[0:00] Good. Okay. Um, court got out late today
[0:04] and so,
[0:05] uh, being the the time that it is, we
[0:08] don't want to waste anybody's time.
[0:09] Generally, we take a break in between
[0:11] and we won't today. We'll go right into
[0:13] our, um, commission meeting. So, um, the
[0:16] invocation will be given by myself after
[0:19] which uh, Corey Wild will give our uh,
[0:23] pledge of allegiance.
[0:27] Our heavenly fathers, we bow before thee
[0:29] this day. We are grateful for thy many
[0:30] blessings. Father, we are so thankful
[0:32] for the many blessings that thou bestows
[0:34] upon us each and every day. For the
[0:36] freedoms we enjoy in this country, the
[0:37] opportunity which you have to live here.
[0:39] Father in heaven, we are so grateful for
[0:41] our military and for our emergency
[0:44] services and for our police that protect
[0:46] us and keep us safe. Father in heaven,
[0:49] we're thankful, Father in heaven, for um
[0:52] all that thou provides. We ask that they
[0:54] might continue to bless us, Father, with moisture and help us to continue to live here and to enjoy being around
[1:03] one another. That we might be kind and understanding to those our neighbors
[1:07] and those who are around us. Father in
[1:09] heaven, we would ask at this time for a
[1:11] special blessing to be upon us here that
[1:13] as things are discussed this day that
[1:15] we'll be cordial and kind that we will
[1:18] uh sit back and and try to understand
[1:20] those things are being presented. Father
[1:22] in heaven, we love thee and appreciate
[1:24] thee. We ask that thee might please
[1:26] bless everybody in this room this day as
[1:28] uh they are here and also as they travel
[1:30] that they will be watched over and kept
[1:32] safe. We're thankful, Father in heaven,
[1:34] for thee and for thy son. And we say his
[1:36] name of thy son Jesus Christ. Amen.
[1:47] To the flag of the United States of
[1:49] America and to the republic for it
[1:53] stands one nation
[1:56] indivisible with liberty and justice for
[2:00] all.
[2:05] » All right. Thank you, Corey. We
[2:08] appreciate that. Um,
[2:12] >> so I have uh reviewed the minutes and
[2:15] make a motion to approve the minutes
[2:17] from April April 22nd, 2026.
[2:20] >> I'll second it.
[2:20] >> We have a motion to approve the minutes
[2:22] by Commissioner Bingham and a second by
[2:24] Commissioner Perry. There's no further
[2:27] discussion. All in favor say I.
[2:29] >> I. Motion passes.
[2:32] >> Okay. Administrative review, reports,
[2:35] and future agenda items. Commissioner
[2:36] Bingham,
[2:38] >> I have nothing to add today.
[2:39] >> Commissioner Perry,
[2:40] >> nothing.
[2:42] >> And I have nothing as well.
[2:45] Uh, former agenda items. Commissioner
[2:47] Bingham,
[2:48] >> nothing.
[2:49] >> Commissioner Perry,
[2:50] >> no.
[2:50] >> And I have nothing as well. Emergency
[2:53] management.
[2:55] >> Emergency manager is probably out
[2:56] dealing with the windstorm.
[2:57] >> Okay.
[2:59] Um
[3:00] Charlene ARPA or LT LT LTCF
[3:07] nothing. Okay.
[3:11] Commissioners agreement
[3:14] um number 2620
[3:16] uh for use of private property as
[3:18] firearm shooting range and Al Smart uh
[3:22] can you come up and just kind of visit
[3:24] with us a little bit about that. Al
[3:25] appreciate you being here.
[3:40] That's great, Al.
[3:43] Just perfect.
[3:45] Got to get closer to the mic.
[3:47] >> Hey, Al, can we get you a little closer
[3:48] to the mic there?
[3:56] Oh, Mike's working it here instead.
[4:23] Okay. We'd like to renew the lease on
[4:26] the Tmont and Bothwell range.
[4:31] » Okay.
[4:33] Did you I do you have any information as
[4:35] far as um I know in the past
[4:38] um you you provided and I've read the lease agreement right now you're
[4:41] basically saying if we allow the
[4:44] wildlife federation to use that range
[4:46] which is ours that you'll allow the the
[4:48] deputies and the officers in the county
[4:50] use the other range in Manowway which is
[4:51] yours. Is that correct?
[4:52] >> Yes, we will. Okay.
[4:54] >> All active duty law enforcement and
[4:56] military are granted a freebie to the
[4:59] range. Anybody in here
[5:03] Okay.
[5:04] >> Should have cards.
[5:06] >> Perfect.
[5:08] And from what I've been told, it's
[5:10] having you guys be at that range has
[5:11] helped uh keep some of the vandalism
[5:13] down. Is that
[5:14] >> Yes.
[5:15] >> Okay. We appreciate that.
[5:18] >> The county sheriff popped up last time
[5:19] when we came to one of these meetings
[5:22] when we got it established. He said
[5:24] vandalism have gone down 92% in the
[5:27] county with firearms since we opened
[5:30] that range.
[5:32] Fantastic.
[5:33] >> Commissioners,
[5:34] >> yes.
[5:34] >> Just to let you know, there is um in the
[5:37] contract, we changed it to a five-year
[5:39] contract from a four-year contract at
[5:41] Mr. Smart's request. Um we also left the
[5:45] liability requirement at 2 million on
[5:47] the insurance policy. Um the state does
[5:50] require the county to cover up to three
[5:52] million on liability. Um, and so what
[5:56] that would do is if um the federation
[5:58] covers their policy for the two million
[6:00] if there happened to be an incident,
[6:02] just so you're aware, that would put
[6:04] some liability onto the county for that
[6:06] extra million.
[6:08] >> But all law enforcement officers are
[6:10] insured for $5 million.
[6:12] >> Okay. Okay. Very good. If there's no
[6:15] further discussion, I'll entertain a
[6:17] motion.
[6:20] I would make a motion that we approve
[6:22] agreement 2620 for the use of property
[6:25] as firearm as firearm shooting range as
[6:28] explained and presented to us.
[6:30] >> Second.
[6:31] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry
[6:34] to approve 2620 for use of property as
[6:38] firearm shooting range by Al Smart and a
[6:41] second by Commissioner Bingham. If
[6:43] there's no further discussion, all in
[6:45] favor say I.
[6:46] >> I. I.
[6:47] >> Motion passes. Thanks Al. Appreciate it.
[6:53] » Okay. Uh review and decision on the U.
[6:57] State aid agreement 2619 for the
[7:00] historic orchard pathway. Um and Scott
[7:04] Lions is going to come and just present
[7:05] that to us.
[7:08] Appreciate being here, Scott.
[7:15] » All right.
