[0:01] [laughter]
[0:04] That's his personal chair. He's taking
[0:06] [laughter]
[0:12] » Okay. We'd like to welcome
[0:14] [clears throat] you to our commission
[0:15] meeting tonight. We appreciate uh all of
[0:17] you snuggling in and being here tonight.
[0:20] Um we will start off our meeting tonight
[0:22] by having the invocation by Commissioner
[0:25] Perry.
[0:27] >> Our heavenly father, we come before this
[0:28] time. We're grateful to be here in Boxer
[0:31] County and we're grateful for thy
[0:32] blessings that thou blesses us with. We
[0:34] ask a blessing at this time, Father,
[0:36] that thou will watch over those first
[0:37] responders who are dealing with the
[0:39] wildland fires that are occurring. That
[0:40] thou'll protect and watch over them and
[0:42] help them in their efforts to to deal with these issues. We pray that
[0:46] thou bloss bless and watch over all of
[0:48] our first responders. They protect us
[0:49] and keep us safe and and free. And we
[0:51] ask you to please bless those who are
[0:52] serving us in the military wherever they
[0:54] may be. That they'll know that we
[0:55] appreciate their service in in our
[0:57] behalf. And we ask that thy spirit will
[0:59] guide and direct us this night and
[1:00] always. And we say these things in the
[1:01] name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
[1:02] >> Amen.
[1:03] >> And we'll have our pledge of allegiance
[1:05] by our auditor Charlene Larson.
[1:17] Republic for which it stands, one nation
[1:21] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[1:25] justice for all.
[1:27] [clears throat]
[1:29] >> Thank you, Commissioner Perry and
[1:31] Charlene. We appreciate that.
[1:33] [clears throat]
[1:34] Under administrative review, reports and
[1:36] future agenda items, Commissioner Perry
[1:38] would like to have some discussion.
[1:40] >> Yeah. Um, Mr. Mr. Chair, I just would
[1:42] like to ask our county attorney um seen
[1:44] some things recently about um open and
[1:47] public meetings and about commissioners
[1:49] meetings and just want to clarify with
[1:50] you as far as the open and public
[1:52] meetings law. Is there anything in the
[1:54] open and public meetings law that would
[1:55] indicate that the commissioners have
[1:56] done anything incorrect when it comes to
[1:58] open and public meetings concerning this
[2:00] matter or any other matter that you're
[2:01] aware of?
[2:02] >> There is not. And let me just explain
[2:04] that briefly. Because because you are a
[2:05] three-member commission, you have two
[2:07] functions, administrative and
[2:08] legislative. when you're conducting
[2:10] administrative things, running the
[2:12] business of the county, it's not a
[2:14] formal meeting. There doesn't have to be
[2:15] noticed as a formal meeting. You can get
[2:16] together and do that kind of stuff. So,
[2:19] uh, as long as you are not discussing
[2:22] things you're going to take a vote on,
[2:23] actually voting, then when you get
[2:26] together, it doesn't constitute an
[2:27] illegal meeting at this point. I'm not
[2:29] aware of anything that's gone on that's
[2:31] been an illegal meeting.
[2:32] >> If I'm familiar, that law was changed
[2:33] just a couple years ago in the legisle.
[2:35] >> It's been It's been changed several
[2:36] times over the last couple years.
[2:37] >> Last couple years. Okay. That's what I
[2:38] wanted to clarify. So, thank you.
[2:42] >> Thank you, Commissioner Perry.
[2:44] Commissioner Bingham, do you have
[2:45] anything?
[2:45] >> Uh, no.
[2:46] >> And I have nothing as well.
[2:48] [clears throat]
[2:49] Uh, under former agenda items, uh, the
[2:52] proposed Garland uh, inland
[2:56] annexation.
[2:57] Um, we'd like to have some discussion
[2:59] about that.
[3:00] >> So, there's been some discussion about
[3:02] uh, drainage issues uh, at this
[3:04] particular location.
[3:06] It's um up on a hill and the water runs
[3:10] down and runs onto private piece
[3:12] property. So, I'm wondering if we
[3:15] shouldn't um table this for another
[3:17] couple of weeks and let our roads
[3:18] department have an opportunity to review
[3:20] that and see what we need to do to
[3:21] resolve that drainage issue.
[3:25] >> And I'm comfortable with keeping it uh
[3:26] as a former agenda item and bringing
[3:28] them back and not not discussing it
[3:29] tonight. I I did get the questions I
[3:31] needed answer for emergency services.
[3:33] They got a the Garland Fire Department
[3:35] did provide us some good information.
[3:36] So, we got the questions I had last time
[3:39] answered, but if we need to get the
[3:40] drainage things, I'm fine with uh
[3:42] postponing it till the next meeting.
[3:44] >> So, do we need a motion to do that or
[3:45] just leave it as a former agenda item?
[3:48] >> Can we just leave it as a former agenda
[3:49] item?
[3:50] >> Well, if you want it on the next
[3:51] meeting, I would probably have it as a
[3:52] item on the next. So, just
[3:54] >> Okay. So, let's Yeah, we can do a motion
[3:55] to put it on the next item and get that
[3:57] resolved.
[3:58] >> Okay. Second.
[3:59] We have a motion to uh put the Garland
[4:02] uh island annexation on our
[4:07] next meeting by Commissioner uh Perry
[4:09] and a second by Commissioner Bingham. Is
[4:12] there any further discussion?
[4:13] >> All in favor say I.
[4:15] >> I.
[4:15] >> Motion passes. Thank you.
[4:18] >> Emergency services issue. Mark, are you
[4:20] here?
[4:24] Uh, ARPA uh, L A T CF. Do we have
[4:29] anything, Charlene? Okay, very good.
[4:32] >> Clerk's office uh, appointment applications to serve on the
[4:37] East Garland Cemetery Board.
[4:39] >> Okay, so our our clerk's office did
[4:42] gather um, we put it out, put the
[4:44] information out. We have four names that
[4:46] are available for us that have said they
[4:48] would be willing to serve as uh, board
[4:51] members. Um, the board is only made up
[4:53] of three members, however, so we have to
[4:55] make a determination tonight who we'd
[4:56] want on the board. The four people who
[4:58] have expressed interest and are willing
[4:59] to serve on that board are Corey
[5:00] Ballard, Larry Hess, Colleen Schaefer,
[5:03] and Dave Schaefer. Um, so my motion
[5:08] would be and then we could actually put
[5:10] the fourth member on as a non- voting
[5:13] member and they could actually fill in
[5:14] as a secretary if the other three so cho
[5:17] chose to do so. So my motion would be to
[5:19] accept the first three, Corey Ballard,
[5:21] Larry Hess, and Colleen Schaefer as the
[5:23] board members for the East Garland
[5:25] Cemetery Board. And then we would
[5:27] include Dave Schaefer as a non- voting
[5:28] member and could be if they wanted to
[5:30] choose to have him be the secretary
[5:32] could do that. That would be my motion.
[5:34] >> Second. We have a motion by Commissioner
[5:36] Bingham or Commissioner Perry to approve
[5:39] uh the first three applicants to serve
[5:42] on the East Garland Cemetery Board with
[5:45] Dave uh Schaefer as an alternative non-
[5:49] voting member and a second by
[5:51] Commissioner Bingham. Is there no Is
[5:53] there any further discussion?
[5:56] >> All in favor say I.
[5:57] >> I.
[5:58] >> Motion passes. Thank you.
[6:04] » Okay. Uh number eight under
[6:06] commissioners letter of appreciation for
[6:08] the Boys and Girls Club of Northern Utah
[6:10] by the county commission.
[6:13] >> Yeah, Mr.
[6:13] >> Perry, Mr. chair. Um I wanted to point
[6:16] out the fact that uh the Boys and Girls
[6:19] Club, for those who don't know, recently
[6:20] um over the last three or four years has
[6:22] created a community resource center that
[6:25] they worked together with a lot of
[6:26] different folks here in Boxer County to
[6:28] create this great center here in Brigham
[6:30] City that uh benefits not just the Boys
[6:32] and Girls Club, but it benefits um our
[6:34] women's shelter. It benefits several
[6:37] nonprofits that are part of that. And
[6:39] they've even stepped up to help us with
[6:40] homelessness here in the Boxer County
[6:42] area. So, because of all of the efforts
[6:45] of the folks at the Boys and Girls Club
[6:47] in that community resource and community
[6:49] center, we'd like to um propose that we
[6:52] as a commission give them um a letter
[6:54] thanking them for the service that
[6:56] they're providing in our county and
[6:57] helping um with all the so many needs
[6:59] that need to be happening. and just our
[7:02] appreciation that they can use to let
[7:04] people know that they are doing things
[7:06] that keep our cost low as a county
[7:08] because of the things that they're able
[7:09] to do through volunteers and through people who donate to their their
[7:12] cause so that government doesn't have to
[7:15] take care of many of those kind of
[7:16] things. The Boys and Girls Club is doing
[7:18] it. So, I would make a motion that we
[7:19] approve a letter of appreciation for the
[7:21] Boys and Girls Club of Northern Utah to
[7:23] be thank them.
[7:25] >> Second. We have a motion by Commissioner
[7:27] Perry to approve appreciation letter for
[7:30] the Boys and Girls Club of Northern Utah
[7:32] and a second by Commissioner Bingham.
[7:34] All in favor?
[7:35] >> I.
[7:36] >> Okay. Thank you so much. Motion passes.
[7:40] >> Okay. Uh discussion relating to the
[7:42] Golden Spike Inland Port uh by the
[7:45] commissioners. And I think Commissioner
[7:46] Perry was
[7:47] >> actually I've got Sean Mil here who's
[7:49] been working with Bragg if he could come
[7:50] up front. We've had him doing some um
[7:53] economic development things and working
[7:55] on different things. And so Sean's got
[7:56] some information. I just want to ask
[7:57] Sean uh we as a county back in 2023, I
[8:02] believe, we went into an agreement with
[8:03] the inland port authority for the state
[8:05] of Utah. And I just want to ask Sean,
[8:07] has anything happened with any any I
[8:10] know I know Garland has got an inland
[8:13] port. I know Brigham City has an inland
[8:14] port and I believe Willard also has an
[8:17] inland port. Has there been anything as
[8:20] far as the portion of the box that our
[8:21] county went into the inland port with
[8:22] done?
[8:23] >> Well, thank you commissioners for this
[8:25] opportunity. For the record, Sean Mil,
[8:26] Bay River Association of Governments,
[8:28] Bragg, uh your economic development
[8:30] director. Um you're correct that several
[8:33] years ago we entered into that golden
[8:35] spike project area and there are a
[8:36] number of non-ontiguous
[8:39] u bubbles or zones where there's
[8:41] economic opportunity forecast might uh
[8:44] work with rail and as you noted the
[8:47] genesis of that participation with the
[8:49] Utah inland port authority was around
[8:50] the lakeshore learning 1.2 2 million
[8:52] square ft under roof there in the
[8:54] Garland area uh much to the benefit of
[8:56] Tmont and Garland in a in a big
[8:59] generalized sense. And then of course
[9:00] Newore and Brigham City which has been a
[9:03] longtime great corporate citizen here.
