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Everyone at it being 7:30 on Tuesday,

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September 15, 2026, let's begin our town

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council meeting. Would ask everyone who

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can to please stand for the pledge of

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allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all. ask you to please

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remain standing for our moment of

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silence for all those serving in our

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military at home and abroad and for

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their families.

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» Thank you. I'd ask the clerk to call the

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role, please.

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» Councelor Berica

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>> here.

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>> Councelor Dudi

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>> here. Councelor Flareity

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>> here.

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>> Councelor Meglio

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>> here.

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>> Council Morren

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>> here.

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>> Councelor Quilty

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>> here.

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>> Council Reynolds

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>> here.

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>> Councilor Ringis

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>> here.

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>> Council Sterling

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>> here.

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>> Thank you.

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Um

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we have a lengthy uh agenda this

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evening. Prior to um beginning on that,

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I would ask if there are any

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announcements from council members.

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Chair will um recognize Council

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Reynolds.

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>> Thank you, Mr. President. Uh my

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announcement

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um is somewhat a form of a request as

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well, but it concerns uh a topic that

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will be covered uh in the next agenda

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item uh that is uh part of uh an issue

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in my district. Um and I feel that it's

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necessary that uh comment on the state

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of the current town of Brainreeowned

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drainage easement that runs from the

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White Road vicinity located on the

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northern end of Hawthon Road. Uh and

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then that runs southerntherly direction

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across Home Park Avenue continuing in a

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southerntherly direction behind the

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homes along Hawthon Road through the

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parcel of land formerly known as the St.

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Thomas Moore Church property and where

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it continued to cross. It crosses over

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Old Elm Street between two private

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residential homes and emptying into a

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culvert under the Elm Street extension

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and then into the Manatquit River as it

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was designed. Uh this culvert is

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probably

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70 years old. This drainage ement is

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about 70 years old. It was designed uh

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for much less volume that what has been

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added to it through the years due to

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residential development. Um, bottom line

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is is that I'd like to ask the uh the

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DPW committee to hold a meeting so that

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we can get an assessment from the town

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of Brainree uh as to how we can uh

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address this sement where it has caused

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uh damage to homes uh last summer and

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years prior and has caused decades of

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flooding uh in that area. And with that

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property being converted, uh my concern

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is is that the issue um would not uh be

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in the best interests of private

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homeowners and their properties.

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Thank you, Mr. President.

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>> Thank you, Councelor RS. Are there any

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other announcements? Councelor Qualty.

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>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um there will

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be a meeting to discuss uh resurrecting

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the friends of the senior center on

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Thursday, September 24th from 3:30 to

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4:30. That'll be at the Logan auditorium

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at the the public library and all are

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welcome. Thank you.

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>> Thank you councelor.

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There any other council or vice

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president mag.

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>> Thank you council president Morren. The

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East Branchry Community Action Coalition

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is starting up our meetings again is now

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that fall is here. We took uh August

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off. Um the meeting is to uh Thursday

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night, September 17th at 6:30 p.m. at

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the Brainree Yacht Club on Gordon Road.

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Mayor Joyce will be joining us and it's

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a great opportunity to hear what's

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happening in East Brainree, all of

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Brainree, and to ask questions. So

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hopefully everyone will join us on

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Thursday at 6:30. Thank you.

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» Okay. If there if no one else has any

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announcements, I have two. Um Friday, no

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uh September 18th at 10:00 in this

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auditorium, there'll be a ceremony

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um in recognition of National Prisoner

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of War Missing and Action Recognition

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Day

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uh in Cahill Auditorium. And also there

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is a planned ceremony prior to the

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Briner High School football game at 7

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p.m. at at the alumni field um to

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recognize and uh commemorate the our our

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prison prisoner of wars and missing in

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action. Also um the Brantry Mid-Autumn

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Festival also known as the August Moon

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Festival that was scheduled for this

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weekend was rained out. It is to be

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rescheduled to the um 27th of September

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um same location and I believe it's um

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in the afternoon I believe the hours are

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1 to 4. Um so that will be that has been

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rescheduled and will be held on the

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27th.

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Okay. We now uh will move to the

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approval of minutes uh for the meeting

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of uh June 16, 2026. Is there a motion

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to approve the minutes?

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>> Motion to approve the minutes.

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>> Second.

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>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

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those in favor?

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>> It's unanimous.

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We'll now move to the citizens concerns

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um uh portion of the meeting. Uh this is

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uh Mr. George Clemens or his attorney

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has uh asked for uh time to present. Uh

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he is here. Um this is treated uh under

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rule 35 of the council as as a public

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comment period. It is not um for the

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council to engage in questioning or or

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inquiry at this time since there is

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nothing before the council. I I do not I

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would caution the council from from uh

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any reaction or or interaction

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>> closer to your mic

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>> um because it could it could result in

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an uh open meeting violation. So we will

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uh listen to the presentation as public

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comment. Mr. Clemens.

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» Thank you President Warren. Um,

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[clears throat] thank you councilors for

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allowing me to uh attend the meeting

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this evening. Uh, as you all know,

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George Clemens, developer, Hawthorne

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Preserve. Um,

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I think you've all been copied in the

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emails. I think we all know what's going

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on at the Hawthorne Preserve project.

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Um, we've been working [clears throat]

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for the better part of a year with the

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uh with the current DPW director, the

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mayor's office, and Mike, if you could

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lay those out so that the council can

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see them. We've had an extreme

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challenge, and I'm not sure exactly why

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that is. Um, there is an easement that

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carries about 12 acres of surface runoff

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from a neighbor from neighboring

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properties through our property. Um,

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relocated a portion of the underground

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easement. And so you're a little more

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familiar with it,

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there was a taking in uh 1940, which

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came off of Thorndikeke Street, picks up

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all of the rainwater off of uh this

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neighborhood, Park Street, giant area.

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easement. 1982, they the town took

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another easement. This is an underground

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pipe that feeds into my property.

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that they dump rain water into. 96 they

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took a series of easements so that they

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could bring it out under the old Elm

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Street [snorts] and they did that.

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This was never really, you know, there's

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been historic flooding over in that

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area. So, when we first evaluated this

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property for development, we listened to

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neighbors concerns. We went ahead, we

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looked at this underground section of

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piping. It was fully clogged with

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debris. And when I say debris, we're

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talking large boulders. We're talking

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trees. Um,

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believe it or not, a shopping cart. So

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we found that if we can clean the sement

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that would become a better situation. We

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went ahead and we did that. We relocated

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the seizement as part of the vetted plan

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through the planning department. But

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what we found is in any substantial rain

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event,

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this this is uh this is a hardpiped

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easement and this is an open easement

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where this water comes through in a

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36-in pipe. This isn't a small pipe.

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This is a substantial pipe running 12

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acres of uh surface roadway through our

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property. So under heavy rain

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conditions, this this comes out with

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such velocity that it overtakes this

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entire pro this entire property. So we

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identified that we had a meeting with

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DPW. We asked for a meeting. We said,

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"Look, what we need to do is this leg of

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the easement, which is open to the year,

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has has not been cleaned in some time.

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We don't know. We requested records.

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Nobody has records of the last time this

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easement was cleaned. [snorts]

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We've had nothing uh no forwardthinking

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dialogue. As a matter of fact, we've had

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nothing but refusal to clean the

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seizement, and I'm baffled by it. Um,

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I've worked in the town of Brainree for

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20 years. We're making a $40 million

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capital investment in this community of

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which the town in the very near future

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will be the beneficiary of

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7 to $800,000 in annual tax revenue.

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We're not asking for a lot. It's not an ask for us. This is a legal

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obligation to maintain its easement.

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We've been unable to communicate

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effectively. We're curious as to why the

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town will not clean this easement. We've

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went so far to offer to do that work and

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we were told, "Nope, we'll handle it."

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We have no definitive timelines.

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Um and recently,

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maybe two weeks ago, the town went

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behind um behind what is a Exxon station

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where this ultimately goes out to the

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Manatqua River and they excavated and

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cleaned that channel of the easement,

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which makes zero sense to me. I'm not an

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engineer and you don't need to be an

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engineer, but the source of contamin

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contaminants that clog this line are

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directly through this congested area

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here. So, the sensible approach is if

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you're going to clean an easement, start

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where start here, dig this out, provide

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directional flow for water. The water

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does not make it through this open

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channel. It floods out the property.

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No surprise because, you know, and I'm

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gonna leave these here. If anybody wants

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to look at them, I'll get them in the

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morning. [snorts] But I'm frustrated. A

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$40 million capital investment in our

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community and I can't get a DPW director

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to clean an easement. That's

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unreasonable. It's beyond unreasonable.

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[snorts] Um, it's been a year. I have

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closings where the town would start

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receiving revenue, tax revenue, real

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revenue from this project within the

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next 30 days. And what do I get told by

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the by our by our DPW director? There

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will be no occupancy permits. That's

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unbelievable to me. You should all be

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shocked by that.

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>> I'm more you know

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>> you've got I just want to give you

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you've got about 30 seconds left of your

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time.

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>> We'll leave it at that.

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>> Okay.

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>> You know, I'm beyond frustrated. I met

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with Peter Machuk on Monday. I see this

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project going sideways. I'm not going to

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take the blame for it. This is

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outrageous. Thank you for your time.

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>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Clemens.

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Turning to the council agenda. Council

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councelor Barerica's demolition delay

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order uh 26026.

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ordinate demolition delay ordinance

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amendment or take up any action relative

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there too. This is a public hearing. Uh

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we will be continuing it to October

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20th, but we need to open the hearing.

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Is there a motion to open the public

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hearing?

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>> Motion to open the public hearing.

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>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

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those in favor?

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>> I

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>> Okay. Um this was tabled in the

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committee of ordinance on ordinances

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rules as they work through the proposed

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amendments. At this time we will

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continue the hearing again till October

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20th. Is there a motion to continue the

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public hearing for order 26026

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to October 20th 2026 at 7:30 p.m.

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>> So moved.

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>> Second.

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>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

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those in favor? I

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>> It's unanimous. Thank you.

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Moving to order 26049

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DMAC Enterprises LLC. Reszone portion of

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17011721

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Washington Street or take up any action

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relative there too. This is also a

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public hearing. Is there a motion to p

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to or open the public hearing for order

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2649?

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>> So moved.

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>> Second.

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>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

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those in favor? I

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>> I will now refer to councelor Ringus,

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chair of the committee on ordinances and

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rules for a recommendation on order

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26049.

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>> Uh the committee ordinance and rules met

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on September 10th um regarding um this

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um request. We were taken on a

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historical narrative by attorney

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Johnson. Um but we did send this to the

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full council with a unanimous airable

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recommendation.

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>> Thank you, Council Ringus. Um Mr.

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Johnson uh is here to give us an

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overview on on this. Um prior to his

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overview, I wish to state for the

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record. Uh this property is is near my

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home, but I am not um an abuter to it on

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by the determination of the planning

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department and um by measurement by the

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planning director. So I am allowed to

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participate despite me being kind of

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close. I'm about a house away from being

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in a butter. So, um, Mr. Johnson, would

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you like to give an overview about, um,

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a area of the town, which is, you know,

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probably the best area of the of the

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town in my humble opinion. Uh, go ahead.

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The floor is yours.

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>> Take a vote on that. [clears throat]

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>> For the record, uh, my name is Carl

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Johnson. I represent Petitioner DMAC

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Enterprises, Inc., and Diane Pompio

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Malti, manager, uh, relating to this

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council order 2609.

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[snorts] Um, to reclassify to resident

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to reclassify a residence B portion of a

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split lot, which is lots in more than

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one district as defined in our bylaw.

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both general

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and to uh general business.

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Excuse me. The property is lies in both

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general business and residents uh B at

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7701 through 1721 Washington Street. Uh

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[snorts] a split lot by the way is

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controlled by um 135306.

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It does have a provision where a split

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lot can be within 150 ft could be

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extended for the most for the least um

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for the business use into residents. But

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this site as we'll go over in a minute

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as you can see on here is probably 400

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ft from Washington Street to the rear

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portion and doesn't qualify. Therefore,

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we have to uh reszone the property.

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I've been asked tonight not to be

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repetitive. um from what I've done in

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the past uh two meetings, one before the

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planning board and one before the rules

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and ordinance committee which I very

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much enjoyed by the way in the

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questions. Um so I will go right into

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the petition plan which is before you

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and again

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this site is currently 2.1 uh acres.

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It's surrounded by Washington uh

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Washington Street here. And this is the

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narrowest part of of the property. It's

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a little over approximately 200 ft uh

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212. And it runs along Massachusetts

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Avenue. Massachusetts Avenue is a paper

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street

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or it's an unconstructed um private way.

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This is Old Colony Avenue in the back.