[7:16] Not very loud. Scott Lions, Community
[7:19] Development Department. Uh so this is
[7:21] the state aid agreement for the historic
[7:23] orchard pathway. This is a uh multi-use
[7:28] non-motorized pathway that would extend
[7:30] from, if you're familiar with the it's
[7:33] already constructed from 800 north to
[7:36] the north border of Willard City. They
[7:38] constructed that portion and then Perry
[7:41] City has taken it from there. They're
[7:44] not quite to Walmart, but almost. It's
[7:46] under construction the further north you
[7:48] go. Uh this is uh an agreement between
[7:53] UD do and Willard City and Boxelder
[7:56] County to complete from 800 South where
[7:59] it ends uh in Willard City um down to
[8:04] I forget the south 8700 South in the
[8:07] county. So that's down where the like
[8:10] Chevron is, Hot Springs, Mobile Home
[8:12] Park, that area. Um
[8:15] anyway, so this this basically clarifies
[8:19] the county's responsibility in that uh
[8:23] and the Willard City's responsibility in
[8:25] that and UD do's responsibility in that.
[8:28] Uh the county and Willard City are
[8:32] combining to contribute a 20% match. Uh
[8:35] UD do is coming up with the 80% match. U
[8:39] DOT is actual cash the county and
[8:41] Willard city is a soft match meaning
[8:44] Willard City is the the value of the
[8:47] ride ofway that they're contributing for
[8:49] the trail is going into that and then
[8:51] the value the county has an easement uh
[8:54] across UTA property and the value of
[8:57] that easement uh is going towards that.
[9:00] So that's our soft match. No cash from
[9:02] the county. Willard city soft match is
[9:05] again right ofway and then uh you UD do
[9:08] comes up with the actual cash to
[9:10] complete the project.
[9:12] >> So is this in progress Scott or is this
[9:16] projected going forward till when?
[9:18] >> No, this this would give us kind of
[9:21] green light the funding so that we could
[9:23] begin the final design and construction
[9:25] of the project.
[9:27] >> How long does it anticipate for it to
[9:28] actually come to fruition?
[9:31] >> Uh that's a great question. Well, that's
[9:34] uh Jones and Associates is our engineer.
[9:36] They'll be the ones they also are the
[9:38] engineering firm for Willard City and
[9:40] likely will be ultimately assigned as
[9:43] the project manager. So, we'll see when
[9:45] we sit down with them um and get into
[9:48] the design phase what the time timeline
[9:51] looks like.
[9:53] >> So, thank you.
[9:59] » Okay. I'd entertain a motion. I would
[10:01] make a motion that we approve
[10:04] um decision on the U dot state aid
[10:06] agreement 2619 for the historic orchard
[10:08] pathway as explained by Scott Lions.
[10:11] >> Second.
[10:12] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry
[10:14] to approve the U. State aid agreement
[10:16] number 2619 for the historic Orchard
[10:20] Pathway and a second by Commissioner
[10:22] Bingham. If there's no further
[10:24] discussion, all in favor say I. I.
[10:27] >> Motion passes. Thank you.
[10:32] Okay. Um
[10:36] under under uh num number
[10:40] under under the fire department number B
[10:42] uh cooperation
[10:44] uh wildlife systems participation comm
[10:47] uh commitment statement agreement 26-21.
[10:53] Kevin Lloyd's going to talk a little bit
[10:54] to us about that. Thanks for being c
[10:56] being here Kevin.
[10:57] >> Kevin Lloyd Box County Fire Marshal. Um
[11:00] just for simplicity we just call it the
[11:02] PC.
[11:04] There's so many acronyms but this is the
[11:06] participation amount participation
[11:08] commitment from with the state uh for
[11:11] our the CWPP the cooperative wildlife
[11:14] protection plan of this is what we're
[11:18] going to give for basically that
[11:20] insurance policy. Uh what you got in
[11:22] front of you is some of the uh fuel
[11:24] brakes that they're going to create. uh
[11:26] some other projects that are lined up,
[11:28] some new equipment, um new brush trucks
[11:31] that are coming out, water trucks, uh
[11:33] whole new fleet heading out that way
[11:36] with our participation out the state's
[11:37] allowing us to build those through that.
[11:45] » Commissioners, any discussion?
[11:47] >> Um I don't have questions.
[11:49] >> Mr. Perry,
[11:50] >> just with this agreement, are we going
[11:53] to be able to do some things to help?
[11:54] Like I said, you have HAL is kind of out
[11:56] there on their own right now with some
[11:57] of this. I know we've got some folks
[11:59] moving out there. Will I be able to help
[12:00] those folks in Hal?
[12:01] >> Yeah, actually two of my wardens are
[12:03] moving out there.
[12:03] >> Okay.
[12:04] >> And they both have warden fire trucks,
[12:06] fire engines. We've talked to Hal a
[12:08] couple times. They're excited that we're
[12:11] coming out that way, too.
[12:12] >> Good to know because yeah, they're a
[12:13] long ways from other fire departments.
[12:15] So, it's a good thing we've got
[12:16] >> Yeah. Northrup rumor mill, but they
[12:18] might be closing that north plant, too,
[12:21] which has been helping us out in how for
[12:22] a while.
[12:24] Okay.
[12:25] >> Well, thank you. That's great
[12:26] information. Um, I'd entertain a motion.
[12:29] >> I'd make a motion that we approve coop
[12:31] the cooperative for wild and fire system
[12:33] participation commitment statement
[12:35] agreement 26-21.
[12:37] >> Second.
[12:38] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry
[12:41] to approve the cooperation wildlife
[12:44] system participation commitment
[12:45] statement agreement number 26-21 and a
[12:49] second by Commissioner Bingham. If
[12:51] there's no further discussion, all in
[12:53] favor say I.
[12:54] >> I.
[12:55] >> Motion passes. Thank you. Appreciate it,
[12:57] Kevin.
[13:01] » Plan's not You didn't You've already
[13:03] done that.
[13:03] >> Yeah, we did the plan already.
[13:04] >> The plan got approved in February, but I
[13:06] think Kevin needs a signed copy of it to
[13:08] send into the state along with this one.
[13:14] » Okay. Under the treasur's office, a
[13:16] request for forgiveness of late fees due
[13:19] to incorrect name on the notice account
[13:22] number Bravo 00000157.
[13:27] Jessica Smith
[13:29] and Corey Wild is going to visit with us
[13:31] on that.
[13:35] So, this item is in regards to a mobile
[13:37] home which is assessed as personal
[13:39] property instead of real. My
[13:41] understanding was prior to right now it
[13:45] was in her husband's name which was
[13:48] Justin
[13:50] excuse me should have been Justin Morris
[13:53] spelled M O R S and it was being mailed
[13:56] to Justin Moore M O R E probably just a
[14:01] typo or something. Um apparently that's
[14:05] the reason for the two years of
[14:08] non-payment and late fees. And I have a number here. I can give you this paper
[14:14] that the interest is calculated through
[14:16] yesterday if you want that for
[14:18] reference. But that what this item's in
[14:21] relation to. It was a wrong spelling on
[14:24] the last name for the it's now recorded
[14:27] in Jessica Smith's name, but for the two
[14:29] years in question
[14:31] was under Justin's name,
[14:33] >> but she's willing to pay the the regular
[14:35] taxes on it. Will you if we just forgive
[14:37] the late fees?
