[0:00] tonight. We appreciate you being here in
[0:01] attendance. Um we will start off by
[0:05] having our invocation given by
[0:06] Commissioner Perry.
[0:11] » Our dear Holy Father, we come before
[0:12] this time grateful for the blessings of
[0:14] bestowed upon us. We're grateful for the
[0:15] moisture we received in this past week
[0:17] and we're grateful for the opportunity
[0:19] we had to hold our county fair and have
[0:20] successful fair and a safe time that
[0:24] people could enjoy themselves. And at
[0:26] this time, Father, we ask thy spirit to
[0:28] guide and direct us as we conduct
[0:29] business here at Boxler County. That we
[0:31] can do so in a manner of pleasing in thy
[0:33] eyesight. We pray that thou will bless
[0:35] and watch over those who are protecting
[0:37] us and serving serving us in our
[0:39] community, especially those who are
[0:41] fighting fires and protecting us in
[0:44] overseas. And we pray that they'll
[0:46] please bless and watch over the families
[0:48] who lost loved ones recently. that
[0:50] they'll know that we
[0:52] are concerned for them and want them to
[0:53] know that we love them and appreciate
[0:55] their their family members and the
[0:59] contribution they've provided to Boxar
[1:01] County. We pray that th that will guide
[1:03] and direct us in all that we should do
[1:04] and say and we say this name Jesus
[1:05] Christ do it.
[1:06] >> Amen.
[1:07] >> And we'll have our pledge of allegiance
[1:09] by uh Treasurer Sean Thornley. Please
[1:11] stand for the pledge of
[1:12] >> allegiance
[1:15] to the flag of the United States of
[1:18] America.
[1:19] and to the for it stands one nation
[1:25] indivisible with liberty and justice for
[1:28] [snorts] all.
[1:30] >> Thank you, Commissioner Perry and Sean.
[1:33] Thank you so much. Um I need a motion to
[1:36] approve the minutes from the July 22nd
[1:38] 26 meeting as well as the August 12th,
[1:42] 2026 meeting. I would make a motion that
[1:44] we approve the minutes from July 22nd,
[1:46] 2026 and August 12th of 2026.
[1:49] >> Second.
[1:50] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry
[1:52] and a second by Commissioner Bingham to
[1:54] approve the minutes from the July
[1:56] 2022nd,
[1:58] 2026 meeting and the August 12th, 2026
[2:02] meeting. All in favor say I.
[2:04] >> I.
[2:06] >> Okay. Administrative review reports and
[2:08] future agenda items. Do uh any of our
[2:12] departments do we have anything?
[2:14] >> Commissioner Perry,
[2:15] >> not right now. No.
[2:16] >> Commissioner Bingham?
[2:17] >> No,
[2:18] >> I don't have anything as well.
[2:20] >> Marla, do you have anything?
[2:22] >> Okay, very good. Uh, under former agenda
[2:25] items, Commissioner Bingham has uh uh
[2:27] some things he would like to bring
[2:28] forward.
[2:29] >> Um, yes. The planning commission has
[2:31] been discussing zoning in the county and
[2:34] they have set up um a couple of town
[2:37] hall meetings for the citizens of the
[2:40] county to be involved in a discussion.
[2:42] The dates for that are September 15th at
[2:45] the Utah State University building here
[2:47] in Brigham City at 700 p.m. and also
[2:51] September 26th at the fairgrounds at
[2:54] 1000 a.m. for those that would like to
[2:56] participate.
[2:58] [clears throat]
[3:01] That is 10 a.m. Correct.
[3:02] >> 10 a.m.
[3:03] >> Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Bingham.
[3:06] We appreciate that. Uh, is Mark here? I
[3:10] don't see Mark. Emergency management
[3:11] issues. Uh, ARPA or LTCF.
[3:18] Charlene,
[3:19] I don't there.
[3:22] Okay. Um
[3:24] Annie, would you like to discuss
[3:28] um the
[3:29] >> number 16?
[3:30] the uh HR administrative
[3:34] services director assignment agreement
[3:36] 26-50.
[3:40] » Okay, we'll have Jennica do it.
[3:44] >> All right,
[3:45] >> we've gone to number 16.
[3:46] >> Yeah,
[3:48] >> sorry.
[3:48] >> I'll just go ahead real quick.
[3:51] Okay. So, before you you have an
[3:53] agreement for an administrative services
[3:55] director assignment. It's agreement
[3:58] 26-50.
[4:00] That specific agreement
[4:02] um would allow to have the commission
[4:06] appoint Annie Hansen as the
[4:08] administrative services director for a
[4:11] temporary period not exceeding 18
[4:13] months.
[4:14] Um that specific department would house
[4:18] GIS risk management and the PIO and
[4:21] communications for the county. So do you
[4:23] have any questions on the agreement that
[4:25] you have?
[4:27] >> Commissioner, do you have anything?
[4:29] >> I would appreciate a motion.
[4:32] >> Uh I would make a motion that we approve
[4:36] um administrative services director
[4:38] assignment agreement number 26-50.
[4:40] >> I'll second it. We have a motion by
[4:43] Commissioner Bingham to approve number
[4:45] 2650,
[4:47] uh, administrative services director
[4:49] assignment and a second by Commissioner
[4:51] Perry. All in favor say I.
[4:54] >> I. Motion passes. Thank you.
[4:59] Okay.
[5:04] under public interest peach day's
[5:06] presentation
[5:08] and Monica Holdway is going to come and
[5:10] visit with us for a few minutes.
[5:15] » Hi Monica,
[5:17] good morning, good afternoon, evening,
[5:19] >> whatever it is.
[5:21] >> The time goes.
[5:22] >> We're having fun here. Thank you.
[5:26] for you.
[5:29] >> So, this is just my annual Hey, it's
[5:31] next week.
[5:32] >> We know that, right? [laughter]
[5:34] >> The fair and then peach. Fair and then
[5:36] peach days. Yep. So, we're really
[5:38] excited. Um everything is pretty well
[5:42] the same as in other years. So, the only
[5:44] thing on the county lawn um is going to
[5:47] be the fruit display, of course, and
[5:50] then the hospital's first aid booth. Um,
[5:52] we are not putting bleachers up on the
[5:54] lawn this year. Um, so there won't be
[5:57] bleachers there. So, um, the mayor and I
[6:01] So, um, we were on Good Things Utah this
[6:03] morning. Um, we were on channel 2 last
[6:06] week. Um, we will be on Fox 13 on
[6:09] Thursday and then they'll be in town on
[6:11] Friday morning.
[6:12] >> We're so grateful you're in the news.
[6:16] >> I'll call you if they need, you know,
[6:18] comments. No. Um, we're really excited.
[6:20] Um, like I said, our main entertainment
[6:22] is Maddie Wilson. She'll be performing
[6:25] Saturday night. Um, but yeah, everything
[6:28] else I've already given the employees,
[6:30] the Park County employee parking passes.
[6:33] Um, and like I said, everything else
[6:34] will be the same. So, as long as the
[6:36] sprinklers don't go off on the county
[6:38] lawn, that would be awesome. [laughter]
[6:40] >> We'll we'll see if we can't get that. We
[6:42] don't have that problem.
[6:43] >> Yep.
