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» Okay. We'd like to welcome

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[clears throat] you to our commission

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meeting tonight. We appreciate uh all of

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you snuggling in and being here tonight.

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Um we will start off our meeting tonight

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by having the invocation by Commissioner

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Perry.

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>> Our heavenly father, we come before this

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time. We're grateful to be here in Boxer

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County and we're grateful for thy

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blessings that thou blesses us with. We

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ask a blessing at this time, Father,

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that thou will watch over those first

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responders who are dealing with the

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wildland fires that are occurring. That

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thou'll protect and watch over them and

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help them in their efforts to to deal with these issues. We pray that

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thou bloss bless and watch over all of

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our first responders. They protect us

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and keep us safe and and free. And we

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ask you to please bless those who are

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serving us in the military wherever they

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may be. That they'll know that we

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appreciate their service in in our

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behalf. And we ask that thy spirit will

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guide and direct us this night and

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always. And we say these things in the

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name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

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>> Amen.

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>> And we'll have our pledge of allegiance

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by our auditor Charlene Larson.

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Republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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>> Thank you, Commissioner Perry and

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Charlene. We appreciate that.

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Under administrative review, reports and

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future agenda items, Commissioner Perry

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would like to have some discussion.

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>> Yeah. Um, Mr. Mr. Chair, I just would

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like to ask our county attorney um seen

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some things recently about um open and

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public meetings and about commissioners

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meetings and just want to clarify with

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you as far as the open and public

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meetings law. Is there anything in the

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open and public meetings law that would

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indicate that the commissioners have

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done anything incorrect when it comes to

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open and public meetings concerning this

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matter or any other matter that you're

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aware of?

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>> There is not. And let me just explain

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that briefly. Because because you are a

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three-member commission, you have two

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functions, administrative and

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legislative. when you're conducting

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administrative things, running the

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business of the county, it's not a

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formal meeting. There doesn't have to be

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noticed as a formal meeting. You can get

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together and do that kind of stuff. So,

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uh, as long as you are not discussing

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things you're going to take a vote on,

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actually voting, then when you get

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together, it doesn't constitute an

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illegal meeting at this point. I'm not

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aware of anything that's gone on that's

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been an illegal meeting.

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>> If I'm familiar, that law was changed

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just a couple years ago in the legisle.

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wanted to clarify. So, thank you.

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proposed Garland uh, inland

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annexation.

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uh, drainage issues uh, at this

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down and runs onto private piece

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property. So, I'm wondering if we

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shouldn't um table this for another

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couple of weeks and let our roads

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department have an opportunity to review

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that and see what we need to do to

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resolve that drainage issue.

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as a former agenda item and bringing

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them back and not not discussing it

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tonight. I I did get the questions I

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needed answer for emergency services.

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did provide us some good information.

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answered, but if we need to get the

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drainage things, I'm fine with uh

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postponing it till the next meeting.

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just leave it as a former agenda item?

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meeting, I would probably have it as a

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to put it on the next item and get that

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We have a motion to uh put the Garland

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uh island annexation on our

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next meeting by Commissioner uh Perry

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there any further discussion?

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>> Motion passes. Thank you.

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anything, Charlene? Okay, very good.

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>> Clerk's office uh, appointment applications to serve on the

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East Garland Cemetery Board.

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gather um, we put it out, put the

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information out. We have four names that

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are available for us that have said they

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would be willing to serve as uh, board

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members. Um, the board is only made up

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of three members, however, so we have to

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make a determination tonight who we'd

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want on the board. The four people who

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have expressed interest and are willing

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to serve on that board are Corey

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and Dave Schaefer. Um, so my motion

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would be and then we could actually put

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the fourth member on as a non- voting

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member and they could actually fill in

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as a secretary if the other three so cho

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chose to do so. So my motion would be to

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accept the first three, Corey Ballard,

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Larry Hess, and Colleen Schaefer as the

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board members for the East Garland

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Cemetery Board. And then we would

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include Dave Schaefer as a non- voting

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member and could be if they wanted to

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choose to have him be the secretary

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could do that. That would be my motion.

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Bingham or Commissioner Perry to approve

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uh the first three applicants to serve

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on the East Garland Cemetery Board with

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Dave uh Schaefer as an alternative non-

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voting member and a second by

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Commissioner Bingham. Is there no Is

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there any further discussion?

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>> Motion passes. Thank you.

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» Okay. Uh number eight under

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commissioners letter of appreciation for

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the Boys and Girls Club of Northern Utah

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by the county commission.

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out the fact that uh the Boys and Girls

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Club, for those who don't know, recently

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um over the last three or four years has

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created a community resource center that

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they worked together with a lot of

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different folks here in Boxer County to

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create this great center here in Brigham

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City that uh benefits not just the Boys

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and Girls Club, but it benefits um our

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women's shelter. It benefits several

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nonprofits that are part of that. And

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they've even stepped up to help us with

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homelessness here in the Boxer County

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area. So, because of all of the efforts

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of the folks at the Boys and Girls Club

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in that community resource and community

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center, we'd like to um propose that we

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as a commission give them um a letter

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thanking them for the service that

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they're providing in our county and

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helping um with all the so many needs

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that need to be happening. and just our

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appreciation that they can use to let

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people know that they are doing things

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that keep our cost low as a county

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because of the things that they're able

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to do through volunteers and through people who donate to their their

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cause so that government doesn't have to

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take care of many of those kind of

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things. The Boys and Girls Club is doing

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it. So, I would make a motion that we

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approve a letter of appreciation for the

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Boys and Girls Club of Northern Utah to

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be thank them.

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Perry to approve appreciation letter for

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the Boys and Girls Club of Northern Utah

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and a second by Commissioner Bingham.

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Golden Spike Inland Port uh by the

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commissioners. And I think Commissioner

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>> actually I've got Sean Mil here who's

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been working with Bragg if he could come

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up front. We've had him doing some um

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economic development things and working

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on different things. And so Sean's got

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some information. I just want to ask

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believe, we went into an agreement with

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the inland port authority for the state

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of Utah. And I just want to ask Sean,

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has anything happened with any any I

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know I know Garland has got an inland

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port. I know Brigham City has an inland

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port and I believe Willard also has an

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inland port. Has there been anything as

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far as the portion of the box that our

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county went into the inland port with

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done?

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opportunity. For the record, Sean Mil,

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Bay River Association of Governments,

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Bragg, uh your economic development

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director. Um you're correct that several

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years ago we entered into that golden

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spike project area and there are a

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number of non-ontiguous

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u bubbles or zones where there's

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economic opportunity forecast might uh

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work with rail and as you noted the

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genesis of that participation with the

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Utah inland port authority was around

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the lakeshore learning 1.2 2 million

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square ft under roof there in the

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Garland area uh much to the benefit of

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Tmont and Garland in a in a big

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generalized sense. And then of course

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Newore and Brigham City which has been a

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longtime great corporate citizen here.

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not least of which one was called

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project or the perafrost zone where

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there was a potential for refrigerated

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cold storage uh for value ad a

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producers. uh another Harwood zone up by

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Tree Mountain that uh may or may not be

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relevant to be annexed into uh Tree

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Mountain one day. And like you

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mentioned, there are other some small

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municipalities that have either added

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into the project area land that's within

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their city limits. Uh so there have been

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a number of tire kickers over the years

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that have expressed some interest, but

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there's nothing as of late. Um, so I

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don't have anything new to report at

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this particular time on behalf of the

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Inland Port or our broad economic

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development activities.

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>> Okay.

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>> Doesn't mean that uh, you know, there

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have been some in the past, but nothing

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actively right now.

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>> Okay. Thank you.

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>> So, having that in mind,

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>> all sir?

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>> Oh, yes, that's it. Okay. So, having

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that in mind, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to

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um make a motion that we have the county

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attorney's office draft um

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correspondence to the inland port and

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asking them to while they can Garland

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Tremont can be part of it, Brigham can

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be part of it, Willard can be part of it

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that they would I would ask respectively

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that they let Brit County any land that

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we've put in and suggested be part of it

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be removed from the inland port um for

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the foregoing future unless for some

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reason a pre a former comm another

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commission decides they want to do

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something different but I would like to

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have that information sent by our county

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attorney's office inland port suggesting

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that Boxet County at this time be

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removed as one of the participants in

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the inland port that's what my motion

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would be

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>> second

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>> we have a motion by commissioner Perry

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to have our attorney send uh the inland

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port uh letter to have us removed and a

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second by commissioner Bingham if

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there's no further discussion All in

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favor? I

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>> I

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>> Okay, motion passes. Thank you. [snorts]

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Okay. Number nine under community

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development. We need uh Scott come

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forward so we can discuss um ordinance

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number 656 repeating ordinance number

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649 and reacting ordinance number 649

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with modifications

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and further discussion with everything

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else.

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>> All right. Scott Lions, Boxeller County

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Community Development. Um got a couple

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agenda items this evening. The first one

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as stated is uh ordinance 656. This

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essentially repeals and replaces uh

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ordinance 649.

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This uh ordinance 649 was a zoning

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ordinance that adopted zoning throughout

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what is considered the third ward area

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of Boxler County. uh kind of sits south

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of Tmont

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uh west of Lwood. Um a variety of

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residents got together and submitted an

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application to have their property zoned

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from the unzoned area to the

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agricultural heritage zone. um

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ultimately with the goal of placing that

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property into an agricultural protection

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area. Uh one of the residents that uh in

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the end decided to not have their

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property included in that zone change uh

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that one of their parcels was

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included in the uh legal descriptions

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when ordinance 649 was adopted. So the

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request is basically just pop back into

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that ordinance, remove that one 15 acre

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parcel and then read it essentially as

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ordinance 656.

359
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>> Okay.

360
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» So if I'm correct, we need a repeal

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ordinance 64. Let's see. Pass just if we

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just pass 656, will that repeal

363
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ordinance 649 or do we need to reenact?

364
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I mean, just so I understand what you

365
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what you're

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>> I believe if you just do 656, it's

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worded that it's essentially doing those

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other things. So, you should be able to

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just adopt 656.

370
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>> Okay. My motion be would be that we

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adopt ordinance 656.

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>> Second.

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>> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry

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to adopt ordinance 656 and a second by

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Commissioner Bingham. If there's no

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further discussion, I'll say I

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>> I

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>> Okay. 518 or I mean number B 6 number

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652 uh county road vacate Scott.

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>> Yeah. So this road and right ofway uh

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mapped as 53400 west and 27200 north uh

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located in the Clear Creek area of

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unincorporated Boxelder County. This

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went through the planning commission um

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on April 16th, 2026 and then came to you

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for a public hearing uh May 27th, 2026.

387
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So the way our vacate policy is worded

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is it goes through the planning

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commission through the county commission

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with the public hearing notice and uh

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public hearing held. Following that, the

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uh commission either directs staff to

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prepare the ordinance for adoption or

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directs or or denies the request. Uh in

395
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this case, you directed staff to prepare

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the ordinance. So, ordinance 652 before

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you this evening is the ordinance that

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would officially vacate that uh roadway.

399
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Um, and it would that what is a right of

400
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way by use would just return to the

401
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owner that owns that parcel that it

402
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crosses.

403
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>> Okay. I'll make a motion to approve

404
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ordinance 652 to vacate county road.

405
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>> I'll second it.

406
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>> We have a a motion by Commissioner

407
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Bingham to approve the vacate number 652

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of the county road and a second by

409
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Commissioner Perry. There's no further

410
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discussion. All in favor say I. I.

411
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>> I.

412
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>> Thank you. Um

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number C, ordinance 653, reszone un

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reszone unzoned to uh

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a Heritage Zone. Scott.

