[35:30] Yes.
[35:54] sense
[36:05] here. Oh, thanks. Sorry.
[36:30] Secret
[36:36] Jason.
[36:59] Hey, it's 7:00. I hereby call the
Tuesday, September 8th, 2025 meeting of
[37:05] the commission to order. We stand for
the flag of
[37:11] the flag of the United States of America
and to the republic for which it stands.
[37:18] One nation under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all.
[37:30] » Thank you. Our mayor has a previous
engagement this evening.
[37:36] Um clerk will conduct the roll call
please.
[37:40] » Holtz
>> here.
[37:42] » Hower
>> here
[37:48] » form present.
[37:51] » Thank you. Uh moving on to approval of
the agenda.
[37:57] Are there any changes to the agenda?
I I move to move um under new business
[38:04] 10A to um
under in between the city manager report
[38:10] and correspond as there are people who
would like to be here to support and
[38:13] that need to get back on shift. So we
can move that up.
[38:18] » Okay. Is there a second? Second.
[38:22] Um any discussion?
Roll call, please.
[38:28] » How was there? I a
>> Hampton.
[38:32] [laughter]
>> Sorry.
[38:34] » I
>> I
[38:37] » The motion carries.
[38:40] » All right. Moving on to the consent
agenda. The purpose of the consent
[38:45] agenda is to expedite business by
grouping non-controversial items
[38:49] together to be dealt with by one
commission motion without discussion.
[38:53] Any member of the commission, staff, or
the public may ask that any item on the
[38:58] consent agenda be removed and placed as
the last item under new business to
[39:03] receive full discussion. Such requests
will be automatically respected.
[39:10] Is there a motion to approve the consent
agenda?
[39:13] » So moved.
>> Second.
[39:18] Is there any
conversation? Any comments from the
[39:23] public?
[39:28] Roll call, please.
>> Hampton,
[39:31] » I.
>> Place
[39:33] » I.
>> Boltz.
[39:34] » I.
>> Hower.
[39:36] » I.
>> Motion carries.
[39:40] » All right. Moving on to public comment.
Any person may comment on any subject.
[39:48] Comments are limited to five minutes and
when the and the clerk will provide a 30
[39:52] second warning when your time is nearing
an end. The commission will not engage
[39:57] in debate at this time and written
comments on the form provided
[40:03] over there will be responded to by the
staff.
[40:09] Would anyone from the public like to
come? Welcome to the podium. Please
[40:15] state your name.
>> Thank you.
[40:18] [clears throat]
>> George Lasser 601 South Lake Street in
[40:20] Boone City. I wanted to uh talk to you
guys about the railroad water tower on
[40:26] Ray Street between Lake and Park. I'm
sure most of us are familiar with that.
[40:32] Uh it's [clears throat] coming to our
attention that there is a movement to
[40:36] have that uh demolished and uh Mr.
Gajeski [clears throat]
[40:42] and myself and uh some other people have
uh put together a group who are willing
[40:47] to fix it and uh restore it to uh keep
it in its place. There's also been talk
[40:54] of um moving it someplace else to
refurbish it. We don't think it could
[41:00] survive and move. It's it's uh it's
pretty old. And um we have uh been in
[41:07] talks. We talked to Stigs. Stigs is
willing to do a fundraiser to help with
[41:12] paint and supplies that are needed. Uh
we have uh volunteers, Mr. Kajeski,
[41:16] myself, and several others who are
willing to do the work. Uh the uh I have
[41:21] a a blacksmith I contact the named Steve
Anderson who's willing to rebuild the uh
[41:26] the the the water spout
to more uh accurate uh depiction of what
[41:32] it it should be. Uh and also the uh the
luggage cart that sits next to it. Uh
[41:39] we're also uh willing to uh repaint that
and put new uh uh boards on it to make
[41:47] it structurally sound and and pleasing
to the eye. Uh it's all volunteer based.
[41:52] Uh won't cost the city anything. Uh
again, uh we're just asking that that it
[41:58] u be considered uh rather than tearing
it down or trying to move it someplace
[42:03] is to fix it where it's at, fix both of
them where they're at and landscape
[42:07] around them with some gravel and some
edging to make them very pleasing to the
[42:11] eye. Um and Mr. Kajeski and I have also
talked about too as far as the color
[42:16] goes, uh the the people that own the
building, the old uh Lester's building,
[42:22] names escaping me, excuse me. uh if they
had a particular
[42:27] color that they would prefer that it be
since it's kind of right in their front
[42:30] yard. Uh we'd be willing to, you know,
talk to them about that and maybe make
[42:34] it a color that they would like. Uh
again, um all volunteer base won't cost
[42:39] the city anything. Uh we realize it's a
project. It it does need a lot of work,
[42:43] but it's worth saving. Uh those of us in
my generation were fortunate enough to
[42:48] have a class in high school. Maybe Mr.
place that had that uh with Bo City
[42:53] history and uh that class really taught
us to appreciate our history. Our
[42:59] history is is quickly disappearing. Uh
where we came from, how this town was
[43:04] built, and it's a shame. Uh we need to
preserve that history. It's it's what
[43:09] makes Bo City what it is. It was built
by people that worked hard and and ran
[43:14] the railroads and, you know, moved
lumber. That's something we want to
[43:17] preserve. Something we feel very
strongly about. Again, we we're asking
[43:21] that uh this I'm asking this be put on
the uh on the agenda for public
[43:26] discussion with the uh the board uh
before any decisions are made to tear it
[43:31] down or to move forward with that. Um
and that's what I have. And I think Mr.
[43:38] Keski wants to fill in some blanks.
Okay.
[43:41] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[43:45] Thank you for letting me have a little
bit of time. And this all what George's
[43:50] really we're talking about here is
cultural heritage. And I'd like to just
[43:54] talk a little bit on that. Um
and c cultural heritage which I'm going
[43:59] to call ch for our discussion today.
It's a continuum of traditions and
[44:04] practices passed down through the
generations and encapsulates the essence
[44:08] of a society's collective memory.
It refers to the legacy of physical
[44:14] artifacts and intangible attributes of a
group or society that are inherited from
[44:20] past generations,
maintained in the present and bestowed
[44:26] for the benefit of future generations.
Tangible CH includes buildings,
[44:32] historical places, monuments, in our
case, artifacts which are considered
[44:37] worthy of preservation for the future.
These are physical artifacts
[44:44] that were created, maintained or left
over by the cultures and local citizens
[44:49] and pioneers of our community.
Before I go any further though, I need
[44:54] to delineate and distinguish between the
two parts of CH management. One of CH is
[44:59] preservation and the other CH
conservation. On one hand, CH
[45:04] conservation
more focused on the physical repair of a
[45:08] tangible artifact. In this case, a water
tower to restore it to a known or
[45:14] assumed state while retaining its
heritage value, reinforcing and the
[45:20] enduring preservation of its inherent
value.
[45:24] Conservation includes both the
preservation of the wood exterior and
[45:30] stabilization from further
deterioration. [clears throat]
[45:34] On the other hand, CA preservation
generally generally refers to the
[45:37] protection, maintenance, and recovery of
cultural heritage without altering it
[45:42] ensure survival for future generations.
