights but is trying to zone all of the county's property, which 1044 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:31,360 is unconstitutional. This country was founded on private 1045 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:34,600 property rights and representatives are supposed to be protecting this right. 1046 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,960 » Okay, your time is up. >> Okay, thank you. 1047 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:40,920 » Yep. >> I'll let you read the rest of it. 1048 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,920 » Luanne Adams. 1049 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:56,560 » What is this for? >> That's for you to snuggle with it if you 1050 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,641 » It's a comfort bunny. >> Yeah, you just squeeze it if you get 1051 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:01,661 really upset. >> [laughter] 1052 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:08,240 » It does it does hug back, so be careful. >> My notes says spread kindness. 1053 01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:16,040 Anyway, my name's Luanne Adams and I'm I'm here um our family has property in 1054 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:18,680 the Salt Wells area and we're affected by this 1055 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:24,120 um this Myton deal. 1056 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:29,200 I was called some time ago um about the property and and we let him know that we 1057 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:32,880 are a working ranch and our ranch, let me just tell you a little 1058 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:36,760 bit about our ranch. It's historic property, it goes back to um Bob's 1059 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:40,960 grandfather and um we've put a lot of work into 1060 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:47,040 that. We have a seed business there, forage kosher, and we have cattle on it. 1061 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:50,960 In in the wintertime, it's a good place to to have your cattle because you don't 1062 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:56,160 have to feed a lot of hay. It's kind of a open winter, so it's it's really great 1063 01:14:54,000 --> 01:15:01,000 for that. And because we don't use a lot of hay, it helps with this alfalfa that 1064 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:06,120 everybody's talking about. Um They don't want farmers to raise. 1065 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:11,600 Anyway, we want to keep ranching. We have I have my son is also here and his 1066 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:15,960 his son is. So, we got several generations coming and there's we we 1067 01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:19,800 couldn't take the money that they gave us and turn around and find property 1068 01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:25,760 that we have for winter range. And that it is our good winter range. And um I 1069 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:30,000 learned a lot today. When they called me, they first of all, they wanted 1070 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:33,760 20,000 acres. Now, it's 40,000. They didn't say the government was involved. 1071 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:38,280 They didn't say it was just the private, the Shark Tank guy, you know, and and um 1072 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:42,320 so, and I didn't know it was going to be an economic development. So, is 1073 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:47,320 is our property going to be involved in that? And and how will we be affected by 1074 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:51,600 all that? I know they wanted a non-attainment area and there's reasons 1075 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:57,080 why they want non-attainment. How is that going to affect us? Um 1076 01:15:54,640 --> 01:16:03,960 because it will. And um with pollution and and other things, 1077 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:07,920 these um AI plants have loud noise. If you've got on the internet, they're 1078 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:15,240 they're loud noises. And water pollution, I'm I'm concerned 1079 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:21,880 about the water pollution and and um when I talked to um 1080 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:24,640 the Holmgrens earlier, they thought that the water was they were going to use it, 1081 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,880 they were going to recharge it, put it back, and then they were going to be 1082 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:31,600 able to use it. Now, it's all going to the Great Salt Lake. 1083 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:34,880 We're we're concerned about even watering our cattle. I know it's 1084 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:40,080 brackish water, but our cattle uses brackish water to that um 1085 01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:45,440 you know, salty water, it's okay. Um we're concerned about roads. On the 1086 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:50,120 roads of Salt Wells Road. If I I hope they don't use that. It's got a lot of 1087 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:54,760 blind corners in it. And also even coming out from Northrop Grumman from 1088 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:59,880 Brigham City, that road is getting worse and worse. There's so much traffic on it 1089 01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:05,600 and it will be an impact um going forward. I guess we just want to know 1090 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:10,360 I know you guys didn't I think you kind of learned from us in 10 months about 1091 01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:13,920 this project. We did know earlier. They said don't tell anybody. Don't tell 1092 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:19,360 anybody. We got some property owners that you you know just don't tell. So 1093 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:24,920 I kept it to to myself for a little while and then um anyway 1094 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:29,240 Um, we're we're not interested in in selling our property this time and we 1095 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,840 want to be protected for what we have in the future. So 1096 01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:33,173 » up. >> Thank you. 1097 01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:37,640 » Thank you, LuAnn. Appreciate it. >> [clears throat] 1098 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:41,240 » Okay, Suzanne Reese. >> Um, they're going to give me a 1099 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:43,760 microphone cuz I can't stand and walk up there. 