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Good. Okay. Um, court got out late today

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uh, being the the time that it is, we

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don't want to waste anybody's time.

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and we won't today. We'll go right into

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our, um, commission meeting. So, um, the

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invocation will be given by myself after

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which uh, Corey Wild will give our uh,

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pledge of allegiance.

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Our heavenly fathers, we bow before thee

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this day. We are grateful for thy many

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blessings. Father, we are so thankful

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for the many blessings that thou bestows

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upon us each and every day. For the

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freedoms we enjoy in this country, the

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opportunity which you have to live here.

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Father in heaven, we are so grateful for

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our military and for our emergency

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services and for our police that protect

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us and keep us safe. Father in heaven,

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we're thankful, Father in heaven, for um

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all that thou provides. We ask that they

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might continue to bless us, Father, with moisture and help us to continue to live here and to enjoy being around

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one another. That we might be kind and understanding to those our neighbors

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and those who are around us. Father in

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heaven, we would ask at this time for a

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special blessing to be upon us here that

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as things are discussed this day that

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we'll be cordial and kind that we will

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uh sit back and and try to understand

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those things are being presented. Father

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in heaven, we love thee and appreciate

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thee. We ask that thee might please

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bless everybody in this room this day as

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uh they are here and also as they travel

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that they will be watched over and kept

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safe. We're thankful, Father in heaven,

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for thee and for thy son. And we say his

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name of thy son Jesus Christ. Amen.

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To the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for it

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stands one nation

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indivisible with liberty and justice for

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» All right. Thank you, Corey. We

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appreciate that. Um,

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>> so I have uh reviewed the minutes and

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make a motion to approve the minutes

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from April April 22nd, 2026.

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>> I'll second it.

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>> We have a motion to approve the minutes

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by Commissioner Bingham and a second by

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Commissioner Perry. There's no further

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discussion. All in favor say I.

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>> I. Motion passes.

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>> Okay. Administrative review, reports,

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and future agenda items. Commissioner

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>> I have nothing to add today.

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>> And I have nothing as well.

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>> And I have nothing as well. Emergency

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management.

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>> Emergency manager is probably out

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dealing with the windstorm.

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Commissioners agreement

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um number 2620

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uh for use of private property as

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firearm shooting range and Al Smart uh

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can you come up and just kind of visit

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with us a little bit about that. Al

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appreciate you being here.

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That's great, Al.

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>> Hey, Al, can we get you a little closer

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Oh, Mike's working it here instead.

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the Tmont and Bothwell range.

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Did you I do you have any information as

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um you you provided and I've read the lease agreement right now you're

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basically saying if we allow the

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wildlife federation to use that range

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which is ours that you'll allow the the

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deputies and the officers in the county

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use the other range in Manowway which is

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yours. Is that correct?

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>> All active duty law enforcement and

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military are granted a freebie to the

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range. Anybody in here

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having you guys be at that range has

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helped uh keep some of the vandalism

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>> The county sheriff popped up last time

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when we came to one of these meetings

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when we got it established. He said

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vandalism have gone down 92% in the

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county with firearms since we opened

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that range.

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>> Commissioners,

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>> Just to let you know, there is um in the

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contract, we changed it to a five-year

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contract from a four-year contract at

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Mr. Smart's request. Um we also left the

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liability requirement at 2 million on

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the insurance policy. Um the state does

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require the county to cover up to three

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million on liability. Um, and so what

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that would do is if um the federation

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covers their policy for the two million

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if there happened to be an incident,

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just so you're aware, that would put

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some liability onto the county for that

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extra million.

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insured for $5 million.

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I would make a motion that we approve

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agreement 2620 for the use of property

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as firearm as firearm shooting range as

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explained and presented to us.

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to approve 2620 for use of property as

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firearm shooting range by Al Smart and a

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second by Commissioner Bingham. If

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there's no further discussion, all in

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favor say I.

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>> Motion passes. Thanks Al. Appreciate it.

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» Okay. Uh review and decision on the U.

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historic orchard pathway. Um and Scott

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Appreciate being here, Scott.

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» All right.

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Not very loud. Scott Lions, Community

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Development Department. Uh so this is

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the state aid agreement for the historic

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orchard pathway. This is a uh multi-use

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non-motorized pathway that would extend

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from, if you're familiar with the it's

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already constructed from 800 north to

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the north border of Willard City. They

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constructed that portion and then Perry

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City has taken it from there. They're

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not quite to Walmart, but almost. It's

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under construction the further north you

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go. Uh this is uh an agreement between

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UD do and Willard City and Boxelder

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county. So that's down where the like

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anyway, so this this basically clarifies

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the county's responsibility in that uh

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that and UD do's responsibility in that.

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combining to contribute a 20% match. Uh

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UD do is coming up with the 80% match. U

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DOT is actual cash the county and

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Willard City is the the value of the

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ride ofway that they're contributing for

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the trail is going into that and then

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the value the county has an easement uh

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across UTA property and the value of

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that easement uh is going towards that.

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again right ofway and then uh you UD do

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complete the project.

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>> So is this in progress Scott or is this

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projected going forward till when?

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>> No, this this would give us kind of

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green light the funding so that we could

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begin the final design and construction

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of the project.

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>> How long does it anticipate for it to

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uh Jones and Associates is our engineer.

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engineering firm for Willard City and

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likely will be ultimately assigned as

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the project manager. So, we'll see when

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the design phase what the time timeline

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>> So, thank you.

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make a motion that we approve

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um decision on the U dot state aid

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agreement 2619 for the historic orchard

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pathway as explained by Scott Lions.

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>> Second.

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>> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry

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to approve the U. State aid agreement

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number 2619 for the historic Orchard

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Pathway and a second by Commissioner

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Bingham. If there's no further

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>> Motion passes. Thank you.

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under under uh num number

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under under the fire department number B

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uh cooperation

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uh commitment statement agreement 26-21.

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to us about that. Thanks for being c

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being here Kevin.

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>> Kevin Lloyd Box County Fire Marshal. Um

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participation amount participation

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commitment from with the state uh for

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our the CWPP the cooperative wildlife

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protection plan of this is what we're

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going to give for basically that

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insurance policy. Uh what you got in

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front of you is some of the uh fuel

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brakes that they're going to create. uh

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some other projects that are lined up,

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some new equipment, um new brush trucks

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that are coming out, water trucks, uh

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whole new fleet heading out that way

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with our participation out the state's

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allowing us to build those through that.

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» Commissioners, any discussion?

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>> Um I don't have questions.

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>> just with this agreement, are we going

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to be able to do some things to help?

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Like I said, you have HAL is kind of out

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there on their own right now with some

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of this. I know we've got some folks

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moving out there. Will I be able to help

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those folks in Hal?

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>> Yeah, actually two of my wardens are

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moving out there.