[6:45] >> We will send it out to Cody. So, unless
[6:47] you have any questions for me, we just
[6:48] really appreciate the support of the
[6:50] county staff and you as the
[6:52] commissioners. So,
[6:54] >> it's going to be a fun time, isn't it?
[6:55] >> It is. Yeah.
[6:56] >> Busy busy.
[6:57] >> Peaches.
[6:58] >> Huh.
[6:58] >> Even without even without peaches.
[7:00] >> Well, there will be still be peaches
[7:01] available. They just lobby from here.
[7:03] >> Yeah. That today on the news they
[7:05] brought that up a little bit and we just
[7:07] said and our peach queen handled it
[7:08] really great. She said, you know, peach,
[7:11] we can have peach days without peaches
[7:13] because it's all about community and
[7:15] celebrating the harvest and maybe
[7:17] celebrating the harvest of not peaches
[7:18] this year, but other harvests and
[7:20] celebrating the community. So, she
[7:22] answered it really well and
[7:23] >> good. Well, that's really what it's all
[7:25] about, right? The fair and then peach
[7:26] days. It's all about bringing
[7:27] communities together and
[7:29] >> Yep. celebrating relationships,
[7:30] celebrating our area. So,
[7:32] >> celebrating our heritage. So,
[7:34] >> yeah. Okay. Any questions?
[7:36] >> Nope.
[7:37] >> I think we're good. Thank you so much.
[7:38] appreciate it. We look forward to it.
[7:43] » Okay. Um number eight, uh proposed
[7:46] agricultural protection area and we need
[7:49] to do a public hearing and Mara's going
[7:52] to talk to us a little bit about that
[7:53] one.
[7:54] >> This particular a protection area is in
[7:56] the Lwood area. Um all of the proper um
[8:02] publications notices have been sent and
[8:05] mailed and put in the paper and have
[8:08] been sent to the A board and the
[8:10] planning commission for review. The
[8:11] total acres in this one is 1,384.76
[8:17] acres and um all the parcels that were
[8:22] needing to be reszoned went through that
[8:24] at the same time as the act protection
[8:27] was in process. So,
[8:29] >> okay. Very good. Thank you.
[8:31] Commissioners, I need a motion to open a
[8:33] public hearing.
[8:34] >> I would make a motion we open a public
[8:36] hearing.
[8:37] >> Second.
[8:38] >> We have an a motion to open a public
[8:40] hearing by Commissioner uh Perry and a
[8:42] second by Commissioner Bingham. All in
[8:44] favor?
[8:44] >> I.
[8:45] >> Public hearing is open. Please keep your
[8:48] comments to this agenda item only.
[9:00] Diana Hardy Bigham. The Boxella
[9:03] Committee of Liberty again opposes
[9:04] agricultural protection areas because
[9:06] they are unconstitutional.
[9:08] Where in the constitution does it give
[9:10] the government authority to form
[9:12] agricultural protection areas? Also,
[9:14] when the government requires a fee from
[9:16] the property owner to be in the
[9:17] agricultural protection area, this is
[9:20] extortion. Paying for protection. It
[9:23] would be interesting to conduct a survey
[9:25] with all the property owners as well as
[9:27] the citizens to see how many have read
[9:28] the Utah Constitution. It probably
[9:31] wouldn't be many. They do not have the
[9:33] knowledge that they already are
[9:34] protected according to Article 1,
[9:36] Section 1, which states, "All men have
[9:38] the inherent and enable right to enjoy
[9:40] and defend their lives and liberties to
[9:42] acquire, possess, and protect property."
[9:45] Article 1 section two all political
[9:48] powers inherit in the people and all
[9:50] free governments are founded on their
[9:52] authority for equal protection and
[9:53] benefit and they have the right to all
[9:55] to reform their government as a public
[9:57] welfare may require. US Constitution
[10:00] Amendment 9 states the enumeration in
[10:02] the constitution of certain rights shall
[10:04] not be construed nor deny or disparage
[10:07] others retained by the people. God gave
[10:10] us our land and liberty and government's
[10:12] duty and responsibility is to preserve
[10:14] and protect those rights. Our
[10:16] representatives take an oath of office
[10:17] to support, obey, and defend both the US
[10:19] and state constitutions. Are each of you
[10:22] keeping your oath of office? Thomas
[10:24] Jefferson stated, "Bind government down
[10:27] from mischief by the chains of the
[10:29] Constitution. Both the US and state
[10:31] constitution should be followed, not
[10:33] ignored and subverted." When the Utah
[10:36] legislature is passing arbitrary laws
[10:38] that violate the constitutions and their
[10:40] oath of office, the cities and counties
[10:42] are to be the checks and balances to
[10:44] notify the Utah state legislature that
[10:47] they have usurp power and the cities and
[10:49] counties will not comply. Thomas
[10:52] Jefferson stated, "Anything contrary to
[10:54] the constitution
[10:56] are null and void and of no force. The
[10:58] agriculture protection areas are null
[11:01] and void and of no force because they
[11:03] are contrary to both constitutions. A
[11:05] well-informed people can always defend
[11:07] their property and liberty. A people who
[11:09] are not wellinformed sink to desperatism
[11:12] and slavery. John Adams stated property
[11:15] must be secured or liberty cannot exist.
[11:18] Thank you.
[11:20] >> Thank you.
[11:28] Is there anyone else would like to make
[11:30] comment? Okay, I make I would like a
[11:33] motion to close public hearing, please.
[11:36] >> I'll make a motion that we close the
[11:38] public hearing for the agriculture
[11:39] protection area.
[11:40] >> I'll second it.
[11:42] >> We have a motion to close the public
[11:43] hearing by Commissioner Perry and a
[11:44] second by Commissioner Bingham. All in
[11:46] favor say I.
[11:47] >> I. Public hearing is now closed.
[11:52] Resolution
[11:54] number 2626, approving the proposal to
[11:58] create an agricultural protection area.
[12:01] Um, I'd like to make a motion to approve
[12:03] resolution number resolution number
[12:05] 2626, approving a proposal to create an
[12:07] agricultural protection area.
[12:10] >> I'll second it.
[12:11] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Bingham
[12:13] to approve resolution number 26-26,
[12:16] approving a proposal to create an
[12:18] agricultural
[12:20] protection area. A second by
[12:22] Commissioner Perry. All in favor say I.
[12:24] >> I.
[12:25] >> Motion passes. Thank you.
[12:28] >> Okay. Uh, predator control contract
[12:31] 2647.
[12:32] Chrissy.
[12:39] This is a contract that we enter to
[12:42] enter into with the state every single
[12:44] year. I think it's pretty standard. Um,
[12:47] Glenn has I think has gone through it.
[12:50] So, I think it's good to go. It's with
[12:52] the wool growers for the state.
[12:55] >> Yep.
[12:57] >> I've read it.
[12:59] >> I need a motion.
[13:00] >> I'd make a motion that we approve the
[13:02] contract um 26-47 for predator control.
[13:07] >> Second.
[13:08] >> Have a motion by Commissioner Perry to
[13:10] approve predator control contract number
[13:12] 26-47.
[13:14] A second by Commissioner Bingham. All in
[13:17] favor say I. I. Motion passes. Thanks,
[13:20] Chrissy.