It's like throwing a tarp over it, put
[45:46] off to the side. So the question, who
benefits from conserving and preserving
[45:51] cultural heritage? Firstly, it is
paramount to indicate that although CH
[45:57] should be the pride of the host city, Bo
City, but not all conservation or
[46:03] preservation measures seem to benefit
certain members of the community.
[46:07] Secondly,
there is a pretext for concealed
[46:11] agendas. So, there is a need to
scrutinize the political and social
[46:16] dimensions of heritage preservation.
We have very few tangible things, like
[46:21] George said, we have very few tangible
things left in our community of
[46:26] historical significance remaining to
remind us of what our pioneers gave to
[46:31] this community to pass it on to present
time and future community members and
[46:37] visitors.
I I don't understand the objection of
[46:42] what we're what we're offering which is
as George said at no cost to the city
[46:48] volunteers
uh help with the with stigs and co-op
[46:54] all free. Subsequently, we must all
advocate for preservation practices that
[47:00] reflect and respond to the complexities
of cultural heritage and its various
[47:06] stakeholders. everybody here and
everybody in our community, our
[47:09] community, even though I live out of
town, sorry. Therefore, care must be
[47:14] taken when choosing the aspects and the
measures. Really think about it, folks.
[47:19] And I'll finish with, please save the
railroad water tower at its current
[47:23] location and allow us to restore it to
the best of our abilities.
[47:28] Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[47:32] Anyone else with public comment?
[47:39] Good evening, Tracy at 80 Tracy Griffin,
805 Earl Street. For months, many of us
[47:47] have come before you to discuss the
proposed project on Earl and Morgan. It
[47:52] often feels as though our concerns are
dismissed as simply not in my backyard
[47:56] objections. That is not what many of us
have been saying. We have repeatedly
[48:02] stated that we do not believe that this
is the right location for this
[48:05] development. However, if the project is
going to move forward, we have asked for
[48:09] reasonable accommodations such as a tree
buffer between the development and
[48:14] neighboring homes and relocating the
driveways away from Earl and Morgan
[48:18] Street. [gasps]
Unfortunately, it feels as though only
[48:22] part of our message is being heard. That
is very frustrating for residents who
[48:26] have invested significant time and
effort into participating in this
[48:30] project this process.
As I stressed before the planning
[48:34] commission, while a traffic study may
not be required for this project, one
[48:39] certainly could have been recommended.
Does the city truly believe that adding
[48:43] 18 additional units to a short deadend
street like Earl Street, which is only
[48:48] 2/10 of a mile long, will not create
traffic and safety concerns? While we
[48:54] speak, we have spoken with multiple
local law enforcement
[48:59] who share concerns about the impact this
development could have on the traffic in
[49:02] this area. From a resident's
perspective, it often appears that
[49:08] projects are being approved with little
consideration for their long-term
[49:12] effects on surrounding neighborhoods.
We are asking you to think beyond
[49:17] [clears throat] the immediate approval
process and consider how these decisions
[49:22] will impact existing residents, property
owners, traffic flow, and the
[49:29] characteristic of the community for
years to come.
[49:32] Many residents
are also concerned about the long-term
[49:36] maintenance of housing commission
projects based on what they have
[49:40] observed elsewhere. Whether those
concerns are ultimately right or wrong,
[49:44] they are genuine concerns that deserve
consideration rather than dismissal.
[49:50] Many of us have tried to put ourselves
in your position
[49:55] to um and I ask that you do the same for
us. If a project of this size were being
[50:01] proposed directly across the street from
your home, would you truly have no
[50:04] concerns? Would you not ask questions
about traffic, safety, noise, property
[50:09] values, or how it might affect your
neighborhood?
[50:14] I believe many of you would have
concerns just as we do. To suggest that
[50:19] you would not care at all is simply not
a realistic statement. We are not asking
[50:23] for special treatment. We are asking for
the same consideration and understanding
[50:27] that any homeowner would want if faced
with the development of this scale
[50:32] directly across from where they live.
What is most disappointing is the
[50:37] feeling that the voices of taxpaying
residents are not being valued. We chose
[50:42] to move to Boone City because we love
the community and we're excited to be
[50:45] part of it. We believed that this was a
place where residents opinions mattered
[50:49] and where local government would
thoroughly consider the concerns of the
[50:54] people who live here. Today, many of us
no longer feel that way. I urge you to
[50:58] listen, not just hear. Listen to the
concerns being raised.
[51:03] Consider [clears throat] reasonable
compromises and remember that the
[51:06] residents speaking before you tonight
are not your oppos your opponents. We
[51:11] are your neighbors, your constituents,
and the people who care deeply about the
[51:15] future of this community.
>> Thank you. Anyone else with public
[51:20] comment?
[51:24] » Anyone online?
[51:30] » Yes. Hi. Um, my name is CJ Biggs and I'm
an attorney with Rogers in Traverse
[51:35] City. I'm speaking today on behalf of
concerned members of the Boone City
[51:40] community regarding the proposed
concurrence for the Flats on Court
[51:45] Brownfield development plan. So, I do
recognize that this pertains to an
[51:50] agenda item later. So, if there will be
comment at that time, I will yield until
[51:54] then. Otherwise, um, I can continue.
So, some members of the Boone City Commi
[52:00] community feel that this uh proposed
brownfield development concurrence is
[52:06] not ready for approval because of still
outstanding and unresolved requirements
[52:10] of the Boone City zoning ordinance that
have not been met and adequately
[52:15] addressed. The primary issue is building
height. We sent a letter on August 12th
[52:21] to the planning commission detailing
this issue. Uh but I will go over the
[52:25] the basics of it here. Um as it stands
now, the height of the development is
[52:30] currently not clear, but our best
estimate is that the structures exceed
[52:34] at least 39.625
ft. The ordinance sets a maximum height
[52:39] of 35 ft pursuant to section 20.10,
which is noted by the developers site
[52:47] plan in the general notes zoning of
property section on the plan. The
[52:52] definition of building height in the
zoning ordinance is the vertical
[52:56] distance measured from the natural grade
prior to any excavation or construction
[53:00] to the highest point of the surface for
flat roofs to the deck line of Mansford
[53:05] roofs and for our purposes to the mean
height between eaves and ridge for gable
[53:10] hip and gamble roofs. That is a
definition in section 1.40 of the zoning
[53:15] ordinance. So without applying this
average height between the eaves and
[53:20] ridge, the total height appears to be
approximately 44.625
[53:24] ft above grade. I say approximately
because the site plan is measuring from
[53:29] the top of the footing above the
foundation, but the either existing
[53:34] grade or the grade at the time of the
construction. Neither is indicated. As
[53:38] such, whether or not the buildings as
proposed comply with the height
[53:41] requirements of the zoning ordinance is
impossible to determine. Our research of
[53:45] public records does not indicate that
there has been any variance granted to
[53:48] the developer to limit or exclude this
height requirement. But in any case, a
[53:52] variance would not be properly granted
as there is no practical difficulty that
[53:57] can arise from a self-created problem.
So I would ask the planning commission,
[54:01] what evidence do you have that the
building heights are compliant in the
[54:05] plan as it exists today? Similarly,
there is a missing um barrier
[54:12] requirement that is not evidenced in the
plan as it exists now. Pursuant to
[54:16] section 24.80C
of the zoning ordinance, all parking
[54:21] areas in a multiple family residential
district such as the one proposed in
[54:26] Flats on Court that it applies to Flats
on Court. These must be screened from
[54:30] adjacent properties by means of a brick
wall, screen fencing, evergreens, and or
[54:35] other barriers determined suitable by
the planning commission to minimize
[54:39] noise from motor vehicles and to prevent
direct glare of headlights from falling
[54:43] on adjacent properties.