416
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>> All right. So this is another similar to

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the ordinance uh earlier. This is

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uh two land owners that decided to get

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together and request that their property

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that is currently unzoned be zoned to

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the agricultural heritage zone um with

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the end goal of placing that property in

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an agricultural protection area. Uh the

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application includes approximately 514

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acres of land. Um this is throughout

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kind of the Riverside Fielding Plymouth

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area of Boxhelder County. Um covers two

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different uh dairies as well as a lot of

429
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um uh field that is used for crops. Um

430
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this has been through the planning

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commission.

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It went to them. Public hearing was

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held. There was no opposition to it. uh

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the remainder of the area uh primarily

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unzoned used primarily for agriculture.

436
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There's some rural residential in the

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area. The

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final approval standard and this these are the standards reviewed by the

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planning commission and and uh the

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planning commission did forward a

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recommendation of approval for this

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zoning request um are whether the

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proposed amendment is consistent with

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goals, objectives, and policies of the

445
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county's general plan. Uh this request

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is consistent. That is what the planning

447
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commission and staff found whether the

448
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proposed amendment is harmonious with

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the overall character of existing

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development in the vicinity of the

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subject property. Uh both staff and the

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founding the planning commission agreed

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with that as well. Uh the extent to

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which the proposed amendment may

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adversely affect adjacent property. um

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staff and the planning commission didn't

457
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find any negative effects uh based on

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the request and then the adequacy of

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facilities and services intended to

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serve the subject property and this

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addresses roadways, parks and recreation

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facilities, police, fire, school, um all

463
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those things and the proposed amendment

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should reduce demand on all of those

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facilities and services. So based on

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that, the planning commission forwarded

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a recommendation of approval.

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>> So I'll make a motion that we approve

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ordinance 653 to reszone unzone to a

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Heritage Zone.

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>> I'll second it.

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>> We have a motion by Commissioner Bingham

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to approve number 653 reszone

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unzone to a Heritage Zone and a second

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by Commissioner Perry. There's no

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further discussion. All in favor say I.

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>> I.

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>> Very good. Thanks.

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Okay. Um number D, uh number 654,

480
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moratorum on data centers and data

481
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center power plants.

482
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>> So yeah, ordinance 654 essentially is

483
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proposing uh the county enter into a

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moratorum for what is considered a

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temporary land use regulation. And so

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our land use code allows for the uh

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planning commission or the county

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commission to uh start a moratorium of

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up to 180 days. So 6 months in order for

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the county to review certain things. In

491
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this particular case, it would be

492
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specifically data centers and data

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center power plants um to give us time

494
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to look at what uh how those should be

495
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reviewed and handled, what codes would

496
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need to be put in place, what zoning

497
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would need to be put in place, um things

498
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like that. And obviously not limited to

499
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just that. So,

500
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>> so this moratorum if we if we pass the

501
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way I've read it and looked at it would

502
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allow us gives us that six-month window

503
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so we can start to put some some

504
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parameters in place. So, even on

505
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unzoneed property in the county, we

506
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could actually require some process

507
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better than what what we've seen in the

508
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past, right?

509
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>> Yeah. So, there's a variety of ways that

510
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it could be addressed. Um whether that

511
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be with specific zones, it could be an

512
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overlay zone, it could be something like

513
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the county has a landfill specific zone

514
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or a mining specific zone.

515
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>> Um and that's where those those zones

516
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are the only zones that a landfill or uh

517
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mining is allowed. So if you want to

518
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>> use do one of those uses, then you would

519
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have to request to reszone your property

520
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to that whether your property is unzoned

521
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or not. Okay.

522
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>> Um so so something like that would be in

523
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consideration. Uh additionally approvals

524
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and review and approval standards would

525
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be considered as part of this. So, uh,

526
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both of those uses have, uh, review and

527
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approval standards very specific to the

528
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use and the, uh, detrimental effects

529
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that that use may, um, bring about, um,

530
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to,

531
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uh, the property, the adjacent property,

532
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the community at large, things like

533
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that, so that those can be addressed,

534
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you know, by the planning commission

535
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during the administration of that uh,

536
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those ordinances. So

537
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>> very good.

538
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>> Retroactive.

539
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>> Okay.

540
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>> Um

541
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from our county attorney, is there

542
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anything in in the 180 days that um it

543
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strictly would be from today forward is

544
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after we passed. Is that my

545
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understanding?

546
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>> Yeah. What what this does, it gives you

547
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an opportunity to decide what how you

548
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want to regulate them,

549
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,159
>> right?

550
00:20:54,159 --> 00:20:55,760
>> You've got to do that within six months,

551
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,000
180 days. If you don't, then it just it

552
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,799
lapses.

553
00:20:58,799 --> 00:20:59,360
>> Yeah.

554
00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:01,200
>> Um so you can decide how you want to do

555
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,039
that. But if somebody had so just to

556
00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:03,360
make sure

557
00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:05,120
>> if an application sorry to answer that

558
00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:06,640
if an application's been filed before

559
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,440
today

560
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,919
>> that proceeds forward anything filed

561
00:21:09,919 --> 00:21:12,320
after today then it has to be put on

562
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,400
hold till that six months is expired or

563
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,400
until some regulations adopted.

564
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,760
>> I want to clarify that that's the case.

565
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,520
Yeah. Because anything prior to that

566
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,200
would put us into a situation where we'd

567
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,559
be legally liable. Correct.

568
00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:24,159
>> Yes. Can't you can't pass a law after

569
00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:25,520
the fact to apply to something that's

570
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,720
already happened before.

571
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,400
>> That's what I wanted to make sure of.

572
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,559
Okay.

573
00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:32,559
Um if if there's no further questions, I

574
00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:33,760
would make a motion that we approve

575
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,400
ordinance 654, the data centers and data

576
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,840
center power plants.

577
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,960
>> Second.

578
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,440
>> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry

579
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,280
to approve number 654, moratorum on data

580
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,440
centers and data center power plants.

581
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,440
Second by Commissioner Bingham. There's

582
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,440
no further discussion. All in favor say

583
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:51,840
I.

584
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:52,640
>> I.

585
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,480
>> Motion passes. Thank you.

586
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,000
>> Thank you.

587
00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:02,000
>> Appreciate it, Scott. Okay. Number 10 in the sheriff's office. We

588
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,559
want to discuss a uh contract number

589
00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:12,559
26-25 for court uh baifts and services.

590
00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:14,159
>> Kate Palmer, Sheriff's Office, Chief

591
00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:16,080
Deputy. Uh we have our annual contract

592
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,080
with the state of Utah for court bailiff

593
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,880
services. Uh nothing's changed from last

594
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,200
year, but it's so the sheriff's office

595
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,559
provides bailiff services to the

596
00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:28,000
district court.

597
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,799
The only question I have is okay um

598
00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:32,960
nothing changed except for we pay pay

599
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,720
our bails more now today.

600
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,280
>> That's correct.

601
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,000
>> And is there anything we can do um is it

602
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,280
something we probably need to go back to

603
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,440
our legislators to to say hey you need

604
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,200
to increase based on the cost that we're

605
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,120
incurring as a county as these things go

606
00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,919
up because we just did this um on a

607
00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:51,039
different issue when it comes to our

608
00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:52,559
DMV. just fixed this with the

609
00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,480
legislature recently because we were

610
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,240
actually subsidizing the Department of

611
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,480
Motor Vehicle for the state of Utah. So,

612
00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,760
I I guess what I just want to know I

613
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,600
mean I'm okay with the contract going

614
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,960
forward, but I would like to go back and

615
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,520
say to the state you need to continue to

616
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,720
take care of these things. We shouldn't

617
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,400
be subsidizing

618
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,520
your cost to operate your court. Is that

619
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,200
>> Yeah, that's come up. The attorney's

620
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,200
office is looking into it. Um I think

621
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,960
the state's on their fiscal budget year

622
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,480
that starts in July, so that'll be

623
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,840
something we need to work on for next

624
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,480
year.

625
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,720
>> Okay. Well, I just like I said, we just

626
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,000
addressed it with the Department of

627
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,280
Motor Vehicle issues, so that's a good

628
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,960
point. I just wanted to make sure. So,

629
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:27,520
>> yep.

630
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,320
>> Okay. I'd make a motion that we approve

631
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,400
contract 2625 for the court perimeter

632
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,159
and baift services as explained by our

633
00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:35,440
chief deputy.

634
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,880
>> Second.

635
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,280
>> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry

636
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,280
to uh approve number 26-25

637
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,280
for court bailiff services and a second

638
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,240
by Commissioner Bingham. There's no

639
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,159
further discussion. All in favor? Hi.

640
00:23:50,159 --> 00:24:02,789
>> Hi.

641
00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:06,320
» Okay, we are now to our public comment

642
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,159
period.

643
00:24:08,159 --> 00:24:11,039
Those wishing to make uh public comments

644
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:13,440
shall sign the comment role and be

645
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,720
responsible for the following rules

646
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,400
outlined in the county commission rules

647
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,279
and procedures. Speakers will have one

648
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:21,039
threeinut opportunity to speak

649
00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:22,559
regardless of the number of items they

650
00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:24,960
wish to address. Speakers shall address

651
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,640
their comments to the county commission

652
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,039
only. This is a time to be heard. There

653
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:31,120
will not be a back and forth dialogue

654
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,440
with the commissioners. Speakers may

655
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,760
file copies of their remarks or

656
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,400
supporting information with the county

657
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,080
clerk. The county clerk will make the

658
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,240
information available to the county

659
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,840
commission.

660
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,320
And we will start off with Jack

661
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:53,990
Strickney.

662
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,480
Hello commissioners. Uh my name is Jack

663
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,440
Stikney. I'm a 26y year resident of Box

664
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,400
Elder County living in Tmont. And uh

665
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,559
thank you for giving me the opportunity

666
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:07,200
to speak. I acknowledge that the people

667
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,440
in our community who have sincere

668
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,000
concerns about the proposed Stratos

669
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,480
project questions about water, air

670
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,640
quality, wildlife, power generation,

671
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,720
infrastructure, and long-term impacts

672
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,200
are legitimate. They deserve to be

673
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,720
heard, and most importantly, they

674
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,760
deserve factual answers. That said, it's

675
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,279
also important that we distinguish

676
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:30,000
between perceived fears and actual

677
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,480
reality. The fact that we worry doesn't

678
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,799
mean our worst fears will happen. most

679
00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:37,440
don't. Likewise, supporting stratus

680
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,080
doesn't mean the project is risk-f free.

681
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,840
The purpose of this moratorum should be

682
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,159
to find the truth, not to be persuaded

683
00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:46,880
by outcomes that either side simply

684
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,919
feels are true. We've seen public

685
00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:51,679
meetings, social media campaigns,

686
00:25:51,679 --> 00:25:54,159
organized opposition, lawsuits, and

687
00:25:54,159 --> 00:25:56,559
polling. These demonstrate that people

688
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:58,240
care deeply about the future of our

689
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,360
county. But public opinion, no matter

690
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,600
how strongly held, is not a substitute

691
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,840
for scientific analysis, engineering

692
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,880
assessments, and fact-based evidence.

