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I'm Commissioner Vincent. I'm the board

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chair. So, just a couple of

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things to note to begin with.

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If you start to chant or if you get out

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of control, you are in our chambers,

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okay? At the point that you start to do

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that and become disruptive, one of our

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wonderful deputies will escort you from

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the chambers.

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So,

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we are here to discuss some things

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today.

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We

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are all [clears throat] part of this

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county

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and we all need to be considerate of one

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another.

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That includes your three commissioners

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and those people in this room.

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There are differing opinions going

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either way on things

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and we appreciate that. That's why we

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live in the country that we live in. Is

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that not correct? Yes. So, at the end of

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the day, everybody has an opinion.

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Everybody has their concern about the

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things that go on in our country and

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that's why we live here and uh

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and so, we need to respect one another.

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At the point that you become unruly and

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start yelling or you start chanting, at

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that point, you will be removed. So, if

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that does happen to you and you're

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frustrated and upset, understand that

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you have been warned.

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So, that is the direction we'll be going

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today.

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Okay.

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Agenda items.

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Interlocal agreement number 26-15

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between Box Elder County and the

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Military Installation Development

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Authority MIDA relating to

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the status project

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and then also discussing a resolution

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26-11.

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Box Elder County Commission consent to

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the Military Installation Development

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Authority Stratus project. What we're to have is Paul here.

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Okay.

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Hillary, can you come up and just kind

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of discuss some of this with us and

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let's just talk about some things and

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I've also asked Austin Pritchett

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Introduce yourself. Yes, my name is

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Hillary Venable. I'm here on behalf of

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my dad. I'm a project area director with our team. I've also asked

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Austin Pritchett if he'll come sit with

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me if there's any technical questions,

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he may answer those

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in more depth. If that's appropriate.

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That's fine.

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Are you good with Austin being up here?

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No, that's not a problem. It's great.

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Well, I appreciate this opportunity to

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speak to you commissioners again and go

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over the project. I know we've had two

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wonderful meetings

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last week where we were able to explain

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the project and in depth not only here

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but also in our board meeting and so I'm very grateful and for the

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opportunity to once again share the

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information. We'll go over an overview

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quickly and then if there's any

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questions at the end we'll

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will Austin and I will answer your

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So, I will stay keep my remarks focused

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on three things. What the purpose of

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this project area is. Why inviting my

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dad to be why my dad was involved

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invited to be involved and how the

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potential project will align with your

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priorities here in Box Elder County and

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your vision for this community's future.

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To provide some context my dad receives

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a high volume of increase to create

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project areas on a regular basis.

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>> you please explain to them what my dad

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means? Yes, I will actually. Thank you.

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My dad military installation development

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authority

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Uh, it was created by legislation in

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2007, actually at the time when Hill Air

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Force Base was uh,

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jeopardy of of it was on the BRAC list.

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needed to do something to make sure that

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never happened again. MAIDA was created,

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um, to help bring in, um,

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revenue where otherwise would not be

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recognized to help the build and rebuild

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the in- infrastructure on the base.

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Falcon Hill, we have what's called an

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enhanced use lease where we're able to

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develop on uh, otherwise, uh, federal

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land that would not be able to be

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developed on. And now those revenues

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um, created the opportunity for us to

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replace the old

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II dilapidated buildings that are there.

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broke ground, um, this month or I'm

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sorry, we're April now, in March, on the

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first replace- replacement building.

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um, be able to rehome 6800 employees,

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um, with the um, with other replacement

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buildings following behind it. Um,

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that's what's wonderful about this

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opportunity to create a revenue source for our

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military. So, back to what MAIDA is, we

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were created specifically to, um,

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to, uh, provide benefit to the military

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and also economic,

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growth and development with for the

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community it surrounds.

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what we're what we're discussing today

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is a very special opportunity.

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We believe that with this project,

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MAIDA, Box Elder County, and the state

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of Utah can come together to strengthen

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military mission,

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support long-term economic growth, all

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while pres- preserving agriculture and,

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uh, conservation values.

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>> now we've talked a [laughter] little bit

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about what MAIDA is,

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but we I one thing I wanted you to know

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is that we do operate as a land use

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authority within our designated project

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areas, but we do not act unilaterally.

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Our involvement is structured,

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deliberate, and based on partnership and

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alignment with landowners and local

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leadership.

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we do not move forward in the creation

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of a project area.

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So, what this project is,

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the proposed Stratus project area

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encompasses approximately 40,000 acres

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in unincorporated Box Elder County.

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The project centers on the development

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of a large data center campus

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supporting AI and cloud computing with

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on-site energy generation, so it can

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largely power itself.

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The proposed area is a strong fit.

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Actually, it will power itself. The

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proposed area is a strong fit for this type of development, close to

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existing natural gas infrastructure,

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including the Ruby pipeline, supporting

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supported by long-haul fiber, and

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located away from the population centers

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while still accessible to the workforce.

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planned to support up to 7 and 1/2 to 8

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gigawatts of power.

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At a high level, this is about placing

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the right infrastructure in the right

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location where it can operate

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efficiently and with minimal impact to

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surrounding communities. MAIDA's

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involvement is specific. This type of

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infrastructure infrastructure

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directly supports energy resilience

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and mission-critical systems tied to

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military operations.

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in addition to your support,

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commissioners, we require 100% consent

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from all participating landowners

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and [clears throat] the county.

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We have the landowners'

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today. We're here for your consent.

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At its core, this project is about

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infrastructure that supports military

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mission, not indirectly, but by design.

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Reliable energy and secure data systems

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are no longer optional.

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They are part of the foundation of how

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national defense operates today.

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I want to take a moment to address a few

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items we understand are very important

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and concern in the county.

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First, agriculture.

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agriculture and ranching in this area,

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and the project has been structured with an agricultural first approach.

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increments, not all at once. Land is not

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active Land that is not actively under

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construction will remain in active agricultural use, preserving

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the region's identity as a working rural

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landscape, and continuing to support the

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local agricultural economy.

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In the our standards and guidelines that

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will be adopted with this project,

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agriculture is a permitted use.

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Um like unto the county's code and

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regulations currently.

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and operating as they do today. The

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project is is expected to incorporate

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leaseback agreements, allowing

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agricultural use of the land to continue

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throughout the development timeline.

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multi-generational ranching operations

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remain uninterrupted.

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and income stability are maintained with

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many employment opportunities within the

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understand that you're worried about

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local control and revenue sharing.

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interlocal agreement

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that clearly defines roles and

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responsibilities, my district's roles,

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and the county's roles.

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local expert participation on a

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development review committee, corner

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coordinated on how municipal services

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are delivered coordination, I'm sorry,

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on how municipal services are delivered,

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and a funding structure that not only

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covers those services,

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but can also supply county priorities.

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or or or whatever the county is needing.

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a a review committee that encompasses

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your planner, your fire

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marshal,

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your engineer, and we will approve those

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site plans in the master development

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municipal services, um the county will incorporate the municipal services

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for the development just as they do for

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anywhere else in the county. And

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anything additional with the the fund

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the revenues received is at the county's

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discretion on where where it need is

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needed to be placed in the county.

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The next time you'll be removed.

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I'm actually grateful for that question

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because it was my next point that I was

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going to make. Water is critical. It's a

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critical issue in this region. We

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understand that, and it's become

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actually the center focus of of this

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project. The data centers are expected

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close-loop cooling systems. That means

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water is brought in initially, but then

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reused over and over again rather than

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continually consumed.

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Because of that, the long-term water

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demand is expected to be closer to what

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you would see from a large office

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campus, not a traditional industrial

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use.

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So, to that point,

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I want Austin to explain what a close

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loop close loop system looks like and

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then also with the energy portion of it,

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the cooling system is air cooling so

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there won't be [crying] any water use on

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that. So, Austin, if you wouldn't mind

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Yeah, exactly. It's It's not lost on us

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that the water in the area is restricted. We have

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many water rights that we are purchasing

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with the project

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and of those water rights a very small

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fraction will be used.

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And a lot of that will be taken from

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very alkaline base water and cleaned up

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and shared with neighboring ranchers and actually a net positive back to the

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lake at the end of the day.

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So, a lot of people are concerned about

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the water use with

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power generation. There's new air

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cooling technologies that are zero

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water.

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And in a worst case if we had to be

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further down the line for those

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technologies

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even if we had to use

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a water using type technology, we're

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massively

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over watered by the amount of water

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rights we have and it will go back to

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the lake as a net positive over what its

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prior use was. So, Austin, do you have a number? [clears throat] I mean, acre

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feet in gallons and

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>> So, we have on site we've got about

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3,000 acre feet

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that we're purchasing.

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Up the road we've got other acre feet

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about 10,000 acre feet in

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up in Snowville that we have under

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contract if needed but we just on the on

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site water we should be

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well over served.

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If we get these newer technologies we're

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talking closer at full build out to the

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amount of water rights it would take for

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one farm pivot. So,

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>> Where's that research coming from? She's

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got to go.

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I'm hearing a lot of ifs, shoulds, Okay,

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we're answering questions, okay? This is

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not We're not going to be taking a bunch

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of public comment. We're answering

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questions right now. This is a meeting.

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So, if you will please, we've got a lot

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of questions the commission will be

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asking. So, please be patient and listen

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to what's going on. I don't want to have

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to remove you.

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Is there going to be public comment?

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was held last week. So,

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just let us walk through this, okay?

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[laughter]

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Last week in our We had public hearing

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where we had public comment last week um

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in our commission meeting. This was This

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was put out to the public. We had a

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public comment period last week. We did

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that last week. So, at the end of the

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day, please

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>> public comment.

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I didn't hear anything about it.

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was noticed. I didn't hear anything.

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I'm sorry. It was noticed and it was put

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out. We had a public comment period last

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week.

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So, please be

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One more comment out of you, you'll be

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removed. Please be patient, listen to

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what we're presenting and what Maydis presenting, and let us go

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forward. Do not interrupt the meeting.

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Let us go through this and discuss this.

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Okay, so there is no if on a net

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positive on water. The exact technology

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partnerships of the newer power

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technology are not totally solidified,

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so there's a few different options. So,

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only reason I say if, but we're very

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close on the zero water solutions.

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>> And then also desalinization, you guys

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mentioned something about desalinization

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of waters and stuff like that.

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>> have water treatment on site cuz where

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we're pulling from is very alkaline

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salinated water and we'll be

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cleaning it up.

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Is there any water being taken from the

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Great Salt Lake for this? No. Cuz that's

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been we've had a lot of questions about

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us pulling water from the Great Salt

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Lake. Yeah, no no water is being taken

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from the lake.

