1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,839 tonight. We appreciate you being here in 2 00:00:01,839 --> 00:00:05,040 attendance. Um we will start off by 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,640 having our invocation given by 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,110 Commissioner Perry. 5 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:12,639 » Our dear Holy Father, we come before 6 00:00:12,639 --> 00:00:14,400 this time grateful for the blessings of 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,679 bestowed upon us. We're grateful for the 8 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:17,840 moisture we received in this past week 9 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,439 and we're grateful for the opportunity 10 00:00:19,439 --> 00:00:20,960 we had to hold our county fair and have 11 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,480 successful fair and a safe time that 12 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,640 people could enjoy themselves. And at 13 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,000 this time, Father, we ask thy spirit to 14 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,359 guide and direct us as we conduct 15 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:31,679 business here at Boxler County. That we 16 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:33,680 can do so in a manner of pleasing in thy 17 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,920 eyesight. We pray that thou will bless 18 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,920 and watch over those who are protecting 19 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,520 us and serving serving us in our 20 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,840 community, especially those who are 21 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,800 fighting fires and protecting us in 22 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,559 overseas. And we pray that they'll 23 00:00:46,559 --> 00:00:48,160 please bless and watch over the families 24 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:50,000 who lost loved ones recently. that 25 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,079 they'll know that we 26 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:53,840 are concerned for them and want them to 27 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,760 know that we love them and appreciate 28 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,440 their their family members and the 29 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,280 contribution they've provided to Boxar 30 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,280 County. We pray that th that will guide 31 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,479 and direct us in all that we should do 32 00:01:04,479 --> 00:01:05,920 and say and we say this name Jesus 33 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,720 Christ do it. 34 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,439 >> Amen. 35 00:01:07,439 --> 00:01:09,040 >> And we'll have our pledge of allegiance 36 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,840 by uh Treasurer Sean Thornley. Please 37 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:12,720 stand for the pledge of 38 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,750 >> allegiance 39 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,560 to the flag of the United States of 40 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,759 America. 41 00:01:19,759 --> 00:01:25,439 and to the for it stands one nation 42 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:28,425 indivisible with liberty and justice for 43 00:01:28,425 --> 00:01:30,640 [snorts] all. 44 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,360 >> Thank you, Commissioner Perry and Sean. 45 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,000 Thank you so much. Um I need a motion to 46 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,320 approve the minutes from the July 22nd 47 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:42,079 26 meeting as well as the August 12th, 48 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:44,960 2026 meeting. I would make a motion that 49 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:46,799 we approve the minutes from July 22nd, 50 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:49,520 2026 and August 12th of 2026. 51 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,320 >> Second. 52 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,640 >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry 53 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,640 and a second by Commissioner Bingham to 54 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,799 approve the minutes from the July 55 00:01:56,799 --> 00:01:58,479 2022nd, 56 00:01:58,479 --> 00:02:02,079 2026 meeting and the August 12th, 2026 57 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:04,159 meeting. All in favor say I. 58 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:06,560 >> I. 59 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,800 >> Okay. Administrative review reports and 60 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,319 future agenda items. Do uh any of our 61 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:14,879 departments do we have anything? 62 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:15,680 >> Commissioner Perry, 63 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,560 >> not right now. No. 64 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,520 >> Commissioner Bingham? 65 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,319 >> No, 66 00:02:18,319 --> 00:02:20,800 >> I don't have anything as well. 67 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,640 >> Marla, do you have anything? 68 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:25,200 >> Okay, very good. Uh, under former agenda 69 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,520 items, Commissioner Bingham has uh uh 70 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,560 some things he would like to bring 71 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:29,440 forward. 72 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,360 >> Um, yes. The planning commission has 73 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,400 been discussing zoning in the county and 74 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,760 they have set up um a couple of town 75 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,160 hall meetings for the citizens of the 76 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,720 county to be involved in a discussion. 77 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,840 The dates for that are September 15th at 78 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,680 the Utah State University building here 79 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,280 in Brigham City at 700 p.m. and also 80 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,239 September 26th at the fairgrounds at 81 00:02:54,239 --> 00:02:56,720 1000 a.m. for those that would like to 82 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,816 participate. 83 00:02:58,816 --> 00:03:01,030 [clears throat] 84 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,400 That is 10 a.m. Correct. 85 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,680 >> 10 a.m. 86 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,159 >> Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Bingham. 87 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:10,239 We appreciate that. Uh, is Mark here? I 88 00:03:10,239 --> 00:03:11,840 don't see Mark. Emergency management 89 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,990 issues. Uh, ARPA or LTCF. 90 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,680 Charlene, 91 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,080 I don't there. 92 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,239 Okay. Um 93 00:03:24,239 --> 00:03:28,640 Annie, would you like to discuss 94 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:29,680 um the 95 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:30,799 >> number 16? 96 00:03:30,799 --> 00:03:34,080 the uh HR administrative 97 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,480 services director assignment agreement 98 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,710 26-50. 99 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,799 » Okay, we'll have Jennica do it. 100 00:03:44,799 --> 00:03:45,360 >> All right, 101 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,959 >> we've gone to number 16. 102 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:48,000 >> Yeah, 103 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,560 >> sorry. 104 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,120 >> I'll just go ahead real quick. 105 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,040 Okay. So, before you you have an 106 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,840 agreement for an administrative services 107 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,080 director assignment. It's agreement 108 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,480 26-50. 109 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,799 That specific agreement 110 00:04:02,799 --> 00:04:06,239 um would allow to have the commission 111 00:04:06,239 --> 00:04:08,640 appoint Annie Hansen as the 112 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,439 administrative services director for a 113 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:13,439 temporary period not exceeding 18 114 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:14,879 months. 115 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:18,000 Um that specific department would house 116 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,280 GIS risk management and the PIO and 117 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:23,840 communications for the county. So do you 118 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:25,360 have any questions on the agreement that 119 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,759 you have? 120 00:04:27,759 --> 00:04:29,440 >> Commissioner, do you have anything? 121 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,720 >> I would appreciate a motion. 122 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,320 >> Uh I would make a motion that we approve 123 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,000 um administrative services director 124 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,960 assignment agreement number 26-50. 125 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,040 >> I'll second it. We have a motion by 126 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,440 Commissioner Bingham to approve number 127 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,600 2650, 128 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,759 uh, administrative services director 129 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:51,919 assignment and a second by Commissioner 130 00:04:51,919 --> 00:04:54,400 Perry. All in favor say I. 131 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,430 >> I. Motion passes. Thank you. 132 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:04,230 Okay. 133 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,800 under public interest peach day's 134 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,560 presentation 135 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,639 and Monica Holdway is going to come and 136 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:15,029 visit with us for a few minutes. 137 00:05:15,039 --> 00:05:17,120 » Hi Monica, 138 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,199 good morning, good afternoon, evening, 139 00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:21,360 >> whatever it is. 140 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,320 >> The time goes. 141 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,390 >> We're having fun here. Thank you. 142 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,360 for you. 143 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,600 >> So, this is just my annual Hey, it's 144 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,639 next week. 145 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:34,160 >> We know that, right? [laughter] 146 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,560 >> The fair and then peach. Fair and then 147 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,479 peach days. Yep. So, we're really 148 00:05:38,479 --> 00:05:42,560 excited. Um everything is pretty well 149 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,960 the same as in other years. So, the only 150 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,680 thing on the county lawn um is going to 151 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,320 be the fruit display, of course, and 152 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,960 then the hospital's first aid booth. Um, 153 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,800 we are not putting bleachers up on the 154 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,360 lawn this year. Um, so there won't be 155 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,199 bleachers there. So, um, the mayor and I 156 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:03,919 So, um, we were on Good Things Utah this 157 00:06:03,919 --> 00:06:06,080 morning. Um, we were on channel 2 last 158 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,840 week. Um, we will be on Fox 13 on 159 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:11,840 Thursday and then they'll be in town on 160 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:12,880 Friday morning. 161 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,160 >> We're so grateful you're in the news. 162 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,000 >> I'll call you if they need, you know, 163 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,720 comments. No. Um, we're really excited. 164 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,720 Um, like I said, our main entertainment 165 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,120 is Maddie Wilson. She'll be performing 166 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,240 Saturday night. Um, but yeah, everything 167 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,240 else I've already given the employees, 168 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,039 the Park County employee parking passes. 169 00:06:33,039 --> 00:06:34,800 Um, and like I said, everything else 170 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,720 will be the same. So, as long as the 171 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,240 sprinklers don't go off on the county 172 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,479 lawn, that would be awesome. [laughter] 173 00:06:40,479 --> 00:06:42,560 >> We'll we'll see if we can't get that. We 174 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,680 don't have that problem. 175 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,440 >> Yep. 176 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,280 >> We will send it out to Cody. So, unless 177 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:48,800 you have any questions for me, we just 178 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,639 really appreciate the support of the 179 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:52,880 county staff and you as the 180 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,080 commissioners. So, 181 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,360 >> it's going to be a fun time, isn't it? 182 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,880 >> It is. Yeah. 183 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:57,600 >> Busy busy. 184 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,240 >> Peaches. 