693
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,799
This moratorum should be used to study

694
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:13,120
the actual water availability and

695
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,240
quality, the likely CO2 emissions and

696
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,559
heat dissipation impacts, the real

697
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:20,720
impact uh wildlife populations,

698
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,440
movements and flyways, the calculated

699
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,360
fuel requirements for power generation,

700
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:27,760
the actual infrastructure needs and true

701
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,720
economic benefits and costs. That's a

702
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,840
tall order for 180 days, but the guiding

703
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,840
principle should be simple. follow the

704
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,320
science, the engineering, and the facts

705
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,720
wherever they lead. The developers have

706
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,240
already modified their proposal and

707
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,760
responded to concerns raised by

708
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,080
officials and the public. Whatever your

709
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,640
position, public participation is is

710
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,120
essential. I hope we will evaluate both

711
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:53,440
the actual risks and the actual

712
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,840
opportunities. Every major project

713
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,080
carries impacts. The question is whether

714
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,919
those impacts can be understood,

715
00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:02,480
mitigated, and managed in a way that

716
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,200
benefits our community, our state, and

717
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,520
our nation. Finally, I believe the

718
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,520
discussion is about more than a single

719
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,400
project. From the railroad to aerospace

720
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,120
to silicon slopes, Utah is has a long

721
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,440
history of innovation. We are entering

722
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,400
an area an era in which advanced

723
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,320
computing, artificial intelligence,

724
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,880
energy, energy infrastructure and

725
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,320
technological innovation will

726
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,400
increasingly shape our economy and our

727
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,720
future. These developments will occur

728
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,279
somewhere. Our responsibility is decide

729
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:35,600
carefully and honestly whether they

730
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,080
should occur occur here and in a manner

731
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,240
with our values, our responsibilities,

732
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,880
and our long-term interests. My points

733
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,960
today are simple. Facts carry more

734
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,279
weight than assumptions. Evidence

735
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:49,200
carries more weight than emotion. And

736
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,760
transparency builds trust. And when the

737
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,000
evaluations are complete, let's have the

738
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,840
courage to follow the facts wherever

739
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,159
they may lead. Thank you.

740
00:27:58,159 --> 00:28:01,200
>> Thank you.

741
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:11,750
>> Okay, Christine Williams.

742
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,480
» Thank you, commissioners, for letting me

743
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,919
um speak. Um

744
00:28:15,919 --> 00:28:17,279
>> you need to pull that mic just a little

745
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:18,240
closer. Come

746
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,679
>> a little closer. Thank you.

747
00:28:21,679 --> 00:28:24,159
>> My husband and I live in North Garland.

748
00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:28,320
We are on a well, not a good well.

749
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,080
We have tried to hook into the culinary

750
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,640
water up there. They proceed to tell us

751
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,480
there's not enough water. There's no

752
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,720
infrastructure.

753
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,960
The water line runs across the street

754
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,039
from us, but we can't hook it.

755
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:44,640
Our home is in the Mountain View

756
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,520
subdivision, which had zero fire

757
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,840
hydrants in place when we closed out our

758
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,720
home less than two years ago.

759
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,399
This was against fire codes.

760
00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:58,640
After our homeowners insurance increased

761
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,039
due to no fire hydrants, we contacted

762
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:04,559
the fire chief. I personally contacted

763
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:08,080
or left a message for Mr. Bingham and

764
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,520
Mr. Perry with no response.

765
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,440
I

766
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,159
was unfortunately not very ladylike. I

767
00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:19,520
was angry, frustrated that no one would

768
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,399
give me true answers,

769
00:29:22,399 --> 00:29:24,559
zero truth.

770
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:28,630
I

771
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,320
ended up speaking with the fire chief.

772
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,799
He knew about there being no fire

773
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:35,279
hydrants out in our area.

774
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,360
I spoke with the zoning committee. They

775
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,320
knew about it. I spoke with the

776
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,960
per building permit office. They knew

777
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,710
about it, but yet they allowed

778
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,919
the building inspectors to inspect and

779
00:29:53,919 --> 00:29:57,600
pass and give occupancy

780
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,039
on something against fire codes.

781
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:03,440
I my husband and I had a conversation

782
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,399
with the county attorney. He knew about

783
00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:08,000
it.

784
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,240
He said that it shouldn't have happened.

785
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,720
Just one little tiny thing could have

786
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,360
impacted my husband's life, my life

787
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,960
forever.

788
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,440
And it has increased our homeowners

789
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,000
insurance over $100 a month. And for the

790
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,200
life of our loan, that's over $36,000

791
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,510
for my husband who's retired.

792
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,640
So going forward with everything that's

793
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,480
happening in this community,

794
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,360
um I have a few thoughts.

795
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,799
If they drill wells out for this data

796
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:47,840
center, which they have to do, that

797
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,440
impacts every single water

798
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,159
infrastructure in the region from the

799
00:30:54,159 --> 00:30:57,120
Idaho border down to past the Great Salt

800
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,919
Lake. Every well will be impacted.

801
00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:03,760
Our well isn't good in our area we're

802
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,200
at. There's no water to hook up to

803
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,789
culinary water.

804
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:13,279
How can you allow

805
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:16,159
wells to be drilled when the residents

806
00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:21,520
who are here will be impacted? No doubt.

807
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,110
Secondly,

808
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,520
I question

809
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,480
due to the

810
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,760
>> Christine, your time's up. I'm sorry.

811
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,750
>> Thank you,

812
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,350
» Tom Brady.

813
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,120
» I've been here four times.

814
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,350
>> Good evening.

815
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,640
Yesterday I had the wonderful

816
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,000
opportunity of sharing very fond

817
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,559
memories with the family. We watched the

818
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:54,880
movie Dogman. Even though this was a

819
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,200
fictional animated movie, it had several

820
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,880
worthwhile themes that parallel the

821
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,200
situation we are currently experiencing

822
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,519
here in Boxelder County. There were

823
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:05,600
several evil villains who attempted to

824
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,760
destroy the city. As the movie

825
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,440
progressed, the villains gradually

826
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,000
changed their attitude and behavior. But

827
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,919
it was too late. This city was

828
00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:15,760
destroyed. Even the weeds started to

829
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,640
die. Right now, we the people know who

830
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,559
the villains are. In fact, the villains

831
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:22,799
know who they are. They can morph into

832
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:26,159
heroes before it is too late. By voting

833
00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:28,880
absolutely no to an AI data surveillance

834
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,600
center here in Boxelder County. This

835
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,279
evening, we the people are fighting for

836
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:35,840
truth, justice, our pristine way of

837
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,919
life, and the American values that made

838
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:40,480
this country great. As we celebrate the

839
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,480
250th anniversary of our country,

840
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,480
reflect upon the events that

841
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,640
precipitated during the infamous Boston

842
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,960
Tea Party.

843
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,080
During the Tea Act of 1773,

844
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,399
it wasn't so much about the tax because

845
00:32:54,399 --> 00:32:56,240
it actually lowered the price of the

846
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,039
tea, but the no taxation with rep

847
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,279
without representation was the main

848
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:03,600
issue. The patriots felt that Britain

849
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,679
could impose the tea tax. They could

850
00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:08,159
also impose other taxes and restrictions

851
00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:10,960
upon the colonies. This data center must

852
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,360
not proceed without the full approval of

853
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,279
the citizens who will be impacted the

854
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:17,919
most. This includes all environmental

855
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:20,080
impact studies including water and its

856
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,399
pollution, noise, the impact upon Great

857
00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:25,120
Salt Lake, electricity, climate change,

858
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,760
and any other studies in support of this

859
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,240
facility of this magnitude. No

860
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,880
implementation without representation

861
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,240
should be our slogan and battlecry. The

862
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,919
hopey Indians have a very important

863
00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:39,360
phrase and philosophy concerning the

864
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,919
earth's guard guardianship the parowan

865
00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:44,640
gap. It is to preserve protect and be

866
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,200
good stewards of the of the earth by

867
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,279
allowing the day center are we really

868
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,960
being good s stewards of the earth. God

869
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,960
is not happy with the decisions of our

870
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,960
current leaders. He has proclaimed this

871
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,120
disregard by sending a drought to us,

872
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,960
which is happens to be the driest and

873
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,360
warmest on recorded history here in

874
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,760
Utah. The leaders did not hear that

875
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,840
message sent by God. And so they sent

876
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,000
another plague. And this one was an

877
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,320
early frost that decimated the peach and

878
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,639
other fruit tree crops. If the leaders

879
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,800
aren't going to listen to we the

880
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,200
citizens, maybe they ought to listen to

881
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,359
God, the creator of this wonderful

882
00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:23,520
earth. Chinese and Russian critical

883
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,760
materials are also going to be used in

884
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,079
this particular one which is another

885
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:30,720
issue. Security artificial intelligence

886
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:32,879
will destroy our economy, human

887
00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:35,280
relationships along with many other good

888
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,040
high-paying jobs. Are you willing to

889
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,839
sacrifice the citizens of this wonderful

890
00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:44,879
community for 30 pieces of silver? Thank

891
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:49,510
you. Yeah. [applause]

892
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,439
Diana Hardy.

893
00:34:51,439 --> 00:35:03,190
[applause]

894
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,240
» Okay. Diana Hardy Bighgam. The Boxeller

895
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,320
Committee of Liberty Liberty needs to

896
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,400
correct the Boxiller County Commission

897
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,800
minutes minutes of April 22nd. It was

898
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,880
stated in the minutes, "The citizens are

899
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,079
being forced to turn over their

900
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:18,480
hard-earned money to pay for salaries."

901
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,040
This statement is incorrect. The correct

902
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,359
statement should read, "The citizens are

903
00:35:23,359 --> 00:35:24,640
being forced to turn over their

904
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,720
hard-earned money so that elected

905
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:29,280
representatives can have larger salaries

906
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,839
and defund unconstitutional socialist

907
00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:33,599
government programs."

908
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,520
It was stated in these same minutes

909
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,400
incorrectly that quote she said

910
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,400
Commissioner Bingham stated he is for

911
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,720
property rights and wanted to zone

912
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:44,960
people's property. This statement is

913
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,359
incorrect. The correct statement should

914
00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:50,000
read Commissioner Bingham reported he is

915
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000
for property rights but is trying to

916
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,079
zone all the pro all the county's

917
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:56,800
property which is unconstitutional.

918
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,800
It is concerning that the minutes have

919
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,179
been inaccurate so many times.

920
00:36:02,179 --> 00:36:03,760
[snorts] Would all representatives be

921
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,160
treating these data centers differently

922
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,640
if they were called by their true name?

923
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,359
Surveillance centers. These surveillance

924
00:36:11,359 --> 00:36:13,200
centers are violating our right to

925
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,839
privacy, the Fourth Amendment. Our

926
00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:18,320
smartphones should instead be called

927
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,119
surveillance phones. Smart meters on our

928
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,520
utilities should be called surveillance

929
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,680
meters. smart TVs, surveillance TVs,

930
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,520
smart cities, surveillance cities, etc.

931
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,280
The founding fathers said what King

932
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,839
George III did to the people had a happy

933
00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:38,000
effect because it woke the people up to

934
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,400
their duty and responsibility to the

935
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,880
gift of liberty. What these surveillance

936
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,280
centers have done is awaken the people

937
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,000
up to their duty and responsibility to

938
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,560
the gift of liberty. We the people are

939
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,359
to be the watchmen. Alexander Hamilton

940
00:36:53,359 --> 00:36:56,480
stated in Federalist's papers 33 that

941
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,880
when the government steps outside of its

942
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,680
boundaries of its constitutional limits,

943
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,599
the people who have created this

944
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:04,960
government, remember [clears throat]

945
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,720
the government is a creature of the

946
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,760
people must now stand and remedy the

947
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,200
injury that has been done to our

948
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,800
constitution.

949
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,560
All representatives take an oath of

950
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,280
office to support, obey, and defend the

951
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,160
US and state constitution. But sadly,

952
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,640
representatives betray their oath of

953
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,760
office and keep subverting and ignoring

954
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,000
both constitutions.

955
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,240
The founding fathers taught that

956
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:36,240
whatever is contrary to the constitution

957
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:39,760
is null and void and of no force. All

958
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,440
these surveillance centers should be

959
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,680
shut down as well as all other

960
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,160
surveillance surveillance phones,

961
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,599
meters, TVs, and smart cities. Thank

962
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:51,680
you.

963
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,910
>> Thank you, [applause]

964
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,320
» Jennine [cheering] Bill.