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That was um [snorts]

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again the same thing. It's a private

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unconstructed way or a paper street. And

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this is North Fork Avenue. North Fork

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Avenue as we have u found is all within

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the the property line of this Northfor

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Avenue. I'll show in a minute is 33 feet

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wide. It was a passageway on a plan that

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was shown in 1876

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um when they were doing loting plans for

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the Brainree Highlands. Rentry

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Highlands. Most of it were not completed

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until um the beginning of the 20th

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century. Uh my house was one of the one

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of the first is in a subdivision was

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1937.

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Um this property again is this is Washington Street. This is the

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line right now that is general business

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district.

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um

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general business district. So, it's only

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17,050

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square feet where the rest of the

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property is uh much larger at 74,446

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ft. What we are proposing to do by this

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is to extend this for the entire length

435
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of the property was has been recommended

436
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to us by um planning and and others.

437
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There are a lot of uh different uh

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restrictions upon the property as you'll

439
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see right here.

440
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Um this parking on the property is in

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the residential zone. One a piece of the

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building, this back portion of this

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building is in the residential zone and

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well as uh the site circulation and so

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forth.

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The other things that are incorrupted

447
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was a 20 foot wide sewer easement that

448
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goes across the property which you can't

449
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build upon although you can park upon.

450
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These lines are grade lines or contour

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lines show a steep drop off

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approximately from 136 at this point to

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120 and it goes to 120 and it comes out

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all the way to the back to roughly 100.

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This is a wetlands line that goes around

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the property. These are actual wetlands.

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The other portion of it on the site um

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is uh there are two buffer zones.

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There's a 50 foot and a 100 foot buffer

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zone. So that there are things you can

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build in a buffer zone uh uh but you

462
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can't in in the wetlands line, but

463
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that's all part of uh conservation. So

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it is restricted uh quite a bit.

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again uh Washington Street is um is a

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state highway which is a 60-oot layout

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and that actually has moved a little bit

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widened over the years. So where the

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zone line is shown has hasn't increased

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uh very much. the other private the

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other streets, Old Colony Avenue again

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and Northfor Avenue um are private ways.

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We'll show in a minute. One of the most

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important things that that we determined

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why Northfork Avenue uh was owned by the

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uh the Pompio family and now um of DMAC

477
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um Enterprises LLC is that in 1971 I'm

478
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going to show you a plan is probably the

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most important um other than the origin

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of Northfor Avenue and that was because

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the town took that was an existing

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street uh Beiels Road but it was always

483
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unconstructed. In 1971, there was a um

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layout and taking for Beiel's road. And

485
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when it was finished, they assessed um

486
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Henry Pompio betterments because now he

487
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bounded along a pro um a public way and

488
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that also gives him access to the lower

489
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part of his property. Um at that time

490
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as I said be as I said that the the

491
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property is restricted. What this uh

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reszone would do would create a single

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parcel which 89,600

494
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square ft uh and will provide a unified

495
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neighborhood business parcel and of 2.45

496
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acres. by a business parcel. This is

497
00:22:33,679 --> 00:22:37,360
again been in existence since 1950. It's

498
00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:40,880
developed uh slowly over time. It has

499
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,880
had a number of businesses whether it be

500
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pharmacies, hairdressers,

501
00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:47,360
um dentists at one time. There's fast

502
00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:49,280
food restaurant, there's a convenient m

503
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,679
on there now. It's had a whole host of

504
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uses that served the Massachusetts

505
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Avenue area in particular. Um but it has

506
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generally the uh the highlands area and

507
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the reason that

508
00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:11,029
it came about.

509
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This is this is the uh 1876 plan. And

510
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this is the site and this was um a

511
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railroad station called Brainree Depot

512
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that was uh it was first built in 1866

513
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and ran up until um

514
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1958. This is railroad tracks are split

515
00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:35,520
and there were different um accesses to

516
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the um rail lines at that time and at

517
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one time there were street cars that

518
00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:43,520
went in the front of the property.

519
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,000
It went from South Brainree to Brockton.

520
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This is a blow up of that same uh area

521
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that's shown there. And what I pointed

522
00:23:51,679 --> 00:23:54,640
out is this says passageway 33 feet or

523
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,200
two rods wide. And you can see that this

524
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,240
is within this property. This property

525
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,840
in 1911 became registered land in an

526
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,039
incorporated um

527
00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:09,919
the same area. And there are plans that

528
00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:14,080
show in 1911 that the engineer who was

529
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,320
putting out these loting plans or house

530
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,600
plans to be sold uh in in Boston mostly

531
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,080
uh they uh called it Northfor Avenue for

532
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,840
because it was in Northfor County

533
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,159
probably. But that became the word

534
00:24:30,159 --> 00:24:33,279
Norfork Avenue. So we had to prove

535
00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:36,480
essentially that the owner owned all of

536
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,559
the fee in Northfor Avenue and it's

537
00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:41,760
reflected in their um some of the the

538
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,559
documents that I gave you. the um

539
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:48,480
certificate um and the deed into the um

540
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,919
Pompio family in 1950 uh referenced the

541
00:24:51,919 --> 00:24:56,000
fact that uh the soil and the fee in

542
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,720
this the soil and the fee in Northfor

543
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,880
Avenue um in Old Colony Avenue stayed

544
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,000
with the um property and was not deemed

545
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,400
to be a road so they owned it. Mass

546
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,960
Avenue was different. That that was not

547
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:17,110
included.

548
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,039
This is a zoning map that you may have

549
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:20,960
had in the booklet if you looked at it.

550
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,200
And this is um shows Beiel's Road when

551
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,039
it was a paper street and that was

552
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:29,039
Norfork when it was a paper street. And

553
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:31,600
you can see that this only occupied a

554
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:37,990
small pieshaped portion of the premises.

555
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,120
Probably the most important uh document

556
00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:44,320
approved that was shown in in the

557
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,279
booklet is five and this was a taking by

558
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,360
the town of Brainree

559
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:51,679
uh for the layout of that portion of

560
00:25:51,679 --> 00:25:55,279
Beiel's road and it indicates on the

561
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,600
side of this and I want to read it. It

562
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,320
indicates lots 8 and through 13

563
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,600
assessor's plan and it references the

564
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,720
Henry A. Pompio's uh property and it

565
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,720
says 276 ft. So they assess 276 ft of

566
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,760
betterments out to here which indicates

567
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,799
that um his property bounded along by uh

568
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:24,159
Beiel's road which is um

569
00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:27,039
what it indicates on the older plans. So

570
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:30,640
essentially without going in any further

571
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,279
um I think that we proved that it in

572
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:37,600
fact um does belong. The fee uh or the

573
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,480
ownership of all the land area is within

574
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:48,710
the Pompio family.

575
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,120
» Are you all set, Mr. Johnson? Or

576
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:53,360
>> are you all are you? I I just want to go

577
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,600
for the public benefits that one of the

578
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,240
things we're supposed to uh prove is in

579
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,320
the public benefits allow them to meet

580
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,880
dimensional density requirements on the

581
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,960
enlarged parcel. Improve traffic

582
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,760
circulation removes restrictions without

583
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,679
encroaching into the residential areas

584
00:27:09,679 --> 00:27:12,000
of the buildings and accessory parking.

585
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,400
enhancing the tax base as a unified

586
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,640
business zone and eliminating a split

587
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,840
lot taxes which would be residential and

588
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,640
uh business at a commercial rate. It

589
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,679
increases site parking, reorganizes

590
00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:28,080
uh for more safe traffic circulation and

591
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,159
a better utilization of the buildings

592
00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:32,640
within the neighborhood center. Um

593
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,840
that's probably the briefest

594
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,679
presentation I've had to make and they

595
00:27:35,679 --> 00:27:37,600
cut a lot of things out, but I'm sure

596
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,320
it's appreciated. I would uh really say

597
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,279
that this has been taken a long time, a

598
00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:44,960
couple of years because of what we had

599
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,080
to prove without uh any uh evidence and

600
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,039
it's been um you know it's been a while

601
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:52,640
but I would thank everybody from the

602
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,640
planning board to the rules and

603
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,159
ordinance committee meeting and the full

604
00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:58,240
council and ask for your support. Thank

605
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:58,720
you.

606
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,480
>> Thank you. Are there any questions from

607
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,520
the council for Mr. Johnson?

608
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,960
>> Okay, seeing none, is there anyone from

609
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,640
the mayor's office who wishes to speak

610
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:15,149
on this matter?

611
00:28:15,159 --> 00:28:15,200
» [clears throat]

612
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,039
>> Good evening, council. Uh, Peter Matic,

613
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:18,720
planning director. I believe um the

614
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,320
council was supplied with the pling

615
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,159
board recommendations, but uh the

616
00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:24,559
planning office and uh through obvious

617
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:26,559
the mayor's office, we have worked with

618
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:29,120
attorney Johnson um and we fully support

619
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,120
uh from a staff standpoint and from a

620
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:32,720
planning board standpoint support the

621
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,720
zoning change. Thank you.

622
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,440
>> Thank you, Mr. Magic. Is there anyone

623
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,039
from the general public who would wish

624
00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:44,950
to speak on this matter?

625
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,960
Seeing none, is there a motion to close

626
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,159
the public hearing?

627
00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:49,840
>> Motion to close the public hearing.

628
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,919
>> Second for discussion. I just had one

629
00:28:51,919 --> 00:28:52,559
comment.

630
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:53,600
>> Sure. Council Bar.

631
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,159
>> Yeah. Thank you. Um I just wanted to to

632
00:28:56,159 --> 00:28:58,159
say thank you, Mr. Johnson, and to the

633
00:28:58,159 --> 00:29:01,039
planning department. In our master plan,

634
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:03,200
which was completed a few years ago, one

635
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,880
of the goals was to work to eliminate

636
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,080
split lots and do a better job unifying

637
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,760
our zoning. So, when we get the

638
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,600
opportunity to do that, I know this is

639
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,200
the second one that's come up in the

640
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,679
last couple of years. Um, I think that

641
00:29:17,679 --> 00:29:19,600
is a good chance to start cleaning up

642
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,039
some of our um outdated zoning. So, I

643
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:24,480
will be fully supporting this tonight

644
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200
and thank you to the ONR committee for

645
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,840
their their work on this as well.

646
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,159
>> Thank you.

647
00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:34,000
Council Bara. Um,

648
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,200
I would just echo Councelor Barerica's

649
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,720
um comments and thank Attorney Johnson

650
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,399
for his extensive work on this. um as

651
00:29:44,399 --> 00:29:47,760
someone representing the district and um

652
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,960
living in close proximity, makes no

653
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,360
sense for it to have been split in the

654
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,399
first place. And in his extensive

655
00:29:56,399 --> 00:29:59,200
research, he could really not find a

656
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:06,640
reason why it was split. Um and uh it it is clearly I think in the best

657
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,480
interest of the town um to uh unite this

658
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,320
under a a commercial um designation.

659
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,399
So uh with the closing of the public

660
00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:20,710
hearing, is there a motion?

661
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,720
» Motion to approve the reszone as

662
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,919
submitted as order 26049.

663
00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:26,720
>> Second.

664
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,480
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

665
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,840
those in favor?

666
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,640
>> I. It's unanimous. Thank you again for

667
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,799
the work of the committee on ordinances

668
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:37,279
and rules. Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Thank

669
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:42,000
you, Mr. Matchic. We'll now move to 26

670
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,880
050.

671
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,559
Third hearing, Mayor Allen Allen Street

672
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:50,480
Reconstruction right ofway acquis

673
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,559
acquisition or take any action relative

674
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:54,880
there too. This is also a public

675
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,480
hearing. Is there a motion to open the

676
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,480
public hearing for order 26 050

677
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,799
third uh number three?

678
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:03,840
>> So moved.

679
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,320
>> Second.

680
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,840
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

681
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,880
those in favor?

682
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,559
>> I will now refer to councelor Quilty,

683
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:12,159
chair of the committee on the department

684
00:31:12,159 --> 00:31:14,159
of public works for recommendation on

685
00:31:14,159 --> 00:31:18,230
order 2650-h.

686
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,679
The committee on the department of

687
00:31:19,679 --> 00:31:21,679
public works met earlier this evening

688
00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:23,760
and sends this to the full council with

689
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,039
a unanimous favorable recommendation.

690
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:28,720
Thank you councelor Quilty. Is there a

691
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:36,149
planning board recommendation?

692
00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:38,720
» Mr. Matt, is he just he just stepped

693
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,440
out?

694
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:55,430
>> Okay.