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The goal is to operate in a water ways a

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water ways way and we

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have assurance that we will utilize less

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than like like Austin [laughter]

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mentioned

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what is needed for one farm pivot.

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Let's move on to the power concerns. I

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know there's concerns of how this might affect [laughter] the community

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if their rates will increase or or if it

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will have a impact on the power grid.

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This project is designed to generate its

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power on site. It will not be connected

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to the grid and it and it will and it

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will operate from its own power

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generation.

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That means it will not rely on the

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existing grid. Instead, it produces the

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energy it needs directly at the campus.

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The intent behind that is simple. It

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allows the project to move forward

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without placing additional demands on

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local power systems.

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So in practical terms, that means no

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added pressure on the grid, no increase

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in electrical rates for residents and

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businesses and no reduction in

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reliability for homes, farms or

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communities.

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In the future if if there's an if

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there's an abundance of power, we may be

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able to

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sell back power to the local grid, but

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we will not take the development will

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not take from the grid.

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We've approached this project with clear

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framework, land owner support, alignment

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with local priorities and a fine benefit

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to both the military mission and the

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local economy. We understand the

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responsibility that comes with a project

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of this scale

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and our intent is to move forward in a

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way that is thoughtful, um, transparent,

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and aligned with the community. We do we

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have committed to have multiple, uh,

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town halls for education, and, um,

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to to help the communities, the

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surrounding communities, understand the equipment, the the generation, um,

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of and the, uh, total buildout, uh, what

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it will consist of. And we look forward

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to those, actually. And furthermore, I I

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look forward to more questions. If you

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have any, uh, additional questions.

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Well, and we do have more questions. We

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appreciate that. You know, a lot of the

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questions that, uh, that you're

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answering are questions that we actually

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have had from our, uh, citizens that

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have come in. Um, so, one of the things

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that,

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um, we've got a lot of questions about

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is, uh, why is this project moved

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forward in such an accelerated timeline?

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That is a very that is a great question,

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and I appreciate it. Um,

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first and foremost, we do very extensive

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due diligence on all of our projects,

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but this one in particularly. Across the

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country, um, we've we've done our due

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diligence, um,

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as far as what what the project needs,

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uh, uh,

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at this caliber, and if it is even

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compatible with Utah. And sometimes,

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when a project like this comes along, it

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is very competitive, and it requires all

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involved to move, um, exponentially.

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That's what happened with this, because

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we have the we have the opportunity to,

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um, come upon technology that otherwise

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could set us back could set the, the

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development back multiple years, but we

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have the opportunity to potentially

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receive that equipment at a much

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exponential, um,

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timeline. And that is why we, as a, as a

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group, have moved us forward

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exponentially.

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Hillary, I have a question again.

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>> Yes.

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You were talking about this being a MIDA

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project. What percent of this project

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would actually be considered military

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use?

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That is that is also a great question.

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As you know, MIDA is in existence for

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number one, the military focus and

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military benefit mission, two, economic

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development. Um

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one of the main the things that I'm most

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excited about this project is

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we will be able to utilize revenues to

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um well, besides the national security

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and energy resilience that will provide

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um our military here nationally and and

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as we all know here in this in this

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room,

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uh

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energy independence is

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our has become a national emergency. And that will help

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this this campus will help provide uh

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assurance for that as well as um

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there's multiple projects throughout the

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installations in Utah that this project

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will help benefit and help um

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fulfill. Um

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for instance, we just

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the building that I just told you about

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at Hill Air Force Base with its um

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the with the new uh

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Apologize. I'm I'm

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stammering.

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The building that's being built right

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now um with the revenues, but there's

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projects all over the National Guard and

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other installations throughout Utah that

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need

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uh infrastructure to be replaced and to

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be um progressed for our for our military

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men.

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One of the one of the other concerns is

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what about pollution in our communities?

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Yeah, that's a great question as well.

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Uh MIDA is the land use authority.

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However, we do

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um

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we do follow the regulations of state

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permitting. So, your air, your water,

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your environmental, all of that will be

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regulated by the state and we and we

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will require the development to

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um follow those standards.

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Okay. I don't know if this is for Austin

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or for you, but um what if any

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environmental or water impact studies

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have been completed to date and what

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additional studies are planned in the

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future prior to the

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building permits?

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Yeah, that's that's also a great

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question. Um

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right now we've finished the due

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diligence and we're moving on to all of

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the impact studies. So, I I will let

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Austin speak to that, but with our

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standards and guidelines

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they uh the development will need to uh

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prepare a traffic study, environmental

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study. They will be working with the um

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state for their air approval,

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permitting, etc.

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Yeah, that that's right. We're we're

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working through the state with our air

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permitting.

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Um and that that's a a long process. You

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have to do a lot of monitoring and

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making sure that the air is fully taken

558
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care of. Um and then also the water as well, change use

559
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,600
applications when you go from one use to

560
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,920
another and they dictate how much, you

561
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:28,760
know,

562
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,520
because potentially farming or using it

563
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,560
for pivots is used certain amount of the

564
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,160
year, now you're going to be using it

565
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,560
more constantly. The reductions in water

566
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,560
and how that should be used

567
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,960
appropriately. All of those are going

568
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,200
through third-party professionals that

569
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,640
are really respected by the state.

570
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,360
Okay, very good. Can you can you talk a

571
00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:49,320
little bit to about the jobs?

572
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,760
That was one of the questions that was

573
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,520
asked is MIDA stating that uh there'll

574
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,960
be an estimated um 2,000 jobs

575
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,440
that will be created. Can you talk to

576
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,040
that a little bit and maybe, you know,

577
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,720
uh

578
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,065
Mhm.

579
00:23:02,065 --> 00:23:02,400
>> [laughter]

580
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,160
>> kind of those jobs, what that looks like

581
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,880
financially, as well, and Sure.

582
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,800
Uh the the total build out will is

583
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,560
expected to take

584
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,600
approximately 10 years, and through that

585
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,800
uh development, we'll have We expect to

586
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,320
see somewhere along the lines of 4,000

587
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,160
temporary construction jobs, permanent

588
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,440
jobs that will be uh that will stay with

589
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,560
the development, approximately 2,000,

590
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,880
and those will be

591
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,200
um we're pri- prioritizing local hiring

592
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,880
and provide long-term career paths. Um

593
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,680
Data center management, IT, engineering,

594
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,800
etc. They'll be high-paying jobs um that

595
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,280
will stay with the development. The

596
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,880
construction jobs, will they be local at

597
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,200
all, or will they all be from out of

598
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,320
state?

599
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,040
Um I

600
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,760
That would be I would say all of the

601
00:23:52,760 --> 00:24:01,510
above, but we would prioritize local construction workforce.

602
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,120
Can you talk a little bit to the uh What

603
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:05,760
is the basis

604
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,560
for the level of tax incentives being

605
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,960
proposed for the data center project?

606
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,040
Sure.

607
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,640
I'd like to state that we have very

608
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,440
strategic thinkers and advanced uh

609
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,840
finance team that helps uh put together

610
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,880
these numbers. I won't I won't speak to

611
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:29,080
the calculation um cuz I'm not prepared to, but what it What I

612
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,160
am prepared to state is that with the

613
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,280
energy and compute campus alone, um the

614
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,680
developer has committed to phase one 3

615
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,920
gigawatts of power, which would turn uh

616
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,520
in turn provide the county with $30

617
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,240
million annually um of revenue. Now,

618
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,120
these funds uh are unrestricted. We

619
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:54,080
There's no um

620
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,840
Once you take care of the municipal

621
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,800
services that we agreed to and we and

622
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,720
you agreed to provide which is just the

623
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,480
normal municipal services that you do

624
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,120
already in the county. Um

625
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:09,800
the county has the ability to use those

626
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,360
additional funds as

627
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,440
at their discretion. Now on full build

628
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,720
out we expect the revenues just for the

629
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,640
energy and data campus to be uh at least

630
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:26,880
108 million annually. And again the same structure unrestricted use it

631
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,960
your at your discretion after municipal

632
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,280
services are covered.

633
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,760
So um

634
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,760
so this is going to be built in segments

635
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,600
proposed to be built in segments.

636
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,040
>> That's right. So um you you said once

637
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,280
that the first two segments would be

638
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,480
built simultaneously.

639
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,472
That's right. So it became

640
00:25:46,472 --> 00:25:46,520
>> [clears throat]

641
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,960
>> basically a phase one became three gigs

642
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,880
instead of one and a half gigs at a So

643
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,200
on just the first phase phase one with

644
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,280
two segments will be three gigabytes.

645
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:57,680
>> Yes.

646
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,600
>> And then as you

647
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,640
feel the need or get to that point then

648
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,560
you will make that decision to continue

649
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,720
to build right?

650
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,433
>> That's right. And then when it's online

651
00:26:07,433 --> 00:26:08,120
[clears throat]

652
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,840
the next segment it's online then those

653
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,240
payments will come when?

654
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,000
So I I don't know the answer to that but I

655
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,160
believe it's the next tax the next

656
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,280
tax um

657
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,200
assessment.

658
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,960
>> on January 3rd it won't come till the

659
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,480
next January. Is that what you're

660
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,760
saying? One of the one of the one of the

661
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,400
things that we have because this was a

662
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,960
concern that we would have

663
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,240
infrastructure in place and no revenues

664
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,480
to support it. The developer has

665
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,520
committed to prepayments of uh for the

666
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,760
for three years $5.4 million a year to

667
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,200
help cover those expenses that so that

668
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,720
the county can gear up for this to um

669
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,400
put in a PO for fire equipment or higher

670
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,080
life safety, police,

671
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,520
EMTs, fire,

672
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,800
so that they're taken care of and are

673
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,240
able to to gear up for what is

674
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,600
happening. So, yes, we do recognize that

675
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,120
there will be delay and that is why the

676
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:15,440
developer has, um, agreed to pay those up front

677
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,430
costs. Okay, thank you.

678
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,320
How will these Jackson County's affect

679
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,720
the county school district and other

680
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,600
taxing entities over time?

681
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,720
Only positively.

682
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,360
At full build-out, the county, like we

683
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:31,800
said, will will receive over $108

684
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,840
million annually from the energy

685
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,200
compute, but from any of the mixed-use

686
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,840
development,

687
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,480
um,

688
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,480
advanced manufacturing, etc., there's

689
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,320
going to need to be some eateries or a

690
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,400
extended-stay hotel,

691
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,000
the county will also receive their 25%

692
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,680
of the municipal taxes, which will be,

693
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,560
distributed to the taxing entities in

694
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,760
the county.