[13:23] Ambulance and fire needs of Boxelder
[13:26] County in Willard City. Je Jeremy
[13:28] Kippton will come and visit with us a
[13:30] little bit about that.
[13:34] » How are you guys doing?
[13:35] >> Doing well. How are you guys
[13:36] >> doing? Good. Good to see you, man.
[13:39] >> Wow. Well, thanks.
[13:39] >> Hey, man.
[13:40] >> Thanks for letting us have just a few
[13:42] minutes of your time. The mayor uh asked
[13:44] me to get us on the agenda and he let me
[13:45] know about an hour ago he wasn't going
[13:47] to be here in time. [laughter] So,
[13:48] you're stuck with
[13:49] >> I kind of give you the assignment.
[13:50] >> Yeah, exactly.
[13:52] >> Isn't that great?
[13:53] >> So, you're stuck with Van and I. Um, but
[13:56] I think, you know, I think our message
[13:57] and I'm happy to
[13:58] >> yourself just so that
[13:59] >> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm I'm Jeremy Kempton.
[14:02] I'm the city manager for Willard. Van's
[14:04] our fire chief.
[14:05] >> I'm Van Mund and I'm fire chief.
[14:07] >> Thanks.
[14:09] So, um, like I said, um, our hope maybe
[14:12] tonight is maybe to get a little
[14:13] direction from you guys and a little bit
[14:15] of an idea what you need from us and
[14:16] what your hopes are if if there are any
[14:20] desire to have some relationships moving
[14:23] forward between um, Willard City and Box
[14:25] Elder, specifically South Willard. Um, I
[14:27] know we've had some discussions
[14:29] >> Sure.
[14:29] >> over the past year and um, I think we're
[14:32] at a point now we've we've purchased a
[14:34] couple of ambulances and we're ready to
[14:37] >> head down that path and I think we're
[14:39] just trying to decide what what you guys
[14:41] envision that relationship to look like
[14:42] for and not maybe just ambulance and
[14:45] fire but police as well. But
[14:47] >> um,
[14:48] >> well I guess what our next steps would
[14:50] be. Van
[14:50] >> I mean we are headed down that road for
[14:53] world city. I mean, we're we're not
[14:56] going to go to do anything else. We are
[14:59] going to provide our own ambulance
[15:01] service and everything for our city. And
[15:04] our contract, our fire contract with
[15:07] Oxel County, I believe, expired in June
[15:09] or July. So,
[15:11] >> um I guess we're like Jeremy said, we're
[15:14] here to discuss or see where you wanted
[15:18] us to head down what we needed to do to
[15:22] see where we're going with that and and
[15:24] providing ambulance service to South
[15:26] Willard.
[15:28] >> Okay.
[15:29] >> I'm comfortable. I I think that's where
[15:30] we'd want to go. I think you having an
[15:33] ambulance that much closer to our
[15:34] citizens that are in South Willard makes
[15:35] sense. you're already providing a great
[15:37] service and have been providing us a
[15:39] great service when it comes to fire um
[15:41] with with this fairly as rapid response
[15:43] as anybody could expect right now in
[15:45] South Willard with where we're at. So,
[15:47] we would probably want to continue to
[15:48] have, you know, negotiations and make
[15:50] sure that we're getting working with
[15:52] Willard to continue to provide service
[15:54] to those folks in South Willard until
[15:56] the day comes if they choose to be part
[15:58] of Willard at some point. But until
[16:00] then, yeah, we I think as a county, as a
[16:02] county, we that you're the best option
[16:05] to provide that public.
[16:06] >> You guys are doing Yeah. And you guys
[16:08] are doing a phenomenal job.
[16:10] >> On the law enforcement side, we
[16:11] obviously have to deal with uh our
[16:13] sheriffs, the sheriff's department would
[16:14] be the issue with the law enforcement
[16:16] part, but I think from fire and EMS
[16:17] side, we would we would definitely
[16:19] support you guys moving forward with
[16:21] that.
[16:21] >> So, what do we need to do is our next
[16:24] step? Do we need to draft up?
[16:26] >> Well, you pro probably need to draft up
[16:28] an
[16:29] >> agreement, but also um
[16:31] >> if you haven't started down the process,
[16:33] you need to get a license to the state
[16:35] for your EMS.
[16:36] >> We cannot that until February.
[16:39] >> Okay,
[16:39] >> that's what the state said because not
[16:42] no more than six months before we're to
[16:44] take over.
[16:45] >> Okay. Our area. So, that's when that
[16:48] process will be started and
[16:51] ultimately we haven't uh shouldn't have
[16:54] issues there.
[16:55] >> We we've been working with the state
[16:56] pretty close to make sure we're ready to
[16:58] go. So once that deadline gets here,
[17:00] we're ready to pull the trigger and get
[17:01] going.
[17:02] >> Yeah. We just want to make sure you're
[17:03] prepared that when that does happen that
[17:04] you guys are ready to go.
[17:05] >> I know Cody and Kevin want to work with
[17:07] you. So if you want to reach out to them
[17:08] as well, they may be able to do
[17:09] something to work with you because we we
[17:11] do have a contract in the county to
[17:12] provide ammo service.
[17:14] >> Right. Okay.
[17:14] >> We could probably provide for South
[17:15] Alert right now if we needed to. So
[17:17] >> Okay.
[17:18] >> And I actually chief, I think that's
[17:20] something we ought to be looking at.
[17:22] >> And what's that? I think that's
[17:23] something we ought to be looking at is
[17:24] moving forward as quickly as possible.
[17:26] So,
[17:26] >> I think we need to have a meeting and
[17:28] visit.
[17:29] >> Uh we've been busy with other cities,
[17:31] but I think we need to sit down and
[17:32] visit and find out what direction we
[17:34] want to go on
[17:35] >> best request with the through the
[17:37] through Kevin to to pay you for the fire
[17:39] services you guys have provided this
[17:40] last year. So, I don't know if you
[17:42] received that yet or not, but
[17:43] >> what's that?
[17:44] >> I don't know if you received that
[17:45] payment yet or not, but I know Kevin was
[17:46] going to forward it through our
[17:48] >> I'll find I I don't know if we have or
[17:49] not. We may have. I can't. Usually
[17:51] they'll ask where we want it allocated.
[17:53] I I don't think I've seen it quite yet,
[17:54] but
[17:55] >> Yeah. Very good.
[17:57] >> Who would you like us to reach out to to
[17:58] set up a meeting?
[18:01] >> I think if we can get with Corey Oaks
[18:02] and Kevin Lloyd and and
[18:05] >> set a meeting, have them reach out to us
[18:06] and set up a meeting and we can all sit
[18:08] down and talk.
[18:08] >> Great.
[18:09] >> So, find out what our next steps are and
[18:11] what we do to go forward.
[18:12] >> Okay. We'll do that. We'll we'll get
[18:14] we'll reach out to them, get something
[18:15] set up and get moving sooner than later.
[18:17] >> Sounds awesome. Sooner the better.
[18:19] really appreciate you guys.
[18:20] >> If you can have if you want to have your
[18:21] attorney start drafting some language
[18:23] that we can have our attorney's office
[18:24] kind of match for what you're proposing
[18:27] moving forward ambulance service wise
[18:29] along with maybe the look at the fire
[18:31] contract to update it.
[18:32] >> Okay.