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fire engines. We've talked to Hal a

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couple times. They're excited that we're

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coming out that way, too.

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>> Good to know because yeah, they're a

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long ways from other fire departments.

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So, it's a good thing we've got

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>> Yeah. Northrup rumor mill, but they

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might be closing that north plant, too,

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which has been helping us out in how for

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a while.

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Okay.

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>> Well, thank you. That's great

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information. Um, I'd entertain a motion.

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>> I'd make a motion that we approve coop

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the cooperative for wild and fire system

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participation commitment statement

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agreement 26-21.

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>> Second.

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>> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry

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to approve the cooperation wildlife

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system participation commitment

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statement agreement number 26-21 and a

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second by Commissioner Bingham. If

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there's no further discussion, all in

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favor say I.

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>> I.

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>> Motion passes. Thank you. Appreciate it,

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Kevin.

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» Plan's not You didn't You've already

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done that.

305
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>> Yeah, we did the plan already.

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>> The plan got approved in February, but I

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think Kevin needs a signed copy of it to

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send into the state along with this one.

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» Okay. Under the treasur's office, a

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request for forgiveness of late fees due

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to incorrect name on the notice account

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number Bravo 00000157.

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Jessica Smith

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and Corey Wild is going to visit with us

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on that.

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So, this item is in regards to a mobile

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home which is assessed as personal

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property instead of real. My

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understanding was prior to right now it

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was in her husband's name which was

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Justin

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excuse me should have been Justin Morris

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spelled M O R S and it was being mailed

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to Justin Moore M O R E probably just a

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typo or something. Um apparently that's

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the reason for the two years of

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non-payment and late fees. And I have a number here. I can give you this paper

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that the interest is calculated through

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yesterday if you want that for

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reference. But that what this item's in

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relation to. It was a wrong spelling on

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the last name for the it's now recorded

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in Jessica Smith's name, but for the two

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years in question

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was under Justin's name,

336
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>> but she's willing to pay the the regular

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taxes on it. Will you if we just forgive

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the late fees?

339
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>> That's my understanding. I haven't

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spoken with her. Erica, our personal

341
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property clerk has, but I said I'd come

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here and handle this tonight. But

343
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>> I mean, it sounds like a legitimate

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issue that's happened. Um, I think I

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would I would support um I'd make a

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motion that we forgive the late fees due

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to the incorrect name on that notice

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account of B0000157.

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» Second. We have a motion uh by

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Commissioner Perry to forgive the late

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fees due to incorrect name on the notice

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account of number uh B0000157

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and a second by Commissioner Bingham. If

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there's no further discussion, all in

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favor say I.

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>> I.

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Motion passes.

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>> Thank you.

359
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>> Okay. requesting an extension payment

360
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plan for property tax parcel

361
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03-137-000032.

362
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Dustin Norman, would you just come and

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visit with us for a minute? Dustin,

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gentlemen.

365
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>> Okay. Can you just visit with us? Why

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are you requesting this?

367
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>> Um, when I met last time with you guys,

368
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I was under the impression I'd be

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released back to full duty at work. The

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medical doctors did not do that.

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December 8th.

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>> And then also,

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>> can you get closer to your microphone?

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>> Yes, sir. Um, I was not released back to

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work till December 8th, even though I

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thought it'd be sooner to the last time

377
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we met. And then due to medical issues,

378
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um, they've taken most of that, uh,

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income that's come in, but now that's

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been taken care of. Um, I've met with a

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few individuals in the county behind

382
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closed doors without violating HIPPA and

383
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grammar for anybody else about medical

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conditions and just requested for

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another one. But even I was lost with

386
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the fact that in the wording of the last

387
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meeting I uh requested for a year, but

388
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it was put in writing that it was till

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the year um less than five months. And I

390
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was like, I was shocked by that. But I

391
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did everything I could since then and

392
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made payments since then. And I request

393
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that I could have another full year to

394
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continue making the payments and getting

395
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that taken care of if you guys would

396
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allow

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>> any I'd like to hear from Sean. Sean,

398
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do

399
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>> you have any questions? Commissioner.

400
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» Yeah. If you just kind of what he what

401
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um he's Mr. Dustin, explain to us, Mr.

402
00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:16,000
Norman, explain to us where are they at?

403
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Where is he at at this point? Where are

404
00:17:17,439 --> 00:17:19,039
we?

405
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The total amount owing right now is

406
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$9,235.89

407
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represents about six years in back

408
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taxes.

409
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Slightly more than he did last year. He

410
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has made payments since uh he's had

411
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employment. There have been five

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payments made in the last 12 months.

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» And then commissioners, on the legal

414
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side, we do have an existing agreement

415
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in place with Mr. Norman that if we were

416
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to move forward with some sort of

417
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amendment, we would need to do that

418
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officially through an updated agreement.

419
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But we could put that together if that's

420
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what you chose.

421
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So, Mr. Norman, is the plan to have it

422
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paid off by the end of the year

423
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>> within a year from today? I hope so.

424
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Yes, sir. But if not, if it pleases

425
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commission, I'll be back here in a year

426
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and I'll check in with you to let you

427
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know exactly how we have been doing.

428
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» Um, so how much do you owe on on the the

429
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residents at this point? Do you have any

430
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idea of how much that is?

431
00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:31,360
>> Yes, sir. I guess what I'm looking for

432
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is I noticed some things on here. I'm

433
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just trying to figure out is we had

434
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somebody come into us and asked for the

435
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same type of thing and they went and got

436
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a home equity loan and just took care of

437
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their their obligation rather than us

438
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having to carry this the county. I just

439
00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:45,360
wondered if that's if you explored that

440
00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:47,600
option or

441
00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,880
because we we'd rather have you work

442
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with the bank and just have it on the books of the county is what we're

443
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talking about.

444
00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,559
>> Yes, sir. And with a packed house like

445
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this and way too many video recordings,

446
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it's not fun going public with my

447
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information. But due to the fact of all

448
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the medical bills over the last year and

449
00:19:01,039 --> 00:19:02,320
a half from me being on long-term

450
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disability,

451
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>> um, a lot of those have come back with

452
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,520
late payments and stuff like that, only

453
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making 50% on long-term disability

454
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because they don't explain that to

455
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people. And so, a lot of bills got

456
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behind and have been since caught up,

457
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,000
but with late fees and stuff like that,

458
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they're saying no. And in answer to your

459
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first question, my land title and deed

460
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are at home in the safe. My property is

461
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paid off.

462
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There we go.

463
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Okay, commissioners, if there's no

464
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further discussion,

465
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» can we get a motion?

466
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Soul any saying that if uh we do

467
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anything we've got to update an

468
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agreement?

469
00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:02,640
>> Yes, we do. We have a current one in

470
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place that um

471
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that has not been complied with and so

472
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it basically has voided that agreement

473
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and so to move forward we would need to

474
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update that with whatever the new terms

475
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are that the commission feels most

476
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comfortable with.