695
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,120
Excuse me, council. I just had to go to

696
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,279
the men's room. Um the planning boards

697
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:00,799
did have a public hearing on this and

698
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:03,679
the planning board fully supports the um

699
00:32:03,679 --> 00:32:07,760
roadway layout as proposed by um our

700
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,679
staff over at the engineering

701
00:32:09,679 --> 00:32:10,480
department.

702
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,039
>> Thank you. Uh this is the third and

703
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:15,120
final vote on this project, the Allen

704
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,960
Street project. Would anyone else from

705
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,519
the mayor's staff wish to speak on the

706
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:21,200
order?

707
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:30,950
Recognize Mr. Thompson.

708
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,480
» Thank you, uh, President MREN and

709
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,000
members of the council. Uh, I'll be

710
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,880
brief. I'm sure everybody's uh had their

711
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,519
fill of Allen Allen Street uh

712
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:42,399
presentations, but um I'm here tonight

713
00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:44,159
just seeking a favorable vote from the

714
00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:46,399
council uh to alter the layout of Allen

715
00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:49,039
Street. Um as with the other uh

716
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:50,720
presentations to the council over the

717
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,039
past several months. Uh this request is

718
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:54,640
uh related to the Allen Street

719
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,519
reconstruction project. Uh this is the

720
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:59,120
last action that will be required of the

721
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,399
council uh to satisfy state and federal

722
00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:04,320
uh rightaway requirements to ensure that

723
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,080
the project moves forward to

724
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,399
construction. Uh at the last council

725
00:33:08,399 --> 00:33:10,399
meeting, the council approved an order

726
00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:12,799
for taking that secured 23 temporary

727
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,200
easements and 12 permanent easements

728
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,440
along the project corridor. Uh there

729
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,360
were three permanent easements that were

730
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,600
taken uh labeled as A2 um I'm sorry E2,

731
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,120
E3, and E4 on the right ofway plan set.

732
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,000
And the purpose for of these three um

733
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,240
permanent easements was for roadway and

734
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,440
sidewalk construction. Um, favorable

735
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,120
action by the council tonight would

736
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,440
amend the Allen Street layout to

737
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,159
incorporate these three easement areas

738
00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:44,960
as after construction, uh, the general

739
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,440
public would have access to these areas.

740
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,519
Um, these layout alterations were

741
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:51,039
presented to the planning board at their

742
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:52,960
September 10th meeting uh, and they

743
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,399
voted to return a favorable

744
00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:56,159
recommendation to the council. Uh, and

745
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:58,240
I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank

746
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,919
you.

747
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:02,720
Um, is there any questions from the

748
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,799
council on this matter?

749
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:06,159
>> Vice President Magglia,

750
00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:08,879
>> thank you very much. Um, we talked a lot

751
00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:11,520
about the details of this last time and

752
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,280
it's pretty it's a pretty major u piece

753
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,760
of work that's happening and it's also

754
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,480
quite exciting.

755
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,200
>> It's going to be very messy over the

756
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,599
next five years and I mean that in the

757
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:28,399
very literal sense of the word. Um

758
00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:31,119
people's um access is going to be

759
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,520
impacted. There's a huge building that

760
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,359
just went up. Now the street is

761
00:34:35,359 --> 00:34:39,200
impacted. Is there a 24-hour point

762
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,119
person or can there be a 24-hour point

763
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:45,599
person for when there is an issue

764
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:48,399
related to this all of this work that's

765
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:51,200
happening and would that be in the town

766
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,200
or would that be with the state?

767
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,000
>> Uh the the answer to your question is uh

768
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,599
is actually both. So there will be um a resident engineer uh

769
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,000
that's standard operating procedure for

770
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000
mass DOT on any project that they

771
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,160
oversee. They have a a resident engineer

772
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,640
that's on the project at all times. Uh

773
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,240
and that I our department of public

774
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,240
works and the engineering department at

775
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:18,960
the town level will be in close contact

776
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,200
with that resident engineer. So um

777
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,760
we'll also make the contact inf uh the

778
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,320
contact information for that individual

779
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,920
uh available to residents but the

780
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,640
residents are also able to reach out to

781
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:38,160
the DPW and we were able to um deal with with things as they come in.

782
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,040
>> And is that just during working hours? I

783
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,119
noticed in all of the plans it talked

784
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,200
about uh the engineer on site and

785
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,200
various personnel on site. what happens

786
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,920
at 6 o'clock, 8:00, midnight if

787
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,119
something should happen.

788
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:54,160
>> Um, also typical with with with um with

789
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,760
large scale projects like this, the

790
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,160
contractor will have um emergency

791
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,040
personnel uh so we can make that, you

792
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,560
know, we can make that available as

793
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:02,880
well.

794
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,880
>> Great. Thank you very much. That's all I

795
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,200
had.

796
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,079
>> Thank you, Vice President Maglio. Um are

797
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:09,440
there any other questions from the

798
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,320
council? Okay.

799
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,880
Um is there anyone if you have nothing

800
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,800
further, Mr. Thompson, thank you for

801
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,760
your work on this. Um, you've, you know,

802
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,880
we've had a lot of documentation.

803
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,119
Uh, you've made it clear to us and we

804
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:27,119
appreciate your efforts on this.

805
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:27,680
>> Thank you.

806
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,560
>> Um, is there anyone from the general

807
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,430
public wishing to speak on this order?

808
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,200
Seeing none, is there a motion to close

809
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,119
the public hearing on 2603?

810
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:42,320
>> So moved.

811
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:42,880
>> Second.

812
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,480
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

813
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,599
those in favor?

814
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:46,240
>> I.

815
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:48,560
>> It's unanimous. I'll now uh ask for a

816
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,200
motion on the order.

817
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,359
>> Motion. I move that the town council

818
00:36:53,359 --> 00:36:55,760
vote to alter the layout of Allen Street

819
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,920
and specifically to include within the

820
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,160
layout of Allen Street certain parcels

821
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,400
being parcels E2, E3, and E4 as shown on

822
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,960
a plan entitled alteration and easement

823
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,119
plan Allen Street, Brainree,

824
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:12,160
Massachusetts, dated August 20th, 2026.

825
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,560
prepared by WSPUSA,

826
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,800
Inc.

827
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,440
>> second.

828
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,119
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

829
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:20,160
those in favor?

830
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:20,960
>> I.

831
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,520
>> It's unanimous. Uh, thank you for your

832
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,760
for, uh, I'd like to thank all the town

833
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,599
departments for their work on this and,

834
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:31,119
uh, and hopefully as it gets messy, uh,

835
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:33,280
we keep on top of it so that, uh, the

836
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,440
residents of Allen Street are are kept

837
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,280
safe and, uh, their concerns are

838
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,640
addressed.

839
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,359
>> Thank you.

840
00:37:39,359 --> 00:37:41,760
I would ask now um I'd like

841
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,839
to take um a matter out of order. Under

842
00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:48,960
new business 26064,

843
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,440
council president discussion and vote on

844
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,680
statement of interest for supplementary

845
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,119
statement to the school building

846
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:58,720
authority or take up any action relative

847
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:00,880
there too. We have with us this evening

848
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,880
the superintendent of schools and and

849
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,040
the chair of the school committee. This

850
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,760
would require same night action request

851
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,040
is um uh or same night action. This is a

852
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,520
same night action request. Is there any

853
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,440
objection from any counselors to same

854
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,670
night action on this order?

855
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,320
Seeing none, uh I would ask um for

856
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,040
either the superintendent or or uh the

857
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,000
school committee chair to come up and uh

858
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,760
give us a status on where we are with

859
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,160
the SBA and and what's being requested

860
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:39,430
this evening.

861
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,119
I would note that um councelor uh

862
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:45,599
Sterling and I attended the uh school

863
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:48,240
committee uh meeting last last evening

864
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:51,040
and listen to the um the deliberations

865
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,280
and discussion and it was uh very

866
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,520
helpful. So superintendent floor is

867
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,320
yours.

868
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,440
>> Thank you very much. Uh, as many of you

869
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,920
know, the MSBA visited Brainree High

870
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,000
School for a visit on the first day of

871
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,640
school and we had a group of town

872
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,240
leaders there along with school leaders

873
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,400
and we listened gave some brief

874
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,760
presentations and listened to some

875
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,160
questions from the MSBA and from the

876
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,720
architects that were present

877
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:19,520
during that discussion. Uh, the MSBA uh

878
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,280
made it very clear that the decision

879
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,359
regarding grade configuration was left

880
00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:26,000
up to the town of Brainery. But they did

881
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,760
infer that it would be better for us to

882
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,000
be more specific in which way we would

883
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,079
like to go forward. Um at that point um

884
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,720
the school committee decided last night

885
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:40,320
uh to on a vote of 6 to1 to go with a 9

886
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,599
through 12 grade configuration for the

887
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:46,160
new or renovated Brainree High School in

888
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,480
the hopes that the MSBA will choose to

889
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,560
partner with us for this important

890
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,079
building.

891
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:53,280
Thank you.

892
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,839
>> Thank you. Um, are there any questions

893
00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:58,560
from any of the counselors?

894
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,920
>> Councelor Barerica.

895
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,240
>> Thank you, President Morren. Um, I'm

896
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:05,280
curious just from a procedural

897
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,520
standpoint because we don't have

898
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,560
anything in our in our uh documents for

899
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,240
the tonight.

900
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:15,040
Is there do we need to revote on the

901
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,880
statement of interest or is this just

902
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,599
more of anformational update? So what

903
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:23,119
this is is a is a supplemental or an

904
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:25,839
updated or clarification of of this

905
00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:27,359
statement of interest. It does not

906
00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:29,359
require a revote on the statement of

907
00:40:29,359 --> 00:40:31,119
interest that was approved by the

908
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,440
council previously. This is just in

909
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,320
supplement to that to clarify um to the

910
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,920
um uh SBA what the preference of the of

911
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,560
the town is. and they were asking that

912
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,680
if the school committee and the uh

913
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,119
council could um you know state in

914
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:54,240
unison what their preferences are.

915
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,560
>> Okay. With a followup then so we would

916
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,880
be sending up in conjunction with the

917
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,640
school committee depending on the

918
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,200
outcome of this evening a like an

919
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,599
amendment that is signed by either

920
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:07,680
yourself or the entire council. a

921
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,520
letter. I believe a letter would be

922
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,200
signed by the superintendent, the chair

923
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,680
of the u the school committee and and

924
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,240
myself.

925
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:20,079
>> Okay. Thank you for clarifying and um I have a lot of faith and trust in our

926
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:22,240
school committee members and know that

927
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:27,920
they have done a ton of work on um the

928
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,839
SOI

929
00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:32,720
la last school year earlier this

930
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:35,200
calendar year and um I will definitely

931
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,040
be fully supporting their decision this

932
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,760
evening. So thank you. Thank you for uh

933
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,560
answering my questions.

934
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,839
>> Thank you for the questions council

935
00:41:41,839 --> 00:41:43,920
barer. Are there any other

936
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,960
>> not a question?

937
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,000
>> Councel Dudy.

938
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,760
>> Thank you, Mr. President. Uh having some

939
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,440
experience with the MSBA and their

940
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,520
processes and procedures. Uh I support

941
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,760
the shift to grades 9 through 12 in the

942
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,920
high school. Uh when we parted partnered

943
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,040
with the MSBA uh on South and East, we

944
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,040
addressed an enrollment issue that we

945
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,960
were then facing. Uh we worked with the

946
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,040
MSBA on those projects receiving

947
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,200
significant funding from the state. Um

948
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,640
at that point, we had a plan in place

949
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,040
for grades 5 through eight. uh and we're

950
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,480
going to go back to them to work on the

951
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,040
high schools 9th through 12 later on. So

952
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,160
now uh modifying the S so SOI stays uh

953
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,560
in line with the previous uh plans and

954
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,040
conversations we had with the MSBA uh

955
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,119
which up to that point, you know, has

956
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:27,200
been an effective partnership. Uh

957
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,800
keeping in line with that original plan

958
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,040
shows the state that we're serious uh in

959
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,359
our original plans and I believe it

960
00:42:33,359 --> 00:42:35,119
gives uh the town the best chance we

961
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:36,720
have in addressing the current issues at

962
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:37,760
the high school.

963
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,319
>> Thank you, Council Derty. there. Council

964
00:42:40,319 --> 00:42:41,680
>> Ringers,

965
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,760
>> just a comment. Um I I served on the

966
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,680
school committee when we initially voted

967
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,599
to transition to that sort of 5 through

968
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,800
eight um model and I think I piggyback

969
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,400
on what council dudy says. I think it

970
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,400
sort of sticks with that path that we

971
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,040
had um established at that time that we

972
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,079
were going to focus on the 5 through

973
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:00,800
eight to address at that time um was a

974
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,359
significant um overcrowding issue that

975
00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:04,720
we were facing in all our entry schools

976
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,880
and by moving fifth to middle school it

977
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,119
sort of alleviated that concern. um and

978
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,040
created what we now have following that

979
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,800
path to our sort of our new south and

980
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,119
our new east. And I think this is now

981
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:16,960
sort of the next step in that process.