[18:32] >> Maybe kind of combine the two to say
[18:34] this is what what would be so we could
[18:36] get a contract in place moving forward.
[18:38] >> Okay. We'll get started on that. I think
[18:39] she's already started working on that.
[18:40] So, but I'll I'll nudge it along.
[18:42] >> Okay. Very good. Okay.
[18:44] >> Thank you, gentlemen. Thanks for your
[18:45] time.
[18:51] Okay. Um,
[18:54] number C, request of purchase of surplus
[18:57] prop uh, parcel number 08-065-000012,
[19:03] uh, compliant parcel that was not sold
[19:06] at tax sale in 2026. Ryan Nelson, how
[19:09] are you?
[19:09] >> Good. How are you guys doing?
[19:10] >> Good.
[19:13] >> So, exactly that. I'm seeking the
[19:15] commission's approval to buy that parcel
[19:17] that was not sold in 2026 and it is
[19:20] compliant which is very few and far
[19:23] between out there.
[19:26] » Okay, this where do you want to have
[19:28] Scott come up and explain? Scott, can
[19:30] you talk for a minute, please?
[19:32] >> So, we're trying to figure out exactly
[19:33] what what we can do and how what our
[19:34] options are and that's why we're asking
[19:36] Scott to come talk to us. So,
[19:40] » how's it going, Scott?
[19:41] >> Good.
[19:44] you want to explain to us what what we
[19:46] need to do as a commission on this or
[19:47] what our options are?
[19:48] >> So, [clears throat] as far as when when
[19:50] there is county surplus property, uh the
[19:54] county has a a disposal process that was
[19:58] adopted um 25 years ago, amended 15
[20:02] years ago. Um anyway, it basically
[20:07] allows the county commission to one
[20:09] decide if they want to surplus that
[20:11] particular piece of property. um that uh
[20:15] you know it may be something the county
[20:17] wants to hold on to. They may find some
[20:19] use for it, whether that be for fire or
[20:21] sheriff or roads or who knows what. Uh
[20:24] if it's not a piece that they want to
[20:26] hold on to, um then it likely makes
[20:29] sense to either get back, you know, on
[20:32] the tax books, something like that. Uh
[20:35] so this policy outlines how that is to
[20:39] take place. So step one is to decide if
[20:42] it, you know, if if it makes sense to
[20:44] surplus it or not. And then uh if if
[20:48] decided that surplusing makes sense,
[20:50] then the county commission needs to
[20:52] decide how uh h how to value that
[20:56] property. Um so it sets forth five
[21:01] different ways to do that. uh sealed
[21:03] competitive bid, a public auction,
[21:06] evaluation by a qualified and
[21:08] disinterested appraiser, um the Boxler
[21:11] County Assessor's Office, or other
[21:13] professional publications or valuation
[21:15] services. So, so those are the those are
[21:18] the five different ways that um a value
[21:21] could be applied to that property in
[21:23] order to um determine this the sales
[21:26] price for it. Once that is decided, then
[21:30] you would direct um me to take it
[21:33] through the process. We run it through
[21:34] the planning commission. Planning
[21:36] commission reviews it per this policy.
[21:38] Couple things they look at as far as um
[21:41] the general plan and things like that.
[21:43] And then their recommendation comes back
[21:45] to you and we're supposed to go through
[21:48] a noticing period and then um you would
[21:51] take action from there as far as the
[21:54] final sale of the property. So step one
[21:57] would be determining if you want to
[21:59] surplus it and how to value it.
[22:03] >> Okay.
[22:04] >> Commissioners,
[22:07] >> is there discussion?
[22:08] >> Is there a best way to figure out how to
[22:09] value it? I don't
[22:11] >> how that
[22:12] >> So So he may have done some research. Uh
[22:15] I've spoken I believe it was your wife
[22:17] that stopped by. I spoke with her for a
[22:19] little bit and kind of gave her the
[22:20] rundown as far as what the different
[22:22] options are that you that that are have
[22:25] been used historically. Um,
[22:30] I think the two the two main ones that
[22:32] I've seen often times when we surplus a
[22:35] piece of property, it's it's kind of
[22:36] these smaller slivers or triangles,
[22:39] awkward pieces of property that that
[22:42] nothing really can be done with them
[22:44] except for uh, you know, usually it's an
[22:46] adjoining neighbor that is
[22:49] >> okay there's this 2,000 square foot
[22:52] piece adjacent to my property and in
[22:55] that case uh, the property may only be
[22:58] worth a couple hundred dollars and so it
[23:00] doesn't make sense to have an appraisal
[23:02] done where the appraisal is going to
[23:03] actually cost more than the property and
[23:05] so you have used the assessor's office
[23:07] to value that in in those scenarios.
[23:10] There have been other scenarios where uh
[23:12] you know an appraisal has been requested
[23:15] and that appraisal has been the
[23:17] responsibility of the interested party
[23:19] uh and sometimes they go through with
[23:22] it. Sometimes they say, uh, that's going
[23:24] to in the end, you know, it might be
[23:27] $6,000 for the parcel and, you know,
[23:29] a,000 or two for the appraisal and that
[23:32] the appraisal price just pushes it to
[23:34] where it no longer makes sense for them
[23:36] >> and they kind of abandon the, you know,
[23:38] the quest to acquire that piece of land.
[23:40] So, this particular case, it sounds like
[23:42] you've done a little bit of homework.
[23:43] I'll let you.
[23:45] >> Um, yeah. So, when it went up for tax
[23:47] sale, it was going up for, I believe,
[23:49] like $475
[23:51] and nobody bid on it, so it just went to
[23:53] Fox County. Uh, one of the options is to
[23:56] pay the price that the county assessor's
[23:58] office has it at. They currently have it
[24:00] assessed at $1,86.
[24:04] We're willing to pay that price and it
[24:07] fits under one of those ones. And that
[24:10] was the evaluation in 25 which is the
[24:13] latest that I could find on public
[24:15] record. Um if there's a newer valuation
[24:17] from the assessor's office, we'd also be
[24:19] willing to pay that price.
[24:22] >> And currently the property is just
[24:24] there's nothing on the property. It's
[24:25] just
[24:26] >> there's nothing on the property. I have
[24:27] a map of it. It's all the way out in
[24:29] Park Valley and it's just empty right in
[24:33] the middle off the road. To give you a
[24:36] reference, it's uh going west of
[24:39] Snowville on Highway 30 before you get
[24:42] to the split where it would go north to
[24:44] the Clear Creek area or south to the
[24:46] Park Valley. So, it's just east of that
[24:48] split. Okay. Um and it's an 8.8 acre
[24:52] parcel that uh straddles the Highway 30
[24:56] there.
[25:01] » Um I don't know. Can we can we take it
[25:05] um I would suggest that we take it under
[25:07] adisement and maybe make a decision
[25:09] between now and the next commission
[25:10] meeting and then if we do that then we
[25:12] would go through the abandonment process
[25:13] and make sure that m Mr. Nelson is aware
[25:15] of it and keep them informed and that
[25:18] way at least because in fairness until I saw it on the agenda I wasn't
[25:23] aware that we had this piece of property
[25:24] out there. So I need to find out what it's doing out there and what uh if
[25:28] any reason why we want it. It's would
[25:30] have been ideal if somebody had just
[25:31] bought it during the tax sale and I get
[25:33] that but and that's why I'm not sure
[25:34] closed bids going to help us out a lot.