965
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,119
>> What was that?

966
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:26,950
>> Janine Bill.

967
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,359
Uh, I'm Janine Bill and thank you for

968
00:38:29,359 --> 00:38:32,800
letting me speak. During COVID, my

969
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,240
husband and I attended a public hearing

970
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:39,520
at the state capital on mandatory

971
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,920
vaccinations

972
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,320
and over a thousand citizens attended

973
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,880
and we were graded with gratitude and a

974
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,000
willingness to hear our concerns.

975
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,000
Uh we overflowed three different rooms

976
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,720
and everyone was allowed one minute to

977
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,800
share their concern about mandatory

978
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,640
vaccines

979
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,960
and as long as they didn't repeat the

980
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,680
same problem and we were thanked for

981
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,359
coming and in the end our concerns were

982
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:14,000
heard and it helped them say no to

983
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,560
mandatory vaccinations.

984
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,560
what has been happening with the data

985
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,720
center.

986
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:22,480
Even the commissioners have felt like

987
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,880
they've been blindsided,

988
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,760
which doesn't encourage trust of what's

989
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,520
going on. It's a mess.

990
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,839
And um

991
00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:36,480
the attitude is is our const we don't

992
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,000
have any constitutional rights, but we

993
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,760
exercised that at the capital during CO.

994
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,200
So it appears to me if we didn't have

995
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,640
constitutional rights, what is this big

996
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,119
push to bypass our rights

997
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:58,240
to have a say to have a clarity of

998
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:00,560
what's going on and actually get to the

999
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,200
facts. I don't think we've been given

1000
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,880
the facts.

1001
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,520
And my biggest concern is if this goes

1002
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,920
through,

1003
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,720
how do we trust that the permits that

1004
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:19,520
have been given out weren't bought

1005
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,560
uh actually occurred.

1006
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,680
We need a way to know

1007
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,400
that what we're concerned about is

1008
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,560
addressed and is verified and that we

1009
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,079
have a way or a control. I keep getting

1010
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:39,599
told we can't do anything. We just have

1011
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:43,839
to go along. And that's not true.

1012
00:40:43,839 --> 00:40:46,800
And just as President Reagan used to

1013
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,200
say, trust and verify. I want to know

1014
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,520
for sure

1015
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,040
that these permits are real. I want to

1016
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,560
know for sure they're verified.

1017
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,680
And I really want it not to even happen.

1018
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,839
Thank you. And I didn't read it, but it

1019
00:41:07,839 --> 00:41:09,359
says the same thing.

1020
00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:13,430
>> Thank you. [applause]

1021
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:26,470
Miguel Durant,

1022
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,560
» thank you for the time.

1023
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,480
>> Um,

1024
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,960
>> I have mostly questions and I realize

1025
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,880
you can't answer them, but they're

1026
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,000
Miguel Durant.

1027
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,160
Um

1028
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,960
the first thing I'd like to know is the

1029
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,560
how the um owners slash builders are

1030
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,680
going to power the data center. Is it

1031
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,280
going to be um from the existing

1032
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,480
infrastructure? Is it going to be

1033
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,440
um gas turbines or is it going to be

1034
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,880
nuclear? Um and each one of those has

1035
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,839
additional questions. Um the gas

1036
00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:08,880
turbines generally are going to inc uh

1037
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,680
impact our um

1038
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,160
our uh air quality and nuclear. Um I'd

1039
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,280
like to know what kind of safety

1040
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,280
um concerns they have.

1041
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,200
Uh [sighs and gasps]

1042
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,200
secondly, I'd like to know about the

1043
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,319
water. Um again, they're going to be um

1044
00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:34,880
a lot of water used. um not only in

1045
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,480
construction

1046
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,520
uh but um in the uh um day-to-day use of

1047
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,079
the the facility.

1048
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:45,839
Um where they going to get the water

1049
00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:50,240
from? Uh is there going to be a recycle

1050
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:52,720
a recycled system or is it going to come

1051
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:56,079
from one of the rivers and then dumped

1052
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:59,520
back out uh which creates uh heat

1053
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,119
issues.

1054
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:03,760
And um the other thing that I'm

1055
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,720
concerned about is um the number of

1056
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,599
jobs. Um I understand there's going to

1057
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:10,960
be quite a few jobs during the

1058
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,240
construction, but um after that's all

1059
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:15,920
done, I'd like to know how many

1060
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,599
permanent jobs are going to be um in the

1061
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:22,400
fac from the facility and are they going

1062
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,960
to bring in people from all over the

1063
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,760
country? Um, are they going to consider

1064
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,000
uh maybe training some people from

1065
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,079
Boxelder County to take some of those

1066
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,880
jobs? Um,

1067
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:35,445
and

1068
00:43:35,445 --> 00:43:35,680
>> [snorts]

1069
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,359
>> uh,

1070
00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:39,680
those are my main concerns. Thank you.

1071
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,440
>> Thank you,

1072
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:51,155
>> Shane Jenkins.

1073
00:43:51,165 --> 00:43:59,030
» [snorts]

1074
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,200
» Commissioners,

1075
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,280
appreciate the opportunity to sit before

1076
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,520
you.

1077
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,319
Um, I understand I was at been to all

1078
00:44:08,319 --> 00:44:10,000
the meetings. Well, not the first one

1079
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,680
here, but the county meeting of the at

1080
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,760
the fairgrounds and heard the responses

1081
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,079
and everything. I understand. I know

1082
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:18,800
some of your family members. Um, and so

1083
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,319
I've got kind of a third-party

1084
00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:24,160
um, explanation of what was put upon

1085
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,079
your gentleman's shoulders, the lack of

1086
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:29,920
foresight. Well, you know, you you guys

1087
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,000
were blindsided from what I understand.

1088
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,079
You said you had no choice. You said

1089
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:37,760
that it was presented to you something

1090
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,160
like we either vote for it and have some

1091
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,480
say or we can stand against it and get

1092
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,200
run over and not have any say. So

1093
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,200
basically, you voted for the lesser of

1094
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,160
two evils.

1095
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,599
>> I still voting for evil, gentlemen.

1096
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:54,480
>> Yes.

1097
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,200
>> For sure.

1098
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,880
>> Yes.

1099
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,079
>> Best thing ever said.

1100
00:44:58,079 --> 00:44:59,359
>> Pull it down.

1101
00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:00,240
>> You pull it down

1102
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,720
>> if this goes through. Excuse me. I have

1103
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:04,400
the floor.

1104
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,720
>> Yeah.

1105
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:08,560
>> You're cutting in my time.

1106
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,920
>> Where? Sorry.

1107
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,040
>> That's okay. um

1108
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,800
if this goes through and what the

1109
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,040
scientists say is accurate because we

1110
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,720
don't have any. It's all speculation,

1111
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,800
right? All sides. Well, except for the

1112
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,319
people that really know. I think this

1113
00:45:22,319 --> 00:45:23,520
whole thing is stepping it back to

1114
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,760
10,000 acres was the goal all along. And

1115
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,359
you guys said, "Let's go 40 cuz they're

1116
00:45:29,359 --> 00:45:30,640
going to scream. And when they scream,

1117
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,160
we'll cut it back to 10 and get what we

1118
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,480
want." I think this whole thing is a

1119
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,880
bunch of bad actors and a comedy reality

1120
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,680
TV show.

1121
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,359
>> Yeah.

1122
00:45:39,359 --> 00:45:41,760
We see through it. It's the old story of

1123
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,680
the emperor has no clothes. Remember

1124
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,680
that in school? [snorts]

1125
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,599
Do you remember that story? Oh, you

1126
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:49,280
can't answer.

1127
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,960
You guys need to look up the emperor has

1128
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,400
no clothes because your highness, we see

1129
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,160
your nakedness.

1130
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,000
And if this goes through and paints this

1131
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,200
valley like the speculation is and

1132
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,960
destroys our land and our homes and

1133
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,599
creates all the atmospheric toxic dusts

1134
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:09,359
and things to creates destroys the the

1135
00:46:09,359 --> 00:46:10,800
farmland and the mountain everything

1136
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,440
that we've come to love here.

1137
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,640
It's my belief if that happens and we

1138
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,599
make it this far that your descendants

1139
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:22,079
will curse you to the 10th generation.

1140
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,319
That's all I have to say. And I excuse

1141
00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:28,950
myself for this. [applause]

1142
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,270
» Stephanie man, [cheering]

1143
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:41,910
Stephanie Man.

1144
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,839
I'm Stephanie Mangum. I live in

1145
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:45,680
Deweyville.

1146
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:50,480
So, I just want to uh make us all aware

1147
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,400
of a process that's already in the works

1148
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,079
and things that they've had to go

1149
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,720
through to get to where they're at. And

1150
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:00,720
they're in California. It's Monterey

1151
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:02,640
Park. And I'm just going to read a

1152
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,280
little bit about what they're doing.

1153
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,440
Residents in Monterey Park, California

1154
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,599
became the first in the US to vote on a

1155
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:12,079
permanent ban on data centers on

1156
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:15,280
Tuesday. This was a week ago.

1157
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,079
and early results indicate a resounding

1158
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:21,200
victory for the prohibition.

1159
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,880
While many cities and countries have

1160
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,119
already passed temporary or indefinite

1161
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:27,280
mon moratoriums

1162
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,680
via their local governments, Monterey

1163
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,760
Park would be the first to do so through

1164
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,880
a ballot initiative.

1165
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,119
The ballot measure needs a majority

1166
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:41,359
vote, at least 51% to win. And a week

1167
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:45,680
ago, as of 2 am Pacific time, 86.3

1168
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,680
of more than 7,000 bo voters counted so

1169
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,760
far were in favor of banning data

1170
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,440
centers. 86.3% of the people, which I

1171
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,960
feel is very relative to here.

1172
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,359
While it can take days to finalize

1173
00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:04,079
election results, the stark gap was

1174
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:07,280
enough evidence for Joseé Sanchez, a

1175
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,800
city council member, to claim a

1176
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,359
landslide victory for residents who

1177
00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:14,400
don't want to live near data centers.

1178
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,720
This shows unequivocally that residents

1179
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:18,960
in Monterey Park do not want data

1180
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,800
centers in their communities, Sanchez

1181
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,359
said. We hope that other communities

1182
00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:26,000
will use the model set by residents here

1183
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,800
in Monterey Park as inspiration to stop

1184
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,640
data centers from encroaching in their

1185
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,319
backyards.

1186
00:48:32,319 --> 00:48:34,319
Monterey Park City Council had already

1187
00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:37,520
passed an indefinite moratorium on data

1188
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,720
centers in April.

1189
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:42,960
And then skipping a little, being able

1190
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,200
to go to court, and this is concerning

1191
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,800
anything that has a prior agreement can

1192
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,520
still be taken to court. So being able

1193
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,000
to go to court and say the residents of

1194
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,880
Monterey Park voted to ban data data

1195
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,599
centers is a much better gauge for where

1196
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:05,119
our residents are versus only five city

1197
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:08,319
council members voted for an ordinance,

1198
00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:10,640
said Sanchez.

1199
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,319
So,

1200
00:49:12,319 --> 00:49:15,760
the referendum that was dismissed last I

1201
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,319
heard, they're trying to readress that,

1202
00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:21,680
bring it back into your vote. And this

1203
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,960
is something that you,

1204
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,440
if this place can do this, this can be

1205
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,880
done. We can pass things like this. Even

1206
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,680
if you do have the dark elites

1207
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,319
threatening you, can't knuckle under. You're now

1208
00:49:38,319 --> 00:49:42,160
speaking for not just thousands in the

1209
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,119
box county. It's the environmental

1210
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:46,880
northern Utah. You're speaking for

1211
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:47,599
millions.

1212
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:48,559
>> Times up. Thank you.