[14:40] >> That's my understanding. I haven't
[14:42] spoken with her. Erica, our personal
[14:44] property clerk has, but I said I'd come
[14:46] here and handle this tonight. But
[14:48] >> I mean, it sounds like a legitimate
[14:49] issue that's happened. Um, I think I
[14:52] would I would support um I'd make a
[14:55] motion that we forgive the late fees due
[14:57] to the incorrect name on that notice
[14:58] account of B0000157.
[15:03] » Second. We have a motion uh by
[15:05] Commissioner Perry to forgive the late
[15:07] fees due to incorrect name on the notice
[15:09] account of number uh B0000157
[15:16] and a second by Commissioner Bingham. If
[15:18] there's no further discussion, all in
[15:19] favor say I.
[15:20] >> I.
[15:21] Motion passes.
[15:23] >> Thank you.
[15:24] >> Okay. requesting an extension payment
[15:27] plan for property tax parcel
[15:29] 03-137-000032.
[15:33] Dustin Norman, would you just come and
[15:36] visit with us for a minute? Dustin,
[15:42] gentlemen.
[15:43] >> Okay. Can you just visit with us? Why
[15:45] are you requesting this?
[15:47] >> Um, when I met last time with you guys,
[15:49] I was under the impression I'd be
[15:50] released back to full duty at work. The
[15:53] medical doctors did not do that.
[15:54] December 8th.
[15:56] >> And then also,
[15:57] >> can you get closer to your microphone?
[15:58] >> Yes, sir. Um, I was not released back to
[16:02] work till December 8th, even though I
[16:03] thought it'd be sooner to the last time
[16:05] we met. And then due to medical issues,
[16:08] um, they've taken most of that, uh,
[16:11] income that's come in, but now that's
[16:12] been taken care of. Um, I've met with a
[16:15] few individuals in the county behind
[16:17] closed doors without violating HIPPA and
[16:20] grammar for anybody else about medical
[16:22] conditions and just requested for
[16:24] another one. But even I was lost with
[16:28] the fact that in the wording of the last
[16:30] meeting I uh requested for a year, but
[16:33] it was put in writing that it was till
[16:35] the year um less than five months. And I
[16:39] was like, I was shocked by that. But I
[16:42] did everything I could since then and
[16:44] made payments since then. And I request
[16:45] that I could have another full year to
[16:49] continue making the payments and getting
[16:51] that taken care of if you guys would
[16:54] allow
[16:57] >> any I'd like to hear from Sean. Sean,
[17:05] do
[17:05] >> you have any questions? Commissioner.
[17:09] » Yeah. If you just kind of what he what
[17:11] um he's Mr. Dustin, explain to us, Mr.
[17:13] Norman, explain to us where are they at?
[17:16] Where is he at at this point? Where are
[17:17] we?
[17:19] The total amount owing right now is
[17:20] $9,235.89
[17:23] represents about six years in back
[17:25] taxes.
[17:27] Slightly more than he did last year. He
[17:29] has made payments since uh he's had
[17:32] employment. There have been five
[17:34] payments made in the last 12 months.
[17:45] » And then commissioners, on the legal
[17:47] side, we do have an existing agreement
[17:48] in place with Mr. Norman that if we were
[17:51] to move forward with some sort of
[17:53] amendment, we would need to do that
[17:54] officially through an updated agreement.
[17:58] But we could put that together if that's
[17:59] what you chose.
[18:03] So, Mr. Norman, is the plan to have it
[18:04] paid off by the end of the year
[18:07] >> within a year from today? I hope so.
[18:10] Yes, sir. But if not, if it pleases
[18:12] commission, I'll be back here in a year
[18:14] and I'll check in with you to let you
[18:16] know exactly how we have been doing.
[18:21] » Um, so how much do you owe on on the the
[18:25] residents at this point? Do you have any
[18:27] idea of how much that is?
[18:29] >> Yes, sir. I guess what I'm looking for
[18:31] is I noticed some things on here. I'm
[18:32] just trying to figure out is we had
[18:34] somebody come into us and asked for the
[18:35] same type of thing and they went and got
[18:37] a home equity loan and just took care of
[18:39] their their obligation rather than us
[18:41] having to carry this the county. I just
[18:43] wondered if that's if you explored that
[18:45] option or
[18:47] because we we'd rather have you work
[18:48] with the bank and just have it on the books of the county is what we're
[18:51] talking about.
[18:52] >> Yes, sir. And with a packed house like
[18:54] this and way too many video recordings,
[18:56] it's not fun going public with my
[18:58] information. But due to the fact of all
[18:59] the medical bills over the last year and
[19:01] a half from me being on long-term
[19:02] disability,
[19:03] >> um, a lot of those have come back with
[19:06] late payments and stuff like that, only
[19:07] making 50% on long-term disability
[19:09] because they don't explain that to
[19:10] people. And so, a lot of bills got
[19:12] behind and have been since caught up,
[19:15] but with late fees and stuff like that,
[19:18] they're saying no. And in answer to your
[19:19] first question, my land title and deed
[19:22] are at home in the safe. My property is
[19:24] paid off.
[19:37] There we go.
[19:44] Okay, commissioners, if there's no
[19:45] further discussion,
[19:49] » can we get a motion?
[19:55] Soul any saying that if uh we do
[19:58] anything we've got to update an
[19:59] agreement?
[20:01] >> Yes, we do. We have a current one in
[20:02] place that um
[20:05] that has not been complied with and so
[20:07] it basically has voided that agreement
[20:09] and so to move forward we would need to
[20:11] update that with whatever the new terms
[20:12] are that the commission feels most
[20:14] comfortable with.
[20:16] But we can do that.
[20:24] And this is your current residence, Mr.
[20:26] Norman?
[20:27] >> Yes, sir. Mine, my spouses, and my
[20:29] brother-in-laws.
[20:30] >> Okay.
[20:37] » So, are you employed now? You say you're
[20:39] back to work?
[20:40] >> Yes, sir. Full time. North Cleo.