185 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:58,639 >> Huh. 186 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:00,240 >> Even without even without peaches. 187 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,919 >> Well, there will be still be peaches 188 00:07:01,919 --> 00:07:03,919 available. They just lobby from here. 189 00:07:03,919 --> 00:07:05,520 >> Yeah. That today on the news they 190 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,039 brought that up a little bit and we just 191 00:07:07,039 --> 00:07:08,880 said and our peach queen handled it 192 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,199 really great. She said, you know, peach, 193 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:13,120 we can have peach days without peaches 194 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,199 because it's all about community and 195 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:17,199 celebrating the harvest and maybe 196 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:18,880 celebrating the harvest of not peaches 197 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,720 this year, but other harvests and 198 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,400 celebrating the community. So, she 199 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,840 answered it really well and 200 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,440 >> good. Well, that's really what it's all 201 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:26,800 about, right? The fair and then peach 202 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,919 days. It's all about bringing 203 00:07:27,919 --> 00:07:29,039 communities together and 204 00:07:29,039 --> 00:07:30,800 >> Yep. celebrating relationships, 205 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,800 celebrating our area. So, 206 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,479 >> celebrating our heritage. So, 207 00:07:34,479 --> 00:07:36,720 >> yeah. Okay. Any questions? 208 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:37,039 >> Nope. 209 00:07:37,039 --> 00:07:38,800 >> I think we're good. Thank you so much. 210 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:43,350 appreciate it. We look forward to it. 211 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,960 » Okay. Um number eight, uh proposed 212 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,759 agricultural protection area and we need 213 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:52,000 to do a public hearing and Mara's going 214 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,199 to talk to us a little bit about that 215 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:54,160 one. 216 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,800 >> This particular a protection area is in 217 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:02,160 the Lwood area. Um all of the proper um 218 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,360 publications notices have been sent and 219 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,000 mailed and put in the paper and have 220 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 been sent to the A board and the 221 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,840 planning commission for review. The 222 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:17,430 total acres in this one is 1,384.76 223 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:22,560 acres and um all the parcels that were 224 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,720 needing to be reszoned went through that 225 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,360 at the same time as the act protection 226 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,199 was in process. So, 227 00:08:29,199 --> 00:08:31,919 >> okay. Very good. Thank you. 228 00:08:31,919 --> 00:08:33,440 Commissioners, I need a motion to open a 229 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,880 public hearing. 230 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,479 >> I would make a motion we open a public 231 00:08:36,479 --> 00:08:37,760 hearing. 232 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,640 >> Second. 233 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,320 >> We have an a motion to open a public 234 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,479 hearing by Commissioner uh Perry and a 235 00:08:42,479 --> 00:08:44,000 second by Commissioner Bingham. All in 236 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:44,720 favor? 237 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,600 >> I. 238 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,240 >> Public hearing is open. Please keep your 239 00:08:48,240 --> 00:09:00,630 comments to this agenda item only. 240 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Diana Hardy Bigham. The Boxella 241 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,800 Committee of Liberty again opposes 242 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,720 agricultural protection areas because 243 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,880 they are unconstitutional. 244 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,480 Where in the constitution does it give 245 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,080 the government authority to form 246 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,399 agricultural protection areas? Also, 247 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:16,560 when the government requires a fee from 248 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:17,839 the property owner to be in the 249 00:09:17,839 --> 00:09:20,080 agricultural protection area, this is 250 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,680 extortion. Paying for protection. It 251 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:25,600 would be interesting to conduct a survey 252 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,120 with all the property owners as well as 253 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,880 the citizens to see how many have read 254 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,120 the Utah Constitution. It probably 255 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,440 wouldn't be many. They do not have the 256 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,800 knowledge that they already are 257 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,640 protected according to Article 1, 258 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,880 Section 1, which states, "All men have 259 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,880 the inherent and enable right to enjoy 260 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,880 and defend their lives and liberties to 261 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,680 acquire, possess, and protect property." 262 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:48,080 Article 1 section two all political 263 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,480 powers inherit in the people and all 264 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,160 free governments are founded on their 265 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,839 authority for equal protection and 266 00:09:53,839 --> 00:09:55,839 benefit and they have the right to all 267 00:09:55,839 --> 00:09:57,360 to reform their government as a public 268 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,080 welfare may require. US Constitution 269 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,240 Amendment 9 states the enumeration in 270 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,399 the constitution of certain rights shall 271 00:10:04,399 --> 00:10:07,200 not be construed nor deny or disparage 272 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,080 others retained by the people. God gave 273 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,080 us our land and liberty and government's 274 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,079 duty and responsibility is to preserve 275 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:16,160 and protect those rights. Our 276 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,760 representatives take an oath of office 277 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,600 to support, obey, and defend both the US 278 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,079 and state constitutions. Are each of you 279 00:10:22,079 --> 00:10:24,480 keeping your oath of office? Thomas 280 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,279 Jefferson stated, "Bind government down 281 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:29,519 from mischief by the chains of the 282 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:31,920 Constitution. Both the US and state 283 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,839 constitution should be followed, not 284 00:10:33,839 --> 00:10:36,160 ignored and subverted." When the Utah 285 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,320 legislature is passing arbitrary laws 286 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,640 that violate the constitutions and their 287 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,880 oath of office, the cities and counties 288 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,800 are to be the checks and balances to 289 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,200 notify the Utah state legislature that 290 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,519 they have usurp power and the cities and 291 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:52,000 counties will not comply. Thomas 292 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,240 Jefferson stated, "Anything contrary to 293 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,240 the constitution 294 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,880 are null and void and of no force. The 295 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,040 agriculture protection areas are null 296 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,279 and void and of no force because they 297 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:05,839 are contrary to both constitutions. A 298 00:11:05,839 --> 00:11:07,519 well-informed people can always defend 299 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:09,680 their property and liberty. A people who 300 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:12,160 are not wellinformed sink to desperatism 301 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,680 and slavery. John Adams stated property 302 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:18,800 must be secured or liberty cannot exist. 303 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,240 Thank you. 304 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:28,790 >> Thank you. 305 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,560 Is there anyone else would like to make 306 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:33,600 comment? Okay, I make I would like a 307 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,640 motion to close public hearing, please. 308 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,160 >> I'll make a motion that we close the 309 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,600 public hearing for the agriculture 310 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,480 protection area. 311 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,160 >> I'll second it. 312 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,279 >> We have a motion to close the public 313 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:44,800 hearing by Commissioner Perry and a 314 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,320 second by Commissioner Bingham. All in 315 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,519 favor say I. 316 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:52,550 >> I. Public hearing is now closed. 317 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:54,320 Resolution 318 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,000 number 2626, approving the proposal to 319 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,120 create an agricultural protection area. 320 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,120 Um, I'd like to make a motion to approve 321 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,200 resolution number resolution number 322 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,920 2626, approving a proposal to create an 323 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,160 agricultural protection area. 324 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,120 >> I'll second it. 325 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,120 >> We have a motion by Commissioner Bingham 326 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,560 to approve resolution number 26-26, 327 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:18,880 approving a proposal to create an 328 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,399 agricultural 329 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:22,000 protection area. A second by 330 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,800 Commissioner Perry. All in favor say I. 331 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:25,200 >> I. 332 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,560 >> Motion passes. Thank you. 333 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:31,120 >> Okay. Uh, predator control contract 334 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,639 2647. 335 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:39,750 Chrissy. 336 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,079 This is a contract that we enter to 337 00:12:42,079 --> 00:12:44,480 enter into with the state every single 338 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,519 year. I think it's pretty standard. Um, 339 00:12:47,519 --> 00:12:50,720 Glenn has I think has gone through it. 340 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,480 So, I think it's good to go. It's with 341 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,279 the wool growers for the state. 342 00:12:55,279 --> 00:12:57,040 >> Yep. 343 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,920 >> I've read it. 344 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:00,880 >> I need a motion. 345 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,560 >> I'd make a motion that we approve the 346 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:07,120 contract um 26-47 for predator control. 347 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,480 >> Second. 348 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,240 >> Have a motion by Commissioner Perry to 349 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,639 approve predator control contract number 350 00:13:12,639 --> 00:13:14,560 26-47. 351 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:17,440 A second by Commissioner Bingham. All in 352 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,959 favor say I. I. Motion passes. Thanks, 353 00:13:20,959 --> 00:13:23,440 Chrissy. 354 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,079 Ambulance and fire needs of Boxelder 355 00:13:26,079 --> 00:13:28,639 County in Willard City. Je Jeremy 356 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:30,720 Kippton will come and visit with us a 357 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,870 little bit about that. 358 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:35,920 » How are you guys doing? 359 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,959 >> Doing well. How are you guys 360 00:13:36,959 --> 00:13:39,120 >> doing? Good. Good to see you, man. 361 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:39,920 >> Wow. Well, thanks. 362 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:40,880 >> Hey, man. 363 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,160 >> Thanks for letting us have just a few 364 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,160 minutes of your time. The mayor uh asked 365 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,920 me to get us on the agenda and he let me 366 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,279 know about an hour ago he wasn't going 367 00:13:47,279 --> 00:13:48,800 to be here in time. [laughter] So, 368 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:49,360 you're stuck with 369 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,639 >> I kind of give you the assignment. 