982
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,920
Um the kids have these bright, shiny,

983
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,760
wonderful new middle schools and we hope

984
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,680
that at some point it will follow suit

985
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,920
that that will continue into their high

986
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,720
school years. Um, I applaud and u thank

987
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:32,800
Superintendent uh McDonald and his staff

988
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,640
as well as Chairman Rolo and the school

989
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,920
committee for the work that they put on

990
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,000
this all through last spring through the

991
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,240
summer uh and now into the fall. Um, and

992
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:42,240
I am going to uh support this as well.

993
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:44,800
So, thank you.

994
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,480
>> There any other comments? Vice President

995
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,119
Mley?

996
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:48,640
>> Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much for

997
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,560
this update. I'm wondering what has

998
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,440
happened since we submitted this to now

999
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,200
that results in making this um firm

1000
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,400
distinction I guess for 9 to 12.

1001
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,079
>> I think the biggest piece was the the

1002
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:06,319
visit that we had with the MSBA in early

1003
00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:07,680
September where they kind of gave us the

1004
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:08,880
indication that it would be important

1005
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,920
for us to choose one way or the other.

1006
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,400
And so they said it was important to

1007
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,359
choose, but was there any did we do any

1008
00:44:17,359 --> 00:44:20,960
further research or um like what is it

1009
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,000
that made us choose 9 to 12 versus the

1010
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,760
what was it 7 to 12?

1011
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,640
>> Correct.

1012
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,520
>> Like what what more did we learn that

1013
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,560
makes that a good idea?

1014
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,160
>> Well, I don't know if we learned more to

1015
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,000
make it a good idea. I think it was more

1016
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,960
about what's the best avenue for the

1017
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,119
town of Brainy to to be invited into the

1018
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:43,440
process. And I think and I don't want to

1019
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,400
speak for the school committee members

1020
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,319
that voted, but I think that was one of

1021
00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:48,640
the driving forces for going in this

1022
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,079
direction was we felt that this would

1023
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:52,160
make give us a better opportunity to get

1024
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,000
into the partnership.

1025
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,319
>> Okay. So, this is a this is a strategic

1026
00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:58,960
decision in order to get the funding.

1027
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,280
Yes.

1028
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,520
>> Basically to get a new high school. So,

1029
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,319
I I

1030
00:45:02,319 --> 00:45:03,599
>> renovated renovated high school.

1031
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:05,200
>> I'm sorry. or a renovated high school

1032
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,880
>> or renovated. So I'm just wondering

1033
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,480
did they offer reasons as to why that

1034
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,920
would be more

1035
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,920
investment worthy or attractive or we

1036
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,880
would have um a uh better outcomes. We'd

1037
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,560
have a better educational program. Like

1038
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,800
I'm just I'm just looking for something

1039
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,359
that makes 9 to 12 a really good

1040
00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:33,760
decision other than it's what we can get

1041
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,800
the funding for.

1042
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,440
>> Well, I think it was more about showing

1043
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,839
the unity, show being more specific as a

1044
00:45:39,839 --> 00:45:41,760
group, as a town council and as a school

1045
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,520
committee going in one direction as

1046
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,760
opposed to having we put this originally

1047
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,760
in the soi to try to be versatile, you

1048
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,119
know, try to show our versatility to the

1049
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:52,720
MSBA. And when we met with them, they pretty much said it would be better

1050
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,680
if you could just pick one or the other,

1051
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,560
which led us to this decision.

1052
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,599
>> Okay. Thank you.

1053
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,599
>> You're welcome.

1054
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:04,800
>> Are there any other questions?

1055
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,760
>> Council Flurry.

1056
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,079
>> Thank you. Not a question, just a a

1057
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,800
statement to be clear. Um, I attended

1058
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,520
this meeting um with the MSBA

1059
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,040
representatives and we toured the high

1060
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,839
school and I I have a a son who just

1061
00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:19,040
graduated from the high school and a

1062
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,480
daughter who's a senior there and I've

1063
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,880
been visiting the high school, you know,

1064
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,640
semi-regularly for the last I don't know

1065
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,677
seven or eight years. And um what this

1066
00:46:29,677 --> 00:46:31,359
[clears throat] tour did was take me

1067
00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:34,480
beyond the area of the gym and the

1068
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,680
cafeteria and the auditorium, the front

1069
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,040
of the building so to speak that I have

1070
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,119
regularly seen, which is not fancy. It

1071
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:45,680
is not fancy in there, but it is clean

1072
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,800
and it looks like things are at least

1073
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,119
intact.

1074
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:54,400
The tour that I was taken through took

1075
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,920
us into the science classrooms, the art

1076
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,280
classrooms, the orchestra room, and what

1077
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,200
you can see when you get away from the

1078
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,040
front of the building is a lot of things

1079
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,870
that just look

1080
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,240
out of order. So, peeling paint, water

1081
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:17,599
damage, faulty sinks, cluttered

1082
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:19,920
conditions because of lack of storage.

1083
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,920
We were told about regular bathroom

1084
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,720
closures and unattractive bathroom

1085
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:26,960
smells because of plumbing problems,

1086
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,480
water damage because of leaks.

1087
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,440
There's damaged furniture.

1088
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,800
It's shabby. It's unwelcoming.

1089
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,960
And it really is something that needs to

1090
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,560
be

1091
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,960
renovated, replaced,

1092
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,280
radically improved. And this community

1093
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,359
has known that for a long, long time.

1094
00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:49,680
Like I sort of thought when my kids were

1095
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,200
little and attending the integrated

1096
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,760
preschool that we would have a maybe a

1097
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,200
new high school by the time my kids were

1098
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,960
ready to go and that just did not turn

1099
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,280
out to be the case. But um

1100
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,319
now we are confronted with this question

1101
00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:07,119
of whether to change the grade

1102
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:09,839
configurations of the high school

1103
00:48:09,839 --> 00:48:12,480
because in the school master plan it

1104
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,079
indicated that we were interested in

1105
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:16,400
both options.

1106
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,359
And um I think that a decision to

1107
00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:21,440
explore the pursuit of a 7 through 12

1108
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,680
grade configuration may have some merit

1109
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,240
in theory, but this decision has to be

1110
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,240
taken in the context that we are in

1111
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:32,480
right now. Um and there are two things

1112
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,119
that are really relevant to consider in

1113
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:38,319
my view. One is that we just partnered

1114
00:48:38,319 --> 00:48:40,400
with the MSBA on two middle school

1115
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,960
projects where we asked them to support

1116
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,559
us through building a 5 through8 school

1117
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:49,200
once and then another 5 through8 school

1118
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,079
again. So to change

1119
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:58,160
uh to change course at this point

1120
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,319
um is not in alignment with what we told

1121
00:49:00,319 --> 00:49:03,200
them we wanted to do in the past. And I

1122
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,520
can well understand why that might make

1123
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,160
them hesitate to partner with us because

1124
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,400
you want to be a partner in good faith

1125
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,440
and not give the impression that you're

1126
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,359
going to change at any moment that you

1127
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:16,480
don't really know what you're doing and

1128
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,440
what you need. The other thing is that

1129
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,359
this community is expecting a 9

1130
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:23,680
through12 proposal to come forward and

1131
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,480
we are absolutely going to need um to

1132
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,800
pass a debt exclusion in order to fund

1133
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,960
it. And so I I think that at this point

1134
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,800
to try and convince a public that is

1135
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,079
entirely unexpecting this sort of idea

1136
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:42,640
to come forward that this is what we

1137
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,240
should put big money towards is you know

1138
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:48,960
perhaps a bigger lift than we want than

1139
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,839
we should take on. Um so I will be

1140
00:49:51,839 --> 00:49:55,200
supporting this tonight for sure.

1141
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,559
>> Well said. Thank you councel flarity.

1142
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:00,000
One more time, Vice President.

1143
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,200
>> Thank you. So, I think that I will also

1144
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,440
be prepared to support this, but I do

1145
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,000
want to say that I was hoping that there

1146
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,440
would be a lot more information

1147
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,760
available to us. Counselor Flareity just

1148
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,079
mentioned a master plan, which I don't

1149
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:15,839
feel like we actually do have a school

1150
00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:18,640
master plan. I don't there's hasn't been

1151
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,960
any real new information since the last

1152
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,920
time we met which was extremely tense

1153
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,960
and fraught with um [snorts]

1154
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:33,920
with uh urgency and um I would

1155
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,920
>> I would ask that there be um a real

1156
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,920
effort to actually create um the kind of

1157
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,960
communication mechanisms that we can get

1158
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,800
information the town can get information

1159
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,040
and we can see that there's actually

1160
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,119
work happening on the planning part of

1161
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:53,680
this. I mean, we still don't know for

1162
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,920
the rest of the schools what's going to

1163
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,640
happen. And for me, it it's hard to

1164
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,599
parcel this out without having a big

1165
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:04,240
vision of what the future will bring for

1166
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:06,880
our elementary schools, particularly the

1167
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,359
schools that are in East Brainree. So, I

1168
00:51:09,359 --> 00:51:12,559
think that is something that I am hoping

1169
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:17,920
to see some work on. Um, and um, I think

1170
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,760
that would really be the spirit of

1171
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,000
teamwork and collaboration and everyone

1172
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,319
working together if we actually have a

1173
00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:26,240
plan that involves our entire public

1174
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:28,480
school system and how we're going to

1175
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,000
fund it and what it's going to look like

1176
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,599
moving forward. But I do agree with um

1177
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:37,200
the need. I just

1178
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,839
would um I just would have thought it

1179
00:51:39,839 --> 00:51:40,960
would have played out a little

1180
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,119
differently. But thank you. That's all I

1181
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:44,559
want to say.

1182
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:45,760
>> Thank you.

1183
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,800
Um if if there are no other comments

1184
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,880
from other councils, I I will take the

1185
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,119
opportunity to comment. Um

1186
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:57,359
I think that

1187
00:51:57,359 --> 00:51:59,440
in listening to this uh the school

1188
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,280
committee's discussion last night and

1189
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,280
particularly in the uh comments of Dr.

1190
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,880
Horics, a member of the uh um committee

1191
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,720
in her statement that you know she

1192
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:14,800
discussed with other educators which uh configuration was preferential

1193
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,240
and uh she came down on the side of of 9

1194
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:20,800
through 12 and uh from from an

1195
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,680
educational perspective

1196
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:28,240
from my perspective I focus on on the

1197
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:29,680
work of this council and the work of

1198
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,559
this town's government on

1199
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:35,440
um the art of the possible. What we are

1200
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,040
trying to do is get a new high school

1201
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,680
built and I think we need to um take the

1202
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,839
steps that are going to enhance the

1203
00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:48,240
likelihood of success for that. Uh going

1204
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:51,040
to a 7 through 12 model would would be

1205
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,200
disruptive for the elementary schools

1206
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,359
that we currently have. That would

1207
00:52:55,359 --> 00:52:57,680
generate opposition.

1208
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,119
Um, reconfiguring the current middle

1209
00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:03,920
schools, as council uh, Flareity so

1210
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,160
articulately stated,

1211
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,720
would cause questions with the SBA and

1212
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:13,119
questions with the public as to are well

1213
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:15,839
intended, but are we committed to a

1214
00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:17,440
direction?

1215
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:22,400
Um we I think we if by joining with the

1216
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,800
school committee this evening I think we

1217
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,520
demonstrate a unity of purpose and

1218
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,880
support um for a new high school with a

1219
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,000
configuration of grades 9 through 12. I

1220
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,160
think we've also demonstrated in that

1221
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,200
meeting that we have financial stability

1222
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,240
that we have not had uh when we have

1223
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:44,880
filed and tried to partner with the SBA

1224
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,800
previously. We've got the money set

1225
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,280
aside for the feasibility study. We've

1226
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,480
got our our fiscal house in much greater

1227
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,119
better order than we had previously.

1228
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:57,760
We're ready to to partner uh in a way

1229
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,520
that in a more meaningful way than we

1230
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,920
have been in years. So I think that it

1231
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,599
is important for us to to join uh with

1232
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:08,160
the school committee in their action and

1233
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,960
um and support uh their um communication

1234
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,720
to the u school building authority. With

1235
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:23,670
that I would entertain a motion.

1236
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,920
I move that the town council join the

1237
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,520
school committee in supporting its

1238
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,359
supplemental submission to the school

1239
00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:30,800
building authority.

1240
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:31,680
>> Second.

1241
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,440
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

1242
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,720
those in favor?

1243
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:35,359
>> I.