695
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,240
On the income

696
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,840
>> So, along that line, and maybe I can

697
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,800
take it you're all saying the one. So,

698
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,560
the map that we've been presented shows

699
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,720
three different parcels. We have, one

700
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,360
that's southern Hansel Valley, one right

701
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,600
at the exit of Hansel Valley 84, and one

702
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,960
that's closer to Locomotive Springs.

703
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,720
We've seen a lot of feedback and a lot

704
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,000
of things from the public comments to

705
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520
our emails, etc., referencing Locomotive

706
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,240
Springs. Um,

707
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,240
tell us, so the public's aware, where

708
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,640
are we thinking as far as if you're

709
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,760
going to put a data center, the energy

710
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,040
production, what's going to go in which

711
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,000
of these parcels? What's the plan? The

712
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,760
build-out plan for these three parcels,

713
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,040
just so we have an idea. Sure. I'll talk

714
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:39,800
to that, loosely, and let Austin, we are waiting for a full master plan in

715
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,200
which we will review and and go through

716
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,360
the proper approvals for that, but we

717
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,520
plan to start in Hansel Valley.

718
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,200
That's where all these numbers that we

719
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,080
are discussing today are coming from.

720
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,280
Um and that will be the data the

721
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,160
majority of the data in compute.

722
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,400
Yep.

723
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,360
Yeah, so the so the cat the catalyst of

724
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,640
the project is the Ruby pipeline, which

725
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,440
uh goes through the center of that

726
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,240
Hansel Valley, right? And so that's

727
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,520
where it will start and grow out from.

728
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,960
Um and then the Hansel Valley will be

729
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,000
the first cuz it's closer. Um

730
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000
and then Locomotive will be

731
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,440
a sec a secondary phase, so it will

732
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,080
start in that South Hansel. And then the

733
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,480
stuff off the exit is going to be

734
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,960
additional services that will be

735
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,600
beneficial to the to the project.

736
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,160
So there won't be any data or compute on

737
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,760
that piece.

738
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,320
And those won't go in

739
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,360
unless the data center and the in that

740
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,480
first phase is got to happen before any

741
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,000
of those other phases.

742
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,720
>> Absolutely. Yep. All of all all of the

743
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,320
momentum in the reason for is is these

744
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,120
uh power generation and data center

745
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,440
pieces. And then obviously ancillary

746
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,880
things will come after the fact. A lot

747
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,400
of advanced manufacturing that wants to

748
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,920
be nearby.

749
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,400
Um the state has had to turn away a lot

750
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,400
of advanced manufacturing because the

751
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,160
power availability currently on the grid

752
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,480
is not sufficient. So a lot of those

753
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,960
groups will come into this area as well

754
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,870
now that there's power.

755
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,440
I'd like to also state that we are fully

756
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,160
aware of some of the concerns uh keeping

757
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,800
the area as natural as possible. We've

758
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,440
incorporated into the standards and

759
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,800
guidelines that will be adopted with

760
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,760
this project dark sky standards so that

761
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,160
we um are mindful of that. We also are

762
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,920
mindful of the free range or free

763
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,320
roaming agriculture and the developer

764
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,360
has committed to ensure that there's

765
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,160
appropriate fencing um so that we can um

766
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,480
provide safety on that end as well.

767
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,360
What about noise?

768
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,160
will also we did actually

769
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,680
incorporate a standard into the

770
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,360
standards and guidelines on noise, but

771
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,520
we'll continually monitor that and make

772
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:59,670
sure that we stay compliant.

773
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,000
Any other questions, Commissioners?

774
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,680
Yeah, well the project

775
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,760
this big we're finding it's just about

776
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,800
impossible to understand every issue that's come

777
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,160
along.

778
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,440
We also understand that in the event

779
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,520
that that we vote for this

780
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,710
after that happens, we lose control.

781
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,080
And I and I I'm sorry that you feel that

782
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,280
way. We want you to know that this is a

783
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,400
partnership. Yes, MAIDA has land use

784
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,040
authority in our project area

785
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,160
specifically, but not outside of that

786
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,400
not outside of the project area.

787
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,040
And we encompass a committee so that

788
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,600
the county's concerns and expertise is

789
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,160
also acknowledged on the development

790
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,520
review.

791
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,720
And of course, we'll have continual

792
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,560
communication.

793
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,400
Myself, MAIDA, the county, the developer

794
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,440
to make sure that we are all aligned.

795
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,160
It's not a unilateral like I mentioned

796
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,360
before, this is a partnership.

797
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,840
Well, that's part of the question too is

798
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,160
like we've talked about these town hall

799
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,120
meetings and and the way these town hall

800
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,560
meetings are effective is that people

801
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,280
come and they have concerns. That's We agree and understand that in in the

802
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,200
project area

803
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,440
I understand that, but when we're

804
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,800
talking about the outside area and we

805
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,880
have our folks come with concerns, we

806
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,520
need MAIDA to continue to be able to say

807
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,320
if moving forward this project and we

808
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,800
have those town hall meetings and

809
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,120
there's questions or issues that you

810
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,000
guys can address those meetings that we

811
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,800
can get answers and then figure out to

812
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,120
take care of the situation.

813
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,680
>> absolutely. We're definitely committed

814
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,800
to that. We want that. This is like I

815
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,720
said, we're here because we understand

816
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,520
that it that it provides a true military

817
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,280
focus with the

818
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,920
satisfying the energy need that this country that the country has.

819
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,600
We're here That's why we're here.

820
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,600
Military focus,

821
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,840
economic development.

822
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,760
And can And can There's still some

823
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,760
questions about the natural gas. Can you address that a little bit as to

824
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,470
why the natural gas is so so vital?

825
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,160
And Oh, and not solar. Here, I'll I'll

826
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,360
have Austin speak to the technical side.

827
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,680
Yeah, so right now natural gas is is a very desired energy source for the

828
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,800
big users who are willing to come in and front the kind of capital it takes

829
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,120
to actually get power up and going. Even

830
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,400
power companies themselves across the

831
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,320
nation are refusing to produce more

832
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,320
power because it doesn't financially

833
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,640
make sense. And so this is the This is

834
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,800
the resource that

835
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,040
the the capital that's willing to outlay

836
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,840
that capital and get energy online

837
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,400
wants. Um

838
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,560
and then I think I know you guys know

839
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,160
and maybe the community knows that that

840
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,120
Ruby was put through

841
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,240
uh the county as was supposed to be a

842
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,400
net benefit. And I think it was for a

843
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,560
minute, but it's gone down because it

844
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,080
wasn't utilized and and had a

845
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,640
bankruptcy. And now with us being able

846
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,040
to utilize that asset, it will again

847
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,520
become a net benefit. Um

848
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,120
and then the unused, the amount of capacity

849
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,159
that's on that because it did go

850
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,399
bankrupt, right? It just

851
00:34:11,399 --> 00:34:13,960
it's really a great scenario for us to

852
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,720
have all the

853
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:18,440
natural gas ability there to to produce

854
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,639
this power. And it's the desired power

855
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:21,679
source

856
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:23,679
to invest this type of capital. Yeah,

857
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:24,960
can I Can you Can you talk a little bit

858
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,840
about to the research of things? I mean,

859
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,280
what What research have you done to get

860
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,000
to this point and and why and those type

861
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,879
of things as well. Just about the

862
00:34:33,879 --> 00:34:35,960
natural gas or about all things

863
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,840
considered.

864
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,600
>> and the research and why you have chosen

865
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,800
here. We understand that that that the

866
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,320
pipeline is probably one of the big

867
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,720
drivers, but but what other research did

868
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:47,399
you do to to

869
00:34:47,399 --> 00:34:49,280
land here and understand that this is

870
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,000
where you wanted to come. Yeah, there's

871
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,480
a nexus of fiber and how fast that gets

872
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,840
to different areas of the nation.

873
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,840
Um

874
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,880
so it's it it's situated very well for

875
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,000
that, the pipeline, and then where we

876
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,640
the spot that we picked is on the other

877
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,560
side of a of a small mountain range. The

878
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,680
air quality is such that it will be

879
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,560
really well situated to take on what

880
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,520
we're doing and and not affect anybody

881
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,440
negatively. Um it's in what's called an

882
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,160
attainment area as instead of a

883
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,960
non-attainment or right across the line

884
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,000
over where it is attainment because

885
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,960
models have been done and it's a great

886
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,640
place to do it. So all of these factors

887
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,000
considered,

888
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,680
um

889
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,800
and then

890
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,080
the amount of land it takes to do a

891
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,280
campus like this

892
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,360
in a different area you may have a

893
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,800
couple hundred land owners. Out here

894
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,600
we've got, you know, I think we've got

895
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,920
15 and then another two after our last

896
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,080
meeting that have then approached us who

897
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,040
were first against it and then

898
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,160
approached us of wanting to be a part of

899
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,520
it as well now that they understand what

900
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,080
it is. So it's it's kind of got all the

901
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,680
factors that it's really perfect.

902
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,280
>> Are there places that people can find

903
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,720
that research?

904
00:35:58,720 --> 00:35:59,920
Um yeah, we're going to have a fact

905
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:01,920
sheet on our website where everyone can

906
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,720
ask these questions and there'll be

907
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,360
questions submittals as well and we'll

908
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,720
add to the fact sheet as we go. Why so

909
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:09,920
much land?

910
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,160
Um you know, it started a lot smaller

911
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,880
than this. Um but then when at first

912
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,240
when we started it was just like, "Okay,

913
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:18,920
how how does this work? Where's a good

914
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,200
place for this?" And then when the

915
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,200
military authority came into play and

916
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,920
then we got talking to the state leaders

917
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,240
about how many groups and military

918
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:30,480
focused groups have been turned away

919
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,640
because of lack of power. You know, it

920
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,560
just kind of started growing

921
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,240
and growing

922
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,240
till it got this big because there are

923
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,840
that many uses. Now, whether it it goes

924
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,240
that big

925
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:45,080
it is to be determined, but

926
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,720
all of these landowners wanted in and we

927
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:48,080
said, "Okay,

928
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,360
let's let's let you in and we're hoping

929
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,520
that if the demand is there, you know,

930
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,160
that we can grow to this size and it

931
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,320
will just keep being a huge net benefit

932
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,240
for the county and the state."

933
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:01,720
So, I have another couple questions.

934
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,520
You mentioned Maeda as a land use

935
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,200
authority.

936
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,160
So, Box Elder County has a land use

937
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,960
authority. So, in the in if this happens

938
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,400
and construction plan is put together,

939
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,680
how do you resolve differences? Who I

940
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,560
mean, who has the biggest stick, I guess

941
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,280
is the question. That's a great question

942
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,320
and that's why we put together the

943
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,400
do the two things, the development

944
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,960
review committee

945
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,400
with members of the experts in the

946
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,920
county, your planners, your engineers.