370 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:52,079 >> Yeah, exactly. 371 00:13:52,079 --> 00:13:53,200 >> Isn't that great? 372 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,240 >> So, you're stuck with Van and I. Um, but 373 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,839 I think, you know, I think our message 374 00:13:57,839 --> 00:13:58,800 and I'm happy to 375 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,839 >> yourself just so that 376 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:02,079 >> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm I'm Jeremy Kempton. 377 00:14:02,079 --> 00:14:04,480 I'm the city manager for Willard. Van's 378 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:05,360 our fire chief. 379 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,600 >> I'm Van Mund and I'm fire chief. 380 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,040 >> Thanks. 381 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,240 So, um, like I said, um, our hope maybe 382 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,760 tonight is maybe to get a little 383 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,199 direction from you guys and a little bit 384 00:14:15,199 --> 00:14:16,800 of an idea what you need from us and 385 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,720 what your hopes are if if there are any 386 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,040 desire to have some relationships moving 387 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,199 forward between um, Willard City and Box 388 00:14:25,199 --> 00:14:27,360 Elder, specifically South Willard. Um, I 389 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,199 know we've had some discussions 390 00:14:29,199 --> 00:14:29,600 >> Sure. 391 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,880 >> over the past year and um, I think we're 392 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,880 at a point now we've we've purchased a 393 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,440 couple of ambulances and we're ready to 394 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,120 >> head down that path and I think we're 395 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,199 just trying to decide what what you guys 396 00:14:41,199 --> 00:14:42,800 envision that relationship to look like 397 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,120 for and not maybe just ambulance and 398 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,839 fire but police as well. But 399 00:14:47,839 --> 00:14:48,720 >> um, 400 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,079 >> well I guess what our next steps would 401 00:14:50,079 --> 00:14:50,880 be. Van 402 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,040 >> I mean we are headed down that road for 403 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,639 world city. I mean, we're we're not 404 00:14:56,639 --> 00:14:59,680 going to go to do anything else. We are 405 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,680 going to provide our own ambulance 406 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,560 service and everything for our city. And 407 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,279 our contract, our fire contract with 408 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:09,760 Oxel County, I believe, expired in June 409 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,680 or July. So, 410 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,160 >> um I guess we're like Jeremy said, we're 411 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,160 here to discuss or see where you wanted 412 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,399 us to head down what we needed to do to 413 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:24,639 see where we're going with that and and 414 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:26,800 providing ambulance service to South 415 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,240 Willard. 416 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,040 >> Okay. 417 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,560 >> I'm comfortable. I I think that's where 418 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,040 we'd want to go. I think you having an 419 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,480 ambulance that much closer to our 420 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,920 citizens that are in South Willard makes 421 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,839 sense. you're already providing a great 422 00:15:37,839 --> 00:15:39,360 service and have been providing us a 423 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,519 great service when it comes to fire um 424 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:43,680 with with this fairly as rapid response 425 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,120 as anybody could expect right now in 426 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,199 South Willard with where we're at. So, 427 00:15:47,199 --> 00:15:48,959 we would probably want to continue to 428 00:15:48,959 --> 00:15:50,720 have, you know, negotiations and make 429 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,240 sure that we're getting working with 430 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,240 Willard to continue to provide service 431 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,399 to those folks in South Willard until 432 00:15:56,399 --> 00:15:58,560 the day comes if they choose to be part 433 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,320 of Willard at some point. But until 434 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,639 then, yeah, we I think as a county, as a 435 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:05,759 county, we that you're the best option 436 00:16:05,759 --> 00:16:06,959 to provide that public. 437 00:16:06,959 --> 00:16:08,800 >> You guys are doing Yeah. And you guys 438 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,240 are doing a phenomenal job. 439 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,519 >> On the law enforcement side, we 440 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:13,279 obviously have to deal with uh our 441 00:16:13,279 --> 00:16:14,800 sheriffs, the sheriff's department would 442 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,079 be the issue with the law enforcement 443 00:16:16,079 --> 00:16:17,600 part, but I think from fire and EMS 444 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,680 side, we would we would definitely 445 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,040 support you guys moving forward with 446 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:21,680 that. 447 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,480 >> So, what do we need to do is our next 448 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,800 step? Do we need to draft up? 449 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,800 >> Well, you pro probably need to draft up 450 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:29,279 an 451 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:31,519 >> agreement, but also um 452 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:33,519 >> if you haven't started down the process, 453 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:35,199 you need to get a license to the state 454 00:16:35,199 --> 00:16:36,079 for your EMS. 455 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:39,120 >> We cannot that until February. 456 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:39,759 >> Okay, 457 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:42,000 >> that's what the state said because not 458 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,320 no more than six months before we're to 459 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,279 take over. 460 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:48,000 >> Okay. Our area. So, that's when that 461 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,759 process will be started and 462 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:54,560 ultimately we haven't uh shouldn't have 463 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,360 issues there. 464 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,880 >> We we've been working with the state 465 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,399 pretty close to make sure we're ready to 466 00:16:58,399 --> 00:17:00,079 go. So once that deadline gets here, 467 00:17:00,079 --> 00:17:01,680 we're ready to pull the trigger and get 468 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:02,079 going. 469 00:17:02,079 --> 00:17:03,120 >> Yeah. We just want to make sure you're 470 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,559 prepared that when that does happen that 471 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:05,600 you guys are ready to go. 472 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,120 >> I know Cody and Kevin want to work with 473 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:08,640 you. So if you want to reach out to them 474 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,839 as well, they may be able to do 475 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:11,439 something to work with you because we we 476 00:17:11,439 --> 00:17:12,720 do have a contract in the county to 477 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,079 provide ammo service. 478 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:14,559 >> Right. Okay. 479 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:15,760 >> We could probably provide for South 480 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,679 Alert right now if we needed to. So 481 00:17:17,679 --> 00:17:18,000 >> Okay. 482 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,559 >> And I actually chief, I think that's 483 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:22,000 something we ought to be looking at. 484 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,120 >> And what's that? I think that's 485 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:24,480 something we ought to be looking at is 486 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,000 moving forward as quickly as possible. 487 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:26,640 So, 488 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,160 >> I think we need to have a meeting and 489 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,120 visit. 490 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,280 >> Uh we've been busy with other cities, 491 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,880 but I think we need to sit down and 492 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,160 visit and find out what direction we 493 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,440 want to go on 494 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,280 >> best request with the through the 495 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,520 through Kevin to to pay you for the fire 496 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,960 services you guys have provided this 497 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,320 last year. So, I don't know if you 498 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:43,679 received that yet or not, but 499 00:17:43,679 --> 00:17:44,160 >> what's that? 500 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,120 >> I don't know if you received that 501 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:46,799 payment yet or not, but I know Kevin was 502 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:48,080 going to forward it through our 503 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,840 >> I'll find I I don't know if we have or 504 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,440 not. We may have. I can't. Usually 505 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,039 they'll ask where we want it allocated. 506 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:54,880 I I don't think I've seen it quite yet, 507 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:55,760 but 508 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,039 >> Yeah. Very good. 509 00:17:57,039 --> 00:17:58,720 >> Who would you like us to reach out to to 510 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,120 set up a meeting? 511 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:02,799 >> I think if we can get with Corey Oaks 512 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:05,280 and Kevin Lloyd and and 513 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,720 >> set a meeting, have them reach out to us 514 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,240 and set up a meeting and we can all sit 515 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:08,880 down and talk. 516 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:09,679 >> Great. 517 00:18:09,679 --> 00:18:11,280 >> So, find out what our next steps are and 518 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,559 what we do to go forward. 519 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:14,000 >> Okay. We'll do that. We'll we'll get 520 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,280 we'll reach out to them, get something 521 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,520 set up and get moving sooner than later. 522 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,520 >> Sounds awesome. Sooner the better. 523 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,799 really appreciate you guys. 524 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:21,919 >> If you can have if you want to have your 525 00:18:21,919 --> 00:18:23,200 attorney start drafting some language 526 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,400 that we can have our attorney's office 527 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,200 kind of match for what you're proposing 528 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,200 moving forward ambulance service wise 529 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,200 along with maybe the look at the fire 530 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,480 contract to update it. 531 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:32,960 >> Okay. 532 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,480 >> Maybe kind of combine the two to say 533 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,080 this is what what would be so we could 534 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,000 get a contract in place moving forward. 535 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,440 >> Okay. We'll get started on that. I think 536 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,720 she's already started working on that. 537 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,799 So, but I'll I'll nudge it along. 538 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:44,160 >> Okay. Very good. Okay. 539 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,440 >> Thank you, gentlemen. Thanks for your 540 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:51,909 time. 541 00:18:51,919 --> 00:18:54,559 Okay. Um, 542 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:57,679 number C, request of purchase of surplus 543 00:18:57,679 --> 00:19:03,510 prop uh, parcel number 08-065-000012, 544 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,000 uh, compliant parcel that was not sold 545 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,440 at tax sale in 2026. Ryan Nelson, how 546 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:09,919 are you? 547 00:19:09,919 --> 00:19:10,799 >> Good. How are you guys doing? 