1244
00:54:35,359 --> 00:54:37,839
>> It is unanimous. Thank you very much.

1245
00:54:37,839 --> 00:54:39,520
Thank you, Superintendent. Thank you,

1246
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,440
Chair Rola, for attending this evening.

1247
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,520
Okay, I got to go find my place again.

1248
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,760
Here we've done Allen Street. Don't want

1249
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,520
to do Allen Street again.

1250
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,319
Okay, we're moving to back to the uh

1251
00:54:54,319 --> 00:54:58,079
agenda. We'll be moving to 26059

1252
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:00,160
council uh amendments to zoning

1253
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,000
ordinance 135206 and 135604 or any

1254
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,280
action relative there too. Um this is on

1255
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,800
as a public hearing but it will be

1256
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,119
continued to October 20th. Is there a

1257
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:13,920
motion to um open the public hearing?

1258
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,599
>> Motion to open the public hearing for

1259
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:17,440
those three orders.

1260
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:18,319
>> Second.

1261
00:55:18,319 --> 00:55:19,920
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

1262
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,040
those in favor?

1263
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:21,520
>> I

1264
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,440
>> Okay, we're open. Uh, this was tabled by

1265
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,040
the committee on ordinances and rules

1266
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,400
waiting for legal review and the

1267
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,400
planning board recommendation. At this

1268
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,640
time, we'll continue the public hearing

1269
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,240
on uh till October 20th, 20 uh 26 at

1270
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,240
7:30 p.m. Is there a motion to continue

1271
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,119
the public hearing for order 26059?

1272
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:40,880
>> Motion to continue.

1273
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:41,359
>> Second.

1274
00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:42,960
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

1275
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,720
those in in favor?

1276
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:45,599
>> I.

1277
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:48,559
>> Okay. Thank you.

1278
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:54,160
Okay. Um, next uh is 26061,

1279
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,680
mayor's authorization to accept

1280
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,480
donations, veterans programs, or take up

1281
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,200
any action relative there too. I'd now

1282
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,880
uh refer to Council Barerica, chair of

1283
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,400
the Ways and Means Committee for

1284
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,480
recommendation on the order.

1285
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,160
>> Thank you, President Morren. The

1286
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,079
Committee of Ways and Means met uh

1287
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:12,400
yesterday on September 14th. We're

1288
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,400
sending this to the full council with a

1289
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,119
unanimous favorable recommendation and

1290
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:20,720
our many thanks to the donors.

1291
00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:22,880
>> Thank you, Council Barer. Anyone wish to

1292
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,319
speak on this matter from the mayor's

1293
00:56:24,319 --> 00:56:26,319
office?

1294
00:56:26,319 --> 00:56:28,000
>> Mr. Resmond.

1295
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:28,799
>> Good evening. [clears throat] Uh,

1296
00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:30,000
President MREN and members of the

1297
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,400
council. Just very quickly, um motion in

1298
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,200
front of you um would allow uh the town

1299
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,559
to accept $1,100 um from the two

1300
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:40,640
indicated um community organizations

1301
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,200
that help serve uh provide services to

1302
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,520
our veterans um community. These were

1303
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,000
greatly appreciated gifts. And um just

1304
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,640
for um a little information, this will

1305
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,880
help um our veteran services officer

1306
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,359
defay costs for events and community

1307
00:56:55,359 --> 00:56:58,480
programming. he provides um in service

1308
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,240
to the veterans in our community um

1309
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:01,920
through the course of the year. I'm

1310
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,480
happy to answer any questions.

1311
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,720
>> Any questions?

1312
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:09,200
Seeing none. Thank you, Mr. Esmond. Um

1313
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,200
uh Council Reynolds, I apologize.

1314
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,319
>> Not a question. Thank you, Mr.

1315
00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:13,839
President. Just a comment. I want to say

1316
00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:16,960
thank you to the American Legion Post 86

1317
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,079
and Disabled American Veterans Post uh

1318
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:22,319
for their generous donations to the

1319
00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:25,599
town's veteran services uh office. It is

1320
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:28,640
a as we all know it's a growing um

1321
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,559
interest in supporting the veterans of

1322
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:32,880
not only Brainree but also supporting

1323
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,280
the veterans uh and veteran related

1324
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,680
issues for the towns of Avon and

1325
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,400
Hullbrook as well. And I just wanted to

1326
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,880
make sure that the that the the

1327
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,559
community had the opportunity to say

1328
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:46,559
thank you to those organizations and

1329
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:50,720
supporting the town government's uh

1330
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,960
ability to provide those important

1331
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,839
benefits that Mr. Eman had enumerated.

1332
00:57:55,839 --> 00:57:57,520
Thank you, Mr. President.

1333
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,280
>> Thank you, Councelor Reynolds. Well

1334
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,640
said. Um

1335
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,359
there's no further um discussion. I'll

1336
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:07,359
take a motion.

1337
00:58:07,359 --> 00:58:09,680
>> Motion that the town of Brainree be and

1338
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,920
hereby is authorized in accordance with

1339
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,119
section 53A of chapter 44 of the

1340
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,599
Massachusetts General Laws to accept the

1341
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:19,280
following gift upon the conditions

1342
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,880
attached and herein set forth. Donor

1343
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,920
Brainree American Legion Post86 gift

1344
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,359
$100 purpose support veteran programs

1345
00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:33,280
donor Brainree VFW Post1702

1346
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,880
gift $1,000 purpose support veteran

1347
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,640
programs

1348
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,200
>> second.

1349
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,960
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

1350
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,240
those in favor?

1351
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:42,720
>> I.

1352
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,400
>> It's unanimous. Thank you. Thank you,

1353
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,640
Mr. Esmond. Next to uh 26062 mayor

1354
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,640
intermunicipal agreement for emergency

1355
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,960
motor vehicle technician services or any

1356
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,839
action relative there too. I'll now once

1357
00:58:55,839 --> 00:58:57,680
again refer to council bareric chair of

1358
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,520
the committee on ways and means for a

1359
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,640
recommendation on order 26062.

1360
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,559
>> Thank you very much president MREN. Um

1361
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:06,960
again the committee met yesterday and we

1362
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,480
are sending this to the full council

1363
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,240
with a unanimous favorable

1364
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,359
recommendation.

1365
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:12,960
>> Thank you councelor Barerica. Is there

1366
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,799
anyone from the mayor's staff that would

1367
00:59:14,799 --> 00:59:16,640
like to speak on this matter? Chief

1368
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:21,750
Viola.

1369
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:22,960
» Good evening and thank you, Freddy

1370
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,079
Viola, Fire Chief. Um,

1371
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:28,000
I wanted to be able to explain and

1372
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,720
answer any questions related to this IMA

1373
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,400
uh intermunicipal agreement with the

1374
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,880
town of Foxboro. So, I I have to go

1375
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,720
backwards to go forward. So, I'll just

1376
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,359
tell you that when um when I first took

1377
00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:40,880
over, one of the first things that I was

1378
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,119
doing or did was take an assessment of

1379
00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:45,200
the um the vehicles that we have in our

1380
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,200
fleet, which consists of five engines,

1381
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,000
two ladders, uh one squad, one forestry

1382
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,920
truck, and a heavy rescue, which I'm

1383
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,319
dying to hear from the TE on. Uh we also

1384
00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:56,160
have some administrative vehicles or or

1385
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,720
light duty vehicles that um we we send

1386
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,880
out for repairs. We have a number of

1387
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:05,359
vendors u now and that list grows. Um, a

1388
01:00:05,359 --> 01:00:07,760
lot of the firetruck stuff when it goes

1389
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,000
to be repaired, we have to send it to if

1390
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,000
it's not a light duty repair, it has to

1391
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,760
go to the dealership and the dealership

1392
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,240
charges us if anyone has a vehicle,

1393
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,680
newer vehicle, and they take it to the

1394
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,520
dealership. You understand the

1395
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,119
dealership rates are a lot higher than

1396
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:23,040
that of [snorts] your typical repair

1397
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:27,359
shops. So, um, in partnership with, um,

1398
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:29,280
FCAM and some of the other chief

1399
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,520
organizations, I found that the town of

1400
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,599
Foxboro can do these repairs with

1401
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:37,760
certified technicians at least rate and

1402
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,839
with a little more expedience than that

1403
01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:42,640
of the dealership. So, I felt that um,

1404
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,240
to relieve some of the stray that we

1405
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,079
have with using the same old same old

1406
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:48,400
all the time or taxing some of the

1407
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,559
smaller vendors that we should enter

1408
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:52,799
into this agreement to um, provide some

1409
01:00:52,799 --> 01:00:55,200
repairs. The oldest truck that we have

1410
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,040
currently as a firstline piece of

1411
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,640
apparatus is a 2012 and that uh needs

1412
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,960
some some work to keep that running as a

1413
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,119
frontline piece. Uh that's the engine

1414
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:08,400
three east side the uh the engine the

1415
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,000
engine 3 which covers the east side of

1416
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,480
Brainree. Um so that needs some repairs

1417
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,640
and they I wanted to be able to do that.

1418
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,520
They they're all certified um Allison

1419
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,920
transmissions, Cumins motors, hail

1420
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,839
pumps, waterous pumps. These are all

1421
01:01:21,839 --> 01:01:24,480
factory standard but um they need

1422
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,160
certified technicians to work on them

1423
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,960
and also to and on an annual basis

1424
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,599
certify them as safe to operate at a

1425
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:34,720
fire. So um yeah just to eliminate the

1426
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,960
stray and look for more ways to save

1427
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,040
money and make our budget stretch a

1428
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,640
little bit more. This is just one more

1429
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,720
option. We wouldn't use them exclusive

1430
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,480
exclusively for everything, but we would

1431
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,040
use them um periodically especially they

1432
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,960
can offer mobile service so they can

1433
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,640
come out to Brainree and fix it here um

1434
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,720
on that. So they're just we just want to

1435
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,640
add them to as one of our vendor list

1436
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,400
and I would be happy to answer any

1437
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,040
further questions.

1438
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,680
>> Are there any questions?

1439
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:04,640
>> Council Beric,

1440
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,720
>> just a comment. Um, I think it's

1441
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,599
important and to acknowledge and thank

1442
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:11,920
you, Chief Fiola, for your work on this.

1443
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,839
You know, this not only is a cost

1444
01:02:13,839 --> 01:02:17,440
savings for the town of Brainree, it

1445
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,680
protects our firefighters, it protects

1446
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,599
our residents by making sure our

1447
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:26,799
equipment is in service as much as

1448
01:02:26,799 --> 01:02:29,760
possible. I believe in uh one of the

1449
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,520
memos we received through Ways and

1450
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,920
Means. You know, we at one point, I

1451
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,119
think it was in the 90s, we had our own

1452
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:40,319
firefighter fire truck.

1453
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:42,799
>> We had a um we had an ASME employee that

1454
01:02:42,799 --> 01:02:44,880
worked as a mechanic. And he was one of

1455
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,960
those people that in a blizzard could

1456
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,240
get a tank running [snorts] on the side

1457
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,520
of the road. He was just one of those

1458
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,200
guys that was very, very handy, very

1459
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,400
good. He could weld, he could do

1460
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,640
everything. So with that there was a

1461
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,160
member of the fire department that

1462
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:02,000
helped him. Um as time passed those

1463
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,559
positions were faded out and we have we

1464
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:07,040
still have someone who does fluid breaks

1465
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,119
um twice a month and we have a uh

1466
01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:12,160
Lieutenant Milwood who um oversees that

1467
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,559
keeps that on a steady basis. I'm a I'm

1468
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:16,559
a real uh preventive maintenance person.

1469
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:18,319
I am with my own vehicle and I think

1470
01:03:18,319 --> 01:03:19,599
it's very important when it comes to

1471
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:22,319
frontline apparatus. So, and uh I'm in

1472
01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:24,240
concert with Lieutenant Mil Milwood with

1473
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,079
that. So, um he organizes the those

1474
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:30,720
types of spot checks uh twice a month as

1475
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,240
well as all these other repairs. He

1476
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,000
interfaces with the vendors. He

1477
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,680
interfaces with the parts companies and

1478
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,440
those things. So, we still have someone

1479
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,760
that does that but doesn't turn

1480
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,039
wrenches. We don't have the capacity or

1481
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:44,720
the facil or the proper facilities,

1482
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,480
proper waste oil containment, things

1483
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,760
like that that would come along with

1484
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,319
that. So it is a lot easier to um you

1485
01:03:50,319 --> 01:03:52,880
know farm it out essentially.

1486
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,319
>> Well, I I commend you on the your vision

1487
01:03:56,319 --> 01:03:58,720
and your leadership for not just this

1488
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,480
program but for the department because

1489
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,720
these are the little things that end up

1490
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,760
being the big things. Um when there is

1491
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,079
an emergency, our trucks will be ready.