477
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But we can do that.

478
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And this is your current residence, Mr.

479
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,039
Norman?

480
00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:29,039
>> Yes, sir. Mine, my spouses, and my

481
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brother-in-laws.

482
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:37,510
>> Okay.

483
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» So, are you employed now? You say you're

484
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back to work?

485
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:50,950
>> Yes, sir. Full time. North Cleo.

486
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Well, I don't want to put anybody out of

487
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a house. Um, I am concerned about the

488
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fact that

489
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agreement was put in place and it didn't

490
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appear to be um complied with and I

491
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understand HIPPA and different things,

492
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but it's incumbent upon you that you

493
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make sure that you if we give you this

494
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other year, you if there's even the

495
00:21:08,159 --> 00:21:10,480
least bit of a question, you got to get

496
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back in and start talking to us. Don't

497
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,960
wait the whole year. Don't wait till 12

498
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,400
months is up and then you're like, "Oh,

499
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,840
I didn't get it taken care of." That

500
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,480
can't be the case. Um, it's got to be

501
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,919
the second you think there's a problem,

502
00:21:21,919 --> 00:21:24,880
you need to get back, meet with our our

503
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,039
treasur, let them know, talking with our

504
00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:28,320
folks and making sure that's aware of

505
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it. But with that, I will make a motion

506
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that we'll extend we have you do a

507
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follow-up agreement for one year, and we

508
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would ask that you work toward getting

509
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,200
that paid off within that year.

510
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>> One full year.

511
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>> Within one year. Yes.

512
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>> Okay. I'm just double checking because

513
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when we did get over to make the

514
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agreement, that's when they tried

515
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,960
saying, "Oh, it's like $2,400 a month

516
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,720
and oh, by the wording in the court, it

517
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,039
was only five months." And even other

518
00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:54,400
members that were in the courtroom were

519
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,080
under or in the commission were under

520
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,120
the impression it was a full year.

521
00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:58,480
>> But you need to get in to the county

522
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attorney's office this week. Get that

523
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,840
taken care of so that it's it's one

524
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,200
year. It's not one year from when you

525
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,320
show up at the county attorney's office.

526
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,919
It needs to be one year from we're going

527
00:22:05,919 --> 00:22:07,039
forward here. So, that would be my

528
00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:09,039
motion.

529
00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:11,440
Uh just one other thing. Um I understand

530
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,960
that agreement, but you need to

531
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,960
understand that the county works on a

532
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,880
calendar year. So at the end of the

533
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,480
year, then the treasur's office is going

534
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,919
to be viewing it differently than you

535
00:22:19,919 --> 00:22:22,720
are. So that's one reason why need to

536
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,480
come in probably before the end of the

537
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,640
year. You know, make that figured out.

538
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,080
But anyway, with that in mind, I'll

539
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,400
second your motion.

540
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,799
>> Okay. and Dustin. Yeah. Make sure you

541
00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:34,559
work with with Sean with these guys,

542
00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:36,799
Sean and these guys so they know. If if

543
00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:38,799
you're having an issue, please don't

544
00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:40,559
wait. Make sure you get in and talk to

545
00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:40,960
them.

546
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,559
>> No, I will. You and Sean are the two

547
00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:43,280
that know.

548
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,440
>> Okay, sounds good. So, we have a motion

549
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,880
by Commissioner Perry to approve the

550
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,400
extended payment for the uh planned

551
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,750
property tax parcel 03-137-0032

552
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,000
and a second by Commissioner Bingham.

553
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,760
There's no further discussion. All in

554
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,880
favor say I.

555
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:03,440
>> I.

556
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:11,430
>> Okay. Motion passes.

557
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,480
» Thank you, gentlemen.

558
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,200
>> Thank you.

559
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,720
>> I do feel for you dealing with what

560
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,280
you're dealing with.

561
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,840
>> Okay. Resolution number 2613

562
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,640
adopted revised and updated personal

563
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,679
policies and procedures regarding fleet

564
00:23:27,679 --> 00:23:31,120
policies and occupational safety and

565
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,760
health. And Jennica is going to do this.

566
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:34,880
Who do we

567
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,480
>> Annie's going to do this after? Sorry,

568
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:36,880
Annie.

569
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,840
>> Oh, no, that's fine. Um what we found

570
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,720
over the last year is that um there were

571
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,280
some discrepancies between two sections

572
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,440
of our policy regarding the failure to

573
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,240
report accidents um that outline two

574
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,559
different disciplinary processes for the

575
00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:55,760
staff. And so the changes made to the

576
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,720
policy through this resolution corrects

577
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,799
those discrepancies and make sure that

578
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:07,750
we're um following the same process.

579
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,880
can entertain a motion.

580
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,720
>> With that in mind, I would make a motion

581
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,320
that we approve resolution number 26-13,

582
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,240
adopting revised and updated personal

583
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,400
policies and procedures regarding fleet

584
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,039
policies and occupational safety and

585
00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:24,480
health as mentioned by Annie Hansen.

586
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,440
>> Second it. We have a We have a motion by

587
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,840
Commissioner Bingham to approve number

588
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,600
26-13

589
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,080
adopting revised and update updated

590
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,159
personal policies and procedures

591
00:24:36,159 --> 00:24:38,240
regarding fleet policies and

592
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,720
occupational safety and health as

593
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,279
presented by Annie Hansen, a second by

594
00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,679
Commissioner uh Perry. If there's no

595
00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:47,840
further discussion, all in favor say I.

596
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,549
>> I. Motion passes.

597
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:55,200
Okay, before we get into our public

598
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,559
comment period, um our our commissioners

599
00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:01,360
would like to say a few things. Um and

600
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:03,360
so I will we will start with

601
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:06,559
Commissioner Bingham first and then

602
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,000
we'll go to Commissioner Perry and then

603
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,159
to myself.

604
00:25:10,159 --> 00:25:12,159
>> First off, I appreciate all those that

605
00:25:12,159 --> 00:25:13,840
are coming. I know this has been a

606
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,400
challenge for everybody involved.

607
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,799
Um,

608
00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:20,720
and I appreciate the opportunity to hear

609
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,919
what you have to say. I know, um, a lot

610
00:25:23,919 --> 00:25:27,360
of, uh, stress and anxiety came from our

611
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:30,159
meeting last week. Um, the fact of the

612
00:25:30,159 --> 00:25:32,000
matter was, uh, we couldn't conduct

613
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,360
business because we couldn't hear each

614
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,120
other talk.

615
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:37,279
So, uh, we appreciate the fact that

616
00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:39,279
you're here. We appreciate the fact that

617
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:41,679
you're here to learn. We put a lot of

618
00:25:41,679 --> 00:25:44,559
information out on the county's website.