So, the site plans provided thus far
[54:48] make no mention of this required barrier
or graphical depiction of the screening
[54:53] for the length of the lot. Even though
the general notes site layout plan,
[54:58] section three on the brownfield plan is
devoted to the required parking
[55:03] requirements. No mention of it there. So
again, I propose to the planning
[55:08] commission, what evidence do you have
that the development as proposed today
[55:12] satisfies the ordin ordinanc's
requirement for screening in this case?
[55:17] And just as a general question, there is
um some concern by the community that
[55:22] the management of flats on court is
changing and we don't know who is going
[55:27] to be responsible for managing the
buildings. Initial proposal proposals
[55:31] indicated that the owners would be the
managers, but it seems that now a third
[55:35] party is in play and the community would
appreciate some further clarity in this
[55:39] regard. Thank you very much for your
time.
[55:42] » Thank you.
Anyone else public comment online or in
[55:48] person?
>> I think there is.
[56:02] Can you hear me?
>> Yes.
[56:06] » Hi, I'm Ron Cleveringa, 240 East Morgan
Street. Um, my wife and I, Lisa, um,
[56:12] would like to, uh, file our objection to
the, uh, development on Earl and Morgan
[56:20] Street. We feel very strongly that this
development will have a very significant
[56:27] impact on the environment on the
infrastructure of the area and to the
[56:34] character of the neighborhood. This
neighborhood is there. What you're
[56:39] trying to add there is I believe it's 32
housing units that uh well that area
[56:47] just doesn't have the infrastructure
for. Um our our request is that you
[56:53] instruct the Coin City Housing
Commission to stop this immediately and
[56:59] look at alternatives. They have
significant property areas that they
[57:04] want to uh upgrade anyway. So let them
work over there. Um
[57:09] this this is a a neighborhood with a lot
of character and we feel very strongly
[57:15] that it it will uh affect the property
values and the quality of life in that
[57:21] area. Uh my apologies for the uh not
having a video but uh I am driving
[57:29] currently so please forgive me for that.
Thank you so much for your time and I
[57:33] appreciate that uh uh you take this into
consideration. Thank you.
[57:41] » Thank you.
Anyone else?
[57:45] » Oh, yes.
>> I think I'm going to piggyback on his
[57:48] comments if it's the same neighborhood.
Earl and Grant Streets. Is that what
[57:52] he's talking about? Okay. All right. So,
it's it's a continuation of that. So, um
[57:57] I'm Laura Fine. I live at um 523 South
Park Street. Hi everybody. And every
[58:03] single day I take a walk through those
woods between um I guess it's Earl
[58:07] Street towards the senior center. And
this is a first of all this is tree
[58:14] city. This is a tree city in America.
And so we need to honor the fact that
[58:18] it's a tree city. The other thing is we
can do a win-win here. Doesn't have to
[58:22] be win- lose. So we can keep the trees
and we can make the buildings be
[58:27] affordable buildings be in a part of the
parcel that doesn't affect the trees so
[58:32] that people can have the quality of life
of a safe housing of safe housing and
[58:37] also the enjoyment and the oxygen that
comes from the trees. So right now we
[58:42] know we're in a crucial time globally.
We need more trees not less trees and
[58:47] once they're gone they're gone. So, um,
I'm going to support what that gentleman
[58:51] said as well and what many of us feel
very strongly that we can use the parcel
[58:55] wisely and make it so there's housing
and the trees remain and we all can have
[59:01] the enjoyment of that, the the public,
the community, the neighborhood and the
[59:05] newcomers who will be in those housing
in that housing. Thank you so much.
[59:09] » Thank you.
[59:12] Anyone else?
[59:17] Okay. Do the correspondence.
>> Oh, yeah. Correspondence. Yeah.
[59:22] » So, we Let's see the next item. We just
acknowledge we have correspondence. Um
[59:34] there's no action required. So, we will
file correspondence
[59:39] and then we will move on to the item we
brought forth. um from our new business
[59:49] which is
item 10, consent to appointment of chief
[59:54] of police.
[1:00:09] » Do we have a motion?
>> I move to
[1:00:14] Consider the recommendation from Desica
Pearl, city clerk treasurer to consent
[1:00:17] to the city manager's appointment of Dan
Mercer as chief of police for the city
[1:00:21] of Buen City effective October 1st,
2026.
[1:00:25] » Second.
>> Oh, was going to get
[1:00:28] » Okay. Do we have public comment on this
matter?
[1:00:40] » Hello everybody. My name is Tim Wy. I
live at 323 State Street. Um, and I just
[1:00:46] wanted to take a moment uh and mention
uh thank you for moving this up. I here
[1:00:52] on behalf of all of my colleagues here
at the Bo City Police Department. Uh
[1:00:56] wanting to express um you know our our
support uh for uh our assistant chief
[1:01:03] Dan Mercer uh to move on into the chief
of police position. Um
[1:01:09] he's a wonderful family man, a wonderful
community man. um and also quite a
[1:01:14] wonderful law man as well. Uh one of my
former mentors, uh James Craig, who is
[1:01:19] police chief of the city of Detroit,
once said something and it stuck with me
[1:01:23] for a long time. Cops count, but
leadership matters. And the type of
[1:01:28] leadership that Dan's going to provide
our department and a continuation of
[1:01:31] what Chief Spade has done is going to be
fantastic. We have a wonderful police
[1:01:35] department in in a great community. Um
we are just looking forward to this
[1:01:40] succession piece uh taking place. So
thank you so much for moving it up in
[1:01:44] the agenda and your consideration for
Dan Mercer. Thank you.
[1:01:51] » Any other comments?
[1:01:54] » Okay, time for deliberation.
>> Uh Commissioner Hower?
[1:02:00] » Um I am all for this. said, "Dan, um Dan
has done just an incredible job and the
[1:02:05] amount of people who come into Muskrat
on a stroll the streets and show me
[1:02:11] photos that they've taken with our
police department and nine out of 10
[1:02:13] times Dan is in them. um I think is
great and it speaks volumes about our
[1:02:18] community that um they're out there and
engaging with people and I think Dan
[1:02:24] will be a great addition be a great
chief and the succession planning that I
[1:02:28] know he's done with Chief Spate will has
I just think it's a wonderful decision
[1:02:33] and I'm all for it. So
I I approve.
[1:02:38] » Commissioner Place.
>> Um yeah, I'm very excited about this. I
[1:02:42] I've worked uh well I've done a few
things with him. I've seen him in the
[1:02:46] community and I've seen him with a lot.
He's just very community-minded person.
[1:02:51] Um and I'm very excited to see this and
I approve this as well.