1492
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:10,000
Um and and that's thanks to your

1493
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,599
leadership. So thank you, Chief.

1494
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:14,720
>> Thank you,

1495
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,280
Chief. Um, I want to commend you for

1496
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:18,960
your creativity and your approach to

1497
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,799
this this um this issue. I think it it

1498
01:04:22,799 --> 01:04:24,799
will lead to cost savings. It'll also

1499
01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:27,920
keep vehicles in service. Um, when you

1500
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,440
have to go to the dealership, you not

1501
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,359
only have to pay more, you have to wait

1502
01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:32,000
longer.

1503
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:32,400
>> Yes.

1504
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,400
>> And um and and that I think is a is a

1505
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,200
public safety issue and for for some

1506
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,520
departments uh you have really have to

1507
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,599
manage uh your vehicles well. I think

1508
01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:46,240
your your vehicle maintenance program,

1509
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,480
you know, I happen to hear a lot about

1510
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:48,880
that.

1511
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:49,839
>> Oh, I'm sure you do.

1512
01:04:49,839 --> 01:04:52,720
>> Yes. Um, so I'm I'm well familiar with

1513
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,280
that. It it seems like it's it's active.

1514
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,280
It's important, you know, we've seen we

1515
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,280
know the tragedies in Boston when brakes

1516
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,039
failed on on engines.

1517
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:03,039
>> It's important to keep up on on those

1518
01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:08,079
things. Um, I share councelor Barerica's

1519
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:12,720
uh um curiosity about and I remember

1520
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,119
when we did have the de the uh ASME

1521
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:17,920
employee that that did this work. I

1522
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,200
think we ideally we would we would be

1523
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,599
better off if we could one day get to

1524
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:25,680
the point where we did have a a fire

1525
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,880
mechanic on staff. in Norwell where I

1526
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,640
was town minister, we were fortunate to

1527
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,960
have two and and so those communities

1528
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,720
that do have them share and and what

1529
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,119
you're doing now is availing yourself of

1530
01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:43,359
a community that has that in a in a

1531
01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:47,119
shrewd way. Um, but I I would like to,

1532
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:49,039
you know, see if we could get to a point

1533
01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:53,359
where we have a facility that can um,

1534
01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:55,680
you know, where we can properly service

1535
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,839
our vehicles and we have the staff that

1536
01:05:57,839 --> 01:05:59,440
can work on it as well.

1537
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,200
>> Yeah, that would be it's going to take a

1538
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,359
while to get there, but I it's a worthy

1539
01:06:03,359 --> 01:06:04,079
goal.

1540
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:06,720
>> Yes. I uh just two notes too that you

1541
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,559
know we should I know that you folks

1542
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:10,480
know but maybe for the public is that we

1543
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,920
have capital uh we have we purchased a

1544
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,599
fire engine this year through capital

1545
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:17,920
and we have another one spaced out um

1546
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,319
for purchase in you know between now and

1547
01:06:20,319 --> 01:06:24,319
2030 I believe it is. So um if we find

1548
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:27,119
one like we did that like this new one

1549
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:28,640
um we can certainly make that purchase

1550
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,599
and just update our fleet with um with a

1551
01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:33,839
newer newer apparatus. But with all the

1552
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:36,000
newer apparatus comes with all the

1553
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,200
newer, you know, computers and all the

1554
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:40,960
other stuff that come with it. And then

1555
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,119
uh the uh ways and means asked me last

1556
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:45,200
night and I wasn't sure. So I I did some

1557
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,760
research in Cambridge also does this uh

1558
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,079
jointly for the north of Boston. So just

1559
01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:51,440
in case you were wonder I know you were

1560
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,920
wondering last night. So I did find that

1561
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,359
out. So

1562
01:06:55,359 --> 01:06:56,799
>> thank you chief.

1563
01:06:56,799 --> 01:06:58,880
>> Uh if there's no further discussion I'll

1564
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,720
entertain a motion on this order.

1565
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,240
Motion authorizing Mayor Erin v. Joyce

1566
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,880
to execute an intermunic municipal

1567
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,480
agreement on behalf of the town of

1568
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,720
Braintry for shared emergency motor

1569
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,359
vehicle technician services between the

1570
01:07:15,359 --> 01:07:18,000
towns of Braintry and Foxboro.

1571
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:18,640
>> Second.

1572
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,160
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

1573
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,119
those in favor?

1574
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:21,760
>> I.

1575
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,200
>> It's unanimous. Thank you. Um we have on

1576
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,880
the agenda this evening um 2726

1577
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,640
uh which we've had but we have no one

1578
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,400
from the mayor's office attending this

1579
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,480
evening to discuss or give us an update

1580
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,039
on trash and recycling. If there's no

1581
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:41,280
objection uh I won't remove this from

1582
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,039
the table at this at this point if

1583
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:45,760
that's okay. Thank you. We'll probably

1584
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,240
have someone at the next at the next

1585
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,319
meeting.

1586
01:07:50,319 --> 01:07:53,200
Um, moving to new business and to the

1587
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,000
very patient folks in the back of the

1588
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,240
room that are going to tell us a lot of

1589
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,039
interesting stuff. Um, we are going to

1590
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:03,680
move to the F

1591
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,000
order number 3226

1592
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,200
FY25 audit review or any action relative

1593
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,359
there too.

1594
01:08:11,359 --> 01:08:15,680
We've got Romina Mli and Renee Davis of

1595
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,279
CBZ.

1596
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:19,199
Which one of you wants to start? Good

1597
01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:20,960
evening and thank you for your patience.

1598
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,400
>> Of course. Good evening and thank you

1599
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,199
for having us. I'm Roina Mamelly. I am a

1600
01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:27,679
director with CBiz. Basically that means

1601
01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:29,839
I am the person who's on site conducting

1602
01:08:29,839 --> 01:08:31,440
the audit drafting the financial

1603
01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:33,199
statements and then they go to Renee

1604
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:34,719
Davis who's a managing director with

1605
01:08:34,719 --> 01:08:37,359
CBIZ for her final review, approval,

1606
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:40,640
sign off and issuance. So um I want to

1607
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,400
talk a little bit about our process. So

1608
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,880
we're here tonight to present our annual

1609
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,480
presentation on the financial

1610
01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:48,159
statements. Tonight we're only going to

1611
01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:49,520
talk about the annual comprehensive

1612
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,159
financial report for FY25.

1613
01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:54,159
And what we do is we're typically here

1614
01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:56,239
two times a year. So the first time we

1615
01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:58,000
come out is usually the springtime.

1616
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,359
We're a little delayed this year. We're

1617
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:00,960
actually doing it about now is our

1618
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,480
planning. We go through and we do our planning. We do our risk

1619
01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:06,319
assessments. We document internal

1620
01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:08,480
controls. We look at the town's

1621
01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:10,799
processes and look to see did something

1622
01:09:10,799 --> 01:09:14,239
change. Where can things go wrong? where

1623
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:16,960
is um where are there items where

1624
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,640
something is lacking that something can

1625
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,199
be strengthened and I will tell you that

1626
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:23,440
this year there is for FY25 there is no

1627
01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:25,440
management letter there was no material

1628
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:27,120
weaknesses or significant deficiencies

1629
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,279
in these internal controls and anything

1630
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:31,839
that we find that was not significant

1631
01:09:31,839 --> 01:09:34,400
would have been communicated with with

1632
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,520
um Mike and his finance team.

1633
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,199
So, as we're going through and we're

1634
01:09:39,199 --> 01:09:42,480
designing these um risks of what we're

1635
01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:47,600
going to test, that ba is our basic um

1636
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,679
I'm going to say line of what we're

1637
01:09:49,679 --> 01:09:52,640
going to test. So, we design all of our

1638
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,840
testing, real estate, user charges,

1639
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,000
expenditure testing. We look at

1640
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,120
compliance with laws and regulations and

1641
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,880
that's how we build our audit. So, every

1642
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,360
year there is a little bit of um an

1643
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,280
unpredictability. We're selecting

1644
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,080
different things for testing and I can

1645
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,600
say that the testing that we performed

1646
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,199
in FY25 we found nothing that didn't

1647
01:10:15,199 --> 01:10:17,679
foot didn't tie in was missing a

1648
01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:19,679
signature nothing. So all of our testing

1649
01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:22,159
came back perfect.

1650
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:24,640
Then after the town has year-end numbers

1651
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,400
so once they are ready to close their

1652
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,960
books or close to we come out we do an

1653
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,000
import of the of the trial balance into

1654
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,880
our own software. We as a non-attest

1655
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,800
service, we help prepare the financial

1656
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,360
statements. All of that information

1657
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,040
that's in these financial statements

1658
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,600
does belong to the town. We just help in

1659
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,000
putting that together. The town does

1660
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,159
issue an annual comprehensive financial

1661
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:50,239
report. So that gets submitted to the

1662
01:10:50,239 --> 01:10:54,000
GFOA for a certificate. So the town did

1663
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,520
receive the FY24 certificate in May of

1664
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,840
this year. and we have submitted the

1665
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,120
FY25 report for that same certificate.

1666
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,560
So, we're still waiting to hear back on

1667
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,080
that. Probably be another couple of

1668
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,760
months before those results come back to

1669
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,440
us.

1670
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:11,360
The financial statements themselves are

1671
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,840
kind of set up as three different levels

1672
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,880
of accounting. So, you have we're

1673
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:17,920
actually going to start a little bit in

1674
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,440
the back. I'm glad you guys got your

1675
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:21,600
printed reports. So, thank you Sue for

1676
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,880
putting those out. Um, so in the back of

1677
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,520
the report, actually on if you wanted to

1678
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:28,880
flip, you don't have to, but if you want

1679
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,679
to flip, it's on page 110 to 112 is the

1680
01:11:31,679 --> 01:11:35,360
budget to actual. This is the closest to

1681
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,520
cash basis that you can find. So when

1682
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:38,719
you're talking about your budgets,

1683
01:11:38,719 --> 01:11:39,840
you're looking at where your

1684
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,600
expenditures are, what you've

1685
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,760
appropriated as part of your annual

1686
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,320
budget, what your revenues, how they

1687
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,000
came in, this is where you'd want to

1688
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,000
look. So for FY25,

1689
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,400
the actual general fund revenues came in

1690
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,280
$10 million over what was budgeted. The

1691
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,560
majority of that was in real estate in

1692
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,080
departmental and other and in motor

1693
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,640
vehicle. Um and remember when you're

1694
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,239
putting together your revenue budgets,

1695
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:08,800
they're conservative estimates. So we we

1696
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,120
would expect that to come in higher.

1697
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,199
Your actual expenditures um came in $2.5

1698
01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:17,920
million lower than what you budgeted.

1699
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,760
And at the end of the day, you had a

1700
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,960
$4.6 million increase in your budget to

1701
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,679
actual. Your budget to actual only

1702
01:12:25,679 --> 01:12:28,159
includes your general fund.

1703
01:12:28,159 --> 01:12:30,080
And so when we move up to the next

1704
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,159
level, your fund financial statements,

1705
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:35,199
which start on page 33, those also

1706
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:36,640
include a general fund. But the

1707
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,239
difference is that general fund column

1708
01:12:38,239 --> 01:12:41,520
also includes your stabilization funds.

1709
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,679
So, when we look at the balances that

1710
01:12:43,679 --> 01:12:46,719
are in your general fund on page 33 down

1711
01:12:46,719 --> 01:12:49,520
in your fund balance section, you're

1712
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,040
going to see that there's a commitment

1713
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,880
for continuing appropriations, those are

1714
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,760
articles, for $1.8 million. There's a

1715
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,040
signed fund balance for incumbrances for

1716
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,840
$2.4 million. And then you have an

1717
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,280
unassigned balance of $15.3 million. I

1718
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,199
wanted to point this out because in your

1719
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:10,400
FY24 report, that amount for your

1720
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,320
unassigned was only $849,000

1721
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,040
because of the legal settlement. So, in

1722
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,640
FY25,

1723
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,520
we saw that um insurance money come in.

1724
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,199
We saw the um town issue the $6 million

1725
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:28,159
in long-term bonds. So, that revenue is

1726
01:13:28,159 --> 01:13:30,239
now there supporting that number. So, in

1727
01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:34,239
FY23, it was 18.6 million. it went down

1728
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:37,520
to the 849,000 and now it's back up to

1729
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,360
15.3 million. That 15.3 million also

1730
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,920
includes your stabilization funds. You

1731
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,120
had two new stabilization funds in FY25

1732
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,040
in override special purpose and a

1733
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,120
special education stabilization fund.