619
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:46,640
We've tried to respond to all we can,

620
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,400
but um we have listened and read

621
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,360
uh I don't know somewhere in the 2500 to

622
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:59,600
3500 public comment via email, via text.

623
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,000
So we've heard comments

624
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,480
um and we appreciate the opportunity

625
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,919
you're here today to hear what you have

626
00:26:05,919 --> 00:26:08,000
to say today. Thank you.

627
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,120
>> Thank you, Commissioner B and

628
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:10,159
Commissioner Perry.

629
00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:12,159
>> Thank you, Commissioner. Um I just want

630
00:26:12,159 --> 00:26:15,279
to reiterate the fact that uh

631
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:17,120
last Monday the meeting the intent was

632
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:19,600
to to try and share information. We um

633
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,000
just for timeline we we received this

634
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,559
very late notice on what was happening

635
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:28,000
and um we immediately began due

636
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,320
diligence trying to find out what our

637
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,120
ability as a county was to push back and to try and find out whether this was

638
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:36,480
even a legitimate thing that was being

639
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,200
brought to our county. Um, so we met

640
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,360
with the land owners out there and they

641
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:42,640
explained that they had signed

642
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,159
agreements and they were on they were on

643
00:26:44,159 --> 00:26:47,840
in support of this process and we still

644
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,039
felt like we needed to put some

645
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:50,880
protections in place if if we were to

646
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,880
support the their right to sell their

647
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,279
property as private property owners and

648
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:56,880
knowing that it's unzone land in our

649
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,360
county. Um, we were fully aware of that

650
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,840
and we then consulted with our

651
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,360
attorney's office and we hired an

652
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,279
outside legal counsel and asked for

653
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:06,559
their guidance and direction in this

654
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:10,960
matter. and which point he told us that

655
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,559
based on the first time we knew about

656
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:15,520
this officially was when Maida came and

657
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,039
presented it to us just prior to a

658
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:18,720
commission meeting in March. That was

659
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,559
our first inkling that this was an

660
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,400
official thing coming forward at which

661
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,720
point we felt like Maida was going

662
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,480
forward with or without us at that point

663
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,919
to some level which is where we

664
00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:29,279
consulted with attorneys and they said

665
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:30,480
the best thing you can do is to protect

666
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,600
your county as best as possible and uh

667
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,360
we again wanted to gather more

668
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:36,320
information. We wanted to put

669
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,000
protections in place if it if this was

670
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,279
to go forward. And so we did just that.

671
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:44,080
We actually um had a meeting on the on

672
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,520
the 22nd which we just approved the

673
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,120
minutes for which we had I think 16 17

674
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:50,880
people come and give public comment and

675
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,880
actually speak about the project and

676
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,799
about the land sale. A lot of them were

677
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:56,000
land owners. Some of them were people

678
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000
who lived adjacent to that property that

679
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,120
were concerned about things. And we

680
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,720
heard from many of those people and

681
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,880
appreciated the comments they made and

682
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,799
wanted to get more information. So, we

683
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:06,480
again scheduled another meeting to get

684
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,760
protections in place. Um, that was going

685
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,159
to be scheduled on the 24th of April and

686
00:28:12,159 --> 00:28:13,520
the protections weren't there. We didn't

687
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,960
feel like we had enough to go forward to

688
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,080
the commission meeting that night. It

689
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,159
was canceled. I was rescheduled for the

690
00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:20,480
Monday following. That Monday, we came

691
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,480
in, there was an agreement presented to

692
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,919
us, but it wasn't we didn't have a lot

693
00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:25,520
of time to go over it. And people who

694
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,720
were in attendance that day at that

695
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,720
Monday meeting, we didn't get all the

696
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,080
answers we needed as a commission that

697
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,480
day. And so then we tabled the meeting

698
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,480
for another week and I will tell you

699
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,480
that there were a lot of people who were

700
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,159
not just citizens. We wanted more

701
00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:39,440
information from our citizens. We wanted

702
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,120
to hear more from them. Gave us a week

703
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,960
to gather more information, more data

704
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,039
that was as Commissioner Bingham alluded

705
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:47,679
to, but we needed answers as well from

706
00:28:47,679 --> 00:28:50,080
the scient from different components to

707
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,440
get answers to some of those questions

708
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,159
about water, about what we could do as

709
00:28:54,159 --> 00:28:55,840
far as air quality, things like that. We

710
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,600
needed to have those questions answered.

711
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,120
That's what Monday's meeting led us to

712
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,120
on the 4th was to hear from those

713
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,240
experts um to answer the questions that

714
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,360
have been asked. I applaud the um the

715
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,520
efforts that have gone into getting

716
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,679
correct information out and I appreciate

717
00:29:11,679 --> 00:29:13,679
the fact that our staff has worked

718
00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:17,600
diligently to answer I think roughly

719
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,840
been roughly 86 prominent questions that

720
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,000
were asked by our citizens and it's on

721
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,159
our web page now and there are answers

722
00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:26,399
to those 86 questions as best as we can

723
00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:28,480
answer them at this point. Um some of

724
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,039
the questions we still have questions

725
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:33,760
about. We want to get those answers. Uh

726
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,880
I'll just tell you that we were told

727
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,000
indirectly or directly that uh if an

728
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,600
action wasn't taken on the fourth um it

729
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,360
was highly likely this project was going

730
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,679
forward either way and we would have no

731
00:29:47,679 --> 00:29:49,120
protections. We would have no guarantees

732
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,200
as a county.

733
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,919
And so we obviously made the choice. We

734
00:29:53,919 --> 00:29:56,880
made in an effort in our belief or my

735
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,720
belief was to protect our county's best

736
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,320
interest to protect the taxpayers of

737
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,480
this county so that they would not be um

738
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,480
left without any protections and that

739
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,559
this center could be forced down our

740
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:10,320
throat without any protections in place

741
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,440
without any guarantees as a county. Um

742
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,520
so but I did want that information to

743
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,960
come out at that meeting on the 4th.

744
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,039
That was our our goal in intent. We

745
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:20,559
tried to get that information out. there

746
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,720
was um some of that information didn't

747
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,640
come across. People didn't get to hear

748
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,159
as many of the answers as we would have

749
00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:27,840
liked that night from some of the

750
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,679
experts that were there. We've since

751
00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:31,039
published that. We published this

752
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:33,039
timeline. It's all on our website at

753
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:34,320
this point and we will continue to

754
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,240
publish and be as transparent about

755
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,240
everything that we're aware of and give

756
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,919
it to the public as quickly and as

757
00:30:39,919 --> 00:30:42,080
efficiently as we possibly can. And

758
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,600
we're providing that put that out there.