[1:03:00] » I appreciate us hiring from within. Um
working a job myself for a long lot of
[1:03:06] years. It's nice to be acknowledged for
the work that you put in. So, I
[1:03:11] appreciate that they took you into
consideration and I think the you know
[1:03:16] how the town runs, you respect the
people that live here and I appreciate
[1:03:21] that. So, I approve
>> and um I participated in the interview
[1:03:26] process and um I was impressed with
Officer Mercer's professionalism,
[1:03:35] leadership, dedication to his
professional development and um I
[1:03:42] appreciate his dare uh program
involvement in schools that's been going
[1:03:47] on for many years. Um,
Officer Mercer has been with our
[1:03:53] department for 20 years and has been
trained um under Chief Spate. And uh I
[1:04:00] have no problems with this. Our role as
a commission is just to give consent
[1:04:04] » to uh what our city manager has done has
made the offer, gone through the
[1:04:11] interview process, and um we're here to
just give our consent and stamp of
[1:04:16] approval. So, thank you.
Thank you. And uh I really appreciate
[1:04:21] this opportunity. Uh when I first moved
here uh Dan was very welcoming and Chief
[1:04:29] Spate I think the first two weeks in job
he says you know I don't know how long
[1:04:33] I'm going to be here. I got a secession
plan and let's discuss it. So we
[1:04:38] discussed it. We worked things out. We
uh discussed possibilities and we made a
[1:04:44] plan. We really support somebody that is
so supportive of the community. I mean,
[1:04:51] Dan has dedicated his last 20 years, if
not more, to this community. Uh, so it
[1:04:58] was a no-brainer. It was an easy uh
choice. Uh, we still went through the
[1:05:02] whole process. uh and um I'm really
firmly behind backing uh the appointment
[1:05:10] u that the chose that I have for Dan as
the new police chief. So, thank you very
[1:05:16] much. Y
>> and we had many letters of support from
[1:05:19] the community and people reached out for
me to encourage uh this position.
[1:05:27] » Very good. Any other com?
>> No.
[1:05:30] » Okay. Roll call, please. Place
>> I
[1:05:34] » Boltz
>> I
[1:05:36] » Hower
>> I
[1:05:37] » Hampton
>> I
[1:05:39] » motion carries.
>> Congratulations.
[1:05:50] » Congratulations.
>> Dan, you got anything to say? [laughter]
[1:05:55] up there.
[1:06:01] » I don't want to take too much of your
time, but I just um want to express my
[1:06:04] gratitude to the commission and the city
administration for your support in me.
[1:06:08] You've trusted entrusted a lot of
responsibility in me and I just want to
[1:06:13] reaffirm to you that I'm committed to uh
keep living up to those expectations.
[1:06:17] So, I'm very grateful for the support of
my family. My wife Aaron and our two
[1:06:21] children are here. um their support
means everything to me and I'm I'm
[1:06:25] thankful for them. I'm also uh thankful
for their families, some here in
[1:06:29] attendance and some watching online and
uh I appreciate them. Uh we have
[1:06:34] established a a tremendous team in the
police department. And I'm honored to
[1:06:39] work alongside them and and be able to
to call them my my friends and
[1:06:42] co-workers. And and lastly, I just want
to thank um Chief Spade. I'm going to
[1:06:46] get choked up. Um his mentorship has
meant a lot to me. he's done a lot to
[1:06:51] make this process um go the way it has
and I appreciate that as as well as our
[1:06:56] former chief Jeff Gaither has has been a
great mentor as well and uh I've got
[1:07:00] some big shoes to fill but I'm just
thankful for the the team we have to to
[1:07:04] do it alongside so thank you very All
[1:07:18] right.
Moving on. Next item on the agenda is
[1:07:22] the city manager report.
[1:07:27] Manager Demo, you have the floor.
>> Thank you very much. Um, we had a
[1:07:32] meeting last week. uh the stakeholders
for the strategic plan. Uh the draft
[1:07:38] survey has been completed. Uh they're
planning to have two big dissemination
[1:07:43] events uh to do the survey. One's going
to be at the harvest fest September 26th
[1:07:49] and homecoming on October 2nd. Uh there
will also be a community engagement
[1:07:54] dropin event. Uh the site has been
changed to right here in this building.
[1:08:00] uh we were not able to get the pavilion.
So, it'll be here on October the 6th. Uh
[1:08:06] there will be surveys, paper surveys
across the whole community, be online.
[1:08:11] We'll have paper surveys available at
the office and we're going to have QR
[1:08:16] codes across so people can scan and
we're really pushing for as many people
[1:08:21] to participate in the survey as
possible.
[1:08:24] Uh as we just witnessed, uh we had the
police chief interviews. uh we completed
[1:08:29] those and uh we're very happy for moving
along in that process.
[1:08:35] Uh the cyber security we're still
working on a few adjustments on the
[1:08:39] onboarding uh each week we're getting
closer and closer. We were hoping it
[1:08:44] would not take quite as long but uh
we're very confident that once this is
[1:08:48] all done uh we'll be very protected and
our uh ability to upgrades and our work
[1:08:54] system is going to be great. Um, there
is an EMS blood drive Friday, September
[1:09:02] 18th,
uh, here in this building downstairs at
[1:09:06] 11:00 a.m. to 3:30.
[1:09:09] Uh, as most people are aware in the
public works department, uh, on August
[1:09:14] 28th, the surf internet uh, hit one of
our main uh, water lines. The city water
[1:09:20] pressure dropped dramatically during
that time. Uh it took us a little while,
[1:09:24] but we isolated the main water and was
able to then build the reserves back up
[1:09:29] in the towers. Uh there was seven houses
that were without water until early
[1:09:34] Saturday morning. Uh we we have a
contractor coming in that's going to do
[1:09:40] some more assessment of the road. We did
not open it up yet until we want to make
[1:09:45] sure uh what's underneath of it and
what's safe. uh and Surf Internet is is
[1:09:52] they are the ones responsible for this.
So, they're covering all those costs. Uh
[1:09:56] we did uh act quickly and we had water
available for when people were losing
[1:10:01] water. They didn't have water throughout
the whole town. There's we had pallets
[1:10:05] of water that's still downstairs.
Uh
[1:10:09] so we should get the road back open uh
soon after we find out how much work
[1:10:14] needs to be done and the subs soil under
the sub construction below the the road.
[1:10:21] Uh we had a walkth through process with
our restoration project and we brought
[1:10:26] in surf internet and u the other
contractor together and they basically
[1:10:32] agreed to redo a lot of the restoration
work on the grasses along people's
[1:10:36] driveways along the roads. Uh so they
will be continually work on that
[1:10:42] project. They're going to reed most of
the everything that they receded before.
[1:10:47] Uh so we're hoping that this time it
takes we get some good rain and
[1:10:51] everything takes place. Uh on Call
Street, the first layer of all asphalt
[1:10:57] has been laid uh and we had some rains
and at the during both of those rains,
[1:11:04] no water ended up at the very bottom. Uh
all diversions into the catchment areas
[1:11:10] worked and it drained out quite well. Uh
there's 12 spillways along the road uh
[1:11:16] that the water went into the
infiltration camps and then they were it
[1:11:21] just drained away. So we have great uh
hopes. The next layer of asphalt will be
[1:11:28] I believe it's this week or next week. I
know it was going to be after Labor Day
[1:11:33] when they're going to come in and lay
the second layer. So that project is
[1:11:37] moving forward.
uh parks and marina,
[1:11:42] the veterans park playground here will
be closed on September 14th uh so we can
[1:11:47] get the uh improvements. We're trying to
get those all done uh before harvest.