1734
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,560
Those totaled about 2.1 million in new

1735
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,520
funds. And in total, your stabilization

1736
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,320
funds totaled 6.5 million, which is all

1737
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,199
encompassed inside of that $15.3

1738
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:06,239
million number. You also had a major

1739
01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:08,400
fund for your town capital projects.

1740
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,159
There are certain criteria that needs to

1741
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:12,800
be met for a major fund to be shown on

1742
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,360
your fund financial statements and that

1743
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,239
fund clearly met that requirement. Um,

1744
01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:19,760
so that's shown there. And then you have

1745
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,120
your non- major governmental funds. The

1746
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,880
good thing about having an annual

1747
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,040
comprehensive financial report is that

1748
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,440
in the back of the of the financial

1749
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:31,600
statements themselves way in the back

1750
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,520
you have combining schedules. So that

1751
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,440
breaks out each of the types of your

1752
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:37,520
special revenue funds, any other capital

1753
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,760
project funds and your permanent funds.

1754
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,320
So you can have a little bit deeper

1755
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,040
detail in um in what makes up those that

1756
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,440
non- major governmental funds column.

1757
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:50,320
Every year we reassess what those major

1758
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,960
funds are and we move them between major

1759
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,320
and non- major based on what those

1760
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,280
assessments come back to. Then if we

1761
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,320
move up another level

1762
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,120
starting um just four pages before that

1763
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,360
on page 29 these are your full acral

1764
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,440
financial statements. So this is where

1765
01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:08,960
it encompasses your governmental

1766
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,719
activities which is made up of all those

1767
01:15:10,719 --> 01:15:11,840
governmental funds. So, your general

1768
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:12,880
funds, special revenue, capital

1769
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,199
projects, permanent funds, um, and then

1770
01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:16,640
your business type activities are your

1771
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,360
enterprise funds, all lumped together.

1772
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,040
Your enterprise funds are shown there,

1773
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,320
and they're also shown on your

1774
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,159
proprietary fund statements. The

1775
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:25,679
proprietary fund statements, just break

1776
01:15:25,679 --> 01:15:28,000
them out into the individual ones where

1777
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,600
they're lumped together on your

1778
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:30,960
statement of net position and statement

1779
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,280
of activities.

1780
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:34,960
Two big things we talk about every year.

1781
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,280
The two big items on here are your OPED

1782
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,480
and your pension. So, two liabilities

1783
01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:43,280
currently being funded. Um, your pension

1784
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:47,600
is at as of I should say um the end of

1785
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:54,080
FY25. The liability was $11.6

1786
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,760
million.

1787
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,280
Did I say that? Do I have that right?

1788
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,280
Yep. Um, the pension plan is 75.2%

1789
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,600
funded. The discount rate hasn't

1790
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,480
changed. It has stayed at 7.125% since

1791
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:09,040
the prior year. and your current year

1792
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,520
investment return was 10.86%

1793
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:12,880
which was a little bit down from the

1794
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,840
year before of 13%. So funding is

1795
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:20,560
scheduled out to um fiscal year 2033.

1796
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,400
Massachusetts law says it has to be

1797
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,960
fully funded by 2040. So you're in line

1798
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,239
with having that funded in time. um

1799
01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:30,400
pension also there's Mass General law

1800
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,719
requires that you're funding this unlike

1801
01:16:32,719 --> 01:16:36,080
OPED with your OPED liability that was

1802
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,360
actually a liability at the end of uh

1803
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:44,159
June 2025 of $176 million that was up

1804
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:46,560
slightly um from the prior year by $6

1805
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,159
million.

1806
01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:51,199
your OPED trust fund, which is reported

1807
01:16:51,199 --> 01:16:53,440
in your fiduciary statements. That's the

1808
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:56,159
money that you vote to set aside to fund

1809
01:16:56,159 --> 01:16:58,880
this um OPED liability in the future.

1810
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,120
That had a balance of $29 million at the

1811
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,679
end of fiscal year 25. That was up from

1812
01:17:03,679 --> 01:17:06,159
25.8 million the year before. The

1813
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:07,920
discount rate slightly changed, went

1814
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,840
from 6.46%

1815
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,440
um or that's the new one, down from

1816
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:14,000
6.47%.

1817
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,960
So, of that um of the amount that's in

1818
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,679
your OPED trust fund, there's two

1819
01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:20,960
different amounts that you keep. You

1820
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,960
maintain a separate one for town that

1821
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:27,040
has 17.8 million of the 28 or 29 million

1822
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,679
and the belt has 11.2 million of that

1823
01:17:29,679 --> 01:17:32,800
invested in there.

1824
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,000
One of the things you're going to notice

1825
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:35,600
in this year's financial statements is

1826
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,280
there was a restatement. And the

1827
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,800
restatement was because in FY25 there

1828
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,800
was a new gazsby that was issued Gazsby

1829
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,640
101 which related to compensated

1830
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,960
absences. So as part of the

1831
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,280
implementation of that gazsby we

1832
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,440
reassessed what that liability would

1833
01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:54,960
have been had it come into play on 7124

1834
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,600
at the beginning of the fiscal year. So

1835
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,400
that change was over materiality for

1836
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,640
both your governmental activities and

1837
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,800
for your business type activities. So in

1838
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,719
total there was a restatement of $4.5

1839
01:18:06,719 --> 01:18:08,960
million to recognize that implementation

1840
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,600
of that Gazsby. There's an emphasis of

1841
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,679
matter paragraph within the audit

1842
01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:16,719
opinion and there's also some um just

1843
01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:19,679
some documents or uh um verbiage within

1844
01:18:19,679 --> 01:18:22,159
the report about what that was for.

1845
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:23,600
Other than that, your debt was about the

1846
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:24,880
same. You had some new debt. You had

1847
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,960
some new um bans that um were issued

1848
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,280
school projects, roadway projects,

1849
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:32,719
various other capital projects

1850
01:18:32,719 --> 01:18:34,719
throughout the town. Um there were some

1851
01:18:34,719 --> 01:18:37,679
golf mowers. Besides that, there wasn't

1852
01:18:37,679 --> 01:18:39,360
too much going on with debt payments

1853
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:43,040
looked okay. Your um budget is actually

1854
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,080
for your debt payments was about 6%. We

1855
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:47,760
like to see that somewhere between 5 and

1856
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,600
10%. So you're right in line with what

1857
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,080
that percentage should be. Um that

1858
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,360
basically means you're keeping up with

1859
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,040
your capital. You're not letting your

1860
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,840
infrastructure fall apart. Um so so

1861
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,040
you're you're right where you have been.

1862
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,120
And then right at the beginning of the

1863
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,040
report is kind of our opinion. That's

1864
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,360
the only the three or four pages that we

1865
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,120
own in this whole report. The rest of it

1866
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,280
all belongs to you. But beyond that,

1867
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:12,880
there's the management discussion and

1868
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,679
analysis. If you just want to get an

1869
01:19:15,679 --> 01:19:17,440
understanding of what happened with the

1870
01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:20,400
town's finances, read that section. It

1871
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,400
talks about what the increases were,

1872
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,320
what the decreases were, why they were

1873
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,239
happening, any special items that

1874
01:19:26,239 --> 01:19:27,760
happened. It has a breakout of your

1875
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,320
capital asset activity, additions,

1876
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,560
disposals. It has the information of

1877
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,320
what's happened to your debt, and it

1878
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:35,840
talks about all the different basis of

1879
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,480
accounting that we just went through.

1880
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:42,320
Does anybody have any questions?

1881
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:43,360
>> Council Bara,

1882
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,760
>> thank you. Uh thank you so much and

1883
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,800
appreciate the succinct explanation on a

1884
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,960
very long report. I have one quick

1885
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,920
question. Um the statistical section

1886
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,239
which is so helpful.

1887
01:19:56,239 --> 01:19:57,840
>> Um

1888
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,640
on page 162 you have the operating

1889
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,760
indicators by function and program. I'm

1890
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,679
curious where you or how you gather that

1891
01:20:07,679 --> 01:20:09,199
information because I see that there's

1892
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:11,440
some in 2024 there's some missing

1893
01:20:11,440 --> 01:20:13,840
figures for a couple of the departments.

1894
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:18,480
So, I'm just curious like how do you how are you getting like the number of

1895
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:22,080
false alarms and the number of

1896
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,719
you know like

1897
01:20:24,719 --> 01:20:26,960
fire hydrants that are in service or out

1898
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:27,840
of service.

1899
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,440
>> So, some of it may come from the town

1900
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:31,199
directly. Some of it comes from maybe an

1901
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:33,440
annual report or some other

1902
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:35,280
documentation we receive during the

1903
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,440
audit. If there's specific numbers, we

1904
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:39,920
can get to, you know, you where they

1905
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,960
came from, but they come from different

1906
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,159
sources depending on what it is.

1907
01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:48,960
>> Okay. Um All right. I think that

1908
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,800
>> miles of public road looks like it

1909
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:51,920
stayed the same,

1910
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:53,600
>> right? Well, that's good. But you never

1911
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,199
we sometimes do get some new streets

1912
01:20:55,199 --> 01:20:57,760
once in a while. Um Okay. Uh I think

1913
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,679
that answers my questions for now. I I

1914
01:20:59,679 --> 01:21:01,520
may follow up with Mike after. Thank

1915
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,600
you.

1916
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:04,640
>> Thank you, President.

1917
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,400
>> Any councelor rounds?

1918
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,560
>> I I just want to There's a lot of great

1919
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,159
information here and thank you for your

1920
01:21:10,159 --> 01:21:13,280
presentation this evening, the concise

1921
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,600
um overview. I just want to make sure

1922
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,679
that we will have opportunities to

1923
01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:20,320
address them for questions when we have

1924
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,560
more time to be able to read through.

1925
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,760
>> Absolutely. Yes. if if you wouldn't mind

1926
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,760
um

1927
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,400
uh if we had questions following this

1928
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,239
meeting if we could follow up with you.

1929
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:33,600
>> Absolutely. We are always available.

1930
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:33,840
Yes.

1931
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,920
>> I know you've always been helpful in the

1932
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,840
various places I've interacted with you

1933
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,280
guys before. So, um I appreciate that.

1934
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:41,679
>> Thank you.

1935
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:43,520
counselor.

1936
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,480
>> Um I just want to point to a couple of

1937
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:48,960
things. You mentioned a $10 million

1938
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,400
revenue surplus or in excess of forecast

1939
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:56,400
revenues that represents about a 6%

1940
01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:00,960
um over predicted. Is that in line with

1941
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,280
where you would want things to be? I

1942
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:07,679
know that um we have to be conservative.

1943
01:22:07,679 --> 01:22:10,080
Uh but were we too conservative? Were we

1944
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,560
just right conservative? Uh where are we

1945
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,560
in comparison with other towns and as

1946
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,239
far as a revenue surplus?

1947
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:19,040
>> Sure. Um, well, for motor vehicle, you

1948
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,400
want to be conservative, right? Because

1949
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:21,679
we just don't know, right? There's no

1950
01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:23,280
sort of guarantee there. If you're

1951
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,120
conservative in your revenue budgets and

1952
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,120
you get you take in more than you

1953
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,280
planned, it drops to free cash. You can

1954
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,360
appropriate that and you can use it. If

1955
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:32,960
you go the other way and you're not

1956
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,560
conservative enough, you don't you have

1957
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,080
a deficit, you're going to have to raise

1958
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,320
that the next year. So, we like to see

1959
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,000
conservative

1960
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,960
Oh, yep. Sure. Um, I'll just repeat that

1961
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,120
quickly. If you're conservative and you

1962
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,120
have a revenue surplus, it drops to free

1963
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,360
cash and you can appropriate that money.

1964
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,199
If you are not conservative enough and

1965
01:22:51,199 --> 01:22:52,719
you have a revenue deficit, you are

1966
01:22:52,719 --> 01:22:54,960
required to raise that in the next

1967
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:56,880
fiscal year. So, it would impact future

1968
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,800
fiscal years. So, we do want to see

1969
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,600
conservative um real estate really you

1970
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,600
are budgeting for that that you're going

1971
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,719
to collect 100%. That is just timing.

1972
01:23:06,719 --> 01:23:09,520
So, if real estate if you saw a deficit

1973
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:10,480
there, you're going to get your money

1974
01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:12,080
for real estate. you're gonna, you know,

1975
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,600
you have means to be able to collect

1976
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,520
that. So, we really want to see

1977
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,639
conservativeness in um investment

1978
01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:20,480
earnings because that can go up or down

1979
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:21,840
depending on how much cash you have,

1980
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,679
depending on the markets and and so

1981
01:23:23,679 --> 01:23:26,000
forth. U motor vehicle, I mentioned you

1982
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,840
want to be conservative, permits, things

1983
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,159
like that. So, there's nothing there

1984
01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:31,760
that looked out of line. I think

1985
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,520
investment earnings have been very very

1986
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,280
strong. Motor vehicle collections have

1987
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,120
continued to be very, very strong. So,

1988
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:38,960
we are seeing surpluses in most

1989
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,000
communities.