[20:50] Well, I don't want to put anybody out of
[20:52] a house. Um, I am concerned about the
[20:54] fact that
[20:56] agreement was put in place and it didn't
[20:57] appear to be um complied with and I
[21:00] understand HIPPA and different things,
[21:01] but it's incumbent upon you that you
[21:04] make sure that you if we give you this
[21:05] other year, you if there's even the
[21:08] least bit of a question, you got to get
[21:10] back in and start talking to us. Don't
[21:12] wait the whole year. Don't wait till 12
[21:14] months is up and then you're like, "Oh,
[21:16] I didn't get it taken care of." That
[21:17] can't be the case. Um, it's got to be
[21:20] the second you think there's a problem,
[21:21] you need to get back, meet with our our
[21:24] treasur, let them know, talking with our
[21:27] folks and making sure that's aware of
[21:28] it. But with that, I will make a motion
[21:31] that we'll extend we have you do a
[21:33] follow-up agreement for one year, and we
[21:36] would ask that you work toward getting
[21:37] that paid off within that year.
[21:39] >> One full year.
[21:40] >> Within one year. Yes.
[21:42] >> Okay. I'm just double checking because
[21:43] when we did get over to make the
[21:44] agreement, that's when they tried
[21:46] saying, "Oh, it's like $2,400 a month
[21:48] and oh, by the wording in the court, it
[21:50] was only five months." And even other
[21:53] members that were in the courtroom were
[21:54] under or in the commission were under
[21:56] the impression it was a full year.
[21:57] >> But you need to get in to the county
[21:58] attorney's office this week. Get that
[22:00] taken care of so that it's it's one
[22:01] year. It's not one year from when you
[22:03] show up at the county attorney's office.
[22:04] It needs to be one year from we're going
[22:05] forward here. So, that would be my
[22:07] motion.
[22:09] Uh just one other thing. Um I understand
[22:11] that agreement, but you need to
[22:12] understand that the county works on a
[22:14] calendar year. So at the end of the
[22:16] year, then the treasur's office is going
[22:18] to be viewing it differently than you
[22:19] are. So that's one reason why need to
[22:22] come in probably before the end of the
[22:24] year. You know, make that figured out.
[22:26] But anyway, with that in mind, I'll
[22:28] second your motion.
[22:30] >> Okay. and Dustin. Yeah. Make sure you
[22:32] work with with Sean with these guys,
[22:34] Sean and these guys so they know. If if
[22:36] you're having an issue, please don't
[22:38] wait. Make sure you get in and talk to
[22:40] them.
[22:40] >> No, I will. You and Sean are the two
[22:42] that know.
[22:43] >> Okay, sounds good. So, we have a motion
[22:45] by Commissioner Perry to approve the
[22:48] extended payment for the uh planned
[22:52] property tax parcel 03-137-0032
[22:57] and a second by Commissioner Bingham.
[23:00] There's no further discussion. All in
[23:01] favor say I.
[23:02] >> I.
[23:03] >> Okay. Motion passes.
[23:11] » Thank you, gentlemen.
[23:12] >> Thank you.
[23:13] >> I do feel for you dealing with what
[23:14] you're dealing with.
[23:17] >> Okay. Resolution number 2613
[23:21] adopted revised and updated personal
[23:24] policies and procedures regarding fleet
[23:27] policies and occupational safety and
[23:31] health. And Jennica is going to do this.
[23:33] Who do we
[23:34] >> Annie's going to do this after? Sorry,
[23:36] Annie.
[23:36] >> Oh, no, that's fine. Um what we found
[23:39] over the last year is that um there were
[23:42] some discrepancies between two sections
[23:45] of our policy regarding the failure to
[23:47] report accidents um that outline two
[23:50] different disciplinary processes for the
[23:52] staff. And so the changes made to the
[23:55] policy through this resolution corrects
[23:58] those discrepancies and make sure that
[24:00] we're um following the same process.
[24:07] can entertain a motion.
[24:08] >> With that in mind, I would make a motion
[24:10] that we approve resolution number 26-13,
[24:14] adopting revised and updated personal
[24:16] policies and procedures regarding fleet
[24:18] policies and occupational safety and
[24:21] health as mentioned by Annie Hansen.
[24:24] >> Second it. We have a We have a motion by
[24:27] Commissioner Bingham to approve number
[24:29] 26-13
[24:31] adopting revised and update updated
[24:34] personal policies and procedures
[24:36] regarding fleet policies and
[24:38] occupational safety and health as
[24:40] presented by Annie Hansen, a second by
[24:43] Commissioner uh Perry. If there's no
[24:45] further discussion, all in favor say I.
[24:47] >> I. Motion passes.
[24:52] Okay, before we get into our public
[24:55] comment period, um our our commissioners
[24:58] would like to say a few things. Um and
[25:01] so I will we will start with
[25:03] Commissioner Bingham first and then
[25:06] we'll go to Commissioner Perry and then
[25:08] to myself.
[25:10] >> First off, I appreciate all those that
[25:12] are coming. I know this has been a
[25:13] challenge for everybody involved.
[25:16] Um,
[25:18] and I appreciate the opportunity to hear
[25:20] what you have to say. I know, um, a lot
[25:23] of, uh, stress and anxiety came from our
[25:27] meeting last week. Um, the fact of the
[25:30] matter was, uh, we couldn't conduct
[25:32] business because we couldn't hear each
[25:33] other talk.
[25:35] So, uh, we appreciate the fact that
[25:37] you're here. We appreciate the fact that
[25:39] you're here to learn. We put a lot of
[25:41] information out on the county's website.
[25:44] We've tried to respond to all we can,
[25:46] but um we have listened and read
[25:50] uh I don't know somewhere in the 2500 to
[25:53] 3500 public comment via email, via text.
[25:59] So we've heard comments
[26:02] um and we appreciate the opportunity
[26:04] you're here today to hear what you have
[26:05] to say today. Thank you.
[26:08] >> Thank you, Commissioner B and
[26:09] Commissioner Perry.
[26:10] >> Thank you, Commissioner. Um I just want
[26:12] to reiterate the fact that uh
[26:15] last Monday the meeting the intent was
[26:17] to to try and share information. We um
[26:19] just for timeline we we received this
[26:22] very late notice on what was happening
[26:24] and um we immediately began due
[26:28] diligence trying to find out what our
[26:30] ability as a county was to push back and to try and find out whether this was
[26:35] even a legitimate thing that was being
[26:36] brought to our county. Um, so we met
[26:39] with the land owners out there and they
[26:41] explained that they had signed
[26:42] agreements and they were on they were on
[26:44] in support of this process and we still
[26:47] felt like we needed to put some
[26:49] protections in place if if we were to
[26:50] support the their right to sell their
[26:52] property as private property owners and
[26:55] knowing that it's unzone land in our
[26:56] county. Um, we were fully aware of that
[26:59] and we then consulted with our
[27:01] attorney's office and we hired an
[27:03] outside legal counsel and asked for
[27:05] their guidance and direction in this
[27:06] matter. and which point he told us that
[27:10] based on the first time we knew about
[27:12] this officially was when Maida came and
[27:15] presented it to us just prior to a
[27:17] commission meeting in March. That was
[27:18] our first inkling that this was an
[27:20] official thing coming forward at which
[27:22] point we felt like Maida was going
[27:24] forward with or without us at that point
[27:26] to some level which is where we
[27:27] consulted with attorneys and they said
[27:29] the best thing you can do is to protect
[27:30] your county as best as possible and uh
[27:33] we again wanted to gather more
[27:35] information. We wanted to put
[27:36] protections in place if it if this was
[27:38] to go forward. And so we did just that.