947
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,080
There's it will be a total it will be a

948
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,000
18 eight-member team, one executive

949
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,120
leadership from Maeda,

950
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,000
uh six from the county, uh your experts,

951
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,560
and one

952
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,720
non-voting landowner.

953
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,520
Um also, we have our interlocal uh

954
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,000
agreement. So, we'll work together to

955
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,040
provide the resources and to end the

956
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,160
partner

957
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,230
under that agreement as well.

958
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,160
Okay, thank you.

959
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,280
One of the questions that's been posed

960
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,880
to us in the emails and things we've

961
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,320
received um

962
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,760
is what specific protections will be

963
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,120
implemented to ensure the Locomotive

964
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,960
Springs and Gunnison Bay

965
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,080
that are both critical habitats

966
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,880
supporting migratory migratory bird

967
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,680
populations are not negatively impacted

968
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,760
by the project's footprint or water use.

969
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,240
Yeah, I appreciate that question as

970
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:23,240
well. It's been the developer's focus

971
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:25,600
entirely to make sure that we are

972
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,080
mindful of all these questions that are

973
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,120
coming from the community. In fact, the

974
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,160
Dark Sky

975
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,640
standards were put into the into our

976
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,360
standards and guidelines specifically

977
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:40,720
from questions that we received from your community members.

978
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:44,600
What we'll do this this also will will

979
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,480
look [snorts] at as we do our studies

980
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,560
and if they're in the in the vicinity,

981
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,920
we'll make sure that there's

982
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,720
um implement buffer areas, whatever we

983
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:58,040
need. I don't have the the answer to that at

984
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,720
this point, Austin.

985
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:02,160
Yeah, there's there's a couple different

986
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,720
groups um out there um

987
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:06,040
that their names are slipping my mind

988
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,720
right now, but um

989
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,240
they have kind of these guidelines on

990
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:11,600
how to do it right. And we have every

991
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,120
intention of working with those groups

992
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,520
to make sure that we're doing it in a

993
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,000
way that is non-impactful

994
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,680
um to to the migratory

995
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,240
migration of the birds and

996
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:25,640
everything else that has to do with

997
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,760
wildlife, etc. We are very committed to

998
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,080
making sure that we have the least

999
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,560
amount of impact or if we can even do

1000
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,200
something to make a positive impact, we

1001
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,480
we're committed.

1002
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,560
Another thing people are kind of

1003
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,200
concerned about is the [clears throat]

1004
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,480
raise of natural gas costs to the

1005
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,040
residents.

1006
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,837
Can you speak to that a little bit?

1007
00:39:46,847 --> 00:39:46,920
» [snorts]

1008
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,560
>> Um

1009
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,760
so the capacity on the pipeline is to

1010
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,480
that we're going for is totally unspoken

1011
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,960
for right now. So, it wouldn't be

1012
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,640
affecting any current contracts that are

1013
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,720
coming off of that gas pipeline.

1014
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:01,720
There's a there's available capacity

1015
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:03,480
that is just

1016
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,880
dormant. And so, it should not have

1017
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,320
effect on any other contracts that are

1018
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,080
currently on that pipeline.

1019
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,880
So, another question, the longevity of

1020
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,040
the proposed project,

1021
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:16,680
um

1022
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,040
it seems like uh what you're asking from

1023
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,280
the county is a guarantee

1024
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,840
and what the county is getting back is a

1025
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,480
promise.

1026
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,960
So, if there is not going to be any fuel

1027
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,240
used down the road, I mean I mean

1028
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:30,880
technology changes. It's probably

1029
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,280
changed since we've started talking,

1030
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,600
right?

1031
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,920
So,

1032
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,320
if this changes in 5 years, if it

1033
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,560
changes in 10 years, what happens then?

1034
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,760
Because if we don't get the fuel use,

1035
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,120
then what comes back to the county

1036
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,680
diminishes and we still have the

1037
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,160
guarantee to the developer.

1038
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,640
Yeah. So, what's your vision?

1039
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,280
Sure. I will say this. Uh

1040
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,040
Paul Morris and myself have discussed

1041
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,120
about this at length and the capital that's coming

1042
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,400
>> so everybody knows, who's Paul Morris?

1043
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:01,680
Just

1044
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,760
>> Oh, Paul Morris is is Hillary's partner

1045
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,000
in MAGDA. Okay. Um

1046
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,840
He's the executive director of MAGDA.

1047
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,440
Perfect. Executive director of MAGDA.

1048
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,880
So, yeah. We've talked about this at

1049
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,760
length and all of the energy

1050
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,320
consumption, the tax on that is where

1051
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,120
that county revenue comes from. So,

1052
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,520
whether that was from natural gas energy

1053
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,478
consumption, from what the

1054
00:41:22,478 --> 00:41:22,880
>> [screaming]

1055
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,240
>> from some other energy consumption, as

1056
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,040
long as that energy's being purchased,

1057
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,960
those taxes will remain. It's pretty exciting, I

1058
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,993
know.

1059
00:41:30,993 --> 00:41:33,830
>> [laughter]

1060
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,360
» I've never seen anybody do that for you

1061
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,480
yet, Austin. I think that's [laughter]

1062
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,550
great.

1063
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,760
So, if I understand and in the inter-

1064
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,400
local agreement that that's before us

1065
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,560
right now, um they have put in there

1066
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,640
that uh

1067
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,880
you again will have to report water um

1068
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,480
just like under a bill that was passed

1069
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,240
this last session under HB 76 on

1070
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,280
reporting requirements. Even though

1071
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,040
MAGDA would be doing this, you would

1072
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,400
still have to follow those guidelines.

1073
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,160
Is that correct?

1074
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,920
>> Absolutely. Yes.

1075
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,760
Okay.

1076
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,000
So, MAGDA is a subdivision of what?

1077
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,560
We're a state land use authority.

1078
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,400
So, if we make this agreement, we're

1079
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,360
making it with MAGDA or we making it

1080
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,280
with the state of Utah?

1081
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,520
>> You're making it with IMIDA, the

1082
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,240
Military Installation Development

1083
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:18,600
Authority.

1084
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,120
But you are a subset of the state of

1085
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,120
Utah, right? Yes, that's correct. We're

1086
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,760
a state authority.

1087
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,880
And and you'd be the ones granting

1088
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,000
um

1089
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,280
tax breaks, so to speak. It would not be

1090
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,400
the county actually providing those.

1091
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,160
>> That would be us, yes.

1092
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,800
I just I throw my one sticking point out

1093
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,320
there that I am concerned about um I

1094
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,480
just want to throw out it's probably

1095
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,040
Austin as much as anything, maybe a

1096
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,600
little IMIDA. Um I've listened to the

1097
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,400
IMIDA meeting that they had last Friday

1098
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,800
and there was discussion about how long

1099
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,920
ago that certain individuals were aware

1100
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,280
of this in the state level.

1101
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,280
And um and be straight up as

1102
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,520
commissioners, we heard rumors,

1103
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,840
but we didn't hear a lot about it for

1104
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,040
some time.

1105
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,600
And it really took push from the three

1106
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,280
commissioners against some of our local

1107
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,800
elected officials and some of our our senators and representatives saying,

1108
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,720
"Hey, what is what is this rumor we're

1109
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:09,560
hearing?" It was during the session. And

1110
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,480
it wasn't until the session was done

1111
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,240
that finally somebody reached out to us.

1112
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:15,800
And yet we know that landowners were

1113
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,560
talked to long before any of this.

1114
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,920
Um

1115
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,960
why why is it the commission was the

1116
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,240
last to be talked to about this as far

1117
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:25,160
as

1118
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,760
from what I can see as far as the pieces

1119
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,240
to the puzzle here. IMIDA is important

1120
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,160
I'm in part of this project. State

1121
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,760
leaders obviously have a have something

1122
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,520
to do with this. I'm assuming people

1123
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,680
talked to the natural gas company, we

1124
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,600
talked to the developers,

1125
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,360
but it seems like the county commission

1126
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,240
is a part of this process, why were we

1127
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:44,600
last and just if you can answer that for me.

1128
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,680
I just really want to know for the for

1129
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,520
the public's sake as well.

1130
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,080
If it's all right, I'll I'll speak to

1131
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,680
this and if you have anything to add. Uh

1132
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,920
like like we mentioned before, IMIDA has

1133
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,160
multiple projects that are presented to

1134
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,640
them daily. And either they meet the

1135
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,600
military mission or they don't and so

1136
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,240
then they are excused. Uh sometimes they

1137
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:06,560
are

1138
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,240
due diligence is done on them a little

1139
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:12,240
bit longer and then excused. This one

1140
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:14,600
when we learned about it mid-February,

1141
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,000
we started our due diligence under the

1142
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,280
impression that not only state state

1143
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,680
legislation and also local

1144
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,000
municipalities were were

1145
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,280
talked to. So, as we continued our due

1146
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,360
diligence

1147
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,720
and then determined that we wanted to

1148
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:36,280
move forward with this project, it was

1149
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,560
then

1150
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,040
noted that

1151
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,960
there was that aspect that was missed.

1152
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,560
We apologize and know that that is not

1153
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,040
the mightier way. We want full

1154
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,000
transparency and I apologize now because

1155
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,320
of the because of the nature of the

1156
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,640
competitive competitiveness of this

1157
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,080
project

1158
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,800
to come to Utah or to another state,

1159
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,480
that is the reason why this has been

1160
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,560
exponentially

1161
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,710
put into put into motion.

1162
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:06,760
Well, night and I actually and and

1163
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,320
there's been several comments about my

1164
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,280
comment about drinking from a fire hose

1165
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,240
and it absolutely has been that way. You

1166
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:13,600
know, as

1167
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,400
we've [clears throat]

1168
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,080
postponed this last week and now to

1169
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,640
today and that's the thing is

1170
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,320
now that we finally have the

1171
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,160
information, but the thing that's so

1172
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:28,400
frustrating for us for commissioners is all of a sudden we're we're we're

1173
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,080
brought in the last hour and we're

1174
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,240
expected to hurry. And so, it has been

1175
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,000
um tons of study, tons of hours on our

1176
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,320
side trying to understand this and we

1177
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,000
have landowners that are frustrated.

1178
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,040
We're trying to explain to them the

1179
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,600
situation that we're in.