548 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:13,360 >> Good. 549 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:15,280 >> So, exactly that. I'm seeking the 550 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,280 commission's approval to buy that parcel 551 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,160 that was not sold in 2026 and it is 552 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,120 compliant which is very few and far 553 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:26,950 between out there. 554 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,799 » Okay, this where do you want to have 555 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:30,400 Scott come up and explain? Scott, can 556 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,080 you talk for a minute, please? 557 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,360 >> So, we're trying to figure out exactly 558 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:34,720 what what we can do and how what our 559 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,000 options are and that's why we're asking 560 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,870 Scott to come talk to us. So, 561 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,760 » how's it going, Scott? 562 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,080 >> Good. 563 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,080 you want to explain to us what what we 564 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,440 need to do as a commission on this or 565 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:48,720 what our options are? 566 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,960 >> So, [clears throat] as far as when when 567 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,240 there is county surplus property, uh the 568 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,240 county has a a disposal process that was 569 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,559 adopted um 25 years ago, amended 15 570 00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:07,440 years ago. Um anyway, it basically 571 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,600 allows the county commission to one 572 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,360 decide if they want to surplus that 573 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:15,679 particular piece of property. um that uh 574 00:20:15,679 --> 00:20:17,200 you know it may be something the county 575 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,360 wants to hold on to. They may find some 576 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:21,840 use for it, whether that be for fire or 577 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,720 sheriff or roads or who knows what. Uh 578 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,480 if it's not a piece that they want to 579 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,840 hold on to, um then it likely makes 580 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,240 sense to either get back, you know, on 581 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,600 the tax books, something like that. Uh 582 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,440 so this policy outlines how that is to 583 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,159 take place. So step one is to decide if 584 00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:44,720 it, you know, if if it makes sense to 585 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,400 surplus it or not. And then uh if if 586 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,640 decided that surplusing makes sense, 587 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,240 then the county commission needs to 588 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,799 decide how uh h how to value that 589 00:20:56,799 --> 00:21:01,280 property. Um so it sets forth five 590 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,840 different ways to do that. uh sealed 591 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,000 competitive bid, a public auction, 592 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,400 evaluation by a qualified and 593 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,360 disinterested appraiser, um the Boxler 594 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:13,360 County Assessor's Office, or other 595 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,760 professional publications or valuation 596 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,480 services. So, so those are the those are 597 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,280 the five different ways that um a value 598 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,760 could be applied to that property in 599 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,720 order to um determine this the sales 600 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,000 price for it. Once that is decided, then 601 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,039 you would direct um me to take it 602 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:34,559 through the process. We run it through 603 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:36,080 the planning commission. Planning 604 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,880 commission reviews it per this policy. 605 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,679 Couple things they look at as far as um 606 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:43,919 the general plan and things like that. 607 00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:45,760 And then their recommendation comes back 608 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,640 to you and we're supposed to go through 609 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,679 a noticing period and then um you would 610 00:21:51,679 --> 00:21:54,240 take action from there as far as the 611 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,360 final sale of the property. So step one 612 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,840 would be determining if you want to 613 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,679 surplus it and how to value it. 614 00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:04,720 >> Okay. 615 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,120 >> Commissioners, 616 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:08,080 >> is there discussion? 617 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,919 >> Is there a best way to figure out how to 618 00:22:09,919 --> 00:22:11,520 value it? I don't 619 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,559 >> how that 620 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:15,520 >> So So he may have done some research. Uh 621 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,600 I've spoken I believe it was your wife 622 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,360 that stopped by. I spoke with her for a 623 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:20,559 little bit and kind of gave her the 624 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:22,559 rundown as far as what the different 625 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:25,679 options are that you that that are have 626 00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:30,240 been used historically. Um, 627 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,320 I think the two the two main ones that 628 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,200 I've seen often times when we surplus a 629 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,960 piece of property, it's it's kind of 630 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,919 these smaller slivers or triangles, 631 00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:42,400 awkward pieces of property that that 632 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,000 nothing really can be done with them 633 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,720 except for uh, you know, usually it's an 634 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,120 adjoining neighbor that is 635 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:52,559 >> okay there's this 2,000 square foot 636 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:55,760 piece adjacent to my property and in 637 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,400 that case uh, the property may only be 638 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,559 worth a couple hundred dollars and so it 639 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,000 doesn't make sense to have an appraisal 640 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,200 done where the appraisal is going to 641 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,200 actually cost more than the property and 642 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,600 so you have used the assessor's office 643 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,240 to value that in in those scenarios. 644 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,559 There have been other scenarios where uh 645 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,200 you know an appraisal has been requested 646 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,120 and that appraisal has been the 647 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,760 responsibility of the interested party 648 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,000 uh and sometimes they go through with 649 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,320 it. Sometimes they say, uh, that's going 650 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,360 to in the end, you know, it might be 651 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:29,760 $6,000 for the parcel and, you know, 652 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,400 a,000 or two for the appraisal and that 653 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,240 the appraisal price just pushes it to 654 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,400 where it no longer makes sense for them 655 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,240 >> and they kind of abandon the, you know, 656 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,640 the quest to acquire that piece of land. 657 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,559 So, this particular case, it sounds like 658 00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:43,760 you've done a little bit of homework. 659 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,600 I'll let you. 660 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,440 >> Um, yeah. So, when it went up for tax 661 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,440 sale, it was going up for, I believe, 662 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,600 like $475 663 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,520 and nobody bid on it, so it just went to 664 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,480 Fox County. Uh, one of the options is to 665 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,480 pay the price that the county assessor's 666 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,799 office has it at. They currently have it 667 00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:04,789 assessed at $1,86. 668 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:07,200 We're willing to pay that price and it 669 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,240 fits under one of those ones. And that 670 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,279 was the evaluation in 25 which is the 671 00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:15,279 latest that I could find on public 672 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:17,600 record. Um if there's a newer valuation 673 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,440 from the assessor's office, we'd also be 674 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,640 willing to pay that price. 675 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,480 >> And currently the property is just 676 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,840 there's nothing on the property. It's 677 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,159 just 678 00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:27,520 >> there's nothing on the property. I have 679 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,600 a map of it. It's all the way out in 680 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,679 Park Valley and it's just empty right in 681 00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:36,480 the middle off the road. To give you a 682 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,919 reference, it's uh going west of 683 00:24:39,919 --> 00:24:42,240 Snowville on Highway 30 before you get 684 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,400 to the split where it would go north to 685 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,400 the Clear Creek area or south to the 686 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,960 Park Valley. So, it's just east of that 687 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,080 split. Okay. Um and it's an 8.8 acre 688 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,000 parcel that uh straddles the Highway 30 689 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,510 there. 690 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,760 » Um I don't know. Can we can we take it 691 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,440 um I would suggest that we take it under 692 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,120 adisement and maybe make a decision 693 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:10,320 between now and the next commission 694 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,480 meeting and then if we do that then we 695 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,840 would go through the abandonment process 696 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,840 and make sure that m Mr. Nelson is aware 697 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,159 of it and keep them informed and that 698 00:25:18,159 --> 00:25:23,120 way at least because in fairness until I saw it on the agenda I wasn't 699 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,400 aware that we had this piece of property 700 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,720 out there. So I need to find out what it's doing out there and what uh if 701 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,720 any reason why we want it. It's would 702 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,760 have been ideal if somebody had just 703 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,120 bought it during the tax sale and I get 704 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:34,480 that but and that's why I'm not sure 705 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,159 closed bids going to help us out a lot. 706 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:38,000 I don't know if anybody buy during tax 707 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,919 sale that it's going to go for a whole 708 00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:42,240 lot more than that anyway. So, but I 709 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,600 think we ought to explore the issue and 710 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,200 find out what this property looks like 711 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,600 and talk to a few of our the folks out 712 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,960 there to find out if there's a purpose 713 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,559 of any kind that we'd ever I I don't 714 00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:51,760 know why we'd want to keep it as a 715 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,159 county personally right now um off the 716 00:25:54,159 --> 00:25:56,080 top of my head, but I I would like to 717 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,159 have at least a couple weeks to figure 718 00:25:58,159 --> 00:25:59,840 that out and next commission meeting 719 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,919 make the decision 720 00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:04,159 what we want to do. So, 721 00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:07,520 >> yeah, I think that's a good suggestion. 