[27:41] We actually um had a meeting on the on
[27:44] the 22nd which we just approved the
[27:45] minutes for which we had I think 16 17
[27:49] people come and give public comment and
[27:50] actually speak about the project and
[27:52] about the land sale. A lot of them were
[27:54] land owners. Some of them were people
[27:56] who lived adjacent to that property that
[27:58] were concerned about things. And we
[27:59] heard from many of those people and
[28:00] appreciated the comments they made and
[28:02] wanted to get more information. So, we
[28:04] again scheduled another meeting to get
[28:06] protections in place. Um, that was going
[28:09] to be scheduled on the 24th of April and
[28:12] the protections weren't there. We didn't
[28:13] feel like we had enough to go forward to
[28:14] the commission meeting that night. It
[28:16] was canceled. I was rescheduled for the
[28:18] Monday following. That Monday, we came
[28:20] in, there was an agreement presented to
[28:22] us, but it wasn't we didn't have a lot
[28:23] of time to go over it. And people who
[28:25] were in attendance that day at that
[28:26] Monday meeting, we didn't get all the
[28:28] answers we needed as a commission that
[28:30] day. And so then we tabled the meeting
[28:32] for another week and I will tell you
[28:34] that there were a lot of people who were
[28:36] not just citizens. We wanted more
[28:38] information from our citizens. We wanted
[28:39] to hear more from them. Gave us a week
[28:41] to gather more information, more data
[28:42] that was as Commissioner Bingham alluded
[28:45] to, but we needed answers as well from
[28:47] the scient from different components to
[28:50] get answers to some of those questions
[28:51] about water, about what we could do as
[28:54] far as air quality, things like that. We
[28:55] needed to have those questions answered.
[28:57] That's what Monday's meeting led us to
[28:59] on the 4th was to hear from those
[29:01] experts um to answer the questions that
[29:04] have been asked. I applaud the um the
[29:07] efforts that have gone into getting
[29:09] correct information out and I appreciate
[29:11] the fact that our staff has worked
[29:13] diligently to answer I think roughly
[29:17] been roughly 86 prominent questions that
[29:19] were asked by our citizens and it's on
[29:22] our web page now and there are answers
[29:24] to those 86 questions as best as we can
[29:26] answer them at this point. Um some of
[29:28] the questions we still have questions
[29:31] about. We want to get those answers. Uh
[29:33] I'll just tell you that we were told
[29:36] indirectly or directly that uh if an
[29:40] action wasn't taken on the fourth um it
[29:43] was highly likely this project was going
[29:45] forward either way and we would have no
[29:47] protections. We would have no guarantees
[29:49] as a county.
[29:51] And so we obviously made the choice. We
[29:53] made in an effort in our belief or my
[29:56] belief was to protect our county's best
[29:58] interest to protect the taxpayers of
[30:00] this county so that they would not be um
[30:04] left without any protections and that
[30:06] this center could be forced down our
[30:08] throat without any protections in place
[30:10] without any guarantees as a county. Um
[30:13] so but I did want that information to
[30:15] come out at that meeting on the 4th.
[30:16] That was our our goal in intent. We
[30:19] tried to get that information out. there
[30:20] was um some of that information didn't
[30:22] come across. People didn't get to hear
[30:24] as many of the answers as we would have
[30:26] liked that night from some of the
[30:27] experts that were there. We've since
[30:29] published that. We published this
[30:31] timeline. It's all on our website at
[30:33] this point and we will continue to
[30:34] publish and be as transparent about
[30:36] everything that we're aware of and give
[30:38] it to the public as quickly and as
[30:39] efficiently as we possibly can. And
[30:42] we're providing that put that out there.
[30:43] I just want to make the public aware of
[30:45] that and we're looking forward to to
[30:47] hearing the public input to this
[30:48] commission meeting which we do at every
[30:50] regularly scheduled commission meeting
[30:52] where we do allow public comment. So
[30:54] that's all I have to say.
[30:56] >> Thank you commissioners. I appreciate
[30:57] that. One of the things that's being
[31:00] said um that I'd just like to clarify is
[31:02] that we are being bought off. That's
[31:04] absolutely untrue. Secondly um we our
[31:08] citizens need to know that we care. I
[31:11] mean, when they when we first met with
[31:13] them, they want us to make a decision
[31:15] right now. And we've tabled this several
[31:18] times so that we could gain information.
[31:21] Um, the three of us have spent an
[31:23] extensive amount of time studying and
[31:26] trying to understand this and put guard
[31:28] rails in, do those things that were will
[31:31] protect our county. We care about our
[31:33] county and uh we have things on our our
[31:37] web page now with the county. please get
[31:39] up and and get in there and and read
[31:41] into that and study about that. Um I've
[31:44] talked to several citizens that have
[31:47] actually emailed me. I've I've visited
[31:49] with them. Um we had Commissioner Prair
[31:52] I believe uh made the comment about the
[31:55] amount of emails that we've got. 3,500
[31:58] um about 268 or so of those are citizens
[32:02] of Boxelder County. um those people that
[32:05] come to disrupt our meeting last week,
[32:08] um those protesters got what they
[32:10] wanted. They came and they disrupted to
[32:13] where we were not able to be able to get
[32:16] the information out to our citizens. And
[32:20] so we want you to know that we do care
[32:22] about you. We care about Boxelder
[32:24] County. That's why we ran and that's why
[32:26] we're in office and we care about our
[32:29] county and going forward. So again, we
[32:32] appreciate you. Um, one of the things
[32:34] that was said in the meeting that I
[32:36] thought was interesting was that we
[32:38] broke the law because we didn't have
[32:40] public uh comment. Public comment is we
[32:43] don't that's we're not breaking the law
[32:45] by not allowing that. We allow that
[32:47] because we care about our citizens and
[32:49] we want to hear what you have to say.
[32:51] And so, uh, those of you that have sent
[32:53] emails and and, uh, we appreciate our
[32:56] staff and our attorney's office for
[32:59] helping to provide answers and helping
[33:01] with the amount of of emails that we've
[33:04] that have come in and filled those. Um,
[33:07] we appreciate them and and and uh, we
[33:10] appreciate the comments that have been
[33:11] given.
[33:14] So, at this time, um, we will have our
[33:17] public comment period. Those wishing to
[33:20] make making make public comment shall uh
[33:23] sign the comment role and be responsible
[33:26] of the following rules in the county
[33:28] commission rules and procedures.