[9:05] Uh there are a number of other uh areas
[9:07] not least of which one was called
[9:09] project or the perafrost zone where
[9:12] there was a potential for refrigerated
[9:15] cold storage uh for value ad a
[9:18] producers. uh another Harwood zone up by
[9:22] Tree Mountain that uh may or may not be
[9:25] relevant to be annexed into uh Tree
[9:28] Mountain one day. And like you
[9:29] mentioned, there are other some small
[9:31] municipalities that have either added
[9:33] into the project area land that's within
[9:36] their city limits. Uh so there have been
[9:38] a number of tire kickers over the years
[9:40] that have expressed some interest, but
[9:42] there's nothing as of late. Um, so I
[9:44] don't have anything new to report at
[9:46] this particular time on behalf of the
[9:47] Inland Port or our broad economic
[9:49] development activities.
[9:51] >> Okay.
[9:51] >> Doesn't mean that uh, you know, there
[9:53] have been some in the past, but nothing
[9:55] actively right now.
[9:56] >> Okay. Thank you.
[9:58] >> So, having that in mind,
[9:59] >> all sir?
[9:59] >> Oh, yes, that's it. Okay. So, having
[10:01] that in mind, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to
[10:04] um make a motion that we have the county
[10:05] attorney's office draft um
[10:08] correspondence to the inland port and
[10:11] asking them to while they can Garland
[10:14] Tremont can be part of it, Brigham can
[10:15] be part of it, Willard can be part of it
[10:17] that they would I would ask respectively
[10:19] that they let Brit County any land that
[10:21] we've put in and suggested be part of it
[10:24] be removed from the inland port um for
[10:27] the foregoing future unless for some
[10:29] reason a pre a former comm another
[10:32] commission decides they want to do
[10:33] something different but I would like to
[10:34] have that information sent by our county
[10:36] attorney's office inland port suggesting
[10:38] that Boxet County at this time be
[10:40] removed as one of the participants in
[10:42] the inland port that's what my motion
[10:44] would be
[10:45] >> second
[10:47] >> we have a motion by commissioner Perry
[10:50] to have our attorney send uh the inland
[10:53] port uh letter to have us removed and a
[10:57] second by commissioner Bingham if
[11:00] there's no further discussion All in
[11:01] favor? I
[11:02] >> I
[11:03] >> Okay, motion passes. Thank you. [snorts]
[11:06] Okay. Number nine under community
[11:08] development. We need uh Scott come
[11:11] forward so we can discuss um ordinance
[11:14] number 656 repeating ordinance number
[11:17] 649 and reacting ordinance number 649
[11:22] with modifications
[11:24] and further discussion with everything
[11:26] else.
[11:27] >> All right. Scott Lions, Boxeller County
[11:30] Community Development. Um got a couple
[11:32] agenda items this evening. The first one
[11:34] as stated is uh ordinance 656. This
[11:38] essentially repeals and replaces uh
[11:40] ordinance 649.
[11:42] This uh ordinance 649 was a zoning
[11:47] ordinance that adopted zoning throughout
[11:51] what is considered the third ward area
[11:53] of Boxler County. uh kind of sits south
[11:56] of Tmont
[11:58] uh west of Lwood. Um a variety of
[12:02] residents got together and submitted an
[12:05] application to have their property zoned
[12:07] from the unzoned area to the
[12:09] agricultural heritage zone. um
[12:12] ultimately with the goal of placing that
[12:14] property into an agricultural protection
[12:16] area. Uh one of the residents that uh in
[12:21] the end decided to not have their
[12:24] property included in that zone change uh
[12:27] that one of their parcels was
[12:30] included in the uh legal descriptions
[12:33] when ordinance 649 was adopted. So the
[12:36] request is basically just pop back into
[12:40] that ordinance, remove that one 15 acre
[12:42] parcel and then read it essentially as
[12:47] ordinance 656.
[12:50] >> Okay.
[12:54] » So if I'm correct, we need a repeal
[12:56] ordinance 64. Let's see. Pass just if we
[13:00] just pass 656, will that repeal
[13:01] ordinance 649 or do we need to reenact?
[13:03] I mean, just so I understand what you
[13:05] what you're
[13:05] >> I believe if you just do 656, it's
[13:07] worded that it's essentially doing those
[13:09] other things. So, you should be able to
[13:11] just adopt 656.
[13:13] >> Okay. My motion be would be that we
[13:14] adopt ordinance 656.
[13:17] >> Second.
[13:17] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry
[13:20] to adopt ordinance 656 and a second by
[13:23] Commissioner Bingham. If there's no
[13:24] further discussion, I'll say I
[13:27] >> I
[13:29] >> Okay. 518 or I mean number B 6 number
[13:34] 652 uh county road vacate Scott.
[13:38] >> Yeah. So this road and right ofway uh
[13:41] mapped as 53400 west and 27200 north uh
[13:45] located in the Clear Creek area of
[13:48] unincorporated Boxelder County. This
[13:50] went through the planning commission um
[13:53] on April 16th, 2026 and then came to you
[13:57] for a public hearing uh May 27th, 2026.
[14:02] So the way our vacate policy is worded
[14:06] is it goes through the planning
[14:08] commission through the county commission
[14:10] with the public hearing notice and uh
[14:13] public hearing held. Following that, the
[14:16] uh commission either directs staff to
[14:19] prepare the ordinance for adoption or
[14:21] directs or or denies the request. Uh in
[14:24] this case, you directed staff to prepare
[14:26] the ordinance. So, ordinance 652 before
[14:29] you this evening is the ordinance that
[14:30] would officially vacate that uh roadway.
[14:34] Um, and it would that what is a right of
[14:39] way by use would just return to the
[14:42] owner that owns that parcel that it
[14:44] crosses.
[14:46] >> Okay. I'll make a motion to approve
[14:48] ordinance 652 to vacate county road.
[14:51] >> I'll second it.
[14:52] >> We have a a motion by Commissioner
[14:54] Bingham to approve the vacate number 652
[14:59] of the county road and a second by
[15:01] Commissioner Perry. There's no further
[15:03] discussion. All in favor say I. I.
[15:06] >> I.
[15:07] >> Thank you. Um
[15:10] number C, ordinance 653, reszone un
[15:14] reszone unzoned to uh
[15:18] a Heritage Zone. Scott.
[15:20] >> All right. So this is another similar to
[15:22] the ordinance uh earlier. This is
[15:25] uh two land owners that decided to get
[15:28] together and request that their property
[15:31] that is currently unzoned be zoned to
[15:34] the agricultural heritage zone um with
[15:37] the end goal of placing that property in
[15:39] an agricultural protection area. Uh the
[15:42] application includes approximately 514
[15:46] acres of land. Um this is throughout
[15:50] kind of the Riverside Fielding Plymouth
[15:53] area of Boxhelder County. Um covers two
[15:58] different uh dairies as well as a lot of
[16:01] um uh field that is used for crops. Um
[16:07] this has been through the planning
[16:08] commission.
[16:10] It went to them. Public hearing was
[16:11] held. There was no opposition to it. uh
[16:14] the remainder of the area uh primarily
[16:17] unzoned used primarily for agriculture.
[16:20] There's some rural residential in the
[16:22] area. The
[16:25] final approval standard and this these are the standards reviewed by the
[16:28] planning commission and and uh the
[16:30] planning commission did forward a
[16:32] recommendation of approval for this
[16:34] zoning request um are whether the
[16:37] proposed amendment is consistent with
[16:38] goals, objectives, and policies of the
[16:40] county's general plan. Uh this request
[16:44] is consistent. That is what the planning
[16:46] commission and staff found whether the
[16:49] proposed amendment is harmonious with
[16:50] the overall character of existing
[16:52] development in the vicinity of the
[16:54] subject property. Uh both staff and the
[16:56] founding the planning commission agreed
[16:58] with that as well. Uh the extent to
[17:01] which the proposed amendment may
[17:03] adversely affect adjacent property. um
[17:06] staff and the planning commission didn't
[17:08] find any negative effects uh based on
[17:10] the request and then the adequacy of
[17:13] facilities and services intended to
[17:15] serve the subject property and this
[17:18] addresses roadways, parks and recreation
[17:20] facilities, police, fire, school, um all
[17:23] those things and the proposed amendment
[17:26] should reduce demand on all of those
[17:28] facilities and services. So based on
[17:31] that, the planning commission forwarded
[17:33] a recommendation of approval.
[17:36] >> So I'll make a motion that we approve
[17:37] ordinance 653 to reszone unzone to a
[17:40] Heritage Zone.
[17:42] >> I'll second it.
[17:43] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Bingham
[17:45] to approve number 653 reszone
[17:49] unzone to a Heritage Zone and a second
[17:52] by Commissioner Perry. There's no
[17:54] further discussion. All in favor say I.
[17:56] >> I.
[17:57] >> Very good. Thanks.
[18:00] Okay. Um number D, uh number 654,
[18:06] moratorum on data centers and data
[18:08] center power plants.
[18:11] >> So yeah, ordinance 654 essentially is
[18:14] proposing uh the county enter into a
[18:17] moratorum for what is considered a
[18:20] temporary land use regulation. And so
[18:21] our land use code allows for the uh
[18:24] planning commission or the county
[18:26] commission to uh start a moratorium of
[18:30] up to 180 days. So 6 months in order for
[18:34] the county to review certain things. In
[18:38] this particular case, it would be
[18:40] specifically data centers and data
[18:42] center power plants um to give us time
[18:45] to look at what uh how those should be
[18:49] reviewed and handled, what codes would
[18:52] need to be put in place, what zoning
[18:54] would need to be put in place, um things
[18:57] like that. And obviously not limited to
[18:59] just that. So,
[19:02] >> so this moratorum if we if we pass the
[19:04] way I've read it and looked at it would
[19:06] allow us gives us that six-month window
[19:08] so we can start to put some some
[19:10] parameters in place. So, even on
[19:12] unzoneed property in the county, we
[19:14] could actually require some process
[19:17] better than what what we've seen in the
[19:19] past, right?
[19:19] >> Yeah. So, there's a variety of ways that
[19:21] it could be addressed. Um whether that
[19:24] be with specific zones, it could be an
[19:26] overlay zone, it could be something like
[19:29] the county has a landfill specific zone
[19:32] or a mining specific zone.
[19:34] >> Um and that's where those those zones
[19:37] are the only zones that a landfill or uh
[19:40] mining is allowed. So if you want to
[19:44] >> use do one of those uses, then you would
[19:47] have to request to reszone your property
[19:49] to that whether your property is unzoned
[19:51] or not. Okay.
[19:52] >> Um so so something like that would be in
[19:55] consideration. Uh additionally approvals
[19:58] and review and approval standards would
[20:01] be considered as part of this. So, uh,
[20:04] both of those uses have, uh, review and
[20:07] approval standards very specific to the
[20:10] use and the, uh, detrimental effects
[20:14] that that use may, um, bring about, um,
[20:17] to,
[20:19] uh, the property, the adjacent property,
[20:22] the community at large, things like
[20:24] that, so that those can be addressed,
[20:26] you know, by the planning commission
[20:28] during the administration of that uh,
[20:30] those ordinances. So
[20:33] >> very good.
[20:35] >> Retroactive.
[20:36] >> Okay.
[20:38] >> Um
[20:39] from our county attorney, is there
[20:41] anything in in the 180 days that um it
[20:46] strictly would be from today forward is
[20:48] after we passed. Is that my
[20:49] understanding?