1990
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,760
>> Thank you. Thank you. The other thing I

1991
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,600
wanted to point out, you mentioned $2.5

1992
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,480
million in operational surplus, which

1993
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:49,040
represents about a 1.4%

1994
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,960
operational surplus over what was

1995
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,639
budgeted. Um, I always, you know, when I

1996
01:23:54,639 --> 01:23:56,880
was a town administrator, I would always

1997
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,600
try to look for free cash to be

1998
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,000
generated from revenue surplus as well

1999
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,560
as operational surplus. And I'd try to

2000
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,400
get to a a 5050 situation. Here, we're

2001
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,080
not getting that. And I think it's

2002
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,719
because we budget we're budgeting tight.

2003
01:24:12,719 --> 01:24:16,880
But um is this 1.4 operational

2004
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,040
percent operational surplus in line with

2005
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:20,159
what you're seeing with other

2006
01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:22,000
communities?

2007
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,080
>> I'll answer that. There's differences.

2008
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,159
Some communities are very very tight

2009
01:24:26,159 --> 01:24:27,840
budgets and you have almost nothing

2010
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,760
turned back. Those departments needed

2011
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,280
that much money to run the operations.

2012
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,840
You'll they use it sort of as a means to

2013
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,320
generate free cash. they expect to turn

2014
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,080
back money

2015
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,840
education you don't really see much turn

2016
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:46,800
back in education um but it's this money

2017
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,840
generally comes from the town side

2018
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,600
because the schools need to keep it or

2019
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,440
we'll find something to do within that

2020
01:24:55,440 --> 01:24:57,440
fiscal year so that they don't

2021
01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:01,760
generational circle that's fine but but

2022
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,120
um you know I I I think that this shows

2023
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,520
that there's good management here of on

2024
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,040
the operational side.

2025
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:10,480
>> We want to make sure that you're that

2026
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:12,080
you have controls in place that you're

2027
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,239
not overspending. That what you voted

2028
01:25:14,239 --> 01:25:16,080
for the budget is what's in your general

2029
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,760
ledger and that there is a way to

2030
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,920
prevent people from overspending at the

2031
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:20,960
end of the year. You know what happens

2032
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,880
at the end of the fiscal year. It can

2033
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,400
get very very tight. You may have to

2034
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:28,400
make some adjustments and transfers. We check to make sure that you're voting

2035
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,159
everything. What was voted is in the

2036
01:25:30,159 --> 01:25:32,560
reports and you're not overspending. But

2037
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,400
as far as the right amount of money to

2038
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,719
turn back, it's varies from community to

2039
01:25:36,719 --> 01:25:38,239
community.

2040
01:25:38,239 --> 01:25:41,199
>> My last thing is a a little bit of an

2041
01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:47,360
opportunity for you guys to basically describe all the work you

2042
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,760
do a little bit more than you do. We

2043
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,960
come in, you know, we we see you for

2044
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,800
this half an hour. Um what's behind this

2045
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,199
half an hour? How how often are you here

2046
01:25:59,199 --> 01:26:00,800
when you're doing the audit? How many

2047
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,800
personnel are here? How many how many

2048
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:03,920
weeks are involved in that?

2049
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,360
>> I will say that's all her that's all

2050
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:06,000
her.

2051
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:06,480
>> Yeah, [laughter]

2052
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:08,159
>> my job is to review and to sign. So,

2053
01:26:08,159 --> 01:26:09,360
Roina is going to give you the details

2054
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:09,920
on that.

2055
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,080
>> So, usually when we're here for our

2056
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:13,600
planning, it's a week that we have

2057
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,880
scheduled. Um that's just to be like

2058
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,040
working here whether we're here for

2059
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,719
three or four days or just a couple of

2060
01:26:20,719 --> 01:26:24,400
days. Um before we even come out, we

2061
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,199
have planning that we need to do. We

2062
01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:30,080
complete on our end. Um we start to work

2063
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,040
on our risk assessment. Um we start to

2064
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,760
look at what what single audits need to

2065
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,800
be audited and uh have there have been

2066
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:40,719
any changes in personnel. Are there any

2067
01:26:40,719 --> 01:26:42,960
changes in the processes? Then we come

2068
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,040
in and we start planning. So we start

2069
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,280
doing our testing. We start saying what

2070
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:48,800
can we look at now? Like Renee had said,

2071
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,159
we look at your budget. That's one thing

2072
01:26:50,159 --> 01:26:53,280
we can do prior to the year end because

2073
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,080
you voted it a year before. So we can

2074
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,159
look at it. We can see where it's at. We

2075
01:26:58,159 --> 01:27:00,800
can look to see are there any lines that

2076
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,800
right now look, you know, like they're

2077
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,400
going to be overexpended. You have a

2078
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,080
wonderful finance team. They take care

2079
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,560
of it all. It's that's not, you know, a

2080
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,040
question. But when we're going through,

2081
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:12,880
we just need to do our due diligence,

2082
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,719
right? We are opining on this. We have

2083
01:27:14,719 --> 01:27:16,320
to have a sense of comfort. We're not

2084
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,239
testing 100% of transactions. We're

2085
01:27:18,239 --> 01:27:20,400
looking at the risks. So when we're here

2086
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,560
in the spring, it's usually starting our

2087
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,480
transaction testing, looking at journal

2088
01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:26,239
entries, looking at the detailed general

2089
01:27:26,239 --> 01:27:28,480
ledger, asking questions. Are you

2090
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:30,880
reconciled with cash? Did you reconcile

2091
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,400
it yesterday because you knew we were

2092
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,000
coming out or have you been reconciling

2093
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,320
it on a monthly basis? So these are the

2094
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,880
things that help us plan our plan the

2095
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,400
audit.

2096
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,400
Then after when the town's close to

2097
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,719
closing, which is typically October, we

2098
01:27:44,719 --> 01:27:46,159
come back out and that's when we take

2099
01:27:46,159 --> 01:27:47,920
the deep dive, roll up our sleeves,

2100
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,280
start looking at the support, start

2101
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,840
looking at the trial balance. What what

2102
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,000
are these numbers? Are we getting the

2103
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:55,600
proper support? We're looking at the

2104
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,760
detailed general ledger. Are there any

2105
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,600
journal entries that were recorded to

2106
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,080
balance, to reconcile, to fix, to

2107
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,360
correct? Um, we have a separate data

2108
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,280
service center that runs reports,

2109
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,600
analytical reports for us that helps us

2110
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,560
to identify those. We're, like I said,

2111
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,440
we're we're making selections that are

2112
01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:16,960
unpredictability

2113
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:18,800
so that way there's surprises in what

2114
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,800
we're selecting. But when we're out

2115
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,560
here, we spend quite a bit of time.

2116
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:23,920
We're we're sifting through bank

2117
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:25,199
statements. We're sifting through

2118
01:28:25,199 --> 01:28:28,159
transactions. Um, we're we're looking at

2119
01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:30,639
the census data testing that came from

2120
01:28:30,639 --> 01:28:32,800
the actuary and testing those files to

2121
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,120
make sure that that information has been

2122
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,600
accurately reported. Uh, we're visiting

2123
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,239
the retirement system to to put together

2124
01:28:40,239 --> 01:28:41,840
that report. So, we're testing the

2125
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,920
census data there. We're testing against

2126
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,840
the fair value of investments. We're

2127
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,159
sending confirmations. So, there is a

2128
01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:50,639
lot that goes into these numbers. Can

2129
01:28:50,639 --> 01:28:52,400
tell you we know them inside out and

2130
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,719
backwards by the time we're done. And we

2131
01:28:54,719 --> 01:28:57,120
have a very very good comfort level when

2132
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,199
we put together this report. Any

2133
01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:02,159
questions that we have, Mike, Mark,

2134
01:29:02,159 --> 01:29:04,639
Christina, they've been great. We ask

2135
01:29:04,639 --> 01:29:06,000
for something, they get it to us right

2136
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,320
away. I mean, you do have a very strong,

2137
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,280
wonderful finance team here. Um, and

2138
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:12,960
then after we leave the field, we're

2139
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,560
just compiling. So, sometimes we're

2140
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,080
waiting for some information, whether it

2141
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,800
be an OPED valuation or just some odds

2142
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,440
and ends. And that's when we're while

2143
01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:22,960
we're here, we're putting together this

2144
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,120
report. But then at the end we're

2145
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,520
looking at analytics. What were the

2146
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,080
expectations? What did we think was

2147
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,639
going to happen during our planning and

2148
01:29:32,639 --> 01:29:34,719
did that happen? Were there any

2149
01:29:34,719 --> 01:29:37,840
surprises? Um we send legal confirms.

2150
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,440
Last year we learned about the legal se

2151
01:29:39,440 --> 01:29:40,880
settlement from Mike which had to go

2152
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,880
into the FY24 financial statements

2153
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,760
because it happened in September. Um so

2154
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,239
that's kind of what we do in the in on

2155
01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:50,159
the side. We're testing single audit and

2156
01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:51,840
we're, you know, so there's a lot that

2157
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,600
goes into it. Even if you only see us

2158
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,840
here a few weeks out of the year,

2159
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,320
there's always someone working, someone

2160
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,719
getting this closer to being issued.

2161
01:30:00,719 --> 01:30:02,800
>> Thank you for for taking the time to

2162
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,560
explain that. I think it's important for

2163
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,880
the public to know

2164
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,480
um that this is not prefuncter what you

2165
01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:14,960
do that this is a deep dive and a very

2166
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:16,719
analytical

2167
01:30:16,719 --> 01:30:20,960
um review of of the town's financial

2168
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,840
systems and its performance.

2169
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,920
And that should be reassuring to the

2170
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,719
public because you are independent. You

2171
01:30:28,719 --> 01:30:31,199
uh you know you are not employees of the

2172
01:30:31,199 --> 01:30:33,040
town of Bantry. you're looking

2173
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,840
independently and your professional

2174
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:40,080
reputation and uh is tied to what you

2175
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,159
report. So you would jeopardize your

2176
01:30:42,159 --> 01:30:45,040
career if you've sugarcoated anything in

2177
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:50,239
here. Um and this is just one part. Then

2178
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:51,760
there's a department of revenue who

2179
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,080
looks at what we do as well. And then

2180
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:56,560
there are the internal controls that we

2181
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,639
put on ourselves.

2182
01:30:58,639 --> 01:31:01,840
So it's important. I I think I really

2183
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:07,520
appreciate you taking the time to just give everyone an idea of of the

2184
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,679
thoroughess of of your review. I

2185
01:31:09,679 --> 01:31:11,600
appreciate it. Are there any other

2186
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,639
questions from the council? Well, thank

2187
01:31:14,639 --> 01:31:16,719
you very much for your report. I'm sure

2188
01:31:16,719 --> 01:31:18,960
that there will be followup. Um and

2189
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,360
thank you for for the concise way in

2190
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:22,560
which you explained it.

2191
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,000
>> Of course. Thank you very much.

2192
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:24,719
Appreciate it.

2193
01:31:24,719 --> 01:31:29,830
>> Thank you.

2194
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:31,440
Okay,

2195
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:34,080
I believe we are now moving to new

2196
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:35,760
business.

2197
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:38,320
Um,

2198
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:41,520
there's a call, there's a placeholder

2199
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,400
for October 6, 2026. No action required

2200
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,280
this evening. [snorts] Um, are we

2201
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,280
referring these to committees or we're

2202
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:50,239
just

2203
01:31:50,239 --> 01:31:50,960
>> reading them in?

2204
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,400
>> Just to let you just to let you know,

2205
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,560
it'll be voted next meeting.

2206
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:59,440
>> So, we'll have a call to the election at our next meeting. Uh, our next

2207
01:31:59,440 --> 01:32:02,800
meeting is scheduled um for Tuesday,

2208
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:07,040
October 6, 2026 at 7:30 p.m. Thank you

2209
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,440
to Bcam for televising tonight. Bill

2210
01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:12,480
Nem, Jerry Kak, and Dave Maybrook. Uh,

2211
01:32:12,480 --> 01:32:14,320
at this point, I will entertain a motion

2212
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:15,120
to adjurnn.

2213
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:16,480
>> Motion to adjurnn.

2214
01:32:16,480 --> 01:32:17,199
>> Second.

2215
01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:18,880
>> Motion's been made and seconded. All

2216
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,400
those in favor? I,

2217
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,440
>> it's a unanimous good night.