[33:30] Speakers will have one threeinut
[33:32] opportunity to speak regardless of the
[33:34] number of items they wish to address.
[33:36] Speakers shall address their comments to
[33:38] the county commission only. This is a
[33:41] time to be heard. There will not be back
[33:43] and forth dial dialogue with the
[33:46] commissioners. Speakers may file copies
[33:48] of their remarks or supporting
[33:51] information to the county clerk. The
[33:53] county clerk will make the information
[33:55] available to the county commission. And we have got a few here to go over.
[34:01] So we will start with Diana Hardy first.
[34:08] Could you please state your name uh when
[34:11] you come up please?
[34:16] Diana Hardy. Um, the Boxeller Committee
[34:19] for Liberty is disappointed in your
[34:20] decision to support the AI data center
[34:22] in Boxella County, but not surprised,
[34:25] for this is the agenda to destroy our
[34:27] constitutions and the liberties of the
[34:29] people. Representatives past and present
[34:32] have helped to ignore and subvert our US
[34:34] and state constitutions by betraying
[34:36] their oath of office. We are also
[34:38] disappointed that you did not give the
[34:39] people the first amendment right to have
[34:41] a public comment hearing during your
[34:42] meeting at the Barceloa County
[34:44] Fairgrounds. It is the mark of a tyrant
[34:46] who subdued the freedom of speech.
[34:48] Governor Cox is fast-tracking this AI
[34:51] data center against the will of the
[34:52] people. Remember, he wants Utah to be
[34:55] the first smart city state. And these
[34:57] data centers are part of the
[34:58] infrastructure to surveillance, monitor,
[35:01] and control the people along with the
[35:03] implementation of broadband from border
[35:05] to border, smartphones, smart meters,
[35:08] block cameras, etc. His family owned
[35:10] Centriccom and sold it, but his father
[35:12] is still on the board of the new owners.
[35:15] He has a heavily invested interest in
[35:16] this monstrosity of a data center at the
[35:19] people's expense. The AI data center
[35:22] violates our Fourth Amendment by
[35:23] collecting our data, which is an
[35:25] invasion of privacy. These centers use a
[35:28] great amount of our resources. Utah is
[35:30] the second driest state in the country.
[35:32] Water is not abundant. This center will
[35:34] use twice as much power as the whole
[35:36] state of Utah and this will cause
[35:38] utilities to increase because of supply
[35:40] and demand thereby adding heavier
[35:42] burdens on the people. Billionaire Mr.
[35:45] Kevin Olirri from Canada is seeking tax
[35:47] exemptions for the people to subsidize
[35:50] this AI data center development. He is
[35:53] worried that China is so far ahead of
[35:54] the US and he is correct. China is ahead
[35:58] of the US in surveillance, monitoring
[36:00] and controlling the people. Our our
[36:03] representatives are betraying the free
[36:04] market by allowing interlocal agreements
[36:06] with certain businesses which creates an
[36:09] unfair playing field with businesses.
[36:12] The government is picking winners and
[36:13] losers in businesses. Government is not
[36:16] to enter into public private
[36:17] partnerships because it violates article
[36:19] 12 section 20 of the Utah Constitution.
[36:22] The free market provision. Our republic
[36:24] form of government is founded on the
[36:26] free market system that continually is
[36:28] being betrayed. Since our
[36:30] representatives are not listening to the
[36:32] voice of the people, it is up to the
[36:34] people to starve the beast, the AI data
[36:37] centers, by choosing not to use the data
[36:40] collecting devices. The question is,
[36:42] will the people help to choose to shut
[36:44] it down by turning away from the data
[36:46] collecting devices? In the book of
[36:49] Revelations, it speaks about the mark of
[36:50] the beast that we will not be able to
[36:52] buy or sell if we do not have the mark
[36:54] of the beast. Is this the device that we
[36:57] hold in the palm of our hand, our phone?
[37:00] Thank you.
[37:02] >> Okay, very good. Uh, Tanel Tagger Tag
[37:06] Tagger.
[37:15] » Hi, commissioners. I am here to um speak
[37:18] against the Stratos Stata Center,
[37:21] >> Talil Tagert.
[37:24] Um,
[37:25] I know you already know all of these
[37:27] things. I mean, it's it's going to cause
[37:30] immense problem to the whole state, not
[37:32] just to Boxelder County. And I hope
[37:35] you're taking that into consideration.
[37:36] We are in a severe drought in a desert.
[37:39] And I don't know why we're um going to
[37:41] bring something in that's going to use
[37:43] up all our water and heat the area around it. Like, we are going
[37:50] to burn up. We're not going to be able
[37:52] to live. Um, I really hope you will
[37:55] reconsider this. I know you mentioned
[37:57] earlier you don't want to put someone
[37:58] out of a house. That's what you're doing
[38:00] with all of this. So, it's a really big
[38:02] deal and we are mad. We are not going to
[38:05] forget about this.
[38:08] It will come back to haunt you if you
[38:09] just keep going forward with it. Please
[38:11] reconsider the decision. Thank you,
[38:17] » Walter Masterson.
[38:26] Hey, my name is Walter Masterson. I'm
[38:30] here to speak about the data center. I
[38:33] know people are very upset about Kevin
[38:36] Olir's new data center that will go
[38:38] right in the middle of Fox County, Utah.
[38:41] So, I have proposed an alternative
[38:44] location.
[38:46] Utah residents don't really like data
[38:48] centers. You know who loves data
[38:51] centers? Kevin Olirri.
[38:54] You know where Kevin Olir lives? Miami
[38:56] Beach. So, uh, I looked into it and the
[39:01] people of Miami Beach love data centers.
[39:04] Uh, let me, you don't believe me? Let me
[39:07] just list some of the local residents.
[39:09] Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Ken
[39:11] Griffin, Peter Teal, Larry Page, Sergey
[39:14] Brin, Ivanka Trump and her beard, Jared
[39:16] Kushner. These people love data centers.
[39:21] And that's just Miami Beach. I mean, if
[39:23] you go up further on Palm Beach, you got
[39:26] the CEO of Oracle, Larry Ellison, you
[39:28] got Mara Lago, huge fans of data
[39:31] centers. So, I can't, you know, all
[39:35] these people that I just listed keep
[39:38] saying how we need to build more data
[39:40] centers so we can compete with China.
[39:44] So, I cannot think of bigger fans for
[39:47] data centers than these true American
[39:49] patriots that I just listed.
[39:53] Washington DC, San Francisco, Miami,
[39:57] Atlanta, St. Louis, Pittsburgh,
[39:59] Minneapolis,
[40:01] all of those cities I just mentioned are
[40:04] smaller than Kevin Oolir's data center.
[40:09] Kevin Ol's data center project for
[40:11] Utah's called it's called project
[40:13] stratos it will be 64 square miles.