1180
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,320
That the state's come to us and said

1181
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,480
this has got to be done. The pressure

1182
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,040
that we felt with

1183
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,920
and so, trying to understand all this

1184
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:54,840
which

1185
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,640
today I do drinking from that fire hose

1186
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,120
at this point now, I understand it. But

1187
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,680
it has taken several hours and hours to

1188
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,000
get to this point. And I do want to

1189
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,480
recognize that your team, commissioners,

1190
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,160
yourselves, your team, your your legal

1191
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,840
team, all of your department heads have

1192
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,040
put exten- extenuous

1193
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,720
uh time into understanding this.

1194
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:20,480
I'm grateful for the development team as

1195
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,280
well for taking the time to

1196
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,520
um come prepared with a project that

1197
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,680
was was easily the due diligence was

1198
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,760
eight we were able to do that.

1199
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,840
I appreciate the time that you've spent

1200
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,040
to to prepare for this day and I

1201
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,240
whether we have your consent or not, we

1202
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:42,960
appreciate the effort that you put into

1203
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,280
this and I just wanted to say thank you

1204
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,320
um for that.

1205
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,880
>> The public needs to also be aware that

1206
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,800
we did hire an outside legal team to

1207
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,000
help us. We appreciate Steve uh

1208
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,280
Hadfield and Annie Hansen from our law

1209
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,680
offices for helping us. We also did hire

1210
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,960
an outside

1211
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,462
uh agency to help in this

1212
00:47:00,462 --> 00:47:02,040
[clears throat] process as well. Hey Ty,

1213
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,240
I have one more question if you don't

1214
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:03,600
mind.

1215
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,840
>> Yeah, go ahead, boy. In the event

1216
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,977
that this gets approved

1217
00:47:08,977 --> 00:47:09,040
>> [snorts]

1218
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,920
>> and we find out that because of this

1219
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,720
fast-moving situation that we wasn't

1220
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:18,320
able to understand all the I's and all

1221
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,600
the T's,

1222
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,160
is there any situation where we can then

1223
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,160
work through the challenges with MAEDA

1224
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,280
or are we out of luck?

1225
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,120
We will work through this entire project

1226
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,910
together.

1227
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,440
What does that mean?

1228
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,320
We're in a we're in a partnership.

1229
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,840
So on this committee then we're going to

1230
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,800
be able to sit at a round table and

1231
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,640
hammer out the details. That's right.

1232
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,280
And if we have deep concerns for our

1233
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,520
citizens, the same way, correct?

1234
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Oh, that's right. I should point that

1235
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,480
out and thank you, Austin.

1236
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Um with a project of this magnitude, um

1237
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,840
it is

1238
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,640
not likely, but for sure that one of you

1239
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,440
will be on the MIDA board, so you'll be

1240
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,320
able to help

1241
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,390
with this.

1242
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,560
You will

1243
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:13,600
So,

1244
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,560
another question. How much influence

1245
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,680
because we're a subdivision of the

1246
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,120
state, we all are. How much influence is

1247
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,320
it going to come from Salt Lake?

1248
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,840
I'm sorry, I didn't

1249
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,360
How much influence is going to come from

1250
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,000
local elected officials from the state,

1251
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,040
the legislature, the governor? How much

1252
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,960
input are they going to have into this

1253
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,920
project? No. The project area is here in

1254
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,080
Box Elder County and MIDA along with you

1255
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,160
Box Elder County,

1256
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,440
we will we will develop this

1257
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,150
development.

1258
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:55,550
Okay.

1259
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,720
Commissioners, are there any further

1260
00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:58,363
questions?

1261
00:48:58,363 --> 00:48:58,600
>> [clears throat]

1262
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,040
>> Um, yeah, I I actually there was one

1263
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,240
other thing. I I did some research. Um,

1264
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:05,040
one of the things they talked about these data

1265
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,960
centers is um

1266
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,440
especially the ones with natural gas is

1267
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,440
and and even some with solar that they

1268
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,280
have actually are using battery backups

1269
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,200
to generate energy or to store energy so

1270
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,880
that they can use it during off hours or

1271
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,080
and I guess with the natural gas I've

1272
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,400
heard that they actually up to 1

1273
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,080
gigawatt of natural

1274
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,680
battery backup so that they can cycle

1275
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,440
and and reduce the amount of uh

1276
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,920
pollution or whatever you would come

1277
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,560
from the natural gas generators by using

1278
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,200
batteries on occasion. Is that something

1279
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,000
that is being looked at in this project

1280
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,320
or wherever do we know? So, not that I'm

1281
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,320
aware of, but the power gen that's

1282
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,840
producing for the data centers um that's

1283
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,200
a third-party company that has these

1284
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,920
really good solutions that have really

1285
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,840
the lowest I've seen impact on air

1286
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,480
quality and the the zero water

1287
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,080
solutions. They'll they'll be deciding

1288
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,560
on what those backup sources will be.

1289
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,440
Um there is a diesel fuel line that goes

1290
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,080
through the site. I'm not sure if that

1291
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,200
will come into play as a as a resource

1292
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,080
for

1293
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,360
backup energy to have uh

1294
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,440
diesel generators as a possibility, but

1295
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,400
um

1296
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,560
yeah, and there's also the possibility

1297
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:09,760
of

1298
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,720
maintaining a bunch of extra natural gas

1299
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:13,840
on site in silos, so that if anything

1300
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,440
were to happen to the pipeline that they

1301
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,320
still have that reservoir to to rely on.

1302
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,840
So, um I have not heard anything of

1303
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,960
batteries. The design isn't fully

1304
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,240
finished, but uh yeah, that's not

1305
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:29,360
anything I've heard so far. And and with

1306
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,640
the the rebates or whatever you want to

1307
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,440
call it, tax incentives that you might

1308
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,000
have would give what is what's what are

1309
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,960
you what is the company I mean, they're

1310
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,720
getting this tax incentive, but what are

1311
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:40,800
they supposed to do with this tax

1312
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,680
incentive? What what's the

1313
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,870
Why do you give it to them?

1314
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,120
It'll be used for development.

1315
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:53,280
Uh the the money that comes from the energy

1316
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,560
and compute will be utilized to help uh

1317
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:01,040
the development out there uh as well as

1318
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,320
uh

1319
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,880
they have to the infra- the infra-

1320
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,080
>> Yeah, who builds the infrastructure is

1321
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,760
what I want to know. Does the county or

1322
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,240
>> Nope, absolutely not. The the developer

1323
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,760
has committed to 100% of all

1324
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,160
infrastructure improvements. So, the

1325
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,960
roads, the sewer uh system, which will

1326
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,120
likely become a district, the the

1327
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,240
stormwater uh system underneath the

1328
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:24,400
roads, the developer will create all of

1329
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,240
that for the that leads into the

1330
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:28,520
development. Um

1331
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,680
no cost to the county, and then when the

1332
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,800
revenues come back to the county, uh

1333
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,440
yes, the municipal those municipal

1334
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,200
services will be

1335
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,920
um you will provide uh support um with

1336
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,080
maintenance and snow plow, the normal

1337
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,560
municipal services that you would

1338
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,280
through the county. Um but as far as the

1339
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,200
cost to the county in developing those

1340
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,640
infrastructure, that will be the

1341
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,400
developer. So, if I can compare this to

1342
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,440
something else that's happened in our

1343
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,000
county years ago in the 50s, um, we have

1344
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,480
a large corporation in in Western Box

1345
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,040
Elder County, Northrop Grumman. And so,

1346
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,440
most of it's not even county roads.

1347
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,600
There's a few county roads that do

1348
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,160
impact us that we have to work with them

1349
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,280
on and we continue to work with them on.

1350
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,640
But, most of them are state highways

1351
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,160
that go out to there and from. So, the

1352
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,560
state provides the plows and our

1353
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,800
deputies along with the highway patrol

1354
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,080
provide the the law enforcement

1355
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,600
protection. And then on base, they

1356
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,080
actually provide their own fire and

1357
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,240
ambulance services. Is that you think

1358
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:23,720
that will we provide provide the

1359
00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:26,040
ambulance fire services to this facility

1360
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,680
or will they end up maybe having their

1361
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,800
own?

1362
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,120
And I mean, obviously we'll provide law

1363
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,000
enforcement services up into that

1364
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,040
facility, but I I don't know if the

1365
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,320
facility would be thinking about

1366
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,840
contracting with the county for any of

1367
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,880
those services on the facility itself.

1368
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,840
Um, just kind of curious to see the take

1369
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,320
cuz I'm comparing us to what happened in

1370
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,840
the 50s here in Box Elder County with

1371
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,240
Northrop Grumman. So, Yeah, absolutely.

1372
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:51,000
Uh, yes, we would like to obviously have

1373
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000
the county partner with us to work out

1374
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,120
those services. Um, if amenable and and

1375
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,720
if if you want to

1376
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:01,960
contract with your different local, uh,

1377
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,160
municipalities around depending on where

1378
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,840
your resources are.

1379
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,240
I noticed in the local agreement there's

1380
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:09,400
some information about the fact that

1381
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,000
um, some of the stuff that the company

1382
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,360
will be required to buy would be fire

1383
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,800
trucks if possible if they depending on

1384
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,400
if the fire trucks that are available in

1385
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,480
the area aren't sufficient. The county

1386
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,600
taxpayers are not going to buy those

1387
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:20,200
fire trucks.

1388
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,560
>> That's right. We have height

1389
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,400
restrictions in the development and if

1390
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,360
they if if by chance we take it to the

1391
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:26,960
uh,

1392
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,600
DRC or the review committee and and a

1393
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,360
waiver is made for that and a and a a

1394
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,520
ladder truck is required for that

1395
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,040
particular height,

1396
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,040
the developer will cover that cost. Can

1397
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,240
I speak on that coming from Snowville?

1398
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:43,840
What the impacts of that might be and

1399
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:44,480
what it looks like?

1400
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,200
>> Ma'am, no. We I'm sorry.

1401
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,200
Excuse me. Okay.

1402
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,960
In further town halls, we can address

1403
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:58,350
more more of these questions, for sure.

1404
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,800
At the university, if you please, where

1405
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,470
we have room.

1406
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,520
What?

1407
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,000
We should have the meeting at the

1408
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,560
university where there's room for the

1409
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,720
people that are out in the hall. Sorry,

1410
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:11,630
ma'am.

1411
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,840
It's only your council now.

1412
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,400
It's not listening to the constituents.

1413
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,760
>> We'd actually like to We'd like to hold

1414
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,000
at least two town halls and

1415
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,760
uh throughout the the county, wherever

1416
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,480
you

1417
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,630
>> that'll be covering you.

1418
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:29,680
One more time and I'm going to have you

1419
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,680
removed. I'm sorry. We have to We have

1420
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,520
to keep control the meeting.

1421
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,680
We understand that. We We We've

1422
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:42,190
addressed that, so.