1213
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:49,680
>> Help us.

1214
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:56,470
>> Yeah. [applause]

1215
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,624
» Max Hansen.

1216
00:49:58,624 --> 00:50:12,069
[clears throat]

1217
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:13,839
Thank you, commissioners. Uh, Mr.

1218
00:50:13,839 --> 00:50:16,240
Hadfield. My name is Max Hansen. I

1219
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:19,200
reside in Garland, Utah. Uh, I'm a Utah

1220
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,200
resident, a county resident, and and a

1221
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,760
voter here now. Um, even though I own a

1222
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,160
home and other property in Montana. Uh I

1223
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,000
moved here approximately 20 years ago

1224
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,319
and I married a lady from here and I

1225
00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:32,720
chose to raise my family here uh in

1226
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:34,079
spite of the fact that I came from a

1227
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:38,079
largely rural area. Um I liked Boxelder

1228
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:39,280
County because of the friends and

1229
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,000
neighbors I've met here and the and the

1230
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,240
ability that I have to still live in a

1231
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:46,480
community that has a good mix of

1232
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,800
industry, light industry and and

1233
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,240
basically an agricultural economy. Uh in

1234
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:56,559
spite of what some people may think, I'm here to commend both of you, all of

1235
00:50:56,559 --> 00:50:59,520
you gentlemen, uh the county attorney,

1236
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,079
the deputy county attorney, the other

1237
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:04,800
law enforcement officers in this county

1238
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,720
that have taken a lot of uh verbal abuse

1239
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:12,079
and uh written abuse from people that I

1240
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:13,599
don't think understand the implications

1241
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:15,040
of what you folks have been dealing

1242
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,440
with. Um, and it it has to do with the

1243
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,400
Stratus project. Obviously, in my view,

1244
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,480
you folks have been sacrificial lambs

1245
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,400
that have been put on the altar by

1246
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,440
Governor Cox, the Maida board, the

1247
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,040
developer who hatched this plan uh a

1248
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,000
long time ago and then laid it laid it

1249
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,680
in front of you folks with very little

1250
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,000
warning and not enough tools to deal

1251
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,240
with the situation. There have been

1252
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:44,160
other inconsiderate people without a

1253
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,040
full grasp of the facts that eliminated

1254
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,800
the possibility of any reasonable

1255
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,559
discourse in the public meetings we've

1256
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,720
had where residents of this county that

1257
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:54,400
just wanted to find out more information

1258
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,119
didn't have the ability to do so. But in

1259
00:51:57,119 --> 00:51:59,119
my view, the blame for this whole

1260
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:01,280
situation lays at the feet of Governor

1261
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,599
Cox, his staff, the mighta board, and

1262
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:06,720
others that don't have any [applause]

1263
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:08,559
that don't have any respect for the

1264
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:12,400
residents of be of Boxelder County. Um,

1265
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:17,280
they give some they chin music is what I

1266
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,680
call it. They're willing to talk all

1267
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,520
about the respect they have for our

1268
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,359
rural communities and the values and the

1269
00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:24,720
culture that we have in this rural

1270
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,960
community of ours. But when it comes

1271
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,040
right down to the nitty-gritty, I

1272
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,599
question whether or not that's the case.

1273
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:33,760
In my view, you've done your jobs under

1274
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,599
great stress and threat of personal

1275
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:38,079
safety. The fact that you folks have had

1276
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,079
to have law enforcement officers at your

1277
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:42,079
homes to protect you and that law

1278
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:43,760
enforcement officers have been put at

1279
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,599
risk and other emergency personnel have

1280
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:46,960
been put at risk because of

1281
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,119
inconsiderate people that are not even

1282
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:52,160
residents of this county is inexcusable.

1283
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,240
uh the governors of there's they talk

1284
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:56,880
about you know preserving our quality of

1285
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,359
life uh but in my view they've failed

1286
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:01,520
miserably and they've diverted the

1287
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,680
entire downside of this whole project to

1288
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,359
the people of Boxelder County and

1289
00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:08,000
especially its elected officials and I

1290
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,240
again commend you for your dedication

1291
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:12,480
and service to the residents of Boxelder

1292
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:18,870
County. Thank you very much, [applause]

1293
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:28,390
» Bridget Cotm.

1294
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,920
Hey. Uh, I'm Bridget Cotm. I have lived

1295
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,920
in Boxelder County in Brigham City for

1296
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,559
over 30 years of my life. From the very

1297
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:38,160
beginning of this whole fiasco, you have

1298
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,280
been condescending and outright

1299
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,720
disrespectful to the very people who

1300
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:42,720
voted you in. when you yelled at

1301
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:45,760
residents for hell's sakes grow up then

1302
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,559
left the room you broke public trust you

1303
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:50,559
at the very least you owe all of us an

1304
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:52,319
apology for that behavior if and if

1305
00:53:52,319 --> 00:53:53,680
there has been one I haven't seen or

1306
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,359
heard it and now now you are bringing up

1307
00:53:57,359 --> 00:53:59,040
a moratorium on future data centers

1308
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,520
instead of before when there could have

1309
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,920
been a chance to save this place

1310
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,599
>> did you not expect the push back we gave

1311
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:07,839
you think that we would just let these

1312
00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:09,119
data centers roll in here and destroy

1313
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:10,800
our way of life our resources and our

1314
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,960
water without a second thought as we see

1315
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,480
online what the data centers are doing

1316
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,720
to our neighbors in other states. Why

1317
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:18,160
didn't you pass a moratorium on data

1318
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,079
centers before all of this happened? If

1319
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:21,839
you had taken a responsible pause to

1320
00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:23,280
study the impacts on our forest

1321
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,160
community study the if you had taken a

1322
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,440
responsible pause to study the impacts

1323
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,960
on our community first, the residents

1324
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,400
would have respected you a hell of a lot

1325
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,880
more than we do now. A moratorium is the

1326
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,559
right tool, but it is being used here as

1327
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:36,240
a reactive damage control mechanism

1328
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:37,760
because you underestimated the people in

1329
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,640
this room. [applause]

1330
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,240
I hope you've learned a lot of valuable

1331
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:43,280
lessons throughout this whole

1332
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,280
experience.

1333
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,119
Hopefully, this moratorium vote tonight

1334
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:48,480
will be the first step in actually

1335
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,160
listening to your constituents, fixing

1336
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,599
our land use codes, and ensuring that

1337
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,200
Boxelder County's resources are never

1338
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,359
jeopardized like this again. At this

1339
00:54:55,359 --> 00:54:57,440
point, we are both mad and disappointed.

1340
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:58,640
Thank you.

1341
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,720
>> Thank you, [applause]

1342
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:13,109
Carlos Martinez.

1343
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:21,270
» Okay. Farah.

1344
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,359
» Hello, commissioners. My name is Farah

1345
00:55:23,359 --> 00:55:25,520
Ply. I'm a Tremont resident and most

1346
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,079
importantly, I'm a mother. I don't want

1347
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:30,000
to be standing. I I don't want to be

1348
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,480
sitting here, but it's important that my

1349
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,960
girls see and understand that our voices

1350
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,800
matter and that they should be used for

1351
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,599
good. I've taught them not to blindly

1352
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:41,839
follow authority, not to accept

1353
00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:43,599
something to be true simply because

1354
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:45,440
someone in a position of power says that

1355
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,520
it is. I've taught them to ask

1356
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,440
questions, do their own research, think

1357
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,440
critically, form their own opinions, and

1358
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,319
never allow anyone to silence them. My

1359
00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:56,240
oldest daughter is 11. She's actually

1360
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:58,799
the one who educated me about AI. She

1361
00:55:58,799 --> 00:56:00,240
introduced me to the conversations

1362
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:02,000
surrounding it, encouraged me to learn

1363
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,920
more, and sparked many of the questions

1364
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,680
surrounding the Strato Status Center

1365
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,799
that you've approved. These kids are my

1366
00:56:08,799 --> 00:56:10,480
driving force, and they may not

1367
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,160
completely understand it now, but I want

1368
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,839
them to remember that their mother stood

1369
00:56:13,839 --> 00:56:16,000
alongside many others in this community

1370
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,240
and fought for their future. With this

1371
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:20,079
data center, we've asked questions

1372
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,000
repeatedly, and we still don't have the

1373
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,040
answers that our community deserve. We

1374
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,359
discuss we're discussing a project that

1375
00:56:27,359 --> 00:56:29,599
could permanently shape the state that

1376
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:32,000
these children grow up in. The air they

1377
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,000
breathe, the water they depend on, the

1378
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,680
future of the Great Salt Lake and the

1379
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,760
communities connected to it. We have

1380
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,520
seen the repercussions of these data

1381
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,599
centers, and the cons outweigh the pros

1382
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:43,119
tfold.

1383
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:45,119
The stakes are way too high not to fight

1384
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,280
against this. It is my responsibility as

1385
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,760
a mother to sit here today and oppose a

1386
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,599
decision that so many residents believe

1387
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:53,280
was made without sufficient studies,

1388
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,760
transparency, or public input. I

1389
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,280
understand that you were placed in a

1390
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,440
difficult position.

1391
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,280
But I will never believe that you had no

1392
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,359
choice. You always had a choice. And if

1393
00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:04,880
you had chosen to stand with the people

1394
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,880
that you represent, this community would

1395
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,240
have stood with you and we could have

1396
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,720
fought it together. Instead, we have

1397
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:12,880
been dismissed repeatedly, and now it's

1398
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,599
time. And now it's become the public

1399
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:17,760
representatives versus the public, and

1400
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,400
we never wanted that. I've heard excuse

1401
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,400
after excuse and zero accountability,

1402
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,160
which includes blaming protesters who

1403
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,319
had every right to be upset and acting

1404
00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:28,400
like you owe us nothing after the fact

1405
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,000
when your job is quite literally to

1406
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,119
serve the public.

1407
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:32,319
>> Yes, [applause]

1408
00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:34,799
>> a moratorum is a great step forward, but

1409
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:36,880
these conversations should have happened

1410
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,559
before approvals were granted, not

1411
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:39,599
after.

1412
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:41,680
The purpose of a moratorum is to create

1413
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,160
space for study, analysis, transparency,

1414
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,000
and public input before decisions are

1415
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,920
made. Those are the very things this

1416
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,440
community was asking for from the

1417
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,440
beginning. The ball was dropped in a

1418
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,119
major way. And if this thing moves

1419
00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:55,359
forward, it will be at the detriment to

1420
00:57:55,359 --> 00:57:57,200
everybody here. Our children will

1421
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:58,720
remember who fought for them and who

1422
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,520
didn't. To my girls and all of our kids,

1423
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,680
your voice matters. Ask questions. Think

1424
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,200
for yourself. Stand up when something

1425
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,599
isn't right, even if your voice shakes.

1426
00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:10,160
and commissioners, there is still time

1427
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,960
to do better moving forward and you have

1428
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:19,990
a voice, too. Thanks, [applause]

1429
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:31,430
» Cheryl Compton.

1430
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,119
Commissioners, thank you for your time.

1431
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:39,440
I'm Cheryl Compton. I am from Brigham City and you've heard a lot

1432
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,760
about the data center water and power

1433
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,920
demands and the concerns about that that

1434
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,799
are very valid and warrant serious

1435
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:48,960
investigation. But there's another

1436
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,440
threat uh that to my knowledge has not

1437
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,839
been brought to this council. It's

1438
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:57,119
invisible to the eye but very real and I

1439
00:58:57,119 --> 00:58:59,440
believe it may ultimately pose a greater

1440
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,200
risk to the health of Boxelder County

1441
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,720
residents than the water question. That

1442
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,119
threat is idiopathic environmental

1443
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:08,880
intolerance attributed to

1444
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,000
electromagnetic fields or in other words

1445
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,200
frequency poisoning. I'm a doctor of

1446
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,200
metaphysics and for the last 17 years

1447
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,359
I've worked with clients on mental and

1448
00:59:19,359 --> 00:59:22,400
emotional issues that often cause

1449
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,880
physical problems in the body. In the

1450
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,280
recent years, an increasing number of

1451
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,839
them have exhibited symptoms that

1452
00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:32,000
definitively point towards frequency

1453
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,079
poisoning. These symptoms include

1454
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:37,440
anxiety, chronic pain, sleep disruption,

1455
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,119
fatigue, hormonal diseases, and

1456
00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:41,280
autoimmune disorders.