722 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,039 >> So, you want a motion to that? Yes, sir. 723 00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:12,559 I would make a motion that we uh 724 00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:15,760 that we table the item till next meeting 725 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,919 to make a before we make a decision on 726 00:26:17,919 --> 00:26:19,840 it so we can find out more about the 727 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,760 property to determine if if and what we 728 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,240 need to do with it if we want to go down 729 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,480 that road of abandonment which can be 730 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,760 purchased. 731 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,799 >> Second. We have a motion by Commissioner 732 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:33,039 Perry to take the center adisement, give 733 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:37,200 us some opportunity to review and see um 734 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,799 this look at this property, make a 735 00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:41,200 decision if the county needs it or not. 736 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,909 Uh this is parcel 08-065-0012 737 00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:48,960 and a second by Commissioner Bingham. 738 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,799 Any other 739 00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:52,720 comments? All in favor? 740 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,440 >> I. 741 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,600 >> Motion passes. Thank you. We'll do some 742 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,880 review and get back with you. 743 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,870 >> Thank you. 744 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,799 Okay. Appointment to the Metro Lease 745 00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:05,360 Services District and Commissioners. 746 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:08,080 >> Uh yes. Um I it' be my motion that we 747 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,000 appoint Michael A. Allen from Brigham 748 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,440 City to uh serve on the Mineral East 749 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,880 Committee, the Mineral East board. It 750 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,279 would be a four-year assignment. 751 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:18,559 >> Is that correct, Glenn? This is a 752 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:20,480 four-year one, right? Okay. It'd be a 753 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,760 four-year assignment. And he would be 754 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,679 taking the Brigham Karen area would be 755 00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:24,880 the area of the Mineral East board. 756 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,390 That's the area he represents. 757 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,440 Is that a motion? 758 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,720 >> That was a motion. Yes. 759 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,360 >> Second. 760 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,279 >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry 761 00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:38,480 to appoint Michael A. Allen. Is that 762 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:38,880 correct? 763 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,760 >> Yes. 764 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,400 >> To uh the Mineral Lease Special Service 765 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,720 District and a second by Commissioner 766 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,799 Bingham. All in favor say I. 767 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:47,360 >> I. 768 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:52,149 >> Motion passes. Thank you. 769 00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:56,240 Okay. under community development 770 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:01,520 ordinance um number 666 home occupations 771 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,320 and can we please change that number 772 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:04,480 and 773 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,000 >> we will have Scott Lions come and talk 774 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,679 to us about that. Can we change it to 775 00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:09,919 like 667 or something like that? 776 00:28:09,919 --> 00:28:14,630 [laughter] 777 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,880 » We were the uh the unlucky ones. 778 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,559 So, this proposed ordinance is a text 779 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:27,840 amendment to section 5-1-290 780 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,799 of the uh county's land use and 781 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:33,039 development code. This section of code 782 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:37,679 regulates home occupations. Um, so the 783 00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:41,679 applicant here requested currently under 784 00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:45,120 home occupations uh there is a list of 785 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,240 prohibited uses. Um, and this particular 786 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,039 one is body piercing, body art, or 787 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:53,520 tattoo parlor. And they are requesting 788 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,760 that that be removed from the list of 789 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,480 home of from the list of prohibited 790 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:05,200 uses. Um, so in the the definitions um 791 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,720 come from state code and state code uh 792 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,279 for a variety of reasons. uh that gets 793 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,600 pretty gets pretty technical as far as 794 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,279 health department regulations and 795 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:18,559 different things like that associated 796 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,080 with this, but it includes um like 797 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,399 permanent cosmetics. So, when you get 798 00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:27,840 your eyebrows microbladed or have your 799 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,159 eyeliner tattooed, different things like 800 00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:33,039 that, that falls under this same 801 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:37,120 section, uh same land use, if you will. 802 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,559 Uh so the request is to remove that 803 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:44,080 entirely. Um it's viewed by the 804 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,320 applicant and I should say as well by 805 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,480 the planning commission as no different 806 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,120 than if somebody wants to have a chair 807 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,960 in their basement and a home salon or 808 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,080 anything like that. So uh the planning 809 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,679 commission held their public hearing. 810 00:29:57,679 --> 00:29:59,600 There was no opposition to it. There 811 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,559 were um two attendees that spoke in 812 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:05,360 favor of it and the planning commission 813 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,880 uh forwarded a recommendation of 814 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,840 approval and that recommendation um is 815 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:19,110 included in ordinance number 666. 816 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,720 » Okay. 817 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,080 Well, since we can't change the number, 818 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,760 I I will make a motion that we approve 819 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,399 ordinance 666. 820 00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:29,600 >> Second. We have a motion to approve 821 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,120 ordinance 666 by Commissioner 822 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,559 Perry and a second by Commissioner 823 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:36,880 Bingham. There's no further discussion. 824 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,399 All in favor say I. 825 00:30:38,399 --> 00:30:39,520 >> I. 826 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,240 >> Thanks. 827 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,559 >> Thank you. 828 00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:45,750 >> Okay. 829 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,919 Number 12, fairgrounds ratification of 830 00:30:47,919 --> 00:30:51,679 agreement 26-49 831 00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:53,679 road to services. And Glenn's going to 832 00:30:53,679 --> 00:30:55,039 visit with us that with that a little 833 00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:56,000 bit. 834 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,760 >> Yes. So, we had the rodeo last week. Um, 835 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,679 there's some difficulties and 836 00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:05,279 complications in getting the uh the 837 00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:07,600 rodeo had been taken over by a new rodeo 838 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,120 company. We had a little bit of problems 839 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,440 getting them to sign it. Um, we did get 840 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,279 it signed before the rodeo. Um, and we 841 00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:16,720 didn't have a county commission meeting 842 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,240 in between when we got it signed in the 843 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,039 rodeo. So, we're here to ratify that 844 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:22,000 decision. 845 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,720 >> Yep. I'd make a motion that we ratify 846 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,440 the agreement 2649 for rodeo services as 847 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,320 discussed. 848 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,279 >> Second. We 849 00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:31,600 >> have a motion by Commissioner Perry to 850 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,399 approve ratification of agreement number 851 00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:37,440 26-49 for the rodeo services as 852 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,519 presented by Glenn Thirsten. Second by 853 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:41,919 Commissioner Bingham. There's no further 854 00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:43,760 discussion. All in favor say I. 855 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,559 >> I. 856 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:48,559 >> Hey, thank you Glenn. Appreciate it. 857 00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,360 Quarter's office 858 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,559 public land survey system grant number 859 00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:57,440 2648 for the monument replacement and 860 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,360 restoration 861 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,440 uh committee. Chad Montgomery is going 862 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,399 to visit with us. 863 00:32:02,399 --> 00:32:03,919 >> Chad Montgomery, Boxelder County 864 00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:07,600 Recorder. Um this is our standard uh 865 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,799 state contract grant for the section 866 00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:13,440 corners that we have an opportunity to 867 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,200 apply for every year. we were 868 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,480 successful. Um, and the contract is for 869 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,990 $24,836.80 870 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,919 um that we can get from the the state 871 00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:29,600 for this uh to use through uh to 872 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,360 uh upgrade and uh perpetuate the the 873 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,120 section corners in the county. 874 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,760 >> Very good. Need a motion. 875 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,799 I'll make a motion that we approve or we 876 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:44,960 ratify the agreement number 26. Nope, 877 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,399 sorry. We approve FY27 public land 878 00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:51,279 survey system grant agreement 26-48 from 879 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,360 the Monument Replacement and Restoration 880 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,080 Committee. 881 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,880 >> I'll second it. We have a motion by 882 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,200 Commissioner Bingham to approve the 883 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,799 public land survey system grant 884 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:03,200 agreement number 26-48 885 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,080 for the monument replacement restoration 886 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,039 and second by Commissioner Perry. 887 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:10,480 There's no further discussion. All in 888 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,600 favor say I. 889 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,640 >> I. 890 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,760 >> Thanks Chad. Appreciate you. 891 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,120 >> Okay. Number 14, public hearing. 