1100 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:48,240 But LuAnn just expressed my biggest concern 1101 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,840 concern. [clears throat] We own property down in Salt 1102 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:54,200 » till the microphone for just 1 second so we can record it? 1103 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:58,000 » Oh, okay. Now, LuAnn expressed what I'm really 1104 01:17:55,680 --> 01:18:03,520 concerned about, too, is [clears throat] the roads that uh it 1105 01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:09,440 it's really kind of a dangerous place out there. The blind corners and up and 1106 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:15,080 down. And I'm concerned about 2,000 employees traveling those roads that 1107 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:19,840 could create a real hazard. And the other thing I'm really concerned about 1108 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:24,000 is why this was kept so hush-hush and not talked about. My grandson came home 1109 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:28,360 from college saying it was talked about in his college class. And that's how we 1110 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:32,560 became aware of what was going on. Because nobody else was supposed to 1111 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:38,920 know, but it was talked about over at Utah State. But anyway, my My concern is 1112 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:42,800 the roads. It's pretty dangerous on those roads right now, and you add 1113 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:49,000 another 2,000 people, it's going to be life-threatening. Thank you. 1114 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:53,080 » Thank you. Appreciate that, Suzanne. Tim Munns. 1115 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:56,480 » I thought we were going in order of who was coming. It was 1116 01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:59,120 a lottery. You drawing them out of a hat, who's next? 1117 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:03,920 » You're it. >> I only got 3 minutes, Commissioner. 1118 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:07,880 Thank you. Tim Munns, Hansel Valley. Yeah, this thing is going to be huge. 1119 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:11,320 You get right to my 3 minutes. Change. The only one who enjoys change is a 1120 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:15,640 baby, and that's the way it is. It Nobody wants change in the name of 1121 01:19:13,480 --> 01:19:20,280 progress, development. We've got to manage what we're doing, but 1122 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:24,880 I get pretty wound up, and I did get wound up. That's like Luann said, all my 1123 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:28,080 neighbors called me for months. Have they talked to you? Did 1124 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:32,600 he talk to you? I think I'm the last guy, the landowner on the list, me and 1125 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:36,920 my son Bud, to know what I shouldn't say what the hell is going on, but that was 1126 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:41,400 a fact. And then the And then so immediately after Austin called me, 1127 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:45,800 running by me, I chastised him a little for being 1128 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:49,080 late to the game. He He had his reason why he did, but 1129 01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:55,120 it's going to make a huge impact on this county, this state, and especially the 1130 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,120 valley, Hansel Valley. 1131 01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:01,360 Unlike a lot of the red ranchers there, which are all my neighbors, all my 1132 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:05,080 friends, we all respect each other's opinion, but 1133 01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:09,360 me and my son Bud have lived there. I've been there 49 years as of last week. 1134 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:12,800 As anybody's going to be impacted in this county, 1135 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:16,880 it's going to be us that actually live there. It's been our residence, which 1136 01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:20,600 that's no brag, that's fact, and ain't debatable. 1137 01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:25,440 And when something sounds too good to be true, probably isn't. 1138 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:30,200 But given all the the short time with just the digest the information we had, 1139 01:20:28,440 --> 01:20:35,160 I got information on that. The first call Austin was on a Thursday night. The 1140 01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:39,880 next morning I was sitting at the state capital building at 6:00 a.m. to 1141 01:20:37,480 --> 01:20:43,080 ask every elected official there what they knew about it. 1142 01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:46,040 And I just got that kind of a blank stare. Called the county commissioner on 1143 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,720 the way, they knew nothing about it. So, one of our 1144 01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:54,560 whatever word you want to use was coming late to the game. 1145 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:58,320 Now, it doesn't matter now. 1146 01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:02,120 We've been informed it's going to be an economic boom for 1147 01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:05,280 the county if we can believe what they're telling us and what and I got no 1148 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:09,920 reason not to. It's going to be a massive 1149 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:13,640 increase in the budget for the county, the school district, and others. 