[25:36] I don't know if anybody buy during tax
[25:38] sale that it's going to go for a whole
[25:39] lot more than that anyway. So, but I
[25:42] think we ought to explore the issue and
[25:43] find out what this property looks like
[25:45] and talk to a few of our the folks out
[25:47] there to find out if there's a purpose
[25:48] of any kind that we'd ever I I don't
[25:50] know why we'd want to keep it as a
[25:51] county personally right now um off the
[25:54] top of my head, but I I would like to
[25:56] have at least a couple weeks to figure
[25:58] that out and next commission meeting
[25:59] make the decision
[26:01] what we want to do. So,
[26:04] >> yeah, I think that's a good suggestion.
[26:07] >> So, you want a motion to that? Yes, sir.
[26:09] I would make a motion that we uh
[26:12] that we table the item till next meeting
[26:15] to make a before we make a decision on
[26:17] it so we can find out more about the
[26:19] property to determine if if and what we
[26:21] need to do with it if we want to go down
[26:24] that road of abandonment which can be
[26:26] purchased.
[26:27] >> Second. We have a motion by Commissioner
[26:30] Perry to take the center adisement, give
[26:33] us some opportunity to review and see um
[26:37] this look at this property, make a
[26:38] decision if the county needs it or not.
[26:41] Uh this is parcel 08-065-0012
[26:45] and a second by Commissioner Bingham.
[26:48] Any other
[26:50] comments? All in favor?
[26:52] >> I.
[26:53] >> Motion passes. Thank you. We'll do some
[26:55] review and get back with you.
[26:56] >> Thank you.
[27:00] Okay. Appointment to the Metro Lease
[27:02] Services District and Commissioners.
[27:05] >> Uh yes. Um I it' be my motion that we
[27:08] appoint Michael A. Allen from Brigham
[27:10] City to uh serve on the Mineral East
[27:13] Committee, the Mineral East board. It
[27:14] would be a four-year assignment.
[27:17] >> Is that correct, Glenn? This is a
[27:18] four-year one, right? Okay. It'd be a
[27:20] four-year assignment. And he would be
[27:21] taking the Brigham Karen area would be
[27:23] the area of the Mineral East board.
[27:24] That's the area he represents.
[27:30] Is that a motion?
[27:31] >> That was a motion. Yes.
[27:32] >> Second.
[27:33] >> We have a motion by Commissioner Perry
[27:35] to appoint Michael A. Allen. Is that
[27:38] correct?
[27:38] >> Yes.
[27:39] >> To uh the Mineral Lease Special Service
[27:42] District and a second by Commissioner
[27:44] Bingham. All in favor say I.
[27:46] >> I.
[27:47] >> Motion passes. Thank you.
[27:52] Okay. under community development
[27:56] ordinance um number 666 home occupations
[28:01] and can we please change that number
[28:04] and
[28:04] >> we will have Scott Lions come and talk
[28:06] to us about that. Can we change it to
[28:07] like 667 or something like that?
[28:09] [laughter]
[28:14] » We were the uh the unlucky ones.
[28:18] So, this proposed ordinance is a text
[28:22] amendment to section 5-1-290
[28:27] of the uh county's land use and
[28:30] development code. This section of code
[28:33] regulates home occupations. Um, so the
[28:37] applicant here requested currently under
[28:41] home occupations uh there is a list of
[28:45] prohibited uses. Um, and this particular
[28:48] one is body piercing, body art, or
[28:51] tattoo parlor. And they are requesting
[28:53] that that be removed from the list of
[28:55] home of from the list of prohibited
[28:58] uses. Um, so in the the definitions um
[29:05] come from state code and state code uh
[29:08] for a variety of reasons. uh that gets
[29:13] pretty gets pretty technical as far as
[29:15] health department regulations and
[29:17] different things like that associated
[29:18] with this, but it includes um like
[29:22] permanent cosmetics. So, when you get
[29:24] your eyebrows microbladed or have your
[29:27] eyeliner tattooed, different things like
[29:30] that, that falls under this same
[29:33] section, uh same land use, if you will.
[29:37] Uh so the request is to remove that
[29:40] entirely. Um it's viewed by the
[29:44] applicant and I should say as well by
[29:46] the planning commission as no different
[29:48] than if somebody wants to have a chair
[29:51] in their basement and a home salon or
[29:52] anything like that. So uh the planning
[29:56] commission held their public hearing.
[29:57] There was no opposition to it. There
[29:59] were um two attendees that spoke in
[30:02] favor of it and the planning commission
[30:05] uh forwarded a recommendation of
[30:06] approval and that recommendation um is
[30:11] included in ordinance number 666.
[30:19] » Okay.
[30:20] Well, since we can't change the number,
[30:22] I I will make a motion that we approve
[30:23] ordinance 666.
[30:26] >> Second. We have a motion to approve
[30:29] ordinance 666 by Commissioner
[30:33] Perry and a second by Commissioner
[30:34] Bingham. There's no further discussion.
[30:36] All in favor say I.
[30:38] >> I.
[30:39] >> Thanks.
[30:40] >> Thank you.
[30:42] >> Okay.
[30:45] Number 12, fairgrounds ratification of
[30:47] agreement 26-49
[30:51] road to services. And Glenn's going to
[30:53] visit with us that with that a little
[30:55] bit.
[30:56] >> Yes. So, we had the rodeo last week. Um,
[30:59] there's some difficulties and
[31:01] complications in getting the uh the
[31:05] rodeo had been taken over by a new rodeo
[31:07] company. We had a little bit of problems
[31:09] getting them to sign it. Um, we did get
[31:11] it signed before the rodeo. Um, and we
[31:15] didn't have a county commission meeting
[31:16] in between when we got it signed in the
[31:18] rodeo. So, we're here to ratify that
[31:21] decision.
[31:22] >> Yep. I'd make a motion that we ratify
[31:24] the agreement 2649 for rodeo services as
[31:27] discussed.
[31:28] >> Second. We
[31:29] >> have a motion by Commissioner Perry to
[31:31] approve ratification of agreement number
[31:34] 26-49 for the rodeo services as
[31:37] presented by Glenn Thirsten. Second by
[31:39] Commissioner Bingham. There's no further
[31:41] discussion. All in favor say I.
[31:43] >> I.
[31:44] >> Hey, thank you Glenn. Appreciate it.
[31:48] Quarter's office
[31:51] public land survey system grant number
[31:54] 2648 for the monument replacement and
[31:57] restoration
[31:59] uh committee. Chad Montgomery is going
[32:01] to visit with us.
[32:02] >> Chad Montgomery, Boxelder County
[32:03] Recorder. Um this is our standard uh
[32:07] state contract grant for the section
[32:10] corners that we have an opportunity to
[32:13] apply for every year. we were
[32:15] successful. Um, and the contract is for
[32:18] $24,836.80
[32:22] um that we can get from the the state
[32:23] for this uh to use through uh to
[32:29] uh upgrade and uh perpetuate the the
[32:33] section corners in the county.
[32:37] >> Very good. Need a motion.