892 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,080 uh the winter 2026 seasonal road closure 893 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,919 public hearing and Darren's going to 894 00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:27,600 come up and visit with us for a few 895 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,799 minutes and then we'll open a public 896 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:35,590 hearing. 897 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,200 » Good evening, gentlemen. Darren 898 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,559 McFarland with Boxiller County Roads. Um 899 00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:43,519 this is our annual announcement of road 900 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:46,240 closures that the uh state government 901 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,840 asked us to start doing a few years 902 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,360 back. 903 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,720 Doesn't change anything the seasonal 904 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,679 road closures they stay the same dates 905 00:33:53,679 --> 00:33:56,000 and all. So 906 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,710 >> okay how many are we talking about? 907 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,120 » I think there are depending on weather 908 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,840 there can be seven. There's two of them, 909 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,480 three of them that weather depending we 910 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,440 don't close sometimes, 911 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,639 >> but those are out west, way out west. 912 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,639 Cotton Thomas Pass, if it doesn't snow a 913 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,879 lot, we don't close it. 914 00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:22,800 And a couple others, Lynn Pass. So 915 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,720 ones in town that I guess if you want to 916 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:27,200 call it in town are five short divide, 917 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,839 long divide, Rocky, Dougway, Willard 918 00:34:29,839 --> 00:34:35,109 Peak Road, and Derry Road. 919 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:36,960 And those are November. 920 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,879 >> They're all They're all weather pending 921 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:41,040 except for Rocky Dougway. And that's 922 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,359 July 923 00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:45,359 it's either July 15th to November 1 or 924 00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:47,760 July 1, November 15th. 925 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,520 >> And everything else is weather pending. 926 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,760 >> Everything else is weather. Yep. 927 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,800 >> Okay. 928 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,599 >> Open and closing depends depends on 929 00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:57,760 weather. 930 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,480 >> Very good. Okay. 931 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,320 >> Okay. Motion to open the public hearing. 932 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,079 I'll make a motion we open the public 933 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:09,119 hearing to discuss 2026 seasonal road 934 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:09,760 closure. 935 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,560 >> I'll second it. 936 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,839 >> We have a motion to open the public 937 00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:14,400 hearing for the 2026 seasonal road 938 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,200 closure by Commissioner Bingham and a 939 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,800 second by Commissioner Perry. All in 940 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,160 favor? 941 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,760 >> Public hearing is now open. Please keep 942 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,400 your comments to this 943 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,400 uh 944 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:45,750 issue only. We'll go from there. 945 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,359 Vernon Warner. Um, I'm a proper property 946 00:35:49,359 --> 00:35:52,000 owner up in the Devil Gate Valley. um 947 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,599 recipient of um property that was 948 00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,119 inherited 949 00:35:57,119 --> 00:35:59,440 um that I received from my 950 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,560 great-grandfather, grandfather, and it's 951 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,880 just been in the family for years and years. Um the family had over 952 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,880 six square miles of land up there in the 953 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,720 Devil's Gate Valley. We were the ones 954 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,520 that put the roads in originally for 955 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,560 sheep and cattle grazing. So, um it's 956 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,800 been a problem ever since. We used to 957 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,400 have an old cable up there with the 958 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,720 white rocks that said no trespassing, 959 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,280 but then it was declared a public road 960 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,000 sometime I don't know in the early 961 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,200 2000s. Um there [clears throat] was a 962 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,119 originally a gate and a cable up there 963 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,240 established. Uh there was a new one put 964 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:41,440 up there in the year 2007 to close the 965 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,119 Devil Gate from [clears throat] the 966 00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:46,320 public because they were doing such so 967 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,240 much property damage running all over 968 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,359 the place going through the meadows. Uh 969 00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:54,320 so [clears throat] it is our intent that 970 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,480 this is a road closure. There should be 971 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,320 a road closure. Otherwise, it's 972 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,320 restricted access by the 52-inch 973 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,480 vehicles, and that's not [clears throat] 974 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,720 not fair to us as property owners that 975 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:08,079 don't have a 52-in vehicle to go through 976 00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:09,839 there. But we should have access to our 977 00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:11,440 road to kind of see what's damaged. So, 978 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,280 if you're closing the road, then call it 979 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,839 a closure, not a limited access. Close 980 00:37:15,839 --> 00:37:20,720 it completely. So, it's my testimony and 981 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,280 my my request that we look at that 982 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,920 seriously that uh one, you're 983 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,680 restricting me as a land owner to be 984 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,960 able to go up there and check on my 985 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,160 property after the 15th of November. 986 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,320 That's generally speaking when they 987 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,640 close it. Uh but it's not a road 988 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,720 closure. It's a restricted access. So, 989 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:41,520 anybody with a a small vehicle can go up 990 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,200 there and do whatever they want. and we 991 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,720 the land owners don't have keys and 992 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,720 can't go up there and check on things, 993 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,160 make sure that our property is not being 994 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,720 destroyed. Uh and then it's open back in 995 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,800 the spring, [clears throat] 996 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,240 but we don't have a chance to go up 997 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:57,920 there and really notify the uh county 998 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,920 roads that, hey, the road's still not 999 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,760 accessible. really better hold off and 1000 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,720 keep it from, you know, the church has 1001 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:06,160 gone up there and done a lot of work 1002 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,079 this year and I'm sure they don't want 1003 00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:10,320 that road destroyed at their expense 1004 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,040 that they did uh to make it so it's 1005 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,400 easier to get in the church camp. So, um 1006 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,000 there's a couple of things. If if you're 1007 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,880 going to allow the uh restricted access 1008 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,880 instead of a road closure, then I think 1009 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,079 that that you as a commissioner uh 1010 00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:27,680 should agree that the property owners 1011 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,400 that have property up there be able to 1012 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,480 be given a key that we don't have to go 1013 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,800 and fight for a key. We can have the 1014 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,560 access to a key so that we can go and 1015 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,560 make sure that people aren't destroying 1016 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,560 that are going in there on a restricted 1017 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,359 access. So, that's one of the requests 1018 00:38:43,359 --> 00:38:45,760 that we as land owners up there have 1019 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,551 agreed that we're asking for. 1020 00:38:48,551 --> 00:38:49,359 [clears throat] 1021 00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:53,359 Uh, and then, uh, the the gate there at 1022 00:38:53,359 --> 00:38:55,760 Devil's Gate. Originally, there was a 1023 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,359 sign there that says it was a road 1024 00:38:57,359 --> 00:39:00,720 closure, uh, but that was taken down. 1025 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:03,119 Uh, and so we'd like this to be 1026 00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:06,320 considered that we either go with what 1027 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,440 was established for years up there, go 1028 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,800 back to that or the land owners have 1029 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,960 keys so we can go in and check on our 1030 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,560 properties, make sure that people aren't 1031 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,760 vandalizing, tearing things up. So, uh, 1032 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,280 that's one of the things that I request 1033 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,839 in this public hearing and, uh, let it 1034 00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:25,280 be known. Thank you. Okay. 1035 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:40,069 >> Thank you so much. Appreciate it. 1036 00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:41,520 Todd Thompson, Manowway Valley 1037 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,240 Recreation Camps. I was going to ask the 1038 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:45,920 commission for clarification on the 1039 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,880 closure at the Manowway Road. Is that a 1040 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,720 seasonal closure or is that closure 1041 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:53,599 subject to discretion of the road 1042 00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:56,240 department? 1043 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:56,400 It 1044 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,720 >> says seasonal on the agenda. 1045 00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:00,079 >> Well, I understood it that we were just 1046 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:01,359 talking about it would be seasonal based 1047 00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:02,960 on the weather. Is that So, Steve, I was 1048 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,920 going to ask you a couple questions. 1049 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:04,160 Correct me 1050 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,000 >> if I'm wrong. Um, it's a seasonal 1051 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,320 closure, but depending on the season, 1052 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,160 the uh roads department decides when 1053 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,200 that's going to be closed. Is that 1054 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,839 right? 1055 00:40:13,839 --> 00:40:15,440 >> Because we may not have snow one year, 1056 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:15,920 we may have. 1057 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,520 >> So, it could be it could it could stay 1058 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,440 open if we didn't get any snow. though 1059 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,560 and it' be a seasonal based on 1060 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,000 precipitation and what it's going to do 1061 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,480 to the road and create what what I think 1062 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,680 it's going to create for the roads 1063 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,800 department to maintain 1064 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,200 >> the ability to to 1065 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,400 safely pass passage is is your 1066 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,839 >> that that's my understanding. Yes, 1067 00:40:35,839 --> 00:40:37,200 >> correct. 