[20:50] >> Yeah. What what this does, it gives you
[20:51] an opportunity to decide what how you
[20:52] want to regulate them,
[20:53] >> right?
[20:54] >> You've got to do that within six months,
[20:55] 180 days. If you don't, then it just it
[20:58] lapses.
[20:58] >> Yeah.
[20:59] >> Um so you can decide how you want to do
[21:01] that. But if somebody had so just to
[21:03] make sure
[21:03] >> if an application sorry to answer that
[21:05] if an application's been filed before
[21:06] today
[21:07] >> that proceeds forward anything filed
[21:09] after today then it has to be put on
[21:12] hold till that six months is expired or
[21:14] until some regulations adopted.
[21:16] >> I want to clarify that that's the case.
[21:17] Yeah. Because anything prior to that
[21:19] would put us into a situation where we'd
[21:21] be legally liable. Correct.
[21:22] >> Yes. Can't you can't pass a law after
[21:24] the fact to apply to something that's
[21:25] already happened before.
[21:26] >> That's what I wanted to make sure of.
[21:28] Okay.
[21:30] Um if if there's no further questions, I
[21:32] would make a motion that we approve
[21:33] ordinance 654, the data centers and data
[21:36] center power plants.
[21:37] >> Second.
[21:38] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry
[21:41] to approve number 654, moratorum on data
[21:45] centers and data center power plants.
[21:47] Second by Commissioner Bingham. There's
[21:49] no further discussion. All in favor say
[21:51] I.
[21:51] >> I.
[21:52] >> Motion passes. Thank you.
[21:54] >> Thank you.
[21:56] >> Appreciate it, Scott. Okay. Number 10 in the sheriff's office. We
[22:02] want to discuss a uh contract number
[22:06] 26-25 for court uh baifts and services.
[22:12] >> Kate Palmer, Sheriff's Office, Chief
[22:14] Deputy. Uh we have our annual contract
[22:16] with the state of Utah for court bailiff
[22:18] services. Uh nothing's changed from last
[22:20] year, but it's so the sheriff's office
[22:23] provides bailiff services to the
[22:26] district court.
[22:28] The only question I have is okay um
[22:30] nothing changed except for we pay pay
[22:32] our bails more now today.
[22:34] >> That's correct.
[22:35] >> And is there anything we can do um is it
[22:38] something we probably need to go back to
[22:39] our legislators to to say hey you need
[22:41] to increase based on the cost that we're
[22:45] incurring as a county as these things go
[22:47] up because we just did this um on a
[22:49] different issue when it comes to our
[22:51] DMV. just fixed this with the
[22:52] legislature recently because we were
[22:54] actually subsidizing the Department of
[22:56] Motor Vehicle for the state of Utah. So,
[22:58] I I guess what I just want to know I
[22:59] mean I'm okay with the contract going
[23:01] forward, but I would like to go back and
[23:02] say to the state you need to continue to
[23:05] take care of these things. We shouldn't
[23:06] be subsidizing
[23:08] your cost to operate your court. Is that
[23:11] >> Yeah, that's come up. The attorney's
[23:13] office is looking into it. Um I think
[23:15] the state's on their fiscal budget year
[23:16] that starts in July, so that'll be
[23:18] something we need to work on for next
[23:19] year.
[23:20] >> Okay. Well, I just like I said, we just
[23:22] addressed it with the Department of
[23:24] Motor Vehicle issues, so that's a good
[23:25] point. I just wanted to make sure. So,
[23:26] >> yep.
[23:27] >> Okay. I'd make a motion that we approve
[23:30] contract 2625 for the court perimeter
[23:32] and baift services as explained by our
[23:34] chief deputy.
[23:35] >> Second.
[23:36] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry
[23:39] to uh approve number 26-25
[23:43] for court bailiff services and a second
[23:45] by Commissioner Bingham. There's no
[23:48] further discussion. All in favor? Hi.
[23:50] >> Hi.
[24:02] » Okay, we are now to our public comment
[24:06] period.
[24:08] Those wishing to make uh public comments
[24:11] shall sign the comment role and be
[24:13] responsible for the following rules
[24:14] outlined in the county commission rules
[24:16] and procedures. Speakers will have one
[24:19] threeinut opportunity to speak
[24:21] regardless of the number of items they
[24:22] wish to address. Speakers shall address
[24:24] their comments to the county commission
[24:26] only. This is a time to be heard. There
[24:29] will not be a back and forth dialogue
[24:31] with the commissioners. Speakers may
[24:33] file copies of their remarks or
[24:35] supporting information with the county
[24:38] clerk. The county clerk will make the
[24:40] information available to the county
[24:42] commission.
[24:43] And we will start off with Jack
[24:46] Strickney.
[24:54] Hello commissioners. Uh my name is Jack
[24:56] Stikney. I'm a 26y year resident of Box
[24:59] Elder County living in Tmont. And uh
[25:02] thank you for giving me the opportunity
[25:04] to speak. I acknowledge that the people
[25:07] in our community who have sincere
[25:09] concerns about the proposed Stratos
[25:12] project questions about water, air
[25:14] quality, wildlife, power generation,
[25:16] infrastructure, and long-term impacts
[25:18] are legitimate. They deserve to be
[25:21] heard, and most importantly, they
[25:22] deserve factual answers. That said, it's
[25:25] also important that we distinguish
[25:27] between perceived fears and actual
[25:30] reality. The fact that we worry doesn't
[25:32] mean our worst fears will happen. most
[25:34] don't. Likewise, supporting stratus
[25:37] doesn't mean the project is risk-f free.
[25:40] The purpose of this moratorum should be
[25:41] to find the truth, not to be persuaded
[25:44] by outcomes that either side simply
[25:46] feels are true. We've seen public
[25:49] meetings, social media campaigns,
[25:51] organized opposition, lawsuits, and
[25:54] polling. These demonstrate that people
[25:56] care deeply about the future of our
[25:58] county. But public opinion, no matter
[26:01] how strongly held, is not a substitute
[26:03] for scientific analysis, engineering
[26:05] assessments, and fact-based evidence.
[26:08] This moratorum should be used to study
[26:10] the actual water availability and
[26:13] quality, the likely CO2 emissions and
[26:16] heat dissipation impacts, the real
[26:18] impact uh wildlife populations,
[26:20] movements and flyways, the calculated
[26:23] fuel requirements for power generation,
[26:25] the actual infrastructure needs and true
[26:27] economic benefits and costs. That's a
[26:30] tall order for 180 days, but the guiding
[26:33] principle should be simple. follow the
[26:35] science, the engineering, and the facts
[26:38] wherever they lead. The developers have
[26:40] already modified their proposal and
[26:42] responded to concerns raised by
[26:43] officials and the public. Whatever your
[26:46] position, public participation is is
[26:48] essential. I hope we will evaluate both
[26:51] the actual risks and the actual
[26:53] opportunities. Every major project
[26:55] carries impacts. The question is whether
[26:58] those impacts can be understood,
[26:59] mitigated, and managed in a way that
[27:02] benefits our community, our state, and
[27:05] our nation. Finally, I believe the
[27:07] discussion is about more than a single
[27:09] project. From the railroad to aerospace
[27:12] to silicon slopes, Utah is has a long
[27:15] history of innovation. We are entering
[27:17] an area an era in which advanced
[27:20] computing, artificial intelligence,
[27:22] energy, energy infrastructure and
[27:24] technological innovation will
[27:26] increasingly shape our economy and our
[27:28] future. These developments will occur
[27:30] somewhere. Our responsibility is decide
[27:33] carefully and honestly whether they
[27:35] should occur occur here and in a manner
[27:38] with our values, our responsibilities,
[27:40] and our long-term interests. My points
[27:42] today are simple. Facts carry more
[27:44] weight than assumptions. Evidence
[27:47] carries more weight than emotion. And
[27:49] transparency builds trust. And when the
[27:51] evaluations are complete, let's have the
[27:54] courage to follow the facts wherever
[27:55] they may lead. Thank you.
[27:58] >> Thank you.
[28:01] >> Okay, Christine Williams.
[28:11] » Thank you, commissioners, for letting me
[28:14] um speak. Um
[28:15] >> you need to pull that mic just a little
[28:17] closer. Come
[28:18] >> a little closer. Thank you.
[28:21] >> My husband and I live in North Garland.
[28:24] We are on a well, not a good well.
[28:28] We have tried to hook into the culinary
[28:30] water up there. They proceed to tell us
[28:32] there's not enough water. There's no
[28:34] infrastructure.
[28:36] The water line runs across the street
[28:38] from us, but we can't hook it.
[28:43] Our home is in the Mountain View
[28:44] subdivision, which had zero fire
[28:47] hydrants in place when we closed out our
[28:49] home less than two years ago.
[28:52] This was against fire codes.
[28:56] After our homeowners insurance increased
[28:58] due to no fire hydrants, we contacted
[29:01] the fire chief. I personally contacted
[29:04] or left a message for Mr. Bingham and
[29:08] Mr. Perry with no response.
[29:11] I
[29:13] was unfortunately not very ladylike. I
[29:16] was angry, frustrated that no one would
[29:19] give me true answers,
[29:22] zero truth.
[29:24] I
[29:28] ended up speaking with the fire chief.
[29:30] He knew about there being no fire
[29:32] hydrants out in our area.
[29:35] I spoke with the zoning committee. They
[29:37] knew about it. I spoke with the
[29:42] per building permit office. They knew
[29:44] about it, but yet they allowed
[29:50] the building inspectors to inspect and
[29:53] pass and give occupancy
[29:57] on something against fire codes.
[30:01] I my husband and I had a conversation
[30:03] with the county attorney. He knew about
[30:06] it.
[30:08] He said that it shouldn't have happened.
[30:10] Just one little tiny thing could have
[30:12] impacted my husband's life, my life
[30:15] forever.
[30:16] And it has increased our homeowners
[30:19] insurance over $100 a month. And for the
[30:24] life of our loan, that's over $36,000
[30:27] for my husband who's retired.
[30:31] So going forward with everything that's
[30:34] happening in this community,
[30:38] um I have a few thoughts.
[30:41] If they drill wells out for this data
[30:44] center, which they have to do, that
[30:47] impacts every single water
[30:51] infrastructure in the region from the
[30:54] Idaho border down to past the Great Salt
[30:57] Lake. Every well will be impacted.
[31:01] Our well isn't good in our area we're
[31:03] at. There's no water to hook up to
[31:07] culinary water.
[31:10] How can you allow
[31:13] wells to be drilled when the residents
[31:16] who are here will be impacted? No doubt.
[31:21] Secondly,
[31:25] I question
[31:27] due to the
[31:30] >> Christine, your time's up. I'm sorry.
[31:33] >> Thank you,
[31:37] » Tom Brady.
[31:41] » I've been here four times.
[31:43] >> Good evening.