[32:39] I'll make a motion that we approve or we
[32:42] ratify the agreement number 26. Nope,
[32:44] sorry. We approve FY27 public land
[32:48] survey system grant agreement 26-48 from
[32:51] the Monument Replacement and Restoration
[32:53] Committee.
[32:54] >> I'll second it. We have a motion by
[32:56] Commissioner Bingham to approve the
[32:59] public land survey system grant
[33:00] agreement number 26-48
[33:03] for the monument replacement restoration
[33:06] and second by Commissioner Perry.
[33:09] There's no further discussion. All in
[33:10] favor say I.
[33:11] >> I.
[33:12] >> Thanks Chad. Appreciate you.
[33:15] >> Okay. Number 14, public hearing.
[33:19] uh the winter 2026 seasonal road closure
[33:24] public hearing and Darren's going to
[33:25] come up and visit with us for a few
[33:27] minutes and then we'll open a public
[33:28] hearing.
[33:35] » Good evening, gentlemen. Darren
[33:37] McFarland with Boxiller County Roads. Um
[33:40] this is our annual announcement of road
[33:43] closures that the uh state government
[33:46] asked us to start doing a few years
[33:47] back.
[33:49] Doesn't change anything the seasonal
[33:50] road closures they stay the same dates
[33:53] and all. So
[33:56] >> okay how many are we talking about?
[34:00] » I think there are depending on weather
[34:03] there can be seven. There's two of them,
[34:05] three of them that weather depending we
[34:08] don't close sometimes,
[34:11] >> but those are out west, way out west.
[34:14] Cotton Thomas Pass, if it doesn't snow a
[34:16] lot, we don't close it.
[34:18] And a couple others, Lynn Pass. So
[34:22] ones in town that I guess if you want to
[34:24] call it in town are five short divide,
[34:27] long divide, Rocky, Dougway, Willard
[34:29] Peak Road, and Derry Road.
[34:35] And those are November.
[34:36] >> They're all They're all weather pending
[34:38] except for Rocky Dougway. And that's
[34:41] July
[34:43] it's either July 15th to November 1 or
[34:45] July 1, November 15th.
[34:47] >> And everything else is weather pending.
[34:49] >> Everything else is weather. Yep.
[34:51] >> Okay.
[34:52] >> Open and closing depends depends on
[34:55] weather.
[34:57] >> Very good. Okay.
[35:00] >> Okay. Motion to open the public hearing.
[35:04] I'll make a motion we open the public
[35:06] hearing to discuss 2026 seasonal road
[35:09] closure.
[35:09] >> I'll second it.
[35:10] >> We have a motion to open the public
[35:11] hearing for the 2026 seasonal road
[35:14] closure by Commissioner Bingham and a
[35:17] second by Commissioner Perry. All in
[35:18] favor?
[35:20] >> Public hearing is now open. Please keep
[35:21] your comments to this
[35:24] uh
[35:26] issue only. We'll go from there.
[35:45] Vernon Warner. Um, I'm a proper property
[35:49] owner up in the Devil Gate Valley. um
[35:52] recipient of um property that was
[35:55] inherited
[35:57] um that I received from my
[35:59] great-grandfather, grandfather, and it's
[36:02] just been in the family for years and years. Um the family had over
[36:06] six square miles of land up there in the
[36:08] Devil's Gate Valley. We were the ones
[36:10] that put the roads in originally for
[36:13] sheep and cattle grazing. So, um it's
[36:18] been a problem ever since. We used to
[36:20] have an old cable up there with the
[36:22] white rocks that said no trespassing,
[36:24] but then it was declared a public road
[36:27] sometime I don't know in the early
[36:30] 2000s. Um there [clears throat] was a
[36:33] originally a gate and a cable up there
[36:35] established. Uh there was a new one put
[36:38] up there in the year 2007 to close the
[36:41] Devil Gate from [clears throat] the
[36:43] public because they were doing such so
[36:46] much property damage running all over
[36:48] the place going through the meadows. Uh
[36:51] so [clears throat] it is our intent that
[36:54] this is a road closure. There should be
[36:56] a road closure. Otherwise, it's
[36:58] restricted access by the 52-inch
[37:00] vehicles, and that's not [clears throat]
[37:02] not fair to us as property owners that
[37:04] don't have a 52-in vehicle to go through
[37:08] there. But we should have access to our
[37:09] road to kind of see what's damaged. So,
[37:11] if you're closing the road, then call it
[37:13] a closure, not a limited access. Close
[37:15] it completely. So, it's my testimony and
[37:20] my my request that we look at that
[37:23] seriously that uh one, you're
[37:25] restricting me as a land owner to be
[37:27] able to go up there and check on my
[37:28] property after the 15th of November.
[37:32] That's generally speaking when they
[37:34] close it. Uh but it's not a road
[37:36] closure. It's a restricted access. So,
[37:38] anybody with a a small vehicle can go up
[37:41] there and do whatever they want. and we
[37:43] the land owners don't have keys and
[37:44] can't go up there and check on things,
[37:46] make sure that our property is not being
[37:48] destroyed. Uh and then it's open back in
[37:50] the spring, [clears throat]
[37:52] but we don't have a chance to go up
[37:54] there and really notify the uh county
[37:57] roads that, hey, the road's still not
[37:59] accessible. really better hold off and
[38:01] keep it from, you know, the church has
[38:04] gone up there and done a lot of work
[38:06] this year and I'm sure they don't want
[38:08] that road destroyed at their expense
[38:10] that they did uh to make it so it's
[38:13] easier to get in the church camp. So, um
[38:16] there's a couple of things. If if you're
[38:18] going to allow the uh restricted access
[38:20] instead of a road closure, then I think
[38:22] that that you as a commissioner uh
[38:26] should agree that the property owners
[38:27] that have property up there be able to
[38:30] be given a key that we don't have to go
[38:32] and fight for a key. We can have the
[38:34] access to a key so that we can go and
[38:36] make sure that people aren't destroying
[38:38] that are going in there on a restricted
[38:40] access. So, that's one of the requests
[38:43] that we as land owners up there have
[38:45] agreed that we're asking for.
[38:48] [clears throat]
[38:49] Uh, and then, uh, the the gate there at
[38:53] Devil's Gate. Originally, there was a
[38:55] sign there that says it was a road
[38:57] closure, uh, but that was taken down.
[39:00] Uh, and so we'd like this to be
[39:03] considered that we either go with what
[39:06] was established for years up there, go
[39:09] back to that or the land owners have
[39:12] keys so we can go in and check on our
[39:14] properties, make sure that people aren't
[39:16] vandalizing, tearing things up. So, uh,
[39:19] that's one of the things that I request
[39:21] in this public hearing and, uh, let it
[39:23] be known. Thank you. Okay.
[39:25] >> Thank you so much. Appreciate it.
[39:40] Todd Thompson, Manowway Valley
[39:41] Recreation Camps. I was going to ask the
[39:44] commission for clarification on the
[39:45] closure at the Manowway Road. Is that a
[39:48] seasonal closure or is that closure
[39:50] subject to discretion of the road
[39:53] department?
[39:56] It
[39:56] >> says seasonal on the agenda.
[39:58] >> Well, I understood it that we were just
[40:00] talking about it would be seasonal based
[40:01] on the weather. Is that So, Steve, I was
[40:02] going to ask you a couple questions.