1150 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:18,440 It's going to affect us immensely. It's going to affect all of 1151 01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:18,440 my neighbors down there. 1152 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:25,120 I don't I I guess the tipping point on that deal was was the might aspect of 1153 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:30,480 it. Was the military, the Department of 1154 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:34,720 Defense, the need for this data center. I still don't comprehend why we need it 1155 01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:37,480 why it's got to be so giant, but after weighing all the information, my 1156 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:41,320 two sons are in the ranching business with me. We 1157 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:44,360 I told Austin money isn't the object. We want to just continue doing what we're 1158 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:48,160 doing. We're happy with what we're doing, but like I said, change is 1159 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:50,840 inevitable. Progress is going to come. Who would ever agreed with that Ruby 1160 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:55,160 went through? We did not own that personal land that it's going but we own 1161 01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:58,720 a substantial piece. We've been blessed to no end. The 49 years 1162 01:21:57,796 --> 01:22:00,760 » [clears throat] >> I told you I'd get emotional. We even 1163 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:04,880 know We've been there. We've been blessed to no end. To expand that thing 1164 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:09,760 tenfold over. It's going to be less than 5% of the land we own 1165 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:13,560 currently that they've approached us about purchasing. The 1166 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:18,560 sliver right beside of the of the state. So, we're not selling out, 1167 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:23,400 but we are on the team. We are on board with this project. 1168 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:28,160 I wouldn't say like Paul said it was a welcome with open arms. Hell no, we 1169 01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:31,560 we had a lot of unanswered questions, just like the commission did and like 1170 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:35,520 everybody did. And I think you know that but after 1171 01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:40,000 weighing if or not it could be stopped by the 1172 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:44,040 time we come in there this this goose was hatched and this turkey 1173 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:48,240 was cooked. It looked like to me and we it was either watch what's happening or 1174 01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:52,040 be involved. So we chose to be involved. We're supporting the project right now. 1175 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,840 » Okay, Tim, your time's up. >> Is it? 1176 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,640 » Thank you. >> Yeah. 1177 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:58,120 » I know it's unbelievable but it is. Thanks, Tim. 1178 01:22:56,747 --> 01:23:01,800 » [laughter] >> I had a thought when you said welcome 1179 01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:07,400 with open arms but this is not the place to tell it so 1180 01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,400 » Rick Ellis. 1181 01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:19,520 » Rick Ellis, Howell Valley. Um 1182 01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:23,360 we don't have any idea of the scope of this project. I've seen several of these 1183 01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:28,120 across the country. Uh it's mind-boggling. 1184 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:31,920 Good or bad, I'm for it and I'm and I'm against it. 1185 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:36,760 It's going to change Box Elder County and our areas out there forever. 1186 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:39,720 The lack of transparency really concerns me. 1187 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:44,200 And the $15 million that they're offering 1188 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:47,600 Box Elder County is a drop in the bucket of what the infrastructure is going to 1189 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:52,160 cost us. Where's that money going to come from? 1190 01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:55,600 Uh like I said, I'm not not for and against it. I've got interests both 1191 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:59,760 ways. Um but it is going to change what we're 1192 01:23:57,440 --> 01:24:03,960 doing forever and we need to look at it very carefully and structure it 1193 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:06,520 to where it's going to benefit Box Elder County 1194 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:11,000 and the residents. We've we've heard the sales pitch, the 1195 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:14,480 patriotic heartstrings. That's all fine and great 1196 01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:17,560 but we need to make darn sure that it benefits us. 1197 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:22,560 Thank you. >> Thanks, Rick. Appreciate that. 1198 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,720 Douglas Holland 1199 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:42,400 » My name is Douglas Holland. I'm one of the landowners in uh 1200 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,800 the MIDA area. Um 1201 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:52,040 I just wanted to thank the county commission, 1202 01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:56,360 uh MIDA representatives, and and the developers and the information 1203 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,880 that they have been able to provide for us. 1204 01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:01,440 And the due diligence that the commission seems to be doing. 1205 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:05,800 Um it's all important. 1206 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:09,520 I've been in meetings with some of the county commissioners, with 1207 01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:15,160 the MIDA representatives, and the local landowners that are 1208 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:19,520 directly impacted with purchase of the properties. 