1457
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,000
There are innumerable scientific studies

1458
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,599
supporting the fact that these are not

1459
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:48,240
theoretical harms but widespread

1460
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,799
problems that people are experiencing.

1461
00:59:50,799 --> 00:59:53,280
People are not connecting their symptoms

1462
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,440
to the invisible disruptive frequencies

1463
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,799
that are now all around us. Large scale

1464
00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:00,880
data centers like the one proposed in

1465
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,440
our county are significant continuous

1466
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,599
emitters of the radio frequencies and

1467
01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:08,400
microwave radiation I'm describing. In

1468
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,799
addition, their industrial cooling

1469
01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:13,839
systems generate constant low frequency

1470
01:00:13,839 --> 01:00:16,559
acoustic output and in some cases that

1471
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:19,839
is infrasound. Um, and that has its own

1472
01:00:19,839 --> 01:00:21,440
documented repercussions on the

1473
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,079
autonomic nervous system. These have no

1474
01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:26,480
limit as far as how far they can travel.

1475
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,760
So, putting them in the corner of the

1476
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,640
county won't help much. The data centers

1477
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,440
adhere to FCC exposure guidelines, but

1478
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,559
these were set in 1996.

1479
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:38,640
They don't take into account what

1480
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,960
chronic low-level long-term exposure of

1481
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,599
detrimental waveforms does to the human

1482
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:48,079
nervous system, the um immune system and

1483
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:50,960
the um endocrine system.

1484
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,680
We don't want to be the guinea pigs to

1485
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,319
find out what that is or we don't want

1486
01:00:56,319 --> 01:00:59,280
the surveillance aspect that Diana Hardy

1487
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,760
mentioned either. This data center was

1488
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,760
imposed on this county and you agreed to

1489
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,520
a seat at the table in order to have

1490
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,440
some influence over what seemed

1491
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,720
inevitable with this moratorum. Use that

1492
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,920
influence. Be the heroes. Conduct a

1493
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,880
genuine independent investigation on

1494
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,200
those frequencies.

1495
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,280
If the investigation reveals what I

1496
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,599
believe it will about the health and

1497
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:26,160
environmental cost of this facility, it

1498
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,480
will give this county the opportunity to

1499
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,720
say no to it.

1500
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,599
keep every option open, including that

1501
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:37,119
of stopping this project entirely. Thank

1502
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:39,482
you,

1503
01:01:39,482 --> 01:01:44,390
[applause]

1504
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:55,990
» Christine Nelson.

1505
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,839
» Thank you, commissioners, for giving us

1506
01:01:57,839 --> 01:01:59,680
an opportunity to speak tonight. My name

1507
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:04,480
is Christine Nelson. I'm a resident of Brigham City. First off, I want to

1508
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,400
let you know how sorry I am that you've

1509
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,240
experienced threats and vandalism over

1510
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,000
the Stratus project. That is not okay. I

1511
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,680
want to recognize that you were set up

1512
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,319
to take the public fall over this

1513
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:19,760
project and that wasn't fair. I want to

1514
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,119
thank you for the motion tonight to

1515
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:22,640
remove the county from the inland port.

1516
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,960
Moving away from these questionable

1517
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,280
government corporate development areas

1518
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,880
is a step in the right direction.

1519
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,960
I recognize that the moratorium on data

1520
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,359
centers shows that you see that the

1521
01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:37,680
stratus project caught the commission

1522
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,109
unprepared.

1523
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:43,280
I hope that you recognize that you

1524
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,799
represented the people of Boxelder

1525
01:02:44,799 --> 01:02:47,599
poorly in this instance. You could and

1526
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:49,359
should have pushed for studies to be

1527
01:02:49,359 --> 01:02:51,599
completed before entering into an

1528
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:54,000
agreement with Maida. You could and

1529
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,680
should have investigated Maida itself

1530
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,760
more thoroughly before you made a deal

1531
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,000
with the devil. You could and should

1532
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,520
have created an opportunity for

1533
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,839
residents to speak out on the project.

1534
01:03:03,839 --> 01:03:05,680
You could and should have pressed for a

1535
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,400
better financial package, especially for

1536
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,160
our schools.

1537
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,319
The impacts of this project will be

1538
01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:15,680
farreaching. our land, our air, our

1539
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,319
water, our wildlife, our health, our

1540
01:03:18,319 --> 01:03:22,640
very way of life. We can't eat data. We

1541
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:27,200
can't breathe data. We can't drink data.

1542
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,599
I hope that moving forward, you will do

1543
01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:31,839
everything in the county's power to

1544
01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:35,039
restrict this project. Make this as

1545
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:38,400
difficult as possible for Maida.

1546
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,799
Please represent the citizens who voted

1547
01:03:40,799 --> 01:03:42,640
for you and stand as a roadblock in the

1548
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,200
way of a project that will forever alter

1549
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,174
our way of life. Thank you,

1550
01:03:49,174 --> 01:03:52,230
[applause]

1551
01:03:52,240 --> 01:04:03,750
» Daryl W.

1552
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,440
Good evening, commissioners. My name is

1553
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,200
Carolyn Lindseay and I am a resident of

1554
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,520
Boxelder County. I live in Honeyville.

1555
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,280
I'm here tonight to offer my support of

1556
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,319
ordinance 654, the moratorium on data

1557
01:04:14,319 --> 01:04:16,160
centers, but I have two concerns that I

1558
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,400
want to put on record. First, 6 months

1559
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,319
is not enough. Extend it to at least 12.

1560
01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:24,400
Second, the residents of this county

1561
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,319
have been very clear. We've shown up.

1562
01:04:26,319 --> 01:04:28,079
We've spoken. We've been loud. And we've

1563
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:30,160
been very clear. The message has been

1564
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,480
consistent. We do not want data centers.

1565
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,760
Period. I asked I asked the commission

1566
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,079
to use this moratorium period to build a

1567
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:40,720
framework that genuinely reflects what

1568
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,720
this community wants. That means

1569
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,119
amending the general plan to explicitly

1570
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,119
identify data centers as incompatible

1571
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:49,119
with Box Center County's rural

1572
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:51,680
character, agricultural land, and water

1573
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,480
conservation goals. It means crafting

1574
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,079
sighting requirements, water

1575
01:04:56,079 --> 01:04:58,640
availability, grid capacity setbacks

1576
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,640
that refle reflect the real constraints

1577
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,559
of this county. And it means creating

1578
01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:04,319
zoning classifications that don't just

1579
01:05:04,319 --> 01:05:06,319
regulate these facilities, but make it

1580
01:05:06,319 --> 01:05:08,480
clear that this county is simply not an

1581
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,960
appropriate place for them. That's not a

1582
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,440
ban. That's honest land land use

1583
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,760
planning and and it's exactly what a

1584
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,200
moratorium is for. So

1585
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,280
make the moratorium 12 months and use

1586
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,559
that time to build something that

1587
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:24,240
actually reflects the will of the people

1588
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:28,080
who live here. Thank you. Thank you.

1589
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,829
[applause]

1590
01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:38,390
Dave Hogard.

1591
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,799
» Good evening. Thank you for your time,

1592
01:05:40,799 --> 01:05:42,319
commissioners. It's my pleasure to be

1593
01:05:42,319 --> 01:05:44,079
here. My name is Dave Hoggard. I'm a

1594
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:46,799
resident of Honeyville. Um, I'm a post

1595
01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:50,079
of the data center, yada yada yada. Uh,

1596
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:52,720
that's not why I'm here to speak, okay?

1597
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,440
I'm here to tell you how much I admire

1598
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,000
the three of you for standing up to your

1599
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,640
oath and supporting the constitutional

1600
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,960
rights of those people that own that

1601
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,920
property to sell that property. We hear

1602
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,839
all kinds of jibberjabber on social

1603
01:06:07,839 --> 01:06:10,480
media and the newspaper about what

1604
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,400
property rights the constitution

1605
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,039
guarantees and there's really only

1606
01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:19,200
three, right? We don't have to put the

1607
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,440
government forces on our property at our

1608
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,440
expense. government can't take our land

1609
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,680
without compensation.

1610
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,440
We can buy and we can sell land, right?

1611
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,920
That's it. You guys voted to let those

1612
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,440
people sell their property, which is

1613
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,400
your constitutional obligation. And I so

1614
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,440
admire that. So many people seem to not

1615
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,839
understand what the oath is that you

1616
01:06:41,839 --> 01:06:43,680
took. Now, you'll have people say you

1617
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,119
don't support your oath because you do

1618
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:47,280
zoning. Supreme Court who gets to

1619
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,440
interpret the Constitution said zoning's

1620
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,039
okay. Not going to get into that whole

1621
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:54,000
thing, but I admire you gentlemen for

1622
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,640
your support. Uh, in my opinion, saving

1623
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,160
us, the county all kinds of money with

1624
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,160
lawsuits because as soon as you take

1625
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:05,760
away my constitutional right to sell the

1626
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,000
property, I'll take you to court and the

1627
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,680
county will pay for that and the county

1628
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,400
would have lost. So, I admire you. Thank

1629
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,039
you for your service.

1630
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:22,390
No to moratoriums. When you have a say,

1631
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:40,549
Michael Smith.

1632
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:43,440
» You guys look tired. You guys as tired

1633
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,920
as you look. I feel pretty tired. I got

1634
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,960
off work six o'clock this morning.

1635
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,480
I don't know what to say here because

1636
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,599
it's all been said.

1637
01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:55,920
I know that this matters very much to

1638
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:00,686
our future.

1639
01:08:00,696 --> 01:08:04,950
[sighs]

1640
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,240
I would applaud you for the moratorum

1641
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,200
except if I'm not mistaken the obvious

1642
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,960
elephant in the room is that it has no

1643
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,119
effect on this project that we all care

1644
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:16,640
about.

1645
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,880
This is after the fact too little too

1646
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,480
late. It's nice to pave the way to a

1647
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:27,440
moratorum for the future so that we have

1648
01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:31,040
time to analyze the impacts of the

1649
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,120
effects of any future data centers. But

1650
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,359
by damn, we had that time before, didn't

1651
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:38,239
we? We had that opportunity before,

1652
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:41,600
didn't we? Had the opportunity to

1653
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,319
examine the effects of this.

1654
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:45,839
Let's not pretend that during this

1655
01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:47,600
moratorum we're going to do the

1656
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,279
environmental impact studies and the

1657
01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:52,080
things that were already bypassed.

1658
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,480
We're already well past that. So this

1659
01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:58,400
mortorium is nothing but plation.

1660
01:08:58,400 --> 01:08:59,839
You could have used the time that you

1661
01:08:59,839 --> 01:09:02,480
had before. And it's nice to have a

1662
01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:04,799
lawyer here to say that everything was

1663
01:09:04,799 --> 01:09:08,817
done accurate as far as the meetings go,

1664
01:09:08,817 --> 01:09:11,359
[snorts] but our county money and your

1665
01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:14,640
time, your time and our county money was

1666
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:19,040
committed towards the analysis

1667
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,239
and approval and facilitating this

1668
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:24,080
project

1669
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:28,480
when none of us heard about it. So,

1670
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:31,040
I can see that the attorney that was

1671
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,960
also part of that money that was laid

1672
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,640
out would be here to say that you did it

1673
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,319
all right. And I want to know that you

1674
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:40,080
did because, you know, we can't know any

1675
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:44,480
different. But we're not going to sleep.