[31:47] Yesterday I had the wonderful
[31:48] opportunity of sharing very fond
[31:50] memories with the family. We watched the
[31:52] movie Dogman. Even though this was a
[31:54] fictional animated movie, it had several
[31:57] worthwhile themes that parallel the
[31:58] situation we are currently experiencing
[32:01] here in Boxelder County. There were
[32:03] several evil villains who attempted to
[32:05] destroy the city. As the movie
[32:07] progressed, the villains gradually
[32:09] changed their attitude and behavior. But
[32:12] it was too late. This city was
[32:13] destroyed. Even the weeds started to
[32:15] die. Right now, we the people know who
[32:18] the villains are. In fact, the villains
[32:20] know who they are. They can morph into
[32:22] heroes before it is too late. By voting
[32:26] absolutely no to an AI data surveillance
[32:28] center here in Boxelder County. This
[32:31] evening, we the people are fighting for
[32:33] truth, justice, our pristine way of
[32:35] life, and the American values that made
[32:37] this country great. As we celebrate the
[32:40] 250th anniversary of our country,
[32:42] reflect upon the events that
[32:44] precipitated during the infamous Boston
[32:46] Tea Party.
[32:48] During the Tea Act of 1773,
[32:52] it wasn't so much about the tax because
[32:54] it actually lowered the price of the
[32:56] tea, but the no taxation with rep
[32:59] without representation was the main
[33:01] issue. The patriots felt that Britain
[33:03] could impose the tea tax. They could
[33:05] also impose other taxes and restrictions
[33:08] upon the colonies. This data center must
[33:10] not proceed without the full approval of
[33:13] the citizens who will be impacted the
[33:15] most. This includes all environmental
[33:17] impact studies including water and its
[33:20] pollution, noise, the impact upon Great
[33:22] Salt Lake, electricity, climate change,
[33:25] and any other studies in support of this
[33:27] facility of this magnitude. No
[33:30] implementation without representation
[33:32] should be our slogan and battlecry. The
[33:36] hopey Indians have a very important
[33:37] phrase and philosophy concerning the
[33:39] earth's guard guardianship the parowan
[33:41] gap. It is to preserve protect and be
[33:44] good stewards of the of the earth by
[33:47] allowing the day center are we really
[33:49] being good s stewards of the earth. God
[33:52] is not happy with the decisions of our
[33:54] current leaders. He has proclaimed this
[33:56] disregard by sending a drought to us,
[33:59] which is happens to be the driest and
[34:00] warmest on recorded history here in
[34:03] Utah. The leaders did not hear that
[34:05] message sent by God. And so they sent
[34:07] another plague. And this one was an
[34:10] early frost that decimated the peach and
[34:12] other fruit tree crops. If the leaders
[34:14] aren't going to listen to we the
[34:16] citizens, maybe they ought to listen to
[34:19] God, the creator of this wonderful
[34:21] earth. Chinese and Russian critical
[34:23] materials are also going to be used in
[34:25] this particular one which is another
[34:28] issue. Security artificial intelligence
[34:30] will destroy our economy, human
[34:32] relationships along with many other good
[34:35] high-paying jobs. Are you willing to
[34:39] sacrifice the citizens of this wonderful
[34:41] community for 30 pieces of silver? Thank
[34:44] you. Yeah. [applause]
[34:49] Diana Hardy.
[34:51] [applause]
[35:03] » Okay. Diana Hardy Bighgam. The Boxeller
[35:06] Committee of Liberty Liberty needs to
[35:08] correct the Boxiller County Commission
[35:10] minutes minutes of April 22nd. It was
[35:12] stated in the minutes, "The citizens are
[35:14] being forced to turn over their
[35:16] hard-earned money to pay for salaries."
[35:18] This statement is incorrect. The correct
[35:21] statement should read, "The citizens are
[35:23] being forced to turn over their
[35:24] hard-earned money so that elected
[35:26] representatives can have larger salaries
[35:29] and defund unconstitutional socialist
[35:31] government programs."
[35:33] It was stated in these same minutes
[35:35] incorrectly that quote she said
[35:38] Commissioner Bingham stated he is for
[35:40] property rights and wanted to zone
[35:42] people's property. This statement is
[35:44] incorrect. The correct statement should
[35:47] read Commissioner Bingham reported he is
[35:50] for property rights but is trying to
[35:52] zone all the pro all the county's
[35:54] property which is unconstitutional.
[35:56] It is concerning that the minutes have
[35:58] been inaccurate so many times.
[36:02] [snorts] Would all representatives be
[36:03] treating these data centers differently
[36:06] if they were called by their true name?
[36:08] Surveillance centers. These surveillance
[36:11] centers are violating our right to
[36:13] privacy, the Fourth Amendment. Our
[36:15] smartphones should instead be called
[36:18] surveillance phones. Smart meters on our
[36:21] utilities should be called surveillance
[36:23] meters. smart TVs, surveillance TVs,
[36:27] smart cities, surveillance cities, etc.
[36:31] The founding fathers said what King
[36:33] George III did to the people had a happy
[36:35] effect because it woke the people up to
[36:38] their duty and responsibility to the
[36:40] gift of liberty. What these surveillance
[36:42] centers have done is awaken the people
[36:45] up to their duty and responsibility to
[36:48] the gift of liberty. We the people are
[36:50] to be the watchmen. Alexander Hamilton
[36:53] stated in Federalist's papers 33 that
[36:56] when the government steps outside of its
[36:58] boundaries of its constitutional limits,
[37:01] the people who have created this
[37:03] government, remember [clears throat]
[37:04] the government is a creature of the
[37:06] people must now stand and remedy the
[37:09] injury that has been done to our
[37:11] constitution.
[37:12] All representatives take an oath of
[37:14] office to support, obey, and defend the
[37:19] US and state constitution. But sadly,
[37:22] representatives betray their oath of
[37:24] office and keep subverting and ignoring
[37:27] both constitutions.
[37:30] The founding fathers taught that
[37:32] whatever is contrary to the constitution
[37:36] is null and void and of no force. All
[37:39] these surveillance centers should be
[37:41] shut down as well as all other
[37:43] surveillance surveillance phones,
[37:46] meters, TVs, and smart cities. Thank
[37:49] you.
[37:51] >> Thank you, [applause]
[37:55] » Jennine [cheering] Bill.
[37:58] >> What was that?
[37:59] >> Janine Bill.
[38:26] Uh, I'm Janine Bill and thank you for
[38:29] letting me speak. During COVID, my
[38:32] husband and I attended a public hearing
[38:36] at the state capital on mandatory
[38:39] vaccinations
[38:41] and over a thousand citizens attended
[38:46] and we were graded with gratitude and a
[38:48] willingness to hear our concerns.
[38:52] Uh we overflowed three different rooms
[38:56] and everyone was allowed one minute to
[38:58] share their concern about mandatory
[39:00] vaccines
[39:02] and as long as they didn't repeat the
[39:04] same problem and we were thanked for
[39:07] coming and in the end our concerns were
[39:11] heard and it helped them say no to
[39:14] mandatory vaccinations.
[39:16] what has been happening with the data
[39:18] center.
[39:20] Even the commissioners have felt like
[39:22] they've been blindsided,
[39:24] which doesn't encourage trust of what's
[39:27] going on. It's a mess.
[39:31] And um
[39:33] the attitude is is our const we don't
[39:36] have any constitutional rights, but we
[39:40] exercised that at the capital during CO.
[39:43] So it appears to me if we didn't have
[39:47] constitutional rights, what is this big
[39:50] push to bypass our rights
[39:55] to have a say to have a clarity of
[39:58] what's going on and actually get to the
[40:00] facts. I don't think we've been given
[40:03] the facts.
[40:04] And my biggest concern is if this goes
[40:07] through,
[40:09] how do we trust that the permits that
[40:14] have been given out weren't bought
[40:19] uh actually occurred.
[40:22] We need a way to know
[40:25] that what we're concerned about is
[40:28] addressed and is verified and that we
[40:32] have a way or a control. I keep getting
[40:36] told we can't do anything. We just have
[40:39] to go along. And that's not true.
[40:43] And just as President Reagan used to
[40:46] say, trust and verify. I want to know
[40:51] for sure
[40:53] that these permits are real. I want to
[40:57] know for sure they're verified.
[41:00] And I really want it not to even happen.
[41:03] Thank you. And I didn't read it, but it
[41:07] says the same thing.
[41:09] >> Thank you. [applause]
[41:13] Miguel Durant,
[41:26] » thank you for the time.
[41:28] >> Um,
[41:30] >> I have mostly questions and I realize
[41:32] you can't answer them, but they're
[41:34] Miguel Durant.
[41:38] Um
[41:40] the first thing I'd like to know is the
[41:42] how the um owners slash builders are
[41:46] going to power the data center. Is it
[41:49] going to be um from the existing
[41:53] infrastructure? Is it going to be
[41:56] um gas turbines or is it going to be
[41:59] nuclear? Um and each one of those has
[42:02] additional questions. Um the gas
[42:05] turbines generally are going to inc uh
[42:08] impact our um
[42:11] our uh air quality and nuclear. Um I'd
[42:16] like to know what kind of safety
[42:19] um concerns they have.
[42:23] Uh [sighs and gasps]
[42:25] secondly, I'd like to know about the
[42:27] water. Um again, they're going to be um
[42:32] a lot of water used. um not only in
[42:34] construction
[42:36] uh but um in the uh um day-to-day use of
[42:41] the the facility.
[42:44] Um where they going to get the water
[42:45] from? Uh is there going to be a recycle
[42:50] a recycled system or is it going to come
[42:52] from one of the rivers and then dumped
[42:56] back out uh which creates uh heat
[42:59] issues.
[43:01] And um the other thing that I'm
[43:03] concerned about is um the number of
[43:06] jobs. Um I understand there's going to
[43:09] be quite a few jobs during the
[43:10] construction, but um after that's all
[43:14] done, I'd like to know how many
[43:15] permanent jobs are going to be um in the
[43:19] fac from the facility and are they going
[43:22] to bring in people from all over the
[43:24] country? Um, are they going to consider
[43:27] uh maybe training some people from
[43:30] Boxelder County to take some of those
[43:32] jobs? Um,
[43:34] and
[43:35] >> [snorts]
[43:35] >> uh,
[43:37] those are my main concerns. Thank you.
[43:39] >> Thank you,
[43:41] >> Shane Jenkins.
[43:51] » [snorts]
[43:59] » Commissioners,
[44:01] appreciate the opportunity to sit before
[44:03] you.
[44:05] Um, I understand I was at been to all
[44:08] the meetings. Well, not the first one
[44:10] here, but the county meeting of the at
[44:11] the fairgrounds and heard the responses
[44:13] and everything. I understand. I know
[44:16] some of your family members. Um, and so
[44:18] I've got kind of a third-party
[44:22] um, explanation of what was put upon
[44:24] your gentleman's shoulders, the lack of
[44:28] foresight. Well, you know, you you guys
[44:29] were blindsided from what I understand.
[44:32] You said you had no choice. You said
[44:36] that it was presented to you something
[44:37] like we either vote for it and have some
[44:40] say or we can stand against it and get
[44:42] run over and not have any say. So
[44:45] basically, you voted for the lesser of
[44:47] two evils.
[44:50] >> I still voting for evil, gentlemen.
[44:53] >> Yes.
[44:54] >> For sure.
[44:55] >> Yes.
[44:56] >> Best thing ever said.
[44:58] >> Pull it down.
[44:59] >> You pull it down
[45:00] >> if this goes through. Excuse me. I have
[45:02] the floor.
[45:04] >> Yeah.
[45:06] >> You're cutting in my time.