1209 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:22,720 And both the commission and the MIDA representatives 1210 01:25:21,440 --> 01:25:29,640 were very interested in mitigating any of the 1211 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:35,320 potential impacts to the area, not only just that valley, 1212 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:38,480 Hansel Valley, but the local the entire area in the county. 1213 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:41,320 And I just wanted to thank the commission 1214 01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:46,880 and the MIDA representatives and the developers for their willingness to 1215 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:50,280 mitigate whatever problems there are and for the landowners and the local 1216 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:54,680 representatives. Thank you. 1217 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,680 » Thank you. Appreciate that. 1218 01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,840 Ann Varner 1219 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:09,600 Hi, Ann. >> Hi. I'm Ann Varner and we are one of the 1220 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:12,440 landowners in Hansel Valley where this has been talked about today for the data 1221 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:17,720 center and we feel like this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. 1222 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:22,600 We feel like this will help the impact of the state of Utah and Box Elder and 1223 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:25,120 um Doug is one of the who just barely spoke 1224 01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:30,520 is also said the way I feel we're for it. 1225 01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:34,200 And thank you for your time. >> Okay, thank you Anne. Appreciate that. 1226 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,880 Becky Miller 1227 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:56,440 » Okay, I'm I'm Becky Miller and I'm also one of the 1228 01:26:54,000 --> 01:27:02,720 landowners. Um we live on the property with Anne and Doug and I feel like um 1229 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:05,680 it's going to be a great economic thing for 1230 01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:09,840 um this county or I wouldn't um be supporting it. I I I feel like it will 1231 01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:13,760 be a positive thing with not a lot of impact. I'm sure to the people who live 1232 01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:16,640 here of course but with um some of the other things that they've 1233 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:20,800 been saying they say that it should be fine. So, um I just give my support to 1234 01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:25,960 the project. >> Okay, thank you. 1235 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,960 Matt Tubbs 1236 01:27:29,230 --> 01:27:31,250 » [clears throat] 1237 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:40,360 » Commissioners, my name is Matt Tubbs. Um I own property 1238 01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:45,680 that's within the bounds of the Stratus area project. Um I just want to 1239 01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:51,000 uh let you know that I do support that project and am in favor of Mayda. 1240 01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:55,640 Um I've been working with the Westgen Co. team for 1241 01:27:53,320 --> 01:28:00,360 a few months now and they've been uh very transparent and they only want 1242 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:04,000 what's best for the county and the landowner. So, I I do support the 1243 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,840 project. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. 1244 01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,120 Russell Boyer 1245 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:26,560 » Yes, my name's Russ Boyer, landowner Locomotive 1246 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:31,280 Springs there. We are in support of this project, the 1247 01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:36,880 Stratus project. Uh my family has ranched there since 1248 01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:41,840 late 1800s down there in Locomotive. Also based in Idaho, and so we're very 1249 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:46,160 familiar with the ground. My family is also employed at Northrop 1250 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:52,000 Grumman. And I feel this project is needed. This 1251 01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:56,200 pipeline was put through on us with the Ruby pipeline. I think it was in 1252 01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:59,160 2010. And there's not been much use for the 1253 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:04,240 county here. And the economic gain that can be gained 1254 01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:09,080 from this and the jobs, we need it. For the race to space and everything else in 1255 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:14,120 our military. Uh with all the conflicts we have going 1256 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:19,200 on in the world, it is a data based driven race and this is the 1257 01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:22,360 current technology we're using and so our family's in support of it with our 1258 01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:28,120 ground. >> Thank you very much. 1259 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,120 Ken Eliason? 1260 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:41,040 » Hello. Ken Ken Eliason. >> Eliason. 1261 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:45,160 » And I ranch down there with uh Locomotive Springs area, too. My 1262 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:49,720 grandfather's been there 75 years ago and along with other 1263 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:54,400 ranchers and uh me and my two sons, we still ranch there 1264 01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:59,000 with private ground and on private ground and BLM ground. 