[40:18] Kevin Olirri says oh don't worry we
[40:20] won't be taking power from the grid and
[40:22] he's right because the data center is
[40:25] going to plug into the ruby gas
[40:27] pipeline. It's going to burn methane to
[40:31] meet its projected 9 gawatts of
[40:33] electricity
[40:35] every year. which means it's going to
[40:38] release over 50 metric tons of nitric
[40:40] oxide into Box County every year. The
[40:43] smog from Project Stratos will rival Los
[40:47] Angeles County
[40:49] except Los Angeles is a city of 9
[40:52] million people and Fox County uh 60,000
[40:55] people.
[40:57] So that being said, I am making a
[41:00] proposal to relocate this data center to
[41:04] Miami Beach. Kevin Oly loves data
[41:06] centers. Put it in his backyard.
[41:10] >> Thank you.
[41:15] » Sam Prren,
[41:24] I'm gonna be speaking about uh Stratos.
[41:26] Uh
[41:28] just something real quick. Uh, I feel
[41:31] disappointed in our local government's
[41:32] representation regarding the Stratos
[41:34] project. Um, it's disappointing to see
[41:36] how little consideration was put into
[41:38] something that will have impact for
[41:40] generations. Um, this issue has serious
[41:43] implications on all levels, locally,
[41:45] statewide, nationally, and globally.
[41:47] Environmental and pollution are concerns
[41:49] at the local level. Statewide water is a
[41:52] major concern and it's to accommodate AI
[41:55] that will will surveil the American
[41:57] public and support a war that is
[41:58] currently 58% American disapprove. Um
[42:03] lastly, I'm disappointed that the
[42:04] corporate billionaires were chosen over
[42:06] our county and uh people that live here.
[42:10] So, um I know I just
[42:14] wish we can do what we can.
[42:16] >> Thank you.
[42:24] Julie uh Quim Qualand
[42:28] >> Quinnland. There you go.
[42:56] Mr. Vincent,
[42:58] at the meeting in Tremont,
[43:01] you did not give an accounting of how
[43:02] many messages that you received that
[43:05] were for and how many messages were
[43:07] against the data center. You simply read
[43:10] one letter and said there are people who
[43:13] want this and read a letter that not
[43:16] only uh was
[43:20] compassionate towards you as
[43:22] commissioners like oh you poor people
[43:24] will have to make this decision which is
[43:26] true but to only read one letter and not
[43:29] even give an accounting was really rude.
[43:32] And then to have um Commissioner Bingham
[43:36] yell at the protesters and tell them to
[43:39] grow up. You know how women got the
[43:41] vote? We protested.
[43:45] It was our right and our constitutional
[43:48] right to protest and to treat us like we
[43:51] were less than was your immaturity. I
[43:56] believe that. Anyway, I think it would
[43:59] have been better for you to treat us a
[44:01] little better yourself. You should have
[44:02] backed up and had more meetings with the
[44:06] people were upset because they couldn't
[44:08] share. We found out the Sunday before
[44:12] your second meeting. You kind of snuck
[44:14] your your meeting in with uh comments,
[44:18] you know, before anybody even knew what
[44:19] was going on, unless they lived out
[44:21] there with the land that was being
[44:23] impacted. Now, there's one thing that
[44:25] people aren't talking about,
[44:29] and that is a whole bunch of people,
[44:32] including Sam Alman, Mark Zuckerberg,
[44:35] Jeff Bezos, Michael Bur. Now, if you
[44:37] don't know who Michael Bur is, watch the
[44:40] movie um the big um
[44:45] what's the name of that movie?
[44:46] >> The big short. Thank you. because this
[44:51] and a lot of people are saying this
[44:53] could be a bubble and that we are
[44:56] investing in AI way faster than it may
[45:00] be um used and we've had several in fact
[45:05] this Michael Bur he's the one that saw
[45:08] the home bubble coming on there was the
[45:10] subprime mortgage problem and nobody
[45:12] believed him he said this is a bubble
[45:14] it's going to it's going to burst and he
[45:17] was absolutely right and hurt a lot of
[45:19] people. Now, my husband and I, we lived
[45:21] in Silicon Valley and we lived through
[45:23] the dotcom bust. We were there. Uh he
[45:27] lost his job. He was unemployed for a
[45:29] year and a half. So, if we think we're
[45:31] going to have great jobs come, if this
[45:33] bural this bubble burst, the data
[45:36] centers in Virginia are going to keep
[45:38] running. Ours isn't going to run. We're
[45:40] too far away from everybody. Nobody's
[45:42] going to want to be out in the middle of
[45:43] nowhere. And besides
[45:46] this is generational.
[45:49] This doesn't just affect Boxelder
[45:50] County.
[45:52] This dust from the Great Salt Lake that
[45:56] should be on life support. We should be taking out grass. We should
[46:01] be saving water the way the city of
[46:03] Sandy is doing. And we should be saving
[46:07] that big lake because we get fresh water
[46:09] from it in the lake effect. And we also
[46:13] um that dust that
[46:14] >> Okay, your time is up.
[46:18] >> Thank you.
[46:20] >> Warren McGregor.
[46:31] » Hi, commissioners. My name is Warren and
[46:32] I can't believe I have to say this, but
[46:34] I am a Utah taxpaying citizen. Uh
[46:37] contrary to what Mr. Olirri is trying to
[46:39] spread. Uh, and I don't even know where
[46:42] to begin. For starters, why are we
[46:44] starting a public meeting with a prayer,
[46:46] with a Mormon prayer? Are you or you
[46:50] pray that we could be kind and cordial?
[46:52] There's nothing kind or cordial about
[46:54] what you're doing to us today. I I came
[46:56] straight here from work in Cash Valley
[46:58] and it was 22 degrees above the average
[47:01] for this time of year. And you want to
[47:03] drop 23 Hiroshima bombs worth of heat
[47:06] daily into the state? That will that's a
[47:10] crisis, right? We are already in a
[47:13] drought. You tell us to shorten our
[47:14] showers and not water our lawns, but
[47:17] you're approving one of the largest data centers in the country.
[47:22] Like people are going to die and you
[47:24] need to listen to the people. We do not
[47:27] want this. Nobody here wants this in our
[47:30] state. And if it goes through, you say
[47:33] that you want to add guard rails. You
[47:36] say that uh it was going to go through
[47:37] anyway, but the fact of the matter is if
[47:41] it was going to go through anyway, you
[47:43] should have just voted no. Show the
[47:45] people that we have a voice in local
[47:47] government. Instead, you just rolled
[47:49] over and let it go through. And
[47:53] people of Utah are upset. And I hope you
[47:55] update your resumes because I see your
[47:57] campaign posters every day. None of you
[48:00] are going to be in office ever again.
[48:02] Thank you.
[48:06] Tiffany Larson.