759
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,360
I just want to make the public aware of

760
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,440
that and we're looking forward to to

761
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,960
hearing the public input to this

762
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960
commission meeting which we do at every

763
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,320
regularly scheduled commission meeting

764
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,399
where we do allow public comment. So

765
00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:56,480
that's all I have to say.

766
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,919
>> Thank you commissioners. I appreciate

767
00:30:57,919 --> 00:31:00,080
that. One of the things that's being

768
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,799
said um that I'd just like to clarify is

769
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:04,159
that we are being bought off. That's

770
00:31:04,159 --> 00:31:08,880
absolutely untrue. Secondly um we our

771
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,360
citizens need to know that we care. I

772
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,520
mean, when they when we first met with

773
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,200
them, they want us to make a decision

774
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,240
right now. And we've tabled this several

775
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,039
times so that we could gain information.

776
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,279
Um, the three of us have spent an

777
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:26,159
extensive amount of time studying and

778
00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:28,720
trying to understand this and put guard

779
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,360
rails in, do those things that were will

780
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,679
protect our county. We care about our

781
00:31:33,679 --> 00:31:37,440
county and uh we have things on our our

782
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,679
web page now with the county. please get

783
00:31:39,679 --> 00:31:41,760
up and and get in there and and read

784
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,480
into that and study about that. Um I've

785
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,039
talked to several citizens that have

786
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,200
actually emailed me. I've I've visited

787
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,240
with them. Um we had Commissioner Prair

788
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,120
I believe uh made the comment about the

789
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,399
amount of emails that we've got. 3,500

790
00:31:58,399 --> 00:32:02,640
um about 268 or so of those are citizens

791
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,919
of Boxelder County. um those people that

792
00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:08,720
come to disrupt our meeting last week,

793
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,880
um those protesters got what they

794
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,600
wanted. They came and they disrupted to

795
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,640
where we were not able to be able to get

796
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,000
the information out to our citizens. And

797
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,080
so we want you to know that we do care

798
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,240
about you. We care about Boxelder

799
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,480
County. That's why we ran and that's why

800
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200
we're in office and we care about our

801
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,799
county and going forward. So again, we

802
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:34,640
appreciate you. Um, one of the things

803
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,159
that was said in the meeting that I

804
00:32:36,159 --> 00:32:38,880
thought was interesting was that we

805
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,320
broke the law because we didn't have

806
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,519
public uh comment. Public comment is we

807
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,120
don't that's we're not breaking the law

808
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,120
by not allowing that. We allow that

809
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,200
because we care about our citizens and

810
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,440
we want to hear what you have to say.

811
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,919
And so, uh, those of you that have sent

812
00:32:53,919 --> 00:32:56,960
emails and and, uh, we appreciate our

813
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,600
staff and our attorney's office for

814
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,679
helping to provide answers and helping

815
00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:04,320
with the amount of of emails that we've

816
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,440
that have come in and filled those. Um,

817
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,399
we appreciate them and and and uh, we

818
00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:11,760
appreciate the comments that have been

819
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,640
given.

820
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,360
So, at this time, um, we will have our

821
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,080
public comment period. Those wishing to

822
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,919
make making make public comment shall uh

823
00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:26,000
sign the comment role and be responsible

824
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,320
of the following rules in the county

825
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,240
commission rules and procedures.

826
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,880
Speakers will have one threeinut

827
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,480
opportunity to speak regardless of the

828
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,640
number of items they wish to address.

829
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,960
Speakers shall address their comments to

830
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,120
the county commission only. This is a

831
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,360
time to be heard. There will not be back

832
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,159
and forth dial dialogue with the

833
00:33:46,159 --> 00:33:48,880
commissioners. Speakers may file copies

834
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,279
of their remarks or supporting

835
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,440
information to the county clerk. The

836
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,279
county clerk will make the information

837
00:33:55,279 --> 00:34:01,760
available to the county commission. And we have got a few here to go over.

838
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:08,950
So we will start with Diana Hardy first.

839
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,599
Could you please state your name uh when

840
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:16,470
you come up please?

841
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,119
Diana Hardy. Um, the Boxeller Committee

842
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:20,879
for Liberty is disappointed in your

843
00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:22,879
decision to support the AI data center

844
00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:25,679
in Boxella County, but not surprised,

845
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,760
for this is the agenda to destroy our

846
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,440
constitutions and the liberties of the

847
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,000
people. Representatives past and present

848
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,159
have helped to ignore and subvert our US

849
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,079
and state constitutions by betraying

850
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,320
their oath of office. We are also

851
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,839
disappointed that you did not give the

852
00:34:39,839 --> 00:34:41,280
people the first amendment right to have

853
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,879
a public comment hearing during your

854
00:34:42,879 --> 00:34:44,240
meeting at the Barceloa County

855
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:46,720
Fairgrounds. It is the mark of a tyrant

856
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:48,960
who subdued the freedom of speech.

857
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,359
Governor Cox is fast-tracking this AI

858
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:52,879
data center against the will of the

859
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:55,359
people. Remember, he wants Utah to be

860
00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:57,520
the first smart city state. And these

861
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,800
data centers are part of the

862
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,119
infrastructure to surveillance, monitor,

863
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:03,359
and control the people along with the

864
00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:05,440
implementation of broadband from border

865
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,160
to border, smartphones, smart meters,

866
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,960
block cameras, etc. His family owned

867
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,880
Centriccom and sold it, but his father

868
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,200
is still on the board of the new owners.

869
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,960
He has a heavily invested interest in

870
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,520
this monstrosity of a data center at the

871
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,000
people's expense. The AI data center

872
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,520
violates our Fourth Amendment by

873
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,359
collecting our data, which is an

874
00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:28,000
invasion of privacy. These centers use a

875
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,160
great amount of our resources. Utah is

876
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,240
the second driest state in the country.

877
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,720
Water is not abundant. This center will

878
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:36,320
use twice as much power as the whole

879
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,240
state of Utah and this will cause

880
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,160
utilities to increase because of supply

881
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,640
and demand thereby adding heavier

882
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,280
burdens on the people. Billionaire Mr.

883
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,760
Kevin Olirri from Canada is seeking tax

884
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,240
exemptions for the people to subsidize

885
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:53,040
this AI data center development. He is

886
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,880
worried that China is so far ahead of

887
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,320
the US and he is correct. China is ahead

888
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,480
of the US in surveillance, monitoring

889
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,200
and controlling the people. Our our

890
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,880
representatives are betraying the free

891
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,960
market by allowing interlocal agreements

892
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,440
with certain businesses which creates an

893
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,000
unfair playing field with businesses.

894
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,760
The government is picking winners and

895
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,480
losers in businesses. Government is not

896
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,839
to enter into public private

897
00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:19,680
partnerships because it violates article

898
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,160
12 section 20 of the Utah Constitution.