[1:11:55] So that's the goal. Uh we will be
bringing in stuff and moving and it'll
[1:12:00] be just completely closed uh to the
public after September 14th. Uh Main
[1:12:05] Street voted to assist Veterans
Playground. They're going to be helping
[1:12:08] uh pay for some of those changes uh cost
in that improvements.
[1:12:16] On this Thursday, September 10th, Becken
Raider, Inc. will conduct a
[1:12:21] pre-construction meeting for Avalanche
Pro preserve erosion control project.
[1:12:27] And the Marina Group did meet on
September the 2nd and discuss the
[1:12:32] drafted bylaws. The next group meeting
is going to be scheduled for September
[1:12:36] the 18th.
Uh 14th through the 18th. The date has
[1:12:41] not been determined. Uh we went through
all the bylaws and got a rough draft. We
[1:12:45] got some changes and we've sent those on
to the attorney and we sent everything
[1:12:48] on to the committee members and other
people that were interested that
[1:12:52] attended the uh Marina workg groupoups.
Uh lastly, I would like to uh this this
[1:13:01] month's staff recommendation is very
short. Uh we only have one makeup uh and
[1:13:06] that's for Eric Kokoski. Uh he's with
the water department. He's been with the
[1:13:10] city for 19 years. So he gets the
10-year recognition and then next time
[1:13:16] he gets the 20 years. So um any
questions?
[1:13:22] » Yes.
>> So do you want to
[1:13:26] Um, so Sam, uh, when you did the
walkthrough, was that also with C2 AE or
[1:13:32] was that just It was
>> So we had the engineers in both of the
[1:13:36] contractors all together.
>> Okay. Um, and they were able cuz it just
[1:13:41] sounds like they're just willing to
recede. Wasn't there other things that
[1:13:44] they had to look?
>> There's other things on the list that
[1:13:46] they're still working on.
>> Okay.
[1:13:47] » They haven't done the asphalt work and
that's all going to be done when they do
[1:13:52] the other street. We had some more
streets that had to come in and add some
[1:13:55] asphalts. So that'll all be done at the
same time. Uh it was important for there
[1:14:02] was also the surf was working in the
same area so we had both contractors so
[1:14:07] we they could designate who was going to
be responsible for the restoration work
[1:14:12] at each area.
>> Okay.
[1:14:15] » All right. And like you said, surf's
going to be putting the bill for the
[1:14:19] » Yes. fixing what water man is and things
like that. Okay. Awesome. Um, do we have
[1:14:23] a date for when the mulch is going to be
removed from the park? Um, and is it
[1:14:28] going to be community?
Is it going to be community?
[1:14:32] » So, it will not be community. We got uh
Rainy, you can go ahead and we'll let
[1:14:38] Josh is here so he can
>> uh so yes um so we'll start the uh
[1:14:42] ground remediation uh the week of the
14th. Uh once that's complete then we'll
[1:14:48] be applying the sealant to all the wood
surfaces. Uh that's that has a 48 hour
[1:14:53] cure. So once it's all been put on um
we'll have to wait that 48 hours. And
[1:14:58] then the um engineered fiber wood uh is
being delivered on around the 24th and
[1:15:04] it will be installed uh by DPW staff and
um volunteer support uh through Lee
[1:15:10] Rainey. Um at this time we're we're not
asking for further public support unless
[1:15:15] it gets to the point where we we need
it. So, more to follow on that, but
[1:15:20] right now all the all the labor is being
done uh by DPW staff andor volunteer Lee
[1:15:28] Rain's
landscape.
[1:15:30] » Y removal of it, it's it was a liability
issue. Okay. If they're bringing in
[1:15:34] their equipment, they did not want to
have liability of people around that
[1:15:39] could get injured.
>> Makes sense.
[1:15:40] » And they're bringing in their full staff
uh to clean it all out. And we said,
[1:15:45] "Hey."
>> Awesome. Okay. Yep. Um,
[1:15:51] I think that was my only my only few
questions. Yeah.
[1:15:55] » Okay. Um, as far as Call Street goes,
what what's going on with the um
[1:16:01] easement and the
cliff with the erosion?
[1:16:06] » So, the erosion, if if you drive up
there, it's uh very very green. the all
[1:16:12] the grass they've added uh the waddles
which are those uh straw.
[1:16:18] » Did they use the straw or the bio?
>> They use the straw and it is growing and
[1:16:24] everything's taken very very good.
>> Okay.
[1:16:28] » So, uh it's I think commissioner you've
been up there and seen how green it is.
[1:16:34] » Yes.
>> Mhm.
[1:16:35] » I haven't been out there since they
added the waddles. Um, but it's it's
[1:16:40] definitely growing and this rain has
definitely helped.
[1:16:44] » So, they got both sides.
>> Uh, there was uh last meeting there was
[1:16:48] concerns by a citizen and I sent him all
of the easement drawings for that area
[1:16:54] and also the state statute for the water
wells.
[1:16:58] » Okay.
>> So, I sent all that information.
[1:17:00] » The water wells were looked into though
and they're not too close. Yeah, by the
[1:17:04] state it needs to be 10 ft for uh
rainwater and stuff
[1:17:08] » away from
uh a water well and it's about 20 some
[1:17:13] feet.
>> Okay.
[1:17:16] » Thank you,
>> Commissioner Hley. Um, I just had some
[1:17:20] concerns about the surf and internet
repairs on those, like where they've
[1:17:25] pushed the road up cuz like plowing is
my biggest concern, especially because
[1:17:30] it's like a few of them are on Lincoln
and Lewis, which are roads we literally
[1:17:34] just paved and had taken care of. And if
you know the plows around here, they
[1:17:40] scrape that road. And I have a I just
don't you know working across the street
[1:17:46] over there I watched the road get tore
up with just potholes that were there.
[1:17:51] So I can imagine a bump that helps rip
the road out.
[1:17:56] » They they were waiting kind of to
they're going to hire a subcontractor to
[1:18:00] come in and fix all of those all at
once.
[1:18:02] » Okay.
>> So they didn't want to do it in peace
[1:18:03] mill because then it costs a lot more
money for them. Uh but we we are pushing
[1:18:08] we're sure that it should be done before
winter.
[1:18:10] » Yeah.
All of those areas have to be repaired.
[1:18:13] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[1:18:15] » And then also contact with the call
street residents. Have we
[1:18:20] uh worked out with them their concerns?
Is there any more issues that we should
[1:18:25] be that we should know about or
>> They haven't replied back to me.
[1:18:31] We up on the very top part in the
township side there was some concern
[1:18:36] about the deepness of the pond up there
and we're working through that with the
[1:18:40] engineers and the land land owner there.
>> Okay.
[1:18:44] » Uh but I sent uh the other landowner all
the information uh last week and I
[1:18:50] haven't heard anything back yet.
>> Okay. And that was the questions I had.
[1:18:56] » Okay. My questions have been asked and
answered. So thank you. Thank you so
[1:19:00] much.
>> Thank you.
[1:19:02] » Okay, so moving on to the next item is
unfinished business.
[1:19:09] The brownfield planning. Oh, sorry.
>> The reports of officers and board.
[1:19:14] » Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. Reports of
officers boards and see any committees.
[1:19:19] Are there any
[1:19:23] questions
by the commission?
[1:19:29] Okay, those will be filed.
Okay, now moving on to unfinished
[1:19:34] business. Brownfield plan concurrence
flats on Fort Brownfield plan.