1068 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,320 I'd also like to um maybe suggest the 1069 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,079 commission would entertain the idea of 1070 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,320 an intermediate gate placed between the 1071 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,440 Manowway current Manowway gate now and 1072 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,280 the Willard Basin area. I understand and 1073 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,119 fully understand that you're protecting 1074 00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:56,640 that road until the moisture or snow 1075 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,240 pack melts and the road is safely 1076 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,800 passable. However, the upper three miles 1077 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,440 of that road takes much much longer to 1078 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,440 melt off, become passable than the lower 1079 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,119 three miles. 1080 00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:08,480 So, I'm asking the commission to 1081 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,920 entertain the idea of putting an 1082 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,680 intermediate gate at the White Rock 1083 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,040 Willard Peak Road Split where landowners 1084 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,119 could once it becomes passable in the 1085 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:19,760 lower three miles access their property 1086 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,880 safely start winter renovations, 1087 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,280 closures, and spring openings earlier 1088 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,000 than allowing and waiting for the upper 1089 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,880 portion of that road to be melted off. 1090 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,119 It's a very distinct time difference 1091 00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:34,880 there for accessibility to the private 1092 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,319 properties. 1093 00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:37,920 So, I'm asking the commission if they 1094 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,760 would entertain that idea and accept 1095 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,119 that as a possibility to place that 1096 00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:45,920 intermediate gate at that strategic 1097 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,319 place. 1098 00:41:46,319 --> 00:41:47,359 >> And you're saying put the intermediate 1099 00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:50,240 gate rather than going down into Devil's 1100 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:52,240 uh Devil's Gate area would be going 1101 00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:53,839 continuing up into Willard Peak. 1102 00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:54,319 Correct. 1103 00:41:54,319 --> 00:41:56,079 >> I'm proposing that the gate be put on 1104 00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:58,319 the Willard Peak Road to inhibit passage 1105 00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:00,000 to the upper portion of the Willard Peak 1106 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,720 Road, but yet allow passage to the the 1107 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:05,920 Devil's Gate land owners. Yeah. 1108 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,599 If you travel that road and you look at 1109 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:11,440 it, it it's an it's an logical spot in 1110 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,359 that it's landlocked on each side. It 1111 00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:16,560 would the the terrain creates a natural 1112 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,440 barrier for passage around the gate. So, 1113 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,839 I think it would be easily monitored and 1114 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:24,240 I think it would be able to be uh 1115 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:26,319 enforced the closure rather than having 1116 00:42:26,319 --> 00:42:30,000 vehicles go around. It's really a 1117 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,920 natural spot for the for the train to 1118 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,079 put the gate there, allowing then once 1119 00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,800 again restricting that upper passage for 1120 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,720 safety purposes, which I understand, but 1121 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:40,880 yet allowing private owners to access 1122 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,400 the lower portions that are melded off 1123 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,160 and safely passable. 1124 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,400 >> Okay. So, when you say there is a 1125 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,160 natural place to put it, I haven't seen 1126 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,839 a place anywhere where somebody can't go 1127 00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:52,480 over with a motorbike or side by side. 1128 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,680 Everywhere I go anyway, people just said 1129 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,280 a white rock, didn't you, Todd? That's 1130 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:57,760 correct. 1131 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,160 >> Yeah. 1132 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,680 There is there's there's I mean if 1133 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,200 you up there where he's talking about if 1134 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,040 we go just past where the white rock is 1135 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,880 and you put a gate and I don't know what 1136 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,280 we'd have I that's Darren but 1137 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,760 >> depending what Forest Service where our roadway can do this is but if you 1138 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,440 put one there they have two choices. One 1139 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,720 they can go off the cliff and down the 1140 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:15,520 side of the mountain. 1141 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,240 >> Yeah. Straight down. 1142 00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:17,920 >> They have to go up into they they would 1143 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,359 have to go into scrub oak. 1144 00:43:19,359 --> 00:43:21,700 >> Yeah. And it's and that road up the 1145 00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:22,800 [clears throat] hillsides. So if you put 1146 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,560 the gate in a certain spot it would be 1147 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,160 very difficult. But I'm just curious if 1148 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,960 we put a gate in, could we put it in 1149 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,160 where it would be far enough off the 1150 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,160 road so that when the season is open, it 1151 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,160 would be accessible to go back and forth 1152 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,920 >> so you don't have to move the road every 1153 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,160 year or remove the gate. Is it going to 1154 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,680 be able to go back far enough that we're 1155 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,880 not going to have 1156 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,319 >> people hitting it 1157 00:43:42,319 --> 00:43:44,640 >> going up as when they go by it? That's 1158 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,079 that would be my concern 1159 00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:48,400 >> and I'd want to consult with with our 1160 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,160 roads department to find out. And I 1161 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,400 don't know is I'm assuming we're now in 1162 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,000 National Forest Service area at that 1163 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,400 point on that roadway and and I think 1164 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,839 we'd have to get the National Forest 1165 00:43:57,839 --> 00:43:59,200 Service to give us permission. Is that 1166 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,640 correct? And Darren's nodding his head 1167 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,079 correctly. So 1168 00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:03,839 >> I'm I'm happy to exp I would be happy to 1169 00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:05,599 explore that. I think we have that issue 1170 00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:06,720 come up every year, 1171 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:08,880 >> but I think we can ask we'll ask our 1172 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,640 roads department to go back to the 1173 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,000 Forest Service and ask them if they 1174 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,680 would be amanable. 1175 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,960 >> Again, it's going to be their call 1176 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,240 because it's their land whether they're 1177 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:18,160 going to let us do this or not. But I 1178 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,680 something something worth asking. 1179 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,880 >> And I agree, Commissioner Prey. I 1180 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,560 believe it is National Forest because 1181 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,160 they if it's my understanding that they 1182 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,040 have control of the gate on the on the 1183 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,280 um Devil's Gate road. 1184 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:29,839 >> Yeah. Right. 1185 00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:31,839 >> So they would as well have to have buy 1186 00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:35,119 in and have some um authorization to 1187 00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:36,319 control that road. 1188 00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:37,680 >> That's we can explore. 1189 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,280 >> I'm I'm willing to ask our our roads 1190 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,040 department to go and meet with them and ask and get see if we can we get 1191 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:43,839 permission. And I mean I 1192 00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:45,520 >> and I'm I'm certainly willing to make 1193 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,079 myself accessible to the excuse me if 1194 00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:49,839 you'd like to ride up there and visit 1195 00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:52,319 evaluate the site together. I welcome 1196 00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:54,160 you and I extend that invitation to the 1197 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,920 commissioners. Let's let's get organized 1198 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,560 and visit the site. 1199 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,920 >> I can I can see where I put a I could 1200 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,800 put a gate there. I put a gate but yeah 1201 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,400 >> but it is landlocked. Yeah. 1202 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,720 >> Or the natural barriers on each side 1203 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:05,440 obviously commission. 1204 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,040 >> You might get somebody creating you can 1205 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,160 get anywhere you want if you're 1206 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,119 determined to get there. 1207 00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:10,800 >> Yes. But those 1208 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:11,680 >> they're not going to do it without 1209 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,599 damaging person or vehicle. I guarantee 1210 00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:14,480 you. 1211 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,640 >> I I think deterrence is is the issue 1212 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,119 here. 1213 00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:18,640 >> Just don't plant a Russian olive tree on 1214 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,760 this side so that they can 1215 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,000 >> and and um I echo the I echo the request 1216 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,560 of Mr. Warner that if in fact we're 1217 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,079 going to go ahead and lock the gate at 1218 00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:30,160 Manowway that we as land owners have 1219 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,640 access to a key as well to continue to 1220 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,560 when the road is safely passable to 1221 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,800 continue works at our property there. So 1222 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,839 thank you for your time. Okay. 1223 00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:43,349 >> Thank you. 1224 00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:44,880 Do we need to make a decision tonight on 1225 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:45,280 this? 1226 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,520 >> Okay. 1227 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,040 >> Can we There's no further discussion. I 1228 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,040 need a motion to close public hearing. 1229 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,400 >> I'll make a motion to close public 1230 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,880 hearing on road season road closures. 1231 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,760 >> Second. 