899
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,720
The free market provision. Our republic

900
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,400
form of government is founded on the

901
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,720
free market system that continually is

902
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,560
being betrayed. Since our

903
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,160
representatives are not listening to the

904
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,240
voice of the people, it is up to the

905
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:37,599
people to starve the beast, the AI data

906
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,320
centers, by choosing not to use the data

907
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,960
collecting devices. The question is,

908
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,560
will the people help to choose to shut

909
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,960
it down by turning away from the data

910
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,040
collecting devices? In the book of

911
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,800
Revelations, it speaks about the mark of

912
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,720
the beast that we will not be able to

913
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:54,720
buy or sell if we do not have the mark

914
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:57,280
of the beast. Is this the device that we

915
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,000
hold in the palm of our hand, our phone?

916
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,960
Thank you.

917
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,560
>> Okay, very good. Uh, Tanel Tagger Tag

918
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:15,109
Tagger.

919
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:18,640
» Hi, commissioners. I am here to um speak

920
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,760
against the Stratos Stata Center,

921
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,240
>> Talil Tagert.

922
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:25,760
Um,

923
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,359
I know you already know all of these

924
00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:30,560
things. I mean, it's it's going to cause

925
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,960
immense problem to the whole state, not

926
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,040
just to Boxelder County. And I hope

927
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,560
you're taking that into consideration.

928
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,520
We are in a severe drought in a desert.

929
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,440
And I don't know why we're um going to

930
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,839
bring something in that's going to use

931
00:37:43,839 --> 00:37:50,720
up all our water and heat the area around it. Like, we are going

932
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,320
to burn up. We're not going to be able

933
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,280
to live. Um, I really hope you will

934
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,200
reconsider this. I know you mentioned

935
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,480
earlier you don't want to put someone

936
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,240
out of a house. That's what you're doing

937
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,720
with all of this. So, it's a really big

938
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,920
deal and we are mad. We are not going to

939
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,160
forget about this.

940
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,680
It will come back to haunt you if you

941
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,839
just keep going forward with it. Please

942
00:38:11,839 --> 00:38:17,750
reconsider the decision. Thank you,

943
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:26,790
» Walter Masterson.

944
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,240
Hey, my name is Walter Masterson. I'm

945
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:33,440
here to speak about the data center. I

946
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,480
know people are very upset about Kevin

947
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,560
Olir's new data center that will go

948
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,760
right in the middle of Fox County, Utah.

949
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,320
So, I have proposed an alternative

950
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,400
location.

951
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,880
Utah residents don't really like data

952
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,280
centers. You know who loves data

953
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,560
centers? Kevin Olirri.

954
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,960
You know where Kevin Olir lives? Miami

955
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,440
Beach. So, uh, I looked into it and the

956
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,800
people of Miami Beach love data centers.

957
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,200
Uh, let me, you don't believe me? Let me

958
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,040
just list some of the local residents.

959
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,440
Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Ken

960
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,480
Griffin, Peter Teal, Larry Page, Sergey

961
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,800
Brin, Ivanka Trump and her beard, Jared

962
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,359
Kushner. These people love data centers.

963
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,520
And that's just Miami Beach. I mean, if

964
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,320
you go up further on Palm Beach, you got

965
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,720
the CEO of Oracle, Larry Ellison, you

966
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:31,760
got Mara Lago, huge fans of data

967
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,920
centers. So, I can't, you know, all

968
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,560
these people that I just listed keep

969
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,400
saying how we need to build more data

970
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,240
centers so we can compete with China.

971
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:47,119
So, I cannot think of bigger fans for

972
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:49,520
data centers than these true American

973
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,440
patriots that I just listed.

974
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,200
Washington DC, San Francisco, Miami,

975
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,839
Atlanta, St. Louis, Pittsburgh,

976
00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:01,359
Minneapolis,

977
00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:04,240
all of those cities I just mentioned are

978
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:09,280
smaller than Kevin Oolir's data center.

979
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,599
Kevin Ol's data center project for

980
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:13,599
Utah's called it's called project

981
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:18,480
stratos it will be 64 square miles.

982
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,560
Kevin Olirri says oh don't worry we

983
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,560
won't be taking power from the grid and

984
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,440
he's right because the data center is

985
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,599
going to plug into the ruby gas

986
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:31,040
pipeline. It's going to burn methane to

987
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,359
meet its projected 9 gawatts of

988
00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:35,440
electricity

989
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,079
every year. which means it's going to

990
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:40,800
release over 50 metric tons of nitric

991
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,599
oxide into Box County every year. The

992
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:47,520
smog from Project Stratos will rival Los

993
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,839
Angeles County

994
00:40:49,839 --> 00:40:52,079
except Los Angeles is a city of 9

995
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:55,599
million people and Fox County uh 60,000

996
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:57,280
people.

997
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,400
So that being said, I am making a

998
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,000
proposal to relocate this data center to

999
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,880
Miami Beach. Kevin Oly loves data

1000
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,480
centers. Put it in his backyard.

1001
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,510
>> Thank you.

1002
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:24,710
» Sam Prren,

1003
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:26,960
I'm gonna be speaking about uh Stratos.

1004
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,800
Uh

1005
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,040
just something real quick. Uh, I feel

1006
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,720
disappointed in our local government's

1007
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:34,640
representation regarding the Stratos

1008
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,960
project. Um, it's disappointing to see

1009
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,800
how little consideration was put into

1010
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,240
something that will have impact for

1011
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:43,200
generations. Um, this issue has serious

1012
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,200
implications on all levels, locally,

1013
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,599
statewide, nationally, and globally.

1014
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:49,440
Environmental and pollution are concerns

1015
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,160
at the local level. Statewide water is a

1016
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,359
major concern and it's to accommodate AI

1017
00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:57,200
that will will surveil the American

1018
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,880
public and support a war that is

1019
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,200
currently 58% American disapprove. Um

1020
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,640
lastly, I'm disappointed that the

1021
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,800
corporate billionaires were chosen over

1022
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,160
our county and uh people that live here.

1023
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,079
So, um I know I just

1024
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:16,640
wish we can do what we can.

1025
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:24,470
>> Thank you.

1026
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,800
Julie uh Quim Qualand

1027
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:55,990
>> Quinnland. There you go.

1028
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,640
Mr. Vincent,

1029
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,040
at the meeting in Tremont,

1030
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,880
you did not give an accounting of how

1031
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,040
many messages that you received that

1032
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,280
were for and how many messages were

1033
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,880
against the data center. You simply read

1034
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,920
one letter and said there are people who

1035
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,800
want this and read a letter that not

1036
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,720
only uh was

1037
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:22,319
compassionate towards you as

1038
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:24,079
commissioners like oh you poor people

1039
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:26,319
will have to make this decision which is

1040
00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:29,599
true but to only read one letter and not

1041
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:32,560
even give an accounting was really rude.