1423
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,240
Hi, Robert.

1424
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:44,840
The thing is, you've allowed this woman

1425
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,960
to come and speak three times.

1426
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,520
And you've allowed the public to speak a

1427
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:48,600
lot.

1428
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,320
>> Ma'am, ma'am.

1429
00:54:50,320 --> 00:55:06,630
Enough.

1430
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,320
If there's infrastructure put out there,

1431
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,920
the sewer system, water line, what

1432
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,480
happens at the end of the project with

1433
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,960
all of that?

1434
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,160
All the infra- All the public

1435
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,800
infrastructure will be deeded to the

1436
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,400
county.

1437
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,240
And then you will maintain with the

1438
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:23,440
municipal services funds that you're

1439
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:29,560
provided, uh either if at the phase one with three gigs, you'll

1440
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,400
have the additional $30 million

1441
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,280
to um provide those, or at full build

1442
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,480
out,

1443
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,440
you'll have the additional million or

1444
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:39,320
so.

1445
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:44,470
$108 million or so.

1446
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:45,600
And when we talk about the

1447
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,520
infrastructure they're going to build,

1448
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:48,680
um

1449
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,560
who how do we know that they're just not

1450
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,600
going to throw up whatever they want to

1451
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,520
throw up to make it look good? Um we

1452
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,200
for the development, we have a specific

1453
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,680
set of standards and guidelines that um

1454
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,720
will be adopted for this, but all of

1455
00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:03,280
those standards will be in line with

1456
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,880
what the county uh requires for your

1457
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,480
roads and and infrastructure.

1458
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,080
And will there be any residential um

1459
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,600
out there?

1460
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,720
There's no residential. Uh we've got

1461
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:18,760
some workforce housing temporary. Okay.

1462
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,120
Um and and like I said, the if

1463
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,880
Austin, would you like to talk more to

1464
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,160
the master plan? Yeah.

1465
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,160
there will be some temporary on

1466
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,880
site cuz you don't want all of those

1467
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,480
construction workers traveling back and

1468
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,440
forth on the 84 every day if you don't

1469
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:36,640
have to.

1470
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,240
Um and there will be some

1471
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:41,120
amenities around that, but no long-term

1472
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,600
residential will be going out there.

1473
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,760
So, the residential that could accompany

1474
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,880
this would most likely be closer to

1475
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:48,800
here.

1476
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,360
New developments around here that have

1477
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:51,760
been approved but haven't been built

1478
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,840
yet. There's there's quite a few, so I

1479
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,640
think all of those would get some

1480
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,160
much needed firepower behind them as

1481
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:05,630
there's going to be some demand.

1482
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,510
Let's

1483
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,800
What's

1484
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,520
It sounds like you have a concept of a

1485
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,504
plan.

1486
00:57:15,514 --> 00:57:19,230
» [laughter]

1487
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,160
» I noticed we also have in here that we

1488
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,200
uh any damage to any county road

1489
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,280
pertaining to this project will be

1490
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,480
covered and replaced and and paid for by

1491
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,160
Midas. Is that correct? Or or by the

1492
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,880
business, one of the two? Yes, the

1493
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,960
developer will will make [clears throat]

1494
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,680
sure that before anything is deeded over

1495
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:41,240
there's a strict inspections. Okay.

1496
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,400
I think that's the concern of our of our

1497
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,880
citizens is just what's going to put on,

1498
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,920
you know, this project and what it's

1499
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,840
going to put on their backs. And I think

1500
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,040
that's the concern that they have. And

1501
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,560
that's why going forward all these

1502
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,280
things that we've talked about that we

1503
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,760
needed costs, we needed upfront money

1504
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,160
before we could even start doing

1505
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,480
anything with the

1506
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,990
project. [clears throat]

1507
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,600
What is the state's contribution to all

1508
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,080
this as far as not myda, but the state

1509
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,400
of Utah, obviously they're going to see

1510
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,000
some money back from this. What do they

1511
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,960
what are they going to put in?

1512
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,600
The agreements haven't been finalized,

1513
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,360
but yes, um

1514
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,240
by law by myda law, the state is um

1515
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,960
is

1516
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,640
does have the option to benefit in these

1517
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:30,830
projects.

1518
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,990
» [snorts]

1519
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:42,910
» Let's see.

1520
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:49,430
Um

1521
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,680
So as I'm reading into this contract, it

1522
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,640
says um

1523
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,560
the agreement shall continue until the

1524
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,720
earlier of the expiration of the maximum

1525
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,920
period allowed by law or the date on

1526
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,560
which the project area ceases to exist.

1527
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,390
Who makes that decision?

1528
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,760
The project area will likely never cease

1529
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,080
to exist uh because well the it myda

1530
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,800
will will be

1531
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,160
responsible for the project area

1532
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,280
um once infrastructure is created or I'm

1533
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,280
sorry, constructed. So you're confident

1534
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,400
myda will be here for 50 years.

1535
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:28,840
Yes.

1536
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:39,870
>> Most of us aren't going to be here, so.

1537
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,880
I did hear a comment um multiple comments either

1538
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,600
through social media or actually here in

1539
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,120
the room. We are we are excited for the

1540
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,040
opportunity to build something that will

1541
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,920
allow

1542
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,640
uh your local residents or the local of

1543
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,720
Utah to be able to stay within Utah um

1544
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,640
and and have provided high-paying uh

1545
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,120
jobs that can allow them to stay and

1546
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,680
even farm as well.

1547
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,960
that that is actually one of the

1548
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,720
comments I hear quite often and I and I

1549
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,240
actually brought it up a couple times

1550
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,280
with the

1551
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,320
um

1552
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,840
I hear these data centers come in and

1553
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:15,800
they say that they're going to provide a

1554
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,640
lot of jobs,

1555
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,760
but then they don't.

1556
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,080
What is their

1557
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,440
you know, an agreement or whatever to

1558
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:23,440
hold their feet to the fire to say,

1559
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,560
"Hey,

1560
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:25,600
you know, you guys told us you're going

1561
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,240
to have 1,000, 2,000 jobs, you ended up

1562
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,680
with 200."

1563
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,080
Is there anything that we can go back

1564
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,240
and say, "Wait a minute, you know, you made all kinds of promises up front,

1565
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,710
but didn't fulfill your promises."

1566
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,000
Sure. Um I can speak to

1567
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,440
the different DOW

1568
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,840
contracts that'll be going in the the

1569
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,280
defense contracts and that will provide

1570
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,040
multiple jobs and also would like to

1571
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,480
talk to some of the other options.

1572
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,400
Yeah, so as a rule of thumb and

1573
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,000
obviously this gets to scale um as a

1574
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,440
rule of thumb for each gigawatt it's

1575
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,120
like 1,000 jobs. And so, we we project

1576
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,240
many, many more. The 2,000 is a pretty

1577
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,560
low benchmark to hit. That's why we keep

1578
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,960
saying it. Um and then in in addition,

1579
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,800
like I mentioned, the state has turned

1580
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,560
away so many

1581
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,400
high energy use manufacturers and

1582
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,600
defense manufacturers cuz they don't

1583
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,640
have the energy grid here.

1584
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,760
We are talking to many that will come to

1585
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,640
this site as well, and each one of those

1586
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:25,680
is

1587
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,800
a more traditional employer that there's

1588
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,640
hundreds of jobs per

1589
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:30,880
um

1590
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,600
so yeah, there'll be

1591
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,320
many many more than just the 2,000 that

1592
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,720
we're talking about, but that's the

1593
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,120
benchmark we want to put out there to

1594
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,840
say, you know,

1595
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,960
we we know we're going to hit this. It

1596
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,280
could be a lot more when you throw the

1597
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,720
manufacturing in and then the real

1598
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,960
numbers behind like a per gigawatt

1599
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,640
amount of jobs that it creates. We keep

1600
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,760
talking about the state benefit. What is

1601
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,040
the state benefit? Really, what is the

1602
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:59,070
benefit to the state?

1603
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,200
Being first to the table to help this

1604
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,320
national energy

1605
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,160
lack of energy.

1606
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:10,480
That we can that Utah can can provide

1607
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,600
our national or our military national

1608
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,350
security.

1609
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,870
Okay.

1610
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,040
So, okay, if we get this growth with the

1611
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,160
employment cuz this happened in the 50s

1612
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,480
here with the Northrop Grumman. We had a

1613
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,760
huge

1614
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:28,920
How are we going to take care of the

1615
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,600
local communities

1616
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,680
with if we end up with growth with more

1617
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,400
employers, that's going to add more

1618
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,520
students possibly to our school system.

1619
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,600
Obviously, we know we have we've got to

1620
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,520
deal with fire EMS what we're trying to

1621
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,360
figure out and

1622
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,080
where do we how do we take care of

1623
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,320
Snowville fire or we have end up

1624
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,000
creating a Howl fire department over the

1625
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,800
hill that's closer that's right there in

1626
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,480
the same vicinity.

1627
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,040
How do we deal with that kind of

1628
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,000
infrastructure and cost to our community

1629
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,080
because

1630
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,640
more homes, more people, we got to

1631
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,160
figure something out. We may have to

1632
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,000
build sewer systems

1633
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,560
to deal with some of these other folks

1634
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,560
that move in if it's say somebody you

1635
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,840
know, Snowville decides to allow people

1636
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,280
to grow. Well,

1637
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,680
right now in the county all in most of

1638
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:13,680
the unincorporated in a lot of the

1639
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,080
county, it's half acre lots best case

1640
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,600
scenario because of septic. So, if

1641
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,720
you're going to go more dense than that,

1642
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:21,560
then you're going to have to start

1643
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:22,760
thinking about sewer systems, and that's

1644
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,240
expensive infrastructure. Do you have

1645
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,840
any solutions or ideas for how we deal

1646
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,320
with that going into this situation?

1647
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:35,120
I don't have your solutions, but I what I have is the revenues that will

1648
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,880
come back to the county, and you can

1649
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,680
utilize those revenues however you deem

1650
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,040
fit for the county.

1651
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,440
Yes.

1652
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,244
There was a There was a study done by

1653
01:03:45,244 --> 01:03:47,080
[snorts] Idaho in reference to these

1654
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,400
data centers in Virginia, actually. Um

1655
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,040
a lot of people were concerned about,

1656
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:52,640
obviously,

1657
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:53,920
>> It was done by Idaho or Virginia, which

1658
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:54,440
one? I'm just

1659
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,080
>> It was It was in Idaho, but it was about

1660
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,080
the Virginia data centers. Um

1661
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,920
and uh they were talking about the tax

1662
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,280
reinvestment the state was putting back

1663
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,000
into the project. And it said, "For

1664
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,880
every $1 reinvested back in,

1665
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,720
the impact

1666
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,920
on the community produced $8. So, for

1667
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,280
every $1 into the project, there was $8

1668
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,600
in revenue

1669
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,680
back to the taxing authorities.