[48:19] » First, I would like to say that I can
[48:21] only imagine the immense pressure you
[48:23] guys have been under. Not only from the
[48:25] community that trusted you to have their
[48:27] best interests at heart and voted you
[48:28] in, but from those in higher positions
[48:30] of power. I have grown up in Utah from
[48:32] the BYU football fields when my dad was
[48:34] a graduate assistant under Lavell
[48:36] Edwards to graduating from Muggen High
[48:38] in 2006 and I now raised my 5-year-old
[48:40] daughter in Eagle Mountain, Utah. When I
[48:42] heard about the passing of the data
[48:44] center, I was immediately enraged. While
[48:46] I'm not a Boxelder County resident, I am
[48:48] a resident of Utah and this reckless
[48:49] decision will not only affect the county
[48:51] you were trusted to steward and protect,
[48:53] it will affect the rest of this great
[48:54] state and eventually the country. Many
[48:56] counties across the nation are listening
[48:58] to their constituents regardless of the
[48:59] immense pressure coming from above them.
[49:02] Harry S. Truman said, "America was not
[49:03] built on fear. America was built on
[49:05] courage and on imagination and an
[49:08] unbeatable determination to do the job
[49:10] at hand." Mark Twain said, "In the
[49:11] beginning of a change, the patriot is a
[49:13] scarce man and brave and hated and
[49:15] scorned. When his cause succeeds, the
[49:17] timid join him for then it costs nothing
[49:19] to be a patriot." And finally, Thomas
[49:21] Jefferson said, "What country can
[49:22] preserve its liberties if its rulers are
[49:24] not warned from time to time that their
[49:26] people preserve the spirit of
[49:27] resistance? Let them take arms." You
[49:30] guys have the opportunity to stand as
[49:31] our forefathers did for the rights and
[49:33] liberties of not only your constituents,
[49:34] but the rest of us that love this
[49:36] beautiful state God bless us with. True
[49:38] courage isn't found in times of ease.
[49:40] True courage shines in the face of great
[49:41] adversity. And like a mirror, it will
[49:43] show you your true character, integrity,
[49:45] leadership, and patriotism.
[49:48] Doing the right thing is never easy,
[49:50] especially on something of this
[49:52] magnitude of this magnitude. But if our
[49:54] forefathers just laid down and took the
[49:56] tax increase because it was the law and
[49:58] the pressure was too much or too scary,
[50:00] we wouldn't be Americans. We wouldn't be
[50:02] Utons and you wouldn't have the
[50:04] opportunity to be the commissioners of
[50:05] the area you claim to love. If you truly
[50:08] love this city and state, prove it and
[50:09] don't roll over so easy. Fight because
[50:12] this is the moment, your moment, because
[50:14] this is what you will remember for. This
[50:16] will be your legacy. Coward or patriot?
[50:23] » Julia Hubard.
[50:33] » Say good evening, but it's not one. Um,
[50:37] I'm confused because I think you guys
[50:38] all think that this is going to be fine.
[50:41] Um, and it's not. We can read project
[50:44] 2025 and we know what this data center
[50:46] is for. It's for them to test out
[50:48] surveillance on us. And it's also for
[50:52] them to ruin the state and then sell it
[50:54] for parts. That's unacceptable.
[50:57] And we're not okay. We're not going to
[50:59] be okay.
[51:01] >> So, if you think that this is going to
[51:03] go through and you're all just going to
[51:04] be just fine, not only are the people of
[51:07] Utah not going to be fine, but you're
[51:09] not either.
[51:16] Fred Hayes.
[51:28] » Hi. Uh Fred Hayes, Bear River Precinct.
[51:32] Um I'm um
[51:35] appreciate the the work that the
[51:38] commission has done and um I would like to say that I don't
[51:44] think that this
[51:46] uh project or others to come. This is
[51:49] just one in a a line of projects
[51:52] starting with the uh the inland port
[51:57] that has been in place been put in place
[52:00] by the Utah legislature. Now, if the
[52:03] eyeire of the people should be directed
[52:05] in the right direction,
[52:08] it would be to investigate the election
[52:10] system. Uh, I happen to have been there
[52:14] at the moment that the Lord
[52:18] handed
[52:21] the data on the Utah voter registration
[52:25] system
[52:26] and it we discovered that there are 373
[52:33] illegitimate phantoms in the Vista
[52:36] system
[52:38] and it's mathematically provable. So,
[52:41] our Utah registration system is hacked.
[52:45] Now, if this if that was a bank,
[52:49] that that registration system would be
[52:51] quarantined and shut down and
[52:52] investigated.
[52:55] And so, the the eye of the people should
[52:58] be directed toward 20 years of elections that have not been
[53:06] witnessed by hand counts and and
[53:09] eyeballs.
[53:11] And
[53:15] as an engineer, I worked up almost 30
[53:18] years as a chemical engineer
[53:20] daily using data interpreting it for
[53:24] conditions of normaly and and and
[53:29] using it to guide control systems and
[53:31] everything. I can see it's simple that
[53:34] the electronic election system is
[53:37] vulnerable
[53:39] and it's vulnerable in software. It's v
[53:41] vulnerable in hardware. It's vulnerable
[53:43] in communications. So now in Utah we
[53:47] have it proven and this is this is from
[53:49] a PhD mathematician in New York who
[53:52] reviewed this data. The Tilla County
[53:54] voter registration database was
[53:56] deliberately falsified falsified by
[53:59] purpose-written software. That is not an
[54:02] inference. It is a mathematical proof.
[54:07] This commission should be taking a stand
[54:11] for handcounted paper ballots and the
[54:13] people of Utah should wake up. You
[54:15] cannot vote with electronics and expect
[54:18] to have legislators
[54:21] preparing legislation that doesn't put
[54:26] vested interests in power. So, how's my
[54:30] time?
[54:32] >> You're three minute or three seconds
[54:33] left.
[54:34] >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
[54:40] Okay.
[54:42] We appreciate your comments. Um,
[54:47] let me do the warrant register.
[55:04] Commissioners, while you do that, I will
[55:05] just put on the record that we no longer
[55:07] needed the close session for the
[55:09] character and professional competence of
[55:11] an individual. So we can remove that
[55:13] from the agenda.
[55:15] >> Thank you.
[56:13] That's the ingredient
[56:19] for the trail.
[56:43] We need
[57:37] So
[57:43] Come on.
[58:04] This is awesome.
[58:42] Ready
[58:50] for a final motion?
[58:54] >> I am.
[58:54] >> I would make a motion to adjurnn.
[58:57] >> Second.
[58:57] >> We have a motion tojourn by Commissioner
[58:59] Perry and a second by Commissioner
[59:01] Bingham. All in favor say I. I.
[59:05] We're
[59:05] >> adjourned.
[59:09] Awesome.
[59:35] Right.
[59:52] Bye.