[1:19:42] Um
Sam, would you like to speak to that?
[1:19:46] » Yes. Uh we have uh I'm going to invite
Mac to come up and talk first. Uh he is
[1:19:52] brownfield expert. Uh so he was generous
to come with us tonight. uh to kind of
[1:19:59] explain and and help answer any
questions that you might have. Uh the
[1:20:03] committees um we've had a number of
meetings with it and we've gone back and
[1:20:07] forth. Uh we made a number of
suggestions and the con and uh they have
[1:20:13] agreed to make uh concessions and listen
to what we were asking. So
[1:20:19] » yeah, thank you very much. My name is M.
Mland. Uh I'm the brownfield consultant
[1:20:23] for the Charlotte County Brownfield
Redevelopment Authority. and kind of by
[1:20:26] way of uh for the city of Wayne City as
well as the county. So I've served in
[1:20:30] this role for some time. We did the one
water street project uh in 2009 or so.
[1:20:37] So I've been doing this for a little
while uh in Bo City. We also did the
[1:20:40] Dworth and and Lake Street project uh as
well. So uh and I also worked on some
[1:20:46] other stuff. I did the LDFA development
plan and DDA Main Street development
[1:20:50] plan here. So I have a little bit of
history. I know there's all new faces
[1:20:53] here. So I thought I'd I'd reintroduce
an old one here. So um yeah, you all are
[1:20:59] very familiar with this project. This is
the flight court project uh that's there
[1:21:03] and as part of that project in order to
provide for the workforce housing,
[1:21:07] there's opportunity there to uh have a
brownfield plan which takes the
[1:21:12] increased taxes generated by the
investment and reimbures the the
[1:21:16] financing gap basically between what it
costs to build something and what it
[1:21:20] costs to meet the rents for that. So,
that's really closes that gap. Um, uh,
[1:21:26] WRG came in, uh, with a a proposal for a
25-year plan, 25-y year tiff plan, uh,
[1:21:31] for about $10 million. And as we look,
they provided the financial information
[1:21:35] as we chewed through that a little bit,
had some fun conversations. Um, and, uh,
[1:21:40] they went back to their banks and said
the banks couldn't do it. We said,
[1:21:42] "Well, try again." So, we kind of went
back and forth uh, quite a bit and
[1:21:46] looked at their financing. And um one of
the key aspect aspects aspects that we
[1:21:51] look at is debt service coverage ratio.
They have to have enough revenues after
[1:21:55] their operating cost to have 120% of the
funds to be able to pay their debt
[1:22:00] service. Banks won't finance a project.
And so we looked at all of that kind of
[1:22:03] when does that cut off happen for the
tiff and when can they still meet that.
[1:22:07] So that's what we came up had a lot of
discussions and we're really trying to
[1:22:10] balance the need for the project and to
make sure that the incentives are
[1:22:14] necessary uh for the project. So
throughout that time frame uh you know
[1:22:18] as we looked at all of those pieces uh
came back with a 20-year plan and it
[1:22:23] will be ex only to 20 years if they
don't get those revenues if the taxable
[1:22:28] value doesn't go up high enough or they
don't build out completely or something
[1:22:31] else happens they're limited to 20 years
worth of capture. We estimate that to be
[1:22:35] about $7.9 million over that time
period. um for the um as part of the
[1:22:41] process for the brownfield plan. The
brownfield authority reviews the plan
[1:22:44] and says yes, it's compliant with act
31, the the primary law uh the state law
[1:22:49] that complies with this and has
recommended consideration by the city of
[1:22:53] Wind City uh and the county board of
commissioners, Shalo County Board of
[1:22:56] Commissioners because it's a county
brownfield authority, the location in
[1:23:00] which the project happens has to concur
with the brownfield plan. And that's the
[1:23:03] resolution uh before you tonight there.
The Brownfield Authority did meet on
[1:23:07] September 2nd uh and uh reviewed the
plan uh found that it met AC um act 31
[1:23:13] requirements, provided a public benefit
of providing workforce housing,
[1:23:17] reutilizing public uh assets in in terms
of of providing that housing uh as well
[1:23:22] and increasing the tax base. Um and the
uh the county board uh tomorrow, so I'll
[1:23:29] be back in the area. Um the county board
tomorrow morning is uh uh looking to set
[1:23:35] the public hearing. There's a public
hearing required for this and then
[1:23:38] notices to all the taxing jurisdictions
that the Brownfield uh plan is being
[1:23:42] considered by the county board. They'll
consider that on September 23rd if they
[1:23:46] decide to move forward on that project.
That's the local approval that deals
[1:23:50] with all the local taxes uh that are
available. We have to go back to the
[1:23:55] Michigan State Housing Development
Authority to request state tax capture
[1:23:58] which is pretty significant 45% of the
tax bill with the school oper these are
[1:24:02] rental units so it's school operating
and SET. So that's an important
[1:24:05] component uh of the project to seek
their approval. So before you tonight is
[1:24:09] a a resolution of concurrence as part of
that brownfield plan and I'm happy to
[1:24:13] answer any questions and go into detail
for two hours if you want.
[1:24:18] I'm sure you don't want that
[1:24:23] » questions.
[1:24:27] » Yeah, I I'll make one comment on the
comment for public public comment. The
[1:24:31] the zoning and the brownfield plan are
totally separate. Um the brownfield plan
[1:24:34] doesn't even mention zoning within its
act. Obviously, the project can't be
[1:24:38] built unless it meets zoning
requirements. And so that's a whole
[1:24:41] separate project. if it does if the
project doesn't move forward, the plan
[1:24:44] just sits and there's no real action
that's necessary. So, want to provide
[1:24:49] [clears throat] that response.
>> I have one question. Has um
[1:24:56] » you said you worked on a few other
brownfield projects.
[1:24:59] » Uh any any workforce housing projects in
the county using the brownfield?
[1:25:04] » This is the first in the county.
>> Yep. Yep. I' I've worked on um 12
[1:25:10] projects throughout the state. I
represent a number of authorities
[1:25:12] through Northern Michigan. So worked on
12 different projects that have happened
[1:25:16] through that front. Um from uh actually
Russ common [clears throat] to
[1:25:22] Marquette.
Nice small little territory.
[1:25:26] » All right.
>> Yes. But it is the first for for the
[1:25:28] county in the housing tiff. The law was
changed about three years ago that
[1:25:32] provided for this opportunity to focus
on workforce housing. Prior to that, it
[1:25:36] was limited to environmental activities,
demolition, abatement in some
[1:25:41] communities, site preparation and
infrastructure. So,
[1:25:45] » thanks.
>> Um, we need we need a motion.
[1:25:49] » Yes.
>> Yeah. The public and then and then we
[1:25:52] get to deliberately ask questions.
>> Yes.
[1:25:56] » Okay. [laughter]
>> We have a motion on the table.
[1:26:02] I motion
for the brownfield plan concurrence
[1:26:07] flats on court brownfield plan. Consider
the recommendation for Sam Durmal, city
[1:26:12] manager to adopt the resolution of
concurrence on the flats on court
[1:26:16] brownfield plan developer tax capture
limited to the maximum eligible activity
[1:26:22] amount provided in the brownfield plan
or 20 years whichever occurs first.
[1:26:26] Second.
[1:26:30] Okay. open for this. Do we have any
public comment on the snipper?