1670
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,160
So, just by all of the things that come

1671
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:22,000
with this, you're going to have

1672
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,040
additional retail demand, right? You're

1673
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,600
going to have an additional

1674
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,400
housing that's going to come in, and all

1675
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,440
of the other jobs and ancillary jobs and

1676
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,720
things outside of this project. There's

1677
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,720
studies been done that will show that it

1678
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,640
will be not only the benefit of this

1679
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,200
revenue, but

1680
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,240
you know, a lot more

1681
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:40,520
that comes along with it. This should

1682
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,710
fund all of that.

1683
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,080
So, if the revenue that you're talking

1684
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,720
about comes back into the county, the 30

1685
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,960
million, the 108 million,

1686
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,080
or wherever it goes from there,

1687
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,200
the county would be able to

1688
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,560
basically walk back to these cities and say,

1689
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:57,800
"We're going to give you this portion to

1690
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,640
help with this cost for infrastructure."

1691
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,640
Is that your understanding?

1692
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,840
Once municipal services are taken care

1693
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:04,499
of,

1694
01:05:04,499 --> 01:05:04,560
>> [clears throat and cough]

1695
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,550
>> the county has full discretion.

1696
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:20,470
Okay.

1697
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:29,910
» Let's see.

1698
01:05:29,920 --> 01:06:09,870
Sure covered up with it.

1699
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,920
Can't think of it. Oh, is there Okay,

1700
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,320
the other question I do want to ask I

1701
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,640
know we talked about water pollution.

1702
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,080
What about the

1703
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,080
study this far as ground? Um I know

1704
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,440
this same area was talked about

1705
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,640
10 15 years ago and dealing with the

1706
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,080
landfill.

1707
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,440
And there was talk about an earthquake

1708
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,680
and things like that. So is that is that

1709
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:31,800
something that's going to be has been

1710
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,440
considered, talked about? Is that a

1711
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,590
concern?

1712
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,520
Yeah, we we've done all our geotechnical

1713
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,160
studies and where the where the site is

1714
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,960
sits, there is a

1715
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,240
that earthquake that you're referencing

1716
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,400
is is quite a ways away. Okay. Um even

1717
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,040
though it goes by the same name, but uh

1718
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,440
yeah, it's uh there's no

1719
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:54,720
there's one fault line that's like

1720
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,400
750,000 years old and very dormant.

1721
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,080
>> Yeah. Um and the geotechnical

1722
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,120
professionals have said this site is

1723
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,160
very buildable and good. Okay. Good to

1724
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:05,680
go. Yeah.

1725
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,560
So have you drilled core samples to to

1726
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,080
and you've done all that? Yes. And the

1727
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,280
studies available for people to review

1728
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:18,510
or no? The geotechnical? Yeah. Yep.

1729
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,960
Where would they find that?

1730
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,680
Um we don't have it publicized

1731
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:28,630
currently, but [laughter]

1732
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,200
I mean, nobody's asked for it up until

1733
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,360
this point, but yeah. But it could be

1734
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:33,160
publicized.

1735
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:34,720
>> be publicized, right? We we will we will

1736
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,800
publicize all all of the all of the

1737
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,440
information. All the studies should be

1738
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,520
where the public can look. Yeah, all all the studies that are required, all

1739
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,120
the state studies, impact studies,

1740
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,400
they'll all be part of the master

1741
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,680
development plan and site plan,

1742
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,960
um which will be studied by

1743
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,440
the development review committee, which

1744
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:55,640
will be

1745
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,720
members of the county.

1746
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,600
But yes, if you would like a copy of that, I'm

1747
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:10,310
sure Austin would provide.

1748
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,280
So, you mentioned once

1749
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:13,680
uh talking about the purpose of the

1750
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,120
project.

1751
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,120
And I'm a little vague on that. Can you

1752
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,560
help me understand really what the

1753
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,120
purpose is?

1754
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,349
The millionaires and the billionaires.

1755
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:28,720
Why it is involved because we we we are

1756
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,319
involved in projects that have a clear

1757
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:34,720
military mission because of the

1758
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:41,080
energy deficiency that the that the country has, this will provide a

1759
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,640
segue into

1760
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,080
the energy compute and data storage that

1761
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:51,080
our our military needs. Um this will

1762
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:56,440
help the the energy the lack

1763
01:08:56,440 --> 01:08:59,799
of energy and it's just the start it's just the start and

1764
01:08:59,799 --> 01:09:03,880
that's the that is the full military mission and

1765
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,640
why and why it is involved is because we

1766
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,839
can give this opportunity to Utah to

1767
01:09:08,839 --> 01:09:11,040
bring

1768
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,759
energy independent energy

1769
01:09:13,759 --> 01:09:15,279
to the state.

1770
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:17,080
I'm I'm sure that most of us don't

1771
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:21,400
understand the requirements and the needs of the

1772
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,960
military as far as

1773
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,960
artificial intelligence and even

1774
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:27,799
computing stuff. I'm sure that most I

1775
01:09:27,799 --> 01:09:29,920
don't. I'm guessing that most of these

1776
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,640
folks don't either.

1777
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,480
It'd be nice to have someone who does

1778
01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:35,839
know that and analyze that and give us a

1779
01:09:35,839 --> 01:09:37,839
an idea.

1780
01:09:37,839 --> 01:09:39,319
Absolutely. Yeah.

1781
01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:40,759
>> You're hard to hear. Can you talk into

1782
01:09:40,759 --> 01:09:41,960
your phone?

1783
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,279
Sorry.

1784
01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:46,720
I said I don't really understand what

1785
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,359
the the military's would need. And I'm

1786
01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:52,400
pretty sure that most of us don't. It'd

1787
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,000
be nice to have a summary of what that

1788
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,120
would what that really means to us.

1789
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,480
Yeah, there's there's several um there's

1790
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:01,000
several studies and videos out there

1791
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,240
that I've seen um

1792
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,760
on who's producing the most compute

1793
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,320
power right now and what would happen

1794
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:09,760
in a future

1795
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,760
you know, conflict if we're

1796
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,960
outpowered and outcomputed by the

1797
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,000
competitors. I had a actually on another

1798
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,560
project military related a friend of

1799
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,000
mine that was over in Ukraine and all

1800
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,880
they're doing right now is drones

1801
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,960
computing to make sure that those drones

1802
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,960
can fight, right? And so it's extremely

1803
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,480
important when you've got countries like

1804
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:35,120
China that are producing hundreds of

1805
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:41,840
gigawatts a year and here in America we're we're very far behind. And so if a conflict

1806
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,120
like that were to come, we want to be

1807
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,920
able to protect ourselves. It is

1808
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,400
national security to have power and and

1809
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,280
compute power going forward.

1810
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,320
Yeah, I'm I mean I um

1811
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,840
I'm sure that all of the technology and

1812
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,240
all of the equipment that they use runs

1813
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,800
off that same technology, but I don't

1814
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,680
know what it is, you know.

1815
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,400
I know my tractors run off the same

1816
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,910
thing, you know, so.

1817
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,430
It'd be nice to know that.

1818
01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:12,080
And that that's something we can include

1819
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,320
in the fact sheets is what how this is

1820
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,000
used in the military.

1821
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,440
Yeah, that it'd be nice to know, you

1822
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,560
know, because we live in a digital age

1823
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,400
and I'm been around long enough to know

1824
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,040
that just cuz it's digital doesn't mean

1825
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:24,440
it's true.

1826
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:28,360
It'd be nice to have some solid facts

1827
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,150
to review.

1828
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,520
I'm just curious what my door the

1829
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,400
developers probably or you're from that

1830
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,000
side um

1831
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,600
would say if if I said, "Hey, I want to

1832
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,080
I want another week to figure this out

1833
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,040
to make before I make a decision."

1834
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,760
Um I just like to get your response if I

1835
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,160
said, "I'm going to ask for one more

1836
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,600
week because I think I want to gather

1837
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:48,480
just some a little bit more

1838
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:50,280
information." I've been like I said

1839
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,000
inundated over the weekend with a ton of

1840
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,040
information from a lot of folks.

1841
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,960
Um we've been asking questions. You you

1842
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,360
saw a number of questions we've sent to

1843
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:58,480
you over the weekend that came from

1844
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:00,960
these these constituents and folks.

1845
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,680
Um but there's there may still be a

1846
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:03,960
couple others, so I guess that's what

1847
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:09,040
I'm asking is if we said, "Hey, could can you wait one more week for us

1848
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,280
to gather more information just to

1849
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,720
gather a little bit more information

1850
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:16,794
before we make a final decision."

1851
01:12:16,804 --> 01:12:19,990
» [applause]

1852
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,080
» Of course we would respect we respect

1853
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,640
that. We respect the need and again we

1854
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,960
appreciate that all of the research that

1855
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,320
you've done and the time that you've put

1856
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,920
into this. Um I the reason why we're

1857
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,480
expediting is because we have this

1858
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:37,000
opportunity to receive the the the zero

1859
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,400
water

1860
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:39,080
turbines [clears throat]

1861
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,240
and and the

1862
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,520
and that that technology

1863
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,360
uh jumped the line for that, but of

1864
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:50,480
course I would respect your uh need for more time.

1865
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:54,870
Okay.

1866
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,160
Well, and honestly, we have asked

1867
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,840
you tons of questions this week, and one

1868
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,880
of the big things is is a lot of the

1869
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,040
questions that that we're asking today

1870
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,080
have come from our citizens.

1871
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,840
The questions that you've sent us and

1872
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,040
the concerns and those type of things.

1873
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,120
And so, that's [clears throat] why a lot

1874
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,680
of these questions we're asking have

1875
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,120
come from you. There's There are I've

1876
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,200
had several questions as well that have

1877
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:20,960
been asked that I've asked that have

1878
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,840
been answered, but we wanted you to hear

1879
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,000
those questions as well, plus have your

1880
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,120
questions answered. So,

1881
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:33,320
we appreciate you sending those questions, um,

1882
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,320
online.

1883
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,520
Thank you for the opportunity

1884
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,600
once again to present in front of you

1885
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,800
and answer the questions, and we hope to

1886
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,280
have more opportunities in town halls

1887
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,400
to, um,

1888
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,800
to help educate not not just ourselves

1889
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,560
yourselves, but the whole the county as

1890
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,440
a whole and the state as a whole. We're

1891
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:54,960
excited for this development. We're

1892
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,600
excited what it can do for the state,

1893
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:57,560
for

1894
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,400
the county, and military.