1265 01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:03,760 And the first thought I had when it came when I heard about it was uh you know, 1266 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:09,000 no way, you know, wasn't for it, but more I learned about it, uh 1267 01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:13,440 for us it'd just be a small part on in our area. I am concerned about the 1268 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:18,600 roads, the traffic. Uh but uh they've eased, you know, our 1269 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:23,880 concerns with with the technology that they say that they have. 1270 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:29,400 Uh not using a lot of water, but uh I am in in favor of it and I 1271 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:36,800 I think it'll be a big boon for Curlew Valley, the up the valley up north there 1272 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:40,600 for employment and other things. Uh but yes, I that's where I'm at, so. 1273 01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:42,920 » Okay, Ken, thank you so much. Appreciate it. 1274 01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,400 » Bud Munns. 1275 01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,760 Gentlemen, thank [clears throat] you for your time. 1276 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:03,080 I'd like to thank you that the commissioners for holding this hearing 1277 01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:06,000 and and hearing out what we have to say. Uh just for the record, I am for the 1278 01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:11,320 MIDA application the MIDA application specifically. I I think it is a 1279 01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:14,280 is a good thing. Um or you know, back My name is Bud Munns. 1280 01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:18,680 I'm an I'm a property owner that's actually in the proposed MIDA area. You 1281 01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:24,320 guys have seen the proposed map, correct? I'm I'm assuming, yeah. Um 1282 01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:28,200 The impacts, we know there's going to be some negatives 1283 01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:32,240 and there's going to be some positives. I'm in favor because as long as we show 1284 01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:34,920 a net positive to the locals, like the direct locals, 1285 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:38,360 and the surrounding areas that are around that, the neighboring ranches, 1286 01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:44,040 and then to our county specifically, and I think the the benefits are there. Um 1287 01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:48,400 and should go forward with that. Um as far as the military aspect goes, I 1288 01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:51,888 can speak to that personally. Um 1289 01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,720 We're behind >> [clears throat] 1290 01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:58,640 » in our computing power. It is what it is. I'm a realist. I know that 1291 01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:01,960 humanity has got to move on and and if not us, then who? You know, this could 1292 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:05,400 move on to a different state, and we could move we could lose the opportunity 1293 01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:09,320 that's right here before us. So, I say we jump on it and gain it so um we can 1294 01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:12,640 get the benefit from it and I think our workforce 1295 01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:16,440 can handle it and we can put up a good product for the military aspect of it. 1296 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:21,080 Um I would like to for you to uh the your 1297 01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:24,280 consideration for a local like direct local to sit on that seven-member might 1298 01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:26,160 aboard that was discussed and I live there. 1299 01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:31,280 So, um time is of the essence. 1300 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:33,920 It's what they're saying. So, I know you guys need to gather a lot of 1301 01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:37,000 information um and I'm not saying that we need to 1302 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:39,880 bypass anything or take a look at things. 1303 01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:42,400 Um but if we delay [clears throat] it, there's 1304 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:46,440 an opportunity that it could go to a different county. Um 1305 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:50,440 We were notified by the yeah, a couple of months ago when we wrapped our mind 1306 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:54,600 around it and it'll be it was what it was um 1307 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:57,560 but like I say, I I think it's going to be a positive thing that a lot of 1308 01:32:55,880 --> 01:33:01,400 negatives that were you know, all three of you know that my concerns and we have 1309 01:32:59,960 --> 01:33:04,680 addressed those and I think from their end they've uh 1310 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:07,320 they've appeased me of what what they need to do and what they can do to 1311 01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:09,160 mitigate those. So, we move forward the process. Thank you for your time. 1312 01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:13,880 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 1313 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,880 » Dustin Mills. 