[45:08] >> Where? Sorry.
[45:09] >> That's okay. um
[45:13] if this goes through and what the
[45:14] scientists say is accurate because we
[45:17] don't have any. It's all speculation,
[45:18] right? All sides. Well, except for the
[45:20] people that really know. I think this
[45:22] whole thing is stepping it back to
[45:23] 10,000 acres was the goal all along. And
[45:27] you guys said, "Let's go 40 cuz they're
[45:29] going to scream. And when they scream,
[45:30] we'll cut it back to 10 and get what we
[45:32] want." I think this whole thing is a
[45:34] bunch of bad actors and a comedy reality
[45:36] TV show.
[45:37] >> Yeah.
[45:39] We see through it. It's the old story of
[45:41] the emperor has no clothes. Remember
[45:43] that in school? [snorts]
[45:45] Do you remember that story? Oh, you
[45:47] can't answer.
[45:49] You guys need to look up the emperor has
[45:50] no clothes because your highness, we see
[45:54] your nakedness.
[45:56] And if this goes through and paints this
[45:58] valley like the speculation is and
[46:01] destroys our land and our homes and
[46:02] creates all the atmospheric toxic dusts
[46:05] and things to creates destroys the the
[46:09] farmland and the mountain everything
[46:10] that we've come to love here.
[46:13] It's my belief if that happens and we
[46:16] make it this far that your descendants
[46:19] will curse you to the 10th generation.
[46:22] That's all I have to say. And I excuse
[46:24] myself for this. [applause]
[46:28] » Stephanie man, [cheering]
[46:33] Stephanie Man.
[46:41] I'm Stephanie Mangum. I live in
[46:43] Deweyville.
[46:45] So, I just want to uh make us all aware
[46:50] of a process that's already in the works
[46:54] and things that they've had to go
[46:56] through to get to where they're at. And
[46:58] they're in California. It's Monterey
[47:00] Park. And I'm just going to read a
[47:02] little bit about what they're doing.
[47:05] Residents in Monterey Park, California
[47:07] became the first in the US to vote on a
[47:09] permanent ban on data centers on
[47:12] Tuesday. This was a week ago.
[47:15] and early results indicate a resounding
[47:18] victory for the prohibition.
[47:21] While many cities and countries have
[47:22] already passed temporary or indefinite
[47:25] mon moratoriums
[47:27] via their local governments, Monterey
[47:29] Park would be the first to do so through
[47:31] a ballot initiative.
[47:34] The ballot measure needs a majority
[47:37] vote, at least 51% to win. And a week
[47:41] ago, as of 2 am Pacific time, 86.3
[47:45] of more than 7,000 bo voters counted so
[47:49] far were in favor of banning data
[47:51] centers. 86.3% of the people, which I
[47:55] feel is very relative to here.
[47:58] While it can take days to finalize
[48:01] election results, the stark gap was
[48:04] enough evidence for Joseé Sanchez, a
[48:07] city council member, to claim a
[48:08] landslide victory for residents who
[48:11] don't want to live near data centers.
[48:14] This shows unequivocally that residents
[48:16] in Monterey Park do not want data
[48:18] centers in their communities, Sanchez
[48:20] said. We hope that other communities
[48:23] will use the model set by residents here
[48:26] in Monterey Park as inspiration to stop
[48:28] data centers from encroaching in their
[48:30] backyards.
[48:32] Monterey Park City Council had already
[48:34] passed an indefinite moratorium on data
[48:37] centers in April.
[48:40] And then skipping a little, being able
[48:42] to go to court, and this is concerning
[48:47] anything that has a prior agreement can
[48:50] still be taken to court. So being able
[48:53] to go to court and say the residents of
[48:56] Monterey Park voted to ban data data
[48:58] centers is a much better gauge for where
[49:01] our residents are versus only five city
[49:05] council members voted for an ordinance,
[49:08] said Sanchez.
[49:10] So,
[49:12] the referendum that was dismissed last I
[49:15] heard, they're trying to readress that,
[49:18] bring it back into your vote. And this
[49:21] is something that you,
[49:24] if this place can do this, this can be
[49:27] done. We can pass things like this. Even
[49:30] if you do have the dark elites
[49:33] threatening you, can't knuckle under. You're now
[49:38] speaking for not just thousands in the
[49:42] box county. It's the environmental
[49:45] northern Utah. You're speaking for
[49:46] millions.
[49:47] >> Times up. Thank you.
[49:48] >> Help us.
[49:49] >> Yeah. [applause]
[49:56] » Max Hansen.
[49:58] [clears throat]
[50:12] Thank you, commissioners. Uh, Mr.
[50:13] Hadfield. My name is Max Hansen. I
[50:16] reside in Garland, Utah. Uh, I'm a Utah
[50:19] resident, a county resident, and and a
[50:21] voter here now. Um, even though I own a
[50:23] home and other property in Montana. Uh I
[50:26] moved here approximately 20 years ago
[50:28] and I married a lady from here and I
[50:30] chose to raise my family here uh in
[50:32] spite of the fact that I came from a
[50:34] largely rural area. Um I liked Boxelder
[50:38] County because of the friends and
[50:39] neighbors I've met here and the and the
[50:42] ability that I have to still live in a
[50:44] community that has a good mix of
[50:46] industry, light industry and and
[50:48] basically an agricultural economy. Uh in
[50:52] spite of what some people may think, I'm here to commend both of you, all of
[50:56] you gentlemen, uh the county attorney,
[50:59] the deputy county attorney, the other
[51:02] law enforcement officers in this county
[51:04] that have taken a lot of uh verbal abuse
[51:08] and uh written abuse from people that I
[51:12] don't think understand the implications
[51:13] of what you folks have been dealing
[51:15] with. Um, and it it has to do with the
[51:19] Stratus project. Obviously, in my view,
[51:22] you folks have been sacrificial lambs
[51:24] that have been put on the altar by
[51:26] Governor Cox, the Maida board, the
[51:29] developer who hatched this plan uh a
[51:33] long time ago and then laid it laid it
[51:36] in front of you folks with very little
[51:37] warning and not enough tools to deal
[51:40] with the situation. There have been
[51:42] other inconsiderate people without a
[51:44] full grasp of the facts that eliminated
[51:47] the possibility of any reasonable
[51:48] discourse in the public meetings we've
[51:50] had where residents of this county that
[51:52] just wanted to find out more information
[51:54] didn't have the ability to do so. But in
[51:57] my view, the blame for this whole
[51:59] situation lays at the feet of Governor
[52:01] Cox, his staff, the mighta board, and
[52:03] others that don't have any [applause]
[52:06] that don't have any respect for the
[52:08] residents of be of Boxelder County. Um,
[52:12] they give some they chin music is what I
[52:17] call it. They're willing to talk all
[52:19] about the respect they have for our
[52:21] rural communities and the values and the
[52:23] culture that we have in this rural
[52:24] community of ours. But when it comes
[52:26] right down to the nitty-gritty, I
[52:29] question whether or not that's the case.
[52:31] In my view, you've done your jobs under
[52:33] great stress and threat of personal
[52:35] safety. The fact that you folks have had
[52:38] to have law enforcement officers at your
[52:40] homes to protect you and that law
[52:42] enforcement officers have been put at
[52:43] risk and other emergency personnel have
[52:45] been put at risk because of
[52:46] inconsiderate people that are not even
[52:49] residents of this county is inexcusable.
[52:52] uh the governors of there's they talk
[52:54] about you know preserving our quality of
[52:56] life uh but in my view they've failed
[52:59] miserably and they've diverted the
[53:01] entire downside of this whole project to
[53:03] the people of Boxelder County and
[53:05] especially its elected officials and I
[53:08] again commend you for your dedication
[53:10] and service to the residents of Boxelder
[53:12] County. Thank you very much, [applause]
[53:18] » Bridget Cotm.
[53:28] Hey. Uh, I'm Bridget Cotm. I have lived
[53:31] in Boxelder County in Brigham City for
[53:33] over 30 years of my life. From the very
[53:36] beginning of this whole fiasco, you have
[53:38] been condescending and outright
[53:39] disrespectful to the very people who
[53:40] voted you in. when you yelled at
[53:42] residents for hell's sakes grow up then
[53:45] left the room you broke public trust you
[53:48] at the very least you owe all of us an
[53:50] apology for that behavior if and if
[53:52] there has been one I haven't seen or
[53:53] heard it and now now you are bringing up
[53:57] a moratorium on future data centers
[53:59] instead of before when there could have
[54:01] been a chance to save this place
[54:03] >> did you not expect the push back we gave
[54:05] you think that we would just let these
[54:07] data centers roll in here and destroy
[54:09] our way of life our resources and our
[54:10] water without a second thought as we see
[54:12] online what the data centers are doing
[54:14] to our neighbors in other states. Why
[54:16] didn't you pass a moratorium on data
[54:18] centers before all of this happened? If
[54:20] you had taken a responsible pause to
[54:21] study the impacts on our forest
[54:23] community study the if you had taken a
[54:26] responsible pause to study the impacts
[54:27] on our community first, the residents
[54:28] would have respected you a hell of a lot
[54:30] more than we do now. A moratorium is the
[54:32] right tool, but it is being used here as
[54:34] a reactive damage control mechanism
[54:36] because you underestimated the people in
[54:37] this room. [applause]
[54:40] I hope you've learned a lot of valuable
[54:42] lessons throughout this whole
[54:43] experience.
[54:45] Hopefully, this moratorium vote tonight
[54:47] will be the first step in actually
[54:48] listening to your constituents, fixing
[54:50] our land use codes, and ensuring that
[54:51] Boxelder County's resources are never
[54:53] jeopardized like this again. At this
[54:55] point, we are both mad and disappointed.
[54:57] Thank you.
[54:58] >> Thank you, [applause]
[55:00] Carlos Martinez.
[55:13] » Okay. Farah.
[55:21] » Hello, commissioners. My name is Farah
[55:23] Ply. I'm a Tremont resident and most
[55:25] importantly, I'm a mother. I don't want
[55:28] to be standing. I I don't want to be
[55:30] sitting here, but it's important that my
[55:32] girls see and understand that our voices
[55:34] matter and that they should be used for
[55:36] good. I've taught them not to blindly
[55:39] follow authority, not to accept
[55:41] something to be true simply because
[55:43] someone in a position of power says that
[55:45] it is. I've taught them to ask
[55:47] questions, do their own research, think
[55:49] critically, form their own opinions, and
[55:51] never allow anyone to silence them. My
[55:54] oldest daughter is 11. She's actually
[55:56] the one who educated me about AI. She
[55:58] introduced me to the conversations
[56:00] surrounding it, encouraged me to learn
[56:02] more, and sparked many of the questions
[56:03] surrounding the Strato Status Center
[56:05] that you've approved. These kids are my
[56:08] driving force, and they may not
[56:10] completely understand it now, but I want
[56:12] them to remember that their mother stood
[56:13] alongside many others in this community
[56:16] and fought for their future. With this
[56:18] data center, we've asked questions
[56:20] repeatedly, and we still don't have the
[56:22] answers that our community deserve. We
[56:25] discuss we're discussing a project that
[56:27] could permanently shape the state that
[56:29] these children grow up in. The air they
[56:32] breathe, the water they depend on, the
[56:34] future of the Great Salt Lake and the
[56:35] communities connected to it. We have
[56:37] seen the repercussions of these data
[56:39] centers, and the cons outweigh the pros
[56:41] tfold.