1895
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,040
Do you have any problems with us sharing

1896
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,040
with the public? I mean, obviously,

1897
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:05,520
we've we've been waiting to get

1898
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,520
everything for this, uh, interlocal

1899
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,240
cooperative agreement.

1900
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,080
Um,

1901
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:12,680
but if we were to say, "Hey, we want to

1902
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,600
share what what we're talking about as

1903
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:15,960
far as the information in the interlocal

1904
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,480
agreement and saying this is what we're

1905
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:18,960
working toward." Is that a problem if we

1906
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,960
share that with our public?

1907
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,560
That's fine. You can talk to it. What?

1908
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:24,920
That's fine. You'd be fine with that.

1909
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,080
So, we can say, "This is what we're

1910
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,640
working toward." And we've been asked I

1911
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,280
would just just let the public know

1912
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:30,600
we've been asking lots of questions

1913
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,640
since we were made aware of this. And,

1914
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:34,520
uh,

1915
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,840
unequivocally say that I know all three

1916
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,600
of us and and Austin, you can back you

1917
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,440
can you don't have to back us up, but

1918
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:43,240
all three of us were a hard no when this

1919
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:44,680
started, um,

1920
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:45,920
because of some concerns and the

1921
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,040
questions, and you've been answering

1922
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,520
questions. We do appreciate that.

1923
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:50,680
But

1924
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,440
there's like I said, this is

1925
01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:55,440
coming fast and we were the last at the

1926
01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:56,840
table and that's one of the concerns we

1927
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,200
have is the fact that we were last at

1928
01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:59,440
the table.

1929
01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:00,840
And that's one of the concerns we have

1930
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,720
right now as a commission as we're going

1931
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,400
through all this information. We just

1932
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:06,640
As has been mentioned by Commissioner

1933
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,360
Bingham, if we do this, it it is

1934
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,400
irrevocable and that is a concern we

1935
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,040
have as a county is we want to make sure

1936
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,320
that we're making the right decision for

1937
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,600
the citizens of Box Elder County moving

1938
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:17,960
forward and that's why we want to make

1939
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,680
sure that we we've done it right. So I

1940
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,200
think that's my concern. You have

1941
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:22,520
anything you want to share with us about

1942
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,200
that as your concern wise?

1943
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:24,840
No.

1944
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,440
That would be understandable. I will say

1945
01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:28,440
the the rush [snorts] that Hillary

1946
01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:31,840
speaks to is there are five groups that

1947
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,480
will front this that will get this over

1948
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:36,680
the line and we have the chance to

1949
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,560
kind of like she said jump the line and

1950
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:39,880
we've been told

1951
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,280
that that needs to happen this month

1952
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:47,990
whether that's true or not, but that's the reason for the rush.

1953
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,920
When I [clears throat] would echo

1954
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,200
Commissioner Perry, we've had lots of

1955
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,920
discussion trying to figure this out and

1956
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,600
understand this and and um

1957
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,800
although you know, through the studies

1958
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,680
and those type of things

1959
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,120
um we've learned a lot, but it's

1960
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,440
couple of concerning things and

1961
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:08,800
Commissioner Perry

1962
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,360
spoke of this is that we were brought in

1963
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,520
at the last at last hour.

1964
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,160
And then expected to just run with this.

1965
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,480
For us that was um frustrating and hard

1966
01:16:19,480 --> 01:16:22,040
for us. Also over the weekend the amount

1967
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,000
of emails [clears throat]

1968
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,440
and those type of things that we've got

1969
01:16:24,440 --> 01:16:26,760
from our constituents and from our

1970
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,000
citizens.

1971
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:28,640
Um

1972
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:29,880
and so

1973
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,240
I um

1974
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,720
I don't know. I I would concur with

1975
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:34,920
Commissioner

1976
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,560
uh Perry um

1977
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,800
and echo his same thoughts.

1978
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,240
And I'm sure Commissioner Bingham can

1979
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,480
speak to that as well if you'd like, so.

1980
01:16:42,480 --> 01:16:45,160
Yep. Yep, I feel like there's more to be

1981
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:46,680
understood.

1982
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,960
Well, and I just put a We did We did say

1983
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:50,440
in a in our previous commission on the

1984
01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:52,040
3rd when we had public comment and when

1985
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,560
we met the last time, um we had public

1986
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,120
comment and we did pass a resolution

1987
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,480
saying we were We are interested.

1988
01:16:58,480 --> 01:16:59,640
This is not to say that we're not

1989
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,560
interested in the project. That we're

1990
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,080
interested in it cuz just to give you

1991
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,960
some idea, um I pulled some numbers this

1992
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,120
morning.

1993
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,320
Um Box Elder County, if you take all the

1994
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:09,560
property taxes that are paid in this

1995
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,600
county, it's $75 million roughly $76

1996
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,320
million a year for every property tax

1997
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:14,920
that's paid in this county.

1998
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:16,600
And this return that we're talking about

1999
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,080
with full development would be $108

2000
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,480
million, which is far and exceed that.

2001
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:22,760
Um but there's there are costs that are

2002
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:23,840
going to be associated with this where

2003
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,080
we have to build out sewer systems,

2004
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,600
build fire departments. There's going to

2005
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,160
be things that have to happen that are

2006
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,720
going to cut cost cut into that cost.

2007
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,280
But it is a significant amount and uh so

2008
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:34,320
there is a

2009
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,000
That is part of what I just got that

2010
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,320
information this morning as I'm looking

2011
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,080
at it. And so that's why I want to be

2012
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,400
able to to mull that over. Um and so I

2013
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:47,040
am I want to move I want to continue to do that, but I would be make I'd be

2014
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,480
willing to make a motion if the chair is

2015
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:50,960
interested in a motion at this point.

2016
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,480
I'll I'll be great. Okay, my motion

2017
01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:54,880
would be that uh

2018
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,760
we table the two items until next Monday

2019
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,640
and we reschedule another commission

2020
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,520
meeting for next Monday to address these

2021
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,920
issues once we've had time to share with

2022
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,280
the public the information we've been

2023
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,360
presented in the last 24 to 48 hours so

2024
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:09,680
that it's out there for the public to

2025
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:10,680
see

2026
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,640
and that uh we can

2027
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,280
come back and and make a decision

2028
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,000
next Monday.

2029
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:18,800
That would be MY MOTION.

2030
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:19,679
>> THAT.

2031
01:18:19,679 --> 01:18:22,944
>> [applause]

2032
01:18:22,954 --> 01:18:24,640
[cheering]

2033
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,400
>> HAVE A HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER

2034
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,440
Bingham or Commissioner Perry to table

2035
01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:31,520
um the two items before us and a second

2036
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,640
by Commissioner Bingham.

2037
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,480
If there's no further discussion, all in

2038
01:18:35,480 --> 01:18:36,480
favor?

2039
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:37,920
I.

2040
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,830
Motion passes.

2041
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,680
Do we need to decide what time our

2042
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,680
meeting will be on that Monday?

2043
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,670
Should we do 10:00 a.m.?

2044
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,720
6:00 a.m.?

2045
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,280
Sorry. I want 4:00 a.m.

2046
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:56,359
Just kidding.

2047
01:18:56,359 --> 01:19:02,190
>> [laughter]

2048
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:03,320
» Mr.

2049
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,040
What time would you like to do?

2050
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,280
No preference.

2051
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,800
Then any will work for me.

2052
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,920
Um

2053
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,480
Let's look at the schedule real quick.

2054
01:19:13,480 --> 01:19:18,470
You got a career schedule.

2055
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:20,120
You want to go

2056
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,680
4:00 in the afternoon like our afternoon

2057
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:22,440
meetings are?

2058
01:19:22,440 --> 01:19:23,840
>> Okay with me.

2059
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,080
So I say we schedule a meeting for 4:00

2060
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,280
on Monday the 4th.

2061
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,440
Okay. Is that a motion?

2062
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:33,440
That is a motion to go 4:00 on Monday

2063
01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:35,240
the 4th. We'll have another meeting.

2064
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:36,720
I'll second it.

2065
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,600
Motion to

2066
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,640
have a meeting Monday

2067
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:45,640
May 4th at 4:00 in these chambers.

2068
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:46,800
Um

2069
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,200
then be approved by Commissioner

2070
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:53,110
Perry made the motion second.

2071
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,120
Will that work for you folks? I'll be

2072
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,200
here.

2073
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:57,760
Okay.

2074
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,720
Have a second by Commissioner

2075
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:00,160
Bingham.

2076
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,000
>> Yes.

2077
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,840
You know what? Yes, sir.

2078
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,120
We have the possibility and I think we

2079
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,760
ought to do this for May 4th. I would

2080
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,160
like to fix my motion. I think May 4th

2081
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,600
4:00 p.m. at 4:00 p.m. But we'll have it

2082
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,880
at the county Well, is it is it

2083
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,640
available?

2084
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:17,000
Verify that it's available, but I would

2085
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,720
like to I think if we can I'd like to

2086
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,400
I'm going to just verify real quickly,

2087
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:21,320
but I'd like to hold it in the

2088
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:22,960
fairgrounds in the fine arts building

2089
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,360
which is a larger facility for more

2090
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,080
people can be there. So let me just

2091
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:27,405
verify

2092
01:20:27,405 --> 01:20:28,120
>> [applause]

2093
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:29,680
>> Let me just verify real quickly. We're

2094
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,160
going to find out if that that building

2095
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:32,880
is available real quickly, and then we

2096
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:51,790
will finish that motion.

2097
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,080
We're good? Okay.

2098
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:54,600
All right, the fairgrounds is available,

2099
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,400
so that my motion would be at 4:00 p.m.

2100
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,720
next Monday at the county fairgrounds is

2101
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,360
where we'll have the meeting. Second.

2102
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,080
Have a motion by

2103
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,760
Commissioner Perry to meet at the 4:00

2104
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,120
at the

2105
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,000
fairgrounds next week, and a second by

2106
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,200
Commissioner Bingham.

2107
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,040
All in favor, say aye. Aye.

2108
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:15,000
Okay.

2109
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:15,840
Appreciate it.

2110
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,160
>> I make a motion that we adjourn. Second.

2111
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:19,880
I have a motion by Commissioner Perry to

2112
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:21,200
adjourn, and second by Commissioner

2113
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,240
Bingham. All in favor, Aye. Thank you so

2114
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,480
much for being here. We appreciate you

2115
01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:29,350
coming today.

2116
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,790
And I need a bag.

2117
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,720
I have one out in the car.