1314 01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:23,760 Dustin Mills, uh fourth generation rancher also in 1315 01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:26,640 that same area. Not sure if I consider myself Hansel 1316 01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:31,160 Valley or Promontory. We're about 4 miles south of where the proposed area 1317 01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:35,560 is. Um Kind of no man's land. But my concern is 1318 01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:39,240 this. I as has been stated, there's positives and there's negatives. What I 1319 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:44,280 want to know is as we move forward if this project go moves forward, what can 1320 01:33:41,480 --> 01:33:48,400 be done to mitigate any negative impacts that it may have that we don't recognize 1321 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:51,960 right now. The the proposed site's in the bottom of a valley. We all have 1322 01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:55,920 water and wells and things that are above there. If the water impact is 1323 01:33:53,920 --> 01:34:00,160 greater than anticipated and it affects us, what can what moving forward what 1324 01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:05,040 our What's our recourse? What can we do to ensure that our livelihood and our 1325 01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:08,760 properties are protected? And number two, with that on that same note, I 1326 01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:11,160 mean, with the amount of traffic and things that's going out there, a lot of 1327 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:13,720 that's open range. Is some of that going to have to be fenced in order to cause 1328 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:17,920 to to stop cattle on car collisions? Who 1329 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:22,800 pays for that? Who Who pays for the ongoing impacts that we may not even see 1330 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:27,440 right now if this goes forward. That's That's my big concern. 1331 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:31,520 And then my other concern is and this is kind of a I realize progress moves 1332 01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:35,880 forward no matter what, but as these type of things move into our county, the 1333 01:34:33,480 --> 01:34:39,560 land values go up and that's can be a good thing and that can be a bad thing. 1334 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:44,200 But as we look at I mean, we're already at a marginal level in which agriculture 1335 01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:47,160 can support the value of the land. If this project drives the land values up 1336 01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,800 even higher, it's going to have an impact on the entire portion of the 1337 01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:53,320 western county, which it'll drive the next generation off their ranches 1338 01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:56,880 because they can't afford to stay there. That's something I think as a county as 1339 01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:59,560 we look at our heritage and our culture, we need to consider that. Thanks 1340 01:34:58,565 --> 01:35:04,520 [snorts] for your time. >> Thank you so much. 1341 01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,520 Shayne Holmgren. 1342 01:35:05,770 --> 01:35:07,790 » [snorts] 1343 01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:16,600 » Uh Shayne Holmgren, Bar H Ranch. Uh 1344 01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:21,320 I'm a fifth generation 1345 01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:24,520 on our our ranch out there. I've got 1346 01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:32,040 three kids which are all here with me today and my wife and we have 1347 01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:36,960 continued on our legacy. And when Austin approached me with this 1348 01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:40,040 with Gen West Co, I thought, you want to what? This is 1349 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:45,320 crazy. The more we have had family meetings and 1350 01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:49,280 discussed back and forth, we can see nothing but the pros 1351 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:55,080 of this coming versus the cons. 1352 01:35:52,720 --> 01:36:00,320 Uh I want to use one example 1353 01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:06,600 years ago when bought when Beaver City was approached by Proctor & Gamble 1354 01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:11,200 to be a part of Beaver City. The forefathers then shut 1355 01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:15,880 Proctor & Gamble out and said, "We don't want you." 1356 01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:19,720 They found a way to go around the loop 1357 01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:25,520 and they still put the building in. And to this day it says Beaver City, but 1358 01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:29,240 Beaver City doesn't get any revenue. So, that being said, I think to get on 1359 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:35,240 board now the county's going to do great, the state's going to benefit, 1360 01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:40,440 and I'm 100% supportive of this. Thank you. 1361 01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,440 » Thank you. Appreciate it. 1362 01:36:41,480 --> 01:36:47,000 Okay, if there's no other comments, 1363 01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:53,680 we appreciate um those who spoke to us and 1364 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:57,760 and uh raised your concerns. We appreciate being able to hear from you 1365 01:36:55,000 --> 01:37:01,040 today. Um those things have been said we won't take lightly. That's one of the 1366 01:36:59,480 --> 01:37:07,840 reasons we wanted to visit with you so we could get your feelings and uh as we 1367 01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:12,240 look at this project and and uh those issues that it could have on our 1368 01:37:09,480 --> 01:37:13,840 county. So, thank you for being here. Uh 1369 01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:18,280 » Weren't registered? >> We just took care of it. 1370 01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:21,800 » Got that done. So, uh Do we don't have anything in closed 1371 01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:25,040 session, right? Okay. 1372 01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:27,920 Um I take a motion to adjourn. 1373 01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:30,200 » I move we adjourn. >> I second. 1374 01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:33,560 » Have a motion by Commissioner Bingham to adjourn and and a second by Commissioner 1375 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,200 Perry. All in favor? 1376 01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:38,160 » Aye. >> We're adjourned. Thank you. 1377 01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,800 » I did. 1378 01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,320 » Right. That's actually