[56:43] The stakes are way too high not to fight
[56:45] against this. It is my responsibility as
[56:47] a mother to sit here today and oppose a
[56:49] decision that so many residents believe
[56:51] was made without sufficient studies,
[56:53] transparency, or public input. I
[56:55] understand that you were placed in a
[56:57] difficult position.
[56:59] But I will never believe that you had no
[57:01] choice. You always had a choice. And if
[57:03] you had chosen to stand with the people
[57:04] that you represent, this community would
[57:06] have stood with you and we could have
[57:08] fought it together. Instead, we have
[57:10] been dismissed repeatedly, and now it's
[57:12] time. And now it's become the public
[57:15] representatives versus the public, and
[57:17] we never wanted that. I've heard excuse
[57:20] after excuse and zero accountability,
[57:22] which includes blaming protesters who
[57:24] had every right to be upset and acting
[57:26] like you owe us nothing after the fact
[57:28] when your job is quite literally to
[57:30] serve the public.
[57:31] >> Yes, [applause]
[57:32] >> a moratorum is a great step forward, but
[57:34] these conversations should have happened
[57:36] before approvals were granted, not
[57:38] after.
[57:39] The purpose of a moratorum is to create
[57:41] space for study, analysis, transparency,
[57:44] and public input before decisions are
[57:46] made. Those are the very things this
[57:47] community was asking for from the
[57:49] beginning. The ball was dropped in a
[57:51] major way. And if this thing moves
[57:53] forward, it will be at the detriment to
[57:55] everybody here. Our children will
[57:57] remember who fought for them and who
[57:58] didn't. To my girls and all of our kids,
[58:01] your voice matters. Ask questions. Think
[58:03] for yourself. Stand up when something
[58:05] isn't right, even if your voice shakes.
[58:07] and commissioners, there is still time
[58:10] to do better moving forward and you have
[58:12] a voice, too. Thanks, [applause]
[58:20] » Cheryl Compton.
[58:31] Commissioners, thank you for your time.
[58:33] I'm Cheryl Compton. I am from Brigham City and you've heard a lot
[58:39] about the data center water and power
[58:41] demands and the concerns about that that
[58:43] are very valid and warrant serious
[58:46] investigation. But there's another
[58:48] threat uh that to my knowledge has not
[58:51] been brought to this council. It's
[58:53] invisible to the eye but very real and I
[58:57] believe it may ultimately pose a greater
[58:59] risk to the health of Boxelder County
[59:01] residents than the water question. That
[59:04] threat is idiopathic environmental
[59:07] intolerance attributed to
[59:08] electromagnetic fields or in other words
[59:12] frequency poisoning. I'm a doctor of
[59:15] metaphysics and for the last 17 years
[59:17] I've worked with clients on mental and
[59:19] emotional issues that often cause
[59:22] physical problems in the body. In the
[59:24] recent years, an increasing number of
[59:27] them have exhibited symptoms that
[59:29] definitively point towards frequency
[59:32] poisoning. These symptoms include
[59:34] anxiety, chronic pain, sleep disruption,
[59:37] fatigue, hormonal diseases, and
[59:39] autoimmune disorders.
[59:41] There are innumerable scientific studies
[59:44] supporting the fact that these are not
[59:45] theoretical harms but widespread
[59:48] problems that people are experiencing.
[59:50] People are not connecting their symptoms
[59:53] to the invisible disruptive frequencies
[59:55] that are now all around us. Large scale
[59:58] data centers like the one proposed in
[1:00:00] our county are significant continuous
[1:00:03] emitters of the radio frequencies and
[1:00:05] microwave radiation I'm describing. In
[1:00:08] addition, their industrial cooling
[1:00:10] systems generate constant low frequency
[1:00:13] acoustic output and in some cases that
[1:00:16] is infrasound. Um, and that has its own
[1:00:19] documented repercussions on the
[1:00:21] autonomic nervous system. These have no
[1:00:24] limit as far as how far they can travel.
[1:00:26] So, putting them in the corner of the
[1:00:27] county won't help much. The data centers
[1:00:30] adhere to FCC exposure guidelines, but
[1:00:33] these were set in 1996.
[1:00:36] They don't take into account what
[1:00:38] chronic low-level long-term exposure of
[1:00:40] detrimental waveforms does to the human
[1:00:43] nervous system, the um immune system and
[1:00:48] the um endocrine system.
[1:00:50] We don't want to be the guinea pigs to
[1:00:53] find out what that is or we don't want
[1:00:56] the surveillance aspect that Diana Hardy
[1:00:59] mentioned either. This data center was
[1:01:01] imposed on this county and you agreed to
[1:01:03] a seat at the table in order to have
[1:01:05] some influence over what seemed
[1:01:07] inevitable with this moratorum. Use that
[1:01:10] influence. Be the heroes. Conduct a
[1:01:13] genuine independent investigation on
[1:01:16] those frequencies.
[1:01:19] If the investigation reveals what I
[1:01:21] believe it will about the health and
[1:01:23] environmental cost of this facility, it
[1:01:26] will give this county the opportunity to
[1:01:28] say no to it.
[1:01:30] keep every option open, including that
[1:01:33] of stopping this project entirely. Thank
[1:01:37] you,
[1:01:39] [applause]
[1:01:44] » Christine Nelson.
[1:01:56] » Thank you, commissioners, for giving us
[1:01:57] an opportunity to speak tonight. My name
[1:01:59] is Christine Nelson. I'm a resident of Brigham City. First off, I want to
[1:02:04] let you know how sorry I am that you've
[1:02:06] experienced threats and vandalism over
[1:02:08] the Stratus project. That is not okay. I
[1:02:12] want to recognize that you were set up
[1:02:13] to take the public fall over this
[1:02:16] project and that wasn't fair. I want to
[1:02:19] thank you for the motion tonight to
[1:02:21] remove the county from the inland port.
[1:02:22] Moving away from these questionable
[1:02:24] government corporate development areas
[1:02:27] is a step in the right direction.
[1:02:30] I recognize that the moratorium on data
[1:02:32] centers shows that you see that the
[1:02:35] stratus project caught the commission
[1:02:37] unprepared.
[1:02:41] I hope that you recognize that you
[1:02:43] represented the people of Boxelder
[1:02:44] poorly in this instance. You could and
[1:02:47] should have pushed for studies to be
[1:02:49] completed before entering into an
[1:02:51] agreement with Maida. You could and
[1:02:54] should have investigated Maida itself
[1:02:55] more thoroughly before you made a deal
[1:02:57] with the devil. You could and should
[1:03:00] have created an opportunity for
[1:03:01] residents to speak out on the project.
[1:03:03] You could and should have pressed for a
[1:03:05] better financial package, especially for
[1:03:08] our schools.
[1:03:10] The impacts of this project will be
[1:03:12] farreaching. our land, our air, our
[1:03:15] water, our wildlife, our health, our
[1:03:18] very way of life. We can't eat data. We
[1:03:22] can't breathe data. We can't drink data.
[1:03:27] I hope that moving forward, you will do
[1:03:29] everything in the county's power to
[1:03:31] restrict this project. Make this as
[1:03:35] difficult as possible for Maida.
[1:03:38] Please represent the citizens who voted
[1:03:40] for you and stand as a roadblock in the
[1:03:42] way of a project that will forever alter
[1:03:45] our way of life. Thank you,
[1:03:49] [applause]
[1:03:52] » Daryl W.
[1:04:03] Good evening, commissioners. My name is
[1:04:05] Carolyn Lindseay and I am a resident of
[1:04:07] Boxelder County. I live in Honeyville.
[1:04:09] I'm here tonight to offer my support of
[1:04:11] ordinance 654, the moratorium on data
[1:04:14] centers, but I have two concerns that I
[1:04:16] want to put on record. First, 6 months
[1:04:18] is not enough. Extend it to at least 12.
[1:04:22] Second, the residents of this county
[1:04:24] have been very clear. We've shown up.
[1:04:26] We've spoken. We've been loud. And we've
[1:04:28] been very clear. The message has been
[1:04:30] consistent. We do not want data centers.
[1:04:32] Period. I asked I asked the commission
[1:04:35] to use this moratorium period to build a
[1:04:38] framework that genuinely reflects what
[1:04:40] this community wants. That means
[1:04:42] amending the general plan to explicitly
[1:04:45] identify data centers as incompatible
[1:04:47] with Box Center County's rural
[1:04:49] character, agricultural land, and water
[1:04:51] conservation goals. It means crafting
[1:04:54] sighting requirements, water
[1:04:56] availability, grid capacity setbacks
[1:04:58] that refle reflect the real constraints
[1:05:00] of this county. And it means creating
[1:05:02] zoning classifications that don't just
[1:05:04] regulate these facilities, but make it
[1:05:06] clear that this county is simply not an
[1:05:08] appropriate place for them. That's not a
[1:05:10] ban. That's honest land land use
[1:05:13] planning and and it's exactly what a
[1:05:15] moratorium is for. So
[1:05:19] make the moratorium 12 months and use
[1:05:21] that time to build something that
[1:05:22] actually reflects the will of the people
[1:05:24] who live here. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:05:28] [applause]
[1:05:31] Dave Hogard.
[1:05:38] » Good evening. Thank you for your time,
[1:05:40] commissioners. It's my pleasure to be
[1:05:42] here. My name is Dave Hoggard. I'm a
[1:05:44] resident of Honeyville. Um, I'm a post
[1:05:46] of the data center, yada yada yada. Uh,
[1:05:50] that's not why I'm here to speak, okay?
[1:05:52] I'm here to tell you how much I admire
[1:05:55] the three of you for standing up to your
[1:05:58] oath and supporting the constitutional
[1:06:00] rights of those people that own that
[1:06:02] property to sell that property. We hear
[1:06:05] all kinds of jibberjabber on social
[1:06:07] media and the newspaper about what
[1:06:10] property rights the constitution
[1:06:12] guarantees and there's really only
[1:06:15] three, right? We don't have to put the
[1:06:19] government forces on our property at our
[1:06:21] expense. government can't take our land
[1:06:23] without compensation.
[1:06:25] We can buy and we can sell land, right?
[1:06:29] That's it. You guys voted to let those
[1:06:31] people sell their property, which is
[1:06:33] your constitutional obligation. And I so
[1:06:36] admire that. So many people seem to not
[1:06:39] understand what the oath is that you
[1:06:41] took. Now, you'll have people say you
[1:06:43] don't support your oath because you do
[1:06:45] zoning. Supreme Court who gets to
[1:06:47] interpret the Constitution said zoning's
[1:06:49] okay. Not going to get into that whole
[1:06:51] thing, but I admire you gentlemen for
[1:06:54] your support. Uh, in my opinion, saving
[1:06:58] us, the county all kinds of money with
[1:07:02] lawsuits because as soon as you take
[1:07:04] away my constitutional right to sell the
[1:07:05] property, I'll take you to court and the
[1:07:08] county will pay for that and the county
[1:07:09] would have lost. So, I admire you. Thank
[1:07:12] you for your service.
[1:07:15] No to moratoriums. When you have a say,
[1:07:22] Michael Smith.