1676
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:46,159
We're not going to stop looking at this

1677
01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:48,799
and this isn't over.

1678
01:09:48,799 --> 01:09:51,440
I just would ask again like so many here

1679
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:54,880
have appealed to you guys. I never ever

1680
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,239
came to these meeting. I've never been

1681
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:57,840
to one before. Like I told you last

1682
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,480
time, May the 4th, I I didn't even know

1683
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:02,159
what was going on. And I sure didn't

1684
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:04,320
show up to make you guys our enemies.

1685
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,520
You should be our allies in this.

1686
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:08,960
You should be with us in this and

1687
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,719
hearing this now. And despite what you

1688
01:10:10,719 --> 01:10:12,640
were blindsided with and what agreements

1689
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,360
were made, I believe very much that you

1690
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,360
did it believing that it was in the best

1691
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,360
interest and the mandate and the will of

1692
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,760
the people. But you know that isn't the

1693
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,760
case now.

1694
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,920
there's we're going to do what we can on

1695
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,360
our own, but as many others have said, I

1696
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:30,800
think we would all rather do this in

1697
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,440
partnership with you guys. And I thank

1698
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:35,520
you again for your time and your service

1699
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,440
and all that you do. And it is absolute

1700
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:39,760
that you put up with any kind

1701
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:44,000
of, you know, direct attacks, anything

1702
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,080
uh threats and any of that kind of stuff

1703
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,600
because that's not the people that we

1704
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,159
are. But we do care about protecting our

1705
01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:53,199
future and this beautiful place that we

1706
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:55,040
live in for our children. Thank you.

1707
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,549
>> Thank you.

1708
01:10:57,549 --> 01:11:02,229
[applause]

1709
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:07,750
» Christine Lewis.

1710
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:08,640
» What was your name?

1711
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:18,310
>> Christine Lewis.

1712
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,880
Hi, thank you for hearing me today. My

1713
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,600
name is Christine Lewis and I am I over

1714
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,920
the last 40 years have lived in Wever

1715
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,320
County, Davis County, and Boxelder

1716
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,520
County. I own a home. I have three adult

1717
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,159
children. I have two grandchildren. I

1718
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:36,960
have many concerns, including what this

1719
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,280
data center would do to the fact that my

1720
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,840
children can't buy homes. They're priced

1721
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,000
out of the market. I bought a house at

1722
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,520
18.

1723
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,360
My children are in their 20s and still

1724
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,520
can't afford a home. What will this data

1725
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,840
center do to the economy? What will this

1726
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,520
data center do to the water? I've been

1727
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,080
told I shouldn't water my lawn. I've

1728
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,159
been told that there is a drought and

1729
01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:00,719
that I should allow my grass to die.

1730
01:12:00,719 --> 01:12:02,239
What will this data center do to our

1731
01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:03,920
water?

1732
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,440
I've been told that I should limit my

1733
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:07,600
electricity. I get a letter every month,

1734
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,000
an email every month comparing how much

1735
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,960
electricity I used to my neighbors.

1736
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,480
letting me know that I need to be a

1737
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:16,480
conscious citizen and be aware of the

1738
01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:18,880
electricity that I use.

1739
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,000
Yet, we're looking at a data center that

1740
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,000
I don't know the data, but I know what

1741
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,880
I've heard. It will use more electricity

1742
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,360
than all of us combined.

1743
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,159
And this isn't a Boxelder County issue.

1744
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:34,960
This is a northern Utah issue. This will

1745
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,280
impact Weber County. This will impact

1746
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,080
Cash Valley County. This will impact a

1747
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,159
lot of people.

1748
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:44,800
For me, raising my children, it was

1749
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,239
important to me that I taught my

1750
01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:47,840
children to stand up for what was right,

1751
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,800
even when it was hard. And I know what

1752
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,199
you guys are going through is hard. But

1753
01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:55,440
you were appointed to be our leaders.

1754
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:57,600
And sometimes leaders have to stand even

1755
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,239
when it's hard. The people in this room

1756
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:02,159
are showing you that this is not what we

1757
01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:04,960
want.

1758
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,199
I have to get a permit if I want to do

1759
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:09,520
certain things with the property I own.

1760
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,280
If I want to put a shed in my backyard,

1761
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,239
it has to be approved.

1762
01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:16,480
Why are we not pushing back? Why are we

1763
01:13:16,480 --> 01:13:18,000
not standing up for what the people

1764
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,480
want?

1765
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:22,640
I have friends in Weber County, Davis

1766
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,840
County, Cash Valley, this whole area. I

1767
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,280
haven't spoken to a single person that

1768
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,080
is okay with this.

1769
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,080
We need you to be their voice. We need

1770
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,800
you to stand up even if it's hard. We

1771
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,600
will support you. We need you to support

1772
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,840
us.

1773
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,199
Thank you.

1774
01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:45,750
>> Thank you [applause]

1775
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:57,030
Sanders.

1776
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:01,669
» Okay,

1777
01:14:01,679 --> 01:14:07,830
» you can probably take this one off.

1778
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:12,390
I think that's the one.

1779
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,679
» That one's wired. I don't

1780
01:14:15,679 --> 01:14:19,936
>> think

1781
01:14:19,946 --> 01:14:51,990
[clears throat]

1782
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,560
Can everyone hear me? Ah,

1783
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,960
>> my name is Aurelia Saunders and I would

1784
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,080
like to ask, did you know that in 1894

1785
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,880
Utah was the first state to pass an

1786
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,080
envir environmental protection law? When

1787
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,719
Utah was not even yet a state, it was

1788
01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:10,719
still a territory.

1789
01:15:10,719 --> 01:15:12,560
We have long believed in being an

1790
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,120
industrious people in Utah. However,

1791
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,640
being industrious and industry are not

1792
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,719
the same thing.

1793
01:15:20,719 --> 01:15:23,280
We are a hardworking state with strong

1794
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,080
agricultural roots. The law that was

1795
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,040
passed, the first of its kind, was to

1796
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,440
protect the hardworking industrious

1797
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:34,560
farmers and ranchers, the people of the

1798
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,239
state from modern industry which was

1799
01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:41,280
polluting and damaging the land. We have

1800
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,320
claimed stewardship over.

1801
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,960
What happened?

1802
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,440
The words of being industrious,

1803
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:52,239
practicing conservation and stewardship

1804
01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:55,600
are still spoken, but their meaning has

1805
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,920
been lost.

1806
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,239
This moratorum sounds like too little

1807
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:02,880
too late. As was said earlier,

1808
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,719
it's a start, but you're pushing the

1809
01:16:04,719 --> 01:16:06,880
barn door closed after the horses are

1810
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,960
gone. or are you planning to approve

1811
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:13,990
more data centers?

1812
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,320
If it can't find a way to address the

1813
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,800
current data center,

1814
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:22,000
how can we fix the problem?

1815
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,760
And I also want to know where Scott

1816
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,640
Sandall is. What is his role in this

1817
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,640
data center? He is our Senate

1818
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,280
representative. As has been said, we

1819
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,120
know that you were set up to be the fall

1820
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,360
guys. Yes, you could have handled the

1821
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,520
situation much better. You could not

1822
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:42,310
have demeaned the people of Boxelder.

1823
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,040
» But where is Sandal?

1824
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,040
I know he has been buying land out in

1825
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,880
that area for a couple years.

1826
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,440
So, what is his part in this as our

1827
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:57,148
representative in the Senate? Thank you.

1828
01:16:57,148 --> 01:16:59,120
[applause]

1829
01:16:59,120 --> 01:16:59,600
And

1830
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,640
>> my name is Ourelia Saunders again.

1831
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,400
>> Thank you.

1832
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:16,950
Andy Johnson.

1833
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,960
» Good evening, gentlemen. Um, Andy

1834
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:23,120
Johnson here. Um, I don't live in

1835
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,480
Boxeller County. Um, I do have some

1836
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:28,960
interests in some uh in a ski resort

1837
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,159
that will be very negatively affected by

1838
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:34,159
what I understand as the effect of the

1839
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:36,640
data centers and I'm concerned about

1840
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,000
that. is concerned about uh the

1841
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,880
watershed. Um the uh you know you you

1842
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,480
raise the nighttime temperature from

1843
01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:50,000
what I understand 20 plus degrees and

1844
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:54,320
that has a profound effect on the entire

1845
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,640
ecosystem that we have here in the

1846
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,080
northern part of the state. Um, you

1847
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,920
know, I remember a time when when men

1848
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,280
were men and women were women. When uh

1849
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,960
when a man's word was was his bond, when

1850
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,760
law enforcement were peace officers,

1851
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,040
and when public servants were considered

1852
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:19,040
um public servants and not leaders. Um

1853
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,000
you all have taken oaths of office. uh I

1854
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:27,920
accept your oath of office and uh would ask you to reconsider what you've

1855
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,640
already done. If you look at a contract,

1856
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,199
any valid contract requires full

1857
01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:35,760
disclosure. If there's any kind of fraud

1858
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,520
or lack of full disclosure with that

1859
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,320
contract, that contract's null and void.

1860
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,560
So, if you've made agreements with Maida

1861
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,120
or some of these other organizations

1862
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:49,840
that are based on false information or

1863
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,920
um lack of full disclosure, those

1864
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,400
contracts are void. You have your out

1865
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:58,320
there. Um uh you have an opportunity to

1866
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,400
reverse this and you should. It's

1867
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,360
evident from my observations that the

1868
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,000
people in this room, the vast majority

1869
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,159
of them are here because they do not

1870
01:19:08,159 --> 01:19:11,360
want this. Um there are a lot of farmers

1871
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:15,520
up in Cash Valley where I'm from that um

1872
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,800
are very concerned about rainfall. Um

1873
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,920
you raise the temperature uh which a

1874
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,480
data center would do and you're not

1875
01:19:24,480 --> 01:19:26,640
going to get any rain here. I have

1876
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,320
family down in Phoenix and Phoenix

1877
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,679
doesn't get rain like it used to

1878
01:19:29,679 --> 01:19:32,480
anymore. you've got all these massive uh

1879
01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:34,960
solar collectors and people moving in

1880
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,840
and the heat arising from the city makes

1881
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,480
the rain go everywhere but in the city.

1882
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:41,840
Uh that's the kind of thing that you're

1883
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,080
going to have here with that many acres

1884
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,640
of heat generating

1885
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,280
um microprocessors.

1886
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,719
The other thing that's very very

1887
01:19:50,719 --> 01:19:52,719
concerning is is the water. It's not

1888
01:19:52,719 --> 01:19:55,280
just taking water in and putting water

1889
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,320
back out. You've got to cool it. So that

1890
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,920
affects the the ground as well. But you

1891
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,560
and I all know that that just look at

1892
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,280
your sink after leaving it unclean for a

1893
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,040
month and you'll see all the hard water

1894
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,360
deposits on your sink. They have to put

1895
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,800
chemistry into that water to keep their

1896
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,480
systems from clogging up and they have

1897
01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:18,960
to put antifungals and whatever in the

1898
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,560
water to u eliminate the uh the buildup

1899
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:29,199
of of other uh microbes. So where do those chemicals go? Do they go

1900
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:30,719
back into the water system to be

1901
01:20:30,719 --> 01:20:32,560
consumed by the the general public and

1902
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,120
the aquifers? And what effect does all

1903
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,440
this have on the animals? There are so

1904
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:39,360
many unanswered questions. And I think

1905
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:43,600
that that we need to take a step back.

1906
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,920
You you have a duty to the people.