[1:26:37] Anyone online?
[1:26:41] » Hey, any questions?
[1:26:45] Yeah,
>> I believe we talked about when uh we
[1:26:51] were talking with the developers, we had
asked about the TIFF and I remember them
[1:26:58] wanting 25 years at first and we talked
them down to 23. So, I'm glad it's down
[1:27:03] to 20 now. Um, it's very interesting and
very complicated and I love learning
[1:27:09] about it. So, I've I'm sure some of us
would love to learn how this works
[1:27:14] outside outside of us sitting in a
meeting, maybe some training on how TIFF
[1:27:18] works and Brownfield works and um yeah,
I found it very interesting and uh I'm
[1:27:25] glad we're finally steps that are moving
forward are amazing right now.
[1:27:33] » Family doesn't
[laughter]
[1:27:36] know all about them.
No,
[1:27:41] » we we opened it to the public and nobody
responded.
[1:27:46] » Oh, sorry. It's public comment this
time.
[1:27:51] » We um there's opportunity for public
comment later on a different agenda
[1:27:56] item. Um
so, time for deliberation.
[1:28:02] Um, Commissioner Hampton,
>> I uh I approve moving forward on this.
[1:28:09] Um, every little step forward is a step
forward.
[1:28:13] » Yeah, appreciate that.
>> You commission in place.
[1:28:18] » Um, yeah, I I approve this. Thank you
for all the hard work on this. Um, I'm
[1:28:22] glad that the Charlotte County
Brownfield Redevelopment Authority uh
[1:28:26] that you guys uh took your time through
it and really went through it and kind
[1:28:30] of went back and forth with them to come
up with them
[1:28:33] the compromise that worked the best
between the two groups, but I agree.
[1:28:36] Yeah, this works.
[1:28:40] » Um, I don't have any questions. Thank
you for explaining everything. That was
[1:28:43] perfect. You answered any question that
I had. Um I like Commissioner Hampton
[1:28:48] said moving forward with this project
any like we want to start working on and
[1:28:53] get get working on this. So any step in
the right direction is what how big or
[1:28:58] small is a step towards the finished
project. So um I really appreciate all
[1:29:02] the time and effort put into this and
uh I approve of this as well.
[1:29:08] » Thank you. And I I also support this. I
think uh
[1:29:13] for this project it the brownfield tiff
is the only financial tool available
[1:29:19] right now because the other state
money is not available to assist and so
[1:29:27] this is a very important piece to make
this happen. Um,
[1:29:34] it's good to hear that you've come to
you've negotiated uh with the developer
[1:29:40] and come to the best possible solution
that's agreeable to all hopefully all
[1:29:45] parties. [laughter]
We still have to bring it to the county.
[1:29:49] Um, and I think, you know, again, it's
important to move this forward. We we
[1:29:54] absolutely need workforce housing. this
is a critical need and uh
[1:30:01] we we must support this. Um and and I
think generally uh generally speaking by
[1:30:07] moving forward on this project as well
as
[1:30:11] you know the other project on our agenda
today is really an affirmation that
[1:30:17] um
regular workingclass folks
[1:30:23] deserve to live in Boone City.
And by approving this we are we are we
[1:30:30] are making that statement and um
so
[1:30:37] I have no further comment. Um Sam, do
you have anything to add?
[1:30:42] » Uh it this has been a learning process.
This is the first time I've had a
[1:30:45] brownfield that was dealing with
housing. Uh it's been a very interesting
[1:30:49] process. Uh and there is a huge need. I
mean, I hear from the business community
[1:30:55] all the time that we have to have uh
housing in Boone City and that there's a
[1:31:01] large percentage of the workforce here
does not live here because they can't
[1:31:06] afford it. Uh a large percentage of our
staff don't live here because it's hard
[1:31:12] to find housing. Uh this is one piece in
the puzzle for our housing needs for the
[1:31:20] community. Uh, so I'm looking forward to
getting that piece put in place and
[1:31:25] working on the other pieces.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:31:30] Okay. Uh, roll call. Jessica
[1:31:35] Boltz
>> I.
[1:31:37] » Hower
>> I.
[1:31:38] » Hampton.
>> I.
[1:31:40] » Place.
>> I.
[1:31:41] » The motion carries.
[1:31:46] » Thank you.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
[1:31:50] Okay,
moving on to new business.
[1:31:56] We have the pilot ordinance amendment
for the housing.
[1:32:03] » Staff, would you like to
>> I would love to. Thank you. [laughter]
[1:32:09] Um, so this is a request from the
housing commission uh for the 0% pilot
[1:32:17] currently as it's written in our code
which is in your packet there. Uh, we
[1:32:22] already have that red line it for
everyone. So it looks nice and pretty
[1:32:26] and I think looks a lot prettier when
you don't have the legal descriptions of
[1:32:30] the exact properties. He kind of really
reduced it down to make it a little more
[1:32:34] digestible. Um, but in essence, uh,
currently the properties that are in
[1:32:41] question that are being added in this,
they're not paying taxes right now
[1:32:44] anyway. So, this is just cleaning
cleaning up the ordinance, getting them
[1:32:49] on the books that the housing
commission, here's the properties, and
[1:32:54] these are the ones that would be in that
pilot program that's in the ordinance
[1:32:57] rather than just kind of peacemeal
around. um they're not paying taxes due
[1:33:02] to a uh and Eric Gold is on the on the
call as well, so he'll be able to go
[1:33:07] into a lot more detail with that, but
currently I think it's a public housing
[1:33:10] entity that they're under that they is
doesn't require that tax, but now that
[1:33:15] they're under the pilot, it's it'll be
in there for quite a long time. So, if
[1:33:19] there's any questions, I'm happy to
answer them.
[1:33:23] » Do we have a motion on Ten First?
[laughter]
[1:33:30] I move to approve the proposed amendment
to chapter 62, article 2, section 62
[1:33:36] through 19 of the Boone City Code of
Ordinances as presented in advance the
[1:33:40] amended ordinance to second reading for
consideration of adoption.
[1:33:45] » I'll second.
>> Okay, any questions? And we also have
[1:33:51] Eric
>> Eric's on the call.
[1:33:53] » He is Hello, Eric.
>> Good evening. Can you hear me?
[1:33:58] » Yes. Yes. Yep.
>> And you're from the RAD
[1:34:01] » RAD development
>> specialist. Yes. Uh co- uh development
[1:34:05] partners with the point city Housing
Commission.
[1:34:08] » Great. Thank you.
>> Yep.
[1:34:12] » Do you have any Do you have any uh thing
you'd like to share with us?
[1:34:17] » Um no. I think that the the amendment uh
clarifies that the pilot would apply to
[1:34:25] any property owned by the housing
commission. So, um in addition to the
[1:34:30] clarifying the the rate of the pilot, it
also um again expands it to include
[1:34:36] property owned by the housing
commission.
[1:34:40] » Yes. Okay.
>> Thank you.
[1:34:45] » Do we have any public comment on this?
[1:34:51] Anyone online with public comment?
No.
[1:34:56] Any any Yes.
>> Yes. You may you may come in and speak.
[1:35:02] » Why don't we?
>> Yes. So that everyone can hear. Yes.
[1:35:05] Yeah.
>> As a relative newcomer to the area, I'm
[1:35:10] slightly confused about which
uh properties or parcels you're talking.