[1:07:40] » You guys look tired. You guys as tired
[1:07:43] as you look. I feel pretty tired. I got
[1:07:45] off work six o'clock this morning.
[1:07:48] I don't know what to say here because
[1:07:50] it's all been said.
[1:07:53] I know that this matters very much to
[1:07:55] our future.
[1:08:00] [sighs]
[1:08:04] I would applaud you for the moratorum
[1:08:08] except if I'm not mistaken the obvious
[1:08:11] elephant in the room is that it has no
[1:08:12] effect on this project that we all care
[1:08:15] about.
[1:08:16] This is after the fact too little too
[1:08:20] late. It's nice to pave the way to a
[1:08:24] moratorum for the future so that we have
[1:08:27] time to analyze the impacts of the
[1:08:31] effects of any future data centers. But
[1:08:33] by damn, we had that time before, didn't
[1:08:35] we? We had that opportunity before,
[1:08:38] didn't we? Had the opportunity to
[1:08:41] examine the effects of this.
[1:08:44] Let's not pretend that during this
[1:08:45] moratorum we're going to do the
[1:08:47] environmental impact studies and the
[1:08:49] things that were already bypassed.
[1:08:52] We're already well past that. So this
[1:08:54] mortorium is nothing but plation.
[1:08:58] You could have used the time that you
[1:08:59] had before. And it's nice to have a
[1:09:02] lawyer here to say that everything was
[1:09:04] done accurate as far as the meetings go,
[1:09:08] [snorts] but our county money and your
[1:09:11] time, your time and our county money was
[1:09:14] committed towards the analysis
[1:09:19] and approval and facilitating this
[1:09:22] project
[1:09:24] when none of us heard about it. So,
[1:09:28] I can see that the attorney that was
[1:09:31] also part of that money that was laid
[1:09:32] out would be here to say that you did it
[1:09:34] all right. And I want to know that you
[1:09:36] did because, you know, we can't know any
[1:09:40] different. But we're not going to sleep.
[1:09:44] We're not going to stop looking at this
[1:09:46] and this isn't over.
[1:09:48] I just would ask again like so many here
[1:09:51] have appealed to you guys. I never ever
[1:09:54] came to these meeting. I've never been
[1:09:56] to one before. Like I told you last
[1:09:57] time, May the 4th, I I didn't even know
[1:10:00] what was going on. And I sure didn't
[1:10:02] show up to make you guys our enemies.
[1:10:04] You should be our allies in this.
[1:10:07] You should be with us in this and
[1:10:08] hearing this now. And despite what you
[1:10:10] were blindsided with and what agreements
[1:10:12] were made, I believe very much that you
[1:10:15] did it believing that it was in the best
[1:10:17] interest and the mandate and the will of
[1:10:19] the people. But you know that isn't the
[1:10:21] case now.
[1:10:23] there's we're going to do what we can on
[1:10:25] our own, but as many others have said, I
[1:10:29] think we would all rather do this in
[1:10:30] partnership with you guys. And I thank
[1:10:33] you again for your time and your service
[1:10:35] and all that you do. And it is absolute
[1:10:37] that you put up with any kind
[1:10:39] of, you know, direct attacks, anything
[1:10:44] uh threats and any of that kind of stuff
[1:10:46] because that's not the people that we
[1:10:47] are. But we do care about protecting our
[1:10:50] future and this beautiful place that we
[1:10:53] live in for our children. Thank you.
[1:10:55] >> Thank you.
[1:10:57] [applause]
[1:11:02] » Christine Lewis.
[1:11:07] » What was your name?
[1:11:08] >> Christine Lewis.
[1:11:18] Hi, thank you for hearing me today. My
[1:11:20] name is Christine Lewis and I am I over
[1:11:23] the last 40 years have lived in Wever
[1:11:25] County, Davis County, and Boxelder
[1:11:28] County. I own a home. I have three adult
[1:11:31] children. I have two grandchildren. I
[1:11:34] have many concerns, including what this
[1:11:36] data center would do to the fact that my
[1:11:39] children can't buy homes. They're priced
[1:11:41] out of the market. I bought a house at
[1:11:44] 18.
[1:11:45] My children are in their 20s and still
[1:11:47] can't afford a home. What will this data
[1:11:49] center do to the economy? What will this
[1:11:51] data center do to the water? I've been
[1:11:53] told I shouldn't water my lawn. I've
[1:11:56] been told that there is a drought and
[1:11:58] that I should allow my grass to die.
[1:12:00] What will this data center do to our
[1:12:02] water?
[1:12:03] I've been told that I should limit my
[1:12:05] electricity. I get a letter every month,
[1:12:07] an email every month comparing how much
[1:12:10] electricity I used to my neighbors.
[1:12:12] letting me know that I need to be a
[1:12:14] conscious citizen and be aware of the
[1:12:16] electricity that I use.
[1:12:18] Yet, we're looking at a data center that
[1:12:22] I don't know the data, but I know what
[1:12:24] I've heard. It will use more electricity
[1:12:26] than all of us combined.
[1:12:29] And this isn't a Boxelder County issue.
[1:12:32] This is a northern Utah issue. This will
[1:12:34] impact Weber County. This will impact
[1:12:37] Cash Valley County. This will impact a
[1:12:40] lot of people.
[1:12:42] For me, raising my children, it was
[1:12:44] important to me that I taught my
[1:12:46] children to stand up for what was right,
[1:12:47] even when it was hard. And I know what
[1:12:50] you guys are going through is hard. But
[1:12:53] you were appointed to be our leaders.
[1:12:55] And sometimes leaders have to stand even
[1:12:57] when it's hard. The people in this room
[1:13:00] are showing you that this is not what we
[1:13:02] want.
[1:13:04] I have to get a permit if I want to do
[1:13:07] certain things with the property I own.
[1:13:09] If I want to put a shed in my backyard,
[1:13:11] it has to be approved.
[1:13:14] Why are we not pushing back? Why are we
[1:13:16] not standing up for what the people
[1:13:18] want?
[1:13:20] I have friends in Weber County, Davis
[1:13:22] County, Cash Valley, this whole area. I
[1:13:25] haven't spoken to a single person that
[1:13:27] is okay with this.
[1:13:30] We need you to be their voice. We need
[1:13:32] you to stand up even if it's hard. We
[1:13:34] will support you. We need you to support
[1:13:37] us.
[1:13:39] Thank you.
[1:13:41] >> Thank you [applause]
[1:13:45] Sanders.
[1:13:57] » Okay,
[1:14:01] » you can probably take this one off.
[1:14:07] I think that's the one.
[1:14:12] » That one's wired. I don't
[1:14:15] >> think
[1:14:19] [clears throat]
[1:14:52] Can everyone hear me? Ah,
[1:14:54] >> my name is Aurelia Saunders and I would
[1:14:56] like to ask, did you know that in 1894
[1:15:00] Utah was the first state to pass an
[1:15:02] envir environmental protection law? When
[1:15:06] Utah was not even yet a state, it was
[1:15:08] still a territory.
[1:15:10] We have long believed in being an
[1:15:12] industrious people in Utah. However,
[1:15:15] being industrious and industry are not
[1:15:18] the same thing.
[1:15:20] We are a hardworking state with strong
[1:15:23] agricultural roots. The law that was
[1:15:26] passed, the first of its kind, was to
[1:15:29] protect the hardworking industrious
[1:15:31] farmers and ranchers, the people of the
[1:15:34] state from modern industry which was
[1:15:38] polluting and damaging the land. We have
[1:15:41] claimed stewardship over.
[1:15:44] What happened?
[1:15:46] The words of being industrious,
[1:15:49] practicing conservation and stewardship
[1:15:52] are still spoken, but their meaning has
[1:15:55] been lost.
[1:15:57] This moratorum sounds like too little
[1:16:00] too late. As was said earlier,
[1:16:02] it's a start, but you're pushing the
[1:16:04] barn door closed after the horses are
[1:16:06] gone. or are you planning to approve
[1:16:08] more data centers?
[1:16:14] If it can't find a way to address the
[1:16:16] current data center,
[1:16:18] how can we fix the problem?
[1:16:22] And I also want to know where Scott
[1:16:23] Sandall is. What is his role in this
[1:16:26] data center? He is our Senate
[1:16:28] representative. As has been said, we
[1:16:31] know that you were set up to be the fall
[1:16:33] guys. Yes, you could have handled the
[1:16:35] situation much better. You could not
[1:16:37] have demeaned the people of Boxelder.
[1:16:42] » But where is Sandal?
[1:16:45] I know he has been buying land out in
[1:16:47] that area for a couple years.
[1:16:50] So, what is his part in this as our
[1:16:53] representative in the Senate? Thank you.
[1:16:57] [applause]
[1:16:59] And
[1:16:59] >> my name is Ourelia Saunders again.
[1:17:02] >> Thank you.
[1:17:04] Andy Johnson.
[1:17:16] » Good evening, gentlemen. Um, Andy
[1:17:18] Johnson here. Um, I don't live in
[1:17:23] Boxeller County. Um, I do have some
[1:17:26] interests in some uh in a ski resort
[1:17:28] that will be very negatively affected by
[1:17:32] what I understand as the effect of the
[1:17:34] data centers and I'm concerned about
[1:17:36] that. is concerned about uh the
[1:17:40] watershed. Um the uh you know you you
[1:17:44] raise the nighttime temperature from
[1:17:46] what I understand 20 plus degrees and
[1:17:50] that has a profound effect on the entire
[1:17:54] ecosystem that we have here in the
[1:17:56] northern part of the state. Um, you
[1:18:00] know, I remember a time when when men
[1:18:01] were men and women were women. When uh
[1:18:05] when a man's word was was his bond, when
[1:18:08] law enforcement were peace officers,
[1:18:11] and when public servants were considered
[1:18:15] um public servants and not leaders. Um
[1:18:19] you all have taken oaths of office. uh I
[1:18:22] accept your oath of office and uh would ask you to reconsider what you've
[1:18:27] already done. If you look at a contract,
[1:18:30] any valid contract requires full
[1:18:33] disclosure. If there's any kind of fraud
[1:18:35] or lack of full disclosure with that
[1:18:37] contract, that contract's null and void.
[1:18:40] So, if you've made agreements with Maida
[1:18:42] or some of these other organizations
[1:18:45] that are based on false information or
[1:18:49] um lack of full disclosure, those
[1:18:51] contracts are void. You have your out
[1:18:54] there. Um uh you have an opportunity to
[1:18:58] reverse this and you should. It's
[1:19:00] evident from my observations that the
[1:19:03] people in this room, the vast majority
[1:19:06] of them are here because they do not
[1:19:08] want this. Um there are a lot of farmers
[1:19:11] up in Cash Valley where I'm from that um
[1:19:15] are very concerned about rainfall. Um
[1:19:18] you raise the temperature uh which a
[1:19:21] data center would do and you're not
[1:19:24] going to get any rain here. I have
[1:19:26] family down in Phoenix and Phoenix
[1:19:28] doesn't get rain like it used to
[1:19:29] anymore. you've got all these massive uh
[1:19:32] solar collectors and people moving in
[1:19:34] and the heat arising from the city makes
[1:19:37] the rain go everywhere but in the city.