1907
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,080
That's your oath. That's you know I hate

1908
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,280
to get into basic basic civics. I'm out.

1909
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,320
I'm sorry. Thank you.

1910
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:53,920
>> I hope you give more time to people.

1911
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:54,320
Thank you.

1912
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:55,571
>> Thank you.

1913
01:20:55,571 --> 01:21:00,390
>> [applause]

1914
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,776
» Nate Honor.

1915
01:21:02,776 --> 01:21:09,990
[snorts]

1916
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,000
» What's up, gentlemen? My name is Nate

1917
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,000
Warner. I've uh lived here for a long

1918
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,800
time. I think you guys both know my dad,

1919
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,040
which is fun. Um I have a I feel like I

1920
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,440
have a pretty unique perspective. Um, I

1921
01:21:23,440 --> 01:21:26,159
work in IT. I've worked in IT my entire

1922
01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:29,120
life, like entire adult life. Um, worked

1923
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,800
in data centers, both adult jobs. Um,

1924
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,040
know kind of like what goes into this

1925
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,920
kind of stuff. Uh, normal data centers

1926
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,320
is one thing. AI data centers is a

1927
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:41,360
completely different thing. We just

1928
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,120
recently installed some AI servers into

1929
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,960
our data center.

1930
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:48,560
um they're like they're worried that

1931
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,480
like fan cooling is no longer going to

1932
01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:53,600
be what we need anymore. Like at my

1933
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,560
entire University of Utah Healthcare,

1934
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,320
like we're we're worried about fans not

1935
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,159
doing the job for a specific two

1936
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:03,120
servers, right? It's like half of a

1937
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:08,400
block. It's not even that big. And this project is encompassing 10,000

1938
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,239
acres. And I understand that that's not

1939
01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:11,760
going to be just simple buildings. It's

1940
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,280
going to be the entire property line at

1941
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:17,600
this point. But I think that with my

1942
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,199
perspective,

1943
01:22:19,199 --> 01:22:23,040
a lot of people with like simply saying,

1944
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,480
"Hey, let's do this because this is

1945
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:26,880
going to bring in $100 million." It's

1946
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,800
not going to really do much for the

1947
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,639
people of Boxiller County if we can't

1948
01:22:30,639 --> 01:22:34,239
use that money if Utah is uninhabitable,

1949
01:22:34,239 --> 01:22:38,639
right? Like we're we're we're

1950
01:22:38,639 --> 01:22:40,800
Excuse me. [clears throat]

1951
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,800
I'm I'm I've heard this so many times.

1952
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,639
thoughts and prayers, which is complete

1953
01:22:44,639 --> 01:22:47,840
okay? Like I'm I'm a very

1954
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,360
spiritual person and I know you guys are

1955
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,560
probably religious as well. Um I'm all

1956
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,840
for that, right? But we need action.

1957
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,679
Like we need to actually take steps to

1958
01:22:57,679 --> 01:23:00,719
save Utah. We need to do what we need to

1959
01:23:00,719 --> 01:23:03,520
do to make sure that the Great Salt Lake

1960
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,120
still sticks around because that

1961
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,000
provides us snowfall, provides us rain,

1962
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,600
it helps with everything that we need

1963
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,800
here. if we have no water in the Great

1964
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,520
Salt Lake and the dust is blowing and

1965
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,920
people can no longer live here and oh

1966
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,440
cool but I have $100 million right so I

1967
01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:23,840
think I think this whole yeah let's do a

1968
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,000
moratorum that's great but we really

1969
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,600
need to say instead of simply putting in

1970
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,120
additional guardrails in place we need

1971
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,159
to say is it going to be guardrails or

1972
01:23:34,159 --> 01:23:38,320
no what's the actual best plan for us

1973
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,199
I've heard people say Um, this isn't

1974
01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:42,800
only affecting us. It's like the entire

1975
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,480
state of Utah. It's Nevada. It's

1976
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:47,280
southern Idaho. Like, it's a regional

1977
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,360
thing. This is a Inner Mountain West

1978
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,080
situation. No longer just Boxill County.

1979
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,120
Um, May 4th, interesting enough,

1980
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:56,800
interestingly enough, I sat next to a

1981
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,719
woman who said, I think she was in her

1982
01:23:58,719 --> 01:24:00,480
70s, she said around 50 years ago, they

1983
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:01,920
used to pump data out of the Great Salt

1984
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,719
Lake because there was so much. where am

1985
01:24:04,719 --> 01:24:07,360
I going to be in 50 years telling

1986
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,080
whoever I'm related to what happened

1987
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:11,920
back in my day? Like we tried to stop

1988
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:15,360
it, but people didn't listen because uh

1989
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:16,639
the money makers of the world, the

1990
01:24:16,639 --> 01:24:17,760
billionaires, just wanted to get more

1991
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,199
rich and they don't care about who they

1992
01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:19,760
step on.

1993
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:20,159
>> Yeah.

1994
01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:23,360
>> So, I think I think we just need to take

1995
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,880
a massive step back. Um

1996
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,400
and I mean, I've talked to my dad about

1997
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,159
you guys. He worked with you. I think

1998
01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:32,159
you were both police officers at one

1999
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:34,000
point. He said, um, I was like, "Hey,

2000
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,600
where do I need to go take take my car

2001
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,840
to get replaced?" He said, "Go to Berts.

2002
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:42,080
I know the guy." Like, I want you guys

2003
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,480
to be the people I've heard of instead

2004
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:46,560
of simply saying

2005
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,920
>> yes or no or no was the worst thing that

2006
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,440
we could have. No was the worst thing

2007
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:52,480
that we could have said. I think you

2008
01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:53,600
said that in the newspaper the other

2009
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,280
day. I think it's one of those things

2010
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,400
that we need to look at what's right and

2011
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,440
what's wrong, what's ethical and moral

2012
01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:04,000
instead of how much money can we make

2013
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,320
versus

2014
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,400
X. So, thanks guys.

2015
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:14,470
>> Thank you. [applause]

2016
01:25:14,480 --> 01:25:16,080
» Okay, I hope I don't botch this one.

2017
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,400
Julie

2018
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,159
>> Quinland,

2019
01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:21,199
>> is it Quinnland?

2020
01:25:21,199 --> 01:25:23,440
>> Quinnland. Holy cow. I didn't write it

2021
01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:26,743
very well. [laughter]

2022
01:25:26,743 --> 01:25:34,880
[clears throat] and cough]

2023
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,320
My name is Julie Quinnland and nobody's

2024
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,560
talked yet specifically about Hansel

2025
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,639
Valley. I have talked to a couple of

2026
01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:47,600
ranchers and Hansel Valley is the

2027
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:52,080
perfect winter rangeand for cattle. You

2028
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:55,760
know, it you have your summer range and

2029
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,360
then they have this winter range. You

2030
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,000
don't even need alalfa for those cattle

2031
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,639
out there. They can survive on a good

2032
01:26:02,639 --> 01:26:04,400
year. Once in a while there might be a

2033
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,159
bad year where they have to grow alalfa,

2034
01:26:06,159 --> 01:26:09,199
but it's this perfect rangeand.

2035
01:26:09,199 --> 01:26:13,760
And why would we want to change that? Um

2036
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,120
I have also heard from people that they

2037
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,719
are selling the land because it is not

2038
01:26:20,719 --> 01:26:22,719
zoned

2039
01:26:22,719 --> 01:26:26,800
um as farmland as agriculture. So people

2040
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,520
can come in and they can build their

2041
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,360
houses and they can complain, oh these

2042
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,800
cows, they smell bad. And so then what

2043
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,800
do the what do the c what do the farmer

2044
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,040
the ranchers do? Oh, then they have to

2045
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,239
get kicked out and they have to go

2046
01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:44,000
somewhere else. And so they're not being

2047
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:47,280
protected by having the land zoned for

2048
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,760
ranching. And that's what we need to do

2049
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,760
is protect them. Um, and I also heard

2050
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,120
that some of them are taking their money

2051
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,199
and they're going to go to Idaho. Now, I

2052
01:26:57,199 --> 01:26:59,280
don't know if the land in Idaho is zoned

2053
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:00,880
for ranching or not, but they're like,

2054
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,080
"We're going to go somewhere where

2055
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,920
they're not building." I That's just

2056
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:07,615
what I heard. Okay. Um, from a rancher,

2057
01:27:07,615 --> 01:27:08,159
[clears throat]

2058
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:10,320
I think it is good that ranchers would

2059
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,199
be able to sell their land

2060
01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:15,120
to other ranchers.

2061
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:16,960
There are people out there that can't

2062
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,199
afford to buy more land for their ranch.

2063
01:27:19,199 --> 01:27:21,280
They're on small spread and they want to

2064
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,520
expand and they can't now because of the

2065
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,840
data center driving the price out of

2066
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,560
their out of their reach. So, I wanted

2067
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,639
to talk about something else. Um, I've

2068
01:27:30,639 --> 01:27:33,520
heard y'all are getting death threats. I

2069
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,360
assume that's true from the police

2070
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:39,120
presence that we have here. Um the thing

2071
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:40,639
is I don't think there would be a person

2072
01:27:40,639 --> 01:27:43,120
in this room that would threaten y'all.

2073
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,840
I think the violence that's in that

2074
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,400
we've been experiencing in this country

2075
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,320
over the last decade has come from one

2076
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,120
group of people and that's MAGA people.

2077
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:57,760
And I think I think this is a false flag

2078
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,360
thing that if you're getting death

2079
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:03,760
threats um and they're blaming us MAGA.

2080
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,760
>> They're maybe not not MAGA.

2081
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,000
>> We're not we're not threatening.

2082
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,639
>> Maybe somebody else then. But somebody

2083
01:28:10,639 --> 01:28:13,040
is trying to make us look bad and I

2084
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:14,960
don't know who because I don't know

2085
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:15,520
who's calling.

2086
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,800
>> Chinese operatives, right? [laughter]

2087
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,560
>> You getting your check yet?

2088
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,000
>> So, Miss Mr. Bingham, have you seen the

2089
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,280
memes on the internet about your angry

2090
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,639
outburst in Tmont? They are really fun

2091
01:28:30,639 --> 01:28:33,199
to watch and we've all had them. We've

2092
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:36,480
all had angry outbursts. But I think

2093
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:39,840
what you really wanted was not for us to

2094
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,880
grow up, but for us to revert and become

2095
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,040
children that are seen and not heard.

2096
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:48,400
And I think that's um what you wanted

2097
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,400
rather than. And so this is great. The

2098
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:51,120
>> time's up.

2099
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:52,560
>> Okay. This is great that you're

2100
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,719
listening now.

2101
01:28:54,719 --> 01:28:55,280
>> Thank you.

2102
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,956
Julie.

2103
01:28:58,966 --> 01:29:01,990
» [applause]

2104
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,320
» All right. Well, that concludes our

2105
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,719
public comment period.

2106
01:29:06,719 --> 01:29:08,480
Um, I believe we've got the warrant

2107
01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:11,360
register already done.

2108
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,960
Um, personnel actions.

2109
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,880
>> Okay. Do we have a close session? Okay.

2110
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,360
Nothing else. I'll would accept a motion

2111
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:38,709
to

2112
01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:41,600
personal action. That's taken care of,

2113
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:42,239
right?

2114
01:29:42,239 --> 01:29:42,639
>> Yeah.

2115
01:29:42,639 --> 01:29:45,280
>> Okay. I would make a motion to adjurnn.

2116
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:46,000
>> I'll second it.

2117
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,840
>> You have a motion by Commissioner Perry

2118
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,760
and a second by Commissioner Bingham.

2119
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,440
There's no further discussion. All in

2120
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:52,560
favor say I.

2121
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:52,800
>> I.

2122
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:56,560
We are adjourned. Thank