[1:35:15] This is different than the one that the
other gentleman talked about and it's
[1:35:18] also different than the one that I
commented on.
[1:35:22] » No, no,
>> no. It's the same one
[1:35:25] » kind. Yeah,
>> this is more about policy.
[1:35:28] » Yeah, this is Yeah.
>> Okay. I wave my time. [laughter]
[1:35:37] Okay. So, um I did have a question. Um,
so what is this? The Litenberger Manor
[1:35:44] versus is that that is the proposed
>> the proposed project.
[1:35:50] » Yeah.
>> Or the Litenburgger Place.
[1:35:53] » Yeah, that's so they're two separate if
I may. They're two separate. Uh, Liten
[1:35:58] Litenberger Place is the existing 53
unit apartment building. Litenberger
[1:36:03] Manor was a proposed three-story 60 unit
building that we are still trying to
[1:36:09] obtain financing for.
>> Okay.
[1:36:14] Okay. Thank you.
>> Mhm.
[1:36:19] » Okay. Do we we'd like to deliberate
Commissioner Nathan?
[1:36:24] » This is going to cover existing and
current, correct?
[1:36:30] like properties
>> the housing commission. Yes.
[1:36:32] » Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's all the only
question I have
[1:36:38] » and we're deliberating. Would you like
to say the comment further?
[1:36:41] » No.
>> Okay.
[1:36:44] » All right. Um Commissioner H.
>> Um I don't have any questions this time.
[1:36:50] I talked to Zach and he explained some
things to me. Um and yeah, I'm fine with
[1:36:56] this. So, I think we'd move forward a
bit and I like thank you for going
[1:37:00] through all the ordinances and cleaning
things up and um yeah,
[1:37:06] » Commissioner Place.
>> Sure. Um yeah, I know this cleans it up
[1:37:10] for current and future projects uh for
the housing commission. Um the only
[1:37:14] question I have is that is property that
the housing commission owns. What about
[1:37:18] properties that they don't own that
they're working on projects for?
[1:37:25] Do you have an example?
>> I don't know if they
[1:37:28] » I don't think they can.
>> We don't have any. Okay.
[1:37:32] » That's why I'm a deer in the headlights.
I'm a
[1:37:35] » I'm not really sure. Yeah.
>> There there's no projects that I'm aware
[1:37:38] of where the housing commission is
planning to um construct anything that's
[1:37:42] not on their property.
>> Okay.
[1:37:46] Yeah. No, I understand it. It makes it a
little bit more streamlined, especially
[1:37:50] for future projects.
Hey, thank you.
[1:37:54] » Um, I also support this. Um, the pilot
is,
[1:38:00] uh, enables the housing commission to
access financing from the government,
[1:38:06] the state and federal. Putting all of
this in place, having it
[1:38:11] » um,
neat and cleaned up, it makes it much
[1:38:16] easier for the other entities that
housing commission needs to work with.
[1:38:21] they can easily
access our our information and our
[1:38:28] stance
the pilot program and it will enable the
[1:38:33] housing commission to take the next step
and hopefully secure more financing as
[1:38:39] needed for whatever whatever projects
they're doing moving forward
[1:38:43] » all future projects
[1:38:47] » and and I'd like to point out that it in
in it specifically typically includes
[1:38:51] the elderly workforce housing.
That was a new addition and um in
[1:38:58] addition to lowincome
families.
[1:39:05] » All right,
[1:39:10] » roll call. Jessica
[1:39:14] » Hower
>> I.
[1:39:16] » Hampton
>> I.
[1:39:18] » Place
>> I.
[1:39:19] » Bolts. I
>> motion carries.
[1:39:24] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[1:39:27] » Thank you.
>> Thank you, Eric.
[1:39:31] » Okay, moving on to the order.
[1:39:36] » Uh so we have our uh dragon rider block
party on this Friday from 6:00 to 9:00
[1:39:43] downtown. So, it is a book event uh that
is happening on Water Street between
[1:39:49] Park and Lake. The street will be closed
uh for the evening and there's going to
[1:39:54] be a vendor market and street performers
and lots of people dressed up as dragons
[1:40:01] and all sorts of dragon riders. It's a
if you like to nerd out about books, uh
[1:40:06] Friday and Water Street's going to be
your place to be. Uh, we have themed
[1:40:12] cocktails and mocktails and all sorts of
fun things that's based on the book
[1:40:16] series Fourth Wing. So, if you like to
nerd out about books and dragons, be on
[1:40:20] Water Street from 6:00 to 9:00. It'll be
a fun night or 6:00 to 11:00. It'll be a
[1:40:24] really fun night. We have the Lavender
Lions are playing. Um, there'll be a lot
[1:40:29] of fun cosplay and some really big um
people in the book world in the book
[1:40:34] book talk and book world will be there
as well. So, it'll be a fun night. So
[1:40:38] please join us for that. So it is from
6:00 to 11:00 uh on Water Street. So
[1:40:45] music's from 7:00 to 10:00
>> Friday. Sorry, Friday the 11th. So it'll
[1:40:52] be a fun night. So
anyone else?
[1:40:58] » Yes. So
um this is more of just a positive
[1:41:02] message. Um, I have had some uh
conversations the past couple weeks with
[1:41:10] people and I just, this is, it may sound
cliche, but I just want to remind people
[1:41:15] to be kind to each other and make sure
that we're taking information and we're
[1:41:22] discussing it and not talking past one
another. And I think uh just with my
[1:41:29] experience of the past couple weeks, I I
just think everyone needs to have a
[1:41:35] little compassion
for each other's [clears throat] needs.
[1:41:39] That's all I'll say.
>> Commissioner, please.
[1:41:44] » I have nothing to add.
>> And our city manager, how did the drag
[1:41:50] race go? I understand
>> the dragways race was a huge success. Uh
[1:41:54] they said they had more uh there was
over a 100 participants and there was
[1:42:00] the largest door that they had.
>> So uh it was a fun time and everybody
[1:42:06] says they want to do it again next year.
So
[1:42:10] » it's awfully loud and it's very
exciting.
[1:42:13] So there's something going on it seems
every weekend here.
[1:42:17] » Really? We had the car show. We had the
reda.
[1:42:21] » We had the riata. Yeah. finally had the
boat. So,
[1:42:24] » kudos to the city staff for
>> keeping us safe and clean.
[1:42:30] » No, no, keep going. I just I had one
last thing I wanted to one, I'm thrilled
[1:42:36] we've got Dan as our new chief. He's
been nothing but a standup guy to me the
[1:42:40] entire time, which has been really nice.
Not that the rest of staff hasn't, let's
[1:42:44] be clear, [laughter] but Dan's awesome.
Uh the the big announcement I had Aziz
[1:42:49] passed his American Institute of
Certified Planners test on Friday. So
[1:42:54] very very very difficult test and he
passed it on the first try. So
[1:42:57] » Oh
[1:43:02] » awesome. Very good.
>> Anyone else?
[1:43:08] » Okay, so moving on to announcements. The
next regular city commission meeting is
[1:43:12] scheduled for September 22nd
at 12:00 noon.
[1:43:19] » Do we have a motion to a motion to
second?
[1:43:24] » All right. All in favor?
>> I
[1:43:26] » I motion meeting is adjourned.
[1:43:50] You're very welcome.