[1:19:40] Uh that's the kind of thing that you're
[1:19:41] going to have here with that many acres
[1:19:44] of heat generating
[1:19:46] um microprocessors.
[1:19:49] The other thing that's very very
[1:19:50] concerning is is the water. It's not
[1:19:52] just taking water in and putting water
[1:19:55] back out. You've got to cool it. So that
[1:19:58] affects the the ground as well. But you
[1:20:01] and I all know that that just look at
[1:20:04] your sink after leaving it unclean for a
[1:20:07] month and you'll see all the hard water
[1:20:09] deposits on your sink. They have to put
[1:20:11] chemistry into that water to keep their
[1:20:14] systems from clogging up and they have
[1:20:16] to put antifungals and whatever in the
[1:20:18] water to u eliminate the uh the buildup
[1:20:22] of of other uh microbes. So where do those chemicals go? Do they go
[1:20:29] back into the water system to be
[1:20:30] consumed by the the general public and
[1:20:32] the aquifers? And what effect does all
[1:20:35] this have on the animals? There are so
[1:20:37] many unanswered questions. And I think
[1:20:39] that that we need to take a step back.
[1:20:43] You you have a duty to the people.
[1:20:45] That's your oath. That's you know I hate
[1:20:48] to get into basic basic civics. I'm out.
[1:20:51] I'm sorry. Thank you.
[1:20:52] >> I hope you give more time to people.
[1:20:53] Thank you.
[1:20:54] >> Thank you.
[1:20:55] >> [applause]
[1:21:00] » Nate Honor.
[1:21:02] [snorts]
[1:21:10] » What's up, gentlemen? My name is Nate
[1:21:12] Warner. I've uh lived here for a long
[1:21:14] time. I think you guys both know my dad,
[1:21:16] which is fun. Um I have a I feel like I
[1:21:21] have a pretty unique perspective. Um, I
[1:21:23] work in IT. I've worked in IT my entire
[1:21:26] life, like entire adult life. Um, worked
[1:21:29] in data centers, both adult jobs. Um,
[1:21:32] know kind of like what goes into this
[1:21:35] kind of stuff. Uh, normal data centers
[1:21:37] is one thing. AI data centers is a
[1:21:40] completely different thing. We just
[1:21:41] recently installed some AI servers into
[1:21:43] our data center.
[1:21:44] um they're like they're worried that
[1:21:48] like fan cooling is no longer going to
[1:21:50] be what we need anymore. Like at my
[1:21:53] entire University of Utah Healthcare,
[1:21:56] like we're we're worried about fans not
[1:21:58] doing the job for a specific two
[1:22:00] servers, right? It's like half of a
[1:22:03] block. It's not even that big. And this project is encompassing 10,000
[1:22:08] acres. And I understand that that's not
[1:22:10] going to be just simple buildings. It's
[1:22:11] going to be the entire property line at
[1:22:13] this point. But I think that with my
[1:22:17] perspective,
[1:22:19] a lot of people with like simply saying,
[1:22:23] "Hey, let's do this because this is
[1:22:24] going to bring in $100 million." It's
[1:22:26] not going to really do much for the
[1:22:28] people of Boxiller County if we can't
[1:22:30] use that money if Utah is uninhabitable,
[1:22:34] right? Like we're we're we're
[1:22:38] Excuse me. [clears throat]
[1:22:40] I'm I'm I've heard this so many times.
[1:22:42] thoughts and prayers, which is complete
[1:22:44] okay? Like I'm I'm a very
[1:22:47] spiritual person and I know you guys are
[1:22:49] probably religious as well. Um I'm all
[1:22:52] for that, right? But we need action.
[1:22:55] Like we need to actually take steps to
[1:22:57] save Utah. We need to do what we need to
[1:23:00] do to make sure that the Great Salt Lake
[1:23:03] still sticks around because that
[1:23:05] provides us snowfall, provides us rain,
[1:23:08] it helps with everything that we need
[1:23:09] here. if we have no water in the Great
[1:23:12] Salt Lake and the dust is blowing and
[1:23:15] people can no longer live here and oh
[1:23:17] cool but I have $100 million right so I
[1:23:21] think I think this whole yeah let's do a
[1:23:23] moratorum that's great but we really
[1:23:26] need to say instead of simply putting in
[1:23:29] additional guardrails in place we need
[1:23:31] to say is it going to be guardrails or
[1:23:34] no what's the actual best plan for us
[1:23:38] I've heard people say Um, this isn't
[1:23:41] only affecting us. It's like the entire
[1:23:42] state of Utah. It's Nevada. It's
[1:23:44] southern Idaho. Like, it's a regional
[1:23:47] thing. This is a Inner Mountain West
[1:23:49] situation. No longer just Boxill County.
[1:23:52] Um, May 4th, interesting enough,
[1:23:55] interestingly enough, I sat next to a
[1:23:56] woman who said, I think she was in her
[1:23:58] 70s, she said around 50 years ago, they
[1:24:00] used to pump data out of the Great Salt
[1:24:01] Lake because there was so much. where am
[1:24:04] I going to be in 50 years telling
[1:24:07] whoever I'm related to what happened
[1:24:10] back in my day? Like we tried to stop
[1:24:11] it, but people didn't listen because uh
[1:24:15] the money makers of the world, the
[1:24:16] billionaires, just wanted to get more
[1:24:17] rich and they don't care about who they
[1:24:19] step on.
[1:24:19] >> Yeah.
[1:24:20] >> So, I think I think we just need to take
[1:24:23] a massive step back. Um
[1:24:26] and I mean, I've talked to my dad about
[1:24:28] you guys. He worked with you. I think
[1:24:30] you were both police officers at one
[1:24:32] point. He said, um, I was like, "Hey,
[1:24:34] where do I need to go take take my car
[1:24:35] to get replaced?" He said, "Go to Berts.
[1:24:37] I know the guy." Like, I want you guys
[1:24:42] to be the people I've heard of instead
[1:24:44] of simply saying
[1:24:46] >> yes or no or no was the worst thing that
[1:24:49] we could have. No was the worst thing
[1:24:51] that we could have said. I think you
[1:24:52] said that in the newspaper the other
[1:24:53] day. I think it's one of those things
[1:24:55] that we need to look at what's right and
[1:24:58] what's wrong, what's ethical and moral
[1:25:01] instead of how much money can we make
[1:25:04] versus
[1:25:06] X. So, thanks guys.
[1:25:08] >> Thank you. [applause]
[1:25:14] » Okay, I hope I don't botch this one.
[1:25:16] Julie
[1:25:18] >> Quinland,
[1:25:20] >> is it Quinnland?
[1:25:21] >> Quinnland. Holy cow. I didn't write it
[1:25:23] very well. [laughter]
[1:25:26] [clears throat] and cough]
[1:25:34] My name is Julie Quinnland and nobody's
[1:25:38] talked yet specifically about Hansel
[1:25:40] Valley. I have talked to a couple of
[1:25:42] ranchers and Hansel Valley is the
[1:25:47] perfect winter rangeand for cattle. You
[1:25:52] know, it you have your summer range and
[1:25:55] then they have this winter range. You
[1:25:57] don't even need alalfa for those cattle
[1:26:00] out there. They can survive on a good
[1:26:02] year. Once in a while there might be a
[1:26:04] bad year where they have to grow alalfa,
[1:26:06] but it's this perfect rangeand.
[1:26:09] And why would we want to change that? Um
[1:26:13] I have also heard from people that they
[1:26:17] are selling the land because it is not
[1:26:20] zoned
[1:26:22] um as farmland as agriculture. So people
[1:26:26] can come in and they can build their
[1:26:29] houses and they can complain, oh these
[1:26:33] cows, they smell bad. And so then what
[1:26:36] do the what do the c what do the farmer
[1:26:38] the ranchers do? Oh, then they have to
[1:26:41] get kicked out and they have to go
[1:26:42] somewhere else. And so they're not being
[1:26:44] protected by having the land zoned for
[1:26:47] ranching. And that's what we need to do
[1:26:49] is protect them. Um, and I also heard
[1:26:53] that some of them are taking their money
[1:26:55] and they're going to go to Idaho. Now, I
[1:26:57] don't know if the land in Idaho is zoned
[1:26:59] for ranching or not, but they're like,
[1:27:00] "We're going to go somewhere where
[1:27:02] they're not building." I That's just
[1:27:03] what I heard. Okay. Um, from a rancher,
[1:27:07] [clears throat]
[1:27:08] I think it is good that ranchers would
[1:27:10] be able to sell their land
[1:27:13] to other ranchers.
[1:27:15] There are people out there that can't
[1:27:16] afford to buy more land for their ranch.
[1:27:19] They're on small spread and they want to
[1:27:21] expand and they can't now because of the
[1:27:23] data center driving the price out of
[1:27:25] their out of their reach. So, I wanted
[1:27:28] to talk about something else. Um, I've
[1:27:30] heard y'all are getting death threats. I
[1:27:33] assume that's true from the police
[1:27:35] presence that we have here. Um the thing
[1:27:39] is I don't think there would be a person
[1:27:40] in this room that would threaten y'all.
[1:27:43] I think the violence that's in that
[1:27:45] we've been experiencing in this country
[1:27:48] over the last decade has come from one
[1:27:50] group of people and that's MAGA people.
[1:27:53] And I think I think this is a false flag
[1:27:57] thing that if you're getting death
[1:27:59] threats um and they're blaming us MAGA.
[1:28:03] >> They're maybe not not MAGA.
[1:28:05] >> We're not we're not threatening.
[1:28:08] >> Maybe somebody else then. But somebody
[1:28:10] is trying to make us look bad and I
[1:28:13] don't know who because I don't know
[1:28:14] who's calling.
[1:28:15] >> Chinese operatives, right? [laughter]
[1:28:18] >> You getting your check yet?
[1:28:20] >> So, Miss Mr. Bingham, have you seen the
[1:28:24] memes on the internet about your angry
[1:28:27] outburst in Tmont? They are really fun
[1:28:30] to watch and we've all had them. We've
[1:28:33] all had angry outbursts. But I think
[1:28:36] what you really wanted was not for us to
[1:28:39] grow up, but for us to revert and become
[1:28:42] children that are seen and not heard.
[1:28:45] And I think that's um what you wanted
[1:28:48] rather than. And so this is great. The
[1:28:50] >> time's up.
[1:28:51] >> Okay. This is great that you're
[1:28:52] listening now.
[1:28:54] >> Thank you.
[1:28:55] Julie.
[1:28:58] » [applause]
[1:29:02] » All right. Well, that concludes our
[1:29:04] public comment period.
[1:29:06] Um, I believe we've got the warrant
[1:29:08] register already done.
[1:29:11] Um, personnel actions.
[1:29:14] >> Okay. Do we have a close session? Okay.
[1:29:18] Nothing else. I'll would accept a motion
[1:29:21] to
[1:29:38] personal action. That's taken care of,
[1:29:41] right?
[1:29:42] >> Yeah.
[1:29:42] >> Okay. I would make a motion to adjurnn.
[1:29:45] >> I'll second it.
[1:29:46] >> You have a motion by Commissioner Perry
[1:29:47] and a second by Commissioner Bingham.
[1:29:49] There's no further discussion. All in
[1:29:51] favor say I.
[1:29:52] >> I.
[1:29:52] We are adjourned. Thank