1042
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,240
And then to have um Commissioner Bingham

1043
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,200
yell at the protesters and tell them to

1044
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,920
grow up. You know how women got the

1045
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,040
vote? We protested.

1046
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,319
It was our right and our constitutional

1047
00:43:48,319 --> 00:43:51,920
right to protest and to treat us like we

1048
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,160
were less than was your immaturity. I

1049
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,520
believe that. Anyway, I think it would

1050
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,119
have been better for you to treat us a

1051
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:02,880
little better yourself. You should have

1052
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,560
backed up and had more meetings with the

1053
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,640
people were upset because they couldn't

1054
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,240
share. We found out the Sunday before

1055
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:14,800
your second meeting. You kind of snuck

1056
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,160
your your meeting in with uh comments,

1057
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,680
you know, before anybody even knew what

1058
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,280
was going on, unless they lived out

1059
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,599
there with the land that was being

1060
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:25,920
impacted. Now, there's one thing that

1061
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,359
people aren't talking about,

1062
00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:32,079
and that is a whole bunch of people,

1063
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:35,040
including Sam Alman, Mark Zuckerberg,

1064
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,440
Jeff Bezos, Michael Bur. Now, if you

1065
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,240
don't know who Michael Bur is, watch the

1066
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:45,359
movie um the big um

1067
00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:46,960
what's the name of that movie?

1068
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,040
>> The big short. Thank you. because this

1069
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,040
and a lot of people are saying this

1070
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,319
could be a bubble and that we are

1071
00:44:56,319 --> 00:45:00,640
investing in AI way faster than it may

1072
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,359
be um used and we've had several in fact

1073
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:08,319
this Michael Bur he's the one that saw

1074
00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:10,319
the home bubble coming on there was the

1075
00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:12,880
subprime mortgage problem and nobody

1076
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,800
believed him he said this is a bubble

1077
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,119
it's going to it's going to burst and he

1078
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:19,119
was absolutely right and hurt a lot of

1079
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,359
people. Now, my husband and I, we lived

1080
00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:23,359
in Silicon Valley and we lived through

1081
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:27,760
the dotcom bust. We were there. Uh he

1082
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,520
lost his job. He was unemployed for a

1083
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,119
year and a half. So, if we think we're

1084
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:33,280
going to have great jobs come, if this

1085
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,400
bural this bubble burst, the data

1086
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,480
centers in Virginia are going to keep

1087
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,319
running. Ours isn't going to run. We're

1088
00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:42,319
too far away from everybody. Nobody's

1089
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:43,520
going to want to be out in the middle of

1090
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,400
nowhere. And besides

1091
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,119
this is generational.

1092
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:50,960
This doesn't just affect Boxelder

1093
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,720
County.

1094
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:56,079
This dust from the Great Salt Lake that

1095
00:45:56,079 --> 00:46:01,760
should be on life support. We should be taking out grass. We should

1096
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,440
be saving water the way the city of

1097
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,760
Sandy is doing. And we should be saving

1098
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,920
that big lake because we get fresh water

1099
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,440
from it in the lake effect. And we also

1100
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,720
um that dust that

1101
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:18,079
>> Okay, your time is up.

1102
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:20,960
>> Thank you.

1103
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:31,109
>> Warren McGregor.

1104
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:32,880
» Hi, commissioners. My name is Warren and

1105
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,240
I can't believe I have to say this, but

1106
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:37,040
I am a Utah taxpaying citizen. Uh

1107
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,599
contrary to what Mr. Olirri is trying to

1108
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:42,319
spread. Uh, and I don't even know where

1109
00:46:42,319 --> 00:46:44,480
to begin. For starters, why are we

1110
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,880
starting a public meeting with a prayer,

1111
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,079
with a Mormon prayer? Are you or you

1112
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,079
pray that we could be kind and cordial?

1113
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,079
There's nothing kind or cordial about

1114
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:56,880
what you're doing to us today. I I came

1115
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,800
straight here from work in Cash Valley

1116
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,680
and it was 22 degrees above the average

1117
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,599
for this time of year. And you want to

1118
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:06,640
drop 23 Hiroshima bombs worth of heat

1119
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,640
daily into the state? That will that's a

1120
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,520
crisis, right? We are already in a

1121
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,800
drought. You tell us to shorten our

1122
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,040
showers and not water our lawns, but

1123
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:22,400
you're approving one of the largest data centers in the country.

1124
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,880
Like people are going to die and you

1125
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,599
need to listen to the people. We do not

1126
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:30,560
want this. Nobody here wants this in our

1127
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,599
state. And if it goes through, you say

1128
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:36,000
that you want to add guard rails. You

1129
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,920
say that uh it was going to go through

1130
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,520
anyway, but the fact of the matter is if

1131
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,119
it was going to go through anyway, you

1132
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:45,119
should have just voted no. Show the

1133
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:47,520
people that we have a voice in local

1134
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,760
government. Instead, you just rolled

1135
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,520
over and let it go through. And

1136
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,680
people of Utah are upset. And I hope you

1137
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,520
update your resumes because I see your

1138
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,079
campaign posters every day. None of you

1139
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:02,079
are going to be in office ever again.

1140
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:06,790
Thank you.

1141
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:19,829
Tiffany Larson.

1142
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:21,680
» First, I would like to say that I can

1143
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,280
only imagine the immense pressure you

1144
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,520
guys have been under. Not only from the

1145
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,119
community that trusted you to have their

1146
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:28,559
best interests at heart and voted you

1147
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:30,319
in, but from those in higher positions

1148
00:48:30,319 --> 00:48:32,880
of power. I have grown up in Utah from

1149
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,720
the BYU football fields when my dad was

1150
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:36,240
a graduate assistant under Lavell

1151
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:38,319
Edwards to graduating from Muggen High

1152
00:48:38,319 --> 00:48:40,480
in 2006 and I now raised my 5-year-old

1153
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,640
daughter in Eagle Mountain, Utah. When I

1154
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,000
heard about the passing of the data

1155
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,160
center, I was immediately enraged. While

1156
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,000
I'm not a Boxelder County resident, I am

1157
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,599
a resident of Utah and this reckless

1158
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:51,200
decision will not only affect the county

1159
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,280
you were trusted to steward and protect,

1160
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,640
it will affect the rest of this great

1161
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,880
state and eventually the country. Many

1162
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,400
counties across the nation are listening

1163
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,920
to their constituents regardless of the

1164
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,079
immense pressure coming from above them.