[40:03] Correct me
[40:04] >> if I'm wrong. Um, it's a seasonal
[40:06] closure, but depending on the season,
[40:08] the uh roads department decides when
[40:10] that's going to be closed. Is that
[40:11] right?
[40:13] >> Because we may not have snow one year,
[40:15] we may have.
[40:15] >> So, it could be it could it could stay
[40:17] open if we didn't get any snow. though
[40:19] and it' be a seasonal based on
[40:22] precipitation and what it's going to do
[40:24] to the road and create what what I think
[40:26] it's going to create for the roads
[40:27] department to maintain
[40:28] >> the ability to to
[40:31] safely pass passage is is your
[40:34] >> that that's my understanding. Yes,
[40:35] >> correct.
[40:37] I'd also like to um maybe suggest the
[40:40] commission would entertain the idea of
[40:42] an intermediate gate placed between the
[40:44] Manowway current Manowway gate now and
[40:47] the Willard Basin area. I understand and
[40:51] fully understand that you're protecting
[40:53] that road until the moisture or snow
[40:56] pack melts and the road is safely
[40:58] passable. However, the upper three miles
[41:00] of that road takes much much longer to
[41:03] melt off, become passable than the lower
[41:05] three miles.
[41:07] So, I'm asking the commission to
[41:08] entertain the idea of putting an
[41:09] intermediate gate at the White Rock
[41:11] Willard Peak Road Split where landowners
[41:15] could once it becomes passable in the
[41:17] lower three miles access their property
[41:19] safely start winter renovations,
[41:22] closures, and spring openings earlier
[41:25] than allowing and waiting for the upper
[41:28] portion of that road to be melted off.
[41:30] It's a very distinct time difference
[41:33] there for accessibility to the private
[41:34] properties.
[41:36] So, I'm asking the commission if they
[41:37] would entertain that idea and accept
[41:39] that as a possibility to place that
[41:43] intermediate gate at that strategic
[41:45] place.
[41:46] >> And you're saying put the intermediate
[41:47] gate rather than going down into Devil's
[41:50] uh Devil's Gate area would be going
[41:52] continuing up into Willard Peak.
[41:53] Correct.
[41:54] >> I'm proposing that the gate be put on
[41:56] the Willard Peak Road to inhibit passage
[41:58] to the upper portion of the Willard Peak
[42:00] Road, but yet allow passage to the the
[42:02] Devil's Gate land owners. Yeah.
[42:05] If you travel that road and you look at
[42:07] it, it it's an it's an logical spot in
[42:11] that it's landlocked on each side. It
[42:13] would the the terrain creates a natural
[42:16] barrier for passage around the gate. So,
[42:19] I think it would be easily monitored and
[42:21] I think it would be able to be uh
[42:24] enforced the closure rather than having
[42:26] vehicles go around. It's really a
[42:30] natural spot for the for the train to
[42:31] put the gate there, allowing then once
[42:34] again restricting that upper passage for
[42:36] safety purposes, which I understand, but
[42:38] yet allowing private owners to access
[42:40] the lower portions that are melded off
[42:42] and safely passable.
[42:44] >> Okay. So, when you say there is a
[42:46] natural place to put it, I haven't seen
[42:48] a place anywhere where somebody can't go
[42:49] over with a motorbike or side by side.
[42:52] Everywhere I go anyway, people just said
[42:55] a white rock, didn't you, Todd? That's
[42:57] correct.
[42:57] >> Yeah.
[42:58] There is there's there's I mean if
[42:59] you up there where he's talking about if
[43:01] we go just past where the white rock is
[43:03] and you put a gate and I don't know what
[43:04] we'd have I that's Darren but
[43:07] >> depending what Forest Service where our roadway can do this is but if you
[43:11] put one there they have two choices. One
[43:13] they can go off the cliff and down the
[43:14] side of the mountain.
[43:15] >> Yeah. Straight down.
[43:16] >> They have to go up into they they would
[43:17] have to go into scrub oak.
[43:19] >> Yeah. And it's and that road up the
[43:21] [clears throat] hillsides. So if you put
[43:22] the gate in a certain spot it would be
[43:24] very difficult. But I'm just curious if
[43:26] we put a gate in, could we put it in
[43:28] where it would be far enough off the
[43:30] road so that when the season is open, it
[43:32] would be accessible to go back and forth
[43:34] >> so you don't have to move the road every
[43:35] year or remove the gate. Is it going to
[43:38] be able to go back far enough that we're
[43:39] not going to have
[43:40] >> people hitting it
[43:42] >> going up as when they go by it? That's
[43:44] that would be my concern
[43:46] >> and I'd want to consult with with our
[43:48] roads department to find out. And I
[43:50] don't know is I'm assuming we're now in
[43:52] National Forest Service area at that
[43:54] point on that roadway and and I think
[43:56] we'd have to get the National Forest
[43:57] Service to give us permission. Is that
[43:59] correct? And Darren's nodding his head
[44:00] correctly. So
[44:02] >> I'm I'm happy to exp I would be happy to
[44:03] explore that. I think we have that issue
[44:05] come up every year,
[44:06] >> but I think we can ask we'll ask our
[44:08] roads department to go back to the
[44:10] Forest Service and ask them if they
[44:12] would be amanable.
[44:13] >> Again, it's going to be their call
[44:14] because it's their land whether they're
[44:16] going to let us do this or not. But I
[44:18] something something worth asking.
[44:19] >> And I agree, Commissioner Prey. I
[44:20] believe it is National Forest because
[44:22] they if it's my understanding that they
[44:24] have control of the gate on the on the
[44:27] um Devil's Gate road.
[44:29] >> Yeah. Right.
[44:29] >> So they would as well have to have buy
[44:31] in and have some um authorization to
[44:35] control that road.
[44:36] >> That's we can explore.
[44:37] >> I'm I'm willing to ask our our roads
[44:39] department to go and meet with them and ask and get see if we can we get
[44:43] permission. And I mean I
[44:43] >> and I'm I'm certainly willing to make
[44:45] myself accessible to the excuse me if
[44:48] you'd like to ride up there and visit
[44:49] evaluate the site together. I welcome
[44:52] you and I extend that invitation to the
[44:54] commissioners. Let's let's get organized
[44:55] and visit the site.
[44:56] >> I can I can see where I put a I could
[44:57] put a gate there. I put a gate but yeah
[45:00] >> but it is landlocked. Yeah.
[45:02] >> Or the natural barriers on each side
[45:04] obviously commission.
[45:05] >> You might get somebody creating you can
[45:07] get anywhere you want if you're
[45:08] determined to get there.
[45:09] >> Yes. But those
[45:10] >> they're not going to do it without
[45:11] damaging person or vehicle. I guarantee
[45:13] you.
[45:14] >> I I think deterrence is is the issue
[45:16] here.
[45:17] >> Just don't plant a Russian olive tree on
[45:18] this side so that they can
[45:19] >> and and um I echo the I echo the request
[45:24] of Mr. Warner that if in fact we're
[45:26] going to go ahead and lock the gate at
[45:28] Manowway that we as land owners have
[45:30] access to a key as well to continue to
[45:32] when the road is safely passable to
[45:34] continue works at our property there. So
[45:36] thank you for your time. Okay.