1232 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,599 >> Have a motion by Commissioner Perry to 1233 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,119 close the public hearing and a second by 1234 00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:03,440 Commissioner Breen. All in favor say I. 1235 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,240 >> I. 1236 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,640 >> Public hearing is closed. 1237 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,800 >> Okay. And so we'll be able to come back 1238 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,240 at a future commission and make a 1239 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:11,440 decision on this. We won't need to make 1240 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,200 a decision today. We can maybe I'll give 1241 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,040 Darren direction to go back and let's 1242 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,319 meet with the Forest Service and see if 1243 00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:17,200 we can get some of these questions 1244 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,800 answered before we make that final 1245 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,359 determination. 1246 00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:27,440 >> So, is that 1247 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,319 >> is there an ordinance? 1248 00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:29,839 >> Yeah, there yeah, there's an ordinance. 1249 00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:31,839 >> So, yeah, I' I'd make a motion that we 1250 00:46:31,839 --> 00:46:33,440 table the ordinance to a future meeting 1251 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,200 so that we can find out from the 1252 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,760 forester. Before we do that, I'd like to 1253 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,119 find out from the Forest Service if this 1254 00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:41,359 is an option. So, 1255 00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:42,640 >> I'm not sure you need to table it. You 1256 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,599 should pass the ordinance. You can come 1257 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:45,040 back in later a minute if you need to. 1258 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,240 I'd hate to have the ordinance not go 1259 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:47,280 into place. 1260 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:47,680 >> Okay. 1261 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,720 >> When we need it. 1262 00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:49,440 >> You got to come back. 1263 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:50,480 >> I don't know if you have any thoughts on 1264 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,720 that, Glenn, but 1265 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:54,960 >> I think you could do either way, but I I 1266 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,520 think it would be ill advised to build 1267 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,520 up the entire ordinance based on one of 1268 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,359 the roads having an issue. There are 1269 00:47:03,359 --> 00:47:05,839 seven that need to be roller you could 1270 00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:06,319 pass it. 1271 00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:07,839 >> So if we pass it with the with the 1272 00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:09,040 knowledge that we're going to come back 1273 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,960 to look at possibly amending it in the 1274 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,200 next Okay. 1275 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,800 >> I I can accept that. Yeah. So okay, I 1276 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,319 would I would make a motion then that we 1277 00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:20,880 pass seasonal road closure ordinance 658 1278 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,240 with the knowledge that we plan on 1279 00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:23,680 coming back to possibly make an 1280 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,359 amendment for that one road. 1281 00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:27,359 >> Second. We have a motion by Commissioner 1282 00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:29,520 Perry to approve road closure ordinance 1283 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,319 number 658 1284 00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:35,760 uh for winter uh with the agreement that 1285 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,520 we will come back possibly to discuss um 1286 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,760 to some changes to the ordinance and a 1287 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,359 second by Commissioner Bingham. All in 1288 00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:44,319 favor? 1289 00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:44,800 >> I. 1290 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,670 >> Motion passes. Thank you. 1291 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,680 Okay, 1292 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,920 we're out our public comment period of 1293 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,720 uh our meeting. Those who wishing to 1294 00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:58,640 make public comment shall sign the 1295 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,640 comment role and will be responsible for 1296 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,079 the following rules outlined in the 1297 00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:04,240 county commission rules and procedures. 1298 00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,400 Speakers will have one threeminut 1299 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,000 opportunity to speak regardless of 1300 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,079 number of items they wish to address. 1301 00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:14,079 Speakers shall address or rem address their comments to the county 1302 00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:16,160 commission only. This is a time to be 1303 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,520 heard. There will not be a back and 1304 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,440 forth dialogue with the commissioners. 1305 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,040 Speakers may file copies of their 1306 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,160 remarks or supporting information with 1307 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,559 the county clerk. The county clerk will 1308 00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:28,079 make the information available to the 1309 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:31,280 county commission. And we have one 1310 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:44,870 tonight and it's Deanna Hardy. 1311 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,280 Diana Hardy Bigham. The Boxella 1312 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,359 Committee of Liberty opposes the zoning 1313 00:48:49,359 --> 00:48:52,000 of all Boxeller County because it's not 1314 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,400 constitutionally principled. The only 1315 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,640 time zoning is required is when a land 1316 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,559 owner is doing something immoral or 1317 00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:00,640 dangerous or both that will harm another 1318 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,680 property owner. When Melanie Melanie 1319 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,359 Wilding of the Planning Commission came 1320 00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:06,880 before you stating that the planning 1321 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,760 commission's hands are tied because all 1322 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,520 the land in Boxeller County is not 1323 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,440 zoned. Why should the planning 1324 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,359 commission have arbitrary power over 1325 00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:16,880 property owners in telling them what 1326 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,319 they can and cannot do with their 1327 00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:20,400 property? The planning commission is 1328 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,480 just another quasi government program 1329 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,040 operated by appointed board members 1330 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,960 which goes against our republic form of 1331 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,520 government. Elected representatives have 1332 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,599 jurisdiction over zoning and not an 1333 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:34,400 appointed quasi government board. 1334 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,880 Central planning is a Marxist ideology 1335 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,200 and not constitutionally principled. The 1336 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,680 US Constitution article 4 section 4 1337 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,599 states the United States shall guarantee 1338 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:45,680 to every state in the this union a 1339 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,400 republic republican form of government 1340 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,480 and shall protect each of them against 1341 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,880 invasion. Are you protecting our 1342 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,280 government from the invasion of Marxism? 1343 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,480 How about socialism, communism? It is an 1344 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,559 invasion to adopt central planning and 1345 00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:03,280 zoning all landowners property. The only 1346 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,839 exceptions are listed above. James 1347 00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:08,720 Madison comments on property. This term 1348 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:10,720 in particular application means that 1349 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:12,720 dominion which one man claims and 1350 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:14,720 exercises over the external things of 1351 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,119 the world in exclusion of every other 1352 00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:20,079 individual. Central planning is based on 1353 00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,480 community planning and destroying 1354 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,200 individuals planning. Government is 1355 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,119 instituted to protect property of every 1356 00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:29,280 sort as well that which lies in the 1357 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,319 various rights of individuals as the as 1358 00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:33,839 that which the term particularly 1359 00:50:33,839 --> 00:50:35,920 expresses. This being the end of 1360 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,160 government that alone is opinions, their 1361 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,079 religion, their persons and their 1362 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,559 faculties, name more which indirectly 1363 00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:45,040 violates their property in their actual 1364 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,680 possessions. In the labor that acquires 1365 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,599 their dailies assistance, and in the 1366 00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:51,440 hallowed remnant of time which ought to 1367 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,880 relieve their fatigues and soo their 1368 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,839 cares, the influence or inference will 1369 00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:57,920 have been anticipated that such 1370 00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,440 government is not a pattern for the 1371 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,680 United States. If the United States 1372 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,480 means to obtain or deserve full praise 1373 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,880 due to wise and just governments, they 1374 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,720 will equally respect the rights of 1375 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:11,520 property and the property in rights. 1376 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,839 They will rival the government that most 1377 00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:16,079 sacredly guards the former and repealing 1378 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:18,559 its example in violating the latter will 1379 00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:20,400 make themselves a pattern to that and 1380 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,079 all other governments. And it's really 1381 00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:23,680 sad you just violate other people's 1382 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,200 property rights just today with your 1383 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,230 decision. Thank you. 1384 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:33,119 » Okay. 1385 00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:36,000 A warrant register is done. 1386 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,480 Personal actions volunteer action forms. 1387 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:47,030 Jennica, how are you? 1388 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,319 » We don't have a close session, do we, 1389 00:51:48,319 --> 00:52:25,040 Steve? Okay. 1390 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,119 >> Okay. Very good. We don't have a closed 1391 00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:28,640 session, so I need a motion to close the 1392 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:29,599 meeting. 1393 00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:31,280 >> I'll make a motion we adjourn. 1394 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,040 >> Second. Have a motion adjourned by 1395 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,640 Commissioner Perry or Commissioner 1396 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,000 Bingham and a second by Commissioner 1397 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,240 Perry. All in favor say I. 1398 00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:38,720 >> I. 1399 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,079 >> Very good. We're journ till the next 1400 00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:41,440 session. Thank you so much for being 1401 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,349 here with us. 1402 00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:47,599 Okay.