1165
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:03,839
Harry S. Truman said, "America was not

1166
00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:05,520
built on fear. America was built on

1167
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,079
courage and on imagination and an

1168
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:10,079
unbeatable determination to do the job

1169
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:11,920
at hand." Mark Twain said, "In the

1170
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,520
beginning of a change, the patriot is a

1171
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,520
scarce man and brave and hated and

1172
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,440
scorned. When his cause succeeds, the

1173
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,200
timid join him for then it costs nothing

1174
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,440
to be a patriot." And finally, Thomas

1175
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,800
Jefferson said, "What country can

1176
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,480
preserve its liberties if its rulers are

1177
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,400
not warned from time to time that their

1178
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,599
people preserve the spirit of

1179
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:30,000
resistance? Let them take arms." You

1180
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,599
guys have the opportunity to stand as

1181
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:33,119
our forefathers did for the rights and

1182
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:34,720
liberties of not only your constituents,

1183
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,240
but the rest of us that love this

1184
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:38,559
beautiful state God bless us with. True

1185
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:40,160
courage isn't found in times of ease.

1186
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,920
True courage shines in the face of great

1187
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,920
adversity. And like a mirror, it will

1188
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,920
show you your true character, integrity,

1189
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,160
leadership, and patriotism.

1190
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,880
Doing the right thing is never easy,

1191
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,160
especially on something of this

1192
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,319
magnitude of this magnitude. But if our

1193
00:49:54,319 --> 00:49:56,400
forefathers just laid down and took the

1194
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,720
tax increase because it was the law and

1195
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:00,640
the pressure was too much or too scary,

1196
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,559
we wouldn't be Americans. We wouldn't be

1197
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:04,000
Utons and you wouldn't have the

1198
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,680
opportunity to be the commissioners of

1199
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,160
the area you claim to love. If you truly

1200
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,839
love this city and state, prove it and

1201
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:12,079
don't roll over so easy. Fight because

1202
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:14,480
this is the moment, your moment, because

1203
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,400
this is what you will remember for. This

1204
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:23,349
will be your legacy. Coward or patriot?

1205
00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:33,270
» Julia Hubard.

1206
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,359
» Say good evening, but it's not one. Um,

1207
00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:38,960
I'm confused because I think you guys

1208
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,359
all think that this is going to be fine.

1209
00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:44,079
Um, and it's not. We can read project

1210
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:46,960
2025 and we know what this data center

1211
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,960
is for. It's for them to test out

1212
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,240
surveillance on us. And it's also for

1213
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,079
them to ruin the state and then sell it

1214
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:57,280
for parts. That's unacceptable.

1215
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,839
And we're not okay. We're not going to

1216
00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:01,280
be okay.

1217
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,280
>> So, if you think that this is going to

1218
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,960
go through and you're all just going to

1219
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,440
be just fine, not only are the people of

1220
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,200
Utah not going to be fine, but you're

1221
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:16,230
not either.

1222
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:28,230
Fred Hayes.

1223
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:32,000
» Hi. Uh Fred Hayes, Bear River Precinct.

1224
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,200
Um I'm um

1225
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,160
appreciate the the work that the

1226
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:44,160
commission has done and um I would like to say that I don't

1227
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,240
think that this

1228
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:49,920
uh project or others to come. This is

1229
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,640
just one in a a line of projects

1230
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,920
starting with the uh the inland port

1231
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,400
that has been in place been put in place

1232
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,440
by the Utah legislature. Now, if the

1233
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,680
eyeire of the people should be directed

1234
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,000
in the right direction,

1235
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,880
it would be to investigate the election

1236
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,800
system. Uh, I happen to have been there

1237
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,880
at the moment that the Lord

1238
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,520
handed

1239
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,119
the data on the Utah voter registration

1240
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:26,800
system

1241
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:33,030
and it we discovered that there are 373

1242
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,559
illegitimate phantoms in the Vista

1243
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:38,480
system

1244
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,920
and it's mathematically provable. So,

1245
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,520
our Utah registration system is hacked.

1246
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,040
Now, if this if that was a bank,

1247
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,119
that that registration system would be

1248
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:52,880
quarantined and shut down and

1249
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,119
investigated.

1250
00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:58,720
And so, the the eye of the people should

1251
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:06,240
be directed toward 20 years of elections that have not been

1252
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:09,520
witnessed by hand counts and and

1253
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,520
eyeballs.

1254
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,270
And

1255
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,160
as an engineer, I worked up almost 30

1256
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,960
years as a chemical engineer

1257
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,880
daily using data interpreting it for

1258
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,440
conditions of normaly and and and

1259
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,839
using it to guide control systems and

1260
00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:34,720
everything. I can see it's simple that

1261
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:37,359
the electronic election system is

1262
00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:39,119
vulnerable

1263
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:41,680
and it's vulnerable in software. It's v

1264
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,839
vulnerable in hardware. It's vulnerable

1265
00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:47,040
in communications. So now in Utah we

1266
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,760
have it proven and this is this is from

1267
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,240
a PhD mathematician in New York who

1268
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:54,640
reviewed this data. The Tilla County

1269
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,800
voter registration database was

1270
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,839
deliberately falsified falsified by

1271
00:53:59,839 --> 00:54:02,400
purpose-written software. That is not an

1272
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,040
inference. It is a mathematical proof.

1273
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,119
This commission should be taking a stand

1274
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:13,200
for handcounted paper ballots and the

1275
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,920
people of Utah should wake up. You

1276
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,960
cannot vote with electronics and expect

1277
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,599
to have legislators

1278
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:26,960
preparing legislation that doesn't put

1279
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,960
vested interests in power. So, how's my

1280
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,160
time?

1281
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,920
>> You're three minute or three seconds

1282
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,240
left.

1283
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:40,710
>> Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

1284
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,319
Okay.

1285
00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:47,359
We appreciate your comments. Um,

1286
00:54:47,359 --> 00:55:04,390
let me do the warrant register.

1287
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,839
Commissioners, while you do that, I will

1288
00:55:05,839 --> 00:55:07,680
just put on the record that we no longer

1289
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,359
needed the close session for the

1290
00:55:09,359 --> 00:55:11,119
character and professional competence of

1291
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:13,440
an individual. So we can remove that

1292
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,119
from the agenda.

1293
00:55:15,119 --> 00:56:13,589
>> Thank you.

1294
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:19,349
That's the ingredient

1295
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:43,750
for the trail.

1296
00:56:43,760 --> 00:57:37,589
We need

1297
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:43,829
So

1298
00:57:43,839 --> 00:58:04,950
Come on.

1299
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:41,990
This is awesome.

1300
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:50,470
Ready

1301
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,000
for a final motion?

1302
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:54,880
>> I am.

1303
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,119
>> I would make a motion to adjurnn.

1304
00:58:57,119 --> 00:58:57,760
>> Second.

1305
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,680
>> We have a motion tojourn by Commissioner

1306
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,200
Perry and a second by Commissioner

1307
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,359
Bingham. All in favor say I. I.

1308
00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:05,599
We're

1309
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:09,750
>> adjourned.

1310
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:35,750
Awesome.

1311
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:52,309
Right.

1312
00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:55,319
Bye.