[45:37] >> Thank you.
[45:43] Do we need to make a decision tonight on
[45:44] this?
[45:45] >> Okay.
[45:47] >> Can we There's no further discussion. I
[45:51] need a motion to close public hearing.
[45:53] >> I'll make a motion to close public
[45:54] hearing on road season road closures.
[45:56] >> Second.
[45:57] >> Have a motion by Commissioner Perry to
[45:59] close the public hearing and a second by
[46:01] Commissioner Breen. All in favor say I.
[46:03] >> I.
[46:04] >> Public hearing is closed.
[46:06] >> Okay. And so we'll be able to come back
[46:08] at a future commission and make a
[46:10] decision on this. We won't need to make
[46:11] a decision today. We can maybe I'll give
[46:13] Darren direction to go back and let's
[46:15] meet with the Forest Service and see if
[46:16] we can get some of these questions
[46:17] answered before we make that final
[46:18] determination.
[46:21] >> So, is that
[46:27] >> is there an ordinance?
[46:28] >> Yeah, there yeah, there's an ordinance.
[46:29] >> So, yeah, I' I'd make a motion that we
[46:31] table the ordinance to a future meeting
[46:33] so that we can find out from the
[46:35] forester. Before we do that, I'd like to
[46:37] find out from the Forest Service if this
[46:39] is an option. So,
[46:41] >> I'm not sure you need to table it. You
[46:42] should pass the ordinance. You can come
[46:43] back in later a minute if you need to.
[46:45] I'd hate to have the ordinance not go
[46:46] into place.
[46:47] >> Okay.
[46:47] >> When we need it.
[46:48] >> You got to come back.
[46:49] >> I don't know if you have any thoughts on
[46:50] that, Glenn, but
[46:52] >> I think you could do either way, but I I
[46:54] think it would be ill advised to build
[46:59] up the entire ordinance based on one of
[47:01] the roads having an issue. There are
[47:03] seven that need to be roller you could
[47:05] pass it.
[47:06] >> So if we pass it with the with the
[47:07] knowledge that we're going to come back
[47:09] to look at possibly amending it in the
[47:10] next Okay.
[47:13] >> I I can accept that. Yeah. So okay, I
[47:16] would I would make a motion then that we
[47:18] pass seasonal road closure ordinance 658
[47:20] with the knowledge that we plan on
[47:22] coming back to possibly make an
[47:23] amendment for that one road.
[47:25] >> Second. We have a motion by Commissioner
[47:27] Perry to approve road closure ordinance
[47:29] number 658
[47:32] uh for winter uh with the agreement that
[47:35] we will come back possibly to discuss um
[47:39] to some changes to the ordinance and a
[47:41] second by Commissioner Bingham. All in
[47:43] favor?
[47:44] >> I.
[47:44] >> Motion passes. Thank you.
[47:49] Okay,
[47:51] we're out our public comment period of
[47:53] uh our meeting. Those who wishing to
[47:56] make public comment shall sign the
[47:58] comment role and will be responsible for
[48:00] the following rules outlined in the
[48:02] county commission rules and procedures.
[48:04] Speakers will have one threeminut
[48:06] opportunity to speak regardless of
[48:08] number of items they wish to address.
[48:10] Speakers shall address or rem address their comments to the county
[48:14] commission only. This is a time to be
[48:16] heard. There will not be a back and
[48:17] forth dialogue with the commissioners.
[48:19] Speakers may file copies of their
[48:21] remarks or supporting information with
[48:24] the county clerk. The county clerk will
[48:26] make the information available to the
[48:28] county commission. And we have one
[48:31] tonight and it's Deanna Hardy.
[48:44] Diana Hardy Bigham. The Boxella
[48:47] Committee of Liberty opposes the zoning
[48:49] of all Boxeller County because it's not
[48:52] constitutionally principled. The only
[48:54] time zoning is required is when a land
[48:56] owner is doing something immoral or
[48:58] dangerous or both that will harm another
[49:00] property owner. When Melanie Melanie
[49:03] Wilding of the Planning Commission came
[49:05] before you stating that the planning
[49:06] commission's hands are tied because all
[49:09] the land in Boxeller County is not
[49:11] zoned. Why should the planning
[49:13] commission have arbitrary power over
[49:15] property owners in telling them what
[49:16] they can and cannot do with their
[49:18] property? The planning commission is
[49:20] just another quasi government program
[49:22] operated by appointed board members
[49:25] which goes against our republic form of
[49:26] government. Elected representatives have
[49:29] jurisdiction over zoning and not an
[49:31] appointed quasi government board.
[49:34] Central planning is a Marxist ideology
[49:36] and not constitutionally principled. The
[49:39] US Constitution article 4 section 4
[49:41] states the United States shall guarantee
[49:43] to every state in the this union a
[49:45] republic republican form of government
[49:48] and shall protect each of them against
[49:50] invasion. Are you protecting our
[49:52] government from the invasion of Marxism?
[49:55] How about socialism, communism? It is an
[49:58] invasion to adopt central planning and
[50:00] zoning all landowners property. The only
[50:03] exceptions are listed above. James
[50:05] Madison comments on property. This term
[50:08] in particular application means that
[50:10] dominion which one man claims and
[50:12] exercises over the external things of
[50:14] the world in exclusion of every other
[50:17] individual. Central planning is based on
[50:20] community planning and destroying
[50:22] individuals planning. Government is
[50:25] instituted to protect property of every
[50:27] sort as well that which lies in the
[50:29] various rights of individuals as the as
[50:32] that which the term particularly
[50:33] expresses. This being the end of
[50:35] government that alone is opinions, their
[50:38] religion, their persons and their
[50:40] faculties, name more which indirectly
[50:42] violates their property in their actual
[50:45] possessions. In the labor that acquires
[50:47] their dailies assistance, and in the
[50:49] hallowed remnant of time which ought to
[50:51] relieve their fatigues and soo their
[50:52] cares, the influence or inference will
[50:55] have been anticipated that such
[50:57] government is not a pattern for the
[50:59] United States. If the United States
[51:01] means to obtain or deserve full praise
[51:04] due to wise and just governments, they
[51:06] will equally respect the rights of
[51:08] property and the property in rights.
[51:11] They will rival the government that most
[51:13] sacredly guards the former and repealing
[51:16] its example in violating the latter will
[51:18] make themselves a pattern to that and
[51:20] all other governments. And it's really
[51:22] sad you just violate other people's
[51:23] property rights just today with your
[51:25] decision. Thank you.
[51:30] » Okay.
[51:33] A warrant register is done.
[51:36] Personal actions volunteer action forms.
[51:40] Jennica, how are you?
[51:47] » We don't have a close session, do we,
[51:48] Steve? Okay.
[52:25] >> Okay. Very good. We don't have a closed
[52:27] session, so I need a motion to close the
[52:28] meeting.
[52:29] >> I'll make a motion we adjourn.
[52:31] >> Second. Have a motion adjourned by
[52:33] Commissioner Perry or Commissioner
[52:34] Bingham and a second by Commissioner
[52:36] Perry. All in favor say I.
[52:38] >> I.
[52:38] >> Very good. We're journ till the next
[52:40] session. Thank you so much for being
[52:41] here with us.
[52:45] Okay.